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Title: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 10:26:00 AM
poker faced pretenders, casino cool contenders
grab the chips and put the booty in the bag...

odds will be available shortly


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: TightEnd on May 19, 2005, 10:54:14 AM
poker faced pretenders, casino cool contenders
grab the chips and put the booty in the bag...

odds will be available shortly

have you been drinking?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 11:11:59 AM
I wish...


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 11:55:38 AM
Whoever compiled these odds has been drinking. Score so far ariston 3 bluesquare 0. See you have trimmed isabelle and bengt accordingly but you seem to have made a rick on a couple of the other matches.
Todays selections:
Julian Thew 4/6 (bit skinny but this ones a banker)
Isabelle 4/6(again skinny but I still think she will win the event so have to follow her here )
John Kabbaj 11/10 (odds against? I know Mickeys in form but cannot refuse these odds)
Pascal evs (pascals style of play will beat roys)
Dave C evs (noah can play but to have dave c as the outsider makes no sense)
Burley Johns 5/6 (he will grind him down and get through)
I wouldve included chubbs but you have put him in at 4/6 and I dont think thats value even though I believe he will win.
Remember folks these are the oppinions of a lunatic and anyone getting there fingers burnt by following these is just as crazy as ironside. ;D


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 12:09:08 PM
Good luck.  Lets see what happens. We have two way action on some of these players now, so someone out there disagrees with you :-)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 12:16:21 PM

I reckon we're good for at least a couple of goals against Ariston this round.  Let the games commence  :)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 12:18:33 PM
Have you checked out Pascal's headsup record Russ?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 12:26:15 PM
Have you played roy?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 12:31:46 PM
Id better elaborate before someone thinks I am slating roy. His style of play suits a certain type of game/opponent. Pascals game is not the sort that I think roy can cope with (remember we are talking oppinions). I think roy wouldve been much better facing a lot of different people in this round and this is a potential banana skin for him. Shall we forget yesterdays 3-0 scoreline and keep score from today until sunday (I go to New Orleans monday so no action from me after then). Loser gives say 50 to the truth charity? ? ?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 12:47:07 PM
we're already giving a substantial amount to poker4charity this week so lets keep this sporting, but how about we play heads up for 50 to charity some time (although not at a grosvenor event cos I'm barred from playing there) in the near future?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 12:48:26 PM
deal


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: pkrbt on May 19, 2005, 12:48:37 PM
Best plays today imo

Martin Cedercrantz: For me maybe the fav to win the whole thing. even money against Rozz is...v good
Peter Eichard : Sorry Ariston, odds is totally out of line here, peter has game.
El Blondie: Noah is ok, but Dave shoul absolutely be  fav here.
ANd Id be betting mr Thew and mr Larsson aswell, prices are low but probably not low enough.



Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 12:50:48 PM
I know peter is a great player (and one of your pals bengt) but I believe isa will win this event. Whoever wins your 3rd round match will be a very short fav (imo) for the event. Cant wait to see what happens when he tries to bully/run over her.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 12:53:57 PM
Insidentally I will not be backing in the 3rd round if you and isa get through as it is just too close to call. Any other price but 5/6 the pair may get me interested though.  Martin to win the whole thing? I must admit I hadnt looked at him as a possible winner but your oppinion is definately valued and I will now have a real close look at him.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: pkrbt on May 19, 2005, 12:58:03 PM
Whats the maximum bet anyone?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 01:02:13 PM
200 quid im afraid


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 01:02:59 PM
which is a 100% improvement on the max stake inthe first round :-)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: pkrbt on May 19, 2005, 01:04:49 PM
Couldnt deposit anyway for some stupid reason that my creditcard was expired. Is it already 2006?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 01:05:27 PM
And thats only because everyone backed winners yesterday and methinks they need us all to gamble to level the book.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 01:06:38 PM
Pkrbt if you are who I think you are email me and I will sort your bets out if you need me too.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: pkrbt on May 19, 2005, 01:12:17 PM
wow even money at Kabbaj too. This is like christmas  :P


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 01:21:36 PM
Thought you would have spotted kabbaj straight away. clear stand out value. A 3/1 double on kab and colclough looks nice.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: The Camel on May 19, 2005, 01:58:34 PM
You've all missed the biggest value bet of all.

5/6 Keiner to beat Jac.

Lump 0n.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 02:09:51 PM
somebody beat you to it...


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 02:29:45 PM
ok guys i am ready to supply you info stright from the horses mouth (or tikays phone) not sure what time he will be arriving or what time it starts but if anyone gets any ifo before me be sure to let us know


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: TightEnd on May 19, 2005, 02:36:10 PM
somebody beat you to it...
:P ::) ;D

Thank you, I hope Messrs Camel and Ariston!


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: londonpokergirl on May 19, 2005, 02:37:27 PM
Isas got a very tough match today, Peter Eichart is the Swedish blond guy who I was sat next to for most of day 2 in Deauville, a complete gentleman and superb player.  Gonna be a close one. Would like to see Isa win though :)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Rolandinho05 on May 19, 2005, 03:15:55 PM
. I have backed Sonnert, Thew, Cedercrantz, Eichardt, perrault, kabbaaj and Colclough and  Ariston if Bengt and Isabelle get thru u can have 10-11 on Isabelle all day and all night long? :) (so to speak)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: pkrbt on May 19, 2005, 03:17:12 PM
haha, blonde but bald ;)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Rolandinho05 on May 19, 2005, 03:24:28 PM
i cant belive the giant went out, its like when Tyson lost to buster Douglas


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 03:27:58 PM
any updates anyone?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Rolandinho05 on May 19, 2005, 03:28:42 PM
Pkrbt has agreed to do live updates. Thank you Pkbrt.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: sixpac on May 19, 2005, 03:29:54 PM
You've all missed the biggest value bet of all.

5/6 Keiner to beat Jac.

Lump 0n.

If I was to offer you 6/5 on a moron with a volcabuary of 2 words (all-in), against any player in the world in a one/off match.

Would you take this bet.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: The Camel on May 19, 2005, 03:33:37 PM
6/5 no.

But if you were to offer 2/1 you've got a bet.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 03:36:07 PM
any updates anyone?

nothing from tikay yet but if i hear anything you guys will be first too know


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 03:39:20 PM

Lost the scary picture finally i see!


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 03:45:08 PM
on the pictures front, can you help me sort mine out ironside?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 03:47:31 PM

I've got a really good one of you making the most of your looks.

The wolf mask is quality   ;)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 03:47:53 PM
Pkrbt- U get my email? I have stood all your bets as per email. This ok?
ariston


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: The Camel on May 19, 2005, 03:48:19 PM

Lost the scary picture finally i see!

Does anyone actually work at Blue Square these days or just surf poker websites?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 03:51:15 PM
I juggle


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 03:51:55 PM
News from the arena pascal beats roy the boy. Ariston 4 bluesquare 0


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Rolandinho05 on May 19, 2005, 03:56:01 PM
had a small one on pascal but was advised to save my biggie for cedercrantz. Dont let me down!


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 03:56:13 PM
on the pictures front, can you help me sort mine out ironside?

i'll put yours on web as soon as i win this stt on stars


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: hotdog on May 19, 2005, 03:58:41 PM
wernick has beaten kajbb come on the wernick he is goint to win.how can they put kjabb evens against this man he is on fire.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 04:00:31 PM
Damn ariston 4 bluesquare 1. Unlucky kab


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 04:02:35 PM
lol, we had Kabbaj at 11/10 but had to chop when everyone came in for it. Knew Mickey wouldn't let us down...


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 04:22:20 PM
and i thought i was a slapp head look at those 2 above me


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 04:24:58 PM

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 04:30:45 PM
bad news folks tikay wont be able to send me live updates v his mobile as he left it in the uk

so guess you guys are gonna have to pool your resources and try and keep us all informed


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 04:32:30 PM

I hear Colcough has won.....


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 19, 2005, 04:46:06 PM
bald is the new blonde lol


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: TightEnd on May 19, 2005, 04:58:51 PM
Through...Simon Trumper and Gryko

Ross Boatman was down to 2000 Vs Pkrbt's man Cedercrantz but has doubled through to 4000


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Surprise on May 19, 2005, 05:28:54 PM
Any news from Isa ?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: womble on May 19, 2005, 05:30:26 PM
OK

Up to date results for all those who are interested

Puras v DONEV
PERRAULT v Brindley
PEARCE v Larsson
Ashamn v TRUMPER
GUNARRSON v Hersleth
Kabbaj v WERNICK
COLCLOUGH V Boaken
Deck v GRYKO
SILVA v Simcescu

Players in BOLD are the winners (obviously)

Good Luck to the Blackpool home team players - Cuddles Nowab, Grumpy John and the lovely Isabelle




Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 05:30:39 PM
As far as I know she's playing tomorrow but then again the times I had for todays games turned out to be wrong.....


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 05:34:09 PM
OK

Up to date results for all those who are interested

Puras v DONEV
PERRAULT v Brindley
PEARCE v Larsson
Ashamn v TRUMPER
GUNARRSON v Hersleth
Kabbaj v WERNICK
COLCLOUGH V Boaken
Deck v GRYKO
SILVA v Simcescu

Players in BOLD are the winners (obviously)

Good Luck to the Blackpool home team players - Cuddles Nowab, Grumpy John and the lovely Isabelle




cheers womble

couple of corrections the ones in CAPS are winners not bold slight diffence


never mind my nit picking i have a pic of you from blackpool if you want to put it in your profile let me know


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 05:38:05 PM

Was that a couple of corrections or just one?

 ;)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 05:39:05 PM

Was that a couple of corrections or just one?

 ;)

i never said i could count

but i can still kick your butt on or off the table


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 05:45:48 PM

ok ok, I don't want a festival stalker ready to attack me for an unpaid 50p wager and forum ribbing! lol

Perhaps we'll have a game when jon plays ariston and then let the winners play off like the stars 4-person heads up jobbies?



Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 05:50:43 PM

ok ok, I don't want a festival stalker ready to attack me for an unpaid 50p wager and forum ribbing! lol

Perhaps we'll have a game when jon plays ariston and then let the winners play off like the stars 4-person heads up jobbies?



you do know that all bets have a 10% per day compound intrest charge added to them


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: The Camel on May 19, 2005, 05:52:26 PM
According to the WHU website all second round matches are played today.

But whether that's correct or not is anyones guess.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 05:54:34 PM
keith you not playing in it this year?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Rolandinho05 on May 19, 2005, 05:58:59 PM
any update on cedercrantz?anyone...


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Jamier-Host on May 19, 2005, 06:00:01 PM
Then again they also have round 3 at 3.30pm on Friday followed by round 4 at 5.30pm.......



Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: The Camel on May 19, 2005, 06:00:24 PM
Had some important stuff to do at home.

Good event, shame I had to miss it.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: le plonquer on May 19, 2005, 06:08:26 PM
Good pass.Party Poker paying money to sponsor the event plus the tv money yet nothing added to the prize fund.As long as players keep supporting these events in search of ego boosting results and tv appearences it will not alone remain the same but get gradually worse as organisers realise that they can make huge money from poker players egoes.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: The Camel on May 19, 2005, 06:19:12 PM
Good pass.Party Poker paying money to sponsor the event plus the tv money yet nothing added to the prize fund.As long as players keep supporting these events in search of ego boosting results and tv appearences it will not alone remain the same but get gradually worse as organisers realise that they can make huge money from poker players egoes.

On the whole you are right.

But this event has an excellent structure and is well organised.

I will definitely not play one of the crap shoot single table satellites (poker million, BPO etc) unless I win a seat or get put in.

The "sponsors" should add money to the prize pool.

At the moment Barry Hearn is getting richer from televised poker tournaments and giving precisely zero back to the players.



Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Rolandinho05 on May 19, 2005, 06:59:01 PM
is the boatman/martin c match still going on? it seems to be going on for an age...

and good luck to Julian Thew


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Junior Senior on May 19, 2005, 07:06:45 PM
well said Keith!
I believe poker should become more like golf and motor racing where the players compete for sponsors money rather than there own as the sponsors are deriving great benefits from players winning the tournaments associated to their names but they actually contribute very little to.  That would mean setting up rankings and regulating which players play in which events accoring to status and rankings but the game needs it.
Greg


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 07:10:30 PM
All matches are being played today I think. Isabelle was out barring a jack on the river but guess what the river was? She now has the chip lead in what is turning out to be a great match.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 07:11:48 PM
Oh and by the way ariston5 (thanks dave c) bluesquare 1


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Junior Senior on May 19, 2005, 07:14:26 PM
Are you in Barca Russ? - or just well informed?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 19, 2005, 07:15:59 PM
If players were to compete for sponsors money, and not risk any of their own it would take a lot of the edge /excitement away from the game IMHO.
I believe it would lead to the same faces week in week out playing in comps, and how would new faces break into the "Elite" at least the way things stand at the moment, if you can afford a ticket, you are in the raffle.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Junior Senior on May 19, 2005, 07:20:37 PM
I do agree with that Kev but there needs to be a balance.  The sponsors at the moment are piggy-backing the game and benefiting without much input.  Alright - they provide the odd trophy, t-shirts, some chips and a few flyers but is that really enough to warrant being the main 'sponsor' of an event? - they should at least match 50% of the prize pool or something!!


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 07:21:04 PM
I am having the week completely off junior. I will not be picking up a card or playing online before new orleans next week. I do have my sources in Barcelona watching closely though.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 19, 2005, 07:26:30 PM
Surely the sponsors dont just turn up on the off chance that they may be allowed in.... they must have to pay for the privilige of displaying their merchandise and company in a casino, so therefore perhaps it is the casino's themselves that should be adding to the prize funds, as they will be making on the side action and house games and restuarant takings that must surely rise during festival weeks.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Junior Senior on May 19, 2005, 07:30:06 PM
another very good point Kev.  I am starting to think your not as dumb as everyone tells me you are  ;) :)

Either way - the sponsors and / or casinos need to start adding the value or people will go elsewhere.  There are so many comps to play in these days people will start to pick and chose and value will be a big consideration!


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 19, 2005, 07:31:19 PM
Shhhhh  dont tell people that im not dumb, i might lose my edge ;)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 07:50:01 PM
Bengts out- unlucky mate. Isabelle is through- yipee (miniwave from me). ariston 6 bluesquare 1.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Ironside on May 19, 2005, 07:54:52 PM
the "sponsors" are sponsoring teh tv compnay not the tourny itself thats where the problem lies,


the tv companys should be adding the money to the event, but they know as much as we know that poker needs the tv cameras there to add a little bit of interigity to poker to allow it to become more mainstream,


if you look at it this way monday night football in the uk is called FORD monday night football, FORD give sky money so that sky can afford to give the FA monday to show the matches,

pokersite x gives tv compnay y money so it can afford to put poker on tv, tv compnay y should be giving the poker prize pool a boost but they aren't.

this also leaves open for another sponor to come in and actaully sponsor the poker, so we could have the "martell british open" on skys "friday late partypoker.com night


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AdamM on May 19, 2005, 08:06:08 PM
anyone know where there is a summary of results and draws so far in the tourney?

I've got a bit behind and can't work out who's doing what


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: le plonquer on May 19, 2005, 08:25:18 PM
pokerineurope.com


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 19, 2005, 08:37:26 PM
Burnley John AND Simon "the edge" Nowab both through :)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 19, 2005, 08:44:23 PM
ariston 7 bluesquare 1 (kabb u have let me down for a good few 4flds and a 5fold- I will accept a pint as compensation)


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Yogi-Bear on May 19, 2005, 08:56:58 PM
AS well as the rise in takings and side games etc, so does the cost of staff rise. Overtime, extra staff, their hotels, travel, advertising, etc. It's not all a one way street of money coming in. There are definately extra costs involved

Altho I do agree with y'all that someone somewhere should be putting money into comps apart from just the players.

Perhaps I will one day.

HEHEHE

Yogi


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ifm on May 19, 2005, 09:39:15 PM
A casino can only gain EXTRA money here Yogi, ok thay have the extra costs as you say but they will have these for a normal festival.
Casino's win from the buyin fee, food, drink, and any gambling wins.
TV and sponsors only add to this profit.
Ian


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Rolandinho05 on May 19, 2005, 11:33:24 PM
did Julian Thew win any1?


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: Dubai on May 20, 2005, 12:50:30 AM
No he lost a 4 hour match Roland.


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: ariston on May 20, 2005, 01:40:45 AM
nooooooo. bluesquare wriggle out of an accumulator and gain another point. ariston 7 blsq 2


Title: Re: Barcelona World Heads Up - Thursday
Post by: AlrightJack on May 20, 2005, 09:32:51 AM
funnily enough we were with you on the isabelle and falconer matches, so not too fussed about those two goals against us ;-)