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Title: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2008, 11:33:26 AM
£1000+60 is more than my bankroll currently permits me to lay out on one tournament, but I do feel that the slow structure and deep starting stack is taylor-made for a grinder like me, and it is looking as though the prizepool will be huge, hence this proposition.

I do have some decent NLH form in £300/£500 events winning a £300+1R in Gala Nottm. a couple of years ago and a couple of final tables in the Walsall £300, but as far as live poker goes I have mainly just played in the DTD £300 over the past year without managing to cash, so obviously I'm well overdue. :)

What I am proposing is selling six 10% slices for £106 on a 70%/30% split of any profit in the staker's favour.

Hopefully there will be enough interest or any monies will be returned.

Flame away  ;hide;


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2008, 11:42:57 AM
Hi Ralph,

I'd like 10% please, if you don't mind.

I can give you the Cash next week, at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/), on Friday or Saturday, if that's OK with you.

I can't play the Event as I am committed to do some stuff on both Thursday & Sunday, so I'd love to have some interest in this amazing Tourney.

Oh, I've not forgotten I owe you a reply to your PM - sorry, I'll try & do it today.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: RED-DOG on November 28, 2008, 01:11:05 PM
10% for me please Ralph.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: gatso on November 28, 2008, 01:49:11 PM


What I am proposing is selling six 10% slices for £106 on a 70%/30% split of any profit in the staker's favour.



don't know if I'm reading this right but are you saying you're going to pay 40% of the buyin yourself yet you're giving away 70% of the profit?


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: turny on November 28, 2008, 02:11:20 PM
 ;booder;


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: AndrewT on November 28, 2008, 02:31:59 PM
Hi Ralph

If buying a slice of you at 10% means getting only 70% of the profit that slice generates, then you're actually only selling 7% slices for £106, meaning you're selling at 1.42 (I think - someone can check my maths and correct if I'm wrong)

Also, could you clarify if the money returned to stakers is based on profit or winnings - ie if you cash for £2000, does the staker get 70% of 10% of £2000 or 70% of 10% of £940 (the profit). I assume the former and that you actually meant winnings, rather than profit, as that is more standard when buying slices, as opposed to staking someone fully (putting up 100% of the buyin).

Maybe we need some sort of standard template post for staking requests, as each one is worded differently and it takes a bit of working out what the deal is with each one.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: turny on November 28, 2008, 03:01:42 PM
Hi Ralph

If buying a slice of you at 10% means getting only 70% of the profit that slice generates, then you're actually only selling 7% slices for £106, meaning you're selling at 1.42 (I think - someone can check my maths and correct if I'm wrong)

Also, could you clarify if the money returned to stakers is based on profit or winnings - ie if you cash for £2000, does the staker get 70% of 10% of £2000 or 70% of 10% of £940 (the profit). I assume the former and that you actually meant winnings, rather than profit, as that is more standard when buying slices, as opposed to staking someone fully (putting up 100% of the buyin).

Maybe we need some sort of standard template post for staking requests, as each one is worded differently and it takes a bit of working out what the deal is with each one.

great idea andrew


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Compo on November 28, 2008, 03:12:07 PM
10% if you play in a Spurs shirt.



























only joking. I'll take 10% if you trust me until i see you or i can arrange a transfer if you prefer.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2008, 03:50:28 PM

Ralph,

A somewhat dejected Thewy just called me, fresh from a very early exit at The Vic.

He'd heard about this Thread while at The Vic (someone's i-Phone?) , but can't get Online right now, so will you save a bit for him, please? - he'll be Online as soon as he can to confirm.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: LeKnave on November 28, 2008, 04:16:24 PM


What I am proposing is selling six 10% slices for £106 on a 70%/30% split of any profit in the staker's favour.



don't know if I'm reading this right but are you saying you're going to pay 40% of the buyin yourself yet you're giving away 70% of the profit?

he gets 30% then another 40% of the 70%. as in theory he is one of the stakers.

gl with it Ralph.  Will be down for the 300 on friday i think, see you there.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2008, 06:38:09 PM
Hi Ralph

If buying a slice of you at 10% means getting only 70% of the profit that slice generates, then you're actually only selling 7% slices for £106, meaning you're selling at 1.42 (I think - someone can check my maths and correct if I'm wrong)

Also, could you clarify if the money returned to stakers is based on profit or winnings - ie if you cash for £2000, does the staker get 70% of 10% of £2000 or 70% of 10% of £940 (the profit). I assume the former and that you actually meant winnings, rather than profit, as that is more standard when buying slices, as opposed to staking someone fully (putting up 100% of the buyin).

Maybe we need some sort of standard template post for staking requests, as each one is worded differently and it takes a bit of working out what the deal is with each one.

Sorry for any ambiguity but I've not done this before.

If I were to cash for £10K a 10%(£106) staker would receive £700 back.

45% has been taken up to now, so 15% still up for grabs.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: gatso on November 28, 2008, 07:48:54 PM
Hi Ralph

If buying a slice of you at 10% means getting only 70% of the profit that slice generates, then you're actually only selling 7% slices for £106, meaning you're selling at 1.42 (I think - someone can check my maths and correct if I'm wrong)

Also, could you clarify if the money returned to stakers is based on profit or winnings - ie if you cash for £2000, does the staker get 70% of 10% of £2000 or 70% of 10% of £940 (the profit). I assume the former and that you actually meant winnings, rather than profit, as that is more standard when buying slices, as opposed to staking someone fully (putting up 100% of the buyin).

Maybe we need some sort of standard template post for staking requests, as each one is worded differently and it takes a bit of working out what the deal is with each one.

Sorry for any ambiguity but I've not done this before.

If I were to cash for £10K a 10%(£106) staker would receive £700 back.

45% has been taken up to now, so 15% still up for grabs.

cheers ralph. I actually thought you were ripping yourself off the way I read the op, clearer now. good luck with this


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: StuartHopkin on November 29, 2008, 09:54:02 AM
Ill take the last 15% ralph out my adt winnings  ;)


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2008, 10:14:20 AM
Thanks guys, that's me sold out then if Thewy takes the 10% that I have reserved for him.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: julian on November 29, 2008, 10:18:17 PM
hey ralph,
yeah i'll take 10 if ur happy to put it on the slate!


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: snoopy1239 on November 30, 2008, 02:41:27 AM
Good luck, Ralph. Hope you do well.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Royal Flush on November 30, 2008, 05:42:00 AM
It's all getting confusing now!

If there is a chunk left still can i take 10% plz!


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2008, 10:16:48 AM
Thanks to all of the stakers both on the thread and by PM and thanks for the good luck wishes too.

I will put up a "blow by blow" account of the tourney hopefully much later ;)


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Colchester Kev on November 30, 2008, 10:25:49 AM
GL Ralphy baby.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Robert HM on November 30, 2008, 01:20:04 PM
GL Ralphy baby.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Bigfella on December 02, 2008, 07:57:50 PM
gl Ralph


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: celtic on December 02, 2008, 09:18:15 PM
gl Ralph


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: kinboshi on December 02, 2008, 09:43:39 PM


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: redsimon on December 03, 2008, 02:37:41 PM
Gl Ralph, wouldve had 10% if Id seen this earlier


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2008, 01:49:06 AM
I'm quite a bit gutted really after putting in a solid shift of nearly eleven hours with little or no cards or situations to play with but having managed to survive with a still very playable stack of 22k starting the final level it all seemed to happen so suddenly.

First of all on a board of A 2 3 6 I bet 3k into a multi-way pot of around 5k holding AT on the button when it was checked to me and firstly Javed and then Howard made what seemed like reluctant calls ! The 4 on the river caused everyone to check and Howard produces pocket 44 which he has only called with on the turn because Javed's call had priced him in.

The very next hand I find AA in the cutoff and Nick Hicks raises 3xBB to 1200(200/400/50) and I now RR to 3k which Javed naturally calls :) whereupon Nick makes it 10k. I give it a slight dwell hoping to encourage Javed and shove for 16500 total. Javed folds and Nick calls tabling KK which spiked another K on the flop and that I'm afraid is all she wrote.

I can only thank everyone who staked me and say in all honesty that I gave it my very best effort.

There is one other thing that I wish to say and that is....BUGGER !


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: snoopy1239 on December 05, 2008, 03:57:23 AM
Nothing you could do about the exit, just bad luck.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2008, 12:59:37 PM

Ralph,

I've just realised, (been reminded!) I forgot to pay you my 10% last night, oops!

I'll cough up tonight, if you come across for the £100, & I'll also give you Compo's 10%, too, as you don't bump into him very often, & I'll get it off Compo when I see him at Luton or Feltham next week.

I had a major "settling up" session at DTD on Friday, with Mother Hen, Stu Hopkin, Evil Pie, Maureen, & Tom, & I settled Tighty last night, I think I eventually ended up about £130 up!

See you tonight, I hope, & apologies for forgetting it last night.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Royal Flush on December 07, 2008, 04:16:42 PM

Ralph,

I've just realised, (been reminded!) I forgot to pay you my 10% last night, oops!

I'll cough up tonight, if you come across for the £100, & I'll also give you Compo's 10%, too, as you don't bump into him very often, & I'll get it off Compo when I see him at Luton or Feltham next week.

I had a major "settling up" session at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Friday, with Mother Hen, Stu Hopkin, Evil Pie, Maureen, & Tom, & I settled Tighty last night, I think I eventually ended up about £130 up!

See you tonight, I hope, & apologies for forgetting it last night.

Shit neither did i, Tikay can you sort Ralp for me as well please.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: tikay on December 08, 2008, 11:29:19 AM

Ralph,

I've just realised, (been reminded!) I forgot to pay you my 10% last night, oops!

I'll cough up tonight, if you come across for the £100, & I'll also give you Compo's 10%, too, as you don't bump into him very often, & I'll get it off Compo when I see him at Luton or Feltham next week.

I had a major "settling up" session at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Friday, with Mother Hen, Stu Hopkin, Evil Pie, Maureen, & Tom, & I settled Tighty last night, I think I eventually ended up about £130 up!

See you tonight, I hope, & apologies for forgetting it last night.

Shit neither did i, Tikay can you sort Ralp for me as well please.

If I'd have known yesterday, I would have!

Tell me how much it is, & I'll settle Ralph up, either directly, or via Tom. (As I did last night). Then you & me can settle up when we next cross paths, as I see you more often than Ralph does. I run so bad.....

I saw you were going well in Bristol, but I've been Offline since - did you win, or spew?


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: lazaroonie on December 08, 2008, 11:53:45 AM
I'm quite a bit gutted really after putting in a solid shift of nearly eleven hours with little or no cards or situations to play with but having managed to survive with a still very playable stack of 22k starting the final level it all seemed to happen so suddenly.

First of all on a board of A 2 3 6 I bet 3k into a multi-way pot of around 5k holding AT on the button when it was checked to me and firstly Javed and then Howard made what seemed like reluctant calls ! The 4 on the river caused everyone to check and Howard produces pocket 44 which he has only called with on the turn because Javed's call had priced him in.

The very next hand I find AA in the cutoff and Nick (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=306) Hicks (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=306) raises 3xBB to 1200(200/400/50) and I now RR to 3k which Javed naturally calls :) whereupon Nick makes it 10k. I give it a slight dwell hoping to encourage Javed and shove for 16500 total. Javed folds and Nick calls tabling KK which spiked another K on the flop and that I'm afraid is all she wrote.

I can only thank everyone who staked me and say in all honesty that I gave it my very best effort.

There is one other thing that I wish to say and that is....BUGGER !

sounds like a right bummer tbh - perfect strategy in these marathon tourneys imho - protect starting stack until +++EV opportunity for double up presents itself. which you did. I can well imagine being gutted about it.




Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Royal Flush on December 08, 2008, 07:54:29 PM

Ralph,

I've just realised, (been reminded!) I forgot to pay you my 10% last night, oops!

I'll cough up tonight, if you come across for the £100, & I'll also give you Compo's 10%, too, as you don't bump into him very often, & I'll get it off Compo when I see him at Luton or Feltham next week.

I had a major "settling up" session at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Friday, with Mother Hen, Stu Hopkin, Evil Pie, Maureen, & Tom, & I settled Tighty last night, I think I eventually ended up about £130 up!

See you tonight, I hope, & apologies for forgetting it last night.

Shit neither did i, Tikay can you sort Ralp for me as well please.

If I'd have known yesterday, I would have!

Tell me how much it is, & I'll settle Ralph up, either directly, or via Tom. (As I did last night). Then you & me can settle up when we next cross paths, as I see you more often than Ralph does. I run so bad.....

I saw you were going well in Bristol, but I've been Offline since - did you win, or spew?

I didn't win......


I think it was 10% check with Ralph if you can, thanks.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: tikay on December 08, 2008, 08:08:35 PM

Ralph,

I've just realised, (been reminded!) I forgot to pay you my 10% last night, oops!

I'll cough up tonight, if you come across for the £100, & I'll also give you Compo's 10%, too, as you don't bump into him very often, & I'll get it off Compo when I see him at Luton or Feltham next week.

I had a major "settling up" session at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Friday, with Mother Hen, Stu Hopkin, Evil Pie, Maureen, & Tom, & I settled Tighty last night, I think I eventually ended up about £130 up!

See you tonight, I hope, & apologies for forgetting it last night.

Shit neither did i, Tikay can you sort Ralp for me as well please.

If I'd have known yesterday, I would have!

Tell me how much it is, & I'll settle Ralph up, either directly, or via Tom. (As I did last night). Then you & me can settle up when we next cross paths, as I see you more often than Ralph does. I run so bad.....

I saw you were going well in Bristol, but I've been Offline since - did you win, or spew?

I didn't win......


I think it was 10% check with Ralph if you can, thanks.

Will do.

Ralph - How much?


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Karabiner on December 08, 2008, 09:14:07 PM
10%

Thanks for the conveyancing :)


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: tikay on December 08, 2008, 10:50:04 PM
10%

Thanks for the conveyancing :)

Consider it conveynced.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Redbull on December 08, 2008, 11:25:40 PM
Very unlucky we had to have that cooler Ralph :o(. Many thanks for the good wishes afterwards, always a gent.

PS, I shall be watching my back so as not to get lynched by your stakers!


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: tikay on December 14, 2008, 03:40:49 PM

Ralph,

I've just realised, (been reminded!) I forgot to pay you my 10% last night, oops!

I'll cough up tonight, if you come across for the £100, & I'll also give you Compo's 10%, too, as you don't bump into him very often, & I'll get it off Compo when I see him at Luton or Feltham next week.

I had a major "settling up" session at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Friday, with Mother Hen, Stu Hopkin, Evil Pie, Maureen, & Tom, & I settled Tighty last night, I think I eventually ended up about £130 up!

See you tonight, I hope, & apologies for forgetting it last night.

Shit neither did i, Tikay can you sort Ralp for me as well please.

Hi Flushy,

I settled this on your behalf last night. I was in DTD, I gave it to Tom, & he then turned round & gave it to Ralph. Don't ask, it all makes sense.

So you are now in my debt. I've always dreamed of this moment.

I'll prob be down in Brighton in January, for at least part of one or both of the two Fessies, we can sort it then.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Royal Flush on December 14, 2008, 05:34:14 PM

Ralph,

I've just realised, (been reminded!) I forgot to pay you my 10% last night, oops!

I'll cough up tonight, if you come across for the £100, & I'll also give you Compo's 10%, too, as you don't bump into him very often, & I'll get it off Compo when I see him at Luton or Feltham next week.

I had a major "settling up" session at DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/) on Friday, with Mother Hen, Stu Hopkin, Evil Pie, Maureen, & Tom, & I settled Tighty last night, I think I eventually ended up about £130 up!

See you tonight, I hope, & apologies for forgetting it last night.

Shit neither did i, Tikay can you sort Ralp for me as well please.

Hi Flushy,

I settled this on your behalf last night. I was in DT (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/)D (http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/), I gave it to Tom, & he then turned round & gave it to Ralph. Don't ask, it all makes sense.

So you are now in my debt. I've always dreamed of this moment.

I'll prob be down in Brighton in January, for at least part of one or both of the two Fessies, we can sort it then.

Cheers Tony and sorry Ralph for taking so long, i been so disorganised with these things lately, it took me an age to pay Red as well!


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: RED-DOG on December 14, 2008, 05:41:55 PM
I wasn't worried.

I was desperate, but not worried.


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Royal Flush on December 15, 2008, 03:29:46 AM
I wasn't worried.

I was desperate, but not worried.

Did you spend it on the buffet?


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: RED-DOG on December 16, 2008, 12:34:05 PM
I wasn't worried.

I was desperate, but not worried.

Did you spend it on the buffet?

Sigh...

Perhaps I can get you back into debt during the GUKPT in Jan


Title: Re: Anniversary Cup Staking Required
Post by: Royal Flush on December 16, 2008, 02:22:31 PM
I wasn't worried.

I was desperate, but not worried.

Did you spend it on the buffet?

Sigh...

Perhaps I can get you back into debt during the GUKPT in Jan

At least i can pay out faster down here....