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Title: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 12, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
Hey Guys,

For those of you who don't know me, my name is Tom Rutter.

I am looking for staking in the Broadway festival main event - a £1000 + £60 event starting on the 19th of February 2009 with a one hour clock and 15k starting stack

Also looking for staking in the Walsall GUKPT main event - £1000 + £60 - 26th Feb 2009, one hour clock, 10k starting stack

Track Record - http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=67235

As you can see, I have had a few results, the best of which was a 4th place in the GBPT Nottingham leg 2008 m/e for £12,500 (gg George), though no crowning achievement! So far this year I have played 4 ranking events, final tabling in two. I am playing with confidence and feel like I am playing well.

As many of you will have seen, George2Loose has previously posted on here asking for the entire buy-in in return for 70% of his equity. I am only looking to sell 50% of my equity, but intend to do so at the same rate as George has been doing, as this seems fairly standard for these threads, and in my opinion, fair.

So.. sorry for getting there in a round-about way, but here is the offer..

Entire buy in = £1060
5% = £53
£53 x (100/70) = £75.71 - for simplicity's sake I will round this down to £75


So I am asking for £75 for a 5% stake, or multiplications thereof. If anyone wants a smaller stake let me know and that is fine too!

The one thing that I should mention is my policy on deals, in case this could possibly bring up any problems later. If I was to final in this tournament I would not do a chop. What I may well do, however, is negotiate a deal whereby the top few prizes were brought closer together in order to take some variance out of the equation, but with play continuing for a significant amount.

I have already sold some via PM/to friends. I have 5% remaining for Broadway and 45% for Walsall. Please let me know if you are interested (either on this thread or via PM)


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 15, 2009, 11:45:21 AM
Sold out for broadway, 25% left for Walsall


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: LeKnave on February 15, 2009, 11:58:51 AM
am i down for 10% of walsall? if not, put me down plz.


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 15, 2009, 04:47:02 PM
am i down for 10% of walsall? if not, put me down plz.

Booked mate, cheers. Can u bank transfer it as before?


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 15, 2009, 04:49:21 PM
5% left for Walsall, sold out for broadway.

Forgot to mention.. I will be playing day 1B of both


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: action man on February 16, 2009, 05:50:01 PM
ill take the 5% plz


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 16, 2009, 11:43:57 PM
ill take the 5% plz

sure mate, will PM you soon


so.. all sold out. cheers guys! hope i can return on your investments!


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: George2Loose on February 18, 2009, 06:34:28 PM
Just so you know- Tom shipped the 100 with one 50 pound rebuy at broadway last night for 8k

weeeeeeee


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 19, 2009, 12:22:23 AM
Just so you know- Tom shipped the 100 with one 50 pound rebuy at broadway last night for 8k

weeeeeeee

weeeeeeee cheers george


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Dewi_cool on February 19, 2009, 12:57:33 AM
da iawn tom. see u next week


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: ChipRich on February 19, 2009, 01:04:02 AM
wp, n1 Rutter.


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 19, 2009, 01:41:43 PM
cheers guys, see u soon


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 26, 2009, 09:19:36 PM
hey guys, sorry, no good.

had a really tough starting table - roberto romanello, dave colclough, john tabatabai, jon kalmar, one unknown solid young player and a couple of unknowns who didnt seem too hot.

decided to grind at this table, playing mainly for value, but with expert advice coming in on the text from big brother stu, decided to set it up with one big bluff to destroy my image and hopefully set up some payment later!

after 110 mins of not much change (up to 11k), the perfect spot arrived. john tabatabai (who was playing a vast number of pots) min-raised to 200 in mid position. dave colcloough on his left called. roberto romanello in the SB then made it 850 to go. I decided this was the perfect spot for the image-setting 4-bet. If roberto called or re-shipped i could show down my hand to set up the image i wanted without losing too much. As it happened, it played out perfectly, my 4-bet to 2350 prompting roberto to muck  Ad Kh face up, and me to show down  Jc 4d

however, i never really got to use this to my advantage. halfway through the third level i looked down at  8c 8s under the gun. i limped for 150 from my 10k stack, as did 5 others (including the blinds). the flop came down a beautiful  9h 8h 4c, into which i lead 700. dave colclough called, with everyone else passing

the turn  6s looked relatively safe, so i bet 1300. dave raised to 3400, meaning if i called i would have ~5000 behind. two hands are beating me at this point -  7-5h  and 7-10. however, i decided that just as likely (if not more so) dave could have  4d 4h or a turned two pair such as  4h 6h or  9s 6c, or perhaps even a very cleverly played  Jh Th or  Qh Th. in the situation where i was up against 7-10 or 7-5, i still have ten outs, so my 7k to win 21k looked in good shape against his range, and i shipped.

an insta-call from dave with  7c Tc and a  5d river meant i was out

sorry i couldnt do more! i really do believe there is no escaping this hand. does anyone have any suggestions to how i can play it differently? obviously a check on the flop means i could keep it cheaper, but i really think this is a poor way to play it in a six-way pot.


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 26, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
ul Tom, I think your analysis is right, you can't do anything there. Though I'd rather you raised pre!


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 26, 2009, 10:34:04 PM
ul Tom, I think your analysis is right, you can't do anything there. Though I'd rather you raised pre!

cheers mate.

i actually dont like the raise pre. John (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1073) Tabatabai (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1073) was very active, and was in cut-off. if i raise i think he is likely to flat and take it off me on any non-8 flop. if i am not utg i may raise small and try and see a flop in position.

but of course the raise pre stops me from going bust in this spot :)


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 27, 2009, 12:32:08 AM
ul Tom, I think your analysis is right, you can't do anything there. Though I'd rather you raised pre!

cheers mate.

i actually dont like the raise pre. John (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1073) Tabatabai (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1073) was very active, and was in cut-off. if i raise i think he is likely to flat and take it off me on any non-8 flop. if i am not utg i may raise small and try and see a flop in position.

but of course the raise pre stops me from going bust :)

But by that extension of thinking, surely if no-one else limps he can raise preflop and take you off the flop anyway? Or even squeeze you out preflop with a big raise? Even if he does flat, he has to respect a UTG raise right?


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 27, 2009, 12:54:54 AM
maybe maybe, but up to that point big pre-flop raises hadn't been his style. a few times he had min-raised pre in order to play flops with the betting lead, something that can only be good news for a hand i am playing to hit a set or give up

my thinking may be very different to others in this situation, but with small pairs (in which i include 88 and 99) i like to see a flop in a multi-way pot when the stacks are still deep.


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Royal Flush on February 27, 2009, 01:25:36 AM
Raise pre and you are still in.

Limping makes your hand kinda transparent, i don't see how Kunku takes it off you on the flop surely you know how to call?


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 27, 2009, 01:40:59 AM
Raise pre and you are still in.

Limping makes your hand kinda transparent, i don't see how Kunku takes it off you on the flop surely you know how to call?

yeah, as i said, raise pre and i am still in. dont think thats really the point though - it doesnt confirm raising as a better play. you may as well say "throw you cards at colclough and you are still in"

the point of raising pre-flop is not to avoid some kind of sick cooler, it is to either get value from a strong hand or because that hand plays well HU. by limping i am much more likely to be on the good end of a cooler. set vs overset is very unlikely if no pre-flop raise occurs and set vs. underset or two pair seem much more likely than set vs. an unlikely straight.

and of course i know how to call. thanks for the sarcasm. by raising in this spot i am likely to see a flop HU or 3-way. also, this is very likely to be against tabatabai, sitting in late position. when there is a player of absolute class at the table i dont actively seek to play pots against them out of position and put myself in a position to be exploited

lastly, i dont understand why limping makes my hand more transparent. i limp utg with a much wider range of hands than i raise with - any suited connectors, any small or medium pair, and occasinally big pairs too (though perhaps not in this early stage of a tournament). raising utg requires a stronger hand, meaning my range is reduced to medium-high pairs and big aces


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Royal Flush on February 27, 2009, 03:28:56 AM
Raise pre and you are still in.

Limping makes your hand kinda transparent, i don't see how Kunku takes it off you on the flop surely you know how to call?

yeah, as i said, raise pre and i am still in. dont think thats really the point though - it doesnt confirm raising as a better play. you may as well say "throw you cards at colclough and you are still in"

the point of raising pre-flop is not to avoid some kind of sick cooler, it is to either get value from a strong hand or because that hand plays well HU. by limping i am much more likely to be on the good end of a cooler. set vs overset is very unlikely if no pre-flop raise occurs and set vs. underset or two pair seem much more likely than set vs. an unlikely straight.

and of course i know how to call. thanks for the sarcasm. by raising in this spot i am likely to see a flop HU or 3-way. also, this is very likely to be against tabatabai, sitting in late position. when there is a player of absolute class at the table i dont actively seek to play pots against them out of position and put myself in a position to be exploited

lastly, i dont understand why limping makes my hand more transparent. i limp utg with a much wider range of hands than i raise with - any suited connectors, any small or medium pair, and occasinally big pairs too (though perhaps not in this early stage of a tournament). raising utg requires a stronger hand, meaning my range is reduced to medium-high pairs and big aces

It's not limited to those hands if you start raising suited connectors UTG is it?

Limp calling raises with pairs to hit sets just doesn't work, unless you hit sets more than everyone else in which case, keep bleeding!

It's ok to play pots OOP vs better players when you already have a hand!

Just from this post it already appears that you sat at the table and decided everyone was better than you, so whatever you did it probably wouldn't have worked out to well because you would have spent the day levelling yourself, there is not much difference between the top players and you Tom, don't get intimidated.


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Rupert on February 27, 2009, 05:25:25 AM
J4 play is gutsy!  I wonder if he ever folds QQ there.

Raise 88 for sure, you're gonna win more by playing less players and cbetting frequently.  When it's a multi way limped pot and you bet, one of two things are happening: you're crushed or you're giving really bad reverse implied odds (ok and occasionally you set over set them).  This is cos your leading range is so tight (like you are never ever bluffing here).  When you raise you thin out the field, you get to take it down when you miss flops and you don't get put in tough situations where you're going to be getting it in bad more than you might think.


Title: Re: Broadway and Walsall main events
Post by: Rupert on February 27, 2009, 05:29:32 AM
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lastly, i dont understand why limping makes my hand more transparent. i limp utg with a much wider range of hands than i raise with - any suited connectors, any small or medium pair, and occasinally big pairs too (though perhaps not in this early stage of a tournament). raising utg requires a stronger hand, meaning my range is reduced to medium-high pairs and big aces

Not that being exploitable matters too much in your average GUKPT, but it sounds like you were at a tough table.  If Tabatabi estimates that to be your opening range (or any of the other good players) they're gonna isolate you a lot in position and you lose the pot really frequently postflop and when you do hit you get paid one cbet worth unless you happen to cooler them.