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Title: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: Tractor on April 07, 2009, 07:02:52 PM
Not sure theres many people on here that are into Hip Hop but Jaguar Skillz did an hour mash up with 538 tracks, its well worth a listen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/30yearsofhiphop/downloads/jagskills.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/30yearsofhiphop/downloads/jagskills.shtml)


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: Jim-D on April 07, 2009, 07:38:29 PM
Jaguar Skillz is the shit, and last nights Zane/Westwood show was bloody awesome, some sweet old high school memories came flooding back :)


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: madasahatstand on April 08, 2009, 10:30:34 AM
Thanks for the link Tractor, got Grandmaster Flash on now and getting into the mood to dance ;)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC_8AELqih0


There is some trash in modern hiphop like pop-style gansta rap. NWA, Cube and IceT were superb but once you've heard Snoop Dogs first album (which was brilliant), you've heard them all. I still loved all the new 90's sounds at the time and never had Dr Dre off, those were the days but not as good my real heroes like Young MC.

Any more good rap/hip hop/b boy links are appreciated.

Cheers :)


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: Nakor on April 08, 2009, 06:02:08 PM
Jaguar Skillz is the shit, and last nights Zane/Westwood show was bloody awesome, some sweet old high school memories came flooding back :)

This


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: Jim-D on April 08, 2009, 06:09:20 PM
The thing that baffled me a little was, how on earth had Barack Obama had more influence on hip hop than Snoop or Cube?

Doggystyle was a fantastic album, I always remember sitting at the back of class with it playing in my walkman with me and a mate sharing an ear and covering with our hands so we wouldn't get spotted.....until everyone went quiet whilst reading some shakespeare crap and all that could be heard was 'Murder was the case that they gave me' blaring out :)


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: Tractor on April 08, 2009, 06:15:31 PM
Im not sure i would be in aggrement with the all time top 30 most infulencial in Hip Hop but then again im more the old school so I cant really see Jay -z at number one and in my mind surely Afrika Bambaata should be there?



   1.  Jay-Z
   2. Dr Dre
   3. Russell Simmons
   4. Grandmaster Flash
   5. Kanye West
   6. Chuck D
   7. Eminem
   8. Tupac
   9. Notorious BIG
  10. KRS1
  11. Afrika Bambaata
  12. Kool Herc
  13. Nas
  14. Spike Lee
  15. Public Enemy
  16. P Diddy
  17. James Brown
  18. Run DMC
  19. Barack Obama
  20. Rakim
  21. Snoop Dogg
  22. LL Cool J
  23. Lil Wayne
  24. DJ Premier
  25. Wu Tang Clan
  26. Beastie Boys
  27. De La Soul
  28. Ice Cube
  29. N.W.A
  30. Q-Tip


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: byronkincaid on April 08, 2009, 06:19:00 PM
Im not sure i would be in aggrement with the all time top 30 most infulencial in Hip Hop but then again im more the old school so I cant really see Jay -z at number one and in my mind surely Afrika Bambaata should be there?



   1.  Jay-Z
   2. Dr Dre
   3. Russell Simmons
   4. Grandmaster Flash
   5. Kanye West
   6. Chuck D
   7. Eminem
   8. Tupac
   9. Notorious BIG
  10. KRS1
  11. Afrika Bambaata
  12. Kool Herc
  13. Nas
  14. Spike Lee
  15. Public Enemy
  16. P Diddy
  17. James Brown
  18. Run DMC
  19. Barack Obama
  20. Rakim
  21. Snoop Dogg
  22. LL Cool J
  23. Lil Wayne
  24. DJ Premier
  25. Wu Tang Clan
  26. Beastie Boys
  27. De La Soul
  28. Ice Cube
  29. N.W.A
  30. Q-Tip


where's Derek B ???


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: faireycakes on April 15, 2009, 07:03:53 AM
Sounds good to me.

Have any of you lot seen scratch ? Really like that dvd. Infact the bboy one they did was good as well.

Hip hop shouldnt be confused with rap, which i think it is mostly, slightly unfairly. It seems that rap like to steal the category and people listen to what the majority do at that time. Its really easy to hear the difference in how its composed though.

In reality Afrika Bambaata should be at the top but ive never trusted any chart radio1 or anything from anyone else mainstream that is done lately. Its all about advertising what can be sold.

Too much time spent with the old schoolers for me i think.

One day, not far away this musics going to make its return, Deservedly so. Pretty much somes up our world at the moment, freedom of expression and what not,


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: madasahatstand on April 15, 2009, 07:18:35 AM
Hip-hop and rap are very much linked and always have been.

Any links to Scratch?


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: faireycakes on April 15, 2009, 07:34:49 AM
very much linked yes but i dont think they are really the same.
Ill have a gander for a link

Found this quickly but its more of an advert for the dvd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo9hXuqN-uw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo9hXuqN-uw)

Cheap as chips to buy here though http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/718192/Scratch/Product.html (http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/718192/Scratch/Product.html)

Its more of a dj thing but its definitely interesting to watch and appreciate even if you dont dj. Which i dont it has to be said.


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: madasahatstand on April 15, 2009, 07:37:56 AM
Tell me isn't rap and hip-hop  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJCmtZMc1g&feature=PlayList&p=BEBF224F4BF3B683&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=31

Thanks for links, I'll check them out.


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: madasahatstand on April 15, 2009, 07:42:38 AM
very much linked yes but i dont think they are really the same.
Ill have a gander for a link

Found this quickly but its more of an advert for the dvd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo9hXuqN-uw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo9hXuqN-uw)

Cheap as chips to buy here though http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/718192/Scratch/Product.html (http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/718192/Scratch/Product.html)

Its more of a dj thing but its definitely interesting to watch and appreciate even if you dont dj. Which i dont it has to be said.

All that scratchin's making me itch....love it!


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: faireycakes on April 15, 2009, 08:32:27 AM
i thought id got myself into a corner when i got questioned the rap thing. But listening to the end of the 30years thing you can hear what im saying there. despite the fact that the mood is kinda dictated by jag skills more than the songs themselves. To me hip hops more varied, More often lively where as rap is fairly droney. Just a shame we get a higher percentage of drone now.

I did actually have a quick search and certain sites may have certain scratch torrents available. Not that i in any way endorse that.Well worth owning for a fiver though.


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: madasahatstand on April 15, 2009, 08:39:19 AM
LOL, no knock off Nigel for you then?

I know where you are coming from, music evolves and now rap is synonymous with some really poor sounds like most gansta rap. Even if you listen to some gansta rap or modern rap, I'd argue that hiphop is core to a lot of it and you can't get rid of roots very easy.

Any more scratching sounds, send my way.



Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: madasahatstand on April 15, 2009, 08:53:21 AM
Love this.. some really good scratchin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgvJY9xxcA&feature=related


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: Tractor on April 15, 2009, 09:05:48 AM
I think Hip Hop is the culture, lifestyle if you like.
Then within that Hip Hop lifestyle you encompase Rap, music, Break dancing, Graffiti, djing etc.
So when we talk about Hip Hop we are talking about the whole package.


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: faireycakes on April 15, 2009, 09:18:44 AM
Love this.. some really good scratchin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgvJY9xxcA&feature=related

Lots of duva duva, or however you type it.

This mans to blame for my interest
http://www.myspace.com/djpelt

The music on their now though now is just cuts of music hes made in the past to give mc's a choice in the style of music they like and are into. Suprising the amount of music given to MC's that they fail to use. Lazy bunch most of them.

Probablly the one of the saddest things ive done is give the dj of a cd his cd to copy. Totally legit, nobody owns the rites to the song any more.
I ended up picking one up for his christmas pressie last year. Having a copy of your own stuff didnt seem right.

Muso's are just getting lazy now though. Its even hard to give away free music if your not the in thing.


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: Free_Rollin on April 16, 2009, 12:15:39 AM
Im not sure i would be in aggrement with the all time top 30 most infulencial in Hip Hop but then again im more the old school so I cant really see Jay -z at number one and in my mind surely Afrika Bambaata should be there?



   1.  Jay-Z
   2. Dr Dre
   3. Russell Simmons
   4. Grandmaster Flash
   5. Kanye West
   6. Chuck D
   7. Eminem
   8. Tupac
   9. Notorious BIG
  10. KRS1
  11. Afrika Bambaata
  12. Kool Herc
  13. Nas
  14. Spike Lee
  15. Public Enemy
  16. P Diddy
  17. James Brown
  18. Run DMC
  19. Barack Obama
  20. Rakim
  21. Snoop Dogg
  22. LL Cool J
  23. Lil Wayne
  24. DJ Premier
  25. Wu Tang Clan
  26. Beastie Boys
  27. De La Soul
  28. Ice Cube
  29. N.W.A
  30. Q-Tip


Dre, Biggie, Snoop and Jay-Z.... Hip Hop Legends.


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: LeedsRhodesy on April 16, 2009, 12:34:28 AM
that was sick

Does anyone know how to put it onto a Cd??


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: madasahatstand on April 16, 2009, 07:06:56 AM
I think Hip Hop is the culture, lifestyle if you like.
Then within that Hip Hop lifestyle you encompase Rap, music, Break dancing, Graffiti, djing etc.
So when we talk about Hip Hop we are talking about the whole package.

Good description and I agree with you.


Title: Re: 30 years of Hip Hop
Post by: madasahatstand on April 16, 2009, 07:22:18 AM
Love this.. some really good scratchin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgvJY9xxcA&feature=related

Lots of duva duva, or however you type it.

This mans to blame for my interest
http://www.myspace.com/djpelt

The music on their now though now is just cuts of music hes made in the past to give mc's a choice in the style of music they like and are into. Suprising the amount of music given to MC's that they fail to use. Lazy bunch most of them.

Probablly the one of the saddest things ive done is give the dj of a cd his cd to copy. Totally legit, nobody owns the rites to the song any more.
I ended up picking one up for his christmas pressie last year. Having a copy of your own stuff didnt seem right.

Muso's are just getting lazy now though. Its even hard to give away free music if your not the in thing.

Not bad at all. I read the piece on rap not being hip hop and I know where the guy is coming from but still dont agree. Gangsta and violence 'gonna bust a cap in your ass' type stuff gives hiphop a bad name. Dont get me wrong, some of it is pretty good but I prefer PE for some heavy tunes. Here's one for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdwPYuC5Y4k&feature=related