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Title: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2009, 11:15:50 PM
OK So Faraday's mom kills her son and sends him back knowing she's going to kill him?

Does that mean nothing can be changed???

Who is Jacob? Jack's dad?

Who is Richard? The dude who never ages?

Are all questions going to be answered going back to series one???


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: LeKnave on April 30, 2009, 11:17:29 PM
juuuune faraday wont die.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2009, 11:19:10 PM
he didn't die at the end?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2009, 11:20:25 PM
where's syed as well?

Is something truly fucked up gonna happen like Jack turns out to be his own dad in some sort of mating with a hostile kinda deal???


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: pokerfan on April 30, 2009, 11:25:59 PM
Ask Bolt he`s doing their scripts!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on April 30, 2009, 11:26:19 PM
pretty sure faraday can't die, he's too important to the plot atm. unless his mum takes over his work using his book. she's got some scary shit seeing into the future powers so could be useful


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 01, 2009, 01:10:09 AM

Is something truly fucked up gonna happen like Jack turns out to be his own dad in some sort of mating with a hostile kinda deal???

nah he's too old isn't he?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on May 01, 2009, 01:57:05 AM
OK So Faraday's mom kills her son and sends him back knowing she's going to kill him?

Does that mean nothing can be changed???

Who is Jacob? Jack's dad?

Who is Richard? The dude who never ages?

Are all questions going to be answered going back to series one???

I've heard that an actor has been cast to play the role of Jacob, which does lead me to believe that Jacob isn't anyone we've already met. - But this could be wrong, Lost like to keep us guessing.   

I would strongly recommend this blog :  http://longlivelocke.blogspot.com/  She has some good theories, JJ Abrams loves to hide clues in the episodes and I for one don't have the time or patience to look for myself. So def worth a read.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: mondatoo on May 01, 2009, 02:04:58 AM
 Must not read thread

HOUSE


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: KarmaDope on May 01, 2009, 02:05:49 AM
So why click on it?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: mondatoo on May 01, 2009, 02:07:14 AM
So why click on it?

Coz i like bingo


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on May 01, 2009, 02:46:11 AM
This may be of interest

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Dharma_booth_video

The Video was realised Just before the start of season 5, some people are saying that the voice behind the camera is in fact Daniel Faraday, that leads us to believe he isn't dead. 

Sure we'll find out soon.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 01, 2009, 02:58:59 AM
This may be of interest

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Chang.jpg

The Video was realised Just before the start of season 5, some people are saying that the voice behind the camera is in fact Daniel Faraday, that leads us to believe he isn't dead. 

Sure we'll find out soon.

what voice? I haven't got a voice. how do I hear the voice?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on May 01, 2009, 03:02:49 AM
This may be of interest

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Chang.jpg

The Video was realised Just before the start of season 5, some people are saying that the voice behind the camera is in fact Daniel Faraday, that leads us to believe he isn't dead. 

Sure we'll find out soon.


what voice? I haven't got a voice. how do I hear the voice?

My bad, link didn't copy correctly!! try this:  http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Dharma_booth_video


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 01, 2009, 03:11:29 AM
ooh, that's just weird


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 14, 2009, 01:34:05 AM
fao kev, re: polar bears

they may or may not have explained it better than I remember and I may have misunderstood some of it

polar bears were kept in cages on the 2nd island by the dharma initiative where they watched them to see whether they could get fish biscuits and water without getting electrocuted

presumably they escaped at some point and swam/nicked boats and rowed to the main island


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Nakor on May 14, 2009, 04:17:35 PM
Opinions please;

Did the bomb work?  i.e reset time?

Is "the Smoke/Monster" now Locke?
What loophole? - (jacob locke conversation)

Is Penny's child Charlie going to be Charles Whitmore or Hobbit Charlie?

Is Claire dead?

Does the bomb destroy the statue?

Statue linked to the baby issue?  (Statue might be Egyptian fertility god?)

Any idea who was talking to Jacob at start of episode?

What are the whispers in the jungle?

New series in January?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 14, 2009, 04:35:17 PM
so fucking sick, the one thing I didn't want to happen has happened i.e. the bomb going off being the ending of the season. now we have abs no clue about anything, even less than before. love it.

jacob is one weird character, still a lot more to find out about him

presumably the bloke at the start of the episode somehow became locke so he could persuade ben to kill jacob

charlie must be hobbit charlie otherwise charles widmore would be his own grandfather

pretty sure there's more from claire. we haven't seen her die and one of desmond's visions was of her getting on a helicopter which we've yet to see

my head hurts





Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: LOJ on May 14, 2009, 04:44:40 PM


Isnt this the last series?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 14, 2009, 04:53:34 PM
I think they should just stop now.


all you lost fans would need serious counselling, it would be sooooooooo funny.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 14, 2009, 04:55:01 PM


Isnt this the last series?

nope, 1 more


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Nakor on May 14, 2009, 04:55:18 PM
I think they should just stop now.


all you lost fans would need serious counselling, it would be sooooooooo funny.

Dont worry Kev I suspect it will be no different come the end of the next series tbh.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Colchester Kev on May 14, 2009, 05:02:33 PM
I just watched the last double episode, I have to watch it in silence, as any laughing or pointing out stoooooopid things means i get a punch from Jane and no tea for a week.

But FFS ... the opening of this epi gives you the first ever sighting of Jacob, and some geezer saying he wants to kill him, but obv cant as he needs a loophole... meaning Jacob is some sort of immortal, kind of like Highlander LOL

Anyway, he gets his loophole, via Lockes body and Bens pent up frustration ... and kills him (or does he), just before he gets burnt in a grease fire, Jacob says "they're coming" ... yes Jacob, its the fucking men in white coats, they are coming to take the viewers off to the loony bin where this programme has sent them !!


Now you have to wait 6 months or so for your next fix ... FYL's



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: LOJ on May 14, 2009, 05:10:25 PM


Isnt this the last series?

nope, 1 more

ffs...  I thought it was all over this weekend coming...  Double eps here i come....


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Suited_Jock on May 14, 2009, 05:12:22 PM
Opinions please;

Did the bomb work?  i.e reset time?
I reckon the hydrogen bomb going off is the same as the fail safe that Des pushes.. Jack et al get sent through time back to present?

Is "the Smoke/Monster" now Locke?
What loophole? - (jacob locke conversation)
Not Locke but takes Locke's form, I reckon thats one of his powers.. can be seen as dead bodies on the island to influence people, Christian, Ben's Mum, lots of others im sure.. the whole rule thing reminds be a bit of the Constantine story line of God / Devil having a wager to see who could take more souls.. They could influence but not kill / touch etc... [/]

Is Penny's child Charlie going to be Charles Whitmore or Hobbit Charlie?
eh?

Is Claire dead?
Don't think so

Does the bomb destroy the statue?
No else everyone else would be dead

Statue linked to the baby issue?  (Statue might be Egyptian fertility god?)
could be

Any idea who was talking to Jacob at start of episode?
Jacobs brother?

What are the whispers in the jungle?
?? same guy Jacobs brother

New series in January?
can't wait


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: maldini32 on May 14, 2009, 06:02:29 PM
WOW!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Nem on May 14, 2009, 06:19:09 PM
WOW!

best tv show ever


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on May 14, 2009, 11:43:45 PM
so sick- i have no clue about what is going on.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: seven2unsuited on May 16, 2009, 12:04:36 PM
they must survive after the bomb,  doctor chang made videos for the swan station with a fake hand, which just got damaged at end of last episode. 


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 16, 2009, 12:16:23 PM
Opinions please;

Did the bomb work?  i.e reset time?

Is "the Smoke/Monster" now Locke?
What loophole? - (jacob locke conversation)

Is Penny's child Charlie going to be Charles Whitmore or Hobbit Charlie?

Is Claire dead?

Does the bomb destroy the statue?

Statue linked to the baby issue?  (Statue might be Egyptian fertility god?)

Any idea who was talking to Jacob at start of episode?

What are the whispers in the jungle?

New series in January?


it never dawned on me that Charlie the kid could be 'the' Charlie, but yes it figures.  Claire will be back in season 6, she had some 'personal' issues so they had to write her out of season 5 so to speak but she's back next time.

Who was the other guy at the start with Jacob?  Did I miss his name?

New series will be feb-may exactly like now...


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on May 16, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
Apparantly it's Jacob's brother....

Is Locke actually dead then?

And how can Desmond's son be Charlie???


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: seven2unsuited on May 17, 2009, 12:49:01 AM
think desmond named his wean after him as he was there when charlie died.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on May 17, 2009, 02:44:13 AM
Took this from Lostpedia, relating to the mysterious man (Jacob's enemy).  I found it quite interesting.


The casting call described him as "Samuel. Any ethnicity, 40s-60s. A corporate raider looking to take over his next company. Powerful, devious and obtuse. He has a cunning intellect and a strong sense of danger. May lead to recurring. Looking for someone very interesting and very special for this role..."

The actions of this individual closely resemble those of the "Un-Man", the demonic spirit controlling Professor Edward Weston in C.S. Lewis' planetary romance Perelandra. In the novel, the Un-Man entered an island planet by taking possession of a dead man, and did not take direct action, but rather worked through trying to persuade another to commit an evil act. This persuasion involved questioning the motivations of a being who had until then been considered an undisputed spiritual authority.

In the Bible, Jacob's brother, with whom he has a tenuous and sometimes antagonistic relationship, is named Esau.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob%27s_enemy




Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on May 17, 2009, 02:50:04 AM

Oh and here's the translation of what Richard answered to Ilana (in Latin) when she asked, "What lies in the shadow of the statue?"

"He who will protect/save us all."


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: cdw1111 on May 18, 2009, 10:05:46 AM
     Why do i watch this show,i'am more confused than ever.I must not click on the lostpedia link as last time i wasted 4 hrs of my life and came out the other end none the wiser.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: NigDawG on February 03, 2010, 06:58:42 PM
so.....does this mean the show will have two different endings?

one kate gets with jack while the other gets with sawyer to please everybody i guess, wbsfn to have two at once tho


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on February 03, 2010, 09:44:09 PM
this explains a bit what's going on

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/02/lost-premiere-damon-carlton/


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on February 03, 2010, 09:53:49 PM
this explains a bit what's going on

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/02/lost-premiere-damon-carlton/

Is it me or did that pretty much answer nothing lol


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on February 03, 2010, 11:42:51 PM

Anyone else think that Jacob could now be in Sayid, like the other guy/smoke monster is emulating Locke?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on February 03, 2010, 11:47:29 PM
apparently he had a different voice, i didn't notice it myself


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: NigDawG on February 04, 2010, 03:14:27 AM
actually yeh i did notice he had a different voice, it was british sounding i just assumed it was poor quality vid at the end though lol


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on February 04, 2010, 08:45:06 AM
The prob I see with sayid=Jacob is the other guy isn't possesing locke's dead body. He's duplicated it.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 04, 2010, 10:37:15 AM
who had a different voice, sayid or locke?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on February 04, 2010, 11:23:01 AM
sayid after he woke from the dead



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 04, 2010, 11:46:58 AM
def didn't notice at the time. just rewatched it and it could be a different voice or it could be a groggy just woke up from being dead voice


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: sledge13 on February 04, 2010, 04:36:17 PM
So did the fat guy own up to his Maccy D's on the island, or is that gonna be in the finale?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on February 04, 2010, 04:49:53 PM
So did the fat guy own up to his Maccy D's on the island, or is that gonna be in the finale?

ban pls for spoilers on future eps


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Colchester Kev on February 04, 2010, 04:54:29 PM
So did the fat guy own up to his Maccy D's on the island, or is that gonna be in the finale?

Though that was about Girgy on holiday in cyprus :D


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Horneris on February 04, 2010, 05:00:15 PM

Anyone else think that Jacob could now be in Sayid, like the other guy/smoke monster is emulating Locke?


That was my initial thought and reaction, but surely they would make Jacob Jack not Sayid, as his constant battle with Locke is symbolic.

could be.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: maldini32 on February 04, 2010, 05:35:14 PM

Anyone else think that Jacob could now be in Sayid, like the other guy/smoke monster is emulating Locke?


That was my initial thought and reaction, but surely they would make Jacob Jack not Sayid, as his constant battle with Locke is symbolic.

could be.

Hahaha love your sig at the bottom 'Total available £0.00'


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on February 10, 2010, 12:08:05 PM
Spoilers for ep 3...



Yay, Claire's back :D

Not entirely sure where these alt universe storylines are going or why they're relevant. Hopefully it'll become a bit more apparent but todays felt a little bit like it did in season 1/2 where the flashbacks got in the way and i was more interested in what was going on on the island.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: creepy_benji on February 10, 2010, 01:17:34 PM

Anyone else think that Jacob could now be in Sayid, like the other guy/smoke monster is emulating Locke?


That was my initial thought and reaction, but surely they would make Jacob Jack not Sayid, as his constant battle with Locke is symbolic.

could be.

But why would they poison jacob? didnt they say in ep 1/2 they're trying to keep the smoke monster out and mac from ASIP talked about it too this ep....awesome cameo btw.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on February 10, 2010, 03:14:53 PM

Anyone else think that Jacob could now be in Sayid, like the other guy/smoke monster is emulating Locke?


That was my initial thought and reaction, but surely they would make Jacob Jack not Sayid, as his constant battle with Locke is symbolic.

could be.

But why would they poison jacob? didnt they say in ep 1/2 they're trying to keep the smoke monster out and mac from ASIP talked about it too this ep....awesome cameo btw.

hahaha, i abs pissed em when i saw him.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on February 10, 2010, 04:51:46 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 10, 2010, 05:02:02 PM
this season had better be about 200 episodes long if they're going to tell me what the fuck is going on


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: creepy_benji on February 10, 2010, 05:03:23 PM

Anyone else think that Jacob could now be in Sayid, like the other guy/smoke monster is emulating Locke?


That was my initial thought and reaction, but surely they would make Jacob Jack not Sayid, as his constant battle with Locke is symbolic.

could be.

But why would they poison jacob? didnt they say in ep 1/2 they're trying to keep the smoke monster out and mac from ASIP talked about it too this ep....awesome cameo btw.

hahaha, i abs pissed em when i saw him.

Did you notice him the first time around in season 4?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Royal Flush on February 10, 2010, 05:08:30 PM
Mac was incred, so tilting he snap dies.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: smileriraq on February 11, 2010, 08:33:46 AM
friend of mine noticed something which may or may not be relevant

in the first series before the plane crashed it was jack who says that the turbelence is normal

in the first episode of the new series its the black woman who says it we then dive down through the atmosphere to see the island underwater

so my immediate thinking is that we have paralell universes going on so.............................ah fuck it im lost again


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on February 11, 2010, 06:18:33 PM
Who is Mac and what is ASIP? I didn't notice any big cameo appearances in ep 3


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 11, 2010, 06:22:59 PM
Who is Mac and what is ASIP? I didn't notice any big cameo appearances in ep 3

one of the main guys in it's always sunny in philadelphia

he's the white dude that goes with kate and jin to track sawyer


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on February 11, 2010, 06:33:14 PM
Who is Mac and what is ASIP? I didn't notice any big cameo appearances in ep 3

one of the main guys in it's always sunny in philadelphia

he's the white dude that goes with kate and jin to track sawyer

shhh, I was trying to rack my brains for an American show with 4 letters starting with ASIP. Never seen it before so would never have guessed that. Is he the young White guy that goes with Kate to find sawyer?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 11, 2010, 06:34:39 PM
Who is Mac and what is ASIP? I didn't notice any big cameo appearances in ep 3

one of the main guys in it's always sunny in philadelphia

he's the white dude that goes with kate and jin to track sawyer

shhh, I was trying to rack my brains for an American show with 4 letters starting with ASIP. Never seen it before so would never have guessed that. Is he the young White guy that goes with Kate to find sawyer?

maybe


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on February 11, 2010, 06:35:24 PM
Lol clearly I didn't read that second line in your post gatso.

I'm sure I've seen that actor in other shows tho, I did recognise him when he went with kate


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 11, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
Who's the chap who told Jacob he wanted to kill him sat on the beach at the end of season 5?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on February 11, 2010, 06:53:02 PM
Who's the chap who told Jacob he wanted to kill him sat on the beach at the end of season 5?

his nemesis, some say it's his brother, but not sure yet.

We do know he was the black smoke all along and now posesses john locke's body

......and possibly Claires and jacks dad at some point


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 11, 2010, 06:58:23 PM
apparently he had a different voice, i didn't notice it myself

presumably this was just wrong? I certainly can't hear any difference after a whole ep of him talking


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on February 17, 2010, 12:24:57 PM
Gah! Lost pulls its usual trick of having me look forward to a Claire episode but instead completely ignores that part of the story and focuses on Locke instead lol

Still interested to see where they're going with these alt timeline stories.

Oh, and how do Sawyer and Locke get back up that cliff now? :)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on February 17, 2010, 01:20:46 PM
Gah! Lost pulls its usual trick of having me look forward to a Claire episode but instead completely ignores that part of the story and focuses on Locke instead lol

Still interested to see where they're going with these alt timeline stories.

Oh, and how do Sawyer and Locke get back up that cliff now? :)

Yeah, this tilted me too. But guess we'll find out about Claire next week.

Sawyers com, just following around [  ] Locke even though he knows its not him.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on February 17, 2010, 04:11:04 PM
Quote
Oh, and how do Sawyer and Locke get back up that cliff now?

yeah if only one of them was able to turn into a load of black smoke or something... ;)





Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on February 18, 2010, 03:43:38 PM
On the subject of [ ] Locke I have a feeling there's more to this than the other guy simply taking on his appearance.

My main reason for thinking this is that I think these alt timeline storylines are going to tie into the on island storylines in some way in the future. If [ x ] Locke is truly dead and gone then I find it strange that we're being given Locke's alt timeline story. My suspision is that [ x ] Locke == [ ] Locke in some way, esp given the "don't tell me what I can't do" that both alt Locke and [ ] Locke were using in this ep.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 18, 2010, 03:49:37 PM
My suspision is that [ x ] Locke == [ ] Locke in some way.

= me baffled.


lol @ Locke ramping out of his car!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: LeKnave on February 19, 2010, 09:59:24 AM
Sawyers com, just following around [  ] Locke even though he knows its not him.

haha yeah


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on February 19, 2010, 11:12:26 AM
Some people have far too much time on their hands lol

I found this interesting though..


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2i0VLGPFto


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 19, 2010, 04:38:42 PM
omg, just dawned on me that the guy who was bugging me in the flashbacks is Dr Artz, the guy who got blown up by dynamite!!!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 19, 2010, 04:50:56 PM
omg, just dawned on me that the guy who was bugging me in the flashbacks is Dr Artz, the guy who got blown up by dynamite!!!

one of the best scenes ever on tv


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Royal Flush on February 24, 2010, 06:59:07 AM
Just realised the numbers next to the charecters names in the Cave/Lighthouse are 'the numbers' 4 8 15 16 23 42


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on February 24, 2010, 10:13:55 AM
Just realised the numbers next to the charecters names in the Cave/Lighthouse are 'the numbers' 4 8 15 16 23 42

(http://blog.internetnews.com/apatrizio/orly_owl.jpg)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on February 24, 2010, 10:15:18 AM
Claires very com in latest episode.

'thats not John, this is my friend'


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on February 24, 2010, 11:33:37 AM
Just realised the numbers next to the charecters names in the Cave/Lighthouse are 'the numbers' 4 8 15 16 23 42

(http://brainshavings.com/images/facepalm.jpg)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on February 24, 2010, 11:34:12 AM
Claire's back, yay :D

And she's took a lesson in psycho lol. Jin was clearly terrified.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 24, 2010, 07:30:10 PM
hurley was com in this ep. had some great lines. that + crazy claire = good episode

wtf's the appendix scar all about?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 25, 2010, 12:16:43 PM
wtf's the appendix scar all about?

Juliet took out Jacks appendix at the end of season 4.  It was possibly '1977' at the time on the Island, which roughly translates as when Jack would have been 7/8 in the parallel universe...


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: mondatoo on February 25, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
Lost is good but I'll be glad when it's finished,it just confuses the fk outta me after every episode.Endings obv going to be a let down as well.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on February 26, 2010, 11:26:23 AM
Lost is good but I'll be glad when it's finished,it just confuses the fk outta me after every episode.Endings obv going to be a let down as well.

+1 for being confused after every episode
-1 for calling for an end to Lost
-1 for implying the finale will be a let down!

You have scored a -1 on this post I'm afraid


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on February 26, 2010, 11:31:17 AM
wtf's the appendix scar all about?

Juliet took out Jacks appendix at the end of season 4.  It was possibly '1977' at the time on the Island, which roughly translates as when Jack would have been 7/8 in the parallel universe...

I like your thinking but surley not, as this senario would mean Jack would have to stay on the island and have pump a kid out of a woman in early 1990's to have a 15/16 year old son in the other world?

Although this would be typical of Lost to do something like this.

It is now apparent that the worlds are connect however, as why wouldn't Jack remember his scar if they weren't connected!

FML!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 26, 2010, 02:51:54 PM

It is now apparent that the worlds are connect however, as why wouldn't Jack remember his scar if they weren't connected!


we surely knew this from the moment the lax world was introduced as jack recognised people on the plane


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 26, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
In the real world David's mum is Juliet & Sawyer his step-dad.  Discuss.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on February 27, 2010, 12:55:11 AM
Is Lost based on a true story?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on February 27, 2010, 01:03:39 AM
Is Lost based on a true story?

yes but it hasn't happened yet


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: mondatoo on February 27, 2010, 01:59:09 AM
Lost is good but I'll be glad when it's finished,it just confuses the fk outta me after every episode.Endings obv going to be a let down as well.

+1 for being confused after every episode
-1 for calling for an end to Lost
-1 for implying the finale will be a let down!

You have scored a -1 on this post I'm afraid

Would you prefer to not have a clue what the hell's going on for another five series and watch the writers make up utter bs that nobody can confront since they haven't got a clue wtf is happening.

Do you really think the ending will live up to people's expectations,very unlikely

If it's purgatory then this will literally be the worst tv prog ever,FACT


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: maldini32 on February 27, 2010, 05:13:10 AM
Lost is good but I'll be glad when it's finished,it just confuses the fk outta me after every episode.Endings obv going to be a let down as well.

+1 for being confused after every episode
-1 for calling for an end to Lost
-1 for implying the finale will be a let down!

You have scored a -1 on this post I'm afraid

Would you prefer to not have a clue what the hell's going on for another five series and watch the writers make up utter bs that nobody can confront since they haven't got a clue wtf is happening.

Do you really think the ending will live up to people's expectations,very unlikely

If it's purgatory then this will literally be the worst tv prog ever,FACT

Its not purgatory, and its the greatest show ive ever watched in my life.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Horneris on February 27, 2010, 06:01:24 AM
Lost is good but I'll be glad when it's finished,it just confuses the fk outta me after every episode.Endings obv going to be a let down as well.

+1 for being confused after every episode
-1 for calling for an end to Lost
-1 for implying the finale will be a let down!

You have scored a -1 on this post I'm afraid

Would you prefer to not have a clue what the hell's going on for another five series and watch the writers make up utter bs that nobody can confront since they haven't got a clue wtf is happening.

Do you really think the ending will live up to people's expectations,very unlikely

If it's purgatory then this will literally be the worst tv prog ever,FACT

Its not purgatory, and its the greatest show ive ever watched in my life.

+1 on both of those. So +2.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on February 27, 2010, 10:39:53 AM
Jack is so tilting. I'm sure weirder things have happened on the island but he just flips out. I'd trust Hurley.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: maldini32 on March 02, 2010, 07:15:04 PM
http://www.thefourtoedfoot.com/


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 03, 2010, 09:26:17 AM
Episode 6:

http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/2157778/6201776/ (http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/2157778/6201776/)

only available torrent at present, not an HD copy but still excellent TV quality.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on March 03, 2010, 01:19:45 PM
Best ep of the season so far.

Claire is still psycho :D


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 03, 2010, 01:42:11 PM
Best ep of the season so far.

Claire is still psycho :D

you talking about episode 6 from last night?

Started the download before I left for work this morning, so not seen it yet but It should be done for me coming home, barring Talk Talk's terrible download speeds!!!

The story of claire better be excellent, as it's our main source into the workings of th island/smoke monster etc!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 04, 2010, 09:25:11 AM
Sayid's evil!

How can they wrap things up from here in 12 episodes?!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 04, 2010, 10:10:04 AM
Here's food for thought.

''The only thing I ever cared about died in my arms''



All the flashbacks make it obvious they want you to think of Nadia.

But, who else died in his arms, Shannon.  And she's due to appear any episode now.

You heard it hear first.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 05, 2010, 10:53:01 AM
What an episode!

I Love Sayid, and Locke's army looks almost complete now!

The rest of the season is going to be Epic!

Were the hell is Sawyer???


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Horneris on March 05, 2010, 12:43:50 PM
Were the hell is Sawyer???

Good Question.

Wandering through the jungle aimlessly with Richard?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 05, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
possibly the best ep yet. I'm now less worried that this season is going to be anything other than epic


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 05, 2010, 04:25:19 PM
Were the hell is Sawyer???

Good Question.

Wandering through the jungle aimlessly with Richard?

last we seen him was in the cave with th names on the roof!

This is my only complaint about season 6, the episodes don't connect, each story has a 1 or 2 episode gap before we return to it. Keeps you on your toes I suppose.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on March 05, 2010, 10:33:18 PM
Best episode ever.

Sawyer to be the key.

Guy that was evil in the past must turn good to join Jack and save them all.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on March 06, 2010, 01:48:06 AM
Were the hell is Sawyer???

Good Question.

Wandering through the jungle aimlessly with Richard?

last we seen him was in the cave with th names on the roof!

This is my only complaint about seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, the episodes don't connect, each story has a 1 or 2 episode gap before we return to it. Keeps you on your toes I suppose.

fyp


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on March 10, 2010, 04:49:30 AM
incred. We just need Sawyer, Kate and Jin back on the beach and we are back where we started!

And Claire and Sayid of course.


Not really sure what Widmore is going to do, but should be good next week.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on March 10, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Surely Dr Linus should just add sending Alex's recomendation letter to his list of demands? Or just wait til it's been sent then confront him with the emails again. I know the whole point was to mirrior the previous choice of choosing between himself and Alex but this situation seemed a little odd.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on March 10, 2010, 06:21:29 PM
Surely Dr Linus should just add sending Alex's recomendation letter to his list of demands? Or just wait til it's been sent then confront him with the emails again. I know the whole point was to mirrior the previous choice of choosing between himself and Alex but this situation seemed a little odd.

I thought the exact same, weird.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 11, 2010, 08:53:19 AM
I guess the principle could withdraw his recommendation at any time and is much more likely to do so if he's not got a job to lose so linus needs to play along at least until alex starts college


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 11, 2010, 09:27:59 AM
As far as best characters go, top 5, fair to say:

Locke>>>Ben>>>Hurley>>>Sawyer>>>Sayid

?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 11, 2010, 09:40:22 AM
can anyone answer/explain these points to me?

1.  Is Desmond going to be on the sub?  How else will he to the island?

2.  Nikki & Paulo get a mention, but no Walt?!

3.  Is Miles a thief?  Did I see a quick flash of him holding one of the '$8mil diamonds'?



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 11, 2010, 02:25:37 PM

3.  Is Miles a thief?  Did I see a quick flash of him holding one of the '$8mil diamonds'?


you did indeed. only saw one but he's definitely been graverobbing


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 11, 2010, 03:09:46 PM
can anyone answer/explain these points to me?

1.  Is Desmond going to be on the sub?  How else will he to the island?

2.  Nikki & Paulo get a mention, but no Walt?!

3.  Is Miles a thief?  Did I see a quick flash of him holding one of the '$8mil diamonds'?



1/ I hope so, but can't see it that way, as whitmore told him to take penny away from all this.

2/ michael has signed up to re appear in season 6, so no doubt Walt will be mentioned a few times to come.

3/ damn right he has robbed them, I'd do the same for my months of trouble I've had to struggle in that island.


I wish I was a survivor of 815!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 11, 2010, 03:11:36 PM
given up on waiting for sky to air the eps dave?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 11, 2010, 03:14:14 PM
given up on waiting for sky to air the eps dave?

yes cos my mates who o talk to about it downloads it and annoys me by saying shit that happened just to fuck my life up!

So now I download it and watch it on a Wednesday when he is still on the back shift and text him what happened at the end of the episode!!

Fuck him!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 12, 2010, 09:55:57 AM

3.  Is Miles a thief?  Did I see a quick flash of him holding one of the '$8mil diamonds'?


you did indeed. only saw one but he's definitely been graverobbing

Did we ever find out why he wanted 'exactly' $3.2million?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: smileriraq on March 12, 2010, 06:16:10 PM
probably had a bad run at the poker tables and needs to pay off his debt


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on March 12, 2010, 08:18:02 PM
Quote
double what Widmore offered him

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Miles_Straume


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: dino1980 on March 13, 2010, 07:50:03 AM
I recently decided to get back into Lost after watching the first series and then not being able to watch most of the second season as it moved to Sky. I finished watching season five a couple of nights ago and obviously want to start watching season six. But, I don't have satellite/cable so I'm now faced with the decision to either wait till it comes out on boxset or stream/download it somewhere. So I was wondering if anyone knew of any decent links to watch or download online? If so cold someone please PM me as I don't want to check back here for spoiler reasons.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on March 17, 2010, 03:22:29 PM
I wish they could put guest star credits at the end of an episode. Spoiled the fact that Charlotte (:D :D :D :D) was going to be in it.

Ep as a whole felt a bit slow. Guess it was just building up the fact that we have a fight between []Locke and Widmore coming up.

It had Charlotte in tho so that saves it.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 18, 2010, 10:56:28 AM
interesting episode. most of the oceanic survivors in the lax timeline have had lives you'd expect. sawyer as a cop was a complete surprise to me though


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 22, 2010, 10:40:06 AM
I am so sick of waiting for the next ep. just wanna see the lot in one go now


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 22, 2010, 10:55:19 AM
I am so sick of waiting for the next ep. just wanna see the lot in one go now

DEF, who haven't we seen in flashbacks yet?

Sun?
Desmond?
Libby?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 22, 2010, 11:01:32 AM
we don't know where desmond is in either world do we? he's gotta have an episode soon


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: pokerfan on March 22, 2010, 11:08:39 AM
we don't know where desmond is in either world do we? he's gotta have an episode soon
Got a glimpse of him in Jacks episode. (On the plane btw)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 22, 2010, 11:24:04 AM
The next 4 episdoes are centric too:

9 - Richard
10 - Sun & Jin
11 - Desmond
12 - Hurley


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 22, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
The next 4 episdoes are centric too:

9 - Richard
10 - Sun & Jin
11 - Desmond
12 - Hurley

Sun and Jin episodes suck, looking forward to more of Desmond and Richard though.

Any idea when the official final episode will air on sky 1? My mate who I have seen every single episode with is preggers and I have a horrible feeling she will go into labour for the finale.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 22, 2010, 11:33:36 AM
The next 4 episdoes are centric too:

9 - Richard
10 - Sun & Jin
11 - Desmond
12 - Hurley

Sun and Jin episodes suck, looking forward to more of Desmond and Richard though.

Any idea when the official final episode will air on sky 1? My mate who I have seen every single episode with is preggers and I have a horrible feeling she will go into labour for the finale.

Scheduled for Friday 28th May, bank hol weekend...


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: maldini32 on March 24, 2010, 01:56:49 AM
Just watched the latest episode...just WOW!

Gonna be truly gutted when it finishes.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on March 24, 2010, 09:35:38 AM
The next 4 episdoes are centric too:

9 - Richard
10 - Sun & Jin
11 - Desmond
12 - Hurley

Sun and Jin episodes suck, looking forward to more of Desmond and Richard though.

Any idea when the official final episode will air on sky 1? My mate who I have seen every single episode with is preggers and I have a horrible feeling she will go into labour for the finale.

Scheduled for Friday 28th May, blonde bash weekend...

FYP. that's the Friday night entertainment sorted.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on March 25, 2010, 12:36:17 AM
Just watched the latest episode...just WOW!

Gonna be truly gutted when it finishes.

Couldn't agree more, absolutely fantastic episode.... and we even got a few answers :D 


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on March 25, 2010, 12:44:24 AM
link pls.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 25, 2010, 09:13:54 AM
I swear I saw Linekar's bar in the background...


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 25, 2010, 10:09:00 AM
I wonder if they're struggling to fit everything in. this ep was 4 1/2 minutes longer than normal

maybe someone could let them know that if it's a problem I don't mind them doing another series rather than cramming it all in


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 25, 2010, 10:28:36 AM
I wonder if they're struggling to fit everything in. this ep was 4 1/2 minutes longer than normal

maybe someone could let them know that if it's a problem I don't mind them doing another series rather than cramming it all in

What has Tenerife & that small bottle he stole off the doc to do with anything?  Nothing probs


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 25, 2010, 10:46:14 AM
and I thought I was a bit of a lost geek, got nothing on these posters, they dont forget shit!  :D

If you have an hour of your life which you'll never get back...

http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=123083


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 25, 2010, 10:48:12 AM
I have an hour to waste but the link doesn't work


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 25, 2010, 10:52:56 AM
I have an hour to waste but the link doesn't work

Not sure why, but you have to click on the bit which displays the website at the top (the bit you type into) and press enter and it works


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: mondatoo on March 25, 2010, 01:26:50 PM
Last two eps have been best yet imo,got to admit I'm enjoying Lost more than 24 at the minute.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 25, 2010, 02:33:22 PM
I have an hour to waste but the link doesn't work

Not sure why, but you have to click on the bit where the displays the website at the top (the bit you type into) and press ebter and it works

gotcha. that's just weird

the hour I had to kill has gone so I'll check this later


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 25, 2010, 11:10:18 PM
Just watched the latest episode...just WOW!

Gonna be truly gutted when it finishes.

Couldn't agree more, absolutely fantastic episode.... and we even got a few answers :D 

Ill crack the jokes!!1


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on March 26, 2010, 04:57:00 AM
wow.

that episode is pretty much the reason i still watch lost. in fact, that is pretty much why i watch tv. just sososososo toastily good.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: KarmaDope on March 26, 2010, 01:49:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBaLXQUHIS8

rotflmfao

(not a S-6 spoiler, just funny. Obv spoiler for those who have just started watching Lost)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 26, 2010, 02:23:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBaLXQUHIS8

rotflmfao

(not a S-6 spoiler, just funny. Obv spoiler for those who have just started watching Lost)

are you sure that's the video you meant to post? It's only 8 seconds long!

If it is the video you meant to post then I don't get it? Am I missing something?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: KarmaDope on March 26, 2010, 03:17:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBaLXQUHIS8

rotflmfao

(not a S-6 spoiler, just funny. Obv spoiler for those who have just started watching Lost)

are you sure that's the video you meant to post? It's only 8 seconds long!

If it is the video you meant to post then I don't get it? Am I missing something?

Yes.

Yes. You never played Sonic as a kid then, huh?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on March 26, 2010, 04:03:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBaLXQUHIS8

rotflmfao

(not a S-6 spoiler, just funny. Obv spoiler for those who have just started watching Lost)

are you sure that's the video you meant to post? It's only 8 seconds long!

If it is the video you meant to post then I don't get it? Am I missing something?

Yes.

Yes. You never played Sonic as a kid then, huh?

lol quality vid. shame it's missing the end bit tho where the music goes silent for a second then you hear the drowning noise


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 26, 2010, 05:19:11 PM
and I thought I was a bit of a lost geek, got nothing on these posters, they dont forget shit!  :D

If you have an hour of your life which you'll never get back...

http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=123083

you're not wrong. just started on this, only read page 1 and already I'm a bit scared by the people posting. they must've watchhed every episode a million times


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 26, 2010, 06:19:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBaLXQUHIS8

rotflmfao

(not a S-6 spoiler, just funny. Obv spoiler for those who have just started watching Lost)

are you sure that's the video you meant to post? It's only 8 seconds long!

If it is the video you meant to post then I don't get it? Am I missing something?

Yes.

Yes. You never played Sonic as a kid then, huh?

All the time but i dont remember that tune from the game.

Even if i did tho, i doubt id find that funny, i cried when charlie died!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: sledge13 on March 28, 2010, 02:18:22 AM
Please...as I have asked b4, what happened with the fat guy getting fatter? was it Mcd's or Burger King on the island, or some amazing time warp like the brilliant writers decided to omit?

This shit is nearly as bad as Twin Peaks was!!!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on March 28, 2010, 02:51:42 AM
Please...as I have asked b4, what happened with the fat guy getting fatter? was it Mcd's or Burger King on the island, or some amazing time warp like the brilliant writers decided to omit?

This shit is nearly as bad as Twin Peaks was!!!

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjIm_5LR5yE


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on March 28, 2010, 08:31:38 PM
Please...as I have asked b4, what happened with the fat guy getting fatter? was it Mcd's or Burger King on the island, or some amazing time warp like the brilliant writers decided to omit?

This shit is nearly as bad as Twin Peaks was!!!

You can always piss off and not post or read this thread if you dislike Lost so much


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on March 28, 2010, 08:33:29 PM
maybe he was played by an actor and the actor got fatter between series. just a thought


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 28, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
There was actually an explanation for it if Sledge actually cares. First of all a few weeks in, Hurley found a massive pantry of Dharma Initiative food which he hid a huge stash of. The Hurley you see now had then spent three years off the Island where he could eat what he wanted, then he returned to the Island (and went back in time) to the 70s where there was a fully established Dharma Initative commune with plenty of food. That pretty much brings us to now, Hurley rarely went more than a week or two without a reasonable or plentiful supply of food.

Hope that helps Sledge, probably should stick to slagging off and pointing out plot holes in programmes you actually watch  ;)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: pokerfan on March 28, 2010, 08:42:17 PM
S1 (http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/hurley-picture.jpg)
S6 promo pic (http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9300000/Hurley-Season-6-Promo-lost-9367970-480-640.jpg)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: sledge13 on March 28, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
There was actually an explanation for it if Sledge actually cares. First of all a few weeks in, Hurley found a massive pantry of Dharma Initiative food which he hid a huge stash of. The Hurley you see now had then spent three years off the Island where he could eat what he wanted, then he returned to the Island (and went back in time) to the 70s where there was a fully established Dharma Initative commune with plenty of food. That pretty much brings us to now, Hurley rarely went more than a week or two without a reasonable or plentiful supply of food.

Hope that helps Sledge, probably should stick to slagging off and pointing out plot holes in programmes you actually watch  ;)

Thanks Dave, ahh and time travel...brilliant!

Lol at the pics Pokerfan, tbf he was fatter at the beginning!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: The Baron on March 28, 2010, 11:56:35 PM
I am a convert. After 5.5 series in 4 weeks I'm hooked.

Pretty bored of 24 tbh although 1-5 was redic good.

Flushy, was TWW that good? Loved Sopranos.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Royal Flush on March 29, 2010, 05:42:13 PM
Flushy, was TWW that good? Loved Sopranos.

Probably the best.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 29, 2010, 06:05:43 PM
whats TWW?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 29, 2010, 06:06:24 PM
whats TWW?

Oh is it The West Wing?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on March 29, 2010, 06:10:00 PM

My old housemate bought the complete box set of that. Didn't see him for a few weeks.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on April 02, 2010, 06:39:37 AM
Sun and Jin episodes suck



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 02, 2010, 11:00:38 AM
Eyepatch!!!!!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on April 02, 2010, 11:33:06 AM
The ending was brilliant though brother


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on April 02, 2010, 11:44:48 AM
The ending was brilliant though brother

true dat

luckily the sun/jin flashsideways were quite limited so the whole episode wasn't boring


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on April 04, 2010, 02:30:01 PM
Eyepatch!!!!!

Clocked that also, I did have to explain it to the bird tho!

Standard Episode, at least Desmond Bhoy 'The Celt' is back!!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: The Baron on April 07, 2010, 04:06:50 AM
Eyepatch!!!!!

Clocked that also, I did have to explain it to the bird tho!

Standard Episode, at least Desmond Bhoy 'The Celt' is back!!

When he was hammered in the monestary wasn't he singing an Everton song? ("It's a grand old team to play for...")


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 07, 2010, 09:54:51 AM
Desmond episode tonight...   ;kev;

Brief, semi spoiler...

After being exposed to electromagnetic energy by Charles Widmore, Desmond experiences his life in the flash sideways: he works for Widmore and eventually remembers his relationship with Penny and seeks her out.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on April 07, 2010, 10:41:38 AM
cool episode brutha



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on April 07, 2010, 10:53:07 AM
driver was the sick guy on the freighter, was bugging me couldn't place him, looks like DN



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on April 07, 2010, 11:42:27 AM
abs fucking superb episode yet again


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on April 07, 2010, 11:51:36 AM
abs fucking superb episode yet again

+1


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on April 07, 2010, 12:26:43 PM
spoilers for the end all over the internet now, this thread is for people who watch it a few days early not for anything more than that right? 


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on April 07, 2010, 12:29:38 PM
spoilers for the end all over the internet now, this thread is for people who watch it a few days early not for anything more than that right? 

yeah, up to latest ep aired in US

so wouldn't the massive electomagnetic field have wiped out the cctv camera rather than just turning the signal to static for the time it was on?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 08, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
Are people really allowed to run up and down the stairs in stadiums?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on April 08, 2010, 11:37:15 AM
Are people really allowed to run up and down the stairs in stadiums?

yeah, it's fairly common in the states I think


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on April 10, 2010, 12:35:23 PM
abs fucking superb episode yet again

+1

I think that might just have been the best episode yet.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: mondatoo on April 10, 2010, 01:34:29 PM
Did something major happened that I totally missed or is it just that Desmond didn't die and thus could save them all,this has been by far the best series but god is it a struggle,for me.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on April 14, 2010, 08:59:56 AM
omg, just dawned on me that the guy who was bugging me in the flashbacks is Dr Artz, the guy who got blown up by dynamite!!!

one of the best scenes ever on tv

so good they decided to do it again





Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on April 14, 2010, 12:57:03 PM
omg, just dawned on me that the guy who was bugging me in the flashbacks is Dr Artz, the guy who got blown up by dynamite!!!

one of the best scenes ever on tv

so good they decided to do it again


aye :D and so awesomely too


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 15, 2010, 01:58:34 AM
Hurley for mod.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 15, 2010, 12:15:28 PM
Who was the kid that Desmond saw?

Is Des trying to reunite Locke with Jack is the 'alt' to get him to remember?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on April 18, 2010, 01:07:26 AM
Who was the kid that Desmond saw?

Is Des trying to reunite Locke with Jack is the 'alt' to get him to remember?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on April 21, 2010, 02:20:34 PM
It's getting interesting :)

I'm assuming Desmond is dead... to me it looked like they tried to make it look like sayid didn't do it. Which makes me think he did.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: RaisyDaisy86 on April 22, 2010, 10:24:56 AM
It's getting interesting :)

I'm assuming Desmond is dead... to me it looked like they tried to make it look like sayid didn't do it. Which makes me think he did.
If there is one thing that I have learnt from Lost its that no one is dead unless you actually see them get killed and buried at the original beach camp. Jin, yh we saw the ship blow up but did we see him floating lifeless in the water or blown up in to a hundred pieces


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 22, 2010, 10:27:59 AM
Desmond certainly not dead...  He's the main player...

I actually didn't think last night was the best episode, looked like a 'filler' to me, nothing key there...


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: RaisyDaisy86 on April 22, 2010, 10:29:08 AM
Definate filler all built upto cliffhanger for a 1 week break. Was a poor cliffhanger as well


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 22, 2010, 10:37:08 AM
It was...

Also Locke + Sun arriving at the hospital at the same time, Locke did a hell of a lot in the 1/2 days it took Jin/Sun to get there, lazy writing...


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 27, 2010, 11:55:27 AM
Week off.  :(


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: maldini32 on April 27, 2010, 06:23:24 PM
Week off.  :(

norrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on April 27, 2010, 10:34:21 PM
ffs!!!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: DaveShoelace on April 28, 2010, 09:53:53 AM
Was deffo a filler episode, but it did all serve a bit of a purpose in that it showed how everything from the very start of Lost was genuinley building up to this point, even Jack seing his dad in the bushes in series 1. Also shows how clearly everyone is going to find themselves in the same boat in the alternate reality eventually.

Week off sucks ass


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on April 28, 2010, 12:34:21 PM
stupid american tv schedules


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on April 28, 2010, 12:46:44 PM
At least Glee was still on.... ;hide;


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on April 28, 2010, 12:47:43 PM
At least Glee was still on.... ;hide;

never mind the hiding - Glee is the nuts. Sue Sylvester this week was golden.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on April 28, 2010, 01:13:28 PM
At least Glee was still on.... ;hide;

never mind the hiding - Glee is the nuts. Sue Sylvester this week was golden.

gtfo of the lost thread!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on April 28, 2010, 01:34:02 PM
At least Glee was still on.... ;hide;

never mind the hiding - Glee is the nuts. Sue Sylvester this week was golden.

gtfo of the lost thread!

Lost is still #1 obv


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Horneris on May 05, 2010, 04:30:01 AM
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on May 05, 2010, 07:34:00 AM
sickkkkkk


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on May 05, 2010, 11:44:43 AM
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
OMG
sickkkkkk
This


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 05, 2010, 12:14:09 PM
I need to watch it now!  anywhere I can see it online without having to download anything?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 05, 2010, 12:16:10 PM
Holy shitballs.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on May 05, 2010, 12:20:25 PM
I need to watch it now!  anywhere I can see it online without having to download anything?

http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/66101 (http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/66101)
Not HD but i don't think you'll need to download anything to watch that


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 05, 2010, 12:22:21 PM
I need to watch it now!  anywhere I can see it online without having to download anything?

http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/66101 (http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/66101)
Not HD but i don't think you'll need to download anything to watch that

tyty


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 05, 2010, 01:00:01 PM
alternatively. www.watchloststreaming.com always have it up within hours.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 05, 2010, 02:59:17 PM

+1


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 05, 2010, 03:03:00 PM
Just read that the season finale is 2.5 hours long!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Numpty Dumpty on May 05, 2010, 05:39:22 PM
sick.

how many more episodes are there?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Horneris on May 05, 2010, 06:11:09 PM
sick.

how many more episodes are there?


4 mate. 2 normal episodes then a double ep finale.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Royal Flush on May 07, 2010, 06:35:59 AM
oh my that was absurd!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 07, 2010, 10:06:14 AM
Jack to be new Jacob, Sawyer the new MiB


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on May 07, 2010, 11:36:59 PM
Jack to be new Jacob, Sawyer the new MiB

jack to be the new Jacob, but Locke to still be MiB!

Then the whole cycle/game starts over again with new candidates picked by Jack this time!

It's a constant game played to keep MiB on the island.

If he gets all candidates to kill each other, he wins an gets to leave island, if they all die but one, that one person becomes the new Jacob and keeps MiB on island and starts the game all over again!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: redimp on May 11, 2010, 11:23:58 PM
When was the first episode of Lost shown in the uk ??
Have we really been watching it since 2004 ??


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 11, 2010, 11:29:09 PM
2005, saw it on plane back from WSOP that year, started in the UK soon after



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: redimp on May 11, 2010, 11:32:28 PM
I tried googling it... but all i came up with,was it aired in America Sept 2004
I didnt think it was that long ago
Thankyou xx


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 11, 2010, 11:40:08 PM
yeah we used to get stuff months if not years after the americans, i imagine they had to change it when we started watching them on the internet. i can't even wait 2 days, espec now you can get really good HD streams. think BT have throttled my connection this month :(



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 12, 2010, 12:41:14 PM
zomg incred

that's one dysfunctional family


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 12, 2010, 12:43:25 PM
you liked it? the internet seems to have hated it

(http://i.imgur.com/QHdWo.jpg)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on May 12, 2010, 01:06:46 PM
I don't know what explanation people wanted for everybodies extra powers but i certainly wasn't expecting a scientific one. Might find out more in the next few eps anyway.
Liked the episode but could have happily watched it another time, really wanted to know what's going on with Miles.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 12, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
I don't know what explanation people wanted for everybodies extra powers but i certainly wasn't expecting a scientific one.

yeah, this

there's people who can't die, a man who turns into a smoke monster, a couple of guys who can see/hear the dead, people coming back from the dead, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc and people are moaning because they didn't explain it with physics? they should gtfo and stick to documentaries as fiction obviously isn't for them


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 12, 2010, 01:33:00 PM
The child actors were absolutely tez.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 12, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
I don't know what explanation people wanted for everybodies extra powers but i certainly wasn't expecting a scientific one.

yeah, this

there's people who can't die, a man who turns into a smoke monster, a couple of guys who can see/hear the dead, people coming back from the dead, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc and people are moaning because they didn't explain it with physics? they should gtfo and stick to documentaries as fiction obviously isn't for them

so if they end it that it was all just a dream or they were in purgatory that would be OK cos it's fiction? don't think anyone cares about physics just want a good ending. anyway this ep and the next got relatively bad ratings from the preview audience the finale gets 9.7/10 so I shall look forward to it even tho the producers have said it will create even more questions.

 


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 12, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
I wasn't sure what to make of it.

Not bothered about the magic light explanation as tbh that's as good an explanation as we were ever going to get.

I didn't however like what it did to the characters. Jacob didn't come across as strong and mysterious as he has in the past. He looked like a boy unable to say no to his mother. And I thought the point of last weeks ep was to show that []Locke was evil. But this ep seems to want us to sympaphise with him.

hmm, bring on next week!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 12, 2010, 02:20:52 PM

so if they end it that it was all just a dream or they were in purgatory that would be OK cos it's fiction?


nah, there's a big difference between a cop out and a fictional explanation tying up loose ends (not that I expect them to tie them all up)


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Mitch on May 12, 2010, 06:07:51 PM
Worst episode for a long time. Always just waiting for something interesting to happen and it never really did.

Seems like theyve still got a lot of stuff to explain and not long left to do it.

Last episode was prob good enough to excuse the piss poorness of this one tho, and still the best show on TV. Finale is going to be epic :D


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Horneris on May 12, 2010, 06:13:14 PM
I enjoyed it but i didnt think it was brilliant.

I dont think any ending can really satisfy people who have been watching it and loving it every week for 6 years.

Dont want it to end  >:(


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: smileriraq on May 12, 2010, 08:15:16 PM
must confess im glad its ending

dont egt me wrong its been great tv but like BSG it needs an end for it to mean anything otherwise it just would drag on and any revelations would be rendered meaningless as you know theres more to come.



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 13, 2010, 12:47:52 AM
interview, no real spoilers, says if we will ever know MIB's name or who was shooting at them in the canoe.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/exclusive-interview-lost-producers-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cuse-talk-across-the-sea


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 14, 2010, 02:30:30 PM
Fatboy done good!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1278384/Larger-life-Lost-star-Jorge-Garcia-brings-pint-sized-girlfriend-cast-party.html

lol @ Walt


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 14, 2010, 02:40:16 PM
Fatboy done good!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1278384/Larger-life-Lost-star-Jorge-Garcia-brings-pint-sized-girlfriend-cast-party.html

lol @ Walt

+10000000000


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on May 14, 2010, 04:01:30 PM
hahahaha Walt looks abs com.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 19, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
OMG


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Royal Flush on May 19, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Wasn't that great.

Finale well tee'd up though.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 19, 2010, 02:54:03 PM
Haven't seen it yet, just thought it'd give the thread a jig.  :D


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 19, 2010, 02:56:25 PM
it's def starting to look like there's an actual ending planned


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 19, 2010, 02:58:21 PM
Haven't seen it yet, just thought it'd give the thread a jig.  :D

gimme a sec to close some tables down and I'll spoil it for you ;)

thought it was good overall disappointed in whatsisnames death tho





Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 19, 2010, 03:02:04 PM
Good ep, the sideways seems to be going somewhere at last.

I'm taking it Richard is ok? For someone who can't die that'd be a pretty soft way of finishing him off.

And I'm assuming Widmore is alive. Wasn't a point made in the past that similar to Jacob/[]Locke, Ben can't kill Widmore? I might be remembering that wrong tho.

Bring on Sunday!!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 19, 2010, 03:07:07 PM
i've gone dumb, what happened to miles? thought him and widmore were escaping down a tunnel?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 19, 2010, 04:01:28 PM
i've gone dumb, what happened to miles? thought him and widmore were escaping down a tunnel?

miles went running into the jungle didn't he? Along with a radio from ben..


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: gatso on May 19, 2010, 04:12:18 PM
i've gone dumb, what happened to miles? thought him and widmore were escaping down a tunnel?

miles went running into the jungle didn't he? Along with a radio from ben..

yeah, ben took the walkie talkies from jim robinson and gave one to miles


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on May 19, 2010, 05:58:55 PM
Perfectly set up for an AMAZING finale!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: maldini32 on May 19, 2010, 08:40:45 PM
whats occuring with daniel faraday?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 19, 2010, 09:28:06 PM
whats occuring with daniel faraday?

Long gone!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 19, 2010, 09:39:20 PM
just caught up.  so torn between really looking forward to the finale, but really not wanting it to be over :(


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on May 19, 2010, 11:21:05 PM
Just realised the finale is Sunday so we only have to wait till monday am.
I would have made us wait a week if i was going to move the finale to a sunday night.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 20, 2010, 05:05:54 PM
SKY1 are to simulcast it with ABC live at 5am monday!!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 20, 2010, 05:14:35 PM
SKY1 are to simulcast it with ABC live at 5am monday!!

fanbloodytastic!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 20, 2010, 05:17:59 PM
wow and 24 finale online on tuesday, too much excitement :)

 


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Linux on May 20, 2010, 05:46:39 PM
SKY1 are to simulcast it with ABC live at 5am monday!!

The last two episodes air at 1am and 2am uk time though


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: seven2unsuited on May 20, 2010, 11:12:50 PM
SKY1 are to simulcast it with ABC live at 5am monday!!

The last two episodes air at 1am and 2am uk time though

final episode airs 5am uk time and is 2 and a half hours long.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 21, 2010, 09:25:14 AM
SKY1 are to simulcast it with ABC live at 5am monday!!

The last two episodes air at 1am and 2am uk time though

Yeah don't follow what you mean here Linux?  Like seven2 says, 5am start no?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 21, 2010, 09:30:14 AM
he means at 1am our time people in certain american time zones will be watching it, 5am better for me than 1am so i is happy



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 21, 2010, 12:15:14 PM
He might mean what they died for? Hasn't been shown in uk yet and usually wouldn't until Sunday?


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 21, 2010, 12:17:53 PM
He might mean what they died for? Hasn't been shown in uk yet and usually wouldn't until Sunday?

it's airing on sky 1 tonight.

presume he just means it isn't actually being broadcast simultaneously with the US as it'll be airing on ABC a few hours before 5am BST. 


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on May 21, 2010, 01:09:12 PM
Yeh think UK 5am is the time that the rest of world gets it. I think there are 6 countries getting it that time. Not live with America but so soon after that there is no need to stream/download as the quality will be so much better on SKY 1HD and can be watched on a bigger screen (if people have bigger TV's than laptops).


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: TheChipPrince on May 21, 2010, 01:12:05 PM
'Simulcast' surely means the exactly same time as the US (west coast at least), as a few hours may as well be days, its not simulcast.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Linux on May 21, 2010, 05:42:39 PM
Im just using the site that i normally use

http://www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat/

It has the airing times in GMT or BST



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on May 22, 2010, 08:10:19 PM
Something fun to watch in preparation for the finale

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 22, 2010, 08:34:49 PM
haha - the last one is v funny!


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on May 22, 2010, 10:44:07 PM
hahahahahahaa v good.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Joobie538 on May 23, 2010, 09:36:14 AM

Dunno if anyone has been watching these online, but this is the Fine bros take on the Lost finale :D


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeHsSmQdkzE


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: ChipRich on May 24, 2010, 07:25:53 AM
goodbye Lost :(


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on May 24, 2010, 09:12:18 AM
Perfect. Nothing more needed.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Linux on May 24, 2010, 11:49:56 AM
I feel let down a bit, might give it a rewatch though

Maybe my expectations were to much


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 24, 2010, 12:31:51 PM
just the unexplained stuff i can think of off the top of my head, 4 toes, OMG you can't let anyone else bring up your child, the others, all the egyptian stuff, pregnancy stuff, super strength ethan, special walt, alex's boyfriend being brainwashed, jack's tattoo... alt time line = purgatory = completely pointless? anyway it was a good ride

this guy is great at watching TV, (his old blog has detailed breakdowns of the imagery, parallels and all that english lit malarkey in the wire btw)

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/lost-the-end-see-you-in-the-other-life-brother


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 24, 2010, 12:44:02 PM
It was classic Lost, frustrating as usual and occasionally brilliant. Very unsatisfying.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: rossfourfive on May 24, 2010, 02:28:47 PM
Mixed feelings. Was a good ending so far as bring the characters to a close but still a load of unanswered stuff. Guess I realised a few eps ago they were never going to be able to close everything off by the end though.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 24, 2010, 02:49:38 PM
I enjoyed it. Excellent way to finish the series. Ok, we didn't get answers for everything, but I think most things have been covered throughout the series, even if you have to dig deep to find an answer. I don't think they really gave us an explanation of what the magic em light was, but I'm happy enough going with "it's a magic light".

I know half the characters are already dead but I was expecting a bit of a bloodbath. Instead, everybody lives, and we even got a couple of characters back. Ok, Richard was blatently not dead, but the last we saw of Lapidus was him getting knocked out by a door on a sinking sub.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Josedinho on May 24, 2010, 04:38:19 PM
I can understand why people may be disapointed but when watching the finale i realised that although the questions had me hooked i was now watching because of the characters. Some people wanted to know about a big egyptian statue and the temple and all sorts of other questions but at the end i didn't really care. I wanted to see things like Jack getting Hurley emotional when discussing who was meant to protect the island, Sawyer thank the Doc for everything, Desmond to survive and for some of them to actually get out of there alive. I wanted to see how happy everybody was when they could remember what they had all been through. That was enough for me. I didn't need to know anymore.
For the people that didn't enjoy it there is an extra 20mins of the finale that answers more questions but they had already gone over the time ABC had given them for the finale so couldn't fit it in.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Cf on May 24, 2010, 05:11:09 PM
Oh, also loved the fact they brought Rose and Bernard back but it was definitely an oh shit moment when you realised the dog tracks will lead []Locke straight to them.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: maldini32 on May 24, 2010, 07:07:31 PM
amazing


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 24, 2010, 07:09:37 PM
want to watch the whole thing over now


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: The-Crow on May 24, 2010, 07:50:59 PM
Great ending , but overall we learn

Don't drink dirty Pond Water

I could have told them that in Season 1



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on May 24, 2010, 08:10:44 PM
Confused.com

So basically everyone meets up there in the end when they die but not everyone has died yet?

Black Smoke was what?

Hurley and Ben looked after the island for years?

I enjoyed lost but am slightly puzzled


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Claw75 on May 24, 2010, 08:13:46 PM

So basically everyone meets up there in the end when they die but not everyone has died yet?

Hurley and Ben looked after the island for years?


presumed from the Hurley and Ben exchange that the 'parallel' plot may have actually been way in the future, after everyone had eventually popped their clogs.


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: George2Loose on May 24, 2010, 08:17:47 PM
Right so basically the alt reality was purgotory.

The island and everything that happened on it was real but they were all reunited afterward? Is that right? They all died at different points. Sawyer/Kate etc actually got off the island lived their lives and eventually they all meet up in purgatory


Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: byronkincaid on May 24, 2010, 08:44:32 PM
Right so basically the alt reality was purgotory.

The island and everything that happened on it was real but they were all reunited afterward? Is that right? They all died at different points. Sawyer/Kate etc actually got off the island lived their lives and eventually they all meet up in purgatory

yep


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Post by: byronkincaid on May 24, 2010, 08:54:21 PM
food drops!



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Post by: Cf on May 24, 2010, 10:43:56 PM
Like how George is puzzled but had it exactly right.


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Post by: maldini32 on May 24, 2010, 10:46:40 PM
Right so basically the alt reality was purgotory.

The island and everything that happened on it was real but they were all reunited afterward? Is that right? They all died at different points. Sawyer/Kate etc actually got off the island lived their lives and eventually they all meet up in purgatory

yep

So glad u guys cleared that up cos i was lost.


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Post by: DaveShoelace on May 24, 2010, 10:53:40 PM
Very satisfied with the end, very satisfied that what we saw in the last episode was roughly what they had in mind when they first started the show. All the unanswered questions were for me not particularly important anyway.

What the hell do I watch now? I've nearly caught up with 24, time for a new show.


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Post by: maldini32 on May 24, 2010, 11:08:09 PM
Very satisfied with the end, very satisfied that what we saw in the last episode was roughly what they had in mind when they first started the show. All the unanswered questions were for me not particularly important anyway.

What the hell do I watch now? I've nearly caught up with 24, time for a new show.

fringe


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Post by: maldini32 on May 24, 2010, 11:11:01 PM
what season?episode? do they try and get into the hatch.

I ask cos my m8s only seen it to that point.


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Post by: Claw75 on May 24, 2010, 11:23:11 PM
what season?episode? do they try and get into the hatch.

I ask cos my m8s only seen it to that point.

season 1 episode 19 was the one where locke and boon tried to open the hatch and found the plane


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Post by: maldini32 on May 24, 2010, 11:27:45 PM
what season?episode? do they try and get into the hatch.

I ask cos my m8s only seen it to that point.

season 1 episode 19 was the one where locke and boon tried to open the hatch and found the plane

Cheers


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Post by: George2Loose on May 24, 2010, 11:42:43 PM
what season?episode? do they try and get into the hatch.

I ask cos my m8s only seen it to that point.

lucky bastard.


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Post by: maldini32 on May 25, 2010, 12:06:49 AM
what season?episode? do they try and get into the hatch.

I ask cos my m8s only seen it to that point.

lucky bastard.

tru dat


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Post by: mondatoo on May 25, 2010, 01:12:41 AM
Pretty sure J J Abrahms(sp?) said it wasn't going to be to do with pergatory when it got leaked at the end of season 2 but wtf great ending and and amazing show different to anything ever done.


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Post by: TheChipPrince on May 25, 2010, 01:33:56 AM
Was so hoping Mr Eko would be sat in the church!


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Post by: Numpty Dumpty on May 25, 2010, 02:00:34 AM
that was awesome. and by "that" i mean the entirety of lost. as josedinho said, it's not about the details, but much more about the characters. fk the haters :)


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Post by: DaveShoelace on May 25, 2010, 07:52:21 AM
Very satisfied with the end, very satisfied that what we saw in the last episode was roughly what they had in mind when they first started the show. All the unanswered questions were for me not particularly important anyway.

What the hell do I watch now? I've nearly caught up with 24, time for a new show.

fringe

lol, I actually watch that but dont pay much attention to it. I love the Walter character and find Olivia both sexy and boring as hell. Finding it a bit formulaic though, it simply goes:

Something really cool and freaky happens that kills someone - walter comes in and makes a hypothesis - everyone tells him its impossible - it turns out to be 100% accurate - olivia saves the day in record time.


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Post by: DaveShoelace on May 25, 2010, 07:52:34 AM
Was so hoping Mr Eko would be sat in the church!


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Post by: byronkincaid on May 25, 2010, 08:32:59 AM
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291 :)



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Post by: gatso on May 25, 2010, 08:39:55 AM
the only answer that's really missing for me is a new one that's thrown up by the last ep

jacob->jack->hurley

but does

mib/smoke monster/[ ] locke->jack when jack is in the lightpool

leaving jack or maybe [ ] jack to fight with hurley and ben for a few years?


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Post by: zzBlizzardzz on May 25, 2010, 09:18:11 AM
Was so hoping Mr Eko would be sat in the church!

Yea forgot about him, he was good.


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Post by: zzBlizzardzz on May 25, 2010, 09:21:04 AM
I gave heard from back home there is a Lost spinoff called The Hunted Ones. Anyone seen it or know if it's any good?


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Post by: gatso on May 25, 2010, 09:25:27 AM
I gave heard from back home there is a Lost spinoff called The Hunted Ones. Anyone seen it or know if it's any good?

nobody who's real has seen it. it's from a stephen king novel


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Post by: gatso on May 25, 2010, 09:27:45 AM
Oh, also loved the fact they brought Rose and Bernard back

this was my fave bit. I love the idea that they got to live their lives out on the island exactly as they wanted


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Post by: Claw75 on May 25, 2010, 10:16:17 AM
Pretty sure J J Abrahms(sp?) said it wasn't going to be to do with pergatory when it got leaked at the end of season 2 but wtf great ending and and amazing show different to anything ever done.

denied that the island was purgatory iirc


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Post by: TheChipPrince on May 25, 2010, 10:20:37 AM
In Alpert's episode, did the mother of the twins appear to be on the black rock?

Or timeline way off?


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Post by: gatso on May 25, 2010, 10:25:50 AM
In Alpert's episode, did the mother of the twins appear to be on the black rock?

Or timeline way off?

nah, black rock was a slave ship and smokey killed everyone on board except richard. twins mother's ship had loads of survivors


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Post by: TheChipPrince on May 25, 2010, 10:38:39 AM
Thats one thing I would have liked more on, the mother and why.

I can live without knowing about Dharma/numbers/food drops.


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Post by: duncthehat on May 25, 2010, 12:14:24 PM
So in season 2 the writers said it is definitely not purgatory and in the end the sideways timeline was purgatory.

So watched every show of every season and was really convinced they wont go down the purgatory line will they?

What do they do - so disappointed with the end


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Post by: DaveShoelace on May 25, 2010, 12:22:36 PM
So in season 2 the writers said it is definitely not purgatory and in the end the sideways timeline was purgatory.

So watched every show of every season and was really convinced they wont go down the purgatory line will they?

What do they do - so disappointed with the end

In fairness, flash sideways only happened in the final series and the main storyline on the island stayed well away from the whole purgatory thing, I dont really think it made up a significant portion of the plot, it was just a nice way to send off the characters imo.


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Post by: gatso on May 25, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
So in season 2 the writers said it is definitely not purgatory and in the end the sideways timeline was purgatory.

So watched every show of every season and was really convinced they wont go down the purgatory line will they?

What do they do - so disappointed with the end

I don't really get being disappointed because you think they lied about where the story was going. would you have preferred it if during season 2 they just told you the ending?



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Post by: LOJ on May 25, 2010, 04:19:20 PM


it was class ending.... 


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Post by: zzBlizzardzz on May 25, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
I gave heard from back home there is a Lost spinoff called The Hunted Ones. Anyone seen it or know if it's any good?

nobody who's real has seen it. it's from a stephen king novel

Yea Under the Dome, bs is it. Oh well, Its over. Got a bit weird at times but over all was good.


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Post by: Scottish Dave on May 29, 2010, 01:26:17 PM
Very satisfied with the end, very satisfied that what we saw in the last episode was roughly what they had in mind when they first started the show. All the unanswered questions were for me not particularly important anyway.

What the hell do I watch now? I've nearly caught up with 24, time for a new show.

Californication then Entourage, or vice versa!

will not be disappointed


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Post by: The Baron on May 29, 2010, 01:56:00 PM
Just seen the Jacob backstory with his mother and the man in black. Total bollox. After the Ricardo ep and the Desmond ep, which were both incred in terms of flashes, I cannot believe this was follow up.

4 left to watch and I'm now not optimistic.


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Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 29, 2010, 04:18:26 PM
Very satisfied with the end, very satisfied that what we saw in the last episode was roughly what they had in mind when they first started the show. All the unanswered questions were for me not particularly important anyway.

What the hell do I watch now? I've nearly caught up with 24, time for a new show.

Californication then Entourage, or vice versa!

will not be disappointed

The Wire, Breaking Bad and Chuck.


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Post by: 77dave on May 29, 2010, 06:57:59 PM
didwe figure out the polar bear?


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Post by: Royal Flush on May 29, 2010, 07:20:36 PM
didwe figure out the polar bear?

Yes.


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Post by: 77dave on May 29, 2010, 08:42:11 PM
didwe figure out the polar bear?

Yes.

James with the amount of info you reveal in your answers you coul write the next series of lost


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Post by: byronkincaid on May 29, 2010, 08:59:43 PM
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polar_bears

season 3 breaking bad is amazing, anyone watching treme? might be next one for me



Title: Re: "Lost Fans" With spoilers!
Post by: Scottish Dave on May 29, 2010, 09:17:08 PM
Very satisfied with the end, very satisfied that what we saw in the last episode was roughly what they had in mind when they first started the show. All the unanswered questions were for me not particularly important anyway.

What the hell do I watch now? I've nearly caught up with 24, time for a new show.

Californication then Entourage, or vice versa!

will not be disappointed

The Wire, Breaking Bad and Chuck.

i only have 5 episodes of Californication left, then Breaking Bad is next for me!

Ive been told Party Down too, but never heard of it


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Post by: scotty2hatty on May 29, 2010, 09:40:47 PM
Prison Break > Lost


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Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2010, 01:33:06 PM
Prison Break > Lost


LOL Wtf

Prison Break should have ended after season 1


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Post by: gatso on May 30, 2010, 11:12:12 PM
Prison Break > Lost

almost as ridic as girgy's opinions on england team selection


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Post by: The Baron on June 01, 2010, 12:16:48 PM
The end was such a pile of dross! OMG how much better could that have been.

Worse than the end of Sopranos!


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Post by: gatso on June 04, 2010, 11:00:40 AM
I like this explanation of the sideways world, makes it clear why some people weren't in the church and also makes you believe that there was an ending in mind from the start rather than them just completely blagging it for 6 seasons. gonna rewatch the finale again now

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Sideways world is where it gets really cool in terms of theology and metaphysical discussion (for me at least -- because I love history/religion theories and loved all the talks in the writer's room about it). Basically what the show is proposing is that we're all linked to certain people during our lives. Call them soulmates (though it's not exactly the best word). But these people we're linked to are with us doing "the most important moments of our lives" as Christian said. These are the people we move through the universe with from lifetime to lifetime. It's loosely based in Hinduism with large doses of western religion thrown into the mix.

The conceit that the writers created, basing it off these religious philosophies, was that as a group, the Lostaways subconsciously created this "sideways" world where they exist in purgatory until they are "awakened" and find one another. Once they all find one another, they can then move on and move forward. In essence, this is the show's concept of the afterlife. According to the show, everyone creates their own "Sideways" purgatory with their "soulmates" throughout their lives and exist there until they all move on together. That's a beautiful notion. Even if you aren't religious or even spiritual, the idea that we live AND die together is deeply profound and moving.

It's a really cool and spiritual concept that fits the whole tone and subtext the show has had from the beginning. These people were SUPPOSED to be together on that plane. They were supposed to live through these events -- not JUST because of Jacob. But because that's what the universe or God (depending on how religious you wish to get) wanted to happen. The show was always about science vs faith -- and it ultimately came down on the side of faith. It answered THE core question of the series. The one question that has been at the root of every island mystery, every character back-story, every plot twist. That, by itself, is quite an accomplishment.

How much you want to extrapolate from that is up to you as the viewer. Think about season 1 when we first found the Hatch. Everyone thought that's THE answer! Whatever is down there is the answer! Then, as we discovered it was just one station of many. One link in a very long chain that kept revealing more, and more of a larger mosaic.

But the writer's took it even further this season by contrasting this Sideways "purgatory" with the Island itself. Remember when Michael appeared to Hurley, he said he was not allowed to leave the Island. Just like the MIB. He wasn't allowed into this sideways world and thus, was not afforded the opportunity to move on. Why? Because he had proven himself to be unworthy with his actions on the Island. He failed the test. The others, passed. They made it into Sideways world when they died -- some before Jack, some years later. In Hurley's case, maybe centuries later. They exist in this sideways world until they are "awakened" and they can only move on TOGETHER because they are linked. They are destined to be together for eternity. That was their destiny.

They were NOT linked to Anna Lucia, Daniel, Roussou, Alex, Miles, Lupidis, (and all the rest who weren't in the church -- basically everyone who wasn't in season 1). Yet those people exist in Sideways world. Why? Well again, here's where they leave it up to you to decide. The way I like to think about it, is that those people who were left behind in Sideways world have to find their own soulmates before they can wake up. It's possible that those links aren't people from the island but from their other life (Anna's partner, the guy she shot --- Roussou's husband, etc etc).

A lot of people have been talking about Ben and why he didn't go into the Church. And if you think of Sideways world in this way, then it gives you the answer to that very question. Ben can't move on yet because he hasn't connected with the people he needs to. It's going to be his job to awaken Roussou, Alex, Anna Lucia (maybe), Ethan, Goodspeed, his father and the rest. He has to atone for his sins more than he did by being Hurley's number two. He has to do what Hurley and Desmond did for our Lostaways with his own people. He has to help them connect. And he can only move on when all the links in his chain are ready to. Same can be said for Faraday, Charlotte, Whidmore, Hawkins etc. It's really a neat, and cool concept. At least to me.

But, from a more "behind the scenes" note: the reason Ben's not in the church, and the reason no one is in the church but for Season 1 people is because they wrote the ending to the show after writing the pilot. And never changed it. The writers always said (and many didn't believe them) that they knew their ending from the very first episode. I applaud them for that. It's pretty fantastic. Originally Ben was supposed to have a 3 episode arc and be done. But he became a big part of the show. They could have easily changed their ending and put him in the church -- but instead they problem solved it. Gave him a BRILLIANT moment with Locke outside the church ... and then that was it. I loved that. For those that wonder -- the original ending started the moment Jack walked into the church and touches the casket to Jack closing his eyes as the other plane flies away. That was always JJ's ending. And they kept it.

In the end, for me, LOST was a touchstone show that dealt with faith, the afterlife, and all these big, spiritual questions that most shows don't touch. And to me, they never once wavered from their core story -- even with all the sci-fi elements they mixed in. To walk that long and daunting of a creative tightrope and survive is simply astounding.


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Post by: byronkincaid on June 04, 2010, 11:10:27 AM
think that has been outed as a fake (as in a lost writer did not write it) this for example is totally wrong

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they wrote the ending to the show after writing the pilot. And never changed it. The writers always said (and many didn't believe them) that they knew their ending from the very first episode.


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Post by: mondatoo on June 04, 2010, 11:12:10 AM
I thought they said they wrote the ending and end of season 2


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Post by: gatso on June 04, 2010, 11:14:55 AM
yeah, it's def not from a writer as he also did some other stuff about the series as a whole with pretty big inaccuracies. but I do think the bit I've quoted is a great way of looking at the ending


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Post by: The-Crow on June 04, 2010, 11:19:40 PM
There is an enhanced last 2 episodes on ABC now , with text comments and explainations.

The geo filters not working so we can watch it as well ( click close to filter )

http://abc.go.com/watch/lost/SH559062/VD5568635/the-end-part-1---enhanced


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Post by: George2Loose on April 19, 2011, 01:58:23 AM
Miss you xxx


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Post by: leethefish on November 10, 2012, 09:22:03 AM
started watching this for third time last night on love film ....still awesome



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Post by: Cf on November 10, 2012, 09:35:36 AM
This made me chuckle.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGeASXjd0UU