Title: ROI for DoNs Post by: vegaslover on February 28, 2010, 04:40:28 PM What would be considered a good roi for DoNs at the following levels?, assuming a rake of 10%
$1 $5 $10 $20 $30 Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: gatso on February 28, 2010, 04:49:52 PM anything over 10% is good at any level. much over 15% is awesome but probs unsustainable
Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: Moskvich on February 28, 2010, 07:35:38 PM I don't really know as I don't play them, but I would have thought that a 10% ROI would be massive (ie all but unachievable) these days for games at $10+, given a 10% rake. For STTs in general it feels like 5% is the new 10%, and I guess margins in DONs must be narrower than in standard games. I'd say break-even before rakeback is probably pretty decent at anything $30+ with a 10% rake, but as I say I'm kind of just guessing.
Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: MC on February 28, 2010, 07:38:10 PM I don't really know as I don't play them, but I would have thought that a 10% ROI would be massive (ie all but unachievable) these days for games at $10+ Pretty sure you're right. I think 5% is good, especially at $20+ Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: gatso on February 28, 2010, 07:50:55 PM 10% is def achievable, it's a 60.5% winrate @ 10%juice, but only a few of the best regs will be at this level
better off playing for 5% juice when you only need 57.5% though Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: MC on February 28, 2010, 08:06:36 PM 10% is def achievable, it's a 60.5% winrate @ 10%juice, but only a few of the best regs will be at this level better off playing for 5% juice when you only need 57.5% though Think you'll find a different story if you sharkscope regs on PokerStars and such... Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: gatso on February 28, 2010, 08:16:15 PM probably but then I wouldn't be playing them on stars. until they bored me to death I played a lot of these on soft sites. the few good regs were at around 10%, then quite a few breakeven and a lot of big losers
I think the losers stay in the game and keep reloading because even the worst players are probably cashing about 40% of the time Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: vegaslover on March 01, 2010, 12:43:53 AM 10% is def achievable, it's a 60.5% winrate @ 10%juice, but only a few of the best regs will be at this level better off playing for 5% juice when you only need 57.5% though Think you'll find a different story if you sharkscope regs on PokerStars and such... I'm playing some on ipoker to clear a bonus and they are sick soft. Over a tiny sample i'm cashing around 66% of the time. The higher volume regs are very bad too. Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: TheChipPrince on March 01, 2010, 11:37:21 AM 10% is def achievable, it's a 60.5% winrate @ 10%juice, but only a few of the best regs will be at this level Think you'll find a different story if you sharkscope regs on PokerStars and such...better off playing for 5% juice when you only need 57.5% though I'm playing some on ipoker to clear a bonus and they are sick soft. Over a tiny sample i'm cashing around 66% of the time. The higher volume regs are very bad too. I disagree that these are sick soft anywhere above the $30 level. I was running at around 58/59% over a decent sample size a few months back and no regs at the $50 level were doing any better. With 55% being the exact break even point (unless your playing the $100+9 where its 54.5%) before RB, many just play these now for the RB purely Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: vegaslover on March 01, 2010, 11:53:35 AM Where does it say anything about over $30 games. OP clearly states it's the lower levels.
Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: TheChipPrince on March 01, 2010, 12:00:56 PM Where does it say anything about over $30 games. OP clearly states it's the lower levels. ok then, I mean once you get to $30+ I don't think the standard much different. Its generally the same players playing the 30/50/100's, a winrate of 57/58% at $30+ is doing well imo. Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: vegaslover on March 01, 2010, 12:17:41 PM Where does it say anything about over $30 games. OP clearly states it's the lower levels. ok then, I mean once you get to $30+ I don't think the standard much different. Its generally the same players playing the 30/50/100's, a winrate of 57/58% at $30+ is doing well imo. I was looking at the levels listed and as i'm playing pretty low, though probs still above bankroll, and it's probs worth me moving up for a smaller roi but bigger hourly. My sample way too small but running well over 20% Title: Re: ROI for DoNs Post by: gatso on March 01, 2010, 12:41:22 PM My sample way too small but running well over 20% I think we can all agree that that's not sustainable |