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Title: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Royal Flush on December 19, 2005, 05:00:59 AM
I sucked him in a beaut here!

Sadly i went out in 3rd so it was not quite the fairy tale endiing.



Multi-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
MTT Table 1 6084298-342 Holdem No Limit 3,000/6,000
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Hand Start.
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Seat 4 : Al Chervick has $64,490
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Seat 5 : Flush Royal has $126,564
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Seat 6 : gaz15 has $96,316
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Seat 7 : richcpa has $126,630
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : richcpa is the dealer.
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Al Chervick posted small blind.
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Flush Royal posted big blind.
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Game [342] started with 4 players.
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Dec 19 04:37:32] : Seat 5 : Flush Royal has 4h 7h
[Dec 19 04:37:34] : gaz15 folded.
[Dec 19 04:37:35] : richcpa folded.
[Dec 19 04:37:39] : Al Chervick called 3,000
[Dec 19 04:37:41] : Flush Royal checked.
[Dec 19 04:37:41] : Dealing flop.
[Dec 19 04:37:41] : Board cards [Jc 5c 6s]
[Dec 19 04:37:45] : Stakes: 3,000/6,000 Current level: 14 Level up in: 7 min. Break in: 19 min. Players : 4
[Dec 19 04:37:55] : Al Chervick bet 12,000
[Dec 19 04:37:58] : Flush Royal called 12,000 and raised 48,000
[Dec 19 04:38:02] : Al Chervick called 46,490 and is All-in
[Dec 19 04:38:03] : Showdown!
[Dec 19 04:38:03] : Seat 5 : Flush Royal has 4h 7h
[Dec 19 04:38:05] : Seat 4 : Al Chervick has Ad Ac
[Dec 19 04:38:05] : Seat 5 : Flush Royal has 4h 7h
[Dec 19 04:38:05] : Stakes: 3,000/6,000 Current level: 14 Level up in: 7 min. Break in: 18 min. Players : 4
[Dec 19 04:38:11] : Board cards [Jc 5c 6s 3s Kc]
[Dec 19 04:38:11] : Seat 5 : Flush Royal has 4h 7h
[Dec 19 04:38:11] : Flush Royal has Straight 76543
[Dec 19 04:38:11] : Seat 4 : Al Chervick has Ad Ac
[Dec 19 04:38:11] : Al Chervick has Pair: Aces
[Dec 19 04:38:11] : Flush Royal wins 128,980 with Straight 76543
[Dec 19 04:38:13] : gaz15 : nh
[Dec 19 04:38:16] : gaz15 : vul gg
[Dec 19 04:38:21] : Hand is over.
[Dec 19 04:38:21] : Stakes: 3,000/6,000 Current level: 14 Level up in: 6 min. Break in: 18 min. Players : 3


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Graham C on December 19, 2005, 09:15:25 AM
Someone played me with 74o on the 10k monday qualifier on crypto last night.  made me chuckle :D


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: thetank on December 19, 2005, 10:51:19 AM
Topics on Blonde this past week,

4-7 reaches the Colonies......
The joy of 47 os 
I'm a believer!
Classic example of the 4 7 
Breaking news from the ROOKIE
The story behind the ROOKIES 4/7 (true story)
Ode to Brian Wilson
and now.....The ultimate 74 guide

Over 160 posts on the subject between them under these topics alone, more on other threads, players are posting hand historys left right and centre. T-shirts are being printed as I speak, a cult seems to have been born.

I think we need a stuctured competition for said cult. Who can win the most tournament chips with the 47 in one hand say. Also, who can win the most multiples of the big blind with the 47 in a cash game. Screenshots to be saved and posted as evidence. The winner could get a t-shirt at blondebash.
So long as we all don't blow our rolls trying to win a t-shirt. :D


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 19, 2005, 10:56:45 AM
Topics on Blonde this past week,

4-7 reaches the Colonies......
The joy of 47 os 
I'm a believer!
Classic example of the 4 7 
Breaking news from the ROOKIE
The story behind the ROOKIES 4/7 (true story)
Ode to Brian Wilson
and now.....The ultimate 74 guide

Over 160 posts on the subject between them under these topics alone, more on other threads, players are posting hand historys left right and centre. T-shirts are being printed as I speak, a cult seems to have been born.

I think we need a stuctured competition for said cult. Who can win the most tournament chips with the 47 in one hand say. Also, who can win the most multiples of the big blind with the 47 in a cash game. Screenshots to be saved and posted as evidence. The winner could get a t-shirt at blondebash.
So long as we all don't blow our rolls trying to win a t-shirt. :D
Oi - the next most popular subject is the blondebash which I can't make  >:(  Could you not just announce the finalists for the 4 7 player of the year and award at a different date - when I can attend to get my prize??  :blonde:


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Ginger on December 19, 2005, 11:07:26 AM
Well if we are to be giving prizes out for 74os, then I think Flushy deserves a bonus. That's how we first met when he knocked me out of a live tourny with 74, just over a year ago  :D

Oh, and by the way, 74os has always been MMM's hand of choice, otherwise know as the "panther" lol


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 19, 2005, 11:26:45 AM
Obviously a contender for 'romantic play' of the year  8)

Tracey


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 19, 2005, 11:47:41 AM
PokerStars Game #3375729472: Tournament #16729972, Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (50/100) - 2005/12/19 - 06:28:16 (ET)
Table '16729972 1' One on One Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ykh222 (1470 in chips)
Seat 2: Dellboy64 (1530 in chips)
ykh222: posts small blind 50
Dellboy64: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dellboy64 [4d 7d]
ykh222: raises 1370 to 1470 and is all-in
Dellboy64: calls 1370
*** FLOP *** [Ts 9d 6h]
*** TURN *** [Ts 9d 6h] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 9d 6h 8s] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dellboy64: shows [4d 7d] (a straight, Six to Ten)
ykh222: shows [Ad Qh] (high card Ace)
Dellboy64 collected 2940 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2940 | Rake 0
Board [Ts 9d 6h 8s 5d]
Seat 1: ykh222 (button) (small blind) showed [Ad Qh] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: Dellboy64 (big blind) showed [4d 7d] and won (2940) with a straight, Six to Ten

Need i say more - i am a believer!!


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 19, 2005, 12:04:06 PM
and the chat box afterwards from your poor opponent?

lol


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: dan on December 20, 2005, 04:08:10 PM
Topics on Blonde this past week,

4-7 reaches the Colonies......
The joy of 47 os 
I'm a believer!
Classic example of the 4 7 
Breaking news from the ROOKIE
The story behind the ROOKIES 4/7 (true story)
Ode to Brian Wilson
and now.....The ultimate 74 guide

Over 160 posts on the subject between them under these topics alone, more on other threads, players are posting hand historys left right and centre. T-shirts are being printed as I speak, a cult seems to have been born.

I think we need a stuctured competition for said cult. Who can win the most tournament chips with the 47 in one hand say. Also, who can win the most multiples of the big blind with the 47 in a cash game. Screenshots to be saved and posted as evidence. The winner could get a t-shirt at blondebash.
So long as we all don't blow our rolls trying to win a t-shirt. :D

cant somebody merge all the threads together or make up a best of 47 thread


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 21, 2005, 05:14:03 PM
This has to be entered as the most amazing win ever - any one any idea what he had here? I really thought i was dead!

PokerStars Game #3394933935: Tournament #16827653, Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level I (20/40) - 2005/12/21 - 12:03:25 (ET)
Table '16827653 2' One on One Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Dellboy64 (2320 in chips)
Seat 2: boys78 (3680 in chips)
boys78: posts small blind 20
Dellboy64: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dellboy64 [7h 4h]
boys78: calls 20
Dellboy64: raises 80 to 120
boys78: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [6c 4c As]
Dellboy64: bets 80
boys78: calls 80
*** TURN *** [6c 4c As] [6h]
Dellboy64: checks
boys78: bets 120
Dellboy64: calls 120
*** RIVER *** [6c 4c As 6h] [Ac]
Dellboy64: checks
boys78: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dellboy64: shows [7h 4h] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
boys78: mucks hand
Dellboy64 collected 640 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 640 | Rake 0
Board [6c 4c As 6h Ac]
Seat 1: Dellboy64 (big blind) showed [7h 4h] and won (640) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 2: boys78 (button) (small blind) mucked [4s 3s]


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 05:15:28 PM
did he have  4s 3s?

just a wild guess


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dewi_cool on December 21, 2005, 05:18:50 PM
I agree with Mr End


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 05:22:07 PM
I FINALLY WON A 47 OFFSUIT HAND



Game #1140450654: Hold'em NL (US$1/US$2) - 2005/12/21 - 17:13:22 (BST)
Table "Jeanne" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: lPEN1S (US$200 in chips)
Seat 2: Joerush (US$115.50 in chips)
Seat 3: WYLSTER (US$101.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Prewie (US$215.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Myyout (US$62 in chips)
Seat 6: Helgoy (US$132 in chips)
WYLSTER: posts small blind US$1
Prewie: posts big blind US$2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Prewie [7c 4d]
Myyout: folds
Helgoy: folds
Joerush: folds
WYLSTER: folds
Returned uncalled bets US$1 to Prewie
Prewie: doesn't show hand
Prewie collects US$2 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot US$2 Main pot US$2 Rake US$0
Seat 2: Joerush (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: WYLSTER (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Prewie (big blind) collected US$2
Seat 5: Myyout folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Helgoy folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 :dd: ;karabiner; ;letsparty; ;letsparty; ;letsparty;


 ::)





Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 21, 2005, 05:26:16 PM
sorry but pathetic!  :blonde:


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dewi_cool on December 21, 2005, 05:26:52 PM
 :D


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 05:29:09 PM
I call  7s 4d my "BANKROLL KILLER"

I have never ever connected with it when I raise and simply must not believe enough.

Just call me pathetic but, Dingbell, I will celebrate such victories as they come.


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 21, 2005, 05:30:47 PM
can i just say i have learnt something today - i never knew until it was so rudely pointed out to me that you can see mucked cards after the hand has been played. I mean - how useful is that??  My online playing is going to change big time now!!


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 05:33:11 PM
can i just say i have learnt something today - i never knew until it was so rudely pointed out to me that you can see mucked cards after the hand has been played. I mean - how useful is that??  My online playing is going to change big time now!!

 :blonde:


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 21, 2005, 05:35:34 PM
1. it's Dingdell
2. its me who is pathetic for a) not knowing about hand history stuff
b)for not noticing once I had made the post that it was on the page
3) for writing half of this on the PS chat without realising and bizarrely abusing another player....... :blonde:


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: mikkyT on December 21, 2005, 05:36:20 PM
"47 is the daddy!"

i feel another t-shirt coming on...


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 05:37:17 PM
1. it's Dingdell
2. its me who is pathetic for a) not knowing about hand history stuff
b)for not noticing once I had made the post that it was on the page
3) for writing half of this on the PS chat without realising and bizarrely abusing another player....... :blonde:

DINGBELL, STOP DIGGING.


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 21, 2005, 05:40:53 PM
That thing with the hand history is great - I've just beaten trips with a flush....i never knew I was this good!!!


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 05:44:15 PM
 rotflmfao rotflmfao

stop, please  :D


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 21, 2005, 05:47:24 PM
"47 is the daddy!"

i feel another t-shirt coming on...

If I wear that on a t shirt - there will be a lot of guys sighing with relief and looking to shake 4 7's hand and congratulate him...... 8)


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 21, 2005, 05:51:49 PM
rotflmfao rotflmfao

stop, please  :D

Oi - global moderator - there should be a section telling people about things like this - how are you supposed to find out otherwise???

Internet tricks of the trade or something like that....I only found out by mistake........

I am an innocent rookie internet poker player so stop taking the Mick. I was going to take some Tiramisu to Luton tomorrow as a pre christmas nosh up but I'm considering withdrawing the pudding....it's your own fault!


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 05:58:38 PM
ok, tiramisu.....the grovelling starts here ;)


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Colchester Kev on December 21, 2005, 06:05:50 PM
Get a room ffs ;)


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Robert HM on December 21, 2005, 06:20:38 PM
Not too happy with Stars revealing mucked cards, opinions?


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 06:25:35 PM
Not too happy with Stars revealing mucked cards, opinions?

It's a bit strange, but essential free information that must help if you can use it


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Gryffles on December 21, 2005, 06:41:53 PM
Its not that strange, in most places ( non uk ), as long as someone has called a river bet you are entitled to request to see their hand and they must show it, of course thats pretty bad form, slows the game down and is annoying, so you don't see it much live, but a player is entitled to do so.

Pokerstars basically does this, "if you want to see you can", its not overt and you have to go out of your way to do it, but its a very useful tool over people, as many players live and online are unaware of this and you have a nice advantage over people as you can write more advanced notes etc.



Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2005, 07:01:53 PM
Gryffles, nice post. I meant in an online world strange.

I like the facility myself, has been a help in long sessions of cash against the same opponents on Stars.


Cheers.


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 21, 2005, 07:10:00 PM
Get a room ffs ;)

What do you think tiramisu is for goodness sake?!


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: tikay on December 21, 2005, 07:11:08 PM
A tidal wave?


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Robert HM on December 21, 2005, 07:12:18 PM
Get a room ffs ;)

What do you think tiramisu is for goodness sake?!

I am NOT going there


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Colchester Kev on December 21, 2005, 07:14:19 PM
are you sure is tiramawotsit ??


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Gryffles on December 21, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
I just busted out of a sit and go with 47, AND IT WAS SOOTED.
On the flop I had a flush draw and an open ended straight draw!
I go all in, the other guy calls and flips over AA, the turn comes an ace, not to worry, the mighty 47s will carry me through! but fate dealt me a seven on the river and out I went.

Where do we sign up to start a class action suit against Brian Wilson?

 ;tk;



Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Robert HM on December 21, 2005, 08:18:58 PM
Oh dear, you have missed the point. See the discussion on another thread, the suited 47 is nothing but an impostor out there to cause mischief. Only the 47 off is the true nuts.


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Gryffles on December 21, 2005, 08:22:35 PM
The sad thing is, pokerstove tells me I was a 52% favourite at that point ; ;


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Robert HM on December 21, 2005, 08:37:55 PM
Ouch  :D

However if it were not suited the calculation of certainty would be beyond mere mathematics. Just one of those things. Show me a Supreme Being and he will give you the worked out theory QED.


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: ifm on December 22, 2005, 12:44:33 AM
It ain't just stars that lets you see mucked hands at showdown folks.
Get poker tracker and pokerace HUD and you don't even need to dig thru the HH, it flashes it up for you.


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: wsopin07 on December 22, 2005, 01:59:55 PM
It ain't just stars that lets you see mucked hands at showdown folks.
Get poker tracker and pokerace HUD and you don't even need to dig thru the HH, it flashes it up for you.

can you send me a pm about this stuff, have never used any of it, dont know anything about it


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: wsopin07 on December 22, 2005, 02:02:21 PM
Its not that strange, in most places ( non uk ), as long as someone has called a river bet you are entitled to request to see their hand and they must show it, of course thats pretty bad form, slows the game down and is annoying, so you don't see it much live, but a player is entitled to do so.

Pokerstars basically does this, "if you want to see you can", its not overt and you have to go out of your way to do it, but its a very useful tool over people, as many players live and online are unaware of this and you have a nice advantage over people as you can write more advanced notes etc.



now what if "someone" shares online acct w/ their friends ( we swap accts and play under each others screen names) who play "tight and right" poker, do notes always help or can they be a disadvantage sometimes?????


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: Dingdell on December 22, 2005, 02:13:52 PM

now what if "someone" shares online acct w/ their friends ( we swap accts and play under each others screen names) who play "tight and right" poker, do notes always help or can they be a disadvantage sometimes?????
[/quote]

I'm not sure that's allowed - but what the heck - I'll swap accounts with you.......I'd like entry to the Deauville and Monaco comps please.  in return I'll play tight on line and confuse your enemies (although I think they are already confused)


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: matt674 on December 22, 2005, 02:20:11 PM
now what if "someone" shares online acct w/ their friends ( we swap accts and play under each others screen names) who play "tight and right" poker, do notes always help or can they be a disadvantage sometimes?????

A post made by our very own the camel....

http://www.thehendonmob.com/articles/camel/internet_poker.html


Title: Re: The ultimate 74 guide....
Post by: simonow on December 24, 2005, 02:38:07 PM
you are definately FLUSHY THE FISH    :D :D :D