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resigned from villa..breaking news

I am so happy for them.

Ashley Young to Spurs - the straw that broke the camels back it seems.

Seems a bit daft if it's just over Milner. If you're not in the champions league i don't think you can turn down that sort of money and especially if Ireland could have been part of the deal. Pocket 10mil spend 10mil and get Ireland as a natural replacement seems awesome to me.

Its so refreshing to see a manager who is not prepared to put up with interference from the board into team affairs.

Two managers to leave a club partly over the sale of Milner,wonder if Villa will suffer the same fate as we did  ;whistle;

Seriously though I do think they may well struggle this season without O'Neill plus if Milner and others leave.

I really do hope so.  ;sark;

Does anyone on here support Villa?

Dear Jim,

Please can you fix it for me to make Martin O'Neill Director of Football at Celtic.

Yours sincerely

Vince Calenti
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He has built a fantastic team at Villa and it looks like the main players are going to be sold.

Must be disheartening for a manager.

A year off and then replace Fergie at Man United is my guess at his future.

Lot of time for Martin. Made my club into something it can never be again, for example.

Never going to take any shit from anyone, and that's to be applauded I reckon


Time off, next available big job for sure.

as much as i would love it to happen, i really cant see it...

Yep i think he will take time out, but give it 10 games or so and he could be at Man City anyway...........

Steve 'AVillan' Holden posts from time to time.

BrummieBoy=Villa fan


Not a happy bunny.

So, I've seen this thread, and switched over to Sky Sports News (which I only ever normally watch on transfer deadline day).

I see v v v pretty presenter.

I do a bit of googling.

I discover she's engaged to the Peter Crouch lookalike sat next to her!

WP son, nice work there.

Yea the boy done good, she is very nice.

england manager please

Fixed that for you Vince, in for a penny in for a pound

If it's about spending money then he needs shooting for walking. He's spent a fortune in previous seasons for a club not in the Champions League and every club in the world bar one is cutting it's spending heavily.

Really? By all accounts Maureen is a shoe in after Real sack him in about 2 weeks.

My sentiments too.

Andrew, as usual, straight to the heart of every story.

Its about protecting the quality of hIs squad tho. Not selling.

I agree with this bit but he knew Milner was going weeks ago. I think it's more about not being given all of the £30m to spend, in which case it's a crazy walk out. Utd, Chelsea, and even "candy from a baby" Spurs aren't spending.

And spending cant be justified either. No CL Football income and no finish above 6th in his 4 years (with 5th highest net spend it's not like he over achieved).

Lerner has said for months how the club's spending habits would change - this cannot have been a surprise to O'Niell?

I hope it wasn't over transfer funds but if it was he's in dreamland.

I've just heard it's over Ashley Young's possible sale to Spurs in which case fair enough.

and his own reputation in the process.

If Villa sell Milner (highly likely) and Ashley Young (possible) for a combined fee of say £40m then MON would be entitled to expect at least £20 - £25m of that to reinvest in the team. If Lerner decides he's only getting £10-£15m then thats a resignation issue imo.

He said he'd quit if Young was sold without his say so,I'm guessing his threat hasn't worked out to well for him.

Why would Spurs want Young?

In this market that strategy would be in line with 90% of all clubs decisions in that scenario including Utds £80m made from Ronaldo. (Or us with Alonso or Arsenal for about the last 6 years with various!)

Fair enough on the resignation I guess but there aren't any clubs out there doing things differently except Citeh.

Proper manager, board sell players from under him he resigns, he was too good for them anyway.

Kinboshi and Baron nail this. Spent alot and never delivered Champions League football. He has to be realistic.
Over rated and obiously not up to the challenge. Villa are better off without him.

Sorry, I disagree massively with you all here.

All the players he spent big money on: Milner, Downing and Young are wirth considerably more than what he paid for them.

He turned Agbonlahor and Barry into international class players.

His teams have played very good, attractive football.

He is excellent with the press and public.

I think he is a tremendous manager.

LOL yeh ok

quality manager.

will replace fergie imo

Agree with the first bit except Downing. Buying young and English usually has the increased value effect though. (Unless you are Wenger, in which case stick to non-Brits! lol) What about Davies (£8m), Reo-Coker (£8.5m) Sidwell (£5.5m) Shorey (£4-5m) Luke Young (5m?) Cuellar (£8m?) Delph (£6m) Warnock (£8m) Collins (£5m)

Barry has been picked by 7 different England managers and Agbonlahor was on fire for England at junior level. Whilst I'm sure he helped their careers he did not turn either into anything except maybe Barry into a CM when he was widely regarded as a left sided player. (ie I love that Rafa realised Carragher was a CB but to say he wouldn't have made it but for Rafa being manager is crazy.)

I don't really subscribe to Villa playing the beautiful game either.


He's an awesome man manager and motivator but he rotated far too little (how many times without winning a game in the month of March and imploding in the last 10 games of the season?) and was sometimes tactically naive - especially versus the better managers at top 4 clubs.

I think he did a good job but did not over achieve one iota at Villa.

What about Harweood, Reo-Coker, Sidwell, Shorey, Cueller and Davies? I reckon he spent £30-35mil on these players. They're worth less than half that now.
He let Whittingham go for next to nothing and also let Cahill go for way below what he's worth now.
Villa have a net spend of 14mil  a season for the last 5 years. Where does that money come from? Does he expect the chairman to finance it with no end and no expectation of a trophy or champions league football.
He has made some good signings but i think you have to be realistic and realise that the money spent has to come from somewhere and if he doesn't get champions league then selling players for huge profit will help.
They are obviously better off without him as if he didn't relish the challange of progressing despite losing their best player than he isn't the manager people thought.
Fergie didn't walk after Ronaldo went. He relished the challange of building a team without him.

If Young has been sold by a director of football or whoever without MON being consulted then he's every right to walk. Buying and selling of players needs to be controlled completely by the manager. Directors of football are a complete waste of money and space IMO.

Even if a bid comes in that resembles more than 10-15% of the value of the club?

(ie Kaka going from £107m to £56m in 6 months because a manager said no... Ferguson getting to turn down £80m for Ronaldo when Utd are £600m in debt... Anyone believing Milner is worth close to £30m lol)

Don't forget £6 million on Zat Knight, £3 million for Habib Beye, Salifou and of course that 20 goal a season man Heskey for five million.
He bought a lot of quality English youngsters but spent greatly over the odds to get them, £12 million for an injured Downing, £12 million for Milner, £9 million+ for Young, £6 million for Delph.
Under his and Lerners stewardship over the last four years Villa have gone from being in good shape with no debts to being over £100 million in debt.
Great man manager/motivator but also had his favorites and not the best tactician.
Think were were a good fit and cant see him doing well at a so called bigger club as he doesn't like the bigger profile players, he likes players he can polish and bring through himself, might be way off there.
Very selfish on his part with his timing but I'm sure they'll be more to it coming out over the next few days. 

THIS

Which bigger profile players doesn't he like?

Great post, still can't believe how he gave up in Moscow a couple of years ago, spent a fortune following them around Europe that year.

I think we were going to struggle more this season even before todays resignation.
Still have enough to send you down in April again though. ;0)

Everything's going to be ok Big Fat Ron has just been seen driving towards Villa Park.

LOL,Huge sigh when this is how it does pan out

very much this....imho the best manager in britain

David Moyes >>> >> Martin O'Neill

You nearly had me there!  Nice try.  :D

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/sow_experts/post/DT-Exclusive-The-last-straw-for-Martin-O-Neill?urn=sow-261487

Haha good one

"O'Neill: I'm not talking about the monkey dream!"

How can you expect to compete in the future if you sell your best players to your competitors and then are unable to invest the proceeds in your own team

Don't get 100m in debt?