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Title: christianity and poker
Post by: bhoywonder on December 13, 2010, 02:51:47 AM
Are they at odds with one another?

I.e. u can't play poker and justify being a Christian

Just after having a lively debate...

I am struggling with this one...loads of this kinda question on another popular American forum

Any god fearing poker playing Christians care to share their thoughts....would be interesting to hear...

Cheers



Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: DaveShoelace on December 13, 2010, 08:22:28 AM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U91MrerZnpA

No conflict at all


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 10:47:57 AM
 :-X


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: outragous76 on December 13, 2010, 11:11:03 AM
Like most religions, the majority make it fit, whether it does or doesn't, and the remainder are fanatical *****



Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: GreekStein on December 13, 2010, 11:41:29 AM
:-X

pls keep it that way. kthx

xx


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 11:47:49 AM

Keep your nose out.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
I've come across wildly varying views tbh, I think its more down to the individual than the religion as such. My family are all strong catholics and they don't give a monkeys and have a punt now and again. On the other hand with my ex's family I couldn't even mention it with them as they were really against it.............


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2010, 02:11:02 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 02:14:33 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

There are no parts that forbid the use of condoms, giving blood or donating organs, etc., but some christian churches feel very strongly about these issues. 

Many passages of the bible talk of a god who uses genocide and supports the idea of racial superiority - playing cards shouldn't really be a problem in light of that.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: EvilPie on December 13, 2010, 02:14:49 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

Must admit that often when I gamble I feel as though something has clashed with one of my passages.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 02:16:29 PM
Don't play on the sabbath though - that'll upset Jesus.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2010, 02:20:28 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

There are no parts that forbid the use of condoms, giving blood or donating organs, etc., but some christian churches feel very strongly about these issues. 

Many passages of the bible talk of a god who uses genocide and supports the idea of racial superiority - playing cards shouldn't really be a problem in light of that.

Amen.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2010, 02:21:27 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

There are no parts that forbid the use of condoms, giving blood or donating organs, etc., but some christian churches feel very strongly about these issues. 

Many passages of the bible talk of a god who uses genocide and supports the idea of racial superiority - playing cards shouldn't really be a problem in light of that.

lol..organ donation being mentioned in the bible would be a bit unlikely, no?



Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: gatso on December 13, 2010, 02:28:52 PM
depends how seriously you take the whole anti gambling thing. do you go to the ned flanders exrtreme where you won't buy buildings insurance because it's a form of gambling?


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2010, 02:29:54 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

Must admit that often when I gamble I feel as though something has clashed with one of my passages.

^^^ Deserves more love.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2010, 02:38:32 PM
Tbh, I only think that people who are serious about being christians can give you a proper answer to this........


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2010, 02:46:04 PM
Tbh, I only think that people who are serious about being christians can give you a proper answer to this........

Really? I reckon they are probably the least qualified as they are bound to have interpreted the bible (usually in any way they see fit) whereas those who are not Christians can go with what the bible actually states.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2010, 02:50:07 PM
Tbh, I only think that people who are serious about being christians can give you a proper answer to this........

Really? I reckon they are probably the least qualified as they are bound to have interpreted the bible (usually in any way they see fit) whereas those who are not Christians can go with what the bible actually states.

If its about Chrsitianity and poker and whether they fit, how the hell can anyone who not a Christian give you a real perspective on it?


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: bhoywonder on December 13, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
I wonder if there is a degen poker room in Hell...apparently that's where I'm going...I was at a adult baptism last night....n asked the ministers views.....

He reckons its immoral n therefore a sin...n I,d have to justify myself to god...errr

I'm off to have a well done steak on the ol fire n brimstone



Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: bhoywonder on December 13, 2010, 02:58:50 PM
On a sidenote...apparently...n I,ve seen it there is a passage in the bible that talks of recognition...those that go to heaven...don't remember anything of their mortal life...no memories...no meeting deceased friends n family...

Reason being...heaven is about happiness n contentment...n it sure would spoil your eternal euphoria if u knew someone that wasn't in heaven n thus downstairs with the devil in Hell..

Possibly playing him Hu at 6 card Omaha hi/lo


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2010, 02:59:38 PM
Tbh, I only think that people who are serious about being christians can give you a proper answer to this........

Really? I reckon they are probably the least qualified as they are bound to have interpreted the bible (usually in any way they see fit) whereas those who are not Christians can go with what the bible actually states.

If its about Chrsitianity and poker and whether they fit, how the hell can anyone who not a Christian give you a real perspective on it?

But even Christians don't agree on many things and make the bible fit their own ideas/lifestyle.
In the case of poker, yeah you can see a Christian can give you their perspective on it...but their perspective might have nothing to do with what it actually states in the bible.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2010, 03:05:15 PM
Tbh, I only think that people who are serious about being christians can give you a proper answer to this........

Really? I reckon they are probably the least qualified as they are bound to have interpreted the bible (usually in any way they see fit) whereas those who are not Christians can go with what the bible actually states.

If its about Chrsitianity and poker and whether they fit, how the hell can anyone who not a Christian give you a real perspective on it?

But even Christians don't agree on many things and make the bible fit their own ideas/lifestyle.
In the case of poker, yeah you can see a Christian can give you their perspective on it...but their perspective might have nothing to do with what it actually states in the bible.


So what? Its still their perspective, that's all that matters in relation to the original question. Whether it states it or not in the bible is irrelevant............


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 03:10:14 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

There are no parts that forbid the use of condoms, giving blood or donating organs, etc., but some christian churches feel very strongly about these issues. 

Many passages of the bible talk of a god who uses genocide and supports the idea of racial superiority - playing cards shouldn't really be a problem in light of that.

lol..organ donation being mentioned in the bible would be a bit unlikely, no?



If there is a god, you'd reckon he'd have said something beyond the scientific knowledge of the time, knowing it would show is power, omnipotence, etc.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 03:10:40 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

Must admit that often when I gamble I feel as though something has clashed with one of my passages.

^^^ Deserves more love.

I'm not sure I want to show Matt's passage more love tbh.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2010, 03:16:19 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

There are no parts that forbid the use of condoms, giving blood or donating organs, etc., but some christian churches feel very strongly about these issues. 

Many passages of the bible talk of a god who uses genocide and supports the idea of racial superiority - playing cards shouldn't really be a problem in light of that.

lol..organ donation being mentioned in the bible would be a bit unlikely, no?



If there is a god, you'd reckon he'd have said something beyond the scientific knowledge of the time, knowing it would show is power, omnipotence, etc.

He might have done btu whoever wrote all the stuff done probably thought "Well, he's clearly babbling now and I can't be fecked with this shit at the moment so fuck it, I'll just write about the stuff I understand"


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 03:21:32 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

There are no parts that forbid the use of condoms, giving blood or donating organs, etc., but some christian churches feel very strongly about these issues. 

Many passages of the bible talk of a god who uses genocide and supports the idea of racial superiority - playing cards shouldn't really be a problem in light of that.

lol..organ donation being mentioned in the bible would be a bit unlikely, no?



If there is a god, you'd reckon he'd have said something beyond the scientific knowledge of the time, knowing it would show is power, omnipotence, etc.

He might have done btu whoever wrote all the stuff done probably thought "Well, he's clearly babbling now and I can't be fecked with this shit at the moment so fuck it, I'll just write about the stuff I understand"

Nah, can't be that.  It's god's word.  Says so in the bible.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2010, 03:25:49 PM
There is no part of the bible that states that gambling is illegal or immoral.

But there are obviously many aspects of gambling that clash with certain passages.

There are no parts that forbid the use of condoms, giving blood or donating organs, etc., but some christian churches feel very strongly about these issues. 

Many passages of the bible talk of a god who uses genocide and supports the idea of racial superiority - playing cards shouldn't really be a problem in light of that.

lol..organ donation being mentioned in the bible would be a bit unlikely, no?



If there is a god, you'd reckon he'd have said something beyond the scientific knowledge of the time, knowing it would show is power, omnipotence, etc.

He might have done btu whoever wrote all the stuff done probably thought "Well, he's clearly babbling now and I can't be fecked with this shit at the moment so fuck it, I'll just write about the stuff I understand"

Nah, can't be that.  It's god's word.  Says so in the bible.

Yeah but, you know...sometimes when you've had a long hard day/week at work you're a bit tired and just can't be fecked. I reckon that that's what happened. even god needs a nap sometimes, you know...and he hadn't invented Red Bull yet.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2010, 03:27:54 PM
This might have been an interesting thread if the usual threadfuckers hadn't got involved.......... 8)


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 03:31:33 PM
This might have been an interesting thread if the usual threadfuckers hadn't got involved.......... 8)

You, boldie and me?


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2010, 03:33:54 PM
This might have been an interesting thread if the usual threadfuckers hadn't got involved.......... 8)

You, boldie and me?

 :D


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 03:34:59 PM
As the bible is the sole work that provides the moral framework of christianity - maybe some references should be found to determine where the big fella in the sky stands on gambling.

There are some very vague references that people often use as 'evidence' that gambling is bad, but there are far more that point to the idea that god likes a bit of a flutter:

Quote from: King James Bible
Numbers 26:52-56
    And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying ... the land shall be divided by lot.

Numbers 33:54
    Ye shall divide the land by lot.

Numbers 34:13
    And Moses commanded the children of Israel, saying, This is the land which ye shall inherit by lot.

Joshua 14:2
    By lot was their inheritance, as the LORD commanded by the hand of Moses.

Joshua 18:6
    Ye shall therefore describe the land into seven parts, and bring the description hither to me, that I may cast lots for you here before the LORD our God.

Joshua 19:51
    These are the inheritances, which Eleazar the priest, and Joshua the son of Nun, and the heads of the fathers of the tribes of the children of Israel, divided for an inheritance by lot in Shiloh before the LORD.

Joshua 21:8
    And the children of Israel gave by lot unto the Levites these cities with their suburbs, as the LORD commanded by the hand of Moses.

1 Samuel 10:19-21
    Ye have said ... set a king over us. Now therefore present yourselves before the LORD by your tribes ... When Samuel had caused all the tribes of Israel to come near, the tribe of Benjamin was taken. When he had caused the tribe of Benjamin to come near by their families, the family of Matri was taken, and Saul the son of Kish was taken.

1 Chronicles 26:13-14
    And they cast lots, as well the small as the great, according to the house of their fathers, for every gate. And the lot eastward fell to Shelemiah. Then for Zechariah his son, a wise counsellor, they cast lots; and his lot came out northward.

Nehemiah 10:34
    And we cast the lots among the priests, the Levites, and the people, for the wood offering, to bring it into the house of our God.

Acts 1:23-26
    And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen.... And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Robert HM on December 13, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
.(http://www.reverendfun.com/add_toon_info.php?date=20101108&language=en)


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: china mug on December 13, 2010, 03:53:32 PM
i think you may find that the roman guards casting lots for jesuses robes while he was on the cross could have provided grounds for him to be a bit peeved with all gamblers,   just have to hope jesus realises that the decendants of the romans are todays italians and its them he should be sending a abundance of bad beat horrors to ,with a sprinkleing of miss deals when they have the nuts


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 03:57:13 PM
i think you may find that the roman guards casting lots for jesuses robes while he was on the cross could have provided grounds for him to be a bit peeved with all gamblers,   just have to hope jesus realises that the decendants of the romans are todays italians and its them he should be sending a abundance of bad beat horrors to ,with a sprinkleing of miss deals when they have the nuts

Quote from: King James again
John 19:23-24
    Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments ... and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout. They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Yes, that's the bit that's often used - but surely if the idea that Romans are bad and they gambled, and therefore gambling's a bad thing, falls down when read alongside the other examples of god and his peeps gambling?  Surely the bible and christianity can't contradict itself?


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: DMorgan on December 13, 2010, 04:01:18 PM
tbh if you're living your life based on one of the best selling novels of all time theres probably more wrong with you than the fact that you like to play poker


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 04:02:48 PM
tbh if you're living your life based on one of the best selling novels of all time theres probably more wrong with you than the fact that you like to play poker

Would Jesus 5-bet shove with air?


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: DMorgan on December 13, 2010, 04:04:04 PM
Game selection is the real issue here imo, avoid the superusers


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2010, 04:06:31 PM
Proverbs 22:26
“Don’t gamble on the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, hocking your house against a lucky chance. The time will come when you have to pay up; you’ll be left with nothing but the shirt on your back.”


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2010, 04:11:35 PM
Proverbs 22:27
"Slageth off ye not DTD lest ye be banished"


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2010, 04:20:21 PM
tbh if you're living your life based on one of the best selling novels of all time theres probably more wrong with you than the fact that you like to play poker

Would Jesus 5-bet shove with air?

and if he did, would he leave any witnessed?


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: celtic on December 13, 2010, 04:25:41 PM
Jesus would easy beat any field. He would turn the two cards he was dealt into 5000 and have a huuuuuge edge post flop.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: outragous76 on December 13, 2010, 04:34:41 PM
Proverbs 22:27
"Slageth off ye not DTD lest ye be banished"

Sigh at skipping my religious studies classes and missing these pearls!


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: outragous76 on December 13, 2010, 04:35:31 PM
tbh if you're living your life based on one of the best selling novels of all time theres probably more wrong with you than the fact that you like to play poker

Amen


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Swordpoker on December 13, 2010, 06:47:48 PM
This should settle it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knr7SUVkrPI

'Spanish Train' by Chris de Burgh


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Claw75 on December 13, 2010, 07:15:29 PM
Chris de Burgh

ban pls


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Robert HM on December 13, 2010, 07:20:04 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: bhoywonder on December 13, 2010, 07:40:11 PM
Lazurus......I raise you.......


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Robert HM on December 13, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.
;applause;


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2010, 07:57:39 PM
Lazurus......I raise you.......

Tyndale..... staking thread.......


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: titaniumbean on December 13, 2010, 08:00:16 PM
Proverbs 22:27
"Slageth off ye not DTD lest ye be banished"

weeee so awesome.


Kin pwning a thread again as usual.



And just seem Dmorgans first post above.


All I have to say coming from a what i'd call pretty dam religious Christian family, is


RELIGION ............ LOL.


It's like feel free to attempt any proof you want, oh what's that we just have to believe what you say because it makes you feel better about life, ..... ok cool.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: The-Crow on December 13, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Playing cards in Church  by Wink Martindale

The best alltime excuse for playing cards in Church, on a Sunday, during the sermon,

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgVQdBLbHs


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Claw75 on December 13, 2010, 08:46:11 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.
;applause;

let me get this right.  you are applauding your own posts?  are you sure you're well enough to be back Rob? ;)


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Robert HM on December 13, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.
;applause;

let me get this right.  you are applauding your own posts?  are you sure you're well enough to be back Rob? ;)

Obv not, I was trying to praise the Lazurus post. Not very good at this posting thing it seems.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Claw75 on December 13, 2010, 09:41:26 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.
;applause;

let me get this right.  you are applauding your own posts?  are you sure you're well enough to be back Rob? ;)

Obv not, I was trying to praise the Lazurus post. Not very good at this posting thing it seems.

well i thought it was a very good post dear. you clap away :)


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Robert HM on December 13, 2010, 09:48:20 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.
;applause;

let me get this right.  you are applauding your own posts?  are you sure you're well enough to be back Rob? ;)

Obv not, I was trying to praise the Lazurus post. Not very good at this posting thing it seems.

well i thought it was a very good post dear. you clap away :)

Thank you for your comment and the warm feeling of being totally patronised ;)


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2010, 10:02:09 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.
;applause;

let me get this right.  you are applauding your own posts?  are you sure you're well enough to be back Rob? ;)

Obv not, I was trying to praise the Lazurus post. Not very good at this posting thing it seems.

well i thought it was a very good post dear. you clap away :)

Thank you for your comment and the warm feeling of being totally patronised ;)


That smiley is going to want paying overtime soon.  :)


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Robert HM on December 13, 2010, 10:07:06 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.
;applause;

let me get this right.  you are applauding your own posts?  are you sure you're well enough to be back Rob? ;)

Obv not, I was trying to praise the Lazurus post. Not very good at this posting thing it seems.

well i thought it was a very good post dear. you clap away :)

Thank you for your comment and the warm feeling of being totally patronised ;)


That smiley is going to want paying overtime soon.  :)
It's having a rest now  ;sleep;


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2010, 10:10:57 PM
Hey Jesus, here's 2 loaves and 5 fishes, sort out the players buffet please. Oh, whilst you're at it change this water into Guinness for the ChezGer home game.
;applause;

let me get this right.  you are applauding your own posts?  are you sure you're well enough to be back Rob? ;)

Obv not, I was trying to praise the Lazurus post. Not very good at this posting thing it seems.

well i thought it was a very good post dear. you clap away :)

Thank you for your comment and the warm feeling of being totally patronised ;)


That smiley is going to want paying overtime soon.  :)
It's having a rest now  ;sleep;


::)


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: thetank on December 13, 2010, 11:29:47 PM
Supposedly poker is about keeping secrets and religion is about spreading the word.

If this is true I'm not very good at either.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: brado on December 14, 2010, 01:17:41 PM
I knelt at the Thai buddist shrine in vegas asking for a clear mind to help me play cards with a clear mind on one occassion (i think i won that tourney) and have also been bought up a strong christian and I don't really see a conflict in playing cards as long as you don't cheat, don't take advantage of the vulnerable and always show respect at the table.

I do find those who pray to God to help spike a river card a bit sickening, such as in the youtube video link on this thread, as that not is what any God should be there for. God is there to keep us from tilt imo


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: outragous76 on December 14, 2010, 02:22:31 PM
Levels upon levels right there!


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Jon MW on December 28, 2010, 10:56:15 PM
I finally got around to asking my sister about this question.

She has the equivalent of a theology degree.

She says that the bible doesn't say anything specifically about not gambling, and that as mentioned before, God and others regularly use lots to decide things.

But it does warn against excess in a few places; and in one it says that just because it is possible to do something - it doesn't mean you should

Apparantly a phrase my nieces hear frequently is, "just because you can do something, doesn't mean it is wise to do it" (or along those lines)

Anyway, it's not particularly exciting and most of it isn't even new - but she's the only person I know who's knows God better than Kinboshi so I thought I'd find out what one of the 'official' views was.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: EvilPie on December 28, 2010, 11:03:04 PM
I know a guy who's really in to religion and the meaning of the bible so I guess I could ask him for a definitive answer.

Unfortunately if I show even the slightest interest he'll try to recruit me so I'll just have to cope with not knowing.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: gatso on December 28, 2010, 11:25:12 PM
I know a guy who's really in to religion and the meaning of the bible so I guess I could ask him for a definitive answer.

Unfortunately if I show even the slightest interest he'll try to recruit me so I'll just have to cope with not knowing.

I can ask the guys who always harass me outside the tube station to pop round and have a chat with you if you want


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: The-Crow on December 28, 2010, 11:30:48 PM
In our village there's a Jehovah's Witness and I wished him " Happy Christmas "

He said he did not celebrate Christmas, he did not put up any decorations and did not give his children any presents

very Christian

Do they all feel that way


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: The-Crow on December 28, 2010, 11:37:26 PM
just googled the watchtower and they say

Holidays

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not allowed to celebrate Christmas, birthdays, Easter, Thanksgiving, or any other holidays, claiming they all have pagan roots.

Wow, wonder if Tikays a JW


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 29, 2010, 10:07:36 AM
I finally got around to asking my sister about this question.

She has the equivalent of a theology degree.

She says that the bible doesn't say anything specifically about not gambling, and that as mentioned before, God and others regularly use lots to decide things.

But it does warn against excess in a few places; and in one it says that just because it is possible to do something - it doesn't mean you should

Apparantly a phrase my nieces hear frequently is, "just because you can do something, doesn't mean it is wise to do it" (or along those lines)

Anyway, it's not particularly exciting and most of it isn't even new - but she's the only person I know who's knows God better than Kinboshi so I thought I'd find out what one of the 'official' views was.

Still wonder how people can objectively study Theology and still believe in a particular god at the end of it.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: GreekStein on December 29, 2010, 11:55:55 AM
I finally got around to asking my sister about this question.

She has the equivalent of a theology degree.

She says that the bible doesn't say anything specifically about not gambling, and that as mentioned before, God and others regularly use lots to decide things.

But it does warn against excess in a few places; and in one it says that just because it is possible to do something - it doesn't mean you should

Apparantly a phrase my nieces hear frequently is, "just because you can do something, doesn't mean it is wise to do it" (or along those lines)

Anyway, it's not particularly exciting and most of it isn't even new - but she's the only person I know who's knows God better than Kinboshi so I thought I'd find out what one of the 'official' views was.

Still wonder how people can objectively study Theology and still believe in a particular god at the end of it.

stfu bummer


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Jon MW on December 29, 2010, 12:13:21 PM
I finally got around to asking my sister about this question.

She has the equivalent of a theology degree.

She says that the bible doesn't say anything specifically about not gambling, and that as mentioned before, God and others regularly use lots to decide things.

But it does warn against excess in a few places; and in one it says that just because it is possible to do something - it doesn't mean you should

Apparantly a phrase my nieces hear frequently is, "just because you can do something, doesn't mean it is wise to do it" (or along those lines)

Anyway, it's not particularly exciting and most of it isn't even new - but she's the only person I know who's knows God better than Kinboshi so I thought I'd find out what one of the 'official' views was.

Still wonder how people can objectively study Theology and still believe in a particular god at the end of it.

lol, well I don't know how objective the curriculum is for that 3 year course.

"... equivalent to a theology degree..."

Specifically it was the qualification you need to pass before you can become an officer in the Salvation Army -  it has the academic rigour of a degree but it is possible that it's not entirely balanced


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: bhoywonder on December 29, 2010, 01:04:41 PM
In our village there's a Jehovah's Witness and I wished him " Happy Christmas "

He said he did not celebrate Christmas, he did not put up any decorations and did not give his children any presents

very Christian

Do they all feel that way

Apparently they only have limited room in their heaven....and get there by doing good deeds....sounds quite a competitive religion.....


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: bhoywonder on December 29, 2010, 01:12:13 PM
In our village there's a Jehovah's Witness and I wished him " Happy Christmas "

He said he did not celebrate Christmas, he did not put up any decorations and did not give his children any presents

very Christian

Do they all feel that way

Apparently they only have limited room in their heaven....and get there by doing good deeds....sounds quite a competitive religion.....

Oh....they also don't allow blood transfusions


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 29, 2010, 03:54:08 PM
I finally got around to asking my sister about this question.

She has the equivalent of a theology degree.

She says that the bible doesn't say anything specifically about not gambling, and that as mentioned before, God and others regularly use lots to decide things.

But it does warn against excess in a few places; and in one it says that just because it is possible to do something - it doesn't mean you should

Apparantly a phrase my nieces hear frequently is, "just because you can do something, doesn't mean it is wise to do it" (or along those lines)

Anyway, it's not particularly exciting and most of it isn't even new - but she's the only person I know who's knows God better than Kinboshi so I thought I'd find out what one of the 'official' views was.

Still wonder how people can objectively study Theology and still believe in a particular god at the end of it.

lol, well I don't know how objective the curriculum is for that 3 year course.

"... equivalent to a theology degree..."

Specifically it was the qualification you need to pass before you can become an officer in the Salvation Army -  it has the academic rigour of a degree but it is possible that it's not entirely balanced

rotflmfao

Not much palaeontology on the syllabus then :D


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Jon MW on December 29, 2010, 04:04:37 PM
I finally got around to asking my sister about this question.

She has the equivalent of a theology degree.

She says that the bible doesn't say anything specifically about not gambling, and that as mentioned before, God and others regularly use lots to decide things.

But it does warn against excess in a few places; and in one it says that just because it is possible to do something - it doesn't mean you should

Apparantly a phrase my nieces hear frequently is, "just because you can do something, doesn't mean it is wise to do it" (or along those lines)

Anyway, it's not particularly exciting and most of it isn't even new - but she's the only person I know who's knows God better than Kinboshi so I thought I'd find out what one of the 'official' views was.

Still wonder how people can objectively study Theology and still believe in a particular god at the end of it.

lol, well I don't know how objective the curriculum is for that 3 year course.

"... equivalent to a theology degree..."

Specifically it was the qualification you need to pass before you can become an officer in the Salvation Army -  it has the academic rigour of a degree but it is possible that it's not entirely balanced

rotflmfao

Not much palaeontology on the syllabus then :D

Yes, exactly, it's basically a vocational qualification to become a minister.

btw that probably reveals my secret plan to get into heaven doesn't it?

I'm going to do and say as I like - then when I die I'm going to haunt her until she puts a good word in for me with the The Big Man; it's not what you know, it's who you know ;D


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: kinboshi on December 29, 2010, 04:15:26 PM
Not sure if tikay will be able to help you then...

:dontask:


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Jon MW on December 29, 2010, 04:22:47 PM
:D


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: RED-DOG on October 14, 2018, 09:01:01 PM
This thread has to be worth a bump. boshi & Matt make me looool.


Title: Re: christianity and poker
Post by: Woodsey on October 14, 2018, 09:14:57 PM
Tbh there is a worse type these days, those on the left that want higher taxes and are pro gamblers thus avoiding paying taxes themselves, even worse if they make their money on places like betfair and are probably making profits from the most vulnerable in society.

The worst fucking hypocrites that crew....