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Title: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 06, 2011, 04:20:29 PM
There aren't enough diaries on here, so I thought I'd start another one. A sort of sports betting / poker / other stuff diary.

As of today, gambling is my only source of income and, for now at least, I am no longer a racing journalist  :'(

It was time for a change after ten years of the same thing. I'm not the tipster I was five years ago, nowhere near.

But I can't go from writing 1000s of words a week, which I've done for god knows how long, to zero. Especially now Tighty has nicked the Luton thread off me too.

My two biggest single bits of binkage last year were Josie (Big Brother) and Oostiehoostie in the Open. And mainly because of putting them up on here I ended up having more on than I would otherwise, especially Oostiehoostie after a PM session with nico, so doing a diary ought to be profitable anyway.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on January 06, 2011, 04:24:57 PM
Looking forward to this. Looks like you bet on a broad selection of things too. Something for everyone.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on January 06, 2011, 04:31:28 PM
is this diary going to run in tandem with the one that the sicilian is ghost-writing for you on the rail?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: GreekStein on January 06, 2011, 04:49:13 PM
Chomper, look forward to reading this.

One question - you don't ever really post much in non-Luton or sports related threads. How come?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 06, 2011, 04:53:58 PM
Never really read them in truth.

Luton thread, Tikay's nonsense, Celtic's excellent 'day in the life of a moderator' stuff, few of the sports betting threads, and that's about it.

Spend far too much time fishing on the Betty forum. They love me over there. My record at calling photo finishes is legendary.

is this diary going to run in tandem with the one that the sicilian is ghost-writing for you on the rail?

Can't compete with Sir Donks. Him and China Mug are on a different level.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nakor on January 06, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
Fenland - You not from Wisbech or somewhere like Emneth are you?

Good luck with the new income stream.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 06, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
Nope, nowhere near Wisbech but apparently St Neots in the fens. Wisbech is in the fens, Wisbech is in Cambs, St Neots is in Cambs, therefore St Neots is in the fens. Luton G is full of incred humour like this.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: T_Mar on January 06, 2011, 05:46:37 PM
What was your previous role in racing journalism? Bit of background for those of you that dont know you?

GL with the diary


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 06, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Fav curry?

When was the last time you cooked a meal?

Do you have any pets?

Top 5 players at luton?

How much have you won though IR?

biggest winning/losing day?

How funny did I find it when you recently placed a mug bet and gg'd  1200 notes?

  


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 06, 2011, 06:13:58 PM
Bump


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on January 06, 2011, 06:27:25 PM
[  ] gl with this


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 06, 2011, 06:35:19 PM
What was your previous role in racing journalism? Bit of background for those of you that dont know you?

GL with the diary

Always been in racing. Given first job by Compo (broadcasting dept) at Coral in 1988, then five years at Weatherbys, then editor of the Form Book for a few years, then sports editor of the incredible Raceform On Saturday. Done Spotlights in the Racing Post since around 2003, plus a weekly column in the Racing & Football Outlook, Sprintline. Few other bit and bobs too.

[  ] gl with this

LOLZ, never fails to amuse.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on January 06, 2011, 06:39:56 PM
GL with this

Why are you not as good a tipster as five years ago? I am assuming you IR stuff involves very little tipping as such?

Sprintline is a tipping service you run?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 06, 2011, 06:42:39 PM
What are your views on course watering? And what affect does this have on the draw?

Ever backed  belgium to win the eurovision song contest?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 06, 2011, 06:45:25 PM
Fav curry?

Chicken tikka korai madras. The Luton G Jalfrezi wants avoiding at all costs, likewise their cardboard naan.

When was the last time you cooked a meal?

Seriously? Would guess around five years ago.

Do you have any pets?

Two cats and Sir Donksalot.

Top 5 players at luton?

Not you, although you have awesome game and would win mega dimes if only you could take it seriously. Been very impressed by Dean Morris from what I've seen.

How much have you won though IR?

£860b. Roughly. -£251 today though, so might stay in.

biggest winning/losing day?

Nothing spectacular on the horses. Around +£3k. Biggest losing day around -£1k. Biggest winning day, Ukraine's Eurovision, around £20k.

How funny did I find it when you recently placed a mug bet and gg'd  1200 notes?

Very I would imgaine. Still hurts.



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Graham C on January 06, 2011, 06:52:21 PM
Going to enjoy reading this


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 06, 2011, 07:02:02 PM
What are your views on course watering? And what affect does this have on the draw?

Ever backed  belgium to win the eurovision song contest?

You've so been on google ffs

Belgium would have been six-figure binkage (125-1, 100-1, 80-1, 66-1). They were clear Turkey's year with two juries left but then only picked up one more point and got gubbed on the line. Could've laid as much as I wanted at 1.01 on Betty but only took £10k out of them. Biggest mistake I've ever made. Was pretty smashed by that point and up dancing on the table like Drainy was at the G before he got grounded.

Three of us killed the ESC for a few years before youtube meant everyone could see the entries at the same time as us. Used to get a CD posted by a ESC addict from the west country, guy called Johnny Chan. Truly. He still runs a website extolling the virtues of Ledbury.

It was us that kicked off the Ukraine gamble. From 16-1 down to 3-1 on the night. It wasn't us all the way though. Think Isiris or one of those big tipping services latched on to it at around 8-1. Good night that. Go Ruslana!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 06, 2011, 09:08:21 PM

Excellent start Mr Dole-Queue man.

Please write an Idiots Guide to Spreads Betting, & IR stuff.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 06, 2011, 09:10:07 PM

What's your line on this gibberish nonsense? Would you really bet on this stuff? I get these, & their like, daily, from upstairs.

Sawalha and Rippon favourites to be frozen out of Dancing On Ice

Dancing On Ice kicks off with a twist this year: two celebrities will be booted off before they even join the show proper and Sky Bet has opened betting on which duo will be dropped.

Half of this year’s crop of 16 celebrities will take to the ice on Sunday’s launch show and the three who receive least public votes will face the skate-off, with the two least popular celebrities hanging up their skates. The new-look judging panel of Emma Bunton, Jason Gardiner and Robin Cousins will have no say in who goes.

Sky Bet make actress Nadia Sawalha favourite to be axed at 11/10, with ex-newsreader Angela Rippon second favourite at 11/8.
 
War hero Johnson Beharry is next in the elimination betting at 5/2, together with TV presenter Jeff Brazier.

Former Coronation street actor Stephen Arnold is 3/1 to be axed, with US rapper Vanilla Ice a 7/2 shot.

Kerry Katona, who recently cracked two ribs in training, is a 5/1 outsider to be one of the two eliminees and is proving a popular bet to win Dancing On Ice at 10/1.

Nickelodeon presenter Laura Hamilton, who is 7/2 second favourite to win the show and described by Christopher Dean as a ‘speed demon’, is 7/2 to be knocked out.

Sky Bet’s Helen Jacob said: “With the public in control on Sunday, the best skaters and the biggest household names should benefit, while those who fall into neither camp are going to struggle to make the cut and we fear Nadia and Angela might be skating on thin ice.”

The remaining eight contestants will skate the following Sunday, when another two will leave the contest before the competition gets properly underway in week three.

Former EastEnders star Sam Attwater is Sky Bet’s early 9/4 favourite to win Dancing On Ice.

Dancing On Ice Week 1 double elimination
Nadia Sawalha 11/10, Angela Rippon 11/8,Jeff Brazier 5/2, Johnson Beharry 5/2, Stephen Arnold 3/1, Vanilla Ice 7/2, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Kerry Katona 5/1
Note: Which 2 celebs will come bottom of the public vote and be eliminated on Sunday?

Dancing On Ice Winner
Sam Attwater 9/4, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Jennifer Metcalfe, 6/1 Jeff Brazier 7/1, Kerry Katona 10/1, Johnson Beharry 16/1, Vanilla Ice 20/1, Chloe Madeley 20/1, Dave Vitty 20/1, Denise Welch 22/1, Elen Rives 22/1, Craig McLachlan 25/1, Steven Arnold 28/1, Nadia Sawalha 28/1,Angela Rippon 33/1, Dominic Cork 33/1.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: claypole on January 06, 2011, 11:51:03 PM
This is going to be my thread of the year, great start Chompy, never knew all this - in the couple fo times I have shared a poker table with you I guess it didn't come up as you busted me shortly after I established we both posted on blonde and I occasionally played Luton (I think within 4 hands at the Venetian!)

Keep it up, looking forward to a few gambles through the year to get on!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on January 07, 2011, 12:14:50 AM
We want more tales of death and mayhem..oh wait thats my one..better get back to it..


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 07, 2011, 01:14:52 AM
GL with this

Why are you not as good a tipster as five years ago? I am assuming you IR stuff involves very little tipping as such?

Sprintline is a tipping service you run?

Betting IR you watch races in a different way. Looking for horses to back in this race, or to lay. Not looking for future promise, which is all I used to look for.
Six, five, four, three years ago I was covering loads of meetings for the Racing Post all Flat season and knew a lot of horses well. Now I can watch a sprint handicap and not know much about any of them. Just one of those things. Not complaining though, IR has changed everything.
SprintLine was the name of the page I've done for the Racing & Football Outlook for about eight years now. Weekly tipping piece essentially. Built up a good following among readers, but done it to death now.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on January 07, 2011, 11:21:01 AM

What's your line on this gibberish nonsense? Would you really bet on this stuff? I get these, & their like, daily, from upstairs.

Sawalha and Rippon favourites to be frozen out of Dancing On Ice

Dancing On Ice kicks off with a twist this year: two celebrities will be booted off before they even join the show proper and Sky Bet has opened betting on which duo will be dropped.

Half of this year’s crop of 16 celebrities will take to the ice on Sunday’s launch show and the three who receive least public votes will face the skate-off, with the two least popular celebrities hanging up their skates. The new-look judging panel of Emma Bunton, Jason Gardiner and Robin Cousins will have no say in who goes.

Sky Bet make actress Nadia Sawalha favourite to be axed at 11/10, with ex-newsreader Angela Rippon second favourite at 11/8.
 
War hero Johnson Beharry is next in the elimination betting at 5/2, together with TV presenter Jeff Brazier.

Former Coronation street actor Stephen Arnold is 3/1 to be axed, with US rapper Vanilla Ice a 7/2 shot.

Kerry Katona, who recently cracked two ribs in training, is a 5/1 outsider to be one of the two eliminees and is proving a popular bet to win Dancing On Ice at 10/1.

Nickelodeon presenter Laura Hamilton, who is 7/2 second favourite to win the show and described by Christopher Dean as a ‘speed demon’, is 7/2 to be knocked out.

Sky Bet’s Helen Jacob said: “With the public in control on Sunday, the best skaters and the biggest household names should benefit, while those who fall into neither camp are going to struggle to make the cut and we fear Nadia and Angela might be skating on thin ice.”

The remaining eight contestants will skate the following Sunday, when another two will leave the contest before the competition gets properly underway in week three.

Former EastEnders star Sam Attwater is Sky Bet’s early 9/4 favourite to win Dancing On Ice.

Dancing On Ice Week 1 double elimination
Nadia Sawalha 11/10, Angela Rippon 11/8,Jeff Brazier 5/2, Johnson Beharry 5/2, Stephen Arnold 3/1, Vanilla Ice 7/2, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Kerry Katona 5/1
Note: Which 2 celebs will come bottom of the public vote and be eliminated on Sunday?

Dancing On Ice Winner
Sam Attwater 9/4, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Jennifer Metcalfe, 6/1 Jeff Brazier 7/1, Kerry Katona 10/1, Johnson Beharry 16/1, Vanilla Ice 20/1, Chloe Madeley 20/1, Dave Vitty 20/1, Denise Welch 22/1, Elen Rives 22/1, Craig McLachlan 25/1, Steven Arnold 28/1, Nadia Sawalha 28/1,Angela Rippon 33/1, Dominic Cork 33/1.


I think betting on this kind of event is fine if you think you have/get an edge on the betting.

Last year Bobby1 posted pre start ;

"I know this is sad, but I have been told that Hayley Tammaden is training really well in the Dancing on Ice thing. Apparently she is a trained dancer too so might be worth a bet at around 11/2 or 6/1."


....and some of us had a nice touch. :)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: GreekStein on January 07, 2011, 11:22:47 AM
As a Betfair man, what did you think of the whole Blatch thing?

Ever talk to him and think anything suspricious?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 07, 2011, 11:29:37 AM
It's all about angles innit? Don't see any point gambling otherwise, as you're basically guessing. Most gamblers are guessers.

A mate of mine likes correct scores on footie, which seems to keep him happy. It's usually £2.53 on Arsenal winning 4-2 or something. Once in a while he'll bink but it's just guesswork. "Arsenal should sneak it in a high scorer" he told me when they went to Old Trafford not long ago. WP sir.

Never watched Dancing On Shite, so won't be betting on it this year. But the idea of Kerry Katona being 10-1 is lol. The public sure adore her. Vanilla Ice is a no channer but not gonna be laying 20-1 shots. And Jeff Brazier is a tit, but I'll skip.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 07, 2011, 11:36:44 AM
As a Betfair man, what did you think of the whole Blatch thing?

Ever talk to him and think anything suspricious?

Wasn't surprised. It was all a bit sniffy from the start imo. Had forgotten when it all flared up but Lucky McBink asked me whether I thought it was worth getting involved with and I swayed him away from it. Sure doesn't run good Mr Plumjumperforxmas.
Same as in poker there's loads out there claiming to be killing it but most of it is blustery bravado. I'm not 100% these figures are right but they're the ones I've got stuck in my mind. Apparently...
0.7% of betty customers win £40k+ a year
0.1% of betty customers win £100k+ a year
Most of these guys are in the background, keeping it all nice and quiet. It's the noisy "I win this, I win that" characters that you want to be wary of. And that's what Blatch was like innit? Never spoke to the guy myself. Never on the same table.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 07, 2011, 11:40:14 AM

What's your line on this gibberish nonsense? Would you really bet on this stuff? I get these, & their like, daily, from upstairs.

Sawalha and Rippon favourites to be frozen out of Dancing On Ice

Dancing On Ice kicks off with a twist this year: two celebrities will be booted off before they even join the show proper and Sky Bet has opened betting on which duo will be dropped.

Half of this year’s crop of 16 celebrities will take to the ice on Sunday’s launch show and the three who receive least public votes will face the skate-off, with the two least popular celebrities hanging up their skates. The new-look judging panel of Emma Bunton, Jason Gardiner and Robin Cousins will have no say in who goes.

Sky Bet make actress Nadia Sawalha favourite to be axed at 11/10, with ex-newsreader Angela Rippon second favourite at 11/8.
 
War hero Johnson Beharry is next in the elimination betting at 5/2, together with TV presenter Jeff Brazier.

Former Coronation street actor Stephen Arnold is 3/1 to be axed, with US rapper Vanilla Ice a 7/2 shot.

Kerry Katona, who recently cracked two ribs in training, is a 5/1 outsider to be one of the two eliminees and is proving a popular bet to win Dancing On Ice at 10/1.

Nickelodeon presenter Laura Hamilton, who is 7/2 second favourite to win the show and described by Christopher Dean as a ‘speed demon’, is 7/2 to be knocked out.

Sky Bet’s Helen Jacob said: “With the public in control on Sunday, the best skaters and the biggest household names should benefit, while those who fall into neither camp are going to struggle to make the cut and we fear Nadia and Angela might be skating on thin ice.”

The remaining eight contestants will skate the following Sunday, when another two will leave the contest before the competition gets properly underway in week three.

Former EastEnders star Sam Attwater is Sky Bet’s early 9/4 favourite to win Dancing On Ice.

Dancing On Ice Week 1 double elimination
Nadia Sawalha 11/10, Angela Rippon 11/8,Jeff Brazier 5/2, Johnson Beharry 5/2, Stephen Arnold 3/1, Vanilla Ice 7/2, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Kerry Katona 5/1
Note: Which 2 celebs will come bottom of the public vote and be eliminated on Sunday?

Dancing On Ice Winner
Sam Attwater 9/4, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Jennifer Metcalfe, 6/1 Jeff Brazier 7/1, Kerry Katona 10/1, Johnson Beharry 16/1, Vanilla Ice 20/1, Chloe Madeley 20/1, Dave Vitty 20/1, Denise Welch 22/1, Elen Rives 22/1, Craig McLachlan 25/1, Steven Arnold 28/1, Nadia Sawalha 28/1,Angela Rippon 33/1, Dominic Cork 33/1.


I think betting on this kind of event is fine if you think you have/get an edge on the betting.

Last year Bobby1 posted pre start ;

"I know this is sad, but I have been told that Hayley Tammaden is training really well in the Dancing on Ice thing. Apparently she is a trained dancer too so might be worth a bet at around 11/2 or 6/1."


....and some of us had a nice touch. :)

Where has Bobby1 gone?

He hasn't posted since August.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Karabiner on January 07, 2011, 12:12:51 PM

What's your line on this gibberish nonsense? Would you really bet on this stuff? I get these, & their like, daily, from upstairs.

Sawalha and Rippon favourites to be frozen out of Dancing On Ice

Dancing On Ice kicks off with a twist this year: two celebrities will be booted off before they even join the show proper and Sky Bet has opened betting on which duo will be dropped.

Half of this year’s crop of 16 celebrities will take to the ice on Sunday’s launch show and the three who receive least public votes will face the skate-off, with the two least popular celebrities hanging up their skates. The new-look judging panel of Emma Bunton, Jason Gardiner and Robin Cousins will have no say in who goes.

Sky Bet make actress Nadia Sawalha favourite to be axed at 11/10, with ex-newsreader Angela Rippon second favourite at 11/8.
 
War hero Johnson Beharry is next in the elimination betting at 5/2, together with TV presenter Jeff Brazier.

Former Coronation street actor Stephen Arnold is 3/1 to be axed, with US rapper Vanilla Ice a 7/2 shot.

Kerry Katona, who recently cracked two ribs in training, is a 5/1 outsider to be one of the two eliminees and is proving a popular bet to win Dancing On Ice at 10/1.

Nickelodeon presenter Laura Hamilton, who is 7/2 second favourite to win the show and described by Christopher Dean as a ‘speed demon’, is 7/2 to be knocked out.

Sky Bet’s Helen Jacob said: “With the public in control on Sunday, the best skaters and the biggest household names should benefit, while those who fall into neither camp are going to struggle to make the cut and we fear Nadia and Angela might be skating on thin ice.”

The remaining eight contestants will skate the following Sunday, when another two will leave the contest before the competition gets properly underway in week three.

Former EastEnders star Sam Attwater is Sky Bet’s early 9/4 favourite to win Dancing On Ice.

Dancing On Ice Week 1 double elimination
Nadia Sawalha 11/10, Angela Rippon 11/8,Jeff Brazier 5/2, Johnson Beharry 5/2, Stephen Arnold 3/1, Vanilla Ice 7/2, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Kerry Katona 5/1
Note: Which 2 celebs will come bottom of the public vote and be eliminated on Sunday?

Dancing On Ice Winner
Sam Attwater 9/4, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Jennifer Metcalfe, 6/1 Jeff Brazier 7/1, Kerry Katona 10/1, Johnson Beharry 16/1, Vanilla Ice 20/1, Chloe Madeley 20/1, Dave Vitty 20/1, Denise Welch 22/1, Elen Rives 22/1, Craig McLachlan 25/1, Steven Arnold 28/1, Nadia Sawalha 28/1,Angela Rippon 33/1, Dominic Cork 33/1.


I think betting on this kind of event is fine if you think you have/get an edge on the betting.

Last year Bobby1 posted pre start ;

"I know this is sad, but I have been told that Hayley Tammaden is training really well in the Dancing on Ice thing. Apparently she is a trained dancer too so might be worth a bet at around 11/2 or 6/1."


....and some of us had a nice touch. :)

Where has Bobby1 gone?

He hasn't posted since August.

Funnily enough I got a PM from Bobby1 just before Xmas advising me to take the 4/1 about Sam Attwater.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on January 07, 2011, 12:22:48 PM

What's your line on this gibberish nonsense? Would you really bet on this stuff? I get these, & their like, daily, from upstairs.

Sawalha and Rippon favourites to be frozen out of Dancing On Ice

Dancing On Ice kicks off with a twist this year: two celebrities will be booted off before they even join the show proper and Sky Bet has opened betting on which duo will be dropped.

Half of this year’s crop of 16 celebrities will take to the ice on Sunday’s launch show and the three who receive least public votes will face the skate-off, with the two least popular celebrities hanging up their skates. The new-look judging panel of Emma Bunton, Jason Gardiner and Robin Cousins will have no say in who goes.

Sky Bet make actress Nadia Sawalha favourite to be axed at 11/10, with ex-newsreader Angela Rippon second favourite at 11/8.
 
War hero Johnson Beharry is next in the elimination betting at 5/2, together with TV presenter Jeff Brazier.

Former Coronation street actor Stephen Arnold is 3/1 to be axed, with US rapper Vanilla Ice a 7/2 shot.

Kerry Katona, who recently cracked two ribs in training, is a 5/1 outsider to be one of the two eliminees and is proving a popular bet to win Dancing On Ice at 10/1.

Nickelodeon presenter Laura Hamilton, who is 7/2 second favourite to win the show and described by Christopher Dean as a ‘speed demon’, is 7/2 to be knocked out.

Sky Bet’s Helen Jacob said: “With the public in control on Sunday, the best skaters and the biggest household names should benefit, while those who fall into neither camp are going to struggle to make the cut and we fear Nadia and Angela might be skating on thin ice.”

The remaining eight contestants will skate the following Sunday, when another two will leave the contest before the competition gets properly underway in week three.

Former EastEnders star Sam Attwater is Sky Bet’s early 9/4 favourite to win Dancing On Ice.

Dancing On Ice Week 1 double elimination
Nadia Sawalha 11/10, Angela Rippon 11/8,Jeff Brazier 5/2, Johnson Beharry 5/2, Stephen Arnold 3/1, Vanilla Ice 7/2, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Kerry Katona 5/1
Note: Which 2 celebs will come bottom of the public vote and be eliminated on Sunday?

Dancing On Ice Winner
Sam Attwater 9/4, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Jennifer Metcalfe, 6/1 Jeff Brazier 7/1, Kerry Katona 10/1, Johnson Beharry 16/1, Vanilla Ice 20/1, Chloe Madeley 20/1, Dave Vitty 20/1, Denise Welch 22/1, Elen Rives 22/1, Craig McLachlan 25/1, Steven Arnold 28/1, Nadia Sawalha 28/1,Angela Rippon 33/1, Dominic Cork 33/1.


I think betting on this kind of event is fine if you think you have/get an edge on the betting.

Last year Bobby1 posted pre start ;

"I know this is sad, but I have been told that Hayley Tammaden is training really well in the Dancing on Ice thing. Apparently she is a trained dancer too so might be worth a bet at around 11/2 or 6/1."


....and some of us had a nice touch. :)

Where has Bobby1 gone?

He hasn't posted since August.

Funnily enough I got a PM from Bobby1 just before Xmas advising me to take the 4/1 about Sam Attwater.

He kindly send me an email too. Fingers crossed again!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 07, 2011, 12:23:38 PM

What's your line on this gibberish nonsense? Would you really bet on this stuff? I get these, & their like, daily, from upstairs.

Sawalha and Rippon favourites to be frozen out of Dancing On Ice

Dancing On Ice kicks off with a twist this year: two celebrities will be booted off before they even join the show proper and Sky Bet has opened betting on which duo will be dropped.

Half of this year’s crop of 16 celebrities will take to the ice on Sunday’s launch show and the three who receive least public votes will face the skate-off, with the two least popular celebrities hanging up their skates. The new-look judging panel of Emma Bunton, Jason Gardiner and Robin Cousins will have no say in who goes.

Sky Bet make actress Nadia Sawalha favourite to be axed at 11/10, with ex-newsreader Angela Rippon second favourite at 11/8.
 
War hero Johnson Beharry is next in the elimination betting at 5/2, together with TV presenter Jeff Brazier.

Former Coronation street actor Stephen Arnold is 3/1 to be axed, with US rapper Vanilla Ice a 7/2 shot.

Kerry Katona, who recently cracked two ribs in training, is a 5/1 outsider to be one of the two eliminees and is proving a popular bet to win Dancing On Ice at 10/1.

Nickelodeon presenter Laura Hamilton, who is 7/2 second favourite to win the show and described by Christopher Dean as a ‘speed demon’, is 7/2 to be knocked out.

Sky Bet’s Helen Jacob said: “With the public in control on Sunday, the best skaters and the biggest household names should benefit, while those who fall into neither camp are going to struggle to make the cut and we fear Nadia and Angela might be skating on thin ice.”

The remaining eight contestants will skate the following Sunday, when another two will leave the contest before the competition gets properly underway in week three.

Former EastEnders star Sam Attwater is Sky Bet’s early 9/4 favourite to win Dancing On Ice.

Dancing On Ice Week 1 double elimination
Nadia Sawalha 11/10, Angela Rippon 11/8,Jeff Brazier 5/2, Johnson Beharry 5/2, Stephen Arnold 3/1, Vanilla Ice 7/2, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Kerry Katona 5/1
Note: Which 2 celebs will come bottom of the public vote and be eliminated on Sunday?

Dancing On Ice Winner
Sam Attwater 9/4, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Jennifer Metcalfe, 6/1 Jeff Brazier 7/1, Kerry Katona 10/1, Johnson Beharry 16/1, Vanilla Ice 20/1, Chloe Madeley 20/1, Dave Vitty 20/1, Denise Welch 22/1, Elen Rives 22/1, Craig McLachlan 25/1, Steven Arnold 28/1, Nadia Sawalha 28/1,Angela Rippon 33/1, Dominic Cork 33/1.


I think betting on this kind of event is fine if you think you have/get an edge on the betting.

Last year Bobby1 posted pre start ;

"I know this is sad, but I have been told that Hayley Tammaden is training really well in the Dancing on Ice thing. Apparently she is a trained dancer too so might be worth a bet at around 11/2 or 6/1."


....and some of us had a nice touch. :)

Where has Bobby1 gone?

He hasn't posted since August.

Funnily enough I got a PM from Bobby1 just before Xmas advising me to take the 4/1 about Sam Attwater.

He kindly send me an email too. Fingers crossed again!

Bastard didn't send me one.

Cross me off that hope he's ok list! :)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 07, 2011, 12:24:57 PM
Is sprintline going to come back?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 07, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
Were you a reader Boldie?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 07, 2011, 01:04:54 PM
Were you a reader Boldie?

Subscribe to the E-reader versions of RFO and RP...the only newspapers I read TBH :)



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: kinboshi on January 07, 2011, 01:10:19 PM
Were you a reader Boldie?

Subscribe to the E-reader versions of RFO and RP...the only newspapers I read TBH :)



...as well as the Daily Mail, ldo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 07, 2011, 01:11:55 PM
Were you a reader Boldie?

Subscribe to the E-reader versions of RFO and RP...the only newspapers I read TBH :)



...as well as the Daily Mail, ldo.

Read that for free online and just donate the price of the daily mail directly to the BNP ...I hate paying the middle man.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 07, 2011, 01:15:18 PM
Obika signs this morning, Agard yesterday, CMS possibly on the move too?

If not good attacking options all round now.  Never a massive fan of McLean.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 07, 2011, 01:18:51 PM
Honestly don't know if they're going to carry on with SprintLine. The other draw bore at Canary Wharf, Bernie Ford, recently left for pastures new also. Someone else could take it on I guess but it's pretty specialised. My bet is they'll have something similar, as they need a tipstering column alongside The Mole, but it'll probably incorporate something else.

Otherwise, it's no secret now that The Raceform Update and The Weekender, the RP's two midweek papers, are merging in the spring, although not sure merging is the right word. That's another reason why the time felt right for me to move on.

But I'm sure a few will have left the G last night believing I'd really been sacked rather than left of my own accord. Funny, I hate talking about that sort of thing, always have, and I didn't even convince myself when telling a couple that I felt it was time for something different.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 07, 2011, 01:25:15 PM
Obika signs this morning, Agard yesterday, CMS possibly on the move too?

If not good attacking options all round now.  Never a massive fan of McLean.

£1.3m for McLean was the best bit of comedy I've read for a long time. GG Hull.
Hope for CMS's sake he gets a move in January. We're going nowhere this season and he deserves the chance. If Aaron was worth £1.3m, CMS is £3m minimum.
Also think Boydy needs to move on. He's been terrible all season and confidence is shot.
It'll be a shame in a way. McLean-CMS-Boyd have got us hatfuls for a few seasons but it's all about to change. Tomlin is the future. Awesome.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 07, 2011, 01:29:30 PM
Honestly don't know if they're going to carry on with SprintLine. The other draw bore at Canary Wharf, Bernie Ford, recently left for pastures new also. Someone else could take it on I guess but it's pretty specialised. My bet is they'll have something similar, as they need a tipstering column alongside The Mole, but it'll probably incorporate something else.

Otherwise, it's no secret now that The Raceform Update and The Weekender, the RP's two midweek papers, are merging in the spring, although not sure merging is the right word. That's another reason why the time felt right for me to move on.

But I'm sure a few will have left the G last night believing I'd really been sacked rather than left of my own accord. Funny, I hate talking about that sort of thing, always have, and I didn't even convince myself when telling a couple that I felt it was time for something different.

The thing about Sprintline and all that draw bias stuff is that it's ridic hard work to try and stay on top of that yourself so a column is soo ridic valuable to anyone without the time/ analytical skill to do it themselves.

BTW, why is it that the RFO is just SOOO much better than the Weekender yet the Weekender is much more expensive? Is it because Weekender has to pay Tom Segal's ridic salary?



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 07, 2011, 03:05:48 PM
Biggest bet lost at the shortest price?

Ever had a '1000' 'er on betty?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 07, 2011, 03:13:09 PM
Never risk that much on any one race. Apart from Exeter last month, when boredom got the better of me. First race back over jumps for days and dropped £1.2k. Not much in the greater scheme of things but felt sick for an hour, then went into sulk mode and didn't go play poker as planned. Even though I got it back to around minus a monkey.
I'm a horrible loser (not so much poker), always have been, always will be. Think that's probably a good thing though. This idea that gambling addicts get the same sort of rush from losing as from winning baffles me. I hate losing.
Biggest winner I backed was 210 at Hexham about five years ago. Betfair was so much easier IR then. Before the on-course boys and fast-pic boys tightened everything up.
Managed to get around £20 matched. Leaders were close to collpasing and just caught a glimpse of something finishing well as they went to the last fence. Asked for £50 odd at 20 and got £20 odd matched at 210! Pleasing enough.
Layed a load of 1.01 losers. Could write a book on 1.01 backers and how I feel about them.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 07, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
Could write a book on 1.01 backers and how I feel about them.

Please do, they really baffle me as an entity.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 07, 2011, 04:29:39 PM
I know a couple of guys who have made fortunes backing 1.01 - 1.03 shots on betfair.

Like everything else it's got alot harder recently, but if you know what your doing you can win at the game.

If you are taking 1.01 about a 1.001 shots you will win long term.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on January 08, 2011, 11:17:53 AM
GL with this blog'age Clompy.

I would like to know....

WPIL (excluding me obv) and why?

Favourite alcoholic drink?

Why don't u play pokerz on-line isn't it?

What annoys you the most (non-poker)?




Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: lutonrover on January 08, 2011, 11:27:15 AM
Good Luck Chomps ....their loss ....more time to keep nicking those hapless fish in the place markets ...



look forward to reading it


best always

Richard


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 08, 2011, 03:16:13 PM

Excellent start Mr Dole-Queue man.

Please write an Idiots Guide to Spreads Betting, & IR stuff.

I'm never sure 'they' are being serious when 'they' say most true pro punterers sign on. Think it's probably hilarious japes. Whatever, I did it once and sure will be doing it again. Won't be making NI contributions either. No value there. £12 a week to pick up a pension when I've snuffed it? GG.

Never done spread betting at all. Had one go on a mate's account about 15 years ago, buying Norwich points and failing miserably, and never touched it since. IR is where it's at.

IR betting is a nack, something you either can do completely, or can't do at all. You can be a marv racereader and still be shit at betting IR. Know a few of them.

It's quickness of thought and eye-hand co-ordination that counts, although you obv need to know a bit about the sport. This is probably a pretty random idea but I'll stick it up anyway. If you're an assertive driver you'll be all right at IR. If you're one of those that can't read roundabouts and slip-raod on to motorway traffic, don't bother. Said it was pretty random...

That's about as much as there is to say about IR. I was asked if I fancied writing a book on IR a while back but there's nothing to say about it. Not easy to train people either. You just have to try it and see if you're any good at it.  Like I sure am today.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 08, 2011, 05:06:56 PM
Proud of the Posh at the moment. Only conceding six at Fulham was better than expected. At least Tomlin got one back. Probably missed a bet here, never even thought to look at the 'any other score' price on betty. Pretty poor.

Any thoughts darts boys on the 7-1 Adrian Lewis for next year's PDC? I probably won't play, as I don't like having long-term bets hovering around, but someone asked me at the G the other night for one bet, on any sport, and I gave him Lewis.

Just think this is an impossible market to price up. Reminds me of the first time Hendry won the world snooker. Straight after that Davis was still favourite for the following year. Wrongly. End of an era.

If you take the view this is the end of the Taylor era and the start of another, what price should Lewis be? 3-1? Like I say he's impossible to price. Taylor can't go on forever and still takes out a chunk of the market. I know there's a lot more strength in depth but Lewis will only be 26 next year and Taylor wants taking on. Interesting anyhoo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 08, 2011, 05:13:57 PM
Will you be updating us on your poker adventures on this thread?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 08, 2011, 05:15:35 PM
Yep, 2 for January Tighty


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 08, 2011, 05:25:47 PM
Yep, 2 for January Tighty

Running totals please so you just dont conjure up a figure like you did last year.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on January 09, 2011, 01:40:46 PM
GL with this blog'age Clompy.

I would like to know....

WPIL (excluding me obv) and why?

Favourite alcoholic drink?

Why don't u play pokerz on-line isn't it?

What annoys you the most (non-poker)?


Ahem....


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on January 09, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
GL with this blog'age Clompy.

I would like to know....

WPIL (excluding me obv) and why?

Favourite alcoholic drink?

Why don't u play pokerz on-line isn't it?

What annoys you the most (non-poker)?


Ahem....

I got confused then coz he did answer this post.  Looks like Chomps has been doing his old 'post - delete' trick on here too.

My question - why do you do that chompy - do you immediately think better of stuff the minute after you've posted it?  Some proper gems have been lost to the ether :(


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 09, 2011, 02:15:32 PM
GL with this blog'age Clompy.

I would like to know....

WPIL (excluding me obv) and why?

Favourite alcoholic drink?

Why don't u play pokerz on-line isn't it?

What annoys you the most (non-poker)?


Ahem....

Sorry Drainy, here goes...

British Gas obv, tez.

Newcastle Brown, Foster's is gay.

My powers are worthless online. Always thought that if I'm not talking I'm generally not playing well.

Last question is easy. National Lottery 'In It To Win It', that quiz with Dale Winton. I have many questions about this pile of mince and it tilts me so badly. Had forgotten how much until I saw it again for the first time in ages last night.
It was a four-way chop for around £16k each. Amazing really. One of the four knew the answer to his question, the state capital of California, the other three somehow managed to guess correctly. Three x 2-1 shots, a nice 26-1 treble.
Incred really. Reckon there must have been ten guesses last night and most were correct. How's that work?
Does anyone know anyone that's been on one of these quiz shows? Where the ^&*^% do they find them?
Stick someone like Tighty on there and he'd get them all right. And would TID with the MOF. But that wouldn't be good for the show. They need players rotating. So they seem to pick idiots.
The bird that got the first seven questions right last night to stick £35k in the prize fund - since when did the Beeb have 60 bags to give away on a weekly quiz? - had to answer 'The Cape of Good Hope lies at the tip of which continent?' to get back on winners' row.
She then struggled to think of a continent before going for...America. WTF!
Do they have to fail an audition to get on this? Reckon that used to be the case on 100 per cent too. Know a guy that went on there and he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the box.
Aaargh, tilting again just thinking about it.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 09, 2011, 02:19:41 PM
Yup, do that quite often Clawbird. Was trying to think of something what really tilts me and then, there it was, at 8pm on BBC1 last night.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on January 09, 2011, 02:35:11 PM
GL with this blog'age Clompy.

I would like to know....

WPIL (excluding me obv) and why?

Favourite alcoholic drink?

Why don't u play pokerz on-line isn't it?

What annoys you the most (non-poker)?


Ahem....

Sorry Drainy, here goes...

British Gas obv, tez.

Newcastle Brown, Foster's is gay.

My powers are worthless online. Always thought that if I'm not talking I'm generally not playing well.

Last question is easy. National Lottery 'In It To Win It', that quiz with Dale Winton. I have many questions about this pile of mince and it tilts me so badly. Had forgotten how much until I saw it again for the first time in ages last night.
It was a four-way chop for around £16k each. Amazing really. One of the four knew the answer to his question, the state capital of California, the other three somehow managed to guess correctly. Three x 2-1 shots, a nice 26-1 treble.
Incred really. Reckon there must have been ten guesses last night and most were correct. How's that work?
Does anyone know anyone that's been on one of these quiz shows? Where the ^&*^% do they find them?
Stick someone like Tighty on there and he'd get them all right. And would TID with the MOF. But that wouldn't be good for the show. They need players rotating. So they seem to pick idiots.
The bird that got the first seven questions right last night to stick £35k in the prize fund - since when did the Beeb have 60 bags to give away on a weekly quiz? - had to answer 'The Cape of Good Hope lies at the tip of which continent?' to get back on winners' row.
She then struggled to think of a continent before going for...America. WTF!
Do they have to fail an audition to get on this? Reckon that used to be the case on 100 per cent too. Know a guy that went on there and he's not exactly bright.
Aaargh, tilting again just thinking about it.


lol....Soooooooooo+1


Just can't even watch it now for even a second.

Does he still say,.... "can I take that as your final answer?"........when they have said what their final answer is!!! arrrgggghhhh.

....and why do they have to give a bleeding speech about all the friging different answers?.....arrrrggggghhhh.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 09, 2011, 02:48:18 PM
It's good to tilt yourself occasionally, gets the blood pumping.

Couldn't be arsed to do the housework one afternoon a couple of weeks ago and was just messing about playing facebook scrabz as per.

So I decided to discuss my Monte Carlo exit hand with Sir Donksalot and it worked. Upstairs and downstairs done in record time.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on January 09, 2011, 02:51:18 PM


....and why do they have to give a bleeding speech about all the friging different answers?.....arrrrggggghhhh.

they probs get told to by the producers.  When we went on eggheads we were told we had to give a little speech about how we'd arrived at our answer. eg, if the question was 'what is 1+1' and the possible answers are 2, 3 or 4 you'd have to go through some rigmarole to eliminate the other answers'.  makes for better telly I guess, and also makes the contestants look a bit dumber than the eggheads (well, even more dumb).


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on January 09, 2011, 05:27:08 PM
My kids lock me in my study while they watch the Winton. Apparently I tilt them when I start criticising the programme and they like to guess the answers.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 09, 2011, 06:39:57 PM
Guess maybe it's aimed at kidz and lottery ticket buyers. Still tilts the life out of me.

127 hours is fantastic. Gonna be a non-stop week of cinema going this week I fancy.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on January 09, 2011, 08:11:42 PM
GL with this blog'age Clompy.

I would like to know....

WPIL (excluding me obv) and why?

Favourite alcoholic drink?

Why don't u play pokerz on-line isn't it?

What annoys you the most (non-poker)?


Ahem....

Sorry Drainy, here goes...

British Gas obv, tez.

Newcastle Brown, Foster's is gay.

My powers are worthless online. Always thought that if I'm not talking I'm generally not playing well.

Last question is easy. National Lottery 'In It To Win It', that quiz with Dale Winton. I have many questions about this pile of mince and it tilts me so badly. Had forgotten how much until I saw it again for the first time in ages last night.
It was a four-way chop for around £16k each. Amazing really. One of the four knew the answer to his question, the state capital of California, the other three somehow managed to guess correctly. Three x 2-1 shots, a nice 26-1 treble.
Incred really. Reckon there must have been ten guesses last night and most were correct. How's that work?
Does anyone know anyone that's been on one of these quiz shows? Where the ^&*^% do they find them?
Stick someone like Tighty on there and he'd get them all right. And would TID with the MOF. But that wouldn't be good for the show. They need players rotating. So they seem to pick idiots.
The bird that got the first seven questions right last night to stick £35k in the prize fund - since when did the Beeb have 60 bags to give away on a weekly quiz? - had to answer 'The Cape of Good Hope lies at the tip of which continent?' to get back on winners' row.
She then struggled to think of a continent before going for...America. WTF!
Do they have to fail an audition to get on this? Reckon that used to be the case on 100 per cent too. Know a guy that went on there and he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the box.
Aaargh, tilting again just thinking about it.

Loz @ innit to winnit innit
proper tez

plz tell us about these "powers" that u have....
(ps - nothing wrong with talking to yourself whilst playing on-line imo)



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 09, 2011, 08:27:27 PM
Couldn't touch Lewis at 7/1.

Strikes me as the sort of player who will sit back on success aind stroll through 2011 taking the increased dosh he will earn from exhibitions and not work on his game like Taylor always has.

I maybe wrong but even if I am, 7/1 sounds about right, not stunning value with several other players hungry for their first PDC crown. Anderson, Whitlock and Wade all more likely to win it than Lewis imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Teacake on January 09, 2011, 09:59:02 PM
GL with this blog'age Clompy.

I would like to know....

WPIL (excluding me obv) and why?

Favourite alcoholic drink?

Why don't u play pokerz on-line isn't it?

What annoys you the most (non-poker)?


Ahem....



Last question is easy. National Lottery 'In It To Win It', that quiz with Dale Winton. I have many questions about this pile of mince and it tilts me so badly. Had forgotten how much until I saw it again for the first time in ages last night.
It was a four-way chop for around £16k each. Amazing really. One of the four knew the answer to his question, the state capital of California, the other three somehow managed to guess correctly. Three x 2-1 shots, a nice 26-1 treble.
Incred really. Reckon there must have been ten guesses last night and most were correct. How's that work?
Does anyone know anyone that's been on one of these quiz shows? Where the ^&*^% do they find them?
Stick someone like Tighty on there and he'd get them all right. And would TID with the MOF. But that wouldn't be good for the show. They need players rotating. So they seem to pick idiots.
The bird that got the first seven questions right last night to stick £35k in the prize fund - since when did the Beeb have 60 bags to give away on a weekly quiz? - had to answer 'The Cape of Good Hope lies at the tip of which continent?' to get back on winners' row.
She then struggled to think of a continent before going for...America. WTF!
Do they have to fail an audition to get on this? Reckon that used to be the case on 100 per cent too. Know a guy that went on there and he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the box.
Aaargh, tilting again just thinking about it.



Funny you should say that, the wife got a text last night from one of her pals saying to put it on as a girl she worked with was on. She guessed the Thought Police were in 1984 for her £16k, ironic as she is plod herself.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snowball on January 09, 2011, 10:23:29 PM
Couldn't touch Lewis at 7/1.

Strikes me as the sort of player who will sit back on success aind stroll through 2011 taking the increased dosh he will earn from exhibitions and not work on his game like Taylor always has.

I maybe wrong but even if I am, 7/1 sounds about right, not stunning value with several other players hungry for their first PDC crown. Anderson, Whitlock and Wade all more likely to win it than Lewis imo.
I think 7/1 is an overeaction, I would be amazed if he was shorter than 7s come mid December.As you say motivation will more than likely be his biggest problem this year as this seems to be a problem for young players who win majors early in their career.I don't think Lewis averaged over 100 once at the World Champs and his average in the Final was the 2nd lowest in the last 6 years(the other being Part in 08, which was a freak year).
It will be more interesting to see how Taylor responds imo as Taylors A game is virtually unbeatable.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 10, 2011, 01:37:46 PM
If there was a Towcester meeting every day I'd have more $$$ than Tikay. Love the place but it doesn't half get scary sometimes.

Fancied horse pulls hard? Place lay it. If it still looks to be going well down the back straight? Place lay it again. And again. Anything 1.5 or lower. Lay it again. Then hold your breath and hope it stops up that hill. That hill is a killer.

The hilarious ongoing jape on the betty forum is that Towcester is uphill the whole way round. Arf arf. But the final half-mile or so is all uphill. After however many miles already in the mud. And they finish out on their feet.

Emperor Charlie just gave me a scare in the 1.25 but stopped and was nabbed jumping the last, finishing fourth. Scary shit though.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on January 10, 2011, 02:16:14 PM
Lewis@7-1 seems skinny to me. Don't see him playing that world champs form week in week out, just look at last years results for proof.

I'd rather take taylor on with someone like wade at 7-1-who has won this before, but tbh taylor at 7-4 looks huge. If it was based on the regular season i'd have to have a lump on the ego maniac.

Can't see him not coming back stronger from this upset, like said before ITT- on his A game he's untouchable.

Loving the diary chomps, especially the OP mentioning my golf convo prowess!

Ummmm couple of questions, any tips, any tips and errr any tips please?

:)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 10, 2011, 02:21:45 PM
If there was a Towcester meeting every day I'd have more $$$ than Tikay. Love the place but it doesn't half get scary sometimes.

Fancied horse pulls hard? Place lay it. If it still looks to be going well down the back straight? Place lay it again. And again. Anything 1.5 or lower. Lay it again. Then hold your breath and hope it stops up that hill. That hill is a killer.

The hilarious ongoing jape on the betty forum is that Towcester is uphill the whole way round. Arf arf. But the final half-mile or so is all uphill. After however many miles already in the mud. And they finish out on their feet.

Emperor Charlie just gave me a scare in the 1.25 but stopped and was nabbed jumping the last, finishing fourth. Scary shit though.

what do you think about only backing horses with course and distance form at Towcester? I can never bring myself to even consider a horse that has never run there before?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 10, 2011, 02:55:27 PM
Makes sense to me Boldie. Another one just cracked in the last after pulling hard, that thing ridden by wardrobe Thornton. Gimme Hexham and Towcester double headers in the rain every day and I'd be most pleased.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 10, 2011, 04:16:07 PM
Shocked or not so much?

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/bha-howard-johnson-faces-ban-over-welfare-breaches/806744/top/


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 10, 2011, 04:42:56 PM
Sure am. You?

Always thought he was a bizarre choice for Graham Wylie. Never quite understood what was going on there, picking up Mark Prescott horses with inflated handicap marks for mega dimes to send them hurdling with a lesser trainer. They've had one or two along the way obv but would love to see the Wylie bottom line.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 10, 2011, 05:08:14 PM
Sure am. You?

Always thought he was a bizarre choice for Graham Wylie. Never quite understood what was going on there, picking up Mark Prescott horses with inflated handicap marks for mega dimes to send them hurdling with a lesser trainer. They've had one or two along the way obv but would love to see the Wylie bottom line.

 Not so much shocked at the doping thing tbh but the main one for me is the neurectomy which implies very blatant cheating indeed. (Though I don't know exactly what the benefit of this is other than "it keeps running through pain") He must have known this was against the rules, surely?  (he says he didn't know)

I remember Graham Wylie bursting on to the scene some years ago...all of a sudden, or so it seemed, you had Wylie and Johnson becoming as formidable as Pipe and David Johnson. It seemed like they were winning every race and that they had a great business model. Sure, they were spending money like there was no tomorrow and paid very decent amounts of money for average handicappers but they were winning their share of races.

 The last few years have clearly not been as good as the first few (or so it seems..his prize money has taken a big dip and the business model is now obv exposed as being very flawed indeed, even Wylie would admit this surely?) but didn't really expect this from, what some people call, a "top" trainer.
Had a look at the last few races of Striking Article and one of the other ones and it seems that there was at least about 50k that they won in prizemoney this way...that's quite a large chunk of his yearly income.

Lenghty ban would seem in order.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: mickyp on January 10, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
Was anyone ever charged when johnson was allegedly held at gunpoint and had £200k in his house ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 11, 2011, 01:53:01 AM
Gary Johnson has left the mighty Posh. Good! Overdue. No way he was gonna turn it round after the 'win your next half dozen games or you're out' episode a few weeks ago.
Too many have underperformed for him, as Tighty suggested might happen when he took over, mainly Ryan Bennett and George Boyd.
Pretty certain we'll go for youth again this time. No idea who though. Would still take Eddie Howe but that's about a million to one. Probably best if he stays at Bournemouth though. Backed them +ridic no. of points on the handicap pre.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 11, 2011, 01:53:50 AM
How did Luton go tonight Chomps?

You seemed to have built a nice stack when I was leaving...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 11, 2011, 02:10:52 AM
Pokerz sure was fun at the G tonight. Had a Nirvana-like potential 'let's go to the car park' moment with Tattoos Of Berks (TOB). Kept it quiet when Nirvana came to the table later though. He'd have had way too much fun with that.

All pretty gay really. At 100-200 I rised to 525, Tattoos Of Berks re-rised to 1450. I called, as you do with 5 8 spades.
Flop 2 5 7. Check, 1200, call.
Turn 6 spades, giving me up and down str8 flush draw, check, 1500, call.
River 7, so I missed. Bet 3500. Value bet obv. Dwell-fold from TOB.
Can't resist showing. Show most of my hands in truth. And the chat goes something like...

TOB: "You call my re-raise with that shit?"
Me: "Yup, suited connectors obv."
TOB (getting huffy): "&*%*& rubdown, turning your cards over."
Me: "Turning cards over is a rubdown?"

That was pretty much it. I think. May have been a bit more but I was crying inside by now. He sure looked pleased. Simon G might confirm anything else.

Get over yourself ffs. If you can't handle that sort of nothingness, play online and turn the chat box off. Normally a sign of pokering financial difficulties innit?

Anyhoo, built up to around 30k at 400-800. Pretty raise-respectful table for a £50er and me and Simon G were pretty much taking it in turns. Then...

Donk makes it 2800, I decide to get trappy in the SB with KK, BB calls as expected. Flop J94, lead for 3500, BB folds, Donk shoves for 12k total. I call. He has A4. 4 on the river.
At 600-1200 I make it 3050 with 77. BB calls. Flop ace high, call one 1200 bet on the turn to try and river a set, then give up.
Raise to 2900 with 44. Are dee opposite shoves for another 4k. Call obv. He has Q9. Queen obv.
Shove 13k with AQ. Talk A4 man from earlier into calling with A10. Backdoor flush. Sigh.

Meanwhile, returning Luton legend Dick Lynch joins the table short stacked. With 8k, he makes it 2k on the button. Tight guy in the BB calls, leaving 4.5k back. Flop 10 7 5. BB shoves with A10. Uncle Dicky has a think and makes the call with AJ, leaving 1.5k behind. Any guesses as to the turn?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: lutonrover on January 11, 2011, 10:40:06 AM
Great stuff Chomps ...agree about in running its the only way , but to beginners I would say a few  things

British racing is almost totally bent , never ever bet before a race .......train yourself to look at a race from what might happen , and FFS stop looking at those in front


always be A backer until you get the hang of things .....and lastly look at it for 6 months before getting involved ...remember the only person you must beat is yourself so get a grip ...not many can manage it though


good luck this yr Chomps


Richard



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 11, 2011, 11:30:00 AM


British racing is almost totally bent , never ever bet before a race



Don't really (or really don't) agree with this, I have to say.

You're right in looking to see how the race might unfold (on paper) but strongly disagree with the "never bet before a race" advise.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2011, 11:38:02 AM
Pokerz sure was fun at the G tonight. Had a Nirvana-like potential 'let's go to the car park' moment with Tattoos Of Berks (TOB). Kept it quiet when Nirvana came to the table later though. He'd have had way too much fun with that.

All pretty gay really. At 100-200 I rised to 525, Tattoos Of Berks re-rised to 1450. I called, as you do with 5 8 spades.
Flop 2 5 7. Check, 1200, call.
Turn 6 spades, giving me up and down str8 flush draw, check, 1500, call.
River 7, so I missed. Bet 3500. Value bet obv. Dwell-fold from TOB.
Can't resist showing. Show most of my hands in truth. And the chat goes something like...

TOB: "You call my re-raise with that shit?"
Me: "Yup, suited connectors obv."
TOB (getting huffy): "&*%*& rubdown, turning your cards over."
Me: "Turning cards over is a rubdown?"

That was pretty much it. I think. May have been a bit more but I was crying inside by now. He sure looked pleased. Simon G might confirm anything else.

Get over yourself ffs. If you can't handle that sort of nothingness, play online and turn the chat box off. Normally a sign of pokering financial difficulties innit?

Anyhoo, built up to around 30k at 400-800. Pretty raise-respectful table for a £50er and me and Simon G were pretty much taking it in turns. Then...

Donk makes it 2800, I decide to get trappy in the SB with KK, BB calls as expected. Flop J94, lead for 3500, BB folds, Donk shoves for 12k total. I call. He has A4. 4 on the river.
At 600-1200 I make it 3050 with 77. BB calls. Flop ace high, call one 1200 bet on the turn to try and river a set, then give up.
Raise to 2900 with 44. Are dee opposite shoves for another 4k. Call obv. He has Q9. Queen obv.
Shove 13k with AQ. Talk A4 man from earlier into calling with A10. Backdoor flush. Sigh.

Meanwhile, returning Luton legend Dick Lynch joins the table short stacked. With 8k, he makes it 2k on the button. Tight guy in the BB calls, leaving 4.5k back. Flop 10 7 5. BB shoves with A10. Uncle Dicky has a think and makes the call with AJ, leaving 1.5k behind. Any guesses as to the turn?

Making metagame moves agianst big tattooed oafs is -ev in my experience.

Great report though.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: lutonrover on January 11, 2011, 11:42:21 AM
Carry on Boldie ....and good luck with that project


cheers


R


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 11, 2011, 11:45:44 AM
Last time I had a bet pre-race when not at the course?...Dunno, too long ago. Another part of the reason why I'm such a shit tipster these days prob.

You tried IR Boldie? I wouldn't go quite as far as Lutonrover but I wouldn't have anything to do with the all-weather pre. Ever! That double landed by the Quinlans at Lingfield last week was just lolutastic.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 11, 2011, 11:50:27 AM
Last time I had a bet pre-race when not at the course?...Dunno, too long ago. Another part of the reason why I'm such a shit tipster these days prob.

You tried IR Boldie? I wouldn't go quite as far as Lutonrover but I wouldn't have anything to do with the all-weather pre. Ever! That double landed by the Quinlans at Lingfield last week was just lolutastic.

I tried IR but find that the guys on course have the edge as pics are ussually delayed (even by a small amount that makes a big difference). I find that the jumps season is better suited to me doing Ir betting however I don't always find the time to watch a race that I have a bet in live. I don't bet on the AW..Try to stick to higher grade racing and all that stuff.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 11, 2011, 01:17:38 PM
Got any good jokes? Winter flu seems to be a hot topic atm, so something on that subject please.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 11, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
Damn that multi-dimensional Dick Lynch. Obv he goes on to finish fourth after that incredible effort with AJ. And I want a complementary 20% for giving me a bad neck.
I blame him completely for my table posture, the one-elbow-on-back-of-chair pose. Subconscious respect. Will try anything to run like him. But having your neck at 45 degress for hours on end, or several minutes in my case obv, can't do it any good.
It was either Fenland Physio Centre or Chinese Acupuncute place this moring. Physios only ever give you exercises to do in my experience. To be done daily. No interest in that thanks, just fix it and send me on my way please.
So I thought I'd give acupuncture a go. Not that it got that far. Consultation with interpreter turning fenland drawl into mandarin - 20mins, neck massage - 30mins. Then told him I had a car park ticket that ran out at 1pm. Not strictly true, wanted to play the 1.00 Leicester IR.
And I thought I'd see if the deep tissue massage did any good before letting him jab needles in me. Does feel a lot looser tbf.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 11, 2011, 01:58:41 PM
Thoughts on Fergie's return?

fair price for you to reach playoffs now?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on January 11, 2011, 02:03:32 PM
Would still take Eddie Howe but that's about a million to one. Probably best if he stays at Bournemouth though. Backed them +ridic no. of points on the handicap pre.

mucho respect to the man. 4 clubs after him, 2 offering to at least double his wages and he chooses to stay put. not much loyalty like that around nowadays. personally I think he's crazy though


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2011, 02:11:31 PM
Would still take Eddie Howe but that's about a million to one. Probably best if he stays at Bournemouth though. Backed them +ridic no. of points on the handicap pre.

mucho respect to the man. 4 clubs after him, 2 offering to at least double his wages and he chooses to stay put. not much loyalty like that around nowadays. personally I think he's crazy though

TBH I can't blame any manager for leaving any club if he's offered a better deal.

I remember a few years ago Chris Casper was in a similar position to Eddie Howe, everyone was raving about the job he was doing at Bury and he was in the frame for lots of other jobs. But he chose to stay.

Bury failed to get promotion and sold a couple of players (Bournemouth have sold Pitman and McQuoid) and suddenly they went downhill (pretty quickly).

About a year after he was the hottest property in the lower divsions Casper was sacked and unable to get another managers job.

Howe is indeed crazy not to take the dosh now.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 11, 2011, 02:14:31 PM
Go for the acupuncture...it's loverly


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on January 11, 2011, 02:15:24 PM
Got a lot of admiration for Howe

He obviously is a loyal sort. Indeed I think i read that when Bournemouth were in admin supporters clubbed together to pay his wages and he wants to repay that faith in him now

That said, as is said above, that sort of loyalty has a nasty habit of not being repaid in football. I hope it doesn't backfire on him


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2011, 02:17:59 PM
Got a lot of admiration for Howe

He obviously is a loyal sort. Indeed I think i read that when Bournemouth were in admin supporters clubbed together to pay his wages and he wants to repay that faith in him now

That said, as is said above, that sort of loyalty has a nasty habit of not being repaid in football. I hope it doesn't backfire on him

Compared to the squads of the other teams near the top of Division 1, Bournemnouth should have zero chance of promotion.

But they keep on bloody winning!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on January 11, 2011, 02:29:06 PM
Yes, and if it carries on for a few months he'll get a top Championship job in the summer. No disrespect to Crystal Palace, but there are challenges there that a job at say Derby, Burnley or Norwich (to pick three top half Champ jobs at random) don't have..ie he would stand more chance of success there


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 11, 2011, 02:29:46 PM
Ferguson, D    1/10
Oldfield, D    6
Blackwell, K   10
Paul Tisdale    10
Robson, M    10
Andy Scott    12
Hart, P    12

Looking like a done deal then. Would still love to know why he went to Preston but would be OK with him coming back. Obv him and Daragh have kissed and made up.
He'll be taking over one of the best squads in the league and am expecting Boydy to have a blinder tonight. Should take care of Brentford and will have a few quid on us scoring 4+ at 7.2 for a bit of interest.
Prediction is that, if he does take over as looks likely, he'll get us up again, we'll be bottom of the Championship next December, and he'll go to Ipswich or somewhere.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on January 11, 2011, 02:33:33 PM
Tisdale is another up and comer. Great job at Exeter.


Blackwell is another re-tread, offers nothing new. At these types of jobs (where you know its a stepping stone to better things if you are successful) you might as well go for young talent rather than the same old same old of the Blackwells


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2011, 02:38:28 PM
Ferguson, D    1/10
Oldfield, D    6
Blackwell, K   10
Paul Tisdale    10
Robson, M    10
Andy Scott    12
Hart, P    12

Looking like a done deal then. Would still love to know why he went to Preston but would be OK with him coming back. Obv him and Daragh have kissed and made up.
He'll be taking over one of the best squads in the league and am expecting Boydy to have a blinder tonight. Should take care of Brentford and will have a few quid on us scoring 4+ at 7.2 for a bit of interest.
Prediction is that, if he does take over as looks likely, he'll get us up again, we'll be bottom of the Championship next December, and he'll go to Ipswich or somewhere.

Ewww @ the overround on that book.

Whose prices are those?

I don't think Peterbrough will go up this season (unless they win the lottery of the playoffs), Brighton, Southampton and Huddersfield are all far too well equipped to fall away.

One of those teams might skid to a halt, but to expect two to fail is pretty optimistic.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on January 11, 2011, 02:45:22 PM
Fantastic news for us Cherries supporters that Eddie is staying. I'm sure he's destined for great things....but not just yet ;)

lol he went from 1/4 to 1/25  this morning to join Palace !!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 11, 2011, 03:00:41 PM
Skybet prices but doubt they'll have taken more than a few quid and all of it will have been for FerJu, who's gone from 1-3, through 1-6, to 1-10 today.
The overround is Trigg-like but good on'em for at least putting up a token market. Good for Poshies who want some sort of indicator as to what's going on.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Pelham Boy on January 11, 2011, 03:00:56 PM
Joe Lewis hands in transfer request after club turned down an offer from a Premier League club.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2011, 03:06:31 PM
Skybet prices but doubt they'll have taken more than a few quid and all of it will have been for FerJu, who's gone from 1-3, through 1-6, to 1-10 today.
The overround is Trigg-like but good on'em for at least putting up a token market. Good for Poshies who want some sort of indicator as to what's going on.

Jesus, they even have a market for next Walsall manager.

Wonder how much they'll take on a 33/1 shot.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2011, 04:49:38 PM
Just been re-reading a few of those poker interviews I did for the Post. Sure they won't mind me copying and pasting this one (you'd really have to know where you're looking to find it on the website):

KEITH HAWKINS discovered poker while in his midteens, starting off playing five-card draw and fivecard stud in a school game that also included Neil Channing.

He's since amassed more than $800,000 in live tournament cashes, despite not being a regular feature on the circuit as he focuses more on playing online.

Live highlights have included winning the UK Open in 2002 for about £40,000, winning a tournament at The Vic for £30,000 and, more recently, finishing 75th in last year's World Series Of Poker Main Event.

"I started playing quiz machines while I was at college," says Hawkins, "and they gave me the disregard for money you need in order to play poker successfully. I could easily earn £100 during a lunchtime. Then I'd trundle off to the bookies and, more often than not, lose the lot.

"I'd only really played cash poker until I went to Reading Grosvenor Casino one night to play blackjack. There was a £5 poker tournament on and I couldn't resist signing up. The rest is history.

"I've played tournament poker pretty much for a living since 1993, starting off at a low level in Reading, Luton and Southampton before gradually moving further afield as the success started.

"It was during my first big tournament, in Amsterdam, that I picked up the nickname ‘The Camel'. During a break, at around 11pm, I rushed to get a pint and bumped into a friend, who had beenpropping up the bar all day.

"After a couple of lines about drink problems, I said ‘I don't have a problem, I can go days without a drink'. His reply was ‘well, you must be a ******* camel then'.

"I went on to make the final and the fellow had a word with the MC, asking him to introduce me as Keith ‘The Camel' Hawkins. That made me laugh, helped me to relax, and it's stuck ever since.

"My interest in gambling started with horseracing back in 1974, when I was just six. My next-door neighbour couldn't stop talking about a horse she fancied for the Derby and put two weeks' pocket money on for me.

"That horse was Snow Knight, who sluiced up at 66-1 - I was hooked. We lived pretty close to Kempton and I got my dad to takeme racing as often as possible. We moved to Ascot and I went to every King George from Troy to Lammtarra.

"Gambling has definitely got a lot tougher over the last 20 years or so and Betfair, along with odds comparison sites, havepretty much ruined betting for me.

"In the old days it was your opinion versus the bookmakers. You could get rewarded for being shrewd. If you were able to price up races accurately, you could win.

"But now, thanks to the exchanges, everyone knows the correct odds of every horse in every race and, if a bookmaker puts his head above the ground and offers a bigger price, the arbers descend like vultures.

"Ego is the single biggest failing in most would-be professional gamblers. Not many people have heard of the biggest winning punters I know - they are not interested in publicity. These ego-driven gamblers that appear on TV are bad for the rest of us. It makes it tougher getting bets on.

"You won't find me on TV at the moment, certainly not with the way televised tournaments are structured. It's a disgrace that sponsors don't add money to events. Can you imagine Tiger Woods turning up to play without sponsors adding money?

"As for the future of poker, the old brigade need to stop believing their own hype and realise that youngsters are taking over the game. Some of these kids have played more hands in a year online than I managed in 25 years. They understand concepts that live players have never considered.

"They are bright, intelligent and eager to learn. I had three of them to my left in the GUKPT at Luton last month. I doubt any of them were older than 25,but, boy, were they tough. I still like to believe I have an edge in live tournaments, but it's nothing like three of four years ago, which is why I've scaled things down.

"Don't get me wrong, it is still a great life and there'snothing I'd rather do than play poker for a living, but now it's easier to play online and bet in-running on the exchanges.

"That's something I've found myself doing more and more since my son was born and it's good to be able tospend time with him. But I'll be back on the road more over the next year. I've just started a project with a friend who is going to write a book covering a year on the circuit.

"He wants a professional player to accompany him togive him advice. The fact he's a better player than me doesn't seem to bother him!"


What happened to the book Keith? Still in the pipeline?

The book is supposedly "in the pipeline" still. I don't think he's written more than a chapter though.

He is very successful in the City and made alot of people alot of money.

He used the year to get payback for 15 years of doing other people favours, they put up all the money for the tour and we had a great time.

He's back in the City now, making them fortunes again.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 11, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
this is my fav diary thread.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 11, 2011, 05:32:24 PM
this is my fav diary thread.

:(


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Waz1892 on January 11, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Ferguson, D    1/10
Oldfield, D    6
Blackwell, K   10
Paul Tisdale    10
Robson, M    10
Andy Scott    12
Hart, P    12

Would still love to know why he went to Preston

Live in Peterborough myself, and a huge rumour confirmed by a good source to me was that he was playing better away than Posh were at the time..that player has since left ..opening a clear way back to the club.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 11, 2011, 08:31:04 PM
Ferguson, D    1/10
Oldfield, D    6
Blackwell, K   10
Paul Tisdale    10
Robson, M    10
Andy Scott    12
Hart, P    12

Would still love to know why he went to Preston

Live in Peterborough myself, and a huge rumour confirmed by a good source to me was that he was playing better away than Posh were at the time..that player has since left ..opening a clear way back to the club.

Waz, chompy plays at LUTON and does his IR on BETFAIR. You see where i'm going with this?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Waz1892 on January 11, 2011, 08:34:58 PM
Ferguson, D    1/10
Oldfield, D    6
Blackwell, K   10
Paul Tisdale    10
Robson, M    10
Andy Scott    12
Hart, P    12

Would still love to know why he went to Preston

Live in Peterborough myself, and a huge rumour confirmed by a good source to me was that he was playing better away than Posh were at the time..that player has since left ..opening a clear way back to the club.

Waz, chompy plays at LUTON and does his IR on BETFAIR. You see where i'm going with this?

 ;)

I do I do!  Pm sent!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 11, 2011, 08:35:41 PM
Ferguson, D    1/10
Oldfield, D    6
Blackwell, K   10
Paul Tisdale    10
Robson, M    10
Andy Scott    12
Hart, P    12

Would still love to know why he went to Preston

Live in Peterborough myself, and a huge rumour confirmed by a good source to me was that he was playing better away than Posh were at the time..that player has since left ..opening a clear way back to the club.

Waz, chompy plays at LUTON and does his IR on BETFAIR. You see where i'm going with this?

 ;)

I do I do!  Pm sent!

:)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on January 11, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
It would certainly be churlish of Chompy to refuse Waz given his love of Luton and all things Betfair

Good job celtic.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on January 11, 2011, 10:12:45 PM
Who is the kid in your forum pic pls Chompy ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 11, 2011, 10:17:17 PM
Who is the kid in your forum pic pls Chompy ?

Lee Tomlin i think. See his sig line.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 11, 2011, 10:24:12 PM
Yep, Waz, heard that rumour, the one involving Fergie and a certain busty star of IACGMOOH. Don't believe it meself but who knows?

Boydy poor again tonight, McCann had a rare good game, CMS different gear as usual. Mixed reception for Joe Lewis. Don't blame him one bit myself. Sit behind the worst defence in the league or go to the Premiership? Hmm.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Waz1892 on January 11, 2011, 10:33:35 PM
Yep, Waz, heard that rumour, the one involving Fergie and a certain busty star of IACGMOOH. Don't believe it meself but who knows?
Boydy poor again tonight, McCann had a rare good game, CMS different gear as usual. Mixed reception for Joe Lewis. Don't blame him one bit myself. Sit behind the worst defence in the league or go to the Premiership? Hmm.

Believe!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 12, 2011, 11:01:23 AM
If Fergie Jnr had fancied something blonde, with little or no talent and a large pair of tits, wouldn't he have just gone out and signed Scott Rendell? Umm...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 12, 2011, 11:14:42 AM
It's a mystery.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Xpressman on January 12, 2011, 11:41:14 PM
Good read Chomps - Keep up the good Work

Best football Moment ?

Your Personal Goals or 2011 ?

Most Annoying Things about The G ?

Best things about The G ?

Your thoughts of the Most Improved players at the G ?

What do you think is the best form of betting on Betfair, I personally think lower league football is as i feel i have a edge as regards to the Teams and whats going on in the Camps of the clubs ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 13, 2011, 07:38:11 AM
Another blow to racing, and goes to show that you should indeed leave AW racing well enough alone.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/g-a-huffer-jeff-pearce-lingfield-a-w-pearce-and-huffer-warned-off-in-sabre-light-inquiry/807476/top/

In the RP itsself it states that his Mrs might now apply for a license (as she did before when he got sent to jail after a car crash), surely that should be denied?


And what do you think of Johnson's comments in the RP today saying "He's done nothing wrong at all but is being made out to be the black sheep" and "I haven't done one thing wrong to British racing and that's the truth". Does he just not get it?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 13, 2011, 11:25:50 AM
Another blow to racing, and goes to show that you should indeed leave AW racing well enough alone.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/g-a-huffer-jeff-pearce-lingfield-a-w-pearce-and-huffer-warned-off-in-sabre-light-inquiry/807476/top/

In the RP itsself it states that his Mrs might now apply for a license (as she did before when he got sent to jail after a car crash), surely that should be denied?


And what do you think of Johnson's comments in the RP today saying "He's done nothing wrong at all but is being made out to be the black sheep" and "I haven't done one thing wrong to British racing and that's the truth". Does he just not get it?


Why is this a blow to racing?

Throwing cheats out of the game seems like a pretty good thing to me.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 13, 2011, 11:31:51 AM
Drink driver Jeff Pearce is no worse than a lot of them tbf. The AW is absolute filth. Stunning how many gambles get landed.
Yesterday was typical. I'm not saying it was a non-jigger but Fenton would have been pulled in in a lot of countries for the ride he gave that newcomer in the Lingfield maiden. Absolutely no way that shouldn't have finished second.

Not sure this story will make any difference to how racing is perceived by the man in the street. Most of them believe it's bent and it's gonna take a lot to change that view. Not sure it's possible in truth.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nakor on January 13, 2011, 11:39:53 AM
Another blow to racing, and goes to show that you should indeed leave AW racing well enough alone.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/g-a-huffer-jeff-pearce-lingfield-a-w-pearce-and-huffer-warned-off-in-sabre-light-inquiry/807476/top/

In the RP itsself it states that his Mrs might now apply for a license (as she did before when he got sent to jail after a car crash), surely that should be denied?


And what do you think of Johnson's comments in the RP today saying "He's done nothing wrong at all but is being made out to be the black sheep" and "I haven't done one thing wrong to British racing and that's the truth". Does he just not get it?


Why is this a blow to racing?


Throwing cheats out of the game seems like a pretty good thing to me.

It makes people like me (the casual racegoer/punter) less likely to go to a meeting as it's another story that makes you doubt the honesty of the sport.
Sadly one bad egg tarnishes the reputation for all.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 13, 2011, 11:49:24 AM
Another blow to racing, and goes to show that you should indeed leave AW racing well enough alone.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/g-a-huffer-jeff-pearce-lingfield-a-w-pearce-and-huffer-warned-off-in-sabre-light-inquiry/807476/top/

In the RP itsself it states that his Mrs might now apply for a license (as she did before when he got sent to jail after a car crash), surely that should be denied?


And what do you think of Johnson's comments in the RP today saying "He's done nothing wrong at all but is being made out to be the black sheep" and "I haven't done one thing wrong to British racing and that's the truth". Does he just not get it?


Why is this a blow to racing?


Throwing cheats out of the game seems like a pretty good thing to me.

It makes people like me (the casual racegoer/punter) less likely to go to a meeting as it's another story that makes you doubt the honesty of the sport.
Sadly one bad egg tarnishes the reputation for all.

Really?

I think most casual punters believe racing is totally bent/fixed and that was part of the mystique/intrigue of the sport.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nakor on January 13, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
Another blow to racing, and goes to show that you should indeed leave AW racing well enough alone.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/g-a-huffer-jeff-pearce-lingfield-a-w-pearce-and-huffer-warned-off-in-sabre-light-inquiry/807476/top/

In the RP itsself it states that his Mrs might now apply for a license (as she did before when he got sent to jail after a car crash), surely that should be denied?


And what do you think of Johnson's comments in the RP today saying "He's done nothing wrong at all but is being made out to be the black sheep" and "I haven't done one thing wrong to British racing and that's the truth". Does he just not get it?


Why is this a blow to racing?


Throwing cheats out of the game seems like a pretty good thing to me.

It makes people like me (the casual racegoer/punter) less likely to go to a meeting as it's another story that makes you doubt the honesty of the sport.
Sadly one bad egg tarnishes the reputation for all.

Really?

I think most casual punters believe racing was totally bent/fixed and that was part of the mystique/intrigue of the sport.

I think your comment shows the difference between a real punter and a casual punter.  No intrigue in the thought that you have not got a fair result for me and to be honest the more you learn about the sport the worse it seems, for you it does seem you except it as part of the game as it were.

I find I tend to follow, one stable or one jockey or one horse in the hope that it is straight up - as long as that stable etc is "honest" it seems easier to stomach and let all the bad press wash past.

The sport in general does seem to have a huge acceptance of bad/dodgy practice - was it always as bad before the creation of the exchanges?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 13, 2011, 12:08:42 PM
Another blow to racing, and goes to show that you should indeed leave AW racing well enough alone.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/g-a-huffer-jeff-pearce-lingfield-a-w-pearce-and-huffer-warned-off-in-sabre-light-inquiry/807476/top/

In the RP itsself it states that his Mrs might now apply for a license (as she did before when he got sent to jail after a car crash), surely that should be denied?


And what do you think of Johnson's comments in the RP today saying "He's done nothing wrong at all but is being made out to be the black sheep" and "I haven't done one thing wrong to British racing and that's the truth". Does he just not get it?


Why is this a blow to racing?


Throwing cheats out of the game seems like a pretty good thing to me.

It makes people like me (the casual racegoer/punter) less likely to go to a meeting as it's another story that makes you doubt the honesty of the sport.
Sadly one bad egg tarnishes the reputation for all.

Pretty much this.

Especially the AW is terrible for it (though non-triers are not limited to that).

Everyone wants decent racing for decent prizemoney and the only way to do that is to get sponsors to stump up the cash, for people to go to the racecourse and people to have a bet on it.
The AW is already terrible with prizemoney and full of shitty horses that, frankly, should never even see a race course.
 Lingfield 's AW meetings have more staff and bookies working than there are punters (if you believe the stories in the RP and from the on track bookies), this is not going to get better if stories like this keep clogging up the papers.
Especially after the, alleged, "boost" that McCoy winning SPOTY has given racing and great champions like Kauto, Denman, Sea The Stars, etc that get a few lines in the pages with a positive mention..one story like this sets racing back ages and just makes it dirty again.

MrsB quite enjoys going to the races, I am sure she would love to see a horse like Kauto run (though her fav was Exotic Dancer, sigh). When she hears me talking about Kauto or the GC she understands that something special is going on and makes her want to go to a race course (Meydan was a great start last year but even if it's Ripon or Hamilton..actually both lovely courses..she quite enjoys it for a while), but stories like this put her off racing.

Racing doesn't want people visiting that think racing is all bent and " isn't that fascinating?" That 's not how you attract the majority of people. Racing should be a clean sport, people should not have to question it's integrity everytime their horse doesn't win. They should be able to treat it as a nice clean family day out (ussually with a concert afterwards these days) and maybe, just maybe, they get to see a special horse that they can follow for the rest of it's career.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 13, 2011, 12:22:33 PM
Another blow to racing, and goes to show that you should indeed leave AW racing well enough alone.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/g-a-huffer-jeff-pearce-lingfield-a-w-pearce-and-huffer-warned-off-in-sabre-light-inquiry/807476/top/

In the RP itsself it states that his Mrs might now apply for a license (as she did before when he got sent to jail after a car crash), surely that should be denied?


And what do you think of Johnson's comments in the RP today saying "He's done nothing wrong at all but is being made out to be the black sheep" and "I haven't done one thing wrong to British racing and that's the truth". Does he just not get it?


Why is this a blow to racing?


Throwing cheats out of the game seems like a pretty good thing to me.

It makes people like me (the casual racegoer/punter) less likely to go to a meeting as it's another story that makes you doubt the honesty of the sport.
Sadly one bad egg tarnishes the reputation for all.

Really?

I think most casual punters believe racing was totally bent/fixed and that was part of the mystique/intrigue of the sport.

I think your comment shows the difference between a real punter and a casual punter.  No intrigue in the thought that you have not got a fair result for me and to be honest the more you learn about the sport the worse it seems, for you it does seem you except it as part of the game as it were.

I find I tend to follow, one stable or one jockey or one horse in the hope that it is straight up - as long as that stable etc is "honest" it seems easier to stomach and let all the bad press wash past.

The sport in general does seem to have a huge acceptance of bad/dodgy practice - was it always as bad before the creation of the exchanges?

I'd be surprised if you were in a majority.

Alot of casual punters have read a Dick Francis novel or two and followed the Fallon trial in the papers and think skullduggery is all part of the game.

I would guess stories like Howard Johnson's neglect of his horses or Katie Walsh brutal treatment of her mount when winning at Cheltenham last season (it brought tears to my eyes even) are far more damaging to racing than a band of cheats caught cheating.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Jon MW on January 13, 2011, 12:32:47 PM
I think you might be working on different definitions of 'casual' punter


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 13, 2011, 12:33:55 PM
Quote
I would guess stories like Howard Johnson's neglect of his horses or Katie Walsh brutal treatment of her mount when winning at Cheltenham last season (it brought tears to my eyes even) are far more damaging to racing than a band of cheats caught cheating.

That's true, horse welfare was a major issue a few years ago (if I remember correctly) and things like this are a massive problem. If people get the perception that all race horses are mis-treated, don't enjoy racing and are not taken care of properly the sport is completely fecked.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 13, 2011, 12:38:37 PM

The greatest blonde Diary ever ever ever.*

*May be slightly untrue.

This one went off at 1/3 to be Diary of the Year, & will win hard-held.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 13, 2011, 03:35:43 PM
I am just awesome at betting IR. After 2h45m of non-stop racing, I am...

Horse Racing: £0.04 | Tote: |  Total P&L:  £0.04


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: GreekStein on January 13, 2011, 03:42:20 PM
How do we know that's true Chomps.

Post a screenshot.

Blatch lied about those figures all the time. How do we know you didn't actually make 3p or 5p?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 14, 2011, 12:40:46 PM

Midday, & no update?

Shocking. Knew it would never last beyond a fortnight......


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 14, 2011, 01:17:48 PM
Aargh, I am so on tilt with myself. Should have just won the world in the first at Huntingdon but only just woken up innit.

Ten runners in a handicap hurdle. The hurdles course is on the outside of the chase course and, over 2m5f, they meet a dividing rail after about 100 yards. I know this much, only been there about a million times.

Only two jockeys went to the left of this rail. Eight went the other way, one of whom then pulled up, thinking (correctly) he'd gone the wrong way.

The two who went the right way then ambled round in their own private race and the winner of that pair, Dancing Daffodil, could have been backed at 50! Last price matched...20

Could also have laid Rawaaj, first home of the seven to go inside the rail, at 1.05. That's 1/20 about a horse I should have insta-realised had taken the wrong course. FML.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: luther101 on January 14, 2011, 01:35:51 PM
Aargh, I am so on tilt with myself. Should have just won the world in the first at Huntingdon but only just woken up innit.

[ x ]  Blatant, "I succeeded in making the final two tables at Luton last night" boast!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 14, 2011, 01:40:36 PM
Aargh, I am so on tilt with myself. Should have just won the world in the first at Huntingdon but only just woken up innit.

[ x ]  Blatant, "I succeeded in making the final two tables at Luton last night" boast!

impressive..2 final tables but that still probably meant he lost money taking into account missing those Huntingdon races


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 14, 2011, 01:52:01 PM
Nah, I was up and about and sat in front of my PC when the Hunningdon race was being run Boldie. Just head not in gear. Sat there staring at the TV rather than going all in. My fault.
Best days on Betty have always come after a gym session to get the blood pumping. Waking up at half eleven and chomping on coco pops rocks when they're jumping away for the first at Lingfield isn't ideal.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 14, 2011, 01:55:13 PM
what set up do you have? Seperate office with a telly (or two, one ATR one RUK?) on the wall or just sitting in the living room with the laptop in front of you?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 14, 2011, 02:04:39 PM
Laptop on sofa? Nah, that defo can't be done.

Got it all set up. Couple of PCs, just in case broadband goes down on one, and a couple of TVs, one for Sky and one for terrestrial.

Betting IR can be done off ATR and RUK despite what you'll hear. Over and over and over again. Just don't play near fences/hurdles and final furlong/run-in on ATR and it's fine imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: GreekStein on January 14, 2011, 02:27:54 PM
Do you go to the gym with Dean?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on January 14, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
Nah, I was up and about and sat in front of my PC when the Hunningdon race was being run Boldie. Just head not in gear. Sat there staring at the TV rather than going all in. My fault.
Best days on Betty have always come after a gym session to get the blood pumping. Waking up at half eleven and chomping on coco pops rocks when they're jumping away for the first at Lingfield isn't ideal.

lolz


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 14, 2011, 02:54:30 PM
No tourney reports or running profit/loss figures for poker. Why not?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 14, 2011, 02:58:51 PM
Poker running total is -£520 after four tournaments.

Two for January please Tighty...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on January 14, 2011, 03:43:21 PM
Do you go to the gym with Dean?

Seriously...does chompy look like he goes to the gym ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: GreekStein on January 14, 2011, 03:44:42 PM
Do you go to the gym with Dean?

Seriously...does chompy look like he goes to the gym ?

Dunno he might do a pilates class once a week while you're doing shoulders or something.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: luther101 on January 14, 2011, 03:58:21 PM
Do you go to the gym with Dean?

Seriously...does chompy look like he goes to the gym ?

Dunno he might do a pilates class once a week while you're doing shoulders or something.

Dunno about pilots      ......      but a few 'male' cabin crew have been entertained in Chompy's w(h)ine cellar (allegedly).




Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 14, 2011, 05:42:48 PM
Got a lot of admiration for Howe

He obviously is a loyal sort. Indeed I think i read that when Bournemouth were in admin supporters clubbed together to pay his wages and he wants to repay that faith in him now

That said, as is said above, that sort of loyalty has a nasty habit of not being repaid in football. I hope it doesn't backfire on him

Compared to the squads of the other teams near the top of Division 1, Bournemnouth should have zero chance of promotion.

But they keep on bloody winning!

Howe set to be named new Burnley boss.

Interesting what the reaction of the Bournemouth fans will be tonight.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on January 14, 2011, 06:51:11 PM
Howe set to be named new Burnley boss.

Interesting what the reaction of the Bournemouth fans will be tonight.

if it goes through then I'm baffled. truly bizarre


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 14, 2011, 07:01:47 PM
Howe set to be named new Burnley boss.

Interesting what the reaction of the Bournemouth fans will be tonight.

if it goes through then I'm baffled. truly bizarre

The only I'm surprised about is the timing.

Only a couple of days after he says he's staying, surely he was aware of Burnley's interest. Makes Howe look a bit silly.

Burnley hae a really good squad (Paterson, Eagles, Jensen all excellent) and should be in the play offs at least so about a 30% chance of Prem football next season.

Palace and Charlton probably will be both in Div 1 next season, only in the long term will it be an improvement on Bournemouth.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on January 14, 2011, 07:11:04 PM
Yeh I think it's understandable but this week shouldn't have done the "Eddie has decided to stay". "Eddie has turned down Charlton & Palace would have been better. Burnley is a decent top end championship job.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on January 14, 2011, 07:31:16 PM

The only I'm surprised about is the timing.

Only a couple of days after he says he's staying, surely he was aware of Burnley's interest. Makes Howe look a bit silly.


100% he was aware, he had offers on the table from palace, charlton and burnley at the same time. the whole thing makes no sense


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on January 14, 2011, 10:30:27 PM
Nah, I was up and about and sat in front of my PC when the Hunningdon race was being run Boldie. Just head not in gear. Sat there staring at the TV rather than going all in. My fault.
Best days on Betty have always come after a gym session to get the blood pumping. Waking up at half eleven and chomping on coco pops rocks when they're jumping away for the first at Lingfield isn't ideal.

ffs ive gone off this diary!

mental image i could have done without too


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Simon Galloway on January 15, 2011, 11:32:29 AM


Got it all set up. Couple of PCs, just in case broadband goes down on one

Eh????  One PC and 2 ISPs ftw?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 15, 2011, 12:14:10 PM
Close, two PCs and two ISPs. Baller obv.

The spare one is usually on Facebook Scrabble at the moment, which is gonna have to stop.

Was mid-game during the last at Wolver last night and about to back the winner when I saw the scrabz timer was on 10sec. A few seconds later the price was down from 7 to 5.2. Still got on but it cost me a few quid. More discipline needed.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 15, 2011, 12:15:42 PM
Are you mainly a backer or layer in running and do you mainly trade in running?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 15, 2011, 12:20:31 PM
Would think around 60/40 laying/backing. Day like today I'd expect to play 25-30 races and will trade wherever poss. Looking forward to this arvo, five meetings, non-stop.

Ideal day - bag up and Posh win 3-0 at Brighton
Less-ideal day - -£500 and Fergie Jnr sacked for trying to give Georgey Boyd one in the bath at 5pm


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 15, 2011, 01:58:07 PM

How much of a surprise was the West Ham & Martin O'Neill news to you? He's not exactly going to have much money to work with. Struck me as a little odd.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 15, 2011, 03:00:53 PM
His Mrs didn't want to have to change the colour scheme imo. Honestly wouldn't have much idea, Premiership football is no real interest to me in truth.

I swear I'll start blubbing if Kauto wins this. Go on the Kauto!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 15, 2011, 03:03:57 PM

I swear I'll start blubbing if Kauto wins this. Go on the Kauto!

This


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 15, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Mccoy riding Kauto...and Kauto reaching..... :(


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 15, 2011, 03:07:41 PM
Well done Tom Segal.

BTW Chompy, have you ever wanted to punch Tom's face in just for making it look soo easy?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 15, 2011, 03:10:20 PM
LOLZ, me and Tom both started out at Weatherbys back in the early 90s, same office for five years or so. He's famous now of course.
Always liked Tom, takes nothing seriously. Awesome tipsterer too, especially in big handicaps.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 15, 2011, 03:12:24 PM
LOLZ, me and Tom both started out at Weatherbys back in the early 90s, same office for five years or so. He's famous now of course.
Always liked Tom, takes nothing seriously. Awesome tipsterer too, especially in big handicaps.

I'll take that as a yes :) He's just unreal.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 15, 2011, 03:32:29 PM
Ferguson out!

Boooooooooooooooo!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 15, 2011, 08:48:14 PM
Wow! I'd have to say that was the best ever episode of 'In It To Win It'. Anyone else see it?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on January 15, 2011, 08:49:22 PM
Wow! I'd have to say that was the best ever episode of 'In It To Win It'. Anyone else see it?

i watched it for the first time so i could know what you were on about.  glad i got to see the best one, coz i doubt i'll watch it again.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 12:15:32 PM

Very sad to see Kauto beaten. Unless you work for a bookie.......

Question. Imagine you worked for a bookie, who took a lot of money on football betting. What sort of day would you think they had yesterday?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 16, 2011, 12:24:37 PM

Very sad to see Kauto beaten. Unless you work for a bookie.......

Question. Imagine you worked for a bookie, who took a lot of money on football betting. What sort of day would you think they had yesterday?

Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City all won at short prices and there were no draws in the Premiership.

Unless the bookie was worst price about all of those named they should have lost shed loads.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 16, 2011, 12:27:47 PM

Very sad to see Kauto beaten. Unless you work for a bookie.......

Question. Imagine you worked for a bookie, who took a lot of money on football betting. What sort of day would you think they had yesterday?

Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City all won at short prices and there were no draws in the Premiership.

Unless the bookie was worst price about all of those named they should have lost shed loads.

This. Been some great weeks this year though to make up for it.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 16, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
These punterers that put Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Rangers and Celtic in an acca every week. Do they really exist?

Poor old Kauto, looks like age and all those hard races at the top level have caught up with him. Never looked like he was gonna win yesterday but didn't have the heart to lay him. Nicholls no excuses.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 12:57:00 PM

Very sad to see Kauto beaten. Unless you work for a bookie.......

Question. Imagine you worked for a bookie, who took a lot of money on football betting. What sort of day would you think they had yesterday?

Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City all won at short prices and there were no draws in the Premiership.

Unless the bookie was worst price about all of those named they should have lost shed loads.

This. Been some great weeks this year though to make up for it.

Spot on. Week after week, there has been an acca-buster, what an incred Season.

It had to end though, & yesterday was the day.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 01:06:21 PM
These punterers that put Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Rangers and Celtic in an acca every week. Do they really exist?

Poor old Kauto, looks like age and all those hard races at the top level have caught up with him. Never looked like he was gonna win yesterday but didn't have the heart to lay him. Nicholls no excuses.

Just a bit! It's quite common to see 50,000 or 100,000 "lines" which all embrace the regular favs. It only wants one to fail & it's a good day.

Singles betting rarely loses or wins much, & does not matter, because, relative to multiples & accas, it's very small, & VERY esaily managed.

So, days like yesterday are good for the punters, & bad for the bookies, obv.

If only winning punters had, on the same account, the ability to go & spin up their winnings on an Online Slots site, it'd be some clever business model. Oh, wait......

Suffice to say, Sky Vegas will have an awesome day today, as will the Poker Cash Tables.

Today's big matches will not, I fancy, win or lose much. The Liverpool derby will be largely cash-neutral, & I suppose Man Utd will cost a few bob if they win at WHL, but the price will be skinny. Doubles on the 2 matches will also be fairly spread, though winning or losing today will 100% hinge upon those 2 matches.

I adore seeing the "other side" of a bookmaker, it fulfils my urge to bet, without even betting.

This morning, I got the "Best & Worst Reslts of the Day", as usual, so I now have teams to support, or not.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 16, 2011, 01:17:48 PM
I don't get it. At all. What's the point of having a £50 acca on five or six big guns every Saturday? What's your edge and what do you suppose you know that the bookies don't?
Bookies must love'em. Doing the same old bets even though the Premiership is far more competitive now and anyone can beat anyone on any given day. GG long term innit?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 16, 2011, 01:26:07 PM
I don't get it. At all. What's the point of having a £50 acca on five or six big guns every Saturday? What's your edge and what do you suppose you know that the bookies don't?
Bookies must love'em. Doing the same old bets even though the Premiership is far more competitive now and anyone can beat anyone on any given day. GG long term innit?

People pick loads of accas then see the pay out odds then can't resist chucking a couple of 1/3's in the mix to bump up the returns a little. Bookies absolutely love them.





Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 01:36:44 PM
I don't get it. At all. What's the point of having a £50 acca on five or six big guns every Saturday? What's your edge and what do you suppose you know that the bookies don't?
Bookies must love'em. Doing the same old bets even though the Premiership is far more competitive now and anyone can beat anyone on any given day. GG long term innit?

Betting is no different to Poker in that respect. A little bit of clever money, &  lot of no-hopers.

I learned early doors, when I worked in a bookies on a Saturday, as a settler. (Pre-Genies & Computers, all settling done in the head).

I worked for a Jewish guy, right sharp he was, & he taught me, as did the betting slips, the folly of multiples & accas. "They can beat me once, now & then they can beat me twice, very rarely can they beat me 3 times" he'd say of the Multiple backers. It's like wining at roulette & leaving the winnings on the number.

I was, maybe, 20, & wet behind the ears as to Betting, but I had sole responsibility for settlng all the multiples. In those day, they had something called the "ITV Seven", & the armchair punters loved it. I'd start of with a pile of slips 6 inches high, & work through them after every race. By race three, I'd rarely have a few dozen left, by race 4, it would be 3 or 4.

Dickie Davies would be on the Telly, & after a 20/1 shot romped home in the first, he'd yell "wow, GREAT start to the ITV 7, a 20/1 shot means everyone has £2 going onto Leg 2". And my man would sit there, chewing his fat cigar, smiling quietly.

If it were a favs day, Dickie would say "BAD news for the punters, the ITV 7 is only £400 today", & I'm thinking, "is this bloke MAD?"!

I did the "Board", too, priced it up off Extel, & I had this weird stupid thing of writing 3/2 instead of 6/4, & 10/3 instead of 100/30. Without fail, punters would complain, "oi, they quoted 6/4 not 3/2 you thieving bastard". One day I said "sorry mate, my mistake, I'll let you have a tenner at 11/8", & the geezer bit my hand off.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 01:38:18 PM

I always wanted to mix with gambing peeps, card players, those sorts. This thread is heaven, I'm right in my zone here.

I'll try not to hijack it though.

 ;scarymoment;


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Graham C on January 16, 2011, 01:39:01 PM

I adore seeing the "other side" of a bookmaker, it fulfils my urge to bet, without even betting.

I was thinking it must be pretty interesting to see behind the scenes what's going on


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 16, 2011, 01:40:13 PM
I don't get it. At all. What's the point of having a £50 acca on five or six big guns every Saturday? What's your edge and what do you suppose you know that the bookies don't?
Bookies must love'em. Doing the same old bets even though the Premiership is far more competitive now and anyone can beat anyone on any given day. GG long term innit?

Betting is no different to Poker in that respect. A little bit of clever money, &  lot of no-hopers.

I learned early doors, when I worked in a bookies on a Saturday, as a settler. (Pre-Genies & Computers, all settling done in the head).

I worked for a Jewish guy, right sharp he was, & he taught me, as did the betting slips, the folly of multiples & accas. "They can beat me once, now & then they can beat me twice, very rarely can they beat me 3 times" he'd say of the Multiple backers. It's like wining at roulette & leaving the winnings on the number.

I was, maybe, 20, & wet behind the ears as to Betting, but I had sole responsibility for settlng all the multiples. In those day, they had something called the "ITV Seven", & the armchair punters loved it. I'd start of with a pile of slips 6 inches high, & work through them after every race. By race three, I'd rarely have a few dozen left, by race 4, it would be 3 or 4.

Dickie Davies would be on the Telly, & after a 20/1 shot romped home in the first, he'd yell "wow, GREAT start to the ITV 7, a 20/1 shot means everyone has £2 going onto Leg 2". And my man would sit there, chewing his fat cigar, smiling quietly.

If it were a favs day, Dickie would say "BAD news for the punters, the ITV 7 is only £400 today", & I'm thinking, "is this bloke MAD?"!

I did the "Board", too, priced it up off Extel, & I had this weird stupid thing of writing 3/2 instead of 6/4, & 10/3 instead of 100/30. Without fail, punters would complain, "oi, they quoted 6/4 not 3/2 you thieving bastard". One day I said "sorry mate, my mistake, I'll let you have a tenner at 11/8", & the geezer bit my hand off.

Aye, weighty win singles scare the bookie. nothing else.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 16, 2011, 02:14:54 PM
Aah, jumpers for goalsposts...

The ITV7 was before my time but love a bit of reminiscing about the good old days spent in bookies. All afternoon a lot of days the two years I was in the sixth form. Only ever 10p yankees, or 20p each-way doubles back then though.

Then over to the snooker club to play the quiz machine for a change of pace occasionally. We used to pwn that. Me and a guy called Nick Robinson, who's now a postman round these parts. Saw him a few weeks ago. Asked him if he still gambled. "No", he said. "Why not?". "Because I used to lose all the time". Good enough reason I guess.

Myself and two others from school were always in there, Mark McAteer and Paul 'Bullshit' Barnes. No idea what became of either of them. Paul Barnes picked up his nickname after backing a horse called El Toro one day and coming out with some ridic tale of being chased by a bull somewhere or other. Can't remember the exact story but it was pretty standard for him.

Then there was 'Shouty Waitrose Bag'. Guess I've always been one for nicks thinking about it. He used to shout home every winner - he sure did back any of them - and always carried a Waitrose carrier bag with him. Dunno what was in it. Probably road kill but never looked. Inspired piece of nicknamery though obv.

Overriding memories are of prices being penned up on the board by a miserable old Scotch woman. Also, the smell of the carbon copies you used to keep. Ladbrokes slips. Loved that smell. And smoking. A lot. And the Extel commentaries with final furlongs lasting about two minutes and every horse getting a mention.

Think that's why I have fonder memories of horses from back then. There were no pictures so you could only form a sort of mental picture of what they were like from their names.

These names probably won't mean a lot to anyone else but they give me a bit of the warm and fuzzies. Chasers like Kincses, Palace Yard, Yangtse Kiang, The Welder, and sprinters like Cree Bay, Philip, Felipe Toro, Powder Blue, King Charlemagne, Sharlies Wimpy, Vorvados, Valley Mills. Aah, yep, jumpers for goalposts.

I've been thinking about buying a horse recently but have sort of gone off the idea. Just don't have the same connection to horses that I used to, apart from the odd one like Kauto Star. Plus it's farking expensive.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Karabiner on January 16, 2011, 02:33:26 PM
Ahhh the old Extel commentaries, they were something else weren't they?

"There's one fallen, can't quite make it out........." followed by a pregnant pause with all punters holding their collective breath.

And the warm glow of "drawing away and winning easily" when yours was the aforementioned.

Being called first in a photo made you about a 1/6 shot as I recall.

Happy days.



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 16, 2011, 02:41:16 PM
Ahhh the old Extel commentaries, they were something else weren't they?

"There's one fallen, can't quite make it out........." followed by a pregnant pause with all punters holding their collective breath.

And the warm glow of "drawing away and winning easily" when yours was the aforementioned.

Being called first in a photo made you about a 1/6 shot as I recall.

Happy days.



Extel was the nuts.

If your horse hadn't been mentioned it was cantering in behind and the commentator hadn't noticed it (in your minds eye anyway).


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 03:29:11 PM

I adore seeing the "other side" of a bookmaker, it fulfils my urge to bet, without even betting.

I was thinking it must be pretty interesting to see behind the scenes what's going on

Interesting? I LOVE it. Every day, 10am on the dot, yesterday's numbers come through. Leave me alone boys, I need to study every line.

The World Cup was awesome. Before every match we got a Memo which gave all the liabilities in each match, we had big TV plasmas in every single office. It coincided with the SB&G year end - 30th June - so our whole year could have swung several £mill either way based upon it. (God bless England, all targets met).

Ditto the "big" punting days - Derby Day, Grand National Day, Boxing Day. We went into mourning on Boxing day this year, footie, racing all cancelled. Such a shame. So all the money migrated across the platform to Sky Vegas, & Sky Poker. Sky Poker's Xmas started on the day the snow started in late November. It's still Xmas there, too. Bingo is off the graph, an amazing uptick.  The business model fascinates, the way it all works together so well.

For "Bet" (Sky Bet), each evening we get a "Business Mix", broken into every sport covered, maybe 25 or 30 different books. It comes in before the football kicks off, & again, after the football ends, so we know where the liabilities are pretty early. Typically, on a Sunday, the book liability is not cleared until after the Spanish footie in the evening. Today, the accas will include the Liverpool derby, Man-Utd Spurs, & the big Spanish game.

A lot of money is punted on Sunday's on NFL, too, pardon the punt. I mean, pun.

The Ashes were momentous, too.

On the day after we won The Ashes, I noticed that the cricket book was massive, & then the penny dropped. Liabilities are only accounted for after the Event ends, so long-standing Ashes Series bets all got settled in a single day. Ouch.

Darts is a huge betting medium, too - so simple, A LOT of punters buy money by doing doubles on 1/8 & 1/10 shots. I'm talking 5 figure bets. You'll know how some of those went recently......;)

My betting urges are being fulfilled in the oddest of ways now.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 03:33:53 PM
Ahhh the old Extel commentaries, they were something else weren't they?"There's one fallen, can't quite make it out........." followed by a pregnant pause with all punters holding their collective breath.

And the warm glow of "drawing away and winning easily" when yours was the aforementioned.

Being called first in a photo made you about a 1/6 shot as I recall.

Happy days.



I think Compo was big pals with one of the Extel commentators, Dave Smith.

The last furlong was like, 2 miles, as he liked to hype it up. Great stuff!

TV's arrived in the betting shops one day, & Extel was dead. The horse was almost in the winning enclosure, & Dave Smith was still shouting & hollering, "it's Grundy, it's Bustino, it's Grundy, they've flashed across the line together, it's close, photo-finish".

Minutes later would come the Extel result, "1st, 2nd , 3rd, bla de bla, distances, 4 lengths, 5 lengths, 2 lengths"......


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on January 16, 2011, 03:41:38 PM

I adore seeing the "other side" of a bookmaker, it fulfils my urge to bet, without even betting.

I was thinking it must be pretty interesting to see behind the scenes what's going on

Interesting? I LOVE it. Every day, 10am on the dot, yesterday's numbers come through. Leave me alone boys, I need to study every line.

The World Cup was awesome. Before every match we got a Memo which gave all the liabilities in each match, we had big TV plasmas in every single office. It coincided with the SB&G year end - 30th June - so our whole year could have swung several £mill either way based upon it. (God bless England, all targets met).

Ditto the "big" punting days - Derby Day, Grand National Day, Boxing Day. We went into mourning on Boxing day this year, footie, racing all cancelled. Such a shame. So all the money migrated across the platform to Sky Vegas, & Sky Poker. Sky Poker's Xmas started on the day the snow started in late November. It's still Xmas there, too. Bingo is off the graph, an amazing uptick.  The business model fascinates, the way it all works together so well.

For "Bet" (Sky Bet), each evening we get a "Business Mix", broken into every sport covered, maybe 25 or 30 different books. It comes in before the football kicks off, & again, after the football ends, so we know where the liabilities are pretty early. Typically, on a Sunday, the book liability is not cleared until after the Spanish footie in the evening. Today, the accas will include the Liverpool derby, Man-Utd Spurs, & the big Spanish game.

A lot of money is punted on Sunday's on NFL, too, pardon the punt. I mean, pun.

The Ashes were momentous, too.

On the day after we won The Ashes, I noticed that the cricket book was massive, & then the penny dropped. Liabilities are only accounted for after the Event ends, so long-standing Ashes Series bets all got settled in a single day. Ouch.

Darts is a huge betting medium, too - so simple, A LOT of punters buy money by doing doubles on 1/8 & 1/10 shots. I'm talking 5 figure bets. You'll know how some of those went recently......;)

My betting urges are being fulfilled in the oddest of ways now.

Why such schadenfreude wrt losing punters ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 16, 2011, 03:44:03 PM
Interesting that back then Dave Smith should want to call photos all the time, as he hardly ever does these days. Known as Smudge The Judge now. Used to be Dave 'Smudger' Smith. Now it's Smudge The Judge. Walking photo-finish-calling ego imo.

Very unpopular with Betfair forumites, as he often doesn't give them the chance to trade out in close finishes. Yep, technology has improved and the photo flashes up on the judge's screen almost straight away, but he's the only Judge that does it. The rest obv like to double check. Quite right too.

It used to be that, if it was less than a neck, a photo was called. Not any more. Fair enough for them to call it if it's a head or a long short-head but if it's a genuine short-head or nose he should call a photo. Word is he doesn't approve of exchange betting on photo finishes. Don't know whether that's true but poor show if that's the reason.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 04:07:25 PM

I adore seeing the "other side" of a bookmaker, it fulfils my urge to bet, without even betting.

I was thinking it must be pretty interesting to see behind the scenes what's going on

Interesting? I LOVE it. Every day, 10am on the dot, yesterday's numbers come through. Leave me alone boys, I need to study every line.

The World Cup was awesome. Before every match we got a Memo which gave all the liabilities in each match, we had big TV plasmas in every single office. It coincided with the SB&G year end - 30th June - so our whole year could have swung several £mill either way based upon it. (God bless England, all targets met).

Ditto the "big" punting days - Derby Day, Grand National Day, Boxing Day. We went into mourning on Boxing day this year, footie, racing all cancelled. Such a shame. So all the money migrated across the platform to Sky Vegas, & Sky Poker. Sky Poker's Xmas started on the day the snow started in late November. It's still Xmas there, too. Bingo is off the graph, an amazing uptick.  The business model fascinates, the way it all works together so well.

For "Bet" (Sky Bet), each evening we get a "Business Mix", broken into every sport covered, maybe 25 or 30 different books. It comes in before the football kicks off, & again, after the football ends, so we know where the liabilities are pretty early. Typically, on a Sunday, the book liability is not cleared until after the Spanish footie in the evening. Today, the accas will include the Liverpool derby, Man-Utd Spurs, & the big Spanish game.

A lot of money is punted on Sunday's on NFL, too, pardon the punt. I mean, pun.

The Ashes were momentous, too.

On the day after we won The Ashes, I noticed that the cricket book was massive, & then the penny dropped. Liabilities are only accounted for after the Event ends, so long-standing Ashes Series bets all got settled in a single day. Ouch.

Darts is a huge betting medium, too - so simple, A LOT of punters buy money by doing doubles on 1/8 & 1/10 shots. I'm talking 5 figure bets. You'll know how some of those went recently......;)

My betting urges are being fulfilled in the oddest of ways now.

Why such schadenfreude wrt losing punters ?

I guess it's the obverse of a punters schadenfreude towards bookies.

I'm all of a sudden, after 45 years punting, on the other side of the equation, & Bet's results impact upon my job, &, in fact, my income. Wearing a different pair of shoes after all that time is quite an odd feeling, but I enjoy it enormously.

But it's more than that. It's admiration, awe even, for how the gaming business has been changed by the internet. A losing day on Bet does not bother them, because the money moves around the site. A bad Bet week means a good Vegas week. I think that's rather neat. And, be it modern day Online Gaming, or a smoky betting shop 30 years back, the result is always the same, the bookie is always going to get the lot eventually. It's in the maths. Or math.

I do not feel sorry for any loser in gambling though, be it the punter of the bookie, I'm not sure that's rational. I don't joyfully glee in them losing, either.  And if anyone has lost a small fortune gambling, it's me. I've lost several, in fact. Now, all of a sudden, I'm a winner. Or at least, I feel like I am. But it's a great perspective to be the other side of the bookies counter for once, it really is.

If I were allowed, I'd post up the daily numbers. That'd be some thread, there'd be some chit-chat off that!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 04:08:49 PM
Interesting that back then Dave Smith should want to call photos all the time, as he hardly ever does these days. Known as Smudge The Judge now. Used to be Dave 'Smudger' Smith. Now it's Smudge The Judge. Walking photo-finish-calling ego imo.

Very unpopular with Betfair forumites, as he often doesn't give them the chance to trade out in close finishes. Yep, technology has improved and the photo flashes up on the judge's screen almost straight away, but he's the only Judge that does it. The rest obv like to double check. Quite right too.

It used to be that, if it was less than a neck, a photo was called. Not any more. Fair enough for them to call it if it's a head or a long short-head but if it's a genuine short-head or nose he should call a photo. Word is he doesn't approve of exchange betting on photo finishes. Don't know whether that's true but poor show if that's the reason.

He's still around? Good God, how old is he?

I was stood in bookies shops listening to him in the 70's, or am I dreaming?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 16, 2011, 04:28:23 PM
Yup, Smith still knocking about, although he's literally just been taken off the commentators' rota (1 January). Graham Goode also dropped, hence his retirement. Still don't know why they don't use Martin Harris a lot more. He's top class.

If I had to guess I'd put Smudge The Judge in his late 50s now, so he'd have been a youngster when doing Extel.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2011, 04:30:49 PM

I've not seen today's football Resuts yet, but this just in, excuse the absence of actual numbers, as I'd get shot.

We have over xxk (big number!) running onto the draw in the Man utd vs Spurs game and could also do with Real Madrid not winning this evening.

So, for me, I know we've had a great day so far, & it might just get better, but if those 2 results go wrong, we could end up in the red. So I get my betting "fix" for free.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 16, 2011, 06:42:55 PM

I've not seen today's football Resuts yet, but this just in, excuse the absence of actual numbers, as I'd get shot.

We have over xxk (big number!) running onto the draw in the Man utd vs Spurs game and could also do with Real Madrid not winning this evening.

So, for me, I know we've had a great day so far, & it might just get better, but if those 2 results go wrong, we could end up in the red. So I get my betting "fix" for free.


i'm surprised you're allowed to be that detailed. Out of interest tikay, (i'm surprised you get the daily figures), is that standard throughout the company?

i wish i could talk about the numbers.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 16, 2011, 09:02:49 PM
What you do and for whom acey? If you don't mind me asking? And how much more do you like my diary than Celtic's?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2011, 01:13:55 AM

Official Press Release from Sky Bet this evening.
 

Bookies bashed by Sunday stalemates



Football punters across the country are celebrating after all four of Sunday’s Premier League matches all ended in draws.

It was definitely not a Super Sunday for the bookies, as Sky Bet were one of the companies left reeling from the unlikely 108/1 four-fold result. 

There were 1-1 stalemates in the midlands derby between Birmingham and Aston Villa as well as the Sunderland v Newcastle Tyne-Wear derby. Liverpool came from behind to rescue a 2-2 draw in the 215th Merseyside derby, before 10-man Manchester United held out for a goalless draw at White Hart Lane against Tottenham.

Sky Bet’s PR Director Dale Tempest said: “Normally bookmakers cheer whenever they get a Premier league draw but not today.

“All four Sunday games looked tight affairs but it was incredible how many customers put the draws together in multiple bets.”

He added: “When we saw over £100,000 running onto the draw in the Tottenham v Manchester United game we knew we were in trouble.”


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2011, 01:23:58 AM

I've not seen today's football Resuts yet, but this just in, excuse the absence of actual numbers, as I'd get shot.

We have over xxk (big number!) running onto the draw in the Man utd vs Spurs game and could also do with Real Madrid not winning this evening.

So, for me, I know we've had a great day so far, & it might just get better, but if those 2 results go wrong, we could end up in the red. So I get my betting "fix" for free.


i'm surprised you're allowed to be that detailed. Out of interest tikay, (i'm surprised you get the daily figures), is that standard throughout the company?

i wish i could talk about the numbers.

I'm not sure I am, to be honest, & maybe I should not have been quite so open. I'll  be more discrete henceforth! However, the Statement above is an "Official Release" which says much the same as I did, earlier. Far point you make, though.

I don't know who, in the Company, does & does not get the numbers. I just know I get the Daily Report, the Weekly Report, & the Weekly "Directors" Report.

They are a refreshingly open company with their Staff, & it encourages "ownership".

We see every single number, from every angle, compared with last week, last year, against Forecast, the lot, & there's a weekly "Thermometer Scale" for the 4 main companies, plus a Group one, so we all know the numbers we have to try & hit.

But these are "margin" (stakes less payouts, or Slots "hold", total poker rake & fees etc) & thus are only Gross Profit before Overheads. We never see, or know, the net profit. No need to, either. Each of the SB&G companies have central functions, Executive staff, compliance, back office, casher, IT, etc, so it would be impossible to properly assess operating costs per unit.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 17, 2011, 02:04:38 AM

I've not seen today's football Resuts yet, but this just in, excuse the absence of actual numbers, as I'd get shot.

We have over xxk (big number!) running onto the draw in the Man utd vs Spurs game and could also do with Real Madrid not winning this evening.

So, for me, I know we've had a great day so far, & it might just get better, but if those 2 results go wrong, we could end up in the red. So I get my betting "fix" for free.


i'm surprised you're allowed to be that detailed. Out of interest tikay, (i'm surprised you get the daily figures), is that standard throughout the company?

i wish i could talk about the numbers.

I'm not sure I am, to be honest, & maybe I should not have been quite so open. I'll  be more discrete henceforth! However, the Statement above is an "Official Release" which says much the same as I did, earlier. Far point you make, though.

I don't know who, in the Company, does & does not get the numbers. I just know I get the Daily Report, the Weekly Report, & the Weekly "Directors" Report.

They are a refreshingly open company with their Staff, & it encourages "ownership".

We see every single number, from every angle, compared with last week, last year, against Forecast, the lot, & there's a weekly "Thermometer Scale" for the 4 main companies, plus a Group one, so we all know the numbers we have to try & hit.

But these are "margin" (stakes less payouts, or Slots "hold", total poker rake & fees etc) & thus are only Gross Profit before Overheads. We never see, or know, the net profit. No need to, either. Each of the SB&G companies have central functions, Executive staff, compliance, back office, casher, IT, etc, so it would be impossible to properly assess operating costs per unit.

From my experience the figures claimed by PR men of bookmakers are pure BS.

One claimed that a punters stood to win over a million pounds on a white Christmas.

http://www.williamhillmedia.com/index_template.asp?file=15790

Like they would take £200k in bets on such a market.

They won't lay £200 ew on a 5/1 shot in a channel 4 horse race, yet we are supposed to believe they would lay a White Christmas to lose a million.

I don't doubt Skybet had "£100k running on the draw" in the Tottenham/Man U game.

I don't believe Skybet lost 300k on the matches though. The PR men conveniently forget to deduct losing bets from the figure.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 17, 2011, 02:09:18 AM

I've not seen today's football Resuts yet, but this just in, excuse the absence of actual numbers, as I'd get shot.

We have over xxk (big number!) running onto the draw in the Man utd vs Spurs game and could also do with Real Madrid not winning this evening.

So, for me, I know we've had a great day so far, & it might just get better, but if those 2 results go wrong, we could end up in the red. So I get my betting "fix" for free.


i'm surprised you're allowed to be that detailed. Out of interest tikay, (i'm surprised you get the daily figures), is that standard throughout the company?

i wish i could talk about the numbers.

I'm not sure I am, to be honest, & maybe I should not have been quite so open. I'll  be more discrete henceforth! However, the Statement above is an "Official Release" which says much the same as I did, earlier. Far point you make, though.

I don't know who, in the Company, does & does not get the numbers. I just know I get the Daily Report, the Weekly Report, & the Weekly "Directors" Report.

They are a refreshingly open company with their Staff, & it encourages "ownership".

We see every single number, from every angle, compared with last week, last year, against Forecast, the lot, & there's a weekly "Thermometer Scale" for the 4 main companies, plus a Group one, so we all know the numbers we have to try & hit.

But these are "margin" (stakes less payouts, or Slots "hold", total poker rake & fees etc) & thus are only Gross Profit before Overheads. We never see, or know, the net profit. No need to, either. Each of the SB&G companies have central functions, Executive staff, compliance, back office, casher, IT, etc, so it would be impossible to properly assess operating costs per unit.

thats a great set up.

What you do and for whom acey? If you don't mind me asking? And how much more do you like my diary than Celtic's?

i work for the number 1 and your diary is easily best on blonde because its right up my street.

camel is right, industry spokesman are billy and the magic sign and they have years of making it sound good to the press.

anyone who bets and has a bit of brain can figure out if the bookies are losing or winning in any given week barring big punters.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: GreekStein on January 17, 2011, 12:30:13 PM
Chompster, what rules do you keep with regard to bankroll management?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 17, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
None. Don't play cash so guess not as important for me?

Keep track of monthly profits for pokerz and betting. Showed a pokering loss in 2009, when I ran horribly for months on end in the second half of the year, but otherwise + every year. Good enough for me, only really play for fun innit.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 17, 2011, 12:44:34 PM
Any season long footy bets looking horrifically bad/very good?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: GreekStein on January 17, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
None. Don't play cash so guess not as important for me?

Keep track of monthly profits for pokerz and betting. Showed a pokering loss in 2009, when I ran horribly for months on end in the second half of the year, but otherwise + every year. Good enough for me, only really play for fun innit.

Sorry Chompalot, I wasn't talking about poker, was refering to sports betting.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 17, 2011, 01:47:34 PM
Same answer really Greeky, keep dimez in Betfair until it gets to a certain amount and then withdraw. Bankroll doesn't really come into play on there. Not for me at least.

Had a quick look for that thread on ante-post footie bets the other day but couldn't find it. Going well here, backed Tubbsy to be top scorer in the Conference and Bournemouth on the handicap for league one. Bets on Posh for league one, Hooper for top SPL scorer and DJCampbell top Championship scorer down the pan.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 17, 2011, 05:04:41 PM
Same answer really Greeky, keep dimez in Betfair until it gets to a certain amount and then withdraw. Bankroll doesn't really come into play on there. Not for me at least.

Had a quick look for that thread on ante-post footie bets the other day but couldn't find it. Going well here, backed Tubbsy to be top scorer in the Conference and Bournemouth on the handicap for league one. Bets on Posh for league one, Hooper for top SPL scorer and DJCampbell top Championship scorer down the pan.

Bet is back on imo. Miller due to leave Rangers in the transfer window. If he can stop falling over and having 4 weeks out with a twisted sock or broken nail then he will overtake him. I hope you win.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: bazzabhoy on January 17, 2011, 06:37:16 PM
just to add some input of the 4 games yesterday........i rarely/never bet draws....but for some reason did 4 trebles and a roll up for a laugh.......fiver bet netted me £199    while in collecting a pal of mine came in to pick up £500  same 4 draws plus killie game from saturday    so can easily see how it would all add up with all being tight games and 3 derbies


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: mondatoo on January 17, 2011, 08:07:53 PM
Do you think 10/1 for Kauto to win the Gold Cup is valuuuuuuooooooooooo or do you think Kauto's time has passed.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2011, 11:21:25 PM
just to add some input of the 4 games yesterday........i rarely/never bet draws....but for some reason did 4 trebles and a roll up for a laugh.......fiver bet netted me £199    while in collecting a pal of mine came in to pick up £500  same 4 draws plus killie game from saturday    so can easily see how it would all add up with all being tight games and 3 derbies

Nice one!

Apparently, after Andy Gray suggested before the games began that all 4 might end up as draws, the money piled on, most of the volume in £5 & £10 bets.

Draws are usually good for the bookie, yesterday proved to be very much the exception.

You may recall the start of last year's World Cup was jam-packed with draws, & the volume of business was awesome. A lot of the high volume was because SB had run a promotion on World Cup betting, too, "money back on losing bets if England win" (outright markets only, I assume) & that attracted  lot of new Clients.

The SB&G offices were a very jolly place  last June!

When the Group beats it's weekly targets, they open the "Beer Fridge" on the Friday afternoon.  It was open a lot that month.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Karabiner on January 17, 2011, 11:45:27 PM
just to add some input of the 4 games yesterday........i rarely/never bet draws....but for some reason did 4 trebles and a roll up for a laugh.......fiver bet netted me £199    while in collecting a pal of mine came in to pick up £500  same 4 draws plus killie game from saturday    so can easily see how it would all add up with all being tight games and 3 derbies

Nice one!

Apparently, after Andy Gray suggested before the games began that all 4 might end up as draws, the money piled on, most of the volume in £5 & £10 bets.

Draws are usually good for the bookie, yesterday proved to be very much the exception.

You may recall the start of last year's World Cup was jam-packed with draws, & the volume of business was awesome. A lot of the high volume was because SB had run a promotion on World Cup betting, too, "money back on losing bets if England win" (outright markets only, I assume) & that attracted  lot of new Clients.

The SB&G offices were a very jolly place  last June!

When the Group beats it's weekly targets, they open the "Beer Fridge" on the Friday afternoon.  It was open a lot that month.

Half-way through the second half of the spuds v manure game which was the  last of yesterday's four Premiership matches Andy Gray mentioned in commentary that if anyone had bet on the four matches in an accumulator to end up as draws they would have been getting c108/1 to their stake.

He did say that surely up and down the country somebody must have been on, however he did not say that he had suggested placing the accumulator before the games which he almost certainly would have done had that been the case, although I might well be mistaken.

I am now convinced that the four games ending up as draws was a bad result for some layers.

fmp.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on January 18, 2011, 01:47:17 AM
just to add some input of the 4 games yesterday........i rarely/never bet draws....but for some reason did 4 trebles and a roll up for a laugh.......fiver bet netted me £199    while in collecting a pal of mine came in to pick up £500  same 4 draws plus killie game from saturday    so can easily see how it would all add up with all being tight games and 3 derbies

Nice one!

Apparently, after Andy Gray suggested before the games began that all 4 might end up as draws, the money piled on, most of the volume in £5 & £10 bets.

Draws are usually good for the bookie, yesterday proved to be very much the exception.

You may recall the start of last year's World Cup was jam-packed with draws, & the volume of business was awesome. A lot of the high volume was because SB had run a promotion on World Cup betting, too, "money back on losing bets if England win" (outright markets only, I assume) & that attracted  lot of new Clients.

The SB&G offices were a very jolly place  last June!

When the Group beats it's weekly targets, they open the "Beer Fridge" on the Friday afternoon.  It was open a lot that month.

In my experience as a bookmaker whilst draws are a good result a lot of them rarely are.  In the same way that, for example, when laying American Football underdogs are normally good for bookies but when they all win there is normally a couple of punters that have them in accas etc.  On bookies PR men I can confirm that most of it is just hyperbole.  By way of example in the run up to the 2002 Superbowl I had one a load of interviews based aroun how muchg we were likely to take on the event and had decided that a good press release to put out would be that we would happily take a million dollar bet on the pointspread of the game and, it was dne with the intention that we would take such a bet if asked.  As soon as the divisional games were finished I was a part of the industry wide race to be the first to get a line up and opened Oakland -5 and a couple of other books went up around the same mark and the phone rang and it was a well known poker player (clue - he is very good at 2-7 and other lowball games) who was a regular (winning) punter and he said he had seen our pubilicity and how much could he have on the game at our opening number at which point I bottled it totally and offerred him $22k.  He took the Bucs getting the points and if memory serves me they won by about 30 points straight up!!!!

Slight side note but to a man almost all the very best sports bettors I have known have all been poker players too and good ones at that.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 18, 2011, 01:09:02 PM
Do you think 10/1 for Kauto to win the Gold Cup is valuuuuuuooooooooooo or do you think Kauto's time has passed.

It's an amazing price on the face of it Monda but I wouldn't touch it. Firstly, Imperial Commander is quality, and secondly this season's Hennessy was one of the strongest for a long time. That race is going to dominate a lot of Festival races this spring.
At the moment Nicholls is planning on keeping Kauto going next season after he goes direct to Cheltenham in March. And I'm worried for the horse.
Fair point Nicholls, Kauto is only 11, not 13, but it's more about how many miles they have on the clock, especially at the top level. Most of Kauto's 36 races have come at the top and he's had some proper scraps lately. Then, from out of the blue, he bleeds after the King George.
Horses that suddenly bleed once are very likely to do it again in my experience, especially in a race like the Gold Cup where they're flat out from so early. If he bursts a blood vessel during the race, smacks a fence and hurts himself, Clive Smith will be sick. If I owned him I would retire him right now. Today.
None of us wants to see Kauto still running when on the downgrade. Champions should go out at the top. If I do anything at Cheltenham, it'll be place laying him. Sad as that is.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 18, 2011, 01:18:11 PM
Interesting that redarmi, the whole sports bettor-poker crossover. Would think there are more other sports bettors playing poker at a decent level than horsey punters. I know a few guys from racing that play poker, but they only really dabble. Racing and poker isn't a natural mix, although you'd think it probably should be.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: mondatoo on January 18, 2011, 01:28:25 PM
Do you think 10/1 for Kauto to win the Gold Cup is valuuuuuuooooooooooo or do you think Kauto's time has passed.

It's an amazing price on the face of it Monda but I wouldn't touch it. Firstly, Imperial Commander is quality, and secondly this season's Hennessy was one of the strongest for a long time. That race is going to dominate a lot of Festival races this spring.
At the moment Nicholls is planning on keeping Kauto going next season after he goes direct to Cheltenham in March. And I'm worried for the horse.
Fair point Nicholls, Kauto is only 11, not 13, but it's more about how many miles they have on the clock, especially at the top level. Most of Kauto's 36 races have come at the top and he's had some proper scraps lately. Then, from out of the blue, he bleeds after the King George.
Horses that suddenly bleed once are very likely to do it again in my experience, especially in a race like the Gold Cup where they're flat out from so early. If he bursts a blood vessel during the race, smacks a fence and hurts himself, Clive Smith will be sick. If I owned him I would retire him right now. Today.
None of us wants to see Kauto still running when on the downgrade. Champions should go out at the top. If I do anything at Cheltenham, it'll be place laying him. Sad as that is.

My only positive thought was I think Ruby could make a big difference but possibly I'm overstating that as I don't know much about horse racing tbh.Thanks for the detailed response and I definitely agree about retirement,obv Sea of the Stars was an incred horse but surely Kauto would go into stud and be worth a lot or am I missing something ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Pelham Boy on January 18, 2011, 01:30:15 PM
Do you think 10/1 for Kauto to win the Gold Cup is valuuuuuuooooooooooo or do you think Kauto's time has passed.

It's an amazing price on the face of it Monda but I wouldn't touch it. Firstly, Imperial Commander is quality, and secondly this season's Hennessy was one of the strongest for a long time. That race is going to dominate a lot of Festival races this spring.
At the moment Nicholls is planning on keeping Kauto going next season after he goes direct to Cheltenham in March. And I'm worried for the horse.
Fair point Nicholls, Kauto is only 11, not 13, but it's more about how many miles they have on the clock, especially at the top level. Most of Kauto's 36 races have come at the top and he's had some proper scraps lately. Then, from out of the blue, he bleeds after the King George.
Horses that suddenly bleed once are very likely to do it again in my experience, especially in a race like the Gold Cup where they're flat out from so early. If he bursts a blood vessel during the race, smacks a fence and hurts himself, Clive Smith will be sick. If I owned him I would retire him right now. Today.
None of us wants to see Kauto still running when on the downgrade. Champions should go out at the top. If I do anything at Cheltenham, it'll be place laying him. Sad as that is.

Really? Why do you think that? Pandorama is the only horse to come out of the race and win.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 18, 2011, 01:38:44 PM
Do you think 10/1 for Kauto to win the Gold Cup is valuuuuuuooooooooooo or do you think Kauto's time has passed.

It's an amazing price on the face of it Monda but I wouldn't touch it. Firstly, Imperial Commander is quality, and secondly this season's Hennessy was one of the strongest for a long time. That race is going to dominate a lot of Festival races this spring.
At the moment Nicholls is planning on keeping Kauto going next season after he goes direct to Cheltenham in March. And I'm worried for the horse.
Fair point Nicholls, Kauto is only 11, not 13, but it's more about how many miles they have on the clock, especially at the top level. Most of Kauto's 36 races have come at the top and he's had some proper scraps lately. Then, from out of the blue, he bleeds after the King George.
Horses that suddenly bleed once are very likely to do it again in my experience, especially in a race like the Gold Cup where they're flat out from so early. If he bursts a blood vessel during the race, smacks a fence and hurts himself, Clive Smith will be sick. If I owned him I would retire him right now. Today.
None of us wants to see Kauto still running when on the downgrade. Champions should go out at the top. If I do anything at Cheltenham, it'll be place laying him. Sad as that is.

My only positive thought was I think Ruby could make a big difference but possibly I'm overstating that as I don't know much about horse racing tbh.Thanks for the detailed response and I definitely agree about retirement,obv Sea of the Stars was an incred horse but surely Kauto would go into stud and be worth a lot or am I missing something ?

LOLZ, yep, you are missing something, and so is Kauto! You don't see any entires jumping fences, as there's a good chance the fences would save the cost of a gelding operation.
Old chasers usually just get retired to their owner's farm/field or what not. And then wheeled out once or twice a year for a procession before the King George and Gold Cup.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: mondatoo on January 18, 2011, 01:40:48 PM
Oh... I see lol  ;hide;

How big a difference would you say a change of jockey makes ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 18, 2011, 01:42:25 PM
None of the principals from the Hennessy has run since Pellers. I was referring to the first three really and, in particular, Diamond Harry. He is the future of staying chases imo.

Oh... I see lol  ;hide;

How big a difference would you say a change of jockey makes ?

Not a lot when it's McCoy taking over from Walsh. Don't buy this whole argument that certain styles are better suited to certain horses over jumps. The best jockeys are the best jockeys.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Pelham Boy on January 18, 2011, 01:44:21 PM
Isn't Burton Port out for the season?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 18, 2011, 01:48:39 PM
Isn't Burton Port out for the season?

Believe so. Only just turned seven though, so plenty of time.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on January 18, 2011, 01:55:05 PM
Do you think 10/1 for Kauto to win the Gold Cup is valuuuuuuooooooooooo or do you think Kauto's time has passed.

It's an amazing price on the face of it Monda but I wouldn't touch it. Firstly, Imperial Commander is quality, and secondly this season's Hennessy was one of the strongest for a long time. That race is going to dominate a lot of Festival races this spring.
At the moment Nicholls is planning on keeping Kauto going next season after he goes direct to Cheltenham in March. And I'm worried for the horse.
Fair point Nicholls, Kauto is only 11, not 13, but it's more about how many miles they have on the clock, especially at the top level. Most of Kauto's 36 races have come at the top and he's had some proper scraps lately. Then, from out of the blue, he bleeds after the King George.
Horses that suddenly bleed once are very likely to do it again in my experience, especially in a race like the Gold Cup where they're flat out from so early. If he bursts a blood vessel during the race, smacks a fence and hurts himself, Clive Smith will be sick. If I owned him I would retire him right now. Today.
None of us wants to see Kauto still running when on the downgrade. Champions should go out at the top. If I do anything at Cheltenham, it'll be place laying him. Sad as that is.

My only positive thought was I think Ruby could make a big difference but possibly I'm overstating that as I don't know much about horse racing tbh.Thanks for the detailed response and I definitely agree about retirement,obv Sea of the Stars was an incred horse but surely Kauto would go into stud and be worth a lot or am I missing something ?

LOLZ, yep, you are missing something, and so is Kauto! You don't see any entires jumping fences, as there's a good chance the fences would save the cost of a gelding operation.
Old chasers usually just get retired to their owner's farm/field or what not. And then wheeled out once or twice a year for a procession before the King George and Gold Cup.

While Kauto obviously owes Smith and Nicholls nothing, they still owe the horse plenty.

A steeplechaser just turned 11 who is perfectly fit should still be racing, the horse will expect to race and obviously loves racing.

Whether going for the Gold Cup is the right option is the only question they should be considering.

I'd avoid Cheltenham altogther and keep him fresh for the 2 1/2miler at Aintree. He's always been better on a flat track.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 18, 2011, 11:05:08 PM
just to add some input of the 4 games yesterday........i rarely/never bet draws....but for some reason did 4 trebles and a roll up for a laugh.......fiver bet netted me £199    while in collecting a pal of mine came in to pick up £500  same 4 draws plus killie game from saturday    so can easily see how it would all add up with all being tight games and 3 derbies

Nice one!

Apparently, after Andy Gray suggested before the games began that all 4 might end up as draws, the money piled on, most of the volume in £5 & £10 bets.

Draws are usually good for the bookie, yesterday proved to be very much the exception.

You may recall the start of last year's World Cup was jam-packed with draws, & the volume of business was awesome. A lot of the high volume was because SB had run a promotion on World Cup betting, too, "money back on losing bets if England win" (outright markets only, I assume) & that attracted  lot of new Clients.

The SB&G offices were a very jolly place  last June!

When the Group beats it's weekly targets, they open the "Beer Fridge" on the Friday afternoon.  It was open a lot that month.

Half-way through the second half of the spuds v manure game which was the  last of yesterday's four Premiership matches Andy Gray mentioned in commentary that if anyone had bet on the four matches in an accumulator to end up as draws they would have been getting c108/1 to their stake.

He did say that surely up and down the country somebody must have been on, however he did not say that he had suggested placing the accumulator before the games which he almost certainly would have done had that been the case, although I might well be mistaken.

I am now convinced that the four games ending up as draws was a bad result for some layers.

fmp.

Yes, I'm sure the Andy Gray story was puff, & part of typical bookie hype. "Bookies stand to lose £1 million on White Christmas" or "£250 milion on Grand National" etc is something few of us take at face value. It gets on the font page of The Sun, though, & gets picked up by SEO, & that's the whole idea.

But the 4 draws, well, as any punter would know, that would normally be a bookies bonanza. Maybe Sky Bet got the prices all wrong, I don't know, but they lost a good few bob. I'm quite sure the other bookies all did well, though.

That was part of the reason for Posting what I thought was an amazing story. 4 draws on the bounce should be Christmas Day for the bookies. The fact it was not for Sky Bet was, I thought, worth a Post.

But it was only part of the reason I Posted the tale......


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Graham C on January 18, 2011, 11:07:26 PM
What types of bets don't bookies like, apart from winning ones of course?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 18, 2011, 11:18:52 PM
What happened to Shergar iyo?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 18, 2011, 11:19:22 PM

I Posted it for a bunch of reasons.

I love this thread, because it's like-minded peeps, marshalled by a full-time punter who earns his corn quietly, & has done for a while. I do a bit of financial toing & froing with Chomps, & I like him, & his writing style, a lot.

I have been immersed in gambling culture all my life, nearly. I have books galore on racehorse breeding, bookie tales, da de da. I've always wanted to mix with gambling people, in dodgy places, playing cards, staying up all night, having a nice wedge in my back pocket. It's the world I dreamed of being part of.

I've worked for a bookie as a youngster, then spent 40 years the other side of the counter, now I'm back working for a bookie. I think that brings a great, & different, perspective to the whole gambling scene, & I thought a few tales from the inside might be viewed with interest. It had never occurred to me at the time, of the hostility towards Bookies, something which, quite frankly, I don't understand, but I know to be a fact. In short, I had forgotten I had become "the enemy", & had not expected to be seen as such!

I also felt that a few stories of pain & gain, losses & winnings, the "inside line" from a bookies perspective, would not only be interesting to many, but might just help the Sky sponsorship of blonde. So yes, a bit of puff in there, too.

I deffo, 100%, do not want to knock this Diary off it's splendid track, so I think I'd best hold back with the inside guff.

I really ought to sit down & write a book. My eyes pop out some days, now I can see what it's like to run a modern, Online Gaming, organisation. Never have I been so fascinated, or in awe, of the things I see "behind the scenes". Every day.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 18, 2011, 11:20:38 PM
What types of bets don't bookies like, apart from winning ones of course?

Always been the same I guess. When I was a trainee betting shop manager for Coral, the manager told me to keep an eye on win singles when taking bets and just accept everything else. That says it all.

They all fall for it. Even Luton ledge Dick Lynch. Last night he was telling me he had a double on a 7-2 winner. With Kauto Star!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 18, 2011, 11:24:31 PM
What types of bets don't bookies like, apart from winning ones of course?

They like all bets. Liquidity is golden.

If there were a type if bet they would prefer not to take, it'd be straightforward, old-fashioned, singles. Those often lose money on singles, but it matters not, relative to the amount that is wagered on multiples, accas, & sub-markets.

If betting were prohibited on multiples, accas & sub-markets, most Online Gaming & Sports Betting companies would close the door. The profit comes from punters who want to beat the bookies 3 or 4 times on the bounce. Take that, all day. No punter ever made a living doing multiples. Bookies make a living accepting such bets, though.

It was always so.

PS - I am sheer guessing here, but I'd think that the singles market is barely 10% of the market as a whole. Just as well, too, as there are some cute singles bettors around.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 18, 2011, 11:30:44 PM
What types of bets don't bookies like, apart from winning ones of course?

They like all bets. Liquidity is golden.

If there were a type if bet they would prefer not to take, it'd be straightforward, old-fashioned, singles. Those often lose money on singles, but it matters not, relative to the amount that is wagered on multiples, accas, & sub-markets.

If betting were prohibited on multiples, accas & sub-markets, most Online Gaming & Sports Betting companies would close the door. The profit comes from punters who want to beat the bookies 3 or 4 times on the bounce. Take that, all day. No punter ever made a living doing multiples. Bookies make a living accepting such bets, though.

It was always so.

the biggest winning bet i ever saw was an 33p e/w six fold.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 18, 2011, 11:35:41 PM

The Sony Golf outright market, which was settled yesterday, was a bad one - Ernie Els was very well-backed in an illiquid book.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 18, 2011, 11:36:48 PM
What happened to Shergar iyo?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 18, 2011, 11:37:36 PM
What types of bets don't bookies like, apart from winning ones of course?

They like all bets. Liquidity is golden.

If there were a type if bet they would prefer not to take, it'd be straightforward, old-fashioned, singles. Those often lose money on singles, but it matters not, relative to the amount that is wagered on multiples, accas, & sub-markets.

If betting were prohibited on multiples, accas & sub-markets, most Online Gaming & Sports Betting companies would close the door. The profit comes from punters who want to beat the bookies 3 or 4 times on the bounce. Take that, all day. No punter ever made a living doing multiples. Bookies make a living accepting such bets, though.

It was always so.

the biggest winning bet i ever saw was an 33p e/w six fold.

Yup, but no tears for the bookies - their PR machines get it out quickly, & the column inches & SEO payback is immense.

A chap recently scooped half a mill on Sky Vegas, so they bigged it up everywhere, & turnover shot up the next day!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 18, 2011, 11:43:30 PM

Nobody is quite sure But RUPotting reckons he saw him in Tesco last week.

Saw some old footage of the kidnap stuff not long ago. Who did they go to? Derek Thompson! Don't get me started on Tommo. EVER!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 18, 2011, 11:44:41 PM

Nobody is quite sure But RUPotting reckons he saw him in Tesco last week.

Saw some old footage of the kidnap stuff not long ago. Who did they go to? Derek Thompson! Don't get me started on Tommo. EVER!

What was the footage like? Where did you see it?

What are your thoughts on Derek Thompson?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Karabiner on January 18, 2011, 11:46:09 PM

The Sony Golf outright market, which was settled yesterday, was a bad one - Ernie Els was very well-backed in an illiquid book.

Ernie Els finished -4 in the Sony Open, tied 42nd.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 18, 2011, 11:51:06 PM
What types of bets don't bookies like, apart from winning ones of course?

They like all bets. Liquidity is golden.

If there were a type if bet they would prefer not to take, it'd be straightforward, old-fashioned, singles. Those often lose money on singles, but it matters not, relative to the amount that is wagered on multiples, accas, & sub-markets.

If betting were prohibited on multiples, accas & sub-markets, most Online Gaming & Sports Betting companies would close the door. The profit comes from punters who want to beat the bookies 3 or 4 times on the bounce. Take that, all day. No punter ever made a living doing multiples. Bookies make a living accepting such bets, though.

It was always so.

the biggest winning bet i ever saw was an 33p e/w six fold.

Yup, but no tears for the bookies - their PR machines get it out quickly, & the column inches & SEO payback is immense.

A chap recently scooped half a mill on Sky Vegas, so they bigged it up everywhere, & turnover shot up the next day!

some dude won £3.8m from one of our slots on christmas eve!!!!!  Lucky bugger.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 18, 2011, 11:57:49 PM
What types of bets don't bookies like, apart from winning ones of course?

They like all bets. Liquidity is golden.

If there were a type if bet they would prefer not to take, it'd be straightforward, old-fashioned, singles. Those often lose money on singles, but it matters not, relative to the amount that is wagered on multiples, accas, & sub-markets.

If betting were prohibited on multiples, accas & sub-markets, most Online Gaming & Sports Betting companies would close the door. The profit comes from punters who want to beat the bookies 3 or 4 times on the bounce. Take that, all day. No punter ever made a living doing multiples. Bookies make a living accepting such bets, though.

It was always so.

the biggest winning bet i ever saw was an 33p e/w six fold.

Yup, but no tears for the bookies - their PR machines get it out quickly, & the column inches & SEO payback is immense.

A chap recently scooped half a mill on Sky Vegas, so they bigged it up everywhere, & turnover shot up the next day!

some dude won £3.8m from one of our slots on christmas eve!!!!!  Lucky bugger.

Who is "our", if you don't mind me asking?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 18, 2011, 11:58:36 PM

The Sony Golf outright market, which was settled yesterday, was a bad one - Ernie Els was very well-backed in an illiquid book.

Ernie Els finished -4 in the Sony Open, tied 42nd.

Could it have been some sort of sub-market? They deffo lost a few bob on him!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 01:17:13 AM
Caught some of it over the weekend. Faldo and someone else arguing that Els has another major or three in him. You must be joking. Double figures with me that he ever wins another major.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 19, 2011, 07:18:37 AM

Nobody is quite sure But RUPotting reckons he saw him in Tesco last week.

Saw some old footage of the kidnap stuff not long ago. Who did they go to? Derek Thompson! Don't get me started on Tommo. EVER!

Still think he should ndo children's telly and be replaced by a red headed minx?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on January 19, 2011, 08:00:37 AM
Have you ever tried having a man at the course on the phone, screaming at you to GOGOGO the exact second the horse jumps the last safely and clear?

I have a couple of contacts who do this. They used to make loads in the past and now although he says the delay makes it harder, its still possible?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Karabiner on January 19, 2011, 10:27:18 AM
Caught some of it over the weekend. Faldo and someone else arguing that Els has another major or three in him. You must be joking. Double figures with me that he ever wins another major.

He desperately needs to sort out his putting as looked horribly uncomfortable on the greens.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Karabiner on January 19, 2011, 10:28:20 AM
Have you ever tried having a man at the course on the phone, screaming at you to GOGOGO the exact second the horse jumps the last safely and clear?

I have a couple of contacts who do this. They used to make loads in the past and now although he says the delay makes it harder, its still possible?

I know someone who does that regularly on the all-weather.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on January 19, 2011, 10:31:39 AM
Chompy


IR again

I assume you are a jumps fan first and foremost?

What is your most profitable form of racing? Obviously a 5f 2yo thing at Folkestone in April you can play but presumably the IR opportunities are far less than a 4m Staying hurdle at Cheltenham in March? Then again the variables involved in flat racing must be far fewer, so less chance of strategies being killed by being brought down or loose horses or whatever?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 19, 2011, 10:48:20 AM
Have you ever tried having a man at the course on the phone, screaming at you to GOGOGO the exact second the horse jumps the last safely and clear?

I have a couple of contacts who do this. They used to make loads in the past and now although he says the delay makes it harder, its still possible?

We tried something similar on the ryder cup this year but it went tits up when our on course correspondent got into the swing of things and got shit faced and prefered to sing songs than answer his phone.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on January 19, 2011, 11:28:52 AM
hahahahahaha. You obv made the error in giving the job to someone comedy/up for a laugh rather than a boring bookish type.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ruholding on January 19, 2011, 11:40:29 AM

Nobody is quite sure But RUPotting reckons he saw him in Tesco last week.

Saw some old footage of the kidnap stuff not long ago. Who did they go to? Derek Thompson! Don't get me started on Tommo. EVER!
my first time on sir chompalots blog. Firstly derek thomson legend and secondly i prefer celtics blog.  over



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Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 12:06:18 PM

Nobody is quite sure But RUPotting reckons he saw him in Tesco last week.

Saw some old footage of the kidnap stuff not long ago. Who did they go to? Derek Thompson! Don't get me started on Tommo. EVER!

Still think he should ndo children's telly and be replaced by a red headed minx?

Remember writing that but can't remember where, that Sarah Cawood should be on my TV all the time and insincerity-on-legs should GTFO. Wouldn't still go for Sarah Cawood though. She was in fashion at the time. Only ever see her on the Eurovision semi finals on BBC3 these days.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 12:12:12 PM
Have you ever tried having a man at the course on the phone, screaming at you to GOGOGO the exact second the horse jumps the last safely and clear?

I have a couple of contacts who do this. They used to make loads in the past and now although he says the delay makes it harder, its still possible?

Guess there are still one or two doing it but there are a lot of track players these days. I believe Mick McCool is one of them?
These boys have a time advantage but it must be a real grind. Expenses are higher, what with petrol and getting a spot in the IR room, and it becomes like a job then. Driving to the course and back, zzzzzzz.
Sitting there doing nowt for half an hour in between races before trying to hoover up all the 1.1 and shorter about something you've seen make what looks a race-winning move a second before the SIS boys. Soulless imo. It also requires little or no skill.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 12:23:04 PM
Chompy

IR again

I assume you are a jumps fan first and foremost?

What is your most profitable form of racing? Obviously a 5f 2yo thing at Folkestone in April you can play but presumably the IR opportunities are far less than a 4m Staying hurdle at Cheltenham in March? Then again the variables involved in flat racing must be far fewer, so less chance of strategies being killed by being brought down or loose horses or whatever?

Flat for me by a mile. As a watcher and fan that is, but it's all good IR, in fact prefer jumps. Even French, Dubai, and US with massive time delay is playable.
The hardest time is mid-summer when it's small fields on fast ground and favourites beating second favourites left, right and centre. No good to me.
March, April, May are the golden months. Loads of jumpers still going and lots of Flat races with weird results. Early 2yo races are great. Loads of clueless early types veering all over the track, getting miles behind before flying home, and leaders stopping dead. Loads of 1.01 discombobulations.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 19, 2011, 01:44:54 PM

Nobody is quite sure But RUPotting reckons he saw him in Tesco last week.

Saw some old footage of the kidnap stuff not long ago. Who did they go to? Derek Thompson! Don't get me started on Tommo. EVER!
my first time on sir chompalots blog. Firstly derek thomson legend and secondly i prefer celtics blog.  over



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you seem to have missed this chompy?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gouty on January 19, 2011, 02:36:00 PM
a fine read and thanks for posting.

i have a betting shop (yes there are still a few indys left lol) and draws are usually excellent results in footy but i done me brains on sunday inc laying a £10 yankee on the 4 draws.

i remember i used to love IR before turf tv came in our shop and of course i had the edge over atr viewers with my s.i.s. feed and used to even make good money on photo finishes but it just seemed to get super hard about 2 years ago and i rather play a 180 on stars or something.

i take my hat off to anyone who makes a living trading IR on gee gees...now cricket or snooker is a different story.

good luck with 2011

alex


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 19, 2011, 08:34:17 PM
Betfair went tits up for over an hour earlier tonight and came back just in time for the last at Kempton.

I guess all the on-course and exchange shop boys had given up, so we were all on a level playing field. Just like the old days it was, winner always going best and stayed backable at above SP for ages. Turned a losing day into a small winner, which was nice.

It was a lot easier four or five years ago.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on January 19, 2011, 08:36:46 PM

Nobody is quite sure But RUPotting reckons he saw him in Tesco last week.

Saw some old footage of the kidnap stuff not long ago. Who did they go to? Derek Thompson! Don't get me started on Tommo. EVER!
my first time on sir chompalots blog. Firstly derek thomson legend and secondly i prefer celtics blog.  over



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what about my blog phil?  mine is better than them both, surely?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 19, 2011, 10:21:04 PM
Chompy & Claw's aren't diaries. They aren't even on The Rail ffs.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pizzled on January 19, 2011, 10:32:35 PM
Chompy & Claw's aren't diaries. They aren't even on The Rail ffs.

I love all three of you equally ;D


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 19, 2011, 10:36:44 PM
Chompy & Claw's aren't diaries. They aren't even on The Rail ffs.

I love all three of you equally ;D

Oi you useless turd, get off here. You haven't even posted on my diary yet.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 19, 2011, 10:39:09 PM
chompy's and claw's = class. celtic's = pretty shit.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 20, 2011, 03:39:59 AM
chompy's and claw's = class. celtic's = pretty shit.

Sigh, chompy got people on the diary payroll now.

Will be giving ipod shuffles away next.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 20, 2011, 04:03:52 PM
Good Afternoon Chompy.

I hope you are well.

Can you describe what an average day in the life of a fenland punterer is like? From the moment you wake up til you finish puneterering.

TIA.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 20, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
No


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 20, 2011, 04:16:52 PM
No

Answer of the week.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 20, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
No

More than I was hoping for.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2011, 03:30:56 PM

Less than 3 weeks in, & he's given up.

Expected.

Meanwhile, Celtic is Posting 80 times a day in his Diary, (we know what he has for breakfast, dinner & tea), AND giving prizes.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 21, 2011, 03:53:01 PM
Busy innit...

At the moment I'm cleaning out a wheelie bin that has about a foot of rancid sludge at the bottom. Been stitched right up here imo.

Dustmen take them all and leave them at the bottom of the road. This morning someone scratched off the white sticker things with the numbers on them. And then nicked my nice clean bin! By midday the only one that was left was the one I now have, which I pretty certain was owned by my direct neighbours.

Weird is not the word for them. 'He' got kicked out years ago. Known as Spielberg around these parts. Used to go round looking at £1m houses while living in the rented gaff next to mine. Film director...complete dreamer.

He asked me round there once trying to get me to invest in a film and showed me the one he was working on at the time. It was absolutely fantastically bad. Set in some sort of country house. No idea what it was about as the acting was just rofflicious. I made my excuses and left.

That left just her, who's Finnish, and two daughters, one of whom is the class 'smelly kid' apparently. Sure am surprised.

Never see them and never hear them, so not bothered. But they are utter &*%&^%*&. Don't mind that I've ended up with their bin in truth. Chance to clean the fecker.

In the summer, depending which way the wind is blowing I either end up with the delighful aroma of USA Chicken or the Spielbergs' bin. It'll take about half an hour to get it cleaned. Then I'm carving a big number 6 in the front. Might even put a tracker on it.

What is it coming to when someone scratches off all the bin numbers just so they can get a clean one? Wankers. This is a pleasing fenland area too, not some chav avenue in Tring.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 21, 2011, 03:56:53 PM
Busy innit...

At the moment I'm cleaning out a wheelie bin that has about a foot of rancid sludge at the bottom. Been stitched right up here imo.

Dustmen take them all and leave them at the bottom of the road. This morning someone scratched off the white sticker things with the numbers on them. And then nicked my nice clean bin! By midday the only one that was left was the one I now have, which I pretty certain was owned by my direct neighbours.

Weird is not the word for them. 'He' got kicked out years ago. Known as Spielberg around these parts. Used to go round looking at £1m houses while living in the rented gaff next to mine. Film director...complete dreamer.

He asked me round there once trying to get me to invest in a film and showed me the one he was working on at the time. It was absolutely fantastically bad. Set in some sort of country house. No idea what it was about as the acting was just rofflicious. I made my excuses and left.

That left just her, who's Finnish, and two daughters, one of whom is the class 'smelly kid' apparently. Sure am surprised.

Never see them and never hear them, so not bothered. But they are utter &*%&^%*&. Don't mind that I've ended up with their bin in truth. Chance to clean the fecker.

In the summer, depending which way the wind is blowing I either end up with the delighful aroma of USA Chicken or the Spielbergs' bin. It'll take about half an hour to get it cleaned. Then I'm carving a big number 6 in the front. Might even put a tracker on it.

What is it coming to when someone scratches off all the bin numbers just so they can get a clean one? Wankers. This is a pleasing fenland area too, not some chav avenue.

Not seen the neighbours for ages? Cleaning out some rancid sludge from the wheelie bin?

Sounds like you could be an accessory to murder.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2011, 04:02:08 PM
Better.

Any Prizes yet? Celtic gives x-pads & stuff.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 21, 2011, 04:17:53 PM
Now I'm thinking I shouldn't carve numbers into wheelie bins? Anyone know the stips?

Yep, time for the great Friday prize giveaway.

*** Prize ***

Half a binbag full of fenland sludge, including chow mein tray from 1977, Spielberg's ponytail caked in slime and two webbed fingers (nails missing).

Question:

What will Sir Donksalot be feasting on before taking his other half to watch Black Swan this evening?

A Harvester's
B Fajitas
C Fenland sludge

My decision is final. Yep.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 21, 2011, 04:23:32 PM
Now I'm thinking I shouldn't carve numbers into wheelie bins? Anyone know the stips?

Yep, time for the great Friday prize giveaway.

*** Prize ***

Half a binbag full of fenland sludge, including chow mein tray from 1977, Spielberg's ponytail caked in slime and two webbed fingers (nails missing).

Question:

What will Sir Donksalot be feasting on before taking his other half to watch Black Swan this evening?

A Harvester's
B Fajitas
C Fenland sludge

My decision is final. Yep.

B (Nap)

It's fajita friday ffs.

Harder question next time.

Like, Will Sir Cumf be feasting on his burd at 11pm or posting on blonde in a mini-skirt because she has made her excuses and left early?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Laxie on January 21, 2011, 04:49:16 PM
Yer not a sludge man imo and I refuse to go with the other eejit's answer so I'll say A.  Don't know what it is, but bound to be right.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 21, 2011, 04:49:48 PM
The council doesn't clean your bins when they empty them?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on January 21, 2011, 04:53:28 PM
I've go a bin related query. We forgot to put pur bins out this week. Can't wait for 2 weeks till next collection. How do we get rid? (Everything isn't sealed in nice black bags so I can throw them in the back of the car)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 21, 2011, 04:55:51 PM
I've go a bin related query. We forgot to put pur bins out this week. Can't wait for 2 weeks till next collection. How do we get rid? (Everything isn't sealed in nice black bags so I can throw them in the back of the car)

Is it just food crap or will there be something in there that will iendtify you to your neighbours? You can always just take of of theirs and take the sticker off. Just swap it for a nice shiny, half empty clean one.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 21, 2011, 05:00:22 PM
Haha, chompy talking about bins on the betting section of a poker forum.

At last he has found something he is qualified to talk about.

Oh, you mentioned on an excellent diary elsewhere that you have 3 bins. what is each colour for? And what is your favourite colour?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on January 21, 2011, 05:01:41 PM
Now I'm thinking I shouldn't carve numbers into wheelie bins? Anyone know the stips?

Yep, time for the great Friday prize giveaway.

*** Prize ***

Half a binbag full of fenland sludge, including chow mein tray from 1977, Spielberg's ponytail caked in slime and two webbed fingers (nails missing).

Question:

What will Sir Donksalot be feasting on before taking his other half to watch Black Swan this evening?

A Harvester's
B Fajitas
C Fenland sludge

My decision is final. Yep.

Wheelie bin wars, a personal joy of mine. get that tin of paint out of the garage and daub you house number across it on the most council estatish way you can achieve, with running drips for added points.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: AndrewT on January 21, 2011, 05:06:49 PM
Paint your number on your wagon wheelie bin.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on January 21, 2011, 05:09:39 PM
In my Victorian canalside home in Tring we don't have wheelie bins at all. Not required.

Just a couple of Waitrose or M & S bags is all one has to put out.

This is a great subject btw, because this thread has mostly been moribund with the occasional - 'i placed a bet on Eurovision' , 'Chompy, yr sooooooooooo interesting' post - these were starting to naus me to a high degree.

I only stumbled back here by falling for the obvious mutual cross selling going on with Celtic and his 'I'm a commentator', 'today I ate a kebab' thread.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on January 21, 2011, 05:12:51 PM
I only wish Sir Viva List Dean, with his big guns, would start a diary so we could get some input from a proper small balled player


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 21, 2011, 05:13:39 PM
An incred surge of action this afternoon but only two entries for the 'Fenland Sludge' competition so far. Entries close at midnight on Sunday.

It's difficult to pick a favourite coloured wheelie bin. The green one is kinda clever, coz green stuff goes in it. Prefer that to the blue one I think, but then I have days where I like the blue one best.

If pushed, I'll go for the black one though. Classical. Rolls best of the three across the pebbles in the road. Yep, the black one. Final answer Dale.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on January 21, 2011, 05:36:07 PM
Clumpy

Paint it bright farkin pink - no bugger's gonna swap it then imo
Furthermore paint CH10 MPY underneath (yes underneath) just incase someone nicks it and paints it black
Simples

Btw, how's your lady-boy cold u woos?

Oh, and out of all the threads with "fenland" and "punterer" in the name, this one's my fave


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on January 21, 2011, 06:30:41 PM
some of us don't need to bribe people over to our threads with free prize giveaways and other such nonsense.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Sighmuns on January 22, 2011, 08:19:59 PM
Do you think that any of the skills that you use for your gambling cross over to your poker?

As someone who is now faced with making a living solely from turning steady profits from gambling, I'd be interested to hear any thoughts you have on the argument some might give against gambling on moralistic grounds? As someone who talks to a LOT of no-hope losing punters at work it's starting to enter my mind.

Enjoying the diary mate, and apologies for not giving beating SirD one last try over Christmas


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 22, 2011, 08:24:24 PM
Do you think that any of the skills that you use for your gambling cross over to your poker?

As someone who is now faced with making a living solely from turning steady profits from gambling, I'd be interested to hear any thoughts you have on the argument some might give against gambling on moralistic grounds? As someone who talks to a LOT of no-hope losing punters at work it's starting to enter my mind.

Enjoying the diary mate, and apologies for not giving beating SirD one last try over Christmas

LOL at those two words being in the same sentence where Chompy is concerned.

Nice level Gregory.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on January 22, 2011, 10:42:23 PM
Do you think that any of the skills that you use for your gambling cross over to your poker?

As someone who is now faced with making a living solely from turning steady profits from gambling, I'd be interested to hear any thoughts you have on the argument some might give against gambling on moralistic grounds? As someone who talks to a LOT of no-hope losing punters at work it's starting to enter my mind.

Enjoying the diary mate, and apologies for not giving beating SirD one last try over Christmas

cmon greg i even paid for you to come beat me...how many chances did you want...  ;D


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 23, 2011, 02:15:39 PM
Tipstering is a funny old game.

Nirvana has gone to Towcester this afternoon after deciding he's better at watching racing than poker.

So he asked me for a few tips on facebook last night. I went through one race at a time and typed something like, "LOLZ, Steven Boow has put Kinkeel in at 13/8 for the second!"

That was as far as I went with it. Kinkeel would never go off 13/8. Not even in a walkover.

Obv I've just got a text "LOL Kinkeel" after he won.

At 4/1 though I'd have been all over him if I was there. Backed him at 11.5 IR. Yes yes aftertiming!

Kinkeel IR is ABC stuff. Runs over two miles...lay him pre-race...back him when he comes off the bridle...then sit back and watch him grind past them up the hill. Yes yes aftertiming!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 25, 2011, 04:54:43 PM

No update?

Is Fenland closed today?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 25, 2011, 05:59:04 PM
I is struggling big styley for time at the moment.

When I gave my notice in to the Racing Post, I didn't realise it was two months' worth and also didn't realise they were going to work me to the max until early March. Can't blame them I guess.

So I'm now doing four spotlights a week for the next month and a half. Forgotten how much I like doing Spots. Before the weekend I hadn't done one for around 18 months but right back in the swing now. Comment for each horse and a betting forecast. Doing the betting forecast is the fun bit.

It's not really my time of year though and today I have mostly been studying hurdlers and chasers running tomorrow at...Musselburgh! WTF! I'm a sprint man through and through, so get to analyse Border Reiver and his buddies in a 2m4f handicap chase.

Errrrgo, no time to analyse all-in 9,000 shoves into pots of 400 at the moment. But my diary is a slow burner frequented by some of the country's top pro punterers...no rush...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 25, 2011, 06:00:37 PM
I is struggling big styley for time at the moment.

When I gave my notice in to the Racing Post, I didn't realise it was two months' worth and also didn't realise they were going to work me to the max until early March. Can't blame them I guess.

So I'm now doing four spotlights a week for the next month and a half. Forgotten how much I like doing Spots. Before the weekend I hadn't done one for around 18 months but right back in the swing now. Comment for each horse and a betting forecast. Doing the betting forecast is the fun bit.

It's not really my time of year though and today I have mostly been studying hurdlers and chasers running tomorrow at...Musselburgh! WTF! I'm a sprint man through and through, so get to analyse Border Reiver and his buddies in a 2m4f handicap chase.

Errrrgo, no time to analyse all-in 9,000 shoves into pots of 400 at the moment. But my diary is a slow burner frequented by some of the country's top pro punterers...no rush...

8,500, please.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 25, 2011, 06:04:43 PM
FFS!

I've always been anti-fractions in my betting forecasts but can't log on to the RP system at the moment, so am reliant on one of the Racing Post boys to alter my prices when the tipsters' selections come through at 5.30pm.

Some Spotlighters seem to believe forecasts look more 'professional' with fractions, like 13-8, 9-2 etc, but this is a rough guide. Meh to 13-8, stick him in at 7-4, and meh to 9-2, stick him in at 5-1. Get the over-round % down.

Forecasts always want amending when the tips come in. Say I've stuck something in the Musselburgh bumper in at 16-1 and then four tips, inc Templegate and Rob Wright, come in for it. No way it's ever going off that price, so it'll get chopped to 8-1.

So I asked a Post mate to change my prices and just got the following text...

"17-2. ROFFLE!"

FML, I am FUMMING!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on January 25, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
So, essentially, you're telling us to ignore the Spotlight for the next few months?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 25, 2011, 06:13:09 PM
Norrrrrrrr, all in tomorrow on Kaolak, Ballymacduff, Tyrone House and Felix Yonger. Never let it be said I don't like a twig-hopping favourite north of the border.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Pelham Boy on January 25, 2011, 06:15:58 PM
Did you see the first at Leicester this afternoon? Remarkable effort by Sean Quinlon to keep Lucky Sunny out of the places.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 25, 2011, 06:21:04 PM
That ride from Quinlan was absurd, especially as I place laid the eventual third down the back straight.

Fair enough, the horse was not a proven stayer, had pulled very hard early and wouldn't have seen it out whatever (defo weakened near the finish) but it looked awful. You can't sit there motionless right up the home straight, including when level with the third over the last two hurdles. Quinlan's been around long enough to know better.

Colm McCormack was pretty tez at Ploughedfield too but that was just a complete misjudgement rather than anything suss.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 28, 2011, 12:41:03 AM
You see some of these IR prices flick up on betfair and think "WTF", but they're hard to catch most of the time.

Whoever laid 1000 about that McCoy winner at Warwick this afternoon is nuts. McCoy NEVER gives up. This was on a fancied runner in a small field race. Ridiculous. Serves him/them right really. Probably on-course boys.

Nearly chucked a few quid at him when he was around 20 down the back straight. It was around that time that he hit 1000. Who knows, might have got some of it. It's real split-second stuff. £33 or £44 at 1000? OK, thanks.

But I did manage to get matched on someone's fark up in the hunter chase at Thurles. Had place laid Viking Splash early at 2.16, then traded out for a no-loss at 7 mid-race. He never quite disappeared off the scene, though, and was closing in on the third going to the last. So I tried for £22 at 2 just to put twenty quid on the other side of the result. Those twenties and thirties add up over a day.

And it was matched. At 32! He finished third by a few lengths in the end. Someone had either clicked on the wrong horse or the lay side instead of the back side. For around £400. The other £380 wasn't matched and still available when the market suspended. That layer got lucky really.

Had I not traded early I'd have tried for maybe £44, £66 or £88 over the last and got a lot more of it. Grass is always greener obv.

Looking back at today my two main results came because someone else had farked up, which is becoming more of a trend on betfair the last year or so. The favourite for the Thurles maiden hurdles was the Jigginstown Stud horse with the blue cap, not the one in the first colours. Someone obv didn't realise and kept wanting to place lay. Then the hunter chase incident. Job done. In two tinpot races at Thurles.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 28, 2011, 01:06:29 AM
The mighty Posh have played 13 home matches this season. In those 13 games 61 goals have been scored at an average of going on five.

But the 'any other score' price on the betfair correct score market has nowhere near adjusted enough imo. In five of those games one team or other has scored the required four. We can't defend and have the best strike force in League 1. Still, even without McLean. In fact Tomlin is a big step up from McLean.

Any time we play a non top-six side at home this season I'm playing as long as the price is bigger than 4.5. Last weekend v Hartepool the price was 6.6. Because Hartlepool are pretty tight on the road. We beat them 4-0.

Has anyone looked into this? Definite angle imo. Am also thinking about Cardiff at home?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 28, 2011, 01:53:03 AM
Where did the poker report go?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 28, 2011, 02:04:35 AM
You see some of these IR prices flick up on betfair and think "WTF", but they're hard to catch most of the time.

Whoever laid 1000 about that McCoy winner at Warwick this afternoon is nuts. McCoy NEVER gives up. This was on a fancied runner in a small field race. Ridiculous. Serves him/them right really. Probably on-course boys.

Nearly chucked a few quid at him when he was around 20 down the back straight. It was around that time that he hit 1000. Who knows, might have got some of it. It's real split-second stuff. £33 or £44 at 1000? OK, thanks.

But I did manage to get matched on someone's fark up in the hunter chase at Thurles. Had place laid Viking Splash early at 2.16, then traded out for a no-loss at 7 mid-race. He never quite disappeared off the scene, though, and was closing in on the third going to the last. So I tried for £22 at 2 just to put twenty quid on the other side of the result. Those twenties and thirties add up over a day.

And it was matched. At 32! He finished third by a few lengths in the end. Someone had either clicked on the wrong horse or the lay side instead of the back side. For around £400. The other £380 was still not matched and still available when the market suspended. That layer got lucky really.

Had I not traded early I'd have tried for maybe £44, £66 or £88 over the last and got a lot more of it. Grass is always greener obv.

Looking back at today my two main results came because someone else had farked up, which is becoming more of a trend on betfair the last year or so. The favourite for the Thurles maiden hurdles was the Jigginstown Stud horse with the blue cap, not the one in the first colours. Someone obv didn't realise and kept wanting to place lay. Then the hunter chase incident. Job done. In two tinpot races at Thurles.

Why the peculiar amounts - £22, £44, £66, £88?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 28, 2011, 02:11:19 AM
You see some of these IR prices flick up on betfair and think "WTF", but they're hard to catch most of the time.

Whoever laid 1000 about that McCoy winner at Warwick this afternoon is nuts. McCoy NEVER gives up. This was on a fancied runner in a small field race. Ridiculous. Serves him/them right really. Probably on-course boys.

Nearly chucked a few quid at him when he was around 20 down the back straight. It was around that time that he hit 1000. Who knows, might have got some of it. It's real split-second stuff. £33 or £44 at 1000? OK, thanks.

But I did manage to get matched on someone's fark up in the hunter chase at Thurles. Had place laid Viking Splash early at 2.16, then traded out for a no-loss at 7 mid-race. He never quite disappeared off the scene, though, and was closing in on the third going to the last. So I tried for £22 at 2 just to put twenty quid on the other side of the result. Those twenties and thirties add up over a day.

And it was matched. At 32! He finished third by a few lengths in the end. Someone had either clicked on the wrong horse or the lay side instead of the back side. For around £400. The other £380 was still not matched and still available when the market suspended. That layer got lucky really.

Had I not traded early I'd have tried for maybe £44, £66 or £88 over the last and got a lot more of it. Grass is always greener obv.

Looking back at today my two main results came because someone else had farked up, which is becoming more of a trend on betfair the last year or so. The favourite for the Thurles maiden hurdles was the Jigginstown Stud horse with the blue cap, not the one in the first colours. Someone obv didn't realise and kept wanting to place lay. Then the hunter chase incident. Job done. In two tinpot races at Thurles.

Why the peculiar amounts - £22, £44, £66, £88?

I know the answer to that!!

But will let Choppy tell you as he was the one that taught me how to do it that way.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on January 28, 2011, 03:06:17 AM
Faster to type the same digits and press return than move all the way across to 0 in a world were every second is vital?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 28, 2011, 03:23:05 AM
You see some of these IR prices flick up on betfair and think "WTF", but they're hard to catch most of the time.

Whoever laid 1000 about that McCoy winner at Warwick this afternoon is nuts. McCoy NEVER gives up. This was on a fancied runner in a small field race. Ridiculous. Serves him/them right really. Probably on-course boys.

Nearly chucked a few quid at him when he was around 20 down the back straight. It was around that time that he hit 1000. Who knows, might have got some of it. It's real split-second stuff. £33 or £44 at 1000? OK, thanks.

But I did manage to get matched on someone's fark up in the hunter chase at Thurles. Had place laid Viking Splash early at 2.16, then traded out for a no-loss at 7 mid-race. He never quite disappeared off the scene, though, and was closing in on the third going to the last. So I tried for £22 at 2 just to put twenty quid on the other side of the result. Those twenties and thirties add up over a day.

And it was matched. At 32! He finished third by a few lengths in the end. Someone had either clicked on the wrong horse or the lay side instead of the back side. For around £400. The other £380 was still not matched and still available when the market suspended. That layer got lucky really.

Had I not traded early I'd have tried for maybe £44, £66 or £88 over the last and got a lot more of it. Grass is always greener obv.

Looking back at today my two main results came because someone else had farked up, which is becoming more of a trend on betfair the last year or so. The favourite for the Thurles maiden hurdles was the Jigginstown Stud horse with the blue cap, not the one in the first colours. Someone obv didn't realise and kept wanting to place lay. Then the hunter chase incident. Job done. In two tinpot races at Thurles.

Why the peculiar amounts - £22, £44, £66, £88?

I know the answer to that!!

But will let Horneris tell you as he wants to be a smart arse

FMP


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on January 30, 2011, 09:04:58 AM
Choppy,
Have u got any dimez on MurrayDonk?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 01, 2011, 07:51:46 AM
A long time ago in a land far far away at a time when there were no electronic screens and the races were called by commentary, I used to mark up the odds in a betting shop in Leicester. It was steady work but I used to come home smelling of bleach because the wipe clean boards were all buggered and it was my job to listen to the feed and mark up the odds of the runners of all the race meetings and the dogs. It was particularly hard work on Boxing Day due to the volume of meetings.

Well working in a bookies does give one an insight to what we can call the "average punter". We had one specific chap who only bet in units of £500 and only on odds on favourites. Well to say some of these horses had less chance of winning than my beloved West Ham would be an understatement. This guy one day had lost in excess of £1500 which in 1979 was not an inconsiderable amount of money. He was angry and started to get violent, so my female manager asked me to remove him from the shop. Hah! So much for sexual equality even in the seventies!!!! Anyway I strolled up to this guy and calmly pointed out that the manageress had called the police, which she hadn't, and it would be better if he left before they got here. So chuntering away he left the shop.

As I left the shop that evening he was standing there with a baseball bat to cave my head in. Nice guy. I ran but it taught me a valuable lesson. Don't back on odds on favourites.
Now why do I recount this story to you? Well I don't get all this new fangled betting in running stuff and I never bet on horses anyway but I still like a bet once a year.
My particular forte is long odds trebles on sports. I wrote about a succesful outcome to a treble I had a couple of years ago and find myself in position C on another one. You  see I have as the first leg, the Green Bay Packers at 16-1. I also have a double on the other two parts which are both live. When I asked people at the G about the Packers they told me in no uncertain terms why they wouldn't win indoors and this was before the playoffs. I am quite looking forward to the superbowl!!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 01, 2011, 11:29:47 AM
GLGLGLGL Snatty. I too remember Sir Donksalot pooh-poohing the idea of the Packers winning in the Georgia Dome. What were the other two legs for railing purposes? Leicester for the Heineken Cup obv and...?

Drainydonk, never bet on tennis any more. Did about ten years ago. Had my own 'tennis man'. But not now. Would never back the Scotch choker anyway, not until he actually does it.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 01, 2011, 02:55:44 PM
Following yr advice on the posh game tonight v sheff weds.

The away side seem to be fans of goals galore as well, obv a clear nil nil now.

Anyways ive had a cheeky tenner on the unmatched score on betfair at 6.6 and the same on 5 or more goals in the game at 4-1, also a diver on 6 or more at 8-1.

Sweat ftw please!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 01, 2011, 06:31:23 PM
Don't worry about it being 0-0. We NEVER have 0-0s.

Sheff Wed are on a downward spiral at the moment. Should be fun. Just about to put on the mittens (can't buy gloves in the fens) and head up the A1.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 01, 2011, 07:06:04 PM
Text in from one of my Eurovision buddies...

"See we have given up on the trusting British public. Blue to perform for UK in Eurovision and song already chosen"

Just sigh. Our mob has no idea what's needed to win the Eurovision these days.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on February 01, 2011, 07:08:15 PM
Blue are quality.

Have all their albums.

Got the eurovision on lockdown imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 01, 2011, 07:28:02 PM
Blue are quality.

Have all their albums.

Got the eurovision on lockdown imo.

Always thought you looked like a fan of blue album's...or shld that be vids?

:)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: henrik777 on February 01, 2011, 09:32:17 PM
Following yr advice on the posh game tonight v sheff weds.

The away side seem to be fans of goals galore as well, obv a clear nil nil now.

Anyways ive had a cheeky tenner on the unmatched score on betfair at 6.6 and the same on 5 or more goals in the game at 4-1, also a diver on 6 or more at 8-1.

Sweat ftw please!

Scoop. Not much of a sweat though !!!

Sandy


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 01, 2011, 09:34:49 PM
Following yr advice on the posh game tonight v sheff weds.

The away side seem to be fans of goals galore as well, obv a clear nil nil now.

Anyways ive had a cheeky tenner on the unmatched score on betfair at 6.6 and the same on 5 or more goals in the game at 4-1, also a diver on 6 or more at 8-1.

Sweat ftw please!

Scoop. Not much of a sweat though !!!

Sandy

Smallish sweat near end for the last part.

:)

Cheers chomps!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on February 01, 2011, 10:01:44 PM
Enjoy the game Choppy? Was it epic?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 01, 2011, 10:20:43 PM
Epic beyond belief.

For now, will allow myself a quick...

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-boooooooooooommmmmmmmmm!

Adrenalin should be out of my system by 4am roughly.

Freerolling on the same bet for the next five matches. Would be amazed if it doesn't rebink before the end of the fifth. Starting with Soton on Saturday probably.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 02, 2011, 07:11:35 AM
GLGLGLGL Snatty. I too remember Sir Donksalot pooh-poohing the idea of the Packers winning in the Georgia Dome. What were the other two legs for railing purposes? Leicester for the Heineken Cup obv and...?

Drainydonk, never bet on tennis any more. Did about ten years ago. Had my own 'tennis man'. But not now. Would never back the Scotch choker anyway, not until he actually does it.

Packers at 16's Tigers at 9's Leicester City for promotion at 12's...............oh come on lord just one more time


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nakor on February 02, 2011, 07:41:56 PM
Epic beyond belief.

For now, will allow myself a quick...

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-boooooooooooommmmmmmmmm!

Adrenalin should be out of my system by 4am roughly.

Freerolling on the same bet for the next five matches. Would be amazed if it doesn't rebink before the end of the fifth. Starting with Soton on Saturday probably.

Would it be possible to get a "walk up" ticket on the day Saturday?
Or does that sort of thing not happen any more in case I am a hooligan?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 02, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
Yup, you'd get in no worries. As it's on Sky I'd expect a gate of around 8,000, with 2,000 odd of that lot being Saints fans.

For extra value, stand in my usual spot in the London Road end, level with the left-hand edge of the six-yard box and level with the crossbar. All sorts of assembled characters to enjoy. Including the guy that shout "Get it on the floor Peterborough" a dozen times a game.

I'll be watching on Sky. Too much excitement for one week already. Posh 4-6 Soton.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on February 03, 2011, 01:03:02 AM
is this diary still going?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 01:05:59 AM
 ;booder;


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on February 03, 2011, 01:10:53 AM
Didn't want to say it..but...cmon chomp some background of your life, loves,highs lows...not how many legs the winner at Kemptons got...yawn


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 03, 2011, 01:17:54 AM
Do you use Gruss?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on February 03, 2011, 01:19:49 AM
Blue Stratos or Brut 33?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on February 03, 2011, 08:03:11 AM
Didn't want to say it..but...cmon chomp some background of your life, loves,highs lows...not how many legs the winner at Kemptons got...yawn

Ok, I've got one to start it off (and I honestly don't know the answer to this)

How did u end up being a punterer Clompy?
Have u ever had a proper/normal job?

Thank u in advance sir

Drunky


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 03, 2011, 09:27:21 AM
Yeah and where do you get those sweaters from 8/13 says they arrive every Xmas


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: chrisbruce on February 03, 2011, 11:17:33 AM
Tipstering is a funny old game.

Nirvana has gone to Towcester this afternoon after deciding he's better at watching racing than poker.

So he asked me for a few tips on facebook last night. I went through one race at a time and typed something like, "LOLZ, Steven Boow has put Kinkeel in at 13/8 for the second!"

That was as far as I went with it. Kinkeel would never go off 13/8. Not even in a walkover.

Obv I've just got a text "LOL Kinkeel" after he won.

At 4/1 though I'd have been all over him if I was there. Backed him at 11.5 IR. Yes yes aftertiming!

Kinkeel IR is ABC stuff. Runs over two miles...lay him pre-race...back him when he comes off the bridle...then sit back and watch him grind past them up the hill. Yes yes aftertiming!


Kinkeel runs again at Towcester today - any thoughts?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: hugob055 on February 03, 2011, 12:11:28 PM
Tipstering is a funny old game.

Nirvana has gone to Towcester this afternoon after deciding he's better at watching racing than poker.

So he asked me for a few tips on facebook last night. I went through one race at a time and typed something like, "LOLZ, Steven Boow has put Kinkeel in at 13/8 for the second!"

That was as far as I went with it. Kinkeel would never go off 13/8. Not even in a walkover.

Obv I've just got a text "LOL Kinkeel" after he won.

At 4/1 though I'd have been all over him if I was there. Backed him at 11.5 IR. Yes yes aftertiming!

Kinkeel IR is ABC stuff. Runs over two miles...lay him pre-race...back him when he comes off the bridle...then sit back and watch him grind past them up the hill. Yes yes aftertiming!


Kinkeel runs again at Towcester today - any thoughts?


did u not read the last sentence


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
Yup, more of the same with Kinky this afternoon. Place lay pre, ask for it back at 5, lay ftw mid if he goes short then ask for it back at something just into double figures. Sounds like a plan. Pre-timing today, wiiiiiiii.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on February 03, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
Yup, more of the same with Kinky this afternoon. Place lay pre, ask for it back at 5, lay ftw mid if he goes short then ask for it back at something just into double figures. Sounds like a plan. Pre-timing today, wiiiiiiii.

In English?

Genuinely, any chance you could spell that out in lay language, please?

"place lay pre, ask for it back at 5, if it goes short ask for it back" & so on.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on February 03, 2011, 12:38:35 PM
+1

NFI?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 01:29:50 PM
Yup, more of the same with Kinky this afternoon. Place lay pre, ask for it back at 5, lay ftw mid if he goes short then ask for it back at something just into double figures. Sounds like a plan. Pre-timing today, wiiiiiiii.

In English?

Genuinely, any chance you could spell that out in lay language, please?

"place lay pre, ask for it back at 5, if it goes short ask for it back" & so on.

OK, here goes...

Kinkeel runs pretty much the same race every time. He'll look fine for a mile but will then come off the bridle somewhere down the back straight. This is the time to trade him, before his up-the-toaster-hill stamina comes into play.

So I'll be laying him for a place pre-race. And trying to back him back when he comes under presh. Hopefully the 5.1 layer, who likes to lay everything that looks in trouble at 5.1 for a few ton, will oblige.

I'll also stick up a bit at 4 IR and then try to trade it at 10 on the win market.

Sounds more complicated than it is probz.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 03, 2011, 01:42:02 PM
Whereas I will just go and make myself a nice cup of tea.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Laxie on February 03, 2011, 01:49:47 PM
Whereas I will just go and make myself a nice cup of tea.

Make two as yer at it, ta. 

Trying to keep up with all the lingo in this diary, but struggle sometimes.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 02:15:58 PM
They never learn, good old Kinky...

Place betting IR...

5.10               £70         
6.00               £39         
11.00               £17    

I got none of the 5.1, sigh


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on February 03, 2011, 02:18:40 PM
They never learn, good old Kinky...

Place betting IR...

5.10               £70         
6.00               £39         
11.00               £17    

I got none of the 5.1, sigh

Sorry, but once again, translation plerase?

I will enjoy this thread even more if I understand all this stuff. Meat & drink to you, gobbeldeygook to me. And I don't think I'm entirely alone. ;)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 02:34:26 PM
Diff class chompy.  Only did it small as i dont really follow the horses but know enough about the game to do what you instructed on betfair.

I got all the 5.1 sorry on the place.  Just glad i never got more matched pre race on the place market as i wouldnt have been able to get rid of it.  860/1 was done on the beast in running to win the race.  Incred.  Nearly got up.  Feel robbed that i bet it back at 9.8 in running on the win market and hadnt been a bit more greedy and asked for 50s!!!!

A risk free win is a win 1/2 mile out though so shouldnt complain.  Esp as the fav fell early.  I thought the lay offs in runnning might never happen.  If it still happens when the short priced fav falls this beast must be a dream IR every time it runs.

Horse Racing > Towc 3rd Feb : 2m Hcap Chs Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
 
Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Kinkeel  9.80 100.00 Back 03-Feb-11 14:04  -100.00
Kinkeel  4.20 222.00 Lay 03-Feb-11 14:06  222.00
*Average odds: On  Off  Back subtotal: -100.00
Lay subtotal: 222.00
Market subtotal: 122.00
Commission @ 2%: 2.44
Net Market Total: 119.56
  
 
Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Kinkeel  5.10 35.00 Back 03-Feb-11 14:10  143.50
Kinkeel  2.66 76.66 Lay 03-Feb-11 14:07  -127.25
*Average odds: On  Off  Back subtotal: 143.50
Lay subtotal: -127.25
Market subtotal: 16.25
Commission @ 2.03%: 0.33
Net Market Total: 15.92


  


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 02:36:04 PM
Yup, no more IR jargon.

Pleasing to finally have an afternoon of just betting IR and no Racing Post work in between. Covered over 100 Wolverhampton runners the last couple of days and that's 100 too many. Hapless task trying to predict what's gonna happen in all-weather races. Nothing to say about most of them. Zzztastic. Do like Garstang tomorrow night though.

Got so used to tiddle-arsing (Edna phrase that's perfection), getting up whenever, playing a bit of online scrabz, ambling down the gym, or whatever, that this spotlight stuff is a shock to the system.

Way behind with cinema stuff but will force myself to the G tonight as LML is gonna be present apparently.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on February 03, 2011, 02:37:58 PM

No, we want more IR Stuff - but some of us just need a bit of help with the lingo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 02:38:24 PM
Wpwpwpwp doglayer. See what happens? I flag it up on here and the pooch brigade come in and nick all the valooooooo!

Nah, don't mind at all really, I traded out ealier this time so was never getting any 5.1. That 5.1 layer makes me laugh. He must lose over time, gets so many wrong.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 02:45:21 PM

No, we want more IR Stuff - but some of us just need a bit of help with the lingo.

The Racing Post have missed a real trick here. When they started Trading Post around five years ago it was supposed to be a page solely dedicated to exchange players, focusing on IR stuff. Matt Williams was the main man and I was gonna fill in two or three days a week when he was off work.

The page started well but then gradually became just another standard tipping piece. They dropped me without telling me. Standard for them. Then Matt left about a year ago just to bet IR full time. They lost a good man when he left.

One obvious idea they never tried was a race by race IR guide, pointing out the likes of Kinkeel. Never asked me though  :(


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 02:47:38 PM
Quite incred that what you said would happen pre race virtually happened to the letter even at the distances you said they would.  Towcester is a brutal track though and many a mug IR punter must have been on the phone to ocean finance after a bad one at towcester. 


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 02:53:04 PM
Whatever happened to those marv Ocean Finance ads on ATR?

Used to be perfect for the stay-at-home punter. Two adverts rotating. One for Ocean Finance to borrow back the money you've just lost, and one for Chums Trousers, waistband up to 52".


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 03, 2011, 02:54:15 PM
are there tracks where IR cannot work so well?

I understand Towcester will because of topography, and I suppose the same applies to the Cheltenham hill..but when they are going round the flat park course like Haydock or Sandown then surely one of your major variables in profitability, namely the quirks of the course, is removed?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 02:57:51 PM
Not really. Two complete non-truths in racing. One that trying to make all the running is 'doing it the hard way'. Two, that it's easier to make all the running on an easy course/course with flat or downhill finish.

Anyone starting out betting IR on the Flat would do worse than to back any horse that gets an easy lead round a stiff course. Stiff courses = the likes of Beverley, Sandown, Carlisle, quite a few others.

I have my favourite IR courses, Hexham and Towcester, and least favourite, Southwell and Bath, but they're all playable.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 02:58:18 PM
kelso pretty bad i think because of the awful camera angle late on.   Sure from memory of reading the Rpost betting books i got one xmas!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 03, 2011, 03:00:33 PM

No, we want more IR Stuff - but some of us just need a bit of help with the lingo.

The Racing Post have missed a real trick here. When they started Trading Post around five years ago it was supposed to be a page solely dedicated to exchange players, focusing on IR stuff. Matt Williams was the main man and I was gonna fill in two or three days a week when he was off work.

The page started well but then gradually became just another standard tipping piece. They dropped me without telling me. Standard for them. Then Matt left about a year ago just to bet IR full time. They lost a good man when he left.

One obvious idea they never tried was a race by race IR guide, pointing out the likes of Kinkeel. Never asked me though  :(

Surely you'll make more money by using your knowledge of the IR game, than you would earn imparting gems like Kinkeel on the betting public in the RP.

The thing which always annoys me about the post is how price insensitive their tipsters are (in the main).

A horse who is a lay at 2.1 might well be a good bet at 2.5. I doubt I've ever seen a tipster say something like this in the Post.

Segal is incred, but the rest are moderate, you are better off without them.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 03:02:37 PM
The original owner of ocean finance has sold up i think.  I have seen him in several casinos around the uk and he is a monster punter.  He would routinely sit at a roulette table with £100k to start a session if the table limits made it possible.  From memory i think he took 10% off stanleys share price in one night a few years ago at star city in bham when he took them for £3m.  It was a full page story in the sun.  Maybe with him selling up the new owners dont quite have the punting angle he had and dont use the racing media.  Although its a perfect medium for their product.  


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Dubai on February 03, 2011, 03:03:48 PM
Price is king too. Doesnt matter what it is everything has its price and a change in price SHOULD force people to turn it from a lay to back and visa versa


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 03:05:47 PM
I agree Mr Camel. No good to me to have IR pointers printed in the trade paper but I was salaried by them, so if they asked me I'd have done it of course.

Also agree about the calibre of tipsters now compared to five years ago. Spotlight team is going to be stretched beyond belief when evening racing starts. I wish them gl sir, they are going to need it. They'll have no life for four months.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 03:06:09 PM
The only rpost journo who does mention prices and what is a back or lay is pullien and unsurprisingly he is prob the only one every year who actually makes it pay.  Also why 95% of days recommendation no bet because the prices have no edge.  The funny thing is the guy is constantly slated on forums (esp betfair) for never giving a bet out.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 03:10:23 PM
Kevin Pullein used to work for the Outlook when I was in the Compton office about ten years ago. Only came into the office on press days, so never got to speak to him much, but he lives and breathes football stats. Knows the game that's for sure.

Don't know how he pans out as a punter though. Just hope he doesn't start tipping Posh home games to have one team or other score four before the end of the season. Am loving this edge. Another six point something available v Soton on Saturday.

Price is defo king in tipstering. Myself and Matt Williams used to put max lay prices up in Trading Post. Now that was an interesting column to write a few years ago. Don't even read it now.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 03, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
The only rpost journo who does mention prices and what is a back or lay is pullien and unsurprisingly he is prob the only one every year who actually makes it pay.  Also why 95% of days recommendation no bet because the prices have no edge.  The funny thing is the guy is constantly slated on forums (esp betfair) for never giving a bet out.

I was talking about the Racing guys only.

I think the sports section is alot better than the horses, Pullein is very good, Langdon is top notch and Palmer, while not in their class as a tipster is a brilliant writer.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on February 03, 2011, 03:19:56 PM
Pullein is very good.  For a while I would have paid good money for him to shut up given how many angles he has alerted the layers to over the years.  Does Paul Stansfield still write spotlights for the post??  He used to odds compile for a firm I worked for and was very good.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 03:20:07 PM
langdon and palmer are truely shocking.  Like every other (bar pullien) sports writer they have to put up a bet.  Some of their stuff is just insane.  Tipping up first goal scorer yankees for example!  Sure there was a thread on the bf forum stating the annual losses to a £10 or £100 unit stake and both were so far behind it was untrue.  

When you think they are tipping prices which have probably gone in the shops on a thurs/Fri for the weekends games and they have access to so much info from all the firms PR guys who they are in bed with for advertising reasons in the Post it is quite shocking you would loss a fortune following them in.  Then again their wages are paid by the firms advertising budgets so it doesnt make much sense tipping up winners.  hence the first goal scorer yankee selections.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 03, 2011, 03:24:09 PM
langdon and palmer are truely shocking.  Like every other (bar pullien) sports writer they have to put up a bet.  Some of their stuff is just insane.  Tipping up first goal scorer yankees for example!  Sure there was a thread on the bf forum stating the annual losses to a £10 or £100 unit stake and both were so far behind it was untrue.  

When you think they are tipping prices which have probably gone in the shops on a thurs/Fri for the weekends games and they have access to so much info from all the firms PR guys who they are in bed with for advertising reasons in the Post it is quite shocking you would loss a fortune following them in.  Then again their wages are paid by the firms advertising budgets so it doesnt make much sense tipping up winners.  hence the first goal scorer yankee selections.

Don't blame the writers for tipping up first g/scorer yankees or whatever, blame editor, they are only doing what they've been told to do.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 03:30:04 PM
Its the same as pricewise.  I am the first to admit i know nothing about horse racing but how many serious horse judges could make the same unit profit as pricewise does unit wise if they were given the pick of the prices on a friday lunchtime.  Obvious the reality of ever getting on at those prices makes it impossible to follow him and make any serious money.   I just think the guy is overrated and i am sure there are loads of judges out there who given the same circumstances could show a simliar 'paper' profit over a year.

Does anyone know if Segal actually wins at prices you could actually get on with? Rather than the year end profit figures which obviously include say a 50/1 winner which was 50's with tote or boyles and 40's everywhere else and goes off 20/1.  Given his figures would show a profit on that race at 50 units (ie 10 more than the general 40/1 available).


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 03, 2011, 03:34:57 PM
Its the same as pricewise.  I am the first to admit i know nothing about horse racing but how many serious horse judges could make the same unit profit as pricewise does unit wise if they were given the pick of the prices on a friday lunchtime.  Obvious the reality of ever getting on at those prices makes it impossible to follow him and make any serious money.   I just think the guy is overrated and i am sure there are loads of judges out there who given the same circumstances could show a simliar 'paper' profit over a year.

Does anyone know if Segal actually wins at prices you could actually get on with? Rather than the year end profit figures which obviously include say a 50/1 winner which was 50's with tote or boyles and 40's everywhere else and goes off 20/1.  Given his figures would show a profit on that race at 50 units (ie 10 more than the general 40/1 available).

One of my best friends used to work with Segal before he moved to the RP.

My friend is mega shrewd and a big winner, and he still claims Segal is the best judge he's ever come across (my friend does not know Chompy obv!)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 03:40:08 PM
fair enough.  I am not disputing he isnt decent.  Just wonder how decent thats all. 


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
Do you use Gruss?

Don't use Gruss or any other software.
A guy who played the £100 at Luton Circus the other day is an IR player in the Highgate Elitebet. We got chatting at the table, as you do.
I asked him if he used software. "Yup, Gruss, you?". "Er, nope, just type it manually. From home." They never believe me I swear. I am such a dinosaur when it comes to IR.
Tried software for a couple of weeks but can't get on with it at all. Of course, the premium charge was bought in by Betfair coz they have to do stuff their end to support software or some shit. But I don't use software and they still have 20% off me each week. Sure is fair.
There you go. First premium charge whinge took over a month. Quite proud of myself.

Blue Stratos or Brut 33?

Don't use software or aftershave. I'm an aftershave dinosaur obv.

Yeah and where do you get those sweaters from 8/13 says they arrive every Xmas

Sigh, time to admit it, the hoopy numbers were both gifts. Try to avoid clothes shopping at all costs. Probably go once a year when there's a hoop sale on. I'm a clothes shopping dinosaur also.

Drainydonk, wrote about jobs'n'shit earlier in the diaryear. You mean you haven't read it?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 03, 2011, 04:13:12 PM
views on the prem charge chompy?  Do you pay it every week/month without fail? 


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
Have no choice unf. They take it every Wednesday lunchtime. No way round it.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Matt50 on February 03, 2011, 04:54:59 PM
Do you have a target that you aim to make each week/month or just go with whatever you make?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on February 03, 2011, 05:13:03 PM
langdon and palmer are truely shocking.  Like every other (bar pullien) sports writer they have to put up a bet.  Some of their stuff is just insane.  Tipping up first goal scorer yankees for example!  Sure there was a thread on the bf forum stating the annual losses to a £10 or £100 unit stake and both were so far behind it was untrue.  

When you think they are tipping prices which have probably gone in the shops on a thurs/Fri for the weekends games and they have access to so much info from all the firms PR guys who they are in bed with for advertising reasons in the Post it is quite shocking you would loss a fortune following them in.  Then again their wages are paid by the firms advertising budgets so it doesnt make much sense tipping up winners.  hence the first goal scorer yankee selections.

Langdon's banker etc on a Saturday are well worth following TBH. I would be very surprised if you'd be down after a full season of backing his bankers and doubles


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2011, 05:30:38 PM
Do you have a target that you aim to make each week/month or just go with whatever you make?

Targets ftw. The target for the week is now half what it was three years ago. Says it all I guess, although the 20% premium charge is part of the difference.

Also, just for Drainy...



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on February 03, 2011, 09:33:30 PM
Do you have a target that you aim to make each week/month or just go with whatever you make?

Targets ftw. The target for the week is now half what it was three years ago.


With a bit of luck you'll be staying at Imperial Pigeon soon


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: action man on February 04, 2011, 12:20:23 AM
my biggest bet of the season is on ipswich 1/1 at hoem to sheff utd, thoughts plz


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 04, 2011, 12:29:34 AM
Not really my area Mr Trigg sir but I do know Sheff Utd were shite away last season and the worst team to come to London Road by far. As bad this season it seems.

What's the thinking?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: action man on February 04, 2011, 12:50:57 AM
ipswich new manager, jimmy bullard pulling strings, got a result @ derby and i love following teams at home on a saturday  that have won away midweek. Sheff utd are woreful.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 04, 2011, 07:08:06 AM
Dear Feland punterer

after our exchange last night and having now got 12 to 1, I think It is important that I fully explain my reason for suggesting a Newcastle relegation party at the end of the season.

1. ameobi is injured so who the hell is going to score
2. The Pardew factor
In the 2006–07 season Pardew was criticised after seeing West Ham through their worst run of defeats in over 70 years which included an exit from the UEFA Cup to Palermo in the very first round[10] and a League Cup defeat to Chesterfield.
Oh and before you say it yes I know he took us to an FA Cup final the year before
3. Spite - I lost a tooth in Newcastle when it kicked off a couple of decades ago

I think the Matrix has decided that the Newcastle yo yo is in full swing!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 04, 2011, 07:58:10 AM
Dear Feland punterer

after our exchange last night and having now got 12 to 1, I think It is important that I fully explain my reason for suggesting a Newcastle relegation party at the end of the season.

1. ameobi is injured so who the hell is going to score
2. The Pardew factor
In the 2006–07 season Pardew was criticised after seeing West Ham through their worst run of defeats in over 70 years which included an exit from the UEFA Cup to Palermo in the very first round[10] and a League Cup defeat to Chesterfield.
Oh and before you say it yes I know he took us to an FA Cup final the year before
3. Spite - I lost a tooth in Newcastle when it kicked off a couple of decades ago

I think the Matrix has decided that the Newcastle yo yo is in full swing!

I took the 20-1 as soon as carrol was sold. Then again i also lumped on blackburn at 16-1 when big sam was sacked, dsnt look so great now.

Gotta admit i'm half tempted to back everton if they are anywhere near the 40-1 they were last week, with moyes so high in the next manager to go betting, a thin squad and a wide open league bar the top 5 or 6, anything could happen this season!

Edit-Just seen everton are a best priced 28s with coral, cheeky tenner on.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on February 04, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
Do you have a target that you aim to make each week/month or just go with whatever you make?

Targets ftw. The target for the week is now half what it was three years ago. Says it all I guess, although the 20% premium charge is part of the difference.

Also, just for Drainy...



Ty sir - I can relate to that (as for the rest? fark knows!)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 04, 2011, 11:11:46 AM
Posh-tinted stats with which to jinx the Saturday tea-time encounter:

    • There have been 107 goals in Peterborough's 26 games
    • This bet has come in 14 times from those 26 games
    • This bet has come in nine times from 14 home games
    • In those five other games, three goals have been scored
    • In the pair's last seven, this bet has come in four times

Inevitably, a goalless draw awaits. If you'd rather take the +2.5 goals (it's 8-5 on), though for the braver souls among you, +4.5 goals is available at 7-2, a bet that has come in seven times from the 14 home Posh games.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 04, 2011, 11:57:20 AM
game also pulled from goals galore coupon, grr


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 04, 2011, 02:56:38 PM
Not much available on betty at the moment but 6.6 is the price we should be aiming for.

In our favour this is a later kick off and live on Sky, so there will be plenty traded on the match. The market will also be reopened on kick-off, which will allow the chance to trade out for a freebie if there are a couple of early goals.

and I'm expecting a couple of early goals.

Just hope for no major wind tomorrow. A nice normal day, normal pitch, no wind, useless defenders and the best strikers in the league on show for both teams.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on February 05, 2011, 12:45:51 AM
Dear Feland punterer

after our exchange last night and having now got 12 to 1, I think It is important that I fully explain my reason for suggesting a Newcastle relegation party at the end of the season.

1. ameobi is injured so who the hell is going to score
2. The Pardew factor
In the 2006–07 season Pardew was criticised after seeing West Ham through their worst run of defeats in over 70 years which included an exit from the UEFA Cup to Palermo in the very first round[10] and a League Cup defeat to Chesterfield.
Oh and before you say it yes I know he took us to an FA Cup final the year before
3. Spite - I lost a tooth in Newcastle when it kicked off a couple of decades ago

I think the Matrix has decided that the Newcastle yo yo is in full swing!

Think this is a really great bet and possibly better than the (also good) that Keith has taken that Newcastle score less than a goal a game in their games for the rest of the season.  there really isn't that much between the bottom 12-13 in the Prem and all are very susceptible to injuries (or selling their best player)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2011, 01:00:55 AM
game also pulled from goals galore coupon, grr

That is so pathetic.

They have a huge edge on that coupon and can't give the poor punter a tiny chance.

I hate bookmakers sometimes.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on February 05, 2011, 02:43:20 AM
game also pulled from goals galore coupon, grr

That is so pathetic.

They have a huge edge on that coupon and can't give the poor punter a tiny chance.

I hate bookmakers sometimes.

Where is the edge, just all the mugs doing million timers?

Was there a thread were you explained why it was shit, i can't remember?

Only reason I ask is that one of my mates keeps doing trebles and an acca from 4 selections and he argued that it has to be good value when he is getting 4/5 on 4/6 shots (both teams to score bookies prices on the selections he does after his research) and I failed to launch a reasonable counter argument, i just kept saying it should be renamed Mugs Galore.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on February 05, 2011, 02:57:49 AM
game also pulled from goals galore coupon, grr

That is so pathetic.

They have a huge edge on that coupon and can't give the poor punter a tiny chance.

I hate bookmakers sometimes.

Where is the edge, just all the mugs doing million timers?

Was there a thread were you explained why it was shit, i can't remember?

Only reason I ask is that one of my mates keeps doing trebles and an acca from 4 selections and he argued that it has to be good value when he is getting 4/5 on 4/6 shots (both teams to score bookies prices on the selections he does after his research) and I failed to launch a reasonable counter argument, i just kept saying it should be renamed Mugs Galore.


If you are genuinely getting 4/5 about things that are 4/6 on Betfair then the punter does have an edge but the thing is that the bookies use the coupons totally to their own ends.  If a price has moved then no punter can get it to any kind of size but if a punter puts the other side in one of their accas they never ever give the punter the new increased price and unless you are really picking and choosing then the multiplication of the margin means that they really do have a huge theoretical margin.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2011, 05:43:33 PM
More marv defending there, sigh.

Usual pattern is we go 2-0 down, then 2-1 on half-time, then start playing in the second half shooting towards our own fans. Goals coming.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2011, 05:50:59 PM
LOOOOOOOOOL, Mark Little v Alex Chamberlain, as if!

Let the trading begin


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 05, 2011, 06:22:58 PM
funny to think after 15 minutes i was sweating the 0-0 lay at 22/1!!!!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2011, 06:23:15 PM
Laid Southampton @ 1.15.

gogogogogogo Posh.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 05, 2011, 06:26:15 PM
bit gutted the game is a draw at ht because in a game like this the 28/1 shot ht fts posh x soton and ston x posh are monster value given the goal expectations.  Was praying soton would hold on til ht.  never mind.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2011, 06:27:34 PM
bokked em

more than enough to get back in this..


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 05, 2011, 06:29:12 PM
its quite incredible how bad posh are at one end of the pitch and how good they seem at the other end.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 05, 2011, 06:29:59 PM
then the 4th goes in.  lmao


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2011, 06:42:18 PM
Bink!

This is one of our better defensive performaces...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 05, 2011, 06:52:58 PM
betfair down for the 3rd time today!!  you cant make it up.  At least all the posh positions are already settled.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2011, 07:12:49 PM
Well played Mr Camel.

Sure was a penalty, roffle


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2011, 07:17:37 PM
Well played Mr Camel.

Sure was a penalty, roffle

More of a pen than Southamapton's second one!

CMS, Boyd and Lewis must be heartily sick of playing so well and letting in 4.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2011, 07:22:17 PM
It's always the same. Tomlin was quiet tonight. Midfield is fine, espesh with Ball now in and Frecklington nearly back. Front three - Boyd, Mackail, Tomlin - awesome.

Full backs the worst in history. Can't do anything about it until the summer, so don't see any reason why things will change short term. Joe Lewis isn't as good as made out.

They'll improve when Zakuani comes back in a few weeks but, until then, we're away at Charlton on Tuesday. More of the same thanks if any other score is 5.6 or bigger.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 05, 2011, 07:37:16 PM
10 2 3 45 32

What a redic home record.  77 goals in 15 games.  Surely the best value season ticket in the world.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 05, 2011, 07:40:43 PM
Dear Darren Ferguson

FFS Get in the two ugliest stoppers you can find, on loan, and the best defensive midfielder you can find in a Championship reserve team.

Stick them in, concede only two a game, get into the plAy offs by winning games 4-2 not drawing 4-4, losing 2-5 etc

Still allow CMS and Boyd to do what they want but get the rest of the team orgnaised!

How can Posh manager after Posh manager not sort this? they are meant to be professional managers!



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2011, 07:49:44 PM
Joe Lewis is the best keeper in League 1 as well.

The club is remarkable.

Were you at the Brighton game Graham?

How would rate Brighton against Southampton?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on February 05, 2011, 07:55:13 PM
we're away at Charlton on Tuesday

looking forward to this. our strikeforce should tear your defence apart and vice versa


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2011, 08:01:36 PM
Dear Darren Ferguson,

Leave things as they are thanks. At least until the 'any other score' price on Betty drops below 5. I love this team more than any Posh team I can remember.

And if Owen or Karl Oyston comes in for Boydy in the summer out of his Charlie Adam funds and says he wants him as a "like for like", please don't laugh and don't point out that Charlie Adam isn't an inconsistent winger who chokes when going higher than League One. Accept his orange dimes with glee.

Brighton >>> Soton for me Camel.

You could have Liz Lieu one wing and Doyle Brunson in a buggy down the other and still take care of our full backs Gatso.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doglayer on February 05, 2011, 08:08:04 PM
the funniest thing about the game was the over 2.5 goals price drifting from 8/15 to 8/13 on betfair in the 15 minutes before the game started.  I assume that was just 'mugs' thinking how can a game ever be this short over 2.5 goals when the fav (away from home) is 5/4 against to win.  Its logical in most circumstances but clearly not here.  Hills were 2/5 over 2.5!!!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 06, 2011, 09:51:30 PM
Just been through the Super Bowl novelty bets. Paddy Power were going 7/2 that I Gotta Feeling is the first song by the Black Eyed Peas at half-time. Missed one here.

They had their new cover of The Time (Of My Life) at odds on. Possible but I'd have made I Gotta Feeling fav...

I gotta feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good, good night

A feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good, good night

A feeling, woohoo, that tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good, good night

A feeling, woohoo, that tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good night
That tonight's gonna be a good, good night

Tonight's the night, let's live it up
I got my money, let's spend it up
Go out and smash it like oh my God
Jump off that sofa, let's get, get off

Would probably only have got a nifty on it but potentially easy money. Managed to get £200 about Beautfiful Day (4/6) being U2's first song a few years ago. Now that WAS buying money.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: AndrewT on February 06, 2011, 09:53:36 PM
I Gotta Feeling last song surely?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 06, 2011, 09:56:30 PM
Have you seen time to sing National Anthem betting anywhere?

One of my friends has a clue its going to be a long one tonight..


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: AndrewT on February 06, 2011, 10:12:37 PM
Have you seen time to sing National Anthem betting anywhere?

One of my friends has a clue its going to be a long one tonight..

Found this but don't understand the American betting.

http://www.sportsbookreview.net/news/super-bowl-xlv-prop-betting-odds-bet-on-national-anthem-length.html


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 06, 2011, 11:01:00 PM
Over 1m54s just to sing the word 'Ohhhhhhh'?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: AndrewT on February 06, 2011, 11:25:11 PM
I made that 1m 54s.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2011, 11:25:56 PM
Shippit. 10 seconds on the word brave. I bought at 6.

Freerolling the game now lol


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: AndrewT on February 06, 2011, 11:28:16 PM
Shippit. 10 seconds on the word brave. I bought at 6.

Freerolling the game now lol

Such a degen.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 06, 2011, 11:36:14 PM
I made that 1m 54s.

Was it really 1m54? Looked like she'd been told to speed things up a bit


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on February 07, 2011, 01:10:14 AM
Nice call.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: claypole on February 07, 2011, 01:10:36 AM
Youre very good....


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 07, 2011, 01:25:25 AM
F

M

L

I blame work. If I was tiddle-arsing as usual I'd have been through the specials on Friday. Meh.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 07, 2011, 06:50:43 AM
So away we go with yet another mystical treble....With leicester City winning at the weekend, and young Floody looking in good nick for England, I have a feeling that this one is going to run for a while!

My new system is to take a saver single on the first event to finish and a double on the last two. We is free rolling towards events 2 & 3 but I fancy there will be some betting to do against my picks as time and events move forwards

Oh my THE PACK ARE BACK!!

PS. Missed the game, too busy sleeping


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on February 07, 2011, 10:03:22 AM
So away we go with yet another mystical treble....With leicester City winning at the weekend, and young Floody looking in good nick for England, I have a feeling that this one is going to run for a while!

My new system is to take a saver single on the first event to finish and a double on the last two. We is free rolling towards events 2 & 3 but I fancy there will be some betting to do against my picks as time and events move forwards

Oh my THE PACK ARE BACK!!

PS. Missed the game, too busy sleeping

Shame was an excellent game... despite the steelers trying their best to throw it away...3 turovers ffs..they refused to die and took it to the wire. Was an intriguing contest with the packers secondary getting banged up in the 2nd qtr and losing their leader in woodson to a bad shoulder injury...Big Ben got into the groove and reduced an 18 point gap to 3 but the steelers number one defence were not in their usual top form... palamoolu was virtually invisible all night and gb qtrback was being super accurate.
was a 6 pointer at the 2min warning and steelers driving but couldnt come even close to make the winning drive. In the end it was turnovers that decided it but a great game as most recent superbowls have been....


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 08, 2011, 03:23:09 PM
Do you know for this diary to work the fenland punterer has to give us more!!!!
Excuses like I am too tired just will not wash!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on February 08, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
do you ever think about ramping something up on here to make a killing?



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 08, 2011, 09:02:08 PM
LOLZ, that would be a classy thing to do!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 11, 2011, 12:14:07 PM
Big feature by Mark Langdon in today's Racing Post on the mighty Posh and their goal frenzies.

Fixed odds firms are starting to take action, although Chandler's 4/7 about over 2.5 goals tomorrow is buying money innit? Sure can get on with them.

We're still gonna be looking at around 6.6 about 'any unquoted' score on Betfair. I've had a cheeky £60 at 6.8 but want to let the liquidity pick up tonight and tomorrow before stepping in too heavily.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on February 11, 2011, 06:54:06 PM
has anyone asked yet who your top five best/worst players in Luton are?

Can you share some interesting information about yourself, such a favourite food, favourite colour, favourite diary thread etc.

tyia.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 11, 2011, 10:25:03 PM
Favourite colour is Sir Donkalot glittery pink obv.

Favourite food? Kebabs and curry, same as Celtic's. Favourite diary? Celtic's. Yikes! And yours Clawbird obv. Coz you put QOTSA in your favourite songs.

Top five at Luton? GG.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 12, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
OMG, amazing stuff going on at Newbury.

Horses just entered the paddock for the first race. A couple of them were said to have 'wobbled' and two have just keeled over and died. WTF!

Something weird is going on.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on February 12, 2011, 01:29:59 PM
OMG, amazing stuff going on at Newbury.

Horses just entered the paddock for the first race. A couple of them were said to have 'wobbled' and two have just keeled over and died. WTF!

Something weird is going on.

Wow. Suspicions?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Pelham Boy on February 12, 2011, 01:32:25 PM
On twitter they're saying some sort of underground electric current.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2011, 01:39:03 PM
OMG, amazing stuff going on at Newbury.

Horses just entered the paddock for the first race. A couple of them were said to have 'wobbled' and two have just keeled over and died. WTF!

Something weird is going on.

How intriguing - any further news?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 12, 2011, 01:43:11 PM
Sounds like electricity is the most likely problem. Lads leading the two collapsed horses said they got some sort of shock from touching them.

Desperate stuff. Cannot BELIEVE they are still running the first race. All those horses walked round the paddock and they still want them to run after a problem that's yet to be solved? Hope they all come back. Terrible decision.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on February 12, 2011, 01:45:01 PM
OMG, amazing stuff going on at Newbury.

Horses just entered the paddock for the first race. A couple of them were said to have 'wobbled' and two have just keeled over and died. WTF!

Something weird is going on.

How intriguing - any further news?

RP reports states that a live cable has been unearthed. Paddock is not to be used for the remainder of the day and they'll use the pre-parade ring instead.

A lot of people calling for everything to be called off on the RP website (but then again there ussually are when something like this happens) I don't know what the H&S iimplications are of something like this but hope they get this sorted and thoughts go out to connections of the two horses (who will no doubt be putting in a claim and the H&S people will no doubt be shitting themselves ATM)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 12, 2011, 02:10:58 PM
Racing abandoned at Newbury. Common sense prevails imo. Still amazed they ran the first.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on February 12, 2011, 02:25:26 PM
Reports that some of the runners in the first came back with burns in their mouth (where the bit sits)?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 12, 2011, 02:38:30 PM
According to Francome, it takes about a sixth the amount of leccy to kill a human to kill a horse. Desperate.

Felt for Graham Thorner losing Marching Song. And Clerk of the course looked gutted.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 14, 2011, 11:46:27 PM
Time for a quick tournament report. For therapeutic reasons. To try and get myself off tilt.

The difference in standard between the Luton £50er FO on Monday and the £60er double chance on Thursday has become apparent the last couple of weeks. At least on my tables.

Tonight I had Luton Rover and Perfectpercy on my table. Someone to chunter away to at least. Although the former is unpredictable and Percy Conway was raising every hand the first two levels. Directly to my right. Marv.

To my left was a nervous newbie and to his left were three old nits. All were taking it in turns folding and calling out of turn. Don't think a single hand went by without some feck up or other.

Anyways, only had 6000 at the first break and was down to 5000 when the following hand took place at 100-200.

I have JJ in early posi and make it 575. Nervous newbie has gone by now, so it's straight into nit territory.

Old nit 1 thinks briefly and then throws out 200. As soon as he's done this I knock over my four chips to show it was a raise to 575.

Old nit 2 is oblivious to all this and announces raise. FFS! The dealer intervenes.

Nit 1 decides to fold. Nit 2 throws out 1050. I ask the dealer if there's any ruling here on whether he has to min raise. Which obv isn't 1050. Dealer says it'll be a min raise. Can't be arsed to get a ruling. Assume he can raise whatever he wants. But he'd only min raise anyway. It's the old nit way.

So it's folded back to me. I know it's an all in pre spot. But decide not to. The old nit's pokering handbook clearly states that, in such a spot, the old nit is to...

A) Shrug his shoulders and say "Oh well, came here to gamble..." and throw his remaining 4000 chips in.
B) Sigh and say "Oh well. I know I'm behind but too much out there now..." and throw his remaining chips in.

Besides, when these old boys find a hand they're happy to raise with, you know the rest are following, whether it's KQ, AJ, whatever.

So I decide to outplay the flotsam down the streets. And just call to see what the flop does.

It comes 33Q. Sigh. I check. He checks. Ooh good, must be in front here.

Turn is another 3. I chuck out 1100. He insta calls.

River is an ace. Sigh. I check. He bets 1200. I fold. He shows AJ. WP.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on February 14, 2011, 11:50:54 PM
Time for a quick tournament report. For therapeutic reasons. To try and get myself off tilt.

The difference in standard between the Luton £50er FO on Monday and the £60er double chance on Thursday has become apparent the last couple of weeks. At least on my tables.

Tonight I had Luton Rover and Perfectpercy on my table. Someone to chunter away to at least. Although the former is unpredictable and Percy Conway was raising every hand the first two levels. Directly to my right. Marv.

To my left was a nervous newbie and to his left were three old nits. All were taking it in turns folding and calling out of turn. Don't think a single hand went by without some feck up or other.

Anyways, only had 6000 at the first break and was down to 5000 when the following hand took place at 100-200.

I have JJ in early posi and make it 575. Nervous newbie has gone by now, so it's straight into nit territory.

Old nit 1 thinks briefly and then throws out 200. As soon as he's done this I knock over my four chips to show it was a raise to 575.

Old nit 2 is oblivious to all this and announces raise. FFS! The dealer intervenes.

Nit 1 decides to fold. Nit 2 throws out 1050. I ask the dealer if there's any ruling here on whether he has to min raise. Which obv isn't 1050. Dealer says it'll be a min raise. Can't be arsed to get a ruling. Assume he can raise whatever he wants. But he'd only min raise anyway. It's the old nit way.

So it's folded back to me. I know it's an all in pre spot. But decide not to. The old nit's pokering handbook clearly states that, in such a spot, the old nit is to...

A) Shrug his shoulders and say "Oh well, came here to gamble..." and throw his remaining 4000 chips in.
B) Sigh and say "Oh well. I know I'm behind but too much out there now..." and throw his remaining chips in.

Besides, when these old boys find a hand they're happy to raise with, you know the rest are following, whether it's KQ, AJ, whatever.

So I decide to outplay the flotsam down the streets. And just call to see what the flop does.

It comes 33Q. Sigh. I check. He checks. Ooh good, must be in front here.

Turn is another 3. I chuck out 1100. He insta calls.

River is an ace. Sigh. I check. He bets 1200. I fold. He shows AJ. WP.

Shove pre, other than that you played it perfectly. wp.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 14, 2011, 11:52:28 PM
That's it for me for Mondays in Luton for the time being. £50 freezeouts attract a lot of wankers.

Next month is going to be taken up by some bigger tourneys anyway. First proper poker for a while. English deepstack thing and then the GUKPT at the Vic. Then we're into April, when evening racing starts, and Luton Mondays will be off the agenda anyway.

Maybe the odd trip if loads of blondeys are going but arse biscuits to it otherwise.

^^^ Sure was after hand analysis from inferior pokerers ^^^


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on February 14, 2011, 11:53:56 PM
That's it for me for Mondays in Luton for the time being. £50 freezeouts attract a lot of wankers.

Next month is going to be taken up by some bigger tourneys anyway. First proper poker for a while. English deepstack thing and then the GUKPT at the Vic. Then we're into April, when evening racing starts, and Luton Mondays will be off the agenda anyway.

Maybe the odd trip if loads of blondeys are going but arse biscuits to it otherwise.

^^^ Sure was after hand analysis from inferior pokerers ^^^

Have you bought in yet for the deepstack thing?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 14, 2011, 11:54:33 PM
Not gonna bother with backing a goal glut in the Yeovil v Posh match tomorrow night. Not feeling it this time.

If I'm wrong, meh, but happy to sit it out before having a good look at the home game with the Trannies on Saturday.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 14, 2011, 11:56:03 PM
Yep, bought in last Monday. I was number one on the Luton system and they had to set the tournament up before my very eyes.

According to Nina, folk are buying in online, so God knows how many are actually in already.

If more than 200 show up, Kalam will probably just close the casino again.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on February 14, 2011, 11:59:11 PM
Yep, bought in last Monday. I was number one on the Luton system and they had to set the tournament up.

But, according to Nina, folk are buying in online, so God knows how many are actually in already.

If more than 200 show up, Kalam will probably just close the casino again.

Someone mentioned last night that there were 200 in already. Can't see it myself.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 15, 2011, 12:00:50 AM
Someone must know innit? Sure not expecting to turn up early next month and find half of Belgium sat in the car park.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on February 15, 2011, 05:06:47 PM
Someone must know innit? Sure not expecting to turn up early next month and find half of Belgium sat in the car park.

If they do it will be one of the first things they invaded


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 15, 2011, 05:09:28 PM
Someone must know innit? Sure not expecting to turn up early next month and find half of Belgium sat in the car park.


Please see the Luton thread for current indicators from the organisers

Do not wear your green hoopy number, mouth will tear you to pieces!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 15, 2011, 07:27:04 PM
Not gonna bother with backing a goal glut in the Yeovil v Posh match tomorrow night. Not feeling it this time.

If I'm wrong, meh, but happy to sit it out before having a good look at the home game with the Trannies on Saturday.

I'm on anwyay, i'm feeling it!

0-0 here we go! Just feel 7.4 is value and dabbled on the 3+ goals market@5-2 in the second half.

Going against the chomps is dangerous, but bragging rights await!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 15, 2011, 10:22:10 PM
Almost looked like our first 0-0 ever but we've sussed it now, keep it tight for 85mins, then smash in two at the end. We have the best defence outside the Premiership imo.

7.4 was a fair price. Undecided about the weekend also. Trannies are a team on the up at the moment. Doubt I'll be playing this one in a major way. Patience ftw.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 15, 2011, 10:37:09 PM
Almost looked like our first 0-0 ever but we've sussed it now, keep it tight for 85mins, then smash in two at the end. We have the best defence outside the Premiership imo.

7.4 was a fair price. Undecided about the weekend also. Trannies are a team on the up at the moment. Doubt I'll be playing this one in a major way. Patience ftw.

:( Enjoy those bragging rights.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 17, 2011, 01:20:24 PM
Bump. Get that sir nod tip in here imo.

Oh and more entries or this blog will become like my old one...that's defunct-not a pile of ol'....

:)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 17, 2011, 01:41:02 PM
Nah, Sir Nod is just an angle, not a major fancy innit. Would never go nuts over that filthy all-weather stuff.

Things will pick up big styley next month.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 17, 2011, 02:08:34 PM
Nah, Sir Nod is just an angle, not a major fancy innit. Would never go nuts over that filthy all-weather stuff.

Things will pick up big styley next month.

ive had a pony on 4 the bok n ways m8


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 19, 2011, 10:25:33 AM
Will leave it alone again today. Tranmere are improving and weather doesn't make it feel like a goals galore kind of day.

Also, Zakuani is back in defence and get a feeling Grant Basey might start at left back. He can't be any worse than what we've had there.

Yup, time to pull stumps. For the time being at least.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Xpressman on February 19, 2011, 11:45:58 AM
Hi there all you sport betting enthusiasts.

Bumped into Chompy last week, and he said that I can give some lower league tips.

Well here goes.

Cheltenham should have too much for the very depressed and lonely Barnet who are heading for a spell of non league football.

Wycombe Wanderers where I will be today, should get back to winning ways after two away defeats with a home win against Accrington Stanley.

Chesterfield should be a good away day result against an improving Lincoln City, despite the fact Chesterfield have been a bad run as I believe they will get back to winning ways today.

A small bit of information on Brechin City match away to East Fife -

East fife have an injury crisis and will be bringing in some youth team players against Brechin who are a strong side at this level 2nd in the league. Brechin won the corresponding fixture 3-1 in October whilst East fife are second bottom and struggling badly.

A lucky 15 on these four matches should produce a profit.

Good luck to you in punterland.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 19, 2011, 11:47:46 AM
cheers Ian that looks like a good one

Brechin, East Fife indeed!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on February 19, 2011, 11:57:53 AM
Thanks for the Brechin E Fife one..will have some on that.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 19, 2011, 02:36:27 PM
did you see that Iconoclast at Ascot? Horrible blunder first time round, way out the back....laid IR for £14 at 439 and stormed through past a french dodgepot to win on the line


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on February 19, 2011, 04:50:14 PM
Thanks for the Brechin E Fife one..will have some on that.

I jinxed it


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 19, 2011, 05:02:40 PM
Iconoclast done at 900 for pennies. Can never feel any sympathy for these guys. Quite the opposite in fact.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 19, 2011, 10:31:19 PM
I think it might be easier to wind up China Mug than tip teams from the lower dividions......
C'mon you foxes, automatic promotion might be a possibility they are in tremendous form


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 20, 2011, 11:07:07 AM
Got to thinking about next season's footie bets yesterday for whatever reason.

Reckon Ipswich are gonna be the sexy team for the Championship on the 'much better second half of season once Keane left' line of thinking.

Can see Crawley starting around 3-1 for League Two if they go up as champs from the Conf.

If anyone wants to lay me 20-1 Lee Tomlin to be top League One scorer now, I'd take it. Even though the mighty Posh could easily go up. Bet would then be a loser obv.

Anyways, I've never been a fan of the H-T/FT home/away or away.home bet. It's so tough to get up. However...

I've done a bit of research and, in 16 home games this season, the Pish have turned round a H-T deficit four times:

Huddersfield 1-2 @ H-T, 4-2 @ FT
Oldham 1-2 @ H-T, 5-2 @ FT
Sheff WEd 2-3 @ H-T, 5-3 @ FT
Tranmere 0-1 @ H-T, 2-1 @ FT

We also turned round a H-T deficit against Cardiff in the Carling Cup.

There's no fluke about this. We are a second-half team with no give-up in us. Loads of times games have taken the same pattern. We start slowly, the defence concedes one or two sloppy early goals. Then we face our own fans second half and start scoring for fun.

I'm done with the goalfest bet for the time being as the defence has improved, espech as the weekend when Zakuani returned and Grant Basey started at left-back.

But against Colchester on Tuesday I'm gonna have a crack at Colchester H-T - Posh FT. There's only a few bookies got prices up at the moment and one of them, Baldfred, is going 25-1. That should be the general price. Five times in around 20 home games in all comps this season would suggest that's value.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 20, 2011, 11:11:01 AM
If Leicester don't go up (have a chance but play offs a lottery) will be short priced favourites to do it next year...the money gravy train looks solid

If Wickham goes, which must be likely, I am not sure there is that much class elsewhere in the squad. Would like a look at what financial backing Jewell would get. Suffolk Punch on here is your man for info


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 21, 2011, 07:10:56 AM
When Leicester go up  (have a chance but play offs a lottery and now that they know Snatty has his money on them they have promised to try their hardest will be short priced favourites to come straight back down next year...the money gravy train looks solid but that is the way of the premiership unfortunately

If Wickham goes, which must be likely, I am not sure there is that much class elsewhere in the squad. Would like a look at what financial backing Jewell would get. Suffolk Punch on here is your man for info

FYP


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 21, 2011, 09:25:01 AM
25/1 with Stan James, Baldfred and the Nanny. Happy with that.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 21, 2011, 10:11:18 AM
Fancy a small bet that Tomlin doesnt get over 6.5 goals before the end of season?  Inc Play-offs/injuries


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 21, 2011, 12:03:17 PM
Hmm, that's about the right line I think. We have 16 games left, seven home, nine away. Not really my sort of bet, so I'll pass. Kid is quality though.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: action man on February 21, 2011, 12:21:14 PM
keep drifting burnley plz, west ham have enough on there plate and burnley can treat this as a day out, nothing to worry about in the league, and i think they could cause an upset, will need the price to get to at least 9/2 before, will be laying west ham if it reaches 1.75 ish


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 22, 2011, 10:57:20 AM
A huge amount of early interest last night in Fastinthestraight in the last at Southwell this afternoon.

I did the race for the Racing Post so had a look through all the Southwell markets last night to see what was going on on Betty. Someone kept asking to back this thing at around 2.4. For decent money too.

I put him in at 4-1. He's never run on fibresand and, however much they reckon he's got in hand, there's no way he's starting shorter than 2-1. Expect him to start around 3-1.

There was a time I'd have sat there last night drip feeding £50 a time to lay at 2.5 but can't be arsed with that now.

Someone is obviously very keen on him anyway. If he handles fibresand he should be too good.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 22, 2011, 11:27:06 AM
Woohoo! Just opened an account with Baldfred. Haven't opened a phone account in ages.

They're doing an offer at the moment where they'll give you a free bet to match your first one, up to £50.

So I've had an interest £50 H-T/F-T on Colch/Posh at 25-1.

They've also made a rick in putting Mendez-Laing in at 25-1 to be first scorer. Each-way odds of 1/3 first four goals are pleasing enough. Will wait until the team news comes in and, if he's playing, will have a few quid.

Problem is that, if he doesn't start, there's a very strong chance he'll come on as a sub at some point. Even if he only plays the last ten seconds, he'd then be counted as a runner.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 22, 2011, 11:30:41 AM
Hadn't even thought to check whether Betfair's Eurovision market was up until last night. It's there all right, and £18k has been matched already, mostly on early favourites Germany and Norway.

God knows how. Most songs haven't been picked yet. Have just emailed my old mate Johnny Chan of Ledbury to see if he has the dates of when all countries select their song.

Bring on the third week in March imo! Cheltenham in the afternoon, Eurovision entries on youtube in the mornings and evening. Best week of the year by a mile.

(Not sad at all)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 22, 2011, 11:48:48 AM
Exactly how are you defining sad


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on February 22, 2011, 12:00:55 PM
Don't they only count as a runner if they come on and the game is still 0-0? Not likely for a Posh game is it?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 22, 2011, 12:01:46 PM
Don't they only count as a runner if they come on and the game is still 0-0? Not likely for a Posh game is it?

For a win bet, not for a e/w, I think.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on February 22, 2011, 12:07:46 PM
Don't they only count as a runner if they come on and the game is still 0-0? Not likely for a Posh game is it?

For a win bet, not for a e/w, I think.
Ah ok TY


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on February 22, 2011, 12:28:04 PM
Exactly how are you defining sad

Being called Leslie.....


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 22, 2011, 12:54:09 PM
LOLZ, you are so predictable Donks. Leslie is a fine, traditional English name. A long-established family name.

Better than having a name that makes me sound like an extra on Neighbours imo...

Regards,

Graham Leslie Wheldon


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on February 22, 2011, 12:58:09 PM
LOLZ, you are so predictable Donks. Leslie is a fine, traditional English name. A long-established family name.

Better than having a name that makes me sound like an extra on Neighbours imo...

Regards,

Graham Leslie Wheldon

LOLZ  my day has been made


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 22, 2011, 04:59:14 PM
Fastinthestraight, 5.10 Southwell

Now out to around 4/1 on Betfair. Amazing given 'they' wanted to back it at less than 6/4 last night.

One thing for certain is he's a trier and expected. If, and it's the key point, he handles the surface.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on February 22, 2011, 05:06:09 PM
Nibbled at this


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on February 22, 2011, 05:06:50 PM
Got 5.6 but it's drifted even more.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Acidmouse on February 22, 2011, 05:10:36 PM
6's on betdaq cudnt resist


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 22, 2011, 05:14:28 PM
Shows what a different game Fibresand is. Horrible AW muck. That'll win again back on Polytrack imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 26, 2011, 12:21:06 PM
Oscars markets have been pretty stagnant this year and I haven't played at all yet.

Can't resist a few quid on Annette Bening at 8/1 to be best actress. Natalie Portman is 1/8 but whatever. Trusting my opinion on this one. Black Swan was just meh. Low risk.

Apparently Melissa Leo has been placing ads in LA publications trying to pick up more votes for best supporting actress. That sure seems shrewd. Bad favourite imo, esp with another actress from the same film up for the same award.

Hailee Steinfeld was awesome in True Grit and is a good bet at 3/1.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Acidmouse on February 26, 2011, 01:49:11 PM

Hailee Steinfeld was awesome in True Grit and is a good bet at 3/1.

i agree, main character in the film but they put her for supporting actress cat. better chance of winning


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 26, 2011, 02:13:17 PM

Hailee Steinfeld was awesome in True Grit and is a good bet at 3/1.

i agree, main character in the film but they put her for supporting actress cat. better chance of winning

Was thinking about this down the gym. How did she wind up in the supporting actress category when she was the main character in the film? First one on screen and hardly ever off it.

Ended up in the right category for punting purposes anyway. Guess she'd have no chance again Princess Amidala in the other one.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 26, 2011, 02:18:40 PM
Just been planning some March poker. Really fancy Biloxi late in the month. Pizzled and Holdorfold will be out there. If I hit my monthly betfair target by the 20th or so I'll probably go for a week.

See the GUKPT at The Vic clashes with Cheltenham this year. Don't remember that happening in the past. That sure will help numbers. Not gonna play the main, just a couple of side events probably.

Is the GUKPT pretty much finished and on a downward spiral these days? As a semi-outsider looking in, it seems that way. Ever since they lost the CH4 coverage innit?

Strikes me I've just sat through a three-week long pokerstars advert on CH4 with that UKIPT CoC thing. Fair play to them.

Nick Wealthall really is fantastic though. Totally the other side of the coin to Colin Murray, who tilts the crap out of me. Hopefully we won't hear Mr Murray doing poker any more now he's part of the Match Of The Day gig. That sure sucks.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 26, 2011, 04:30:53 PM
Yikes! Another 'other score' result for the mighty Posh. Four goals in 20mins. Standard. Amazing team is this.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2011, 04:41:44 PM

Commrents on today's Eider, Chomps - should they have cancelled?

Looked pretty grim stuff. How many got home in one piece - 3?

I'd not fancy backing anything that run in that for the rest of the season, it must do a horse in.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 26, 2011, 05:07:20 PM
Two got round in the Eider, both legless. Even Flintoff, who stays 12 miles, couldn't get round. Yup, should definitely have been abandoned imo, it's borderline cruel. More of the same at Towcester tomorrow.

Tyrone House might have just farked up his career. He's a keen sort at the best of times and that slog up the straight before refusing at the last sure will have done him good.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on February 26, 2011, 05:17:59 PM
I was really surprised that Richie McGrath continued on Morgan Be after pulling him up first. Reckon he should get a ban for that IMO.

All that for a £2700 third prize FFS.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on February 27, 2011, 04:19:01 PM
Chompy, do you think change of tactics should be declared in Brittain and Ireland in the same way that it is in other places? (I believe it is in Hong Kong)

Excellent example of it again today at Leopardstown where Osirixamix was the even money favourite and all his improvement had come under a different jockey and front running tactics.
This jockey decided to settle the horse in second rather, after not paying attention at the start, that going past the horse that made the running.

Obviously the favourite did nothing anymore (and he had shown in the past that he wouldn't do a thing when there was another runner in front of him) and it just made me think that a while ago this discussion was going on for a brief moment.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 27, 2011, 11:35:00 PM
Feeling happy about the Hailee punt. She's now around 5/2 on Betty. Late market moves on the Oscars are usually a good indicator. Gogogogo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 27, 2011, 11:44:44 PM
Chompy, do you think change of tactics should be declared in Brittain and Ireland in the same way that it is in other places? (I believe it is in Hong Kong)

Excellent example of it again today at Leopardstown where Osirixamix was the even money favourite and all his improvement had come under a different jockey and front running tactics.
This jockey decided to settle the horse in second rather, after not paying attention at the start, that going past the horse that made the running.

Obviously the favourite did nothing anymore (and he had shown in the past that he wouldn't do a thing when there was another runner in front of him) and it just made me think that a while ago this discussion was going on for a brief moment.

Honestly don't think it's practical over here Boldie. Too many variables, too many trainers and too many jockeys.
Trainer's instructions, or at least what we're told, consist of 'If there's no pace early have him up there. Lead if you have to. But if he misses the kick drop him in. And weave through horses up the straight. Or come round them off the turn. Meh, I'll leave it to you Kieren.'

Wish I'd seen that Osiramix requirement before the race though. As soon as this Spotlighting stops next weekend I'm going to start putting in more research. Missing too many Stefanki and Najca De Thaix types at the moment.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Snatiramas on February 28, 2011, 09:07:20 AM
I have just taken the rather conservative step of backing no Grand Slam winner at 11/8.......mind you I do have England at 11/2.

My Newcastle bet has gone down the swanny and as I have now met some super nice geordies I have decided my 30 year hatred needs to be put to bed. My Liverpool bet for relegation at 80 to 1 is also dead.

The big money now revolves around the foxes and the tigers......


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2011, 11:22:31 AM
Sigh, gg Hailee.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on February 28, 2011, 11:25:28 AM
I have just taken the rather conservative step of backing no Grand Slam winner at 11/8.......mind you I do have England at 11/2.

My Newcastle bet has gone down the swanny and as I have now met some super nice geordies I have decided my 30 year hatred needs to be put to bed. My Liverpool bet for relegation at 80 to 1 is also dead.

The big money now revolves around the foxes and the tigers......

think 11/8 is a nice hedge as I see Ireland/England in Dublin as very lose-able. Probably an Even money game. Also don't think, even in a poor year, we are good enough to win a grand slam


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2011, 11:45:42 AM
Learn how to become a successful gambler or trader?

http://centaurcollege.com/

LOLZ.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on February 28, 2011, 11:49:37 AM
Learn how to become a successful gambler or trader?

http://centaurcollege.com/

LOLZ.

Long list of experts;

http://centaurcollege.com/staff.html


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2011, 11:57:24 AM
OMG! Tony Stafford is going to teach people how to become successful pro punterers? Just roffle.

Had dinner with him at Lingfield maybe seven or eight years ago when the Raceform Update was about to be relaunched. Some great stories. The Peter Ustinov of racing but never thought I'd see him as a pro gambling lecturer.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2011, 12:37:36 PM
Posh home v Exeter this weekend.

We are on the up and there's competition for places in midfield and up front at the moment. Exeter are an ordinary side who are safe in mid-table. They won't be going up or down. Their away record is pretty meh.

Exeter have a game tomorrow. A good scrap against a physical team in Tranmere. That should take a bit out of them.

If the price is 5 or bigger about any other score on Saturday, this will be a max bet.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 28, 2011, 01:52:13 PM
Chompy, do you know Neil Morrice?

Any opinion?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2011, 01:55:25 PM
Nope, don't think we've ever met. You coming to Luton for the £500 thingy Camel?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 28, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
Nope, don't think we've ever met. You coming to Luton for the £500 thingy Camel?

Going to give it a swerve and save my passouts for GUKPT at the Vic and a day at Cheltenham.

Deepstack poker isn't really my thing anyways, I prefer crapshoots.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 28, 2011, 02:03:06 PM
Hiya chomps.

First game in ages i didn't go large on overs in the posh game, cple of prev results cost me. Sick result at weekend for your boys i agree, but i'd hate to go bk in at weekend after missing out on the last game, so if it ant a goalfest im gonna blame yr advice itt and force u to pay up, ok? :)

Oh and hope to see u in luton for the 500, playing day1b myself, so shld see u railing myself and others for day 2 nope? lol

Believe yr playing day1a? Not seen u in ages mate.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
Yup, been a while, last time was at The International innit.

If any one of the regs makes the final on Sunday I'll be there to rail for sure. Got this sinking feeling that Sir Donksalot will go deep in this. Chant for the final will be "Donks, Donks, Donks" like that "Begs, Begs, Begs" chant that I had to sit through for a few hours two Novembers ago.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on February 28, 2011, 03:19:54 PM
Yup, been a while, last time was at The International innit.

If any one of the regs makes the final on Sunday I'll be there to rail for sure. Got this sinking feeling that Sir Donksalot will go deep in this. Chant for the final will be "Donks, Donks, Donks" like that "Begs, Begs, Begs" chant that I had to sit through for a few hours two Novembers ago.

Oh yes that was when yr buddy ade turned up. Played him again a few months ago, dunno if ive told u the story, dont see how as havent seen u.

Anyway ade is on typical loud form roaring at every1 at the table and telling every1 that im a maniac as hes played me b4 and knows so.

Im like yeah ade u damn rock and laugh it off.

Anyway his speech not working on me he picks on this poor old fella. Starts telling him that hes too miserable and shld interact more with him.

Old fella after supposedly playing like a maniac and 'bluffing' ade off on the river replies, 'well maybe i am miserable...i only recently lost my wife to illness'

Ade shut up ansd instantly apologised.

I busted shortly after hse over hse, but the table seemed very quiet!



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: lutonrover on February 28, 2011, 05:32:20 PM
Chomps   laughing my head off at Centaur ...what a load of tosh ,,,as for Tony Stafford ...forget it


I reckon the whole game is about to change , as racing becomes more profoundly broke and bent ...it will be in running or nowt , talk about a license to nick a few bob


Roll on March 21


ps enjoy chelters partic if its heavy ,,,,lol  talk about turn off the telly


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2011, 09:39:07 PM
Classic moment on ATR. Honest Barney tells it like it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE&NR=1


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on February 28, 2011, 10:14:45 PM
Classic moment on ATR. Honest Barney tells it like it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE&NR=1

Curley "I have contributed to racing for over 25 years"

What a load of old bollox. He is the biggest taker in the game.

Can't argue with anything else he said though.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Jon MW on February 28, 2011, 10:36:39 PM
10 2 3 45 32

What a redic home record.  77 goals in 15 games.  Surely the best value season ticket in the world.

I meant to ask - have you seen the Chairman's season ticket (http://www.eprogramme.com/A1r3te/PUFC1112-SeasonTickt/resources/index.htm?referrerUrl=)  for next year?

Best value £15k you can spend surely? ;D


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2011, 10:55:28 PM
Hmm, interesting. Don't know though, think if I got to meet Boydy face to face I'd probably just pass out.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on March 01, 2011, 07:22:52 AM
Bless JF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lZ7-weBXTs&feature=related


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: action man on March 01, 2011, 09:33:59 AM
pmsl at "you couldnt have 2 bananas to one banana at the bookies"


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 01, 2011, 11:11:32 PM
Probably see my neighbour once every two months at most but got collared on the way back from posting a bill earlier.

She was fumming about a plan to open a cinema in the park/field next to the end of our road. St Neots has been planning a cinema since 1877 but never gone through with it. It's likely to be a Cineworld by the looks of things. I sort of half went along with her just to pacify her but sure would be gutted if they built it. "Think about the litter!" Yeah, yeah, whatever.

Have to drive to Huntingdon or Bedford at the moment. Both are around ten miles. If this place opens, could walk it in 2mins max. Call it 5mins, allowing for time to buy Heston's popcorn icecream and smoked apple candy floss. Wiiiiiii.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 01, 2011, 11:15:06 PM
GG Exeter. Behind early at home tonight v Tranmere and then a good old slog to get the equaliser in front of the newly expectant fans. That should have emptied them a bit in time for the weekend.

Would settle for 7/2 about the mighty Posh putting four past them on Saturday. We are a relative powerhouse in this league. Took their keeper on loan for the season January. Presumably as a long-term replacement for Joe Lewis. He was one of their main men before jumping ship. That has to effect them mentally imo.

At the moment there's £45 available at 6.0 (5/1). Not gonna touch it until Friday evening to try and keep the layers sticking their cash up at that sort of price and a bit bigger.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 01, 2011, 11:40:21 PM
GG Exeter. Behind early at home tonight v Tranmere and then a good old slog to get the equaliser in front of the newly expectant fans. That should have emptied them a bit in time for the weekend.

Would settle for 7/2 about the mighty Posh putting four past them on Saturday. We are a relative powerhouse in this league. Took their keeper on loan for the season January. Presumably as a long-term replacement for Joe Lewis. He was one of their main men before jumping ship. That has to effect them mentally imo.

At the moment there's £45 available at 6.0 (5/1). Not gonna touch it until Friday evening to try and keep the layers sticking their cash up at that sort of price and a bit bigger.

How about playing on the spreads? If they are a general 8/13 or 4/7 you should be able to buy at less than 1.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 01, 2011, 11:42:47 PM
Wouldn't put you off at all, can't see anything bar an easy home win on Saturday. But I'm sticking with the goalfest bet. In this one for the long run. Playing out of profit, so can afford to take a hit.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on March 02, 2011, 11:29:27 PM
Probably see my neighbour once every two months at most but got collared on the way back from posting a bill earlier.

She was fumming about a plan to open a cinema in the park/field next to the end of our road. St Neots has been planning a cinema since 1877 but never gone through with it. It's likely to be a Cineworld by the looks of things. I sort of half went along with her just to pacify her but sure would be gutted if they built it. "Think about the litter!" Yeah, yeah, whatever.

Have to drive to Huntingdon or Bedford at the moment. Both are around ten miles. If this place opens, could walk it in 2mins max. Call it 5mins, allowing for time to buy Heston's popcorn icecream and smoked apple candy floss. Wiiiiiii.

the litter wouldnt be a problem chomps cos your other neighbour could put it in your wheelie bin - simples


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 03, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
Was looking forward to the European Deepstack at Luton but got there and decided against it. Only 60-odd regsitered. Was expecting 150+.

Had been planning on being in every hand for the first few levels versus random Skandies but the place was full of regs. Would only have donked off, so what's the point?

Thought to myself...£550 on this and sit there grinding it out for a 100k stack to go back with on Saturday, when I'd have to miss the Posh match, or £550 on Posh scoring 4 or more past Exeter at 5/1. That was the clincher.

Got 10% of Celtic though, which will give me a bit of interest for half an hour or so.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 03, 2011, 03:13:39 PM
Was looking forward to the European Deepstack at Luton but got there and decided against it. Only 60-odd regsitered. Was expecting 150+.

Had been planning on being in every hand for the first few levels versus random Skandies but the place was full of regs. Would only have donked off, so what's the point?

Thought to myself...£550 on this and sit there grinding it out for a 100k stack to go back with on Saturday, when I'd have to miss the Posh match, or £550 on Posh scoring 4 or more past Exeter at 5/1. That was the clincher.

Got 10% of Celtic though, which will give me a bit of interest for half an hour or so.

No disrespect to those who enjoy this sort of thing, but the idea of playing a monkey comp, with an hour clock and 500 bb's to start would be my candidate for poker's Room 101.

I think you made a wise decision.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on March 03, 2011, 06:27:30 PM
Was looking forward to the European Deepstack at Luton but got there and decided against it. Only 60-odd regsitered. Was expecting 150+.

Had been planning on being in every hand for the first few levels versus random Skandies but the place was full of regs. Would only have donked off, so what's the point?

Thought to myself...£550 on this and sit there grinding it out for a 100k stack to go back with on Saturday, when I'd have to miss the Posh match, or £550 on Posh scoring 4 or more past Exeter at 5/1. That was the clincher.

Got 10% of Celtic though, which will give me a bit of interest for half an hour or so.

No disrespect to those who enjoy this sort of thing, but the idea of playing a monkey comp, with an hour clock and 500 bb's to start would be my candidate for poker's Room 101.

I think you made a wise decision.

Yep


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 04, 2011, 12:12:50 PM
Probably see my neighbour once every two months at most but got collared on the way back from posting a bill earlier.

She was fumming about a plan to open a cinema in the park/field next to the end of our road. St Neots has been planning a cinema since 1877 but never gone through with it. It's likely to be a Cineworld by the looks of things. I sort of half went along with her just to pacify her but sure would be gutted if they built it. "Think about the litter!" Yeah, yeah, whatever.

Have to drive to Huntingdon or Bedford at the moment. Both are around ten miles. If this place opens, could walk it in 2mins max. Call it 5mins, allowing for time to buy Heston's popcorn icecream and smoked apple candy floss. Wiiiiiii.

People in St Neots still Post things? Like, in envelopes, with stamps? In pillar-boxes?

I knew it was a bit behind the times out there, but that's shocked me.

You still have Telegram Boys?



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 04, 2011, 04:49:22 PM
Yup, it was a water bill. Switched it to direct debit now though. All very new and swish round these parts.

Just been to the post box again. Posted another cheque. Cheques and post boxes? All so outdated now.

Nobody carries cash any more either. So exactly what is in your manbag? Excellent question emailed in last night I thought. Julian played it with a very straight bat.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 04, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
Yup, it was a water bill. Switched it to direct debit now though. All very new and swish round these parts.

Just been to the post box again. Posted another cheque. Cheques and post boxes? All so outdated now.

Nobody carries cash any more either. So exactly what is in your manbag? Excellent question emailed in last night I thought. Julian played it with a very straight bat.

Cheques? CHEQUES? Good god. It's like a little island of 1950's ville out there.

Excellent question, played with a straight bat? More like a juicy full toss, summarily swished over long-on.

My manbag contains a variety of accouterments, scarves, & a selection of ready-signed photographs for my public.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on March 04, 2011, 07:09:23 PM
Was looking forward to the European Deepstack at Luton but got there and decided against it. Only 60-odd regsitered. Was expecting 150+.

Had been planning on being in every hand for the first few levels versus random Skandies but the place was full of regs. Would only have donked off, so what's the point?

Thought to myself...£550 on this and sit there grinding it out for a 100k stack to go back with on Saturday, when I'd have to miss the Posh match, or £550 on Posh scoring 4 or more past Exeter at 5/1. That was the clincher.

Got 10% of Celtic though, which will give me a bit of interest for half an hour or so.

No disrespect to those who enjoy this sort of thing, but the idea of playing a monkey comp, with an hour clock and 500 bb's to start would be my candidate for poker's Room 101.

I think you made a wise decision.

Hell & Heaven...such a thin line


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 05, 2011, 05:18:18 PM
Aaaaaaargh, I sure am running good


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 05, 2011, 05:22:15 PM
Aaaaaaargh, I sure am running good

I owe you a pint sir.

Bought suprem at 0.9 :)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on March 05, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
Farce?

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/wolverhampton-a-w-six-of-clubs-result-stands-in-chaotic-wolverhampton-contest/825852/top/


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 05, 2011, 09:58:09 PM
Utter farce Boldie. I played that race IR before taking a quick post-afternoon-action power nap. Had a bit on Charlemagne and traded out for a freebie. They all pulled up after random donk waved his flag and blew a whistle, so I wandered off.

Came back and saw the bet had been settled as a zero. "Odd!", I thought. Not voiding that was probably as bad as when they allowed the first race to go at Newbury last month after all the runners had been plugged in to the mains in the paddock.

Just spoken to a mate. The mighty Posh missed a sitter in injury time to make it 4-0. Marv.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 05, 2011, 10:14:11 PM
Two trips to Luton G in three days. Two wasted journeys.

Turned up for the £280+£20 and only 26 were playing. Sigh. Four paid maybe? Advertised as a two-dayer too, so every chance someone will kick up and insist the final table be played tomorrow.

Meh to that. So bought in for the GUKPT £300 at The Vic on Thursday and the £250 short-handed a week on Tuesday, and it was off to the other casino down the road for the £35 self deal.

That sure went well. Lasted two hands and nearly got in a fight. I was in seat 5. In seat 3 was Nick The Judge. We had a quick chat, then it was his turn to deal...

Apparently they won't let just one person deal in these things at the Circus, as it means that table goes quicker than the others. WTF is that all about? I'd offered to deal not long after getting there. Chippy twat in seat 1 told me it's not allowed.

So Nick starts dealing and puts the cards out in a small circle in front of him. Can't reach seat 8 from seat 3 very easily. Seat 1 doesn't look happy. I end up with two cards in the BB while the SB only has one. Oh dear.

Seat 1 lays in to Seat 3. Seats 2, 4, 5 and 8 all LTFAO.

Seat 3 tells seat 1 he has a bad attitude. Seat 1 gets very annoyed.

Redeal...

Still at 25-50 obv. Old nit two to my left makes it 150. Annoyed seat 1 calls. I look at one card, a 7, and call for 100 more.

Flop comes 5 7 8 rainbow. I say "Better look at my other card now". It's an 8. I stick out 300. Old fella makes it 600. Ooh, this is good. Annoyed of Seat 1 then re-plops to 2500. I have a quick think and then lolushove.

Old boy folds. Chippy annoyed twat sits and thinks for ages. No idea what he could have but thought he'd probably fold to pressure before I shoved, so sat there quietly.

Eventually...

"Aah, what the fuck, I fucking call." He turns over 55 for bottom set.

Me: "Nice. Thanks for the slowroll"
Him: "That ain't no fucking slowroll, it's for my tournament."

I stand up and start wandering away, while saying "He was right, you have a really bad attitude"

"Fucking foooooooool" he wittily replies.

I carry on walking, expecting either a cry of "Watch out" or a blow to the back of the head. But nothing. Phew!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on March 05, 2011, 10:20:46 PM
Two trips to Luton G in three days. Two wasted journeys.

Turned up for the £280+£20 and only 26 were playing. Sigh. Four paid maybe? Advertised as a two-dayer too, so every chance someone will kick up and insist the final table be played tomorrow.

Meh to that. So bought in for the GUKPT £300 at The Vic on Thursday and the £250 short-handed a week on Tuesday, and it was off to the other casino down the road for the £35 self deal.

That sure went well. Lasted two hands and nearly got in a fight. I was in seat 5. In seat 3 was Nick The Judge. We had a quick chat, then it was his turn to deal...

Apparently they won't let just one person deal in these things at the Circus, as it means that table goes quicker than the others. WTF is that all about? I'd offered to deal not long after getting there. Chippy twat in seat 1 told me it's not allowed.

So Nick starts dealing and puts the cards out in a small circle in front of him. Can't reach seat 8 from seat 3 very easily. Seat 1 doesn't look happy. I end up with two cards in the BB while the SB only has one. Oh dear.

Seat 1 lays in to Seat 3. Seats 2, 4, 5 and 8 all LTFAO.

Seat 3 tells seat 1 he has a bad attitude. Seat 1 gets very annoyed.

Redeal...

Still at 25-50 obv. Old nit two to my left makes it 150. Annoyed seat 1 calls. I look at one card, a 7, and call for 100 more.

Flop comes 5 7 8 rainbow. I say "Better look at my other card now". It's an 8. I stick out 300. Old fella makes it 600. Ooh, this is good. Annoyed of Seat 1 then re-plops to 2500. I have a quick think and then lolushove.

Old boy folds. Chippy annoyed twat sits and thinks for ages. No idea what he could have but thought he'd probably fold to pressure before I shoved, so sat there quietly.

Eventually...

"Aah, what the fuck, I fucking call." He turns over 55 for bottom set.

Me: "Nice. Thanks for the slowroll"
Him: "That ain't no fucking slowroll, it's for my tournament."

I stand up and start wandering away, while saying "He was right, you have a really bad attitude"

"Fucking foooooooool" he wittily replies.

I carry on walking, expecting either a cry of "Watch out" or a blow to the back of the head. But nothing. Phew!

lololol


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Waz1892 on March 05, 2011, 10:26:04 PM
you've had better days I sense!

wot does LTFAO mean?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 05, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
LTFAO = Laughing Their Fkarking Arses Off

Another of my poker phrases about to sweep the nation, like TID with the MOF and the other one that I invented but can't remember at this juncture.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on March 05, 2011, 10:43:45 PM
LTFAO = Laughing Their Fkarking Arses Off

Another of my poker phrases about to sweep the nation, like TID with the MOF and the other one that I invented but can't remember at this juncture.

I know I'm behind, but I will call?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 05, 2011, 11:50:12 PM
Hello? What 'ave we 'ere then?

http://www.venetian.com/uploadedFiles/The_Venetian/Gaming/PokerRoom/Deep_Stack/DeepStackII_2011_2.pdf


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: AndrewT on March 05, 2011, 11:59:40 PM
They've dropped their buyins - the $225 on Tues and Weds are new, they've killed the weekly $1000 and the main event is now $1500 instead of the $2k or $2.5k it was before.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 06, 2011, 12:04:24 AM
Hello? What 'ave we 'ere then?

http://www.venetian.com/uploadedFiles/The_Venetian/Gaming/PokerRoom/Deep_Stack/DeepStackII_2011_2.pdf


Oooh, so tempting to have a week or 10 days of that.

Any idea when the "Summer" (June/July) Deepstack schedule for Caesars will be announced?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 06, 2011, 12:09:20 AM
Caesar's? Phumph. Don't see the appeal at all. Great when it's busy but it never is these days and it's like a library when it's under half full imo. Got over to The Venetian please.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on March 06, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
Two trips to Luton G in three days. Two wasted journeys.

Turned up for the £280+£20 and only 26 were playing. Sigh. Four paid maybe? Advertised as a two-dayer too, so every chance someone will kick up and insist the final table be played tomorrow.

Meh to that. So bought in for the GUKPT £300 at The Vic on Thursday and the £250 short-handed a week on Tuesday, and it was off to the other casino down the road for the £35 self deal.

That sure went well. Lasted two hands and nearly got in a fight. I was in seat 5. In seat 3 was Nick The Judge. We had a quick chat, then it was his turn to deal...

Apparently they won't let just one person deal in these things at the Circus, as it means that table goes quicker than the others. WTF is that all about? I'd offered to deal not long after getting there. Chippy twat in seat 1 told me it's not allowed.

So Nick starts dealing and puts the cards out in a small circle in front of him. Can't reach seat 8 from seat 3 very easily. Seat 1 doesn't look happy. I end up with two cards in the BB while the SB only has one. Oh dear.

Seat 1 lays in to Seat 3. Seats 2, 4, 5 and 8 all LTFAO.

Seat 3 tells seat 1 he has a bad attitude. Seat 1 gets very annoyed.

Redeal...

Still at 25-50 obv. Old nit two to my left makes it 150. Annoyed seat 1 calls. I look at one card, a 7, and call for 100 more.

Flop comes 5 7 8 rainbow. I say "Better look at my other card now". It's an 8. I stick out 300. Old fella makes it 600. Ooh, this is good. Annoyed of Seat 1 then re-plops to 2500. I have a quick think and then lolushove.

Old boy folds. Chippy annoyed twat sits and thinks for ages. No idea what he could have but thought he'd probably fold to pressure before I shoved, so sat there quietly.

Eventually...

"Aah, what the fuck, I fucking call." He turns over 55 for bottom set.

Me: "Nice. Thanks for the slowroll"
Him: "That ain't no fucking slowroll, it's for my tournament."

I stand up and start wandering away, while saying "He was right, you have a really bad attitude"

"Fucking foooooooool" he wittily replies.

I carry on walking, expecting either a cry of "Watch out" or a blow to the back of the head. But nothing. Phew!

lololol

Lololol  + 1


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Matrix twin on March 06, 2011, 12:49:30 PM
lmao at that  5h 5s


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 06, 2011, 02:03:28 PM
They've dropped their buyins - the $225 on Tues and Weds are new, they've killed the weekly $1000 and the main event is now $1500 instead of the $2k or $2.5k it was before.

Good move imo. There were defo rumours going around last summer that the April deepstack was going to be dropped this year.

Just had a look back at last April. Only one of the $550 events pulled in more than 200 runners but only one of the $330 events failed to pull in over 200 runners. Cheaper buy-ins ftw.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on March 06, 2011, 06:30:06 PM
Where did you get the name Chompy from?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 06, 2011, 06:31:48 PM
Where did you get the name Chompy from?

What took you so long?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on March 06, 2011, 06:52:23 PM
slightly interesting (at least for you and me, maybe not anyone else) table showing league games since last 0-0

68 Charlton
59 Peterborough
46 Dagenham
26 Brentford
26 Carlisle
13 Plymouth
13 Yeovil
11 Colchester
10 Bristol Rovers
8 Exeter
8 Notts County
8 Tranmere
6 Brighton
6 Leyton Orient
5 Huddersfield
3 Hartlepool
3 Southampton
2 Bournemouth
2 MK Dons
2 Oldham
2 Sheff Wed
1 Rochdale
0 Swindon
0 Walsall


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 06, 2011, 11:17:50 PM
Bit surprised Charlton are above us in that league. Not as bad as the mighty Posh at the back and not as good as us up front. Dagenham are just shite, so no surprise they've not had a goalless game for ages.

Something tells me we'll be nicking Romain Vincelot from Dagenham this summer. That old Barry Fry-John Still link-up never goes away and this guy would be ideal for our Premiership push. Yep.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 06, 2011, 11:28:03 PM
Where did you get the name Chompy from?

Very interesting story as it happens. I once went round one of the Luton valet's houses with Tighty and Caroline. It sort of stuck after that night.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on March 06, 2011, 11:28:39 PM
Where did you get the name Chompy from?

Very interesting story as it happens. I once went round one of the Luton valet's houses with Tighty and Caroline. It sort of stuck after that night.

lolz. quoted before deletion.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on March 06, 2011, 11:43:17 PM
I didn't dare order any food today. the combination of Wendy and Jo the valets giving me the staredown put paid to my bravery


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 06, 2011, 11:50:54 PM
I didn't dare order any food today. the combination of Wendy and Jo the valets giving me the staredown put paid to my bravery

Is the lovely Rosie still a valet at Luton?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on March 06, 2011, 11:53:11 PM
I didn't dare order any food today. the combination of Wendy and Jo the valets giving me the staredown put paid to my bravery

Is the lovely Rosie still a valet at Luton?


No, she left iirc in 2008ish, when it moved and became a G

the valets have a tough job, don't get a lot of thanks from the poker players. Then again some need refreshers course in customer relations. Chicken and egg situation!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on March 08, 2011, 01:40:43 PM
Happy pancake day chompy.

Will you be spending the day tossing?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2011, 01:58:21 PM
Check out France's Eurovision entry- class. SkyBet cut to 5/1. http://goo.gl/XQz7H


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 08, 2011, 02:21:05 PM
LOLZ @ that. It's utter shite. Been done at 500 on betty for a few pence and not surprised. Can now be layed at 9.8, which is a joke price. If someone wanted to tie up £100k for a few months, stick up £10k at 11 and let them knock themselves out imo.

Looks like a good old-fashioned tipping line job to me. Massive over-reaction. Expect it to be 50+ on the night. Plus they qualify autmoatically, so don't get the song aired in the semis.

Sky slashed it to 5/1? Someone had £9.43 on it?

About to spend all afternoon going through this year's entries...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on March 08, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
Check out France's Eurovision entry- class. SkyBet cut to 5/1. http://goo.gl/XQz7H

Very meh and won't get the votes.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 08, 2011, 05:39:23 PM
I'll hurriedly take back that comment about France. It's a terrible year unless one of the late entries turns out to be about average and France has a chance.

First impressions are that Estonia is the most likely winner but a long way to go with this yet.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 08, 2011, 07:40:54 PM
Estonia the pick of a poor bunch but not much mileage in 8/1 prices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZX3I27nr0Y


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 11, 2011, 03:29:22 PM

So much to laugh at in this. It's an official Press Release, by the way. "instantly catchy" & pissing in ATM's. "

UK won’t be Blue at Eurovision this year
UK Eurovision odds slashed to 6/1


Punters have been falling over themselves to back the UK to win the 2011 Eurovision Song Contest ahead of the official unveiling of our entry on ‘The Graham Norton Show’ tonight.

Former boy band Blue will represent the UK in Dusseldorf and their incredibly catchy song ‘I Can’ has been an instant hit with Sky Bet customers, who have rushed to back it for the title, forcing their odds to plummet to 6/1 from 14/1. The song was leaked onto the internet and is being hailed a sure-fire success.

The UK is now third favourite for Eurovision glory with Sky Bet behind France (9/2) and Norway (11/2).

Having finished bottom three times in the past eight years, the UK has a very poor recent record in Eurovision but Sky Bet go 16/1 that we finish bottom of the pile again this year and it’s 100/1 that we receive the dreaded ‘nul point’.

Sky Bet’s PR manager Helen Jacob said: “Money has been flooding in for the UK after the song was leaked onto the internet yesterday and the odds are bound to contract again after its official unveiling tonight.

“By the end of the weekend, the UK could be favourites to win!”

The Blue boys were recently given a warning by the BBC after Antony Costa was caught urinating against a cashpoint. Sky Bet go 25/1 that the band are withdrawn as the UK entry and replaced by another act in the May 14 final in Dusseldorf.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on March 11, 2011, 04:06:53 PM
Does Chompy still post on here?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: GreekStein on March 11, 2011, 04:09:58 PM
Does Chompy still post on here?

Surely a defunct diary - look at the views!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on March 11, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Does Chompy still post on here?

who?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 12, 2011, 03:31:38 PM
Proper bit of diaryism coming...

3am bust out of £100er in Luton
11.30am wake up, find out my 10% swap TID
2pm solid start on the gee-gees
2.40pm decide to put the 10% on Posh putting 4+ past Carlisle
2.41pm betfair crashes, same as every other Saturday of late
2.42pm can't get on, blood pressure rises
2.43pm stupidly decide to wait for betfair to come back up rather than putting the bet on with fixed odds firm
3.02pm Posh 1-0 Carlisle
3.24pm Posh 2-0 Carlisle
3.45pm Posh 3-0 Carlisle, still no Betfair


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 12, 2011, 04:34:37 PM
Betfair, the internet's largest betting exchange, is expected to ban the use of automatic trading programs - known as bots - on its website, following a system crash that kept the site offline for two hours on Tuesday afternoon.

The crash has highlighted a practice that has been going on for several months, much to the surprise of the vast majority of Betfair's regular clients, with one punter claiming that his computer program has made him hundreds of thousands of pounds.

A bot is a computer program that can access a website and strike or lay bets, just as any human punter can. Unlike a regular punter, though, it does not need to eat, drink or sleep, and can request a web page several times a second.

About a dozen Betfair clients are thought to have been using bots to scan the site for chances to bet overbroke, or otherwise gain a guaranteed edge on other users. They will now be warned to switch off their bots, or be banned from using Betfair's site.

A Betfair spokesman said yesterday that Tuesday's problems were not caused directly by the use of bots on their site. However, the fact that a number of the programs were attempting to access Betfair dozens of times a second, while technicians were struggling to get it online, meant that the site was unavailable for much longer than would otherwise have been the case.

The program responsible is believed to have been written by a Betfair user who regularly posts messages in the site's users' forum under the name "Gary". Although his claims are difficult to verify, he has stated that his bot has won him hundreds of thousands of pounds in recent months. He is also thought to have passed on his program to several other punters in recent weeks, increasing the strain on Betfair's servers.

There are several ways in which a bot can suck the value from a robust and vibrant market such as Betfair. It is possible, for instance, to write a program that scans active markets looking for one that is momentarily "overbroke", allowing it to back every runner to return a small, but guaranteed, profit. The bot places the required bets automatically and instantly, and moves on to look for its next opportunity.

Others can be programmed to notice obvious mistakes - a punter, say, who has tried to offer a horse at 2.0 in Betfair's digital odds system, and offered 2.2 instead. A bot could also be set up to back and lay consistently around a given price. Backing at 2.6 and then laying at 2.4, over and over again, would soon try the patience of most human punters, but a computer program does not get bored.

"The result tends to be that there are lots and lots of very small bets going through, which are a pain for everybody concerned," Mark Davies, Betfair's spokesman, said yesterday. "And when we have a problem like we did on Tuesday, the program just keeps on trying to trade, asking the database questions which it is not in a position to answer. We're getting in touch with the account holders in question, and we would expect to make a statement on Friday morning."

The bots are not merely a technical problem for Betfair. The site's image, as a place where punter meets punter in a battle of judgment and wits, is among its biggest selling points. A perception that its clients might in fact be taking on a bank of computers, or that it is pointless looking for serious value because a bot will always get there first, would be damaging.

One problem for Betfair, though, is that a well-written bot will appear to be just another client logging on to the site. To be certain that no-one is using a bot, it may be necessary to study access and betting patterns over several days, or even weeks.

"Depending on how well written a bot is, and if it doesn't hit the hell out of the server, it may be almost impossible to block it," said Glyn Wintle, chief technical officer of backandlay.com, an exchange which is due to launch in the next few months.

"Over time, you can be pretty sure when someone's using a bot, but if someone's got a well-written program that means they can't lose, they'll probably think it's stupid not to run it."


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doubleup on March 12, 2011, 06:33:44 PM

Betfair is quite simply a badly run company where failures are always someone elses fault.  They don't need to ban anyone they just need to increase their charges for data requests from their servers.   


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 01:51:23 PM
After Saturday, it's now 3 beers and dinner at Luton's finest eatery I owe you.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 14, 2011, 01:54:56 PM
Sigh, good to know someone is doing all right out of Posh smashing them in.

Hill's go 11/1 that the mighty Posh put 4+ past Sheff Wed tomorrow night. This is a Sheff Wed team in name only. We're quite capable of getting another hatful now they have nothing to play for.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on March 14, 2011, 02:12:50 PM
What price on betfair you think?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 14, 2011, 02:29:43 PM
Sigh once more. Still on tilt.

Saturday I should just have switched off the PC as soon as Betty crashed and gone to London Road. Sitting there for three more hours, playing facebook scrabble, eating revels and drinking Stella, while clicking refresh every five minutes, got more and more frustrating.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on March 14, 2011, 03:08:39 PM
Sigh, good to know someone is doing all right out of Posh smashing them in.

Hill's go 11/1 that the mighty Posh put 4+ past Sheff Wed tomorrow night. This is a Sheff Wed team in name only. We're quite capable of getting another hatful now they have nothing to play for.

SKY BET

Sheff Wed / Posh

To Score 2+ Goals  evens/  11/10
To Score 3+ Goals  10/3 / 4/1
To Score 4+ Goals  11/1/  12/1
To Score 5+ Goals  33/1/  40/1


....and 7/4 on just the win looks good?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 03:29:57 PM
Sigh, good to know someone is doing all right out of Posh smashing them in.

Hill's go 11/1 that the mighty Posh put 4+ past Sheff Wed tomorrow night. This is a Sheff Wed team in name only. We're quite capable of getting another hatful now they have nothing to play for.

SKY BET

Sheff Wed / Posh

To Score 2+ Goals  evens/  11/10
To Score 3+ Goals  10/3 / 4/1
To Score 4+ Goals  11/1/  12/1
To Score 5+ Goals  33/1/  40/1


....and 7/4 on just the win looks good?

oooo that 33/1 looks juicy to me.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 14, 2011, 05:50:26 PM
40-1 even better Camel! Gl getting on though. Hill's will at least take a nifty or so probably.

Don't normally bother with Cheltenham previews but a good one on CH415 at the moment. Matt Williams actually has opinions worth listening to. Says what he thinks.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 05:53:52 PM
40-1 even better Camel! Gl getting on though. Hill's will at least take a nifty or so probably.

Don't normally bother with Cheltenham previews but a good one on CH415 at the moment. Matt Williams actually has opinions worth listening to. Says what he thinks.

Sigh @ skybet offering me 58p at 40/1.

The pm me if you've got a skybet acct is obviously to try and get on this.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 14, 2011, 06:01:03 PM
LOLZ @ Skybet. Rang them two weekends ago. Had already got my main bet on Poshies scoring 4+ against Exeter with Hill's at 5/1. Walked into the shop with a wedge. He rang to check. They took half of what I wanted. Fair play to them.

Nico had spotted Skybet were 14/1 about 5+ goals. Rang to try and get £50 on. Was offered £10.70. I said "OK, sigh, just a tenner then please". He said "Hang on, it's now 12/1". Me trying to put a nifty on and getting refused had MOVED the market!

Kinda reassuring that nothing has changed in fixed odds world. Not just Skybet obv. Those Victor Chandler ads on TV at the moment are awesome. The ones where he says "I'll take that bet" to anything that's requested.

Anyone want to ring and try for £500 on Azerbaijan to win the Eurovision. See what Vic's boys come back with?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 06:08:00 PM
LOLZ @ Skybet. Rang them two weekends ago. Had already got my main bet on Poshies scoring 4+ against Exeter with Hill's at 5/1. Walked into the shop with a wedge. He rang to check. They took half of what I wanted. Fair play to them.

Nico had spotted Skybet were 14/1 about 5+ goals. Rang to try and get £50 on. Was offered £10.70. I said "OK, sigh, just a tenner then please". He said "Hang on, it's now 12/1". Me trying to put a nifty on and getting refused had MOVED the market!

Kinda reassuring that nothing has changed in fixed odds world. Not just Skybet obv. Those Victor Chandler ads on TV at the moment are awesome. The ones where he says "I'll take that bet" to anything that's requested.

Anyone want to ring and try for £500 on Azerbaijan to win the Eurovision. See what Vic's boys come back with?

I was talking to someone in the fixed odds industry over the weekend.

He is convinced there will be no such things as bookmakers and betting shops in 10 years time.

They will all turn into exchanges or simply close down.

On course bookmaking will probably survive, but that's it according to him.

He gave the example of Tesco and Sainsburys Direct.

When the internet was the big new thing, they both resisted offering the service claiming it will kill their core business, but look at them now.. pushing their online business harder than their shops.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 14, 2011, 07:02:15 PM
I reckon there wouldn't be any betting shops left now were it not for fixed odds betting terminals.

The Hill's in town used to be an independent. Till about a year ago. There's also a Ladbrokes and one other in Neots. The one other used to be an independent, Reg Allen, until about three years ago.

Only been in Ladbrokes once since it moved to its new location. Not been in Reggies, as was, since it was taken over. Been in Hill's twice the last couple of weeks, but not for years before that.

Went down at lunchtime tdoay to have a few quid at 11-1 on 4+ v Sheff Wed tomorrow night, including a fiver for the painter who's been round my gaff the past week and a bit. There were six people in there. An old fella who's spent every day in the bookies since before I was born. Everyone knows him as 'Dad'.

Then there were three young dudes round one FOBT and two asian women round the other. What a depressing scene imo. And then they jumped off at steepledowns (virtual racing). Urgh.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Longy on March 14, 2011, 11:28:48 PM
Mackail Smith going to Norwich on loan with a view to a 2million+ permanent deal.

Views?



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on March 14, 2011, 11:33:44 PM
astonished posh would loan him out. superb player, a class above at league 1 level, will fit into the championship nicely


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 11:34:45 PM
Mackail Smith going to Norwich on loan with a view to a 2million+ permanent deal.

Views?



FML.

Will Skybet let me void all those bets on 5+ goals tomorrow?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on March 14, 2011, 11:38:48 PM
Why let him go before the playoffs? Good signing to play off holt. Pearson wanted him badly for us last season


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 14, 2011, 11:40:20 PM
Dion Dublin has just reported on Late Kickoff that CMS will be a Norwich player by next Monday. Loan deal to permenant for a fee up to £3m...

Would be very very very surprised


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 11:41:29 PM
He just tweeted this:

Just guna put all the animals to bed now then getting myself ready for bed and having an early one ready for the game tomoro! Nite Tweeps!

Doesn't sound like a player just about to move.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Longy on March 14, 2011, 11:43:46 PM
He just tweeted this:

Just guna put all the animals to bed now then getting myself ready for bed and having an early one ready for the game tomoro! Nite Tweeps!

Doesn't sound like a player just about to move.

As Chompy said above, can't see Dion making this up on TV if there wasn't something really in it. He will probably playing for Posh tomorrow though!



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on March 14, 2011, 11:44:19 PM
I reckon there wouldn't be any betting shops left now were it not for fixed odds betting terminals.


Totally this.  When I first started working for Ladbrokes I worked in their most profitable shop and in a good month it could make quarter of a million.  I had a beer with the old manager of it when I was back in the UK recently and he packed it in to bet for a living a couple of years ago and told me at the time he left they were taking almost half that through the machines and it had had a much bigger effect (in percentage terms) on the bottom line of other shops.  You know what it is like these days if you walk into a shop and ask for a couple of hundred on something that is real they looka t you like you are something they have scraped off your shoe.....funnily enough I have occasionally said to them "I will be on the machines" whilst they call trading and I have got through if it wasn't too dirty.  (£1 blackjack playing perfect strategy FTW)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 11:44:41 PM
Dion Dublin has just reported on Late Kickoff that CMS will be a Norwich player by next Monday. Loan deal to permenant for a fee up to £3m...

Would be very very very surprised

Ah, so he plays tomorrow regardless.

Still strange to sell him now, unless Posh think they won't get 2m for him this summer.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 11:47:08 PM
I reckon there wouldn't be any betting shops left now were it not for fixed odds betting terminals.


Totally this.  When I first started working for Ladbrokes I worked in their most profitable shop and in a good month it could make quarter of a million.  I had a beer with the old manager of it when I was back in the UK recently and he packed it in to bet for a living a couple of years ago and told me at the time he left they were taking almost half that through the machines and it had had a much bigger effect (in percentage terms) on the bottom line of other shops.  You know what it is like these days if you walk into a shop and ask for a couple of hundred on something that is real they looka t you like you are something they have scraped off your shoe.....funnily enough I have occasionally said to them "I will be on the machines" whilst they call trading and I have got through if it wasn't too dirty.  (£1 blackjack playing perfect strategy FTW)

This is so shrewd.

Definitely worth a try.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 14, 2011, 11:53:26 PM
If Torres is worth £50m then CMS is worth at least £10m. And that's not me being biased. The guy is different gear.

If he goes to Norwich now then there's something seriously wrong going on at the club. Hard to know what Daragh's property empire is actually worth now.

Will be interesting to see what happens.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 14, 2011, 11:59:02 PM
If Torres is worth £50m then CMS is worth at least £10m. And that's not me being biased. The guy is different gear.

If he goes to Norwich now then there's something seriously wrong going on at the club. Hard to know what Daragh's property empire is actually worth now.

Will be interesting to see what happens.

Any idea when his contract runs out?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 15, 2011, 07:56:13 AM
I have 18's, 16's & 11's top scorer on him, better not go f@&$%#g anywhere...!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on March 15, 2011, 09:46:37 AM
Lambert just said on talksport he knows nothing  about cms joining norwich.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on March 15, 2011, 11:32:57 AM
Fry just said they had talks but turned it down. He plays tonight.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 15, 2011, 11:37:29 AM
LOLZ, GG Dion, always sounded like guff imo. CMS can do better than Naaaaaaarwich in the summer.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 15, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
LOLZ, GG Dion, always sounded like guff imo. CMS can do better than Naaaaaaarwich in the summer.

'6th club with a bid he said'

ideas of others?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on March 15, 2011, 11:50:57 AM
LOLZ, GG Dion, always sounded like guff imo. CMS can do better than Naaaaaaarwich in the summer.

'6th club with a bid he said'

ideas of others?

Leicester last season 100%, Hull this I gather. McLean's doing ok there too.



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 15, 2011, 11:52:45 AM
LOLZ, GG Dion, always sounded like guff imo. CMS can do better than Naaaaaaarwich in the summer.

'6th club with a bid he said'

ideas of others?

Leicester last season 100%, Hull this I gather. McLean's doing ok there too.



Blackpool too maybe?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 15, 2011, 11:56:48 AM
Wolves one of them apparently


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 21, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
CMS wins League One Player of the year.

No surprise there.

But I was surprised to find out he is 27, I would have guessed 23 or 24.

You'll do well to get more than 2m for a player unproven at Prem level and who had the least prolific season of his career at Championship level.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 21, 2011, 06:27:36 PM

Chompers,

I have some free bets with Sky Poker, & they just sent me these prices. Good, bad?

1st Scorer:
George Boyd 7/1 from 6/1
Luke Chadwick 16/1 from 14/1

Correct Score:
MK Dons 2-0 16/1 from 14/1
Peterborough 1-0 11/1 from 10/1

Scorecast Boost:

Vine & 2-1 MK Dons 50/1 from 45/1
Mackail Smith & Peterborough 3-1 75/1 from 70/1


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 21, 2011, 07:02:26 PM
Yep, CMS is 27 but not many miles on the clock and got a good three years left at his current level imo. Fat Barry wants £5m in the summer but think £3m is realistic.

Just a watcher tonight's game for me. It's looking like a scrap between us and Soton for the second automatic spot but we need to win this.

Nearly just a watcher anyway. Couldn't resist a bit on Posh scoring 4+ with Baldfred. 18-1!

LOLZ at scorecasts! We is serious punters on here isn't it.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 21, 2011, 07:08:58 PM
Yep, CMS is 27 but not many miles on the clock and got a good three years left at his current level imo. Fat Barry wants £5m in the summer but think £3m is realistic.

Just a watcher tonight's game for me. It's looking like a scrap between us and Soton for the second automatic spot but we need to win this.

Nearly just a watcher anyway. Couldn't resist a bit on Posh scoring 4+ with Baldfred. 18-1!

LOLZ at scorecasts! We is serious punters on here isn't it.

Sorry Boss.

Any decent Tourneys lined up? My pocket is itching.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 21, 2011, 07:19:50 PM
£150 at Circus Circus this weekend, then it's off to Vegas next Wednesday for a week of deepstackery. Not been arsed with poker for a while but ready for a stint now.

Also need a break from IR. Playing every day for four months without a break is enough. Always find I do better when coming back to it after a week off anyway. Then evening racing starts. Canna wait.

WED 6/15/11 $550 Position Poker ™ $5,000 ADDED

^^^ Taken from the Venetian summer schedule. Heard last week they're going to be running a tournament whereby you can cash out if you want. So if you've doubled your stack at the first break in a $560, you can cash out for $1k. That right?

'Position Poker' appears in place of NLHE but google comes up with nothing for 'position poker', except articles on how position is important in poker. Tell that to Sir Foldskingsprealot with AQ in the small blind!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 21, 2011, 07:39:43 PM
Good luck in Vegas next week. Both of us!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 21, 2011, 09:59:20 PM
Sigh. Miserable. Disliked. Franchise. Workmanlike. Boring. Unsupported. Wankers.

Whatever, we aren't good enough to go up this season. If we do we'll just bomb again. And that would be the end of the Fergie era for sure.

Let CMS and the vastly overrated Joe Lewis move on. Strengthen defence, bring in Romain Vincelot and see where we go from there.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Xpressman on March 22, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
Sorry about Peterborough Chompy

Hopefully this will cheer you up tonight !!

1   Brighton v Notts Co (Backing  Brighton @ 1.55)
2   St Johnstone v Brechin (Backing  St Johnstone @ 1.34)
3   Eastbourne v Crawley Town (Backing  Crawley Town @ 1.38)
4   Clyde v Arbroath (Backing  Arbroath @ 1.64)
5   Raith v Ross Co (Backing  Raith @ 1.98)

£5  Lucky 31  (Betfair multiple prices)

Nice chunk on Arbroath away available at 1.7 (Betfair)     Aldershot at home to Barnet  Home win 2.12 (Betfair)

Hope all works out


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: claypole on March 22, 2011, 07:18:58 PM
£150 at Circus Circus this weekend, then it's off to Vegas next Wednesday for a week of deepstackery. Not been arsed with poker for a while but ready for a stint now.

Also need a break from IR. Playing every day for four months without a break is enough. Always find I do better when coming back to it after a week off anyway. Then evening racing starts. Canna wait.

WED 6/15/11 $550 Position Poker ™ $5,000 ADDED

^^^ Taken from the Venetian summer schedule. Heard last week they're going to be running a tournament whereby you can cash out if you want. So if you've doubled your stack at the first break in a $560, you can cash out for $1k. That right?

'Position Poker' appears in place of NLHE but google comes up with nothing for 'position poker', except articles on how position is important in poker. Tell that to Sir Foldskingsprealot with AQ in the small blind!

I've read something on position poker recently - can remember where though. I think from memory Mathosow involved in development, basically something to do with being last to act after you win a pot I think, basically messes with button. There's a bit more to it than that clearly. Just realised this post less than useful lolol


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on March 22, 2011, 07:50:13 PM
£150 at Circus Circus this weekend, then it's off to Vegas next Wednesday for a week of deepstackery. Not been arsed with poker for a while but ready for a stint now.

Also need a break from IR. Playing every day for four months without a break is enough. Always find I do better when coming back to it after a week off anyway. Then evening racing starts. Canna wait.

WED 6/15/11 $550 Position Poker ™ $5,000 ADDED

^^^ Taken from the Venetian summer schedule. Heard last week they're going to be running a tournament whereby you can cash out if you want. So if you've doubled your stack at the first break in a $560, you can cash out for $1k. That right?

'Position Poker' appears in place of NLHE but google comes up with nothing for 'position poker', except articles on how position is important in poker. Tell that to Sir Foldskingsprealot with AQ in the small blind!

Position Poker is a game that Johnny Chan is trying to bring forward. Basically the game is the same as NL holdem, except that when u win a pot, you will get a special button. That person will act after the button but before the small and big blind preflop and after the button on the flop, turn, and river regardless of position. Since the Venetian is willing to help promote the game for one day, they have agreed to add $ 5000 to the prizepool.

Found that online somewhere .



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 22, 2011, 10:36:10 PM
Sure will be playing this.

Unlucky those Scotch lower league hoofers let you down there Xpress. Saw the first three results and thought you were in for binkage. Ul.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Xpressman on March 23, 2011, 08:06:50 AM
I had good binkage on Arbroath and Aldershot Tho   Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on March 23, 2011, 02:10:56 PM
I had good binkage on Arbroath and Aldershot Tho   Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Arbroath drew 1-1??

Also and without sounding to be rude nor patronising, backing heavy odds on away, especially in accumulators-is the quickest way to the poor house imo.

A books dream.

Just my imo tho mate and best of luck. :)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ruholding on March 23, 2011, 03:24:05 PM
I had good binkage on Arbroath and Aldershot Tho   Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

i am confused.com - did u have arbroath to win?? final score was 1-1.

mad dog allen back at barnet - conference here we come


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Xpressman on March 23, 2011, 04:43:00 PM
Your quite right i done my dosh on Arbroath, but i forgot to mention that i also had a few shekels on St johnstone as well so i got my money back on Arbroath....


Also Aldershot gave me a nice few Quid so i did come out slightly on top......



Tonight I'm going to have a few quid Half time / Full time on Braintree at Lewis and Circle Brugge 90 Min's  in the Belgium League....

May have a small treble including Ayr

Mad i know Nico !!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: scotty2hatty on March 23, 2011, 06:06:21 PM
Your quite right i done my dosh on Arbroath, but i forgot to mention that i also had a few shekels on St johnstone as well so i got my money back on Arbroath....

lawl


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ruholding on March 24, 2011, 12:56:53 PM
Your quite right i done my dosh on Arbroath, but i forgot to mention that i also had a few shekels on St johnstone as well so i got my money back on Arbroath....


Also Aldershot gave me a nice few Quid so i did come out slightly on top......



Tonight I'm going to have a few quid Half time / Full time on Braintree at Lewis and Circle Brugge 90 Min's  in the Belgium League....

May have a small treble including Ayr

Mad i know Nico !!

1 out of 3 aint bad!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on March 27, 2011, 10:34:11 PM

What's your line on this gibberish nonsense? Would you really bet on this stuff? I get these, & their like, daily, from upstairs.

Sawalha and Rippon favourites to be frozen out of Dancing On Ice

Dancing On Ice kicks off with a twist this year: two celebrities will be booted off before they even join the show proper and Sky Bet has opened betting on which duo will be dropped.

Half of this year’s crop of 16 celebrities will take to the ice on Sunday’s launch show and the three who receive least public votes will face the skate-off, with the two least popular celebrities hanging up their skates. The new-look judging panel of Emma Bunton, Jason Gardiner and Robin Cousins will have no say in who goes.

Sky Bet make actress Nadia Sawalha favourite to be axed at 11/10, with ex-newsreader Angela Rippon second favourite at 11/8.
 
War hero Johnson Beharry is next in the elimination betting at 5/2, together with TV presenter Jeff Brazier.

Former Coronation street actor Stephen Arnold is 3/1 to be axed, with US rapper Vanilla Ice a 7/2 shot.

Kerry Katona, who recently cracked two ribs in training, is a 5/1 outsider to be one of the two eliminees and is proving a popular bet to win Dancing On Ice at 10/1.

Nickelodeon presenter Laura Hamilton, who is 7/2 second favourite to win the show and described by Christopher Dean as a ‘speed demon’, is 7/2 to be knocked out.

Sky Bet’s Helen Jacob said: “With the public in control on Sunday, the best skaters and the biggest household names should benefit, while those who fall into neither camp are going to struggle to make the cut and we fear Nadia and Angela might be skating on thin ice.”

The remaining eight contestants will skate the following Sunday, when another two will leave the contest before the competition gets properly underway in week three.

Former EastEnders star Sam Attwater is Sky Bet’s early 9/4 favourite to win Dancing On Ice.

Dancing On Ice Week 1 double elimination
Nadia Sawalha 11/10, Angela Rippon 11/8,Jeff Brazier 5/2, Johnson Beharry 5/2, Stephen Arnold 3/1, Vanilla Ice 7/2, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Kerry Katona 5/1
Note: Which 2 celebs will come bottom of the public vote and be eliminated on Sunday?

Dancing On Ice Winner
Sam Attwater 9/4, Laura Hamilton 7/2, Jennifer Metcalfe, 6/1 Jeff Brazier 7/1, Kerry Katona 10/1, Johnson Beharry 16/1, Vanilla Ice 20/1, Chloe Madeley 20/1, Dave Vitty 20/1, Denise Welch 22/1, Elen Rives 22/1, Craig McLachlan 25/1, Steven Arnold 28/1, Nadia Sawalha 28/1,Angela Rippon 33/1, Dominic Cork 33/1.


I think betting on this kind of event is fine if you think you have/get an edge on the betting.

Last year Bobby1 posted pre start ;

"I know this is sad, but I have been told that Hayley Tammaden is training really well in the Dancing on Ice thing. Apparently she is a trained dancer too so might be worth a bet at around 11/2 or 6/1."


....and some of us had a nice touch. :)

Where has Bobby1 gone?

He hasn't posted since August.

Funnily enough I got a PM from Bobby1 just before Xmas advising me to take the 4/1 about Sam Attwater.

He kindly send me an email too. Fingers crossed again!

Second year running. ;tightend;

Thanks Bobby1 :)up


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 28, 2011, 12:40:34 PM
Good shout that. Market always seems to get these events right now though. Top two in the betting both made the final three.

Two days till Vegas...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 28, 2011, 12:47:57 PM
Thoughts on League One promotion race?

Huddersfield mighty impressive yesterday...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 28, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Too tight to call. I'm right back into it though. Had the most vivid dream last night. We were away at Hudderfield in the first leg of the play-offs and they raced into a 2-0 lead (2mins, 5mins) before winning 3-0. Price please Trigg?

Southampton ain't that good. Huddersfield flattered yesterday against a bad team. One point from two games v Franchise and Brizzle Rovers not good enough for us. Hate sitting on the fence but wouldn't want to call it.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on March 28, 2011, 02:16:10 PM

Agreed very tight
As a B'mouth fan, I hoping we can hang in there, ...played great on Sat and v unlucky not to get 3 pts.

Had a go at the BBC predictor for a laugh and it came:

Brighton  91
Soton     89
---------------
Hudders  85
Posh       84
B'mouth  77
MK Dons  75
---------------
Orient     72


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 28, 2011, 02:27:05 PM
Huuuuuuuuuge game on Sky this Friday, Poshies v Cherries. Shame I won't be able to see it. Unless they'd be able to show it in an English rubadub in Vegas. Anyone?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 28, 2011, 02:30:02 PM
Huuuuuuuuuge game on Sky this Friday, Poshies v Cherries. Shame I won't be able to see it. Unless they'd be able to show it in an English rubadub in Vegas. Anyone?

Subtle "I'm off to Vegas" barg post imo.

If you are taking your laptop with you http://atdhenet.tv/ will have a stream.

Doubtful The Rose and Crown (just off the strip) will show a League 1 match, but worth giving them a bell maybe.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on March 28, 2011, 02:31:57 PM

As a B'mouth fan, I hoping we can hang in there, ...played great on Sat and v unlucky not to get 3 pts.


did you go nick? I've only read reports from our side but sounds like it was all down to elliott playing out of his skin for the last 10 and making 6 or 7 top draw saves

Southampton ain't that good

last week was the first time I've seen them this season so small sample size and all that but have to say there was nothing there to suggest they were a team at the top of the table. distinctly average


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 28, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
Found the pub and sent an email to 'infosoccerman' asking whether they'll be showing the Poshies match. Sure this will figure high on their list of unusual requests.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on March 28, 2011, 02:54:06 PM

As a B'mouth fan, I hoping we can hang in there, ...played great on Sat and v unlucky not to get 3 pts.


did you go nick? I've only read reports from our side but sounds like it was all down to elliott playing out of his skin for the last 10 and making 6 or 7 top draw saves

Southampton ain't that good

last week was the first time I've seen them this season so small sample size and all that but have to say there was nothing there to suggest they were a team at the top of the table. distinctly average

Didn't go.....but watched the extended highlights on The League show/ read the reports. Elliot easily Man of the Match!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 28, 2011, 02:58:37 PM
Found the pub and sent an email to 'infosoccerman' asking whether they'll be showing the Poshies match. Sure this will figure high on their list of unusual requests.

Google is just incred.

I typed in Rose and Crown Vegas and they gave me answers for Crown and Anchor which is the name of the pub.

But even more incred, look at the eighth result for this search!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=the+rose+and+crown+vegas&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ripple11 on March 28, 2011, 03:04:28 PM
Found the pub and sent an email to 'infosoccerman' asking whether they'll be showing the Poshies match. Sure this will figure high on their list of unusual requests.

Google is just incred.

I typed in Rose and Crown Vegas and they gave me answers for Crown and Anchor which is the name of the pub.

But even more incred, look at the eighth result for this search!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=the+rose+and+crown+vegas&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

 rotflmfao


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Acidmouse on March 29, 2011, 12:00:58 PM
Found this the other day and it is a mental video. Who is Barney Curley and I wonder how he saved Johns ass? had me in stitches this.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on March 29, 2011, 12:07:52 PM
Found this the other day and it is a mental video. Who is Barney Curley and I wonder how he saved Johns ass? had me in stitches this.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE
What?

You don't remember Yellow Sam?

Good grief man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Sam_betting_coup


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Acidmouse on March 29, 2011, 12:09:57 PM
No idea tbh, I don't follow racing past a 20p lucky 15 on the odd Saturday :) He sounds a reet character!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 29, 2011, 12:16:42 PM
Barney still going strong. He had it right off not so long ago, placing a load of trebles on a couple of his horses and another with another trainer (25-1 into around 6-4 from memory).

Pricing up Barney's horses for the Racing Post has always been fun. Even if they've shown nothing, you're always reluctant to go bigger than 10-1. They could go off 100-1 or 4-6, depending on what Barney fancies.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 31, 2011, 06:24:04 PM
Played one, won one. sort of. Major binkage too. Venetian $120 night tournament after a long flight. 41 runners. Seven-way chop, me $600. Ready to come home now.

+$480


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pizzled on March 31, 2011, 10:31:25 PM
Played one, won one. sort of. Major binkage too. Venetian $120 night tournament after a long flight. 41 runners. Seven-way chop, me $600. Ready to come home now.

+$480

Wiiiiiiii. Quit as a winner :D


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on March 31, 2011, 11:54:20 PM
Played one, won one. sort of. Major binkage too. Venetian $120 night tournament after a long flight. 41 runners. Seven-way chop, me $600. Ready to come home now.

+$480

You could get this in luton


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on April 01, 2011, 12:04:36 AM
Played one, won one. sort of. Major binkage too. Venetian $120 night tournament after a long flight. 41 runners. Seven-way chop, me $600. Ready to come home now.

+$480

You could get this in luton

Yeah, but the girls you can spend your winnings on are not in the same class.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on April 01, 2011, 12:31:25 AM
Played one, won one. sort of. Major binkage too. Venetian $120 night tournament after a long flight. 41 runners. Seven-way chop, me $600. Ready to come home now.

+$480

You could get this in luton

Yeah, but the girls you can spend your winnings on are not in the same class.

Would know what to do with one if they were giving them away with bottles of bud


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on April 01, 2011, 12:33:41 AM

Quit now, whilst we are ahead!

I'm rich beyond my wildest dreams.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 01, 2011, 06:03:42 PM
Fraid not, did in a hefty $355 in four tourneys yesterday. Reshoved QQ from the SB at Caesar's over a shorty shove from UTG (or P1 as RUHellmuth likes to call it) and BB awakened with KK. Final table bubble in a monster field of 51. FML.

+$125

First deepstacky in two hours...

Gogogogo Poshies! If anyone is watching the match and fancies posting a report I'll be back online in exactly 3hrs30mins.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on April 01, 2011, 08:35:02 PM
3-1 half time.

CMS scored 2.

Just a normal 45 minutes at London Road.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on April 01, 2011, 09:02:09 PM
Don't know how much it costs to relay a pitch but I think you could at least do with asking for the heavy roller.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on April 01, 2011, 09:44:05 PM
2 horrible mistakes by Lewis, one after 92 minutes, gifted Bournemouth a 3-3 draw from 3-1 down at HT

The move by bournemouth to bring on veteran target man fletcher made the difference, and it made Peterborough's back four look skittish and uncertain

As ever Posh superb going forward.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on April 01, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
Fletcher's header was vvv impressive.
Lewis was vvv poor.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: AndrewT on April 01, 2011, 10:32:37 PM
I owe you a pint Tighty.

I gave up at half-time and watched old Top of the Pops instead.

Nice surprise opening this thread.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on April 02, 2011, 01:54:12 AM
Congrats on the win Choppy.

glglggl in the deeptacks.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 02, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
Lewis just ain't that good.

Two English dudes to my left in the deepy yesterday. One of them tex his mate to get the score. "Give me the Bournemouth score first will ya?"

"Free", said Sof, my new cockney mate what lives in Barcelona. "Meh, I'll guess it was a draw then?" Incred! Playoffs here we come.

Deepstack sure went well. Got to 300-600, utg+1, aka P2, rises t0 1400, so I go all in for 35k. Or 7.6k more accurately. With AQ. Ace on the flop, he hits his set on the turn. -$345.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on April 02, 2011, 06:50:07 PM
Lewis just ain't that good.

Two English dudes to my left in the deepy yesterday. One of them tex his mate to get the score. "Give me the Bournemouth score first will ya?"

"Free", said Sof, my new cockney mate what lives in Barcelona. "Meh, I'll guess it was a draw then?" Incred! Playoffs here we come.

Deepstack sure went well. Got to 300-600, utg+1, aka P2, rises t0 1400, so I go all in for 35k. Or 7.6k more accurately. With AQ. Ace on the flop, he hits his set on the turn. -$345.

Lewis was incredible for the game I went to against Brighton.

Best goalkeeping performance I've seen in a long time.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 03, 2011, 07:42:06 PM
Meh, maybe he just needs a move then. He's never lived up to the hype at London Road. Made a good few mistakes and I'd be hard pushed to think of a recent match in which his performance changed the result.

Yesterday was fun. Had over double the average going into the 150-300 level in the deepy...and was gone within six hands.

Doubled up a shorty, AK < AQ

Then QQ < 1010 and QQ < AA in successive hands.

Third of 31 in the $100 turbo = $465. Boom! Went out with 1010 < 88 on a 9 10 J K 7 board. All in pre obv. $814 up top too!

Venetian night tourney lasted 10 mins, AK < AA.

Switched to Caesar's. 55 < QQ on a Q5223 board. about 15mins in. Second stack went on flopped two pair v flush draw. Awesome.

Wandered down the strip and drank quite a lot of Guinness in O'Shea's. Played the $45 12-runner affair. Had over half the chips in play four handed but then JJ < JQ v second stack. Out soon after.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on April 03, 2011, 08:05:11 PM
Meh, maybe he just needs a move then. He's never lived up to the hype at London Road. Made a good few mistakes and I'd be hard pushed to think of a recent match in which his performance changed the result.

Yesterday was fun. Had over double the average going into the 150-300 level in the deepy...and was gone within six hands.

Doubled up a shorty, AK < AQ

Then QQ < 1010 and QQ < AA in successive hands.

Third of 31 in the $100 turbo = $465. Boom! Went out with 1010 < 88 on a 9 10 J K 7 board. All in pre obv. $814 up top too!

Venetian night tourney lasted 10 mins, AK < AA.

Switched to Caesar's. 55 < QQ on a Q5223 board. about 15mins in. Second stack went on flopped two pair v flush draw. Awesome.

Wandered down the strip and drank quite a lot of Guinness in O'Shea's. Played the $45 12-runner affair. Had over half the chips in play four handed but then JJ < JQ v second stack. Out soon after.

You didn't manage to get an 11 way chop in the $45 comp?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: luther101 on April 04, 2011, 11:58:50 AM

Chomps, I do admire your consistency      .....         you're shit no matter which side of the Atlantic you play.




Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 04, 2011, 06:15:14 PM
Tytytyty, all that was missing was a "So anyway, I had aces..." story.

So, anyway, there are three limpers at 200-400 and I look down at aces on the button...

Virgin Atlantic Taxi!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 05, 2011, 10:53:50 PM
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1659588/foo-fighters-back-and-forth-doc-april-screenings.jhtml

Some things are worth missing the first round of a US Masters for. Not many things. But this is definitely one of them. Dave Grohl IS. He Just IS.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on April 07, 2011, 06:50:17 PM
I didn't even know u were in Vegas chomps
Any deep stack binkage to report?
DrainPipe


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on April 09, 2011, 05:01:28 PM
charlton have finally played out a goaless league game vs oldham. it's been 76 matches since our last one back in 2009, also against oldham. guess that speaks volumes about the way they play

leaves your lot with a free run at the record, guess you're on about the 67 mark now


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 10, 2011, 11:51:10 AM
Woop woop!

Page 110 of today's Racing Post..."Crawley are 12-1 with Victor Chandler to win League Two next season..."

Couldn't find the price on VC website so rang them. Didn't realise they no longer take bets over the phone. Weird decision imo. Anyway, got put through to a soccoer odds compiler.

"Can I help sir?"
"Yep, on page 110 of today's paper it says you're 12-1 Crawley for League Two next season"
"Are we sir? News to me. Can I ring you back?"

Half an hour later.

"Yes sir, we are indeed 12-1"
"How much will you lay me?"
"We're quite happy to take a significant amount"
"Will you do me such and such at 12-1?"
"Sorry, the most we can take is £500"
"LOLZ. OK."

MASSIVE price imo. They'll probably have slashed it now but Sid James still go 10-1.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on April 10, 2011, 12:04:57 PM
How do you think Joe Lewis feels this morning?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 10, 2011, 12:16:29 PM
Shit, I would imagine, which is pretty much what he's been most of the season. Cost us four points in the last week and any chance of automatic promotion, although I doubt we'd have beaten Soton to second anyway.

Would like to see him dropped and Paul Jones brought in. Doubt it'll happen though.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on April 10, 2011, 12:44:13 PM
Shit, I would imagine, which is pretty much what he's been most of the season. Cost us four points in the last week and any chance of automatic promotion, although I doubt we'd have beaten Soton to second anyway.

Would like to see him dropped and Paul Jones brought in. Doubt it'll happen though.

He was pretty good yesterday, even saved a pen @ 0-1 on 84 minutes. Think he was your only player to get a touch in the second half.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 10, 2011, 12:54:16 PM
Penalty was a gimme really. Mate of mine at the game said we tore Udders apart first half and the second half was quite even. Guessing somewhere in between the two match reports might be accurate? Either way, see you at Old Trafford sir.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on April 10, 2011, 01:10:14 PM
Penalty was a gimme really. Mate of mine at the game said we tore Udders apart first half and the second half was quite even. Guessing somewhere in between the two match reports might be accurate? Either way, see you at Old Trafford sir.

Would be some game that, hope it happens.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 13, 2011, 04:08:07 PM
Victor Chandler now 6/1 about Creepy Crawley winning League Two next season. Stan James also cut them, from 10/1 to 13/2.

There's only rubbish coming down from League One and I'd be very surprised if they're bigger than 5/1 come the summer.

Shame I only got a monkey on but better than a kick in the teeth.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on April 13, 2011, 04:09:29 PM
Brighton to go up again next year pls Chompy? A price?

Gather there is a lot of squad investment going in over the summer, with a view to going up again in their new ground


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on April 13, 2011, 04:18:10 PM
bet365 go 20/1 outright and 6/1 to go up

meh.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 13, 2011, 04:31:12 PM
Yup, will be keeping a close eye on the early Brighton prices too. See if someone wants to stick up some 8/1 about them going up again.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on April 13, 2011, 08:28:05 PM
Yup, will be keeping a close eye on the early Brighton prices too. See if someone wants to stick up some 8/1 about them going up again.

I'd be lunching it even at 7s on this - let me know if they go to 7 Chimpay and I'll wade in with 10 betfair points I think


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on April 13, 2011, 09:48:16 PM
Looking forward to channel 5's Big Brother? Any changes you expect from the Channel 4 version?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 14, 2011, 01:04:50 AM
They definitely doing it? Last I heard it was just a possibility. Good news imo. You know more than me jose, first I've heard of it since the CH5 rumours kicked off last autumn.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on April 14, 2011, 06:47:01 PM
They definitely doing it? Last I heard it was just a possibility. Good news imo. You know more than me jose, first I've heard of it since the CH5 rumours kicked off last autumn.

Heard its a def yeh, pretty sure they are starting off with a celeb version first tho, and last i heard they hadnt sorted a perm host and davina had already said no.

God i listen to/read too much trash nowadays!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on April 14, 2011, 06:48:59 PM
They definitely doing it? Last I heard it was just a possibility. Good news imo. You know more than me jose, first I've heard of it since the CH5 rumours kicked off last autumn.

Heard its a def yeh, pretty sure they are starting off with a celeb version first tho, and last i heard they hadnt sorted a perm host and davina had already said no.

God i listen to/read too much trash nowadays!
Reckon Brian Dowling might get the gig.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 14, 2011, 09:15:44 PM
As long as it's not Davina I don't care. Brian dowling a good shout.

Hope they've got Marcus though, he IS the voice of BB.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ruholding on April 15, 2011, 12:18:38 PM
As long as it's not Davina I don't care. Brian dowling a good shout.

Hope they've got Marcus though, he IS the voice of BB.

marcus wants to do it.

If not should we send someone from blonde to audition?? gotta be that guy from ukipt on weds with those birds arm in arm and singing - Ash?? - im sure ive seen him at luton???


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 15, 2011, 01:54:26 PM
Just completed my second golf lesson. Should be ready for the European Tour within a couple of weeks according to my coach.

Now about to buy a set of clubs and all the other shiz. Anyone got any advice?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on April 15, 2011, 02:29:45 PM
I'm absolute rubbish at golf and bought myself a set of clubs a couple of years ago. Bought a set of Mizuno irons. Meant to have a large sweet spot and forgiving for the amateur. Nice enough clubs but I play a lot better with my Dad's King Cobra Irons which cost significantly more.
Dunno if that is because they are much better or I feel more confident playing with better clubs but if I were to buy another set i'd get a decent set over a "good for beginners" set.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on April 15, 2011, 02:42:25 PM
Just completed my second golf lesson. Should be ready for the European Tour within a couple of weeks according to my coach.

Now about to buy a set of clubs and all the other shiz. Anyone got any advice?

uv already got the jumper wot else could u possibly need


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 15, 2011, 02:48:15 PM
My teach reckons Ping ftw.

Six irons, a hybrid club to replace 3 and 4 irons, and a mo-fo driver what costs £200.

With the bag and trolley and bits'n'bobs, about a bag of sand for the lot. Sound about right? Best off buying from the golf club or elsewhere.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on April 15, 2011, 02:50:07 PM
Just completed my second golf lesson. Should be ready for the European Tour within a couple of weeks according to my coach.

Now about to buy a set of clubs and all the other shiz. Anyone got any advice?

That'll be goodbye poker, then. Golf is incredibly addictive.

You live in the wrong part of the country, thoughjh, a good golf course has hills & valleys & stuff, but Fenland is pancakeville.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on April 15, 2011, 02:54:33 PM
Too much non betting talk itt, golf, big bro etc...come on chomps, more of the posh goals bets, horse info, general shrewd betting advice for those mugs amongst us.

Oh and i had many expensive lessons and clubs bought for me when i was young, my dad thought i cld even make it lol. Then i decided watching and betting on it was much more fun ftw!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 15, 2011, 03:08:18 PM
Nah, playing is awesome. Used to play loads and then suddenly stopped when Betfair IR became too good to miss.

Now it's golf>>>betfair>>>fishing>>>poker

First lesson, just did a half-swing, horizontal to horizontal, then today it was all the video stuff. Just got to focus on turning the shoulder, keeping the right arm straight on takeaway and not turning my hands over, and it'll be fine.

Clubs take ten days to get sorted. Then it's non-stop golf all summer. Some cracking courses right near here. There's one near Bedford which is seriously hilly. Also, Wyboston, in among all the lakes. Anyone fancy a round in a couple of weeks, give us a shout.

Bets still cropping up occasionally Nico. That Crawley 12/1 effort was ridic! Still rofling at the 'we're prepared to take a substantial bet' line. Monkey was all I was ever gonna get. He said call back tomorrow (Monday) when it will be on the website. I did that. Down to 8/1 by then obv.

Should be able to lay the lot off at around 6 in a couple of months imo but will keep it all.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on April 15, 2011, 03:31:27 PM
will golf affect ur hip ?  actually a serious question... just the one mind


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 15, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
Nope, was only told to avoid high-impact sports like squash. Did double check though and typed 'playing golf with a hip replacement' into google. Seems fine.

Amazing technology at the golf place. He put the vid of me smacking a 7 iron next to footage of Ernie Els doing the same. Els's left foot never leaves the ground or moves, either during or after the swing. Need to be very flexible to do that apparently. I was on toe-end before the club hit shoulder height. Sigh.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 15, 2011, 03:55:31 PM
Just had a quick look at the prices for the Poshy match tomorrow. 100-30 about us scoring 4+ has it covered.

Besides, not as keen on this match for goals galore as the upcoming game v Dagenham & Redbridge, aka our feeder club. That will be the last hurrah probably. Been a great bet for me this winter.

Tommy Rowe is too big at 16-1 with Coral to score first but not my sort of bet.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on April 15, 2011, 03:59:28 PM
if you buy your kit from the pro shop or range they should match the price of american discount golf online. you should't buy anything to expensive until you've finalised your swing, shaft stiffness etc comes into play. They reckon having your clubs made to measure is worth several shots off your handicap but i've never done it.

If you're in manc and want game give me a shout.



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on April 15, 2011, 04:02:23 PM
The New Bedfordshire Golf Club near me is the one you are about?. Half on the side of a hill, half in a forest.

Fantastic course. Tough as hell


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 15, 2011, 05:19:51 PM
if you buy your kit from the pro shop or range they should match the price of american discount golf online.


Perfect. Exactly the kind of thing I was after.

Nope, not tried that one Tighty, sounds good though. This one...

http://www.mowsburygolf.bedford.gov.uk/course.htm


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on April 15, 2011, 05:39:25 PM
you should devote twice as much practice to your short game than your long game. Standing by a green chipping ball after ball in different ways will do you wonders.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on April 15, 2011, 05:45:09 PM
if you buy your kit from the pro shop or range they should match the price of american discount golf online.


Perfect. Exactly the kind of thing I was after.

Nope, not tried that one Tighty, sounds good though. This one...

http://www.mowsburygolf.bedford.gov.uk/course.htm


Yes, played that

V hilly public course. Not in the greatest of condition though



This one is the old Bedfordshire, public now, cheap and a challenge

http://www.ousevalleygolfclub.co.uk/

If you want to hack round sometime I will accompany you for a mutual laugh



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Pelham Boy on April 15, 2011, 05:55:01 PM
Mowsbury is ok, excellent greens for a municipal the last time i played there. Easy course, ideal place to start.

The Ouse Valley course is probably one to avoid imo, was awful the last time i went. Shame, as it was a superb course when it was private. Some very tight fairways.

I'll have a game with you Chompy, i hardly play these days would love to get back into it.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 15, 2011, 06:55:28 PM
Deal, deal, deal, Mowsbury some time this summer ftw.

Shouldn't need to work on my short game, as the plan is to hit 100% of greens in regulation with my new super swing. Just need to practise putting from a few feet.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on April 15, 2011, 07:21:22 PM
Deal, deal, deal, Mowsbury some time this summer ftw.

Shouldn't need to work on my short game, as the plan is to hit 100% of greens in regulation with my new super swing. Just need to practise putting from a few feet.

gl with that.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Pelham Boy on April 15, 2011, 07:22:53 PM
I'll get celtic to caddie for me. We can call him Fanny.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on April 15, 2011, 07:43:29 PM
Nah, playing is awesome. Used to play loads and then suddenly stopped when Betfair IR became too good to miss.

Now it's golf>>>betfair>>>fishing>>>poker

First lesson, just did a half-swing, horizontal to horizontal, then today it was all the video stuff. Just got to focus on turning the shoulder, keeping the right arm straight on takeaway and not turning my hands over, and it'll be fine.

Clubs take ten days to get sorted. Then it's non-stop golf all summer. Some cracking courses right near here. There's one near Bedford which is seriously hilly. Also, Wyboston, in among all the lakes. Anyone fancy a round in a couple of weeks, give us a shout.

Bets still cropping up occasionally Nico. That Crawley 12/1 effort was ridic! Still rofling at the 'we're prepared to take a substantial bet' line. Monkey was all I was ever gonna get. He said call back tomorrow (Monday) when it will be on the website. I did that. Down to 8/1 by then obv.

Should be able to lay the lot off at around 6 in a couple of months imo but will keep it all.

You got the order close, but I prefer:

fishing>>>>>betfair>>>>>>poker>>>>>>>>football


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Hawk on April 15, 2011, 09:43:48 PM
My teach reckons Ping ftw.

Six irons, a hybrid club to replace 3 and 4 irons, and a mo-fo driver what costs £200.

With the bag and trolley and bits'n'bobs, about a bag of sand for the lot. Sound about right? Best off buying from the golf club or elsewhere.

If you want to know if a price is fair or not let me know, as  I work in the golf industry.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 16, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
This sound about right?

Ping i15 irons, 5 through pitching wedge - £480
Ping i15 hybrid - £115
Ping G15 driver - £209


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Simon Galloway on April 16, 2011, 07:01:21 PM
Will be up for a midweek daytime round.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Hawk on April 16, 2011, 07:10:36 PM
This sound about right?

Ping i15 irons, 5 through pitching wedge - £480
Ping i15 hybrid - £115
Ping G15 driver - £209



You should be able to haggle to pay this at most

Ping i15 5 -PW should be £399
i15 hybrid £115
G15 Driver should be £179






Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 16, 2011, 09:26:27 PM
Will be up for a midweek daytime round.

That's all I'm gonna be playing. Think that's a Friday fourball sorted at Mowsbury then. Tighty, Pelham plus caddy, Darvin Moon and myself.

Hawk, you have PM...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Hawk on April 16, 2011, 10:01:59 PM
Have replied. not sure if once or twice as comp crashed sending first one


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: moonandback on April 17, 2011, 12:31:03 PM
you should devote twice as much practice to your short game than your long game. Standing by a green chipping ball after ball in different ways will do you wonders.

agree with this 1000% hitting the ball is fun duffing chips and 4 putting will put you on tilt like nothing else though and as the old saying goes a good putter is a match for anyone and a bad putter is a match for no-one.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Moskvich on April 18, 2011, 04:46:34 AM
you should devote twice as much practice to your short game than your long game. Standing by a green chipping ball after ball in different ways will do you wonders.

agree with this 1000% hitting the ball is fun duffing chips and 4 putting will put you on tilt like nothing else though and as the old saying goes a good putter is a match for anyone and a bad putter is a match for no-one.

Personally disagree with this, if you're a beginner or getting back into it. Hitting the ball well is by far the most satisfying bit of the game, and the most difficult if you're getting going. Also if you can hit the ball ok most of the time it saves you a bit of embarrassment in front of others and means that you don't get in others' way, as well as avoiding you appearing to be another guy with all the gear and no idea. No point having a shiny new full set of Pings if you're too inconsistent for there to be a reliable difference between a 6 and 7 iron for example. I'd rather be hitting greens in two and then three putting than taking three or four to get on the green in the first place, even if I did still make a five. Obviously if you get to the stage where you want to find shots to get into single figures or break 90 or whatever, then yes, the short game becomes crucial.

Also just imo, try not to get caught up in the whole equipment fetish thing... So many people seem to think the latest shiniest clubs will help them when of course really they're just not very good or have huge technical flaws, and the hype behind the new stuff is almost all bullshit anyway. And people telling you about the selection of drivers they have in their garage is so boring (even by the standards of golfers' conversations).

Edit: just seen you said that you used to play quite a lot so probably don't need my shit advice. Good luck with it anyway.

Don't spose anyone here plays in south London/Surrey area..?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on April 18, 2011, 07:45:23 AM
Will be up for a midweek daytime round.

That's all I'm gonna be playing. Think that's a Friday fourball sorted at Mowsbury then. Tighty, Pelham plus caddy, Darvin Moon and myself.

Hawk, you have PM...

I am now even more tempted to get back to playing golf - a round with Chompy would be something else.

Not sure what Golf Club would accept him as a Member, but Flushy managed Membership at Royal West Sussex, & so anything is possible. Then again, standards in the Fens are low.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Karabiner on April 18, 2011, 09:28:03 AM
My teach reckons Ping ftw.

Six irons, a hybrid club to replace 3 and 4 irons, and a mo-fo driver what costs £200.

With the bag and trolley and bits'n'bobs, about a bag of sand for the lot. Sound about right? Best off buying from the golf club or elsewhere.


www.golfbidder.co.uk well worth a look.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on April 18, 2011, 03:34:07 PM
Will be up for a midweek daytime round.

That's all I'm gonna be playing. Think that's a Friday fourball sorted at Mowsbury then. Tighty, Pelham plus caddy, Darvin Moon and myself.

Hawk, you have PM...

I am now even more tempted to get back to playing golf - a round with Chompy would be something else.

Not sure what Golf Club would accept him as a Member, but Flushy managed Membership at Royal West Sussex, & so anything is possible. Then again, standards in the Fens are low.

A round with Chompy..daytime telly cert imo....  featuring chompy with assorted guests, strolling round a council municipal talking about whether vertical stripes really work, Peterborough away kits and how to raise fold Q 3 from UTG....


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 18, 2011, 03:39:12 PM
Done already, sold it to CH865.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on April 18, 2011, 03:52:25 PM
Done already, sold it to CH865.  Aljazeera
 

FYP


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nakor on April 18, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
Such a shame you don't actually live in the Fens - one thing we do have to offer is a huge amount of empty golf courses, and head to the coast for 3 or 4 of the best Links courses outside Scotland.

Come play Hunstanton or Brancaster for that more traditional golf experience.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: BPIL on April 21, 2011, 11:52:31 AM
why does this thread never get updated???

anyone heading to luton over next few days

regards

the sicilian
bpil


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on April 21, 2011, 12:23:48 PM
Why is my name being scrolled across this post ? am i a victim of bank manager hate ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 21, 2011, 01:51:42 PM
Bad old Betfair, down again!

Gonna have to sit in the garden or something.

G for me tomorrow night. What you got planned BPIL?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: BPIL on April 21, 2011, 05:24:36 PM
Why is my name being scrolled across this post ? am i a victim of bank manager hate ?

yes


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: BPIL on April 21, 2011, 05:25:11 PM
Bad old Betfair, down again!

Gonna have to sit in the garden or something.

G for me tomorrow night. What you got planned BPIL?

nothing much - gukpt next friday ftw


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on May 01, 2011, 01:37:22 PM
Ok, I have unlocked it.

Carry on posting now please Choppy.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Drain Alien on May 03, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
<bump>


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on May 10, 2011, 04:23:50 PM
How are you golf bore?

ready for a tour event yet?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on May 19, 2011, 09:40:32 PM
See you at Old T Chompy, ill be the one wearing blue and white  ;)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on May 19, 2011, 10:22:20 PM
^^^ ttt ^^^

You sooooo didn't want to play us in the final! Same as I desperately wanted those Cherries to win the penalties last night. Oh well, right two teams go to Old Trafford. We had two cracking games in the reg season and it won't be boring.

Boydy, Mackail, Tomlin, McCann, Zak, Little all outstanding tonight. Match replayed on Sky at midnight. Canna wait to see this one again.

MK Dons are very limited. We'll have Dean Lewington though please. And Sam Baldock as a replacement for CMS.

Scariest thing while chatting to Celtic on Facebook last night. Udders feeled were one up.

Celtic: "You watching?"
Me: "Yup, 1-0 Udders, game over"
Celtic: "Nah, I've got the quick pics. Bournemouth equalised in the 43rd min"

WTF!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on May 20, 2011, 09:23:08 AM
^^^ ttt ^^^

You sooooo didn't want to play us in the final! Same as I desperately wanted those Cherries to win the penalties last night. Oh well, right two teams go to Old Trafford. We had two cracking games in the reg season and it won't be boring.

Boydy, Mackail, Tomlin, McCann, Zak, Little all outstanding tonight. Match replayed on Sky at midnight. Canna wait to see this one again.

MK Dons are very limited. We'll have Dean Lewington though please. And Sam Baldock as a replacement for CMS.

Scariest thing while chatting to Celtic on Facebook last night. Udders feeled were one up.

Celtic: "You watching?"
Me: "Yup, 1-0 Udders, game over"
Celtic: "Nah, I've got the quick pics. Bournemouth equalised in the 43rd min"

WTF!

That was a bit scary, especially as  it was only the 35th minute at the time, and was flowed by, huddersfield will make it 2-1 just before the whistle for half time, and did!

Good luck in the final.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on May 20, 2011, 12:27:27 PM
MK Dons would have been a gimme in the final but their chance ended when your lot scored the 2nd in the first leg, should be a cracking game can't wait.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on June 16, 2011, 04:29:41 PM
bumpaments


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on June 16, 2011, 05:02:27 PM
 ;marks;

retireaments


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on June 16, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
;marks;

retireaments

sortyaselfoutaments  ;nana;

was always a good read, thus write more, end of  ;snoopy'sguns;


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on June 19, 2011, 11:34:07 PM
;marks;

retireaments

Once, we would have believed you......

Now, get writing again.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on July 22, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
Reckon Brian Dowling might get the gig.

good call


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on July 22, 2011, 12:51:44 PM
come on chomps, ante post bets to place here, surely u don't expect me to do any work on them, top goalscorer, divisional ones will do fine to get the ball rolling ta....


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on July 22, 2011, 01:05:27 PM
Thoughts on betfair and their new charges?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on July 22, 2011, 01:14:31 PM
Thoughts on betfair and their new charges?

Dont... you know he will only start crying again


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on July 24, 2011, 09:13:24 AM
LOLZ, be as well emailing you, Camel and Celtic imo Mr Nico sir. Just no traffic through here. Look at Celtic's diary in the main section ffs. Talks about eating hot dogs and banging his cleaner and gets a gazillion replies. Life just ain't fair.

Crawley League 2 - 12-1 already advised, wiiiiiiiii
Brighton to gain promotion to the Prem - 7-1 Coral
CMS top Championship goalscorer - 18-1

That's as much as I've done as yet.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on July 24, 2011, 10:12:35 AM
Why is there football talk on the Eurovision thread ?

Nice turn of phrase here :-)

Talks about eating hot dogs and banging his cleaner and gets a gazillion replies. Life just ain't fair.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on August 18, 2011, 09:12:39 PM
Big Brother is back!
Can you post your picks please Chompy?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 18, 2011, 09:22:04 PM
Aarrrrrrrrgh, CBB is on and I can't do any bettage as they enter the house. Canna bet with Betunfair no more and Betcrapq not covering it. FML.

Ten going in? Katona can't win, Tara Reid was SMASHED, Paddy Doherty urgh.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on August 18, 2011, 09:24:45 PM
Aarrrrrrrrgh, CBB is on and I can't do any bettage as they enter the house. Canna bet with Betunfair no more and Betcrapq not covering it. FML.

Ten going in? Katona can't win, Tara Reid was SMASHED, Paddy Doherty urgh.

why cant u use betfair?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redsimon on August 18, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
Premium charges I imagine...beat me to it :)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 18, 2011, 09:35:55 PM
Sigh, CH5 are completely missing the point of what makes BB great.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on August 18, 2011, 09:38:38 PM
Yeh not a fan of the interview before they go in.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on August 18, 2011, 09:46:39 PM
so you can't just take over somebody elses a/c they dont use much?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 18, 2011, 09:47:34 PM
Yup, agree with that Jose.

Was thinking more in terms of who's going in. Nothing here I'd be desperate to watch so far. No McRiricks or Rodmans or Les Denniseses.

Can't be done Soviet.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 18, 2011, 09:50:36 PM
Would've stuck a bit on Sally Bercow at 20 for starters.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 18, 2011, 09:52:45 PM
Here comes the winner. BB fan, young, luurvely smile and, dammit, the guy is BUFF. Lucien @ 8 the early bet.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on August 18, 2011, 10:02:53 PM
Crossing my fingers Jedward are still to come.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on August 18, 2011, 10:44:15 PM
Who wins Big Brother? 3 Jedward,3 Amy Childs,5 L Laviscount,15-2 Bobby Sabel,10 Kerry Katona,20 Tara Reid others on request #bet365


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: mondatoo on August 19, 2011, 02:18:17 AM
Yup, agree with that Jose.

Was thinking more in terms of who's going in. Nothing here I'd be desperate to watch so far. No McRiricks or Rodmans or Les Denniseses.

Can't be done Soviet.

How do they stop this ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 19, 2011, 10:04:10 AM
Mainly out of principle. Refuse to give Betfair another £ unless they drop the PC, which is doubtful.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on August 19, 2011, 10:13:34 AM
How much do you need to 'earn' before PC hits you?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 19, 2011, 10:15:37 AM
The new rules are...

More than 1000 lifetime bets
More than £250k career profitz
Not paid 40% in commission

Only takes in [  ] 0.1% of users


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on August 19, 2011, 10:36:21 AM
I like this rule;

Quote
Please note that for the purposes of calculating the charge we will assume that the charge has been in place since Betfair launched in June 2000. This means that we will consider all customers to have generated charges equal to at least 20%† of lifetime gross profits as of the 12th October 2009. However, this also means that for some customers, some or all of the £1,000 allowance against the charge will have been used prior to 12th October 2009 in order to offset hypothetical charges paid. Assuming hypothetical charges had been paid prior to introduction of the charge has the effect of reducing the amount that customers would typically incur.

Retroactive charges FTW.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on August 19, 2011, 11:23:59 AM
Have they lost a lot of customers through the new charge do you think?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 19, 2011, 04:38:26 PM
Our views on this matter are quite a way apart...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on August 20, 2011, 10:58:04 AM
They've lost some for sure, not sure about 'lots.' People seem to be suggesting they'll move over to Daq as a result and volume has seemingly decreased on BF (although not conclusively so). Ultimately though I think most will stay, as 60% of a lot is still a lot and probably more than people could make elsewhere. There's a FB page setup against the charge with people on there saying they're no longer on Betfair but I doubt if all of them are even in the 40% PC bracket and also, the number declaring they're off Betfair is a very small minority. I know when (hopefully!) I reach 250k I won't be moving or leaving betting altogether...I imagine a lot, like me, will instead try and adapt around the charge (e.g. churn low ROI strategies in order to generate some levels of commission to offset the charge).

Would be surprised tbh if Betfair actually lose money due to this change, as much as I'd like them to - you could argue that in future this may discourage 'mugs' from joining the exchange if the prospect of riches isn't there in the first place.

Don't really see why whether you pay the PC or not is relevant.  I have >£150k of losses on my BF account but I won't bet there since they introduced this level of PC because it is unfair.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: adnmdv on August 20, 2011, 11:06:43 AM
I'm not saying I'm happy with it and think they're perfectly justified in it (I think it's a move purely to inflate profits - despite their declared intentions, but they are a business after all), I'm just saying I'll be staying on anyway if I hit the 250k mark because not doing so is cutting off my nose to spite my face. If I leave, it'll have little effect on the chances of Betfair reversing the charge, so beyond 'fairness' reasons why would I, or others, leave? There's an even greater incentive imo for the bigger players to stay on. If you're making 250k a year, [income] tax free, why would you leave unless you can walk into another profession with the same pay?

Also, as I said, I do think *some* non-PC payers will leave as a result of the news (e.g. you), but unless the news reaches the general Betfair audience (because what % of the Betfair player pool atm is on top of the news?) AND people actually care about it, I doubt it'll have a massive impact. [/armchairanalysis]


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 20, 2011, 11:14:27 AM
You're assuming you're never going to have a losing week?

If you're paying 40%, 50% or 60% on winning weeks and getting no allowance for a losing week, the numbers will never add up.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 20, 2011, 11:22:37 AM
I fancy another goalfest at London Road this afternoon.

We are starting to revert to type and Ipswich, who are ragged at the moment, are certain to put one or two past us. But we should win this and our games on telly always end up as shootouts.

Although there's no CMS now we are still full of goals and I'm getting on Posh to score 4+ at 11-1, and to score 5+ at 25-1. Fingers crossed Paul Taylor starts this time. Will top up if he does.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on August 20, 2011, 11:35:50 AM
An angle I have always liked is to bet teams in games where it is a big derby for one team but the other team doesn't really care/consider it to be a derby.  Would todays game count?  ie do Posh dislike Ipswich?  Big move for Posh a couple of minutes ago in Asia btw.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: action man on August 20, 2011, 11:42:08 AM
the lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzard


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on August 20, 2011, 11:50:39 AM
Certinly looks that way.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on August 20, 2011, 11:56:43 AM
An angle I have always liked is to bet teams in games where it is a big derby for one team but the other team doesn't really care/consider it to be a derby.  Would todays game count?  ie do Posh dislike Ipswich?  Big move for Posh a couple of minutes ago in Asia btw.


this is certainly correct


smaller teams in local derbies where the bigger team thinks they have a bigger rivalry works a lot


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 20, 2011, 12:50:16 PM
Not espesh. Cambridge used to be our big derby. Also, Cobblers a bit. Lately the main rivalry has been MK Donkeys coz we came through the leagues together.

Poshies are defo off the boards this morning. 4+ with Hills 10-1 > 8-1 > 15-2

Skybet still have 9-1 for 4+ and 28-1 for 5+ but I was limited to £15.67 on the former and £5 something on the latter. Marv.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on August 20, 2011, 06:04:39 PM
WP - Carling cup game between Posh and Boro going to be an absolute goal fest by the looks of things.  Thought at the time of the draw it would be a great overs bet.....like it even more now.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 20, 2011, 06:12:28 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooom!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: action man on August 20, 2011, 06:20:59 PM
oi oi mate. FKin great tipping

manage to get much on?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on August 20, 2011, 06:33:49 PM
VWP Chompy


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 20, 2011, 06:36:25 PM
Yup, tytyty. Just about come down again following that three-goals in four-minutes burst. Ipswich are pretty tez but we are going places again this season. Cover in all positions.

We will never ease up. Double figures anyone?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on August 20, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
You are incred tbf


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on August 20, 2011, 06:52:40 PM
superb stuff, wp


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on August 21, 2011, 12:08:59 AM
For a Posh fan who lives in Ipswich what a dream result. Tried hard to contain myself in a pub full of tractor boys but sod it I couldn't stop myself taking the piss out of them. I somehow managed to get out alive  ;pokergods;

Re: Posh/Ipswich being a local derby, theres no rivalry between the two clubs whatsoever. Infact we kind of like Ipswich. Traditional our rivals were Northampton in the 60's and 70's then bacame Cambridge in the 80's and 90's. However as those two clubs are now pants we don't really care about them other than glad to see them doing so badly. The media has tried to create a rivalry between Posh and the MKDongs but as they are not a proper club and a manufactured franchise like every football fan we don't care for them. We don't really have a derby in the championship largerly because we are traditionally a lower league club. However the two championship clubs we do hate and would love to beat are Leicester and Leeds.

Interesting note re: Posh vs Ipswich, our last 0-0 result was against Ipswich @ PR almost 80 games ago, which also happens to be the last Posh game I've went to. Did wonder if we were due another 0-0 today  :)up


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on August 21, 2011, 12:18:23 AM
Bring on the lizard's boy's next Saturday.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 21, 2011, 12:39:46 AM
A lot of this season is going to come down to timing and when we face who. Be nice to have a Leicester, Watford, Donny, Coventry or Hull away game next weekend but we have to go to fkarking Brighton. Meh, we'll take a 3-3 draw with CMS and Tomlin scoring a hat-trick apiece and move on.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on August 21, 2011, 12:40:13 AM
However the two championship clubs we do hate and would love to beat are Leicester and Leeds.


LOL - Is there a club anywhere that doesn't hate Leeds??  No wonder the can't get back in the Prem every team in the leagues considers them one of the top teams they want to beat.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: action man on August 21, 2011, 01:05:09 AM
LOL at "luckily" getting out of an ipswich ale house unscathed, you could have chanted posh songs all the way through the game and the most you would have received would have been a sausage roll to the back of your head :)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on August 21, 2011, 05:40:22 AM
omg, bbc says Peterboro 90% possession.

Gotta be an all time record for teams in same division surely?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Nico29 on August 21, 2011, 06:08:22 AM
Fmlfmflfmmflfllflfmflklflfllflfmllllllllll!

Get a text early bout this, obv totally forget it.

GG potential 4 fig profit.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 21, 2011, 09:58:30 AM
omg, bbc says Peterboro 90% possession.

Gotta be an all time record for teams in same division surely?

Wouldn't think that's accurate meself. Sky flashed up the second-half possession near the end and it was 75/25 our way. We pwned the first half too but not to the same degree.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on August 23, 2011, 12:12:22 PM
Really tempted to head down to the game tomorrow in the Carling Cup.  Love London Road for so many reasons....first, and only, time I was ever allowed a day off school to go to football was for our quarter final there in like 1990 and last time I went there was only time I have stood at a game in years and it was just like the old days and I just can't see there being less than three goals in this one and could easily see a 4-4 shootout or something like that.  Will Posh play a proper team?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: gatso on August 23, 2011, 12:36:07 PM
Bbc possession figures have been way out this season. Think they have a problem with whatever system they use


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on August 23, 2011, 01:04:54 PM
Re: possession figures Sky showed 65/35 for the first half and as Chompy has already stated 75/25 for the second half. I remember saying to the Ipswich fans that 15% of the second half figure must be for their goalie.

Re: cup fergie has stated that his goal in the cup is to reach the quarters and that he would play a full strenght team. The only changes are possibly Turnicliffe starting and maybe giving the new left back a start. Middlesborough have also stated that they are playing a full strength team.

Chompy, I know you like Tomlin but he's had a slow start to the season. I thought he was poor against Ipswich for the first 40min but then showed his quality with his finishing. Tomlin's even said himself that he's yet to perform this season. I personally would love to see Taylor and Ball in the team. Ball's ratio record is really impressive whilst Taylor has a revelation the last two games and looks real quality.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 23, 2011, 02:23:42 PM
Tomlin is absolute class on a good day but he's inconsistent at the moment, same as Boydy was a couple of seasons ago. He's always gonna be one of the first names on the sheet, though, and that next good spell isn't far off.

Found out what he got fined for, apparently told a copper he 'looked like a tramp' on a drunken night out. LOLZ. He's a bad boy is our Lee. 'Tayls' obv a bit of a lad too. Drugs in the past but different gravy from what I've seen. We've got our own slurry scouser to give Stevie G/Ian Bell-like boring interviews now. And Boydy has had issues too by all accounts. Still the best team we've ever had.

Tomorrow should be quality. Both teams putting out first strings by the sound of it. Won't back us this time though. FerJu said we were going for it in the Carling Cup but we weren't at it v Stevenage. Just a watcher this time.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on August 23, 2011, 02:43:31 PM
The Tomlin incident was during a night out in Nottingham. He was given a 24hr order to leave the town centre but decided to try and get into a night club. It was reported in court that he told the copper to get a proper job and then he could afford a decent car. There were plans to sing "He shoots, he scores, he buys the cops Z4's, Tommmmmmmlin". He needs to cut out the KFC & Nando's but as his best mate NML has decided it's a better career move to stay in Div One on loan warming the bench for others he might not eat out so often. Looks like we like our players to have issues, that's probably why we're trying to sign Coutts again.

Redarmi re: three goals that's a fairly safe bet as we haven't had fewer goals in any of our first 5 games, cue first 0-0 in 80 games.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on August 23, 2011, 03:35:50 PM
The two teams average 4 goals a game in their last 12 games between them and I haven't bothered looking back further but we (Boro) certainly had some high scoring games later on last season after Mogga come on board and Carling Cup games are higher anyway generally.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on August 23, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
You mean Boro or Bro? Only one Boro in the football league imo


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on August 23, 2011, 04:46:35 PM
Ha!!!  When I was a kid and getting the bus into town with my Mum she used to get on the bus and ask for "one and a half to Middlesbro"  More than once the driver said....."I'm going to the Boro love" to great mirth from the other passengers.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on September 14, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
Mahoosive BB bet now in place. Am all over Alex @ 20-1 and 14-1. Laddies have held 14-1 for now. Very good bet at that price imo, or at 12-1.

I know it's still early but most of these can't win and the market is way off for me. The two favourites are both opposable. Alex is Sophie and Josie all over again. Young, inoffensive, funny, likeable, ready to go on a jourrrrrney.

Got some potential bitches among the other girls. Also, it's the same production team as for CH4 and fancy Alex will get a favourable edit as time goes by.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on September 14, 2011, 05:43:47 PM
Shes awful tho, has the face of an 80 year old.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on September 14, 2011, 05:47:12 PM
She does, will work in her favour though. The girly BB voters don't like other girlies to be too pretty. Jade, Nikki, Josie...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on September 14, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
Shes awful tho, has the face of an 80 year old man.
FYP

Followed you on this Chompy. Just watched my first bit of BB since Celeb version ended. Don't see it myself but Josie was a great shout so happy to go again. Faye seemed alright from what I saw.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on September 15, 2011, 06:55:29 AM
hahaha Tashie's reaction to being nominated is com, thats definitely what I would be like.

I can't wait till she goes, she is going to be mortally devastated, will be class.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on September 15, 2011, 10:46:07 PM
I can't wait till she goes, she is going to be mortally devastated, will be class.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on September 16, 2011, 12:21:43 AM
Show going from strength to strength.

General knowledge quiz for BB housemates?

Africa is the nearest planet to the sun?

Gone in again on Alex @ 14-1, market remains upside down imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on September 22, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
Classic BB moment last night. 10m30s in. Best on godzilla furryfox.

http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-brother/episodes/episode-14-142


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on September 22, 2011, 10:04:24 PM
I have had a bet on Aden to win @ 35/1, whilst I think he has very little chance I do think that when rebbekah goes he will shorten right up...

Have I burnt my money?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on September 22, 2011, 11:24:41 PM
I have had a bet on Aden to win @ 35/1, whilst I think he has very little chance I do think that when rebbekah goes he will shorten right up...

Have I burnt my money?

think i've made a terrible mistake...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on September 23, 2011, 12:19:20 AM
Sort of like Aden as a trade at the moment. If only I could. Sigh. There are too many in there whose price will just never crash. And there will be movements next week, with Aaron and Jay still way too short. Also, Louise should be 50+. She is beyond zzzzzzzz.

Alex is now into single figures and I expect her to be pushing for favouritism by next weekend. Might start offloading a bit then, but not much.

Aden is very young and beyond naive but, at the end of it all, he is being himself. That's an attribute that normally leads to a trade imo. Danger is he might switch his attention to Maisy, who could be the one to go next week. As long as he steers clear of Alex I don't care.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on September 27, 2011, 12:08:32 AM
Mahoosive BB bet now in place. Am all over Alex @ 20-1 and 14-1. Laddies have held 14-1 for now. Very good bet at that price imo, or at 12-1.

I know it's still early but most of these can't win and the market is way off for me. The two favourites are both opposable. Alex is Sophie and Josie all over again. Young, inoffensive, funny, likeable, ready to go on a jourrrrrney.

Got some potential bitches among the other girls. Also, it's the same production team as for CH4 and fancy Alex will get a favourable edit as time goes by.

Timberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Now 5/1 best. Still not even thinking about trading though. Heaven goes on Friday for sure. That leaves seven guys, four girls. The other three girls have no chance. Alex ftw.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 04, 2011, 01:15:01 PM
Alex now fav, which is nice. Two more girls up for eviction this week, so gonna be seven guys, three girls left on Friday night. They'll probably bring in two new girls to balance it up but latecomers never win. Still not looking to trade.

Finding it a struggle to keep watching though. Series has become yawnful. CH4 were getting rid at the right time for sure, tired old format now.

Apparently musclebound Geordie moron Jay had a dump in the freezer last week! CH5 haven't shown it or mentioned it so far, which I find amazing. The guy put a TURD in the FREEZER! Amazing.

Anyways, gogogogo Alex!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on October 04, 2011, 11:57:06 PM
You have some mad BB reading skills.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on October 05, 2011, 12:04:07 AM
What has made Mark drift from 4.8 to 9.0!!!

Has he murdered someone??? wtf.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 05, 2011, 12:18:48 AM
What has made Mark drift from 4.8 to 9.0!!!

Has he murdered someone??? wtf.

He's told the house that he is leaving in the morning.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on October 05, 2011, 12:24:23 AM
What has made Mark drift from 4.8 to 9.0!!!

Has he murdered someone??? wtf.

He's told the house that he is leaving in the morning.

ahhhh I see. Thats annoying, he used to be quite funny. Bit boring recently tho!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 05, 2011, 01:14:58 AM
Mark sure is funny. Don't think he's walking though unf. If he goes Aaron goes for sure, although think Aaron leaves anyway. Always fancied he'll walk at some stage. Plllllease leave Mark there's a good lad.

They're dropping like flies, leaving Alex all by herself at the head of the market. MBN!

Canna like believe they're still ganna give Jay a postivie edit like after his turd in freezer, wheelchair gags etc. Guy is a ****.

Alex down to 5-2.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on October 05, 2011, 06:32:50 AM
You've got mad skillz!

Alex was com last night when she was winding up Harry about willy wonka!!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Eso Kral on October 05, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Hi Chompy, we have never met but Celtic tells me your a top fella!!

A question if you dont mind, I have been working on something but need some historical data on certain markets from Betfair  ie prices and amounts matched going back over a few years. Is that info available and if so how do i get it??

TY in advance.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 05, 2011, 11:14:36 AM
Mark has left the building.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 05, 2011, 12:31:40 PM
Oops, epic readz of the Mark situation by me there, wpwpwp. All good though. On tilt that Jay's price is still so short.

Not sure Betty keep that sort of historical data Eso. Have you tried calling the 'help' desk? Probably your best bet. They can break down career betting history for sure but dunoo about other stuff. <<<[  ] useful


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: doubleup on October 05, 2011, 12:33:41 PM
Hi Chompy, we have never met but Celtic tells me your a top fella!!

A question if you dont mind, I have been working on something but need some historical data on certain markets from Betfair  ie prices and amounts matched going back over a few years. Is that info available and if so how do i get it??

TY in advance.

you could try this but some of the files are 100k+ in lines so you need an up to date excel to work with them

http://data.betfair.com/#null





Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Eso Kral on October 05, 2011, 01:37:07 PM
Hi Chompy, we have never met but Celtic tells me your a top fella!!

A question if you dont mind, I have been working on something but need some historical data on certain markets from Betfair  ie prices and amounts matched going back over a few years. Is that info available and if so how do i get it??

TY in advance.

you could try this but some of the files are 100k+ in lines so you need an up to date excel to work with them

http://data.betfair.com/#null




Thx Chompy and doubleup


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2011, 03:56:38 PM
Hi Chompy, we have never met but Celtic tells me your a top fella!!

incred misinfo


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Eso Kral on October 05, 2011, 03:59:43 PM
Hi Chompy, we have never met but Celtic tells me your a top fella!!

incred misinfo
I know but he would never have replied otherwise  :P


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 05, 2011, 04:05:06 PM
Obv bluff but paid you off anyway


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on October 05, 2011, 04:47:17 PM
Obv bluff but paid you off anyway

unlike you..


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on October 05, 2011, 06:55:11 PM
Hi Chompy, we have never met but Celtic tells me your a top fella!!

A question if you dont mind, I have been working on something but need some historical data on certain markets from Betfair  ie prices and amounts matched going back over a few years. Is that info available and if so how do i get it??

TY in advance.

They do keep it and will sell it to you but it is pretty expensive from what i can recall.  I was looking at getting it for something I was doing once and we were talking a five figure sum for what I needed I think.

Edit - just read doubleups post....I think it was fracsoft I was referred to.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Eso Kral on October 05, 2011, 08:35:28 PM
Hi Chompy, we have never met but Celtic tells me your a top fella!!

A question if you dont mind, I have been working on something but need some historical data on certain markets from Betfair  ie prices and amounts matched going back over a few years. Is that info available and if so how do i get it??

TY in advance.

They do keep it and will sell it to you but it is pretty expensive from what i can recall.  I was looking at getting it for something I was doing once and we were talking a five figure sum for what I needed I think.

Edit - just read doubleups post....I think it was fracsoft I was referred to.
TY Red i shall check the fracsoft stuff and link once i have a bit of time.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: claypole on October 06, 2011, 01:54:10 PM
You're too good"...haven't watched Big Brother, but was messing around on odds checker last night and saw the BB banner, looked atbthe Market and thought is that 2/1 shot who Chompy recommended.....course it is. Good work, gutted didn't get on.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 06, 2011, 06:38:42 PM
Aah, Alex, you are so incred. It's a series of clips like this that will lead you to winnersville (28mins in).

http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-brother/episodes/episode-29-59

Bit of background. Alex is very dim but she knows it and has fun with it. This is top comedy work imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: boldie on October 07, 2011, 08:35:10 AM
Aah, Alex, you are so incred. It's a series of clips like this that will lead you to winnersville (28mins in).

http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-brother/episodes/episode-29-59

Bit of background. Alex is very dim but she knows it and has fun with it. This is top comedy work imo.

rotflmfao I have never watched BB but that's hilarious.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 07, 2011, 01:29:35 PM
I can't see clips at the moment as laptop is playing up but assume it's the Willy Wonka chat.

Alex is a good shout especially now Mark has walked. Reasonable backing for Aaron but he could also walk or implode at anytime. Bit of a concern that Jay is C5's chosen one and gets more coverage than Alex. He also has massive support from the tweeniew on facebook and twitter. Personally I think Jay should have been kicked out after the freezer incident which C5 have conveniently ignored. Also thought Jay was a complete arse last night over the shopping list, you would have thought a gorilla like him would be happy with all those bananas.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 07, 2011, 02:36:30 PM
Jay will blow his chances at some point. Think he's only getting so much coverage because he's the only remaining chance of a BB romance with Louizzzzzze.

I have Alex as my big winner and Aaron'n'Harry onside. Happy to pay if anyone else happens to win.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 07, 2011, 06:51:54 PM
Jay will blow his chances at some point.

Depends if C5 decide to show it as they didn't show the freezer incident which should have got him ejected from the house.

I picked Alex, Mark and Aaron after the first week. Did think there was money to be made on Heaven beating Aden and was pipped by .5%. This result highlighted that the tweenies have even more influence than normal due to cheap multi voting on facebook.

On the Posh front I hope you didn't lump to much on Tomlin to be top scorer & I'm glad we've got our Ball back from Rochdale.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Claw75 on October 07, 2011, 06:54:17 PM
are you going to be doing any x-factor bettage chompybear?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 07, 2011, 07:44:57 PM
Dunooo yet, would never touch it before the first live show. Not had a bet on it since Joe McElderry's year. Just see what comes along innit.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on October 08, 2011, 10:24:19 PM
Alex was such an incred call - i love her!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 13, 2011, 02:26:35 AM
Odds on now. Even if I could trade out I don't think I would. Certainly not this side of 1.5. Easy trade out now for anyone else that backed her though.

Still about a month to go and all looking good. Expecting more cheers for Aaron at tomorrow night's eviction so might have a bit more on him at 6/1 if I can find some.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on October 13, 2011, 02:05:36 PM
She's the only one I've backed in the comp. Should I lay off or just back somebody else (Aaron) to win it?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 13, 2011, 04:06:29 PM
Your call Jose.

Aaron and Harry might nick votes off each other if they both stay to the end, which could well happen.

Alex is still shortening up. Think someone got in way too deep laying at big prices early in a paper-thin market and he's now trying to bail at short prices. He wanted £10k at 2.5 yesterday and £10k at 2 earlier today.

I guess it's possible to argue she's falsely short at the moment, so wouldn't put you off just laying at 1.85 to green things up.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on October 17, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
do you think that aaron has blown it?  if it wasnt for the lack of competition I very much doubt he would be this short.  to me he seems like a total dick.

I laid him at 4.5 and just can't see him getting anywhere near first place.  is he playing a game or would he actually walk?

Wish Mark had stayed in.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on October 17, 2011, 09:52:46 PM
I laid Alex the other day at 1.8 for about a third of my potential winnings. Still want a bit of a sweat.
Great tip though Chompy. Thanks


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 17, 2011, 10:08:10 PM
Np Jose. Me, you and Scotty will have to have a BB party to celebrate.

Just been watching last night's episode. Aaron is shot. Gone. He has been pure comedy for the first month but has now hit the wall. Be surprised if he sees it out now. Four weeks doesn't sound a long time but he's split himself from the group and is finished imo.

Anyone and everyone that looks a danger to Alex's crown goes and shoots themselves in the foot.  :)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 17, 2011, 10:10:55 PM
Something going on tonight. Fake cheers been pumped into the house since half eightish.

Marcus Bentley twittered:

Nominations revealed & a massive twist on BBBOTS ! And on BIG BROTHER perhaps the sweetest moment ever? I'll let you decide at 10 on FIVE!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on October 18, 2011, 09:57:08 PM
whats going on alex seems to be on the drift?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 18, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
Ignore it, it's just a few betty forum guessers speculating that there's an eviction twist coming that's gonna see Aaron v Alex on Friday. They lead themselves down some weird paths sometimes.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on October 18, 2011, 10:27:56 PM
Ignore it, it's just a few betty forum guessers speculating that there's an eviction twist coming that's gonna see Aaron v Alex on Friday. They lead themselves down some weird paths sometimes.

i havent backed her but want her to win now... for my forum buddies.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 19, 2011, 10:49:57 AM
Leeds ticket arrived. Boom! Please just a nice boring lunchtime kickabout on Saturday. Canna take much more of this.

Missed one last night. Said to Celtic on facebook yesterday the Poshy v Cardiff match could be any score. Top two teams in the Championship in the shots on target category and plenty of recent goal history (we came back from 4-0 down at half-time to nick a 4-4 two seasons ago in the same fixture). Meh.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 19, 2011, 03:19:19 PM
Just heard we have sold out. Scum have apparently still have 1000 left. Some great results in the last few weeks, especially the extra-time winners against Pompey and Cardiff. Shame about the Doncester result, we would be in an automatic promotion spot if we won that game, LOL. Nevermind that will happen Saturday, at least for a few hours, due to our early kickoff.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on October 19, 2011, 03:39:09 PM
Ignore it, it's just a few betty forum guessers speculating that there's an eviction twist coming that's gonna see Aaron v Alex on Friday. They lead themselves down some weird paths sometimes.

Never really bet on these things myself.  Actually having to watch them would be way too life tilting but this post made me remember DJ Sunset on Betfair forums.  Any idea what happened to him.  Was he really as good a judge on these things as he made out or was it all just his own  PR?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Dubai on October 19, 2011, 03:42:21 PM
PR- hence why he bought that golden ticket- ran way above expectation punting, variance


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on October 19, 2011, 05:32:30 PM
Yeah certainly seems to have disappeared.  Gone from being on BBC/Sky on any gambling related story to nothing for four or five years.  Pics and videos of him always tilted me so prob for best.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on October 19, 2011, 08:01:31 PM
I've got my ticket for Saturday too, big bunch of us off in the Terrace, £20, not bad at all.

What are you thinking? Surely as free as goalscoring is at your gaff, the 4/9 on over 2.5 is a bit ridiciolous, our defence has shored up now.

I think it will be close even tho we've struggled at smaller grounds in recent season (losses at Cheltenham, Exeter, Walsall etc.)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on October 19, 2011, 08:33:38 PM
I've got my ticket for Saturday too, big bunch of us off in the Terrace, £20, not bad at all.

What are you thinking? Surely as free as goalscoring is at your gaff, the 4/9 on over 2.5 is a bit ridiciolous, our defence has shored up now.

I think it will be close even tho we've struggled at smaller grounds in recent season (losses at Cheltenham, Exeter, Walsall etc.)

we do struggle against the small clubs...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 19, 2011, 10:25:48 PM
Early kick-offs, love'em!

In our case it's always against the supposed bigger fish like Leeds and Leicester and we are always up for it. Just turn up and enjoy the ride as always at London Road. Won't be boring, never is. Gogogo Poshies!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on October 19, 2011, 10:31:28 PM
That terrace at London Road is as much fun as you can have as a football fan these days especially when it is full.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 19, 2011, 10:35:06 PM
That terrace at London Road is as much fun as you can have as a football fan these days especially when it is full.

It really is. Great these days, better than ever. Ten years ago if there was a goal I'd get knocked over in the surge forward but now it's a great advert for standing areas. Atmosphere is amazing.

Adrian Durham was on the radio today saying he doesn't want us getting promoted to the Prem. Very unlikely to happen obv but sort of agree. If we go up it's bye bye London Road. And that would be so bad.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 21, 2011, 10:13:28 PM
Horrible misread by me earlier in the week re: Aaron. It's a two-horse race now, with absolutely no other possible winner imo, and this weekend will largely be taken up by trying to get as much as I can on at 5/2.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 22, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
F*** you Tomlin


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 22, 2011, 02:42:09 PM
F*** you Stroud


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on October 22, 2011, 02:42:52 PM
:)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 22, 2011, 03:17:42 PM
Fergie: "I heard the linesman say that its time up but he got 2 minuts from somewhere but its Leeds United so it will be ok"



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on October 22, 2011, 06:18:35 PM
Great game, exciting. Nice little stadium.

Zakauni looks a quality player, didn't lose a challenge all day and at times was doing all the defending by himself with success.

Was really disappointed from the lack of noise from the Peterborogh fans tho, was expecting a cracking atmosphere but they only sung about 2 songs all match and they were both very quiet.

I didn't really think it was a red card, from were I was stood he looked to go in high with studs showing but not 2 footed so expected a yellow tbh. Guess we will have a better viewpoint on the football league show tonight.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 22, 2011, 06:26:35 PM
It was noisy enough but not max volume. Never is for early kick-offs. Sound tends not to travel from one end to the other at our place. We couldn't hear you lot either.

Zak is outstanding when he's fit. Bennett just got an England U21 call-up too and gets better all the time. Think we'll both be around the play-off spots come the end.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 23, 2011, 09:15:32 PM
Having watched the hightlights Tomlin had to go. What a muppet of a challenge especially with Stroud being the ref. Posh will have talked about the ref just before the game as he has sent of 4 Posh players in the last 5 games and 3 of those were in the first half. Great spirit shown from the lads and deserved a point but having had the extra-time rub in two games we can't moan to much. However 4 minutes shown and Leeds score in the 96th minute which is a bit annoying. Decent case for saying O'Dea shouldn't have been on the pitch to score the winner.

Hopefully Taylor will get a run for a few games and Tomlin has to wait to get another opportunity. I would also like Ball to replace Sinclair but that won't happen. Also wonder what Turnicliffe has to do to get into the starting lineup.



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Acidmouse on October 23, 2011, 09:44:37 PM
O'Deas tackle was at max yellow, it was marginal if that. It was only becasue of the sending off and boro wanting it evening up that it was an issue. Also we gave you the 2nd goal it was like park defending we had a few chances to get rid and didnt. When the say 4mins injury time its min. amount to be played, becasue your conceded so late and fergie having a hissy fit covers over Leeds deserved the win, scored the better goals and the away fans pwned the home fans for noise..i would say a good day.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 23, 2011, 10:18:58 PM
O'Deas tackle was at max yellow, it was marginal if that. It was only becasue of the sending off and boro wanting it evening up that it was an issue. Also we gave you the 2nd goal it was like park defending we had a few chances to get rid and didnt. When the say 4mins injury time its min. amount to be played, becasue your conceded so late and fergie having a hissy fit covers over Leeds deserved the win, scored the better goals and the away fans pwned the home fans for noise..i would say a good day.

Ah, the great Leeds fans. Does that include the ones who refuse to purchase via the club because of the Leeds membership fee and instead buy directly from the away club to sit in the family areas shouting the C word repeatably that many dad's decided to leave early because their children were upset and scared. Does that include the Leeds fans who spat at the home fans in the family enclose. Yeah you pwned us bigtime.

It was very kind of your wonderful "Big club" to give us the 2nd goal. Indeed Leeds where mighty impressive to beat out "small club" and really dominated our 10 men, I guess you were just so generous that you wanted to keep the game interesting.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 23, 2011, 10:19:09 PM
^^^ LOLZ, get this biased Leeeeeeeds nonsense off my diary!

Sinclair and Tayls ftw v Watford next weekend. Won't be a draw, as we don't do draws, esp 0-0. Let's go for 5-2 away win.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on October 23, 2011, 10:23:08 PM
It's now 88 games since we have had a 0-0 draw and something like 10 games since our last score draw. I agree it will be Sinclair and Taylor to start. What do you make of Sinclair and if Tomlin was available would you play Sinclair or Taylor ?. Any win against Watford will do as November looks a tough month.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 23, 2011, 11:42:51 PM
Belief is growing all the time. We should have got something out of the away games at Blackpool and West Ham earlier in the season but didn't believe. That's changing. This is a play-off calibre team as long as we steer clear of injuries imo.

Still undecided about Sinclair at the moment. We'll know more in a month I think. Taylor deserves his chance and he'll grab it next weekend imo. If Tomlin was available I'd go Tomlin and Taylor all day long. Should be perfect together.

Surprised Tunnicliffe hasn't been an ever present but who to leave out? Frecklington clear player of the season so far, Boyd and McCann in obv. Rowe and Alcock work well together left side. Love Alcock's attitude. He's probably still the weak link in the back four but is further down the line than Little was at this stage of his Poshy career.

Gogogo the mighty Posh. Massive over-achievers. Best team we've ever had by a distance. Great times.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on October 24, 2011, 12:53:41 AM
lol story checks out on Acidmouse giving out comedy biased banter.

I didn't think we played that well. Without Snodgrass we really lacked creativity and massively struggled to break through 10 men. Our defending is so paperweight too for both the Posh goals, its embarrassing.

Can't believe Chompy said they couldn't hear us at the other end tho, I lost my voice by about the 10 minute mark and the scenes at the end were epic, I ended up with some fat bloke crushing me against the barriers, my back still kills now.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Acidmouse on October 24, 2011, 07:07:35 AM
it worked :) they went off on Camel'esk Leeds thug rant lol.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 24, 2011, 08:47:48 AM
Sigh, owned by dirty Leeds again.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on October 30, 2011, 12:51:38 AM
Urgh, not proud of myself for even suggesting this but 7/1 about the mighty Posh getting relegated is too big given the month we have coming up. Value is value and all that.

We've been lucky with injuries for a couple of seasons but, if we suddenly pick up a couple, there is zero strength in depth. And we still can't defend.

In November, we have...

Southampton (A)
Derby (H)
Birmingham (A)
Middlesbrough (H)
Reading (A)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on November 03, 2011, 09:18:30 AM
Not been watching BB recently but market seems to have moved for alex and against aaron. Any reason for it?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on November 03, 2011, 05:35:56 PM
Not been watching BB recently but market seems to have moved for alex and against aaron. Any reason for it?

Yeah Aaron is being a nobhead, gf's words not mine lol.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on November 03, 2011, 06:17:29 PM
Yup, Aaron is cracking up and needs to gtfo of there imo. But he went in with a gameplan and will stick it out to the end. He's on fumes now but has never been below 40% in TV polls and is still walking it if you believe them.

I have him onside with Alex as my big winner obv. If Jay McFreezer-Turd wins I'll pay. And emigrate.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on November 04, 2011, 08:09:36 PM
backed faye to go tonight... if it was vote to evict she would defo be gone IMO.

GTFO faye... youre v.annoying


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on November 04, 2011, 08:19:48 PM
Think Tom has a shot here, 40 on Bf outright. 12 for top male.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on November 04, 2011, 08:56:29 PM
I knew I wasn't the only one watching

Not about to put up a 1/40 lay here but Tom's a no channer. Alex takes all the votes from the Tom/Alex combo. Maybe better off with top male @ 12s imo.

Late market moves on Betty suggest Louizzzzzzz is for the chop tonight. Good.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on November 04, 2011, 09:06:57 PM
I knew I wasn't the only one watching

Not about to put up a 1/40 lay here but Tom's a no channer. Alex takes all the votes from the Tom/Alex combo. Maybe better off with top male @ 12s imo.

Late market moves on Betty suggest Louizzzzzzz is for the chop tonight. Good.
I hope your wrong... I hate stupid Faye.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on November 04, 2011, 09:12:02 PM
I knew I wasn't the only one watching

Not about to put up a 1/40 lay here but Tom's a no channer. Alex takes all the votes from the Tom/Alex combo. Maybe better off with top male @ 12s imo.

Late market moves on Betty suggest Louizzzzzzz is for the chop tonight. Good.
I hope your wrong... I hate stupid Faye.

whats going on with the inplay market!?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: pokerfan on November 04, 2011, 09:14:09 PM
I knew I wasn't the only one watching

Not about to put up a 1/40 lay here but Tom's a no channer. Alex takes all the votes from the Tom/Alex combo. Maybe better off with top male @ 12s imo.

Late market moves on Betty suggest Louizzzzzzz is for the chop tonight. Good.
I hope your wrong... I hate stupid Faye.

Faye gets the sympathy vote.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on November 04, 2011, 09:20:11 PM
Cancel earlier statment, Louizzzzzz gone from 1.6 to 2.6 in 15mins.

[  ] not insider knowledge


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on November 04, 2011, 09:21:21 PM
Cancel earlier statment, Louizzzzzz gone from 1.6 to 2.6 in 15mins.

[  ] not insider knowledge

if its insider stuff why are they betting so small?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on November 04, 2011, 09:35:08 PM
No liquidity. Lots of debate about whether it is or not but were some weird moves surrounding Harry last week.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on November 04, 2011, 09:41:57 PM
No liquidity. Lots of debate about whether it is or not but were some weird moves surrounding Harry last week.

I'm not watching the show but have been watching the market, very interesting to watch.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Simon Galloway on November 04, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
I'm not watching the show but have been watching the market, very interesting to watch.

Far more interesting than the show for sure.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on November 04, 2011, 10:15:09 PM
backed faye to go tonight... if it was vote to evict she would defo be gone IMO.

GTFO faye... youre v.annoying

oioi


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on November 09, 2011, 04:22:28 PM
I have a question. Say, for example, a friend of mine wanted to do something really sad on Friday like skip the Venetian deepstack and watch Big Brother from here coz he's had some rather lumpy bets? I'm clueless with this internet TV stuff. Would he be able to watch?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on November 09, 2011, 04:39:33 PM
I have a question. Say, for example, a friend of mine wanted to do something really sad on Friday like skip the Venetian deepstack and watch Big Brother from here coz he's had some rather lumpy bets? I'm clueless with this internet TV stuff. Would he be able to watch?

I'd expect geo blocking means he might not be able to.

Just try it out and if you can watch it now then it should be fine on friday for he to watch.



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on November 09, 2011, 04:40:11 PM
I have a question. Say, for example, a friend of mine wanted to do something really sad on Friday like skip the Venetian deepstack and watch Big Brother from here coz he's had some rather lumpy bets? I'm clueless with this internet TV stuff. Would he be able to watch?

Saddo.

See you a bit later, I expect big things of you this trip.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: ACE2M on November 09, 2011, 04:45:21 PM
I have a question. Say, for example, a friend of mine wanted to do something really sad on Friday like skip the Venetian deepstack and watch Big Brother from here coz he's had some rather lumpy bets? I'm clueless with this internet TV stuff. Would he be able to watch?

I'd expect geo blocking means he might not be able to.

Just try it out and if you can watch it now then it should be fine on friday for he to watch.



you might be after links i suppose so this might not answer your question. Not sure channel 5 screen live on the interweb like itv, bbc etc.

I'm sure its probably available somewhere.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on November 09, 2011, 07:04:29 PM
You would need to invest in something like this www.uktelevision.tv that masks your ip and makes it look like you are accessing frm the UK...regular free methods haven't worked when I have tried them in the States but a monthly sub to that service costs about $8 I think so it isn't bad but obviously not as good value if you only want to watch one programme one time.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on November 11, 2011, 05:10:05 PM
Huge Huge move for Aaron, 3.8 into 2.4.

Can he go off fav?

Hes got my vote anyway, deserves to win.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on November 11, 2011, 05:21:52 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooo this sort of move has got to be decent info hasn't it?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on November 11, 2011, 07:53:37 PM
Duno, hes gone back to 3.1 now. They can't decide.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on November 11, 2011, 09:45:09 PM
Alex 3rd

Still a great money maker. Ta Chompy.

Crossing my fingers for Aaron for you.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on November 11, 2011, 09:48:22 PM
wow sick. Same as the celeb one.

Cmon then Aaron!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on November 11, 2011, 10:00:15 PM
Lol Heads Up Jay has come in from an initial 3.75 to 1.78 favourite.

Insane


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on November 11, 2011, 10:06:17 PM
I guess that result has saved Chompy a Greece style financial crisis.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Horneris on November 11, 2011, 10:07:41 PM
BOOM AARON!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on November 12, 2011, 12:06:17 AM
Fk me that was stressful. Sat in a golf club eating lunch waiting for results to come by text.

"Louise fourth"...Obv

Then "Shit, Alex third, not joking, dammit"

Sweat for half an hour.

"Aaron winner"

Phew. Would have mega-flounced out the club and walked ten miles back to The Strip if that turd-freezing neanderthal had won. Trust the British public to get these things right in the end. Ish.

Facebook voting @ 7p a pop had a huge say on the outcome here and that's all that stopped Alex winning imo. Had this been a CH4 series with the old-style phone voting only at 36p a go, we'd have got the right result for sure.

Happy enough to see Aaron TID though. Alex would have been a best ever BB win but happy with the way I played it all, so no complaints.

Aaron was the star of the series tbf and he reminds me so much of myself at his age it's scary. Just shows the power of the Facebook vote now. X Factor players  beware.

If Jay had won I wouldn't have ever bet on a reality show again.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on November 18, 2011, 12:45:06 AM
Done lots of BB thinking on the flight back after watching Kramer v Kramer for the first time ever. Quality flick that.

I reckon time might show this was a coup pulled off by Aaron and a bunch of mates.

He was always going to be a channer coz of his laid-back manner and GSOH.

On top of that he played a quality game

On-off will they-won't they relationship in the house...check
Stick doggedly to morals come what may...check

And, most tellingly, during the series he admitted to having put £600 on Rhydian to win X Factor a few years ago, so I suspect he's a bit of a novelty markets player himself.

Good luck to him if he's had it right off on top of the £100k for winning the show. Big money in comparison to 7p a vote on a show nobody watches any more.

Celtic, get yo ass in the BB house next summer please. We'll get'em.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: luther101 on November 20, 2011, 11:34:27 AM
So this is where you've hidden your diary    ...      in the Salford Quays of marinas.

That missed call whilst you were out in Vegas    .....       I wasn't trying to contact you - it was so when all the others' phones were ringing ten to the dozen, the abject silence of the 3g next to your crotch didn't make you a (bigger) laughing stock.

I wuz gonna get Drainy to pester you, but I don't think he luvs me anymore!

Now be honest, how much did the big titted brass charge you in Vegas - and are Celtic's claims that she charged double to be rodgered whilst you wore your 'Boro shirt and Nike sandles true?



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on November 20, 2011, 11:41:04 AM
Fk me that was stressful. Sat in a golf club eating lunch waiting for results to come by text.

"Louise fourth"...Obv

Then "Shit, Alex third, not joking, dammit"

Sweat for half an hour.

"Aaron winner"

Phew. Would have mega-flounced out the club and walked ten miles back to The Strip if that turd-freezing neanderthal had won. Trust the British public to get these things right in the end. Ish.

Facebook voting @ 7p a pop had a huge say on the outcome here and that's all that stopped Alex winning imo. Had this been a CH4 series with the old-style phone voting only at 36p a go, we'd have got the right result for sure.

Happy enough to see Aaron TID though. Alex would have been a best ever BB win but happy with the way I played it all, so no complaints.

Aaron was the star of the series tbf and he reminds me so much of myself at his age it's scary. Just shows the power of the Facebook vote now. X Factor players  beware.

If Jay had won I wouldn't have ever bet on a reality show again.


Was total com sitting with u in that Vegas golf club house doing ur Best tourettes impression at the BB results...all those snobby yanks in the bar sighing and tutting at u... Epic... Buddy ur a HOOT !


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 03, 2012, 01:14:48 PM

Get this Diary kick-started, Chomps, we need the inside line on Prancing on Rice.

Former Brookside star Jennifer Ellison has been installed as Sky Bet’s 5/2 favourite to win Dancing On Ice after the line-up for the 2012 edition of the show was announced on Monday.

Ellison will partner Dan Whiston and will be aiming to become the latest soap star to win the competition following in the footsteps of Suzanne Shaw, Hayley Tamaddon and 2011 winner Sam Attawater.

The early money has all been for Emmerdale actor Matthew Wolfenden, who plays David Metcalfe in the series, and he has moved to 5/1 (from 12/1) second favourite in the online betting firm’s Dancing on Ice odds.

Former Sugababe Heidi Range is 6/1 to win the pro-celebrity contest with her partner Sylvain Longchambon and British skier Chemmy Alcott is 7/1 to add victory in another winter sport to her impressive domestic record.

Other contestants involved include former Blue Peter presenter Andy Akinwoiere (8/1), Coronation Street favourite Andy Whyment (9/1), as well as film star Corey Feldman (16/1), fitness guru Rosemary Conley and ex-Dallas actress Charlene Tilton (40/1).

Sky Bet PR manager Helen Jacon said: “Jennifer is the early favourite as she has danced from an early age and could have become a ballet star if it wasn’t for her acting career.

“She will have natural balance and flexibility, but second favourite Matthew Wolfenden will also have an advantage over the field as he was a former gymnast.

“Both of them also have experienced partners that will stand them in good stead in the competition.”

Sky Bet ‘s Dancing On Ice 2012 outright: http://www.skybet.com/betting/tv-and-film-specials/dancing-on-ice/dancing-on-ice-winner/e13620023.html


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2012, 01:17:31 PM
Shameless, absolutely shameless.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on January 03, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Shameless, absolutely shameless.

shameless posts belong on this thread as its owner has had his shame chip removed...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 03, 2012, 01:29:35 PM
What's going on here please?

Dancing On Shite no interest to me I'm afraid. Celeb BB is back this month though, will resume posting for my four readers in due course.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 03, 2012, 02:29:08 PM
What's going on here please?

Dancing On Shite no interest to me I'm afraid. Celeb BB is back this month though, will resume posting for my four readers in due course.

There are three others?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on January 03, 2012, 03:00:47 PM
Urgh, not proud of myself for even suggesting this but 7/1 about the mighty Posh getting relegated is too big given the month we have coming up. Value is value and all that.

We've been lucky with injuries for a couple of seasons but, if we suddenly pick up a couple, there is zero strength in depth. And we still can't defend.


JUDAS









Hope you didn't lump on this to big.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 03, 2012, 03:04:16 PM
Sigh, poor call. Gotta have faith. Gabby Zak IS the second coming.

No more Posh betting for me from now on, just enjoy the ride.

*hangs head in shame*


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on January 03, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
To be fair I can see why you were tempted by the bet, I just can't under any circumstances bet against the mighty Posh but that's because I'm ruled by my heart rather than my head when it comes to the Posh. I continue to be amazed at this season as even with the team down to it's bare bones it continues to produce results against much bigger clubs. Just wonder if we can continue to keep hold of our prized assists. I'm even now getting to the stage where I think we will be safe the season having assumed we would repeat our previous disastrous Championship campaign.

Re: Big Brother, it must be a Posh thing as I also love this market. I have done well in the normal BB having picked the winners early on in most series including Aaron and the unlikey Rachel Rice but not so well in the celeb verison. I was sure Jedward would win the last serious rather than Paddy. For the first time I'm actually going to wait for the first night to see who's going in. Suspect I my have to google some of these "so called" celebs.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 05, 2012, 02:58:48 PM
Celeb Big Bro starts TONIGHT! That crept up on me. Don't know half the names in Paddy Power's list but like of the look of James Argent @ 9/1 if he goes in.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 08, 2012, 07:02:51 PM
Outclassed by the Mackems tbf, they were pretty incred and stopped us playing second half. Thought taking Wootton off was a big mistake. MOTM first half.

Plenty of long-term positives from this though, Diceman, I feel.

Jones >>>>>> Lewis. Not sure today will help get Joe sold.

If any game proved Sinclair isn't up to it and never will be it was today. He needs to gtfo. Daragh there to see the shambles too. Guess we're not going to get Simon Cox after his three for WBA yesterday but we need someone like that alongside Taylor.

Defence is no problem now. Alcock has come on a huge amount.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on January 10, 2012, 10:20:33 PM
Any cbb updates?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 10, 2012, 10:43:44 PM
Picture of your league trophy on your sideboard please.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 11, 2012, 01:04:49 PM
CBB is right back to its best this series and the potential to get better. Andrew Stone is unbelievably deluded and the rest aren't gonna put up with him for much longer. Assuming he isn't kicked out tonight.

Michael Madsden is a bit of a gruff Larry Sanders but is becoming a bit of a BB legend.

No bets for me and won't be having one either. Not sure Natalie deserves to be clear favourite though.

Alice Levine >>> Emma Willis


Trophy still kidnapped by a bad loser unf.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: scotty2hatty on January 11, 2012, 07:37:41 PM
Gareth Thomas


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: redarmi on January 11, 2012, 07:48:25 PM
CBB is right back to its best this series and the potential to get better. Andrew Stone is unbelievably deluded and the rest aren't gonna put up with him for much longer. Assuming he isn't kicked out tonight.

Michael Madsden is a bit of a gruff Larry Sanders but is becoming a bit of a BB legend.

No bets for me and won't be having one either. Not sure Natalie deserves to be clear favourite though.

Alice Levine >>> Emma Willis


Trophy still kidnapped by a bad loser unf.

Guess this is why I have never been able to win on these things.  Was somewhere where it was on yesterday and thought surely either Natalie or Denise Welch are certainties and this emo looking fool that is nominated must be the biggest certainty ever to go.  Shows what I know!!!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: sovietsong on January 11, 2012, 09:37:01 PM
Hate Natasha. I'm catching up after missing the first few... She is a horrible horrible person.

That gay guy from pineapple dance studio is comedy. He will be out soon but so funny to listen to his bullshit!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 12, 2012, 12:44:50 AM
Andrew Stone is not gay. Keeps telling everyone. Straight iho (nap)

OMG, Stone got the boot tonight instead of the dull Irish bird. Ruined the early part of the series imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 12, 2012, 06:34:44 AM

League Trophy cliffs, please.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 12, 2012, 10:10:25 AM
Today is the 12th day that I should have been able to hold my trophy...but it's still not been handed over by the previous winner.

With the league no longer running, I plan on trying to sell it on ebay or somewhere as soon as Spangles hands it over. Cost me the best part of a hundo that.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on January 12, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
Today is the 12th day that I should have been able to hold my trophy...but it's still not been handed over by the previous winner.

With the league no longer running, I plan on trying to sell it on ebay or somewhere as soon as Spangles hands it over. Cost me the best part of a hundo that.

Thought I bunged in half? In which case, it is also MY Trophy he has nicked.

Outrageous.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 20, 2012, 09:43:34 PM
Note to self...ignore eviction-night crowds...trust online polls COMPLETELY. Online polls are massively accurate now re: BB.

Celtic still wins 2012 series though whatever. End of.

Who do you want to SAVE and Stay in Celeb Big Brother?   
         
  Frankie Cocozza 14% █████████████   
  Denise Welch 14% █████████████   
  Michael Masden 25% █████████████████████████   
  Natalie Cassidy 16% ███████████████   
  Kirk Norcross 1% █   
  Kristina & Karissa Shannon 15% ██████████████   
  Nicola McLean 5% ████   
  Romeo 13% ████████████   
    100%

Kirk first out tonight. Madsen is around 13/2 at the mo. Has to be value imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on January 22, 2012, 09:45:13 PM
Outclassed by the Mackems tbf, they were pretty incred and stopped us playing second half. Thought taking Wootton off was a big mistake. MOTM first half.

Plenty of long-term positives from this though, Diceman, I feel.

Jones >>>>>> Lewis. Not sure today will help get Joe sold.

If any game proved Sinclair isn't up to it and never will be it was today. He needs to gtfo. Daragh there to see the shambles too. Guess we're not going to get Simon Cox after his three for WBA yesterday but we need someone like that alongside Taylor.

Defence is no problem now. Alcock has come on a huge amount.

How disappointing this game was especially considering it was the first time many would have seen the Posh play. We were truely awful and couldn't string a couple of passes together. Interesting you rated Wootton as motm as I thought he was guilty of giving the ball away far to often. Turnicliffe wasn't much better. I understand we have an option to buy Wootton and have stated he would be a good purchase for a few hundred thousand based on has previous displays. Sinclair is an interesting one, decent strike rate after a big leap in class but he looks scared of the ball which isn't a good quality for a footballer. Talking of quality I hope Taylor signs the new contract offer. Having said that I would hate to play as his strike partner until he learns to pass my often. Glad Ball has returned, not so fussed about Ajose.

Recent performances have shown us up for the small club we are as we have massively missed McCann, Fecks and Little. Positives are they are all back as of next week or two and that Feb, March and April have some much needed winnerable games.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on January 22, 2012, 09:59:58 PM
Note to self...ignore eviction-night crowds...trust online polls COMPLETELY. Online polls are massively accurate now re: BB  

Cheap facebook votes have massively changed this market. I based my Aaron bet based on early forum polls against the popular Jay campaigns and shipped in eviction crowds.

This CBB has been difficult to call and it was interesting that first night favourites Kirk and Natalie got the boot on Friday. I've gone for nice guy Romero due to teeny votes but he may suffer from a lack of exposure. Also otside punt on Michael (e/w). Americans tend to not do well in CBB but there is no strong favourite among the Brits. The Loose Women crowd my campaign for Denise, as they have a history of begging for votes but it is unsure how the audience have taken to her bizzare inhouse behaviour. Has she been vunerable or crazy ???, guess we will find out Friday.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 22, 2012, 11:16:32 PM
Gareth is now a ridic price at around 2. This market still underestimates the unpredictability of the way voting has been going since the switch to CH5 and way too early for inside info on how voting is going imo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on January 23, 2012, 04:19:06 PM
Gareth's price is ridic and suspect it is largely based on the fact all evicted housemates have stated Gareth for the win. Personally I think this will go against him as BB voters don't like to be told how to vote.

Breaking news re: Posh Wootton has appartently returned to Man U. We must surely have a signing lined up to cover this, maybe Kane Ferdinand from Southend ???


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 23, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
Fergie obv doesn't like Wootton.

Kane Ferdinand would be fine, yes please.

Saturday starting line up should imo be...

Jones; Alcock Zak Bennett Little; Boyd McCann Tunners Rowe; Taylor Tomlin

For ages FerJu seemed to have a set 11 in his mind but he's becoming a bit of a Fry tinkerer of late. I'm not going to another match until Sinclair is dropped. He tilts me too hard.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on January 23, 2012, 05:02:25 PM
In Fergie we trust.

Just seems the return of Wootton leaves as very short for defensive and centre midfield cover. Surprise to let him go as we had him signed until the end of the season.

Re: Saturday's team Frecks could be back so we could potentially go to the regular line up which served us so well for the first few months. I know your a Tomlin fan but he hasn't performed for sometime and on Saturday was lucky not to get sent off yet again.






Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 24, 2012, 09:58:34 AM
Madsen is now too big at 12 imo. Market went nuts after fight night and can understand why Frankie Coke-noser is now favourite, but Madsen should never be double figures.

Some of the best TV in ages for anyone that missed it last night...

http://www.channel5.com/shows/celebrity-big-brother/episodes/episode-20-116

Fun starts about 15mins in


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: millidonk on January 24, 2012, 10:40:19 AM
Last night was incred. abso loved it, hope it spills over to today. I reckon Gareth is in with a shout but the voting this series has been pretty unpredictable.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on January 24, 2012, 11:04:48 AM
Excellent news, McFly and Steps are appearing after racing at Newmarket this summer. That's two days sorted.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 01, 2012, 10:58:49 AM
Urgh, not proud of myself for even suggesting this but 7/1 about the mighty Posh getting relegated is too big given the month we have coming up. Value is value and all that.

We've been lucky with injuries for a couple of seasons but, if we suddenly pick up a couple, there is zero strength in depth. And we still can't defend.

JUDAS

Hope you didn't lump on this to big.

Bet of the season now imo. If anyone wants to lay me some more at 7/1?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Josedinho on February 21, 2012, 06:12:37 PM
Tyrone Barnett signs from Crawley. Wasn't it you that had Crawley at a fancy price? Mixed emotions?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Solaris on February 21, 2012, 06:20:25 PM
Tyrone Barnett signs from Crawley. Wasn't it you that had Crawley at a fancy price? Mixed emotions?

Thought Crawley were this overly ambitious league two club with millionaire backers?

Sold Tubbs and Barnett. Very strange.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on February 21, 2012, 10:34:47 PM
Tyrone Barnett signs from Crawley. Wasn't it you that had Crawley at a fancy price? Mixed emotions?

Yuh, VC laid me a fair bet at 12-1 but covered it for greensville. Barnett has been a wantaway for a while I think, so quite happy. We need a striker badly to go alongside Taylor and he'll do fine I think. Hopefully this is the end of the Emile Sinclair chapter.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: TheChipPrince on February 22, 2012, 12:03:26 PM
Tyrone Barnett signs from Crawley. Wasn't it you that had Crawley at a fancy price? Mixed emotions?

Thought Crawley were this overly ambitious league two club with millionaire backers?

Sold Tubbs and Barnett. Very strange.

Millionaire backers is a relative thing here, they've made £2million pound from two decent players.  Selling them does not make them un-ambitious, its the equivalent of Utd selling Rooney for £50mil and calling them un-ambitous.  Each player has a value, and once a players head is turned a club can only do so much.

They will re-invest that £££ back into the squad, imagine 5x £400k signings for a L2 club?  solidifies everything about the club allowing for re-structure etc.

I don't like Evans anymore than most, but he does a grand job at playing up to the 'nobody likes us we don't care' thought process, and all his ex-players speak of how decent he is for this and gets the most out of them.

Purely as a business decision think they've done well overall.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Solaris on February 22, 2012, 02:15:03 PM
Tyrone Barnett signs from Crawley. Wasn't it you that had Crawley at a fancy price? Mixed emotions?

Thought Crawley were this overly ambitious league two club with millionaire backers?

Sold Tubbs and Barnett. Very strange.

Millionaire backers is a relative thing here, they've made £2million pound from two decent players.  Selling them does not make them un-ambitious, its the equivalent of Utd selling Rooney for £50mil and calling them un-ambitous.  Each player has a value, and once a players head is turned a club can only do so much.

They will re-invest that £££ back into the squad, imagine 5x £400k signings for a L2 club?  solidifies everything about the club allowing for re-structure etc.

I don't like Evans anymore than most, but he does a grand job at playing up to the 'nobody likes us we don't care' thought process, and all his ex-players speak of how decent he is for this and gets the most out of them.

Purely as a business decision think they've done well overall.

Completely understand where you're coming from and I don't disagree with the thought process; just thought with the sale of Tubbs, Crawley wouldn't allow Barnett to leave until the summer after they'd, hopefully for them, secured promotion. I'm not sure how long his contract was for, but can only assume it was long enough that his sale price wouldn't have been affected.

There's 6 teams with 6 points of each other in the league and I don't think it would be unfair to say that keeping one of those two could be the difference between staying up or not? Be interesting to see where they finish in the end.

Evans shouldn't have been allowed to continue in the game, but that's a separate issue...


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 16, 2012, 01:27:35 AM
Getting to watch the mighty Posh for the first time in two years, which happened to be Posh's last 0-0. Doubt it will be another 7-1 as the tractor boys have improved. However I'm looking forward to watching the likes of Taylor and Barnett upfront and our attacking play. I'm going for a 3-2 win. Heart rules my head as always when it comes to the Posh.

p.s. I think your regelation bet is an epic fail thankfully


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 16, 2012, 10:37:00 AM
Absolutely zero chance of this being 0-0. This could be literally any score any way imo.

Not seen much of Barnett yet but we have a couple more Tuesday night home games coming this month, so will see him then.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on March 16, 2012, 12:20:06 PM
Absolutely zero chance of this being 0-0. This could be literally any score any way imo.

Not seen much of Barnett yet but we have a couple more Tuesday night home games coming this month, so will see him then.

Will it have 3 or more goals ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 16, 2012, 01:40:42 PM
Funny you should ask as I've been creating an algorithm this morning and...

Computer says YES!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 16, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
Will it have 3 or more goals ?

Yes.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on March 16, 2012, 02:15:34 PM
computer likes 3-1


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 16, 2012, 02:16:10 PM
To the mighty Posh?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on March 16, 2012, 02:16:53 PM
To the mighty Posh?


lolz..... spoken like a true fan


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 16, 2012, 02:21:55 PM
Not sure I can respect the Anglian-derby opinions of an NBA expert tbh. Algorithm or not.

Any other score, ie, either team to score 4+, is 11/2 on Betfair. Not the worst punt in history.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 16, 2012, 07:58:46 PM
Stat from BBC

Peterborough are the only club not to have been involved in a goalless draw in this division this season. Indeed both these clubs have provided value for money, with Championship matches involving the London Road club yielding 111 goals, topped only by those involving Ipswich, 119 goals.

What odd's a 0-0 ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 16, 2012, 11:43:08 PM
20-1 on Betunfair. I wouldn't touch it at ten points bigger tbh.

We are now pushing 100 games since a 0-0, or may be over by now. Ipshitch will want revenge for that televised humiliation earlier in the season. We are never going to keep a clean sheet in a million years with nobody protecting the back four now.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 17, 2012, 10:47:24 AM
122 games since our last 0-0 (against Ipswich @ Portman Road).

It's raining here in Ipswich so will be a greasy pitch so I'm expecting goals, goals and goals  ;cheerleader;


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: vegaslover on March 17, 2012, 03:38:40 PM
goals!!!


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 17, 2012, 05:23:04 PM
computer likes 3-1

Miles off. Please amend algorithm.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: the sicilian on March 17, 2012, 09:51:52 PM
computer likes 3-1

Miles off. Please amend algorithm.

Sigh computer was 1 goal off scoooooooop


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 18, 2012, 09:40:18 AM
122 games since our last 0-0 (against Ipswich @ Portman Road).

It's raining here in Ipswich so will be a greasy pitch so I'm expecting goals, goals and goals  ;cheerleader;

Pick your ideal 22-man squad for next season dicey? How was the match?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 23, 2012, 03:11:21 PM
I got the score right, unfortunetly just got it the wrong way round. In truth there should have been a few more goals with some gilt edged chances missed by both teams. Posh started of the better only to conceed the first goal to Ipswich's first chance via a set piece. The Barnett/Taylor partnership looks quality and hopefully sticks together for next season. Further evidence of this are the excellent results against Blackpool and Reading in the last couple of weeks. Posh finished the half the stronger and probably should have been in front. Ipswich started the second half strong and had two great chances, one of the crossbar. We looked tried in the second half especially the two upfront but that's hardly surprising considering their workrate in the first half. Emile came on and did enough to suggest he's worth working with for next season and offers us something as a sub. I can even claim that I he now seen him win a header. Re: the final result Ipswich got the rub of the green but in truth any result could have happened in this entertaining game.

Based on the last few games I would say I'm pretty positive about next season as we have the basis of a decent Championship team. Re: my 22 I would firstly it would be nice to have 22 Posh players excluding youth team members. The forward line looks sorted as long as we don't loose Taylor. Taylor/Barnett combo will scare alot of defences and Emile and Ball offer good alternatives. Future looks bleak for Ajose and I'm not sure he will get another chance, depends how much he impresses pre season. Midfield is decent when they all click but we have been found out on occassions especially with a couple of injuries. A couple of additions in this area would be good and one of thoose I believe will be M.O'Connor (Scunnie). Defence is the major area we need to bloaster as we need another CB and LB (but we've needed a new LB for gods knows how long). Brisley has looked decent for such a young guy jumping up a couple of leagues. Rowe has also done well filling in at LB and maybe he will grow into that position. I say that because Boyd needs to stay out on the left wing rather than playing in the middle. Re: CB I know we have signed one on a pre contract and it will be interesting to see who that is. As for our goalkeeper I think we may be starting with someone new next season. Jones is ok but I'm sure there are better available out there.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 23, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
What's happening with Joe Lewis?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 23, 2012, 03:31:01 PM
What's happening with Joe Lewis?

Last seen letting in half a dozen goals for QPR's reserves.

He's keeping our bench warm until he can leave on a free transfer this summer. Jones started as our no.1 at the start of the season but was then "rested". Lewis then played for a few months. It was rumoured that we were hoping to put Lewis in the shop window and at least get some return on him. Lewis is seen as a liability by many Posh fans and there won't be much love lost when he leaves.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: The Camel on March 23, 2012, 03:37:02 PM
What's happening with Joe Lewis?

Last seen letting in half a dozen goals for QPR's reserves.

He's keeping our bench warm until he can leave on a free transfer this summer. Jones started as our no.1 at the start of the season but was then "rested". Lewis then played for a few months. It was rumoured that we were hoping to put Lewis in the shop window and at least get some return on him. Lewis is seen as a liability by many Posh fans and there won't be much love lost when he leaves.

Last time I was at London Road was last season v Brighton.

Lewis was amazing, absolutely clear pick as Man of the Match in a 2-0 Brighton win.

I thought he was destined for big things.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 23, 2012, 03:37:57 PM
Yah, Lewis a gonna. Some shop-window effort when he let another one drift in from a free kick v Mackems.

Rowe was sensational at left back v Reading, and Zak/Brisley looked good together. Sinclair can gtfo.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 23, 2012, 03:50:48 PM
I thought he was destined for big things.

So did we. I remember Lewis was consided on a par with Joe Hart and it was a debate who would become England's no.1


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 23, 2012, 03:54:48 PM
Rowe was sensational at left back v Reading, and Zak/Brisley looked good together. Sinclair can gtfo.

The full back popsitions are a tricky one. Alcock has been a great signing and deserves to be the no.1 RB but I'm also a big fan of Little's. I know he hasn't been the same since his injury but his forward movement in the first half of the season was a large factor in our early success. Do we play Little and play Alcock at LB, where he has done a great job or play Alcock RB and Rowe at LB.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 23, 2012, 03:56:53 PM
Re: eurovision

I've yet to check out any of the entries except for those Russian Grannies which could be worth a punt for nil points.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 23, 2012, 05:52:26 PM
Nah, the Russian grannies are never gonna score nil points. They'll have to be voted through the semis first.

No ante-post bets for me this year. Will wait for the semis and final in May.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 26, 2012, 01:37:03 PM
Pick your ideal 22-man squad for next season dicey? How was the match?

What's your 22 man squad for next season Chompy ?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 26, 2012, 07:50:19 PM
Whatever FerJu wants it to be imo. I have total faith and think I might love him. He decided against Baldock and time is showing that was pretty shrewd.

Of the current batch I think the only certainties to still be there are Zak, Alcock, Tomlin, Taylor and Barnett. Could even see Boydy moving on and still not sure he's a big McCann fan.

McFadzean still on radar imo and like what I've seen of him. How about Jimmy Bullard coming back to where it all started? Not on Ipswich wages though obv. Lewington at left-back and Gleeson from MK Donkeys? How about Tommy Williams coming back?  ;)


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: nirvana on March 26, 2012, 08:42:44 PM
We're gonna hang on to Freckles I hope


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 26, 2012, 09:03:40 PM
Freckles could be a gonna. His gonna be a great pick-up for a League 1 outfit if he stays fit.

If you know anyone with a spare ticket for the Hammers match tomorrow, I'm happy to pay mad ££££ for it. London Road ideally.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: mondatoo on March 26, 2012, 11:07:49 PM
Maybe try fans forum, I got lucky and got one for Mackems game that way.

Just had a look and 1st one I checked had this...

http://www.theposhforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=20961


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 27, 2012, 12:21:54 AM
Tried signing up yesterday Monda and it wouldn't have it. Just tried again and instant service. Just need someone with a spare now. Should be some game.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: mondatoo on March 27, 2012, 12:22:52 AM
Tried signing up yesterday Monda and it wouldn't have it. Just tried again and instant service. Just need someone with a spare now. Should be some game.

GLGL.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: thediceman on March 27, 2012, 02:02:08 PM
If you know anyone with a spare ticket for the Hammers match tomorrow, I'm happy to pay mad ££££ for it. London Road ideally.

Odd single tickets have been returned and are available according to the ticket office.

Source: londonroadend.net


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on March 27, 2012, 02:37:00 PM
Nope, all gone. FML. Where do these fairweathers spring from? Where were they when we drew 0-0 with Halifax that one winter about 25 years ago when I won a chicken soup drinking competition with my mate Sean?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 02, 2012, 10:48:10 AM
Sigh at Taylor refusing to sign an extended contract beyond next summer.

Am guessing he'll go for somewhere in the region of £4-5m in the summer. Sucks. That partnership with Barnett had so much potential. Whoever gets him is getting something a bit tasty though. He is impossible to get the ball off. What a find from the Belgian lower leagues.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: horseplayer on April 02, 2012, 10:53:58 AM
you think that much?

i presume he has sorted himself out now lifestyle wise?

My old man does some lower league scouting and he tried to get him a move to somewere other than chester when he first went to vauxhall motors..

looks a much more rounded player now though certainly bulked up a fair bit



Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 02, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
Without doubt worth that sort of dime imo. Someone might get him for £3m but there's a lot of interest by all accounts.

Suppose we might be better off taking the cash. Enough 'lads' in the Poshy ranks as it is. One fewer potential problem child maybe not a bad thing.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on April 02, 2012, 06:30:10 PM

Well done on winning* the Tourney @ G-Luton last night, Mr W.

*13 way chop, was it?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 02, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
Sure was. I sort of finished eighth for a mighty £120.

You know when you get to the final table and everyone has around 10-15xBB? And you wait for the first hand of 5k-10k and sigh inwardly when Squarehead open-rises to 45k on the button? And you look down at AA in the SB and shove 105k? And it goes back to him and he says "Oh well, got too much in there now, you're in front but spose I better call"? And he turns over JQ cc and the flop comes 457 one club? And etc etc?

That's sort of what happened.

I've decided I'm like a veteran 3m handicap chaser with a habit of breaking blood-vessels in that I perform best fresh. After a break. I may need cheekpieces (like Bollywood villain British Gas) or perhaps first-time blinkers in Vegas in the summer.

Should be fine though, I'm gonna get Pizzled to stake me and everything.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on April 02, 2012, 06:56:38 PM
Sure was. I sort of finished eighth for a mighty £120.

You know when you get to the final table and everyone has around 10-15xBB? And you wait for the first hand of 5k-10k and sigh inwardly when Squarehead open-rises to 45k on the button? And you look down at AA in the SB and shove 105k? And it goes back to him and he says "Oh well, got too much in there now, you're in front but spose I better call"? And he turns over JQ cc and the flop comes 457 one club? And etc etc?

That's sort of what happened.

I've decided I'm like a veteran 3m handicap chaser with a habit of breaking blood-vessels in that I perform best fresh. After a break. I may need cheekpieces (like Bollywood villain British Gas) or perhaps first-time blinkers in Vegas in the summer.

Should be fine though, I'm gonna get Pizzled to stake me and everything.

Timeform Squiggle added. Just the one. For now.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 02, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Nooooooo, Boydy has also rejected a contract extension beyond the summer.

I don't know what to do. I love Boydy.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: tikay on April 02, 2012, 10:11:40 PM
Nooooooo, Boydy has also rejected a contract extension beyond the summer.

I don't know what to do. I love Boydy.

I'm still here for you, worry not.

Nice shirt last night btw. "Shocking pink" suits you.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: SlikVik on April 13, 2012, 01:39:57 AM
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Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Eso Kral on April 27, 2012, 01:01:40 PM
Any chance of some Eurovision puntering updates please Sir Chomps?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 27, 2012, 01:33:46 PM
No Eurovision yet sir. Won't do anything till the week as nothing stood out to me this time.

Far more interested in the news that Steps are performing after racing at Newmarket in the summer. Unmissable stuff.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Eso Kral on April 27, 2012, 01:54:34 PM
No Eurovision yet sir. Won't do anything till the week as nothing stood out to me this time.

Far more interested in the news that Steps are performing after racing at Newmarket in the summer. Unmissable stuff.
Who is your favourite?


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 27, 2012, 02:05:50 PM
Haitch obv

Actually, has to be Claire in this classic. She has that whole wobbly mouth thing going on on to the max.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq7iQPbiq1Y&ob=av2e


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: Chompy on April 27, 2012, 02:39:18 PM
Boooooooooo!

Tomorrow night sees the 'Steps 21st July Handicap' at Haydock

I got 'Tragedy' and 'Better Best Forgotten' in the verdict but the miserable fking subs took it out :(


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: celtic on January 22, 2013, 12:21:28 AM
Bump.


Title: Re: Diary Of A Fenland Punterer
Post by: claypole on January 22, 2013, 12:23:27 AM
Get in the diary section.....no real punter bets on CBB