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If we are starting threads about every little team, might as well have one about the mighty QPR and their inevitable rise to the Premiership.

Is Adel Taarabt the second coming of Maradona?

Who should QPR sign to cover for the unfortunate injury to Jamie Mackie?

If Bernie Ecclestone doesn't splash some cash will Warnock walk?

Is there a better anagram in the world than Colin Wanker?

 ;booder;

hoops!

What are the plans for Loftus Rd if you get promoted?

When Flavio and his cohorts first came in, there was lots of talk of finding a new venue somewhere to the west of London.

Loftus Road is clearly too small to sustain a Premiership club, but all the talk of a new stadium has gone quiet over the last 18 months, even though the BBC have recently put a big proportion of their White City property (about a mile from Loftus Road) up for sale which would have been perfect for a new stadium.

Basically noone knows what Ecclestone, Flavio and Mittal's plans are for the club.

They saved us from the possibility of going to the wall, for which everyone will be grateful for, but they certainly aren't the sgar daddies everyone expected them to be.

Possibly they are hoping to get promotion as cheaply as possible and then flog the club.

Fave player of all time?

Trevor Sinclair- better with or without dreadlocks?

When I was out in Vegas playing cash one night I got talking to the guy next to me. He was a big US soccer fan and so took a big interest in English football, especially the US players.

Never did I expect to meet an American who remembers this as much as I do.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOUaDs_55E4

Stan Bowles was a tiny bit before my time. The first season I started going was his last at QPR, but he was always a genius.

I loved Simon Stainrod. He was class, taking the piss out of the opposition, undervalued skill wise and really unlucky not a have had a England career.

There were others too, Tony Currie, Roy Wegerle, Sir Les, Paul Parker, Clive Wilson and Ray Wilkins. For a small club, we have been blessed with alot of class players. Variance I guess.

Trev will always be dreadlocked in my mind. Because he had flowing locks when he did this:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVcIR6ftJuk

The best goal I'll ever see.

Never seen away fans give a goal a standing ovation before or since.

The bittersweet aspect to our season is that two people to thank for it are Bernie Ecclestone and Neil Warnock, two men who, if I'd seen them on fire, I would quickly have downed a bottle of vodka so I could piss pure alcohol on them.

Was Don Masson before your time? A living God whilst in Nottingham.

Nope, definitely saw him play.

He captained Scotland didn't he?

I think Notts County had his best days, but he was certainly very good for us too.

Congrats on getting a point against Norwich this season.

Very much this.

Hated Warnock for many years, his behaviour in that Sheff Utd/WBA game where 3 of his players wer red carded and he tried to get another of his players sent off to get the game abandoned was despicable.#

His handling of Taarabt has been fantastic and he has QPR playing football he has never had any of his other teams playing.

Yes he did captain Scotland for a short while, he was a natural leader. He played out of his skin for County and was one of the best Sirrel finds, of which there were many. He joined QPR around the same time as David Needham, if I recall correctly. We had one come ove the other way but am damned if I can remember who it was.

We are extremely lucky to be where we are.

Mackie started the season in incredibly hot form and scored 8 in 9 or something ridic.

We have eeked out points which we don't deserve several times.

Oh, and we have the best player in the division by a country mile. He has probably won us 12points single handed.

It would be a criminal waste of such a great start if the board do not invest a couple of million in a proven striker to replace Mackie (Becchio, Cox or Austin plz).

Ha was just a little dig. You ruined our record of scoring every away game at Loftus road, I think it was 32 consecutive away league games at the time (a post war record) and we have scored in every one since.

The Championship this season is an extremely even division this year and being able to eek out points is going to be massive come May.

Some happy Masson memories for you

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llNWUPvqT2Y

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XL18UZ6bc

Remember this game quite vividly:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35SXBpIyG_k

WP Dennis Bailey

Hallejuh Dennis Bailey!

New Years Day live on ITV.

Tez player, had one night which no QPR will ever forget.

Great thread Keith, hope you keep it up.  Its super to see a thread started by a proper supporter of his local club.

Good on you.

Simon Barker looked like Les Dennis.

How good can Raheem Sterling be?

Why did u let us have zesh rehman?

El-Hadji Diouf

Zesh was probably the worst defender I've seen playing in the hoops.

He always looked like Bambi auditioning for Dancing on Ice.

Lovely fella though by all accounts and does great work in the community.

The sky is the limit.

Not sure if moving to Liverpool at his age was right for him, he could easily get lost, whereas if he stayed at Loftus Road he would have been fast tracked to the first team.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbDxiKM0c8M

Talk more about Taarbat, I'm intrigued.

A really good quote on saturday night from the presenter of the football league about Taaraat ''If QPR go up it will be because of Taarabt and if OPR dont go up it will be because of Taarabt'' i lol'd. I have watched a few QPR games and obviously he is an unbelievable talent but its plain to see the other players get really pissed off when he should be playing them in and instead he goes for the wonder strike from 40 yards or tries to beat another player.

On his day he is unplayable and prob the best player in the championship but does he do it often enough Camel and do the fans get frustrated with him aswell?

Shaun Derry seems to be doing an important job in midfield too how highly do rate him?

Got into a convo with a coach about him not long ago and he said without a doubt the brightest prospect he's seen in over 20 years. Said the lads like Suso and Pacheco won't be as good if he works hard enough he could go all the way.

:)

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The sky is the limit.

Not sure if moving to Liverpool at his age was right for him, he could easily get lost, whereas if he stayed at Loftus Road he would have been fast tracked to the first team.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbDxiKM0c8M
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I don't know wtf is happening with this transfer window.

Why we always wait until the last minute to sign anyone I cannot figure out.

We need a striker (Mackie and Agyemang out for season) and a full back (the brilliant Walker has gone to Villa).

We have spent fortunes on moderate players since the 3 stooges took over and now with promotion within our grasp Flavio and Bernie don't want to spend.

Warnock is sounding increasingly unhappy, the assumption being promises that were made when he took over are not being kept.

FML if we throw it away from here.

I've heard Benni Mcarthy but not sure that is the answer

Literally heard about 10 manes mentioned.

McCarthy, Jason Roberts, Adam Le Fondre, Charlie Austin, Simon Cox, Ishmail Miller, Craig Davies.

My guess is we'll get the cheapest.

Hello, Mr Davies. :(

are you def looking to buy a striker? you were after eccleston on loan

Buy, borrow, beg or steal.

We need a goalscorer desperately.

Tomorrow it will either be Hulse and Smith or 4-5-1.

Whatever, I don't see us scoring unless Adel provides a fist full of magic.

How about Bentner? He's a big donkey.

Yes please.

Woodgate and O'Hara for the season seems to be the shout of the day - any thoughts?

I don't think O'Hara goes on loan to the championship. Think it's more Shittu and McCarthy. McCarthy played a game behind closed doors for them and scored.

I've always liked Woodgate and if even 90% fit would be by far the best cb in the Championship.

I haven't heard O'Hara linked, but he is obv a very good player, but we are very well stocked in mf, so I would be doubtful he is coming. Who knows though.

The rumours I've heard is for Routledge, Miller and Shittu.

Routledge was fantastic when he first came to us, but left pretty quickly and didn't have much good to say about QPR when he left. A strange one, esp as he wa slinked with lolerpool just a couple of days ago.

Miller is just the sort of striker we need but has been injury ravaged for 2+ seasons. If he's fit, I'll be happy.

Shittu was awesome when he was here before, but his career has been patchy since he left. I don't think he'll be forst choice if he comes back.

The record of players coming back to LR after leaving has been tez.

Allen, Gallen, Cook, Quashie, Langley all were excellent before they left, and with the possible exception of Gallen were a shadow of their former selves when they came back.

I hope Shittu and Routledge buck this trend.

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Kevin Phillips wold be a cracking signing for the run-in imo.

This x 10000000000000000

Signed Wayne Routledge and Pascal Chimbonda til the end of the season.

Routledge was fantastic when he was with us in 2009, but QPR have a terrible record of resigning players who were a shadow of their former selves. (Quashie, Cook, Langley to name but 3).

Chimbonda is obviously good, but has temprement problems.

If they both work ouit, could/should be excellent signings.

Lol, this thread just reminded me of something at work the other day, someone asks the question, " which league team has no vowels in the 1st 5letters in their 1st team name ? " Labourer on site shouts " QPRFC" Loll

Warnock has just said Ishmael Miller has signed too.

It's taken a while, but all targets are now on board, lets gogogogogogogogo

Crystal Palace!

 ;D

Sweet, a QPR thread on a poker forum, can’t get any better, apart from when U R’s takes down the championship title! Next season make the top 5 and then back in to Europe, great times for Rangers again! Thanks for the welcome Camel

Not sure if I wanna watch the game tomo, we allways seem to play crap on the box, i am sure we will cane them anyway, U R's

Everything points to us winning comfortably today, were it not for the fact we're live on the telly, which always seems to jinx us.

Wiiiiiii - that second goal was a thing of beauty. Lovely pass with the outside of the boot by Taarabt and a great first touch from Routledge.

Adel Taarabt is changing his name to Walter Mitty

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/01/30/manual_124607.html

V sad.

"BBC Radio Sheffield too. Sheffield Wednesday are set to sign 28-year-old midfielder Lee Cook from QPR. "

He was fantastic during his first spell with the club, but his second spell has been ravaged by injuries.

His act of waiving his share of transfer fee to let the club have the money was one of the best gestures I've ever heard from a footballer.

Good luck at Wenesday Cookie.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8exVcUTaFtA


explain

Sky sports presenter said he was injured when it happened. Limped off at half time. Dunno if he came back out.

Just been reminded it's been 15 years since Queens Park Rangers were last in the Premiership.

I was a young man when Eric fckin Cantona sent us down inm the 12th minute of injury time.

Huge week coming up. Away v Reading followed by home v Forest.

If we can get through these two games unbeaten, or 1 win, 1 loss, I think we will be nearly there.

Lose these two and it's wide open again.

C'MON YOU R'sssssssssssssssssssssssss.

FYP

URRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

With Kebe back and Long on fire I fancy we'll sneak a win.

Long doubtful I heard?

Really? Sigh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/9383510.stm

Queens Park Rangers are yet to win at the Madejski Stadium. Their last away triumph against Reading was at Elm Park in September 1997.
Mike Sheron, Houston's flagship capture and still the club's record signing, made his debut that night.

Can't be too many Prem/Championship teams whose record signing was over 13 years ago?

I would say our top 3 most expensive signings were all from that era.

Sheron, Spencer and Peacock.

I know Brighton's record signing is Andy Ritchie for 300k from Man Utd in 1980!

LOL!

Another Championship team with 13 years - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerien_Ismael

Must stop now...

Thoughts on 9/4 QPR Keith?

Jesus, I have never heard of him!

Neither have I - I assume he was a result of when Mark Goldberg took Palace over and appointed the winning Lombardo/Brolin management team...

I think it's big, especially if Long (who I rate really highly) doesn't play.

Routledge is an excellent signing (assuming his head is right) and he looked good v Coventry. And I think Miller will improve quickly as he gets matches under his belt.

We are looking very strong again at the back and our midfield is definitely the best in the division.

Our wide men v their full backs looks a total mismatch.

QPR on the Asian handicaps looks the way forward.

Awesome performance and ever awesomer result.

Faurlin is utter class, he is going to be a star in the Premiership - hopefully for us next season!

Not even sofa king or railtard could upset me right now!

U R'ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

That's the result which will put us in the Premiership - away against a team in good form and down to ten men we still get the win.

Our players just look noticeably better than those of the teams we play - there is a definite gap in class between Taraabt, Routledge and Faurlin with opposition players.

Glad I broke my habit of a lifetime and backed us tonight.

I thought Mills should have got a red - as Peter Beagrie pointed out he was the effective last man as the other defender was getting nowhere near the ball. Ephraim was unlucky - we were breaking at pace and once the ball got away from him he was running so quickly that if he makes contact with the Reading player it's always going to look really bad.

I actually thought the ref got both decisions right.

Ephraim was definitely a red, Kebe could easily have had his ankle broken there. In real time I thought Mills was a yellow, with slow motion replays etc it could be argued it should have red, but happy it wasn't at the time.

Yeah - I'm not arguing with Ephraim's red. He was unlucky that once the ball gets away from him, he's going to commit a red-card tackle without really meaning to or with any malice.

Congrats on a great victory.  You really do seem to be a class apart in this division.  Assuming you do go up it will be interesting to see if the owners/board will start spending real money to make you acheive there as they clearly have it but haven't really splashed it so far.

The Camel looks like he is reinvesting his lucky James Keys money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12650324

Fantastic results for Rangers today.

Nearly there now.

As long we don't bottle it, we'll be in the Premiership next season.

And if Bernie and Flavio decide to eff off all the better!

U R'sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

excellent results for you today too.

I honestly don't think we are that much better than the rest of the League.

But a defence that has kept 20 clean sheets from 35 games cannot be argued with.

With Taraabt and Derry in the team I doubt he'll get many votes for Player of the Year but Paddy Kenny has been immense all season. Countless point earning saves and I can only remember one blunder that conceded a goal.

Best keeper we've had since Seaman.

Yeah its a close league, if Leeds had half a defense we would be up there :( Paddy Kenny is prem quality, but I heard he is a little crazy character wise and hard to control.

Hows Routy doing?

Looking forward to my trip to Loftus Road on Saturday.

Worst away record in the division against runaway leaders - we dont have a cat in hells chance lol

Game is a sell out already.

Very well.

He's been just the spark we need, teams had realised if you clamped down on Tarbs you stopped us playing. You can't ignore Routledge, quick skilful, composed in front of goal. He's been excellent.

There was a rumour on the messageboard about 2 weeks ago that hehopes to return to the Toon next season. He's apparently very happy there and hopes his future lies there. No idea if true or not. Hope he joins us permanently/

Loftus Road has a fantastic atmosphere when it's full for a big game.

And this is undoubtedly a big game for both clubs.

I'd wish you good luck, but I wouldn't mean it!

Routledge is a good Championship player, he isn't even near good enough for the Premiership though.

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/QPR-Paladini-charged


Points deduction FTW. (well for the Norwich win that is)

I reckon 10 points would be about fair!

Sounds good to me, big Swans fan and have backed Norwich at 16's and Swansea at 20's.

The sooner the grubby Palkadini GTFO from Loftus Road the better.

Lashkmi Mittal and family ftw

Anyone got idea how likely a points deduction is here and if so how many it will be??

Should be zero - precedent set with Tevez.

However, could be possible complication with the fact that apparantly the FA told us at the start of the season to sort this shit out, but we didn't.

didn't they deduct luton 10 points for same thing.

Its a new rule. Due mainly to do with Tevez and Mascherano at West Ham, Warnock was on the flip side of that ironically.

I doubt very much if the FA will levy a points deduction.

Say we get a 10pt deduction and it costs us promotion. The club will appeal to the courts and ultimately Europe and if we win the FA will be liable to pay us about £100 million in lost revenue.

I can't see this happening.

A heavy fine and maybe (hopefully) a ban for Paladini is much more likely.

£3 available for QPR to be relegated at 1000 on Betfair if anyone fancies it!

Pretty LOL how all the other teams seem to be treating the quest for the 2nd promotion spot as game of pass the parcel with a fizzing bomb.

I am already for the fail this evening, as the parcel is very much with us.

Happened in 1st Div last season :)~ hopefully same thing will happen

I vaguely remember that, it doesn't stick in the mind as we were about 20 points clear at the time  ;)

lol we was like 5th with 3 games to go :P but yeah you pulled well clear. I have no problem QPR not losing any points, they the best team in the division but the fight for 2nd will be fun indeed.

Good article in the Dail Fail about Taarabt and Warnock

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1368608/Adel-Taarabts-grief-cousin-shot-dead.html#ixzz1HHB2Pt1c

From the Daily Fail also:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1368623/Craig-Bellamy-set-Manchester-City-return.html

Why wouldn't a 31 year old take a big drop in wages to play football.

He's only got 2 or 3 seasons left of top class football left and yet he seems content to sit out one year in the reserves/not playing.

Surely he's rich enough not to need 90k per week.

Good piece in the thunderer today, Keith, "QPR magician conjuring his return to the upper echelons".

Top class piece about "mercurial Taarabt".

Not all of them would play for 'the love of the game', Bogarde springs to mind but I bet there has been many more.

And I bet 3 to 4 million is still a significant chunk of change to him. Not sure most would give up most of that just to play 90 minutes a week in the Championship.

Vice Chairman resigns and the season tickets got up 40%, welcome to the premier league.

Cheapest price £47.  Scandalous!

Not just any vice chairman though, he is the son-in-law of Lakshmi Mittal - gg transfer funds?

Annoying as it is, this was always going to happen. We only have about 15,000 seats for home fans to sell for each game, and a hardcore support of about 11,000 who would have gone to every game last season.

Supply is very limited, which means they can get away with taking the piss with the prices.

I would prefer to pay £47 to watch QPR home games in the Prem than Sheff Wed home games for in League 1 for £27 (and theres prob more expensive tickets in L1 too).

£47 is cheapest seat at QPR I reckon £27 must be our most expensive. Take the point though.
SWFC taking some rubdowns on Blonde atm. 

:D

5/2 for relegation seems more than tempting.

9th favs on bf to win the title, outside chance ??

We're only 9th because everyone below Everton in the table is either broke, shit or broke and shit. Fulham were 8th last season and we're a very similar club to them.

This really hasn't worked out too well for us, has it?

All those billions of pounds that the owners have has led to the marque signings of Messi, Xavi, Jay Bothroyd and Kieron Dyer. Also we weren't able to persuade Wayne Routledge to stay with us (instead preferring to stay in the Championship with Forest) and even Craig Mackail-Smith decided Brighton were a better option.

Fancy going to watch QPR v Bolton on the first day of the season?

That'll be £50 for the cheapest ticket please, sir.

I'm probably being a bit harsh on Bothroyd - he's the sort of player where if he hits form can keep us up (like Odemthingy at West Brom last season). I should hope so for £50,000 a week.

Also, it's not all doom and gloom - we've signed Danny Gabbidon as well!

Is it really £50 for the cheapest ticket there this year??  That is horrific. 

I miss the camel.

Yep, £50 and that's for the category B games - God knows what it's going to cost when the Neanderthals drag their knuckles over from Fulham Broadway.

£64 base for category A I believe

Plenty of chatter of fans boycotting QPR, though I expect most will find a way

For away fans it is bad, as the facilities on that top tier are horrendous. Cramped, bad access and exits

£50+ is a scandal

The weird thing is only a couple of years ago i went to watch Boro there and only paid £25 and remember commenting how nice it was to come to west London and not feel like I have done my bollocks before I even have a beer.....

I'm not an expert on this Premier League thing but I assume that this Bolton are one of the best teams in it and we were unlucky to get the probable title winners on the first day of the season.

Hopefully we'll do a bit better against the other teams who we will be competing against to avoid relegation such as Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal.

Bolton are prolly top 10ish. I didnt realise QPR signed Gabbidon aswell as Dyer. Two of the worst signings ever. Gabs in a huge donkey!

he lasted 5 mins bad injury..

Roll on Old Trafford.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35SXBpIyG_k

Joey Barton - Always was, always has, always will be a scumbag.

Would loved to have seen Balotelli get within 5 feet of him.

MAKKKKKKKKIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

Barton on Twitter

Can do nothing but apologise to the players and the fans. Still don't think its a sending off. Tried to take 1 of their players with me....

Still not my proudest moment but who gives a f*ck, we are safe..........and that is all that matters.

Barton can GTFO.

Just like Vinnie Jones before him, he is a stain on my club.

Bowles, Marsh, Stainrod, Ferdinand, Byrne, Francis, Parker.

Barton's not fit to polish their boots.

He's very lucky you stayed up today, run better Joey you moron.

#Thug4life

Agreed.  Been a stain at every club he's been at.  Big Sam to get him on a free next season?

More from him;
The head was never gone at any stage, once I'd been sent off, one of our players suggested I should try to take 1 of theirs with me...
...Never worked but god loves a trier. #reallynotbother #wearesafe

Pretty sure his 8 game ban, and resultant sacking will give him plenty time to reflect on just how shrewd that was

Be suprised if he gets sacked now, shud be but probs not.

Talk of a 10 game ban

Couldnt happen to a nicer bloke

Gets better. Or is it worse?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14052012/58/premier-league-barton-hits-sending.html

Barton vs Shearer?

Shearer by KO methinks....

He's a thug and should now have played his last game in English football

but in a 'car crash' sort of way he does provide entertainment...

I lol'd at his response to Shearer referencing the stamp on Lennon, and then he came up with this one for Lineker
"do u wanna go there publicly "Mr Squeaky Clean" ? Think u should have a look in that vast closet of skeltons before u respond... I know a lot about THAT side to u the people don't and won't bat an eye lid at exposing u. So mind ur manners Squeaky... now back under your stone you odious little toad..."

We won't miss him as he slips into obscurity, but he's provided lots of talking points over the last few years and I predict that at some stage in the not too distant future he'll be in Australia with Ant n Dec, or on some obscure satellite channel attempting to build a future out of just being Joey Barton the former enfant terrible of football

A few players Links with Leeds...lets hope 2-3 come up if Hughes has a clear out.

Who?

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/12/05/16/SOCCER_QPR.html&BID=165

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Any thoughts on the season?

You could go really well I think.

Green
Fabio
Onuoha
Ferdinand/Nelson
Traore/Young
Diakite
Park
Hoilett
Taarabt
Andy Johnson
Cisse

pretty heaven
zamora and faurlin too

Pretty confident we'll score lots of goals.

Some really decent attacking options.

Not so confident at the back, i loved Traore going forward, but he's very suspect defensively. Wasn't impressed with Onuoha last season at fb, maybe he'll move him inside with Fabio joining, or maybe this guy from Marseille will be cb. Ferdinand was ok, but not outstanding. The long term rumour was Samba from Russia, which would have been perfect, but that doesn't look like happening.

I'll be disappointed if Faurlin doesn't play alot. Think he's excellent.

Exciting season ahead!

A sad sad story...?

Meh.

By all accounts we played pretty well but Swansea were very efficient converting their chances and we weren't.

Not convinced by Onuoha or Fabio though. And how much of an upgrade is Green on Kenny?

I think we'll be fine. It's not like we lost 8-2 or something silly.

Have it in my mind you will now be a decent bet next week now.

Defence (including Green) looked horrendous.  Think they'll be okay but will concede too many goals to do anything other than finish in the low 40s I'd imagine.

how green is at this level is beyond me

Think 12/5 was a big price, Norwich are pretty terrible, QPRs gamechangers could decide it.

clint hill really though? surely better alternatives?

Ryan Nelsen and Andrew Johnson are they really going to improve the squad?

Dawson could be a very good buy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19334852

Good lad, good character, decent defender...it is said AVB thinks he is too slow to play a high line..but for QPR..an upgrade, yes?

I can't believe they're selling him, great buy if it's true.

Definite upgrade, our centre backs were weak before they got torn apart on Saturday.

very good for a side who are defending more than they are attacking

vulnerable to any pace, vulnerable to having to pass the ball to a team-mate and cant resist trying 80 yard raking passes that inevitably end up for a throw in

good tackler though and brave as anyone

Carvalho in on loan now....

I was swimming with his brother Andy and our kids last week and he thought his brother would be on the move soon. Both cracking lads and great professionals.

I read somewhere (maybe untrue, or a misread) that only last week, AVB appointed him as "Club Captain".

If - IF - that is true, it would rather suggest that AVB was unaware of any such likelihood, & that in itself would beg plenty of questions.

Vested Interest Confession. I said a while back that AVB was an outside contendor for first Managerial casualty of the season. So I'm just trying to convince myself. ;)

Change the thread title to 'Quarter Pound of Rubbish a sad sad story' imo.

Others doing the rounds.

Quite Probably Relegated
Quite Poor Really
Quality Players Required

The simple fact is I no longer care much whether QPR win or lose.

I'd prefer them to win, but it no longer causes me more than a shrug of my shoulders when they lose.

Enjoyed life in the Championship (and League 1 too) anyway.

Could go to any game I pleased without booking weeks in advance.

Watched players who actually gave a damn if the team won or lost.

Honestly had hope that the season would end in success (success is not coming 17th and avoiding relegation purely because there were 3 teams more inept than QPR)

As long I was certain QPR would still be around if they did get relegated and not be in Portsmouth sized financial hole, I'm not that bothered if they stay up or go down.

Gallen, Ainsworth, Shittu, Bircham >>>>>>>> Zamora, Cisse, Ferdinand (Anton, not Les obv), Cesar

It sounds as though you are about ready to come out as a 5pur2 fan.

Mark Hughes sacked

Next manager?

Redknapp, sadly.

Given the history between Redknapp and Taarabt (when he sold him, Harry referred to him as a "fruitcake") how do you see that one being resolved?

start afresh?

my understanding is that Taarabt is at the heart of the few positives about QPR so far this season


what can be done in January to change the shape of the squad?

Sadly indeed.

If you had asked me 4 years ago which 2 managers would you hope would never manage QPR my answer would have been - Neil Warnock and Harry Redknapp.

Sigh.

I would imagine Harry's approach will be to tell him to get with the programme or piss off as any good manager should. Taarabt almost went last year. Single players aren't very important in the grand scheme of things. Having said that Chelsea have employed Rafa solely to stop Nando flouncing about the place so who knows.

It's a strange old world where the West London club run most sensibly is that chaired by Al Fayed.....

haha. 

Yes, but Warnock did a great job there.  Surely you can't complain about that.

I went through similar a few years ago when we appointed Dave Bassett after the ill-fated John Hendrie experiment.  Hated the appointment, loved the trip to the 2000 Play-Off Final that came from it!

Justice imo for sacking Warnock and forcing him on Leeds :) Hughes was given much more time than Warnock.

'Arry is such a tart I'm sure you'll both be very happy.

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First day at work and Harry conducts interview from his car outside training ground, lol.

lol love this

Bump when we're winning, we only bump when we're winning.

Rafa out

Bradford City have beat more teams than QPR this season. God you must be terrible!

FYP :)

Meant that! Wasn't a lie either way tho ;)

Used to like Girgy, now he can gtfo.

I think a lot of neutrals want to see QPR & Harry stay in the prem

Sarcasm?

Nothing against QPR but the players and Harry are very dislikable bunch even by football standards.

Nothing against QPR, but dislike Redknapp quite a lot.  Can't stand Warnock either, which is a shame as I like Leeds.

+1 'arry is such a scrote and whilst I don't particularly dislike qpr I'd prefer others to stay up

Just hope they don't give him the rest of the money in this transfer window, there might be another club he wrecks on the horizon.

no I'm in a minority then. I like Harry and would much prefer to see other teams relegated

Snaffled 10/1 Remy top scorer.

Taarabt 4, Cisse 3.

6/7 goals could possibly win this.

Sure to start most games of the 16 games.

Thoughts Camel/Andrew?

Be a bit surprised if we see Cisse in the hoops again.

Think you're right about 6/7 winning it.

Will will make enough chances for him to score 6 or 7 is thee big question.

10/1 probably value, don't think he will make it though.

Hope he does!

Would Fernandes be sensible enough to put a release clause in for relegation for Remy, M'Vila etc?

I know the owners are mega funding it, but the scale of the losses if you do go down stuck with the current squad/wage bill will be horrendous

From the rumours I've heard, yes.

Whether that is the case for Diakite, SWP, Johnson, Zamora etc etc etc etc etc etc is more doubtful

:(

just asked on the Newcastle thread. Would wages for Remy not be higher if he had signed at Newcastle. I assumed wages would be good at Newcastle

I'm guessing much higher at QPR. Less rigidity in the wage structure I would expect

Three hours closer to France/Eurostar

Attractions of London

and Harry doing his sales patter

Not sure if this is true, but just read at a QPR he'll be allowed to leave for £4 if QPR get relegated.

More transfer % and signing on fees for Remy and agent + higher wages at Loftus Road

Ridiculous if true. He's hardly going to be motivated to play hard.

I assume that is £4m?!

10% of £4 wouldn't get him a tube ticket to West Ham.

sort of jumping between here and Newcastle thread but apparently Bosingwa earns more than anyone at Tottenham ???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9763375/Harry-Redknapp-to-sell-Jose-Bosingwa-after-lashing-out-at-QPR-flops.html

Quite a bit more as well.

Spurs have a wage cap put in place by the chairman, Daniel Levy. It has stopped us from getting some players for sure, but we're doing alright and the club is in an excellent position financially.

There was a rumour that Darren Bent was on 95k a week and that this was the straw that broke the camel's back, so when he went, Levy said "no more". How true that is, who knows?

There's always the fantastic story that Darren Anderton had it written into his contract that he had to be the spud on the biggest wage. Each time they signed someone on a bigger salary that him, he had his wage bumped up. Even though he spent most of his time on the physio bench.

He famously turned down united when Beckham left.

Not sure if this is an urban legend or true, but he's supposed to be so stupid i he gives an autograph he just signs an x, because he can't read or write.

You're confusing him with 'Arry

In today's Times, it is reported that Remy turned down Newcastle because "Newcastle is in the North, where it is cold", & "Harry has been trying to sign me for 3 years". It also states that Newcastle offered him £40k per week, & QPR offered £80k per week, but "money had nothing to do with it".

His agent stated that if QPR are relegated, he will demand a transfer. 

He'll still kiss the badge when he scores.

Gotta love the Loyalty Kiss.

I don't know why they say money has nothing to do with it. If somebody offered me double wages to do the same job it would be a big consideration. Suggesting the rate of pay isn't a factor when negotiating a contract sounds kinda foolish to me. If I was a footballer moving abroad wages would be the first thing on my agenda. Remy doesn't owe any loyalty to either club so wages and location are exactly the reasons he chose QPR. Once you've secured a good contract tho there's nothing stopping a player giving 100% for their new club. I don't think cutting a good deal auto makes you a disloyal wanker.

How did the hammers not win today? reprijmsdogijufdsoigfwjeak

Do you think Qpr recent additions to the squad will get them to survive this year or do you think it's not going to be enough this time round ?

They are doomed, imo. Very doomed.

WOW.

Samba £100K PER week.

£12.5M.

Highest paid player at Spurs is £80K a week, so just unbelievable really.

That's a ridiculous amount of money.  Is Harry trying to replicate what he did at Portsmouth?

Surely QPR will be bust if they go down?  That Samba deal is LUDICROUS.

24 signings in 13 months? Surely this has to be some sort of record

Have to blame the chairman really.  I mean what sort of person allows Hughes to bring in Cesar on enourmous wages just weeks after bringing in Green as well?

Doesn't Mittal earn about £10mil a day?

All money owed is to directors no ulike Pompey and others I think?

Mittal is richer than Bill Gates.

Recent rumours have suggested he has been losing interest in QPR, but who knows for sure?

I know I'd much rather get relegated than go through what Pompey have been through.

Odemwingie bowled on down there in his motor even though WBA have said he's not got permission to speak to QPR :D

Not quite, he lost 40% (£7 billion) of his assumed wealth in 2011.

I'd not mind being £10 billion behind him even now, though.

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
QPR refused Peter Odemwingie entry to Loftus Road after the striker tries to force his move through. #SSN




You couldn't make this stuff up

Unbelievable, totally deluded. Good at burning bridges though.

The interview through the window 'arry style was comedy too though, proclaiming his love for West Brom while he's parked up at Loftus Road!

Modern football eh?

Samba on £100k a week

The clown from WBA trying to force through a transfer.

Total joke.

Stuff like this is the reason I'm a ludite who refuses to buy Sky and help fund it.

I don't know who is paying Samba 100k per week but Sky money certainly isn't funding it.

Jermaine Jenas?! What's the point of that?

Modern football is funded by a combination of rich owners and massively increased revenue from TV deals.

Samba and Odemwingie are personifications of what all that breeds.

replace dyer?

I've always thought he's a good player.

Jenas has played 25 games in 4 seasons

Got to be a big gamble to give him a two and a half year contract, on the assumption he'll stay fit

needed someone to fill Kieron Dyer's boots?

18 months according to Sky.

He's a talented player but the fans lost patience with him not working hard enough on the pitch and being sloppy with his passing.

Not convinced he offers a lot to QPR but he should nevertheless be in the 16 every week if fit.

would not be anywhere a premiership 16 for me

struggled to last a game when on loan at forest showed glimpses of quality but an 18 month contract jesus

I guess I am just biased towards him, because it's so rare to hear an intelligent footballer speak.

I don't think there will be any spurs fans upset about this. However, I think he's a better player than he's shown at spurs.

he is a top pro by all accounts

never had the self belief to play at the highest level i do not doubt his ability

fail to really see how he is now going to show it after not playing much for a while and playing for a team struggling

Joshua in Cardiff, via text to BBC website: "Odemwingie woooahhh, Odemwingie woooahhh, he drove to QPR, they left him in his car!"

http://newsthump.com/2013/02/01/next-qpr-squad-photo-to-be-shot-in-cinemascope/
Funny article.

has become so carefree when it comes to spending other people’s money that he thinks ‘fiscal prudence’ is a French left-back

 ;D

Do QPR fans think they would have been better off keeping Warnock?

what do you think of remy at chisel so far Keith? Been watching a lot?

I don't think he'll ever be a huge success at a top 4 club, because teams defend so deep against them it neutralises his lightening pace which is his main asset.

Think he'll score goals where ever he goes, but he's better off at a club which isn't challenging for the title.

exactly what I thought too, he is really quick and is better when he has 1 second to think rather than 3. Has too much time on the ball at Chelsea and loses confidence when he makes mistakes.

Way better suited to a team challenging for 5-8th I think.

A Southampton fan Tweeted this photo of the view he had from his £38 seat at Loftus Road.



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I've sat in the position with that view a couple of times.

And they are sold as "diabolical view" seats. So it shouldn't have been any surprise he couldn't see much.

£38 is a bit toppy though.

If suitably marketed, "restricted view" or whatever, I suppose it's just about OK, but to me, that means there is a column, a stanchion, or whatever in my line of sight, not a full-blown gantry. Having said that, I'm rather fond of gantries.

Here's my favourite gantry. It's called a "superspan", & spans 70 metres. Proper beaut, that.

Incred.



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Oh, they have "restricted view" seats too. Far better viewing than this.

But this one is "diabolical view".

Which to even the most illiterate Saints supporter must suggest you won't see much.

Liability, or asset?

Camel, (as the sole QPR supporter on blonde), your view on Mr Barton.

Red card today, & if the man on the wireless is to be believed, that followed Yellow Cards in each of the previous 7 games.

Strike that question, I may have found the answer on Camel's Twitter feed.


Keith Hawkins @keiththecamel  ·  24m 24 minutes ago
Joey Barton. Once a wanker, always a wanker.

The only player I have despised more who played in the hoops is Vinnie Jones.

But Mr Barton is closing fast to claim the crown.

Gsm match now surely camel you are down.

Nope, we are definitely staying up.

Hopefully Sandro is fit to step in for the fool.

He's ten times the player Barton ever was. And a hundred times the man.

lolz this was your must win game without you realising it and you lost it.  Your schedule is awful. This was one of your easiest games left and you lost the 6 pointer, you are gone.

Don't think there are ever must win games in February.

I never had Hull down as one of the clubs we might finish above anyway.

The only question now is whether we can catch Bristol City for the title, because promotion is seemingly assured already.

Am poised to insert first "Sad" into thread title.

I'm a big Holly fanboy - might even have to funk for you while he's there.

You must have some midfield for Michael Doughty to be deemed surplus to requirements.

Is Conor about to do what he's done at his previous clubs and suddenly explode after a settling-in period? Hope so, has such a good attitude.

Washington was excellent against Reading.

We played a pressing game and I shudder to think how many miles CW ran. I'm tired just thinking about it.

The midfield is definitely the strong point of this side. Ryan Manning, last years star, couldn't even get in the squad on Saturday

Played 2

Won 2

Drawn 0

Lost 0

Goals For 3

Goals Against 0





I rest my case.

We're on our way.


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5bRr0Tp-r8

FFS, are we going to have to endure a season of Camel crowing?

Not said a word about QPR for 27 years, now he's all over the thread.

Outrageous, really.

That chant really grates. Was all I heard in Brighton from Jan onwards. Interesting to see what they replace it with this season.

We're on our way, to the Champions League, we're on our way.

More like - We're on our way, to the Championship, we're on our way

Didn't realise Palace sang it too!

BIG game in West London tonight.


https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/efl-cup/qpr-v-brentford/winner

Someone is going to be on the end of a Bees spanking soon - averaging 19 shots a game. Be lovely if it's the Raa Raas.

Keep your mind on your relegation struggle please.

Hah!

Concentrating on the league.

Anyone know where I can find the latest score tonight?

Concentrating very hard on the league.

Like

Morning all.

BIG game tonight, second only in West London derbies to Brentford v Fulham.

QPR "entertain" - not sure that's the correct adjective - Fulham, at Loftus Road.

Rather surprisingly (to me), the Bookies make QPR 9/4 in places, & better than 2/1 everywhere, whereas the visitors are as short as 6/5, 13/10 in places.

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/qpr-v-fulham/winner


I'm not sure those prices make sense to me, & I may be forced to have a small wager on QPR.  

I wonder if blonde's only QPR supporter will dare commit himself before the game?

I find it impossible to despise Fulham in the same manner I do Chelsea and Brentford.

Fulham are like that Uncle you only see at family occasions who is always good for a laugh or two, and never offends anyone.

Then you forget about for a couple of years.

Ha, good analogy. Fulham don't seem to stir much emotion, & are largely inoffensive it seems to me.

What family analogy would you use for, say, Chelsea, &, (I may regret this...) Arsenal?

Big night tonight, Sky TV Cameras & everything, when the itinerants of Loftus Road entertain - rofl @ entertain - their better-bred West London neighbours.

QPR are very much the underdogs, despite being at home.

QPR 15/8

Brentford 11/8

Draw, 5/2.   

Queens Park Houdinis

Urgh

Hurts me to say, but Brentford are on a completely different level to QPR right now.

Benham is doing with them what Bloom has done at Brighton.

Woods, Vibe, Canos and Watkins all absolutely different class. And when they are sold, the money earned will be spent by replacing them with even better players. You can bet your life on that.

It's the power of numbers and analytics over traditional scouting and buying and selling of players.

I think your are pretty accurate in your assessment of Benham's approach there Keith but yesterday also highlighted the pitfall of the developement churn - you are in a perpetual state of inexperience. No way a more experienced team concedes that second goal. Ultimately that'll be the difference between a good midtable side and a true promotion challenger.

To be fair we have pretty much a complete back four out injured.

Bidwell is the only one who played last night who'd be first choice I think. (Although what is going on in Holloway's head is anyone's guess)