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Title: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 01:35:09 PM jumping on the bandwagon of the football team threads heres one for the team i love chelsea (or chelski as some affectionatly refer to us ;-)
will chelsea recover from this slump and win a trophy this year? should ancellotti stay or go? did the sacking of ray wilkins really make that much difference? is frank lampard the most underrated player by opposing fans? why oh why does kalou still get to wear the shirt? and how good is josh mceachran going to be? thatl do for starters be interesting hearing the views of both chelsea and non chelsea supporters. please guys keep it fairly civil ;-) Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2011, 01:46:29 PM A lot of the team is ageing at the same time before our eyes isn't it?
Carvalho has turned out to be a huge miss? Apart from Josh Mac, are there any kids coming through? Has the Youth policy at Chelsea been up to scratch? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 10, 2011, 01:49:25 PM will chelsea recover from this slump and win a trophy this year? Might recover from the slump but the only thing I can see us winning is FA cup. should ancellotti stay or go? I personally want him to go. Seems like he's lost his way. did the sacking of ray wilkins really make that much difference? - Maybe not directly but something obviously not right within the club and may have something do with the overrall downfall. is frank lampard the most underrated player by opposing fans? Maybe not so much this season cos of injury and him not getting younger, but definitely YES to this question. why oh why does kalou still get to wear the shirt? - Useless runt. Apparently he 'trains well'. Marv! please guys keep it fairly civil ;-) Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: celtic on January 10, 2011, 01:51:43 PM Whats the thread title mean?
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 10, 2011, 01:52:58 PM A lot of the team is ageing at the same time before our eyes isn't it? Carvalho has turned out to be a huge miss? Apart from Josh Mac, are there any kids coming through? Has the Youth policy at Chelsea been up to scratch? I had a feeling Ricardo was leaving the Bridge. For my birthday in May, we went to Funky Buddha and it also happened to be the same day Chelsea won the FA cup. The team were out celebrating in a club close by yet Carvalho was in the club on his own (until we chased him out obv). Big loss. Excellent player. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 01:57:54 PM A lot of the team is ageing at the same time before our eyes isn't it? Carvalho has turned out to be a huge miss? Apart from Josh Mac, are there any kids coming through? Has the Youth policy at Chelsea been up to scratch? thats the problem tighty there is no in between everyone is either to old or to young. the youth policy is now very good at chelsea (something mr abramovich was very keen on) but i dont think they done their sums right regarding the age of the squad. there are some good young lads coming through who i think will make it into regulars over the next couple of seasons. van aanholt looks a perfect successor for ashley cole and i think bruma will definatly make the grade at centre back once he fills out a bit more. kakuutta is promising but again needs to fill out but his talent is very raw. there are others from a very successful youth side awaiting a chance. carva is a massive loss though he wasnt at his best last season so maybe he had become a bit stale and had to get away. but no replacement was bought and once alex got injured we were always gona struggle for a partner for terry or even worse when jt is out as none of the rest are comfortable playing left side in a central defensive pairing. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 01:59:11 PM A lot of the team is ageing at the same time before our eyes isn't it? Carvalho has turned out to be a huge miss? Apart from Josh Mac, are there any kids coming through? Has the Youth policy at Chelsea been up to scratch? I had a feeling Ricardo was leaving the Bridge. For my birthday in May, we went to Funky Buddha and it also happened to be the same day Chelsea won the FA cup. The team were out celebrating in a club close by yet Carvalho was in the club on his own (until we chased him out obv). Big loss. Excellent player. on his day one of the best who made JT look better than he actually is (is that possible ;-)lol) Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 10, 2011, 01:59:34 PM Whats the thread title mean? It's the Chelsea thread. The celery comes from times when Chelsea used to travel up to Cambridge United. Fans used to steal celery from allotments and wave them at games. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: gatso on January 10, 2011, 02:05:01 PM Whats the thread title mean? It's the Chelsea thread. The celery comes from times when Chelsea used to travel up to Cambridge United. Fans used to steal celery from allotments and wave them at games. first time I've ever heard the cambridge connection. has someone been pulling your leg? celery thing always used to happen in the shed Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 02:06:35 PM Whats the thread title mean? its from a chelsea song mate Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 02:09:00 PM Whats the thread title mean? It's the Chelsea thread. The celery comes from times when Chelsea used to travel up to Cambridge United. Fans used to steal celery from allotments and wave them at games. first time I've ever heard the cambridge connection. has someone been pulling your leg? celery thing always used to happen in the shed same here gatso. what year you talking about cos? still used regularly at chelsea games now, especially at wembley and in the so-bar in fulham rd before games Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 10, 2011, 02:29:32 PM when googling to get a specific answer of when it started etc i found this...
http://www.kgbanswers.co.uk/why-do-chelsea-fans-sing-about-celery-and-throw-it-on-the-pitch/3258262 Sigh. gg me? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Camel on January 10, 2011, 03:53:58 PM My reasons to hate Chelsea list:
David Speedie Ashley Cole Kerry Dixon Graham Roberts Dougie Rougvie John Terry Frank Lampard Dave Beasant Graeme Le Saux Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club Peter Kenyon Ken Moncou Ron Harris and miost of all of course: Vinnie fcking Jones. Reasons not to hate Chelsea quite so much: Zola Nevin Gullit Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: LOLICALL on January 10, 2011, 03:57:08 PM My reasons to hate Chelsea list: David Speedie Ashley Cole Kerry Dixon Graham Roberts Dougie Rougvie John Terry Frank Lampard Dave Beasant Graeme Le Saux Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club Peter Kenyon Ken Moncou Ron Harris and miost of all of course: Vinnie fcking Jones. Reasons not to hate Chelsea quite so much: Zola Nevin Gullit Dennis Wise Jody Morris... Is Ashley Cole the most hated player in the country? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: George2Loose on January 10, 2011, 04:00:34 PM My reasons to hate Chelsea list: David Speedie Ashley Cole Kerry Dixon Graham Roberts Dougie Rougvie John Terry Frank Lampard Dave Beasant Graeme Le Saux Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club Peter Kenyon Ken Moncou Ron Harris and miost of all of course: Vinnie fcking Jones. Reasons not to hate Chelsea quite so much: Zola Nevin Gullit Missed off Roman and reasons not to hate Chelsea? Gullit? WTF? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 04:18:47 PM gullit was absolute class. so much time on the ball and even at 35 stood out in most games he played. (and b4 it is said not for his big nose) one of the greatest players ive ever had the pleasure of watching live
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Camel on January 10, 2011, 04:21:59 PM I hate myself for forgetting Dennis Wise.
Gullit was indeed class, still is.. one of the best tv analysts imo. He always seemed to have time time on the ball, so effortless. A truly world class player who was underrated because he played with so many great players in his Holland teams. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 10, 2011, 04:31:30 PM HATE is an insanely silly word to use in that context Keith.
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Camel on January 10, 2011, 04:38:24 PM HATE is an insanely silly word to use in that context Keith. Not in Dennis Wise's case it isn't. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2011, 04:39:48 PM I told myself I would stay neutral about all individuals on all the club threads
For Dennis Wise I make an exception though. Horrible man, and one of the very few the word "Hate" applies to for me Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 10, 2011, 04:40:44 PM How come?
Loved wisey! He was captain when I was a boy and had a season ticket at the bridge. hero. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: LOLICALL on January 10, 2011, 04:41:58 PM I told myself I would stay neutral about all individuals on all the club threads For Dennis Wise I make an exception though. Horrible man, and one of the very few the word "Hate" applies to for me Ashley Cole, surely? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2011, 04:42:51 PM How come? Loved wisey! He was captain when I was a boy and had a season ticket at the bridge. hero. He, and his agent the equally odious Eric Hall, took my club into administration after we sacked him after La Manga (where he broke Callum Davidson's jaw). Others are culpable. Crap directors, poor managers etc etc but Wise did it out of spite. Nasty pair of chancers, he and Hall Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 10, 2011, 04:44:15 PM How come? Loved wisey! He was captain when I was a boy and had a season ticket at the bridge. hero. He, and his agent the equally odious Eric Hall, took my club into administration after we sacked him after La Manga (where he broke Callum Davidson's jaw). Others are culpable. Crap directors, poor managers etc etc but Wise did it out of spite. Nasty pair of chancers, he and Hall Why is what Wise did, a reason to hate Chelsea? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2011, 05:07:57 PM How come? Loved wisey! He was captain when I was a boy and had a season ticket at the bridge. hero. He, and his agent the equally odious Eric Hall, took my club into administration after we sacked him after La Manga (where he broke Callum Davidson's jaw). Others are culpable. Crap directors, poor managers etc etc but Wise did it out of spite. Nasty pair of chancers, he and Hall Why is what Wise did, a reason to hate Chelsea? I don't. Don't like them that much but hate is way too strong a word. I was referring to Wise Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 10, 2011, 05:31:44 PM How come? Loved wisey! He was captain when I was a boy and had a season ticket at the bridge. hero. He, and his agent the equally odious Eric Hall, took my club into administration after we sacked him after La Manga (where he broke Callum Davidson's jaw). Others are culpable. Crap directors, poor managers etc etc but Wise did it out of spite. Nasty pair of chancers, he and Hall Why is what Wise did, a reason to hate Chelsea? I don't. Don't like them that much but hate is way too strong a word. I was referring to Wise He'd definitely REALLY like you. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2011, 05:37:00 PM How come? Loved wisey! He was captain when I was a boy and had a season ticket at the bridge. hero. He, and his agent the equally odious Eric Hall, took my club into administration after we sacked him after La Manga (where he broke Callum Davidson's jaw). Others are culpable. Crap directors, poor managers etc etc but Wise did it out of spite. Nasty pair of chancers, he and Hall Why is what Wise did, a reason to hate Chelsea? I don't. Don't like them that much but hate is way too strong a word. I was referring to Wise He'd definitely REALLY like you. I met him. He didn't. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 05:58:03 PM How come? Loved wisey! He was captain when I was a boy and had a season ticket at the bridge. hero. always had times for the fans, first inline for autographs and last to leave. head tennis with fans during stoppages during games. just read a little bit about the callum davidson incident and seems particularly nasty. was he successful in his sueing of the club for £2mil plus for wrongful dismissal? dennis wise in my eyes is a chelsea legend but i can see why so many non chelsea fans dislike/hate him Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 05:59:51 PM I told myself I would stay neutral about all individuals on all the club threads For Dennis Wise I make an exception though. Horrible man, and one of the very few the word "Hate" applies to for me Ashley Cole, surely? ashley cole isnt liked by chelsea fans let alone opposing fans. never really get why to be honest, what did he do that was so bad? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: AndrewT on January 10, 2011, 06:00:15 PM My reasons to hate Chelsea list: (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPBdK6Im3Gj897kEhDKprdVLB8DXUpJa_yL3qD3hVPIPDQTbWYyA) Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: nirvana on January 10, 2011, 06:26:07 PM My reasons to hate Chelsea list: (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPBdK6Im3Gj897kEhDKprdVLB8DXUpJa_yL3qD3hVPIPDQTbWYyA) oh yes & John Terry - epitomises just about everything I dislike in the chavvy end of England Always liked Fat Frank tho, never understood a lot of the dislike for him - perhaps I need to read more Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: gatso on January 10, 2011, 06:51:54 PM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: KarmaDope on January 10, 2011, 08:17:48 PM jumping on the bandwagon of the football team threads heres one for the team i love chelsea (or chelski as some affectionatly refer to us ;-) will chelsea recover from this slump and win a trophy this year? - Nope. Can't see them beating Utd/City. Best hope as mentioned is the FA Cup. should ancellotti stay or go? - Stay. did the sacking of ray wilkins really make that much difference? - It looks that way from my viewpoint but not entirely sure. Chelsea fans best answering this one. Have the tactics changed? Has the dressing room morale changed...eg are dressing room leaders changing because Ancelotti is likely to listen to different players? is frank lampard the most underrated player by opposing fans? - No, McEachran is lol. Seriously though, Lampard either looks brilliant or pure donkey plop. His injury and rustiness is making him look the latter so far...but then again he might have got some confidence this weekend. why oh why does kalou still get to wear the shirt? - Fuck knows. and how good is josh mceachran going to be? - Very, very good imo. thatl do for starters be interesting hearing the views of both chelsea and non chelsea supporters. - I'm a Liverpool fan. please guys keep it fairly civil ;-) Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: AndrewT on January 10, 2011, 08:21:56 PM Always liked Fat Frank tho, never understood a lot of the dislike for him - perhaps I need to read more Me too - though I rationalise this by considering Fat Frank to really be West Ham. Also Jose Mourinho - never could hate him either. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 10, 2011, 11:29:08 PM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club dont agree here, every club has that element of fans no more so chelsea than any other club Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: gatso on January 10, 2011, 11:35:43 PM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club dont agree here, every club has that element of fans no more so chelsea than any other club err, no they don't. only clubs who've had recent success have fans that fit this profile and sadly for you chelsea has the worst of them I feel sorry for people like you who've supported them through the shit times as the rest of the football world looks at the new tosser fans you've picked up and assumes you're all the same Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Baron on January 10, 2011, 11:43:23 PM I hate myself for forgetting Dennis Wise. Gullit was indeed class, still is.. one of the best tv analysts imo. He always seemed to have time time on the ball, so effortless. A truly world class player who was underrated because he played with so many great players in his Holland teams. Massively agree with this post but his tactical analysis is up there with Souness in terms of how bad it is at times Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Baron on January 10, 2011, 11:46:56 PM Seeing as the Utd fans dodged it.... how do Chelsea fans feel about financial fair play and it's effect on the team/transfers in future?
Also how highly do you rate Steve Clarke? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: mondatoo on January 11, 2011, 12:32:38 AM Gullit is an absolute clown,one of the worst managers we've had in my lifetime.Great player agreed,I've read a few ex Newcastle players books and he comes across like a complete knob.I'll leave others to hate on Wise since there's enough.
Loved watching Zola play,class personified. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 11, 2011, 02:26:14 AM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club dont agree here, every club has that element of fans no more so chelsea than any other club err, no they don't. only clubs who've had recent success have fans that fit this profile and sadly for you chelsea has the worst of them I feel sorry for people like you who've supported them through the shit times as the rest of the football world looks at the new tosser fans you've picked up and assumes you're all the same didnt the same happen with liverpool in the 70s and man u in the 90s? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: celtic on January 11, 2011, 02:27:58 AM I don't like Chelsea.
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 11, 2011, 02:33:02 AM Seeing as the Utd fans dodged it.... how do Chelsea fans feel about financial fair play and it's effect on the team/transfers in future? Also how highly do you rate Steve Clarke? personnally id like to see financial fair play. i would llike to see clubs forced to find and nurture young talent instead of spending out on overpriced prima donnas. as i said before one good thing abramovich has done is set up a good youth policy but its a shame its still a couple of seasons before it bares fruit. i rate steve clarke highly, was mourinhos right hand man and communicated well in the area between manager and player. he is a no nonsence guy who was whole hearted player which adheres him well to both players and fans. if i had a choice clarke or wilkins, clarke wins by a street. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 11, 2011, 02:34:00 AM I don't like Chelsea. i dont like short fat scotsman, lets call it quits aye ;-) Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 11, 2011, 02:39:17 AM Gullit is an absolute clown,one of the worst managers we've had in my lifetime.Great player agreed,I've read a few ex Newcastle players books and he comes across like a complete knob.I'll leave others to hate on Wise since there's enough. Loved watching Zola play,class personified. didnt say gullit was a great manager though to be fair he done well for us and i was gutted when batesy booted him out. but as a player he was world class. zola was class and at his best the greatest player i ever seen play live, a true gentleman too. if only he was a little bigger and stronger he would of had everything. gullit bought zola after saying he wasnt buying anyone else, when asked why he changed his mind he said if the best become available then you have to buy them he wasnt wrong! shame he was nearly 30 when he arrived, would loved to have had him from 25. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: celtic on January 11, 2011, 02:42:14 AM I don't like Chelsea. i dont like short fat scotsman, lets call it quits aye ;-) Racist ban please Mods. Went to Chelsea a few years ago for a friendly. Sure was fun. Not entirely sure the mob of 300 skinheads waiting outside Fulham Broadway were all genuine Chelsea fans but that kind of put me off them. Mourinho's lack of class when he won the UEFA cup v Celtic and the tie between Rangers and Chelsea fans were enough to make Chelsea my least favourite team in the Premiership. Oh and the fact that you Rookie & Greek support them too doesn't help their cause either :) Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: vegaslover on January 11, 2011, 07:09:25 AM I think Wilkins leaving has had a negative impact on the side, how much of it was going on behind the scenes and was about to come to the fore anyway only a few could say.
Frank very underrated IMO, both as a player and how he fits into the Chelsea team/system You might win a cup Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: Horneris on January 11, 2011, 08:04:37 AM Chelsea won't win anything this season but i don't think the manager should go. I don't see how Ancelotti, a man with 2 European cups under his belt, numerous Scuedttos and the English Double in his first season in charge suddenly turns into a bad manager over the space of a few months.
And i don't buy into that crap that Ray Wilkins leaving was an issue, the mans a clown. The one big issue imo was the injuries to Mr and Master Chelsea, Terry and Lampard. 2 players who are the absolute centre of the team and never get injured (well not for over 5 seasons both at the same time) were taken out of the team at the same time. Watching them during that period was like watching one of the Batman films if there were no Batman or Robin in them. In saying that, the squad should be strong enough to deal with this a lot better than they did (losing nearly every game) but its not. They need investment from Abramovich desperately. The bench a lot of the time in the last 3 months has been full of nobodies/youngsters and a lot weaker than the other top 5 or 6 teams (maybe even 9 or 10) in the premiership. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: LOLICALL on January 11, 2011, 09:20:39 AM Thoughts on Sturridge?
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 11, 2011, 09:27:36 AM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club lol bullshit, quantify this. Look at Man United, any of their fans actually live in Manc? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2011, 11:26:24 AM Chelsea won't win anything this season but i don't think the manager should go. I don't see how Ancelotti, a man with 2 European cups under his belt, numerous Scuedttos and the English Double in his first season in charge suddenly turns into a bad manager over the space of a few months. And i don't buy into that crap that Ray Wilkins leaving was an issue, the mans a clown. The one big issue imo was the injuries to Mr and Master Chelsea, Terry and Lampard. 2 players who are the absolute centre of the team and never get injured (well not for over 5 seasons both at the same time) were taken out of the team at the same time. Watching them during that period was like watching one of the Batman films if there were no Batman or Robin in them. In saying that, the squad should be strong enough to deal with this a lot better than they did (losing nearly every game) but its not. They need investment from Abramovich desperately. The bench a lot of the time in the last 3 months has been full of nobodies/youngsters and a lot weaker than the other top 5 or 6 teams (maybe even 9 or 10) in the premiership. Lampard has gone at the game imo. He's a shadow of the player he was 3 years ago (I thought this before his injury). Doesn't deserve to be in the team. And Terry is definitely in decline too, obv a centre back lasts a bit longer and he'll hang around like a bad smell for 2 or 3 seasons yet, but he certainly has been exposed more times this season than over the last 4 or 5. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 11, 2011, 11:41:53 AM Chelsea won't win anything this season but i don't think the manager should go. I don't see how Ancelotti, a man with 2 European cups under his belt, numerous Scuedttos and the English Double in his first season in charge suddenly turns into a bad manager over the space of a few months. And i don't buy into that crap that Ray Wilkins leaving was an issue, the mans a clown. The one big issue imo was the injuries to Mr and Master Chelsea, Terry and Lampard. 2 players who are the absolute centre of the team and never get injured (well not for over 5 seasons both at the same time) were taken out of the team at the same time. Watching them during that period was like watching one of the Batman films if there were no Batman or Robin in them. In saying that, the squad should be strong enough to deal with this a lot better than they did (losing nearly every game) but its not. They need investment from Abramovich desperately. The bench a lot of the time in the last 3 months has been full of nobodies/youngsters and a lot weaker than the other top 5 or 6 teams (maybe even 9 or 10) in the premiership. Lampard has gone at the game imo. He's a shadow of the player he was 3 years ago (I thought this before his injury). Doesn't deserve to be in the team. And Terry is definitely in decline too, obv a centre back lasts a bit longer and he'll hang around like a bad smell for 2 or 3 seasons yet, but he certainly has been exposed more times this season than over the last 4 or 5. Lampard definitely isn't the same he was 3/4 seasons ago but he needs time to get match fit again before we can say he doesn't deserve his place in the team. I cant think who I'd have there instead of him. Agree re: Terry. Brent: Just because Ancelotti has an excellent CV doesn't mean he hasn't lost control of the team. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2011, 12:02:17 PM Chelsea won't win anything this season but i don't think the manager should go. I don't see how Ancelotti, a man with 2 European cups under his belt, numerous Scuedttos and the English Double in his first season in charge suddenly turns into a bad manager over the space of a few months. And i don't buy into that crap that Ray Wilkins leaving was an issue, the mans a clown. The one big issue imo was the injuries to Mr and Master Chelsea, Terry and Lampard. 2 players who are the absolute centre of the team and never get injured (well not for over 5 seasons both at the same time) were taken out of the team at the same time. Watching them during that period was like watching one of the Batman films if there were no Batman or Robin in them. In saying that, the squad should be strong enough to deal with this a lot better than they did (losing nearly every game) but its not. They need investment from Abramovich desperately. The bench a lot of the time in the last 3 months has been full of nobodies/youngsters and a lot weaker than the other top 5 or 6 teams (maybe even 9 or 10) in the premiership. Lampard has gone at the game imo. He's a shadow of the player he was 3 years ago (I thought this before his injury). Doesn't deserve to be in the team. And Terry is definitely in decline too, obv a centre back lasts a bit longer and he'll hang around like a bad smell for 2 or 3 seasons yet, but he certainly has been exposed more times this season than over the last 4 or 5. Lampard definitely isn't the same he was 3/4 seasons ago but he needs time to get match fit again before we can say he doesn't deserve his place in the team. I cant think who I'd have there instead of him. Agree re: Terry. Brent: Just because Ancelotti has an excellent CV doesn't mean he hasn't lost control of the team. Deco or Ballack would be better than Lampard for starters. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on January 11, 2011, 12:03:41 PM Chelsea won't win anything this season but i don't think the manager should go. I don't see how Ancelotti, a man with 2 European cups under his belt, numerous Scuedttos and the English Double in his first season in charge suddenly turns into a bad manager over the space of a few months. And i don't buy into that crap that Ray Wilkins leaving was an issue, the mans a clown. The one big issue imo was the injuries to Mr and Master Chelsea, Terry and Lampard. 2 players who are the absolute centre of the team and never get injured (well not for over 5 seasons both at the same time) were taken out of the team at the same time. Watching them during that period was like watching one of the Batman films if there were no Batman or Robin in them. In saying that, the squad should be strong enough to deal with this a lot better than they did (losing nearly every game) but its not. They need investment from Abramovich desperately. The bench a lot of the time in the last 3 months has been full of nobodies/youngsters and a lot weaker than the other top 5 or 6 teams (maybe even 9 or 10) in the premiership. Lampard has gone at the game imo. He's a shadow of the player he was 3 years ago (I thought this before his injury). Doesn't deserve to be in the team. And Terry is definitely in decline too, obv a centre back lasts a bit longer and he'll hang around like a bad smell for 2 or 3 seasons yet, but he certainly has been exposed more times this season than over the last 4 or 5. Lampard definitely isn't the same he was 3/4 seasons ago but he needs time to get match fit again before we can say he doesn't deserve his place in the team. I cant think who I'd have there instead of him. Agree re: Terry. Brent: Just because Ancelotti has an excellent CV doesn't mean he hasn't lost control of the team. Deco or Ballack would be better than Lampard for starters. Ballack yes, Deco no. imo. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: gatso on January 11, 2011, 12:05:08 PM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club lol bullshit, quantify this. Look at Man United, any of their fans actually live in Manc? I don't think you've got more fans like this than utd, I'm saying I hate them more but didn't quote the hate part of camel's post Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 11, 2011, 12:24:39 PM Chelsea won't win anything this season but i don't think the manager should go. I don't see how Ancelotti, a man with 2 European cups under his belt, numerous Scuedttos and the English Double in his first season in charge suddenly turns into a bad manager over the space of a few months. And i don't buy into that crap that Ray Wilkins leaving was an issue, the mans a clown. The one big issue imo was the injuries to Mr and Master Chelsea, Terry and Lampard. 2 players who are the absolute centre of the team and never get injured (well not for over 5 seasons both at the same time) were taken out of the team at the same time. Watching them during that period was like watching one of the Batman films if there were no Batman or Robin in them. In saying that, the squad should be strong enough to deal with this a lot better than they did (losing nearly every game) but its not. They need investment from Abramovich desperately. The bench a lot of the time in the last 3 months has been full of nobodies/youngsters and a lot weaker than the other top 5 or 6 teams (maybe even 9 or 10) in the premiership. Lampard has gone at the game imo. He's a shadow of the player he was 3 years ago (I thought this before his injury). Doesn't deserve to be in the team. And Terry is definitely in decline too, obv a centre back lasts a bit longer and he'll hang around like a bad smell for 2 or 3 seasons yet, but he certainly has been exposed more times this season than over the last 4 or 5. Lampard definitely isn't the same he was 3/4 seasons ago but he needs time to get match fit again before we can say he doesn't deserve his place in the team. I cant think who I'd have there instead of him. Agree re: Terry. Brent: Just because Ancelotti has an excellent CV doesn't mean he hasn't lost control of the team. Deco or Ballack would be better than Lampard for starters. no way... even now lampard is better thasn those 2. i think frank wil be fine when fully match fit and has shown glimpses of his old self last few matches. as for terry, yes he has no pace but makes up with his reading of the game and his effort. dont agree with cos he isnt on the decline he has been our best defender by miles since his return from injury Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 11, 2011, 12:26:12 PM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club lol bullshit, quantify this. Look at Man United, any of their fans actually live in Manc? I don't think you've got more fans like this than utd, I'm saying I hate them more but didn't quote the hate part of camel's post have u any proof of this gatso or is it through personal experience u come to this conclusion? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: gatso on January 11, 2011, 12:30:24 PM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club lol bullshit, quantify this. Look at Man United, any of their fans actually live in Manc? I don't think you've got more fans like this than utd, I'm saying I hate them more but didn't quote the hate part of camel's post have u any proof of this gatso or is it through personal experience u come to this conclusion? proof that I hate your new fans more than I hate fans of other clubs? not sure such a thing exists Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 11, 2011, 12:49:33 PM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club lol bullshit, quantify this. Look at Man United, any of their fans actually live in Manc? I don't think you've got more fans like this than utd, I'm saying I hate them more but didn't quote the hate part of camel's post have u any proof of this gatso or is it through personal experience u come to this conclusion? proof that I hate your new fans more than I hate fans of other clubs? not sure such a thing exists i mean that there are more at celsea than other clubs? remember everyone was a new fan at some time ducy? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: gatso on January 11, 2011, 12:53:43 PM sigh, read what I've written that you've quoted. specifically the bit where I say I don't think there are more
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: david3103 on January 11, 2011, 01:36:29 PM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club lol bullshit, quantify this. Look at Man United, any of their fans actually live in Manc? errmmm Yes? 7,808 of them with season tickets according to the last (only?) study of where season ticket holders for the two Manchester clubs live (2001) found that there were more Manchester Postcodes on the Old Traffod list than there were on the Maine Rd list. Yet Citeh continue to claim the 'local' tag. Loads more in the peripheral postcodes too. Do Chelsea fans all live in Chelsea? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: Horneris on January 11, 2011, 08:23:41 PM wow, never disagreed with Camel this strongly before. Terry and Lampard are great players, they would both walk into any side in the world bar Barcelona.
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Baron on January 12, 2011, 12:18:21 AM Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club this more so than any ever club lol bullshit, quantify this. Look at Man United, any of their fans actually live in Manc? errmmm Yes? 7,808 of them with season tickets according to the last (only?) study of where season ticket holders for the two Manchester clubs live (2001) found that there were more Manchester Postcodes on the Old Traffod list than there were on the Maine Rd list. Yet Citeh continue to claim the 'local' tag. Loads more in the peripheral postcodes too. Do Chelsea fans all live in Chelsea? What's this as a proportion of the stadia? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Baron on January 12, 2011, 12:22:01 AM wow, never disagreed with Camel this strongly before. Terry and Lampard are great players, they would both walk into any side in the world bar Barcelona. Halfway for me. Terry is older and not as good as he was, Lampard reads the game better for me. He's less effective without the wingers of Chelsea's past and may have lost a bit of pace but fml his football brain is riddick. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: turny on January 13, 2011, 03:41:00 PM we are in the middle of a crisis, we have an owner with a few quid so why the f@ck aren't we even linked with anyone so far in this transfer window????? :dontask:
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: TightEnd on January 25, 2011, 12:35:38 PM Patrick Van Anholt coming to us on loan
Talk to me! Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Baron on January 25, 2011, 08:20:13 PM Atletico reject a £52m bid for Aguero and Godin - wow!
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: vegaslover on January 28, 2011, 05:43:50 PM we are in the middle of a crisis, we have an owner with a few quid so why the f@ck aren't we even linked with anyone so far in this transfer window????? :dontask: Torres, Your thoughts Turny? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2011, 07:02:40 PM all been great players but the spine of the team Cech, Terry, Lampard and to an extent Drogba is ageing game by game in front of us
Torres or not, Luiz or not, these four need replacing on a 12 month view before Chelsea are really competitive for the league again Discuss. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: vegaslover on February 06, 2011, 07:08:47 PM Cech seems to be the immediate concern.
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: GreekStein on February 07, 2011, 01:02:33 PM all been great players but the spine of the team Cech, Terry, Lampard and to an extent Drogba is ageing game by game in front of us Torres or not, Luiz or not, these four need replacing on a 12 month view before Chelsea are really competitive for the league again Discuss. Definitely agree with the above. We need some new young blood. I personally want Ancellotti out. Think he's an overrated guy. Maybe once have I seen him change a game. Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: paulhouk03 on February 07, 2011, 01:12:06 PM i fuking hate celery
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: kinboshi on February 08, 2011, 12:21:58 PM I don't pretend to understand all this, but surely it's a very difficult situation for Chelsea?
http://andersred.blogspot.com/2011/02/chelsea-200910-results-spin-and-red-ink.html Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: The Baron on February 10, 2011, 08:55:27 PM Cech seems to be the immediate concern. WTF has happened to Cech? Surely it's longer than just bad form now? Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: pleno1 on March 02, 2011, 01:06:01 PM wtf, David Luiz was sooooo drity/skillful yesterday.
Title: Re: official thread for celery lovers Post by: boldie on March 02, 2011, 01:08:49 PM wtf, David Luiz was sooooo drity/skillful yesterday. Yeah he looked very tasty indeed. Though he does look like Sideshow Bob |