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Title: Getting value Post by: Royal Flush on December 29, 2005, 05:12:34 AM [Dec 29 04:48:24] : Hand Start.
[Dec 29 04:48:24] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has $168,220 [Dec 29 04:48:24] : Seat 8 : JELLYFISH has $161,780 [Dec 29 04:48:24] : JELLYFISH is the dealer. [Dec 29 04:48:24] : Dealing Hole Cards. [Dec 29 04:48:24] : Seat 6 : Flush Royal has 7s 8s [Dec 29 04:48:35] : JELLYFISH called 3,000 [Dec 29 04:48:37] : Flush Royal checked. [Dec 29 04:48:37] : Dealing flop. [Dec 29 04:48:37] : Board cards [6h 3h 5d] [Dec 29 04:48:39] : Flush Royal checked. [Dec 29 04:48:40] : JELLYFISH bet 10,000 [Dec 29 04:48:45] : Flush Royal called 10,000 [Dec 29 04:48:45] : Dealing turn. [Dec 29 04:48:45] : Board cards [6h 3h 5d 7d] [Dec 29 04:48:46] : Flush Royal checked. [Dec 29 04:48:48] : JELLYFISH checked. [Dec 29 04:48:48] : Dealing river. [Dec 29 04:48:48] : Board cards [6h 3h 5d 7d 4s] This is headsup in a MTT, 1st pays 1100 2nd 700 It's you first to speak on the river, the board reads 34567 you have the straight to the 8, your oppo is very aggresive. It's a 32,000 pot, you have 152k he has 145k. Do you check, or bet, if you bet how much? Title: Re: Getting value Post by: totalise on December 29, 2005, 08:13:47 AM Is he good aggressive, bad aggressive, or neutral?
If he's bad, you can just stick it all in, he probably calls. If he is good, you probably have to bet. Its a bit like the co-operative strategy in the prisoners dilemma (loosely), if you check, he checks, but if you bet, he will feel affronted, and quite possibly try and raise you out the pot... so you obviously need to bet an amount that a) looks like a steal b) leaves him with enough FE to attempt the steal. 40k is about the right amount here. Too little, and he is prone to getting suspicious of a value bet, and too much will likely get a fold from him Title: Re: Getting value Post by: Graham C on December 29, 2005, 09:11:30 AM Bet half the pot, wait for the reraise, then go all in hoping he hasnt got 8 9
Title: Re: Getting value Post by: TightEnd on December 29, 2005, 12:38:27 PM Ahh, Jellyfish...loose aggressive fish.
Bet one third of the pot feigning weakness and pray he aint there with 89 Title: Re: Getting value Post by: thetank on December 29, 2005, 02:19:06 PM I bet twice the pot if he's loose aggressive, probably get a call.
If he's tight aggressive, I bet half the pot for value. Title: Re: Getting value Post by: TightEnd on December 29, 2005, 02:20:28 PM I bet twice the pot if he's loose aggressive, probably get a call. If he's tight aggressive, I bet half the pot for value. but you want him to sniff weakness, so show him it and then wait for the re-raise Title: Re: Getting value Post by: thetank on December 29, 2005, 02:24:51 PM If he's loose aggressive I'm happy with just the call of the big bet.
If he's tight aggressive, the half pot sized bet allows him plenty room to sniff weakness and make a move. Title: Re: Getting value Post by: Royal Flush on December 29, 2005, 02:32:26 PM I moved in, i really though he would call and he took up to the 10 second warning.
I think the correct play was either betting 30k and letting him raise, or check raising him as i can't see him checking |