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i have had a shit few months financially..... although this should not really come into it!

my van failed its mot total of £700 to get it through....the van is v reg ldv convoy and i could not see the point in throwing good money after bad

so i scraped and i do mean scraped the money together and went to the auctions and picked up nice 2001 transit van.

now this is the thing was transferring all my kit over and a guy who lives up the road (border line alcoholic) comes up to me and this is the conversation

"nice new van"

"thanks mate"

"selling your old one ?"

"yes"

"how much"

"£600 mot and tax due at end of the month"

"give you £500"

"£550"

"£500 AND I GO AND GET THE CASH NOW"

"go get the cash dude"

now should i have told him about the £700 its going to cost to get mot or ..............

is it his own fault i mean he never even test drive it or asked any questions

Think u know you should tell him Lee

really?

pretty shitty tbh

caveat emptor for me  - his hard luck

How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot etc?

I doubt you'd be sitting there thinking, "should have checked, guess that serves me right".

i would of test drove it and asked at least some questions

how would you feel if you took it for a test drive and it seemed fine then you found out that it had just failed an mot even though the guy selling it had told you that was due in a month? clearly trying to deceive and it sucks

+1

I especially like the negotiating on ur part.

Put it this way, you wouldn't have started a thread if you felt confident that what you had done wasn't in fact wrong.

I'm sure you're a nice person etc, but doing what you did is deceitful and dishonest imo.

i suck i was going to take it to scrap yard !!
but this guy wanted to give me £500  double what scrap value is !!! guess i just a tosser like Mr hopkin

These two things are you trying to make small justifications to yourself that your actions are ok.

This is a pretty scummy thing to do really.

Perfectly fine. The buyer knows a shitty old van isn't sailing thru a mot and so tellin him the mot is due is telling him to expect further costs. If he doesn't want to investigate the extent of those inevitable extra costs that's up to him. Don't know why you should force that info onto him when you're trying to sell your van. Why don't you sit him down and continue to convince him not to buy the van by harping on about the other bad points like the acceleration is crap and the seats smell? Lol. He prob has a mechanic mate who can do the mot for a fraction of the price the garage quoted or maybe he's not planning to mot it. I would tell friends or close neighbours I knew but not a random borderline alcoholic from down the road. Lol at borderline alcoholic. wtf?

justifying to myself about being skint....yes

border line alcoholic ......just an observation of anyone in the real world he almost certainly wont even bother getting an mot if he does it will be dodgy

you did nothing wrong lee, if the guys foolish enough to buy it without a testdrive or looking it over then its sold as seen and far from morally wrong.

but you chose the wrong forum if you wanted your backslapped mate more saints here than the vatican ;-)

thanks dude

Even Hopkin wouldn't stoop this low.

lol
i would love to know how many would do the same in my postion i mean i never even advertised it
thanks

im sure he would and probably high five the geezer after he handed the money over lol

No way I'd rather scrap it than grim someone for a few hundo.

oh well i must be an evil tosser then ...lol

quite surprised at how many thought i was really wrong glad a couple posted i done nothing wrong

Why post this at all ? I once nicked a Picnic bar from a supermarket but I would never tell anyo.....doh !

In all seriousness Lee I can't see anything wrong with what you've done whatsoever.

If someone buys a van for £500 they know it's shit and needs money spending to make it half decent.

It's not your job to tell them how much needs spending.

Don't worry about it.

seriously i never asked for a grand ffs

it had 6 almost new tyres and would get £20 each for and £250 scrap ...

just wanted a reaction cos Ive  not posted for a few days

thanks matt

Selling a shit old van with no mot isn't a grim. The buyer is getting exactly what he's paying for. A shit old van with no mot. However, if he'd knocked in a bottle of scotch that day and you convinced him he was buying a Ferrari that would be a bit slack.

that's why i posted how the conversation went .....i never sold him it he bought it !!!

Hilarious.

If you bought a V reg van for 500 quid would you honestly be shocked when it failed it's MOT and needed a shed load spending on it to pass?

I wondered why I had a van on my drive

ill  collect the monkey at the  weekend at dtd

I thought you might be the unlucky buyer until I saw the 'borderline' alcoholic.

Clearly someone else.

once it's failed an MOT the old one automatically expires. van has no MOT.

In fact I think taking all this man's money is quite a good thing. He will have nothing left to spend on beer and will sober up to the realities of life. His kids will prob thank you for it.

i checked this at the  garage it was 26th july and garage said it was still valid untill its expiry on the 30th

it gives you time to get the work carried out

no but I'd be pissed off when the mot guys mentioned that it had failed a test just before I bought it when the person I bought it from had only said that it was due for a test

About 15 years ago one of my mates got his head kicked in for doing a dodgy deal on car and not telling the whole truth, just sayin.........

i he goes to the same mot testing station of course

that would be fun

i'll meet em in the middle :)

http://www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/

ok middle seems fair

not since they computerised it. there's a fair chance they'll mention it when it fails on the exact same things as they'll wonder why he didn't fix after the last test

If you had advertised it or tried to offer it to him it would be bad, but seeing as he approached you and clearly wanted it then it's on him imo

Nah...his fault,his bad beat

However...bad karma surely for you

All paper work complete? Will you be getting a nasty shock when he's emptied the off licence into the back of it a gunpoint and driven through shit loads of speed cameras? :)

^^ this ^^

and "sold as seen" on receipt

we don't do morals@FTP

uncle Howie

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I've had 3 ldv convoys in the last 8 years mate and as long as you got a mate who can do the work on then then pretty much anything can be done  on the cheap. Good little work horses and we used to just bung all the ladders in which was a god send because I lost count how many times ladders slid of the roof racks of the estate cars I used to use (montego's lol).

You don't mention if the purchaser has come back and comPlained and if he hasn't then don't let it bother you. £500 is a decent price and if you are using it for business it pays for itself in no time. I am pretty sure that everyone knows that you are decent fella and are just joking that you trimmed this guy. I bet he is sat thinking that he has ripped you for £50 by not giving you what you wanted

Of course you did wrong, and you know it.

Could have easily got £650 for it.

yea done all paperwork immediately and the obv sold as seen on the receipt

no not herd nor seen from him the van is on his drive !!

Perfetly fine mate, you sold a clapped out old banger and he gets what he paid for.

Yeah, the local alcoholic has rinsed you mate. If the van's still there go round and have words. I'd want my nifty back but would settle for £20 and 4 cans.

Mantis, how would you feel if this happened to your friend Gareth?

this is a very useful thread. I've compiled a list of people to never buy anything from

You've got a good past record with cars, haven't you?

How would I feel if Gareth bought a van for £500. I suppose normal.

tbf it's been a number of years since I was in a burning/exploding/crashing vehicle

When you say the MOT is due I think it's down to him to ask you if you're aware of any problems etc. If you lie at this point then yes that would be wrong. But as he didn't even ask it's his problem imo.

gatso, you've just had a few cans in the park and now you're wobbling your way home down the road where leethefish lives. You are intrigued to notice a TV crew on the corner. Upon investigation you discover that they are filming an episode of The Bill. There is drama on set thou cos the villain's shitty ldv convoy has broken down and they can't continue recording the episode. They will pay 1k if they can source a replacement within the hour. You continue your journey down the road and run into leethefish transferring tools etc into his new van and find out he will sell you a shitty ldv convoy for £550. Would you be a real good neighbour and pass on the info about the van being worth 1k to the people up the street or would you just buy the van?

are they really still making the bill?

Feck knows. They're filming it for Dave or w/e.

Anybody...browsing a car boot sale and you see a ickle china plate you know is worth £200. The guy wants a fiver for it. Do you stop and educate him about the item's true value or do you just buy the mofo ickle china plate? I would prob beat the guy down to £3.50 myself.

strange analogies as they're not analogous. surely you should be asking if I'd sell a plate for £200 despite knowing that it's got a hairline crack in it that makes it worth a fiver

I wouldn't, not without making the buyer aware anyway

lol bang out of order you've just fucked him for £300 basically, i wouldn't be able to live with myself.

In these sort of debates, the people who seem to think all is fine, are the very ones who would complain the most vehemently if they realised they had been the victim of such practice.

lol, not really. surely you expect to pay through the nose to get a van you buy for £500 through it's MOT at the end of the same month? why do you think the guy is selling the van in the first place?

Just got a PM, seems there is another one for sale. 450 notes. Not bad! MOT due end of next month.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2648/4175925199_343125f9de.jpg)

elderly people get conned all day everyday by things that people on this forum would know are a con!  if an elderly woman approached and asked about the van would the MOT not be mentioned then?? Why would it be she should know the deal is too good to be true.

half you mugs are horrid

I agree with Cos

The real problem with life is that nobody thinks for themselves these days. They are reliant on being spoon fed info about how to get through life by others whilst they dribble all over the floor. Sorry, but if I see a guy transferring tools etc from his battered old £500 van with no mot to his newly purchased van I would find it quite simple to deduce that the owner isn't interested in continuing with his battered old van because errr it's battered. I would expect it to fail badly on the mot. If you guys can't deduce that yourselves then you should get up from your computer screens today and get some life experience about you. I would tell the old lady cos I'm happy to help old ladies. I'm not helping a fully grown man I don't know to cross a busy street really and that's why it's different.

not wanting to sound horrid coz some of us are worse than that but did you not think you was in on a rigged boxing match and try to take advantage of it on some tv show. thought i saw a link with you and bordy on it somewhere. everyone has a line in the sand they wont cross. not all lines are even in the sand, some are in the sea and some are in the dunes. my opinion is that lee reckons its worth £250 scrap, the guy has not complained so where is the problem.

just noticed gatso is a mod so that explains his opinion but you sir are the anti mod so would expect you to be more on the side of the op.

can you send me that link that you was the star of. ;)

hmmm are you a mod....errrr yup so that explains that as well. what you probably dont realise is that cos thinks that the horrid ones are those who are not being open and honest :)

your best post ever

Not the right thread to twist my words Herbatio Herbivore.

Already a bunch of morally fked people agreeing with one another when they shouldn't be (Trigg and Gatso etc have brains thank god) then Mantis is spouting his usual unnecessarily long drivel.

oh ok mate will discuss it in private soon. been a bit of a bad day for dropping bollocks...think i've just told someone in another thread that his job has been given to someone else. ffs hope i'm wrong now but heard it from the horses mouth

and i love Trigg as much as the next man.

Sorry for being long-winded.

Just amuses me when young boys with very little life experience who live in their parents house seek to lecture a much older and more experienced family man with proper bills to pay about life and morality. Easy to burn money off to randoms when the mortgage isn't due and the kids don't need new shoes imo.

same boat, except no mortgage but i seem to have to buy 3 pairs of shoes, trainers, sandals etc every other week. and what do the kids prefer...bloody crocs that their sister bought them for their birthdays. Crocs have to be the worst shoe ever.

maybe alcohol should be the first thing to go rather than morals, if things are tight. Id rather move in with mum trigg for eternity than live in a mansion with no mirrors.

Quite philosophical and agree. Didn't know leethefish was an alcoholic, thought it was the other guy.

lol at my thread knew this would be a good debate

great post

i would have done the same if i needed the cash but the poker gods wont be happy and you know you going to have a bad run unless you do a good turn but the question is what ??

I would have snap called and took the money. I know its not 100% right but fukit.

I think it is slightly different if you advertise the van on autotrader and sell it to a random but if a neighbour asked me I would have told him that it failed MOT and would cost £700 or whatever but was generally a good van other than that.  Then if he takes it you have no issue but if not you can advertise it if you so wish.

I've never been in a situation where I desperately needed money and if it came to feeding kids, buying shoes etc then i would prob do it but from what you've said this wasnt the case.  You had accepted you would get scrap value for the van but had a better offer which tested your morals but you took it and thats that. 

No worries, you've always been both long-winded and rubbish at making your posts succinct/interesting etc

Me being young and having few responsibilities has absolutely nothing to do whether I can be a good judge of morals and what's right or wrong. Likewise, being an old man with a family and kids who need shoes doesn't qualify you as a better or worse judge than someone older or younger than you.

lol @ playing the wise man card when you're the guy who was threatening to punch James Keys in the face not so long ago.

lol. who is tall enough to punch keys in the face. just followed celtics link to encore and found your blogs. good stuff but 4 aint enough.

Sorry about being long-winded and rubbish Cos.

I would deffo use my life experience to advise kids to stand up for themselves when they're being bullied. You are always eager to bring up the James Keys thread which I'm sure your friend appreciates a lot. As I recall, because it was some time ago, a full-time sponsored professional player told me, a recreational amateur player, to shut the fuck up and get off the PHA board because he didn't think my opinions about poker hands were of a good enough standard to warrant inclusion. He was generally condescending and very rude to somebody with far less experience than him. I thought telling a part-time player offering thoughts about poker hands to fuck off from the learning part of the forum was pretty slack really and advised James (from my superior life experience) that if he talked like that to people in real life he'd get a slap. Which he would. Hope this has cleared it up for you.

I could dredge up lots of your old posts that show you are unwise and a poor judge buddy, but my superior life experience tells me that would be rather immature, so I wont.

I dont think Keys minds me bringing that thread up. You bent just what exactly happened but that's to be expected from you and it's cleared up nothing.

I could bump pretty much all of your posts that prove you are a terrible judge of everything (I'll even leave out bumping your PHA contributions that prove you used to be terrible and haven't shown any signs of improvement) but I won't either.

Anyway you best get some sleep. Treadmills don't turn themselves on and the £15 f/o at Walsall won't win itself! gl

When I saw this thread I thought that leethefish was prob feeling kinda low, what with posting the scenario in the first place. Personally I can see both sides of the argument but considering he is scraping dollars together at present his actions with said random are borderline acceptable and I judged it was best to offer him some reassurance that what he did wasn't so bad and make him feel better. When I noticed that was the unpopular side of the debate I was drawn to the benefit of the doubt option even more, ha ha. I judge that when people are feeling bad and asking for a bit of reassurance in borderline situations giving the benefit of the doubt can be a good thing. When a guy is called dishonest and deceitful and what he did was shitty and scummy I feel compelled to help him out with a bit of balance. Your judgement however is to call the man's act scummy, making him feel worse than he does already. I don't know why you think your involvement itt or any other is superior to mine really.

Oh and experience has taught me working hard for a living and playing within your limits is sensible and nothing to be ashamed of. Mocking these things says what about your own character Greeky?

there are just some people who you would trust 1 million percent with money and your life, there are 2/3 people on this thread i would

Lend us a few hundred quid...

i just wrote out a really long post about  justifying it etc ..but changed my mind and deleted it to be honest deep down i am 50/50 whether i was morally correct or not
  
if you think i a scumbag then think that....but most of you dint even know me.

i started the thread cos one was not sure if i was wrong and i knew it would get a reaction   still unsure ..lol but good good debate

just for the record if the guy knocks on my door i would think again.... until then food on the table shoes/trainers on the kids feet (literally)

How can you have wrote a post justifying what you've said when you admit yourself you're 50/50 as to whether what you did was fair and correct thing to do?

What you've done isn't the worst thing in the world, but it was wrong. You know it deep down too as it's the reason you started this thread.

When buying an old car/van, you know that the MOT date is key.

 If there's a newish MOT  you know you can legally drive it for nearly a year without worrying too much about the unknown,probably expensive, cost of a new MOT.
If there is no MOT, or very little time remaining, you know you are taking a big risk cost wise, unless you get it checked.

You told him the date due....its then up to him. Ok you have had an estimate done......but who knows if that is correct?

 He didn't seem to care/ask any questions so, maybe he knows a cheap mechanic/dodgy MOT/run it illegally/ sell it on/take the top off and use it as a Greenhouse...........

Personally I might have said something like " it might need a bit of work to get through the MOT", but I don't think you did anything wrong.

Hmmmmmmm
That's why I deleted it

the guy obv aint got a problem. if he does and comes knocking then we can deal with it. people who think you did something wrong should take on the vacant mary whitehouse role

knock at my door ten Min's ago the guy who bought the van parked right outside!!!




brb

If its parked outside must still be working at least? :)

If you wait 10 minutes before answering the door he'll either have gone or be really mad.

Maybe he has come to say he found a wad of cash in the back of the boot, a similar amount to what it would have cost to fix it in the first place, and was turning it in - just to make you feel even more guilty.

I AM EATING MY DINNER AND THERE IS A KNOCK ON THE DOOR.....I LOOK OUT OF THE KITCHEN WINDOW SEE MY OLD VAN I THINK BOLLOCKS!!


"excuse me" ....as i get a whiff of beer/whiskey breath.

"how does the alarm work?".... oh i say just press that button it activates /deactivates

"OK thanks"

shiny new tax disc on passenger seat i notice

"did it pass the mot OK?" (had to ask ....)






"oh yea flew through"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........."thanks bye"

wtf .....the garage i used i have used for ten years so i know they ain't trying to do me........OMG    lol

wow, cool plot twist.

Think you are left with a new quandry

Either your garage did try and stiff you (not sure why ten years means anything btw, I had a similar should be loyal experience with a garage that tried to shaft me once) or you now know that someone is driving around in an unsafe car and havent told them yet.

rivered again... :)

How quaint.

Or that they have been for 10 years...

i had this van 6 years they always done the mot and last 3 at least flew through mot with the odd bulb tyre etc

metagame obv. :)

Love the updates. So it appears you've been getting it in the neck for not telling the local alcoholic that kwik fit are bastards, ha ha. That is pretty scummy imo. Would be lol if the next update is seeing your old van on his drive with a sign saying - For Sale, 12 mnths mot, 6 mnths tax, £1k.

£1k seems like a bargain if this happens ... i might put a bid in for £950

In my experience, it is easier to charge an existing customer who isn't shopping around a little extra than a new customer who is. Just a thought...

what did yours fail on

and [  ] MOT in my opinion

sounds like a "lad" - lads know how to get MOT's

Lee, can I borrow a saw?

now that depends if your a Gypsy or settled!!!!

 and whether or not i gonna get the fukka back or not .....yea of course what sort of saw ...i got a few

dewalt mitre saw
makita table /mitre saw
makita circular saw
hand saw
bow saw
reciprocating saw
hack saw
junior hack saw
tennon saw

which do you want boshi.....lol

just remembered ....also got a chain saw

He's had to go elsewhere. He was after a see-saw.

so any appologies from these do gooders who thoiught you was a twat. they obv dont live in the real world. fecking nimbys

lolz, apology for what? I thought he was out of order for trying to rip someone off. the fact that he's not very good at it changes nothing other than the comedy value of the thread

Yeah I think the alcoholic ripped you off mate. If you go back to the initial negotiations you say £600, he says £500, you say £550, and he says £500 again, and you accept. He bamboozled you there with his tricks and knew exactly what he was doing. Any gentleman would at least say £525 there and only a borderline alcoholic on the skank would say £500 again. And don't get me started on how kwik fit were trying to rip you off. Nah you're deffo the victim lee.

it was only worth £250 at the start of the thread


you would never have started this thread if you didn't feel you may have done something wrong but then you get upset when people back up your concern

you either sold something that you thought was fucked  to the bloke down the road for double what you thought it was worth or as you now claim you sold it for a fair price in which case I have no idea what the point of the thread is

my last post on this one anyway, I'm not here to take personal abuse but thanks for the lovely comment xx

lol. cos tells me the mods are ok but two are not, i know tikay, red dog, tighty, celtic are respected pillars of the community....although i enjoy gatso's posts i think he is in the kinboshi camp. not 100% certain who cos hates but i will form my own opinion and from now on will be monitoring all moderators who abuse their powers such as deleting posts, stickying the threads they want in public view, reading our pms and the worst thing they do.....making stupid posts and abusive statements. i know you would never rip anyone off :)

Thanks for modding the mods for us smashedagain. Not sure you should snap include celtic in the upstanding pillar bracket thou. In fact don't include any of them from the start because everyone has the potential to be devious. If you don't treat them equally that would be bias and bad modding imo.

Lol. Please read my other post showing love for you. Just to point out I am only monitoring the mods and would never want to moderate them and delete their posts because they were poking fun at me and I spat my dummy out.

Gatso rips into someone freely

Gatso takes exception when compliment is returned

Wp sir

I believe Lee said the scrap value was 250, which like Lee pointed out doesn't mean that there isn't more "value" in the vehicle if you cba to do something with it

Pretty sure the thread was started due to a doubt of whether what he did was wrong. As was very evident in the thread, there were mixed feelingd just like lees at the time.

several points to you sir ....I'm not here to take personal abuse but thanks for the lovely comment xx
thought he was out of order for trying to rip someone offnor am i and i took      this comment very personally you don't even know me and you put this comment what gives you the right

 i never asked anyone whether or not i ripped him off just that did i do wrong in not telling him that it failed the mot ...big difference.

the van to me was worth £250 scrap
however
paying £500 for something that if used brains would get more selling engine ,tyres etc more value than i sold so how the fuck could i rip him off

This is finally great, the mods do need to be moditored for abuse of position on a free forum, in particular Celtic, who seems to be liked by all which mkes me very suspicious - also he called me a brilliant poker player once which proves he'd been reading my PMs where I had been discussing the most optimal way that I'd played some hands with Chompy. Maybe its not proof positive, let the people decide.

Let's be honest with what really happened.

You thought the car had 700 quid worth of problems. You sold it knowing this for 500 pound and decided to keep quiet on the issue, praying that he'll not make an issue over it when he finds out. Somehow he gets it through an MOT with no problems and you decide that actually it means he got a good deal. You are somehow ignoring the fact that at that very moment you sold it, you were thinking to yourself that you've got away with selling a van with a shit load of problems for more money than you've have got up the scrap yard.

You are hiding behind his negligence in not asking because you know you should have said something.

Don't act like a baby when people think you've behaved poorly.

act like a baby .........................lol read all the posts then come back on ....not a flick through and pretend like you know whats going on


ha ha ha ha ha worst post i have ever read

Did you not say, "fuck you you prick" to Gatso for absolutely no reason whatsoever?

Interestingly you chose not to respond to my brief summary of the events. Because the reality is I'm right, isn't it?

Still, unlucky on failing to screw the alcoholic over. Must suck to know an alcoholic got one over you. WP imo.

I don't think that's what really happened. I think what really happened is a guy came on the forum asking for opinions about his morality concerning a marginal situation. The shrewd amongst us with life experience deduced that because a fellow member posted the scenario in the first place and was feeling bad he is obv a good guy. Then we factored in our knowledge of how garages hike up labour costs to inflate repair bills and questioned whether their figure was indeed reflective of the true cost. Then we figured the borderline alcoholic isn't a mug or some little old lady so knows his onions and wasn't suckered into anything. And we concluded the best advice in his tricky economic circumstances was to not beat himself up over it. Leethefish had been approached on his own drive and offered £500 for the van which was sitting there in front of the buyer. He does not deserve any ill will for accepting the offer all things considered. The more impulsive and less sensitive amongst us steamed in without considering the evidence comprehensively enough or op's emotions and called op dishonest and scummy. I don't think that was the best advice people could offer him, do you? Oh and I had a disagreement about who had the best judgement itt which I won. That's what really happened.

GL tomorrow Lee. As a rip off merchant you should get the lot. As we know, there's no karma in poker ;)

thanks i dont know you personally but thanks.

hmmm like i said read all the posts no reason no i don't thinks so there is always a reason READ THE FUCKING POSTS

as for not replying to your brief summary of posts ......they are laughable so why would i....also was busy playing the deepstack

thanks for your worthy input on this thread

no kindly go away.

i do believe in karma but playing well also helps. you seem to have helped out a neighbour who some might just see as the old alcoholic and the guy is more than the van. congratulations on day 2 just keep playing well and hopefully the great start leads to an awesome finish.
talking of karma, maybe i should send fkinboshi some flowers. ;)

plus as soon as you start getting successful haters are gonna hate lee... when you win this please dont go out to celebrate with your mates and end up punching george tho.  rotflmfao

meh sell it make sure he doesnt know where u live give a coffee and a sandwich to a homeless guy

lifes good

lol thanks jason
I LOVE GEORGE....fuck knows why all he ever does is take the piss disagree and wind me up ...tosser

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Let's be honest with what really happened.

You thought the car had 700 quid worth of problems. You sold it knowing this for 500 pound and decided to keep quiet on the issue, praying that he'll not make an issue over it when he finds out. Somehow he gets it through an MOT with no problems and you decide that actually it means he got a good deal. You are somehow ignoring the fact that at that very moment you sold it, you were thinking to yourself that you've got away with selling a van with a shit load of problems for more money than you've have got up the scrap yard.

You are hiding behind his negligence in not asking because you know you should have said something.

Don't act like a baby when people think you've behaved poorly.
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this is obv what happened

+1 to Trigg's post.

guys I can't speak for the rest of the mods but I hadn't checked and seen the way this thread turned

I think I have removed all the flaming.

Apologies for not doing so earlier

Lets keep it cool please

(for the record Lee apologised for some of his comments just prior to deletion)

sigh i sent a pm to gatso and apologised for being out of order ....

don't think these posts needed to be removed though tighty?
nothing in them??

ok, did say I wasn't going to post again on this but just to clarify me and lee had kissed and made up long before anything was deleted, don't really see the need for anything to be deleted. the one real attempt at trolling is still up too

it kicked off again after that

Now play nicely (Solaris, leethefish, others) and lets leave the name calling to off forum please

Don't see what was wrong with the posts. I certainly don't mind a bit of anger directed my way and didn't name call.

I believe you bubbled today lee? I'm sorry to hear that. Disagree with the way you went about things in this thread, but not everyone was going too. I've no problem with you or anything you've said.

GL.

I shall do as the boss wants and leave it at that.

no problem thread over me thinks!

would it be remiss of me to point out that a lot of fallings out and flaming deleting etc is involving mods at the moment :)
 ;whistle; just saying like. see you in 24 hours for speaking your mind lee. Whens the next mod meeting. would like to know how long i've got left.
i would not have to be like this if Cos posted more often ;)

lol funny thread. im sure the same people who have responded so negatively and morraly correct.

so the rich business man comes and sits down, buys in for the maximum and then announces to the table he has only been playing for 3 weeks, do you;

a) tell him the game is too big for him and he is definate target and would be probably better suited lumping on red/black

b) make him feel like the most welcome guy in the cardroom, compliment him on his rolex and pray he doesnt leave

yea thought so

yeah thats the same

Lol, is it bad analogy week? I've heard some real corkers

If he's a rich businessman, just how exactly is the game too big for him and his rolex.

Also, poker would never ever run if the better players were always telling worse players not to sit with them.

+1 to what gatso said. That was a truly terrible analogy on an awful post.

why thank you, good to see your living upto your reputation

My go

This person who mentally resembles a cabbage walks into a poker forum, and announces its comparison time, do you;

a) wonder how he got out
b) lolshmsfo

lol good one. got to love a keyboard warrior

is it any wonder why the forum gets so little posts/initial threads from new members, but thats probs best saved for a new thread

You seem to be taking it as a malicious attack or something?

Pretty sure both myself or Stu would tell you your analogy was rofllolbad in person too.

LOL!