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Port Vale are at home to Torquay and I really fancy the Gulls to win.

Vale have lost 4 of their last 5 (drew the other) and haven't scored in their last 4. Torquay by contrast have come out of a sticky patch and show some real form as of late, winning their last 5, 4-0, 2-0, 0-3, 1-3 (away at league one Chesterfield in the FA cup) and 3-1.

On top of all that, Micky Adams is having a real hard time of it at the moment with the fans on his back and an injury hit squad:


Fancy Torquay to win at 21/10, Torquay - 1 at 11/2 and Torquay -2 at 14s.

If any of you have your own best bets for the weekend post 'em up!

1 time Torquay, only team in my acca not winning, got doubles covered anyway. but would be nice.

Truly epic fail from there. Disappointing to say the least.

Still, always tomorrow/later on today...

yea, was a massive sigh in the end for 600 bananas. 4 teams x2 3-0 and x1 2-1 then 5his scabby 0-0. serves me right for trying to ride on the back of other peoples work. glgl today. having a look for the value as we speak.

QPR @ 11/4
Everton @ 11/8
Inverness @ 3/1
Brentford @ 13/8

£5 doodle dandy!  pays just under £1400. 

I quite like Wigan @ 5.8 on BF which seems generous enough.

Sounds good to me. I've got singles on:

Wigan
Ipswich
Rotherham
Man City

Man Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal
Southampton
Hull
MK Dons

£10 = £190

pls donny and watford to score in the 2nd half

WD boys oioi

good shot...

Always feels better when they leave it that late imo.

Didn't even have time to take insurance :)

WP Karabiner
Tractor boys snatching defeat from the jaws of victory wasn't great

Special One has taken a 6 point lead over Barca. Classico in a couple of weeks is massive.
Think Barca's reign may be over though. Might help them in Europe though.

Teams have realised how to play against them, with 2 very narrow very deep banks of 4 and 5 and just trying to nick a goal on break or from a set piece.

If they defend heroically Barca can't score, its barely possible. Saying that, Iniesta was a huge miss tonight. Getafe deserved to win.

Barcelona have been pretty average. They lack wingers with any pace as an alternative attack, like Ronaldo and Di Maria.

Watched the Madrid derby. This guy is amazing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arda_Turan

Anyone fancy anything for tonight?
I've backed L'pool. Considering Blackburn and Posh too.

Just got a big lump on over 2.5 in the Fleetwood/Kettering @ 4/5, price is way out compared to others who are around 1/2.  Kettering in disarray.

If you fancy Liverpool then skybet are offering some big prices on the score win doubles.
Torres Chelsea 11/8 - Suarez Liverpool 16/1 - This is the general theme, it's not a one off.

I know some people can't get on thought i'd post anyway

Is this still available anywhere?

was with Stan james, not sure if still there

Game has been pulled off their site completely, probs spotted the ricks

4/9 on VC  :( wp whoever got on.

Pompey relegation still 5's at Unibet if anyone can get on.

Thanks, on.

Sorry should have said I have no idea what the price "should" be but this was just out of line with other bookies. Bet365 went 6/4 then suspended, Coral went 7/2 then suspended, skybet went 6/4 and most others just suspended the market.

I'd imagine I might yet get done for palpable error (even though the pricing is nothing of the sort).

Realistically if they go into administration they'll be 2/5-1/2.....if not they will probs be c5s-6s I would think.

Feels like a 'bet to nothing'.

Small treble.

Chelsea -1, man city -1, Southampton to win

Am i going blind or is there no inplay FGS market on Lpool Chelsea and Arsenal City on VC ??

Stan James C'ship relegation market has Pompey at 6/1 again so maybe no deduction although I'm not sure their market looks right. Cov are odds against and they we're odds on with everyone earlier and 7 adrift in the league.

Coventry are a decent side.
Pompey won't get 10 points deducted according to SSN last night too.

The argument is basically a side going into administration twice in 18mths Vs. The FA wrongly passing someone in their 'fit and proper persons' test.

The FA could admit they were wrong....but more likely imo is a points deduction for Pompey as per the Southampton precedent.

I've seen a special tonight somehwere for Spurs, Brum and Celtic to score over 4.5 goals between them.

Please don't look at oddschecker, what price would ppl make this?

Research by all means but don't 'look' for the actual price.

Off the top of my head, 11/8-6/4

Suppose we'd need Spurs to get 2 as a minimum, Celtic 1, maybe 2, and Brum just to nick one.

When I saw 13/8 for all brit teams to score over 4.5 I wrongly immeadiately thought of Shamrock too, that might have swung it even more.

Principal factor for me will be the Spurs team/price. 4/9 and a shade bigger on the exchange at the moment but this could move considerably dependent on team news I would have thought?

Isn't Spurs team going to be very similar to all prev games?

Off the top of my head, 11/8-6/4
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Suppose we'd need Spurs to get 2 as a minimum, Celtic 1, maybe 2, and Brum just to nick one.

When I saw 13/8 for all brit teams to score over 4.5 I wrongly immeadiately thought of Shamrock too, that might have swung it even more.
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PSV to beat Warsaw tonight @ 11-8 is pretty tasty. We should be able to counter attack all night long and we're rather decent at that.

Fielding a strong side with only a couple of first team players out due to injury.

Braga -1 @11/8 v Birmingham looks a decent bet.

Beat the Blues 3-1 at St Andrews. Admittedly lost at home to Bruges, but this is a crucial game with a win guaranteeing qualification. As an Arsenal fan I know how hard it can be to go to Portugal and get a result and I just fancy Braga to turn it on tonight.

Celtic - Atletico - under 2.5 @ 1.96

Double @ 4.6

Huge prices in Leeds game on Sat. Aidan White now playing LM, 40s & 12s w/ Coral 1st/Any & Howson now bhind the striker 16s (5 1/3) Laddies.

Yippee, top result for us.

yeah noticed Pugh playing behind white, nice price for sure.

Cheers. On these.

yep, off with BH to game. On too. Come on Aidy!

Not football but figure I should give something back.

Fancy prices gone but looks like Ralph Beckett has got one ready at Wolves this evening: Hurry Up George in the 6pm. Nice e/w shape too...

Found a bet tonight that looks way out of line on my book

Ive priced up Middlesboro (playing at home ) to beat Forest a minimum 4 -7  shot if not shorter

However they are currently trading at evens which looks massively overpriced to me

My two Forest contacts agree they are " woeful ", and the team news is that Boro are at full strength and  and Forest have 4 regulars out

Guess Im looking for somebody knowledgeable on Boro to give me a reason why this is not a big value bet  (doesnt Keith live up there ?   :) )

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/middlesbrough-v-nottingham-forest/winner

Chris Gunter 50/1 1st goalscorer, missed 3 excellent chances on sat, playing RM as opposed to his usual RB.

nice

I dont have a problem nor need to re think anything else as these prices are my own guidelines and have served me well.

I asked for an opinion on Boro not a lecture on pricing  from the shadows.

I dont like the tone or content of your posts so would ask you to follow somebody else about in future.

Maybe you should channel your energies into something more positive .

meh think thats a bit harsh fraser tbh. Think adnmdv's post is good constructive material, it just so happens that he disagrees with you. It seems like he is a man well worth listening to, and i would hazard a guess at him having years upon years in the industry.

No Quote for Gunter on Skybet  ;grr;

Some fun acca's

Over 2.5    Doncaster v Blackpool
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.80    To Run
2    Over 2.5    Carlisle v Tranmere
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.95    To Run
3    Over 2.5    Bradford v Port Vale
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    2.15    To Run

Under 2.5    Birmingham v Hull
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.61    To Run
2    Under 2.5    Brighton v Millwall
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.57    To Run
3    Under 2.5    Middlesbrough v Nottm Forest
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.65    To Run

Under 2.5    Birmingham v Hull
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.61    To Run
2    Under 2.5    Brighton v Millwall
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.57    To Run
3    Over 2.5    Doncaster v Blackpool
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.80    To Run
4    Under 2.5    Middlesbrough v Nottm Forest
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.65    To Run
5    Over 2.5    Carlisle v Tranmere
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.95    To Run
6    Under 2.5    Oldham v Walsall
(Total Goals)    14/02/2012    None    1.66    To Run

got £8 at 40s

My comments are not based on just that post Rich......he posts /flames  all the time with a nastiness , regardless if he is knowlegeable  just cant be bothered with it...

Prefer Pleasant dialogue

i'll second that he is a bit troll ish. although he does seem to have some knowledge behind him.

Had a small bet on Forest. That should guarantee a Boro win! :)

Peoples Opinions are great and this is one of the best places to dicuss things , however some people have a different agenda which is their perogative...

Been Nice is Generally  Better.

as posted on another thread

buckley & hove albion 11/10 to beat milwall @ home.

adnmdv is a good poster. I also enjoy reading Fraser's ramblings too tho.

It is pretty ridiculous to price something up at 4/7 that is 11/10 tho. What price do you make Boro in this instance? 6/1?

Fwiw I've laid Boro at evens in a lay multiple bet tonight.

Id back the unders in this game.

Guess I won the bragging rights on weekend mate!

You misunderstand.. I simply price up games first before looking at the bookies prices then i compare theirs and mine ...Generally they fall in line but this one stood out .

I agree it would be ridiculous to price  a team up at 4 -7 to lay it  knowing they are evens ....but that is not the case

so easy to get lost in translation on here...actually easier not to bother

This - I don't know adnmdv, however he replied to my RvP thread with some really insightful comments, disagreed with me in a very direct way - however also mailed me a couple of weeks later as the market changed with more useful info.  I like reading his posts and imho I wouldn't take personally - the gusy got great knowledge as do rearmi, dazzler, camel etc.

I think there's a difference when someone does something, in what I'd call an industry / for a living way - versus a recreational expert as you appear to be Fraser, some good posts and I like reading your stuff too.

FWIW - I'm with you tonight and against Brent - I fancy Boro.

PS - thatnks Brent, we still havent met but I've been meaning to say thanks as despite being a toon fan, I am on hcap and w/o Big 6 purely down to your posts at start of season lol - I'll buy to a premature beer at Cheltenham if I make it - Trigg phoned earlier and if I dont take a contract to do some work for a couple of months I'll see you there!

could be good for about 6 of of to each price up a premiership card early in turns, and lay bets on those prices

+1 to adnmdv being a good poster.

FWIW, I have been opposing Boro solidly the last few weeks, but I think 11/10 was an over reaction to their recent poor form.

Evs now I see, that's more like it, still a smidgeon of value if you didn't have to pay commish. I would have them at around 1.95.

ooops with reference to the 6/1 I obviously meant Forest.

Shaun, cheers mate, glad you got on. Although, its not over yet, will be looking over our shoulders at Sunderland and Everton towards the end of the season I reckon.

Unfortunately for the first year in a few I'm not going to Cheltenham now as I'm working.

Thats a shame...mind you I may be working too sigh.  I agree with looking over shoulders, although looking at fixtures etc I am pretty condfident got enough in tank for Big 6 bet.

Probs a good idea.

I had a bit of a mare at the weekend. I did my own prem tissue on the Thursday and the only 3 that stood out were I had Man Utd 1.84 and you could get 20/21, I had Fulham @ 13/10 and they were 2.06 to lay and I thought Wolves and WBA should be the same price in the 2.7 department and Wolves were 11/8 with WBA at 21/10.

I didn't bother with Man Utd, was too quick to let people persuade me that I was wrong about WBA and left them alone, whereas laid Fulham for quite a lot.

Did my own prices in the championship but couldn't find any value.

I ended the weekend frustrated.

Pompey look woefully short at 2.1 tonight, layed them and backed Ipswich.

Where you working now Horner or can't/prefer not to say?

+1 to adnmdv to keep posting. Don't think we should put anybody off and he's clearly knowledgeable.

Good shout mate