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Title: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 23, 2012, 08:12:56 PM
Been rambling a lot, but I'm going to get it all out in this first monster post.  So I feel sorry for you, but thank you if you can wade through it all.....




I'm John Black, a technician who travels worldwide to install and repair electronics for a living.  I'm also a guy who's played a wide array of sports (football, basketball, tennis and plenty more) computer games, board games and a whole host of other things in my so far short lived time.  I live in Milton Keynes and have my own flat, I've run pretty good in life tbh.

I have an impulsive and somewhat addictive personality.. however I'm pretty certain I couldn't ever 'go off the rails'.  Coming close to any edges scares the bajeezas outa me.  I'm supposedly rocking an IQ just north of 130 but that was tested a long time ago and since I landed my job I've not really done a hellova lot with it tbh (uber lazy).  I wanted to do this a while ago, and after spending a long time on it one day I pressed the 'post' button and received a sexy windows 'youve just wasted your time' error message.  I'm now forcing myself into it because I honestly feel its going to be the best overall way to improve, record, account, shame, learn, share and focus my attentions.

I first played poker about 5-6 years ago at a home game of my tennis buddies, we played a little tournament and it ended up with us basically 'flipping' for the first place in the last hand.  I obviously won the £15 for 1st and was hooked immediately.  We played a bit more and I had a little more success than my equal share, more because they were worse instead of me being better.  Then I found my way to a Milton Keynes pub league where I had similar success, easily ending the league in the top % required to qualify for a 'final' in Gala Casino Northampton.




This was my first experience of any proper casino, poker room, event and I came 33/120 or something.. think I lost a race.  But by this time I was watching everything I could get my hands on, had discovered 2+2, and worked out bigger prize pools and tournaments was definitely for me.  This is one of the only times I have 'gambled':-

I stood behind the craps table and observed, I'd only ever heard of it and seen it in movies but they don't explain the game in them so I had to 'learn' to understand where the house edge is..  After a few mins of watching and working it out I'd roughly calculated that if you bet your money on the bet line when the button was off you had around 86% to draw/ win... that sounded good enough for me.  So I took my £100 I still had in chips from earlier and put the max down on the bet line as soon as the button came off (£25).  We draw with a 4, 5 or something then I took back my £25 and changed my bet to £2 - in retrospect I realise I must've had a rookie dealer as changing the bet is where my 'edge' came from.  So I waited and eventually I lost it and then put the £25 in when the button came off.. My first turn to roll and BOOM we smash a 7 first go >> then an 11 for a second win and now we're up £48..  Good game, no?

After an hour or so of continuing this pattern and letting some other people roll, I'm obviously a rookie gambler and not very quiet about it.. We're up about £275 and after watching me for a few mins a pit boss comes over and asks to talk to me.  He very rudely and coldly explains that I cannot change the bet, however being the smart ass I am I have to explain -

 "that I am afraid the rules are very clear sir, you have them written on the side of the table... and no where does it mention the bet being removed or changed is in violation."

He replies with

"I am allowed to refuse service to anyone in the casino sir and if you do not leave the table now I will be closing it, your choice.."

So I give in and the rookie dealer is now hauled off for allowing me to be there for so long.  Other than this I've played Blackjack once a long time ago in Australia, played 5 boxes, obv won $200 then left and I have never gambled with more than £20 since.. and probably not more than 4/5 times ever.  I see no point in it and don't understand it... even with BlackJack being 'playable'.  I have no 'lucky numbers' or supersticious tendancies.. I resent the slots (even with a local 'slotmatch' £30 for £20 tickets).





So this is me, I then became a Gala regular and met the 'local pros' Sunny Mistri, Aaron Fisher, James Tomlin, Daniel Patton, Mark Dodge, The Mad Dog and a whole bunch of other characters.  I started with the £10 rookie tournaments, sit n go's, and baby cash games (25/50p) with mixed successes..  I remember beating Aaron hu in a Wednesday £15 bounty for my first £450 win.  Felt AMAZING! <<< he doesn't even remember it.  I always struggled with cash because the money was 'a lot' but I started getting better, meeting interesting characters on the way and most of the time being an annoying knowitall twat to boot.  More poker tv shows and at some point I discovered Sky Poker and their channel, now I had a more up to date and more relevant source of information - combined with the legend that is TK and his cronies.

This Gala and then Aspers Northampton (when it opened) trend continued, with me winning as well as losing enough to keep the fish I was coming back for more!  I tried to keep a spreadsheet of all poker related monies, and kept it up for a long time.. only stopping when my desktop graphics card broke (still is) and then for over a year recorded them on my phone to input later (likely story).  This showed that over an 8month period I was up about £350-450 in tournaments but I was down that and a little more in cash games.  My job kept taking me away and in plenty of places I found myself finding casinos or home games - Egypt, Brussels, Beijing, Cameroon.. with again more tournament success than cash games.. I even came back from 5:1 down in Cameroon to win a tournament in the American Marines house at the American Embassy (they weren't impressed but we got pizza and so drunk after, then all was forgiven).  My ambitions grew with my buyins and my hunger for knowledge led to me 'buying' my little brother (8yrs younger) Super System 1 + 2 one year for xmas ( [ ] he has ever had them in his posession since that day..)  My mum knew they were for me but said nothing, the angel she is and he said something once but never again.  Then I got hold of Harrington on Holdem for Cash Games 1 and 2.  I then chewed through all of these, twice.  Now I was now really improving.  Regularly making FT's at Aspers (Gala lost the poker room wars in N'hampton) and cashing and winning consistently more than most.  But cash was my deamon.





This continued for a long time, maybe as much as 18 months - 2 years and despite the 'regs' now not being much better than me (imo) I still was quite a bit of a dick and wasn't great friends with many of em, just social like.  Over this time I played in 100 Euro rebuys in Brussels, coming 5th and 6th, bubbling both times (in for 100 both times), a bunch of random games, and a bent £3/6 game in Uganda - lost a bunch 1st day, then went back and in the end I left over $1k up in the sickest way (55 vs K8o AIPF for $2k+).

Then came the first in a few important milestones for me, I bumped into an old footie mate and recent tennis advisary at dtd - Kourosh Radfar.. who played poker apparently... I remember mentioning that I was 'pretty good' and he said nothing at the time but now he tells me he almost pissed himself (as a BRS sponsored playa, I must've seemed a complete joke).

This coupled with a few other 'poker friends' - Tom Kugelstadt, Peter Howard, Dan Patton, and a couple of others.. and I was taking a few more steps along.  Becoming aware of position was a MASSIVE jump for me, and has as it should irreperably altered my game.  Now I wasn't just a little better than the 'locals'.. I was crushing them.  So I stopped playing the <£50's as it was a 'waste of my time' effectively.  Playing all night for a 1st of £250 now tilted me, [X] ego much. But in the last 12 months I've broken my DTD curse - had never even cashed untill I crushed the Super 50 in October, two weeks on the trot (CL both times, 1st and 6th) and chopped the 150 inbetween.  Won 2x £100 fo's in 7 days, had some £100 into £1k nights at The Vic but Cash was still my deamon.

I have in total I think Won easily over £20k in the last few years.. (its a single pot to some of you I know) but I have definitely not been +ve until this year.  Cash is a hard, sexy, and demanding mistress despite being deceptively simple - Wait for BIG CARDS then put LOTS of money into the pot and wait for the FISH to call with WORSE.

It is just that simple.  Apparently.


Well now I'm pushing and pushing further along, further than I probably ever could have and the thanks is probably in no small part to one person - that Kosh introduced me to.


Christopher Poulton - live fish but confirmed online genius and generally good at the game, that is when he doesn't tilt and open shove every hand online for 30 mins
(been there and seen it [X] - apparently Q5s doesn't beat 10's aipf very often)


So CP seemed a little prickly at first but there was a nice guy in there somewhere, definitely.  He gave me a bunch of poker vids - Galfond hu stuff, the thin red line, Samo vs Giggy, Dr Giggy, DogisHead, and a bunch more... I've managed to get through these and keep rewatching.. This coupled with a more realistic and theoretical approach on poker, and Jared Tendler's 'The mental game of poker' have now made me an uncomparably stronger player than ever before.  As some of you may or may not have read my first few posts in PHA if you do, you will see I regularly level myself with overthinking many situations.  But I'm thinking and learning and this is definitely in the right direction.


So now, as reccommended by Chris - I am doing the following to improve and get to where I want to be:


- playing 6max cash on stars at micros: started with 5nl and have moved up to 25nl over the last 6 months.. now back at 10nl and winning at a solid rate over a small sample, but feel this is my 'crushing level' and that I can beat 25nl but I need to reign in my creativity (read spew).

- grinding <£100 comps to build a tournament roll, while satelliting into every big dtd comp I can (played deepstack twice, cashed first when frankie bust my 10's with his 7's - joy, second one when frankie won every pot vs me with less than premium hands AKs vs J2s/ AQ vs A10).

- learning and finding any new information I can that helps me with my strategy, theory and discipline

- signing up to dueces cracked very soon to give me some more modern and recent thinking/ videos

- am going to grind the 6max cash online and experiment with 50hu nl, taking shots at live cash while I build a roll using <£100 tournys.



Aims

[ ] I want to end the year at 50nl 6max minimum, would like to be beating 100nl but that is a big jump and beating 50nl hu 'regs'

[ ] To have been on my first Vegas trip (I have airmiles to spend).

[ ] To be working with my friends in our discussion group to help us all focus on real goals and work togther to get there.

[ ] Have made my first £10k+ score & manditory hendon flag.

[ ] Have submitted and had accepted a 50k+ sample as a result of no1 above and to be negotiating a 'cash sponsorship' deal.




I guess that's it for now.  To anyone that has somehow survived it all, thank you.

Right, out for a drink (just earned it) with some mates.. one just got dumped by his fiance and the other is having a baby with a girl that won't talk to him... bad times.



(haven't spell checked it, a quick proof read - can't be arsed with anything else... havent changed too much yet then)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tikay on January 23, 2012, 08:18:14 PM

Good luck with the Diary John. Don't try & copy the Diary style of Greeky, or Red, they have no idea. Alex keeps a cracking diary, sings Carol songs, & plays croquet & pianoforte. He's your role model.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Eso Kral on January 23, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
GL with this John we have met before at Luton when I donated my stack to you on one of your b2b wins, I love reading your post's so far and look forward to the diary!!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: mulhuzz on January 23, 2012, 09:42:29 PM
great first post. will read with interest...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rfgqqabc on January 23, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
We played very briefly after the 550 and spoke a little at a 1/2 table, Your posts are very eloquent and i definitely would have thought you played higher stakes. I can't see a reason to play micro cash on stars whent he games are renowned for being nitty and a decent sized portion of your winrate at micro stakes is in rakeback, especially as they take so many bb/100. Looking forward to reading this and gl


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 24, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
this should be great!

KEEP

IT

SIMPLE


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 24, 2012, 12:57:07 AM
I feel I'm going to be addicted to the inevitable car crash sort of journey this will be. That's meant in the nicest possible way

Don't really understand how you can be playing in a deep 1/2 game playing 1.3k pots one day, then saying you're grinding 10nl the next?! What's your roll if you don't mind me asking?

2 line response is fine!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 24, 2012, 01:01:03 AM
Ty Ty Ty Ty Ty all!

I'm going to try and keep it 'me'... I'm not sure how interesting that will be, as I've not got a piano in my living room, high stakes balla mates, a croquet gang, the ups and downs of serious MTT life, but I do have a wide variety of people, places and experiences to share... and I'm not really afraid to say whats going through it.



Lil'Dave.. I would like to vote that you list your 'top ten' simple rules of poker!


rfg - Jed right? Yeah I remember.. pretty sure you bluffed me in a med - big pot.. might be a contributor to the reason that I decided to play QTo vs Stato_1.  Remember the hand?

You CR Tc 8c 4s hu then bomb Qs for like 40-45% of your stack.  I was fairly sure  Ac Th was good.. but early on with no dynamic.. figured it wouldn't be a terrible fold..

Eso Kral - who? I now know vinnie is celtic.. but who are youuu?


I've read prose from a poshboy from the start and for me the best part about it is that its a real journey.  You can feel it from the start, the ups and downs, the +120, the -60 and then as he keeps grinding and slowly going for it...  Obv he binks the monte for monster life run good and now they've changed to +3k or -1.4k... :D  The #team eureka journeys and nights out.. loving it.


Also read TBITB and enjoy that too.. and a bit of the other diaries... I guess one of the biggest challenges will actually be the writing.  I'm not a big writer, in fact I've always written how I would speak, which is supposedly incorrect english (baffles me)... or was when I was at school.  The weird thing is that now I'm in the big business of work, I've been on courses that teach me to write how I speak - its more personable... blah blah..



So tonight was a chilled drink with a few mates discussing babies (recently become a Godfather), a mate of a mate has just become a dad on fri.. another will be soon.. this sh*t is getting real! and obviously the standard men at a bar topics of work, girls, stag do's, nights out past and future and other potentially interesting subjects.  Tbh a massive part of tonight was spent discussing the film 'the other guys'



"   Gator's bitches best be wearin' jimmy's! "

The following quote kept us going for about 45mins..
Terry Hoitz       If I were a lion and you were a tuna, I would swim out into the middle of the ocean and freakin' EAT YOU! And then I'd bang your tuna girlfriend.

Allen Gamble       Okay, First off: A lion? Swimming in the ocean? Lions don't like water! If you placed it near a river, or some sort of fresh water source, that'd make sense. But you find yourself in the ocean? 20 foot waves — I'm assuming it's off the coast of South Africa — coming up against a full grown 800-pound tuna with his 20 or 30 friends? You'll lose that battle. You'll lose that battle 9 time out of 10. And guess what? You've wondered into our school of tuna, and we now have a taste for lion. We've talked to ourselves! We've communicated! And I said "You know what? Lion tastes good! Let's go get some more lion!". We've developed a system to establish a beachhead and aggressively hunt you and your family. And we will corner your pride, your children, your offspring...

Terry Hoitz       And how you gonna do that?

Allen Gamble       We will construct a series of breathing apparatus, with kelp. We'll be able to trap certain amounts of oxygen...it's not going to be days at a time. But an hour? Hour forty-five? No problem! That'll give us enough time to figure out where you live, go back to the sea, get more oxygen, and then stalk you. You just lost at your own game. You're out-gunned and out-manned. Did that go the way you thought it was gonna go? Nope.


"I'm a peacock, you've gotta let me FLY!"

A very underestimated film imo




Off to bed now, going to finish watching the highlights show from 'A league of their own' - loving bish and freddie!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 24, 2012, 01:07:05 AM
I feel I'm going to be addicted to the inevitable car crash sort of journey this will be. That's meant in the nicest possible way

Don't really understand how you can be playing in a deep 1/2 game playing 1.3k pots one day, then saying you're grinding 10nl the next?! What's your roll if you don't mind me asking?

2 line response is fine!


TBH my roll is a poorly managed and taken care of thing.. Which is another reason for this diary.

The 1/2 'shot' I took at the weekend is because I'm confident I'm decently +ev in those games and with careful game selection (I.e. hit you up for 200 then leg it while you get out the ipad) I will be able to 'grind' out a roll.  I had played a small cash session at the empire two weeks ago with £200 and 'spun it up' over those two weeks into the 1200 I bought to dtd last wkend. 

But effectively I will be working out what I can start rebuilding it with over the next wk.  Then I will be grinding the <£100 comps for the first few months of 2012 while I build a 50/1 roll.  Then I aim for having a seperate and well managed tourny and cash roll by the end of the year.

I'll get back to you with actual figures this week.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: celtic on January 24, 2012, 07:42:33 AM

Eso Kral - who? I now know vinnie is celtic.. but who are youuu?

This could well be the greatest thing you ever write on blonde. Thank you.

Welcome to blonde by the way. Enjoyed your opening posts.

If I may say, the last couple of times we have shared a table at Luton or DTD, your err, persona? has been good. Previous to that, I would glady have smashed my fist down your throat, and I'm prob not alone in saying that. I think as well, the change has helped you too, you were prone to tilting more when you were quite happily spouting off at people for making bad plays or dubious calls etc. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to the diary.

If you need some tips, then feel free to check out this fine example  http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=51243.0

OK, enough of that, let me ask you a question to get you started.

Ever tried to bluff someone who has Q high in a £500 deepstack at DTD? How did it work out for you? ;)




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: celtic on January 24, 2012, 07:44:05 AM
In before mad quoting skillz.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: nirvana on January 24, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
What does John Black look like ?



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Eso Kral on January 24, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
What does John Black look like ?



http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9105/johnblack.jpg[/img]](http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9105/johnblack.jpg) (http://[IMG)

Meet John Joe Black



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 24, 2012, 01:12:22 PM
Lil'Dave.. I would like to vote that you list your 'top ten' simple rules of poker!

I'll give you 5

5) Don't expect anyone to do anything until you have at least SOME info on them, if you have no info on someone in a live setting just assign them "default" tendencies and try to takie optimal vacuum lines vs them (e.g. if you have a hunch they might be 4betting light, but don't have anyway to know they are capable, assume they are not capable and fold J9o ,don't call to float and rep AK etc!)

4) When you have a good hand vs >semi competant live opponents, just bet for value don't do anything fancy

3) Don't make spazzy moves without EXTREMELY good reason as often the "long term" benefit of the bluff is null and void because the same people aren't there and generic live people won't think "he's has a tendancy to bluff in 3bet pots when he's checked the turn or whatever" they'll think "he's a bluffer" and your small bluffs in different spots will get little to no respect. You can get an "aggro" repuation in live poker just by raising 1 - 2 times an orbit and c-betting a high frequency no need to run a 500bb multi-street bluff hardly ever

2) Always bet big when you can.

1) Look at the guy your playing, and ask yourself these questions, 1) Why Is Here? 2) What does he want from being here? and 3) What kind of personality does he have? This should lead you to much much better vacuum decisions and then you won't be purely guessing at people's behavioral tendencies which no offence seems to be what you're doing in every PHA post so far :D

GL with the diary, I will be railing

Oh one thing you've mentioned about is how you "come across as a bit of a dick" at the table? Did I read that right? Why is it you think that? If that's the case I'd defo look to work on that as good table manner is one of the most important things to successful live play and it's completely free. 


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: RED-DOG on January 24, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
You need to elaborate here Pops.

2) Always bet big when you can.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 24, 2012, 03:15:55 PM
You need to elaborate here Pops.

2) Always bet big when you can.

Sure thing son.

Spose I have  Ad Kh and the board reads

 Kd Jh 7d 4h 2h

You check and there is £350 in the pot. I bet £275-£300 and get called by Ks Tc I make more money than if i bet £200 :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tikay on January 24, 2012, 03:20:03 PM

The boy is good.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: RED-DOG on January 24, 2012, 03:20:25 PM
You need to elaborate here Pops.

2) Always bet big when you can.

Sure thing son.

Spose I have  Ad Kh and the board reads

 Kd Jh 7d 4h 2h

You check and there is £350 in the pot. I bet £275-£300 and get called by Ks Tc I make more money than if i bet £200 :)


Yes yes, but you said "When you can".

I can bet big even if I have the K 10 hand.

I always can. The trick is knowing when I should.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: mulhuzz on January 24, 2012, 03:24:05 PM
You need to elaborate here Pops.

2) Always bet big when you can.

Sure thing son.

Spose I have  Ad Kh and the board reads

 Kd Jh 7d 4h 2h

You check and there is £350 in the pot. I bet £275-£300 and get called by Ks Tc I make more money than if i bet £200 :)


Yes yes, but you said "When you can".

I can bet big even if I have the K 10 hand.

I always can. The trick is knowing when I should.

well, I *think* Dave's theory is that since we're playing a simple game, we're keeping it simple by only betting for value. So when we bet, we should make it big, because we want the max value.

or something like that.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 24, 2012, 03:27:29 PM
Dave's post is excellent. As usual. It's unfortunate that more members of Cody's entourage don't post frequently, but the fact that just one of them does is so great for the forum. How about you encourage more of his team to post Dave?

The thing about live poker is that you can get a mental image from raising lots of pots and cbetting, then they think when you cold 4b and bet bet shove 72243 that their 88 is bound to be good vs this lunatic!

I think I can honestly say I've never made a bluff more than £500 in my life, and I'm not embarrassed to say that. But I've won at least 10 >2k pots where I've been shoving a grand on the turn or river etc. Seems odd that people keep paying me off doesn't it? Because I open 1/4 of the pots and occassionally declare "9 high" in a £50 pot, I must be insane!

Small bluffs, well timed aggression, good, thin value bets, picking off spazzy bluffs and making disciplined folds. You won't go wrong.

And most importantly, don't be a dick at the table. It's horrendous in so many ways.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 24, 2012, 03:29:43 PM
You need to elaborate here Pops.

2) Always bet big when you can.

Sure thing son.

Spose I have  Ad Kh and the board reads

 Kd Jh 7d 4h 2h

You check and there is £350 in the pot. I bet £275-£300 and get called by Ks Tc I make more money than if i bet £200 :)


Yes yes, but you said "When you can".

I can bet big even if I have the K 10 hand.

I always can. The trick is knowing when I should.

Think of a rage of hands you're opponent could have played this way and if most/all of them are worse than yours you can bet big. With KT it's not so easy to value bet so big, since you are beat by KJ and KQ and AK - people like to play those cards. People don't often play hands like K6, K8 which you beat. So I wouldn't be so happy betting huge on the river with KT in that spot. AK trumps all those though so it's easy to make a big bet and be confident you'll get paid by worse frequently.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 24, 2012, 03:39:03 PM
Dave's post is excellent. As usual. It's unfortunate that more members of Cody's entourage don't post frequently, but the fact that just one of them does is so great for the forum. How about you encourage more of his team to post Dave?

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grrrrr


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 24, 2012, 03:41:29 PM
its also worth noting that a big river value bet, needs to be called a lot less frequently to show the same profit as a smaller one. In live poker espcially between reasonable bet sizes people are usually asking themselves the question "is he bluffing or not" more than "what hands would he bet this amoutn with" in such situations where you're bet sizing isn't going to affect there calling frequency too much it's ofc much much better to bet big as when he folds you lose nothing and when he calls you win additional monies.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: RED-DOG on January 24, 2012, 03:48:26 PM


Think of a rage of hands you're opponent could have played this way and if most/all of them are worse than yours you can bet big. With KT it's not so easy to value bet so big, since you are beat by KJ and KQ and AK - people like to play those cards. People don't often play hands like K6, K8 which you beat. So I wouldn't be so happy betting huge on the river with KT in that spot. AK trumps all those though so it's easy to make a big bet and be confident you'll get paid by worse frequently.


its also worth noting that a big river value bet, needs to be called a lot less frequently to show the same profit as a smaller one. In live poker espcially between reasonable bet sizes people are usually asking themselves the question "is he bluffing or not" more than "what hands would he bet this amoutn with" in such situations where you're bet sizing isn't going to affect there calling frequency too much it's ofc much much better to bet big as when he folds you lose nothing and when he calls you win additional monies.


This is what I meant by 'elaborate'.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: PeeJay on January 24, 2012, 03:55:32 PM
I've heard the bloggers run good, like win Monte Carlo's and shit so you're in for a treat


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: RED-DOG on January 24, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
I've heard the bloggers run good, like win Monte Carlo's and shit so you're in for a treat

Not if they blog about skidmarks they don't.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on January 24, 2012, 04:54:09 PM
I played at Aspers and Gala in Northampton a lot last summer and your rollcall of names brought back some memories (some of them good)

Ran well at Gala, not so well at Aspers.

Played a chunk with Mad-Dog - but never really saw anything to suggest how he acquired that name. Can you enlighten us?



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: JGill_DTD on January 24, 2012, 04:57:24 PM
I genuinely look forward to reading your future posts ITT


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 24, 2012, 06:22:55 PM
Thanks again for all the continued support, I'll stop saying this at the start of every post from now :)

Mad Dog got his name I think just because he's a bit of a psycho and was a bit of a 'bad-ass' back in the day.  Apparently he used to play pretty decent stakes and do well in them. [ ] Got Mad Dog poker skillz.

LilD - I appreciate the 5 things.. but I didn't mean ITT for me.. I meant in general for everyone, all I can say is sweet - get me the extra views and comments!  And of course Alex is right, the post is very very solid and sound advice.  I'm toying with recording it on my phone somehow and having it there during my sessions to 'remind' myself of another thing I already know.  ;topman;

I'd happily take down a couple more £100's.. or the new dtd £150 (what a perfect tourny for my level, ability, player pool, vfm!) until I tick the aim for the year with a £10k+ hendon flag. - I'm not sure if I'm supposed to already have one, since I've cashed the dtd 300 last year????

I've heard the bloggers run good, like win Monte Carlo's and shit so you're in for a treat

 ;iagree;  THIS PLEASE!  ;iagree;


tbh I'm more concerned with playing well and making less mistakes.. Just one less/ session and I'll struggle to not make money this year (or smaller mistakes in general).



So, to tonights grind - 6max 10nl on stars, 6tables while notemaking a little and i need the following
[X] Stars up
[X] logged in
[X] HEM up
[X] Auto-import set
[ ] Tables up
[ ] First BB posted..

I'll be grinding for 2 hours then results and break.. might play again later   ;slavedriver;


;starwars;
Skype friends/ railers welcome!
john.g.c.blacklaptop

(tell me who you are if you add me..)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 24, 2012, 06:35:28 PM
This is me recently when I had just had a haircut..

I've also been spotted in poker rooms with a 'Jamaica' baseball hat on. (went to Jamaica with work, got a hat because I liked it - apparently this is weird)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on January 24, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
NSFW please FFS

Oh and glgl


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: h on January 24, 2012, 07:35:28 PM
£10k+ hendon flag. - I'm not sure if I'm supposed to already have one, since I've cashed the dtd 300 last year?


this you ?

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=107714



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rfgqqabc on January 24, 2012, 07:42:57 PM
Ty Ty Ty Ty Ty all!

I'm going to try and keep it 'me'... I'm not sure how interesting that will be, as I've not got a piano in my living room, high stakes balla mates, a croquet gang, the ups and downs of serious MTT life, but I do have a wide variety of people, places and experiences to share... and I'm not really afraid to say whats going through it.



Lil'Dave.. I would like to vote that you list your 'top ten' simple rules of poker!


rfg - Jed right? Yeah I remember.. pretty sure you bluffed me in a med - big pot.. might be a contributor to the reason that I decided to play QTo vs Stato_1.  Remember the hand?

You CR Tc 8c 4s hu then bomb Qs for like 40-45% of your stack.  I was fairly sure  Ac Th was good.. but early on with no dynamic.. figured it wouldn't be a terrible fold..

Eso Kral - who? I now know vinnie is celtic.. but who are youuu?


I've read prose from a poshboy from the start and for me the best part about it is that its a real journey.  You can feel it from the start, the ups and downs, the +120, the -60 and then as he keeps grinding and slowly going for it...  Obv he binks the monte for monster life run good and now they've changed to +3k or -1.4k... :D  The #team eureka journeys and nights out.. loving it.


Also read TBITB and enjoy that too.. and a bit of the other diaries... I guess one of the biggest challenges will actually be the writing.  I'm not a big writer, in fact I've always written how I would speak, which is supposedly incorrect english (baffles me)... or was when I was at school.  The weird thing is that now I'm in the big business of work, I've been on courses that teach me to write how I speak - its more personable... blah blah..



So tonight was a chilled drink with a few mates discussing babies (recently become a Godfather), a mate of a mate has just become a dad on fri.. another will be soon.. this sh*t is getting real! and obviously the standard men at a bar topics of work, girls, stag do's, nights out past and future and other potentially interesting subjects.  Tbh a massive part of tonight was spent discussing the film 'the other guys'



"   Gator's bitches best be wearin' jimmy's! "

The following quote kept us going for about 45mins..
Terry Hoitz       If I were a lion and you were a tuna, I would swim out into the middle of the ocean and freakin' EAT YOU! And then I'd bang your tuna girlfriend.

Allen Gamble       Okay, First off: A lion? Swimming in the ocean? Lions don't like water! If you placed it near a river, or some sort of fresh water source, that'd make sense. But you find yourself in the ocean? 20 foot waves — I'm assuming it's off the coast of South Africa — coming up against a full grown 800-pound tuna with his 20 or 30 friends? You'll lose that battle. You'll lose that battle 9 time out of 10. And guess what? You've wondered into our school of tuna, and we now have a taste for lion. We've talked to ourselves! We've communicated! And I said "You know what? Lion tastes good! Let's go get some more lion!". We've developed a system to establish a beachhead and aggressively hunt you and your family. And we will corner your pride, your children, your offspring...

Terry Hoitz       And how you gonna do that?

Allen Gamble       We will construct a series of breathing apparatus, with kelp. We'll be able to trap certain amounts of oxygen...it's not going to be days at a time. But an hour? Hour forty-five? No problem! That'll give us enough time to figure out where you live, go back to the sea, get more oxygen, and then stalk you. You just lost at your own game. You're out-gunned and out-manned. Did that go the way you thought it was gonna go? Nope.


"I'm a peacock, you've gotta let me FLY!"

A very underestimated film imo




Off to bed now, going to finish watching the highlights show from 'A league of their own' - loving bish and freddie!

No, thats not me. i was just railing the larger 1/2 game, we played a little bit on the table Alex was sat on, as well as Matt, the guy with the rather sick moustache.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 24, 2012, 09:08:14 PM
Currently running like JEEESUZ in the 6max... don't think I've lost more than like 4 showdowns on all 6 tables in the last hour!!!

When we're ahead we're staying ahead.. and behind well we find a way to win:

Behind 1 - Ad Aspades vs  Ks Ts on  Kd  Td  9c..............obv turn  9s
Probably bad.. (read - I know its bad, but I won so makes it ok right?)
I want to fib and make up story that I had a read or something.. or there was dynamic or something... but it would be a lie.
I 3bt pre, I had been pretty active and he snaps.. then I cbet and he quickly shoves for 200bb's.  Apparently I called quickly and then we win...
Not sure I can explain the 'feeling' I had when I saw we were behind and got there.. hated it. HATE getting it in bad when  ;flushy; give you a  ;all-in; moment.


Behind 2 - Kh Ts vs  Jc Qd on a  8s 9c Td Ks ................obv river  Th
I checked oop, he checked back then I donk the turn, expecting to be raised by any K or flopped 2p.  He clicks it, so we re-click to induce... he snap shoves and we call expecting to be ahead A LOT.. not this time >> K or T please >> oh hi dere..   :hello:


Rungood feels so nice!




Although these 'fast' tables on stars are pretty quick.. playing 6 of them gets snappy with decisions, only accidentally folded one real hand though  Kd Ts pre..
Flop was  Th Td 9h.... nvm

Is anyone else playing 6max on stars? what levels?

Writing this was wayyyy too hard when playing so I gave up half way through and now I've finished, our session went pretty sweet.

115.8 mins 1091 hands +$71.01 (7bi's)

But we ran like GOD Ev adjusted $7.52!!! (mainly the two hands above..)

Running the following stats: (any tips/ advice/ comments welcome)
27.2% Vpip - thnk this is fine considering my edge in these games.. I'm looser pre but much better with the fold button post imo.
22.6% PFR - same as above, initiative in the hand often gets me the $$
7.4% 3Bet - mostly for value, some as squeezes as I'm also flatting some big hands pre to either set up a squeeze/ backraise or to trap.
Agg Fac of 1.79 - maybe a little low, but the call-y nature is because I'm trying some of "Samo's" style hand reading/ pot control/ pot stealing when post flop
(I feel there is a LOT of non showdown winnings to gain at this level by exploiting some 'standard' tendancies the players have.)
28.4% WTSD - little high?
42.3 W$SD% - obv low.. but think thats because the big pots I was winning and there were a lot of checked back rivers in small pots with SDV..



Funny thing, I've just checked where we ran good/ bad and we lost every small pot we were a favorite in and won all 3 where we were 'behind'.

Decent session overall, made some disciplined folds.. still not enough..  If anyone knows some good articles or people to talk to about HEM, I think that's going to be a massive learning curve for me (pretty certain I'm not using it well enough to help me get to my potential)




AND ALSO - HELP PLEASE
£10k+ hendon flag. - I'm not sure if I'm supposed to already have one, since I've cashed the dtd 300 last year?
this you ?

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=107714

The £150 is me, but not the other two.. plus I had a few other small results..

What can I do?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2012, 09:09:01 PM
I will PM you the email to get the Hendon Mob details changed


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 24, 2012, 09:16:00 PM
I will PM you the email to get the Hendon Mob details changed

Ty sir.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: ManuelsMum on January 25, 2012, 07:02:07 PM
Lil'Dave.. I would like to vote that you list your 'top ten' simple rules of poker!

I'll give you 5

5) Don't expect anyone to do anything until you have at least SOME info on them, if you have no info on someone in a live setting just assign them "default" tendencies and try to takie optimal vacuum lines vs them (e.g. if you have a hunch they might be 4betting light, but don't have anyway to know they are capable, assume they are not capable and fold J9o ,don't call to float and rep AK etc!)

4) When you have a good hand vs >semi competant live opponents, just bet for value don't do anything fancy

3) Don't make spazzy moves without EXTREMELY good reason as often the "long term" benefit of the bluff is null and void because the same people aren't there and generic live people won't think "he's has a tendancy to bluff in 3bet pots when he's checked the turn or whatever" they'll think "he's a bluffer" and your small bluffs in different spots will get little to no respect. You can get an "aggro" repuation in live poker just by raising 1 - 2 times an orbit and c-betting a high frequency no need to run a 500bb multi-street bluff hardly ever

2) Always bet big when you can.

1) Look at the guy your playing, and ask yourself these questions, 1) Why Is Here? 2) What does he want from being here? and 3) What kind of personality does he have? This should lead you to much much better vacuum decisions and then you won't be purely guessing at people's behavioral tendencies which no offence seems to be what you're doing in every PHA post so far :D

GL with the diary, I will be railing

Oh one thing you've mentioned about is how you "come across as a bit of a dick" at the table? Did I read that right? Why is it you think that? If that's the case I'd defo look to work on that as good table manner is one of the most important things to successful live play and it's completely free. 

This is brill, so much love for this post.
Can you do some more?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 25, 2012, 10:11:18 PM
I could, but don't wanna give all my secrets away :D

Need to keep John cold 4bet/peeling Qc 8c when were 800bigs deep and trying to make me fold KK when an Ace flops :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 25, 2012, 11:54:16 PM
First thing I thought was - hmmm did I do that recently? (not if.. :D)
You wait lil D.. I'll happily mix some pots up with someone of your skill, you'll definitely be good enough to fold a pair!  ;cheerleader;

So.... We've just waved off Pinchop as he came over to get some poker videos and hang out a big while we play some pokers.. ;technophobe;

Been to the gym today and feeling good.  My lil bro decided today was 'upping' day and so upped many of his weights and I upped some.  He's stronger than me now which seems weird but I guess that's what happens when you spend a year training in an MMA (mixed martial arts) gym with some seriously small and flexible sickos - they train so hard they make each other puke... actually puke!

Then off to Morrissons for some chicken and granary bread!  Feeling healthy, happy, fit and ready for the pokerz - lets win some money!

Then Pinchop arrives as I'm clearing up my rubbish, dishes, clothes and other random sitting room crap.  We get chatting and instantly start discussuing Isildur and his PLO swongs!  Then of course conversation turns to another PLO 'sicko' we've both read about and appears in blonde a fair bit... apparently he's Codys friend or something.. guess he must be ok if Cody hangs with him.  ;ifm;



We finally settle on playing some 50nl hu which is a game i've not played much: 3-4k hands or so.. but I've read and watched quite a bit of hu educational stuff and use that to play post flop where I think I will adjust and hand read well enough to win a little money.
However we disagree on hu strategy right from the first hand! :D  I open fold the first button and he freaks out!
John "but they dont spaz so much pre when you give them a few buttons.."
Pinchop "NO, minimum 100% buttons! then they spaz 3bt instead.. and we can win more moneys!"
John "but then we're going to get into mental pre-flop wars when a lot of people are competent pre, but terribad post.. why not work out and exploit them post flop instead?"
Pinchop "BUT THEN WE'RE NOT PLAYING FOR STACKS!!!  ;grr; I'm not going to say anything.. just watch you..  ;frustrated;"  (looks at me like I'm the worst person he's ever met, like I've lied to him about who I am or something)
John "cmon dude, we can own them post.. they're probably bad anyways.. lets fire up PTR n see what's what."


We play two different opponents, around 100 hands vs Villain1 and 140 vs Villain2 (one table at a time).  Playing pretty solid most of the time, some nice semi bluffs and a couple of 'strong lines' repping the top half of our range where our opponent is clearly capped. 

Soon Pinchop see's that they're not playing back at me well, and they're predictable in lots of spots.  We even make some 'plans' for our first 4bt, our first donk.. how we're going to play xx hand or yy hand... etc..
Then he's leaning over the back of the sofa to see clearer and I can see the $$ in his eyes as we're slowly chopping away at our villains.  :respect:
Pinchop "its working.. we're up like $40 or something right? its slow though, let me play with $50 n we'll get more quicker!"
John "no, we're running @ $70/hour... thats good! SLOW and STEADY!"
Pinchop "sigggghhhhhh.... I suppose you're right though."  ;smackedbottom;




So we keep playing and really crush Villain2.. the only pot we lost to him bigger than $10 was then we peel  9c Jc and see this:
 Kh 8c 4c
Villain2 has 3bt 3% over 100 hands so we just flat..
 Ts
Errrr..... BINK! - Villain has $49 and bets $23 of them.
We decide he's never folding and we can hit about 1,200,000 good cards and we're never getting him to fold.. so there is only one option - flat.
 3h


Boooooooooooooooooo........ sigh... he ships the rest and we wait 15 secs n fold. Nvm.  :tikay:


Anyways, we get it back from him a few hands later when we call pre,  Th 3h 4d  >> cc >>  5s >> cr 4x >>  Qs >> bomb 1.25x pot..
Dude tank folds asking us if we had A2 or 67... lolz.. yup [ ] we had one of those hands.
Say "gg thanks" and he says the same.. more pls!


So we finish a tidy $94.65 up after 79.1mins - not bad for a 'loosing' micros  ;flushy;


Now time for a chat with my lady and then bed!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: mondatoo on January 26, 2012, 12:39:17 AM
So CP seemed a little prickly at first but there was a nice guy in there somewhere, definitely.  He gave me a bunch of poker vids - Galfond hu stuff, the thin red line, Samo vs Giggy, Dr Giggy, DogisHead, and a bunch more...

I miss "Giggy on the mic".

GL with the goals.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 26, 2012, 01:07:31 AM
Giggy doesn't make vids any more? shame the guys a genius.. and so com!  I like how the Samo vs Giggy vids show the different styles that can still win.. if applied properly.

Thanks monda..

[X] Hendon flags... :D
[X] Crushed 50nl hu for 250 hands

[  ] Continued


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: mondatoo on January 26, 2012, 01:29:09 AM
Giggy doesn't make vids any more? shame the guys a genius.. and so com!  I like how the Samo vs Giggy vids show the different styles that can still win.. if applied properly.

Thanks monda..

[X] Hendon flags... :D
[X] Crushed 50nl hu for 250 hands

[  ] Continued

He does I believe just I'm not playing cash anymore so not watching any videos, tempting to still watch his as he's so com.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on January 26, 2012, 10:25:18 AM
Then Pinchop arrives

THIN

Tonight, HU4ROLLZ

Be there.

Also...

''lets fire up PTR n see what's what."

50nl Bumhunter ITT


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 26, 2012, 11:36:23 PM
So todays been a really good non playing poker day..

Spent a lot of time today on blonde and some other sites looking up some stuff... some time even on Lil'D's blog.. seems like a serious degen?!

Came home and finished off the cleanin and dishes and house stuff, which actually helps my mental state when everythings all sorted and clean.
(being a guy living on his own, things can sometimes get pretty messy around here)

Then watched a 'poker friend' I know who plays and crushes 400 - 1000nl all day, every day. (nice life huh)  ;tightend;
I've only known him a little while but he said before Xmas that it'd be ok to sweat him sometime and talk about poker in general.  So, he was online and boom - we're only sweating 9 tables of 400 and 600nl due to him currently running -£20k EV this month. ;gobsmacked;
Puts my -$50 in EV seem a little trivial.

Really nice guy, very very good at the game, weird part is it seems like a lot of the things he was doing were 'standard' (even to me) but thats because there's sooo much more going on in his head with the regs and fish he plays with and how he adjusts to their game.  He doesn't bumhunt, like a lot of em.. apparently.


Really nice to watch and talk to him, seems like a proper nice guy in general but we were talking about learning/ coaching/ full time pro and I could hear the pain in this voice from how he's 'given' the last 3 years of his life to the game in order to get where he is. (really earning those £ $ and E)


Then off to tennis for some general club play, I'm a half decent club player and the shame of the last few years is that my friends around my age group have all gotten very good, completely outstripping me! (most of them were already better anyways)  ;marks;
Good part of that is they've won a lot of titles in the last few years!  Just a shame I'm not as big a part of the team as I used to be.. but 10-30weeks away a year makes training and working on fitness and my game very hard.

But played some good tennis tonight, even with it raining and snowing!  :dontask:

Then home to more dishes and washing, and finally updating this so you can all find out how boring my life really is! feeling much better, happier even when I act like a grown up, take my responsibilities seriously and then make time to 'play'!!!!


So now time for some Australian Open Semi Final that I've recorded on my Sky HD (costs the earth, literally! but its sooo pretty!) and then bed.  So I'm rested enough to either put in a monster grind tommorrow night online... Or go to Luton G to try and take me some moneys from the £100 FO.. and maybe cash games..




 hmmm..... ;goodvevil;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 28, 2012, 01:36:59 AM
Half decent first session today..

Stars

10NL
6 'fast' tables
1056 hands > 124 mins > won -$0.99 > $EV -12.21 (which is bullshit as all the aipf -EV hands were me getting it in with AA... lolz - how does that work?)


But effectively I 'bluffed' off about $25 so without those.. (but obv the ones that did work won me some NSD$$)
Think two of them were suicidal in retrospect... however 2/1000 is good imo! :D  I'm not Galfond yet.



Going to start second session 2hr now and then hit DTD tomorrow and WIN the Super50. easy moneyz.  ;angel;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 28, 2012, 04:22:23 AM
some time even on Lil'D's blog.. seems like a serious degen?!

LIES!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 28, 2012, 05:34:49 AM
some time even on Lil'D's blog.. seems like a serious degen?!

LIES!

I remember something about betting on who can throw a coin at a tin can... and you getting 6/5 at one point... being down £400.
Definitely stand up, non gambler! [ ] /  Lil'd won often in his side bets according to his blog [ ]


2nd Session today was better..

Stars

10NL
8 then 6 'fast' tables
1049 hands > 100 mins > won $15.91 > $EV 5.86

Tried to play some more tables since 6 is becoming 'easy' and less effort.  It also allows me to be a little tighter pre - now running  between 27/23 and 21/18 which is going to make it easier to take pots down postflop vs the regs.

I managed to run 8 tables for a while.. but I am using a 10.3 inch netbook to process but viewing on a 19" monitor.  But the 'fast' tables are pretty tough when that quick.. mainly its the game flow and the decisions that allows me to make since I'm think I might make more in NSD pots than most at this level.

Had some run good and bad
The run good

PokerStars Hand #74598253706:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/01/28 1:57:48 WET [2012/01/27 20:57:48 ET]
Table 'Istria IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: MicrolabPro3 ($4 in chips)
Seat 3: koosword ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 4: TheJedi_1988 ($13.33 in chips)
Seat 5: binkmepls ($12.09 in chips)
Seat 6: zlatananana ($10.49 in chips)
binkmepls: posts small blind $0.05
zlatananana: posts big blind $0.10
chacomps: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to binkmepls [3s  Aspades]
MicrolabPro3: folds
koosword: folds
TheJedi_1988: raises $0.10 to $0.20
binkmepls: raises $0.55 to $0.75
zlatananana: calls $0.65
TheJedi_1988: calls $0.55
*** FLOP *** [3c 5s 7h]
binkmepls: bets $1.45
zlatananana: calls $1.45
TheJedi_1988: raises $4.28 to $5.73
binkmepls: raises $5.61 to $11.34 and is all-in
zlatananana: calls $8.29 and is all-in
TheJedi_1988: calls $5.61
*** TURN *** [3c 5s 7h] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [3c 5s 7h 6d] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
binkmepls: shows [3s  Aspades] (three of a kind, Threes)
TheJedi_1988: mucks hand
binkmepls collected $3.04 from side pot
zlatananana: mucks hand
binkmepls collected $29.91 from main pot



Wiiiiiiiiiii - ship it pls! tyty


Then the runbad

Hand 1
PokerStars Hand #74600713775:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/01/28 3:17:50 WET [2012/01/27 22:17:50 ET]
Table 'Tabora II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: binkmepls ($11.41 in chips)
Seat 2: jrkim74 ($8.10 in chips)
Seat 3: sawadabr ($11.32 in chips)
Seat 4: danialcolea ($34.61 in chips)
Seat 5: choccy474 ($13.49 in chips)
Seat 6: murraataajs ($7.78 in chips)
murraataajs: posts small blind $0.05
binkmepls: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to binkmepls [8s  Ahrt]
jrkim74: raises $0.30 to $0.40
sawadabr: folds
danialcolea has timed out
danialcolea: folds
choccy474: folds
murraataajs: calls $0.35
binkmepls: raises $1.50 to $1.90
jrkim74: calls $1.50
murraataajs: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [4d Ad 8d]
murraataajs: checks
binkmepls: bets $2.10
jrkim74: raises $4.10 to $6.20 and is all-in
murraataajs: calls $5.88 and is all-in
binkmepls: calls $4.10
*** TURN *** [4d Ad 8d] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [4d Ad 8d 5s] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
binkmepls: shows [8s  Ahrt] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
jrkim74: shows [ Aspades Tc] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
jrkim74 collected $0.61 from side pot
murraataajs: mucks hand (HE HAD  Ac Qd)
jrkim74 collected $22.19 from main pot


Hand 2
PokerStars Hand #74598814828:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/01/28 2:14:25 WET [2012/01/27 21:14:25 ET]
Table 'Ukko VI' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Teelo Brown ($10 in chips)
Seat 2: kkapokapone ($12.79 in chips)
Seat 4: binkmepls ($11.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Pairani ($11.20 in chips)
Pairani: posts small blind $0.05
Teelo Brown: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to binkmepls [Ks 5s]
kkapokapone: raises $0.20 to $0.30
binkmepls: raises $0.70 to $1
Pairani: folds
Teelo Brown: folds
kkapokapone: calls $0.70
*** FLOP *** [Kh Kc 9d]
kkapokapone: checks
binkmepls: bets $1.50
kkapokapone: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [Kh Kc 9d] [7c]
kkapokapone: checks
binkmepls: bets $2.90
kkapokapone: raises $7.39 to $10.29 and is all-in
binkmepls: calls $5.80 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.59) returned to kkapokapone
*** RIVER *** [Kh Kc 9d 7c] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kkapokapone: shows [Qd Kd] (three of a kind, Kings)
binkmepls: mucks hand
kkapokapone collected $21.55 from pot


Hand 3

I actually SIGHHHHHHHH called here... don't know if that sounds too 'nitty'.  Just shouldn't be a fistpump, imo people dont bluff enough in these spots.
(not because he has a house.. ever [ ] but because I feared EXACTLY  Qc9d/ similar)

PokerStars Hand #74600446354:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/01/28 3:08:31 WET [2012/01/27 22:08:31 ET]
Table 'Sampo III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: binkmepls ($22.09 in chips)
Seat 2: DayWalker969 ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 3: MicrolabPro3 ($19 in chips)
Seat 4: jerry2332 ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Dosnl ($23.65 in chips)
Seat 6: TheJedi_1988 ($6.78 in chips)
TheJedi_1988: posts small blind $0.05
binkmepls: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to binkmepls [Js  Ad]
DayWalker969: folds
MicrolabPro3: folds
jerry2332: folds
Dosnl: raises $0.15 to $0.25
TheJedi_1988: folds
binkmepls: calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [8d Jd Tc]
binkmepls: checks
Dosnl: bets $0.36
binkmepls: calls $0.36
*** TURN *** [8d Jd Tc]
binkmepls: checks
Dosnl: bets $0.82
binkmepls: calls $0.82
*** RIVER *** [8d Jd Tc Td] [Qd]
binkmepls: checks
Dosnl: bets $2
binkmepls: raises $4.30 to $6.30
Dosnl: raises $15.92 to $22.22 and is all-in
binkmepls: calls $14.36 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.56) returned to Dosnl
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dosnl: shows [Qh 9d] (a straight flush, Eight to Queen)
binkmepls: mucks hand
Dosnl collected $42.23 from pot


AND THIS I FLAT OUT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE IS THINKING?????
I think I perfectly rep an overpair with heart... anyone?

PokerStars Hand #74599376800:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/01/28 2:31:27 WET [2012/01/27 21:31:27 ET]
Table 'Tabora II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: binkmepls ($14.60 in chips)
Seat 2: jrkim74 ($9.30 in chips)
Seat 3: chacomps ($23.93 in chips)
Seat 4: lmatsuda ($10.13 in chips)
Seat 5: dyeisonXXX ($10 in chips)
Seat 6: yyychwz ($10.94 in chips)
binkmepls: posts small blind $0.05
jrkim74: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to binkmepls [Kd Td]
chacomps: folds
lmatsuda: folds
dyeisonXXX: folds
yyychwz: folds
binkmepls: raises $0.20 to $0.30
jrkim74: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [5c 5h 8h]
binkmepls: bets $0.40
jrkim74: raises $0.40 to $0.80
binkmepls: raises $1 to $1.80
jrkim74: calls $1
*** TURN *** [5c 5h 8h] [3h]
binkmepls: bets $2.80
jrkim74: calls $2.80
*** RIVER *** [5c 5h 8h 3h] [4h]
binkmepls: bets $9.70 and is all-in
jrkim74: calls $4.40 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($5.30) returned to binkmepls
*** SHOW DOWN ***
binkmepls: shows [Kd Td] (a pair of Fives)
jrkim74: shows [9h 8s] (a flush, Nine high)
jrkim74 collected $17.70 from pot


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 28, 2012, 05:17:58 PM
I remember something about betting on who can throw a coin at a tin can... and you getting 6/5 at one point... being down £400.
Definitely stand up, non gambler! [ ] /  Lil'd won often in his side bets according to his blog [ ]

that was vs Franky, who has successfully ironed me out at everything we've ever player, most tilting was the time I lost $2k to him playing dominoes over skype


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 29, 2012, 05:33:57 AM
I remember something about betting on who can throw a coin at a tin can... and you getting 6/5 at one point... being down £400.
Definitely stand up, non gambler! [ ] /  Lil'd won often in his side bets according to his blog [ ]

that was vs Franky, who has successfully ironed me out at everything we've ever player, most tilting was the time I lost $2k to him playing dominoes over skype

Yer, I read about that too.. how you basically ran uber bad and he had the perfect dominoes or something...


TRIP REPORT
I'll do a more 'interesting details' report tomorrow as I'm pretty tired now.

Main Cliffs:
Super 50
- Played like a genius, owned everyone for a long time!!!
- AQ into KK with 15k of dead money out there to get to 73k @ 300/600 avg - 23k.
- 'Mini blowup' after being bluffed in a ridiculously stupid spot. wp sir.. dont know if 'tilt' is the right word but meh.. watevs
- Then got a little too aggro and ran into top of peoples range for next hour! = down to 25k.
- Checked myself before I recked myself..
- [X] Became a nit

- Table chage @ abso-perfect time.
- [X] New table full of suckas
- Won lots of pots to get me slowly up to like 38-45k
- Find  Ks Kh, 3bt.. then Ts Tc spazz call inbetween us... tyty
- Rebuild and retake over table.. slowly working my 80k up to 130k (avg 60-80 during this time)
- Nice raise then cc, crain on K10x10 vs spazzy villain with AQo... villain has 56fd and folds. +40k
- Really solid, unexploitable poker
- [ ] Made mistakes from last 60 till final

Final table
- Final tabled 3rd in chips, played solid, sneaking a few preflop pots my way.
- Refuse any deal till at least 3 handed... they're bad @ poker and we are 3rd in chips.
- No spew or spazzing, just observant - picking up info and reads for later..
- Lost JJ vs A10 aipf for 1/3 stack. SIGH
- Continued being cautious - 2 on my right were CL's after some insane pots (and BIG fishees)
- With bb being a nit and having 4M I shoved  Qd 8h btn into  Aspades Kd who 'sigh calls', we lose - down to 2M
- rebuild and back up to 4.5M shove next btn Kh 7d into bb Kd Ts.

- 6th £402
- They all insta-chop for £1380 each.. wp sirs. you 'deserve' it.



Played pretty good today, shame about the mini blowup but for the most part didn't make many mistakes.


Night all
x


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 29, 2012, 05:43:45 PM
details of blowup pls


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 29, 2012, 06:32:08 PM
details of blowup pls

Effectively the blowup was after being bluffed by in a three way pot with me and the other decent player at the table, we both had monster stacks and the hand plays out like this.

Chinese guy (seems ok, 120k) opens to 1800 @ 300/600
'Dude' calls from 18.5k
I call with Kd 7d from 76k

flop
Kh 8s 4c (Or similar)

Check from Chinese, bet 1800 from 'dude', I call, Chinese calls.

turn
 Jd
I check, Chinese checks, dude bets 2800..... I call, Chinese folds.

river
 Aspades

I check, villain shoves. I tank and spend a long time looking at him... He looks pretty chilled, no 'obvious' live tells.. I sigh fold.

And he snap shows 45o for a strange but 'well timed' bluff.... ALL my recent bluff catchig attempts in spots like this have been shown KJ or better..


Blowup............
So not really a traditional style 'crazy' blowup, more of a 'lets play 3x as many hands and win anyways because they're bad @poker'.
(I know the reason I've owned them up until this point is they dont fold and that's how I've got a big stack.)

So I play like 60/55 for the next 3orbts and then get into following hand vs same 'dude'.

He limps utg and we open 4.5x with A10o... We've opened bigger because he doesnt have a limp fold range + we want to get plenty of chippies when he check folds flop 90%. Folds round and he calls.

Flop
2c 4h 5s

Check, I check.
He doesn't fold pairs, might even jam random overs n at this point we have like 3:1 stack: pot ratio.

Turn
 Jd he leads smallish.. Definitely 'weak'.. So I take 30seconds and shove....
He sighs and sighs and sighs and says 'well its my own fault' and calls with J10... Fmfl!
He was betting on ANY over except A 100% time imo. So to 3outer the turn after Limp calling utg with J10o just really annoyed me.

[ ] took it with class
[X] apologised after a few mins..
[X] became a nit and schooled it from here until FT


Currently in 'the red lion' pub in Westminster meeting a friend I made at work in Sao Paulo last year.. Then maybe a quick 1/1 or 1/2 with last nights 400 before home for work at 9am.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Ricardov83 on January 30, 2012, 12:01:53 AM
I will almost definitely follow this diary however the use of the word 'uber' must be kept to a minimum in my opinion. 

I am by all accounts a nobody on this forum with a tiny number of posts to my name but I will make a suggestion that you keep the belittling of opponents and all-round negativity towards your enemy to a minimum.  Things will definitely read/flow a whole lot better without you expressing your disgust at every opponents line in hands. 

By all means be evaluative and constructively critical but demeaning, degrading descriptions will get prospective readers backs up and could result in them venturing over to some less negative diaries for their fix of reality-living.

Good luck and I really hope you win the world.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 30, 2012, 12:23:13 AM
Fair point, appreciated.

I'll try to be more objective.. Does anyone have tips on how to explain how I judge a players skill level to be without being insulting??


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 30, 2012, 01:03:23 AM
The game was good.

He was a recreational player.

The field was soft.

I fancied my chances at a deep run.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 30, 2012, 01:04:37 AM
Ricardov is absolutely spot on btw.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 30, 2012, 04:46:11 AM
I will almost definitely follow this diary however the use of the word 'uber' must be kept to a minimum in my opinion. 

I am by all accounts a nobody on this forum with a tiny number of posts to my name but I will make a suggestion that you keep the belittling of opponents and all-round negativity towards your enemy to a minimum.  Things will definitely read/flow a whole lot better without you expressing your disgust at every opponents line in hands. 

By all means be evaluative and constructively critical but demeaning, degrading descriptions will get prospective readers backs up and could result in them venturing over to some less negative diaries for their fix of reality-living.

Good luck and I really hope you win the world.

+1. I think as well tbh it's a leak you're going to realise you have pretty quickly, have a bit more respect for your opposition imo


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 30, 2012, 04:09:42 PM
I am aware of it more nowadays which makes a big difference.

Still learning I am. Nice guy I am becoming. :D

Trip report later - The Victoria, London
Cliffs-
Played really solid, removed my bluffing pants and put on the value town speedos.
Made a set on and A high board and got paid.
Ran pretty good for live... (Had AA, 99 and AK a lot - sometimes got paid)
Kept going from 400 up to 600 then back to 400, then back to 600... Eventually resting around for 800 for 1/2 session
Lost a little at the end vs a guy who he apparently run up 200 into 800 in one hour
After 'guy' left, the table became populated with 1/3 regs and i left.

[X] booked a 485 win
[X] had a 30 min head and shoulder massage, love the Vic
[X] ate salmon and other brain foods while making friends at the table.. Bought new friend a sandwhich and cup of tea. (First time)
[X] ran good, played good, took it all with class and realised that poker is easy when you listen to lil'D

Jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: zerofive on January 30, 2012, 04:31:40 PM
By all means be evaluative and constructively critical but demeaning, degrading descriptions will get prospective readers backs up and could result in them venturing over to some less negative diaries for their fix of reality-living.

100% this. I have a whopping 3 readers because nothing good ever happens to me. Be more like Alex and go skiing out of the blue = 450 pages.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on January 30, 2012, 05:02:58 PM
I am aware of it more nowadays which makes a big difference.

Still learning I am. Nice guy I am becoming. :D

Trip report later - The Victoria, London
Cliffs-
Played really solid, removed my bluffing pants and put on the value town speedos.
Made a set on and A high board and got paid.
Ran pretty good for live... (Had AA, 99 and AK a lot - sometimes got paid)
Kept going from 400 up to 600 then back to 400, then back to 600... Eventually resting around for 800 for 1/2 session
Lost a little at the end vs a guy who he apparently run up 200 into 800 in one hour
After 'guy' left, the table became populated with 1/3 regs and i left.

[X] booked a 485 win
[X] had a 30 min head and shoulder massage, love the Vic
[X] ate salmon and other brain foods while making friends at the table.. Bought new friend a sandwhich and cup of tea. (First time)
[X] ran good, played good, took it all with class and realised that poker is easy when you listen to lil'D

Jb



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on January 31, 2012, 11:26:38 PM
So we played pretty much every dtd sat tonight and pretty much bricked them all.. Couple of 2nds for some euros..

But we lost a LOT of 70/30's or crucial flips late on..
AJ vs A3.. - 329 10 10 (Had a flush redraw)
AQ vs QJ.. - J87 9 10
A2 goes all in for 3bb's, 7bb's reshoves with AKo, we reshove for 25bb's AKs and 88 decides to come along for 10bb's... (Joker!!!)
78 vs 67... xx6 x x.

The list goes on. Obv our shoving and calling ranges were good, just need a little bit of nice variance. Nvm.

Going to keep grinding them this wk to get my seat for Saturday. The dtd deepstacks are a bit part of my live plans for this year, any satellite tips welcome...

Getting an 'early' night tonight with my lady, night grinders.. Get a W. :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: George2Loose on January 31, 2012, 11:50:49 PM
So we played pretty much every dtd sat tonight and pretty much bricked them all.. Couple of 2nds for some euros..

But we lost a LOT of 70/30's or crucial flips late on..
AJ vs A3.. - 329 10 10 (Had a flush redraw)
AQ vs QJ.. - J87 9 10
A2 goes all in for 3bb's, 7bb's reshoves with AKo, we reshove for 25bb's AKs and 88 decides to come along for 10bb's... (Joker!!!)
78 vs 67... xx6 x x.

The list goes on. Obv our shoving and calling ranges were good, just need a little bit of nice variance. Nvm.

Going to keep grinding them this wk to get my seat for Saturday. The dtd deepstacks are a bit part of my live plans for this year, any satellite tips welcome...

Getting an 'early' night tonight with my lady, night grinders.. Get a W. :P

Dont call a 5 bet pre with j3o cos the guy has a sn which suggests he's tight but you know this is a facade and actually realise he's loose so you double float flop and turn oop and then 4 bet jam river after he min raises you with what you can only conclude is air when in fact he has quads


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on February 01, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
i have been reading ur post and found out ur stoties r far to long!!!

BTW r u the guy that snap call alin with A 10 on a 7 8 9 rainbow board for ur tourney life?

if that is u , u r pretty bad.

if not i will carry on reading.

 ;welcome; :goodpost: ( remember if that was u, i wouldnt read this post again )



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 01, 2012, 07:59:51 PM
G2L - love the post.. clearly a fan of my ways! I gota admit i hope i can run like you when i do make such plays..

Brighton UKIPT
G2L has  2d  3h
Super nit has  Ac Qh

Flop
 Aspades Qc 2h

I believe G2L check raised all in.. (but this might be incorrect) Either way all goes in with the Supernit calling it off and seeing he's in great shape to double up to a 60bb+ stack (might be as much as 100bb)

Turn
 8s

River
 2c
Think this counts as a boom.. and boosts his stack to a monster, might have even been top 3 in chips after this.
(Must be nice sir.... I was watching as you GIveryQ.  Hehe...  :D)



And Chippyman... No I wasn't the A10... I would have check raised all in, not bet - called.  :D
I was the one who went out 6th and then they all chopped it for £1380... as i collected my £402.. lol


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 01, 2012, 08:02:56 PM
Still playing EVERY sat on dtd's site and constantly bricking it all... had a few 'standard' spots where we've gotten lucky.. (calling all in with  Ac 9c when we have 3bb's) but keep getting down to the end and getting screwed so close..

Gota get the volume in so these 60-80%'s start to iron out...


breathe...

count to 10... then back...


then sigh @ poker.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: George2Loose on February 01, 2012, 08:22:12 PM
G2L - love the post.. clearly a fan of my ways! I gota admit i hope i can run like you when i do make such plays..

Brighton UKIPT
G2L has  2d  3h
Super nit has  Ac Qh

Flop
 Aspades Qc 2h

I believe G2L check raised all in.. (but this might be incorrect) Either way all goes in with the Supernit calling it off and seeing he's in great shape to double up to a 60bb+ stack (might be as much as 100bb)

Turn
 8s

River
 2c
Think this counts as a boom.. and boosts his stack to a monster, might have even been top 3 in chips after this.
(Must be nice sir.... I was watching as you GIveryQ.  Hehe...  :D)



And Chippyman... No I wasn't the A10... I would have check raised all in, not bet - called.  :D
I was the one who went out 6th and then they all chopped it for £1380... as i collected my £402.. lol

Love this hand. It's in my diary somewhere with some sort of reasoning behind it ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: shipitonetime on February 01, 2012, 09:04:32 PM
Move up to where they respect your raises imo.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 02, 2012, 12:20:29 AM
Move up to where they respect your raises imo.

Lol, or I could just buy in direct to the nightly £100 rebuy satellite for the dtd500 seat and bink 1st.... :D

So we have a seat.. it might have cost us like £350 - shoulda just bought in direct instead of hitting the £4's and £20's...


So once we bink the dtd500 I'll update the bankroll, might talk to zerofive as i want to post graphs like he does, looks cool.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 02, 2012, 03:42:46 AM
as far as im aware optimal satelite strategy is hevily focused on chip preservation and ICM.

basically dont spew ever, anywhere at any point in any satelite, don't float a flop ever, dont bluff even in spots you think it will work a lot and e really +EV, dont put yourself in spots to make thin calls, dont make thin calls when you're there and remember the objective is NOT to win all the chips.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on February 02, 2012, 08:25:58 AM
as far as im aware optimal satelite strategy is hevily focused on chip preservation and ICM.

basically dont spew ever, anywhere at any point in any satelite, don't float a flop ever, dont bluff even in spots you think it will work a lot and e really +EV, dont put yourself in spots to make thin calls, dont make thin calls when you're there and remember the objective is NOT to win all the chips.

Wouldn't presume to disagree, but I find that running really really good in the mid-stages helps. Win flips from whichever side you start. Get lots of pairs, flop sets and quads and flushes.

Then don't spew them off.

I gather from your post elsewhere that you binked a seat last night?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: littlemissC on February 02, 2012, 10:32:25 AM
as far as im aware optimal satelite strategy is hevily focused on chip preservation and ICM.

basically dont spew ever, anywhere at any point in any satelite, don't float a flop ever, dont bluff even in spots you think it will work a lot and e really +EV, dont put yourself in spots to make thin calls, dont make thin calls when you're there and remember the objective is NOT to win all the chips.
love this post so many people play sats like a comp

Just read this diary and enjoyed it

Good luck


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 02, 2012, 07:02:30 PM
Thanks Carla,
I'm sure you're one of the people able to mention whether you think there is a difference in my table presence from when you first met me?? Positives, criticisms and anything else?

I looked up satellites a while ago and found an article on the Poker Farm's website that basically explained you're supposed to never call, just push and rely on fold exquity and poor calling ranges.  Its working for me so far.. although I find I'm able to abuse the bubble period better than most, but I think a lot of this is due to me very rarely having less than 10bb's as I start shoving pretty wide at 7bb's so I'm never there grinding a 2bb stack unless I've just gotten unlucky.


As part of my 2012 development goals..
[X] Joined a tournament specific educational site - tournament poker edge
[ ] Joined a cash game specifc educational site - deuces cracked (doing now)
[X] Playing satellites to get into £300+ events.. inc dtd, ukipt, genting, gukpt, and maybe EPT/ WSOP events.. (ongoing)

We're playing the dtd500 sats tonight again because they're soft and worth E678, definitely worth a punt! :D
currently:
0/3 on £20's - came 3rd to a flip
0/2 on £4's -
still playing my grand prix sat, think im 3/18 or something

gl me.



Quick random life question as my new audience -
(Mainly for those of you in relationships who don't live together)

When you want to talk to your partner in life (gf, bf, other) do you pick specific times to talk?
i.e. I'll speak to you later.... yeah sure, what time?
or I'll call you later.... yeah sure..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 02, 2012, 07:31:29 PM
[X] Got my first Grand Prix seat
[X] Run bad in dtd500 feeder to satellite - friend accidentally called all in to 'protect me' not realising that he covered me and i didnt need the protection.... and won the hand.
[X] Run good in dtd 500 feeder satellite - had  Jc Jh twice aipf both times vs AA and QQ... made at least one  Js both times...
[ ] Actually got my seat into the evenings feeder yet.. - more rungood please!

[ ] Second seat to dtd500 that will be immediately cashed out for 678 Euros
cmon, lets freeroll the week and weekend.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Leatherman on February 02, 2012, 07:31:48 PM
Are you tennisnut on dtd? If so well done on ya GP seat...  :)up


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 02, 2012, 07:54:27 PM
Are you tennisnut on dtd? If so well done on ya GP seat...  :)up

might be.... ;whistle;

The rungoods are with us in a row finally!
dtd500 mega sat (into the actual sat)

we shove utg with  Ad Td      (7/8bb's... bad???)

bb wakes up with  Kh Ks  - errrrrr we've got 30% i think?!  ;topman;                       (where is an interrobang when you need one)

flop
 Ahrt 6h Aspades         :hello: oh hello dere..

turn
 Qh

river
 4s       - aaaahhhhhhh.... thats better!



So we're in tonights 9pm ubersat... and with just a little bit of rungood, we should be able to get another seat. 


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 02, 2012, 10:16:57 PM
So we just bust the dtd500 satellite, made a stupid mistake.... thought this kind of thing was gone from my game. - siggghhhh

DTD500 sat
Stack around 9.5k @ 75/150
utg limps 150, btn calls, sb calls and we are in the bb and check  3c 4c

flop
 2c 8s 6c - obv we're not folding this flop, but i dont want to play this draw aggssively, this time.

sb checks, we check, utg bets 600, btn folds, sb folds, we call.

pot (1800)
turn
 9c

we check, utg checks

pot (1800)
river
 Kh

we check, he bets 800 and we decide to go for a really small raise to 1950, maybe even to induce a bluff shove from  Ac.

I'm like 90% sure we should bet fold this river.. but for some reason when he shoves, we press the call button and get shown  Ac Jc.
I really dont know why I called.. obv we should be behind.. but I called.  Really disappointed in myself.


still in the dtd150 sat with 2 seats up top and £135 for 3rd.. and we just got a double up when we bet/3b shove river with the nuts and get called by tpnk on a  Ks Qs 9h 5d Th board.... WTF! this is what they do, no joke - called by  Kc 4c. (we even raised pre bbvsb)

one more seat tonight please! :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 03, 2012, 12:32:08 AM
ARRRRGGH! ;booboo;

One mistake and one thats I'm not sure about........


First one is a mistake:- (im pretty sure it is)
4 handed on direct bubble in DTD150 sat
I have 90k @ 2000/4000

UTG opens for 15k from 75k, fold, we find  3d 3h in sb and reshove...
This is wrong because:
- we're never getting a fold! which means our equity in the hand is ALWAYS 52-54%
- a BIG part of reshoving/ shoving with low pocket pairs is the fold equity combined with the pair vs overcards equity and the 20% vs overpairs..
- we're risking our stack vs an unknown range with a player behind and poor equity when we don't need to and its the direct bubble..
- we're fairly sure our shoving/ calling ranges will be much closer to GTO than our competitors from their play so far

we get sigh called by  8s  8h and find a

 6h 7h  6d board to practically flop us dead with no 'get theres' except the  3s 3c...

we don't get there and are now left with 6bb's FML!


Then we shove well and get some nice  Qd x and  Kc x hands to get back to 36k and then get  Aspades 6h in vs  Td Tc.
We get there with a flopped  Ad - tyvm.
So, we're back in it and no more mistakes!!!!!!!!


Make some nice raises now its 4000/8000 and we have like 12bb's.

Then the previous villain from the hand above makes a massive mistake by raising 3.5x and calling off vs the first 3bt shove from another player..

Villain 1 Aspades 7d vs Villain 2  Ahrt Js..  - what was he thinking when he calls 4/5 his stack off here!?
Villain 2 holds and we're down to one tiny 3.5bb stack utg.



Mistake???
In the sb we find  Ks 5d and decide that we have to shove for the 14k in the middle and the fact we have a high card and theres a 3.5b stack going into bb next hand. i.e. the bb should NEVER be calling here.. even with the top of his range.. correct?

He snaps off with  Ac Qc and we flop a gutty to go with our live cards....
we brick and gg 4th!

bubble was like £125... and we gave it to Villain 1.
should we just raise/ fold vs bb? (wouldnt think he would 3bt light here ever! - seems better in hind sight but this is like the 5th direct bubble in the last 3 days... think im too aggy....)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 04, 2012, 12:03:59 AM
So.... we got another dtd500 seat tonight. - this means we're freerolling the dtd500 which is always nice. tyty



Properly bossed it from the mid-stages onwards.

Were sitting pretty avg for a long long long long long.... long time.
Raise BTN  1825 @ 400/800 Td 2s (playing 10k ish)
SB call, bb folds

pot (4050 +antes)
flop
8s 3h 8d

he checks, we bet 2200.... he raises to 5200.... we take 5 seconds and shove... its like 3600 more to him, into a 17k pot..... LOL
I'm literally 100% sure this guy is at it.. and that he won't call it off like ever... still a sick shove though, really.


From this point onwards we then play snug and proper and have some really nice BB hands... where people shove A8 and we have AQ or AK... all hold. runnnngooooods!

Then from 20 down we knock out 7/10 to get to the 10 seats... obv accumulating chips and raising like 60% hands and just getting way too many through. :D :D :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Leatherman on February 04, 2012, 11:22:34 AM
well done again.. Was railin you and Eso for a bit, i saw that you was massive chear leader and with 20 odd left basically had a seat locked up providing no spewage.. ;)
 Gl for today at dtd..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 04, 2012, 09:25:26 PM
So..... We just bust the dtd500...

Been really steady and careful all day.  Not done anything too silly, got KK in vs 88 pre for a double up to 27k then an orbit later double up when 2c 3c decides to take off on Q high board, A river. When we had QQ.

Just bust in level 10 with QQ vs 77 on 954...

He check raises all in cos he thinks I have AK.. I snap and he's like 'oh shit'.. So im thinking ... Brick, brick if you please Ben the dealer-man.


Turn 8... Omfg dont u dare....



River 7.

Seeya later 95k.. Gg WP, NH.

Sigggggghhhhhhh.... Better luck next month.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 07, 2012, 03:39:49 PM
Just a quickie..

Firstly I'd like to say thanks to everyone I spoke to @ DTD at the weekend, I think everyone said positive things about this diary.. With more people than I'd realised saying they were enjoying all the posts and that it was 'very me'.  Guess that's the point.  I'm accurately oozing through the keyboard into your screens!

Secondly.. I'd like as many comments, tips, advice, suggestions, likes, dislikes and ideas on the hands I post as this forum is definitely one of my 'key places' I'm using for improvement.. even if much of it is 'shaming me into improving' (whatever works folks!)

Finally - full report to follow tonight from the dtd500 and I'm now going to commit to posting bankrolls and long term plans/ goals and br targets.  (kinda afraid as im then 'measurable' for failure).



Good luck all, well done on the DTD deal to Blonde.

peace

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 07, 2012, 10:15:27 PM
So, this is my full deepstack report, including the satellites before hand.  Just for a change I made it pretty long..........
PART 1/2


We won a satellite to get a seat into the DTD500 on the Wednesday before the tournament.  However we'd spent around £250-350 in order to win it.. and therefore it got to the point where we might as well have been playing cash on stars in order to win the money for a seat.  So we decided to keep playing the £100 freezeouts for another seat in order to 'pay' for the time and make it worth our while.

I then played the Thursday and Friday night sats.. I made a mistake in the Thursday night one.. its a few posts up but basically I played a weak flush really badly and called off my stack when I'd check-raised the river and the dude 'shoved' - the nut flush obv.

On Friday I played pretty solid and managed to get a decent stack and run pretty sweet in some nice spots - we had 3 or 4 BB hands where we had  Ad Ks or  Jc Jh and people shoved rag Aces into us.  Once we got to the last 25 (10 seats) I completely opened up and ran the game from here on.  I even took out 7 of the last 10 players from 20 left - which obviously gave me enough chips to really survive through the tight and arduous bubble stage.  Lucky for me, people value their chips more than I do, which allows me to chip up and I only lose any when I either run into a hand and I have one too.. Or I commit myself to a shortie and have enough equity to make the call.




DTD500 - Saturday 4 Feb 2012, Day 1b
We arrive a little late, having dropped Charlene (gf) off into town so she can keep herself busy while we get settled and ready to make day 2.  Tom Kugelstadt a friend of mine calls to let me know that he is on my table and to ask when we're turning up, this is not the best news as I think Tom is a pretty good NLHE player and having him on our left could cause trouble, and having him on our right is going to be hard to get value.

We get to the table and sigh... We have probably one of the toughest overall first table draws in the entire competition. 

37    1    Dean Morris -
Seen him before, understand he's a solid 'regular' player but might not be playing optimal poker.
37    2    Anonymous -
I know this guy, played with him before... weak passive, solid starting hands, doesn't like the fold button but can be persuaded.
37    3    Tom Kugelstadt -
Solid, good, capable player... can make moves but will likely use the fold btn + combat the weaker players instead of mess with us
37    4    Anonymous -
Never seen this guy before, but within a few hands I can see he's on the weaker side with obvious bet sizing tells, weak/ bad-tight
37    5    John Black -
I'm going to try and exploit seats 2 and 4 the most from this seat, and abuse my button should 6 or 7 try to play more pots with us than they should when we do
37    6    Gavin Kan -
Decent luton regular, will likely be cautious for a while but able to make moves and could be a pain.
37    7    Xenophon Constantiou -
No idea, on first impressions only... He's an over 40 foreign gentleman, seems emotional as he got upset with Lintons opening frequencies in a few orbits.  Probably not playing optimal poker, hoping he likes to defend his BB a lot.
37    8    Peter Linton -
I've never played with PLinton but I know who he is, I know he plays decent stakes and he's considered an aggressive and competent opponent.  I've seen things saying he has a spewy side, so if I see evidence of this I'll try to let him hang himself - glme.

Out of these players, Seats 2, 3 and 6 know who I am.  I'm pretty sure 2 and 6 will know the 'old' me... an egotistically stunted wannabe 'hero' bluffer.  However I know TomK knows I've been working on my game and trying to improve it, only played with him once or twice in the last few months... Unsure how his opinion of me has changed.


We have missed around 30 mins of the first level and understand that PL has been opening a lot of pots, taking most of them down.  Nothing of note has happened and so we settle into play.. our intention is to play really steady, solid and tight poker for the first few levels, my understanding of the DTD table breaking order means we're likely to be together for a large part of the day.  We don't need to be doing anything silly when we have a 40min clock and 30,000 chips.  We don't play a hand for close to 4 orbits and watch PLinton tear it up a little, he gets bluffed by Seat 7 in a silly spot where 7 calls from BB and check calls a Kh Qh 9c then leads a 4h.  He shows PL the  6c 7s and says "you're taking the piss boy...".
Pete is less than impressed and it seems his tilt button has been pressed and he looks like he's slowly rolling downhill.  I give it an hour or two until these two play a big pot...

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Hand 1
Eventually we peel  Tc 7c in Co after Seat 2 has raised and 3 called.  Seat 6 has been very very tight, not playing a hand so we're assuming we'll get the button in this hand.. with the only threat being PL if he decides to try and squeeze out of the blinds.

flop
 7d 5h 4c
Relatively happy with our hand, often having the best hand now but if not its going to be relatively easy to squeeze TomK out if he has marginally better and close to impossible for the OR to continue to the river on this board.

OR bets 1/2 pot, Tom calls and we decide to call - we would be doing this with our entire range A6s - 77/ 86s.

turn
  6c
Not the best turn, but it will almost always make the hand impossible for OR to continue and Tom is hardly going to mess around here when my range contains all the nutty hands, his less likely so.

OR checks, Tom bets 1/3 pot, I call, OR calls (this is really strange! should be easy to fold AA here but I don't think he always would).  When Tom leads this turn I'm now 100% he has a good hand of some sort - 2p minimum, probably a 3 or 8.. he might make it a little bigger with 89 however I don't expect him to be peeling flop with a bare gutshot, so the only straights he should have 48, 58 or 78.  However I dont expect him to be betting his 2p/ set hands all the time so straights are definitely a bigger part of his range.

River
 4s
Pretty interesting river... at this point they both have no clue with my hand and the pot is close to 12k with 20-25k behind each.  My plan is to take the river action and evaluate my options.  If they both check, which I expect them to (as Tom shouldn't have a house very often after betting the turn) then I will consider betting close to pot in order to get any one/ two pair hands to fold from Seat 2 and Tom will fold a straight if I bet here - its just too strong a line to be bluffing in my first pot - esp when my range pre is soo much more likely to be pocket pairs.  The only reason I consider this line is because I know that Tom is a competent hand reader and Seat 2 will be squeezed up against Tom as he lead the turn.  By having a 7 in my hand and the 4 pairing on the river there is only one cominbation of 77's full (excluding 74) and there are three combos of 55.  Either way, Seat 2 will be unable to do anything but fold 99% of his range and Tom isn't willing to take any risks here when my line looks exactly like the nuts.

This is all taken apart however when the OR leads the river for 1/3 pot. WTF!  He should not be bluffing here! unless this is a blocker with AA he should only ever have full houses here and as we've just said, thats really really hard.
Tom calls, so he does have an 8. Hmmm.....

Now we take some time and weigh our situation up, if we shove here.. we would be shoving 25K ish to win around 18/19k and we expect it to work over 90%+ of the time for the reasons above.
However...
There is something wrong about this, the river lead.  We think back to hands played with this villain in the past, and suddenly something clicks and we realise he will be the type to make bad calls but in retro-spect...... in this exact spot...... I'm close to certain he wouldn't lead AA's.  Which means he can only have a house.  People don't like folding houses and so I decide that I'll save my stack, protect my image and get back to playing like a nit.


Seat 2  shows  7h 7s and our instinct was correct, he wasn't folding.  Tom sigh folds his 8 and we save all sorts of image, looking like we folded an 8 too.
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Hand 2
We played pretty snug after hand 1 and eventually find  Kc Tc in the BB after PLinton opened MP1.  We don't see any need to 3bt, and he knows we've been playing tight, folding our SB and BB often so he's clever enough to realise we have a 'good hand' (im aware K10 might be the bottom of this 'range').

Flop
 9c 5h 3c

We check, thinking about check-raising but are unsure how PL will react and expect him to rep the high cards as well as have them so some caution will be best here - obv his EP range should be strong but that's not 100% the case.

He bets 1/2 pot (his std cbet), we call..

Turn
 Qh

Not a bad card, he will often hit this but it does give us a gutshot as well as our fd and over.. we're probably going to check-raise, repping a strong range with a lot of outs and it will likely elicit a fold - all depends on his sizing.

River
 2c

We believe that after his check-back on the turn his hand is A high/ 2nd pair at best, almost certainly not top pair/ better and he is probably going to expect us to lead the river with top pair or better.. unlikely to try to take us off our hand so our only hope for any more chips/ guarantee we get to showdown is to check and give him one more chance at it.  At this point we haven't represented any strength and could easily just have a pocket pair that didnt fold the flop.  I don't think its unreasonable to think he will give this one more punt.

He checks back A high as we win.. getting berrated by the whole table... PLinton even telling us we 'played the hand great...' sigh.
Anyone think I could have done anything different here, except for lead 1/2 pot I guess....?

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Our next hand is losing one to PL when we cc flop and turn the nut straight and he rivers a house... we lead the river and sigh call his small raise - this might be a mistake..

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Hand 3
We open Th 8h in CO and Gavin Kan has woken up a little, this is the 2nd time he's flatted our open from btn... I don't think its optimistic to think he's decided to use his 'nitty' image from today to try and take more than his fair share of pots away from us.  This will be harder than he imagines.

Flop
 8s 6h 4c
We cbet 1/2 pot, he hasn't seen our cbet size and so isn't going to be getting anything from this.  We've recently made our bets smaller in general as the stack:pot ratio needs to be as high as possible for us to have manouverability in a hand.  Gavin calls, this doesn't mean anything really, he would be 3bt-ing us for sure with his big value hands pre so we will re-evaluate on the turn action.

Turn
 7h
Probably the nut card imo..  It gives us lots of equity in the hand vs any range! It makes it hard for him to go crazy with most of his hands but definitely adds to his likely-hood of now having a pair + draw kind of hand.  He will often continue to call with any pair, he may give us credit for betting  Ahrt Kh and such like hands.. but I also suspect he thinks we might just barrell overs anyway.

We decide to make this larger, confirming his opinion its less likely to be for value.. and with the idea of setting up a small river 'bluff' that will be getting called close to 100% by all his 1pair hands - we will be betting pretty much any river, the worst being 7's, 6's and 4's.

We bet 3/4 pot and he takes some time, looks to be considering raising but now realising that raising will now be hard because my sizing is too large (thought of) and he calls.

River
 2c
One of the best rivers.... nothing has improved and if he raises here we will have a decision but effectively he's good enough to know that he just needs to call here with ALL his hands as I don't think he's bad enough to float both flop and turn.

We take our time and finally (after acting it up a bit) bet 1/3 pot and stare at the flop like we try to do in all pots with both value and bluffs.
He takes quite a while, I think a little shocked at how small the bet is.. and is now worried its for value, this is PERFECT! as he would've snapped with and 8 or better, so we were right and he has a weak one pair hand.......  He takes around 30 seconds and realises it won't hurt his stack too much, and calls.

We say "I do have an 8 Gav" and he disgustedly throws his hand in the muck.  BOOM! wp john.  I know many will think the river is a little thin... but I can't see many hands better than ours he doesn't raise the turn with except a better 8... and that will suck.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on February 07, 2012, 10:45:02 PM
The phrase tl;dr was invented for that post.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 07, 2012, 11:59:51 PM
Part 2/2 - sigh @ writing so long.... not even done my grind for today.. thats off now, im knackered!
(I've just seen Cambridgealex's response and I appreciate your pains... I had to write it and check it godknows how many times.)



Hand 4
Again this is a spot vs Gavin, again we're in late position.

Seat 1 limps.... (hmmm) and we open Td Th and get Gavin flatting us behing on btn, with SB coming along.


Flop
 Ks 9d 4c    (or similar Kxxr)

SB checks, Seat 1 checks, We check, Gavin Checks...  We will now expect both SB and Seat 1 to lead a K on the turn, and Gav is probably betting a K when behind me (this is significant later).


Turn
 Ad

SB checks, Seat 1 checks, I decide to turn my hand into a bluff here as I will often be behind to a K but Gav shouldn't have one and both SB and Seat 1 will call turn but fold river imo close to 100% vs me here (remember I haven't been caught out in any spots and always had a premium at showdown.. so they should see me as a nit).

I bet just over 1/2 pot and Gavin calls but the other two fold.  I should have thought about his range here more..  but I guess I assumed it would Ahrt heavy and should have realised it would include flush draws sometimes.


River 
 Kc

I decide to give up here, figuring that after the  Th 8h hand Gavin will call more often than he should and check back his  Ahrt hands or other one pair hands often.  Then he bets 1/3 to 1/2 pot... by this point this is around 40% of my remaining stack.

I try to work this out here... to see if I can ever try to rep a monster and check shove.. obv I would be repping AK only.. but also doing so pretty solidly imo.  I don't think he will ever call with a bare A and would be folding Kx a decent chunk of the time.

What flits through my mind, but not really for long is that it seems strange for him to bet here....  I might be being results orientated here but I should really have reminded myself that he would probably have bet the flop with a K.

I sigh fold and wisper to him, it'd be a nice bluff spot.  He oblidges and shows me the  8d 6d for a turned FD.


ARGHHHHHH!!!! he was still pissed about being owned before and couldnt resist, but after the hand I thought about it and realised its a ridiculous bet from him and that I should've fistpump snap called as he isn't betting worse pairs than an A and the he should never have a K.  This pot would have been great for me and given me a nice 34k stack just over average.  Instead I was down to 14k and now going to be on 'life support' -ish with 35bb's.



This is where the most important part of my last years work on my game came into play.  This is where I would have made one of the biggest mistakes I see players make and would have certainly wasted both my time and the money involved.
I would have 'blown up' trying to get a stack... even though I had 35bb's!
Instead, I used my more sensible, calm self to re-set and remind myself that I have 35bb's and that basically it removes all plays/ moves from my arsenal and that we will just be playing for value from now on.

We re-nit it up and avoid a few trouble spots where we wanted to open  Ac Td or  Kh Jh utg vs a competent table.
We carry on with watching, learning, paying attention and picking up some very reliable bet sizing tells on a couple of the players - once I see something confirmed 3 times I take it as 'fact' until I see otherwise.  Then we end up going to the break with about 12k and 20bb's.


Come back from the break a minute or so early.. to actually get our mind right and chillout. NO SPEW NO SPEW NO SPEW!  We did go out of the last DTD500 with a TPTK + NFD combo but it was in a spot where we shouldn't have got our stack in, we should have called the turn and shoved if we hit.. turns out we ran into a gutshotted bottom straight who snapped, saying "you've got a bigger straight right?" OMG wp kid.... and we didnt hit.

By now the table has changed, Seat 2 has been moved, Seat 3 has gone bust - replaced by a big stacked Adam McGuiness (know him well), Seat 4 has his starting stack, Seat 6 has our 35k! :D, Seat 7 has bust into PLinton - replaced by an aggressive older gent who PL seems to know.. and Seat 8 has left our table.  So the table is much better for us imo and with Adam having a lot of chips and we have a history where he will call me down lighter than I think he should I look forward to finding a hand.  Deekon is now dealing and we have chatted to him a lot in the past, really nice guy... ask him for a few hands please, it would really help. :D


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First hand back from break - 
Ahrt Ks
Both SB and BB aren't there and we open UTG+1 ...            (hoping to get action here because of absence of blinds)
We min +25 to 1625 and the table folds right around - ok so not that unusual, we're opening a 15bb stack utg.. we should be strong.

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Second hand back from break
Now the BTN is back but the SB (Adam) isn't and we find  Ks Kh... hmm this couldn't be better timing.. looks like we're stealing again and praying someone wakes up here... shame Adam isn't here as he won't be folding to me too much pre-flop.
Everyone folds again and we sigh as we look at Deekon and he realises we had it both times.. his face saying 'sorry dude I gave you something obviously...'

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Adam comes back and makes a chatty "hey, how are you" kinda comment, its nice to see him but there is certainly a look of 'dont even think about it John' in his eyes.


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An orbit or so later
There is an EP raise and Adam makes a small 3bt, we're back to our 16-20bb stack and find  Kc Kh..... ****!!!!
How the hell can we get a call here from him when we cold 4bt shove over his 3bt when we're still 2 off the BTN?!?
ITS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WE HAVE  Ahrt Ac OR  Kh Kc..... (no John.. that's what 'we' might think.. they dont!)

- Then we think about our history, can we afford to flat here? Maybe, but with his stack he is more likely to call it off pre
- Will he stack off post flop as easy or easier than pre? No
- Does he 3bt light often enough for this to be a 'move' in MP? NO!
- How big is his stack really... Will the 16k dent his table CL significantly? No, he has around 70k

So we reason the only play, despite the fact it should scream 'MONSTER' is that we have to shove.  I think he will put us on AK/ AQ too much and snap with any pair.. but almost certainly call with those hands himself.. = we should be getting called.

We shove, and he takes a minute or two.... then realises there's no way he's passing 'this hand' to John Black when it won't hurt his stack and its probably the best hand right now.  He calls with  8s 8d and we hold!

BOOM! back to a playable stack and we're off to the races ladies and gentlemen!

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So........ Like a nit... we nit it up and decide our stack and table is now perfect for extracting value and dodging any kind of tough spots.. then this hand happens.

We find  Qd Qs and open min+25 UTG playing 30k-ish and then get really small 3bt from the 'older aggy gentleman' that PL knew, he's seemed a little too lose pre but has certainly not done anything aggressively out of line preflop.  He has shown he will call too much pre, but it was always in position (peeled  8c 4c to my HJ open and bet flop n turn when checked to on  8s 6d 2c).

I really really really hate this min3bt here.... its just so evident of hands I've played in the last 12 months when people have 'telegraphed' their hand strength to me and I've not listened.  Online, small 3bts have always been AA's...
So I decide to play this rather carefully as he covered me I thought.

I call his 3bt and we see
Flop
 Qh Th 6d

I check, and he puts out a healthy bet... I wanted to raise/ get it in here to make sure he believes I have a FD but my instinct told me that he would be barrelling the turn 100% of the time so wait till then (he will be commited with any one pair hand).

Turn
 8c  (or other similar brick)

We check and he snap checks behind.... Hmmmm, not sure what to do on a river.. its a big'ish pot and we should always have the best hand.. but maybe he's cautious too.  If he has the dreaded AA, KK he will always vbet the river!

River
 Ahrt
I check and he looks genuinely happy to see the A... My stomach lurches.. literally climbing up to strangle my Oesophagus and make sure my tongue doesn't say anything my cards can't match!
And I sigh.... then take 30 seconds... put the 'call' (turns out I have him covered but it is 80% my stack) to one side and think about this.
I announce to the table "sorry if this seems like a slow-roll, I can't see myself folding but I need to think.."
He doesn't look worried, no problem at all... I'm still sat there trying to convince myself he doesn't have AA:-


When something doesn't sit right >>> Why would he shove when it completes a flush and it probably looks like I'm drawing.. >>> It looks like I have a flush, he wouldnt try to get me off this...  >>> Then I feel like durrrrrr and realise there is no spoon >>> and despite realising that I should always be ahead... I call saying 'please show me the  Aspades Ac sir.....'.

He stands up, laughs and shows me the  2c 3c.... and I now have a massive stack... 58k and its definitely time to ROLLLLLLLL!

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From here the story is relatively short we play pretty snug on the table from there on in.. using our stack quite well and staying away from danger..Then we move tables and we're now going to have to start all over again.  We now have 50kish..

An orbit or so in and we find  Qh Jd and open our HJ, Finalist Paul Romain peels his BTN and one of the blinds comes along.

Flop
 Ks Tc 3h

Pretty good flop considering our hand/ image (new to table) and we decide a cbet is manditory.. We stick to our 1/2 pot sizing and Paul takes some time then calls (he's playing 80k or so, has us covered).  We don't think he will have a monster here very often, my 'stereo-typing' of him (which is rarely wrong in a big way) is that he seems like an experienced player (- he seems very comfortable at the table), who probably doesn't play GTO poker, and may have a tighter range pre/ as a result may not find the fold button often.

I don't think he will hero me with a K through 3 streets, but will likely fold to a 2nd barell with worse than tp and obv we have lots of outsies!

Turn
 9c   Oh hello dere!!! :hello:

Pretty good to make the nuts first hand vs a guy we "now hope" doesn't fold too often....
We take some time and work out stack sizes, raise sizes.. and stack:pot ratios if we do X, Y or Z... We remind ourself that players of this 'stero-type' will rarely do the betting for us, so we have to bet!
We decide a larger size is definitely the way, maybe even overbetting the pot.. but resign to a 4/5 pot bet.. making a river shove a perfect just over pot size. (lovely for bluffs and value imo).

We bet 4/5 pot and he takes very little time in 3.5x-ing our raise... OMFG! he has  Kh Kd and he slowplayed the flop... - boomtown!
We're always shoving now, with it being just over a min-raise back to him... but we decide that its possible he might only have one pair here... and if he does we need to make sure we get called.  So we take the longest we've ever taken to shove the nuts in any hand of poker we've played ever.... close to 3 minutes.. with mumbling and talking to ourselves.. Imagining what it's going to be like to have 110K when the average is 37K and then wait some more..... finally we say "I'm all in"

Paul checks - "did he say all in??? I call."

F***MyFMFMFLFDJDOFJDSOFM life... he only snaps with QJ... and he rolls over  Qc Jc for a chop pot.... SIGGGH!

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Nothing much else happens and we only seen one more pot of significance involving Paul (who at this point has about 120k)

Where he raises CO and BB flats...

Flop
 9s  7c 7s

BB checks, Paul bets 1/2 pot, BB Craises to 3.5x and Paul takes a few seconds then declares All in, BB sighs and calls...

Paul -  9h Th
BB -  Ks 2s
And we're off to the races in a ridiculous spot worth about 140k when the average is only 38/40k.

Turn
 Qs - BB takes the lead

River
 7d - Pauls retakes the pot with a full house! mbn sir..


The BB storms off in disgust but there is a lot of commotion as the dealer realises that the BB has Paul covered and that he has around 14k left..

Next hand he shoves his SB over Pauls raise and I cold call  Kh Th knowing that Paul is never going to get out of line here..
He calls and we see

Flop
Ks 8s Qc
I check, he checks..

Turn
 Qd
I check, he checks.. going to value bet any river now..

River
 Qh
I bet 11k, and he folds... the BB shows down  Kd 3d for a now chopped pot.. FFS! That was 27K that would've boosted my stack by like 40%.

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We don't do much else for quite a while, some small pots here and there... we realise that the table is actually quite good and that there quite a few chips up for grabs if we can make a hand! (I'm starting to realise deep down that live poker shouldn't involve a lot of bluffing - yay = learning!)

We find  Qd Qh again and open (some nice starting hands yes, but we've been very patient tbh!)
We get 3 callers, Paul in CO and the two blinds..

Flop
 9s 5h 4s

SB Checks, BB Checks and we bet around 4/5 pot with the intention of setting up a turn pot sized shove even if we only get one caller, Paul folds, SB folds and BB hesitantly shoves - covering us.

We snap his hesitant shove, knowing he hasn't got a set 'this time'... and he turns over  7c 7s! He exclaims "****!" and I'm loving life! we're about to get back into a good stack again with 2.5x avg and a great table... CMON SON! 91% here we are!

Turn
 8h - In my head I'm like "Don't you ****ing dare mate..... don't even think about it...."

River
 7h - GG, WP, NH, mbsf-jkldjflkdfkjdsgfhdskjghdsfldsjhf-nice

He explains his shove by saying "I thought you had  Aspades Kh so I shoved..." - ty ty ty sir.

And this gentlemen then goes on to finish the day in the top 5 chipstacks and not even cash I believe... This is the bit that makes me most upset... I'm completely happy with the way I played, but I know.. for certain that winning that pot on that table would really set me up well for a solid run.  Nevermind, next time then please.



Well that was my DTD500 report...
I hope you survived it, that you enjoyed it, and would appreciate all comments......... Next month if I'm around I'll be there! £70K 1st please!!!!

I finished the day playing a little bit of 50/1 cash and lost a bowl (of rice = not a lot).. but played well and only missed one spot where I folded  7c 6h pre and it came  7d 6c 6d and a deepstacked player who has massive tells and can't release a pair, had the  Aspades Ac and I would have received a full £300 double up.. sigh @ £5 disciplined SB folds...........


Now onto BRoll commitments...




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 08, 2012, 12:48:26 AM
The phrase tl;dr was invented for that post.

I appreciate that mate... sorry but this is me.

Soooo Bankrolls.


Live - I have £585 in cash as a small tourny roll/ small punts in 50/1 or 1/1 games. 
- Insanely small I understand, however the tournys will likely be £50 fo's..
- Might speculate in the Luton friday £100... I have a sick record in that comp.. played 6/7 won 2 (£1800/£2200), 6th in another (hero calling 1/2 CL stack with 5s 6s on  Js 8h 6h 2s when nit shoved for 1.5x pot - AA obv)
- I will also be putting £1k of my recent overtime into this 'pool'... It's definitely a 'short' roll by most live MTT standards.. but tbh in the super 50's/ sub £100 comps.. my edge is significant. 
- The super 50 is a big target of mine, having finaled it 3 times in the last 3 months.. 2x with CL, winning one and 6th the other two times. (one was an aggy blowup/ other JJ vs A10 + Btn into BB 2orbits in a row). I find if i run 0ev then its just flexible enough for me to crush though... and when in last 60 I absolutely destroy that tournament.

Online - I play sats on DTD and 10NL on Stars
DTD - £483.27
- This is for satellites into the GP, 6max, DTD150 and DTD500...
- This will involved 1 or 2 £100 re-entry 10 seat shots.. so far 2/3 then hitting the £4's and £20's to get into it.
- I have played some 25 + 50 NL on DTD and crushed it so I may even look at some 25NL to build up for the end of month 'sats'

Stars - $395.13 for 10NL
- Have a couple of $10 rewards to claim
- I realise this is kinda the bottom of a sensible bankroll my plan is 40bi's at each level... by the time I get to $1000 for 25NL I am sure I will be able to move up very quickly... the big jumps will be 50NL/ 50NL HU and 100NL.
- Had a bit of spew when I started (played at a mates house and exploded $300) but now steadily winning over last 8 sessions, up $285 over 6150 hands.. with about -$45EV.  Works out at a good rate if i can keep it up.
- I'm playing 6-8 'fast' tables at a time, and find I only ever seem to 'lose' a stack when I'm either super cold decked, getting 10-20%'d or running into the abso-top of peoples ranges... I'm winning so much at NSD, taking pots of regs and fish alike.
- I make a lot of notes and try to use that to experiment pre and post flop..
- I'm much better with the ol 'fold' button now, which is massive for a 'live' player! You have to realise how many river calls I can make live that just are never ever calls online.
- I don't want to go to more than 10 tables at the moment... I want to still be making notes and adjusting to the reg's... my understanding of winning at cash poker is that you use 'standard' lines/ hand combos to play the fish or softer players and you need to be 'thinking' when approaching the regs - I have a few things already that I do which they despise and have no defense to = FUN!!!



Should there be any BRoll problems I have a spare bedroom in my house, and I will rent it out Mon-Fri to a local professional, in Milton Keynes this isn't too hard.. for approx £400/450 per month bankroll only money.

Also, we have a Super 50 seat for free from the DTD cash promotions... (so sick if I can bink another for £3k to give me a 'proper' start!)


And failing all of the above I will discuss any live/ online staking deals that I am offerred (if) and go from there.

I am now a member of TPE (tournament poker edge) and am loving all their vids.. and with my job taking me abroad often, I will be spending a regular 5-10 hours/ week studying and working on my MTT and Cash games maybe more as I need to watch a series a couple of times to really absorb the info/ ideas.  DC member ship yet to be sorted.... on the way - honest.


And then I guess its just to the 2012 winning. yes please.




Right, I've done it... time for sleep.  Been here since 7pm when I got home - 6 hours of typing. FML!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 09, 2012, 12:37:43 AM
Tonight grind..

Went to the gym first, so was feeling a little pumped and healthy but I think the pumped meant a few random spazzy bluffs, nothing major.. I gave up on 3 pots I remember that I was right to... which in the past I might not have and would've lost a lot on the last bullet.

101.3 minutes
870 hands
Results               -$26.70
Ev adjusted         -$20.61
VPIP                   27.7
PFR                    21.3
3bt%                    9.0
Agg Fact            1.74
WTSD%             31.8
W$SD%             48.2


Nothing special really... didnt play my best.. maybe 7.5/10.  Need to properly focus, I had the tv on a programe rather than the music channels.  I had to stop early as a mate came over who's having trouble with his ex and the soon to be mother of his child, so we sat and had a grown up discussion about what we know about women - hmmmmm....

Think I officially made friends with Pleno today, I'm looking forward to picking his brains about some HU stuff.. but mainly making friends with people that are good and active in poker is good networking and as he is into discussion and study groups I hope I can help him too.

night all.

x



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on February 09, 2012, 01:07:52 AM
Got half-way through and felt I had to continue as i'd already read a small book.

Certainly seems like you are making some improvements on your game from some of the early PHA posts. Although still notice quite a few thoughts being aired about spots you want to turn hands into bluffs etc, which are just so rarely required live I would probably look to cut this out of your game almost completely. I would challenge you to find me more than 1 live player at Dusk who thinks they have made profit lifetime from bluffing live players.

In particular the thoughts of bluffing on that 76554 board vs TomK and the other guy are nasty... i know you didnt, but dont even think about it in that spot.

Very much dislike leading the turn with your TT in a 4-way pot on an AK high board.

From what I can remember the rest was all standard/fine/good so good job.

p.s. having read the bankroll breakdown, I hope I don't see any more 1/2 PHA posts... seems kinda suicidal to be playing in those games, which player more like 2/5.... with the roll you have. I would advise to collate your BR and play 50/1 more live or remove most/all of this 'live roll' and move up to 25NL minimum... really want to be playing 100NL for something like meaningful money (and to test your game out a bit against some semi-competant regs).... i would do that and maybe keep some on the DTD site for satellites to live events etc.

GL

p.p.s please don't write 5000 words next time, compact HHs with concise thought-process breakdowns are fine for these kinds of spots/posts. By all means be yourself and word it how you want, but no-one (few) will read these kind of posts if they become regular



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on February 09, 2012, 02:01:48 AM
Lol tom high. Played any 5knl recently?!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on February 09, 2012, 09:29:54 AM
The problem is, you are obviously a good player, but if you're playing NL10 there must be something wrong with your game that you haven't found out yet. If you can't currently beat NL10 or you can't afford a bigger bankroll then you should not be even thinking about playing NL100+ or Tournaments live at all. Pool all the money into one bankroll and use it for online. Study,play,play, study, post pha, study, play,move up, study, post on pha, play, play, study.

Aim to play 40k hands per month and spend 1 hour a day learning, yes you have a job and its hard but if you really want to do well in poker then that's what you have to do. If you don't want to sacrifice alot of time and effort and just want to play the odd tournament here and there and play a few side cash games in the tournament then do that and don't waste your time on NL10. You're definitely +ev in live games and you most likely will be for a long time, so if you just want to have fun and splash about then that's cool.





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tikay on February 09, 2012, 10:08:33 AM

Good morning.

We get to the table and sigh... We have probably one of the toughest overall first table draws in the entire competition. 

37    1    Dean Morris -
Seen him before, understand he's a solid 'regular' player but might not be playing optimal poker.


Mixed read, that. He's not "solid", so you got that wrong, but you were right about him "not playing optimal poker".

1-1.

Fine Diary, keep it up.   


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: the sicilian on February 09, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
LOL

of course i'm solid..u seen the size of my shoulders ?

lol at less than optimal..i suppose that means trying early to twice bluff off 1 pair hands on paired and flushing boards

I suppose telling the bloke his got AK who then  still calls , laying QQ on a J high dry board and then getting some knob limp with 6 4 and call off a 10bb shove is playing less than optimal then i'm pretty guilty :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 09, 2012, 09:00:18 PM
LOL

of course i'm solid..u seen the size of my shoulders ?

lol at less than optimal..i suppose that means trying early to twice bluff live players off 1 pair hands? [X] Guilty.

I suppose telling the bloke his got AK who then  still calls , laying QQ on a J high dry board and then getting some knob limp with 6 4 and call off a 10bb shove is playing less than optimal then i'm pretty guilty :)

Dean, fyp.

I mean no offence fella, I've seen you at DTD before - playing in cash games other than he 50/1 and told you were 'ok'.. but I go with stereotyped assumptions until shown otherwise.. as they're often close.  And yeah, bluffing live players off 1 pair - doesn't work too often, no matter the board! (I'm still learning this).

WotR - Thanks for reading..

and thanks to everyone who has read this diary! Its a marathon I know! I think I'll only do longer posts like this for the bigger comps I play this year.  I'll try and condense it down next time.



Tonights first session, yes there will be two!
It's a bit misleading as I ran pretty goldhuis like in some 3bt pots with suited connectors! :D :D :D

84.9 minutes
513 hands - played a few dtd sats at same time, bust 1 early and lost one hu to Sunny Mistri and bubbled the 3rd! (all races - sigggh)
Won -                   $60.02
Ev adjusted -         $69.94
VPIP                     27.9%
PFR                      23.3%
3bt                       9.9%
Agg Fct                2.09
WTSD%               36.7% (this is showing that I ran pretty good with runouts)
W$SD%               51.5%

We broke through another $10 bonus and also hit some VPP target, but still need a few more to retain Silver status for this month.. would like to get to Gold.. but we'll see.

Played pretty nice and managed most of our money in pots where our suited connectors made good hands vs gd one pair hands.. flopped a bunch of sets but couldnt get too much money in.. Funny really, it starts to hit home how good the odds need to be to setmine, since it really is hard to get paid off online.  They need tp or better!

Made one insane move.. when someone had the nut flush and bet, bet, checked... we tried to rep his hand... sigh!
gg to that $12..   STOP THIS!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 09, 2012, 10:47:51 PM
please please please quit with the essays I just cant do it.

I just can't


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 09, 2012, 11:33:56 PM
please please please quit with the essays I just cant do it.

I just can't

What does everyone think the best size post is?
(fwiw Lil'd.. I've read your whole blog in the last wk)


Right, second session.... not so great.
We played a couple more dtd sat's - direct ones this time, not "mini's".

We bust all 3 outside of the money in spectacular style...
DTD150 sat -
Didnt play any hands until push/ fold stage then played 2 hands: QQ and AA.. doubled up both times and then get played back at when we are at it.. and 3bt MP1... hero then crain on 1088 flop - ridiculous.  He should've 4bt aipf or folded.. defo not peeled A10!

DTD 6max Sat -
Can't remember exactly...  think our  Qc Qh got bust by  7h 3h or something equally insane on a  Js 3s 3d board.

DTD500 Sat -
Same as 150, played uber solid.. only ever having best hand till later ofc when we up the aggy a bit!  Then we get check-call hero'd by the CL 4 handed with  Qd Jc on

 Ks  Jh 6c  7h Ahrt                 -  WTF???

It was going to cost him 26k from his 80k to call and would lose him his massive CL if he's wrong.  I'd not bluffed in 1 pot vs him and always had it.  Then he justified the call by saying "I can't see what you triple on that board..."

I know what he means but I can easily just 'have it' when I'm risking my stack as well and the other two are short...  Aspades Jc/  Kc Kd etc....
Surely on the river its an ICM fold from him no matter what? - we would both have 85K and the other two guys 30k.



Cash Session

72.9 minutes
405 hands - played a few dtd sats at same time, more bubbles!
Lost -                   -$35.02
Ev adjusted -        -$32.87
VPIP                     26.0%
PFR                      20.3%
3bt                       7.7%
Agg Fct                1.74
WTSD%               40.0% (this is insanely high.. could not seem to get to showdown with the best hand.. ever!)
W$SD%               32.1%



Oh and we played a $28 UKIPT Galway super sat into the nightly $109.. we got to last 4 (2 seats and 1 $$ prize..) then we lost AKs vs 94o aipf..... Siggghhhhhh.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on February 10, 2012, 10:31:12 AM
please please please quit with the essays I just cant do it.

I just can't

What does everyone think the best size post is?


tilt the bold is enough, do not ever ever bold and underline again!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: MC on February 10, 2012, 10:35:53 AM
Wow you're indepth. Can't help thinking the time you spend writing all this stuff out would be better spent studying/watching training videos etc.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 10, 2012, 03:41:32 PM
Wow you're indepth. Can't help thinking the time you spend writing all this stuff out would be better spent studying/watching training videos etc.

This is studying.. I go back over my posts every few days to look at my thought processes, my shame.. and my victories..

This is as much for me to go over, and remember as it is putting myself 'out there' for judgement/ advice/ criticism.


I agree with your comments Pleno about the bankroll assimilation, however I think at the moment.. for me I still need to grind 20-30k hands minimum just to keep 'imprinting' and reinforcing the simple disciplines that others seem to find so easy!  I'm pretty sure that I could beat 25NL and faily sure I could be a small winner at 50NL already.. but I'm certain I will be able to beat them once I 'grind my way' up there.  (its also the only way to get any kind of staking deal... people need XX,000's hands.)

Discipline and grinding my way up is a skill, and I haven't yet learned it.  I'm definitely +ev live.. and the more disciplined I get and the more controlled and properly applied my aggression is the more prepared I'll be for the 200, 400, 600 and 1KNL live games when I am rolled for them.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 10, 2012, 06:48:02 PM
Online Cash Session

128.4 minutes
1100 hands - made sure I had music on so I could focus.
Won -                   $38.22
Ev adjusted -        -$1.10 (only bad one was AA vs 64 on 866ss when he'd 3bt SB preflop...  obv turn an A tyty)
I don't understand this properly yet - AK vs 99 aipf (hit A), QQ vs 55 aipf, 910ss vs 77 on K37sss and 45ss vs A9 on A2Ass..
Any help you guys can give to help me understand this would be appreciated.
VPIP                     28.6%
PFR                      24.0%
3bt                       7.6%
Agg Fct                3.48    (much higher than normal, a lot of check-raising flops n rivers..)
WTSD%               27.8% (this is much better, well done John!!!!!)
W$SD%               52.7%

Still making a couple of mistakes, one of the bigger one's being not reacting properly to prefop tendancies at my level!  Biggest ones being small 3/4bt's with uber premiums.. I try to not peel inpos too much when people have a low 3bt (not the correct way to exploit them) but its sooo tempting.. esp when I have  4s 5s or  6c 8c etc...


Live Pokerz
I've decided to not play the Luton £100fo and instead operate slightly better BRM and play the Northampton Aspers £50fo w/£1/1 cash game after.  I'm easily one of the best players in both and just need to keep my discipline going, and exploit the tendancies of both the live low level tournament players and the cash game players (reg and fish alike).
Mini report to follow before I go to bed tonight.



Life
Can't wait for tomorrow, I'm going to the Christening rehersal of my newly born Goddaughter! (sunday is the real thing) This is really big for me, being involved and responsible for another human is a scary thing.  I'm not religious in the slightest and don't want to voice my views online as they're probably going to offend but needless to say this weekend will likely be one I won't forget any time soon.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on February 11, 2012, 02:12:53 AM
Did u really write 5 paragraphs (including a series of bullet points) about your thought process when you've got 16bigs with Kings and it's gone raise 3-bet in front of you?!

Also, lol at the Tom High BRM Masterclass


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 11, 2012, 05:21:07 AM
Did u really write 5 paragraphs (including a series of bullet points) about your thought process when you've got 16bigs with Kings and it's gone raise 3-bet in front of you?!

Also, lol at the Tom High BRM Masterclass

Guess it sounds silly when you put it like that.. but I wrote about the 'big' hands in my tournament.. and that was an annoying spot where I'm monstrously unbalanced and the villain should be able to get away from 90% of his hands..
Thanks for reading though Andy, any other comments more than welcome???

This isn't too long a post, mainly just one hand which is probably just stupid spew...
Live Pokerz
SIGH @ Live Pokerz!!!

We played a little silly at the start, got out hands burnt and then reminded ourself we don't need to do anything but value-bet well and make sensible folds.

1. We lose a decent sized pot when our 7h 5h gets outhoused by  5c 4s on  5d 5s 6h............. we bet fold a  4c river after a speech from him.

2. We lose when our  Ac Aspades runs into  Ks Th on  Kc Jc 6d  7d Kd... only called river £15 into £120 because I'm a fish who wanted to see, should have folded.

3. We transfer tables and play uber nitty, taking a better seat (pos on weak players) when it comes up then play like a nit until we get  Kd Kc and flat a 3bt pre flop, comes  Ks high and we a double up vs  Aspades Ahrt. :D

4. Our next  Kd Kc gets outdrawn by  6s 8s of Suni Mistri.




Then we're playing pretty solid and snug until this happens.
£1/1
limp, limp, in CO we make it £10 with  Ks Qs, BTN calls, Suni M SB calls, call, call.

Pot (£51) £420 effective
Flop
 Ts 6s 4d

Checks to us, we bet £32, fold, Suni calls, fold, fold, fold.

Suni can have anything here.. he doesn't like folding pairs, but he's going to give our Cbet a lot of credit and I'd expect him to reraise with a set/ combo draw here and expect us to have an overpair often.  Its just going to be too easy for us to checkback a turn card.

Pot (£111)
Turn
 5d

No reason to slow down yet, he's going to struggle with his one pair hands when we barrell this and as above he shouldn't have many monsters without turning them.

Suni checks, we bet £55, Suni raises to £160..... Hmmmm... strange!

I don't like this as I don't think he will be bluffing in this spot very often, however its not impossible (that turn card gives him soooo many pair + fddraw +straight draw hands).  I really like his sizing, he has me covered and I now only have like £260 left-ish.  I guess I could/ should fold here and that calling is pretty shoddy however I thought if I do, because he's obviously setting up a river shove.... IF I'm flatting, knowing he is setting it up then my range becomes a lot stronger than if i 3bt this turn & 3bting it is pretty shocking.

I think in retro-spect that I should have just folded the turn but at the time I was thinking that because there are two flush draws and he doesn't know which, if either are safe to bomb on.. that it might stop him shoving a  2s or  2d river with air.

Pot (£431)
River
 9h

Pretty perfect river brick obviously... Suni picks up his chips like a special boy and somehow they fall all over the place as they go across the line.
£25's go backwards, and the £5's go in but everywhere... IMO only £40 drops in the first instance and I'm not certain but he doesn't seem chuffed about it.  After the whole table tell me "he tried to put them all in" and I remind them, "yes, he tried but thats not what actually happened".  Eventually the cardroom manager comes back after a camera check and tells me in his opinion the "All in" stands... SIGH!

I now run the hand back in my head... its such a 'nutty' line.. and I know he doesn't have a fold button pre so he can have ANYTHING!!  that includes all the  Jd 7d type hands that turned oesd + fd combo!  In which case vs all these diamond or spade combo draws my K high is good.
(I appreciate this seems crazy to most, but Suni and I have played a lot of pots together and I really dont think he always has to have it here)

After all this, I remind myself that in actual fact I haven't seen him turn up in £500+ pots for a long time without 'it'.  And fold.

Maybe everyone just thinks this is ridiculous spew, especially when the table clearly didn't notice how tight I was pre and kept paying me off despite only ever showing premiums.  I'm not sure this hand 'tilted' me but a few hands later I make a move from the SB on a  9d 6s 4s 9h board where I check shove the turn with  Ahrt Ks because the OR in the hand is a weak overly aggressive chinese player without a fold button and that AK high can actually be a head vs him a lot....  He sigh calls with  Ad Ac - FML!
GG £400.

I then still decide to reload for my last £100 for a 'spin up' and gg that when all my premiums either miss or run out on sick boards.. and end up straddle-shoving  Ks 2s to only get snapped off by  Aspades 3s. GG John, wp.





Either way, GG to £500 and are effectively not playing live again until we earn it!!!  I'm going to use the DTD online money to 'win' satellites and after we win our entry any after that can be 'cashed'... so here we come £550/ time!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: PeeJay on February 11, 2012, 06:00:25 AM
If you say that Sunny knows that your range for cbetting into a number of players has to be pretty strong and he'd expect you to show up with an overpaid here often then he's probably not gonna go bananas and try making you fold such a strong range that often. It's a fold imo because f that fact the you've said Sunny can have any two and the fact it just "looks" like you have an over pair. He was probably annoyed at the fact his all in bet on the river may have only stood as £40 when he wants you to pay him the lot! Deffo can't really justify calling the river with K high that often without soul reads so seems a pretty trivial fold. No need to get the cape out and hero people off on ridiculaous spots!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: zerofive on February 11, 2012, 06:15:51 AM
If you say that Sunny knows that your range for cbetting into a number of players has to be pretty strong and he'd expect you to show up with an overpaid here often then he's probably not gonna go bananas and try making you fold such a strong range that often. It's a fold imo because f that fact the you've said Sunny can have any two and the fact it just "looks" like you have an over pair. He was probably annoyed at the fact his all in bet on the river may have only stood as £40 when he wants you to pay him the lot! Deffo can't really justify calling the river with K high that often without soul reads so seems a pretty trivial fold. No need to get the cape out and hero people off on ridiculaous spots!

Disregard that. Be a hero.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: PeeJay on February 11, 2012, 06:26:06 AM
Don't listen to Sean, he isn't that clever. I saw him hero Tom High earlier for £600 effective with 5 high. Wasn't good of course, he flopped the nuts...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 11, 2012, 07:26:58 AM
If you say that Sunny knows that your range for cbetting into a number of players has to be pretty strong and he'd expect you to show up with an overpaid here often then he's probably not gonna go bananas and try making you fold such a strong range that often. It's a fold imo because f that fact the you've said Sunny can have any two and the fact it just "looks" like you have an over pair. He was probably annoyed at the fact his all in bet on the river may have only stood as £40 when he wants you to pay him the lot! Deffo can't really justify calling the river with K high that often without soul reads so seems a pretty trivial fold. No need to get the cape out and hero people off on ridiculaous spots!

Disregard that. Be a hero.

This kind of thinking is what wins bracelets! :D


So we played a little online session to still prove we can win at poker.

[ ] We won.

Online Cash Session

103.5 minutes
932 hands -
Lost -                   -$0.48
Ev adjusted -       +$3.92
VPIP                     28.0%
PFR                      22.1%
3bt                       9.5%
Agg Fct                1.51
WTSD%               36.2% (bit high)
W$SD%               46.9%

Made a few spazzy bluffs and one annoying one where someone is only repping a set, and face up.. but we decide to shove and properly rep the set.
[ ] We had a set
[X] He had a set
[ ] We had outs
[ ] We won
[ ] Felt big and clever afterwards
[X] Still a spazzz


I think I need to spend the next few hours 'playing' by actually going through my weeks hand histories, trying to see what and where I'm playing well and what's not working and what I need to curb.
Is it particular board textures?
Particular positions?
etc etc..



Also, I decided to unlock 3x $10 rewards for FPP achievements.. so actually +$30! :D

Stars roll @ $428.31



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rfgqqabc on February 11, 2012, 07:44:03 AM
Live Pokeys is all about realising who thinks. The majority of people do not.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on February 11, 2012, 01:13:56 PM
Did u really write 5 paragraphs (including a series of bullet points) about your thought process when you've got 16bigs with Kings and it's gone raise 3-bet in front of you?!

Also, lol at the Tom High BRM Masterclass

Guess it sounds silly when you put it like that.. but I wrote about the 'big' hands in my tournament.. and that was an annoying spot where I'm monstrously unbalanced and the villain should be able to get away from 90% of his hands..
Thanks for reading though Andy, any other comments more than welcome???

This isn't too long a post, mainly just one hand which is probably just stupid spew...
Live Pokerz
SIGH @ Live Pokerz!!!

We played a little silly at the start, got out hands burnt and then reminded ourself we don't need to do anything but value-bet well and make sensible folds.

1. We lose a decent sized pot when our 7h 5h gets outhoused by  5c 4s on  5d 5s 6h............. we bet fold a  4c river after a speech from him.

2. We lose when our  Ac Aspades runs into  Ks Th on  Kc Jc 6d  7d Kd... only called river £15 into £120 because I'm a fish who wanted to see, should have folded.

3. We transfer tables and play uber nitty, taking a better seat (pos on weak players) when it comes up then play like a nit until we get  Kd Kc and flat a 3bt pre flop, comes  Ks high and we a double up vs  Aspades Ahrt. :D

4. Our next  Kd Kc gets outdrawn by  6s 8s of Suni Mistri.




Then we're playing pretty solid and snug until this happens.
£1/1
limp, limp, in CO we make it £10 with  Ks Qs, BTN calls, Suni M SB calls, call, call.

Pot (£51) £420 effective
Flop
 Ts 6s 4d

Checks to us, we bet £32, fold, Suni calls, fold, fold, fold.

Suni can have anything here.. he doesn't like folding pairs, but he's going to give our Cbet a lot of credit and I'd expect him to reraise with a set/ combo draw here and expect us to have an overpair often.  Its just going to be too easy for us to checkback a turn card.

Pot (£111)
Turn
 5d

No reason to slow down yet, he's going to struggle with his one pair hands when we barrell this and as above he shouldn't have many monsters without turning them.

Suni checks, we bet £55, Suni raises to £160..... Hmmmm... strange!

I don't like this as I don't think he will be bluffing in this spot very often, however its not impossible (that turn card gives him soooo many pair + fddraw +straight draw hands).  I really like his sizing, he has me covered and I now only have like £260 left-ish.  I guess I could/ should fold here and that calling is pretty shoddy however I thought if I do, because he's obviously setting up a river shove.... IF I'm flatting, knowing he is setting it up then my range becomes a lot stronger than if i 3bt this turn & 3bting it is pretty shocking.

I think in retro-spect that I should have just folded the turn but at the time I was thinking that because there are two flush draws and he doesn't know which, if either are safe to bomb on.. that it might stop him shoving a  2s or  2d river with air.

Pot (£431)
River
 9h

Pretty perfect river brick obviously... Suni picks up his chips like a special boy and somehow they fall all over the place as they go across the line.
£25's go backwards, and the £5's go in but everywhere... IMO only £40 drops in the first instance and I'm not certain but he doesn't seem chuffed about it.  After the whole table tell me "he tried to put them all in" and I remind them, "yes, he tried but thats not what actually happened".  Eventually the cardroom manager comes back after a camera check and tells me in his opinion the "All in" stands... SIGH!

I now run the hand back in my head... its such a 'nutty' line.. and I know he doesn't have a fold button pre so he can have ANYTHING!!  that includes all the  Jd 7d type hands that turned oesd + fd combo!  In which case vs all these diamond or spade combo draws my K high is good.
(I appreciate this seems crazy to most, but Suni and I have played a lot of pots together and I really dont think he always has to have it here)

After all this, I remind myself that in actual fact I haven't seen him turn up in £500+ pots for a long time without 'it'.  And fold.

Maybe everyone just thinks this is ridiculous spew, especially when the table clearly didn't notice how tight I was pre and kept paying me off despite only ever showing premiums.  I'm not sure this hand 'tilted' me but a few hands later I make a move from the SB on a  9d 6s 4s 9h board where I check shove the turn with  Ahrt Ks because the OR in the hand is a weak overly aggressive chinese player without a fold button and that AK high can actually be a head vs him a lot....  He sigh calls with  Ad Ac - FML!
GG £400.

I then still decide to reload for my last £100 for a 'spin up' and gg that when all my premiums either miss or run out on sick boards.. and end up straddle-shoving  Ks 2s to only get snapped off by  Aspades 3s. GG John, wp.





Either way, GG to £500 and are effectively not playing live again until we earn it!!!  I'm going to use the DTD online money to 'win' satellites and after we win our entry any after that can be 'cashed'... so here we come £550/ time!

If Sunny doesn't like folding pairs then its a pretty bad turn to barrel cos if he had some sort of gutshot or open ender hes now got one, and if he had a weakish pair hand hes now got a gutshot/straight draw as insurance.

Triple barrelling here is ok i suppose, but once raised u gotta fold. You're massively overthinking the spot. When your saying "it looks like hes setting up a river shove, so if i flat then it looks strong", you should just be thinking: "It looks like hes setting up a river shove, which means he's going to probably shove the river, and I'm going to have King High most of the time"


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on February 11, 2012, 01:23:24 PM
Live Pokeys is all about realising who thinks. The majority of people do not.

incred post.

so much this


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 12, 2012, 11:01:53 PM
Live Pokeys is all about realising who thinks. The majority of people do not.

incred post.

so much this

So the Christening rehersal and the actual thing went well today....

Did my duties, kept track of the church service and hymn's well (not that I am a believer).  Then a party back the parents house to get a few photos and some nibbles.  I didn't feel very comfortable with saying all the things I was asked to say "I will take jesus every day and let him guide my way.." etc..  But i discussed it with the parents and grandparents before and turns out they're not really religious which made it easier to say these things with them.
Anyone had this kind or moral dilemma? / what would you do?

Then came home and realised that this Sunday DTD do have on the mega sats and 10 seat DTD500 sat (didn't last week, with no explanation as to why not from the DTD help team...)



Online DTD Satellite session

Played the following:
1. 3x 6 Euros for £150 deepstack mega sat seat - 1Rup (disconnected), 1 win and 1 bubble...
2. 3x 20 Euros for £500 deepstack mega sat seat - 1 direct bubble, 1 win, 1 close to bubble b2b 70/30's to lose stack..
3. 2x Grand Prix sats - CL in both for most of tournament, lost a few 70/30's or 60/40's.. in one I got to 5bb's and called off with KJo - bad? (lost vs AQo)

Now in the big ones (the mega sats for actual seats) we're doing well-ish...
£150 deepstack sat - 19/20 bit card dead last two levels.
£500 deepstack sat - 6/22 good stack and good looking table.

Cmon! :D





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 12, 2012, 11:55:34 PM
oh man, you make me wanna right essays on so much stuff you say.

I just don't have time tho....


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 13, 2012, 12:23:17 AM
oh man, you make me wanna right essays on so much stuff you say.

I just don't have time tho....

I hope that's a good thing... maybe you can skype me in the evenings and tell me.. make it easier.. then I'll write it on here! :D


Played the following:
1. 3x 6 Euros for £150 deepstack mega sat seat - 1Rup (disconnected), 1 win and 1 bubble...
2. 3x 20 Euros for £500 deepstack mega sat seat - 1 direct bubble, 1 win, 1 close to bubble b2b 70/30's to lose stack..
3. 2x Grand Prix sats - CL in both for most of tournament, lost a few 70/30's or 60/40's.. in one I got to 5bb's and called off with KJo - bad? (lost vs AQo)

Now in the big ones (the mega sats for actual seats) we're doing well-ish...
£150 deepstack sat - 19/20 bit card dead last two levels.
£500 deepstack sat - 6/22 good stack and good looking table.



DTD Sats
£150 deepstack - built a nice stack wth a few 3bt shoves and then won a flip in a pretty big spot with AK vs 44.
Got a seat! ;topofclass;
£550 deepstack - really slowly built a stack with a 11/8 VPIP/ PFR until last 20.. then opened up a little and made some nice 3bts.. - owned Sunny Mistri in a few spots which was nice. :D :D :D (on my direct left with a CL for a while)
Got a seat!  ;snoopy'sguns;


So to roundup today - we spent around £78 to win £150 worth of Mega Sat entries.. then crushed the sats for 880 Euros = Goood day!  :)up ;cheerleader; :)up


Would like to ship a decent chunk of the newly GTD £50k prize pool!   :cheers:


GL to all and laters....





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: scotty77 on February 13, 2012, 12:34:24 AM
Re the Sunni hand.....don't try and be a hero against a player like him when there are so many easier spots at the table...especially when ur not really rolled for the games. Save the levelling wars until after u ship 30k plus in a donkament :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 13, 2012, 11:24:30 PM
Couldn't win today....


Online Cash Session

93.7 minutes
609 hands -
Lost -                   -$48.26
Ev adjusted -       -$37.55
VPIP                     25.7%
PFR                      20.4%
3bt                       5.7%
Agg Fct                1.40
WTSD%               39.4% (very high.. this was due to the amount of TINY river bets i faced where I had strong hands n called to see rivered 2p's etc..)
W$SD%               43.2% (made a couple of nice A high calls)


Currently 15/20 in the DTD150 mega sat.. trying to get another seat for the ££'s since these sats are so soft.. like free monies unless i get coolered.



The Tournament Poker Edge videos are helping a lot with my own satellite structure play and MTT theory.  I'm thinking I might try the Stars step satellite program to get into some of the weekly majors and look into trying to get some bigger entry live tournies.. - UKIPTS etc...

Still not signed up to Deuces Cracked yet, but that's still on the list.  The cash videos there will be a key asset to my cash progression.. but I think a couple of hours a week reviewings hands will be a big part of spotting my own leaks/ problems.


Right, back to the sat.. 9 more places to go for another DTD150 seat.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on February 13, 2012, 11:30:51 PM
hey mate, vefore u play another hand of poker catch me on skype.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: h on February 13, 2012, 11:58:54 PM
Currently 15/20 in the DTD150 mega sat.. trying to get another seat for the ££'s since these sats are so soft.. like free monies unless i get coolered.



keep rasing my bb and you will lol


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: h on February 14, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
Currently 15/20 in the DTD150 mega sat.. trying to get another seat for the ££'s since these sats are so soft.. like free monies unless i get coolered.



keep rasing my bb and you will lol

wp m8


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 14, 2012, 12:25:03 AM
hey mate, vefore u play another hand of poker catch me on skype.

will do pleno.. tonight I think im going to give Charlene some time... but tomorrow?

Currently 15/20 in the DTD150 mega sat.. trying to get another seat for the ££'s since these sats are so soft.. like free monies unless i get coolered.



keep rasing my bb and you will lol

Dude, with my stack its what I gota do... you guys can't afford to mess - standard sat strat.  The A3o call was horrendous really.. should just shove into me.  So glad I binked the 9.




DTD150 Mega Satellite
I won another DTD150 seat just now... played really standard solid Satellite tournament strategy... only having one 'troublespot' where I got AIPF bbvsb where the dude min raises  Ad 3h and I shove for 15bb's with  Kh 9h and he snaps.

Board runs out
 8c Qh 2s 8d............ 9s          :hello: Oh hello dere..

As usual, from the last 15 to final 10 I stepped up the aggression and played really well.  As has been common in my short Sat histroy, I have slowly but surely built a big stack and been able to sail through from 13 left to the final 10!.

That's us free rolling into both the DTD150 and DTD500 now.  Hoping to have a +£1k/ month on DTD while playing these if they continue as they are.


Time to make the misses feel appreciated.......... glme!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on February 14, 2012, 09:45:49 PM
hey u about?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 14, 2012, 10:02:31 PM
I am, but spending tonight with the missus im afraid. Around tomorrow?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on February 15, 2012, 08:33:17 AM
Quote from: jgcblack link=topic=56559.msg1509194#msg1509194 date=1329179103

Time to make the misses feel appreciated.......... glme!
[/quote

brag post?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 15, 2012, 12:06:34 PM
this is compulsive reading, i was expecting a car-crash but tbf to you you're doing pretty good.

keep it up


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on February 15, 2012, 12:35:35 PM
this is compulsive reading, i was expecting a car-crash but tbf to you you're doing pretty good.

keep it up

this! go john!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 15, 2012, 12:44:00 PM

Quote from: jgcblack link=topic=56559.msg1509194#msg1509194 date=1329179103

Time to make the misses feel appreciated.......... glme!
[/quote

brag post?

Own diary, brag posts definitely going to be commonplace.


this is compulsive reading, i was expecting a car-crash but tbf to you you're doing pretty good.

keep it up

Not sure if I should be offended or not.. but thanks and feel free to unload those essay like responses you really want to write - when you have time away from crushing the world of online or live PLO.

I must admit Lil'D that your blog has given me a sweet insight into the life of a 'pro' and its sickly at times.  Just reading about some of the pots you've played, both won and lost.. I've even checked the odd's on some of them as I'm basic PLO literate but not particularly talented with hand ranges/ strengths yet.. and some of them made me puke in my own mouth a little.
Big props to you sir - #takingitlikeonlyadegencan


As far as everything else goes... I'm going to be trying to get hold of Pleno tonight if he's about and i'll probably be playing the DTD150 sat again to try for a 3rd seat of 3 attempts.  With these and the DTD500 'week' at the end of each month, I'm really hoping to build up a sizable roll online while I grind on stars to instill the discipline i need for both my own good and for anyone else to ever have the faith to back me long term.

I know I am good enough, clever enough and work hard enough to be a decent winner in NLHE cash games, but that a few key tweaks here and there are what I need before I start climbing the 'serious' ladder needed for improvement up and through 100NL and beyond.
I will beat 6max cash games, and I will beat NLHE hu.


And live poker is easy, I am beating it! (<£1k events and game selection up to £1KNL)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 15, 2012, 12:49:29 PM
this is compulsive reading, i was expecting a car-crash but tbf to you you're doing pretty good.

keep it up

this! go john!

Thanks dude, really appreciate it.

I'd like to be rolled to use my copious amounts of annual leave to travel a little and get to some of the 'closer' events and tours... in similar fashion to the Eureka team.
Got a few friends that are working the UK tour, and with travel expense sharing and satellites..

[X] In for pennies to bink 5 or 6 figs.  ;kev; ;slavedriver; ;karabiner;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 15, 2012, 07:52:28 PM
A very interesting and potentially very important thing in my poker life happened just now... can't say much just yet.  But watch this space!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on February 15, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
A very interesting and potentially very important thing in my poker life happened just now... can't say much just yet.  But watch this space!

In b4 u reveal pleno is staking you?!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 15, 2012, 09:24:04 PM
I must admit Lil'D that your blog has given me a sweet insight into the life of a 'pro' and its sickly at times.  Just reading about some of the pots you've played, both won and lost.. I've even checked the odd's on some of them as I'm basic PLO literate but not particularly talented with hand ranges/ strengths yet.. and some of them made me puke in my own mouth a little.
Big props to you sir - #takingitlikeonlyadegencan

It's a strange thing that happens and it clicks in your head one day, you realise that nothing can happen in poker that ever really matters, you kind of reach a point where you've played so much that the results aren't that important to you, you don't feel the need to make master plays every hand and need to win the hand in order to validate it, basically it's just when poker starts to mean a little less to you than it did at the beginning. However at the start of any career you're always going to be really enthusiastic and take the initial variance a little harder than you should because it will, and it should, mean more to you because it's a point of such intense focus. So certainly not a criticism at all, the opposite in fact, you can't really get any further without going through that period (could last 2 months, 2 years whatever)

My earlier post about expecting a car-crash wasn't worded particularly well, although Alex snap knew what I meant, most people start out on these kind of journey's like the one you've set about and it just explodes because they require a set of disciplines that the person doesn't have. When you said in answer to Pleno that the skill of grinding your way up and studying your game isn't one you have yet then that was very impressive, most people would know that they didn;t have that and just hope that they'd run good enough not to need it. What I meant was you're sticking to your guns and going about things properly which is very much to your credit.

I am privy (I think) to the interesting and important thing you are talking about and I discussed it with the other person involved (who may or may not be Pleno) at reasonable length today and think it will be a great great move for you. If you go about it in the right way (as you have been doing) and really focus and try get everything you can out of the oppurtunity then I think it will be a fantasic thing, he doesn't have a lot of time but you could learn a lot from the person who may or not be Pleno, he's a very good teacher of the game, has great result at low-midstakes online NLHE and live and a really great network of very good players.

And live poker is easy, I am beating it! (<£1k events and game selection up to £1KNL)

steer clear of this type of thoughts though, yes Live poker can be easier than online, but the differences in style and opponents needs to be respected as much as any other type of poker.

Keep up the good work mate, best of luck.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 15, 2012, 09:25:56 PM
and no more essays from me btw!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on February 15, 2012, 10:01:42 PM
Given your recent run of satellite wins I wondered what your thoughts were on re-entry in the GP when the blinds were virtually at the end of the 200/400 level.
5,000 chips is a shove or fold stack and whilst I'm sure you know the ranges wouldn't the buyin be better spent on a fresh stack at the start of one of the many more opportunities to secure a Golden Chip?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on February 15, 2012, 10:07:04 PM
Is the good news pleno s staking u n lildave is coaching u on team viewer ?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 15, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
Wow, well to some of you GTFO on the pre-emting! :D But yes I am considering an offer of sorts from someone who may or may not be called Pleno.

and no more essays from me btw!

I hope this is not the case David! I am looking forward to picking your brains in person someday, but in the meantime on here is all I've got!

Given your recent run of satellite wins I wondered what your thoughts were on re-entry in the GP when the blinds were virtually at the end of the 200/400 level.
5,000 chips is a shove or fold stack and whilst I'm sure you know the ranges wouldn't the buyin be better spent on a fresh stack at the start of one of the many more opportunities to secure a Golden Chip?

I appreciate your point David, and I saw your comment at the time - but as you say I feel my 'shove/fold' game will be closer to optimal than many of the other people playing these.. as such, its obviously ideal to get a 10-15k stack by the 200/400 level.  However.. something that's been said in the short stack videos I've been watching is that 'grinding' the short stack is a skill in its own.. and once i've invested X amount of time in a GP sat, its definitely not -ev to rebuy once or twice if i have a good table.
I can't remember how i bust that particular satellite but I think I've bust all the GP sats with a monster vs dominated hand or overcard.  So I don't mind.

I also think the GP sats seem to be timed rather awkwardly.. being at 8 or 10 when the main tournaments im playing are at 7 and 9pm!  I think that is the first 'rebuy' but it's a pretty close decision imo.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on February 15, 2012, 10:49:30 PM
Hadn't considered the time investment, and I'm sure that  people with a good shove/fold game are rare in these games. I wouldn't do it beyond the middle of the 100/200 and only then if there weren't many opportunities left. But then I'm not big on reentering tournaments generally

10pm fits pretty well with the 9pm satellite if you're planning on being in the satellite for a while...



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 15, 2012, 11:32:45 PM
Hadn't considered the time investment, and I'm sure that  people with a good shove/fold game are rare in these games. I wouldn't do it beyond the middle of the 100/200 and only then if there weren't many opportunities left. But then I'm not big on reentering tournaments generally

10pm fits pretty well with the 9pm satellite if you're planning on being in the satellite for a while...



Sure, the time takes away time in between.  I'm trying to play the 5/6pm mini sat to get into the 9pm cheap.  Then have a coupla hours with the missus and dinner before I 'grind' the rest of the evening away.. so the 8pm is right in the middle.



DTD150 Sat
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm........
Just bust it in pretty spectacular style.

Only lost two hands of note today, both to the same guy - Villain 1.

First one is my  Ac Th vs  Ahrt Qs when the guy flat calls my MP raise from BB and cr then 3xpot shoves turn on  Aspades 7c 4d  8h.
I don't like calling the turn but I've seen spazzy bluffs in these from some dtd 'regs'.  I only called here because I can be ahead a fair chunk and that I satellited in for £6 earlier, so if i lose - rebuying here is just like buying in anyways... which I had already done before I won the seat.

Second one is this...
We've played really solid the entire time and built a nice stack, having super strong hands at showdown and never getting caught or called when we've made some nice semi-bluffs.

DTD150 Satellite - blinds 400/800
Villain 1 limps the button (29k), SB completes (9.5k) and We check our option with  8c 5h or something (24k)..

Pot $3200ish (includes antes)
Flop
 Qs Td 7h

SB checks, we decide to lead for 1875, BTN calls, SB folds.
imo - The BTN isn't likely folding this flop but he cant ever have better than one pair and the SB would lead ALL pairs so we're going to give him all 3 barrells here as he will never be able to call all 3.

Pot $6950
Turn
 7s

We continue our plan on this card and bet 4200, BTN calls.

Pretty amazing card, we can easily have lead any pair on the flop and as he can't have many 7's he will likely call here but fold 100% of rivers when we size it so we have a shove sized bet left.


Pot $15350 - we have $17925 effective
River
 4s

Loving this card, there's so few hands that he can have except exactly  Ts  9s or  Ts 8s that can get to this river like this and call.

With our line we can even have a house here, but obviously he's not folding a flush.  I'm 100% sure he's folding here with anything less than a flush and as we said at the start of the hand, he's going to be getting all 3 barrells when we think he's good and he limps the BTN here - his range is so capped its ridiculous.

We shove and get snapped!

that'll be the  Ts 8s exactly then.

Sigggggh!



Yet again, needless random spew sends us out of a tournament.  Yes, I know this is a great play long term and the guy will never be able to call here often enough to make it a problem.  Nevermind.


bleugh @ playing so solid and sick then running a sick hand for the reasons above and the guy rivers his miracle out! The only rivers I don't shove on are  Q's and 10's.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on February 16, 2012, 01:34:09 PM
Your thinking in that hand is ok, but basically the 85 hand is not a great play long term and it is just massive spew. You have a good stack in a satellite at a pretty important stage, and ur now deciding to triple barrel a guy who limps the button off top pair. People really dont like folding top pair regardless of what you do (especially people who like to limp the button), and also you really arent repping many value hands yourself even if he is thinking. Why would you lead a 7? Why do you think the small blind would lead all pairs? How do you know this guy will fold a queen? Why can the button not have a 7?

Maybe the river bluff is profitable but half the money you are making from it is money you've put in yourself anyway on non-profitable flop and turn bets. This is probably the nut worst board to donk bet against a button limper as its really hard for him to have absolutely nothing, so you're always getting called, and then having to fire barrels which basically just compounds your problem.

You really do just need to keep it dead simple in a DTD satellite. 85offsuit in a 3 way pot on a QT7, check fold. It's that simple.

Something else to consider is that if the board does run out badly for you to barrel, your flop bet in a vacuum is basically just burning money, and at this point those chips are really worth a lot to you, you can use them in far better ways to accumulate small pots, whereas if u get down to 20bigs you have far less room to manoeuvre.

Wish u all the best with the potential staking deal if that's what it is


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Lucky on February 16, 2012, 07:52:31 PM
Your thinking in that hand is ok, but basically the 85 hand is not a great play long term and it is just massive spew. You have a good stack in a satellite at a pretty important stage, and ur now deciding to triple barrel a guy who limps the button off top pair. People really dont like folding top pair regardless of what you do (especially people who like to limp the button), and also you really arent repping many value hands yourself even if he is thinking. Why would you lead a 7? Why do you think the small blind would lead all pairs? How do you know this guy will fold a queen? Why can the button not have a 7?

Maybe the river bluff is profitable but half the money you are making from it is money you've put in yourself anyway on non-profitable flop and turn bets. This is probably the nut worst board to donk bet against a button limper as its really hard for him to have absolutely nothing, so you're always getting called, and then having to fire barrels which basically just compounds your problem.

You really do just need to keep it dead simple in a DTD satellite. 85offsuit in a 3 way pot on a QT7, check fold. It's that simple.

Something else to consider is that if the board does run out badly for you to barrel, your flop bet in a vacuum is basically just burning money, and at this point those chips are really worth a lot to you, you can use them in far better ways to accumulate small pots, whereas if u get down to 20bigs you have far less room to manoeuvre.

Wish u all the best with the potential staking deal if that's what it is

Maybe its the prospective backer who will need wishing luck ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 16, 2012, 08:00:52 PM
Your thinking in that hand is ok, but basically the 85 hand is not a great play long term and it is just massive spew. You have a good stack in a satellite at a pretty important stage, and ur now deciding to triple barrel a guy who limps the button off top pair. People really dont like folding top pair regardless of what you do (especially people who like to limp the button), and also you really arent repping many value hands yourself even if he is thinking. Why would you lead a 7? Why do you think the small blind would lead all pairs? How do you know this guy will fold a queen? Why can the button not have a 7?

Maybe the river bluff is profitable but half the money you are making from it is money you've put in yourself anyway on non-profitable flop and turn bets. This is probably the nut worst board to donk bet against a button limper as its really hard for him to have absolutely nothing, so you're always getting called, and then having to fire barrels which basically just compounds your problem.

You really do just need to keep it dead simple in a DTD satellite. 85offsuit in a 3 way pot on a QT7, check fold. It's that simple.

Something else to consider is that if the board does run out badly for you to barrel, your flop bet in a vacuum is basically just burning money, and at this point those chips are really worth a lot to you, you can use them in far better ways to accumulate small pots, whereas if u get down to 20bigs you have far less room to manoeuvre.

Wish u all the best with the potential staking deal if that's what it is


Completely agree with all of the above Andy

I didn't realise you were a reader. Hope you enjoy my ramblings... and tbh you are very much part of the reason I posted that first hand history and by proxy responsible for my being more active on here, starting the diary I wanted to but hadn't and anything that comes from it.  For this, I thank you.
Remind me to get you a beer next time I'm trying to float with backdoor hands...   :cheers:

Just had a gym session with my bro, we've stepped it up to 2x a week now (mon and wed normally) and today I decided to push myself a little and 'up' my weights.  My arms are now recovering and despite having that 'just worked out, looking like hercules' feeling.... It is difficult to lift them. ;surrender;

So obv now I'm going to tennis for club training! :D

And then out to hang out with my newly single ex-wingman Ollie, who is a legend in his own lunchtime!


I am very excited by life, poker, tennis and my lovely lady Charlene at the moment... ;mexicanwave;
(After a couple of rough weeks in all of the above its feeling sweet!)



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 19, 2012, 02:40:40 AM
Today was a day for testing our resolve...

It was a day where we lose all the time and can't find a hand despite having perfect table draws and seats.

- if we have KK they have AQ and win.  ;)
- if we have Top pair and a flush draw they've already got a flush  8)
- if we have A10 vs a maniac... he has AK  :)up
- if we 4bt K9 blind vs blind they have AA and comes K high  ;djinn;
- when we do flop a monster 55 on A53A they fold their dead flush draw.. yup, that'll do it.  ;hattip;


SIGHHHHH!  :redcard:

Still love poker and still want to grind.. which is definitely good.  Being able to lose as many hands as I have today and still love it all is very important imo.  ;indestructable;

Ready for the sunday grinding DTD sats and i might even try a few pokerstars sunday majors sats since all I've been watching from TPE is sunday major 'sweats'.  Many of the hands i've been watching seem 'super standard' and the pro's been running good too im sure.

Good luck to everyone in DTD150 day 2 tomorrow! ;goodluck;

Current heros are:-
David L'honore - general poker hero, up in Leeds tonight getting wasted cos he wins tournaments too easily if he's sober.
Tom Langley - will 'own' everyones soul until there's only one left... then he will own himself at the tuck shop
Sunny Mistri - will standardly get himself down to 5bb's in the first 6 hands then grind till he cashes with 7bb's 4 hours later!

Good luck to all the Blondites!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 20, 2012, 12:28:07 AM
Big News..
So as some people have guessed already, I was in discussion with Pleno after he approached me offering a staking deal.   ;cupcake;  :birthday:

 ;mexicanwave;

And we have agreed on a sponsorship of 6max cash beginning at 25NL and moving up as soon as we're comfy.
Plan is to grind 4 tables on Party poker 25NL 6max. 
Grinding 20bi's with a daily stop loss, and putting in 20k hands minimum per month.

He will be my personal coach, with us doing teamviewer, hand history review and one to one discussions and strategy.
The people, resources and insight that Pleno can provide will far outweigh his % im sure.. and imo this is by far the strongest way for me to improve quickly.

I can't thank him enough and will be beginning the deal on 1st March, so I've got a little while to spin up my $$ on stars then that'll be kept for satelliting into bigger live comps and some mtt/ hu cash on the side.


Todays grind
Decided to try some micro MTT's today.. and played a bunch of $1, $2, $3 big field MTT's.  We've been watching MTT videos for the last two weeks and felt super comfortable, only making two small mistakes.

We went deep and cashed in a $1 and $3.. pretty brutal exits in both. ($1 aiotf with AQ vs KQ on 1062r .... 9 J then.... sigh!)

And bust all the rest in 70/30 fashion, the only mistake we made was in the sunday storm when we cr A5 on an AxxA board and when he 3bt it we knew we were screw but called it off just in case - shown Aj obv.  (Think we might have had a straight draw as well as our 5 as an out)

We also played the DTD500 mini satellites and bust one.. then won the second - hu vs James Tomlin.  We started the DTD500 Main sat at 9pm and have just finished.. getting our 2nd seat this month already, out of 2 chances!  :hello:

We haven't even gotten to the last week when they have one on every night!!! Lets ship some more ££'s please!


I don't know what else to say except thanks to all that read, and that hopefully this diary will take on quite a boost with the sponsorship and DTD satellite grinding going well.  In 6 months it would be really nice to have hit most if not all of my yearly goals and to be working on setting up a decent live and online calendar on a regular basis. ;letsparty;




In a small side note.. I've obviously been working on my game a lot recently... and I've been trying to help and advise some 'poker mates' about some leaks in their game.. but all I get from them is 'but i already win a lot' blah blah and saying 'am I bringing a book out soon?'

Do you guys bother with people that are nice, fun people but have big leaks and don't seem to listen or care???   


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 21, 2012, 12:35:37 AM
So I don't think I put this in black and white properly from the weekend...

We won two DTD150 seats the week previous, used one to enter and cashed the other in for some satellite ££'s!

Got to DTD on saturday and couldnt win, so used the first entry and decided to re-enter... couldnt win there and busto.  So, instead of play the soft cash games at DTD when not really rolled for them, and being too far away from Harrow, London to see Charlene we decided to go home.  On the way, thought why not play the Aspers northampton £25 tourny... can probably win a hand in that one.. and if we binked it, it would almost certainly pay for the weekends hassle.
Played well and didn't bluff, managed to get lots of chippies and see some crazy stuff (Standard live pokerz).


Aspers £25 tourny Sat night
Craziest thing we saw was this..
7 handed blinds @ 150/300 I think.. we have 7.8k or something..
Super Nit (Leo MClean) opens for 675 (playing 5.2k), I call with  Jc 9c (knowing how he plays and that we don't need to hit a flop to win vs him), Chinese villain calls from bb (8k-ish).

Pot (2175)
Flop
 Kd 5d 8s
Villain Checks, Leo cbets 725, I fold, Villain craises to 1550, Leo takes some time and calls (playing 3k left).

Pot (5275)
Turn
 4d

Villain bets 1500, Leo takes some time and shoves for 3175..... Villain takes 10 seconds and with a stack of 5k left says "I guess I'm pot committed".... and calls
We see Leo has the respectable  Kh Js...
And Villain has.... the old  Th 7d - Errr excuse me WTF???
At this Leo says "what are you doing?" - "don't even dare dealer...."

Pot (11625)
River
 Td

For a miracle rivered flush... Leo does not take it with class and goes abso-f**king mental!  Jesting - "I ought to glass him, what a ****ing joke!"
As I do my best to calm him down and try to tell him to take it with class, just laugh it up... etc... This does not work.

I can't help but laugh at the whole situation as the Villlain tries to justify it with some ridiculous comments.. And I tell him "well they're definitely easier to get off of you."

Anyways, we end up going busto in this tournament a level or two later when we snap call our  Ks Kh aipf vs same Villain who has open shoved 30bb's with the old  Ad Qh and we joke about how this might run out.  The rest of the table don't look too happy that I'm about to get a sexy old double up...
Until the board runs out:-
 Qd Th 2s Aspades 8d

c'est la vie, nvm.


Aspers £1/1 game Sat night
Then we get on the cash table and decide to fire up a little £125 bullet and give some live a go... Cliffs
- First hand have our flopped two pair counterfeit so that A high wins the first £60 pot

- Second hand have our Tptk hand counterfeit when 2nd pair, trips up on river and we check fold

- Make a creative check shove with  6h 6s after opening utg and seeing a 5 way flop of 852 we are up to £95.

- get slow rolled when aipf with  9s 9c vs a tilted maniac who shoves over our £10 open for £60 - he shows  Aspades and I say "you'll need to hit unless you have two of those..." he says nothing until the river and tables  Aspades Ad.... wpwpwp sir, nh, don't trip over the stairs and break your jaw on the way out much.

- then he calls our creative 4 way 2 street float and river bluff when the flush and straight both come in.... >>>>>  with bottom pair.... nice call sir!

[X] Still couldn't win in a super fishy live £1/1 game.
[X] Will win one day...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on February 21, 2012, 01:25:02 AM
don't bother trying to help people who don't wanna be helped ldo. discussing hands with your peers and improving together is immensely important so if they're not interested in that then that's their choice.

still trying the old multiway pot/double float/river bluffs eh? a very underused tactic at £1/1 it's a wonder more people don't try this sort of stuff...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 21, 2012, 01:36:30 AM
don't bother trying to help people who don't wanna be helped ldo. discussing hands with your peers and improving together is immensely important so if they're not interested in that then that's their choice.

still trying the old multiway pot/double float/river bluffs eh? a very underused tactic at £1/1 it's a wonder more people don't try this sort of stuff...

No, I rarely do this kind of thing any more.. but when somone who's heavily tilting donks £5 into 22 from sb on an 884 flop... call me crazy for thinking they have a 4 almost always!  This dude would have crain with an 8 im 100%... I was right, and when he cc the straightening turn I had all the intention of giving up if the river bricked.. but the perfect river fell and I was sure he had bottom pair.  So with my good line, image and hand reading I went with the bluff!

He sigh called and the whole table sigh'd at my obvious double up... for me to say K high and he chuckled like a boy and turned over the 4.
Then I announce, two cards to win... and he then gets the 10 over. WP sir..... very WP!  Next time this slow rolling **** ******** * ** * * * ****** is in a pot with me im just going to announce the 'nuts' every hand until he gets fed up mucking his better hands.  First time i've felt like this in poker but the SR was so gross.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 21, 2012, 01:38:18 AM
Too harsh???


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on February 21, 2012, 03:17:27 AM
don't bother trying to help people who don't wanna be helped ldo. discussing hands with your peers and improving together is immensely important so if they're not interested in that then that's their choice.

still trying the old multiway pot/double float/river bluffs eh? a very underused tactic at £1/1 it's a wonder more people don't try this sort of stuff...

No, I rarely do this kind of thing any more..

Not since that  8c 5h hand a few days ago. I don't know anyone who profitably makes these regular floats and/or 'creative' bluff lines. Just stop them all together for a period of time imo... see how it effects your results.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 21, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
You have to realise that this is two occurrences in the space of 4days and about 1200 hands. This is a tiny % compared to in the past.

Further reduction is happenning.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Leatherman on February 22, 2012, 12:38:11 AM
 ;tightend;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 22, 2012, 01:05:10 AM
;tightend;

Ty Leatherman.... he's not repping much and can't take the risk @ that stage of the tournament..


Todays Grind
We played a bunch of satellites today..

DTD 'minis'
nothing... no feeder seats.

DTD mains -
DTD150
- got 1 of the 2 seats on offer..

DTD250
- misclicked while going to the toilet.
- misclick raised 1/3 stack off with  9d Td then folded on  8d 8s 2h when sb open shoved.
- misclicked next hand folding QQ.
- then went out couple of levels later.. shoving  Ad 4d 13bb's into bb's KK.

DTD500
- got 1 of the 2 seats on offer..
- played really good the whole way through, picking spots very well and not getting too out of line
- made awesome read and move 3 handed to take CL then bossed it, got A8 vs Q8 aipf n he binks a Q... then bossed some more till i won! :P



big day really.. nother £550 in the bank! + dtd150 seat. :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 25, 2012, 12:38:30 AM
So, a quick update..

Thursday 23rd Feb
We played all three DTD satellites and managed to 'do' the following

DTD150
CL the whole way and ran AJ into AQ 4 handed... sigh  - only 2 seats on offer... [ ] We hit a J.

DTD250
We played really well, CL or close most of the way.. then made a bad call 8 handed with  Ahrt Kh vs Sunny Mistri's UTG shove with  8c 8s and Caroline Cougars reshove in SB with  9d 9c. Down to half our stack and then shortstack shoved A5s into 99, despite flopping a 5 and turning a flush draw we bricked the river!

DTD500
Made a mistake vs Ceri Rees where he made a shove over my turn cbet with  6d 6s on  Ahrt Ts 6h 8h, we called with  Ac Jh. gg us.


Friday 24th Feb
DTD250 - decided I will only play the 'mega sats' unless i satellite into it.. when there is only 2 seats its hard to ride the variance when 4/5handed.
But as it was a mega sat, we managed to get a seat! CL or 2nd most of the way and managed to wangle our way through to a seat with a massive CL then we called aipf with AKo vs btn shove of 20bb's and he has AQo.... we hold and tyvm.


Charlene (gf) is up so we're going to be chilling tomorrow and I'll bank the seat.

GL all blondes in the DTD250 tomorrow, today.... !


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 25, 2012, 01:31:47 AM
you know, you don't have to win EVERY pot you play :D

props for trying though


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 25, 2012, 01:59:26 AM
you know, you don't have to win EVERY pot you play :D

props for trying though

When I saw the potripper videos I literally went off on one for about 3 weeks trying to win EVERY pot because you 'can' if you know how..... :D

Doing well on the sat's front though Dave, hope PLO is being kind.  I'll be heading over to your diary tomorrow! :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 26, 2012, 02:11:46 PM
Hey everybody, just chilling at the moment.. awaiting the 1st and looking forward to beginning to work with Pleno.

Going to get some roast dinner at a pub lunch thingy - nom nom nom! then come back for a 'regular' sunday DTD mega sat grind!!! Get us another dtd150 + 500 seat pls!

Back in a bit..
Anyone that knows a little about computers or is a grinder and has anything specific in their grinding PC setup, please head over to here and give me your advice, tips, ideas that work for you - http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56866.0


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 27, 2012, 12:18:26 AM
Todays DTD satellite grind
One big SIGH!!!...

We registered for all the evening mega sats as usual to make sure that we don't forget to.

Then play a couple of mini sat's around 4-ish while Charlene isn't feeling too good.  Get a seat into the Devilfish 9pm thingy.. DTD are valuing each seat @ £1200 in order to freeroll the Devilfish, Rob Yong and Simon Trumper into a SNG where 8 players play a turbo and have a 5,2 and £1k prizes up for grabs.  So it could be fun and obv well worth £25 to get into it for a shot at the £5k prize.

Think we got a seat into the DTD150 Mega sat that has 10 seats gtd and was looking forward to that tournament as I've been performing well in it, but with very few runners it 'magically' had technical problems around 1hr before it was due to start and then changed to a normal 1seat gtd DTD150 satellite.  A little bit annoyed by this as I can't see how this can be a technical issue from what I understand of servers, software and client programming.  However obviously I could be completely wrong and apologise if this was truely the case, seemed a little co-incidental to me.


DTD Bust the Devilfish
Got an instant double up a few hands in where some guy goes mental wanting to get his whole stack in on  Kd 7d 9h  4c with  Ks Jh vs my  Kh 7c.  GG him and we start with a double stack. tyty.

Few levels later we're still top 3 as we have been all the way when we reluctantly get it in on a Th 9d 8h board with  8s 8d vs obv  Jd Qh.  That takes us back into the
pack and we carry on playing solid until we bust in a pretty standard fashion we ran  Ac 8c into  Ad Kh and couldnt find some help.


DTD500 Mega Sat
Now this has been our bread and butter over the last few weeks and we will be grinding these every night this wk as our record in them is pretty awesome (something like 6 seats from 8 tries).
We play really solid poker until it gets short and then play pretty good short stack poker, reshoving in good spots, inducing bluffs and shoves from certain people and generally playing pretty tight.
Same same today, although we're pretty card dead the entire time and make one mistake where we peel a min 3bt with  2s 2h, call a cbet on a good board and it runs out really well for our hand to be good, we call his small cbet and small river bet and are shown the  Ac Ahrt, wp sir.
Get back on the horse and play really well for the rest, getting back into the pack and after reshoving twice over his opens we get into a pretty interesting flip where 'Elderdan' decides to raise, call-off  Ahrt 7h CO vs BTN.. we have  6s 6d and hold for a nicely timed double up! ty sir

This battle is to be our downfall....
We are 7/14 and by no means have a seat locked up when Elderdan decides to shove CO for around 12bb's... we find  Ahrt Ts and instantly know we're ahead.  But looking at the stack sizes and how our 22bb stack is not locked for a seat we decide this is too good an opportunity to get another double up and almsot certainly lock up a seat.

We call and we're up against the mighty  6d 9d.. so we just have to HOLD!
Flop 
Jh 7c 8h    (thats a ridiculous flop for him and he's still at like 36% now)
Turn
6h   (booom... there goes my seat. - oh well we've got a few free hands to shove)
River
Meh... don't even remember! dont care, it wasn't a 9 or A. :P

We shove  Ad x next hand and it gets through and then a few hands later the BTN limps into our BB and he completes the SB (this is so bad on so many levels!) and we find the old  Jc 2s.  This isn't the best spot but I think that Elderdan is weak enough that he's completing any SC, probably any suited hand and raising all 'short stack premiums' so despite knowing that he can't be calling enough I think maybe he might call here more than he should (even though it would be for 60% of his stack).

We ship and the BTN predictably folds and Elderdan snaps with the mighty  Ac 6c.  I know this is a possibility but even if he has a hand like this he shouldn't be 'trapping' with it, imo this is a terrible play that puts him maybe 60/40 but he is just risking too much.

No pairs for us and we go out 13th with 10 getting a seat.

I don't love the  Ahrt Ts call but i think when i haven't got a seat locked up and I have 10bb's if i lose and the CO next hand its too good a spot to 'lock a seat'.  But the  Jc 2s isn't a great spot either, probably better to just check, find a pair and then ship it in.  Shame we couldnt get another £550 tonight but we will be back every night this week and today we were card dead the entire time and still came 13th, so I'm really confident I can win 3 or 4 more seats this week!

[X] Win 3 more seats and I'm buying the Super Grind PC this wk!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on February 27, 2012, 12:32:00 AM
 Jc  2s move is incredible. When will that badboy do a win?!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 27, 2012, 01:09:02 AM
Jc  2s move is incredible. When will that badboy do a win?!

gotta be due a win surely?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 27, 2012, 08:36:42 AM
Jc  2s move is incredible. When will that badboy do a win?!

gotta be due a win surely?

Think poker must be rigged if i didn't win here..

clearly though  Jc 2s vs  Ac 6c/ Ad Qh is definitely going to win its next all in! (its 30% and we lost the last two... so now has to win, maths says so)


I guess its probably a mistake but when you have an M of 4 and shove over two limpers it can't ever be a big mistake.  Back on my crazy satelite run tonight!  Just having Bacon and Egg sandwhich cooked by my lovely Charlene. :D
nom nom nommmmmm!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on February 27, 2012, 10:14:57 AM
is Elder Dan, Dan Elder?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 27, 2012, 09:45:27 PM
is Elder Dan, Dan Elder?

No idea mate..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 28, 2012, 12:20:46 AM
Life News
Went to the Gym with my bro alex and we worked ourselves pretty hard! The abdominal exercises were killer and at one point I'm pretty sure my stomach muscles gave up and I was flailing around the floor like a beached whale!

Alex and I weighed ourselves for the first time in our few months of going to the gym -
Alex Is preparing for some mixed martial arts (MMA) 'grappling' fights in a few months time he needs to be a certain weight, while getting fitter and stronger.
John I am just trying to regain my previous levels of fitness and tone up a bit on the way.. well - I've put on 5kg's and I'm now a few sugar cubes away from the 100kg mark.  This is pretty annoying news but it is in reflection of our workout which is rather freeweight and upper body heavy.  I know the extra muscle will burn the fat I have quicker as muscle requires more calories to maintain itself, but its still annoying to go up in weight when I'm working so hard to get 'fit' (silly mind games I know).

Felt so good after the gym though, and coming home to a Mexican flavored Chicken breast with rice stuffed peppers was amazing! Well played Charlene!


Todays Sat Grind

DTD500 mini satellite
We bust this while still 9 handed but a good few levels in when we jammed 12bb's with  Kh 9s into the BB's  Ac 7c.

DTD500 Mega satellite
We played really solid throughout, unfortunately failing to get paid on our only two good starting hands of AA and QQ which mean we awaited the 15-20bb stage and did our usual reshove/ shove/ fold game.  Unfortunately we got all the way to the final 16 as usual but then ran 3h 3s and 17k @ 1/2k into the  Qd Qc of another player and GG that's us in 15th... sigh! We really don't need a lot of rungood in these, just to get paid on one of the hands we wait so patiently for and then watch everyone bust themselves until we're in the money.

Nevermind.  4 more left this week! Lets get a couple!

Bust the Devilfish satellite
This one was fun and again we played very solid, only 3 hands until the blinds were at 400/800 or something.
Although this is decieving you into thinking I didn't do anything 'creative'... the first hand I played was the old  Kh Qh and bb vs utg we craised a  8s 9c 4h flop and then when he 'clicked it back' we shoved our two overs and bkdrfd knowing that he has to fold all of his air and it makes no sense for him to have AA/ KK here and 'click' our CR.. so imo he always has  9s Ad/ Th Td/ similar weak 1pair holding.  Name was JGxxx and I'm wondering if this was Mr Jonathan Gill of DTD fame...???

Either way he decides to snap with 10's when we shove for 10k over his 3.1k 3bt.  I'm not sure what JG thinks we have here.. but I don't think its the best call tbh.  Its a rainbow board with only 67 or J10 as draws, the latter with one over and oesd.  All other hands I do this will will be 88/99/44/ 98 or JJ+ and vs a UTG raise I could even have the big pairs as people fold to often to 3bts in these early stages. Doesn't matter as we river a Q and gg sir whoever you are.
(btw this is still in the 're-entry' part of the tournament and this is the only reason for our slightly adventurous play)

Then we play really solid and tight for the rest as we have a top2 stack and the moneys all up top.  We play pretty good throughout the rest, getting Chinese Frankie to bluff off half his stack when we cbet then cc, cc 2nd pair no kicker... tyvm Frankie.

And finally we get down to the last 14 or something and we overshove 33bb's Ad Kh over a UTG raise in order to look weak and we get what we want when   Aspades Qd snaps us off for 90% his stack and then flops a Q and rivers the nut flush.  GG, wp, nh, sigh sirrr.......

This would have given us a top2 stack and a monstrous chip lead with a really good shot at running for a seat into this Devilfish-y thing. But next time I guess.



Two days till the cash deal starts with Pleno, would be nice to start it freerolling my grind PC from this weeks DTD500 satellites.  Two more seats please!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Rivertony on February 28, 2012, 02:37:35 AM
GL for rest of week with the DTD seats, very good read this thread!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on February 28, 2012, 11:46:49 PM
GL for rest of week with the DTD seats, very good read this thread!

Thanks fella.

Come in after work today to find Charlene listening to Classic FM and after yesterday when she cleaned up around the flat and did a whole bunch of little nice 'in the flat' things she even volunteered to go and get tonights dinner!  All was going well until she suggested we keep the Classic FM on as I might become more like Lex Gouldhuis and win for once - the absolute cheek!


Today's Satellite grind
So today was an example of why poker is a great game, and why 'they' play it.

We could not win today, no matter what we did.  Didn't even make any mistakes after all the losing, just lost some more instead. Morale was high the entire time and all my readings of peoples blogs (Alex, Lil'D, Mondatoo, etc etc) just help me through every silly hand.

The only thing that gets to me is when a player does something really strange with little or no reasoning or logic and just happens upon the best hand - like he found it while walking through the forest and it glinted at him from under a bear trap... but somehow the hunter was busy having a piss for those 10 seconds and so our 'hero' manages to pick it up and walk off despite the ignorance of his actions and the preparation of the hunter.

 #definitelylovethegame

DTD Mini Sat's

DTD500 £20
We played 3 of these today and lost in a varying but similar fashion
-  Qs Jc vs  9d 6h aipf.
-  Aspades 8c vs  5d 5h (bvb) aipf, then next hand Kc Jh vs 8d 4c aipf.
-  Kh Qc vs  Ad Tc aipf, then next hand  Ahrt Jh vs  Aspades 9d aipf.

DTD GP Sat
- 66 (shoved) vs AK (raise, call) vs Q10 (call, call- vwp!)
- A10 vs 7c 8c aipf (limp called 14bb's) - 96x 8 x

DTD Devilfish Sat
- This recreational player who I have reads on as 'erratic' is sat to my left and this happens.

I raise and he decides to 3bt my UTG+1 raise, I'm pretty sure he's full of it, so I 4bt small in order to snap him off with  7d 7s.
He flats the 4bt with about 2:1 pot to stack ratio.

Pot (8500)
Flop
Qs 9d Qc
I decide to check call as I expect him to bet his bluffs.  He check's back which is weird but I'm not going to give up if the turn bricks

Turn
 8h
This is a brick and I decide to just take the pot here, so I set him in for 7k, he snaps with the mighty Qh 9c. Vnh sir, vwp, please come again soon!

River
Meh, who cares. 

We decide to reload as there are a limited number of Devilfish Sat's and the £25 is well worth it.  We play really solid for another few levels and then get a gift of a double up, I can't even remember what it was as it was absolutely horrendous.  All is going good right up until we get to the final two tables where we've managed to nurse our 18bb's along for a while.  We shove HJ with the stupendous  Kc Jc and run head straight into 8bb's with   Aspades Qh, flop is K high and then the river brings his A (can't even win when behind!).

Grind our 10bb's out for another few orbits then get in  9d 9c vs the old Ahrt Ks
[X] We made a set of 9's
[  ] We won the hand
[X] He made a straight




Today -
[X] Won a hand
[X] Lost a couple of hands
[X] Can't wait for tomorrows grind
[  ] Morale low
[X] Early night with the lady - boom boom boom let me hear ya say 'waaayyyy ooooh'.
[X] Like checkboxes
[-] Grind PC by months end...... jury is out.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 01, 2012, 12:29:44 AM
Life Things
Gym went well today, been working on the old freeweights as its good for the body and I'm looking forward to the muscle>fat issue resolving itself as the muscle should require more calories and therefore eat the fat.

We added some more abbs exercises and that hurts a tonne!

Tonights DTD grind
DTD500 £20 mini sat
Busted early, nothing special.

DTD500 Mega Sat
JUST BUSTED ON THE DIRECT BUBBLE WITH 56k, avg is 58k with 3x <26k stacks..... ouch.     ;frustrated; ;grr; :redcard: ;nemesis; ;marks; ;madasahatstand; ;booboo;

"misssafe" is clearly a beginner player and has been opening a lot, 'he' opened a level or so ago and we 3bt shoved 22bb's with AJo... he tanked all the way down with A10o apparently. 

Misssafe opens and we find AKo, decide to 3bt shove..... I really don't know why when we have a seat locked up, such a ridiculous rookie mistake.
He snaps with 10's and holds to nock us out.

"oh john.... oh dear john.......... - sighhhhhhh"

So this week thats:
- 13th for direct bubble £40.... wp sir
- 13th for 3 off
- and 16th for 6 off.... nevermind.

DTD Devilfish Sat
Can't remember but think I played pretty good apart from one mistake where I bet, called a river with top two pair after playing  Ac Kc trappy preflop on a
Ad 3s Qh 3c Ks board - mistake i think.  Guy had K3, GG to 1/2 our stack.

Then we get like 9bb's in with  7d 8d and get called by  Aspades Jc and can't get there...




Cliffs
So all in all, morale was very high after the gym, couldn't win for a while and busted the Feeder and the Devilfish sat.  Then make a super deep run and direct bubble with AK vs 10's when there were 3x <26k stacks left @ 1500/3000 when we make an insane ICM shove.

So disappointed in myself right now, a £560 mistake for no reason whatsoever... then get rubz from the guy with 10's "I TOLD HIM...." - whatever mate.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 01, 2012, 01:42:49 AM
Misssafe opens and we find AKo, decide to 3bt shove..... I really don't know why when we have a seat locked up, such a ridiculous rookie mistake.
He snaps with 10's and holds to nock us out.

wow. his call is pretty bad. your shove is silly tho, just fold


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: AlexMartin on March 01, 2012, 02:11:15 AM
be good to meet you, CP is a mutual freind, although i think he plays online poker like a grandma.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 01, 2012, 10:02:26 AM
Woop @ Alex Martin ITT....

The awkward moment when Alex realises we've already met... Over a beer at GUKPT Cov when we went to check out his and AR's pitchside room and I went down onto the Coventry pitch for a wander about.

:D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: celtic on March 01, 2012, 10:23:36 AM
Alex is normally smashed when he is in a casino, he can barely remember his own name, let alone someone else's.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 01, 2012, 10:49:43 AM
[ ] Alex was sober the entire time..

Now we just need the other heavy hitting blonde's ITT then I'll have 'made it'.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on March 01, 2012, 11:15:12 AM
on skype till 7 mate


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Eso Kral on March 01, 2012, 11:24:40 AM
GL with your new venture with BITB starting today mate!!!
<3 BITB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 02, 2012, 01:05:04 AM
GL with your new venture with BITB starting today mate!!!
<3 BITB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We've officially started the staking by booking a +$ session! - winnnnar!

Today we downloaded the WPT software, sorted our Poker strategy account (for the bonuses) and then sent the money across!
Load up the tables and get going, I'm not sure about table selection at 25nl.. I expect to be able to beat all the regs fairly quickly so I'm not sure I should bother too much with table selection?? wwud?

We're playing 4 tables at a time and once we took 30mins to sort out all the settings we dont like - the bings, bongs, bleeps and 'congratulations you won a hand' rubbish we then could actually play a hand.

First hand we've accidentally posted utg and we're dealt the mighty  7d 2s.... well we're not losing our first staked hand! so lets put a raise in then... flop is 566 and we cr for the win! :P                                                                            ;starwars;                                                                     (any excuse)
(pleno asked me 5 mins later how it was going and i think he both loved and loathed this hand!)



WPT Cash Grind

Hands - 1096
Net won - $20.08
VPIP - 27.3                 (bit loose but not too bad)
PFR - 22.0                  (about right for that VPIP)
3bt - 6.5%                 (probably want it a little higher, a lot of people fold or call too much so having a wider range for both is good)
WTSD% - 33.7           (little high..)
W$SD% - 44.8           (not too bad, little higher would be nice... however I do vbet pretty thin compared to other regs, and I bluff moooar!)
Agg - 1.3


We should have won around $90-110 I think.  There were a couple of genuine 'coolers' - top 2p twice on flushing boards vs flush obv. sigh.
But the majority of our 'not won enough' was actually due to a couple of hero calls and two badly timed and run out bluffs.  Not entirely sure why this happened, I think the hero calls were because people are more aggy on this site than 10nl on stars and I attributed that to them being 'better'..... turns out not the case.  ;frustrated;
[X] 1x K high calldown on  8h 4h 4d Jd 3c - b, b, shove...  ;tracet;
[X] 1x AQ high calldown on   Kc 6h 6c 8s 3c - b, b, shove... :redcard:
[X] 1x AK win vs 10's on J high board....  -  9c 9d 9h 9s Jc - Wiiiiiiiiiiiii!   ;nana;

DTD Satellites
DTD500 mini sat
We played two of these
- 3rd with two prizes when we shoved K9 into A5 CL who called it off instead of blind off the shortie... sigh! we flop a 9 and he rivers his A. boooo!
- Won it when we genuinely ran really well in the mid-late stages and just had lots of hands... shoving all of them and people were calling off dominated a lot. :D
 
DTD500 Sat
- played uber solid and as usual people don't notice.
- played 4 hands -  Ad Aspades,  Aspades Ahrt,  Aspades Js,  Ad Jd
- no action on the AA's
- Aspades Js lost to smashedagain's  Qc Jh....  Qs high flop.
- Ad Jd lost to 8c 8h aipf, needed a flip... nvm (turns out that despite having a VPIP of 5% - people can't limp fold a pair vs me! lolz...


Really looking forward to my next session, felt like I played quite comfortable for my first time staked.  Didn't feel different, but I must admit the idea of posting on here and explaining to Pleno why we called with K high for stacks was a little embarassin...

 ;oopsy; ;angel; ;gobsmacked;




Figured his little jordie brain might actually kablamooo!    ;grr; ;smackedbottom; ;izimbra;




Really want to take tomorrow 'off' work and just sleep until its time to grind!  And definitely getting a new PC! soooooon!




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Poker_Monkey on March 02, 2012, 01:36:45 AM
Good work on the blog Jhon but pls stop using the thrid party when your talking about your self it's tilting me m8

Anyway keep up the good work

Ady


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on March 02, 2012, 02:11:22 AM
Lol fml. The games up.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 02, 2012, 02:14:55 AM
So In my first attempt to make this more than just poker, and potentially bring in the more 'mature' crowd... here are a couple of interesting pictures from my previous travels around the world....

Name these places/ attractions if you please?!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Poker_Monkey on March 02, 2012, 02:21:54 AM
I'm guessing the 4th one is in a long tunel somewere


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 02, 2012, 08:41:44 AM
Do you mean the 5th?
Im not sure that counts as a guess..... :P

There are prizes!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on March 02, 2012, 10:27:16 AM
Good start mate, love how enthusiastic you are and you a bundle of new energy, sorry if at the moment it seems like I cba, I'm just genuinely ridicuously busy. Parents leave on 10th and will be free from then on will have more spare time.

Regarding the AQ/K high calls, they are obviously atrocious, you just don't need to be getting into these kind of situations mate. You are obviously a very good player fundamentally but have a little bit of an ego problem, I have exactly the same problem though mate so hopefully can help you out from past experience.

What you need to work on is value betting, betting thinly, when to take different bet sizings and when to take different lines, i.e when to bet, bet, check, when to bet, check, bet and when to, check check bet. I will hopefully be able to help you out with this but playing strictly 4 tables initially will help you out ALOT because you will be focusing on the tables and constantly asking yourself WHY am I betting, WHY am I betting this much, WHAT will I do on X, Y and Z turn etc.

Anyway enjoy DTD bro.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: JK on March 02, 2012, 10:34:44 AM
Will be back playings for BITB too as of next week, so im sure we'll get alot more aquainted in the.stable! Will start reading this alot more for sure


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 02, 2012, 06:07:15 PM
I'm trying to think if i've ever actually seen Alex Martin sober...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 02, 2012, 06:57:41 PM
Nobody wants to guess at any of the pictuers????? not even guess?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 02, 2012, 08:42:25 PM
Afghanistan
Zambia or Gambia
Port Elizabeth SA
Peru
Inside Picture 4


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: KarmaDope on March 02, 2012, 11:03:13 PM
Table selection a definite yes IMO - lot of tables have 5/6 regs on and are beatable, but tighter.

I would start with trying to get on highest % players to flop.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 03, 2012, 12:40:03 AM
Table selection a definite yes IMO - lot of tables have 5/6 regs on and are beatable, but tighter.

I would start with trying to get on highest % players to flop.

But the whole point is i'm going to be playing the regs on multiple tables a lot, so I don't mind beating up on them.  And taking unconventional lines and showing up with bluffs/ strangely played hands I should be able to get some $$ off them by getting some action! (hopefully)

Would anyone else really table select at this level?  What kind of things would you look for?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 03, 2012, 12:42:24 AM
Afghanistan
Zambia or Gambia
Port Elizabeth SA
Peru
Inside Picture 4


One of these is correct.

I won't say which till we have a few good guesses.

I expect you all to be able to guess 3 of them, two will be pretty hard.  One is even very near to a 'blonde'!



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 03, 2012, 01:10:06 AM
WPT 6max Cash Grind
So, we played our second session today, winning again.. however we were a little up n down.. I need to have a look at it as we only won the same as yesteday $20.  But we did attempt a couple of big bluffs in 'nice' spots I think and ran into the nuts - [ ] went well.

Even had a little hand heater which was fun but frustrating when you're getting QQ or AA every other hand and getting no action... 2 4bt's in 2 consecutive hands and no one plays back at us, or a few hands later when we 3bt AA's!!!!!!!!!!  ARGH!

One of the biggest things I've noticed is that pairs are so hard to get paid on oop!  Really, really hard! unless you just super cooler someone - all that BS about 'implied odds' is so villain dependant!

WPT Cash Grind
Hands - 1632
Net won - $19.01
VPIP - 26.6                 
PFR - 21.3                 
3bt - 7.8%                 (actively tried to get it higher today..)
WTSD% -    27.7        (purrrrfect)
W$SD% - 58.0           (coupled with my NSD winnings and bluff potential this is banging! Just need those $50 from the bluffs back pls..???)
Agg - 1.77



DTD500 Satellite Grind

DTD500 mini sat

played two..
- can't remember, pretty standard i think.. got 4bb's in with K9 or something
- similar.. think I went out dominated when I had <10bb's.

DTD500 Mega Sat
Ran pretty dead for a LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG time.. but as usual the blinds and antes are so small it doesnt matter!

- As usual we play like 3 hands for 4 hours then shove expecting someone to fold... As usual they can't despite not realising their hand is pretty shocking.
- Shoved J10o on the button over a MP 2.5x raise for something like 13bb's.
- Got called by AJo pretty quickly, wp sir! fkin ridiculous.... whatever.....  6d 2s Th    OH HELLO DERE!  :hello:  .....brick ......brick
- then play snug again making a few standard shoves with AQ or AK or 66 etc...
- then shove  9d 7c on btn with 15bb's into two shortstacks with like 18 left..... - do they know they should be folding like 95%+ here...?
- snaps with  Ad 5s..... wp sir.... nh.... ur a geeeeeniass!     4c 8s 9h   JUSTICE!!!!! Take ur sob story elsewhere please sir.   .... brick    ...... brick

[X] Now properly in it and basically a seat is mine to lose
[X] 2x AKs 1x 66 and 1x AQo in one orbit! - Super heater announced!  (open shove every one and 'they' fold every time - how do they know??)


We get right down to the 11th bubble and im determined to not bubble this one.. literally telling Charlene I'm going to the toilet and to 'fold' me every hand..

Come back and we have 3x 1bb stacks on the two tables... WTF are they doing?


And see the best thing I've ever seen in a satellite competition unfold, see if you can follow this?? -
  (might not be exact speach but dammed close)
There is somehow the shortstack on our table (Donsirelli) to a flop with Robhino123 despite Don having 4867 left and the pot having 10k+ (limp, check pre i think)

Flop
 Jh 6d 6h
Rob says 'haha' and 'I've got Q9, I'll show you.... then bets 4k
Don says 'serious?' ..... takes ages and calls. (leaving 867 beind into a 20k pot)

Turn
 Ahrt
Don checks
Rob says something... and then checks

River
 8s or similar... either way Q9 is still Q high....


Don checks...
Rob takes his whole clock and some timebank - then bts 4k.
Don takes his whole timebank and eventually calls.


With the mighty mighty  Kd Qc.

Rob shows down  Qd 9s and Don gets a super double up from 1bb to like 6bb's and now BOTH tables go mental with 'collusion' and 'cheating' allogations all over the shop.

I'm busy choking on my own laughter as the other two shorties on the other table double.... Eventually we lose one and we're home. 




No one seemed happy.


Right, So I'm off out to try and find a place open to go for a drink at this time in MK before getting to bed for tomorrows comp!  See you all at DTD! Blonde's do a W!


peace out x



PS. disappointed in Tkay, RD and the other 'uber blondes' with the lack of cultured discussion today!  Post moarrrrr pls..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 03, 2012, 04:01:56 AM
Might have just whored myself on both Tk's and RD's blogs... well i went 'out' at 0130am... and necked a few drinks quickly, even going past the garage on the way home for some more Bulmers! nvm!

Good luck to all blonde's in todays £500... hopefully i get some chips from all at my tables and finish with a decent stack for day2 - yes please! :P



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tikay on March 03, 2012, 05:56:30 AM

The "tunnel" photo  - is it in - literally - The Rock of Gibralter?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 03, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
New Guess
4th One is Lubaantun and the Crystal Skull?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 03, 2012, 11:03:05 AM
New Guess
4th One is Lubaantun and the Crystal Skull?

I like the guess... very interesting.  I just spent 10 mins going through wiki to find out what Lubaantun is.  Learning ITT.



Clues.....

1.  Current zone of conflict
2. This photo is taken right next to a famous water source
3. A blonde who posts regularly (5000+) lives here..
4. The tomb of someone very unexpected, but you all know of this ruler!
5. This tunnel is around 1m high and 40-60cm wide...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 03, 2012, 11:04:22 AM
Gilbrator Airport is 3rd Not PE


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Eso Kral on March 03, 2012, 11:21:51 AM
Is the 5th one, one of the holes I have dug myself in and out of over time?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 03, 2012, 01:41:54 PM
Gilbrator Airport is 3rd Not PE

Correct, this is taken from the rock of Gib looking at one of the shortest runways in the world, I understand you actually have to take a special pilots course to be allowed to land on Gib - think LaPaz is the other super short one.

Unfortunately one of the easier ones.... Let's get the rest!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 03, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
Struggling with the Cone Shaped Tomb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 03, 2012, 02:06:39 PM
Struggling with the Cone Shaped Tomb

It's a really tough one tbh.. Not an everyday place or site, but it is a world famous leader.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 03, 2012, 10:29:03 PM
Think i played pretty good today, definitely a little passive but vs fish thats not a horrible plan....


Had lost of big hands n even had KK vs AA but lost 12bb's! = live reads ftw!


trip report to follow.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 03, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
Sweepstake?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 04, 2012, 09:56:54 PM
The DTD500 Mega Sat (10 Seats GTD) isn't on again... ON A SUNDAY???????

What is going on please???
http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/500-deepstack

Am I reading this incorrectly or does it say Sundays and Monday- Fri before event?

Sunday Roast
Whatever... Went to my parents today for a sunday roast and it was delicious.  Don't think I spend enough time with my parents really, bit of a shame but its something that despite seeming so easy (they live 1 mile away) somehow becomes so difficult when our 'schedules' are so different.  
Had a great post dinner conversation that started with me listening to my mum explain about her writing course she's taking at the moment for a bit of fun.  She told us all (dad, brother, Charlene and I) that she had to write some fiction.  So she handed me the laptop to read her work and the first word that I saw in the middle of the page was
"pulsating"...

Mum's porn
This was scary and obviously not something I expected to read... within two lines I realised this 'fiction piece' was slightly adult.  Now starting to feel a little strange about the whole thing but intrigued as to what I was about to read I decided to go into the kitchen away from everyone else to try and read it objectively.

The story was to be based on a song and she chose the Dirty Dancing "I've had the time of my life" song.  Which translated to a story about a meeting in a bar and the subsequent dance the couple have on the dance floor.......In Newcastle! ........................... hmmmmmmmm......


I don't really know how to say this but if I didn't know that my mum had written it then i think it would have had the 'desired' effect on me, however that block was in place and instead I returned to the sitting room and told Charlene to go in and read it herself.  She 'squealed' at a couple of the phrases and then returned with us both commending my mum on her skills as the story was very well written, paced, worded and thought out, 590 words well spent, one son truely scarred.

Poker Diary
Then I spent some time explaining about the poker deal with Pleno and why I think I have it, and what I hope to achieve from it.  Including this diary and then some time helping her understand the terms and forum phrases we all so commonly use - tbh, imo, aipf, fml, fmfmfmfl, etc.... :D

It took a long time and poor her she listened and asked questions about all of it.  She was clearly confused, bored and upset at some of my confessions:
- playing a bent £3/6 game in Uganda
- losing £000's in the first few years when my ego blinded my ambition and progress
- playing E100 rebuy's in Brussels and 'bubbling' both.... she seemed so confused I couldn't "wait one more place" - lolz mum, just that simple innit.
- etc... there's some more unfortunately

However I hope she realises that this kind of thing being here and open and IF I use this diary correctly and efficiently that this can be the most powerful tool in my poker development by a long long long lon..........g way.

Fitness discussion and Ab rollers!
If you don't know what an Ab roller is, watch the video below.... I tried to do a knee one and managed to get close but not back up again! :)
Do a couple of wide grip chinups on his bar in the conservatory and then we swiftly move on to below - which lasts about 4 hours...!


Zionist societies and Communism and Capitalism and my lovely little brother!

So this is one of the best family conversations we've ever had!  I can't remember how it got started but it involved in lots of circles the discussion of British national Immigration/ Benefit and Support policies; Zionistic societies; Communism vs Capitalism and Jeremy Clarkson (why is he always in these kinda things>?)

So we were trying to work out why some very high % of sport relief went abroad when the UK today needs so much help at home (bear with me).  My idealistic little brother is a trainee accountant doing his Grade 4 and working and at 17 he obviously "knows how to solve the major problems in the UK and world, but no one listens to us kids"  - AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

We then go round about a bit with him pointing out that it is possible but that we would need a 'pure' society with no greed, gluttony or basically any sins... and I point out that eventually someone would come up with the idea for them, and when that happens the game is over!

A bit of banter back and forth.. but it was a really good conversation with us eventually nominating a 'speaking object' you had to have in order to promote better listening to each other, this worked well (despite being sad that its needed) and we all really enjoyed the different viewpoints of myself (mid 20's fairly open minded) my dad (late 40's technical engineer/ supervisor and scottish groaner) and my younger brother (17 and training to be an accountant, very optimistic and naive imo but so full of hope... wp sir).

BEST GROWNUP immediate FAMILY SUNDAY EVER!


Now that I'm finished... woah that was another long one... I do pity my readers sometimes but well played for making it this far!

We're now off to sweat our 5% of Tom Langley in the DTD500 deepstack - with 16 left we're CL with 30bb's! (Tom changed our % from 10 to 5 pre tournament - fmfmfmfmfl! musta known innit = live pokerz rigged!)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on March 05, 2012, 01:48:33 AM
Rob has new plans for the deepstack sats. Cant get on the site atm but biggest change was now 50 buy in not 100


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 07, 2012, 03:38:50 PM
Just a quick one to say im chilling on the sofa with Charlene before I go away with work for a couple of weeks.

Im not allowed to say where until after I come back, but its not one of the top holiday destinations that's for sure.

Sigh @ only one person guessing my photos.. Thought they might help the blog get some legs of its own.
Answers.. See if you can put them to the right photo
Kabul
Vietnam
Algeria
Gibraltar
Malawi

Had a small losing session online last night.. Still have a few leaks but plugging them slowly.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 07, 2012, 06:22:15 PM
Tomb of Cleopatra
Cu Chi Tunnels
Wicked Dance by Lake Nyasa


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 07, 2012, 06:23:11 PM
Sounds like you should sent some photos from where you are going over the next 2 weeks


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 07, 2012, 06:24:31 PM
Lack of epic HHs for the fans?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 07, 2012, 06:36:33 PM
I don't think there will be any for 2 weeks, may get hands cut off?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 07, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
I don't think there will be any for 2 weeks, may get hands cut off?
;applause; ;applause; rotflmfao rotflmfao


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on March 07, 2012, 07:08:55 PM
Just a quick one to say im chilling on the sofa with Charlene before I go away with work for a couple of weeks.

Im not allowed to say where until after I come back, but its not one of the top holiday destinations that's for sure.

Sigh @ only one person guessing my photos.. Thought they might help the blog get some legs of its own.
Answers.. See if you can put them to the right photo
Kabul
Vietnam
Algeria
Gibraltar
Malawi

Had a small losing session online last night.. Still have a few leaks but plugging them slowly.
Are you in the S.A.S? Don't worry about people not having a go at the photo's coz we don't  wanna look stupid. Great read.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 07, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Close with the guesses.. Its lake Malawi.. one of the biggest lakes in the world I believe.

 :D Google???

The epic HH's are on the way.. Sent pleno some to review today and he was like - wtf u doing? In all of them.

One of them we peel a min 4bt with 9d Td and then cc ccain on 97xx vs A7, and he says im bad?!
We won innit. :D



So in Heathrow now and we're going to be at least 1hr delayed already, nvm more Wagamama's pleaseeeee!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 07, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
Are you going to Brazil?


I think we met at DTD this weekend. I was donking about in a red had with IS IT on. This the right blog?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on March 07, 2012, 09:25:05 PM
yeh theres lots of mistakes atm and understand that you havnt played much online poker but super important to change your whole approach on poker from  my hand beats some hands in his range pre and position doesnt matter because your getting great odds to thinking about future lines in the hand and how exploitable were going to play vs a dominated range.

Another thing you have to think about is 100 hands is NOT a sample, especially when talking about post flop tendancies. You justified a call earlier with a7o vs a guy because he played straight up post flop and called on turn when you were drawing dead when you had less than 100 hands on him.

Theres alot lot more but #ibelieve, enjoy nigeria mate and catch up soon.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 07, 2012, 09:39:47 PM
oh ffs

I ruled out Nigeria because it was so random, grrrrrrrrrrrr

how do I run so bad in fking flips ffs.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 07, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
Enjoy Nigeria?
Worked with a guy who worked over there, tells me he eat human flesh from a stall over there, sort of belive him
Avoid Poker over there if I was you
Like your Diary
Relate more to Alex's diary - My Cat calling an allin with J8 off (Little One, he's not so little - Vet)
Gl in Nigeria


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 07, 2012, 09:54:48 PM
Sorry he ATE not Eat
Still Disgusting


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 08, 2012, 06:31:59 PM
Wp pleno on putting something in public that was fyi only... sigh! (nvm mate, just not in future pls)

SO... yer I'm in Nigeria... not the best place in the world but not the worst so far - Not in Lagos which is propa bad!
Customs official tried to banter it up with me and screw me over by only giving me 2 weeks on my visa instead of the 3 i asked for - nh him, I have a diplomatic visa so GL them trying to stop me leaving when I feel like.
Few other funny things but nothing major, caused a big hurrah today when i got there because there's not enough Asbestos checks been done so that might be gg to part of the trip. Meh.. 

Are you going to Brazil?
I think we met at DTD this weekend. I was donking about in a red had with IS IT on. This the right blog?
Titty - yer we did mate, thought you played pretty decent, UL with the QQ hand.. obv A10 binks ott. Any chance you remember what you had when you 3bt my utg open? (I had JJ, not sure its going to be easy enough to play that vs you oop when im only like 24-28bb deep).


Well the flesh bit sounds interesting but steak and veg for me!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 08, 2012, 07:47:22 PM
One of them we peel a min 4bt with 9d Td and then cc ccain on 97xx vs A7, and he says im bad?!
We won innit. :D

Step 1) Take Palm,
Step 2) Hold up to face
Step 3) Insert face squarely in palm
Step 4) leave for 90 seconds
Step 5) Remove.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on March 08, 2012, 07:57:29 PM
Do you think Poker in Nigeria may be rigged?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 08, 2012, 10:48:14 PM
One of them we peel a min 4bt with 9d Td and then cc ccain on 97xx vs A7, and he says im bad?!
We won innit. :D

Step 1) Take Palm,
Step 2) Hold up to face
Step 3) Insert face squarely in palm
Step 4) leave for 90 seconds
Step 5) Remove.

Please explain what was wrong with this hand?  I was 3bt him on two tables.. one AKs, the other was this.. he min4bt this one and folded other.  I call due to it being min4bt and i have the motha-f***n  Td 9d biatch!

flop is 9 high and he cbets standard 1/2 pot..dont hate or love it... we'll see a turn pls.
then he snap shoves aiott... timing tell - snapped him off! :D tyty

I'm face palming myself enough at the moment, this is a mini moment of glory - this time 'they' didnt have the AA's!

:D

WPT Cash Grind
Managed to get internet out here and got online... played a little, but struggling to get paid off in lots of spots and feel like the majority of $$ are coming from non-SD bluffs/ semi bluffs atm - sigh!

Lost 2.5bi's today - $60
Lost a little the last two sessions previous so now we're down to $450 from our $500... But tomorrow is another day and we will be fresher and more awake than today (worked yesterday 9-5 then flew to Nigeria at 8, arrived 6am, into work till 4pm then played some 6max cash baby! - felt fine at time tbh but probably wasn't 100% - obv)


Back to it people!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on March 09, 2012, 01:19:52 AM
I was on holiday last year and met some nice Folks one of whom worked in Nigeria in the oil industry he said it was the most  dangerous / unsafe place he had ever been to so be careful mate


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on March 09, 2012, 03:16:50 AM
One of them we peel a min 4bt with 9d Td and then cc ccain on 97xx vs A7, and he says im bad?!
We won innit. :D

Step 1) Take Palm,
Step 2) Hold up to face
Step 3) Insert face squarely in palm
Step 4) leave for 90 seconds
Step 5) Remove.

Please explain what was wrong with this hand?  I was 3bt him on two tables.. one AKs, the other was this.. he min4bt this one and folded other.  I call due to it being min4bt and i have the motha-f***n  Td 9d biatch!

flop is 9 high and he cbets standard 1/2 pot..dont hate or love it... we'll see a turn pls.
then he snap shoves aiott... timing tell - snapped him off! :D tyty

I'm face palming myself enough at the moment, this is a mini moment of glory - this time 'they' didnt have the AA's!


Is this HU?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on March 09, 2012, 09:38:56 AM
I was on holiday last year and met some nice Folks one of whom worked in Nigeria in the oil industry he said it was the most  dangerous / unsafe place he had ever been to so be careful mate
I was joking about you being in the SAS obv but Hostage murdered as royal marines and SBS mount rescue operation.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2012/03/09/british-hostage-executed-by-al-qaeda-as-botched-nigeria-rescue-ends-in-double-tragedy-86908-23780739/


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 09, 2012, 06:58:33 PM
I was on holiday last year and met some nice Folks one of whom worked in Nigeria in the oil industry he said it was the most  dangerous / unsafe place he had ever been to so be careful mate
I was joking about you being in the SAS obv but Hostage murdered as royal marines and SBS mount rescue operation.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2012/03/09/british-hostage-executed-by-al-qaeda-as-botched-nigeria-rescue-ends-in-double-tragedy-86908-23780739/

Yeah, pretty horrible... things are going 10000000 miles an hour after this broke like this.  So unfortunate they weren't able to be saved.
[X] We are the lucky ones.

Sooo..... spent most of the day doing feck all looking around for kit/ tools that shouldve been here weeks ago.
[ ] Found it...

So we went 'shopping' this afternoon down some 'local' Nigerian market (shopping means armored car to and from with 2 minutes outside of it, and local means 45 min drive to get there..)  We managed to find some bits n bobs and got some work done this afternoon, might have a few pics to load up at some point.  Then finished and came home, went to the gym and just destroyed myself then come up to the room and order room service... It takes 10 mins to explain I'd like a salad with Chicken with more than just lettuce, then it gets here and its the two tiniest pieces of Chicken you have EVER seen and I send him packing to get some more!

Now chowing down - nom nom nom.. going to start part 1 of Tommy Angelos 'the eightfold path to poker enlightenment' then play a cash session... wide awake, ready and refocussed to push the 'edge' over larger samples!


Please explain what was wrong with this hand?  I was 3bt him on two tables.. one AKs, the other was this.. he min4bt this one and folded other.  I call due to it being min4bt and i have the motha-f***n  Td 9d biatch!

flop is 9 high and he cbets standard 1/2 pot..dont hate or love it... we'll see a turn pls.
then he snap shoves aiott... timing tell - snapped him off! :D tyty

I'm face palming myself enough at the moment, this is a mini moment of glory - this time 'they' didnt have the AA's!


Is this HU?

No, 6max but we happened to be playing hu on both tables in this particiular hand.. think I was oop on one table (this one) and ip on the other (AKs - he folded)



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 09, 2012, 07:13:45 PM
Wp pleno on putting something in public that was fyi only... sigh! (nvm mate, just not in future pls)

SO... yer I'm in Nigeria... not the best place in the world but not the worst so far - Not in Lagos which is propa bad!
Customs official tried to banter it up with me and screw me over by only giving me 2 weeks on my visa instead of the 3 i asked for - nh him, I have a diplomatic visa so GL them trying to stop me leaving when I feel like.
Few other funny things but nothing major, caused a big hurrah today when i got there because there's not enough Asbestos checks been done so that might be gg to part of the trip. Meh.. 

Are you going to Brazil?
I think we met at DTD this weekend. I was donking about in a red had with IS IT on. This the right blog?
Titty - yer we did mate, thought you played pretty decent, UL with the QQ hand.. obv A10 binks ott. Any chance you remember what you had when you 3bt my utg open? (I had JJ, not sure its going to be easy enough to play that vs you oop when im only like 24-28bb deep).


Well the flesh bit sounds interesting but steak and veg for me!


Sigh cant believe I went for Brazil not Nigeria :(

And yes I know what I hads :-p  I had loosened up my 3bet range by one pip, just dem  Kh Kd



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 09, 2012, 07:34:44 PM

Sigh cant believe I went for Brazil not Nigeria :(

And yes I know what I hads :-p  I had loosened up my 3bet range by one pip, just dem  Kh Kd


Really? Hmm.. makes sense.  What did you think of me at that point? (obv you didn't know I'm only a 25nl spewtard wannabe)

I took so long to fold despite it being the 'snap' decision, I just hate open/ folding utg to someone who I know 'can' 3bt light.. even when I don't think he is.
(didn't make sense for you to be light there... like ever. imo)

I really wanted you to fold dem QQ's on the TxxTx board, I'm not sure he ever fires the 3rd barrell there with <JJ - what do you think in retrospect?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: titaniumbean on March 09, 2012, 07:52:28 PM
oh ya it's easy fold on turn, but not when i've lost every pot and would rather go home :p

I think you play terribly because you didn't stack off with JJ to ma overpair obv :p


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 13, 2012, 07:57:35 PM
This is a long one.. but well worth it if you can work your way through it!

Trip update..

So the work is going ok, doing my stuff... but managed to have a bunch of Deuces Cracked videos while working which has been pretty awesome. 

I have watched:

- The eightfold path to Poker enlightenment (quite old I think - 2008 or something)
Fantastic series by Tommy Angelo, which takes the eightfold path to enlightenment from Budda.  This is really a great watch/ listen for ANY poker player who plays at any stakes as it deals with life and self and improvement.  I am geniunely going to be investigating the path myself as the idea's i've heard so far intrigue and interest me.
I am employing some of the techniques mentioned and will be when i play live from now on... so thanks Tommy.

- Search and Destroy (recent and appropriate)
This is a leakbusting series which I think is essential watching for all <200NL players and anyone who wants to understand how to use HEM2 better to improve themselves, at any stakes!  I will be rewatching this after 50k hands with Pads and probably again at 100/150k etc.. in order to self improve and analyse effectively.

- Creative Grinders (recent)
This is a new series which will have a group of grinders who work with Krantz to analyse and improve their game with the analysis of each other and K.  Looks pretty good but the 100-400NL stuff isn't relevant to me yet.

- G Man Talking Theory (recent)
VERY good HU discussion about certain ideas with regards to betting and adapting to players tendancies and things to consider.
Not finished it yet,

- Finished watching DOGISHEADSUP
This is also a fantastic HU series, from a while ago - with Gman and DOGISHEAD.  They have one theory episode and then one playing... at 3 different levels... and then a bonus one where they play each other and explain every hand of interest.
Helped me start 50NL HU with a slight 'advantage' over the bad regs or poor players, but im not yet good enough to crush the good regs!!!! YET!


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So that's the videos, and after watching the S&D series which had 2 people with similar leaks and styles to myself I played last night with one slight 'tweak' to my game in play.  I was going to use a 'structured' opening range, which would only be adjusted if there was a necessity to do so.  (For those of you who do not understand what I mean, I was going to only play hands that appeared on a 'pre-chosen list' of starting hands).

Now I realise this is a simple and almost robotic idea which doesn't allow for game flow and table dynamic range changes.. but tbh I need the fundamentals of something like this first as my post flop play is clearly creative and aggressive enough already.

I then proceeded to play the best session of online poker of my life so far...
We made only one error, when we 5bt shoved utg+1 56cc vs utg KK... woops.  I managed to win $60 in one hour and hit a $50 first deposit bonus.


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Then Nigerian live poker in the hilton!

We then went downstairs with a renewed and instatiable want for live poker which we knew could be provided if the guys I'd met the other night (while a little drunk) were there...

I went down and two guys were playing HU ... I found out they were playing 1000/2000 and without reminding myself what the stakes were in ££ i decided to get out 100k and sit down.  They had 100k (player A) and 80k (player B) respectively and were both shockingly bad at the pokers.

I knew this wasn't going to be 'if' I could get the money from them, merely how long it would take could I beat the rake?

We then had a roulette player sit with 30k (minimum) and proceed to do his first buyin in first hand with a full house....  But he went back to the roulette table until he won again when he returned to play some more.
In the meantime I played a few hands but mainly decided that 3 handed I ought to be very tight pre as these two would not fold pre at all...
- My AK was beaten by Q7 on Q7xxx when I checked flop and he checked back, I took one stab ott and he called so I gave up, he then checked back Q7 and I knew I was in for some interesting spots.

A few hands later I found  Ahrt 8c and opened to 6k (playing 80k).. I was called by player B (playing 80k) and then the roulette fish (playing 30k) who'd come back, player A then squeezed to 36k and I was in a tough spot.  I'd already seen him play one strong pre flop hand by raising small pre and therefore read this as a weak raise and that my A high was good.  I didnt like reshoving here but I was 100% that I had the best hand right now and the two players behind would have to fold when I did reshove.  I take a couple of minutes and reshove... player B folds and the roulette fish snap calls, with player A snap calling also (oh shit) and exposing those magical #gotemwhenuneedem

 Ac Aspades

Fuck my life!

#goingtoneedsomethingherethenwishihadntshovednowilooklikearighttitaments



FLOP
 Qh 8d 8h

OMFG... the guy takes it really well but laughs it up as I expose my  8c instantly.

We hold and I get a decent double..


I play really solid from this point on, with my new read of 'he literally bets the strength of his hand' in play and knowing he always calls with any pair I owned him for a good few rounds.

I then decided its 1230 and I have work today I'll go home and lock up a 60k win (turns out this is close to £300....) I felt like a king and a real poker player, properly - for the first time I think.

I then managed to lose a decent sized pot with  Kc Qs on  Qh 5c 4c vs his  5d 5h with the roulette player all in.  I protected my stack and relunctantly called his river bet, but after review today I don't think he'd made a bet that big at any point and I should have stuck to my read that he could beat top pair in this spot.

I then played really well, dodging 4 situations where I would normally stack off 3 handed  without any thought, based entirely on live reads and hand reading -
[X] They were all sickly good folds and he showed every time.
[X] Literally playing my A game.
[ ] winning pots


I then lost 2x 30k pots where I was 70-80% favourite and took it as well as possible, especially after my  Ahrt 8c hand.

And eventually got all in with a K10 shove over his AJ open, he made the nuts of course and that was gg to 100k Nigerian - or £400 sterling. - woops.

As much as I know I can take the money off him in the long term... esp with his tells, I am not rolled for that game and that one 'shot' is all im taking this trip.  The overtime of the trip will pay for the shot and I am proud of myself for not going back.


I'm now going to tuck into my Salmon, rice and broccoli for the 3rd night in a row.... - its magic, honest!

And then play a session.. maybe playing the 9pm DTD150 mega sat also.


GL us. and let the long term, real grind through 25NL commence!


All you need to do is be tight pre and semi- thinking postflop and people literally give you $$$!




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 13, 2012, 08:06:12 PM
 :hello: ;karabiner;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 17, 2012, 11:49:31 PM
So we're getting some grinding time in the evenings which is being used to experiment a little...

We've tried a couple of different styles and yes the tighter, more solid game does allow for easy moneys.  But it does also require hands on both parts and relys on our ability to hand read better than our opponents.

After watching the "Coaching Kristy" and "Coaching Kristy 2" in which Andrew 'Baluga Whale' Seidman coaches Kristy Arnett through micros and small stakes online, while she grinds some $1/2 and $2/5 Las Vegas live games. (picture below)
These are particularly good educational series with regarding pre-flop play and discussing 3/4 and 5bt dynamics, why we do it, how and vs who.... which has definitely helped my 'splashy' pre-flop game a lot!  (managed to get someone to 3/5bt shove 55's @ 25NL - doesn't ever happen ime).

As a direct result of the series, I've been experimenting with a much looser pre-flop game, with the intention of praying on the weak tight players and theyre folding tendancies and to cause the Reg's heads to explode!


WPT 6max Grind
After the second week of being staked we'd won a bunch and then decided to try and win every big pot and apparently lost a fair bunch.. (who'd guess that the nits have a hand every time)  I went down to $280 from the original $500 stake (sry pads) and then gave ourselves a little slap around the head, binked a $50 first deposit bonus and then started playing properly.. winning 5 of last 6 sessions - despite still having at least 1x $25 mistake in each session.  I'm not perfect yet, who knew?

But I've been aggressive in much better and more profitable spots in the last few sessions, finding that I can cause the regs to do out of the ordinary things.. but when it comes down to it this will be much more effective at the higher levels and I have to remember this is the case.

Well after the tighter sessions and a couple of looser aggressive sessions - running between 29/24/14 - 43/38/20 makes it fun that I'm playing so many hands but my NSD line is now often +VE... so its just a case of making sure im tight enough post flop to counteract my participation in more than my fair share of pots.

Now we're back up to $470 and getting close to our 2nd $50 first deposit bonus... I'm getting into some massive pots with this style and tbh the majority of the big pots I lost were a mistake in one way shape or form.

[X] Had AK vs AA 2x tonight.... vs Regs.... SIGHH!!!!!
[X] Won 1 of them! -  Ahrt Kh vs  Ad Aspades on  Qh 5h 4c Js 6h  - pretty good board imo!
[X] Check shoved  Ad Qc vs  Kh Ks on  7c Tc 7s - probably not the best idea.
[X] 4bt called  5h 5d preflop.... he had KK ofc.

But I'm really enjoying grinding and experimenting...esp when I have a player pool small enough to see the same guys again and again... so looking forward to doing some funky stuff vs the Regs and just owning the fish left right and centre.
Really happy with me getting a Reg to spazz out with 3b/5bt 55's pre vs me!  Sounds silly as this is standard at higher levels with certain aggressive preflop dynamics but I've literally never seen it at 25NL over my short time.

Other than this just looking forward to playing live next as well... want to try my improved pre-flop game out in the different live settings I play in. 

#lovingthegame - cant play enough!



Online is tiring work though..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 18, 2012, 11:11:16 PM
No comments for Kirsty? really?  I'm suprised at you lot!!

WPT Grind
Going good, up another buyin in todays hour session, first time I've only had big pots being +$ and lots of bet fold small ones.... (they raise when they got summat innit!)

Back up to $497 (started with $500), about to bust the 2nd stage of FDB and enjoying it immensely!  Lets not play like a tool this time.


I've been very interested by the 'dont like internet poker' thread on blonde, as its a real topic of debate for live originating players like myself.  However as a logical fella I see the +ve side of online:
- more games
- lower expenses
- no travel time
- anytime you like
- rubbing my balls while getting the $$!
- talking to 5 diff people on strat/ ideas while playing
- watching Blom rip up some dude at 20KNL (that was mega tonight)


Well this was a 'quickie'... hope you all enjoyed it as much as i did!?

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 18, 2012, 11:52:53 PM
sometimes you just don't see it...


 4bt called  5h 5d preflop.... he had KK ofc.



Really happy with me getting a Reg to spazz out with 3b/5bt 55's pre vs me! 

rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on March 19, 2012, 12:58:12 AM
sometimes you just don't see it...


 4bt called  5h 5d preflop.... he had KK ofc.



Really happy with me getting a Reg to spazz out with 3b/5bt 55's pre vs me! 

rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao


These lines made me chuckle.

Not sure how 4-bet calling with 55 and being massively proud of getting someone to 'spazz out' getting it in with 55 vs you can be mentioned in the same post..... but I like it.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 19, 2012, 06:38:45 AM
sometimes you just don't see it...


 4bt called  5h 5d preflop.... he had KK ofc.



Really happy with me getting a Reg to spazz out with 3b/5bt 55's pre vs me! 

rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao


These lines made me chuckle.

Not sure how 4-bet calling with 55 and being massively proud of getting someone to 'spazz out' getting it in with 55 vs you can be mentioned in the same post..... but I like it.

Fair... but they dont do that kind of stuff 'most' of the time.

So I did it thinking the guys range was polarised... i.e. QQ+, AQ+ and obv 55's arent a massive dog when there is enough in the middle to offset my 41% equity.

Difference is -
I'm doing it with a structured 3/4/5bt range, however I believe this guy just spazzed with a pair because I was pounding on him so much.
I may be wrong and that he was doing the same as I but the frequency with which he reraised me leads me to believe not.

Does that make sense or am i just throwing terms around?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 22, 2012, 11:30:58 PM
OI!...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 22, 2012, 11:35:39 PM
Just played my first ever darts n pool tournament.

I washed out first round in the Darts... but im getting there with almost being able to hit what i want.

And pool - well thats my game innit!

Came 2nd to 'Graham'... lovely guy but he doesn't ever f*cking miss.... I tried my best and even played well but he just didnt lose!  I lost 2-1! sigh!




nvm...

 up to like $530 in the staking so lets keep that going, back from Nigeria soon... nice people but i don't wana come back here anytime soon for a holiday!





miss dtd and he sweet DD sized GTD's!!!! :D

2 of my friends have won £20k+ in a weekend in the last 6 weeks! time to get some rungood together!!!! :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on March 23, 2012, 12:17:07 AM

Fair... but they dont do that kind of stuff 'most' of the time.


But you do, so it's better when you get to do it every now and again? :) Just kidding, but i'd be more proud of getting other people to spew in sessions where you can say you've played solid the whole way through... stringing those sessions together is the key.


So I did it thinking the guys range was polarised... i.e. QQ+, AQ+ and obv 55's arent a massive dog when there is enough in the middle to offset my 41% equity.

Difference is -
I'm doing it with a structured 3/4/5bt range, however I believe this guy just spazzed with a pair because I was pounding on him so much.
I may be wrong and that he was doing the same as I but the frequency with which he reraised me leads me to believe not.

Does that make sense or am i just throwing terms around?

Just because you have a 'structured 3/4/5bt range' does not mean calling it off with 55 is good/ok/not spew. By all means 3-bet to 5-bet shove with 55 in a good spot, but don't 4-bet call. The whole reason this is fine is because when you are 3bet 5betting your opp folds out a good chunk of his range, making it profitable, provided you do it with hands with some equity when called/some blocker(s) to make it more likely to get through. 4-bet calling because you have OK equity vs hiis range just doesnt hold up over time.

Pretty sure these are tiny edges you are looking for in these games where much bigger ones can be found much easier by playing solid/having a decent post-flop game.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on March 23, 2012, 10:49:25 AM
+1 TH, if you're 3b/5b 55 at 25nl there is something hugely wrong.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 23, 2012, 08:32:56 PM
+1 TH, if you're 3b/5b 55 at 25nl there is something hugely wrong.

I appreciate the comments lads.. trying to obviously give myself some room to grow as I move up the stakes.  Obv don't need to be too clever in certain spots until level XNL but in my defence, the 3/5bt spots were most often vs the one or two regs over my 4 tables that seemed to be adjusting to my super loose preflop game.

I think in these sessions I played a minimum of like 35/30/18... so even the least observant players started to notice, but the good thing is most of them don't really know how to do anything about it.

I agree the 4bt call is gross... I really didn't love it and 4b/call or 4b/fold ranges is one im going to be asking Pleno as soon as I can tie him down in an evening!  I think I 4bt to like $11.50 and had $18 behind.. I used most of my timebank if i remember correctly and at the end of it realised there should be enough AQ/AK in this spot vs his JJ+ that I have to call even if this player may only ever have pp's or AK..



Definitely improving my game now and Pleno is right about sticking to 4 tables as I do think about all the spots on all the tables that little bit more, which I'm sure will help accelerate my journey as much as possible.

Also sticking to 60-90 min blocks is working well for me with concentration and level of overall play which is something that I think a lot of players under-estimate affecting their winrates.... obv after X amount of hands your tired 'autopilot' should be able to win you Xbb/100 and when compared with the downtime of an hour break or something I know that some people justify super-long sessions.  But obviously for most people tilt, tiredness, concentration and thinking all have a time limit of some kind.

Only thing now is how F*CKING MEGA TILTING live play can be! :D
- players
- comments of said players (about poker, life, odds, etc etc)
- duration of things
- amount of hands
- shoddy service by semi-fit 'wannabe' hostesses
- random mistakes/ misdeals/ clock calling


Its funny really since I don't think I really ever tilt any more (thanks JT), I definitely struggle to play my A game for hours on end if i dont take regular breaks and have pleny of brain food and water!  But with Tommy Angelo helping me out with stop-losses, objectivising a session to be something other than winning ££'s, focussing on being mindful and thinking about all the silly -ve £ things I've done in the past and many live players/ regs continue to do!


Zen JB here we come!

night all, peace!

(been to the gym today and might even post a pic on here soon as I'm starting to really get some guns going on and slowly getting rid of the flab...)

[ ] Fit, healthy, happy, winning poker player!
[X] working on above, achieve by Dec 2012?                 YOU DECIDE!  ;starwars;      (literally any excuse)







Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on March 23, 2012, 09:46:07 PM
yoyoyo ewmail me youre full schedule (daily if poss) for April please bud. Get some fun stuff planned


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on March 23, 2012, 10:04:07 PM
+1 TH, if you're 3b/5b 55 at 25nl there is something hugely wrong.

I agree the 4bt call is gross... I really didn't love it and 4b/call or 4b/fold ranges is one im going to be asking Pleno as soon as I can tie him down in an evening!  I think I 4bt to like $11.50 and had $18 behind.. I used most of my timebank if i remember correctly and at the end of it realised there should be enough AQ/AK in this spot vs his JJ+ that I have to call even if this player may only ever have pp's or AK..




How exactly have you 4-bet to $11.50 @ 25NL???

Surely the betting pattern should go roughly:

0.10/0.25/0.75/2.25/4.75... at most a 4-bet could go to $5.25, therefore never having to commit yourself with hands like 55.

Even if you open to $1.00, villain makes it $3.25/$3.50, you would make it about $7.50.



General sizings for 4-bets should be just over 2x the 3-bet, to allow for 4-bet folding / enducing 5-bet shoves... an opponent can almost never be 5-bet bluffing if you 4-bet to $11.50 playing $29.50.

Generally open 2x/2.5x OTB, 3x from everywhere else, 3-bet to 8bb IP, 10bb OP, 4-bet should basically always be just over 2x the 3-bet, to open our + opp ranges. Obviously if deeper these nubers can increase (these should be saved for good spots vs appropriate villains.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 23, 2012, 10:34:36 PM
yoyoyo ewmail me youre full schedule (daily if poss) for April please bud. Get some fun stuff planned

yer obv as soon as I have an idea... IF I'm still in the UK I'd like to qualify for/ offer staking for UKIPT nottingham.. and get some $$ there! (you get first refusal as we agreed ofc)

+1 TH, if you're 3b/5b 55 at 25nl there is something hugely wrong.

I agree the 4bt call is gross... I really didn't love it and 4b/call or 4b/fold ranges is one im going to be asking Pleno as soon as I can tie him down in an evening!  I think I 4bt to like $11.50 and had $18 behind.. I used most of my timebank if i remember correctly and at the end of it realised there should be enough AQ/AK in this spot vs his JJ+ that I have to call even if this player may only ever have pp's or AK..




How exactly have you 4-bet to $11.50 @ 25NL???

Surely the betting pattern should go roughly:

0.10/0.25/0.75/2.25/4.75... at most a 4-bet could go to $5.25, therefore never having to commit yourself with hands like 55.

Even if you open to $1.00, villain makes it $3.25/$3.50, you would make it about $7.50.



General sizings for 4-bets should be just over 2x the 3-bet, to allow for 4-bet folding / enducing 5-bet shoves... an opponent can almost never be 5-bet bluffing if you 4-bet to $11.50 playing $29.50.

Generally open 2x/2.5x OTB, 3x from everywhere else, 3-bet to 8bb IP, 10bb OP, 4-bet should basically always be just over 2x the 3-bet, to open our + opp ranges. Obviously if deeper these nubers can increase (these should be saved for good spots vs appropriate villains.

Think my sizing in these things can do with some tweaking...

I think I've been using this as standard atm

Open raise - 3X
Steal (btn, sb) - 2X
3bet OOP - 3.5x their raise
3bet IP - 2.75-3x their raise
4bt - 2.5-3.5x their raise
5bt - often a 100bb shove, have made it 40-50bb's when over 200bb deep.

Single raised pot - Flop 60-75%/ Turn 70-90%/ River - situational, all sorts of amounts.. min/ 20%/ 70%/140%
3bp - 50/50/pot or shove..

Thoughts?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on March 23, 2012, 10:52:05 PM
sizing is part of plenos classes for next month innit



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 23, 2012, 11:06:47 PM
sizing is part of plenos classes for next month innit

Gd lad...
Does it involve lots of KK 300bb bluffs like the big C-dog... or is he the only one licensed to do that kind of thing?

:P



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 26, 2012, 10:46:46 PM
Back from Nigeria... not a very nice place.. won't be going back for a holiday anytime soon!  Lovely people though, so friendly.

Back at 3pm, pickup Charlene at the airport and get home by 5, in gym by 6 with my bro and then in Jamie's restaurant in city centre of MK by 815!!!

GET ME A STEAK AND VEG ASAP!
medium rare of course, no debates there.  This isn't PoaPb, no steakgate please!

Had a great meal, even if C did make me wait for my main course by holding onto her starter for an extra 5-10 mins without eating it, thus delaying my steak!!!





Now at home chilling, catching up on some 'homeland' to find my trusty SKYHD box hasnt recorded the last two episodes... omfgdfjlkdjfsfjlkjfhgfdhgish!




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: mondatoo on March 26, 2012, 10:55:08 PM
http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/Homeland_27151/


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 27, 2012, 12:08:45 AM
http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/Homeland_27151/

thank you sir,
not meaning any rubs, but when will you start saving? wana sweat ur counter!!!! :D



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: mondatoo on March 27, 2012, 12:18:59 AM
http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/Homeland_27151/

thank you sir,
not meaning any rubs, but when will you start saving? wana sweat ur counter!!!! :D



Haha, It will be getting a decent boost within two weeks :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 27, 2012, 05:17:39 PM
Some photo's of my last few weeks...

1. $1 FO on stars.. came 109/10000 or something... won a tidy $4.50... sweet! :D
2. Night out with some mates... they dressed up as 'old people' - great idea!
3. These boxes have taken 3 days of my life... just connecting a few cables.......
4. My first darts win, hit a 2 dart finish and was SUPER happy about it!
5. Driving on the wrong side of a dual carriadgeway into oncoming traffice - TIN - this is Nigeria! :P



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on March 27, 2012, 06:51:48 PM
Looks an odd two darter. Looks like you've hit treble 13 double 1 for a 41 check out. 
9 double 16 far better route :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 27, 2012, 07:36:11 PM
Single 13 for a double 1..

the previous game i took like 21 darts to slowly get down from a 40 finsh to a 2 finish, so this time figured id go straight for it!

:D


Even hit 1x 140.... was sooo chuffed!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Leatherman on March 27, 2012, 07:43:02 PM
Do you play for a team at Darts/Pool or are ya just having a friendly chuck/knock.. ?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 27, 2012, 08:57:38 PM
No, I don't play for anyone.. this was in the BHC club in Nigeria vs a colleague.  The competition was a 'club' bi-weekly thing.. coming second in the pool was a shame, but I played great.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 27, 2012, 11:47:56 PM
Siggghhhhhhh-aments!

Just bust both the DTD150 and the DTDUKIPT satellites..

DTD150 Sat
Played super solid all the way through, was CL from the first level until we were down to like 20 people...  Just had a few hands in and played them alright.
Then made one mistake.. where I had AKo otb and flatted vs EP raise from a big stack, BB comes along with A5o and a short stack... (well played sir)

Flop
5x5, OR cbets small - I call, BB calls.
Turn
xo and checked around and I decide that I can take this down here... so I shove for 1.3x pot and BB snaps... - well this probably isnt good, we might be able to hit an A or K though.  Nope they're not good.
River
K.... thanks, just what I needed.

So thats a decent chunk of our stack gone, bah humbug!


DTDUKIPT Sat
Played fine all the way through, pretty snug as usual, struggled to find a hand really tbh (had them in the dtd150).
Get down to like 18bb's and get into SS shove mode, but again struggle to find anything to shove. Then decide to shove my next btn if folded to me - works, then shove Js 9s next hand - works, and then find  Aspades  Ks and shove again... this time about 3 of the guys tank fold... with me praying for the call! :D

Then some genius called BTHEROCK decides to 'trap' limp Kh Th otb with a shortstack.... WTF... LOLZ....

I find Kc 6c and shove over his and the SB limp, he snaps and flops the straight..... - guess you gota know when you're going to flop tha nutz!


So thats our tourny grind for the night...


WPT Cash Grind
Played 3 hours in two sessions and finished -$10, been playing a little bit looser pre flop to try and pick up the dead preflop money there is at 25NL.. it also allows some of the players to 'spazz' a little vs me - (It's hard to get action on your big hands preflop when you're playing 18/16...)

Feel like my game and hand reading is going really well... still making a few mistakes, but losing a stack with Ac 6h when I 3bt, 1/2pot, 1/2pot, shove on 10xxxx.... is fine when the guy calls me down with Tc 6c - note made and I will now be shoving vs him SUPER LIGHT! (but paired obv)



Off to sleep, night all.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 28, 2012, 01:06:05 AM
(http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/cpopictures/Facepalm-Moving.gif)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 28, 2012, 02:05:43 PM
What's the facepalm for? Awesome GIF btw.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on March 28, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
a6 is literally the nut worst hand to 3bet in any spot.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 28, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
a6 is literally the nut worst hand to 3bet in any spot.

Appreciated.. it was a perfect squeeze spot, my BB to a btn raise n SB call with the perfect two players in the pot.  Wasn't playing my hand.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 28, 2012, 06:14:23 PM
a6 is literally the nut worst hand to 3bet in any spot.

Disagree with that, it has a blocker and can flop top pair. It's better than LOADS of hands like T2 73o etc. Obv prefer suited too.

Not saying it's a hand I'd consider 3betting ever lol, just saying it's gotta be better than 94o!



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on March 28, 2012, 09:18:35 PM
nut worst realistic hand*


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on March 29, 2012, 12:52:52 AM
nut worst realistic hand*

yeh i dunno why i didn't assume u meant that!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 29, 2012, 01:54:46 AM
nut worst realistic hand*

yeh i dunno why i didn't assume u meant that!

true.

Hows the EPT winning going?  I managed to come 5th in a UKIPT live sat with 2 seats tonight... sigh-aments..

Made a 'technical' mistake i think... I raise/4bt shoved 44 vs a particular villain with 25k @ 800/1600 - chatting to DL +TL (online tourny players) they reckon it should be a raise fold with that stack.  My short stack play is much better, but not perfect by any means yet.

Nvm, more dtd satellite opportunities im sure. :D

Haven't even 'registered' the bustout/ loss as i feel i played optimally at all stages.  Can't ask for more imo.


Right, getting a stroppy 'come to bed' vibe from C so I'm off to rescue her night!  :P



I've mentioned to a few mates about selling some pieces of me in Gentings live series for this Friday's Day 1C @ 1.1 - £47.50 a slice, can't offer on here yet as I don't have enough posts, but thats fine.  You're chance to throw away money on me will come in time.  Would be nice to play it, pretty sure I'll have a pretty significant edge vs a lot of the field with a 25k stack and 1 hr clock.  That's like a super deep £0.50/1 or£1/1 game for 3 days! yes PLEASE!!!!!!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: shipitonetime on March 29, 2012, 03:32:00 AM
nut worst realistic hand*

yeh i dunno why i didn't assume u meant that!

true.

Hows the EPT winning going?  .



What a rub! Surely you just do a click on alex's diary and find out results?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 29, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
Big News!
We have decided to enter into the world of our generation and join the 'im on finance for something' club.

Today I have cemented my online poker entrance for a while by purchasing the following!



Case                                    COOLERMASTER SILEO 500 QUIET MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)                    Intel® Core™i7-2600 Quad Core (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache) + HD Graphics
Motherboard                         ASUS® P8Z68-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX
Memory (RAM)                    8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)
Graphics Card                       1GB AMD RADEON™ HD6870 - 2 DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
Memory                                 1st Hard Disk   2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive        24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Memory Card Reader           INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply                        600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)
Processor Cooling                   SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE INTEL CPU COOLER (£19)
Sound Card                           ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities                   10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options                           6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Operating System                   Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software                   Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2010 (Incl Disc & 1 License for 3 devices) (£89)
Anti-Virus                             BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL - (I have Mcaffee yearly subscription)
Monitor                             IIYAMA E2273HDS 22" LED WIDESCREEN, HDMI/DVI-D 1920x1080 (£129)
2nd Monitor                           IIYAMA E2273HDS 22" LED WIDESCREEN, HDMI/DVI-D 1920x1080 (£129)
3rd Monitor                           IIYAMA E2273HDS 22" LED WIDESCREEN, HDMI/DVI-D 1920x1080 (£129)
Warranty                         3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery                             PCS EXTRA-CARE DIAMOND DELIVERY - MON-FRI, PRE-10AM (£16)
Build Time                           FAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH (£59)


Price (ex VAT)   £1,241.85
Price    (inc VAT) £1,490.22
Order Quantity   1


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Natural-Ergonomic-Desktop-7000/dp/B000UTQSM0/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1333043164&sr=1-1
For £35ish

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ergotech-Triple-Horizontal-Monitor-100-D16-B03/dp/B001NPEC5A/ref=sr_1_1?s=officeproduct&ie=UTF8&qid=1333043131&sr=1-1
For £219ish



So we need to get a few bi's in order to pay for this!

On top of this we have sold 30% of action in the Genting £430, and with 10% for Pads that means we're playing 60% tomorrow assuming we can buy-in with no problems.


A little bit Scary tbh.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on March 29, 2012, 07:28:22 PM
Best of luck at the Fox. Get the puter paid for by Sunday obv


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 29, 2012, 08:05:13 PM
Thanks, that's the plan obv.. just need Rob to bring back the DTD500 sats and its a cert.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: strak33 on March 29, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
Bad res for the monitors.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on March 29, 2012, 09:26:07 PM
Bad res for the monitors.
Talk to me...

this isn't very helpful alone...

???


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 01, 2012, 02:37:18 AM
Full trip report to follow -

Cliffs
We played Genting Poker Series London Friday and Saturday with 60% of ourselves (20% Pleno/ 20% D'L)

We made day 2 with 145k (2x avg), shoulda had 250k but lost KK vs AK last orbit of day 1c
We played super solid in day 2 with some terrible starting hands and tough seat draws
made a few small mistakes but some big improvements in previous error spots
Cashed for £860
Somehow lost  Td 7d vs Tim Cheung  Ahrt Qh aipf - POKER IS RIGGED!


:D

peace


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 02, 2012, 08:37:38 PM
Mouse n keyboard have arrived!
Monitor stand has arrived also and its so sexy! but it is pretty big... this could be a struggle to fit it in. - woops

Managed to win a dtd150 and ukipt seat for tonights sats already, lets turn them into real seats pls!

Text received to confirm tomorrows deliver of uber grind PC - cant wait.... tomorrow will be torturous at work knowing its here ready to be opened and setup :(



I'm enjoying the cash games online and managing to play much better overall than I ever have before.  But I'm not winning at the rate I think I should be yet, I'm still making some mistakes for stacks that I really shouldn't be so going to be working with Patrick and a friend of his 'Ben' who is crushing small stakes and will help me get rid of those leaks that's causing me problems at the minute.  Not a massive issue as I'm certain its a couple of small things I'm just not sticking to that will mean big changes in my winrate.
The harsh reality of how hard it is to 'win @ poker' - its the hardest way to make an easy living.....    (#unlessurcalledgoulder)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on April 02, 2012, 08:45:58 PM
Grats on a nice run :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 03, 2012, 01:46:02 AM
Grats on a nice run :)
Thanks dude, not enough for me im afraid! I want one of these tournies for my own! (the £50k might be nice but I know I can win one!)

Turned out to be a long one.... Bear with me please.  I've colored it an everything to make it look pretty and entertaining.


Genting Poker Series Leg 2 - London
These tournaments are fantastically structured.. with 25k and 1 hour clock, all the levels and super soft field full of satelliters and 'wannabes' like me who think they're ready to step up.  There are of course some fantastic live and online tournament players to either avoid or to defeat on the way.

Day 1c - Palm Beach
I received a text from the Palm in the morning to inform me that my leg would be conducted there as there were too many players wanting to play the final day.  I turned up in time to sit down after missing a couple of hands and begin paying as much attention to my table as possible.  I double checked all the rules, making sure I knew if they were being strict on anything (they were - actions out of turn, instant 2 hand penalty, no warning!).  And then spent some time finding the names of all my table mates and hendon mobbing them for 'obvious regs'.  I knew the most prominent one - Richard Horton and have played with him before at dtd in the £300 deepstack last year.  He seems solid aggressive but I only played with him on day2 when we both had decent stacks.  So this would be different when its early days, again I was also sure he didn't remember me (bonus ofc).

We played really solid and tight, just making observations as we went along.  Turns out we had probably the 'nut' seat of the table, the two 'reggish' players to our right, and two face up fish on our left, with our direct left being unoccupied - giving us two buttons/ orbit :D :D :D.
As silly as it seems we really didn't do much about that until we managed to get some chips to play with.. I appreciate that 25K @ any of the first few levels is still 00's of bb's but I didn't want to get down to 15K and be having to put my tournament on the line anytime i played a decent sized pot.  Instead I patiently waited and made a few hands, lost a few and did something very unusual..

- I flatted  Kh Kd IP preflop because I was in HJ and wanted the fishy BTN and SB to come along since the CO and BB weren't there at all.  No one had 3bet at this point and I felt like it would get way too much credit, so instead decided to try and play my hand as a 5-7k pot type hand and get 30-50bb's with it.  That all ended with an  Aspades 4d Th flop and a cbet, my call and a call behind.  I folded turn and they ended up both shown down an Ace - I ended up losing less than what my 3bet would have been.

- We plod along for a few more orbits and eventually find  Ks Qs in CO, make a standard open and get 3 callers.  We flop the disinteresting  4s 6s 8s and get check raised by the SB..  Hmmm.... We flat and decide to let him barrell off worse, probably only calling down if he gives us 3 streets.. (on a raggy board his Ax ss becomes more likely imo)
He bets a turn brick big but checks the river brick.... hmmm maybe he's just got a set or two pair...  We take a while and eventually settle with a big almost pot sized bet as I expect to NEVER get check raised here!  He takes a while himself but sigh puts it in and we take a lead on the table.. up to 42K and looking good.

- Just an orbit or so later we open to 525 utg with 8h 8d and have an interesting spot when we get 3 callers and then the btn who I think is a 'wananbe genius' who has seen a video or two reraises to 3600 from 14k.  I take my time and look at the spot, realising that I'm sure his range isn't nutted enough that I can't put some pressure back on him.  I don't expect him to be 3betting 10's down as that would be pretty horrible in his spot when he could just flat - if I come over the top for example, what will he do with 10's vs my range utg into 4 people? (I'd puke if it were me).
Armed with this thinking and that there just arent enough calling hands (JJ+/ AQo+) then I work out I'll easily have the 35-ish % required to set him in here (turns out its 39.3%)
So I make it 11k which doesn't commit me to anyone but him and they all snap fold, he takes a few seconds and flicks the last 11.5K in and I snap call - to which he looks suprised (its 3k extra into 30k ofc im snapping).

And then he shows his  Th Ts..... FFS... idiot has played his hand badly and then faced with a utg 4bt from a tight young guy who's only showed 3 hands (all were the nuts) and he just sighs his tournament away with the old TT. 
Guess we better get there then since this will put us back to 30k and only a small CL on the rest of the table.
Obviously we bink an  8c on the turn and seeya pal! Now we're up to 60k and going strong!


We don't play too much from here on, messing around a little bit... in one spot we b, c, b air on QJx9x and take a while before overbetting 5100 into 3850 on the river.  I actually expect the guy to have a hard time calling AQ here from the way we've been playing so far.. but then he raises to 9.5K more leaving 6K behind... this really puzzled me, I really wanted to set him in, figuring he can't really have anything here that will love a river 3bt.  After a few seconds I decide to reign it in and stop myself busting my 'lead' in a speculative spot when the guy could just be pretty bad and overplaying QJ or something.

In the next hour or so we see both Sinem Melin and Paul Jackson come to the table and do their stacks into the same guy within an orbit each.  Sin had KK vs AK and PJ decided to raise, cc, cc, ccain with AA on Q9xxx - guy had 99 obv.  This one was a particularly interesting hand to me as I like Paul's play but something that made it really a big mistake to me was the 'live' aspect of the hand.  The guy 'sigh' set Paul in on the river after betting relatively small all the way through.. To me this coupled with some standard live reads lead me to believe the guy had exactly 99 as he is going to be 3betting QQ pre.  I've found out since that Paul was tilted from his other table and couldn't see clearly at the time = that'll explain it then.

We finally get moved tables to table 1 and find BBP pro 'Wayne' someone and Julian Thew on our table, along with the TD of G Southampton - Henry.  This table looks pretty fishy other than Wayne and Thewy but they're taken care of within an orbit or so as Thew stacked Wayne with KK vs A10 on 3K310 with some fun 'banter' along the way.  And then Thewy decides to play 9c 9h strange in a 3bet pot OOP by cc 8xx hh and cshoving xh.  The OR has AQhh and Thew gets 90% stack in dead which takes care of him for me.  Now I'm thinking I'm well on the way to day2, just have to keep grinding away!

I play really snug while getting some reads on the table (had been on my other one for like 8 hours) and decide to play AK pretty passive when I open utg and get 3bet by the old man to my left who stacked Thewy.  I just called pre and cf a Qxx board feeling that it would be hard to 4/5bet shove vs an older gentleman and have AK in good shape a lot.. (Fair I think TK - :D)

Having said that I then find a really nice spot a couple of orbits later, where the following happens.
- UTG opens for 2200, I call  Ac Kd UTG+1 and the older guy on our direct left makes it 8k (from 130K)
- Folds to UTG and he now makes it 21K (playing 70K) and I get a live read on him that he is 'weak'/ fedup/ frustrated
- I decide to snap shove my 56K over his 4bt, effectively I cold 5bt backraise 56K over 21K vs UTG and UTG+2.

Which I realise seems crazy but with the old blockers to AA/ KK and imo plenty of fold equity since UTG is weak and the old man is going to crap himself with <QQ I think its an easy spot to pickup 30K and increase my stack by over 50%. I haven't done anything strange or out of the ordinary, hardly been playing any pots and no one has any reason to think I'm at it here.

The older guy really starts to think about it and I'm trying to work out if he's sighing me off with QQ or worse.. obv I don't hate it as a double up will set me in great state for day2!  After counting his stack and taking a couple of minutes - he sigh's me off with  Ks Kh and the UTG hollywood folds - declaring AK, then our hands are tabled and I less than believe him (live reads FTW!)
Obviously getting the guy to fold KK wasn't part of the plan but we've got 30% I guess = so lets get there!

We make a rivered backdoor gutshot and the old  2h has never been more welcome! :D :D :D  So we get a full double +25K dead money and we're up to like 130K, probably CL in the whole tournament and going to be going for overall CL at 200K with the table we have!



Nikhil Persaud
The day carries on pretty standard, and eventually we get Nikhil Persaud moved to our table, he's a 5/10 reg @ The Vic and a partner in Black Belt Poker I believe.  I had the pleasure of railing his cash game for a few hours a year or two ago after I bust my own roll earlier that night and after we chatted about a few hands he asked if I'd take £200 of his money and go 50/50 on profits.  This was my introduction to backing but I couldn't stand it after I lost the money and went and got £200 of my own to pay him back with (lolz I know).

However I am literally 10x the player I was then and decided that with my table CL I wasn't going to let him come to my table and 'own' it with his 3bt's to commit the weaker players, to play off his image as a 'nit' and get people to hand him a lift up the chip list (I know this is something he does in these positions - e.g. late in the day with a middle-ing stack).  I watch the table react to him and eventually make a move, I 3bet his 3rd open in a row to 3800 - now UTG+1 from the CO with  2d 4d  to 10.7k leaving him an awkward stack size of 48K ish and I cover him twice over.  He takes an agonisingly long time while I just stare and the felt, occassionally looking up to see him squirm.  After complimenting me on my betsize (thanks) and giving me the 'eye' he sigh folds  4c 4h apparently and Henry the G S'hmpton TD tells him I'd have shown a  2d if I had one (as I had done that a couple of times by now).

The temptation to show was so strong but I had to resist as I felt that he wouldn't believe me afterwards and I knew I'd need to tangle with him again.


Other than this we play really solid for the rest of the day, using our stack (140K+, avg was 50K) to our benefit and slowly climb toward 200K. 
In the last orbit before the end of the day we've 3bet two hands on the trot, then open three hands in a row, and finally find  Kh Kc, we open UTG and get flatted by John (old guy) and then shoved on by UTG+2 'nit' and are super happy to flat once they all fold getting ourselves HU in a 110K pot vs his  Aspades Ks.  I'm already thinking it would be fair and just if he wins this one after my earlier hand.  But if we win it we will finish the day as overall Tournament Chip Leader and day2 will be ours to lose.  This was a fantastic feeling - I want this again!

We see a board of
 Ts 5c 6h 8s Qs and start picking up the chips as his hand is mucked.

"but he has a flush....." says someone.  I can't quite see his hand and didn't realise he had Aspades Ks - I thought it was offsuit.

I look up to the TD who is already looking to me to say "The hand was tabled John, it stands." as I'd been talking to Ralph throughout the day, he was a great guy - wp sir!

So I happily ship over the chips and recount.. 155K, hmmm its ok I guess.

We see two more hands and on the last one we call a shortstacks 3bt shove for 10k with  8c 9c, we end up HU as the OR folds afraid of me leaving us 9K of dead money and we're being 'paid' to take a hand vs AKo.
We flop an 8 but he rivers an A to stay alive and come back to day2 with 14bb's.

Meh - We bag up 144K and we're double average, playing some aggressive solid tournament poker and with a little rungood expect to make a deep run at Day2 with £50k up top.


Day 2
I'll make this short for those of you who have gotten this far...

Day 2 consisted of me repeatedly raise folding <77's in late position to shoves and winning chips off of the 'special lad' to my left, but losing them to Mr Huxley on my right as he 3x opened and insta-shoved over my 3bet's.. despite my playing tight.  I think he was a little too quick to do this tbh, but luckily for him I didn't find a real hand to do it with.  I end up moving table after having a strange hand mean I didnt play Ac 9c vs  Kh 9h for a full double up.  Luckily I get  Ks Kh next hand and while still discussing the ruling with the TD Colin (also a legend)  I knock out a shortie to get back to just under average.

I then move tables next to current CL Tim Chung and someone else who I 'understood' to be a decent winning player but I don't know his name.. both had me covered and I knew I had to be careful.  Tim respects my game I think.. so I didn't expect him to mess a lot, figured he wouldn't want me with more chips than I had to have.  We play our table pretty well for a few hours, ride out the bubble and I manage to play my 20bb's pretty well i feel.

Eventually we are getting close to breaking and I figure I'll try to get a few chips before I leave, use my fostered 'tighter' image to nick a few blinds and try to get in good shape knowing that any table would be trouble.

A guy who ends up on the final table 'Robin something' is blowing up as the whole table has owned him once or twice.. he coolered Tim a few orbits before with KK vs 99 for 180K aipf.. but he's down to like 210K now and steam is coming out of his ears.  I 3bt shove SB 7d Td knowing he's folding vs me 90%+ and ofc Tim finally wakes up with a hand, the old  Ahrt Qh.

We flop a gutshot and turn a flush draw but can't get there one more time!  We cash 43rd for £860 and unfortunately just couldn't find enough hands on day2 to get paid with.. its a shame but I feel I played some of my best tournament poker and with only a few value hands would have gone very deep in this tournament!

Next one is Edinburgh and without a satellited seat I doubt I'll be going that far.  But I'll play as many of them as I can.




The reason this has been so long is because I was grinding a DTD150 sat while doing it and have just gotten another seat (had one already) so tonight hasn't been a complete loss.  Still need a UKIPT seat though and may resort to playing live and online sats at the same time later in the week if necessary (I assume we're allowed?)



Well writing is more nackering than I could have ever imagined before I started this blog, but I am so glad I did and it is helping me so much. 

For any aspiring poker players who come across this I really feel that embedding yourself into a community like Blonde is an essential part of the development needed for overall greatness in ones field.


And I pledge now that 5% of all £10K+ scores this year will be fed back into the blonde community in some way or other - freerolls in DTD or into the DTD League or something!
So lets get some rungood together and bink something worth talking about!



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 03, 2012, 12:35:16 PM
lol good read :D

The 88 seems really bad, but sounds like you had alot of fun and glad you got another flag :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Leatherman on April 03, 2012, 09:57:11 PM
Well done on the cash an flag fella.. Are you playing this weekends Deepstack?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 04, 2012, 02:45:58 AM
lol good read :D

The 88 seems really bad, but sounds like you had alot of fun and glad you got another flag :)

Do you understand where I'm coming from with the 88's?  Its like I turn my hand into a range looking like JJ+/ AK and so his calling range should be JJ+ AQo+ against which Im in great shape.  Even though I have 88 here, I expect to be against 99/ 1010 so rarely that it's not a factor.

Maybe I'm over estimating the possibilities.....

Marks for effort and showing workings out?

Well done on the cash an flag fella.. Are you playing this weekends Deepstack?

Thanks, but tbh I won't be satisfied till I've FT'd one of these £300's+ this year and made my mark on it!


5% to blonde members!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 07, 2012, 02:21:43 AM
Mini report

Thursday 05 April

DTD150 sat
Played well and ran like god. Had 4-6x average the entire way through the tournament... then when 20 left and 11 seats i decide to put some pressure on the other two bigstacks at my table.  I 3bt SB K9o covering both, UTG folds and BTN decides to be a hero and peel.
Flop
KQ10
not bad, not amazing but we cbet 1/2pot as std, he calls.

Turn
Xo
Complete brick I think, figure the majority of his range will be 1pair here as i would expect him to raise that flop with strong hands to get it in.  I decide I can make him fold all of his hands except QQ, 1010 or AJ by check shoving turn.  And I've been seen to always have the nuts at showdown today.

He snaps. This is bad.

AJ... wp sir. nh, gg, etc etc.................

River
Who cares>??

We lose a 150k pot when average is 25k... wp john.  Just given up my 'locked' seat. Woulda been 3rd seat in 3 days.



[ ] learned to not bluff ever in these comps.


WPT Cash Grind

Did a session over teamviewer watching a guy from my study group (fitzy) and played a really solid session afterwards, began to climb back out of a few sessions in a row losing streak.

Mixing up my styles, trying some looser, some tighter, some more aggressive and some allowing people to hang themselves.  It's tough to work out the best style vs each OP but that's the point i guess.


Friday 06042012
Another session with fitzy but this time analysing a session where he hit his stop loss and had to quit.  After 2.5hours of going through it we realised that almost 50% of his losses were spew/ mistakes when you look at the right stats/ reads/ std tendancies at our levels.
These sessions are definitely the way to improve and work out what to be looking at stats wise, what to be doing as adjustments pre and post-flop... we even spent some time discussing note taking systems to suppliment our 'notecaddy' which we both have with our HEM2.

[X] Notecaddy is the mother****************bollux!
[X] Notecaddy is easy to use

Discussed with Pleno and we're going to do a 3way discussion sweating either fitzy or myself and im really looking forward to it, with P's direction I reckon he can steer us to get 'there' so much quicker than if we were alone!
100NL here I come!



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Interesting?!
Then watched an interesting video today on 5betting and how without a seriously aggressive history you actually don't want to 5bt  Kh Ks and ever get called! weird huh?

Turns out when you run the math that actually 5bt-ing and getting a fold is more +EV than getting called by any reasonable range, even if it includes QQ/JJ etc....

I'll give a rough and quick rundown of the math if i remember it correctly (please correct me)

open to 3x
3bt to 9x
4bt to 24x
5bt shove 100x

When you fold to the 4bt you're left with 91x
When you 5bt shove and he folds you win 124x  (his 24, your 100)
When you 5bt shove and he calls with QQ+ AQ+ he is 36.89% and therefore he 'owns' 37% of the 200x pot (his 100, our 100)
So he owns 75x and you own the other 125x of the pot.  So you win the same as if he folded.

As soon as you take AQo out of his range and make it AQs+, AKo+, QQ+ he now owns 41% and your losing to get KK's in pre.

Obviously if you have a dynamic where someone isnt folding AJ+, 10+ or wider then your looking at 31% or less for him.
But clearly this won't be common at micro or maybe even small stakes very often??

Definitely worth a ponder..... Seen some Nikachu stuff today and he's refreshingly light and honest about how being a 'pussy' tight nit is just so profitable when you use it to exploit your opponents acceptance of 'coolers'.


#discuss....







DTD150 today after I've picked up my new monitors from City link and I'll have a pic posted on here if I can,

- I7 processor,
- 8GB RAM
- 2TB WD Black HDD
- Radeon 6870 eyefinity GFX
- 3x HP LP2475w 24" monitors (sick! check em out here http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-LP2475w-display-widescreen-DisplayPort/dp/B001EI8TH8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333761488&sr=8-1)
- Microsoft 7000 ergonomic desktop
- Triple monitor stand (http://www.amazon.com/Ergotech-Triple-Horizontal-Monitor-100-D16-B03/dp/B001NPEC5A/ref=sr_1_1?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1333761604&sr=1-1)
- And a new cactus called Bob.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Euphorbia_Pentagona_1.jpg


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on April 07, 2012, 02:39:11 AM
nice mini report :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on April 07, 2012, 02:53:49 AM
Thursday 05 April
DTD150 sat
Played well and ran like god. Had 4-6x average the entire way through the tournament... then when 20 left and 11 seats i decide to put some pressure on the other two bigstacks at my table.  I 3bt SB K9o covering both, UTG folds and BTN decides to be a hero and peel.
Flop
KQ10
not bad, not amazing but we cbet 1/2pot as std, he calls.

Turn
Xo
Complete brick I think, figure the majority of his range will be 1pair here as i would expect him to raise that flop with strong hands to get it in.  I decide I can make him fold all of his hands except QQ, 1010 or AJ by check shoving turn.  And I've been seen to always have the nuts at showdown today.

He snaps. This is bad.

AJ... wp sir. nh, gg, etc etc.................

River
Who cares>??

We lose a 150k pot when average is 25k... wp john.  Just given up my 'locked' seat. Woulda been 3rd seat in 3 days.


(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac159/GIFsforhire/Facepalm/facepalm.gif)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Beaver808 on April 07, 2012, 03:29:37 AM
Thursday 05 April
DTD150 sat
Played well and ran like god. Had 4-6x average the entire way through the tournament... then when 20 left and 11 seats i decide to put some pressure on the other two bigstacks at my table.  I 3bt SB K9o covering both, UTG folds and BTN decides to be a hero and peel.
Flop
KQ10
not bad, not amazing but we cbet 1/2pot as std, he calls.

Turn
Xo


Complete brick I think, figure the majority of his range will be 1pair here as i would expect him to raise that flop with strong hands to get it in.  I decide I can make him fold all of his hands except QQ, 1010 or AJ by check shoving turn.  And I've been seen to always have the nuts at showdown today.

He snaps. This is bad.

AJ... wp sir. nh, gg, etc etc.................

River
Who cares>??

We lose a 150k pot when average is 25k... wp john.  Just given up my 'locked' seat. Woulda been 3rd seat in 3 days.


(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac159/GIFsforhire/Facepalm/facepalm.gif)

+1


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 08, 2012, 02:51:25 AM
So I went to get the monitors this morning from city-link as I'd paid for next day delivery so i could set up 'the beast' asap and then get grinding propa-loike innit bruv?!

I've attached some photos to show you the final setup, its beautiful, with just so much screen-age I can't even express it.

Took a while to sort out though as the computer was being a smart ass and arranging the monitors 3 1 2 which meant that the middle was the 'main' and it went smoothly to the right but to get to the left screen you had to go to the right hand side of the right monitor and then it would appear on the far left.
[X] a little bit tilting..

Now its sorted and to 'test' the resolution for poker I decided to open up as many tables on WPT as I could, at a current bankroll of $360ish that equates to 360/25 = 14 tables. This took one monitor and just went over to the second.  This proves when/ if I ever want to mass multi-table that it will be comfortable and easy to do so on one or two monitors and have a third for internet/ skype/ porn/ etc.... :D
Now to sit back, admire and say ahhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwwwwwww isn't IT amazing?
No longer than 30mins after getting IT ready I had to leave for the dtd150 £100k GTD and use one of my 2 available bullets to build a stack and get through to day 2!







DTD150
Due to the above setup and issues relating closely to parent like child abandonment issues I eventually arrived at DTD 15mins late-ish and bought in the 'magic goulder' as I owed him a few ££'s.  I then misheard my seat number and went to 43 seat 8, when in fact I should be in 43 seat 3.  I quickly change seats before I play a hand and look down at  Kc Kh otb.  Oh hello dere!

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First Hand
We raise when a could of people limp in front, and get 3 callers. 
Pot $1125
FLOP
8c 5s 4d  (or similar)

SB checks, MP checks, CO checks, we bet 225...
This was deliberately small, in order to squeeze value from all hands worse than ours, protect against raises on this board from any random pair thinking we have AK and to allow for some cheap hand reading when cold, first hand in.

SB raises to 850 and the other two fold.  Well I'm not folding, so I call.

Pot $2825
TURN
6h
SB checks and I'm thinking he has 8x or 99-QQ a lot here! So I bet 1600 to set up a 4-6k river bet hoping to get some curiosity first hand in. He calls.

Pot $6025
RIVER
Qd
SB snap leads for 1300 and we SNAP call.  He takes a few seconds and tentatively announces 'set' and shows  Qh Qs for a horrendously played set of Q's and looks like a right tool when he 'nervously' shows his top set.  Wp sir, gg.

[ ] Nice start...

- lets get back to our 10k stack and 25/50 blinds please.

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Cliffs
- We play pretty solid and notice we have a pretty call happy table, we learn this as we try to get one guy to fold a 7 on a  Kh 7d 4h 6s 3c when our  Jh 9h misses OOP.  He calls the pot bet and we say nice call sir.

- We also lose with an overpair w/spade vs  UTG 4s 5s on a  9s 6s 2s  8h 6d.  Must be nice to raise first hand he plays UTG then flop a flush and get paid?!

- Lose a bunch more small pots and we're down to 7k pretty quickly.  Kept going over hands, realizing I played them as well as possible and I still have X amount of bb's.

- Eventually we find a value hand in the old  Ad Ahrt and raise UTG, we get the hero from earlier (QQ 'pot controller') in UTG+2 and a few others, its looking scary until the  Aspades Qd 3c flop when we decide to cbet/ give up in order to get value, but our 'hero' comes along so quickly on the flop we're fairly sure he has that final A! (yelp of yay!)
We decide to take his 'pot controlling' skills to school and bet pot on turn and he realizes this will create a 1/3 pot river bet so just sets us in! We snap with the nuts and he's drawing dead to give us a double up to 16K, tyvm sir, wp again.

- Carry on playing pretty solid but struggling to play or win many hands.  Instead chatting a lot to Jonny Chapman a very nice young man who used to work at DTD as a dealer but is now the hospitality manager for the Pokerstars Supernova/ Supernova Elite players.... MBN sir, sweet job.

- Eventually we've folded our way through a few levels and we're rocking a 30bb stack... we're ready for <30bb poker and have been working on that part of my game a lot recently, especially how long a short stack can last when played properly.  So I'm ready for this and have a great table for it as they won't call correctly and I'll get some silly folds and insane double up's vs different villains.

- We make a few shoves n keep ourselves around the 22-28bb mark but are struggling to find value hands....

WHEN

- We find the QQ's in CO and have had the table 'captain' who has won every pot and has around 50K (avg like 17K) limping into every pot.  We decide to 4.5x it here (1650) and he obv limp calls.

$4300ish
FLOP
256r
He checks, we bet 1425 and he calls... we do this to set up a turn shove of almost pot... figuring he'll think we're bluffing when we bet this big on a turn card, and we pray for no A no K please.

$7150
TURN
4o
He checks again and we take 20 seconds then shove our remaining 5400 and he calls quickly.

Our QQ are up against the mighty, strong, massive, common limp calling- check calling             8 2o!
(well this is pretty sweet, just need no 2, 3, or 8 please dealer)

$17950
RIVER
3o
CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP it up and give that nice young man his soldiers back please dealer man, we've signed a peace treaty on this hand and would like to share it evenly.
I didn't say a word, no tilt, just swallowed the unfortunate reality of tournament poker and tried to quickly refocus and get it in again as good soon!



[ ] We got it in good
[X] We got it in soon-ish..
[X] I genuinely didn't tilt as a result of this hand, I just got back 'to the grind' - need another 'value' hand please Mr Dealer - man.




A level or so later after a few standard shoves with 15-22bb's we find ourselves distracted by some off table chat, peel the  Jc 8c in the bb and see Jonny has min raised in early-ish position.  Now we haven't been messing with him mainly because he's played pretty tight and therefore will have a strong range very often.  For whatever reason I thought he would be folding plenty here and decided to shove my 14bb's into the middle, he snaps and we're in an all in for almost 30K with very little equity vs KK.

Woops... in retrospect this was a 'blowup' of somekind.  I actually think I could have won the hand if I played it like this.....

Flop
Ts  7c 6s

Turn
Qc

River
4s

If I min3bt pre, checked the flop (think this woulda freaked him out) then bet small on turn + shove river... or to shove turn.
This is because if i min 3bt and he just calls (probably good idea since my min3bt will be KK+) then when I check that board I don't think he think's I'm ever giving up, ever! So by turn I can only really have QQ (now a set), KK (same hand) or AA that I would be playing such a 'small' pot vs his tight range.

Alternatively I could have just folded pre and carried on shoving my ever shortening stack in good spots vs villains that will fold and call incorrectly and more than likely get myself into a good spot to double up and then play my way through the rest of the day.

[X] My tournament discipline is getting so much better every single time I play atm.
[X] Made one mistake today
[X] It cost me my tournament
[ ] Tournaments are an easy game



So we continue to battle onto our first 'major' DTD final table.  Next time pls.

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DTD UKIPT SAT
I decided to try my play at a live sat for the £1Million GTD UKIPT at DTD next week in a £56 Re-Entry tournament, I won the first two hands in my first buyin and no more....
And only played one hand of the second @ 400/800 with 10K I get all in pre flop with  Kh Qd vs  Kc Jd and  Jc Js... for a 3 way 35K aipf.
[ ] I won the 'flip'.



After that I decided enough was enough and despite often being one of the best players on any of the 50/1 cash tables and often a strongly ++EV player on the 1/2 or 1/3 tables I am not rolled for them atm and as such refuse to play, yet!

When I am rolled for them you better watch out because I will be crushing them at every opportunity! AGoulder an all!




So here I am at home on 'the beast' and enjoying her simple pleasures, I'm going to crack out the Warcraft: Frozen Throne mini games online for a bit and have fun building some towers or levelling up a hero or two....

Night all, hope you run good and GL to Jonny Chapman and our 5% swap..... 211K going into tomorrow and I believe we're a top10 chipstack.








Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 08, 2012, 11:47:25 PM
Objectives refresh....

It came to my attention today that these are my objectives for this 'year':

[ ] I want to end the year at 50nl 6max minimum, would like to be beating 100nl but that is a big jump and beating 50nl hu 'regs'
[ ] To have been on my first Vegas trip (I have airmiles to spend).
[ ] To be working with my friends in our discussion group to help us all focus on real goals and work togther to get there.
[ ] Have made my first £10k+ score & manditory hendon flag.
[ ] Have submitted and had accepted a 50k+ sample as a result of no1 above and to be negotiating a 'cash sponsorship' deal.


Well so far this year...
[X] Pleno (Patrick Leonard) has approached me to sponsor me through the 6max cash levels, starting at 25nl and working up to 100/200nl by the years end.
[X] Sorted out my hendon mob and realised I actually had a few accounts already, have brought them together, and submitted a photo.
[X] Got a new Grind PC to really cement my long term commitment to online poker.
[X] Back in the gym and losing weight, while toning and getting healthy!
[X] Got an amazing girlfriend who treats me amazingly and is well worth the effort! Thanks Charlene.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 09, 2012, 04:04:55 AM
Just had my first 'rough' online session where we lost 5.5bi's and hit our 5b STOP LOSS... which was a shame.

Actually I went all the way down to -4.5bi's then all the way back up to -1bi and then back down again so bit of a roller coaster.

I've scanned through the hands and I think about 70% was 'fine'.. we officially ran 4bi's under EV..
Feel like I played great and definitely wasn't affected by being in the red the whole session, it made a difference as I 'felt' it the whole time but i defiinitely didnt make bad decisions because of it.  Might post some in PHA but I've already spoken to my discussion group who seem to think i made some great folds.

I will have another look at this tomorrow and work out some revises aims.

Guess I should have 'pay off PC with winnings' in there somewhere!

Shame Charlene isn't here, feel like we could finish the night off well....


Better load up some Counterstrike : Source or WC3 Frozen Throne I guess.


:D



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 10, 2012, 02:24:41 AM
Just had a session with Pads n Fitzy (50nl reg) with me playing 25NL and then going over yesterdays session.

Today there was a bunch of small things that will add up that pads mentioned.  They should be easy to introduce and adopt.. most of them are just to do with 'tightening' bolts in my game.  But despite being battered by them MORALE IS HIGH!

I really feel like these small tweaks will make massive differences - having much stronger ranges in certain spots more often will also make them easier to play.


Didn't get a UKIPT seat tonight... so going to have to speak to people and arrange to sell pieces tomorrow.

For anyone interested, I will be putting up about 1/2 myself...  hopefully those that know me on here can vouch. :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: scotty77 on April 10, 2012, 02:25:48 AM
book me 10!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on April 10, 2012, 02:27:49 AM
I know Fitzy from when I used to post on pokertube (3 years back) and from his run in UKIPT notts last year - met him on the cash tables a few weeks back - nice lad, good player. Get him to start posting on here!



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 10, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
book me 10!

done, tyty

I know Fitzy from when I used to post on pokertube (3 years back) and from his run in UKIPT notts last year - met him on the cash tables a few weeks back - nice lad, good player. Get him to start posting on here!

Yeah, we have suprisingly similar attitudes and opinions... there are a few key differences but we're helping each other.

The session yesterday I think plugged some really 'easy' leaks as long as I can keep it up and make the additions work for me.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on April 10, 2012, 08:57:16 PM
What day are you planning to play?
Looking forward to your reports and think you are going to do well, just make sure you don't overthink spots too much!?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 10, 2012, 11:32:40 PM
I know Fitzy from when I used to post on pokertube (3 years back) and from his run in UKIPT notts last year - met him on the cash tables a few weeks back - nice lad, good player. Get him to start posting on here!




hes in stable pleno and weirdly we spoke about you yesterday and he had no clue who you were. Guy is a really nice kid and improving alot as a player.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 11, 2012, 12:27:04 AM
Who is WPIL?

I'm playing today - Day 1A, so gl me! love the structure, played in Newcastle last year but made a bit of a mess of it.  Had a tough 2nd table i think, but definitely made it hard for myself.

I've done a lot of work recently on my short stack game and good reshove/ open shove ranges.  So figure I should be able to nurse a short stack well vs field if i can keep focus.

I'm easily 10x the player i was then and think so much better down streets, with plans and working on player types.

Literally in the best poker shape of my life... Just a shame I've hit my cash stop loss again today.. .
So thats 2 days in a row, first time yesterday, copied today. hmph!


Going to go over it with fitzy to look for mistakes, think about half were mistakes or 'thin' shoves... like
Raise, bet, bet, raise 9d 7d on

 9c  6d 5d    Ahrt   9h

???


However I'm currently getting close to a 'lock' for a seat in tonights DTD UKIPT satellite, finally!
glme


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 11, 2012, 01:32:53 AM
Well that sucks....

for the 4th time in the last week, JimiJimi77 has got all in pre flop vs me with 30% and got there EVERY TIME!

We get in AK vs AQ with 14 left and he insta flops a Q.
Then he proceeds to tell me 'Ul, I've won E1400 this week'..................... uhhh.... well........ that is very nice for you sir.

I realise that Colin is a very nice guy and a pleasure to chat to, but i am a little annoyed at his rungood vs specifically me recently is a little frustrating.

So we don't get a seat and we've effectively paid more in satellites than it costs to play... and now only have 60%.  Hmmm.....

Still love the game, but this is a fair frustration i think.  This is the reason i play these but nvm.



We then get in 3.5bb's with K6o vs A2o and bink a 6.  Up to 8bb's and find A10ss utg and shove, running straight into AA's of course.
We flop a flush draw, turn a straight draw to chop and river not enough to qualify to beat a 1 pair hand.
Nevermind, next time im sure.

Gl JimiJimi77 in your UKIPT... I hope you do something with my entries.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on April 11, 2012, 04:23:58 AM
Pmsl. As Colin would say "unlucky son"


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Leatherman on April 11, 2012, 07:38:21 AM
Pmsl. As Colin would say "unlucky son"

 ;D <3 Colin

30% is huge for Him, you don't go winning two deepstacks without knowing how to get there..  ;)

Good Luck today fella..  ;kneelsucker;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Eso Kral on April 11, 2012, 09:34:35 AM
Pmsl. As Colin would say "unlucky son"
When Colin clicked Allin I wonder if he rubs his tummy like he does live and say "never let me down yet"???

TBF John he is blessed in the "get there dept"


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 12, 2012, 02:42:43 AM
Currently in a service station after playing the best day of tournament poker in my life.  I made a mistake getting in AQ vs K10 aipf.. When the tilting dude limp jams 2x avg stack.

Obv I crush his range, but I dont need to risk my stack in this spot in future.. Obv deserved the win but when has that ever mattered. I literally crushed all my tables today and feel super good about my game going forward.. Few is tweaks here and there and I think I'll be crushing properly.... Tune of 5figs+ please.....


Trip report tomorrow obv.

Currently waiting for kosh, Gary and Reynolds to finish doing their bollux on the fruities...
[ ] I understand fruit machine gaming....

Fmfl.


JB


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on April 12, 2012, 03:47:57 AM
Currently in a service station after playing the best day of tournament poker in my life.  I made a mistake getting in AQ vs K10 aipf.. When the tilting dude limp jams 2x avg stack.

Obv I crush his range, but I dont need to risk my stack in this spot in future.. Obv deserved the win but when has that ever mattered. I literally crushed all my tables today and feel super good about my game going forward.. Few is tweaks here and there and I think I'll be crushing properly.... Tune of 5figs+ please.....


Trip report tomorrow obv.

Currently waiting for kosh, Gary and Reynolds to finish doing their bollux on the fruities...
[ ] I understand fruit machine gaming....

Fmfl.


JB
Play the one that some guy stuck £4 grand in tonight. Wtf is wrong with some peeps.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 12, 2012, 04:49:48 AM
Just made some notes so that I can do a report and my mind hasn't turned into mush by lunch.

Still really happy with the way I played, think tbh I should look to get backed for live stuff.  Might need some more work first, not sure.  

Either way, a couple of people from my tables came up to me after the AQ hand, said UL and they thought I crushed the game super hard today (with them in it) and that was nice.  Marc Goodwin seems great, added on FB.

Busted the biggest comp I've ever played after running great and playing awesome and somehow I don't have any chips or a seat into day2.... ? errrr what now?



Meh... I'm not even caring, just want to get back to grinding 25NL and get winning there.... then look to satellite into the next 'decent' live tournament.  

#seriouslylovingthegame!




Pictures attached for genuine degeneracy.... This is Adam Reynolds, Gary Banks, and Kourosh Radfar.... who decided to divert after we stopped at the service station at 2am.... Thanks lads... appreciate it with my 9am wakeup.
(I just don't understand slotties, they all did their bollux and loved it...?)

Then Adam's satnav didn't work and he's just come to my house and literally taken mine, saying he'll buy me a new one... sending me money online instead of driving it back. Lolz....
#ballinsoharditsridic


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 12, 2012, 04:53:34 AM
[ ] they noticed me taking the photos....


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rbc_mike on April 12, 2012, 10:27:45 AM
long time stalker of this diary, just thought I'd let you know that it's a great read, keep the in-depth trip reports coming and go and crush some more 25NL :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 12, 2012, 12:28:11 PM
finally met you yesterday, was cool - you look exactly as much of a spewbox as I thought you would lol


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 12, 2012, 05:11:18 PM
long time stalker of this diary, just thought I'd let you know that it's a great read, keep the in-depth trip reports coming and go and crush some more 25NL :)
Thanks.... In all seriousness, can each stalker please just post 1 comment... IT makes a MASSIVE difference to me when writing it to know people actually read it.

I am doing this for myself, so i have my own in depth thought processes when i look back, but it is a massive ++++ to me to know people read it. (not super confident in the ol' writing skills)

finally met you yesterday, was cool - you look exactly as much of a spewbox as I thought you would lol

Yes mate and you look exactly how i thought you would.... a super genius who's dressed by his mom and probably has a 3fig IQ with a 2 at the start, but I question you're ability to make beans on toast! pics or it didn't happen!
(would love to pic your brains sometime about basic beginnings in the O-game as i'd like to enter at the lowest stakes... but obv need to learn to play Holdem properly first.)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Lucky on April 12, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
Interesting diary John.   Shame our 1st table broke early yesterday  ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Beaver808 on April 12, 2012, 09:59:06 PM
Great read so far, absolutely love it!!

Hopefully won't be too long now before I'm up in the big leagues with you.

[ ] had time to crush the 4NL tables this week...


Keep up the diary, I'll be tuning in for updates!!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on April 13, 2012, 08:12:22 AM
Currently in a service station after playing the best day of tournament poker in my life.  I made a mistake getting in AQ vs K10 aipf.. When the tilting dude limp jams 2x avg stack.

Obv I crush his range, but I dont need to risk my stack in this spot in future.. Obv deserved the win but when has that ever mattered. I literally crushed all my tables today and feel super good about my game going forward.. Few is tweaks here and there and I think I'll be crushing properly.... Tune of 5figs+

JB

Good to say hi on Wednesday John. Will do my best to avoid you at the tables and to say hi and chat away from them in future.

The AQ hand, a mistake?




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: DungBeetle on April 13, 2012, 12:27:13 PM
Helllo - really enjoy reading this diary so keep it up!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on April 13, 2012, 02:58:33 PM
Currently in a service station after playing the best day of tournament poker in my life.  I made a mistake getting in AQ vs K10 aipf.. When the tilting dude limp jams 2x avg stack.

Obv I crush his range, but I dont need to risk my stack in this spot in future.. Obv deserved the win but when has that ever mattered. I literally crushed all my tables today and feel super good about my game going forward.. Few is tweaks here and there and I think I'll be crushing properly.... Tune of 5figs+ please.....


Trip report tomorrow obv.

Currently waiting for kosh, Gary and Reynolds to finish doing their bollux on the fruities...
[ ] I understand fruit machine gaming....

Fmfl.


JB
Play the one that some guy stuck £4 grand in tonight. Wtf is wrong with some peeps.
Err take that back about bandit players. Turns out it was most likely Paul Newey who has apperently has bought into the £million buy in game.  Lol hold my plums hit my nudge button


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 01:56:24 AM
UKIPT Trip Report

This is a strange one, this will be a report of the best played day of tournament poker in my life so far.  We ran good having lots of premiums - AAx 3, KKx 2, QQx 2, JJx 2, a bunch of AK/ AQ and AJ hands.... and we had two really good tables.  We did have good players on our tables, Kevin Iacofano being the best.  But we managed to crush him in most pots and generally took over to crush both tables.


However, I have 0 chips going into day 2.


So, how did this all happen, how did we get up to double average in level 4/5? how did we have 62% of the Day 1A chip lead? how did we bust........


(im going to try and condense this as much as possible, but you know that probably still means a 1000word report)

Day 1A - Wednesday 11 April 2012
We start on table 48, seat 3, arriving 30minutes late with fellow degenerates Kourosh Radfar, Adam Reynolds and Gary Banks.  We were late because apparently Adam can't follow a satnav and get to Kosh's house in MK in time.

Thanks to both Alex and Nicola from DTD for sorting out my entry, I used some online DTD seats and grouped them together along with cash to buy in.  Sounds like a sweet idea and I'll be doing that for the bigger comps if i can't satellite directly.

We get to the table and quickly find our table draw on blonde, then hendon mob the few we think might need it from first impressions.  Turns out we're correct and we have Kevin Iacofano two to our left, with Alan McBride on our direct left.  This is pretty sigh since Kevin looks like a solid winning MTT player, both live and online.. which could spell trouble for us down the line.  I know Alan reads this but I will be honest and say that I'm not that fussed with him having position on me as I know he won't mess with me enough to make it a problem.  He knows I can turn up with a hand, sometimes.. but he just won't abuse me enough imho.  Other than this we have two players to our right I'm not really sure about, one seems weak-passive-bad and the other tight-aggressive but weak postflop (I don't think he knows when to stop betting).

We're pretty happy with this and the rest of the table and start off the day thinking I will be playing premium hands only while paying a LOT of attention to the players themselves.  After watching a lot of WSOP ME 2011 I noticed how much attention Ben Lamb payed to his opponents and how he stared them down to see the tiny things they do.  I decide I will try this to spot everything I can, really taking my time when I need to - I know some people laugh it off "are you trying to read me superstar?" but they're still not comfortable with it.

We get off and find a few chips have changed hands already but not much. 


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1st hand
Td Ts - we call the open from the guy on our right.. Alan comes along too and we 3 see

Flop
9h 4h 2h

The OR now checks and I don't hate this board, Alan will never have my pair beat on its own here.. (i.e. JJ+) but obviously it is a scary board.
I bet and Alan 2.5x's me... this I don't like at all as I put his range on sets/  Ahrt 9s type hands or made flushes (but think he would flat those when OR checks - he should).

I take a little while and decide to call the flop bet but give up if Alan starts piling money in.

Turn
5c

I check and Alan quickly checks behind... (hmmm...  Ahrt perhaps? I'm not sure if he raises the flop tho... hmmmm...)

River
6h (or similar)

I check knowing that if I bet here I only get him to fold his flopped sets... and that's a small range, so we'll just give up here.. Alan checks back and shows me  4c 4d for the old set-a-rooo...... (what a suprise)

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2nd hand
By this time I've played a few small pots and lost all 4, this was actually starting to get on my nerves... (its like 1 hour John, grow the F**k up!) and I decided the next good spot vs the guys on my right who seemed to be opening their buttons a lot, I would 3bt a 'suitable hand'.

We find  Aspades 9d and the CO opens when its our SB, we 3bt, Alan folds and the OR calls.

Flop
 Ac  6d 2s  (or similar)

We cbet and he 'annoyedly' folds... (just had the best hand - people don't fold enough to 3bts pre its ridiculous).


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3rd hand
This is an interesting one... we notice that the guy two to our right, who has finalled or won something of note, can't remember what.  But he's terrible.. and he's to our right... so we're going to get something going with him and give him a pounding! (he's the guy in hand2)

He's lost a bunch more pots than me and only has like 7-9k and opens, we 3bt and everyone folds.. he sigh folds.

NEXT HAND
He opens UTG again to 400 and we 3bt again to 1100..  Kc Js... To me, this looks sickly strong and the rest of the table agree, it snap folds round to the SB who was an empty seat until recently and this dude now decides to make it 2500, the UTG angry folds and I take some time.... A LOT of time...  I give him the 'ben lamb stare' for a good 3-4minutes while I work out stack sizes on flop, turn, river and how the hand might play out a few times.. in my head.  I want to call as its close to min and we have position and close to 4-2-1 SPR on flop...

After the four minutes of watching and staring him down, he doesn't like it but he's relaxed and doing the kinds of chip tricks he couldn't be doing if at all uneasy about this situation... I take the low variance route and fold, but make a note to be wary of him and pay more attention to him when he's in pots in future.  We'll call him aggro-fish from now on as he comes up later.


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4th Hand
We open  Ahrt Kd in CO and Alan flats behind, Kevin comes along and the blinds fold.  This is a strange one, but knowing what Alan is like I actually favour my position and plan to check call about 99% of flops vs Kev but re-evaluate vs Alan as I'll have Kev's info by then.

Flop
 Kc Qd 3s

I check, Alan checks and Kev decides to bet 1/2pot ish...  I'm obviously not folding and raising is terrible, inflating this pot oop vs a competent villain who WILL value-cut three streets with worse now we've checked.  Alan folds.

Turn
 9s

I check again and Kev bets slightly larger this time, imho there is very little he can value bet three streets with here that he would flat pre.  So I'm now calling down on any river except a Q automatically, but probably still calling on a Q.

River
 Tc

This is a beautiful card imo as I feel he will now continue with 100% of his turn bluffs and there are so few J's he would bet the flop with... I'm thinking KJ and QJ exactly.

I check, he bets and I snap.  He tentatively turns over the  4c 5c and we have extracted a nice 6k from the best player at the table, started to establish a 'dont mess with me kid' air between us and this really gets me going...

From this point on I play my A game for the rest of the day.


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5th Hand
We don't play much for an orbit or two and then the Aggro-fish from earlier in seat 7 opens in early position.. I find Ahrt Qc and flat, it folds round and we're HU with position.

Flop
 Kc Js Tc

Well that's a pretty good flop, lets hope he has a pair!
He cbet's 400 into 2000 and this weirds me out a little bit... Why is he betting so small? What does he want me to do? How can I get stacks in by the river?

I figure I will find out on the turn whether or not he's going to bet one or three times, so I flat... I can always dictate pot size on the turn.

Turn
 7h

Is there a better card in the deck, seriously?  What a beautiful brick, and he now bets 1000 into 2.8k... so he is going to bet the river...... guess I need another brick please dealer man.

River
 2s

O M G... that is puuuurrrrrfect.

He bets 2k from his 9k and I take some time.... then set him in...  He snaps and proudly shows the K10o.....
WP sir, please leave your chips and don't let the ego hit you on the way out.  Thanks for the donation and the table CL, JOHN BLACK IS HERE TO STAY!


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We get moved tables and have about 30K and we're now in position on Kev I, have Marc Goodwin 3 to our left, opposite.

The table looks pretty soft on first approach and I quickly see how soft.  The guy on our left is a punk kid who has to have satellited and clearly has no idea what game we're playing, the guy on his left is playing super super small ball and not in a good way.  We have some weeded, superhigh spazztard on our right, then Kev and a China-fish next to him with super nits inbetween him and Goodwin.

Happy f*kin days then...

A few hands in and this table is very different.. they are limping all over the shop, mostly calling when raised and I will not be able to isolate fish as easily... have to use my chips to be patient then.

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6th Hand
We find Kd Kc and the China-fish has limped UTG (so far its always been Ax suited or AJ/A10), we decide to make him pay and makeit 5x or something silly, folds to him and he flicks it in.

Flop
 Ac Jd Tc

He checks and we check back...

Turn
 6c

He checks again and we decide that we can get value from a lot of hands, if he raises we may call a small one to flush/ straight him.. but we make it super small - we bet like 1100 into 4500 and he calls.

River
 2d   (or some similar brick)

He donks 1500 into the now 6700 pot and we flick in the call for exact information.. knowing it won't disclose our hand if we're correct.  He tables the Aspades Jh and we fold gracefully.  However, I did say something to him as he took ages to turn his hand over... I think i said something like "can you turn your hand over quicker in future please?".  He laughs it off and we carry on.

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7th Hand
Vs the same China-fish an orbit or so later we find those magical  Ahrt Aspades and he's limped...

We make it 5x again and the super small baller to our left who has donked most of his stack off calls for 1/3 of his stack, back to the CF and this time he raises!
YES!.. I am pretty sure he's not doing this as a complete bluff... and I'm trying to work out the best way to get the moneys in..  The guy inbetween with a tiny stack makes life hard, I know he's not folding but if i flat and he shoves its not enough for me to re-raise...........

I know he won't think I have AA's if I 4bt, he's going to think I just think he's FOS and want it HU vs the shortie....

So I 4bt to 7200 and the shorie flicks his stack in.... then CF a little dumbstruck doesn't want to fold and decides to flick in the 7.2k out of his 27k stack.... (vwp sir...)  I'm hoping for a 10xx or Axx flop, because I think he will often have broadways in his range.. maybe even the final A... but if its 9 high he's definitely going broke with 10's+ vs me... that is a certainty!

Flop
 Ks 3c 2s

Its obviously a good flop for my hand, but bad for stacking him... he takes a long time then checks.  I cbet 7500 and it looks like he puked in his own mouth as he has to fold.

The shortie turns over his hand and he has something ridiculous.. something that needs runner runner like 78o or something... wp sir.

Turn and River irrelevant and we scoop a nice pot to start getting over 30k, average is about 18k or something...

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8th Hand
Another orbit or so and its the last hand before the break.. we've raise and taken a pot or two, and the CF limps again...

We find 99 and 5x again.. everyone folds and its HU again with position.  <3 Live poker!

Flop
6c 4s 3h

He donks for 1/2 pot bet.. we call.

Turn
9h

He checks and we bet big, something like 3/4 pot.... he takes some time and calls.

River
8s

He donks for 1/2pot and I sigh a little... I know I can never get stacks in here now...  It's not that I can't raise for value.. its that he will never call me with the hands that I beat... I'm sure he folds everything except straights.

I flat and he shows me the  6d 7c for a superbly played hand... wp sir. Thanks for the 10k donation.

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Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 01:56:46 AM
(had to copy n paste because this was too long for the message box - over 20000 characters apparently)



9th Hand
We have calmed down after the break and since we now have 40K and a big lead on everyone at the table, only one of the fish next to CF has around 35K but hasn't shifted any in the whole time I've been at the table, so he can keep his chips warm until the blinds get big and I take them that way.

Kevin Iacofano clearly notices I have taken my foot off the pedal and starts opening 2-3times/ orbit for a while...

Eventually I find a hand I want to play vs him and 3bt the btn... I know he won't want to peel here very often.  I've had the better of him so far in our duel (I've had the better starting hands tbh) and as my first 3bt I don't think he will assume I'm messing around here ever...
I have the mighty  3s 5s of course.....

And then the punk to our left cold calls from the small blind - WTF?!  Excuse me.... sir - are you freaking crazy?  Well Kev clearly freaks out a little and folds.

This is all taken away and the worries about AA or KK etc are quickly put away with the following flop.

Flop
3c 3d 3h

Well I guess that's a good flop...  I think he has a big pair... and I errr.... I have.... errr............ quads?????  That's pretty high up on the hand ranking chart that I remember.

The punk donks into us for 3k into 5.5k ish... I don't see much point raising here, he could spazz shove but I'm not sure...

Turn
Kd

He donks into us again... for 6k (from 22k) now I know he's a punk-spazz but he 'could' have a K.... I freaking hope so...  I make it 14K and he snap folds  6h 6s face up, huffing and puffing.... WP sir... you are a poker genius.

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10th Hand
This hand is set-up by some of the previous hands with CF and there's a new guy to our left after the AA's hand.  He looks comfortable at the table, had about 35K in chips when he came, has lost a few though.

Anyways, he's seen me ISO the CF a LOT and decides to do something about it.

CF limps UTG and I open Ac Kd to 5x, then the Scottish 'wannabe' to our left now 3bts pretty standard size wise.  CF folds and I take some time, work out that I think he will 5bt shove some % and we're snapping that.. so we decide to 4bt (he didn't see our previous one being AA's).

He takes a little time and calls oop... again vwp sir.

Flop
Ks 9s 4s

He checks and I decide to let one roll off here, figuring he'll own himself with any Kx on the turn and may bluff/ bet any pair...

Turn
6c

He now comes out betting 10k from his 27K and I have a little think... I want to make this look as bluffy as possible, but effectively want to get the money in now so that his random spades don't get a free river to shove into me.  I shove and he snap folds... fuming and SUPER TILTED he runs away from the table.

It was so funny watching this guy after this hand... I have been in these shoes before, and he clearly is fuming he's given away like 2/5 of his stack with no showdown and I'm now getting up and up to 50K and beyond....

The table are clearly frustrated that noone is getting the better of me, I've folded oop when I've been 3bt as they're not doing it enough to make it a problem.. I'm still opening at least 2 hands/ orbit and just breeding chips in front of them.

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11th Hand
Kev opens the gun and we find  Jc Js, we flat and the punk behind decides to squeeze to 3.2K... he's still tilting from previous hands with me, but I'm loving this raise.  It's going to get everyone else to fold everything except QQ+ and Kev will have to be honest in front of me.. Kev folds and we are HU.
Basically I get the pot HU vs the punk with a good hand... yes please!

Flop
Th 5h 3s

I check, he bets like 6K or something and we decide to call...

Turn
 Jh

Pretty great card imo, obviously it makes it hard for him to have top pair.. but if somehow he has QQ+ with a heart, we're going to get it all! and if he's thinking I have AQ/ AK then he will keep firing as well.

I check, he bets 12K (from 29Kish) and I call..

River
Ts

I figure he's going to bet all his value hands, as imo he either has air... a T or an overpair... he should be betting all of this and he has a perfect 1/2pot shove for like 16K i think.

I check... and he sigh checks back with  Ahrt  Jd.... F*ck... If i shove the turn he would have called the rest for sure...
(think this was a small mistake.. maybe my only value one all day)

Turns out this hand makes the pokerstars blog and apparently I scoop the pot looking so uninterested and nonchalant that they give me an 'award'. :D #chillingwhenwinning

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#crushingthenoobsattheeasygame!

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12th + 13th Hands - the two most important hands I've ever played so far.
These are the biggies... these are the CL Day1A hands...

So, we're in SB and its folded to the button, he's the weeded up, ravemusicblaring, possibly drugged up, spazztard who did come to the table with a lot of chips but hasn't played much since.

The BB 'punk' isn't there and the btn min opens... the few times he has opened he has made it 3-4x and I'm 100% sure he's on the steal. I figure that I can play  9c 7s profitably vs him here as I plan to Craise a lot of flops and turns... and take this away from him 80%+ of the time.

FLOP
Tc 7c 3s

I check, he bets pretty small (imo still indicative of a bluff) and I decide to call... allowing him to barrel once more, I'm going to Craise most turns..

Turn
Ac

He could hit this, but more importantly I think this is the PERFECT card for him to now try turn and river barrels and we're going to cc, cc.  This not only stops us losing a lot the few times he does have an A but more importantly its just going to get so much more value.
Obviously we have flush draw now and that will allow us to call much easier on 1/4 of rivers.

We check, he now bets a little bigger... almost 1/2pot... we 'sigh' call..... :D :D :D

River
Kc

This is a pretty sweet river, we are only beat by two cards and if he has those, nice runout... I think he's going to bluff this river 100% and decide to cc.
I check and he bets almost full pot, for 15K.... I SNAP call and he tentatively shows the  Kh 8d.... I show my 9c and he literally EXPLODES.
His face instantly drips.. he's buzzing in his seat, i can hear his pulse from seat 1 (he's in 9) and I can see his brain melting out of his ears onto his chips.

I FEEL AMAZING! This is what I've learned, this is how it feels.... This is me, John Black, the poker player......
I know this seems ridiculous to read, I know this makes me sound like a tool... but this advert is literally 'it' for this moment in my poker life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVq-DkftWBc
(sorry mods if this is against the rules.. but its needed).


And now the hand... the one that is tearing my poker friends into two groups as to whether I'm a genius or an idiot.


Why I was almost the CL Day 1A of UKIPT Nottingham 2012.... almost.

The very next hand the CF limps and then the spazztard now limps again... We find Ahrt Qc and ISO again to 4x and it folds around... the CF folds (finally learn his lesson?) and the spazztard now shoves.... for 60K or something.

Its 300/600, there's 1200 in limps and I make is 2800, now this guy wants to ship in his remaining 55K - I think it was 52.5K to call (stuck in my mind for some reason).

(OMG - I just had a blue screen of death and my computer shut down.... I literally sat here quietly... trying to work out how to react.)  I thought I'd lost everything above..........


So this is what goes through my head:-
- I know I'm ahead... 100% certain.
- he opens all his pairs and big A's for a raise
- so this dude literally has Ax, Kx, or Qx, all the time... and maybe occasionally a random 45ss....
- vs that range we have to call... we crush his Ax and Qx range...
- we're a 62/38 vs the rest.. and he never has pairs!
- IF we lose, we have 40K (avg is 37K)
- however the chips go to our direct right... so we can get them back
- we're on a table that won't get broken for the rest of the day
- we're crushing the table and no one will even try to bluff us after this
- Do we need to take the risk? do we need to get into this monstrously high variance spot?

- Do we want to win the UKIPT Nottingham, or just mincash?

Win = take the edges + rungood...

but if we win... we're on like 160/170K or something ridiculous..

We will be Day1A CL and have a super soft table to finish the day on, probably finishing the day with 200K+..... We will be Day1A CL in the biggest competition the UK has ever held.


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Took me 30 seconds to slide the call in.... the entire table 'breath in' and he fuming slaps his  Kh Td on the table.

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Its 62/38... 62% of the time we're CL in UKIPT Notts, now I'm a much cooler cucumber at the table these days, the 11th hand above shows this, but I had to stand up to watch this one...

This was the biggest pot in 'potential value' that I've ever been involved in.. and I'm ahead... and I need to hold.












 Ks in the window......


And we do not improve.


I take it really well, morale is high and I'm bouncing off the ceiling.... I go and find Adam Reynolds who is on the cash tables apparently being a fish and giving Mitch some moneyz for fun.

Back to it then... back to the 'grind'.


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I took it super well, no tilt at all and I get straight back on the horse.. raising and taking the next hand....

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Final few, I promise.

- I get back up to 60K pretty quickly, working hard and making a few small plays and some thin-ish value bets.

- We find  Ac Ahrt again on the btn and Kev Iacofano opens in middle position.. he hasn't been opening that much of late and this will be the nth time we've 3bt him from the button.. so we're expecting some action.  But he snap folds.

- We then tighten up a little, trying to grind our way through to Day2.

- After a few orbits we open 44 UTG and get shoved on by an older guy who has just been moved to our table, its 12K to call and i opened for 2200 or something.. there's like 6K dead money so I call... (a mistake i know, the only one all day I think) and we're up against 99.  We lose and we're down to 50K ish... (50K avg now)

- We then open 66 UTG and fold to the 15K shove this time.... but he had 44's.... FFS!

- Kev Iacofano opens the button and we find  7s 2h in the BB, we take a lot of time (as we have with real hands) and 3bt pretty big.  I know he's not going to assume its a bluff, ever... he's going to rationale that I don't want to play the pot oop vs him.. and that this is the first time I've gotten cheeky all day oop.  He folds and I declare "its good for the game boys..." and show.

- Few more hands and we're chipping back up to 55-60K

- Then we get KK in the SB and the punk kid 3bt our open... we shove and he snaps saying "I hope you've got that 72o again..."
and shows us his A7o.  He flops an A and we're on life support of about 28K.

- Our next open gets 3bt by him again and we fold KQo.

- Eventually we find A7o on the button and its folded to us... we shove and the punk finds AQo in the SB....
Is this even normal???
We do not find a 7... and we are out.




I feel like I played the best poker I ever have, I definitely ran good in some sweet spots... might have missed 16K of value in the JJ hand.. but apart from that, I made the biggest call... in the biggest spot - and couldn't hold.


Get me into more please! I don't have the roll to play them myself now, so I'm going to be rebuilding and trying to satellite in.

If anyone wants to be on a list of people to get information if i sell pieces then please pm me.



This has been 3-4hours of my life.  I hope you enjoyed it.


peace.

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on April 14, 2012, 08:27:39 AM
I love these reports buddy but obv gotta be at Dtd for 12 so will read at leisure.

Hand one is pretty std how us old uns play that. I am interested to know if Alan would fold a set there or not if you have a stab at it. A very similar hand came up late on my table. The board read 4 to the flush on clubs  and a laggy young guy who had got to 100k without showing down many hands led out 30k which was half the pot. Game over I thought but his opponent snapped him off having flopped bottom set no club. I nodded in appreciation thinking the player had picked up something but he smiled at me and said " sometimes you gotta hero call these young uns and had decided to call all the way down no matter how the board ran out". Obv the lad was disappointed at the call but he had failed to realise that with his previous play he had turned a  tight passive player into a calling station. ( the lad then flopped top set and managed to get a full double up 3 hands later betting all 3 seats ) :)
 

2nd hand about an hour in you pick up that the guy had been opening his buttons a lot??? Would this have been both his buttons in that hour :)

Love this diary and if Belton stops posting about his life then yours goes straight into the top 3 must reads. Gl


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on April 14, 2012, 08:35:56 AM
The diaries an interesting read ,however the name calling seems very immature and annoying ,same as with sean s diary


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on April 14, 2012, 10:21:11 AM
Do you make notes on your phone or something or do you have some sort of super memory - love these trip reports btw!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 14, 2012, 10:36:24 AM
Yes mate and you look exactly how i thought you would.... a super genius who's dressed by his mom and probably has a 3fig IQ with a 2 at the start, but I question you're ability to make beans on toast! pics or it didn't happen!
(would love to pic your brains sometime about basic beginnings in the O-game as i'd like to enter at the lowest stakes... but obv need to learn to play Holdem properly first.)

sigh at being dressed by my mum lol

Sure. Add me on skype (same name as here), cos you called me a genius and pricked my ego I'm going to read all your hands and I guess it'll take me about 3 hours lol

Never made beans on toast, not a big fan, feel like I could give it a spin though - I made a pie once though!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 14, 2012, 11:20:11 AM
Hand 1 - TT.

Seems Stnd-ish, chk/call also decent option but you protect your equity better by betting plus you do get a decent amount of value. Would defo consider folding to the flop raise if you're not going to consider bluffing hearts sometimes though. He should 100% bet the turn so you get off lightly there

Hand 3 - KJo

I'd be all for the call if you were suitttted as you say IP with deepish SPR etc as it goes though people just dont go around cold-4-betting light all that much in live comps, and the small raises always wreak strength to me.

Hand 4 - AK

Seems like you played it well and have a good grasp of what was going on. Would be interesting to hear what your line is if
a) Kevin chks the flop back
b) Kevin bets the flop and checks the turn
c) if the river bricked and he bet huge
d) if he overbet the river on this card

Hand 5 - AQ

Again, can't fault your play at all. personally i'd 3bet preflop generically in this tournament and I'd also raise the flop purely because he's bet so small and the board is pretty wet and i know whenever I raise a wet flop everyone always puts me on a flushdraw lol. As it happens you played it great because he'll very likely put you on a missed draw because you just called on such a wet board, so wpwpwp imo nice hand

Hand 6 - KK

nice hand again I think, you know you're burning the chips when you call but w/e not much money, people who take ages to turn their cards over when you call is really tilting. Chinese are bad for this (except you ofc paul ho :D )

Hand 7 - AA

Nice hand again. You didn't say what the raise sizes were, I hope you made it really big :) he must have had QQ ?

Hand 8 - 99

I would defo consider value raising the river here. 75 is EXTREMELY unlikely given the action but he could have T7 feesibly enough, this being said thouogh he has loads of two pairs etc that people get stubborn with and won't fold. I feel like he'd check T7 some% given your image and how much people love to trap also. I think making it about 2.5x his bet here is the way forward (he would have folded for sure here but he isn't folding 44 or 68/69)

Hand 9 - 35

i think his range is entirely mid pairs (such a wonderful flop) so i'd make a small raise on the flop before T/J/Q/K/A hits the turn/river we wanna get as much in as possible. There is no way he's folding to your flop raise none whatsoever so i'd not be worried about geting value from his bluffs as he is literally never bluffing imo, Also I don't think he EVER has a KING unless it's AK (possible sure) in which case he'll 100% bet the river again so I really see no need to raise the turn when a big chunk of his range is going to have a way harder time calling here than he would on the flop.

Hand 10 - AK

Like this hand. Obv bet/calling the flop is stnd but this is under the assumption that no1 in their right minds is bet/folding the turn from this stack size in a live tournament, so wp for figuring that out. Don't chk this flop as a default though!

Hand 11 - I'd 100% raise the flop but as it happens you'd make him fold here lol. Also DEFO DEFO DEFO lead the river, his calling range when you ship is pretty similar to the range that jams for value, the only difference is that he checks back the weaker parts of his range (AJ maybe QQ/KK/AA also) so all we do by not jamming the river is to lose value vs the weakest part of his range, I don't think he gets to the river with air that he's piling often enough to make it a concern either.

Hand 12 - 97

Fold pre ofc (or 3bet) but I would peel here sometimes cos i'm a spacky cash player lol. you playing it good down the streets though *thumbsup*

HAnd 13 - AQ

UL, you weren't worried he had AK - I've seen people show up with AK here live before. Either way it's a dreadful play from him and you've made what seems like a decent call - I'd expect him to have pairs a lot not sure why you think he wont, but anyways very very unlucky.

Sigh at the KK vs A7 hand :(

Sounds like you played a good, composed game without too much ego and FPS. You got unlucky at the crunch time which is impossible to over-some in poker tournaments I'm afraid. Sure you'll do great next time :)

gl







Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 14, 2012, 01:25:16 PM
wtf??? Why the hell did you raise quads on the nut worst card to do it.

As discussed, the 97 can never ever be justified and is bad, but think you know this deep down.

The 44 is something i used to do too much, online it may be a calll, but these dinasours, are never 38 bluff jamming.



 I think the wotst of the hands is ak on kxxsss, why do i jam the turn? You take all the air out of his range and vs his value and calling range were not actually in gd shape.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 03:29:26 PM
The diaries an interesting read ,however the name calling seems very immature and annoying ,same as with sean s diary
Appreciated, I DO try to do it less... however when I'm trying to reference to a player its tough to not have some kind of 'label'  instead of Chinese fish should I call him the Chinese recreational player with sunglasses?  That's why the CF was used afterwards... I think if I gave people player numbers it might be hard to keep track.

Do you make notes on your phone or something or do you have some sort of super memory - love these trip reports btw!

Just memory mate, most of the hands are really memorable that evening.. then I made notes that eve... as the hands and the runouts spark all the 'side' info that I had at the time.
Gotta care if you're going to make notes and improve.
Yes mate and you look exactly how i thought you would.... a super genius who's dressed by his mom and probably has a 3fig IQ with a 2 at the start, but I question you're ability to make beans on toast! pics or it didn't happen!
(would love to pic your brains sometime about basic beginnings in the O-game as i'd like to enter at the lowest stakes... but obv need to learn to play Holdem properly first.)

sigh at being dressed by my mum lol

Sure. Add me on skype (same name as here), cos you called me a genius and pricked my ego I'm going to read all your hands and I guess it'll take me about 3 hours lol

Never made beans on toast, not a big fan, feel like I could give it a spin though - I made a pie once though!

Will do, thanks for the comments, going to go through them... I did make some small mistakes for sure... but most of them enabled me to not get to showdown... which is good imo because I've seen 'recreational players' have trouble reacting properly to aggression when they haven't seen your hands shown down.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 04:19:33 PM
Hand 1 - TT.

Seems Stnd-ish, chk/call also decent option but you protect your equity better by betting plus you do get a decent amount of value. Would defo consider folding to the flop raise if you're not going to consider bluffing hearts sometimes though. He should 100% bet the turn so you get off lightly there
Completely agree, should have folded to the flop raise vs this villain and I know this, but I have an overpair and its only an hour in.... could always hit the offsuit T on the turn right? :D Will be folding here in future..

Hand 3 - KJo

I'd be all for the call if you were suitttted as you say IP with deepish SPR etc as it goes though people just dont go around cold-4-betting light all that much in live comps, and the small raises always wreak strength to me.
Turns out he had AQo and just thought I was 'at it'.. you're right about small raises oop... they've been the nuts most of the time I've seen a showdown...

Hand 4 - AK

Seems like you played it well and have a good grasp of what was going on. Would be interesting to hear what your line is if
a) Kevin chks the flop back
b) Kevin bets the flop and checks the turn
c) if the river bricked and he bet huge
d) if he overbet the river on this card
Vs this villain I'm going to call almost any river bet when he bet bet bet's as its so hard to have a value hand that includes a J or isn't afraid I have a J.. I think later in the day, I would expect him to value bet 2p here... but I like super thin value bets myself and as pleno says - most of the time I'm just cutting myself.  If he bet, check, bets then I'd hate it more.. but probably still call one time... I have tptk and I've played it tricky.... my fault + pot or bet couldn't be that big when playing it like this.

Hand 5 - AQ

Again, can't fault your play at all. personally i'd 3bet preflop generically in this tournament and I'd also raise the flop purely because he's bet so small and the board is pretty wet and i know whenever I raise a wet flop everyone always puts me on a flushdraw lol. As it happens you played it great because he'll very likely put you on a missed draw because you just called on such a wet board, so wpwpwp imo nice hand
I like this a lot, esp with the previous cold 4bt and 4min stare down... I know he's going to assume I'm FOS here too much and snap with one pair... when I find out he had 2p and a legitimate way to win the hand then I was glad I'd just call, called as it allowed me to still have the nuts before putting the raise in.

Hand 6 - KK

nice hand again I think, you know you're burning the chips when you call but w/e not much money, people who take ages to turn their cards over when you call is really tilting. Chinese are bad for this (except you ofc paul ho :D )
Yer, this was the only classless point in the day, I felt like such a tool after the hand.. but it SUPER DUPER tilts me when I snap call a river bet to then wait 10 full seconds to see their hand....
I get retarded responses like "I didn't realise you'd called, there weren't any chips in.."
What did you think "CALL" meant? - sigh. - working on this...

Hand 7 - AA

Nice hand again. You didn't say what the raise sizes were, I hope you made it really big :) he must have had QQ ?
He limped for 400 I made it 1200, flat from shortie, he makes it 3600 and I make it 7200... shortie ALLin and he flats from 29Kish..  I got a mini-rubdown from Marc Goodwin after as he said he knew my hand but not the suits and how I wouldn't be able to get him like that... I merely retorted that if he thought I'd 4bt him pre, he was crazy...

Hand 8 - 99

I would defo consider value raising the river here. 75 is EXTREMELY unlikely given the action but he could have T7 feesibly enough, this being said thouogh he has loads of two pairs etc that people get stubborn with and won't fold. I feel like he'd check T7 some% given your image and how much people love to trap also. I think making it about 2.5x his bet here is the way forward (he would have folded for sure here but he isn't folding 44 or 68/69)
I wanted to sooooooo bad, but felt that I didn't want to risk that 1/100 time the CF spazzes and shoves his top2pair.... or something.. I'd rather just call, humiliate him again just before the break and chip up.  I did consider a minraise/call but it might be owning myself too much... betting small on rivers to induce spazzy raises is going to be part or things I include into my game.

Hand 9 - 35

i think his range is entirely mid pairs (such a wonderful flop) so i'd make a small raise on the flop before T/J/Q/K/A hits the turn/river we wanna get as much in as possible. There is no way he's folding to your flop raise none whatsoever so i'd not be worried about geting value from his bluffs as he is literally never bluffing imo, Also I don't think he EVER has a KING unless it's AK (possible sure) in which case he'll 100% bet the river again so I really see no need to raise the turn when a big chunk of his range is going to have a way harder time calling here than he would on the flop.
I think pleno is right that its the nut worst card as it looks like it hits my range.. obviously if he rivers a miracle 6 then we get his stack and we're not worried about any river... obviously a K is a good one too... However I thought it would look super 'convenient' and kinda bluffy here.... and that villain dependent he may get stubborn with his pair.  Also, if this villain had KQ he wouldn't have folded pre.

Hand 10 - AK

Like this hand. Obv bet/calling the flop is stnd but this is under the assumption that no1 in their right minds is bet/folding the turn from this stack size in a live tournament, so wp for figuring that out. Don't chk this flop as a default though!
It's something I've started doing more often as people don't generally believe you can check tptk as a PFR.  Also on this board when I get checkshoved on I don't really like the call, but I wouldn't be folding.. so by flatting I manipulate his turn betting range to include all AIR, FD's, K's, random pairs that want to bet, and so little of that can call it off.  I would really like to flat and call any river but I hate the spade ones and he had enough that if I blindly called it off I would be super short.  Getting the money in on the turn is safer in this spot.

Hand 11 - I'd 100% raise the flop but as it happens you'd make him fold here lol. Also DEFO DEFO DEFO lead the river, his calling range when you ship is pretty similar to the range that jams for value, the only difference is that he checks back the weaker parts of his range (AJ maybe QQ/KK/AA also) so all we do by not jamming the river is to lose value vs the weakest part of his range, I don't think he gets to the river with air that he's piling often enough to make it a concern either.
Yeah, this was the only value mistake of the day and I think I should cshove turn 99% of time, and lead river the other 1%.. checking river was bad but its hard to get QQ+ and I have all the tp's.... so what can he have???

Hand 12 - 97

Fold pre ofc (or 3bet) but I would peel here sometimes cos i'm a spacky cash player lol. you playing it good down the streets though *thumbsup*
This should be a 3bt for the reasons I called, but I was sure he'd fold all the time and I wanted another bet out of him.  As said, I wasn't playing my cards, but the player and the board.  The board ran out perfectly for me to just call call call so i did and I was right about him, his hand and his tendancies.  Live reads FTW!

Hand 13 - AQ

UL, you weren't worried he had AK - I've seen people show up with AK here live before. Either way it's a dreadful play from him and you've made what seems like a decent call - I'd expect him to have pairs a lot not sure why you think he wont, but anyways very very unlucky.
No, he never has AK and he raises his pairs... I'm 100% that his range is Ax, Kx and Qx all the time.. I guess we can include the cheeky J10 and J9 but that's it.  Vs that range - we're 68.8%.  Whether I have to risk it, or be patient and 'grind' my way into day two or take this risk and sail through is the discussion....  I'm still not sure what I'd do if it came up again.. I hope this experience doesn't make me fold a situation where I should call in future though.

Sigh at the KK vs A7 hand :(

Sounds like you played a good, composed game without too much ego and FPS. You got unlucky at the crunch time which is impossible to over-some in poker tournaments I'm afraid. Sure you'll do great next time :)

Hope so fella, played the best ever and somehow am not through to day2... no spew as was the norm for me, no randomness... just good value hands, played solidly and didn't hold in the crunch ones.  That's all folks.

gl






Notes above... thanks for the comments, it means a lot.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 04:23:13 PM
wtf??? Why the hell did you raise quads on the nut worst card to do it.

As discussed, the 97 can never ever be justified and is bad, but think you know this deep down.

The 44 is something i used to do too much, online it may be a calll, but these dinasours, are never 38 bluff jamming.



 I think the wotst of the hands is ak on kxxsss, why do i jam the turn? You take all the air out of his range and vs his value and calling range were not actually in gd shape.

The 97o is bad for obv reasons as we discussed, as justified above I'm not worried about it post-flop and I ended up winning 25K that I wouldn't have if I'd 3bt but obv this won't happen every time, vs a competent villain I just 3bt pre.

Yer, the 44 was a mistake.. raise calling with <77 is probably bad when UTG but then next orbit when I've called with 44's the idiot otb shoves 44's.... what a tool.  I sigh pass 66's and he successfully used his 10bb's to 'bluff'.... well played sir.

The AK hand on Kxxsss, what do you do pads? When we call turn, what do we do on which rivers? he has 17K and we know he wont be afraid to bet 100% of rivers... (from what he said after I think he had a decent spade...)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 14, 2012, 04:25:39 PM
wtf??? Why the hell did you raise quads on the nut worst card to do it.

As discussed, the 97 can never ever be justified and is bad, but think you know this deep down.

The 44 is something i used to do too much, online it may be a calll, but these dinasours, are never 38 bluff jamming.



 I think the wotst of the hands is ak on kxxsss, why do i jam the turn? You take all the air out of his range and vs his value and calling range were not actually in gd shape.

The 97o is bad for obv reasons as we discussed, as justified above I'm not worried about it post-flop and I ended up winning 25K that I wouldn't have if I'd 3bt but obv this won't happen every time, vs a competent villain I just 3bt pre.

Yer, the 44 was a mistake.. raise calling with <77 is probably bad when UTG but then next orbit when I've called with 44's the idiot otb shoves 44's.... what a tool.  I sigh pass 66's and he successfully used his 10bb's to 'bluff'.... well played sir.

The AK hand on Kxxsss, what do you do pads? When we call turn, what do we do on which rivers? he has 17K and we know he wont be afraid to bet 100% of rivers... (from what he said after I think he had a decent spade...)

but why choose 97, theres sooooooo many better hands we can choose than 97o


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 04:52:48 PM
its the situation mate... there is a dead BB there and he min opened the button... I would have defended with atc here...

turns out it ran out nicely to bluff catch but like I said I was going to craise flops or turn and take it down that way..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 14, 2012, 04:59:35 PM
its the situation mate... there is a dead BB there and he min opened the button... I would have defended with atc here...



rly?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 05:12:24 PM
yeh, going to take the blinds, antes and his raise unless he hits tp...

you wouldn't want to take this spot?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 10:18:32 PM
This is just a small note to point out how freaking hard it is to win at online cash poker....

I mean I'm playing 25nl and as such I'm probably one of the spewier regs.. but it is just so hard to win a lot of $$ when people don't bluff a lot (read - as much as i do).

Dug myself an $80 hole today in my first session.. think about 50 of it was avoidable-ish.. ($25 of that was JJ vs KK on 10xx..)
Got out of the hole with some rungood and overbets when people obv had tptk.
Had one really nice one where I flat T's from bb and flop KTT - cc, turn Q - cc and River K - craise 5x pot and he snaps with KJ. :D
nice runout!

So, had a break, some food and back for a second session today!


We are losing overall at the moment.. but definitely getting there in the stronger fundamentals department.  And hand reading is improving every hand!


Back to it then......


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on April 14, 2012, 10:26:18 PM
Nice.................I can't even win one f**king hand


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on April 14, 2012, 10:33:22 PM
And now I start to play junk I start hitting .................. sometimes


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on April 14, 2012, 10:36:22 PM
Sorry don't mean to hijack your diary - carry on (let me carry on playing s**t and keep hitting for an EPT Seat!)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 14, 2012, 11:44:48 PM
Its fine... its a hard game that takes on a whole different time scale than live players are used to.

Winrates are measures in bb/100 for heavens sake.. - if you were to win 5bb/100 in a live cash game you're looking at £10/3hours in a £1/2 game.... that just would not be sustainable or profitable.. but its better theoretically! And that's the key.

Having a great second session, playing solid... winning and haven't spewed or put myself in any situation where I 'could' lose a bit pot.

Apart from just now... KK vs AA against the only guy with a ridiculously aggressive pre flop game...
So that's most of the profit from the last hour gone then!

Still winning $20 ish... currently at a rate of 14.21bb/100.... wish I could have that over 1million hands... (I'd be the best player on this site at these stakes!)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 06:11:48 AM
Stop loss again...

Just gone back through the session and the biggest hands... Think a couple are semi-spew... there are two that we have really strong hands but we're clearly never ahead.... there's 4 flips and we only win 1.  And KK into AA, and AK into KK vs aggressive opponents... so some of it is fine, but some not.

Need to get pleno sweating me today when I play.  Feels horrid to not be able to win.. but when they don't bluff much/ enough across the board then spotting the bluffers, making a note and treating everyone else as honest until seen otherwise has to be the way forward.


Although, there are some horrible plays/ players doing some ridiculous things... one guy cold called SB to my BTN 3bt with 910o, then check calls a K10x flop... turn is a 9 obviously... check calls again.. and then donk shoves river 8 for 2/3 pot... ofc I call when the draws brick and he magically has 2p.  Well played sir, I hope you enjoy my moneys.

Some other 'playa' decides to donk 24cc on K84, gets raised and calls... turn is a K and now he wants to get his entire stack in after check-min raising and I STILL SHOVE!  #toolsgonatool!


really frustrated right now but still loving the game... just need to work out how to do this!
I will win, I will crush these muppets... I'm already beating up some of the regs pretty bad...

I will win at 25nl on WPT 6max cash games.



good night/ morning.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on April 15, 2012, 08:57:47 AM
You should deffo get pleno sweating you ,I read a post on ukipt from him ,about how somebody played a hand
They replied thinking he was criticising / pi55 taking ,he then posted an extremely well explained read of the hand ,which showed IMO a very deep understanding / high thought level of the game
Whereas you are still in the shallow end ,
But hopefully as his padowan you will improve gl


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on April 15, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
Wanna hear more about this hand. So he donked with 24 on K84 and you raised right? Then the turn paired the K and he checked and you bet again? and he minraised you? And you went allin?

AS A BLUFF?!?!?!?!?!?

And he called and was good?

Need

Facepalm

Gif

AGAIN!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 03:47:19 PM
Wanna hear more about this hand. So he donked with 24 on K84 and you raised right? Then the turn paired the K and he checked and you bet again? and he minraised you? And you went allin?

AS A BLUFF?!?!?!?!?!?

And he called and was good?

Need

Facepalm

Gif

AGAIN!

He donks - we know at this level it is one of two ranges...
- either sets/ nuts...
- one pair hands like a 4, 8 or 33-10's..

We raise because they often fold the weaker parts of this range and reraise the strong ranges..

He just calls.. and we now know his range is the weaker side...
- we bet because they will always call the turn but fold to a river shove
- when he check min raises... in this case its never strength...
- I have seen people do this then fold to a shove because "I can never be bluffing!"
- Vs any 4 I have a lot of wins... any 8, Q, A
- Vs an 8 I can hit my big cards...

+ I'll be honest... this line pissed me off!

so yes to facepalm.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 15, 2012, 03:55:03 PM
hey on phone because gf broke her toe, do you want me to post all the feedback from the email on the thread or privately? either is fine for me.

vs the fish shoving the k turn sounds so bad fwiw


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on April 15, 2012, 04:11:28 PM
hey on phone because gf broke her toe, do you want me to post all the feedback from the email on the thread or privately? either is fine for me.

vs the fish shoving the k turn sounds so bad fwiw

POST ITT PLEASE


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 04:21:05 PM
Probably fair ITT... my shame and successes need to be here........              (about to be told off I think)



Just had a decent session, playing much tighter and tried to not make ANY bluffs for more than 20bb's...

Session results...
I won. @ 12.56bb/100 over 1022hands.
(Hmmm........ interesting correlation.)

Had a +ve red line the entire session, I remember a few spots where I bet the river knowing I wouldn't get called because the guy had 'air' or something but tried to squeeze a little value - e.g. Flat AQ inpos and call call on Axxr Xo then he check folds river.


Will have a break now for a bit, then play another 1k hands.. want to get in 3k today.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 06:14:25 PM
Such a joke....

one attempt at a bluff......... and after cbetting the guy 'trap checks' KK on 10x897 on turn and river and snap calls my bets.

WHY ARENT THEY DOING THIS WHEN I HAVE IT AND STILL BET, AND SHOVE RIVER?



OMG... you'd think im special or something....

when will i learn... not ...... to ...... bluff....????????????????????
(oh but "they're exploiting me" or "they're floating to take it away when i check".....)



I'm such a tool.

#stilllovethegame
#goingtogrindtherestofthissession

value hands please?


Where is the sunny mistri of online?
This is so hard to win!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 15, 2012, 07:26:20 PM
hey on phone because gf broke her toe, do you want me to post all the feedback from the email on the thread or privately? either is fine for me.

vs the fish shoving the k turn sounds so bad fwiw

POST ITT PLEASE


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 07:42:14 PM
Well that went well..

Grinded my little socks off and managed to finish +$95.08 - my biggest winning single session of 1000 hands i think.


Feel really good about it.  Had some nice hands.. finally had the AA when someone had the KK's... and I just flatted until he bet all of his chippies!


Played so soild, not even the remotest tiniest bit of spew or bluffage...
(not entirely true, there was 1 successful bluff - I 3bt and bet, bet, shoved on QxxxA.  Was going to shut down on bad rivers, had K10 so I hit a K and i look like i hit an A).


One more session today i think. 
No one is online though.... need someone to talk tooooo!



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 15, 2012, 09:10:48 PM
ok here we go.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 09:34:49 PM
 ;scarymoment;

 ;popcorn;


going to be some

 ;tracet; ;djinn; ;yellowcard; ;grr; ;dingdell; :redcard: ;technophobe; ;frustrated; ;goodvevil;


 ;indestructable;

no John! ;smackedbottom;

but.... ;reallyamsorry;  ;oopsy;


So... ;slavedriver; ;topofclass; ;slavedriver;


 ;iagree; ;goodluck;



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 15, 2012, 09:48:44 PM
Hand 1 - http://wt.ag/HB6OZh
Bet flop, we have 4 outs to the nuts, if we check it has to be to c/f, why the hell are we c/calling here? no matter whta dynamics what anything its terrible
turn is pretty OMG, why are we c/jamming the turn?

Hand 2- http://weaktight.com/4577730
Min raise pre as discussed
Why are you calling 3bets with k2??
We have k2 and the board is 639 and we call a bet? we have no back door equity, no nothing?
turn is a 10 and we float again? why? why are you calling 3bets and double floating with k2?
river is a 2 and he jams and we call. not sure if this is serious, but its obvious huge huge huge spew

Hand 3- http://weaktight.com/4577732
just 5b shove.

Hand 4-  http://weaktight.com/4577736
not sure why were 3betting people we describe as all nits with j10 when they open utg, ul postflop

hand 5- http://weaktight.com/4577740
river is just massive spew, i mean really john?

hand 6- http://weaktight.com/4577744
we descirbe everyone as being really nitty, getting in jacks vs utg openers is generally not going to be good, calling and inviting the blinds aling is mch vetter, there are 3/4 of hands like this, and not one where we get it in vs 10s

hand 7- http://weaktight.com/4577748
agan hu8ge spew, we are 3betting a9o vs an ep opener, we can pretty much the nut worst hand in this spot
omg we 5b jam? really? again, this is masssssssssive massive out of control spew

hand 8- http://weaktight.com/4577760
wal :d

hand  9 -http://weaktight.com/4577762
Wtf?!?!?!?! why are we 2x pot jamming the river? what worse calls?

hand 9= http://weaktight.com/4577767
river is ul, but defo raise turn

hand 10- http://weaktight.com/4577769
as discussed i prefer a c/f otr

hand 11-http://weaktight.com/4577771
pre flop is frightening, we have a terrible hand to play a 3bet pot with, turn is a fold too

hand 12- http://weaktight.com/4577773
its a 4x pot shove, we have ace high, please fold :P

hand 13- http://weaktight.com/4577774
spew city, he isn't folding

hand 14- http://weaktight.com/4577777
again pre this is like wtf? be normal pls :P

hand 15- http://weaktight.com/4577779
gigantic spew, wtf are you doing?

hand 16- http://weaktight.com/4577783
we have the best hand here yes, but this doesnt escape it being one of the worst river lines ive ever seen, seriously, what on earth are you thinking?

hand 17- http://weaktight.com/4577790
bas open, they gonna call big aces and not 3bet and just generally not a gr8 hand

hand 18- http://weaktight.com/4577794
j9 utg, its not even close to being close

hand 19- http://weaktight.com/4577798
i know u may think im being results orientated, but i probably jsut call river, we dont beat nay 9x and he is quite polarised and can fold ax a huge % of the time

hand 20- http://weaktight.com/4577801
again bad spew, pre is probably a check, we're oop, no idea whats going on through ur head on the turn, its 100% enevr a jam.

hand 21- http://weaktight.com/4577802
river is def a fold, but pre is horrific, we have the nut worst hand to be 3betting here

hand 22- http://weaktight.com/4577803
seriously jon this is just unacceptable, its huge huge spew and ur jsut burning money




Analysis

There are 22 hands here, about 18 of them are horrificly bad, thats about $500 or 20bis you've spewed and 99% of them are totally un needed. The plays are not even like high level thinking players, they are just complete and utter spew. I know you've put alot of effort into learning and watching videos, can you please tlel me who told you to float oop with 78 on 10104ss and then c/r and jam over the guys 3bet? I want to pay that guy a visit and tell him he owes me $500.

I've read all the dtd stuff and about how you completely crushed etc, without wanting to sound nasty or overly cynical here it feels like you are highly delusional and alot of the owning etc is actually just coolers or spots that worked, it doesn't mean you're a genuis.

I feel at the moment you're probably going to be a -5bb/100 loser at 25nl. The rake is big and combined with this spew its going to be uncontrollable, you just ltierally cannot play this eratically and give this much money away.

You are evidently an intelligent guy and you have more passion from poker than anybody I know, you remind me of myself froim when I was 18, I was almost exactly the same as you. I remember posting a hand on PHA where I cold clal a 3bet, float twice and jam 23dd on some j879k board or something and eveybody disagreeing with me except Alex Martin :D

You really need to address your game, theres really not much I can say to contribute or help apart from just... dont do it. I don't have to go into great depth about why we shouldn't be 3b/5b a9 from the sb vs utg+1 and I don't need to talk about why we are double floating and bluff shoving on bad boards.

You need to take a huge new approach to your game. I'm really unsure about the best way to go forward, at the moment it seems like we are definitely -ev at 25nl. I'd recommend playing 10nl for 1 week, sending me all the hands by next Saturday and I post the same as I have here.

I really don't want to come across as harsh, I like you alot and ofc I want you to do well. I believe in you and sometimes you need a real telling off before you get the aha moment. I hope we can look back on this post in 18 months when you're crushing 400nl and laugh abut it together.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Bully87 on April 15, 2012, 10:06:03 PM
Like the diary, much more Poker related and one I can relate to as well. Having moved up from 10NL (sigh), I too play 20NL, (sake of 5c) but having just read Patricks review, wow, I need to bum hunt and sit on your tables. I by no means beat the game myself but your still having winning sessions with spew like that, hats off, just imagine how much you could be winning if you cut out all that crap?!?!?!

I too have this spew within me but the sooner you cut it out the sooner you'll obviously move up to 50NL.

Believe the fish!!! They wont believe you and you win! Simple as that at that level.

Good luck and sick monitor setup btw!

Neil



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rbc_mike on April 15, 2012, 10:32:27 PM
Poker is all about being one level higher than your opponent.  You don't need to be told again, but seriously like double floating oop and c/jam rivers with air, what's the point?  Players are bad, so just value bet thinly and watch the money come in.  You may have it in your head that regs are 'after' you, but honestly, 'they' just have 'it' way more often than not.  You can't win every pot, and the way you are trying to is just gonna kill your win rate.

Remember, 25NL is not 1000NL, and alot of the plays listed above are spewy, regardless of stakes.  Some of the best advice I've been given is applicable for poker and life:
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.

Before you 5bet jam a9o aipf vs an utg nit, just remember, 'KISS'.

No doubt you will plug these leaks, keep working hard and crush :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 10:44:51 PM
Wow....

That's a post and a half.....



I'm already plugging and the last day and a half have been really good...  Playing much more solidly.. with the occasional bluff.

Before we move down, come and sweat me again - one of the notes I have right in front of me the whole time is
'Dont bluff for stacks..' and its definitely the biggest leak I had.


Already reducing and like I said the other day, the only limiting factor is how much I can get to play + how much time I can get with you.


I do appreciate all the comments and criticisms.

This is definitely 'cashgate'...............



In the session I'm playing while I write this i am currently losing $45 after getting in AK vs AA pre and AJ vs JJ on AJx...
(tbh-  there was 1 bluff... - guy only called because he rivered two pair...)





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 15, 2012, 10:50:06 PM
John I'm not going to comment on any hands specifically but a general theme form them all is that you're playing a bit ego-y and stubborn.

This isn't a criticism the exact opposite, when you first really start out in poker it means a lot, and by means a lot to you I mean that you care a LOT about every hand, because at this stage in your career you have little to no concept of the mystical "long run" because you've not played anywhere near enough hands to realise that often (to quote Geeforce) a hand just isn't meant to be, and we have to concede - we don't need to win every pot!

All the calling 3bets OOP with dreadful hands (A6-A9o being the WORST HANDS YOU CAN POSSIBLY HAVE OOP WITHOUT THE INITIATIVE IN 3BET POTS) is, I shouldn't wonder because you think you will be able to "outplay him post-flop" this is car-crash thinking, the biggest post-flop edge in the world won't over-ride the fact that you have a dreadful hand and your OOP to a strong range, honestly give Ivey A6o in MP 100-150bb deep and let him try make money peeling your 3bets form the btn, seriously he CANT, and being possibly the world's best he's not going to call with A6.

The reason you are making these plays is most likely because you're really really passionate about the game, but I think to combine this with more composure, more thought and a bit more respect for your opponents, you can never really get into someones head until you understand them, so with no respect for someones poker at all you can never "crush" them. You might think they play bad but you need to respect the fact they are playing and this in itself makes them dangerous.

The other thing to remember is bluffing ISNT a bad thing, we want to bluff sometimes but it isn't about bluffing to "own" someone, or bluffing cos we want to win this pot, it's about our hand, our opponents range and our percieved range, in order for us to bluff we have to a) not have a good hand (this isn't ALWAYS TRUE OFC) b) be repping a legitimate value hand and c) be against a range of hands that CAN fold... if you play 1000 hands and in 678 of these hands you get to the river with a super strong range vs a super weak range then you prolly wanna be bluffing nearly all these times, if you have 78o and decide to chk/call a GS on a paired board and reach a turn with near on zero equity repping very little then you dont wanna be bluffing. you get me?

Get me on skype I'll sweat you for your session tomorrow if you like.
:
on a positive note I think all the best players start spewy and get better rather than the other way round :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
Sigh @ getting AA's in the best squeeze spot and then 99's do a peel and obv flop is K910.... gg.

Just as i was typing this, flatted AK oop to set up a squeeze, comes K55cc and check raise the pot bet from the two fish...
- one snaps me off for $25 with KQ
- the other takes his whole timebank and then calls with AK - horrible imo. sucks that i chop the $30 with him.

Then another fishy gives me a bi with KJ on Kxx when I flatted AA's pre..... :D :D :D



I can win!

just gota be a nit innit.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 15, 2012, 10:57:28 PM
just gota be a nit not be a huge spaz innit.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 15, 2012, 11:03:40 PM
just gota be a nit not be a huge spaz innit.



true.. see my pm?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 15, 2012, 11:04:29 PM
yes i've added you. you need to accept me :(


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on April 15, 2012, 11:45:02 PM
I think I'm going to to reread pleno's post several hundred times.

Just awesome.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: parker on April 15, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
great thread. Best of luck with beating the game

but my lord there is some epic spew haha

its inspired ill give you that haha


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 16, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
I hope you all enjoy my shame.....

its there for you all to see.



So will my +ve graph... when ive got one!





(currently in a sweat session with Lil'D - no spew yet)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 16, 2012, 12:45:13 AM
Right, weekend results...

Played much tighter style in general, and somehow people either don't notice and/or care.

Played 19/16 or 18/14 for most of the weekend, which compared to before at 33/28 or 28/25 is a BIG difference.  There were a LOT of fish around today, which was a surprise as there normally aren't many if any 'standard fish' (bad with over 40% vpip etc) on at all.

But we played the following sessions:-

14/04/2012 - 41mins: 196 hands: Won $71.82: ran bad for a buy-in.... lol
14/04/2012 - 117mins: 674 hands: Won $21.96:  made a mistake for a buy-in with JJ vs KK..
14/04/2012 - 102mins: 594 hands: Won $23.14: played much tighter, made life easier.
15/04/2012 - 246mins 1579 hands: LOST $142.92: Got cold decked for a few buy-ins then donked off two... - SIGH @ session.
15/04/2012 - 261mins: 2002 hands Won $95.08: back to much tighter, found it easy to win when i kept folding QQ on 10xx to two barrels!!! WTF? - apparently it wins tho.
15/04/2012 - 185mins: 1320 hands Won $19.96: tight is right......


So overall a good weekend, putting in plenty of volume.  It really makes it easy to 'fold' this one hand when you're putting in that kind of volume because one hand just doesn't mean anything anymore.


Seems sick to put this kinda volume in tbh.... remember I'm not mass multi-tabling... I'm 4-6 tabling.  (only 6 tabling to play 'tighter')





Right, well I'm off to wake up Charlene and take her to bed since she's asleep on the couch waiting for me to finish.  I'll be reading Pleno's post a LOT over the next week, trying to ingrain this stuff into my head.

nn all,

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 16, 2012, 12:54:55 AM
haha im going to come across as abit of a dick here, but we dont have to play tight, i currently play 31/26/11 lots and lots of little aggresion in position is gd and will help you alot and improve non sd, but to do this you have to be super good mentally and not cling on to hands or be prone to blow ups.

I really am super impressed youve managed to tone down and be a nit. I promise you if you crush these guys with tight is right and get a good, solid fundamental game thhen i will teach you all of the fancy stuff later.

#ibelieveinjgcb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on April 16, 2012, 02:11:28 AM
"on a positive note I think all the best players start spewy and get better rather than the other way round "

defo agree.

i might add that the best players all have that spew inside them still and it sometimes it bursts out...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on April 16, 2012, 02:44:00 AM
it doesn't mean you're a genuis.



My highlight from an epic post


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: PeeJay on April 16, 2012, 03:00:40 AM
i might add that the best players all have that spew inside them still and it sometimes it bursts out...
Got love for the occasional spew. Great advertisement


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: edgascoigne on April 16, 2012, 09:10:22 AM
"on a positive note I think all the best players start spewy and get better rather than the other way round "

defo agree.

i might add that the best players all have that spew inside them still and it sometimes it bursts out...

Hope for me yet then :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Lucky on April 16, 2012, 09:28:02 AM
I love these reports buddy but obv gotta be at Dtd for 12 so will read at leisure.

Hand one is pretty std how us old uns play that. I am interested to know if Alan would fold a set there or not if you have a stab at it. A very similar hand came up late on my table. The board read 4 to the flush on clubs  and a laggy young guy who had got to 100k without showing down many hands led out 30k which was half the pot. Game over I thought but his opponent snapped him off having flopped bottom set no club. I nodded in appreciation thinking the player had picked up something but he smiled at me and said " sometimes you gotta hero call these young uns and had decided to call all the way down no matter how the board ran out". Obv the lad was disappointed at the call but he had failed to realise that with his previous play he had turned a  tight passive player into a calling station. ( the lad then flopped top set and managed to get a full double up 3 hands later betting all 3 seats ) :)
 

2nd hand about an hour in you pick up that the guy had been opening his buttons a lot??? Would this have been both his buttons in that hour :)

Love this diary and if Belton stops posting about his life then yours goes straight into the top 3 must reads. Gl

Hi Jason

Well done yesterday.

John was convinced he'd missed a bet on the end and that if he'd bet I would have folded. He suggested that a small bet would have looked very strong.  I'm pretty sure I would have called a small bet on pot odds alone, but would have folded to a pot sized bet for sure.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on April 16, 2012, 10:46:35 AM

I've read all the dtd stuff and about how you completely crushed etc, without wanting to sound nasty or overly cynical here it feels like you are highly delusional and alot of the owning etc is actually just coolers or spots that worked, it doesn't mean you're a genuis.

I really don't want to come across as harsh, I like you alot and ofc I want you to do well. I believe in you and sometimes you need a real telling off before you get the aha moment. I hope we can look back on this post in 18 months when you're crushing 400nl and laugh abut it together.


So much this.

Also really happy you have a few people of authority to tell you off now too!

Also feel a little bit sad for the future. I mean, a John Black without spew is like a candle without a flame. Hopefully you can make much much more moneys this way though. :)

Cheers you


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 17, 2012, 10:49:33 PM
Played a session with Fitzy, Pleno and Lil'D guest appeared..... Then we swapped over n fitzy played.

We both played really solid with only a few hands where a decision was close.  Fitzy had more than I did, think he played a little longer.  But I finished my mini session:-
440 hands
-$0.63

Only lost one pot of any real size and I value cut myself vs UTG raise, bet, bet, cc on Kxxhh Xh Xo... with KJ < UTG KQ... sigh.
I actually think his call is pretty meh... he shouldn't really beat a lot, most people at this level don't bet KJ for value.... Hmph.


Other than that, really happy with 6  tables and lots of spots.  Even taking a few of the Poker Strategy quiz's and since I'm now a Gold member but about to be Platinum it means I practically have access to all the Videos, Articles and Quiz's...  I passed two quiz's with 95%+ but the overall 'gold member' quiz I only got 65% which was due to me being a 'big passive' actually in some spots.  Interesting... only a few days ago I would have been more aggressive and probably passed the test, but maybe it was more 'blind aggression' than well constructed and reasoned aggression.

From what I've seen so far the articles are well written, informative with a decent balance between numbers and ideas.  I'm told the videos are fantastic and look forward to perusing them but tbh from what I've seen so far, using these and the coaching from the group/ Pleno and people like Lil'D I am really optimistic about being a solid winner @ 25NL very shortly and moving up soon.



So sick that I have people that are this good at poker to talk to and sweat me/ help me....

Thanks to everyone who's commented in this thread and to all those who bother to read my tl:dr posts.

off for schnuggles on the sofa with C, peace.

nn


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on April 18, 2012, 12:02:57 AM
just gota be a nit not be a huge spaz innit.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on April 18, 2012, 12:15:21 AM
epic post from pleno and some epic spew JB! :(


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on April 18, 2012, 09:31:55 AM
I love these reports buddy but obv gotta be at Dtd for 12 so will read at leisure.

Hand one is pretty std how us old uns play that. I am interested to know if Alan would fold a set there or not if you have a stab at it. A very similar hand came up late on my table. The board read 4 to the flush on clubs  and a laggy young guy who had got to 100k without showing down many hands led out 30k which was half the pot. Game over I thought but his opponent snapped him off having flopped bottom set no club. I nodded in appreciation thinking the player had picked up something but he smiled at me and said " sometimes you gotta hero call these young uns and had decided to call all the way down no matter how the board ran out". Obv the lad was disappointed at the call but he had failed to realise that with his previous play he had turned a  tight passive player into a calling station. ( the lad then flopped top set and managed to get a full double up 3 hands later betting all 3 seats ) :)
 

2nd hand about an hour in you pick up that the guy had been opening his buttons a lot??? Would this have been both his buttons in that hour :)

Love this diary and if Belton stops posting about his life then yours goes straight into the top 3 must reads. Gl

Hi Jason

Well done yesterday.

John was convinced he'd missed a bet on the end and that if he'd bet I would have folded. He suggested that a small bet would have looked very strong.  I'm pretty sure I would have called a small bet on pot odds alone, but would have folded to a pot sized bet for sure.

Ty. I am really loving watching people playing poker at the tables ATM.  Knowing both sides of a hand makes it even more so.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 18, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
Have a good trip to Korea mate.

Things to work on when coming back

-When to be aggresive?

-Cut off range?

-Range vs UTG?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 18, 2012, 12:04:36 PM
off for schnuggles on the sofa with C, peace.

nn

get it quietly mate, some of us live by ourselves


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on April 18, 2012, 12:29:51 PM

Only lost one pot of any real size and I value cut myself vs UTG raise, bet, bet, cc on Kxxhh Xh Xo... with KJ < UTG KQ... sigh.
I actually think his call is pretty meh... he shouldn't really beat a lot, most people at this level don't bet KJ for value.... Hmph.


So you value-bet KJ, but his call with KQ is bad? So why are we betting?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 18, 2012, 12:57:37 PM

Only lost one pot of any real size and I value cut myself vs UTG raise, bet, bet, cc on Kxxhh Xh Xo... with KJ < UTG KQ... sigh.
I actually think his call is pretty meh... he shouldn't really beat a lot, most people at this level don't bet KJ for value.... Hmph.


So you value-bet KJ, but his call with KQ is bad? So why are we betting?

I said I think my bet is marginal... but that since most players on this site aren't value betting there... vs most his call will be bad.

I guess my bet could achieve two results, it will sometimes get value from worse and sometimes bluff out better... but since I have TPGK i deem it as a value bet... no?



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 18, 2012, 01:54:48 PM
Have a good trip to Korea mate.

Things to work on when coming back

-When to be aggresive?

-Cut off range?

-Range vs UTG?
Sounds good, shame you don't listen to where I'm going...... but its ok. I'll mention it when I'm back, needless to say this is not a 'holiday spot'.

I'm thinking the following at the moment:-

1. When to be aggresive?
- IP with equity vs tighter opponents
- IP on dry boards as its harder for them to have something to continue/ or on wetter boards because it gives us a plethora of 'bluff' outs and we can look to rep strong 2p+ hands which its tough to make and so our Villain may struggle to continue.
- opponent specific instances

2. Cut off range?
Vs tighter buttons: 22+, 78s+, broadways, A2s+, K2s+, A2-A5o, A9o+, K9o+   ???

Looser buttons : 22+, 78s+, Big broadways, A8s+, K8s+, A9o+, K9o+

3. Range vs UTG?
- pairs
- suited connectors where the utg is tighter post flop
- big broadways
- AJs+, AQo+


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 18, 2012, 02:00:51 PM
the kj is awful, purely from apre flop perspective, calling kjo vs utg is going to be burning money.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 18, 2012, 02:01:08 PM
i said korea because im not allowed to say


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on April 18, 2012, 02:25:08 PM
i said korea because im not allowed to say
He is in the SAS ain't he :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on April 18, 2012, 06:05:14 PM
John Black is code name for James Bond?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: titaniumbean on April 18, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
i said korea because im not allowed to say
I don't get the not saying business cos the last time he gave us enough information to work it out anyway so it's hardly very secretive.


anyway if you want some proper strat, stop trying to get better at poker and just get there when you play.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: LonOhRay on April 19, 2012, 02:06:58 AM
In regards to live staking thread - I can't post in it, but obviously it doesn't make much sense.

To begin with, you didn't put up any results or any significant volume - have you beat SSMTTs online before other than having evidence of 10 or so live MTTs why would people put up hundreds/thousands to back you in the first place.

Secondly ...

Crushing super 50s and 100fo with small fields with "only 1.5k" up top - why be staked for those? Petrol costs food and drink to play makes 0 sense to give any action away when you could more or less play them with £2k and any money you siphon from work.

ROIs in those tournaments aren't going to give you a desirable hourly anyway (50% in a 40 runner £100fo = £55 profit over 5 hours? £11per hour) Cost of petrol and food and drink there lowers that.
ROI in a super 50 will be higher than 50% if you crush them insanely - so say 100% = £50 now they're 43+7 or w/e. That's £50 over 7 hours = £7.20. - The time it takes to drive there and back at undesirable hours and the petrol cost simply isn't worth traveling to play.

To take any % of profit away from those is more or less insanity unless you were unable to get backing for the Genting 400s DTD 500s and the other 500/700s that run about the country, without them.

Your time would be better off putting hands in online - spent studying nash charts and the like at home and actually improving rather than playing 200 live hands a night against people who can't tie their shoe laces for a £8 hourly less expenses.



Live small stakes MTT simply aren't worth playing to "make money" unless you live on the doorstep and they run promotions alongside - treat them as a break from online/fun not as a way to make money, if you bink, great add it to the roll.




A lot of ramble to basically say, don't over complicate everything and try to be a hero/overrate your ability and use excuses for extravagant play (read:spew - everyone is on level 1) reasons for busting tournaments, at every opportunity. Anybody who knows anything or are worth listening to about poker have seen and done it all 100x before.

To simplify the live staking - if you choose to be backed for low stakes - keep it to one person, no need to make 5 transactions for every min cash of a weekly tournament.

Ideally play low stakes on your own obv -EV to give away action if you can afford to play them.

Sell % for >300 live events (with mark up if you want, people wayyyyyy oversell themselves and are snapped up here all the time), more than enough people will buy and you won't be disheartened by getting into probable 5/10k make up if you play a lot.



I promise amongst that ramble there is some legit points aimed to help out lol.

P.S - folded any QQ JJ TT AQs pre this week? Or one pair hands in 200 bb pots :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 20, 2012, 05:53:26 PM
LonOhRay, cracking post, thanks... I will get it at some point but nackered atm and practically falling asleep, despite it only being like 10pm or something.

Think I'll be looking to grind up a roll using super50's n just play live cash when i get something going.... feel my game will be so much stronger live than it ever has been and i look forward to playing my best vs live fish and counting the monies when my hands hold up.

Night all..

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on April 20, 2012, 06:01:15 PM
If only it were as simple as just 'having hands hold up'

You playing the GP John?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 21, 2012, 12:58:47 AM
i said korea because im not allowed to say
I don't get the not saying business cos the last time he gave us enough information to work it out anyway so it's hardly very secretive.


anyway if you want some proper strat, stop trying to get better at poker and just get there when you play.

Its all to do with 'potential' security related issues, esp on a public thread where you can make up details to get access.

I didn't try to give too many details last time, just some taster stuff as it seems strange to not be able to say.. Confidentiality is the natureof the game im afraid.
(all im trying to do is hide my horrible attempt at playing the 'world tour of poker'.... e.g. the afghanistan 6max, the australian deepstack, and the DPRC hu games - brutal! - lolz)


missing pokers already and its only been a few days...

#lovethegame

NEWS NEWS NEWS
I have gotten hold of a book called '4 hour body' by a certain timothy ferriss, and am so impressed with it in the first few chapters that I will be adjusting my food intake when back in the UK in order to use his 'dieting methods' to lose the fat i have and go from an estimated 22/25% body fat down to 10-15%... and also tweak my gym routine to make it the most effective, so that I can achieve the body, heart and mind combo I want in order to be healthier in life and better at the pokers!

I will be posting pictures of my meals on a regular basis, but there are websites where you can track every single meal.. and I will at some point post some 'before' pics of myself... which could be scary granted, but next to the 'after' pics in a few months should be awesome.

I am aware a LOT of people in this forum have/ are/ will try to lose weight in all sorts of ways for all sorts of reason and all I can say from so far in the book 15% way through.... is that if you've ever really wanted to do anything to your body (decrease fat, lose weight, increase muscle) then you HAVE to read it.

Its the body book equivalent to JT's "Mental game of Poker"...........

I will also be looking at getting one of those workout 'resistance bands' for travelling so if any of you can help/ suggest that kinda thing then that would be great.


merci beaucoup...

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 21, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
Just a quick one... as im nackered again after a long day in X...  Even went to the gym after work and killed myself a little in there...

Did some punch bag work, some freeweights and some boogying down.  I had the 'gym chunes' CD up far too loud, luckily .
 
Managed to get to the club, get a steak and veg dinner and loved every singele bite!
:D



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on April 22, 2012, 07:13:37 AM
Enjoy X

Make sure you check the exchange rate before you play any poker/pool/darts etc


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 22, 2012, 07:05:44 PM
Enjoy X

Make sure you check the exchange rate before you play any poker/pool/darts etc

lolz @ accidental degeneracy...

finished work late tonight, then ran to the 'club bar' to nail myself a monster steak and as many vegetables as are used to feed a small village!  Feeling good and not missing the carbohydrates at the moment.

Full diet plan to follow...

super nackered again so early, not sure what's bringing this on, but its making it hard to give C the time she needs.  Must work harder on that, she's worth it and deserves it.

Back home in a few days, looking forward to it - get me to 'the beast' asap!!!!  Get me to WPT Poker ASAP!!!


gl to all the blondes in marbella, and to anyone else playing dtd events or anywhere  else, bring home a W please!

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 25, 2012, 08:55:13 PM
Back, from Islamabad, Pakistan..... bit boring but the work was hard/ good/ long.... and got back today.  Already on dtd getting a seat into tonight's DTD500 sat.  Would be lovely to get one of those first night back.


The photos below:
1 welcome to pakistan - this is what I first saw on my arrival in the airport when I was waiting for my bag to arrive.
2 breakfast - this was my breakfast for much of the trip... 3 eggs and 2 bits of bacon with chilli, only eating one of egg yolks.
3 lunch - sometimes a chicken salad, sometimes the cafeteria food.. this was so delicious I had two bowls of it.
4 dinner - steak and veg, had this loads! so tasty!
5 ??? - i wonder what you all think to seeing this along the road everywhere I went.... (apparently not a good 'batch'/ breed)


WPT Marbs
Well done to all the hero's who managed to get over to the WPT, apparently the blondes won everything! wp lads. wish I could be there next time.


Back to the grind!

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on April 25, 2012, 09:12:03 PM
lol. First pic so reminds me of the funniest thing I have ever read EVER!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4344890/Virgin-the-worlds-best-passenger-complaint-letter.html   (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4344890/Virgin-the-worlds-best-passenger-complaint-letter.html)

Good to see you back safe mate, gl with the grind!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 25, 2012, 11:08:26 PM
Just made money in DTD500 sat from a feeder entry.

510 Euro locked up... 2 seats with 3 left.


cmon!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 25, 2012, 11:32:21 PM
Binked the seat...

Nice return, so thats E660 locked up.  Should play it but we'll see.  Might cash it in and use 1/3 for the DTD spinup! :D


Played really solid, pretty snug really and got a lot of people to raise/ call bad hands vs us a lot.

Ahrt Qd vs  Ac 9s
Ad Jd vs  Aspades Th
Ad Tc vs  Ahrt 8s   (particularly nice.....)

We did however lose a couple of big key ones to set us up.. but managed to get fortunate in the right spots after those and get back into it!


Then played super solid FT, don't think I made a single mistake.... made some nice moves tho.


Off to bed now, gg all.

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: paulhouk03 on April 25, 2012, 11:45:18 PM
Can u cash in seats anymore?
I heard ppl say u can't only transfer


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on April 26, 2012, 06:43:16 AM
Can u cash in seats anymore?
I heard ppl say u can't only transfer

Afaik you have to play the first one, you can switch dates. 'spare' seats can be cashed. At least that was the rule in February. Think you can also transfer spares to other players too.

The seats from FT Challenge and Cash Game Rewards had to be played.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 26, 2012, 08:25:51 AM
You cant 'cash' it in directly, but you can sell/ transfer it. So I might just sell it at 99.5%.. GTO FTW.

really not sure whether to play the grand prix or not.. Its obv a super value tourny with a monster ROI prize pool... But it'll costme close to £50 in expenses..

Hmmmm.....


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 26, 2012, 08:59:15 PM
Found myself at dtd playing the GP and I couldnt be more bored. :D

Playig snug and watching the 'less than optimal' play. Making what mental notes I can and waiting for value hands...... soon please!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on April 26, 2012, 09:09:09 PM
Not using your "insane edge" yet then ?

People on your table will be relieved


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Lucky on April 26, 2012, 09:25:48 PM
Not using your "insane edge" yet then ?


I think that phrase will live on for a long time now.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 26, 2012, 09:47:33 PM
Not using your "insane edge" yet then ?


I think that phrase will live on for a long time now.



Doing my best to do I i can, however 92o doesn't play too good vs people who dont fold very often.

Just did my first buyin with 99 vs QQ aipf in a 'meh' spot.

INsane edge being saved for day 3!!!! :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on April 27, 2012, 01:10:58 AM
Not using your "insane edge" yet then ?


I think that phrase will live on for a long time now.



Doing my best to do I i can, however 92o doesn't play too good vs people who dont fold very often.

Just did my first buyin with 99 vs QQ aipf in a 'meh' spot.

INsane edge being saved for day 3!!!! :P
Fml. The guy who called music Tony's QQ jam with A8 just took me to the cleaners. At 500/1000  I raise 2.5k with  Aspades Qh . He flats and the flop comes  Ahrt Qs 6h.  I check he checks on the  Js I bet 2.5k. He raises to  8k and I jam another 8k ish.  He calls it off with 8s 9s and ends my pleasant night say opposite Chilli Maria :(


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 27, 2012, 01:56:53 PM
Not using your "insane edge" yet then ?


I think that phrase will live on for a long time now.



Doing my best to do I i can, however 92o doesn't play too good vs people who dont fold very often.

Just did my first buyin with 99 vs QQ aipf in a 'meh' spot.

INsane edge being saved for day 3!!!! :P
Fml. The guy who called music Tony's QQ jam with A8 just took me to the cleaners. At 500/1000  I raise 2.5k with  Aspades Qh . He flats and the flop comes  Ahrt Qs 6h.  I check he checks on the  Js I bet 2.5k. He raises to  8k and I jam another 8k ish.  He calls it off with 8s 9s and ends my pleasant night say opposite Chilli Maria :(
wow....

that's pretty bad.  Ul...


We did our two bullets at the GP in the following fashion:
1st
- bet fold 99 on 6high board 7 ways
- raise fold A10o pre
- reshove Qh Jh and get it through
- reshove 99 vs laggy UTG and run into QQ

2nd
- open 99's, all fold
- open shove KQ <<< QQ... no K.


Sigh-a-ments...

We were a little naughty yesterday and decided to take one bullet at a .50/1 table that was SUPER soft...
- bet folded KK's..
- wanted to get in 77 pre vs AK, but GreekJack decided to 3bt/ call vs UTG with AQ... wp sir, nice hand.  Flop was AQ7... would have been nice if he just flatted pre like he should have.. (little angry about this particular hand tbh)
- played AK tricky from SB by just calling pre when 5 ways.. then checks round on KJx... (fml) and cc Xo turn... for a J to obviously peel and call villains value bet with  Js 9c for a spectacularly misplayed hand... (when 70bb's deep its tough to get a lot of action from the SB there if im aggro pre..)
- checkraise shoved  9h 7h on  8s 6h 3h and showed the  7h..... to then get a call from  Qh Th. - SUX!

So, de-regged for tonight's Grand Prix and im staying home to grind.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 27, 2012, 10:57:59 PM
Hey all,

been doing some good ol stuff today, got up earlyish wanting to sort out an MOT, send my amazon kindle back, get some grind on, cook some eggs and chicken for my diet... and say hey to the missus as we had an argument yesterday.

[X] booked MOT for tomorrow morning
[X] Sent broken old kindle back, got new one charged!
[X] got grind on
[X] cooked chicken
[X] cooked eggs... deliah smith stylee
[X] Said hello to C, had an argument.... sigh...
[X] Finalled DTD500 again after mini satelliting in again! lost a flip then ran JJ into KK when 5 handed.. SIGH!


playing some more now, have 'frenchiebeni' on here sweating. gl me




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 28, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Played super super solid yesterday, pleno will be proud...

Going to smash the grind again and try to get another 2.5-3.5k hand in today!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 28, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
Just in morrisons after failing MOT...

Cheat day on diet looks tasty, my bro has decided to join.. Pics to follow.

pics added -
food :D :D :D
morrisons on a saturday morning... do normal people seriously do this on a regular basis? seriously? wtf!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 28, 2012, 02:09:26 PM
Apparently I can't even eat badly any more... ive got shakes and a headache coming on and ive only eaten 1/2 a pizza and a few pieces of garlic bread... not looking good for the rest of the day is it??

going to have some chips then ice cream...... glme.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 28, 2012, 10:39:43 PM
I feel like jabba the hut and have been horribly lethargic and generally sloth-ish ever since eating it.... had the ice cream anyways and that put me into a coma...

Just feeling horrible today.


Definitely negatively reinforcing to my brain.



Grinding atm and had a sweat session with Callum or 'that guy from PS' in Goulders video.. :P

Was going well, he reckons im now playing my own hand strength a lot which is obviously an overcompensation for the spew pleno identified (read everything i was doing).

Feels like im playing solid, just need to keep it up and spot 'those spots' that I'm supposed to be abusing.





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on April 29, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
Oioi mate, back in action now. Would you be interested doing a video series? Think it could be quite interesting, we don't have to put it on pokerstrategy we can just make it for fun and would help blondes enjoy your progress as a player whilst hopefully adding nicely to your overall player development.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 29, 2012, 03:21:54 AM
Oioi mate, back in action now. Would you be interested doing a video series? Think it could be quite interesting, we don't have to put it on pokerstrategy we can just make it for fun and would help blondes enjoy your progress as a player whilst hopefully adding nicely to your overall player development.

Would love to, put it wherever mate.... I think the person I am (if i were to look at me) would be interesting poker wise:-

- have always thought i was good
- only through stages of learning realised how sh*t i was previously (at each stage)
- still think like this...
- am apparently clever (passed some tests a long time ago to tell me that)
- have shown a big change in my behaviour over the last 12 months, learning, listening and listening.... (horrendously important it seems, was told this years ago.... didn't listen - my life).
- am improving and yet currently still struggling with micros (its very very hard to win.... sigh)
- am, have, will... put in 100% to this and am fully committed to it
- mental game has never been completely "degen" but after going through some books and vids, figure my mental game is much stronger than most players in general... (i think of it like a fitness, I get angry when my AK chops with K9 aiott on KQK X... but within minutes I'm fine... like a heart rate returning to normal quickly)

Want to get hold of you on a regular basis since I keep getting told you're a solid and decent player.... but just never available!  :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 29, 2012, 03:24:47 AM
Felt horrible today with the 'binge' day and despite looking forward to the 'treats' I haven't eaten half of them as my body has freaked out and rejected it at the first hurdle.... interesting tbh.

#bodywouldntletmeeattheshitiwantedhmmmmmmm

So back on the protein n veg for the rest of the week till next sat, when I think it will just be a normal meal day but ill allow myself anything i want, however I won't "force" the binge like today.

(had a dodgy stomach for much of the day, glad I'm at home and the toilet is near...)

Finally going to bed despite 'going' about 2 hours ago - dammed Top Gear lads keeping me awake.

nn


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 29, 2012, 07:08:04 PM
Got a little more crushed today online.. sigh.  Had a quick chat with Pat and sent him another massive email with hand links in...

Should be a lot less negative than last time i hope - there were a lot of premium hands losing...

Other than that, just played a DTD500 feeder sat and managed to get a double up with AA> KJ aipf, then bust with 10's<22 aipf and 88<99 aipf.  Sigh.. but ill play another a 7 and call it a night.

Shame I haven't been able to grind anywhere near as much as a I wanted to this weekend but lesson learned with regard to the binge day and i can't play when i haven't got any moneys left.  We're down to 2 tables on WPT as the account is that low.

Assuming Pat is happy with the hands we'll top up to $500 i guess.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on April 30, 2012, 11:43:59 PM
haven't had the comments from pat about the hands yet... looking forward to them - bare in mind these are only hands i lost, haven't shown him anything i won.

Grinded 10nl today and had a much more 'normal' session.. might have made a few mistakes in the pots i lost, not sure tbh.  It's hard to tell if its a mistake when there's a villain note/ issue there (i.e. weaker player so i can vbet more)

Feeling good about playing, and don't care what level tbh... just want more time at the pc in order to get my grind on. 

#lovethegame

Just want some positive reinforcement that the changes I've made are correct and that I'm on the 'way'...


Played a DTD500 feeder tonight
- ran into REDDOG doing some strange stuff....
- won a big pot vs RD with A2 vs KQ aipf
- lost two consecutive all ins with KQ vs JJ... couldn't hit for a seat!

played fine and will be getting on them the rest of the week.


Made up some chicken, spinach and baked beans which was pretty tasty and prepped some chicken for the rest of the week.

Pretty tired and going to bed soon... also C asked me to take off a day to do 'something' as a present, I'm not sure what it is but I have a guess, so managed to get Wednesday off with some toil from my flights to and from Islamabad. :D

peace


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on May 01, 2012, 12:56:17 AM
C is far more important than the pokers mate. More importantly you must make her believe she is the most important thing. Keep the balance :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on May 01, 2012, 09:14:55 AM
C is far more important than the pokers mate. More importantly you must make her believe she is the most important thing. Keep the balance :)

Waw, million do this.

Learn to treat shit tests for what they are.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 01, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
C is far more important than the pokers mate. More importantly you must make her believe she is the most important thing. Keep the balance :)

Waw, million do this.

Learn to treat shit tests for what they are.


wtf are you on about nathan??


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 02, 2012, 01:32:37 AM
Been pretty sick today, took the day off as I woke up feeling terrible with a horribly tumultuous tummy.

Few hours kip and some food later and I was feeling much more settled.
So went online and put in some hands, didn't go amazingly but i think i let myself get distracted a bit. I played a bunch of the new dtd500 mini feeders and feeders and found that they're generating more seats than they used to, which is working out really well for me.

Got two seats into tonight's mega sat which is obv good... Then sweated a guy playing his first shot at 50nl zoo.. Which was fun and addictive.  Then we swapped over and I proceeded to win @ 25nl poker!!!!!

Top that off with another dtd500 seat... Tytyty...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 02, 2012, 11:17:21 AM
thazar is a boss.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 02, 2012, 06:24:27 PM
Yeah I picked up a few things from him.. I also suggested a couple of different lines in some spots..

Had some Nandos, n managed to just have chicken and peas. :D

Want to go see Avengers soon!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 02, 2012, 09:54:13 PM
Most ridiculous day....

The suprised turned out to be the Warner Bro's studios that were the home of Harry Potter and I'm a big fan (was 12 when the book came out and still love it today!).

So I raced along in my mum's lil diabled wagon thing (easier to get into/ out of for her) and ragged it down to Harrow at 830am getting to C's at 0953 after being told strictly I must be there for 0940.... woops.

We then race to the studios with me still none-the-wiser and get there with minutes to spare as we turn up to massive WB signs with giant HP logo's and posters and merchandise for a very slick american style studio tour - awesome! 

I'm a big movie fan but a bit of a child (understatement) and as such I let myself get drawn into such things and so forget the scale models, costumes, sets, and sheer work behind the scenes.  So to be here, on set, looking and walking through the 'world' was amazing.  We were in there from 1030 till 1430 and I have loads of photos I'll put a few up later....



In the meantime, the rest of my afternoon has been spent in Nando's Watford having some yummy chicken nom nom nommmm and then C's living room chilling and trying a few dtd feeder satellites.  I know its a little anti-social but with only 3 a month and such a good record in them its a waste of a highly profitable situation to not play.  So i fired up the laptop and began the grind.  I had E110 in there from yesterdays double bink on the feeders and decided to throw it at the wall.  I played a bunch of mini's and feeders getting royally screwed by a certain couple of optimistic recreational players.  :D (nice huh)

I ended up trying to push the timelines to really get one in the 6oclock so that we could drive back up to MK and play the main at home in my birthday suit!

Managed to get ul in the 5 o'clock and then in the 6 ran
-  Js 7s into  Ad Jh bvb with only a few bb's
-  Kc Kh vs  Ad Ac of a recreational player who had just been busted the hand before... sigh.. who then tried a rubdown after winning... stay classy San-Diego!
-   Kc Jd vs  Ad 4d of same player who min/ called 14bb's like a genius.  We flop a K, he turns a 4... but rivers an A for fun #thatshowtheprosdoit
- something else standard.

We get to the 7 o'clock and have £12 or something silly left, and as its not enough to put one last attempt at the 7pm I reload for £10.  In the process of doing so I accidentally reg for the 7pm CL satellite as well as the 500 feeder and while im discussing how to de-register (no button - ty dtd) the sat comes up and I find AQo.  After the girls tell me there's nothing they can do now its started I ship 100bb's aipf over a couple of limps.  Obv a  Qc Jc hero decides to show me whose town this is and call me on my ridiculous bluff.


He proceeds to make 5 parsley and I'm told that is a winning hand.


So we carry on with our one shot at the 500 feeder and play like a genius as usual in these things (entails find big premium hands and use a shovel on our chips).  And as usual we watch people limp/ call, raise/ call and cold call all of their wagering discs before the community cards have arrived with a less than top 10 hand often enough that we get a seat into tonights 8pm monster. - Bink.

Then we start the satellite and two minutes later C is talking to her mum who is not only shocked im in her house but isn't coming home until I'm not there... WTF!

So now we're frantically looking for pubs or cafes that might be open till 2330-ish tonight in order to find a replacement wifi spot as im already in the tournament and non pokering people obv don't understand why you can't just 'stop playing'.... #mustbeaddicted

Phone one place, they have internet but not today.... - useful sir, tyvm.

Second place which is a delicious curry house in Harrow says 'yes, but we're only open until 2230... "that'll do for now i guess."


Get here and get sorted, got wifi connection.... but have to register with 'the cloud' network - WTF.... ffs we're blinding down and probably allowing the recreational players keep their betting discs longer than is fair to the rest of the human race.  So we register and BOOOOM we're up and running but we've lost 1k ish @ 50/100... but whatev's... if it keeps C happy its plenty worth it!

Then we have a hand vs a dtd name I don't know but if its the blonde member of the same name its a very popular blonde, who's a nice guy and has been around poker for a very long time afaik.  He raises EP and I flat, folds around.  Flop is AJJ and he checks, I check back. Brick turn and he leads for 3/5pot, I call.  River is a brick and he leads small again... at this point I now think he has an A or a medium strength SDV hand... I don't expect a J here very often if ever.... and the only monsters are AJ/ AA which are hard to make.  I decide to turn my hand into a bluff as I credibly rep lots here imo (defo wouldnt bet Jx-J10 otf - he needs to catchup obv) and so I raise his 600 > 1200 bet to 4.2k.. Its a fairly decent chunk of my stack but I expect folds here of 90%+ and he should only be shipping those two monsters.  He takes 2 seconds and ships...... SIGGGGGGHHHHHH! down to 3.6k and feeling ridiculous.

Then just as we're ordering our food at the curry place I get  Aspades Qs utd @100/200 and it goes in.  I get ISO'd by  8c 8d (optimistic mate!) and we're off to the races.
I tell C to hold on the food order as im obviously not going to win a race when i need to.

Flop
 Ahrt 8h 3d.....

well definitely hold that food order... we're going.

Turn
 Qd

"well we've got outs but im not expecting much..." 
She's looking at the % in the box on dtd and chewing on her fingernails.......

River
 Qc
"errr...... bink, guess you can order that food!"
C - "phew, I don't think I could handle you in the car being stroppy after all that! - we could have gone home for lots of sex though... shame..."


So now we're properly back in with over 30bb's and happy days!


Food comes and we find 10's again, flat a UTG+2 open (dont like reraising with 30bb's here) and two others come along...  The flop is 7 high rainbow and i shove over his smallish cbet into us figuring his smaller cbet was actually weakness, this might be a mistake here because we're 4 way but I don't like calling or folding here.. and we can't win when we fold!

We shove and he calls quickly with  Qh Qs and we need another miracle.


[ ] miracle came and we won
[X] busy munching on tasty chicken curry and lamb kebab with daal bhaji's! boom!

Super tasty and now ive blogged this I'm going to finish munching then take C home and paint the wall with her! gl girl.

Laters all and gl everyone.. I'll see all Day1A-ers at dtd this weekend for my run @ the big one!  (a decent result would be sooo sweet timing wise!)


peace

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on May 03, 2012, 10:48:49 AM
stay classy San-Diego


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on May 03, 2012, 11:21:07 AM
You use the expression 'recreational players ' as if
A) it's a derogatory one
&
B) it doesn't include you

Maybe we have a different definition in mind?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 03, 2012, 04:44:24 PM
Yer pinchop, I liked it too.... :)

Dave - firstly congratulations on your result at the weekend, I was funking for the win for you! Shame about the final hand, I'd like to talk to you about it next time I see you.

And secondly I'd consider myself a semi-pro these days and I'd call regular winning/ good players like yourself 'regs' so i use the 'recreational player' label for people who enjoy the game without trying to improve or appreciate the variance involved +/or tilt super easily...... These players often are ignorant to the theory, mathematics or analytical nature of the game and as such regularly make inefficient decisions which wcan be profited from if exploited.

Other than that, have a session with pat booked for 7pm so looking forward to that!

Feeling horribly deli-belly today and have spent much of the day on the toilet.... Either going to work or the hospital tomorrow!

jb


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 03, 2012, 04:47:31 PM
why do you consider yourself a semi pro? not saying you aren't, just intrigued..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: millidonk on May 03, 2012, 04:49:33 PM
Harry Potter is shit.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on May 03, 2012, 05:56:03 PM
Yer pinchop, I liked it too.... :)

Yeah I was thinking more of the irony.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: nirvana on May 03, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
Then we have a hand vs a dtd name I don't know but if its the blonde member of the same name its a very popular blonde, who's a nice guy and has been around poker for a very long time afaik.  He raises EP and I flat, folds around.  Flop is AJJ and he checks, I check back. Brick turn and he leads for 3/5pot, I call.  River is a brick and he leads small again... at this point I now think he has an A or a medium strength SDV hand... I don't expect a J here very often if ever.... and the only monsters are AJ/ AA which are hard to make.  I decide to turn my hand into a bluff as I credibly rep lots here imo (defo wouldnt bet Jx-J10 otf - he needs to catchup obv) and so I raise his 600 > 1200 bet to 4.2k.. Its a fairly decent chunk of my stack but I expect folds here of 90%+ and he should only be shipping those two monsters.  He takes 2 seconds and ships...... SIGGGGGGHHHHHH! down to 3.6k and feeling ridiculous.

Not popular
Nice, sometimes
Poker, I guess it might be 9 years now with no signs of improvement

Didn't know that was you but you now have an award as the only poker player I made feel ridic :-)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on May 03, 2012, 06:15:59 PM
why do you consider yourself a semi pro? not saying you aren't, just intrigued..

Me too


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on May 04, 2012, 12:39:25 AM
Ok,.i see the distinction you're making, I think of myself as a recreational/hobbyist but, yeah, whatever. I'm flattered to be seen as a 'reg'

My next weekend pilgrimage seems likely to be for the WSOP weekend by whixh time my aging memory may have lost the thread of last weekend which is a long way of saying send me a message about your thoughts if you would please





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
Shockingly dodgy stomach again... not pleasant.. even feeling weak and even more in need of carbohydrated stodge! Tomorrow is cheat day though so looking forward to Nando's and chips and garlic bread and so on! :D

Managed to sleep on the couch inbetween the grossness while C watches HPdvd's! <3 HP!  Went to the doctors surgery and they couldn't give me an appointment but said to take this 'certificate' with me and give that to work to legitmise my 'week off'.  Sigh.... @ looking like a waster.

Session last night with Pat, Fitzy, and Grant the scottish investment banking dude.. it was sweet.  We discussed some problems/ trouble spots we each find ourselves in with Pat either clearing up our thoughts or suggesting a solution/ line or way to avoid getting in that situation. e.g. one of my 'trouble spots' has been to have a hand like JJ/ QQ oop to a 3bt pre and then flat (to include his bluffs) but then feel uncomfortable calling down on any runout.  So we discussed a way to make this particular spot easier and what we could do vs certain villains and why.

Other than that we did a mini-sweat session on each of myself, Grant and Fitzy.. and went over hands as they came up..  Nothing major or any big issues.. only one 'misplayed' hand where I lead turn and river in a single raised pot where I was out of position and the pre flop raiser checked the K7x Monotone diamond board.  The turn lead was apparently not horrible but better to lead turn and cc river as he should be calling turn with all his big diamonds and he will bluff some % of the time on the river.  But when we bet we take bluff's out of his range unless he raises them....???

Going to try and get a few hands in today if I'm up to it.

Other than that have DTD500 tomorrow and despite feeling horrendous I'm well up for some solid serious tournament action, knowing that I'm more than capable of playing my way through to day2 with a decent stack.... just need my overpair to hold this time. :)


gl me,



Also,
why do you consider yourself a semi pro? not saying you aren't, just intrigued..

Me too

What did you think to my comment yesterday Tony/ Pleno?

Yer pinchop, I liked it too.... :)

Yeah I was thinking more of the irony.

We all had to come through the darkness before it was dawn time sir... I do my best these days to say very very little unless i have a super sociable table or full of hero's... now i've 'grown' into saying little and noting 'their' strategy ideas/ concepts.

Harry Potter is shit.

To be honest mate... gtfo hater (:P).  HP is literally the nuts.  A lot of fun, a little sauceyness, very british and when you 'look down' on it as kids and wands you fail to let yourself get into the world of 'what if' or immerse in the sheer awesomeness of what they've created over the years.  The books are more complicated, compelling and detailed the further into the series you get and as someone who was literally the same age as 'Harry' as they came out I felt like I was growing up with him.  Couple that with a nerdy/ geeky love for fantasy stuff anyways and boom, you got yourself a winnar!


And finally...
Then we have a hand vs a dtd name I don't know but if its the blonde member of the same name its a very popular blonde, who's a nice guy and has been around poker for a very long time afaik.  He raises EP and I flat, folds around.  Flop is AJJ and he checks, I check back. Brick turn and he leads for 3/5pot, I call.  River is a brick and he leads small again... at this point I now think he has an A or a medium strength SDV hand... I don't expect a J here very often if ever.... and the only monsters are AJ/ AA which are hard to make.  I decide to turn my hand into a bluff as I credibly rep lots here imo (defo wouldnt bet Jx-J10 otf - he needs to catchup obv) and so I raise his 600 > 1200 bet to 4.2k.. Its a fairly decent chunk of my stack but I expect folds here of 90%+ and he should only be shipping those two monsters.  He takes 2 seconds and ships...... SIGGGGGGHHHHHH! down to 3.6k and feeling ridiculous.

Not popular
Nice, sometimes
Poker, I guess it might be 9 years now with no signs of improvement

Didn't know that was you but you now have an award as the only poker player I made feel ridic :-)

We have ourselves a culprit.... I would be very interested if you tell me you had anything other than AA or AJ.... as tbh I think anything else in that spot is virtually suicide....???

I have made my note on you in game and will adjust accordingly! :D Funny part is if you bet the flop you stack all my Jx.. but by checking I 100% fold the river with <KJ.  Might be something to consider sometimes.....


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 04, 2012, 01:05:06 PM
HP is the fkn nuts, gtfo haters.

Athough disagree it's "very british" lol


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: millidonk on May 04, 2012, 01:14:45 PM
tbf there is one good thing about HP, later ones especially:

(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/310/2/9/hermione_by_yahina-d329nz2.jpg)



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: DungBeetle on May 04, 2012, 02:24:47 PM
What on earth is a semi-pro?  Surely poker is either your full time income or it isn't.  If you have a job and play 5 nights a week then you are still an amateur with a compulsive attitude to your hobbies.  Not saying this applies either way to this diary which I enjoy but the term "semi -pro" baffles me in regard to poker.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: nirvana on May 04, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
I have made my note on you in game and will adjust accordingly! :D Funny part is if you bet the flop you stack all my Jx.. but by checking I 100% fold the river with <KJ.  Might be something to consider sometimes.....

Gosh, how many Jx's did you have in this hand



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 02:37:26 PM
What on earth is a semi-pro?  Surely poker is either your full time income or it isn't.  If you have a job and play 5 nights a week then you are still an amateur with a compulsive attitude to your hobbies.  Not saying this applies either way to this diary which I enjoy but the term "semi -pro" baffles me in regard to poker.

I feel calling myself and people like me a complete amateur is a misuse of the word... I'm playing a £500 entry tournament tomorrow, I spent x hours/ week playing and researching/ learning or being coached..   To me this shows more than just an interest in my hobby.  It's more like preparing for either being able to become a pro, or making the choice to become a pro.

Poker is not my full term income.  If in your minds then I'm an amateur, so be it.  In mine, I make more effort than most if not all at my level and have managed to enter and will continue to do so larger and larger tournaments - and when better rolled for it bigger and bigger cash games.

My diary, my terminology. :D

Just had a session of 6 tabling 10nl as I'm playing a tighter style and despite being 2.5bi's up for 3/4 of the session I lost 3bi's in the last quarter, one was understandable (55 vs AA on A52ss) and the other two were a combination of one spewy preflop hand and another good triple barrel spot on 10109 as pfr in 3bp - sigh.

Much more positive over the rest of the session, couldn't get any action on my AA or most of my AK's pre.. nvm, next session soon....


Also Milligan, you may be correct that Emma Watson is clearly a greater positive later on in the season but for me watching the films with C its funny because I think she is like that with her properly enunciated words and correct gramma! :D

 


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 02:38:05 PM
I have made my note on you in game and will adjust accordingly! :D Funny part is if you bet the flop you stack all my Jx.. but by checking I 100% fold the river with <KJ.  Might be something to consider sometimes.....

Gosh, how many Jx's did you have in this hand


.... any hand forthcoming?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 04, 2012, 02:45:19 PM
one spewy preflop hand and another good triple barrel spot on 10109 as pfr in 3bp - sigh.


HHs or GTFO

#fortheJBfans


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 02:47:11 PM
***** Hand History for Game 11714351434 *****
$10 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 04, 14:14:18 BST 2012
Table Table  201369 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 6: Ameglor ( $10.15 USD )
Seat 1: FRUSTU ( $21.93 USD )
Seat 4: UnluckyKid ( $10 USD )
Seat 3: alex240973 ( $0 USD )
Seat 2: binkmepls ( $10 USD )
Seat 5: dzeumchiya ( $10 USD )
binkmepls posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
UnluckyKid posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to binkmepls [  8d 8s ]
Ameglor folds
FRUSTU raises [$0.30 USD]
binkmepls raises [$0.95 USD]
UnluckyKid folds
FRUSTU calls [$0.70 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, Th, Tc ]
binkmepls bets [$1.40 USD]
FRUSTU calls [$1.40 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
binkmepls bets [$2.45 USD]
FRUSTU calls [$2.45 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]
binkmepls is all-In  [$5.15 USD]
FRUSTU calls [$5.15 USD]
binkmepls shows [ 8d, 8s ]two pairs, Tens and Eights.
FRUSTU shows [ Qh, Qd ]two pairs, Queens and Tens.
FRUSTU wins $19.10 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Queens and Tens.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 04, 2012, 02:48:54 PM
 :redcard:

before you bet, ask why.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 04, 2012, 02:50:41 PM
<3 JB

MOOARRRRR


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 02:55:55 PM
:redcard:

before you bet, ask why.

we discussed this yesterday, no?

We bet flop because we can have the best hand a lot... when he flats and calls turn he can have a lot of single pair hands that can't call 3 bets so we adjust our turn bet size accordingly to give us a decent sized river bet....
he can even have a lot of Jx hands that were air/ guttys otf but won't call a third barrel.

Then otr surely its now a manditory shove as played because we don't beat any of his SDV hands he will ckb.. and he shouldn't have AA, KK, QQ enough for it to be horrid vs his AJ/ KJ/ 99/ 77 type hands...


no?


Also, he took a while to call with QQ, I think he didn't like the spot either... maybe it looks too much like AA/KK or 10x......???


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 04, 2012, 02:57:29 PM
nope on the river he wont fold a single hand that you beat.. the river is a lot lot closer to a c/call than a shove, by shoving we eliminate all of his draws from continuing.

its spew.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 04, 2012, 02:59:50 PM
he MIGHT fold 99.

sure will fold KJ+


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 02:59:55 PM
nope on the river he wont fold a single hand that you beat.. the river is a lot lot closer to a c/call than a shove, by shoving we eliminate all of his draws from continuing.

its spew.

ok, so what would have been the 'nut' line on this board vs a btn open/call with no reads.  We said we'd be 3bt-ing or folding the pp's from the SB to prevent squeezes, and i think 88 are too strong to be passing pre to btn open from any 'normal' player.

did I misunderstand something about the 'triple' spots then... what would be a good example pls mate?



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 04, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
oh and "preflop spew" hand pls.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
he MIGHT fold 99.

sure will fold KJ+

getting into trouble now... thanks sir! :P

having only 1 of these kinda hands/ 600 in a session is a monstrous improvement.. and I defo think I get folds in this spot a decent chunk... So rare for 10nl players to flat a premium in spots like this.

oh and "preflop spew" hand pls.

No, in enough trouble.... needless to say I misclicked btn vs utg and then took off.  Want to ship $10 to pleno for that one.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 04, 2012, 03:15:14 PM
post the pre flop hand..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on May 04, 2012, 03:16:20 PM
he MIGHT fold 99.

sure will fold KJ+

getting into trouble now... thanks sir! :P

having only 1 of these kinda hands/ 600 in a session is a monstrous improvement.. and I defo think I get folds in this spot a decent chunk... So rare for 10nl players to flat a premium in spots like this.

oh and "preflop spew" hand pls.

No, in enough trouble.... needless to say I misclicked btn vs utg and then took off.  Want to ship $10 to pleno for that one.



Why are you EVER trying to barrel someone off of a hand better than 88 on TT6J3 at 10NL!?!?!?!?!

I wouldn't do this ever (not without realising it's a horrid line) at 200NL. It's so rare that 3-barrelling will be profitable at 10NL. I'm sure you are aware that you are playing a limit whereby players leaks will be to over-value marginal hands and peel too much pre. The idea of barreling off 3-streets and thinking it's good seems counter-intuitive. You can play exploitably and never fire a 3rd bullet when you don't have it... you wont get exploited. 25NL and lower it's all about knowing when to value-bet, not when to stick it in someone's eye.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 04, 2012, 03:16:53 PM
he MIGHT fold 99.

sure will fold KJ+

getting into trouble now... thanks sir! :P

having only 1 of these kinda hands/ 600 in a session is a monstrous improvement.. and I defo think I get folds in this spot a decent chunk... So rare for 10nl players to flat a premium in spots like this.

oh and "preflop spew" hand pls.

No, in enough trouble.... needless to say I misclicked btn vs utg and then took off.  Want to ship $10 to pleno for that one.



I almost wanna pay the $10 just to hear the HH
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn283/Cudy_1986/buffypopcorn.gif)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 04, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
we said a good 3 barrel spot would be good with 10 high on 932 when we cbet and the baord runs out qx, kx, ax.

We never have the best hand on the river and can get lots of hands to fold, with 88 we are jamming river hoping he has 99 and folds which is obviously really bad.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 04, 2012, 03:19:31 PM
it doesnt matter what the limits are, tripping 8's here will never be good.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 04, 2012, 03:22:23 PM
+ 1 to Sir Thomas High.

Picking the spewy bluffs off and making good value bets is how we make money here.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 03:31:13 PM
agreed... here is the shame of the session.  

Alex owes pleno $10 for this.... (ggrrrrr)


***** Hand History for Game 11714308153 *****
$10 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 04, 13:54:06 BST 2012
Table Table  201377 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5/6
Seat 6: BlindOne13 ( $23.82 USD )
Seat 4: Briedis000 ( $10.52 USD )
Seat 2: WillyC666 ( $10.82 USD )
Seat 3: binkmepls ( $10.17 USD )
Seat 5: poker123abc99 ( $3.25 USD )
Briedis000 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
poker123abc99 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to binkmepls [  4d 2d ]
BlindOne13 raises [$0.40 USD]
WillyC666 folds
binkmepls raises [$0.70 USD]
Briedis000 folds
poker123abc99 folds
BlindOne13 raises [$1.60 USD]
binkmepls raises [$4.40 USD]
BlindOne13 is all-In  [$21.82 USD]
binkmepls is all-In  [$5.07 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Ac, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
binkmepls shows [ 4d, 2d ]two pairs, Fives and Fours.
BlindOne13 shows [ Qd, Qs ]two pairs, Queens and Fives.
BlindOne13 wins $13.65 USD from the side pot 1 with two pairs, Queens and Fives.
BlindOne13 wins $19.49 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Queens and Fives.


Was trying to flat pre as I'd played a few hands vs this villain and was pretty happy in my read that he was a looser reg than most... If I'd have peeled pre, I would have at least called this flop, if not raised and obv woulda won the pot... but sigh @ misclick/ takeoff.  Doesn't happen/ won't happen again.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 04, 2012, 03:33:25 PM
wut


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 04, 2012, 03:38:53 PM
agreed... here is the shame of the session. 

Alex owes pleno $10 for this.... (ggrrrrr)


***** Hand History for Game 11714308153 *****
$10 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 04, 13:54:06 BST 2012
Table Table  201377 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5/6
Seat 6: BlindOne13 ( $23.82 USD )
Seat 4: Briedis000 ( $10.52 USD )
Seat 2: WillyC666 ( $10.82 USD )
Seat 3: binkmepls ( $10.17 USD )
Seat 5: poker123abc99 ( $3.25 USD )
Briedis000 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
poker123abc99 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to binkmepls [  4d 2d ]
BlindOne13 raises [$0.40 USD]
WillyC666 folds
binkmepls raises [$0.70 USD]
Briedis000 folds
poker123abc99 folds
BlindOne13 raises [$1.60 USD]
binkmepls raises [$4.40 USD]
BlindOne13 is all-In  [$21.82 USD]
binkmepls is all-In  [$5.07 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Ac, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
binkmepls shows [ 4d, 2d ]two pairs, Fives and Fours.
BlindOne13 shows [ Qd, Qs ]two pairs, Queens and Fives.
BlindOne13 wins $13.65 USD from the side pot 1 with two pairs, Queens and Fives.
BlindOne13 wins $19.49 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Queens and Fives.


Was trying to flat pre as I'd played a few hands vs this villain and was pretty happy in my read that he was a looser reg than most... If I'd have peeled pre, I would have at least called this flop, if not raised and obv woulda won the pot... but sigh @ misclick/ takeoff.  Doesn't happen/ won't happen again.


 ;karabiner; ;thankyou;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 04, 2012, 03:40:20 PM
I don't get the sizing, you 4b to $4.40 playing $10 total so you commit yourself to calling?

anyway, nh ul.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 03:45:42 PM
I don't get the sizing, you 4b to $4.40 playing $10 total so you commit yourself to calling?

anyway, nh ul.

Yeah wanted to maximise FE but knew i was committing when i did get shoved on.  At this level whenever people bet like I did, they just have AA 100%.

For the record Pat, I apologise for this hand.



Going to get the car now, back in a bit.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on May 04, 2012, 04:02:50 PM
I like the way you were going to peel a UTG open with 42 because 'he was one of the looser regs'.
He's opening 23 a lot UTG then?

Do you think many 10NL players have 4-bet folding ranges? I'm going to take the under on 5 players.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 04, 2012, 05:23:06 PM
I like the way you were going to peel a UTG open with 42 because 'he was one of the looser regs'.
He's opening 23 a lot UTG then?

Do you think many 10NL players have 4-bet folding ranges? I'm going to take the under on 5 players.
vs me people do..... I've been splashy in the past and made regs do all sorts of 'strange things' - that was at 25nl though.


probably right though thigh.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Junior Senior on May 04, 2012, 07:10:59 PM
I find this diary interesting, will look forward to seeing how the story develops.
Good luck



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 04, 2012, 07:37:06 PM
wut

yeah, pretty much this.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 05, 2012, 02:49:20 AM
im looking forward to seeing you tomorrow JB. #myfavouritespewmonkey <3


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on May 05, 2012, 09:45:57 AM
The thing I like/ admire most about this diary is the honesty with which it is written ,mistakes and weird moves are all freely admitted ,hopefully lesson learnt by them as well ,as we have all done them / tried them ,it does open you up for a bit of  pi55 taking/ banter ,which you seem to take well ?
Gl today at dtd


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 05, 2012, 06:39:22 PM
Thanks Tony.. I try. Its because I think blonde is a great environment to learn, play and experiment.....

Currently chip leader in dtd500... 123K avg is 40k... :D

Legggggoooooooo!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 05, 2012, 08:27:53 PM
getttttttttttttttt


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 05, 2012, 09:52:10 PM
Here's our hero up to his old tricks :D

For the nth time Campbell button raises to 3,100
for the 3rd time John Black 3bets from the small blind to 9,500
"I must be at it this time, I've done it twice" says John, I believe one of the times he showed a deuce
Campbell playing 50k makes it 22k. Blak puts him in snapped by Campbell
Black -  2h 2d
Campbell -  Ad Aspades
Aces hold, slight set back for Black.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 05, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
(facepalm)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: JGill_DTD on May 05, 2012, 11:58:42 PM
(facepalm)

who else but John Black

 ;starwars;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 06, 2012, 12:12:47 AM
Campbell playing 50k makes it 22k. Blak puts him in snapped by Campbell
Black -  2h 2d

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, anything but the ducks here!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 06, 2012, 12:16:57 AM
Hopefuuly it's inaccurate reporting



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 06, 2012, 12:57:02 AM
Campbell playing 50k makes it 22k. Blak puts him in snapped by Campbell
Black -  2h 2d

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, anything but the ducks bullets here!

fyp


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 06, 2012, 02:43:14 AM
quite accurate reporting, mis-read announced.

I didn't think he had a pair... was happy to flip vs this particular villain if he has A/K high... but making him fold his J10s or 97s would be ideal.

Made a mistake, one all day.  Funny part is i didnt spew anywhere else, not preflop, postflop or anything.... its like i wrapped an entire days spew and balled it up into one hand... then gifted him 80% of 100k. sigh he kept it all.

35 first two cards out... thought 'this is it, we're winning this one too'..... wasnt to be.

I want to say "oh i played sick good today...!" but to be honest, I'm pretty sure I just heatered the whole day in ridiculous spots and played solid.

Best spot had to be

UTG opens 450, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls 450, fold, fold, I peel  Ks Kh and reraise 1900 (playing 55k).... David L'honore (sick online mtt player playing 25k) makes it 4700, total random in BB makes it 11000 straight.... UTG fold, MP1 folds....

I tank, tank, tannnnnnkkkkkk.... working out exact pot sizes on each street if i do x, or y, or z... vs each opponent and play the entire hand out both preflop and post if i take all my logical options (call or raise, :P).

Then I raise to 18500, and Dave puke folds.... the dude in BB now sigh shoves for 18K more... I snap and he shows us the  Qh Qd.


We hold and EZZZZ game up to 80k when the avg is 32k.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: LonOhRay on May 06, 2012, 11:21:34 AM

Best spot had to be

UTG opens 450, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls 450, fold, fold, I peel  Ks Kh and reraise 1900 (playing 55k).... David L'honore (sick online mtt player playing 25k) makes it 4700, total random in BB makes it 11000 straight.... UTG fold, MP1 folds....

I tank, tank, tannnnnnkkkkkk.... working out exact pot sizes on each street if i do x, or y, or z... vs each opponent and play the entire hand out both preflop and post if i take all my logical options (call or raise, :P).

Then I raise to 18500, and Dave puke folds.... the dude in BB now sigh shoves for 18K more... I snap and he shows us the  Qh Qd.


We hold and EZZZZ game up to 80k when the avg is 32k.


Lol at description, there's 0 excuse for the 22, he never has JT, 97, any pair <JJ when his sizing is 44% of his stack. No fold equity there at all. But at least that was the only one :)

Talking about isoing the weaker players not long before this hand, and you were saying only opportunity you would get to do it is vs EP opens, had BB not woken up with his hand I was obv getting it in with you and chopping the pot :)

Again there's no need for the "work out each pot sizes etc" he's put in 11k out of his 27 as a COLD 5 BET - from bb - without doing much else previously. I'd just be hating life with Kings but obv flicking it in with your 80k at the time or w/e.



GL monday, minimal spew - do you have the majority of your action seeing as you won a seat? Hope you do :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 06, 2012, 12:21:21 PM

Best spot had to be

UTG opens 450, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls 450, fold, fold, I peel  Ks Kh and reraise 1900 (playing 55k).... David L'honore (sick online mtt player playing 25k) makes it 4700, total random in BB makes it 11000 straight.... UTG fold, MP1 folds....

I tank, tank, tannnnnnkkkkkk.... working out exact pot sizes on each street if i do x, or y, or z... vs each opponent and play the entire hand out both preflop and post if i take all my logical options (call or raise, :P).

Then I raise to 18500, and Dave puke folds.... the dude in BB now sigh shoves for 18K more... I snap and he shows us the  Qh Qd.


We hold and EZZZZ game up to 80k when the avg is 32k.


Lol at description, there's 0 excuse for the 22, he never has JT, 97, any pair <JJ when his sizing is 44% of his stack. No fold equity there at all. But at least that was the only one :)

Talking about isoing the weaker players not long before this hand, and you were saying only opportunity you would get to do it is vs EP opens, had BB not woken up with his hand I was obv getting it in with you and chopping the pot :)

Again there's no need for the "work out each pot sizes etc" he's put in 11k out of his 27 as a COLD 5 BET - from bb - without doing much else previously. I'd just be hating life with Kings but obv flicking it in with your 80k at the time or w/e.



GL monday, minimal spew - do you have the majority of your action seeing as you won a seat? Hope you do :)

Appreciate the comments and the gl, i would however contest the above points slightly...

There was some history with us two - includinging 3bt SB vs Btn and showing a  2d and some other stuff.... so 'he can' have spews/ random hands he doesnt want to give up with/ but doesn't know how to play....  live reads ftw, and the cold 5bt was lovely... I was super happy about KK, but more worried about L'honore in the SB cold 4-ing me... as he is a very good tournament player, a mate and we often have pieces of each other..... so in this spot he's never ever <JJ or AQ... which is a scary range when I know he's not getting QQ in if i come over the top.

- Also in the 22 hand, we were both eating food and I picked up 'something' that in my mind told me he had a high card type hand... I was happy to flip for 1/3 my stack IF he called.  Turned out I was wrong and he had DEM ACES! nvm.

Who are you btw? :)




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 06, 2012, 12:25:57 PM
none off this changes the fact you have the nut low hand, and have ignored the most blatent bet-sizing tell i history :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 06, 2012, 12:31:40 PM
What would you do with 22-99 here if you didn't want to just call pre vs a randomly spazzy player oop?

and if you 3bt what do you do when he clicks it and you think he doesn't have a pair?



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: LonOhRay on May 06, 2012, 02:21:49 PM
What would you do with 22-99 here if you didn't want to just call pre vs a randomly spazzy player oop?

and if you 3bt what do you do when he clicks it and you think he doesn't have a pair?



If hes a random spazzy player with 45bbs I will happily call pre and let him be randomly spazzy when I make my set and stack him as 3b/5b or 3b/c is just moronic spew at this stage in this tournament with <nut hands

L'Honoré also had KK in the 3b 4b 5b 6b hand ;) Doesn't want the table to know he'd fold that one


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 06, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
What would you do with 22-99 here if you didn't want to just call pre vs a randomly spazzy player oop?

and if you 3bt what do you do when he clicks it and you think he doesn't have a pair?



If hes a random spazzy player with 45bbs I will happily call pre and let him be randomly spazzy when I make my set and stack him as 3b/5b or 3b/c is just moronic spew at this stage in this tournament with <nut hands

L'Honoré also had KK in the 3b 4b 5b 6b hand ;) Doesn't want the table to know he'd fold that one

lollers... love that to be true about Dave.

probably better i guess with the pairs, didn't want to wait for a set, wanted him to get his KJ and eyeball me and I snap with 22 and be the heroooo! :D

tomorrow then!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 06, 2012, 09:35:13 PM
I had two hands that involved live reads. One I was correct and felt awesome. Second one he owned me and I wanted my mummy. Live reads are v.rarely certain, but lead me to call instead of fold when its close. Unless you find a super slam dunk Oreo tell


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 06, 2012, 11:35:53 PM
I had two hands that involved live reads. One I was correct and felt awesome. Second one he owned me and I wanted my mummy. Live reads are v.rarely certain, but lead me to call instead of fold when its close. Unless you find a super slam dunk Oreo tell

I have one on a Luton reg and when he does it I just start shovelling money into the pot.... biggest case of this was I had  2s 3c on a  Ad Kh 7h board and just kept piling money in till the river, when I shoved my last £220 as a pot bet and he snap folded.  Solid read evidenced over lots of hands, but now when i see it - I literally set the countdown to 10 secs then take off!

:D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 07, 2012, 10:21:52 AM
What would you do with 22-99 here if you didn't want to just call pre vs a randomly spazzy player oop?

and if you 3bt what do you do when he clicks it and you think he doesn't have a pair?

Firstly don't think people don't have pairs, people can always have pairs. You're right what you say, that 22-99are "good hands to 3b/5b jam as you usually have 30% against even a pretty tight 4b/calling range - HOWEVER, and the one massive thing you've missed is that this is when you have FOLD EQUITY, here, despite what you seen to think, you have no fold equity, he is calling 999/1000, and when he folds he is prolly folding TT lol. So even given your ridic read that he has NO PAIRS ever we're flipping for 90bigs for no reason at all.

You need to run the equitys here, vs a 3bet range that only includes QQ-AA you are doing pretty meh, there is just really really no need - 22 is NOT a good hand, it's actually if you do equity work with it, a very poor hand, it's strength comes from everyone having deep stacks and you flopping a 2, don't go around getting 45 big in with it without good reason.


probably better i guess with the pairs, didn't want to wait for a set, wanted him to get his KJ and eyeball me and I snap with 22 and be the heroooo! :D

why why whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy delilah

dobedobedobedobedo


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: George2Loose on May 07, 2012, 10:46:16 AM
22 hand is just cringe. Call pre ainec. I know exactly why 3 bet/5 bet. Cos when he folds (which he never was going to do) you can show him the 2 again.

His sizing is pretty terrible. He's made it an easy fold for you. He should just be clicking it back or jamming.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 07, 2012, 10:55:15 AM
22 hand is just cringe. Call pre ainec. I know exactly why 3 bet/5 bet. Cos when he folds (which he never was going to do) you can show him the 2 again.

His sizing is pretty terrible. He's made it an easy fold for you. He should just be clicking it back or jamming.

all of this, especially showing the deuce.

dont talk, dont spew. just grind, value bet and win. im all for having a laugh at poker and having a good time, but when it has a huge detrimental effect of your game it should be headphones on and mouth zipped time.

all of forum funking for you hard today mate. lego.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 07, 2012, 12:30:43 PM
Showing the deuce has future implied odds though imo ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 07, 2012, 01:24:43 PM
Showing the deuce has future implied odds though imo ;)

dont alex, please:D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 07, 2012, 01:24:53 PM
all of forum funking for you hard today mate. lego.

yesssss


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 07, 2012, 01:39:26 PM
GL JOHN!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on May 07, 2012, 01:54:41 PM
BLLOOOOOOOOOW coming!!

No, joking I am. gogogogo John!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on May 07, 2012, 10:08:59 PM
Pissflaps of hell. sigh

Next time bud.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 07, 2012, 11:19:39 PM
proud of u bro


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 08, 2012, 01:10:54 AM
Thanks all, gave it my best shot and played the best I ever have.  Shame I couldn't go further, ill make some notes tonight and do a trip report during the week.

:D :D :D

didnt win £60k tonight, but did get a flag! and did bust a live comp with a 'good spot'.

:D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 08, 2012, 11:58:23 PM
This is a graph from tonights zoom session... the first big down is a pre flop bluff that went wrong.

Stopped doing that and then played for value and you can see some good stuff.  The big wins are often some sexily played big pairs or slowplayed hands that went well. 

Felt good overall but feels sick to put in so many hands on just a few tables.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 09, 2012, 12:23:52 AM
the first big down is a pre flop bluff that went wrong.

you know what I'm going to say.

HH OR GTFO!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 09, 2012, 01:06:34 AM
http://wt.ag/JcByCM - mini spew.... :D

Not the best get in ever recorded, but we had more outs after the flop than pre..... we now had 1. :D



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on May 09, 2012, 01:14:22 AM
mini? Not sure that's entirely accurate.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 09, 2012, 01:18:55 AM
http://wt.ag/JcByCM - mini spew.... :D

Not the best get in ever recorded, but we had more outs after the flop than pre..... we now had 1. :D



Not that bad, the guy knows it looks really strong so can have plenty of air in his range.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 09, 2012, 03:28:54 AM
lol ok Alex if you say so mate


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 09, 2012, 03:39:55 AM
lol ok Alex if you say so mate

given up tapping the tank mate ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 09, 2012, 09:57:39 AM
http://wt.ag/JcByCM - mini spew.... :D

Not the best get in ever recorded, but we had more outs after the flop than pre..... we now had 1. :D



whattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt?!!?!?!?!??!

/headexplode



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 09, 2012, 10:06:39 AM
you should have folded 3 times already and you haven't even seen a flop, very hard to do.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 10, 2012, 12:41:11 AM
Watching some pokerstrategy 25nl videos as there is a series on there with Twicet commentating on how the sessions were played over an 8 part series.

Its on the same network i play on so looking forward to seeing how i should play... :D  Most of the DC or BF vids I have are all 100nl+ and obv I've tried some 'funky' stuff that won't be profitable as a result of misinterpreting that.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 10, 2012, 10:08:06 AM
insert clapping gif


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 10, 2012, 01:38:15 PM
Had a scare with something @ work but all sorted and approved now.. I had some stuff outstanding from Oct 2010.

Managed to get this afternoon and tomorrow off and I'll be grinding/ sorting out Stag do/ other life stuff...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 10, 2012, 02:43:59 PM
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=133383

sick week sir.... wpwp


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 10, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=133383

sick week sir.... wpwp

must be alrite, I played a hilarious pot with him in vegas 500big blinds at 10/20/40 I had  7c 2c he had  3h 4d


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 10, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
back by poplar demand, part 2 of John Blacks biggest losing recent hands coming up..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: edgascoigne on May 10, 2012, 03:41:54 PM
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=133383

sick week sir.... wpwp

This can't be real?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 10, 2012, 03:49:47 PM
back by poplar demand, part 2 of John Blacks biggest losing recent hands coming up..

Nommm nommm


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 10, 2012, 03:52:39 PM
1) http://weaktight.com/4625795   fine obv
2) http://weaktight.com/4625791  yep
3) http://weaktight.com/4625780 cant be terrible
4) http://weaktight.com/4625778 turn is a fold as we discussed c/raises on turns are not bluff lines and we're almost always drawing dead here
5) http://weaktight.com/4625757 wp, ul
6) http://weaktight.com/4625745 no idea wtf you're doing here on any streets, definitely spew
7) http://weaktight.com/4625741 see when they raise the turn they have it :) not terrible tho ofc
8) http://weaktight.com/4625739 probably just peel to the min 4bet
9) http://weaktight.com/4625737 just call flop raise, there are no scary turns and if hes bluffing then we blow him off the pot
9) http://weaktight.com/4625726 definitely bad at 25nl, also you are 3betting aq here but not aa in the hand before?
10) http://weaktight.com/4625724 tis fine, flattring flop may be best as we have As
11) http://weaktight.com/4625846 ul
12) http://weaktight.com/4625845 ul
13) http://weaktight.com/4625843 too thin, 3bet pre we have aa
14) http://weaktight.com/4625837 fold pre. why are you jamming the flop? bad.
15) http://weaktight.com/4625835 flop is far too thin just call
16) http://weaktight.com/4625829 terrible, why are we 3betting the flop,. onyl reason would be to buy free river but then you ebt turn
17) http://weaktight.com/4625825 ul, bigger otf though
18) http://weaktight.com/4625822 just call turn
19) http://weaktight.com/4625821 hard spot, turn is close
20) http://weaktight.com/4625820 we
21) http://weaktight.com/4625816 bad bad bad, fold pre
22) http://weaktight.com/4625812 ulul
23) http://weaktight.com/4625806 wow this is huge spew, use pokerstove..
24) http://weaktight.com/4625803 river is close to being a valuecut, probably not terrible, but maybe overepping here


15 more to come..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 10, 2012, 03:56:30 PM
Seems much improved, wp John!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 10, 2012, 05:09:48 PM

6) http://weaktight.com/4625745 no idea wtf you're doing here on any streets, definitely spew


defo my favourite <3


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 10, 2012, 06:25:40 PM

6) http://weaktight.com/4625745 no idea wtf you're doing here on any streets, definitely spew


defo my favourite <3

In this hand I tried to rep AK or another big hand...

From the flop and turn action i surmised he had a 1p hand.. and knew that it wouldn't be able to take much heat on most rivers.  On this river I really winced and didn't like it much, then started to think and go through my stats on him.  I can't remember what I saw but something to do with his fold to cbet i think lead me to believe he could have ANY pair on this turn, but figured he would fold to a river bet so much that the turn would be profitable IF and only IF i double barelled here always.  So i figured that i won't shove (would've done previously) that I need only bet this amount, maybe slightly less and that he will fold enough to make the rest of the hand profitable.  If I am correct then sigh - I ran into a 9 THIS time... but aren't we being range orientated and don't you think vs his 'range' we're going to win this pot ----- a lot!?

Obviously its not just blind aggression, but since our hand doesn't matter in this instance, I wouldn't want to take a medium strength value hand like A10 or 10's in this spot and bluff with it but in this case surely the 105o is the perfect candidate, no?

Am I just going batshit crazy and we shouldn't ever try to do this kind of thing? or is it a principle applied incorrectly? 

One thing I definitely try to do now is make sure I always have some % equity vs ANY hand where possible when I do anything remotely bluffy.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 10, 2012, 06:42:45 PM
Am I just going batshit crazy and we shouldn't ever try to do this kind of thing?


(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/UnknownFact/9i9UJ.gif)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 10, 2012, 07:05:44 PM
Seems much improved, wp John!
tyvm mate... i am.  And this weekends deepstack is a direct result of a much more value orientated game.  Apparently when people don't fold a lot, we should just play for value and they neither notice nor care that we haven't played a hand for an hour they still call when we raise rivers with  Ahrt Qd

on

 Qd Jh 3c 8c 3s


and we win lots of chippies....

Shame about running into Bedi but tbh I think i played near optimally the entire day, opened so much some times it was insane... think best was something like 6 hands in a row.... no one did anything about it then i calmed down and they didn't even notice the lack of me in the pot.  Only person that did was Tom L who asked for a JB update on the thread... Just as I was raking a top3 stack in! :D :D :D

I can't thank all the blonde hero's enough for their kind words and comments over the weekend, and the rail! C even asked if she should get a train up to rail the FT... I was so chuffed and seeing her there with her 6" heels on and im sure something inappropriately awesome would've been the topping on the cake should I have made the FT, but instead I decided to give G2L a £30k gift I'm told in ICM that is.... thanks L'honore, so glad I now know that :D


Stag do Stuff
So have a stag do to sort and be part of this weekend for my mate Aaron, in Northampton.  We're going to do quad biking or something in the morning and a comedy gig in the afternoon... then out for a night on the toon with all the lads and a few dads!  Today I managed to pickup a bunch of random 'props' to use on the night out IF i can't get hold of some simple but cool themed Jumpsuits (he's in RAF).
We have the following:
- pom poms
- pimp cane
- glitzy microphone
- Sheppard's crook
- an oscar style statue
- union jack hat
- giant syringe
- massive pretend balla gold chain
- caveman club
- inflatable guitar
- some tatoo spray paint (safer than using the stags actual tatoo needles - being removed from house by the bride2be) and a little white 'forfeit' dress....

So the plan is to give each 'thing' a number and pick numbers out of a hat.. then people will be assigned that object for the next x amount of hours and they can use its 'special power' to force a member of the group (generally stag) to enact the power... e.g. the oscar statue will make someone stand up and do a winners speach for the activity they're doing like drinking or the food they're eating etc...

By rotating the props every 2/3 hours we won't get anyone dejected all day because they can only make someone sing the national anthem or something.

Couple this with whatever drinking games I can get away with and whatever drinking rules I can remember and we should be sorted!
- left hand rule
- thumbmaster
- tell her
- pinkies up
- aussie rules
- etc etc etc...

any further suggestions are more than welcome..

Also, if we win a dtd150 seat tonight then we're going to be playing tomorrow night and as such will be battered for the stag-do and have to hurry our ass up to get to DTD for day2 should we make it.... hmmm.... not sure if its worth it.




Todays satellite progess/ cash grind
Played lots and lost many hands.. we've run deepish in a few but no we've realised we're going to be here for the chipleader tournament I figured I'd give it a go..
[ ] going well so far
[ ] got it in bad all the time
[ ] matters....

Think we lost something like 4 flips in a row all in before the community cards before we took one back for the good guys, and that was vs one of the best 'regs' ive noticed on the site so that was nice.

They've all been for big stacks at crucial times, but c'est la vie... this is the game.  Tbh i dont think ive even flinched or gotten frustrated or anything at any of them.  When something is super super standard I just say 'oh that's a shame' and carry on. GREAT MENTAL TEKKERS ITT!


Other than that finally got hu in a golden chip Grand Prix sat and felt like i was crushing the guy, he then goes on to donk donk donk  Ks 3s on  Ahrt Th 2s... and by the river my  Ac Jc is not the best hand - wp sir... mustve known i guess.
Then we got it in with  Ac Qd vs  7d 7h to return to same stacks and we do not win - sigh... wp we won E45 tho which is a nice return and pays for 2/3 of the small sat's we've played.  Just need to win our entry into the bigger ones tonight to make the day a winnar!

So back to it and as a present for reading, enjoy these.... courtesy of my grind 'group'.

Kinda ok - http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/238/423/a4e.jpg

NSFW - http://i.imgur.com/H1w9Q.gif

NSFW - http://i.imgur.com/kqtVW.gif

and enjoy this little pleaser...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw&feature=player_embedded#




For the mature among you who don't appreciate that kind of thing.. I'm told this is a beauty in her field....
http://yosemitevalleyrailroad.com/MERCED.RAILROADS/MercedRR.html



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 10, 2012, 07:08:33 PM
Am I just going batshit crazy and we shouldn't ever try to do this kind of thing?


(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy192/UnknownFact/9i9UJ.gif)

why?

break it down for me please... it obviously seems so simple to you guys.. but ive worked out his range and that his range can't take much more heat...


So surely we pile da moneys in until he folds no?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 10, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
i mean, u have T5o. just check behind pre and fold most flops, lose 1bb. seems pretty simple


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 10, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
i mean, u have T5o. just check behind pre and fold most flops, lose 1bb. seems pretty simple

our cards are irrellevant... im asking what do we do in this spot vs this op who we know to have a wide range getting to the river but that he will fold to a decent sized river bet with turn and river aggression a large % of the time...



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on May 10, 2012, 09:07:35 PM
You dont really rep much and he has shown he has some SD value.

Pre:

Bad... picked a rubbish hand to raise and inflate the pot with. You can massively wide here. But T5o is just crap and will always be such


Flop:

Flopped nothing, he's donked... give up here. People dont donk without some sort of pair/draw. You have T-high. Instead you flat... not sure what hands you are flatting here with? What is your plan at this stage? There has to be a range you are assigning villain and a range you are planning to rep on certain board runouts. Eg. What would you be doing with over-pairs here? Think about what hands you are actually going to be legitimately flatting here with.


Turn:

What hands are you flatting flop that are raising the A turn? If you flatted flop with an over-pair you are not raising this turn for value. Any draws you had otf are not raising this turn. So now you are repping A6, A7, A9 and sets, possiby some AhXh hands (although villain could easily have all of these hands too).


River:

You still basically rep nothing and a bunch of his pair+draw flop hands / 2pr hands otf have improved. What do you think he has when you are betting here? He can have all full-houses except AA or 99, straights, 8x has bricked, but there arent many 8x hands that havnt hit straights or 89. He can have 67 which he folds, 6hXh. Much more often he has 9x. What can you have? A9, 89 or sets. That is it. Flush draw has bricked, so has the SD, so he will call lighter. + as said this river has strengthened his range considerably in relation to you.

lets not forget, you have T5o and have just created this horrible mess where you should always just check in this spot.

Just seems like a pot where you have decided you are going to win regardless of what you have, what the board run-out is and the range of your opp. It will work sometimes, but its spew. Big Big Spew.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 10, 2012, 09:45:54 PM
i mean, u have T5o. just check behind pre and fold most flops, lose 1bb. seems pretty simple

our cards are irrellevant... im asking what do we do in this spot vs this op who we know to have a wide range getting to the river but that he will fold to a decent sized river bet with turn and river aggression a large % of the time...



[  ] cards are irrelevant
  • you have a Ten and a Five and they are not of the same suit
  • this is a bad hand
  • let the 1bb go.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 11, 2012, 12:19:50 AM
thanks lads...

:D

update on tonights DTD sats

Just busted the DTD500 one in what might be a slight mistake... I don't ever think its bad but because of the dynamics it might not be 'amazing'.
We shoved UTD with  Ad Qc and 10bb's @ 1/2k, but most of the rest of the table are deep - 50k+ and one person is 200k deep and hitting everything.  I fully expected him to try and knock us all out one by one so I didn't want to shove without a hand, and this is the first one for 3 orbits.  I got snapped by his Ks Jh and also by bb's  7s 7h for most of 'his' stack - which is terribad!

Flop
77 open shoved into super stack on a Kxx spade mono board... and it all went in. wp sir.

Turn
 7 sealed it.

So that was us busting in 8th with 5 seats... Not sure there was anything else I can do but shove there.. I know atc will be better bvb but the super stack 2 to my right was opening every pot... so never got a free btn or sb.


And we got a dtd150 seat... so that was worth it! playing tomorrow then! :D   Shame I wasn't able to double whammy it tonight but I ran so terribly earlier that I earned my rungood in the bigger ones. :D if only huh...


Did have some though.
Got in  Ad 5c vs  Kd 8d on  Kh 6d 5h 3s
When I check shoved the turn and he snapped me off - lol wp sir.. this is the bottom of my range your a genius for knowing  EDIT I mean not folding tpnk when shown severe aggression.

River is a  5d and thank you, thank you, thank you... this is how it is done. Ul sir.

We also had a 'sick' ish... kinda pot.

Where I flat an EP open with Ks Kh and its then shoved by BTN, SB and original raiser (who I know) and I snap as its 1/4 of my stack and I have dem Kings...

Ks Kh vs  Ahrt Kc vs  Ts Th vs  Qc Qd = pretty good lineup, I'm about to be monstrous chip leader like 43%... (wow that's lower than I expected..)

Flop
Axx - wtf... this sucks.. oh well still got more than average

Turn
 Kd - well this qualifies as a boom card. BOOOOOOM! (always the Kd isn't it Chase Burger?)


Side matters,
Also had AA vs Suni Mistri's AK aipf which was nice... ul sir.

And next hand on other table had AA which I flatted pre and on a 9xx flop, the turn was an A and the guy went all in for 5x pot... I promptly snapped his arm off and said wp sir, thanks for all ur chippies! :D :D :D




So yer, shame to not bink them both with such a good run in them, but don't think I made many if any mistakes.  Just the AQ question above and another one where I ISO shoved over 5bb shove with  8d 8h and he had  Kd Td.. The guy in question was such a special player he had earlier doubled me up when I shoved bb vs his sb limp with  Ad Ks and he SNAPPED me off with the mighty  Qh 8h.  I held and wondered where I'd just gotten a massive 35bb double up from.  oh well never question these things I guess. - CHIPDUMPING IMHO!

Waiting for the second half of pleno's hands and then carry on with the grind i guess.


peace

jb









Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 11, 2012, 12:36:36 AM
tonights dinner.... was awesome CHICKEN KEBAB with no pitta or chips.. therefore just chicken and salad and chillie sauce!


yummy...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on May 11, 2012, 12:40:27 AM

Did have some though.
Got in  Ad 5c vs  Kd 8d on  Kh 6d 5h 3s
When I check shoved the turn and he snapped me off - lol wp sir.. this is the bottom of my range your a genius for knowing  EDIT I mean not folding tpnk when shown severe aggression.

River is a  5d and thank you, thank you, thank you... this is how it is done. Ul sir.


It's stuff like this that I think paints you in a bad light. Why are you sarcastically saying 'lol wp sir'? If he knows you at all he knows you are doing this pretty wide, with draws etc. He's just called you with the best hand... and you've got there. I'm sure he would think your shove was bad (cannot comment).


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 11, 2012, 01:58:14 AM

Did have some though.
Got in  Ad 5c vs  Kd 8d on  Kh 6d 5h 3s
When I check shoved the turn and he snapped me off - lol wp sir.. this is the bottom of my range your a genius for knowing  EDIT I mean not folding tpnk when shown severe aggression.

River is a  5d and thank you, thank you, thank you... this is how it is done. Ul sir.


It's stuff like this that I think paints you in a bad light. Why are you sarcastically saying 'lol wp sir'? If he knows you at all he knows you are doing this pretty wide, with draws etc. He's just called you with the best hand... and you've got there. I'm sure he would think your shove was bad (cannot comment).

Imho I see this as a spewy call pre IP as you flop tp and have no idea where you are... and I play super tight in the early stages in these tournaments.. this is one of the first times I've ever done anything as a bluff in the early stages.  Here the other 98% I will have KQ bare minimum, probably AK and upwards.  Which imho makes his call of of the turn cshove horrible.  The reason I get so many chips in these tournaments and have amassed a lot of satellite seats this year is because people can't fold tp type hands, but when I check flop and check shove turn he won't have Kx all the time and when he does it will rarely be good.

This is why I have said wp sir in a slightly less than genuine way, I mentioned UL to him after and he just said swear words to me.  I don't get upset or rant and rave when I get ul.. I chuckle, sigh that my AA lost to Q3 on KQ5r yesterday and move on. 

I will keep this kind of thing to the 2% it is and keep reaping the rewards of a freakishly weak field with dtd and blonde regulars playing less than optimal poker and that allowing me to play tournaments way above my roll.

But thanks for the comments mate and I am trying... tough to be a super nice guy all the time.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on May 11, 2012, 02:14:09 AM

Did have some though.
Got in  Ad 5c vs  Kd 8d on  Kh 6d 5h 3s
When I check shoved the turn and he snapped me off - lol wp sir.. this is the bottom of my range your a genius for knowing  EDIT I mean not folding tpnk when shown severe aggression.

River is a  5d and thank you, thank you, thank you... this is how it is done. Ul sir.


It's stuff like this that I think paints you in a bad light. Why are you sarcastically saying 'lol wp sir'? If he knows you at all he knows you are doing this pretty wide, with draws etc. He's just called you with the best hand... and you've got there. I'm sure he would think your shove was bad (cannot comment).

The reason I get so many chips in these tournaments and have amassed a lot of satellite seats this year is because people can't fold tp type hands, but when I check flop and check shove turn he won't have Kx all the time and when he does it will rarely be good.


And for this reason you should be thankful and not be jamming A5 on the turn. Your jam has to be every bit, if not worse, than his call.... if you know these guys dont like folding, but jam hoping he folds top pair. As ive said... at these levels the key is knowing when to value bet... not when to run bluffs


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 11, 2012, 03:21:00 AM

Did have some though.
Got in  Ad 5c vs  Kd 8d on  Kh 6d 5h 3s
When I check shoved the turn and he snapped me off - lol wp sir.. this is the bottom of my range your a genius for knowing  EDIT I mean not folding tpnk when shown severe aggression.

River is a  5d and thank you, thank you, thank you... this is how it is done. Ul sir.


It's stuff like this that I think paints you in a bad light. Why are you sarcastically saying 'lol wp sir'? If he knows you at all he knows you are doing this pretty wide, with draws etc. He's just called you with the best hand... and you've got there. I'm sure he would think your shove was bad (cannot comment).

The reason I get so many chips in these tournaments and have amassed a lot of satellite seats this year is because people can't fold tp type hands, but when I check flop and check shove turn he won't have Kx all the time and when he does it will rarely be good.


And for this reason you should be thankful and not be jamming A5 on the turn. Your jam has to be every bit, if not worse, than his call.... if you know these guys dont like folding, but jam hoping he folds top pair. As ive said... at these levels the key is knowing when to value bet... not when to run bluffs

He doesn't have many Kx's and shouldn't be bet calling most of them when he does.  My 'move' is not genius by any means, but I hate his get in more than i hate my move.  But im biased obv.

Appreciating the comments, although I'm wondering where the people are that agree with me on these fronts?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WotRTheChances on May 11, 2012, 03:23:08 AM
They are broke. Internet access is expensive


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 11, 2012, 03:24:01 AM
They are broke. Internet access is expensive

 ;izimbra;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 11, 2012, 04:03:46 AM
They are broke. Internet access is expensive

haha, naughty!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 11, 2012, 04:05:38 AM
<3 you all.... :D

good basketball game thomas?  Adam tells me the lakers are getting pwned, hope you haven't got a bet on them?!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 11, 2012, 04:09:33 AM
I do not have money on them. I won my bets for today when my team (76ers) beat the #1 seed chicago bulls!! #letsgosixers


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on May 11, 2012, 08:40:41 AM
You seem to be getting a fair bit of stick from various different groups about your attitude and style of play.

This is awesome John because they are letting you have both barrels because of your success in the sats and deepstack. You must be doing something right because you don't get abuse when you are losing.

Keep up the excellent work :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: millidonk on May 11, 2012, 11:48:15 AM
You seem to be getting a fair bit of stick from various different groups about your attitude and style of play.

This is awesome John because they are letting you have both barrels because of your success in the sats and deepstack. You must be doing something right because you don't get abuse when you are losing.

Keep up the excellent work :)

why does everyone rip you so much then?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on May 11, 2012, 01:45:49 PM
You seem to be getting a fair bit of stick from various different groups about your attitude and style of play.

This is awesome John because they are letting you have both barrels because of your success in the sats and deepstack. You must be doing something right because you don't get abuse when you are losing.

Keep up the excellent work :)

why does everyone rip you so much then?
:)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 11, 2012, 02:14:16 PM
You seem to be getting a fair bit of stick from various different groups about your attitude and style of play.

This is awesome John because they are letting you have both barrels because of your success in the sats and deepstack. You must be doing something right because you don't get abuse when you are losing.

Keep up the excellent work :)

why does everyone rip you so much then?

booooooom! milligan ITT!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on May 11, 2012, 05:58:33 PM
You seem to be getting a fair bit of stick from various different groups about your attitude and style of play.

This is awesome John because they are letting you have both barrels because of your success in the sats and deepstack. You must be doing something right because you don't get abuse when you are losing.

Keep up the excellent work :)

why does everyone rip you so much then?

booooooom! milligan ITT!
[/quotehe's only here stalking me


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 11, 2012, 08:54:57 PM
Haven't gotten round to sorting the TR for last wkends deep run yet but I made some notes to help when I do.

currently sat in the dtd150 with an AMAZING starting table.. Up to 43k quickly and then lost a big pot when Vinodh decided to call a 3bt oop and flop a set vs my tptk. Nh sir.

Not working a starting stack and having fun with the table. :D

Lets find another day2!!! :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: George2Loose on May 11, 2012, 09:05:30 PM
When u say table is amazing hoping ur excluding some players from that generalisation.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 11, 2012, 09:40:01 PM
Mrs G2L is next to me and good for the banter... And the rest of the table dont like folding.. The table is amazing. :D

I i just had QQ on Qxx... Shame they folded that time.

Shelley just had KK vs AA on Kxx... Up to mirrions.. :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 12, 2012, 02:06:51 AM
Was at this table. Can confirm John's use of the phrase "Mrs George 2Loose, in your eye" before moving allin.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: George2Loose on May 12, 2012, 02:28:44 AM
Was at this table. Can confirm John's use of the phrase "Mrs George 2Loose, in your eye" before moving allin.

Never allowed to say or do this myself


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 12, 2012, 02:59:54 AM
Yer, had a good banter table... I got quite tired and hyper so the use of "in your eye, sir/ ma'am" made it a lot more fun.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 12, 2012, 04:29:57 AM
Had a good time tonight and played really well, super solid.  Made one tiny call that would be bad but when this particular guy bet 1k into 7k and its a 4 straight, 4flush board... I just got curious, turns out he donked 2nd pair and turned 2p, then kept donking tiny.... :D

Other than that, we worked our stack well and grinded 19-25bb's really well for like 6 levels. :D  We busted with 10d 8h bb vs utg 9h 7h limp on  Kd 6h 8h Th.... sigh!
Must've known he would make a flush I guess.

Never mind, time to go to bed since im up in a few hours for the stag do... had a kebab on the way back from dtd as its cheat day, complete with chips... AND IT FEELS HORRIBLE! no normal fast food was open so my KFC craving has been replaced with this absolute garbage and I'm feeling horrendous as i go to bed.  Great way to set up a day of drinking!!

woops.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: kinboshi on May 12, 2012, 06:08:09 AM
Enjoy Northampton fella ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on May 12, 2012, 07:49:08 AM
Enjoy Northampton fella ;)

Not easy these days.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: MrsG2L on May 12, 2012, 11:10:37 AM
Was at this table. Can confirm John's use of the phrase "Mrs George 2Loose, in your eye" before moving allin.

Never allowed to say or do this myself

He really did say it too!!! Nice to meet you John inspite of this :) have fun on the stag do!

Nice to meet you too Alex :)

Of course youd never really want to anyway dear :p



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TheFruitbat on May 12, 2012, 03:10:24 PM
It was one of the more interesting games of poker I've had at DTD to say the least... My highlight being the Herbal 'assassination' of seat 6 by MrsG2L. Absolutely brilliant! GG, UL John and GL sunday Alex and Shelley! This is Jack btw!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 12, 2012, 03:51:10 PM
Confirmed Jack.  Shelley Bedi uses 'sweets' to disable her opponents at the table. Poor guy almost died in a menthol cloud. Lol'd


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: MrsG2L on May 12, 2012, 10:04:15 PM
Glad i sat in the wrong seat (even if i did get owned/bullied for the duration)! I cant be accountable for side effects of herbal consumption surely?? i did warn of their eeeeeeevilness

did either of you actually try one??

Gl Sunday Jack



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on May 12, 2012, 10:08:25 PM
Gl tomorrow mrs George


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tikay on May 12, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Yup, best of luck Shelley, show the old man how to do it.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 12, 2012, 10:28:01 PM
Yes I'd love to lose heads up to you Shelley, just show George how to close ffs...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TheFruitbat on May 13, 2012, 03:21:37 AM
Been 'lucky' enough to try them before.. so politely opted out :). Definitely bringing a bag of my own though Sunday.. Plenty more unsuspecting victims lol


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 13, 2012, 12:28:31 PM
dw George at least the kids aren't old enough yet so you'll stay the second best player in your house for a few more years ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 13, 2012, 01:47:54 PM
As Shelley explained, he gets rub downs from his kids on a regular basis....
Apparently the conversation goes something like this
George - "we'll go shopping when I get back after winning guys!"
Next day...
kids - "so dad, are we going shopping now?"
G - "no, not today."
K - "so are you going back to try again today?" (re-enter)
G - "yes, I think so..."
K - "pfffft...... hmph!"



LOL!

:D

gl shelley.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: MrsG2L on May 13, 2012, 02:26:30 PM
Thank you all, two flips later and I'm in the super 50!!

Good luck to those still in !


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 16, 2012, 01:32:30 AM
Will get to a TR at some point... after all it is my best big MTT performance and felt like some of my best ever poker.

However had a busy week personal and work life wise so will get around to that also.

Food is still going good and portion size is still under control even if i did have a little more than usual tonight as we had extra left-over curry from yesterday and the stuff is amazing!  Going away with work again tomorrow, but hopefully will have internet....

Life could be much much worse... but that doesn't mean binking the next tourny would be turned away! :D


peace

x


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 16, 2012, 03:11:21 AM
ffs been waiting a week for that TR.

AT LEAST 59 paragraphs and 4000 words please.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 16, 2012, 07:48:19 AM
ffs been waiting a week for that TR.

AT LEAST 59 paragraphs and 4000 words please.

+1


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Pinchop73 on May 16, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
I am disappoint


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 16, 2012, 09:01:44 PM
15 more to come..

ahem


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 17, 2012, 11:02:28 AM

Good point, well made.... PLENOOOOOOO? :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 17, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
TRIP REPORT DTD500 5 + 7 May 2012

This is the regular 'monthly' dusk till dawn £500 no limit holdem tournament that is frequented by some very good live players, a couple of online whizzkids, a lot of satelliting players (myself included) and a whole bunch of recreational funsters.  I have performed well in this tournament in the past, making day 2 last year when it was a £300 and that day my 10's couldn't beat regular dtd player 'chinese frankies' 7's all in pre flop.  Other than this I've had some good runs this year at day 1 and unfortunately come unstuck in similar situations, busting only once in a 'bad situation' (tptk + nfd vs idiot end of a run on super wet board - sigh @ the call! :P)

However when I sat down to play on Saturday 5 I found myself 3 handed at a 9 handed table with a couple of players who I stereo-typed as players I would enjoy playing vs and we discussed and lol'd at how we could chop away at the other stacks if we took it in turns and raise/ folded until more got here.....

[ ] This went well for them
[ ] They folded to let me win pots preflop
[X] instead I crushed them postflop with my hedge!

So we of course had some skirmishes but I'd already decided to not do anything as a bluff for more than 10bb's at this early stage.  So instead I made a couple of top or second pair type hands and just let the two of them try to bluff me for half an hour or so.  This worked well and we'd gone from 30k starting up to almost 34k.  Then we had a player or two join our table and after a while we had 8/9 players here and ready.... the two I'd been playing with didn't seem to realise I'd changed gears and was no longer playing any hands at all.. Instead I just watched, waited and tried to build up profiles on the 2 to my right and 2 to my left as these are the most likely for me to tangle because of position.  Only problem is David 'crushingonline' L'honore is on our direct left.... This is both good and bad, I get to watch a very good MTT player work but I also have to contend with him, we're 'friends' and I don't expect him to mess around with me very much.  He knows I've been working on my game and I 'think' that he will respect my game enough to know that its not worth skirmishing when the rest of the table was so good to toy with.

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I had a small tangle with one of the early guys, we'll call this one EG2 and we'd flatted in LP 8d 6d to a min open, with another one or two guys coming along.

FLOP
 Th 9d 5h

He cbets liike 350 into 450, we call, everyone else folds.

With a bkdr fd and gutty on a board that doesn't rate to hit his range as much as ours, the plan was to float this flop a lot and raise any brick non Q+ turn or to continue on anything that improves us and give up on offsuit A/K/Q's...

TURN
 Td

HU He tentatively cbets 600 into a pot of 1150, I was 99% sure this bet was a weak hand trying to have one more stab, the bet sizing wasn't consistent with his previous hands for value and to me it was A or K high type hand exclusively.

One of the best and worst cards in the deck imo.. it brings our extra outs, makes it hard for him to have tp and we can rep HUGE from now on.  So we're intending to now flat a turn bet (dont actually expect one all that often, people will give up here with AK/ AQ type hands some %) and we will be raising huge on all brick rivers and a little smaller on all value rivers.  Probably checking back if we make a pair as I've been owning myself in these spots with a bet in recent times - villain dependant i would defo make this bet with a rivered 8 or 6 some % of the time.

RIVER
 Jd

Well this is a pretty good river card, we gone done made a flooosh or something.  Got 5 of same color = good hand so the french tell me.

The guy looks at the river and i see a 'glint' of something in his eye, I'm not sure what this means but my suspicion at the time was that he thought this would be a good river to bluff.  He takes a little while and slides over a bet of 925 into a now 2350 pot.  I try to work through sizings and eventually settle on making it HUGE..  I did this because if I've been wrong throughout the hand and he has a T or a value hand then he will call a big bet but never reraise without Axdd or a house.  Also, if he has hit the J and wants to sheriff me then I want it to cost him.  Tbh i didn't expect a call very often at all, but wanted to be able to bet big on rivers in the future and have suspicion be my ally.

I raise to 4100 which by my quick calculations was just under pot.  3275 + 925 = 4200 so I wasn't far off.  And he makes a seriously frustrated face then sigh folds - maybe he had  Ad or something....

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We carry on for a while without playing any hands of note, mainly some small calls in position when 3-4 way and we have something like  4s 4h or  9c 7c.  I see some very over valued hands go to showdown and realise one or two of the guys are going to be worth never bluffing, but vbetting HUGE, so this note taken I carry on.

Eventually we get to a hand where otb I flat  Kd Qs and David L'honore completes the SB, with BB coming along vs MP open from EG2 again.

FLOP
 Ad Jh Th

Eeerrrr.... wellll ummmmm, think thats yes hold on... 10..... J.....Q......K.....A..... thats a run! we've made a RUN!!!!! off the flop. :D

So this is how we play our expertly flopped nuts.

check, check, EG2 bets 950ish into 1300 or so, we flat and L'honore says something next to me about how he has KQ and 'watch this' as he's flopped a straight... (lol) then the bb comes along.

TURN
 8c

Pretty sweet brick imo, Dave checks (and says 'I shoulda folded flop, playing so bad'), BB checks and EG2 checks... I take my time and decide I need to build a pot here and that BB or EG2 will not be going away if they have any tp, but probably not folding to two big bullets if they have a good tp.  I make it 2625 to play, L'honore snap folds and so does BB.  EG2 flicks the call in, in a 'knew youd bet' kinda way.  I just lol'd hard inside deciding that on any brick river I'm going to make it absolutely MAHUSSIVE!

RIVER
 2d

BRICKSSSSSS! we love being builders cos when we find dem bricks and slap some cement on, no problems happen and we win all the time! :D

He checks quickly and I take a long time... really working out the exact pot, but never looking at him or the pot, just at the 4 chips im shuffling in my hand and the same corner of the cards in my other hand.  Eventually I work out that the pot is approx 10.5k and I fire out a full 11625 bet.  He instantly shuffles in his seat uncomfortably, he knows he's beat but can't do it... He can't make the 'fold'.  Only problem for me is that this bet is HUGE, he has something like 24K left from his 30K starting... and this is for half of dem chippies.  But as I hoped the earlier hand obv played on his mind and he eventually flicked in the call with I'm told  Ahrt Kc. 

Really? just one pair? wow.... thank you for the boost sir.

Now we're really trucking on and we have something like 60K when avg is 31.5k. :D :D :D

Dave says afterwards that he knew my flop call was massive and that he thought my obv KQ riverbet was way too big... We discussed it after and agreed vs most competent villains this bet should be somewhere between 6700-9100.  However he said well played on getting the max and that he wants his 1k back as he gifted it to me and he wants interest.


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We now super chill... We're not getting busy at all and continue to build reads, profiles and to observe play.... No one seems to notice we're not even playing anymore, even with potentially the tournament CL and one of the biggest mouths in the room!  I stay quiet and reseved, occassionally chatting to Dave but eventually a guy in seat 3 wakes up and begins to create the best table in the room.

This man was Andrew Bradshaw.  The guy is a poker legend, and only rivalled 'if' surpassed by 'The Fish himself' (Colburn Tomlin). 

Andrew woke me up and our banter and combined destruction of the table lead to the most incredible run through of players I've ever seen.  Our table chewed up something like 3 players an hour for about 4 hours straight.  With Andrew and myself being the main beneficiaries..


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One such hand was another of my 'runnin like bolt' pots where I find dem  Ks Kh on the button, and squeeze to 1900 the EP raise and call....

To my suprised David L'honore pulls out of the closet, the old 1984 ice cold '4bt/ reraise' to make it 4700 to play.  Now I know Dave 'could' be doing it light here vs me, but he's not doing it light vs the EP raiser + call so I'm a little confused because I have half of the K's which means he with a range of only QQ+/ AK he is likely to have QQ or AA.... sigh.  Then a recreational player who's recently been moved to our table then hits a mushroom or something and shouts 'maaaario' as he fistpump COLD 5 bets from the BB.  WTF!!!  Well the good thing about this is this guy's range imo is going to be something like 10's+, AQs+ and as such I like that he will let me requeeze Dave out if he has a 30% hand he wouldn't have folded otherwise.

So now the betting has gone...

EP -     open to 450
MP -    call 450
BTN -  I make it 1900
DL -     makes it 4700
BB -    11k (playing 18k behind)

EP       fold
MP      fold
BTN -  I take a lot of time, as they've seen me do and fold or seen me do and raise... and eventually I click it back (cib) to 18.5k
DL -    pukes in his own mouth (i hear it slide slowly down his throat) and then he slides his cards into the muck to keep his 24k stack intact (he claims AK but I later find out he had the other two KK's...... ouch!)
BB -    looks confused, and then sigh shoves the other 18k in for a 29k total and a 65k pot with me when I snap call and have 30k left.

He has dem QQ's and we're not even sweating!


Boom, we do a hold and now have the tournament CL for sure and are properly trucking along.  We have a respectable finishing Day1 stack already and the average is still 34k - cmon leggggggo!

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Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 17, 2012, 01:08:07 PM
TRIP REPORT DTD500 5 + 7 May Part 2

So we're now up to a modest 85/95k @ something stupid like 150/300 avg is 35k or something.... And we just play like a nit... :D

We haven't really lost a hand all day as we've not overvalued any pairs and we've bluff caught with weak tp's, and won a lot.  We've coolered one soul and somehow won a pot with KK vs KK vs QQ aipf.. where KK folds... :D and in general we're just running really really good.  Every time we 'squeeze' we've had 'IT' and every time we've decided to float or bluff its been a great runout for it.

Everything is going well...

So I now spend a few minutes alone in the toilet telling myself what I need to do:-
- relax, you're running good but you also have a good table and you're concentrating and playing great
- focus, you can still only win a few pots an orbit, dont start trying to win them all..
- we're NOT going to make a bluff for stacks, and we're not likely to set in the shorties without a hand... they will gamble with us to get a stack back
- lets have a beer, we need to relax.... ok magners ordered... now enjoy and be patient!


Back to the table and we're hearing Bradshaw chirping again, he's just nocked out someone else and is closing in on my CL.... he's a dangerous player and unfortunately in one spot where he won 2 hands on the trot and I KNEW he was bluffing the 3rd hand and wanted to call down with AK high... a 3rd player in the pot complicated things and I got out of the way.  Then the 3rd guy folds a brick turn and Andrew shows the mighty  7d 2s saying "If I can win with this **** then what hope do you guys have" or something to that effect.

Love Andre Bradshaw, so good for the game.



to be continued... have to change terminals to catch the next flight.....


enjoy  the story so far, next up we bet fold Kd Qd on a 3 diamond board..... WTF! :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 17, 2012, 01:10:15 PM
Brutal, made a cuppa and you run off before finishing!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: LonOhRay on May 17, 2012, 02:02:28 PM
Quote
So I now spend a few minutes alone in the toilet telling myself what I need to do:-

Love this lolllllllllllllllllllllll


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on May 17, 2012, 02:39:11 PM
Quote
So I now spend a few minutes alone in the toilet telling myself what I need to do:-

Love this lolllllllllllllllllllllll

No wonder the Gents' at DTD are often less than spotless


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 17, 2012, 03:27:11 PM

BRICKSSSSSS! we love being builders cos when we find dem bricks and slap some cement on, no problems happen and we win all the time! :D


 Ahrt


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on May 17, 2012, 03:45:08 PM
What country you in this time Gloria?

This is in my top 5 diaries ATM :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 17, 2012, 07:09:23 PM
What country you in this time Gloria?

This is in my top 5 diaries ATM :)

to be revealed on my return herbs...

TOP5???? how many are there?

Gloria?


I'm kinda tired as I've just arrived and been travelling for almost 24 hours solid, but I've been to this country before.  Just never this city, feels a little weird being back here in 'similar surroundings' even if they're just similar to the other parts of this country.

Anyways.... back on with the nories...


So, we get John 'skalie' Kalmar moved to our left in place of the QQ busto boy, and David L'honore busts with Alan 'lucky' Mcbride replacing him.  We know a lot about Alan's game but not so much about John, I recognise his name from somewhere and I can faintly remember he's either won something or gone deep in something big but don't know what and don't care much.  If it was more than a year ago it doesn't matter anyways as the game changes so much, and I need to judge him on his merits playing this tournament on this day.  I also have the CL but he's got more than starting stack himself, if he is good then i don't expect him to come to the table and try to insta-boss it without a massive stack so we will just take our time and see.

In the meantime between myself and the few remaining players from earlier, Andy Bradshaw and I manage to take out player after player, him nocking two out at once at one point and our table is getting louder and louder! (great for the game ofc).

I'm still being a nit, but occassionally messing with the guy on my direct right as he doesn't have a lot of chips and I'm not letting him have his btn very easily.  I 3bt him a few times and show a  2s twice... but he knows he can't afford to make a mistake with his 4bt shove as I have over 80k and he only has 22k or something.
  :D :D :D love having a decent stack..
The other thing is because I'm being such a nit the rest of the time but only messing about with a short-ish stacked guy who im never going to lose too many chips to, it means those around the table who don't have gears to change up or down think im doing it all the time.  Next time I 3bt someone's EP open (im almost certainly never bluffing here) and the guy eyeballs me with 10's! I have KK's again and do a hold for some more chippies!

#runninglikeboltvirgingetmeadealNOW!


We've slowly and steadily chipped up to 120K ish and are slowing down even more on the pots we play.  I have a theory and I doubt im the first one to think or say it but I reckon the chips I gain at this point of the tournament (avg is 38-40k) are no where near as important as any chips I lose...  Might sound crazy but imo if I have 120k - 3.5x avg and I win a pot of 10k, woohoo I now have 130k and I STILL cover everyone....  But if I lose 10k and start to get down toward the 100-110k mark then I'm getting close to only double average and just one medium sized pot will take away the CL and all manouvering power for any difficult spots.  I see a healthy stack like this as the 'free reign' to worm my way through the rest of the day, avoiding trouble spots and just value betting my way to stay roughly the same, potentially end the day near 200k if I'm fortunate in the last couple of levels... but anywhere north of 110k will be great.

We see a few big pots go down and a few more leave the table when this hand happens. - doesnt involve us.


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Somehow there is a 3bt in the middle and its been called 4 ways with one person left to act preflop, the guy sigh puts in the extra 4k or something with around 25-30k behind and we see a 5 way flop in 3bp @ level 200/400 or something..

FLOP
 9h 9d 2s

Alan McBride open shoves his last 15k into the 25k or so already there, and John Kalmar is quickly behind him with his 25k, folds round and the final dude preflop literally does a cartwheel, moonwalks to the toilet and back, and then asks to borrow my chip shovel to get his stack in.

Alan -  Kc Kh
John -  Qc Qh
Other guy -  Qs 9s

Well this is a little sick... the guys practically got a lock on a monster pot after doing a peel pre with the old Q9 sooooted.

Kalmar gets up, sighs and off he goes pretty much and Alan says something like 'just my luck...' - ul Alan.

TURN
 Qd

And we have a 1 outer for Kalmar to take the lead in this monster pot bringing him close to me in chips and he just has to dodge a K or the last 9.

RIVER
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[______]

(that's supposed to be a BRICK....)


And Kalmar gets a miracle treble up and the other two are off on their todd with no chippies left.
At the time I knew the action of it and tbh I really thought the QQ's were overplayed in this spot but maybe that's just me knowing Alan better than many players, either way this is one of a couple of hands where I thought John over valued a hand in a spot and that effects a decision in a minute.

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We carry on and over the course of the next hour or two we have fellow hero's Tom Langley, Sunil Mistri and James Tomlin all brought to the table... None of them have many chips but TL soon gets to work being a proper hero and makes a sweet

Raise, cbet, check call, check call play.....

On   Jh 5h 8d 5s 8s

With the mighty  Kc Qs for a healthy 25k call on the river from his 40k stack.

HE IS GOOD! well played sir and this is a perfect demonstration of his poker skillz, I honestly felt like Tom had an A high hand during the hand and through my own learning I thought this was a perfect spot to cc, cc the turn and river.. but it is still very hard to do when its the majority of your stack vs an unknown player and you have K high.  All the props mate, wp.  (its american for giving you a 'bigup')

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As we're bumbling along we get a new gentleman to our right and have had a little action with him on his btn my SB. (read I 3bt him, took it down pre and showed a 2s)

Then we both order food and it comes at the same time.

I used to use this as a great reason to get hyper aggro as most recreational players avoid anyone eating and playing... - they always have 'it'!  But now ive learned that a lot of them still think you have it but they want to pay!  I think its like a sick version of torture to themselves, they know you have it, they say "I want to pay, I know im beat but I have to see" then they pay.  So now I genuinely don't bother messing around so much when eating, I just enjoy my food like a cash player in the vic 'Henry' says 
"if you can't enjoy your food at the table when why bother having it.."

Then we find the mighty  2s 2h - this is what you call a PAIR... otherwise known as the AK crusher, or in general... the hand you 3bt people with, then don't look and always show a deuce!!!!! :D

The btn to our right opens and we take our time looking him up n down, and I don't know what it was but I felt like he had a high card hand and that he would bluff 4bt if i 3bt.  So I needed to make up my mind now if I'm shoving on him or not when he 4bts?

I decide that he has just over 50k and that my 150k stack is more than healthy enough to race if he sigh calls but tbh I expected him to 4bt fold hands like  Jc Tc or  Kd Qs based on the dynamic, even though this would be terrible to do so.

I pull out the reraise and he quickly makes it a smallish 4bt.
I think I made it something like 9.2k and he makes it 22k from 50k.  I realise this sounds and seems insane... but I stuck with the plan and after a bit of thinking I announce All in, he confirms I have said the magic words and quickly calls and flips dem  Ac Ahrt.... SIGGGGHHHHH!!!! first and only 'blowup' but I had thought about it and if he had a hand to call with I was happy to race for an average stack to get up to a bigger CL again.

I realise now this is a mistake but at the time with live reads n all, I just made a misread.

First two cards out are  3h 5c and I say to him "good luck, you're going to need it I fear...."  Then BRICKS everywhere! WTF.... this isn't running good, I'm supposed to get out of the **** when I make a mistake and im running good!  lolz.

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So we become a nit again.


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Now we're much closer to the middle of the pack but still healthy - 95k @ 1000/2000 avg was 50k or so I think...

And we find  Kd Qd in the SB to a Skalie open UTG to 5K and a Tom Langley flat in LP, I decide to peel as Skalie's continuing range will be crushing me if i 3bt and Tom can peel and play IP much better than I want him to.

BB comes along and we see a pretty...

Pot - 22K ish..
FLOP
 Jd Td Jh

Well that's pretty good, I'm almost certainly not going anywhere.... and was planning to check raise this flop with my enormous equity, knowing that even Skalie's  Ad Ac would struggle to face a flop cr and turn shove...

I check, BB checks, Skalie checks - WTF! didn't expect that.. and Tom Langley checks behind. 

Well this is interesting, I'm not sure if Skalie can check a real hand here but I definitely think that if he had  Ahrt Kh he wouldn't always cbet this board 4 way... we're just going to have Jx in our calling ranges so much I think its probably burning money vs this players.

Pot - 22K ish
TURN
 3d

So this is pretty good, we've made a floosh and we have the K and the Q.. which is kinda bad.. makes it tough for anyone else to have Qx and they can't have Jx dd so we're not going to get much action, but we have a strong hand and a redraw to two straight flushes... so lets get it ON!

We lead out for 10K and the BB folds, Skalie calls and TL folds.

At this point I think that Skalie's range should be something like AA/ KK/ QQ, Ad Kc, Ad Qc, Ac Jc and the like.. with the occasional  5d 6d type hands.  There might be  Js Jc or  Ts Th some % of the time but tbh I think its a mistake to check this flop when its so draw heavy and people won't be folding their draws... I mean I was going to get the lot in if he bet flop! but I did have an oesfd + 2 overs.

Pot - 42K
RIVER

 4s

I take my time as i've said and done before all day and try to work out what he can have, what he can call with, does he ever raise - with what... etc... and I eventually settle on a similar situation to earlier.

There are very few hands that beat me, and he should never be raising the river with anything less than a full house, and probably never even  Tc Th because its so easy for me to have  Js Ts.

Now I've decided to bet, but what about sizings... if I bet like 10k I get called a lot, but he might actually raise  5d 6d for value... or even bluff with  Ad..
So I decide to freeze up his raising range and work out the pot at 40k.  I decide to make it a big bet of close to pot and slide in my 32.6K bet.

Skalie looks fine, not worried, stressed, anxious but also not settled and its hard to tell when you've only seen someone play a few hands, esp when you think they migh have overplayed a hand or two in your opinion.  He gets his call together...


AND THEN REACHES FOR CHIPS>......... ffs is this a joke?

He makes it 70k dead and I insta-sigh, knowing i have to fold but decide to think about it first and make sure my logic for playing the hand like this was correct and I didn't make a mistake already. 

IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE A HAND.... but then that must mean he has one of like 4 hands... JJ, 1010 or AdXd...  He can't easily have Ad unless its like A2 or A4s... and therefore its like 3 combos of 10's and one combo of JJ.  He only has to be bluffing 1 in like 5 times for me to call 37k more into 112k.  That means I need to find ONE bluff combo... on a semi regular frequency, and why can't he have Ad Kh some % of the times?  Calls turn to hit either overcards, straight or flush and then minr bluffs when its a gross spot for me.

Eventually James Tomlin calls the clock and despite giving him grief about it... I have like 60k left and I have announced my hand to the table... I know its a fold, but only a few months ago I would have flicked it in and called it 'bad luck' when he has it.

Instead I decide to stick to the plan - thats why we have one right? and bet fold this river.

Skalie tries to needle me after saying something like "I had the Kd so I dunno what you're talking about..." wp sir... vwp.

Tom Langley is talking to Jonathan McGill during the hand and he said Skalie ALWAYS has 10's full or quads there... I like the play in restrospect but it just sucked hard at the time.

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VERY NEXT HAND
We're on the button and Tom Langley opens to 5k, is called in two spots and we find  Ad Ac and make it 18.5k to play.  It folds round and I'm not kidding when I tell you I see Tom gulp and then announce ALL IN, he knows i've thought about squeezing him a few times but havent' done it yet.... folds to me and I snap.

He has dem  Kh Ks and we do a hold to double back up and win everything and more back from our friend and someone we have a % in... after he's played like a legend all day and had worked up a 140k stack respectably.

We're back in action and we're back in the chip leaders... Sunny Mistri just sighs and lol's @ how easy it is to lose 45k one hand and win 60k the next when he only has 35k and hasn't played a hand for over an hour.


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We work our way up to 190k in the last few hours of the day and continue playing solid all the way to the end, we finish on Tom High's table and unfortunately see him quickly exit to Ali Mallu (heard of him but never met him) when Ali decides to cshove 97 on 10108 vs Tom's QQ.... Tom can't hold and is tilted to be given back about 1.5bb's.

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After seeing Ali be a little bit 'speculative' to say the least we get into a pot IP with  Ac Jd.

FLOP
 Tc 9c 9d

We decide to check this back and probably call call on any turn and river as we expect Ali to double barrell bluff A LOT when we check the flop.

TURN
 5h

We call his small-ish lead...

RIVER
 4c

He picks up 22k and I'm happy to call even though it completes some hands.. I know he's going to try and rep the draw some % of the time and he doesn't vbet a 10 here.. so I'm fairly sure its air a lot and sometimes a flush. 

But then something goes off in my 'spidey-sense' as he picks up one more 5k chip and goes to slide it over..... something is NOT right about that extra chip.  But I'm just not sure what.  I have 171k and its a 27k river bet, I talk myself into paying with A high and he rolls over the mighty  Jc 7c for a monster flop and good river.  I was correct about him and his hand, just a shame he got there... Where was the J river for a sweet value cut from him? :D

never mind... we carry on and bag up 144k which puts us 9th on the day and eventually something like 20th starting on Day2!




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on May 17, 2012, 07:49:04 PM
Good read this John well done


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rbc_mike on May 17, 2012, 08:03:35 PM
RIVER
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[______]

(that's supposed to be a BRICK....)



 Ahrt


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on May 17, 2012, 08:50:34 PM
Top 5 avoids me upsetting any of the other 4 diaries on here.

Gloria Hunniford used to do a travel show called Wish You Were Here.

Great read this been Ali's room mate numerous times and played a fair bit with Jon too.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: DungBeetle on May 18, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
Brilliant tournament write up - really enjoying it. 


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on May 18, 2012, 11:38:45 AM
Brilliant tournament write up - really enjoying it. 
Yeah some of the things he says make me wince then a big cheesy smile comes over my face. They are open and honest so fair play to him. Dreading drawing a low numbered table at Dtd to find him sat there tho. I may have to bring out the beats by dre that I always carry but as everybody knows I have never owned an iPad or mp3 player so they are gonna be pretty ineffective against Mr Black :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 18, 2012, 03:50:50 PM
DTD500 5 + 7 May 2012 Day 2

We start the day on 144k and we're something like 20th of the 110 restarting, good times.  Just have to remind myself not to hurry and that there will be a lot of <70k stacks that will bust themselves with poor short stack play.  We have a pretty sweet table and get going!

Think I actually turned up a little late and my initial table had broken before I got there... I was sat next to Simon Deadman but apart from that our table wasnt scary at all and had a few chips to try and pickup.  Si was short but I soon sorted that when I shoved  Kh bvb and he finds a wired pair of 66's!  The  2s with my K does pair in the window but unfortunately I do not improve and I hand a tidy double up to Si early on.  Then he starts messing with me a little, sounds like it was relatively standard but it annoyed me to have someone good on my left who would abuse me if I got the least bit out of line.

I can't remember much from this first table as I played super solid and really used peoples stack sizes for most pre flop decisions and post flop was almost all value.

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Except this one hand....

Many of you already know about this hand but for those of you who don't.... I had a guy come to my direct right I'd played with A LOT last year in Newcastle at the UKIPT in side cash games, this guy is a nice fella but not the best player and I think I won about 3-4bi's off him @ £1/2. :D :D :D

I have a really good handle on his game and he is 99% to have not changed anything or learned or moved on in general, and if his MTT game is anywhere near as weak as his cash game I'm going to enjoy messing with him.

I have about 180k I think and he's got just under 80k.

After an orbit or so he opens in late position and I find the mighty  7c 2s and believe this to be a really good spot to start hammering on him.  His range will be super wide here and when I 3bt to 20-25k I think he will be peeling too much and I then have to risk another 20-25k on the flop with a cbet.  Vs me he won't be folding any pair on the flop, so instead I think the best way to win this pot long term is actually going to be winning it preflop.  I work out I need to make it a bit bigger than 25k (his open was to 13k @ 2500/5000 I think). 

I make it 33k, which I realise in hindsight is actually massive but at the time my rationale is that to everyone else at the table it just looks like I'm setting him in, but I will have the option to reraise if they come along and he shoves.  Also, that he vs me will not want to get in KQ/ J10s kinda hands and that actually his range will be something like 66+, AQs+... which is plenty narrow enough for me to steal this 3/4 times (think i have to to make it profitable).  Also the tilt factor to this particular guy when I show should ensure I get all of his chips next time i do anything to him.

He folds and I show... and Paul 'Peejay' Jenkinson is on the rail shouting - "OI Alex, its a JB blowup!!! GET OVER HERE NOW!"

And then proceeds to tell me 'Im priced in when he shoves AK'... He's probably right maths wise - I haven't run the exact numbers but to me its something like this


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MATHS
I have to call 50k more to win a 110k pot, which means I need somewhere around 40% equity to break even and obviously 72o doesn't have much equity vs anything.

But if we range him at a wide range than I said - 22+, A10o+ and KQs then you find I'm something like 24.6% vs that range.  Which means that actually my sizing was probably close to optimal if a tiny bit high but that it deceptively looks like I'm priced in when I'm not because of the hand I've chosen to do it with.
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Anyways, he folds we show and we win! so it WAS a good move! :D


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Either way within another hour or so I'm broken again and go to Ali Mallu's table and he now has 400k, I have 150k ish and I'm watching the regs at this table carefully.  I felt like Ali was always going to be my real likely source of a lot of chips if I wanted to do battle with him, but it would likely mean fading some draw or crazy hand if i did.

We observe a little bit going down and then its break time... in the changeup someone decides to change some of my 5k chips for some 25k chips and it looks like I don't have anything left.  Turns out I actually have about 180k but I have 3 peach colored 25k chips with 5x 5k chips on top at the front of my stack in a '100k stack'.  This is later the cause of some debate on blonde.............

A little while in from the break and then this happened.

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I find  Jd Jh MP1 and open - I think it was something like 13500, folds round to the SB who calls and then Ali calls from the BB. 

FLOP
 Jc Ts 5h

The SB checks and Ali playing 350k looks to me, then to the SB and announces 'ALL IN'... I make sure I heard correctly first then once I recieve confirmation from the dealer I snap announcing 'nuts' as I turn over my top set.

Ali has the mighty  Qs 9c and we gota do a fade!....

TURN
 6h or similar

RIVER
 6c or similar

And I'm scooping up a pot worth 320k which is almost 2.5x avg with about 55 left - 35 getting paid. BOOOM!


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We chill out with our new stack and then go up to see Dan Muddiman at the next "break" or "john goes to toilet to talk to himself and make sure he doesn't spew break" as I now like to call them.

And we borrow Dan's Ipad to then find that we're getting torn up on Blonde because of the way 'John said I know' was interpreted on the tourny blog.  When Ali Mallu set me in I knew he hadnt noticed that I had 75k's worth of chips in peach at the front at the bottom, I knew he'd made a mistake but I'm not about to say

"oh dont put me all in, you haven't seen my hand or how many chips I have yet, let me show you then make your decision."

In my mind, poker is war... and if someone makes a mistake in this war; even the slightest misunderstanding of the rules, the game, the play, the players or the weapons then I'm afraid I will capitalise on this, kick him in the gutt and storm the high ground while shouting "I AM THE GREATEST!" as I go.

It is your own damn fault when you make an avoidable mistake and you lose money, chips or your tournament life as a result.


Anyway, after about 30 minutes of slating and questions I have some blonde hero's come to my rescue:
- Some knew the story and pointed out it was bull**** and that I was fair and correct
- Some know me and that I just #lovethegametoomuchtocheat in such a cheap and nasty way
- Some know me the person and that I'm over enthusiastic and that my comments were almost certainly taken out of context or understanding etc..
- Some just didn't want to believe the evil rumours..


To all of you, thank you so much.  It felt wonderful to be backed up and rooted for and stood up for in the way you did.  It really was beautiful.
That I can remember thanks specifically to -
Alex, Peejay, Pleno, Pinchop,WotRTheChances, JK, REDDOG, Pugwashed, Girgy85 and Nirvana of course!





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 18, 2012, 03:51:32 PM
DTD Day 2 Part 2


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I'm going to have to emoticon and drumroll this puppy....

 :) 8) :kiss: :o ::) ;pokergods; ;tracet; ;topofclass; ;ashamed; :dontask: :)up ;whistle; ;kev; ;nanana; ;nana; ;snoopy'sguns; ;nemesis; ;hattip; ;sark; ;cheerleader; ;cupcake; ;hide; ;madasahatstand; :hello: ;indestructable; ;adamm; :cheers: ;charmaine; ;topman; ;first;

Biggest hand of my poker career so far..

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57693.150

Ali Mallu opens EP and I flat CO with  Kc Qd, the BB comes along and we see:

Pot 50k ish
FLOP
 Qs 8h 3h

The SB donks for 24k (from 90k) and I'm happy with this, he has Qx a lot here... rarely will he donk any monsters.  Then Ali makes it 161k with only 100k behind and we cover...

WTF do we do now, I am trying to work out what kind of hand Ali can have for value here that he wants to do this with.. the problem is wild players like he and Rastafish will sometimes do this with AA/ QQ, AQ type hands that they consider to be 'monsters' and they want to represent a flush draw.  On the other hand I think he will also actually do this with a flush draw as it maximises his FE while putting max pressure on deep in a tourny and for the average player, playing the £500 @ dtd is often the biggest game of their month.

I go over the hands I've seen him play, I go over every little bit of information I've gathered as I've effectively written off the SB.  In my head/ opinion if I rejam here which is clearly my only option other than fold then he should be folding <AQ pretty quickly and easily.

As I start to work through the hands I decide in my mind that Ali has more weak hands/ draws in his range and that this is a 'lets win this tournament not just cash in it' moment where we go with a spot we should be good/ ahead or crushing a lot of the time and when we're not we have outs.  But it took a lot of heart and balls to follow my read and the maths of the situation.  Only a few months ago I would have never reshoved here and would've rued it afterward either way.

I cannot afford to be wrong here, It would be so sweet to see  Qc Jc one time....  Ali Mallu has never cashed in this tournament... hold on why is that - it will almost certainly be because he bluffs too much! BOOOOM!

After this mini-epiphany I reshoved pretty quick and it looked like he was sick to find out I was even in the pot.  I later find out he didn't know we were 3 way until the decision was on me.

He opens up the  9h 5h and we have another 30% draw to dodge - cmon!!!!!!

We hold and are now CL with 48 left or something.
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After this its relatively simple and straight forward... between myself and the other big stack on my table on my right we won something near 90% of pots until the bubble but both instantly shut down after the bubble passed.

Then properly nitted up for about an hour or two and waited for hands/ spots to steal blinds... My stack wasn't in any danger and I saw no reason to push anything on a table with plenty of chips and some people who didn't like to fold too much.


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Enter Rupinder 'George2Loose' Bedi.....

Sigh, we know of Bedi but have never played with him.  Seen a lot of his UKIPT TV stuff and know he's got game but at the moment he doesn't have many chips.  So we decide to take it slowly and see how and what he does with the table and having the two big stacks to his left.......

After a few hands he shoves 91k - 8bb's @ 6/12k UTG and I find  Ad Td.. Which for me is really tough.  I know he 'should' be able to shove wide here but also if he's good then he should know its better to wait two hands and shove atc's vs the big stacks than it is risk the whole table.  I made the call and find myself dominated vs his  Aspades Qc and we do not win.  Sigh. 

We continue to nit it up and after a 3bt bb vs Bedi's btn folds to his 4bt shove we play pretty snug from here on.

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Then we have a hand vs the young indian looking guy and he's been super splashy and not folding any pair on the flop so I was being aggressive vs him but I saw Bedi play a hand vs him where Bedi just kept check calling him down and he still 3 barrel bluffed, even making the river pretty small.  So after this and a few other bits n pieces I decided to play my next value hand vs him pretty tricky.

I flat  Aspades Qs pre in CO to his UTG raise.. (utg doesnt mean strong range to this guy)

Pot 40k ish
FLOP
 Qd Jc 3s    or simlar

He cbets something like 75k and I take some time then call... my plan was to tank call each street, raising for value on the river if i improved or the board stayed safe.

Pot 190k
TURN
 9d

This turn could make it look like I have draws if i peel again and its super unlikely to improved him to a better hand but it has almost certainly given a big % of his range pair + gutty or pair + oesd so if he checks I'm betting really big but when he bets 95k I decide to just call....

Pot 380k
RIVER
 2h or another equally awesome brick.

He takes a while, looks at me, takes some more time and eventually puts together 125k.. at this point with his sizing along the way I have him on a middling strength type hand like AJ- Q10 etc.. and I'm 100% raising this river for value.  I only have about 260k left and take some time then say the magic words 'All in'.

After he finished apologising to his mum for being sick on his shoes and embarrasing himself he sigh calls off 1/3 of his remaining stack and has effectively donated 2/3 of his total stack before the hand to me in a monster 900k double up as he disgustingly mucks when I show my tptk.
After this hand he just blows up and then open shoves for the next hour or two even though its 40bb's... LOL eventually G2L picks off his bluffs with AJ vs the guys 88 and obv G2L binks a turn..... :D mbn.

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I'm now in the top3 chip stacks and am continuing to play solid and work my chips well while basically staying out of trouble and watching others bust or blow up in front of me.
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I am 100% sure that the reason I went so deep on day 2 was because of a more analytical approach to live MTT poker, reminding myself of the bb's the levels of play and my mental maturity growth this year.

I ran like god on day 1 for sure, and still made enough mistakes to not have 400k but day 2 was the best I've ever played, ever.
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From here on in we just play really solid, trying to keep G2L in check wherever possible but he's getting chips from the others and there's little I can do about that.  We get in a few pre flop scuffles but I think he thinks im not 'completely ****' so I don't expect him to mess around too much as I have 900k and if he gets it wrong he will be on fumes.

Other than this we play fairly standardly through the last 4 and last 3 tables, getting to the final 2.  I'm running well, playing well, feeling great, seeing the blonde support and ready for my first DTD big even final table.

Enter........................... Rupinder 'George I run so f*cking good at flips 2 loose' Bedi......



G2L has been having some problems dealing with Callum Smith on his right as Callum has played a mean short-ish stack and has been eyeballing George a lot.  When he tried to do something about it he doubled Callum up and had to start again.

Then Callum opens the BTN to 90k @ 20/40k playing 650k.... G2L quickly moves in for 1 mirrrion.

And we have  Ts Th and a 1.3 mirrion stack!  I instantly apologise to the table and see the 'panic/ worry' on G2L's face out of the corner of my eye.  I know he's not strong but do I really want to potentially flip vs KJ/ KQ/ AJ type hands as I think he has these a lot!  Problem is i start building his range to work out my equity as I know im going to be good a lot here but I want to work it out better.

I will have 2.4 of the 10mil in play when I win
I should be against a range of 22+,A8s+,KTs+,QJs,ATo+,KJo+
I have 58% vs that range
I should not fold here, esp vs the second best player left in the comp... sorry budi but I think Hulme is just on fire atm
I will call and win.

I reshove and then Callum sighs, laughs and says something about having the 3rd best hand in this encounter... I dont know what this means but hope it means that he's folded some of Bedi's outs.

And I see the gut renchingly annoying KJo...  So he has got 43.438% to play with, lets just win it John, that's what we do!


Pot 2.3 million (11 left and 10mil in play)
FLOP
 9h 7h 9d 

I'm like "that's a great flop, lets see another brick please.... even sweat me with a Q... I dont mind him hitting the crossbar"

TURN
 Ks

Sigh...... nevermind... still got 2 tens to hit.

RIVER
 Kc

Oh right, yer.... that's another K that... yep.  That pairs his card again, think that makes a good hand.  Pretty sure we're in turble now.. better get paddling!


I was honestly pretty gutted about that turn and river but I didn't say anything and sat down, worked out how man bb's I had and how I was going to play them. :D :D :D - (so proud of myself)

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We then get it in in consequtive hands with  Aspades Ts vs  Ad Jh and chop that one..
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Then next hand with  Aspades 7s vs  Th Td

And with a supremely tasty  Ts 9s  5h  I somehow brick the entire world and am out 11th.
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I wasn't even upset, not one bit.  I was and am chuffed I played so good, happy that I lost most of my stack in a great spot vs a very good player and that I didn't hold this time.  I didn't put myself at risk unless I had to and as such managed to not win my way as far as i did.

I lost less than the rest of them and at a slower rate..  THAT is how I made a deep run, and I intend to do the same again next time.





Woah, that was a short one as always... hope you enjoyed it.

Heres the best smiley cos we all love it.

 ;starwars;

nn




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 18, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
"After an orbit or so he opens in late position and I find the mighty   7s 2c  and believe this to be a really good spot to start hammering on him.  His range will be super wide here and when I 3bt to 20-25k I think he will be peeling too much and I then have to risk another 20-25k on the flop with a cbet.  Vs me he won't be folding any pair on the flop, so instead I think the best way to win this pot long term is actually going to be winning it preflop."

Ahrt

<3 JB


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Killer River on May 18, 2012, 04:38:55 PM
Nice diary john i enjoy reading it. But i have to say for your tournie life holding  Td Th in that spot even if you think he is weak with 11 left is a big error imo. like you said before its your biggest live tourney and the final table is in your hands. you don't have to take that risk ,even if your read was correct the % where very flippy. i would avoid taking these risks at this stage of the tourney against a big stack. But it was a ballsy call, next time use your head not your balls.

Keep up the good diary john its a very good read and gl to you.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on May 18, 2012, 04:41:18 PM
lol dont fold the tens, unlucky bro.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 18, 2012, 04:43:59 PM
lol dont fold the tens, unlucky bro.

yeh the TT is standard, ul.

72o...not so much ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 18, 2012, 04:46:17 PM
"After an orbit or so he opens in late position and I find the mighty   7s 2c  and believe this to be a really good spot to start hammering on him.  His range will be super wide here and when I 3bt to 20-25k I think he will be peeling too much and I then have to risk another 20-25k on the flop with a cbet.  Vs me he won't be folding any pair on the flop, so instead I think the best way to win this pot long term is actually going to be winning it preflop."

Ahrt

<3 JB

lol tytyty... no comment on the maths behind it alexander?


lol dont fold the tens, unlucky bro.

ty sir, I wont be able to put any hands in here but im going to do some study and get some more PS vids and tighten up some ranges in certain 'common' spots.

Any tips on this welcome, and obviously all other advice, gimme a shout mate.

Let me know when you want to start the Vid series, I'm super keen and want to work out times good for both of us asap.
UL on the deep scoop runs, I'm hoping I can see you in pkt55's top 10 sometime soon!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: George2Loose on May 18, 2012, 04:48:40 PM
Agree. I'd fold qq in that spot vs me


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 18, 2012, 04:53:20 PM
Agree. I'd fold qq in that spot vs me

Eat sh*t and die pls.

:D :D :D

So glad you were able to make a good run at it mate.


I was told by L'honore that 'our' stack was worth £30k in ICM moneyz..... so ur 'running good' for 5 bags! :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 18, 2012, 04:56:48 PM
Agree. I'd fold qq in that spot vs me

Eat sh*t and die pls.

:D :D :D

So glad you were able to make a good run at it mate.


I was told by L'honore that 'our' stack was worth £30k in ICM moneyz..... so ur 'running good' for 5 bags! :D

That can't possibly be true


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on May 18, 2012, 07:50:34 PM
Really enjoying the "Trip Reports" - amazed at how much detail you retain, are you sure your not making notes at the table, keep up the good work!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 18, 2012, 08:05:14 PM


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 18, 2012, 08:33:41 PM


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 19, 2012, 12:01:06 AM
Really enjoying the "Trip Reports" - amazed at how much detail you retain, are you sure your not making notes at the table, keep up the good work!

The answer is simple....

#lovethegamesomuchirememberthehighlights



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 20, 2012, 06:12:45 PM
Having a cracking time in x, work is a little frustrating as we've got a problem with sending things abroad at the moment.

There are a lot of airlines getting a little crazy about 'batteries' now, which means when I send anything abroad we have to take the batteries out first and send them in a different case/ box etc and send them as DAC Dangerous Air Cargo... well obv when you send something on a plane as DAC people get a little panic-y!

So I arrive, open up the bags and get all the kit out to find the ladders haven't made it yet because they were too 'long' to get on the plane.... err excuse me if the russians can put a plane in a plane and fly it around the world and the americans can put a space shuttle on a plane and fly it then I think Mr BA or Mr Branson can bloody well get a couple of sets of ladders in one.

On top of that the guy supposed to send us the batteries seems to think that they don't allow DAC to fly to x... which is obv bullsh*t as we already have another box of batteries sent by another guy in the same department.  SIGHHHHHH @ people not talking and the left hand holding the door open while the right hand wipes his own arse.....

Anyways, finish that and enter Saturday!!! its cheat day so i can enjoy all the rice, pasta, chips, etc... that i want! and puddings too... So I have a massive breakfast complete with french stick sandwhich that had 4 bits of bacon, 2 eggs, baked beans and lots of chilli!!!! BOOOM!  Nailed that and the rest of the stuff on my plate, while leaving i grabbed a chocolate croissant obv.

Get to Lunch and hit McDonalds harddd! I'm not a fan in the UK but in some countries McD's is actually good quality food, they use proper cuts of meat and good veg etc.... obv its still fast food but its better than normal... that and they have spicy chicken versions of things which is super tasty!

So Lunch involved
- Spicy Chicken burger meal, large obv with chips n Pepsi
- Double hamburger with no cheese and no gerkins.... wtf who thought about gerkin really?
- 5 Nuggets and spicy sauce
- Oreo and caramel McFlurry, was genius idea.

and a relaxing but fat tummy rub afterwards, while we watched the first fat person we've seen walk around and obv she's British and obv she hits McD's and only has a small pepsi..... lol love, you've done the damage already, might as well enjoy it.


Enter Saturday night....... We've got Sunday off and therefore get absolutely smashed on local beer in an Irish bar.... obv narrowing the country down for you then!

Most of you don't know me in this way but with drinking its kinda strange, sometimes I can be an absolute ledge but other times, 2 drinks and im puking in a gutter crying for my mother.

However this local beer and I have been friends for a while and shared many a glass of the old berry juice in the past.  So I'm comfortable to just drink and drink and drink.... We get to the Irish bar and pass a Dairy Queen on the way.  For many of you, you will not know what this means.. but fear not, I will describe it.  Basically its McFlurry style ice cream shop from america with a whole bunch of different 'specialities' and my favourite is the 'oreo blizzard' which has to be served to you upside down or its free.

It is a sickly sweet, cookie and ice cream combination with a straw that i think has more calories than we're supposed to consume in a whole day.. and it only cost me about £1.90. :D :D :D


Boom, I ordered a beer at the Irish bar and went back up the 200 steps to the shopping plaza to get to DQ!


Get back to the table and the two guys I'm with were just drinking but with no talking.... after I take 30 minutes to eat my ice cream and none of us has said a single word to each other except a gentlemans 'nod' in the direction of some local girls with their summery dresses/ short shorts on...

Well this isn't going to be fun is it... so I look around and call the girl from the bar over and ask her for a local 'custom'/ game where you have 5 dice in a cup each and you shake it then 'bluff' each other on how many of x number there are between you.

For example, I shake my cup and look to see 1x1, 3x4 and 1x6.... well 1's are wild and i have 3x4 so I'll be betting big with the number 4 in this game for value or betting big with the other numbers for a bluff.  I open the betting to 3x4's.... which means there must be 3x number 4 between our 15 dice... well that's obviously going to be easy to achieve so one of the other guys outbids me to 3x6.... and the next to 5x2.... etc etc etc... When you can no longer outbid someone you 'call' and then we count up their bet vs the actual dice!  If they were correct or there are more than they said then you drink.... if not they drink.


Pretty simple really and you may have seen it on 'Pirates of the Caribbean'.


We play this for most of the night, and eventually get the bar owners Chris and Shang involved.  Chris tends to the other customers but Shang is a laugh and injects some fun into the conversations. She calls over a mate, Vivi and now we've got 5x 5 dice in play which makes the game a lot of fun and starts to get very messy with bet sizing and bluffing being massive.  By this point I'm getting rather pissed, as are my colleagues and then Vivi leaves and we carry on.  Chris n Shang are setting up the projector outside for the footy and we end up leaving that bar going to a different one to watch the footy.  Continuing to get aboslutely smashed as we go.  I've lost the guys, maybe i left them at the bar, I can't remember.  And end up chatting to some scottish guy about how and why he came to x...
"lost my job and thought f*ck it, why not"..... lol people love this place.

I need to toilet and go to find only squat toilets and no toilet paper..... - uhoh I'm not very good at the balancing thing and I'm not able to do a proper squat with jeans on.... WTF.....

So I end up holding onto the plastic toilet door with one hand and leaning my arse back over the wet floor and trying to not shit into my own trousers... - deep joy!
Obviously I've got a monster one on the way and obv doing all this when I've had double digits worth of pints of ber already!

This takes goodness knows how long and eventually i get almost done, having changed hands on holding myself up on the toilet door a bunch of times.  I go to stand up then get a massive push and miss the hole in the fllor with that one... going all over the back of the 'cubicle' floor and the flushing pedal..... woops.  Finish and try to get a clean 'break' so theres nothing to wipe since I've got no toilet paper and we're done... waddle out of the stall and try to do my jeans up.  Cue headrush..  and I almost fall back into my own crap.... lolz.  #lifeofatravellingape

I get back out and while chatting to the guy and some girl and getting more drunk.. not sure who paid but my glass was never empty and i dont remember paying for anything... might've minesweeped a few I guess!?  Then the sun comes up and everyones shouting... I think Chelsea just won the Champions league, but I don't know for sure as I can't see the telly.

Eventually we're the only ones left and its like 0630am or something.. so time to go find the hotel.  Except I don't know where I am or where it is.  Ahhhh...

I don't know how long i was wandering around for but I find McD's and now know where I am, I go in but they only have the 'breakfast menu' which is horrible and ridiculous so I leggit and get back to the hotel. 

I wakeup in my armchair in my room at 12pm and decide I probably ought to go to bed, then wakeup around 1640 and decide today is a write-off... text my colleague to arrange tonights cinema and pass out.  1845 and we're up again, order room service but can't eat the salmon and veg when it comes to back to bed.  2000 and we're finally up for the day, eat the salmon and its time to go to see MIB 3!

Get to the cinema and they dont have MIB till next week so we get Avengers tickets and then go sit in the restaurant opposite, who clearly don't get white people in very often and the waitresses get us some beers while trying to take sneaky photos of us.  When my colleague spotted them she actually slowly crawled down behind a divide like in a cartoon sketch or something.. was so lol.  We ask them over and have photos with them all making silly faces and so on... :D 

Then Avengers in 3D and it rocked as hard as it did last week when I saw it...

Happy days but now I'm in my room, wide awake at silly o'clock in the morning and have to get up in a few hours for work.  GG me tomorrow... :D  S'ok havent got ladders to go up and the drills dont work without the batteries that aren't coming anyways!!!!


peace...

x


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on May 20, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Are you playing lie dice. Used to play it round here but we use dice with aces kings queens on etc


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on May 20, 2012, 08:11:28 PM
Not in Saudi this time then?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on May 20, 2012, 09:09:33 PM
Isle of man me thinks


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 21, 2012, 01:52:49 PM
Nothing much to report on.. just working a lot and sleeping a lot and trying to find carb free meals is proving pretty difficult without seeming like a 'twat' to my colleague.

It's strange how quiet i feel I am compared to 'back when'... there are so many random fos little things that just "fill the silences" that I don't say anymore that seem so stupid now...

Really is a shame it takes so long to learn anything... guess that's the idea though... - ape and a notebook after alll..... if I was something else it'd be a 'geek and a macbook' or something....

:D



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TightEnd on May 22, 2012, 05:22:32 PM
Better Insane Hedge than yours, sir

(http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/51beef48-106f-4a20-a6ad-3e82c65c366c/Large%20Image.jpg?p=120522_03:36)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 22, 2012, 05:33:56 PM
Great tekkers sir, nh, wp, gg.


:D

Tighty itt!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 23, 2012, 05:48:34 PM
hope everyone is good.. I'm absolutely nackered.  Doing 12hour+ days which will obv be great for the pocket but its a long day. 

Finally couldn't wait any longer today and nailed myself a foot massage, love them soooo much! 

Then after coming back to the room I couldn't help but order a little ice cream desert, its frusrtating that I've been on a no carbs no dairy diet for over 3 weeks which is supposed to make my weight crash and i've not lost a single gram..  Sigh.

Watching 'Burlesque' with Cher and Christina which is pretty sweet.... didn't recognise Christina but she really is a piece of work! (no offence ofc C)

Really want to play the May WSOP ME style 500 but im just not going to be home in time, sucks so bad but meh... job first until I make some 6fig profits is fair I reckon.  I'll play the 'next one'.  Just gotta have faith in DTD!

peace.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 28, 2012, 03:48:01 PM
no updates in 5 days? WTF  ;frustrated;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 28, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
super busy mate...

cliffs:
- lots of 12 hour days working
- lots of local beer, im a big fan and dont get bad hangovers!
- had a couple of foot massages and one full body massage in room! :D no offer of a special finish though... wtf!>?
- been destroying the food here! i like my food spicy and the chillies they have with everything are awesome, language barrier is tough tho!
- looks like we're going to be on time for work
- still planning on coming home on 4th, which means I miss the dtd mega500 wsop stylee... hope some hero wins it!  No offence to the 'everymen' out there but enough of them winning at the mo im afraid.  Its hero time!
- currently watching octopussy (<3 james bond obv) and nailing some beers while trying to do some 'things' i gota do, its not going so good atm.  (read - gettin drunk n distracted)
- can't get on facebook from here which makes everyday life/ chatting/ etc.. hard..



How are you sir?  How was your scoop in the end?  Any nearer to sorting your accomodation/ staking woes..?

ill be back soon enough.. then 10/25nl @ WPT and Diablo 3 are going to fkin get it!  That is after I've tired out C... she's getting it first! :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 28, 2012, 04:21:39 PM
That is after I've tired out C... she's getting it first! :P

Can't possibly get it any louder can he?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 28, 2012, 04:25:38 PM
SCOOP was rubbish, ridic tilting. So close yet so far so many times, but hey ho. ship the 500 this weekend touch wood. Want any action? Will need to sell a fair amount to play but it's too good value to miss imo


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 28, 2012, 04:31:23 PM
pm me details mate, but lock up 5%, reserve another 5.


And Lil'D, not everyone can have their fingers in every PLO pie.. instead I have a lovely lady...

We're all winners in this thread! :D (its what i tell myself)  Speaking of which, how are you sir?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 28, 2012, 04:34:35 PM
SCOOP was rubbish, ridic tilting. So close yet so far so many times, but hey ho. ship the 500 this weekend touch wood. Want any action? Will need to sell a fair amount to play but it's too good value to miss imo

I'll take up to 50%


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on May 28, 2012, 04:35:07 PM
SCOOP was rubbish, ridic tilting. So close yet so far so many times, but hey ho. ship the 500 this weekend touch wood. Want any action? Will need to sell a fair amount to play but it's too good value to miss imo

I'll take up to 50%

thats  a shotgun btw


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on May 28, 2012, 05:25:38 PM
ok, cool. im selling at 1.2 for 2 bullets so 5% = £60 u want that booking john? and alex you can take as much as u want up to 50%, message me :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on May 31, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
yer 5% mate, Alex can just suck up the rest. :D

gl dude! ill be back soon, so sick I can't play it.  Really feel like my whole appreciation for 'our level' of games is much improved and ive been rewatching the 2009 and 2010 wsop me over the last coupla days and im literally sick to the stomach with how absolutely terrible people play even deep into the 'big one'..... need to get there asap!

:D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: WPIL on May 31, 2012, 09:02:51 PM
Go over the and annoy the f**k out of them and get on TV and come across as a tool when you run DEEP!
GL


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 04, 2012, 01:15:42 PM
When you back bud?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 04, 2012, 01:18:16 PM
When you back bud?

lol perfect time mate, just typing this while you posted...



So, I'm done in Chongqing, China.. and now in the Hong Kong Virgin Atlantic business class lounge (naturally) and having a beer while chilling and lapping up the awesomeness of Hong Kong while actually brining something back for her majesty, good ol'Liz, well done on the Jubilee love.


I fucking love China.

Bascially it has involved some long assed days and some mentally drunk nights... I've woken up in my hotel room chair at like 4am a few times then decided to sleep the rest of the night (3hours) in my actual bed, before off to the next 12 hour day and next 7 hour session! :D :D :D


Other than that, I have the rest of the week off and going to be getting some hands in, want to get my groove on and get started on a video series for PS.com with Pads at the helm and im really looking forward to it.  I know that once I can really get hold of him on a regular basis I can do some serious damage to the levels I play at and the other ones within my reach.

Also, have a lot of life stuff going on this month.

I'm a best man on 9th June, my girlfriend is 30 on 11th June and I have a stag do in TALLINNNNNNN end of june! couple that with the pokers and getting some Diablo3 time in and we're good! :)


Going to nail my way through the poshboys blog and catch up on the recent concertz, concherto's, the crocket and the WSOP dtd500 to find out if our shared interest in MRLangley has resulted in some ££'s.... (hope its not a rub)


back soon all!

peace.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 05, 2012, 02:12:01 AM
It did not go well. I did not get above starting stack all day, grinded 20-30bigs for a few hours and then got slowrolled by JJ button v bb to bust. Didn't re-enter either so you only owe me £30.

On the flip side. ADAM SHIPPED IT! 47 bags! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 05, 2012, 07:40:52 AM
It did not go well. I did not get above starting stack all day, grinded 20-30bigs for a few hours and then got slowrolled by JJ button v bb to bust. Didn't re-enter either so you only owe me £30.

On the flip side. ADAM SHIPPED IT! 47 bags! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Money sent mate.... shame I didn't get a piece of the obviously golden Adam.... wp sir!!!

#pokerisaskillgame


I would like to know however, how it is that Mr Goulder is able to turn up to DTD every week and withdraw £5k+ from the community and someone hasn't yet started buying up rights to his genes/ children...?  wp mate. ul.


Couple all of the above with the fact I've just gotten home and found my little brother with a girl in my bed, and another girl in the 'spare room/ his room'...... WTF! they were kicked out of there pronto.  And now I'm on the 'beast' while I'm washing my sheets and eating their pizza and minstrels and watching the end of Mighty Ducks 1, with 2 and 3 the next things on Sky Action HD - <3 SKYHD!

so I guess I'm not going back to bed after my 24 hours travelling, time to get some diablo3 on... then when the boys wake up I'll put some hands in.


hmmmmm......

Can't help but say wp to Alex (my bro) as he is now snuggling the two of them in his room. lolz.  #justturned18


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on June 05, 2012, 07:44:42 AM
Seems he'll thank you for the eviction


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 05, 2012, 07:51:45 AM
Seems he'll thank you for the eviction

not sure he will, they both look like they crawled up from underneath a bridge to rob an old lady....

unfortunately next to his trainers there weren't two pairs of sexy high heeled shoes, but instead some grubby dirty 'sk8ta boi' trainers.... no offence ladies but its not the kind of thing that gets a mans blood pumping.

#cantwaitforcharlenetoturnupandshowemhowitsdone!



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on June 05, 2012, 07:56:49 AM

Seems he'll thank you for the eviction

not sure he will, they both look like they crawled up from underneath a bridge to rob an old lady....

unfortunately next to his trainers there weren't two pairs of sexy high heeled shoes, but instead some grubby dirty 'sk8ta boi' trainers.... no offence ladies but its not the kind of thing that gets a mans blood pumping.

#cantwaitforcharlenetoturnupandshowemhowitsdone!



Feel like I've been slowrolled here.

Or had my tens beaten by 77 making a flush on the river


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 05, 2012, 08:04:18 AM

Seems he'll thank you for the eviction

not sure he will, they both look like they crawled up from underneath a bridge to rob an old lady....

unfortunately next to his trainers there weren't two pairs of sexy high heeled shoes, but instead some grubby dirty 'sk8ta boi' trainers.... no offence ladies but its not the kind of thing that gets a mans blood pumping.

#cantwaitforcharlenetoturnupandshowemhowitsdone!



Feel like I've been slowrolled here.

Or had my tens beaten by 77 making a flush on the river

I know what you mean, I wanted to hi 5 him and instead I almost disowned him.

Its the kind of flush that says "yeah you win, I only have 7's..."  and then someone else says "oh do you have a club, there are four out there.."


And then he says "oh yer I got one of dem..."

:D :D :D



Fight back the sith infiltraitors.....
 ;starwars;


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 05, 2012, 11:18:07 PM
Went to see my god daughter parents im best man to next weekend and I've ended up at aspers Northampton plying a  £20 double chance with Celtic and lolling so hard @ live play and players. :D

Seriously how did it take me so long to get as 'bad' as I am?? Am I 'special' or something...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 06, 2012, 02:02:36 AM

Seriously how did it take me so long to get as 'bad' as I am?? Am I 'special' or something...

really want an answer to this? :P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 06, 2012, 02:14:43 AM

Seriously how did it take me so long to get as 'bad' as I am?? Am I 'special' or something...

really want an answer to this? :P

yeah... its been like 4 years or something..

VERRRY TIRED!
Anywhoo, home now after busting 1x 250bb bullet @ £1/1 cash game with Celtic and some local recreational players.

Pot (30bb's)
I managed to call pre in position with
Kc 7c

Pot (50bb's)
and 5 way I bet IP when checked to me on
Ks 4c 3c.

PFR is a bit spazzy and vs him I'm never folding this hand, so when he craises to £75, I snap shipped and he sigh called with  Kd Td ldo.





Bricks everywhere and you'd think a new tesco's that specialise in selling my balls back to me in a safe and securely packed wrapper was being built.  Turns out that 250bb's isn't coming back with friends.
Then the player tells me that he made a mistake and that he thought he had  Kd Qd - of course, because that would make perfect sense!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 06, 2012, 03:21:27 AM
tbf,  Kd Qd is better than  Kd Td


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 06, 2012, 04:17:56 AM
tbf,  Kd Qd is better than  Kd Td

it's also better than Kh Qh, for obvious reasons


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 06, 2012, 12:16:16 PM
tbf,  Kd Qd is better than  Kd Td

it's also better than Kh Qh, for obvious reasons

explain yourself.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 06, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
This is something that I hadn't been able to understand before, I thought that being 'rolled' for a game meant that you needed to have enough money to get over the 'bluffs that went wrong' or got called by that suspicious looking Soprano's wannabe who's girlfriend the entire table are gawping at.

But it turns out you need to be rolled, to deal with the variance of spots that wouldn't come up in online play because the average live pro (Alex, Keith, TLongley ) encounter situations that the rest of us don't because they get it in with any top pair apparently........


Its a simple but fundamental lesson.




Maybe in a few months I'll do a list of 'Johns top 10 rules for poker' just like Lil'D did a version of a while back.... could be interesting reading.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 06, 2012, 05:13:48 PM
cliffs on brothers 3some pls :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 07, 2012, 03:50:05 AM
cliffs on brothers 3some pls :)

- I came home at 5am to my bro in my bed with a girl, both dressed and both seperated by a cover between them.
- kicked him out and made him come outside in his boxers to help me unload the car of my stuff
- met the trampy other girl who was in 'his' room
- then kicked him into the room with the two of them
- a few hours later after I'd watched both Mighty Ducks 1 and 2 they all left
- He was back over yesterday with her again...
- to be continued.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on June 07, 2012, 07:32:38 AM
cliffs on brothers 3some pls :)

- I came home at 5am to my bro in my bed with a girl, both dressed and both seperated by a cover between them.
- kicked him out and made him come outside in his boxers to help me unload the car of my stuff
- met the trampy other girl who was in 'his' room
- then kicked him into the room with the two of them
- a few hours later after I'd watched both Mighty Ducks 1 and 2 they all left
- He was back over yesterday with her again...
- to be continued.

Stop giving more details, story is going downhill fast.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 07, 2012, 12:35:37 PM
Tell us about the 60's Dave, that must've been a magical time, no??


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 07, 2012, 11:05:23 PM
Just had a pretty sweet 10nl session where we WON like 3bi's.. would've been 4 but lost a 'meh' pot last few hands to try and drop morale.

Didn't work and feel like I played super solid all session, made one standard-ish AK mistake on Axxx - lol.  Turn raises = very good hands.

Keep this up and I'll move up stakes in 5-10k hands.  Want to be in and beating 50nl by Sept, its effectively two levels away but I can get there!

Other than that, feeling a little tired.  It's surprising how tiring grinding is, you obviously need to be in top healthy form and eat well and be rested in order to play well and mentally be at the top of one's game!  However having the 'beast' means that grinding is as 'easy' as possible with all the necessary info/ screens/ windows up and i can arrange and organise everything.


Off for some Bulmers and Diablo3... I've earned it.

My mum is graduating her masters tomorrow, so pumped for her!  She's brought myself and my brother up over the last 25 years and studied right from NVQ level 3/4 all the way through the ranks and despite some struggles in her last paper for her Masters she's got there and I couldn't be more proud.

Going to make sure Alex and I are there and able to help her enjoy the whole day!  All about her!

night all..



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 08, 2012, 10:19:20 PM
Went to my mums graduation ceremony today, so proud of her picking up her masters!

She's done all the study in her own time while raising two kids, taking care of a family, house, husband and general life... So proud and impressed!

Took some photos and hopefully gave her some great birthday presents in the form of photos of things I've seen while on my travels.  I gave her some big shots of tigers, lions, me with a baby white tiger and baby orangutan (seperately ofc) and some other awesome foreign bits.  I've got a massive panoramic of Strawberry Hill in Jamaica and an acrylic of a bee upside down in a flower which I'm particularly proud of - kinda got lucky with the dept of field and the composition but it looks SICK!!!

I would put some examples on here but the resizing I need to do to fit them loses all the sexy detail, shame.

Other than this, going to grind a bit now and then need to make a speech for tomorrow as I'm a best man for a mate of mine and am not really sure what to expect.... Really hope I don't mess it up and really hope everything goes how they hope.. can't help but fear the American Pie moments of pubes in the cake n so on..


peace.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on June 08, 2012, 11:31:26 PM
is it standard to write best man speech the night before the wedding?!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 01:03:36 AM
is it standard to write best man speech the night before the wedding?!

no idea.... tips?

:)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tonytats on June 09, 2012, 01:09:06 AM
I hope your mums day went well John ,? All to often you youngsters are alienated from us older ones and the sacrifices/ struggles we go thro to bring you younger generation up ,you havnt done it all , you don't know it all ,neither have we !
But it sounds like your mum is one of the best ,I hope she had a good day and made you as proud as she must be !


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 01:38:27 AM
I hope your mums day went well John ,? All to often you youngsters are alienated from us older ones and the sacrifices/ struggles we go thro to bring you younger generation up ,you havnt done it all , you don't know it all ,neither have we !
But it sounds like your mum is one of the best ,I hope she had a good day and made you as proud as she must be !

Thanks dude, I've already put a small folder of photo's up on facebook.  I'm super proud and just hope she gets to realise the occupational benefits she hopes this brings her - she's now as qualified as her boss's boss.  lolz indeed.

I didn't make life easy for her tbh and as a result my brother grew up in a tumultuous household with my step father and I arguing a lot.  He had a lot of aggression and behavioral issues right up until she fought tooth and nail and to the local council to get him into a 'special' school for challenged kids.  The funny thing is that in there, he was the goody toe shoes guy... hadn't stabbed anyone, threatened to kill anyone or mugged or got a police record.  Kinda shocked him into sorting himself out.  Which obv helped my mum and her own stress levels no end.  Couple this with some serious life saving surgery about 6 years ago that still pains her every day and she's a proper hero.   After she failed her last masters exam I saw the disappointment in her face, she thought she might never get there.... and I'm super pumped that not only she did, but she's letting herself enjoy it!

thanks again.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 01:38:57 AM
Got this so far....


Good afternoon ladies and gents,

For those of you who don't know me, I am one of Aaron's school friends and apparently... the best man.
For those of you who do know me, I am definitely one for public speaking, however saying something of value is a different thing entirely.

I have known Sarah for only a short time, but from what I've seen she has Aaron on the way to full training and I expect he will soon graduate from obedience school with honors.

I have however known Aaron for a long time, since secondary school.
We were in the same 'home room' together and had our communal classes together and some in our seperate 'sets'.
Our main class was Geography when we got to GCSE choices and we'd both picked the same one.
Many a class were spent going over oxbow lakes or population density in a sub-urban neighbourhood of Brazil, only for one of us to get bored
and then distract the other.  This often resulted in one or sometimes both of us outside Ms Willgress' class.  But this wasn't the worst fate
that was left to being given extra time with her and her 20 year old cardigan that I swear had never been washed.

However we both seemed to prefer PE and our main teachers were a certain Mr Nelson and Ms Migneron.  They were both firm and loud, but while we stayed on the right side of them
and won matches or performed for them they were happy with letting us do what we liked a lot of the time.  I do however remember one of our field hockey sessions getting a little out
of hand when Aaron, Colin and I were passing a hockey ball to each other from 50 yards away at waist height.  We were the only players in the team able to deal with such
a ball and that allowed us to mess around in a way the others couldn't.  The only problem with this is that one time one of us missed the ball and it hit a girls hand,
this then broke the bones


So academically we did our piece and both came out with a handful of GCSE's


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 01:48:14 AM
just found this, could be a godsend.....

something online.com

shame they want to charge me.... just use the free ones then.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Eso Kral on June 09, 2012, 02:08:38 AM
Very important you say how beautifull the bride and bridesmaids look ;)

Glgl


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 02:35:58 AM
somethingelseonline.co.uk/wedding-speeches


been saved! currently using this to help me construct a winnar!  Just hope I get enough sleep to be able to say it loud and clearly.  (could be a youtube hit for sure..)


Thanks Rich, more tips welcome...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: th777 on June 09, 2012, 02:39:25 AM
is it standard to write best man speech the night before the wedding?!

lol, mine took like 3 weeks of prep......cant go wrong with youtube mate...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 02:51:01 AM
And it looks like we're done....


•   Right, I’d just like to start by laying down a couple of rules. Firstly, no heckling please. And secondly, if you do have a mobile phone…please, leave it switched on; keep yourselves entertained.  I think if you keep your spirits high and your expectations low, everyone will be happy.

•   A wise man once told me that the best man’s speech should last as long as it takes the groom to make love …..(pause 5 seconds, finger count 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0) Thank you very much ladies and gentleman.

•   For those of you who don’t know me, I am John one of Aaron’s best friends.  I have the honour of being his best man. ….it is a great honour,  but in all honesty I am actually a little nervous about doing this…. but I do feel a bit comforted by the fact I have actually rehearsed this speech in front of a live audience once…..
 it  was at the local old peoples home, …… I think it went down well,…..they all pissed themselves anyway

•   Firstly I’d like to congratulate Fez on a (truly magnificent)/ (great) speech. I always knew it would be difficult to follow one of your speeches, and I Was right...I couldn’t follow a bloody word of it!

•   Seriously …I would like to say a big “thank you” to the bridesmaids for today….as you will all agree they have done a marvellous job and all look fantastic….

•   Indeed they are only eclipsed by Sarah herself, who I’m sure you’ll agree looks absolutely stunning.

•   I would also like to thank the ushers……for at least turning up sober…nice one boys!

•   You know during the service today I couldn’t help thinking it’s funny how history repeats itself, I mean it was 23 years ago that Fez and Julie were sending their daughter to bed with a dummy………


•   and it’s happening all over again today.

•   I decided to look up some interesting dates of major events…

•   On November 12 -
1918   Austria became a republic
1948   Japanese soldiers sentenced for war crimes
1978   Pope John Paul 2nd takes possession of the Catholic Church, as the Bishop of Rome
1979   Iranian hostage crisis

And Aaron Hughes was born…. but it seems that the hospital staff still refer to that day as “Ugly TUESDAY”.  In fact Aaron was the only baby in XXXXX to have shutters on his pram!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Breathe--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

•   Well I first got to know Aaron when we started in secondary school at Shenley Brook End back when we were young. He was a slow starter even then…he wasn’t like all the other 11 year olds….he was 16!

•   Since then we went right through school together where Aaron was always……..  In the class.  We studied together until our GCSE’s, when we both went our own separate ways. Aaron went off to the Royal Air Force based out of …………………………………….….to learn to ……………………………………………..and I went off to the FCO, to sign my life away without a gun.



•   Some of you may be aware of Aaron’s passion for Rugby. What many of you don’t know is that his interest in the sport was borne during his time at school. Aaron is a modest man - well, that’s what he has insisted I tell you - so his Rugby achievements are little known. But I can reveal today that at school, Aaron SCORED more try’s than any other person in the entire Rugby team - that was because he was always 12th man putting up the numbers on the scoreboard

•   I actually decided that it might be a good idea to ask a few people at his work what they thought of Aaron. So I spoke to a couple of his work colleagues and apparently they refer to him as GODLIKE…..

•   he’s rarely seen…..

•   he’s holier than thou…..

•   AND if he ever does any work…….. it’s a bloody miracle!!!

•   Many of you may be aware that Aaron and Sarah have been living together. The house has required a little bit of DIY work over the past year thanks to a certain little someone, and anyone who knows Aaron will know that he is not exactly a DIY king…..However, in order to get the house looking good and the bedroom just right…
•   He assures me that over the past months he and Sarah have been banging and screwing at every opportunity.

•   At this point in my speech I would have liked to have told you about the stag nights both of them, but the law of the stag does not allow me to do this, and besides Aaron's Dad’s solicitor has advised caution until the charges are fully investigated.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Breathe--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now it’s customary for the best man to give some words of wisdom to the newlyweds on marriage. Me being single, I can’t speak from experience so I went out looking for happily married couples that could offer some advice…... I’m still looking!!!
But I’ve drawn up my own words of wisdom…...

1.   Never go to bed on an argument.............Always stay up and argue.
2.   Always remember the three little words..........."You're right dear".
3.   The best way to remember your anniversary……… is to forget it once.
4.   It is important to get on with your mother in law… My friend hasn’t spoken to his for two years….. Not because he doesn't like her……….. he just doesn't like to interrupt.

There is also a card from those guys from the Bletchley Rugby Club. It says,….
‘Aaron was useless in all positions but we hope Sarah has more luck with him later’….. not sure what that means but anyway…

I would now like to thank Aaron, it really has been a great honour to be your best man today, you are more like a brother to me than a friend.
I love you man.

So then, Ladies and gentlemen, it gives me immense pleasure, to invite you all to stand and raise your glasses …….in a toast to Aaron and Sarah, the new Mr and Mrs Hughes.  May we wish them well for the future, and hope they enjoy a long and happy marriage.

Aaron and Sarah.





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: th777 on June 09, 2012, 03:02:36 AM
seems v.good.......cant believe that only took you an hour :(  )


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 03:08:41 AM
seems v.good.......cant believe that only took you an hour :(  )

tyvm sir, like I said above... internet is a wonder for help/ tips etc... its all personal which is the idea but seems very jokey to me... almost to much..... hmmmmm


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Eso Kral on June 09, 2012, 03:20:00 AM
Vvv good 

dont panic JB just imagine them all naked ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: th777 on June 09, 2012, 03:20:43 AM
seems v.good.......cant believe that only took you an hour :(  )

tyvm sir, like I said above... internet is a wonder for help/ tips etc... its all personal which is the idea but seems very jokey to me... almost to much..... hmmmmm

yeh i mean it'll go down brilliantly just try to deliver it.... but best man speeches tend to get all the laughs as people are already pretty merry from the wine at the tables. People will be buying you drinks all night.... the one thing that could help to break up the constant funny one liners is maybe introduce a prop.......my example was a pair of headphones to cover my grans ears when i was about to say something rude. gl tho


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 03:45:57 AM
got it loaded onto phone... here we go. night all.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 09, 2012, 08:06:19 PM
Speech delivered.. Applause had.

[X] good tekkers!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Killerkilsby on June 10, 2012, 10:49:43 AM
N1. Did you remember it all?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 10, 2012, 02:32:17 PM
N1. Did you remember it all?

put it into a word document and emailed it to myself, therefore having it on my phone.... only had one technical hitch - when near the last paragraph it decided to go all the way to the top and i had to scroll down again, made for an amusing "talk amongst yourselves" moment. :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 11, 2012, 12:47:15 AM
Had a mental weekend and was the best man for a good friend of mine at his wedding, will do a 'trip report' of it sometime this week.  But managed to put a couple of 500 hand sessions in, still making a couple of mistakes but so many less than ever before.

I feel like I'm really playing solid at the moment and love the game!

I hope some of you have managed to get through the posts above, any comments welcome.

Just gota get hold of Pleno for the video series for you guys.  He wants to do a series, which I hope will be me going from 10nl up to 50nl (on a shot) and really work my game up. :D :D

laters..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 11, 2012, 01:19:24 AM
looking forward to a TR from your next online session.

My prediction:

"Played SUPER solid all session except for one tiny bluff/spew in a sick metagame spot with a guy who knows I can 4b/6b light so I peeled a cold 5b with 83suited and double floated AA5J then donk shoved river for 1/10 pot knowing he can't call with anything except quad aces since I can't be bluffing when I shove the river for 1/10 pot, somehow he finds the call with AK, WP sir. Ended up losing $4.50 when I was up $34 before that hand :(. Really happy with my game though and playing really really solid still except for the occasional mishap".

;bumwiggle; ;starwars;

edit: forgot the standard "can't wait to continue to crush and actually have some hands I can bet for value because they just don't fold! value + villains not folding = $$$$$!!!!"


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 11, 2012, 02:16:16 AM
very very very similar.....

:D



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: tikay on June 11, 2012, 06:59:40 AM
looking forward to a TR from your next online session.

My prediction:

"Played SUPER solid all session except for one tiny bluff/spew in a sick metagame spot with a guy who knows I can 4b/6b light so I peeled a cold 5b with 83suited and double floated AA5J then donk shoved river for 1/10 pot knowing he can't call with anything except quad aces since I can't be bluffing when I shove the river for 1/10 pot, somehow he finds the call with AK, WP sir. Ended up losing $4.50 when I was up $34 before that hand :(. Really happy with my game though and playing really really solid still except for the occasional mishap".

;bumwiggle; ;starwars;

edit: forgot the standard "can't wait to continue to crush and actually have some hands I can bet for value because they just don't fold! value + villains not folding = $$$$$!!!!"

Alex is the greatest.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 11, 2012, 04:15:25 PM
link to other 'identicle blog' for those interested..

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=1095629#post1095629



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: millidonk on June 11, 2012, 04:24:57 PM
I actually started reading your opening post again, then I said to myself wtf am I doing! It took about 18hrs to get through it the first time around..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 11, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
I actually started reading your opening post again, then I said to myself wtf am I doing! It took about 18hrs to get through it the first time around..

Thanks,

Its the same opening post and the same DTD500 trip report... need to give them a taste of the 40 pages..

Hope you're enjoying the ramblings.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 11, 2012, 07:29:52 PM
Just played a 500 hand session and feeling great about the first 490 of them....

Had a couple of tough decisions in the last couple of orbits on one table against this guy I'd been crushing.

1.  This is his first overbet, I don't like it and can't see much that I beat..
http://weaktight.com/4755780

2.  This was a couple of hands later and decided to try and 'set him up' for another overbet.. as I figured he would expect it to work more than he should.  I thought he was getting frustrated with me and esp with the hand above..
http://weaktight.com/4755786

3. This was a perfect finish and I decided to just flat the turn to cc any river, then on this one figured that actually they wouldn't be able to fold Ax and there is only 78 that makes sense and beats me.
http://wt.ag/N4vEIU


thoughts people??



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 11, 2012, 08:17:09 PM
Fold pre in hand 1 to the 3bet and fd pre in hand 3 utg.

FOld river in hand 1 don't think it's a bluff line. Hand 2 depends on what u did in hand 1 ducy?

Hand 3 just b/c turn?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 11, 2012, 08:31:19 PM
Fold pre in hand 1 to the 3bet and fd pre in hand 3 utg.

FOld river in hand 1 don't think it's a bluff line. Hand 2 depends on what u did in hand 1 ducy?

Hand 3 just b/c turn?

[X] Folded hand 1

[ ] Folded hand 2

[X] Shoved river hand 3, I wanted to bet/call turn tbh....

:D :D :D much better decisions imo rather than "what are you doing in a pot from UTG with 105o John?"




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 12, 2012, 11:50:12 PM
can anyone pm details of any places people download things from if you know what i mean?

I used to use vuze/ bittorrent but last time i tried they weren't very good.......



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 13, 2012, 06:20:57 PM
Been sorting up and arranging some training at work, which will involve some time down in Southampton again.

I was down there for 4 weeks a couple of years ago and had a cracking time while earning an NVQ lvl 4 diploma.  There's some super soft action in both Southampton and Portsmouth so that will be interesting - i 'may dabble'...

but tbh it will be great for grinding.. I'm thinking ill take my pc with me and take one monitor... then I can grind and play diablo! :D


Currently chatting to lil'd and finding out first hand how degen these psycho UK hopefuls really are!

I highly recommend his blog...
http://lildaveslife.blogspot.co.uk/

It takes a while to get through but its well worth starting from the beginning to understand how he knows Cody, Perrins, Channing and the rest of the UK mob, how he lost two of his fingers, and how he manages to do his bollucks in every single $50k pot he finds himself in! :D

<3 dave.

Other than that, its time for some more grinding tonight, but morale is very high as C is moving in TODAY!

Going to get some nandos to suprise her with, and then bring her home to chill and settle in....... Won't seem much different for a bit as she comes up for 2-3 weeks at a time anyways... but the plan is that this is 'it'.  Until Fathers day on Sunday when she's going home again. :D

Also funking for England and im going to be a bit of a 'lad' about it and invite everyone I know to come and watch the game @ mine this friday! So consider yourselves all invited!

Errr..... not sure what else right now.. but have tomorrow and friday off, so going to 'get it' and try to win @ pokers! gl me.

peace




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 13, 2012, 11:16:13 PM
[00:15:01] John Blackit turns out that you were right...
[00:15:01] John Black: :$


yesssssssssssssssssssss.

got some great exercises for john to do now that will help him complete his transition from live -> cash player. nobody does this kinda coaching technique but going to work great


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 14, 2012, 01:44:00 AM
[00:15:01] John Blackit turns out that you were right...
[00:15:01] John Black: :$


yesssssssssssssssssssss.

got some great exercises for john to do now that will help him complete his transition from live -> cash player. nobody does this kinda coaching technique but going to work great

I'll owe you a lot in the long term mate, so glad you offered the stake.  And i know i've been a disappointment so far, unfortunately I start to get overseas jobs with work the second you back me - ofc!  but I know you know that I #lovethegame as much as anyone we know..

And i feel like I listen so much better, I try almost anything and I'm showing that I'll put in the work when able to....

It's a really tough way to make an ez £ or $ but LEGGGGGOOOOO!!!!


(any techniques/ ideas welcome.... bring them to the people if you want, or we can trial in secret and ill just post winning graphs like you showed me earlier to prove they work and you're the greatest)
[Pleno showed me a graph earlier of him dropping down to 200/400nl for the last 50k hands... He's made over £30k profit.... CONFIRMED sicko]


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 14, 2012, 11:54:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=aF4CWCXirZ8

currently obsessed with the youtube game.. where you start with one video and then ONLY play one of the suggested ones and you have to 'navigate' through youtube to what you want....



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on June 14, 2012, 03:19:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=aF4CWCXirZ8

currently obsessed with the youtube game.. where you start with one video and then ONLY play one of the suggested ones and you have to 'navigate' through youtube to what you want....



gonna take a long time to get from that to Stefan Postma...


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: millidonk on June 14, 2012, 03:20:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=aF4CWCXirZ8

currently obsessed with the youtube game.. where you start with one video and then ONLY play one of the suggested ones and you have to 'navigate' through youtube to what you want....



gg life. Similiar to the wiki game, how many clicks to get to Hitler.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 14, 2012, 11:08:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=aF4CWCXirZ8

currently obsessed with the youtube game.. where you start with one video and then ONLY play one of the suggested ones and you have to 'navigate' through youtube to what you want....



gg life. Similiar to the wiki game, how many clicks to get to Hitler.

milligan, why the new account sir?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 15, 2012, 01:48:45 AM
Getting crushed atm..

lost a few standard all ins, one terrible one and an unfortunate couple of hands.. c'est la vie.

I think i have a really great mindset, i just need more time atm. With every hand I'm growing in appreciation of both poker and patience.

I have a lot more respect than i used to for the 50k+ month grinders... esp since my mate pulls 125k+ regularly.


Its definitely the hardest way to earn an easy $ i know!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 15, 2012, 02:59:47 AM
Getting crushed atm..

lost a few standard all ins, one terrible one and an unfortunate couple of hands.. c'est la vie.

I think i have a really great mindset, i just need more time atm. With every hand I'm growing in appreciation of both poker and patience.

I have a lot more respect than i used to for the 50k+ month grinders... esp since my mate pulls 125k+ regularly.


Its definitely the hardest way to earn an easy $ i know!

Kept morale high and didn't look at graph much throughout session but knew I was losing in the start/ mid stages...

Thought I was still losing, but just less now... then i looked and over 3hrs and 751 hands I have won a total of $-2.46. :D :D :D
#lovethegame

Feeling so chuffed with this session, so much good in it.  So much discipline, and still a few mistakes... maybe 2bi's worth.
Loving it though!

Shame about the 2bi's worth of runbad but meh....  Tc 8c is supposed to beat  Ahrt Kh aipf 37.912% of the time anyways!


keeeep it up, more time pls.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 15, 2012, 03:29:38 PM
HH for Tc 8c or gtfo


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: millidonk on June 15, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=aF4CWCXirZ8

currently obsessed with the youtube game.. where you start with one video and then ONLY play one of the suggested ones and you have to 'navigate' through youtube to what you want....



gg life. Similiar to the wiki game, how many clicks to get to Hitler.

milligan, why the new account sir?

coz I am a filthy donk and need to be reminded of that fact!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 15, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=aF4CWCXirZ8

currently obsessed with the youtube game.. where you start with one video and then ONLY play one of the suggested ones and you have to 'navigate' through youtube to what you want....



gg life. Similiar to the wiki game, how many clicks to get to Hitler.

milligan, why the new account sir?

coz I am a filthy donk and need to be reminded of that fact!

how can you just get a new account name?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 15, 2012, 06:04:52 PM
HH for Tc 8c or gtfo

http://wt.ag/LanQmB

happens to the best apparently... :D



Takes a long assed time to slowly turn your thinking (mine) around and realise that you're playing a fraction of 'the game' each session... a mere 0.xx% of your total life 'poker game'.
Once you start to realise that and think like that it becomes so much easier to not randomly spew or needlessly give away a few bb's.

Really feel like I'm progressing well and that I've learned a lot since the start of this diary, I think it was the end of January, so i guess its almost 6 months....


woah...  Lets get some more going in the next 6.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 15, 2012, 06:27:58 PM
sigh thought it was u with the T8, anymore spew HHs for the fans?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: millidonk on June 15, 2012, 06:29:44 PM
Alex, Need to FT x3 MonteCarlos or FT a blondebash for a name change.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on June 15, 2012, 06:33:17 PM
Alex, Need to FT x3 MonteCarlos or FT a blondebash for a name change.
Lol. Heads up for rolls with him. I hear Rob really rates your game and was impressed Milly :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: millidonk on June 15, 2012, 06:51:28 PM
He was highly complimentary tbf, tipped me for big things, just waiting for the staking deal to be put on the table... Got it in good that's all I can do mate.

Alex would turn up with bags of money I would turn up literally with bread rolls. Jase my networth would barely enable me to buy one of your fake hoodies.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on June 15, 2012, 07:14:42 PM
He was highly complimentary tbf, tipped me for big things, just waiting for the staking deal to be put on the table... Got it in good that's all I can do mate.

Alex would turn up with bags of money I would turn up literally with bread rolls. Jase my networth would barely enable me to buy one of your fake hoodies.
Lol. I had to pawn one mate. I'm on the proper bones of my arse. Want to sell action but I ain't got the personality to take all the flaming on here or the ability to write the op. If only there was somewhere I could gO to help me out :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 15, 2012, 07:16:29 PM
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Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on June 15, 2012, 07:20:14 PM
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Magnified x 1000 and still can't see it :)

Are you in Vegas? Thought I saw you say you were on a plane the other day but then saw you did not need any dough till next week


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 15, 2012, 07:35:33 PM
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Magnified x 1000 and still can't see it :)

Are you in Vegas? Thought I saw you say you were on a plane the other day but then saw you did not need any dough till next week

not till next thursday mate.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on June 15, 2012, 07:43:32 PM
.
Magnified x 1000 and still can't see it :)

Are you in Vegas? Thought I saw you say you were on a plane the other day but then saw you did not need any dough till next week

not till next thursday mate.
Ok cool gl with it


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 15, 2012, 09:16:35 PM
sigh thought it was u with the T8, anymore spew HHs for the fans?

doesnt happen anymore...... :D :D :D

There was a 5bt shove with KQo which i think is relatively standard... blockers innit but obv ran into AA. :)

Oh and my AA lost to KK aipf, they guy made it 6x pre and i made it equally huge, then he 'timebank' shoved... was so comical!




Good luck in vegas dude, keep us all updated pls.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 16, 2012, 11:07:00 PM
just starting a proper session as we played a satellite session earlier trying to get into the stars passport satellite tonight.

[ ] went well...
[X] played some omaha and nlhe tournaments
[ ] cashed in any..

:D :D

Anyone that wants to skype or sweat me is welcome to do so, add my skype that's on page 18 or something.. its something like john.black.grinder or something.

peace out.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 17, 2012, 04:18:25 AM
Just finished a long session but feeling super good about it!

played so solid, made a mistake or two near the start then just grinded my ass off and after a few swings.. most brutal was getting to 2bi's up then blowing it down to 1.5bi down in like 100 hand stretch... finished highest point of night at over 2.5bi's which is meh...

But its all bb's people! =  won @ 21.29bb/100 over 1200 hands... BOOM!

Graph looks horrid tho as its got a super slow down redline but an up and up and up blue... (red = non showdown/ blue = showdown)
(means I had the best hand at the river a lot but folded in the hands a LOT)

but the green is all that matters and $$ in the + column is the idea.



Even have a couple of examples of 'standard' online stuff but coming from a live background this literally makes my skin crawl to do it.

Check this out:
1.
http://wt.ag/LwEHN5

2.
http://wt.ag/LwEMQR

3. Was really annoyed with this as I kinda 'expected it', shoulda checked back but meh... going to shove it up his ass next time!
http://wt.ag/LwF7mI

4. biggest pot of all 1227, easily a stupid and unrepeatable mistake.. had callum on the skype n teamviewer at the time, he was like WTF u doing... u mug...
http://wt.ag/LwFg9M

[X] mug confirmed.

5. didn't get there...
http://wt.ag/LwFqOk



HOWEVER... some good hands... :D :D :D

1. I literally typed in skype "I've just gotten lucky vs AA I think..." on the flop of this hand.
http://wt.ag/LX0IsK
wp sir

2.  Seems spewy but i expected this guy to have literally atc here, or any purr..... definitely for value..
http://wt.ag/LX0TUM

3. GAME OVER - please insert more coins
http://wt.ag/LX13vs

4. Little sick i guess, but meh... whatever... definitely think i shoulda reshoved flop.
http://wt.ag/LX1k1u

5. Was also typing in chat to Callum, "this guy is taking off here, I'm cc any river.... ohhhh snap.... and ......................................win, ty." (as callum says 'i wouldnt call here, its for value...')
http://wt.ag/LX1C8u

In yo face....



So that's my evening.. had a couple of wodka cokes, enjoying some authentic Russian wodka, can't type the name as its in cyrillic but meh.. tasty.  Now to bed and to apparently take C to the train station in the morn... gl me.

peace..

p.s.  When i have a graph or something looking even remotely decent, I'm going to get it and rub it all over the titties in Alex 'made100kez' and Pleno 'beatseverythingthatcanuseacomputer' 's joint faces! :D :D :D





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 19, 2012, 12:28:28 AM
Today is a big day....

Today marks our first LEVEL UP!
  (in this case it is 'going back up' but still its going UP!)


Had a chat with Pleno yesterday and he confirmed out BRM system will be as follows

20bi's with a 4bi drop down.
Equates to =
10NL              - $200
25NL              - $500
50NL              - $1000
100NL            - $2000


And today we finished the session +$37.61 over 563 hands and won at a 66.63bb/100 rate, which puts our BR at $508.77



This marks my official re-entry to 25NL and hopefully I will be staying there and moving through rather swiftly now I'm playing so much more solidly and fundamentally stronger.

Had a sweet 1-2-combo today where I table selected a fish and a few hands into the second table with him I called a bluff of his on  Ac 2s 3h Jh 8d
where I check flop, he checks back, I check call turn and he pots river... I've already decided I'm calling ANY river and snap.  I had  Qs Jd and he turns up with  Ks Th. :D
Then INST-3bt him on the other table... and this happens!>>>>

http://wt.ag/Mn8QPQ
 ;starwars;
I loll'ed so hard it made a little weeee come out.


I then proceeded to play really solid and bleed so little, I tried to 'win' a few hands that weren't rightly mine by check raising or donking in spots where I expected folds - I got them and I managed to make a few nice calls!

All in all, good day at the office and
"we're moving on up.... its time to break free...... nooooothing can stop me!"        
     
(except losing $50 tomorrow and hitting stop loss and bi loss in one go - but hey ho..)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 19, 2012, 12:35:42 AM
<3 JB. Especially this bit!

I then proceeded to play really solid and bleed so little, I tried to 'win' a few hands that weren't rightly mine by check raising or donking in spots where I expected folds - I got them and I managed to make a few nice calls!



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 19, 2012, 12:37:42 AM
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc416/cambridgealex/so-solid-crew-j-bees.jpg)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 19, 2012, 12:59:15 AM
<3 JB. Especially this bit!

I then proceeded to play really solid and bleed so little, I tried to 'win' a few hands that weren't rightly mine by check raising or donking in spots where I expected folds - I got them and I managed to make a few nice calls!





Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on June 19, 2012, 01:04:45 AM
Are you not tempted to do Vegas with team eureka?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 19, 2012, 01:53:11 AM
Would love to... The lads seem like a great bunch.

A few problems...

[ ] Roll could stand a Vegas trip
[X] Keys currently thinks I'm a grimm-ing ****                                    (insert your favorite appropriate word)
[ ] Sure got an invite to go to Vegas with ANYONE this year..              (even the 'northampton lot' - got very drunk and offended some at a house party last year... cest la vie)
[X] Grinding my little ass off and getting to 100nl is MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OTHER POKER GOAL
[X] Said I'm going to win a £300+ tourny this year and [ ] won one yet...



Other than that... yer I'm on the plane. :D

No problems mate, s'always next year.  Will be paying more attention to satelliting in as well.

Want to play
[ ] An EPT
[ ] An IPT
[ ] Many UKIPT's
[ ] WSOP ME
[ ] WSOPE event

and why not throw in a
[ ] WPT

Although I'm going to need some serious advice from Alan T if I'm going to get my 'Hedge' up to scratch.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 19, 2012, 07:06:31 PM
First 25nl session went ok...

Check this out:



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 19, 2012, 10:21:34 PM
solid session is solid, wp.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 19, 2012, 10:21:58 PM
so solid john, wp


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 19, 2012, 10:30:29 PM
This is the big loss hand...

I didn't love the river bet at the time, I'd been battling this guy on two tables, thought i'd test him.

http://wt.ag/MqSJB2

lol.... no problems!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 19, 2012, 10:33:28 PM
Yeah that river bet is really bad. If he folds you have the best hand ppl don't like to fold heads up


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 19, 2012, 10:33:37 PM
is 4x bvb standard? <-- honest question btw not trolling or anything.

worst runout to be barelling ever :D don't think i like it :(


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 19, 2012, 10:54:49 PM
Yeah that river bet is really bad. If he folds you have the best hand ppl don't like to fold heads up

yer i didn't love it... but I thought it was 'such' a bad river bluffing card that it would be really tough/ impossible for a 'semi-decent' player to be calling in that spot bvb.

I overbet it because i think that 50-110%pot gets called like 80% time.. but once i go above 120%... the bet gets called so rarely by a Q9/QJ/QK range that I think it will profitable.. and obv he should have a chunk of hh hands.

is 4x bvb standard? <-- honest question btw not trolling or anything.

worst runout to be barelling ever :D don't think i like it :(

its standard for me, I saw it in a video and i find that it means I get a massive amount of folds.. and then when I play a pot I can normally adjust to opponent tendancies that I 'think' I'm making it profitable- not 100% but its gotta be close at minimum.  Obv as i move up this will have to be fine tuned.


Like I said above, I hated this particular river card, there are SOOO many that are good for me... shame it wasn't one of those imo.

Meh - still won 4 bi's = can't be playing that bad! :D :D :D
(jk pleno)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 19, 2012, 11:35:43 PM
No I'm happy.

Ak hand is really bad just understanding boards to barrel is so important and I'm sure you will continue to grow and improve your fundamentals.

You have the desire and intelligence to beat 200 and beyond. Stick with it and will
All be worthwhile.

Don't chase Vegas or epts just try to Adam Reynolds for ow


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 19, 2012, 11:36:27 PM
Btw I think that post I made which may have seen at the time harsh will acty be the major urbing point in your poker
Career


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 19, 2012, 11:41:52 PM
No I'm happy.

Ak hand is really bad just understanding boards to barrel is so important and I'm sure you will continue to grow and improve your fundamentals.

You have the desire and intelligence to beat 200 and beyond. Stick with it and will
All be worthwhile.

Don't chase Vegas or epts just try to Adam Reynolds for ow

huh???

Btw I think that post I made which may have seen at the time harsh will acty be the major urbing point in your poker
Career

I said and knew it at the time... I appreciate it mate - really do!

Its why im so pumped to get hold of you, you slippery little jordie!  I 'knew' it was a bad runout, Callum and I have been discussing good ones, in all honesty I knew it was a bad runout and knew i probably shouldn't both but felt like such a hero being 3bi's or whatever up at the time I 'went' for it... as he will have heart draws some % and won't hero me with tp all the time...
Really am working on it, and really think I'll need your help to crack 50nl and 100nl this year... got my grinding boots on - help pls.

:D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 19, 2012, 11:53:53 PM
i 4x bvb 100bbs deep as standard.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 19, 2012, 11:54:19 PM
From a fundamental and game theory pov I doubt there is anybody better than Callum to speak too btw.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 19, 2012, 11:55:39 PM
Regarding bvb 3x is definitely standard 4x just worsens your price.

Reasons to 4 villain never folds and we adjus by opening very tighter but larger for value.

Reasons to 2.5x villain only 3bets or folds


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 12:15:52 AM
Regarding bvb 3x is definitely standard 4x just worsens your price.

Reasons to 4 villain never folds and we adjus by opening very tighter but larger for value.

Reasons to 2.5x villain only 3bets or folds

I am opening a tighter range, as you said.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 07:53:21 PM
Yesterday's awesomeness is being undone by todays poor play/ horrible spots. 

Think I've 'gotten there' 2 or 3 times with gutshots to straights only to lose to a FH... obv - marv.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
Knew today was bad, but wasn't 100% on how bad.

Going back down to 10nl tomorrow.

ouch.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 09:38:46 PM
So after playing nice and solid for a while and earning 25nl, and then focusing yesterday to make sure I didn't lapse into 'old John'....


Well i waited an extra day but it happened.


So upset with myself i almost debated not posting this but if i don't it defeats the point of this whole thing.  One of the things I hold in myself different to others in both poker and life is that in lots of situations I just 'tell the truth' about what I want/ have/ have done and others either exaggerate or fib/lie or leave out details.


I knew today was bad but hadn't realised how bad.
(sorry pat, I'll make sure I do 'look' to check next time)

This is todays graph.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 09:47:54 PM
how can u be down 10 bis if ur stop loss in 4/5?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 10:04:28 PM
Really simple, I didn't win a lot at showdown..

stats were a depressing

22.7 VPIP
19.3 PFR
8.2 3bt
31 WTSD%
16.7 W$SD%
2.85 Agg

Everything is relatively 'normal for me, maybe a tiny bit too many showdowns..

The sucky thing is I actually 'got there'.... A LOT... ..... already dead.  Ah.....

Here is a 'fair' example of the hands we did not win today:            (some are painful, but in game it seemed 'ok')

http://wt.ag/KUliGm - we shove because when I've seen people check minr its normally nutted but ckr small has often been  Kd Qd/  Ad Jd type hands.. I figured he would be forced to fold a decent % with these type hands as I have a blocker to a lot of the 'monster' draws.

http://wt.ag/KUlQMv - hand before I had AKo as well and raise/4bt it..... vs this villain I'm really sure he will have A8, 99-JJ sometimes,  Ad X, and other random 910 type hands enough that this should be fine - i think.

http://wt.ag/KUm9aj - fairly sure I leveled myself here... I check the flop to try and look like AA, KK, QQ and I was check shoving.  This villain has been rather tight vs me pre, but in this spot with the btn I don't expect him to be nutted - AND he has not seen me cold 4b once.  So I bet/ shove in order to look like the hands stated... obv he's just said "well I ckb flop so he's taking off..." which is such a shame that its true for a different reason. SUXXXXX.

http://wt.ag/KUmslf - complete misclick pre, i was trying to do something on another table that was slightly overlapping and i minraise pre... fml.  then was never folding that flop.  got there innit.

http://wt.ag/KUmFoJ - completely playing his range... I was 100% he had A8-AJ.. Shame I'm right about somethings sometimes..
MUST NOT TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE FOLD TP @ 25NL

http://wt.ag/KUmOIO - I had notes on this guy playing strangely in and out of position.. he'd flatted AQ/ AK IP but been hyper aggro OOP... therefore I weight his range to AK/AQ almost exclusively and didn't love the call but asked myself "if we think he has AQ/ AK all the time, why are we slowrolling him?"

Turns out, he has dem AA's and just decided to 'hope' I could call. sigh.

http://wt.ag/KUni1j - going for value... (not using the word thin because I don't think it is)...... guess he had an A.

http://wt.ag/KUnDRS - 71/19 over 20 hands and had played them badly... didn't figure I'd be behind here very often, if at all.





Sucks so much, really disappointed and sick part is i feel 'fine' I only finished because I lost a bunch of 'silly' hands in a row at the end then thought I'd check how bad it was and if we were near stop loss yet, turns out..... we were past it quite a bit.  I don't look @ HEM during a session now as advised by my skype group... but today that didn't help me stop where I guess I should have.

Other than this I don't know what to say except that I will be back soon... would be nice to stay a few nights next time.


Not sure what to do for the rest of the eve tbh.. just want to grind.

#sometimesthegamedoesntloveyou



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Junior Senior on June 20, 2012, 10:22:08 PM
Try walking before learning to run


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 10:35:40 PM
Try walking before learning to run

ouch... i stepped down with no problems, grinding my ass off when in UK and then once ive earned a step up, play solid.. then have a bad session playing decent stats and running into a bunch of meh/ horrible spots..

and I get this..

ouch.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: Junior Senior on June 20, 2012, 10:43:19 PM
Just think you may be leveling yourself and giving these 25nl guys a bit too much credit for moves they probably don't have.

Wasn't sniping


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:11:33 PM
Tonight is 10x worse than ur 'step forward' was good.

Not knowing you had lost twice than the
mount your allowed to which is already a lot not only shows a lack of respect (gotta be honest :D) but it shows a lack of discipline and shows that you were totally not in cOntrol. It's o e of he reasons I o my allow you to play 4 tables to keep control so losing 10 is just absolutely inexcusable and extremely frustrating/disappointing.

Fml at iPhone keyboard


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:13:57 PM
http://weaktight.com/4782950

Total spew. 3bet pre? Why? Stack off on flop vs
Very likely combo draw that dominates you or a set that you are basically dead to.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:16:11 PM
Shoul justified this and said that it's fine. It's. Of its delision he has cold called a 3bet the. For active on 568. If you had aa it would be a close spot/food ak is an a solute no brainer.

This is an absolute terrible stack off.

http://weaktight.com/4782970


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on June 20, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
Just think you may be leveling yourself and giving these 25nl guys a bit too much credit for moves they probably don't have.

Wasn't sniping


Yeah pretty sure u misunderstood the now senior Junior here! Heed his advice imo. Shit days happen mate, hopefully u'll look back and laugh about it one day :)

Also print the bit u wrote in large letters and stick it on the wall right behind where you play!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on June 20, 2012, 11:20:44 PM
Shoul justified this and said that it's fine. It's. Of its delision he has cold called a 3bet the. For active on 568. If you had aa it would be a close spot/food ak is an a solute no brainer.

This is an absolute terrible stack off.

http://weaktight.com/4782970

Probably re-post this in English to avoid confusion!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
Just before I continue of I'm getting levelled here and these are handed form the old
John then I called ur bluff...

http://weaktight.com/4782977

Absolutely terrible mate. Pre flop sizing is bad we're
Oop I'd suggest 4.50 or fold as we have aj and it's
25 and been 3bet before us.

Post flop is really bad and established months ago people don't want to fold and if they call this turn they aren't folding rIver.

Your justification is that you were reppIng aces? Really? Really?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:22:29 PM
When ur playing 4 tables maximum of should
Be very hard to
Misclick

http://weaktight.com/4782990


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 11:31:02 PM
Tonight is 10x worse than ur 'step forward' was good.

Not knowing you had lost twice than the
mount your allowed to which is already a lot not only shows a lack of respect (gotta be honest :D) but it shows a lack of discipline and shows that you were totally not in cOntrol. It's o e of he reasons I o my allow you to play 4 tables to keep control so losing 10 is just absolutely inexcusable and extremely frustrating/disappointing.

Fml at iPhone keyboard

Agree, think i should definitely look at hem to check after a 3rd stack-off, definitely at the 4th.  If I'm honest I guess I didn't let myself look because the 'news' of having to drop down would be so sh*tty to hear/ have..
Easy to see what happened now, afterwards.. sucks though because it will literally take 2.5x longer to get it back @ 10nl.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:36:08 PM
http://weaktight.com/4782990

You should never misclicked when you're playing 4 tables maximum. But ate everyone makes mistakes :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:37:19 PM
Shoul justified this and said that it's fine. It's. Of its delision he has cold called a 3bet the. For active on 568. If you had aa it would be a close spot/food ak is an a solute no brainer.

This is an absolute terrible stack off.

http://weaktight.com/4782970

Probably re-post this in English to avoid confusion!

Rofl just loaded up the iPad to help out here as keyboard is small on phone.. iPad is
In Spanish tho....


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 11:39:33 PM
When ur playing 4 tables maximum of should
Be very hard to
Misclick

http://weaktight.com/4782990

I was playing on 4, but had 6 open as I was table selecting using tablescan turbo.

Just before I continue of I'm getting levelled here and these are handed form the old
John then I called ur bluff...

http://weaktight.com/4782977

Absolutely terrible mate. Pre flop sizing is bad we're
Oop I'd suggest 4.50 or fold as we have aj and it's
25 and been 3bet before us.

Post flop is really bad and established months ago people don't want to fold and if they call this turn they aren't folding rIver.

Your justification is that you were reppIng aces? Really? Really?

Does it sound insane that I was trying something I've noticed some players do.... tiny reraise preflop (so often AA/ KK) and then cshove flop but planned to bomb, bomb turn and rivers that weren't horrid.  Irony is if i bet, shoved flop and turn he woulda folded.

Just think you may be leveling yourself and giving these 25nl guys a bit too much credit for moves they probably don't have.

Wasn't sniping


Yeah pretty sure u misunderstood the now senior Junior here! Heed his advice imo. Shit days happen mate, hopefully u'll look back and laugh about it one day :)

Also print the bit u wrote in large letters and stick it on the wall right behind where you play!

Definitely felt like a cheap shot when i first read it... so hard to read text how it was 'intended' sometimes.. esp if you don't know the person in question.

And yer Andy, having it there is definitely something i should do, but since i dont have a printer I'll increase the type size on the 'notes' i already have next to me while playing.
Which includes a note that says "don't bluff for stacks..."

Shoul justified this and said that it's fine. It's. Of its delision he has cold called a 3bet the. For active on 568. If you had aa it would be a close spot/food ak is an a solute no brainer.

This is an absolute terrible stack off.

http://weaktight.com/4782970

Would we play it differently if we had Ad?

Isn't it making life easy for people if we just bet/fold AK type hands on this kind of board???


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:41:35 PM
As you pointed out this Is atrocious.

http://weaktight.com/4782994

Remember to your comment a out winning twice
As slow frOm these stuff the. ASIC concepts havnt hit home yet so if it was another night like tonight then it would be losing it twice as slowly if anything.

Will try to do rest hands but bad battery


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:43:39 PM
http://weaktight.com/4783000

Meh I've flicked these in before as well. It's a fold though have to. E right so often and it's never 9s


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 20, 2012, 11:45:11 PM
http://weaktight.com/4783013

Prefer 4ish Otr to induce a lot of heros


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 20, 2012, 11:45:24 PM
As you pointed out this Is atrocious.

http://weaktight.com/4782994

Remember to your comment a out winning twice
As slow frOm these stuff the. ASIC concepts havnt hit home yet so if it was another night like tonight then it would be losing it twice as slowly if anything.

Will try to do rest hands but bad battery


Can we get Frankie to give Pat some engrish ressons...?  Andy you got Frankies number?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 21, 2012, 12:27:41 AM
:(


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on June 21, 2012, 12:32:40 AM
As you pointed out this Is atrocious.

http://weaktight.com/4782994

Remember to your comment a out winning twice
As slow frOm these stuff the. ASIC concepts havnt hit home yet so if it was another night like tonight then it would be losing it twice as slowly if anything.

Will try to do rest hands but bad battery


Can we get Frankie to give Pat some engrish ressons...?  Andy you got Frankies number?
It's quite easy to get when you figure out the typos are usually the key next to what he was intending to hit.  :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 22, 2012, 01:57:16 AM
Yer yer Jase... I know.

Had a pretty sigh session today, played solid all session (normal person solid).

had one 3bt, bt, bt shove... [ ] Went well.

That and lost QQ vs 97o last orbit to finish down a little.. Nvm.. Next day pls.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 22, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
As you pointed out this Is atrocious.

http://weaktight.com/4782994

Remember to your comment a out winning twice
As slow frOm these stuff the. ASIC concepts havnt hit home yet so if it was another night like tonight then it would be losing it twice as slowly if anything.

Will try to do rest hands but bad battery


Can we get Frankie to give Pat some engrish ressons...?  Andy you got Frankies number?

rofl my iphone tekkers are joke bad


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 23, 2012, 01:22:12 AM
Played a bunch today.. Had a rough session where I went up 2bi's in 200 hands, then down -4.5bi's.. Took over 600 hands to get it back to +$3...

:D :D :D

Feeling the faith! #Lovingthegame..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 23, 2012, 06:09:40 PM
Few good sessions in a row, nailed about 5k hands and won around $60, that with a $50 FDP and we're almost back to 25nl. 

Here i come... again.

:P


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 24, 2012, 06:28:14 PM
We're back! another decent session over 1600 hands and we are BACK!

25nl tomorrow.... lets stay a bit longer this time.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 25, 2012, 10:52:13 PM
Day 1 at 25nl.. Again.....

Won $67.31!

Awesome, just have to stay here... Oh and not run into AA all the time.

I ran into AA with Aspades Js, on 7s 8d 4c...  And won. :D

Get in!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 25, 2012, 11:17:43 PM
Just because we dO wins doesn't mean we should be happy. Can you post the aj hands? Won definitely great for morale though.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 25, 2012, 11:34:59 PM
Just because we dO wins doesn't mean we should be happy. Can you post the aj hands? Won definitely great for morale though.

1. yer, its horrible tbh..
http://wt.ag/LwZ6H2

I think it was one of those where it was a guy with a 3bt of something like 18% in bb... I can't remember which but I thought he was fos because of the mega fish in the pot behind me. 
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2. However this was a strange spot-
http://wt.ag/LwZtBn

I didn't expect this and this board doesn't make a lot of sense for sets/ better hands than mine..
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3. I like this though..
http://wt.ag/LwZKEz

It's definitely thin.. but its bvb and he's 34/26/8  (12% 3bt from BB)... - he will have dominated hands some % of the time and he can't have many bigger queens as he'd 3bt most if not all with that high a 3bt stat.  I think the river is the perfect 'im bluffing' card when I would NEVER bluff here but I'm sure they think I will. :D :D
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4. And for once someone called a 3bt light and couldn't click the fold button... this is the first time I've seen someone peel AJ pre and call me down in this spot.  MOARR PLS!
http://wt.ag/Lx0lWT


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on June 25, 2012, 11:39:27 PM
Just because we dO wins doesn't mean we should be happy. Can you post the aj hands? Won definitely great for morale though.
And we can flip this over and say just because we do loses we should be sad right?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 27, 2012, 12:20:56 AM
Had a messy day today, this was our graph..

We ran bad for about 3bi's but still managed a winning session, more pls!

No blowups yet and on our way to beating 25nl, keep going like this and 50nl in a few weeks!



Got Tallinn this weekend for a Stag Do, that's no longer officially a stag-do as she's left him... But f*ck it, we're off for a lads holiday anyways!
Don't worry Charlene, it will be fine... i'll just be very hung over on Monday when I wake up. :D :D



Here are some of the biggest hands..
http://wt.ag/MnQT7q - this guy was 50/50 over a small sample so figured he's going to call too much pre and may even shove too much.. therefore 4bt = good, normally im probably flatting here.

http://wt.ag/MnYGSD - dont even like river call...

http://wt.ag/MnYLph - this will seem crazy at these limits but this guy is mental and super ool bvb - fistpumping till river....

http://wt.ag/MnYP8D - tytyty :D

http://wt.ag/MnYTFo - this used to be me! lol thanks mate.

http://wt.ag/MnYVx3 - really hard to explain but in game I was SURE I was good.... apparently i was right.


Worst one...
http://wt.ag/MnZ8Ap - Urtyba takes so long to fold it was so torturous.... obv he gets insta-service... this one was a little annoying.  Right as i hit the 720 hands or so.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 27, 2012, 04:29:53 AM
hand 1 - bet turn, why are we shoving river? never getting called by worse

hand 2 - yup, never bluffing. bet/fold river especially when we bet so big.

hand 3 - meh, can see an argument for it, no expert on this sorta thing.

hand 4 - why on earth are we checking back the turn on this texture? so so many bad rivers. Can get him to spaz out with so much worse/draws

hand 5 - wp, nh

hand 6 - yeaaaaaaa, i dont really like it. flat flop eval later streets imo.

hand 7 - fold pre, ul.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 28, 2012, 05:00:11 AM
This is my longest ever session, just finished now.. bit mental but was a lot of fun and pretty tough on the morale at times....

Spent most of it in the -ve but to be honest I made a LOT of mistakes...

I also didn't run lovely
- lost 4 flips I remember aipf
- ran JJ, JJ and QQ into AA pre...
- made a flush vs a straight and he just call called... (was a whale)
Ran AK into AA 150bb's deep (mistake!)

But I managed to keep morale and make some nice value bets that the other regs at this level are just not making... it does mean i own myself a little but I'm getting a LOT better at working out 'when to do them'.

Other than this will have a look at the session and soon I will do a database analysis in order to review my play and how it has changed so dramatically in the last couple of months.

All in all, happy with a small win (cracked a $50 bonus to make the session just +ve)

these are the tough sessions imo.




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 28, 2012, 05:21:57 AM
If you mAke a lot of mistakes should 100pc move to 4 tables or preferablynl10 until you playing good again. Pokers here tomorrow bro


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on June 28, 2012, 12:13:34 PM
By mistakes I dont mean glaring massive obvious ones.. I mean I 'possibly' should know better.. Like the AK I i told you about.
(Where I flat btn vs a 19% bb 3btor and call call call u til I make tp, but he made a flush on river. He had A9, so I feel like I had the right idea that I had him dominated to 3 outs, shame is he hit one..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 28, 2012, 03:00:08 PM
1 table imo, hard to make mistakes 1 tabling ;)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on June 28, 2012, 07:27:59 PM
1 table imo, hard to make mistakes 1 tabling ;)

I'm sure he'll find a way ;)

JK JB, great to see you back at 25NL hope you go on a heater and never return to 10nl!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on June 28, 2012, 09:03:07 PM
1 table imo, hard to make mistakes 1 tabling ;)

predicted stats: 75/62/3b:24


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 28, 2012, 09:48:48 PM
Hello John  :hello:

for someone like yourself who is incredibly enthusiastic and ambitious (two of your strongesst attributes for sure) I know it's completely natural  to wanna race up, so when you got back to 25nl you really wanna just push forward and start heatering, it's fine, you wanna be able to go back to pleno and show him a graph where you've won $1k in the last 1400 hands an to post the graph on here. This is why you've done stuff like the AK flop re-jam because you've picked up a premium hand thought "yes this is it, time for me to start winning again!" then get tilted when the hand hasn't worked out so tried to force it - this is so stnd I still do it as well in spots but it's 100% an issue of focus and concentration and tbh honest I think this is defo an area you need to improve on before you're going to go above 25NL.

When I get back from Vegas we'll do a few sweats if you like, but in the meantime really focus your efforts onto the mental approach, we're not racing here, the goal isn't to post sick graphs and big wins, the object we're shooting for is to make optimal decisions at every point -  you're going to lose some days you should win, you're going to lose some pots you feel you should win, the test in these spots is to be able to keep the discipline/focus up to let these days/hands go and move on with a strong mentality. This is pretty hard and experience is the only way to develop it.

Pleno DOESN'T wanna see a 1600 hand graph where you win 43 buyins (although there are situations he'd like it ofc!) he wants to to show him 23 big hands where you play each one well, regardless of whether you've won $676 or lost $378. If you'd have won a few of those hands you played a your intial 25NL return it would have been bad for you.

Lets combine your natural poker ability and enthusiasm with a little bit of composure and then we'll be seeing some 23,000 hand 5bb/100 200nl graphs in no time!

gogogogogogo

Also defo listen to Pleno - just because you CAN play 25nl, doesn't mean you have too, one of my best poker friends is a huge online PLO winner, plays everything up to 100/200 and 200/400 but he often playes $2/$4 and $5/$5 on days where he felt like he didn't play too good the previous day or has had a few losing sessions, this amount of discipline is the reason why he has more money than god. If you're feeling shaky or a little off or anything just play 10nl there is nothing wrong with that.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on June 28, 2012, 10:10:53 PM
an example of this is im going to stars to play 5/5 and 2 Zoom and taking shots in "bigger" games depending what runs.

For the first few days I plan to do nothing but play 100nl zoom even though ive had a few good months and just want to get grinding on the site and understand zoom dynamics a little.

great post dave too.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on June 29, 2012, 02:57:59 AM
great post dave too.

+1


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 03, 2012, 11:13:56 AM
John jsut did a really nice piece of analysis that I asked him to do. Very nice mate <3


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 03, 2012, 03:47:09 PM
Welcome to post it mate... I'm proud too and obv glad its what you wanted...


It was an equity analysis and surprisingly I have more equity in almost every situation than I previously though... which is nice.  However I still can't be certain about peoples ranges and I didn't even include one bluff combo, which means I have EVEN more equity if they ever bluff.

Had a few decent sessions @ 25nl and we've settled in nicely.  Should've won in both my sessions yesterday but i made a bad 'reshove' close to the end for a monster pot.

http://wt.ag/LOCWdq

This is an example of a horrible in game decision.  I took a couple of seconds to consider:
- does he only have JJ, XXss or QQ/KK here?
- could it be a small raise to show massive strength because its multi-way and it will slow me down..?
- Can he ever have AJ here?
- how bad are we if he only has flushes?

Then i shoved anyways....

Silly john.

Range wise I think its just a
fold > call cf non spade turn > go have a cup of tea + shit > eat nails > reshove

But then I had a break shortly after that and played another session and won the lot! 35bb/100 :D :D :D


But we're climbing up and doing well @ 25nl now.  The equity exercise for pat took a lot longer than I thought because working out exact hands in a range changes so much when you know you have a key card, or its on the flop.  Other than that, feeling good and confirmed official online grinder!

Few more weeks and we might even be a winnar... on this site.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 03, 2012, 04:32:36 PM
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9tZ0KRbKsODSY1okMUpxIOMyCjPtI7zkhXLc28h06ECc3k4S9pvvJJx5a)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 07, 2012, 12:18:07 AM
Not played much last couple of days, nothing special - might blog about it might not.

Going to kick off a session now, so glad that Murray made it through to the final!  I watched the Fed and the Murray matches after work so i was about 4 hours behind the rest of the world in finding out but meh, i gots my big screen and loved every second!

Might be going to The Vic to play some cash on sunday since I've gotta go back down to Southampton for a work course next Mon - wed.

Could be sweet, last time i was at the vic the game was incred soft and that was like 50k hands and a LOT of spew ago.

Played a little @ Aspers, Northampton last night where I took my brother for his first ever live tournament in a casino (he's played some pub games before) but we both bust out rather early.. I decided to jam  Ad Qd when an older strange looking guy limp raised HJ.. I was like "meh, fuck it, he can have pairs and I got a blocker!"

Obv he had  Aspades Kc and we made top pair but did not win. :D :D

Then we played some cash and had some fun with the regular recreational players.. lost about £60 but played super fine and lost  9s 4s vs  Jc 8d
on  Qs 4h 8s... sigh.

Other than that, we got floated for £20 pre and then bet when we checked on Qxx by Ks 4c... wp sir.  (we had  Ad Kd obv)


Other than that, off for a session... need to sat into the GPS Stoke and the DTD events coming up. glme


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 07, 2012, 12:58:09 AM
i have 3210293892 hands marked. holla when we both online


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 07, 2012, 03:19:57 AM
Played really solid over a 3 hour session and managed to win some money. :D


Ran a little bad in some smallish pots, one massive one (3way all in my  Kd Kh vs  Qh Ts vs  Td 8d  on  Qd 4d 6h or something..) but won a couple of big flips aipf so apparently that makes the world fair.

Other than that caught a bluff or two which was nice, obviously paying attention enough.  Even trying to put some reg's i have a few hundred hands on now in some strange spots.  Seemed ok and worked, best one was when I cooler someone on K42r set over set.. and when this reg donk/ raises i know he has a set... so i kept min clicking until he just blew and shoved the lot in... snap and tyty no 1 outer!

won a respectable 14.76bb/100 which I'm happy with, only thing is that my red line got a little girly toward the end where I was just cbet/folding a LOT.... but on different tables, different boards vs diff opponents so i dont think there is anything wrong with it, just frustrating to have ALL of them not work for a few hundred hands.  But as we know, when they raise turn they just got it... whatever it is. (unless we catch a bluff and they get there on the river... sucked!)


Night all and good luck to everyone i know in Vegas who are between them winning a little piece of the world! :P



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 07, 2012, 09:46:18 PM
Got a lot of tables on the go, but crushing..... cmon!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 07, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
experimented with 12 tables and had some good times... booked a nice 1bi win, shoulda won 2. meh....

didn't do anything silly and focussed! found that I like the Ibiza mix's on youtube and they always lead to more hour long mix's.


:D :D


got some hands in and happy with some solid play, nothing too fancy, caught a bluff or two and folded to some strange lines ...... dont like folding.

Going out with my bro now for some tunage and drinks... gl us! He's a little monster!



Last weekend in Tallinn, he got so drunk on the first night that he was kicked out of the club within an hour and I was found to come to his rescue.  When I went outside to sort him out and bring him in the bouncers were really nice and said "sorry, but he is TOO drunk tonight..." so I had to take him back.  But before I did I wanted to just put him in a taxi and send him home.  So I asked him for his room key to the hotel and he gave me a condom....


 ;stickaforkinme;  ;booboo;  :blonde:   ;boltpp;

So i ask him again... "No Alex, that's a condom.... where is your room key please?"

And he gives me another condom - well at least he's prepared!

 ;gobsmacked; ;frustrated; :redcard: ;hattip; rotflmfao


And by this point the whole queue are watching and laughing their asses off and I'm like "no seriously Alex, where is your room key? you can't go home without it..."

He gives me....


wait for it


.....

seriously, wait....

errr


ANOTHER CONDOM..... wp genius!

 ;technophobe; ;fishing; :respect: ;applause; :)up ;whistle; ;tightend; ;busted;



So after routing through his pockets I find it and then TAKE him home and throw him into his room, then go back to the club.



So gl me tonight going out with him again.... lolz, he has a hickey on his neck due to some tart this week.... wp sir. super classy.



O to be young sometimes.... :D :D :D


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 09, 2012, 11:48:39 PM
So we played a session live @ the vic on sunday after driving down in time to be there before the Murray vs Fed match.

I'm a big fan and wasn't bothered which way it went as they both achieve something insane either way, guess i woulda loved the hero-story of Murray winning vs Fed but also I don't know how many years @ the top Fed has left so i figure its probably better he takes this one.

The session @ the vic did not end up with us winning some money, but instead we played probably the best session of cash decisions wise EVER >>> so proud.

The following hands did not go in our favor:-

A2o BTN vs A4o BB on AA6Q

83 BB vs UTG limp passive fish 99 on 835 X

 Kd Qd vs  4d 6d on  Jd Jh 2c 3d

99 vs AK aiotf 663r  (he 3bt pre OOP, check raise/ call flop)



Nevermind... next time I guess.  I only had one spot where I didn't barrell but wanted to.  I had already done so in a similar sized pot vs same villain an orbit or so earlier with AK on 98xr, ckback 6 and bomb  Ahrt river.

Then I had  Ts 6s BTN vs his MP limp call pre (again) and this time he cc, cc, c  7h 2h 2s 7s Ahrt  and I pussied out the river bet.. He tables  4c 4d for a win. wp.


Other than that, first day in Southampton was good, course going well and know/ understand most of it, some is refreshing stuff and new regulations etc.  Got some homework, so off to do that first.  But have a sweet hotel room and after some complaining since I'd agreed internet with them, they went out and bought me a usb wireless dongle to use while I'm here... (brought the uber PC and one monitor and they've upgraded their wired connections to wireless only... sucksss)


So all good in the hood, got breakfast in bed ordered already (tried today for first time and its AMAZING!) so we're good to go. 


Homework then a short session me thinks.

:)

peace


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 10, 2012, 02:00:35 AM
Well that sucks...

Got my work done and chuffed, then had TL900 come online and say 'mikogo meeee' so we did and i insta smash stop loss in like 200 hands.

Meh.. feel like i played fine, will check later and post hands in group but i feel like I played great... just didn't win much.

Had QQ vs AA aipf vs 87/20 over 20 hands, obv doesn't mean much but we've agreed a get in range of QQ+/ AK from UTG and 10+/AK/ sometimes AQ from later positions and I shouldn't be too far off.  I would obv adjust range if someone is 20/11/2 and playing 8 tables etc.


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http://weaktight.com/4833384
Other than that, this hand felt kinda puke in game and now I actually like it more.  Especially after the equity analysis, its just so hard for him to have a value hand that we dont crush except exactly 66/67 and 67 is now pretty tough.


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http://wt.ag/OSUg6h
pretty standard last orbit hand... meh.


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http://wt.ag/OSUs5l
This is the hand for debate imo.  We're hu and have been for a few hands, I said to Tom that I wouldn't stay long:
[1:13:18 AM] John Black: BOMBBBBS
[1:13:51 AM] John Black: tempted to cshove river
(discussing hand on other table)
[1:13:58 AM] John Black: but he doesnt bet A10o enough
[1:14:03 AM] John Black: no one does @ these stakes
[1:14:06 AM] John Black: xept me vs regs
(vs right regs i vbet pretty thin once ive seen them turn up with dominated hands enough and stop doing so if shown its bad)
[1:14:17 AM] John Black: 3 could bge fun                                                                         
(this is our bingo table, he's been aggro so far want to see if he is too aggro when hu.... common mistake ive seen @ this level)
[1:14:20 AM] John Black: wont stay long
(just flopped  Ad Ks 8h)
[1:14:50 AM] John Black: hu h'es getting the barrells
(he raises my cbet, doesn't have many/ any value hands he hasn't reraised pre - dont expect him to raise A5-A10 here btw, plan is to checkshove turn get him to spazz call Kx/ random pairs 22-1010)
[1:15:46 AM] John Black: sick river
(post hand analysis, think I summed it up accurately and concisely)
[1:15:49 AM] John Black: bet to induce
[1:16:39 AM] John Black: hmmm doesnt like overbets
(next hand he cc cc cf 5673xr... seems bad)
[1:16:40 AM] John Black: could be fun


Left shortly after, couple of hands... as mentioned above I bet the river to induce raises and already had my mouse over the call button.  I knew that K10/ QJ were possible but vs this opponent who's shown that he can be aggressive full 6 max i expect him to read my river bet as weak @ best.  I guess in retrospect i might like $7/fold more.. but I think he may still bluff shove enough to make that a good call.  I have folded to most of his 3bt's before and he's won a few hands on the bounce vs me.  Maybe I'm expecting too much of him, really not sure.  Just PTR'd him and found this...

http://www.pokertableratings.com/party-player-search/mollyc0ddle

If you can't see it, its a graph of -$7k over 115k hands and a consistently downward one... I don't think this was a bad bet call with this additional information as he's clearly making fundamental mistakes consistently.  However I did just note on his hand analysis he's on the tighter more passive side, but this is going to be mostly 6max which neither matched what I saw over the 150 hands with me, nor takes into consideration HU and changes there.

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Other than that we lost this kinda insteresting/ kinda boring as f**k hand...
http://wt.ag/OSYVF7

Turns out he's also -$7k so I'll be keeping an eye out...  but he spread it about a bit... although he's a confirmed £1/2 winnar! gg sir.


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Small pat on back, think this is solid play and don't think I can play this any better when multi way to flop and turn... nice bluff sir, wp.
http://wt.ag/OSZfUy


off to bed now, good night all, best of luck to everyone i know in the ME 2012 and my 2% whatever Kourosh Radfar is doing with it! :D

Would love to see David Nicholson (lil'Dave on here) spin up his 30bb's on day 2 as he's been an absolutely amazing influence in my poker life in the last 6 months and I owe him a chunk.  I've heard his series hasn't been the best so I would love him to find a little green irish dude on his travels and dispossess him of his pot of gold!  I do hope he doesn't meet said fella in Rhino tho, as that might involve in over-excitement and likely finger loss or just death instead of a Virgin Atlantic first class ticket.

Best of luck mate. :)

really going to bed now, horrible to see C lying in bed sleeping and looking like an 'angel' (insert other nice, sleepy girl appropriate words here)


got breakfast being delivered @ 730 to look forward to.... BOOOOOM!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 10, 2012, 10:38:08 AM
experimented with 12 tables

what?

you were making misclicks and mistakes 4 tabling so why have you increased the amount of tables by 300%?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 10, 2012, 10:46:34 AM
http://weaktight.com/4833392

is a really bad stack off. when turn goes c/check and he shoves river its complete spew to call and you're never ever good.

also at small stakes

1) dont play hu, the rake is too big
2) 3betting a4s oop is going to be bad because they will defend too many aces because they don't understand game theory yet and they just think "oh im on the button a8 has to be ahead of his range" etc. Which is why we 3bet broadway cards so we can play vs a dominated range.

what do you mean tempted to c/shove river, why are you thinking like this. if you are playing HU its because he is  HUGE HUGE HUGE fish so why do you want to start getting fancy and turning top pair into a bluff?

http://weaktight.com/4833416

is really close, probably fold river vs his sizing, but why are you jamming? you basically just spewed 13bbs when he's never got a worse ace with the sizing.

http://weaktight.com/4833417 - no not pat on back :D

bigger on the flop, why so small? they aren't going to fold if they have something.
turn is a clear value bet, missing out so much value, why ever check back here we basically have the nuts.

what was the first thing I basically ever told you? if you have top pair at cheeseburger stakes keep betting until they raise and then fold.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on July 10, 2012, 11:39:19 AM

 if you have top pair at cheeseburger stakes keep betting until they raise and then fold.


I think I need to print this out and stick it on the side of the screen


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 10, 2012, 01:17:46 PM
I think the 12 tables was because I was game selecting and had them all come up at once... and with me not skyping or facebooking and so on I thought I'd 'try' it for a few minutes.  Just meant I played a very robotic 18/13/6 game and tried to reinforce the comment above..


 if you have top pair at cheeseburger stakes keep betting until they raise and then fold.


I think I need to print this out and stick it on the side of the screen

This is so true but every now and then i find a spazzy guy doing something strange... 

My normal is playing 4 or 6 tables mate, like last night for example on 4 tables and waitlisted for 3 so i can game select better.

But TL900 will testify I said "oh we lost a couple of bi's in a row, think we might be @ stoploss soon"  Then had the  Aspades 4s hand where I see your point but I'm not sure if he doesn't bluff here ever with the game flow and way he'd played over the small 150 hand sample.  I don't play hu after what you said previously about rake and fishness etc.  This is the first time in a while since I've played more than a few hands hu, normally its because its when someone's just left and before I've clicked the 'sit out' button.


http://weaktight.com/4833416

is really close, probably fold river vs his sizing, but why are you jamming? you basically just spewed 13bbs when he's never got a worse ace with the sizing.
If he has checked AJ/A10/ Ax here otf then i can definitely see him betting twice, I have NEVER seen someone take this line with AK.

got to get back... im on my phone mett..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 10, 2012, 02:14:14 PM
sizing is indicative of a polarized range.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 10, 2012, 05:26:34 PM
sizing is indicative of a polarized range.

What range do you think the average cheeseburger stakes guy thinks is nutty to be in his value polarised hands?

AA/ AK/ AQ/ 88/ A8/ 89?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 10, 2012, 05:42:17 PM
sizing is indicative of a polarized range.

What range do you think the average cheeseburger stakes guy thinks is nutty to be in his value polarised hands?

AA/ AK/ AQ/ 88/ A8/ 89?

yeh looks good.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 10, 2012, 06:27:13 PM
fair enough, spot looks gross if you think that's his only value range.  In game I definitely thought it would be much wider... when he checked flop and pot, potted I definitely thought his range was more bluff/ 8 heavy... as I just expect him to bet, bet, shove or bet, shove Ax's.

the QQ vs AA aipf is obv 50c but what do you think of the other QQ hand?

Guy raises cbet IP on J67cc, turn is 7 and he 3/4 pot's it... just so hard for him to have value except for 66 and folding to one combo when he must have Jxcc a decent % would be a mistake if i understand my equity properly??



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 10, 2012, 11:11:42 PM
Just bust some funnily fast bowl comp for £25 and had an avg of 12bb's throughout.  Really forgot what these are like, the strategy and players made me lol so hard it kept me awake.  So hard to imagine I was one of the absolute worst of these players for so long...

Managed to lose 99 vs AK aipf and the river provided, then spun up with AJ vs A2.. But unfortunately ran AQ into KK bb v btn..


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 12, 2012, 09:33:08 PM
I had written this yesterday but tried to submit @ 0015am but forgot about the server shutdown. Then today my PC restarted itself for updates, yay!  ;yellowcard;

I had a rough live session @ Grosvenor Porstmouth, even though I feel I played as good as I can for 95% of it.

Unfortunately I had the following hands where we did not do a win:-

- Ahrt Kd vs  6c 8s on 972r

- Ac 8h BB vs  Jc 8d on  8c 8s 5h 7c   - we did a chop though....

Big one for all our discs
£1/1 sat 200 deep, been winning the entire time... recently lost a couple of small pots, nothing special.  Now down to £160
Chinese aggro Reg-fish comes to the table and sits with a full stack, then proceeds to barrell his first hand..  Ad Jh 3s 8c Ac... with  Ks 8h check calling down and winning.

an orbit or so later he limps UTG and it gets anotherr  couple of limps from late position, small blind checks his option and we find dem  Kh Kc's..  I have to 'squeeze', make it £11 and because I've had large raise sizes the whole time this doesn't look too big to anyone.  Chinese guy then makes it 40 and I'm 100% he hasn't got AA here from live reads... I'm sure he's paired or Ax, which is perfect when we got dem KK's because we don't have blockers and I weight him mostly with AJ-AK.  As such I don't think I'm ever going to get him to stack off light preflop, in my experience he will just fold to further preflop aggression without an aggressive dynamic with me.

I decide to flat and check call down a good looking board, figuring he will never think I have QQ+/AK when i flat OOP.

FLOP  (POT £85)
 Jc 8s 2s

Pretty good flop I'm thinking.. If he somehow has a pair he won't hate the J, he could often have one himself and he's almost certainly not folding or slowing down if he does have one.  Luckily for me I don't have the  Ks which also expands his range even more if he ever slows down on scary turns (he can easily bomb Xs turns more often).

I check and he slides out a bet of 55, I take my time and errr, ummm.... slide out a call doing my best "I'm not doing anything wrong, avoiding eye contact let me hit my 'hand' face" (with the full intention of not folding any turn card, only thinking about it on a J or A).

TURN  (POT £195)
 5s  or similar, its a small spade anyhow.

I take some time and make it look like i might bet then check (trying to induce the 'fu shove') and he snap shoves.  I've called before he even gets his in and he says "oh, you've got a flush?"  I'm like, no mate... what do you have...

RIVER (POT £400ish i think, I covered and had 35 left)
 3d  or similar brick

And he tables the mighty  Jd Js with an "of course I've got JJ face...."


I flash my KK and sigh for a second as I shrug it off and watch Alex at the other end (the only reg - seemed solid) almost puke into his own mouth.


Meh.. feel like I played great... Managed to get my last £35 in on Qx77xr with AJo vs 77 vs mystery hand that reshipped river into the quads - wp sir.


Looking forward to having a roll for live if this is how I play now, I really dominated the table, making Alex avoid me left right and centre and I don't remember making any cbets or barrelling at all in bad spots.
Happy Days, winning is for those pussies who play well and lady luck likes.... the really good guys play sick and still lose! :D



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 13, 2012, 12:17:03 AM
Sucks that i did a sweat session with Grant today and neither of us could find a win..

Ran QQ in to JJ and won pre, then next hand QQ into AA for a loss... sigh @ getting excited.

Then some consistent 2nd best hand syndrome, but didn't make too many mistakes.

Did make one mistake with top2 on turn vs nut straight which sucked, unfortunately we were having a decent discussion on chat at the time and i didn't pay 100% attention.


tomorrow then.. :D

will get there eventually.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 14, 2012, 05:33:24 PM
Just had the most horrible session of 25nl, smashed stop loss and we're back to 10nl.

So for the rest of the day I'll be mostly playing Diablo3, since I can win @ that game.


I'll post some hands here for the 'fun'....

- http://wt.ag/LQXZmb
Flop and turn are for value.. but this guy is a reg and i know on this river he cannot have many value hands that can withstand a raise, he will be folding 9x for sure.
Shame he has only one of four or five hands that can call.  (i know its not great though)

- http://wt.ag/NoO5DI
genuinely not sure about this, as its vs a 45/35 over 150 hands so I think that should make it ok... got to be close though, and since in the equity exercise I always had more equity than I thought, if i think its close but good then it could be 10-20%+ve good...

- http://wt.ag/LQYpc1
literally last hand of session and I'm sat there going 'this could be fun, can we lose this one as well'.  I check back turn to rep weak sdv/ draw hand and most miss that river.  I fully expect this guy to bluff/ vbet this river 100%, shame it went like this.

- http://wt.ag/NoOmqh
This is so gross, I'm not kidding when I saw i think ive had ilke 5 of these where I have either top two or top and third pair.. on drawy A high boards, and EVERY single time 'they' have had 'it' instead of one of the 20 or so value hands/ semi-bluff hands we beat.... has to be a variance issue......???

- http://wt.ag/NoOtCj
I know i'll get flamed for this but this villain 'thisisnotmeth' was playing super aggro... I don't know if he was experimenting or it was sample size but I've just PTR'd him and I'm super suprised to see he is 'tight aggro' because over a coupla hundred hands with me and a few tables, he was not.  With that info this may be terrible but from the hands I saw i was happy with 88 aipf.

- http://wt.ag/NoOPc4
its rare for a cold 4bt spot to come up but in my limited experience they are almost never going to get in JJ/QQ if i reraise pre.  obv standard 50c hand.

- http://wt.ag/NoP1I7
I dont do this kinda thing anywhere near as much as i used to.. but with As in my hand he cant have cc the nut draw.. so I thought this was a good spot to make him fold any one pair hand.  This guy is kinda reggy and i didnt expect him to have any fd no pair here...

- http://wt.ag/LQZfWl
joke... utter and simply... he hit his out and still couldnt get the monies in, wp sir. (i did put something else here but in the interest of trying to be a nice guy i changed it)

- http://wt.ag/NoPhqx
this guy has shoved Qx and K7o vs me pre therefore KQ is a mandatory get in.

- http://wt.ag/LQZwIX
IT does happen apparently.... This is literally the first time in weeks i remember this happening.  WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE?

- http://wt.ag/NoPk5Q
he made top pair again..... ul.

- http://wt.ag/NoPytH
this sucks that this is how i have to win.. i hated it at the time was folding any river bet..



All in all, not a great session, didn't do much winning so i need to work on my showdown techniques.  I realise that maybe $50-70 could be argued as unnecessary/ horrible.  Back to 10nl then.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 14, 2012, 05:44:44 PM
havn't looked yet, red will = bad/spew, normal = fine/std

http://weaktight.com/4845260

complete and utter spew, just burning money, better hands than 1010 wont fold.

http://weaktight.com/4845264

wte, fine

http://weaktight.com/4845270

turn is really really really bad, we have kings, bet for value. as we have told you a million times, when you have a value hand keep betting, when they raise, fold. simples. just 4b pre flop

http://weaktight.com/4845273

seems fine

http://weaktight.com/4845279

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?! just burned 25$


http://weaktight.com/4845289

JUST DONT FUCKING DO THIS!!!!!!!! ITS COMPLETE SPEW, AGAIN.. RAISE WHEN YOU HAVE GOOD HANDS, YOU HAVE THE NUTS HERE, RAISE!


http://weaktight.com/4845292

dont like it if you want him to fold underpairs then do it on the flop, he isn't folding 10x on the turn/river.

http://weaktight.com/4845300

turn is a fold

http://weaktight.com/4845304

huh wtf, you have kq?

http://weaktight.com/4845312

bigger on river in long termur losing alot of value out of qx, it is NEVER folding and its the main part of the range we're targetting.

http://weaktight.com/4845307

HALLELUJAH, perfect. exactly what i want to see.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on July 14, 2012, 05:58:32 PM
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc416/cambridgealex/turningbackdoorouts.gif)

Always love JB HHs that proceed with disclaimers such as "I never usually do this but." or "I know I'll get flamed for this but".


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on July 14, 2012, 06:04:42 PM
Did you use the Jiminy Cricket gif as a deliberate reference Alex?

"when you meet temptation and the urge is very strong
Give a little whistle"




Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 14, 2012, 08:12:42 PM
havn't looked yet, red will = bad/spew, normal = fine/std

http://weaktight.com/4845260

complete and utter spew, just burning money, better hands than 1010 wont fold.
can you not even see my point? he will be folding EVERYTHING here as a reg... snap folding AA and sigh folding 9x

http://weaktight.com/4845264

wte, fine

http://weaktight.com/4845270

turn is really really really bad, we have kings, bet for value. as we have told you a million times, when you have a value hand keep betting, when they raise, fold. simples. just 4b pre flop
Need to let him bluff it off some % of the time.. he will stack off with Qx just as easily on the river.. but we lost ALL of his bluffs if we shove turn.

http://weaktight.com/4845273

seems fine

http://weaktight.com/4845279

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?! just burned 25$
I told you the guy was super active over multiple tables over a 150/200 hand sample.. and I'd seem him be super aggressive with AJ/AQ and AK.. therefore 88 will never be monstrously bad, and with the shorties extra $15 we're now payed so much to get it in vs his range.

http://weaktight.com/4845289

JUST DONT FUCKING DO THIS!!!!!!!! ITS COMPLETE SPEW, AGAIN.. RAISE WHEN YOU HAVE GOOD HANDS, YOU HAVE THE NUTS HERE, RAISE!

The guy had a 3% 3bt but he will be FOLDING a lot to a cold 4bt.  He's just not going to get in 100bb pre here with JJ to a cold 4bt from me playing 11/10/3.  Either way, loosing KK to AA can't be considered a bad play, esp with this board. - unless im missing something?

http://weaktight.com/4845292

dont like it if you want him to fold underpairs then do it on the flop, he isn't folding 10x on the turn/river.
I don't think you're being fair about his range...  He just can't have anything that can call this anywhere near enough.  I'm sticking behind this as a solid and effective bluff vs a range that consists of 10x AT BEST some % of the time, but rarely better.  I didn't think a reg would cc fd on the turn, turns out im wrong. either way when I've got the  Aspades he can't even be good all the time.

http://weaktight.com/4845300

turn is a fold
Agree

http://weaktight.com/4845304

huh wtf, you have kq?
Did you not read my reasoning.. the guys a bad shortstacker, jamming any Q and any K, we have both.. its a manditory call.

http://weaktight.com/4845312

bigger on river in long term ur losing alot of value out of qx, it is NEVER folding and its the main part of the range we're targetting.
This is the first time in a LONG LONG LONG time I've seen someone cc down with one pair.. I need to bet less on the river to widen his calling range.

http://weaktight.com/4845307

HALLELUJAH, perfect. exactly what i want to see.
I can only play perfectly vs an opponent when I know how they react to decisions.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 14, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
no, you can play perfectly vs an opponent IN A VACUUM, which is the whole point, Making constant good decisions.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 14, 2012, 08:43:58 PM
example of bet bet bet when you have a good hand. it doesnt matter what the hell his calling range is

Dealt to pads1161 [5d 5c]
dhilton12: folds
janboman: folds
woyakko: folds
pads1161: raises 80 to 120
Sambe8: calls 120
viebu: folds
TurnRiva: folds
teckidtq: folds
frankyhh_hh: folds
*** FLOP *** [3c 6s 7h]
pads1161: bets 200
Sambe8: calls 200
*** TURN *** [3c 6s 7h] [4h]
pads1161: bets 560
Sambe8: raises 2173 to 2733 and is all-in
pads1161: calls 2173
*** RIVER *** [3c 6s 7h 4h] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pads1161: shows [5d 5c] (a straight, Three to Seven)
Sambe8: shows [Qs Kh] (high card King)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 14, 2012, 10:30:15 PM
I'm trying really hard mate...

All i can say is - show me.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: david3103 on July 14, 2012, 10:34:08 PM


Tbf turning second nut straight makes it a lot easier to bet bet bet


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 14, 2012, 10:39:30 PM
I'm trying really hard mate...

All i can say is - show me.

not spewing isn't something that can be coached, its like you're a ticking time bomb, how can i teach you to bet when you have top pair or an overpair? how can i teach you to fold 88 when 2 guys have gone all in?

its really a psychological issue and its as if you chase your losses really badly.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 15, 2012, 03:32:28 AM
I'm trying really hard mate...

All i can say is - show me.

not spewing isn't something that can be coached, its like you're a ticking time bomb, how can i teach you to bet when you have top pair or an overpair? how can i teach you to fold 88 when 2 guys have gone all in?

its really a psychological issue and its as if you chase your losses really badly.
no no no

i really disagree...

I'm not punting... I'm not saying "oh i can win this one"

Seriously.  I'm saying "i think im ahead of his range here because of x, y or z.  As such, i can do e, f, or g in this situation.

I'm not stacking off with 88 pre because "i feel like it".. I'm stacking off with 88 pre vs a reg on the button who's been super aggro and i expect his 3bt/5btshove here with the super fish in the pot to be AJ+ A LOT... therefore 88 works.

Yes there will be X% when i get it in vs his JJ+ range, but the sheer quantity of AJ+ makes it profitable.. esp with the extra money from the shortstack.

I don't know if you're missing this, ignoring it, or looking past it as some random excuse.  But that's not how i see it at least.  After all, I've CALLED all in pre flop vs 2 opponents in this hand. 


Other than that, the - raise, bet, bet, bet = get called by worse situation has happened so infrequently at my stakes I just don't believe its a stable line i can use.




I'm obviously a lot improved from a couple of months ago, and i continue to improve.. however there are clearly some spots i still either overthink or think in the wrong way.  You tell me im playing 4-6 tables in order to 'think' and take unconventional lines so we can earn more $$ than the mass multitabling nerds.  BUT not once have i so far been 'praised' or 'ul mate i see what u did there, didnt work out this time'... so i wonder if im doing it right... or if im getting ul in the spots im getting OOL.  The 1010 hand is a perfect example of something being OOL i hardly do at all anymore, just sucks he had one of the few hands that call.

But don't anyone pretend to tell me that QQ-A9 are even thinking of calling seriously here.. when the guy is a reg and its a paired and 3flush board.  Because tbh imo that's a joke.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 15, 2012, 03:44:38 AM
The 1010hands are absolute trainwreck hands.

Ask 100 players and f ou can find 5. Who agree with nth lines il give 400 pound to charity of your choice.

The bet bet bet line is single most important part of micros I you don't agree with that yet then it will be the first and most important thing that you learn. Folding when your raised no matter how thin he reps
Is going to be the right vacuum play and until you do the very very basics right there is no point goog forward.

Speaking to Callum tidy he said he notices ur just trying to chase losses which would explain the 88, as dave also sad it's about playing 20k hands solidly.

In contrast I looked through my database and I've had less than 3 stop loss days in last 15 weeks at stakes that are aggressive at passive stakes they should be literally non existent nevermind semi common


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on July 15, 2012, 04:30:24 AM
The 1010hands are absolute trainwreck hands.

Ask 100 players and f ou can find 5. Who agree with nth lines il give 400 pound to charity of your choice.



I think you're being massively hypercritical here, and in general with John, you are. In pha today you posted some hands one of which was you flopping a straight with A5 and the guy bets like 80 into 150 and you shove for 2900. The other you're talking about 3betting to induce with 44 on 822hhx.

Every player that commented so far has said they hate both lines you've taken and that at best case scenario it's "not terrible".

Same with other hands you've posted in the past (the T5o hand lingers in the memory!).

Yet despite everyone's advice, reasons and comments you still think that they're good plays. Making comments like "yeh I've thought about this a lot and I still really like my line". It's a really common theme. You post hand where you take ridiculous line. Everyone slates you for it. You conclude thread by saying "I think it's fine".

You and John are so similar, you're more mature and further "down the line", but you're really similar.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on July 15, 2012, 04:31:29 AM
Other than that, the - raise, bet, bet, bet = get called by worse situation has happened so infrequently at my stakes I just don't believe its a stable line i can use.


Not sure if serious?!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on July 15, 2012, 05:20:33 AM
The 1010hands are absolute trainwreck hands.

Ask 100 players and f ou can find 5. Who agree with nth lines il give 400 pound to charity of your choice.



I think you're being massively hypercritical here, and in general with John, you are. In pha today you posted some hands one of which was you flopping a straight with A5 and the guy bets like 80 into 150 and you shove for 2900. The other you're talking about 3betting to induce with 44 on 822hhx.

Every player that commented so far has said they hate both lines you've taken and that at best case scenario it's "not terrible".

Same with other hands you've posted in the past (the T5o hand lingers in the memory!).

Yet despite everyone's advice, reasons and comments you still think that they're good plays. Making comments like "yeh I've thought about this a lot and I still really like my line". It's a really common theme. You post hand where you take ridiculous line. Everyone slates you for it. You conclude thread by saying "I think it's fine".

You and John are so similar, you're more mature and further "down the line", but you're really similar.
Accepting you are wrong is very hard to do. If after you have been presented with the evidence and still turn round and say I still like my way then this is very bad.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 15, 2012, 12:40:34 PM
The 1010hands are absolute trainwreck hands.

Ask 100 players and f ou can find 5. Who agree with nth lines il give 400 pound to charity of your choice.



I think you're being massively hypercritical here, and in general with John, you are. In pha today you posted some hands one of which was you flopping a straight with A5 and the guy bets like 80 into 150 and you shove for 2900. The other you're talking about 3betting to induce with 44 on 822hhx.

Every player that commented so far has said they hate both lines you've taken and that at best case scenario it's "not terrible".

Same with other hands you've posted in the past (the T5o hand lingers in the memory!).

Yet despite everyone's advice, reasons and comments you still think that they're good plays. Making comments like "yeh I've thought about this a lot and I still really like my line". It's a really common theme. You post hand where you take ridiculous line. Everyone slates you for it. You conclude thread by saying "I think it's fine".

You and John are so similar, you're more mature and further "down the line", but you're really similar.

Couldn't disagree with this more.

I'll just start this off with that I've coached over 20 people all massively improving their won rates. I have a good understanding of players needs and what they need to improve. I also know exactly what John needs to do and that is to play 20,000 hands lplaying a straight forward nitty game. Without just grinding and not making basic mistakes it will be impossible to progress.

Now regarding your in accurate comments.

I said ask 100people and less than 5 will agree. In the a5 hand there has been around 7/20 people who like it.

Like I have said time and time again before you can do the VERY basics you can't start trying to be fancy and trying to be cute

You learn about when is a good spot to do something once you e played 300,000 hands+ you understand situations/board textures etc alot better both you and jOhn come from a live enviroment and haven't played that many hands so perhaps I understand why you both think that because you try to do something non standard of is similar when on reality it really isn't.

I'll go into detail for you in simpler terms.

John has shoved the river for less than 0.5psb with 1010 on 99xxj.

It's 25 nl and when you do something thee has to be a reasOn for it. Somebody who can hand read well knows on the river he is polarised. Ie he never has 88 so has jx or a bluff. At 25 l people are never ever folding the river with a better hand than is.

Now let's look at the a5 hand. The flop is 234ddx And cut off raises, it's the vey first hand ofthetournament.

If we raise normally, he folds all his trash. He can call some overpairs that may hero fold later
If we call then there are a lot of bad turn cards and he bOardntextre could cont
Continue so that he hero c/fs turn or river
So now that we know he is goIng to fold y part of his range no matter what we do and can hero fold x part of his range if we raise or call then shoving becomes at least a good viable option.

Also the comment regarding me not accepting advice is bollocks. I posted 4 hands in 3 of them I replied thanks for the help guys and took on the advice.

The sentence 'dOnt run before you can walk' springs to mind with John. He can potentially be a good 50nl player but the basics absolutely have tO come first.

But what do I know, I'm just a fish clicking buttons right.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on July 15, 2012, 01:35:58 PM
Hey I was not having a go at you as its John's diary and was aimed at him. Once he listens to your advice and accepts it he starts moving up the levels quicker. After all what is the point of him taking you on as coach and then saying he still thinks he is right?

I don't know how to OPR but you are obv killing the online game ATM and targeting being the best zoom player in the world.

I just can't aggree with A5 hand but am prepared to listen and be proved wrong. Hope I never offended you. You deserve respect for all that you are doing with the coaching


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 15, 2012, 01:46:09 PM
Hey I was not having a go at you as its John's diary and was aimed at him. Once he listens to your advice and accepts it he starts moving up the levels quicker. After all what is the point of him taking you on as coach and then saying he still thinks he is right?

I don't know how to OPR but you are obv killing the online game ATM and targeting being the best zoom player in the world.

I just can't aggree with A5 hand but am prepared to listen and be proved wrong. Hope I never offended you. You deserve respect for all that you are doing with the coaching

I hadn't even seen you had posted mate, I'm worlds worst iphoner.

I totally understand why you don't like the a5 I thInk it's gOod but understand where you're coming from and raising can definitely be better a huge % of the time.

No beef with you mate,  you'd get one of the prime spots in my advent calendar for blonde dw :)

I just wanted to try and explain my thought processes regarding the hands and reasons why John shouldn't be doing this. If he now thinks that I'm being hypocritical then it's probably the very worst case scenario because t will be harder to see that he's making an effort.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: atdc21 on July 15, 2012, 01:59:16 PM
Hi all,
firstly thanks to john for reproducing hands etc so we can see them and how they played, trying to learn a bit more myself and find it very useful.
secondly thanks pleno for replies and analys, also very useful.
thirdly, pleno dont think its  john suggesting u r hypoc ritical. seemed like alex was but maybe he means hyper critical as in too harsh on him, not sure.
anyway keep the hands and replies coming , cheers all


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on July 15, 2012, 02:17:03 PM
Hey I was not having a go at you as its John's diary and was aimed at him. Once he listens to your advice and accepts it he starts moving up the levels quicker. After all what is the point of him taking you on as coach and then saying he still thinks he is right?

I don't know how to OPR but you are obv killing the online game ATM and targeting being the best zoom player in the world.

I just can't aggree with A5 hand but am prepared to listen and be proved wrong. Hope I never offended you. You deserve respect for all that you are doing with the coaching

I hadn't even seen you had posted mate, I'm worlds worst iphoner.

I totally understand why you don't like the a5 I thInk it's gOod but understand where you're coming from and raising can definitely be better a huge % of the time.

No beef with you mate,  you'd get one of the prime spots in my advent calendar for blonde dw :)

I just wanted to try and explain my thought processes regarding the hands and reasons why John shouldn't be doing this. If he now thinks that I'm being hypocritical then it's probably the very worst case scenario because t will be harder to see that he's making an effort.
Hey that hand you could easily be right but I am dumb and need convincing :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: zerofive on July 15, 2012, 05:19:38 PM
The sentence 'dOnt run before you can walk' springs to mind with John. He can potentially be a good 50nl player but the basics absolutely have tO come first.

But what do I know, I'm just a fish clicking buttons right.

I don't post in here very often but am a regular spectator. Completely agree with Pat here. John you're obviously very passionate and you have a great attitude towards the game; and what is very evident is that in future you will have some great ideas about the game. But please please please just get to a good place before you get too creative. The micros are boring mate; but crush them with perseverance. Would love to see you go far.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 15, 2012, 05:28:41 PM
Either way, we're not rolled for 25nl after yesterdays loss, so its back to 10nl for me.  Starting a session now, and I've just said to pleno in skype....

Two lines

- raise, bet, bet, bet... - for value/ semi bluff when we rep 15+ value combos

- raise, cbet/fold - when we don't has de nutz

= win @ internet poker.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 15, 2012, 05:31:31 PM
The sentence 'dOnt run before you can walk' springs to mind with John. He can potentially be a good 50nl player but the basics absolutely have tO come first.

But what do I know, I'm just a fish clicking buttons right.

I don't post in here very often but am a regular spectator. Completely agree with Pat here. John you're obviously very passionate and you have a great attitude towards the game; and what is very evident is that in future you will have some great ideas about the game. But please please please just get to a good place before you get too creative. The micros are boring mate; but crush them with perseverance. Would love to see you go far.

thanks Sean.

Thanks a lot mate.


All I can say is I'm trying, and listening despite not being one of my strongest points is something I'm only getting better at!

I know Pat is right, all I've said is its hard to see, and that in my small sample I have/ haven't seen some of the things he tells me are 'standard'.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 15, 2012, 05:41:21 PM
The sentence 'dOnt run before you can walk' springs to mind with John. He can potentially be a good 50nl player but the basics absolutely have tO come first.

But what do I know, I'm just a fish clicking buttons right.

I don't post in here very often but am a regular spectator. Completely agree with Pat here. John you're obviously very passionate and you have a great attitude towards the game; and what is very evident is that in future you will have some great ideas about the game. But please please please just get to a good place before you get too creative. The micros are boring mate; but crush them with perseverance. Would love to see you go far.

thanks Sean.

Thanks a lot mate.


All I can say is I'm trying, and listening despite not being one of my strongest points is something I'm only getting better at!

I know Pat is right, all I've said is its hard to see, and that in my small sample I have/ haven't seen some of the things he tells me are 'standard'.



He may be a little disassociated from the games but i doubt any of his advice is bad. Instead of getting frustrated, get grinding and show him just how well you can play. We are of very similar ability in my mind, and I've started to play a little more cash, but your super focused on very specific combinations and exploiting weaknesses in ranges and doing things that just don't need to be done. Sometimes its just a case of getting super ABC and instead of thinking, christ, he reps narrow here, think, LOL mbn fishy etc, because despite it being seemingly unlikely that they got there, they probably did :) Posted here cos it would have come across soooooooo gay over skype. GL today sir, I'm playing later so probs get some chat going x


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 15, 2012, 05:44:48 PM
The 1010hands are absolute trainwreck hands.

Ask 100 players and f ou can find 5. Who agree with nth lines il give 400 pound to charity of your choice.



I think you're being massively hypercritical here, and in general with John, you are. In pha today you posted some hands one of which was you flopping a straight with A5 and the guy bets like 80 into 150 and you shove for 2900. The other you're talking about 3betting to induce with 44 on 822hhx.

Every player that commented so far has said they hate both lines you've taken and that at best case scenario it's "not terrible".

Same with other hands you've posted in the past (the T5o hand lingers in the memory!).

Yet despite everyone's advice, reasons and comments you still think that they're good plays. Making comments like "yeh I've thought about this a lot and I still really like my line". It's a really common theme. You post hand where you take ridiculous line. Everyone slates you for it. You conclude thread by saying "I think it's fine".

You and John are so similar, you're more mature and further "down the line", but you're really similar.

Pretty sure John is the sort of character that can handle criticisms like this on the chin, and would prefer it to pussy footing around. I can see his frustration and perhaps Pat is harsh, but John (should) know its just because Pat wants the best for him.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 15, 2012, 07:59:04 PM
I only like to discuss hands with people who are prepared to fight for their opinions.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 15, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
The 1010hands are absolute trainwreck hands.

Ask 100 players and f ou can find 5. Who agree with nth lines il give 400 pound to charity of your choice.



I think you're being massively hypercritical here, and in general with John, you are. In pha today you posted some hands one of which was you flopping a straight with A5 and the guy bets like 80 into 150 and you shove for 2900. The other you're talking about 3betting to induce with 44 on 822hhx.

Every player that commented so far has said they hate both lines you've taken and that at best case scenario it's "not terrible".

Same with other hands you've posted in the past (the T5o hand lingers in the memory!).

Yet despite everyone's advice, reasons and comments you still think that they're good plays. Making comments like "yeh I've thought about this a lot and I still really like my line". It's a really common theme. You post hand where you take ridiculous line. Everyone slates you for it. You conclude thread by saying "I think it's fine".

You and John are so similar, you're more mature and further "down the line", but you're really similar.

Pretty sure John is the sort of character that can handle criticisms like this on the chin, and would prefer it to pussy footing around. I can see his frustration and perhaps Pat is harsh, but John (should) know its just because Pat wants the best for him.

This.. however a pat on the back for "how far you've come" would be nice somedays tbh.  Esp when its now like 1 hand in a thousand that is headexplode bad.

I only like to discuss hands with people who are prepared to fight for their opinions.



I do my best, but its hard to fight when ive only played 110/120k hands compared with you guys in the millions.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 15, 2012, 08:33:09 PM
Just a bunch of hands for discussion...

- http://wt.ag/NaLEZE
not sure about this.. i guess he should have flushes some % of the time.. might be terrible, really unsure.  In the past in this spot I've raised Qx flushes and so on and i accept that would be bad but with  Aspades idk.

- http://wt.ag/NaLYHT
happens sometimes...  ;thankyou; tyty

- http://wt.ag/NBEhoi
don't like this, i remember having a discussion about donk bets with a lot of people over the last few months.. and fwiw i remember most people saying that until you 'know' its strong you treat it like random hands/ junk as most people have that.  So in this case i guess we expect them to have 10x a lot. 
I prefer being overly cautious to donks @ these stakes but i have seen some really random stuff sometimes.

- http://wt.ag/NaMoOv
I personally like this, obv wanted to get it in on the flop, and since I had a super similar hand yesterday with 95o and Pat said turn woulda been a fold, in this hand I was cf to >1/2pot turn bet.

- http://wt.ag/NaMB4m
50c pls.


Other than that nothing special happened, we just lost most of the big pre flop all ins which is why we lost 2bi's but should have finished even. Meh..

More hands pls!


Off to chillout with Charlene for a bit as I'm sure she's feeling a little dejected, gotta make her feel like the princess she is! She deserves it!

(probably put a few more hands in later though).

laters!




ALSO - ANYONE that wants to skype/ teamviewer or do some online chatting/ analysis of hands, you're more than welcome.  Just ADD me on skype and quote this blog so i know who you are.

skype name - john.black.grinder



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 15, 2012, 09:08:08 PM
ATs...at these stakes maybe this is fine I have no idea, in general this is defo not a jam though imo

AT, seems very bad, its 3handed, limp/call UTG sets always possible unless he's playin like 65/4 or something where he'll have loads of T9's and the like, unless he's super LP I think jamming is the nut low line. If you had some reads on him postflop then you could defo start r/calling AT here, you cant invent those type of dynamics though, they need to genuinely exist. If you wanna raise make it $3.33 nd punish T8o only just re-read and he pots it as well, this has to be mega strong here surely?



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 15, 2012, 09:12:09 PM
K2dd hand really don't like squeezing it from the SB over a limp, would be a fine spot to sqeeze vs a btn open for sure but once he limps the btn he is NEVER folding and that really does damage the plays equity quite a bit (when we 3bet we make a lot of money from his folds) post flop seems fine, maybe bigger OTR IDK also please please please tell me the very first thing you did after this hand was over was to insta-note that the guy has limp/called the btn with AKo. These are the types of guys we want to be IP vs because you can really bang them about.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 15, 2012, 09:28:52 PM
The 1010hands are absolute trainwreck hands.

Ask 100 players and f ou can find 5. Who agree with nth lines il give 400 pound to charity of your choice.



I think you're being massively hypercritical here, and in general with John, you are. In pha today you posted some hands one of which was you flopping a straight with A5 and the guy bets like 80 into 150 and you shove for 2900. The other you're talking about 3betting to induce with 44 on 822hhx.

Every player that commented so far has said they hate both lines you've taken and that at best case scenario it's "not terrible".

Same with other hands you've posted in the past (the T5o hand lingers in the memory!).

Yet despite everyone's advice, reasons and comments you still think that they're good plays. Making comments like "yeh I've thought about this a lot and I still really like my line". It's a really common theme. You post hand where you take ridiculous line. Everyone slates you for it. You conclude thread by saying "I think it's fine".

You and John are so similar, you're more mature and further "down the line", but you're really similar.

Pretty sure John is the sort of character that can handle criticisms like this on the chin, and would prefer it to pussy footing around. I can see his frustration and perhaps Pat is harsh, but John (should) know its just because Pat wants the best for him.

This.. however a pat on the back for "how far you've come" would be nice somedays tbh.  Esp when its now like 1 hand in a thousand that is headexplode bad.



with the very greatest of respect John, I do like you. But how far exactly do you think you have come? I think the plays are still from the "old" John and you have reguarly hit stop losses and failed to beat a very passive limit.

Hope doesn't sound too harsh, if you play 25k hands super solid and win at 1bb I will be proudest father in world and will even buy you a card saying well done

xxxxx


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: stato_1 on July 15, 2012, 09:49:15 PM
All the hands you just posted are pretty reasonable mate. Maybe not 100% optimal but def fine and resembling a winner at those stakes. Build on that!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 15, 2012, 10:18:54 PM
Thanks fellas.

The 1010hands are absolute trainwreck hands.

Ask 100 players and f ou can find 5. Who agree with nth lines il give 400 pound to charity of your choice.


I think you're being massively hypercritical here, and in general with John, you are. In pha today you posted some hands one of which was you flopping a straight with A5 and the guy bets like 80 into 150 and you shove for 2900. The other you're talking about 3betting to induce with 44 on 822hhx.

Every player that commented so far has said they hate both lines you've taken and that at best case scenario it's "not terrible".
Same with other hands you've posted in the past (the T5o hand lingers in the memory!).
Yet despite everyone's advice, reasons and comments you still think that they're good plays. Making comments like "yeh I've thought about this a lot and I still really like my line". It's a really common theme. You post hand where you take ridiculous line. Everyone slates you for it. You conclude thread by saying "I think it's fine".

You and John are so similar, you're more mature and further "down the line", but you're really similar.
Pretty sure John is the sort of character that can handle criticisms like this on the chin, and would prefer it to pussy footing around. I can see his frustration and perhaps Pat is harsh, but John (should) know its just because Pat wants the best for him.
This.. however a pat on the back for "how far you've come" would be nice somedays tbh.  Esp when its now like 1 hand in a thousand that is headexplode bad.
with the very greatest of respect John, I do like you. But how far exactly do you think you have come? I think the plays are still from the "old" John and you have reguarly hit stop losses and failed to beat a very passive limit.
Hope doesn't sound too harsh, if you play 25k hands super solid and win at 1bb I will be proudest father in world and will even buy you a card saying well done
xxxxx

It does sound kinda harsh mate, but I honestly think I've come a LONG way considering my play at the start of the staking and play now.  I might still do some 'simple' things now and again but cast your mind back to 20 or 30 pages ago or where ever it is and look at those first hands posted.  For a start there were random  8s 4h 100bb bluff hands which just doesn't happen anymore at all, then there was a bunch of pretty terribad river bets with third pair top kicker for value... err good one john.

Also, I've definitely won @ greater than 1bb/100 over the last 20k hand sample, but I will continue to play here @ 10nl for another 23k hands (2k today) and we'll see where I end up.. deal?

I know i 'need' the harshness, but definitely softening it every now and then wouldn't hurt.
tbh, that's why I've been SUPER eager to get a session with you, even sweating so we can discuss things.  But I've had one session with you sweating since the start, and its hard to show you all the 'small' good decisions i now make as standard as a direct result of your instruction/ guidance or input.
I'll just list a few

- min raising button
- solid preflop ranges from agreed positions with slight alterations for player tendancies
- 3bt polarising ranges vs 4borfold people
- 3bt depolarised vs fish and regs who call OOP too much
- bet bet bet with tptk or better, but not value towning myself with worse otr
- folding to frustrating but obvious value lines (i.e. ckminr flop or ckminr turn vs my tpgk)

as well as a lack/ complete banishment on the random 100bb 3/4bt pre and bomb bomb bomb any runout cos "it'll work innit".

I should and do thank you for a lot so far, but as you can all see, im pretty hungry and want more!   Mainly because I see <100nl as weak and believe I can get there this year so I want to prove myself by doing it.

Irrelevant of the actual $$ in play, it's just enthusiasm.



Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 15, 2012, 10:52:57 PM
Just a bunch of hands for discussion...

- http://wt.ag/NaLEZE
not sure about this.. i guess he should have flushes some % of the time.. might be terrible, really unsure.  In the past in this spot I've raised Qx flushes and so on and i accept that would be bad but with  Aspades idk.

- http://wt.ag/NaLYHT
happens sometimes...  ;thankyou; tyty

- http://wt.ag/NBEhoi
don't like this, i remember having a discussion about donk bets with a lot of people over the last few months.. and fwiw i remember most people saying that until you 'know' its strong you treat it like random hands/ junk as most people have that.  So in this case i guess we expect them to have 10x a lot. 
I prefer being overly cautious to donks @ these stakes but i have seen some really random stuff sometimes.

- http://wt.ag/NaMoOv
I personally like this, obv wanted to get it in on the flop, and since I had a super similar hand yesterday with 95o and Pat said turn woulda been a fold, in this hand I was cf to >1/2pot turn bet.

- http://wt.ag/NaMB4m
50c pls.


Other than that nothing special happened, we just lost most of the big pre flop all ins which is why we lost 2bi's but should have finished even. Meh..

More hands pls!


Off to chillout with Charlene for a bit as I'm sure she's feeling a little dejected, gotta make her feel like the princess she is! She deserves it!

(probably put a few more hands in later though).

laters!




ALSO - ANYONE that wants to skype/ teamviewer or do some online chatting/ analysis of hands, you're more than welcome.  Just ADD me on skype and quote this blog so i know who you are.

skype name - john.black.grinder



asides from the k2 which is bad, the rest are very good/std value lines.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 15, 2012, 11:26:05 PM
Just a bunch of hands for discussion...

- http://wt.ag/NaLEZE
not sure about this.. i guess he should have flushes some % of the time.. might be terrible, really unsure.  In the past in this spot I've raised Qx flushes and so on and i accept that would be bad but with  Aspades idk.

- http://wt.ag/NaLYHT
happens sometimes...  ;thankyou; tyty

- http://wt.ag/NBEhoi
don't like this, i remember having a discussion about donk bets with a lot of people over the last few months.. and fwiw i remember most people saying that until you 'know' its strong you treat it like random hands/ junk as most people have that.  So in this case i guess we expect them to have 10x a lot. 
I prefer being overly cautious to donks @ these stakes but i have seen some really random stuff sometimes.

- http://wt.ag/NaMoOv
I personally like this, obv wanted to get it in on the flop, and since I had a super similar hand yesterday with 95o and Pat said turn woulda been a fold, in this hand I was cf to >1/2pot turn bet.

- http://wt.ag/NaMB4m
50c pls.


Other than that nothing special happened, we just lost most of the big pre flop all ins which is why we lost 2bi's but should have finished even. Meh..

More hands pls!


Off to chillout with Charlene for a bit as I'm sure she's feeling a little dejected, gotta make her feel like the princess she is! She deserves it!

(probably put a few more hands in later though).

laters!




ALSO - ANYONE that wants to skype/ teamviewer or do some online chatting/ analysis of hands, you're more than welcome.  Just ADD me on skype and quote this blog so i know who you are.

skype name - john.black.grinder



asides from the k2 which is bad, the rest are very good/std value lines.

Really? Cool. Ways in the K2 hand?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 15, 2012, 11:58:24 PM
inflating the pot oop when a 9 gapper.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 16, 2012, 01:26:41 AM
horrible to have some Ax/ Kx suited hands in our squeezing range?

Obv we're 'one and done' with the flop assuming it only goes hu..  Any more than hu and we just play our real hand strength in this spot.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 16, 2012, 01:33:21 AM
horrible to have some Ax/ Kx suited hands in our squeezing range?



doesnt nmatter what our range is, he limped. i.e doesn't know what a range is.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 16, 2012, 02:32:02 AM
horrible to have some Ax/ Kx suited hands in our squeezing range?



doesnt nmatter what our range is, he limped. i.e doesn't know what a range is.

True story. Fair enough.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 16, 2012, 11:12:25 PM
Just finished a sick long session of almost 3k hands and managed to win @ 5bb/100 which is nice n solid but a shame I hovered between +$10 and +$20 for the last 1k hands.

Went into an insta-hole in first few hundred with QQ<KK aipf and AcAh<KhQd on J10xccc/

Lost a bunch of nasty ones where people cc with random air and the ckb on the turn gives them the chance to hit their miracle bkdr gutshot.  Some of them I didn't even check it back.

Had some horrible spots one where I bet/fold river on K101010J with QQ vs a 3bt, cbet, c, crain... - I don't see how we can ever be winning, and I'd bet 1/3pot otr to get Jx/ pairs to call.  Don't think most people will have AA/10x/ AK that often when they check twice.


Other than that played really solid and out of the top 10 hands, i lost 8 or something.. so I guess I just need to work on my showdown skills.  Turns out i was a favourite in almost all I think so just need some runbetter.  I'll be speaking to Alex about how to do that.

nn all


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: skolsuper on July 17, 2012, 03:51:37 AM
Wow, john you take criticism better than anyone I've ever seen. Unfortunately pleno's general point is right, you need to learn ABC before you start on the other letters, however I agree with alex that it's laughable that pleno would be the one giving that advice, he spews more than anyone I've seen since the legendary Alex Martin. I especially enjoyed it when he tried to claim randomly overbet shoving with the nuts is a fresh new idea.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: celtic on July 17, 2012, 04:50:53 AM
Alex Martin spews?


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: TL900 on July 17, 2012, 05:13:08 AM
Bring more JB love on <3 ABC poker FTW


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: cambridgealex on July 17, 2012, 05:22:58 AM
Noorrrr <3 the JB XYZ poker!


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: JK on July 17, 2012, 05:33:54 AM
Definitely agree that you take criticism better than ANYBODY. Also, Iv never met anyone that loves the game more than you do, and you definitely are putting the work in.

Hope your run good comes soon mate


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain on July 17, 2012, 10:08:22 AM
Yeah it's all good banter and no malicious intentions. John and Patrick are valued contributers to the site and make for compulsive reading. Often the more left field people are the most interesting. Really love Johns insane edge mentality and all Plenos stuff. Would hate either to spit the dummy over anything on here.


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: pleno1 on July 17, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
Wow, john you take criticism better than anyone I've ever seen. Unfortunately pleno's general point is right, you need to learn ABC before you start on the other letters, however I agree with alex that it's laughable that pleno would be the one giving that advice, he spews more than anyone I've seen since the legendary Alex Martin. I especially enjoyed it when he tried to claim randomly overbet shoving with the nuts is a fresh new idea.

edit: cant be bothered with arguing.

gl :)


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: jgcblack on July 17, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
I know that Patrick takes strange lines and does things I've never seen other reg's do, however whenever I've talked to him he always has a reason and tries to break it down for me.

I know that I don't get some of it because 100% i don't understand the level he's on, which as he has said and I agree is not necessarily going to be the most helpful if i watch him do something 'strange' and I do the same thing in imitation for the wrong reasons.

However I am becoming super ABC and <3 the game soo much, its just the best game you could ever play!
Poker is in the mind and as such you can compete on a fair/ level playing field with the widest possible spread of people from all walks of life and levels of intelligence.  Yes, we lol at the guys who's reasoning is "well i won your $$ didn't i?" but THEY DO win some times... have you met The Rasta-fish? that's exactly the reason we who study the game more can try to make some moneys out of it and use an edge to carve ourselves a slice of the pie.

I am willing to listen to anyone who can put a reasonable argument and can back themselves up with either numbers and or results, because I genuinely believe you can learn from ANYONE who plays poker, even if the learning is a better understanding of that 'type' of persons play.

I don't want anyone to fall out over me not listening to advice as that is clearly my problem, however I struggle to put it into practice sometimes.  Sometimes I just get tired over 1000 hands or whatever and then have something happen and I 'level' myself into doing something non-optimal.  However these occurrences are happening less and less and I AM grinding as much as possible, considering i have a 9-5 job and travel around the world doing 14hour days for you tax dodging uber geniuses using the old tax £ the rest of us pay.


Now back to it as I have a day off today to be supportive of my lovely Charlene and her online tests to try and get a job @ same place i work.  So while she's doing that I'm going to get a grind on and crack another few thousand hands out today.

gl me

love you all,


Title: Re: An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?
Post by: smashedagain