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Title: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on June 02, 2012, 06:49:21 PM
Hi guys. My name is marc wright. I have been playing poker full time for about 4 years. I play mainly online where i have been pretty successful, i am the biggest online MTT winner in the uk over the past 2 years. I have recently started playing some bigger live events with some success, getting 13th in the irish open and 7th in EPT berlin. These runs have obviously given me a ton of confidence going in to the wsop.
I have recently won my 2nd SCOOP title on pokerstars and won a $320 6max comp which meant i have now won every torny on pokerstars with a buyin over $50.
I have included my pokerstars graph for the past 2 years at the bottom.

Im selling at 1.4, which is higher than i have ever sold at before, and although it may seem high (even to me), the many people i have spoken to about this matter all think my ROI in this package is likely to be HUGE. I have looked on 2+2 and people whom i would consider less experienced than me and have worse profiles than me have been selling at 1.5+ !


http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=136501

http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/dean23price/poker/results/9FA6E35B2D904EECBB3D8EB269669CE9.html?t=2


I have sold about 10-12 packages on blonde before and im up about $200k on them packages (online and live).

Im lookin to sell 20% of the following events

Thursday 5th july WSOP event 59, $1k NL *

Thursday 5th july   Bellagio            $5180 NL *

Thursday 5th july venetian             $2500 NL *

WSOP main event (day 1c)           $10k NL

 * As you can see, i included the $1k wsop event, the ventian $2500 and the $5k at bellagio. The 1k only has 3k starting stack, and bellagio has a long late registraion as does the venetian comp. So my thinking is, ill play the 1k and if i happen to bust within the first 4 hours i can late reg the bellagio comp. If the bellagio comp lacks numbers (which ive been warned might be the case) ill play the venetian comp instead. So, ill call it $6180 (wsop + bellagio), but there may be a refund (with mark up) if i dont play both or play the venetian comp instead of the bellagio.

The total buyins ($10k main + $6180 max spend for the 5th of july)

        $16,180 @ 1.4 = $22,652

so 10% is $2265.20
      5% is $1132.60
      1% is $226.52

Locking in xe.com rate which is currently 1 GBP = 1.54 USD       1 USD = 0.65 GBP

%'s will be given first come first served basis, and the money needs to be sent via uk bank xfer as i have all ready made plans for US $$ + i won a package for main.
I would prefer to sell to people who are able to pay immediately as dont want to be checking who has paid and who hasn't.

Any questions, please ask

thanks, marc


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: George2Loose on June 02, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
2%pls


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Rupert on June 02, 2012, 06:50:44 PM
rest


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 02, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
5 pls


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: GreekStein on June 02, 2012, 06:51:06 PM
reserve 3 for amatay


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: ForthThistle on June 02, 2012, 06:53:16 PM
0.5% Please.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Whollyflush on June 02, 2012, 06:53:48 PM
10%


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on June 02, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
2%pls

booked m8


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Rupert on June 02, 2012, 06:55:13 PM
sent bank for 18% GL


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: ForthThistle on June 02, 2012, 06:55:51 PM
1min 15s.

Wow.

GL Sir.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 02, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
Fkn sigh. I'd booked 5 of main with you already right marc?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on June 02, 2012, 06:56:29 PM
rest

booked m8 thanks. SOLD OUT


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: George2Loose on June 02, 2012, 06:56:37 PM

Pm bank dets pls. Will send tonight


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Whollyflush on June 02, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
10%

lol too slow gl


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on June 02, 2012, 07:02:44 PM
RUPERT 18%
G2L 2%

Sorry to those who wanted action etc, alot of people asked me to semi reserve it etc, and i would of loved to of sold action to every1, but it would of meant me having -%0 of myself lol.

I considered doing an auction on here, but felt like i was following the trend too hard!



Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: George2Loose on June 02, 2012, 07:09:48 PM
Good decision IMO mate


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 02, 2012, 07:09:58 PM
RUPERT 18%
G2L 2%

Sorry to those who wanted action etc, alot of people asked me to semi reserve it etc, and i would of loved to of sold action to every1, but it would of meant me having -%0 of myself lol.

I considered doing an auction on here, but felt like i was following the trend too hard!



Should've done auction mate. Would've sold for sold for way higher. And only the biggest fanboys get a piece :D

Is my 5 for the main we spoke about not booked then? :(


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: titaniumbean on June 02, 2012, 07:22:32 PM
Im selling at 1.4, which is higher than i have ever sold at before, and although it may seem high (even to me), the many people i have spoken to about this matter all think my ROI in this package is likely to be HUGE. I have looked on 2+2 and people whom i would consider less experienced than me and have worse profiles than me have been selling at 1.5+ !


think 1.7 would have been fair to backers still tbh.


at 1.4 I would have bought a large chunk. I think you would and should still have sold out if you had sold at 2.

GL anyway.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: titaniumbean on June 02, 2012, 07:22:51 PM
zomg twat


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: smashedagain on June 02, 2012, 07:54:01 PM
Why not try selling at 2.0.  ?
Probably have to wait 10 mins for it to sell out but you'd love the sweat  :)


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Amatay on June 02, 2012, 08:56:06 PM
reserve 3 for amatay

this booked mate?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 02, 2012, 10:31:31 PM
reserve 3 for amatay

this booked mate?

Doubt it mate, rupert rested it before cos (and me grr) posted


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 02, 2012, 10:47:23 PM
think 1.7 would have been fair to backers still tbh.


at 1.4 I would have bought a large chunk. I think you would and should still have sold out if you had sold at 2.

GL anyway.


Are you ill? 1.7 fair? 2.0 is a good deal?

No offence to Marc whatsoever as he is well aware I think his game is superb but there is no way 2.0 is anything like fair, Ivey + Mercier would be bad buys at 2 and I don't even think it's close.

For 1.7 to be "fair" then Marc has to expect this package to return a profit of about $50,000 (PROFIT) even with the main event I think that's a stretch.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: smashedagain on June 02, 2012, 10:57:17 PM
think 1.7 would have been fair to backers still tbh.


at 1.4 I would have bought a large chunk. I think you would and should still have sold out if you had sold at 2.

GL anyway.


Are you ill? 1.7 fair? 2.0 is a good deal?

No offence to Marc whatsoever as he is well aware I think his game is superb but there is no way 2.0 is anything like fair, Ivey + Mercier would be bad buys at 2 and I don't even think it's close.

For 1.7 to be "fair" then Marc has to expect this package to return a profit of about $50,000 (PROFIT) even with the main event I think that's a stretch.
Dave could you take 2 mins to explain why 1.7 has to return $50k profit? Please show working outs as well. Ty


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 02, 2012, 11:03:15 PM
His roi is probably close to 100% in those comps no? Therefore 2.0 is b/e for backers.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: GreekStein on June 02, 2012, 11:17:33 PM
think 1.7 would have been fair to backers still tbh.


at 1.4 I would have bought a large chunk. I think you would and should still have sold out if you had sold at 2.

GL anyway.


Are you ill? 1.7 fair? 2.0 is a good deal?

No offence to Marc whatsoever as he is well aware I think his game is superb but there is no way 2.0 is anything like fair, Ivey + Mercier would be bad buys at 2 and I don't even think it's close.

For 1.7 to be "fair" then Marc has to expect this package to return a profit of about $50,000 (PROFIT) even with the main event I think that's a stretch.

pretty sure you'd make money at 2.0 buying in mercier and ivey


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: titaniumbean on June 02, 2012, 11:18:54 PM
think 1.7 would have been fair to backers still tbh.


at 1.4 I would have bought a large chunk. I think you would and should still have sold out if you had sold at 2.

GL anyway.


Are you ill? 1.7 fair? 2.0 is a good deal?

No offence to Marc whatsoever as he is well aware I think his game is superb but there is no way 2.0 is anything like fair, Ivey + Mercier would be bad buys at 2 and I don't even think it's close.

For 1.7 to be "fair" then Marc has to expect this package to return a profit of about $50,000 (PROFIT) even with the main event I think that's a stretch.


explain exactly what each persons ROI is......

if you cant you have to guess. if most peoples guesses are based on nothing but thin air then considering the level of interest in his action he could sell at a much higher markup.


also I don't think fair is the right word in the sense it is subjective and everyone can have a different idea of what fair is.


is the markup people are willing to pay the fairest when it turns their investment to b/e. who is it fair to when it is either side of breakeven?

given that the person is selling imo it should always be below the b/e point but considering the markups Marc has charged for online even given his winrate and compared to that which other people regularly charge (and sell out at) online I think he could both go higher on his online action and most definitely on live action at the busy wsop donk fest.


I would disagree that it's not close for Ivey et al. Remember how impossible it will be to ever workout actual winrates for live donkfests.


Marc if you're reading this lower your markup more innit :p


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 02, 2012, 11:34:25 PM
if his ROI is 100% then buying at 2.0 is not a good deal.

lets say package = $10k. ROI of 100%, expected value of package $20k, you buy 10% for $2k you are not making money, the player gets to enjoy 100% of his profit without taking the risk and the investors flip off at even money.

So really with a 100% ROI, you'd wanna be paying a premium of MAX 40% for it to be classified as a "GOOD" deal. If you wanna punt it around then buying high is fine (and what I do most of the time I buy pieces)

pretty sure you'd make money at 2.0 buying in mercier and ivey

you'd make a few %'s prolly yh. but buying in loads of different people at 1.2 would be miles more profitable imo.

Pretty pointless de-rail as he's sold at 1.4 which seems like a perfectly fine price to me :) but he sold out in 16 seconds so Im gonna de-rail away!


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Doobs on June 02, 2012, 11:42:35 PM
think 1.7 would have been fair to backers still tbh.


at 1.4 I would have bought a large chunk. I think you would and should still have sold out if you had sold at 2.

GL anyway.


Are you ill? 1.7 fair? 2.0 is a good deal?

No offence to Marc whatsoever as he is well aware I think his game is superb but there is no way 2.0 is anything like fair, Ivey + Mercier would be bad buys at 2 and I don't even think it's close.

For 1.7 to be "fair" then Marc has to expect this package to return a profit of about $50,000 (PROFIT) even with the main event I think that's a stretch.

pretty sure you'd make money at 2.0 buying in mercier and ivey

Sharkscope does ROIs for live events now, obviously very small samples but Mercier 81%, Ivey 226%.  WSOPs make up a big chunk of that sample.

Looked up a few randoms (and they were pretty random)

Annette 15 -50%, Toby Lewis -52%, John Eames -16% (though doesn't include the one from the other night that made me think of his name), Shaun Deeb -43%

and from the old school, the back in form Phil Hellmuth is only +73%

FWIW James Dempsey wins the internet on +396%

FWIW I think Marc is value at 1.4, but not that many are, and I can't be having that the $5k he has put in is going to be full of donks.  And the WSOP isn't that easy any more either, sure you can still get joke easy tables, but you can get some pretty tough ones too.

This all doesn't mean he wouldn't have sold at 2.0, far worse players manage to sell at 2 as the herbinator always reminds us.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: titaniumbean on June 03, 2012, 12:48:37 AM
obviously the mu is skewed by the fact it is wsop, and especially when people are selling for the ME.

I was just talking about it in terms of for Marc and considering his WR and the speed with which he can sell out.

The market itself has to determine at what rate people don't even buy and what % lower than the horses BE point they are willing to invest at whilst remembering the amount of MU is all relative to what other people are/can selling at.

Anyway Dayvid stop de-raling the thread, do a blog post and reply to my pm ta. :)up


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: titaniumbean on June 03, 2012, 12:49:07 AM


This all doesn't mean he wouldn't have sold at 2.0, far worse players manage to sell at 2 as the herbinator always reminds us.



this.

how long has ss been tracking them doobs?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 03, 2012, 12:57:34 AM
Auctions are the nut market solution imo.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Rupert on June 03, 2012, 01:00:02 AM
If everyone did an auction I jut wouldn't buy any action


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 03, 2012, 01:10:03 AM
You'd miss out on some good bargains I imagine.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Rupert on June 03, 2012, 01:22:44 AM
I'm looking at the auctions and don't think I'm missing anything


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: The Camel on June 03, 2012, 01:34:20 AM
Got to agree with Mr Elder here.

auctions are definitely best for the player, they will get the best possible prive for their action.

For the buyer, it is obviously the nut worst thing. Doubt I wold get my share in Mr Rutter for 1.1 if he's auctioned it.

(definitely not saying I won't bid in a auction.. just I prefer the old way as a buyer)


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 03, 2012, 01:37:17 AM
I'm looking at the auctions and don't think I'm missing anything

Lol sick rubs.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: pleno1 on June 03, 2012, 02:40:50 AM
Got to agree with Mr Elder here.

auctions are definitely best for the player, they will get the best possible prive for their action.

For the buyer, it is obviously the nut worst thing. Doubt I wold get my share in Mr Rutter for 1.1 if he's auctioned it.

(definitely not saying I won't bid in a auction.. just I prefer the old way as a buyer)

yeh this, i dont wanna buy at 1.5 very often, im pissed if i miss some sick value, but its unlikely that vaue would stay at the price id consider real value.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: pleno1 on June 03, 2012, 02:49:06 AM
also i like to know my exposure and in an auction you arent sure if youre gonna get the % and then u work out if you want to spend on a dfferent stake etc. on blonde u know how much youve bought, when youve bought it and how much ur willing to spend.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: gatso on June 03, 2012, 09:41:10 AM
also i like to know my exposure and in an auction you arent sure if youre gonna get the % and then u work out if you want to spend on a dfferent stake etc. on blonde u know how much youve bought, when youve bought it and how much ur willing to spend.

unless there's a buyback caveat  ;hide;


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: George2Loose on June 03, 2012, 12:43:08 PM
Shipped via bank


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on June 03, 2012, 04:10:59 PM
could a mod pls move the flaming regarding "2.0 and 1.7" to a seperate flaming thread as it has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread, when my mark up is 1.4 ?

thanks, marc


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: DMorgan on June 03, 2012, 04:17:30 PM
+1 for the creation of a 'General Staking Gripes Containment Thread'


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: pleno1 on June 03, 2012, 04:37:27 PM
+1 for the creation of a 'General Staking Gripes Containment Thread'

but then potential investors for the package might not realise theres a problem etc


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 03, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
I mean 1.4 for this guy really?  I saw him go ALL IN ON THE TURN WITH QUEEN HIGH!

QUEEN HIGH?! THAT'S NOT A GOOD HAND.

Good luck, you're all gonna need it...

 :goodpost:
 ;iagree;
 ;topman;
 ;first;



Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on June 09, 2012, 04:00:15 PM
decided gona open up 5%. first come first served!


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 09, 2012, 04:00:20 PM
I'll take it ty Marc.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on June 09, 2012, 04:01:48 PM
I'll take it ty Marc.

booked, sold out ty


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: gatso on June 09, 2012, 04:20:01 PM
decided gona open up 5%. first come first served!
I'll take it ty Marc.

5 seconds. how is that even possible?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on June 09, 2012, 04:22:09 PM
decided gona open up 5%. first come first served!
I'll take it ty Marc.

5 seconds. how is that even possible?

Click the "notify" button - emails when a thread is updated. simples :)


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 05, 2012, 10:00:45 PM
Made it to Vegas. In the 1k at the moment. Doubled early on. Table is one of softest I have ever sat at.
Gl us


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: treefella on July 05, 2012, 10:02:49 PM
lol gl


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on July 05, 2012, 11:10:44 PM
Yeh the 1k is a joke! Gl see u tomorrow hopefully.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 08, 2012, 03:11:59 AM
33k at dinner. been some tough spots, feel like ive lost the minimum in some cooler spots. Will write properly at end of day.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: George2Loose on July 08, 2012, 06:34:02 AM
Gogogogo


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2012, 06:41:03 AM
Gogogogo

Marc had 100k at the break before last. I'm just off to try & find him - his table broke, so bit of a nightmare to locate him.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 08, 2012, 09:14:19 AM
finished day with 89,150

played ok today i think. Put the guys to my right in impossible spots and got them to do stupid stuff. I think i was 3betting vs real good stacks and picking up light opens pretty good.

I played 3 significant pots today. (nt gona go into great detail as im pretty tired, but ur get the idea)

77 wasnt good on 76482 against 88. He checks back river too.

Then at my 3rd table of the day, playing about 50k at 200/400 w/50ante, utg opens to 800 playing 30k. I 3bet the button with  Qs 8s. He peels. Comes like  Kh 7h 3c. He thinks for a minute or so and checks. I bet pretty small to induce something as its pretty hard for him to have a legitimate value hand that he can c/r (he is 4betting AK AA vs me 100% with how i was playing).
Anyways, he check/raised after a few seconds thought. I was gona 3bet the flop but he can just jam flush draws and obv i have queen high. So i call. Turn was the  8c (BOOM made a pair). He barrells turn and i call/ River pairs the 3. So now he kinda has 77, or complete air (possibly missed heart flush draws). He jams river i called pretty quickly to see the no pair / draw. ty buddy.

I lost a decent sized pot near the end when i should of folded the river. He took an insanely strong line  which made his hand 100% polarized towards bluffs or flushes. He had the latter.

Pretty happy with 89k, but feel like i should have 120-130 but whatever.
I wouldnt wana be out of position to myself (sorry if that sounds arrogant), and hopefully can run up a stack and make a run at this. I have made 2 day 2's this year and finished 12th and 7th in them respectively so hopefully make a run at it


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: outragous76 on July 08, 2012, 09:55:10 AM
finished day with 89,150


Then at my 3rd table of the day, playing about 50k at 200/400 w/50ante, utg opens to 800 playing 30k. I 3bet the button with  Qs 8s. He peels. Comes like  Kh 7h 3c. He thinks for a minute or so and checks. I bet pretty small to induce something as its pretty hard for him to have a legitimate value hand that he can c/r (he is 4betting AK AA vs me 100% with how i was playing).
Anyways, he check/raised after a few seconds thought. I was gona 3bet the flop but he can just jam flush draws and obv i have queen high. So i call. Turn was the  8c (BOOM made a pair). He barrells turn and i call/ River pairs the 3. So now he kinda has 77, or complete air (possibly missed heart flush draws). He jams river i called pretty quickly to see the no pair / draw. ty buddy.


Could be one of my favourite hand reviews ever!

I would love to be a fly on the wall when he is telling his mates how he bust the main!

He probs had to resort to KK<AA as he still can't work out the hand anyway


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2012, 11:29:14 AM
"Sorry Dad, some nutter was 3 betting me in position every hand, he can't ever have it so I decided to see a flop. It came King high, and of course he c-bet. He can never have it so I check raised. He called. Bollocks. Turn came a blank so I fire again. He called again. Bollocks

River pairs the board. He's obviously not got enough to call so I confidently shove. He calls with middle pair on the turn, bad two pair on the river. He called me on the flop with Queen high no pair no draw, Dad"


I think as Guy says

"Sorry Dad had set under set on K-7-3 rainbow" just sounds much easier


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: AlexMartin on July 08, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
jeez his river jam is horrific.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 09, 2012, 06:04:00 PM
forgot to say pre torny, but amatay has 2% of main. just for my records posting it here


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: LOJ on July 10, 2012, 12:08:28 PM
GL


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: pleno1 on July 10, 2012, 12:51:34 PM
gl today man

#theycanttakeanumore

#abouttoblow

#theres7daystoplay


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 10, 2012, 04:33:50 PM
GL

?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: celtic on July 10, 2012, 04:35:36 PM
gl marc


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: millidonk on July 10, 2012, 04:36:41 PM
gl marc


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: sovietsong on July 10, 2012, 05:01:39 PM

think it means good luck


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: outragous76 on July 10, 2012, 05:01:51 PM


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: smashedagain on July 10, 2012, 05:08:20 PM
Gonad Licker Marc


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 10, 2012, 05:32:46 PM

for some reason i thought it said LOL. must of been half asleep at the time.

yeh feeling pretty good going into today tbh lets gogo


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Amatay on July 10, 2012, 05:51:28 PM
Gonad Licker Marc

ha, dunno why but this amused my simple brain :)


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 11, 2012, 03:21:11 AM
120k at dinner. lost 135k pot AQ<AK and 100k pot JQ<KJ in 3bet pot on KQJQK


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 11, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
card dead whole fkin day, got coolerd in massive pots 3 times yet finished on 129,300. Dont think it was humanly possible to finish on more.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: smashedagain on July 11, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Awesome performance. Keep cool man and go deep


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 13, 2012, 03:53:22 AM
545k at dinner


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: outragous76 on July 13, 2012, 09:21:15 AM
can someone give this man chip stacking lessons over night

kthnx

(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo151/outragous76/railtard1.png)


(pic from poker news to save getting in trouble)


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: smashedagain on July 13, 2012, 02:39:50 PM
can someone give this man chip stacking lessons over night

kthnx

(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo151/outragous76/railtard1.png)


(pic from poker news to save getting in trouble)
Lol. Online geeks innit


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: pokerfan on July 13, 2012, 03:47:29 PM
Draw been kind, should be able to abuse the bubble pretty hard.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Amatay on July 13, 2012, 03:48:45 PM
yh, 3 covering stacks but think he's gone pos on all 3. gl Marco


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Amatay on July 13, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
yh, 3 covering stacks but think he's gone pos on all 3. gl Marco

forget that shit. he's cl on is tab :)


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 14, 2012, 02:51:05 AM
895k at dinner


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 14, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
busted in like 350-400th ish for $28k

Flying home later today but will write up a decent HH for the final day. Was some real cool spots.

My bust was a huge cooler. I had got away from some pretty big hands in this comp but dont think i could away this time.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 19, 2012, 10:36:28 PM
In light of recent tlk about stakin threads not being dealt with correctly, wanted to just clarify here (altho i have spoke to every1 involved) that i rcvd a cheque from wsop, paid it into english bank (barclays) on monday afternoon, as soon as it clears, i will send refunds via bank xfer. The people involved knew this anyways, but wanted to post it here.

cheers


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: The Camel on July 19, 2012, 10:49:46 PM
In light of recent tlk about stakin threads not being dealt with correctly, wanted to just clarify here (altho i have spoke to every1 involved) that i rcvd a cheque from wsop, paid it into english bank (barclays) on monday afternoon, as soon as it clears, i will send refunds via bank xfer. The people involved knew this anyways, but wanted to post it here.

cheers

As you posted it here and you are certain to bink big agains abroad sometime soon..

Taking a cheque in a foreign currency is the nut worst thing to do. (Or it was the last time I did it about 8 years ago). Unless you have a foreign currency account.

It takes forever to clear and the bank absolutely screws you with fees and exchange rate.

I would say taking cash is best (but with a big figure that's obv impracticable) followed by a wire transfer to your bank.

Others might have different experiences.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 19, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
In light of recent tlk about stakin threads not being dealt with correctly, wanted to just clarify here (altho i have spoke to every1 involved) that i rcvd a cheque from wsop, paid it into english bank (barclays) on monday afternoon, as soon as it clears, i will send refunds via bank xfer. The people involved knew this anyways, but wanted to post it here.

cheers

As you posted it here and you are certain to bink big agains abroad sometime soon..

Taking a cheque in a foreign currency is the nut worst thing to do. (Or it was the last time I did it about 8 years ago). Unless you have a foreign currency account.

It takes forever to clear and the bank absolutely screws you with fees and exchange rate.

I would say taking cash is best (but with a big figure that's obv impracticable) followed by a wire transfer to your bank.

Others might have different experiences.

yh i took cash in berlin and flushy's company exchanged it. I did plan on arranging bank wire this time but busted the main, was obviously a bit tilted / frustrated, and went straight into the payout area and didnt have bank details to hand so didnt have much choice.
I will sort it for next time tho, thanks.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 20, 2012, 03:47:20 AM
was going to post the same thing Marc,  with $ espcially, it's so easy to sort you can ask me, keys, flushy to sort on your behalf and we'd all have done it and would have taken literally no time.

Any form of foreign currency to a UK bank is an absolute NO-NO seriously you get so fucked. I remember attempting to wire a decent sum home and realising I stood to lose 7-8% of the XE rate which is literally in-excusable when you have the network of contacts that blonde offers.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 20, 2012, 03:50:41 AM
was going to post the same thing Marc,  with $ espcially, it's so easy to sort you can ask me, keys, flushy to sort on your behalf and we'd all have done it and would have taken literally no time.

Any form of foreign currency to a UK bank is an absolute NO-NO seriously you get so fucked. I remember attempting to wire a decent sum home and realising I stood to lose 7-8% of the XE rate which is literally in-excusable when you have the network of contacts that blonde offers.

yhyh, was my first time vegas, there was tons of stuff i was a noob at, i feel like next year ill know so much more and be better prepared.

Thanks for info dave


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: smashedagain on July 20, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
Have you not used Flushies service before Marc. Thought he sent someone to plymouth and pick some euros? Up and change em for you before.

Are you expecting to lose much dough on the xchange?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: pleno1 on July 20, 2012, 10:39:36 AM
Have you not used Flushies service before Marc. Thought he sent someone to plymouth and pick some euros? Up and change em for you before.

Are you expecting to lose much dough on the xchange?

In light of recent tlk about stakin threads not being dealt with correctly, wanted to just clarify here (altho i have spoke to every1 involved) that i rcvd a cheque from wsop, paid it into english bank (barclays) on monday afternoon, as soon as it clears, i will send refunds via bank xfer. The people involved knew this anyways, but wanted to post it here.

cheers

As you posted it here and you are certain to bink big agains abroad sometime soon..

Taking a cheque in a foreign currency is the nut worst thing to do. (Or it was the last time I did it about 8 years ago). Unless you have a foreign currency account.

It takes forever to clear and the bank absolutely screws you with fees and exchange rate.

I would say taking cash is best (but with a big figure that's obv impracticable) followed by a wire transfer to your bank.

Others might have different experiences.

yh i took cash in berlin and flushy's company exchanged it. I did plan on arranging bank wire this time but busted the main, was obviously a bit tilted / frustrated, and went straight into the payout area and didnt have bank details to hand so didnt have much choice.
I will sort it for next time tho, thanks.



Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: smashedagain on July 20, 2012, 10:46:40 AM
Have you not used Flushies service before Marc. Thought he sent someone to plymouth and pick some euros? Up and change em for you before.

Are you expecting to lose much dough on the xchange?

In light of recent tlk about stakin threads not being dealt with correctly, wanted to just clarify here (altho i have spoke to every1 involved) that i rcvd a cheque from wsop, paid it into english bank (barclays) on monday afternoon, as soon as it clears, i will send refunds via bank xfer. The people involved knew this anyways, but wanted to post it here.

cheers

As you posted it here and you are certain to bink big agains abroad sometime soon..

Taking a cheque in a foreign currency is the nut worst thing to do. (Or it was the last time I did it about 8 years ago). Unless you have a foreign currency account.

It takes forever to clear and the bank absolutely screws you with fees and exchange rate.

I would say taking cash is best (but with a big figure that's obv impracticable) followed by a wire transfer to your bank.

Others might have different experiences.

yh i took cash in berlin and flushy's company exchanged it. I did plan on arranging bank wire this time but busted the main, was obviously a bit tilted / frustrated, and went straight into the payout area and didnt have bank details to hand so didnt have much choice.
I will sort it for next time tho, thanks.

Lol. Yeah it's about 3 posts above mine. Short term memory defo going. Alzheimer's in the family ffs


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Simon Galloway on July 20, 2012, 03:00:58 PM

I would say taking cash is best


LDO.  You stand in the middle of the Rio and swap out the cash with people for MB/Stars +5%  Then you get full value for the loot and no security risk flying home with it.  When you get home, you can pay people by MB/Stars (particularly those that paid you that way).

At that point you can decide to screw your mates and keep the vig, pass on the vig pro rated to backers, depends largely on individual character.

What amazes me in the poker world is how bad people are  at this stuff.  They can spend hundreds of hours fine-tuning their stats in obscure spots on the turn taht result in 0.002% improvement, but can't spend half an hour preventing Uncle Sam from taking 30% or from Barclays taking 5%

And just in case there's any doubt, when you swap with Barclays, they really do mean 5% of everything.

There is another way, open a USD account in Vegas and pay it in.  WIth a little bit of fore-thought, you can work out how to get that back to everyone intact.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: railtard1 on July 20, 2012, 04:06:10 PM

I would say taking cash is best


LDO.  You stand in the middle of the Rio and swap out the cash with people for MB/Stars +5%  Then you get full value for the loot and no security risk flying home with it.  When you get home, you can pay people by MB/Stars (particularly those that paid you that way).

At that point you can decide to screw your mates and keep the vig, pass on the vig pro rated to backers, depends largely on individual character.

What amazes me in the poker world is how bad people are  at this stuff.  They can spend hundreds of hours fine-tuning their stats in obscure spots on the turn taht result in 0.002% improvement, but can't spend half an hour preventing Uncle Sam from taking 30% or from Barclays taking 5%

And just in case there's any doubt, when you swap with Barclays, they really do mean 5% of everything.

There is another way, open a USD account in Vegas and pay it in.  WIth a little bit of fore-thought, you can work out how to get that back to everyone intact.

yh as i said, i was pretty inexperienced with that kinda stuff. For next year i will obviously be better prepared.
I didnt take cash as was leaving the next mornng and wasnt sure what the issue was with taking cash through customs. And fwiw, everyone paid bank, so i am returning like that.

Out of interest, how long do bank wires from the rio take for future note?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: redsimon on July 20, 2012, 05:53:53 PM
I wonder if stuff about dealing with exchange rates bank etc is something we should include in the "Going to Vegas" thread as an OP/sticky?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Boba Fett on July 20, 2012, 05:58:26 PM
While we are on the topic where is the best place in the UK to change dollars back to pounds?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Marky147 on July 20, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
While we are on the topic where is the best place in the UK to change dollars back to pounds?

Bank of Dempsey


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Simon Galloway on July 20, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
Definitely swapping @ spot with other poker players heading out ftw.

http://www.change-link.co.uk/ (http://www.change-link.co.uk/) today are selling @1.565 or buying back @ 1.5873

Curiously, that's better than spot (1.562) for their sell price!  so the price might not have updated, but also for big size, worth asking them to tighten up the spread too.  Any time you can get spot +1c its good.  Spot +<2c is fine for modest sums, no point driving the length of the country to save  $20.

And nothing wrong with letting Flushy quote you either.


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Royal Flush on July 21, 2012, 07:14:40 AM
While we are on the topic where is the best place in the UK to change dollars back to pounds?

:) how much do you have?


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: DMorgan on July 21, 2012, 07:55:57 AM
Looking to change $2.5k Flushy, PM details if thats enough :D


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: cambridgealex on July 21, 2012, 08:53:11 AM
looking to change 12k flushy pls


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Boba Fett on July 21, 2012, 01:08:56 PM
While we are on the topic where is the best place in the UK to change dollars back to pounds?

:) how much do you have?
Sent it off this morning, thanks anyway


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: Royal Flush on July 21, 2012, 07:16:02 PM
Boys pm me any $ requests and I'll get onto it on Monday. Please let me know where these $ are as well :)


Title: Re: Marc wright WSOP action
Post by: smashedagain on July 22, 2012, 12:02:29 AM
Boys pm me any $ requests and I'll get onto it on Monday. Please let me know where these $ are as well :)
Alex has them in a sock under the bed. But if they aren't there in the morning the finger of suspicion will be pointing at you.