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Title: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 13, 2012, 09:59:15 AM
Dad is 86 and is about to become an In-Pensioner at the Royal Chelsea Hospital
For those who don't understand the siginificance of this (probably most of the under 25s) that means he'll look a lot like this on days he's in his full uniform
(http://www.ewell-probus.org.uk/past-visits/_chelsea4us.jpg)
and live here
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xNaxr5oHX68/TMk2sz-3b4I/AAAAAAAAAAQ/Z35Zq0mTbG8/s1600/Royal-Hospital-Chelsea.jpg)

He uses his computer daily, mostly for emails, storing photos and occasional searching for information (he used it to research applying to become a Chelsea Pensioner)

His eyesight is good for his age, but a big screen is pretty important.
He's fairly nimble fingered, but the keyboard needs to be fairly easy to use
He may be persuaded to start using skype so that he can chat to us and to my sister who lives in Canada.
He's not going to be multi-tabling 25NL, playing Call of Duty or watching videos from youpron

I don't enjoy having to pick stuff for myself, let alone for someone else so, anyone got any suggestions?

Budget is around £300-£350


Title: Re: Recommend a laptop for my Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on July 13, 2012, 10:19:24 AM
ipad?


Title: Re: Recommend a laptop for my Dad
Post by: Woodsey on July 13, 2012, 10:22:37 AM
ipad?

I'd be tempted to get the add on keyboard for him too as I can see it would be a bit fiddly for an old person, but that's not a bad shout and easy to use for the most part.


Title: Re: Recommend a laptop for my Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on July 13, 2012, 10:39:08 AM

You must be very proud of him.

Please give him my regards.


Title: Re: Recommend a laptop for my Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 13, 2012, 10:48:03 AM
Definitely not an ipad, although thanks for the suggestion

I tried him with mine, but even with the add-on keyboard I don't see it being his thing.

I'm incredibly proud of him, now I've got over the shock of him upping sticks and leaving the town he's lived in all his life.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 13, 2012, 12:25:03 PM
One of his Northampton friends took him to PC World and he's bought an ASUS

probably fine but of course they sold him MS Office and a wireless mouse to go with it...


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 13, 2012, 05:02:30 PM
What regiment was your dad in? Do they have to have at least made Sargent Major to be elligable to become a Chelsea Pensioner?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 13, 2012, 05:12:59 PM
Argyll n Sutherland Highlanders Jase.
No rank required - the eligibility rule is simply ex-serviceman, single'widowed/divorc ed these days. It used to be that you had to be in receipt of an Army Pension or Invalidity Payments, but that's not the case for Dad.
There's around 400 In-Pensioners, many of them over 90, some over 100 and there is, as you'd imagine, a fairly high turnover. Padre said he's done 400+ funerals in 10 years...
It's a very simple life and not all would find it attractive. But Dad is over the moon and impatient to be there now. His move is on the day after my Day1 in GP VII - it's going to make for a severe lack of sleep for me over the Sunday / Monday but all worthwhile


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 13, 2012, 05:26:01 PM
Argyll n Sutherland Highlanders Jase.
No rank required - the eligibility rule is simply ex-serviceman, single'widowed/divorc ed these days. It used to be that you had to be in receipt of an Army Pension or Invalidity Payments, but that's not the case for Dad.
There's around 400 In-Pensioners, many of them over 90, some over 100 and there is, as you'd imagine, a fairly high turnover. Padre said he's done 400+ funerals in 10 years...
It's a very simple life and not all would find it attractive. But Dad is over the moon and impatient to be there now. His move is on the day after my Day1 in GP VII - it's going to make for a severe lack of sleep for me over the Sunday / Monday but all worthwhile
Fml just read first line and my grandad was in the same reg which was strange because he was a cockney. Sadly he has passed away but gonna ask my old man who also did 22+ years.

My grandad suffered from Alzheimer's and everytime I went to see him we would talk about WW II and then after that he went onto serve in India. My grandad would have been 91 this year and shows what a small world it is.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 14, 2012, 03:39:30 PM
It is indeed a small world (still wouldn't want to paint it though)
What was your granddad's name Jase? I'll mention it to dad, would be pretty spooky if they knew each other.
Luckily, dad's still very much compos mentis. One of the things the medic did when he had his assessment was tell him an address at the start of the process then ask for it at the end, around 20 minutes later.
He never talked to us about the war, and I suspect he's not going to start now, but he is still proud of his Argyll's connection, despite being a Northamptonian through and through.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 14, 2012, 04:11:40 PM
My grandad was called Jim Herbert and I think he boxed for the reg as he was known as "Rocky" and i have a picture of him with the gloves on. I don't know how unusual it is to find a cockney in the reg as I would have thought the majority would have been scots. I know my dad was a drill instructor and I think my grandad may have been too so even tho he was a few years older they could have easily crossed paths.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Geo the Sarge on July 14, 2012, 04:33:00 PM
My grandad was called Jim Herbert and I think he boxed for the reg as he was known as "Rocky" and i have a picture of him with the gloves on. I don't know how unusual it is to find a cockney in the reg as I would have thought the majority would have been scots. I know my dad was a drill instructor and I think my grandad may have been too so even tho he was a few years older they could have easily crossed paths.

It has always been quite common for Scots regiments to have English within the ranks. The Black Watch attracted a lot of Englishmen for some reason, may have been historic links of forebears being originally from Scotland.

For infantry regiments it was commonplace to have many members of the same family serving. My son and I served together along with a nephew.

Sadly the demise of the local regiments and their integration into these "super" regiments has lessened the tradition of family members following on.

Geo


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 14, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
My grandad was called Jim Herbert and I think he boxed for the reg as he was known as "Rocky" and i have a picture of him with the gloves on. I don't know how unusual it is to find a cockney in the reg as I would have thought the majority would have been scots. I know my dad was a drill instructor and I think my grandad may have been too so even tho he was a few years older they could have easily crossed paths.

It has always been quite common for Scots regiments to have English within the ranks. The Black Watch attracted a lot of Englishmen for some reason, may have been historic links of forebears being originally from Scotland.

For infantry regiments it was commonplace to have many members of the same family serving. My son and I served together along with a nephew.

Sadly the demise of the local regiments and their integration into these "super" regiments has lessened the tradition of family members following on.

Geo


Plus, when my dad joined up, there was a war on...

Tne Argylls are now just a part of The Scottish Regiment, but their plaid lives on as that chosen for the regiment. One of my early tasks once dad was on his way to becoming an In-Pensionef was to source an appropriate stable belt and I learnt a little history in the process


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: ScottMGee on July 14, 2012, 11:28:55 PM
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Argyll n Sutherland Highlanders

My Late Grandad's regiment! (he fought at El Alamein)

Wer'e off to Stirling Castle (home of the regimental museum) next month.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 14, 2012, 11:32:22 PM
Quote
Argyll n Sutherland Highlanders

My Late Grandad's regiment! (he fought at El Alamein)

Wer'e off to Stirling Castle (home of the regimental museum) next month.
Sounds cool. Wish I knew a lot more about their history. Gonna sit down and have a chat about the army with my old man before its too late


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: ScottMGee on July 15, 2012, 12:09:18 AM
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Sounds cool. Wish I knew a lot more about their history. Gonna sit down and have a chat about the army with my old man before its too late

How about asking your Dad to request your grandad's service record? Nearest relatives are supposed to ask for this. This gives very basic information, i.e. which regiments he served in, where he was posted, disclipinary record!, etc.

Also, consider taping / videoing your chats with your Dad about the War.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Karabiner on July 15, 2012, 12:34:50 AM
I wish your dad all the best David and look forward to further updates.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 17, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
My grandad was called Jim Herbert and I think he boxed for the reg as he was known as "Rocky" and i have a picture of him with the gloves on. I don't know how unusual it is to find a cockney in the reg as I would have thought the majority would have been scots. I know my dad was a drill instructor and I think my grandad may have been too so even tho he was a few years older they could have easily crossed paths.

Quote
Argyll n Sutherland Highlanders

My Late Grandad's regiment! (he fought at El Alamein)

Wer'e off to Stirling Castle (home of the regimental museum) next month.

I asked Dad if he knew Jim 'Rocky' Herbert and no, he didn't Jase. He was 2nd Battalion apparently and only served in Europe so I guess he wouldn't have met Scott's Granddad either.

He made a trip to Stirling Castle some years ago and enjoyed it very much. The lady who runs the shop there was very helpful when I was sourcing an Argyll Tartan Stable Belt for him to wear as an In-Pensioner. they don't sell them, but she pointed me in exactly the right direction.

He's in his last week as a civilian now, and spending it saying farewell for now to his Northampton friends and family. Outings; teas; dinners all being lined up for him through the week. By Monday he may need to start dieting for weight loss. Two years ago he was having to put weight on following his triple bypass.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: hector62 on July 17, 2012, 11:28:14 AM
That last paragraph makes it sound like he's off to prison. Could you elaborate on what this actually entails and what they do with their days there?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 17, 2012, 11:46:27 AM
This is great stuff mate. I bet he has some great stories to tell. Maybe you could get him to do a diary on blonde :)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 17, 2012, 12:43:43 PM
My information on the life of an In-Pensioner is still somewhat limited, but I'll update as I discover more and see if it's of interest to others.

It's definitely not a prison, it's more like being back in the Army. But with a lot less drill and bull.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Geo the Sarge on July 17, 2012, 08:16:19 PM
My information on the life of an In-Pensioner is still somewhat limited, but I'll update as I discover more and see if it's of interest to others.

It's definitely not a prison, it's more like being back in the Army. But with a lot less drill and bull.

The BBC done a documetary in 2006 within the hospital, not on Iplayer but the DVD of the series can be bought from the shop at RHC

http://www.chelsea-pensioners.co.uk/once-a-solider

I wish your dad the very best in his 2nd "career."

A friend of mine was the permanant staff RSM there a couple of years back and by all accounts loved every minute of his time there

Geo


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 17, 2012, 08:19:32 PM
My information on the life of an In-Pensioner is still somewhat limited, but I'll update as I discover more and see if it's of interest to others.

It's definitely not a prison, it's more like being back in the Army. But with a lot less drill and bull.

The BBC done a documetary in 2006 within the hospital, not on Iplayer but the DVD of the series can be bought from the shop at RHC

http://www.chelsea-pensioners.co.uk/once-a-solider

I wish your dad the very best in his 2nd "career."

A friend of mine was the permanant staff RSM there a couple of years back and by all accounts loved every minute of his time there

Geo


It was watching a recent repeat of that documentary that set my Dad on the route to where he is now.

I spent a day with him when he had his assessment visit, it seems a very sociable life with few worries


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on July 18, 2012, 08:35:16 AM
Nice post.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Laxie on July 18, 2012, 08:39:04 AM
What a great place!  Officially on my 'to do' list now, cheers.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: hector62 on July 18, 2012, 09:40:45 AM
My research has found that they now accept women in too. Really does sound a fascinating place. We definitely need this to become another diary.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 18, 2012, 10:11:59 AM
Really great post jjandellis - thanks

The whole place was designed by Wren, including the Long Wards
(http://www.chelsea-pensioners.co.uk/retrieve/11dfc7df45752a110c475c9639b8ac6c)

Each In-Pensioner has his own berth and the table and chairs opposite are also there for their use.

The In-Pensioner is issued with a full set of uniform. Including everything down to socks and shoes (although not underwear) plus two bath towels. They are required to be in uniform whilst on site, but the famous Scarlet is generally reserved for wearing on special occasions or when acting as a tour guide.
Their iconic status means that many events invite them to be in attendance. When I visited there were lists up for all sorts of stuff, including a request from Chelsea Registry Office for two witnesses for an upcoming marriage. They obviously spend time at the Chelsea Flower Show and many other events held in the grounds. One party were off to Royal Ascot on the day the Queen would be there. This meant that they would be required to wear the Tricorn hat, which is only worn in the presence of royalty so the picture of the mobile battalion must have been taken on a Royal visit of some form.

There will be a contingent at the Olympics, including, I understand, some involvement in the opening ceremony. One of Dad's mentors in his four day visit is on that gig. He's a youngster in comparison to most and I got the impression that he has managed to opne many doors with his Scarlet coat on, and to have unlocked a few female hearts too.

The Infirmary was funded through donations after a campaign led by Maggie Thatcher, about whom nobody in the Royal Chelsea Hospital will hear a bad word. It has 125 rooms all with ensuite bathrooms and is very much state of the art.

There are two big events that involve parading each year.
Remembrance - both at the Royal Albert Hall and the Cenotaph. As a new arrival it is apparently likely that Dad will be involved in these. It's about everyone getting their opportunity.
Founders' Day, held as close to Oak Apple Day, (May 29th) as possible to commemorate Charles II the founder of this marvellous and historic institution.

That's him, all golden and magnificent at a Founders Day March (roll) Past.
(http://blogs.voanews.com/photos/files/2012/06/000_DV1193385AFP__EDITED_Britain_Pensioners_07JUN12-975x654.jpg)

I'm discovering a lot of this stuff on the hoof and it just gets more and more fascinating (for me at least).

I'll report back next week when he's officially in.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Laxie on July 18, 2012, 10:25:06 AM
Please do!  I really am enjoying your posts.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 18, 2012, 10:42:13 AM
Please do!  I really am enjoying your posts.
+1. Carry on guys. This stuff is excellent reading and I hope some of the young lads come by this thread and have a read.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on July 18, 2012, 10:49:19 AM
Please do!  I really am enjoying your posts.
+1. Carry on guys. This stuff is excellent reading and I hope some of the young lads come by this thread and have a read.

I'm reading innit.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 18, 2012, 11:27:11 AM
Please do!  I really am enjoying your posts.
+1


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 18, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
http://blackcablondon.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/view-from-mirror.html

A short piece which shows how well respected these guys are in London.

One of the more established guys told us that whenever he flies he turns up at the airport in his Scarlet and has been upgraded more often than not.
Dad's off to Canada later this year to visit my sister - he's already made the decision to play that card.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 21, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
Well, Monday is the big day. I'm off to Northampton in the morning to load up the stuff he's taking with him before heading up to DTD for what I hope will be a full 15 levels plus breaks before driving back and grabbing what sleep I can on an airbed.
Then it's up and away with a planned arrival at The Royal Hospital Chelsea some time between 10.30 and 11.30. I loathe driving in London, but the route is pretty simple and I guess the traffic will be such that decisions can be made slowly.
Dad has been allocated a berth and we'll be met by Clive, the Intake Sergeant at the gates on Hospital Road. Porters will be present to assist with the move in and I suspect that I will be encouraged to leave pretty much as soon as the car has been emptied. A bit like when you take your child to school for their first day.
It's all rather surreal in it's way, the idea that Dad would do this only cropped up about 10 weeks ago and here we are making it happen.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 21, 2012, 05:55:14 PM
Well, Monday is the big day. I'm off to Northampton in the morning to load up the stuff he's taking with him before heading up to DTD for what I hope will be a full 15 levels plus breaks before driving back and grabbing what sleep I can on an airbed.
Then it's up and away with a planned arrival at The Royal Hospital Chelsea some time between 10.30 and 11.30. I loathe driving in London, but the route is pretty simple and I guess the traffic will be such that decisions can be made slowly.
Dad has been allocated a berth and we'll be met by Clive, the Intake Sergeant at the gates on Hospital Road. Porters will be present to assist with the move in and I suspect that I will be encouraged to leave pretty much as soon as the car has been emptied. A bit like when you take your child to school for their first day.
It's all rather surreal in it's way, the idea that Dad would do this only cropped up about 10 weeks ago and here we are making it happen.
Good luck today and monday


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 21, 2012, 06:14:39 PM
Well, Monday is the big day. I'm off to Northampton in the morning to load up the stuff he's taking with him before heading up to DTD for what I hope will be a full 15 levels plus breaks before driving back and grabbing what sleep I can on an airbed.
Then it's up and away with a planned arrival at The Royal Hospital Chelsea some time between 10.30 and 11.30. I loathe driving in London, but the route is pretty simple and I guess the traffic will be such that decisions can be made slowly.
Dad has been allocated a berth and we'll be met by Clive, the Intake Sergeant at the gates on Hospital Road. Porters will be present to assist with the move in and I suspect that I will be encouraged to leave pretty much as soon as the car has been emptied. A bit like when you take your child to school for their first day.
It's all rather surreal in it's way, the idea that Dad would do this only cropped up about 10 weeks ago and here we are making it happen.
Good luck today and monday

tomorrow and monday, but thanks Jase. See you at DTD tomorrow?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 21, 2012, 06:22:51 PM
Well, Monday is the big day. I'm off to Northampton in the morning to load up the stuff he's taking with him before heading up to DTD for what I hope will be a full 15 levels plus breaks before driving back and grabbing what sleep I can on an airbed.
Then it's up and away with a planned arrival at The Royal Hospital Chelsea some time between 10.30 and 11.30. I loathe driving in London, but the route is pretty simple and I guess the traffic will be such that decisions can be made slowly.
Dad has been allocated a berth and we'll be met by Clive, the Intake Sergeant at the gates on Hospital Road. Porters will be present to assist with the move in and I suspect that I will be encouraged to leave pretty much as soon as the car has been emptied. A bit like when you take your child to school for their first day.
It's all rather surreal in it's way, the idea that Dad would do this only cropped up about 10 weeks ago and here we are making it happen.
Good luck today and monday

tomorrow and monday, but thanks Jase. See you at DTD tomorrow?
I am playing weds n Thursday mate. Have commitments for the next 4 days :(


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 21, 2012, 06:28:36 PM
Well, Monday is the big day. I'm off to Northampton in the morning to load up the stuff he's taking with him before heading up to DTD for what I hope will be a full 15 levels plus breaks before driving back and grabbing what sleep I can on an airbed.
Then it's up and away with a planned arrival at The Royal Hospital Chelsea some time between 10.30 and 11.30. I loathe driving in London, but the route is pretty simple and I guess the traffic will be such that decisions can be made slowly.
Dad has been allocated a berth and we'll be met by Clive, the Intake Sergeant at the gates on Hospital Road. Porters will be present to assist with the move in and I suspect that I will be encouraged to leave pretty much as soon as the car has been emptied. A bit like when you take your child to school for their first day.
It's all rather surreal in it's way, the idea that Dad would do this only cropped up about 10 weeks ago and here we are making it happen.
Good luck today and monday

tomorrow and monday, but thanks Jase. See you at DTD tomorrow?
I am playing weds n Thursday mate. Have commitments for the next 4 days :(

See you next Saturday then :)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 24, 2012, 10:18:59 PM
He's in!
Already has a 'Scarlet', but just as an interim because every In-Pensioner gets one made to measure for them.

I've taken a few pictures, but no time to upload them since I've spent today clearing his house and rushing up to DTD to have a third bullet at the GP.

I'll post more tomorrow, but in the meantime ....

As we were packing stuff into boxes ready to be put into the car Dad attempted to get some of the framed pictures from the top of the bookshelf.
He caught his foot on one of the boxes on the floor and slowly allowed gravity to take it's course as I and my daughter watched on in horror.
His head struck the side of the bookcase a glancing blow and, to add just a soupçon of amusement one of the photo's fell, seemingly in slow motion onto the top of his head.

I wasn't looking forward to having to call the Royal Hospital to tell them he was going to be delayed and need a berth in the MTI, but luckily he was unhurt. Other than a bruising to his pride.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 25, 2012, 03:48:49 AM
You wrote this whilst playing. Gl saturday


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 25, 2012, 12:36:34 PM
You wrote this whilst playing. Gl saturday

I had a lot of free time last night in between being dealt hands worth playing. Total ABC stuff, get a hand, find a way to get paid for the most part.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 25, 2012, 12:49:06 PM
You wrote this whilst playing. Gl saturday

I had a lot of free time last night in between being dealt hands worth playing. Total ABC stuff, get a hand, find a way to get paid for the most part.
Lol now you are rubbing my nose in it. Mr never behind and still makes a royal flush and flop AJJ with AJ v KJ and had to somehow find a way of getting paid. You make me sick. Pleasure to be in your company tho :)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 25, 2012, 01:38:48 PM
Dad has a berth in West Wing, the berths have no windows, but were it not for the tree you'd be able to see the window opposite his berth on the third floor.

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/Dad/2012-07-23122745.jpg)

The berths on the third floor are marginally smaller than the 9' x 9' of most, this is the view from as close as I could get to the wall

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/Dad/2012-07-23165745.jpg)

and this is how full the back of the car was..

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/Dad/2012-07-23081707.jpg)

all of that found a home in the berth

This is the view from that window I mentioned

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/Dad/2012-07-23141212.jpg)

Apologies for the picture quality - all taken on the phone due to me being the forgetful one.

Monday was a long day for Dad so he'd gone to bed fairly early having set his new alarm clock for 0630. Note, his new alarm clock.
The alarm duly went off and Dad rose and wandered down the corridor to have his shave and wash. He was a touch surprised that the water wasn't particularly hot, but carried on like the old soldier he is.
Returning to his berth he noticed that the clock that used to sit on the mantel piece at home had obviously been knocked in transit since it showed the time as being 1125...
It was only then that he realised that it was rather dark for 0630 in mid-July and checked his wrtistwatch...

Needless to say he slept fitfully after that since on that specific morning he was required to be up and ready by 0650.

I understand he slept very well last night  :)

Today he's off to 'have a roll up' with the Bowls Team. They play home and away matches with civvy clubs around the country and beyond. Apparently they tend to come second in head to head matches, but have a thoroughly enjoyable time doing so. Dad's already got his name down for an away trip to Seaford Bowling Club in Eastbourne next week.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: flushthemout on July 25, 2012, 06:06:31 PM
hope he settles in well Dave


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 27, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
hope he settles in well Dave

he's settling in really well Mike thanks. See you Saturday..

Yesterday he was out on Royal Hospital Road watching one of his fellow In-Pensioners carrying the Olympic Torch. A first chance to be out in his Scarlet which he was proud to take.

He popped along to have a look at the gym and is now signed up there and was given a chitty to take to the QM for a tracksuit. 2 t-shirts and a pair of trainers to be issued. The level of care and support is unbelievable.

They have an onsite chiropodist too, who gave him a thorough check up (extra care due to his diabetes).

On top of all of this we managed to achieve an absolute first on Wednesday when I rang his mobile phone and not only was it switched on, but he actually answered it!
He's had a mobile for 10 yrs, but only ever switched it on when he wanted to call someone on it.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: hector62 on July 28, 2012, 09:18:31 AM
I bet it was on because he was texting some of the 6 women in there.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 29, 2012, 11:32:12 AM
I bet it was on because he was texting some of the 6 women in there.

Nahh, he's old school and will do it face to face...


We met one of the six last Monday and she had apparently announced on arrival that she wanted to be called Bimbo because she'd been known as that throughout her career in the RMC.
Seemed pretty much one of the lads did Bimbo, but there have been sufficient issues over the female intake to cause a hiatus in admitting more. The facilities weren't designed with them in mind and the return to a male only intake policy will last for 5 years or more.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 29, 2012, 01:30:59 PM
Best of luck today


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 29, 2012, 02:32:58 PM
Best of luck today

Thanks Jase, but this is not my diary :-)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on July 29, 2012, 02:34:42 PM
Best of luck today

Thanks Jase, but this is not my diary :-)
:)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on August 05, 2012, 05:22:03 PM
Just sat at my dads having a BBQ.  Grandad was inthe 51st he believes and was shot at Caan just after D day. On recovering he went out to India training up the Indian army. He was present at Ghandi's funeral then returned home. He left the army for a couple of years and in 52 joined the artillery and moved to Scunthorpe to be PSi at the drill hall in Scunthorpe.

In jan 59 at the age of 15 my dad joined up and became a Royal Engineer at 18 in 62. So interesting talking to my dad. In the late 60's as Ghaddafi started coming to power in "the bloodless coup" he was out with a detachment training the Libyan army in demolitions. This was west of Benghazi at a place called Bomba?? Bay which was originally a German  air strip  during the war. One morning he shows up to work and the guys who he trained had been ordered to turn him and everyone else telling them they were no longer needed. Obviously tense times as there were also some RAF boys with families out there . The foreign office ordered everyone up to An airport known as El Adame to be evacuated and just as dad was about to board a a BOAC Comet he was told he would not be flying out. It was considered too much of a risk to leave the compound with all the munitions etc and he would be needed to return with a group of 4 special services guys to take care of it.

As he had first hand knowledge and he said the task was completed without a hitch and all ended well. In the later years his expertise was building bridges instead of blowing stuff up.

Thanks to this thread as withot it I would never had known about this stuff :)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on August 05, 2012, 05:26:42 PM
Cracking stuff Jase.

My Dad instalment today concerns the joys of configuring his new laptop via TeamViewer so that he can get to his email account. That was so much fun that I don't think I can write about it till the tears stop.

He's been out and about in London a few times now. Walked through St James Park yesterday in his Scarlet and thinks he had his photo taken about twenty times. He's never been one to have a fuss made of him, until now!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on August 05, 2012, 07:01:50 PM
My dads got some patience. Been showing the grandkids magic for the last half hour.

(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r631/smashedagain/99468865.jpg)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on August 15, 2012, 12:24:24 PM
Finally some photos of Dad in his Scarlet

Taken by the husband of the lady who Dad has his arm around, a lovely couple who dd a lot for Dad when he was recovering from his triple bypass two years ago. Alan, standing to the right of the picture was Dad's Best Friend from a very young age - they were Best Man at each other's weddings and the two couples spent a lot of time together over the years. Both Mum, and Alma have gone now, but unsurprisingly the two are still close.

Official photo's will come later once Dad's medals are shiny and cork-mounted.

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/Dad/Photo0301.jpg)

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/Dad/Photo0302.jpg)



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 15, 2012, 06:21:16 PM
Great pics David.

For info, the term is "court mounted"

usually the preffered option these days as it prolongs the ribbon life and also prevents any annoyance of "jangling"

Common perception is that it was introduced by Queen Victoria after she had not been able to sleep due to the jangling of the medals of soldiers on sentry duty.

It appears that only regiments performing "Royal duties" like Buck Palace sentry etc were entitled to court mount and in fact for many years it was predominantly only the Guards/Household division regiments who had this done.

On my first stint as part of the Royal Guard at Balmoral in 1980 we all had to submit our medals to the tailor to have this done.

Looking through various pieces it appears it is now a personal choice whetner to have them court mounted or not, however I suspect any regiment will determine to their soldiers whether they are worn court mounted or not.

I once done sentry duty at the Palace of HolyroodHouse wearing slippers after 6 O'clock in the evening due to the sentry path being on gravel and too much noise being produced from the well segged brogues.

0810. Medals (Including Badges of The 4th And 5th Classes of Orders and Decorations Worn as Medals)

h. Court Mounting. Medals may also be worn court mounted. In this method the ribands are mounted on a frame of which the lower edge is in line with the centre of the medals. Commencing from the lower edge of the frame each riband runs over the upper edge and down to the ring of the medal. The medals are stitched down to the ribands. Court mounted medals may also be overlapped however, personnel with 7 or more court mounted medals should always wear them overlapped. Individuals with 6 or more medals may have them court mounted at crown expense. Personnel with 5 or less medals who wish to have them court mounted may do so at their own personal expense.


Geo


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on August 16, 2012, 08:39:50 AM
Thanks for all of that Geo.
This forum is such a fabulous resource, it really should get government funding.

Dad's settling in really well, yesterday he had his second run out in the Bowls Team, and he's just discovered that he has Sky Sports available to watch in his berth so he's very happy with that.

On the football front, obviously the In-Pensioners get tickets for games at Stamford Bridge and he can put his name in for one of those when Manchester United are there, but he's not too bothered about seeing Chelsea otherwise. So, one of his friend's, the photographer here, wrote to OT and explained his position. Longterm supporter, 86, Chelsea Pensioner etc. Would they have capacity to find him tickets for games at other London grounds? Well, that was a long shot, but MUFC have offered a choice from a selection of home games, Dad+1, full hospitality package including meal. None of the major games, but a decent offer nonetheless.

I'm seeing him tomorrow at a family funeral in Northampton. He's getting the train, using one of the I-P's rail passes to travel First Class. The benefits of life at he RHC just keep coming.




Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on August 16, 2012, 08:56:16 AM
Nice touch from old Trafford. Wal



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on October 16, 2012, 01:40:14 PM
My youngest decided to go on a road trip last week and included a visit to RCH to see her Gramps.
She's pretty 'challenged' by navigational tasks at the best of times and my heart sank when she suggested that she'd be driving through London from Bedford, but when she said she was borrowing a tomtom I thought all would be well...
So it came as a bit of a surprise to be told that she'd parked the car at Epping and got the train into London.
Not sure how you get to Epping having joined the M1 just south of Bedford with a view to driving down the Edgeware Road...
anyways, she was in Epping, spotted a station and eventually got to Marble Arch and askled for directions to RCH.
A bus was suggested, but she couldn't find one that bore the recommended number. So she did the sensible thing and rang Gramps who told her to get a taxi, ask the driver to take her to London Gate and he would meet her.
The meter read £6.20 and Lucy was about to pay when Dad appeared and proffered a tenner to the cabbie, saying 'take £7'.
The cabbie not only refused the tip, he only took £6.
Only 20p, but it all adds up

Add it to the free tea in Fortnum & Masons tearooms last week; the reduced price theatre tickets he's been getting (Singing in the Rain; Billy Elliott; A Chorus of Disapproval, all since he got back from Canada); the discounts he gets on all sorts of stuff locally; and the goodwill that just washes over all the In-Pensioners and it is a good life he's leading.

Did I mention he'd spent four weeks in Canada? Visiting my sister on Vancouver Island. Wendy went out there in 1973 and this would have been around his twentieth visit - quite sad really, the thought that he was doing everything for the last time there. But he's back and fully in the swing, and really enjoying his new life.

He's even going to be on TV - he's one of the In-Pensioners who will be at The Albert Hall for the Service of Remembrance in November; and at the Cenotaph on the Eleventh.

Netx weekend there's this..

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20121008_085519.jpg)

Manchester United v Stoke City...

Car parking; champagne and canapies pre-match; free bar (wasted on my teetotal Dad and I'm driving...); four course meal; programme; top seats on the halfway line; post match food and drinks...

He's also got tickets for Stamford Bridge when United are there the following Sunday - what a life!






Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: leethefish on October 16, 2012, 05:30:14 PM
Nice


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on October 17, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
It's great that he is enjoying these perks. We don't give our service men the gratitude that they deserve in this country.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on October 17, 2012, 09:35:26 AM
It's great that he is enjoying these perks. We don't give our service men the gratitude that they deserve in this country.



(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2010/11/5/1288953899732/Collecting-for-the-Royal--006.jpg)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on October 22, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
In through the Directors Entrance

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20121021OTatDirectorsEntrance.jpg)

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20121021OTindsideDirectorsEntrance.jpg)

Champagne; canapes; meal; magician; a quick word with Jimmy Greenhoff (very quick - he made reference to having to wear a red coat when he was captain of his local golf club, Dad said "This is scarlet, not red", Jimmy moved on...); great seats

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20121020_144203.jpg)

and that Scarlet coat is a real babe magnet

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20121021OTwithfriend.jpg)


the 4-2 win was about fair, we could have had a lot, they should have been two up before we scored

A great day out, thank you Manchester United.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: TightEnd on October 22, 2012, 12:57:19 PM
Excellent photos!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: technolog on October 22, 2012, 02:41:18 PM
Fantastic - love this thread.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on October 22, 2012, 02:44:31 PM
Excellent photos!

even Tikay could take good pics of a man in The Scarlet Tunic

Fantastic - love this thread.

Thanks.

I saw him onto the train back to Kings Cross this morning at 10.25 and he was back at The Hospital by 13.35. Time for a quick cup of tea and then off for his first Rehearsal Parade for the Royal Albert Hall gig.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: horseplayer on October 22, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
really really enjoy this thread

thanks


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: aaron1867 on October 22, 2012, 05:58:00 PM
Enjoyable pictures and write-ups David.

Hope all is well.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: BorntoBubble on October 22, 2012, 06:10:33 PM
Really nice stories hear. Proud that united were so kind and nice to see there are kind people in London looking after him!

Please just make sure he has a good nights rest and is in good voice on Sunday. Hope he can will us on to victory!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on November 30, 2012, 01:46:58 PM
Too long since I updated here and a lot to tell.
Dad was amongst the cadre of In-Pensioners who marched in at the Annual Festival of Remembrance held at The Royal Albert Hall. The tiVo box was set to record and we caught just a small glimpse of him marching down the steps and across the arena. He was 'wrong side' for the cameras at that stage, but he did feature for a while during the hymn singing as the cameras lingered on those Scarlet clad old fellas (and one female).
They rehearsed in the RCH for the most part. The stairs in the Wards are very similar in depth and rise to those at the Albert Hall. Daily rehearsals there for two weeks and then a rehearsal in situ on Friday and again on Saturday morning, followed by two performances.
On the Sunday he was in the march past at the Cenotaph and again only visible for an odd moment.
They formed up for that march at 9.45 and set off just after eleven. When I spoke to him on the afternoon he was, understandably, tired.

He's started going to a dance class/group near to the Hospital and, through that, has also joined a singing group. Yesterday he was out on his first performance with them. They sing all the old stuff apparently, lots of swing and similar.

Oh, and when I get the photo through you'll see the celebrity circles he now mixes in. He was having tea at The Ritz, something he's discovered as a pleasant way to pass the time and a lady, famous by any measure, sent across to ask if she could have a picture with him.

Have a guess - she's a touch younger than he, has been performing for over 60 yrs and pretty much lives at The Ritz apparently


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: TightEnd on November 30, 2012, 01:54:53 PM
Joan Collins, David?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on November 30, 2012, 02:06:52 PM
Joan Collins, David?

Not Joan Collins


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: ripple11 on November 30, 2012, 02:23:03 PM

Great thread!

....Sophia Loren?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on November 30, 2012, 02:29:47 PM
Not Sophia Loren

although again the age is very much in the right area


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on December 04, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
Too long since I updated here and a lot to tell.
Dad was amongst the cadre of In-Pensioners who marched in at the Annual Festival of Remembrance held at The Royal Albert Hall. The tiVo box was set to record and we caught just a small glimpse of him marching down the steps and across the arena. He was 'wrong side' for the cameras at that stage, but he did feature for a while during the hymn singing as the cameras lingered on those Scarlet clad old fellas (and one female).
They rehearsed in the RCH for the most part. The stairs in the Wards are very similar in depth and rise to those at the Albert Hall. Daily rehearsals there for two weeks and then a rehearsal in situ on Friday and again on Saturday morning, followed by two performances.
On the Sunday he was in the march past at the Cenotaph and again only visible for an odd moment.
They formed up for that march at 9.45 and set off just after eleven. When I spoke to him on the afternoon he was, understandably, tired.

He's started going to a dance class/group near to the Hospital and, through that, has also joined a singing group. Yesterday he was out on his first performance with them. They sing all the old stuff apparently, lots of swing and similar.

Oh, and when I get the photo through you'll see the celebrity circles he now mixes in. He was having tea at The Ritz, something he's discovered as a pleasant way to pass the time and a lady, famous by any measure, sent across to ask if she could have a picture with him.

Have a guess - she's a touch younger than he, has been performing for over 60 yrs and pretty much lives at The Ritz apparently

It seems likely that Dad has given the wrong email address to his celebrity admirer and so the photographic evidence may never arriver.

Shame - for this is she
(http://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/images/joan-rivers-pic_277x319.jpg)



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on December 04, 2012, 01:45:42 PM
Wow. Unlucky tighty, just hit the post with his answer. Not suprised by the celebrity by any means. Think I may have already posted itt how much more respect Americans have for their servicemen and women.

We are grateful for your service. :)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on December 10, 2012, 04:01:02 PM
Blonde inspires!
A sequence of posts on the 'Things that p*** you off' thread led me to look for a picture of Dad at the Remembrance Day Parade

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/RemembranceDayParade.jpg)

He's the second from the right in the foreground (not the beardy guy in the background)



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RedFox on December 10, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
Hi David

Just read this thread and loved it.

Best wishes to him.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on December 18, 2012, 10:16:30 AM
Blonde inspires!
A sequence of posts on the 'Things that p*** you off' thread led me to look for a picture of Dad at the Remembrance Day Parade

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/RemembranceDayParade.jpg)

He's the second from the right in the foreground (not the beardy guy in the background)



Embarrassing moment #33578

Dad is in that picture - well, he is in that group of In-Pensioners, but he's not visible.

 ;ashamed; ;ashamed; ;ashamed;


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on December 31, 2012, 09:38:17 AM
Dad came up for a few days this week. He opted to have Christmas Day and Boxing Day at the RHC and travelled up on the train on Thursday, thus avoiding the mayhem which ensues on December 25th in a house containing five children.

He mentioned in passing that next year he quite fancied staying in the Methodist owned hotel near Robin Hood's Bay...
At least I thought it was mentioned in passing...
Twenty minutes later I have my iPad on my lap, we're looking at the website and trying to check prices and failing because the dates are a long way ahead or some such reason.
Ten minutes more and we've called them and booked it.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on January 08, 2013, 12:45:50 PM
16.07 yesterday - my phone lights up with the news that Dad is calling.

Turning to my pc as I answer the call I'm already opening Teamviewer to assist.

Pleasantries exchanged Dad says "Some of the other guys have got office chairs and I was going to go with one of them to have a look at some, but he's not free till next week"

"Oh. What sort of chair"

"A high backed one - I found one online. A Cadiz Managers Hiigh Back chair. It's £65, but I think that's got VAT to go on."

"Oh"

"What do you think?" The answer to this question is patently redundant, but I ask if he's tried one and obviously he has. I say stuff about 'getting what you pay for in terms of durability, but this is Dad I'm talking to...

So I search for and find the page he's looking at and by 16.30 it's ordered and paid for with free delivery by Wednesday


Lord, grant me patience and make it


SOON!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Mohican on January 08, 2013, 12:58:11 PM
16.07 yesterday - my phone lights up with the news that Dad is calling.

Turning to my pc as I answer the call I'm already opening Teamviewer to assist.

Pleasantries exchanged Dad says "Some of the other guys have got office chairs and I was going to go with one of them to have a look at some, but he's not free till next week"

"Oh. What sort of chair"

"A high backed one - I found one online. A Cadiz Managers Hiigh Back chair. It's £65, but I think that's got VAT to go on."

"Oh"

"What do you think?" The answer to this question is patently redundant, but I ask if he's tried one and obviously he has. I say stuff about 'getting what you pay for in terms of durability, but this is Dad I'm talking to...

So I search for and find the page he's looking at and by 16.30 it's ordered and paid for with free delivery by Wednesday


Lord, grant me patience and make it


SOON!

Seems your Dad still has all his wits about him. VWP impatient Dad.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: The Camel on January 08, 2013, 01:02:06 PM
Blonde inspires!
A sequence of posts on the 'Things that p*** you off' thread led me to look for a picture of Dad at the Remembrance Day Parade

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/RemembranceDayParade.jpg)

He's the second from the right in the foreground (not the beardy guy in the background)



Embarrassing moment #33578

Dad is in that picture - well, he is in that group of In-Pensioners, but he's not visible.

 ;ashamed; ;ashamed; ;ashamed;


I didn't know there were female Chelsea Pensioners too!

(I'm assuming the one on the left is a woman!)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on January 08, 2013, 02:11:28 PM
Blonde inspires!
A sequence of posts on the 'Things that p*** you off' thread led me to look for a picture of Dad at the Remembrance Day Parade

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/RemembranceDayParade.jpg)

He's the second from the right in the foreground (not the beardy guy in the background)



Embarrassing moment #33578

Dad is in that picture - well, he is in that group of In-Pensioners, but he's not visible.

 ;ashamed; ;ashamed; ;ashamed;


I didn't know there were female Chelsea Pensioners too!

(I'm assuming the one on the left is a woman!)

There are a few, a very small few, but there won't be any more for a while.

Females were admitted as an 'equality' thing in 2009, but it seems that once in, some of them decided that they wanted an Animal Farm type of equality.

The facilities they were seeking can't be provided as the buildings currently exist so the admission of females has been suspended until such time as they can be accomodated in suitable style.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on January 16, 2013, 03:42:32 PM
Today, Father joined the Victory Services Club
http://www.vsc.co.uk/


Quote
"The Victory Services Club (VSC) is a prestigious Private Members Club for retired and serving members of the Armed Forces, located at Marble Arch in the heart of London's West End, a 2 minute walk from Oxford Street."

They have 192 bedrooms available through members at costs from as low as £46.50 incl a full English Breakfast and these are available to guests of members so will be good for me and wife when we go down and for my Sister when she comes over from Canada in the Summer. She's confirmed some dates now which will mean she's here for Founders Day in June.

(http://calendarcustoms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Chelsea-Founders-Day.jpg)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on January 16, 2013, 03:49:01 PM
Love this thread. To they have any pensioners from ethnic backgrounds?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on January 17, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
Love this thread. To they have any pensioners from ethnic backgrounds?

I haven't seen any in my couple of visits Jason, which isn't to say they aren't there, but an extensive trawl through google images failed to find any.

Most of the current In Pensioners were born before the era of mass immigration so it's not so surprising. There's may also be a cultural issue too with the ethnic minority ex-soldiers being more likely to have extended family support?

Pretty much all of the catering and domestic staff I've seen are from African or Afro-Caribbean backgrounds though. They are all smiles and chuckles too.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on January 17, 2013, 10:38:53 AM
Yes I have never seen any at all. I wondered if there had been any Gurkhas or Indians who had served.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on February 16, 2013, 08:43:33 AM
Shockingly i haven't visited Dad since he moved in. He's been up to us a couple of times, for the trip to OT and for Christmas, but I haven't been down. Until today.
I'm currently en route from Darlington to Kings Cross, via a change at Doncaster that I obviously didn't notice when I was booking the ticket on Monday evening. £56.25 for this leg of the journey, plus £14 to park the car. Couldn't drive it for much less than that and journey times don't come close.
We're having Lunch in The Dining Hall and doing whatever Dad fancies in the afternoon. I want to check out the cyber cafe so that I have a better chance of resolving IT issues for him when he's in there, and I will give his laptop a sweep. Otherwise, weather dependent we shall fill a few hours and then I'll leave him to go check into the VSC (see earlier post for details) before seeking out the Legendary Mr J G C Black in his London haunts. A beer or two with John and maybe sit in one of the smaller games in whichever venue we find ourselves in.
Sunday Lunch with Dad then train home with a planned stop in Peterborough to pick up my eldest Granddaughter for the last leg home.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: smashedagain on February 16, 2013, 10:17:06 AM
Please sit in a game with John. Need a psych evaluation plz. :)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: blueace on February 17, 2013, 10:44:12 AM
Today, Father joined the Victory Services Club
http://www.vsc.co.uk/


Quote
"The Victory Services Club (VSC) is a prestigious Private Members Club for retired and serving members of the Armed Forces, located at Marble Arch in the heart of London's West End, a 2 minute walk from Oxford Street."

They have 192 bedrooms available through members at costs from as low as £46.50 incl a full English Breakfast and these are available to guests of members so will be good for me and wife when we go down and for my Sister when she comes over from Canada in the Summer. She's confirmed some dates now which will mean she's here for Founders Day in June.

(http://calendarcustoms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Chelsea-Founders-Day.jpg)


Loving this thread David, have been a bridge visitor since the 70's and was always fascinated by the pensioners. My old man uses the vsc as his second home, which is great cos its over the road from the Vic. :)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on February 17, 2013, 10:55:43 AM


 My old man uses the vsc as his second home, which is great cos its over the road from the Vic. :)

It is indeed ;)

My bed didn't get a lot of use.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on February 18, 2013, 03:24:21 PM
My weekend trip to visit Dad worked out rather well.
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20130217_105945_zps9c2756c1.jpg)

Arrived at the RHC in time to have lunch in the Dining Hall. My third or fourth meal in there and as ever the food is good, if a little institutional. Lamb casserole with some mash and peas was very tasty and the treacle sponge with custard was excellent.
Sorted Dad's PC - the hospital have set up a new wifi system which has some minor irritations in that the logon page has no security certificate which means a warning message is generated every time, but as they point out, the cost of getting that certification is a cost they don't feel the need to expend.
We went through the process of transferring pictures from his digital camera into Windows Live Photo and then how to send them via email. The auto clicks on Windows Live wanted to send them via email wanted a Windows Live account but I managed to find a work around and now anticipate lots of calls as he becomes accustomed to the process, and lots of photos being sent as tests.

A bus ride up to the VSC to drop my bags and have a look at the place was fun. Dad obviously has a Pensioners Bus Pass, I had to pay and had zero change...
Got there though.
Back to Chelsea on the bus again, this time better prepared and then a walk round Ranelagh Gardens which are part of the RHC estate and a very pleasant 'park in miniature'. Lots of snowdrops covering the banks and even some daffodils already in bloom. Apparently, in summer, the grass is covered by au pairs and nannies and attracts many of the In-Pensioners to the many benches surrounding the grass...

I had tea with dad and then left him for the evening and wen back to the VSC. My plan to meet up with John Black hadn't worked out and a quick check of the Vic's website told me there was a £50FO there at 7.45. Five minutes walk and I'm there.
My tournament lasted less than three x 25 minute levels. Too many small pairs and big aces, too many totally whiffed flops, and that's it.
It was still early so I found a seat on a £1/£1 table, loaded the £200 maximum and had a very enjoyable 7hrs or so. Ended up £330 and it could have been better I think. But it was, for the most part, a fun table and by just around 4am there were four of us that had been there when I sat down.
Five hours sleep and back to the RHC for another tutorial on photo's and then watched the first half of the Chelsea game with Dad before Sunday Lunch in the Dining Hall and then off to get the train home.

As I arrived at the RHC on Sunday there was a small parade in front of King Charles's statue. Apparently it is regularly used for medal ceremonies by the Military and this was one of those occasions. I'm told this was a contingent from the Para's.
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20130217_110247_zpsae99dad5.jpg)



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on February 18, 2013, 03:33:25 PM
Forgive the lack of clarity, but this is a picture of a picture.

The photo taken by the official photographer on our trip to OT

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20130216_124958_zps16d21a5e.jpg)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 06, 2013, 06:02:52 PM
Haven't updated here for a while so...

Dad has been very settled at RHC and enjoys the life.
There are many trips and treats organised and Dad was in a group that went to see War Horse and then invited up on stage and behind the scenes. He absolutely loved the play and the opportunity to get a look at the horse and other workings.
He's the In-Pensioner to the far right on the picture on this page - can't shift pictures on the ipad
http://www.chelsea-pensioners.co.uk/

That's the good stuff out of the way...
Last week he was admitted to the infirmary for a few days having been under the weather for a few months. He'd shrugged it off as being the weather and ' I have good days and bad days' and he'd also recently lost one of his closer cousins so a sense of being down was understandable but nonetheless he was less than his normal self.
He was due to come up to us yesterday on the train and was keen to get out of the infirmary in time to do so. I got a call on Wednesday to say that was going to be ok and he'd be up as planned.
'I'm fine' says he, 'just needed a rest'
So, when I mentioned in conversation to wife that my Deepstack ticket was either going to have to be used this weekend or in July and she said ' play today then' I went for it.
Lucy was deputed to collect Dad from the station and I set off for DTD.
Rang home at the break and wife tells me that he looked terrible when he arrived and that Lucy had had to stop the car to let him be sick on the way from the station.
My head was not fully on the poker for the next couple of hours but by the time I busted it was too late to get home to see him before bedtime and I couldn't find the energy to leave so I stuck around on a friendly cash table (they were friendly to me 'cos I was a donator obv)

So this morning, we waved off my eldest and the four grandchildren and Dad then told us that the ultrasound scan had revealed a growth in his liver. He'll have a full scan next week to check if the cancer has spread anywhere else and then a proper consultation to consider treatment options.
Having had major heart surgery three years ago he's not keen on more operations but will obviously wait to hear the words from the consultants.

I'm numb at the moment, I feel guilty that I wasn't there last night for him and relieved that my tournament ended early and i can spend Sunday with him (Gordon Goodall is still a dirty fish). My head wasn't there at all yesterday and on every level I wish I had stuck with my original plan to not play this weekend.

The RHC is absolutely the best place Dad could be right now. He will get top quality care and his group of comrades will support him. I wish I lived closer, but it's only around 2hrs 40 on the train from Darlington to Kings Cross.

My sister is due to be over from Canada in May but may well make an earlier trip depending on the prognosis. She's a retired health professional and will no doubt have a list of the right questions when we speak to her later today.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Laxie on April 06, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
Ugh.  Will be thinking of all of you and keeping fingers crossed for Dad.  xx


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on April 06, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
Very sorry to hear about this David. I hope you get good news.

Please keep us updated when you can.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: horseplayer on April 06, 2013, 08:16:19 PM
sorry to hear this david

please dont blame yourself though its the default setting and having done it myself your dad is lucky to have such a caring son to support him



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: technolog on April 06, 2013, 10:01:44 PM
That's horrible. Hoping for better news soon.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: rfgqqabc on April 07, 2013, 03:18:47 AM
Certainly don't beat yourself up, not what your dad would want. Its just unfortunate how it happened. Cancer is horrible and I wish him, you and your family all the best. My thoughts are with you.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Karabiner on April 07, 2013, 11:36:55 AM
Very sad to hear about this turn of events David.

Hoping for a positive update soon.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: flushthemout on April 07, 2013, 12:53:24 PM
Chin Up David, Pops has great support behind him, take him the Vic with you that will perk him up a touch.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 08, 2013, 01:27:43 PM
I had this post in construction in my mind over the weekend and today's events add a somewhat poignant twist to it.

Like her or loathe her, and I have always had somewhat mixed feelings, (she gave impetus to the career of ben Elton just by being a target) Margaret Thatcher was instrumental in the building of the Infirmary named in her honour at the Royal Chelsea Hospital. It was her initiative and her backing that generated the funds required and you won't find an In-Pensioner with a bad word about her.

It's a tremendous facility and will be Dad's home for the foreseeable future. He's moving into a room in there whilst the next stage of diagnosis goes ahead and treatment plans are considered.
He's typical of his generation, holding back the tears and resisting the urge to be angry. I'm doing my best to match that stoic approach and believe that he is in great hands and will get the best care advice and treatment possible.

http://www.chelsea-pensioners.co.uk/how-are-we-doing/margaret-thatcher-infirmary-care-home


Title: Re: Recommend a laptop for my Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 09, 2013, 11:17:33 AM
Last July i asked for advice about a laptop for Dad.

ipad?

I thought not

Definitely not an ipad, although thanks for the suggestion

I tried him with mine, but even with the add-on keyboard I don't see it being his thing.


Now, I'm not so sure. An iPad would mean that he can FaceTime with us and with Wendy over in Canada. He's tried with one of his fellow IP's and seemed to get on with it ok, maybe it's the fact that it was someone his age...
The Infirmary doesn't have wifi, so my thought was that he could get a wifi dongle?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: bobAlike on April 09, 2013, 11:23:36 AM
Hi Dave, hope things turn out more positive.

Andrew


Title: Re: Recommend a laptop for my Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on April 09, 2013, 01:22:24 PM
Last July i asked for advice about a laptop for Dad.

ipad?

I thought not

Definitely not an ipad, although thanks for the suggestion

I tried him with mine, but even with the add-on keyboard I don't see it being his thing.


Now, I'm not so sure. An iPad would mean that he can FaceTime with us and with Wendy over in Canada. He's tried with one of his fellow IP's and seemed to get on with it ok, maybe it's the fact that it was someone his age...
The Infirmary doesn't have wifi, so my thought was that he could get a wifi dongle?

You can get an iPad with built in 3g but I don't know if it would be fast enough for face time, (whatever that is.)

Also, does the infirmary have a decent signal?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: bobAlike on April 09, 2013, 03:18:12 PM
Last July i asked for advice about a laptop for Dad.

ipad?

I thought not

Definitely not an ipad, although thanks for the suggestion

I tried him with mine, but even with the add-on keyboard I don't see it being his thing.


Now, I'm not so sure. An iPad would mean that he can FaceTime with us and with Wendy over in Canada. He's tried with one of his fellow IP's and seemed to get on with it ok, maybe it's the fact that it was someone his age...
The Infirmary doesn't have wifi, so my thought was that he could get a wifi dongle?

You can get an iPad with built in 3g but I don't know if it would be fast enough for face time, (whatever that is.)

Also, does the infirmary have a decent signal?

Facetime on iPad with 3G definitely works. Not sure on data consumption though.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 10, 2013, 12:46:58 PM
Thanks to all for your responses and your sympathy.

It seems likely that the growths detected in dad's liver are secondary. The scan which was planned for 'as soon as possible' seems to be a fortnight away and the lack of urgency an acknowledgement that it will only serve to confirm the bad news.

On the brighter side - he's been established in his new home very well with his own TV etc moved in and his pictures being put on the walls.
He has a view over the tennis courts and Ranelagh Gardens down to the river and freedom to come and go as he chooses (and can manage).

Dad was the Bandmaster for our local Boys' Brigade for many years and has always loved Military Music. On Thursday he'll join some of his Northampton friends and relatives on their annual trip to The Royal Albert Hall to see the Massed Band of The Royal Marines in concert. This has been an event for him and for Mum when she was with us for around thirty years. It's comforting to know he'll see them at least once more.
video quality is a bit dodgy, but it does give a sample

#Invalid YouTube Link#



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: bobAlike on April 10, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Thanks to all for your responses and your sympathy.

It seems likely that the growths detected in dad's liver are secondary. The scan which was planned for 'as soon as possible' seems to be a fortnight away and the lack of urgency an acknowledgement that it will only serve to confirm the bad news.

On the brighter side - he's been established in his new home very well with his own TV etc moved in and his pictures being put on the walls.
He has a view over the tennis courts and Ranelagh Gardens down to the river and freedom to come and go as he chooses (and can manage).

Dad was the Bandmaster for our local Boys' Brigade for many years and has always loved Military Music. On Thursday he'll join some of his Northampton friends and relatives on their annual trip to The Royal Albert Hall to see the Massed Band of The Royal Marines in concert. This has been an event for him and for Mum when she was with us for around thirty years. It's comforting to know he'll see them at least once more.
video quality is a bit dodgy, but it does give a sample

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBqdUgPLeAc



Fixed your link


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 10, 2013, 12:51:47 PM
thanks Andrew - I really should use that preview button more often


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 12, 2013, 11:50:25 AM
So,
Dad's MRI scan is set for next Tuesday but we're all prepared for it to confirm the suspicion that since liver cancer is very rare in non-drinkers the growth they have found is secondary.
I'm going down to see him on Wednesday and we're hopeful that the results will be available for a discussion then.

He seems pretty upbeat about stuff on the surface, he's 86, has had a lifetime of Christian faith and has no fear of death, just a fear of the process if that makes sense.

He's certainly not shutting down yet.
On Monday, he went as he has for some months to do some outreach work with the local Methodist Church at a homeless shelter. No preaching, just serving a hot meal to the folks there.
He enjoyed his Marines Concert last night, although not the sections where they played Queen and Elvis tunes and he's paid the balance of the holiday cost to spend a week on the Isle of Wight with my sister in May.

He's impatient in so many areas, but he's not impatient to leave us.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 16, 2013, 04:11:29 PM
I probably should have checked, but it seems that Dad's appointment today is with the Oncologist to discuss scans and tests and what they already know.
I found this out too late to get to London in time to go with him but am on the train now and should be there when he gets back to the MTI from Chelsea and Hammersmith Hospital.

Dad's!! Worse than kids!

I'm staying over in a Guest Room at the MTI tonight and contemplating a trip to Leicester Sq to have a look at the Hippodrome and/or The Empire.

Playing poker is such an escape from reality. Vicky Coren's excellent book captures well the sense of freedom from other worries that is found at the poker table and tonight I'll be hoping to find a fun, low-ish stakes game where I can mix it up between nittiness and creativity and break even will feel like a win :)

My alternative choice is to sit and play the MC satellite again, but I don't feel inclined to sit in on my own all night and have no time to win three more tokens.

Tomorrow? Who knows. Probably long conversations with Dad and the Nursing Staff followed by a journey home.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on April 16, 2013, 04:21:09 PM
I probably should have checked, but it seems that Dad's appointment today is with the Oncologist to discuss scans and tests and what they already know.
I found this out too late to get to London in time to go with him but am on the train now and should be there when he gets back to the MTI from Chelsea and Hammersmith Hospital.

Dad's!! Worse than kids!

I'm staying over in a Guest Room at the MTI tonight and contemplating a trip to Leicester Sq to have a look at the Hippodrome and/or The Empire.

Playing poker is such an escape from reality. Vicky Coren's excellent book captures well the sense of freedom from other worries that is found at the poker table and tonight I'll be hoping to find a fun, low-ish stakes game where I can mix it up between nittiness and creativity and break even will feel like a win :)

My alternative choice is to sit and play the MC satellite again, but I don't feel inclined to sit in on my own all night and have no time to win three more tokens.

Tomorrow? Who knows. Probably long conversations with Dad and the Nursing Staff followed by a journey home.




Good luck Dave. I hope it goes well.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: leethefish on April 17, 2013, 07:51:37 AM
Best wishes David


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 17, 2013, 11:20:01 AM
Will get the poker stuff out of the way now before I go to see the Resident GP with Dad and get the full picture thus far

Went to the Vic and found a fun £1/£1 table where my request for "£200, can I have £20 singles" was interpreted by my right hand neighbour as indication that I was likely to be rather laggy.
Thus, when I got dealt AK on my first hand and 3bet his button open of £5 to £20 he peeled.
The flop rolled out QJ10cc and we both checked.
A non club 6 fell on the turn and I led for £26 and called his shove.
I rolled over my hand instantly and he returned the favour when the club fell on the river to give him his flush holding 97cc... £88 down in the first hand but stacks were generally low and I covered all bar him.
Was back on £200+ a couple of hands later when I flopped two pair and held vs two flush draws and across the night I had some fun dynamics with a variety of players.
Opening 45hh and hitting a 367rb flop is fun. We got it in on the 7 turn and I was a touch surprised to be told I was good on a 7 river..
Lost a few, won some more and achieved the objective of losing myself in the game whilst not losing money. Up £180 at the end and that included a loss of a £200+ pot just before I left where it goes in on the turn with KJ on an xxJQ board and he has QJ.

Note for rfggabc btw - - The Vic charges £1 for tea coffee and soft drinks even whilst they strip 10%/£5 out of every pot. £5.50 actually with .50p into some form of 'reward the regulars' pot.




Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 17, 2013, 06:00:24 PM
I'll try to make time for a longer post with some pictures tomorrow but we met the Resident GP at the RHC today and his message was simple.

Based on what we know, Dad has cancer in either the Bowel or the Stomach. It has spread to his liver which suggests it's taken a hold.
He's due for a colonoscopy next Monday and if that doesn't find the cancer then a gascosopy is booked for the week after. The expectation from the GP is that the colonoscopy will find it.

Treatment options are limited. But we'll debate that when we know what we're dealing with.





Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Laxie on April 17, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
Ugh.  Really keeping everything crossed for ye.  xx


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: technolog on April 18, 2013, 12:46:55 AM
Sometimes there are just no words. Thinking of you all and hoping for good news.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: The Camel on April 18, 2013, 01:18:21 AM
All my best wishes to your father and you at this impossible time mate.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Doobs on April 18, 2013, 01:45:38 AM
Best of luck to you and your father. 


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: dreenie on April 18, 2013, 01:54:53 AM
Very sorry to hear this, thoughts are with you and your family x hope everything works out for your father.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: aaron1867 on April 18, 2013, 02:22:43 AM
Sorry to hear this David, best of luck to you and your Dad.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: leethefish on April 18, 2013, 07:26:23 AM
Thoughts & prayers with you and your family David


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: mulhuzz on April 18, 2013, 10:10:53 AM
really sad to hear this David. Thinking of you, your dad and family at horrid time.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: bobAlike on April 18, 2013, 10:15:46 AM
Praying for your Dad and you mate.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Eso Kral on April 18, 2013, 11:27:24 AM
Be thinking of you and the family David x


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 18, 2013, 02:33:56 PM
Thank you to all who have posted their words of support. I am touched.

When Dad first mentioned his thoughts on the move to the RHC one of the major benefits he saw was the fact that, were it to become necessary for him to move into some form of nursing or care home he would simply mover into the Infirmary.
None of us anticipated it would happen so quickly.

But he's there now and I couldn't ask for him to be anywhere else. The facilities and the care he'll receive are excellent.

Here he is, in his new home

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20130417_102454_zps27625030.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/pokerpops/media/20130417_102454_zps27625030.jpg.html)

the room from his bed

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20130417_110852_zpsb719bc34.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/pokerpops/media/20130417_110852_zpsb719bc34.jpg.html)

The staff moved all his belongings for him and put his pictures on the wall.

he has a window looking out over the tennis courts and the park

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/20130417_110825_zpsead040b6.jpg)

Apparently the view will be of the toilet area for the Chelsea Flower Show soon, but I'm sure he can look over that and to the trees beyond for those few weeks.

Everyone I met down there over the last couple of days filled me with belief that whatever is coming will be handled well.




Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: rfgqqabc on April 20, 2013, 09:24:39 AM
All my best wishes to your father and you at this impossible time mate.
The camel says it better than me.

Note taken


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: flushthemout on April 20, 2013, 06:49:50 PM
Just caught up David, thoughts are with you, Im sure he is a fighter


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on May 07, 2013, 04:55:55 PM
So, this thread now has a view of it's ending.

Dad has undergone a CT Scan, a gastroscopy and a colonoscopy and was to have had an appointment with the oncologist on Thursday. That's been postponed for a week for some reason, but meantime the Resident GP has reviewed the tests from the endoscopy department and confirmed primary stomach cancer.
There is no potential for treatment other than palliative care.

We were prepared for this, but...

It's comforting to know that his care will be of the highest possible standard and there are some measures that will improve his quality of life over the next few months. This is not new territory for the medical staff at the MTI and he has made new strong friendships there.

My Sister arrives in two weeks time for a planned visit and we're hoping Dad will be strong enough to make a final trip to the Isle of Wight with her.
Beyond that is Founder's Day and she'll still be here for that and I know Dad wants to play his part in that.
Beyond that? Who knows.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2013, 06:00:04 PM
I hope everything goes as well as it possibly can.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: leethefish on May 07, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
I hope everything goes as well as it possibly can.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2013, 06:13:46 PM
I hope everything goes as well as it possibly can.



Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: technolog on May 07, 2013, 09:20:52 PM
Sounds like your dad's going to get the very finest care available. As you say, some comfort in a horrible situation. Hugs to you, your dad & family.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Laxie on May 08, 2013, 09:35:28 AM
Thinking of all of you  {{{{{hugs}}}}}


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Karabiner on May 08, 2013, 09:53:48 AM
I hope everything goes as well as it possibly can.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Eso Kral on May 08, 2013, 10:11:32 AM
Thoughts with you and the family mate!!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: bobAlike on May 08, 2013, 12:08:38 PM
Thoughts with you and the family


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: mondatoo on May 08, 2013, 05:04:51 PM
Thoughts with you and the family mate!!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: tikay on May 08, 2013, 06:06:02 PM

Hello David.

Not really sure what to say or think. Dad's are so, so, precious.

I know you'll be a good son just when he most needs you to be.

 


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: KarmaDope on May 08, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Thoughts with you and the family mate!!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on May 18, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
Thanks to all for their thoughts. I really do appreciate them.

I've steered clear of updating here over the last few days because posting what I wanted to say using my phone was difficult.

So...

the consultant confirmed what we already knew and dad repeated his antipathy toward treatment. consultant said there isn't much chance of any treatment having value in curative terms but he also
mentioned referral to a Palliative Care Consultant. It seemed likely that the referral would mean waiting for a letter giving an appointment date and then obviously a wait for the appointment itself and could see another two or three weeks passing us by. So....

i mentioned that my sister was arriving next Tuesday for a visit from Canada and that they had planned a trip to the IoW and he swang into action to get us seen straight away. By which I mean that he spoke to the Palliative Care Consultant himself and the delightful Prof Sara Cox has taken over... meds reviewed and altered. steroids and Fortisip drinks prescribed
they've taken some blood and if dad's anemic she'll fix for him to get a transfusion.
she was, utterly, brilliant and spent a lot of time with us and will follow up next week.

It's early days yet but at least now Dad has a plan in terms of making his days more comfortable and allowing him to enjoy them for a while.

My plans have changed over the last few days. I arrived on Wednesday with three pairs of socks and two pairs of pants and the intention to go home on Thursday evening. I'm still in London and will be here now until sis arrives on Tuesday. I can't do much for Dad but he is finding my presence of comfort I believe and I get to feel useful.

I've bought new socks pants and a couple of shirts today. A bus trip to Asda Clapham and a mix of train and bus back made me feel like a Londoner today as I used my Oyster card confidently at all stages. The transport system is pretty good it seems to me. Buses are regular, clean, and predictable and I've probably made more bus journeys on the last few days than in the last five years.

I'll hand over to Big Sis on Tuesday and go back to Teesside although I'm back again in just over two weeks for Founders Day. It will be Dad's first, and probably his last, of these occasions and sadly he'll be seated rather than marching for it, but it will be a moment for us to celebrate.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: flushthemout on May 21, 2013, 08:21:10 AM
Flounders Day will be epic for your dad, Keep chin up David.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on May 21, 2013, 08:46:37 AM
Flounders Day will be epic for your dad, Keep chin up David.

thanks Mike.

Cod willing, he'll take his plaice that day ;-)


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: flushthemout on May 21, 2013, 10:04:26 AM
Lol Dave, my spelling was never the best, but you know what I meant  Tc 6h


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: celtic on May 28, 2013, 02:10:13 PM
Just read this thread, on the back of you post in the Tikay burning everyones money thread.

Sorry to hear, David. Hope the coming weeks and months are as comfortable as possible.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on May 28, 2013, 03:04:44 PM
i wrote, when dad was first diagnosed, that his impatience didn't extend to wishing for a speedy end.

i was wrong.

from a point, just over a week ago when we had hopes of his making a trip to the Isle of Right with my sister and taking part in Founder's Day, to now he has deteriorated very fast. He's decided that this is his time.
He's unconscious with Wendy by his side and me 270 miles away waiting for the call to say that he's gone.

His Christian faith has sustained him and the local Methodist Minister visited yesterday to give him Communion. He'll pass peacefully and leave a hole in many lives, but he has enriched so many lives over theyears through his work in local football, his church and the Boys' Brigade.

This thread isn't  over yet, but it is close.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Eso Kral on May 28, 2013, 04:42:18 PM
Will be thinking of you and the family David!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: bookiebasher on May 28, 2013, 05:04:00 PM
Will be thinking of you and the family David!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Karabiner on May 28, 2013, 05:13:38 PM
Thoughts are with you all David.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: mulhuzz on May 28, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
Will be thinking of you and the family David!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: technolog on May 28, 2013, 10:51:51 PM
It's got to be better than a lingering end. Our thoughts are with you.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: flushthemout on May 28, 2013, 11:07:14 PM
David, I will close my eyes and say a prayer tonight, God Bless Him


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on May 28, 2013, 11:41:51 PM

“Death ends a life, not a relationship.”

I saw this quote today and I thought of your dad, my dad, and all other dads who have passed on.

May he go in peace.




Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: leethefish on May 29, 2013, 08:12:20 AM
Thoughts are with you and your family David


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Laxie on May 29, 2013, 09:21:50 AM
Thoughts with you and yours x


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: blueace on May 29, 2013, 12:08:37 PM
Have just returned to this thread and am absolutely devastated for you. A brave ex soldier that he is will no doubt bear this as well as can be expected. Best wishes.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on May 31, 2013, 10:34:55 AM
Dad passed quietly at midnight

RIP William Frank Amos
10/07/1926 - 31/05/2013

Thank you to all for your messages of support


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Acidmouse on May 31, 2013, 10:40:46 AM
Dad passed quietly at midnight

RIP William Frank Amos
10/07/1926 - 31/05/2013

Thank you to all for your messages of support

Sorry to hear that, at least he passed away in the night peacefully.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on May 31, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
RIP


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Laxie on May 31, 2013, 10:56:04 AM
Awwwww, RIP and hugs to all the family.  xx


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 11:10:38 AM
sorry david


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: bobAlike on May 31, 2013, 11:39:26 AM
RIP

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: leethefish on May 31, 2013, 12:39:19 PM
So sorry David & family
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Xx


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: claypole on May 31, 2013, 12:46:45 PM
Thoughts are with you...RIP and this thread is so uplifting and a fitting tribute


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Redsgirl on May 31, 2013, 01:53:21 PM
Sorry for your loss. x


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: bobby1 on May 31, 2013, 02:22:26 PM
Very sorry to hear of your loss.

RIP


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Karabiner on May 31, 2013, 02:37:11 PM
Sad to hear of your loss David.

RIP


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: KarmaDope on May 31, 2013, 03:10:40 PM
Gutted to hear this Dave.

RIP.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: tikay on May 31, 2013, 03:39:13 PM

Only just seen the last 2 pages David, I'm so busy doing this & that I missed it completely, & now I feel awful.

You must be absolutely devestated, your love & pride for your Dad shone through these pages.

Nobody knows the pain the loss of our Dad means until it happens to them.

I went into my shell for 2 years after my Dad died, I was unbearably bitter & morose, everyone kept saying nice things & I did not want to know. Let me pay my grief bill, leave me alone.

Then, almost overnight, 2 years later, it was OK, & suddenly, all was well with the world. Because I realised he was still there, looking down on me, making sure I behaved as he wished, being proud of me when I did good, annoyed with me when I did not follow the standards he had set me, but most of all, he was still there, chatting to me, every day, about all the common interests we had. Yup, trains, planes & cranes, all that nonsense. 

And to this day, over 30 years on, we still chat every day, we are best mates, brothers, father & son, stronger than ever. It's just fine, lovely.

One day you will be in that place, but for now, go do your lonely grief. You owe that to Dad.

RIP Dad.

 


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: The Camel on May 31, 2013, 06:21:24 PM
Condolences David.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Marky147 on May 31, 2013, 07:13:50 PM
Sorry for your loss David.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: h on May 31, 2013, 07:47:28 PM
thoughts are with you and your family


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: technolog on May 31, 2013, 08:41:55 PM
Sorry for your loss David.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Eso Kral on June 01, 2013, 02:48:10 PM
RIP

When my Dad passed I was sent this message from someone and I snap send it to anyone in the same boat now

You can shed tears that he is gone
Or you can smile because he lived.

You can close your eyes and pray that he will come back
Or you can open your eyes and see all that he has left.

Your heart can be empty because you cant see him
Or you can be full of the love you shared.

You can turn your back on tomorrow and live yesterday
Or you can be happy tomorrow because of yesterday.

You can remember him and only that he is gone
Or you can cherish his memory and let it live on.

You can cry and close your minds, be empty and turn your back

Or you can do what your DAD would want - Smile, open your eyes, Love and go on!!

Thoughts with you bud!!


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Kev B on June 01, 2013, 04:51:30 PM
Just caught up with this thread and sorry I didn't keep up with it.

So sorry for your loss David. May he rest in peace and your family rejoice in the memories of him for the rest of your lives.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: flushthemout on June 02, 2013, 10:38:36 AM
so sad, thinking of your sad lost David


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on June 11, 2013, 09:19:50 AM
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2514/3859123217_b29bc3b106_z.jpg)

Yesterday afternoon this Chapel was filled with love and respect for my (Very Impatient) Dad.

All the seats in the Chapel were taken and there were more in the vestibule. A mix of old and new friends sang two hymns that meant so much to my Father.
Will Your Anchor Hold includes the motto of the Boys' Brigade, Sure & Stedfast, within it's chorus.
Abide With Me is a beautiful hymn in and of itself, let alone the poignancy which attaches to it through it's singing at FA Cup Finals down the years.

His coffin was draped in the Union Flag with his tricorn hat and medals on it.

The Captain of Invalids read his eulogy and spoke of how well Dad had fitted into his new life and the sadness that that stage of his being was cut so short and, after his coffin had left for his final journey we gathered in the Pensioners' Club House to chat awhile.

Yesterday was always to be a quiet day, a day when, in a sense, we dealt with the formalities of goodbye. On Saturday afternoon, at the church in Northampton to which he was attached throughout his life, we will celebrate the life of a man who has been described in every card, letter and conversation about him as a gentleman.
I had always known that my dad was special, but the last few years have shown me just how special.

I've appreciated the indulgence of Blonde in hearing his story over almost a year. I only wish we could have reached a time when you were tired of hearing about him.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Laxie on June 11, 2013, 09:25:08 AM
From it's start, this has been one of my favourite threads and I'd never tire of hearing about him.  The world has lost a genuine hero.  x


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Redsgirl on June 11, 2013, 09:45:54 AM
As Laxie said, who could tire of reading the posts of a proud and loving son about his amazing dad?
I'm sure there are still lots of wonderful stories you could tell, and I hope that you still feel you can share them with us. 


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Eso Kral on June 16, 2013, 11:42:08 AM
Hope yesterday went as well as can be expected David and thoughts with you today.

<3


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on June 16, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
Yesterday went really well and I will report more fully shortly.

Meantime, today is hard


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: RED-DOG on June 17, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
Hi David.

Occasionally you will be reminded of some or other little story involving your dad. When that happens, I hope you share them on here.

 


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: KarmaDope on June 17, 2013, 07:59:23 PM
I only wish we could have reached a time when you were tired of hearing about him.

Never would have happened. I used to smile just seeing a new post in this thread.

RIP.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on June 18, 2013, 01:28:26 PM
Saturday's Memorial Service was held at the Church to which Dad was attached from his birth.

(http://www.familytreeforum.com/wiki/images/thumb/Kingsley_Park_Methodist_Church_NH_TOWN_JESS.jpg/150px-Kingsley_Park_Methodist_Church_NH_TOWN_JESS.jpg)

My Paternal Grandparents were involved there from it's opening and although Grandpa died fairly young, Nan was a stalwart of the place for most of her life until she died just short of her 95th Birthday. Alice would have been 112 today, so Happy Birthday Nan.
We'd expected a fair few people to be present and asked that a pew be held for us on the side of the church which was good, because a combination of not wanting to be in place too early and my eldest daughter gettiing snarled up in traffic meant that we walked in pretty much spot on the 2 o'clock start time. We were sitting in the row that Dad always used, and adjacent to the small side area which is dedicated to the Boys' and Girls' Brigade. These two organisations formed a large part of both Mum and Dad's lives, and mine in my youth and early adulthood.

We sang the Boys' Brigade hymn, Underneath the Banner
heard memories of Dad collected by one Dad's friends, one of the local lay preachers.
The Mens Singing Group that Dad belonged to in Northampton sang Hand Me Down Your Silver Trumpet
more memories, mostly of his connection with Boys' Brigade and his involvement with them which started when he was 7yrs old and lasted for all his life.
This memory is from that moment in the service
In recent years he had been going away to camp with them and would take up his position on the sidelines of the daily sporting activity and lkeep score. One of the older lads had sat with him whilst waiting for his innings in rounders or whatever and been chatting with Dad and said to him
"Bill, you're the coolest old guy I know" pause
"No, Bill, you're just the coolest guy I know"

I'll write more about Boys' Brigade later maybe, it's sad to see it having diminished from it's strength when I was a teenager.

We continued with the hymn Great is Thy Faithfullness and concluded with another singing of Will Your Anchor Hold.

Prayers of thankfullness and appreciation were shared at various stages of the service and I know that Dad would have appreciated every moment of it. He had an unshakable faith in Christ and the manner of his parting was a reflection of his belief that death was not an ending. My own belief has been weakened by events and by people within a church (note lower case c), but seeing Dad over the last few weeks and months has changed me. It remains to be seen if that is for the better.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on June 20, 2013, 09:34:03 AM
I brought home a selection of Dad's CDs and amongst them was a collection of songs by Phill Harris
including this one

enjoy

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlPCNXlk2dc


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on July 10, 2013, 10:48:12 AM
Today would have been Dad's 87th birthday.

sorting through the little brown cardboard suitcase that contained his will; various birth and death certificates and other old items of interest I found this cutting from the local paper

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/pokerpops/Scan_zpsd027c5ee.jpg)

The headline is rather unnecessarily downbeat about the team which was known in our family as The Old Boys. Their survival itself was a success with loyalty to the club keeping many good local players who could have moved to winning teams.
The Boys' Brigade company played, indeed still plays, an annual Boxing Day game against The Old Boys. It's over 60 years now uninterrupted. Played whatever the weather the game attracts a small crowd of supporters and The Old Boys team has players aged up to 80+. Dad played when he was 81 and he and I have played in opposing teams and as team mates. The Old Boys generally have around 17 or 18 turning up to play and substitutions are imaginatively used to make it a competitive fixture against a team of obviously much younger players.
Although The Old Boys no longer feature in the Town League the fixture continues and I spoke with a number of those who will be playing this year at Dad's funeral. The game will live on for as long as there is a Boys' Brigade company in existence at Kingsley Park Methodist Church and will be a part of Dad's legacy.





Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on September 14, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
Hi

I sorted a few Chelsea Pensioners out with a lift home from an event I've been involved with this week. As always they invited me back to the bar. I initially declined (knowing what usually happens when I go in there!), but performed a U turn on the look of disappointment on their faces.

Anyway, I feel bad that I've not kept abreast of this thread - and looked it up when in Chelsea only to see the last couple of pages...

The boys instantly knew who I was talking about and had alot of good words to say about your father; that in fact there was a ceremony this coming Monday for him.

I hope things are getting easier for you; also that the ceremony goes well. I'm sure it will, they're absolute top class gentlemen there and its a beautiful setting.

RIP Bill.

I can't fully put into words how much I appreciate this post.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on September 14, 2013, 10:59:46 PM
Hi

I sorted a few Chelsea Pensioners out with a lift home from an event I've been involved with this week. As always they invited me back to the bar. I initially declined (knowing what usually happens when I go in there!), but performed a U turn on the look of disappointment on their faces.

Anyway, I feel bad that I've not kept abreast of this thread - and looked it up when in Chelsea only to see the last couple of pages...

The boys instantly knew who I was talking about and had alot of good words to say about your father; that in fact there was a ceremony this coming Monday for him.

I hope things are getting easier for you; also that the ceremony goes well. I'm sure it will, they're absolute top class gentlemen there and its a beautiful setting.

RIP Bill.

I can't fully put into words how much I appreciate this post.

Edit,
Added via iPad where I can type more easily.

Dad's ashes are to be interred in the Burial Ground in front of the MTI on Wednesday. He had a marvellous new life at the RHC and it feels fitting that that become his final resting place.
That the guys have good memories of Dad and know this is happening fills me with warmth. I had asked the guy whose time as an In-Pensioner began at much the same time as Dad's if he'd attend and I knew he was putting the word out.

I'm looking forward to it, in a strange kind of way. Is that at all 'wrong'?




Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on October 15, 2013, 11:42:49 AM
In 1966 Dad bought a set of tickets to see England in their World Cup Group games, plus the Wembley quarter-final. He also went into a ballot for Final tickets and got two of them.
He took me and my cousin to see the Group game vs France, bought extra tickets, for cash, from a ticket office at the game against Uruguay.
The spare final ticket had to be given to a work colleague since Dad was on holiday at the time and it was the only way to get the tickets from home. It took a long time for me to accept the truth of that!
But he made it up to me over the next decade or so as we attended every England home match (bar those against Scotland) for around 12 years.
Always in section G68, standing, just to the side of the goal at the end furthest from the tunnel.
It was from that spot that we watched in disbelief on October 17, 1973.

32 years on I was able to take Dad to Old Trafford and sit, with the goal to our right, at the opposite end to the tunnel, and see Owen and Lampard take us through to the World Cup Finals.

Tonight, almost exactly 40 years from that night of Hunter's mistimed attempt at showing some flair, and Tomacevski's (sp?) acrobatics England again take on Poland and, as I have for every England game since the end of May, and every United game too, I will have a conversation with Dad before and after the game.

His views on that loss back then? "They played their hearts out and it wasn't their night".

If we fail tonight, I'm sure that he would find a way of expressing his support for the team and their Manager. But I think it more likely that come 10 o'clock tonight I'll be telling him that they did it just as they had at Old Trafford and would, on any other night, have done it in 1973.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: TightEnd on October 15, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
do you feel the same about your support of the England team now as you did back then David?

football's much more commercial, the players often less lieable, the national team secondary to the interests of the Premier League..

or does the national team winning mean as much now as it did then to the averagesupporter?


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on October 15, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
do you feel the same about your support of the England team now as you did back then David?

football's much more commercial, the players often less lieable, the national team secondary to the interests of the Premier League..

or does the national team winning mean as much now as it did then to the averagesupporter?

I went through a phase, post italia 90 when the national team wasn't as important. That this coincided with MUFC's best years may have been coincidence, or not.
Dad never lost his love for the international game and latterly I have come back to the view that a successful England team is important for the country and for the game and happily my support can be part of my tribute and memorial to him.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: david3103 on April 09, 2014, 11:00:27 AM
It's been a while, but I came across this on the BBC website yesterday and wanted to share it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26886162

Sad that Dad won't see those new rooms, but so good that  they are being built.

I still miss him, especially on days like today with a big European game for his beloved United.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: BorntoBubble on April 09, 2014, 03:23:49 PM
Hope he's with us tonight!

We need all the help we can get


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Pokerpops on December 06, 2018, 11:33:40 PM
i just reread all the posts in this thread.

I was moved, again, by the way in which this community of very different people found time to reach out to me.

I am glad to be back.


Title: Re: my very impatient Dad
Post by: Pokerpops on January 11, 2023, 09:55:26 AM
I was in London at the weekend.
Took a nostalgic trip to the RHC with the intention of eating in the cafe there. Sadly it was closed because  they are on covid amber alert but I got a stroll round Ranelagh Gardens and had a lovely chat with one of the current In-Pensioners in the Museum.

Dad would have loved Erik Ten Hag!