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If i get past the watchful Keys...

I'll be selling 40% @ 1.2 for Genting Poker Series Leg 4 - Stoke
Thurs,  2nd    #2A    £400 + £30 NLHE Main Event Day 1A    13:00    3 Days    25000    60mins

1% - £5
5% - £26
10% - £52

Hendon Mob - http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=107714
Little online volume, I mainly play 6max cash games from 10nl - 50nl
1. Stars: xxxxxxxxx
2. Party: xxxxxxxxx
3. DTD: xxxxxxxxx

I am known to many on here, friends of some and hated by millions.  I have a blog on blonde http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56559.0 which I started this year and has followed my progression from aspiring amateur to low level grinder.  I have played poker for 5-6 years and only taken it more seriously over the past year or two.  However I have had consistently winning years in live tournament poker and managed a few wins in DTD Super50/ £100fo's and the like with my most recent result being 11th in the last DTD500 I played.

I am coached in 6max cash games by pleno and speak to all that will listen about my ideas, views and opinions.  However thanks to people like TK and CambridgeAlex I am much more humble and quiet about my prowess in recent times.

I played the Genting Leg 2 in London and found the structure and buying to be perfect for my level, however life expenses over the last few months (stag do's/ christenings/ weddings) have depleted my poorly managed bankroll so that I am selling for this event.  The field has a mixture of online amateurs/ professionals and live players.  I managed to get through to day 2 with a comfortable stack in London (top 10% iirc) and unfortunately spent most of day 2 raise folding pre flop.  However I did make the money and went a little deeper but unfortunately having the ever aggressive Tim Chung as chip leader on my left eventually caused a clash.

I am selling @ 1.2 and I appreciate this might seem 'high' for someone with my sample of results however I am confident and look to the trusted and well known blondes on here to confirm that I still represent significant value in this buyin with this field.

I will be travelling up on Wed night with TL900 and playing Thursday, with Friday off for grinding/ relaxing.

If there are any further questions/ suggestions please let me know or post here.

I will be online tonight and able to answer/ any and all questions.


Edit
TL900 - 5% cash in stoke
Steven Fitzpatrick - 5% cash in stoke
millidonk - 5% - PAID
David3103 - 5% - PAID
Marky147 - 5% - cash in stoke
muckthenuts - 10% - PAID
edgascoine - 5% - PAID

Have you actually said how much buy in is? or how much per %?

Yes this is a problem.

Also


This is not on - including expenses in the markup, they're for you to pay, not the backers.

Also assuming this is a £1k, how can you justify any mark-up whatsoever given your results? Given you're beating 10nl now but not yet 25nl (based on what I've read of your diary which I read every day and love  as you know) this translates imo to winning at £15 freezeouts perhaps £50, no higher. I don't think chopping a £50 comp and cashing a £500 deepstack once cuts it as proof that 1.3 will be good value. I'd sell at 1.0, or even better auction it, let the market decide.

I'd say this to anyone, given what's come out of the staking thread debate - everyone should comment where they see fit and stakees shouldn't take it personally and take it on the chin. I'm quite sure you will. Good luck.

apologise, edited.

No problem I understand and appreciate the comments.  I thought the idea of putting 0.1 on to contribute to expenses would be ok.  Clearly mistaken - I will change OP to reflect this. 1.2 it is.

£15 freezeouts and £50's? You clearly haven't remembered all of my diary then.  There are a lot of very detailed reports from the DTD500's this year.

I have played most of the £500's @ dtd this year (4 I think), with a mistake and some unfortunate variance being my own reason for one cash this year.  I have also played a lot of tournaments in the £100-300 market with good results, however they don't count on Hendon Mob due to being regular scheduled tournaments and not festivals or special events.

Any other comments, questions.. etc?

that's a bit better, hopfully now the only way is up, will take 5% @ 1.2 plz.

booked, MB/ Stars/ Bank Tx all fine.. handle via pm pls

oh and thanks. :D

Nps, also OP needs updating to reflect new markup. Will PM ya when sent. GL.

5% please Hedge boy

noted, ty.


booked, ty sir.

Also, winning @ 10nl on 6 tables while typing all this and finding out some slightly strange and distressing news (in blog but its not pleasant fwiw).

Also small note, don't know if i should've included in OP but Pleno has 10% as a backers % automatically in all my live stuff, turns into 5% for top3 placings.

Therefore I am effectively playing for 50% of myself with 55% of top3 cash.

???

5% please (cash there?)

Booked, ty

For people I don't know I'd like to have contact details pm'd before I go and a reference if that's ok?
(Don't mean to sound like a *$%!)


10% left, lets get a sellout before Keys gets to us....

U need referenced to people that don't know u!!! All u need is their money,
why worry about whether u know them if not??? Funny guy and gl fit ur 1st staking as
u managed over 300 posts on blonde poker #WhatALife

Will take final 10%

only for someone who wants to give cash @ event..

booked, tyty

SOLD OUT...

All the effort he made with the Vegas thread and he happily overplays to give you a chance at the big cash. 

huh?

I didn't think it was horribly unreasonable?? or am I missing something?

Just shout "yer, he's sound.."

???

I'll vouch for the £26.  He's sound obv. 

Of course, no worries at all and will pm some over.

I've had a fair few financial dealings with Blonde's own policeman, or BITB will confirm I won't freeroll you :)

not a problem at all... just thought i'd be prudent. 

No offence meant.  Now lets skarper before Mister Keys turns up.

"if it weren't for you meddling kids..."

Slight issue in that Edgascoine sent this pm earlier

genting
« Sent to: jgcblack on: Today at 05:05:06 PM »
Could I take 5% please John.
Heading out to hippodrome now but will bank transfer tomorrow if you pm deets?
Thx, Ed

and in my understanding then chronologically ordered %'s stand.

As such - muckthenutz, are you happy with 5%?

Johnblackaments

you'd be bored if it was easy...

The guarantor for £26 #WhatALife

Would of bought a slice but missed it.. Good luck fella  :)up

Ir's fine, none taken m8 and thanks Doobs ;D

Amazing. Let's do this team jb

Good reaction John, wp.

My comments were mainly based on my assumption that this was a £1k event. I think I read GUKPT not GPS. Also you not stating the buy-in of the event may have contributed to the misleadance (new word, I like it).

Perfectly good value at 1.3 in a £400, why did you change the price to 1.2? :D :D :D

Feeling guilty after the 1.94 elsewhere?  ;tightend;

I totally disagree with this- I think expenses are exactly what markup is for. If you are incurring costs going to play an event for someone, it's totally fair to put a markup in to cover your costs for going to the event. If you've got £100 worth of expenses for a £1000 tourney, it's totally fair to sell 40% at 1.1 and get your backer to pay for their share of the costs.

Markup above and beyond this- that's the bit I'm not so sure what it's for. "A salary" for playing the event?

Marky - speaks like someone from football factory but definitely vouch for the fish.

Because you scolded me for the expenses..

Therefore I can't say "oh well its 1.3 anyways"

NOW i am confused....

What do blondes think??

It's stoke. Surely u should knock .1 off for expenses cos the hotel will be so budget

would have bought, when is this?

Thanks mate, its next week.  Great comp, you've played a couple right?

The banter should be good.  Poulton is back for a bit as well, bribing the lady with him.

Banter? We're not in this for banter! Nor for bribing ladies. Do that on your own dime. :)

I am with Alex on this.  If you want to play somewhere glamorous like Vegas, Monte Carlo or Stoke then you should pay.  If your backer wants you to play somewhere like this then you would have an argument. 

My thinking is there is poker on the Internet, virtually expense free, so why not just play that.  Road trips are luxuries and aren't really profit making ventures once expenses are included.  You can obviously get round this by playing soft sats such as the gukpt ones.

As it is you can just use the extra 0.2 towards expenses anyway.  Probably the best and least controversial way of saying the same thing for future reference (I mean just sell at 1.2 rather than explaining that part is for expenses if I wasn't clear)

If you don't think people should charge for their expenses then surely you should think this is really bad ?

It's basically just doing it sneakily instead of being honest.

I also agree with Alex that this shouldn't happen, as has been discussed when others have done so in the past. You should sell at a price you truly think reflects a good deal for backers whilst still getting good value for yourself, not think you should probably sell @ 1.0 but then add a point on for expenses, 1/2 a point for a lapdance when you bust level 5 and 1/2 a point to pay for your share of the bottle of Grey Goose when you're getting smashed coz you're free the next day anyways.

PS GLGL JB

Expenses justifies reasons for selling not for an increase in markup.

The difference in market value from blonde an 2p2 is absolutely hue at the moment which is obv bad for us.

Maybe we are just punters or perhaps they are nits, but the WSOP prices really were eye opening.

Did I ever say I thought 1.2 was good?

He thinks he is worth 1.2, people have bought.  The end result is he has something for expenses.  I struggle with the moral difference between people charging extra for perceived skills, lap dances or expenses.  If it isn't value I don't buy.

GL jb. 

Yeah I'm with Alex here too, if you perceive yourself to have an edge then sell at what you deem to be appropriate. I don't think selling to cover costs you incure by doing something you want is really on.

I was going to sell at 1.2 for Vegas, but I just sell at spot as making an extra $50/100 isn't going to make that much difference anyway.

I would have to charge at 2.5 or something if I wanted to even partly cover my expenses when I go away to play anywhere :D

As for buying action, I just randomly buy because I like to punt. I never really consider the value aspect which is flawed highly for obvious reasons...


Get second please John ;)

I never made any reference to your's, or my own opinion on whether he's value at 1.2 or not ?

I don't how people can trust ur play dude moving alin for nearly 15bb
with 42o & get there . Nice hand sir. Btw don't complain on how other people
play, just worry about urs . Try that move in Stoke GPS and u will b ok . Gl to ur
stakers btw ....... 🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠

Yeh market is just so different here I guess.

Some leit sickos selling at 1.05 in barca and not selling out etc.

Bakincookies sold at 1.1 I think for all side event packages.

Almost nobody sold over 1.5 for me and there were some seriously successful experienced players who had played the main before etc

Guess stakees don't care and looks like stakers don't either.

Eventually in the long grand scheme of things it should make a difference. Also to consider is not just is the player good value but does this represent value for the deal.

For example of sonebody has 40% expected roi it doesn't mean a 1.4 markup is 'good'. I'm not saying John doesn't have an insane hedge btw I meant more generally.

That may be the wisest thing you've ever written here Franky.

This today in GP I take it?

Ty sir. If I am a stakers or someone that buy a piece of a player,
I wouldn't wanted him to move in with 15bb with 4 high. That's my
opinion. I don't care what comp u t playing but definitely not  4 high!

I don't mind the 4 2 shove if we're in a desperate position in the GP and need to double or bust and reenter. It was the bit in bold that I thought wise :) if john paid heed to that he might not have needed to shove the 4 2...

Sure JGC has a sick reason for making a sick optimal insance hedged line with 15 big blinds and a 4 and a 2. I'm sure you won't understand Frankie and obviously it probably won't be something he would usually do unless conditions called for it (or maybe he was blind)

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Lol ... Bedi .. I don't care but not 4 high .. He's not my cup of tea anyway.
Gl to all his stakers ... I find better spot for sure. Ending here. Got to work

George was just being funny mate, it's a normal kind of response from John to thee kinda fps hands. Look forward to tr either way though.

Yeh I'm just messin.

TR is relatively bland tbh...

- Played solid @ start..

- Then tried to bluff someone with JT on QQxA when a reg-fish check minr turn and I didn't think he would ACTUALLY do this with a Q so I shoved and he sigh called with KQ... lol so our gutshot is dead then. woops.

- Then made a 14bb reship over Jack Allen's (competent player) button open.. he 'should' be opening close to 80/90% here in my opinion as my hands are tied and the BB was super tight.
I expect him to open 80% and call 20% or something similar so the 3.5bb's in there should be coming my way A LOT and 42o has plenty of get there vs his KQ/ AQ type hands when we get called.
He snapped with A6o and we saw a  2s 4c 6h flop... nothing changed and we double.

- We then 3bt shove over his next open and another couple of times till we're back to almost average

- We then value bet really nice in the following hand.
10's UTG we open, flatted UTG+2 and by Whale in CO...
Check  8h 5s 4s flop
Lead 600 into 1.4k on  5c turn, called by UTG +2 only..
Bet 2k into 2.6k on  7d and we win when called. (like!)


- Then we get some momentum and make a straight vs 99's with  8s 5s and we check back flop and turn and river straight.. paid off for 4k total.

- Up to 23.4k at break (nice!)

- Carry on trucking and then get in AK vs KK aipf against the Regfish... Maybe this is close/ marginal but I open AK EP and he 3bt's from SB, I 4bt/call.  Door card A.
Massive double up to 45k.

- Play nice and solid for a bit, contemplate the AK vs KK hand.. and sigh it off.

- Get KK otb after being pretty aggy otb all night... get 22's to 3bt/5bt with a little speachplay.. - do a hold and have 65k.

- Carry on trucking... and chip up a bit..

- Eventually get Jack Allen shoving 14bb's or so SB vs my BB and i snap with Ad 7c..
He has  4d 4h
and we do a win. Ul sir, didn't deserve that.

- Get moved tables and chip up a little with some non-showdown pots.

- Card dead for a long time but don't do much about it as I have a competent player to my left, he's short stacked atm tho.  When he busts he's replaced by another good player this time with chips.. (fml)

- Lose a flip AJ vs 77 for about 10k, down to 90k, average is 40k

- Lose another small flip with 66 vs A9 for 20k, down to 80k @ 6/1200/200 average is 45k.

- Fold  Ad Jd 7 handed to UTG open from older nit fella when he 3.5x's and were in BB.... sucks but i don't like my options.  (felt good to be sensible and not spew in spots like this)

- Get pounded on the two times i open.. one of them i cbet flop and turn.. but fold to turn raise..

- Then find  7h 7s UTG with 21BB and literally have NO IDEA what to do... so I just fold.

- Next hand AQ...


That was my tournament....

In your diary I just asked what you did to upset my mate. Guess it was one of his horses you got with 4 2. :(

Tom Langley had got too many swipe on so has reduced to 5%. However the extra 5 was offered to muckthenuts and he has said yes plz.

Op edited to confirm.

this is not an attack at john, but what is  "significant value" does it mean your roi is 25% and we are making 5% on average, does it mean your oi is 50% and we are making big amount of returns etc.

People often use the words value but dont actually give their estimated real value.

If im honest mate with the field as I saw it in London... If it is the same type, amount, groups of players I think my ROI is higher than I am selling at.  However with no results/ volume and an already proven large opinion of myself I think im lucky to get 1.2 on here given the  current staking discussions.

As you know, I am working as hard as I can to improve.. Even spending a lot of time looking specifically at <30bb play since a lot of tournament life changing decisions are made here.

The ONLY reason I cashed both the DTD500 and GPS London legs is because I played very solid when short.

Mustve been dealt a lot of sub 42o holdings ;)

lol cos obviously I'd play the same in a re-entryable £100 fo and a £430 fish-a-thon :D

this is why the comments from Frankie annoyed me so much.

Lol John you give it so surely you are big enough to take or, sure you have given a lot of rub downs before

The standard between the comps isn't going to be hugely different though.

course I am, however I would never publicly call someone out about something i wasn't privy to or don't know a lot about.

Esp when Frankie's play is less than optimal.

anyways, I don't want to get into any kinda arguments or hate-rows... ive got no problem with him, just saying i think its ool.




obv true... but re-entering after I've made a mistake on my own money is one thing.

honest likelyhood of me doing something like the JT in the GPS? 0.00001%



off to eat... laters all.

To me is nothing!!! U play the game the way u think is right and I don't freaking care...
All I said was if I am the staker and my horses played like that and put it on blog about shoving 4 HIGH,
I will defo give him his P45 ... As a staker we try to make profit snd by shoving with 4HIGH and then
posting in the blog to let people read isn't the right thing. I didn't know at 1st u were playing with ur own
dime , and If I did I wouldn't have made that comments. I thought u were staked to play that comp and I think
it was unfair to ur stakes . It also got nothing to do with Jack bcause , I know Jack don't like to mentioned about how
people played. I trusted Jack like I trusted my family. Anyway gl to u and c u in Stoke GPS.
Hopefully u and Jack get the same table again or me & u on the same table.
And please don't shove 4 high into me.

I'd way rather have a horse honest like John is and own up when he makes a play.

Wouldn't you Frankie? What if you found out that Jack had been shoving 42 also and just keeping it secret for many months? 

I TRUSTED JACK LIKE U TRUSTED PJ...

*trust! Trusted makes it sound like we don't trust them anymore!

I'm saying itd better john is honest and tells people about these hands, rather than lies and just says "yeh lost kk vs aa again".

NNOONONONONONONONO ...JACK TELL ME THE HANDS HE PLAYED. WE DISCUSSED ABOUT IT. NEVER 4 HIGH MAYB 10 HIGH

SOMETIMES!!!!!

i think u know Jack is honest boy and so is PJ. Never in doubt that if they do so they may come and tell me but not posting on blogs
and let everyone knew about it.  Bragging i meant...And u know that wont happened to Jack and PJ because them 2 kids r awesome
and never braggs about poker but only discussing about problems... AGREE??

Agree :) you let me have jack for £20 please?

ok.. no problem

Peej got nothing to brag about tbf, although I think there's a really good chance he will ship the Grand Prix this weekend.

#youhearditherefirst!

keep telling him to tighten up his opening ranges ffs

Regged for Day1A Genting Poker Series Stoke.

online name - binkmeplease

Taken a while to get sorted, but checked and thanks for prompt payment from everyone.

Sorted and regged, legggo!

stoke is a horrible place btw.

Sure worried about the town :D

Strip Clubs [X]
Curry        [X]
Bar/Food   [X]

S'ok all that comes out of pleno's 10%...

Ez game.

lol

nearly died there when I was 17. For some reason they absolutely hate geordies.

Geordies or you??

Is this back when you used to slowroll and needle people? "way back... In the old days.."???

:D

Naughty Fortys over there ain't it. They hated everybody coming to there place thinking stoke was just full of village idiots.

Mitch isit!!!

Last Edit: July 29, 2012, 11:49:29 PM by Mitch

not letting the chubby funster get any credit for that

stoke is shite to be fair, there are a couple of decent strip clubs though.

Avoid Hanley - go to newcastle if you're going for a beer.

thanks, hope you don't think my post on your staking thread was out of line.. it was trying to be a joke but apparently didn't come across like that.

gl in stoke.

tweeting @realjohnblack


Just under avg at first break..

If i follow you best follow back you slag.

Well that was a quick stay at the feature table..

First hand in HJ, look down at 4h 5h.  Playing 27k ish.

Open, folds round to BB playing 50k or so. He calls.

FLOP (1050)
 Ahrt  3c Kh

I cbet 725, call.

TURN (2500)
 Td

I cbet 2550 because I want to make the pot big enough for some big river value, expecting a raise rarely, however we have a LOT of good outs vs a turn raise range imo.
He raises (hmmmm) to 7k.
We dwell and think about it, I can never get a fold here and he's going to bet or call it all on my good rivers.  I call with 19k ish behind.

RIVER
 2d

Pretty good river as we only lose to one hand that makes sense - QJhh, which we expect flop checkraise from a decent % of time.

So when he sets me in, I take a double take of the board and my hand... Count in my head to make sure I dont look silly with 5high and go Ahrt, 2d, 3c, 4h, 5h...

That's a straight. Call.


WP sir, your QJo (no h) is good.

I dont know what to say atm, bit annoyed, embarrassed, frustrated, meh and need the toilet.  

So off for a wee and sorry to all.

Nick Slade is a boss tbh

yup i'm a fan!

boss jason herbert with a boss picture.

what a hero


http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=57003

Having discussed it with a lot of people who I think are good at MTT poker and pleno...

I am afraid the hand above isn't a cooler, instead its just a mistake.  Betting the turn isn't great but definitely don't be as big as I did.  Think I should have lost a lot of chips but probably should've gone

Raise pre
Cbet great flop
check back turn
raise river lead > fml fold to reshove... look like genius folding second nuts.

have great first hand and go from there to grind it up.

Sigh @ making a big mistake like this.  I would love to say that I'll always be behind here and its just 'that easy' but I genuinely think that live you can see some strange hands here some % but obv its not enough to make this 'good'.



Apologies to all, back to drawing board.

Bit naughty the first line but I will give it some <3

I'm just looking forward to seeing the markup on the next staking thread.  :D

tie & shoelaces come to mind

oh and

#wpsir

:P

plenty of love for you...