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Virgin currently have a couple of very good promos, Booster and Buy Miles with bonus, which when used well with their current offer of a reward seat sale make for plenty of savings opportunities.

Miles Booster allows you to claim (or retro-claim) additional miles on flights based on miles flown.  So a return to Vegas (if you flew this summer just gone) you could retro-add what works out to be 22k miles for £328, or 11k miles for £171.  However, that should only be done to supplement miles that you have already bought, as the bonus on the Buy Miles makes that a better deal (you could currently buy 20k miles and get 4k bonus for £315) (some further examples below)

TheAce high

Random date selected in June 2013.  Econ = £800 P.E = £1280  Upper = £3600.  Benefits are that your cash fare will attract miles on the flight, and you don't have to muck about understanding the promos.

The One pair

Due to the Reward sale, you can fly from Mancs or LGW for 31,667 miles atm.  If you have some miles kicking around, great.  If you have zero miles, just buy them!  27,000 miles bought get a 5400mile bonus for £420, then you can snap-use those miles to buy an economy reward seat (+£350 tax)

If you have to buy all the miles, obv £420+350 = £770 and you may as well just pay £800 for the flight and earn miles on it.  But if you have most of those miles kicking around in your account expiring soon or whatever, then your flight cost tends closer towards £350.

The Straight

Fancy Premium? LV is 70k miles, but LA or SF is on sale at 46,667 miles (cheaper than normal miles for Vegas economy)  You can crunch the numbers, but if you fancy Premium at a discount, you could toy with a day in LA or SF (watch a ballgame etc) and catch a $cheap flight on SouthWest from there, or rent a car and enjoy the drive. (assuming you need to buy all the miles to LA/SF, £600 covers it, so not great value unless you had most of the miles already)

Quads
For those ballin but still just about in control, you can fly cheaper in Upper by a considerable margin.  50k miles to buy +12.5k bonus = £765.  Depending on how many miles you already had, you can buy more miles in Jan (new calendar year) or you could retro-add miles to your 2012 summer flight as above as needed.  Lets say you have ~20k miles in your account already, you can buy 62.5k for £765 and Boost 22k miles for £328.  Now you have enough for an Upper Reward fare, tax is about £480, so about £1500 to buy yourself a seat in Upper, pretty decent saving.

The Gatwick planes are still continuing the refits, but the majority should be in service by next Summer, but it is not out of the question if you run really badly (as we all do  ::) ) that you could end up with an old'un.  They have taken a couple of rows out of economy, so the pitch should in theory be better etc.

I still think (and the maths supports it ^^) that the best value/savings are to go Upper on a reward ticket.  If you max the points you earn year-round on the various promos/partners that attract miles, it isn't hard to do)  Paying £480 tax to fly in Upper seems like a good deal when your mates pay £1100 last minute to go in economy because they weren't organised.

During regular priced mode, 100k miles for Upper is waaay better value than 50k miles for economy.  However, atm with the sale fare being 31,667 for economy, there's nothing wrong with that either.

Obviously this assumes you have a flying club account.  And of course if you don't, I'd be happy to help you get one with bonus miles added to it!

Many thanks for the info Simon.

Do you need to join the flying club or have a Virgin credit card or something to enjoy these benefits?

You need to join the flying club. You can do it yourself at no cost, or you could have someone (ahem..) refer you, in which case we would both get bonus miles.

Guess the question is what do i do with my 170k miles?

Vegas for taxes only?

No problem with you refering me, how do we go about it?
A few questions if that's ok?
How many bonus miles will I get if you refer me?
I booked with Virgin (maybe through Expedia), in the Summer, departed June 30th 2012. Will I get any retro points for this?
If I book for Vegas sometime this month, with a view to going next June, will I benefit or receive rewards?
How many miles a year do you need to earn for this to be worth doing? - was thinking of white card as no costs and could possibly spend upto £15k a year with holidays / work travel etc. included.
How do you get info regarding flights / points needed?

Cheers

Cotter.

x3...

just need the roll for the games.

Currently playing live, will write up a full answer in the morning, but in short, all your questions have positive/desirable outcomes

Helpful guide ty

Upper Reward ticket to wherever you want to go imo for 100k + tax

Putting up most of the answers ITT for transparency ~ it is all above board and all searchable with a couple of mouse clicks ~ it isn't like I won't help anyone that doesn't want to sign up through me, but I do appreciate those who have and am happy to help them get set up to max their rewards.  Obv the personal email stuff etc can go to PM.


Send me a PM (same for anyone else) with the email address you would like to associate with your soon-to-be flying club account and I will send you a link for you to sink up on.


1k if you fly in economy, 2k in Premium and 3k in Upper.  For completeness, I would also receive 2k if you flew in economy, 5k in Premium and 10k if you took Upper on your first flight.


Not automatically, but it is a simple process to claim them (you have up to 6 months from date of travel to do so)  For the terms of the referral, I have no idea if they will class that as your first flight or not.


You will earn miles on the flight, depending on class of travel and your flying club level.  They won't be applied to your account until after you have flown.  Assuming red and economy, you will earn something like 5200 miles and 4 tier points, through to 15,600 miles and 10 tier points in Upper.


As to what constitutes "worth doing" that is somewhat subjective.  The way I look at it, they award miles to me at no cost when I fly or when I use Virgin (or partner) services.  To me, it is a minimal amount of effort to open an account and accept the 'free' miles that they choose to give.

I have taken a few Upper Reward flights and a few economy reward flights using miles, as well as upgrading my economy ticket to Upper on the day using miles.  Miles+Money flights start at just 2000 miles, so definitely worth picking up the points.  I also have taken my own advice in OP, bought some miles, earned some miles and will be paying less to go in Upper than most will be paying to go in Economy.

If you want to make a little more effort to chase some miles, then the credit card is a good idea.  Please don't anyone take a credit card if they are likely to overspend on it, but assuming that isn't an issue, the white card gives:

1 Flying Club mile for every £1 spent on everyday card purchases
2 Flying Club miles for every £1 spent direct with Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Holidays
A Premium Economy reward upgrade on an Economy redemption when you spend £10,000 on your card in one year. You can earn up to 2 upgrades a year
A complimentary companion reward flight when you spend £15,000 on your card in a year (just pay the taxes and charges) when you purchase a full fare qualifying flight.
Exclusive offers from American Express Selects™

If anyone is considering the Virgin credit card, I can refer you for that as well and pick up bonus miles on your first purchase.  Again simply PM me and I will send a link to join up through ~ and am also happy to spend some time walking through the other methods that can maximise 'free' miles accumulation.

Go to hell for killing all them trees :)

Why not just go there n treat it as a holiday ? I now go and am quite happy to donk about in lower buy ins ,sit round the pool obv in better weather than now , see a couple of shows ,have a few beers ,get up n do it all again the next day
Rinse n repeat x7/10

With regards to this bit

A Premium Economy reward upgrade on an Economy redemption when you spend £10,000 on your card in one year. You can earn up to 2 upgrades a year
A complimentary companion reward flight when you spend £15,000 on your card in a year (just pay the taxes and charges) when you purchase a full fare qualifying flight.
Exclusive offers from American Express Selects™

Where abouts do you see these in your account?  All I can see is the option to buy a companion flight for approx 35,000 miles, nothing about a freebie.  Likewise with the PE upgrade, can't see anything about it.  Can you use this to upgrade for free when buying flights in normal economy with miles?

You can't see them in your account.. you just get an email from them shortly after you qualify for it.  They give you a special phone number to call, you have a date range in mind (not always going to be possible to land fixed dates) and you call them to book the economy reward seat with your voucher code which insta-turns it into a premium.

Cheers, better check through my old emails!

We’re delighted to tell you that you’ve earned a Premium Economy reward upgrade simply by using your Virgin Atlantic White American Express® Credit Card from MBNA. So you can now upgrade an Economy reward redemption (an Economy flight bought with your Flying Club miles) into a Premium Economy flight!¹

That was my email, feel free to search on that wordage if it helps.

You can see them in your statement in the Your Account section of the Flying Club.  Obv sign in and go to this area.  Amend the statement period to 1 year and click Update.  If you have qualified for the PE upgrade it will be listed with an activity description of "VAA Credit Card Econ>Premium Reward Upgrade".  You have to have booked this upgrade 12 mths from the date it was applied to your account (shown on the statement) but you don't have to fly within that 12 mths, it just has to be booked within that timeframe.

I've just looked at my Flying Club statement online for last 12 months and I have a PE Reward Upgrade voucher & a Companion Flight voucher (the latter I hadn't even spotted before!).  The Companion Flight activity description comes up as "VAA Credit Card Companion Flight Qualification".

ty, still haven't found it :D but good to know.

Cheers,

VAA Credit Card Companion Flight Qualification

I take it that's the companion flight one?  Had that back in March, no sign of the PE Upgrade and I've definitely spent the money on the card.   Also only have the one companion thing on my statement.

If that's the free companion flight, can I use it for any class?  Basically I'm thinking of San Fransisco for the Mrs and my daughter.  I have approx 85k miles atm, one free flight and two at 46,667 would make that a bargain.  Happy to top up the miles of course.  Failing that, a free flight and two normal economy is pretty good value.  This is my way of sneeking to Vegas!  We have friends in SF too so that'd be quite nice.

Yes sorry, just changed my post above to confirm the description of the companion flight as well.

The £15k spend has to have been using the AMEX card (spend on the Visa card doesn't count towards it).  If you look at your online MBNA statements you'll be able to work back and work it out but you might have to call them to get them to confirm the anniversary date of your card.  They'll be able to tell you which statement dates counted towards the accrual period for the £10k spend.

If you click the link below, there's a link on that page to the Companion flight terms and conditions.  It should answer your questions.  If in doubt call Virgin Flying Club.

http://uk.virginmoney.com/virgin/vaa-amex/tell-me-more.jsp#

I should be ok, there's been easily more than 10k on the Amex card and it's 1 year since I signed up in December.  Will check dates with the boss and try and sort something out.

Thanks for explaining it.

Simon they have very good deals in theory, but ive been trying to spend my miles all year and have been told 4-5 times through out the year that my "my choice of reward seat is not available at this time search again" or this 1 is better " reward seats often become available nearer the time of departure" anyone that uses virgin knows thats bullshit cause the flights always go up in £ nearer departure. I had a look at ure quad deal, very good deal BUT went on the site and tried alot of dates for june vegas time and guess what? " my choice of reward seat is not available at this time search again" i mean maybe im doing it wrong but it seems a big con to me mate?

I agree it can be very difficult to spend them.  I've rung up numerous times and complained about it.  I got a supervisor to come back to me after searching flights to Vegas for a whole month to find a flight I could redeem my points/voucher on.  She found one for me eventually.

It isn't a con as such... but they do have limited seats in P.E and in Upper, so obv they are trying to sell those to full fare paying customers as much as possible.  If the plan was for 8 mates on a trip to all cash in 100k miles and fly Upper together to Vegas on the same flight... ain't gonna happen.  Sometimes when I am playing with dates on the website, I click a date and the website holds the seat for 10 mins (or whatever it is) if I don't complete the booking but search again, the seat is temporarily unavailable, indicating that for that flight, they were only letting 1 reward seat go at that moment.  Couple of hours later, the seat is back available, most times.

For June in economy, atm you'd be flying out 14th or 16th and back again 25/28/29/30th.  That will definitely change over time, how much you can wait it out and how much flexibility you have will vary person by person.

June Premium not much showing atm, but with LA sale fare so low and pretty much daily availability, that would be worthy of consideration.

Upper not showing yet, whilst they aren't that liberal with availability, I've usually managed to get something sensible around a fortnight's trip, booked several months in advance, acknowledging that I am pretty flexible on dates.

Flights often do go up near departure, but reward availability does get added, only a 1 min task to check daily. YMMV, but I've always been able to get something acceptable.  Similar to people that can't get the seats they want on the flight map, people do cancel trips, do change seats etc, a 1 min check per day and snap-move to your preferred seat when you get the chance, often happens a lot in the last few days as blocked out seats get released etc.

The other option for people that are inflexible on dates is to pay the cash fare in economy and go to the ground crew desk (not the check-in) and ask if there is any availability to use miles to upgrade.  25k miles would get you a 1-way upgrade to upper.

Sometimes worth a call and being nice to them, they may have info about intended availability etc.

FWIW, for 3 people to get back from SF, I couldn't get a flight towards the end of May, all of June and all of July.  Didn't look at August.  If I want to go for a couple of weeks, it's going to have to be April.  Failing that, I'll talk the Mrs into letting me go alone ;whistle;

hi
i'm pretty familiar with the rewards/airmiles programme and the info you give covers all the various positives and negatives in a much simplified form,great post.
One question though have Virgin changed maximum amount you can purchase as i thought it was 30,000 max per year?

Yeah it says that it's a special one off to buy up to 50k atm

ahh yeh just found it on the site thanks,


Limited time offer – Flying Club members can now buy up to 50,000 Flying Club miles, and receive up to 25% bonus miles for free!

far too much time on your hands Galloway

Now that tournaments only seem to last 45 minutes.. I do seem to have more time...

Just out of interest.......when do Virign have their flight sales?

More to the point, when are the best times to book with them?

They seem to do reward offers every two three months apart. If you know the dates you are going I'd reccommend booking flight as early as possible. If you book rooms seperately and prices go down for rooms you generally can cancel at no cost and rebook at lower prices.

January I believe

U can book 11 months in advance

Worth just looking twice a day ,I use my I pad once your dates are in their website it takes seconds to check prices

Yeah, I check daily, I just need to decide if I'm gonna book seperately or use say Expedia/Ebookers.

Any preference?

Booking via Virigin and say Harrah's directly is about £100 more.

I've always booked direct with virgin ,wait until its a price u r happy to pay ,that's all I do

At the mo there is a buy 50000 miles an get 25% free which works out at £765 on te virgin site .or is it better to use £250 Tesco club card vouchers an get 62500 miles which is the same milege  wise but normaly if u use vouchers for restaurants u would get£1000 to use?
How often do they sell miles an offer bonuses an its quite tight which way to go about topping up account?

Just been to Vegas with Virgin and flew in Economy.

Had one of the refit planes on the way out. Once they sorted out the entertainment system it was much improved. Defo more legroom in economy post refit.

had the last remaining 'old' plane on the way back. Felt like a shithole in comparison, entertainment would not work either.

I'm hoping it's just a glitch at the mo, but virgin haven't awarded me my points for flying with them, stating that my booking didn't qualify, as booked through a travel agent.

I opted in on Tesco "auto conversion" as they were giving free miles to do so.. so all my Tesco points get auto-converted into miles.  As to whether that is better than restaurant vouchers.. depends what restaurants, how much you want to eat there and how much you like flying on Virgin cheaply... i.o.w. std opportunity cost stuff.  The opportunity to buy 50k miles + bonus is only temporary afaik (usually 30k max + zero bonus) so I'd be tempted to buy 62.5k miles for £765 AND same from Tesco for £250.  That's nearly enough miles for an Upper and an economy flight atm.  By time you apply relevant taxes to the reward flights, it will set you back about £1700 all told for an Upper and an economy flight.  Given plenty of people will buy 2 economy flights next year for ~ £1700, seems like a decent spot to get Upper out of it for no extra.


Thanks for the info, consistent with other reports from the new refits.  A few years ago I booked thru a travel agent for a while (as they had a "we will beat ANY price by £xx" deal, so I let them undercut Virgin's own price :D which they did 2-3 times before it dried up) and there was never a problem claiming missing miles from the online flying club section, gl.

Yeah, i've never had a problem with the points in the past either and have always booked through expedia/ebookers. Put in flight details for claiming missing miles and it come back as these flights not available for points. Just awaiting a response to my email.

Just an update on the availability moans regarding reward seats.

I've been keeping an eye really closely on this recently as I wanted two upper seats.  Given that most people complain that one seat is as rare as rocking horse poo, here is the current situation.

For WSOP June 2017, you can pretty much fly economy or Premium any time you like.  Upper is tougher, but still various dates going out ~ coming back is scarce.

The real trick is to be organised though... I knew the dates I really wanted and kept an eye out for exactly 12 months out ~ i.o.w. the very same day that the new flights were getting loaded into the system for the first time.  Things do dance around quite a bit, maybe as Virgin start selling cash fare tickets, or as other eagle eyed reward hunters snap seats up.  But there are a plethora of seats readily available and very easy to book for anyone with the slightest amount of flexibility.

Bottom line is, you can't decide in February "I want to go on 16th June... bah nothing available... what a con </click>"  You have to have that thought around the 16th June the previous year, be prepared to check twice a day every day for a while, and you are highly likely to get it.

This. Award tickets to popular destinations in high season are snapped up as soon as the booking window opens.

Simon, do Virgin allow bookings 365 days I'm advance? I thought most airlines were 330 days?

Yea sorry 11 months.  Today you can see universal availability for Aug 2017.  You will be able to see your date for flying out before the return date gets loaded in as they load one day at a time.

Aug 2017 outward:

14 days available in Upper.
0 in PE
24 days in Econ

Inward:

14 days in Upper
14 PE
31 days in Economy.

You'd have to be a fairly starchy person to find that offering unacceptable.  Worst case in months where non-optimal dates are showing, you could book say PE going out, Upper coming back, so that you have a solid booking, with a view to keeping an eye on the dates and paying a £50 fee to upgrade your PE leg to Upper anytime they change the availability.

We've had 3 X£450 flights to Vegas in January ,June n last week for me n the gf this year then paid £50 each for an exit/ extra leg room seat ,that's what we pay Ryanair for Tenerife with a case each n exit seats it really is a no brainer to get a credit card put your spends on it n swap the money over from your current ac to the card ac

Reading an earlier post simon would it be better / better use of miles/ more chance of an upper seat  to fly to LA then drop down to Vegas ?

There's more chance with LA, as the route uses a different configuration of plane and there are more Upper seats in the cabin.  The flight starts off better too, going via Heathrow you get the drive-thru checkin+private security channel+ str8 into a better clubhouse.  LGW is quite bad comparatively.  Not that its a big issue, but the whole point of being checked in from your car is to get out the car and walk straight into the clubhouse.  At Gatwick, they check you in from your car and then drive you round the front and you go through the scrum at the front of the airport with everyone else.

That said, you still land in LA.  If you really wanted to take a day in LA I guess its ok.  If you are just planning on getting the next available shuttle into LV, then I massively prefer just flying direct to Vegas in the first place.

I guess I've never had too many problems getting what I wanted and so couldn't understand others moaning about availability. But then I definitely am sat there watching the website from even before the seats are released and for some reason it hadn't really dawned on me (until I talked to someone about it) that not everyone does that.  The person in question just pulled up a seat map for the next month and complained there wasn't much there.....

At least they're doing that much ;D

heh, yea they are over-working it.  Should just ask you to keep an eye on undisclosed dates for them instead.

:D

I am a BA man myself when I finally do get out to vegas will be doing it business or first.

For those that like Virgin and want to travel in style, there is a great website called head for points that has tons of information on how to optimise your collection of virgin miles.

Here is a link:

http://www.headforpoints.com

Tesco also have loads of bonus promotions to help build up miles more quickly, I like the lego ones which I stash away for my nephew /nieces birthdays and Christmas. They are also easily traded on eBay.

Thanks for the link ~ had a brief look round and it seems to concentrate predominately on BA/Avios ~ couldn't find very much at all on Virgin?

The scrapping of Combi-sales recently didn't really make too much difference ~ I never saw a deal that seemed to make much sense, or wasn't beatable by optimising the use of miles in a different manner.

The seat calendar for next August 2017 over the last couple of weeks has shown how quickly things go/change.  Lots of dates starting to disappear.  By contrast, you can see the advent of the new Sept dates getting loaded up.  Daily availability, in the coming week or so there will probably be additional cabin upgrade availability, followed quickly by unavailability as people grab what's there.

For Virgin- orientated forums check out http://v-flyer.com/ and http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/virgin-atlantic-airways-flying-club-506/  - between those two you'll pretty much cover most of the web's accumulated FC knowledge.

 ;whistle;

In all seriousness, the more info the better.  I've found something that works well for me at least, getting Upper reasonably regularly for ~ economy price ticket.  But very happy to discover or be shown any improvement.

Heh, goes without saying.

I was at a poker bash over the weekend and between a bunch of us old farts gently maturing blokes we managed to discuss the HMRC route, the wine, the ISA and the relative benefits of Amex charge card offerings. Living life on the edge.

Time for a 9year update!

Virgin now do peak and off-peak tables for spend miles and Vegas is definitely a bit more expensive nowadays.  On the flip-side, my own recent experience is that Flying Club have been pretty helpful with cancelling/rolling over flights due to the pandemic and seat availability has been ample.  Phoning Wales has got much better results for me than using other routes, where I got a few templated answers to unasked questions before giving up and grabbing the phone (1 hour wait)

There is currently a buy miles with up to 60% promo, so let's take another look-see and we might be able to sit in Upper for less than we were nearly going to absent-mindely pay for Economy.  Or not.  I honestly don't know yet, but here is my working:

Assumptions:
1. You have 0 miles.  Obvioously if you already have some, the numbers get better.
2. Once you buy miles, you can readily convert them into a seat on an acceptable date.  I realise this isn't always going to be true, so you might want to check availabilty before laying out for miles.  Or just get the miles anyway.

Off-peak: 30k / 55k / 135k
Peak:  50k / 75k / 155k

Buy 120k miles + 72k bonus miles = 192k miles for £1815.  This is the minimum mile purchase for the 60% tier to kick in.

A quick check on airport tax, econ ~ £272 PE ~ £487 and UC = £660 for the date I sampled.

So, 2 peak PEs?  ^^ £2800 (and you'd have 42k miles left over, so likely your next solo would be free too)

1 x UC off-peak?  £2500 and enough miles left over for a PE solo flight next time.

Not the bargains of old, but then UC was 100k miles and really was a gimme.  Still some decent value to be had here I think, and needless to say, a viable alternative to anyone thinking about paying £2500+ for an Upper ticket.

Upper reward seat availability is very scarce at the moment

When were you looking to go?  I believe it is scarce as many people report, I usually have to take 2nd or 3rd choice of dates but I'm normally booking well into the future (June flight booked UC no issues, 2 seats) I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

What I would recommend, based on my last few experiences, is to phone Cardiff.  It does take an hour or more on hold, but with a handful of dates to hand that I could do, they have usually managed to get something to suit.  They have many times said "we can see the system and it is NOT the same availability as you see on the website."  Seems like it would be a good idea if their website was improved so that it was the same, but hey-ho.  Emails are a waste of time (the Cardiff team don't get those, seems like they are outsourced (and poorly, at that) WA didn't get a response, but phone and credit card in hand has worked, and they were additionally accommodating rolling over flights that were impacted by covid.

I am always gunning for UC because I still believe that to be the pick of the way to use points, but there are good alternatives, including using miles to go economy and upgrade into PE using credit card voucher (dunno if they still do this, I stopped getting emails from them)

Ultimately, it is well worth checking dates and buying your way into UC via miles whenever that is a decent saving over paying the cash fare.

Got many miles, and agree UC is always the best way to spend them.

Very interesting about the phone line having different availability to the website.

We've been using seatspy.com which is very accurate in matching the website, and up until now never really had any issues.

Been checking on May 2022 for a while now and there is nothing, might give them a call next week and I will report back.

Ty, interested to hear if anything opens up.  Obviously the seat map that they see is heavily correlated with the website and I guess will often be in synch, but it only needs to be 1 seat different to get what you need when the website won't.  Pretty good customer service from that team, never had a bad call with anyone, even if not able to get me exactly what I wanted they have been able to give me an accurate steer of what could be done.

This is how Stu and I got our latest UC seats.

With a Virgin Atlantic reward+ card which costs £160 per year you get a free companion seat or cabin upgrade annually as long as you spend £10k.

Thanks to not being able to fly for two years I had two rewards so used one to upgrade myself from PE to UC then another for a UC companion seat which cost 50% points

Overall it was about 130k miles plus the two rewards for 2 x UC return plus taxes of course

You also earn tier points on reward seats now although I'm not sure if they will be of benefit. From what I can see the main applicable benefit for the likes of us is that you can use a companion seat for UC for no points rather than the 50%.

You need to have taken 4 UC flights to get to silver tier though so it takes a lot of trips given that the points reset annually.

Difficult to do it any better than that. 

Pretty sure I had a companion seat thing for re-triggering Gold, but can't find it anywhere. Do they expire? (even with Covid etc?)

I suppose answering my own question here and gonna have to proceed with the "ring Wales for help" tip. :)

I have also used Seat Spy in the past and found it really handy.

They do expire, (probably got expiry info with the award) wouldn't recommend phoning for that at the moment, new seat sale went live, going to be a long wait to get through.

Although they expire, what I did was make a booking, and then roll the booking over (rather than get a refund) and the voucher was still honoured.

You get 24 months from the date you earned the reward to use it.

'Use it' means book a flight and take the outbound leg according to the website so not certain Simon's rollover method would work?

Currently booked on a flight next June using an expired voucher that they have honoured twice with covid rollovers, so I'll be a little upset if it doesnt!