Title: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on November 11, 2012, 12:28:58 PM This weekend the GSOD's starts almost 2 months of constant coverage on SKY/ESPN/BBC and ITV4.
I thought it was best starting a thread rather than clog up Tikay's. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on November 11, 2012, 12:57:20 PM Good thinking Snowy, but if you suss anything particularly special in the Betting Markets, can you still let us know on Fred, please?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on November 12, 2012, 04:22:53 PM (I know nothing about true "value" - i guess mine is gut feel/would I bet it)
Part looks well priced vs Lewis tonight having watched the opening games - im on Part O'shea played OK yesterday and Ive taken 2.56 for him to beat anderson who cant seem to find his form I also have the following acca - but purely for roffles - i wouldnt bet someone elses money on it ;0) O'Shea Barney Part Jenkins Nicholson 17/1 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 12, 2012, 09:10:35 PM (I know nothing about true "value" - i guess mine is gut feel/would I bet it) Nice startPart looks well priced vs Lewis tonight having watched the opening games - im on Part O'shea played OK yesterday and Ive taken 2.56 for him to beat anderson who cant seem to find his form I also have the following acca - but purely for roffles - i wouldnt bet someone elses money on it ;0) O'Shea Barney Part Jenkins Nicholson 17/1 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on November 12, 2012, 10:10:57 PM Gimme a fucking break!
133 with 6 darts is too many and Anderson finds a double with a single dart! So tilted! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Horneris on November 12, 2012, 11:30:45 PM ha what a joke, so many match darts missed, ul Gee
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 13, 2012, 05:56:34 PM Odds against King to beat Wade looks a great bet although he can afford to lose and still qualify.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bigtadger on November 13, 2012, 06:24:04 PM yeah gotta agree wade looked awful against aron monk who didnt look to clever himself, i fancy a 4 timer myself tonight mark webster,simon whitlock,phil taylor and van gerwin pays just over 5/2 with willy hills !!! if i had a stand out bet it has to be webster to beat co stompe at 4/9 hes playing awful and also king webster double wouldnt be a bad bet either good luck if playing !!!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: George2Loose on November 13, 2012, 09:19:46 PM Tempted to lump on barney tomorrow against jones who looked terrible yesterday
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on November 13, 2012, 09:35:26 PM I love how much of a deal they make of Taylor every match.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 13, 2012, 09:56:55 PM Looking like a Taylor v MvG last 16 if MvG doesn't lose to Hankey.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 13, 2012, 10:47:00 PM Hankey on the MVG 5-0?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on November 13, 2012, 10:54:14 PM Hankey on the MVG 5-0? It all seems a bit odd..... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 13, 2012, 10:57:12 PM Hankey on the MVG 5-0? It all seems a bit odd..... Stewards enquiry after that!! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 13, 2012, 10:57:25 PM Hankey was absoultley steaming drunk, missed the board twice and couldn't subtract 7 from 32.
Will Hearn fine him???Doubt it. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TightEnd on November 14, 2012, 11:07:09 AM I was out last night and caught bits and pieces of Wade and Hankey. I wouldn't noirmally watch Darts, not a sport I have ever clicked with
Wade was a bit worse for wear. Hankey had no control of his faculties Is this acceptable in a professional televised sport seeking advertisers? It just perpetuates an old image of darts that isn't attractive for a casual sport fan like me. Do darts fans care? If you'd paid money to be threre to see Hankey clowning around, would you feel let down, or not bothered? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: class on November 14, 2012, 11:32:59 AM Aftertiming alert, but I was on the 5-0 MVG last night. Did the slow reveal technique this morning and to my delight saw the result was 5-0, and now wish I had watched it too just to see Hankey pissed as a fart!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: class on November 14, 2012, 12:03:26 PM The full match in all it's (not so) glory...
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCXtIAMJ_FY Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on November 14, 2012, 12:40:25 PM Incredible, really, for a sport that wants to gain Olympic status!
Suspend anyone believed to be drunk. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: discomonkey on November 14, 2012, 03:32:18 PM Joke, kind of expect that soprt of stuff from Hankey, but wade should be dissappointed with himself imo..... he is supposed to be a top 5 performer in his sport and a role model etc..... not good at all
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2012, 05:58:37 PM Bad night for Darts tho I wouldn't put the boot into Wade, he clearly has issues and probably shouldn't be on the Main stage at the moment.
No comparison tho compared to Hankey and his pathetic excuses do him no favours, if he was honest and said he had drank more than he should have and was on medication then he would have got more respect. Another Player who won't be seen much of again. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 14, 2012, 06:04:52 PM I was out last night and caught bits and pieces of Wade and Hankey. I wouldn't noirmally watch Darts, not a sport I have ever clicked with Wade was a bit worse for wear. Hankey had no control of his faculties Is this acceptable in a professional televised sport seeking advertisers? It just perpetuates an old image of darts that isn't attractive for a casual sport fan like me. Do darts fans care? If you'd paid money to be threre to see Hankey clowning around, would you feel let down, or not bothered? Hankey was a disgrace last night and his press release today blaming a chest infection was shameful. The modern day fan who goes to the darts probably wouldn't be too bothered though as they go mainly for a piss up, the darts is secondary. Is Hankey turning up like that last night going to put them off going again? I doubt it. As long as people keep going and buying pints then Hearn isn't going to care either. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2012, 06:09:10 PM Wade's missus just tweeted to Hankey
"I hope you feel better soon Ted" Between the Players, Sky and the PDC they ain't half trying to cover it up. It's just a pity Bristow is in the Jungle as he's about the only one who would tell it like it is. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on November 14, 2012, 07:08:56 PM Wade's missus just tweeted to Hankey "I hope you feel better soon Ted" Between the Players, Sky and the PDC they ain't half trying to cover it up. It's just a pity Bristow is in the Jungle as he's about the only one who would tell it like it is. What's Chris Mason saying about it? He's not usually shy in speaking out. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2012, 07:17:39 PM Wade's missus just tweeted to Hankey "I hope you feel better soon Ted" Between the Players, Sky and the PDC they ain't half trying to cover it up. It's just a pity Bristow is in the Jungle as he's about the only one who would tell it like it is. What's Chris Mason saying about it? He's not usually shy in speaking out. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on November 14, 2012, 07:23:12 PM Reminded me of Jimmy White v Peter Fransisco in the world champs a few years ago when Jimmy knew Fransisco wanted to lose 10-1 and tried his hardest to lose another frame to screw their coup.
MVG looked like a non trier in the first leg, wonder if Hankey had bet 5-0? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2012, 07:49:55 PM Reminded me of Jimmy White v Peter Fransisco in the world champs a few years ago when Jimmy knew Fransisco wanted to lose 10-1 and tried his hardest to lose another frame to screw their coup. Fair point as if you watch MvG's facial expressions during and just after the first Leg it's as if he's calling him out.MVG looked like a non trier in the first leg, wonder if Hankey had bet 5-0? Having said that their is no doubt he's had a gutful. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on November 14, 2012, 07:53:10 PM At the risk of sounding contrary, we don't actually know anything more than we saw.
It was not nice to watch, whatever the cause. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 14, 2012, 07:54:56 PM Reminded me of Jimmy White v Peter Fransisco in the world champs a few years ago when Jimmy knew Fransisco wanted to lose 10-1 and tried his hardest to lose another frame to screw their coup. Fair point as if you watch MvG's facial expressions during and just after the first Leg it's as if he's calling him out.MVG looked like a non trier in the first leg, wonder if Hankey had bet 5-0? Having said that their is no doubt he's had a gutful. Having a gutful gives him a convenient excuse. In the first leg he wasn't too bad until he got to 56. Then had 6 darts and didn't get a dart at a double, then he starts the eye rubbing. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on November 14, 2012, 07:56:17 PM was at my old mans last night who rarely if ever watches the darts
told him lets watch hankeys game as he is normally "entertaining" after my old man getting pissed of with skys 30 minute build up about how hankey was one of the great entertainers in sport (ffs) even he was expecting something decent after that debacle he turned to me and said "son if that's entertainment you can keep it" Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2012, 08:04:08 PM was at my old mans last night who rarely if ever watches the darts I don't know if that's a joke or not as Hankey said the same about the PDC at this event 2 years ago.told him lets watch hankeys game as he is normally "entertaining" after my old man getting pissed of with skys 30 minute build up about how hankey was one of the great entertainers in sport (ffs) even he was expecting something decent after that debacle he turned to me and said "son if that's entertainment you can keep it" Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on November 14, 2012, 08:07:18 PM no exactly what he said
my old man would not no his pdc from his bdo Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on November 14, 2012, 08:15:12 PM Reminded me of Jimmy White v Peter Fransisco in the world champs a few years ago when Jimmy knew Fransisco wanted to lose 10-1 and tried his hardest to lose another frame to screw their coup. Fair point as if you watch MvG's facial expressions during and just after the first Leg it's as if he's calling him out.MVG looked like a non trier in the first leg, wonder if Hankey had bet 5-0? Having said that their is no doubt he's had a gutful. Having a gutful gives him a convenient excuse. In the first leg he wasn't too bad until he got to 56. Then had 6 darts and didn't get a dart at a double, then he starts the eye rubbing. That's exactly why I thought it was a bent coup. He wasn't too bad until he looked like he could win the leg. Back opponent to win 5-0 + get pissed out of your brain = profit (with a convenient excuse as to why you performed so badly) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2012, 09:04:31 PM Money did come for MvG before the off.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on November 15, 2012, 01:06:29 PM Couple of small fancies tonight..
I know Dean Winstanley is playing out of his skin, but Monk at 11/4 appeals as value. And for the life of me I can't have Scott Waites as favourite over Robert Thornton. 5/4 about the Thorn is a definite bet to my eyes. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 15, 2012, 01:11:31 PM Couple of small fancies tonight.. I know Dean Winstanley is playing out of his skin, but Monk at 11/4 appeals as value. And for the life of me I can't have Scott Waites as favourite over Robert Thornton. 5/4 about the Thorn is a definite bet to my eyes. I've backed Thornton at 11/8 which was way to big. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 15, 2012, 01:34:23 PM Thornton's not played that well this Tournament and im pretty sure Waites has the best tournament average.He's also got a very good record here.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 15, 2012, 06:05:24 PM I like Hamilton at 11/8, infact I like it a lot. Dolan at odds against is wrong as well.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 15, 2012, 06:26:44 PM The 4 Favs tonight is 4/1 with Hills on their speacial Bet Bundle, take every industry best price on these matches and it still doesn't give you 4s.
If the first 3 come in I will bet Thornton as it's near enough a toss of the coin that match. I like Over 6.5 180's in the Winstanley match 8/11 (as well as the bet I put on Tikays fred), under 8.5 in Taylor match 8/13 and King most 180's v Painter @10/11 I agree with that Bazza,Dolan always seems to be underated by the bookie's, I took him at evens to qualify out the Group which considering it was 2 from any 3 (as Bates is so out of form) was a silly price. His match up v Part looks like one he will grind out and I agree that it's a great price. Hamilton is pretty much the same to the Dolan thoughts except the price is even better. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 15, 2012, 09:48:30 PM That was special, very very special. Taylor very close to his best and MVG smashed him. I have a pretty massive position on MVG for the Worlds...I'm starting to dream!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 15, 2012, 09:52:31 PM That was special, very very special. Taylor very close to his best and MVG smashed him. I have a pretty massive position on MVG for the Worlds...I'm starting to dream!! Great call and a bit of nudging your pick a couple of months back hopefully got a few more on from here.That's probably the best standard of Darts match their has been. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 15, 2012, 09:58:05 PM That was special, very very special. Taylor very close to his best and MVG smashed him. I have a pretty massive position on MVG for the Worlds...I'm starting to dream!! Great call and a bit of nudging your pick a couple of months back hopefully got a few more on from here.That's probably the best standard of Darts match their has been. Yeah was incred. Normally players can stay with Taylor for a while but fade. He got stronger. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 15, 2012, 10:05:05 PM That was special, very very special. Taylor very close to his best and MVG smashed him. I have a pretty massive position on MVG for the Worlds...I'm starting to dream!! Great call and a bit of nudging your pick a couple of months back hopefully got a few more on from here.That's probably the best standard of Darts match their has been. Yeah was incred. Normally players can stay with Taylor for a while but fade. He got stronger. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 15, 2012, 10:44:20 PM Another sick game.
Waites v MvG should be another cracker. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on November 15, 2012, 10:46:50 PM Another sick game. Waites v MvG should be another cracker. Will be a big test for MVG as Waites obviously fancies it. Hopefully he doesn't "bounce". Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 15, 2012, 10:48:12 PM Another sick game. Waites v MvG should be another cracker. Will be a big test for MVG as Waites obviously fancies it. Hopefully he doesn't "bounce". Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 15, 2012, 11:13:11 PM I like Hamilton at 11/8, infact I like it a lot. Dolan at odds against is wrong as well. Moneys coming for Dolan and I can't see the 11/8 Hamilton lasting either.Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Spragg on November 16, 2012, 05:56:42 PM Hankey was absoultley steaming drunk, missed the board twice and couldn't subtract 7 from 32. Will Hearn fine him???Doubt it. He has never really cut it in the PDC.....clearly has the talent but thinks the world owes him a living. He clearly has problems with his mind and should have stayed in the BDO where he belonged and could have won another title there......he was a big fish in a small pond in the BDO like Adams. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Acidmouse on November 16, 2012, 07:45:05 PM hankey had a stroke or is really ill reports coming out...
he went to hossy for more tests and Ct tomorrow..pissed eh? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on November 16, 2012, 07:48:07 PM "Helen Chamberlain @HellsBellsy
Ted Hankey's manager @Davesteveo has confirmed a stroke, high blood pressure & diabetes. 6-8 wks rest & more tests. Wishing Ted well soon." steveo @Davesteveo The docs have confirm that @TedHankeyDarts has had a stroke he's got very high cholesterol and blood pressure and diabetes got to have 6/8 weeks rest and will need more tests in the coming weeks the doctors report will confirm this might use it to sue the people Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on November 16, 2012, 11:50:16 PM Incredible scene on the night and it is the worst news. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 17, 2012, 06:32:47 PM He was Pissed and had been drinking heavily all Day.
I wish him a speedy recovery. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 27, 2012, 01:36:52 PM The last Tv Tournament before the Worlds and it's the most open betting contest that I can remember in a PDC event.
Taylor can be backed at 7/2 which at first glance looks massive but he couldn't have been given a tougher draw, he could be up against Webster/Lewis/MvG/Anderson, Thornton or Whitlock in the semis and Barney in the Final. The bottom half of the draw is as strong as it gets so any outright bets would have to concentrate on the top half, Barney's 12s and Hubryechts@33s look like they could give you a run, Chisnall is another but 9/1 is no price for me on someone who can't be trusted on doubles. Glad to see this is on ITV4 as their production and Commentory is class, only downside is the schedule is a bit tight and an extra couple of Days would have been better. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on November 30, 2012, 07:30:18 PM Chissy lost his first round match 6-0, he was single figures in nearly every book on the outrights.
The top half of the draw is even weaker than before today. One from Wright, Smith, Hubrechyts and Jones will make the semis. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on November 30, 2012, 07:47:09 PM Had a tickle on Dolan to win his quarter.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 01, 2012, 09:43:31 AM Any Lewis updates over night. He has drifted from 16s to 24s?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 01, 2012, 10:28:11 AM Thornton 13/10
Pipe most 180s 4/7 Wright v Jones under 7.5 180s 9/10 Taylor v Lewis under 8.5 180s 9/10 Beaton most 180s 5/4 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 01, 2012, 11:58:50 AM Any Lewis updates over night. He has drifted from 16s to 24s? His Missus had the Baby this morning.Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 02, 2012, 01:41:20 PM Any reason why Anderson is such a big dog to Whitlock?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 02, 2012, 01:52:04 PM Whitlock averaged nearly 110 last night.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 02, 2012, 03:36:28 PM Whitlock averaged nearly 110 last night. This is an insane scoring match Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 02, 2012, 03:51:38 PM WHAT.A.GAME.
real shame Anderson missed those 8s Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 02, 2012, 06:01:47 PM Taylor comes back from 9-5 down to win 10-9 and make his head to head v Hamilton w28 l1
A Hubrechyts v Taylor final would be nice for my book. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 02, 2012, 06:06:41 PM Taylor comes back from 9-5 down to win 10-9 and make his head to head v Hamilton w28 l1 A Hubrechyts v Taylor final would be nice for my book. I had bet Hamilton to lay, which worked out nice but I went a little early! Still have Taylor for the win thou so kinda worked out Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 02, 2012, 06:41:14 PM Taylor comes back from 9-5 down to win 10-9 and make his head to head v Hamilton w28 l1 A Hubrechyts v Taylor final would be nice for my book. I had bet Hamilton to lay, which worked out nice but I went a little early! Still have Taylor for the win thou so kinda worked out Also doesn't help that he could have 3 games in less than 5 Hours Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 02, 2012, 06:55:26 PM Taylor comes back from 9-5 down to win 10-9 and make his head to head v Hamilton w28 l1 A Hubrechyts v Taylor final would be nice for my book. I had bet Hamilton to lay, which worked out nice but I went a little early! Still have Taylor for the win thou so kinda worked out Also doesn't help that he could have 3 games in less than 5 Hours Thanks I think you are right but its not a huge bet so gonna let it ride. Besides, whitlock has crumbled several times against taylor, it could just be his mental strength that lets him down Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 03, 2012, 08:30:23 PM Hubrechyts Taylor final was what I was looking for at the start of the tournament :)
World Champs draw tomorrow, as open as I can remember and that Man Taylor is now bp 2/1. I could make a case for about 10 Players and at the moment Hamilton @40s sticks out but we will wait to see what the draw brings us. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 03, 2012, 08:36:12 PM Hubrechyts Taylor final was what I was looking for at the start of the tournament :) World Champs draw tomorrow, as open as I can remember and that Man Taylor is now bp 2/1. I could make a case for about 10 Players and at the moment Hamilton @40s sticks out but we will wait to see what the draw brings us. <3 you snowball I took a biggish chunk of Hamilton @ 48's a few weeks ago (bet to lay) to contrast that, I have also waded in on Lewis at 9's but he is playing bad and going backwards! I also have a small tickle on Pipe @ 75's Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 03, 2012, 09:00:30 PM Hubrechyts Taylor final was what I was looking for at the start of the tournament :) World Champs draw tomorrow, as open as I can remember and that Man Taylor is now bp 2/1. I could make a case for about 10 Players and at the moment Hamilton @40s sticks out but we will wait to see what the draw brings us. <3 you snowball I took a biggish chunk of Hamilton @ 48's a few weeks ago (bet to lay) to contrast that, I have also waded in on Lewis at 9's but he is playing bad and going backwards! I also have a small tickle on Pipe @ 75's Pipe is a better player than he comes across on Tv but I don't think he has the Bottle to go all the way in a Major yet. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 03, 2012, 10:11:34 PM Hubrechyts Taylor final was what I was looking for at the start of the tournament :) World Champs draw tomorrow, as open as I can remember and that Man Taylor is now bp 2/1. I could make a case for about 10 Players and at the moment Hamilton @40s sticks out but we will wait to see what the draw brings us. Nice call on the Players. Taylor dug me out of a bit of a hole this weekend. I have the lot on MVG from 80/1 down, im hoping his flop this weekend will have a positive effect, won't win unless he sorts his finishing out though. Also have Hamilton 66/1 and Thornton 66/1 in the book. There are not too many dangerous floaters in the 1st round. Winstanley being the obvious one to avoid. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on December 04, 2012, 12:26:50 PM Winstanley v King is a corker in the first round
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 04, 2012, 01:07:24 PM Nice draw for Mighty Mike.
I'm waiting patiently for them to price the matches up. There are a few I have my eye on. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 04, 2012, 01:28:31 PM Betvictor returning outright bets if Taylor wins it.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on December 04, 2012, 01:41:04 PM Kellett beats VDV yes?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on December 04, 2012, 01:48:03 PM I assume they lost in qualifying, but wheres names like Tabern, Suljovic, Hylton, Jelle Klassen & Devon Peterson?
Peterson looked good last year Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 04, 2012, 01:57:44 PM Kellett beats VDV yes? That's one that interests me. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on December 04, 2012, 02:29:18 PM Kellett beats VDV yes? That's one that interests me. VC have all prices up Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 04, 2012, 02:42:43 PM Kellett beats VDV yes? That's one that interests me. VC have all prices up If only I could get on with them or Bwin. Sigh Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on December 04, 2012, 10:54:00 PM Taylor wants to win the Worlds for Sid Waddell. Jesus wept.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on December 14, 2012, 01:40:11 PM ;bump;
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 14, 2012, 01:58:57 PM I assume they lost in qualifying, but wheres names like Tabern, Suljovic, Hylton, Jelle Klassen & Devon Peterson? Peterson looked good last year Not sure what has happened to Peterson. Looked to have a lot of potential but played the tour earlier in the year and did nothing of note. Hasn't played since September. Google will tell you what's happened to Klaasen. Don't think we need to worry about seeing him again. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2012, 02:30:34 PM I remember Peterson posting on Twitter that he needed to go back to South Africa for something and would be back shortly, as far as I know he's not been back since.
Tabern is out of form.Hylton and Suljovic just missed out. I think they should change it to the top 40 who qualify as you will see a couple of absoulte plums who get to the first round as they come from somewhere that very few people play. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2012, 02:33:55 PM I have tingles in my Xmas balls about the darts coming up over the festive period. Hope Mrs Huybrechts gets some screen time.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 05:19:43 PM I assume they lost in qualifying, but wheres names like Tabern, Suljovic, Hylton, Jelle Klassen & Devon Peterson? Peterson looked good last year Not sure what has happened to Peterson. Looked to have a lot of potential but played the tour earlier in the year and did nothing of note. Hasn't played since September. Google will tell you what's happened to Klaasen. Don't think we need to worry about seeing him again. What a strange story about Klaasen. Just been sentenced to community service and a 400 Euro fine. Wonder what he did exactly, and why? Seems like a pretty soft sentence, so probably more to this than meets the eye. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2012, 06:04:28 PM It was MvG's Girfriends Sister who is 15 years old and a mental age of 10.
Seemingly he tried it on in a similiar fashion with other Dart Players Wifes/Girlfriends. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 06:12:02 PM It was MvG's Girfriends Sister who is 15 years old and a mental age of 10. Seemingly he tried it on in a similiar fashion with other Dart Players Wifes/Girlfriends. wtf? What do you mean by "tried it on"? Why was the sentence so light? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 14, 2012, 06:22:30 PM It was MvG's Girfriends Sister who is 15 years old and a mental age of 10. Seemingly he tried it on in a similiar fashion with other Dart Players Wifes/Girlfriends. wtf? What do you mean by "tried it on"? Why was the sentence so light? Article I read said that he sent explicit pictures to her and asked her to send him some of her back. Wrongun by all accounts it seems and not surprisiing he's lying low! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2012, 06:22:45 PM It was MvG's Girfriends Sister who is 15 years old and a mental age of 10. Seemingly he tried it on in a similiar fashion with other Dart Players Wifes/Girlfriends. wtf? What do you mean by "tried it on"? Why was the sentence so light? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 06:31:19 PM Utterly bizarre.
I mean, he's no Steve Beaton, but compared to most darts players he's a good looking bloke and surely would have no problem picking up women? Must have severe issues. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2012, 07:11:55 PM Christmas wouldn't be christmas without the darts. He said it. Legoooooooooo
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 14, 2012, 07:16:08 PM Christmas wouldn't be christmas without the darts. He said it. Legoooooooooo Love it, I just love it! In fact I have just wet my pants in excitement. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 14, 2012, 07:32:01 PM YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMEMyK2hCkQ
Is Thornton playing a Bond henchman? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 08:30:19 PM How is Kevin Painter playing?
This Chinese geezer was pretty bloody impressive Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2012, 08:33:30 PM How is Kevin Painter playing? You think???Averaged 80 and Welge hit 1/10 doubles.This Chinese geezer was pretty bloody impressive Points to 3-0 Painter unless he switches off. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 08:40:24 PM How is Kevin Painter playing? You think???Averaged 80 and Welge hit 1/10 doubles.This Chinese geezer was pretty bloody impressive Points to 3-0 Painter unless he switches off. One bad leg led to that average, take that away he would have averaged 90+. I was impressed anyway. I'll back him at a ridiculous price. And his gf is very cute. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2012, 08:53:00 PM How is Kevin Painter playing? You think???Averaged 80 and Welge hit 1/10 doubles.This Chinese geezer was pretty bloody impressive Points to 3-0 Painter unless he switches off. One bad leg led to that average, take that away he would have averaged 90+. I was impressed anyway. I'll back him at a ridiculous price. And his gf is very cute. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 08:55:01 PM How is Kevin Painter playing? You think???Averaged 80 and Welge hit 1/10 doubles.This Chinese geezer was pretty bloody impressive Points to 3-0 Painter unless he switches off. One bad leg led to that average, take that away he would have averaged 90+. I was impressed anyway. I'll back him at a ridiculous price. And his gf is very cute. I wouldn't. I have never heard of the guy before, have no idea how well or other wise Painter is playing. Just thought it might be worth a speculative punt at a big price, I got 7/1 which was big enough for me. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2012, 08:57:58 PM How is Kevin Painter playing? You think???Averaged 80 and Welge hit 1/10 doubles.This Chinese geezer was pretty bloody impressive Points to 3-0 Painter unless he switches off. One bad leg led to that average, take that away he would have averaged 90+. I was impressed anyway. I'll back him at a ridiculous price. And his gf is very cute. I wouldn't. I have never heard of the guy before, have no idea how well or other wise Painter is playing. Just thought it might be worth a speculative punt at a big price, I got 7/1 which was big enough for me. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 09:06:01 PM How is Kevin Painter playing? You think???Averaged 80 and Welge hit 1/10 doubles.This Chinese geezer was pretty bloody impressive Points to 3-0 Painter unless he switches off. One bad leg led to that average, take that away he would have averaged 90+. I was impressed anyway. I'll back him at a ridiculous price. And his gf is very cute. I wouldn't. I have never heard of the guy before, have no idea how well or other wise Painter is playing. Just thought it might be worth a speculative punt at a big price, I got 7/1 which was big enough for me. Thanks for the kind offer. Think I'll decline. 5/4 with Ladbrokes. God loves a trier. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2012, 09:47:48 PM Gino, Gino, Gino. Has an incred throw. Love how his darts go in.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 14, 2012, 09:50:36 PM Sighhhh!
Can someone give Lewis a wasp please! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 14, 2012, 10:14:54 PM Would back Ady at 1/4 from here!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 14, 2012, 10:44:38 PM Surely if you are walking on to gangnam style you gotta "ride the horse" to the stage!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 14, 2012, 10:51:18 PM YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvpV0Xo-Os
Any walk-on you like <<<< the one above at 4:40 < Hawaii501 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 11:03:06 PM What the actual fuck?
How did I not know about Devilfish playing pro celeb darts? I feel like my life has been missing something. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 14, 2012, 11:04:40 PM can anybody explain why 60% of the crowd spend most of the time shouting at eachother?
fine no problem with it but if you want drink a dance and a bit of verbal just go to your local surely Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 14, 2012, 11:09:34 PM What the actual fuck? How did I not know about Devilfish playing pro celeb darts? I feel like my life has been missing something. There's been an absurd amount of it. Such luminaries as Vicky Butler-Henderson, Michael "Kevin off of Corrie" Le Vell, Johnny Vegas and Rowland Rivron also appeared at the oche. The next thing you watch after watching pro-celeb darts won't feel as good. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 14, 2012, 11:13:57 PM can anybody explain why 60% of the crowd spend most of the time shouting at eachother? fine no problem with it but if you want drink a dance and a bit of verbal just go to your local surely I went to the Premier League a couple of years back at the NIA and could barely have felt more ashamed to be there, such was the level of drunken idiocy on display. There was a guy being sick on the way in! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 14, 2012, 11:14:31 PM What the actual fuck? How did I not know about Devilfish playing pro celeb darts? I feel like my life has been missing something. There's been an absurd amount of it. Such luminaries as Vicky Butler-Henderson, Michael "Kevin off of Corrie" Le Vell, Johnny Vegas and Rowland Rivron also appeared at the oche. The next thing you watch after watching pro-celeb darts won't feel as good. I've seen some of it - saw Rivron, le Vell, Vegas and some others, believe me, I thought it was the best thing ever. Now I know it's the second best thing ever, because Devilfish was on it too and I didn't see it Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 14, 2012, 11:18:51 PM What the actual fuck? How did I not know about Devilfish playing pro celeb darts? I feel like my life has been missing something. There's been an absurd amount of it. Such luminaries as Vicky Butler-Henderson, Michael "Kevin off of Corrie" Le Vell, Johnny Vegas and Rowland Rivron also appeared at the oche. The next thing you watch after watching pro-celeb darts won't feel as good. I've seen some of it - saw Rivron, le Vell, Vegas and some others, believe me, I thought it was the best thing ever. Now I know it's the second best thing ever, because Devilfish was on it too and I didn't see it You, sir, are welcome. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 01:09:55 PM Jerry Hendricks gf/mrs/significant other...
A++++++++++++++ Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 01:14:22 PM Not the best picture, but you get the idea..
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/c0.394.851.315/p851x315/461885_421270437919190_1398472068_o.jpg) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 01:20:11 PM Look our for Gurthreys sister.The best in Darts
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 15, 2012, 02:45:25 PM Gogoggoogo Hubbard. Great lunch time session. Burnett is a proper nice guy but deserves to lose this.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 03:20:06 PM Gogoggoogo Hubbard. Great lunch time session. Burnett is a proper nice guy but deserves to lose this. Haha! Didnt see you post that! Burn! And ship! Now for the Jenkins trifecta, win big but score bad! Oioiiiiiiii Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 03:55:53 PM Wiiiiiiiiiii
Sick sweats on the unders 180 bet! 6 140s in the last set to fade and win! Had Jenkins 3-0 Just sweating the ave unders (92.5) to hit the trifecta Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 03:59:04 PM Norrrrr 94.3
Little sigh Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 05:48:36 PM anyone got any good bets for tonights games?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 06:40:01 PM All my bets currently revolve around Part!
Im kinda all in - wont be watching the game I dont think! (Im really not cool when it comes to sports betting, not sure why I bother !) haha Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: redarmi on December 15, 2012, 07:14:37 PM How is Kevin Painter playing? You think???Averaged 80 and Welge hit 1/10 doubles.This Chinese geezer was pretty bloody impressive Points to 3-0 Painter unless he switches off. One bad leg led to that average, take that away he would have averaged 90+. I was impressed anyway. I'll back him at a ridiculous price. And his gf is very cute. I wouldn't. I have never heard of the guy before, have no idea how well or other wise Painter is playing. Just thought it might be worth a speculative punt at a big price, I got 7/1 which was big enough for me. Thanks for the kind offer. Think I'll decline. 5/4 with Ladbrokes. God loves a trier. Do you reckon God can get on with Ladbrokes? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 07:54:07 PM anyone got any good bets for tonights games? This will start in the next Hour so will have to be quick.Part v Cullen in the Darts. I really like Cullen most 180s in that match, in John Parts last 80 Legs on Tv since last years World Champs he's hit 2 180s. Cullen has hit 9 in 45. Evens Cullen looks good to me with Bet Victor. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 08:35:01 PM Max hopp take a bow son! Very impressive!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 08:51:56 PM For the last two years it's ben bugging me who Joe Cullen is a lookalike of.
Just worked it out. Poker player, Justin Smith. Yes? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 15, 2012, 08:57:04 PM For the last two years it's ben bugging me who Joe Cullen is a lookalike of. Just worked it out. Poker player, Justin Smith. Yes? yes Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 09:18:33 PM This commentator is doing my nut in.
Has he ever seen a 140 which isn't a "lovely ton forty"? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 09:21:19 PM This commentator is doing my nut in. Has he ever seen a 140 which isn't a "lovely ton forty"? Arg! Hadn't heard it till you pointed it out! Grrrrrr Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 09:24:33 PM This commentator is doing my nut in. He should stick to SpeedwayHas he ever seen a 140 which isn't a "lovely ton forty"? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 15, 2012, 09:26:52 PM id probably watch speed way if they went round corners at ton 40
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 09:27:42 PM Joe Cullen's attempts at double top were absolutely pathetic.
Th only time he hit it was when he was going for a big 20! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 15, 2012, 09:28:29 PM id probably watch speed way if they went round corners at ton 40 :D Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 09:29:16 PM This commentator is doing my nut in. Has he ever seen a 140 which isn't a "lovely ton forty"? Arg! Hadn't heard it till you pointed it out! Grrrrrr If isn't a "lovely ton forty", it's a "steady ton" And every player is "playing quite beautifully" Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 09:33:31 PM I thought John part was joking about the mural thing at first.
He is clearly pissed off about it. What a prima donna tosser. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 09:36:27 PM Anyone got thoughts on hopp vs ovens?
I was going to get on, but he has someone gone in favourite?!?!?? Kid seemed to play out of his skin was very confident, but he only averaged 88 ie that's the top of his game? Ovens anyone? I'm torn Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 15, 2012, 09:37:04 PM I thought John part was joking about the mural thing at first. He is clearly pissed off about it. What a prima donna tosser. I think he has a point tbh. Why isn't he up there? I like ovens.. they make food. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 09:38:09 PM I thought John part was joking about the mural thing at first. fypHe is clearly pissed What a prima donna tosser. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 09:42:11 PM I don't think Taylor likes MvG, every interview he has a dig at him.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 15, 2012, 09:43:21 PM I don't think Taylor likes MvG, every interview he has a dig at him. Nah! Taylor mind games innit! Sees him as biggest challenge Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 09:44:09 PM I thought John part was joking about the mural thing at first. fypHe is clearly pissed What a prima donna tosser. :) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 09:44:29 PM Anyone got thoughts on hopp vs ovens? Ovens form runs like thisI was going to get on, but he has someone gone in favourite?!?!?? Kid seemed to play out of his skin was very confident, but he only averaged 88 ie that's the top of his game? Ovens anyone? I'm torn LLWLLLLLLLLLLLWLL Hence why the kid is the Fav Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 15, 2012, 09:44:52 PM Loving Taylor's shirt. Want one.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 15, 2012, 09:47:03 PM Sky went 11/10 Hopp. Price changed as I tried to get on. 85 average from Hopp will likely be enough here.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 15, 2012, 10:02:52 PM Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 10:08:41 PM Under 6.5 180's in Ovens match with Hills.That line is too High.
Most of the others are 4.5 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 15, 2012, 10:17:15 PM £84.99 might need Huybrechts to win the whole thing if i am gonna buy it. http://www.philthepower.com/products-page/dart-shirts/christmas-power-shirt-limited-edition/ (http://www.philthepower.com/products-page/dart-shirts/christmas-power-shirt-limited-edition/) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 15, 2012, 10:17:48 PM Under 6.5 180's in Ovens match with Hills.That line is too High. Most of the others are 4.5 Ive backed that. Also had some Hopp 3-0 at 7/1 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 10:22:56 PM What is with Sky's delayed pictures, I have a scoreboard that updates quicker than supposed "live" pictures.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 10:27:31 PM I'd back Devilfish to beat Mansell at 11/10
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 10:45:00 PM Ovens averaging 52 after the first leg!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 15, 2012, 10:48:16 PM I'd back Devilfish to beat Mansell at 11/10 Been away all day at Cheltenham, playing 'put money on the horse that will come second' (a zero sum game in that zero is the sum I won). Logged into blonde and this was the first post I read. I feel a lot better now, so thank you, Camel! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Jamier-Host on December 15, 2012, 10:49:46 PM Leg 1 was like pub darts. Warming up a bit but wish I bet more on the under 6.5 now!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 15, 2012, 11:19:23 PM Ovens strategy is obviously to try and keep Hopp up past his bedtime.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 15, 2012, 11:35:50 PM Really poor tournament quality wise thus far.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2012, 11:50:08 PM Really poor tournament quality wise thus far. Early Days but it has been poor.That kid looked like he was going to fall asleep. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 16, 2012, 12:18:55 AM £84.99 might need Huybrechts to win the whole thing if i am gonna buy it. http://www.philthepower.com/products-page/dart-shirts/christmas-power-shirt-limited-edition/ (http://www.philthepower.com/products-page/dart-shirts/christmas-power-shirt-limited-edition/) So tempted to get one to wear net week to the darts.....then use as a dish cloth, who buys this stuff? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 16, 2012, 02:03:40 AM £84.99 might need Huybrechts to win the whole thing if i am gonna buy it. http://www.philthepower.com/products-page/dart-shirts/christmas-power-shirt-limited-edition/ (http://www.philthepower.com/products-page/dart-shirts/christmas-power-shirt-limited-edition/) So tempted to get one to wear net week to the darts.....then use as a dish cloth, who buys this stuff? £85?????? claypole obviously has more money than I thought! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 16, 2012, 05:16:21 PM Ok heroes, looking for input
Aaron monk is a biggish dog to Peter wright Worth a little tickle @ 2.36? Seems like a closer game than th numbers to me? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 16, 2012, 05:19:48 PM Ok heroes, looking for input Aaron monk is a biggish dog to Peter wright Worth a little tickle @ 2.36? Seems like a closer game than th numbers to me? Wright is capable of being a better player but I struggle to make anyone of his level a big favourite over short format against someone who has played on TV before. Quite like the bet. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 16, 2012, 05:23:01 PM Ok heroes, looking for input I fancy Wright to win this, he's playing well at the moment.Monk hasn't done anything of note to warrant a bet on him.Aaron monk is a biggish dog to Peter wright Worth a little tickle @ 2.36? Seems like a closer game than th numbers to me? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2012, 05:42:44 PM I've backed Wright. He has come back in to form the last couple of months. Monk is a bit of a hype machine and more likely to average sub 85 than plus 90.
If you want to back Monk then 6/4 is available Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2012, 10:18:40 PM THIS IS BETTER THAN PORN. FACKING LOVE BARNEY.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 16, 2012, 10:23:11 PM THIS IS BETTER THAN PORN. FACKING LOVE BARNEY. He's unplayable in this form, I hope it lasts as I have him in the outrights at 18/1Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 16, 2012, 10:24:16 PM Incred scenes! I was all in on Barney for this! Wiiiiiiiii
But for balance my under 5.5 180s wil not be getting paid! Lol Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2012, 10:29:37 PM THIS IS BETTER THAN PORN. FACKING LOVE BARNEY. He's unplayable in this form, I hope it lasts as I have him in the outrights at 18/1Completely agree. Even though I'm not on him outright there is no person I would like to see win it more. His game is all confidence, he says it's his darts but I don't believe that for a second. If he believes he will win it, he will! WTF was that Smith? absolute clown, guy is trying to showboat. Wish this game was a few sets longer. Incred darts. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 16, 2012, 10:31:53 PM I bet on barney outright at the end of the first set. Quality.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2012, 10:34:03 PM I've been watching darts for as long as I can remember and I don't remember seeing a better first round performance than that. Exquisite darts. What a performance.
BARNEY ARMY, BARNEY ARMY. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 16, 2012, 10:44:42 PM I bet on barney outright at the end of the first set. Quality. What price?Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 16, 2012, 10:46:47 PM I've been watching darts for as long as I can remember and I don't remember seeing a better first round performance than that. Exquisite darts. What a performance. I don't think their has been one better, he's certainly sent out the benchmark to a disapointing Tournament so far with only Thornton bringing is game with him.BARNEY ARMY, BARNEY ARMY. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 16, 2012, 10:49:01 PM I bet on barney outright at the end of the first set. Quality. What price?10/1 only a small throwaway punt where i get to root for a cool guy Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2012, 10:49:13 PM 13/8 for the Finn to win a set seems a bit in the large side to me. Looked competent earlier.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 16, 2012, 10:49:57 PM Gary Anderson's shirt.
Lol. That is all. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 16, 2012, 10:51:18 PM Anderson 1.09??? for someone who notoriously struggles in 1st round matches is far too low, he should win but that's got to be layed.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2012, 11:09:59 PM That will do.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 16, 2012, 11:13:33 PM I like the look of this Finn but I'm not really a darts aficionado.
He looks like he's hurling a javelin to me allbeit pretty damn accurately. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 16, 2012, 11:15:08 PM I'm on Jani for highest checkout, and he grazes a 161! Bad times
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 16, 2012, 11:17:12 PM good game this.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 16, 2012, 11:20:36 PM Jani Jani
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 16, 2012, 11:20:49 PM I'm on Jani for highest checkout, and he grazes a 161! Bad times Oioiiiiiiiiii Good lad! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2012, 02:55:45 PM Anyone else like White tonight?
Under 7.5 180s in that @1.83 looks quite ool to me as well? Edit: This can be had at evs at some places. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 17, 2012, 02:58:50 PM Anyone else like White tonight? Under 7.5 180s in that @1.83 looks quite ool to me as well? The markets like white and have him as fav. Not sure why but I think webby could shake off the blues and step up to the plate tonight! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2012, 03:00:32 PM Anyone else like White tonight? Under 7.5 180s in that @1.83 looks quite ool to me as well? The markets like white and have him as fav. Not sure why but I think webby could shake off the blues and step up to the plate tonight! Webbo has been awful of late I think. Can't see him doing much at all. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 17, 2012, 05:14:24 PM Anyone else like White tonight? Wheres evens for under 7.5?Under 7.5 180s in that @1.83 looks quite ool to me as well? Edit: This can be had at evs at some places. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2012, 05:33:59 PM Webster most 180s at 12/5 is of interest.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2012, 07:07:33 PM Anyone else like White tonight? Wheres evens for under 7.5?Under 7.5 180s in that @1.83 looks quite ool to me as well? Edit: This can be had at evs at some places. Sorry been mad busy at work, best to Ignore me, all over the place. It's 6.5 although I am convinced I saw 7.5.. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2012, 07:23:11 PM Monk's walk on music "I'm sexy and I know it".
#tosser Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2012, 07:25:10 PM Nice haircut..
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2012, 08:00:26 PM Thought John Gwynne had been pensioned off.
The dearth in quality of darts commentators now just makes me miss Sid Waddell all the more. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 17, 2012, 08:03:20 PM Has Monk had a tantrum of some sort?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2012, 08:04:36 PM Has Monk had a tantrum of some sort? He looks a bit like blondepoker hero railtard imo. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2012, 08:07:59 PM The negative of MVG getting in the weak half of the draw is he has Wright in 2nd round rather than Burnett. He will be tested if Wright sharpens up his finishing.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 17, 2012, 08:09:00 PM How Wright was 4/6 in that match only Hills will know.
Monk thinks h's the next Taylor but plays like his Dad. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on December 17, 2012, 08:25:02 PM How Wright was 4/6 in that match only Hills will know. Monk thinks h's the next Taylor but plays like his Dad. Ouch! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2012, 08:49:19 PM Geeeeeeg unders. Didnt think both of em would be firing.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2012, 09:04:27 PM Webster playing great
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2012, 09:06:40 PM Webster playing great MVG's draw looking a whole lot tougher than it was a couple of hours ago! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2012, 09:15:14 PM Completely underestimated how well Webster would play. The guy has raped me. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2012, 09:23:12 PM Webster literally shaking on the oche with those match darts.
Crowd disgraceful imo Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 17, 2012, 09:25:31 PM Feeling very smug about greening out to 95% of my Webster bet after watching those missed doubles!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2012, 09:27:31 PM Crowd a joke. White's conversion rate on the 180s has been painful.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 17, 2012, 09:29:36 PM Delighted he kept his cool to get it home!
Wp fella! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Chompy on December 17, 2012, 09:34:38 PM Hard to think of a bigger cough-up merchant in sport right now than Ian White
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 17, 2012, 09:38:58 PM Crowd a joke. White's conversion rate on the 180s has been painful. You were unlucky there Bazza, thought he was gonna hold! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2012, 09:43:41 PM Crowd a joke. White's conversion rate on the 180s has been painful. You were unlucky there Bazza, thought he was gonna hold! Yeah hit the bar with that one. Been raining 180s all night. Need them to dry up here! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 17, 2012, 10:00:29 PM Crowd a joke. White's conversion rate on the 180s has been painful. You were unlucky there Bazza, thought he was gonna hold! Yeah hit the bar with that one. Been raining 180s all night. Need them to dry up here! I presume you get a push though as he levelled it up and neither side won? Hope for nil conversion rate from now in this match then! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2012, 10:10:56 PM Wade playing fine. Winning 2-0.
Just trudged off the stage for the break looking like he's just been told his cat has been run over. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: BigAdz on December 17, 2012, 10:22:40 PM Wade playing fine. Winning 2-0. Just trudged off the stage for the break looking like he's just been told his cat has been run over. Back in the Priory before Xmas.... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2012, 10:25:25 PM Crowd a joke. White's conversion rate on the 180s has been painful. You were unlucky there Bazza, thought he was gonna hold! Yeah hit the bar with that one. Been raining 180s all night. Need them to dry up here! I presume you get a push though as he levelled it up and neither side won? Hope for nil conversion rate from now in this match then! Sadly not its 3 way result so draw is a loser. Bar again. Sick. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 17, 2012, 10:27:23 PM Crowd a joke. White's conversion rate on the 180s has been painful. You were unlucky there Bazza, thought he was gonna hold! Yeah hit the bar with that one. Been raining 180s all night. Need them to dry up here! I presume you get a push though as he levelled it up and neither side won? Hope for nil conversion rate from now in this match then! Sadly not its 3 way result so draw is a loser. Bar again. Sick. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 17, 2012, 10:44:18 PM Crowd a joke. White's conversion rate on the 180s has been painful. You were unlucky there Bazza, thought he was gonna hold! Yeah hit the bar with that one. Been raining 180s all night. Need them to dry up here! I presume you get a push though as he levelled it up and neither side won? Hope for nil conversion rate from now in this match then! Sadly not its 3 way result so draw is a loser. Bar again. Sick. Not as bad losing if someone wins, but everyone got shafted in that match.... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2012, 11:27:59 PM Best I've ever seen Jamie Cavern play by a country mile.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2012, 11:47:04 PM And he loses!
Gary Anderson better play good in the next round. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 17, 2012, 11:47:58 PM Some game that!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2012, 11:49:24 PM Quality match. Bowles looked like another 80-85ave man in his prelim but added 10 points on to that.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 17, 2012, 11:54:16 PM Amazing from Bowles, i thought Jabba was too short at sp but he played really well.Bowles wouldn't go away.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 18, 2012, 07:24:14 PM First walk on looked incred tonight
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2012, 07:43:03 PM 10/1 Anderson at 0-1.
Beaton has hit a couple of 180s but he's been a bit all over the place. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2012, 07:54:09 PM Trying again at 20/1 0-2.
There's a gnat's chuff between these two. If Anderson get's a on a roll, Beaton is there for the taking imo. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 18, 2012, 08:27:28 PM Be interested to see price of Lewis in next game. Looks pretty solid.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 18, 2012, 08:36:22 PM Be interested to see price of Lewis in next game. Looks pretty solid. Take that back. Horrid 2 legs. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 18, 2012, 08:38:49 PM Be interested to see price of Lewis in next game. Looks pretty solid. Take that back. Horrid 2 legs. 1000/1 with me :) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 18, 2012, 08:41:24 PM Be interested to see price of Lewis in next game. Looks pretty solid. sure picks em! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 18, 2012, 08:45:58 PM Be interested to see price of Lewis in next game. Looks pretty solid. sure picks em! Standard MilliBok. 2012 curse has a few days left to run Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 18, 2012, 09:25:02 PM Thoughts on the 180s in the Kind vs Winstanley match
Line is 7.5 - but surely its going all the way and could easily be a 180 festival? Overs is 1.75? thoughts? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 18, 2012, 09:41:02 PM Thoughts on the 180s in the Kind vs Winstanley match I think the line is correct, fancy Winstanley moat 180's and to win.Line is 7.5 - but surely its going all the way and could easily be a 180 festival? Overs is 1.75? thoughts? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 18, 2012, 09:48:05 PM Thoughts on the 180s in the Kind vs Winstanley match I think the line is correct, fancy Winstanley moat 180's and to win.Line is 7.5 - but surely its going all the way and could easily be a 180 festival? Overs is 1.75? thoughts? >:( - wash your mouth out! I decided to back 3-2 both ways Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2012, 10:41:39 PM Are there any openly gay darts players?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 18, 2012, 11:01:34 PM Great match. After a very slow start the tournament has really picked up.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 18, 2012, 11:04:16 PM Are there any openly gay darts players? all of them if you take away the dart as they throw Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2012, 11:19:50 PM Are there any openly gay darts players? all of them if you take away the dart as they throw Would have bet slight odds on Winstanley was gay, until I saw his Mrs in the crowd tonight. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 18, 2012, 11:24:31 PM Are there any openly gay darts players? all of them if you take away the dart as they throw Would have bet slight odds on Winstanley was gay, until I saw his Mrs in the crowd tonight. I'd guess an American called Bill Davis is tho I don't know if he's open about it. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 18, 2012, 11:37:01 PM Are there any openly gay darts players? all of them if you take away the dart as they throw Would have bet slight odds on Winstanley was gay, until I saw his Mrs in the crowd tonight. I'd guess an American called Bill Davis is tho I don't know if he's open about it. That will be why he looks 40+ Some nice prices on the 180 line in this match. Could get 5/4 both sides. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 18, 2012, 11:38:40 PM Are there any openly gay darts players? all of them if you take away the dart as they throw Would have bet slight odds on Winstanley was gay, until I saw his Mrs in the crowd tonight. I'd guess an American called Bill Davis is tho I don't know if he's open about it. That will be why he looks 40+ Some nice prices on the 180 line in this match. Could get 5/4 both sides. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2012, 11:40:56 PM How is Osborne still in the top 32?
He's been crap for years and now deteriorating. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 18, 2012, 11:41:12 PM Are there any openly gay darts players? all of them if you take away the dart as they throw Would have bet slight odds on Winstanley was gay, until I saw his Mrs in the crowd tonight. I'd guess an American called Bill Davis is tho I don't know if he's open about it. That will be why he looks 40+ Some nice prices on the 180 line in this match. Could get 5/4 both sides. 4.5 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 18, 2012, 11:48:17 PM Are there any openly gay darts players? I'm not sure but the commentator just referred to "the philipporno", so possibly. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 19, 2012, 12:04:13 AM This Ilagn is soooo tilting!
He was quite a big price so I took a bit! and also backed 3-2 @ 12's! Pretty much spunking away every chance! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2012, 01:46:09 AM Are there any openly gay darts players? all of them if you take away the dart as they throw Would have bet slight odds on Winstanley was gay, until I saw his Mrs in the crowd tonight. I'd guess an American called Bill Davis is tho I don't know if he's open about it. wait. wat? Winstanley is 31? He looks about 45 minimum Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2012, 02:06:16 AM He's almost 32 though :D
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on December 19, 2012, 12:35:24 PM Are there any openly gay darts players? all of them if you take away the dart as they throw Would have bet slight odds on Winstanley was gay, until I saw his Mrs in the crowd tonight. I'd guess an American called Bill Davis is tho I don't know if he's open about it. Nicholson surely, always thought he was over compensating with bad boy "hard man" act? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 19, 2012, 03:11:14 PM any good things tonight boys? fancy getting involved
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 19, 2012, 03:13:30 PM ill be on baxter to beat priestly
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2012, 03:16:46 PM ill be on baxter to beat priestly Think he was looking for advice from shrewd punters Guy. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 19, 2012, 03:17:32 PM really want people to tell me to back the menace, loved this guy for years, yorkshire lad, whole family wednesday fans.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 19, 2012, 03:21:47 PM ill be on baxter to beat priestly Think he was looking for advice from shrewd punters Guy. :D >:( Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 19, 2012, 05:45:28 PM I like Dennis @6/4, his Floor form the past couple of months has been superb and it includes a 6-3 victory over Baxter.
Their hth has Baxter ahead 7-4 over the years but they have never met in a Major so all of these are short formats first to 6 Legs. I wouldn't imagine Priestleys slow play would favour Baxter. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2012, 11:38:18 PM Webster v Llloyd, how do we price this up?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on December 19, 2012, 11:40:09 PM Webster v Llloyd, how do we price this up? 8/11 5/4 ? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 19, 2012, 11:50:10 PM Webster v Llloyd, how do we price this up? 8/11 5/4 ? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2012, 11:57:13 PM Webster v Llloyd, how do we price this up? 8/11 5/4 ? I said on messenger, I'd back Webster at 4/5 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 20, 2012, 12:18:34 AM Webster v Llloyd, how do we price this up? 8/11 5/4 ? I said on messenger, I'd back Webster at 4/5 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 20, 2012, 09:41:58 AM Webster 4/7
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 20, 2012, 09:47:01 AM Webster 4/7 Do you fancy Kellet tonight?Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 20, 2012, 02:56:46 PM At the prices I'd rather be with VDV. VDV has had a poor year but he tends to play well here. Kellett hasn't pulle up any trees on the pro tour so I'd need a bit bigger than 6/4 to get involved here. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on December 20, 2012, 03:14:23 PM Anyone know much of Darren Webster?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 20, 2012, 03:40:14 PM Anyone know much of Darren Webster? Made the quarters back in '07. Disappeared after that but got his tour card this year and done pretty well on the Pro Tour making one semi and two quarter finals. I backed him at 11/4. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 20, 2012, 05:36:35 PM At the prices I'd rather be with VDV. VDV has had a poor year but he tends to play well here. Kellett hasn't pulle up any trees on the pro tour so I'd need a bit bigger than 6/4 to get involved here. While Kellet may not have as much Tv experience he did beat Fitton in the first round of the BDO last year and won the PDC qualifier taking the impressive Bowles in the final. I think 6/4 Kellet is a good bet. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2012, 09:53:47 PM Some game that was and a shame they both met in the first round!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2012, 10:55:26 PM If you are from Asia and you play darts is it mandatory to have gangnam style as your walk on music?
[ x ] racist stereotyping Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 20, 2012, 11:11:25 PM If Kellet had any Bottle he could have won that 3-0.
Best avoided on Tv. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 21, 2012, 11:23:30 AM Burnett has been complete dogshit in the last 3 tournaments yet the BV line for his average is 91.5. That seems about 3 or 4 points too high for me.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 21, 2012, 05:12:49 PM Thoughts on Nicholson vs Thornton pls
I know Thornton is playing out of his skin, but Nicholson is coming back to form, stopped the antics and lost the stupid tie Value in Nicholson @ 2.88? Thinking of wading in heavy? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 21, 2012, 05:17:58 PM Bowles bottling those double tops! Great game, Anderson finding the 180s for fun.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 21, 2012, 05:18:05 PM Bowles doesnt want to win ffs
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 21, 2012, 06:26:45 PM Thoughts on Nicholson vs Thornton pls Really fancy Thirnton.I know Thornton is playing out of his skin, but Nicholson is coming back to form, stopped the antics and lost the stupid tie Value in Nicholson @ 2.88? Thinking of wading in heavy? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 21, 2012, 06:29:17 PM Thoughts on Nicholson vs Thornton pls Really fancy Thirnton.I know Thornton is playing out of his skin, but Nicholson is coming back to form, stopped the antics and lost the stupid tie Value in Nicholson @ 2.88? Thinking of wading in heavy? Even @ 1.5? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 21, 2012, 07:08:21 PM Nicholson v Thornton depends on Nicholsons mindset. The crowd is going to be at it's must vocal, lairy and obnoxious best tonight. Will he thrive or succumb to this? I hope he thrives and shows his price is too big!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 21, 2012, 07:16:38 PM Nicholson v Thornton depends on Nicholsons mindset. The crowd is going to be at it's must vocal, lairy and obnoxious best tonight. Will he thrive or succumb to this? I hope he thrives and shows his price is too big! Agreed. If he comes home the bar bill is on me tomorrow :0) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 21, 2012, 07:21:09 PM Nicholson v Thornton depends on Nicholsons mindset. The crowd is going to be at it's must vocal, lairy and obnoxious best tonight. Will he thrive or succumb to this? I hope he thrives and shows his price is too big! Agreed. If he comes home the bar bill is on me tomorrow :0) Get! Although it may be lighter than expected, am duty driver and Santa will be waking up with a sore head due to excessive drinks today. Only one punt from me, speculative on Part for the most 180s, 4s was worth a nibble especially if he turns it on. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 21, 2012, 07:42:51 PM Burnett has been complete dogshit in the last 3 tournaments yet the BV line for his average is 91.5. That seems about 3 or 4 points too high for me. Thank you. No idea if it got home early or not, but the money is in my Account. Lovely. I thought it was tonight, so I just turned it on to watch it. Too late, home & hosed hours ago! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 21, 2012, 08:33:58 PM Burnett has been complete dogshit in the last 3 tournaments yet the BV line for his average is 91.5. That seems about 3 or 4 points too high for me. Thank you. No idea if it got home early or not, but the money is in my Account. Lovely. I thought it was tonight, so I just turned it on to watch it. Too late, home & hosed hours ago! Yeah was an early kick off. Won handily enough. Lewis line of 95.5 is too high. Since the Matchplay he has only averaged above that once against Taylor at the Players. Hit 83 ave in 1st round and struggles to get up for matches against weak opposition. Ovens was awful in his first round so Lewis will just need to go through the motions to win handily enough. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 21, 2012, 08:35:17 PM Thoughts on Nicholson vs Thornton pls Really fancy Thirnton.I know Thornton is playing out of his skin, but Nicholson is coming back to form, stopped the antics and lost the stupid tie Value in Nicholson @ 2.88? Thinking of wading in heavy? Even @ 1.5? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 21, 2012, 08:42:31 PM ^^^^
Lovely, thanks, have had a small interest. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2012, 08:45:03 PM Never seen a player miss a big 20 before.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 21, 2012, 09:15:31 PM get some of the prelim players back, these two are both awful
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 21, 2012, 09:20:51 PM thornton looks really agitated out there, few bounce outs and hes shaking head, hes usually pretty chilled
the referees and players must have been told by the powers that be to just expect the crowd to be rowdy and off putting, i think its great crack but not sure how happy the players are about it. theres no way if this was happening a couple of years ago that the referee wouldnt have spoken up by now Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 21, 2012, 10:09:18 PM The wife is loving this match. Bouncing up n down on the sofa and only put it on to watch the power :)
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 21, 2012, 10:12:16 PM Bloody awful, the pair of them.
I'm on Nicholson as I couldn't see as much of a difference between them as Mr Betfair could. I wish he could finish... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2012, 10:24:26 PM This commentator is doing my nut in. Has he ever seen a 140 which isn't a "lovely ton forty"? Arg! Hadn't heard it till you pointed it out! Grrrrrr If isn't a "lovely ton forty", it's a "steady ton" And every player is "playing quite beautifully" Add to that list "what a last dart" or "what a leg of darts". Most annoying commentator on any sport since Ted Lowe. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2012, 10:34:37 PM Crowd disgraceful again.
Booing during a sudden death leg. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 21, 2012, 10:37:12 PM This commentator is doing my nut in. Has he ever seen a 140 which isn't a "lovely ton forty"? Arg! Hadn't heard it till you pointed it out! Grrrrrr If isn't a "lovely ton forty", it's a "steady ton" And every player is "playing quite beautifully" Add to that list "what a last dart" or "what a leg of darts". Most annoying commentator on any sport since Ted Lowe. "Absolutely terrific darts" No. No it wasn't. They scored 180s but neither could finish. Both think they should be in the elite bracket and neither is close ATM. So inconsistent. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 21, 2012, 10:39:15 PM So fucking sigh!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 21, 2012, 10:42:06 PM So fucking sigh! Also this. Can't eat value etc Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 21, 2012, 10:46:39 PM Back and forth like a dirty Den and Ange barney on Christmas Day. So Siiiigh.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 21, 2012, 10:54:52 PM Back and forth like a dirty Den and Ange barney on Christmas Day. So Siiiigh. ha ha Craig. Easy to see why you n milly are such good matesHendrix punishes Phil for getting in the wrong bed Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 21, 2012, 11:19:05 PM Best Player won in the last match.Thornton had stopped the Head shaking before tonight but he seemed to come in and out of the match, when he was on his game Nicholson couldn't live with him.
I fancy Thornton to play better against Taylor in the next match. Crazy amount of 180's today, Anderson hit 19 alone, possibly more than he hit in his entire PL campaign. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2012, 11:23:55 PM Best Player won in the last match.Thornton had stopped the Head shaking before tonight but he seemed to come in and out of the match, when he was on his game Nicholson couldn't live with him. I fancy Thornton to play better against Taylor in the next match. Crazy amount of 180's today, Anderson hit 19 alone, possibly more than he hit in his entire PL campaign. This reminds me. Where is Dubai? Hasn't been online for two weeks.. Would have thought this was his favourite punting fortnight. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2012, 11:37:11 PM Taylor v Thornton, how would you bet it?
1/4 Taylor? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 21, 2012, 11:38:21 PM Best Player won in the last match.Thornton had stopped the Head shaking before tonight but he seemed to come in and out of the match, when he was on his game Nicholson couldn't live with him. I fancy Thornton to play better against Taylor in the next match. Crazy amount of 180's today, Anderson hit 19 alone, possibly more than he hit in his entire PL campaign. This reminds me. Where is Dubai? Hasn't been online for two weeks.. Would have thought this was his favourite punting fortnight. Been on hols with family I believe - going to darts with him and a bunch of others tomorrow Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2012, 11:39:47 PM Best Player won in the last match.Thornton had stopped the Head shaking before tonight but he seemed to come in and out of the match, when he was on his game Nicholson couldn't live with him. I fancy Thornton to play better against Taylor in the next match. Crazy amount of 180's today, Anderson hit 19 alone, possibly more than he hit in his entire PL campaign. This reminds me. Where is Dubai? Hasn't been online for two weeks.. Would have thought this was his favourite punting fortnight. Been on hols with family I believe - going to darts with him and a bunch of others tomorrow Fancy dress I assume? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 21, 2012, 11:58:53 PM Best Player won in the last match.Thornton had stopped the Head shaking before tonight but he seemed to come in and out of the match, when he was on his game Nicholson couldn't live with him. I fancy Thornton to play better against Taylor in the next match. Crazy amount of 180's today, Anderson hit 19 alone, possibly more than he hit in his entire PL campaign. This reminds me. Where is Dubai? Hasn't been online for two weeks.. Would have thought this was his favourite punting fortnight. Been on hols with family I believe - going to darts with him and a bunch of others tomorrow Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 22, 2012, 12:05:47 AM Taylor v Thornton, how would you bet it? You will get better than that, 1.35 on the Machine I would say.Anthing lower is a lay.1/4 Taylor? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 22, 2012, 12:07:35 AM Taylor v Thornton, how would you bet it? You will get better than that, 1.35 on the Machine I would say.Anthing lower is a lay.1/4 Taylor? I was hoping for 1/4 to lay. Posted this when he was 2-1 up, in last 2 sets he got worse, doubt we will be able to lay him at anything below 1.4 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 22, 2012, 12:28:02 AM Best Player won in the last match.Thornton had stopped the Head shaking before tonight but he seemed to come in and out of the match, when he was on his game Nicholson couldn't live with him. I fancy Thornton to play better against Taylor in the next match. Crazy amount of 180's today, Anderson hit 19 alone, possibly more than he hit in his entire PL campaign. This reminds me. Where is Dubai? Hasn't been online for two weeks.. Would have thought this was his favourite punting fortnight. Been on hols with family I believe - going to darts with him and a bunch of others tomorrow Fancy dress I assume? was suggested...wasn't embraced, no love for it - I think Pab was the biggest desenter Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 22, 2012, 12:34:03 AM Best Player won in the last match.Thornton had stopped the Head shaking before tonight but he seemed to come in and out of the match, when he was on his game Nicholson couldn't live with him. I fancy Thornton to play better against Taylor in the next match. Crazy amount of 180's today, Anderson hit 19 alone, possibly more than he hit in his entire PL campaign. This reminds me. Where is Dubai? Hasn't been online for two weeks.. Would have thought this was his favourite punting fortnight. Been on hols with family I believe - going to darts with him and a bunch of others tomorrow Fancy dress I assume? was suggested...wasn't embraced, no love for it - I think Pab was the biggest desenter Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 22, 2012, 12:35:33 AM Even Torres could tap this one in...
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 22, 2012, 02:38:21 AM BetVictor are way out of line in their 180 markets for the weekends games.
My ac was gg ages ago but some nice value bets available for any that are able to get on. Probs wldnt pile tho as wld most likely gg yr ac too, but if yr sensible u can def rinse em. Example: Painter match-the total 180's line is at 12.5, every1 else is 9.5. I thought it was a palp error but it's the same in almost every 180 market they offer. Player individual totals are also well out of sync. Appears either the trader is a genius and everyone else is wrong, or they have some1 who can't get the spreads right at all. I know which one i believe. My own fancy for tmrw is Barney over 6.5 180's@11/10 with blue square. A pretty outa sync price compared to the general 4/6, but at least I can get on with this firm to some degree, and I just love the bet anyway. RVB had 8 in his first round stroll and imo the somewhat underrated Dolan could nick a set or 2 and stretch out the match a little over the best of 7 format. Am also on the over 9.5 180's total for the match@4/5 with the same firm, most firms have the line at 10.5, BV go 12.5! Can't wait for Sunday afternoon as i'm heading to see the arrows, 4 of us supposed to be going altho some1 dropping out means I have a spare. May just use the extra seat to hold all my winnings! :) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 22, 2012, 04:10:04 AM Nicholson v Thornton depends on Nicholsons mindset. The crowd is going to be at it's must vocal, lairy and obnoxious best tonight. Will he thrive or succumb to this? I hope he thrives and shows his price is too big! Agreed. If he comes home the bar bill is on me tomorrow :0) Get! Although it may be lighter than expected, am duty driver and Santa will be waking up with a sore head due to excessive drinks today. Only one punt from me, speculative on Part for the most 180s, 4s was worth a nibble especially if he turns it on. Woke up on the couch about an hour ago and sure can get back to sleep. Gonna be a loooooonnnnnng day. Ul Guy, such a sigh. Must have been pretty damn heavy on Nicholson to cover the bar bill! Gutted. Shaun, one time write a sign for us all. Struggling to think of suggestions atm. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 22, 2012, 05:48:58 AM Oioi. Going to Saturday evening session, 20 of us in total
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 22, 2012, 08:47:58 AM BetVictor are way out of line in their 180 markets for the weekends games. My ac was gg ages ago but some nice value bets available for any that are able to get on. Probs wldnt pile tho as wld most likely gg yr ac too, but if yr sensible u can def rinse em. Example: Painter match-the total 180's line is at 12.5, every1 else is 9.5. I thought it was a palp error but it's the same in almost every 180 market they offer. Player individual totals are also well out of sync. Appears either the trader is a genius and everyone else is wrong, or they have some1 who can't get the spreads right at all. I know which one i believe. My own fancy for tmrw is Barney over 6.5 180's@11/10 with blue square. A pretty outa sync price compared to the general 4/6, but at least I can get on with this firm to some degree, and I just love the bet anyway. RVB had 8 in his first round stroll and imo the somewhat underrated Dolan could nick a set or 2 and stretch out the match a little over the best of 7 format. Am also on the over 9.5 180's total for the match@4/5 with the same firm, most firms have the line at 10.5, BV go 12.5! Can't wait for Sunday afternoon as i'm heading to see the arrows, 4 of us supposed to be going altho some1 dropping out means I have a spare. May just use the extra seat to hold all my winnings! :) Good spot Dom, though not exactly a straight line comparision, Victor goes 8/11, the rest 10/11. Still a good price, no doubt, but I thought it worth mentioning it is not quite as good as it may seem. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 22, 2012, 09:51:40 AM Oioi. Going to Saturday evening session, 20 of us in total what you off as or are you in the Claypole party?Forget that I've seen your dress sense as well. Will defo get some TV time Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 22, 2012, 10:40:00 AM I got up at 5am this morning to pack and get ready to fly to Ireland to spend the festive period with the other halfs family. We are just about to leave for Gatwick when she decides to double check the boarding cards and it transpires that I've booked the wrong day and we don't fly until tomorrow. Gives me another day of darting fix before I have to go cold turkey for six days. Best of it is I'm not even in the doghouse as she was hungover from her works Xmas party so was glad she could go back to bed.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 22, 2012, 11:13:44 AM Im literally in the same Boat as you as im on the Boat to Ireland as I post this.
I was hoping you would be about the next few Days as I won't be able to do as much research of the markets as id like.Will be back for the 28th tho so not missing too much. Where you heading? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 22, 2012, 11:17:58 AM For balance after tonight I do not plan on leaving the house until ny eve and I will have sports on 24/7, primarily consisting of darts and footy. The mother in law will moan but thats why there is a tv in the garage.. Wiiiiiiiii
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 22, 2012, 11:23:20 AM For balance after tonight I do not plan on leaving the house until ny eve and I will have sports on 24/7, primarily consisting of darts and footy. The mother in law will moan but thats why there is a tv in the garage.. Wiiiiiiiii (http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/tikay2/royle.jpg) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 22, 2012, 11:38:19 AM Im literally in the same Boat as you as im on the Boat to Ireland as I post this. I was hoping you would be about the next few Days as I won't be able to do as much research of the markets as id like.Will be back for the 28th tho so not missing too much. Where you heading? I'm going to Tullamore, Co Offaly. They don't have Sky or wifi and getting to the pub to watch it will be easier said than done. I have an agreement though that I get to see MVG's matches. I'm back on the 28th as well so getting today was a bonus. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 22, 2012, 11:41:07 AM BetVictor are way out of line in their 180 markets for the weekends games. My ac was gg ages ago but some nice value bets available for any that are able to get on. Probs wldnt pile tho as wld most likely gg yr ac too, but if yr sensible u can def rinse em. Example: Painter match-the total 180's line is at 12.5, every1 else is 9.5. I thought it was a palp error but it's the same in almost every 180 market they offer. Player individual totals are also well out of sync. Appears either the trader is a genius and everyone else is wrong, or they have some1 who can't get the spreads right at all. I know which one i believe. My own fancy for tmrw is Barney over 6.5 180's@11/10 with blue square. A pretty outa sync price compared to the general 4/6, but at least I can get on with this firm to some degree, and I just love the bet anyway. RVB had 8 in his first round stroll and imo the somewhat underrated Dolan could nick a set or 2 and stretch out the match a little over the best of 7 format. Am also on the over 9.5 180's total for the match@4/5 with the same firm, most firms have the line at 10.5, BV go 12.5! Can't wait for Sunday afternoon as i'm heading to see the arrows, 4 of us supposed to be going altho some1 dropping out means I have a spare. May just use the extra seat to hold all my winnings! :) Good spot Dom, though not exactly a straight line comparision, Victor goes 8/11, the rest 10/11. Still a good price, no doubt, but I thought it worth mentioning it is not quite as good as it may seem. I know what you are saying mate. However, when that line was up skybet for example went 8/11 on painter +9.5, yet bet victor went 8/11 +12.5. Obv the overs was an awful bet with them, but the under 12.5 at something near evens i believe-was lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvely. Line is back at 9.5 this morning, after hopefully some peeps punisheddddddddddddddd them. :) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 22, 2012, 11:45:05 AM Im literally in the same Boat as you as im on the Boat to Ireland as I post this. I was hoping you would be about the next few Days as I won't be able to do as much research of the markets as id like.Will be back for the 28th tho so not missing too much. Where you heading? I'm going to Tullamore, Co Offaly. They don't have Sky or wifi and getting to the pub to watch it will be easier said than done. I have an agreement though that I get to see MVG's matches. I'm back on the 28th as well so getting today was a bonus. Tell the family he plays twice every day. Gotta be done. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 22, 2012, 12:27:30 PM Im literally in the same Boat as you as im on the Boat to Ireland as I post this. I was hoping you would be about the next few Days as I won't be able to do as much research of the markets as id like.Will be back for the 28th tho so not missing too much. Where you heading? I'm going to Tullamore, Co Offaly. They don't have Sky or wifi and getting to the pub to watch it will be easier said than done. I have an agreement though that I get to see MVG's matches. I'm back on the 28th as well so getting today was a bonus. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 22, 2012, 01:48:34 PM Incred number of 180s past 2 days. These two aren't even big 180 hitters.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: BigAdz on December 22, 2012, 01:49:34 PM Baxter always seems too happy when he's losing to me....
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 22, 2012, 01:56:32 PM on MVG at 33-, light at the end of the tunnel for 2012! Dont see him winning though so might have to break my golden rule and lay some off at some point :(
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 22, 2012, 01:58:09 PM on MVG at 33-, light at the end of the tunnel for 2012! Dont see him winning though so might have to break my golden rule and lay some off at some point :( IMO he's too short now, so this is a good lay spot. (But don't take my word for it :) ) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 22, 2012, 02:09:34 PM Not a lot of money for it atm though. can lay at 6/1 on bf and i wouldnt back at that price atm.... but i think i'll wait another couple of rounds :)
Or could just be a man and let it ride, Hedging is for Gardeners after all :P Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 22, 2012, 02:21:51 PM Not a lot of money for it atm though. can lay at 6/1 on bf and i wouldnt back at that price atm.... but i think i'll wait another couple of rounds :) you not in the group of 20 at ally pally?Or could just be a man and let it ride, Hedging is for Gardeners after all :P Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 22, 2012, 02:24:06 PM Not a lot of money for it atm though. can lay at 6/1 on bf and i wouldnt back at that price atm.... but i think i'll wait another couple of rounds :) Or could just be a man and let it ride, Hedging is for Gardeners after all :P If he beats Wright - which he will - he faces either Webster or Lloyd. Both have surprised me with the way they played first up. Winner of that match will be a tough one for MvG Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 22, 2012, 02:25:48 PM Colin Lloyd, you smooth mover lol
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 22, 2012, 02:52:23 PM Due to their draws we haven't seen what Taylor, MVG or Lewis have in the locker yet. MVG will get tested against Wright (more so than against Webster/Lloyd imo) who can average 95+. We will have an idea of what sort of form he is in then.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 22, 2012, 03:40:46 PM That result doesn't do MVG's chances any harm.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 22, 2012, 05:02:35 PM That result doesn't do MVG's chances any harm. yh for sure. He looks good enough just seemed joke shaky on the doubles MVG and you get punished pretty hard in this tourney for that. Dennis Ovens was available at 14 on BF against Lewis who can be completely hit or miss seems like a bet to me. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 22, 2012, 10:21:35 PM Bazza mentioned last night that the Lewis line was too high at 95.5 against Ovens tonight.
Lewis is currently 2-0 up in sets, and averaging 85.41. Fingers crossed. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: BigAdz on December 22, 2012, 10:23:24 PM I know Lewis is no oil painting, but he looks awful tonight.
I that baby is keeping him up, will take it toll in a long tourny Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 22, 2012, 10:31:03 PM Lewis could start getting all three of his darts in the board each throw, might be a good idea.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: kukushkin88 on December 22, 2012, 10:33:37 PM I know Lewis is no oil painting, but he looks awful tonight. I that baby is keeping him up, will take it toll in a long tourny I´ve laid him for the the max and then a little bit to win it. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 22, 2012, 10:58:38 PM Bazza mentioned last night that the Lewis line was too high at 95.5 against Ovens tonight. Lewis is currently 2-0 up in sets, and averaging 85.41. Fingers crossed. Well done Bazza. Lewis averaged 87.95. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 22, 2012, 11:01:43 PM Bazza mentioned last night that the Lewis line was too high at 95.5 against Ovens tonight. Lewis is currently 2-0 up in sets, and averaging 85.41. Fingers crossed. Well done Bazza. Lewis averaged 87.95. TY. Christmas was cancelled if that hadn't landed! Not a bad day for MVG with Webster going out and Lewis flopping again. Hopefully he fires tomorrow night. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 22, 2012, 11:16:33 PM Walsh hasn't averaged above 90.5 on TV all year. Pipe tends to drag people down as well due to his slow play. Can get 8/11 under 90.5.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 22, 2012, 11:24:10 PM Hi, oh hai der! Mr fish here!
I just weighed in on my Lewis bet to win! No way he plays lIke that when it counts! Now officially my bIggest ever bet to win! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2012, 01:37:48 AM mmmmmm
well you're right(ish) and he is capable of just stepping it up and producing the best at any moment problem he has is that there are a LOT of players left who will take a LOT OF BEATING and im not convinced Adrian Lewis going 85% genius 15% totally fucking up will be enough .... gl though, well good luck ish cos obv want MVG to win lol but luck all the same Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Killerkilsby on December 23, 2012, 09:54:29 AM Going to the darts now for the lunchtime session any recommended bets so i can have a sweat while i watch?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 23, 2012, 10:02:06 AM Going to the darts now for the lunchtime session any recommended bets so i can have a sweat while i watch? Pipe (unlucky watching him), Winstanley and Wade treble for the session. Or you could have overs at 9, on number of occasions the crowd will sing and stand, 'stand up if you love the darts, stand up if you love the darts'. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 23, 2012, 10:03:16 AM Am going myself and cannot wait!
Have bet on everything, my fave being Beaton most 180's@5/4 with blue sq and billy hills v wade. Imo he should be clear fave in this market, wade can take it or leave it on the 180's, while the bronzed one is prolific on the red bit. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 23, 2012, 10:04:11 AM Going to the darts now for the lunchtime session any recommended bets so i can have a sweat while i watch? Pipe (unlucky watching him), Winstanley and Wade treble for the session. Or you could have overs at 9, on number of occasions the crowd will sing and stand, 'stand up if you love the darts, stand up if you love the darts'. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 23, 2012, 12:42:30 PM Winstanlry over 6.5 and overs in the match.Beaton at 5/4 m maxes is huge as already pointed out and also good odds to win the match as im not convinced Wade is capable of his form of old at this moment.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 01:00:54 PM somebody i respect has told me to back winstanley over 6.5 today
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 23, 2012, 01:28:51 PM So I am waiting to back Pipe when he goes 2 nil down v Walsh, although the price changes back to the pre match odds and walshy is 11/8. So I press and get on, now obv on Pipe at 9/4 so it's green city. What's the deal with Ladbrokes, will they honour the first bet?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2012, 02:16:42 PM Just got in.
Why is Walsh wearing a black armband? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 02:17:31 PM one of the old players partner passed away recently
sorry missed the name Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 02:45:22 PM Ive not been paid out properly on betfair. What do I do?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: BigAdz on December 23, 2012, 02:52:25 PM Ive not been paid out properly on betfair. What do I do? LOL. Ring em up, or send an email..... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 02:52:55 PM Ive not been paid out properly on betfair. What do I do? My bad, I thought I had won but instead chopped it on pipe average! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 02:54:39 PM How many decimal places can I go to to claim a winning bet? Seems unlikely it was exactly 92.5
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2012, 03:00:10 PM How many decimal places can I go to to claim a winning bet? Seems unlikely it was exactly 92.5 This is a very good question. Is it in the rules? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 03:09:21 PM How many decimal places can I go to to claim a winning bet? Seems unlikely it was exactly 92.5 This is a very good question. Is it in the rules? No specifics and therefore it seems 92.5 is th exact line? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: BigAdz on December 23, 2012, 03:19:27 PM Was just gonna say how bad he looked. WOOOOOOOP WOOOOOOOP!!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 03:25:50 PM Hmmmmm
This gets weirder! The bet showed in my settled account and now it's disappeared! Just got an email saying this "One or more of your bets, placed on the market has been voided/lapsed by Betfair. Whilst these bets were all placed in good faith, in order to be fair to all users we have had to void/lapse them. Should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us by..." How can it be voided post play? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 03:29:59 PM deano weighed in
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 23, 2012, 03:30:26 PM Good work gentelman
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2012, 03:30:59 PM Hmmmmm This gets weirder! The bet showed in my settled account and now it's disappeared! Just got an email saying this "One or more of your bets, placed on the market has been voided/lapsed by Betfair. Whilst these bets were all placed in good faith, in order to be fair to all users we have had to void/lapse them. Should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us by..." How can it be voided post play? The chances of it being exactly 92.5 is pretty remote. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 23, 2012, 03:58:27 PM He missed big 1 !!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 03:59:02 PM superb game that
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2012, 03:59:16 PM John Gwynne can gfto.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 03:59:31 PM Hmmmmm This gets weirder! The bet showed in my settled account and now it's disappeared! Just got an email saying this "One or more of your bets, placed on the market has been voided/lapsed by Betfair. Whilst these bets were all placed in good faith, in order to be fair to all users we have had to void/lapse them. Should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us by..." How can it be voided post play? The chances of it being exactly 92.5 is pretty remote. Just spoke with them and they say it was 92.5, going to investigate Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 04:00:36 PM John Gwynne can gfto. ""one of the most stupid darts i have ever seen thrown" i am not criticising him!!!" makes sense that john bristow is so much better in the box calm understated not screaming like a maniac like nigel "any sport on sky" pearson Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2012, 04:20:00 PM what a ridic game. great call on the overs bet wpwp
Looking forward to the next round some sick games coming up I fancy a bit of a barnstorming from Taylor tonight you know i reckon he's going to be fired UP and go crazzzy he's 2.6 for most 180's he's got a very tough game though. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 05:13:28 PM beaton needs gelding imo here are the in running comments
started slowly, driven along 4 out looked beaton, soon back on bridle found nothing Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 23, 2012, 05:45:35 PM Is John Gwynne the two-bob Eddie Waring impersonator?
If so he pisses me off no end.. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 23, 2012, 06:34:58 PM Anybody got a view on most 180s in Taylor game. I am too hungover, due to darts to do any form of statistical analysis; i appreciate Taylor has looked awful, however 9/5 seems well out of line with Paddy
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 23, 2012, 07:41:49 PM Anybody got a view on most 180s in Taylor game. I am too hungover, due to darts to do any form of statistical analysis; i appreciate Taylor has looked awful, however 9/5 seems well out of line with Paddy I swear i looked late last night and Thornton was 5/4 but now he's heavy odds on.I think Thornton will hit more. MvG is having double trouble again Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 23, 2012, 07:44:23 PM anyone want 14/5 on Thornton to win?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 23, 2012, 07:52:56 PM uh oh, Im taking the Christmas tree down if it goes 3-0 here
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 23, 2012, 08:24:00 PM Pretty sick display from MVG since 0-2
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 23, 2012, 08:31:27 PM uh oh, Im taking the Christmas tree down if it goes 3-0 here Phew, I've told the kids they can wrap their pressies up again. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 23, 2012, 08:32:12 PM uh oh, Im taking the Christmas tree down if it goes 3-0 here Phew, I've told the kids they can wrap their pressies up again. like Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 23, 2012, 08:32:44 PM uh oh, Im taking the Christmas tree down if it goes 3-0 here Phew, I've told the kids they can wrap their pressies up again. :D That performance once he woke up definitely inspires some confidence! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 23, 2012, 08:33:29 PM uh oh, Im taking the Christmas tree down if it goes 3-0 here Phew, I've told the kids they can wrap their pressies up again. :D That performance once he woke up definitely inspires some confidence! Marky - I think he looks a bit like you :) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 23, 2012, 08:33:40 PM uh oh, Im taking the Christmas tree down if it goes 3-0 here Phew, I've told the kids they can wrap their pressies up again. :D That performance once he woke up definitely inspires some confidence! he looked scary there didn't he. The faster he went the better he got too. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 08:38:20 PM great game there and well done to both
i am quite big with Thornton later on both in the 180's handicap (with 1.5 sets) and outright match markets taylor has been moaning again on audioboo about being on last, he made similar sort of excuses before the players Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 23, 2012, 08:40:01 PM MVG = This good.
Easy Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 23, 2012, 08:41:15 PM I heart Thornton
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 23, 2012, 09:27:05 PM anyone want 14/5 on Thornton to win? Offer still stands Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 09:32:45 PM Claypole
Taylor has not been prolific on the 180s this year. He is also much quicker to switch than other players. Haven't looked at the line but bear this in mind. I had a winning unders bet. Also bear in mind the fewer legs if Taylor turns up and destroys someone! Gl Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 09:34:00 PM Am I going crazy?!
Lewis has drifted to 15s for outright. Every time he drifts I just wanna load up! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 09:38:23 PM 12-2 in maxes to jenkins
he is losing 3-1 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 23, 2012, 09:40:04 PM Absolute clown - never been so tilted darts punting, moronic finishing - 180s for show, doubles for dough
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 23, 2012, 09:43:39 PM he looked scary there didn't he. The faster he went the better he got too. Definitely the strongest performance thus far alongside Barney's round 1 and hopefully he'll start like that going forward! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 23, 2012, 09:47:24 PM Am I going crazy?! Lewis has drifted to 15s for outright. Every time he drifts I just wanna load up! Lewis having late nights, struggling with his game. MVG looking good, you already have a nice pay day if he scoops. My advice is be a nit, nit it up, be happy with your postion. You are either right or wrong, why put more money on? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 09:50:09 PM and terry hits the double 19 on first attempt the hardest double to hit
come on terry one more set please later the better for taylor Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 09:52:43 PM Am I going crazy?! Lewis has drifted to 15s for outright. Every time he drifts I just wanna load up! Lewis having late nights, struggling with his game. MVG looking good, you already have a nice pay day if he scoops. My advice is be a nit, nit it up, be happy with your postion. You are either right or wrong, why put more money on? Yeah, guess I'm happy with my position, probs right! Just don't think there are going to be too many times he is this long for the worlds Solid nit advice sir ;0) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 09:57:39 PM As much as I love Taylor, there will be no tears if Thornton muffs him tonight given my Hamilton position
Can't anti rail him but like I say, no tears if he goes! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 23, 2012, 10:00:24 PM Thornton seems really big at 4.0? I've tickled for interest
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 23, 2012, 10:08:13 PM over the years this is when taylor comes out and averages 110
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 10:11:46 PM agreed
Thornton just nos he can beat him though Phil moaning again he is on last Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: sweet potata! on December 23, 2012, 10:14:48 PM agreed Thornton just nos he can beat him though Phil moaning again he is on last He used to like being on last so he could get his opponent to sign the board after being spanked. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 23, 2012, 10:56:56 PM agreed Thornton just nos he can beat him though Phil moaning again he is on last He used to like being on last so he could get his opponent to sign the board after being spanked. Terrible commentating this year. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 23, 2012, 11:03:22 PM went well
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 23, 2012, 11:05:28 PM my sign last night was, merry xmas Wadd N ALL, got no camera love :( really miss him
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 27, 2012, 12:47:00 AM Vincent Van der Voort vs James wade 3.75 seems like a good bet to me, Wade hardly been anything impressive for me.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 27, 2012, 08:21:53 AM Those 2 days felt like a year off he darts. The missus said she will drop the inlaws off at the station this aft so I don't miss a single dart. Wiiiiiiiii. Duh duddah duh duhhhhh. Think today could produce some of the best tv yet. Legoooooo
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 09:41:18 AM Barney vs anderson tonight has the potential to be incredible! Possibly the best game of darts ever if they both turn up
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 09:45:33 AM The line on 180s in that match is 18.5 and is trading at 2.4
Too much of a gamble incase one doesnt turn up? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 27, 2012, 12:54:43 PM The line on 180s in that match is 18.5 and is trading at 2.4 Too much of a gamble incase one doesnt turn up? 16.5 on paddypower at evens Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 27, 2012, 02:39:17 PM Never seen Whitlock so demonstrative on the oche.
Has he got the needle with Chisnall for some reason? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 03:47:17 PM INCREDIBLE ARRAS
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 27, 2012, 03:49:27 PM Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 27, 2012, 03:53:03 PM Sighs. ReAlly wanted to see Chizzy punk through there. Great game. That 152 checkout was incred
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 03:53:21 PM That 152 was out of this world! Broke Chizzys Soul
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 27, 2012, 03:56:00 PM sick sick sick final set!!
on VDV here for heavies at 3.95 - 4.1 cant see a single way thats not value. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 03:57:38 PM St Helens accents ftw! Its sooooooooooo specific its hilarious!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: kpnuts on December 27, 2012, 04:01:22 PM smashed into VdV most 180s @ 5/4 bluesq here. Cmon the Dutchman!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2012, 04:05:58 PM Wade walk on music.......classic
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 04:17:18 PM sick sick sick final set!! on VDV here for heavies at 3.95 - 4.1 cant see a single way thats not value. I So nearly posted I'd sooner take 4-0 wade! After timing ftw! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 27, 2012, 04:19:24 PM sick sick sick final set!! on VDV here for heavies at 3.95 - 4.1 cant see a single way thats not value. I So nearly posted I'd sooner take 4-0 wade! After timing ftw! IMO it's almost impossible for any darts player to 3/1 in a first to 4 match even if one player is 150% the player the other one is. I'm in for more on VdV at 6.8! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 27, 2012, 04:24:04 PM bounce outs gona kill him :(
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 27, 2012, 04:30:13 PM obviously not ideal that.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 04:31:03 PM sick sick sick final set!! on VDV here for heavies at 3.95 - 4.1 cant see a single way thats not value. I So nearly posted I'd sooner take 4-0 wade! After timing ftw! IMO it's almost impossible for any darts player to 3/1 in a first to 4 match even if on player is 150% the player the other one is. I'm in for more on VdV at 6.8! I agree especially as wadey can obv flip out Keep loading up! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 27, 2012, 04:48:00 PM wont be loading up anymore!
Thing is though it's literally 2 darts away from being 2-1 VDV with the throw for 3-1 which, imo has to make 3-1 pre/game at least a pretty decent bet! Decent bets dont pay the bills though :( Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 27, 2012, 04:55:59 PM I So nearly posted I'd sooner take 4-0 wade! After timing ftw! ! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 27, 2012, 04:56:50 PM Wade plays terribly again and pisses up.
I'm going to go broke opposing him before the tournament is over. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 04:58:32 PM Wade plays terribly again and pisses up. I'm going to go broke opposing him before the tournament is over. Think we watched a different game! It's his doubles that bring him home Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: vegaslover on December 27, 2012, 05:26:37 PM Wade plays terribly again and pisses up. I'm going to go broke opposing him before the tournament is over. Think we watched a different game! It's his doubles that bring him home Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 27, 2012, 07:15:25 PM No idea about the RVB game, it would be nice if they both decide to turn up. No bets, just going to enjoy it.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 07:17:37 PM No idea about the RVB game, it would be nice if they both decide to turn up. No bets, just going to enjoy it. no bets for me either, but if anyone wants one 4-3 both ways looks incred at 6.2 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 27, 2012, 07:18:30 PM Barney is just a better player in this format for me.
Plenty of 180s but Barney, MvG and Painter (I know...) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ACE2M on December 27, 2012, 07:19:32 PM 9/2 Loyd looks big against MVG to me?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 27, 2012, 07:21:35 PM 9/2 Loyd looks big against MVG to me? Will need a huge performance from Lloyd (>100) but he can do it. Lloyd's aggression might play to MvG's strengths as he seems to like pace. I'm expecting a close one so maybe you're right. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2012, 07:21:47 PM 9/2 Loyd looks big against MVG to me? 6.8 on Betfair, but if the Van Gerwen who played the last 4 sets against Wright turns up Lloyd will be out of there in less than an hour..... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 27, 2012, 07:22:36 PM 9/2 Loyd looks big against MVG to me? People will be saying that the 3/1 available for MVG to win the worlds is value in a weeks time! Loving how the commentators initialised the darts players and we are continuing the trend. #initialsforthewin Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ACE2M on December 27, 2012, 07:25:27 PM 9/2 Loyd looks big against MVG to me? 6.8 on Betfair, but if the Van Gerwen who played the last 4 sets against Wright turns up Lloyd will be out of there in less than an hour..... true. I've liked Loyd the last few games though, he plays really well in patches and not total shit like he used to at other times. MVG got bad feet and looked a bit ropey the other night until 'showing up' Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2012, 07:28:02 PM I'm watching without sound. Have they said why MVG is lame?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 27, 2012, 07:29:22 PM I'm watching without sound. Have they said why MVG is lame? Achilles Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2012, 07:29:43 PM 9/2 Loyd looks big against MVG to me? 6.8 on Betfair, but if the Van Gerwen who played the last 4 sets against Wright turns up Lloyd will be out of there in less than an hour..... true. I've liked Loyd the last few games though, he plays really well in patches and not total shit like he used to at other times. MVG got bad feet and looked a bit ropey the other night until 'showing up' That wincing isn't too good for confidence as the match progresses though. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2012, 07:31:12 PM I'm watching without sound. Have they said why MVG is lame? Achilles Looks in a fair bit of pain. FML Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ACE2M on December 27, 2012, 07:34:07 PM I haven't kept up with the thread btw, so apologies if you are all on MVG at big prices....
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 27, 2012, 07:35:31 PM I haven't kept up with the thread btw, so apologies if you are all on MVG at big prices.... There may be the odd person on at 66's! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2012, 07:49:46 PM Throwing well all things considered, don't think he'd want to be up there longer than 4 sets though!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 27, 2012, 07:51:03 PM Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ACE2M on December 27, 2012, 07:55:40 PM bold, asking for trouble that... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 27, 2012, 08:11:44 PM Gooooo stumpy
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ACE2M on December 27, 2012, 08:16:31 PM Love to know what he changed that suddenly made him so consistently good.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 27, 2012, 08:20:33 PM Love to know what he changed that suddenly made him so consistently good. His hairstyle? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 08:30:46 PM sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo revvd up for this
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 27, 2012, 08:31:27 PM sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo revvd up for this +1 O16.5 180s lets gooooo Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 08:39:43 PM ;yippee; ;sark; ;karabiner; Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on December 27, 2012, 08:43:11 PM ;yippee; ;sark; ;karabiner; Ha ha brilliant first set wasn't it and good for the 180s bet as well. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 09:15:15 PM 4-0 was 12.0
anyone gamble? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 27, 2012, 09:18:04 PM As sky kept saying "this is going to be the greatest game ever seen on sky...ever in darts ever..."
4-0 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 27, 2012, 09:18:20 PM How awful was Anderson, jesus.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 09:18:45 PM disapointaments
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on December 27, 2012, 09:20:13 PM Huge anticlimax, Barney didn't even have to play well to win 4-0.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Skippy on December 27, 2012, 09:28:56 PM Giving a good interview, though.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 27, 2012, 09:31:06 PM Barney is just a better player in this format for me. Plenty of 180s but Barney, MvG and Painter (I know...) Come on then, Painter! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 27, 2012, 09:31:53 PM Barney is just a better player in this format for me. Plenty of 180s but Barney, MvG and Painter (I know...) Come on then, Painter! Im on exact same treble. gl us Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 09:35:05 PM time for Adey to show up IMO
gowwaannnnn fella Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 27, 2012, 10:17:46 PM Well hello there Mr 11 Darter!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 10:24:37 PM adrian lewis, calling the real adrain lewis, if you could report to the oche for set 5
kthnx Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2012, 10:30:45 PM Painter fancies this
Edit - Bok Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on December 27, 2012, 10:44:05 PM He's so horribly inconsisent Lewis but he is obviously incredibly talented and he loves the big moments - so he's always gonna win titles
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 27, 2012, 10:46:44 PM He's so horribly inconsisent Lewis but he is obviously incredibly talented and he loves the big moments - so he's always gonna win titles so that! He usually steps up to each opponent too! If he can improve as much again for the next match, im loving my bet! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 27, 2012, 10:56:47 PM He's so horribly inconsisent Lewis but he is obviously incredibly talented and he loves the big moments - so he's always gonna win titles so that! He usually steps up to each opponent too! If he can improve as much again for the next match, im loving my bet! Deffo a big threat to the stumpy coup now. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2012, 11:09:23 PM He's so horribly inconsisent Lewis but he is obviously incredibly talented and he loves the big moments - so he's always gonna win titles so that! He usually steps up to each opponent too! If he can improve as much again for the next match, im loving my bet! Deffo a big threat to the stumpy coup now. This. Under pressure he is as good as anyone and tends to bring it when it really matters. Needs to add a few points to his scoring to live with MM though Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 28, 2012, 09:58:32 AM Hamilton looks tasty at 4.5 tonight
Also correct scores of 5-3 and 5-4 Hamilton at 15 & 13 respectively! A healthy punt IMO. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 28, 2012, 10:36:16 AM Hamilton looks tasty at 4.5 tonight good luck but pretty sure he is playing "The Power"Also correct scores of 5-3 and 5-4 Hamilton at 15 & 13 respectively! A healthy punt IMO. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 28, 2012, 02:31:07 PM taylor absolutely huge price tonight
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 28, 2012, 08:37:16 PM That was ridiculously good - just so so impressive....I'd back him v Taylor
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2012, 08:41:02 PM My man crush used to be Ryan Gosling it's now Raymond van muva fkin Barneveld! Take a bow son.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Leatherman on December 28, 2012, 08:41:18 PM Glad to see Barny throwing like a beast...
Good Final ahead of us... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on December 28, 2012, 08:46:00 PM Whitlocks not done a lot wrong there and got absolutely hammered, brilliant stuff from Barney.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2012, 08:56:40 PM Whitlocks not done a lot wrong there and got absolutely hammered, brilliant stuff from Barney. 101 average, eight 180s, a couple 100+ shot outs and 2-0 down...... He was probably wondering wtf was going on! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 28, 2012, 09:40:29 PM sky are going to be gutted that all these "huge games" are absolute no shows in terms of a contest
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2012, 09:53:01 PM sky are going to be gutted that all these "huge games" are absolute no shows in terms of a contest Just saying to my mate, although Taylor has played better each round his opponents on the most part have just rolled over. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 28, 2012, 10:11:08 PM wtf is Taylor saying?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 28, 2012, 10:12:00 PM wtf is Taylor saying? Can't see a telly. Would someone elaborate? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 28, 2012, 10:15:07 PM wtf is Taylor saying? Can't see a telly. Would someone elaborate? well it started with friendly ish banter about Barney He then went on to say "some of the things barney has told me" wanting to die in his sleep inferred wife left him just redic stuff trying to play mind games Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2012, 10:16:43 PM wtf is Taylor saying? Can't see a telly. Would someone elaborate? well it started with friendly ish banter about Barney He then went on to say "some of the things barney has told me" wanting to die in his sleep inferred wife left him just redic stuff trying to play mind games 100% Bang out of order imo. I know I wouldn't be happy if I had said something to a 'mate' in confidence and he blurts it out on national tv. Pretty dirty. GO ON BARNEY!!!!!!! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 28, 2012, 10:19:24 PM wtf is Taylor saying? Can't see a telly. Would someone elaborate? well it started with friendly ish banter about Barney He then went on to say "some of the things barney has told me" wanting to die in his sleep inferred wife left him just redic stuff trying to play mind games I missed this interview, but if true Taylor can GTFO. He went down in my estimation.... ( a la keegan) no need in the public eye! Taylor FO Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2012, 10:26:07 PM I missed it, but my mate said the same to me when I came back and he thought it was well out of order.
Started out friendly before moving on to stuff that was obviously told to him in confidence as a friend. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 29, 2012, 11:50:00 AM horrible from taylor that interview but par for the course
lets hope tonights action is better than this classic leg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49xYlgoeCo Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 29, 2012, 11:55:39 AM horrible from taylor that interview but par for the course lets hope tonights action is better than this classic leg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49xYlgoeCo Watched that as it happened, felt bad for Fleet at the time as he was so nervous, but watching it back now I'm cracking up. Dropping the darts and hitting double 1 is the best bit. Standard BDO. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 29, 2012, 12:32:06 PM Oh my that's brilliant! Adams hardly covering himself in glory either
The double 1 is brilliant Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 29, 2012, 05:47:20 PM I'm at darts again - permed 5-4 both games...need some more bets, I'm a degen - what do we fancy boys
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 29, 2012, 05:52:34 PM I like O17.5 180s MVG v Lewis @ 10/11 betvictor
and U15.5 in wade/newton bluesq 4/5 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2012, 05:54:18 PM I'm at darts again - permed 5-4 both games...need some more bets, I'm a degen - what do we fancy boys Some life m8, some life...... I'm just praying that MVG has managed to get himself into better nick for tonight, these longer matches can't be any good for him and with a bit of luck he can just steamroller Lewis! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 29, 2012, 06:04:42 PM I took the early evens on Newton most 180's V Wade, best price 5/6 now with lads still seems fair to me tho, make him nearer a 4/6 shot.
Despite this I still think Wade will just have way too much experience for Newton here and have played on the handicap -1.5@11/8. In regards to the Mvg match i'm mainly sweating my outright bet on the dutchman, but may play on the checkout markets. Both players can checkout dizzy numbers in their sleep and I can see some large outshot being taken out. So probs gonna play on +137.5 checkout @9/10 for a fun sweat. Wish I was there! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 29, 2012, 07:21:51 PM Newton wins on music. Fact.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 29, 2012, 07:22:54 PM ...and everyone knows The Machine is Oliver Ortmann...
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 29, 2012, 08:12:20 PM I took the early evens on Newton most 180's V Wade, best price 5/6 now with lads still seems fair to me tho, make him nearer a 4/6 shot. Despite this I still think Wade will just have way too much experience for Newton here and have played on the handicap -1.5@11/8. In regards to the Mvg match i'm mainly sweating my outright bet on the dutchman, but may play on the checkout markets. Both players can checkout dizzy numbers in their sleep and I can see some large outshot being taken out. So probs gonna play on +137.5 checkout @9/10 for a fun sweat. Wish I was there! Newton 180 bet is more or less weighed in, unforts the handicap bet aint looking so healthy! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 29, 2012, 08:15:54 PM John Gwynne has the most annoying voice ever, boy I miss Sid.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 29, 2012, 09:03:59 PM Forgot to say before this kicked off, Bristow has come across as a massive prick this year imo. Used to like the guy. Can't stand him now.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: mondatoo on December 29, 2012, 09:13:04 PM Fantastic Darts this for a last set decider.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 29, 2012, 09:14:27 PM Forgot to say before this kicked off, Bristow has come across as a massive prick this year imo. Used to like the guy. Can't stand him now. Have to say I had the pleasure of his company for a day a few years ago while the Las Vegas Desert Classic was going on (long, thin story...) He was a top notch fella. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 29, 2012, 09:29:48 PM great piece of editing on the barney/taylor stuff
taken adey in the next - way too big on the markets - although I accept its gonna be tough - but that said longer it goes on I favour Lewis for both injusry reasons and mindset Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2012, 09:51:53 PM More of the same please Lewis!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 29, 2012, 10:00:18 PM more of the same please Michael
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 29, 2012, 10:01:08 PM more of the same please Michael Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ForthThistle on December 29, 2012, 10:03:08 PM Forgot to say before this kicked off, Bristow has come across as a massive prick this year imo. Used to like the guy. Can't stand him now. Have to say I had the pleasure of his company for a day a few years ago while the Las Vegas Desert Classic was going on (long, thin story...) He was a top notch fella. Cliffs please. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 29, 2012, 10:03:33 PM wow
Just read TfT - didnt realise people were on MVG for the world - ill keep quite for rest of night as if I was sweating that I wouldnt wanna see anti railers! If I dont win I hope you do! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TightEnd on December 29, 2012, 10:06:52 PM wow Just read TfT - didnt realise people were on MVG for the world - ill keep quite for rest of night as if I was sweating that I wouldnt wanna see anti railers! If I dont win I hope you do! at prices from 100-1, 80-1 to 50-1...quite a few people, from several months ago whatever happens, has been quite a ride. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2012, 10:09:09 PM Goooooooo stumpy ;cheerleader;
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 29, 2012, 10:24:35 PM Worry not Guy, whatever happens we have had tremendous fun with MVG. I'll not lose any sleep if we get turned over tonight, but it'd be neat to keep the fun going a little longer. Not sure those who stand to win four figure sums agree with that though... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 29, 2012, 10:33:41 PM Oi Oi 138 finish Jackpot
Now stuff him Mikey! ...omg 7 perfect darts Mvg-so close! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 29, 2012, 10:42:02 PM Im asking for my one time now.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on December 29, 2012, 10:43:33 PM You can have two Phil. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 29, 2012, 10:44:00 PM I like O17.5 180s MVG v Lewis @ 10/11 betvictor and U15.5 in wade/newton bluesq 4/5 Did the wade/newton game go under? I missed it Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 29, 2012, 10:47:08 PM MVGGGGGGG!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 29, 2012, 10:48:29 PM I like O17.5 180s MVG v Lewis @ 10/11 betvictor and U15.5 in wade/newton bluesq 4/5 Did the wade/newton game go under? I missed it Went over thanks to mad last set, was a vul bet mate, think was like 17 or so in the game, but was like 11 going in2 last set. Just seen there was 16, so harsh! http://www.pdc.tv/news/article/1g50abvbtt4gd1sdk30is48daf/title/ladbrokes-wdc-day-13 (http://www.pdc.tv/news/article/1g50abvbtt4gd1sdk30is48daf/title/ladbrokes-wdc-day-13) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 29, 2012, 10:48:48 PM WHAT.A.GAME.OF.DARTS
that shaghai could just have saved MVG and his mind Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 29, 2012, 10:56:25 PM WHAT.A.GAME.OF.DARTS Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 29, 2012, 10:57:05 PM watching thru my fingers now
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: mondatoo on December 29, 2012, 10:57:14 PM WHAT.A.GAME.OF.DARTS Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: mondatoo on December 29, 2012, 11:02:27 PM OMG
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 29, 2012, 11:02:34 PM OMFG. One of the best legs of darts ive ever seen! Insane stuff. So much bottle.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 29, 2012, 11:03:33 PM OMFG. One of the best legs of darts ive ever seen! Insane stuff. So much bottle. these two wont let Barney or Taylor have a chance :)Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on December 29, 2012, 11:03:39 PM Epic arrers.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Waz1892 on December 29, 2012, 11:04:11 PM WHAT.A.GAME.OF.DARTS Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: mondatoo on December 29, 2012, 11:04:46 PM They said it was best Q/F ever, before this last set, lol.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 29, 2012, 11:05:22 PM Best game I think for pure entertainment i've ever seen!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 29, 2012, 11:06:54 PM MVGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 29, 2012, 11:07:07 PM MVG MVG MVG MVG MVG!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2012, 11:07:30 PM [ ] Rubbish
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 29, 2012, 11:08:01 PM What a game! Probably just cost me a lot of money!
Hope everyone on MVG gets paid now! Adey missing 2 at double top! Unheard of Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 29, 2012, 11:08:41 PM What a game, Ady played amazing to hang in there but MVG is on another level like Dane Bowers!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 29, 2012, 11:09:39 PM What a game, Ady played amazing to hang in there but MVG is on another level like Dane Bowers! This and This Best game I think for pure entertainment i've ever seen! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: mondatoo on December 29, 2012, 11:10:03 PM Wonderful Darts, congrats all on MVG.
MVG v Taylor in the final. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on December 29, 2012, 11:10:34 PM Not sure which of these two speaks better English.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 29, 2012, 11:11:01 PM We need Steve McClaren for translation!!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2012, 11:14:15 PM That's the greatest game of Darts I have ever seen, thought MVG was dusted a couple times and hopefully it's not as nerve racking tomorrow!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 29, 2012, 11:16:12 PM All dutch final would be pretty incred. Crowd would be so loud I would have to put the tv on mute.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 29, 2012, 11:16:21 PM I almost followed thru with excitement when he hit that double.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 29, 2012, 11:17:32 PM That's the greatest game of Darts I have ever seen, thought MVG was dusted a couple times and hopefully it's not as nerve racking tomorrow! Wade's 91 avg is not going to trouble MVG. wp wp Mr Conning who permed the 5 v 4's oi oi! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ACE2M on December 29, 2012, 11:18:27 PM Sometimes darts is just perfect entertainment. GL MVG backers
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 29, 2012, 11:21:58 PM Buzzing with so much adrenaline I feel like going out for a run after that. Will probs have another mince pie and watch MOTD in fastforward instead..
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 29, 2012, 11:28:23 PM Wonderful Darts, congrats all on MVG. MVG v Barney in the final. Fyp Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 29, 2012, 11:35:00 PM Wonderful Darts, congrats all on MVG. MVG v Barney in the final. Fyp Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bigtadger on December 29, 2012, 11:56:48 PM loving the nearly followed through line , lmfao class !!! :) i really belive barney can beat taylor and i need him to for a nice little treble !!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 30, 2012, 12:11:56 AM What price was the 5/4 double tonight?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: kpnuts on December 30, 2012, 12:19:34 AM Mighty Mike @ 1/4 more 180s v Wade free monies?
Think MVG had more tonight than JW has hit in whole tourney. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 30, 2012, 01:44:57 AM What price was the 5/4 double tonight? James Wade to win 5 - 4 @ 5/1 Wes Newton to win 5 - 4 @ 11/2 Adrian Lewis to win 5 - 4 @ 6/1 Michael Van Gerwen to win 5 - 4 @ 5/1 Doubles, 4 bets * £31.00 28/12/2012 22:09:58 124.00 1,116.00 about that ;) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2012, 01:49:40 AM What price was the 5/4 double tonight? James Wade to win 5 - 4 @ 5/1 Wes Newton to win 5 - 4 @ 11/2 Adrian Lewis to win 5 - 4 @ 6/1 Michael Van Gerwen to win 5 - 4 @ 5/1 Doubles, 4 bets * £31.00 28/12/2012 22:09:58 124.00 1,116.00 about that ;) Well done and all that. But getting 8/1 about both semis finishing 5-4 seems like a completely tez price! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Horneris on December 30, 2012, 01:50:57 AM haha I was about to post that but I thought Trigg would just think I was being a hater
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 30, 2012, 01:55:03 AM in whose eyes is it a tez price? you two who are darts odds compilers? or just punters with an opinion like me?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Horneris on December 30, 2012, 02:02:00 AM Punters with an opinion, just seems like if the night was played out again say 90 times 5-4 either way in both games would happen less than 10 times on ave.
Did you have a nice result on some horses aswell I noticed on facebook, another trixie? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 30, 2012, 02:08:20 AM Punters with an opinion, just seems like if the night was played out again say 90 times 5-4 either way in both games would happen less than 10 times on ave. Did you have a nice result on some horses aswell I noticed on facebook, another trixie? never mind that. "it just seems like" what credentials make it just seem like to you? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Horneris on December 30, 2012, 02:13:24 AM I answered your question, "just a punter with an opinion"
No need to turn all douchey when I'm interested in your racing win. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 30, 2012, 02:17:26 AM I answered your question, "just a punter with an opinion" No need to turn all douchey when I'm interested in your racing win. its a problem i have with punters in general. People always seem to think they know 100% what is value, and if the value selection loses then we are gonna win in the long term. The true fact is very very few people are qualified to be a judge at any given sport. Therefore everyone else's idea of value is superfluous. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2012, 02:24:34 AM I answered your question, "just a punter with an opinion" No need to turn all douchey when I'm interested in your racing win. its a problem i have with punters in general. People always seem to think they know 100% what is value, and if the value selection loses then we are gonna win in the long term. The true fact is very very few people are qualified to be a judge at any given sport. Therefore everyone else's idea of value is superfluous. Given the choice between having that bet and laying it, I know which I would have chosen. You were right, you won, spend all the monies on hookers and blow. Congrats. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on December 30, 2012, 03:24:37 AM I answered your question, "just a punter with an opinion" No need to turn all douchey when I'm interested in your racing win. its a problem i have with punters in general. People always seem to think they know 100% what is value, and if the value selection loses then we are gonna win in the long term. The true fact is very very few people are qualified to be a judge at any given sport. Therefore everyone else's idea of value is superfluous. Given the choice between having that bet and laying it, I know which I would have chosen. You were right, you won, spend all the monies on hookers and blow. Congrats. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 30, 2012, 03:27:35 AM I answered your question, "just a punter with an opinion" No need to turn all douchey when I'm interested in your racing win. its a problem i have with punters in general. People always seem to think they know 100% what is value, and if the value selection loses then we are gonna win in the long term. The true fact is very very few people are qualified to be a judge at any given sport. Therefore everyone else's idea of value is superfluous. Given the choice between having that bet and laying it, I know which I would have chosen. You were right, you won, spend all the monies on hookers and blow. Congrats. I was on too - obv spent some of the money on strippers.....no blow :) Also had Van Gerwen most !80s and a double MvG / Wade courtedy of Shallow - however his under 13.5 180s in first just went south My boys came good ;) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 30, 2012, 02:46:39 PM I don't think I have enjoyed a game of Darts as much as last nights match.
Hopefully more of the same tonight. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 30, 2012, 02:53:01 PM I don't think I have enjoyed a game of Darts as much as last nights match. Hopefully more of the same tonight. Me 2 mate. I've gone for under 7.5 180's for wade tonight at evens, can see mvg winning this in a cakewalk if wade doesn't improve his average-thus might not be enough sets for mr switcher to hit the spread. Am also thinking of backing the under 19.5 total 180's for the same reasoning. Obv mvg could prove a problem here as he'll hit them for fun when he gets going, but 20 will be a large number if it only goes 7/8 sets. Thoughts? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 30, 2012, 03:03:52 PM Would you not be better going under 36.5 legs?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 30, 2012, 03:13:56 PM Would you not be better going under 36.5 legs? Well i've had a tiny interest on under 9 sets at 11/10 and think skybet's 11/8 under 35.5 legs is ok too. Can't say the 5/6 under 36.5 legs excites me hugely though. I think the main edge on the market is that some of those making the spreads don't realise how much Wade moves away from the red bit. Even if the match goes 9/10 sets I think I prefer the under 180 market to the leg one. Yes MVG could hit 14-15, but Wade could easily be as low as 4-5. At an average of 4 legs per set if it goes 9/10 sets i'm probs just flipping-so would always want odds against. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on December 30, 2012, 05:18:40 PM excited yet?
on pretty big double MVG -2.5 and barney most 180's 8/11 and 4/9 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Horneris on December 30, 2012, 06:39:10 PM excited yet? on pretty big double MVG -2.5 and barney most 180's 8/11 and 4/9 Thats a nice looking bet. Some big hitters I know on MVG Most 180s @ 1/4. As someone in here posted last night, seems like absolutely buying money. Changed to 2/9 best now. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 30, 2012, 06:57:26 PM Buzzinggggggggggggggggg.
TeamMVG + TeamBarney lets goooooooooo Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 30, 2012, 07:00:13 PM I hope Barney stands up to the Power and does not show us the bottle he has in the fridge. He can not afford to have the old Trafford mentality, players going out thinking they are beat. All Dutch final please!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: kpnuts on December 30, 2012, 07:05:41 PM excited yet? on pretty big double MVG -2.5 and barney most 180's 8/11 and 4/9 Thats a nice looking bet. Some big hitters I know on MVG Most 180s @ 1/4. As someone in here posted last night, seems like absolutely buying money. Changed to 2/9 best now. That was me (a small hitter but hit this one fairly hard!). Also on action man's double. GL us! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 30, 2012, 07:06:06 PM Let's hope stumpy's new improved leg holds up for starters.
Gooooooo stumpy ;cheerleader; Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 30, 2012, 07:06:37 PM Barney Army checking in.
Barney and MvG most 180's for me tonight and under 35.5 legs in MvG V Wade. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 30, 2012, 07:12:09 PM mVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 07:28:35 PM lleeegggoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 08:20:17 PM This is such rubz!
I knew this was going to happen, so set up a postion where 6-0 paid me huge, and everything else broken even (except 6-5 which paid). Oh wait - I didnt cover 6-1! Burn wadey! (oh and get there please!) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2012, 08:24:20 PM OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was almost history books right there. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 30, 2012, 08:24:42 PM I had a little leakage there :)
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: sweet potata! on December 30, 2012, 08:25:09 PM Incredible!!!!!
17 perfect darts!!! OMFG Amazing!!!! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: donttiltboy on December 30, 2012, 08:25:23 PM Oh my
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 30, 2012, 08:26:10 PM Just WOW. Amazing arrows.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 08:26:18 PM out of this world
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Waz1892 on December 30, 2012, 08:26:48 PM Stunning! But fair play to wade for keeping focused
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: sweet potata! on December 30, 2012, 08:27:13 PM Wade so dull, couldn't even raise a smile.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 08:27:40 PM This is such rubz! I knew this was going to happen, so set up a postion where 6-0 paid me huge, and everything else broken even (except 6-5 which paid). Oh wait - I didnt cover 6-1! Burn wadey! (oh and get there please!) BINK! Phew - all is forgiven! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: booder on December 30, 2012, 08:28:46 PM Just incredible.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ACE2M on December 30, 2012, 08:29:28 PM Scared my baby daughter a bit when i jumped up for the 2nd double 12. mazin arras
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 08:35:00 PM Wade still has zero 180s and is only a set behind.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 08:36:31 PM wadey doesnt half get punished by 9 darters! wasnt it taylor put 2 on him>?
I guess he would argue they need them to beat him! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2012, 08:39:33 PM Wadey of old is making an appearance. This could be a right hum dinger. Losing the set after those darts has knocked MVG's confidence imo.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 30, 2012, 08:41:16 PM I think that was a very big leg.
Goooooooooooo stumpy ;cheerleader; Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 08:46:50 PM Dean Winstanley is first to congratulate Mighty Mike on his 9darter on Twitter
Very generous of him, given that he's just lost £7,500! He's probably grateful it wasn't chopped down to 5k... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 30, 2012, 08:48:56 PM Did anyone see if wade even congratulated mikey on the 9 darter?
I just saw him looking miserable as usual, can't stand the guy. Same at end of every match he plays, barely shakes his opponents hand win or lose. Crush him mvg, amazing darts! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 30, 2012, 08:52:40 PM Dean Winstanley is first to congratulate Mighty Mike on his 9darter on Twitter At this rate he will be happy with a grand.Very generous of him, given that he's just lost £7,500! He's probably grateful it wasn't chopped down to 5k... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 08:54:25 PM Ladbrokes tweet they would have offered 50,000-1 for consecutive 9darters.
Probably worth a quid Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 08:57:45 PM And we still have Taylor vs Barney to come
*giddy* Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 08:57:54 PM I'm not sure I can stand this much excitement
- Stephen Fry on Twitter Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2012, 09:15:02 PM Wade is insanely good at double 10.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2012, 09:15:59 PM Ladbrokes tweet they would have offered 50,000-1 for consecutive 9darters. Probably worth a quid Complete bollocks. They would never give that price. They are only 500/1 William and Kate call their sprog Elvis. Wonder which is more likely. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on December 30, 2012, 09:18:25 PM Ladbrokes tweet they would have offered 50,000-1 for consecutive 9darters. Probably worth a quid Complete bollocks. They would never give that price. They are only 500/1 William and Kate call their sprog Elvis. Wonder which is more likely. It takes a real bookie to offer odds on something that might have happened in the past. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2012, 09:18:50 PM aarrgghh
missed single 12 for two darts at tops aarrggh Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 09:19:06 PM Ladbrokes tweet they would have offered 50,000-1 for consecutive 9darters. Probably worth a quid Complete bollocks. They would never give that price. They are only 500/1 William and Kate call their sprog Elvis. Wonder which is more likely. ...which is exactly why I posted that here. Made me laugh out loud when I read it. Could just imagine walking up to the counter in the local shop and saying "how much for consecutive nine darters?" Lady rings up head office and comes back with "50,000-1 sir" Cos that would definitely happen..! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 09:20:16 PM Wade is the Neptune Collonges of darts
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Karabiner on December 30, 2012, 09:26:16 PM Stumptastic :)
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2012, 09:28:58 PM 180s and plenty of em please RVB.
Hope this is an absolute cracker of a game. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2012, 09:30:54 PM Ladbrokes tweet they would have offered 50,000-1 for consecutive 9darters. Probably worth a quid Complete bollocks. They would never give that price. They are only 500/1 William and Kate call their sprog Elvis. Wonder which is more likely. classic laddies utter pr bullshite Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 09:31:13 PM I'm funking for the big man with all my heart.
Come on, Mr T! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 30, 2012, 09:32:06 PM I don't think I have enjoyed a game of Darts as much as last nights match. Hopefully more of the same tonight. Me 2 mate. I've gone for under 7.5 180's for wade tonight at evens, can see mvg winning this in a cakewalk if wade doesn't improve his average-thus might not be enough sets for mr switcher to hit the spread. Am also thinking of backing the under 19.5 total 180's for the same reasoning. Obv mvg could prove a problem here as he'll hit them for fun when he gets going, but 20 will be a large number if it only goes 7/8 sets. Thoughts? Would you not be better going under 36.5 legs? Well i've had a tiny interest on under 9 sets at 11/10 and think skybet's 11/8 under 35.5 legs is ok too. Can't say the 5/6 under 36.5 legs excites me hugely though. I think the main edge on the market is that some of those making the spreads don't realise how much Wade moves away from the red bit. Even if the match goes 9/10 sets I think I prefer the under 180 market to the leg one. Yes MVG could hit 14-15, but Wade could easily be as low as 4-5. At an average of 4 legs per set if it goes 9/10 sets i'm probs just flipping-so would always want odds against. Think there were 39 legs and there were 15 (14-1) 180's. Phew that's won me back what I lost laying Liverpool earlier. Can't really find a bet I like on the Barney match so may just enjoy it. Wouldn't be adverse to punting on a decent tip tho if anyone has one? Was tempted by 10 sets or more at 6/5 but bad feeling Taylor may go beserk and send out a statement to mvg. So want barney to win! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Rod on December 30, 2012, 09:32:19 PM Come on Barney
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 30, 2012, 09:33:58 PM Come on Barney Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on December 30, 2012, 09:34:10 PM Sorry. Not impressed outside the two legs. Tilted he didnt cover handicap as big bet - however will wade into Barney / Power in final
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 09:35:39 PM Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 30, 2012, 09:35:50 PM Come on Barney Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 09:36:53 PM Not much difference for me as to Mikey's chances against Power or Barney.
If you want to be a true PDC World Champion, you have to beat Phil Taylor. Let's see if MvG has what it takes and get him up against the Power. One thing is for sure, sky won't under-hype it. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 30, 2012, 09:38:31 PM He deffo seemed to hit the wall there, hopefully it was just because he played in an incred game last night.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on December 30, 2012, 09:41:10 PM He was playing against a dull grinder and it just brought him down a bit.
He was never going to lose and will up his game in the final. Feeling tho that taylor would crucify mistakes on doubles tho. Will hedge on taylor if he gets thru. Go on barnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 09:42:06 PM Im not on the MVG coup, but if I was I would let it ride vs barney and take a chunk out if its vs taylor
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: kpnuts on December 30, 2012, 09:43:56 PM excited yet? on pretty big double MVG -2.5 and barney most 180's 8/11 and 4/9 OUTRAGEOUS misfortune there, MVG wouldn't have been flattered by 6-1. Obv smashed even more onto Barney 180s supremacy. KAMAAN, RvB! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2012, 09:45:48 PM Im not on the MVG coup, but if I was I would let it ride vs barney and take a chunk out if its vs taylor I'd prob go the other way Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Horneris on December 30, 2012, 09:46:08 PM cmon The Powah!!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2012, 09:46:22 PM Barney winning an epic and then we can look for the Barney Bounce in the final.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on December 30, 2012, 09:49:53 PM The atmosphere with that game did die a bit after the 17 perfect darts and MVG deflated with it.
Presumably the MVG v Barney/Taylor final would be mental throughout and so would keep MVG going. He does have to hit those doubles though. On another note, anyone else unimpressed with the walkon girls this year? They seem to be entirely made of plastic. There used to be a couple of gorgeous blonde ones. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 09:50:58 PM The atmosphere with that game did die a bit after the 17 perfect darts and MVG deflated with it. Presumably the MVG v Barney/Taylor final would be mental throughout and so would keep MVG going. He does have to hit those doubles though. On another note, anyone else unimpressed with the walkon girls this year? They seem to be entirely made of plastic. There used to be a couple of gorgeous blonde ones. I hope you are kidding Daniella Allfree is heaven sent Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Chompy on December 30, 2012, 09:51:38 PM Ladbrokes tweet they would have offered 50,000-1 for consecutive 9darters. Probably worth a quid Complete bollocks. They would never give that price. They are only 500/1 William and Kate call their sprog Elvis. Wonder which is more likely. Yuh, utter bollx from everyone's favourite non-bookmaker. Walk in your nearest shop tomorrow and ask for a tenner on Lithuania for next year's Eurovision and the staff would all explode. Do like the current ads though, pretty sure I've played poker with the Italian fella somewhere before. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 09:54:51 PM AndrewT I'm with you, sir. Straight outa TOWIE and can go back.
Or to outrageous's house :) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on December 30, 2012, 09:55:48 PM AndrewT I'm with you, sir. Straight outa TOWIE and can go back. Or to outrageous's house :) Sarah Tunnicliffe was the one. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 10:09:56 PM Just found this and died a little inside:
http://www.walkongirls.co.uk/ The whole walk on girl thing is a bit of a boorish cliché but actually setting up a website is embarrassing Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 30, 2012, 10:14:45 PM wtf Barney, looks a totally different man to the other night.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2012, 10:19:33 PM That was more like it
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2012, 10:27:42 PM Shortlived. Yet another player that has failed to turn up against Taylor.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Killerkilsby on December 30, 2012, 10:30:07 PM Just found this and died a little inside: http://www.walkongirls.co.uk/ The whole walk on girl thing is a bit of a boorish cliché but actually setting up a website is embarrassing Sigh..... How explicit :-) We can’t show you this content because your phone has ‘adult filtering’ turned on. To turn it off you’ll need to verify that you’re over 18. To find out how to do this and to get more information, please follow the link below: Accessing adult content on your phone. If you’ve already verified your age and you have a PIN you can log into the Planet 3 ‘Restricted’ area using the link below: Restricted Log-in Set-up a PIN Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 10:34:24 PM its a real shame that will all these potentially increible games, we have only had 1 worthy of its billing!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 10:35:11 PM Lol how the heck did that happen?
There's a picture on the homepage of a man gurning and another picture of what I assume to be a walk on girl wearing a long black T-shirt. And I've made it sound much more erotic than it is. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 10:37:33 PM I take it all back. There's more to the site!
You can also find out their glove size. Seriously how is this allowed on the internet? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 10:50:48 PM this is turning into a woeful game of darts! Crowd are asleep
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Skippy on December 30, 2012, 11:11:10 PM Skippy theory- Barney's had a Barney with his wife pre match. His prematch cuddle looked unconvincing, and he looks like he's been dumped ever since.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2012, 11:12:33 PM horseplayer theory
taylor bringing up the barney wants to die thing has messed his head again shaking his head after two legs just isnt good enough Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 11:16:17 PM Tal theory
It's none of our business. There's always a back story somewhere. Barney looks very tired and hasn't shaved. Taylor didn't look him in the eye at the handshake but mind games are standard Taylor. Bad form to speculate on personal lives IMO. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 11:17:51 PM Theroy
They both went and smashed 6-5 taylor in the break and agreed to spice up the game Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on December 30, 2012, 11:20:22 PM Probs more fot TFT thread but is there value for us in future sporting events in opposing players who don't shave in big finals?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on December 30, 2012, 11:21:36 PM lets go Barneyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2012, 11:23:28 PM lets go Barneyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ForthThistle on December 30, 2012, 11:25:02 PM 5-1 NOW 5-3.
Lets Feckin do it for Holland. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2012, 11:29:34 PM OMFG. what a checkout.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 11:29:58 PM No blinking way...
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 11:34:03 PM One more, Mr Taylor...
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on December 30, 2012, 11:37:23 PM That 5 Taylor hit when going for the 170 must be the worst dart I've seen him throw.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 11:37:34 PM 5-5 and im happy
come on barney - get there Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 11:40:50 PM I'm on 6-4 Taylor, outrageous, so we have a bit of fun :)
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on December 30, 2012, 11:41:33 PM ;gobsmacked;
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 11:43:11 PM Taylor retires if he loses this
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2012, 11:43:59 PM mad this
good for mvg fans taylor having a long game here (and barney) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on December 30, 2012, 11:44:20 PM where did that come from?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 30, 2012, 11:45:20 PM MvG backers would want Taylor after this showing
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 11:46:00 PM Er.....what???
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2012, 11:46:12 PM siiiighs. what's going on there? Taylor the nasty prick
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 30, 2012, 11:47:12 PM Taylor is a grade A prized prick.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on December 30, 2012, 11:47:18 PM Taylor always was a prick.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 11:48:09 PM Interview coming up
;popcorn; Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2012, 11:48:13 PM taylor what a vile man he is
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: sweet potata! on December 30, 2012, 11:48:31 PM Lamp him Barney!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2012, 11:52:16 PM crowd going to be right on mvgs side thats a given
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on December 30, 2012, 11:54:39 PM Shame really. Should be backing the Brit.
(Even if Fred isn't :) ) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 30, 2012, 11:59:40 PM MvG will beat him, his celebrating every Leg he wins will annoy that creep Taylor.
Looking like it will be evens the pair. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: craigbetts on December 31, 2012, 12:01:23 AM Harrington was so far up Phil's rear end it's not true. As for giving the trophy away, win it first before you make your grand gesture. mighty Mickey Van Gerwin, mighty Mickey Van gerwin!!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on December 31, 2012, 12:07:50 AM Harrington was so far up Phil's rear end it's not true. As for giving the trophy away, win it first before you make your grand gesture. mighty Mickey Van Gerwin, mighty Mickey Van gerwin!! Yeah Harrington appears to be scared of him for some reason. The comments about the trophy are standard Taylor, even if he wins (which I don't think he will) it's not his trophy to give away. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Chompy on December 31, 2012, 12:15:49 AM True colours there much Philip?
Interviewed him for a sports paper once and I've never been at all convinced by him tbh, much as it's impossible not to admire what he's done. Don't care about my MVG bet, just so want Taylor to get crushed by someone with more ability and infinitely more class. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2012, 12:17:26 AM MvG will beat him, his celebrating every Leg he wins will annoy that creep Taylor. Looking like it will be evens the pair. This. He really got under his skin at the GSOD. Only slight concern is MVG hasn't brought his best in his two previous finals. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on December 31, 2012, 12:24:39 AM Barney should have won tonight, giving Taylor 4 of a start cost him and if that match had went 5-5 Barney would have won.
That's the first time he has been pushed all Tournament and he looked a nervous wreck from 5-2 onwards. Taylor is evens commision free with Ladbrokes for anyone wanting to green up on their MvG bet. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: aaron1867 on December 31, 2012, 12:33:24 AM Youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGXWC5genPg Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: horseplayer on December 31, 2012, 12:37:51 AM So Rod Harrington is a director of the PDC and Phil Taylor (reportedly) holds shares; could Sky's coverage have much less integrity?
from twitter rod is pathetic tbh Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on December 31, 2012, 12:59:34 AM There's an English one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toX3EsrC3mQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toX3EsrC3mQ) Can't post it as a youtube video for some reason. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 01, 2013, 05:09:05 PM Anyone got the inside track on how Taylor is feeling?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 01, 2013, 06:01:30 PM MVG moves into clear favourite
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on January 01, 2013, 06:45:20 PM MVG moves into clear favourite mmmm 1.91 to 2.06 not sure we can call this clear!!! HOwever, I'm not laying it off, hedging is for gardeners amd so on, come onnn migghhhhty mike! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on January 01, 2013, 06:48:26 PM HOwever, I'm not laying it off, hedging is for gardeners amd so on, come onnn migghhhhty mike! :D Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on January 01, 2013, 07:53:39 PM Come on MVGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Graham C on January 01, 2013, 08:18:28 PM Small dabble for Taylor to get most 180's at 9/1.
Good luck MVG backers, especially those on at a massive price, hope he finishes the job for you. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: bobby1 on January 01, 2013, 08:20:58 PM good luck everyone.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 01, 2013, 08:26:51 PM good luck everyone. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 01, 2013, 08:43:48 PM Great start from MVG, no fear so far.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 01, 2013, 08:44:43 PM Understandably cagey in parts, but signs of magic to come there! The 350 in 6 darts was incred, as was that last checkout!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 01, 2013, 08:47:30 PM His scoring hasn't started yet and it seems to come 2 or 3 sets in, if he hits 40% or above doubles he wins.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on January 01, 2013, 08:47:43 PM Great start from MVG, no fear so far. Many of us have you to thank for nagging us to get on MVG after Bazza first stuck him up. Hope you get the lot. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on January 01, 2013, 08:56:34 PM MVG MVG.
Someones been practicing doubles :) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on January 01, 2013, 09:01:25 PM His scoring hasn't started yet and it seems to come 2 or 3 sets in, if he hits 40% or above doubles he wins. Let us hope so. Currently 67%. ;) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 01, 2013, 09:12:10 PM Taylor throwing his best Darts of the Tournament.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Graham C on January 01, 2013, 09:12:25 PM Amazing hat thy can concentate so well with that crowd behind them. Cracking final so far
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: pokerfan on January 01, 2013, 09:48:22 PM Can someone update the score pls.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Killerkilsby on January 01, 2013, 09:50:18 PM 3-2 MVG and 2-0 up in 6th.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on January 01, 2013, 09:53:29 PM Can someone update the score pls. Try this Mr Fan..... It is updated in real time after every visit to the board. http://live.dartsdata.com/MatchView.aspx?MatchId=36323 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 01, 2013, 09:56:54 PM Follow PDC on twitter and there are updates every leg with what's going on.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 01, 2013, 09:58:54 PM These 3 dart combos to finish are insane! I've never seen the like
It's is the only difference ATM Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 01, 2013, 09:59:16 PM I have to credit Taylor here. He's smiling full of recognition for his opponent taking these finishes out.
It's like Rory playing a matchplay game against Westwood on the one day a year Westwood has a functioning putter. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: pokerfan on January 01, 2013, 09:59:35 PM Cheers all.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: rfgqqabc on January 01, 2013, 10:01:54 PM I have to credit Taylor here. He's smiling full of recognition for his opponent taking these finishes out. It's like Rory playing a matchplay game against Westwood on the one day a year Westwood has a functioning putter. Hahahaha too good. Mum has some other crap on but I'm sweating flashscore.co.uk for the boys! No bet on myself (somehow) but calling it in! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Skgv on January 01, 2013, 10:03:36 PM This is going to be special
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 01, 2013, 10:04:59 PM Taylor just won't go away, I hope those 2 Darts for 5-2 ain't costly
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 01, 2013, 10:05:49 PM I have to credit Taylor here. He's smiling full of recognition for his opponent taking these finishes out. It's like Rory playing a matchplay game against Westwood on the one day a year Westwood has a functioning putter. Hahahaha too good. Mum has some other crap on but I'm sweating flashscore.co.uk for the boys! No bet on myself (somehow) but calling it in! Tell your mum you are missing sporting history and to pls let you watch! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: redarmi on January 01, 2013, 10:19:25 PM I have no bet on this but it is beyond tilting to see Taylor high fiving the ref during the game. The mans arrogance has no bounds.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on January 01, 2013, 10:21:26 PM I have no bet on this but it is beyond tilting to see Taylor high fiving the ref during the game. The mans arrogance has no bounds. This - he is a total cock Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 01, 2013, 10:21:31 PM I have no bet on this but it is beyond tilting to see Taylor high fiving the ref during the game. The mans arrogance has no bounds. He did also clap when MvG made a good finish, congratulated him at the end of a set and made time to acknowledge the crowd when they cheered for his friend Sid Waddell. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on January 01, 2013, 10:21:36 PM I have no bet on this but it is beyond tilting to see Taylor high fiving the ref during the game. The mans arrogance has no bounds. A shade inappropriate too, I would have thought. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: rfgqqabc on January 01, 2013, 10:35:20 PM I have no bet on this but it is beyond tilting to see Taylor high fiving the ref during the game. The mans arrogance has no bounds. A shade inappropriate too, I would have thought. Can't even imagine what would happen in other sports ^.^ A mammoth break coming up, come on MVG!!!! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on January 01, 2013, 10:39:20 PM Nobody tilts me as much as this clwon, the smirks, eyes, smiles - he is an utter tool (great player obv)
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 01, 2013, 10:43:02 PM Darting genius but a Bellend, that their is no doubt.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TightEnd on January 01, 2013, 10:43:59 PM went up several gears at 4-4, like putting his foot on MVG's throat
Amazing to watch (sadly) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 01, 2013, 10:45:07 PM TBH I don't see Taylor that way at all. Absolutely love him.
Nothing tilts me like that motherflipping Ladbrokes donut... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on January 01, 2013, 10:45:21 PM Just heard that Phil had his MBE retracted due to a sexual assault conviction. Unbelievable
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 01, 2013, 10:47:37 PM Just heard that Phil had his MBE retracted due to a sexual assault conviction. Unbelievable That was a very long time ago, Jase. Won't post details on here in case I remember it incorrectly but he's long off the register (if there even were a register then) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Waz1892 on January 01, 2013, 10:48:03 PM Sometimes he (or his actions; high five ref, cough sweets to the front row)comes across as the same if you're playing a home game with some people you don't know with an opened deck of cards.
Just feels a bit too homely. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 01, 2013, 10:48:24 PM Not sure there are many successful sportsmen in the ilk of Taylor who were loved during their sporting activities!
It's a moment of huge release and he sees a friendly face, sometimes you can't help it. He does nothing snide in the matches! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Waz1892 on January 01, 2013, 10:49:49 PM I'm sure it not on purpose or with purpose just his ways
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Skgv on January 01, 2013, 10:50:58 PM Unbelievable !
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 01, 2013, 10:53:44 PM That is greatness right there! No other player in the world could have taken the punishment MVG handed out!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Geo the Sarge on January 01, 2013, 10:53:57 PM Just heard that Phil had his MBE retracted due to a sexual assault conviction. Unbelievable That was a very long time ago, Jase. Won't post details on here in case I remember it incorrectly but he's long off the register (if there even were a register then) That makes it alright then I suppose?? Geo Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TL900 on January 01, 2013, 10:54:14 PM Jesus.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on January 01, 2013, 10:54:38 PM Can't take it away from the guy. Phil was awesome
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on January 01, 2013, 10:56:12 PM sighs. on that performance he deserved it. as soon as MVG went behind it was game over.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Skgv on January 01, 2013, 10:56:57 PM Wow when Did darts get so much prize money! £ 200 k 1st prize an £100 k for 2nd ! Sick money for darts.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on January 01, 2013, 10:57:05 PM Shame that MVG just seemed to switch off at the end - all that bull nonsense and covering at 19 and then 18 just seemed to be a sign that his head had gone.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 01, 2013, 11:01:00 PM Just heard that Phil had his MBE retracted due to a sexual assault conviction. Unbelievable That was a very long time ago, Jase. Won't post details on here in case I remember it incorrectly but he's long off the register (if there even were a register then) That makes it alright then I suppose?? Geo Behave! That's not what I said. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on January 01, 2013, 11:05:36 PM Well done power i guess.
Still can't stand the guy, no class at all. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on January 01, 2013, 11:19:40 PM wIHXE'mfue'gi'up,sfouiufshflukjhse9pwxpz8me9au,2z,qeywiumxrz'0ou,yxw8siryfnd;sxozup'eo;usfzxdnjz,'dxfuxz;cio,;xie
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on January 01, 2013, 11:19:57 PM Most bottle ive ever seen
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on January 01, 2013, 11:20:57 PM obviously world class Taylor. fucking wjkhjkehfklnxvckljdvlh
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: jakally on January 02, 2013, 12:01:14 AM Most bottle ive ever seen A pretty outstanding performance of it's type. Had money on MVG, but wanted Taylor to win during the last few sets. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2013, 01:12:59 AM if one more person tells me how much "bottle" PT had I think I might punch them.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: George2Loose on January 02, 2013, 01:21:26 AM With which hand?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: rfgqqabc on January 02, 2013, 01:44:51 AM if one more person tells me how much "bottle" PT had I think I might punch them. PT has cojones! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: sweet potata! on January 02, 2013, 02:11:31 PM The way Taylor was bouncing round the stage in between sets and shadow boxing and generally annoying the scorers was extremely cringe worthy, the man seems so so slimy.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: kinboshi on January 02, 2013, 04:10:10 PM The way Taylor was bouncing round the stage in between sets and shadow boxing and generally annoying the scorers was extremely cringe worthy, the man seems so so slimy. Yeah, but he's got bottle... ;hide; Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ACE2M on January 02, 2013, 06:48:59 PM He's a tit in real life to, no malice in him, he's just that boring over opinionated prick in the pub you avoid. You have to admire his bottle if nothing else.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 02, 2013, 08:03:45 PM New PL Format
The ten players will face each other once over the opening nine weeks of the tournament, over the best of 12 legs, before the bottom two players in the league table are relegated following the ninth league night in Brighton. The remaining eight players will then face each other again over the remaining five league nights before the top four progress to the Play-Offs at The O2 in London on May 16. The McCoy’s Premier League Darts competitors are: Phil Taylor – reigning and six-time Premier League Darts champion Adrian Lewis – two-time World Champion James Wade – 2009 Premier League Darts champion Michael van Gerwen – 2012 World Grand Prix champion Simon Whitlock – 2012 European Champion Andy Hamilton – 2012 Premier League Darts semi-finalist Wes Newton – 2012 European Championship finalist Raymond van Barneveld – five-time World Champion Gary Anderson – 2011 Premier League Darts champion Robert Thornton – 2012 UK Open champion The McCoy’s Premier League Darts, screened live on Sky Sports HD, will begin on Thursday February 7 at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast before travelling to Aberdeen, Bournemouth, Exeter, Nottingham, Manchester, Cardiff, Glasgow and Brighton for the first phase of the event. The final five league nights will be held in Sheffield Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 02, 2013, 08:05:56 PM Something definetly need changed as it was getting a bit stale, whether this is the best way forward then who knows.
I can't really grumble about the line up other than I would rather have seen Chisnall/Winstanley in ahead of Thornton and maybe even Newton. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 02, 2013, 08:31:41 PM Thornton. Sigh...
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 02, 2013, 11:38:23 PM New PL Format The ten players will face each other once over the opening nine weeks of the tournament, over the best of 12 legs, before the bottom two players in the league table are relegated following the ninth league night in Brighton. The remaining eight players will then face each other again over the remaining five league nights before the top four progress to the Play-Offs at The O2 in London on May 16. The McCoy’s Premier League Darts competitors are: Phil Taylor – reigning and six-time Premier League Darts champion Adrian Lewis – two-time World Champion James Wade – 2009 Premier League Darts champion Michael van Gerwen – 2012 World Grand Prix champion Simon Whitlock – 2012 European Champion Andy Hamilton – 2012 Premier League Darts semi-finalist Wes Newton – 2012 European Championship finalist Raymond van Barneveld – five-time World Champion Gary Anderson – 2011 Premier League Darts champion Robert Thornton – 2012 UK Open champion The McCoy’s Premier League Darts, screened live on Sky Sports HD, will begin on Thursday February 7 at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast before travelling to Aberdeen, Bournemouth, Exeter, Nottingham, Manchester, Cardiff, Glasgow and Brighton for the first phase of the event. The final five league nights will be held in Sheffield I was wondering earlier who would make the PL lineup in its previous format. Would have been some big decisions to be made, they have avoided that by increasing the numbers. Top 8 plus Thornton and Anderson. Not sure anyone can feel aggrieved at being overlooked. Thornton least deserving but has won a TV tournament and that was good enough for Painter last year. I'm not a fan of the PL and not sure this format will change much but worth a try I guess. In fairness my opinion of the PL is probably clouded by the fact for the last 4 years it has either been my worst or 2nd worst tournament of the year punting wise. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 03, 2013, 12:08:55 AM sigh at no chizzy :(
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Horneris on January 03, 2013, 01:47:02 AM Something definetly need changed as it was getting a bit stale, whether this is the best way forward then who knows. I can't really grumble about the line up other than I would rather have seen Chisnall/Winstanley in ahead of Thornton and maybe even Newton. This This This zzzzz @ The Thorn Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 05, 2013, 11:37:18 AM Let's Play Darts.
For the second year in a row the very first match will be the only one which won't be Televised live over the whole Tournament. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on January 05, 2013, 11:49:42 AM To get ESPN back or to not get ESPN back. That is the question!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 05, 2013, 12:32:10 PM Dave Prins has played at the Lakeside 3 times (twice seeded) and averaged
80.22 76.86 78.24 Richie George has never played here before but given he is the son of Bobby I'm guessing he will be familiar with the venue and has played well enough this year to get himself a seeding. Low 80s average will probably be enough to win this so I'm on. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on January 05, 2013, 04:20:47 PM Looked like Thompson did a nazi salute at the end of that! Sick how much he looks like Del Boy.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on January 05, 2013, 05:55:58 PM lol at all the mis-scoring but really enjoyed that match. Go on Ritchie Rich
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 05, 2013, 05:56:07 PM Bit of run good there. Was painful viewing mind you.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 06, 2013, 09:59:02 AM 14 players in action yesterday including some fancied runners and only one averaged over 90 (Green 91.11). This isn't going to take a lot of winning.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on January 06, 2013, 10:40:39 AM 14 players in action yesterday including some fancied runners and only one averaged over 90 (Green 91.11). This isn't going to take a lot of winning. what were the stats on finishing like compared to the pdc. Tried watching it a few times but then kept switching back to th ping pongTitle: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on January 06, 2013, 10:46:24 AM on waites in a pretty big fashion here. He's a class above these guys, just need him to perform and no one will get close
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 06, 2013, 11:06:35 AM on waites in a pretty big fashion here. He's a class above these guys, just need him to perform and no one will get close It does look like a bit of a match bet between Waites and Bunting. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 06, 2013, 01:21:39 PM "twenty six"
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 06, 2013, 01:26:06 PM Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Chompy on January 06, 2013, 01:28:30 PM It is just comedy
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on January 06, 2013, 01:32:51 PM Jake came into the office yesterday and watched about 5 minutes of BDO darts after being glued to alot of the Ally Pally tournament.
"These men aren't very good. Do thy play for a living or just for fun?" Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: seven2unsuited on January 06, 2013, 02:37:12 PM Douglas seeded 13, he can't even throw a dart properly, reminds me of me when I started to play darts as a kid struggling to reach the board.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 06, 2013, 03:44:59 PM Douglas seeded 13, he can't even throw a dart properly, reminds me of me when I started to play darts as a kid struggling to reach the board. He has a Heart Attack last month and has had little practice, still won which says a lot for some of these Players.Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 06, 2013, 04:15:57 PM Adams beaten by a kid averaging 80. It goes from bad to worse. Can't bring myself to watch the next match as Barilli and Mitchell are both pony.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on January 06, 2013, 04:21:50 PM its good viewing for me
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Chompy on January 06, 2013, 04:35:46 PM Martin Adams once came on to the pitch at Peterborough after winning the BDO and got the predictable chants from the London Road end.
Everything about this comp feels wrong, esp the commentary. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on January 06, 2013, 05:30:16 PM Sigh, I was slagging off BDO and just got pwned. Someone was telling me the reason BDO is worse is that the doubles and trebles are smaller thus harder to hit. I said gtfo..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_pdc_dart_boards_and_bdo_dart_boards_different (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_pdc_dart_boards_and_bdo_dart_boards_different) http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A69780180 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A69780180) Now I read about it I kind of remember this being discussed on tele. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on January 06, 2013, 05:33:28 PM Still doesn't explain why I saw "9" yesterday. 3 treble ones you ask? no. Big 1, Big 1, Big 7..
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Leatherman on January 06, 2013, 08:45:22 PM Still doesn't explain why I saw "9" yesterday. 3 treble ones you ask? no. Big 1, Big 1, Big 7.. We're they your 3 arrows :D Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on January 06, 2013, 10:36:01 PM Still doesn't explain why I saw "9" yesterday. 3 treble ones you ask? no. Big 1, Big 1, Big 7.. We're they your 3 arrows :D Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on January 07, 2013, 09:52:15 AM backed Norris 25/1, Dekker 50/1, and Mitchell quarter winner 25/1 but havent watched any of it, it really is zzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 07, 2013, 10:15:02 AM It really is painful viewing made worse by the fact I somehow managed to do my conkers on it as well.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on January 07, 2013, 10:34:54 AM bazza, prem league darts.
Wade is 10/3 to be relegated, but 3/1 to finish bottom, what am I missing? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on January 07, 2013, 10:55:12 AM bazza, prem league darts. Wade is 10/3 to be relegated, but 3/1 to finish bottom, what am I missing? Looks like a rick - Betvictor have taken the Relegation market off the Darts page (but you can still get to it directly through the Oddschecker link) Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on January 07, 2013, 09:18:36 PM Tuned into watch on ESPN as my boy waites is playing....fmel - so budget, used to love it. On a side note, I really like Vasos Alexnader on the Chris Evans show but he is dreadful
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: action man on January 08, 2013, 01:18:15 AM ive bet waites at 7/2 but he's gotta be a 5 star lay at 13/8 now
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 08, 2013, 10:28:08 AM Prices in the women's tournament seem wrong. In the first round the averages were as follows
Ashton 79.41 Gulliver 73.47 Anastasia 71.01 Prins 66.42 Semi final draw sees Ashton v Prins Gulliver v Anastasia We can back Ashton at 5/1. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 08, 2013, 10:45:54 AM Prices in the women's tournament seem wrong. In the first round the averages were as follows Ashton 79.41 Gulliver 73.47 Anastasia 71.01 Prins 66.42 Semi final draw sees Ashton v Prins Gulliver v Anastasia We can back Ashton at 5/1. She should be in the main draw with that kind of average. Could have beaten Wolfie... Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Doobs on January 08, 2013, 10:46:23 AM Prices in the women's tournament seem wrong. In the first round the averages were as follows Ashton 79.41 Gulliver 73.47 Anastasia 71.01 Prins 66.42 Semi final draw sees Ashton v Prins Gulliver v Anastasia We can back Ashton at 5/1. Price looks very big with that semi final draw. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on January 08, 2013, 10:59:22 AM They're essentially offering 2/9 on winner of Gulliver/Anastasia in the final.
Does anyone au fait with the women's game think that will be the case? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on January 08, 2013, 11:32:20 AM SportingBet have Fitton to hit more 180's than Bunting @ 6/4.
But then have Fitton 4/6 to hit over 5.5, Bunting 10/11 over 5.5 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: edgascoigne on January 08, 2013, 11:35:01 AM SportingBet have Fitton to hit more 180's than Bunting @ 6/4. But then have Fitton 4/6 to hit over 5.5, Bunting 10/11 over 5.5 Palpable? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on January 08, 2013, 11:42:36 AM SportingBet have Fitton to hit more 180's than Bunting @ 6/4. But then have Fitton 4/6 to hit over 5.5, Bunting 10/11 over 5.5 Good spot. Have played Under 5.5 180's for Fitton@11/10 which seems wrong. 8/11 with the other guys covering the market. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on January 08, 2013, 12:02:17 PM SportingBet have Fitton to hit more 180's than Bunting @ 6/4. But then have Fitton 4/6 to hit over 5.5, Bunting 10/11 over 5.5 Palpable? Not that wrong to be palpable? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: edgascoigne on January 08, 2013, 12:04:26 PM SportingBet have Fitton to hit more 180's than Bunting @ 6/4. But then have Fitton 4/6 to hit over 5.5, Bunting 10/11 over 5.5 Palpable? Not that wrong to be palpable? I would agree...but I've seen some fairly ridiculous ones called in my time. Certainly looks a great spot, good luck. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 08, 2013, 12:04:53 PM They're essentially offering 2/9 on winner of Gulliver/Anastasia in the final. Does anyone au fait with the women's game think that will be the case? I'm far from au fait but I can't see how they would ever be that short in a best of 3 sets match. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Ant040689 on January 08, 2013, 12:06:27 PM Met Van Gerwen at the poker table last night, altogether nice chap, not a bad poker player either.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Nico29 on January 08, 2013, 12:08:49 PM I doubt they'd palp this, esp if u rnt going 2 crazy with stakes, silly mistake for sure, nothing huge tho.
Obv the rick was on the under/over market which has been changed. The 6/4 most fitton 180's is still available and imo is just an ok price. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on January 08, 2013, 12:21:53 PM Douglas hit 5 180's in 17 legs 1st round, O'Shea hit 5 in 14 legs.
Tonights games are 1st to 4 sets, unless O'Shea blitzes this 4-0 gotta like: Over 8.5 180's 11/10 Douglas 180's over 3.5 11/10 Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Chompy on January 08, 2013, 01:16:03 PM Met Van Gerwen at the poker table last night, altogether nice chap, not a bad poker player either. Did he fist pump/wobbly face it when he scooped? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 08, 2013, 08:05:25 PM The Dazzler (who I remember being a lot smaller and doing a Madness impression...) Daryl Fitton beats the top seed I've never heard of.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on January 08, 2013, 10:11:59 PM The Dazzler (who I remember being a lot smaller and doing a Madness impression...) Daryl Fitton beats the top seed I've never heard of. That was actually a cracking game, Bunting is a good player, heavy scorer but Fitton kept at it. Good result for Waites backers. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 08, 2013, 11:03:27 PM Only a couple of books still go 5/1 Ashton. I've topped up as the price can't be right. Obv she loses to Prins now.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Ant040689 on January 09, 2013, 05:42:06 AM Met Van Gerwen at the poker table last night, altogether nice chap, not a bad poker player either. Did he fist pump/wobbly face it when he scooped? He did his trademark "ooooooooooo" face with his lips pouted when his 11 bbs dealer button shove with 95 got snapped off by the BB and i secretly found that hilarious. Clearly thought he was still on tv. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 09, 2013, 08:31:14 AM Did he say "treble 15, ten, double top" like some Rain Man of Darts?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Ant040689 on January 09, 2013, 11:18:06 AM Did he say "treble 15, ten, double top" like some Rain Man of Darts? No but anything he said was interesting in his deep accent, I was thinking the baddie out of Goldmember Austin Powers the whole time. He spoke to anyone who said hello and was happy to keep up a convo on anything, just seems a genuine nice bloke. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TightEnd on January 09, 2013, 11:24:12 AM Is the usual ref Dutch?
Why does he say "one unwad" for "one hundred"? It fries my brain! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on January 09, 2013, 11:54:00 AM Is the usual ref Dutch? he is partially deafWhy does he say "one unwad" for "one hundred"? It fries my brain! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TightEnd on January 09, 2013, 11:56:04 AM Oh!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 09, 2013, 01:34:48 PM (http://triplefacepalm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/nba-triple-facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 09, 2013, 11:04:53 PM As many sub 80 averages as 90+ in the tournament so far. Only two of the remaining players have hit a 90+ ave. pretty dire stuff.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on January 09, 2013, 11:12:45 PM (http://triplefacepalm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/nba-triple-facepalm.jpg) i've been taking a bit of stick from tighty of late but really do love him to bits. I saw you triple face palm gif when I told him that the darts scorer is partially deaf. I know tighty being the guy he is, that he will be pretty upset that he said that, but in all honesty I don't know if the scorer is deaf or not and I just ain't got the heart to tell tighty it was a joke :)Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 09, 2013, 11:14:24 PM You are one of a kind, sir.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: smashedagain on January 09, 2013, 11:15:56 PM You are one of a kind, sir. pmsl. That's the last time I confide in youTitle: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on January 09, 2013, 11:36:54 PM As many sub 80 averages as 90+ in the tournament so far. Only two of the remaining players have hit a 90+ ave. pretty dire stuff. Saw a comment elsewhere earlier that the BDO is the Paralympics of darts. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: George2Loose on January 09, 2013, 11:38:19 PM Winner wins 100k. Worth putting in the hours for a year?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 10, 2013, 12:11:21 AM Winner wins 100k. Worth putting in the hours for a year? Nope, you would be 1000/1 to qualifyTitle: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: ruud on January 10, 2013, 03:58:43 PM It's the distances they miss the doubles by that exemplifies the difference.
Absolutely staggering at times. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Teacake on January 10, 2013, 05:07:02 PM It's the distances they miss the doubles by that exemplifies the difference. Absolutely staggering at times. Which makes the argument about smaller doubles and trebles redundant for all bar about 4 players. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 10, 2013, 05:43:10 PM Ashton wins 2-0 and 6-0 in Legs
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 10, 2013, 05:43:26 PM Ashton averages 77 and wins her semi 2-0 without dropping a leg.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Doobs on January 10, 2013, 07:05:03 PM Ashton averages 77 and wins her semi 2-0 without dropping a leg. Nice one. Got the big sweat on. Cheers. Bazzaboy from the old Betfair MTTs? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on January 10, 2013, 07:06:14 PM Ashton averages 77 and wins her semi 2-0 without dropping a leg. :) youre a legend bazza - on at 5s Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: sweet potata! on January 10, 2013, 07:34:56 PM Apologies if this has already been posted...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nu1EsN6j1IE Edit ; It won't let me post it in the normal fashion to show what the link is, for the record it's Joe Cullen impersonating a few fellow dartists. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: claypole on January 10, 2013, 07:56:56 PM Didnt think id say it....but a dcent game in progress here
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on January 10, 2013, 08:19:20 PM Apologies if this has already been posted... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nu1EsN6j1IE Edit ; It won't let me post it in the normal fashion to show what the link is, for the record it's Joe Cullen impersonating a few fellow dartists. whitlock, newton and taylor are brilliant Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: sweet potata! on January 10, 2013, 08:29:35 PM Apologies if this has already been posted... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nu1EsN6j1IE Edit ; It won't let me post it in the normal fashion to show what the link is, for the record it's Joe Cullen impersonating a few fellow dartists. whitlock, newton and taylor are brilliant I agree but then again I thought the Osborne one was very good aswell! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 10, 2013, 08:30:47 PM Ashton averages 77 and wins her semi 2-0 without dropping a leg. Nice one. Got the big sweat on. Cheers. Bazzaboy from the old Betfair MTTs? Yeah one and the same Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: edgascoigne on January 10, 2013, 09:30:51 PM Ashton averages 77 and wins her semi 2-0 without dropping a leg. :) youre a legend bazza - on at 5s +1 Punters ahoy! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 10, 2013, 09:34:30 PM Yep loving life with that Ashton bet.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Doobs on January 10, 2013, 09:59:47 PM Ashton averages 77 and wins her semi 2-0 without dropping a leg. Nice one. Got the big sweat on. Cheers. Bazzaboy from the old Betfair MTTs? Yeah one and the same Used to crush those MTTs, was so easy back in the day. Looking at the betfair price, looks like she will be about 2/1 vs Anastasia and close to evens vs Trina Gulliver. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 10, 2013, 10:14:07 PM Ashton averages 77 and wins her semi 2-0 without dropping a leg. Nice one. Got the big sweat on. Cheers. Bazzaboy from the old Betfair MTTs? Yeah one and the same Used to crush those MTTs, was so easy back in the day. Looking at the betfair price, looks like she will be about 2/1 vs Anastasia and close to evens vs Trina Gulliver. Yeah those were the days. Market massively overrating Anastasia imo. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 11, 2013, 01:35:27 PM Harms 13/10 looks pretty juicy. I have this one a fair bit closer.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 11, 2013, 01:47:34 PM I'd have him fav.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 11, 2013, 05:27:09 PM I'd have him fav. Yeah I really like Harms. Think he is a potential PDC star. Any view on George v Dekker? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 11, 2013, 06:06:34 PM Anastasia averages 83.11 in beating Gulliver 2-1. Not good.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 11, 2013, 06:24:04 PM What's she doing out of the main draw with an average like that?
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2013, 08:07:26 PM How biased is the commentary for George v Dekker?
George is unbelievably cocky for such a crap player. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 11, 2013, 08:31:13 PM How biased is the commentary for George v Dekker? George is unbelievably cocky for such a crap player. Commentator shouts "Yeeeeeeeeessss!" as the double 8 goes in. Only one Sid Waddell Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on January 11, 2013, 08:38:34 PM Incredible how he talks with the same pace and mannerisms as his dad.
Shoulder shrugs. The works Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Marky147 on January 11, 2013, 08:40:15 PM Reckon he's been on the billy!
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: AndrewT on January 12, 2013, 03:20:14 PM Waites absolutely tearing George a new arsehole here - won first 11 legs.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 12, 2013, 03:27:22 PM BBC had their choice of matches and chose this one.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on January 12, 2013, 04:47:27 PM 9/2 Harms outright also looks good. Waites hasn't been put under any pressure yet but has still looked pretty nervous at times.
Can't see him being bigger than 2/1 if he wins tonight. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on January 12, 2013, 05:56:54 PM Sigh Ashton. First to double in each of the first 3 legs in the final set but couldn't finish.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on January 23, 2013, 08:10:44 PM Any Prem League thoughts?
Starts 7th Feb. Had a nibble at Barney to be relegated @ 12's & Anderson most 180's @ 11/2 so far Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Christo! on February 05, 2013, 05:32:08 PM Premier League starts this Thursday
Andy Hamilton v Robert Thornton James Wade v Wes Newton Raymond van Barneveld v Gary Anderson Simon Whitlock v Adrian Lewis Phil Taylor v Michael van Gerwen Anyone any opinions? I am going to this so will be doing a few bets. Only bet I have had so far is wade to be relegated. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2013, 05:37:52 PM Any Prem League thoughts? Starts 7th Feb. Had a nibble at Barney to be relegated @ 12's & Anderson most 180's @ 11/2 so far 1 or 2 get relegated? Who is betting on this? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Christo! on February 05, 2013, 05:42:19 PM 2 get relegated
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2013, 05:50:32 PM 2 get relegated 12/1 Barney huge then. Would say that double figure odds about anyone bar MVG, Taylor and possibly Lewis would be value. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Christo! on February 05, 2013, 05:56:52 PM 2 get relegated 12/1 Barney huge then. Would say that double figure odds about anyone bar MVG, Taylor and possibly Lewis would be value. here's the best odds at the minute on relegation Thornton 6/4 Newton and Hamilton 7/4 Wade 3/1 Anderson 5/1 Lewis and Whitlock 7/1 Barney 12/1 MVG 28/1 Taylor 100/1 I can't see Barney getting relegated, I think it will be Newton and Wade Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: outragous76 on February 05, 2013, 05:59:25 PM Something wrong with those odds!
No way wadey gets relegated in this format Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on February 05, 2013, 06:46:10 PM 2 get relegated 12/1 Barney huge then. Would say that double figure odds about anyone bar MVG, Taylor and possibly Lewis would be value. here's the best odds at the minute on relegation Thornton 6/4 Newton and Hamilton 7/4 Wade 3/1 Anderson 5/1 Lewis and Whitlock 7/1 Barney 12/1 MVG 28/1 Taylor 100/1 I can't see Barney getting relegated, I think it will be Newton and Wade Thornton way out of form atm. Solid jolly, but 6/4 is too short surely. Would lay Newton at 7/4 til the cows come home. Terrible price. 5/1 Anderson looks fair. It looked like a temporary dip in form, but has been going on a long time now. 12/1 Barney too big. I'd mix and match Wade, Anderson and Barney at those prices. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 07, 2013, 10:56:10 AM I've done some research on 180's from last years Prem League and the Worlds just gone.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 07, 2013, 11:05:01 AM So,
In last years Prem League, with the 7 players who are in this years (Not inc VG, Newton & Thornton) there was: Legs: 1210 180's: 321 So the average was a 1 player hitting a 180 every 3.77 legs he played With 2 players in each leg there was a 180 every 1.89 legs. In this years World Champs the 10 players played: Legs: 1051 180's: 264 So the average was a 1 player hitting a 180 every 3.98 legs he played With 2 players in each leg there was a 180 every 1.99 legs. So basically a 180 every other leg. In the Prem League tonight there are 5 fixtures, each can have a maximum of 12 legs, or the min would be 5x 7-0. So: MAX LEGS POSSIBLE: 60 MIN LEGS POSSIBLE: 35 Basing the World aves on the max number of legs possible we would see 30 180's, but realistically we will see around 52-54 legs, assuming each game is likely to be 7-4, 7-5, 6-6 etc. 50 LEGS EXPECTS 25 180's 52 LEGS EXPECTS 26 180'S etc etc Based on this I've had a pretty chunky week 1 bet on: Under 30.5 180's @ 10/11 GL all. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 07, 2013, 11:08:16 AM And outright most 180 bets on:
Lewis 13/2 - Consistant in both the above tables, if he qualifies for the finals night (he's about a 45% chance to do so) then he should be right up there. Anderson 11/2 - Erractic as we know, very strange he had the worst 180's per leg average last year, but then had the best ave in the worlds just gone, cant turn down 11/2. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 07, 2013, 11:09:53 AM Also like Thornton but he's only about a 22% chance to qualify for finals night so just looking through the handicap market laddies have now.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TightEnd on February 07, 2013, 11:15:30 AM So, In last years Prem League, with the 7 players who are in this years (Not inc VG, Newton & Thornton) there was: Legs: 1210 180's: 321 So the average was a 1 player hitting a 180 every 3.77 legs he played With 2 players in each leg there was a 180 every 1.89 legs. In this years World Champs the 10 players played: Legs: 1051 180's: 264 So the average was a 1 player hitting a 180 every 3.98 legs he played With 2 players in each leg there was a 180 every 1.99 legs. So basically a 180 every other leg. In the Prem League tonight there are 5 fixtures, each can have a maximum of 12 legs, or the min would be 5x 7-0. So: MAX LEGS POSSIBLE: 60 MIN LEGS POSSIBLE: 35 Basing the World aves on the max number of legs possible we would see 30 180's, but realistically we will see around 52-54 legs, assuming each game is likely to be 7-4, 7-5, 6-6 etc. 50 LEGS EXPECTS 25 180's 52 LEGS EXPECTS 26 180'S etc etc Based on this I've had a pretty chunky week 1 bet on: Under 30.5 180's @ 10/11 GL all. can this go on Tips4tikay please? I'll put it on there for you, just say yeah or no Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 07, 2013, 11:16:27 AM No problem
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on February 07, 2013, 11:17:59 AM So, In last years Prem League, with the 7 players who are in this years (Not inc VG, Newton & Thornton) there was: Legs: 1210 180's: 321 So the average was a 1 player hitting a 180 every 3.77 legs he played With 2 players in each leg there was a 180 every 1.89 legs. In this years World Champs the 10 players played: Legs: 1051 180's: 264 So the average was a 1 player hitting a 180 every 3.98 legs he played With 2 players in each leg there was a 180 every 1.99 legs. So basically a 180 every other leg. In the Prem League tonight there are 5 fixtures, each can have a maximum of 12 legs, or the min would be 5x 7-0. So: MAX LEGS POSSIBLE: 60 MIN LEGS POSSIBLE: 35 Basing the World aves on the max number of legs possible we would see 30 180's, but realistically we will see around 52-54 legs, assuming each game is likely to be 7-4, 7-5, 6-6 etc. 50 LEGS EXPECTS 25 180's 52 LEGS EXPECTS 26 180'S etc etc Based on this I've had a pretty chunky week 1 bet on: Under 30.5 180's @ 10/11 GL all. Just one question Dwayne - where did you get that price, please? I can't see it. http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/premier-league/premier-league-weekly-specials/total-180s Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on February 07, 2013, 11:34:03 AM Think last of the price might have been on betfred when i checked earlier.
I'm on unders every match apart from barney v anderson and have a lolz canadian on the draws. 1 time.. Waiting for my darts correspondant to txt through my main bets.. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on February 07, 2013, 11:37:44 AM Think last of the price might have been on betfred when i checked earlier. I'm on unders every match apart from barney v anderson and have a lolz canadian on the draws. 1 time.. Waiting for my darts correspondant to txt through my main bets.. Thanks Milli. Oddschecker are not showing any BetFred prices on that, but I went to BetFred & they still have it, Under 30.5 x 180 @ 10/11. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 07, 2013, 11:42:35 AM Yeah, most others u/o 28.5, so some value for sure
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: millidonk on February 07, 2013, 11:44:11 AM Think last of the price might have been on betfred when i checked earlier. I'm on unders every match apart from barney v anderson and have a lolz canadian on the draws. 1 time.. Waiting for my darts correspondant to txt through my main bets.. Thanks Milli. Oddschecker are not showing any BetFred prices on that, but I went to BetFred & they still have it, Under 30.5 x 180 @ 10/11. Nps, now its time to jump on sir. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: tikay on February 07, 2013, 11:48:09 AM Think last of the price might have been on betfred when i checked earlier. I'm on unders every match apart from barney v anderson and have a lolz canadian on the draws. 1 time.. Waiting for my darts correspondant to txt through my main bets.. Thanks Milli. Oddschecker are not showing any BetFred prices on that, but I went to BetFred & they still have it, Under 30.5 x 180 @ 10/11. Nps, now its time to jump on sir. I am on! If it appears on TfT, as I hope it will, I'll Post the bet immediately. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: edgascoigne on February 07, 2013, 12:05:43 PM Great analysis, I'm on.
Good luck us. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on February 07, 2013, 05:23:26 PM I like the look of Wade tonight against Newton.
Wades bird is on.twitter saying he's been practising more tgan ever and will this being Newtons pld debut he's bound to be nervous. 13/10 to win or 5/6 dnb, might side with dnb because of the shortened format. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on February 07, 2013, 09:25:32 PM Anderson is a shadow of the player he was when he made the world final.
Could easily be in the bottom 2. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Tal on February 07, 2013, 09:43:58 PM Anderson is a shadow of the player he was when he made the world final. Could easily be in the bottom 2. He's one of those players/sportsmen who relies on a good mental state and, when it's not going well, he can be awfully fragile. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on February 10, 2013, 06:28:06 PM Will there be a nine dart finish in the Premier League?
I was pretty surprised at the prices. 10/11 yes, Evens No Anyone got any thoughts on this? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: rfgqqabc on February 10, 2013, 07:14:42 PM Under 30.5 180's @ 10/11 GL all. Just one question Dwayne - where did you get that price, please? I can't see it. http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/premier-league/premier-league-weekly-specials/total-180s Under 31.5 with Bwin about now @ 11/13. Green light anyone? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 11, 2013, 01:19:17 PM Its not a green light all-in job, but I stick by those stats over a decent 2000+ leg sample size.
I think I will play again yes. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 11, 2013, 01:20:59 PM Hamilton in those 180 stats is a steady 1 every 4 legs man.
Hamilton hit 4 in losing to Thornton. Wade, 0 in beating Newton. Hamilton must be a bet 10/11 most 180's. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on February 11, 2013, 01:23:17 PM Will there be a nine dart finish in the Premier League? I was pretty surprised at the prices. 10/11 yes, Evens No Anyone got any thoughts on this? Bump! Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: rfgqqabc on February 11, 2013, 01:43:53 PM Its not a green light all-in job, but I stick by those stats over a decent 2000+ leg sample size. I think I will play again yes. Its with bwin so no need to be worried about someone going all-in. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: TheChipPrince on February 11, 2013, 02:00:23 PM Will there be a nine dart finish in the Premier League? I was pretty surprised at the prices. 10/11 yes, Evens No Anyone got any thoughts on this? Bump! Didn't answer cos not sure! More likely to be one than not tho? Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Snowball on February 11, 2013, 06:23:50 PM Their's been 5 in tge last 3 years and twice last week were Players 2/3 of the way there.
I'd be on yes at the prices. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on February 11, 2013, 07:02:28 PM Wade under 95.5 average. Averaged 87.32 last week and hasn't averaged above 95.5 in his last 10 matches on TV.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: The Camel on February 11, 2013, 07:05:37 PM I agree.
I think Yes should be a lot shorter. If I'd been asked to price it up blind, I'd have been 1/2 Yes I think. Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: Bazzaboy on February 11, 2013, 07:24:58 PM Lewis tends to turn up when he is playing Taylor regardless of what sort of form he is generally in (Players Championship the latest example), I guess it's a motivation issue. He is evens over 96.5 average. He hasn't failed to cover that in the last 10 times they have played.
Title: Re: A winter of Darts Post by: peejaytwo on February 13, 2013, 08:28:54 PM Quote Hamilton in those 180 stats is a steady 1 every 4 legs man. Hamilton hit 4 in losing to Thornton. Wade, 0 in beating Newton. Hamilton must be a bet 10/11 most 180's. spread firms make Hamilton fav (0.55 at midpoint) £700+ matched at 1.7 on betfair out of only £848 matched up to press 10/11 looks a bet for anyone who can get on at spoilsports, and 5/6 probs still ok Title: Re: Dars Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on June 06, 2013, 11:06:02 AM AspaWith the first major of the season starting tonight I thought it's best to bump this so tft isn't getting clogged up.
I have threw a few Darts at Painter 150/1 Klaasen 150/1 Wright 100/1 Hamilton 50/1 & Newton 50/1. C5 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on June 08, 2013, 01:19:08 PM Jenkins 2.7 vs kim huybrechts
Thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on June 08, 2013, 06:22:09 PM Some incred value in the darts today. Gutted I slept thru it all!
Not sure it will continue into later rounds but will have a look when sober tomorrow Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on June 09, 2013, 12:18:53 AM Fred can't get on with Sky Bet so I will stick it in here as it will be gone by the morning.
Hamilton 12/5 to beat Wade. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 12:32:37 AM Do you want any on m8?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on June 09, 2013, 12:54:37 AM Do you want any on m8? I'm full, thanks anyway.Hamilton has won the last 6 out of 7 meetings(the other was a draw) & has a better tournament average. No doubt it will be another good value loser tho:( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 12:56:17 AM Do you want any on m8? I'm full, thanks anyway.Hamilton has won the last 6 out of 7 meetings(the other was a draw) & has a better tournament average. No doubt it will be another good value loser tho:( Ok, cheers and gl us! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 02:48:13 PM That 9th leg was massive, think the break came at just the right time.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on June 09, 2013, 02:49:40 PM Sigh - come on Hammer
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on June 09, 2013, 03:13:30 PM Booooooooooom
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on June 09, 2013, 03:14:08 PM Can't touch this
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on June 09, 2013, 03:16:36 PM Player well, god knows how they Players handle the pressure at times.
I was a nerovus wreck watching Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on June 09, 2013, 03:17:25 PM I agree - Hammer showed some class there at 8-8
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 03:19:31 PM Was a great match and they both played really well, doubles for dough thooooooooo
Great shout m8 ;hattip; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on June 09, 2013, 03:28:19 PM Wow! Taylor is 2.32! When was the last time?
Thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on June 09, 2013, 03:31:18 PM Wow! Taylor is 2.32! When was the last time? Thoughts? Probably a fair price, but well and truly gobbled. Come on the Power! Edit - can you see the mug punter in me?! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on June 09, 2013, 03:41:34 PM Every time I watch these two I think it can't get much better, it does - incredible arrows
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on June 09, 2013, 04:03:01 PM That 177 was so incredible!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on June 09, 2013, 04:16:12 PM I think we need to be on top of this MVG Taylor encounter over the next year or so. No way Taylor was ever that big there.
Think we should put some time and discussion into MVG missing doubles and whether we can turn a profit. I've noticed he rarely takes out +100 shots, and whether there is money to be made in laying his highest out shot (or whether there is too much risk in this due to 1 offs) We must be able to find a "Taylor factor" with MVG thou Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on June 09, 2013, 04:17:50 PM Is it fair to say MvG has more difficulty hitting a double with his first dart, rather than when he hits a set-up dart first?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 04:19:37 PM Good shout Guy, after the Hamilton match I opted to just enjoy the game :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on June 09, 2013, 04:45:03 PM If anyone had a Youwin account they have Wright @200/1 for the Matchplay
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 05:07:04 PM If anyone had a Youwin account they have Wright @200/1 for the Matchplay Think they have been labelled as dodgepots on TfT m8 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: MahoganyVic on June 09, 2013, 05:15:45 PM Great shout on backing Wright. Pretty amazing when a few of you guys have been tipping him up for months (similar to mvg last year), but it seems to take the bookies so long to react. Didnt get on myself but a mate is on him at huuuge odds for this matchplay after hearing me banging on about it!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 05:43:44 PM Posted it in TfT, but surely Hamilton is too big @ 9/4 with Hills to beat Barney?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on June 09, 2013, 07:28:05 PM Can I aftertime my Taylor, Wright, Hammer trixie - oh ok then I will anyway
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 07:32:20 PM Can I aftertime my Taylor, Wright, Hammer trixie - oh ok then I will anyway (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a170/RhymePhile/Weird%20stuff/Deanrollingeyes.gif#roll%20eyes%20gif%20350x197) ;) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on June 09, 2013, 07:32:59 PM Can I aftertime my Taylor, Wright, Hammer trixie - oh ok then I will anyway ;bigadz; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on June 09, 2013, 07:41:47 PM I don't care Adz :)
Gone in on Hamilton tonight....in first Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on June 09, 2013, 08:18:08 PM wowzers! GLGL boys
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on June 09, 2013, 08:37:35 PM well done fellas - what a game - sick sweat for you all
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 08:44:26 PM I didn't fancy it tbh, but then I saw Claypole was on board 1/2 way through and was happier :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on June 09, 2013, 08:45:39 PM I know it's only a bit of fun, but I'd probably be funking for just about anyone against that haircut.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on June 09, 2013, 08:46:11 PM ONE TIME is getting used for this.
C'mon Snakebite!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2013, 08:47:47 PM ONE TIME is getting used for this. C'mon Snakebite!! Good luck mate, I've had a score on him for the sweat :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on June 09, 2013, 08:49:00 PM Booooooom - don't fancy anything in this game. Tempted to see what line is in final as Hamilton I think has the capability to completely bottle final - however hard to anti funk him so might just watch and enjoy
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 22, 2013, 09:37:35 AM Bump for Blackpool
I am on Hamilton tonight @ 1.5. Thought it looked like a good price. Might get close but just cant see him losing. Could just as easily be a walk over Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on July 22, 2013, 11:04:30 AM Bump for Blackpool Baxter has a good record in his Hometown Tournament, looks priced correctly to me.I am on Hamilton tonight @ 1.5. Thought it looked like a good price. Might get close but just cant see him losing. Could just as easily be a walk over Quite like Caven to win but he can be a bit of a bottler. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 22, 2013, 11:15:58 AM See Taylor kicked on yesterday, and MVG had a little scare against Lloyd!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 22, 2013, 11:00:38 PM Bump for Blackpool Baxter has a good record in his Hometown Tournament, looks priced correctly to me.I am on Hamilton tonight @ 1.5. Thought it looked like a good price. Might get close but just cant see him losing. Could just as easily be a walk over Quite like Caven to win but he can be a bit of a bottler. ill take it - went off @1.33 too Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 23, 2013, 07:47:57 PM Any wisdom for tonight fellas?
I'm on whitlock pretty hard Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 23, 2013, 07:49:14 PM And if peoPle are posting in TFT can you cross post here as I can't keeP up with that thread on busy days and miss stuff
Cheers Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on July 23, 2013, 10:29:02 PM Is Taylor back with his wife?
That looked like Yvonne clapping when he won the first leg v Jenkins. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on July 23, 2013, 10:35:46 PM Is Taylor back with his wife? That looked like Yvonne clapping when he won the first leg v Jenkins. Earlier this year, there was a report they'd become friends again. Might not be a complete reconciliation, but good for them either way. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 25, 2013, 07:25:11 PM Beautiful leg of darts from Pipe
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 25, 2013, 07:28:10 PM oh wow this game
4 180s in 2 legs and 87 2 dart finish & taylor takes out 100+ under pressure edit 2 more 180s whilst typing Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nico29 on July 25, 2013, 07:45:11 PM Really like wade tonight, have bkd him on the handicap -2.5@11/10, rather than the match odds of 4/6.
Wade loves the venue, played great v anderson last time out, whereas Whitlock almost won by default v painter, who just blew. Am also on the machine most 180's at 7/4, he seems more prolific as of late round the red bit, 7/4 seems too big v the aussie-wade hit 7 to whitlock's 4 in the last round. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 25, 2013, 07:57:32 PM Really like wade tonight, have bkd him on the handicap -2.5@11/10, rather than the match odds of 4/6. Wade loves the venue, played great v anderson last time out, whereas Whitlock almost won by default v painter, who just blew. Am also on the machine most 180's at 7/4, he seems more prolific as of late round the red bit, 7/4 seems too big v the aussie-wade hit 7 to whitlock's 4 in the last round. I agree. Also like over 95.5 ave. covered it last 8 times he has played in the Matchplay. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 25, 2013, 10:55:23 PM Darts is just incredible! That 135 outshot from wade was immense
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nico29 on July 25, 2013, 10:56:59 PM Huge sighs@losing both my bets despite wade winning.
Massive cheers for that match tho! Thanks for mentioning that wade average bet bazza, saved some of the pain. :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on July 25, 2013, 11:00:07 PM Never sworn on blonde, sorry tighty....that was fucking incredible
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 25, 2013, 11:24:50 PM Lewis over 95.5 at Evens looks good. Covered it in 5 of last 6 matches and averaged well over 100 in 2nd half of his match with Dolan.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nico29 on July 26, 2013, 06:52:04 PM Lewis over 95.5 at Evens looks good. Covered it in 5 of last 6 matches and averaged well over 100 in 2nd half of his match with Dolan. Have backed this too, looked an odds on shot to me. Bar a small tickle on MVG on the handicap I can't find much else tonight, anyone got any fancies? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 26, 2013, 07:09:06 PM I've taken under 13.5 180s in Lewis Hamilton @ 2.12
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 26, 2013, 09:04:43 PM Some game this!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nico29 on July 26, 2013, 09:14:11 PM Best sweat ever on the Lewis average,cheers bazza...again!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 26, 2013, 09:15:06 PM Best sweat ever on the Lewis average,cheers bazza...again!! Never in doubt! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 27, 2013, 08:41:15 AM I'm liking the overs on Lewis average line again with BV. Covered in 6 of last 7 matches. Loves playing MVG as the pace of the game suits him. MVG will average 100+ giving him fewer chances at doubles. Also think the 11/4 on Lewis winning is on the big side as well.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 07:38:43 PM this is going to be a special night of darts
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on July 27, 2013, 07:42:51 PM this is going to be a special night of darts I have a very good seat, right in front of a TV at dusk. Just need to stay in the comp... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 27, 2013, 07:43:46 PM this is going to be a special night of darts Not wrong so far! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 08:03:16 PM between MVG 177's and lewis' continual 140's (after 60,60) are going to cost me chunks here
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 08:29:45 PM anyone got thoughts on Wadey being 4.5 vs taylor?
Taylor has had weak spells this week and wadey has been rock solid Speedy advice welcomed Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 08:30:33 PM and silly sweat on the 180s here! Need Lewis to break back
edit: come on wadeyyyyyy edit 2: fgbdfjgbaljdfbglag edit 3: ZOMG come on wadey] edit4: wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 08:31:56 PM BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
<3 that man Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 08:36:21 PM OMG! I love Lewis!
gonna roll it onto Wade, cant see 4.4 being a bad bet Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 27, 2013, 08:37:08 PM Vintage Jackpot.
Those two are going to have some special battles over the next few years. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on July 27, 2013, 08:38:07 PM Lolz
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 09:32:07 PM I am all loaded up on Wade here! Took more at 11s given my Taylor cooling off theory
1 time wadey - 1 time Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 09:39:19 PM PPPUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 09:46:10 PM oh hi der 146! They trade off nicely!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 09:52:48 PM #sweating!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 27, 2013, 09:57:04 PM Hope Taylor wakes himself up in this interval!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 10:14:26 PM what a game! Its very different to the MVG/Lewis game but exciting in a different way
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 27, 2013, 10:24:25 PM safe to say wadey missing 3 shots at D10 has ruined my night !
As if that ever happened! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 27, 2013, 10:29:59 PM Not a bad night of darts.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 27, 2013, 10:40:12 PM If Taylor had lost that it would have just about summed up my day!
Roll on tomorrow for what should be an incredible match! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nico29 on July 28, 2013, 10:43:57 AM N1 again on the lewis average bet bazza! :)
Those bets alone have kept me in profit this week. Also didn't back him on the win market but did on the handicap. The Lewis Mvg match itself last night was an absolute classic. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on July 28, 2013, 04:11:46 PM Ok bazza come on find us some magic. Think Lewis can get it done?
So wish I had greened out at 10-10 last night! Just felt wade had the upper hand but the break scuppered him Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 28, 2013, 06:37:10 PM Over 10.5 180s at 19/20 with Spreadex is best I can find. Would only let me have peanuts on though.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 28, 2013, 06:43:06 PM Lewis 3/1 with Victor?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nico29 on July 28, 2013, 07:16:15 PM 3/1 was ridic, 5/2 now, still beats betfair so am on, lewis can def win this, make him 2/1 max myself.
Lewis has been on fire at times this week, my bet is on him to get max checkout@5/4. Def more of a flip imo, so anything over evens seems good. Like +10.5 too, but no spreadex account, will take the +11.5 instead, he's gonna get loads. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 28, 2013, 07:18:17 PM Lewis 3/1 with Victor? Missed it! Backed over on the Lewis average again. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Dubai on July 28, 2013, 07:24:23 PM I like Lewis over 97.5 avg. Got some on but anyone that can get on with hills or vc and could get me some on please pm or post here
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Dubai on July 28, 2013, 07:28:23 PM Tried to post that half hour ago, weird obv too late now
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 28, 2013, 08:26:36 PM Lewis killing the 180s.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: outragous76 on August 31, 2013, 07:58:27 PM PDC World Champs
Im really liking Lewis this year, is 12.5 on BF enough to start loading the gun? MVG and Taylor both 3.5 ish. I guess the only down side is that he probably has to beat them both? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on October 04, 2013, 07:27:46 PM Any fancies for the Grand Prix?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on October 04, 2013, 08:00:09 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on October 04, 2013, 08:45:01 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on October 04, 2013, 08:49:35 PM Incredible work. wpwp Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on October 04, 2013, 09:05:48 PM Done Taylor with Boyles and money back if MVG wins
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Acidmouse on October 16, 2013, 02:28:10 PM Leeds arena added to the premier league darts schedule :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 04, 2013, 06:45:58 PM GSOD draw very lopsided. Taylor, MVG, Lewis all in the one half.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 04, 2013, 09:41:51 PM Barney 14/1 EW and Waites 50/1 EW look fair. As does Huybrechts at 11/4 to win group C.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 12, 2013, 11:05:36 PM Fantastic from Gary Anderson, massively impressive.
Only best of 9 legs, but it was a winner take all. Looked back to his best. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: seven2unsuited on November 13, 2013, 11:28:53 PM Normally can't stand Hankey but fair play with the comeback there
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2013, 08:52:19 PM A bit late to put this on tft and fred is already on Taylor averages but I cant see how Taylor is 7/4 for most 180s with Spirting, looks a pick them to me and most of tge bookies agree.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on November 14, 2013, 09:37:58 PM That last leg hurt so much from Taylor. :(
Come on Ando!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on November 14, 2013, 09:38:50 PM FFS, Taylor just doesn't feel pressure..
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 14, 2013, 09:39:04 PM 40/1 Anderson for the Worlds Champs anyone?
Looks right back to his 2011 form to me. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: kp24 on November 14, 2013, 09:41:50 PM Yh looking really good tonight Anderson some value there at 40s
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2013, 09:48:51 PM 40/1 Anderson for the Worlds Champs anyone? Theirs one more Tv Toutnament before the Worlds, id keep an Eye on him in that before pulling the trigger.Looks right back to his 2011 form to me. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 14, 2013, 09:54:37 PM 40/1 Anderson for the Worlds Champs anyone? Theirs one more Tv Toutnament before the Worlds, id keep an Eye on him in that before pulling the trigger.Looks right back to his 2011 form to me. When is the draw made for the Worlds? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2013, 10:03:56 PM 40/1 Anderson for the Worlds Champs anyone? Theirs one more Tv Toutnament before the Worlds, id keep an Eye on him in that before pulling the trigger.Looks right back to his 2011 form to me. When is the draw made for the Worlds? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 14, 2013, 10:17:33 PM 40/1 Anderson for the Worlds Champs anyone? Theirs one more Tv Toutnament before the Worlds, id keep an Eye on him in that before pulling the trigger.Looks right back to his 2011 form to me. When is the draw made for the Worlds? Final qualifier is on the 25th Nov. I think it's made shortly after that. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 14, 2013, 10:22:03 PM Lewis a beast on the 180s
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Young_gun on November 14, 2013, 10:29:19 PM Cracking match this! not fussed who wins though
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 14, 2013, 10:40:25 PM 8/1 Jackpot for the Worlds wont last long.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Young_gun on November 14, 2013, 10:44:52 PM Taylor still plays pretty good you know :) hard to go against him, even tonight he was outscored in the averages and still wins pretty easy...
That was a cracker, didn't hear the averages i imagine both above 100? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2013, 10:51:21 PM 105 average from Lewis after missing 10 Darts to win the 3rd leg.
MvG brings the best out in him. 12 180s in 18 legs haha Surely Adie is fav the next time they meet? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Young_gun on November 14, 2013, 10:53:34 PM On that form Lewis will beat anyone, but Taylor wont let him play at his own pace as he is a bit more methodical so wont let him hit his own rhythm. Will always back Taylor as he has proved time and time again
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 14, 2013, 10:53:43 PM 105 average from Lewis after missing 10 Darts to win the 3rd leg. MvG brings the best out in him. 12 180s in 18 legs haha Surely Adie is fav the next time they meet? Hopefully not! But yeah he should be. Prices for the Worlds are the wrong way round. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2013, 10:58:09 PM 105 average from Lewis after missing 10 Darts to win the 3rd leg. MvG brings the best out in him. 12 180s in 18 legs haha Surely Adie is fav the next time they meet? Hopefully not! But yeah he should be. Prices for the Worlds are the wrong way round. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on November 14, 2013, 11:01:58 PM On that form Lewis will beat anyone, but Taylor wont let him play at his own pace as he is a bit more methodical so wont let him hit his own rhythm. Will always back Taylor as he has proved time and time again Agreed, Lewis was correct with what he said about winning any game when they play the pace he wants.But when hes up against a Dolan/Pipe anything can happen as he cant get his rythme. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 16, 2013, 04:56:06 PM Somewhat surprised Waites is slight favourite over Thornton.
I would have had them the other way round. Thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 16, 2013, 10:39:04 PM Somewhat surprised Waites is slight favourite over Thornton. I would have had them the other way round. Thoughts? I tend to agree. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on November 16, 2013, 11:35:07 PM Is there a H2H record between them that might have influenced the price?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 17, 2013, 08:52:50 AM Is there a H2H record between them that might have influenced the price? I can't find any record of them playing each other. They may have in some tinpot BDO tournament years ago but nothing that would have any relevance. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: stato_1 on November 17, 2013, 03:31:50 PM Is anyone watching this match? ridiculous standard
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on November 17, 2013, 03:39:10 PM Is anyone watching this match? ridiculous standard Missed the beginning like a fish, caught the replay of Taylor's 167. SICK AVERAGES!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on November 17, 2013, 03:41:31 PM Is anyone watching this match? ridiculous standard Crazy ArrersTitle: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on November 17, 2013, 03:43:02 PM Wow. Those 160s!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 17, 2013, 03:47:45 PM Taylor too good. Phenomenal match. Lewis a beast on 180s as usual and Taylor matching him!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2013, 10:28:27 PM Now that was some darts!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 01, 2013, 10:30:46 PM MVG is back!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2013, 10:42:06 PM MVG is back! I was cringing halfway through, because it looked like it was gonna be a case of 'Taylors gonna Taylor' Liverpool cost my mate a fair few quid today in an acca, so he lumped on MVG @ 3.8 to get out of it and was doing his nut after the 2nd interval :D Did the same thing he did to Lewis though, and absolutely destroyed him! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 02, 2013, 08:43:21 AM It seemed to me that Taylor showed a bit of fatique, these Tournaments woth 3 matches don't suit him as much.
He wasn't very happy losing that match and im sure it will mean he will be even more focused for the World Champs. Draw is half 11 today. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 02, 2013, 09:39:12 AM I was also thinking it was the worst result for Lewis, Wade, Barney and anyone else thinking they might have a shot at the world title: MvG finding form and Taylor getting wound up.
Is it as simple as saying two horse race? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 02, 2013, 11:46:12 AM I was also thinking it was the worst result for Lewis, Wade, Barney and anyone else thinking they might have a shot at the world title: MvG finding form and Taylor getting wound up. Is it as simple as saying two horse race? Lewis > MVG imo. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 02, 2013, 12:09:43 PM Warmed to Lewis a lot recently. Used to be a proper douche. Think the turning point for him was when he had his kid.
Really hoping it's not a Taylor MVG final for the worlds! Barney for the love and Huybrechts or Anderson for the wallet. No major clashes in first round really, Kim vs Ronny again though! Hope his missus gets some decent airtime. Anyone any thoughts on a tickle on Winstanley? He can handle himself on the big stage and when he is on form he can throw with the best of them. Edit: I am aware that we have Burnett in the first round who has been ok of late but @200/1 it feels like it#s worth a tenna ew. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 02, 2013, 12:11:02 PM It seemed to me that Taylor showed a bit of fatique, these Tournaments woth 3 matches don't suit him as much. He wasn't very happy losing that match and im sure it will mean he will be even more focused for the World Champs. Draw is half 11 today. He liked his trophy though :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 03, 2013, 06:15:57 PM Ladbrokes are doing money back as a free bet upto £25 if Taylor wins the Worlds, I've thrown £25 on Lewis at 6-1 rather than MVG at a low 3-1 although Anderson at 40-1 was tempting but you never can tell who's gonna show up when he is playing.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 03, 2013, 06:30:10 PM Ladbrokes are doing money back as a free bet upto £25 if Taylor wins the Worlds, I've thrown £25 on Lewis at 6-1 rather than MVG at a low 3-1 although Anderson at 40-1 was tempting but you never can tell who's gonna show up when he is playing. Only thing you can trust Anderson to do is wear a horrible shirt! Lewis seems a deece shout. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 04, 2013, 12:23:44 PM Peter Wright still looking for sponsors for the worlds
email jowrighty@aol.com if interested Would the blonde collective be interested? no idea how much it would cost or anything Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 12, 2013, 08:42:33 AM 888 are doing 13/2 on Lewis and 5/2 1-2 if anybody facy's him over MVG
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 12, 2013, 09:07:57 AM A few interests for me in the worlds in order of preference with a nice priced outsider to upset Phil Taylor
Kim Huybrechts to win Q2 4-1 Sportingbet Lewis 1-2 5/2 888 Lewis to win 13/2 888 R Thornton to win Q1 14-1 Sportingbet Good luck all Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 12, 2013, 10:29:45 PM Everyone excited??
Few darts discussions in tft from the pros. Thought I would put them here as I know some people don't read every post over there. Assuming bazza and sir snow don't mind? Quote from: Bazzaboy There's a market for player to hit the most 180s tomorrow night. Betfred have Joe Cullen at 12/1 which is too big (BMU go 4/1, PP 13/2) He is a streaky player capable of hitting a lot of 180s if he is "on". Quote from: exstream What about most vs his opponent at 2/1? Quote from: Snowball Id avoid that personally, Wright 4 or more 180s is one of my bets of the night. I think I have a deece bet, pretty short price but can see it getting home comfortably. Will post as soon as I have got on myself. If I manage to.. anyone got a boylesports account with ok limits? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 12, 2013, 10:49:30 PM Its Chrimbo Eve Millidonk:)
I like the look of Lewis most tournament 180s at 21/10, hes hitting more than ever amd I would be very surprised if he didnt get to the semis with MvG being the danger. Ill also be popping into a few Ladbrokes and taking lewis 6/1 outright money back as free bet if Taylor wins it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 12, 2013, 10:51:41 PM and I dont have a Boyles account, I closed it after they paid a Darts average wrong.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 12, 2013, 11:02:02 PM Xmas eve indeed mate!!
Yeah, think Guy Johnson tipped Lewis in here or maybe tft @12s a while ago. Really wish I had listened.. Like his chances. Was actually reading about him earlier whilst trawling twitter to see if I could find an edge anywhere.. didn't realise he dumped his missus who he has his daughter with 4 days after the champs, then tried to swerve paying CSA. I actually thought his wife was the same woman just with blonde hair. Lolz, she is completely different person who has 3 kids of her own from a previous marriage and he has a son with her.. the things you learn from a spot of reading. Still some way from Whitlock who dumped his missus and 3 kids for that German filth bag. Sighs, my bet is an average bet as well. Will be my biggest bet of the comp if I manage to get on.. I could be in for a deece payday as long as MVG and Taylor are not in the final. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 07:09:32 PM Just a lol bet from me for opening night.
John Part 3 - 0 @ 15/8 Dean Winstanley 3 - 2 @ 4/1 Peter Wright 3 - 1 @ 11/5 Let's play daaaaaaarts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 13, 2013, 07:12:43 PM Just a lol bet from me for opening night. Id be delighted with that outcome.John Part 3 - 0 @ 15/8 Dean Winstanley 3 - 2 @ 4/1 Peter Wright 3 - 1 @ 11/5 Let's play daaaaaaarts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 13, 2013, 07:21:04 PM Over 7.5 180's wright v Cullen
Over 7.5 180'sBurnett v Winstanley Winstanley most 180's in match Just an interest for the 1st night. Have also stuck a couple of quid on Nicholson to win Q2 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 08:04:11 PM He's trying hard not to win 3-0..
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 08:19:47 PM Wp Part.. Hope Michels can win it now.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 13, 2013, 08:20:14 PM Wp Part.. Hope Michels can win it now. That was nasty Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 13, 2013, 08:25:47 PM Part has the demons.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 08:35:51 PM Ooooh. That was nice.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 13, 2013, 08:54:49 PM Ooooh. That was nice. Missed the end, how did it finish? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 13, 2013, 09:01:09 PM This prelim match is an embarrassment.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 13, 2013, 09:02:39 PM Although Szabo leaving himself a 164 finish after about 30 darts in leg 1 gave me a chuckle.
Camelbet was 1,000/1 he hit it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Dubai on December 13, 2013, 09:27:23 PM Taylor game could be funny. Has anyone ever lost in the worlds without having an attempt at a double? Chance of it tonight
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 09:27:50 PM Ooooh. That was nice. Missed the end, how did it finish? Michel's took out 120 (via double 10) to go to deciding set then Part woke up pretty much. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 13, 2013, 09:30:50 PM Ooooh. That was nice. Missed the end, how did it finish? Michel's took out 120 (via double 10) to go to deciding set then Part woke up pretty much. There a results database online for the darts if you have missed a match for reference in the future, always had a problem with this? And cheers btw. I would have thought Part got in touch with whoever was in Stephen Lee's ear if he had given that game away from where he was. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 09:34:49 PM On phone atm. Will post some links tomorrow ant.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 13, 2013, 09:35:11 PM On phone atm. Will post some links tomorrow ant. n1 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 13, 2013, 09:38:14 PM Taylor game could be funny. Has anyone ever lost in the worlds without having an attempt at a double? Chance of it tonight To be fair to the fella he did improve as the game went on. I'd still lay Evens he wins a leg though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 13, 2013, 09:43:58 PM This prelim match is an embarrassment. averages similar to Parts Match.Very strange from Part, he played pretty well for 2/3 of the match but was honking for about 8 Legs in a row. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 13, 2013, 09:46:21 PM Anyone who has a bwin Account, Taylor match under 13 legs is 6/10
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 13, 2013, 10:18:58 PM Apparently there are "investigations" into unusual betting patterns in the Szabo v Moss game.
Looked like they were both trying to lose to me! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 13, 2013, 10:24:39 PM Apparently there are "investigations" into unusual betting patterns in the Szabo v Moss game. Looked like they were both trying to lose to me! Anyone who speaks Hungarian will hopefully find that funny. Szabo is Hungarian for Taylor. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 10:27:58 PM Just went to buy Taylor's shirt. £85.99 tho, dont think I can bring myself to do it. :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 13, 2013, 10:30:20 PM Apparently there are "investigations" into unusual betting patterns in the Szabo v Moss game. Averages and double percentage are in line with most prelims.Looked like they were both trying to lose to me! Parts match looked more dodgy. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 10:38:07 PM Wooooow
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 13, 2013, 11:04:08 PM This has been good to watch!
I bet those boys that had £300k on Taylor at 1.01 were sweating a little for a minute ;D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on December 13, 2013, 11:20:04 PM Time to get your cards out
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 13, 2013, 11:29:26 PM He could have made himself look good there, but instead he makes himself look like an even bigger mug!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 13, 2013, 11:35:39 PM He could have made himself look good there, but instead he makes himself look like an even bigger mug! Agreed. As if he tried saying the qualifiers have an advantage..then says he's had a bit of a cold.. Just admit you didn't play well and the kiwi didn't let you off the hook.. A lot better than I was expecting toniught to be. Now come on Winstanley! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 13, 2013, 11:45:34 PM massive shock taylor making an excuse for a bad performance
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 11:51:11 AM There a results database online for the darts if you have missed a match for reference in the future, always had a problem with this? For live results I use: http://live.dartsdata.com/MatchesList.aspx (http://live.dartsdata.com/MatchesList.aspx) Just click on live, then you can click on the game and it updates the average after every dart thrown. Sometimes it is a little bit wrong but it normally corrects itself within 5 seconds. For historic results I like: http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/FixtureList.aspx?EventKey=4486 (http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/FixtureList.aspx?EventKey=4486) has all the results by tournament but you can also click on the individual players and it will show you their form, best results etc. etc. That said I think just watching as much darts as you can is the best thing to do. A lot of the times the results don't accurately reflect how close a game was. You also get a much better feel for how they are playing that way. A lot of the darts players are also on twitter and they sometimes give stuff away like people being ill or people smashing 9 darters for fun. LOVE THE DARTS!! Last night turned out to be much better than I expected. Was very impressed with Burnett. Wright and Burnett could have easily had 100+ averages if it wasn't for a few bad legs at the end of the games. :( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 14, 2013, 02:09:36 PM That said I think just watching as much darts as you can is the best thing to do. Exceptional quote there and made me lol. WP. I did enjoy enjoy it last night. I used to absolutely love Dennis Priestley when I watched a lot more than I do now back in the day, he was my out and out favourite player growing up. Just look at his twitter pic ffs, the man oozes class. (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000537466708/704babef58e82859c9b0161e68089da4.jpeg) Cheers for the links! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 14, 2013, 04:06:46 PM Terry Jenkins hits a 9 darter but goes on to lose to a qualifier.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 14, 2013, 04:58:11 PM Kyle Anderson bangs in a 9 darter as well.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 04:59:50 PM madness. We could have 2 players hit 9 darters in the first round and both go out!
A bit more consistency and we would smash the 100+ avgs Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2013, 05:07:34 PM Crazy arrers
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on December 14, 2013, 05:10:36 PM madness. We could have 2 players hit 9 darters in the first round and both go out! A bit more consistency and we would smash the 100+ avgs Is it looking good? Have there been any? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 05:12:00 PM madness. We could have 2 players hit 9 darters in the first round and both go out! A bit more consistency and we would smash the 100+ avgs Is it looking good? Have there been any? Yep Jenkins and Auzzie Anderson both hit 9 darters in the first round afternoon session and both are out of the comp.. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 05:13:34 PM oh sorry 100+ avgs. no not yet. Plenty of time tho. I'm not worried yet..
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on December 14, 2013, 06:06:07 PM oh sorry 100+ avgs. no not yet. Plenty of time tho. I'm not worried yet.. Ty, know nothing about darts but followed you in! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 06:44:32 PM oh sorry 100+ avgs. no not yet. Plenty of time tho. I'm not worried yet.. Ty, know nothing about darts but followed you in! No pressure. :( *bites nails I'm still confident. I have a PS4 and a few games riding on it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 14, 2013, 07:42:24 PM Dogs 3/3 in the prelims..
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 08:39:57 PM Good atmosphere tonight. Crowds are doing Yaya and Koulo Toure chants. Looks pretty com. Wish I was there.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 14, 2013, 08:52:08 PM Good atmosphere tonight. Crowds are doing Yaya and Koulo Toure chants. Looks pretty com. Wish I was there. Surely they should be doing this for the Huybrechts brothers? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 09:02:52 PM Good atmosphere tonight. Crowds are doing Yaya and Koulo Toure chants. Looks pretty com. Wish I was there. Surely they should be doing this for the Huybrechts brothers? Ronnie would work but Kim doesn't have much of a ring to it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 14, 2013, 09:12:07 PM John Part is on a completely different level to all other Sky commentators (not saying much I know).
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 14, 2013, 09:18:16 PM Good atmosphere tonight. Crowds are doing Yaya and Koulo Toure chants. Looks pretty com. Wish I was there. Surely they should be doing this for the Huybrechts brothers? Ronnie would work but Kim doesn't have much of a ring to it. Kimmy works. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 09:20:40 PM Good atmosphere tonight. Crowds are doing Yaya and Koulo Toure chants. Looks pretty com. Wish I was there. Surely they should be doing this for the Huybrechts brothers? Ronnie would work but Kim doesn't have much of a ring to it. Kimmy works. like it. You mean by knowing shots and generally talking sense bazza? I'm not a fan tbh. Find him really dull and boring. Get Stephen Fry and Flintoff in there. Flintoff was incred. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 14, 2013, 09:24:54 PM Good atmosphere tonight. Crowds are doing Yaya and Koulo Toure chants. Looks pretty com. Wish I was there. Surely they should be doing this for the Huybrechts brothers? Ronnie would work but Kim doesn't have much of a ring to it. Kimmy works. like it. You mean by knowing shots and generally talking sense bazza? I'm not a fan tbh. Find him really dull and boring. Get Stephen Fry and Flintoff in there. Flintoff was incred. Yeah he is different class. Mason also very good. I wish Mardle could learn to play again as at least I only had I watch him once or twice rather than listen to him every night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2013, 09:40:23 PM Good atmosphere tonight. Crowds are doing Yaya and Koulo Toure chants. Looks pretty com. Wish I was there. Surely they should be doing this for the Huybrechts brothers? Ronnie would work but Kim doesn't have much of a ring to it. Kimmy works. like it. You mean by knowing shots and generally talking sense bazza? I'm not a fan tbh. Find him really dull and boring. Get Stephen Fry and Flintoff in there. Flintoff was incred. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 14, 2013, 09:44:15 PM Bristow makes me laugh, it's like he is unaware of anything going on around him, and is just sat there talking to himself :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 09:59:38 PM lolz, tbf Fry was awful but I did like Flintoff. Mason is probs the best tbf.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 14, 2013, 10:14:49 PM Im sorry but a pissed Cricketer slabbering into a mic is ridiculous for the Sports premier Tournament.
Could you imagine Lewis getting a slotin tomorrows Test match after sinking pints all Day?? Mason imo is the best. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 10:23:15 PM Im sorry but a pissed Cricketer slabbering into a mic is ridiculous for the Sports premier Tournament. Could you imagine Lewis getting a slotin tomorrows Test match after sinking pints all Day?? Mason imo is the best. meh, for a couple of hours over the space of 2 weeks I welcome something a bit different. I thought he was funny anyway. Mason defo the best for your proper darts fan though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 14, 2013, 10:25:22 PM Barbero deserved that. Really tidy player.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 14, 2013, 11:22:39 PM Bitter sweet. Had pennies on Nicholson 3-0, but he had 100+ avg until last leg. :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 15, 2013, 07:50:48 PM wow. fackin love the darts.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 15, 2013, 08:34:31 PM wow. fackin love the darts. am actually rooting for both players! no idea who i want to win! Chissy surely breaks to send into a tie breaker! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 15, 2013, 08:36:25 PM 101.49 avg. 3 darts to win it. Obv brick..
great game but massive sigh for the bet. Big John deserved it IMO. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 15, 2013, 08:40:21 PM big john for spoty next year milli
that average bet is a crackerjack be amazed if it isnt weighed in Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 15, 2013, 08:42:04 PM Everything about Henderson's action is wrong. No idea how it manages to hold up under pressure. Chisnall gave that away though with brutal finishing.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 15, 2013, 08:47:09 PM i enjoy henderson walk before he throws
did very well to win that despite chisnall giving it away Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 15, 2013, 08:55:46 PM You would think he would be skinny with the yards he covers.. they could of done with subtitles for his interview. Yeah not worriedaabout bet yeah but an early one would have been a nice Brucey bonus.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 15, 2013, 08:59:37 PM Great entertainment and like just about everyone else I didn't want any of them to lose.
Milli I text Snowball during the interview saying we needed subtitles and I'm Scottish! I think the adrenalin was making it worse :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 15, 2013, 09:04:27 PM Great entertainment and like just about everyone else I didn't want any of them to lose. Milli I text Snowball during the interview saying we needed subtitles and I'm Scottish! I think the adrenalin was making it worse :D Lolz know what you mean, I spent years translating for my grandad who is Scottish and loves a drink. I was still in no mans land with big John. Barney on soon. Wiiiiii. #myfavourite Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 15, 2013, 09:14:02 PM Barney is playing Raphael the Manc right back.... Barney Army!!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 15, 2013, 09:54:51 PM Dolan -1.5 @ Evens and under 6.5 180s at 5/6 look more than fair.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 15, 2013, 10:09:58 PM Dolan -1.5 @ Evens and under 6.5 180s at 5/6 look more than fair. I like Dolan most 180s at 11/8, shiuld befavTitle: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 15, 2013, 10:16:47 PM Barney is playing Raphael the Manc right back.... Barney Army!!!! Haha, Steve Beatons love child surely. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2013, 08:00:19 PM wp Ricky Evans. Such a fish for not being on. Could destroy Merv as well.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 16, 2013, 08:02:09 PM wp Ricky Evans. Such a fish for not being on. Could destroy Merv as well. Felt like his average was much higher. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2013, 08:06:02 PM wp Ricky Evans. Such a fish for not being on. Could destroy Merv as well. Felt like his average was much higher. Agreed. Was only 88 or something. Kim is our only chance of 100+ today I reckon. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 16, 2013, 08:13:31 PM What's Sapap? That throwing action for a start!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2013, 08:37:05 PM Plenty of airtime for Mrs Huybrechts plz.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 16, 2013, 08:45:53 PM Plenty of airtime for Mrs Huybrechts plz. Ronny's missus, Nancy? You are an animal milligan! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2013, 08:49:22 PM Plenty of airtime for Mrs Huybrechts plz. Ronny's missus, Nancy? You are an animal milligan! Standard. I even thought Sylvia was looking deece last night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2013, 08:51:50 PM 12/5 Peterson is fair. Beaton has an awful record here (never made it beyond last 32 and only 3 90+ averages) and Peterson should step it up a bit from his prelim.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 16, 2013, 08:56:57 PM Plenty of airtime for Mrs Huybrechts plz. Ronny's missus, Nancy? You are an animal milligan! Standard. I even thought Sylvia was looking deece last night. Den haag's finest! I like bazzaboys bet a lot! When I watched the prelim I thought this kid could beat most of what we have seen this week. Guess he is very hot and miss though! So it's 50/50! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 16, 2013, 09:23:53 PM Just turned over to watch this.
Ten minutes in, I'm reminded of the fact the BDO starts in a few weeks... ;sleep; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 16, 2013, 09:32:55 PM Get on get on. Peterson 4.2 (16/5) with 888 for most 180's in match v Beaton. Way out of line.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2013, 09:35:24 PM Get on get on. Peterson 4.2 (16/5) with 888 for most 180's in match v Beaton. Way out of line. It's a palp. They have Peterson and the tie the wrong was round. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 16, 2013, 09:42:58 PM Get on get on. Peterson 4.2 (16/5) with 888 for most 180's in match v Beaton. Way out of line. It's a palp. They have Peterson and the tie the wrong was round. Correct. Ommy - don't bet it, they'll Freeroll you, you can't win. (Lose or Void). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2013, 09:47:47 PM Stick your BDO. Devon, Devon, Devon.
Adding the pretend your hand is a mirror to my arsenal. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on December 16, 2013, 09:48:03 PM Was it 3-3 in 180s in that last match?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 16, 2013, 09:53:03 PM Just turned over to watch this. Ten minutes in, I'm reminded of the fact the BDO starts in a few weeks... ;sleep; if you didnt enjoy devons entrance then as mardle said life is not for you Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2013, 09:54:09 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on December 16, 2013, 09:55:04 PM Cheers
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 16, 2013, 10:09:51 PM Just turned over to watch this. Ten minutes in, I'm reminded of the fact the BDO starts in a few weeks... ;sleep; if you didnt enjoy devons entrance then as mardle said life is not for you No, that was magic. Can't find one on his own, but about 2.30 into this: YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZuJLZaFcMA Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 16, 2013, 10:17:42 PM YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbRINZk3Yww
hopefully tonights will be up soon Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 16, 2013, 10:17:57 PM I was at that, glad to see tge back of Mardle as he was impossible to predict.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 16, 2013, 10:21:40 PM fair to say this game wont be troubling the 100 club unfourtantley
Devon fav double is the double 1 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2013, 10:34:37 PM oioiiiii.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 16, 2013, 10:35:47 PM nice one gents
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2013, 10:36:34 PM Any of the pros like Suljovic vs Webbo? Think there is value to be had there.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2013, 10:52:32 PM Any of the pros like Suljovic vs Webbo? Think there is value to be had there. Looks about right to me. Webster looked better than he has done in a long time at the GSOD with 4 90+ averages and has a good record here. Suljovic a bit of a nightmare to play against and could average anywhere between 80 and 95 but I'd need a bit bigger than 7/4 to get involved. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 16, 2013, 10:56:24 PM Sully is on my list to avoid, he could average anything between 80and 95.
Websters showing small signs to getting back some form. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 16, 2013, 10:57:32 PM Haha, I hadn't read Bazzas post before I posted.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 16, 2013, 11:00:48 PM Cheers guys. I was probs giving too much weight to Webster's form end of last year / beginning of this. Will keep looking for an upset to weigh in on.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2013, 11:06:43 PM Merv has brought his much talked about A game tonight.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 16, 2013, 11:19:07 PM Merv has brought his much talked about A game tonight. But is another one determined to not average over 100 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on December 16, 2013, 11:22:36 PM Jees, what missing by Young.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 17, 2013, 06:44:53 AM Get on get on. Peterson 4.2 (16/5) with 888 for most 180's in match v Beaton. Way out of line. It's a palp. They have Peterson and the tie the wrong was round. Realised it was a palp after I put the bet on, a bit peed off I went to bet, luck must be on my side as after checking this morning they have paid out! Don't use them that much so not sure if they will restrict me, if so it's not the end of the world, a small victory for the normal guys. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 17, 2013, 07:12:46 AM YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GElLuP0Racs
do the dance Omm do the dance Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 17, 2013, 08:23:42 AM ;karabiner;
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 09:42:04 AM Watched the walk on about 6 times today already. Can't get enough!
Good night last night. Made up for the previous night's punting. Now time to start printing!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 17, 2013, 12:11:02 PM just realised have watched it ten times this morning....
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 17, 2013, 06:54:49 PM Had a few bets on tonight's games:
Simon Whitlock Checkout over 113.5 @ 1.83 Coral C Lloyd vs B Anderson Beau Anderson @ 4 Betfair Van Der Voort vs M Clark Clark -1.5 180's in match @ 2.38 Stan James Good luck all Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 07:19:05 PM Looking forward to tonight. Got money in the bank from yesterday so going for a lol spin. 2 consecutive bullets, roll over winnings onto every match and document bets itt. Anyone fancy it?
All my bets with VC Lloyd - 1.5 @4/5 pays £18 Lloyd most 180s @5/6 pays £18.33 If I bust then I go back to betting properly. gogogogo Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on December 17, 2013, 07:26:36 PM Looking forward to tonight. Got money in the bank from yesterday so going for a lol spin. 2 consecutive bullets, roll over winnings onto every match and document bets itt. Anyone fancy it? All my bets with VC Lloyd - 1.5 @4/5 pays £18 Lloyd most 180s @5/6 pays £18.33 If I bust then I go back to betting properly. gogogogo Betting properly? Pah. Punting is more fun! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 17, 2013, 07:34:32 PM If you lose, it's way easier to say "well, it was only a fancy" than "I did hours of research and am satisfied I made the right decision in the long run....it's just variance...blah blah"
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 07:43:35 PM Could be shortest spin ever. Serves me right. Anderson looking solid.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on December 17, 2013, 08:10:24 PM Could be shortest spin ever. Serves me right. Anderson looking solid. Keep the faith! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on December 17, 2013, 08:17:05 PM Could be shortest spin ever. Serves me right. Anderson looking solid. Keep the faith! +1 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2013, 08:25:16 PM Crowd starts chanting Stand up if you love the darts at the most crucial moment of the Lloyd v Anderson match.
Cocks Visibly put Jaws off Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 17, 2013, 08:25:58 PM Crowd starts chanting Stand up if you love the darts at the most crucial moment of the Lloyd v Anderson match. Cocks Visibly put Jaws off Hope they were sitting down Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on December 17, 2013, 08:26:51 PM Great game so far not even got a bet on and I'm enjoying it!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 17, 2013, 08:33:28 PM Anyone else think Harrington is the darts version of Andy 'turgid' Townsend?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2013, 08:36:12 PM Great game so far not even got a bet on and I'm enjoying it! Not as bad as Nigel "Steady ton, nice one forty, big leg" Pearson. More cliches than any commentator of any sport. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 08:45:27 PM Fun game. WP Anderson, fully deserved. Hate it when darts player chuck their darts, just looks so unprofessional.
Handicap bet lost, but 180s won. £18.33 on to the next one. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 08:50:02 PM Swerving qualifier. Obv Ward looks like the bet to make but too much of a crapshoot.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 17, 2013, 08:52:32 PM Go on the Dorch boy!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 08:54:03 PM wtf. VC have no market for VDV match?
http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/vincent-van-der-voort-v-matt-clark/winner (http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/vincent-van-der-voort-v-matt-clark/winner) Just tweeted them to find out what's going on. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 17, 2013, 08:56:38 PM Dorchester meh! More importantly can we settle a debate milli and me have, it's important! Which is the better walk on girl? For the pc brigade I mean who walks the best. Or for the lads, which is fitter? Blondie (wades missus) or brunette (Daniella Alfree).
Thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 17, 2013, 09:00:02 PM While you've opened that can of worms, what is the point of those dancers on stage? They do ridiculous dances to songs for basically no reason. The white van man types can ogle the walk on girls. The rest of us can enjoy the walk ons. Who are the girls in red and black there for?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 17, 2013, 09:01:19 PM While you've opened that can of worms, what is the point of those dancers on stage? They do ridiculous dances to songs for basically no reason. The white van man types can ogle the walk on girls. The rest of us can enjoy the walk ons. Who are the girls in red and black there for? Bazza Hearn's circus? Adds to the live experience maybe. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 17, 2013, 09:04:30 PM While you've opened that can of worms, what is the point of those dancers on stage? They do ridiculous dances to songs for basically no reason. The white van man types can ogle the walk on girls. The rest of us can enjoy the walk ons. Who are the girls in red and black there for? Bazza Hearn's circus? Adds to the live experience maybe. Only problem with that is it's blooming miles to the stage...unless you're in the posh seats. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 09:11:30 PM Probs not the best bet in the world but I am pretty sure I will get a chance to strain my neck sweating.
Taken money out of VC (they've just tweeted me that they have put up a market now) we have deposited in the machine. £17.96 VDV Over 3.5 180s @11/10. Legooooooo Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2013, 09:24:57 PM Mardle keeps tellin us how good a player Clark is. I have one word next to his name in my notebook - useless.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 17, 2013, 09:27:10 PM Mardle keeps tellin us how good a player Clark is. I have one word next to his name in my notebook - useless. Superman? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 09:40:33 PM This gets my vote for worst match so far.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 17, 2013, 10:09:34 PM Did not enjoy that at all. MVG tiiiiiiiime baby.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2013, 10:17:32 PM Only got a brief glimpse.
But WOW @ MVGs girlfriend. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2013, 10:50:39 PM Longer look.
Confirmed wow. Price on that being his girlfriend if he was window cleaner? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2013, 10:53:38 PM Been watching darts a lot of years think I've seen a player go for the wrong double once before.
Twice tonight. Weird. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on December 17, 2013, 10:54:03 PM Longer look. Confirmed wow. Price on that being his girlfriend if he was window cleaner? didn't think she was all that tbh. What's the other guy aiming at D10's when he's got 32 left for :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 17, 2013, 10:54:49 PM Longer look. Confirmed wow. Price on that being his girlfriend if he was window cleaner? didn't think she was all that tbh. What's the other guy aiming at D10's when he's got 32 left for :D Distracted by the eye-candy, presumably...... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 17, 2013, 11:12:53 PM Brunette is World Class
MvG was absoulte hammered, 89 average. Not to be touched in any market if hes getting into that state at the World Champs. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 05:59:54 AM Had a few bets on tonight's games: Simon Whitlock Checkout over 113.5 @ 1.83 Coral C Lloyd vs B Anderson Beau Anderson @ 4 Betfair Van Der Voort vs M Clark Clark -1.5 180's in match @ 2.38 Stan James Good luck all Nice to wake up and see Whitlock checked out for 120 so I scooped the lot, gotta love the darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 06:48:59 PM Just a few small ones for tonight's action
A Smith v S Brown, Brown most 180's, 2.6, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Under -6.5 180's, 1.83, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Monk -2.5 180's, 2, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Pipe over 112.5 checkout, 1.83, £20.00, A Lewis v D Smith, Lewis over 112.5 checkout, 1.83, £20.00, Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 18, 2013, 07:00:07 PM I like Hashimoto in the prelim tonight. Averaged 87 in both his matches on his last appearance that will get the job done tonight.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 07:24:13 PM I like Hashimoto in the prelim tonight. Averaged 87 in both his matches on his last appearance that will get the job done tonight. Seems a few of the betting underdogs keep going through, do u think the bookies are not pricing up correct? Lloyd v Anderson an example, I know it was a bit of a shambles/scrap but would never have had Anderson 4-1. Standard seems to be a bit on the low side. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 18, 2013, 07:48:24 PM I like Hashimoto in the prelim tonight. Averaged 87 in both his matches on his last appearance that will get the job done tonight. Seems a few of the betting underdogs keep going through, do u think the bookies are not pricing up correct? Lloyd v Anderson an example, I know it was a bit of a shambles/scrap but would never have had Anderson 4-1. Standard seems to be a bit on the low side. There is definitely value in some of the overseas players. It's not the goldmine it was a few years back but there are still opportunities there. For example Bwin were first to go up with their prices and they basically priced up the prelim games on the basis of nationality Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 07:53:20 PM Has anybody got a link to watch the darts online?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 18, 2013, 07:56:14 PM Has anybody got a link to watch the darts online? http://epl424.org/index.php?p=1_38_SS2 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on December 18, 2013, 09:01:10 PM on a spin up tonght from a tenner looking for my next bet any help on next game betting on betfair>?
Mabye a most 180s bet? Pipe is 1.66 currently Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 09:12:42 PM Has anybody got a link to watch the darts online? http://epl424.org/index.php?p=1_38_SS2 Thanks horsey, there is a pop up in the middle of the screen asking me to download viddyHD, do i have to do this to see the full screen or is there another way? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 18, 2013, 09:14:16 PM Has anybody got a link to watch the darts online? http://epl424.org/index.php?p=1_38_SS2 Thanks horsey, there is a pop up in the middle of the screen asking me to download viddyHD, do i have to do this to see the full screen or is there another way? Just click on the small 'x's that are on the pop ups and they should clear. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 18, 2013, 09:15:02 PM anyone more tilting to watch than justin pipe?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 09:17:57 PM Has anybody got a link to watch the darts online? http://epl424.org/index.php?p=1_38_SS2 Thanks horsey, there is a pop up in the middle of the screen asking me to download viddyHD, do i have to do this to see the full screen or is there another way? Just click on the small 'x's that are on the pop ups and they should clear. marky, ive cleared those, however there is one left without any x's, cannot find a way of closing it, im ok with pc's but not come across this before. Any ideas? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 18, 2013, 09:20:56 PM http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-2-live-stream-hd.php
They're easy to clear on that stream, but I can't help beyond that :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: redarmi on December 18, 2013, 09:26:25 PM anyone more tilting to watch than justin pipe? This. I haven't watched any so far this year but am coming back to UK for Xmas so thought I would get in the mood by watching tonight.......tuned into Pipe - Monk.....possibly put me off the tournament....and to think I turned over from MU - Stoke. Think I'll stay in Florida!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 18, 2013, 09:31:57 PM anyone more tilting to watch than justin pipe? This. I haven't watched any so far this year but am coming back to UK for Xmas so thought I would get in the mood by watching tonight.......tuned into Pipe - Monk.....possibly put me off the tournament....and to think I turned over from MU - Stoke. Think I'll stay in Florida!! They've had hailstones so big in stoke they had to suspend the football for ten minutes. It's peeing it down in Birmingham. I hope you, the alligators and everyone over 70 in the USA are happy in sunny Florida! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 10:03:34 PM Just a few small ones for tonight's action A Smith v S Brown, Brown most 180's, 2.6, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Under -6.5 180's, 1.83, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Monk -2.5 180's, 2, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Pipe over 112.5 checkout, 1.83, £20.00, A Lewis v D Smith, Lewis over 112.5 checkout, 1.83, £20.00, Expected more from Pipe in that one in terms of checkouts, only three opportunities on a checkout over what I needed and he missed them all! Least the other 2 bets minimised the loss. Gonna stick with the unders on the 180's so have done M Smith -3.5 180's 11/10 BV. Thinking he will finish the game quick so hopefully will not get many. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 10:36:17 PM Be interesting how Lewis performs tonight, the lower level players are really just very average. Seems to me there might be quite a big gap in skill or being able to handle pressure. Lewis performance should be a good indication.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 18, 2013, 10:38:47 PM Be interesting how Lewis performs tonight, the lower level players are really just very average. Seems to me there might be quite a big gap in skill or being able to handle pressure. Lewis performance should be a good indication. Pace of the game won't suit Lewis at all. Will probably be pretty inconsistent with the odd 11/12 darter averaging 90ish and it being more than good enough. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2013, 11:22:38 PM Just a few small ones for tonight's action A Smith v S Brown, Brown most 180's, 2.6, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Under -6.5 180's, 1.83, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Monk -2.5 180's, 2, £5.00, J Pipe v A Monk, Pipe over 112.5 checkout, 1.83, £20.00, A Lewis v D Smith, Lewis over 112.5 checkout, 1.83, £20.00, That was quick for Lewis, 126 in the 1st leg. Thanks very much. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 18, 2013, 11:23:10 PM Think this fella makes Pipe look like VDV!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 18, 2013, 11:25:41 PM Think this fella makes Pipe look like VDV! Putting those two on the same night is brutal scheduling. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 18, 2013, 11:42:28 PM Think this fella makes Pipe look like VDV! Putting those two on the same night is brutal scheduling. Haha, at least Lewis is putting on a clinic to kick it along. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 19, 2013, 08:34:15 AM was out last night so recorded it. thank god for the ff button.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 19, 2013, 11:45:19 AM Caught up.. Brown was unlucky with that 9 darter, if he could find consistency he could be one of the best.
Smith vs Hiroshima was ridic. it was like watching myself play. Dennis Smith is the most tilting darts player ever. he must be nailed on for arthritis of the wrist. Probs picked a good night to swerve. No 100+ avgs yet. :( What price would the pros give now? Evs or higher? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2013, 11:48:59 AM Missed it last night.
How did Lewis play? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2013, 11:52:03 AM Missed it last night. How did Lewis play? Considering he was playing Justin Pipe's much slower uncle, he was pretty good and I think he averaged high 90s Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 19, 2013, 11:55:32 AM Lewis very good and professional. 96 avg. 40% on doubles. it was pretty much a first gear animation.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 19, 2013, 12:39:57 PM Webster v Suljovic M Webster +107.5 checkout 1.83
Webster v Suljovic Total 180's -6.5 2 Wade vs D Webster Wade most 180's 2 Sets double Wade/Painter 3-0 5 Only one let me done last night, here a few for tonight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2013, 08:12:34 PM This is rancid, how did these guys get to this stage?
I am talking through my pockets also. I backed Webster for first set winner then with momentum and the throw I back Suljovic. Seriously feel cursed. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 19, 2013, 08:36:35 PM This is rancid, how did these guys get to this stage? I am talking through my pockets also. I backed Webster for first set winner then with momentum and the throw I back Suljovic. Seriously feel cursed. watching the greyhounds instead, much more exciting. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 19, 2013, 11:23:51 PM Lam is a Legend.
Newton was on 4 and Lam had 50 left with 3 Darts in his hand and goes takes out a Bull with his first Dart to win the set. Newtons face was brilliant while Lam walked back as if he had hit 3 single 20s Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 20, 2013, 09:17:46 AM Lam is a Legend. Newton was on 4 and Lam had 50 left with 3 Darts in his hand and goes takes out a Bull with his first Dart to win the set. Newtons face was brilliant while Lam walked back as if he had hit 3 single 20s Couldnt believe it, i was on Newton 3-0, should have seen my face after he done that. Class bit of dartage.Think more of the darts players need to step up to the plate and make the shots when they have a chance, seen to many trying the easier option and nearly losing because of it. Surely it would increase their confidence at the oche if they went for the finish the quickest way possible? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 20, 2013, 08:27:40 PM Wright close to a 100 average here
Been impressed with Laursen though very solid Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 20, 2013, 08:49:49 PM 3 sets 1 leg with 100 avg.. So close 4 times..
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2013, 08:52:18 PM Barney looks like a pyscho killer in his walk on.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 20, 2013, 08:59:48 PM sorry mili
as soon as i posted he faltered a little certainly looks a more composed player this year at least has the potential to give Phil a game of sorts Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2013, 09:05:25 PM 3 sets 1 leg with 100 avg.. So close 4 times.. What was the bet? Everyone funking for 100 averages it seems Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2013, 10:10:44 PM 3 sets 1 leg with 100 avg.. So close 4 times.. What was the bet? Everyone funking for 100 averages it seems Over 9 matches with a player averaging >100 Boyles only market that was backed by half of Blonde* *Probably more than half if it comes in ;) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2013, 10:11:28 PM Thought Barney was getting jogged then!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 20, 2013, 10:12:05 PM Lolz. 99.65 avg.. 100+ avg until last 3 darts.. Think we have run as bad as we could so far. :(
Camel, Bet is 9 x 100avg throughout world champs. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2013, 10:12:18 PM 3 sets 1 leg with 100 avg.. So close 4 times.. What was the bet? Everyone funking for 100 averages it seems Over 9 matches with a player averaging >100 Boyles only market that was backed by half of Blonde* *Probably more than half if it comes in ;) No chance now, right? Would have needed to get at least 6 in the first round I would have thought. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2013, 10:14:26 PM 3 sets 1 leg with 100 avg.. So close 4 times.. What was the bet? Everyone funking for 100 averages it seems Over 9 matches with a player averaging >100 Boyles only market that was backed by half of Blonde* *Probably more than half if it comes in ;) No chance now, right? Would have needed to get at least 6 in the first round I would have thought. Dubai probably has the numbers, but I imagine they would have liked a couple in the bag by now. Like Millidonk just said, they have run horribly in the first round matches. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 20, 2013, 10:22:34 PM Still a chance. Historically majority come in later stages. A couple would have been nice tho.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 20, 2013, 10:24:13 PM It will come down to Taylor. He has 5 matches left and if anywhere near his best will put up 5 of them.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 20, 2013, 10:28:39 PM think it was a cracking bet at the first price and a good one at all prices down
Been very very unlucky so far hopefully it changes for those were on soon Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2013, 11:36:16 PM Still a chance. Historically majority come in later stages. A couple would have been nice tho. That's a surprise, I would have guessed most of the 100 averages would have been the shorter format. What price did you all get? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 20, 2013, 11:43:05 PM Taylor getting out of this?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 20, 2013, 11:48:17 PM wtf is going on.
This game is getting me back into darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 20, 2013, 11:48:50 PM Still a chance. Historically majority come in later stages. A couple would have been nice tho. That's a surprise, I would have guessed most of the 100 averages would have been the shorter format. What price did you all get? 5/4. Its happened every year bar one I think. Million if Taylor gets KOd tho. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on December 20, 2013, 11:54:56 PM wow what a match that was.
Some poor sod supposedly had a 100k at 50 on Taylor. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2013, 11:59:10 PM wow what a match that was. Some poor sod supposedly had a 100k at 50 on Taylor. That's Betfair for Taylor 1.02 £9,935 £321,686 1.03 £21,220 £576,487 1.04 £104,256 1.05 £20,385 £176,698 1.06 £61 £44,103 1.07 £2,813 £108,927 1.08 £48 £104,993 1.09 £50,298 1.10 £4,500 £23,763 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Chompy on December 20, 2013, 11:59:51 PM Ladbrokes took a £100k bet? Yikes!
Hasn't Taylor whinged before about having to go on last? Late-night matches no good for him these days obv Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 21, 2013, 12:01:07 AM Yowsers
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on December 21, 2013, 12:02:19 AM wow what a match that was. Some poor sod supposedly had a 100k at 50 on Taylor. That's Betfair for Taylor 1.02 £9,935 £321,686 1.03 £21,220 £576,487 1.04 £104,256 1.05 £20,385 £176,698 1.06 £61 £44,103 1.07 £2,813 £108,927 1.08 £48 £104,993 1.09 £50,298 1.10 £4,500 £23,763 crikey, some sick people out there tonight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 21, 2013, 12:10:58 AM wow what a match that was. Some poor sod supposedly had a 100k at 50 on Taylor. That's Betfair for Taylor 1.02 £9,935 £321,686 1.03 £21,220 £576,487 1.04 £104,256 1.05 £20,385 £176,698 1.06 £61 £44,103 1.07 £2,813 £108,927 1.08 £48 £104,993 1.09 £50,298 1.10 £4,500 £23,763 crikey, some sick people out there tonight. Can someone explain what those numbers mean please? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 21, 2013, 12:12:38 AM wow what a match that was. Some poor sod supposedly had a 100k at 50 on Taylor. That's Betfair for Taylor 1.02 £9,935 £321,686 1.03 £21,220 £576,487 1.04 £104,256 1.05 £20,385 £176,698 1.06 £61 £44,103 1.07 £2,813 £108,927 1.08 £48 £104,993 1.09 £50,298 1.10 £4,500 £23,763 crikey, some sick people out there tonight. Can someone explain what those numbers mean please? Spooky, was just gonna ask the same thing. I assumed it was Dubai's Betty Account. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 21, 2013, 12:13:21 AM wow what a match that was. Some poor sod supposedly had a 100k at 50 on Taylor. That's Betfair for Taylor 1.02 £9,935 £321,686 1.03 £21,220 £576,487 1.04 £104,256 1.05 £20,385 £176,698 1.06 £61 £44,103 1.07 £2,813 £108,927 1.08 £48 £104,993 1.09 £50,298 1.10 £4,500 £23,763 crikey, some sick people out there tonight. Can someone explain what those numbers mean please? The bold numbers are the amounts placed on Taylor to win at the odds on the far left. £320k @ 1/50 £576k @ 1/33 £104k @ 1/25 £176k @ 1/20 etc. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 21, 2013, 12:17:22 AM £1.5 million wagered on him.
Woah. Was it like that when Federer was in his pomp? Are there any other events where that amount gets bet on such short odds? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 21, 2013, 12:21:49 AM £1.5 million wagered on him. Woah. Was it like that when Federer was in his pomp? Are there any other events where that amount gets bet on such short odds? That is just the money bet on him at 1/10 or shorter, Ant! There will have been a lot more besides that, but I only wanted to highlight the real pain :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on December 21, 2013, 12:40:22 AM Hybrechts too big at 33/1 Baldfred inmho - Betway 40/1 but meh. Got £20ew over two accounts pmsl
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 21, 2013, 12:42:14 AM £1.5 million wagered on him. Woah. Was it like that when Federer was in his pomp? Are there any other events where that amount gets bet on such short odds? That is just the money bet on him at 1/10 or shorter, Ant! There will have been a lot more besides that, but I only wanted to highlight the real pain :D Shows you how much I know. Blimey! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Doobs on December 21, 2013, 12:42:40 AM Hybrechts too big at 33/1 Baldfred inmho - Betway 40/1 but meh. Got £20ew over two accounts pmsl Crushed the price Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Doobs on December 21, 2013, 12:45:18 AM £1.5 million wagered on him. Woah. Was it like that when Federer was in his pomp? Are there any other events where that amount gets bet on such short odds? That is just the money bet on him at 1/10 or shorter, Ant! There will have been a lot more besides that, but I only wanted to highlight the real pain :D Think it is probably half that. I think it counts the bet on both sides in the figures, so a 50k bet at 1.02 counts as both a 50k bet and a 50k lay. That definitely used to happen when I was more active there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on December 21, 2013, 12:46:23 AM I think theyre a bit confuded bottom half....I think Wright is vastly underpriced as he has translated so little floor form to the stage - it is based on Q1 being so weak; and the differences in opinion made a few look ok. I have added Hamilton ew 40/1 SJ and Smith 66/1 SJ - topped up Hybrechts had a small bet at 80/1 ew and made 33/1 a bet.
Cant have Whitlock or Wright on my mind. Those three will do me Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 21, 2013, 07:13:54 AM I think theyre a bit confuded bottom half....I think Wright is vastly underpriced as he has translated so little floor form to the stage - it is based on Q1 being so weak; and the differences in opinion made a few look ok. I have added Hamilton ew 40/1 SJ and Smith 66/1 SJ - topped up Hybrechts had a small bet at 80/1 ew and made 33/1 a bet. Cant have Whitlock or Wright on my mind. Those three will do me Pretty much agree with all of that. Whitlock and Wright too short for me. I added Thornton at 33/1, Hamilton at 50/1 and couldn't resist the three figure price on Nicholson as his game looks very close to me. Obv loses next round now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Acidmouse on December 21, 2013, 07:53:27 AM Enjoyed watching that last night. @) good to see someone not bottle it against Taylor at the end of a match.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2013, 07:03:44 PM Enjoyed watching that last night. @) good to see someone not bottle it against Taylor at the end of a match. Wish Smith had asked Taylor to sign the board after the game. Would have ended a great night perfectly. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 21, 2013, 08:48:24 PM That was a pretty solid performance from Burnett.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 22, 2013, 01:38:28 AM That was a pretty solid performance from Burnett. I didn't really know him before until recently but him using radiator water to fill his pot noodle because he didn't have a kettle, is the single funniest thing I have ever heard anyone do. He may be my favourite human. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 22, 2013, 01:44:05 AM Does my nemesis Gerry Anderson have any chance, the puppet?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 22, 2013, 09:34:26 AM One for the Dart experts. Do you guys think the general standard of play is better/worse/same this year relative to previous years? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 22, 2013, 11:52:31 AM One for the Dart experts. Do you guys think the general standard of play is better/worse/same this year relative to previous years? Without looking at stats, I would say that the top level performers have not performed, yet the congestion in the guys averaging 90-98 is very competitive and there are more players playing better at this level. A good run and a close win here or there and the likes of Thornton, Newton or Wright are in the final playing one of the top performers. The Lewis v Wade match up is big and the winner of that is a big favourite for the title IMO. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 22, 2013, 01:02:05 PM One for the Dart experts. Do you guys think the general standard of play is better/worse/same this year relative to previous years? Throughout this year the standard of darts as a whole has increased dramatically imo. We were seeing an abundance of 100+ averages on the build up to the world champs but this hasn't been seen in this particular tournament. :( also like Betts said the overall standard has increased with the lower echelon rising up. Relative unknowns are consistently hitting 90+ averages and the top boys are not bringing their A game. Whilst it has hurt my wallet personally it has made games more closer / harder to predict and more exciting to watch. imo obv. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 22, 2013, 01:18:15 PM One for the Dart experts. Do you guys think the general standard of play is better/worse/same this year relative to previous years? Throughout this year the standard of darts as a whole has increased dramatically imo. We were seeing an abundance of 100+ averages on the build up to the world champs but this hasn't been seen in this particular tournament. :( also like Betts said the overall standard has increased with the lower echelon rising up. Relative unknowns are consistently hitting 90+ averages and the top boys are not bringing their A game. Whilst it has hurt my wallet personally it has made games more closer / harder to predict and more exciting to watch. imo obv. Thanks Milli, & also Craig. I'm sure you are right, but I'm just trying to see how we can actually establish that. I see it oft-repeated as a fact, but how do we know? It's not a personal thing, but I have an inbuilt default setting in my mind when I see stuff like that being stated, I start off by saying "but how do we know that is so?" I do it with every single thing I see in print, everywhere. Is that really true? We see it in poker a lot, kids see stuff on 2+2 & immediately state it as a fact. No big deal, I'm just curious. I thought some of the early rounds were pretty poor, to be honest, but I'm not a Darts expert. Incidentally, "if the top boys are not bringing their A-game", surely that proves the point? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 22, 2013, 01:20:34 PM Interesting to see Van Gerwen is playing last again tonight, maybe the producers like seeing him bowl around shitfaced...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 22, 2013, 01:37:26 PM The pack are defo getting closer, I would put that down the Prize Money on offer meaning Players are taking it more serious an practising more.
Also with more Tournaments on Tv they are getting used to playing on the Big stage in front of Cameras. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 22, 2013, 01:38:39 PM That was a pretty solid performance from Burnett. I didn't really know him before until recently but him using radiator water to fill his pot noodle because he didn't have a kettle, is the single funniest thing I have ever heard anyone do. He may be my favourite human. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 22, 2013, 01:44:15 PM One for the Dart experts. Do you guys think the general standard of play is better/worse/same this year relative to previous years? Throughout this year the standard of darts as a whole has increased dramatically imo. We were seeing an abundance of 100+ averages on the build up to the world champs but this hasn't been seen in this particular tournament. :( also like Betts said the overall standard has increased with the lower echelon rising up. Relative unknowns are consistently hitting 90+ averages and the top boys are not bringing their A game. Whilst it has hurt my wallet personally it has made games more closer / harder to predict and more exciting to watch. imo obv. Thanks Milli, & also Craig. I'm sure you are right, but I'm just trying to see how we can actually establish that. I see it oft-repeated as a fact, but how do we know? It's not a personal thing, but I have an inbuilt default setting in my mind when I see stuff like that being stated, I start off by saying "but how do we know that is so?" I do it with every single thing I see in print, everywhere. Is that really true? We see it in poker a lot, kids see stuff on 2+2 & immediately state it as a fact. No big deal, I'm just curious. I thought some of the early rounds were pretty poor, to be honest, but I'm not a Darts expert. Incidentally, "if the top boys are not bringing their A-game", surely that proves the point? Well I've been watching darts for 30 odd years and I think the standard now is way way higher than ever before. I remember when Paul Lim got the first televised 9 darter and what a huge deal it was. Now there has been 2 in this tournament and about 4 near misses. Although I read somewhere the treble 20 bed is a bit bigger now than it was in the heyday of Jocky, Lowie and the rest. So that might be part of the of the improvement. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 22, 2013, 01:47:48 PM That was a pretty solid performance from Burnett. I didn't really know him before until recently but him using radiator water to fill his pot noodle because he didn't have a kettle, is the single funniest thing I have ever heard anyone do. He may be my favourite human. I remember him winning that title back in the 90s, because my old man had just been on a course with a couple of his pals, and they told him to look out for him in the upcoming championships. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 22, 2013, 01:56:43 PM One for the Dart experts. Do you guys think the general standard of play is better/worse/same this year relative to previous years? Throughout this year the standard of darts as a whole has increased dramatically imo. We were seeing an abundance of 100+ averages on the build up to the world champs but this hasn't been seen in this particular tournament. :( also like Betts said the overall standard has increased with the lower echelon rising up. Relative unknowns are consistently hitting 90+ averages and the top boys are not bringing their A game. Whilst it has hurt my wallet personally it has made games more closer / harder to predict and more exciting to watch. imo obv. Thanks Milli, & also Craig. I'm sure you are right, but I'm just trying to see how we can actually establish that. I see it oft-repeated as a fact, but how do we know? It's not a personal thing, but I have an inbuilt default setting in my mind when I see stuff like that being stated, I start off by saying "but how do we know that is so?" I do it with every single thing I see in print, everywhere. Is that really true? We see it in poker a lot, kids see stuff on 2+2 & immediately state it as a fact. No big deal, I'm just curious. I thought some of the early rounds were pretty poor, to be honest, but I'm not a Darts expert. Incidentally, "if the top boys are not bringing their A-game", surely that proves the point? Completely right. You can't believe everything you read and you should always ask for opinions to be quantified. The first thing I ever remember seeing on TV was darts. I have watched darts for almost 30 years both on tv and in pubs, clubs etc. My grandad, dad and one of my uncles were darts mad. Any excuse for pics. :) I believe this was my 6th bday party: (http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/Milligan84/bdayparty_zpse8d27bee.jpeg) Me a bit older. Darts mag world which I remember reading every issue I could ever get my hands on as a kid.. (http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/Milligan84/dartsworldmag_zpsc0c0887c.jpeg) Sighs.. just realised camel posted. but meh.. x2 9 darters in first round. One of which was from a qualifier. x2 9 dart where they failed with the 9th dart!! I don't have the time right now but I am sure if I went back through all comps and looked at the averages of players it would be a steady incline with this year being the peak. At the Grand Slam of Darts, there were 18 100+ averages, at the masters there were 7 x 100+ averages from 15 matches. Players on the outside, not talking about the fringe of the top 32, i mean way down the line are not only capable now, but are consistently achieving sick averages. I remember the odds being 30/1 for a 9 darter on tele once. I think at the start of the world champs it was evens.. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 22, 2013, 02:00:07 PM I am the only Milligan who is terrible at darts. Even my missus is better than me. She was Durham University Ladies Singles champ. So sick. Although I did throw x2 140s on Thursday. Now I don't have a job I can finally put in the hours. Will be on the stage at the Ally Pally come Xmas 2015. legooooooo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 22, 2013, 03:59:08 PM Had a look at round 1 stats for the PDC worlds for the last 3 years. (struggled with inserting a table!)
2012 2013 2014 avgs 70 - 2 0 0 70-79.99 1 5 4 80-84.99 9 13 12 85-89.99 22 20 21 90-91.99 8 6 9 92.93.99 5 7 2 94-95.99 8 7 4 96-97.99 2 2 8 98-99.99 6 3 4 100 + 1 1 0 On first look there is nothing to pull from this and the standard is pretty consistent throughout the 3 years. Last years quarter finals onwards show a big spike in the previous years scoring, although the match ups are key and the better players remained in the tournament. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 22, 2013, 04:05:00 PM 3 years isn't much. Must be a marked spike when comparing the stats of 2008, 2003, 1998 and 1993.
More people are used to playing on TV and that is massive for the quality of darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on December 22, 2013, 04:09:22 PM 3 years isn't much. Must be a marked spike when comparing the stats of 2008, 2003, 1998 and 1993. More people are used to playing on TV and that is massive for the quality of darts. I agree, although I thought Teeks was querying this year in comparison to recent years. The Camel was spot on, over time there will be a better standard. Just going to check back and see when records start on my research site. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 22, 2013, 05:03:30 PM The Final is on Bbc 5 live.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 22, 2013, 05:38:21 PM Had a look at round 1 stats for the PDC worlds for the last 3 years. (struggled with inserting a table!) 2012 2013 2014 avgs 70 - 2 0 0 70-79.99 1 5 4 80-84.99 9 13 12 85-89.99 22 20 21 90-91.99 8 6 9 92.93.99 5 7 2 94-95.99 8 7 4 96-97.99 2 2 8 98-99.99 6 3 4 100 + 1 1 0 On first look there is nothing to pull from this and the standard is pretty consistent throughout the 3 years. Last years quarter finals onwards show a big spike in the previous years scoring, although the match ups are key and the better players remained in the tournament. Thanks Craig. Small sample size, but not conclusive either way, I'd say. The statement "standards have improved since last year" strikes me as optimistic, though, at first glance. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 22, 2013, 06:04:26 PM from being a fairly casual watcher the past 5 or so years i would say the mid players have improved a fair bit
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 22, 2013, 11:03:59 PM Only caught the end of the 2nd set, but have they had words or something?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on December 22, 2013, 11:21:59 PM Only caught the end of the 2nd set, but have they had words or something? McDine did a weird impression of MVG when he won the second set, was a bit strange. Guess you've seen it now. Comical. MVG pulls some great faces when he throws Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 22, 2013, 11:24:15 PM Haha, seen it now :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 23, 2013, 10:34:02 PM That Evans is like Van Gerwen on fastforward!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 24, 2013, 06:36:44 AM Very nice from Lewis last night, gone joint or outright fav with most bookies which I think is right. My darts book is looking quite healthy
Lewis @ 13/2 and 6-1 to win outright Lewis @ 5/2 top 2 Thornton @ 66-1 RVB @ 18-1 Wade@ 26 ( how can you not have a drunk with 9 lives) Burnett @ 225-1 Burnett to win q2 @ 25-1 Might take the 12.5 available on Whitlock and then hope MVG doesn't turn up in later rounds, any thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 27, 2013, 02:00:23 PM Had a tickle on Peterson e/w. Throwing world class darts imo. 500/1. 1 time..
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 27, 2013, 02:06:38 PM gowan Devon, what a boss!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Micko on December 27, 2013, 05:48:05 PM Any thoughts on the Whitlock v Painter match?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 27, 2013, 09:30:29 PM Pretty good game this one, loving snakebite this tournament.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2013, 09:31:52 PM Ridic standard here. 106 ave from Snakebite and was close to going 3-1 down.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2013, 09:32:21 PM Here's hoping the winner comes from this match ;whistle;
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 27, 2013, 09:41:11 PM that set was immense
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2013, 09:42:48 PM It's like Lewis v Taylor with silly haircuts ;D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 27, 2013, 09:44:20 PM Superb match. That leg was pretty poor mind.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 27, 2013, 09:45:15 PM WTF happened there?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 27, 2013, 09:45:45 PM Have you ever seen one dart knock two out before?
That was pretty bloody unlucky Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 27, 2013, 09:58:57 PM Have been backing Wright all year in minor events at silly prices
for some reason had nothing on for this Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2013, 10:01:10 PM I guess that's why he changed his darts!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2013, 10:08:12 PM Who is Rod trying to convince 'We could have saved the best for last'
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 27, 2013, 10:08:40 PM Have been backing Wright all year in minor events at silly prices THIS x2for some reason had nothing on for this :( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 27, 2013, 10:09:47 PM Rod likes to cover all angles
"I like the fav but the other player is a spot of value" How will Wright Newton be priced up lads? I am thinking any odds against Wright is a bet but i am no darts compiler Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 27, 2013, 10:13:10 PM Rod likes to cover all angles Very few Players I wouldn't have Wright as the Jolly and Wes isn't one of them."I like the fav but the other player is a spot of value" How will Wright Newton be priced up lads? I am thinking any odds against Wright is a bet but i am no darts compiler 4/6 Wright maybe lower Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 27, 2013, 10:15:19 PM Rod likes to cover all angles "I like the fav but the other player is a spot of value" How will Wright Newton be priced up lads? I am thinking any odds against Wright is a bet but i am no darts compiler No chance Wright is priced up odds against in that match although Wes played well today. I imagine it'll be something like 4/6 Wright, 5/4ish Wes Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 27, 2013, 10:17:24 PM boyles gone up 1-2 wright
yikes Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 27, 2013, 10:17:52 PM boyles gone up 1-2 wright yikes In the words of tikay... ! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 27, 2013, 10:29:13 PM BWIN had 7/10 but that's been taken and they are now 6/11
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 27, 2013, 10:31:07 PM 4/11 v 11/8 on BF.
I think I'd prefer to be on Wes at the prices. I don't particularly like him as a player but I don't have Snakebite as that good. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 27, 2013, 10:34:33 PM Have been backing Wright all year in minor events at silly prices THIS x2for some reason had nothing on for this :( I backed Newton with the same story! He's in the "no more money" pot with Ricky Fowler now. Sigh... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2013, 10:54:27 PM I think Snowy, or Bazza put him up for this comp a while back?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2013, 11:04:49 PM His consistency tonight was Taylor-esque. He had very few visits where he didn't hit at least one treble. Smith pulled some rabbits out of the hat at key times but in the end the relentlessness of Wright wore him down. Newton won't be able to live with that as he doesn't have an extra gear like Smith has. 8/15 looks fair to me.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 27, 2013, 11:07:53 PM How close is Pipe to being an auto-pick for the Premier League?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2013, 11:27:11 PM How close is Pipe to being an auto-pick for the Premier League? Nowhere near at present. To be auto pick he would probably have to win a TV major and make it to the top 5 or 6 in te rankings. Wright has probably played his way into it and will definitely have if he beats Newton. Great scrapping here from Webster. Good to see him back in some sort of form. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 28, 2013, 12:02:46 PM This HtH is slightly worrying for Lewis backers, King 16-4 Lewis
King won the last 4 and not since Sept 09 has Lewis beat him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 01:53:53 PM "That pirate's teeth are better than these darts" made me chuckle. wp Part.
Dissapointing opener. Anderson and Peterson are my only hopes to end the year on a high, that or every player remaining scores a 100+ avg. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 28, 2013, 02:55:11 PM wade 99.49 average needing one more leg
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 28, 2013, 02:57:38 PM 99.92 wade
quite unreal how badly the over 100 backers have run Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 02:58:11 PM 99.92... we have run utterly ridiculous in this comp.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 03:06:14 PM 1 in each quarter, 1 in each semi and 1 in the final. too much to ask?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 28, 2013, 03:12:00 PM 1 in each quarter, 1 in each semi and 1 in the final. too much to ask? A bit like Ahrt Aspades v Ks Kd and the board coming Kh Kc Qh Jh Th But really hope it gets there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 03:13:32 PM meh, I'm on the wrong hand of that setup at least twice a day.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 28, 2013, 03:15:33 PM meh, I'm on the wrong hand of that setup at least twice a day. As long as it's all in pre, you can slam the table and shout "Justice!" Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 03:30:27 PM My last horse. Scottish for the afternoon. Come on Ando!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 03:53:04 PM "If MVG doesn't do something about this he might be able to make the same flight as Van Barneveled". Part is killing it today.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 28, 2013, 04:02:07 PM "If MVG doesn't do something about this he might be able to make the same flight as Van Barneveled". Part is killing it today. Loved that Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 04:29:14 PM siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh, how many chances do you want Ando? Doesn't have the minerals to close these big games out.
Another 100+ avg in the bag, glimmer of hope. close to bagging 2 there. :( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2013, 04:34:02 PM I think this is Lewis' to lose...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on December 28, 2013, 04:37:04 PM siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh, how many chances do you want Ando? Doesn't have the minerals to close these big games out. Another 100+ avg in the bag, glimmer of hope. close to bagging 2 there. :( Many we on total? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 04:53:52 PM siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh, how many chances do you want Ando? Doesn't have the minerals to close these big games out. Another 100+ avg in the bag, glimmer of hope. close to bagging 2 there. :( Many we on total? 1/3 of the way there. :/ Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2013, 05:26:24 PM Think people will start to kick on now, you've got some real solid boys left in and hopefully Wright will chip in straight off the bat :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2013, 08:42:02 PM Please don't let the Thunderbird win :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 28, 2013, 09:24:59 PM Newton won't go away. Absolutely enthralling
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 28, 2013, 09:30:38 PM Do you think Peter Wright dyes his hair black for funerals?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 28, 2013, 09:33:21 PM The Crowd trying their best to waste this.
Muppets!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 28, 2013, 09:35:28 PM Sick game, sick finish. Got to feel for Wes tho. runs pretty horrid.
Come on the snakebite. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 28, 2013, 09:37:11 PM The Crowd trying their best to waste this. Muppets!! 4 all and they're cheering for Michael van Gerwen. On the other hand, if it wasn't for those donuts, we'd be back at Frimley Green with the "purists", not in front of thousands, playing for millions. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2013, 11:34:24 PM Some game this!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: rinswun on December 29, 2013, 12:01:43 AM Superb darts all evening. Fair play to White for sticking in there and almost snatching it.
My only bugbear is that bloody Toure chant. Unless you are at a Man City or a Liverpool game, I cant understand why you'd do it. Intensely irritating. Worse thing is, it seems to be seeping out into the general populus. I was at Bognor vs Lewes on Boxing Day (as you do), and some imbeciles were doing the bloody chant right next to me. Horrendous. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 29, 2013, 12:31:19 AM Superb darts all evening. Fair play to White for sticking in there and almost snatching it. Espeacially because most People Singing it will support rival Clubs, weird.My only bugbear is that bloody Toure chant. Unless you are at a Man City or a Liverpool game, I cant understand why you'd do it. Intensely irritating. Worse thing is, it seems to be seeping out into the general populus. I was at Bognor vs Lewes on Boxing Day (as you do), and some imbeciles were doing the bloody chant right next to me. Horrendous. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: kp24 on December 29, 2013, 02:32:22 AM Superb darts all evening. Fair play to White for sticking in there and almost snatching it. Espeacially because most People Singing it will support rival Clubs, weird.My only bugbear is that bloody Toure chant. Unless you are at a Man City or a Liverpool game, I cant understand why you'd do it. Intensely irritating. Worse thing is, it seems to be seeping out into the general populus. I was at Bognor vs Lewes on Boxing Day (as you do), and some imbeciles were doing the bloody chant right next to me. Horrendous. Glad I'm not the only one to find this odd peter wright been the best player in the tournament so far even thought he beat my outside bet Michael smith who I backed at the start at 959/1 on betfair still the best game of the tournament despite some of the good games today Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 29, 2013, 07:44:42 PM Webster needs to slow MvG down to have a chance. Hitting the lipstick would also help
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 29, 2013, 07:45:39 PM Pretty awful aiming for fat 18 and hitting the double
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 29, 2013, 09:11:41 PM Wade has been pretty terrible this year but seems to be getting there, I don't normally buy into the arguement that getting results when playing bad is the mark of a champion buttheir is something to be said for his tenacity. With that in mind I see this going the distance with that being the case I can't see how Lewis doesn't smash his 180 line of 11.5 @ 11/10 on betfair. I put up two darts bets on TFT last night which both done a win. My profit from that plus a little bit on top is on here. Lets do a big win.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2013, 09:27:20 PM Wade has been pretty terrible this year but seems to be getting there, I don't normally buy into the arguement that getting results when playing bad is the mark of a champion buttheir is something to be said for his tenacity. With that in mind I see this going the distance with that being the case I can't see how Lewis doesn't smash his 180 line of 11.5 @ 11/10 on betfair. I put up two darts bets on TFT last night which both done a win. My profit from that plus a little bit on top is on here. Lets do a big win. I never bet these markets, but you got it spot on last night with Newton. Good luck with this one! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 29, 2013, 10:18:04 PM Taxi for Wade back to the LB!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 29, 2013, 10:37:29 PM Appreciate it is hardly a new point but
The crowd Tonight i have heard the vincent van der vooort chant five or six times (Why) we pay your benefits to many times to remember and the usual boring as anything tables v stands "banter" Have noticed the commentators never mention the crowd even when it is blatantly obvious the players are affected (According to a darts forum there were some horrific comments to Wade the other night and also to Big John Henderson) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on December 29, 2013, 10:43:49 PM Without the crowd who have been growing year on year due to the partisan atmosphere would the players be able to win the amounts they do compared to 20 years ago in front of a quiet crowd?
Yes darts is a skill game but its also a pub game and is turning to a spectator sport i agree that van der voort chants are stupid when hes not playing but this and the other stuff is paying the players wages. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 29, 2013, 10:44:59 PM very fair point
What is the point of the announcer now? Have heard them call for quiet probably three times all tournament Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2013, 10:47:10 PM Chill out Ebaneezer, it will all be over soon!
Having only been to PDC once at Ally Pally, I loved the fun that came out of the "wheres your table gone" malarky Maybe I'm just common and of limited intelligence too tho!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2013, 10:50:07 PM They love a bit of 'yaya ya ya yaya ya ya yaya ya ya yaya toure', but I don't have a clue why they do that, or the VDV one when he isn't playing.
Didn't hear the benefits one, who was that aimed at? I guess the players live with it, because they're getting paid proper dough now, and they don't want to be back earning bowl wages. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 29, 2013, 10:51:37 PM tables at the stands Marky
Cant understand the mentality like tonight a semi final were a fair proportion of the crow appeared to not watch one dart thrown might as well go to your local? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 29, 2013, 11:18:13 PM The vdv one seems to have relevance because they change the name. Heard a Gary Anderson version the other night.
I've said before I went to the premier league stage at the NIA a couple of years ago and hated it. People were being sick on the way in, barely being able to see any actual darts, dodging pints being spilt all over the place... The only things most people were there for were getting paralytic and standing up to do the Chase the Sun dance for each ad break. I've also watched it in Vegas in front of about 50 people, where Taylor beat Scholten to what was essentially polite applause. Somewhere inbetween would do nicely. The sport is definitely better IMO for the Hearn PDC era, but I think there will be changes made in the coming years with the crowd interaction. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 07:59:52 PM Wright looks here to stay to me
Very solid all tourney Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2013, 08:44:32 PM Wright looks here to stay to me Very solid all tourney Relentless 15 dart legs. Finishing tonight has been different class as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 09:00:27 PM (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcwbbIzIMAAcfVr.jpg)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2013, 09:07:43 PM (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcwbbIzIMAAcfVr.jpg) is that wright? unbeliveable!! Playing like this he will win the whole thing, Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2013, 09:10:37 PM That finish tho. what a boss. so much bottle. How did I wait so late to get on? 9/1 tho.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2013, 09:26:43 PM massively won me over. Nice to see players get emotional. Come on Wright.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 09:29:01 PM now feeling very sick i gave up my wright direct debit before this tourney
hope he wins though seems a genuine guy Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Chompy on December 30, 2013, 09:31:02 PM Loving the Wright.
John Part thinks he should be favourite to win the whole thing. Happy to lay evens here. bwin have stuck Michael Smith up at 66/1 for next year's. Worth taking or will someone go 100 we think? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2013, 09:33:01 PM Go on Snakey!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2013, 09:35:42 PM Hope this lives upto it's potential.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2013, 09:36:42 PM Hope this lives upto it's potential. Meh... Hope they both play shit, and whoever wins plays shit in the final :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2013, 09:40:29 PM Hope this lives upto it's potential. Meh... Hope they both play shit, and whoever wins plays shit in the final :D Best of luck with that :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2013, 09:44:49 PM zzzzzz. could that set take any longer?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2013, 09:47:29 PM I need Lewis to win to lock up on profit on the whole comp, bet he lets me down, just got a feeling unless MVG blows up he will get the better of Lewis. Hope im wrong.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2013, 09:50:38 PM Was that 5:26, that set? Very close to Ronnie's 147 time of 5:20! That's just demonstrating how good Ronnie is.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: rinswun on December 30, 2013, 09:51:03 PM Wright has been superb all tournament. Would love him to cause an upset in the final.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 09:55:28 PM wow this is good
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on December 30, 2013, 09:55:44 PM Is there zero chance of the 100 averages winning
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2013, 09:56:34 PM DAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRTTTTTTSSSSSS!!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2013, 09:58:09 PM Is there zero chance of the 100 averages winning Bet is dead. Unfortunately it was my joint second biggest bet of the year as well. Been very unlucky. think there were 5 x 99.xx avgs and god knows how many 98 avgs. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2013, 09:59:35 PM Is there zero chance of the 100 averages winning Bet is dead. Unfortunately it was my joint second biggest bet of the year as well. Been very unlucky. think there were 5 x 99.xx avgs and god knows how many 98 avgs. When people are pinging in 99.52, you know you're up that creek... Such a sick spot, and so unlucky that everything conspired against you. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: kp24 on December 30, 2013, 10:01:03 PM Brilliant game so far wright been the best player so far,hope someone goes to 100/1 plus on Michael smith as I'd have a go in another 12 months he will be so much better
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2013, 10:01:27 PM 99.92 hurt the most. These two will probs both get 100+ for rubs as well.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:13:41 PM yes was the worst as only stage in that game wade fell below was second last leg when he missed a load of small doubles
that checkout was to quick for the cameras Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2013, 10:14:05 PM oh my word. MVG is just ridic. Guess he could always hurt his throwing hand before the final.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: kp24 on December 30, 2013, 10:15:21 PM Mvg finishing been really good today and yesterday usually let's him down
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2013, 10:21:54 PM oh my word. MVG is just ridic. Guess he could always hurt his throwing hand before the final. Hopefully he goes on the piss all day before the final :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:22:02 PM mardle has mentioned the odds nearly every leg
got a feeling he has a fair whack on lewis Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2013, 10:26:19 PM mardle has mentioned the odds nearly every leg got a feeling he has a fair whack on lewis "He's not 1/20 now!" He was, actually :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:28:53 PM pretty sure mvg has not missed the treble 18 cover once
brilliant Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2013, 10:33:07 PM pretty sure mvg has not missed the treble 18 cover once brilliant Really has been just the doubles. Lee Westwood syndrome tonight. Anyone else fancy Wright at Burlington Bertie? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:35:21 PM what price 6-0 pre match?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2013, 10:37:23 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:38:30 PM dont worry all nearly time for some more classics like this
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q49xYlgoeCo Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:40:24 PM think Wright saying Mvg was not good enough a while back might still be in Mvgs head?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2013, 10:42:32 PM think Wright saying Mvg was not good enough a while back might still be in Mvgs head? If I were MvG, I'd get a mongoose painted on the side of my head #SecondLevelDartsPsychology Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Chompy on December 30, 2013, 10:43:56 PM mardle has mentioned the odds nearly every leg got a feeling he has a fair whack on lewis Knocked me out of a GUKPT once, took an age to call with QQ. Ridic. Great commentator though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:44:20 PM didnt take Sky long to dig out the clip
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: rinswun on December 30, 2013, 10:44:30 PM I know that video got posted in jest but i'm friends with a guy who works for the BDO and they have increased the treble beds by 2mm this year which is pretty huge (now matches the PDC bedsize). He reckons it'll like add around 4 or 5 to each players average. I would suggest blindly backing the overs in the first round before the books catch on.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2013, 10:45:28 PM think Wright saying Mvg was not good enough a while back might still be in Mvgs head? I think the only thing in MVG's head at the moment is getting another drink down his gregory! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:46:25 PM I know that video got posted in jest but i'm friends with a guy who works for the BDO and they have increased the treble beds by 2mm this year which is pretty huge (now matches the PDC bedsize). He reckons it'll like add around 4 or 5 to each players average. I would suggest blindly backing the overs in the first round before the books catch on. Aslong as Fleet isnt playing :) :) Thanks for info though useful Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2013, 10:47:49 PM mardle has mentioned the odds nearly every leg got a feeling he has a fair whack on lewis Knocked me out of a GUKPT once, took an age to call with QQ. Ridic. Great commentator though. Is that the one he finalled? Played a great cash session with him at Flamingo in 2008. Right up there with the most fun I've had at a table. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Chompy on December 30, 2013, 10:48:24 PM Hahahahaha, Youtube could have been created for that Wolfy/Fleety epic.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 30, 2013, 10:49:07 PM Hahahahaha, Youtube could have been created for that Wolfy/Fleety epic. FIVE Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: rinswun on December 30, 2013, 10:51:31 PM I know that video got posted in jest but i'm friends with a guy who works for the BDO and they have increased the treble beds by 2mm this year which is pretty huge (now matches the PDC bedsize). He reckons it'll like add around 4 or 5 to each players average. I would suggest blindly backing the overs in the first round before the books catch on. Aslong as Fleet isnt playing :) :) Thanks for info though useful no worries, forgot to add that this is the first tournament they have ever done it for. decision was made on christmas eve so, with christmas and the pdc tournament going on, i doubt it will have been particularly picked up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on December 30, 2013, 10:52:49 PM I thought the treble was the same size but the pdc unicorn wire was thinner?
Will be interesting to see. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2013, 10:57:48 PM First time in PDC history that neither finalist is representing England
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on December 31, 2013, 12:20:36 AM I know that video got posted in jest but i'm friends with a guy who works for the BDO and they have increased the treble beds by 2mm this year which is pretty huge (now matches the PDC bedsize). He reckons it'll like add around 4 or 5 to each players average. I would suggest blindly backing the overs in the first round before the books catch on. Not a chance the bookies will price up averages for the First Round of the BDO plus this Video suggest the beds are the same Size.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDGRfy_XnA&feature=youtu.be Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: rinswun on December 31, 2013, 06:11:48 PM Well I can only pass on what I've been told and the fella that told me has no reason to lie to me about it. Worth keeping an eye on at the very least.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2014, 08:17:32 PM Lets Play Darts!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 01, 2014, 08:22:45 PM Come on Wright. Davey needs a new PC. Just hope it isn't a white wash by MVG if Wright can't do the business.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 01, 2014, 08:35:14 PM When I first saw him, I thought Wright was in a onesie. That would have been something!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2014, 08:43:41 PM Chucked a pony on a 9 darter with Patrick for a whole match sweat.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 01, 2014, 08:54:37 PM Sighs. Occasion has got to him.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 01, 2014, 08:56:51 PM Sighs. Occasion has got to him. Bit harsh. Averaging 100. Only missed a few doubles. Next set on throw. Wins it and it's game on. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on January 01, 2014, 09:09:19 PM 9 legs on the spin.
Will it end Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on January 01, 2014, 09:11:19 PM it will
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 01, 2014, 09:12:14 PM Sighs. Occasion has got to him. Bit harsh. Averaging 100. Only missed a few doubles. Next set on throw. Wins it and it's game on. Nah, it's obvious. Watched every dart he has thrown this comp. Occasion has got to him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 01, 2014, 09:27:03 PM Throwing like he means it again. Come on snakebite.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 01, 2014, 09:42:43 PM Throwing like he means it again. Come on snakebite. Nice of him to turn up, c'mon snakebite, at least get the handicap of +3.5! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 01, 2014, 09:47:13 PM WHAT A BOSS
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: edgascoigne on January 01, 2014, 09:48:16 PM It's kicking off!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 01, 2014, 09:52:14 PM Just lost his chance
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 01, 2014, 09:55:24 PM 4-3 would have made this incredible. Wounded, surely can't come back from here?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on January 01, 2014, 10:12:03 PM Is the brunette Mrs v G? Who is the blonde they
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on January 01, 2014, 10:27:00 PM Plenty of darts left in this one folks!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on January 01, 2014, 10:27:10 PM Cracking comeback on the cards!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 01, 2014, 10:29:30 PM Come on wrighty, at least he has beat the handicap, now win the lot! Come on the bite!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 01, 2014, 10:44:45 PM Wright lost that, had a shot in 2 different sets that would have made this result different. Well done MVG.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2014, 10:50:49 PM Not the result my pocket wanted, but I'm just glad that he didn't get annihilated, as it appeared he might.
<3 old Snakenut Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on January 01, 2014, 10:52:37 PM Snakebite 20/1 for next year?!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2014, 11:06:02 PM Gutted there wasn't a 9 darter tonight... Thought we were done at 4-0, but then it came alive again!
Glad Wade has been jogged from the PL! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 01, 2014, 11:09:36 PM Phil Taylor Michael van Gerwen Simon Whitlock Adrian Lewis Raymond van Barneveld Gary Anderson Wes Newton Dave Chisnall Peter Wright Robert Thornton Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: ForthThistle on January 01, 2014, 11:30:29 PM What does Dave Chisnall Bring?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 01, 2014, 11:31:09 PM What does Dave Chisnall Bring? A lot more than Wes Newton Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on January 01, 2014, 11:37:27 PM Exactly bazza - just been debating it n Facebook....Newton obv shagging Hearns daughter or something. Joke decision.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on January 01, 2014, 11:38:24 PM What does Dave Chisnall Bring? Charisma, intelligence, good looks, a lovely family and 180sWhy do you ask? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 01, 2014, 11:39:20 PM Kim shoulda been in.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 02, 2014, 12:08:23 AM Kim shoulda been in. Could definitely have lived with that. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 02, 2014, 08:15:26 AM Has anybody got anything for the Bdo, don't really know much about them but I'm probably looking to lay the favourite. Although I have always liked the look of Fitton not really sure why.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 02, 2014, 08:23:07 AM Has anybody got anything for the Bdo, don't really know much about them but I'm probably looking to lay the favourite. Although I have always liked the look of Fitton not really sure why. I suspect you like him for the same reason I do: the walk on to One Step Beyond. Think I heard somewhere he was a coach now for a couple of the younger players. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 02, 2014, 08:30:56 AM Phil Taylor
Michael van Gerwen Simon Whitlock Adrian Lewis Raymond van Barneveld Gary Anderson Wes Newton Dave Chisnall Peter Wright Robert Thornton Meh, Bin Wes and Thornton. Would have liked to see Kim and Bully Boy. Not a fan of Whitlock personally but nothing you can do if he is in automatically. Nice get out on Wade; this year we believe that he would benefit from a break from the pressures and travel of competing in the tournament to continue his treatment for his well-documented health issues Love Chizzy tho. Hope this is the end of Taylor's reign. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: kp24 on January 02, 2014, 01:21:57 PM Phil Taylor Michael van Gerwen Simon Whitlock Adrian Lewis Raymond van Barneveld Gary Anderson Wes Newton Dave Chisnall Peter Wright Robert Thornton Meh, Bin Wes and Thornton. Would have liked to see Kim and Bully Boy. Not a fan of Whitlock personally but nothing you can do if he is in automatically. Nice get out on Wade; this year we believe that he would benefit from a break from the pressures and travel of competing in the tournament to continue his treatment for his well-documented health issues Love Chizzy tho. Hope this is the end of Taylor's reign. Agree with camel and few others would loved to have seen Kim play in it I think bad worlds plus snakebite doing welll pushed him out Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: kp24 on January 02, 2014, 01:24:38 PM Has anybody got anything for the Bdo, don't really know much about them but I'm probably looking to lay the favourite. Although I have always liked the look of Fitton not really sure why. Haven't had a proper myself yet but Stephen bunting will be fav he's Ben the best player on bdo circuit last two years I'd imagine there will be lot of money on Scott waites too class act Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 02, 2014, 01:46:44 PM Phil Taylor Michael van Gerwen Simon Whitlock Adrian Lewis Raymond van Barneveld Gary Anderson Wes Newton Dave Chisnall Peter Wright Robert Thornton Meh, Bin Wes and Thornton. Would have liked to see Kim and Bully Boy. Not a fan of Whitlock personally but nothing you can do if he is in automatically. Nice get out on Wade; this year we believe that he would benefit from a break from the pressures and travel of competing in the tournament to continue his treatment for his well-documented health issues Love Chizzy tho. Hope this is the end of Taylor's reign. Agree with camel and few others would loved to have seen Kim play in it I think bad worlds plus snakebite doing welll pushed him out I'm a fan of Huybrechts but he only has himself to blame for not getting in as he has massively underachieved this year. He went out in the first round of every TV tournament with the exception of the GSOD (QF), Worlds (last 32), UK Open (last 32). That said playing week in week out on TV would probably help him a lot. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 02, 2014, 04:15:27 PM They've pretty much got the line up right if the reason given for Wade not being picked is true, even so he's never been popular with the fans and doesn't score heavily enough for Sky to pick as a wildcard.
The love for Kim is strange, he just doesn't deserve to be in it yet, give it a couple of years and he'll be in there. Anderson is only there due to his heavy scoring and signs that he's on the way back but is still lucky to make it. Someone itt wanted Thornton out which is harsh as he acquitted himself well in this years PLD and is another heavy scorer. Newton is just dull and could easily have been left out for Hamilton who is unlucky to miss out. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on January 02, 2014, 05:36:00 PM http://www.jameswade.co.uk/index.php/statement-from-james-wade-regarding-the-2014-premier-league-darts/
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Acidmouse on January 02, 2014, 05:43:55 PM Very lame if they using his illness as an excuse not to have let him in this year. I like Wade, but sometimes you never know what you will get from him. I guess the medication he has to take daily keeps him on a even keel and his emotions very much level.
My wife only knows 2 players and hes one of them. Hope he comes back stronger. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 02, 2014, 07:30:39 PM I would have had Wade in, personally not a fan of Whitlock the man just annoys me. Also Wes wouldn't have made my cut I would have given it to Smith or perhaps Nicholson.
I also don't get people not wanting the Thorn in he is defo one of the more consistent players and he's a big scorer and capable of giving anyone a game on his day. RVB is a bit of a strange one, I know the fans love him but he's been pretty poor for a few years now I am not sure why Sky wanted him in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 02, 2014, 08:47:58 PM Whitlock is an automatic pick as he's in the top 4 in the rankings. Barney's been rubbish for ages but is still a draw for punters, the backing that he gets (in Scotland in particular) is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 02, 2014, 11:52:58 PM Whitlock is an automatic pick as he's in the top 4 in the rankings. Barney's been rubbish for ages but is still a draw for punters, the backing that he gets (in Scotland in particular) is unbelievable. Yeah I know Whitlock is an automatic pick, I just dont like him. I think he is overhyped. I am sure the Scottish punters would also support other players that took RVB's place. Would have been good if Sky put out there possibles to a public vote and see who got in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 03, 2014, 12:17:53 AM Whitlock is an automatic pick as he's in the top 4 in the rankings. Barney's been rubbish for ages but is still a draw for punters, the backing that he gets (in Scotland in particular) is unbelievable. I am sure the Scottish punters would also support other players that took RVB's place. You've obviously never been to PLD in Scotland, the support he gets is phenomenal and I don't say that lightly, I've never experienced anything like it outside of football, it's quite bizarre actually. Personally I wouldn't have him in it either but the crowds love him and Sky are still trying to flog the dead horse that is the Taylor/Barney "rivalry" Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 03, 2014, 12:18:39 AM Whitlock is an automatic pick as he's in the top 4 in the rankings. Barney's been rubbish for ages but is still a draw for punters, the backing that he gets (in Scotland in particular) is unbelievable. Yeah I know Whitlock is an automatic pick, I just dont like him. I think he is overhyped. I am sure the Scottish punters would also support other players that took RVB's place. Would have been good if Sky put out there possibles to a public vote and see who got in. If sky did that, there would be Facebook campaigns the world over to get the devilish in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 03, 2014, 02:25:42 AM Whitlock is an automatic pick as he's in the top 4 in the rankings. Barney's been rubbish for ages but is still a draw for punters, the backing that he gets (in Scotland in particular) is unbelievable. I am sure the Scottish punters would also support other players that took RVB's place. You've obviously never been to PLD in Scotland, the support he gets is phenomenal and I don't say that lightly, I've never experienced anything like it outside of football, it's quite bizarre actually. Personally I wouldn't have him in it either but the crowds love him and Sky are still trying to flog the dead horse that is the Taylor/Barney "rivalry" Is it something to do with the protestant/orange thing? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 03, 2014, 10:52:12 AM Whitlock is an automatic pick as he's in the top 4 in the rankings. Barney's been rubbish for ages but is still a draw for punters, the backing that he gets (in Scotland in particular) is unbelievable. I am sure the Scottish punters would also support other players that took RVB's place. You've obviously never been to PLD in Scotland, the support he gets is phenomenal and I don't say that lightly, I've never experienced anything like it outside of football, it's quite bizarre actually. Personally I wouldn't have him in it either but the crowds love him and Sky are still trying to flog the dead horse that is the Taylor/Barney "rivalry" Is it something to do with the protestant/orange thing? No it's more of a Scotland/England thing. Obv I'm aware Barney isn't Scottish but in the early renewals of the Premier League he was a threat to Taylor and he wasn't English. That and the fact that people like standing and chanting Barney Army in much the same way that Van Der Voort's popularity increased tenfold when they discovered a chant for him. With regards to him getting a PL spot he was always going to get one due to his popularity and at 10th in the OOM probably deserves one. Only Wade and to a lesser extent Hamilton can have any real grumbles about not making it as both have far stronger claims than Newton in particular. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: rinswun on January 04, 2014, 01:14:54 PM Just spoke to my man at the BDO. Apparently the following players are moving over to the PDC after this tournament and are obliged to return any prize money should they progress to the semi finals or beyond. Can't be fantastic from a motivational perspective:
Bunting Waites Wilson Green De Vos Van Den Pass Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on January 04, 2014, 02:03:35 PM Just spoke to my man at the BDO. Apparently the following players are moving over to the PDC after this tournament and are obliged to return any prize money should they progress to the semi finals or beyond. Can't be fantastic from a motivational perspective: Has your main Man realised the Trebles are the same size yet?Bunting Waites Wilson Green De Vos Van Den Pass Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on January 04, 2014, 02:18:35 PM Seemingly most of the young Dutch will move over due to their Sponsors pulling out over the last Year.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 04, 2014, 05:39:13 PM I try to watch and enjoy but they just make it so difficult!!
Waites obtaining an injury whilst sitting down playing dominos at his local was the highlight for me. Probs should spend that time chucking arras.. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 04, 2014, 09:14:05 PM Watching the BDO darts
Jake just said "Lucky these guys don't play for a living. They wouldn't be able to afford to buy the shopping" Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 04, 2014, 09:20:20 PM Now watching the women's version and he's just killing himself laughing.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 04, 2014, 09:24:33 PM "Why are they playing 3 sets? We will be here all night!"
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2014, 09:26:40 PM Jake just said "Lucky these guys don't play for a living. They wouldn't be able to afford to buy the shopping" If you'd posted this this afternoon, I'd have asked how QPR were doing. However, you posted it later, so I can't. :'( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: kp24 on January 04, 2014, 10:45:54 PM Just spoke to my man at the BDO. Apparently the following players are moving over to the PDC after this tournament and are obliged to return any prize money should they progress to the semi finals or beyond. Can't be fantastic from a motivational perspective: Bunting Waites Wilson Green De Vos Van Den Pass This will continue to happen as if you want to be pro darts player you have to play on pdc Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 10, 2014, 03:35:45 PM "if a 9 darter was to happen, this is the game it would be in".. I thought this was on BBC2 not comedy central..
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on January 25, 2014, 09:43:57 AM Am I missing something? seems pointless to me.
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGM7brElvS4 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 08:40:10 AM It's baaaaaack.
Anyone sniffed out any deece bets? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on February 06, 2014, 08:55:29 AM It's baaaaaack. Anyone sniffed out any deece bets? Betting Emporium have a guy who seems to know what he is talking about and it's free info. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 11:50:02 AM It's baaaaaack. Anyone sniffed out any deece bets? Betting Emporium have a guy who seems to know what he is talking about and it's free info. tyty. Will take a look now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on February 06, 2014, 05:21:36 PM It's baaaaaack. Anyone sniffed out any deece bets? Betting Emporium have a guy who seems to know what he is talking about and it's free info. I was surprised that there was no mention of Taylor moving from Unicorn to Target for his darts. He'll be using the new darts for the first time in competition tonight and has only had them for practice the last 4 or 5 days. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 06, 2014, 06:35:43 PM Hadn't got time to do a TFT style breakdown - however picks tonight
Anderson - flying, great form at weekend - think 6/4 too big MVG - ref tea cake post, sposr Taylor will make us look stupid Wes Newton - I know I know, just think 2/1 is too big over shirt format when snakebite has been tinkering with darts as well and didn't look much in it on weekend form. Just think it's time to oppose him at those prices Thornton - solid, experienced of PD arguably in better form Lewis - Whitlock is a nonse Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on February 06, 2014, 06:52:00 PM Hadn't got time to do a TFT style breakdown - however picks tonight Anderson - flying, great form at weekend - think 6/4 too big MVG - ref tea cake post, sposr Taylor will make us look stupid Wes Newton - I know I know, just think 2/1 is too big over shirt format when snakebite has been tinkering with darts as well and didn't look much in it on weekend form. Just think it's time to oppose him at those prices Thornton - solid, experienced of PD arguably in better form Lewis - Whitlock is a nonse Agree with all of that, on them all for first night fun but couldn't bring myself to back Wes the miserable bar steward . Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 06:57:53 PM I'm against Anderson, Newton and Thornton. Could be some fun sweats. :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 06, 2014, 07:24:53 PM Thornton
MVG Barney most 180s I don't suppose anyone knows what darts Snakebite plans on using tonight? If he has ditched the Taylor darts with the thick barrels the 5/2 Wright most 180s is big. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 06, 2014, 07:59:06 PM Yawn Thornton
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 08:02:28 PM Go on the Chizzster. Debut rungood.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 06, 2014, 08:07:21 PM Milli in run like god shocker. Well done mate
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 08:13:15 PM Milli in run like god shocker. Well done mate ul fella. rather be lucky than good and all that. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 06, 2014, 08:27:46 PM Ha ha me too....got this one so wrong, never back Buzz Lighyeae ever again
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 08:32:05 PM RVB will mess it up for me. He always does. Also got MVG but real worried about that one.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 08:36:53 PM Obv bokked myself. Win or lose still love Wright.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 06, 2014, 08:46:12 PM Why is Newton in the PL?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on February 06, 2014, 08:47:40 PM Good start for the new boys, 2 for 2.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 06, 2014, 09:05:44 PM Fmel - just f***** off barny - I'm going 0/5 - variance lol
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 09:12:36 PM If Barney holds here and MVG can find a win then the missus is getting it tonight. Chooooooooooooooo choooooooo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on February 06, 2014, 09:18:52 PM If Barney holds here and MVG can find a win then the missus is getting it tonight. Chooooooooooooooo choooooooo. Double fist pumps all round :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 09:49:07 PM If Barney holds here and MVG can find a win then the missus is getting it tonight. Chooooooooooooooo choooooooo. Double fist pumps all round :D lolz. wp Fortunately for the missus I am still playing poker.. Just need MVG to hold for the 4 fold. Will swerving Lewis cost me? I don't care coz I am buzzing. Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii <3 the arras. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Waz1892 on February 06, 2014, 09:52:41 PM 33/1 that was!! 😃
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 06, 2014, 09:53:42 PM 33/1 that was!! 😃 Oi oi milli.....poor mrs milli Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 06, 2014, 09:54:12 PM That kid is a bit special.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on February 06, 2014, 09:55:04 PM Nice one Milli.
Chin up Phillip. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 09:56:06 PM 33/1 that was!! 😃 For 7-0? thought it would have been more tbf. A new era of darts has begun. 33/1 that was!! 😃 Oi oi milli.....poor mrs milli Indeed fella. indeed. Will just buy her some flowers instead. She will appreciate that more.. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Waz1892 on February 06, 2014, 09:57:29 PM 33/1 that was!! 😃 For 7-0? thought it would have been more tbf. A new era of darts has begun. 33/1 that was!! 😃 Oi oi milli.....poor mrs milli Indeed fella. indeed. Will just buy her some flowers instead. She will appreciate that more.. Yes sorry, when it was 1-0. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 06, 2014, 09:59:33 PM 66/1 7-0 was.
Give Taylor a few months and he will be back, should drift on a top 4 finish and then it will be time to pounce. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Waz1892 on February 06, 2014, 10:00:19 PM 66/1 7-0 was. Give Taylor a few months and he will be back, should drift on a top 4 finish and then it will be time to pounce. 1-0 33/1 when i had a sneaky £5 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 06, 2014, 10:03:17 PM Come on Lewis get me out
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 06, 2014, 10:04:32 PM 66/1 7-0 was. Give Taylor a few months and he will be back, should drift on a top 4 finish and then it will be time to pounce. 1-0 33/1 when i had a sneaky £5 oioi. what a boss. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on February 06, 2014, 10:09:08 PM 66/1 7-0 was. Give Taylor a few months and he will be back, should drift on a top 4 finish and then it will be time to pounce. 1-0 33/1 when i had a sneaky £5 oioi. what a FYP ;) 7-0 was 110/1 with Totesport before the game Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Waz1892 on February 06, 2014, 10:10:13 PM 66/1 7-0 was. Give Taylor a few months and he will be back, should drift on a top 4 finish and then it will be time to pounce. 1-0 33/1 when i had a sneaky £5 oioi. what a boss. I know blondes dont like after-quotes or whatever its called, but i was pretty chuffed, apologies. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on February 06, 2014, 10:12:37 PM 66/1 7-0 was. Give Taylor a few months and he will be back, should drift on a top 4 finish and then it will be time to pounce. 1-0 33/1 when i had a sneaky £5 oioi. what a boss. I know blondes dont like after-quotes or whatever its called, but i was pretty chuffed, apologies. We don't mind it when Taylor is on the other end of the hiding ;) Glad you got weighed in, Waz! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on February 06, 2014, 10:19:26 PM Come on Lewis get me out Reckon you might be ok here. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 06, 2014, 10:25:56 PM Somehow profit as tilt doubled my last two naps. Normal service resumed.
Was an interesting night; felt Thornton threw is game away and we didn't see Anderson at all as barny was amazing. Think they'll be plenty off opportunity here - that doubles payed over 3/1 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on February 09, 2014, 10:25:12 PM How has Bunting been getting on in the PDC, I see 45-1 is still available with Sb for the Worlds. Really hope he does well.
Thought I'd google him and was surprised to see he has already won a title http://www.espn.co.uk/darts/sport/story/281641.html Well done that lad. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 09, 2014, 10:30:09 PM How has Bunting been getting on in the PDC, I see 45-1 is still available with Sb for the Worlds. Really hope he does well. He won his second Floor event.The better Players and more Tv exposure should help his game and I can see him average 95+ on a consistent basis. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on February 09, 2014, 10:32:31 PM How has Bunting been getting on in the PDC, I see 45-1 is still available with Sb for the Worlds. Really hope he does well. He won his second Floor event.The better Players and more Tv exposure should help his game and I can see him average 95+ on a consistent basis. I presume floor event means literally that, not played on a stage? Good start for him, Can see him being a lot lower than 45's for the worlds. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 09, 2014, 10:44:37 PM He is as good as anyone outwith the big three imo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 11, 2014, 08:43:29 AM Stakes and Ladders have a PLD Pool this week, would their be any interest in a privae Blonde Pool(if it can be arranged? and if so which sort of stake?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 11, 2014, 07:37:34 PM Any interest in this?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on February 11, 2014, 08:32:00 PM I'm game for the pool.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 11, 2014, 09:05:49 PM I'm game for the pool. Nice one, ill ask Honeybadger if he canset one up and hopefully it will encourage more to follow??Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on February 11, 2014, 09:57:58 PM In for the £1 and £10 pools.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on February 11, 2014, 11:09:18 PM Hi guys, I have been asked by Snowball to set up a private blondes-only pool for this Thursday's PL darts. It is £10 to enter and is being hosted on www.stakesandladders.com.
If you don't know about Stakes&Ladders yet then please have a look at the thread on this forum: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=63159.0 Since this is a private pool for blondes only, all members who want to enter should let me know their S&L usernames so they can be added to the permission list. However, once you have done this you will never have to do so again... you will automatically be eligible for all private blonde pools in the future. You can either PM me, or just post your username in this thread or the S&L thread. I realise this is a bit of a ballache, but you will only have to do it once. Btw, if you can currently see this pool in your pools lobby then this means you are already on the list because we recognise your username and have thus added you in. Hope you enjoy the pool. It'll be interesting to see who can establish ultimate bragging rights! Stu Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 11, 2014, 11:32:40 PM Will jump in this shiz tomorrow. added sweats for when my acca falls at the first hurdle.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 10:48:54 AM Joined the pools. Took a couple of risky lines but if they pay off then it could be good. I should have hedged my acca bets but I am too much of a degen. Can lightning strike twice?
I think I have a bet that I like tonight: Match With The Most 180 - Outright Robert Thornton v Michael van Gerwen 15/8 Dave Chisnall v Peter Wright 10/3 Gary Anderson v Simon Whitlock 7/2 Adrian Lewis v Phil Taylor 4/1 Wes Newton v Raymond van Barneveld 4/1 Taylor smashed it at the weekend, got to grips with his new darts. Lewis v Taylor already holds record for most 180s in a match. Taylor has something to prove after last week's anhilation. Lewis always ups his game vs Taylor and is a prolific 180s scorer as it is. I think 4/1 is too big. I would be more worried about Chizzy vs Wright than I am Thornton vs Mvg tbh. Anyone have any thoughts of on this or fancies of their own? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 11:55:15 AM Meh, i'm on. 7/2 now. http://www.betvictor.com/sports/en/darts/darts-specials/coupons/965300/203863010/467479300/0/0/PE/0/0/0/0/0 (http://www.betvictor.com/sports/en/darts/darts-specials/coupons/965300/203863010/467479300/0/0/PE/0/0/0/0/0)
Could be an expensive night for me, just had a bet on Taylor most 180s of the night @ 12/1. The guy hit 2 9 darters last weekend, this is not reflected in this price at all imo. I don't like the guy but I just feel like he is going to come out and say "hang on a minute, i'm still the daddy in this sport". Whatever happens it's gonna be fun. Duh duddah duh duh, duddah duh duh duh duhhhhh. oi oi oi. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on February 13, 2014, 12:14:27 PM Joined the pools. Took a couple of risky lines but if they pay off then it could be good. I should have hedged my acca bets but I am too much of a degen. Can lightning strike twice? I think I have a bet that I like tonight: Match With The Most 180 - Outright Robert Thornton v Michael van Gerwen 15/8 Dave Chisnall v Peter Wright 10/3 Gary Anderson v Simon Whitlock 7/2 Adrian Lewis v Phil Taylor 4/1 Wes Newton v Raymond van Barneveld 4/1 Taylor smashed it at the weekend, got to grips with his new darts. Lewis v Taylor already holds record for most 180s in a match. Taylor has something to prove after last week's anhilation. Lewis always ups his game vs Taylor and is a prolific 180s scorer as it is. I think 4/1 is too big. I would be more worried about Chizzy vs Wright than I am Thornton vs Mvg tbh. Anyone have any thoughts of on this or fancies of their own? I had discounted the bottom 3 games because I don't think they will go past 10 or 11 legs, Chisnall vs Wright has potential to go the closest to 7 - 7 so more chances to rack up the 180's I guess. Thornton vs MVG is interesting, MVG never looks comfy when playing Thornton, and Thornton can get a grind on, but unless Thornton has a hex over MVG (i have not looked it up) I don't get that price at all. Lewis vs Taylor should be immense - no matter Taylors form I think Lewis will win no worse then 7 - 4, just think we are seeing the start of sharp climb in form for Lewis, I am aware my dislike of Taylor clouds my judgement. Milli - Do you not think Taylors want to switch to 19's constantly, effects his price in 180's markets? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 12:45:28 PM Yeah obv hate the fact he goes down to 19z but If he is throwing his first dart consistently then I am hoping he will have the lie to stay upstairs.
I think Lewis v Taylor will be the closest. whatever happens think it will be a great night of arras. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 13, 2014, 06:55:56 PM Joined the pools. Took a couple of risky lines but if they pay off then it could be good. I should have hedged my acca bets but I am too much of a degen. Can lightning strike twice? I think I have a bet that I like tonight: Match With The Most 180 - Outright Robert Thornton v Michael van Gerwen 15/8 Dave Chisnall v Peter Wright 10/3 Gary Anderson v Simon Whitlock 7/2 Adrian Lewis v Phil Taylor 4/1 Wes Newton v Raymond van Barneveld 4/1 Taylor smashed it at the weekend, got to grips with his new darts. Lewis v Taylor already holds record for most 180s in a match. Taylor has something to prove after last week's anhilation. Lewis always ups his game vs Taylor and is a prolific 180s scorer as it is. I think 4/1 is too big. I would be more worried about Chizzy vs Wright than I am Thornton vs Mvg tbh. Anyone have any thoughts of on this or fancies of their own? I backed this as well. I made it 2nd fav to Thorn v MVG. Taylor's legs per 180 is a lot less v Lewis than his average and I don't think that's a coincidence. Only other bet I've had is Taylor at 6/4. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 07:09:37 PM oioiii. we cant lose with Bazza onboard.
It's into 3/1 now so at least we got value.. come on Taylor. ewwwwww, that feels so dirty saying that. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Mark_Porter on February 13, 2014, 07:55:59 PM 'Wow, I love this new Sky Sports Clapometer which flashes up whenever anyone cheers/claps...'
Said no one ever Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on February 13, 2014, 08:00:15 PM That was ridiculous.
How did Newton win that? He was terrible. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on February 13, 2014, 08:08:25 PM Lifes parenial victim RvB turned up - really not sure why he is so popular, he acts like world owes him something
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 08:12:13 PM I thought Wes was deece. 149 finish, consistent scoring and held it together when it mattered.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 09:01:30 PM Give it a rest Whitlock will ya.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 09:30:39 PM 180 in the first leg I was like "that's what i'm talking about...", now i'm like "what was I talking about..?" :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 09:46:36 PM Lolz we are top of the pops with x7 180s but pretty ridic run out. If Taylor doesn't mess up that 83 or he doubles properly in the first then we crush I reckon. Need some luck though. There was x10 140s in that game as well. :(
The sweat is on. Hope MVG is off the boil. legoooooooooo Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 10:25:07 PM wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. Not even a sweat... pay me Mr Chandler.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on February 13, 2014, 10:34:52 PM Nice one boys!
There was a fair few stray third darts in that MVG match, and I thought you were going to get done the way it was playing out! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 13, 2014, 10:39:47 PM Nice one boys! There was a fair few stray third darts in that MVG match, and I thought you were going to get done the way it was playing out! Was great fist pumping every 140 or stray dart. Punting aside I thought the night on the whole was a bit of a let down. Still can't wait for next week though. Hoping lightning can strike thrice. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on February 14, 2014, 12:08:54 AM Nice one boys! There was a fair few stray third darts in that MVG match, and I thought you were going to get done the way it was playing out! Was great fist pumping every 140 or stray dart. Punting aside I thought the night on the whole was a bit of a let down. Still can't wait for next week though. Hoping lightning can strike thrice. I wasn't even on and was doing the same :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 18, 2014, 10:52:56 AM Been going through the darts for this week. Not a massive amount I like tbh.
Match with the most 180s looks abs nailed on with Dave Chisnall v Michael van Gerwen, but @11/10 is a bit on the short side for me. If I was going to bet on the 180s I would probs do MVG most on the night @ 11/4. The bet I do like is Peter Wright @ 11/4. This is strictly on form as Taylor crushes the h2h 7-0. Last week I thought Taylor was going to come back all guns blazing but he didn't.. he seems to have a massive mental block in the PL this year. Wright is not an easy opponent. He is supremely confident, he will get under your skin and get the crowd on his side which will crush Taylor mentally. He grinds when he needs to and I can see him punishing any of Taylor's mistakes. I honestly think if Taylor has a poor first leg then Wright will cruise to an easy win as per Lewis and MVG in previous weeks. Wright drew after being 5-1 up last week so he will want to make amends for dropping a point. Anyone got any thoughts on this or fancies? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: flushthemout on February 18, 2014, 02:59:00 PM Can't see Taylor repeating last two weeks Dave, would lay Chisnall for all my bank, not consistant enough in my opinion, great viewing though
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2014, 03:10:00 PM Been going through the darts for this week. Not a massive amount I like tbh. Match with the most 180s looks abs nailed on with Dave Chisnall v Michael van Gerwen, but @11/10 is a bit on the short side for me. If I was going to bet on the 180s I would probs do MVG most on the night @ 11/4. The bet I do like is Peter Wright @ 11/4. This is strictly on form as Taylor crushes the h2h 7-0. Last week I thought Taylor was going to come back all guns blazing but he didn't.. he seems to have a massive mental block in the PL this year. Wright is not an easy opponent. He is supremely confident, he will get under your skin and get the crowd on his side which will crush Taylor mentally. He grinds when he needs to and I can see him punishing any of Taylor's mistakes. I honestly think if Taylor has a poor first leg then Wright will cruise to an easy win as per Lewis and MVG in previous weeks. Wright drew after being 5-1 up last week so he will want to make amends for dropping a point. Anyone got any thoughts on this or fancies? To play devil's advocate, I'm sure Taylor will want to make amends for getting blasted in the first 2 matches, and he has played the top 2 players in the first 2 weeks. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on February 20, 2014, 07:34:23 PM I need Anders to hit a few 180's I was on Thornton ftw. But had a cover on Anders over 2.5 180's.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 20, 2014, 08:46:29 PM Ahhhhhh. If Wright binks that leg I am home and dry I think. :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 20, 2014, 09:07:48 PM Boooooom. who needs pokers when you are printing money on PL darts.
Peter Wright, Wright, Wright. Get out of my face Taylor. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on February 20, 2014, 10:00:02 PM Anyone keeping scores on the 180's?
Howmany we had so far, I lost count. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on February 20, 2014, 10:49:13 PM Boooooom. who needs pokers when you are printing money on PL darts. Peter Wright, Wright, Wright. Get out of my face Taylor. Haha nice one, you're killing it so far this season. This loudometer or whatever they are calling it is brutal! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on February 20, 2014, 11:03:02 PM Said to Milli earlier that this rounds off a post for BBV!
Well done mate :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on February 24, 2014, 08:25:06 PM Hi guys,
For those of you who don't know yet, Snowball has been running a private Blonde-only pool on the PL Darts every week on www.stakesandladders.com. It is £5 to enter. If you want to enter this week's pool please register an account with Stakes & Ladders, and let either myself or Snowball know your S&L username. I will then add you to the permission list so that you will be able to enter the pool. You will also then be able to enter all future Blonde-only private pools. Any questions, fire away. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 26, 2014, 09:34:59 PM Looks like a tough week. I had a quick glance over the card this morning, nothing screamed value although their could be one bet I like. Will check the stats tomorrow to see if it has any legs.
Anyone thinking Whitlock @ 4/1is worth a tickle? Anyone got any fancies? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 26, 2014, 10:05:27 PM I had a quick look last night and liked Anderson dnb at 10/11 Hills
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 27, 2014, 09:37:37 AM I had a quick look last night and liked Anderson dnb at 10/11 Hills A lot of nice things in Ando's favour tonight, the fact it is in Glasgow is a big one, plus the game will be a fast tempo and he crushes Chizzy in the h2h. Think it's a nice bet. Sick price you got there. 8/11 most places now. After a quick glance yesterday I spent a couple of hours this morning and think I have found a couple of bets I like: MAIN BET: Match with most 180s Chizzy vs Ando @11/4. I expect it to be pretty close so a deece amount of legs. If these two both turn up they will crush everyone imo and the bet is also capable of coming in with only one of them turning up. PUNT ALERT: The one I fancied yesterday was RvB to hit the highest checkout on the night @ 9/1 (joint 7th fav) with BetFred (he is 7/1 at a few places and 5th favourite). My theory was he is playing MvG so will need to take his chances, will often be left with big scores and I've seen him hit a fair few 170s in the past. Plus I am hoping he wants to show that the Dutch oldschool isn't done in yet. His historical checkout stats in the PL don't really back this up but it's a gut feel and I think he leads MVG 10 - 8 in h2h, he didn't beat MVG 10 times by just finishing on double figure checkouts.. Even if I completely brick at least betting on the last two matches ensures you get a sweat for the whole night. :) TICKLE: Couldn't resist having a go on Whitlock @ 4/1. Just too big with Taylor playing how he is. Can lightning strike four times? Probs should have swerved tonight completely but I am too much of a degen and can never quit on a heater innit. GL darts punters. Duh dudduh duh duh, duh dudduh duh duhhh. oi oi oi Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 27, 2014, 11:45:40 AM I like Snakebite at 15/8. Lewis always gets it tight in Glasgow and has made plenty of comments in the past that make it clear he doesn't like playing there due to the crowd. The fact he is playing against a Scot will make the crowd worse.
I also like Chizzy under 96.5 ave at a shade of odds against. Last on against Anderson and I expect the crowd to be pretty vile by that point which won't be conducive to good darts. He also struggled when the crowd started booing when he was trying to close out his match against MVG in Dublin. He won't have experienced anything like he will face tonight. Also of they do that loudometer thing again (whoever thought that was a good idea needs shot in the face) it won't help scoring any. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 27, 2014, 12:10:46 PM Lewis has been playing better the last couple of years in Glasgow as he knows it will get him off the stage quicker.I don't like him but tge abuse he gets is way over the top.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on February 27, 2014, 12:43:34 PM Having saif that he was ill last week and may use that excuse again if he starts badly tho he playes well at the weekend.
Who's all doing average betting Baz, i noticed victors stopped offering that market:( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 27, 2014, 01:24:12 PM Having saif that he was ill last week and may use that excuse again if he starts badly tho he playes well at the weekend. Who's all doing average betting Baz, i noticed victors stopped offering that market:( Bwin, WH, Betway Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on February 27, 2014, 07:02:33 PM We had table seats directly behind the players when Lewis had pints and coins thrown at him when he played Ando 3 years back, the crowd were horrific that night, totally ruined what had been a great night. Anderson was livid and basically stopped trying.
It will be interesting to see how the crowd are in the Hydro it's a fantastic venue and will create a lot of noise but I don't think it will be as hostile as the SECC. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 27, 2014, 09:05:45 PM Sighs at Taylor turning up. Glad it was only a tickle.
So excited for the last 2 games. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 27, 2014, 09:39:33 PM :( so close to the 170.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 27, 2014, 09:48:47 PM gg 180s bet. Great game. Barney Army.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: George2Loose on February 27, 2014, 10:18:14 PM Wright win or yet to play?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on February 27, 2014, 10:35:00 PM Top tipping Bazza and Snowy. Saved me from being a complete bust. RvB cost me the 180s bet, did not expect that sort of performance from him. wp sir.
Wright win or yet to play? Wright won with ease. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on February 27, 2014, 10:56:12 PM Massive sigh that sky dropped the noise'o'meter after player request (p taylor missed a big double last week and complained) my bet of Glasgow raising the roof was nailed on after the players and crowd turned up tonight. Back to the drawing board, or dart board!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on March 06, 2014, 11:54:33 AM Guys what do you think of Stephen Bunting for Uk Open, I was looking on Sky and they have him at 33/1 1-2 ew or at 28-1 1-2-3-4, After already winning a floor tournament and all his experience at the BDO surely an Open tournament like this is right up his street. He must be used to putting in a shift and by all accounts this tournament is quite heavy going.
Anyway I've had a little e/w investment for first 4. Just thought I'd put it out there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 06, 2014, 12:06:40 PM Guys what do you think of Stephen Bunting for Uk Open, I was looking on Sky and they have him at 33/1 1-2 ew or at 28-1 1-2-3-4, After already winning a floor tournament and all his experience at the BDO surely an Open tournament like this is right up his street. He must be used to putting in a shift and by all accounts this tournament is quite heavy going. Anyway I've had a little e/w investment for first 4. Just thought I'd put it out there. Is this the same event that used to be at the Reebok in Bolton in late May/early June once the football season had finished? 'The FA cup of darts' with a totally unseeded draw or a totally new event as its from Minehead and on ITV sport rather than sky sports? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on March 06, 2014, 12:09:27 PM Guys what do you think of Stephen Bunting for Uk Open, I was looking on Sky and they have him at 33/1 1-2 ew or at 28-1 1-2-3-4, After already winning a floor tournament and all his experience at the BDO surely an Open tournament like this is right up his street. He must be used to putting in a shift and by all accounts this tournament is quite heavy going. Anyway I've had a little e/w investment for first 4. Just thought I'd put it out there. Is this the same event that used to be at the Reebok in Bolton in late May/early June once the football season had finished? 'The FA cup of darts' with a totally unseeded draw or a totally new event as its from Minehead and on ITV sport rather than sky sports? Yes it's moved from Bolton to Minehead and is earlier in the season. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 06, 2014, 12:51:27 PM Guys what do you think of Stephen Bunting for Uk Open, I was looking on Sky and they have him at 33/1 1-2 ew or at 28-1 1-2-3-4, After already winning a floor tournament and all his experience at the BDO surely an Open tournament like this is right up his street. He must be used to putting in a shift and by all accounts this tournament is quite heavy going. Anyway I've had a little e/w investment for first 4. Just thought I'd put it out there. Is this the same event that used to be at the Reebok in Bolton in late May/early June once the football season had finished? 'The FA cup of darts' with a totally unseeded draw or a totally new event as its from Minehead and on ITV sport rather than sky sports? This Yes it's moved from Bolton to Minehead and is earlier in the season. They have obviously fitted it in with Prem League in Exeter to get the 'South West' swing of the season over in one weekend with this event at mine head. Bunting might be value as he will be 'rested' from not being involved on the Thurs night before the uk open starts on Friday. Cant remember any of the 'majors' occurring during the prem league season before. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 06, 2014, 01:12:34 PM The private Blonde pool is up on www.stakesandladders.com for tonight's PL darts. It is £5 to enter. Last week Kmac86 and MattNFFC shared first prize. If you want to enter it then please let me know your S&L username and I will add you to the permission list (if you have already done this you don't need to do it again).
Also, Lil'Dave has a private £100 pool for tonight's darts. Same thing applies - if you want to enter this pool then let me know your S&L username and I will add you to the permission list. I finished joint bottom last week (sigh) and Toby Lewis finished top. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on March 06, 2014, 01:51:55 PM Guys what do you think of Stephen Bunting for Uk Open, I was looking on Sky and they have him at 33/1 1-2 ew or at 28-1 1-2-3-4, After already winning a floor tournament and all his experience at the BDO surely an Open tournament like this is right up his street. He must be used to putting in a shift and by all accounts this tournament is quite heavy going. Anyway I've had a little e/w investment for first 4. Just thought I'd put it out there. Is this the same event that used to be at the Reebok in Bolton in late May/early June once the football season had finished? 'The FA cup of darts' with a totally unseeded draw or a totally new event as its from Minehead and on ITV sport rather than sky sports? This Yes it's moved from Bolton to Minehead and is earlier in the season. They have obviously fitted it in with Prem League in Exeter to get the 'South West' swing of the season over in one weekend with this event at mine head. Bunting might be value as he will be 'rested' from not being involved on the Thurs night before the uk open starts on Friday. Cant remember any of the 'majors' occurring during the prem league season before. Makes sense, equally a great opportunity for a few of them in the hope that there might be a bit of fatigue from the prem league ( there not exactly the fittest men on earth) Anyone else not in the prem that might be worth a top 4 finish? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on March 06, 2014, 01:55:39 PM Just has a look and Wade is 25-1 for 1-2 1/2 and also for 1-2-3-4 1/4 with Sky. Not sure on his form though. Looks like Him and Bunting are the only ones in the top 10 betting not in prem league.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on March 06, 2014, 01:59:08 PM Just has a look and Wade is 25-1 for 1-2 1/2 and also for 1-2-3-4 1/4 with Sky. Not sure on his form though. Looks like Him and Bunting are the only ones in the top 10 betting not in prem league. Doesn't look like there is a lot of money on bf but 25's seems abit off for Wade. Think I'll leave Wade unless he goes out to 28 or 33-1 for 1-2-3-4. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 06, 2014, 02:04:33 PM Just has a look and Wade is 25-1 for 1-2 1/2 and also for 1-2-3-4 1/4 with Sky. Not sure on his form though. Looks like Him and Bunting are the only ones in the top 10 betting not in prem league. Doesn't look like there is a lot of money on bf but 25's seems abit off for Wade. Think I'll leave Wade unless he goes out to 28 or 33-1 for 1-2-3-4. Wade is general 33/1 at most firms. Wouldn't be taking 25/1. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on March 06, 2014, 03:14:58 PM Anyone know when he first round draw is done for the Minehead comp?
Is it staying as a free draw after every round? Or does the first round draw dictate that the winner of game 1 plays the winner of game 2 etc? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 06, 2014, 03:17:06 PM Anyone know when he first round draw is done for the Minehead comp? Is it staying as a free draw after every round? Or does the first round draw dictate that the winner of game 1 plays the winner of game 2 etc? Newton out of the prem league tonight with illness.. Thornton plays twice tonight and misses dublin later in March. He is still potentially in the UK Open depending on how he feels tomorrow per the PDC website. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 06, 2014, 03:55:23 PM Anyone know when he first round draw is done for the Minehead comp? Is it staying as a free draw after every round? Or does the first round draw dictate that the winner of game 1 plays the winner of game 2 etc? The draw has already been done up to the last 64 Full draw is on the PDC site. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: typhoon13 on March 06, 2014, 05:04:37 PM Any interest tonight Bazza Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: stato_1 on March 06, 2014, 06:46:26 PM Who are we on tonight?!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on March 06, 2014, 06:53:21 PM I was on Whitlock at better price earlier when market first went up, marginal but still worth a punt.
I have had a nibble on Chizzy, I also think MVG is worth a punt. Expecting a big reaction after last week. I have done the 3 above in a patent and also done a lucky 15 and added in Anderson. Spite betting against Taylor. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 06, 2014, 07:05:26 PM MVG and RVB double tonight. Go on the Orange.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 06, 2014, 07:10:14 PM Any interest tonight Bazza Taylor over 99.5 ave @4/5 comfortably covered in past two weeks and Anderson usually brings out the best in him. I like over 5.5 180s in same game. Thornton under 95.5 ave @11/10 Jackpot over 95.5 ave @5/6 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 06, 2014, 08:15:14 PM I like that Lewis over 95.5 bet
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on March 06, 2014, 08:39:27 PM Chisnal can go f**k himself imo. That was a terrible performance, Barny was there for the taking this evening.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on March 06, 2014, 08:54:47 PM Chisnal can go f**k himself imo. That was a terrible performance, Barny was there for the taking this evening. Yip you could see in the second leg Barney didn't fancy it, Chizzy was pretty pathetic the last 3 legs. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 06, 2014, 09:29:24 PM 3 Draws from 3, their will be a few arses twitching just now
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 06, 2014, 09:32:19 PM 3 Draws from 3, their will be a few arses twitching just now Mine is one of them. Had a small acca @ 900/1 and a yankee, pays £4.2k. Hold your throws boys!!!!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 06, 2014, 09:56:44 PM Tried to back both when Ando went in front. Got your bet cannot be placed msg. geeeeeeeeg. In the hands of the darts gods
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Skippy on March 06, 2014, 10:05:12 PM Good luck!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 06, 2014, 10:14:35 PM As if I needed any more reason to hate Phil Taylor. 2 darts at the double to bink me £4k... I snap went in the garage and tried to hit double 14. I missed but I was fucking closer than him...
My attempt: (http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/Milligan84/20140306_215554_zps3ca5bb68.jpg) Wounded. I think it's the first time I have actually started sweating from a sweat. All in on Thornton I think. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 06, 2014, 10:19:10 PM Looks like Whitlocks laying homself on Betfair, quite a drift.
Can get 5/6 Thorn dnb wih Hills and 1.7 on Betfair Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 06, 2014, 10:20:03 PM Ul Millidonk, I sometimes get the Board out when I have a bad beat like that amd do the same
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 06, 2014, 10:28:21 PM Ul Millidonk, I sometimes get the Board out when I have a bad beat like that amd do the same haha, it's a must. Next few days arras is on ITV4, I have that on the garage tele so I can throw at the same time as the players which is always fun. Although it hurts when you hit it yourself and your bet bricks. :) Yankee returned £146.90. All in on Thornton. Terrible bet really but fuck it. FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOM. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 06, 2014, 10:31:16 PM Has anyone got Taylors average handy?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on March 06, 2014, 10:33:12 PM As if I needed any more reason to hate Phil Taylor. 2 darts at the double to bink me £4k... I snap went in the garage and tried to hit double 14. I missed but I was fucking closer than him... My attempt: (http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/Milligan84/20140306_215554_zps3ca5bb68.jpg) Wounded. I think it's the first time I have actually started sweating from a sweat. All in on Thornton I think. Gutted for you that you lost out but that post is brilliant :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on March 06, 2014, 10:34:32 PM Has anyone got Taylors average handy? Pretty sure it was 99.95 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 06, 2014, 10:41:17 PM Has anyone got Taylors average handy? Pretty sure it was 99.95 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 06, 2014, 10:54:07 PM Has anyone got Taylors average handy? Pretty sure it was 99.95 I had 99.91 as well... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 06, 2014, 11:23:45 PM I have been on live chat for over an Hour now, they have guessed this result as it looked like unders was in until Taylor threw an 11 Darter in the final Leg.
Planet Darts for once doesn't have the averages on their site for once and Hills can't provide me with the information on where they settled this Bet as a loser. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on March 07, 2014, 12:01:46 AM I have been on live chat for over an Hour now, they have guessed this result as it looked like unders was in until Taylor threw an 11 Darter in the final Leg. Planet Darts for once doesn't have the averages on their site for once and Hills can't provide me with the information on where they settled this Bet as a loser. http://live.dartsdata.com/PlayerDetails.aspx?PlayerId=335 Is this any good? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on March 07, 2014, 12:30:14 AM Unlucky Mill :(
A mate of mine was doing his nut on Skype about it costing him £200, but he soon piped down when I told him of your plight. Wouldn't have been the arrows I got out tonight, would have been a bow and arrow!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 07, 2014, 09:54:32 AM So after over an Hour on Live chat bwhich at onestage they asked if I could phone back in tge morning they took my number and said they would call back in the morning.
I recieved an email at 4am saying they would void the bet as their traders have it as an 99 average unless I can supply a reliable source with another result. Planet Darts noe has the average as 99.91on their website and I haven't heard back from them since I sent it at 7am. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 07, 2014, 10:20:16 AM Unlucky Mill :( A mate of mine was doing his nut on Skype about it costing him £200, but he soon piped down when I told him of your plight. Wouldn't have been the arrows I got out tonight, would have been a bow and arrow!! Lolz £200. Send him a virtual slap from me. :) It's not the losing, you expect to lose them bets obv, it's just how it went down, missing 2 darts at a clear double.. then Gary 'the choker' Anderson doesn't choke. I'm over it now (ish), you win some you lose some.. My punting life started off with a bit of rungood as documented here: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57248.msg1665117#msg1665117 (http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57248.msg1665117#msg1665117) Brian Deane netted a 93rd min equaliser to bink me 4 draws (ironic) and I have had the rub of the green plenty of times before. It was a fun sweat though. There is like 11 hours of pure unadulterated darts today and i'm off out to feed some goats and stroke some pigs. :( Have set the early session to record so I can watch all the twenty sixes when I get back. Last match of the day is Andy Smith v Gary Anderson. Liked Andy Smith @3/1 anyway but 100% spite backing him now. Go on The Pieman. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 07, 2014, 10:24:00 AM So after over an Hour on Live chat bwhich at onestage they asked if I could phone back in tge morning they took my number and said they would call back in the morning. I recieved an email at 4am saying they would void the bet as their traders have it as an 99 average unless I can supply a reliable source with another result. Planet Darts noe has the average as 99.91on their website and I haven't heard back from them since I sent it at 7am. The clowns responded telling me it was settled correctly despite me supplying them with the official site as a source. Cretins. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 07, 2014, 11:01:44 AM So after over an Hour on Live chat bwhich at onestage they asked if I could phone back in tge morning they took my number and said they would call back in the morning. I recieved an email at 4am saying they would void the bet as their traders have it as an 99 average unless I can supply a reliable source with another result. Planet Darts noe has the average as 99.91on their website and I haven't heard back from them since I sent it at 7am. The clowns responded telling me it was settled correctly despite me supplying them with the official site as a source. Cretins. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 07, 2014, 04:11:51 PM Good game to come back to. Really thought we were going to see a 9 darter there. Wp Ian White.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 07, 2014, 04:16:14 PM Lolz, woman interviewer to Ian and Daryl.. "I'll come to you first Harry". Love it. Have I missed much today?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 07, 2014, 09:37:15 PM Wtf!! Taylor busted 130..Twice!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 07, 2014, 10:00:49 PM Aden Kirk tho.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on March 07, 2014, 11:42:01 PM Bunting through by the skin of his teeth, Hopefully the nerves are out of the way, 15 misses at a double, 8-5 down at one stage. At 8-7 151 needed against 8 and he hit it. Not a great performance but through all the same.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 08, 2014, 03:44:00 PM Aden Kirk tho. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: samj19 on March 08, 2014, 07:58:47 PM Would really appreciate it if this Aden Kirk lad could hold his throw.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 09, 2014, 10:00:29 PM WP Lewis. That was an anhilation.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 13, 2014, 01:07:30 PM Not done any research myself yet for this week, but as I was browsing my usual place for darts tips I saw a couple I like:
Peter Wright @ evs with Coral / Boylesports My big bet of the night is: Anderson average 96.5+ @ 5/6 with pp. Hills are 5/6 for 97.5+, bwin are 11/10 97.5+ but I don't have an account with them. I've taken the lower variance / value line with pp. I think this line could move before the start tbh. His tournament avg is 99.24 Since PL last year throughout all comps his avg is 98.46 I expect the match to be a fast pace with lots of high scoring Anderson has been playing well of late and not missing doubles which is obv great for the average. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 13, 2014, 01:31:40 PM I've backed Whitlock at 2/1. He has improved week on week and I have this a fair bit closer, I've also backed over 4.5 180s in this one. Thornton and Barney have both been hit and miss but again 2/1 Thornton seems big enough. Chizzy over 3.5 180s at 4/5.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 13, 2014, 01:53:52 PM I've backed Whitlock at 2/1. He has improved week on week and I have this a fair bit closer, I've also backed over 4.5 180s in this one. Thornton and Barney have both been hit and miss but again 2/1 Thornton seems big enough. Chizzy over 3.5 180s at 4/5. Think Thornton is a good bet although I just love Barney too much to bet vs him. Jumping on the chizzy overs though. Great bet. Last week was really close in Whitlock v Thornton and that was with him having a 100% checkout percentage. ( if I recall correctly). Think he will need to do the same again if he is to beat snakebite. Although that said a win would be massive for him and White did lose vs Aden Kirk but I am expecting him to have just shrugged that off. GL anyway. Probs be a draw now. :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 13, 2014, 02:38:38 PM Tonight's Blonde PL darts pool is available to join on www.stakesandladders.com. £5 to enter. Bazzaboy won it last week if I remember correctly.
As I've said before, if you want to be eligible to play in Blonde pools (and have not already done so) then let me know your S&L username and I will add you to the permission list. Also, Lil'Dave has a £100 private pool on tonight's darts as well. If you fancy gambling with him then let me know and I will add you to the permission list. That swine Eso Kral randomly decided to enter it last week, and scooped the lot on his first try! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Snowball on March 13, 2014, 08:22:14 PM Whitlock shouldn't be in the PLD, i said it at the time and he's been a shambles apart from last week when he had a freak 100% on checkouts.
He seems more obsessed with leaving 170 than winning Legs. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: millidonk on March 13, 2014, 08:32:46 PM So standard. My smaller bet on Wright binks and my big bet on Ando loses. Started off so well, Ando was just horrific. Why didn't he choke like that last week when I had bags riding on it..
Siiiiiiiiiigh. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on March 13, 2014, 09:02:23 PM Whitlock shouldn't be in the PLD, i said it at the time and he's been a shambles apart from last week when he had a freak 100% on checkouts. He seems more obsessed with leaving 170 than winning Legs. This. I said it at the time of the draw also. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2014, 09:14:49 PM Don't think that played out quite how they planned it to...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on March 13, 2014, 10:55:21 PM Don't think that played out quite how they planned it to... Presumably you're talking about Carl Froch, I heard he didn't go down too well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 13, 2014, 10:57:01 PM Don't think that played out quite how they planned it to... Presumably you're talking about Carl Froch, I heard he didn't go down too well. Very mixed reaction given it was in his backyard. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 20, 2014, 05:01:41 PM The Blonde Darts pool is open for joining for tonight's PL Darts. I am gutted cos I was supposed to be going to Leeds to see the darts tonight but my son had an operation this morning so I have had to cancel. Guess I will just have to win the pool instead!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on March 20, 2014, 05:07:47 PM The Blonde Darts pool is open for joining for tonight's PL Darts. I am gutted cos I was supposed to be going to Leeds to see the darts tonight but my son had an operation this morning so I have had to cancel. Guess I will just have to win the pool instead! Looking to get involved in this tonight Stu, can you just quickly explain how it works specifically to the darts if possible? Are we just picking winners of each match for example or scorelines etc etc? Hope everything with your son is ok. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 20, 2014, 05:14:27 PM The Blonde Darts pool is open for joining for tonight's PL Darts. I am gutted cos I was supposed to be going to Leeds to see the darts tonight but my son had an operation this morning so I have had to cancel. Guess I will just have to win the pool instead! Looking to get involved in this tonight Stu, can you just quickly explain how it works specifically to the darts if possible? Are we just picking winners of each match for example or scorelines etc etc? Hope everything with your son is ok. Hi Tom. It's dead easy really. You login and click on the pool you want to enter. Then you answer the questions and click join. Questions are things like outcome of each match, predicting who will score the most 180s, predicting what the highest checkout will be etc. You want in for Lil'Dave's pool too? If so, I will add you to both the Blonde and the Lil'Dave permission list if you let me know your S&L username. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on March 20, 2014, 05:17:30 PM The Blonde Darts pool is open for joining for tonight's PL Darts. I am gutted cos I was supposed to be going to Leeds to see the darts tonight but my son had an operation this morning so I have had to cancel. Guess I will just have to win the pool instead! Looking to get involved in this tonight Stu, can you just quickly explain how it works specifically to the darts if possible? Are we just picking winners of each match for example or scorelines etc etc? Hope everything with your son is ok. Hi Tom. It's dead easy really. You login and click on the pool you want to enter. Then you answer the questions and click join. Questions are things like outcome of each match, predicting who will score the most 180s, predicting what the highest checkout will be etc. You want in for Lil'Dave's pool too? If so, I will add you to both the Blonde and the Lil'Dave permission list if you let me know your S&L username. Ok cool sounds great, prob just gona flick in the small buyin tonight but can I get permission for both for future weeks? S&L username is same as blonde - TL900 , thanks. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 20, 2014, 05:35:40 PM Ok cool sounds great, prob just gona flick in the small buyin tonight but can I get permission for both for future weeks? S&L username is same as blonde - TL900 , thanks. Just added you to the list so you can enter any of Lil'Dave's and any Blonde pools. Go on... get in Lil'Dave's £100 pool! We've run five PL Darts pools so far (we missed the first week), and 4 of those 5 times a first timer has scooped Lil'Dave's pool. So you're odds on, right? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Eso Kral on March 20, 2014, 05:44:18 PM The Blonde Darts pool is open for joining for tonight's PL Darts. I am gutted cos I was supposed to be going to Leeds to see the darts tonight but my son had an operation this morning so I have had to cancel. Guess I will just have to win the pool instead! Looking to get involved in this tonight Stu, can you just quickly explain how it works specifically to the darts if possible? Are we just picking winners of each match for example or scorelines etc etc? Hope everything with your son is ok. Hi Tom. It's dead easy really. You login and click on the pool you want to enter. Then you answer the questions and click join. Questions are things like outcome of each match, predicting who will score the most 180s, predicting what the highest checkout will be etc. You want in for Lil'Dave's pool too? If so, I will add you to both the Blonde and the Lil'Dave permission list if you let me know your S&L username. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on March 20, 2014, 07:05:26 PM What we on tonight?
Is this RVB's bad week or good week I can't remember now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on March 20, 2014, 07:27:07 PM I'll kick it off then since nobody it sticking anything up.
I have backed Chizzy < 96.5 avg. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on March 20, 2014, 08:00:19 PM Hahaha so rigged, but I don't care. Well played chizzy, you ledge.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 20, 2014, 11:36:33 PM Ok cool sounds great, prob just gona flick in the small buyin tonight but can I get permission for both for future weeks? S&L username is same as blonde - TL900 , thanks. Just added you to the list so you can enter any of Lil'Dave's and any Blonde pools. Go on... get in Lil'Dave's £100 pool! We've run five PL Darts pools so far (we missed the first week), and 4 of those 5 times a first timer has scooped Lil'Dave's pool. So you're odds on, right? Well done for winning the private Blonde pool Tom. But shame on you for not following my advice. If you'd have entered Lil'Dave's pool with the same selections you would have chopped it for a nice £760 win! Winning score was 60 in LD's pool and that was what you scored in the Blonde pool. You should have listened to me... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on March 20, 2014, 11:37:56 PM d'oh :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: scotty2hatty on March 20, 2014, 11:39:31 PM Ok cool sounds great, prob just gona flick in the small buyin tonight but can I get permission for both for future weeks? S&L username is same as blonde - TL900 , thanks. Just added you to the list so you can enter any of Lil'Dave's and any Blonde pools. Go on... get in Lil'Dave's £100 pool! We've run five PL Darts pools so far (we missed the first week), and 4 of those 5 times a first timer has scooped Lil'Dave's pool. So you're odds on, right? Well done for winning the private Blonde pool Tom. But shame on you for not following my advice. If you'd have entered Lil'Dave's pool with the same selections you would have chopped it for a nice £760 win! Winning score was 60 in LD's pool and that was what you scored in the Blonde pool. You should have listened to me... What rubs!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 20, 2014, 11:46:28 PM What rubs!!! Lol. IMO Tom deserves the rub-down for not following my advice ;) Besides that's what S&L is all about - rub-downs, bragging rights, gloating etc. I'm just bitter tbh - I've not won a pool in AGES... ;madasahatstand; ;reallyamsorry; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 27, 2014, 03:58:12 PM Thursday is PL Darts night. As usual, www.stakesandladders.com has a £5 private Blonde-only pool running, as well as the normal £1, £5 and £25 public pools.
Lil'Daves private £100 pool already has 14 runners in it. He's made it winner takes all again this week, so someone is going to scoop a hefty prize! If you are not already on the permission list for either the private Blonde pool or Lil'Dave's private pool and wish to enter either (or both) or them, let me know your S&L username and I will add you. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 27, 2014, 06:06:28 PM will post this in here as well as TFT.
Usual darts draw stuff tonight. Think a better way to attack it tonight is to back 'any game to be drawn' at 4/7 with Boyles. VC gone 4/9 about this. For 4/7 to be the correct price that implies the average draw price in each game should be 9/2. Maths as follows. Take the inverse price of the match not being a draw which is 2/9 then do this for all 5 games. 2/9 (1.22) to the power of 5 which comes out at 2.7 (effectively 7/4) there isn't a draw so 4/7 there is a draw is the opposite outcome obviously. I really think tonight's games are a lot closer than they look on paper esp the MVG and Taylor games. Lewis is also too short given his poor form so far in this current season. Recommend £70 at 4/7 on this at Boyles. Individual matches would recommend as follows: £50 Anderson v Wes Newton draw 9/2 VC £50 Whitlock v Newton draw 4/1 general £30 Lewis Chiz draw 4/1 general £30 Taylor v Barney draw 5/1 Coral Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on March 27, 2014, 07:36:20 PM What happens when you get relegated from Premier League Darts? Hasn't it mostly been the same players that come back year after year, think this year is the freshest i remember.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 27, 2014, 07:46:03 PM What happens when you get relegated from Premier League Darts? Hasn't it mostly been the same players that come back year after year, think this year is the freshest i remember. Nothing happens relating to next year. The bottom two simply don't compete in the remaining weeks and the rest of the league continues with 8 players like the league did in the early years with the top 4 going through to finals night at the o2 in May. Next year the top 4 in the world rankings qualify automatically and 6 other 'wildcards' are decided by the PDC and sky sports among others. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on March 27, 2014, 11:06:03 PM Arrboy I owe you a beer. The draws is such a fun sweat and I know we are on the righ side of variance the last two weeks but a real chance of a huge scoop this week for the people who put them in an acca.
Will add a jäger to that beer as well if there are good draw odds next week! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on March 27, 2014, 11:10:06 PM Arrboy I owe you a beer. The draws is such a fun sweat and I know we are on the righ side of variance the last two weeks but a real chance of a huge scoop this week for the people who put them in an acca. Will add a jäger to that beer as well if there are good draw odds next week! Just talking to him on Skype, and said I'd have owed him a night out in Vegas if the first match had been a draw :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on March 27, 2014, 11:29:42 PM Dubai is dipped in it. That is all.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on March 28, 2014, 12:50:29 AM They all had sweats on for a draw was good fun watching!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on March 28, 2014, 12:51:18 AM For someone him who likes a punt it's good fun supporting each player in each different leg!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on March 28, 2014, 07:24:42 AM I was one draw away from a £2k payout. I done all 5 in a lucky 31 and then done sparate 4 folds.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 28, 2014, 11:22:31 AM Early spot from next week's darts matches from the early moves. It's the final week before relegation of two players. Whitlock is gone for sure and one spot remains between Newton, Chiz and Thornton. An interesting 'bent' draw opportunity might arise here if Taylor beats Thornton then Chiz and Newton will both qualify for the final stages with the draw assuming the tie breaker for equal points is leg difference (wiki link below states this is the case but obviously this is not 100% trustworthy). I am not 100% sure on the order of play yet but obviously if Taylor/Thornton play first then this will affect the thinking of the other two.
Also I am pretty sure looking at the table that if Taylor and Thornton draw they will also both be safe as well whatever the Newton Chiz game ends. If Thornton beats Taylor then Newton can only stay up by beating Chiz and this will end up with Chiz being relegated. The market seems to have cottened onto the Chiz Newton draw as its been backed into 3/1. However the same situation seems to apply for the Taylor game as well. The only downside of Taylor playing for a draw is he is much more likely to be looking for a win for a top 4 finish than the other 3 players who, with all due respect, will just be happy to make the final 8 and pick up another round of appearance money from the second half of the season. Does anyone know where we can get a confirmed order of play for next week as order of play in these bets is important. This is the wiki link for the schedule. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Premier_League_Darts#3_April. No idea if this order of play is accurate. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: craigbetts on March 28, 2014, 04:34:10 PM Week Nine – Judgement Night
April 3, Motorpoint Arena, Cardiff Adrian Lewis v Raymond van Barneveld Phil Taylor v Robert Thornton Wes Newton v Dave Chisnall Gary Anderson v Peter Wright Michael van Gerwen v Simon Whitlock For the draw lover! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on March 28, 2014, 11:17:44 PM Hitting more crossbars this year than the mugs on Soccer AM :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on April 03, 2014, 06:02:48 PM PL Darts again tonight, and as usual www.stakesandladders.com have a private £5 Blonde-only pool plus Lil'Dave's private £100 pool running alongside our public pools.
Despite Lil'Dave and most of his degen crew being in Amsterdam on a messy one, we already have 8 entries to his pool. And Dave assures me there will be more entering as soon as they get their heads together... Anyone wanting to enter for the first time then let me know your S&L username and I will add you to the list. Highly recommended since Lil'Dave's pool has been won by a first time entrant every week but one so far... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: redarmi on April 03, 2014, 08:08:51 PM Where is Stu Hungers entry??? I'm not playing anymore if the value isn't there ;-)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on April 03, 2014, 08:45:42 PM Horrid darts tonight!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on April 03, 2014, 09:41:38 PM Where is Stu Hungers entry??? I'm not playing anymore if the value isn't there ;-) Ha ha! Had loads of family come round this afternoon/evening so wasn't able to enter. Don't worry, my dead money will be there next week. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on April 10, 2014, 06:32:23 PM Whats occuring tonight. Ive got plenty on the masters so dont want to be going in to hard tonight!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on April 17, 2014, 04:35:32 PM www.stakesandladders.com have put guarantees on tonight's public PL Darts pools. There is a chance of some overlays for those of you into snapping up value.
As usual Lil'Dave's private £100 darts pool is running. The last two weeks have been won by Blondes (redarmi and Bazzaboy) and the prize pool is usually pretty huge with around 15 entrants most weeks. So get in it if you fancy gambling with Dave and his degen pals. If you want to be added to the permission list for Lil'D's private pools then let me know your S&L username and I will add you in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2014, 06:49:44 PM Are Chisnall and Anderson really good friends, or am I misremembering?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 07:17:38 PM Are Chisnall and Anderson really good friends, or am I misremembering? Think Anderson is pally with everyone, isn't he? Never seen him have a cross word with anyone in all the time I've been watching. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2014, 07:18:03 PM I think Anderson is a lay tonight, but only if they aren't close friends.
Chisnall is really high scorer, doesn't seem to have eased off despite being unable to qualify and Anderson is notoriously fragile under pressure. And he really needs 2 points tonight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 07:18:13 PM Whats occuring tonight. Ive got plenty on the masters so dont want to be going in to hard tonight! Done a yankee on the draws to freeroll Vegas :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2014, 07:19:06 PM Are Chisnall and Anderson really good friends, or am I misremembering? Think Anderson is pally with everyone, isn't he? Never seen him have a cross word with anyone in all the time I've been watching. One of the players called Anderson his mentor. Can't remember if its Chisnall or Wright. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2014, 07:23:41 PM Rod Harrington is so depressing.
Nearly as bad as Martin Lewis. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 07:24:39 PM Are Chisnall and Anderson really good friends, or am I misremembering? Think Anderson is pally with everyone, isn't he? Never seen him have a cross word with anyone in all the time I've been watching. One of the players called Anderson his mentor. Can't remember if its Chisnall or Wright. At a guess I would say Wright, with him being 'Scottish'. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2014, 07:30:29 PM I think Anderson is a lay tonight, but only if they aren't close friends. Chisnall is really high scorer, doesn't seem to have eased off despite being unable to qualify and Anderson is notoriously fragile under pressure. And he really needs 2 points tonight. nappy factor in operation. Ando just had his first kid the other week. A son as well if you buy into the nappy factor. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 07:37:00 PM Doesn't Ando mentor Michael Smith?
Aslo on the draws. One time Marky! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2014, 07:42:27 PM Chizzy 0 180s through 6 legs.
Marv Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2014, 07:46:13 PM Greened out.
2 missed big numbers in a row. Do I not like that. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 07:48:07 PM Dodgy darts innit.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2014, 07:48:37 PM This is filthy.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 07:54:21 PM Bang goes the vegas dream in match 1.
I think Chizzy layed himself on the outright/180's and average. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2014, 08:07:43 PM The only time I've seen a pro miss two big numbers in a row was in a game I knew in advance was bent.
I don't need to tell you what I think of that Chisnall performance. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 08:34:12 PM Thornton won 2 floor events at the weekend... Does that mean everyone else was throwing from the floor?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 09:24:08 PM See that carry on that really pisses me off. Snakebite is a complete even although we get the draw.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on July 19, 2014, 01:01:33 PM With the World Matchplay starting today, www.stakesandladders.com have an overall tournament pool plus a first round pool open for joining now. Hopefully you'll have a spin in the pools as part of your darts punting.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: KitKeeper on July 19, 2014, 01:48:33 PM Have Anderson at 40/1 from a few months back.
You don't need to imagine my reaction when that draw came out. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 19, 2014, 01:50:52 PM The bottom quarter is brutal! I feel sorry for Caven. He has to beat 3 of the top 7 in the betting to reach the semis to then face Taylor and probably MVG in the final. He might as well have stayed at home.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 05:49:48 PM Wade to win his quarter at 9/4 seems a bet to me.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 19, 2014, 06:28:35 PM Wade to win his quarter at 9/4 seems a bet to me. I've backed this. Loves It here, in good nick and as Arbboy pointed out will be wanting to stick two fingers up after not being selected for the PL 14s outright fair as well Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on July 19, 2014, 07:13:25 PM Looking at bet 3*5 how can White to a smaller price than Jenkins to win the 1/4 but be a dog in the match?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on July 21, 2014, 07:59:14 PM I like Merv against Kim tonight at 11/8. I expected this to be more of a flip than the books.
Also backed Ando - 2.5 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 21, 2014, 09:55:25 PM Jackpot in decent nick
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2014, 09:57:58 PM why is that guy called 'goldfinger'? Played more like copperfinger!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on July 21, 2014, 10:03:35 PM why is that guy called 'goldfinger'? Played more like copperfinger! Initials are AG, so silversmith, silver tongue, silver shadow... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: flushthemout on July 21, 2014, 10:20:35 PM The bottom quarter is brutal! I feel sorry for Caven. He has to beat 3 of the top 7 in the betting to reach the semis to then face Taylor and probably MVG in the final. He might as well have stayed at home. I know Jamie very well, he is here to scoop a couple of bag and he is happy Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2014, 10:22:16 PM wish he would start playing like that is the case!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 21, 2014, 10:31:55 PM Looks like he is there for a couple scalps!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 21, 2014, 10:33:04 PM The bottom quarter is brutal! I feel sorry for Caven. He has to beat 3 of the top 7 in the betting to reach the semis to then face Taylor and probably MVG in the final. He might as well have stayed at home. I know Jamie very well, he is here to scoop a couple of bag and he is happy Ergo no pressure on him as nothing to lose. For someone like Caven that's probably not a bad mindset. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: flushthemout on July 21, 2014, 10:34:02 PM He got £6k already for last 32
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 21, 2014, 11:14:22 PM I like Burnett over 91.5 average @ 17/20 with Bwin. Averaged 95+ in his 3 games at the Worlds, admittedly 6 months ago but he threw in a 93.85 against Dolan in round 1 despite a slow start and Dolan being brutal on his doubles.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: George2Loose on July 21, 2014, 11:24:54 PM Bunting to win or too soon?
Can't get an outright market on betfair or much money matched Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: George2Loose on July 21, 2014, 11:27:03 PM Bunting to win or too soon? Can't get an outright market on betfair or much money matched Managed to get 44 quid on at 32 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2014, 11:28:58 PM Bunting to win or too soon? Can't get an outright market on betfair or much money matched Boyles gone 17/10 bunting for game against ando. too big if anyone can get on. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 21, 2014, 11:45:53 PM Bunting 5/2 to qualify for next years Premier League.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on July 22, 2014, 02:28:52 AM Bunting to win or too soon? Can't get an outright market on betfair or much money matched Boyles gone 17/10 bunting for game against ando. too big if anyone can get on. jesus thats big Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on July 22, 2014, 02:50:53 AM whitlock 11/8 v RVB any love?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on July 22, 2014, 03:25:01 AM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on July 23, 2014, 12:14:35 AM I absolutely despise RVB. I know that might sound strong but he is so inconsistent.
Each and every event I tell myself not to back any match he's involved in but how can you be 4 - 0 up and then just spaz out every throw from then on in. And why would you change your darts after you won your first match chucking 8 180's in the process. Obviously I am talking through my pocket but situations like this are so meh. And I never even backed him to win, that's the best of it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on July 23, 2014, 12:50:31 AM Where has snowball gone he seemed to be fairly active on these board and just noticed he was last active in May. He in the pokey?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 23, 2014, 12:54:31 AM Mate telling me he was gonna smash it, and I sad that the only thing I would back him to smash is an all you can eat buffet!
Too hot and cold for me, and I stopped backing him a while back, after getting burned one time too many. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on July 23, 2014, 05:05:29 PM Bunting 5/2 to qualify for next years Premier League. Love this bet. Where is it available please. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2014, 05:14:14 PM Bunting 5/2 to qualify for next years Premier League. Love this bet. Where is it available please. Few things to consider with this bet. He will have to get a wildcard to get in as there is no chance in hell he finishes the year in the top 4 of the order of merit. The top 4 in the order of merit will auto qualify (i think its the top 4) and it leaves 6 spots (assuming the format stays like 2014). Given the state of the current OOM i would imagine MVG Power and Lewis are locks for 3 of the auto spots. The 4th spot is wide open. Of the 6 wildcards the following are also virtual locks for various reasons (it's massively likely one of these 6 finishes 4th in the OOM as well). RVB (crowds love him), Ando and Thorn (both jocks to sell tickets in Scotland and to balance the nationalities plus they are both in the current top 10 in the OOM), Snakebite (crowd loved him last year and is playing well) Wade (because he missed out last year and was pissed off about it) Wizard (numerous years in prem league and also balances nationalities/sells the product to a different country). This pretty much leaves one spot left to fill. Chizz/Hamilton/Newton/Bunting/Dolan would be the only possibles imo outside of a massive shock finalist/winner of the World's which would give them a wildcard. 5/2 is big but i am not sure when you sit down and look at it it's a great price. The most likely 10 imo would be as follows MVG Power These 4 are total 100% locks imo Lewis Barney Whitlock Ando Thorn Snakebite Wade Chizz Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on July 23, 2014, 07:29:43 PM Agree with all this ^ thought Chizz was a good addition even though I did my conkers betting and opposing him this year :D Newton drawing dead to get in imo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2014, 07:44:42 PM newton getting in last year makes me think it was the top 6 which auto get in. There is no way he would have got in without being top 6. Sure he was 6th in the OOM last year throguh grinding the weekend donkfests and a few deep runs without winning anything and getting close to winning anything. If its the top 6 auto go through Bunting is a massive price to get in imo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 23, 2014, 07:47:42 PM Bunting 5/2 to qualify for next years Premier League. Love this bet. Where is it available please. Few things to consider with this bet. He will have to get a wildcard to get in as there is no chance in hell he finishes the year in the top 4 of the order of merit. The top 4 in the order of merit will auto qualify (i think its the top 4) and it leaves 6 spots (assuming the format stays like 2014). Given the state of the current OOM i would imagine MVG Power and Lewis are locks for 3 of the auto spots. The 4th spot is wide open. Of the 6 wildcards the following are also virtual locks for various reasons (it's massively likely one of these 6 finishes 4th in the OOM as well). RVB (crowds love him), Ando and Thorn (both jocks to sell tickets in Scotland and to balance the nationalities plus they are both in the current top 10 in the OOM), Snakebite (crowd loved him last year and is playing well) Wade (because he missed out last year and was pissed off about it) Wizard (numerous years in prem league and also balances nationalities/sells the product to a different country). This pretty much leaves one spot left to fill. Chizz/Hamilton/Newton/Bunting/Dolan would be the only possibles imo outside of a massive shock finalist/winner of the World's which would give them a wildcard. 5/2 is big but i am not sure when you sit down and look at it it's a great price. The most likely 10 imo would be as follows MVG Power These 4 are total 100% locks imo Lewis Barney Whitlock Ando Thorn Snakebite Wade Chizz Not sure they need Thornton when they already have Anderson and Snakebite. Only way Thornton makes it is on merit (ie winning a major or deep in WC). If last years wildcards are anything to go by then PDC will select on merit (they selected next 4 in the rankings with exception of Wade due to other reasons). Sky then picked the two biggest names. Given Barney is the reigning champion he should surely get a PDC wildcard. Also a possibility Anderson continues his climb up the rankings and gets a PDC wildcard. That means we have one, possibly two Sky wildcards up for grabs and provided Bunting goes deep in at least one major then I think he is very likely to pick up a Sky wildcard. I like the 5/2 but I also rate Bullet more than most. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2014, 07:50:15 PM if they select on the OOM bunting is a million to get in. Not literally a million but i will happily lay anyone 5/2!!!! ~For me he is very like newton. Boring, english, fat, ugly, scouse. He is going to have to get in on his darting ability. He isn't going to get any wild cards without earning them.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on July 23, 2014, 08:01:08 PM Where has snowball gone he seemed to be fairly active on these board and just noticed he was last active in May. He in the pokey? Nothing as dramatic as that, he's just given up punting. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 23, 2014, 08:06:57 PM if they select on the OOM bunting is a million to get in. Not literally a million but i will happily lay anyone 5/2!!!! ~For me he is very like newton. Boring, english, fat, ugly, scouse. He is going to have to get in on his darting ability. He isn't going to get any wild cards without earning them. World Champion, quick thrower, big 180 hitter. He brings a lot more to the table than Newton. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2014, 08:08:41 PM if they select on the OOM bunting is a million to get in. Not literally a million but i will happily lay anyone 5/2!!!! ~For me he is very like newton. Boring, english, fat, ugly, scouse. He is going to have to get in on his darting ability. He isn't going to get any wild cards without earning them. World Champion, quick thrower, big 180 hitter. He brings a lot more to the table than Newton. Richie burnett brings all that as well. Klasson as well. LOLZZZZZ Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2014, 08:10:05 PM joking aside newton is a joke to get into the prem league. Which makes me think it must be the top 6 who get auto entry and not 4.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 23, 2014, 08:18:24 PM joking aside newton is a joke to get into the prem league. Which makes me think it must be the top 6 who get auto entry and not 4. [/quote Top 4 in OOM 4 PDC Wildcards 2 Sky Wildcards Agree that Newton was a joke selection but he definitely got a PDC wildcard. There was plenty of comment on this thread regarding it at the time. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2014, 08:30:32 PM ok cheers bazza. Makes the 5/2 an awful bet then. Bunting would have to win a TV major to get in surely next year?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 23, 2014, 09:05:25 PM ok cheers bazza. Makes the 5/2 an awful bet then. Bunting would have to win a TV major to get in surely next year? I really don't think he has to do that. Time will tell though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2014, 09:11:36 PM ok cheers bazza. Makes the 5/2 an awful bet then. Bunting would have to win a TV major to get in surely next year? I really don't think he has to do that. Time will tell though. It's the only reason Thorn and Painter got in. Bunting will be in the same spot as them rankings wise. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 23, 2014, 09:42:27 PM He is a million if he keeps playing like this mind you.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on July 23, 2014, 09:46:40 PM OHHHHHHHHHHHH GARY GARYYYYYYYYY
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2014, 09:52:25 PM he heard the chippy closes early on the sea front on a weds and is getting on with it after the slogfest of the first game.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 24, 2014, 10:07:02 AM Going on Friday for the quarters. It's Taylor vs Newton and Anderson vs Lewis.
Not a big sports bettor but would like a couple of 'interest' bets while I'm drinking my bodyweight in lager. Any suggestions? Taylor vs the local lad is a dream tie really, and I'm a big Lewis fan so happy with the matches I got! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 24, 2014, 10:43:25 AM Going on Friday for the quarters. It's Taylor vs Newton and Anderson vs Lewis. Not a big sports bettor but would like a couple of 'interest' bets while I'm drinking my bodyweight in lager. Any suggestions? Taylor vs the local lad is a dream tie really, and I'm a big Lewis fan so happy with the matches I got! have you been before? If not, wear something very cool as it will be baking hot in there with the current weather. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on July 24, 2014, 11:28:09 AM Pools for the Quarter Final are now open for joining at www.stakesandladders.com. Is Bazzaboy gonna scoop all the money as usual, or is anyone going to stop him?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on July 24, 2014, 12:24:49 PM joking aside newton is a joke to get into the prem league. Which makes me think it must be the top 6 who get auto entry and not 4. [/quote Top 4 in OOM 4 PDC Wildcards 2 Sky Wildcards Agree that Newton was a joke selection but he definitely got a PDC wildcard. There was plenty of comment on this thread regarding it at the time. Having watched the Bunting matches I cannot believe he would get 1 of the 2 Sky Wildcards even if he goes deep in the Worlds. It was like the commentators were on message to over play the gap between the BDO and PDC - I now can't see him getting a place as Sky are intent on proving a skills gap between their top 16 and the BDO. Choosing a ex BDO player in his first year for the weekly PDC event just seems a big ask. After another year they can sell the PDC improves another ex BDO player etc etc. I do think he will make the top 8 in fairly short order, I think he has a good temperament and obviously has some heavy scoring ability. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 24, 2014, 04:21:34 PM Bunting in to 6/4 to make the PL. 1/2 not to make it.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 24, 2014, 04:23:33 PM link please
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 24, 2014, 04:32:44 PM link please On phone so can't link. It's with BV under Darts Specials > Tournament Specials > PDC Enhanced Specials Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 24, 2014, 07:11:03 PM Going on Friday for the quarters. It's Taylor vs Newton and Anderson vs Lewis. Not a big sports bettor but would like a couple of 'interest' bets while I'm drinking my bodyweight in lager. Any suggestions? Taylor vs the local lad is a dream tie really, and I'm a big Lewis fan so happy with the matches I got! have you been before? If not, wear something very cool as it will be baking hot in there with the current weather. Yeah, been a few times. Always one of the best night's out of the year. Any bet suggestions for me? Like a bit of interest on the night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 26, 2014, 12:27:39 PM Got a sore head today, epic night.
Backed Taylor 16-6 as well. BINK! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 01:19:02 PM Got a sore head today, epic night. Backed Taylor 16-6 as well. BINK! :)up Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: scotty2hatty on July 26, 2014, 03:08:58 PM Got a sore head today, epic night. Backed Taylor 16-6 as well. BINK! :)up Adz appreciating the aftertiming. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 26, 2014, 10:16:24 PM Dreamboy looking the real deal for the first time in a long time.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 26, 2014, 10:23:14 PM quality bok! Same old ando choking when it matters.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 26, 2014, 10:30:02 PM quality bok! Same old ando choking when it matters. Yeah textbook. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 26, 2014, 10:54:12 PM So much talent. So little to show for it.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 26, 2014, 10:59:22 PM I think Ando made a very fair point there that he always seems to run into a 105+ average Taylor when he averages 105 etc etc. Wade and MVG have won their titles (esp wade - who has never beaten Taylor to win any of his PDC events) when the power has been off generally. There is no doubting Ando is mentally weak at key times. There is a reason why Taylor said he loves ando after the game. He has him mentally right where he wants him. Another masterclass of mind games from Taylor in the post match interview to slowly grind ando in the dust like he has so many others over the years.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 26, 2014, 11:01:44 PM Not overly convinced i make the power jolly tomorrow though. Thoughts bazza?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 11:11:41 PM Got a sore head today, epic night. Backed Taylor 16-6 as well. BINK! :)up Adz appreciating the aftertiming. No, just a fellow punter winning. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 26, 2014, 11:35:14 PM Not overly convinced i make the power jolly tomorrow though. Thoughts bazza? Pick 'em for me. Power will be more consistent but MVG has an extra gear in the locker that will win him legs. He also isn't scared of winning (unlike Anderson) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on September 21, 2014, 09:16:17 PM Follow Dave Whorley on twitter, pretty decent darts bloke who follows all of it, just tweeted that Martin Phillips will be single figures for BDO worlds when it comes around, most top players not performing. Currently 25-1 with Shy. Just putting it out there.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on September 21, 2014, 09:21:23 PM Dave is a top man met him a few months back
Managed to snaffle some 40's with spoils when i first saw his tweet He and a few other judges think single figures come the event Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on September 21, 2014, 09:24:25 PM Dave is a top man met him a few months back Managed to snaffle some 40's with spoils when i first saw his tweet He and a few other judges think single figures come the event Yeah saw that but boyles let my custom go long ago. Happy with 25's especially on his advice. Good luck us. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on September 21, 2014, 09:43:07 PM Dave is a top man met him a few months back Managed to snaffle some 40's with spoils when i first saw his tweet He and a few other judges think single figures come the event Yeah saw that but boyles let my custom go long ago. Happy with 25's especially on his advice. Good luck us. Although seen abit of him on Eurosport, suppose we can all have a bad game now and then Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: OverTheBorder on October 08, 2014, 09:49:39 PM Not a bad game this Wade vs Thornton, just the two 9 darters...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 08, 2014, 10:06:08 PM Gonna have to chuck our lass cause she wouldnt let me watch it
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on October 08, 2014, 10:06:58 PM Wow. That was unbelievable.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: OverTheBorder on October 08, 2014, 10:48:50 PM Gonna have to chuck our lass cause she wouldnt let me watch it Yeah, it's never going to work after she does that to you Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on October 09, 2014, 12:18:13 AM Where has Snowball disappeared to?
Not logged on for 6 months. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on October 09, 2014, 07:49:45 AM Where has Snowball disappeared to? Not logged on for 6 months. might be wrong have half a memory he was taking a break from punting Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 09, 2014, 11:12:37 AM Thoughts on Phil last night?
I'm on him outright but he didn't fill me with confidence with that performance, if the other fella could have doubled in on the two important legs to give Phil some pressure it may have been a different story, I don't think the score done the game justice, could easily have been a 3-2. Saving grace I suppose is that he always seems to do enough on the night to beat his opponent, I'm sure if James has had a few vodka's then it will be a cracking match. Love the format. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 09, 2014, 11:14:22 AM From a betting point of view I've played the correct score market on both sides for 3-2 where the matches are close in the betting, came of last night as it was the first to matches that I bet and they came in. Doing the same tonight but throwing in a couple of doubles as well on the first two matches.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on October 09, 2014, 12:14:57 PM Where has Snowball disappeared to? Not logged on for 6 months. might be wrong have half a memory he was taking a break from punting Yeah I asked this and Teacake said he was giving up punting. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 09, 2014, 08:43:56 PM From a betting point of view I've played the correct score market on both sides for 3-2 where the matches are close in the betting, came of last night as it was the first to matches that I bet and they came in. Doing the same tonight but throwing in a couple of doubles as well on the first two matches. Very impressed with Bunting under pressure there, many a player would have cracked after missing the first 130. Hopefully he can play like that at the worlds. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 09, 2014, 08:49:32 PM From a betting point of view I've played the correct score market on both sides for 3-2 where the matches are close in the betting, came of last night as it was the first to matches that I bet and they came in. Doing the same tonight but throwing in a couple of doubles as well on the first two matches. Very impressed with Bunting under pressure there, many a player would have cracked after missing the first 130. Hopefully he can play like that at the worlds. He is top top quality. He just lacks a bit of consistency but he put in some brilliant darts at key times in that match and the finish was different class. A lot of players would have lost their head after busting 130 the first time. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 10, 2014, 08:39:10 PM From a betting point of view I've played the correct score market on both sides for 3-2 where the matches are close in the betting, came of last night as it was the first to matches that I bet and they came in. Doing the same tonight but throwing in a couple of doubles as well on the first two matches. Very impressed with Bunting under pressure there, many a player would have cracked after missing the first 130. Hopefully he can play like that at the worlds. He is top top quality. He just lacks a bit of consistency but he put in some brilliant darts at key times in that match and the finish was different class. A lot of players would have lost their head after busting 130 the first time. Burnett crashed and burned in that last leg, however your right Bunting has something about him, he keeps his cool under pressure, doesn't seem to let anything upset him, got the makings of a Winner. Had a ew play on him earlier at 12-1 and Burnetts meltdown just shows anything can happen in this tournament. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 10, 2014, 09:42:18 PM From a betting point of view I've played the correct score market on both sides for 3-2 where the matches are close in the betting, came of last night as it was the first to matches that I bet and they came in. Doing the same tonight but throwing in a couple of doubles as well on the first two matches. Very impressed with Bunting under pressure there, many a player would have cracked after missing the first 130. Hopefully he can play like that at the worlds. He is top top quality. He just lacks a bit of consistency but he put in some brilliant darts at key times in that match and the finish was different class. A lot of players would have lost their head after busting 130 the first time. Burnett crashed and burned in that last leg, however your right Bunting has something about him, he keeps his cool under pressure, doesn't seem to let anything upset him, got the makings of a Winner. Had a ew play on him earlier at 12-1 and Burnetts meltdown just shows anything can happen in this tournament. Must be getting close to a lock for the PL given the lack of form from any of the other likely wildcards. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 10, 2014, 10:20:41 PM I think Phil looks really uninterested in this and wouldn't surprise me if Wade beats him and he then retires.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2014, 10:30:15 PM I think Phil looks really uninterested in this and wouldn't surprise me if Wade beats him and he then retires. He always gets that sour look on his boat when he's losing though, and then once he starts winning it's all smiles. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 10, 2014, 10:32:52 PM I think Phil looks really uninterested in this and wouldn't surprise me if Wade beats him and he then retires. Will lay u a massive price taylor retires in Ireland! I don't think he will ever retire. He loves the money too much. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 10, 2014, 10:40:32 PM I think Phil looks really uninterested in this and wouldn't surprise me if Wade beats him and he then retires. Will lay u a massive price taylor retires in Ireland! I don't think he will ever retire. He loves the money too much. Haha, always an angle Arbboy!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 10, 2014, 10:54:43 PM Sigh. I was all over Wade at the Matchplay and he bombed after being in great nick beforehand. Obv nothing on him here.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 10, 2014, 10:56:29 PM Sigh. I was all over Wade at the Matchplay and he bombed after being in great nick beforehand. Obv nothing on him here. Knew Taylor wasn't up for this, ante post bombs, just need Bunting or M vG to get to the final for money back. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2014, 11:35:45 PM This is a good match.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 10, 2014, 11:37:33 PM This is a good match. thought you were playing marky!! Your two darting lookalikes! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2014, 09:57:56 AM This is a good match. thought you were playing marky!! Your two darting lookalikes! :D Poor him... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 11, 2014, 11:12:40 AM Glad to see MVG and Bunting in the semi, shame it's against each other but at least I'm looking at a return for one of them getting to the final.
Does anyone else like the 11/8 +1.5 Bunting on the handicap? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 11, 2014, 09:02:47 PM Standard Anderson.
Bunting's average line is a couple of points too low imo. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2014, 09:07:11 PM Wade becoming a lot more likeable now, and it's normally when people are getting bashed up that you feel that way...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on October 13, 2014, 08:08:58 AM Follow Dave Whorley on twitter, pretty decent darts bloke who follows all of it, just tweeted that Martin Phillips will be single figures for BDO worlds when it comes around, most top players not performing. Currently 25-1 with Shy. Just putting it out there. Philips just won the Winmau Masters, sb still have him at 18-1 for worlds, other quote at 8-1. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on December 09, 2014, 12:03:14 PM Getting very excited now . . . . .
Spreadsheet for the Worlds Draw if anyone interested https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QmDVtSlkrLpS3AOX_PVd9gDelGToIyZnW9zaRfAEkGE/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QmDVtSlkrLpS3AOX_PVd9gDelGToIyZnW9zaRfAEkGE/edit?usp=sharing) Oddschecker main page http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship (http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship) Bottom quarter is tough - Bunting/Wade/RvB/Lewis/Brown will have to show there strength to reach the quarters. The Blue livery is just going to be weird - anyone know how much Coral have paid for the new sponsership deal? Tips anyone? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 10, 2014, 02:14:54 AM We could a scotty style sweepstake.
Pick a player from each qtr to go the furthest. Who will be first to get a nine darter. Pick 3 of the top 32 who will lose in the first round. Who will get most 180s in the tournament etc etc Any interest? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 10, 2014, 02:21:22 AM ye in
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 10, 2014, 06:52:17 AM We could a scotty style sweepstake. Pick a player from each qtr to go the furthest. Who will be first to get a nine darter. Pick 3 of the top 32 who will lose in the first round. Who will get most 180s in the tournament etc etc Any interest? If we could rustle up someone to organise & run it, & the entry fee was "sensible", yeah, count me in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on December 10, 2014, 07:29:05 AM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 10, 2014, 03:03:08 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: ForthThistle on December 10, 2014, 03:13:52 PM In.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 10, 2014, 05:35:50 PM In (couldn't organise my own sock drawer so must defer to others on that)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 10, 2014, 05:52:52 PM Any suggestions for a few additional questions?
I don't mind running it as long as it doesn't get too complicated to update. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: ForthThistle on December 10, 2014, 05:55:11 PM Don't mind doing the spreadsheet stuff and updates to the Thread.
If someone takes the money I can do the rest. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Honeybadger on December 15, 2014, 06:50:59 PM Hi guys,
We have a Pick 7 fantasy pool for the Darts at www.stakesandladders.com. It's £1 to enter, and we have guaranteed the prize fund at £500. So you can win big for a quid. Create your team by picking a player from each of the 7 categories, and score points based on how well each of your selections does. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 15, 2014, 07:00:04 PM Sb have got a price boost on MVG/Taylor final, currently 9/2, best elsewhere is 7/2 and no direct bf market but the bf market for them both to reach the final is 1.91 and 2.3 so seems abit of value to me.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2014, 11:10:01 AM Coral have got MVG at 3/1 for a max of £25. 3.8 on bf.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on December 18, 2014, 11:26:26 AM Coral have got MVG at 3/1 for a max of £25. 3.8 on bf. Also doing 10/1 Taylor for new customers phone or Internet - today only Max bet £10 I believe. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2014, 03:43:20 PM Betvic have got a darts app (obvs to try and get you betting with them) however it has all stats and score/matches for the PDC Worlds and they may even throw in some special price boosts. Worth getting to add to the amourary.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DungBeetle on December 18, 2014, 08:05:13 PM Righto - sold total tournament 180s on the murmurings on TFT thread. Not going to be able to keep up to date with this till Tuesday as I'm on some works trip - can someone update the thread once every once in a blue moon and let me know if I am doing my stones? Don't think the darts will be shown in Switzerland! Sold at 594.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2014, 08:42:31 PM Not a bad first game to start the championship off, Brown seems pretty decent even if he finds it hard to find the finish line.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 18, 2014, 08:51:40 PM Righto - sold total tournament 180s on the murmurings on TFT thread. Not going to be able to keep up to date with this till Tuesday as I'm on some works trip - can someone update the thread once every once in a blue moon and let me know if I am doing my stones? Don't think the darts will be shown in Switzerland! Sold at 594. I won't get to watch all that much of it early on, but I'll try to remember when I am. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DungBeetle on December 18, 2014, 09:05:38 PM That Reyes chat looks a bit handy!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 09:09:07 PM looked deece didn't he.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DungBeetle on December 18, 2014, 09:10:54 PM Playing Wes later on I think.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2014, 09:51:42 PM Darts crowd used to be great.
Just annoying now. "We pay your benefits" wtf? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 09:59:23 PM Darts crowd used to be great. Just annoying now. "We pay your benefits" wtf? That and "you can't afford a table" so tilting. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 10:00:37 PM Reyes worth a smal punt at 3/1? as stated above he looked decent for thse 4 legs he played earlier. But qualifiers seem to be pretty meh when they get on the big stage and play set play.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 18, 2014, 10:32:10 PM its getting to me already that every time MVG gets the first 180, Mardle pipes up "this is a real possibility", queue missing the next 60.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DungBeetle on December 18, 2014, 10:36:23 PM Cullen temperament terrible - dreadful in both deciding legs when playing really well in the others.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 18, 2014, 10:43:16 PM Reyes has the darts in the.last match fwiw
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 18, 2014, 10:46:45 PM its getting to me already that every time MVG gets the first 180, Mardle pipes up "this is a real possibility", queue missing the next 60. That's why he does it. I've had a word. We don't want too many maximums, thank you. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 11:35:08 PM Wtf is going on here?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 18, 2014, 11:35:55 PM how can Wes Newton make a living from darts? amazes me everytime i watch him.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 11:39:19 PM how can Wes Newton make a living from darts? amazes me everytime i watch him. I'd fancy my chances against him tbf. I need Wes to get a set though for the Tungston Treble. I still win on night if he doesn't but this would be a sweet end to the night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2014, 11:54:32 PM I miss Sid Waddell so much.
These other tossers just leaf their way through the "Compendium Of Darts Cliches" every match "You can't buy experience" - Newton misses 3 darts at a double "Newton has all the momentum now" - Reyes gets a 180 next visit "If this goes 2 sets all there's only going to be one winner" - instead of the two winners of there usually are? Just go forth and multiply. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 12:02:28 AM I miss Sid Waddell so much. These other tossers just leaf their way through the "Compendium Of Darts Cliches" every match "You can't buy experience" - Newton misses 3 darts at a double "Newton has all the momentum now" - Reyes gets a 180 next visit "If this goes 2 sets all there's only going to be one winner" - instead of the two winners of there usually are? Just go forth and multiply. + 1 Harrington especially so, really irks me. I'd stick Fred and Fry in the box ahead of these idiots and bring Mason over from ITV as the Darts man. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:04:42 AM I miss Sid Waddell so much. These other tossers just leaf their way through the "Compendium Of Darts Cliches" every match "You can't buy experience" - Newton misses 3 darts at a double "Newton has all the momentum now" - Reyes gets a 180 next visit "If this goes 2 sets all there's only going to be one winner" - instead of the two winners of there usually are? Just go forth and multiply. + 1 Harrington especially so, really irks me. I'd stick Fred and Fry in the box ahead of these idiots and bring Mason over from ITV as the Darts man. I don't mind Mardle. The others all do my head in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:05:17 AM They are comparing this to Smith beating Taylor.
Just LOL. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 19, 2014, 12:10:51 AM ye i like Mardle too, others are v poor.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:11:28 AM I miss Sid Waddell so much. These other tossers just leaf their way through the "Compendium Of Darts Cliches" every match "You can't buy experience" - Newton misses 3 darts at a double "Newton has all the momentum now" - Reyes gets a 180 next visit "If this goes 2 sets all there's only going to be one winner" - instead of the two winners of there usually are? Just go forth and multiply. + 1 Harrington especially so, really irks me. I'd stick Fred and Fry in the box ahead of these idiots and bring Mason over from ITV as the Darts man. I don't mind Mardle. The others all do my head in. Every single bloody time a player is at the oche and needs 140-170 but his opponent needs 170-210 Harrington says "he has six darts from here" Like we cannot work it out. Argh Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:14:23 AM "Impressed with the way Newton has held on here"
Newton has been woeful. What game is he watching? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 12:22:12 AM Mardle isn't bad until he's tied in with one of the others.
What a farce to end this though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:24:49 AM Mardle isn't bad until he's tied in with one of the others. What a farce to end this though. Hats off to Reyes, but Newton is a disgrace. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:27:02 AM Reyes being forced to throw again after he hit a 25 was unbelieveable.
Very poor sportmanship from Newton, he should have let that throw stand. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 19, 2014, 12:27:47 AM dont know the guy. dont have a problem with him. but thank god he wont be in prem league this year.
how much of a farce was that ending. even my gran knows its bull for throw in decider. well played spanish dude Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 19, 2014, 12:28:22 AM weeeeee
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 19, 2014, 12:29:09 AM Mardle is the worst of the lot by a distance imo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on December 19, 2014, 12:41:24 AM Get John Gwynne back on
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:45:14 AM Get John Gwynne back on Gawd no. He was even worse. Reincarnation of Sid is the only hope. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: engy on December 19, 2014, 01:04:14 AM Get John Gwynne back on Gawd no. He was even worse. Reincarnation of Sid is the only hope. +1 don't think they will ever get anyone to replace sid, he made the darts 100 times better to watch Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: redarmi on December 19, 2014, 01:45:54 AM They were all appalling tonight. So much of what they say is just wrong especially when it comes to stuff like "x is a favourite from here"
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 01:53:47 AM John Part is just about ok.
Thank God he can hardly throw a dart straight these days, means less of Harrington and Bristow in the studio. Harrington is absolutely the worst. Completely clueless. A party from Star Lzard had a hospitality night at the darts and Harrington was there to give them betting advice. You could not make it up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 08:40:37 AM John Part is just about ok. Thank God he can hardly throw a dart straight these days, means less of Harrington and Bristow in the studio. Harrington is absolutely the worst. Completely clueless. A party from Star Lzard had a hospitality night at the darts and Harrington was there to give them betting advice. You could not make it up. Ha!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 19, 2014, 08:58:46 AM The itv boys are quite good
Harrington describing both players odds as "good value" is always a belter Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 09:05:13 AM Darts is, IMO, probably the most difficult sport to commentate on
- People know the first 6-12 darts are aimed at 60, 57 and 54 - People can hear the caller do the arithmetic for them (the louder and longer the better) - When it comes to a checkout, the series appears in the bottom right, so people can follow that) - The camera generally focuses on the bit they're aiming at, so, like golf, it's either in or out - Unlike golf, there are no conditions to tell us about that we can't see - It's quickly repetitive, so, twenty legs into the night, saying things that are new is tricky - In the PDC era especially, there is a pressure to fill the silences with hugely enthusiastic noises (if you've ever been to watch the darts - sober - it's really quite boring as you get very little of the above, can't see anything and there's no one telling you what's going on so you end up watching on a telly without the commentary and standing up for the ad break song). It's not like in, say, tennis or snooker, where you can allow the audience to enjoy the sport for a bit. It's bright lights, blaring music, skimpily clad, overly made-up walk-on girls, big, sweaty blokes in massive, flowery shirts and a fancy-dressed audience absolutely off their faces on lager. The commentators have to follow suit. Sid Waddell was unique, but, as he was in pool, he had a wingman to fill in with the more on-message stuff. I like Mardle, personally, and whilst I'm not a huge fan of the rest particularly, I do have some sympathy for them. I think they're in a difficult position, where the ghost of a great still walks the halls. I'm pleased none of them has tried to fill the gap and that's what Mardle does pretty well: it's a Mardle Korma to the Waddell Phaal, that's designed to taste like a curry but is obviously designed to be different, too. Out of interest, if you could take any commentator from any sport and train them in the technical aspects of darts, who would you have on sky tonight? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 19, 2014, 09:10:00 AM Andy townsend
As it would mean he would be unavailable for itv football Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2014, 09:26:41 AM Darts is, IMO, probably the most difficult sport to commentate on - People know the first 6-12 darts are aimed at 60, 57 and 54 - People can hear the caller do the arithmetic for them (the louder and longer the better) - When it comes to a checkout, the series appears in the bottom right, so people can follow that) - The camera generally focuses on the bit they're aiming at, so, like golf, it's either in or out - Unlike golf, there are no conditions to tell us about that we can't see - It's quickly repetitive, so, twenty legs into the night, saying things that are new is tricky - In the PDC era especially, there is a pressure to fill the silences with hugely enthusiastic noises (if you've ever been to watch the darts - sober - it's really quite boring as you get very little of the above, can't see anything and there's no one telling you what's going on so you end up watching on a telly without the commentary and standing up for the ad break song). It's not like in, say, tennis or snooker, where you can allow the audience to enjoy the sport for a bit. It's bright lights, blaring music, skimpily clad, overly made-up walk-on girls, big, sweaty blokes in massive, flowery shirts and a fancy-dressed audience absolutely off their faces on lager. The commentators have to follow suit. Sid Waddell was unique, but, as he was in pool, he had a wingman to fill in with the more on-message stuff. I like Mardle, personally, and whilst I'm not a huge fan of the rest particularly, I do have some sympathy for them. I think they're in a difficult position, where the ghost of a great still walks the halls. I'm pleased none of them has tried to fill the gap and that's what Mardle does pretty well: it's a Mardle Korma to the Waddell Phaal, that's designed to taste like a curry but is obviously designed to be different, too. Out of interest, if you could take any commentator from any sport and train them in the technical aspects of darts, who would you have on sky tonight? That's a great Post, Tal. Everyone was moaning about everyone last night. We really are a difficult audience to please, as we sit at home in our comfy armchairs, complete with rear-view mirrors, telling all & sundry how shite they are. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2014, 09:27:30 AM Andy townsend As it would mean he would be unavailable for itv football John! I should not have laughed, I've got a right mardy on this morning, but I did. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 19, 2014, 09:46:47 AM Darts is, IMO, probably the most difficult sport to commentate on - People know the first 6-12 darts are aimed at 60, 57 and 54 - People can hear the caller do the arithmetic for them (the louder and longer the better) - When it comes to a checkout, the series appears in the bottom right, so people can follow that) - The camera generally focuses on the bit they're aiming at, so, like golf, it's either in or out - Unlike golf, there are no conditions to tell us about that we can't see - It's quickly repetitive, so, twenty legs into the night, saying things that are new is tricky - In the PDC era especially, there is a pressure to fill the silences with hugely enthusiastic noises (if you've ever been to watch the darts - sober - it's really quite boring as you get very little of the above, can't see anything and there's no one telling you what's going on so you end up watching on a telly without the commentary and standing up for the ad break song). It's not like in, say, tennis or snooker, where you can allow the audience to enjoy the sport for a bit. It's bright lights, blaring music, skimpily clad, overly made-up walk-on girls, big, sweaty blokes in massive, flowery shirts and a fancy-dressed audience absolutely off their faces on lager. The commentators have to follow suit. Sid Waddell was unique, but, as he was in pool, he had a wingman to fill in with the more on-message stuff. I like Mardle, personally, and whilst I'm not a huge fan of the rest particularly, I do have some sympathy for them. I think they're in a difficult position, where the ghost of a great still walks the halls. I'm pleased none of them has tried to fill the gap and that's what Mardle does pretty well: it's a Mardle Korma to the Waddell Phaal, that's designed to taste like a curry but is obviously designed to be different, too. Out of interest, if you could take any commentator from any sport and train them in the technical aspects of darts, who would you have on sky tonight? That's a great Post, Tal. Everyone was moaning about everyone last night. We really are a difficult audience to please, as we sit at home in our comfy armchairs, complete with rear-view mirrors, telling all & sundry how shite they are. Ditto, great post Tal. Grandpa has obviously got the hump, maybe it's close to the mark for what he has to put up with when doing his show, with Orford or course! Probably is a tough gig, as you say, quite repetitive and goes at lightning speed. However someone mentioned it the other day about football, we can obviously see what's going on and certainly do not need to be told that a nine darter is on, however surely they could bring a different aspect to the show, using their experience as a player to enhance our experience not just tell us what we can see. Don't know, maybe it's all part of the experience and as ever if we didn't have something to moan about we wouldn't be happy. Still great to watch, how many "Sports" has a man mammoth like John Part as a three time work champ, although I'm sure he was thinner when he won. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 19, 2014, 10:06:27 AM Thank god the commentators have stopped banging on about how its a younger mans sport and darts players are now fit and highly tuned athletes like they were circa the mid 2000's. Glad its back to being a fat lager swilling man's sport where the bigger the kite the better the arra chucker.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2014, 10:08:22 AM Darts is, IMO, probably the most difficult sport to commentate on - People know the first 6-12 darts are aimed at 60, 57 and 54 - People can hear the caller do the arithmetic for them (the louder and longer the better) - When it comes to a checkout, the series appears in the bottom right, so people can follow that) - The camera generally focuses on the bit they're aiming at, so, like golf, it's either in or out - Unlike golf, there are no conditions to tell us about that we can't see - It's quickly repetitive, so, twenty legs into the night, saying things that are new is tricky - In the PDC era especially, there is a pressure to fill the silences with hugely enthusiastic noises (if you've ever been to watch the darts - sober - it's really quite boring as you get very little of the above, can't see anything and there's no one telling you what's going on so you end up watching on a telly without the commentary and standing up for the ad break song). It's not like in, say, tennis or snooker, where you can allow the audience to enjoy the sport for a bit. It's bright lights, blaring music, skimpily clad, overly made-up walk-on girls, big, sweaty blokes in massive, flowery shirts and a fancy-dressed audience absolutely off their faces on lager. The commentators have to follow suit. Sid Waddell was unique, but, as he was in pool, he had a wingman to fill in with the more on-message stuff. I like Mardle, personally, and whilst I'm not a huge fan of the rest particularly, I do have some sympathy for them. I think they're in a difficult position, where the ghost of a great still walks the halls. I'm pleased none of them has tried to fill the gap and that's what Mardle does pretty well: it's a Mardle Korma to the Waddell Phaal, that's designed to taste like a curry but is obviously designed to be different, too. Out of interest, if you could take any commentator from any sport and train them in the technical aspects of darts, who would you have on sky tonight? That's a great Post, Tal. Everyone was moaning about everyone last night. We really are a difficult audience to please, as we sit at home in our comfy armchairs, complete with rear-view mirrors, telling all & sundry how shite they are. Ditto, great post Tal. Grandpa has obviously got the hump, maybe it's close to the mark for what he has to put up with when doing his show, with Orford or course! Probably is a tough gig, as you say, quite repetitive and goes at lightning speed. However someone mentioned it the other day about football, we can obviously see what's going on and certainly do not need to be told that a nine darter is on, however surely they could bring a different aspect to the show, using their experience as a player to enhance our experience not just tell us what we can see. Don't know, maybe it's all part of the experience and as ever if we didn't have something to moan about we wouldn't be happy. Still great to watch, how many "Sports" has a man mammoth like John Part as a three time work champ, although I'm sure he was thinner when he won. Ha, yeah, I'm always suffering from an adrenelin hangover after a Show, maybe I should stay off the Forum those days. But it IS a tough gig to please everyone, more especially hardened punters. Football, horse racing, greyhounds, Darts, & so on, it seems we dislike the commentators & pundits in all of them, & we think we could do better. But we could not. We do have the option to turn the sound down, too, if we know everything & don't want or like the added "colour". Personally, I'd prefer FAR less talk from commentators, in all sports, just let the pictures do the talking. These 2 guys were absolute masters at that. (http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/sport/Pix/columnists/2009/1/9/1231527046253/Clive-Everton-001.jpg) (http://media.tumblr.com/cb88fbc0bb4c9e727df752b9c8d1847a/tumblr_inline_ndti9ztjox1rlvwet.jpg) In fact, I'd far rather they commentate even than Sid Waddell, who always seemed a bit ott to me. He was a lovely man, but his ott style really grated with me. Guess I'm an oddbod, & a grumpy one at that. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 19, 2014, 10:14:12 AM Think there are plenty of excellent commentators
The current darts mob on Sky are not in that group though Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: redarmi on December 19, 2014, 10:17:27 AM Darts is, IMO, probably the most difficult sport to commentate on - People know the first 6-12 darts are aimed at 60, 57 and 54 - People can hear the caller do the arithmetic for them (the louder and longer the better) - When it comes to a checkout, the series appears in the bottom right, so people can follow that) - The camera generally focuses on the bit they're aiming at, so, like golf, it's either in or out - Unlike golf, there are no conditions to tell us about that we can't see - It's quickly repetitive, so, twenty legs into the night, saying things that are new is tricky - In the PDC era especially, there is a pressure to fill the silences with hugely enthusiastic noises (if you've ever been to watch the darts - sober - it's really quite boring as you get very little of the above, can't see anything and there's no one telling you what's going on so you end up watching on a telly without the commentary and standing up for the ad break song). It's not like in, say, tennis or snooker, where you can allow the audience to enjoy the sport for a bit. It's bright lights, blaring music, skimpily clad, overly made-up walk-on girls, big, sweaty blokes in massive, flowery shirts and a fancy-dressed audience absolutely off their faces on lager. The commentators have to follow suit. Sid Waddell was unique, but, as he was in pool, he had a wingman to fill in with the more on-message stuff. I like Mardle, personally, and whilst I'm not a huge fan of the rest particularly, I do have some sympathy for them. I think they're in a difficult position, where the ghost of a great still walks the halls. I'm pleased none of them has tried to fill the gap and that's what Mardle does pretty well: it's a Mardle Korma to the Waddell Phaal, that's designed to taste like a curry but is obviously designed to be different, too. Out of interest, if you could take any commentator from any sport and train them in the technical aspects of darts, who would you have on sky tonight? Agree with most of that and we have obviously been spoilt over the years with Waddell who was a unique talent but what irritates me is how often they say stuff that is just wrong. When Part came back to 2-2 last night Bristow said "John is the favourite now" which, given the other fella was a 1/3 favourite and had the throw was just wrong. They obviously have access to the prices as another commentator referred to them later in running so it is just laziness. In at least three of the games last night they banged on about momentum which is just claptrap and on other occasions they are just patronising. All that said I am easily irritated!!!! On another note what do they feed the Dutch players in their twenties. Klaasen must have put on five stone since he won the BDO and looking at the pics of MVG in hhis early days he is unrecognisable against what he is now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 19, 2014, 10:19:52 AM Tal does make some valid points, it's not a job I'd fancy doing.
Personally speaking I much prefer the ITV coverage these days to Sky (when they employ decent spotters that is). Mason is very good and improving and Warriner isn't too bad either. Rawling does a decent enough job as well considering he's not really a darts fan. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 19, 2014, 10:22:26 AM Not to do with topic but
If you enjoy good analysis Freddie Flintoff is doing a brilliant job on the big bash this morning... Learning something rather than stating the obvious Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 11:10:19 AM Darts is, IMO, probably the most difficult sport to commentate on - People know the first 6-12 darts are aimed at 60, 57 and 54 - People can hear the caller do the arithmetic for them (the louder and longer the better) - When it comes to a checkout, the series appears in the bottom right, so people can follow that) - The camera generally focuses on the bit they're aiming at, so, like golf, it's either in or out - Unlike golf, there are no conditions to tell us about that we can't see - It's quickly repetitive, so, twenty legs into the night, saying things that are new is tricky - In the PDC era especially, there is a pressure to fill the silences with hugely enthusiastic noises (if you've ever been to watch the darts - sober - it's really quite boring as you get very little of the above, can't see anything and there's no one telling you what's going on so you end up watching on a telly without the commentary and standing up for the ad break song). It's not like in, say, tennis or snooker, where you can allow the audience to enjoy the sport for a bit. It's bright lights, blaring music, skimpily clad, overly made-up walk-on girls, big, sweaty blokes in massive, flowery shirts and a fancy-dressed audience absolutely off their faces on lager. The commentators have to follow suit. Sid Waddell was unique, but, as he was in pool, he had a wingman to fill in with the more on-message stuff. I like Mardle, personally, and whilst I'm not a huge fan of the rest particularly, I do have some sympathy for them. I think they're in a difficult position, where the ghost of a great still walks the halls. I'm pleased none of them has tried to fill the gap and that's what Mardle does pretty well: it's a Mardle Korma to the Waddell Phaal, that's designed to taste like a curry but is obviously designed to be different, too. Out of interest, if you could take any commentator from any sport and train them in the technical aspects of darts, who would you have on sky tonight? Very good post. The phrase "less is more" comes to mind. Just shut up and let us watch unless you have something useful to add. The one man I'd like to hear having a bash at darts is Mike Carlsen (CH4 NFL man), who is the best analyst on any sport bar far IMO. Doesn't treat the audience like idiots, tell us interesting stuff, is funny without being patronising and has an encyclopaedic knowledge of his sport (but doesn't use it to show off). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 11:18:26 AM Why do TV companies use as many former pros as possible as analysts on sport?
Alan Shearer was unquestionably one of the best strikers of my lifetime. But equally unquestionably he is one of the worst analysts on any sport. Just because you are good at one, doesn't mean you'll be good at the other. Richard Langley was a QPR midfielder of the early 2000s. I follow him on Twitter. He is intelligent, funny and opinionated. I think he would be an excellent pundit on football programmes. But he's a million to one to ever get the chance because SKY and BBC would rather wheel out Carragher, Shearer, Gullit, Souness, Redknapp et al because everyone has heard of them. I like Thierry Henry, fantastic player, nice guy. But to pay him £4 mill per year to describe what has happened on a football field is a borderline criminal waste of money. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 11:24:51 AM Why do TV companies use as many former pros as possible as analysts on sport? Alan Shearer was unquestionably one of the best strikers of my lifetime. But equally unquestionably he is one of the worst analysts on any sport. Just because you are good at one, doesn't mean you'll be good at the other. Richard Langley was a QPR midfielder of the early 2000s. I follow him on Twitter. He is intelligent, funny and opinionated. I think he would be an excellent pundit on football programmes. But he's a million to one to ever get the chance because SKY and BBC would rather wheel out Carragher, Shearer, Gullit, Souness, Redknapp et al because everyone has heard of them. I like Thierry Henry, fantastic player, nice guy. But to pay him £4 mill per year to describe what has happened on a football field is a borderline criminal waste of money. (http://tvnewsroom.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Sky-Spts-News-Gillette-Soccer-Saturday-02-04-16-43-18.jpg) (http://e2.365dm.com/12/05/660x350/165012893_1623484313001_ari-origin06-arc-122-1336239438026.jpg?pubId=165012893) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 19, 2014, 11:27:27 AM Why do TV companies use as many former pros as possible as analysts on sport? Alan Shearer was unquestionably one of the best strikers of my lifetime. But equally unquestionably he is one of the worst analysts on any sport. Just because you are good at one, doesn't mean you'll be good at the other. Richard Langley was a QPR midfielder of the early 2000s. I follow him on Twitter. He is intelligent, funny and opinionated. I think he would be an excellent pundit on football programmes. But he's a million to one to ever get the chance because SKY and BBC would rather wheel out Carragher, Shearer, Gullit, Souness, Redknapp et al because everyone has heard of them. I like Thierry Henry, fantastic player, nice guy. But to pay him £4 mill per year to describe what has happened on a football field is a borderline criminal waste of money. I think you have reasoned it out for yourself there Keith. People like to hear from their heroes. Your QPR man may be all you say he is, but most wouldn't give him the time of day, because he is a lesser stripped QPR former player. I agree, £4m a year for Henry is a scandal. He must have a great agent, or whoever signed him must be in on the coup. But the reality is, he has a name that people want to hear opinions from, and will switch onto out of interest, at least. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 11:32:36 AM Why do TV companies use as many former pros as possible as analysts on sport? Alan Shearer was unquestionably one of the best strikers of my lifetime. But equally unquestionably he is one of the worst analysts on any sport. Just because you are good at one, doesn't mean you'll be good at the other. Richard Langley was a QPR midfielder of the early 2000s. I follow him on Twitter. He is intelligent, funny and opinionated. I think he would be an excellent pundit on football programmes. But he's a million to one to ever get the chance because SKY and BBC would rather wheel out Carragher, Shearer, Gullit, Souness, Redknapp et al because everyone has heard of them. I like Thierry Henry, fantastic player, nice guy. But to pay him £4 mill per year to describe what has happened on a football field is a borderline criminal waste of money. (http://tvnewsroom.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Sky-Spts-News-Gillette-Soccer-Saturday-02-04-16-43-18.jpg) (http://e2.365dm.com/12/05/660x350/165012893_1623484313001_ari-origin06-arc-122-1336239438026.jpg?pubId=165012893) Funnily enough I like Kammy and love Soccer Saturday - especially Merson. I think it's because they don't take themselves too seriously and are prepared to laugh at themselves. It's the ones who think their opinions are gospel that get my goat - like Rod Harrington and Alan Shearer. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2014, 11:37:58 AM Why do TV companies use as many former pros as possible as analysts on sport? Alan Shearer was unquestionably one of the best strikers of my lifetime. But equally unquestionably he is one of the worst analysts on any sport. Just because you are good at one, doesn't mean you'll be good at the other. Richard Langley was a QPR midfielder of the early 2000s. I follow him on Twitter. He is intelligent, funny and opinionated. I think he would be an excellent pundit on football programmes. But he's a million to one to ever get the chance because SKY and BBC would rather wheel out Carragher, Shearer, Gullit, Souness, Redknapp et al because everyone has heard of them. I like Thierry Henry, fantastic player, nice guy. But to pay him £4 mill per year to describe what has happened on a football field is a borderline criminal waste of money. I think you have reasoned it out for yourself there Keith. People like to hear from their heroes. Your QPR man may be all you say he is, but most wouldn't give him the time of day, because he is a lesser stripped QPR former player. I agree, £4m a year for Henry is a scandal. He must have a great agent, or whoever signed him must be in on the coup. But the reality is, he has a name that people want to hear opinions from, and will switch onto out of interest, at least. I would not agree its a "scandal", good luck to him, but yes, people will want to see him & hear his views, & I can think of few better suited to the role. He is immensely popular, & from what I have seen & heard, comes across wonderfully on TV. Great signing, I thought. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 11:42:37 AM That's the terrible thing, Camel: I much prefer soccer saturday to final score. If I were sitting there, watching the games with them, I reckon it'd be a great day, my sides would be aching and I probably wouldn't even mention that it's ridiculous they don't know who all the players are.
But, alas, they are primarily there to tell us - their hungry audience - what is going on in the football matches their broadcaster doesn't have the rights to show live in our country. They have 10-20 seconds to give us a description of an incident (goal, penalty appeal, sending off, offside) and how often are you left feeling you know what has happened? What you really need for that job is radio commentators, not the excitable bloke in the pub. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2014, 11:47:06 AM That's the terrible thing, Camel: I much prefer soccer saturday to final score. If I were sitting there, watching the games with them, I reckon it'd be a great day, my sides would be aching and I probably wouldn't even mention that it's ridiculous they don't know who all the players are. But, alas, they are primarily there to tell us - their hungry audience - what is going on in the football matches their broadcaster doesn't have the rights to show live in our country. They have 10-20 seconds to give us a description of an incident (goal, penalty appeal, sending off, offside) and how often are you left feeling you know what has happened? What you really need for that job is radio commentators, not the excitable bloke in the pub. What? Don't start me off on Alan "Know It All" Green, please, or I'll need to go buy one of those critics armchairs with rear view mirrors & everything. (http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/4/20/1240241132133/Alan-Green-001.jpg) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 11:51:09 AM That's the terrible thing, Camel: I much prefer soccer saturday to final score. If I were sitting there, watching the games with them, I reckon it'd be a great day, my sides would be aching and I probably wouldn't even mention that it's ridiculous they don't know who all the players are. But, alas, they are primarily there to tell us - their hungry audience - what is going on in the football matches their broadcaster doesn't have the rights to show live in our country. They have 10-20 seconds to give us a description of an incident (goal, penalty appeal, sending off, offside) and how often are you left feeling you know what has happened? What you really need for that job is radio commentators, not the excitable bloke in the pub. What? Don't start me off on Alan "Know It All" Green, please, or I'll need to go buy one of those critics armchairs with rear view mirrors & everything. (http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/4/20/1240241132133/Alan-Green-001.jpg) I think I'm the only person I know that thinks Alan Green is an excellent commentator. Give me Green any day over Clive Tildsley or Martin Tyler. I'm obviously a contrarian. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 11:56:37 AM I don't mind Green particularly. I can take or leave it, but he does describe well.
But I mean in the sense that they're used to commentating in a medium where their audience can't see what they see. Imagine commentating on something like poker on the radio. Some people would just tell you the cards and the bet-pot-stack sizes (let's say the elite online pros), but the best commentators would tell you everything and paint a picture of the way the players were dressed, their body movement, that the last, unexpected raise would have "scythed him down from his high horse" and so on. You'd feel like you were there. That's part of what makes the staring competition sketch so magnificent. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 19, 2014, 12:00:02 PM Agree with Camel.
If I'm driving home, and its footy on I always am pleased to hear Greens voice, yet because of all the bad press he gets, I'm almost looking to dislike him, but I can't. Solid, reliable and nicely excitable, perfect for that drive home. Same with Kammy. Always pleased when its over to him. Life's too short to be serious all the time. Give me the fun time frankies any day. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 12:21:29 PM Turned into a decent debate this, the thing that mostly comes across to me and I think we mostly all agree is we don't mind a bit of japes but we want our commentators to be on point and instead of stating the bloody obvious we want them to give us a proper analysis of what's going on. Sometimes just let the pictures do the taling the way Ted Lowe did in Snooker. Also echo Camel in that I love Mike Carlsen, the guy just oozes class.
What of my pet peeves when watching Scottish Football is how bad the commentators are, in all my years of watching football whether it be Sky/Terrestrial I feel badly let down. Its such a shameful list of people we have let loose on our game. I also think paying Henry £4million a year is crminal because these costs are passed back to the consumer, and despte the fact he may well be very good - and having listened to him during the World Cup he definitely is - I don't think £4 million a year is value for money. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2014, 12:24:43 PM Turned into a decent debate this, the thing that mostly comes across to me and I think we mostly all agree is we don't mind a bit of japes but we want our commentators to be on point and instead of stating the bloody obvious we want them to give us a proper analysis of what's going on. Sometimes just let the pictures do the taling the way Ted Lowe did in Snooker. Also echo Camel in that I love Mike Carlsen, the guy just oozes class. What of my pet peeves when watching Scottish Football is how bad the commentators are, in all my years of watching football whether it be Sky/Terrestrial I feel badly let down. Its such a shameful list of people we have let loose on our game. I also think paying Henry £4million a year is crminal because these costs are passed back to the consumer, and despte the fact he may well be very good - and having listened to him during the World Cup he definitely is - I don't think £4 million a year is value for money. I think Clive Everton was streets ahead of Ted Lowe in that department. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:30:58 PM Turned into a decent debate this, the thing that mostly comes across to me and I think we mostly all agree is we don't mind a bit of japes but we want our commentators to be on point and instead of stating the bloody obvious we want them to give us a proper analysis of what's going on. Sometimes just let the pictures do the taling the way Ted Lowe did in Snooker. Also echo Camel in that I love Mike Carlsen, the guy just oozes class. What of my pet peeves when watching Scottish Football is how bad the commentators are, in all my years of watching football whether it be Sky/Terrestrial I feel badly let down. Its such a shameful list of people we have let loose on our game. I also think paying Henry £4million a year is crminal because these costs are passed back to the consumer, and despte the fact he may well be very good - and having listened to him during the World Cup he definitely is - I don't think £4 million a year is value for money. I think Clive Everton was streets ahead of Ted Lowe in that department. If I had a pound every time Ted Lowe explained the free ball rule, I'd have a lot of pounds. If we are watching Cliff Thorburn v Terry Griffiths at 2.10am on a school night, it's 1/100 we know the free ball rule tyvm. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2014, 12:35:50 PM Turned into a decent debate this, the thing that mostly comes across to me and I think we mostly all agree is we don't mind a bit of japes but we want our commentators to be on point and instead of stating the bloody obvious we want them to give us a proper analysis of what's going on. Sometimes just let the pictures do the taling the way Ted Lowe did in Snooker. Also echo Camel in that I love Mike Carlsen, the guy just oozes class. What of my pet peeves when watching Scottish Football is how bad the commentators are, in all my years of watching football whether it be Sky/Terrestrial I feel badly let down. Its such a shameful list of people we have let loose on our game. I also think paying Henry £4million a year is crminal because these costs are passed back to the consumer, and despte the fact he may well be very good - and having listened to him during the World Cup he definitely is - I don't think £4 million a year is value for money. I think Clive Everton was streets ahead of Ted Lowe in that department. If I had a pound every time Ted Lowe explained the free ball rule, I'd have a lot of pounds. If we are watching Cliff Thorburn v Terry Griffiths at 2.10am on a school night, it's 1/100 we know the free ball rule tyvm. I know it's subjective, but Ted Lowe to snooker was as Murray Walker to Motor Racing. Turn the sound down please, Dad Whispering Ted Lowe indeed. He should have whispered a bit quieter, imo. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 12:38:54 PM What do you reckon to Jesse May? Would he make a good darts commentator?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 12:40:47 PM Turned into a decent debate this, the thing that mostly comes across to me and I think we mostly all agree is we don't mind a bit of japes but we want our commentators to be on point and instead of stating the bloody obvious we want them to give us a proper analysis of what's going on. Sometimes just let the pictures do the taling the way Ted Lowe did in Snooker. Also echo Camel in that I love Mike Carlsen, the guy just oozes class. What of my pet peeves when watching Scottish Football is how bad the commentators are, in all my years of watching football whether it be Sky/Terrestrial I feel badly let down. Its such a shameful list of people we have let loose on our game. I also think paying Henry £4million a year is crminal because these costs are passed back to the consumer, and despte the fact he may well be very good - and having listened to him during the World Cup he definitely is - I don't think £4 million a year is value for money. I think Clive Everton was streets ahead of Ted Lowe in that department. If I had a pound every time Ted Lowe explained the free ball rule, I'd have a lot of pounds. If we are watching Cliff Thorburn v Terry Griffiths at 2.10am on a school night, it's 1/100 we know the free ball rule tyvm. I know it's subjective, but Ted Lowe to snooker was as Murray Walker to Motor Racing. Turn the sound down please, Dad Whispering Ted Lowe indeed. He should have whispered a bit quieter, imo. He did come up with maybe the best Colmanball ever. "For those of you watching in black and white, the blue ball is snookered behind the pink" Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 12:52:53 PM Turned into a decent debate this, the thing that mostly comes across to me and I think we mostly all agree is we don't mind a bit of japes but we want our commentators to be on point and instead of stating the bloody obvious we want them to give us a proper analysis of what's going on. Sometimes just let the pictures do the taling the way Ted Lowe did in Snooker. Also echo Camel in that I love Mike Carlsen, the guy just oozes class. What of my pet peeves when watching Scottish Football is how bad the commentators are, in all my years of watching football whether it be Sky/Terrestrial I feel badly let down. Its such a shameful list of people we have let loose on our game. I also think paying Henry £4million a year is crminal because these costs are passed back to the consumer, and despte the fact he may well be very good - and having listened to him during the World Cup he definitely is - I don't think £4 million a year is value for money. I think Clive Everton was streets ahead of Ted Lowe in that department. Ha it may well have been Clive I meant. Infact having done a quick google now it was. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2014, 01:18:59 PM Turned into a decent debate this, the thing that mostly comes across to me and I think we mostly all agree is we don't mind a bit of japes but we want our commentators to be on point and instead of stating the bloody obvious we want them to give us a proper analysis of what's going on. Sometimes just let the pictures do the taling the way Ted Lowe did in Snooker. Also echo Camel in that I love Mike Carlsen, the guy just oozes class. What of my pet peeves when watching Scottish Football is how bad the commentators are, in all my years of watching football whether it be Sky/Terrestrial I feel badly let down. Its such a shameful list of people we have let loose on our game. I also think paying Henry £4million a year is crminal because these costs are passed back to the consumer, and despte the fact he may well be very good - and having listened to him during the World Cup he definitely is - I don't think £4 million a year is value for money. I think Clive Everton was streets ahead of Ted Lowe in that department. Ha it may well have been Clive I meant. Infact having done a quick google now it was. Am sure it was - Ted Lowe was a prize waffler. Nothing to say? Let's just waffle then. Everton would often go 3 or 4 minutes without saying a word, but when he did, it was meaningful. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Mark_Porter on December 19, 2014, 01:58:50 PM BUT WHERE'S THE CUEBALL GOING!!! In the pocket John, like the last thousand times.
Highlight last night was the John Part snarl. Was just ambling along then suddenly got the snarl out and all hell was unleashed. Shame he couldn't quite snarl long enough to nick it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 19, 2014, 02:09:16 PM BUT WHERE'S THE CUEBALL GOING!!! In the pocket John, like the last thousand times. Highlight last night was the John Part snarl. Was just ambling along then suddenly got the snarl out and all hell was unleashed. Shame he couldn't quite snarl long enough to nick it. I've heard on good authority he shags anything that moves. Good old Darth Maple. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2014, 02:46:50 PM BUT WHERE'S THE CUEBALL GOING!!! In the pocket John, like the last thousand times. Highlight last night was the John Part snarl. Was just ambling along then suddenly got the snarl out and all hell was unleashed. Shame he couldn't quite snarl long enough to nick it. I've heard on good authority he shags anything that moves. Good old Darth Maple. I can't imagine he's too picky... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: redarmi on December 19, 2014, 04:55:59 PM I quite like Henry as a pundit (thought he was very good during world cup) but £4m is ridiculous
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 05:04:00 PM I quite like Henry as a pundit (thought he was very good during world cup) but £4m is ridiculous Very much this, he articulates himself very well and offers something many the other pundits don't and there is very little waffle but £4 million mon tae f**k Sky. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 08:32:26 PM Did anyone have a tickle on Richardson?
I was tempted never pulled trigger pre match then when he pulled the set back I fired a bullet. Meh, decision now. He's choking up there now. Hamilton is sooo bad. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 08:38:33 PM Did anyone have a tickle on Richardson? I was tempted never pulled trigger pre match then when he pulled the set back I fired a bullet. Meh, decision now. He's choking up there now. Hamilton is sooo bad. Backed Hamilton...but then I also backed Part... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 08:57:52 PM Bit unlucky that two brothers get drawn together in the prelims
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 09:08:39 PM Bit unlucky that two brothers get drawn together in the prelims I didn't know James Atken even played darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 09:10:12 PM Both could take on the role of Fido.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 09:21:20 PM Bit unlucky that two brothers get drawn together in the prelims I didn't know James Atken even played darts. Against Ben Grundy apparently Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 09:29:37 PM This geezer looks fit to break Peter Wright in half if Wright gets up to his gamesmanship shenanigans
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 19, 2014, 09:32:05 PM This geezer looks fit to break Peter Wright in half if Wright gets up to his gamesmanship shenanigans Plays rugby for Neath. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 10:32:35 PM See anyone singing this yaya toure/kolo toure nonsense at the darts they should be forcibly removed and given a swift kick up the arse.
So tilting. Seems to be very originality at the darts these days. There was a time were the chanting was funny and inventive. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 11:45:06 PM The idea seed 1 plays 32, 2 plays 31, 3 plays 30 etc etc in round 2 is palpably unfair.
Kellet was better off being unseeded than pushed up to 32 seed because he is certain to play MVG in round 2 if he gets there. The only certainty from the draw should be 1 seed can't play 2 seed until the final. One of seeds 3 or 4 goes in top half, one goes in bottom. Then 5,6,7,8 get spread randomly, one in each qtr. Etc etc. That's how they do it at Wimbledon and it works very well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 11:51:54 PM The number 16 seed (Terry Jenkins) is due to play MVG in the third round, yet the 27 seed (Bunting) won't have to play one of the big two until the semi final.
How is that fair? Number 15 and 16 seeds are guaranteed harder early rounds than 27 and 28. Should be much more randomised. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 11:54:30 PM The number 16 seed (Terry Jenkins) is due to play MVG in the third round, yet the 27 seed (Bunting) won't have to play one of the big two until the semi final. How is that fair? Should be much more randomised. But the you don't get the final Barry wants. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2014, 11:55:53 PM Most of Fred will probably be ok with Bunting getting an easy ride :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 19, 2014, 11:57:29 PM The number 16 seed (Terry Jenkins) is due to play MVG in the third round, yet the 27 seed (Bunting) won't have to play one of the big two until the semi final. How is that fair? Should be much more randomised. But the you don't get the final Barry wants. Clearly set up to make it more likely MVG plays Taylor in the final. Anyone know how long the draw has been manufactured like this? Pretty sure the World Snooker Championship draws are set up more randomly. (Correct me if I'm wrong) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 20, 2014, 12:02:59 AM Not sure Camel you probably need Bazza to clarify that.
Imagine you stayed to watch this dross and missed your tube/bus home. I need one more maximum for a scoop but its not by skill its just both have been so bad that the match keeps going. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2014, 12:07:50 AM It also means the 8 seed has an easier draw than the five seed.
Yes he play 1 in the qtrs, but there is a much greater chance 4 and 2 have been knocked out by the time he should face them than 5 has. It's a fix. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 20, 2014, 12:28:31 PM in the 20years or so I've been watching darts the draw has been like that. Snooker is the same.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2014, 12:40:37 PM in the 20years or so I've been watching darts the draw has been like that. Snooker is the same. Look at the Wimbledon draw: http://wimbledon.betting-directory.com/mens-wimbledon-tennis-draw.php 1 seed (Djoko) is due to play 31 seed in round 3. And Djoko will play the 3 seed (Murray) if they both make the semi finals. Definitely fairer! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 20, 2014, 04:32:10 PM So glad that Pipe is out and that I actually missed watching him play that's like a double nut result.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 20, 2014, 07:49:44 PM I like Anderson in this first match up, just think he's now got the experience of playing against the big names and that will hold him in good stead and he's got his tour card as well meaning he will be playing more practicing more. Beaton on the otherhand is on the decline for me, but that's only to be expected when you get to his age unless of course your Phil Taylor and you don't do decline.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2014, 08:27:50 PM Thought it was Jerome for a minute :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 20, 2014, 10:43:11 PM That puts an end to Whitlock's PL hopes
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 20, 2014, 11:13:17 PM That puts an end to Whitlock's PL hopes Good, this makes me happy. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2014, 05:11:36 PM Dean Winstanley very impressive there I think.
Could be a decent long shot to go a long way... (checking his draw now) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 21, 2014, 05:12:57 PM Dean Winstanley very impressive there I think. Could be a decent long shot to go a long way... (checking his draw now) Decent section now Whitlock is out. Think he'll make the quarters. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on December 21, 2014, 09:36:49 PM Darts falling out board on chisnalls game non stop lol
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 22, 2014, 07:20:40 PM Anything stand out tonight?
I quite liked Caven most 180's @ 1/1 Goingto take Barney on as well in a few markets. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2014, 09:32:11 PM No matter whether he wins or loses, how come the market didn't factor in Mervyn King's bad back?
Drifted from 1.18 to 1.28 while he hobbled onto the stage. He has won the first set and is still a bigger price than he was prior to 15 minutes before they started! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sovietsong on December 23, 2014, 09:51:55 PM No matter whether he wins or loses, how come the market didn't factor in Mervyn King's bad back? Drifted from 1.18 to 1.28 while he hobbled onto the stage. He has won the first set and is still a bigger price than he was prior to 15 minutes before they started! i know nothing about darts, but enjoy watching, when i watch i like to back the underdog... £5 on @ 9/2 - chirp chirp... after timing at its best! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 23, 2014, 09:52:51 PM Hopp producing the darts of his life has something to do with that. Merv still averaging 95 so back not having a significant impact on his performance. He has walked in to one though.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 23, 2014, 09:58:58 PM Any chance at all King is exaggerating his pain to get a bit of gamesmanship going? Not saying he's faking it, but the pauses and the winces could upset a young lad's rhythm.
Not averse to playing the player, historically. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2014, 10:05:00 PM Any chance at all King is exaggerating his pain to get a bit of gamesmanship going? Not saying he's faking it, but the pauses and the winces could upset a young lad's rhythm. Not averse to playing the player, historically. I've had sciatica. The pain I thought was a ten out ten pain before I had sciatica was actually only a two max. Sciatica. THAT'S real pain. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 23, 2014, 10:07:47 PM Any chance at all King is exaggerating his pain to get a bit of gamesmanship going? Not saying he's faking it, but the pauses and the winces could upset a young lad's rhythm. Not averse to playing the player, historically. I've had sciatica. The pain I thought was a ten out ten pain before I had sciatica was actually only a two max. Sciatica. THAT'S real pain. Is that what this is? If so, I'm amazed he's still there. Another set is going to be brutal. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2014, 10:09:34 PM Any chance at all King is exaggerating his pain to get a bit of gamesmanship going? Not saying he's faking it, but the pauses and the winces could upset a young lad's rhythm. Not averse to playing the player, historically. I've had sciatica. The pain I thought was a ten out ten pain before I had sciatica was actually only a two max. Sciatica. THAT'S real pain. Is that what this is? If so, I'm amazed he's still there. Another set is going to be brutal. According to wikipedia he had earlier in the year. It comes and goes for about 6 months usually, so I'm assuming it is. One moment you feel zero pain, the next you want to top yourself it hurts so much. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 23, 2014, 10:14:42 PM Any chance at all King is exaggerating his pain to get a bit of gamesmanship going? Not saying he's faking it, but the pauses and the winces could upset a young lad's rhythm. Not averse to playing the player, historically. I've had sciatica. The pain I thought was a ten out ten pain before I had sciatica was actually only a two max. Sciatica. THAT'S real pain. Is that what this is? If so, I'm amazed he's still there. Another set is going to be brutal. According to wikipedia he had earlier in the year. It comes and goes for about 6 months usually, so I'm assuming it is. One moment you feel zero pain, the next you want to top yourself it hurts so much. Slipped discs apparently. Anything in the back is going to be very unpleasant. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2014, 10:24:39 PM Any chance at all King is exaggerating his pain to get a bit of gamesmanship going? Not saying he's faking it, but the pauses and the winces could upset a young lad's rhythm. Not averse to playing the player, historically. I've had sciatica. The pain I thought was a ten out ten pain before I had sciatica was actually only a two max. Sciatica. THAT'S real pain. Is that what this is? If so, I'm amazed he's still there. Another set is going to be brutal. According to wikipedia he had earlier in the year. It comes and goes for about 6 months usually, so I'm assuming it is. One moment you feel zero pain, the next you want to top yourself it hurts so much. Slipped discs apparently. Anything in the back is going to be very unpleasant. My uncle was in hospital for 10 days with slipped discs. How is King even playing? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 23, 2014, 10:27:32 PM Any chance at all King is exaggerating his pain to get a bit of gamesmanship going? Not saying he's faking it, but the pauses and the winces could upset a young lad's rhythm. Not averse to playing the player, historically. I've had sciatica. The pain I thought was a ten out ten pain before I had sciatica was actually only a two max. Sciatica. THAT'S real pain. Is that what this is? If so, I'm amazed he's still there. Another set is going to be brutal. According to wikipedia he had earlier in the year. It comes and goes for about 6 months usually, so I'm assuming it is. One moment you feel zero pain, the next you want to top yourself it hurts so much. Slipped discs apparently. Anything in the back is going to be very unpleasant. My uncle was in hospital for 10 days with slipped discs. How is King even playing? A gallon of cortisone, at a guess. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 24, 2014, 12:05:31 AM Any unusual betting moves in the Bunting match on the handicap market?
Bunting went from playing ok, to not being able to hit the board in the 3rd set. Looked pretty dodgy. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2014, 11:14:06 PM That was very un-Andersonlike. Brilliant match.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 28, 2014, 12:23:13 AM OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GARY GARYYYYYYY
:) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: stato_1 on December 28, 2014, 08:49:37 PM Who is this commentator with Mardle, tilting me so much
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 28, 2014, 09:06:34 PM Who is this commentator with Mardle, tilting me so much David Croft. Fills in a bit for the presenter, Dave Clark, but also provides the main commentary duty for the F1 coverage. There isn't anything like him in darts, so he's a bit different in style. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 29, 2014, 02:31:54 PM That was mightily impressive from Michael Smith. Must have averaged 105+ in those last 4 sets.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 29, 2014, 06:42:34 PM That was mightily impressive from Michael Smith. Must have averaged 105+ in those last 4 sets. Future world champion if he gets the mental game sorted. He rattles off legs like MvG and Lewis when he's firing. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 29, 2014, 07:59:33 PM Keep that up Bunting and we will be rich.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 29, 2014, 08:15:39 PM Keep that up Bunting and we will be rich. Normal service resumed. As u were. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 29, 2014, 08:41:45 PM Keep that up Bunting and we will be rich. Normal service resumed. As u were. Typical match to show how frustrating darts can be, if either of these guys became consistent they would certainly contend more. Come on Bunters!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 29, 2014, 08:55:35 PM Keep that up Bunting and we will be rich. Normal service resumed. As u were. Typical match to show how frustrating darts can be, if either of these guys became consistent they would certainly contend more. Come on Bunters!! Bunting for King. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: swinebag22 on December 30, 2014, 03:04:39 AM Who is this commentator with Mardle, tilting me so much David Croft. Fills in a bit for the presenter, Dave Clark, but also provides the main commentary duty for the F1 coverage. There isn't anything like him in darts, so he's a bit different in style. Crofty is a bit different. I like him though. Anyone with young kids should watch Disney Pixar's "planes". Crofty does a great cameo. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2014, 07:43:28 AM So from what I can see Anderson has 17 180's and MVG 16. Obvs Ando was helped by his long match and looks like Bazzer was spot on that he needs to reach the final to win the 180's bet. Not a two horse race just yet. But some great matches coming up.
Actually not sure if last nights 180's have been updated so MVG s probably in front having played a match more. Anyone know for sure? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2014, 07:52:00 AM Does anyone like the 10/11 on Smith +1.5 against Bunting, after watching how they have played surely this is a close one? Bunting seems to be back on the 180's last night and I know Smith is banging them in but I like the 13/10 on Bunting most 180's. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2014, 08:33:17 AM So from what I can see Anderson has 17 180's and MVG 16. Obvs Ando was helped by his long match and looks like Bazzer was spot on that he needs to reach the final to win the 180's bet. Not a two horse race just yet. But some great matches coming up. Actually not sure if last nights 180's have been updated so MVG s probably in front having played a match more. Anyone know for sure? MVG has 19 now same as Smith. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2014, 10:47:24 AM Coral have a market on who will get the highest checkout this afternoon
Their prices are: 11/4 Anderson 10/3 Wright 4 Winstanley 4 VVdV 11/2 Hamilton 7 Reyes Isn't this just a function of how many legs each player is likely to play/win and a touch of randomness thrown in? Anderson is very likely to win 4-0, while the other 2 matches are liable to go to 6 or 7 sets. Does the fact Anderson is such a strong favourite and very likely to win 12 legs by winning 4-0 outweigh the chance that a player is less likely to win but a good chance to play several more legs? I've thrown a small dart at Hamilton @ 11/2 anyway. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2014, 10:50:07 AM Does anyone like the 10/11 on Smith +1.5 against Bunting, after watching how they have played surely this is a close one? Bunting seems to be back on the 180's last night and I know Smith is banging them in but I like the 13/10 on Bunting most 180's. Thoughts? I've backed Smith. He was very impressive yesterday whereas Bunting admitted after his match that his game isn't in the best of shapes, he was lucky that Wade didn't turn up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 12:16:49 PM 411 total 180's so far.
That bet of under 599 could be in trouble. There could be a fair few 180's today. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2014, 12:26:58 PM 411 total 180's so far. That bet of under 599 could be in trouble. There could be a fair few 180's today. I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted? That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are 13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages: Last 16 (7) Michael van Gerwen 4 V 3 Gary Anderson (12) (3) Adrian Lewis 4 V 1 Mervyn King (3) (7) James Wade 4 V 0 Devon Petersen (3) (7) Peter Wright 4 V 3 Michael Smith (10) (6) Wes Newton 4 V 1 Robert Thornton (5) (5) Simon Whitlock 4 V 0 Kevin Painter (2) (6) Ian White 4 V 3 Richie Burnett (4) (6) Mark Webster 4 V 3 Raymond van Barneveld (8) Quarter Final (6) Peter Wright 5 V 4 Wes Newton (12) (15) Simon Whitlock 5 V 4 Ian White (12) (9) Michael van Gerwen 5 V 3 Mark Webster (4) (7) Adrian Lewis 5 V 1 James Wade (6) Semi Final (5) Peter Wright 6 V 2 Simon Whitlock (6) (6) Michael van Gerwen 6 V 0 Adrian Lewis (6) Final (16) Michael van Gerwen 7 V 4 Peter Wright (6) Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 12:32:59 PM You still think it's in with a chance Tal?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2014, 12:39:07 PM You still think it's in with a chance Tal? 169 maximums in the last 32 last year (finished 603) against 175 this year, so the bet is behind, but it's not as bad as it looks, as long as the final four aren't closely matched heavy lipstick smackers. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 30, 2014, 01:09:27 PM 411 total 180's so far. That bet of under 599 could be in trouble. There could be a fair few 180's today. I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted? That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are 13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages: Last 16 (7) Michael van Gerwen 4 V 3 Gary Anderson (12) (3) Adrian Lewis 4 V 1 Mervyn King (3) (7) James Wade 4 V 0 Devon Petersen (3) (7) Peter Wright 4 V 3 Michael Smith (10) (6) Wes Newton 4 V 1 Robert Thornton (5) (5) Simon Whitlock 4 V 0 Kevin Painter (2) (6) Ian White 4 V 3 Richie Burnett (4) (6) Mark Webster 4 V 3 Raymond van Barneveld (8) Quarter Final (6) Peter Wright 5 V 4 Wes Newton (12) (15) Simon Whitlock 5 V 4 Ian White (12) (9) Michael van Gerwen 5 V 3 Mark Webster (4) (7) Adrian Lewis 5 V 1 James Wade (6) Semi Final (5) Peter Wright 6 V 2 Simon Whitlock (6) (6) Michael van Gerwen 6 V 0 Adrian Lewis (6) Final (16) Michael van Gerwen 7 V 4 Peter Wright (6) Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example. I think you're being a wee bit selective there as you would imagine he'll get more than Wrights 6 whereas the other finalist looks like being MVG or Anderson who will not be far off 16. The semi final numbers for last year are also low. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 01:15:12 PM I think we will see north of 610. Obviously that's no good me piping up with that now when the bet is placed.
I really don't have an indepth knowledge of Darts outside say the top 8 players. I find myself peddling around trying to find some opponents to value bet but that's about it. I think we could see plenty of max's in the VDV v Deano match and even Ando v Reyes. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2014, 01:24:09 PM 411 total 180's so far. That bet of under 599 could be in trouble. There could be a fair few 180's today. I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted? That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are 13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages: Last 16 (7) Michael van Gerwen 4 V 3 Gary Anderson (12) (3) Adrian Lewis 4 V 1 Mervyn King (3) (7) James Wade 4 V 0 Devon Petersen (3) (7) Peter Wright 4 V 3 Michael Smith (10) (6) Wes Newton 4 V 1 Robert Thornton (5) (5) Simon Whitlock 4 V 0 Kevin Painter (2) (6) Ian White 4 V 3 Richie Burnett (4) (6) Mark Webster 4 V 3 Raymond van Barneveld (8) Quarter Final (6) Peter Wright 5 V 4 Wes Newton (12) (15) Simon Whitlock 5 V 4 Ian White (12) (9) Michael van Gerwen 5 V 3 Mark Webster (4) (7) Adrian Lewis 5 V 1 James Wade (6) Semi Final (5) Peter Wright 6 V 2 Simon Whitlock (6) (6) Michael van Gerwen 6 V 0 Adrian Lewis (6) Final (16) Michael van Gerwen 7 V 4 Peter Wright (6) Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example. I think you're being a wee bit selective there as you would imagine he'll get more than Wrights 6 whereas the other finalist looks like being MVG or Anderson who will not be far off 16. The semi final numbers for last year are also low. Quite possibly, teacake. Short term variance is going to be pretty wild over 13 matches. I'm just saying the under 600 bet isn't in as bad shape as it looks. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 30, 2014, 02:14:42 PM Would be impressed if Wright could top how ridic he looks today!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 30, 2014, 02:18:10 PM Would be impressed if Wright could top how ridic he looks today! Awesome. Reminds me of this bloke..... (http://www.yoyodesign.com/media/29724/letting-creatives-be-creative.jpg) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2014, 02:29:27 PM Be nice if Anderson turned up here and made it a quick 4-0, not like I've had a muggy acca or anything. ;bigadz;
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2014, 05:13:27 PM Bloody hell, watching an old Dennis Priestley final from nearly 20 years ago.
Wasn't really into darts then, so I didn't remember how slow he was. As bad as Justin Pipe. Would have driven me bananas. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2014, 06:28:18 PM The 180 bet is toast given virtually every big hitting 180 man is still in. WH now have the line at 624.5.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2014, 06:30:32 PM The 180 bet is toast given virtually every big hitting 180 man is still in. WH now have the line at 624.5. :( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2014, 07:21:46 PM 411 total 180's so far. That bet of under 599 could be in trouble. There could be a fair few 180's today. I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted? That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are 13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages: Last 16 (7) Michael van Gerwen 4 V 3 Gary Anderson (12) (3) Adrian Lewis 4 V 1 Mervyn King (3) (7) James Wade 4 V 0 Devon Petersen (3) (7) Peter Wright 4 V 3 Michael Smith (10) (6) Wes Newton 4 V 1 Robert Thornton (5) (5) Simon Whitlock 4 V 0 Kevin Painter (2) (6) Ian White 4 V 3 Richie Burnett (4) (6) Mark Webster 4 V 3 Raymond van Barneveld (8) Quarter Final (6) Peter Wright 5 V 4 Wes Newton (12) (15) Simon Whitlock 5 V 4 Ian White (12) (9) Michael van Gerwen 5 V 3 Mark Webster (4) (7) Adrian Lewis 5 V 1 James Wade (6) Semi Final (5) Peter Wright 6 V 2 Simon Whitlock (6) (6) Michael van Gerwen 6 V 0 Adrian Lewis (6) Final (16) Michael van Gerwen 7 V 4 Peter Wright (6) Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example. Tal, did u do this research before puttng the rec up n TFT? Gotta say I missed it if u did, those semi final figures do seem pretty low to my untrained eye. Best we be trying to get out of the be as soon as possible. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 30, 2014, 07:23:33 PM 411 total 180's so far. That bet of under 599 could be in trouble. There could be a fair few 180's today. I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted? That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are 13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages: Last 16 (7) Michael van Gerwen 4 V 3 Gary Anderson (12) (3) Adrian Lewis 4 V 1 Mervyn King (3) (7) James Wade 4 V 0 Devon Petersen (3) (7) Peter Wright 4 V 3 Michael Smith (10) (6) Wes Newton 4 V 1 Robert Thornton (5) (5) Simon Whitlock 4 V 0 Kevin Painter (2) (6) Ian White 4 V 3 Richie Burnett (4) (6) Mark Webster 4 V 3 Raymond van Barneveld (8) Quarter Final (6) Peter Wright 5 V 4 Wes Newton (12) (15) Simon Whitlock 5 V 4 Ian White (12) (9) Michael van Gerwen 5 V 3 Mark Webster (4) (7) Adrian Lewis 5 V 1 James Wade (6) Semi Final (5) Peter Wright 6 V 2 Simon Whitlock (6) (6) Michael van Gerwen 6 V 0 Adrian Lewis (6) Final (16) Michael van Gerwen 7 V 4 Peter Wright (6) Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example. Tal, did u do this research before puttng the rec up n TFT? Gotta say I missed it if u did, those semi final figures do seem pretty low to my untrained eye. Best we be trying to get out of the be as soon as possible. Here we go, the full Chompy/Eso Kral incoming. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2014, 07:26:45 PM 411 total 180's so far. That bet of under 599 could be in trouble. There could be a fair few 180's today. I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted? That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are 13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages: Last 16 (7) Michael van Gerwen 4 V 3 Gary Anderson (12) (3) Adrian Lewis 4 V 1 Mervyn King (3) (7) James Wade 4 V 0 Devon Petersen (3) (7) Peter Wright 4 V 3 Michael Smith (10) (6) Wes Newton 4 V 1 Robert Thornton (5) (5) Simon Whitlock 4 V 0 Kevin Painter (2) (6) Ian White 4 V 3 Richie Burnett (4) (6) Mark Webster 4 V 3 Raymond van Barneveld (8) Quarter Final (6) Peter Wright 5 V 4 Wes Newton (12) (15) Simon Whitlock 5 V 4 Ian White (12) (9) Michael van Gerwen 5 V 3 Mark Webster (4) (7) Adrian Lewis 5 V 1 James Wade (6) Semi Final (5) Peter Wright 6 V 2 Simon Whitlock (6) (6) Michael van Gerwen 6 V 0 Adrian Lewis (6) Final (16) Michael van Gerwen 7 V 4 Peter Wright (6) Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example. Tal, did u do this research before puttng the rec up n TFT? Gotta say I missed it if u did, those semi final figures do seem pretty low to my untrained eye. Best we be trying to get out of the be as soon as possible. This was all known at the time, yes. Last year was the record and the first time it had gone above 600. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 08:04:59 PM Superb darts from Lewis in that first set.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 08:31:02 PM Give me strength.
Or even better just fuck off Harrington. "you can reqd him like a book, what a man, you just can't work him out" What now? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 09:08:24 PM That was darting drama.
Not quite sure how RvB pulled that off. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2014, 09:09:57 PM I like that result from a Bunting perspective. Just need him to get past Smith as Barney is definitely beatable.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2014, 09:10:02 PM That was darting drama. Not quite sure how RvB pulled that off. If Bunting gets past Smith I fancy him against Barney more than Lewis. What's their h2h? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2014, 09:13:04 PM I like that result from a Bunting perspective. Just need him to get past Smith as Barney is definitely beatable. Got there before me bazzer, at least we agree, need bunting to turn up tonight, really don't like how short he is though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 30, 2014, 09:17:12 PM What time is the Bunting game tonight, please?
Am suffering temporary loss of control of the remote control, and need to plan its repossession. Currently watching some "Love Actually" film bollox. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 30, 2014, 09:27:46 PM Sorted, it's 22.15. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 30, 2014, 09:28:13 PM I like that result from a Bunting perspective. Just need him to get past Smith as Barney is definitely beatable. Got there before me bazzer, at least we agree, need bunting to turn up tonight, really don't like how short he is though. Huybrechts finding a performance like he did against MVG at the GSOD would be nice Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2014, 10:45:21 PM Bottle wins the day...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 30, 2014, 10:48:33 PM What time is the Bunting game tonight, please? Am suffering temporary loss of control of the remote control, and need to plan its repossession. Currently watching some "Love Actually" film bollox. I presume Ralph must be visiting? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 30, 2014, 10:52:33 PM What time is the Bunting game tonight, please? Am suffering temporary loss of control of the remote control, and need to plan its repossession. Currently watching some "Love Actually" film bollox. I presume Ralph must be visiting? Hugh Grant as Prime Minister. Farcical. Way too posh. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 11:01:42 PM Is it just me that thinks Bunting & Smith both look like real life caricature's?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2014, 11:08:41 PM Is it just me that thinks Bunting & Smith both look like real life caricature's? Def from Family Guy. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2014, 12:01:00 AM That was different gear from Bullet. They both must have averaged close to 110 in the last 3 sets.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 31, 2014, 12:10:11 AM That was different gear from Bullet. They both must have averaged close to 110 in the last 3 sets. Looked a lot more lively than he had done previously, that's for sure. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2014, 12:31:34 AM Definitely a lock for a PL place now, probably was before tonight but that confirms it.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 31, 2014, 12:39:45 AM Definitely a lock for a PL plasce now, probably was before tonight but that confirms it. I like the way bunting has come across to the PDC and performed quite well, should be there abouts for quite a while and if he can sort out some consistency from set to set he could end up one of the best players on the circuit ie Taylor (retired) MVG, Bunting, Lewis, Ando thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2014, 12:50:15 AM Definitely a lock for a PL plasce now, probably was before tonight but that confirms it. I like the way bunting has come across to the PDC and performed quite well, should be there abouts for quite a while and if he can sort out some consistency from set to set he could end up one of the best players on the circuit ie Taylor (retired) MVG, Bunting, Lewis, Ando thoughts? Without a doubt. No one other than Barney has come across and made an impact like he has in his first year and the depth in quality now is significantly greater than it was back in Barney's day. He has bucketloads of ability and is a bit like MVG in that you know he will miss doubles but you also know he has that but of class to take out big finishes when it really matters. If he can reproduce tonight's performance three more times that might just be good enough. Smith must be knocking on the door of a PL spot but will probably have to wait another year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 31, 2014, 08:50:23 AM Definitely a lock for a PL plasce now, probably was before tonight but that confirms it. I like the way bunting has come across to the PDC and performed quite well, should be there abouts for quite a while and if he can sort out some consistency from set to set he could end up one of the best players on the circuit ie Taylor (retired) MVG, Bunting, Lewis, Ando thoughts? Without a doubt. No one other than Barney has come across and made an impact like he has in his first year and the depth in quality now is significantly greater than it was back in Barney's day. He has bucketloads of ability and is a bit like MVG in that you know he will miss doubles but you also know he has that but of class to take out big finishes when it really matters. If he can reproduce tonight's performance three more times that might just be good enough. Smith must be knocking on the door of a PL spot but will probably have to wait another year. Out of interest, how much is a place in the PL worth to a player on average? I don't understand why during the most important tournament of the year a lot of the debate is who will qualify for what is basically a glorified exhibition event. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on December 31, 2014, 03:56:33 PM Definitely a lock for a PL plasce now, probably was before tonight but that confirms it. I like the way bunting has come across to the PDC and performed quite well, should be there abouts for quite a while and if he can sort out some consistency from set to set he could end up one of the best players on the circuit ie Taylor (retired) MVG, Bunting, Lewis, Ando thoughts? Without a doubt. No one other than Barney has come across and made an impact like he has in his first year and the depth in quality now is significantly greater than it was back in Barney's day. He has bucketloads of ability and is a bit like MVG in that you know he will miss doubles but you also know he has that but of class to take out big finishes when it really matters. If he can reproduce tonight's performance three more times that might just be good enough. Smith must be knocking on the door of a PL spot but will probably have to wait another year. Out of interest, how much is a place in the PL worth to a player on average? I don't understand why during the most important tournament of the year a lot of the debate is who will qualify for what is basically a glorified exhibition event. Believe its 25k for last upto £450k for winner. (4th got you circa 50k last season) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: OverTheBorder on December 31, 2014, 04:03:14 PM Definitely a lock for a PL plasce now, probably was before tonight but that confirms it. I like the way bunting has come across to the PDC and performed quite well, should be there abouts for quite a while and if he can sort out some consistency from set to set he could end up one of the best players on the circuit ie Taylor (retired) MVG, Bunting, Lewis, Ando thoughts? Without a doubt. No one other than Barney has come across and made an impact like he has in his first year and the depth in quality now is significantly greater than it was back in Barney's day. He has bucketloads of ability and is a bit like MVG in that you know he will miss doubles but you also know he has that but of class to take out big finishes when it really matters. If he can reproduce tonight's performance three more times that might just be good enough. Smith must be knocking on the door of a PL spot but will probably have to wait another year. Out of interest, how much is a place in the PL worth to a player on average? I don't understand why during the most important tournament of the year a lot of the debate is who will qualify for what is basically a glorified exhibition event. Believe its 25k for last upto £450k for winner. (4th got you circa 50k last season) According to wiki. Think appearance money and sponsorship of being in so many tv program's are a huge +ve for players Stage Prize Money Winner £150,000 Runner Up £75,000 Semi-finalists £60,000 5th Place £50,000 6th Place £45,000 7th Place £35,000 8th Place £30,000 9th Place £25,000 10th Place £20,000 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: OverTheBorder on December 31, 2014, 04:03:54 PM Definitely a lock for a PL plasce now, probably was before tonight but that confirms it. I like the way bunting has come across to the PDC and performed quite well, should be there abouts for quite a while and if he can sort out some consistency from set to set he could end up one of the best players on the circuit ie Taylor (retired) MVG, Bunting, Lewis, Ando thoughts? Without a doubt. No one other than Barney has come across and made an impact like he has in his first year and the depth in quality now is significantly greater than it was back in Barney's day. He has bucketloads of ability and is a bit like MVG in that you know he will miss doubles but you also know he has that but of class to take out big finishes when it really matters. If he can reproduce tonight's performance three more times that might just be good enough. Smith must be knocking on the door of a PL spot but will probably have to wait another year. Out of interest, how much is a place in the PL worth to a player on average? I don't understand why during the most important tournament of the year a lot of the debate is who will qualify for what is basically a glorified exhibition event. Believe its 25k for last upto £450k for winner. (4th got you circa 50k last season) Actually up to 700k this year http://www.pdc.tv/premier-league-darts/article/139kzn5t0aqjg1f0li45oher3x/title/betway-seal-new-three-year-deal Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: redarmi on December 31, 2014, 04:17:40 PM Was told the players get 5k appearance money per leg which, I would imagine, is huge for those outside of the top 4/5
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 31, 2014, 04:49:49 PM Was told the players get 5k appearance money per leg which, I would imagine, is huge for those outside of the top 4/5 Even if i had a million in the bank, which probably only taylor does. Id still be desperate to get 5k to play 12 legs max of darts Stupid money really that. Probably more than winning an off telly tourney. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on December 31, 2014, 04:52:34 PM That's quite some 'glorified exhibition tournament'
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 31, 2014, 04:59:52 PM The exhibition circuit is very profitable though isn't it?
An ex pro was playing at my local a good few years back he was hardly a massive name but he got £500 for the pleasure of it Can only imagine it is a lot more £££ for them now Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2014, 05:02:24 PM does anyone that goes to a PDC Darts event actually watch the darts? (a cursory observation from looking on the tv)
I understand it must be a great social drinking night, songs, atmosphere etc...but what is it like in terms of watching the sport in detail? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 31, 2014, 05:28:52 PM does anyone that goes to a PDC Darts event actually watch the darts? (a cursory observation from looking on the tv) I understand it must be a great social drinking night, songs, atmosphere etc...but what is it like in terms of watching the sport in detail? I've never been to Ally Pally but I did go to the Lakeside about 20 years ago. It was before the days of walk on music and crowd singing, but there was plenty of beer. Plenty of action at the tax free betting booth (we used to pay 9%) and plenty of abuse for the players we hadn't bet on. A great night. Got invited by Roland to Ally Pally this year, but it was too near to the evnet to arrange child care and transport down to London. Turns out Jack Whitehall is mate of Roland and was on his table. Hope I get an invite next year! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 31, 2014, 05:32:07 PM does anyone that goes to a PDC Darts event actually watch the darts? (a cursory observation from looking on the tv) I understand it must be a great social drinking night, songs, atmosphere etc...but what is it like in terms of watching the sport in detail? Been a couple of times. You cant drink and sing and chant non stop, and you also cant watch the darts non stop. You end up doing bits of both until you are taken over by the other. Further back, the less you see etc, which means the concentration is even more easily distracted. Couldn't do it more than once every few years, but still a great day each time. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 31, 2014, 05:45:29 PM does anyone that goes to a PDC Darts event actually watch the darts? (a cursory observation from looking on the tv) I understand it must be a great social drinking night, songs, atmosphere etc...but what is it like in terms of watching the sport in detail? Been a couple of times. You cant drink and sing and chant non stop, and you also cant watch the darts non stop. You end up doing bits of both until you are taken over by the other. Further back, the less you see etc, which means the concentration is even more easily distracted. Couldn't do it more than once every few years, but still a great day each time. For the first time all tournament there was no singing at the business end of Taylor v Huybrechts. Seemed like the crowd were actually engrosed in the action for once. So annoying when there is a key moment and the crowd start up with "Stand up if you love the darts". If you loved the darts you'd watch to see if the Pieman can check out this 108 to win the set you muppets. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 31, 2014, 06:09:48 PM LoL
Love The Camel! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nirvana on December 31, 2014, 08:13:04 PM does anyone that goes to a PDC Darts event actually watch the darts? (a cursory observation from looking on the tv) Really cant remember watching a single dart and couldnt actually tell you who we saw..only 2 years ago.I understand it must be a great social drinking night, songs, atmosphere etc...but what is it like in terms of watching the sport in detail? Was pretty interesting to see how stalinist it was withbouncers getting involved to quiet any off brand chanting. Good night but deffo just a giant piss up (sorry, no better phrase) for most Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 31, 2014, 08:15:32 PM does anyone that goes to a PDC Darts event actually watch the darts? (a cursory observation from looking on the tv) Really cant remember watching a single dart and couldnt actually tell you who we saw..only 2 years ago.I understand it must be a great social drinking night, songs, atmosphere etc...but what is it like in terms of watching the sport in detail? Was pretty interesting to see how stalinist it was withbouncers getting involved to quiet any off brand chanting. Good night but deffo just a giant piss up (sorry, no better phrase) for most Rework the old football song from the 70s. "We all agree..... That Ladbrokes is better than Hills is!" Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: redarmi on December 31, 2014, 09:05:06 PM does anyone that goes to a PDC Darts event actually watch the darts? (a cursory observation from looking on the tv) Really cant remember watching a single dart and couldnt actually tell you who we saw..only 2 years ago.I understand it must be a great social drinking night, songs, atmosphere etc...but what is it like in terms of watching the sport in detail? Was pretty interesting to see how stalinist it was withbouncers getting involved to quiet any off brand chanting. Good night but deffo just a giant piss up (sorry, no better phrase) for most Rework the old football song from the 70s. "We all agree..... That Ladbrokes is better than Hills is!" Reminds me of years ago when I worked for Ladbrokes in the shops and they asked me to manage the booths at Stamford Bridge. The first time someone stood in front of the booth and sang "William hill, William hill, William hill" it was quite funny....not so much after the 16th time. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 01, 2015, 01:03:04 PM Anderson vulnerable tonight? Wright +1.5 is 5/4, I know he has had a bit of man flu but Gary has hardly been firing all cylinders.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 01, 2015, 01:26:50 PM Anderson vulnerable tonight? Wright +1.5 is 5/4, I know he has had a bit of man flu but Gary has hardly been firing all cylinders. Was class in his last match, and the 2nd half of the match before then. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 01, 2015, 02:00:34 PM Anderson averaged 104.5 and 103 in his last 2 matches. I like him when he's looking a bit pissed off as he has been so far rather than the jokey all pals act that he sometimes has (usually against Taylor). I would fancy Anderson 5-2 or 5-3, should be a good game though.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 01, 2015, 02:16:38 PM I think Thornton looks big at 9/2.
Eye of the Tiger about him. Would be happy to then lay him should he win, but feel he maybe up to this tonight. Probs way off mark, but all about opinions. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 01, 2015, 03:41:33 PM Anderson averaged 104.5 and 103 in his last 2 matches. I like him when he's looking a bit pissed off as he has been so far rather than the jokey all pals act that he sometimes has (usually against Taylor). I would fancy Anderson 5-2 or 5-3, should be a good game though. I agree with that. He has a bit of fire in his belly this week which isn't like him. He will probably manage to find a way to lose in the semi or final but is playing well enough to win it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2015, 09:09:50 PM Some match that was.
When he's on, he's unstoppable! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 01, 2015, 09:17:08 PM Fantastic game, pitty Thornton never started playing until he was 3 - 0 down.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 01, 2015, 10:29:08 PM That could haunt Ando!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on January 01, 2015, 11:02:19 PM MVG/Ando could be absolutely ridonkulous!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 01, 2015, 11:10:13 PM Have to love the advert for the BDO. Couldn't look any more distant from the PDC. The Lakeside might as well be Saltley Working Men's Club.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 02, 2015, 06:19:39 AM Nice guy, that Whitlock...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6OUl6WIAAApfmp.jpg) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on January 02, 2015, 06:50:12 AM At a party whilst the darts is on today, don't really want to spoiler myself before watching the matches, anywhere they get uploaded to after they're finished?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 02, 2015, 08:50:44 AM Who had the highest checkout in the Anderson-Wright game, please? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 02, 2015, 09:23:27 AM Whitlock is rumoured to have some pretty serious personal problems. It's very sad to see that image in that context.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 02, 2015, 09:44:17 AM Who had the highest checkout in the Anderson-Wright game, please? It was tied Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 02, 2015, 09:46:22 AM Who had the highest checkout in the Anderson-Wright game, please? It was tied Ahh, thank you. So my bet on Wright to have highest checkout is a loser, I guess? Boo! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on January 02, 2015, 11:32:21 AM Who had the highest checkout in the Anderson-Wright game, please? It was tied Ahh, thank you. So my bet on Wright to have highest checkout is a loser, I guess? Boo! Yeah I wasn't sure either but checked and you can back the draw at around 25/1 every game. Not quite the robbery of C0ral offering 25/1 on a 9 darter in each individual match but probably not too far off Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 02, 2015, 07:51:38 PM Whitlock is rumoured to have some pretty serious personal problems. It's very sad to see that image in that context. The usual ones? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 02, 2015, 08:33:30 PM Whitlock is rumoured to have some pretty serious personal problems. It's very sad to see that image in that context. The usual ones? Whtlock makes me feel uncomfortable. Not sure exactly why, but I just have a feeling that there is some very disturbing issues in the background. Have read before as well that he can't perform on the stage unless he's had at least a bottle of Jack beforehand. Much is made of Wade's demons but you look at a few of the guys on stage and they just don't seem to be enjoying things as much as they might/should. Much of it looks pained. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 02, 2015, 08:51:11 PM Different gravy from VVdV here. Dunno why but I have always liked the big man despite doing chunks on him betting wise. I really dislike Taylor so rooting for him here but I don't see it unless he can break here and put some distance between them.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 02, 2015, 09:01:35 PM Whitlock is rumoured to have some pretty serious personal problems. It's very sad to see that image in that context. Where do you hear these rumours? And what are they? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 03, 2015, 03:15:19 PM If the PDC is a massive budget, CGI-enthused, all star cast epic of a film, the BDO is Sharknado 2.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2015, 03:35:06 PM If the PDC is a massive budget, CGI-enthused, all star cast epic of a film, the BDO is Sharknado 2. It's like i remember watching darts in 1987 Tremendously old-fashioned Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 03, 2015, 03:52:21 PM Thud. Thud. Thud. TWENTY SEVEN!!!!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2015, 04:22:11 PM Whitlock is rumoured to have some pretty serious personal problems. It's very sad to see that image in that context. Where do you hear these rumours? And what are they? Come on Tal. Spill! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 03, 2015, 04:25:15 PM Whitlock is rumoured to have some pretty serious personal problems. It's very sad to see that image in that context. Where do you hear these rumours? And what are they? Come on Tal. Spill! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 03, 2015, 04:30:44 PM I'm a funny sort, I know, but I don't think it fair to post anything second hand. I wouldn't want that to be done about me.
All I was saying really was the photo didn't read "playa!" to me. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2015, 05:12:07 PM I'm a funny sort, I know, but I don't think it fair to post anything second hand. I wouldn't want that to be done about me. All I was saying really was the photo didn't read "playa!" to me. Yes. I see. You don't like to gossip, but you hear he has some quite serious personal issues. I'm sure 'Enders will welcome you when Dot Cotton moves on! ;sark; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 03, 2015, 05:20:03 PM I'm a funny sort, I know, but I don't think it fair to post anything second hand. I wouldn't want that to be done about me. All I was saying really was the photo didn't read "playa!" to me. Yes. I see. You don't like to gossip, but you hear he has some quite serious personal issues. I'm sure 'Enders will welcome you when Dot Cotton moves on! ;sark; Could just see the usual guff of "phwoarrr wouldn't mind her double top", when I want to talk about the darts. You're right. I shouldn't have posted. Apologies all. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 03, 2015, 05:31:53 PM I'm a funny sort, I know, but I don't think it fair to post anything second hand. I wouldn't want that to be done about me. All I was saying really was the photo didn't read "playa!" to me. Yes. I see. You don't like to gossip, but you hear he has some quite serious personal issues. I'm sure 'Enders will welcome you when Dot Cotton moves on! ;sark; Could just see the usual guff of "phwoarrr wouldn't mind her double top", when I want to talk about the darts. You're right. I shouldn't have posted. Apologies all. Geez peace, you can't leave it at that. Man up and tell the rest of the story. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 03, 2015, 05:40:36 PM (http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/98/986deb861fb223f74d9cb4473936a4e5508a66dc016aec4db46cebf1a15a104c.jpg) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 05:42:41 PM I'm a funny sort, I know, but I don't think it fair to post anything second hand. I wouldn't want that to be done about me. All I was saying really was the photo didn't read "playa!" to me. Yes. I see. You don't like to gossip, but you hear he has some quite serious personal issues. I'm sure 'Enders will welcome you when Dot Cotton moves on! ;sark; Could just see the usual guff of "phwoarrr wouldn't mind her double top", when I want to talk about the darts. You're right. I shouldn't have posted. Apologies all. Geez peace, you can't leave it at that. Man up and tell the rest of the story. Can't remember where I got that pic, but they were talking about him having a drink problem, and I take it he's a bit of a Werbeniuk... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: OverTheBorder on January 03, 2015, 05:53:37 PM Barry Hearns view on lakeside...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 03, 2015, 07:13:34 PM Betvic r 11/4 for 33 or more 180's which would be the record (MVG match)
Betfair set the line quite high at 30.5 with over 3.56 Other bookies at 26.5 Sky have boosted 30 or more 180's to 3/1. Last year MVG v Lewis 12 180's for 6-0. Obvs would need the match to go the distance and both to be on top form but I like the 3/1. Thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 03, 2015, 07:22:32 PM BFSB have got MVG and Taylor at 11/10 for the double. Under specials.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 08:28:26 PM Anderson a different gravy tonight!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 03, 2015, 08:32:05 PM Anderson a different gravy tonight! Just a bit. Someone (Bazza?) suggested there was no love lost between them, and you can see the signs of that. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 08:34:44 PM Anderson a different gravy tonight! Just a bit. Someone (Bazza?) suggested there was no love lost between them, and you can see the signs of that. Yeah, you don't often see him giving it the big 'un, but he does seem to be interacting with the crowd more this evening. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2015, 09:28:07 PM BOOOOOOOOOMIO!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 09:29:11 PM Don't think I've ever seen him play that well, and after thinking I'd sooner he won, I'm not so sure now...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 03, 2015, 09:30:11 PM Well played Ando. Pitty you never turned up on those 180's though.
With the number of ton forties can't quite believe they never beat the line. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on January 03, 2015, 09:31:12 PM OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GARY GARYYYYYYY :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 03, 2015, 09:34:08 PM Betvic r 11/4 for 33 or more 180's which would be the record (MVG match) Betfair set the line quite high at 30.5 with over 3.56 Other bookies at 26.5 Sky have boosted 30 or more 180's to 3/1. Last year MVG v Lewis 12 180's for 6-0. Obvs would need the match to go the distance and both to be on top form but I like the 3/1. Thoughts? I was on overs at 24.5 when B365 opened up it quickly went to 25.5. Feeling a bit meh they never beat that. I expected it to go 11 sets. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2015, 09:35:22 PM Anyone know the current total 180s per player please?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 03, 2015, 09:37:28 PM Anyone know the current total 180s per player please? Anderson weighed in Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 03, 2015, 09:38:02 PM Misread. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2015, 09:38:57 PM Anyone know the current total 180s per player please? Anderson weighed in Really? That far clear? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 03, 2015, 09:39:45 PM 6-0 Taylor please :D
Been an incredible year for the triple lipstick smackers. Highest ever is 603 iirc. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 03, 2015, 09:40:15 PM Anyone know the current total 180s per player please? Anderson weighed in Really? That far clear? Yeah. It would need something remarkable for him not to win. If he made the final he was always going to win. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2015, 09:42:05 PM Anyone know the current total 180s per player please? Anderson weighed in Really? That far clear? Yeah. It would need something remarkable for him not to win. If he made the final he was always going to win. Good news. Thanks Bazza. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 03, 2015, 09:43:46 PM Anderson a different gravy tonight! Just a bit. Someone (Bazza?) suggested there was no love lost between them, and you can see the signs of that. Yeah, you don't often see him giving it the big 'un, but he does seem to be interacting with the crowd more this evening. Sadly he gets on well with Taylor so he may not have the same fire in his belly in the final. He wanted that one tonight big time. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 09:48:40 PM Didn't do it myself, because Anderson always does me up the gary when I back him for anything!
Well done though mate :) Now he just needs to let Barney win, and all is right with the world ;) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Woodsey on January 03, 2015, 10:17:21 PM Actually watching this in an Amsterdam pub, the locals have gone quiet now after a noisy start lol
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Micko on January 03, 2015, 10:42:10 PM Really liking ando against anyone in the final now, currently around evens.
What price will he be if Taylor beats Barney here? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 03, 2015, 10:55:35 PM Mesmerised that these two middle age men are vying for a place in the final, feels like they are rolling back the years, when in fact the years haven't gone to be rolled back. Seriously when is Phil gonna get sh!t? Is he the greatest WORLD champion that ever lived?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 11:12:51 PM Think Barney picked the wrong glasses up tonight :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 04, 2015, 03:23:41 AM Gary Anderson needs to win otherwise the world of darts goes back a bit.
The world needed MVG vs Taylor final and MVg winning. but weve got 2nd best and we need ando to win!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 03:38:11 AM Gary Anderson needs to win otherwise the world of darts goes back a bit. The world needed MVG vs Taylor final and MVg winning. but weve got 2nd best and we need ando to win!! What a redic statement to make about the greatest ever sportsman in English history. The guy is close to retirement (real retirement age in a proper job (not sport)) age and has crushed a sport (whilst pretty much single handedly building the sport from nothing on sky to the multi million pound product it is today) non stop for 25 years against probably 25/30 wannabe champions and seen them all off time after time when prize money/sponsorship deals are reaching football salary levels for the top 4 in the game. He has more cash than he could ever spend in his life in Stoke on Trent yet is still motivated to totally crush his chosen profession and you say the sport is taking a step back when he continues to average 103 in world championship semis over 9 or 10 sets against a fellow all time great?? Are you on drugs? Watching him tonight was like poetry in motion. I can't believe we are still in 2015 and watching him play at this level when he has taken the game into a different orbit over the past 15/20 years. Do people ever think about Hendry or Davies still destroying Snooker in 2015 like Taylor is still destoying darts? It's truely incredible. He is far and away the greatest sportsman in the history of this country. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 04, 2015, 03:49:53 AM Gary Anderson needs to win otherwise the world of darts goes back a bit. The world needed MVG vs Taylor final and MVg winning. but weve got 2nd best and we need ando to win!! What a redic statement to make about the greatest ever sportsman in English history. The guy is close to retirement age and has crushed a sport non stop for 25 years against probably 25/30 wannabe champions and seen them all off time after time when prize money/sponsorship deals are reaching football salary levels for the top 4 in the game. He has more cash than he could ever spend in his life in Stoke on Trent yet is still motivated to totally crush his chosen profession and you say the sport is taking a step back when he continues to average 103 in world championship semis over 9 or 10 sets against a fellow all time great?? Are you on drugs? Watching him tonight was like poetry in motion. I can't believe we are still in 2015 and watching him play at this level when he has taken the game into a different orbit over the past 15/20 years. Do people ever think about Hendry or Davies still destroying Snooker in 2015 like Taylor is still destoying darts? It's truely incredible. He is far and away the greatest sportsman in the history of this country. Steve Redgrave wins "greatest sportsman in English history" easily IMO. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 03:52:18 AM Gary Anderson needs to win otherwise the world of darts goes back a bit. The world needed MVG vs Taylor final and MVg winning. but weve got 2nd best and we need ando to win!! What a redic statement to make about the greatest ever sportsman in English history. The guy is close to retirement age and has crushed a sport non stop for 25 years against probably 25/30 wannabe champions and seen them all off time after time when prize money/sponsorship deals are reaching football salary levels for the top 4 in the game. He has more cash than he could ever spend in his life in Stoke on Trent yet is still motivated to totally crush his chosen profession and you say the sport is taking a step back when he continues to average 103 in world championship semis over 9 or 10 sets against a fellow all time great?? Are you on drugs? Watching him tonight was like poetry in motion. I can't believe we are still in 2015 and watching him play at this level when he has taken the game into a different orbit over the past 15/20 years. Do people ever think about Hendry or Davies still destroying Snooker in 2015 like Taylor is still destoying darts? It's truely incredible. He is far and away the greatest sportsman in the history of this country. Steve Redgrave wins "greatest sportsman in English history" easily IMO. Really? Hand picking fit younger guys to fill the boat in his later years to power him to glory? Phil hasn't had that luxury. He just powered through 25 years of total domination himself and single handedly taken the game to a totally different level. Redgrave hasn't changed rowing personally in the slightest imo. Bristow was winning the world final 6-0 in 1986 averaging sub 95!!!!! I really don't think most darts fans realise how good a product they are watching right now. Pre PDC/sky no one in the history of the world championship ever averaged more than 95 in a final who got beat in the Embassy final. You would struggle to get to the 2nd round now averaging sub 95. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_BDO_World_Darts_Championship John Part must be the worst 3 time world champion in the history of any sport. He won the world final 6-0 averaging 82 in 1994 then luck boxed his way to beat a nobody in sheppard in 2008. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_BDO_World_Darts_Championship Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 04, 2015, 04:10:49 AM Gary Anderson needs to win otherwise the world of darts goes back a bit. The world needed MVG vs Taylor final and MVg winning. but weve got 2nd best and we need ando to win!! What a redic statement to make about the greatest ever sportsman in English history. The guy is close to retirement age and has crushed a sport non stop for 25 years against probably 25/30 wannabe champions and seen them all off time after time when prize money/sponsorship deals are reaching football salary levels for the top 4 in the game. He has more cash than he could ever spend in his life in Stoke on Trent yet is still motivated to totally crush his chosen profession and you say the sport is taking a step back when he continues to average 103 in world championship semis over 9 or 10 sets against a fellow all time great?? Are you on drugs? Watching him tonight was like poetry in motion. I can't believe we are still in 2015 and watching him play at this level when he has taken the game into a different orbit over the past 15/20 years. Do people ever think about Hendry or Davies still destroying Snooker in 2015 like Taylor is still destoying darts? It's truely incredible. He is far and away the greatest sportsman in the history of this country. Steve Redgrave wins "greatest sportsman in English history" easily IMO. Really? Hand picking fit younger guys to fill the boat in his later years to power him to glory? Phil hasn't had that luxury. He just powered through 25 years of total domination himself and single handedly taken the game to a totally different level. Redgrave hasn't changed rowing personally in the slightest imo. Bristow was winning the world final 6-0 in 1986 averaging sub 95!!!!! I really don't think most darts fans realise how good a product they are watching right now. Pre PDC/sky no one in the history of the world championship ever averaged more than 95 in a final who got beat in the Embassy final. You would struggle to get to the 2nd round now averaging sub 95. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_BDO_World_Darts_Championship Rowing is one of the toughest physical sports around. There is no hiding place in an 8, let alone a pair. Gold medals in 6 consecutive Olympic Games is a sporting achievement that will probably never be matched by an English athlete. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DropTheHammer on January 04, 2015, 04:11:58 AM And how many people have thrown a few arrows, as apposed to rowing!!!? My point being that many people with a 'natural talent' for rowing, would never get discovered, or would have gone down other sporting avenues...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DropTheHammer on January 04, 2015, 04:14:39 AM Surely the greatest sportsman in English history has to have performed at the top in multi-disciplines?
GOAT? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Woosnam) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 04:21:24 AM People also forget that Taylor could easily continue at this level for another 10 years as well. 25 years after winning his first WC he is still the short priced fav to win the WC every year. Who is to say when this will end? I am amazed he is still averaging 100+ in lengthly WC semis etc ten years after his peak. If someone had said to me ten years ago he would be in the 2015 WC final after averaging 103+ in the semis i would have laughed at you. Why can't he still be doing the same in 2025? Is he the greatest ever English sportsman then if he has been at the top of this game for 35 years at the age of 65?
People say 'it's only darts it's not a sport' blah blah. Why isn't Steve Davies/Hendry etc still at the top of their game crushing it if 'its only snooker'? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 04, 2015, 04:21:45 AM Surely the greatest sportsman in English history has to have performed at the top in multi-disciplines? GOAT? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Woosnam) Never heard of him, but pretty bloody impressive. And to think I was in awe of Rebecca Romero. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 05:01:21 AM People also forget that Taylor could easily continue at this level for another 10 years as well. 25 years after winning his first WC he is still the short priced fav to win the WC every year. Who is to say when this will end? I am amazed he is still averaging 100+ in lengthly WC semis etc ten years after his peak. If someone had said to me ten years ago he would be in the 2015 WC final after averaging 103+ in the semis i would have laughed at you. Why can't he still be doing the same in 2025? Is he the greatest ever English sportsman then if he has been at the top of this game for 35 years at the age of 65? People say 'it's only darts it's not a sport' blah blah. Why isn't Steve Davies/Hendry etc still at the top of their game crushing it if 'its only snooker'? Glad someone tempted you out of retirement, son! HNY :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 04, 2015, 10:26:52 AM Mesmerised that these two middle age men are vying for a place in the final, feels like they are rolling back the years, when in fact the years haven't gone to be rolled back. Seriously when is Phil gonna get sh!t? Is he the greatest WORLD champion that ever lived? Nice to see u back Arbboy, (I'm getting lonely in the greyhound thread!!!) agree that he is the greatest world champion ever, just can't bring myself to say he is also the greatest sportsman. Camel goes very close with Redgrave, in fact can't think of another modern day sportsman that beats him. Obviously there may be a few in history that we have forgotten. Without doubt Darts would not be what it is today without Taylor, like him or not he raised the standard and changed the game forever. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 10:58:02 AM It's really quite a difficult question to answer.
At first, I thought Arbby was onto something with Redgrave, ie, doing it himself then hand picking his crew etc, in an elitist sport. But then I thought most individual sports are elitist in some way or other. Motor racing-money Darts/Snooker-can't see parents eager to say, ok skip uni, become a darts player-unfashionable. Tennis/Golf, seen as needing money to persue them. Then most everything else are regarded as team sports, with every individual having doubts cast on their supreme greatness by, "well, he was just part of a great team"etc. I think where people such as Taylor and McCoy deserve so much credit, is the fact that at ages when most people in their sport, let alone sport in general, are in the commentary box, or running a restaurant or driving a taxi. Not only are they still the best, but they are still doing numbers that suggest they are still improving, just to stay ahead of the rest Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 11:23:51 AM People also forget that Taylor could easily continue at this level for another 10 years as well. 25 years after winning his first WC he is still the short priced fav to win the WC every year. Who is to say when this will end? I am amazed he is still averaging 100+ in lengthly WC semis etc ten years after his peak. If someone had said to me ten years ago he would be in the 2015 WC final after averaging 103+ in the semis i would have laughed at you. Why can't he still be doing the same in 2025? Is he the greatest ever English sportsman then if he has been at the top of this game for 35 years at the age of 65? People say 'it's only darts it's not a sport' blah blah. Why isn't Steve Davies/Hendry etc still at the top of their game crushing it if 'its only snooker'? Glad someone tempted you out of retirement, son! HNY :) HNY to you as well son and all other blondes on the sports threads. I hit the big 4 0 yday as well. Mid life crisis got me back on blonde pissed up watching the NBA. Obviously it is all about opinions and Sir Steve has been a incredible athlete across a huge timeline at the very highest level. I am a bit biased though towards the power living in Stoke. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: stato_1 on January 04, 2015, 11:28:01 AM If you classify Darts as a sport can't really see any argument for anyone other than Taylor
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 11:33:05 AM It's really quite a difficult question to answer. At first, I thought Arbby was onto something with Redgrave, ie, doing it himself then hand picking his crew etc, in an elitist sport. But then I thought most individual sports are elitist in some way or other. Motor racing-money Darts/Snooker-can't see parents eager to say, ok skip uni, become a darts player-unfashionable. Tennis/Golf, seen as needing money to persue them. Then most everything else are regarded as team sports, with every individual having doubts cast on their supreme greatness by, "well, he was just part of a great team"etc. I think where people such as Taylor and McCoy deserve so much credit, is the fact that at ages when most people in their sport, let alone sport in general, are in the commentary box, or running a restaurant or driving a taxi. Not only are they still the best, but they are still doing numbers that suggest they are still improving, just to stay ahead of the rest McCoy and Taylor are very similar. McCoy is just a better person with more class than Taylor. Taylor lets himself down with his antics away from the game itself but as people have said that is just down to a lack of education in earlier life. Taylor's level of mind games is incredible. If Anderson wins tonight i really hope he makes Taylor sign the board as i would love to see Taylor's reaction if someone made him do that after losing a world final. This game is going to make or break Anderson's career going forward imo mentally. He looks so much mentally stronger than ever this year but this is the one guy he has known deep down for years he can't beat. I want to see a real nasty streak in him tonight with no hugs and smiles with Taylor in the warm ups. He always looks like he is beat against Taylor before he starts. If they both turn up tonight this has the potential to match any final in history quality wise. I really hope it does. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 11:34:07 AM People also forget that Taylor could easily continue at this level for another 10 years as well. 25 years after winning his first WC he is still the short priced fav to win the WC every year. Who is to say when this will end? I am amazed he is still averaging 100+ in lengthly WC semis etc ten years after his peak. If someone had said to me ten years ago he would be in the 2015 WC final after averaging 103+ in the semis i would have laughed at you. Why can't he still be doing the same in 2025? Is he the greatest ever English sportsman then if he has been at the top of this game for 35 years at the age of 65? People say 'it's only darts it's not a sport' blah blah. Why isn't Steve Davies/Hendry etc still at the top of their game crushing it if 'its only snooker'? Glad someone tempted you out of retirement, son! HNY :) HNY to you as well son and all other blondes on the sports threads. I hit the big 4 0 yday as well. Mid life crisis got me back on blonde pissed up watching the NBA. Obviously it is all about opinions and Sir Steve has been a incredible athlete across a huge timeline at the very highest level. I am a bit biased though towards the power living in Stoke. No no no, you have missed the very best bit about Phil Taylor. He was the inaugral inductee in the....... Stoke On Trent Hall of Fame How about THAT, then? PS - Welcome back, & Happy Birthday. 50, wow. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 11:35:12 AM People also forget that Taylor could easily continue at this level for another 10 years as well. 25 years after winning his first WC he is still the short priced fav to win the WC every year. Who is to say when this will end? I am amazed he is still averaging 100+ in lengthly WC semis etc ten years after his peak. If someone had said to me ten years ago he would be in the 2015 WC final after averaging 103+ in the semis i would have laughed at you. Why can't he still be doing the same in 2025? Is he the greatest ever English sportsman then if he has been at the top of this game for 35 years at the age of 65? People say 'it's only darts it's not a sport' blah blah. Why isn't Steve Davies/Hendry etc still at the top of their game crushing it if 'its only snooker'? Glad someone tempted you out of retirement, son! HNY :) HNY to you as well son and all other blondes on the sports threads. I hit the big 4 0 yday as well. Mid life crisis got me back on blonde pissed up watching the NBA. Obviously it is all about opinions and Sir Steve has been a incredible athlete across a huge timeline at the very highest level. I am a bit biased though towards the power living in Stoke. No no no, you have missed the very best bit about Phil Taylor. He was the inaugral inductee in the....... Stoke On Trent Hall of Fame How about THAT, then? PS - Welcome back, & Happy Birthday. 50, wow. Steady on 40 son. That's bad enough! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 11:36:37 AM Has Taylor always done that "let the other guy throw first" thing in long games? That's quite a neat mind-game. Do other players ever do the same to him? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 11:39:19 AM The most interesting thing about Taylor, is when you hear he only got into Darts because Bristow couldn't find a regular playing partner(tale according to Bristow).
Taylor was no more than a borderline County player, and Bristow tried to make him a great player as his pet project. Apparently, he was totally useless and would crash out of every tourny early doors, and was close to giving up on many occasions. Bristow says, he showed little natural ability, but in the end it was shear determination won the day. Hope for us all, eh! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 11:40:53 AM The most interesting thing about Taylor, is when you hear he only got into Darts because Bristow couldn't find a regular playing partner(tale according to Bristow). Taylor was no more than a borderline County player, and Bristow tried to make him a great player as his pet project. Apparently, he was totally useless and would crash out of every tourny early doors, and was close to giving up on many occasions. Bristow says, he showed little natural ability, but in the end it was shear determination won the day. Hope for us all, eh! If Wiki is correct....... Although he liked to play darts as a child, he never took up the game seriously until 1986 when he moved into a terraced house in Burslem, living near to Eric Bristow's pub the Crafty Cockney. A few months later, his wife Yvonne bought him a set of darts for his birthday and he started playing weekly, occasionally at Bristow's pub. By 1988, he was selected for the county team and playing at Super League level. Bristow started sponsoring him by loaning him £10,000 later that year to help him get started as a professional darts player and on the condition that he gave up his job in the ceramic industry Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 04, 2015, 12:46:23 PM It's really quite a difficult question to answer. At first, I thought Arbby was onto something with Redgrave, ie, doing it himself then hand picking his crew etc, in an elitist sport. But then I thought most individual sports are elitist in some way or other. Motor racing-money Darts/Snooker-can't see parents eager to say, ok skip uni, become a darts player-unfashionable. Tennis/Golf, seen as needing money to persue them. Then most everything else are regarded as team sports, with every individual having doubts cast on their supreme greatness by, "well, he was just part of a great team"etc. I think where people such as Taylor and McCoy deserve so much credit, is the fact that at ages when most people in their sport, let alone sport in general, are in the commentary box, or running a restaurant or driving a taxi. Not only are they still the best, but they are still doing numbers that suggest they are still improving, just to stay ahead of the rest McCoy and Taylor are very similar. McCoy is just a better person with more class than Taylor. Taylor lets himself down with his antics away from the game itself but as people have said that is just down to a lack of education in earlier life. Taylor's level of mind games is incredible. If Anderson wins tonight i really hope he makes Taylor sign the board as i would love to see Taylor's reaction if someone made him do that after losing a world final. This game is going to make or break Anderson's career going forward imo mentally. He looks so much mentally stronger than ever this year but this is the one guy he has known deep down for years he can't beat. I want to see a real nasty streak in him tonight with no hugs and smiles with Taylor in the warm ups. He always looks like he is beat against Taylor before he starts. If they both turn up tonight this has the potential to match any final in history quality wise. I really hope it does. I agree with that. Anderson is a different player when he has a bit of fire in his belly (like last night). Beating Taylor in the Players last month will surely have him in a positive mindset here although I expect Taylor will be a different animal tonight. For me it's all about how Anderson starts and his double top. If he hits that like he was last night then he can win. If he misses a few early doors then he could fold quickly as he's not the best chaser in the world. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 03:41:56 PM People also forget that Taylor could easily continue at this level for another 10 years as well. 25 years after winning his first WC he is still the short priced fav to win the WC every year. Who is to say when this will end? I am amazed he is still averaging 100+ in lengthly WC semis etc ten years after his peak. If someone had said to me ten years ago he would be in the 2015 WC final after averaging 103+ in the semis i would have laughed at you. Why can't he still be doing the same in 2025? Is he the greatest ever English sportsman then if he has been at the top of this game for 35 years at the age of 65? People say 'it's only darts it's not a sport' blah blah. Why isn't Steve Davies/Hendry etc still at the top of their game crushing it if 'its only snooker'? Glad someone tempted you out of retirement, son! HNY :) HNY to you as well son and all other blondes on the sports threads. I hit the big 4 0 yday as well. Mid life crisis got me back on blonde pissed up watching the NBA. Obviously it is all about opinions and Sir Steve has been a incredible athlete across a huge timeline at the very highest level. I am a bit biased though towards the power living in Stoke. Haha, better get yourself a sports car, and a load of designer clobber! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 04, 2015, 04:18:09 PM Gary Anderson needs to win otherwise the world of darts goes back a bit. The world needed MVG vs Taylor final and MVg winning. but weve got 2nd best and we need ando to win!! What a redic statement to make about the greatest ever sportsman in English history. The guy is close to retirement age and has crushed a sport non stop for 25 years against probably 25/30 wannabe champions and seen them all off time after time when prize money/sponsorship deals are reaching football salary levels for the top 4 in the game. He has more cash than he could ever spend in his life in Stoke on Trent yet is still motivated to totally crush his chosen profession and you say the sport is taking a step back when he continues to average 103 in world championship semis over 9 or 10 sets against a fellow all time great?? Are you on drugs? Watching him tonight was like poetry in motion. I can't believe we are still in 2015 and watching him play at this level when he has taken the game into a different orbit over the past 15/20 years. Do people ever think about Hendry or Davies still destroying Snooker in 2015 like Taylor is still destoying darts? It's truely incredible. He is far and away the greatest sportsman in the history of this country. Steve Redgrave wins "greatest sportsman in English history" easily IMO. Really? Hand picking fit younger guys to fill the boat in his later years to power him to glory? Phil hasn't had that luxury. He just powered through 25 years of total domination himself and single handedly taken the game to a totally different level. Redgrave hasn't changed rowing personally in the slightest imo. Bristow was winning the world final 6-0 in 1986 averaging sub 95!!!!! I really don't think most darts fans realise how good a product they are watching right now. Pre PDC/sky no one in the history of the world championship ever averaged more than 95 in a final who got beat in the Embassy final. You would struggle to get to the 2nd round now averaging sub 95. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_BDO_World_Darts_Championship John Part must be the worst 3 time world champion in the history of any sport. He won the world final 6-0 averaging 82 in 1994 then luck boxed his way to beat a nobody in sheppard in 2008. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_BDO_World_Darts_Championship How dare he pick the strongest team to try and win the Olympics. I bet Messi is often caught banging on the Gaffas door asking him to sign Josy Altidore Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 04:38:08 PM The most interesting thing about Taylor, is when you hear he only got into Darts because Bristow couldn't find a regular playing partner(tale according to Bristow). Taylor was no more than a borderline County player, and Bristow tried to make him a great player as his pet project. Apparently, he was totally useless and would crash out of every tourny early doors, and was close to giving up on many occasions. Bristow says, he showed little natural ability, but in the end it was shear determination won the day. Hope for us all, eh! If Wiki is correct....... Although he liked to play darts as a child, he never took up the game seriously until 1986 when he moved into a terraced house in Burslem, living near to Eric Bristow's pub the Crafty Cockney. A few months later, his wife Yvonne bought him a set of darts for his birthday and he started playing weekly, occasionally at Bristow's pub. By 1988, he was selected for the county team and playing at Super League level. Bristow started sponsoring him by loaning him £10,000 later that year to help him get started as a professional darts player and on the condition that he gave up his job in the ceramic industry My uncle ran a pub in 'Leek' for a while, and I'm pretty sure that he said Bristow used to play for their darts team. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 04:47:20 PM Just watched 5 mins of BDO.
22, 29 from the bloke that got lost on way from dressing room to stage. Then spends about 30 seconds to work out his out shots. Magic darts! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 04:47:54 PM Plenty of rumours from the darts mob on twitter for a few years that Whitlock likes a punt and even suggestions he so often left 170 not just because he liked to
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 04:49:28 PM Japanese man wandering allover the shop
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on January 04, 2015, 04:58:54 PM Anyone know where u can find stats on total 180s and who has the most 180s? (or in other words are the under 599.5 total 180s and Anderson most 180s still live? :P)
edit: just read Tals latest post and the link he provided seems the under 599.5 is practically dead, Anderson on 45 180s anyone know the leader/nearest ? ty! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 05:07:57 PM Anyone know where u can find stats on total 180s and who has the most 180s? (or in other words are the under 599.5 total 180s and Anderson most 180s still live? :P) edit: just read Tals latest post and the link he provided seems the under 599.5 is practically dead, Anderson on 45 180s anyone know the leader/nearest ? ty! http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/TournamentPlayerStats.aspx?tournStatKey=8&tournKey=11 Ando a lock. Taylor only has 23. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on January 04, 2015, 05:29:55 PM Ah well that's nice to hear! Ty Tal for info and link! And also a ty for whoever put up that tip, sorry I can't remember who!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 07:27:55 PM Ah well that's nice to hear! Ty Tal for info and link! And also a ty for whoever put up that tip, sorry I can't remember who! Was suggested by Omm, with some strong back up, on Fred. Glad you got on! Think it was passed as a Fred bet though. :dontask: Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on January 04, 2015, 07:30:52 PM Thoughts on Anderson average above 101.5 at evens tonight
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on January 04, 2015, 07:33:21 PM Ty Adz, thanks to Omm and the back up then!:) Shame Fred missed out!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 09:04:15 PM Great start by Anderson, he looks relaxed and comfy. Both players averaged 106 or more. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 09:16:48 PM Not sure why Ando suddenly went for the 18s when in mid 300s.
Not had same flow to his game since that throw. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 09:18:35 PM Taylor is such a prick :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 09:19:43 PM I wonder how Phil would react, if someone grabbed his face after leveling.
Go beserk, I expect. Bit Naughty. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 09:21:58 PM Something must have been said beforehand. Just weird otherwise
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 09:23:06 PM Not sure why Ando suddenly went for the 18s when in mid 300s. Not had same flow to his game since that throw. To leave 170 if he hits 2 t18s and a single 18 i think. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 09:23:49 PM Something must have been said beforehand. Just weird otherwise Either that, or as Marky says, he's just a grade A cock. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 09:23:59 PM Something must have been said beforehand. Just weird otherwise If he did that to me, I would have been totally calm about it, whilst smacking him right in the kisser. Clever mind games though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 09:24:40 PM Not sure why Ando suddenly went for the 18s when in mid 300s. Not had same flow to his game since that throw. To leave 170 if he hits 2 t18s and a single 18 i think. Ah, ok. Cheers Arb Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 09:25:04 PM Nothing happened before
Its typical taylor Come on Gary win get him to sign the board and tickle his chin I'm sure Phil won't give sky a losing interview afterwards as per Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 09:25:58 PM Nothing happened before Its typical taylor Come on Gary win get him to sign the board and tickle his chin Ha! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 09:26:44 PM Not sure why Ando suddenly went for the 18s when in mid 300s. Not had same flow to his game since that throw. To leave 170 if he hits 2 t18s and a single 18 i think. He was on 302 I think. Goes T18 first and hits the single. Goes for the treble again and, if he hits it, that leaves 230, which is a T20 for a finish. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 09:34:56 PM Is this the BDO?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 09:36:22 PM Nothing happened before Its typical taylor Come on Gary win get him to sign the board and tickle his chin I'm sure Phil won't give sky a losing interview afterwards as per I would love ando to make taylor sign the board if ando wins. I am amazed noone has pulled the stunt on taylor in the last few years to get into his head when they have beaten him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 09:38:27 PM Is this the BDO? That bizarre sequence of missed doubles and double doubles has knocked a bit of a hole in both players 3 dart averages. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 09:39:04 PM I feel Gary is a breath away from having a big concentration blip.
Hope I'm wrong. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 09:39:32 PM 6d
Nothing happened before Its typical taylor Come on Gary win get him to sign the board and tickle his chin I'm sure Phil won't give sky a losing interview afterwards as per I would love ando to make taylor sign the board if ando wins. I am amazed noone has pulled the stunt on taylor in the last few years to get into his head when they have beaten him. Would love him to chuck the outside around Taylor's neck, then rub his chin as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 04, 2015, 09:40:07 PM Ando is too much of a decent bloke to pull that sort of trick.
I'd prefer he just misplaced a dart in the sex offenders eye. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 09:41:11 PM LOL.
Some quality replies. Any of which would work! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 09:43:07 PM 6d Nothing happened before Its typical taylor Come on Gary win get him to sign the board and tickle his chin I'm sure Phil won't give sky a losing interview afterwards as per I would love ando to make taylor sign the board if ando wins. I am amazed noone has pulled the stunt on taylor in the last few years to get into his head when they have beaten him. Would love him to chuck the outside around Taylor's neck, then rub his chin as well. The scorers always look really fucked off when taylor throws the outer board around their neck with that smug grin after he wins. Would love one of them to just punch it so it doesnt go around their neck. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 09:52:10 PM I feel Gary is a breath away from having a big concentration blip. Hope I'm wrong. Come on son. Sharpen up! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 10:02:50 PM Needs to chill out, or he's done for.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 10:09:05 PM Win or lose, like him or not, to play darts to that standard at the age of 54 makes Taylor a freak of nature. His record defies belief. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 10:12:32 PM Can't watch anymore.
Bottle gone, and you can see it in his face and in the third dart. I hope he turns it round while I watch a pirate copy of Paddington. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 10:13:40 PM Win or lose, like him or not, to play darts to that standard at the age of 54 makes Taylor a freak of nature. His record defies belief. It's going to be quite spacious with just you and me in the Taylor corner, tikay. Suggest bringing some dominoes. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 10:14:47 PM Maybe he will dedicate the win to you both 😉
If he still does that Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 10:15:08 PM Can't watch anymore. Bottle gone, and you can see it in his face and in the third dart. I hope he turns it round while I watch a pirate copy of Paddington. (http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/pirate-teddy-bear-17433501.jpg) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 04, 2015, 10:16:07 PM Apparently Bunting and Kim in PLD, Whitlock out
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 10:20:00 PM Roland de Wolfe (used to win flips for fun on telly, kids) tweets:
im watching at home-treadmill is lucky. Massive anticipation. think G.A will win but P.T is like the end boss in a videogame. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 10:21:40 PM Win or lose, like him or not, to play darts to that standard at the age of 54 makes Taylor a freak of nature. His record defies belief. It's going to be quite spacious with just you and me in the Taylor corner, tikay. Suggest bringing some dominoes. I am neither for or against Taylor really, I do think he is a phenom though, he is outrageously talented for a man of his age. Either result would do me really, both would be fairytale results. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 10:22:20 PM And Mardle appears to have been brought on for the fairly decent John part
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 10:27:45 PM Stroke him ando
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 10:29:03 PM Win or lose, like him or not, to play darts to that standard at the age of 54 makes Taylor a freak of nature. His record defies belief. It's going to be quite spacious with just you and me in the Taylor corner, tikay. Suggest bringing some dominoes. I am neither for or against Taylor really, I do think he is a phenom though, he is outrageously talented for a man of his age. Either result would do me really, both would be fairytale results. I'm pretty much pro-anyone who excels in their profession. If Taylor gets beaten this time, Anderson will have deserved the title. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 10:29:28 PM Proper swings and swings now, very enjoyable stuff. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 10:31:05 PM https://t.co/30lJJE2PWB
No thanks. Phil.... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 04, 2015, 10:31:36 PM Win or lose, like him or not, to play darts to that standard at the age of 54 makes Taylor a freak of nature. His record defies belief. It's going to be quite spacious with just you and me in the Taylor corner, tikay. Suggest bringing some dominoes. I am neither for or against Taylor really, I do think he is a phenom though, he is outrageously talented for a man of his age. Either result would do me really, both would be fairytale results. I'm pretty much pro-anyone who excels in their profession. If Taylor gets beaten this time, Anderson will have deserved the title. My wallet def needs Anderson but I find myself routing for Taylor. I think it's because of the history he is making, to say in the future that I grew up in the era of Taylor, an achievement which will never be repeated, seems much more important than getting a couple of quid now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 10:34:04 PM Win or lose, like him or not, to play darts to that standard at the age of 54 makes Taylor a freak of nature. His record defies belief. It's going to be quite spacious with just you and me in the Taylor corner, tikay. Suggest bringing some dominoes. I am neither for or against Taylor really, I do think he is a phenom though, he is outrageously talented for a man of his age. Either result would do me really, both would be fairytale results. I'm pretty much pro-anyone who excels in their profession. If Taylor gets beaten this time, Anderson will have deserved the title. Perfectly summed up. Piggott, Best, Daley T, Ali, Hailwood, they gave us so much pleasure, but we often take them for granted until they have left the scene. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 04, 2015, 10:34:26 PM That was vile. Board needs changed, Anderson has had a ridiculous number of bounce outs.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 10:35:40 PM That was vile. Board needs changed, Anderson has had a ridiculous number of bounce outs. That was extraordinary, never seen that before. Horrible timing, too. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 10:35:56 PM It's good to be at least a decent person/personna whilst doing it
Taylor has rarely if ever managed that The board has backed Taylor Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 04, 2015, 10:39:03 PM That was vile. Board needs changed, Anderson has had a ridiculous number of bounce outs. lewis tweeted a short while ago that this board is not as good as the last (direct to unicorn) that being said its not happening to Taylor so it's has to be to do with the weight of Ando's darts, surely? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 04, 2015, 10:39:25 PM His head has gone now
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 04, 2015, 10:40:13 PM That was vile. Board needs changed, Anderson has had a ridiculous number of bounce outs. lewis tweeted a short while ago that this board is not as good as the last (direct to unicorn) that being said its not happening to Taylor so it's has to be to do with the weight of Ando's darts, surely? The boards are crap Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on January 04, 2015, 10:40:41 PM Come on ando! Bounce outs, shout outs get this won!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 10:45:10 PM Wowzer!
What a great watch this is. Bazza, how would you price this up now? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 04, 2015, 10:45:40 PM His head has gone now Maybe not. That was class to put that behind him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 10:45:47 PM Should have rubbed his boat there!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on January 04, 2015, 10:46:01 PM Ando 1/8 on he's got this... I hope
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 10:46:49 PM Oh Gary gary
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 04, 2015, 10:56:11 PM Oh Gary gary Haha, 6-4 and Anderson says it's finished, do u think he is confident? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 11:00:49 PM Taylor getting nice and rattled with his flights l
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 11:05:06 PM The Anderson bounce outs are getting ridic. How many now? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 11:06:35 PM The Anderson bounce outs are getting ridic. How many now? Adrian Lewis tweeted earlier saying.Taylor has diamond ends to his flights hence why he rarely gets bounce outs Learn something new every day... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 11:14:32 PM make him sign the board gaz and make my day!!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 04, 2015, 11:17:41 PM Such a bell end.
Wee sneaky pat on the back there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 11:22:02 PM sign the board phil one fucking time !!!!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 04, 2015, 11:24:12 PM ;tightend; ;tightend; ;applause; ;applause;
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 04, 2015, 11:25:11 PM WP Ando. Fully deserved.
Taylor showing once again what an ungracious prick he really is by turning his back on Ando at the end. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 04, 2015, 11:25:41 PM That was class from Anderson. For a man seen to be mentally weak all of his career to deal with all that happened and win in style was sheer class.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 11:26:42 PM Incred scenes!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 11:29:05 PM He really hates losing, but who loves it?
Taylor gave Anderson hope by missing big doubles. Wonderful to see Anderson hold his nerve. No one can begrudge him this title. Someone tell that gooner to do his suit jacket up. Looks a right mess. Ambassador my eye! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 11:30:48 PM Incred scenes! Wow. Showed some guts there. Must not bet so much on darts again, the agony lasts too long. Go Ando! ;yippee; ;applause; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2015, 11:32:43 PM Fairplay to Taylor there, he's hung around and even managed not to make the interview all about himself.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 04, 2015, 11:34:34 PM Fairplay to Taylor there, he's hung around and even managed not to make the interview all about himself. U would think he would let Anderson enjoy the moment, although Gary didn't do a bad job of looking embarrassed that he beat Phil. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 04, 2015, 11:37:52 PM Glad to see Wade back in. Sky can go fuck themselves by picking Barney again though.
He really just looks like a big bag of depression. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 11:38:28 PM they must have signed a big money tv deal in belgium for the prem league for Kim to get in. Wtf is that all about!!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 04, 2015, 11:44:33 PM Glad to see Wade back in. Sky can go fuck themselves by picking Barney again though. He really just looks like a big bag of depression. Who would u have instead? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 04, 2015, 11:46:52 PM Glad to see Wade back in. Sky can go fuck themselves by picking Barney again though. He really just looks like a big bag of depression. Who would u have instead? Thornton is unlucky to miss out. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 04, 2015, 11:49:53 PM they must have signed a big money tv deal in belgium for the prem league for Kim to get in. Wtf is that all about!!!! Van Gerwen, Taylor, Anderson, Lewis Wright, Wade, Chisnall, Van Barneveld, K Huybrechts, Bunting Much prefer someone bouncing around the stage like Kim than someone like Chisnall or Wade. RvB a no-Brainer selection, being one of the most popular on tour. This is fundamentally an invitation event, so fan interest is critical. How many people go to watch Chizzeh? About as many who go to watch Newton. Kim will get his chance now, so we'll see if he kicks on. Plenty waiting in the wings if he struggles. Agree on Thornton, who probably needed a run in this comp. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 04, 2015, 11:51:29 PM they must have signed a big money tv deal in belgium for the prem league for Kim to get in. Wtf is that all about!!!! Van Gerwen, Taylor, Anderson, Lewis Wright, Wade, Chisnall, Van Barneveld, K Huybrechts, Bunting Much prefer someone bouncing around the stage like Kim than someone like Chisnall or Wade. RvB a no-Brainer selection, being one of the most popular on tour. This is fundamentally an invitation event, so fan interest is critical. How many people go to watch Chizzeh? About as many who go to watch Newton. Kim will get his chance now, so we'll see if he kicks on. Plenty waiting in the wings of he struggles. why has he got his chance ahead of Dolan and several others ahead of him? Makes no sense. He has done nothing all year and is 16th in ranking pre WC. I can only assume the PDC wildcards have taken into account how fit ur missus is and hence why Kim has got a spot by a landslide. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 04, 2015, 11:57:03 PM Dave Whorley is a great judge of darts, works on something to do with the TV production of BDO, has quite a detailed knowledge. (Told everyone to get on Anderson as early as Feb at 28/1, last year had Wright and Also MVG when he was quite a price) anyway he tweeted that it would be nice if Jeff Smith could get over the line in the BDO. Currently 33/1 with sky. Enough for me to have invested a couple of squid. Good luck if u play.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 12:02:33 AM Degree level aftertiming ITT
:D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 05, 2015, 12:03:37 AM they must have signed a big money tv deal in belgium for the prem league for Kim to get in. Wtf is that all about!!!! Van Gerwen, Taylor, Anderson, Lewis Wright, Wade, Chisnall, Van Barneveld, K Huybrechts, Bunting Much prefer someone bouncing around the stage like Kim than someone like Chisnall or Wade. RvB a no-Brainer selection, being one of the most popular on tour. This is fundamentally an invitation event, so fan interest is critical. How many people go to watch Chizzeh? About as many who go to watch Newton. Kim will get his chance now, so we'll see if he kicks on. Plenty waiting in the wings of he struggles. why has he got his chance ahead of Dolan and several others ahead of him? Makes no sense. He has done nothing all year and is 16th in ranking pre WC. I can only assume the PDC wildcards have taken into account how fit ur missus is and hence why Kim has got a spot by a landslide. Grand Slam of Darts probably. The win against MvG sticks on my mind a bit. Unlucky to lose in the semi against Chisnall in a decider. We're choosing between the likely also-rans, so why not pick the most enigmatic, when there's little to choose between them? They'll be tiny dots in the distance for the 10,000 beer slugging louts dressed as crayons anyway. Dolan, White, Pipe, Smith, Kim, King and various others could have been given the nod based on the year's results. Got to choose someone. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 05, 2015, 12:05:52 AM Degree level aftertiming ITT :D Arbboy dethroned as chief winderupper on the football threads and now Adz sent packing on the "yeah, I might have had a few quid on that..." stakes? If anyone starts talking rubbish using big words, I will be getting worried. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 12:06:11 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 05, 2015, 12:06:17 AM Degree level aftertiming ITT :D Wish it was Marky, I didn't listen!!!! Was heavily into Bunting and MVG. Only broke even because I layed Taylor and got Ando on most 180's. Was merely pointing out Whorley's credentials but I can see how it came across. Thanks for the smiley though. ;D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 05, 2015, 12:08:25 AM Glad to see Wade back in. Sky can go fuck themselves by picking Barney again though. He really just looks like a big bag of depression. Who would u have instead? Thornton is unlucky to miss out. He may have been but Barney adds a whole country to the viewing figures, I doubt many others do that. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 05, 2015, 12:09:19 AM I think the Thorn should have been in.
@TAL I don't really care that a bunch of pissed up nobs like to sign about Barny's Army or the fact that he is popular he's dreadful to watch. His inconsistency, strops and woe be me attitude piss me right off. The dutch are still going to tune in with MVG being in the line up. The fans will still still turn up to watch even without RVB. Of the other players that should have got a wild card ahead of him I'd have gone for: Dolan, Brown, Thorn, Jenkins, Deano, VVdV before him. Behind Wes Newton and Justin Pipe I'm not sure there is a player I dislike more than RVB for this type of format. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 05, 2015, 12:10:14 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that. That's totally what it is about. Just waiting to see Belgium added to the tv countries the PL is shown in this year. Then it will make a lot more sense. Barney is also the reigning champion. Has everyone forgotten about that? Whoever won it the year before was going to be 1.01 to defend it wherever they were ranked at the end of 2014. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 05, 2015, 12:11:37 AM Glad to see Wade back in. Sky can go fuck themselves by picking Barney again though. He really just looks like a big bag of depression. Who would u have instead? Thornton is unlucky to miss out. He may have been but Barney adds a whole country to the viewing figures, I doubt many others do that. Who from Dutchland tunes into watch RVB that doesn't watch MVG? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on January 05, 2015, 12:11:49 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that. Only thing that amazed me about the line up is he didn't get Jimmy White in there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 12:12:11 AM Degree level aftertiming ITT :D Wish it was Marky, I didn't listen!!!! Was heavily into Bunting and MVG. Only broke even because I layed Taylor and got Ando on most 180's. Was merely pointing out Whorley's credentials but I can see how it came across. Thanks for the smiley though. ;D FFS... that's something I would do! I was on your boy Bunting, and backed Barney before they played. That was a back to lay, but I got greedy when he played so well, and ended up bricking :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 05, 2015, 12:13:25 AM Bit harsh not inviting the reigning champ like lol
Glad bunting is in, class act. i think it was 2 out of 4 of thornton, chizzy, kim and michael smith. Id have went thornton and kim. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 12:14:16 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that. Only thing that amazed me about the line up is he didn't get Jimmy White in there. They'll probably get an exhibition leg in somewhere! On a separate note, has Ronnie been in the shit lately? He was on Saturday Kitchen a few weeks back, and I couldn't work out how they managed to pull off that coup. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on January 05, 2015, 12:16:35 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that. Only thing that amazed me about the line up is he didn't get Jimmy White in there. They'll probably get an exhibition leg in somewhere! On a separate note, has Ronnie been in the shit lately? He was on Saturday Kitchen a few weeks back, and I couldn't work out how they managed to pull off that coup. There is something very wrong about the one time Snooker wonder kid appearing on Saturday kitchen with his now greying sideburns. Think he is the same age as me too. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 05, 2015, 12:17:28 AM Barney is also the reigning champion. Has everyone forgotten about that? Obviously. Barry will be loving that everyone has a view on it. Makes next to no difference who number 9 and 10 are. They might finish fifth but they'll be 50/1 shots to win (figure of speech before someone starts throwing tenners). And yes, Kmac. Of course you wanted Thornton in. He's unlucky this time round but didn't make a compelling case for inclusion IMO. Just one of the group with a shout. Personally, if it was up to me and I could pick anyone, it'd be Devilfish. Just ahead of Vicky Butler-Henderson. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 05, 2015, 12:20:35 AM Alastair Cook will be devastated, having won his qualifier.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 12:23:07 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that. Only thing that amazed me about the line up is he didn't get Jimmy White in there. They'll probably get an exhibition leg in somewhere! On a separate note, has Ronnie been in the shit lately? He was on Saturday Kitchen a few weeks back, and I couldn't work out how they managed to pull off that coup. There is something very wrong about the one time Snooker wonder kid appearing on Saturday kitchen with his now greying sideburns. Think he is the same age as me now too. I only watch it because it's on after Morning Line, obviously... Just seemed strange, as Hearn has a job getting him to do the media stuff, and then he rocks up for a live BBC show at 10 am on a Saturday. Big 40 for him this year! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Kmac84 on January 05, 2015, 12:25:11 AM Maybe he just likes a bit of butter and who better than James Martin to sort a man out with a butter dish?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 05, 2015, 12:29:45 AM Thornton instead of Chisnall is the only change I would make.
I like Kim and I like looking at his missus. win/win situation. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 05, 2015, 12:39:08 AM Glad to see Wade back in. Sky can go fuck themselves by picking Barney again though. He really just looks like a big bag of depression. Who would u have instead? Thornton is unlucky to miss out. He may have been but Barney adds a whole country to the viewing figures, I doubt many others do that. Who from Dutchland tunes into watch RVB that doesn't watch MVG? My Aunty Reet. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 05, 2015, 12:52:45 AM 8 were locks.
Chisnall probably deserved a spot after GSOD final. After that it was take your pick from any of a handful of others. Huybrechts make Hearn more money so gets the nod. I'm not sure any of the others can feel all that aggrieved as none of them can really put forward a compelling case as to why they should be in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: stato_1 on January 05, 2015, 01:16:47 AM Thornton instead of Chisnall is the only change I would make. I like Kim and I like looking at his missus. win/win situation. all this^ Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 06:53:05 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that. Only thing that amazed me about the line up is he didn't get Jimmy White in there. They'll probably get an exhibition leg in somewhere! On a separate note, has Ronnie been in the shit lately? He was on Saturday Kitchen a few weeks back, and I couldn't work out how they managed to pull off that coup. There is something very wrong about the one time Snooker wonder kid appearing on Saturday kitchen with his now greying sideburns. Think he is the same age as me too. Can't let that one get through Phil - Ronnie is only 39. You'd be OK on the Handicaps though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 11:39:38 AM Some decent photos from a great night. (http://i.guim.co.uk/media/w-620/h--/q-95/fd1e6a1d719064fc1a1a135e3b5735538474a1ca/174_13_3226_1935/1000.jpg) (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/04/246AB0C200000578-2896474-Anderson_had_a_love_affair_with_double_20_during_the_final-m-66_1420409093166.jpg) (http://e1.365dm.com/15/01/768x576/darts-championship-darts-tournament-world-darts-championship_3247978.jpg?20150104225715) (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/04/246A901C00000578-2896474-The_54_year_old_legend_of_the_game_gives_Anderson_s_chin_a_littl-a-41_1420408063340.jpg) (http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/80056000/jpg/_80056661_phil_taylor_getty.jpg) (http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/221/722/hi-res-9621192ae6310a4e1d0a9cc9a7f98e92_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on January 05, 2015, 11:44:07 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that. Only thing that amazed me about the line up is he didn't get Jimmy White in there. They'll probably get an exhibition leg in somewhere! On a separate note, has Ronnie been in the shit lately? He was on Saturday Kitchen a few weeks back, and I couldn't work out how they managed to pull off that coup. There is something very wrong about the one time Snooker wonder kid appearing on Saturday kitchen with his now greying sideburns. Think he is the same age as me too. Can't let that one get through Phil - Ronnie is only 39. You'd be OK on the Handicaps though. Booooo, I went to bed a happy man thinking I had got that through. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 11:55:24 AM I imagine the one who makes Hearn the most dough gets in, and I doubt it's any more complex than that. Only thing that amazed me about the line up is he didn't get Jimmy White in there. They'll probably get an exhibition leg in somewhere! On a separate note, has Ronnie been in the shit lately? He was on Saturday Kitchen a few weeks back, and I couldn't work out how they managed to pull off that coup. There is something very wrong about the one time Snooker wonder kid appearing on Saturday kitchen with his now greying sideburns. Think he is the same age as me too. Can't let that one get through Phil - Ronnie is only 39. You'd be OK on the Handicaps though. Booooo, I went to bed a happy man thinking I had got that through. You were 25/1 to get that through, Phil. As an aside, ref Ronnie & that cookery show thing, I gather that Ronnie is a big fan of cooking in real life, so to speak, so that may explain his appearance on that cooking Show. Not a hobby you'd expect him to have, but he's a complex character, as we know. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on January 05, 2015, 12:13:25 PM I can imagine he has cooked up a few decent joints in his time. Maybe even added his own herbs and shit too?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 12:14:55 PM I can imagine he has cooked up a few decent joints in his time. Maybe even added his own herbs and shit too? Stop it! Did you enjoy seeing & listening to Barry Hearn on stage last night? (Rhetorical). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on January 05, 2015, 12:43:32 PM I can imagine he has cooked up a few decent joints in his time. Maybe even added his own herbs and shit too? Stop it! Did you enjoy seeing & listening to Barry Hearn on stage last night? (Rhetorical). I always like listening to Barry, it helps to remind me how well someone can present himself to people when basically making more money than they are from their skill set. I give you, from the man himself 'I had to get involved in TV poker when I found out the players put up the prize money themselves' Do you remember that comp he filmed in a warehouse at Leyton Orient FC where we had a decent chunk of one of the players and Barry charged the 6 players for the dealers he had provided. Can you imagine turning up to DTD and being told it's 100plus5 entry fee and 50 quid for the dealers wages too? Didn't it end up a 6 way chop coz after about 4 levels the chip leader had about 8 BB so they took their own money back less the dealers fee's and just played it out just to get a 'winner' for the TV. so Barry had a at TV poker episode he could charge ch5 or ch4 or some other TV channel over the odds to show it. Did he film 3 or 4 of them all in one day too? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 12:56:37 PM I can imagine he has cooked up a few decent joints in his time. Maybe even added his own herbs and shit too? Stop it! Did you enjoy seeing & listening to Barry Hearn on stage last night? (Rhetorical). I always like listening to Barry, it helps to remind me how well someone can present himself to people when basically making more money than they are from their skill set. I give you, from the man himself 'I had to get involved in TV poker when I found out the players put up the prize money themselves' Do you remember that comp he filmed in a warehouse at Leyton Orient FC where we had a decent chunk of one of the players and Barry charged the 6 players for the dealers he had provided. Can you imagine turning up to DTD and being told it's 100plus5 entry fee and 50 quid for the dealers wages too? Didn't it end up a 6 way chop coz after about 4 levels the chip leader had about 8 BB so they took their own money back less the dealers fee's and just played it out just to get a 'winner' for the TV. so Barry had a at TV poker episode he could charge ch5 or ch4 or some other TV channel over the odds to show it. Did he film 3 or 4 of them all in one day too? I remember it vividly & quite painfully for all the wrong reasons. I was staying at that hotel in London Colney that the England Football Team used to use as a "base". Rhowena (Colclough) offered to drive us to Leyton Orient's ground, to save us taking 2 cars. Rhow was not exactly the world's greatest navigator, & it took us 3 hours, & we arrived an hour late. Lol @ charging "Dealers Fee", but yeah, it's true. IIRC, Barry was not there that day, but Eddie was. Think they filmed 4 Episodes that day. Not sure, but I think Maria won one of them, a Ladies thing. Maybe 2006? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on January 05, 2015, 01:50:38 PM I'm hoping you got the dough from the share we had and didn't return my bit with your own money?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 02:43:48 PM I remember it vividly & quite painfully for all the wrong reasons. I was staying at that hotel in London Colney that the England Football Team used to use as a "base". Rhowena (Colclough) offered to drive us to Leyton Orient's ground, to save us taking 2 cars. Rhow was not exactly the world's greatest navigator, & it took us 3 hours, & we arrived an hour late. Lol @ charging "Dealers Fee", but yeah, it's true. IIRC, Barry was not there that day, but Eddie was. Think they filmed 4 Episodes that day. Not sure, but I think Maria won one of them, a Ladies thing. Maybe 2006? I played one of those partypoker comps at Leyton Orient as well, and yeah, it was in 2006. The 'World Open', filmed on location at Leyton Orient FC* *in a storage room I was living in Brentford at the time, and a mate of mine who was meant to play it phoned me that morning, and asked if I would take his place, as he had only just gotten home from a night out. I didn't have a clue where it was, but luckily I had satnav, and even I can follow that! Eddie and Beiju were both there, but as you say, no sign of Barry. IIRC, the table was setup right out the back of the building, in a broom cupboard, and there was exposed brickwork everywhere etc. AA bust by KK in level one (50p), but it was ok, because Eddie ordered pizzas for everyone in the 'green room', which was just the other area outside where they were filming :D Guess that one didn't go down too well, as the next one I played was at 3 Mills Lane studios, and they did have a proper green room, with snacks and everything. Amazing that they managed to run them for so long! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 02:55:57 PM I'm hoping you got the dough from the share we had and didn't return my bit with your own money? I can't even remember who we staked! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on January 05, 2015, 04:46:44 PM I'm hoping you got the dough from the share we had and didn't return my bit with your own money? I can't even remember who we staked! Was Mr C, do you still keep in touch with him? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 05, 2015, 04:52:25 PM http://www.theweek.co.uk/sport/61968/gary-anderson-darts-champ-who-cannot-see-the-board?utm_content=buffer65ba7&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Anyone know anything about this? First i have heard of it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 05, 2015, 05:30:19 PM http://www.theweek.co.uk/sport/61968/gary-anderson-darts-champ-who-cannot-see-the-board?utm_content=buffer65ba7&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer Anyone know anything about this? First i have heard of it. He has commented in the past about how bad his eyes are. I don't think they are quite as bad as the article is making out mind you. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 05, 2015, 05:31:46 PM he asks the scorers a lot on obvious stuff though which anyone with decent eyesight would see.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 05:46:36 PM I'm hoping you got the dough from the share we had and didn't return my bit with your own money? I can't even remember who we staked! Was Mr C, do you still keep in touch with him? No, not as such. His exit from blonde made things a little tense between us for a while. He was struggling at the tables, & thought the blonde headaches were contributing to that. Anyway, he sold his Shares, & it was soon clear I had gone from the frying pan to the fire, but that's another story. He also had those little problems with Rhowena. I was friends of both of them, & got caught between them a bit. Both were spying on the other, & wanted me to be their little spy, which of course was impossible. I was working for you at Wm Hill at the time, & we used to do that TV Show, Poker 425 (?), & Rhow, myself, Compo, Billy the Cameraman, Clive Lawrence (who ended up doing Greyhound TV for Sky Sports), & little Steve Meehan, the Producer, (great bloke Steve, loved his horse racing), used to go away most weekends to film TV Tourneys all over Europe, even Vegas. (Compo in Vegas would get a whole chapter if I ever penned a book). So I was up to speed on Rhow's dalliances with you know who, & then Dave started asking me for the inside line. An awkward spot, & so, for a while, both Rhow & Dave got the lip on with me as I was like Manuel in Fawlty Towers, I know nothing. Next I heard, Dave had moved to the Philippines, & we lost touch, Rhow married a geezer from Southampton & I was left holding a blonde baby. Fast forward to about 4 years ago, I bumped into Dave in Vegas. He was doing a Consultants role for Chiptych (sp?) who were trialling a "Live Update" system at the WSOP. It was a bit frosty at first, as we first bumped into each other whilst standing at adjacent urinals, with our hands full, so a handshake was a bit awkward, especially as Dave was rather well-built. We could hardly ignore each other, either. Anyway, we eventually concluded the (e)vac & shake, & started chatting, frostily & defensive at first, but soon we were cool & cuddly wuddly again. We saw a good bit of each other after that, & again the next 2 years in Vegas, & we were like Fonzy. He was not there last year, though, or not that I know. Sorry 'bout the rambling reply, but you jogged a few memory things there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on January 05, 2015, 06:32:24 PM Did Rhowena do (or still do) modelling? I went to a workshop for my camera club a few weeks ago and someone did a little photograph presentation to music and I'm sure it was Rhow in it. The photographer even called it Rhowena, but only her first name. I couldn't ask him as sadly he died a year or so ago, someone else showed it as part of a project.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 07:26:27 PM Did Rhowena do (or still do) modelling? I went to a workshop for my camera club a few weeks ago and someone did a little photograph presentation to music and I'm sure it was Rhow in it. The photographer even called it Rhowena, but only her first name. I couldn't ask him as sadly he died a year or so ago, someone else showed it as part of a project. I don't know, but I would guess so, yes. She did quite a bit of modelling, including a lot of underwater stuff. It was "glamour modelling", not porn, you know, arty farty stuff. She used to have her own website, with galleries & the like, but she got a bit of grief from the usual suspects, so she took it down, or Dave did. We were at the Irish Open one year, doing a big Live Update, & some smartarse spammed the live Update with links to her site, so either Iron or me banned the account who posted the links, it was just someone being nasty. What we never realised, is that we banned the account by IP Address, not username or e-Mail, & in dong so, we banned every single member of blonde who was at the Irish Open, including me & whoever else was doing the Update, (Jen, I think), so not a soul at the Irish Open could access blonde, & the blondes lost their Live Update. Not quite sure how we got from Darts to Glamour Modelling & blonde Live Updates. Carry on, back to the darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 05, 2015, 07:29:10 PM 8 were locks. Pretty much this but I'd even go further and say Chizzy was a lock based on ranking, GSOD final, his heavy scoring and the comical way he says doubles.Chisnall probably deserved a spot after GSOD final. After that it was take your pick from any of a handful of others. Huybrechts make Hearn more money so gets the nod. I'm not sure any of the others can feel all that aggrieved as none of them can really put forward a compelling case as to why they should be in. The only contentious pick for me is Kim over Thornton who has performed reasonably well in PLD, is another heavy scorer and reached the quarters of the Worlds. The fact that there were 2 other Scots in may have just gone against him. Personally I think it's come a year too soon for Kim and Smith and anyone seriously suggesting Dolan can't have watched him very often he's nearly as slow as Pipe. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 05, 2015, 07:32:06 PM Did Rhowena do (or still do) modelling? I went to a workshop for my camera club a few weeks ago and someone did a little photograph presentation to music and I'm sure it was Rhow in it. The photographer even called it Rhowena, but only her first name. I couldn't ask him as sadly he died a year or so ago, someone else showed it as part of a project. I don't know, but I would guess so, yes. She did quite a bit of modelling, including a lot of underwater stuff. It was "glamour modelling", not porn, you know, arty farty stuff. She used to have her own website, with galleries & the like, but she got a bit of grief from the usual suspects, so she took it down, or Dave did. We were at the Irish Open one year, doing a big Live Update, & some smartarse spammed the live Update with links to her site, so either Iron or me banned the account who posted the links, it was just someone being nasty. What we never realised, is that we banned the account by IP Address, not username or e-Mail, & in dong so, we banned every single member of blonde who was at the Irish Open, including me & whoever else was doing the Update, (Jen, I think), so not a soul at the Irish Open could access blonde, & the blondes lost their Live Update. Not quite sure how we got from Darts to Glamour Modelling & blonde Live Updates. Carry on, back to the darts. Rather talk (and watch) glamour models than BDO bbc darts! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 05, 2015, 07:41:47 PM Are we having this chat on your diary or are you going to going to find a link to the darts? Maybe something to do with sewing?
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=25486.msg2010541#msg2010541 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 07:44:25 PM Are we having this chat on your diary or are you going to going to find a link to the darts? Maybe something to do with sewing? http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=25486.msg2010541#msg2010541 Err, yeah, better continue it on my diary, am derailing the darty boys, sorry. :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bobby1 on January 06, 2015, 03:31:24 PM I'm hoping you got the dough from the share we had and didn't return my bit with your own money? I can't even remember who we staked! Was Mr C, do you still keep in touch with him? No, not as such. His exit from blonde made things a little tense between us for a while. He was struggling at the tables, & thought the blonde headaches were contributing to that. Anyway, he sold his Shares, & it was soon clear I had gone from the frying pan to the fire, but that's another story. He also had those little problems with Rhowena. I was friends of both of them, & got caught between them a bit. Both were spying on the other, & wanted me to be their little spy, which of course was impossible. I was working for you at Wm Hill at the time, & we used to do that TV Show, Poker 425 (?), & Rhow, myself, Compo, Billy the Cameraman, Clive Lawrence (who ended up doing Greyhound TV for Sky Sports), & little Steve Meehan, the Producer, (great bloke Steve, loved his horse racing), used to go away most weekends to film TV Tourneys all over Europe, even Vegas. (Compo in Vegas would get a whole chapter if I ever penned a book). So I was up to speed on Rhow's dalliances with you know who, & then Dave started asking me for the inside line. An awkward spot, & so, for a while, both Rhow & Dave got the lip on with me as I was like Manuel in Fawlty Towers, I know nothing. Next I heard, Dave had moved to the Philippines, & we lost touch, Rhow married a geezer from Southampton & I was left holding a blonde baby. Fast forward to about 4 years ago, I bumped into Dave in Vegas. He was doing a Consultants role for Chiptych (sp?) who were trialling a "Live Update" system at the WSOP. It was a bit frosty at first, as we first bumped into each other whilst standing at adjacent urinals, with our hands full, so a handshake was a bit awkward, especially as Dave was rather well-built. We could hardly ignore each other, either. Anyway, we eventually concluded the (e)vac & shake, & started chatting, frostily & defensive at first, but soon we were cool & cuddly wuddly again. We saw a good bit of each other after that, & again the next 2 years in Vegas, & we were like Fonzy. He was not there last year, though, or not that I know. Sorry 'bout the rambling reply, but you jogged a few memory things there. Blimey, I had forgotten most of that. Sounds like a very tricky spot for you. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 06, 2015, 10:50:30 PM Dave Whorley is a great judge of darts, works on something to do with the TV production of BDO, has quite a detailed knowledge. (Told everyone to get on Anderson as early as Feb at 28/1, last year had Wright and Also MVG when he was quite a price) anyway he tweeted that it would be nice if Jeff Smith could get over the line in the BDO. Currently 33/1 with sky. Enough for me to have invested a couple of squid. Good luck if u play. Jeff Smith won 3-1 tonight and is through to play Gary Robson in the last 16. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 06, 2015, 11:02:04 PM Dave Whorley is a great judge of darts, works on something to do with the TV production of BDO, has quite a detailed knowledge. (Told everyone to get on Anderson as early as Feb at 28/1, last year had Wright and Also MVG when he was quite a price) anyway he tweeted that it would be nice if Jeff Smith could get over the line in the BDO. Currently 33/1 with sky. Enough for me to have invested a couple of squid. Good luck if u play. Jeff Smith won 3-1 tonight and is through to play Gary Robson in the last 16. A walk to the quarters then. Anyone that managed to get the 125/1 Is in a nice spot. Only 3/8 Seeds left in top half (and one of them is Robson) compared to 7/8 in bottom half. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 08, 2015, 05:46:10 PM Dave Whorley is a great judge of darts, works on something to do with the TV production of BDO, has quite a detailed knowledge. (Told everyone to get on Anderson as early as Feb at 28/1, last year had Wright and Also MVG when he was quite a price) anyway he tweeted that it would be nice if Jeff Smith could get over the line in the BDO. Currently 33/1 with sky. Enough for me to have invested a couple of squid. Good luck if u play. Jeff Smith won 3-1 tonight and is through to play Gary Robson in the last 16. A walk to the quarters then. Anyone that managed to get the 125/1 Is in a nice spot. Only 3/8 Seeds left in top half (and one of them is Robson) compared to 7/8 in bottom half. Smith through to the quarter finals, plays Robbie Green who is the fav at 4/1, should be a good match up, Green has played well so a big challenge for Smith. Really pleased to see Fallon Sherrock got through to the semi's, would be great to see her in the final, however she has to get through Anastasia first, looking forward to that match more than the mens. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 08, 2015, 05:49:53 PM Dave Whorley is a great judge of darts, works on something to do with the TV production of BDO, has quite a detailed knowledge. (Told everyone to get on Anderson as early as Feb at 28/1, last year had Wright and Also MVG when he was quite a price) anyway he tweeted that it would be nice if Jeff Smith could get over the line in the BDO. Currently 33/1 with sky. Enough for me to have invested a couple of squid. Good luck if u play. Jeff Smith won 3-1 tonight and is through to play Gary Robson in the last 16. A walk to the quarters then. Anyone that managed to get the 125/1 Is in a nice spot. Only 3/8 Seeds left in top half (and one of them is Robson) compared to 7/8 in bottom half. Smith through to the quarter finals, plays Robbie Green who is the fav at 4/1, should be a good match up, Green has played well so a big challenge for Smith. Really pleased to see Fallon Sherrock got through to the semi's, would be great to see her in the final, however she has to get through Anastasia first, looking forward to that match more than the mens. you like tall leggy blondes then omm???? ;D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 08, 2015, 07:51:59 PM Dave Whorley is a great judge of darts, works on something to do with the TV production of BDO, has quite a detailed knowledge. (Told everyone to get on Anderson as early as Feb at 28/1, last year had Wright and Also MVG when he was quite a price) anyway he tweeted that it would be nice if Jeff Smith could get over the line in the BDO. Currently 33/1 with sky. Enough for me to have invested a couple of squid. Good luck if u play. Jeff Smith won 3-1 tonight and is through to play Gary Robson in the last 16. A walk to the quarters then. Anyone that managed to get the 125/1 Is in a nice spot. Only 3/8 Seeds left in top half (and one of them is Robson) compared to 7/8 in bottom half. Smith through to the quarter finals, plays Robbie Green who is the fav at 4/1, should be a good match up, Green has played well so a big challenge for Smith. Really pleased to see Fallon Sherrock got through to the semi's, would be great to see her in the final, however she has to get through Anastasia first, looking forward to that match more than the mens. you like tall leggy blondes then omm???? ;D got a bit of a soft spot for her after backing her last year, kind of a local girl as well as she lives in Milton keynes (i think) and im not too far from there. Be nice for such a youngster to win it, English as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 08, 2015, 09:41:40 PM Record breaking 90+ average from Ashton.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 08, 2015, 10:51:37 PM Never seen Ross the boss play like that in my life. Diff class. Did he average a ton in the end?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 08, 2015, 11:00:37 PM 97 odd he finished on.
I know we slag the BDO off a fair bit but that bullseye that he hit was one of the best darts i have ever seen thrown. The bull was totally blocked, he must have moved at least 2 feet off the oche Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 08, 2015, 11:05:35 PM 97 odd he finished on. I know we slag the BDO off a fair bit but that bullseye that he hit was one of the best darts i have ever seen thrown. The bull was totally blocked, he must have moved at least 2 feet off the oche I know amazing shot. You could tell from his reaction he knew he was smoking hot tonight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on January 09, 2015, 12:22:32 AM I've just watched it 9/1 feels more than fair if he can reproduce that form
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: claypole on January 09, 2015, 08:03:17 PM Smith just destroyed fav - sweat....thanks whoever posted
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 09, 2015, 10:00:33 PM Dave Whorley is a great judge of darts, works on something to do with the TV production of BDO, has quite a detailed knowledge. (Told everyone to get on Anderson as early as Feb at 28/1, last year had Wright and Also MVG when he was quite a price) anyway he tweeted that it would be nice if Jeff Smith could get over the line in the BDO. Currently 33/1 with sky. Enough for me to have invested a couple of squid. Good luck if u play. Jeff Smith won 3-1 tonight and is through to play Gary Robson in the last 16. A walk to the quarters then. Anyone that managed to get the 125/1 Is in a nice spot. Only 3/8 Seeds left in top half (and one of them is Robson) compared to 7/8 in bottom half. Smith through to the quarter finals, plays Robbie Green who is the fav at 4/1, should be a good match up, Green has played well so a big challenge for Smith. Really pleased to see Fallon Sherrock got through to the semi's, would be great to see her in the final, however she has to get through Anastasia first, looking forward to that match more than the mens. Seems not such a challenge for Smith. Wins 5-1 vs Green and through to the semi's. Great to see Fallon through as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 09, 2015, 10:21:11 PM looks a bent heat this darts with fitton on the 5-0 5-1 gamble when they heard about fittons injury!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 09, 2015, 10:29:56 PM looks a bent heat this darts with fitton on the 5-0 5-1 gamble when they heard about fittons injury! Must be in a load of pain......... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 09, 2015, 10:31:47 PM cant beat an aftertimer. The resident after timer shows up on demand!!! happy new year adz!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 09, 2015, 10:37:24 PM cant beat an aftertimer. The resident after timer shows up on demand!!! happy new year adz! WHat are you on about you bellend. I was on it too! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 09, 2015, 10:51:01 PM cant beat an aftertimer. The resident after timer shows up on demand!!! happy new year adz! WHat are you on about you bellend. I was on it too! Haha, incoming....... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 09, 2015, 10:52:52 PM cant beat an aftertimer. The resident after timer shows up on demand!!! happy new year adz! WHat are you on about you bellend. I was on it too! Just confirming your status as the after timing king on fred. Didn't realise you got the sharp info!!!!! ;D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 09, 2015, 10:54:22 PM I see your extended break or turning 40 didn't help you grow up.
Shame Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 09, 2015, 10:56:03 PM I see your extended break or turning 40 didn't help you grow up. Shame are you not the aftertime legend on fred now? If not who has took ur crown? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 09, 2015, 10:57:14 PM Plenty worse than me now bud. Its become a challenge to keep up.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 09, 2015, 11:00:16 PM Plenty worse than me now bud. Its become a challenge to keep up. name and shame. You took enough shit for it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 09, 2015, 11:01:40 PM Plenty worse than me now bud. Its become a challenge to keep up. Confirmed. Adz used to be the best, but he's grown complacent over time and has been overtaken by lots of people far better than him. Obviously, he gets plenty of respect for his former glories, but we all know deep down he's not as good as he used to be. The Arsène Wenger of Aftertiming. ;) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 09, 2015, 11:05:04 PM Adz and Arb on the payroll to keep the post count up :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 09, 2015, 11:05:17 PM Ah. Very Good Tal.
But I am more than happy to step down in place of better aftertimers. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2015, 12:00:35 AM Adz and Arb on the payroll to keep the post count up :D I am getting £20 a post to come back. Assume most of the others are on the same deal! Please come to my bday piss up next week adz in bham. Just tell me the dog results before they happen!!!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 10, 2015, 01:29:41 AM Ok.
But it will have to be after you tell us the outside track bias after the tenth race and trap 1 wins the last two races.... ;whistle; ;bigadz; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2015, 01:40:04 AM Ok. But it will have to be after you tell us the outside track bias after the tenth race and trap 1 wins the last two races.... ;whistle; ;bigadz; Don't fancy including the ones where i say there will be an outside bias before racing starts like i did the other day then first 3 races 654 645 456!!!!! Come on adz u are better than that! ;D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 10, 2015, 01:41:40 AM Oh dear.
Now who can't take the joke......xx ;laxie; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2015, 01:49:52 AM Oh dear. Now who can't take the joke......xx ;laxie; You always bite. That's the only reason you haven't been banned for life! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ironside on January 10, 2015, 01:52:33 AM YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIsTKpAoE4.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 10, 2015, 01:58:16 AM Ffs lads this is embarrassing and no one else really gives a shit, take it somewhere else, the darts thread has been pretty decent.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2015, 02:01:08 AM i agree sorry for bringing aftertiming into this thread.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 10, 2015, 10:03:36 AM Durrant 11/10 looks fair to me. He has been really solid all week and we know how twitchy Adams can get in a tight one.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Chompy on January 10, 2015, 11:31:10 AM lol, wp arb! ;D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 10, 2015, 06:21:46 PM Why doesn't aq player like Robert Thornton switch back to the BDO?
He's vvv unlikely to ever win a major at the PDC even though he's an excellent player. But he'd surely win everything at the BDO Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ironside on January 10, 2015, 06:22:36 PM Why doesn't aq player like Robert Thornton switch back to the BDO? He's vvv unlikely to ever win a major at the PDC even though he's an excellent player. But he'd surely win everything at the BDO sponsors likely Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Skippy on January 10, 2015, 06:52:43 PM Why doesn't aq player like Robert Thornton switch back to the BDO? He's vvv unlikely to ever win a major at the PDC even though he's an excellent player. But he'd surely win everything at the BDO Isn't "everything" one tournament in the Bdo? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 10, 2015, 06:57:31 PM Why doesn't aq player like Robert Thornton switch back to the BDO? He's vvv unlikely to ever win a major at the PDC even though he's an excellent player. But he'd surely win everything at the BDO He will make a lot more $$$ in the PDC ranked in top 10 that he would in the BDO as number 1. To match his earnings (in prize money) he would have be pretty much sweep the boards in the BDO. There is £100k for winning the Lakeside but peanuts for everything else. Thornton has earnt £228k in the PDC order of merit which is on a rolling two years. That doesn't include money won in the GSOD or Premier League both of which are very lucrative. Darts database has hit total earnings for the past two years as £383k. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 10, 2015, 09:16:54 PM Just seen somebody mention that Mitchell lives just up the road from me.
Dorset world champ, one time :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on January 10, 2015, 09:38:54 PM Durrant punished for going for T16 last dart when he had 80 left
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 10, 2015, 09:42:30 PM Just seen somebody mention that Mitchell lives just up the road from me. Dorset world champ, one time :D Hope so bud. Sporting Life chap put him up at 20s. Done him win only. Cover or stick? Was hoping he would be fav after his demolition earlier. Looks unlikey against Wolfie. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 10, 2015, 09:53:15 PM Durrant punished for going for T16 last dart when he had 80 left yeah, schoolboy error Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 10, 2015, 10:02:12 PM Durrant punished for going for T16 last dart when he had 80 left yeah, schoolboy error That is so so so tilting. Going T16 with your last dart with 80 left is beyond bad, I don't care what your favourite double is. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 10, 2015, 10:10:15 PM Just seen somebody mention that Mitchell lives just up the road from me. Dorset world champ, one time :D Hope so bud. Sporting Life chap put him up at 20s. Done him win only. Cover or stick? Was hoping he would be fav after his demolition earlier. Looks unlikey against Wolfie. Would have definitely chucked a few quid at him, f I'd known he was a local lad. Hopefully Wolfie has just played his final, and he gets you weighed in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 10, 2015, 10:13:21 PM Just seen somebody mention that Mitchell lives just up the road from me. Dorset world champ, one time :D Hope so bud. Sporting Life chap put him up at 20s. Done him win only. Cover or stick? Was hoping he would be fav after his demolition earlier. Looks unlikey against Wolfie. Would have definitely chucked a few quid at him, f I'd known he was a local lad. Hopefully Wolfie has just played his final, and he gets you weighed in. He be a Dorset farmer, he wants to buy a tractor with his winnerings. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 10, 2015, 10:19:53 PM Just seen somebody mention that Mitchell lives just up the road from me. Dorset world champ, one time :D Hope so bud. Sporting Life chap put him up at 20s. Done him win only. Cover or stick? Was hoping he would be fav after his demolition earlier. Looks unlikey against Wolfie. Would have definitely chucked a few quid at him, f I'd known he was a local lad. Hopefully Wolfie has just played his final, and he gets you weighed in. He be a Dorset farmer, he wants to buy a tractor with his winnerings. Combine Harvester ;) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2015, 10:22:04 PM http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/darts/30761576
Chaos!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on January 11, 2015, 10:57:38 AM http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/darts/30761576 Chaos!! ......... a gang of Oompa Loompas throwing furniture. Awesome image. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2015, 11:50:18 AM Why doesn't aq player like Robert Thornton switch back to the BDO? He's vvv unlikely to ever win a major at the PDC even though he's an excellent player. But he'd surely win everything at the BDO He will make a lot more $$$ in the PDC ranked in top 10 that he would in the BDO as number 1. To match his earnings (in prize money) he would have be pretty much sweep the boards in the BDO. There is £100k for winning the Lakeside but peanuts for everything else. Thornton has earnt £228k in the PDC order of merit which is on a rolling two years. That doesn't include money won in the GSOD or Premier League both of which are very lucrative. Darts database has hit total earnings for the past two years as £383k. That is an eye watering amount of money for a guy who has never (unless my memory fails me) made a major final. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 11, 2015, 12:00:10 PM Why doesn't aq player like Robert Thornton switch back to the BDO? He's vvv unlikely to ever win a major at the PDC even though he's an excellent player. But he'd surely win everything at the BDO He will make a lot more $$$ in the PDC ranked in top 10 that he would in the BDO as number 1. To match his earnings (in prize money) he would have be pretty much sweep the boards in the BDO. There is £100k for winning the Lakeside but peanuts for everything else. Thornton has earnt £228k in the PDC order of merit which is on a rolling two years. That doesn't include money won in the GSOD or Premier League both of which are very lucrative. Darts database has hit total earnings for the past two years as £383k. That is an eye watering amount of money for a guy who has never (unless my memory fails me) made a major final. Or the exhibition circuit Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2015, 12:08:53 PM Why doesn't aq player like Robert Thornton switch back to the BDO? He's vvv unlikely to ever win a major at the PDC even though he's an excellent player. But he'd surely win everything at the BDO He will make a lot more $$$ in the PDC ranked in top 10 that he would in the BDO as number 1. To match his earnings (in prize money) he would have be pretty much sweep the boards in the BDO. There is £100k for winning the Lakeside but peanuts for everything else. Thornton has earnt £228k in the PDC order of merit which is on a rolling two years. That doesn't include money won in the GSOD or Premier League both of which are very lucrative. Darts database has hit total earnings for the past two years as £383k. That is an eye watering amount of money for a guy who has never (unless my memory fails me) made a major final. Or the exhibition circuit I would probably go and see an a snooker exhibition if the right players were involved. I played on the the adjecent table to Tony Drago once and to see him, close up, in full flow was completely awesome. I guess the pockets of a club table seem like buckets to pros and totally relaxed they can knock virtually anything in. Add a few jokes and trick shots, and it might be an enjoyable night. But what on earth happens at a darts exhibition that makes it worth going to see? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2015, 12:15:15 PM Darts is basically a very easy sport to master. Just throw 3 arrows into a board.
The idea being a good counter is an asset in darts just shows how simple it is. What makes it so compelling is how the players can handle the pressure of performing under huge amounts of pressure. Under zero pressure, why would anyone want to watch, especially as there aren't the personalities like Jimmy White, John Virgo and Ronnie to entertain in the world of daarts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Longines on January 11, 2015, 12:15:35 PM I was about 12 when Jocky Wilson became world champion and he came to my Dad's works social club for an exhibition evening. My Dad volunteered to do a shift behind the bar, I was drafted in to keep the shelves stocked. Jocky was on halves of Barcardi and Coke, *very* light on the Coke. He'd had 7 or 8 by the time the darts actually started.
First leg he was left with 150. Checked out with three bulls. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 11, 2015, 12:19:05 PM Why doesn't aq player like Robert Thornton switch back to the BDO? He's vvv unlikely to ever win a major at the PDC even though he's an excellent player. But he'd surely win everything at the BDO He will make a lot more $$$ in the PDC ranked in top 10 that he would in the BDO as number 1. To match his earnings (in prize money) he would have be pretty much sweep the boards in the BDO. There is £100k for winning the Lakeside but peanuts for everything else. Thornton has earnt £228k in the PDC order of merit which is on a rolling two years. That doesn't include money won in the GSOD or Premier League both of which are very lucrative. Darts database has hit total earnings for the past two years as £383k. That is an eye watering amount of money for a guy who has never (unless my memory fails me) made a major final. He made the GSOD final last year and won the UK Open in 2012. But yeah it's not a bad living for someone who will never be higher than the fringes of the top 10. That's before you add in the money from sponsorship and exhibitions. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2015, 12:20:26 PM I was about 12 when Jocky Wilson became world champion and he came to my Dad's works social club for an exhibition evening. My Dad volunteered to do a shift behind the bar, I was drafted in to keep the shelves stocked. Jocky was on halves of Barcardi and Coke, *very* light on the Coke. He'd had 7 or 8 by the time the darts actually started. First leg he was left with 150. Checked out with three bulls. Very impressive I'm sure. But what about the other 90 minutes or whatever he was performing? There just aren't enough crowd pleasing shots to fill an a whole exhibition IMO. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 11, 2015, 12:24:44 PM I was about 12 when Jocky Wilson became world champion and he came to my Dad's works social club for an exhibition evening. My Dad volunteered to do a shift behind the bar, I was drafted in to keep the shelves stocked. Jocky was on halves of Barcardi and Coke, *very* light on the Coke. He'd had 7 or 8 by the time the darts actually started. First leg he was left with 150. Checked out with three bulls. Very impressive I'm sure. But what about the other 90 minutes or whatever he was performing? There just aren't enough crowd pleasing shots to fill an a whole exhibition IMO. Agreed but they draw in big crowds even for seemingly average/lower profile players. Which is obviously more revenue for the pub e.t.c How many other sports can you have a pint and probably play a leg or two against a professional? Not many Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 11, 2015, 12:43:50 PM Thornton has made 3 PDC major finals winning 1 so maybe not the best example
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2015, 12:48:43 PM Thornton has made 3 PDC major finals winning 1 so maybe not the best example Fair enough, but I was trying to pick a player who would totally dominate the BDO but was just outside the elite of the PDC. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 11, 2015, 12:57:16 PM Thornton has made 3 PDC major finals winning 1 so maybe not the best example Fair enough, but I was trying to pick a player who would totally dominate the BDO but was just outside the elite of the PDC. No evidence of this But if a player like Thornton went to the Bdo i presume his average/consistency would soon drop if he was not playing as regularly and certainly against lesser players? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 01:20:43 PM Thornton has made 3 PDC major finals winning 1 so maybe not the best example Fair enough, but I was trying to pick a player who would totally dominate the BDO but was just outside the elite of the PDC. Players just outside the top of the BPDC wouldn't dominate the BDO imo. You are talking like Thornton would be a 1/2 poke ante post for the BDO world's if he moved. He wouldn't be anywhere near odds on imo to win the BDO worlds. In addition to moving the bdo worlds pays £100k for the winner to headline the prize pool but only £30k to runner up and £15k to semi finalists. You are taking a pretty big risk moving to BDO to win their one major prize every year if you are odds against to win it. There are only maybe 4 players who would dominate in the BDO and be odds on ante post for the bdo world's imo. Taylor, MVG, Ando and maybe Lewis (he isn't as consistent as the others and throws in plenty of shocking performances). Wright, Chizz, Barney, Thorn , Whit and even wade etc would just be at the top of the pack of the bdo's best but not miles clear at all. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2015, 01:41:02 PM Thornton has made 3 PDC major finals winning 1 so maybe not the best example Fair enough, but I was trying to pick a player who would totally dominate the BDO but was just outside the elite of the PDC. Players just outside the top of the BDO wouldn't dominate the BDO imo. You are talking like Thornton would be a 1/2 poke ante post for the BDO world's if he moved. He wouldn't be anywhere near odds on imo to win the BDO worlds. In addition to moving the bdo worlds pays £100k for the winner to headline the prize pool but only £30k to runner up and £15k to semi finalists. You are taking a pretty big risk moving to BDO to win their one major prize every year if you are odds against to win it. There are only maybe 4 players who would dominate in the BDO and be odds on ante post for the bdo world's imo. Taylor, MVG, Ando and maybe Lewis (he isn't as consistent as the others and throws in plenty of shocking performances). Wright, Chizz, Barney, Thorn , Whit and even wade etc would just be at the top of the pack of the bdo's best but not miles clear at all. What price would you have made Thornton for the Lakeside this year? I would have backed him at Evens I think. The standard of the Durrant/Adams semi final was by far the highest I've seen since the split. Yet I still think Thornton would be still be a good jolly to beat either playing at that level. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 01:52:14 PM Thornton has made 3 PDC major finals winning 1 so maybe not the best example Fair enough, but I was trying to pick a player who would totally dominate the BDO but was just outside the elite of the PDC. Players just outside the top of the BDO wouldn't dominate the BDO imo. You are talking like Thornton would be a 1/2 poke ante post for the BDO world's if he moved. He wouldn't be anywhere near odds on imo to win the BDO worlds. In addition to moving the bdo worlds pays £100k for the winner to headline the prize pool but only £30k to runner up and £15k to semi finalists. You are taking a pretty big risk moving to BDO to win their one major prize every year if you are odds against to win it. There are only maybe 4 players who would dominate in the BDO and be odds on ante post for the bdo world's imo. Taylor, MVG, Ando and maybe Lewis (he isn't as consistent as the others and throws in plenty of shocking performances). Wright, Chizz, Barney, Thorn , Whit and even wade etc would just be at the top of the pack of the bdo's best but not miles clear at all. What price would you have made Thornton for the Lakeside this year? I would have backed him at Evens I think. The standard of the Durrant/Adams semi final was by far the highest I've seen since the split. Yet I still think Thornton would be still be a good jolly to beat either playing at that level. As previous poster said he would have had to have played in the BDO all season to qualify for the bdo worlds so he wouldn't be anywhere near as 'match sharp' as he would be if he just jumped over after a brutal PDC season at the very top level. If you factor this in then he would be a much bigger price for the BDO than you think. It's also debatable whether he would have to go to work part time/full time if he was a bdo player. He is also a convicted wife beater which can't help his off the field earnings. I would have happily have laid you Thorntonat evens even if he had jumped straight in from a PDC season which, in theory, he would never be allowed to do. I would have made him a 6/4 - 2/1 fav if he had played. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on January 11, 2015, 01:55:52 PM would Adams ever have made it at PDC level, or never quite good enough?
might Mitchell be good enough? Anderson, Van Barneveld, Bunting are the 3 successful crossovers or are there more? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 01:59:37 PM would Adams ever have made it at PDC level, or never quite good enough? might Mitchell be good enough? Anderson, Van Barneveld, Bunting are the 3 successful crossovers or are there more? Adams would have made it in the PDC in terms of being a consistent top 10-16 player. Think King/Painter/Whitlock rather than Barney and Anderson. People forget Adams is older than Taylor and still providing averages and standard of play like he did yesterday at nearly 60 years old. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 11, 2015, 02:00:01 PM Adams was clearly good enough to compete with the PDC but he has always been one of the most prominent voices against the concept of the PDC.
ArbBet, chalk up each of the following, if they were to go over to the BDO World Champs against the field, assuming good mental preparation: 1) Terry Jenkins 2) Wes Newton 3) Brendan Dolan 4) Paul Nicholson 5) Ian White 6) James Wade 7) Michael Smith 8) Jelle Klaasen Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 02:04:11 PM Adams was clearly good enough to compete with the PDC but he has always been one of the most prominent voices against the concept of the PDC. ArbBet, chalk up each of the following, if they were to go over to the BDO World Champs against the field, assuming good mental preparation: 1) Terry Jenkins 2) Wes Newton 3) Brendan Dolan 4) Paul Nicholson 5) Ian White 6) James Wade 7) Michael Smith 8) Jelle Klaasen Based on the fact they move over in line with the rules of the BDO (ie they can't just jump from the PDC having played full time effectively week in week out) they would have to not play in the PDC for the whole year prior to the bdo champs. I am pretty sure this would take a slight edge off their level of sharpness. My prices are based on said players moving tomorrow to the bdo (not playing in the PDC in 2015) and based on them winning the 2016 BDO world champs. I also assume that only they move in their individual price and not all the others from the PDC you mention as it would obviously affect their price massively. 1) Terry Jenkins 6/1 2) Wes Newton 10/1 3) Brendan Dolan 6/1 4) Paul Nicholson 25/1 5) Ian White 14/1 6) James Wade 2/1 7) Michael Smith 7/2 8) Jelle Klaasen 12/1 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 11, 2015, 02:09:33 PM One other factor on those prices is the pressure of the stage. Some guys are known to be far better on the floor and is the Lakeside anything like as intimidating as any of the PDC Majors? Someone like Ian White, who does well in side comps but whoI can barely remember winning as an underdog on TV might favour the environment.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 02:10:57 PM I might be a little big on Wade at 2/1. I did those prices in 30 seconds combined. I really don't rate Wade though like so many do. All his TV majors are when Taylor got beat without wade beating him. His averages are always pants and he is well known to be fucked up in the head. Also Wade doesn't like playing darts so he would never move to the BDO because he only plays for money. He has often said he would rather be a mechanic, like he used to be, than play darts for a living.
White at 14/1 might be a touch big as well. Dont forget Bunting was a 5/2 shot last year to win the BDO 12 months ago. This will give you some idea of the relative prices i have given. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 11, 2015, 02:16:12 PM Adams would have been top 5 at his peak had he switched imo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 11, 2015, 02:16:33 PM I might be a little big on Wade at 2/1. I did those prices in 30 seconds combined. I really don't rate Wade though like so many do. All his TV majors are when Taylor got beat without wade beating him. His averages are always pants and he is well known to be fucked up in the head. Also Wade doesn't like playing darts so he would never move to the BDO because he only plays for money. He has often said he would rather be a mechanic, like he used to be, than play darts for a living. White at 14/1 might be a touch big as well. Sorry. Yes. I wasn't criticising your odds. Just adding another point that hadn't been mentioned. The likes of Nicholson, Dolan, White, Pipe and so on have looked - to my eyes - to be less comfortable than others with some of the madness of the Pompandcircumstance Darts Corporation. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 02:20:34 PM Adams would have been top 5 at his peak had he switched imo. agreed that's exactly where i think he would have peaked in the PDC had he moved over. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 11, 2015, 02:23:45 PM It's a pity he didn't at least take up his GSOD invites in recent years to test himself.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 02:24:20 PM I might be a little big on Wade at 2/1. I did those prices in 30 seconds combined. I really don't rate Wade though like so many do. All his TV majors are when Taylor got beat without wade beating him. His averages are always pants and he is well known to be fucked up in the head. Also Wade doesn't like playing darts so he would never move to the BDO because he only plays for money. He has often said he would rather be a mechanic, like he used to be, than play darts for a living. White at 14/1 might be a touch big as well. Sorry. Yes. I wasn't criticising your odds. Just adding another point that hadn't been mentioned. The likes of Nicholson, Dolan, White, Pipe and so on have looked - to my eyes - to be less comfortable than others with some of the madness of the Pompandcircumstance Darts Corporation. Nicholson has to be one of the all time greats at self promoting himself to be a world beater when he is absolute dog shit at his chosen career. Year in year out he has proved he is shocking. Averages mid 80s most of the time i have seen him play. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 02:26:14 PM It's a pity he didn't at least take up his GSOD invites in recent years to test himself. I respect him massively for taking his stance and standing by it. He has left £100k's on the table for himself personally doing it. The other thing about the PDC is the brutality of the schedule regarding travelling etc. I don't know for sure but the BDO can't have the same demands and if he values his family life/kids (he might also have outside business interests) etc then it easy to see why he has turned his back on the chance of joining the circus. The bottom line is he 100% stands for the grass roots of darts and the system he came from. I do enjoy watching the darts at the top level without all the 'boring boring tables' bs. I found it amazing in the PDC worlds final that the fans couldnt just watch the match without all the shit. I get it at the Prem league which is an exhibition circus but the biggest darts match of the year the fans can surely show a bit of respect for the players when they are playing for £250k. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 11, 2015, 02:44:50 PM It's a pity he didn't at least take up his GSOD invites in recent years to test himself. I respect him massively for taking his stance and standing by it. He has left £100k's on the table for himself personally doing it. The other thing about the PDC is the brutality of the schedule regarding travelling etc. I don't know for sure but the BDO can't have the same demands and if he values his family life/kids (he might also have outside business interests) etc then it easy to see why he has turned his back on the chance of joining the circus. The bottom line is he 100% stands for the grass roots of darts and the system he came from. I do enjoy watching the darts at the top level without all the 'boring boring tables' bs. I found it amazing in the PDC worlds final that the fans couldnt just watch the match without all the shit. I get it at the Prem league which is an exhibition circus but the biggest darts match of the year the fans can surely show a bit of respect for the players when they are playing for £250k. Think its the last 2 years the PDC organisers have said the crowd can do what they like now. The referee's never ask for order as they used to. I guess they may have thought that when the referees did this it came across as petty and not as fun so may detract people from wanting to go for their night out. Especially the people who have no idea about the darts. Martin Adams would have been solid top 10 in PDC but wouldn't have won a T.V event IMO. James Wade is the same standard he was 5-7 years ago, but unfortunately for him since then the game has gone up 5-10%. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on January 11, 2015, 02:50:06 PM It's a pity he didn't at least take up his GSOD invites in recent years to test himself. I respect him massively for taking his stance and standing by it. He has left £100k's on the table for himself personally doing it. The other thing about the PDC is the brutality of the schedule regarding travelling etc. I don't know for sure but the BDO can't have the same demands and if he values his family life/kids (he might also have outside business interests) etc then it easy to see why he has turned his back on the chance of joining the circus. The bottom line is he 100% stands for the grass roots of darts and the system he came from. I do enjoy watching the darts at the top level without all the 'boring boring tables' bs. I found it amazing in the PDC worlds final that the fans couldnt just watch the match without all the shit. I get it at the Prem league which is an exhibition circus but the biggest darts match of the year the fans can surely show a bit of respect for the players when they are playing for £250k. Think its the last 2 years the PDC organisers have said the crowd can do what they like now. The referee's never ask for order as they used to. I guess they may have thought that when the referees did this it came across as petty and not as fun so may detract people from wanting to go for their night out. Especially the people who have no idea about the darts. Martin Adams would have been solid top 10 in PDC but wouldn't have won a T.V event IMO. James Wade is the same standard he was 5-7 years ago, but unfortunately for him since then the game has gone up 5-10%. i'm not much of a darts fan admittedly, but as a pure casual observer i find PDC almost unwatchable because of the crowd stuff, music, lights etc a great night out for a group of friends i am sure, but it puts me off as someone who likes the sport not the razzamatazz Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2015, 03:05:51 PM It's a pity he didn't at least take up his GSOD invites in recent years to test himself. I respect him massively for taking his stance and standing by it. He has left £100k's on the table for himself personally doing it. The other thing about the PDC is the brutality of the schedule regarding travelling etc. I don't know for sure but the BDO can't have the same demands and if he values his family life/kids (he might also have outside business interests) etc then it easy to see why he has turned his back on the chance of joining the circus. The bottom line is he 100% stands for the grass roots of darts and the system he came from. I do enjoy watching the darts at the top level without all the 'boring boring tables' bs. I found it amazing in the PDC worlds final that the fans couldnt just watch the match without all the shit. I get it at the Prem league which is an exhibition circus but the biggest darts match of the year the fans can surely show a bit of respect for the players when they are playing for £250k. It was so refreshing in the Taylor v Huybrechts game at Ally Pally when the crowd shut up for the last 3 sets and actually watched the action. Had to be one of the most exciting games I can remember for them to do it though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 11, 2015, 03:32:09 PM It's a pity he didn't at least take up his GSOD invites in recent years to test himself. I respect him massively for taking his stance and standing by it. He has left £100k's on the table for himself personally doing it. The other thing about the PDC is the brutality of the schedule regarding travelling etc. I don't know for sure but the BDO can't have the same demands and if he values his family life/kids (he might also have outside business interests) etc then it easy to see why he has turned his back on the chance of joining the circus. The bottom line is he 100% stands for the grass roots of darts and the system he came from. I do enjoy watching the darts at the top level without all the 'boring boring tables' bs. I found it amazing in the PDC worlds final that the fans couldnt just watch the match without all the shit. I get it at the Prem league which is an exhibition circus but the biggest darts match of the year the fans can surely show a bit of respect for the players when they are playing for £250k. It was so refreshing in the Taylor v Huybrechts game at Ally Pally when the crowd shut up for the last 3 sets and actually watched the action. Had to be one of the most exciting games I can remember for them to do it though. I certainly prefer watching the closeness of the audience at The Lakeside compared to the vast expanse of Ally Pally, In fact I would be more likely to go to Frimley Green even though the product is of a lot lower standard, just think the atmosphere in the Ally Pally has gone too far, particually if you do not drink alcohol. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on January 11, 2015, 03:50:06 PM Adams is an interesting one, I'm pretty sure he is/was on the BDO board on something like a £50k salary and very close to Olly Croft so it was a bit easier for him to stay in comparison to the other top BDO players.
In terms of how he would have performed in PDC you've got to remember Taylor wasn't up against much for the best part of 10 years. Priestley was his main opposition then you are looking at the likes of Colin Llyod, Peter Manley, Alan Warriner, Rod Harrington, John Part and Wayne Mardle. Adams easily competes with those and definitely wins titles in that company. As Arb pointed out Adams is giving Taylor 5 years and still playing to a very high standard. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 11, 2015, 05:27:24 PM Adams is an interesting one, I'm pretty sure he is/was on the BDO board on something like a £50k salary and very close to Olly Croft so it was a bit easier for him to stay in comparison to the other top BDO players. In terms of how he would have performed in PDC you've got to remember Taylor wasn't up against much for the best part of 10 years. Priestley was his main opposition then you are looking at the likes of Colin Llyod, Peter Manley, Alan Warriner, Rod Harrington, John Part and Wayne Mardle. Adams easily competes with those and definitely wins titles in that company. As Arb pointed out Adams is giving Taylor 5 years and still playing to a very high standard. Makes u wonder just how long Phil will actually stay at the top level. Could realistically still be there in 10 years? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 11, 2015, 07:32:36 PM The biased commentary from Tony Green is beyond tilting. The "yes yes yes" there as Adams took the 5th set was ridic.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 07:39:46 PM The biased commentary from Tony Green is beyond tilting. The "yes yes yes" there as Adams took the 5th set was ridic. He is the worst in the game either side of the pdc/bdo fence by a mile. His comments are bad enough but his awful smokers voice just makes him even harder to listen to. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on January 11, 2015, 09:20:17 PM Its like Wolfie has him on a bit of elastic.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 11, 2015, 09:23:49 PM Ugh in fairness he couldn't have been closer with the match dart
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 11, 2015, 09:41:59 PM Wins £100,000 and Barry Hearn's 'phone number.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 10:44:38 PM Wins £100,000 and Barry Hearn's 'phone number. No chance he moves to pdc he runs a farm full time could never do the miles. Certain to be a bdo lifer IMO. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 11, 2015, 10:45:41 PM Wins £100,000 and Barry Hearn's 'phone number. No chance he moves to pdc he runs a farm full time could never do the miles. Certain to be a bdo lifer IMO. :D I just had to say it! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 12, 2015, 11:51:44 AM Wins £100,000 and Barry Hearn's 'phone number. No chance he moves to pdc he runs a farm full time could never do the miles. Certain to be a bdo lifer IMO. :D I just had to say it! Apparently he said before the Worlds that if he didn't go to the PDC sometime he would regret it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 12, 2015, 12:52:29 PM James Wilson
Chuck Norris Robbie Green Jan Dekker All confirmed switchers Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 12, 2015, 01:38:46 PM The Coat
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 14, 2015, 06:40:04 PM James Wilson Chuck Norris Robbie Green Jan Dekker All confirmed switchers So Alan Norris hits a nine darter on the first day of Q school. Decker gets knocked out. Green and Norris just have to win a couple more to get their tour cards. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 14, 2015, 06:42:41 PM James Wilson Chuck Norris Robbie Green Jan Dekker All confirmed switchers So Alan Norris hits a nine darter on the first day of Q school. Decker gets knocked out. Green and Norris just have to win a couple more to get their tour cards. Haruki Muramatsu v Jim Walker Nigel Heydon 5-1 Stephen Carrett Prakash Jiwa 5-2 Nick Fullwell Jeffrey de Zwaan 5-0 Paul Milford Carl Abbiss 5-1 James Wilson Alan Norris 5-0 Andrew Johnson Matthew Edgar 5-4 Robbie Green Mike Zuydwijk 5-2 Eddie Dootson Seventh Round v Nigel Heydon Jeffrey de Zwaan 5-1 Prakash Jiwa Carl Abbiss v Alan Norris Matthew Edgar v Mike Zuydwijk Tour Card Winners Jeffrey de Zwaan Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 14, 2015, 06:58:56 PM Chuck gets a card. The three others all long odds on to get their cards by the end of the week also.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on January 15, 2015, 03:18:57 PM I know the thread is probably supposed for pro darts/darts on the tele, but does anyone play darts?
Every year whilst watching the Worlds I think "I must get a board" and this year I finally did. It's a bit harder than I expected and I'm not very good yet. I think I have darts that are too light for me (24g) so have ordered some 26g ones. I did the throw at the bull test and all mine are below which apparently means I need heavier darts. I'm glad I read up on it because I assumed I needed lighter ones to make them go further! Enjoying the game at the moment and hopefully the new darts will help. Short term goal is to improve accuracy and to be able to finish a game out before we get down to double one! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on January 15, 2015, 03:25:17 PM I know the thread is probably supposed for pro darts/darts on the tele, but does anyone play darts? Every year whilst watching the Worlds I think "I must get a board" and this year I finally did. It's a bit harder than I expected and I'm not very good yet. I think I have darts that are too light for me (24g) so have ordered some 26g ones. I did the throw at the bull test and all mine are below which apparently means I need heavier darts. I'm glad I read up on it because I assumed I needed lighter ones to make them go further! Enjoying the game at the moment and hopefully the new darts will help. Short term goal is to improve accuracy and to be able to finish a game out before we get down to double one! You sure you are not getting darts confused with the javelin ? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 15, 2015, 03:37:43 PM I know the thread is probably supposed for pro darts/darts on the tele, but does anyone play darts? Every year whilst watching the Worlds I think "I must get a board" and this year I finally did. It's a bit harder than I expected and I'm not very good yet. I think I have darts that are too light for me (24g) so have ordered some 26g ones. I did the throw at the bull test and all mine are below which apparently means I need heavier darts. I'm glad I read up on it because I assumed I needed lighter ones to make them go further! Enjoying the game at the moment and hopefully the new darts will help. Short term goal is to improve accuracy and to be able to finish a game out before we get down to double one! I have had a board for years, at one stage I was taking it quite serious and practicing everyday. It's actually quite surprising how accurate you can get when you practice for long enough. I structure my sessions to the following 1) round the clock 1-20 a hit any part of the number 2) round the clock 1-20 hit between the double and treble 3) round the clock 1-20 hit between the outer bull and treble 4) round the clock trebles 5) round the clock doubles Of course at the end of each hitting the 25 and Bull I'd started of by logging how many "shots" it took to achieve each target and obviously could see how I was getting better by taking less shots and less time. Also done the standard thing of practicing hitting big scores and checkouts. Try it, you will be surprised how quickly you get accurate or fed up!!!!! Nowadays I just enjoy getting the darts out when the worlds come round. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 15, 2015, 03:49:02 PM My old man used to have a couple teams at the club, and I started playing when I was in my 20s...
Never much good, but used to like 10 pints and a curry on a Monday night :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Graham C on January 15, 2015, 04:19:03 PM A javelin would help, I may have a shout then! Cheers Omm, will give that a go. We're (my Dad and me, it's set up at work :D) are just playing 501 at the moment. Getting down to a checkout is OK but the doubles are taking forever!
Do you know what sort of level do the lower pub divisions play at? (Literally Club Side B, Division 3 type) I'm not sure how you'd gauge it - perhaps darts per game? Time on double? Pints and a curry midweek sounds good! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on June 16, 2015, 08:09:23 PM Adams accepts a Grand Slam spot.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on June 16, 2015, 09:29:06 PM Adams accepts a Grand Slam spot. What's prompted that? Seems like a huge change. Not as big as signing for the PDC, obviously, but that time has passed for both parties. Why join the Grand Slam now? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on June 16, 2015, 09:34:14 PM Adams accepts a Grand Slam spot. What's prompted that? Seems like a huge change. Not as big as signing for the PDC, obviously, but that time has passed for both parties. Why join the Grand Slam now? I'm guessing an expensive divorce and the fact he is now in his 60s with limited earning potential means he can't turn his nose up at free money anymore. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on September 28, 2015, 07:03:34 PM Watch this clip from the 1978 World Darts final (yes, yes, I know I've got too much time on my hands)
What is unusual about it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=212&v=0fbEe-82d7o Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on September 28, 2015, 07:19:31 PM You couldn't finish on the bull?
Guy goes big ten double 20 for the 50 finish Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: KarmaDope on September 28, 2015, 07:23:27 PM You couldn't finish on the bull? Guy goes big ten double 20 for the 50 finish Nah, the other guy went for the bull. They both had 50 left? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nirvana on September 28, 2015, 07:33:38 PM Playing as individuals but wearing 'representative' shirts ?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on September 28, 2015, 09:29:30 PM You couldn't finish on the bull? Guy goes big ten double 20 for the 50 finish Nah, the other guy went for the bull. They both had 50 left? John Lowe had 50 left with 3 darts in his hand. And went straight for the bull?!?!? In the World final! Never seen that before, let alone in the biggest tournament of the year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on October 07, 2015, 02:52:33 AM This Grand Prix is producing ridiculous results.
Taylor, Wade, Lewis, Wright and Chizzy all dumped out and we haven't finished round 2 yet. Is this down to variance or the double to start format? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: swinebag22 on October 07, 2015, 08:15:32 AM This Grand Prix is producing ridiculous results. Taylor, Wade, Lewis, Wright and Chizzy all dumped out and we haven't finished round 2 yet. Is this down to variance or the double to start format? First round is a bit of a crapshoot with it being first to 2 sets, where one bad leg can literally cost you the match. The "double's in" format must also contribute. The second round and beyond has enough sets to allow for a few bad legs so I would say the second round exits are more of a shock than the first round ones, despite the calibre of the respective casualties Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: fatcatstu on October 07, 2015, 11:16:59 AM Really really fancy Anderson for this. Especially with Wade and Taylor out of his half of the draw.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on October 07, 2015, 11:25:14 AM This Grand Prix is producing ridiculous results. Taylor, Wade, Lewis, Wright and Chizzy all dumped out and we haven't finished round 2 yet. Is this down to variance or the double to start format? My ticket for the QFs on Thursday night looks a lot less enticing now - especially with Ireland v Germany on that night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on October 07, 2015, 11:46:28 AM This Grand Prix is producing ridiculous results. Taylor, Wade, Lewis, Wright and Chizzy all dumped out and we haven't finished round 2 yet. Is this down to variance or the double to start format? First round is a bit of a crapshoot with it being first to 2 sets, where one bad leg can literally cost you the match. The "double's in" format must also contribute. The second round and beyond has enough sets to allow for a few bad legs so I would say the second round exits are more of a shock than the first round ones, despite the calibre of the respective casualties The lower ranked players have all played 2 or 3 floor events in the last week as well so they are tuned in a little possibly. Short in format in sets goes against Wade, Chizzy and a few others as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 11, 2015, 01:25:51 AM The format of this Grand Slam of Darts just lends itself to crooked matches.
Dennis Priestley suggested (well actually outright said) that Chris Mason stitched him up to make sure he didn't get through the group stage the last year he played it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 07, 2015, 07:32:02 PM Sanctions surely?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35024363 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 07, 2015, 07:40:53 PM Sanctions surely? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35024363 There have been several dodgy matches in this event. Taylor have a couple of really dodgy looking draws back in the day when Taylor had the league locked up. I remember one against Barney when he was 7-3 up and it finished 7-7 and Taylor was all smiles. Never seen him look so happy coughing up a lead like that to an arch rival. Def looked like Hearn had sorted the draw to keep the league semi interesting to sell tickets for their return game later in the year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 07, 2015, 08:39:21 PM I was sitting as close as you can get to the oche that night directly behind the players and you could see Anderson was absolutely raging and rightly so the crowd were an absolute disgrace. It's a tricky one, there's no way he set out to lose the game that night but he was 3-0 up when the coins started coming down and lost 8-3. To me it looked like he was so angry and embarrassed that he lost the plot and just wanted off stage. He's now given a typical thick darts player interview where he's embellished what happened without thinking about the potential consequences.
I'm pretty sure there's a fair bit of bent coups in the darts I'm fairly sure this wasn't one of them. I've never been back to the darts since and can't see me going back anytime soon, Glasgow should have been taken off the circuit for at least a year after that night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 07, 2015, 11:43:44 PM I was sitting as close as you can get to the oche that night directly behind the players and you could see Anderson was absolutely raging and rightly so the crowd were an absolute disgrace. It's a tricky one, there's no way he set out to lose the game that night but he was 3-0 up when the coins started coming down and lost 8-3. To me it looked like he was so angry and embarrassed that he lost the plot and just wanted off stage. He's now given a typical thick darts player interview where he's embellished what happened without thinking about the potential consequences. I'm pretty sure there's a fair bit of bent coups in the darts I'm fairly sure this wasn't one of them. I've never been back to the darts since and can't see me going back anytime soon, Glasgow should have been taken off the circuit for at least a year after that night. I knew that a bent coup was happening, but the idiot involved played really well early and got into a big lead. With his oppoenent playing terribly, he had to average about 75 to let him back into the match. Still at 5-4 the player who was supposed to lose had a 54 checkout to win. He hit a big 9 (instead of 14) and a big 20 (5) to make sure he didn't get a shot at a double and luckily his opponent made a fairly hard checkout. In the final leg, he didn't hit a score bigger than 60. Disgusting to watch. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 07, 2015, 11:45:58 PM I was sitting as close as you can get to the oche that night directly behind the players and you could see Anderson was absolutely raging and rightly so the crowd were an absolute disgrace. It's a tricky one, there's no way he set out to lose the game that night but he was 3-0 up when the coins started coming down and lost 8-3. To me it looked like he was so angry and embarrassed that he lost the plot and just wanted off stage. He's now given a typical thick darts player interview where he's embellished what happened without thinking about the potential consequences. I'm pretty sure there's a fair bit of bent coups in the darts I'm fairly sure this wasn't one of them. I've never been back to the darts since and can't see me going back anytime soon, Glasgow should have been taken off the circuit for at least a year after that night. I knew that a bent coup was happening, but the idiot involved played really well early and got into a big lead. With his oppoenent playing terribly, he had to average about 75 to let him back into the match. Still at 5-4 the player who was supposed to lose had a 54 checkout to win. He hit a big 9 (instead of 14) and a big 20 (5) to make sure he didn't get a shot at a double and luckily his opponent made a fairly hard checkout. In the final leg, he didn't hit a score bigger than 60. Disgusting to watch. It was like a bent coup that wasn't bent for gambling purposes though. It was bent because Ando is a top guy (far too nice at times in the past stopping him having the killer instinct) really felt sorry for Lewis. I think it would be really harsh if anything was thrown at him for this by the PDC. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: KitKeeper on December 07, 2015, 11:53:27 PM I was sitting as close as you can get to the oche that night directly behind the players and you could see Anderson was absolutely raging and rightly so the crowd were an absolute disgrace. It's a tricky one, there's no way he set out to lose the game that night but he was 3-0 up when the coins started coming down and lost 8-3. To me it looked like he was so angry and embarrassed that he lost the plot and just wanted off stage. He's now given a typical thick darts player interview where he's embellished what happened without thinking about the potential consequences. I'm pretty sure there's a fair bit of bent coups in the darts I'm fairly sure this wasn't one of them. I've never been back to the darts since and can't see me going back anytime soon, Glasgow should have been taken off the circuit for at least a year after that night. I knew that a bent coup was happening, but the idiot involved played really well early and got into a big lead. With his oppoenent playing terribly, he had to average about 75 to let him back into the match. Still at 5-4 the player who was supposed to lose had a 54 checkout to win. He hit a big 9 (instead of 14) and a big 20 (5) to make sure he didn't get a shot at a double and luckily his opponent made a fairly hard checkout. In the final leg, he didn't hit a score bigger than 60. Disgusting to watch. It was like a bent coup that wasn't bent for gambling purposes though. It was bent because Ando is a top guy (far too nice at times in the past stopping him having the killer instinct) really felt sorry for Lewis. I think it would be really harsh if anything was thrown at him for this by the PDC. No chance. He's one of the PDC poster boys and current WC. Barry won't do a thing. Will be the usual sweep it under the carpet job. You can bet your bottom dollar if this was a third tier player like Kevin Painter or something, the book would be thrown. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on December 08, 2015, 12:11:02 AM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.
- Wazza "earn with" Hearn Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 08, 2015, 01:03:12 AM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 08, 2015, 02:53:28 AM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? I think McG is taking the piss. I assume he is. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on December 08, 2015, 07:47:16 AM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? I think McG is taking the piss. I assume he is. Confirmed made up. Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 08, 2015, 03:08:05 PM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? I think McG is taking the piss. I assume he is. Confirmed made up. Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat. A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose. I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 08, 2015, 05:24:46 PM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? I think McG is taking the piss. I assume he is. Confirmed made up. Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat. A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose. I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers. Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 08, 2015, 05:31:05 PM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? I think McG is taking the piss. I assume he is. Confirmed made up. Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat. A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose. I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers. Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased. It is just sheer naivety on Ando's part. He isn't the brightest button in the box. He was just generally talking about the incident without even thinking about the implications because there were no dodgy betting patterns on it. He wasn't involved in any coup because it was a spur of the moment thing. Think it would be very harsh if the book was thrown at him. It isn't going to happen though with him being WC. If it could be proved there were dodgy betting patterns on it then it is a totally different matter but i doubt there was. If you knew it was a bent coup half way through the game then you had a max bet on it in running right? Or are you only saying this after the event? He would have been more severely punished if he refused to play on the night imo. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 08, 2015, 05:45:52 PM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? I think McG is taking the piss. I assume he is. Confirmed made up. Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat. A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose. I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers. Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased. It is just sheer naivety on Ando's part. He isn't the brightest button in the box. He was just generally talking about the incident without even thinking about the implications because there were no dodgy betting patterns on it. He wasn't involved in any coup because it was a spur of the moment thing. Think it would be very harsh if the book was thrown at him. It isn't going to happen though with him being WC. If it could be proved there were dodgy betting patterns on it then it is a totally different matter but i doubt there was. If you knew it was a bent coup half way through the game then you had a max bet on it in running right? Or are you only saying this after the event? He would have been more severely punished if he refused to play on the night imo. I don't think it was a "bent coup" but he was clearly not trying to win. Anyone who had a bet would be entitled to be furious. A pro sportsman should always put in his best effort. As Omm said, if he felt that badly about what was happening he should have walked off, not stopped trying. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 08, 2015, 05:51:32 PM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? I think McG is taking the piss. I assume he is. Confirmed made up. Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat. A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose. I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers. Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased. It is just sheer naivety on Ando's part. He isn't the brightest button in the box. He was just generally talking about the incident without even thinking about the implications because there were no dodgy betting patterns on it. He wasn't involved in any coup because it was a spur of the moment thing. Think it would be very harsh if the book was thrown at him. It isn't going to happen though with him being WC. If it could be proved there were dodgy betting patterns on it then it is a totally different matter but i doubt there was. If you knew it was a bent coup half way through the game then you had a max bet on it in running right? Or are you only saying this after the event? He would have been more severely punished if he refused to play on the night imo. I get what you are saying but just because it was spur of the moment does not make it alright. The punishment needs to fit the crime (Life for Murder not for manslaughter sort of thing) so maybe not throwing the book at him but surely doing nothing should not be an option either. Also I can't see that him being WC should make a difference (I can agree it probably does but shouldn't). As for if I knew it was a bent coup I'd have a max bet in running (I think that's what you are saying), about a year ago I probably would have done but recently I've started getting quite strong feelings and opinions on people doing the right thing and being less selfish for the greater good of society, I think I'm growing up. Whole different can of worms really but to answer your question id like to think I wouldn't for the sake of my own moral compass. Each to their own of course. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on December 08, 2015, 06:24:10 PM Sports are an entertainment product first and betting events second imo
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on December 08, 2015, 10:25:52 PM Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts. - Wazza "earn with" Hearn Have you got a link to where he said that? I think McG is taking the piss. I assume he is. Confirmed made up. Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat. A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose. I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers. Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased. It is just sheer naivety on Ando's part. He isn't the brightest button in the box. He was just generally talking about the incident without even thinking about the implications because there were no dodgy betting patterns on it. He wasn't involved in any coup because it was a spur of the moment thing. Think it would be very harsh if the book was thrown at him. It isn't going to happen though with him being WC. If it could be proved there were dodgy betting patterns on it then it is a totally different matter but i doubt there was. If you knew it was a bent coup half way through the game then you had a max bet on it in running right? Or are you only saying this after the event? He would have been more severely punished if he refused to play on the night imo. I don't think it was a "bent coup" but he was clearly not trying to win. Anyone who had a bet would be entitled to be furious. A pro sportsman should always put in his best effort. As Omm said, if he felt that badly about what was happening he should have walked off, not stopped trying. "Oh but he thought he was doing the right thing" will be the typical defence of Anderson's actions. I do actually agree with everything you say Camel yet it's inevitable all this will be swept under the carpet without any repercussions. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on December 08, 2015, 11:53:25 PM Anderson walking off stage and not finishing that game was not an option that night, believe me. Sometimes there are bigger implications than your acca going down.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 16, 2015, 01:32:26 PM Where's the value then? Top half of the draw looks stacked compared to the bottom.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 01:34:42 PM Where's the value then? Top half of the draw looks stacked compared to the bottom. If you fancy MVG back him in a different way at Hills. Winning nation market hills are evens a Dutch winner. betfair is currently 2.18 MVG. So for giving up a few spots on the MVG price you get a host of other Dutch runners running for you should MVG fail. (Barney, vincent van der voorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt van der voorttttttt vincent can der voorrrrrrrrt nanananananannananaaaaaaaaaaa, Klassen, Dekker and a few other total 1000/1 pokes). Think overall this is a better way to back MVG overall. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 16, 2015, 01:37:19 PM Where's the value then? Top half of the draw looks stacked compared to the bottom. If you fancy MVG back him in a different way at Hills. Winning nation market hills are evens a Dutch winner. betfair is currently 2.18 MVG. So for giving up a few spots on the MVG price you get a host of of other runners running for you should MVG fail. Can't see past MvG. He seems to have another gear to everyone else. 2.25 on Skuy and Hills but it's an account closer imo if you go too big. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on December 16, 2015, 02:22:44 PM Whitlock/VdV to win 3rd Q? Both 14/1 will not be putting a dime on Ando at evens to win the quarter. I like Whitlock at 14s here.
Can't see past MVG for the title obv but would it be worth backing Phil each way at 5/1 (top 2 1/2) given the draw layout? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 02:44:57 PM My idea of a maximum bet for the darts is this:
http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/highest-average-o-u HIghest average in the event being under 107.5 5/6. Only once in the last 3 years has any player averaged over 105 in a match (Barney 108 in 2013 in the first round). Only twice in the last 3 years apart from that 108 average has anyone average 104 or 105 in a world championship match. These matches are long brutal affairs where it is very hard to average such high scores as we are used to in the premier league. Given Taylor is a shadow of his former self with no major wins this year this bet really does look a cracking bet. Apart from Taylor only MVG, Ando and Lewis (on a proper red hot going day) can average 108 at this level. Even then they will struggle at this level/length of match. If the bet hasn't gone over in the first round then it should be effectively weighed in. 107.5 average really is a truely sensational effort to do in any game. 95% of this field literally can't average that in any given game. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 02:48:46 PM http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/will-the-winner-record-the-most-tournament-180s
The other bet i really like as well is this one which has moved from 1.85 to 1.7 (doesn't take bwin much to move a price). Given Taylor is readily opposable (and doesn't ever trouble the 180 charts) whoever wins the world's this year is highly likely to also be the top maximum hitter mainly because they will have the advantage of playing in a best of 13 set final which no one else will bar one other player obviously. No firm is offering a price on which player will get the most 180's but it i was pricing it i would be very short ando and mvg, lewis clear 3rd fav and big prices anyone else. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ledders on December 16, 2015, 03:12:13 PM Boylesports (lol) have it priced up as 5/4 MVG, 2/1 Anderson, 10/1 Lewis and Chisnall, 16-1 Taylor.
Anderson worth a punt then? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 03:23:53 PM Boylesports (lol) have it priced up as 5/4 MVG, 2/1 Anderson, 10/1 Lewis and Chisnall, 16-1 Taylor. Anderson worth a punt then? Only if you strongly fancy him getting to the final. Very hard to win this if you don't get to the final imo given Taylor is never a runner in this market and it is likely two other players to Taylor will be in the final this year. Will be very hard to beat 2 other players with an extra 13 sets of play if you don't make the final. At the prices i could only back MVG at the same price he is to win the event. Yet if he makes the final he prob has the same chance to win this market win or lose but you are getting the same price as if he wins the event compared to just needing to reach the final. The more i think about it MVG is probably a decent bet at 5/4 in this market. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 04:03:57 PM On the back of the previous two posts you might get the impression I really don't like Taylor this year even though i am his biggest fan. I have read a couple of interviews in the local stoke paper and a radio interview on the local radio station and he just seems resigned to not being able to compete at the real top level any more. I have never heard him speak like this before. I think he knows the game and business he has effectively built single handedly for 20 years is over for him now. He said 'I would have loved to play MVG in my prime because it would have been an incredible game'. Stuff like this just makes him sound defeated before he starts to me. This is his first season ever without a tv major and he really shouldn't be 2nd fav for this event tbh on anything other than the Phil Taylor 'badge'. Lewis has stuck up for his old mucker and said 'Phil isn't gone at the game it is just that the others have caught him up'. I don't really buy into this either.
Three players with big pressure on them this year due to the 2 year rolling prize money world rankings are Wright, Lewis and Whitlock. They all made the semis in 2014 (Wright finalled) so they have big money to defend this year to protect their rankings (£50k for semis/£100k for final from 2014). Conversely Taylor went out in the 2nd round in 2014 so has nothing to defend. Whitlock will be the biggest loser unless he miracles another deep run. His gambling/drinking demons will have caught up with his world ranking after this event and it is highly likely he will fall outside the top 16 for the start of next season. He will know this totally and the impact of his future draws/earnings from next year onwards and will definitely be feeling the pressure and i would strongly be looking to oppose in most markets. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35015787 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35060049 Couple of interesting articles here. Anderson just doesn't have that killer instinct if you read his comments in these for me. He talks like a happy man having already won the worlds. Whereas Taylor and MVG just want to keep winning relentlessly. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2015, 04:25:06 PM It's a very decent bet. If he makes the final against anyone other than Anderson he would already be weighed in.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 04:28:15 PM It's a very decent bet. If he makes the final against anyone other than Anderson he would already be weighed in. It is pretty much like backing MVG to make the final at the same price as he is to win the event (with the disclaimer you make about ando making the final with him) The only potential worry is that he literally hoses up to the final 3-0 4-0 5-0 every round and doesn't actually play that many sets on route to the final. You can actually be playing 'too well' sometimes for these bets if you get my drift and don't actually log a lot of actual sets/legs during the event. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2015, 04:31:20 PM On the back of the previous two posts you might get the impression I really don't like Taylor this year even though i am his biggest fan. I have read a couple of interviews in the local stoke paper and a radio interview on the local radio station and he just seems resigned to not being able to compete at the real top level any more. I have never heard him speak like this before. I think he knows the game and business he has effectively built single handedly for 20 years is over for him now. He said 'I would have loved to play MVG in my prime because it would have been an incredible game'. Stuff like this just makes him sound defeated before he starts to me. This is his first season ever without a tv major and he really shouldn't be 2nd fav for this event tbh on anything other than the Phil Taylor 'badge'. Lewis has stuck up for his old mucker and said 'Phil isn't gone at the game it is just that the others have caught him up'. I don't really buy into this either. Three players with big pressure on them this year due to the 2 year rolling prize money world rankings are Wright, Lewis and Whitlock. They all made the semis in 2014 (Wright finalled) so they have big money to defend this year to protect their rankings (£50k for semis/£100k for final from 2014). Conversely Taylor went out in the 2nd round in 2014 so has nothing to defend. Whitlock will be the biggest loser unless he miracles another deep run. His gambling/drinking demons will have caught up with his world ranking after this event and it is highly likely he will fall outside the top 16 for the start of next season. He will know this totally and the impact of his future draws/earnings from next year onwards and will definitely be feeling the pressure and i would strongly be looking to oppose in most markets. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35015787 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35060049 Couple of interesting articles here. Anderson just doesn't have that killer instinct if you read his comments in these for me. He talks like a happy man having already won the worlds. Whereas Taylor and MVG just want to keep winning relentlessly. I've opposed both Taylor and Anderson in the bottom half. Bwin had some silly prices in the to make final market which didn't take in to account the lop sided nature of the draw but they have fixed them now. Taylor has buckled too many times under pressure recently for it to be a coincidence and Anderson doesn't have the same fire in his belly as he had last year. I've been hoping Chisnall and Smith would end up in this half all year due to my ante post positions on them but it wasn't to be. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 16, 2015, 05:21:50 PM MVG (5/4) form in the run up has just been insane as well, and over the whole year too pretty much. He's fucking unstoppable.
Garry (15/2) really hasn't quite found the form of this time last year since the premier league, but looks to have a pretty smooth ride into the 1/4's where he is favorite to face James Wade, who is a fucking nightmare to play for anyone and if you dont play your A game you tend to get beat - but he's shown this year despite all the bottle hes just a level below the top guys, Taylor (who he beat in the final last year) is the favorite to face him in the Semi, I think Garry will be really happy with his draw, but tailed off on the scoring and dropped a few % on the dbl top this yr which is basically what won him the title last yr. Lewis 20/1 is phenomenal when he's on it but the inconsistency just makes him un-backable if you care for your living room furniture, basically ever since that 6-0 drumming by MVG he's never found the form consistently since (I honestly thought he was going to win the whole thing that year, and I think he did too) and I think it still plays on his mind when he plays MVG. His path to the latter stages is fraught with danger too, Huybrechts in rd 3, Peter Wright/Chizzy in the quarters and then obviously a repeat of 2013 semi if he can get there. He is world class though and likes the long format...but I can just see his head dropping too easily of late and a little too much quality to get past to have a real shout, even with such attractive odds :( I love watching him on form too. Phil Taylor 5/1 definitely looks to me like the most likely candidate to beat MVG, he's been consistently solid all year but but his failings under pressure at the dbl 8/16 segment is what has cost him, 3 yrs ago with 2 darts in hand at dbl 16 you can bet your house on him finishing it off, these days though not so much - the fact that his averages are still up to scratch with the best despite his starting to fail on the doubles show how good his scoring is and he's still easily got the game to win the WC/ stop the MVG wrecking ball. On a stage he has dominated I could see him finding his nerve again and if he does MVG needs to be at his best to get him. His route to the semi's is full of journeymen pro's - Kevin Painter in rnd2, probably Jelle Klasen given Mervyn King's poor form in rnd3 (I realise he's no journyman but I doubt will cause too much worry for PT) and Webster/Jenkins/Thornton/Hamilton in the 1/4's. Seems like a lock for the semi's his scoring power is too much for anyone he will face and he'll get plenty of chances to hit those doubles (except Jelle Klassen potentially but so inconsistent) and can all have changed by the time we reach the semis... James Wade 25-1 Quarter final vs Garry and a Semi vs Phil look like a little too much to overcome for wadey, think he's a lock to get there though. Barney 60/1 Can he do it? :) Go on Barny, out of form Bunting in rnd.2, MVG rnd.3, Micheal Smith in the 1/4's, Lewis/Wright/Chizzy in the Semi and then Garry or Phil in the final... Barny is one of the few genuinely capable of beating MVG, in fact very capable of beating anyone but this is too much to contemplate for Barny :( Sorry buddy... Chizzy 35/1 / Peter Wright 28/1 Tough part of the draw, both in good form, Wright the favorite of the two due to his pedigree in this event, his world ranking and the fact he is generally considered to have a little more metal. I kinda fancy chizzy to have a go at it this year... Think with Lewis' inconsistency I really fancy finding a semi-finalist from these two :) Peter Wright losing to Chizzy 4-9 head-to-head and despite all these being over shorter formats I think Chizzy is the pick. I dont believe either can pose much of a threat to MVG the way things stand. My bets are going to be... Phil Taylor win 4/1 betfred EW (top 4 1/4 odds) Chizzy to bust in the semi's 7/1 James Wade to bust in the Quarter's 9/4 Completely with Arrboy on U107.5 highest average. I also think a small wager on Chizzy most 180s 10/1 - Garry's 180 figures have slipped a little, and given I fancy chizzy to make the semi's, and have two potentially long matches vs Peter Wright and Adrian Lewis, I think he's the one for me. MVG at evens is probably the best bet even though you would have to be mad to bet it!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 16, 2015, 05:22:57 PM I actually genuinely dont have a clue what im talking about though but it's fun to pretend.
Ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba OI OI OI ;yippee; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 05:38:01 PM MVG (5/4) form in the run up has just been insane as well, and over the whole year too pretty much. He's fucking unstoppable. Garry (15/2) really hasn't quite found the form of this time last year since the premier league, but looks to have a pretty smooth ride into the 1/4's where he is favorite to face James Wade, who is a fucking nightmare to play for anyone and if you dont play your A game you tend to get beat - but he's shown this year despite all the bottle hes just a level below the top guys, Taylor (who he beat in the final last year) is the favorite to face him in the Semi, I think Garry will be really happy with his draw, but tailed off on the scoring and dropped a few % on the dbl top this yr which is basically what won him the title last yr. Lewis 20/1 is phenomenal when he's on it but the inconsistency just makes him un-backable if you care for your living room furniture, basically ever since that 6-0 drumming by MVG he's never found the form consistently since (I honestly thought he was going to win the whole thing that year, and I think he did too) and I think it still plays on his mind when he plays MVG. His path to the latter stages is fraught with danger too, Huybrechts in rd 3, Peter Wright/Chizzy in the quarters and then obviously a repeat of 2013 semi if he can get there. He is world class though and likes the long format...but I can just see his head dropping too easily of late and a little too much quality to get past to have a real shout, even with such attractive odds :( I love watching him on form too. Phil Taylor 5/1 definitely looks to me like the most likely candidate to beat MVG, he's been consistently solid all year but but his failings under pressure at the dbl 8/16 segment is what has cost him, 3 yrs ago with 2 darts in hand at dbl 16 you can bet your house on him finishing it off, these days though not so much - the fact that his averages are still up to scratch with the best despite his starting to fail on the doubles show how good his scoring is and he's still easily got the game to win the WC/ stop the MVG wrecking ball. On a stage he has dominated I could see him finding his nerve again and if he does MVG needs to be at his best to get him. His route to the semi's is full of journeymen pro's - Kevin Painter in rnd2, probably Jelle Klasen given Mervyn King's poor form in rnd3 (I realise he's no journyman but I doubt will cause too much worry for PT) and Webster/Jenkins/Thornton/Hamilton in the 1/4's. Seems like a lock for the semi's his scoring power is too much for anyone he will face and he'll get plenty of chances to hit those doubles (except Jelle Klassen potentially but so inconsistent) and can all have changed by the time we reach the semis... James Wade 25-1 Quarter final vs Garry and a Semi vs Phil look like a little too much to overcome for wadey, think he's a lock to get there though. Barney 60/1 Can he do it? :) Go on Barny, out of form Bunting in rnd.2, MVG rnd.3, Micheal Smith in the 1/4's, Lewis/Wright/Chizzy in the Semi and then Garry or Phil in the final... Barny is one of the few genuinely capable of beating MVG, in fact very capable of beating anyone but this is too much to contemplate for Barny :( Sorry buddy... Chizzy 35/1 / Peter Wright 28/1 Tough part of the draw, both in good form, Wright the favorite of the two due to his pedigree in this event, his world ranking and the fact he is generally considered to have a little more metal. I kinda fancy chizzy to have a go at it this year... Think with Lewis' inconsistency I really fancy finding a semi-finalist from these two :) Peter Wright losing to Chizzy 4-9 head-to-head and despite all these being over shorter formats I think Chizzy is the pick. I dont believe either can pose much of a threat to MVG the way things stand. My bets are going to be... Phil Taylor win 4/1 betfred EW (top 4 1/4 odds) Chizzy to bust in the semi's 7/1 James Wade to bust in the Quarter's 9/4 Completely with Arrboy on U107.5 highest average. I also think a small wager on Chizzy most 180s 10/1 - Garry's 180 figures have slipped a little, and given I fancy chizzy to make the semi's, and have two potentially long matches vs Peter Wright and Adrian Lewis, I think he's the one for me. MVG at evens is probably the best bet even though you would have to be mad to bet it!!! Great write up! The more you think about MVG it seems like the Hendry/Davis era of snooker when they went off really short every day in the pomp but just truely hosed up year after year. Similar to Taylor/Fed as well. You spend all week trying to get the jolly beat when the jolly is probably over priced. Would love you to meet Painter and King irl and call them journeymen to their face. ;D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 16, 2015, 05:52:50 PM yeah, no will be Mr. King and Mr. Painter for sure :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 05:58:08 PM yeah, no will be Mr. King and Mr. Painter for sure :) Two proper Suffolk/Norfolk pikeys! That would be my description of them. Both hard as fuck obv! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 07:36:25 PM http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/nine-dart-finish
Obviously value in this market because it's an arb but i really think with Taylor in decline the chance of a 9 darter is massively over estimated here. Can't have it that it is such a big fav. 7/4 no 9 darter looks massive to me. Any one got any views? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 07:48:02 PM Most Tournament 180s
Selection Price Van Gerwen, Michael EVS Anderson, Gary 7/2 Lewis, Adrian 8/1 Chisnall, Dave 8/1 Taylor, Phil 9/1 Wright, Peter 20/1 Smith, Michael 33/1 Van Barneveld, Raymond 40/1 Huybrechts, Kim 40/1 Thornton, Robert 40/1 Wade, James 50/1 White, Ian 50/1 Jenkins, Terry 66/1 Whitlock, Simon 66/1 Van Der Voort, Vincent 100/1 King, Mervyn 100/1 Bald's list. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 08:07:29 PM http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/winning-quarter
Another interesting way to back MVG with some insurance. Evens first quarter wins the event. You also get Barney, Smith, Bunting, Ian White amongst others on your side. All of whom are lively outsiders. Much better overall bet than taking 5/4 MVG. Would be awesome to back this and Big John Henderson got you home for a winner! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 16, 2015, 08:15:42 PM http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/nine-dart-finish Obviously value in this market because it's an arb but i really think with Taylor in decline the chance of a 9 darter is massively over estimated here. Can't have it that it is such a big fav. 7/4 no 9 darter looks massive to me. Any one got any views? I thought of that, onyl didnt say cos I hate backing on stuff not to happen, no fun :( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2015, 08:16:09 PM http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/nine-dart-finish Obviously value in this market because it's an arb but i really think with Taylor in decline the chance of a 9 darter is massively over estimated here. Can't have it that it is such a big fav. 7/4 no 9 darter looks massive to me. Any one got any views? It has copped in 6 of last 7 year (total of 8 in that time). I don't have any stats to back it up but I don't remember seeing as many 9 dart attempts as I have this year. Conversion rate has been terrible (MVG has missed something like 8) but that's down to variance. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 08:17:54 PM http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/nine-dart-finish Obviously value in this market because it's an arb but i really think with Taylor in decline the chance of a 9 darter is massively over estimated here. Can't have it that it is such a big fav. 7/4 no 9 darter looks massive to me. Any one got any views? I thought of that, onyl didnt say cos I hate backing on stuff not to happen, no fun :( Action junkie. It is boring compared to knowing someone who has £200 on a 2000/1 poke which is now 20/1. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 08:22:24 PM http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/nine-dart-finish Obviously value in this market because it's an arb but i really think with Taylor in decline the chance of a 9 darter is massively over estimated here. Can't have it that it is such a big fav. 7/4 no 9 darter looks massive to me. Any one got any views? It has copped in 6 of last 7 year (total of 8 in that time). I don't have any stats to back it up but I don't remember seeing as many 9 dart attempts as I have this year. Conversion rate has been terrible (MVG has missed something like 8) but that's down to variance. Surprised a firm hasn't priced up a market 'which player will get the first 9 darter?' Pretty easy to price up and they could stick plenty of margin into it. Would definitely appeal to the punters imo. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2015, 09:12:22 PM I like the 13/8 on Laursen to win the opener tomorrow. He has been a regular over the years and usually averages 87-90. Boulton isn't any better than that on stage. He averaged 87, 90, 89 in his 3 matches at the GSOD but a couple of those were inflated due to his opponents averaging 100+. His only other TV form was at the Lakeside a few years back where he averaged high 80s.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on December 17, 2015, 05:49:39 PM http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/nine-dart-finish Obviously value in this market because it's an arb but i really think with Taylor in decline the chance of a 9 darter is massively over estimated here. Can't have it that it is such a big fav. 7/4 no 9 darter looks massive to me. Any one got any views? It has copped in 6 of last 7 year (total of 8 in that time). I don't have any stats to back it up but I don't remember seeing as many 9 dart attempts as I have this year. Conversion rate has been terrible (MVG has missed something like 8) but that's down to variance. Surprised a firm hasn't priced up a market 'which player will get the first 9 darter?' Pretty easy to price up and they could stick plenty of margin into it. Would definitely appeal to the punters imo. There is a market for "to hit a 9 darter" (http://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/to-hit-a-9-darter) where PP seem to be much bigger than the others on most players. (6/1 MVG) Any value there or are the rest just really tight? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 18, 2015, 11:08:05 AM I like the 13/8 on Laursen to win the opener tomorrow. He has been a regular over the years and usually averages 87-90. Boulton isn't any better than that on stage. He averaged 87, 90, 89 in his 3 matches at the GSOD but a couple of those were inflated due to his opponents averaging 100+. His only other TV form was at the Lakeside a few years back where he averaged high 80s. Should have been a lock at 1-1 in sets and 2-0 in legs with 2 darts at double. Never mind. Think id prefer snakeyb EW at 28's to chizzy 33's. Wright been pretty consistant in the tv tournaments this year and doesn't seem to lose the "easy" games that chizzy is capable of when he just has one of them off days. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: fatcatstu on December 18, 2015, 02:19:39 PM Watching Qiang Sun finish is like watching me and my mates down the pub. 2 darts completely off the board in the first set.
He is scoring well enough, but the nerves are killing him on the doubles. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 18, 2015, 02:57:12 PM Great start for me last night on my favourite punting event.
On Big John here. Gl lads. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 18, 2015, 03:24:50 PM Wow, Big John has absolutely capitulated. Hard to watch!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 18, 2015, 03:27:36 PM Commentators always go wild about Hendo. I've never seen anything to rave about myself. Journeyman would be optimistic.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: fatcatstu on December 18, 2015, 03:35:08 PM Pipe on next.
Means Webster should be on stage about 10pm tonight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 18, 2015, 09:54:28 PM Pipe on next. Means Webster should be on stage about 10pm tomorrow FYP Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: fatcatstu on December 18, 2015, 10:49:17 PM Pipe on next. Means Webster should be on stage about 10pm tomorrow FYP Touche!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: verndog158 on December 18, 2015, 11:46:15 PM Bloody love the darts!! MVG could be heading home!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ledders on December 18, 2015, 11:50:17 PM Fucking hell!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: fatcatstu on December 18, 2015, 11:51:26 PM Errrm who is this little fat German???
This is superb!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on December 18, 2015, 11:55:36 PM That was awesome. Couldn't take my eyes off it.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 18, 2015, 11:57:00 PM Incredible stuff.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: JohnCharver on December 19, 2015, 12:02:08 AM well arbboy did want him to have longer games to maximise 180 possibilities lol
Sure I seen sky going evens the german didnt win a leg. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 19, 2015, 12:29:13 AM Mvg was 1/20 to win 3-0.
Don't think Iv sweated a match so much. Nearly ruined my Christmas!! Love The Cube. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 19, 2015, 09:47:40 PM On the back of the previous two posts you might get the impression I really don't like Taylor this year even though i am his biggest fan. I have read a couple of interviews in the local stoke paper and a radio interview on the local radio station and he just seems resigned to not being able to compete at the real top level any more. I have never heard him speak like this before. I think he knows the game and business he has effectively built single handedly for 20 years is over for him now. He said 'I would have loved to play MVG in my prime because it would have been an incredible game'. Stuff like this just makes him sound defeated before he starts to me. This is his first season ever without a tv major and he really shouldn't be 2nd fav for this event tbh on anything other than the Phil Taylor 'badge'. Lewis has stuck up for his old mucker and said 'Phil isn't gone at the game it is just that the others have caught him up'. I don't really buy into this either. Three players with big pressure on them this year due to the 2 year rolling prize money world rankings are Wright, Lewis and Whitlock. They all made the semis in 2014 (Wright finalled) so they have big money to defend this year to protect their rankings (£50k for semis/£100k for final from 2014). Conversely Taylor went out in the 2nd round in 2014 so has nothing to defend. Whitlock will be the biggest loser unless he miracles another deep run. His gambling/drinking demons will have caught up with his world ranking after this event and it is highly likely he will fall outside the top 16 for the start of next season. He will know this totally and the impact of his future draws/earnings from next year onwards and will definitely be feeling the pressure and i would strongly be looking to oppose in most markets. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35015787 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35060049 Couple of interesting articles here. Anderson just doesn't have that killer instinct if you read his comments in these for me. He talks like a happy man having already won the worlds. Whereas Taylor and MVG just want to keep winning relentlessly. RIP Whitlock at the elite level! Proper choke job tonight from 2-0 up. Hope you followed me in guys! You can really see his drinking in his face imo. GL getting back in the top 16 Wizard you will need it. chunks done at 1.01 in running. bf forum warriors saying 'that's another chunk paid off his debt' assuming he is throwing matches to pay off his gambling issues. The kid who beat him could play VVDV over 9 sets and the match would be done in 20 minutes the speed he throws at. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on December 19, 2015, 11:53:40 PM Enjoyed the Taylor interview. He's pretty bullish about raising his level again to take on MVG and get to 20 titles but tough to see it happening.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 21, 2015, 08:19:52 PM Was in Billy Hills collecting darts' winnings from last night (brag!) and couldn't resist betting two of their specials in true Ice-Cream style.
They went 10/1 Smith 3-0 and Thornton 3-0 and 25/1 Smith/Thornton/Michael win to nil. Lets go! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 21, 2015, 08:46:58 PM Sigh, it appears the shite Thornton has turned up tonight. Sweat over.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on December 23, 2015, 07:36:36 PM Unless i'm missing something, it looks like the "match treble" betting on Billy Hills for the Gerwyn game is out of whack. 8/1 for the fave to win match, get most 180's and highest checkout. Appreciate he's the underdog for the 180 part but he's a flip for checkout and fave for the match.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on December 23, 2015, 08:13:35 PM Obv Gilding then binks a 132 in Leg 1 to practically kill it off the bat. Lovely.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 26, 2015, 09:47:39 PM Cracking game here. Big finishes, high averages and a potential huge upset!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: hummuspie on December 27, 2015, 06:34:58 PM can anyone point me to any websites which have previous darts data eg no of 180's scored
tried searching but cant find anything like what flashscores does for football Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 30, 2015, 11:02:01 AM Tonights games are puntery heaven!
No real ricks from anyone but the games are all close so tons of chances to get em :) A simple Chizzy/Webster/Klaasen treble is actually pretty appealing for a decent sweat, I think Mark Webster is a little too long for this game I think Ol' Chuck might have a bottle in him on this stage tonight and Mark Webster is looking pretty solid - 10/11 Looks like the one I even went in for a little bit on MW -1.5 at 6/4. I think chizzy/PW is flipping coins so evens on Chizzy is absolutely fine for me. Klassen Taylor game should really be avoided but IDK fuck it I'll go for a lil 100/30 on JK just cos I can bet less and win more. Love the darts Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on December 30, 2015, 11:39:10 AM Tonights games are puntery heaven! No real ricks from anyone but the games are all close so tons of chances to get em :) A simple Chizzy/Webster/Klaasen treble is actually pretty appealing for a decent sweat, I think Mark Webster is a little too long for this game I think Ol' Chuck might have a bottle in him on this stage tonight and Mark Webster is looking pretty solid - 10/11 Looks like the one I even went in for a little bit on MW -1.5 at 6/4. I think chizzy/PW is flipping coins so evens on Chizzy is absolutely fine for me. Klassen Taylor game should really be avoided but IDK fuck it I'll go for a lil 100/30 on JK just cos I can bet less and win more. Love the darts Love this Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 31, 2015, 12:30:09 AM What a sport!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Weetabix on December 31, 2015, 12:46:59 AM Sky make it great viewing. Do you guys think Jelle can win big title after big title if he starts believing more in himself? He is such a blistering player when he puts it together.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2015, 01:52:57 AM Sky make it great viewing. Do you guys think Jelle can win big title after big title if he starts believing more in himself? He is such a blistering player when he puts it together. I wouldn't have thought so. His action is such that he will always be inconsistent and likely to throw in a bad one (he got away with one against King in previous round). That said when it clicks like it did tonight he can be very very good. I'm not sure he can put enough performances like that together though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 31, 2015, 02:35:19 AM Fascinating tournament now. Garry is straight up loving his draw now, the other side is so tough either of the 4 could easily be in the final.
Lewis vs Wright is a great match up, oodles of talent and close to unstoppable at his best Adrian Lewis, Peter Wright exactly the sort opponent who can unsettle him, never out of a leg, never misses big doubles and so reliable. Barney vs Smith another cracker...two men with a piont to prove, one desperately wants to show the world's he's as good as ppl say he is...the other desperately wants to show the world he's still as good as he's ever been, and he has the grit to win another WC. The two outsiders both play each other so will have one in the semi for sure. Both will love thier draw. I think james wade vs garry garry garry is the simplest game to call tbh. Garry too good and will be so pumped up following pt and mvg exits, wade a bit ill, not at the top of his form abd doesn't have the A game to compete with garry. Every other game could go either way :-) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2015, 10:28:27 AM Why the big increase in scoring?
there cant be any technological improvements in the darts it might be better mental concentration and fitness? or is it just more professionalism and practice lifting the overall standard compared to the scoring seen in previous generations? there is more depth in the game now too, which might be a factor?. for a decade it was taylor and then the rest. now its far more competitive Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2015, 11:04:57 AM The extra £££ on offer nowadays is the main reason for standards rising.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 31, 2015, 11:06:53 AM The extra £££ on offer nowadays is the main reason for standards rising. This. I reckon there must be 50 darts players a year making £100k a year all in with prize money, sponsors, exhibitions etc. Big business now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2015, 11:08:45 AM ty
so Barry Hearn has been great news for the sport? secondly, with the BDO coming up, why do players choose to play there rather than attempt the PDC? the BDO is amateur, county system based etc? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 31, 2015, 11:10:41 AM ty so Barry Hearn has been great news for the sport? secondly, with the BDO coming up, why do players choose to play there rather than attempt the PDC? the BDO is amateur, county system based etc? Please, no trolling. PS - should be "Sir Barry Hearn". Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2015, 11:12:10 AM it was a serious question
in snooker, where he has shook up the circuit, he's met a lot of resistance. not the case in darts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on December 31, 2015, 11:16:19 AM Gotta be dream come true stuff for Norris on his debut
He's had to beat the ghost of Robert Thornton, a qualifier and the #22 seed and he's locked up £35k with a decent shot at another £35k if Klaasen doesn't show up Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 31, 2015, 11:18:46 AM Darts was on its knees when sky sports took over the product after the split. Even the top players were struggling to survive financially just on the circuit (which was why Bobby George was always more interested in playing the exhibition circuit back then and made fortunes from doing so - a lot more than far more successful players did in that era who played the circuit).
Hearn is just a master salesman. He expanded the worlds to 64 runners (it used to start after xmas) for a week before xmas to basically sell 25000 tickets (and 10 pints of lager at a fiver a pop) to hundreds of work's xmas parties. He just gets what the public wants and gives it to them. He also gets what the sponsors (generally betting firms now the smoking ban has arrived) want and provides them with a perfect made for tv/punting for wagons product which they love. Putting the premier league on a thurs night when there is very little else to bet on was a master stroke. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 31, 2015, 11:22:55 AM it was a serious question in snooker, where he has shook up the circuit, he's met a lot of resistance. not the case in darts? Snooker players seem much more lazy than darts players generally and were used to only playing 6 events a year and didn't fancy the long distance travel around the world to promote the sport (esp China). The one's who have treated it like a business/job and put the hours in have thrived (bingham springs to mind after being a proper top 32 journeyman for a decade or more becomes world champion and finds form he never could in the old days) mainly due to a 2 year rankings system which massively benefited those already in the top 16. You really had to fuck up to fall out of the top 16 in snooker 15 years ago. You were gifted about £50k a year in prize money in the mid 1990's just by turning up to the first round of events you auto qualified for. That has all gone now. 2 year money list like darts and the uk open (one of the big 3 events of the year) is totally open format where all the big boys have to enter at the round of 128 not 32 as previous. Hearn doesn't like pampered sportsmen who think the world owes them a living (Ronnie aside!) and has the attitude if you don't want to treat it like a job then get a job. Mark Allen took him on and lost in this type of battle when he piped up over the changes. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2015, 11:27:02 AM ty so Barry Hearn has been great news for the sport? secondly, with the BDO coming up, why do players choose to play there rather than attempt the PDC? the BDO is amateur, county system based etc? Very much so. Before the split the game was slowly dying, it had been thriving in the 80s but TV coverage and sponsorship money was declining in the 90s. Now they have a stack of TV tournaments, and in 2019 the winner of the Worlds will pocket £500k. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on December 31, 2015, 11:46:23 AM Last minute I know:
I have 4 tickets for New years Day at the Darts Stand tickets in block 1 all together just to the right of the stage Looking for £200 for all 4. (Cost was £170) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on December 31, 2015, 11:56:31 AM For reference too last minute to sell then send but these are going for £200 a ticket on viagogo if anyone wants to buy then sell but you will have to deliver tickets in person to buyer. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on December 31, 2015, 12:01:36 PM AND SOLD!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Weetabix on January 03, 2016, 05:39:09 PM Once the final is over tonight you would think the attention will turn to the Premier League 2016. Gary is 9/2 with Vic 1/2odds 1,2. I would be surprised if this price is still available tomorrow.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 05:44:43 PM Once the final is over tonight you would think the attention will turn to the Premier League 2016. Gary is 9/2 with Vic 1/2odds 1,2. I would be surprised if this price is still available tomorrow. Looks a cracking ew bet at those ew terms. Very nice spot/thinking. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 03, 2016, 05:45:57 PM Ando is 7/2 to win, have the highest checkout and the most 180s with Sky. What do you reckon?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 05:51:25 PM Ando is 7/2 to win, have the highest checkout and the most 180s with Sky. What do you reckon? Is it worth doing the maths to get a fiver on? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 03, 2016, 05:58:31 PM Ando is 7/2 to win, have the highest checkout and the most 180s with Sky. What do you reckon? Is it worth doing the maths to get a fiver on? Thin ice cream brag. Sorry. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Newportlad on January 03, 2016, 06:05:16 PM Darts
Scuy are 5/6 that there wont wont be a 180 in the first leg. Surely this should be more like 1/2. They will both have max 9 darts each to achieve this. Seems like a good bet to me. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Weetabix on January 03, 2016, 06:09:06 PM Lewis doesn't seem to like this one match per week format and Power is on the decline. Vic go (NRNB) so does this mean the lineup is still to be confirmed?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 06:11:56 PM Lewis doesn't seem to like this one match per week format and Power is on the decline. Vic go (NRNB) so does this mean the lineup is still to be confirmed? Line up will be confirmed after tonight's final. Ando is 1.0000000000000000000001 to be in the premier league. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 03, 2016, 06:55:36 PM MVG
Anderson Taylor Lewis Wright Barney Chisnall Smith Thornton Klaasen That would be my lineup. Wade probably gets in there though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 07:07:47 PM Would be surprised if Wade misses out again after getting snubbed last time for his mental issues. Thornton might get the chop after his first round exit at the world's from your list for him. Klassen should get in for 3 dutch given there is a night in Holland this year i think.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on January 03, 2016, 07:09:14 PM Would be surprised if Wade misses out again after getting snubbed last time for his mental issues. Thornton might get the chop after his first round exit at the world's from your list for him. Klassen should get in for 3 dutch given there is a night in Holland this year i think. Yes. Gets in ahead of Thornton for me. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 03, 2016, 07:19:10 PM Would be surprised if Wade misses out again after getting snubbed last time for his mental issues. Thornton might get the chop after his first round exit at the world's from your list for him. Klassen should get in for 3 dutch given there is a night in Holland this year i think. Thornton has a TV win to his name and a top 8 ranking which should get him in. Also was unlucky to miss out last year. Klaasen probably doesn't deserve to be in but with the Dutch date, his performance at the worlds and his quick style which is ideal for the format he will probably be there. Chisnall deserves to be there due to his performance last year and again his style is made for the format. The rest are locks. I think Wade gets a spot fwiw but don't think he should. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: George2Loose on January 03, 2016, 07:40:16 PM Anderson 4/5 most 180's. I know they're both decent but this is a good bet no?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 07:48:16 PM Kim is a million to get back in surely? Should never have been in last year. Sure he only got in because they were introducing the new event, Belgium open, last year on the circuit.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on January 03, 2016, 07:51:26 PM Would be surprised if Wade misses out again after getting snubbed last time for his mental issues. Thornton might get the chop after his first round exit at the world's from your list for him. Klassen should get in for 3 dutch given there is a night in Holland this year i think. Thornton has a TV win to his name and a top 8 ranking which should get him in. Also was unlucky to miss out last year. Klaasen probably doesn't deserve to be in but with the Dutch date, his performance at the worlds and his quick style which is ideal for the format he will probably be there. Chisnall deserves to be there due to his performance last year and again his style is made for the format. The rest are locks. I think Wade gets a spot fwiw but don't think he should. Premier League darts came up down the pub and it took us a while to recall that Steven Bunting participated in 2015. There's also a few of the older generation who quite vocally declare Wade a nutjub at any given opportunity. With attitudes like that Wade could be overlooked for a while yet. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 03, 2016, 08:11:23 PM I love THE BULLET but he won't be in this year.
Wouldn't mind seeing Wade getting the boot. Think his quarter final performance may just be the nail in his premier league coffin. Very boring to watch. And these days he just seems resigned to the fact he can't beat the top players. Would like to see Smith and Klaasen come in for Kim and Wade. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Newportlad on January 03, 2016, 08:15:11 PM Anderson 4/5 most 180's. I know they're both decent but this is a good bet no? This is a good bet. Lewis drops down to 19's more often. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 08:21:55 PM I love THE BULLET but he won't be in this year. Wouldn't mind seeing Wade getting the boot. Think his quarter final performance may just be the nail in his premier league coffin. Very boring to watch. And these days he just seems resigned to the fact he can't beat the top players. Would like to see Smith and Klaasen come in for Kim and Wade. I think that demolition against Ando finished Wade's career for me at the top level. The body language at the hand shake at the end of the game when he got destroyed just said 'i tried Bristow to convince me i can still operate at the top level but it made no difference at all'. He is nowhere near the top players talent wise/scoring wise and has run like god to win 6 tv majors (last one was in 2010 fwiw when the game was a lot easier once Taylor was out than today). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on January 03, 2016, 08:36:07 PM klassens history not go against him?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2016, 08:37:01 PM klassens history not go against him? Not if it makes Bazza dough. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2016, 08:37:57 PM I love THE BULLET but he won't be in this year. Wouldn't mind seeing Wade getting the boot. Think his quarter final performance may just be the nail in his premier league coffin. Very boring to watch. And these days he just seems resigned to the fact he can't beat the top players. Would like to see Smith and Klaasen come in for Kim and Wade. I think that demolition against Ando finished Wade's career for me at the top level. The body language at the hand shake at the end of the game when he got destroyed just said 'i tried Bristow to convince me i can still operate at the top level but it made no difference at all'. He is nowhere near the top players talent wise/scoring wise and has run like god to win 6 tv majors (last one was in 2010 fwiw when the game was a lot easier once Taylor was out than today). Imagine he's got enough scratch to just plot up with his bird, and potter about. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 03, 2016, 08:40:34 PM Anderson 4/5 most 180's. I know they're both decent but this is a good bet no? This is a good bet. Lewis drops down to 19's more often. I had a little dabble on this and Ando seems to be dropping down to 19's much more than usual. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 08:43:08 PM I love THE BULLET but he won't be in this year. Wouldn't mind seeing Wade getting the boot. Think his quarter final performance may just be the nail in his premier league coffin. Very boring to watch. And these days he just seems resigned to the fact he can't beat the top players. Would like to see Smith and Klaasen come in for Kim and Wade. I think that demolition against Ando finished Wade's career for me at the top level. The body language at the hand shake at the end of the game when he got destroyed just said 'i tried Bristow to convince me i can still operate at the top level but it made no difference at all'. He is nowhere near the top players talent wise/scoring wise and has run like god to win 6 tv majors (last one was in 2010 fwiw when the game was a lot easier once Taylor was out than today). Imagine he's got enough scratch to just plot up with his bird, and potter about. He prefers fixing cars still to playing darts. Bristow said 'hardest part about managing wade is getting him out from under a car to actually practice'. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 03, 2016, 08:45:18 PM I love THE BULLET but he won't be in this year. Wouldn't mind seeing Wade getting the boot. Think his quarter final performance may just be the nail in his premier league coffin. Very boring to watch. And these days he just seems resigned to the fact he can't beat the top players. Would like to see Smith and Klaasen come in for Kim and Wade. I think that demolition against Ando finished Wade's career for me at the top level. The body language at the hand shake at the end of the game when he got destroyed just said 'i tried Bristow to convince me i can still operate at the top level but it made no difference at all'. He is nowhere near the top players talent wise/scoring wise and has run like god to win 6 tv majors (last one was in 2010 fwiw when the game was a lot easier once Taylor was out than today). Imagine he's got enough scratch to just plot up with his bird, and potter about. He prefers fixing cars still to playing darts. Bristow said 'hardest part about managing wade is getting him out from under a car to actually practice'. Wouldn't be able to get me out the bedroom if I was him Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 08:51:32 PM I love THE BULLET but he won't be in this year. Wouldn't mind seeing Wade getting the boot. Think his quarter final performance may just be the nail in his premier league coffin. Very boring to watch. And these days he just seems resigned to the fact he can't beat the top players. Would like to see Smith and Klaasen come in for Kim and Wade. I think that demolition against Ando finished Wade's career for me at the top level. The body language at the hand shake at the end of the game when he got destroyed just said 'i tried Bristow to convince me i can still operate at the top level but it made no difference at all'. He is nowhere near the top players talent wise/scoring wise and has run like god to win 6 tv majors (last one was in 2010 fwiw when the game was a lot easier once Taylor was out than today). Imagine he's got enough scratch to just plot up with his bird, and potter about. He prefers fixing cars still to playing darts. Bristow said 'hardest part about managing wade is getting him out from under a car to actually practice'. Wouldn't be able to get me out the bedroom if I was him Agreed. She must look incredible all dolled up in the bedroom. Incredible rack. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2016, 08:52:24 PM Haha, com.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 08:54:02 PM Just shows what an odd ball he is that he would prefer to fix cars for peanuts than play darts for fortunes. No wonder he has had mental issues. Couldn't imagine jackpot even fitting under a car never mind fixing it!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 03, 2016, 09:03:02 PM Just shows what an odd ball he is that he would prefer to fix cars for peanuts than play darts for fortunes. No wonder he has had mental issues. Couldn't imagine jackpot even fitting under a car never mind fixing it! Someone who has mental health issues an odd ball Welcome to 1980 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2016, 10:10:46 PM Wade and Thornton in the premier league. Betway go 4/1 anderson
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 10:14:18 PM Fair play to ando. Wasn't a classic but Lewis just had too many loose darts at key times. Pretty much went how everyone thought. Ando would win but not by as much as the hcap suggested. VWP all posters over the last 2 weeks. Been some great selections put up. tyvm.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 04, 2016, 09:05:05 AM I got it completely wrong everywhere!
What can i do between now and the 4th Feb :( I feel so alone. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on January 04, 2016, 10:30:21 AM (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CX013QYWAAA8Por.png)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on January 06, 2016, 02:28:39 PM This Durrant is quite good, well, hes been better than the rest I've watched.
His doubling this match is class. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 08, 2016, 02:53:20 PM Think Smith is going to love the Premier league, fast short formats and he doesn't care about who he plays really.
Looking forward to doing my bollocks every thursday :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Weetabix on January 20, 2016, 05:28:39 PM MVG 15/8 to take down the pdc masters which kicks off in 10 days, generous price? His draw looks a good one.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 21, 2016, 11:56:23 AM MVG 15/8 to take down the pdc masters which kicks off in 10 days, generous price? His draw looks a good one. Seems fair enough to me. Anderson was taking 3 weeks off after winning the worlds and will have been busy with engagements etc. Lewis struggles to get up for events like this at the best of times and bound to be a bit flat after the worlds and Taylor never shows his best form at this time of year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on February 04, 2016, 07:21:41 PM Premier league is back! Bring on the draws!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 04, 2016, 07:40:03 PM Wade 1/5 not to make top 4 looks good to me. As Arb has stated many times he doesn't have the scoring power to compete at the top level these days. He also struggled at the Masters despite making top 4. I also like the price on Chizzy to make the top 4.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TL900 on February 04, 2016, 10:48:57 PM Michael Smith getting found out!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 04, 2016, 10:52:34 PM That was woeful stuff tonight.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on February 04, 2016, 10:56:40 PM That was woeful stuff tonight. Hangover darts. Bookies loving their evening almost as much as the beer swillers. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 04, 2016, 11:03:51 PM Good night for me financially. Love the darts!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 04, 2016, 11:22:28 PM I did ok on the night. My long term stuff less didn't fare so well. Wade beating MVG wasn't ideal seeing as I'm on MVG to top the league and Wade to finish bottom 2 and not to make top 4.
Already looks like it's going to be a very long 16 weeks for Thornton and Bully Boy. Thornton winning the Grand Prix after showing little or no form for 18 months is one of life's mysteries. He is starting to look gone at the game now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 05, 2016, 08:50:05 AM ^^^ Agree with all above.
I managed to land a king of the oche coup, singles and double on Wright/Chizzy for wages. The 180s prices on Wright continue to baffle me, but are very generous. I'm interested in the 180s line for Wade next week, he's massively improved in this area. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on February 09, 2016, 04:41:33 PM Champions League of Darts: BBC to broadcast inaugural tournament
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35532372 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on February 09, 2016, 05:19:05 PM Champions League of Darts: BBC to broadcast inaugural tournament http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35532372 Sacrificing the BDO Worlds for it seems a strange decision. Will anyone else pick up the BDO comp? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on February 09, 2016, 05:37:10 PM Champions League of Darts: BBC to broadcast inaugural tournament http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35532372 Sacrificing the BDO Worlds for it seems a strange decision. Will anyone else pick up the BDO comp? It's already half-shown on some satellite channel (ESPN?) so presumably they could have it all if they wanted. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Skippy on February 09, 2016, 06:20:23 PM Champions League of Darts: BBC to broadcast inaugural tournament http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35532372 Sacrificing the BDO Worlds for it seems a strange decision. Will anyone else pick up the BDO comp? It's already half-shown on some satellite channel (ESPN?) so presumably they could have it all if they wanted. If we had a whip round we could probably have it on Blonde TV. It's a shame though that the BDO is presumably going to keel over now- I'm not sure I like the Hearns having a monopoly over anything, but they are good at what they do. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on February 09, 2016, 06:26:50 PM I cannot even watch the BDO when i have a bet on.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: NoCardDSC on February 09, 2016, 07:09:31 PM I really do think it's for the best that BDO does get removed. It really is awful stuff and quite painful to watch
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 09, 2016, 07:11:27 PM I really do think it's for the best that BDO does get removed. It really is awful stuff and quite painful to watch ^^^ This. I absolutely love darts, but can't bring myself to watch this garbage, never mind place a bet on it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: jakally on February 09, 2016, 07:31:51 PM When people comment that the BDO is terrible etc..., it kind of misses the point. It's like saying that Championship footie is really bad and shouldn't be on the TV.
The problem is that the BDO gets directly compared to the PDC. (Not only that, the later stages of the PDC is on TV directly before/at the same time, as the first round BDO). It's clear that the BDO have just about accepted their position as a Division 1 of darts / feeder to the PDC. It's no longer directly competing with the PDC, it's a different thing. I watched a bit of this years, and there were a few decent games, a handful of competitors with interesting stories, and having the ladies in there, who appear to be improving in standard, gives them a bit of something different. Definitely would benefit from a calendar adjustment though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on February 09, 2016, 07:33:29 PM exactly that
it exists as a reward for the amateur and county player whether it should be televised is another matter, but the BDO viewer appears to want to be something it cannot possibly be, which is a higher standard, given these guys are part-time Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: jakally on February 09, 2016, 07:38:56 PM exactly that it exists as a reward for the amateur and county player whether it should be televised is another matter, but the BDO viewer appears to want to be something it cannot possibly be, which is a higher standard, given these guys are part-time A rebrand / tweaking of the title may help. There is an unrealistic expectation based on history, and the arrogance of the BDO. Take that away and then it stands, or falls, based on its relevance as a product. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BorntoBubble on February 09, 2016, 07:40:07 PM exactly that it exists as a reward for the amateur and county player whether it should be televised is another matter, but the BDO viewer appears to want to be something it cannot possibly be, which is a higher standard, given these guys are part-time A rebrand / tweaking of the title may help. There is an unrealistic expectation based on history, and the arrogance of the BDO. Take that away and then it stands, or falls, based on its relevance as a product. PDC Div2 I agree. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 10, 2016, 12:23:08 AM GG BDO. They only really have themselves to blame. The board are clueless and have been for many years. The latest shambles with De:Luxe and the supposed new tournaments sums them up. With no terrestrial TV coverage (and possibly no coverage at all) it will die slowly.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 25, 2016, 09:47:58 PM It can't really get better than that can it? 123.4 ave. Missed a dart at D18 to win 7-0 with a 136 ave.the kid can play a bit.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: PokerBroker on February 26, 2016, 10:25:22 AM Did he hit the 9 darter? My stream went down and I wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 26, 2016, 11:05:52 AM Did he hit the 9 darter? My stream went down and I wasn't sure. No back to back 10 darters but no 9 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Longines on February 26, 2016, 12:06:35 PM Van Gerwen rattled in finishes of 11, 12, 11, 12, 10 and 10 darts in the first six legs as he wrapped up victory in just over 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: KitKeeper on February 26, 2016, 01:33:09 PM I really do think it's for the best that BDO does get removed. It really is awful stuff and quite painful to watch ^^^ This. I absolutely love darts, but can't bring myself to watch this garbage, never mind place a bet on it. It's hardly 'garbage'. It's still a good standard. Irks me when people put it down like this... There are some excellent players on that side. I suppose you want us stuck with Barry's massivs piss ups in Arenas where half the crowd aren't even watching the game, where players are getting booed mercilessly on doubles by drunk neanderthals who think it's funny. See King vs Van Gerwen in the GP final for the worst example. I love all darts, but the game on the PDC side really has been turned into something I don't like. I appreciate I'm in the minority, here. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: PokerBroker on February 26, 2016, 02:01:11 PM I really do think it's for the best that BDO does get removed. It really is awful stuff and quite painful to watch ^^^ This. I absolutely love darts, but can't bring myself to watch this garbage, never mind place a bet on it. It's hardly 'garbage'. It's still a good standard. Irks me when people put it down like this... There are some excellent players on that side. I suppose you want us stuck with Barry's massivs piss ups in Arenas where half the crowd aren't even watching the game, where players are getting booed mercilessly on doubles by drunk neanderthals who think it's funny. See King vs Van Gerwen in the GP final for the worst example. I love all darts, but the game on the PDC side really has been turned into something I don't like. I appreciate I'm in the minority, here. Good standard? You can't be serious. There are a few exceptions but the standard for professionals is pretty terrible, I've watched pub darts that are better in quality and excitement. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: KitKeeper on February 26, 2016, 02:50:55 PM I really do think it's for the best that BDO does get removed. It really is awful stuff and quite painful to watch ^^^ This. I absolutely love darts, but can't bring myself to watch this garbage, never mind place a bet on it. It's hardly 'garbage'. It's still a good standard. Irks me when people put it down like this... There are some excellent players on that side. I suppose you want us stuck with Barry's massivs piss ups in Arenas where half the crowd aren't even watching the game, where players are getting booed mercilessly on doubles by drunk neanderthals who think it's funny. See King vs Van Gerwen in the GP final for the worst example. I love all darts, but the game on the PDC side really has been turned into something I don't like. I appreciate I'm in the minority, here. Good standard? You can't be serious. There are a few exceptions but the standard for professionals is pretty terrible, I've watched pub darts that are better in quality and excitement. It's a good job that the vast majority of them aren't professionals, then. It IS a good standard. No, it's not 100+ averages every week, but if you don't even think mid 80s is a good standard, you haven't played much darts. It still serves a grand purpose. It's the grass roots of darts and is affordable for thousands of people to play, rather than getting people to pay hundreds of quid to enter Q School and hundreds more for a "tour card". Hearn really is a genius. Selling a dream to these poor people who dream of making it big as a "pro" darts player. I understand that the PDC is higher quality and a different product, but suggesting the BDO is removed is ridiculous. It has its place. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on February 26, 2016, 04:12:30 PM Agree with Kit, some good players in the BDO and it still provides an entertaining betting platform post PDC World Cships.
Crowds getting worse and worse in the PDC every week it seems, a couple of years ago they were entertaining and witty with their songs, now its just the same old dull moronic stuff like "boring, boring tables" and the shitty Toure song non-stop. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 26, 2016, 04:37:24 PM Agree with Kit, some good players in the BDO and it still provides an entertaining betting platform post PDC World Cships. Crowds getting worse and worse in the PDC every week it seems, a couple of years ago they were entertaining and witty with their songs, now its just the same old dull moronic stuff like "boring, boring tables" and the shitty Toure song non-stop. The talent pool is getting pretty shallow now though to be fair and with the latest fiasco over the proposed new tournaments not happening I can see a mass exodus next year. No TV coverage as it stands for Lakeside is also a major issue. Agree about the PDC crowds though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: PokerBroker on February 27, 2016, 09:40:17 AM Agree about the PDC crowds though. One of the reasons I wouldn't go. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on February 27, 2016, 10:45:23 AM Agree with Kit, some good players in the BDO and it still provides an entertaining betting platform post PDC World Cships. Crowds getting worse and worse in the PDC every week it seems, a couple of years ago they were entertaining and witty with their songs, now its just the same old dull moronic stuff like "boring, boring tables" and the shitty Toure song non-stop. This is the key. The BDO should always be on BEFORE the PDC, so the Terrestrial darts watchers got a "warm up" before the main event. You don't put the comedian on after the main event after people have started to leave. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: vegaslover on March 03, 2016, 10:16:37 PM Utterly ridiculous standard from MVG
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 05, 2016, 03:55:45 PM He won't win 16 world titles due to the depth nowadays but MVG is incredible.
170 checkout, 9 darter, 170 checkout in 3 consecutive legs. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on March 05, 2016, 04:00:11 PM 170 checkout, 9 darter, 170 checkout in 3 consecutive legs. WOW That is amazing. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2016, 04:00:33 PM Jeez, unreal.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: vegaslover on March 05, 2016, 11:03:58 PM He won't win 16 world titles due to the depth nowadays but MVG is incredible. 170 checkout, 9 darter, 170 checkout in 3 consecutive legs. Wasn't it a 177 the visit before the first 170 too? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 06, 2016, 12:15:31 AM He won't win 16 world titles due to the depth nowadays but MVG is incredible. 170 checkout, 9 darter, 170 checkout in 3 consecutive legs. Wasn't it a 177 the visit before the first 170 too? It was. He had a run of 18 perfect darts 177,170,180,180,141,177 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: vegaslover on March 06, 2016, 12:20:07 AM He won't win 16 world titles due to the depth nowadays but MVG is incredible. 170 checkout, 9 darter, 170 checkout in 3 consecutive legs. Wasn't it a 177 the visit before the first 170 too? It was. He had a run of 18 perfect darts 177,170,180,180,141,177 Unreal standard of darts, add that to his recent premier league averages and he is soooo far ahead of everyone else Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on May 19, 2016, 10:47:50 PM So, the Premier League is over for another year with an almost spectacularly underwhelming finals night. MVG pisses it in 3rd gear - no one else really turns up.
Never heard 20,000 people be so quiet all night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on May 19, 2016, 10:53:12 PM Thought there was something up with the sound transmission, pretty poor effort from the crowd or maybe the venue is just too big?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on May 19, 2016, 11:06:22 PM Venue size could be a thing - singing comes from the tables but the O2 is a big old barn where it could get lost.
I think it was more just that none of the games ever really got going. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on September 30, 2016, 09:57:41 AM More Stoke misery. Darts legend Phil “The Power” Taylor has been ordered to pay £830,000 to his ex-wife in their divorce deal. The 16-time world champion also has to hand over five houses and his pension to Yvonne, 54, after the pair split in 2014 after 23 years of marriage . The 56-year-old has to give up his marital home and lose a Tenerife pad as part of the settlement. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/darts-legend-phil-the-power-8945543 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 13, 2016, 02:54:49 AM https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/12/phil-taylor-darts-interview
We all know he is gone at the game but surely he can't possibly win another major with this mind set? Will he retire after the world's this year or just keep milking the game he has every right to for years after building it single handedly into the sport it is whilst sliding down the rankings? He could win more money for a 1/4 final exit in the worlds than he won winning most of his titles nowadays. After the divorce i could see why he keeps milking the cow for a few more years even if he knows he can't win any more. Being a top 6 player in 2017 is worth more financially than he made for most years in his career as the GOAT. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 13, 2016, 03:13:05 AM https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/12/phil-taylor-darts-interview We all know he is gone at the game but surely he can't possibly win another major with this mind set? Will he retire after the world's this year or just keep milking the game he has every right to for years after building it single handedly into the sport it is whilst sliding down the rankings? He could win more money for a 1/4 final exit in the worlds than he won winning most of his titles nowadays. After the divorce i could see why he keeps milking the cow for a few more years even if he knows he can't win any more. Being a top 6 player in 2017 is worth more financially than he made for most years in his career as the GOAT. After reading that I'd bet for voted to leave the EU Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on January 31, 2017, 12:18:50 AM Anyone like Taylor at 5/6 vs chisnall in premier league
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on February 22, 2017, 05:17:04 PM https://joshsdartistry.wordpress.com/2017/02/18/wright-whitewashes-van-gerwen-with-133-60-average-at-cheltenham-masters/
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 07, 2017, 09:40:55 PM Wright just smashed mvg 6-0
Don't think it'll be the last time we see wright beat him this year Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 07, 2017, 10:25:19 PM Wright just smashed mvg 6-0 Don't think it'll be the last time we see wright beat him this year By his own imperious standards MVG he hasn't actually been playing his A game for a while, got beat 6-1 by Ian white last euro tour, beaten by Taylor in the PL very comfortably, drew with Chizzy and Wright when both missed darts to beat him and he really snuck out of trouble, we're used to seeing 104 averages from him as total standard, competition is so tough nowadays if you turn up vs Garry Anderson, Peter Wright etc and average a flat 100 you'll probably get a proper beating, 5 years ago the thought of averaging just under 100 and getting slammed 6-0 was unhead off, but now you aren't a lock to win averaging 105. He's going through a wobbly patch for sure, last 6 weeks, still won 2 ranking events, cashed for 60 bags and thrown a 9 darter, so its not the worst bad path i've ever seen :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 07, 2017, 10:32:28 PM Ex, who you think early runners for PL next year???
You think Gurney or Price got a sniff if they can put a TV run together or do OK at the worlds? Possible return for the Wizard. Love speculating on this! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 07, 2017, 11:25:50 PM Maybe mensur will be invited again? He declined this year.
Price Keeps improving and being Welsh might help. Room for two if wade goes and as taylor done. Kim might not be back. Mensur price and cross! Need to bring cadby over Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on May 08, 2017, 06:44:42 PM Maybe mensur will be invited again? He declined this year. Price Keeps improving and being Welsh might help. Room for two if wade goes and as taylor done. Kim might not be back. Mensur price and cross! Need to bring cadby over Would love to see a proper wild card, like Cadby given a shot. Thornton is a cult hero in our fantasy darts league I play in. His mid-throw tilting is legendary piss-taking material. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2017, 07:06:07 PM Even though Taylor said he's off the tour next year, the Premier League isn't technically a tour event.
I wouldn't be surprised if he got a wild card to play. Problem is that the top 8 are so far clear of the rest. And the top 4 are so clear of players 5-8. Premier League is getting far too predictable. I wonder what price you would have got correctly stating the 4 to make the playoffs. Kim and Klaasen have got their arses handed to them on a plate, just like Smith, Bunting, Thornton and countless others have in the past. If Wadey carries on the way he's going, it's likely to drop from a top8 to a top 7... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2017, 07:19:23 PM Even though Taylor said he's off the tour next year, the Premier League isn't technically a tour event. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a wild card to play. Problem is that the top 8 are so far clear of the rest. And the top 4 are so clear of players 5-8. Premier League is getting far too predictable. I wonder what price you would have got correctly stating the 4 to make the playoffs. Kim and Klaasen have got their arses handed to them on a plate, just like Smith, Bunting, Thornton and countless others have in the past. If Wadey carries on the way he's going, it's likely to drop from a top8 to a top 7... Wade is like Everton in the EPL still miles clear of the rest but can't compete at all with the big boys. He is playing to his peak most of the time he just isn't talented enough to compete at the modern day top level now. He hasn't regressed for me the others have just got substantially better and/or are much more naturally talented. As long as he knows his level and can stay motivated to just be the 6th or 7th best player in the world at best he can still keep making £250k a year for the next ten years. As for whether he will retain his prem league place is unsure as it is an invitation event where only the top 4 in the world are gtd a place. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on May 08, 2017, 07:19:52 PM Think Gurney more likely than White/Price I think.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2017, 07:30:58 PM Even though Taylor said he's off the tour next year, the Premier League isn't technically a tour event. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a wild card to play. Problem is that the top 8 are so far clear of the rest. And the top 4 are so clear of players 5-8. Premier League is getting far too predictable. I wonder what price you would have got correctly stating the 4 to make the playoffs. Kim and Klaasen have got their arses handed to them on a plate, just like Smith, Bunting, Thornton and countless others have in the past. If Wadey carries on the way he's going, it's likely to drop from a top8 to a top 7... Wade is like Everton in the EPL still miles clear of the rest but can't compete at all with the big boys. He is playing to his peak most of the time he just isn't talented enough to compete at the modern day top level now. He hasn't regressed for me the others have just got substantially better and/or are much more naturally talented. As long as he knows his level and can stay motivated to just be the 6th or 7th best player in the world at best he can still keep making £250k a year for the next ten years. As for whether he will retain his prem league place is unsure as it is an invitation event where only the top 4 in the world are gtd a place. The fact its an invitation event is what makes me think Taylor plays again next year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2017, 07:33:30 PM Even though Taylor said he's off the tour next year, the Premier League isn't technically a tour event. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a wild card to play. Problem is that the top 8 are so far clear of the rest. And the top 4 are so clear of players 5-8. Premier League is getting far too predictable. I wonder what price you would have got correctly stating the 4 to make the playoffs. Kim and Klaasen have got their arses handed to them on a plate, just like Smith, Bunting, Thornton and countless others have in the past. If Wadey carries on the way he's going, it's likely to drop from a top8 to a top 7... Wade is like Everton in the EPL still miles clear of the rest but can't compete at all with the big boys. He is playing to his peak most of the time he just isn't talented enough to compete at the modern day top level now. He hasn't regressed for me the others have just got substantially better and/or are much more naturally talented. As long as he knows his level and can stay motivated to just be the 6th or 7th best player in the world at best he can still keep making £250k a year for the next ten years. As for whether he will retain his prem league place is unsure as it is an invitation event where only the top 4 in the world are gtd a place. The fact its an invitation event is what makes me think Taylor plays again next year. He definitely could. He still draws the crowds and sells tickets. Not sure he would fancy travelling around UK and Europe on 15 Thurs nights in a row however for little prize money relative to his glory days. If he wins this year as a 12/1 shot surely Hearn will demand he defends it? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2017, 07:55:32 PM Even though Taylor said he's off the tour next year, the Premier League isn't technically a tour event. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a wild card to play. Problem is that the top 8 are so far clear of the rest. And the top 4 are so clear of players 5-8. Premier League is getting far too predictable. I wonder what price you would have got correctly stating the 4 to make the playoffs. Kim and Klaasen have got their arses handed to them on a plate, just like Smith, Bunting, Thornton and countless others have in the past. If Wadey carries on the way he's going, it's likely to drop from a top8 to a top 7... Wade is like Everton in the EPL still miles clear of the rest but can't compete at all with the big boys. He is playing to his peak most of the time he just isn't talented enough to compete at the modern day top level now. He hasn't regressed for me the others have just got substantially better and/or are much more naturally talented. As long as he knows his level and can stay motivated to just be the 6th or 7th best player in the world at best he can still keep making £250k a year for the next ten years. As for whether he will retain his prem league place is unsure as it is an invitation event where only the top 4 in the world are gtd a place. The fact its an invitation event is what makes me think Taylor plays again next year. He definitely could. He still draws the crowds and sells tickets. Not sure he would fancy travelling around UK and Europe on 15 Thurs nights in a row however for little prize money relative to his glory days. If he wins this year as a 12/1 shot surely Hearn will demand he defends it? No other commitments for the year, just the Premier League. He'll be a commentator and do the travelling anyway if he isn't playing, so he might as well play. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2017, 08:07:55 PM Even though Taylor said he's off the tour next year, the Premier League isn't technically a tour event. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a wild card to play. Problem is that the top 8 are so far clear of the rest. And the top 4 are so clear of players 5-8. Premier League is getting far too predictable. I wonder what price you would have got correctly stating the 4 to make the playoffs. Kim and Klaasen have got their arses handed to them on a plate, just like Smith, Bunting, Thornton and countless others have in the past. If Wadey carries on the way he's going, it's likely to drop from a top8 to a top 7... Wade is like Everton in the EPL still miles clear of the rest but can't compete at all with the big boys. He is playing to his peak most of the time he just isn't talented enough to compete at the modern day top level now. He hasn't regressed for me the others have just got substantially better and/or are much more naturally talented. As long as he knows his level and can stay motivated to just be the 6th or 7th best player in the world at best he can still keep making £250k a year for the next ten years. As for whether he will retain his prem league place is unsure as it is an invitation event where only the top 4 in the world are gtd a place. The fact its an invitation event is what makes me think Taylor plays again next year. He definitely could. He still draws the crowds and sells tickets. Not sure he would fancy travelling around UK and Europe on 15 Thurs nights in a row however for little prize money relative to his glory days. If he wins this year as a 12/1 shot surely Hearn will demand he defends it? No other commitments for the year, just the Premier League. He'll be a commentator and do the travelling anyway if he isn't playing, so he might as well play. I really hope he never commentates. Jesus listening to that Stokie accent constantly would drive me nuts with his constant snidey comments about the players. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on May 08, 2017, 08:23:21 PM There has to be an argument to freshen up the PL format. The increase to 10 runners hasn't worked as no matter who gets the wild cards they tend to be fodder.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2017, 08:31:48 PM There has to be an argument to freshen up the PL format. The increase to 10 runners hasn't worked as no matter who gets the wild cards they tend to be fodder. What would you do? Go back to the original format of 8 players? No relegation (its irrelevant anyway) and games first to 8 instead of 7? Draws less likely then but still remain the same price! If you didn't do that what would you suggest? It has to fit a 3 hour show not sure what else they can do with it? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2017, 08:36:18 PM Even though Taylor said he's off the tour next year, the Premier League isn't technically a tour event. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a wild card to play. Problem is that the top 8 are so far clear of the rest. And the top 4 are so clear of players 5-8. Premier League is getting far too predictable. I wonder what price you would have got correctly stating the 4 to make the playoffs. Kim and Klaasen have got their arses handed to them on a plate, just like Smith, Bunting, Thornton and countless others have in the past. If Wadey carries on the way he's going, it's likely to drop from a top8 to a top 7... Wade is like Everton in the EPL still miles clear of the rest but can't compete at all with the big boys. He is playing to his peak most of the time he just isn't talented enough to compete at the modern day top level now. He hasn't regressed for me the others have just got substantially better and/or are much more naturally talented. As long as he knows his level and can stay motivated to just be the 6th or 7th best player in the world at best he can still keep making £250k a year for the next ten years. As for whether he will retain his prem league place is unsure as it is an invitation event where only the top 4 in the world are gtd a place. The fact its an invitation event is what makes me think Taylor plays again next year. He definitely could. He still draws the crowds and sells tickets. Not sure he would fancy travelling around UK and Europe on 15 Thurs nights in a row however for little prize money relative to his glory days. If he wins this year as a 12/1 shot surely Hearn will demand he defends it? No other commitments for the year, just the Premier League. He'll be a commentator and do the travelling anyway if he isn't playing, so he might as well play. I really hope he never commentates. Jesus listening to that Stokie accent constantly would drive me nuts with his constant snidey comments about the players. Of course he'll commentate! He owns 33% of the PDC, if he wants to commentate, he will. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 08, 2017, 08:40:22 PM There has to be an argument to freshen up the PL format. The increase to 10 runners hasn't worked as no matter who gets the wild cards they tend to be fodder. What would you do? Go back to the original format of 8 players? No relegation (its irrelevant anyway) and games first to 8 instead of 7? Draws less likely then but still remain the same price! If you didn't do that what would you suggest? It has to fit a 3 hour show not sure what else they can do with it? I doubt many people love the darts as much as me, but I must admit I'm getting bored of the Premier League. We know who are going to make the playoffs and who'll get relegated before the tournament begins. Just drags on too bloody long. Everyone plays everyone once instead of twice would be my suggestion. Would increase variance and maybe let someone else get in the top 4. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2017, 08:51:50 PM There has to be an argument to freshen up the PL format. The increase to 10 runners hasn't worked as no matter who gets the wild cards they tend to be fodder. What would you do? Go back to the original format of 8 players? No relegation (its irrelevant anyway) and games first to 8 instead of 7? Draws less likely then but still remain the same price! If you didn't do that what would you suggest? It has to fit a 3 hour show not sure what else they can do with it? I doubt many people love the darts as much as me, but I must admit I'm getting bored of the Premier League. We know who are going to make the playoffs and who'll get relegated before the tournament begins. Just drags on too bloody long. Everyone plays everyone once instead of twice would be my suggestion. Would increase variance and maybe let someone else get in the top 4. The thing i would change is making jackpot take it seriously. The top 8 in the world as it stands can all beat each other up on any given night. Lewis never has turned up every week for an entire season. Maybe if the format was shorter this might happen. Can't see them reducing the length of it though. Sky need the Thurs night slot to compete with BT sport and the Euro league. The top 8 have such an advantage both in talent and the fact they are so used to the constant travelling every Thurs night to the venues. Anyone new coming in it pretty much always going to get torched because they are not as talented and a total rookie to the travelling week in week out. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on May 08, 2017, 11:31:09 PM I've been bored of the prem league for a good few years now. Goes on far too long.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 09, 2017, 08:24:48 AM MVG vs Garry Anderson, #1 vs #2 in the world and a certain bookmaker will lay you 16/5 on Garry winning, thats too big but I wouldn't wanna bet at 2/1 and that in itself is pretty ridiculous.
I think Garry is actually a decent way ahead of Wright too, and I am 100% sure that Wright is a LONG way ahead of Adrian Lewis, all the natural talent, flair and utter brilliance of Lewis but for the last 3 years Garry and MVG bring it every time, Wright kind of the same but only this year he's really consistently been at their level, Lewis average since 2016 is just under 98, which is a full 4 and 5 points behind the top two, with a pretty workmanlike chekcout number, just doesn't cut it to be mentioned in the same sentence. As for 5th and 6th, Chizzy is brilliant but far too inconsistent and cant seem to close out, which leads me to think he'll struggle to ever actually win a major which if you wanna challenge the top 3 you're gonna have to do with how good they are and how the rankings work...I can defo see chizzy getting to #4 in the world but I think that's it for chizzy. Now James Wade, not only can he not compete with top 4 above him, he really can't compete with the guys below either, his doubling is what everyone goes on about "yeah he doesn't score but he's a laser on the finishes"...since 2016 his checkout % has been 40% which is very good but not world class by ay means and when you score as poorly as he does in todays game you're gonna get filled in constantly. He's only £50k ahead of 10th place (with PT and Barney who dont play much) but some real grinders like Jelle and Mensur below him, seriously it's looking very bad for wadey, on a 1 year form book he should struggle to beat a lot of the top 16. See it in his eyes too, lost the drive, honestly, he's done. Can see him out of the top 10 after the worlds and out of the top 16 the following year. I think they should have 2 matches each per night, best of 8 legs. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on May 09, 2017, 12:36:00 PM There has to be an argument to freshen up the PL format. The increase to 10 runners hasn't worked as no matter who gets the wild cards they tend to be fodder. What would you do? Go back to the original format of 8 players? No relegation (its irrelevant anyway) and games first to 8 instead of 7? Draws less likely then but still remain the same price! If you didn't do that what would you suggest? It has to fit a 3 hour show not sure what else they can do with it? I don't know to be honest but my interest really has waned in the last couple of years due to the predictability of it. Despite there being more depth in the game than there has ever been there is still a big gulf from those at the top to those in 10th. The other problem is when a player has a breakthrough year they get a CL spot then get beaten up every week which wrecks their confidence and sets them back. Bunting, Smith etc are shadows of the players they were beforehand. Price and Gurney are probably the next two in the running to get a shot but the same will happen to them as they just aren't yet at the level to compete consistently with the big boys. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 09, 2017, 12:44:27 PM There has to be an argument to freshen up the PL format. The increase to 10 runners hasn't worked as no matter who gets the wild cards they tend to be fodder. What would you do? Go back to the original format of 8 players? No relegation (its irrelevant anyway) and games first to 8 instead of 7? Draws less likely then but still remain the same price! If you didn't do that what would you suggest? It has to fit a 3 hour show not sure what else they can do with it? I don't know to be honest but my interest really has waned in the last couple of years due to the predictability of it. Despite there being more depth in the game than there has ever been there is still a big gulf from those at the top to those in 10th. The other problem is when a player has a breakthrough year they get a CL spot then get beaten up every week which wrecks their confidence and sets them back. Bunting, Smith etc are shadows of the players they were beforehand. Price and Gurney are probably the next two in the running to get a shot but the same will happen to them as they just aren't yet at the level to compete consistently with the big boys. Agreed Wes Newton was literally put in a confidence coffin after his PL experience. I don't routinely watch it every Thurs like i used to do but then i didn't watch deal or no deal in its 10 year like i did in the first few years. I think it is just boredom with the whole event tbh nothing to do with the gulf in class with the players. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on May 09, 2017, 12:46:42 PM There has to be an argument to freshen up the PL format. The increase to 10 runners hasn't worked as no matter who gets the wild cards they tend to be fodder. What would you do? Go back to the original format of 8 players? No relegation (its irrelevant anyway) and games first to 8 instead of 7? Draws less likely then but still remain the same price! If you didn't do that what would you suggest? It has to fit a 3 hour show not sure what else they can do with it? I don't know to be honest but my interest really has waned in the last couple of years due to the predictability of it. Despite there being more depth in the game than there has ever been there is still a big gulf from those at the top to those in 10th. The other problem is when a player has a breakthrough year they get a CL spot then get beaten up every week which wrecks their confidence and sets them back. Bunting, Smith etc are shadows of the players they were beforehand. Price and Gurney are probably the next two in the running to get a shot but the same will happen to them as they just aren't yet at the level to compete consistently with the big boys. Agreed Wes Newton was literally put in a confidence coffin after his PL experience. I don't routinely watch it every Thurs like i used to do but then i didn't watch deal or no deal in its 10 year like i did in the first few years. I think it is just boredom with the whole event tbh nothing to do with the gulf in class with the players. Yeah there's definitely an element of that as I'm sure it was predictable in its early days with Taylor winning on the bridle. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 09, 2017, 12:55:40 PM I actually think the league is way more competitive now (if you just take the top 8) than in Taylor's era. The top 2 players have only won 60% of their 15 games this season and the bottom two players have only lost 8 out of 15 of their games. This is as competitive as it has ever been for me. I just think it is fatigue of the same event week after week for 4 months on a Thurs night at the same venues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Premier_League_Darts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Premier_League_Darts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Premier_League_Darts Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on May 09, 2017, 02:38:16 PM Pretty nuts that the PL is played at the O2 now when it was playing leisure centres in 2005
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 09, 2017, 07:23:36 PM I don't routinely watch it every Thurs like i used to do but then i didn't watch deal or no deal in its 10 year like i did in the first few years. I think it is just boredom with the whole event tbh nothing to do with the gulf in class with the players. Point 1) Deal or No Deal, GET A JOB MATE! Point 2) Bet bigger :P Anything else I can help with :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 11, 2017, 05:39:31 PM Lewis vs Taylor...
What you think? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 11, 2017, 06:23:52 PM Depends what lewis shows up innit
Go chisnalllllll Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 11, 2017, 06:50:46 PM He sometimes plays amazing games vs PT, sometimes he looks very timid... I kinda wanna back him as the straight and narrow he;s too big but he doesn't really give a fuck about the PL at the best of times. got huge tilt all over it.
You big on the chizzy train too? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 11, 2017, 07:05:30 PM Oh yes
Let's gooooo Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 11, 2017, 07:35:10 PM brains
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 11, 2017, 07:39:43 PM lol
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on May 11, 2017, 07:43:40 PM Looked highly suspicious that. Averaging <80 and goes 6-2 down then finishes up just under 100 average and rattles off 4 straight legs with big finishes.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 11, 2017, 08:01:04 PM Looked highly suspicious that. Averaging <80 and goes 6-2 down then finishes up just under 100 average and rattles off 4 straight legs with big finishes. He's hit less than 2 180s a game since Jan 2015 and rattles off 4 in 8 visits! Chizzy lost his head in legs 2 and 3 and that cost the wheelbarrow. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on May 11, 2017, 08:05:07 PM Left that one out of my draws trixie too :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 11, 2017, 08:14:41 PM coulda had the draws lucky16 !!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on May 11, 2017, 08:24:07 PM coulda had the draws lucky16 !! I may be a bit of a darts ice-cream but not the full knickerbocker glory! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Doobs on May 11, 2017, 08:27:48 PM Left that one out of my draws trixie too :( Tried to do all 4 on a lucky 15 on shy. Limited me to 38p. Am such a persona non grata they won't even let me do an acca. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 11, 2017, 09:42:46 PM not a good evening betting on the chubby blokes throwing arrows for me.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on May 11, 2017, 10:14:55 PM not a good evening betting on the chubby blokes throwing arrows for me. Send more money - my wheelbarrow is in trouble. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on May 11, 2017, 11:55:31 PM Looked highly suspicious that. Averaging <80 and goes 6-2 down then finishes up just under 100 average and rattles off 4 straight legs with big finishes. I am usually the first one to cry fix, but it never even corossed my mind that this was dodgy. Chizzy just looked incredibly nervous/twitchy and Wade played the best 4 legs he's played all year. Probably averaged 120 over that time. No way was that crooked. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 12, 2017, 02:49:54 AM Wright is 9/2 for the premier league
He's 1/2 to beat taylor before playing either mvg or Anderson in the final Wright was 2/1 to beat and did beat mvg in the European whatever last week This of course is a longer format but wright 9/2 looks big to me Thoughts Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on May 12, 2017, 08:05:12 AM If anything was crooked it was the Taylor v Jackpot game. Jackpot looked suspiciously like a non trier to me from 5-3 up.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on May 14, 2017, 01:40:41 PM Rob Cross doing what Rob Cross does again this weekend. Gubbed Chisnall 6-2 taking out 153 to win it.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 14, 2017, 05:58:42 PM Rob Cross doing what Rob Cross does again this weekend. Gubbed Chisnall 6-2 taking out 153 to win it. yeh, he's setting off even money vs Smith some places and I think he should probably be the favourite, if you cant bet at even money then i think I'dgo for the -1.5 on 365 but it should be a really good match. To add some balance though, he has looked massively ropey at some points during this tournament, but his mental tenacity for someone with basically no inexperience is absolutely phenomenal, just digs in, doesnt tilt off and finds it from somewhere. Perhaps he's just new, on a big heater and finding it all too easy right now and will tail off when he starts to face serious expectation, or perhaps he really is this good...time will tell i guess. Looking forward to seeing him in the Matchplay he looks decent favourite to qualify, looked very comfortable on the stage at the UK Open. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 14, 2017, 06:40:31 PM Reminds me of Eso Kral Rob Cross does if anyone else can see it?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on May 14, 2017, 06:46:14 PM Reminds me of Eso Kral Rob Cross does if anyone else can see it? You what? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 14, 2017, 07:16:24 PM yeh you're right, I'm way off :P
They talk the same too! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 14, 2017, 08:40:49 PM you wont get many better games than that! absolute banzai of a game
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 18, 2017, 06:09:50 PM Final night!
MVG and Anderson to average over 100 in their match - evens! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on May 18, 2017, 07:55:11 PM Final night! MVG and Anderson to average over 100 in their match - evens! Tight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: rinswun on May 18, 2017, 08:44:52 PM Massive bottle job from Wright this. Tough to watch.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 18, 2017, 09:06:15 PM Wright is 9/2 for the premier league He's 1/2 to beat taylor before playing either mvg or Anderson in the final Wright was 2/1 to beat and did beat mvg in the European whatever last week This of course is a longer format but wright 9/2 looks big to me Thoughts Please play better in the final lol 9/2 to beat mvg now lolol Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 18, 2017, 10:04:16 PM sigh
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 18, 2017, 10:13:51 PM looooooooooooooooooooooool
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 18, 2017, 10:23:39 PM world cup of darts soon
anyone know the format? scotland are 2/1 with who i assume will be wright and anderson? dutch are faves with mvg and barney? barney will let that side down i reckon Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 19, 2017, 12:39:46 PM Always awesome the WC.
The doubles format makes for some very interesting moments, the Deven Peterson miscount (been tons of replays lately) and the Nicholson blow up were brilliant :) England 5/1 with Lewis and Chizzy? The play singles and doubles point for each win Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on May 19, 2017, 05:43:36 PM Always awesome the WC. The doubles format makes for some very interesting moments, the Deven Peterson miscount (been tons of replays lately) and the Nicholson blow up were brilliant :) England 5/1 with Lewis and Chizzy? The play singles and doubles point for each win Fancy Scotland myself. Lewis is such a liability my wheelbarrow is scared of him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 19, 2017, 05:50:29 PM Is each way betting good?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 19, 2017, 06:41:59 PM Is each way betting good? Depends on the situation I guess. Dubai Masters is pretty interesting thats next week :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 19, 2017, 06:48:00 PM Always awesome the WC. The doubles format makes for some very interesting moments, the Deven Peterson miscount (been tons of replays lately) and the Nicholson blow up were brilliant :) England 5/1 with Lewis and Chizzy? The play singles and doubles point for each win Fancy Scotland myself. Lewis is such a liability my wheelbarrow is scared of him. Yeh Lewis is amazing darts player but not inline with full wheelbarrows, had a few wheelbarrow empties on his account this year! I guess with #2 and #3 in the world youd have to fancy them, but that MVG factor though!! If Chizzy and Lewis both turn up they will smash that 5-1 into the ground. Very hard to see a winner coming from anywhere else, or even anyone worth a sneaky bet. Northern Ireland with Brendan Dolan and Daryl Gurney at 40s or Australia with Whitlock and Kyle Anderson at 25s maybe?????? Don't really see it. England & Scotland both come in and Netherlands gone odds against now...people must be reading !!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 19, 2017, 07:10:09 PM Is each way betting good? Depends on the situation I guess. Dubai Masters is pretty interesting thats next week :) The World Cup obv lol, 1/2 odds 2/1 two places Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on May 19, 2017, 07:50:07 PM Always awesome the WC. The doubles format makes for some very interesting moments, the Deven Peterson miscount (been tons of replays lately) and the Nicholson blow up were brilliant :) England 5/1 with Lewis and Chizzy? The play singles and doubles point for each win Fancy Scotland myself. Lewis is such a liability my wheelbarrow is scared of him. Is Wright definitely playing? He didn't last year as him and Anderson don't get on. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 19, 2017, 08:13:03 PM Always awesome the WC. The doubles format makes for some very interesting moments, the Deven Peterson miscount (been tons of replays lately) and the Nicholson blow up were brilliant :) England 5/1 with Lewis and Chizzy? The play singles and doubles point for each win Fancy Scotland myself. Lewis is such a liability my wheelbarrow is scared of him. Is Wright definitely playing? He didn't last year as him and Anderson don't get on. About 6 weeks ago when they faced off in the PL Wayne Mardle said they were going too, i was assuming he's likely in the know...if there is any doubt then i think that prolly makes them a massive lay at 15/8 even, made a PDC final the other week but aside from that Thornton's been miles off his best. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on May 19, 2017, 10:12:21 PM Always awesome the WC. The doubles format makes for some very interesting moments, the Deven Peterson miscount (been tons of replays lately) and the Nicholson blow up were brilliant :) England 5/1 with Lewis and Chizzy? The play singles and doubles point for each win Fancy Scotland myself. Lewis is such a liability my wheelbarrow is scared of him. Is Wright definitely playing? He didn't last year as him and Anderson don't get on. About 6 weeks ago when they faced off in the PL Wayne Mardle said they were going too, i was assuming he's likely in the know...if there is any doubt then i think that prolly makes them a massive lay at 15/8 even, made a PDC final the other week but aside from that Thornton's been miles off his best. Yeah Thornton a huge downgrade. Even if Wright does play animosity between them can't help their cause any. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 20, 2017, 09:50:39 AM Only one of the matches is doubles though, against anyone but england or netherlands they'd be odds on have it won before the 5th point. They must respect each other as darts players even if they don't get along, so I'd say their personal issues probably no more of a disadvantage than Lewis' earth shattering inconsistency. Looks more and more like Netherlands might be the bet at 6/5
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 25, 2017, 11:54:05 AM World Cup teams are confirmed.
Chizzy & Lewis as expected, would have been shambles if wade got ahead. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on May 25, 2017, 12:11:20 PM Should be Cross and Chizzee.
Lewis and Wade are jokes. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 25, 2017, 01:16:14 PM World Cup teams are confirmed. Chizzy & Lewis as expected, would have been shambles if wade got ahead. Pretty sure the WC teams are simply done on the highest 2 players for each country in the PDC order of merit. I don't think there is any selection process involved tbh. Maybe not actually as Klassen is ranked above Barney. I assume Barney is playing. http://www.pdc.tv/pdc-order-of-merit Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 25, 2017, 01:33:27 PM World Cup teams are confirmed. Chizzy & Lewis as expected, would have been shambles if wade got ahead. Pretty sure the WC teams are simply done on the highest 2 players for each country in the PDC order of merit. I don't think there is any selection process involved tbh. Maybe not actually as Klassen is ranked above Barney. I assume Barney is playing. http://www.pdc.tv/pdc-order-of-merit It's the top guy + 1 pick. Usually it's always the top 2 because...why wouldn't it be :P Would have been mental tilting if wade got in over chizzy. Ando & Wright playing together, we'll see how friendly they are against each other today in dubai. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on May 25, 2017, 02:15:25 PM World Cup teams are confirmed. Chizzy & Lewis as expected, would have been shambles if wade got ahead. Pretty sure the WC teams are simply done on the highest 2 players for each country in the PDC order of merit. I don't think there is any selection process involved tbh. Maybe not actually as Klassen is ranked above Barney. I assume Barney is playing. http://www.pdc.tv/pdc-order-of-merit Yeah it is done on the OOM. Klaasen will never be in the Dutch team as long as MVG is in it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 25, 2017, 07:48:02 PM they looked like they were having a bit of a laugh together on stage before the game today and seemed cordial enough post-match?
I don't think it'll affect them too badly Scotland. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 25, 2017, 08:07:36 PM if you didnt see the Dubai final defo worth a youtube, what a game
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on May 25, 2017, 09:08:06 PM they looked like they were having a bit of a laugh together on stage before the game today and seemed cordial enough post-match? I don't think it'll affect them too badly Scotland. https://mobile.twitter.com/marklightbody1/status/867823821264310272 Haven't watched yet Don't know how true that is Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 26, 2017, 12:41:51 PM they looked like they were having a bit of a laugh together on stage before the game today and seemed cordial enough post-match? I don't think it'll affect them too badly Scotland. https://mobile.twitter.com/marklightbody1/status/867823821264310272 Haven't watched yet Don't know how true that is I saw the interview, absolutely massive over-reaction right there! Not saying that GA isn't dismissive about PW's ability, just really don't think he was doing it there! It was an interview about him after all!!! He's a sicko PW for sure but he's not in GA or MVG league yet. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: exstream on June 01, 2017, 10:35:01 PM LOL Scotland
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on June 02, 2017, 08:09:41 AM I guess that's what happens when two guys that don't like each other have to play together. They looked pretty much like non triers
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on June 02, 2017, 08:38:28 AM I guess that's what happens when two guys that don't like each other have to play together. They looked pretty much like non triers Yeah, weren't interested, nice one Singapore. Opens that half of the draw right up. Australia Belgium (maybe Wales but wasn't that convinced last night) If you can get on at Sky for 5/1 England looks good now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on June 03, 2017, 12:38:24 PM Singapore to beat Spain................. thoughts?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on June 03, 2017, 04:42:00 PM Singapore to beat Spain................. thoughts? Wheelbarrow job. Hope a few got on. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on June 03, 2017, 09:59:55 PM These first to 4 games make things pretty open. Late night punting mood again so gonna have a few pennies on the yank @ 9's vs RVB, mainly because it'd be fun to see it go to a doubles game to settle the match :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on June 03, 2017, 10:20:19 PM These first to 4 games make things pretty open. Late night punting mood again so gonna have a few pennies on the yank @ 9's vs RVB, mainly because it'd be fun to see it go to a doubles game to settle the match :) Wiiiii Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on June 04, 2017, 03:54:25 PM Lewis throwing left handed all weekend until the doubles match or something???
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on June 24, 2017, 08:48:39 PM Think our fun with Rob Cross is coming to an end. He starts favourite vs Klaasen tonight in the tour event.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on June 24, 2017, 11:25:00 PM Think our fun with Rob Cross is coming to an end. He starts favourite vs Klaasen tonight in the tour event. Yeah.... Certainly wasn't fun :-( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on June 25, 2017, 12:28:34 AM Think our fun with Rob Cross is coming to an end. He starts favourite vs Klaasen tonight in the tour event. Yeah.... Certainly wasn't fun :-( Maybe his run of form has come to an end as well. Glad I swerved this one. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on June 25, 2017, 09:10:00 AM Think our fun with Rob Cross is coming to an end. He starts favourite vs Klaasen tonight in the tour event. Yeah.... Certainly wasn't fun :-( Maybe his run of form has come to an end as well. Glad I swerved this one. Apparently, he has picked up a virus. We don't know exactly where his level is, and we won't for ages - however we'll be winning and losing some money on the way to finding out :P Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 02, 2017, 03:49:45 PM Rob Cross!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 02, 2017, 04:37:28 PM go on Robbbbb
8 in a row missed by MVG, I don#t think that's ever happened before! Went +3.5, should have gone -3.5 :P Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 02, 2017, 04:37:53 PM Bazza what you think Rob Cross has to do to get into the PL?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 02, 2017, 04:45:35 PM A couple of deep runs on TV could be good enough, particularly if he takes some big scalps. Assuming they freshen it up with one or two new faces then Price and Gurney are probably at the front of that queue at the minute but I fancy Cross has a bit more about him.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 02, 2017, 06:45:30 PM yeh, I think Gurney is the better player at the moment but Price's UK Open final giving him the nod. Lots of chances to impress though!
Price is in Shanghai and Dubai masters and Gurney at vegas. Micheal Smith is on a serious resurgence at the moment and think he's gonna have a great shot at a PL return if he keeps things up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 07, 2017, 12:01:00 PM anyone see that coming?
Was on the Garry -2.5 so he finished in minus legs for me! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 20, 2017, 03:23:38 PM Matchplaaayyyyyyyy Darts, starts saturday :)
MVG vs Bunting Whitlock vs K. Anderson Taylor vs Price RVB vs Cullen Lewis vs Beaton Cross vs White Chizzy vs King Huybrechts vs Cullen G.Anderson vs Kist Gurney vs Benito van de Pas Henderson vs Suljovic Klaasen vs Pipe Wright vs Wilson Thornton vs Reyes Wade vs Webster Smith vs West Interesting draw, nothing really jumps out from the outright market: https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/world-matchplay/world-matchplay-2017/winner The path looks pretty set out for MVG again, Barney and Phil have to play each other (or lose) before he meets them, Q2 where his semi final comes from is wide open, you never know what you'll get from Lewis, Rob Cross is the man of the moment but totally unproved in long format games, chizzy has the easiest 2nd round game against one of two guys in very iffy form. You can't really say that Bunting > Whitlock/Anderson > Barney/Phil > Chizzy is a really easy path to the final for anyone but you can see him hosing it up pretty easily. Garry's path doesn't like that bad either really, pretty straight forward opening game vs Kist, tricky 2nd round game vs Gurney or BvdP, gurney having a great year and kind of battered him in Vegas winning 7 straight from 4-1 and BvdP is also dangerous and having a decent yr, albeit a little inconsistent. Would fancy gurney for this one as things currently are. The other half of the quarter Suljovic/Henderson, Pipe/Klaasen, Mensur the stand out guy there but dont rule big hendo out of pulling off a little upset and if he does pipe vs klaasen isn't going to scare anyone as Pipe's form has been poor and major doubts over Klaasens wrist for the longer format games. I think the most interesting 1/4 of the draw is the bottom, it doesn't look too tough for Peter Wright but James Wilson has put in some good performances on the euro/pro tour lately and Wright's form has really not been that great despite winning that euro tour he really wasn't that great that weekend, looks a bit out of focus and a little frustrated recently. Cristo Reyes then Micheal Smith in particular, could prove to be a tricky run in for PW. I think if I was gonna go for an outright bet I'd look to someone from Q4 and I think Micheal Smith 50/1 is the standout guy, 60-1 would be amazing but at 50s I think you could do worse. The 1/2 12 EW terms look good. Anyone got any thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 20, 2017, 03:36:39 PM What a loaded draw given Taylor is slumping through the rankings and falls at 8 for this and Barney who never seems that bothered about his ranking falls at 9! Even the non seeds are brutal. Price is probably the best non seed in the field. Anderson and Bunting are clearly no mugs either! Cullen must be wondering how unlucky you can be to fall into that quarter! Got to beat Barney, Taylor and MVG (the three greatest players of all time) just to make the semis!
Second quater is interesting because Jackpot always 'sweats up' at the venue and struggles with the extreme heat at times. Wide open for me. Wouldn't be lumping on Chis to get through with ease. Relative 'home' event for Chisnall though living in St Helens so he can commute every day to the event rather than living away from home. 3rd quarter Ando looks to have a cake walk into the semis. Tough to pick 7 easier opponents at this level in his quarter. Ando looks proper max bet e/w material to me at 5/1 at betway. He can't be a 5/2 poke to reach the final. Impossible. Just checked he is top price 7/4 to reach the final. Bottom quarter not much different to 3rd but at the prices i could back Wade! (can't believe i am saying this) if Snakebite is a bit out of form. He loves the place and had many deep runs here. Best match i ever saw live was his final v Taylor in 2012 when he just couldn't get over the line. 1/2 1,2 ew terms offered by some firms are a gift for players in the bottom half given how loaded the top half is. One last question. How the fuck does big John Henderson keep qualifying for these events? He is gash! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 21, 2017, 07:55:16 AM http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/Rankings.aspx
Rankings with 2015 matchplay results removed. 2 Most notable movers are James Wade down to 9 and Phil Taylor down to 11, this presents the very real possibility that Phil won't be in the top 8 after the mathplay and therefore wont be eligable to defend his Champions League of Darts title! The good news for Phil Taylor is that the 5 guys below him in the top 16 are not likely to get anywhere near him, and he's only £11.5k off 8th. Bad news is that of the 3 above him Jelle Klaasen has the easiest first round game despite fitness doubts, and Smith and Wade might well play each other in the second round which will mean one of them in the 1/4 where if Phil makes it there in the toughest 1/4 he'll be playing MVG. So chances of getting back look slim. Fascinatingly, there's only £500 between 10,9,8, Klaasen looks like a reasonably short price to bust round 2, and if Wade can get past a very in form & dangerous Darren Webster then him and Micheal Smith could effectively have a shootout for the Champions League Spot! Smith will be very glad of the £500 head start as if Jelle does make it to the 1/4s he'll face Garry. Given how tricky Barney's draw is, and Peter Wright not in the best of form Smith will fancy a go at #7, luckily for Barney his top 8 spot looks pretty safe. Don't think there's gonna be much movement either side of that bundle. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 24, 2017, 07:48:37 PM Back off holiday and ready for punting in my favourite event of the year.
We backing the wheelbarrows up on Rob Cross tonight? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 24, 2017, 09:28:00 PM Back off holiday and ready for punting in my favourite event of the year. We backing the wheelbarrows up on Rob Cross tonight? I've backed White. Think the Cross hype train has got a bit carried away. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on July 24, 2017, 09:30:49 PM Yeah wheelbarrows on White at the prices, should be small favourite imo
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 25, 2017, 10:14:34 AM Full wheelbarrows after last night!
Any love for Reyes tonight vs Wright? https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/world-matchplay/peter-wright-v-cristo-reyes/winner Wright averages 89 rd1 and looked very disjointed. Reyes knocked out the seeded Thornton, averaged 10, hit 5 180s and looked great. He played a fantastic match vs MvG at the Worlds this year as well and seems to be a player on the rise. Value at 7/2? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 25, 2017, 10:15:44 AM Full wheelbarrows after last night! Any love for Reyes tonight vs Wright? https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/world-matchplay/peter-wright-v-cristo-reyes/winner Wright averages 89 rd1 and looked very disjointed. Reyes knocked out the seeded Thornton, averaged 10, hit 5 180s and looked great. He played a fantastic match vs MvG at the Worlds this year as well and seems to be a player on the rise. Value at 7/2? 11/10 + 3.5 legs https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/world-matchplay/peter-wright-v-cristo-reyes/handicaps Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 25, 2017, 10:26:27 PM This was the form you were supposed to show last year Daryl
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 25, 2017, 10:53:58 PM Incredible game!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 26, 2017, 07:15:17 AM Incredible game! For someone I have tagged as pretty flaky his finishing was superb. 55% doesn't tell the full story. Apart from the 2nd leg of the match every leg he had a dart at a double in he won. He also only had 3 occasions where he reached a double in a visit and didn't take it and one of them was a 170. It was an absolute clinic on finishing Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 26, 2017, 10:15:48 AM Yeah best game of the tournament by a mile. When you average 103, hit 9 180s and checkout over 50% you're gonna give anyone a proper game!!!
Most impressive thing for me was he held his nerve at the end, so many guys that are 8-16 in the world choke these spots against Garry, PW, MVG etc the ones that can hold there nerve there go on to do good things! The rankings are so brutal.... If Phil beats Barney and loses to MVG then he'll miss out on the #8 spot in the world by £1k, he'll actually stay in 11th by £500! If Gurney beats Mensur and loses in the semi he'll jump to #12 by £250, not bad considering he wasn't even seeded for this tournament! if he comes runner up, he'll miss out on the top 8 and the Champions League by £1000 as well! Just go to show how crucial grinding the tour is, if Phil had turned up to 1 pro tour weekend and made 1 quarter final! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 26, 2017, 11:57:17 AM Beating Wright and Anderson back to back last week have clearly given him the confidence to make the step up. He looks a lock for PL unless his form really fails off. Also strikes me as the type of character who won't be phased by it.
There's even more value grinding the tour now that MVG who used to be ever present picks and chooses his events. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 26, 2017, 06:23:25 PM Slight dent in the wheelbarrow last night, but attending live tonight OI Oi! Look out for the drunk bald fella with a Salmon pink polo on!
Thoughts on Croas against Lewis? I like one of the Hills specials : 8/5 Chizzee to win and > 11.5 180s in match. Good luck punters. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 27, 2017, 02:34:12 PM wheelbarrow took an actual pounding last 3 days.
Liking a bit of webster tonight though, the demolition man can repair the wheelbarrow! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 27, 2017, 03:22:38 PM It's not just me then! It's been a tough week. I wish I ran like chuck
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 27, 2017, 04:18:21 PM It's not just me then! It's been a tough week. I wish I ran like chuck Yeh, great weekend, then an abs bloodbath since monday. Rob Cross averaged 103 and 56% doubles vs a guy in horrible form who just had back surgery... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 27, 2017, 04:19:37 PM It's not just me then! It's been a tough week. I wish I ran like chuck Yeh, great weekend, then an abs bloodbath since monday. Rob Cross averaged 103 and 56% doubles vs a guy in horrible form who just had back surgery... Take on Stoke's finest at your peril young man! The home of darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 27, 2017, 04:21:25 PM Yep, the stokies got me
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on July 27, 2017, 07:17:15 PM Mensur on the drift, getting involved at 2.45+
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 27, 2017, 11:22:21 PM Been the last two nights - the atmosphere in the Winter Gardens is amazing.
Chunks on MvG to win it outright and got a ticket for the final Sunday and just booked for the Worlds at Ally Pally. Love the darts! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on July 28, 2017, 09:06:58 AM The "moving" board on the split camera shots is so tilting. Can't believe Sky have not been able to sort it all week.
Great tourney though. Lets hope MVG finishes Taylor off in style tonight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on July 28, 2017, 09:10:02 AM Been the last two nights - the atmosphere in the Winter Gardens is amazing. Chunks on MvG to win it outright and got a ticket for the final Sunday and just booked for the Worlds at Ally Pally. Love the darts! Hi Hutch, How much do you pay in order to get priority for buying tickets? Isn't quite clear on the website. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 28, 2017, 10:04:01 AM My friend and I book a priority pass between us each year. It's about £50 but gets us first choice to purchase tickets for all the majors and access to all the tour events that are streamed ( more punting).
It's pretty expensive but as a huge fan that enjoys the live experience it's worth it to us to flick in a pony each. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 28, 2017, 03:31:28 PM I've been loving it!
Had a brains week though, Lewis to hammer Norris (at last) and can't find a single bet on the Taylor/MVG game, think they've probably priced this one up pretty good. Kinda hoping Taylor would win but I won't anti-rail you Hutch :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 28, 2017, 04:25:02 PM I've been loving it! Had a brains week though, Lewis to hammer Norris (at last) and can't find a single bet on the Taylor/MVG game, think they've probably priced this one up pretty good. Kinda hoping Taylor would win but I won't anti-rail you Hutch :) Haha, been a tough week for punters! I shouted at Phil as he prepared for the walk on against Barney 'Come on Phil, I'm on -4.5.' His reply; 'should have took -6.5, I'm gonna do him.'. He really does love the Blackpool crowd and they love him, but can't see him denting my MvG wheelbarrows. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 28, 2017, 06:04:02 PM I've been loving it! Had a brains week though, Lewis to hammer Norris (at last) and can't find a single bet on the Taylor/MVG game, think they've probably priced this one up pretty good. Kinda hoping Taylor would win but I won't anti-rail you Hutch :) Haha, been a tough week for punters! I shouted at Phil as he prepared for the walk on against Barney 'Come on Phil, I'm on -4.5.' His reply; 'should have took -6.5, I'm gonna do him.'. He really does love the Blackpool crowd and they love him, but can't see him denting my MvG wheelbarrows. Haha that's amazing! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 28, 2017, 07:46:22 PM If Gurney manages to win the whole thing...he'd be #5 in the world! Starting at #17.... pretty how wide open Darts is outside outside of the top 3
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 28, 2017, 08:08:57 PM Nappy factor maybe for jackpot? Expecting his third kid next week. Bills to pay.
Incredible Gurney could be 5th in the rankings next week. Like Dave says though outside the top 4 there is only a TV major between about 12-15 players from 5 to high teens, especially for the newer players with no money to defend from two years ago. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 28, 2017, 08:29:28 PM Lewis mate wtf are you doing to me. Bring this in 16-11 and stop fucking about.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 28, 2017, 08:39:26 PM How does he not cover there? Seriously?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 28, 2017, 08:48:16 PM Great prep spending 3 hours sat in a car when you have a bad back. Clown.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 28, 2017, 08:57:51 PM Great prep spending 3 hours sat in a car when you have a bad back. Clown. That just shows you how brain dead he is travelling up the M6 on probably the second busiest Friday rush hour for traffic (peak summer holiday season) going from Stoke to Bpool through all the Manchester M6/M62 traffic. How much does a hotel cost in Bpool nowadays? Incredible. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 28, 2017, 09:09:00 PM This could be a classic potentially (or just a one sided blowout)!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 28, 2017, 09:26:25 PM Incredible scenes.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 28, 2017, 09:53:20 PM Send more money.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on July 28, 2017, 09:58:46 PM Why do the crowd cheer for a sex offender?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 28, 2017, 10:08:35 PM Great prep spending 3 hours sat in a car when you have a bad back. Clown. Yep Incredible scenes. Yep Send more money. Yep Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 28, 2017, 10:16:40 PM Rankings now very interesting....
Phil now locked up his top 8 spot for the Champions League of Darts, if he makes the final he'll go back to world #6, and if he wins back to world # 4! The ramifications of being 4 instead of 8 mean that he'll get an easier run in the majors and likely hold his rankings a lot easier for the Worlds. He could easily have ended up down towards the bottom end of the top 16 and his swansong performance at the worlds might have been in rnd 3 against MVG/Garry... Who might he oust from the #4 spot - Adrian Lewis of course! Big turnaround :) Gurney could move up to world #5 with a win, whereas PW with a win can overtake Garry as #2, which outside being kinda cool doesn't make a massive difference. Would be somewhat of a fairytale for Phil to win this. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 28, 2017, 10:23:17 PM I reckon MVG's missus gone into labour and he fucked the game off to get to the airport. His decision making was all over the shop from leg 1 right until the end. Why would you leave d3 when you got 146 left and Taylor not on a checkout? Among numerous other baffling decisions tonight by him.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 28, 2017, 10:44:09 PM I reckon MVG's missus gone into labour and he fucked the game off to get to the airport. His decision making was all over the shop from leg 1 right until the end. Why would you leave d3 when you got 146 left and Taylor not on a checkout? Among numerous other baffling decisions tonight by him. Yeah, very odd, IDK if his head had gone with all his cocky "no one is trouble for me" stuff all the way through the week, comes out, starts badly, gets booed, loses his head a bit and falls apart? So odd, like he thought all he needed to do was turn up and he'd walk it? Whats Phil's issue with Wayne Mardle btw? had loads of digs at him over the years did I miss something from their playing days? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on July 28, 2017, 10:45:13 PM I reckon MVG's missus gone into labour and he fucked the game off to get to the airport. His decision making was all over the shop from leg 1 right until the end. Why would you leave d3 when you got 146 left and Taylor not on a checkout? Among numerous other baffling decisions tonight by him. Yeah, very odd, IDK if his head had gone with all his cocky "no one is trouble for me" stuff all the way through the week, comes out, starts badly, gets booed, loses his head a bit and falls apart? So odd, like he thought all he needed to do was turn up and he'd walk it? Whats Phil's issue with Wayne Mardle btw? had loads of digs at him over the years did I miss something from their playing days? Isn't he just a snide *****, who has issues with everyone? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 28, 2017, 10:48:04 PM I reckon MVG's missus gone into labour and he fucked the game off to get to the airport. His decision making was all over the shop from leg 1 right until the end. Why would you leave d3 when you got 146 left and Taylor not on a checkout? Among numerous other baffling decisions tonight by him. Yeah, very odd, IDK if his head had gone with all his cocky "no one is trouble for me" stuff all the way through the week, comes out, starts badly, gets booed, loses his head a bit and falls apart? So odd, like he thought all he needed to do was turn up and he'd walk it? Whats Phil's issue with Wayne Mardle btw? had loads of digs at him over the years did I miss something from their playing days? Not sure with Mardle but like Marky says it is anyone and everyone. He even managed to have a pop at jackpot in his post match interview as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on July 28, 2017, 10:50:54 PM I reckon MVG's missus gone into labour and he fucked the game off to get to the airport. His decision making was all over the shop from leg 1 right until the end. Why would you leave d3 when you got 146 left and Taylor not on a checkout? Among numerous other baffling decisions tonight by him. Yeah, very odd, IDK if his head had gone with all his cocky "no one is trouble for me" stuff all the way through the week, comes out, starts badly, gets booed, loses his head a bit and falls apart? So odd, like he thought all he needed to do was turn up and he'd walk it? Whats Phil's issue with Wayne Mardle btw? had loads of digs at him over the years did I miss something from their playing days? Not sure with Mardle but like Marky says it is anyone and everyone. He even managed to have a pop at jackpot in his post match interview as well. He's just a truly horrible man. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 07:18:32 AM Reckon it tilts him how much money MVG is making compared to him in his hay day? The levels of dominance are equal and Taylors period was over such a long time, if the current set up financially was there in Taylor's day he'd have made £25m+ from prize money!!
Even though he's had the absolute lot out the game, his prize money must be dwarfed by the value of his pdc interest? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on July 29, 2017, 07:23:06 AM Reckon it tilts him how much money MVG is making compared to him in his hay day? The levels of dominance are equal and Taylors period was over such a long time, if the current set up financially was there in Taylor's day he'd have made £25m+ from prize money!! Even though he's had the absolute lot out the game, his prize money must be dwarfed by the value of his pdc interest? Spot on I reckon Dave, always seems like a sense of entitlement with Phil, like darts wouldn't be were it is without him, even if it's true I don't think he can stand the amount of money in the game now, probably why he still hangs around. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 09:34:24 AM Yeh, MVG made a few quid less for his last WC win than PT won for his first 10!
Would have thought he would have been a litte less aggro last night, he claimed that Lewis would never admit it that he helped him out a lot at the start of his career...whereas I recall numerous interviews where Lewis gives Phil a lot of credit for his rise in the game? He always shows him a huge amount of respect at least. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 09:48:39 AM Yeh, MVG made a few quid less for his last WC win than PT won for his first 10! Would have thought he would have been a litte less aggro last night, he claimed that Lewis would never admit it that he helped him out a lot at the start of his career...whereas I recall numerous interviews where Lewis gives Phil a lot of credit for his rise in the game? He always shows him a huge amount of respect at least. I would be amazed if Taylor hasn't properly looked after his cash throughout his career so the above statement must be slightly misleading and doesn't take account for inflation. Every time he won a TV major even in those days he could have taken the money back to Stoke and bought a house with it pretty much. These houses will now all be worth what a 2017 tv major pays in cash effectively. He must be worth £20m at least surely? I don't think he is motivated by money at all. He is a nasty person by nature with a chip on his shoulder and i think he just lives for nights like last night when he can still prove to the world he has it. He keeps playing for me because he has nothing else to do in his life, loves the needle/aggro and ultimately he knows without him darts isn't the product it is today. His ego thrives on knowing that and letting other people know that and he knows he can keep playing for as long as he wants. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he keeps playing next year as well (just in the TV majors like this year). He has said many times he is retiring. If at the end of this year he is still ranked in the top 8 in the world only playing the tv majors then i can't see him retiring. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on July 29, 2017, 10:32:58 AM Adrian LewisVerified account @jackpot180
Hi folks, the reason why I'm going backwards & forwards from home because my bed is a lot more comfortable after my operation. 1/2 Adrian LewisVerified account @jackpot180 I'm only 55 mins from home and my surgeon said I'm lucky this injury did not end my career. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 10:35:06 AM Adrian LewisVerified account @jackpot180 Hi folks, the reason why I'm going backwards & forwards from home because my bed is a lot more comfortable after my operation. 1/2 Adrian LewisVerified account @jackpot180 I'm only 55 mins from home and my surgeon said I'm lucky this injury did not end my career. Must have a hell of a car/driver to get from newcastle under lyme to Blackpool in under an hour. 83 miles and 1 hour 40 minutes on google maps. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 10:37:08 AM https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1881660/divorce-judge-tells-darts-legend-phil-taylor-at-least-his-wife-cant-take-his-nickname-as-he-awards-her-a-huge-chunk-of-his-3-4m-fortune/
Costly divorce Phil!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 10:45:09 AM £3.4m net worth? PDC only valued at £5m as a company? Really?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 10:50:28 AM Should have hired a helicopter, seriously!
BAsic research looks like it would have cost ~£2700 and the match is for £13k and he's a big favourite, plus it'll be tax deductible and he really needs a good showing at one of the majors after a pretty poor yeh, pretty much insignificant really the costs in the grand scheme. Help me out with this Taylor/Lewis game.... Officially I think Taylor should be ~ 3/5 but MAJOR doubts over Lewis' staying power after he collapsed against Norris yesterday, outside of those 8 legs though he was absolutely brilliant. Phil was also awesome against Barney & MVG, he's knocking on though and has shown a bit of fatigue/lack of focus this year, he played last night and playing late tonight... Could that be a factor?? Lewis seems to be playing super relaxed aside from the injury, and Phil wants this one SO bad.... Do we have to assume that Lewis just isn't going to have a 30 leg game in him? Shall we look at the under 28.5 legs market @ 6/5 or you think it's gonna be a cracker??? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 10:55:28 AM Should have hired a helicopter, seriously! BAsic research looks like it would have cost ~£2700 and the match is for £13k and he's a big favourite, plus it'll be tax deductible and he really needs a good showing at one of the majors after a pretty poor yeh, pretty much insignificant really the costs in the grand scheme. Help me out with this Taylor/Lewis game.... Officially I think Taylor should be ~ 3/5 but MAJOR doubts over Lewis' staying power after he collapsed against Norris yesterday, outside of those 8 legs though he was absolutely brilliant. Phil was also awesome against Barney & MVG, he's knocking on though and has shown a bit of fatigue/lack of focus this year, he played last night and playing late tonight... Could that be a factor?? Lewis seems to be playing super relaxed aside from the injury, and Phil wants this one SO bad.... Do we have to assume that Lewis just isn't going to have a 30 leg game in him? Shall we look at the under 28.5 legs market @ 6/5 or you think it's gonna be a cracker??? How about just renting a decent apartment in blackpool for a week circa £500 tops. Get your agent to order you an identical version of your magic bed and get it delivered to the said apartment. Circa £1500 tops. Still cheaper than a helicopter and you can stay all week! His missus is heavily pregnant tbf so that is probably the main reason why he is commuting daily. Would jackpot fit in a helicopter? Would it take off? Lewis looked in pain to me towards the end of the match and fell over the line. I hope he is fit and they put on a proper match. Taylor could also bounce maybe ? Beating MVG nowadays is like beating Taylor 10 years ago and Taylor might suffer from the bounce of turning over MVG. So many questions to ask and try to answer. Surprised in the gulf in the prices in the other semi tbh. I think it should be a lot closer in the betting. Wright hasn't impressed me this week at all. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 29, 2017, 11:47:05 AM Crowd likely to be a factor in the Taylor game as well. Looks like his opponents are going to have to put up with a hostile atmosphere.
I've backed Gurney, 2/1 looks huge to me. Gurney been superb all week and was the same in Vegas. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 11:47:42 AM I think Gurney is a slam dunk bet at the prices, arguably been the best player in the tournament and PW's not been himself for weeks.
At a loss with the Lewis game, everything seems to be pointing toward a lewis handicap bet but a little scared about it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 29, 2017, 11:56:15 AM I think Gurney is a slam dunk bet at the prices, arguably been the best player in the tournament and PW's not been himself for weeks. At a loss with the Lewis game, everything seems to be pointing toward a lewis handicap bet but a little scared about it. Like the 6/5 on u28.5 legs Dave. Taylor going to blow Lewis away I reckon. As regards to Gurney, it clearly means more to Gurney than anyone else. He is throwing darts and celebrating doubles like his life depends on it. My personal favourite is when he holds the pose after landing one - like cricketers do when they hit the cover drive. After his interview he got involved with the crowd and literally had tears in his eyes. Was awesome to see such raw emotion and to see how much it meant to him. That's not to say he's going to beat Wright but he is deffo a player on the rise and his attitude is much improved from where he nearly imploded vs Webby in the Worlds. In a side-note, he had a fella in the VIP when he played Suljovic the other night who was literally sweating every single dart hard and sat right at the front where the families usually sit. We wondered if it was investor, boyfriend, close relative (brother) or just really good mate and couldn't work out which one it was? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 12:13:53 PM Ha, incredible. Wonder who it was.
Think I need a bit more skin on the U28.5 legs, just no idea whats going to happen in this game, got punting trouble written all over it... The 180's line looks a bit off to me, Taylor heatered on the 180s yday but might be suffering from fatigue today, Lewis went totally off the boil yday, U16.5 @ 10/11 looks like the best bet on this game to me? Gone Gurney +3.5, and Gurney outright, would go in a little further on +2.5 if you could get 2.25. Also think the 180's line on this game is off, PW's 180 stats are pretty strong but in recent weeks he's been hitting at a mensur-like pace, Gurney is an absolute monster but the lines 19.5 and the unders @ evens looks good to me. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 12:23:13 PM Gurney comes across as a pretty smart guy and has probably realised he is in the easy half of the draw this week and knows this week could be his magical stepping stone into the top 5-10 in the rankings given how tight it is around the 5-16 spots, the fact he has no prize money to defend from 2 years ago and everything that goes along with it (easier draws in future ranking events/invite to the PL/increased sponsorship revenue). He probably saw the draw and really got his head down practice wise before vegas and has really 'laid himself out' for this summer effort wise. A good run in this event could be worth well in excess of £1m longer term career wise for him to crack the top 10 in the rankings. It is much bigger than just the £115k prize money itself for someone like Gurney who doesn't want to be stuck around 13-16 in the rankings and constantly banging into the big boys in the last 16. This gives him the opportunity to bypass the graveyard of that spot which so many other players get stuck in.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 12:31:55 PM A win here defo worth £1m to gurney I agree. If he can follow it up with more results then a lot more probably, he'd be a lock for the PL and all the series events, even with a final tbh.
http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/Rankings.aspx Current rankings up to date with 2015 matchplay deducted and prize money up to the semi awarded. Crazy how Gurney stays 12th if he comes 2nd and goes 5th or 4th if he wins! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 12:38:35 PM Even the jump to 12 from unseeded (outside the top 16) is a huge jump just to avoid the 13-16 graveyard. Run into Chis/Lewis/Sujovic at the last 16/quarter final stages rather than big 3 which only helps enhance your ranking further moving forward.
By contrast G Price who had the draw from hell this year in Blackpool finds himself outside of the top 16 after this event looking in. Price and Gurney were pretty identical ranking wise/potential wise. Just shows you how much the luck of the draw is involved in darts at the top level and how much one event like this can change/hinder your income for the future. Wade's time in the top 10 is probably over for good and i doubt we will see him in the PL again next year and moving forward. Be interesting to see how motivated he is to try and get back into the big time once he falls out as he clearly isn't in love with the game. He has very little money to defend for the rest of this year though up until the worlds. He lost first round in Dublin in 2015 and 2nd round at Worlds in 2015/16. Big 6 months for Wade to sort his ranking out. Could easily see him retired in 2 years time. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 01:13:13 PM Yeh, Wade's in big trouble. He doesn't have a huge amount of ranking money to defend between now and the worlds, and the money between 10 and 5 is tight so every chance he could find some form and run back up the rankings a little. He's playing so badly though I just can't see it happening, he's outside the top 16 in the pro tour as well so needs to qualify for all the euro's whilst pretty much everyone else who's clustered around him gets automatically.
I think Gerwyn Price has a lot of potential, he's a likeable character and got plenty of bottle, however he's a solid 92 average/35% doubles kind of player and it's just not good enough for top 16 these days, think he has a big edge on most people around him in the rankings cos of his image but needs to up his game to make to step up I think. Never seen the A* game from him that we've seen (in small phases admittedly) from Kim Huybrechts, Benito van de Pas, Ian White, Micheal Smith and that's the level he needs crack. Once he steps up and is consistently a 95 average 38% doubles guy then I think he'll be in the top 16 easily and will have a much easier run to the PL then people like Ian White who you could argue are much more deserving on merit. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 29, 2017, 08:45:15 PM Woeful, woeful stuff from Gurney. Horrible tournament.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 08:48:55 PM Woeful, woeful stuff from Gurney. Horrible tournament. BDO standard tonight. Very poor. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: vegaslover on July 29, 2017, 09:06:09 PM Woeful, woeful stuff from Gurney. Horrible tournament. BDO standard tonight. Very poor. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 09:09:51 PM Woeful, woeful stuff from Gurney. Horrible tournament. BDO standard tonight. Very poor. Grab the remote back for elstokeio Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 09:11:29 PM Dreadful darts, but fascinating game at the end.
Well Daryl, you won't get a better chance than that to make the final of a major for a while. You got within 3.5 legs of your man though :#) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 09:12:16 PM Abs no idea what is gonna happen here
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 29, 2017, 09:17:35 PM I can't remember a tournament where I have found so many good spots and virtually every one has been turned over.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 09:19:00 PM Abs no idea what is gonna happen here Both average 110 and put on an all time classic. Fingers crossed. #wearestoke! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 09:30:41 PM I can't remember a tournament where I have found so many good spots and virtually every one has been turned over. Yep, we must have been on the same slip. Spent the whole week betting stuff at 2.4 I'd make 1.95 and doing chunks every night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 09:32:19 PM Abs no idea what is gonna happen here Both average 110 and put on an all time classic. Fingers crossed. #wearestoke! Totally different game, atmosphere a million times better. #whereisstoke Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 09:37:31 PM Jetlag from vegas/China def had an effect imo on some of the bigger names. This should be a stand alone major with no such distraction directly beforehand. It is the second major and needs to be given the credit scheduling wise it deserves. When the number 2 seed announces he hasn't practiced for a week beforehand because of the travel previously it isn't good news.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 09:48:38 PM Agree. The series are cool and a good spectacle but they don't really matter in the grand scheme.
The u180s pick for this doesn't look like my finest moment Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 09:54:57 PM MVG's missus given birth yet?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2017, 10:35:34 PM Hey the u180s came in I wrote it off 30 minutes ago wasn't even railing it
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2017, 10:45:55 PM Hey the u180s came in I wrote it off 30 minutes ago wasn't even railing it Skill game. Taylor very impressive tonight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2017, 12:42:25 PM So the power proves yet again why he is the greatest sportsman in English sporting history. A tougher draw was pretty impossible on route to his 16th World Matchplay title. He smashed Price, Barney, MVG, Jackpot and Snakebite on route. Definitely was assisted by the jet lag/travelling suffered by some of the others in China/Vegas in the preceding weeks but his performances/averages are hard to argue with. Back up to 4 in the world just ahead of Lewis in the rankings. Phil has virtually no money to defend either in the remaining big two events this year from 2015/16 (Grand prix and Worlds). He lost in the first round in the grand prix in 2015 and 3rd round of the worlds in 2015/16 so every reason to think he will stay ranked 4 for this years worlds.
https://www.pdc.tv/pdc-order-of-merit Conversely looking ahead Thornton is about to fall into the abyss when his £100k from the 2015 grand prix falls off the money list in a couple of months and he will be struggling to stay in the top 32 and his top level career is effectively over. Suljuvic and Mark Webster both have £23.5k to defend in Ireland from 2105 semi spots. The other player with big pressure to defend money in the next 6 months is Klassen who has £85k to defend from the 2015 GP and 2015/16 worlds (semi final finish for £70k) combined. A poor/average finish in both events this year could easily see Klassen slipping out of the 16 after the worlds. Maybe Wade might still squeeze into the Premier league next year after all. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 31, 2017, 12:48:48 PM Looks like gg for Thornton. No form at all for the best part of two years now, I suspect once he drops out of the top 32 he will be done. Klaasen badly out of sorts as well since his wrist surgery. Not ideal when you are defending a lot of $$.
It was some performance by Phil to get the win with that draw. His finishing which has been ropey for years was back to his vintage best. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2017, 01:43:31 PM Looks like gg for Thornton. No form at all for the best part of two years now, I suspect once he drops out of the top 32 he will be done. Klaasen badly out of sorts as well since his wrist surgery. Not ideal when you are defending a lot of $$. It was some performance by Phil to get the win with that draw. His finishing which has been ropey for years was back to his vintage best. Correct. As an aside to slumps down the rankings i know Wes Newton was suffering from a shoulder injury but has he actually retired now? He is down in the 60's in the rankings and unsighted on TV for the last 18 months since the 2016 worlds. Incredible slump from the Premier League to this in a matter of years. Just another case of the PL destroying a player's confidence and knowing they don't belong at the very top table? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 31, 2017, 02:00:01 PM Still playing but hasn't been beyond the last 32 of any Pro Tour event since March last year. He will lose his tour card at the end of the year. I think it was the combination of the injury combined with his confidence getting shot to pieces that have effectively ended his career before his 40th birthday. It can't be easy going back to the daily grind for the likes of him.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2017, 02:14:29 PM Still playing but hasn't been beyond the last 32 of any Pro Tour event since March last year. He will lose his tour card at the end of the year. I think it was the combination of the injury combined with his confidence getting shot to pieces that have effectively ended his career before his 40th birthday. It can't be easy going back to the daily grind for the likes of him. Jesus that's even worse then that just being injured the fact he is fit and still playing and can't even operate at that level and get some results. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 31, 2017, 02:40:14 PM Still playing but hasn't been beyond the last 32 of any Pro Tour event since March last year. He will lose his tour card at the end of the year. I think it was the combination of the injury combined with his confidence getting shot to pieces that have effectively ended his career before his 40th birthday. It can't be easy going back to the daily grind for the likes of him. Jesus that's even worse then that just being injured the fact he is fit and still playing and can't even operate at that level and get some results. He's earnt £4750 so far this year. Take off entry fees and expenses and he's in a hole. I dare say his sponsors will have long since ditched him as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2017, 04:53:04 PM Still playing but hasn't been beyond the last 32 of any Pro Tour event since March last year. He will lose his tour card at the end of the year. I think it was the combination of the injury combined with his confidence getting shot to pieces that have effectively ended his career before his 40th birthday. It can't be easy going back to the daily grind for the likes of him. Jesus that's even worse then that just being injured the fact he is fit and still playing and can't even operate at that level and get some results. He's earnt £4750 so far this year. Take off entry fees and expenses and he's in a hole. I dare say his sponsors will have long since ditched him as well. I was reading his twitter page and unicorn made a statement wishing him well in the future earlier this year so they must have dropped him. He must have been earning £250k a year all in during 2013/14/15 you would imagine. Some change in lifestyle for sure. Can't imagine his phone is ringing constantly for exhibitions either. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on July 31, 2017, 06:15:26 PM Still playing but hasn't been beyond the last 32 of any Pro Tour event since March last year. He will lose his tour card at the end of the year. I think it was the combination of the injury combined with his confidence getting shot to pieces that have effectively ended his career before his 40th birthday. It can't be easy going back to the daily grind for the likes of him. Jesus that's even worse then that just being injured the fact he is fit and still playing and can't even operate at that level and get some results. He's earnt £4750 so far this year. Take off entry fees and expenses and he's in a hole. I dare say his sponsors will have long since ditched him as well. I was reading his twitter page and unicorn made a statement wishing him well in the future earlier this year so they must have dropped him. He must have been earning £250k a year all in during 2013/14/15 you would imagine. Some change in lifestyle for sure. Can't imagine his phone is ringing constantly for exhibitions either. Quite sad to hear really, surely someone who has been at that level and is still relatively young should get someone like Elliot Rowe in. Could easily get another decade or more of a decent living. No nothing of his personal circumstances obviously. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2017, 07:53:58 PM Still playing but hasn't been beyond the last 32 of any Pro Tour event since March last year. He will lose his tour card at the end of the year. I think it was the combination of the injury combined with his confidence getting shot to pieces that have effectively ended his career before his 40th birthday. It can't be easy going back to the daily grind for the likes of him. Jesus that's even worse then that just being injured the fact he is fit and still playing and can't even operate at that level and get some results. He's earnt £4750 so far this year. Take off entry fees and expenses and he's in a hole. I dare say his sponsors will have long since ditched him as well. I was reading his twitter page and unicorn made a statement wishing him well in the future earlier this year so they must have dropped him. He must have been earning £250k a year all in during 2013/14/15 you would imagine. Some change in lifestyle for sure. Can't imagine his phone is ringing constantly for exhibitions either. Quite sad to hear really, surely someone who has been at that level and is still relatively young should get someone like Elliot Rowe in. Could easily get another decade or more of a decent living. No nothing of his personal circumstances obviously. I think he over achieved relative to his natural talent in that era. He had a two year window rankings wise which offered him entry into all the big events and benefited from the PL expanding to 10 players from 8. Ultimately getting so high might have ruined his confidence and chances of bouncing around the top 16-32 for another decade which is probably his natural talent level. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 31, 2017, 08:35:38 PM I think he had to change his stance and throw due to injury problems caused by the way he used to lean over.
Agree about him overachieving. He ran good in a couple of majors which got him in to the top 10 and he was then able to perform to that ranking by making QF's regularly. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2017, 08:38:06 PM I think he had to change his stance and throw due to injury problems caused by the way he used to lean over. Agree about him overachieving. He ran good in a couple of majors which got him in to the top 10 and he was then able to perform to that ranking by making QF's regularly. Yes he had a terrible action anyway before injury and his original action might have caused the injury as he always looked so unbalanced and jocky wilson like at times throwing and snatching. Looking at his record in majors it's incredible he ever got as high in the rankings as he did tbh. He never even had a Thorn/Whitlock major one off bink winning a TV major or getting to the worlds final etc. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 01, 2017, 07:27:42 AM I think Thornton at his best is/was a legit top player, he used to be a big 180 man and very reliable finisher, especially on dbl top. Last year or so he's been ~25% doubling and that's not going to get anything done :-(
Standard of people coming up 32-16 now is pretty strong, high can't expect to stay in the top 16 long without a decent grind and consistently good performances. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 01, 2017, 07:34:57 AM Only just watched the final of the MP, amazing really from Taylor, he has no form really that suggested he was capable of producing this performance. Toughest draw and he obliterated it, we rarely see utter domination of a tournament like this, with the best 32 players in the world.
If he plays like that again, with MVG distracted by his kid being born, PW off his game a bit and garry being a bit unreliable he could defo ship another major before he quits Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on August 01, 2017, 08:14:52 AM What has happened to Cory Cadby?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 01, 2017, 08:17:40 AM What has happened to Cory Cadby? He decided against moving to the UK to try get his tour card grind the tour this year, but I think he intends to give it a go. Hopefully we see him qualify for the Perth and Melbourne masters and get to see how he's getting on. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 05, 2017, 04:05:14 PM yep, Corey Cadby qualified for the Aukland, Melbourne and Perth Masters events this month. He was automatically into the Aussie ones as Aus Dart Player #1 and qualified for Aukland.
No MVG so the 8 PDC guys are: Garry Anderson Peter Wright Phil Taylor James Wade Daryl Gurney Raymond van Barnevald Micheal Smith Simon Whitlock Kyle Anderson gets a wildcard spot in both as highest ranked Aussie not already in there. Kyle Anderson, Simon Whitlock, Daryl Gurney and Micheal Smith the only ones who came to play the Players Championships this weekend, Kyle Anderson just fired a 9 darter in! I would have thought Wade missing any ProTour event without the big dogs is pretty stupid, Micheal Smith must be loving it, hes £500 ahead of the two guys below him and neither of them played this weekend. Can't really blame Jelle who didn't look like he should be playing in Blackpool but i'm guessing Wade's reasoning is that he is getting ready for travelling to AUS. It's a heavy schedule coming up, 3 weeks in Aus, then a euro tour straight away after, another the following weekend, the champs league the week after then another euro tour, a weekend of payers champs then the grand prix. Be interesting to see if MVG comes back for the CL or the euro tours, and if Chizzy and Mensur go to play both euros. Peter Wright is the only person who is likely to try play everything and at 47~ surely thats got to be a terrible idea with this heavy a schedule. Lewis might be really fancying that as he's not in AUS or likely to play any of the euro tours. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 11, 2017, 09:36:29 AM you'll just never see a worse game this, jesus christ wtf.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on August 11, 2017, 12:18:54 PM That result doesn't do Gurney's chances and harm.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 11, 2017, 01:33:29 PM the place part in particular looks to be pretty decent.
Great looking set of fixtures tomorrow. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on August 11, 2017, 01:41:58 PM Cadby 7/4 won't last
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 11, 2017, 03:09:11 PM Cadby 7/4 won't last yeh, you wont be getting anythng over 2.5 on BF when it KO's. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 12, 2017, 10:06:32 AM First time Wade has played like that in a long time.
This one is shaping up very nicely for PT Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 13, 2017, 07:48:35 AM Loving that the NZ PM is just in the crowd having a beer
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 13, 2017, 08:14:01 AM I tell you one thing... you wouldn't wanna get hit by a dart Corey Cadby has thrown at you would you!!!
Like a bloody crossbow! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on August 13, 2017, 09:13:57 AM If Cadby makes the move and can settle over here he will do real damage.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 13, 2017, 09:21:34 AM If Cadby makes the move and can settle over here he will do real damage. yeh looks legit doesn't he. IDK what to make of the shenanigans on stage there... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 13, 2017, 09:24:36 AM what you make of the final bazza?
Instinctively I feel like it should probably be really close Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 13, 2017, 10:39:23 AM incredible game, absolutely incredible.
Throw a 9-darter in and it's the perfect game. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on August 13, 2017, 11:19:06 AM Yeah that was top quality stuff from both. Anderson has really kicked on since disappointing at the Matchplay.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 17, 2017, 12:34:29 PM What do yuo reckon to the draw this weekend?
Looks like Kyle Anderson has a good shot another deep run. Make him less than 5/2 to make the semis, it's pretty amazing that Anderson is 25/1 and Cadby is 12/1 when Anderson beat Cadby in the final and Cadby has the toughest draw in the competition. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on August 17, 2017, 12:40:42 PM why is barney seeded 2? How do the seedings work for these invitation events?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on August 17, 2017, 01:19:44 PM What do yuo reckon to the draw this weekend? Looks like Kyle Anderson has a good shot another deep run. Make him less than 5/2 to make the semis, it's pretty amazing that Anderson is 25/1 and Cadby is 12/1 when Anderson beat Cadby in the final and Cadby has the toughest draw in the competition. Agree I've backed Kyle. Possible let down spot after winning last week but I'm happy to take my chances at 25s given he has weakest 1st round opponent and weakest seed in QF. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on August 24, 2017, 08:28:35 PM Someone must be having a punt on the Perth Masters. I'm a bit lost with all our faves being in the bottom half of the draw with Taylor and Wright.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on August 25, 2017, 10:25:34 AM The recent WS events haven't been good for the bank balance. I want to oppose Anderson in the top half as I'm not sure he is all that arsed about these events. He really isn't up against much though. The bottom half looks like a minefield. I think Cadby at evens is decent against a Barney who strikes me as another who can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 25, 2017, 10:48:50 AM Yeh I agree, Anderson (Gary) Looks like he's having a cracking holiday, he'll throw a dart or two and if he does well great but if you followed him around this week I'm pretty sure you'd have spent most of your time by the pool :) He has a far from easy opener against Rob Szazbo as well, Whitlock flashes from amazing to average he could easily turn Gary over but could also get beat 10-2.
Barney looks like he's in the same boat having a nice jolly, you just don't know what the hell Peter Wright is all about, changing darts, missing doubles. Gurney looks to be losing some of his consistency from the past few months and has a poor draw, Kyle Anderson playing great but has the worst draw out of anyone. Phil looks like a reasonable favourite but don't think you can do it at the prices. With all this in mind I've gone again on Smith outright 20-1 and a bit EW at 16s. Has the easiest route to the semis on paper and I think he's going to be fired up for this one. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 25, 2017, 10:49:52 AM I think Szazbo +4.5 @ 11/8 is a good one given how unfocused Gary is (Betfred)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on August 25, 2017, 01:42:24 PM I think Szazbo +4.5 @ 11/8 is a good one given how unfocused Gary is (Betfred) Perfect. It slots inbetween the 2 games worth watching, Taylor Ando and RVB Cadby. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on August 25, 2017, 04:11:51 PM Sigh at Cady not holding throw from 5-5 after that super 180, 161 checkout.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 25, 2017, 05:02:17 PM I think Szazbo +4.5 @ 11/8 is a good one given how unfocused Gary is (Betfred) Perfect. It slots inbetween the 2 games worth watching, Taylor Ando and RVB Cadby. Not quite perfect I'm afraid :( Bazza, i'll see you at the soup kitchen. Brutal times. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on August 25, 2017, 05:24:25 PM I think Szazbo +4.5 @ 11/8 is a good one given how unfocused Gary is (Betfred) Perfect. It slots inbetween the 2 games worth watching, Taylor Ando and RVB Cadby. Not quite perfect I'm afraid :( Bazza, i'll see you at the soup kitchen. Brutal times. Corey's a good kid but not yet perfect. Maybe if he tried throwing the dart a little harder.. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 25, 2017, 09:04:20 PM Haha yeh, you don't wanna get hit by a Corey Cadby Dart!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 10, 2017, 09:37:44 PM Rob Cross turned it on this weekend, averaged 104 up the final but wasn't quite good enough for the bald guy
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on September 11, 2017, 09:43:29 AM Rob Cross turned it on this weekend, averaged 104 up the final but wasn't quite good enough for the bald guy He has to be in the running for a PL spot now. Obviously needs a big TV performance but has a few chances left. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 12, 2017, 10:14:48 AM Rob Cross turned it on this weekend, averaged 104 up the final but wasn't quite good enough for the bald guy He has to be in the running for a PL spot now. Obviously needs a big TV performance but has a few chances left. Yeh defo a couple of 1/4s and some good performances and he's a big favourite... Deep run at the world's would lock it obviously. Pl interesting... Mvg Lewis Garry Wright Barny Chizzy Those are locked up, that leaves 4 (!) places up for grabs Wade probably sneak back in despite a horrible year? Gurney and Cross the stand out newbie candidates, Mensur world #7 has tobe in the running but no one who doesn't watch darts every week has a clue who he is! I wonder if some grinder like Ian White gets a shot or they wild card it with someone like cristo reyes try boost some Spanish darts. Kyle Anderson might get a poke for the aussie viewers? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on September 12, 2017, 11:42:16 AM Yeah those six are locks. I think Superchin is a lock as well barring a real dip in form. Kyle Anderson is coming with a late run and has to be in with a shout. Has the perfect game for the format plus the Aussie factor. Suljovic probably merits a spot based on ranking although his style isn't ideal for the format. I'd expect Cross to do enough between now and January to get a place as well. Smith and Price have both tailed off of late and surely Wade doesn't get another shot at it?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 12, 2017, 11:57:10 AM Didn't Mensur say last year when his name was mentioned he didn't want a spot? Guess when you live Austria travelling every week is tough, still it's like gtd £80K and incredible for sponsorship possibilities so seems a bit mad.
Wade....doesn't deserve the spot, out of the top 10, no runs in majors, no titles, averaged 90 all year, reputation alone and the fact Phil is gg, Huybrects and Klaasen have done nothing, might sneak in purely on reputation. Mvg Garry Wright Lewis Chizzy Barney Gurney Cross Mensur, Smith, Anderson I think given there is a leg in Belgium this year I think any sort of anything from Kim Huybrects would probably get him in Wade would probably get a spot with some sort of form resurgence and a deep run in a major. Price not done anything and didn't impress in the World Series, not in much form think he'll need a real rush to get in. Someone like Benito van de Pas with a deep run somewhere? Been more consistent than Jelle and the Dutch do love it. Perhaps a Phil Taylor extension? Corey Cadby before he even gets hours tour card? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 17, 2017, 10:05:10 PM Did not see that coming!!!
That was a thoroughly enjoyable tournament from start to finish actually. gotta be locked for the PL if he wants it Mensur Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on September 17, 2017, 10:48:03 PM Even if he does retire from the regular tour, I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor plays the Premier League.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on September 18, 2017, 04:25:40 PM Yeah Mensur a lock now assuming he accepts.
Some tasty first round matches at WGP. Pity it's such a short format. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sparkles on September 18, 2017, 10:14:13 PM I think Robert Thornton is very big odds vs Kim Huybrechts who has looked very out of form for a long time. 6/4
Gary anderson has previous for messing up in opening rounds and could be tilted after losing the final to mensur. North 8/1 Interested in handicaps of bunting vs wright Like Cullen too Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 19, 2017, 11:37:59 PM I think Robert Thornton is very big odds vs Kim Huybrechts who has looked very out of form for a long time. 6/4 Gary anderson has previous for messing up in opening rounds and could be tilted after losing the final to mensur. North 8/1 Interested in handicaps of bunting vs wright Like Cullen too Richard North been causing a few stirs this year on the Pro Tour and had a couple of tidy performances on the Euro Tour, very confident chap with a good style, would defo look for a handicap bet there I think anything 5/4+ +2.5 sets would be a great spot. I think he's a little shaky and inexperienced with set play though which I think would dissuade me from going for the outright. Thornton/Huybrechts is an interesting one... Thorn only made it in because Taylor pulled out, he's been terrible all year, just looks like he's given up...But I love the idea of opposing "streaky/flow" players like Kim Huybrechts in this tournament, the double start can throw major spanners in the work so picking spots to back players who are experienced and solid doublers with a big favourite double (I think this is why Thornton has a great record here - steady player who is/was brilliant at D20) guys like Mensur, Mervyn King, Ian White, etc over people like Chizzy, Micheal Smith and Huybrechts... Agree I think Cullen is ready to go, the 1 month break doesn't seem to have done Darren Webster any good and he's a guy who's doubles have improved hugely this year. Can't bet him at 33s because he's got a nasty draw but will be VERY interesting to see how Rob Cross gets on in this tournament, got a tough run in and he's getting more and more expectation on him every time and this is quite a tricky format + will be interesting to see how he gets on in a set format. There's a few matches that look AMAZING for betting, can't wait to see all the markets!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on September 20, 2017, 12:58:51 AM Thornton defending chunks of prize money as well. Will really start to plummet down the rankings if he doesn't get a deep run soon. That added pressure unlikely to be much help to him. Kim been hopeless for a while now though.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 20, 2017, 07:57:52 AM I think he's done the Thorn :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sparkles on September 20, 2017, 11:49:52 AM Can back gurney vs Lewis both at 11/10. Tough one to call isn't it?
Bunting 10/3 vs wright should hopefully make for a good handicap, wright been terrible Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on September 20, 2017, 11:58:51 AM I think he's done the Thorn :( Thornton has known for months this week is the beginning of the end for him. He will have zero motivation imo. He knows he can't possibly get close to defending these points. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on September 20, 2017, 12:00:52 PM Why is Taylor not playing in Ireland?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on September 20, 2017, 02:07:43 PM Isnt he just gradually slowing it down before he retires?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 20, 2017, 03:36:13 PM Can back gurney vs Lewis both at 11/10. Tough one to call isn't it? Yeh. Well, on form I'd say Gurney was a strong favourite, Lewis though, looked good at the matchplay considering he had a back injury, had thick end of 2 months off, didn't look anything handy in the champions league this weekend gone though, tends to be a bit lazy IDK how much he practised or was able to practise in the off-time, had a new kid too which might have distracted him. The shorter format will help Lewis though with his injury and if he clicks then he'll beat anyone. Smart money at 2.0+ would have to go to Gurney on that one imo. Bunting 10/3 vs wright should hopefully make for a good handicap, wright been terrible I'm surprised Wright has never done better at this event given how steady a finisher he is, his game has really slipped down though since the start of the year when he was just running riot, all the messing about with his darts affected his scoring a lot, that seems to be fixed but I think BIG question marks over his nerve/finishing recently. Very interested like you to see the +1.5 sets market for this one as you'd really fancy Bunting for a set at a 2.0+ price Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sparkles on September 20, 2017, 04:39:40 PM West consistently averages in the 90s and is 15/8 vs wade who averages the same and is on the slide
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 20, 2017, 11:15:29 PM West consistently averages in the 90s and is 15/8 vs wade who averages the same and is on the slide I hope they dont figure that out. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sparkles on September 21, 2017, 11:12:59 AM https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/european-tour/international-darts-open-2017/winner
Starts tomorrow, before looking at the draw, wanted to oppose Peter wright. Suljovic has an amazing draw and an easy route to the final 10/1 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on September 21, 2017, 01:12:56 PM Let down spot after last week? Couldn't have handpicked a better draw though. That half is very weak.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sparkles on September 22, 2017, 02:32:00 PM Ted evetts 6/5 to beat Ronny huybrechts
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 22, 2017, 02:48:47 PM YEsh it's really set up for Mensur this one, just depends if he shows up or not...
Ted Evetts is an exciting player, very fast. I think Peter Jaques vs VVDV is the pick of the bets tonight at 2.4+ Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 22, 2017, 02:50:00 PM I'm a huge Demetri fan, think he's legit Prem League contender for a couple of years time.
Nice action, got some stones and very hard working Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 22, 2017, 03:17:17 PM Hey Sparkles,
Welcome to the forum btw - nice to see a new darts enthusiast on board - whats your story??? Love talking about darts :) David Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 22, 2017, 05:10:36 PM Peter Jaques vs VVDV 6/4 or +1.5 5/6 looks good to me, PJ been having a brilliant year and beaten almost everyone, VVDV been coming back to form but he's all about the flow and all it takes is a tweak on the back or something to knock him off and he's gone, PJ exactly the kind of guy who'll do a number on VVDV imo, I'd even look at - leg handicaps for PJ if you really wanna gamble.
Micheal Plooy has throw some impressive performances in this year despite not getting that many great results, Keegan Brown shows a lot of promise and scores well in general but too much lack of focus means he often loses games he should win, Plooy outright is good at 6/4, I'd steer clear of the handicap though because I think Plooy could very easily get nailed if KB turns it on. Dennis Nillson playing Steve Beaton has been ripping it up in the Scandi tour this year, Beaton been on razor form last few months however I think he might just find himself in a game here, might look at +1.5 DN at 6/4 or maybe small on the outright. Wouldn't rush to be involved in this one though Jerry Hendricks has been looking much improved lately and I think Kyle Anderson has gone somewhat off the boil since his two wins, Hendricks +2.5 @ 11/10 looks very good to me. Those would be my picks for tonight. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sparkles on September 22, 2017, 07:03:54 PM Hey Sparkles, Welcome to the forum btw - nice to see a new darts enthusiast on board - whats your story??? Love talking about darts :) David I'm Phil taylor Unlucky on plooy, threw away a few opportunitites Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sparkles on September 22, 2017, 07:53:03 PM Useless evetts
Was averaging 104 and 3-0 down to Ronny huybrechts Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: sparkles on September 22, 2017, 08:44:14 PM Nice dave
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 22, 2017, 10:16:43 PM Hey Sparkles, Welcome to the forum btw - nice to see a new darts enthusiast on board - whats your story??? Love talking about darts :) David I'm Phil taylor Unlucky on plooy, threw away a few opportunitites why the hell you not playing the grand price! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 23, 2017, 04:11:04 PM some showing cullen!
that was a great days darts! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on September 24, 2017, 04:27:12 PM Somthe quarter of death with Gurney, Chisnall, Cross and Smith ends up with Big Ron v Nilsson in the QF. How did that happen?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 25, 2017, 09:22:21 AM amazing the euro tour!
Peter Wright is so lucky but you gotta give hi some credit, just doing enough every time Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on September 25, 2017, 11:35:25 AM I'd like the Euro Tours even more if I could stop getting outright pokes chinned in the semis.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on September 29, 2017, 06:07:03 PM Another tourny win for Rob Cross today, 6 straight legs to beat Wright 6-2 in the final.
Boy got game, very impressive. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 01, 2017, 08:26:44 AM Another tourny win for Rob Cross today, 6 straight legs to beat Wright 6-2 in the final. Boy got game, very impressive. Did you watch the stream? Did you see if PW was using the old, thinner darts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 01, 2017, 12:37:37 PM Grand Prix toddddddddddday!
So excited :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 01, 2017, 06:45:47 PM I'm going in on Suljovic at 20/1+
Double start format suits his game and on the other side of the draw to Mensur. Like Thornton tonight at 13/8 as well. Punters readyyyyyyyyy Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 01, 2017, 08:46:58 PM oh no Hutch!!! this never happens to us but I'm close to max bet opposing the thorn tonight :S
May the best man win! I like the U180s in that game, and Huybrechts most 180s at +2.05~ Lewis Gurney, Chizzy Jelle, Barny Kyle - some very interesting lineups! 7/2 for big Hendo to win a set too - can it be done !! :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 01, 2017, 08:53:38 PM Cullen dug himself out the hole and saved my wheelbarrow from an early puncture there!
What a game, this format is awesome for the sweats! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 01, 2017, 09:04:06 PM Glad I left Cross alone. I thought Beaton was a tough draw for him in his first experience of the double in format on TV
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 01, 2017, 09:37:14 PM Yeah tough to get involved on Cross at 1.5 really vs someone very experienced and in some good form.
Kim kinda showed there the difference between him and the very top guys, soon as he missed those 3 darts at DBL 6 to go (1)1-0 in the second he just fell to pieces. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 01, 2017, 11:33:34 PM BIG HENDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 01, 2017, 11:47:25 PM the mensur bet just gained a lot of equity!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 02, 2017, 12:57:29 AM This has just gotten very, very exciting :)
Barney must think the waves have parted for him, the form book said his path the semis was going to be K.Anderson, Rob Cross, MVG...now it's gonna be K.Anderson, Steve Beaton, Alan Norris/Big Hendo - Chizzy, Cullen, Gurney who I think we can agree were the most impressive 3 today, he'll only have to play 1 of them. Chizzy is currently #7 and £50k behind Adrian Lewis #4 who has £200k to defend between now and the Worlds and £10k behind Mensur in #6 with a tougher draw, he'll be looking at this and see it's a real chance to chase down world #4 by the end of the year, with Garry defending £300k at Xmas. Big chance for Chizzy, by exactly the same logic, Mensur could be making a run at the top 4 (or even 3.) Michel Smith had a pretty average year, some brilliant moments but mostly just disappointing. He's #11 £50k away from the top 6 and £40k ahead of #16, Jelle #10 already out, Wade #9 tough draw and bang out of form, Gurney #12 has a tough draw, Kim #13 already out, if he wants to make his move back and push for top 6, with Phil retiring and Lewis almost gtd to drop a ton of money, even though his draw is full of tricky players, he'll be favourite against any of them and I think this is kind of a MUST-SEMI FINAL event for Smith. At the same time, Whitlock (#16 £258k) and Benito (#14 £265k) are in the same 1/4 surrounded in the draw by people near them in the rankings will have a great chance to try and push towards the top 10. Tough to call as the 3 best performances today, Cullen, Gurney, Chizzy are all in the same quarter, I'm gonna give chizzy the nod to take that quarter as he gets the easier 2nd round game, you just HAVE to fancy Barny for the top 1/4 so I say... Barny vs Chizzy (semi final 1) It's all very interesting! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 02, 2017, 01:04:50 AM expanding on one note on the rankings...
Lewis, has over £200k (Players final £35k, Euro semis £17.5k, World finals £150k) to defend this year and only has the Grand Slam, the Players finals the worlds to make any serious money, if he only cashes for £100k in that period he'll drop to £300k in ranking money which as of today would have him outside the top 10... The players championships he's seeded #25 and that pro tour rankings is so competitive he's almost guarenteed a bad draw, the grand slam is a bit hit and miss and the short format and group stages don't really suit him, the worlds usually makes it pretty straightforward for the top seeds to reach the 3rd round but if he gets a bad draw in the grand slam and cant get it going in the worlds or the players....tough to see where even £100k is gonna come from, if he only cahses for £75k that would put him today in at #14 and anything less than £60k in that period and he's out of the top 16. This is before we account for the players around the bottom of that top 16 moving up. He's in big trouble, I think he's a huge dog to be in the top 12 by the end of the season and I think the chance of dropping out of the top 16 is very, very real. The guys #20-#10 are all playing week in week out darts and are defending so much less prize money Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 02, 2017, 01:18:46 AM Incredible scenes!!!
Very happy with my Mensur ticket now. Barney is loving life and the tourney is wideeeeeeeeeee open. Made a nice few quid on night one and can't wait until tomorrow. Love the darts! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 02, 2017, 09:49:14 AM This has just gotten very, very exciting :) Barney must think the waves have parted for him, the form book said his path the semis was going to be K.Anderson, Rob Cross, MVG...now it's gonna be K.Anderson, Steve Beaton, Alan Norris/Big Hendo - Chizzy, Cullen, Gurney who I think we can agree were the most impressive 3 today, he'll only have to play 1 of them. Chizzy is currently #7 and £50k behind Adrian Lewis #4 who has £200k to defend between now and the Worlds and £10k behind Mensur in #6 with a tougher draw, he'll be looking at this and see it's a real chance to chase down world #4 by the end of the year, with Garry defending £300k at Xmas. Big chance for Chizzy, by exactly the same logic, Mensur could be making a run at the top 4 (or even 3.) Michel Smith had a pretty average year, some brilliant moments but mostly just disappointing. He's #11 £50k away from the top 6 and £40k ahead of #16, Jelle #10 already out, Wade #9 tough draw and bang out of form, Gurney #12 has a tough draw, Kim #13 already out, if he wants to make his move back and push for top 6, with Phil retiring and Lewis almost gtd to drop a ton of money, even though his draw is full of tricky players, he'll be favourite against any of them and I think this is kind of a MUST-SEMI FINAL event for Smith. At the same time, Whitlock (#16 £258k) and Benito (#14 £265k) are in the same 1/4 surrounded in the draw by people near them in the rankings will have a great chance to try and push towards the top 10. Tough to call as the 3 best performances today, Cullen, Gurney, Chizzy are all in the same quarter, I'm gonna give chizzy the nod to take that quarter as he gets the easier 2nd round game, you just HAVE to fancy Barny for the top 1/4 so I say... Barny vs Chizzy (semi final 1) It's all very interesting! Fascinating read Dave. Was really impressed with Cullen today - looked calm, relaxed when things weren't going his way. Has he finally sorted his TV demons out? Interestingly, I also make Chizzy favourite for the 1/4 but think the winner of the Gurney/Cullen game will beat him - does that make sense? He performed way above his normal doubling stats last night and can't see him maintaining it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 02, 2017, 10:02:10 AM I think it's really hard to not root for chizzy, when he talks you wonder how he ever gets himself dressed in the morning but he wears his heart on his sleeve and his 180 powers make him so entertaining.
If he has a season where he goes 40% on doubles and fixes the big stage snatch where he loses his rhythm and starts hitting all the 1s & 5s then he'll threaten in every major. Like you say if he keeps a 50% in 40% out stats for the tournament then he's gonna take some stopping!!! Can he do it though? Hmmm. Seems unlikely in all honestly, he's never really done anything to show us that he's capable of maintaining his A game throughout an entire tournament. No Phil, Garry, MVG though... Go on chizzy!!!!!!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 02, 2017, 11:08:55 AM Chizzy spotted recently in a dingy Blackpool 'casino' pissed out his little mind and unable to count chips.
Lol - how does he get through the day? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 02, 2017, 01:37:12 PM Chizzy spotted recently in a dingy Blackpool 'casino' pissed out his little mind and unable to count chips. Lol - how does he get through the day? Surprised he didn't go to one of the non-dingy ones.... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on October 02, 2017, 02:00:01 PM We all know Suljovic loves the D14
Will leave it at every opportunity right? Just wondering peoples thoughts on D14 to be winning double at 12/1 with coral. As low as 4/1 elsewhere (sportingbet) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 02, 2017, 06:22:00 PM cant be bad ^^^^ !!!
Another potential spot is the Kist/Whitlock game, D18 14/1 and D9 25/1 - both these two leave D18 quite a bit Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 02, 2017, 06:33:54 PM My 'value' picks for tonight.....
Reyes ( VdP been garbage recently) at evens West at 13/8 ( Wade just woeful) the year after he beat Taylor in rd1. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 02, 2017, 06:57:05 PM Chizzy spotted recently in a dingy Blackpool 'casino' pissed out his little mind and unable to count chips. Lol - how does he get through the day? Surprised he didn't go to one of the non-dingy ones.... lol. Well played! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 02, 2017, 07:50:20 PM Reyes........ FFS
Send more money lads. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 02, 2017, 09:03:34 PM Back in business. How was Wade priced up as favourite there? He is finished.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 02, 2017, 09:49:51 PM Yes that was a full wheelbarrow job there, shame on you if you didn't fill it :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 03, 2017, 12:18:36 AM Say this a lot, but Peter Wright is the luckiest player in darts by a million miles.
This year has been outrageous run good. Tilts me. Bunting Hcap came in though, wii Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 03, 2017, 09:36:17 AM So I back Kist, White and Bunting. All 3 go a set up (two of them against the throw), all 3 throw for the match (2 of them have match darts), all 3 lose. Send more money please.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 03, 2017, 09:54:41 AM Yeh the bunting game was fuming
Was on Wright 180s - that last Bunting 180 to leave 42 iced it, then he doesn't even win the match - what a knob. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 03, 2017, 05:48:31 PM Yes that was a full wheelbarrow job there, shame on you if you didn't fill it :) Hutchbarrow was suitably quenched from Steve West. Mensur gave me a sweat FFS. Fully agree on Wright - he seems to wriggle constantly and he has a dream situation with all the big guns out. Would love to see Mensur beat him in the 1/4s :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 03, 2017, 08:10:45 PM That’s why Chizzy will never win anything. Where has Thornton found this form though? He has barely had a 90+ Ave all year in conventional 501 now he is hitting one with double start.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 03, 2017, 08:49:12 PM Thornton last previous winner still in.
Had a small bet on him tonight - what a game! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 03, 2017, 09:06:04 PM Yeah Chizzy, *facepalm"
That last game was soooooooo close to being a brilliant game, just missed the mark by a tiny bit. Daryl Gurney kinda brilliant actually, he looks ready to win, might be his time... If he doubles in like that every game then he'll almost certainly win the thing! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 03, 2017, 09:08:56 PM Yeah Chizzy, *facepalm" That last game was soooooooo close to being a brilliant game, just missed the mark by a tiny bit. Daryl Gurney kinda brilliant actually, he looks ready to win, might be his time... If he doubles in like that every game then he'll almost certainly win the thing! That 127 finish was absolute class. Loved how Cullen tried to style it out even though it clearly broke him. Great performance from Gurney - make him strong favourite to reach the final from his half ( where he'll obv lose to a triumphant Mensur!) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on October 03, 2017, 09:53:36 PM Do the big winners of a darts tournemnt sort out a few quid for the callers and markers out of their winnings?
Like tournament poker players tipping the dealers and floor staff when they cop a tournament. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 03, 2017, 10:38:55 PM Yeah Chizzy, *facepalm" That last game was soooooooo close to being a brilliant game, just missed the mark by a tiny bit. Daryl Gurney kinda brilliant actually, he looks ready to win, might be his time... If he doubles in like that every game then he'll almost certainly win the thing! He’s getting closer. He was always very flaky under pressure but has massively improved in that regard. Definitely has the game to win given how the draw has opened up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 03, 2017, 11:39:50 PM That was a real blunder from chizzy, this tournament could have had him shooting at world #3/4. Now he might fall into the chasing pack.
Gurney getting anywhere near the final and he's a straight 1.01 for the PL surely. Mvg, pw, Garry, Lewis, chizzy, barny, Gurney, mensur 2 spots left. 4 majors to go.... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 04, 2017, 08:15:09 AM Do the big winners of a darts tournemnt sort out a few quid for the callers and markers out of their winnings? Like tournament poker players tipping the dealers and floor staff when they cop a tournament. Not sure. Interesting, I guess a little different because it will all be wires/cheques? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 04, 2017, 01:47:37 PM Imagine if Thorn defended all his money in this crazy donkfest of an event!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 04, 2017, 04:19:55 PM Imagine if Thorn defended all his money in this crazy donkfest of an event! Lol not only would it keep him on top 32 he would prob get a PL spot as well. He went in to 2015 event in no form at all too. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 04, 2017, 05:17:28 PM King looks a bet to me tonight at 7/2 v Snakebite. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 04, 2017, 05:24:39 PM King looks a bet to me tonight at 7/2 v Snakebite. Any thoughts? I think +1.5 at 6/4 is better. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 05, 2017, 03:52:49 PM Tonight's the night for my Mensur bet.
Hope Snakey changes his darts three times before the match! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 05, 2017, 06:41:35 PM Any love for Big John at 7/2 or 6/4 + 1.5 tonight?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 05, 2017, 08:58:32 PM Pass me my biggest wheelbarrow.
Big John..... Now come on Mensur! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 05, 2017, 09:47:39 PM that was a great pick with big john, I had lots of marginal opportunities in that game and ended up refusing all of them in the end :(
Tried my hardest to bet on Benito but couldn't!!! On board your mensur train here, I think this is the night the Thorn resurgence ends, also think U8.5 if you can get on @ 1.91+ is good there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 05, 2017, 10:35:23 PM Mensurrrrrrrrr
Might need to invest in some more wheelbarrows here. Love the darts lads. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 05, 2017, 11:43:00 PM OI OI OI !
What a tournament. Gurney was massively unimpressive for me there, Thorn gave him chance after chance after chance and he is very lucky that a) the thorn totally lost his head in the last 4 legs, and b) he had the throw. A lot of his darts were going very steep below the treble twenty which means he wasn;t throwing them hard enough, most likely due to tension. So many very sloppy darts, looked very out of focus. Big Hendo might just do this! He's not really been the most impressive set of performances but he's just got the job done every time when the guy he's playing has fucked about, Gurney will be a huge fave for this game so Big Hendo might be exactly the worst opponent for him! Mensur will be licking his lips from here. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 05, 2017, 11:48:58 PM I like Big John’s chances against Gurney. He was far too pumped up for that and was emotionally shot to pieces at the end and that was only the QF. Henderson has had the knack of hitting the right shot at the right time and I can see him getting the job done if Gurney turns up like that tomorrow. Hard to see how Mensur doesn’t win this on the bridle from this spot. Must be the weakest last 4 in a TV tournament in a long long time.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 06, 2017, 08:46:44 AM Chizzy & Barny... What the fuck did you guys do...
Thing is, all big hendo has done is turn up and throw a decent set of darts, give the game in front of him full respect and not got too carried away trying to win the thing in the 1/4s. I would love it MASSSSSSSSSSSIVE if big john shipped the whole thing. Mensur got it though Hutch Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 06, 2017, 09:13:29 AM If Big Hendo ships this tourney hes got to have a shout at Premier League as well as being guaranteed a front cover slot on Men's Health magazine.
So glad Mensur seems to have sped up his game. He used to be awful to watch when he'd take 20 seconds before his third dart. He doesn't seem to do this now and has actually become a better player for it. Wonder if Sky had a word with him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 06, 2017, 10:00:50 AM Big hendo for the PL
Might start a twitter campaign! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on October 06, 2017, 10:34:11 AM If Big Hendo ships this tourney hes got to have a shout at Premier League as well as being guaranteed a front cover slot on Men's Health magazine. So glad Mensur seems to have sped up his game. He used to be awful to watch when he'd take 20 seconds before his third dart. He doesn't seem to do this now and has actually become a better player for it. Wonder if Sky had a word with him. It's fine so long as he's scoring well. He used to be slow and averaging 85 in tv games. That was the killer. Slow and good is fine. Reminds me of Dennis Priestley. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 06, 2017, 10:44:22 AM Chizzy & Barny... What the fuck did you guys do... Thing is, all big hendo has done is turn up and throw a decent set of darts, give the game in front of him full respect and not got too carried away trying to win the thing in the 1/4s. I would love it MASSSSSSSSSSSIVE if big john shipped the whole thing. Mensur got it though Hutch Yeah he hasn’t shot any lights out. He has put in the odd big leg when needed but as he pretty much said last night his opponents have gifted it to him by not getting off. The big lad might struggle with the heat over the longer format though. If he was to win he would have outside claims at a PL spot I guess. Has a major winner ever not got in? I can’t think of any. I remember Painter getting in from nowhere after winning the Players a few years back. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 06, 2017, 10:51:11 AM Outside MVG Taylor Lewis Wade RVB and Snakey i genuinly can't remember the last person to win a sky event?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 06, 2017, 10:51:52 AM Outside MVG Taylor Lewis Wade RVB and Snakey i genuinly can't remember the last person to win a sky event? Actualy, Thornton 2 years ago and snakey never actually won one Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on October 06, 2017, 07:36:24 PM Don't mind backing Mensa from a set down after his previous slow starts. And let's big Hendo later on.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on October 07, 2017, 12:42:58 AM Outside MVG Taylor Lewis Wade RVB and Snakey i genuinly can't remember the last person to win a sky event? Actualy, Thornton 2 years ago and snakey never actually won one Scott Waites winning the Grand Slam in 2010 and before that John Part at the 2008 worlds! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on October 07, 2017, 12:49:36 AM Do the big winners of a darts tournemnt sort out a few quid for the callers and markers out of their winnings? Like tournament poker players tipping the dealers and floor staff when they cop a tournament. I'd assume that they don't It appears to be the same small team of callers and markers for all of the stage events whether its Minehead or Dubai so they must be on reasonable money? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on October 07, 2017, 01:15:23 AM Outside MVG Taylor Lewis Wade RVB and Snakey i genuinly can't remember the last person to win a sky event? Actualy, Thornton 2 years ago and snakey never actually won one Scott Waites winning the Grand Slam in 2010 and before that John Part at the 2008 worlds! Waites in 2010 wasn't on Sky either so Part in 2008 vs Kirk Shepherd Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: OverTheBorder on October 07, 2017, 09:30:08 AM Outside MVG Taylor Lewis Wade RVB and Snakey i genuinly can't remember the last person to win a sky event? Actualy, Thornton 2 years ago and snakey never actually won one Scott Waites winning the Grand Slam in 2010 and before that John Part at the 2008 worlds! Waites in 2010 wasn't on Sky either so Part in 2008 vs Kirk Shepherd Anderson..... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 07, 2017, 11:21:02 AM think Darts in changing
Before, as a to player (Lewis, Barny, Taylor, Wade) you'd be almost guarenteed a run to the 1/4s in any major, over half the field just couldn't really beat you. Nowadays though, 10#-30# in the rankings is just packed full of super solid guys, who play week in week out, turn up and don't play well and more often than not you'll get beat. I like it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on October 07, 2017, 12:08:27 PM Outside MVG Taylor Lewis Wade RVB and Snakey i genuinly can't remember the last person to win a sky event? Actualy, Thornton 2 years ago and snakey never actually won one Scott Waites winning the Grand Slam in 2010 and before that John Part at the 2008 worlds! Waites in 2010 wasn't on Sky either so Part in 2008 vs Kirk Shepherd Anderson..... I assumed that Anderson wasn't a deliberate omission from buzz' list Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 07, 2017, 03:37:59 PM think Darts in changing Before, as a to player (Lewis, Barny, Taylor, Wade) you'd be almost guarenteed a run to the 1/4s in any major, over half the field just couldn't really beat you. Nowadays though, 10#-30# in the rankings is just packed full of super solid guys, who play week in week out, turn up and don't play well and more often than not you'll get beat. I like it. Guys like Lewis and Wade are in bother. They aren’t a level above the pack nowadays, that combined with their lazy schedule means they are in real danger of dropping down the rankings quickly as those up and coming are grinding the tour week in week out. They are no longer able to cruise through to QF and SF every major to retain their ranking. If they want to remain top 10 players they are going to have to start working at it. Whitlock just grabbed himself a provisional seat in the PL I think, confirms it if he gets the W. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 07, 2017, 06:30:25 PM Lewis is in big trouble, unless he picks up some form or gets lucky he's basically gtd to be out of the top 10 by the end of the season, and I think his place in the top 16 is under serious threat. He's amazing to watch when he's on form, and he threw a 9 darter last yr but reality is that bad his final he's never done anything in the PL since his UK open win and world final he's done absolutely nothing in any major, he's practically non existent on the pro tour, doesn't play the euros... his guarenteed a PL spot 1 more year but after that I'm not so sure.
Gurney has stepped up and set himself apart from the world #10-#20 this year, guys like Kim Huybrechts, Benito van de Pas, Ian White Micheal Smith etc they hold their top 16 rankings by solid pro-tour work and never really do anything in any majors, means they never have chunky money to defend but at the same time without a big chunky cash in a major you'll never really break the world top #6. The pack thats chasing those spots now though is crazy competitive, Lewis/Wade (and Garry to a certain extent) hold the rankings above them based on major performances and benefit from easier draws as a result...but when those guys lose that privilege and sick back into that pack they are going to find themselves with a hell of a task to get it back. Jelle Klaasen another one who needs to cash for £80k between now and the worlds to hold his current rank, he could find himself slipping out of the top 16 too - can't see a PL place for him this year on current form, and with RvB and MvG they dont need any more dutchmen! Whitlock had a sick start to the year winning a couple of UKO quals and did well on the pro tour, would think if he was to win he'd be a lock for a PL spot an would be relatively well deserved. Gurney is nailed on for a PL spot now I'm sure - he might even have a good chance of an auto world top 4 spot!!! Goes #6 if he wins this , high confidence and good form with no money to defend really between, with PT not playing either. Think it's very very unlikely Corey Cadby gets a PL spot when he doesn't even have a tour card yet. Think it would be kind of absurd to give someone who isn't on the tour a spot... Kim has been poor in all TV events this year (whipped in the PL, dissapointing in the UK/MP/GP unless he throws a final in somewhere he should be out on merit. However in a year where the competition between people thoroughly deserving seems a little thinner and his appeal to Belgium audience I can see him possibly clinging on. Mvg/Wright/Garry/Lewis/Chizzy/RvB/Gurney/Mensur (if he accepts) are 100% imo. Door is wide open for anyone who can step up net 12 weeks and step through it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 07, 2017, 07:35:45 PM it will be interesting to see how Jackpot reacts if he was to dip outside the top 16. He’s been so used to playing a light schedule for so long it will be tough to go back to the grind. He either does that though or he could find himself sliding down the rankings very quickly. No PL, no WS invites etc. His income will drop off a cliff unless he does some hard work.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Matt50 on October 07, 2017, 09:14:12 PM Daryl Gurney is acting like a total cock in this final!
Strutting around like the world owes him a favour then barging into Whitlock for no reason! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on October 07, 2017, 11:02:16 PM I never realised he was such a bellend.
It's not even natural, it's so fake. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on October 08, 2017, 01:35:53 PM Decent headline on this story.
https://www.balls.ie/other-sports/daryl-gurney-simon-whitlock-grand-prix-final-incident-375292 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on October 08, 2017, 01:54:02 PM Decent headline on this story. https://www.balls.ie/other-sports/daryl-gurney-simon-whitlock-grand-prix-final-incident-375292 haha brilliant, ty Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Matt50 on October 08, 2017, 02:45:24 PM He's just made himself more of an idiot there.
He clearly made contact with Whitlock and if he didn't mean to would have apologised straight away. And he didn't take his time because the crowd were booing, it was the other way round. The longer he waited and messed about the more he was booed. I hope the crowd reality get on the petulant twats back at the worlds, and MVG or Gary give him a pasting. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 09, 2017, 10:45:17 AM I mean when you're an Irish man in Ireland and the crowd is cheering for the Aussie....something gone wrong.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 09, 2017, 02:59:29 PM Max Hopp luckboxes a World Series Finals invite for no reason other than being German.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on October 09, 2017, 05:21:22 PM Max Hopp luckboxes a World Series Finals invite for no reason other than being German. Would a little run of form get him into PL contention, seeing as there's a stop in Germany this year? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 09, 2017, 06:35:30 PM I'd personally have thought Martin Schindler would have a much better chance as hes had a pretty good year.
Hopp been very disappointing on the pro tour, almost certain not to make euro finals, might scrape in the players, almost defo wont be at the grand slam so really there's not many chances for Max to have a run of form. I would think though that they wouldn't need too much excuse to stick one of the Germans in! Problem is though they will both get bashed up most weeks in this field. Germans go mental for Suljovic as he speaks german and they absolutely LOVE Peter Wright so I don't think there's too much worry about keeping German fans happy :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 09, 2017, 09:44:35 PM Max Hopp luckboxes a World Series Finals invite for no reason other than being German. Would a little run of form get him into PL contention, seeing as there's a stop in Germany this year? Yes without a doubt. They would love to get him in there. The problem with that is he isn’t very good. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on October 09, 2017, 11:53:33 PM Hopp is on course to only get into the worlds on an invite
From wiki: Quote The field will consist of 72 players, 16 players into the preliminary round and 56 players straight into the first round. There has been a change to the qualifying criteria from recent editions of the tournament. Previously, the top four non-qualified European players from the Pro Tour Order of Merit would gain places at the championships; now the four places go to invites at the PDC's discretion. He'll have to cash for over £10k in the the two remaining pro tour events to get in on prize money by my maths. Only £22k cashes so far this year! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 10, 2017, 10:11:09 AM Darts becoming so big in Germany now only a matter of time until they get a sicko imo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 10, 2017, 11:43:17 AM Hopp is on course to only get into the worlds on an invite From wiki: Quote The field will consist of 72 players, 16 players into the preliminary round and 56 players straight into the first round. There has been a change to the qualifying criteria from recent editions of the tournament. Previously, the top four non-qualified European players from the Pro Tour Order of Merit would gain places at the championships; now the four places go to invites at the PDC's discretion. He'll have to cash for over £10k in the the two remaining pro tour events to get in on prize money by my maths. Only £22k cashes so far this year! Changing the criteria is a joke. Hopp obv a lock to get one despite being hopeless all year. With the extensive European Tour now there’s no reason for it not to be done on merit. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on October 10, 2017, 12:32:29 PM PL tickets for Dublin sorted :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 10, 2017, 01:29:04 PM Hopp is on course to only get into the worlds on an invite From wiki: Quote The field will consist of 72 players, 16 players into the preliminary round and 56 players straight into the first round. There has been a change to the qualifying criteria from recent editions of the tournament. Previously, the top four non-qualified European players from the Pro Tour Order of Merit would gain places at the championships; now the four places go to invites at the PDC's discretion. He'll have to cash for over £10k in the the two remaining pro tour events to get in on prize money by my maths. Only £22k cashes so far this year! Changing the criteria is a joke. Hopp obv a lock to get one despite being hopeless all year. With the extensive European Tour now there’s no reason for it not to be done on merit. Agree 100% The pro tour is absolutely brutal, you in the top 16 in that you're doing something right - there's guys in the top 16 who done nothing majors but hold their rankings based on good showings in the pro tour (Ian White, Kim Huybrechts etc) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 10, 2017, 05:34:27 PM Rob Cross bosses another Pro Tour event. When he gets used to the big stage he will be an animal.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 10, 2017, 05:38:29 PM Rob Cross bosses another Pro Tour event. When he gets used to the big stage he will be an animal. Bazza what you think about him in the PL? You think him getting in 2018 could fuck his confidence up if he gets bashed about for 16 weeks? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 10, 2017, 06:44:30 PM Rob Cross bosses another Pro Tour event. When he gets used to the big stage he will be an animal. Bazza what you think about him in the PL? You think him getting in 2018 could fuck his confidence up if he gets bashed about for 16 weeks? I’m not sure. He strikes me as being mentally strong. Also I’m not sure the PL will be as scary next year as it once was. Could be as many as 4 debutants. No Taylor and MVG, Anderson, Snakebite, Lewis not at their peaks (obviously that could change between now and the start). I’m still trying to figure out why i’m not on him at huge prices for the Worlds Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 10, 2017, 07:27:52 PM Rob Cross bosses another Pro Tour event. When he gets used to the big stage he will be an animal. Bazza what you think about him in the PL? You think him getting in 2018 could fuck his confidence up if he gets bashed about for 16 weeks? I’m not sure. He strikes me as being mentally strong. Also I’m not sure the PL will be as scary next year as it once was. Could be as many as 4 debutants. No Taylor and MVG, Anderson, Snakebite, Lewis not at their peaks (obviously that could change between now and the start). I’m still trying to figure out why i’m not on him at huge prices for the Worlds Yeh, PW got his shot at the PL and did really well (was leading the table for a bit - actually ended up not making top 4 when he tailed off) but the confidence he got from that really propelled him to what he's ended up doing I think, could see the same thing happen to RC... I think he's a much better player than Stephan Bunting when he got demoralised in the PL and Micheal Smith was a bit young maybe. I got some tiny money on at 125/1 and some more tiny money at 80/1 but he crashed into 66s everywhere pretty early in the year after his second pro tour win and this was before he was even a lock to be in the thing! He's 40-1 all over now and it's too short god dam it because mannnnnnn do I wanna back him big the WC even though he's totally unproven and it's the toughest format. Just fancy it :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 10, 2017, 07:36:25 PM He’s going to top the PC OOM in his debut year. Pretty remarkable.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 11, 2017, 08:14:10 AM I wonder what genuine price Cross is to be ranked higher than Lewis by the end of the year?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 11, 2017, 03:05:47 PM http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/PlayerStats.aspx
This is how much people have made in cashes following the WC's this calendar year.... This is before the big money end of the season too, amazing how much money there is now, even total journeyman guys are good for £60+ bags a year in prize money, lots of exposure now too so sponsorship money will always be there, steady gig. Just goes to show though how valuable the PL and invites to the world series events is. Lewis, Chizzy, Phil, Barney, etc all made much more from there invitational gigs than tour winnings this yr. MVG too actually nearly 2 thirds of his 660k coming from invitational events, I guess he'll feel like it's a pretty bad year all in all...5 wins from 9 (and 2 finals on the euro tour) 3 wins only on the Pro Tour, win in the Masters in Jan but apart from that group stage the champs league, first rounds GP, quarters in the MP... topped the PL, won the PL and 2 world series wins (and a final) along with a world cup win. I guess if he doesn't win the WC he'll consider it a disaster year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 13, 2017, 06:47:38 PM couple of nice games in the Evening session IMO.
Like the look of Aspinal vs Wade, and Richardson vs Demitri Van den Beurgh, Demitri looked great all year but I think 11/10 too much of a price on Richardson here when he been playing great all year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 13, 2017, 08:36:47 PM Nice shouts.
It’s a pity this is the last ET event of the year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 13, 2017, 08:40:32 PM Nice shouts. It’s a pity this is the last ET event of the year. Yeh I love these events. I think I've enjoyed the action in them overall more than the majors, and maybe even the premier league. The £5/mo PDC live is a steal! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 15, 2017, 12:10:18 PM Jonny Clayton been the real deal this week - 13/8 to beat Smith looks big.
I also think Jan Dekker +1.5 vs whitlock who seems a bit iffy since his GP final at 1/1 is nice. Andy Boulton is playing very well, backed him in both previous games, always reasonable to bet against VVDV when he's so relent on that rhythm Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 15, 2017, 04:43:01 PM Jonny Clayton been the real deal this week - 13/8 to beat Smith looks big. I also think Jan Dekker +1.5 vs whitlock who seems a bit iffy since his GP final at 1/1 is nice. Andy Boulton is playing very well, backed him in both previous games, always reasonable to bet against VVDV when he's so relent on that rhythm lucky not to lose all 3 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 15, 2017, 06:06:45 PM Dancing girls at the euros are much fitter than the walk on girls at the Uk majors, IMO :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 16, 2017, 11:01:02 AM Rankings getting more and more interesting as we get to the business end of the year :)
Huge opportunity (one of hundreds this year) for Daryl Gurney coming up at the European Champs as he hunts a top 4 spot down. First thing for him is Phil Taylor and Adrian Lewis aren't even there so they drop £11.5k and £17k respectively and Gurney gtd minimum £5k, so this puts him automatically just £2k behind Phil in 5th and just £7,750 behind Lewis in 4th. a 1/4 final spot puts him world #4, automatically in the PL (not that he needs it i think), and meaning he won't have to play MVG till the semi's at the worlds... A bit of danger behind him though, Mensur Suljovic £27k behind him is defending no money pretty much (£4k). It's quite good news for Mensur too, he'll also make up the same ground on Phil and Lewis, deep run could see him take #4 spot. Chizzy defending £11.5k and only £1200 behind Mensur and the guys behind them (Wade, Barney ) aren't playing. Will be interesting to see how the rankings pressure will affect Mensur, Chizzy and Gurney as they all have vastly different levels of experience and are all kind of fighting different battles. Gurney just on a rush, Mensur trying to catch him and chizzy trying to consolidate his top 8 spot. The bad news here is for Wade and Lewis (we spoke already about Lewis' troubles) Wade is defending only £7k this european champs which doesn't sound like a lot...but he;s only £9k ahead of Jelle in 13th and they are all getting £5k min and defending £7k £7k £11.5k between, all three of them are seeded for this years too and prize money is higher than 2015, Wade is destined to drop out of the top 10 after this tournament and will probably find himself in 12th or 13th. On the other end of the chain, Whitlock and Smith in kind of a shoot-out for the top 10, with Jelle at a ~£5k disadvantage just behind them. Benito Van de Pas has found himself a little stranded in 14th, no money to defend this time, £25k behind 13th and £25k ahead of 15th and 16th, he's not in the Grand Slam either, he's in a sort of precarious spot here the top 13 can run away and he'll fall back and risk his top 16 spot, or he could make a real run at the top 10 as plenty of people above him defending a lot of money. Just doesn't seem to have the form at the moment and I think that he might find himself under some real pressure to hold his top 16 spot come the worlds. Huybrechts and Norris in a cool tussle exactly tied and Kim is going to be £4k behind. Ian White who's been in the top 16 forever has dropped to #17 He only has £30k to defend between now and the end of the worlds so he has a shot to get back up towards the top 10. Gerwyn Price and Joe Cullen chasing but have a lot of ground to make up if they wanna make a top 10 run, I think for those two they just want to post some money on the board and try capitalise on someone falling back. Gonna take some serious moves from anyone #20 or below to make a move on the top 16-10 as there's a fair bit of money between them and most of the guys in the middle there aren't defending too much money. Biggest story i guess, is how far Rob Cross can go, he's seeded out of MVG's half in the Euros, not yet in the grand slam but a chance of qualifying, has the easiest 1/4 in the players and defending £0, can he make it to the top 20? Currently about £50k off, seems do-able... what about top 16 (£120k) apparently Mervyn King's first year in the PDC he went from nothing to world #25. Next year when he's still defending nothing you'd think he's gonna be hunting top 6 down by the close of the year if he keeps it up. Can't wait to see what happens :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on October 16, 2017, 12:05:26 PM Great write up.
Love your passion for the darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 29, 2017, 08:51:02 AM If you haven't been watching so far, I think today is going to be a great day.
MVG vs Whitlock K. Anderson vs Mensur Suljovic Rob Cross vs Micheal Smith Peter Wright vs Daryl Gurney Starts at midday on ITV :) Semis and Final tonight. Euro tour darts is by far my favourite (bar the worlds) and I think FOR SURE they are going to be televised in a few years. Mvg was close to breathtaking in his last game, made Ian White look like he couldn't throw a dart, Whitlock been enjoying the best year he's had a long time and is making a proper cruise for a top 10 spot, his two worst performances of the year have come vs MVG though in semi finals, feels a bit like he really struggles vs him (as does everyone!!) but just can't seem to bring a good performance. Mensur vs Kyle i a really unpredictable game, both players have already proven this year they can win against top players in longer formats, both have been sensational at times and both had some very average performances when we expected better. Mensur seems to have that knack of pinching wins when he probably shouldn't whilst Kyle still has a bit of a habbit of losing games when he shouldn't. Mensur favourite for this reason but its closer than the bookies make it. Cross vs Smith should be amazing, Cross has shown the ability to not play his best and still win, and he's also shown he's able to average 105+ for extended periods of legs. Smith plays with a bit more grit these days and seems much more capable of getting his head stuck in and grafting when its not free-flowing, problem is he's such a momentum player that as soon as things go a little awry he can just be all over the shop for 4-5 legs and from what Rob Cross has shown this year its going to be a big uphill task if you go on holiday for 4-5 legs even in a BO19. I think Cross is a justifiably a big favourite here, he's yet to really prove himself over a long format which is the only big concern... Looks the real deal in every way though. If they both play A game this will be the game of the round. Gurney vs Wright. Peter Wright has really not played that well in the back half of this year, but still managed a Matchplay final, a euro win and a world series win, as well as getting to #2 in the world. Gotta give him credit, plays well or not he really knows how to do a job and he's never out of a game. So much experience now, and very calm when the pressure's on. Gurney a different animal now after the year he's had and throwing that winning double in a major final changes you forever I'm sure, truth is for the last 6 months he's scoring better, finishing better and overall just playing better than PW. Wright has this habbit of starting games very poorly at the moment then digging in and coming firing back, against people like Johny Clayton where he's a little inexperienced on the big stage and always likely to give you a shot at coming back...Daryl Gurney could just go 4-1 up and shut you out. Big test for both players, can PW hold focus for the whole game and can DG consistently beat the best players, which he's going to have to do if he wants to end the year world #4, and chase #3 when Garry is defending £350k at the worlds. I'm on Cross outright so a good sweat :) Can't Wait! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 10:08:15 AM Real chance for Cross to lock up a PL spot today. Final will almost certainly do it I think barring someone pulling up trees in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 29, 2017, 10:12:29 AM Real chance for Cross to lock up a PL spot today. Final will almost certainly do it I think barring someone pulling up trees in the next few weeks. Yeh agree. Smith and Wright or Gurney, not as easy path by any means but hugely doable for him. It's a shame for him that he's going to miss out on the Grand Slam, so one less chance for him. The players he has the easiest draw so today, that and worlds. Gurney and Mensur both in surely, so 2 spots left - Cross and Whitlock favourites? Kyle Anderson, Kim Huybrechts? TBH on merit Lewis should lose his spot but no-one else to take it really Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 10:29:39 AM Real chance for Cross to lock up a PL spot today. Final will almost certainly do it I think barring someone pulling up trees in the next few weeks. Yeh agree. Smith and Wright or Gurney, not as easy path by any means but hugely doable for him. It's a shame for him that he's going to miss out on the Grand Slam, so one less chance for him. The players he has the easiest draw so today, that and worlds. Gurney and Mensur both in surely, so 2 spots left - Cross and Whitlock favourites? Kyle Anderson, Kim Huybrechts? TBH on merit Lewis should lose his spot but no-one else to take it really Chizzy could be under threat as well. Has struggled all year. He should be fine but could be vulnerable to the likes of Kyle making a deep run at the worlds. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 10:34:29 AM Bwin has a market up
Jackpot 3/10 looks huge. No way he doesn’t get a wild card. Barney 1/10 also. MVG, Snakebite and Anderson look as good a 1/100 shots as you will find. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 04:39:11 PM Seriously good performances from Gurney and Cross.
Both semis should be fun if Kyle turns up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 29, 2017, 05:16:13 PM Bwin has a market up Jackpot 3/10 looks huge. No way he doesn’t get a wild card. Barney 1/10 also. MVG, Snakebite and Anderson look as good a 1/100 shots as you will find. Wow some very strange things here. MVG Garry and Wright @ 1.01 is literally buying money, you're basically just betting that they don't die or quit darts (maybe some freak family thing?) I think gurney and 1.03 is just as big a print. Only a big win from mensur will stop him being top 4 and automatically in after the worlds and the most likely person to pip him is Taylor who won't be counted anyway, even if he doesn't make world top 4 i think it's 0% he doesn't get offered it. Interesting that they make Mensur 1.03 too when he refused it last last year? I wouldn't mind a poke at 25/1 that he doesn't make the lineup. Chizzy at 1.4? Seems impossible for him not to be invited really, he's one of the most entertaining and holding his world ranking well, Saying Chizzy is 1.4 and Whitlock is 1.15 seems totoally backward to me. Barney always gets the Sky Wildcard so he's pretty close to 1.01 too, 1.1 is crazy print I think Rob cross is significantly shorter than 1.5 at this point. Lewis doesn't merit a spot but there isn't exactly a queue of people to replace him - Hearn is never giving Ian White, Benito van de Pas, Mervyn King, Darren Webster etc a spot of Adrian Lewis. Jelle doesn't really deserve it and there's no really shortage of dutchmen to support with MVG and RVB. 3/10 Lewis has to be a massive spot. Corey Cadby at 9/4 is a lay till the cows come home unless he wins the grand slam. Huybrechts at 5/2 might be a good one too because of the Belguim leg... I'd make it Mvg Garry Wright Gurney Barney Chizzy Lewis Mansur Cross / Anderson / Whitlock / Huybrechts Cross is becoming more and more of a lock, think you've gotta give one of the Aussies a nod here, small chance Hearn decides that Lewis is out after a terrible year and throws Kim in for the Belguim fans, but giving Kim the nod over either of the Aussies might not look great. Could see Cross take Lewis' spot and both Aussie's in but I think Bary Hearn will likely feel one Aussie is the same as them both here and that Lewis' big name appeal and likelihood to bang a 9-darter in etc, along with 2x WC pedigree is better. Phil Taylor 7/1 - not impossible :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 05:24:37 PM Angry Kim has had an average year and already had two goes at it and been poor both times. Would be ridic if he got another shot. Kyle making a late run for a spot. Think Cross has to be in now, will be a lock if he beats Gurney later.
Cadby needs to retain the World Youth title or he won’t be at the worlds as he bombed in the Oceanic Masters. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 29, 2017, 05:29:36 PM Would be absurd if Cadby got in before he even had a pro tour card. Kind of makes a mockery of it all, guys like Benito, White, King, Beaton all deserve one 50x more and they are pretty much 0%.
Think it would be very obvious to put Kim in, Barry wants players to at least think that playing well and doing well on TV will get you a go not just being the right nationality! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 07:40:29 PM 9 darter from Kyle. Giving MVG a real test here.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 29, 2017, 08:15:53 PM Oh Kyle :(
Gotta hit that double. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 08:18:51 PM Ouch. Chance of a major title and a PL place in his hands there. Great performance from him though.
GSOD spot as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 08:49:29 PM Cross about to take Jackpot’s GSOD place
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 29, 2017, 10:34:48 PM Thats a massive swing for Lewis, with another £200k to defend between now and the worlds he only has the players and the WC to do it. The players is so gruelling and short format, don't fancy his chances there on this years form.
With so many good players about, and his form being so poor, you don't really fancy him at the WC either, although it's his best format and on a stage he absolutely loves, if he's going to pull it out anywhere it'll be there. I think realistically he needs to semi final the worlds to hold on to his top 10 order of merit spot. Cross made a great effort there, he had 2 small chances to push away around the 4-5 5-5 mark and didn't take it, MVG got his nose in front and averaged 109, knows how to close these things out as well as anyone, so RC didn't have a chance from that point. 1/2 to get a PL spot looks like a spot to take all £11.87 bwin will likely lay you! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on October 29, 2017, 11:36:16 PM Bwin has a market up Jackpot 3/10 looks huge. No way he doesn’t get a wild card. Barney 1/10 also. MVG, Snakebite and Anderson look as good a 1/100 shots as you will find. Wow some very strange things here. MVG Garry and Wright @ 1.01 is literally buying money, you're basically just betting that they don't die or quit darts (maybe some freak family thing?) I think gurney and 1.03 is just as big a print. Only a big win from mensur will stop him being top 4 and automatically in after the worlds and the most likely person to pip him is Taylor who won't be counted anyway, even if he doesn't make world top 4 i think it's 0% he doesn't get offered it. Interesting that they make Mensur 1.03 too when he refused it last last year? I wouldn't mind a poke at 25/1 that he doesn't make the lineup. Chizzy at 1.4? Seems impossible for him not to be invited really, he's one of the most entertaining and holding his world ranking well, Saying Chizzy is 1.4 and Whitlock is 1.15 seems totoally backward to me. Barney always gets the Sky Wildcard so he's pretty close to 1.01 too, 1.1 is crazy print I think Rob cross is significantly shorter than 1.5 at this point. Lewis doesn't merit a spot but there isn't exactly a queue of people to replace him - Hearn is never giving Ian White, Benito van de Pas, Mervyn King, Darren Webster etc a spot of Adrian Lewis. Jelle doesn't really deserve it and there's no really shortage of dutchmen to support with MVG and RVB. 3/10 Lewis has to be a massive spot. Corey Cadby at 9/4 is a lay till the cows come home unless he wins the grand slam. Huybrechts at 5/2 might be a good one too because of the Belguim leg... I'd make it Mvg Garry Wright Gurney Barney Chizzy Lewis Mansur Cross / Anderson / Whitlock / Huybrechts Cross is becoming more and more of a lock, think you've gotta give one of the Aussies a nod here, small chance Hearn decides that Lewis is out after a terrible year and throws Kim in for the Belguim fans, but giving Kim the nod over either of the Aussies might not look great. Could see Cross take Lewis' spot and both Aussie's in but I think Bary Hearn will likely feel one Aussie is the same as them both here and that Lewis' big name appeal and likelihood to bang a 9-darter in etc, along with 2x WC pedigree is better. Phil Taylor 7/1 - not impossible :) 7/1 Taylor is massive. Didn't he say he was giving up the tour? The Premier League is just a glorified series of exhibitions. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he plays. I wouldn't lay evens. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 29, 2017, 11:51:12 PM Thats a massive swing for Lewis, with another £200k to defend between now and the worlds he only has the players and the WC to do it. The players is so gruelling and short format, don't fancy his chances there on this years form. With so many good players about, and his form being so poor, you don't really fancy him at the WC either, although it's his best format and on a stage he absolutely loves, if he's going to pull it out anywhere it'll be there. I think realistically he needs to semi final the worlds to hold on to his top 10 order of merit spot. Cross made a great effort there, he had 2 small chances to push away around the 4-5 5-5 mark and didn't take it, MVG got his nose in front and averaged 109, knows how to close these things out as well as anyone, so RC didn't have a chance from that point. 1/2 to get a PL spot looks like a spot to take all £11.87 bwin will likely lay you! I think Cross is as good as there now. He just needed a deep TV run to consolidate floor form which he has done. The fact he didn’t buckle when there will help his cause too. I really think Chizzy is under big pressure to put in a deep run somewhere or he will be out. I think Whitlock will get the nod ahead of him (not saying I agree with that but I think it will happen). That then leaves him fighting it out for the last spot with the likes of Kyle. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 30, 2017, 08:35:10 AM Yeah - you're absolutely right.
I guess Lewis is relying solely on a Sky pick - Sky picks last 4 years have been Taylor/Barney, Chizzy/Barney, Bunting/Barney, Anderson/Barney so if Lewis misses out on a PDC spot (which you have to imagine he will) then I reckon he'll pick his spot up through sky. So the big danger for Chizzy is that he's gonna miss out on the 4th PDC spot... Mensur, Cross, Whitlock, Anderson looks like the best 4 on merit at the moment, seems very difficult to justify giving chizzy a spot over Kyle or Whitlock. Chizzy not dead in the water though, he's so entertaining and his 180 hitting is amazing for crowd morale, deep run at the players or the worlds he'll probably pip one of the Aussies on reputation. Chance Mensur refuses again in which case it's kind of tough to imagine who else they could go for, or maybe Lewis wins the players or semi's the worlds and he might get a PDC spot in which case Chizzy will likely get the nod from Sky. Then of course, sky are 100% offering Phil a spot, should he accept it (even though he said he wouldn't - tough to turn £100k down!) then both Chizzy and Lewis could be relying on a PDC spot!!! Maybe another thing to be cautious off is the fact they could have 3 newbies in the PL (Cross, Mensur, Kyle) and might affect the standard. Really hope the PL doesn't break Cross like it did Bunting, Smith etc but I think he's a totally different animal - kinda looks tbh like he'll just thrive in there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 30, 2017, 09:56:08 AM Yeah - you're absolutely right. I guess Lewis is relying solely on a Sky pick - Sky picks last 4 years have been Taylor/Barney, Chizzy/Barney, Bunting/Barney, Anderson/Barney so if Lewis misses out on a PDC spot (which you have to imagine he will) then I reckon he'll pick his spot up through sky. So the big danger for Chizzy is that he's gonna miss out on the 4th PDC spot... Mensur, Cross, Whitlock, Anderson looks like the best 4 on merit at the moment, seems very difficult to justify giving chizzy a spot over Kyle or Whitlock. Chizzy not dead in the water though, he's so entertaining and his 180 hitting is amazing for crowd morale, deep run at the players or the worlds he'll probably pip one of the Aussies on reputation. Chance Mensur refuses again in which case it's kind of tough to imagine who else they could go for, or maybe Lewis wins the players or semi's the worlds and he might get a PDC spot in which case Chizzy will likely get the nod from Sky. Then of course, sky are 100% offering Phil a spot, should he accept it (even though he said he wouldn't - tough to turn £100k down!) then both Chizzy and Lewis could be relying on a PDC spot!!! Maybe another thing to be cautious off is the fact they could have 3 newbies in the PL (Cross, Mensur, Kyle) and might affect the standard. Really hope the PL doesn't break Cross like it did Bunting, Smith etc but I think he's a totally different animal - kinda looks tbh like he'll just thrive in there. Yeah Jackpot gets a wildcard on reputation in the same way Anderson and Barney got them when they had barren years and dropped down the ranking. I think Cross will be fine. Showed up really well last night in defeat. He has also beaten everyone throughout the course of the year. More likely he is the one doing the bashing up. Kyle also showed up really well going toe to toe with MVG. Obviously fluffed his lines when it really matter but for his first major semi did very well. He seems to me to be a bit more streaky than say Cross so could struggle in the PL if his form was to dip. Doesn’t seem mentally weak like Bunting and Smith though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 30, 2017, 10:27:22 AM Hope so! Love a bit of Rob Cross! Such an animal.
Think with Cross Mensur etc in it might be way more competitive this year, last year was a bit dull how Kim and Jelle were never in it, and the top 4 were all but locked by the final night, Chizzy's last minute run and PW's fucking up the final was the only highlights really. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 30, 2017, 11:09:56 AM Rankings shaping up ahead of the Grand Slam.
Another sick spot for Gurney ton consolidate world #4 - he's not defending a penny so gets a £15k headstart over Lewis who he'd £10k ahead of to start the event, Lewis not even in it yet so if he doesn't qualify just for turnig up Gurney is going to be nearly £30k ahead of him, he's £14k ahead of Phil in #6 who is defending £50k this week, so is going to kick off £65k ahead of Phil, only a win for Phil can see him overtake Gurney. This leads to a good opportunity for Mensur to improve his rankings ahead of the worlds, he's not defending anything either so he's going to kick off £10k behind Lewis in #5 and jump over to £35k ahead of Phil in #6. Chizzy has an opportunity here that he just cannot afford to pass up, he's going to start in #7 about £5k ahead of Phil he already has a £30k lead on Barney in #9 who is defending £17.5k more than him, if he wants to secure his top 10 spot, keep a good rankings for the worlds and retain his PL spot, he NEEDS a good showing here. A semi final and a good performance will probably lock him a top 6 spot and I think will get him in in PL. He fucked it up at the GP and just has to perform well here, or big problems. The other person with a real good chance to make a move here is Whitlock. He's also not defending any money, the 6 people behind him in the rankings are not currently qualified and the two guys above him in the rankings (smith and barney) who are £1k and £12k ahead of him respectively are both defending semi-final money (£25k) he's going to start this event in good form with only £75k behind him and #5, with some very venerable people in between, and absolutely no threat from behind. Great opportunity for him to hunt a top 6 spot down. Gerwyn Price and Rob Cross obviously in great spots as well, most players directly above them aren't yet in and defending no money - Rob Cross is incredibly only £70k off the top 16! He's in this, and he's got the best draw for the Players...I think it's doable before the worlds, what an achievement that would be!!! People in a bit of trouble - Lewis, obviously as we discussed many times is screwed every way you look at it. Phil is kind of in bother but when you hardly play and are defending lots of money realistically it's pretty slick that he looks to have a top 10 spot locked up for the worlds - wouldn't put it past him to have a deep run here either, as saving himself for the big events seems to be working for him in his twilight year. Wade obviously, everyone above will pull further ahead and he slips further back towards to the bottom end of the top 16. Micheal Smith has a bit of a problem, iffy form and £25k to defend here, looks like he'll be out of the top 10 for the Worlds, Barney's £10k buffer might save his top 10 spot, both really need a good run here. Biggest danger here though is for Kim Huybrechts, he's already slipped out of the top 16 and is defending £15k here, with Gerwyn Price right behind him already in the tournament. Lucky for Kim he has a £37k buffer over #19 and £60k lead over #24....the bad news is that the guys chasing him are Cullen, Beaton, Anderson, Cross - all in great form. He needs to get himself in this tournament or put a good performance up at the players or he could have a dreadful draw at the worlds - where he's lucky he's only defending £14k between the two. Darts is too sick right now :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 30, 2017, 01:17:54 PM I think it will be good to see Wade and Jackpot out of the PL. Don't think we will see Wade again in it but Jackpot probably needs Hearn to give him the reality check and kick up the arse to sort his life/game out. Might be just what Jackpot and the sport in general needs longer term. We need Jackpot at his peak talent as he is a great watch. He has never taken the PL seriously at any point in his career. I would love to know how much you would be losing if you had backed him every game blind over the years in the PL.
I think this will be the worse standard PL for years. Not really looking forward to it tbh. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 30, 2017, 02:02:16 PM I think this will be the worse standard PL for years. Not really looking forward to it tbh. If they get the line up right, get rid of the dead wood and put the actual best players in the world in, I think it'll be sick. Loads of people seem to think Darts isn't that exciting atm but if you watched any of the euro tours this year they have been incredible standard, UK open was a bit meh, matchplay with PT's win was exciting, had a new winner the GP and last weekends Euros were really great too. Think the order is changing, Phil is leaving, Lewis, Wade are no longer in the top 25 (on form) and new players who aren't just quite ready to smash 110 averages all the time on the big stage are coming through, next 1-2 years is going be very exciting and see a real change in the lineup of who's a superstar and who isn't. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Dartsfan on October 30, 2017, 07:03:47 PM I reckon the new PL will be very competitive
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 30, 2017, 07:06:05 PM I reckon the new PL will be very competitive Very competitive probably means a pretty wank standard then! We have been spoilt for years with huge averages across the board. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Dartsfan on October 30, 2017, 07:09:21 PM Mvg Anderson wright gurney cross mensur all going to be hitting 100avg
Nobody has mentioned cullen, thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 30, 2017, 08:04:44 PM Mvg Anderson wright gurney cross mensur all going to be hitting 100avg Nobody has mentioned cullen, thoughts? He’s done nothing to merit it yet. Lots of talent but of the same ilk as Smith and Bunting. He would get eaten alive. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 30, 2017, 08:08:58 PM I think Cullen has PL player in the making for sure, just needs to get a little more consistent and bring his tour form to the big stage. His doubles were his Achilles heel for ever and he's been a lot better this year.
Whats everyones thoughts on Benito van de Pas? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 30, 2017, 08:10:10 PM I reckon the new PL will be very competitive Very competitive probably means a pretty wank standard then! We have been spoilt for years with huge averages across the board. What price you give me that there will be at least 3 102+ averages every night in the PL pre-finals? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Dartsfan on October 30, 2017, 08:20:35 PM I think Cullen has PL player in the making for sure, just needs to get a little more consistent and bring his tour form to the big stage. His doubles were his Achilles heel for ever and he's been a lot better this year. Whats everyones thoughts on Benito van de Pas? He's no Corey cadby Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 30, 2017, 08:40:29 PM lol. cant wait to see Cadby on tour next year, assuming he gets a tour card...which is no easy thing to do.
I think darts is really exciting atm. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 30, 2017, 10:58:02 PM I think Cullen has PL player in the making for sure, just needs to get a little more consistent and bring his tour form to the big stage. His doubles were his Achilles heel for ever and he's been a lot better this year. Whats everyones thoughts on Benito van de Pas? Despite his young age I don’t think Benito has much scope for improvement. His action isn’t great at all which is largely why he is inconsistent. I can see him kicking around the top 16 but don’t see him kickingbon and winning tournaments and making top 8 or do. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 30, 2017, 11:04:01 PM I think Cullen has PL player in the making for sure, just needs to get a little more consistent and bring his tour form to the big stage. His doubles were his Achilles heel for ever and he's been a lot better this year. Whats everyones thoughts on Benito van de Pas? Despite his young age I don’t think Benito has much scope for improvement. His action isn’t great at all which is largely why he is inconsistent. I can see him kicking around the top 16 but don’t see him kickingbon and winning tournaments and making top 8 or do. He is a 2017 version of 2012 Wes Newton imo. I just get the feeling MVG is head and shoulders above everyone. He knows it and is easing off having had a kid. Taylor never eased off in his prime he just cranked up the pain for those below even more. Not sure MVG is going to have this motiviation long term. Ando/Snake are regressing having probably reached their peak. Barney obviously the same. Remember they are both a lot older than people think (both late 40s) even though they have only been at the top of the game for a couple of years. The thing for me is Gurney ranked 4th in the world, mensur 7th currently but effectively 5th once Taylor/jackpot slip below him in the next 3 months. Jackpot and Chis are both naturally lazy individuals who just do enough to get by. I just can't have the game is great with these two ranked so high. Merv King/Terry Jenkins/Manley at their peak would have destroyed this Irish chancer and Mensur. People talking about Cullen for the PL. Fuck me you know the game is gone when that is even being discussed. He couldn't win on TV for about four years! I hate sounding negative but i just don't think the game is in great shape at the minute. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 30, 2017, 11:41:01 PM Position Name Value
1 Michael van Gerwen £1,691,250 2 Peter Wright £730,250 3 Gary Anderson £701,750 4 Daryl Gurney £399,250 5 Adrian Lewis £390,000 6 Phil Taylor £385,500 7 Mensur Suljovic £362,000 8 Dave Chisnall £347,500 9 Raymond van Barneveld £317,750 10 Michael Smith £306,250 11 Simon Whitlock £305,250 12 James Wade £294,750 13 Jelle Klaasen £293,500 14 Benito van de Pas £275,000 15 Alan Norris £260,250 16 Ian White £253,250 17 Kim Huybrechts £252,250 18 Gerwyn Price £244,750 19 Joe Cullen £215,750 20 Mervyn King £188,500 21 Stephen Bunting £180,000 22 Kyle Anderson £176,500 23 Steve Beaton £175,500 24 Rob Cross £172,250 25 Darren Webster £166,000 26 Robert Thornton £159,750 27 Mark Webster £145,000 28 Cristo Reyes £144,250 29 John Henderson £132,750 30 Vincent van der Voort £127,000 31 Terry Jenkins £125,000 32 Justin Pipe £124,500 How many of the top 32 are actually 'up and coming'? Just seems to me like a lot of past their best operators holding on for a pension. Even some of the youngest (Lewis/Wade) are still probably past their best motivation wise. The vast majority of the top 32 is over 35 and the ones that are younger have probably reached their peak. Where is the real talent coming through. Don't give me Gurney. He is just someone like Wade ten years ago who has run too good with draws. He is talentless/classless to be operating at 4 in the world compared to the glory years of the game. Taylor probably fancies cancelling the retirement as the game has never been easier. The fact he won the MP averaging 105 over 35 legs (imo the toughest event of the year to win) says a lot about how soft the game currently is. Smith/Bunting/Price/Cullen/Anderson/Kim/Jelle all had years in the game now and found nothing kicking on wise to challenge the real big boys. i think the money is so big in the 10-25 rankings that the lazy boys can still make £100k a year without having to try all down to the fact the power has built them an industry to live on over the past 20 years. The fact Whitlock is back in the top 10 after his gambling/booze issues says a lot. He should be washed up if the game is really booming. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on October 31, 2017, 02:17:54 AM Position Name Value 1 Michael van Gerwen £1,691,250 2 Peter Wright £730,250 3 Gary Anderson £701,750 4 Daryl Gurney £399,250 5 Adrian Lewis £390,000 6 Phil Taylor £385,500 7 Mensur Suljovic £362,000 8 Dave Chisnall £347,500 9 Raymond van Barneveld £317,750 10 Michael Smith £306,250 11 Simon Whitlock £305,250 12 James Wade £294,750 13 Jelle Klaasen £293,500 14 Benito van de Pas £275,000 15 Alan Norris £260,250 16 Ian White £253,250 17 Kim Huybrechts £252,250 18 Gerwyn Price £244,750 19 Joe Cullen £215,750 20 Mervyn King £188,500 21 Stephen Bunting £180,000 22 Kyle Anderson £176,500 23 Steve Beaton £175,500 24 Rob Cross £172,250 25 Darren Webster £166,000 26 Robert Thornton £159,750 27 Mark Webster £145,000 28 Cristo Reyes £144,250 29 John Henderson £132,750 30 Vincent van der Voort £127,000 31 Terry Jenkins £125,000 32 Justin Pipe £124,500 How many of the top 32 are actually 'up and coming'? Just seems to me like a lot of past their best operators holding on for a pension. Even some of the youngest (Lewis/Wade) are still probably past their best motivation wise. The vast majority of the top 32 is over 35 and the ones that are younger have probably reached their peak. Where is the real talent coming through. Don't give me Gurney. He is just someone like Wade ten years ago who has run too good with draws. He is talentless/classless to be operating at 4 in the world compared to the glory years of the game. Taylor probably fancies cancelling the retirement as the game has never been easier. The fact he won the MP averaging 105 over 35 legs (imo the toughest event of the year to win) says a lot about how soft the game currently is. Smith/Bunting/Price/Cullen/Anderson/Kim/Jelle all had years in the game now and found nothing kicking on wise to challenge the real big boys. i think the money is so big in the 10-25 rankings that the lazy boys can still make £100k a year without having to try all down to the fact the power has built them an industry to live on over the past 20 years. The fact Whitlock is back in the top 10 after his gambling/booze issues says a lot. He should be washed up if the game is really booming. The seedings system mean that it is too difficult to break into the top 16/32. Should be more tournaments which are a random draw and only use seedings for the Worlds, Matchplay and Grand Prix or something. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 31, 2017, 08:58:08 AM Rankings are shifting, Jackpot and Wade are on their way out of the top 16, neither will be in the top 13/14 after Xmas without a big run at the worlds, I know you hate Gurney Arb but he's been brilliant all year, big 180 man very entertaining, lots of 100+ averages, got a lot more bottle know and knows how to win. Peter Wright was blistering in the first 4 months of the year but has over-worked himself for sure and his performances have suffered but fair play he might have stupid hair but the guy knows how to win a darts match. Big bottle issues for the big moments though, imo.
Chizzy is running out of time to save his top 10 ranking, Barney is old he always relies on his major results to sustain his ranking and because of how tough the top 50 in the world are its harder and harder, whitlock is a great example - fell out of the top 30 and then grinded it back - he's had a brilliant year from start to finish and thoroughly deserves. Cross has been the big story this year, Cadby coming next year, Kyle Anderson & Joe Cullen showing massive improvements and are both a major run away from breaking into the top 16. Demitri van den Bergh, Johny Clayton, Chris Dobey, are three guys making a real assualt on the top 32 and then older guys like Steve West and Peter Jacques having good years and beating everyone this year. SO many big averages and exciting games this year, because unlike 5-8 years ago when only the top 10 could beat each other and even then #10 rarely beat #3, now #7 getting turned over by #36 with a 106 average week on week, guys you probably never heard off unless you follow the euros and pro tour are bashing the top guys up. To me, I think that's exciting. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on October 31, 2017, 11:49:05 AM Gurney has loads of talent (although not so much class). Worlds QF, UK Open, Matchplay, Euros SF, WGP win. Yeah he has ran good at times with draws but that’s some record in a breakthrough year.
It does feel like a bit of a transitional phase though with Taylor retiring and Anderson, Lewis, Barney, Jackpot on the downgrade. There are guys with loads of ability like Kyle and Cross who are probably a year or so away from challenging regularly. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 31, 2017, 11:56:28 AM Agree with you Bazza. And there are guys right behind those guys who are a year away from the chance of a big breakthrough year, and then guys just behind them a year away from breaking the top 32-16 some of whom will have a big year.
If you look outside the big names who have largely disappointed this year then I think the sport (yes sport!!!) is in great shape and some exciting guys. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 31, 2017, 12:24:46 PM Gurney has loads of talent (although not so much class). Worlds QF, UK Open, Matchplay, Euros SF, WGP win. Yeah he has ran good at times with draws but that’s some record in a breakthrough year. It does feel like a bit of a transitional phase though with Taylor retiring and Anderson, Lewis, Barney, Jackpot on the downgrade. There are guys with loads of ability like Kyle and Cross who are probably a year or so away from challenging regularly. That's exactly what it feels like to me as well and DG has taken full advantage of it. Fair play to him. I just can't have him on my mind long term as a elite level player. I love jackpot and really hope h sorts himself out. Stops having kids and gets his head down and focuses on his cash cow, darts, for a few years. He will struggle to find other employment in Stoke which pays the same. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on October 31, 2017, 02:26:34 PM Love the darts and find Lil Dave's posts about the rankings & money lists very interesting.
I actually don't feel that the game will be worse for Taylor & Barney making way for the next gen of players, unlike in tennis, where I think the game will defo be worse when Fed & Nadal retire. I've got tickets for the premier league this year (haven't bothered in previous years as enjoyed attending the matchplay at Blackpool much more) but I'd much rather personally see the likes of Rob Cross, Gurney, Cadby (not this year for him) than the likes of Taylor, Barney, Wade. There are so many good younger players 16-50 in the rankings, people like Cullen, Reyes, Dobey, Clayton, Jamie Lewis, Van Der Bergh, Wattimena, Meulenkamp are so good to watch on their day, just need to find that magical consistency. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 31, 2017, 02:40:36 PM Daves knowledge of darts is scary! I used to think i was a proper rankings form student and nerd until Dave started posting about them!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 01, 2017, 07:54:47 AM Daves knowledge of darts is scary! I used to think i was a proper rankings form student and nerd until Dave started posting about them! Still chasing you down mate :) I think the biggest problem at the moment is that ~£70k gap between 19th and 21st. That way it's a smoother ride into the top 16 from outside, and it'll put more pressure on guys like Ian White, Benito, Kim etc - I mean Ian White, great player but never does anything in a major ever, hence why he's struggling in the bottom of the top 16. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 02, 2017, 10:41:12 AM The WSOD could have a very lop sided look to it depending on where the dangerous floaters end up. Anderson, Price, Barney, Wade are the seeds in the top half. None of them have shown any real form of late. Bottom half tougher with MVG, Kyle, Snakebite and Gurney.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 02, 2017, 11:17:09 AM The WSOD could have a very lop sided look to it depending on where the dangerous floaters end up. Anderson, Price, Barney, Wade are the seeds in the top half. None of them have shown any real form of late. Bottom half tougher with MVG, Kyle, Snakebite and Gurney. Yeh, this backs up exactly whats been said - out of the players in this event, who are the guys you really wanna avoid??? Barney (#4 seed) Wade (#5 seed) Price (#8 seed) Lewis (world #5) Chizzy (world #7) Jelle (world #9) no-one will be to scared to play these guys right now... Whitlock, Cross, Cadby, Whitlock are 4 of the most dangerous and they are qualifiers/invites. I think you're absolutely right, if the weaker non seeds get into the top half it's probably time for EW punt on Garry, if any of the stronger non-seeds (Rob Cross mainly) gets in the top half without too much competition from unseeded players then could be a great spot for some EW betting. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 02, 2017, 11:56:45 AM TBH actually might be worth taking a swing at 20-1 Rob Cross (1/2 odds EW) and just gambling on the draw.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 03, 2017, 11:09:48 AM I’ve taken a bit of a flyer on Dekker at a huge price. He has the easiest 1st round game and then plays Wade who could easily ave 85. He is pretty inconsistent himself but has shown flashes of form on the Euro tour this year. In 5 of his last 9 games he has averaged 95+. With Barney being Barney and Anderson possibly undercooked after recently becoming a father again it didn’t look the worst 500/1 shot I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 02:48:10 PM I’ve taken a bit of a flyer on Dekker at a huge price. He has the easiest 1st round game and then plays Wade who could easily ave 85. He is pretty inconsistent himself but has shown flashes of form on the Euro tour this year. In 5 of his last 9 games he has averaged 95+. With Barney being Barney and Anderson possibly undercooked after recently becoming a father again it didn’t look the worst 500/1 shot I’ve ever seen. I like it Bazza think I'll give it a spin :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 06:19:08 PM Looking forward to this now.
Some interesting games, Clayton/Cross looks like the pick of them on current form! Smith DVDB has a good look about it too, those two had a real cracker in a euro tour 1/4 this yr Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 03, 2017, 06:22:24 PM Dobey looks a huge price to me @ 4/1 to beat Mensur. Its only first to 6 legs and although Dobey hasn't had the best of years he's very capable on his day.
Mensur is clinical on the doubles but hasn't been peppering the red bit in the last couple of weeks (post Champions League). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 03, 2017, 07:35:06 PM I’ve taken a bit of a flyer on Dekker at a huge price. He has the easiest 1st round game and then plays Wade who could easily ave 85. He is pretty inconsistent himself but has shown flashes of form on the Euro tour this year. In 5 of his last 9 games he has averaged 95+. With Barney being Barney and Anderson possibly undercooked after recently becoming a father again it didn’t look the worst 500/1 shot I’ve ever seen. I like it Bazza think I'll give it a spin :) Played like a 500/1 poke Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on November 03, 2017, 07:48:00 PM Can't resist a small poke on Cadby at 50s for this.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 08:23:45 PM Dobey looks a huge price to me @ 4/1 to beat Mensur. Its only first to 6 legs and although Dobey hasn't had the best of years he's very capable on his day. Mensur is clinical on the doubles but hasn't been peppering the red bit in the last couple of weeks (post Champions League). Yeh Dobey +2.5 at 5/4 looking pretty big, we actually made it 2.4 on the stats but I think Mensur tends to be a bit airey fairy in the BO11's and not one to hammer anyone. Dobey very dangerous when he shows up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 08:29:50 PM I think Dimitri vs Smith has lots of potential on the betting too, +1.5 @ 5/4 or 6/5 and outright at 9/4.
Dimitri has been pretty consistent all year (the odd 85 average thrown in) Smith tends to blow hot and cold and short format against a guy who is so comfortable in BO11 and pretty likely to throw a decent set of arrows just feels like exactly the type of game Smith would lose. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 08:48:46 PM Oh No Adrian.
Problems, big problems. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 03, 2017, 08:52:48 PM Dobey a big disappointment for me this year. Really thought he would have kicked in but he has regressed.
I’ve backed VDB. Also had a bit on Klaasen and Klaasen most 180s. Cadby hasn’t been pulling up any trees back in Oz recently. I’ve opposed Klaasen most of the year but think he’s a bit big tonight. The early exits are mounting up for Chizzy and Jackpot. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 09:10:14 PM Guys like Pipe and Hopp should be shitting themselves playing Chiz and Lewis. For sure for both when they saw the draw they'd have thought to themselves this is winnable.
Klaasen 180s has been a tough one, he was hitting close to Cadby pre injury and best part of 30% less than Cadby since, think majors doubts over Cadby's consistency and doubts over Klaasen's durability. In a short format though 1.6 Cadby does seem a bit off. I think in that game, if it gets intense you'll get lots of 180s from Corey, if its a scrap I think you'll see Jelle have the upper hand in all areas. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 03, 2017, 09:15:13 PM Different class from Dimi
Dogs going through the card. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 03, 2017, 09:53:17 PM Cadby doesn’t look to be in any sort of nick. Klaasen hopeless though.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 10:28:23 PM Cadby doesn’t look to be in any sort of nick. Klaasen hopeless though. Yeh wasn't very convincing. Dimitri will fancy this, he'll feel like Barney is beatable atm, then Stevenson/Wade in the 1/4s great oppurtunity for him to get some big stage exposure and bank a few £s. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 03, 2017, 11:03:03 PM Dobey looks a huge price to me @ 4/1 to beat Mensur. Its only first to 6 legs and although Dobey hasn't had the best of years he's very capable on his day. Mensur is clinical on the doubles but hasn't been peppering the red bit in the last couple of weeks (post Champions League). Yeh Dobey +2.5 at 5/4 looking pretty big, we actually made it 2.4 on the stats but I think Mensur tends to be a bit airey fairy in the BO11's and not one to hammer anyone. Dobey very dangerous when he shows up. Didn't show up for a while but once he did he reallllly did :D ;applause; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 03, 2017, 11:04:08 PM Dobey looks a huge price to me @ 4/1 to beat Mensur. Its only first to 6 legs and although Dobey hasn't had the best of years he's very capable on his day. Mensur is clinical on the doubles but hasn't been peppering the red bit in the last couple of weeks (post Champions League). Yeh Dobey +2.5 at 5/4 looking pretty big, we actually made it 2.4 on the stats but I think Mensur tends to be a bit airey fairy in the BO11's and not one to hammer anyone. Dobey very dangerous when he shows up. Didn't show up for a while but once he did he reallllly did :D ;applause; Great shout Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: PokerBroker on November 03, 2017, 11:08:23 PM Got a freebie for Darts in Glasgow this Sunday not sure what the comp is or format but looking for punts?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 11:22:45 PM Got a freebie for Darts in Glasgow this Sunday not sure what the comp is or format but looking for punts? World Series Finals, some very good games cropping up!!! I think they'll be some bets watch this space :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 03, 2017, 11:23:39 PM Nice one Brent!
I'm unfortunately on Clayton 2.5 here :( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on November 04, 2017, 10:14:49 AM Price \ Cadby should be lively today.
Some tough games to call, what we backing today lads? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 04, 2017, 06:01:38 PM Price \ Cadby should be lively today. Some tough games to call, what we backing today lads? Its a tough lineup actually for betting tonight :S I think that Dimitri to hit most 180s vs RVB at 13/8 is a good shout, also think Price might do Cadby today (exactly the sort of game price will love) and I would be quite surprised if MVG bother to turns up much past his C game vs Hopp. (should win easily still) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 04, 2017, 11:41:18 PM Long time since I enjoyed a night of darts as much as that.
Hot takes: Anderson looks refreshed and has renewed focus after his light season. Think he could go a long way in the worlds. Rob Cross is an absolute class act. Top 4 player in waiting. Corey Cadby is a grade one wanker. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 04, 2017, 11:52:25 PM was a brilliant night, loved the Price/Cadby game, loved the Anderson/Cross game. Even enjoyed the Wade game :D
Looks like the bog dogs are all shaping up for some form. Corey Cadby I think he's brilliant, gets under peoples skins, gives it the bigun, gets the crowd booing, love a bit of needle in the game Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 04, 2017, 11:54:18 PM Also I thought Van Den Burgh had a very bright future when I first saw him.
Taken a bit longer than I expected, but finally looks like realising that potential. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 05, 2017, 10:33:20 AM Cadby v Price lived up to expectations although it gets a bit embarrassing when you are celebrating pinging a T18 for a 93. Cadby in nothing like the form he was in this time last year.
Today’s action should be good. There’s no love lost between Price and Anderson, Dimi beats Wade if he reproduces form of previous two matches. Cross should run MVG close again and I fancy Gurney to edge Snakebite. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: PokerBroker on November 05, 2017, 11:25:04 AM I backed Gurney at 16's for a bit of a sweat hopefully that starts with him beating snakebite this afternoon.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 05, 2017, 11:54:12 AM I quite like Cadby, Price is the real knobhead for me. Cadby, as Bazzaboy mentioned, is nowhere near his best though.
Van Der Bergh @ 13/8 and Gurney @ 6/4 the bets this aft as both averaged about 8 higher than who they play today yesterday (if that makes sense). Anderson @ 7/2 (2 1,3) probs not a terrible snidey ew bet given how clinical he looked yest and the fact that he will defo make the final wheras mvg has tougher games in Cross then Wright/Gurney. A great day of sport awaits, darts on the tv and footy then american footy on the lappy, what a time to be alive. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: PokerBroker on November 05, 2017, 01:55:52 PM Trebles for show and doubles for dough. Was loving my bet on Dimitri after 3 legs as well.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 05, 2017, 03:48:10 PM A great day of sport awaits, darts on the tv and footy then american footy on the lappy, what a time to be alive. Absolutely. Yeh was loving the Dimitri poke but that 4th leg knocked him of, real shame. Come on Gurney, madness to price him anywhere near 2.4 imo, beaten wright plenty of times, used to big stage, used to the format, in slightly better form than PW. I think it should be 1.9/2.1 kinda numbers Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 05, 2017, 09:53:57 PM Cmonnnnnnnnn Garrrrry
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 06, 2017, 08:36:28 AM Thought the tournament was really good overall, the final session was, if anything a little less exciting but still enjoyed it, hopefully a good sign for the grand slam next week!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on November 06, 2017, 10:31:35 AM Loving the enthusiasm and write ups about the darts! What are your thoughts on the grand slam? Anyone from the BDO that could have a run at it?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 06, 2017, 11:40:17 AM World Youth tournament plays down to final two today and it’s Cadby’s last chance at bagging a place at the Worlds unless the PDC hand him an invite which given some of the stuff they have done recently isn’t out of the question. Pretty strong field with the likes of Benito and Dimitri in there.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 06, 2017, 01:25:08 PM Does anyone remember 15 year old Justin Van Tergouw from last years BDO youth championships.
PDC FloorTournaments Retweeted The PDPA @PDPA_darts 14m14 minutes ago Almost a 9 Darter in WYC Justin van Tergouw wires D18... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 06, 2017, 02:34:53 PM He’s going to be very good.
Cadby through to the last 8. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 06, 2017, 02:54:14 PM gutted the youths isn't on PDC TV would be fun to watch.
Loving the enthusiasm and write ups about the darts! What are your thoughts on the grand slam? Anyone from the BDO that could have a run at it? Not for me, Glen Durrant the most fancied and got ripped apart by Krsytof Ratajski at the world masters, gulf in class too big, anyone in the world would snap off being PDC #25 over BDO #1 and that says it all. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 06, 2017, 03:47:41 PM GG Cadby. Loses to Josh Payne in the semis.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 06, 2017, 04:09:34 PM was pretty outrageous to have him 40/1 for the worlds when he wasnt even gtd to qualify
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 06, 2017, 06:36:49 PM Jackpot loses to Stevenson in last 64 of GSOD qualifier. That’s not going to help his ranking any. PL place going to be under threat unless he finds something in the next month or so.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 07, 2017, 12:35:27 AM Jackpot loses to Stevenson in last 64 of GSOD qualifier. That’s not going to help his ranking any. PL place going to be under threat unless he finds something in the next month or so. He's totally gone at the moment, looking at him he doesn't that uncomfortable from the injury, looks fine - just not throwing them at the right places. I think it's probably a combination of severe lack of practice (new baby + surgery + laziness) and perhaps he's had to alter some mechanic in his flow and he's just not used to it yet....or even worse perhaps the wonderful free-flow rhythm he has when he's on-song has been affected by his surgery, maybe he'll never get it back? Anyways, he's in big trouble here. He will lose £200k between now and the end of the worlds, he only has the Players and the Worlds to do it in. This is the players champs prize money; Winner £100,000 Runner-Up £40,000 Semi-finalists £23,000 Quarter-finalists £12,500 Last 16 £8,000 Last 32 £5,000 Last 64 £2,500 And the Worlds; Winner £400,000 Runner-up £170,000 Semi-finalist £85,000 Quarter-finalist £40,000 Third round losers £27,000 Second round losers £18,500 First round losers £11,000 So, with £200k to make up just maintain his ranking points (which doesn't even guarantee top 5) you have to wonder where the hell this money is gonna come from, if he made the semi finals of both the players and the worlds (which has to be like 40s+ on his current form) that would be £111k in cashes and give him £286k in rankings money, and on todays figures that would put him world #12. If he quarter finals them both, thats £52.5k in prize money, that puts him at £227.5k in prize money and right this minute would put him world #19. The big saving grace for Jackpot is the buffer between ~16 and ~22 in the world, this effectively means that in the short term, even cashes of £25k-£35k which would be a disaster for Jackpot, will probably still keep him in the top 20. 16 Ian White £248,250 17 Gerwyn Price £244,750 18 Kim Huybrechts £237,250 19 Joe Cullen £215,750 20 Mervyn King £183,500 21 Stephen Bunting £180,000 22 Kyle Anderson £176,500 23 Rob Cross £172,250 24 Steve Beaton £168,000 25 Darren Webster £166,000 26 Cristo Reyes £144,250 The danger is this buffer is getting close in, Rob Cross, Kyle Anderson, and Joe Cullen not defending any real money and all in good form, don't really see too much danger from the pack just below that JUST yet for Adrian so as desperate as the situation is for him in terms of his top 16 ranking I think he should be fairly safe in his top 24/32 rankings, with only £112k to defend next year and thanks to this year hardly a penny to defend in 2019 a return to form in 2018 and a decent run in a major would probably see him on course to recover his top 10 rankings. Biggest question is though once out of the world top 16 he's going to need to qualify for certain events and have much much tougher draws, going to need to start really grinding the pro/euro tours, will require work ethic we just don't know if he has. Next year will be a big year for him. I think as it currently stands he'll probably pip Chizzy to a sky wild card pick along with Barney for the PL. Doesn't deserve his spot though, and tbh for the longevity of his career might be better if he missed out - let him focus on tour events and build some money up on his rankings. If he can start to perform well on the floor and put a solid £100k of tour cashes together. Realistically though he might be never coming back in which case picking up a quick 80k from the PL might be the last money he can make. It's very bad news basically. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 07, 2017, 04:33:17 PM Group E looks a bit tasty at the GSOD
Snakebite, Chuck, Cadby, Durrant Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 07, 2017, 04:47:25 PM Group A
(1) Michael van Gerwen Rob Cross Joe Murnan Ross Montgomery Group B (8) Raymond van Barneveld Gerwyn Price Steve Lennon Jamie Hughes Group C (5) Phil Taylor James Wade Robbie Green Peter Machin Group D (4) Daryl Gurney Darren Webster Mark Webster Danny Noppert Group E (2) Peter Wright Alan Norris Corey Cadby Glen Durrant Group F (7) Dave Chisnall Stephen Bunting Jeffrey de Zwaan Scott Mitchell Group G (6) Mensur Suljovic Michael Smith James Wilson Mark McGeeney Group H (3) Gary Anderson Simon Whitlock Berry van Peer Cameron Menzies Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 07, 2017, 04:49:18 PM Jackpot loses to Stevenson in last 64 of GSOD qualifier. That’s not going to help his ranking any. PL place going to be under threat unless he finds something in the next month or so. He's totally gone at the moment, looking at him he doesn't that uncomfortable from the injury, looks fine - just not throwing them at the right places. I think it's probably a combination of severe lack of practice (new baby + surgery + laziness) and perhaps he's had to alter some mechanic in his flow and he's just not used to it yet....or even worse perhaps the wonderful free-flow rhythm he has when he's on-song has been affected by his surgery, maybe he'll never get it back? Anyways, he's in big trouble here. He will lose £200k between now and the end of the worlds, he only has the Players and the Worlds to do it in. This is the players champs prize money; Winner £100,000 Runner-Up £40,000 Semi-finalists £23,000 Quarter-finalists £12,500 Last 16 £8,000 Last 32 £5,000 Last 64 £2,500 And the Worlds; Winner £400,000 Runner-up £170,000 Semi-finalist £85,000 Quarter-finalist £40,000 Third round losers £27,000 Second round losers £18,500 First round losers £11,000 So, with £200k to make up just maintain his ranking points (which doesn't even guarantee top 5) you have to wonder where the hell this money is gonna come from, if he made the semi finals of both the players and the worlds (which has to be like 40s+ on his current form) that would be £111k in cashes and give him £286k in rankings money, and on todays figures that would put him world #12. If he quarter finals them both, thats £52.5k in prize money, that puts him at £227.5k in prize money and right this minute would put him world #19. The big saving grace for Jackpot is the buffer between ~16 and ~22 in the world, this effectively means that in the short term, even cashes of £25k-£35k which would be a disaster for Jackpot, will probably still keep him in the top 20. 16 Ian White £248,250 17 Gerwyn Price £244,750 18 Kim Huybrechts £237,250 19 Joe Cullen £215,750 20 Mervyn King £183,500 21 Stephen Bunting £180,000 22 Kyle Anderson £176,500 23 Rob Cross £172,250 24 Steve Beaton £168,000 25 Darren Webster £166,000 26 Cristo Reyes £144,250 The danger is this buffer is getting close in, Rob Cross, Kyle Anderson, and Joe Cullen not defending any real money and all in good form, don't really see too much danger from the pack just below that JUST yet for Adrian so as desperate as the situation is for him in terms of his top 16 ranking I think he should be fairly safe in his top 24/32 rankings, with only £112k to defend next year and thanks to this year hardly a penny to defend in 2019 a return to form in 2018 and a decent run in a major would probably see him on course to recover his top 10 rankings. Biggest question is though once out of the world top 16 he's going to need to qualify for certain events and have much much tougher draws, going to need to start really grinding the pro/euro tours, will require work ethic we just don't know if he has. Next year will be a big year for him. I think as it currently stands he'll probably pip Chizzy to a sky wild card pick along with Barney for the PL. Doesn't deserve his spot though, and tbh for the longevity of his career might be better if he missed out - let him focus on tour events and build some money up on his rankings. If he can start to perform well on the floor and put a solid £100k of tour cashes together. Realistically though he might be never coming back in which case picking up a quick 80k from the PL might be the last money he can make. It's very bad news basically. This has been coming for a long time though tbh and, imo, it is only the huge distortion in the prize money at the World's every year that has allowed him to maintain his top 5 spot for so long. 2 wins, runner up and a few deep runs into Semi's since 2011. He has basically just punted his entire ranking for years on his ability to turn up once a year and perform in the biggest event of the year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Lewis If you look at his career best results in each event. Nothing has happened in the past 4/5 years since 2013. Not quite sure how he has constantly managed to stay top 4/5 between 2011-now. I really worry for him as i don't think he has the work ethic to grind it back from the leisure centres at the weekends in Barnsley/Crawley etc. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 07, 2017, 04:52:38 PM Grand Slam
I've instantly weighed in on Bet Victor's opening 10/1 on De Zwaan to win Group F. They restricted me and cut it to 7/1 so my account could be in trouble. Worth looking out for as other books comes out. I also wonder if there will be a "To Qualify" market. Chizzy has had back problems and has looked unhappy with his game, Scott Mitchell has shown no recent form on the BDO circuit and De Zwaan recently beat Bunting 6-2 in a Players Championship in which he made the semi finals. He beat Ian White, Robert Thornton and Johnny Clayton to qualify for this and I think he should be 2nd fav and will be looking to back him against both Bunting and especially Mitchell. Also interested in the Darren Webster prices in Group D. Mark Webster was horrific last weekend and Noppert not been near his best recently. Webster ridic solid and powered through his qualification matches with ease. Gurney obv pure class but not averse to throwing a wobbly one in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 07, 2017, 05:02:58 PM Basically that £150k 2 years ago at the worlds is what's done it.
I agree, don't think he's got it in him, would like to be proven wrong though, hopefully he pulls his socks up next year and has a good, I think a strong year 2018 gets him back to the top 10 and back with some confidence. CMON THE GRAND SLAM!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY GAMES :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 07, 2017, 05:06:23 PM Basically that £150k 2 years ago at the worlds is what's done it. I agree, don't think he's got it in him, would like to be proven wrong though, hopefully he pulls his socks up next year and has a good, I think a strong year 2018 gets him back to the top 10 and back with some confidence. CMON THE GRAND SLAM!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY GAMES :) Jackpot will win the world's this year and we will wonder what all the fuss was about when he gets his rightful spot back in the top 4 in the world! Anderson has £300k coming off his £700k total at the world's this year so he could easily start falling back into the pack as well without a huge world's this year. Snake is only defending £35k so all things being equal he will be miles clear 2nd at the start of next year. Could easily be £500k clear of Ando if he won the world's and Ando bombed out early doors. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 07, 2017, 05:27:52 PM Grand Slam I've instantly weighed in on Bet Victor's opening 10/1 on De Zwaan to win Group F. They restricted me and cut it to 7/1 so my account could be in trouble. Worth looking out for as other books comes out. I also wonder if there will be a "To Qualify" market. Chizzy has had back problems and has looked unhappy with his game, Scott Mitchell has shown no recent form on the BDO circuit and De Zwaan recently beat Bunting 6-2 in a Players Championship in which he made the semi finals. He beat Ian White, Robert Thornton and Johnny Clayton to qualify for this and I think he should be 2nd fav and will be looking to back him against both Bunting and especially Mitchell. Also interested in the Darren Webster prices in Group D. Mark Webster was horrific last weekend and Noppert not been near his best recently. Webster ridic solid and powered through his qualification matches with ease. Gurney obv pure class but not averse to throwing a wobbly one in. Great pick on de Zwaan imo. Group B is interesting as the two "big names" Price and Barney are, frankly speaking, very unimpressive of late, the two lesser known guys are interesting, Jamie Hughes made BDO semis and actually I remember him hammering chizzy last year with some sicko average. Steve Lennon has looked really impressive in patches this year and is just missing consistency, wouldn't want to back RVB or Price against either of them in a BO9 and super short prices, be interesting to see the prices there when the "qualify" markets come out. Group C is just an absolute cake-walk for big Phil, he's probably a legit 1/4 shot to finish top but I reckon he'll probably be shorter than that. Bookies tend to over-estimate James Wade despite all the evidence this year, so i feel like there is value here in there. Machin doesn't look like he'll be able to compete with a group even this week. I guess The Kong to qualify is the first place I'll look for a bet in this. Group G stands out as a potential spot for some value, James Wilson is one of the most improved guys on tour this year, he's upped his doubling from low 30s to high 30s and he's a decent scorer. Mensur proving very hard to beat these days but he is more than capable of randomly going off the boil and Smith when he loses his rhythm can just go awol for 3-4 legs which makes you so venerable in a BO9. The BDO guy McGeeney doesn't really look like he has the calibre to compete in what is actually a pretty competitive group, James Wilson to qualify and to top the group I will look at too. Nothing standing out on the outrights - maybe Whitlock at 66s with the 1/2 EW terms, not the easiest draw though, decent chance he has to play Mensur/Garry/Wright/MVG to win :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 07, 2017, 05:32:20 PM Basically that £150k 2 years ago at the worlds is what's done it. I agree, don't think he's got it in him, would like to be proven wrong though, hopefully he pulls his socks up next year and has a good, I think a strong year 2018 gets him back to the top 10 and back with some confidence. CMON THE GRAND SLAM!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY GAMES :) Jackpot will win the world's this year and we will wonder what all the fuss was about when he gets his rightful spot back in the top 4 in the world! Anderson has £300k coming off his £700k total at the world's this year so he could easily start falling back into the pack as well without a huge world's this year. Snake is only defending £35k so all things being equal he will be miles clear 2nd at the start of next year. Could easily be £500k clear of Ando if he won the world's and Ando bombed out early doors. Defo yeah, Garry will have to put a good show in at the worlds to stave off DG's attack on world #3. Good thing for Garry is he looked good last week, he's in all three of the upcoming majors with good draws in 2 of them (probably) so whereas he's a dog to match £320k he's defending he's probably fancying his chances of at least £100k and that should keep him above Gurney for a little while longer. Garry hardly played on tour this year but says he'll be back on the Euro Tour and a more fuller tour schedule next year. I think Garry realises that anything shy of winning the worlds and he'll be very very unlikely to catch up PW in #2. MVG could take the year off his #1 spot is safe :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 09, 2017, 07:12:30 PM Based on chisnalls problems, think bunting at 6/1 for most 180s in that group is big!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 11, 2017, 08:43:56 AM whoaoaaaaaaaaoooooo
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on November 11, 2017, 11:56:53 AM Any fancies today lads?
As mentioned, I like De Zwann and Wilson on handicaps. What do we think about Wright vs Durrant? Not really a big follower of BDO so don't know too much about his form? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 11, 2017, 12:19:43 PM Durrant can't compete against the PDC players and he knows it, that's why he didn't move isn't it?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 11, 2017, 04:22:32 PM I think durrent worth a poke at the prices myself, dont think there's been a darts match in a while where PW didn't set off too short
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 11, 2017, 04:59:05 PM World #1 vs world #2
Big game Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 11, 2017, 05:47:34 PM Durrant can't compete against the PDC players and he knows it, that's why he didn't move isn't it? I think he answered that himself. Duzza top 8 if he was to move across. Bear in mind that’s what he can do whilst still having a day job. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 11, 2017, 07:50:57 PM Meh, don't think beating Wright means much these days
Good point about the day job though, I do think he should give it a go in the PDC. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 11, 2017, 09:54:09 PM if you can do 5 years in the top 8 in the PDC and have a few goes at the PL then thats proper money these days
Well worth a go imo if todays performance was anything to go on. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 11, 2017, 10:38:49 PM if you can do 5 years in the top 8 in the PDC and have a few goes at the PL then thats proper money these days Well worth a go imo if todays performance was anything to go on. Yeah for sure. There are two reasons why he hasn’t switched, he has a well paying day job and his age. If he was 10 years younger then i’m sure he would have already switched. He may still do it but switching is a bigger call for him than it is for the vast majority of players. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 11, 2017, 11:06:15 PM Yeah I guess a good call for him is to have another BDO, if he wins at lakeside again then another 100 bags and give it a spin in the PDC, seems reasonable strategy.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 12, 2017, 09:17:23 AM Bad day for the BDO boys yesterday with only Duzza getting the W. Mitchell a bit unlucky as he played well but the likes of Hughes, McGeeney and Machin were poor. They were up against the top 8 seeds though so should have an easier time of it today.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on November 12, 2017, 11:24:06 AM Durrant at 2/1 looks like a wheelbarrow job for the BDO worlds.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 12, 2017, 03:06:22 PM Menzies looks like a switcher in January to me.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on November 12, 2017, 03:10:41 PM Menzies looks like a switcher in January to me. I was thinking exactly that while I was watching. He played decent to be fair and the crowd were eating his act up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on November 12, 2017, 04:24:36 PM Garry really is a class act
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 12, 2017, 04:39:20 PM Really really feel for that kid with the dartitus. Almost feels cruel to send him back up tomorrow night for his last group match but guess he has to.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 12, 2017, 08:54:33 PM Menzies looks like a switcher in January to me. I was thinking exactly that while I was watching. He played decent to be fair and the crowd were eating his act up. 20/1 for the bdo title? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 12, 2017, 09:21:05 PM Really really feel for that kid with the dartitus. Almost feels cruel to send him back up tomorrow night for his last group match but guess he has to. He can qualify if he wins! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 12, 2017, 09:33:09 PM King kong
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on November 12, 2017, 10:15:16 PM bwin still 1.25 Cross to be in the premier league this year if anyone can, has to be a lock now
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 12, 2017, 10:52:40 PM Love the grand slam, love it, so much fun.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 12, 2017, 11:33:04 PM Love the grand slam, love it, so much fun. This. Outside the Worlds it’s my favourite tournament of the year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 13, 2017, 04:32:16 PM Love the grand slam, love it, so much fun. This. Outside the Worlds it’s my favourite tournament of the year. how you doing betting bazza, been swinging quite aggressively here :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 13, 2017, 04:49:11 PM Love the grand slam, love it, so much fun. This. Outside the Worlds it’s my favourite tournament of the year. how you doing betting bazza, been swinging quite aggressively here :) Solid enough start. Had Cross to win his group at 5/1 so those two missed match darts last night hurt. Was also hot on Durrant to get out of his group and been opposing Cadby as he’s still being overrated given his current form. I have Menzies to qualify as well so will be tilted beyond belief if he goes and loses to a guy who can’t throw a dart. Match stuff has been up and down but variance always going to be high over a short format. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 13, 2017, 08:04:21 PM Menzies shit
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 13, 2017, 09:55:14 PM Chizzy is 16/5 match treble v bottom of group de zwaan who has fired in lots of maximums he is already out
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 13, 2017, 10:52:06 PM Rather unlucky
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 14, 2017, 12:36:27 AM Love the grand slam, love it, so much fun. This. Outside the Worlds it’s my favourite tournament of the year. how you doing betting bazza, been swinging quite aggressively here :) Solid enough start. Had Cross to win his group at 5/1 so those two missed match darts last night hurt. Was also hot on Durrant to get out of his group and been opposing Cadby as he’s still being overrated given his current form. I have Menzies to qualify as well so will be tilted beyond belief if he goes and loses to a guy who can’t throw a dart. Match stuff has been up and down but variance always going to be high over a short format. I mean losing would have been bad enough but losing in that manner. Never ends. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 17, 2017, 11:12:31 AM What a quarter final lineup :)
We got #1-#5 in the world rankings, the hottest player of the year in Rob Cross, the greatest player ever in his retirement year Phil Taylor and the best player from the BDO Glenn Durrant. Cool rankings tussle between PW and Gary, Gary trailing by £26k atm, the difference between semi and final is £26.5k, they are odds on to face each other in the semi and looks like it'll just be a shootout for the World #2 spot. Gary has an easier draw than PW in the Players too, obvious benefits to being world #2 is that you won't face MVG till the final at the worlds - Gary will say he doesn't care when he faces him, but with £350k to defend this Xmas, Gary losing to MVG in the semi's and PW making the final would put a near £400k gap between them and given what a grinder PW that's a lot to make up! Rob Cross now just £6k off bunting in world #20, got himself a great draw at the players, what an absolute boss. I think most likely he'll start off world #20 at the worlds deep run at the worlds (which you have to fancy) puts him in the top 16 first yr on tour, no money to defend next year and much easier draws, if he repeats this form next next year he'll have a very real chance of being world top 5-3 in Jan '19 23 months after getting his tour card, will take some repeating that will. 3 things are sure in this life though - Death, Taxes and MVG will be world #1 for a while longer. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 17, 2017, 06:01:25 PM As great as he has been in this tournament I wouldn't trust Anderson tonight sub 1.4 vs the unflappable Gentle Giant.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 18, 2017, 12:11:37 AM Thought that was a thoroughly decent game, Mensur is a boss but Gary is just utter, utter business.
Once in a blue moon I disagree with arbboy but I cannot wait for the PL. Get fkn rid of Huybrechts, Klaasan, Wade, and get Cross Gurney and Mensur in, these guys throwing 98+ every week and are actually fun to watch (gurney a little less so) I used to think Mensur was boring but love him now, crazy facial expressions, barmey interviews and that running headbutt celebration are incredible for morale. Can throw some darts too even if his action does look Like a drunk throwing a dart from the other side of the pub....no idea how he gets em anywhere near where he's aiming them. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on November 18, 2017, 09:31:05 AM Havnt understood one word of his interviews this week, but it doesnt matter cause you can tell he just loves the arraaas
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 18, 2017, 10:27:17 AM Havnt understood one word of his interviews this week, but it doesnt matter cause you can tell he just loves the arraaas He's like that whacky uncle you never really see, you think he's gonna be horrible because of what your mum says about him but you have a few drinks with him at a wedding and he turns out to be a massive legend. Love Mensur,been legit world class this year, he's perfect for the Premier League imo would be criminal for him not to be involved. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 18, 2017, 09:54:14 PM I just know Taylor isn't going to retire
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 18, 2017, 10:18:17 PM How can you play like and think about retirement? Just play the PL and the Majors make £300k a yr.
Rob Cross is now a straight 1.01 for the PL Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Doobs on November 19, 2017, 01:07:18 PM Dare say you could make a thread of these
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAqe8v8qGX8 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 19, 2017, 03:40:03 PM Lost his head Phil, great to watch though, I think it's a combination of 1) being somewhat narcissistic in general, 2) strategy (mind games) and 3) he's just having fun fucking about with people.
Mostly 1 and 2 for sure. POOR THAT MAN A FUCKING GLASS OF WATER. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on November 19, 2017, 03:40:31 PM Really hope he doesn't retire if only to keep him out of punditry for another year.
Dominant performance vs Gurney to rival any of the towelings doled out by MVG over the years. Still a tosser though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 19, 2017, 03:53:58 PM Surprisingly humble interview from MVG there, you could tell he was trying to hide the smugness :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on November 19, 2017, 04:29:01 PM Really hope he doesn't retire if only to keep him out of punditry for another year. We'll that thought takes the shine off his retirement. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on November 19, 2017, 05:23:00 PM Surprisingly humble interview from MVG there, you could tell he was trying to hide the smugness :) No idea what the incident he was referring to in the game? What was Taylor getting upset about? He is just a very poor loser in my humble opinion. Phil only sings when he's winning. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 19, 2017, 07:36:37 PM yeh, i'm gonna miss Phil, and he's gonna miss all this stuff soooooo much
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on November 19, 2017, 07:58:08 PM Different vid to the one Doobs posted
00:42 is rofl YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik_Ww0VMO8g Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 19, 2017, 09:24:48 PM Phil's just seeing how much he can wind anyone he might play at the worlds up isn't he, think he just loves these gritty, needly games and wants every game at the worlds to b ea grudge match :D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Doobs on November 19, 2017, 09:38:50 PM Phil's just seeing how much he can wind anyone he might play at the worlds up isn't he, think he just loves these gritty, needly games and wants every game at the worlds to b ea grudge match :D Reckon if I played darts, there'd be zero chance I'd be pouring hin a glass of water any time soon. I was thinking I'd seen peak Phil Taylor in that first vid, but it has already been bettered. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on November 19, 2017, 10:16:56 PM Taylor was first on stage so wtf is he on about he should have poured the drinks if anyone did, he actually stood at the side of the stage for Gurneys walk on.
It's not even mind games anymore he's just a massive narcissistic tool. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 20, 2017, 10:04:23 AM Ha, so true.
Say in an interview you dont think the guy is the future of darts, walk on first & don't pour any water, hide off-stage during his walk-on totally mugging him off, then completely slag him off after the game because he didn't pour you a glass a of water! He's not exactly bowing out gracefully is he :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 20, 2017, 01:12:43 PM Rankings fallout from the Grand Slam!
Gary Anderson really, a win in the Semi vs PW would have put him £500 ahead of PW with an easier draw in the players and him just needing to match snakebite to go into the WC as world #2 when he has £350k to defend compared to PW's £80k, and a bad performance at the WC's will put him back in the 8-3 rankings spot, now he's £52.5k behind and ONLY a win in the players will get him his #2 spot back. He has a pretty straight forward route to the 1/4s where he he's likely to then face Mensur/Cross/MVG if he wants to win it, tall order for him, the players is an absolutely gruelling tournament too and an absolute snake-pit of potential troubles. The 4th/5th/6th/7th/8th place battle is quite intriguing - Mensur in 5th will kick of with £363k, Phil will go up 1 place in the rankings at £360k, Lewis will drop to #7 on £340k and Chizzy #8 with £338,500. Gurney is gonna start in #4 on £400k and knows ONLY a Mensur Win here will knock him of world #4 and mean he can avoid MVG till the semi's, and with a £325k headstart on Gary in the worlds he could have a legit shot at #3. Mensur knows as long as Chizzy or Lewis don't make the semi's he'll lock up world #5 for the worlds. The battle for #7 between chizzy and lewis, Chizzy needs to out-perform Lewis to lock up #7, or a 1/4 final result will mean he over-takes Phil and if Lewis doesn't make it to the 1/4's (he has Rob Cross in the 3rd round...) then Chizzy will end up in #6 - chizzy has a manageable draw here, likely be Kyle Anderson in rnd 3 which might just end up being a straight shoot-out for him between #8 and #6, Lewis might bust round 3 and hold onto #7 in the rankings. If ever Lewis needed a triumphant return to form, it's starting Friday! Whitlock really screwed up at the Grand Slam, defending £0 he had an actual chance to make up even £10k on the top 8, he's gonna start this comp on £298k, a good £40k behind Chizzy, only a win gets him in the top 8 for the worlds, whereas with a £10-15k extra on there and the three above him either in no form or not playing he might have a very good chance at getting his nose in the top 8. Now his worries are more about looking over his shoulders. Barney is going to move above him on £303k and looked miles sharper at the GS. Barneys draw is pretty tricky, Ian White Rd 1, Darren Johnson/Big Hendo rd2, Cullen rd 3, Cross rd 4, gary semi and MVG final his most liekly route to victory, Whitlock on the other hand has a horrible draw, with Smith in rd 2, Wright in rnd3 and MVG in the 1/4s. Saving grace for Whitlock is Kist seems to be injured and RVB has a nasty opener vs Ian White. Just behind them, Klaasen gonna start on £290k, Wade £287k and Smith £284k all three have pretty tough draws and Klaasen and Wade bang out of form, Smith looked a lot handier this week, if he can get himself to the 1/4 finals (will have to get past Wright) then he'll have a good chance of jumping over 1 or both of these two, he's going to fancy his chances of out-doing these guys at the worlds so every penny he can get ahead of them will be valuable. The next cool Rankings tussle is right behind them again, Benito is holding onto his #14 and will start with £263.5k - Alan Norris who's somehow turned a terrible year of form into a climb up the rankings will start on £258k. Benito has Bunting rnd1, then Mensur rnd 2, whereas Norris has Jelle rd 1 and Beaton/Huybrechts rnd 2, great spot for Norris to have a go at world #14 and given how well he's played on stage this yr he might be able to get himself up towards the top 10 given how everyone above him is defending money and playing poorly. He'll be really kicking himself he missed that D20 to KO PW and get himself out of the group at the GS, where he'd have played Bunting/Durrant... Right at the bottom end of the top 16 is Gerwyn Price, his GS group stage managed to nick him in the top 16 ahead of Ian White, he's going to start #16 on £242,750 and Ian White is going to start on £236,750 in #17 and right on his tail will be Kim Huybrechts in #18 on £234,250 as you can imagine they all have pretty tough draws but anyone of these with a decent run could jump back into the top 16 which is huge for the Worlds.... Final piece of Rankings puzzle ahead of the worlds is the man of the year...Rob Cross. He's back in #21 with £188,250 - his eyes will really be on the top 16, and 16/17/18 will be under-dogs to add more than £5k to their totals so if he can finish on £247k he'll have done the impossible and got to the top 16 in the world BEFORE the worlds in his maiden year. Unfortunately for Voltage, only a win will see him in there, his draw is nice, should have a smooth run to the semi's where he's liekly to face Gary. A defeat in the semi's is probably not going to be enough to get him past Joe Cullen in the #19 so most likely he's going to go into the world as World #19, phenomenal. Will be a lot of people wobbling around the mid top 16 who will be keeping a close eye on where he ends up, the last thign you want if you're a Wade/Smith/Klaasen/Lewis/Barney or even Gary with all that prize money to defend is a 2nd round or 3rd round game vs Rob Cross! Big weekend coming up ! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 20, 2017, 04:13:21 PM Voltage is potentially a huge problem on the horizon for Anderson. It looks like there is a real chance they meet in the last 16. Anderson would be a very short price to progress past everyone else that’s in and around Voltage in the rankings. When you are defending chunks the last thing you need is coming up against a top 5 player in all but name in the last 16.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 20, 2017, 06:05:13 PM Yeah, Rob Cross going to be a thorn in someones side...
Gary will have to keep his eyes VERY close on Joe Cullen in this weekends tournament, Joe Cullen has a £27.5k lead over Rob Cross in world #19, luckily for Gary Joe isn't defending any money and has a nice run to the 3rd round where he'll pick up £8k, Barney/White/Darren Johnson/Big Hendo are his R3 opponents, if he can get through to the 1/4s he'll face Rob Cross himself, if Joe Cullen can get past Cross to the semis, then he'll have done Garry a MASSIVE favour, as it means Rob Cross will start in #20 (or #21 if Bunting has some sort of hero run) and wont be in Gary's half. If Joe Cullen loses to Rob in the the 1/4s then Gary will have to do his own dirty work! As long as Cullen makes rnd 3, Garry should be pretty safe. Gary will want to beat RC in the semis though as that will a) keep him on pace with PW and b) mean Cross will start world #20... If all goes well for Gary then the problems pass to Gurny and Mensur, who will be on route to face him in Rounds 3 and the 1.4s respectively, then a semi final with MVG. Would be very favourable for Gary to have Cross have to play the two guys chasing his world #3 spot down, and then his main title rival in the semi. Fine Margins this week, everyone bar MVG has there eyes somewhere... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 20, 2017, 07:41:07 PM Cross Would go off fave against everyone bar mvg Anderson, possibly taylor?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 20, 2017, 08:22:17 PM @ the bookies he'd start as a dog to Peter Wright, and I'd be backing him.
Interesting one vs Taylor, will let someone else answer that before I commit to an answer :)up Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 20, 2017, 08:34:07 PM Depends if he poured him a drink or not.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 20, 2017, 08:39:46 PM Vs mvg in the grand slam, in first to 16, taylor went off shortest, followed by cross, and Wright was a lot bigger
That may not mean much, Wright record against mvg on tv etc, what would cross Wright odds be Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 20, 2017, 10:59:33 PM I see Terry Jenkins is still 31 in the world.
Any chance he keeps his ranking and plays in the Worlds? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 21, 2017, 09:02:06 AM I see Terry Jenkins is still 31 in the world. Any chance he keeps his ranking and plays in the Worlds? No, impossible for him to be in the top 32 for the worlds unfortunately. Love the Bull, hilarious story - when I lived in Leeds with Middy and Pab we were inches away from hiring him to do an exhibition at our house for Pab's birthday! What a legendary thing that would have been. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 21, 2017, 01:17:28 PM Not written by me, from a LUFC forum but sounds about right...
"So.... Taylor - first hand I was at the semis yesterday and as always got the seat bang at the front. I thought it would be a bit of a laugh to try and needle "The Power" a bit I had a number of signs - WACCOE, Monk What's The Score etc. plus following the Gurney spat a"How's Your Water Phil?" I planned on MVG cheerleading to counter the audience of Stokies. Phil went 1-0 up and I held up the "How's Your Water Phil?" and he pointed - held up the water and said fine thanks... very funny Then at 2-2 MVG levelled I jumped up, punched the air and shouted "Yes" at which point he pointed at me and said "Did you just give me the finger?" I replied "No, but I will do later" 3-2 - at the break one of the security called me over..... At this point, I'll point out that it's always the same security at the front in the same places.. I've chatted with them through the tourney over the years and to a man, they can't stand Taylor and have given me various stories about his attitude. The guy then says that Taylor has requested I be ejected - security had said they would if I crossed the line but to date hadn't... my man said "Just watch yourself" And so it went on - Taylor pointing at me every time I started an MVG chant or cheered, shaking his head etc.... I made sure I was silent on his throws and toed the line. At about Leg 20's break they left the stage, again my man said he'd asked for me to be removed and again they said they couldn't. Leg 21 - the female security took my "How's Your Water Phil?" off me saying "It's putting Phil off!" - I replaced it with "Taxi For Taylor" He stormed off at the end, I was miffed because I was hoping to get the signed board!!!! As we were drinking up, the walk on security came over and asked "Which one of you was winding up Taylor?" - "Me, I said" - he then shook my hand and said "Nice one!"" Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 21, 2017, 01:50:29 PM Rankings fallout from the Grand Slam! Gary Anderson really, a win in the Semi vs PW would have put him £500 ahead of PW with an easier draw in the players and him just needing to match snakebite to go into the WC as world #2 when he has £350k to defend compared to PW's £80k, and a bad performance at the WC's will put him back in the 8-3 rankings spot, now he's £52.5k behind and ONLY a win in the players will get him his #2 spot back. He has a pretty straight forward route to the 1/4s where he he's likely to then face Mensur/Cross/MVG if he wants to win it, tall order for him, the players is an absolutely gruelling tournament too and an absolute snake-pit of potential troubles. The 4th/5th/6th/7th/8th place battle is quite intriguing - Mensur in 5th will kick of with £363k, Phil will go up 1 place in the rankings at £360k, Lewis will drop to #7 on £340k and Chizzy #8 with £338,500. Gurney is gonna start in #4 on £400k and knows ONLY a Mensur Win here will knock him of world #4 and mean he can avoid MVG till the semi's, and with a £325k headstart on Gary in the worlds he could have a legit shot at #3. Mensur knows as long as Chizzy or Lewis don't make the semi's he'll lock up world #5 for the worlds. The battle for #7 between chizzy and lewis, Chizzy needs to out-perform Lewis to lock up #7, or a 1/4 final result will mean he over-takes Phil and if Lewis doesn't make it to the 1/4's (he has Rob Cross in the 3rd round...) then Chizzy will end up in #6 - chizzy has a manageable draw here, likely be Kyle Anderson in rnd 3 which might just end up being a straight shoot-out for him between #8 and #6, Lewis might bust round 3 and hold onto #7 in the rankings. If ever Lewis needed a triumphant return to form, it's starting Friday! Whitlock really screwed up at the Grand Slam, defending £0 he had an actual chance to make up even £10k on the top 8, he's gonna start this comp on £298k, a good £40k behind Chizzy, only a win gets him in the top 8 for the worlds, whereas with a £10-15k extra on there and the three above him either in no form or not playing he might have a very good chance at getting his nose in the top 8. Now his worries are more about looking over his shoulders. Barney is going to move above him on £303k and looked miles sharper at the GS. Barneys draw is pretty tricky, Ian White Rd 1, Darren Johnson/Big Hendo rd2, Cullen rd 3, Cross rd 4, gary semi and MVG final his most liekly route to victory, Whitlock on the other hand has a horrible draw, with Smith in rd 2, Wright in rnd3 and MVG in the 1/4s. Saving grace for Whitlock is Kist seems to be injured and RVB has a nasty opener vs Ian White. Just behind them, Klaasen gonna start on £290k, Wade £287k and Smith £284k all three have pretty tough draws and Klaasen and Wade bang out of form, Smith looked a lot handier this week, if he can get himself to the 1/4 finals (will have to get past Wright) then he'll have a good chance of jumping over 1 or both of these two, he's going to fancy his chances of out-doing these guys at the worlds so every penny he can get ahead of them will be valuable. The next cool Rankings tussle is right behind them again, Benito is holding onto his #14 and will start with £263.5k - Alan Norris who's somehow turned a terrible year of form into a climb up the rankings will start on £258k. Benito has Bunting rnd1, then Mensur rnd 2, whereas Norris has Jelle rd 1 and Beaton/Huybrechts rnd 2, great spot for Norris to have a go at world #14 and given how well he's played on stage this yr he might be able to get himself up towards the top 10 given how everyone above him is defending money and playing poorly. He'll be really kicking himself he missed that D20 to KO PW and get himself out of the group at the GS, where he'd have played Bunting/Durrant... Right at the bottom end of the top 16 is Gerwyn Price, his GS group stage managed to nick him in the top 16 ahead of Ian White, he's going to start #16 on £242,750 and Ian White is going to start on £236,750 in #17 and right on his tail will be Kim Huybrechts in #18 on £234,250 as you can imagine they all have pretty tough draws but anyone of these with a decent run could jump back into the top 16 which is huge for the Worlds.... Final piece of Rankings puzzle ahead of the worlds is the man of the year...Rob Cross. He's back in #21 with £188,250 - his eyes will really be on the top 16, and 16/17/18 will be under-dogs to add more than £5k to their totals so if he can finish on £247k he'll have done the impossible and got to the top 16 in the world BEFORE the worlds in his maiden year. Unfortunately for Voltage, only a win will see him in there, his draw is nice, should have a smooth run to the semi's where he's liekly to face Gary. A defeat in the semi's is probably not going to be enough to get him past Joe Cullen in the #19 so most likely he's going to go into the world as World #19, phenomenal. Will be a lot of people wobbling around the mid top 16 who will be keeping a close eye on where he ends up, the last thign you want if you're a Wade/Smith/Klaasen/Lewis/Barney or even Gary with all that prize money to defend is a 2nd round or 3rd round game vs Rob Cross! Big weekend coming up ! Great review/updates as ever Dave. Watched most of the event when i could whilst dealing with family issues so haven't had the easiest of weeks to post. Great event with some incredible matches all week. Can't have Gurney on my mind still at the very top level. He reminds me of a golden James Wade 10 years ago in some ways. Loved watching Taylor destroy him both on the stage and verbally/mentally. Will be interesting to see how DG reacts to it. Rob Cross looks a machine in the making. Lewis is going to need a miracle to stay relevant given the form of so many currently. Roll on the worlds. I am looking forward to the PL now given how much different it could look next year and that the standards could be as high as ever. Would love to see Smith have a good world's and get back into the PL. He looked insane against Ando for the first half of that match before getting destroyed. He would give the PL a much better go this time around i think. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 21, 2017, 01:53:06 PM https://www.pdc.tv/pdc-order-of-merit
The current order of merit above hasn't been updated for the GSOD so i doubt TJ is still in the top 32 given he didn't play last week. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: McGlashan on November 21, 2017, 04:19:17 PM Not written by me, from a LUFC forum but sounds about right... "So.... Taylor - first hand I was at the semis yesterday and as always got the seat bang at the front. I thought it would be a bit of a laugh to try and needle "The Power" a bit I had a number of signs - WACCOE, Monk What's The Score etc. plus following the Gurney spat a"How's Your Water Phil?" I planned on MVG cheerleading to counter the audience of Stokies. Phil went 1-0 up and I held up the "How's Your Water Phil?" and he pointed - held up the water and said fine thanks... very funny Then at 2-2 MVG levelled I jumped up, punched the air and shouted "Yes" at which point he pointed at me and said "Did you just give me the finger?" I replied "No, but I will do later" 3-2 - at the break one of the security called me over..... At this point, I'll point out that it's always the same security at the front in the same places.. I've chatted with them through the tourney over the years and to a man, they can't stand Taylor and have given me various stories about his attitude. The guy then says that Taylor has requested I be ejected - security had said they would if I crossed the line but to date hadn't... my man said "Just watch yourself" And so it went on - Taylor pointing at me every time I started an MVG chant or cheered, shaking his head etc.... I made sure I was silent on his throws and toed the line. At about Leg 20's break they left the stage, again my man said he'd asked for me to be removed and again they said they couldn't. Leg 21 - the female security took my "How's Your Water Phil?" off me saying "It's putting Phil off!" - I replaced it with "Taxi For Taylor" He stormed off at the end, I was miffed because I was hoping to get the signed board!!!! As we were drinking up, the walk on security came over and asked "Which one of you was winding up Taylor?" - "Me, I said" - he then shook my hand and said "Nice one!"" Brilliant. Thanks for sharing. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 21, 2017, 06:34:30 PM Rankings fallout from the Grand Slam! Gary Anderson really, a win in the Semi vs PW would have put him £500 ahead of PW with an easier draw in the players and him just needing to match snakebite to go into the WC as world #2 when he has £350k to defend compared to PW's £80k, and a bad performance at the WC's will put him back in the 8-3 rankings spot, now he's £52.5k behind and ONLY a win in the players will get him his #2 spot back. He has a pretty straight forward route to the 1/4s where he he's likely to then face Mensur/Cross/MVG if he wants to win it, tall order for him, the players is an absolutely gruelling tournament too and an absolute snake-pit of potential troubles. The 4th/5th/6th/7th/8th place battle is quite intriguing - Mensur in 5th will kick of with £363k, Phil will go up 1 place in the rankings at £360k, Lewis will drop to #7 on £340k and Chizzy #8 with £338,500. Gurney is gonna start in #4 on £400k and knows ONLY a Mensur Win here will knock him of world #4 and mean he can avoid MVG till the semi's, and with a £325k headstart on Gary in the worlds he could have a legit shot at #3. Mensur knows as long as Chizzy or Lewis don't make the semi's he'll lock up world #5 for the worlds. The battle for #7 between chizzy and lewis, Chizzy needs to out-perform Lewis to lock up #7, or a 1/4 final result will mean he over-takes Phil and if Lewis doesn't make it to the 1/4's (he has Rob Cross in the 3rd round...) then Chizzy will end up in #6 - chizzy has a manageable draw here, likely be Kyle Anderson in rnd 3 which might just end up being a straight shoot-out for him between #8 and #6, Lewis might bust round 3 and hold onto #7 in the rankings. If ever Lewis needed a triumphant return to form, it's starting Friday! Whitlock really screwed up at the Grand Slam, defending £0 he had an actual chance to make up even £10k on the top 8, he's gonna start this comp on £298k, a good £40k behind Chizzy, only a win gets him in the top 8 for the worlds, whereas with a £10-15k extra on there and the three above him either in no form or not playing he might have a very good chance at getting his nose in the top 8. Now his worries are more about looking over his shoulders. Barney is going to move above him on £303k and looked miles sharper at the GS. Barneys draw is pretty tricky, Ian White Rd 1, Darren Johnson/Big Hendo rd2, Cullen rd 3, Cross rd 4, gary semi and MVG final his most liekly route to victory, Whitlock on the other hand has a horrible draw, with Smith in rd 2, Wright in rnd3 and MVG in the 1/4s. Saving grace for Whitlock is Kist seems to be injured and RVB has a nasty opener vs Ian White. Just behind them, Klaasen gonna start on £290k, Wade £287k and Smith £284k all three have pretty tough draws and Klaasen and Wade bang out of form, Smith looked a lot handier this week, if he can get himself to the 1/4 finals (will have to get past Wright) then he'll have a good chance of jumping over 1 or both of these two, he's going to fancy his chances of out-doing these guys at the worlds so every penny he can get ahead of them will be valuable. The next cool Rankings tussle is right behind them again, Benito is holding onto his #14 and will start with £263.5k - Alan Norris who's somehow turned a terrible year of form into a climb up the rankings will start on £258k. Benito has Bunting rnd1, then Mensur rnd 2, whereas Norris has Jelle rd 1 and Beaton/Huybrechts rnd 2, great spot for Norris to have a go at world #14 and given how well he's played on stage this yr he might be able to get himself up towards the top 10 given how everyone above him is defending money and playing poorly. He'll be really kicking himself he missed that D20 to KO PW and get himself out of the group at the GS, where he'd have played Bunting/Durrant... Right at the bottom end of the top 16 is Gerwyn Price, his GS group stage managed to nick him in the top 16 ahead of Ian White, he's going to start #16 on £242,750 and Ian White is going to start on £236,750 in #17 and right on his tail will be Kim Huybrechts in #18 on £234,250 as you can imagine they all have pretty tough draws but anyone of these with a decent run could jump back into the top 16 which is huge for the Worlds.... Final piece of Rankings puzzle ahead of the worlds is the man of the year...Rob Cross. He's back in #21 with £188,250 - his eyes will really be on the top 16, and 16/17/18 will be under-dogs to add more than £5k to their totals so if he can finish on £247k he'll have done the impossible and got to the top 16 in the world BEFORE the worlds in his maiden year. Unfortunately for Voltage, only a win will see him in there, his draw is nice, should have a smooth run to the semi's where he's liekly to face Gary. A defeat in the semi's is probably not going to be enough to get him past Joe Cullen in the #19 so most likely he's going to go into the world as World #19, phenomenal. Will be a lot of people wobbling around the mid top 16 who will be keeping a close eye on where he ends up, the last thign you want if you're a Wade/Smith/Klaasen/Lewis/Barney or even Gary with all that prize money to defend is a 2nd round or 3rd round game vs Rob Cross! Big weekend coming up ! Great review/updates as ever Dave. Watched most of the event when i could whilst dealing with family issues so haven't had the easiest of weeks to post. Great event with some incredible matches all week. Can't have Gurney on my mind still at the very top level. He reminds me of a golden James Wade 10 years ago in some ways. Loved watching Taylor destroy him both on the stage and verbally/mentally. Will be interesting to see how DG reacts to it. Rob Cross looks a machine in the making. Lewis is going to need a miracle to stay relevant given the form of so many currently. Roll on the worlds. I am looking forward to the PL now given how much different it could look next year and that the standards could be as high as ever. Would love to see Smith have a good world's and get back into the PL. He looked insane against Ando for the first half of that match before getting destroyed. He would give the PL a much better go this time around i think. I’m not sure he would. Bags of talent but really lacking mentally. That game v Anderson summed him up. Hecwas playing like a dream and then Anderson pinged a big finish as he was waiting on a double and he then went to pieces. Unless he flew out of the traps with some soft early fixtures I think it would be more of the same from him in the PL. He lacks the belief of someone like Cross. It will be interesting to see how DG responds. Clearly there's more to the story between him and Phil but he didn’t half crumble. That’s the first pasting he has had in a long time. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 21, 2017, 10:23:32 PM Feel like DG hasn't quite adapted to life in the winners circle yet, hasn't quite gained respect of the big lads. Phil started mugging him off and he just fell to pieces. Think a similar thing happened to PW after the UK open.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 21, 2017, 10:28:31 PM Feel like DG hasn't quite adapted to life in the winners circle yet, hasn't quite gained respect of the big lads. Phil started mugging him off and he just fell to pieces. Think a similar thing happened to PW after the UK open. Wes Newton by 2020 hopefully! His stay at the elite level will be short and sweet hopefully. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 22, 2017, 09:48:36 AM I think Gurney has a lot more going for him than Wes Newton, his action is super reliable and the big difference this last 12 and in particular the last 5 or 6 months is his finishing, I think his scoring will always stay strong and if he keeps his finishing at 38%+ and learns to close games out he'll stay world class for sure.
Think the big difference between him and Rob Cross is Rob Cross has this zip in his game, this edge that Gurney's missing, if he gets a bit more ruthless he'll be a major player for a long time. Phil is probably right btw, if the big guy was managing him he'd be different animal. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 24, 2017, 09:10:57 AM lets goooooooooo Players, big fan of this tournament, men from boys this one :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on November 24, 2017, 11:28:04 AM Love the darts, not got Sky Sports?
Now TV got a black Friday offer for 2 months of Sky Sports for 1 (£33.99). Get it today and will cover you for the world championships. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 25, 2017, 10:00:23 PM some good news for the first time 12 months for James Wade!
Barney, Smith, Whitlock, Klaasen, Benito all out in Rd1 or 2, and Wade into the quarters, a huge step in his bid to consolidate the top 16 and perhaps even make a run back into the top 10. The bad news is all Gary's, should Cross final (which is looking pretty likely) and should he lose to MVG (which is looking pretty likely) Cross will be #19 and play Gary in rnd 3 at the worlds! if he wins, he'd go to world #14!!!!!! Chizzy, Whitlock, Barney, Klaasen, Smith, Huybrechts, Norris, Price will all be banging their heads into the walls. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 27, 2017, 02:05:20 PM some good news for the first time 12 months for James Wade! Barney, Smith, Whitlock, Klaasen, Benito all out in Rd1 or 2, and Wade into the quarters, a huge step in his bid to consolidate the top 16 and perhaps even make a run back into the top 10. The bad news is all Gary's, should Cross final (which is looking pretty likely) and should he lose to MVG (which is looking pretty likely) Cross will be #19 and play Gary in rnd 3 at the worlds! if he wins, he'd go to world #14!!!!!! Chizzy, Whitlock, Barney, Klaasen, Smith, Huybrechts, Norris, Price will all be banging their heads into the walls. Would you agree that the darts seeding system/draw is far inferior to the tennis version. In tennis, the only set spots in the draw are one at the top and two at the bottom. Then it's random whether 3 goes into the top half or the bottom half. Same with 4. So you could have 1 v 3 and 2 v 4 in the semis or 1v4 and 2 v 3. The same thing happens with 5,6,7 and 8. One goes in each quarter. And so on down to 32. Seems a lot fairer, expecially when the world 1 is so far the best. World number 32 always plays MVG in the second round but world 31 will never face him until the final. Far better to be unseeded than world number 32 IMO. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 27, 2017, 05:27:28 PM some good news for the first time 12 months for James Wade! Barney, Smith, Whitlock, Klaasen, Benito all out in Rd1 or 2, and Wade into the quarters, a huge step in his bid to consolidate the top 16 and perhaps even make a run back into the top 10. The bad news is all Gary's, should Cross final (which is looking pretty likely) and should he lose to MVG (which is looking pretty likely) Cross will be #19 and play Gary in rnd 3 at the worlds! if he wins, he'd go to world #14!!!!!! Chizzy, Whitlock, Barney, Klaasen, Smith, Huybrechts, Norris, Price will all be banging their heads into the walls. Would you agree that the darts seeding system/draw is far inferior to the tennis version. In tennis, the only set spots in the draw are one at the top and two at the bottom. Then it's random whether 3 goes into the top half or the bottom half. Same with 4. So you could have 1 v 3 and 2 v 4 in the semis or 1v4 and 2 v 3. The same thing happens with 5,6,7 and 8. One goes in each quarter. And so on down to 32. Seems a lot fairer, expecially when the world 1 is so far the best. World number 32 always plays MVG in the second round but world 31 will never face him until the final. Far better to be unseeded than world number 32 IMO. Given the rankings are relatively fluid I’m not sure what the issue is? Using your scenario MVG could face Anderson in the semi with Wright facing Gurney which is unfair. Surely as number 1 you have earnt the right to face the weakest opponent in terms of ranking. I’ve never quite understood why tennis is like it is. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on November 27, 2017, 05:42:04 PM The tennis system means that players can't rig the draws - didn't we have a scenario where Whitlock was always 16th in the rankings because other players wanted to avoid a guaranteed 2nd round match with MVG in majors and so threw games in order to avoid being 16 and were happy to take their chances in the draw at 17 or 18.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 27, 2017, 07:53:40 PM The tennis system means that players can't rig the draws - didn't we have a scenario where Whitlock was always 16th in the rankings because other players wanted to avoid a guaranteed 2nd round match with MVG in majors and so threw games in order to avoid being 16 and were happy to take their chances in the draw at 17 or 18. Yeah that’s a fair point but i’d say instances of players tanking are rare. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on November 27, 2017, 08:29:22 PM Taylor vs Dobey first round.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Nakor on November 27, 2017, 08:42:31 PM Mervyn King v Zoran Lerchbacher
Dave Chisnall v Vincent van de Voort Joe Cullen v Jermaine Wattimena Michael van Gerwen v Christian Kist James Wade v Keegan Brown Steve Beaton v William O'Connor Alan Norris v Kim Vilanen Rob Cross v Siego Asada/Gordon Mathers Kyle Anderson v Peter Jaques Adrian Lewis v Aleksandr Oreshkin/Kevin Munch Michael Smith v Steve Lennon Daryl Gurney v Ronny Huybrechts Peter Wright v Diogo Portela Robert Thornton v Brendan Dolan/ Alan Ljubic Jelle Klaasen v Jan Dekker Simon Whitlock v Martin Schindler Gerwyn Price v Ted Evetts Jonny Clayton v Kenny Neyens/Jamie Lewis James Wilson v Krzystof Ratajski Justin Pipe v Xiao Chen Zong/Bernie Smith Cristo Reyes v Antonio Alcinas Darren Webster v Devon Petersen Mark Webster v Kai Fan Leung/Paul Lim Ian White v Willard Bruguier/Cody Harris Kim Huybrechts v James Richardson John Henderson v Marko Kantele Phil Taylor v Chris Dobey Mensur Suljovic v Kevin Painter Stephen Bunting v Dimitri van den Bergh Benito van de Pas v Steve West Gary Anderson v Jeff Smith/Luke Humphries Raymond van Barneveld v Richard North Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 27, 2017, 09:45:14 PM Clayton has a lovely draw doesn't he? Beat Peter Wright and he's going all the way!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 27, 2017, 09:52:03 PM Cross has a route of qualifier>smith>Gurney>suljovic>Mvg>anderson/Clayton
Ouch Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 27, 2017, 11:51:19 PM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_PDC_World_Darts_Championship
https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/winner Lewis has to be a bet at 50/1 ew 1/2 1,2 surely however out of form he is based on the draw? He is pretty blue everywhere on oddschecker but if he doesn't get his head down in the next month to practice he might as well retire now. Wright has new darts issues (still gifted a last 8 place on the draw however), Ando has numerous injury concerns. MVG, Cross, Chin, Barney, Chis, Smith, Sulv are all in the top half. It was always going to be lop sided draw wise but it is even more lop sided than i thought it would be. I think MVG is still a bet at 4/5 however and would also be backing Whitlock and Darren Webster are huge prices ew. Taylor for the miracle/mythical send off (according to camel) couldn't have a much better draw. Wouldn't fancy laying 12/1 ew taylor. MVG should surely be a shorter price than Taylor ever was for this event? His level of motivation and dominance month after month is incredible. 4/5 looks huge to me. His quarter is as soft as it could possibly be realistically to sail to the semis. Looks like a price war between skybet and the sponsors to see how can go biggest price MVG. I wouldnt be laying him much bigger than 2/5 tbh given his draw/form. Rob Cross has as bad a draw as he could possibly have given he has dodged the 'top 3' in the world and landed in the 'soft' quarter purely by chance. He looks a huge lay to me at the current prices, esp ew if i was a layer i would be laying the shit out of him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 28, 2017, 12:27:37 AM Lewis has the dream draw. He looked in half decent nick at the weekend so 50s can’t be bad given his course and distance form.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on November 28, 2017, 12:49:26 PM Lewis has the dream draw. He looked in half decent nick at the weekend so 50s can’t be bad given his course and distance form. I think he might come a cropper against Cristo Reyes in rd 2 who averaged 106 when losing to MVG 4-2 in the worlds last year and is one of the players who has the game to beat almost anyone on his day. (Also has the game to lose to almost anyone on his day but I like these sorts). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 28, 2017, 12:50:52 PM Cullen 2/5 to beat wattimena looks short
Van den berg 13/10 to beat bunting, buntings playing better than usual but still shit Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 28, 2017, 01:19:31 PM Lewis has the dream draw. He looked in half decent nick at the weekend so 50s can’t be bad given his course and distance form. I think he might come a cropper against Cristo Reyes in rd 2 who averaged 106 when losing to MVG 4-2 in the worlds last year and is one of the players who has the game to beat almost anyone on his day. (Also has the game to lose to almost anyone on his day but I like these sorts). He has been in woeful form for the past few months though. That said he definitely has a big game in him. He lost at the Players but should have won despite going 4-0 down. He played pretty well from then on before fluffing his lines in the decider. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 28, 2017, 04:29:39 PM https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/170-checkout
Possibly the best 1/33 shot of the year arrives just in time for xmas again. Given the length of the world's nowadays and the standard of play this really should be 1/500 surely? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 28, 2017, 04:35:05 PM https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/winning-quarter
Taking 4/6 about first quarter winning is probably marginally better than backing MVG at 4/5 (esp if you backing it on the machine with 5% commission) with Barney and Chis in there among all the other rags in that quarter. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: YorkshireSal on November 28, 2017, 04:36:08 PM No Anderson max each way this time?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 28, 2017, 04:41:03 PM No Anderson max each way this time? There probably isn't a bad ew bet in the bottom half of the table assuming you get 1/2 1,2 place terms and close to top price. Anderson at 7/1 with victor 1/2 1,2 is probably a no brainer maths wise. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 28, 2017, 04:41:52 PM https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/winning-quarter Taking 4/6 about first quarter winning is probably marginally better than backing MVG at 4/5 (esp if you backing it on the machine with 5% commission) with Barney and Chis in there among all the other rags in that quarter. Probably not far short of 1/33 MVG hits one. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on November 28, 2017, 04:42:59 PM Be shocked if Hills don't go EVS about MVG on the eve of the tournament starting.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 28, 2017, 04:47:34 PM bet365 have over 2.5 170 checkouts at 4/7. Max bet? Must be way shorter than 4/7 surely without having any stats in front of me. (edit there were 4 last year (3 were MVG) and 6 in 2016)
1/6 over 1.5 as well as 1/33 any 170 checkout. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on November 28, 2017, 07:04:42 PM 365 have MVG at 4/6 to win it, and 4/6 for the winner to come from his quarter, yet MVG is 1/8 to win his quarter.
How does that work? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 28, 2017, 08:02:15 PM It is incredibly hard to see how MVG gets beat by anyone at the moment, the standard he plays at can be reached, Gary/Rob Cross/Phil even Aidey Lewis can match him, but the sheer consistency he can perform like that at, and without ever failing the bigger the match, the better he plays. Last year in the semis/final he player 17 sets vs former world champs averaging 105 and 106 respectively and never looked for a minute like he'd get beat.
I think the only chance of him losing in reality is an early round headloss vs someone he thinks he can't lose to, I don't think Kist or Wilson are the ones for that job...MAYBE Krystof Ratajski MAYBE, can't see Ian White or Gerwyn Price being the ones either. Maybe Chizzy or Kyle have the game of their lives in the Semi - if he plays Barny you know Barney ALWAYS fancies a crack at MVG in the WC. Once he gets anywhere near the semis though it's game head on and he just never looks like he can be beat. Can't bet it at 4/6 though imo, as much as i think he'll win. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 02, 2017, 11:36:55 AM Rankings Rankings Rankings!!!!
The worlds is what it's all about, here's this years prize money... Winner £400,000 Runner-up £170,000 Semi-finalist £85,000 Quarter-finalist £40,000 Third round losers £27,000 Second round losers £18,500 First round losers £11,000 Preliminary round losers £4,500 Nine-dart finish £20,000 With rankings tight all over, just a quarter final showing and some no-shows around you could see anyone pretty much whizz up a fair few spots, it's also the time of the year when a few people are defending a chunky number, lets look at who's defending big money this Xmas and what it means for them... The four biggest sums are 1) Gary - £350k 2) Lewis - £150k, 3) Barney £70k and 4) Jelle £70k Gary has a very simple task ahead of him, Peter Wright is going to start the WC's ~£365k ahead of him, Daryl Gurney is going to start ~£28k ahead of him and mensur about £22k behind him. Gary needs to comfortably out perform Daryl and Mensur to keep a grip on his top 3 spot, and I think hopes of getting #2 back should just wait until the new year, a very early exit from PW and a win for Gary is the only way. Gary Anderson will only be looking one way in the rankings this Xmas and that will be backwards. On the opposite side of this particular rankings battle, Daryl Gurney and Mensur Suljovic only really need to look forwards, the pack behind them, Lewis is defending £150k, Phil could easily overtake either/both of them but he's a dead rubber in the rankings anyway after this, with Barney defending big and Whitlock quite far back anything other than a big meltdown & super deep run from Chizzy should probably see those 2 comfortabley hold their #4/#5 spots (excluding phil taylor) and they both have a great shot at world #3 next yr, Gurney in particular. Some good new for Adrian Lewis, for the first time in forever. He played well at the players, some several glimpses of his old self and his claims that he's non stop working look like they might even be true, added into the mix he has a really nice draw with a route he should be able to handle into the quarters, and we all know he loves these big stage events. However, it's not all good news, he's going to start the tournament about £50k outside of the world top 16, which means that a 1/4 final defeat to Peter Wright will likely not save his top 16 spot. A semi final spot though would probably get him close to the top 10, and after the year he's had that's a no harm done scenario. It's a huge ask for Lewis, out of practice, doubts about fitness, doubts about mental game, 40/1 1/2 odds EW when he has to play Wright and Anderson probably to get to the final vs MVG - not for me unfortunately, will be rooting for him but I think most likely he starts next year ranked 19th or something and then we see what he's made of. He could save his PL spot though with a decent showing, although maybe it would be good for him to skip it for a year, or maybe its his last £100k out of the game... hope not. Barney is another who will also start the tournament outside the top 16, he might also have a tough ask as his draw is dangerous, Richard North rd1, Kyle Anderson or Peter Jacques in rd2 chizzy rnd3 and MVG in the 1/4s. Big stage guy though barney and he knows how to pull it out, I think almost for certain a quarter final defeat to MVG would hold his top 16 spot but his volume of tour events unlikely to increase next year so its only a matter of time really before barney slips outside of the top 20, deep major run here and there will keep him afloat and he's a virtual lock for the PL and I think he's fairly content. Jelle probably in the deepest of troubles, he's going to start outside the top 16 too, and he's also got himself a minefield of a draw, Dekker rnd1, Bunting/Dimitri rnd2, Mensur rnd3, Cross/Gurney/Smith in the 1/4. Rnd 3 exit to mensur won't get him back into the top 16 and a 1/4 final will only just. The one good thing is form seems to be returning somewhat and he does grind it hard so I'd imagine fitness dependant he should be able to get himself back into the top 16 next year. The James Wade/Whitlock/Smith battle is pretty interesting too, Whitlock is in by far the best spot as he's going to start about £25k ahead, his form has really fallen though, at exactly the wrong time, Smith looked better recently but his draw is tough, Steve Lennon no gimme in rnd 1 and Cross in rnd2 is not what the doctor ordered, his £20k buffer over Norris and Benito is gonna go i think, good news for Smith is because of Lewis/Barny/Jelle/wade dropping below him and his £40k safety net over price in #16 his top 16 sot should be safe, Norris, Benito, Price, White, Huybrechts...all capable but probably no threat - needs to sort himself out though as next year I think he'll be right in that pack of players battling for 16/15/14. Wade might be ok, his draw is OK and if he plays like he did at the players then I think he will probably get to rd 3 and should hold his top 14 spot ok barring multiple big runs behind him. Will be great for his confidence to have a decent performance here and if he gets his head down on the pro tour next year then he could possibly get back into the top 10. I would say though he's more likely to be world #28 than world number #8 next year. Joe Cullen, Kim Huybrechts, Ian White, Gerwyn Price. Currently world 19/18/17/16. The good news for them is they are defending £10k each so are going to start the event with no decrease really, Alan Norris (#15) and Benito (#14) are defending £35k and £22k respectively and will start well in the thick of this battle, as will Micheal Smith (#13) they do however have, as do most, the Rob cross problem, the man in probably the second best form in the world defending £0 and charging them down. There is a £20-40k buffer between this group and King/Kyle/Webster/Bunting below them so I think the danger is not from behind the pack but within, good chances for any of these 4 to put in a good showing and fire themselves well up towards the top 10, just as a bad showing could see the pack break off and them be left looking over their shoulders at 20-25 whilst everyone else pushes for top 12. White and Price likely playing each other in rnd2 before a MVG showdown in rnd3, so doesn't look for for them, Huybrechts and Norris likely to play each other in rnd2 as well but they have some potentially nasty openers against James Richardson (who is super dangerous in short formats) and Kim Viljanen who is incredibly solid. Cullen's draw not great, Wattimena rnd1, Benito/Steve West rnd 2 and then Gary Rnd 3. Going to take a good showing from one of them but a great chance for someone to Power ahead. Special mention to Chizzy, he's got himself a little island in #8, Barney going to drop way off and Lewis going to fall behind him so will start world #7, he doesn't have a great deal to defend (£22k) but the gap between him and Whitlock will close and there is very little sign of him making any inroads on Mensur and Gurney. Chizzy is safe for now, but with this tight pack behind the top 10 where a slip can see you slide 5-6 places he really doesn't want to be in that, and Rob Cross - how far will he go? Smith rnd2, Gurney rnd3 Mensur in the 1/4s and MVG in the semis, I guess a rnd3 defeat to Gurney would be very disappointing for him, and it wouldn't GTE him a top 16 spot either, dpending on how everyone else does. A lot of people will breathe a sigh of relief if he busts before the 1/4s. A semi final loss to MVG would give him a very legit top10 chance. The last great rankings topic is Phil Taylor, somewhat incredible that a man who has played 2 ranking events this year will kick off in world #6, only £22k coming off, a very comfortable route to the 1/4s, where he's going to come across Gary Anderson - in reality this will probably be his last ever WC game... but he's almost for sure going to retire inside the world top 6. Pretty amazing, don't think anyone could root against a Phil Taylor win in this event, Gary in the 1/4 and PW in the semis and both beatable if you're Phil...don't bet against it. As far as outright bets go, I don't think with Gary's Phil/PW/MVG 1/4s>Win route 6/1 1/2 odds can be a a big print, he's under 3/1 to final im sure but over 6/1 to win, a lot of danger about and doubts over form, not the shot to nothing it has been in previous year. Rob Cross @ 12/1 is just a joke really - the guy is incredible but he's totally unproven in this format and has a tough draw, like Arb says, big lay. With most of the top players outside the faves falling into MVG's half (mensur/gurney/cross/barney etc) the EW value needs to come from the bottom half... as much as I hate to say it I think if i was looking for an EW spot, then PW at 12/1 with 1/2 odds is probably the one, Lewis in the 1/4s and then Gary/Phil in the semi but his first few games could pose some problems, the BRazilian Portolo is pretty handy and Clayton rmd2 and then Norris/Huybrechts/Richardson etc rnd 3 are not pushovers. As I said, I don't think i can get on board with Lewis @ 40s as much as I'd like too. Mvg just going to be too hard to beat :( Should be a fascinating tournament i just CANNOT WAIT!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 13, 2017, 10:33:44 PM Kid on Xmas morning........
Any punting to be done on opening night lads? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 14, 2017, 09:29:04 AM will let you know, got a feeling punting will be getting done :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 14, 2017, 11:57:16 AM So what we on boys?
Got a chunk on Ando/MvG final as one of the Scuy offers. Don't know much about Wilson's opponent tonight. Anything to be aware of? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 14, 2017, 12:28:11 PM So what we on boys? Got a chunk on Ando/MvG final as one of the Scuy offers. Don't know much about Wilson's opponent tonight. Anything to be aware of? Hes good. At work we nicknamed him the Polish Van Gerwen around 18 months ago, can't fully remember why but I remember him taking out huge checkouts for fun. Think the prices in that match are about right and it might go quite deep. Because of this, I quite like Bet Victors 7/2 on Wilson getting the most 180s on the night. He was a maximum machine in the Grand Prix despite going out in the group stages and the hope for this bet would be that Van Gerwens match doesn't last long. Ted Evetts is an interesting one vs Gerwyn Price. Ted averaged 106 in one of his matches when winning the qualifying event, scoring huge all day and Gerwyn Price has never won a match at the worlds. Then again, Superted hasn't been overly consistent on the youth tour and as much as I despise him, Price is pretty solid. Maybe a bit of value on Ted @ 9/4 but not too much. Maybe a double on the over legs??? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 14, 2017, 01:36:09 PM So what we on boys? Got a chunk on Ando/MvG final as one of the Scuy offers. Don't know much about Wilson's opponent tonight. Anything to be aware of? Hes good. At work we nicknamed him the Polish Van Gerwen around 18 months ago, can't fully remember why but I remember him taking out huge checkouts for fun. Think the prices in that match are about right and it might go quite deep. Because of this, I quite like Bet Victors 7/2 on Wilson getting the most 180s on the night. He was a maximum machine in the Grand Prix despite going out in the group stages and the hope for this bet would be that Van Gerwens match doesn't last long. Ted Evetts is an interesting one vs Gerwyn Price. Ted averaged 106 in one of his matches when winning the qualifying event, scoring huge all day and Gerwyn Price has never won a match at the worlds. Then again, Superted hasn't been overly consistent on the youth tour and as much as I despise him, Price is pretty solid. Maybe a bit of value on Ted @ 9/4 but not too much. Maybe a double on the over legs??? Wilson was throwing with a much more fluid action at the GSOD and Players than he had previously so I like him to keep smashing the 180s I fancy that to be a really good match. The Pole probably nicking as Wilson can be flaky on his doubles Super Ted is going to be a star and probably still a bit of value at 9/4 against Price whose bark is a lot worse than his bite these days. I liked the early prices on O’Connor but it’s been knocked in to line now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 14, 2017, 06:25:43 PM O'connor looked good at the players and has been threatening a breakthrough several times, opening the World Champs against a seasoned pro though might be a bit too much for him this time round so agree if you missed the boat on a small poke early doors value defo gone now.
I like the U6.5 180s on this game, Beaton is a sluggish 180 man and O'Connor might get the jitters, can see this being a pretty edgey game with experience winning the day. Wilson Ratajski is a great game, Krystof been a razor on the euro tour this year, no easy games and you have to play well to beat him, steady scorer, reliable finisher, against someone like James Wilson who can be as brilliant as bewildering in the same breath I think Ratajski is a worthy slight favourite, I picked up some 2.2 Wilson on the machine early doors and wouldn't really fancy going any shorter. What I do like in this game is O4.5 180s for James Wilson, expecting a close game with over 21 legs and Wilson if he turns up is in the top tier for 180's. This two have had good years and tons of stage experience, good game between to contrasting players I reckon, The MVG game should be a walk in the park for MVG, Kist on his best day likely no match for a B-game MVG and with Kisy struggling for fitness and Mvg just looking unstoppable in recent months Kist to get 2 or 3 legs will be good for him. U12.5 legs at 1.91 vanished very fast and at 4/6 now I like the U6.5 180s 5/6, Kist struggling, likely only be 11-12 legs and MVG rarely pulls the showstopper out for these games, just all business he'll be quick to switch and not that interested in blazing the doors off. Wish I could have taken U5.5 at a bigger price tbh. Agree with Brent & Bazza - Ted Evetts got plenty of game and played like a wizard int he quals, he's unproven on stage though and his rat-a-tat-tat style leads him to go missing on doubles too often, Price seems to need a fiery game to bring his best game and he won't get that tonight, I just think that Ted is going to slip up on too many occasions tonight and let Price stroll to victory that will probably flatter him - like brent says O16.5 legs 5/6 is where I've gone and like it there and think Price will give Ted enough chances to take a set and force some 2-2's in sets but ultimately the big stage experience of Price is gonna see him through comfortabley I think. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 15, 2017, 08:50:23 AM Price scored incredibly well :(
If he'd acheived a reasonable checkout rate he might have averaged 110! Evetts froze a bit on the big stage too tbf. Van Den Bergh tonight? Bunting has been much better recently but seems a pick em game to me. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 15, 2017, 11:58:02 AM I’m all over VDB. He’s found a new level since the WS. I thought he looked incredibly nervous in the Youth final but still banged in 100+ Ave. he has been scoring like a dream lately.
I like Asada too. Mathers has had some decent results in Australia but no big stage experience. Asada in the other hand has a win over Labanauskas at Lakeside and pushed Harms to 5 sets and then took a set off of Jeff Smith last year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 15, 2017, 12:35:45 PM Agree with Bazza,
Asada stage experience to win, decent chance the Aussie just falls to pieces up there, Asada to win the first set 3-0 @ 5/1 I like too. Demitri is a huge bet imo, 2.2+ I think he should be very close between the two of them, Bunting has been playing a lot better lately but he needs a good WC and will beunder pressure as the fave, Demitri has been playing great and is such a grinder, getting more and more used to the big stages and whereas this is bigger than all of them, I think he's up to it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 15, 2017, 01:19:12 PM Agree, VDB is a wheelbarrow job.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on December 15, 2017, 09:04:14 PM Darts thread elders - thank you for the successful punting in opposing Bunting.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ledders on December 15, 2017, 09:07:39 PM Great analysis, great result. Cheers!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 15, 2017, 09:36:31 PM I'm going to need a bigger wheelbarrow and it's only day 2.
What's next lads? I like Dekker tomorrow! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 16, 2017, 03:31:06 AM Nice result for all on Dimitri, never looked in doubt. And good call on Segio Bazza. Im also with Jan 'The Coat' Dekker tomo @ 7/4, he was superb against mvg at the players & a similar display would get it done tomo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 16, 2017, 11:33:48 AM I think Dekker is still ok at the current prices. I wouldn’t want to go much lower though. Hugely inconsistent but has a game on his day that would win this. His really bad days have become less frequent as the year has gone on.
I usually like opposing Dolan when he’s on early. His opponent is unlikely to be great but a mid 80s Ave could be enough here so 4/1 looks fair enough. I think Humphries could turn out to be very good and his results on Development and Challenge tour have been rock solid but happy to have a watching brief due to his lack of TV exposure. Bit of a trappy day with nothing particularly standing out. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 16, 2017, 05:02:34 PM small on dekker, also like the O180s in that game (first time this WC)
For loads of reasons i think Cullen will do a job on Wattimena here Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 16, 2017, 09:21:58 PM Go on The Coat!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 16, 2017, 09:24:55 PM I'm going to need a bigger wheelbarrow and it's only day 2. What's next lads? I like Dekker tomorrow! Bosh. Merry Xmas in the Hutchinson household. Love the darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 16, 2017, 09:31:23 PM What's next?
Any love for Jacques vs Anderson tomorrow? Big price but obviously inexperienced on the big stage. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on December 17, 2017, 11:08:59 AM James Wade interview where he talks about his mental health issues.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/dec/17/james-wade-bipolar-darts-word-championships-donald-mcrae Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 18, 2017, 09:32:47 AM Twitter went into meltdown last night over this photo.
So, a question - if Star Sports Bookmakers (who tweeted the photo) offered some competitive prices on the World Darts, would you place a bet with them? (http://i.imgur.com/GzI9IiB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/GzI9IiB) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 18, 2017, 03:16:52 PM cant bet more than a fiver though :(
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 18, 2017, 03:17:57 PM Qualifier +1.5 vs Mark Webster tonight, probably going to be paul lim who is absolutely no pushover at all and with webby's yr long form you fancy Paul Lim to have a crack at him.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on December 18, 2017, 11:05:46 PM plenty of breaks of throw :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on December 18, 2017, 11:26:02 PM Great win, hes a happy chappy
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 18, 2017, 11:29:48 PM Fucking love darts. 63 years of age and plays like that. Thats like Tikay winning in the world championship of darts.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2017, 01:24:10 PM Fucking love darts. 63 years of age and plays like that. Thats like Tikay winning in the world championship of darts. I'd give a few bob to be as young as he is. He certainly looks a happy bunny though. (http://i.imgur.com/UiGyAFE.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UiGyAFE) Whilst I momentarily have your attention, will your friend or acquaintance be attending Ally Pally to heckle Phil Taylor? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 19, 2017, 01:54:49 PM Whilst I momentarily have your attention, will your friend or acquaintance be attending Ally Pally to heckle Phil Taylor? hahaha unfortunately not. The quarter with Taylor and Anderson in the draw has opened up massively now, it looks a near certainty they will meet in the quarters. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: dino1980 on December 19, 2017, 02:43:54 PM bet365 have over 2.5 170 checkouts at 4/7. Max bet? Must be way shorter than 4/7 surely without having any stats in front of me. (edit there were 4 last year (3 were MVG) and 6 in 2016) Just want to say thanks for the tip arbboy, the over 2.5 has already landed! 1/6 over 1.5 as well as 1/33 any 170 checkout. Also want to say thanks to the darts elders in this thread, i’ve been on most of the individual match tips as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 19, 2017, 02:45:46 PM Don't know much about Munch (?) but Oreshkin always seems pretty steady to me.
8/11 seems reasonable? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 19, 2017, 02:51:50 PM bet365 have over 2.5 170 checkouts at 4/7. Max bet? Must be way shorter than 4/7 surely without having any stats in front of me. (edit there were 4 last year (3 were MVG) and 6 in 2016) Just want to say thanks for the tip arbboy, the over 2.5 has already landed! 1/6 over 1.5 as well as 1/33 any 170 checkout. Also want to say thanks to the darts elders in this thread, i’ve been on most of the individual match tips as well. The over 4.5 was 7/2 with Bet Victor, need another 2. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on December 19, 2017, 10:50:35 PM So, does Adrian Lewis still get a wild card spot for the Premier League after that?
Would it be better for him if he didn’t - he’s still only 32, first round loss here plus an empty spring might give him the kick up the arse he needs to put the effort in to raise his game. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2017, 12:35:47 AM So, does Adrian Lewis still get a wild card spot for the Premier League after that? Would it be better for him if he didn’t - he’s still only 32, first round loss here plus an empty spring might give him the kick up the arse he needs to put the effort in to raise his game. Lewis was a bit unlucky. Played well enough to massacre most qualifiers. Munch just had the 45 minutes he could only dream of. 8x180s? Doubt he's ever had that many in a day of practice. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 20, 2017, 02:55:32 AM With the year he's had and thr draw he got its nothing short of an absolute disaster for jackpot that.
Outside world #18 next year, get ready for a tough year jackpit Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 20, 2017, 04:19:23 AM So, does Adrian Lewis still get a wild card spot for the Premier League after that? Would it be better for him if he didn’t - he’s still only 32, first round loss here plus an empty spring might give him the kick up the arse he needs to put the effort in to raise his game. He shouldn’t but I think he will. Dropping outside the top 16 and missing out on a PL place might just be the ticket up his arse he needs. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 22, 2017, 08:56:28 AM Seen on Twitter this morning, Tweeted by a well-respected blonde;
Is there a more overblown "sport" than darts? Probably the wrong thread to pose such a question, but I know where he's coming from. Great punting medium, though. I suppose it's like that Jonathon Rea thing - it staggered me that some had never heard of him, as I never miss WSB events. I watch a LOT of televised sport, almost all sport is of interest to me, but so far I've not watched a minute of the current Darts WC. It's such a contrast to the excellent coverage & presentation of the snooker seen of late. Curiously, the Darts thread has been deathly quiet during the biggest event of the year. Each to their own I guess. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 22, 2017, 09:15:38 AM Perhaps its a bit more of a niche sport than some.
Just in my workplace (20+ sports traders) it seems you have to be really really into it and never miss a match (like 5 of us), massively into getting wankered and going to watch it live (3 of us - im including myself in both) or just not that bothered about darts and think its a game not a sport (the other 13). They've done an amazing job of growing the sport over the last decade but it is one of those sports that isn't necessarily generally loved by the widespread public imo. I actually think the coverage is improving year on year but when it becomes more stat focused and more younger analysts who love the sport (Dan Dawson is one) get more airtime it will get better. Maybe the "darts boom" won't last forever but I hope it does. In other news, Van Der Voort @ 1.71 looks a huge price this aft. Also like Van Den Bergh @ 1.65 but would be 2nd choice. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 22, 2017, 09:25:07 AM Perhaps its a bit more of a niche sport than some. Just in my workplace (20+ sports traders) it seems you have to be really really into it and never miss a match (like 5 of us), massively into getting wankered and going to watch it live (3 of us - im including myself in both) or just not that bothered about darts and think its a game not a sport (the other 13). They've done an amazing job of growing the sport over the last decade but it is one of those sports that isn't necessarily generally loved by the widespread public imo. I actually think the coverage is improving year on year but when it becomes more stat focused and more younger analysts who love the sport (Dan Dawson is one) get more airtime it will get better. Maybe the "darts boom" won't last forever but I hope it does. In other news, Van Der Voort @ 1.71 looks a huge price this aft. Also like Van Den Bergh @ 1.65 but would be 2nd choice. That seems a fair response. I watch it most years, but have been a bit cba about it this year. I'll maybe watch it after the Xmas break, when it gets to the sharp end. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on December 22, 2017, 09:30:06 AM i must confess i don't get it
never been live but you can't see the board with the naked eye i expect so you watch on big screens either side of the board except a lot of the crowd don't watch, they are getting wankered so a ticket for an evening there costs? £30?£50? why aren't these guys piling into a pub for free, putting it on a big screen and saving the ticket cost? can still have a sing song (the repetitiveness of those songs, please get a bigger repertoire) in there Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 22, 2017, 09:48:29 AM i must confess i don't get it never been live but you can't see the board with the naked eye i expect so you watch on big screens either side of the board except a lot of the crowd don't watch, they are getting wankered so a ticket for an evening there costs? £30?£50? why aren't these guys piling into a pub for free, putting it on a big screen and saving the ticket cost? can still have a sing song (the repetitiveness of those songs, please get a bigger repertoire) in there I think the alcohol think might be the issue. For a non-drinker like me, when I go into a room full of drunk folks, I think they all look pretty damn stupid, & they think exactly the same of me. The thing is though, we can't communicate at all, as I don't understand why they drink, & they don't understand why I don't drink. Same watching the darts - I sit there rolling my eyes at all that drunken behaviour, but they are enjoying themselves & doing me no harm. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ledders on December 22, 2017, 04:26:41 PM Nice one Horneris! Going to have to ask Santa for a wheelbarrow to get really stuck in after xmas!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 22, 2017, 05:24:23 PM Cheers Ledders, neither of those were particularily sweat worthy, went well.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nirvana on December 22, 2017, 06:04:45 PM i must confess i don't get it never been live but you can't see the board with the naked eye i expect so you watch on big screens either side of the board except a lot of the crowd don't watch, they are getting wankered so a ticket for an evening there costs? £30?£50? why aren't these guys piling into a pub for free, putting it on a big screen and saving the ticket cost? can still have a sing song (the repetitiveness of those songs, please get a bigger repertoire) in there I'm glad I went once but would never go again, darts definitely incidental and I was with a couple of guys who play league darts. If you try a different song the bouncers close it down pretty quick. After half an hour you feel like an extra in a production of a really bad musical , but our Santa hats, beards and glasses got us on TV so job done :-) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 22, 2017, 07:10:25 PM i must confess i don't get it never been live but you can't see the board with the naked eye i expect so you watch on big screens either side of the board except a lot of the crowd don't watch, they are getting wankered so a ticket for an evening there costs? £30?£50? why aren't these guys piling into a pub for free, putting it on a big screen and saving the ticket cost? can still have a sing song (the repetitiveness of those songs, please get a bigger repertoire) in there I think the alcohol think might be the issue. For a non-drinker like me, when I go into a room full of drunk folks, I think they all look pretty damn stupid, & they think exactly the same of me. The thing is though, we can't communicate at all, as I don't understand why they drink, & they don't understand why I don't drink. Same watching the darts - I sit there rolling my eyes at all that drunken behaviour, but they are enjoying themselves & doing me no harm. Did the premier league once. Someone was being sick on the way in. Once inside, we watched on a screen, waiting to hear how many the players had scored. All you could hear was the rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb of beerswilling louts who had no interest in the events. They'd stand and cheer the 180s in the first match. Then every other one in the second. By the third, they only stood up at the breaks, which they were alerted to, when their conversations were interrupted by the first drum beats of Chase the Sun ("the darts song"). Most managed to hold their squidged plastic pint pots so as not to spill any amber toilet water while they hugged their mates for the "oi oi oi". By the last match, the floor was sodden with a near torrent of beer and I was thoroughly miserable. Some more sick on the way out. I won't describe the toilets. Not been back. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: 4KSuited on December 22, 2017, 07:28:17 PM ^^^ This describes exactly what it looks like on the TV. Never felt compelled to find out whether it was a true reflection of the actual experience. TBF, though, there’s a very similar experience at most stadium gigs, unless you wanna get crushed & battered down at the front where you don’t rely on the screens to see what’s going on.
I loved playing darts when I was a member of a sports & social club. Great fun to see how straight you could throw when increasingly smashed. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 23, 2017, 09:37:43 AM I go to Blackpool every year and I absolutely love it. Fantastic atmosphere and a real eclectic mix of people all enjoying the darts. You can see great and the crowd are up for every dart thrown.
Bucket List item for me next week as I'm going to Ally pall on the 29th. Love the darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on December 23, 2017, 09:44:35 AM From a different perspective:
5 years ago, I didn't watch the darts, the thought of watching someone throw arrows at a board for hours on end bored me. To be honest, in its pure form I think its a real niche sport. However I watched on TV and saw the fun they were having, and decided to go 4 years ago. I loved it. When a real good serious/close game is on the crowd is surprisingly quiet, a few minorities but generally people try and watch, yes you are seeing it on a screen but to all celebrate a 180/170 finish with 2000 others is something you can't recreate in a pub! Since then ive travelled the UK following and rarely miss a match at home I am a perfect target for modern PDC love a drink and a sing but care about the darts too, the more people like me go and pay to watch, the bigger the prizes, the better the standard ergo the better the darts. On a coach down now with 26 other guys dressed as penguins. Love the darts!! Oi oi oi! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2017, 01:43:02 PM If you're after a sophisticated, good mannered, mature evening - the darts isn;t for you...
Go with a load of your mates, wear stupid clothes, drink too much, scream and shout laddishly and garishly at pretty much anything, have some team bet, don't wear nice clothes or suede shoes and don't expect to actually see more than 10-15% of the actual darts games. It's appallingly good fun, and the simple, rough, working class spirit is what makes it so much bloody fun! OiOiOi Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: stribling on December 23, 2017, 04:12:33 PM That was a great game! Rob Cross is a bit special!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 24, 2017, 09:17:25 AM That was a great game! Rob Cross is a bit special! God yeah - to be able to pull that performance out at 3-3 first time on the ally pally stage... got that Taylor/MVG streak in him where if you ever get a chance against him, and you don't take you just get the bottom of his boot in your face and you've no chance. The minute smith misses those two match darts against him that was it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on December 24, 2017, 09:25:50 AM Quite
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRuELK7X0AADSyl.jpg) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 24, 2017, 03:46:03 PM How lovely to see one of my fav players (Hendo) drill my least fav player (Gurney). Xmas is going to be so much sweeter now knowing we don't have to see Gurney again after xmas. Michael Smith is just so smooth. What a game that was with him and Cross. Incredible Smith has only made one tv semi final in his career so far when you see him play like that.
I really like Webster to beat Whitlock in the 2nd round. I think Webster is still flying somewhat under the radar price wise. Happy xmas darts fans. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 24, 2017, 05:38:36 PM Withdrawl symptoms!
What do we think of Dancing Dmitri vs Suljjovic rd3? Suljovic not playing great but has the big stage mentality these days. I think VDB is going to be a top, top player and looks calm under pressure. Obviously not there yet but got the game I think? Any value in Dmitri at 7/4? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on December 27, 2017, 01:47:50 PM I really like Webster to beat Whitlock in the 2nd round. I think Webster is still flying somewhat under the radar price wise. Tidy start to the post-xmas schedule :)up Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 27, 2017, 02:03:27 PM I really like Webster to beat Whitlock in the 2nd round. I think Webster is still flying somewhat under the radar price wise. Tidy start to the post-xmas schedule :)up If Snakebite doesn't turn up fully wound up after his lay off Webster must be eyeing a semi final berth with this draw. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 27, 2017, 08:10:22 PM I really like Webster to beat Whitlock in the 2nd round. I think Webster is still flying somewhat under the radar price wise. Tidy start to the post-xmas schedule :)up If Snakebite doesn't turn up fully wound up after his lay off Webster must be eyeing a semi final berth with this draw. Some game, this. Snakey doing very well still to be in it. Is that 3 bull finishes for Lewis now? Superb 121 for the set. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 27, 2017, 11:32:14 PM Where does Darren Webster end up in the OOM if he semi finals this event roughly lil dave?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 28, 2017, 09:28:44 AM Where does Darren Webster end up in the OOM if he semi finals this event roughly lil dave? 14/13 i think, which actually after the years he's had would be pretty well deserved. Cross world #16 now, and I do feel like it'll be a while before we see him any lower :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 28, 2017, 01:32:35 PM The Demolition man is doing a fine job of paying for xmas! Long may it continue. Was going to put up 6/4 he wins his quarter but the match had already started (thought it was a 115pm start). Match over 4-0 by 130pm!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on December 28, 2017, 01:39:54 PM Withdrawl symptoms! What do we think of Dancing Dmitri vs Suljjovic rd3? Suljovic not playing great but has the big stage mentality these days. I think VDB is going to be a top, top player and looks calm under pressure. Obviously not there yet but got the game I think? Any value in Dmitri at 7/4? No 7/4 any more. Seems like it could be a close one. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 28, 2017, 02:56:43 PM Where does Darren Webster end up in the OOM if he semi finals this event roughly lil dave? Would have to have a shot at a PL place as well you would think if he semis. Given others in contention have flopped. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 28, 2017, 03:09:52 PM Withdrawl symptoms! What do we think of Dancing Dmitri vs Suljjovic rd3? Suljovic not playing great but has the big stage mentality these days. I think VDB is going to be a top, top player and looks calm under pressure. Obviously not there yet but got the game I think? Any value in Dmitri at 7/4? No 7/4 any more. Seems like it could be a close one. Anyone get on? Wheelbarrow job here. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 28, 2017, 06:08:48 PM Bucket List time for me tomorrow.
Getting up at 5am and leaving Sunny Blackpool to drive down for the afternoon session, hoping to acquire some tickets for the evening. Barney\MvG in the afternoon and if all goes to plan tonight, very possibly Phil's last game tomorrow night. I cannot wait! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 28, 2017, 09:07:50 PM Sorry to spoil your party but i think MVG Barney will be in the evening also?
Very jealous anyway!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 28, 2017, 09:17:09 PM Bucket List time for me tomorrow. Getting up at 5am and leaving Sunny Blackpool to drive down for the afternoon session, hoping to acquire some tickets for the evening. Barney\MvG in the afternoon and if all goes to plan tonight, very possibly Phil's last game tomorrow night. I cannot wait! They posted it up for the afternoon session earlier but now it's 'TBA'............. To be honest, I'm not bothered. If it's in the evening, just means more time to 'prepare'. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 28, 2017, 09:17:45 PM https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/jamie-lewis-v-darren-webster/winner
Hills seem out of line here on Webster tomorrow. Thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 28, 2017, 09:20:24 PM Brilliant finish by Brown to take it to 2-2 and no one in the crowd noticed because they were doing the hilarious:
"Boring boring tables" V "Sit down on your plastic seats" That atmosphere though... ::) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 28, 2017, 09:22:58 PM https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-championship/jamie-lewis-v-darren-webster/winner Hills seem out of line here on Webster tomorrow. Thoughts? Sigh, the 2.2 has gone already. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 28, 2017, 10:34:10 PM Brilliant finish by Brown to take it to 2-2 and no one in the crowd noticed because they were doing the hilarious: "Boring boring tables" V "Sit down on your plastic seats" That atmosphere though... ::) Ahh you mean the eloquent back and forth where the guys who paid £200 for 4 seats at a table, tell the guys who paid £18 for their seats at the side with no table that they are poor and on benefits, whilst the guys who 64% less for their seats tell them they are all boring for not chanting enough. Not like the Chess matches, where the front row put their medium glass of pinot nior down on a coaster to turn and chant at the back row "Your alumni is not considered in modern times to be in the top 15% nationally despite its excellent reputation - na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na SUB - PAR campus facilities na na na" Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 28, 2017, 10:41:29 PM Brilliant finish by Brown to take it to 2-2 and no one in the crowd noticed because they were doing the hilarious: "Boring boring tables" V "Sit down on your plastic seats" That atmosphere though... ::) Ahh you mean the eloquent back and forth where the guys who paid £200 for 4 seats at a table, tell the guys who paid £18 for their seats at the side with no table that they are poor and on benefits, whilst the guys who 64% less for their seats tell them they are all boring for not chanting enough. Not like the Chess matches, where the front row put their medium glass of pinot nior down on a coaster to turn and chant at the back row "Your alumni is not considered in modern times to be in the top 15% nationally despite its excellent reputation - na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na SUB - PAR campus facilities na na na" NH WP Pinot noir is only for when you are playing as black. Chablis for the white pieces. Ra ra ra We're going to smash the oiks! (https://78.media.tumblr.com/3e24d1349389b5415dae1d0d853fb63c/tumblr_myjoflnAKP1s64g7qo1_500.gif) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 28, 2017, 10:59:14 PM hahaha :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 29, 2017, 01:48:31 PM Demolition man got well and truly demolished there. Stunning performance by the kid. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Dewi_cool on December 29, 2017, 02:30:57 PM Demolition man got well and truly demolished there. Stunning performance by the welsh kid. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 29, 2017, 02:37:26 PM cost me a fair few quid that did but amazing calm performance under pressure there from the kid. £268 done at 1000/1 on bf he wins it. Darts is changing as a rapid rate of knots. New breed are turning up and ruffling a fair few feathers. Can't wait to see the PL line up next week. Got no idea who will fill the last few places.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 29, 2017, 06:53:26 PM The performances today from Lewis and VDB were superb in the circumstances. Both playing knowing that a win would see them earn more from one tournament than they have in the previous two years and both brought their A game. If Lewis can bring that game tomorrow night he will cause Taylor/Anderson nightmares.
Given what they have done this week I think VDB and Lewis should get in the PL. give me them before the likes of Whitlock any day. Both of them have turned up to the big dance and played the best darts of their life. I imagine their will be serious noses out of joint if they get it mind you. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2017, 06:59:17 PM Is the 6/1(7) Barney tempting on betty to any arrers experts?
I couldn't resist a tiny dabble at that price as what I've seen of RvG apart from his first match hasn't been that great. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 29, 2017, 07:37:38 PM Rob Cross is now world #9...
It's a simply phenomenal accomplishment, he only got his tour card in January and now he is inside the world top 10, the scale of the task when you basically never play anyone outside the world top 16 when there is any money at stake at you run into top 4 players in the early stage every time. To put the run of results he has together this year - #1 on the pro tour including 4 pro tour wins (they are so hard to win on their own) 2 euro tour finals. final the europeans, semis of the worlds and the players and quarters of the grand slam. Cashed for £300k already and he'll add plenty to that next year in the PL. The way he's done it too, throwing darts on the big stage like he's been up there throwing darts for tens of thousands for decades. What a guy. Demitri was outstanding too, Lewis to play like that vs a very gritty opponent in the 1.4s of a world championship, my god what a player, if you average 106 and take out 50% of your doubles you're gonna cause big problems for anyone - even MVG is gonna need to turn up to beat you playing like that. Can he hit that winning double when missing isn't an option? Yet to see that from him but he hasn't needed that yet partly as a result of his own brilliance, if he pushes whoever he plays tomorrow close and doesnt bottle it then absolutely get him in the Premier League. Demitri is made for the PL - nice lad, great image with all the dancing and has a very entertaining game - also he'll be a massive hit in Belgium and Kim is in all sorts of bother atm. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2017, 08:50:11 PM Barny Army ;cheerleader;
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: verndog158 on December 30, 2017, 11:03:23 PM What a checkout! I'm so aroused 😂😂
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2017, 11:14:34 PM Superb game, this.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: verndog158 on December 30, 2017, 11:19:47 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: dino1980 on December 31, 2017, 12:12:30 AM What. A. Game.
Think I owe Lil'Dave a drink. Fairly sure he tipped Rob Cross up way back in June. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2017, 12:16:44 AM Idiots booing MVG in the sudden death leg. Absolutely no class, and far too much drink
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: verndog158 on December 31, 2017, 12:22:23 AM Idiots booing MVG in the sudden death leg. Absolutely no class, and far too much drink agree, totally ridiculous and stupid. but what a match! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 31, 2017, 12:23:14 AM Astonishing! Great to watch.
Taylor gets a qualifier in the semis and a debutant in the final. Who would have chalked that up?! Idiots booing MVG in the sudden death leg. Absolutely no class, and far too much drink Massively this. And it'll happen to Cross on Monday. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2017, 12:26:07 AM Voltage absolute class.
Crowd were a disgrace though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on December 31, 2017, 12:29:33 AM Absolutely buzzing. What a sport.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nirvana on December 31, 2017, 12:32:10 AM Obvs there's a case for personal responsibility but if you put on a big piss up, it aint a big surprise when people behave like pissheads. Slightly unedifying but I so dislike MVGs posturing and voice it didnt bother me much.
Only watched one game so far, glad I chose this one - epic like Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nirvana on December 31, 2017, 12:33:49 AM Absolutely buzzing. What a sport. Mardle declared boldly," Darts (pause for gravity) is the best sport in the world" Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 31, 2017, 12:38:26 AM Well he's hardly gonna say "Darts....is the 2nd best sport behind synchronised swimming." When hes commentating live on the arras semi final.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on December 31, 2017, 12:43:46 AM Well he's hardly gonna say "Darts....is the 2nd best sport behind synchronised swimming." When hes commentating live on the arras semi final. That would be pretty awesome if he did though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 31, 2017, 01:06:04 AM What. A. Game. Think I owe Lil'Dave a drink. Fairly sure he tipped Rob Cross up way back in June. I think you might be right , I've got a 66/1 ticket and I would never have put that on without a recommend. Thanks Dave or whoever it was. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on December 31, 2017, 01:22:27 AM Best game ever?!?! And yes definitely agreee that booing on mvgs throw was awful, was watching at local boozer with everyone supporting cross and not one person didnt speak up against it. WHAT A GAME THOUGH!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on December 31, 2017, 02:19:47 AM Disgraceful booing and whistling, if I was there and saw a neighbour do it i'd wade in.
Only other time I saw it that bad was Cross vs MVG and it was a big match somewhere and every time cross went to throw a double some idiot whistled and MVG went on to win and MVG denied it happened after, so a little karma there Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 31, 2017, 12:52:40 PM Crowd were ridiculous but at the end of the day darts is sold as a laddy night out and the snakepit crowd is now part of the game, its not nice when you're MVG and you care about the worlds more than anything else in the world and everyone is booing you when you have a huge dart...but, at the same time he's world #1 this is part of it and he certainly can't blame the crowd for losing the game. Would much rather see it not happen, there's a line and the crowd did cross it.
Rob Cross though, what a fucking guy, world #6 - he is world #6 and hasn't even had his tour card for 12 months yet, as far as an achievement goes it's breathtaking. If he wins (which he might!!!) he's world #3 for gods sake it shouldn't be possible! From Total rookie to World #3 in 12 months, it's 1 in a 100 lifetimes will never happen again. This is the most competitive sport around atm too - out of the 8 quarter finalists 4 of them started the tournament outside of the world top 20! 3 best games of the tournament have been Cross vs Demitri, Cross vs Smith and Cross vs MVG. It's just amazing. Now we have Taylor's last ever game in pro darts and it's in a world final, can't write it, speaking to Kev Allen yday he said if you wrote this story down in a book you'd hurl the book out of the window and call it nonsense, as a darts fan i'm just absolutely buzzing for what happened :D amazing day! What a sport - 2 years running it's been the 2nd biggest sport for viewings on sky sports and it's not gonna stop! Next step, get those euro tours on TV, before too long will be £20k FTW in the pro tours, £50k FTW Euros, £250k ftw majors and £750k for the worlds. Darts unstoppable force, it's fast, action packed, got big personalities, super exciting, easy to follow. Taylor's dominance of the sport is unprecedented in any other sport in history, 30 years since he started he's still comfortably top 5 best players in the world and gonna retire as world #3 there's just no words for it. Think I owe Lil'Dave a drink. Fairly sure he tipped Rob Cross up way back in June. I think you might be right , I've got a 66/1 ticket and I would never have put that on without a recommend. Thanks Dave or whoever it was. You're welcome ;) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on January 01, 2018, 07:54:19 PM I have nearly 65% of my net worth on a cross win. Lets ffffff go!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: RobS on January 01, 2018, 08:11:10 PM I have nearly 65% of my net worth on a cross win. Lets ffffff go! The remaining 35% on Taylor? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on January 01, 2018, 08:22:11 PM Lets go crossyyyyy
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2018, 09:12:00 PM Good leg to win, that one.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on January 01, 2018, 09:31:53 PM I have nearly 65% of my net worth on a cross win. Lets ffffff go! The remaining 35% on Taylor? Lol the remaining 65% ready for a divorce settlement if she found out I lost! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 01, 2018, 10:20:33 PM That was phenomenal. Given the circumstances it’s the best darting performance of all time by miles. He put his foot on Phil’a throat early and never took it off. To donthat as a rookie in your first world final is beyond special.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on January 01, 2018, 10:40:27 PM Incred performance and nice to see Phil take it graciously, classy at the end is a nice touch
(https://i.gyazo.com/afdad8215b9c15219f94bb6aa9406551.png) K Anderson bubbles, Whitlock kinda puzzling after falling flat at the business end of the year back in for Unibet Masters on Jan 26th :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on January 01, 2018, 10:47:58 PM Whitlock is baffling to me.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2018, 10:54:54 PM Whitlock is baffling to me. Do the Aussies pay a fair bit to show it? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2018, 10:56:31 PM Great final, and the battle of the baldies should be good for the next decade or so!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2018, 11:25:19 AM Just absolutely wow.
World Darts is just so exciting these days, even though Big Phil didn't walk out with a win, its a fitting end that his last ever game was a world championship final. The rankings are now very interesting! Rob Cross is going to end his debut year, incredibly, as world #3! He'll captain the england world cup team, and set off 5/1 second fave for the Prem! He has a £160k buffer over Gary Anderson in #5 (4 without PT) and £150k to make up on Peter Wright, with no prize money to defend this year Gary has an almost impossible task of reclaiming the lead over Cross in the rankings. This means as world #3 Cross will swerve MVG pre final in all majors - something tells me there's going to be a fair few Cross/MVG matchups this coming year... Peter Wright, for now, has a steady grasp on world #2, with a £150k buffer, however danger is imminent - with £290k to defend over the year, to Rob Cross' £0, means Peter Wright is gonna have to end the year with over £100k more prize money to stay ahead, Peter Wright has not been at the races really last 6 months of the year, however he won the world series finals, finaled two majors in that time, so yeh - he knows how to win games, assume hes gonna be grinding hard once again and will probably run into Rob Cross a fair amount in the semis. What he doesn't want to do is have sloppy start to the year, and find himself £80k behind Rob Cross going into the back end of the year where he has £150k to defend. Gary is £160k behind Rob Cross, and has £320k of defend mostly at the back end of the year, even if Rob Cross drops off, probably not possible for Gary to over-take him - annoying thing for Gary is he's going to run into MVG in the semis in everything, a £300k gap behind PW and more money to defend think Gary's gonna need some help if he's to crack back into the top 3. Daryl Gurney has a nice year ahead of him, hes only defending £1210k over the year he's £40k behind Gary and £60k ahead of Mensur who has about £180k to defend, very good spot to get himself a good hold on world #4 for Daryl. Despite all 3 of them fizzling out at the worlds, I think they all semm in good shape, Daryl and Mensur are big grinders and Gary has said he will return to european tour and up his pro tour volume this year so shoudl be a good scrap. Behind this pack is Chizzy and Whitlock, Chizzy has big problems, out of form, injury worries, £200k to defend over the year and his top 10 spot is under threat. If I'm the top 6, i'm not too worried about any threats from these two at the moment. First time ever, but the Rob Cross danger exists even for Mighty MVG! He has, at the moment a ~£1.2m lead over cross in 3rd, and a £1.05m lead over PW in second, however 2016 was such a rocket of a year for MVG he has £1.157m of open rankings money to defend this year (he won every major) so he could very easily see his lead over Voltage slashed significantly, even if MVG repeats his incredible 2016, he's likely to see his lead cut by 30-40% minimum. PEter Wright isn't beyond catching him up a little either. The fallen heros; Adrian Lewis and James Wade. Lewis only has £110k to defend this year, if he can focus without the premier league (he's never liked it anyway) grind the pro tour and euro tour properly and put a few decent performances in the majors he could get himself very easily back into the top 10. I think if he can cash for £250k this year then he'll be happily back into the top 8, he needs to get himself sorted fast though, get himself into the top 16 and push on from there.Guys like Darren Webster, Joe Cullen, Kyle Anderson pushing behind him he doesn't want a slow start and slip into the mid 20s. Wade £190k to defend this year, form picked up at the end of last year, he still in the top 10 without Phil so same scenario, get grinding and see if he can re-find some form. With his experience you'd still fancy him to be competitive in the pro tour and could feasibly hold on to his top 16 spot this year. Jelle Klaasen, exactly the same spot. only a few thousand off the top 16, competitive chasing pack, needs to get himself ready and right. Ian White, Alan Norris, Kim Huybrechts - all the same, big danger of falling into the 20s. Exciting times for Webster, Smith, Cullen, K.Anderson, Price all on the rise and defending relatively small money for the year, Price and Smith could find some form and drive up into the top 10 (espcially with Chizzy, Wade etc above them) whereas Webster/Cullen/Kyle really need to push on from some good performances last year and get up into that top 16, Anderson had a good year last year and if he can put a good major run together and get up towards the top 10, he's gonna be a big shout for the PL 2019. Cullen another one, so many good performances on tour but just melts on the big stage - when he fixes that he's got the game to be a real top 10 contender. Benito another one who needs to watch himself, £155k to defend and he's not been impressive of late, #13 without phil and he could very easily start poorly and find himself behind the chasers. Guys I think are gonna make some runs next year from outside the top 16... 1) James Wilson - world #30, under £100k off the top 16 and hs a very dangerous game, gusy capable of averaging 105-108 for 5-10 legs are always a danger in the short format games and if he can get himself on form and ping a decent draw in one of the majors he'll be a threat to the top 16 and I wouldn't be shocked to see him crack it. 2) Jamie Lewis - Obvious selection, but he has £45k to defend this year, and only £100k to make up to the top 16 - he'll have supreme confidence from his incredible WC run and if he continues those performances he's gonna cause real problems for anyone. 3) Robert Thornton - didn't see this guy on the list a few months ago, but the Thorn has recovered from a year he looked destined to exit the world #32 still in #24 and his performances since the GP have improved drastically, I could really see the Thorn making some move back at the top 16 now he has hardly any prize money to defend this year. He has some competitive guys chasing him down though, so he's still got some danger. 4) Big Hendo - some big performances on tour last year, beat a lot of big names, no prize money to defend, got a very solid game. Watch out top 16 big john's a'rocking. 5) Demitri - £150k to make up to the top 16, great player, tons of confidence, super hard worker, no prize money to defend, I think he'll be a big mover this year. He's also pretty likely to ping a world series invite, and being a Belgian with Kim struggling will help him out - he's also gonna partner Kim at the World Cup probably which is just more experience for him. 6) Josh Payne - Lost to DVDB in the world final, great action and a confident guy, put some good performances in last year and I think he'll make some moves this year. 7) Johny Clayton - another guy miles better than his #32 ranking, just like all the guys around him he needs to ping a few favourable draws in the majors and he'll be flying. Roll on 2018! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2018, 11:30:43 AM Whitlock is baffling to me. I am pretty zzzzz about his involvement, however I think he does tick a pretty much all boxes for a PL spots; 1) Good TV performance in the past yr - TICK - Final the GP 2) Good World Ranking - TICK - world #8 3) Good Tour form - TICK - had a very good year on tour, the start of the year in particular 4) Appeal to a specific nation - TICK - Australian darts will love him being in there 5) Pedigree - TICK - World Champs final, Euro winner etc 6) Star factor - NO TICK - this is what's missing, he's just a bit boring compared to a Mensur, Smith, even Chizzy or Lewis. If you compare to people he got the nod ahead off, Lewis/Chizzy/Kyle/Wade he probably does deserve the spot over those guys... Would have had Demitri in there over him, but he's still only #40 in the world Demitri but I think he ticks all 1/3/4/6 boxes comfortably. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 02, 2018, 11:40:04 AM Betting for the PL is interesting;
MVG - 4/5 Cross - 7/2 Gary 11/2 Peter Wright 8/1 Gurney 33/1 Barney 33/1 Mensur 40/1 Smith 66/1 Price 80/1 Whitlock 150/1 If you'd have told Rob Cross a year ago he'd be 7/2 to win the Premier League I think he'd struggle to have believed you :D. Gary, and Gurney look interesting to me. Gary probably still second best player in the world on his best day and Gurney lost his mind vs Hendo in the worlds, but this format is very good for him, the big stage vs the best players he's very comfortable with now and 33s look big to me. Find it hard to make Mensur longer than Barney for this - I'd happily lay whitlock at 150/1 and Price at 80/1. Micheal Smith could just light up and have one of those years Chizzy had a few years ago where he missed a double to top the table, could also get bashed up again like he did on his last participation, like Bazza said needs to get to a good start. Think i'm gonna have a little nibble on DG at 33s, and consider a bit of Gary at 11/2 - 1/2 odds ew with B365 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on January 02, 2018, 01:53:35 PM Depending on the price I might be looking at backing Mensur to finish bottom or get relegated.
Been a big fan of his in 2017 but he did look to be off the boil at the worlds and having rejected a premier league place in the past for family reasons I could see his motivation being affected by all the travelling. Whitlock would be a clear fav for me in these markets, I'm disappointed hes in the line-up. I know he had a good Grand Prix when finishing as runner up but other times I've actually seen him on TV recently hes been poor (I know he won a couple of big floor tourns earlier in the year). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Woodsey on January 02, 2018, 09:29:44 PM Never watch darts, but had a bit of a read tonight about this Cross guy, what a story! Delighted for him.
Whats up with the usual negative arseholes about Phil Taylor? Seems like a decent bloke who’s done a lot for the game over the years as well as being pretty successful. Maybe jealously from said arseholes as they are losers in life? :dontask: Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 02, 2018, 09:39:16 PM Never watch darts, but had a bit of a read tonight about this Cross guy, what a story! Delighted for him. Whats up with the usual negative arseholes about Phil Taylor? Seems like a decent bloke who’s done a lot for the game over the years as well as being pretty successful. Maybe jealously from said arseholes as they are losers in life? :dontask: Maybe an idea to find out a bit about it, and then start piping into the 'negative arseholes', Woodsey ;) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Woodsey on January 02, 2018, 09:42:09 PM Never watch darts, but had a bit of a read tonight about this Cross guy, what a story! Delighted for him. Whats up with the usual negative arseholes about Phil Taylor? Seems like a decent bloke who’s done a lot for the game over the years as well as being pretty successful. Maybe jealously from said arseholes as they are losers in life? :dontask: Maybe an idea to find out a bit about it, and then start piping into the 'negative arseholes', Woodsey ;) True mate I accept that, but the same could be said about arseholes who know nothing about rugby and cricket but still are dickheads and chirp off about the supporters they don’t like for no reason other than they are chavs that don’t like ‘middle class’ sports ;tracet; ;djinn; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 02, 2018, 09:49:27 PM Never watch darts, but had a bit of a read tonight about this Cross guy, what a story! Delighted for him. Whats up with the usual negative arseholes about Phil Taylor? Seems like a decent bloke who’s done a lot for the game over the years as well as being pretty successful. Maybe jealously from said arseholes as they are losers in life? :dontask: Maybe an idea to find out a bit about it, and then start piping into the 'negative arseholes', Woodsey ;) True mate I accept that, but the same could be said about arseholes who know nothing about rugby and cricket but still are dickheads and chirp off about the supporters they don’t like for no reason other than they are chavs that don’t like ‘middle class’ sports ;tracet; ;djinn; Taylor is the GOAT, but probably the biggest ***** of all time, too. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on January 02, 2018, 09:52:57 PM Google 'Phil Taylor and caravan'.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Woodsey on January 02, 2018, 10:09:29 PM Never watch darts, but had a bit of a read tonight about this Cross guy, what a story! Delighted for him. Whats up with the usual negative arseholes about Phil Taylor? Seems like a decent bloke who’s done a lot for the game over the years as well as being pretty successful. Maybe jealously from said arseholes as they are losers in life? :dontask: Maybe an idea to find out a bit about it, and then start piping into the 'negative arseholes', Woodsey ;) True mate I accept that, but the same could be said about arseholes who know nothing about rugby and cricket but still are dickheads and chirp off about the supporters they don’t like for no reason other than they are chavs that don’t like ‘middle class’ sports ;tracet; ;djinn; Taylor is the GOAT, but probably the biggest ***** of all time, too. Fair enough, in my limited viewing I haven’t seen much of that. Suppose it’s a bit like Ronaldo who is awesome as a footballer and a bit of a prick at the same time, but you can’t help but silently respect him. :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 03, 2018, 01:39:51 PM Crowd were ridiculous but at the end of the day darts is sold as a laddy night out and the snakepit crowd is now part of the game, its not nice when you're MVG and you care about the worlds more than anything else in the world and everyone is booing you when you have a huge dart...but, at the same time he's world #1 this is part of it and he certainly can't blame the crowd for losing the game. Would much rather see it not happen, there's a line and the crowd did cross it. Rob Cross though, what a fucking guy, world #6 - he is world #6 and hasn't even had his tour card for 12 months yet, as far as an achievement goes it's breathtaking. If he wins (which he might!!!) he's world #3 for gods sake it shouldn't be possible! From Total rookie to World #3 in 12 months, it's 1 in a 100 lifetimes will never happen again. This is the most competitive sport around atm too - out of the 8 quarter finalists 4 of them started the tournament outside of the world top 20! 3 best games of the tournament have been Cross vs Demitri, Cross vs Smith and Cross vs MVG. It's just amazing. Now we have Taylor's last ever game in pro darts and it's in a world final, can't write it, speaking to Kev Allen yday he said if you wrote this story down in a book you'd hurl the book out of the window and call it nonsense, as a darts fan i'm just absolutely buzzing for what happened :D amazing day! What a sport - 2 years running it's been the 2nd biggest sport for viewings on sky sports and it's not gonna stop! Next step, get those euro tours on TV, before too long will be £20k FTW in the pro tours, £50k FTW Euros, £250k ftw majors and £750k for the worlds. Darts unstoppable force, it's fast, action packed, got big personalities, super exciting, easy to follow. Taylor's dominance of the sport is unprecedented in any other sport in history, 30 years since he started he's still comfortably top 5 best players in the world and gonna retire as world #3 there's just no words for it. Think I owe Lil'Dave a drink. Fairly sure he tipped Rob Cross up way back in June. I think you might be right , I've got a 66/1 ticket and I would never have put that on without a recommend. Thanks Dave or whoever it was. You're welcome ;) Dear BetStars is committed to ensuring that it provides competitive incentives for its players, and that a wide range of such players benefit from and take advantage of its free bet offers and other promotional bonuses on the BetStars site (collectively, “Promotional Offers”). Following a review of your player account, we have determined that you will no longer be eligible to participate in or benefit from Promotional Offers from the date you receive this email. This is in line with the terms and conditions applicable to each promotional offer. This will not affect your entitlements arising from any current Promotional Offers that you have taken part in, prior to the date you receive this email. Your player account will not be affected in any other way and we will continue to accept wagers on sports bets from you. You are more than welcome to also use our poker and casino products and/or any promotional bonuses that are available on or for such products. Regards, BetStars BetStars obviously not too happy we had him at that price. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 03, 2018, 04:24:44 PM Dear Omm,
Thanks for betting with us, please in future make sure you only place bets that will lose. Regards Betstars Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 04, 2018, 10:36:28 PM 40% increase in total prize fund for next years worlds with 500 bags for the winner.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: PokerBroker on January 05, 2018, 11:32:42 AM 40% increase in total prize fund for next years worlds with 500 bags for the winner. Barry did say they were looking at a big announcement. It's amazing the money it generates for a pub game/hobby. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 06, 2018, 11:11:55 AM its unstoppable the darts, unstoppable.
Need the rest of the majors to get increase in exposure and prize money too now to balance things a little, plus (and I know I'm a broken record) but we need those euro tours on TV! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 06, 2018, 01:19:51 PM I like Gilliland today at Lakeside. Came through the qualifiers taking some decent scalps. Thompson has looked pretty hopeless in the WS events in Australia. I can’t possibly have him favourite here today.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on January 06, 2018, 08:45:40 PM I like Gilliland today at Lakeside. Came through the qualifiers taking some decent scalps. Thompson has looked pretty hopeless in the WS events in Australia. I can’t possibly have him favourite here today. Jeez this was unlucky - Gililand lost after missing eight match darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on January 06, 2018, 09:51:49 PM Brutal defeat that, your angle was spot on Bazza.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on January 26, 2018, 02:13:49 PM I like Ian White @ 5/1 and +4.5 handicap (first to 10) @ evs tonight.
Huge Cross fan but think this is too short and there is always that expectation factor now hes world champppppp Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 27, 2018, 01:23:22 PM I like Ian White @ 5/1 and +4.5 handicap (first to 10) @ evs tonight. Huge Cross fan but think this is too short and there is always that expectation factor now hes world champppppp I agreed with this. Cross beast though Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Rod on January 28, 2018, 10:54:41 AM Does anybody see any value in Rob Cross 10/3 on Stan James for The Masters today. 1/2 ew odds for 2 places. Looks like there has to be some value in this bet? He does not meet MVG or Gary Anderson until the final does he? So he just needs to beat Mensur and then probably Peter Wright (possibly Barney). Looks like it should be a good bet?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on January 28, 2018, 03:08:53 PM I was a round early with my advice
Rob not great today Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 28, 2018, 03:27:03 PM really tough to bet on these tournaments
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on January 28, 2018, 04:41:14 PM Mensur played great to be fair. Cross showing signs of arrogance? That will only go one way in the Premier League in upcoming weeks when he'll be under the microscope.
How good did Barney look vs Wright? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 29, 2018, 01:17:52 PM RIP walk on girls.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/darts-competition-walk-girls-scrapped-145900703.html Amazing how it happened the minute Taylor retired! No coincidence surely? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on February 01, 2018, 04:44:05 PM Thoughts tonight?
Im liking Prices Price vs Wright. Thinking Mensur is a steal vs Whitlock and that Barney will destroy Gurney! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 01, 2018, 06:03:38 PM Barney at 5/4 for me.
For those that can, Skybet's 8/1 on Mensur/Anderson/Barney looks lovely. Shame they only take buttons on it but hey. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 01, 2018, 06:22:20 PM PREMIER LEAGUE!!!
Such an exciting time to be alive :) Mensur vs Whitlock Unfortunately one of the least exciting fixtures, Whitlock lost his head during his GSOD game vs Berry van Peer and never found it, poor at the Euros, poor at the players, poor at the worlds, poor at the masters - he didn't fare well in his last PL appearance years ago and after an impressive climb back into the top 10 he has a lot to prove and doesn't seem to be handling it very well. Mensur is super reliable these days, very hard to beat, does throw a wobbler from time to time but rarely seems to bottle it and as big of a stage as this is he's very experienced and loves the big rowdy crowds, he doesn't need to play his A-game to win matches these days, and defo doesn't need to play his A-Game to beat whitlock here. 10/11 looks huge and if you can get 11/10 then I'd be looking to pawn stuff. I'm gonna predict... 7-3 Mensur! Smith vs Anderson I've defo noticed a pattern where Gary has an excellent record over his proteges. Smith will have a lot to prove here after his performance last time he got the nod, and whereas his form last year really picked up he didn't set the world alight in a major tournament (except the Cross game, which he missed darts to win.) He really needs a good start and Gary is not exactly a nice fixture to kick off a campaign, this is bread and butter to Gary now. However his game looked good at the masters Gary but his back did not, 1 best of 12 game thought it's tough have any idea really how it will affect him. Smith form really improving lately and he's had some really good performances vs Gary in recent months and with the doubts over Gary's back I think i'd like to oppose him in some way here. Smith draw-no-bet 5/2 for me. Should be a great game. I'm gonna predict... 7-5 Gary Gurney vs Barney Been there, done that for RVB and the start of it all for Gurney. He's a legit top 8 player nowadays Gurney dont think anyone can argue with that, but his form did drop after his GP win and he wasn't up to much at the Masters so he'll feel like he has something to prove here. I understand why the market has moved like this and made Barney a clear favourite, especially after how good Barney looked at the masters, however for me, Gurney is too strong and Barney too unreliable to allow recent form to move the prices away from the mean like it has. Barney has never really started the year that strong and we know he likes to take time off after the worlds, he's travelled from Milton Keynes back to Holland on monday then back today so not sure if he'll have been practising this week much. I don't really love it but I think at 8/5 Gurney win is the bet here. If Gurney brings it and Barney keeps his form from the weekend this will be a cracker! I'm gonna predict... 7-4 Gurney Cross vs MVG The big one!!! One thing for certain is that MVG will wanna win this game like he wants to breathe, he will be LIVID about how its all worked out, he missed 6 darts to beat Cross and with Taylor retiring and Cross new WC, #3 in the world and chasing his #1 spot down, even with his masters win there isn't a huge amount of MVG stocks on sale right now and you can tel he HATES it. Cross didn't look all that impressive at the Masters and admitted that he didn't do much work after his WC win as he was enjoying time with his family. Cross had massive hurdle after massive hurdle last year and took every one in his stride so i doubt this will be any different for him. If MVG were to win this 7-2/7-3 I don't think it would knock Cross much off his stride but if Cross won it would absolutely devastate MVG. Think outrights look OK and when there was some 4/5 MVG knocking about I would have gotten involved, I can't see 3/1 Cross ever being a terrble and i would certainly rather lay mvg at 8/13 than back it, no bets I could enthusiastically advocate here but I seriously cannot wait to watch it!!! I'm gonna predict... MVG 7-4 Price vs Wright Big game for both players here, Wright doesn't really need to prove anything as far as his place as a top 8 player goes, his form since early '17 when he was blistering has been really patchy. He did final 2 majors, win a euro tour and the world series during that period so can't exactly claim he been poor. He's given players he should be beating far too many chances to beat him and hasn't really dominated a game in ages. Price has a LOT to prove here, he certainly wasn't an auto pick for this PL and hasn't got many big performances and/or results against the big boys in his locker. He has been putting up better and better performances of late though and the inconsistencies i his game are tidying up a little. For these reasons I would think a little poke on a Price win @ 3/1. I certainly wouldn't wanna go too hard here as I think Price could easily bottle it here if it gets close. Could be a really interesting game this one as they both love a scrappy one! I'm gonna predict... Price 7-4 Let's go! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 01, 2018, 07:49:10 PM here we go rotflmfao
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 01, 2018, 09:01:06 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ledders on February 01, 2018, 09:24:15 PM Why isn't this game on last?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 01, 2018, 10:11:17 PM Wright needs committing for this relentless dart changing, last year he was crushing early doors and then changes his darts every week, wtf wrong with him.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 01, 2018, 10:26:02 PM my 9yr old cousin was playing with playdough the other day and the result looked like a mix of these two
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ledders on February 01, 2018, 10:40:03 PM Good action tonight. I don't know whether arbboy's draws system is still in play but I enjoyed the sweat. It's got to hit one day!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 01, 2018, 11:20:51 PM does everyone hate Gerwyn Price? Seems like the most unpopular guy on tour but doesn't come across that badly as a person?
Maybe he just tilts everyone on stage. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on February 03, 2018, 08:25:05 AM The downwards spiral continues:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/42926453 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on February 03, 2018, 12:54:33 PM The downwards spiral continues: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/42926453 There are a couple of clips on YouTube showing the incident, after watching it and having a think about it I reckon Adrian knew what he was doing, seemed to me he just wasn't happy that he was potentially about to lose the match, his face was all narky and to my eye he invaded the other guys space. Hot head or not his reaction seemed well over the top and obviously had a effect on the other guy. Think he needs to get his head down and not have such negative body language. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 03, 2018, 01:03:06 PM Not an ideal start for Jackpot to the new year on the floor. Really worried about him and whether he actually has enough brain cells in his head at times just to get through this tough crossroads in his career. It just looked like he thought he was too big time to be at this event and wanted to needle a lesser player for no reason.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 03, 2018, 07:55:12 PM A suspension and ban is the last thing he needs. The only crumb of comfort is it’s a good time of the year to get hit with a ban. He completely lost the plot for no obvious reason. Fairly sure he doesn’t act like that if the other guy isn’t half his size as well. Given he needs a good year it’s a disastrous start, especially as he must be in half decent nick to make the semis.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 04, 2018, 10:34:18 AM he's gotta grind that pro tour, every weekend in Barnsley and Wigan he can, every Euro Tour, no prem to distract him, probably wont be auto invite to the world series events although it's not impossible he gets a nod to 1 or 2.
Get grafting jackpot or get yourself down the stokie job centre, one or the other mate. Punching random spaniards isn't really gonna get the job done. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 04, 2018, 11:45:31 AM MVG 18-0 for the year so far. He really doesn’t like losing his world title.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 04, 2018, 12:19:03 PM thats his 55th and 56th ranking even in 6 years.
Given how competitive these things are, that's some unbelievable winrate. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 04, 2018, 06:12:45 PM The streak is over ( for now) as he loses in the 1/4s to Smith.
Smith hit an outrageous out. On 120 he hit single 20 and covered the treble bed. He then hit Bull.............Bull. Another interesting thing to note; Rob Cross has won £0 in three tournaments. Has the pressure of being World Champ got to him or has he just not been on the practice boards. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on February 05, 2018, 02:40:13 PM The streak is over ( for now) as he loses in the 1/4s to Smith. Smith hit an outrageous out. On 120 he hit single 20 and covered the treble bed. He then hit Bull.............Bull. Another interesting thing to note; Rob Cross has won £0 in three tournaments. Has the pressure of being World Champ got to him or has he just not been on the practice boards. Either way the 40s or 33s that still remains on him being relegated from the premier league still looks a big price. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 05, 2018, 03:05:16 PM The streak is over ( for now) as he loses in the 1/4s to Smith. Smith hit an outrageous out. On 120 he hit single 20 and covered the treble bed. He then hit Bull.............Bull. Another interesting thing to note; Rob Cross has won £0 in three tournaments. Has the pressure of being World Champ got to him or has he just not been on the practice boards. His life will have changed beyond all belief in the last 4 weeks. Doing all the media/PR stuff he has no experience of. Adapting to that whilst having a young family and suddenly a huge amount of cash can't be easy to adjust to. Lot of hanger oners will start appearing from his past now as well. The bounce factor here is pretty likely in the short term imo. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 05, 2018, 09:35:01 PM The streak is over ( for now) as he loses in the 1/4s to Smith. Smith hit an outrageous out. On 120 he hit single 20 and covered the treble bed. He then hit Bull.............Bull. Another interesting thing to note; Rob Cross has won £0 in three tournaments. Has the pressure of being World Champ got to him or has he just not been on the practice boards. Either way the 40s or 33s that still remains on him being relegated from the premier league still looks a big price. Good enough for me, I'm having a bit of that. Good spot mate Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on February 06, 2018, 09:46:49 AM The streak is over ( for now) as he loses in the 1/4s to Smith. Smith hit an outrageous out. On 120 he hit single 20 and covered the treble bed. He then hit Bull.............Bull. Another interesting thing to note; Rob Cross has won £0 in three tournaments. Has the pressure of being World Champ got to him or has he just not been on the practice boards. Either way the 40s or 33s that still remains on him being relegated from the premier league still looks a big price. Love this, Took Sunbets 5 minutes to authorise a £10 bet. Proper due diligence. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 08, 2018, 01:55:04 PM £3k fine and a suspended 3 month ban for Jackpot. I dare say he will be happy with that outcome.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 08, 2018, 04:54:12 PM Any fancies for tonight lads?
I like Smith vs Gurney after the weekend, but he is so frustrating to back as he must be the nut worst when it comes to consistency. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 08, 2018, 04:55:38 PM misses UK Open, all the qualifiers, first 8 pro tours and first 2 euros.
Absolute fucking idiot. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 08, 2018, 04:57:04 PM Smith DNB 11/10 looks ok to me.
I also like over 180s in the whitlock cross game, small poke on mensur to beat barney and IMO U10.5 legs in the anderson/price game @6/4 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on February 08, 2018, 06:07:28 PM misses UK Open, all the qualifiers, first 8 pro tours and first 2 euros. Absolute fucking idiot. Ban is suspended, so he can play. If he keeps his nose clean for six months, he won't have to serve the 3 month ban. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on February 08, 2018, 08:13:56 PM Fortunately I was too late to place the draws super-yankee :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 10, 2018, 08:37:34 AM misses UK Open, all the qualifiers, first 8 pro tours and first 2 euros. Absolute fucking idiot. Ban is suspended, so he can play. If he keeps his nose clean for six months, he won't have to serve the 3 month ban. Yessss... I see. Lucky boy, what a clown. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 14, 2018, 12:24:42 PM Any thoughts for tomorrow lads? Had a good week last week but looks tough tomorrow.
Cross much improved at weekend after his nil points the previous week. 2 semis and a final I think? He's priced up as underdog to Wright. Gurney at 10/11 vs Price looks decent as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 15, 2018, 12:31:32 AM It’s a really trappy week. The only bet I’ve had was on Cross but he has tightened up since then and I wouldn’t be too keen at the current prices.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 15, 2018, 10:49:50 AM death trap for the punters this week agree
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on February 15, 2018, 11:20:35 AM Time for a draw super-yankee knickerbocker glory?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 15, 2018, 11:57:07 AM Time for a draw super-yankee knickerbocker glory? yeh better week than usual for it! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on February 15, 2018, 08:25:41 PM Squeak...
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 15, 2018, 09:42:54 PM decent game of arrars that
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: typhoon13 on February 16, 2018, 08:33:12 AM Anyone know what the Snake was whinging about please? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on February 16, 2018, 07:52:47 PM Wright did shake his hand straight after Rob hit the winner, just wasn't going for it again when they were back at the table
The rucks are usually either for walking too close or for stomping around at the back. Watching it back he definitely didn't do either but Cross seems to have a sip of water after every single shot, must have been pissing like a racehorse at the worlds! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 18, 2018, 08:01:01 PM MVG does the double this weekend at the Players Championship.
Cadby made the final in the second, beating Gary Anderson on the way. I am very confident he will make the PL next year - wonder if there's a market for that yet? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 18, 2018, 08:05:16 PM yeh he looks legit, if you can get your foot under the door in the floor comps really sets you up, that's basically what Cross did, get used to winning and if you got talent the big stage performances will arrive eventually.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on March 02, 2018, 10:23:57 AM So the UK Open goes ahead but behind closed doors: https://twitter.com/OfficialPDC/status/969515858749018112
Gotta feel for the fans who are already there having battled the snow and getting there early! This announcement from Butlins 2 hours before the start is pretty poor. Love this tourn with the FA Cup feel to the draw, with anyone being able to draw anyone. Had tiny e/w outright punts on: Adrian Lewis 50/1, Jamie Lewis 100/1, Ian White 150/1, Ratajski (Polish MVG) @ 100/1 and De Zwaan @ 300/1. All start in the 3rd round and show up well on my 3 dart average stats from the floor tourns so far this year. Lets hope for some decent draws! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 02, 2018, 10:35:40 AM whoaoaoaoao
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 02, 2018, 11:21:09 AM The butlins chavs will be rioting when they can't get into the darts after travelling hours through the snow. Surely they will reverse this decision?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 02, 2018, 09:38:02 PM Lets hope for some decent draws! No need to hope mate! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on March 02, 2018, 09:43:49 PM Lets hope for some decent draws! No need to hope mate! haha go on Jeffrey lad. Having a decent evening on obscure outsiders with strong floor form against names (Meikle, Van Duijvenbode etc.). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on March 02, 2018, 09:47:26 PM Didn't realise Kirk Shepherd still played.
Is he still a regular pro? Had honestly assumed he'd retired years ago. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 02, 2018, 10:32:20 PM De Zwaan worth a tickle at 1000/1 for the worlds after that effort against MVG? Could he be this year's Rob Cross. He looked pretty cool throughout under pressure scoring and doubles wise.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 02, 2018, 10:40:58 PM Merv King looks big at 66/1 with bald for this weekend. They said in comm he arrived on Weds to dodge the snow and did his usual grind of practice and looked really good today against Barney. Shouldn't be this price for me in this weakened field.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 02, 2018, 10:46:42 PM Nice draw for the king.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 03, 2018, 01:15:12 AM De Zwaan worth a tickle at 1000/1 for the worlds after that effort against MVG? Could he be this year's Rob Cross. He looked pretty cool throughout under pressure scoring and doubles wise. Very impressed he swung that 56 in 2 darts. Was on him throughout the grand slam and he totally bottled it against Scotty shitdog after convincingly out playing him. Wasn't the first time in 2017 he'd ruined a dominating performance with a late game headloss. If that silly bit of nonsense gone from his game then he's a guy who can challenge top 16 for surrrrrre maybe even top 10 The young guys that grind the tour play so many games they get used to winning matches and I think it makes a big difference. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on March 22, 2018, 09:32:51 PM Love the darts.
If Cross wins by 2 or more legs. Win £12,500 from a £50 handicap acca! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on March 22, 2018, 09:34:35 PM Tried to deposit £2000 to do £800 draw and £800 win Price at 6.0 and a cover on correct score to lock up a few K but bookie rejected the bets. So I am in for the rollercoaster of my life
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on March 22, 2018, 09:36:15 PM Would normally be petrified, but after Cross delivered for us at Xmas I have no fear!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on March 22, 2018, 09:38:24 PM glgl!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on March 22, 2018, 09:43:43 PM GL Killer!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on March 22, 2018, 09:59:03 PM Easy, grats:D
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on March 22, 2018, 10:01:17 PM Nice one!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on March 22, 2018, 10:01:40 PM BOOOMIO!
Went 1-0 down with Cross throwing a bag of nails and nearly couldnt watch. Then was a relaxed ride! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on March 22, 2018, 10:02:02 PM Congrats!
Price +2.5 here so was rooting for the 7-5 :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on March 22, 2018, 10:03:34 PM Maybe next week, we could do something on here. Mini competiton?
Someone trusted hold the funds. Everyone submits a correct score for each game, each number of legs away from correct result is a point. Least points accrued wins? We do this at work and thats only reason I put that on. Needless to say I won the work comp too :-) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on March 22, 2018, 10:04:11 PM Congrats! Price +2.5 here so was rooting for the 7-5 :D The sicko in me wanted it abit closer! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: DMorgan on March 23, 2018, 09:28:05 AM Maybe next week, we could do something on here. Mini competiton? Someone trusted hold the funds. Everyone submits a correct score for each game, each number of legs away from correct result is a point. Least points accrued wins? We do this at work and thats only reason I put that on. Needless to say I won the work comp too :-) I'd happily run this for next weeks PL £10 in and a google doc, see how many we get Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on March 23, 2018, 12:44:02 PM Congrats Killer.
I had a nice win myself but had to settle for 4 figures instead of your epic 5. £10 trixie on match trebles. Bookies must have got pumped last night with healthy wins for MvG, Barney, Ando and Cross. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on March 23, 2018, 12:49:38 PM Love the darts. If Cross wins by 2 or more legs. Win £12,500 from a £50 handicap acca! Boom, well done! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on May 10, 2018, 07:18:22 PM Oioi!
Who is watching tonight any thoughts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on May 10, 2018, 08:19:41 PM Nooooo please not tonight when I'm not on the draws yankee..
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on May 10, 2018, 08:31:31 PM Nooooo please not tonight when I'm not on the draws yankee.. My thoughts exactly! Didnt expect the Cross one but the others looked like draw potential too Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on May 10, 2018, 09:16:08 PM ;frustrated; ;frustrated; ;frustrated;
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on May 10, 2018, 09:21:58 PM ;frustrated; ;frustrated; ;frustrated; +1 ;booboo; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on May 10, 2018, 09:53:48 PM Can't happen. Never in doubt! only went evens in running the 600/1 acca. Still to be done. Will it ever be done?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ledders on May 10, 2018, 10:24:08 PM for fucks sake the treble would have done nicely
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 08, 2018, 12:00:38 AM https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/pdc-world-matchplay/world-matchplay/winner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Matchplay_(darts) One of the most lopsided draws ever form wise in the world matchplay. Draw just been made this week. Rob Cross is an incredible price ew in the bottom half. 7/1 1/2 1,2 at 365/victor is incredible ew value. Most firms are 1/3 1,2 so beware. 7/1 1/2 1,2 probably better than 8/1 1/3 1,2 at betfair sportsbook. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 12, 2018, 03:10:28 PM Yeh. Top half is absolute carnage.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2018, 03:49:23 PM Was in a Yates bar last night watching the football (see how the other half live!) and there was an advert in the toilets for sky sports darts and Jackpot was the poster boy for it! Maybe he isn't totally gone at the game after all!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 12, 2018, 04:20:30 PM Halfway point! Rankings update!!
After the World Champs, the rankings had gone through a bit of turmoil, the three biggest points were Rob Cross' remarkable rise to world #3, Adrian Lewis' remarkable fall to world #20 and of course Phil Taylor giving nearly everyone a leg up by exiting the rankings ranked world #5. Life right at the top is barely even worth discussing, MVG sits over £1m clear and his relentless hoovering up of majors and ranking events (already with 12 ranking victories this yr already, in the "quiet time" with a relatively low particpation rate (for him) he was always going to be somewhat un-moveable. However, 2016 was a real champagne year for the green machine, he won every major (bar the inaugural champions league) including the worlds, so whereas he's the one man you can always trust to defend ranking money, it's actually very difficult for him to add to his ranking tally this year (bar the inflated prize money) and he'd need a clean sweep of the majors. Rob Cross, who started the year with £1.2m to make up on mighty mike was the only man with a shot given he is defending £0. We're at the halfway stage and Cross, who despite convincingly demonstrating that he is in fact world class and almost certainly here to stay has actually been relatively lacklustre. His floor form (which was imperious in 2017) has been fairly sketchy and he's actually been very poor on the Euro tour, and wasn't able to capitalise on MVG early exit from the bizarre UK open this year. He's only added £70k to his tally so far and MVG has very impressively managed to increase his by £3000! Sounds like nothing but when you're basically defending top prize every week that is some feat! The guy is just different league. One man, who was potentially getting himself in a bit of bother this year Gary Anderson. Thanks to Rob Cross he finds himself #4 which puts him on course to MVG at the semi's of the majors, and with Gary playing a much lighter schedule than his fellow top 6 sub-standard performance in the majors could end up seeing Gary slip down to the back end of the top 16, and with his commitment to the tour fairly limited at best I have serious doubts if he'd ever be back to the top of the rankings. I don't know if this has motivated him or not but he's certainly started the year with a lot of bite, he was able to capitalise on the bizzare goings on at minehead and canter through a pretty weak draw to pick up the opening major of the year, along with 5 pro tour wins and he's stuck £90k onto his tally. Gurney has added about £15k to his total so far this year and isn't really looking too dangerous , Mensur looks the more likely to challenge him but he is defending a fair whack this year and realistically it looks like the top 4 is staying where it is. The biggest bit of bother facing anyone was Adrian Lewis, down to world #20 and starting to really drift away from the world top 16, and right at the head of a VERY competitive bunch right behind him, combined with lots of doubts over his work ethic and rumours of him still nursing a bit of a back problem which lead him to need to change his throw slightly, things were looking extremely ropey for Jackpot. His first contribution of the year of any note was his (seemingly random) outburst on Jose Justica in a UK open qualifier, like many I had my head in my hands and felt like his head was just rolling. Since then howeverthings have been pretty much consistently promising for him, he got very unlucky @ the UK open when the draw really opened up for him, ran into Dirk Van Duijvenbode in inspired form and did pretty much nothing wrong there, played 4/6 UK open qual, all 16 pro tours, making 2 finals and 3 semi's (which is actually no mean feat with his ranking) and featured in 5/8 of the euro tours, making a final and a semi. He's put £21k onto his rankings and JUST crept back into the world top 16, unfortunately that gives him the pleasure of an MVG 2nd round meeting at the matchplay which is the first really big money spot of the year. All in all, I would say the future looks fairly good for Jackpot. 1 man who deserves huge credit thus year is James Wade, 12 months ago I was backing him to lose in nearly every game, despite some tiny improvements in the back end of last year, the future was looking very grim for Wadey, who was sliding dangerously out of the top 16 and I genuinely thought this was going to be the start of fairly swift death. 2018 though has seen him totally re-born, and he's been putting in some great performances and result (whilst not being particularly notable) have been solid enough to see him back into the top 10. Just like Lewis his work ethic has been extremely good, barely missing anything and now he's back seeded for the Euros with the way he's playing I think he's got a solid, solid chance of building on his top 10 spot this year. Few people making some good moves so far this year are; Darren Webster, who's shot himself into the top 16 now and is proving himself to be a real nasty draw for anyone, Ian White who remains one of the most consistent guys on the floor but falling short in the majors which is what stops him from progressing into the top 10, there is no doubt he is good enough. Gerwyn Price (despite his total headloss fro the PL) has started to re-find some form and moved himself to #12, Johny Clayton won a euro tour and is now challenging the pack just behind the top 16, and Jermaine Wattimena is putting a string of good performances together and he is making a move. Benito van de Pas has really fallen away, his new darts which he said would eliminate bounceouts are just not working at all, Barney has basically just not played participating in only 8 ranking events so far this year and not qualifying for any of the four euro tours he attempted, Dimitri van den Bergh promised great things at the back end of last year but has been extremely poor on the floor so far, he was outstanding at the world cup, nearly won the german masters and continues to put in 105+ perofrmances on stage, unfortunately his floor form isn't there and as a result he's a million miles from a matchplay slot, even though he'd start as a favrouite vs the vast majority of the field. Darts these days is so competitive. Guys to watch coming into the "business" half of the year; 1. Jermaine Wattimena 2. James Wade 3. Max Hopp 4. Ian White 5. Darren Webster Guys to worry for; 1. Chizzy 2. Barney 3. Jelle Klaasen 4. Benito van de Pas 5. Robert Thornton Guys who are ranked way below their ability and need a push from; 1. Dimitri van den Bergh - #37 2. Chris Dobey - #33 3. Steve Lennon - #48 4. Joe Cullen - #18 5. Steve West - #25 With Matchplay coming along, great spot for anyone, especially in the bottom half of the to make some moves! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on July 12, 2018, 04:54:29 PM Sick write up as per Dave, ty!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 12, 2018, 05:55:10 PM Matchplay!
The top half of the draw is absolute mayhem, MVG is a justified favourite, his draw is horrid but he won't care, he cannot be odds on for this tournament with the draw he has so "The Field" vs MVG @ 2.0 on Bet365 looks automatically good value to me, even though the market is 1.72/2.0 and opposing MVG typically never ends well for any of us :D Gary has an even worse draw and a terrible record here, not for me at 11/2, the top half horrors also rule out Barney/Smith/Lewis/Gurney for me. Gonna be some great games here! By contrast, the bottom half is full of great EW shouts, the third quarter looks to be the weakest by a long way, Jelle and Big Hendo @ 200/1 and 250/1 are clear swerves, Jelle cannot hack it in the long formats following his wrist injury, and a first round tie against Wright isn't gonna get him going much. Hendo is capable of beating anyone but he's notoriously poor in hot conditions and the winter gardens tends to be incredibly hot, loads of spots for outside pokes on big John, but blackpool defo not the place! Richard North is a guy with a lot of potential, and an opener vs an inconsistent Whitlock might give him some momentum alongside a pleasant draw, however it's too early for him, big questions over his bottle and he runs out of steam too early. Wouldn't be surprised to see him cause some problems but even at 200s im staying well away. Kim @ 125s looks pretty good when he has a good opener vs Hendo (even though being in the evening should be a little cooler for JH) and he's in some OK form, just not got the consistency for me even at 3figure price. When I first saw the draw I thought we'd have a great price on Wadey, but 33s just too skinny, Whitlock has the easier opener and is 80s so I cant really see any reason to back Wade at more than half the price. Jermaine Wattimena is a man on a mission right now and proving very hard to beat, in this quarter, even with a very tough opener 300/1 looks very attractive. No doubting that Peter Wright has the easiest draw in the competition, however all the confusion surrounding which darts he uses and his wobbly mental game just makes me so nervous backing him, he knows how to get a win though even when things ain't quite going his way which is a nice skill for a tournament like this... The bottom quarter is definately tougher than this one, the easy ones to rule out for me are Beaton and King - both have terrible records here, both do not tend to be as effective in the long formats these days and King in particular also struggles in the heat, even though his opener is @ 9pm and Cross does always feel beatable these days despite the attractive 200/1 & 150/1 prices these two not for me. I could get persuaded for basically anyone else in this quarter, Mensur @ 28s is interesting, his draw is kinda good and he has been absolutely awesome recently, I have to imagine he was offered a spot @ Shanghai and Vegas but refused. He's not starting as a dog to anyone bar Wright or Cross in this half and he certainly isn't anywhere near 2/1 vs either of them. Not going to the World Series might give him a real edge here too. This might just be Ian White's time, for him to have never made a major semi final is close to a disgrace for a player of his quality, his tour form has been great this year, he also has the advantage of no travelling to the WSOD events and his draw is also kinda ok. 80s a big price for an EW punt. Darren Webster has quietly turned himself into quite the dangerous player, unfortunately for him his draw isn't THAT great but he put in a great performance last year and he's so hard to beat, another very tempting big EW price @150/1. Max Hopp and Steve Lennon are 200/1 and 300/1 respectively. Hopp this year is totally new man, shame he's just dropped his form a little and his most likely route to the semi is White/Mensur/Cross so not this time for me, although I wouldnt be surprised to see myself backing him for something this year! Lennon just made an ET final and gave MVG a good game, 300/1 is massive but again quite a tricky draw and I do worry about his nerves. Rob Cross...... on form will walk through this half without blinking, but he's become very prone to throwing real howlers in and winning games doesn't always look as easy as it did 12 months ago for him...his path is ful of guys like Webster, King, White, etc where if you don't play well you tend to get to get beat, not to mention Mensur on riotous form and Peter Wright is very tough to beat in the long format games. Long format and 1 game/day will defo play to his strengths though so I think it's a very attractive EW bet but not without some worries, Rob Cross EW also has the advantage that should he get to the final vs MVG he is for sure the most likely to actually win that game! So to summarise! Hopp, Lennon both just run into too much trouble early and Hopp has just dropped off a little, 200s/300s tempting as hell but not this time. Wattimena has a much easier draw so I don't see any reason to back either of those 2 over him at the big prices... White and Whitlcok both 80s, Whte is playing better and more consistent but Whitlock has the easier draw and White major tournament voodoo might be a factor, I realllllly wanna back White but common sense just tells me that Whitlock is the better bet. Peter Wright has the best draw and on paper looks the best EW bet on the card @ 10/1 even though there is the random Wright factor which has smashed into loads of bets over the years :D I think by far the most likely big price to cause an upset in this half of the draw is Darren Webster, wish it was 200s but 150s is enough for me to get stuck in. I'd reccommend; Small bet Field vs MVG 2.0 Reasonably big bet winning quarter 4th quarter 5/1 Medium Peter Wright 10/1 EW Medium Mensur Suljovic 28/1 EW Small Darren Webster 150/1 EW Small Jermaine Wattimena 300/1 EW I genuinely cannot explain why I'm going White 80/1 over Whitlock 80/1 but I am....perhaps I just don't like Whitlock that much because i lose every bet he's involved in !!!! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2018, 09:20:55 PM great write ups as ever Dave. Thanks for posting. The extreme summer heat def put me off Hendo at a huge price.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 13, 2018, 12:29:02 PM Really like two bets today on the darts;
Siego Asada / Peter Wright O8.5 legs Evens (b365) and Roydon Lam / Gary Anderson O7.5 legs 5/6 Both guys can suffer from tiredness and Gary is notorious for never practising during heavy travel schedules. Both these players are accomplished in asian darts, and both have competed on the world cup and have experience playing on stage and vs big PDC guys. I also have had a small bit of Cross 6-0 @ 9/4 from brief clip of this guy he looks to play quite quick and usually it's the slow qualifiers that upset the big guys. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on July 13, 2018, 03:02:48 PM Really like two bets today on the darts; Siego Asada / Peter Wright O8.5 legs Evens (b365) and Roydon Lam / Gary Anderson O7.5 legs 5/6 Both guys can suffer from tiredness and Gary is notorious for never practising during heavy travel schedules. Both these players are accomplished in asian darts, and both have competed on the world cup and have experience playing on stage and vs big PDC guys. I also have had a small bit of Cross 6-0 @ 9/4 from brief clip of this guy he looks to play quite quick and usually it's the slow qualifiers that upset the big guys. Good darts :)up Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 22, 2018, 01:11:25 PM Nice start MVG busto'd the first night. What a chance for Jackpot to luck box his way into a result with him dodging the dreaded '16 seed' spot in the second round. He really really needs to get his head down this week.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 22, 2018, 10:00:57 PM Such a bizarre game, the highest average of the first round so far, seemed to have the game under control but then out of nowhere just didn't. Darts is tough, you give people darts to win legs consistently then you'l get beat. Blackpool such a tough venue, Gary averaged under 97 but it looked like a 100+.
One of the biggestthings that I was considering before this was how the WSOD gys would be in this early round after some intense travelling over the past 2 weeks, MVG didn't look great in Vegas, Shanghai or here and I think the travelling toko its tole a bit, combined with a young family, heavy schedule etc, no surprise he's struggled - more of a surprise it doesn't affect more. Micheal Smith and Gary Anderson have exactly the same situation (maybe a little less intense) each won a WSOD event, and put in two of the best performances of the round. Price looked really struggling, he's been nursing his injury for a while but i think he was mostly just knackered, tough to know exactly how Gurney was affected - he hasn't been in great form but got the job done here and there, he played poorly but won, so fair play. Think it's all going to give Wade and Wright a nice advantage them having 2 extra days to chill out will be nice, Wade must realllllly realllllllly fancy this, in good form at one of his favourite venues.... can't wait to see how he plays. The age old question too, what darts will Peter Wright use?? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 23, 2018, 07:34:03 AM Such a bizarre game, the highest average of the first round so far, seemed to have the game under control but then out of nowhere just didn't. Darts is tough, you give people darts to win legs consistently then you'l get beat. Blackpool such a tough venue, Gary averaged under 97 but it looked like a 100+. One of the biggestthings that I was considering before this was how the WSOD gys would be in this early round after some intense travelling over the past 2 weeks, MVG didn't look great in Vegas, Shanghai or here and I think the travelling toko its tole a bit, combined with a young family, heavy schedule etc, no surprise he's struggled - more of a surprise it doesn't affect more. Micheal Smith and Gary Anderson have exactly the same situation (maybe a little less intense) each won a WSOD event, and put in two of the best performances of the round. Price looked really struggling, he's been nursing his injury for a while but i think he was mostly just knackered, tough to know exactly how Gurney was affected - he hasn't been in great form but got the job done here and there, he played poorly but won, so fair play. Think it's all going to give Wade and Wright a nice advantage them having 2 extra days to chill out will be nice, Wade must realllllly realllllllly fancy this, in good form at one of his favourite venues.... can't wait to see how he plays. The age old question too, what darts will Peter Wright use?? Was sat next to a group of lads yesterday who said they were out on the piss when Gerwyn Price until 5am the night before. He was visibly limping as he came off for breaks and looked absolutely green on stage. Sure the heat was enjoyable for him......... Atmosphere was incredible yesterday afternoon. Going again tonight, let's get big Hendo home for a wheelbarrow job. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 23, 2018, 09:53:32 AM that explains a lot then! He's been carrying this injury for ages and has put in some decent performances in spite of it - however, hangover/jetlag/sore foot is gonna catch up with you eventually :D
Can't really get behind big Hendo tonight, his recent form is a bit iffy (not that it's that important) and he is close to useless in hot conditions, if you watch the euro tours, one of the easiest bets in the world is to google weather forecast in the morning, if its anywhere near 25 degrees lay hendo and it's pretty much impeccable system. That being said I can't get too enthusiastically behind Kim either given how easy he seems to find it to lose any game, to any one, at any time. Gonna look at a big handicap for Wright tonight, Klaasen likes big stages and has had 5 leg flashes of brilliance this year (albeit sporadic) and PW might be using home-made darts his 4yr old Nephew made, but can't see Jelle passing 85 average and that should get you sent home pretty quick against Wright whatever he's using. Nothing on the outrights stands out from the other two, wouldn't put anyone off a cuple of small win pokes on Watty and North, Wade just looks like a new man though and whitlock despite inconsistency is pretty tough to beat playing someone vastly improving but a little inexperienced. Wheelbarrow staying indoors tonight. It's been moving around plenty over past 48 hours though! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 23, 2018, 10:26:11 AM that explains a lot then! He's been carrying this injury for ages and has put in some decent performances in spite of it - however, hangover/jetlag/sore foot is gonna catch up with you eventually :D Can't really get behind big Hendo tonight, his recent form is a bit iffy (not that it's that important) and he is close to useless in hot conditions, if you watch the euro tours, one of the easiest bets in the world is to google weather forecast in the morning, if its anywhere near 25 degrees lay hendo and it's pretty much impeccable system. That being said I can't get too enthusiastically behind Kim either given how easy he seems to find it to lose any game, to any one, at any time. Gonna look at a big handicap for Wright tonight, Klaasen likes big stages and has had 5 leg flashes of brilliance this year (albeit sporadic) and PW might be using home-made darts his 4yr old Nephew made, but can't see Jelle passing 85 average and that should get you sent home pretty quick against Wright whatever he's using. Nothing on the outrights stands out from the other two, wouldn't put anyone off a cuple of small win pokes on Watty and North, Wade just looks like a new man though and whitlock despite inconsistency is pretty tough to beat playing someone vastly improving but a little inexperienced. Wheelbarrow staying indoors tonight. It's been moving around plenty over past 48 hours though! Kim can't win in Blackpool.! I don't know what it is about the Winter Gardens, but I just back his opponent blind every year. Just so happened to be Big John this year but agree on the heat. When I saw the draw I was tempted to load up on Wattimena but didn't pull the trigger. Wade just one of these guys who seems to find a way to win these type of games. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 23, 2018, 12:10:33 PM Yeah, also if you been following the Euro/Pro Tour Wade is rejuvenated at the moment, really is playing really good. You need a 97+ average to beat him I think and Watty got it in the locker but I just don't know if he can do it on this stage for 16+ legs.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jono3131 on July 25, 2018, 06:00:31 PM Any thoughts on tonight? Fancy an armchair punt!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 25, 2018, 09:30:25 PM Have a little Huybrechts +3.5 if you there is 4/5 or better around.
Quite ike O17.5 legs here if you can get 4/5 also, Webster likes a scrap Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 25, 2018, 10:29:16 PM I'd reccommend; Small bet Field vs MVG 2.0 Reasonably big bet winning quarter 4th quarter 5/1 Medium Peter Wright 10/1 EW Medium Mensur Suljovic 28/1 EW Small Darren Webster 150/1 EW Small Jermaine Wattimena 300/1 EW Comonnnnnnn Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 25, 2018, 10:51:32 PM Wesbter was my worry backing Cross ew. He really is still massively under the radar Webster relative to his ranking and performances.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 26, 2018, 10:16:37 AM Cross just not at the races at all last night.
Wright looked great, think he's settled on his darts finally. My 'man in the know' rang me last night in a fit of hysterics. Apparently after losing, Wade went straight into the car park behind the Winter Gardens and kicked the crap out of his car. He then screamed at a bunch of lads trying to get a selfie before the security team got hold of him and whisked him away. Going again tonight, tough life :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 26, 2018, 03:03:18 PM Cross just not at the races at all last night. Wright looked great, think he's settled on his darts finally. My 'man in the know' rang me last night in a fit of hysterics. Apparently after losing, Wade went straight into the car park behind the Winter Gardens and kicked the crap out of his car. He then screamed at a bunch of lads trying to get a selfie before the security team got hold of him and whisked him away. Going again tonight, tough life :) Last night pretty much summed up Cross’ year. No consistency at all. It’s been the same in the Euro Tours. Turns up and looks great one game then sticks in a 90 ave and goes out next round. The PL obviously upset his routine at the start of the year but he still hasn’t been able to find any sort of consistency from game to game never mind week to week. Snakebite has used the darts twice. Not sure that constitutes settling on them. I’d happily have the absolute lot on him having changed darts at least once between now and the WGP. It’s what he does. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on July 26, 2018, 03:55:05 PM I’d happily have the absolute lot on him having changed darts at least once between now and the WGP. It’s what he does. How long will it stay a negative in Mardle's eyes if he keeps banging in 108 averages I wonder. Was loving this tournament when MVG went out, had a real feel of "anyone can win" but now Anderson and Wright seem to have stepped up and falsified that. Still been some quality matches, roll on tonight. Come on Cullen! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 26, 2018, 07:02:39 PM Mensur is a SUPER live runner in this. I've been saying it for weeks!!!!!! GO ON MENSUR!
Wright's darts shenanigans is a big negative i think, nothing to do with the equipment it's all about his mental state - he just doesn't have the belief in his game to stand up and say "i'm world number 2 come at me" he's consistently changing, I believe to always have validation for a poor performance, "Wright changed his darts again and averaged 91 got beat by Steve Beaton" Sounds a lot better than... "Wright wasn't good enough today" He really does have the weakest mental game of anyone in the top 6 which considering he's absolute clutch in the past at big moments is a real shame. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on July 27, 2018, 08:43:07 AM Wow - bucket list job last night.
A live 9 darter............. it went OFF in the Winter Gardens! Best darts venue in the UK in my opinion. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: dino1980 on July 28, 2018, 07:54:29 PM Incredible first three darts by Wright! https://twitter.com/officialpdc/status/1023272702176505856?s=12
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on July 29, 2018, 05:19:40 PM Bookies have the final priced up like it’s all over. Can Mensur turn it on?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2018, 07:48:03 PM for sure, Gary might have historically struggled vs Mensur but Mensur a different guy now and he and GAry have played plenty so I don't think too much of that nowadays. Mensur is a very sticky customer and hard to shake off, GAry usually gives you 1-2 chances a game and Mensur a legit winner these days. Mensur's biggest strength is his clutch doubles, if Gary turns on the scoring jets then Mensur will not be able to keep up and will have to take out the 121's, 136's etc to stay in it, but he;s no slouch on the scoring either this yr (one of the most improved 180 hitters on tour) if he can cling on and not get totally battered when Gary goes on his hot streak (which seems inevitable) and pick up a few more of the scrappy legs.... then I think Mensur has a real chance.
In reality, I think Mensur will cling on tight for the first 20-24 legs, potentially even be 13-11 ~ up, but then Gary will have one big spell deep that will kill it off, I think Gary will find that little extra when it matters and that will likely be what wins this. Mensur can win this game though, absolutely no doubting that - and Gary Anderson will be well aware. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 30, 2018, 10:05:36 AM Wow what a tournament, absolutely loved it, amazing final.
Gary a legitimately deserving winner, pretty sure he played the best darts, show the most bottle, rode his luck and contributed to the best games. Barney game, Cullen game, de Zwaan game and the final vs Mensur were all incredible games! I think in the fall out of the Matchplay there will be a few people highly disappointed, I think most upset with his showing will be Micheal Smith - fresh of a win in the WSOD, PL final and what was shaping up to be a real stand-out year, the draw opened right up in front of him and he's got his eye firmly set on Chizzy and Whitlock #8 and #7 ahead of him, to ultimately go out to Chizzy in a game he for sure thinks he should have won, if he's pushing a a top 6 spot he's gonna have to take advantage of opportunities like this. Another person who will be fuming is Adrian Lewis, he had the toughest draw but again it opened up for him, having just crept back into the top 16 and showing some good form he's let Webster and Cullen leap frog him and now he's outside the top 16 again, back to the floor grind for Jackpot but he's gonna need to put in a major run at some point, I still have faith though, I think we'll see him back towards the top 10 after the worlds. Rob Cross... A tournament that pretty much summed up his year, brilliant in round 1 and then couldn't hold it together vs a tough opponent in the 2nd - this is darts in 2018, the top 16 (24 to 40 too) is littered with players who can turn over anyone if they dont play at least a solid B+ game and Cross' inconsistency is his downfall this year. He' still on his freeroll year of no ranking money losses and his hunt for world #2 seems somewhat inevitable but he keeps letting chances to over-take PW slip him by. He really wants to consolidate on last years success as he has £600,000 to defend in 2019. Obviously most delighted will be Mensur and Gary - Mensur, who is defending a fair bit of money this year, is putting some great showings in and improving, Gurney, who is still above him @ #5 is on the decline for prize money and Mensur after his final is now £14k off Gurney, I think we'll see Mensur as world #5 pretty soon and I think he's probably the 5th best player on the world on merit. Gary, who after a below par worlds for him, with back injury worries, looked like he was potentially facing a slip down the top 10, after his dusted a 5-1 lead to lose 7-5 to Smith on night 1 of the premier league (a match which might have been a very significant match for the course of the year!) things didn't look too rosy for Gary's rankings future. 4 Ranking wins, a WSOD win and both Majors later, Gary's looking very good and a near £200k buffer over Daryl and Mensur in #5 #4 should be plenty to keep himself @ #4 for the rest of the year bar any disastrous major results. £65k behind Cross is too big of a bridge with Voltage defending nothing, and the £105k lead Wright has over him, given Wright plays a much bigger schedule and Gary is defending final money at the worlds mean I think Gary will have to settle for world #4 for the time being. I'm particularly happy for Joe Cullen, finally in the world top 16 after touching it for years, his floor form has always kept him in the top 24 but his lack of composure in the majors has halted his climb up the rankings, after a strong year on the euro tour and a quarter final here, he has a great platform now to build and try look to a top 10 - it's a very tough field he is in though so a month of bad form and you're probably out of there. Darren Websters great year and solid tournament has him with a decent buffer (~£38k) in the top 16, and he's another one with his sights on the top 10, and rightly so. One of the big, if not biggest stories of the tournament was Jeffrey de Zwaan, MVG, Lewis, Chisnall, and then rampant Gary Anderson finally stopped him, a good showing at the GSOD last yr, beaton MVG in rnd 1 of BOTH majors this year (incredible) certainly looks like a man to replace Barney on the World cup team eventually....that being said, he's still world #50, and as we say so many times the floors and the euros in how you move up the rankings, he's fairly locked for a Grand Prix spot and seems to love the big stage... £180k off the top 16 is a big gap. Month of from rankings darts now, the WSOD tours down under, never quite the drama of a ranking major, but usually some cracking little tournaments. We also get to see what sort of nick Corey Cadby is in following his return to AUS over last 3-4 months... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 30, 2018, 10:42:38 AM The OOM is in real danger of just being about turning up at the world's and getting a result. The prize money is so weighed to the world's its crazy. The Matchplay should legit be a £200k ftw and £100k for 2nd and £50k for semis imo. It is crazy it isn't far off prize money wise the other 'sky majors'. It should be head and shoulders in 2nd place. This would in turn make the overall rankings less subject to variance imo.
Great summary of the week Dave. Always enjoy reading your thoughts as they are usually pretty similar to mine. #rankingsnerds Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 30, 2018, 10:54:53 AM when does Gurney's money start falling off? I think he is due a big correction. Don't think having a kid will help him much either. His missus always looks really intense/needy in the crowd during the walk ons. You know my views on him generally are that he is over rated.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on July 30, 2018, 10:58:16 AM Cheers for the tips and the write up lil Dave, great stuff.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 30, 2018, 10:49:14 PM when does Gurney's money start falling off? I think he is due a big correction. Don't think having a kid will help him much either. His missus always looks really intense/needy in the crowd during the walk ons. You know my views on him generally are that he is over rated. world this year he's defending 1/4 final money, then last year was his breakout year, if he doesn't add some money to it this year, and fails to reclaim the form of last year he's in realy danger of the blunt end of the top 16, it's so competitive 24-10 that you can't really have a year off, unless you follow it up with a big major result or happen to be MVG with a £1m buffer :) Agree Arb r.e the prize money, this year, the world champion for £0 would go to world #5, should be more money available for the others (I know easier said than done) but a bad showing at the worlds can ruin years, and vica versa. LOVVVVVVVVEE the darts though, what a sport! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on July 31, 2018, 08:39:12 PM Yeah the Worlds is far too top heavy and it’s only going to get worse. Barry is obsessed with the big number for winning the Worlds rather than redistributing the money across the other major tournaments.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2018, 09:54:27 PM Yeah the Worlds is far too top heavy and it’s only going to get worse. Barry is obsessed with the big number for winning the Worlds rather than redistributing the money across the other major tournaments. Matchplay is tougher to win for me with the heat and leg format than the worlds. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 05, 2018, 08:51:32 PM yeah, infinately harder just to qualify for the matchplay than the worlds too. Its a completely brutal format, 10 years ago when there wasnt a lot of competition outside the top 10 i think was a different story, nowadays with the outrageous competitiveness from 8-40 and how greulling the pro tour is there really are no easy games, certainly no gimme games for the seeds.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 19, 2018, 03:27:38 PM Business End of Year Begins Now!!
This is the league table for who is defending what between now and the end of the worlds; 1 Michael van Gerwen Netherlands £821,000 2 Gary Anderson Scotland £243,500 3 Peter Wright Scotland £177,250 4 Raymond van Barneveld Netherlands £144,250 5 James Wade England £131,750 6 Mensur Suljovic Austria £125,000 7 Dave Chisnall England £124,000 8 Alan Norris England £109,000 9 Kim Huybrechts Belgium £85,750 10 Benito van de Pas Netherlands £82,000 11 Simon Whitlock Australia £80,500 12 Jelle Klaasen Netherlands £77,500 13 Phil Taylor England £75,500 14 Daryl Gurney Northern Ireland £74,000 15 Darren Webster England £62,000 16 James Wilson England £59,000 17 Ian White England £58,750 18 Brendan Dolan Northern Ireland £54,500 19 Joe Cullen England £54,000 20 Chris Dobey England £52,750 21 Gerwyn Price Wales £51,500 22 Adrian Lewis England £49,750 23 Michael Smith England £49,000 24 Stephen Bunting England £48,500 If you deducted the defending money from the players, the PDC OOM would look like this 1 - 1 Michael van Gerwen Netherlands £872,750 2 - 3 Rob Cross England £700,000 3 - 2 Peter Wright Scotland £569,500 4 - 4 Gary Anderson Scotland £379,500 5 - 5 Daryl Gurney Northern Ireland £364,750 6 - 6 Mensur Suljovic Austria £301,500 7 - 9 Michael Smith England £256,000 8 - 7 Simon Whitlock Australia £241,500 9 -12 Gerwyn Price Wales £216,000 10 - 13 Ian White England £204,250 11 - 14 Darren Webster England £197,250 12 - 8 Dave Chisnall England £184,750 13 - 16 Joe Cullen England £176,000 14 - 23 Johnny Clayton Wales £168,750 15 - 18 Adrian Lewis England £165,000 16 - 10 James Wade England £164,250 17 - 21 Mervyn King England £153,750 18 - 20 Stephen Bunting England £147,000 19 - 27 John Henderson Scotland £146,000 20 - 15 Kim Huybrechts Belgium £145,000 21 - 25 Steve Beaton England £136,000 22 - 26 Kyle Anderson Australia £134,750 23 - 11 Raymond van Barneveld Netherlands £131,750 24 - 24 Steve West England £131,000 A few others to mention are; Chris Dobey, who's defending £56k out of £136k, Dimitri van den Bergh, defending £26k out of £113k Brendan Dolan defending £54k to of £11k, James Wilson defending £59k out of £156k, Cristo Reyes & Robert Thornton both defending £46k out of £146k. The Rankings Majors we have coming up with prize pools are; Grand Prix 30th September Winner £100,000 Runner-up £45,000 Semi-finalist £23,500 Quarter-finalist £15,000 Second round losers £8,500 First round losers £5,000 European Championship 25th October Winner £100,000 Final £40,000 Semi Final £20,000 Quarter Final £15,000 Last 16 £10,000 Last 32 £5,000 Grand Slam of Darts 11th Novemeber Winner £110,000 Final £55,000 Semi Final £28,500 Quarter Final £16,000 Last 16 £10,000 Last 32 Group 3rd £5,000 Last 32 Group 4th £3,000 Group Winner Bonus £2,500 Players Championships 23rd Novemeber Winner £100,000 Final £40,000 Semi Final £23,000 Quarter Final £12,500 Last 16 £8,000 Last 32 £5,000 Last 64 £2,500 As well as 6 more Player Championship Tournaments, and 4 more Euro Tour events. As you would expect, most of the top players are gtd to be in all the majors, however a few worrying ommissions; The Grand Prix: Currently Kyle Anderson, Jelle Klaasen, Benito van de Pas, and Dimitri van den Bergh are all some way off qualifying, Jamie Lewis and Vincent van der Voort are both under £1000 off sneaking in, Dimitri would need £10k minimum to get himself in. The European Championships: The two biggest names that don't look likely to be turning up are Gary Anderson and Raymond van Barnevald. Gary makes a conscious decision not to play on the Euro Tour and you could argue it wouldn't take a schedule or more than 2-3 tournaments a yr to get himself there, RVB on the otherhand has failed at the qualification stage a few times and having nicked his way into 1 petered out early. Unlike Gary who's stronghold in the world top 10 is under little to no threat this year, Barney's place in the top 16 is at huge risk and not being in this tournament (especially having tried to qualify) is close to a disaster for him. Others who really should be there but aren't are; Jamie Lewis, Dimitri van den Bergh, Josh Payne and Krystof Ratajski. Jamie Lewis and Dimitri are both players who enjoy stage darts more than the floor, are young, motivated to travel and extremely talented, guys like Chris Dobey, Willie O'Connor, Luke Humphries are in the same boat and have managed to build secure themselves a place. Grand Slam of Darts: One of the tougher ones to get yourself in, Barney is in on the grace of his World Cup win, Ian White, Mervyn King, Jeffrey de Zwaan and even old boy Mickey Mansell are in there, Corey Cadby is in there if he can get his visa issues fixed, Dimitri's world youth title gets him a gtd spot too. People currently missing though are; James Wade, Simon Whitlock, Dave Chisnall and Daryl Gurney - thats 4 of the top 10 in the world currently not in there, which is kinda crazy. Euro Tour, PPC win, or a Final in the Champs League, Grand Prix, World Series or Euros and some qualifers are the remaining chances, so wouldn't be surprised to see at least 2 of them sneak in. Others not in are; Adrian Lewis, Darren Webster, Kim Huybrechts and Joe Cullen. Players Championships: Barney is the only high profile missing man from this, and he's miles off too, currently 117th on the Pro Tour OOM with £5500 in prize money, he'll need to add £28-30k at least to get himself in and that really takes a bit of doing, yet another ranking tournament he wont be in during a very tough period for him. Then we have the yearly get out of jail card for someone.... World Championships 13th December. Winner (1) £500,000 Runner-up (1) £200,000 Semi-finalist (2) £100,000 Quarter-finalist (4) £50,000 Fourth round losers (8) £35,000 Third round losers (16) £25,000 Second round losers (32) £15,000 First round losers (32) £7,500 Everyone is in it, everyone gunning for it, and this is going to be the biggest ever, you need to reach the semis of the Grand Slam and Grand Prix combined to make as much as a 1/4 final here. Like Arbboy said, crazy weight on the worlds, but it can shoot guys in and out of the top 16, and the draw is crucial, with dangerous players all over the place no-one gtd an easy quarter final run any more! This is my predicted post WC rankings; 1. MVG 2. Rob Cross 3. Peter Wright 4. Gary Anderson 5. Mensur Suljovic 6. Micheal Smith 7. Daryl Gurney 8. Simon Whitlock 9. Darren Webster 10. Ian White 11. Adrian Lewis 12. James Wade 13. Dave Chisnall 14. Gerwyn Price 15. Joe Cullen 16. Johny Clayton Anyone else wanna post some guesses :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on August 20, 2018, 12:34:37 PM Too good!
Barney is in a world of hurt. He’s almost certain to be drinking in the last chance saloon at the Worlds where he’s going to need a deep run. An early exit and he’s outside the top 16 and pretty much screwed given his schedule and struggles on the floor. At his age I can’t see him grinding on the tour to get back in the top 16. I suspect if he goes out early in wolrds we won’t see too much more of him on TV. Chuck, VDP and Klaasen in real bother too given their current form. Euro Tour back soon. I’ve been starting to get withdrawal symptoms. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Tal on August 20, 2018, 12:55:21 PM Fantastic read, Lil'D. Thanks.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Teacake on August 20, 2018, 05:30:49 PM The detail in these write ups is something else, great stuff.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on August 21, 2018, 01:31:10 PM https://www.live-darts.com/category/off-the-oche/twelve-year-old-prodigy-wins-cambridgeshire-open-20180820/
A 12 year old beating "Rapid" Ricky Evans must've been amusing to watch. He will be able to buy a lot of strawberry bonbons with £1,000! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 22, 2018, 03:55:49 PM Too good! Barney is in a world of hurt. He’s almost certain to be drinking in the last chance saloon at the Worlds where he’s going to need a deep run. An early exit and he’s outside the top 16 and pretty much screwed given his schedule and struggles on the floor. At his age I can’t see him grinding on the tour to get back in the top 16. I suspect if he goes out early in wolrds we won’t see too much more of him on TV. Chuck, VDP and Klaasen in real bother too given their current form. Euro Tour back soon. I’ve been starting to get withdrawal symptoms. Yes Barney in a world of hurt. I dont see him having a deep run in any major, its strange how if you had to pick 5 guys to take on MVG in a stage semi final, Barney would probably be in there... if you had to pick 20 people to beat Dave Pallet in round 1 of the UK Open, I dont think Barney would make the list. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 22, 2018, 05:36:58 PM Barneys PL spot in real jeopardy too... BH showed last year that reps dont hold you up on your own when Jackpot got iced... Semi final in the worlds 2 years ago and since then never past the 1/4 final stage of any ranking event, not even a PPC event. Two world cup wins and final of the masters are pretty much the only thing on Barney's resume over the past 24 months. In fact, you have to go make to late 2015 for his last win (Shaghai Masters) and his last PDC ranking win was in 2013.
Not really premier league calibre that if we're honest, but Barney is Barney, and Sky Sports wildcard has been locked for years....I wonder if the Dance is Danced by now? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on August 22, 2018, 06:19:29 PM Barneys PL spot in real jeopardy too... BH showed last year that reps dont hold you up on your own when Jackpot got iced... Semi final in the worlds 2 years ago and since then never past the 1/4 final stage of any ranking event, not even a PPC event. Two world cup wins and final of the masters are pretty much the only thing on Barney's resume over the past 24 months. In fact, you have to go make to late 2015 for his last win (Shaghai Masters) and his last PDC ranking win was in 2013. Not really premier league calibre that if we're honest, but Barney is Barney, and Sky Sports wildcard has been locked for years....I wonder if the Dance is Danced by now? No chance Barney has way more credit than Jackpot when it comes to PL especially after last year's Dutch crowd reaction. I personally think barney will be a lock wild card until the day he retires from the game. Unique global fan fav. Never been a player like barney in the history of darts fan wise. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on August 22, 2018, 08:02:40 PM https://www.live-darts.com/category/bdo-darts-news/bdo-lift-sanctions-on-pdc-players-20180822/
Thoughts on this? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on August 23, 2018, 12:04:09 PM Finally BDO, after a decade of just spitefully treating the PDC as the evil stepbrother, new guy has come along and seen that the PDC is an exciting, innovating money machine and the BDO can't compete on a single point!
If you asked someone would they rather be PDC #32 or BDO #1 then its not even a decision... something gotta change Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on August 23, 2018, 06:59:39 PM It’s a good move for the players. Not sure there’s much in it for the BDO. They have effectively given their players a free shot at Q School in the knowledge that ifthey fail they can go back to the BDO Tour. Overall I’m not sure it will really have much of an impact.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 21, 2018, 06:12:36 PM Champions League Of Darts this weekend!
Really a big fan of this tournament, top 8 fighting it out and I really like the format for a closed event. £100k for the win too, so punchy event! The format is 2x groups of 4, everyone plays everyone 1 time, winner of group A plays second in group B and vica versa in the other semi, BO19/21 matches too which is great. Every player is going through something different at the moment in the top 8 which makes this tournament really interesting, lets have a look at the outrights 1. MVG - 5/6 "bad patch" recently for MVG, of course when I say bad patch I mean he's still won a world series and a euro tour during the last two months, and overall this year he has 20 titles and over £500,000 in prize money, but nonetheless, he's looked beatable, he was iffy in the world series events, he was majestic in the first Euro Tour back, he was ill in the Dutch Masters and got turned over by Steve Lennon i the first game - he took last weekend off, and you know he REALLY wants to win this tournament as it remains the only PDC title he's never won. Tough to ever write him off, his mentality for winning and pure talent means he always comes back around, but tough to really consider him at odds given given his form. His group has Gary, Chizzy and Gurney in it so you'd expect him and gary to be showing down for the group. 2. Gary Anderson - 4/1 Gary is having a great year, looks in great form all year, loves big stages, loves playing the big players, handles multiple games in a day as well as any of the other top players (bar MVG) and he's got so much confidence he will bounce back from an iffy performance pretty quick. He will actually like the fact he's in MVG group too, as it means he wont play him in the semi and Gary knows he's the one guy who can actually live with MVG on top form. 4/1 Gary would tempt me over 5/6 MVG, I think the draw will suit him and he's used to winning right now. 3. Rob Cross - 6/1 A very tough 2018 for voltage so far, was always going to be hard to live up to 2017, I think he's learning a few lessons this year his own brilliance skipped him from learning last year, he's just too inconsistent to really fancy him for a weekend of BO19/BO21 games vs the best in the world. The draw ain't really good for him either as irrespective of if he wins his group or not, he'll probably be playing Gary or MVG in the Semi. Needs to find some form as the business end of the year approaches. Of course, he can win anything, but the draw is tough and the form isn't really there, 6/1 a no from me. 4. Peter Wright - 8/1 Another one who cant string any form together this year, his relentless messing around with the darts is just nonsensical and i believe shows a real mental frailty, his redeeming quality is he can always pull it out on the big stages and has become a master of sweeping up opportunities when they fall at his feet. However he isn't getting any freebies here, and he is basically the same boat at Voltage, more than capable, bad draw, no form... 8/1 not for me. 5. Mensur Suljovic - 12/1 Mensur, defending this title, enjoying a dreamy year, in great form looks to be a great shout for this tournament. It's quite unfathomable to me that he would be a fair bit longer priced for this than Cross or Wright with the same draw, he's got absolutely everything needed to win, the draw is tough but I like a bit of Mensur at 12s. Also 3/1 to win his group looks good to me too :) 6. Daryl Gurney - 40/1 (bet365) 33/1 everywhere else Seems insane world number 5 is 40/1 in an 8 man field, there is some login though, he's having a terrible year and has looked totally unenthusiastic and uninspired, hes struggled against players he should beat and now he's in a tournament with guys he probably shouldn't, with a bad draw. The interesting thing about Gurney is the EW, if he can sneak out of the group he'll have the easier semi (easier, not easy) so 13/1 to make the final isn't out of this world when he's got the game to beat anyone i the top 16 in a BO19 game. 7. Dave Chisnall - 33/1 Chizzy, after a totally torrid year, is running back into a bit of form, was all sorts of questions over his fitness but without the premier league to distract him he's started to show a bit of form since the matchplay. However despite this, he hasn't threatened any titles and couldn't follow his record breaking 118 average in the ET up with much. Same boat as Gurney, game to beat anyone on his A game which makes the EW look attractive with the draw, he's certainly shown a great deal more indication that he'd bring his A game out for a few games than Gurney of late. 8. Simon Whitlock - 66/1 Whitlock is hugely unfancied for this tournament for the simple reason that he is typically not one to bring the guns out vs big players, but deserves some credit for some very good performances in the premier league, and even though he's not won anything this yr, and the final of a super soft Euro Tour this weekend aside, hasn't really threatened. In a group where he will feel like he could beat any of the other three he might not be the worst EW bet you've ever made. He doesn't have the turbo A game that everyone else in the tournament does though, so if he gets put to the sword, I don't think he's going to be up to it. I'd recommend; Small Mensur 12/1, wouldn't bother EW Small Chizzy 33/1 EW Medium Mensur Win his group 3/1 Should be great fun! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: dino1980 on September 21, 2018, 10:02:12 PM Thanks for the write-up Dave. Was already on Mensur but have added the other bets to the portfolio. I’m going to tomorrow’s evening session so gonna have to punt on that too.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on September 21, 2018, 11:07:34 PM Nice!
Dino you been to this event before? Whats the atmosphere like compared to the worlds? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: dino1980 on September 22, 2018, 05:43:20 PM Not been before, only been to the World’s at Ally Pally about 10 years ago. Will report back.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 23, 2018, 10:00:25 PM Loved it, great tournament.
Gary - one hell of a year, won all three big TV events far, as well as 4 floor titles and a world series. Not tooooo shabbbby, he's basically clearing up all the stuff he's never won before, only major events missing from the collection are; Grand Prix Grand Slam European Champs (he's not in) If you want a laugh, take a look at these, lists of all Darts disciplinary cases over past 4 years :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on September 24, 2018, 03:47:23 PM What a brilliant idea that 9-darter bonus was, where the prize goes to the fans, not the players. Must add a whole new dynamic to the game. I'd rather stick needles in my eye than attend a Darts Tourney, but even so this has to be a bit of really bright thinking. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on September 24, 2018, 03:48:06 PM Loved it, great tournament. Gary - one hell of a year, won all three big TV events far, as well as 4 floor titles and a world series. Not tooooo shabbbby, he's basically clearing up all the stuff he's never won before, only major events missing from the collection are; Grand Prix Grand Slam European Champs (he's not in) If you want a laugh, take a look at these, lists of all Darts disciplinary cases over past 4 years :D I could use a laugh, Dave, but I need the link, please. ;) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 25, 2018, 09:38:36 AM shit sorry!!
http://www.thedra.co.uk/cases/ Some really funny ones :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on September 25, 2018, 09:48:56 AM shit sorry!! http://www.thedra.co.uk/cases/ Some really funny ones :D "Recklessly throwing darts" could be applied to a lot of players...... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on September 25, 2018, 11:09:10 AM shit sorry!! http://www.thedra.co.uk/cases/ Some really funny ones :D 2015/16 seemed like the end of the party years, lol. 4/5 players trying to bring drink into the venue. 2018 seems pretty quiet compared. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on September 25, 2018, 08:45:02 PM Grand Prix darts
Ignoring the top half of the draw which has mvg and Anderson in Peter wright 8/1 has looked very good but the same old issue of changing darts, also has to play smith or Lewis Suljovic 22/1, so consistent these days has a route of wade, white then cross, and right now I’d have him as a favourite for all 3 of those games before meeting wright, smith or Lewis Betting Suljovic 22/1 and Smith 40/1 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on September 26, 2018, 09:24:48 AM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Grand_Prix_(darts)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 26, 2018, 06:34:33 PM Grand Prix Darts
Great tournament this, I really like the format, shorter format at the start combined with the double-in start adds a random factor which is thoroughly entertaining, no-one is safe from a headloss in this event! The first an most disappointing thing to say about the outrights is the 12 1/3 and no 12 1/2 knocking about, that' going to kill a lot of potentiall great EW bets :( As stated the top half is pretty tough with MVG and Gary on course to meet in the semi. MVG is actually (for once) kind of discussion worthy for the betting - he's as long as 6/5 in some places and that's as long as I ever remember him setting off for a major tournament in recent times. There is a few reasons why he should be a bit longer this time round, the first reason why he's setting off longer this weekend is because he is in what would be considered a "rough patch" of form at the moment. Now it's important to keep this in context, his 10 week off patch he's won 19/27 games, 2/9 tournaments, won over £100k in prize money and averaged 101.5 (higher than anyone else) so he's far from throwing spanners, what we have seen from him though is he's been getting beat in spots you wouldn't expect him to get in beat in a lot more often than usual, I think there's a couple of contributary factors, 1) perhaps first yr with a young family his practice routine and focus levels are a little below what they were in 2016 when he swept the board for TV titles pretty much. 2) despite his total dominance of the rankings his recent form on TV tournaments has not been anywhere near what it has been over the past 5 years, only winning 3/11 (excl world cup) TV tournaments this yr and going out 1st round in both open majors, only winning 1 WSOD event, failing again at the CL, I think he is really putting the pressure on himself and I think it is getting to him a little more than you'd have thought it would. 3) Just a natural dip in form, he's clearly the best player in the world but everyone has a little off patch form time to time, as we said he's not throwing trash he's just been giving peopel 3 chances a game where before you were lucky to get 1, and 4) he's run into some very good performances. Personally I don't follow the logic that the current off-patch affects his chances of winning this tournament - he's the best, a big purple patch is never far round the corner and it's this part of the year he typically puts the jets on. The main reason he is longer here is because this is the one tournament he should be a little longer for, the spots he is truly streets ahead of anyone else in the world in are long format, matchplay games with multiple games in a day, no one else has the turbo stamina and can dominate like that, not even Gary (who hasn't struggled this year but doesn't handle multiple game days anywhere near as well as MVG) this format, shorter format (especially in the opening rounds) and set play with the double in random factor should theoretically be the tournament he'd be most venerable in. Having said that, he has won this tournament 3 form the last 6, and this was his first major 6 years ad 28 major titles later! The other reason why you'd think he would naturally drift for this event is the form of Gary Anderson... Quick word on Gary's chances for this event, how could you not fancy him? He's in great form, he's won 3 major titles already, he's been on a run of sweeping up titles he's never won before this year with 3 new additions to his impressive trophy cabinet, this and the grand slam are the two glaring omissions from a glistening career. He has a pretty interesting draw full of people with points to prove, Johny Clayton in round 1 is a very dangerous spot for Gary, in this format if you start fucking about missing coming in on a leg or switch off at the wrong times you're toast, Gary doesn't always start as well as he'd hope and you got guys like Clayton who have 4-6 legs of 104 average in the locker you could very easily find yourself in big trouble. Most likely de Zwaan in the second round who has performed amazingly well on stage this year and gave Gary a decent game at the matchplay, had he not run into A+ Gary performance he might have made a proper game of that, he'll be hungry to build on his matchplay success and having already competed against Gary on the big stage I would expect him to be licking his chops to have another go at him in a format which should give him a much better chance. His quarter final will be between Hendo/Gurney/Cullen/Meulenkamp, no-one will have a bigger point to prove this week than gurney, who's really delivered very little since his breakthrough win here last yr, Hendo is a classic example of someone who the format will suit perfectly and Cullen and Ron have played consistently great on stage this year and both will be desperate to show something of that on TV. All this capped of by MVG, that's a really tough draw for Gary. For these reasons, neither Gary at 7/1 or MVG at 6/5 looks remotely appealing, but nonetheless the top half is incredibly interesting and lots going on - Cullen vs Meulkamp could be one of the games of the opening round! No one else (bar one surprise pick, later!) even comes close to a bet in the top half for me, I'll be keen to see how Steve Lennon handles the home crowds, he's a vastly improved player over the last 12 months and from looking like a scared kitten on stage he seems to have built up some real confidence, the weight of expectation and the lack of form makes Gurney completely unbackable at 33/1 for me, and final route likely to include MVG and Gary rules out any each way thoughts. One game I'll be watching with great interest is Ricky Evans vs Barney, two guys in total opposite spots, Ricky finally having a year where he's putting some consistent form together and a recent Euro Tour final has got him into this event, Barney is really not showing anything right now, his rankings position is under real threat and he has only 3 tournaments to make up a lot of prize money. Ricky Evans will fancy this, and he'll really fancy Chizzy/Hopp next, which gives him a 1/4 final spin in a sky major vs MVG, could well be the surprise package of the tournament - all about rhythm for him, this rapid players are amazing on song but it can fall totally to pieces when the wheels come off. So onto the bottom half - as suggested above the stand out player in this half for me, of this season really, is Mensur. I remember him being the most tilting guy to watch play darts, but since he become a champion he's fast become one of the most entertaining players to watch. Over a longer format he has just become a total animal and reasonably speaking I don't think anyone is a favourite over him bar MVG and Gary in a BO19+ matchplay game right now on current form(the 6/4 and 11/8 available over the weekend on him vs Wright and Cross was lovely!) The other big selling point for Mensur is his double 14 success rate is so high, and obviously that's his chosen starting double, he's hitting it on average 2/3 times and thats a phenomenal advantage in this format. If we're looking at negatives for Mensur in this tournament I think the stand out worry is the draw and the short format opening games, as much of a beast as he is in the long formats I think he's a bit venerable in the short formats and this is why he doesn't win anywhere near the tournaments he should, added to this his opening 3 matches are probably going to be Wade/White/Cross and that would worry me greatly. 22/1, hmmmm im really on the fence - I know I'd be leaving it for sure at 18s and firing in there at 25s. Mensur's 1/4 is the toughest 1/4 there for sure, and has a really interesting opening game between White and Payne. Josh Payne is an interesting one, he's beaten all the big boys and even won 2 floor titles, seems to have the stones for stage darts and tons of talent, biggest issue is consistency and he's up against the flagship of consistency in Ian White. His recent euro tour win saw him play extremely well and finally winning stage competition will have lifted a big weight of his shoulder, as someone who does well in the shorter formats and is so reliable on the doubles you'd have to think this would be his best major shot. His draw however is really quite nasty, a route to victory that could look like payne/mensur/cross/wright/mvg who knows, 45/1 a working mans price for a man in rich form but I think it's a leave again. As far as Cross goes, his year has been a mix of utter brilliance mixed with utter mediocre, he's very beatable atm and everyone knows it, Beaton, Price, Mensur, White, Wade all potentially in his way, he's way way too short for this. We also can't ignore James Wade in this section, having a relatively solid year but failed to really make any impact to the extent that he needed too, whats really impressed me about Wade this year has been the attitude, he's really gotten stuck into defending his top 16 place and he's a different player to last year, if I cant get snap on board with mensur at 22s really there's no reason to look at Wadey at 50s im afraid :(. I guess we should aso give Gerwyn Price a mention, recently won his first euro tour even though it was one of the poorest euro tours in memory, tough to completely write off a man who won his last stage tournament at 75/1 but worries over fitness, worries over mental state, not the worst bet you'll see but I think we can find better. Now the most interesting guy to talk about as far as betting goes, Peter Wright. He cretes a bit of a minefield does old snakebite, the pundits praise his mental strength but I personally have big doubts of his state of mind, the uncertainty over his darts is also a tough one to call, in the champions league he played with (yet another) new set, up until the MVG game my thoughts were that he was shooting the lights out on the scoring with these but looked ropey on the doubles, then he put on a clinic of finishing vs MVG that was sublime (no other words) and then sort of petered out in the final against Gary. He also has a very, very tricky opener against Steve West who is in very good form himself of late, Steve West is a player with easy top 16 pedigree, but his doubling and bottle come into serious question, however in this format with the worries over PW doubling this is a serious banana skin potential for him. The next round vs Wattimena or King two guys really struggling a bit at the moment, but his quarter will be Lewis, Smith, Whitlock or Wilson, then Mensur, Cross, Wade etc in the semi before a Gary/MVG final. 8/1 not for me here, and i will almost certainly be betting west in that opener. So Having ruled out pretty much everyone, we only have a few people left to consider, and given we've put crosses through most of the top 16 there's only a few guys left to talk about, most interesting first round fixture is probably Smith vs Lewis, Smith will be pretty annoyed he lost to Chizzy in the matchplay as it cost him his CL place AND cut him off being a seeded spot in this. What's really interesting is that Smith is predominantly 25/1 - 28/1 (a bit of 40/1 but I'll ignore it for now as Unitbet and 88 only) and Lewis is mostly 40/1 yet they are priced up for their match very closely. Lewis loves the stage and his form since getting back fit this year has largely been very promising, his performances on the floor have been consistently good and despite not playing all that great in euro tours has pulled off quite a few wins in tight games, Them both at 40/1 you take Smith of course, 28/1 Smith and 40/1 Lewis I think Lewis probably pips it, the final route isn't great but you could see him doing it, the shorter formats will suit him more than in the past as won't affect hit fitness, since having back surgery and changing his throw a little there is still some big worries over his doubling and he has had some famous blow-ups in this in the past. Really don't know what we're going to see from Micheal Smith, it's been a great year for him but he hasn't QUITE followed it in with anything huge, he's s strong on tops and tens as well as power scoring to match anyone, we didn't see the may-august we thought we would after his January-April, and not played since returning from Australia, big 6 months coming up for both of them. Whitlock made the final last year and this format DEFO suits him, he's one guy who's game fits nicely with set-play, he just doesn't seem able to consistently compete with the big names and that makes it unappealing, I think Wilson/Smith or Lewis/Wright/Cross or Mensur/Gary or MVG is potentially one of the toughest paths to the trophy there is, there's a lot of reasons to fancy Whitlock in this comp but 66/1 too short given the draw, spreadex are ambitiously going 150/1 which if you could actually bet it would be lovely :) So after pages of pure waffle, I've got two bets I defo like and one of them controversially comes from the top half, Ron Meulemkamp @ 250/1 - I know his path includes Gary and MVG but he's been playing so well and his scoring has been so powerful, he comes across as a guy who really enjoys stage darts and I think the crowd will really get behind him against both Gary and MVG, he's very reliable on his doubles too combined with some power scoring that can compete with almost anyone, he's a player who really rides on momentum so if he starts well against Joe Cullen who, despite playing really all year still has huge doubts over his ability to take it to the TV stage could cause some real problems. The second person I'm looking at is Steve West, another controversial pick because the questions over his bottle are real, but I really believe a big run in a major is coming and his form of late is good, he'll look at his run to the final and really, really fancy it, 150/1 to me EW looks decent. That just leaves the question of Mensur @ 22/1 Smith 28/1 and Lewis 40/1 and I genuinely can't decide, I think none of them look like good each way shouts at 12 1/3 and taking into account Lewis' inconsistency and prone to headloss, smith's time off and Mensur's reliability on the double 14, I'm really close to backing Mensur but I think all three are a leave for me. So to summarise, after blocks and blocks of text two hugely punty long shots is all we've settled on :) West 150/1 EW Meulenkamp 250/1 I think you could do a lot worse things with your money than give Mensur (or smith) a spin but I dont think the money is quite there for them, if you're looking for an outright punt from the big names it's Mensur for me. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on September 26, 2018, 06:39:38 PM All aboard the Lil' Dave express <3
10bet are 1/2 1-2 for bowl punters :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on September 26, 2018, 07:11:13 PM POTY
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on September 26, 2018, 07:58:54 PM Another sick write up Dave tyvm!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on September 26, 2018, 08:16:22 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on September 26, 2018, 09:07:47 PM Mensur one of oddscheckers ‘most popular bets’
Doomed already Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on September 27, 2018, 07:10:21 AM Amazing write up Dave, just the job this morning with my coffee, off to find some accounts I can use.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 27, 2018, 09:32:45 AM MVG, Gary, Cross, Gurney, Suljovic, Barney, Lewis, Smith, Whitlock and White
Wayne Mardle was asked for his 10 for the Premier League (as of now)! I assume he just forgot about Peter Wright as opposed to totally mugging him off, he's a lock to be in as world top 4 anyway! I think there is PL spots a plenty up for grabs this year for anyone playing well this next 5 months! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on September 27, 2018, 11:35:47 AM MVG, Gary, Cross, Gurney, Suljovic, Barney, Lewis, Smith, Whitlock and White Wayne Mardle was asked for his 10 for the Premier League (as of now)! I assume he just forgot about Peter Wright as opposed to totally mugging him off, he's a lock to be in as world top 4 anyway! I think there is PL spots a plenty up for grabs this year for anyone playing well this next 5 months! If naming it now then Wright for Whitlock would probably be my 10. There’s at least 2 spots still up for grabs though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on September 27, 2018, 12:35:40 PM Amazing write up
I'm glad you mentioned the e/w place terms, I noticed that and it is very disappointing. Love the Meulenkamp shout, he is overpriced to win his opening match against Cullen @ 7/4 for sure, there is very little between their stage performances this year. West wouldn't necessarily be for me as he always appears horrific and guessy at doubles on tv but he does score well and its not like hes a 33/1 shot. A price I really like is Ian White @ 66/1 in the w/o MVG market with paddys & betfair sbook. He has the 4th highest average on tour this year. it is true what you say about his draw, Mensur in the 2nd round will be a tough hurdle, especially when he is likely to get off on double 14 about 100% of the time. But if he can get through that as a slight outsider, I'd fancy his chances of making the semis, Cross looked in dire form at the weekend and the other 3 don't look too threatening. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 28, 2018, 09:30:54 AM wow, 66/1 w/o MVG, its enourmous, they have him 50/1 outright and 16/1 to reach the final! Must be a mistake from them you think?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on September 28, 2018, 09:38:09 AM wow, 66/1 w/o MVG, its enourmous, they have him 50/1 outright and 16/1 to reach the final! Must be a mistake from them you think? Think I'd be very wary of that, proper account killer. Can't be right, can it? Great spot though. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on September 28, 2018, 10:12:59 AM Probably a mistake tbf yeah but 66s when should be 28s isn't too tragic.
What do we think about James Wilson to beat Simon Whitlock @ 13/8? I really don't think there is too much between them. Wilson has slightly the better 3 dart average in 2018 although Whitlock has played a higher calibre of opponent which may have affected him negatively. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on September 28, 2018, 01:11:29 PM Huybrechts 13/10
Darren Webster 4/5 Ricky Evans 2-0 13/2 John Henderson 21/10 Wattimena 11/10 Wilson 31/20 Smith 10/11 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 28, 2018, 09:19:11 PM yeh, Wilson a decent shout, he's in pretty good form played a euro tour final against MVG and gave him a game start of the month, he's a little like Steve West in that he's got scoring power on form to compete with anyone but doubles are the weakness, he can go missing for a few legs on the scoring and he's a real momentum player. Whitlock tends to be fairly reliable when it comes to beating who he should beat and losing to who he should lose to, but at 6/4 + you gotta love tking him on with a guy who can turn the jets on and average 100+ effortlessly. Format suits Whitlock though, he's hot and cold, neither have a really reliable double, Whitlock will start on D16 and Wilson D20 I imagine, I'd be happy at 6/4 wouldn't be wanting to go much lower.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 29, 2018, 10:00:23 AM Huybrechts 13/10 Darren Webster 4/5 Ricky Evans 2-0 13/2 John Henderson 21/10 Wattimena 11/10 Wilson 31/20 Smith 10/11 Solid list, the Webster/Smith prices are real standout if you're actually able to bet that those are great bets! Big Hendo mostly 2-1 but i'd be loving taking gurney on right now and big john perfect guy. Only one i couldn't back in there is Kim, the 13/10 only available at Boyles and Spreadex which is pretty much the same as not being available, even at 13/10 though he's just playing so horrible right now and there's nothing I've seen from de Zwaan this year to say he shouldn't be a solid fave there, the only weakness I've ever really seen from JDZ was in last yrs grand slam where he crushed the group play but somehow let Scotty Dog Mitchell rattle him up and he blew it on the doubles despite blasting him out of the water. Been umming and arring for a while now about the Wattimena King match, this year has seen Merv lose games he never usually loses, worries over his back, bit of chopping and changing his darts going on (UK open he used his new set and changed back mid match bizarrely) and not in great form, the format suits him because he's so consistent on the doubles and very reliable on D16. Wattimena having a great start to year and much improved, little dip in form of late though and he's quite a streaky guy....think I would fancy the 11/10 and probably swerve the 1/1. Crafty 2-0 Evans bet, affecting betting against Barney over betting on Ricky, like the logic, price has gone so you must have been onto something! Sink or swim times for barney, if he doesn't have a run in the worlds, slam or grand prix then I just don't see how his PL place could possibly be justified. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on September 29, 2018, 11:02:32 AM Should be able to get Smith Webster prices on the exchange.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on September 30, 2018, 03:05:45 PM The day has arrived!
I’ve had to do huybrechts at 300/1 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on September 30, 2018, 07:30:25 PM Good sweat
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on September 30, 2018, 08:15:50 PM I'm off to a flier.
Love the darts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on September 30, 2018, 08:32:20 PM Demolition job
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 30, 2018, 10:50:07 PM big drift on webster just before the off, somewhat inexplicable really.
de Zwaan was so impressive, 99.7 average with the double in format is like 108~ in normal format, interesting to see how this "back problem" is gonna affect garry, he's drifted to 1.33 which I would make a bet not sure how much a short game like this will for the back but I remember him falling to pieces in the PL vs Smith when it hit him, also I think he struggled on T20 with his back like this which is a huge part of his game. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on September 30, 2018, 11:27:31 PM looks fine!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 01, 2018, 10:09:28 AM something i knew, but didn't realise i knew, the last TV titles before the worlds are; The World Series finals, The Euro Finals, The Grand Slam and the Players... MVG has won all 4 3 years running!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Horneris on October 02, 2018, 09:50:14 AM What do we think about James Wilson to beat Simon Whitlock @ 13/8? I really don't think there is too much between them. Wilson has slightly the better 3 dart average in 2018 although Whitlock has played a higher calibre of opponent which may have affected him negatively. Go on the Jammy Dodger! Good first round for the underdogs who shouldn't have been as big an underdog with this winning, Meulenkamp and Beaton. Shame about Ricky Evans @ 23/10 who looked in control before Barney's 164. And the less said about John Henderson the better. Difficult to be convinced by RVB, I think lildave has alluded to that itt, Chizzy @ 5/4+ looks a fair wager this eve imo. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 02, 2018, 10:09:43 AM Nice to have jackpot back Smith felt the pressure more than jackpot.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 02, 2018, 02:42:45 PM Difficult to be convinced by RVB, I think lildave has alluded to that itt, Chizzy @ 5/4+ looks a fair wager this eve imo. very nice Dr. Brent! Yep, Chizzy has glimpses of his former self shining through ever more frequently of late, Barney is capable of switching the genius on at any moment with 0 notice, just as he is likely to shake his head and start throwing spanners from nowhere, the 164 was just pure class. This could be a great game 00 vs 100 average, it could be the worst game of the tournament, or one of them could just run it off 3-0. With that in mind I would sway naturally to the man who's the biggest price! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 02, 2018, 02:45:37 PM Nice to have jackpot back Smith felt the pressure more than jackpot. terrible last leg, aside from that a cracking game, Lewis on form is a joy to watch, if he can get back to his best then he's a live runner for any tournament and will be back in the top 10 in no time, and be amazing for darts, having MVG, Gary, Wright, Mensur, Cross and Lewis on top form would be great! Luckily for him he's got a 15 months of v little prize money to defend so he's got half a chance of something but NEEDS a run in a major if he's gonna have a sniff at a PL return, he's hugely entertaining so sky/pdc wont need much excuse to give him a wildcard. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on October 02, 2018, 10:22:21 PM Do we have a view on Lewis at 20/1 1/3 1,2.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 02, 2018, 10:37:37 PM spreadex are 25/1 and given MVG and Ando cruised through tonight its heavy odds on jackpot will be a big dog in the final. Wouldn't be a play for me. He is 8/1 to place and 1/2 tomorrow so a 5/1 poke after winning tomorrow. Will be a dog against Wright/Mens in the quarters and semis. Be interesting to see what price he would be in the final against ando/mvg currently.
Def not a bet for me at 20/1 at those terms. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on October 03, 2018, 07:45:20 PM How good did Suljovic look
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on October 05, 2018, 08:33:53 PM Suljovic blew up
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 26, 2018, 11:16:44 PM Wow Euro Darts - Shit just got reeeaaaaaaaaaaaal.
The bottom half of the draw was always looking like one that might throw a bone to someone who's never made a major final before, Mensur was the standout guy at the top of that half with a dreamy, dreamy run to the final in today's day and age, he got turned over in a limp dicked showing by Cristo Reyes. Gurney has shown a bit of a return to form and should have picked some confidence up following a Semi @ the GP and he'd have fancied it but got beat by an impressive Ricky Evans. The top half, which has seen MVG, Wright, White, Smith exit has left 4 players in the top half, all of whom have a real point to prove and a great chance to prove it; Steve West - he's got the MVG hangover problem to worry about, very rarely do people follow MVG-toppling performances with anything substantial, Steve is a player who has shown more and more he's capable of top-10 standard darts, but his doubling frailties and lack of conviction in the big moments has meant he's never really delivered it on the big stage where it matters, a final here could really push him on - he's good enough, and this is a great chance. Simon Whitlock - Hasn't had a terrible year, held onto his world top10 spot comfortably and put in a decent premier league campaign, but i realty has he done enough to get back in? He finalled one of the weakest euro tours ever and lost to Gerwyn price in a terrible game. He's been nowhere near the majors, wasnt that impressive in the world series and hasn't really had much to sing about on the floor. If he wants his PL spot, I think he needs to put a big major run in. Joe Cullen - He's good enough for a top 10 spot, and has the game/character for the PL, problem is most casual darts fans wont even really know who he is, he has consistently lost games he needs to win at every point, he's had a few euro tours open up for him and got turned over by guys he should beat, as a result he's never really put in a good showing in a major, until the matchplay where he played a blinder vs Gary but ran into a man destined to win that tournament, he said in his interview that Barry Hearn told him "make a major final and you're in the PL" can he hack the pressure? Jury is out, he needs to prove to himself I think. Rob Cross - Probably more to prove than anyone else, had a really tough year as world champ, been beaton by everyone this year, sometimes 105 average sometimes 91 average, the killer instinct he had last year hasn't been there, people saying things like "is he realy as good as he looked last year?" a Major win in his second year on tour from no form and little confidence could be a great shout to right those comments! Bottom half is going to be fascinating to watch too, Darren Webster (who i'm a big fan off) has got himself into the top 16 and a deep run here with little prize money to defend could fire him up towards the top10, he's never really brought it to the latter stages of a major either so he's got a point to prove, Max Hopp fell out of form somewhat since his euro tour win, my god if he won a major...in Germany, the roof might fly off, he'll be as aware as anyone the significance of him winning this major tournament - I'd love to see how he'd handle that pressure. James Wilson been playing really well lately, making a ET final when MVG had lost only 2-3 legs all weekend and actually gave him a game, he's another one who's ranking could be boosted hugely by a deep major run, he's going to have a very frosty game vs Hopp tomorrow, unchartered territory for him. Wade and Chizzy both dropped from the PL this yr and both have heir rankings position under severe threat, they'll be looking t their draw and thinking, I HAVE TO MAKE THE FINAL HERE, as neither of them (despite some strong performances) have really done anything this year to justify their places back in the PL. Great oppurtunity for Ricky Evans, having found some slick form last couple of months, this could help him in so many ways, confidence and ranking points going into the worlds could see a big wegde of money going into his rankings, he's playing very well and getting used to winning games lately, he'll look at that draw and think, yeh you know what...I can final this. Gerwyn Price had a horrible start to the year and totally lost his head in the premier league, then got himself injured. Last half of the year been good, winning himself a euro tour, he hasn't really been playing all that great, would be a great move towards securing himself another go at the PL finalling here. Come on the darts! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on October 27, 2018, 11:09:29 PM Great night tonight, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Wade moving through quietly, Price looked impressive and got my wheelbarrow out of retirement for Hopp. Who wins from here? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 28, 2018, 07:12:11 PM Sick evening ahead, it's kind of a shoot-out for a PREM LEAGUE place, I think everyone of these was a different level of underdog for the PREM but all with a case of sorts for them. Win and they're in whoever wins it, final might be good enough for some, and if it isn't it'll get them well on the way.
Cullen, is getting more and more opportunities, he's periodically under-delivered every single time (you could argue he was unlucky vs Gary at the matchplay) if he wants to go where he wants to go in darts he better start taking them, and soon! He's a tricky guy in whitlock though, he won here before, he's won plenty, he can do it for sure. Would love to see James Wade back, looked totally gone at the game last year this would be a remarkable return to form, and my god is Max Hopp wins the roof is coming off Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 28, 2018, 08:15:28 PM oh Joe.... Joe, Joe, Joe.
Must stop doing this. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on October 31, 2018, 08:03:40 PM Rankings Time!
This is the time of the year when rankings money starts to really really matter, this last weekends tournament was really quite incredible, in a way the tournament was a little disappointing that the final session was one of the lowest standard we've seen, only 1 person past the quarters managed to average over 95, but both semis went to match darts for both and there was some super exciting games in there. I really am pretty chuffed for Wadey, 2016 was a bit poor and 2017 was down right terrible he looked really gone and his top 16 spot was under severe threat. He's defending runner-up money at the grand slam so this £100k onto his ranking is desperately needed. He's for sure back in the PL with this win, and thanks to horror show in 2017 he doesnt have a lot to defend in the next 12 months bar £38k from the worlds, from the periphery of professional collapse he's now looking like a solid, solid fixture in the top 10. Lets just have a word for Joe Cullen, on the bright side he's now into the world top 16, he's genuinely playing like one of the ten best players in the world this year and I would expect him to hold his spot in the top 16, irrespective of what might have been, its still a great step for him. Having said this he blew a serious chance at a major, on form he was the best player in the last 4 and I would have made him a favrouite vs Wade or Hopp in the final, a win there would have put him world number 7 and pretty much gtd him a place in the premier league, not to mention just making the final would have gotten him in the grand slam and a shot at that £110k top prize. There has been a few euro tour events where he's found himself with a relatively soft roll to the final and lost to someone he should have beat - it's becoming a worry for him now, if you cant hold your nerves at the majors then you're never gonna make it to the top 10 and the premier league. Max Hopp will be also quite annoyed, a final would have got him into the top 32 and grand slam, and a win would have gotten him into the top 20, lets be honest it was a soft final four and a good few years might roll by before any of the 4 of them get a better shot at a major title. The top of the rankings is, as we expected, as you were, the biggest missed oppurtunity at this stage will be Rob Cross, having still not managed to overtake Peter Wright despite having a massive headstart is a real mis-step, Cross needs to sort himself out, he's world #3 and his year has a PC win, a world series win and basically nothing else, next year he has about £600,000 to defend and if he doesn't start building up a buffer he's going to find himself needing a massive winter 2019 just to stay in the world top 20, he'll almost certainly over-take Peter Wright as world #2 over the next few tournaments but he looks so beatable right now. Gary had a little work to do this year to keep his #4 place in tact and he's more than done that, £175k to catch Peter Wright up is obviously going to be a huge ask, impossible without winning the worlds and maybe not even then. Gary will be happy with his year he's defending £25k at the grand slam and £6k at the players so he'll be looking to put some money on the board before he's defending £160k at Xmas. He still has over £200k buffer over 6th and £140k over Gurney in 5th, Gary is staying 4th im pretty sure. The rest of the top 10 has a lot of wars going on. Gurney is relatively safe in #5 with £40k to defend between now and the end of the year and a £90k buffer, Wade's tenure as world #6 is likely to end at the grand slam as he has £55k to defend and only £8k above mensur. Mensur will be livid he blew his semi final at the GP as that was some much needed prize money left on the table, he has £75k between him and Gerwyn Price in #11 but Mensur is IMO the third best player in the world right now, so he should be looking at Gary in world #4, not chizzy in world #10. Micheal Smith will be really annoyed at his year, absolutely nothing in any of the majors and he has guys behind him who are really hunting him down, Chizzy finding some form again, Price turning in some good performances and at an all time high #11, Ian White finally won a stage comp and surely is a matter of time before he has a run at a major and Darren Webster is knocking on the door too. With prize money at the worlds bigger than ever, a bad show at the ally pally and world #7 can turn to world #15 in the blink of an eye. Smith, White, Webster all defending modest prize money for the rest of the year, Webster has the biggest disadvantage as he's not yet at the grand slam and has £20k to defend at the players, Smith should be back in the PL regardless but a terrific chance for Ian White to put a run at something together and get in, time's running out though. 14th, 15th and 16th sits Adrian Lewis (£235k) Joe Cullen (£243k) Barney (£250k), Lewis in a stark contrast to last yr is defending very little over the rest of the year, under £30k, you'd expect between the players and the worlds he'd add to his ranking money from here, big issue for him not yet being at the grand slam, Clayton behind him is in there and thats going to be a worry for Lewis. Cullen we spoke already about he is defending nothing really and on his current form should be charging towards #10, another one who won't be at the grand slam unlikely to lose his top 16 spot absent in Wolverhampton, but giving the guys he's chasing ahead of him (White, Price, Barney, Smith) a headstart for the players/worlds that he doesn't need to give. Then there is Barney... with £105k to defend between now and the worlds, hes lucky his WC performance got him into the grand slam but he's really failed to perform at any point in the year. With no titles, no finals, no run at all in any major, no real form and outside the top 16, very hard to justify a spot for Barney in the PL. His worries aren't just about his top 16 spot, if you take £105k off his ranking money he'd be #30, with the guys around him in good form and defending a lot less I think Barney could find himself cashing for £100k between now and the end of the year and STILL droppig out of the top 16. Very bad times for Barney, and with his schedule once he drops out i doubt he'll come back. As always, the 16-32 always leaves lots of chances for a run, Max Hopp is in 33rd £100k of the top 16, he's in the grand slam and playing great, a couple of deep runs and/or a good showing at the worlds and a shot at the top 16 is not out of the question, and we know the PDC are desperate to get Max into the premier league. Steve West and James Wilson are hovering around the mid 20s but both playing very well right now, they'll need to cash for about £60k to have a realistic shot at the top 16 but with £50k up for grabs for a 1/4 final spot at the worlds its wide open. Kim Huybrechts (18th) Jelle Klaasen (22nd) Alan Norris (25th) Benito van de Pas (28th) and Robert Thornton (32nd) are all going the other way, Benito van de Pas should be the most concerned, he's in danger of dropping out of the word 32 and not getting a spot at the worlds, hes only won 18 games all year and added £15k onto his rankings, he's not at the players or grand slam and everyone around him is. Norris in a similar spot, luckily for him his spot at the worlds should be safe but everyone around him is making up money, Kim Huybrechts has been out of form all year and he's going to get himself embroiled in the mid 20s ranking battle if he's not careful. There's loads of guys on the edge who are in the players and worlds capable of making something happen, Dimitri van den Bergh who will just be so annoyed he's not managed to make anything happen this year, Chris Dobey who is just waiting for a major run, Jeffrey de Zwaan who really needs to start backing these stage performances up on the floor, Ron Meulenkamp, Steve Lennon, Martin Schindler and Ricky Evans. These guys have put in good performances on stage this year and I'd be expecting to see something for at least one of them. Interesting to see what will happen to Corey Cadby, much anticipated first year on tour started impressively with a PDC win and a final at the UK open, then he had visa trouble and went back to Aus, since then he's broken his arm in a car accident and subseuqently pulled out of the world series finals, i've no idea if he'll be at the Grand Slam the week after, and he's not going to be at the players. Seems unlikely he cant pay next week but can play the week after so I guess we'll see him at the worlds.... World Series Finals up next, no ranking money up for grabs but a great tournament, roll on the grand slam! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on October 31, 2018, 10:34:43 PM ;tightend;
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on October 31, 2018, 10:39:49 PM Awesome ty as usual Dave!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 05, 2018, 08:51:05 AM Looks like the Wadey of old!
Two tournaments he absolutely shouldn't of won and he's shipped em both, surrounded by guys who couldn't quite get it done an wadey emerges victorious, and to be fair to him he sustained a very high level of performance which you just haven't seen for a few years, he'll be high in confidence for the Grand Slam, and his draw at the players looks ok too.... GO on Wadey. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on November 05, 2018, 10:49:16 AM Another nice win for Wadey, but omg the interviews these dart players give straight after games is blurgh.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on November 17, 2018, 08:34:37 AM Gary Anderson & Wesley Harms deny farting accusations at Grand Slam of Darts https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/46245993 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on November 17, 2018, 08:51:35 AM Another nice win for Wadey, but omg the interviews these dart players give straight after games is blurgh. Was hoping for a Gerwyn Price post-match interview after his shennanigans last night. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 17, 2018, 12:29:58 PM Anyone with a victor account
5/2 £80 max Anderson and Mvg to hit first 180 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 18, 2018, 09:07:51 PM Price major win finally
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on November 19, 2018, 12:07:12 PM Bye bye Barny. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/46261332 (http://i.imgur.com/u2GjeSt.jpg) (https://imgur.com/u2GjeSt) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 19, 2018, 01:19:08 PM Really upsetting, hate Price, love Gary...
Gary really let himself down there, totally lost his mind and no idea why he let it happen, his last throw of the game sums it up, 221 he hit S20 S20 (181 left and for reasons only he can tell you, went for T11, Price's antics are annoying, granted, but Gary is a seasoned pro and SURELY knew roughly what to expect from the game, should have just let Gerwyn do his thing and ignored it, rising to it like that was pretty rookie from a man who should know better. Having said all that, fatigue an obvious factor, i'd say 70+% of Gary's T20 attempts went low, in a way they probably shouldn't have the 3rd biggest game of the year on a day where the players have to play back to back BO31 games. I think you gotta give Price some credit in the fact that he endured the day at an intense level of high performance better than any other player out of the 4 semi finalists and showed quite a lot of clutch in some big moments...still I think he's a massive bellend and was rooting HARD against him with 0 money on the line. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 19, 2018, 01:26:26 PM I thought from just watching Price this week that his heavy scoring seems a lot more consistent now but he was very lucky to get past Whitlock earlier in the week who effectively handed him the game. I didn't see last night's final so can't comment on what happened.
Glad Barney is going to do a 'global world tour' effectively next year prior to retiring. Surely it could easily be possible that he doesn't qualify for next year's worlds as his planned swansong? That would be a shame. Still my fav game of all time the 2007 world final. He has been as important as Taylor in building the game to what it is now for me. Rolls Royce of a player at his peak. Effortless scoring. Think its the right time for him to go though. Assume its 1.01 he gets a PL swansong next year as a wildcard? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 19, 2018, 06:52:00 PM Really upsetting, hate Price, love Gary... Gary really let himself down there, totally lost his mind and no idea why he let it happen, his last throw of the game sums it up, 221 he hit S20 S20 (181 left and for reasons only he can tell you, went for T11, Price's antics are annoying, granted, but Gary is a seasoned pro and SURELY knew roughly what to expect from the game, should have just let Gerwyn do his thing and ignored it, rising to it like that was pretty rookie from a man who should know better. Having said all that, fatigue an obvious factor, i'd say 70+% of Gary's T20 attempts went low, in a way they probably shouldn't have the 3rd biggest game of the year on a day where the players have to play back to back BO31 games. I think you gotta give Price some credit in the fact that he endured the day at an intense level of high performance better than any other player out of the 4 semi finalists and showed quite a lot of clutch in some big moments...still I think he's a massive bellend and was rooting HARD against him with 0 money on the line. They should look at the scheduling for this. Start on the Friday night meaning they can then have the semis and final on different days. Two BO31 matches on the same day is tough. There’s a definite advantage in being in the right half of the draw as it stands. Rest day Saturday and then first on in the semi in the afternoon. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 20, 2018, 05:25:03 PM agree bazza, 100%.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 20, 2018, 08:37:32 PM Just had a quick look and since they have had the current format of the 20 finalists only 6 have averaged higher in the final than in the semi. I then had a look at the Matchplay which is over a similar length but on separate days and in the same time frame 12 of the 20 finalists averaged higher. It definitely devalues a week long tournament to have semis and final on the same day.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 21, 2018, 01:01:44 PM There is no need for the 1/4 finals to be best of 31 imo. That is the problem. You could have all 4 quarters on the friday if they were best of 19 which is more than enough. The quarter finals should't be the same length as the semis and final imo.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 21, 2018, 08:06:55 PM Yeah that’s another solution. That was the format for the first two renewals then they changed to the current format.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 22, 2018, 01:13:52 PM https://www.pdc.tv/news/2018/11/22/betfred-seal-world-matchplay-deal
Bald tipping his toe into the darts sponsorship market. Matchplay winner should get £200k for me so the rankings can be more balanced and less top heavy than being controlled by the worlds. Biggest pay jump from 1/4's to semis than from semis to runner up which is very weird. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 22, 2018, 01:24:39 PM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Players_Championship_Finals
Wade has got a lovely looking draw in the top section of the field given the unique seeding of this event based on the floor events OOM for the seasoon not the actual world rankings. Price drawn to play Jackpot potentially in the 2nd round which is interesting as is Whitlock v Ando in the second round. Intereesting battle to not finish 16th in the official order of merit as well (and be forced to face MVG in the last 16 of the worlds the following month). This is the last event prior to the worlds. Jackpot/Barney/Cullen involved realistically in this battle. Finishing 14th/15th and face out of form Snake/Cross is a big carrot for them this weekend. Barney doesn't play this weekend and jackpot will be very keen to leapfrog him into 15th. https://www.pdc.tv/pdc-order-of-merit Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 22, 2018, 01:43:53 PM mensur (wiithdrawn this weekend) and price look locked into the dream 6th and 7th spots to avoid Ando and MVG in the 1/4 final stages of the worlds unless Whitlock or Wade win this weekend.
So the (much weaker) bottom half of the world's draw is likely to be Snake/Cross/Price/Mensor/Cullen/Jackpot with the other two seeds 10-11 being between Smith/Chis/White. Lot of out of form operators in that group and a lot of boys having a dream shot at a huge rankings surge potentially. Surely its M Smith's time to finally get a decent draw and do something major with it this year? Or can Jackpot take advantage of the hopefully soft side of the draw and go on his usual xmas heater. The next month could put him properly back in the big time (and PL) for the foreseeable future. Personally would love to see a Smith/Jackpot semi Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 23, 2018, 08:27:59 PM Rob Cross just the next Keith Dellar? Discuss.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 23, 2018, 09:13:31 PM Just the £35k done on Price at 1.01 to win his match when he never had a match dart at a double. Incredible scenes
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 25, 2018, 09:53:45 AM Amazing tournament so far - happy to see Price out the door after last week, don't like him at all, although i do like having him around and was kinda rooting for him to face Gary again this week :D
The bottom half the draw is as we expected looks set to boil down to Gary vs MVG again, but the top half is looking very exciting - Gurney, who's had a pretty poor year by the standards he set himself last yr, really has done nothing to justify a PL return but a final here would lock it up for sure, he's highest ranked, most experienced and is the fave for the top half for sure. Chris Dobey finds himself with a great chance, a final here gets him into the top 30 which would be a great step for him as he's more than good enough to push for the top 16. Danny Noppert could rise to world #41 which in yr 1 on the PDC is really good, he has a year of no money falling from his rankings too so a great platform to have a crack at the top 16 next year. Bunting been hovering around the edge of the top 16 for a couple of years and not been able to get himself back in, he's looking in great shape here to have a go and really seems to be finding the form of his first year on the PDC where he shipped a few titles and got himself into the premier league. Intereesting battle to not finish 16th in the official order of merit as well (and be forced to face MVG in the last 16 of the worlds the following month). This is the last event prior to the worlds. Jackpot/Barney/Cullen involved realistically in this battle. Finishing 14th/15th and face out of form Snake/Cross is a big carrot for them this weekend. Barney doesn't play this weekend and jackpot will be very keen to leapfrog him into 15th. Yeah, looks like the honour falls to Jackpot. 14 Joe Cullen England £244,000 15 Johnny Clayton Wales £234,750 16 Adrian Lewis England £232,750 17 Raymond van Barneveld £225,750 18 Stephen Bunting England £202,250 A final for bunting doesn't quite get him into the top 16, were he to win it he'd leapfrog everyone to world #12 and on current standings Clayton would drop to #16 pushing Jackpot outside the top 16 again. Clayton needs to beat Gary to move ahead of Cullen, who would in turn drop to #16 if Bunting wins. If you're Cullen just just wanna see Clayton lose to Ando today, and if you're Clayton you just wanna see Bunting not win the tournament, luckily for them both this looks pretty much like whats going to happen so baring upsets, a round 3 clash with MVG beckons for Lewis. Worlds is absolutely littered with danger early round draws anyway, Dimitri, Ratajski, de Zwaan, Meulenkamp, Dobey, Lennon are all outside the world 32 and could face anyone in round 1, if you're a guy on the periphery of the top 8 (Chizzy, Webster, White, Smith) last thing you wanna do is draw Dimitri in round 1 when at least a couple of the guys around you are set to pick up big prize money. Looking forward to today, looks like a Gurney MVG final is the favourite, however I'm rooting for Gary vs Dobey :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 26, 2018, 01:17:25 PM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_PDC_World_Darts_Championship
Draw effectively has been made now the OOM has been updated (barring the live outsiders to be slotted in somewhere) MVG has a brutal looking draw for me. Wade looks incredibly short at 40/1 even with his recent nappy factor upturn in form might ease off. He looks maximum lay material to me at the prices. He has never got close to winning the world's and given his brutal draw this year i don't see that changing anytime soon. I don't see why Whitlock is more than twice Wade's price tbh. The top half is predictably heavy and the bottom quarter looks the softest. Price has the dream looking draw if he can cope with the xmas party pissed up boo boys! M Smith is the selection for me at 22/1 at skybet looks worthy of a lumpy bet ew. His time has come and has a favourable looking draw. What does everyone else think? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 26, 2018, 02:36:37 PM draw is 530pm today on sky sports news live.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 26, 2018, 03:01:40 PM Super Suljovic!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 26, 2018, 07:01:26 PM JDZ isn’t the first round draw Cross would have been hoping for. Likewise, Wade with Ratajski. Top half is a minefield.
Bottom half and bottom quarter in particular is very week. Price has a really first round match against Aspinall but he has a nice run through thereafter. I could see someone like West having a deep run at a huge price if he manages to ping a few doubles. Smith v Suljovic looks like a cracker in the last 16, I’d fancy the winner of that to make the final. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 26, 2018, 07:14:16 PM JDZ isn’t the first round draw Cross would have been hoping for. Likewise, Wade with Ratajski. Top half is a minefield. Bottom half and bottom quarter in particular is very week. Price has a really first round match against Aspinall but he has a nice run through thereafter. I could see someone like West having a deep run at a huge price if he manages to ping a few doubles. Smith v Suljovic looks like a cracker in the last 16, I’d fancy the winner of that to make the final. Wade must be close to 100/1 poke for me given his draw. I just don't get his price at all. Should have drifted after the draw but it hasn't. Price just have to deal with the xmas party drunk boo boys and looks to have an incredible draw. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on November 26, 2018, 08:20:25 PM Smith definitely the ew poke for me. Cross and Wright just not at the races recently, can see a Smith/Price semi to go with the MvG/Ando one in the top half.
I'll be backing JDZ vs Cross rd1! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 26, 2018, 08:49:31 PM Think gurney could get to the final again
Don’t fancy price vs k.anderson or white Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 27, 2018, 01:49:25 PM JDZ isn’t the first round draw Cross would have been hoping for. Likewise, Wade with Ratajski. Top half is a minefield. Bottom half and bottom quarter in particular is very week. Price has a really first round match against Aspinall but he has a nice run through thereafter. I could see someone like West having a deep run at a huge price if he manages to ping a few doubles. Smith v Suljovic looks like a cracker in the last 16, I’d fancy the winner of that to make the final. Wade must be close to 100/1 poke for me given his draw. I just don't get his price at all. Should have drifted after the draw but it hasn't. Price just have to deal with the xmas party drunk boo boys and looks to have an incredible draw. Yeah agree. Wade should be much bigger. He’s a false price due to his back to back tournament wins but he only beat one top 8 player across both tournaments and survived match darts in 3 matches. It’s fair to say he ran above average. Wright would have struggled to hand pick a better draw but he looks pretty out of touch at the minute and turning up with different darts at every tournament so tough to get excited about him despite the draw. Top half of the 3rd quarter is interesting with 4 dangerous floaters in jDZ, VDB, Evans and Humphries all landing in there. Along with Clayton and Bunting who are in decent nick. I don’t fancy Cross’ chances much. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 28, 2018, 01:46:57 PM Darts is so strong right now that you cant ever get an "easy draw" but a few people will be happier than others for sure.
MVG has drifted to as big as 11/8, 8/5 and even some 2.7 knocking about on various exchanges, certainly the first time he's ever been this long for a tournament ever, even at this i'm not a backer. His draw is ok-ish, early rounds present a real problem for MVG potentially as he's really struggled to maintain focus in these games all year and obviously puts way too much pressure on himself, Raymond Smith has a bit of class we saw it in the WSOD but as far as dangerous second round games go he's come out just fine. His Round 3 game likely Noppert or Hopp and neither of those 2 are dreamy second round opponent, round 3 vs Lewis (who has shown glimpses of his past self of late) Barney, who cannot help but play A*** game vs MVG every time they meet, and a dangerous floater in Labanauskas. Last 16 vs Whitlock/Wade/Ratajski perhaps and then a semi (probably) vs Gary who ironed him out over a long format in wolverhampton 10 days ago, I think realistically you'd need 9/4+ before you started seriously considering a bet. Lewis andBarney are both 66/1 kinda prices and I think you'd struggle to be too excited about them given the years they've had and the draws they have, Barney in particular has a really nasty draw. One place I think we might be able to look for some sneaky ew value is the bottom half of MVG's section, the top half of section 1 is way tougher than the bottom, Klaasen and Norris are two of the weaker seeds on paper and with MVG having a few banana skins in his path there's a non 0% chance they might swerve having to meet him. Unfortunately there isn't really too many spots, Wade is a complete non starter at 40-1, Whitlock is in good form really wanted to see 100-1 on him, I think one that might be worth a sneaky punt is Ratajski at 200/1, and 40/1 to win his 1/4 might be worth a look. Gary has come from 6-1, 13/2 to 7/2, 100/30 over the past few weeks, even losing to MVG on sunday didnt stop him from shortening still, the format suits Gary down to the ground and he's been the best player over the year for sure, he'll be pretty pleased with his draw, Wattimena, Beaton, Webster, Van der Voort and a couple of danger floaters in Barnard and Dobey but his path the 1/4s should be relatively painless, 1/4 final vs most likely Gurney (who he has an appalling record against) who'll be full of confidence after the Players, but he has a dangerous section too, Chizzy returning to form, Jamie Lewis playing stage darts, and some really dangerous guys like Ross Smith, Paul Lim, Martin Schindler, Josh Payne. Just the fact he likely has a 1/4 vs Gurney and a semi vs MVG make 100/30 a no-go on Gary, huge odds-on to win his 1/4 and rightly so. No - one else really stands out with any value in Q2, the top half of Q2 all face a likely Gary quarter final, MVG semi final, Gurney - like wade - is at 33s falsely after his players win, I think this is the section of the draw we're least likely to see an upset! Q3 is much more interesting, Rob Cross, who has had a year full of inconsistency, bad luck, bad results ould have been hoping for a little rub of the green on his defending WC draw, and he hasn't got it at all. Opening against dw Zwaan who's already killed MVG on the first round of 2 majors this year and absolutely loves stage darts is exactly what he wasn't wanting, then he has Reyes/Evans who are both playing really well at the moment, then Clayton and Bunting who are both in markedly improved form, Dimitri who is a different player on this stage, and Luke Humprhies who's beat him on stage this year already and given everyone a game on the euro tours. Really horrible top half of Q3. Cross has drifted out to 20s+ and im still not interested. If you're Micheal Smith, you're looking at this thinking, man I could have a real crack at this this year. Big Ron most likely opener (dont right Portela off though) followed by a 3rd round with Hendo or Clemens not easy but shouldn't give him too many problems. Mensur on the other hand has a really dangerous little run-in, Ryan Searle since the light switch flicked on midway through the year is no-one anyone wants to play, James Wilson is in great form and that gets him in front of micheal smith, could be anyone to play in the 1/4 finals of that section, Smith form is improving, Mensur's seems to be fading. It's the kind of quarter where all the favourites might knock into each other and leave the path for a younger guy to sneak through. Smith come in from 60s+ to start the year to as low as 14/1 now, Mensur around 20s where he is for every tournament and Dimitri come into 66s, for me, I quite like the look of Jonny Clayton at 150/1. in Q4 Wright has found himself with the easiest run to the 1.4s possible under the circumstances. Cullen is a danger but Benito and King are wildly out of sorts, Mansell quite a tricky character, Jan Dekker can be dangerous and Dolan shown a decent bit of form at the players but really it's pretty soft, the top half of this quarter is way way trickier, all 4 of the seeds are in really good form (Price, Anderson, White and West) North, de Graaf and Aspinall are dangerous wildcards too. If you can come through few tricky openers you got a match they'll all fancy vs Wright on current form and a winnable semi. Ian White available at 100/1 looks crazy long to me, he has the TV hoo-doo but he's too good to never get past the 1/4 finals forever and this has been his best year in terms of overall performance. Joe Cullen at the same price 100/1 also looks a bit tempting given how good he can be, just seems to have this gremlin for the big moments like IW. Be interesting to see how the Ladies do, those two are not going to be pushovers by any stretch, Lisa Ashton actualy has an ok draw too, Dekker/King/Cullen/Wright could have been a lot worse. Anastasia has a tougher draw with Whitlock in round 2, both of them have very winnable openers though. I quite like, Small Ratajski 200/1 ew Small Ratajski to win his 1/4 40/1 Small Jonny clayton 125/1 ew Small Ian White 100/1 Small Joe Cullen 100/1 Roll on Roll on Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on November 28, 2018, 04:01:09 PM Thanks again Dave, bring on the worlds!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 28, 2018, 11:15:58 PM great post dave. Agree with everything apart from IW!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on November 29, 2018, 10:09:42 AM (http://i.imgur.com/JELWosq.jpg) (https://imgur.com/JELWosq) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on November 29, 2018, 10:33:57 AM Busy night for JDZ to open. I don’t think that’s a negative though. He has what is likely the weakest qualifier as his first roun opponent. It should be a 3-0 on the bridle job and will allow him to get a feel for the stage before playing Cross which will be an advantage.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 10, 2018, 02:44:14 PM https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/dec/10/rob-cross-pdc-world-darts-championship
Interesting article into RC's year as world champ. Put on 5 stone he said in 5 months after winning the worlds. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 10, 2018, 03:39:11 PM That's some going :o
It took me 4 years to do that, and I hardly move from my chair! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 11, 2018, 05:32:35 PM great post dave. Agree with everything apart from IW!!! Yeh, i have a blind spot for IW, every major he gets a half decent draw I say proudly on here "This looks like the time for the diamond!" and every time he gets ironed in the second round by some journeyman averaging 95, he's gonna average 106 in his first game and not lose a leg, then he;l average 88 vs Steve West and get beat. I watched all the non TV stuff and he just plays SO good lol, why on earth after all this time he can't bring it to the TV i just don't know, the fact he;s never been past the 1/4 of a PDC major is the biggest anomaly going. Im sure i'll learn one day, not today though need more time :P Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 11, 2018, 06:38:17 PM great post dave. Agree with everything apart from IW!!! Yeh, i have a blind spot for IW, every major he gets a half decent draw I say proudly on here "This looks like the time for the diamond!" and every time he gets ironed in the second round by some journeyman averaging 95, he's gonna average 106 in his first game and not lose a leg, then he;l average 88 vs Steve West and get beat. I watched all the non TV stuff and he just plays SO good lol, why on earth after all this time he can't bring it to the TV i just don't know, the fact he;s never been past the 1/4 of a PDC major is the biggest anomaly going. Im sure i'll learn one day, not today though need more time :P I got a theory behind it tbh. I think he knows if he went deep in a tv major his step daughter would get so much coverage she would be offered a babestation contract! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: apezmonkeyz on December 11, 2018, 07:34:09 PM If she was, i bet her phone line would be busy
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: peejaytwo on December 11, 2018, 09:18:46 PM Google is your friend.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjIupTV2ZjfAhUdgM4BHbAmB6IQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fcalumg48%2Fstatus%2F624326190266847232&psig=AOvVaw0mbNZOKAC4R5YX507qYP_-&ust=1544649337155741 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 11, 2018, 10:38:11 PM great post dave. Agree with everything apart from IW!!! Yeh, i have a blind spot for IW, every major he gets a half decent draw I say proudly on here "This looks like the time for the diamond!" and every time he gets ironed in the second round by some journeyman averaging 95, he's gonna average 106 in his first game and not lose a leg, then he;l average 88 vs Steve West and get beat. I watched all the non TV stuff and he just plays SO good lol, why on earth after all this time he can't bring it to the TV i just don't know, the fact he;s never been past the 1/4 of a PDC major is the biggest anomaly going. Im sure i'll learn one day, not today though need more time :P I got a theory behind it tbh. I think he knows if he went deep in a tv major his step daughter would get so much coverage she would be offered a babestation contract! Haha, nailed it - she already on BS! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 11, 2018, 10:45:07 PM great post dave. Agree with everything apart from IW!!! Yeh, i have a blind spot for IW, every major he gets a half decent draw I say proudly on here "This looks like the time for the diamond!" and every time he gets ironed in the second round by some journeyman averaging 95, he's gonna average 106 in his first game and not lose a leg, then he;l average 88 vs Steve West and get beat. I watched all the non TV stuff and he just plays SO good lol, why on earth after all this time he can't bring it to the TV i just don't know, the fact he;s never been past the 1/4 of a PDC major is the biggest anomaly going. Im sure i'll learn one day, not today though need more time :P I got a theory behind it tbh. I think he knows if he went deep in a tv major his step daughter would get so much coverage she would be offered a babestation contract! Haha, nailed it - she already on BS! Is she? i was taking the piss saying that! I genuinely didn't know. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 12, 2018, 10:30:49 AM https://twitter.com/IanDiamondWhite/status/1072480435899392000
Hard not to love White seems a great bloke Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 12, 2018, 01:37:17 PM great post dave. Agree with everything apart from IW!!! Yeh, i have a blind spot for IW, every major he gets a half decent draw I say proudly on here "This looks like the time for the diamond!" and every time he gets ironed in the second round by some journeyman averaging 95, he's gonna average 106 in his first game and not lose a leg, then he;l average 88 vs Steve West and get beat. I watched all the non TV stuff and he just plays SO good lol, why on earth after all this time he can't bring it to the TV i just don't know, the fact he;s never been past the 1/4 of a PDC major is the biggest anomaly going. Im sure i'll learn one day, not today though need more time :P I got a theory behind it tbh. I think he knows if he went deep in a tv major his step daughter would get so much coverage she would be offered a babestation contract! Haha, nailed it - she already on BS! Is she? i was taking the piss saying that! I genuinely didn't know. haha no i was ment to say "looks like she's" - Iw making a few quid these days keeping her honest :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 13, 2018, 05:02:19 AM https://www.racingpost.com/sport/darts/fiery-gerwyn-price-looks-ready-to-take-advantage-of-favourable-ally-pally-draw/357304
https://www.racingpost.com/sport/darts/well-worth-backing-there-to-be-a-new-pdc-hero-this-year/357363 Post predictions for the worlds. https://www.racingpost.com/sport/darts/count-on-cody-harris-to-see-off-german-wannabe/357325 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Chompy on December 13, 2018, 10:37:51 AM Back Smith EW @ 14-1, dump most of the win part on the machine and ride the 7-1 to make the final? Seem like a plan?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 13, 2018, 12:21:10 PM Don't agree with the Schindler/Harris tip much, i think they made a few blind assumptions on the stats without really looking at the players specifically
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 13, 2018, 03:54:31 PM https://twitter.com/ochepedia/status/1073243750338584577
Love this guy amazed he gives away so much data for free Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 17, 2018, 10:24:26 AM Been a relatively slow start so far but for me yesterday it came alive.
Josh Payne played fantastically well for two sets but then dropped a gear and let Chizzy in for a great comeback. Then Peter Wright looked massively underprepared for Toni Alcinas and deservedly got beat. Not seen much of Luke Humphries or Labanauskas but was impressed with both. Labanauskas looks exactly the type of player who could give Barney some problems later tonight. Fourth quarter wide open even more now. You have to be loving life if you are Gerwyn Price! Surely we can't get a Price Anderson final? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 17, 2018, 02:58:46 PM Been a relatively slow start so far but for me yesterday it came alive. Josh Payne played fantastically well for two sets but then dropped a gear and let Chizzy in for a great comeback. Then Peter Wright looked massively underprepared for Toni Alcinas and deservedly got beat. Not seen much of Luke Humphries or Labanauskas but was impressed with both. Labanauskas looks exactly the type of player who could give Barney some problems later tonight. Fourth quarter wide open even more now. You have to be loving life if you are Gerwyn Price! Surely we can't get a Price Anderson final? Hope not :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 17, 2018, 04:47:58 PM It feels like almost every tournament this year that the draw has opened up for Joe Cullen. He’s yet to take advantage of one yet. He has a dream run to the QF’s here. Dolan, King/Dekker, Alcinas/VDP/Long. It doesn’t get much better than that.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 17, 2018, 06:59:01 PM Was talking about Cullen to my mate earlier.
He was extremely unlucky vs Anderson at the Match-Play and finally looked at home on the stage. Nobody is talking about him and he like you said he has the absolute dream draw. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 17, 2018, 08:17:46 PM cant bring myself to back Cullen I would say the price now has the draw more than factored in
good first game that Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 17, 2018, 10:12:16 PM have added ricky evans at 500s with hills to my rags list
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 17, 2018, 10:39:00 PM Cullen has blown some big chances this year, the Euros he'll still be kicking himself over, wont be dream draw every time need to book something. You get 50 bags for making a 1/4 final here and really he needs to put that on the board.
Ian White another one who never capitalises on this type of spot, his draw is a fair bit tougher but he should think it winnable. Steve West/Gerwyn Price/one of the aforementioned 1/4 finalists then a likely semi vs Mensur/Smith/Cross. This is to make a world final after all, I think the biggest concern is long formats and set play, just doen't seem to work for him/ Don't fancy Gerwyn Price, just don't think set play suits his game. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 18, 2018, 12:00:11 AM Please retire now Barney and leave us with the great memories. Don't do the farewall tour. You are not going to get into many events to do the tour. Just do the PL for the farewell tour and hang them up.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 18, 2018, 12:23:49 AM Been a relatively slow start so far but for me yesterday it came alive. Josh Payne played fantastically well for two sets but then dropped a gear and let Chizzy in for a great comeback. Then Peter Wright looked massively underprepared for Toni Alcinas and deservedly got beat. Not seen much of Luke Humphries or Labanauskas but was impressed with both. Labanauskas looks exactly the type of player who could give Barney some problems later tonight. Fourth quarter wide open even more now. You have to be loving life if you are Gerwyn Price! Surely we can't get a Price Anderson final? Lovely. Fetch my wheelbarrow. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 18, 2018, 09:37:35 AM gd call Hutch
I was very close to backing Laba but was a bit greedy on the price In the end he didnt have to play well Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 19, 2018, 02:58:48 PM Cullen oh dear (so far anyway)
Let playing Dolan get to him see pre match interview rather than focusing on having the easiest draw possible he will ever get in any tv tournament Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on December 19, 2018, 03:21:04 PM Mensur plays Ryan Searle ( who is local to me .....not important but makes it an interest ) Ryan won first round match with ease, a lot is about his first dart, can get some big scores going. has won tourney recently and played Mensur only once before (lost5-6) is 4/1 a decent enough price ? if you are gonna get upsets, and there has been a few already its more likely early stages where shorter match.. prob get hammered.....thoughts
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 19, 2018, 04:49:01 PM Cullen oh dear (so far anyway) Let playing Dolan get to him see pre match interview rather than focusing on having the easiest draw possible he will ever get in any tv tournament Pretty much sums up his year. Gets gifted golden opportunities and hasn’t take any of them. A lack of minerals. Massive opportunity for the guys left in the bottom half of that draw to scoop 50 bags for a QF spot. Whoever gets through from the top half of Q4 will be loving their QF opponent. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 19, 2018, 05:12:26 PM Cullen gonna Cullen.
He doesn't want it enough if you ask me. Lacks the mental strength to ever be a top player. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on December 19, 2018, 08:11:46 PM Quick chirp...my cousins daughter has been voted one of the players of the year by the BDO. Well done Roz.
https://www.bdodarts.com/index.php/item/3-main-news/144-2018-bdo-personalities-of-the-year?fbclid=IwAR0bz6KxMHhhWkDY123-SskHTro0lxuPX5Dz6TbCexGOQpHOYLh6k4o8CUQ Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2018, 08:46:03 PM Quick chirp...my cousins daughter has been voted one of the players of the year by the BDO. Well done Roz. https://www.bdodarts.com/index.php/item/3-main-news/144-2018-bdo-personalities-of-the-year?fbclid=IwAR0bz6KxMHhhWkDY123-SskHTro0lxuPX5Dz6TbCexGOQpHOYLh6k4o8CUQ Definitely worth a chirp, David, hope she continues to do well. "Roz Bulmer has made excellent headway in her first full season on the BDO tour. Roz has been a notable player for Norfolk County Darts for some time, but this season saw her form part of ‘Norfolk on Tour’ as she and many of her fellow county players embarked on tackling the BDO circuit. Roz made quick progress, reaching the semi-finals of the World Dart Trophy as well as the Denmark Open. Coupled with several quarter-final placings, Roz broke into the top 14 of the world rankings, ensuring herself a place at Lakeside! These accomplishments are especially inspiring following the challenges Roz has had to face, and is still facing, over the last few years following two separate cancer diagnoses". (http://i.imgur.com/dDVlEaX.jpg) (https://imgur.com/dDVlEaX) (http://i.imgur.com/svRuF6V.jpg) (https://imgur.com/svRuF6V) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 19, 2018, 08:47:17 PM fantastic booder well done
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 19, 2018, 08:47:19 PM Boo, not to detract in any way from Roz's superb achievements, but roughly how many Cousins do you have up there in Norfolk? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on December 19, 2018, 10:06:08 PM Boo, not to detract in any way from Roz's superb achievements, but roughly how many Cousins do you have up there in Norfolk? Just the 9. It's the Fenlanders (Chompy's mob )who tend to have larger families Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2018, 10:19:48 PM Boo, not to detract in any way from Roz's superb achievements, but roughly how many Cousins do you have up there in Norfolk? Just the 9. It's the Fenlanders (Chompy's mob )who tend to have larger families :D Some achievement. Congrats to her! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on December 19, 2018, 11:31:22 PM wtf is the matter with Wade?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 19, 2018, 11:34:19 PM must be back on the booze pre game like the old days. That was very strange. interview afterwards even worse than what happened in the game.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on December 19, 2018, 11:38:50 PM Yeah interview was weird, win for my country .....really.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on December 19, 2018, 11:42:21 PM Yeah interview was weird, win for my country .....really. Don't forget the 10 week old son who texted him as well Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on December 19, 2018, 11:47:14 PM kids nowadays......
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2018, 11:59:52 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 20, 2018, 11:45:33 AM Wade responded with this on Twitter; (http://i.imgur.com/5ONCZgY.jpg) (https://imgur.com/5ONCZgY) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2018, 12:29:48 PM Buglemania.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 20, 2018, 03:47:42 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nirvana on December 20, 2018, 04:24:52 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2018, 04:45:59 PM Got to get your laughs when you can, before March, when I'm being fed saline drip instead of Tysabri ;)
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/l378uDY03w4rkDGvK/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095c1bc6eb4e684d7573049377) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on December 20, 2018, 11:25:00 PM Suljovic with 9 180s before his first 140
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: atdc21 on December 20, 2018, 11:29:45 PM Mensur plays Ryan Searle ( who is local to me .....not important but makes it an interest ) Ryan won first round match with ease, a lot is about his first dart, can get some big scores going. has won tourney recently and played Mensur only once before (lost5-6) is 4/1 a decent enough price ? if you are gonna get upsets, and there has been a few already its more likely early stages where shorter match.. prob get hammered.....thoughts go on nipperTitle: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 21, 2018, 10:21:53 PM Is Aspinall Ritchie Burnett's secret darting love child? He looks just like him and dances along the oche like him after a big check out.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 22, 2018, 08:59:21 AM Is Aspinall Ritchie Burnett's secret darting love child? He looks just like him and dances along the oche like him after a big check out. I’d never made the connection before but you are spot on. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on December 23, 2018, 01:20:31 PM Has Dobey got any brothers?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Knottikay on December 23, 2018, 03:40:47 PM Not hard facts, but good info been given to me on Lewis. A good mate of mine, who knows him, has said he has been practicing very hard for this Worlds. Also rumours of him having some 'coaching' off Taylor. More off the oche stuff then on it.
If he wins tonight, he meets MVG in next round. He will be well up for it. MVG has stated after his last match that his reoccurring back trouble might have returned and might have an influence on the match. 40/1 to win overall on Sky or 33/1 e/w the place (1/2). Might be worth a small punt. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 23, 2018, 03:51:53 PM Wouldn't put you off but don't back him ew even at 1/2 odds. 1/3 odds would be one of the worst ew bets you ever had. Win only on bf if you want to back him. He is 35/1 on the exchange and will probably be 22/1 to reach the final given his brutal draw. He must really be regretting not winning another £2k on the moneylist over the past 2 years that would have seeded him 15 for this rather than 16 and in the bottom half of the draw.
He looked very humble in his first match and that he realises he needs to get back to basics which i think he has. He looks really good in the first match. We need stokes finest back to his best for darts longer term. I think the best thing he could do with be to get Taylor on board and get rid of Dellar as his manager. No idea what Dellar adds to his equation. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 23, 2018, 04:54:36 PM Keegan Brown is a bang average player and a horrible little fecker alongside with all his dirty tactics there that if he had thought about them wouldn't put a slower player like Wade off. His scoring is so inconsistent and an average finishing wade there would have beaten him 4-0 or 4-1.
The scoring stats of 56 100+ scores for wade and 33 for Brown were incredible just before the finish. The 140+ and 180s were similar. I think Brown is at his level and can't see him getting any better tbh. The impression he gives is that he thinks he is a lot more talented than he actually is and is probably what is costing him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2018, 06:34:47 PM I am still flabbergasted that taking your darts out of the board slowly could upset a professional player, certainly don't think it bothered Wade at all today, I think he was SLIGHTLY rattled by the crowd (fair enough, 7000 people screaming and jeering at you is tough no matter how experienced you are) and then just had a bit of an off-day on the doubling first few sets.
Klaasen complained about it, im sure it's poor ettiquette but come on mate jesus you're a pro player if someone taking their darts slowly out of the board puts you off you need to take a long hard look at yourself! I suspect Keegan just thought, well it worked great against Jelle im not doing anything wrong il keep doing it. Truthfully quite a few of these guys are simpletons and doesn't take much to rattle them, I thought Keegan today put in a decent effort and just wasn't quite good enough vs a grizzled old warrior in Wadey. Big shift in darts happening - the new guys aren't afraid and if you play world #50 and dont show up you are likely getting ironed out. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on December 27, 2018, 12:49:23 AM I am still flabbergasted that taking your darts out of the board slowly could upset a professional player, certainly don't think it bothered Wade at all today, I think he was SLIGHTLY rattled by the crowd (fair enough, 7000 people screaming and jeering at you is tough no matter how experienced you are) and then just had a bit of an off-day on the doubling first few sets. Klaasen complained about it, im sure it's poor ettiquette but come on mate jesus you're a pro player if someone taking their darts slowly out of the board puts you off you need to take a long hard look at yourself! I suspect Keegan just thought, well it worked great against Jelle im not doing anything wrong il keep doing it. Truthfully quite a few of these guys are simpletons and doesn't take much to rattle them, I thought Keegan today put in a decent effort and just wasn't quite good enough vs a grizzled old warrior in Wadey. Big shift in darts happening - the new guys aren't afraid and if you play world #50 and dont show up you are likely getting ironed out. Been thinking about this for a little while and I've cone up with this.. Was playing down the pub with a couple mates tonight & 1 of the guys was noticeably slower at retrieving his darts and did a few other things as well. How did I deal with it? I took the piss out of him and did the same to him when I retrieved my darts but exaggerated it etc. Did that cause him to speed up? Maybe Did it get under his skin? Maybe Was it annoying to me that he was a bit slower than the others? It was for a couple throws but I then just got into the rhythm, I knew it would take him that long so I just wasn't at the oche getting pissed off. Taking the piss/bants about it during the game did help in terms of me not getting frustrated by it all. I think this is the key point for the guys up on the big stage. They can't really "vent" apart from exuberant celebrations. In the local pool league "barracking" is completely fine so long as it's not during the shot etc etc. Sledging in cricket is fine Why not sledging in darts? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 27, 2018, 01:58:35 PM really impressed with Devon there a different man to previous models the 180s have come out of nowhere still not heavy enough scorer to beat anyone playing that well but the composure shown was very impressive
pretty much the crowd favourite left helps sounds like a case of nappy factor in the interview afterwards Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2018, 05:40:46 PM Literally no idea where he has found that from. His form all year has been brutal yet he has turned up here and somehow saved his tour card. That quarter is now well and truly up for grabs with the hundred bags that go with it making a massive difference to the players involved as it will rocket them up the rankings.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on December 27, 2018, 05:43:46 PM Yep was awful in first match as well
Just seems more mature and the crowd seem even more with him this year than ever which may be a small help. 100k money match! Fancy him fairly strongly against Aspinall would be pick em personally. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 27, 2018, 11:20:00 PM Some proper darts thrown tonight.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on December 28, 2018, 12:00:15 AM Incred scenes tonight.
If Lewis could of held for a 2nd set I was in for some proper wonga. Cleaned up jicely on Devron earlier in day though. Love it. Fancy Humphries over Cross now too! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 28, 2018, 10:47:43 AM Was a send more money job after Dancing Dmitri yesterday afternoon. Kept going back in, couldn't see how he could lose. Hugely disappointing performance.
Got out of trouble on VDP later though. Huge day today, fancy Joyce to turn Wadey over. What a match Ando Vs Dobey, incredible scenes. Is Gary's name written on it this year? He'll have to up his average for the inevitable semi vs MvG if he is to beat him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 28, 2018, 12:50:45 PM dont really like Devon here vs Asp - he's just broke first game here but mostly he's been gifted a LOT so far this tournament and I think in Aspinall he's gonna face a much stiffer challenge than he's had so far and not actually seen anything that can suggest he can stand it. Think Asp wins and it's priced in pretty decent
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2018, 03:53:24 PM Mensur plays Ryan Searle ( who is local to me .....not important but makes it an interest ) Ryan won first round match with ease, a lot is about his first dart, can get some big scores going. has won tourney recently and played Mensur only once before (lost5-6) is 4/1 a decent enough price ? if you are gonna get upsets, and there has been a few already its more likely early stages where shorter match.. prob get hammered.....thoughts go on nipperOnly just seen he's from Somerset, so just up the road from me. Have to cheer him on, if Smith can't win it :) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 28, 2018, 05:26:25 PM Ryan Joyce, Brendan Dolan and Nathan Aspinall all WC quarter finalists. How has this happened. Dobey vul not to have joined them as well.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2018, 10:05:00 PM Didn't know Ben Jackson had sacked poker off, and started playing Darts!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on December 28, 2018, 10:37:16 PM Incred scenes tonight. If Lewis could of held for a 2nd set I was in for some proper wonga. Cleaned up jicely on Devron earlier in day though. Love it. Fancy Humphries over Cross now too! Booom. Send more sacks. Ive just emptied Coral! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 29, 2018, 09:24:43 AM Humphries is going to be a star. Great action, solid under pressure and the right mentality. None of this happy just to be here stuff from him in his post match interview, he believes he can win it. He has showed glimpses of that form on the Euro Tour this season but has a tendency to chick in a 90 ave which usually ends his run, he got away with it this time against VDB.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2018, 11:27:44 PM Must be a few here on Bully?
Can Smithy pay for Xmas :P Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on December 30, 2018, 06:57:54 AM Must be a few here on Bully? Can Smithy pay for Xmas :P I think Arb got us on bully on tft, 33/1 from memory. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 30, 2018, 07:58:14 AM Must be a few here on Bully? Can Smithy pay for Xmas :P B-E followers were given 2 Outrights before it started - Mensur Suljovic & Smith. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 30, 2018, 09:04:57 PM Channings mob in clover, as always ;)
Great game, that! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 30, 2018, 09:05:08 PM can anyone tell me how many 170's all tournament there have been pre Anderson MVG semi please? I don't know where to look.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: BigAdz on December 30, 2018, 09:14:45 PM Must be a few here on Bully? Can Smithy pay for Xmas :P I think Arb got us on bully on tft, 33/1 from memory. Yup. Been sat on those vouchers a while. Small top ups along the way, it's been quite a ride. Halfway there and already a great result. Wp Arb. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: dino1980 on December 30, 2018, 09:26:39 PM +1 cheers Arb. Got ew tickets at 33/1 and 28/1.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Ant040689 on December 30, 2018, 09:30:28 PM +1 cheers Arb. Got ew tickets at 33/1 and 28/1. got on the tip as well cheers ARB Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 30, 2018, 09:30:52 PM Nice work lads. Fingers crossed for the final. Be nice to see Smith ranked closer to where he should be ranked in 2019. Just need jackpot back to his best next year as well to get the really naturally talented chuckers all at the top of the game. Been too many bang average grinder types lurking at the top of the rankings last couple of years.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on December 31, 2018, 10:07:51 AM can anyone tell me how many 170's all tournament there have been pre Anderson MVG semi please? I don't know where to look. 3 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 31, 2018, 06:27:17 PM Come on, Smudger!!
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/MAA3oWobZycms/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095c2a5f6938694559732034d0) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2019, 09:08:36 PM Can't say he hasn't had chances.
Same as when MVG made it first time, and we were all on at massive prices :( Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 01, 2019, 09:10:52 PM Can't say he hasn't had chances. Same as when MVG made it first time, and we were all on at massive prices :( At least MVG actually gave us a run for our money. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Doobs on January 01, 2019, 09:20:40 PM Can't say he hasn't had chances. Same as when MVG made it first time, and we were all on at massive prices :( At least MVG actually gave us a run for our money. never in doubt ;whistle; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 01, 2019, 10:12:17 PM Only a 102 ave from MVG and Smith doesn’t lay a glove on him.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on January 01, 2019, 10:17:32 PM UL Smith backers.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on January 01, 2019, 10:42:33 PM Mvg
Cross Wright Anderson Gurney Price Suljovic Barney Smith Wade Premier league line up Would have preferred chisnall to wade, his maximums in the short format, no Whitlock or Anderson hmm Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on January 01, 2019, 10:45:23 PM https://mobile.twitter.com/SWhitlock180/status/1068274698818068482
Wonder what happened ‘looking forward to be back in the @unibet Premier League in February... the wizard is back’ Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 01, 2019, 11:44:39 PM Incredible tweet that early when he was big odds on to NOT make it a month before the worlds. 2 players who were 1.01 to be in the premier league made the world final and he still coouldn'tt get in. Not sure why he was convinced he would make it given who won the tv majors this year and the fact Barney would be a cert for a sky wild card with the top 4 auto in. Wonder who he thought you miss out so he would get in?
Whitlock had the toughest draw and probably had to final to have a chance to get in. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 02, 2019, 02:02:49 PM Once Gurney won the Players he was drawing very thin. He deserves to be in ahead of Barney on merit but obviously that was never happening. He needed a deep run at the Worlds to have a prayer.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 07:58:09 PM B Hearn mentioned last night in his interview on talksport that he was going to freeze the worlds money moving forward for a few years and increase the other tv majors to stop the huge WC pressure on the rankings which is good news. Maybe he reads Blonde and knows what we have been discussing.
He had a back handed dig at ronnie and the other snooker players about how well the darts boys work with the media to grow the product compared to them. Was an interesting radio interview if you can listen to it somehow on talksport. Quite lengthy with Nicholson and Mason involved as well. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 08:13:16 PM https://www.pdc.tv/pdc-order-of-merit
Updated rankings after the worlds. Sure Dave will do his usual insane update which is an awesome read. The thing that stood out for me is Jackpot has weasaled his way into a 'dream spot' of 14 given he would be seeded to play Snakebite (seeded 3) in the last 16 of any event as it stands. Obviously this will change prior to the next tv major that is drawn on seeds. The UK open in March has a totally open draw. That 14 slot is going to be highly prized if Snake stays as bang out of form as he is currently. He will be locked into the 3rd seed for a fair while yet with £100k difference between 2 and 4 either way. Hard to argue with the current top 12 in the world at the minute apart from Snake and maybe Gurney and Smith are the wrong way around. Smith would have been second in the world if he had won the worlds. Be interesting to see how much progress Jackpot makes in 2019. Barney down in the low 20s now and they said on talksport on the 2018 money list alone (not the 2 year rolling one the rankings use) Barney was ranked 48 in 2018 alone which shows how bang out of form he has been given he has been gifted first round prize money as a minimum in every tv major in 2018 which he won't get next year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 02, 2019, 09:01:01 PM Makes sense to start levelling out the prize money a bit. Bazza obviously wanted to hit the headline figure of half a million to the winner. Now he’s hit that he can start bringing the likes of the MP up to an appropriate level. There should be plenty to go round given there are 249 players registered for Euro Q school and expecting up to 900 at the UK one. At £450 each that’s going to be just shy of £500k in entry fees.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 09:06:35 PM Makes sense to start levelling out the prize money a bit. Bazza obviously wanted to hit the headline figure of half a million to the winner. Now he’s hit that he can start bringing the likes of the MP up to an appropriate level. There should be plenty to go round given there are 249 players registered for Euro Q school and expecting up to 900 at the UK one. At £450 each that’s going to be just shy of £500k in entry fees. I saw the £450 entry fee and my eyebrows raised somewhat. Seems steep. Could me and you register and pay the £450 and turn up just for the craic if we wanted to? Is there no minimum level required if you have the money? Rob Cross (and to a lesser extent the youngsters doing well in the worlds this year) has clearly fueled a 'moneymaker effect' in darts. Didn't realise hired the tennis centre in Wigan was so expensive! I imagine there are huge exs admin/refs/scorers for the Q school. It must be a huge operation running it with so much at stake i can't imagine the players score themselves right? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 02, 2019, 09:19:12 PM Makes sense to start levelling out the prize money a bit. Bazza obviously wanted to hit the headline figure of half a million to the winner. Now he’s hit that he can start bringing the likes of the MP up to an appropriate level. There should be plenty to go round given there are 249 players registered for Euro Q school and expecting up to 900 at the UK one. At £450 each that’s going to be just shy of £500k in entry fees. I saw the £450 entry fee and my eyebrows raised somewhat. Seems steep. Could me and you register and pay the £450 and turn up just for the craic if we wanted to? Is there no minimum level required if you have the money? Rob Cross (and to a lesser extent the youngsters doing well in the worlds this year) has clearly fueled a 'moneymaker effect' in darts. Didn't realise hired the tennis centre in Wigan was so expensive! I imagine there are huge exs admin/refs/scorers for the Q school. It must be a huge operation running it with so much at stake i can't imagine the players score themselves right? Yeah no barriers. Pay your money and you are in. I’m not sure regarding markers etc. It must be a nightmare to organose though. They ran the Euro and uK Q schools on the same weekend but have split them this time presumably to ease the staffing burden. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 09:21:12 PM It must be great to turn up to if you are in the darts world. Like rocking up at DTD for the monthly £300 freezeout and running into the grizzed old pros who are gone at the game and the hungry young kids on the way up and a few proper whales who have no chance and just turn up for the craic because they can afford it. There must be some proper pub level boys who turn up for a jolly. Wonder if any pubs run a poker style sat where they all put a score in and the winner that night goes to the q school?
Fair old boost to the Wigan economy for the week. Can't be many free hotel rooms that week i would imagine. What do they do ? Just have a couple of knock out events each day? Win one of them and you are on the tour then a leaderboard over all the events with points for placing and then the remaining places are awarded on a leaderboard basis rewarding consistency? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 09:45:40 PM https://www.pdc.tv/news/2018/12/04/2019-qualifying-school-information
Basically a 900 runner event every day for 4 days and the last 2 standing each day get a tour card. Wonder if they bother to actually play the final if thats the case? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on January 02, 2019, 10:24:12 PM Smith said in his post match interview that Mvg isn’t the best player in the world, wonder who he thinks is
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 11:26:38 PM Smith said in his post match interview that Mvg isn’t the best player in the world, wonder who he thinks is Smith's boss, Ando i would imagine. MVG averaged over a ton in nearly 20 WC games in a row now i read somewhere. That truly is world class. Impossible to argue he isn't the best in the world consistently right now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 03, 2019, 08:08:42 AM I love Micheal Smith, his new found aggressive attitude is great gonna do very well, but seriously saying MVG isn't the best player in the world is kind of a joke and it makes him just look a bit pathetic, i don't know what metric Smith wants to measure "the best player in the world" against but;
2018 "average" average Gary : 99.16 MVG : 102.08 (#1 overall 5+ matches) 2018 Checkout % Gary : 41.85% MVG : 44.33% (#1 overal 100+ attempts) Highest World Ranking 2018 Gary : 4 MVG : 1 Prize Money (Ranking Only / Total) Gary : £437,750 / £695,000 MVG : £963,750 / £1,411,250 Tournament Wins 2018 Gary : 8 MVG : 19 (to give context, #3 = 3, #4 = 3, #5 = 2, so MVG has won 2.4x second, 6.5x third and 9.5x 5th place tourney wins!) He wins more tournaments than anyone else (by a mile) wins more money than anyone else, has been basically untouchable at world #1 for 4 years and is £750k ahead as of today, averages higher, checks out doubles better I mean come on Smith show some class lad, he's decently the best player in the world and its basically only Gary Anderson who's been able to compete with him A-Game for A-Game for a while now. Not only this but he's been doing it for 4 years and has over 75 ranking tournament wins in that period so you can't even say he's fluked it! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 03, 2019, 10:24:51 AM https://www.pdc.tv/news/2018/12/04/2019-qualifying-school-information Basically a 900 runner event every day for 4 days and the last 2 standing each day get a tour card. Wonder if they bother to actually play the final if thats the case? No, they don’t bother playing the final. All of the games are going to be on Dart Connect so we will be able to see how bad some of the averages are. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 03, 2019, 11:59:47 AM A couple of averages in the 40s and a few in the 50s so far.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: engy on January 09, 2019, 02:29:07 PM Any views on the Bdo world championships? Is Durant a good thing?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 09, 2019, 02:31:58 PM Watched most of it been impressed coverage is very good bar Bingham .
Cameron my only back "in running" so far looks to have a solid mentality . Durant obviously a different gear Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 10, 2019, 11:49:37 AM Eurosport coverage has been decent. Bingham obv hopeless though.
The prelims and 1st round was hard work at times but there was some decent stuff played yesterday. Durrant is obviously going to take a lot of beating but Williams looks in really good nick and will be a decent test for him in the semi assuming both make it that far. I also thought Waites looked in decent touch last night as well. It will be interesting to see what is left of the BDO after Q School, given the BDO boys can take a punt now and go back to BDO without penalty. Durrant and Waites have already confirmed they are giving it a go. I’d be stunned if Williams didn’t go as well. I suspect most will take a punt, it would be madness not to especially given Bazza’s announcenr yesterdayt of the increased prize money on the tour. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 12, 2019, 11:16:21 AM Duzza, Waites, Williams, McGeeney, Whitehead already confirmed for Q school. They won’t all get cards but Duzza a very short price to get one and would fancy Waites and williams to get one as well. There won’t be much left of the BDO.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on January 12, 2019, 05:59:08 PM Duzza, Waites, Williams, McGeeney, Whitehead already confirmed for Q school. They won’t all get cards but Duzza a very short price to get one and would fancy Waites and williams to get one as well. There won’t be much left of the BDO. Odds anywhere? Suzuki for q school! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 16, 2019, 02:57:14 PM https://www.pdc.tv/news/2019/01/15/durrant-headlines-uk-q-school-entries
Quality turn out for the q school. Be interesting to see who gets through. Surprised a firm hassn't priced up yes/no to get a tour card for all the major players. https://www.pdc.tv/news/2019/01/15/european-q-school-tour-card-winners-confirmed Euro Q school finished and 11 cards awarded. https://www.pdc.tv/news/2019/01/09/prize-money-soars-above-ps14m-2019 2019 prize money across all events. Matchplay should be £200k ftw imo. Still far too top hheavy for the worlds for ranking purposes Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 16, 2019, 07:46:06 PM I think the BDO boys will do well. I hope Duzza, Williams, Waites and McKinstry get cards as I think they would do well in the PDC. I also think people overstate how tough it is. When guys like terry Temple and Eddie Dootson can get cards it can’t be that tough. Players with genuine quality that have gone have always got through with the exception of Ratajski.
I wonder why some of those that are completely gone at the game like Newton, Osborne etc embarrass themselves by turning up. I’d have tuem a huge price to get a card. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 16, 2019, 07:51:02 PM Yes its quite surprising how low the variance seems to be over a 4 day shootout in best of 9 leg games across four rapid fire events. The best players do seem to routinely get through. Waites and Duzza would have been top 32 operators at worst for the last 5 years if they had moved over. I was tempted to pay the £450 and turn up myself for a jolly up for the weekend. There must be a few dozen of total chancers who have done that and just treat it as a laugh.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 16, 2019, 08:35:49 PM The fact that there is the Order of Merit for those that don’t get an automatic card means the cream generally gets through. A couple of deep runs is usually enough to get a card.
Sky have a market but only offering the one side. Obv no one can get on but they go 4/7 Duzza to get a card which I think is a massive price. He’s head and shoulders above the rest of the field. Williams 2/1 also decent. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 16, 2019, 08:55:50 PM They are both massive
Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general Durrant should be 1/4 tops? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 16, 2019, 09:07:35 PM who is Jason Askew who sky quote at a pony? Someone from their office?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 16, 2019, 09:09:41 PM They are both massive Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general Durrant should be 1/4 tops? I’d be a backer at 1/4. I make him a 1/6 shot. Unless he has forgotten to play darts since the weekend he will cruise through on the bridle. Was back in work Monday morning so not like he has been out on the piss since winning. Look at how MVG eats up the Pro Tour events and the variance in ability level there is a lot shallower than at Q school. At least half of the field don’t have a prayer of getting a card. McKinstry 3/1 and Whitehead 4/1 also big based on Lakeside form. They also have the advantage of being match sharp. Most of the others won’t have thrown a competitive dart for weeks. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 16, 2019, 09:10:43 PM Jason Askew
Jason Askew @JAskew93 On the way to Wigan for my first Q School. Fully focused and ready to give it my best! 👊🎯 #QSchool 6:56 PM · Jan 16, 2019 · Twitter for Android 10 Likes looks like he plays lower league footie Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 16, 2019, 09:11:04 PM here he is Arb!
Gwynedd 2 A 1 0 4 9.95 9.95 Division Two Men's B Dart Average (Top 200) No Player County D M P W F Ave Dave 1 Andrew Gilding Suffolk 2 B 1 1 4 31.05 32.05 2 Ben Poulton Suffolk 2 B 2 2 4 28.11 30.11 3 Tex Houghton Cumbria 2 B 4 4 4 26.07 30.07 4 Eirig Rowlands Gwynedd 2 B 2 2 4 27.37 29.37 5 Gavin Lewis Humberside 2 B 2 2 4 27.08 29.08 6 Scott Lovett Berkshire 2 B 2 2 4 26.34 28.34 7 Dylan Williams Gwynedd 2 B 1 1 4 27.33 28.33 8 Jamie Landon Staffordshire 2 B 1 1 4 27.33 28.33 9 Lee Blakey Humberside 2 B 3 3 4 25.20 28.20 10 Andy Beardmore Staffordshire 2 B 1 1 4 27.01 28.01 11 Stuart Limbert Humberside 2 B 4 2 4 25.87 27.87 12 Robbie Lickiss Humberside 2 B 4 3 4 24.85 27.85 13 Stuart Livesley Staffordshire 2 B 3 2 4 25.74 27.74 14 Tim Embling County Durham 2 B 2 2 4 25.45 27.45 15 Jim Swallwell Worcestershire 2 B 1 1 4 26.37 27.37 16 Ben Davis Staffordshire 2 B 1 1 4 26.33 27.33 17 Dean Scott County Durham 2 B 2 2 4 25.10 27.10 18 Martin Goodin Kent 2 B 4 3 4 24.00 27.00 19 Robert Carr Berkshire 2 B 1 1 4 25.91 26.91 20 Gavin Payne Suffolk 2 B 1 1 4 25.91 26.91 21 Chris Day Gwynedd 2 B 4 3 4 23.89 26.89 22 Karl Hinks Staffordshire 2 B 2 2 4 24.84 26.84 23 Adam Gilders Suffolk 2 B 1 1 4 25.84 26.84 24 Sion Wright Gwynedd 2 B 4 4 4 22.77 26.77 25 Daryn Gray Humberside 2 B 4 3 4 23.73 26.73 26 Paul Wratten Kent 2 B 4 4 4 22.72 26.72 27 Carl Wilson Kent 2 B 4 3 4 23.70 26.70 28 Andrew Foster Cumbria 2 B 2 2 4 24.70 26.70 29 Kev Johnson Staffordshire 2 B 4 3 4 23.65 26.65 30 Eddie Mordica County Durham 2 B 3 3 4 23.62 26.62 31 Lee Parish Humberside 2 B 3 2 4 24.50 26.50 32 Robert Bowers Berkshire 2 B 4 3 4 23.46 26.46 33 Dan Wilson Gwynedd 2 B 2 2 4 24.44 26.44 34 Jamie Dunsdon Staffordshire 2 B 4 3 4 23.40 26.40 35 Andy McNeil-Aitken Berkshire 2 B 1 1 4 25.38 26.38 36 Benjamin Hilditch Staffordshire 2 B 2 1 4 25.32 26.32 37 Neil Parsonage Worcestershire 2 B 4 3 4 23.31 26.31 38 Steve Day Kent 2 B 3 2 4 24.18 26.18 39 Nick Evans Worcestershire 2 B 4 1 4 25.13 26.13 40 Lee Smith Humberside 2 B 4 3 4 23.11 26.11 41 Karl Merchant Staffordshire 2 B 3 2 4 24.11 26.11 42 Kevin Leathers Suffolk 2 B 3 2 4 24.01 26.01 43 Trevor Watters Cumbria 2 B 3 2 4 23.90 25.90 44 Steven Smith Staffordshire 2 B 2 2 4 23.87 25.87 45 Dave Richards Staffordshire 2 B 4 3 4 22.84 25.84 46 Arwyn Jones Gwynedd 2 B 3 3 4 22.83 25.83 47 Tony Hammond Surrey 2 B 3 2 4 23.82 25.82 48 Jason Askew Surrey 2 B 1 0 4 25.80 25.80 think 25/1 looks small! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 16, 2019, 09:16:42 PM He’s the son of Diamond Dave.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 16, 2019, 09:18:19 PM They are both massive Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general Durrant should be 1/4 tops? I’d be a backer at 1/4. I make him a 1/6 shot. Unless he has forgotten to play darts since the weekend he will cruise through on the bridle. Was back in work Monday morning so not like he has been out on the piss since winning. Look at how MVG eats up the Pro Tour events and the variance in ability level there is a lot shallower than at Q school. At least half of the field don’t have a prayer of getting a card. McKinstry 3/1 and Whitehead 4/1 also big based on Lakeside form. They also have the advantage of being match sharp. Most of the others won’t have thrown a competitive dart for weeks. You have to make big scoring waites a bet at 2/1 as well then? Only his doubles really let him down at the bdo over the week. He could have bundles of shots at doubles against these lads. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 16, 2019, 09:19:54 PM He’s the son of Diamond Dave. I did wonder if he was! Diamond dave askew. What a blast from the past Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 16, 2019, 09:23:22 PM They are both massive Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general Durrant should be 1/4 tops? I’d be a backer at 1/4. I make him a 1/6 shot. Unless he has forgotten to play darts since the weekend he will cruise through on the bridle. Was back in work Monday morning so not like he has been out on the piss since winning. Look at how MVG eats up the Pro Tour events and the variance in ability level there is a lot shallower than at Q school. At least half of the field don’t have a prayer of getting a card. McKinstry 3/1 and Whitehead 4/1 also big based on Lakeside form. They also have the advantage of being match sharp. Most of the others won’t have thrown a competitive dart for weeks. You have to make big scoring waites a bet at 2/1 as well then? Only his doubles really let him down at the bdo over the week. He could have bundles of shots at doubles against these lads. Yeah Waites is good too, all of the BDO boys are value with the possible exception of a McGeeney but the fact it’s not on stage is a positive for him. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 16, 2019, 09:41:17 PM They are both massive Was very impressed with the bdo standard in general Durrant should be 1/4 tops? I’d be a backer at 1/4. I make him a 1/6 shot. Unless he has forgotten to play darts since the weekend he will cruise through on the bridle. Was back in work Monday morning so not like he has been out on the piss since winning. Look at how MVG eats up the Pro Tour events and the variance in ability level there is a lot shallower than at Q school. At least half of the field don’t have a prayer of getting a card. McKinstry 3/1 and Whitehead 4/1 also big based on Lakeside form. They also have the advantage of being match sharp. Most of the others won’t have thrown a competitive dart for weeks. You have to make big scoring waites a bet at 2/1 as well then? Only his doubles really let him down at the bdo over the week. He could have bundles of shots at doubles against these lads. Yeah Waites is good too, all of the BDO boys are value with the possible exception of a McGeeney but the fact it’s not on stage is a positive for him. The 'fitness' edge for the bdo boys going deeep last week must be massivel With Duzza as well if he doesn't get a card there is the outside chance Bazza gifts him one after q school. Skybet's wording is a tour card not to win one at q school so you could be weighed in two ways. No way bazza won't want duzza there next year being first 3 time bdo back to back to back winner since Bristow. Two ways to win. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 16, 2019, 10:20:05 PM There’s also no pressure on them this year with BDO changing their rules meaning that if they don’t get a card they can still play the bdO Tour and make Lakeside. That must be a huge positive mentally knowing that it’s effectively a freeroll, rather than having the pressure of having to win a card or being left in limbo and having to make do with the Challenge Tour and Euro Tour qualifiers.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 17, 2019, 11:25:03 AM 39 average the lowest of the day so far.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 17, 2019, 12:00:24 PM Hills did price it up briefly after my request but I missed it
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 17, 2019, 12:24:17 PM Two 5-0 wins for Durrant to kick off.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on January 17, 2019, 01:05:01 PM Where are you following?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 17, 2019, 01:24:32 PM https://tv.dartconnect.com/matchlist/pdcukqs19e1
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 17, 2019, 01:50:51 PM Stuart Kellett beaten with a near 95 average will sting
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 17, 2019, 02:01:17 PM Durrant into a decider with Herewini at 4-4
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 17, 2019, 02:04:54 PM loses 5-4`
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 17, 2019, 02:51:34 PM Yeah chucked in a poor one against a guy that was competent and didn’t get away with it.
McGeeney absolutely flying with 105 and 107 averages so far. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 17, 2019, 05:18:49 PM Jamie Hughes banging in 3 consecutive 108+ averages to make the last 4. McGeeney there as well but in the other half. Both deserve cards given how they have played today.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 17, 2019, 05:34:12 PM Hughes looks like he is on fire
https://leaderboard.dartconnect.com/leaderboard#T-pdcukqs19e1-singles_01_501_si_do-all-all-all-all-all Is useful if anyone doesnt have it Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Skippy on January 17, 2019, 05:54:39 PM This Q School tournament is such a lottery.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 17, 2019, 06:13:58 PM Hughes looks like he is on fire https://leaderboard.dartconnect.com/leaderboard#T-pdcukqs19e1-singles_01_501_si_do-all-all-all-all-all Is useful if anyone doesnt have it He was different class. Ward played superb stuff in his decider as well. McGeeney a virtual lock for a card from here as well The rest of the BDO boys have work to do. Williams and Waites made very hard work of it and Duzza made a mess of a dream draw Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 17, 2019, 07:07:54 PM Waites and Williams look like they struggled bigtime
Fancy Durrant still gets through , interesting if they re price up this evening Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on January 18, 2019, 04:50:52 PM The 3 time world champ ain’t doing too good
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 18, 2019, 05:15:27 PM Durrant had an open goal today. Literally couldn’t have hand picked a better draw. Lauby made if through from his quarter averaging 83 for the day.
Williams really should have beaten Baker but couldn’t finish. He’s still in decent shape though to get a card. McGeeney has cruised through. Some farce if all the BDO boys get a card apart from Durrant. He will be going off 1/3 for Lakeside next year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 18, 2019, 08:20:34 PM The usual nonsensical stuff on twitter "bdo is rubbish" merchants
Completely missing the point that most have done very well this week https://www.live-darts.com/category/darts-news/pdc-qualifying-school-2019-day-two-round-up-20190118/ "The setup here is worlds apart from what I'm used to and I surprised myself a bit with how well I played. Now I can't wait to get started on the ProTour." Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 19, 2019, 07:39:25 AM Durrant drinking in the last chance saloon today. He’s not playing Sunday as he’s playing an exhibition in Holland.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 19, 2019, 05:28:58 PM Durrant falls at the final hurdle. Surely he plays tomorrow given he probably only needs another 2 points to get a card.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 19, 2019, 06:26:31 PM he must do?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on January 19, 2019, 06:47:31 PM Durrant falls at the final hurdle. Surely he plays tomorrow given he probably only needs another 2 points to get a card. https://twitter.com/Duzza180/status/1086685089797414913 (https://twitter.com/Duzza180/status/1086685089797414913) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 19, 2019, 07:47:57 PM Last 32 definitely gets him in, last 64 probably enough given he’s top of the list of those on 8 points due to legs won so providing he avoids a drubbing in last 64 he will be good I think. Williams will almost certainly need last 32. He choked badly today against Boulton in the first round.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on January 20, 2019, 12:11:23 PM Williams gone beaten by Colin Osbourne with a 77 average
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Skippy on January 20, 2019, 01:27:03 PM Durrant wins 3 legs on the bounce and survives a match dart to win 5-4 against a guy who finds a 95 average from nowhere.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 20, 2019, 01:27:22 PM Durrant survives 3 match darts against an inspired Matthew Dennant averaging 100+. He then bangs in and 11 darter to break and then holds for 5-4 win. One more win should do it.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on January 20, 2019, 01:36:53 PM Durrant beat some guy 5-4
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 20, 2019, 02:17:52 PM Durrant through to last 32 5-0 with a 104 average. That should be enough. Suspect he goes on to win a card outright on the bridle now that the pressure is off.
Waites was a shambles all week. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 20, 2019, 04:37:54 PM Painter on a last day charge to save his career. One more win and he has a card.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 20, 2019, 04:45:02 PM Some sweat for Barrie Bates. He needs Murnan pen shepherd to win the final and backdoors a card on the oom. Menzies sweating the shepherd and Murnan double to get a card
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 21, 2019, 05:24:24 AM Duzza....
How you reckon he'll do yr 1 pdc? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 21, 2019, 09:22:43 AM not as well as people think for me. He is fully exposed age wise and is going to have a big adjustment lifestyle/work wise plus a boat load of pressure. I don't see him ultimately being much better than bunting tbh. High teens/low 20s ranking once he settles down. Happy to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 21, 2019, 09:33:18 AM he said he's gonna quit work after he gets his card btw.
Still. He's gonna need to grind the tour where there's 40 players who could average 100+ against you which he's not used too, if he doesn't put some floor results together he's only got the grand slam, if he doesn;t settle down like arb says could easily struggle to make any presence at the majors and with the wealth of talent from 60-20 in th rankings you need majors runs to jump up quickly. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 21, 2019, 09:39:13 AM he said he's gonna quit work after he gets his card btw. Still. He's gonna need to grind the tour where there's 40 players who could average 100+ against you which he's not used too, if he doesn't put some floor results together he's only got the grand slam, if he doesn;t settle down like arb says could easily struggle to make any presence at the majors and with the wealth of talent from 60-20 in th rankings you need majors runs to jump up quickly. I think the job/darts jump to just darts will be a bigger issue for him at his age than most guys going pro earlier in life. I assume he is on a big chunk wages wise (no idea what he does job wise) to have waited this long to jump. I hope he does well but like Dave said its tough to even get into the tv majors in your first years never mind being unseeded when you do and run into MVG/ando in the first round a couple of times. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 21, 2019, 02:13:49 PM He’s an estate manager for a housing association (previously local authority) and been with them for 30 years. I agree it will be a big jump for him as he has often stated he enjoys his job. It’s oretty late in life as well for him to make the jump. That said he is clearly talented and if he adapts he could do well. I think ability wise he’s a top 10 player, but turning that in to actual rankings when starting from the bottom is tough.
The first challenge for him is to get some £ on the Pro Tour and qualify for Euro Tour events. A decent run at the UK Open where he could benefit from the open draw Would help. He then has to make sure he qualifies for the Euros, Players, Worlds. Anything on top of that would be a bonus. In the first year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 22, 2019, 04:13:02 AM RANKINGS!!!
The aftermath of the worlds has shaken a few things up, as to be expected with the prize money. MVG gonna be 1 happppppy man after a year in the majors that was kind of horrible by his standards, 2 early round bust outs, a final loss (which never happens) and the highlight was a very unconvincing win at the GP. His #1 spot was slowly coming under a little threat and people were sayin perhaps he ain't the best in the world citing his fairly poor performance lifetime at ally pally. Now his #1 spot is firmly reestablished he could take 1 yr off and likely hold onto it, he's picked up his 3rd PDC WC putting him ahead of Gary and Lewis, and 500 big ones. 1 Michael van Gerwen Netherlands £1,603,500 2 Rob Cross England £785,750 3 Peter Wright Scotland £677,500 4 Gary Anderson Scotland £580,000 5 Daryl Gurney Northern Ireland £539,250 6 Michael Smith England £505,500 7 Gerwyn Price Wales £404,750 8 Mensur Suljovic Austria £389,750 9 Simon Whitlock Australia £350,750 10 James Wade England £341,00 Last year during this write up I said the top 4 wasn't gonna move much, just the inevitable swap of Cross and Wright at 2 and 3 which took a lot longer than it should have done. This year however those top 2/3/4 spots are under some fire, first guy under some serious pressure is Rob Cross, after a whirlwind yr 1 cashing for over £600k and a underwhelming yr 2 cashing for only ~£170k he's got a lot of money to defend this year and a year that doesn't involve some major success or a massive worlds is gonna see Voltage really struggle to hold on to a top 6 spot and I think he's likely gonna be more concerned by world #11 then world #5 come Xmas. Huge year for Rob Cross. Next up in even more trouble in Peter Wright - he had a standout year in 2017 cashing for £465k and the form he ended 2018 in was far from that of a top 4 player, his constant darts flickering just a sign of a really weak mindset and his hubris in interviews just stinks of a man who doesn't really believe he's a top 8 player, if he doesn't find form he's due a big rankings slip, unfortunately for him too his big runs all came at the start of the year, with about £200k to defend before the matchplay, he could find himself out of the top 10 by the worlds. His schedule is always very heavy too, he's closing in on 50 now I doubt he can keep this work load up and he's going to need to if he's going to sustain his top 10 spot. He's in trouble Snakebite. Gary at the start of 2018 was precariously placed in #4, Gurney and Mensur were hunting him down and he had a decent chunk of prize money to defend, we know his schedule is light so he basically just backs himself to have a big yr in the majors which he more than did last year. Now things are a bit different for Gary, MVG in #1 is clearly un touchable but he's £205k behind Cross with £480k less to defend, £100k behind Wright with £330k less to defend and £40k ahead of Gurney in #5 with £160k less to defend. If Gary can reproduce any sort of semblance to last years results should be getting himself to #2 pretty easily, and seems almost gtd to be at least #3 by the worlds, which means once again he'll be avoiding MVG in the semis. Worries for Gary is always the same though, his back seems to be a niggle that will always come back at some point, and he certainly feasted from a lacklustre MVG year in the majors which is unlikely to happen again. I think when the day comes that Gary drops down the top 16, he's unlikely to make it back and he'll probs just retire, however right now Gary only looking UP at the rankings and that isn't changing for at least 12 months :P. He does however, have himself 1 potential party-pooper, in the form of his protege Bully Boy, his great world champs puts him £75k off his mentor with £30k more to defend, Smith will benefit from the confidence of last year, the fact he'll play a lot more tour events and most of the euros, given Cross and Wright are both fighting the slip and gurney has almost double to defend, Bully looking a great shout for a top 4 spot, and world #2 by the time the worlds come along isn't a pipe dream. He's a confidence guy though, Bazza said to me last yr when he came back from 5-1 to beat Gary 7-5 on night #1 of the prem league after that win he fancies smith for a big year, if he can start well could be the start of Smith's long awaited delivery on the obvious talent. Needs a major win, for all kinds of reasons. Mesnur and Price round out the top 8 with similar amounts to defend (£189k/£160k) rankings in similar kinds of form, good overall but seem liable to lose any game, will both play similar schedule and only £15k apart and both over £100k off 6th they need to capitalise of a Gurney/Wright/Cross slip should any of those happen. They both getting chased by #9 and #10 in form of Whitlock and Wade, Whitlock who's consistency vs lower ranked players is effectively what holds his rankings together, he just can't seem ever to put consistent results together (or even perofrmances) vs guys ahead of him in the rankings and has fairly torrid H2H to vs everyone in the top 6. He's defending ~£200k and £50k of Price in #7 so needs to start putting some results vs the big guys or world #12-8 is where he'll stay. Biggest risk to the top 8 currently is James Wade, a terrible 2017 means he has just £90k to defend and he showed some real return to form towards the end of last year. A sub-par worlds really but if he keeps it going like he did back end of 2018, think we could easily see a Machine back in the top 8 or even the top 6, he's not scared to win either! Out of the rest of the top 16, we got a few interesting guys, first up is Adrian Lewis, again a torrid 2017 means he only has £96k to defend and he was showing some return to form, on his day he can pretty much beat anyone and you'd never be too surprised if you saw him win something and put a £300k+year together, big questions around Jackpot are work ethic and focus, if he can really knuckle down and grind the pro/euro tour then I'm backing Jackpot back into the top 10 by end of the year :). Joe Cullen is dangerously becoming a bottle-job, he seems to realise that he needs a win on the sage and looks like crumbling at every sniff of a good opportunity, he undeniably has the game and looks to work quite hard but last year several draws opened up wide for him and he couldn't make good on any of them, he's defending only £113k and will play a full schedule and has a good starting rank on the pro tour. We should see him continue to make small climb inside the top 16 ut unless he can transfer all this to a stage result he's not gonna get anywhere near the top 10. Webster, White, Chizzy and Clayton all defending pretty modest amounts and all of them very capable of going on runs of results... Ian White I think, after backing him for majors all over the shop, we maybe just need to conclude is not really cut out for long format matches...I was wondering if it's just a bottle thing but I am starting to just conclude that he isn't able to consistently produce in long formats, hence why he's one of the best performers year on year in the pro tour events and never done anything in a major, except early rounds. Johnny Clayton currently in the undesirable #16 spot which means early round meetings with MVG, but his form in the back end of 2018 should be encouraging, you never know what's gonna come from Chizzy these days. The top 32 is where I think we see the big shift coming this year, 17-32 is full to the brim with journeymen, and 33-50 is packed with hungry young kids chomping to get in the top 32, guys like Merv King, Big Hendo, Bunting, Beaton, West, Huybrechts, K.Anderson. Some will find some form and have a push at top 16, some will fall back and drift out of the top 32. One really interesting guy is Alan Norris, currently #24 and a wayward year last yr, we discovered at the worlds his wife had terminal illness and he effectively took the year off, he's always been a fairly inconsistent guy Chuck but he's a very gritty performer and LOVES the big stage, as we saw at the worlds, if he comes back in with a fresh head I could easily see him re-challenging the top 16, however given the horrific personal things he has been through that's a big ask for him, plus he has £142k to defend this year and the pack behind him are defending a LOT less and charging, regrettably this is likely the end for Chuck but always thought he was a decent bloke and he's enjoyable to watch. The back end of the top 32 has a few more guys on the brink of peril, the dutch trio of Klaasen, Van de Pas and Barney, Benito picked up a very handy 50 grand at the worlds, Klaasen looks a complete shadow after wrist injury and Barney, well, Barney.... Barney is a living example of important (and great for the game) the pro tour is, because it's a 1 yr rolling rankings based on tournaments that anyone can get into, and this ranking system forms the seedings for the floor event plus gets you in the grand prix and the matchplay, gives players making waves in the bread and butter tournaments prominence, guys like White, Cullen, King etc sustain their rankings through the pro tour despite consistently poor major performances and guys like Aspinal, Payne, Wilson etc can qualify for majors based on good performances there. Barney, with a reputation in darts matched by almost no-one has under-performed in the majors for two yrs and not bothered with the pro tour, and as a result slipped way to to world #28 and currently looking very unlikely to qualify for a lot of the majors. This is how guys like Duzza, Mcgeeny etc are going to have to start to build their PDC rankings and it's a huge, huge grind, Duzza used to being the big dog at 8 tournaments a year where 80% of the field cant really touch him on his B game, he's going to have to go to play 2x tournaments a weekend at a sports hall in wigan in front of 9 people, with 127 other players 60 of whom could average 100 against him on any given match. HE could really really struggle and might find at his age a confidence draining year of being beat round 2 by world #83 and getting £500 could be the end of him. He needs to get himself into the top 16 on the Pro Tour OOM within the first year (do-able) and then will get himself automatically into the Euros and get himself a easy path into a lot of the majors. Unenviable task for anyone trying to power through the PDC rankings, the wall blocking the top 32 is pretty severe, right outside it you have; 33 Dimitri van den Bergh Belgium £133,250 34 Chris Dobey England £133,000 35 Nathan Aspinall England £133,000 3 guys who really need to push on and get themselves in there, again strong pro tour performances is how it's done, these guys should be at every euro tour really, if Dimitri has another year like 2018 on the floor he is only going to go backwards and once again we won't see one of darts most exciting stars in the matchplay, the grand prix, the euro champs, and he got no where near in 2018. Behind them you got guys like Lennon, North, de Zwaan, O'Connor, Noppert, Schindler, Evans, Meulenkamp, Ratajski, Payne, Humprhies.... This is a pretty serious wall of talent to break through and this is just the top 60. There's a ton of money in the PDC but they certainly don't give it away... Guys to look out for in 2019.... James Wade & Adrian Lewis - Touched on it earlier, they are defending little and playing decent, I'd back them both to be top 10 come Xmas. Max Hopp - Had a good 2018, he's got himself nice ranking on the pro tour (although £25k to come off from his euro tour win) he plays great on stage, very happy on the euro tours with the crowd, much improved player and I think this will be the yer we see him push towards to top 16. Nathan Aspinall - Seems an obv pick after the worlds, but was impressed with him all year last year and his run at the WC showed some proper, proper class took a 105 average from one of the worlds best players to finally can him, he didn't have the toughest of runs but he really produced in the Dolan game and fired back from a precarious looking spot vs Devon Peterson, showed a lot of hear, a lot of bottle and without much to defend plus a good record on the pro tour last year (1 victory) can see him pushing in the top 32 and showing up a few majors and you defo don't wanna draw him if he shows anything like the form from Ally Pally. Jeffrey de Zwaan - another obv one given he's one of hottest guys in darts, but he's got a whole yr with close to 0 to defend and was UL not to progress at the worlds, he's shown he can win on the floor so we should see him in some euro tour events and he has a cluster of guys on the way out around him (Pipe, Thornton etc) Danny Noppert - Again, 0 money to defend and showed last year he's clearly got the game for a top 16 challenge, looks super solid and plenty of bottle, only concerns would be in consistency but could easily be attributed to first yr wobbles, if he settles down and keeps up last years performances I could see him in the top 32 v soon. Krystof Ratajski - Finally has a tour card, will be in all the pro tours, plays a big schedule, great record on the euro tour, has winning mentality and looking more and more comfortable on the big stage. Luke Humprhies - Was impressive all year on the ET, throwing 100 averages and bags of 180s, worlds will have given him a huge amount of confidence, needs to bring his game more consistently and learn to play on the floor and we'll be seeing him challenge top 16 in a few years. Guys to be worried for; Rob Cross and Peter Wright - As we said, they need to work hard to stay in the top 8. Mervyn King - After years as a top 22 journeyman, things are looking rough for Merv, back injuries, cant play in long formats and the quality of the guys coming behind him makes me strongly feel like its the start of a downwards spiral for The King. Dimitri Van Den Bergh & Jamie Lewis - Despite being touted as potential super stars they have both failed to deliver in 2018, they played vs each other in rnd 1 of the WSOD finals and was 106 vs 102 av and one of the best BO11 games you'll see, but they just cannot produce on the floor and the pack chasing them are serious, both barely qualified for the players last year which is a 64 player tournament, Dimitri is lucky he gets another Grand Slam entry but last year they barely played a ET between them, if they don't step up then they will just float down the rankings and fade away, along with the WSOD invitations. Benito Van de Pas - Looked in all sorts of trouble at the worlds, cannot compete in any PDC events playing as he does and now he's reached the end of his rankings safety net I fear this might be the last year we see much of BVDP. Barney - If offered even money i'd back against him being at the Grand Prix, or the Matchplay, no idea if he'll get to play the World Cup with MVG which is his usual route into the Grand Slam, nothing to suggest he'll make the players or the euros, real chance his swansong year wont even end at Ally Pally. Barney's ONLY real chance is to grind the ET qualifiers and try make something happen there, in europe, on stage those events are barney's best hope of quick rankings points. Hopefully for Barney his UK open quals will get him in the players but if not he really needs to grind some floor events, you know he'll focus on the WSOD and PL too as thats his only gtd platform to say goodbye to his fans. I fear a sad end for an all-time great, although I'd love to see him go out with a bang and the whole sport kinda wants it too. Always so much fun watching the rankings tussle, and the battles go all the way to the top 50, everyone fighting their own wars, cant wait for the euro tours to start again!!!! Masters next up. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 22, 2019, 09:09:01 AM Not a bad post for a bloke lacking in the finger department. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 22, 2019, 09:36:36 AM Of the 28 who got Tour Cards at 2017 Q School only 5 made it in to the top 64 to retain their cards (Schindler, Alcinas, Lennon, North and Mansell). Another 3 went back to Q School and regained their cards (Razma, Shepherd, Bain). It’s tough to make inroads. Those who have picked up their cards need to put two solid years together. The likes of Nicholson had a Euro Tour semi to his name this year but wasn’t consistent enough on the tour and ran terribly at the Worlds to lose his card.
There hare some interesting additions this year though. Durrant obviously one of them and he should be aiming to break in to the top 40 by the start of the Worlds. McGeeney is someone who has good floor form and he breezed through Q school banging in 100+ averages. That sort of form should stand him in good stead. At 3-0 down to Durrant Baker hadn’t really shown anything to suggest he would make an impact in the PDC but he seemed to flick a switch and gave Durrant a scare before winning a tour card on the bridle again putting in 100+ averages. Hughes went to Q school last year and bombed and then had a year on the Challenge tour before carving up day 1 this year with a 98 average over the day, Pro Tours have been won with lower averages than that. His biggest problem is his B game often tends to be an 85 average, if he can sort that out he can make some inroads. Harry Ward hadn’t shown all that much to get excited about but he flew through Day 1 but that could just have been a good day. I think the rest of them will find it tough. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on January 22, 2019, 09:45:21 AM Not a bad post for a bloke lacking in the finger department. rotflmfao rotflmfao Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 22, 2019, 10:40:54 AM RANKINGS!!! The aftermath of the worlds has shaken a few things up, as to be expected with the prize money. MVG gonna be 1 happppppy man after a year in the majors that was kind of horrible by his standards, 2 early round bust outs, a final loss (which never happens) and the highlight was a very unconvincing win at the GP. His #1 spot was slowly coming under a little threat and people were sayin perhaps he ain't the best in the world citing his fairly poor performance lifetime at ally pally. Now his #1 spot is firmly reestablished he could take 1 yr off and likely hold onto it, he's picked up his 3rd PDC WC putting him ahead of Gary and Lewis, and 500 big ones. 1 Michael van Gerwen Netherlands £1,603,500 2 Rob Cross England £785,750 3 Peter Wright Scotland £677,500 4 Gary Anderson Scotland £580,000 5 Daryl Gurney Northern Ireland £539,250 6 Michael Smith England £505,500 7 Gerwyn Price Wales £404,750 8 Mensur Suljovic Austria £389,750 9 Simon Whitlock Australia £350,750 10 James Wade England £341,00 Last year during this write up I said the top 4 wasn't gonna move much, just the inevitable swap of Cross and Wright at 2 and 3 which took a lot longer than it should have done. This year however those top 2/3/4 spots are under some fire, first guy under some serious pressure is Rob Cross, after a whirlwind yr 1 cashing for over £600k and a underwhelming yr 2 cashing for only ~£170k he's got a lot of money to defend this year and a year that doesn't involve some major success or a massive worlds is gonna see Voltage really struggle to hold on to a top 6 spot and I think he's likely gonna be more concerned by world #11 then world #5 come Xmas. Huge year for Rob Cross. Next up in even more trouble in Peter Wright - he had a standout year in 2017 cashing for £465k and the form he ended 2018 in was far from that of a top 4 player, his constant darts flickering just a sign of a really weak mindset and his hubris in interviews just stinks of a man who doesn't really believe he's a top 8 player, if he doesn't find form he's due a big rankings slip, unfortunately for him too his big runs all came at the start of the year, with about £200k to defend before the matchplay, he could find himself out of the top 10 by the worlds. His schedule is always very heavy too, he's closing in on 50 now I doubt he can keep this work load up and he's going to need to if he's going to sustain his top 10 spot. He's in trouble Snakebite. Gary at the start of 2018 was precariously placed in #4, Gurney and Mensur were hunting him down and he had a decent chunk of prize money to defend, we know his schedule is light so he basically just backs himself to have a big yr in the majors which he more than did last year. Now things are a bit different for Gary, MVG in #1 is clearly un touchable but he's £205k behind Cross with £480k less to defend, £100k behind Wright with £330k less to defend and £40k ahead of Gurney in #5 with £160k less to defend. If Gary can reproduce any sort of semblance to last years results should be getting himself to #2 pretty easily, and seems almost gtd to be at least #3 by the worlds, which means once again he'll be avoiding MVG in the semis. Worries for Gary is always the same though, his back seems to be a niggle that will always come back at some point, and he certainly feasted from a lacklustre MVG year in the majors which is unlikely to happen again. I think when the day comes that Gary drops down the top 16, he's unlikely to make it back and he'll probs just retire, however right now Gary only looking UP at the rankings and that isn't changing for at least 12 months :P. He does however, have himself 1 potential party-pooper, in the form of his protege Bully Boy, his great world champs puts him £75k off his mentor with £30k more to defend, Smith will benefit from the confidence of last year, the fact he'll play a lot more tour events and most of the euros, given Cross and Wright are both fighting the slip and gurney has almost double to defend, Bully looking a great shout for a top 4 spot, and world #2 by the time the worlds come along isn't a pipe dream. He's a confidence guy though, Bazza said to me last yr when he came back from 5-1 to beat Gary 7-5 on night #1 of the prem league after that win he fancies smith for a big year, if he can start well could be the start of Smith's long awaited delivery on the obvious talent. Needs a major win, for all kinds of reasons. Mesnur and Price round out the top 8 with similar amounts to defend (£189k/£160k) rankings in similar kinds of form, good overall but seem liable to lose any game, will both play similar schedule and only £15k apart and both over £100k off 6th they need to capitalise of a Gurney/Wright/Cross slip should any of those happen. They both getting chased by #9 and #10 in form of Whitlock and Wade, Whitlock who's consistency vs lower ranked players is effectively what holds his rankings together, he just can't seem ever to put consistent results together (or even perofrmances) vs guys ahead of him in the rankings and has fairly torrid H2H to vs everyone in the top 6. He's defending ~£200k and £50k of Price in #7 so needs to start putting some results vs the big guys or world #12-8 is where he'll stay. Biggest risk to the top 8 currently is James Wade, a terrible 2017 means he has just £90k to defend and he showed some real return to form towards the end of last year. A sub-par worlds really but if he keeps it going like he did back end of 2018, think we could easily see a Machine back in the top 8 or even the top 6, he's not scared to win either! Out of the rest of the top 16, we got a few interesting guys, first up is Adrian Lewis, again a torrid 2017 means he only has £96k to defend and he was showing some return to form, on his day he can pretty much beat anyone and you'd never be too surprised if you saw him win something and put a £300k+year together, big questions around Jackpot are work ethic and focus, if he can really knuckle down and grind the pro/euro tour then I'm backing Jackpot back into the top 10 by end of the year :). Joe Cullen is dangerously becoming a bottle-job, he seems to realise that he needs a win on the sage and looks like crumbling at every sniff of a good opportunity, he undeniably has the game and looks to work quite hard but last year several draws opened up wide for him and he couldn't make good on any of them, he's defending only £113k and will play a full schedule and has a good starting rank on the pro tour. We should see him continue to make small climb inside the top 16 ut unless he can transfer all this to a stage result he's not gonna get anywhere near the top 10. Webster, White, Chizzy and Clayton all defending pretty modest amounts and all of them very capable of going on runs of results... Ian White I think, after backing him for majors all over the shop, we maybe just need to conclude is not really cut out for long format matches...I was wondering if it's just a bottle thing but I am starting to just conclude that he isn't able to consistently produce in long formats, hence why he's one of the best performers year on year in the pro tour events and never done anything in a major, except early rounds. Johnny Clayton currently in the undesirable #16 spot which means early round meetings with MVG, but his form in the back end of 2018 should be encouraging, you never know what's gonna come from Chizzy these days. The top 32 is where I think we see the big shift coming this year, 17-32 is full to the brim with journeymen, and 33-50 is packed with hungry young kids chomping to get in the top 32, guys like Merv King, Big Hendo, Bunting, Beaton, West, Huybrechts, K.Anderson. Some will find some form and have a push at top 16, some will fall back and drift out of the top 32. One really interesting guy is Alan Norris, currently #24 and a wayward year last yr, we discovered at the worlds his wife had terminal illness and he effectively took the year off, he's always been a fairly inconsistent guy Chuck but he's a very gritty performer and LOVES the big stage, as we saw at the worlds, if he comes back in with a fresh head I could easily see him re-challenging the top 16, however given the horrific personal things he has been through that's a big ask for him, plus he has £142k to defend this year and the pack behind him are defending a LOT less and charging, regrettably this is likely the end for Chuck but always thought he was a decent bloke and he's enjoyable to watch. The back end of the top 32 has a few more guys on the brink of peril, the dutch trio of Klaasen, Van de Pas and Barney, Benito picked up a very handy 50 grand at the worlds, Klaasen looks a complete shadow after wrist injury and Barney, well, Barney.... Barney is a living example of important (and great for the game) the pro tour is, because it's a 1 yr rolling rankings based on tournaments that anyone can get into, and this ranking system forms the seedings for the floor event plus gets you in the grand prix and the matchplay, gives players making waves in the bread and butter tournaments prominence, guys like White, Cullen, King etc sustain their rankings through the pro tour despite consistently poor major performances and guys like Aspinal, Payne, Wilson etc can qualify for majors based on good performances there. Barney, with a reputation in darts matched by almost no-one has under-performed in the majors for two yrs and not bothered with the pro tour, and as a result slipped way to to world #28 and currently looking very unlikely to qualify for a lot of the majors. This is how guys like Duzza, Mcgeeny etc are going to have to start to build their PDC rankings and it's a huge, huge grind, Duzza used to being the big dog at 8 tournaments a year where 80% of the field cant really touch him on his B game, he's going to have to go to play 2x tournaments a weekend at a sports hall in wigan in front of 9 people, with 127 other players 60 of whom could average 100 against him on any given match. HE could really really struggle and might find at his age a confidence draining year of being beat round 2 by world #83 and getting £500 could be the end of him. He needs to get himself into the top 16 on the Pro Tour OOM within the first year (do-able) and then will get himself automatically into the Euros and get himself a easy path into a lot of the majors. Unenviable task for anyone trying to power through the PDC rankings, the wall blocking the top 32 is pretty severe, right outside it you have; 33 Dimitri van den Bergh Belgium £133,250 34 Chris Dobey England £133,000 35 Nathan Aspinall England £133,000 3 guys who really need to push on and get themselves in there, again strong pro tour performances is how it's done, these guys should be at every euro tour really, if Dimitri has another year like 2018 on the floor he is only going to go backwards and once again we won't see one of darts most exciting stars in the matchplay, the grand prix, the euro champs, and he got no where near in 2018. Behind them you got guys like Lennon, North, de Zwaan, O'Connor, Noppert, Schindler, Evans, Meulenkamp, Ratajski, Payne, Humprhies.... This is a pretty serious wall of talent to break through and this is just the top 60. There's a ton of money in the PDC but they certainly don't give it away... Guys to look out for in 2019.... James Wade & Adrian Lewis - Touched on it earlier, they are defending little and playing decent, I'd back them both to be top 10 come Xmas. Max Hopp - Had a good 2018, he's got himself nice ranking on the pro tour (although £25k to come off from his euro tour win) he plays great on stage, very happy on the euro tours with the crowd, much improved player and I think this will be the yer we see him push towards to top 16. Nathan Aspinall - Seems an obv pick after the worlds, but was impressed with him all year last year and his run at the WC showed some proper, proper class took a 105 average from one of the worlds best players to finally can him, he didn't have the toughest of runs but he really produced in the Dolan game and fired back from a precarious looking spot vs Devon Peterson, showed a lot of hear, a lot of bottle and without much to defend plus a good record on the pro tour last year (1 victory) can see him pushing in the top 32 and showing up a few majors and you defo don't wanna draw him if he shows anything like the form from Ally Pally. Jeffrey de Zwaan - another obv one given he's one of hottest guys in darts, but he's got a whole yr with close to 0 to defend and was UL not to progress at the worlds, he's shown he can win on the floor so we should see him in some euro tour events and he has a cluster of guys on the way out around him (Pipe, Thornton etc) Danny Noppert - Again, 0 money to defend and showed last year he's clearly got the game for a top 16 challenge, looks super solid and plenty of bottle, only concerns would be in consistency but could easily be attributed to first yr wobbles, if he settles down and keeps up last years performances I could see him in the top 32 v soon. Krystof Ratajski - Finally has a tour card, will be in all the pro tours, plays a big schedule, great record on the euro tour, has winning mentality and looking more and more comfortable on the big stage. Luke Humprhies - Was impressive all year on the ET, throwing 100 averages and bags of 180s, worlds will have given him a huge amount of confidence, needs to bring his game more consistently and learn to play on the floor and we'll be seeing him challenge top 16 in a few years. Guys to be worried for; Rob Cross and Peter Wright - As we said, they need to work hard to stay in the top 8. Mervyn King - After years as a top 22 journeyman, things are looking rough for Merv, back injuries, cant play in long formats and the quality of the guys coming behind him makes me strongly feel like its the start of a downwards spiral for The King. Dimitri Van Den Bergh & Jamie Lewis - Despite being touted as potential super stars they have both failed to deliver in 2018, they played vs each other in rnd 1 of the WSOD finals and was 106 vs 102 av and one of the best BO11 games you'll see, but they just cannot produce on the floor and the pack chasing them are serious, both barely qualified for the players last year which is a 64 player tournament, Dimitri is lucky he gets another Grand Slam entry but last year they barely played a ET between them, if they don't step up then they will just float down the rankings and fade away, along with the WSOD invitations. Benito Van de Pas - Looked in all sorts of trouble at the worlds, cannot compete in any PDC events playing as he does and now he's reached the end of his rankings safety net I fear this might be the last year we see much of BVDP. Barney - If offered even money i'd back against him being at the Grand Prix, or the Matchplay, no idea if he'll get to play the World Cup with MVG which is his usual route into the Grand Slam, nothing to suggest he'll make the players or the euros, real chance his swansong year wont even end at Ally Pally. Barney's ONLY real chance is to grind the ET qualifiers and try make something happen there, in europe, on stage those events are barney's best hope of quick rankings points. Hopefully for Barney his UK open quals will get him in the players but if not he really needs to grind some floor events, you know he'll focus on the WSOD and PL too as thats his only gtd platform to say goodbye to his fans. I fear a sad end for an all-time great, although I'd love to see him go out with a bang and the whole sport kinda wants it too. Always so much fun watching the rankings tussle, and the battles go all the way to the top 50, everyone fighting their own wars, cant wait for the euro tours to start again!!!! Masters next up. Really enjoyed reading this with my coffee this morning. Made me go straight to oddschecker, lol. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 22, 2019, 01:57:05 PM Different class write up as ever Dave. Always appreciate your scripts on the tungsten.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: nuros on January 22, 2019, 02:11:07 PM Yeah nice one Dave, thought you were meant to be on holiday? :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 23, 2019, 03:49:09 PM darts is my holiday :)
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 23, 2019, 06:10:29 PM £21.5k fine plus a 3 month suspended ban for Price. Seems very harsh to me.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 23, 2019, 06:14:51 PM What did ando get for pushing him? Does seem harsh.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 24, 2019, 01:21:42 AM Dont like Price but agree seems harsh.
Looking forward to Gary vs Price inthe PL though!!! As much as I do dislike him, I am glad he's about as I love a bit of needle in sport and darts in particular given how personal it is I think it's great, find myself really excited for a game I'd likely not care about if not for the shenanigans. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 24, 2019, 07:01:13 AM What did ando get for pushing him? Does seem harsh. Formal warning. Price’s previous indiscretions played a part in the punishment. For me what Wade did against Asada was a lot worse so it will be interesting to see what sort of fine he gets hit with. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Longines on January 24, 2019, 10:10:18 AM £21.5k fine plus a 3 month suspended ban for Price. Seems very harsh to me. £12k for the final, £8k for the quarter-final and £1500 for comments on social media. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on January 25, 2019, 10:37:30 AM Not a bad post for a bloke lacking in the finger department. im.a quality not quantity man on the finger front :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 26, 2019, 05:55:35 PM Scott waites has gone from losing the Lakeside final to losing in last 512 of a Challenge Tour event in the space of a fortnight.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 30, 2019, 03:33:41 PM It looks like Anderson’s back issues are really starting to take their toll. He’s pulled out of this weekends Masters. Is a doubt for the PL, I suspect he will play in that as it’s more lucrative but at what sort of level remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Longines on January 30, 2019, 03:54:50 PM It looks like Anderson’s back issues are really starting to take their toll. He’s pulled out of this weekends Masters. Is a doubt for the PL, I suspect he will play in that as it’s more lucrative but at what sort of level remains to be seen. Are you allowed a runner in darts like cricket? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2019, 05:18:54 PM Don't think its a huge price he retires this year. Think he has made enough money to retire now and won everything in the game he would have wanted to win. He doesn't love darts as a sport, happy to take loads of time off with family away from practice and hates the travel/media side of the game being a top player forces on him.
His missus always looks like she would wear the trousers as well in their marriage given where they are located near Minehead must be a massive ball ache over a year to get to every event he has to travel to compared to being based more centrally. Don't think he will care less about a legacy or his place on the all time list either. Coupled all that with the fact he has his own mini stable of youngsters i imagine he must get a piece of their revenue somehow. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on January 30, 2019, 06:58:23 PM Don't think its a huge price he retires this year. Think he has made enough money to retire now and won everything in the game he would have wanted to win. He doesn't love darts as a sport, happy to take loads of time off with family away from practice and hates the travel/media side of the game being a top player forces on him. His missus always looks like she would wear the trousers as well in their marriage given where they are located near Minehead must be a massive ball ache over a year to get to every event he has to travel to compared to being based more centrally. Don't think he will care less about a legacy or his place on the all time list either. Coupled all that with the fact he has his own mini stable of youngsters i imagine he must get a piece of their revenue somehow. Could probably nick a few grand a week doing exhibitions at Butlins :D Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on January 31, 2019, 10:49:02 AM Don't think its a huge price he retires this year. Think he has made enough money to retire now and won everything in the game he would have wanted to win. He doesn't love darts as a sport, happy to take loads of time off with family away from practice and hates the travel/media side of the game being a top player forces on him. His missus always looks like she would wear the trousers as well in their marriage given where they are located near Minehead must be a massive ball ache over a year to get to every event he has to travel to compared to being based more centrally. Don't think he will care less about a legacy or his place on the all time list either. Coupled all that with the fact he has his own mini stable of youngsters i imagine he must get a piece of their revenue somehow. Yeah I wouldn’t disagree with that. He already plays a fairly light schedule and if his back is causing him real issues and darts is aggravating it I could see him calling it a day, this is the second year running he has really struggled post worlds which i’m giessing is to do with the heavy schedule Oct-Dec. He has two young kids as well and can’t be short of a few quid, so his priorities are likely to be somewhat different nowadays. I don’t think he’s the type to struggle on if he isn’t capable of competing at the top level. I took some fancy prices on a wide Suljovic win on Thursday. PL is obviously pretty lucrative so i’m guessing he plays even if he’s struggling unless they give him a pass for a couple of weeks. It’s a long old trek up to Newcastle from his gaff as well which can’t help. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on January 31, 2019, 06:53:48 PM Suljovic 7/1 for match treble tomorrow
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on February 01, 2019, 10:09:41 PM No sweat suljovic
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on February 02, 2019, 02:58:51 PM What people liking in price v wade?
Could be a hostile crowd, price will embrace it I reckon Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 02, 2019, 03:03:02 PM What people liking in price v wade? Could be a hostile crowd, price will embrace it I reckon such a watching brief this event. You have no idea what any of them have been doing for a month + since the worlds and it isn't a ranking event either so their motivation, apart from a huge first prize for playing 4 games, has to be taken on trust. I was at resorts world on Thurs night in Bham where MVG and Whitlock did an exhiibition and they both looked in great nick. Whitlock gets on the plane from the NEC to edinburgh the next morning and gets drilled 10-1. Watching brief this event if you ever needed a watching brief. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on February 02, 2019, 07:53:50 PM Typical wade winning with 87 average
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: vegaslover on February 04, 2019, 08:50:16 PM Anderson out of Premier league, must be close to retirement.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 04, 2019, 09:38:23 PM Comedy exhibition style additions to the PL this year with Ando out. Hearn must be struggling to sell the tickets at certain venues you would think. Maybe the Dutch fans are not filling out their arenas to say bye to Barney given how bang out of form he has been.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 04, 2019, 11:01:34 PM Farcical move. The really ridiculous part is that points won in these matches will count for the other 9 players. If you are Gurney having to face Durrant you are not exactly going to be loving life, Whereas Wright facing Lennon will be very happy with his lot. Oh and Cullen must be sick rhat the Leeds night isn’t until after Judgement Night otherwise he would have surely got a poke at it.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 05, 2019, 01:45:05 PM Didn't realise that was the case Bazza. I just assumed that all the 'exhibition' games carried no points for the proper players in the league. How on earth is that fair and proper?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 05, 2019, 07:43:42 PM It’s not. Aside from the fact that the players have differing levels of ability it also gives the potential for a carve up if one of the “contenders” is playing their mate who is desperate for points.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: kp24 on February 05, 2019, 09:11:40 PM Have to say Barry has finally lost the plot plenty of decent players out there who could replace Anderson for the whole premier league abosulte farce
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 05, 2019, 09:13:16 PM My view is he is struggling to sell tickets esp in the foreign events and he has used this as a way to try and fill the arenas up. The three obvious replacements were Jackpot, Whitlock and Chizzy. All three are fully exposed and nothing for the crowd to get excited about which they haven't seen before.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on February 07, 2019, 11:12:29 AM Suljovic most 180s on the first night
28/1 Mmm Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on February 07, 2019, 04:50:55 PM Bit of barney 9/1 match treble
Shouldn’t need to be that good to beat 90 average wade who isn’t a big 180 hitter Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 08, 2019, 06:26:21 AM When i first heard this announcement I was gobsmacked... Then the more i thought about it the more I thought, hmmm.... whats the alternative? Gary out and Whitlock in??? That's pretty ZZZZZZZZZ really, if not Whitlock then who? Durrant would be a wild wild card pick and sort of makes sense but that sort of sets the wrong precedent for the tournament really as Durrant ranked #200 and never played an event as a tour card holder. If you look down the top 16 no one else stands out, you'd have to give Diamond the nod over Chizzy, White, Webster or Clayton, would have to be Adrian Lewis if anyone, but doesn't really deserve it.
So, this actually makes a bit of sense, I think ticket sales are always gonna be fine regardless, euro tours are attracting 4000 fans a day on Sat/Sun, so sticking in guys with local attraction or exciting youngsters for a 1 off day is pretty good idea overall. Dobey got a massive reception last night, Hopp will send the roof off in Berlin, 14000 fans there, Durrant and Dimi both come with a lot of hype, the problem is the points make for an unfair advantage for some, big Hendo averaged 93 on stage last year and Dimi averaged 100, Durrant probs a top 10 player on merit and Lennon is outside the world 32. But having said that, if the games aren't for points then it would lead the official PL player not to really give a fuck so would potentially make a mockery of the thing, so a really tough spot for Hearn and co. I think behind bringing a new player in which is obviously the most natural decision I think this is probs the best call, given no natural player to pick I'd say they might have got it right. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 08, 2019, 11:28:51 AM If they all perform like Dobey did last night then it will have been a master stroke. You are right about adding Whitlock, there would be nothing interesting about seeing him finish in the bottom 3. I personally think they should have taken a punt on Durrant but whilst the chosen solution isn’t fair for the rest of the players it has created interest and discussion which I guess was part of the plan.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: vegaslover on February 08, 2019, 03:49:58 PM Dobey probably learnt more from them 12 legs then he has from any other game.
Amazing opportunity to get exposed to that pressure. Up to him to learn from it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on February 09, 2019, 05:24:14 AM its a good line up, Dimi, Humphries, Aspinall, de Zwaan, Dobey a group of youngsters that have all brought it properly on the big stage in very recent times, 100+ tv averages. The german leg is the biggest of the tour and desperate for Max Hopp he's hit and miss but my god if he shows up in Berlin the roof will go off. Everyone wants to see Durrant on the big stage.
These aren't randoms these are top players on the rise. As for Hendo and Lennon, they defo short of the grade but will get a big local reception, probably needed another Scot in there. The format has been a little stale over the past years, the premier league has suffered a bit from a drama standpoint as the established guys tend to dominate and new blood gets dispatched very easily as it comes through, threatens to get a bit samey and Barry obvs seen this as a chance to shake things up. The more i ponder it the more brilliant i think it is. Hopefully 2019 sees some of the exciting talent in the PDC finally deliver big stage results and force the premier league into a big reshuffle, otherwise darts' biggest exhibition might genuinely start to decline. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on February 09, 2019, 09:45:00 AM https://twitter.com/livedarts/status/1094169078594449408
interesting little interview with Conan Whitehead Touches on q school, bdo and different attitude to pdc this time around Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 09, 2019, 10:01:59 AM I haven't watched the PL group stages for a good few years now. Got really bored of it and it goes on far too long for me.
Not sure if it was because Dobey is a local lad but i enjoyed watching it the other day as it was a bit different. I think after the worlds it's a great chance to see how Humpries and The Asp do on the big stage again. And along with Durrant I'll definitely watch those games to see how they get on. I'd never tune in to watch Simon Whitlock. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 09, 2019, 10:30:32 AM its a good line up, Dimi, Humphries, Aspinall, de Zwaan, Dobey a group of youngsters that have all brought it properly on the big stage in very recent times, 100+ tv averages. The german leg is the biggest of the tour and desperate for Max Hopp he's hit and miss but my god if he shows up in Berlin the roof will go off. Everyone wants to see Durrant on the big stage. These aren't randoms these are top players on the rise. As for Hendo and Lennon, they defo short of the grade but will get a big local reception, probably needed another Scot in there. The format has been a little stale over the past years, the premier league has suffered a bit from a drama standpoint as the established guys tend to dominate and new blood gets dispatched very easily as it comes through, threatens to get a bit samey and Barry obvs seen this as a chance to shake things up. The more i ponder it the more brilliant i think it is. Hopefully 2019 sees some of the exciting talent in the PDC finally deliver big stage results and force the premier league into a big reshuffle, otherwise darts' biggest exhibition might genuinely start to decline. Barry rarely gets it wrong to be fair. It feels like it really should be a big year for the likes of VDB, JDZ, Dobey. They have stacks of ability but only shown it in flashes so far. Dobey backing up his worlds form the other night was a positive sign and his action is virtually flawless. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 09, 2019, 01:04:37 PM I love the idea i just think its unfair from a competition stand point that these games count. Gurney is a huge price at 5/1 to finish bottom. Everyone knows my view on how over rated he is/falsely ranked (the flip side of how badly Smith has been ranked for the last 2 years). He lost a potential 'relegation 6 pointer' on opening night to price. Gurney has got a much tougher wildcard game than Price and Barney didn't play that badly in defeat in his first game. 5/1 is close to a max bet for me.
https://www.oddschecker.com/darts/premier-league/premier-league-darts/to-finish-bottom Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on February 10, 2019, 05:24:22 PM great stuff in general today (4 nine darters)
Glenn into final versus Chizzy lovely Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 10, 2019, 06:13:12 PM Durrant going to do just fine in the PDC. Draw opened up nicely for him and he took advantage before falling at the last.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 17, 2019, 05:41:28 PM Durrant off the mark. Pretty much guarantees he will be in every major TV tournament already.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on February 17, 2019, 06:40:49 PM Pleased to see a personal favourite of mine Van Den Bergh finally show some floor form as well.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on February 17, 2019, 07:39:27 PM Pleased to see a personal favourite of mine Van Den Bergh finally show some floor form as well. He needed a run after going out in first round in each tournament last weekend. Rob Cross been playing lights out over both weekends and hardly anything to show for it. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on February 24, 2019, 07:42:45 AM Durrant off the mark. Pretty much guarantees he will be in every major TV tournament already. 50/1 for the Worlds... Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Killerkilsby on February 24, 2019, 06:54:10 PM Gerwyn Price won BOTH this weekends tour events. Pretty impressive feat that!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on March 01, 2019, 06:35:11 PM What’s wright doing as favourite against Suljovic again lol
Same as last night Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 01, 2019, 06:40:54 PM some draw in the 4th round. 6 or 7 pearlers as first round proper games. Looking forward to watching it alongside the heats of the Golden Sprint at Romford tonight on RPGTV. Quality night of niche sport in prospect.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 01, 2019, 08:30:50 PM MVG not a fan of the South West. Looks like he can't wait to get to Bristol airport to get home.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 03, 2019, 01:04:33 PM been a great tournament this, 1/4 finals are a nice looking set of games - Stevenson vs Price is the main mis-match Price on current form should win with 1 eye closed, fair play to mirror man who's taken advantage of some sub-par performances by bigger names and been good and steady but i think his race run here.
Other 3 games, I think the faves are justified but could see the underdogs getting a result in every game. Think Cross @ 3/1 to win it has a snippet of value there, major doubts that Bully can last the day with his injury and Beaton a tougher game at this stage of the comp than Payne for me (as much as I like Josh Payne) so dont see why Bully should be shorter than Cross. Price a justified fave for every good reason an it's all priced in. Would like to bet Asp too wish I could get a bit higher than 6s Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 03, 2019, 01:19:57 PM Price 6/4 Betfred and Wade 8/5 for their premier league games next Thursday needs mopping up. Both have to go off shorter based on this weekends performances.
40/1 Price for next years world's needs mopping up as well. Price is a top 4 player on all known current form/results/scoring. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 03, 2019, 03:59:17 PM I love the business end of majors, always so much on the line for rankings;
2 Rob Cross England +£793,000 3 Peter Wright Scotland £573,250 4 Gary Anderson Scotland £557,000 5 Daryl Gurney N. Ireland £522,750 6 Michael Smith England +£500,500 7 Gerwyn Price Wales +£401,500 8 Mensur Suljovic Austria £396,250 Price, who I agree Arb is certainly in the top 4 in the world on current form, does still have a bit of a maintain to climb to get there, if he picks up a wi here he'll be on 490k~ and right in the thick of it, if he busts to Smith in the semis he's going to find himself a fair bit adrift, Mensur is hot on his heels too and some daylight between him and the big man would likely be well received! If Smith can pick up a win then he'll leapfrog into world #3, and thats gonna be a Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 03, 2019, 06:43:40 PM I love the business end of majors, always so much on the line for rankings;
2 Rob Cross England +£793,000 3 Peter Wright Scotland £573,250 4 Gary Anderson Scotland £557,000 5 Daryl Gurney N. Ireland £522,750 6 Michael Smith England +£500,500 7 Gerwyn Price Wales +£401,500 8 Mensur Suljovic Austria £396,250 Price, who I agree Arb is certainly in the top 4 in the world on current form, does still have a bit of a maintain to climb to get there, if he picks up a wi here he'll be on 490k~ and right in the thick of it, if he busts to Smith in the semis he's going to find himself a fair bit adrift, Mensur is hot on his heels too and some daylight between him and the big man would likely be well received! If Smith can pick up a win then he'll leapfrog into world #3, and thats gonna be a good place to be come the back end of the year when cross has nearly £500k to defend! On the same train, in a year Cross has £600,000 to defend and a hungry pack chasing him, picking up £100k in the first major of the year would be an unreal start to the year, as he really needs to post some money this year or could find himself outside the top 10! As for Nathan Aspinall, a win for him puts him in the top 16! Which would be quite the achievement, the semi final puts him in the top 25 and a final will get him really knocking on the door of the top 20, its a massive charge for him and I think he could be really really challenging for the a top 16 spot come the worlds. Lots to play for, and its fun that 3/4 of them are guys making runs and not guys defending like usual. The PDC majors are so competitive these days and if you can put some results together you can really bomb up there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 03, 2019, 07:49:22 PM Love asps' grandad in the crowd. You know he has watched every pro tour event he has ever played.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 03, 2019, 08:02:21 PM great game. Price put the kid bang under it and he responds like that. Price had a million bounce outs tonight as well. Far too many to be random surely?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 03, 2019, 08:35:33 PM Terrific game, Price didn't play badly either he just started slowly and gave Asp a little too much of a head start . he started throwing the sink at him and he responds with some top drawer clutch darts, the 121 bang under it on the bull and the 239 in 5 darts with Price waiting is just pure class.
2019 looks to be shaping up rosy for those two, Asp world #22 whatever happens in the final. He's no gimme for in that final either vs either a Rob Cross who struggles for consistency on these multi-game days or a Micheal Smith with a whole in his leg. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: vegaslover on March 03, 2019, 09:52:46 PM The bed in the triple 20 looks like it has come straight from the pub, lots of darts looked loose even when they didn't bounce out.
Fancy aspinall in the final, some bang average darts in the games tonight Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on March 03, 2019, 10:39:04 PM 85 average vs 84 average at 10-5
Aspinalls first big tv final, what’s cross excuse Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 03, 2019, 11:02:03 PM It may not have been the highest standard of darts ever seen but what a cracking tournament. So good to see the new breed coming through.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 04, 2019, 12:18:33 AM When the tournament cuts up and there no MVG or Anderson going deep then the final can be a bit of a damp squib, especially in formats where they have multiple games on finals day. These guys just aren’t used to playing with that intensity. Cross admitted he had nothing left for the final.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 04, 2019, 09:00:56 AM Asp up to a few quid shy of £300k in career earnings with over £200k coming in the past 3 months. Making the top 16 only 14 months after winning back his tour card is some going as well. He would have been a million to do that when he was 2-0 down v Price in the first round at the Worlds. With no money to defend for the rest of the year and guaranteed first round prize money from all the majors an average year should have him pretty much in the top 10 by the end of the year. Great shot at a PL spot and bound to get World Series invites too.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 04, 2019, 09:22:10 AM When the tournament cuts up and there no MVG or Anderson going deep then the final can be a bit of a damp squib, especially in formats where they have multiple games on finals day. These guys just aren’t used to playing with that intensity. Cross admitted he had nothing left for the final. Yep, even Anderson (and even more so with his back) has said the long multi game days take their toll on him, MVG is an animal and deals with this so much better than anyone else and hence why he's been able to dominate so much, you could tell Cross just totally out of gas from back to back BO21 games, hence why he hit 8 180s and only averaged 84, he played well this weekend and should be pretty happy overall i think. Would be much better for these tournaments if the finals weren't played same day as the 1/4s and semis but cant really see the alternative, i thought the tournament was amazing - not blistering averages but so many really entertaining games. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 04, 2019, 10:42:08 AM As if Smith doesn't have enough problems at the minute with his injury and his slow start to the prem league he has to face Asp in his 'soft' week in the PL a week on Thurs.
UK open prize money is very top heavy and relatively poorly paid for the players given the demands of the best of 19/21 3 times in a day compared to other weekend events. 1/4 finals get £12500 and semis £20000. 40-100k final/winner. Nearly half the 159 runner field didn't earn a penny for turning up to play. It's a pretty poor event for the vast majority of players in the field given the size of the field/workload over the weekend and being based in Butlins in the middle of nowhere for the weekend miles from where the vast majority of players are based. The event is designed to sell holidays at Butlins (have you seen the price of going for the weekend it isn't cheap) and give the up and coming boys a chance to play a tv event (albeit most of them lose money doing so after expenses because they don't make a penny until the 3rd round and then they only get a grand). The format is never going to change now there are 160 runners in it. Hearn has maxed out the beer sales on the Friday sessions now as well with the extended format. The five thousand punters who turn up every year for it love it and its built for tv/holiday sales perfectly. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 04, 2019, 11:27:32 AM As Camel has said elsewhere though being 16 is the death trap spot (Asp should jump out of that spot though pretty soon with no money to defend) facing mvg in the last 16. However if you take the current top 16 of the OOM the top half of a draw now would look like this
MVG -1 Ando - 4 Gurney - 5 Mensur - 8 Wade - 9 White - 12 Webster - 13 Asp -16 Jackpot -17 Bottom half would be Cross - 2 Snake - 3 Smith - 6 Price - 7 Whitlock -10 Chis - 11 Clayton - 14 Cullen -15 Smith and Price will be quite happy with their current rankings in the much softer half of any major draw and won't be in any rush to get to 5 in the world. https://www.pdc.tv/order-of-merit/pdc-order-merit Updated OOM. Barney out of the top 32 now. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 04, 2019, 07:20:37 PM Calling it a death trap spot a gross overstatement to be fair given it affects two ranking tournaments 6 months apart. It’s long odds against that anyone lands in 16th spot for two consecutive tournaments (although Jackpot ran bad as per last year and ended up 16 for Matchplay and then Worlds). Given how fluid the rankings are it’s not really an issue. Asp long odds against to be in 16th spot by the time the Matchplay comes around.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 04, 2019, 07:29:31 PM Calling it a death trap spot a gross overstatement to be fair given it affects two ranking tournaments 6 months apart. It’s long odds against that anyone lands in 16th spot for two consecutive tournaments (although Jackpot ran bad as per last year and ended up 16 for Matchplay and then Worlds). Given how fluid the rankings are it’s not really an issue. Asp long odds against to be in 16th spot by the time the Matchplay comes around. 16 or 17 is the same effectively draw wise. I appreciate your point at this time of the year a lot of pro tour events have to take place. It's £30k from 17th to 18th though (Bunting) which is a fair drop off. Asp should only go one way realistically before the match play. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 05, 2019, 10:43:49 AM Mickey Mansell fined £1k for not playing to the best of his ability at the Worlds. I don’t quite know what to make of that to be honest. He was obviously hopeless averaging 74 but there have been many hopeless performances over the years gone unpunished. I don’t recall any significant line movement on the match either which would suggest something a bit more sinister. Strange one.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 05, 2019, 12:13:24 PM Mickey Mansell fined £1k for not playing to the best of his ability at the Worlds. I don’t quite know what to make of that to be honest. He was obviously hopeless averaging 74 but there have been many hopeless performances over the years gone unpunished. I don’t recall any significant line movement on the match either which would suggest something a bit more sinister. Strange one. Makes no sense at all. The one event you wouldn't throw it in would be the world's with his ranking as a few wins can fire him right into the big time. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on March 05, 2019, 01:28:56 PM Makes even less sense when his opponent averaged 75!
The general consensus seems to be the regulators issue these strange punishments at times. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on March 05, 2019, 05:48:18 PM Mardle says on twitter he has been told it costs 3k to appeal!
No wonder Mansell wont Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 05, 2019, 07:19:50 PM Rumour has it that the fine is because he was pissed. I don’t remember anything blatantly obvious at the time but I’ve seen many clear cases in the past go unpunished. A couple of years back Cullen was at the players and banged in a 101 ave in the afternoon. Came back in the evening to play Barney and clearly had a skinful and averaged 71. That was as blatant as it gets and went unpunished.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 07, 2019, 08:37:18 AM Great night for the draws in the PL tonight. First four games all look very very close. First three are all text book flips and the Wright game looks a lot closer than the betting suggests. Definitely worth a yankee tonight if you can get 10/3+ each leg.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: typhoon13 on March 07, 2019, 12:43:14 PM Great night for the draws in the PL tonight. First four games all look very very close. First three are all text book flips and the Wright game looks a lot closer than the betting suggests. Definitely worth a yankee tonight if you can get 10/3+ each leg. Just what I was thinking Arbs In for two £11 accas and a £3 lucky 15 Gambling boots are on Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: typhoon13 on March 08, 2019, 07:19:06 AM Draws no good then Profit overall with Arbs double though, wdwdwd Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 08, 2019, 12:06:28 PM contenders been an amazing success thus far, been no games including contenders that have been anything close to a walkover.
Not sure if it can live as a long term thing but a great idea for this year. Need good Prem now we aint got much major darts to do for a few months. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: horseplayer on March 08, 2019, 12:13:38 PM Hearn will be gagging for a repeat of that again with Big Hendo
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 08, 2019, 12:58:27 PM Asp is up next week in Nottingham against Smith.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 08, 2019, 12:59:35 PM How would you price Gurney v Barney in Holland in the PL in 3 weeks? Will Barney be close to a fav given how mental the crowd was last year out there?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: typhoon13 on March 08, 2019, 03:29:37 PM How would you price Gurney v Barney in Holland in the PL in 3 weeks? Will Barney be close to a fav given how mental the crowd was last year out there? The crowd was very kind to Barney last night when he walked on but he still couldn't produce the goods Gurney could be anything, so unpredictable If you was still running the book how would you price it? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 08, 2019, 03:54:22 PM I would make it 5/4 gurney 2/1 barney and 3/1 the draw. But would be worried about getting filled in on the 5/4!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 08, 2019, 06:27:09 PM contenders been an amazing success thus far, been no games including contenders that have been anything close to a walkover. Not sure if it can live as a long term thing but a great idea for this year. Need good Prem now we aint got much major darts to do for a few months. Barry rarely gets anything wrong to be fair to him. I wasn’t overly keen on it when announced but it has been a massive success. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 08, 2019, 06:38:31 PM i could see a big 10 ini the PL next year and then an additional contenders match each night between two contenders but having no league implications.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 08, 2019, 08:12:20 PM How would you price Gurney v Barney in Holland in the PL in 3 weeks? Will Barney be close to a fav given how mental the crowd was last year out there? 6/5 gurney 9/4 barney if they played tomorrow imo Few edges in barneys favour but he's just not playing well enough or showing anything enough, gurney playing alright overall just missing a bit of the mega scoring that made him so dangerous, get the feeling he's sort of out of love with it at the moment. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: typhoon13 on March 21, 2019, 01:32:09 PM Four of tonights matches have potential draw outcome The chins confidence is low and looks like getting lower Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 21, 2019, 01:41:32 PM yes very good night on paper for the draw yankee taking out the mvg game. Good luck to all playing.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 22, 2019, 10:59:13 AM Barney not done yet!
His PL race probably done but he's the kind of man who likes a miracle, HUGE night for barney next week - He plays Gurney, and Smith plays price, if he can beat DG 7-4 or better and Price beat smith he'll go 1 point clear of Bully and 1 point behind gurney with a better legs diff. Then, a win vs MVG and he's safe, lol. Or he'll be relying on Wade to beat Bully. Hopefully he beats Gurney and gives himself a chance of last night miracles, sport kinda wants it too, speshly in Rotterdam where he's been exceptional in the past, but cold hard truth is he just isn't playing as well as he was back then. His pro tour final at the weekend has shot him back into the world top 32, and up about 60 places on the pro tour order of merit if he can put another £15k together on the pro tour it will probs get him into the matchplay - he's qualified for this first euro tour and even though has Rob Cross in rnd 2 it's still £2k ranking money and puts him 15% of the way there. So good to see some fighting spirit from Barney in his last year! This Euro Tour is interesting, MVG 11/10 first time i've seen him be odds-against for one of these things in forever, getting v tempting, his draw is quite nasty really - King/Duzza/Price or Smith/Wade/Chizzy/Mensur route to the final. Amazing how tough these comps are there just isn't an easy draw going. Looking forward to seeing Duzza in the ET, he's averaging £5k a weekend on the Pro tour which is super steady and with £20k already shouldn't be any bother getting himself into the matchplay, if he can find himself a couple of deep ET runs then he'll be into the PT OOM top 16 pretty quickly and that's where you need to be. James Wade @ 18/1 EW might not be the worst little poke going in this, he's got one of the smoother draws and even though he's due to an MVG meet in the semi he'll fancy it and a lot of danger for a supposedly out of form MVG to face before the semi final! Gary made his return to the Pro Tour this previous weekend and only managed 1 (albeit resounding win) going out to Vincent VDV in the second round on the saturday and first round to conon whitehead on sunday, with low 90s averages. Doesn't look all that promising for Gary but this is a pretty decent time to be out really if you're not in the PL and if he thinks he's fit enough to play some pro tours then that's probably a good sign. Be interesting to see what his schedule looks like between now and Blackpool, 6 pro tour weekends, Vegas Master, German masters and the world cup in between now and then, you gotta think he'll play probably every one of the pro tour weekends not being in the PL, World cup with short format games and decent prize money seems like a great spot for some stage darts match practice and if he goes to Vegas that's probably a huge sign that he's feeling great about his back again. Some good news for Gary this weekend is that if Peter Wright doesn't make the semi-final at this ET then Gary will default move back to world #3 for the first time in a 16 months, all from the comfort of the massage table! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 26, 2019, 01:43:04 PM Peter Wright clings on!!!
1 MVG Nlands £1,627,250 2 Rob Cross England £821,000 3 Peter Wright Scotland £554,250 4 Gary Anderson Scotland £554,250 5 Daryl Gurney N.Ireland £531,000 6 Michael Smith England £505,750 7 Gerwyn Price Wales £407,000 8 Mensur Suljovic Austria £395,750 9 James Wade England £343,000 10 Simon Whitlock Australia £314,500 11 Dave Chisnall England £298,750 12 Ian White England £270,500 13 Darren Webster England £253,000 14 Johnny Clayton Wales £250,000 15 Adrian Lewis England £247,500 16 Nathan Aspinall England £240,750 17 Joe Cullen England £240,250 Here's a list of what everyone is defending between now and the end of the worlds; 1 MvG Nlands £624,750 2 Rob Cross England £588,500 3 Peter Wright Scotland £351,750 4 Daryl Gurney N.Ireland £276,750 5 Mensur Suljovic Austria £185,250 6 Simon Whitlock Australia £151,250 7 Michael Smith England £150,822 8 Darren Webster England £123,250 9 Dave Chisnall England £116,250 10 Gerwyn Price Wales £115,500 11 Gary Anderson Scotland £114,000 12 Ian White England £110,250 13 Joe Cullen England £106,250 14 Johnny Clayton Wales £99,000 15 Adrian Lewis England £83,750 16 James Wade England £75,000 17 Nathan Aspinall England £0 So MVG could take the rest of the year off and still almost certainly be over £400/£500k clear at the top of the rankings, Rob Cross sustaining his ranking points over the year will need to include a major win and a deep run at the worlds (final+) but Voltage has a much smaller amount to defend in 2020 so his objective should just be to hold into the top 10/8/6 - £150k between now and the worlds should keep him top 10, and go from there, good thing for Rob Cross is he is playing superbly right now, bad thing is he's going to be crazy busy and last year he suffered a bit to the back end of the year, he'll for sure be going to all the WSOD events etc so how he manages his schedule will be paramount to how his year goes, the dangers are he runs himself out of gas for the business end of the yer again and starts to brick major tournaments Sept-December when the big money is up for grabs. Peter Wright's problems remain the same but he is starting to show better form, biggest unfortunate point for PW is all his money is coming off mid-way through the year, which means unless he can somehow keep himself in the top 5 by the end of the matchplay he's going to find himself with tougher draws for the big period of the year, complete opposite to RC who'd money all comes off at the end. I've said it before but he's schedule is way too big and he needs to find himself a better balance if he's going to cling onto the top 10 rankings. If he burns himself out and falls out of the top 10 he might really really struggle to find his way back. All it's going to take from Gary Anderson is £150k between now and the worlds and he's going to be a big fave to be world #2 by Xmas, he;s not under pressure now Gary but next year he's going to be defending a lot of money so he'll really want to finish the year with £200k clear of world #3, whoever that will be, so he should be looking at £250-£300k between now and the end of the year, not having to meet MVG till the WC final when its £200k for a final will be nice for him. Gurney's big rankings hit is gonna come at the GP where he's got £100k to defend, he really needs to add some money to his rankings before then as he doesn't want to slip and end up ranked badly for the worlds where the big money is, he doesn't seem to have any drive for the floor and the only big money spot before then is the Matchplay, he might be under some pressure in Blackpool if he cant put £35k+ together from the ET's in the meantime. Gerwyn Price has £120k to make up on Gurney and £140k to make up on Wright and has £160k and £230k respectively less to defend and is playing a decent bit better than both of them, he'll be BANG up for that and with Micheal Smith looking to struggle a little, Gary's back still uncertain and Cross defending bombs at the worlds, Iceman can't be thinking finishing the year as world #2 is a too much of a pipe dream. Smith has a £100k headstart on Gerwyn with only £35k more to defend, so if he gets himself back into form he'll have the same designs. Whitlock, Mensur and Darren Webster could be in a little bit of bother right now, Demolition man in particular is surrounded by people playing very well (Aspinall, Chizzy, Lewis, Clayton) and is defending more than all of them - his form has looked pretty horrible since a poor worlds and an very bad start to 2019 won't be helping his confidence. Whitlock another one who's form is not justifying his rankings and the guys around him are hunting, Mensur looks in miles better form and having £100k buffer over Chizzy in 11th is going to be plenty I think for Mensur. James Wade with £75k to defend and playing as well as he's played in years should be relishing this chance, he's only £200k away from 3rd/4th and has way less to defend than anyone else above him, top 6 should be a great aim for Wadey and honestly from where he was in 2017 to be back here with a legit top 6 poke and back playing to his best is pretty staggering, he's only 35 too The Machine, already won 9 major titles - could be 15 more years of top flight darts for James Wade if he can continue to adapt and improve, might ell end up behind MVG and Phil as the 3rd most decorated player ever! Two years ago I was backing his opponent every game and cleaning up! Adrian Lewis, Dave Chisnall, Johnny Clayton, all defending modest money and playing really well, you gotta think out of the three of them at least one is gonna poke up into the top 10. Clayton has £50k to defend right before the worlds so defo needs to be careful not to run flat of form prior and end up back in the dreaded 16th spot for the worlds. Lewis has been unlucky last 14 months really and its bound to change and he'll catch a bit of good fortune and go on a run at some stage, winning a pro tour the other week will boost confidence and just seems inevitable that a few decent major runs are coming for Aidey, he's defo one to watch out for at a decent price EW when he's out of MVG's half of the draw in upcoming majors. Chizzy has won 2 pro tours this year and overall has looked really, really good, hasn't really put it onto the stage yet this year but if he does then he's got a great shot at a surge back into the top 8. Obviously the best shaped guy is current world #16 Nathan Aspinall, with nothing to defend for the rest of the year and only £65k away from #10 a mediocre set of results between now and the worlds will probs see him quite comfortably up to 13th, his big problem is he's still ranked 36th on the pro tour which he really needs to work on, as he might slip out of the top 16 and then miss out on the matchplay, needs to be in all the ET's and make sure he focuses and find his stage form on the floor, it's an amazing opportunity for Asp as he has until WC 2021 before any money comes off - big top 10 shout. Poor Joe Cullen on the heels of the Top 16 but its going to be such a tough one to crack, with everyone above him defending similar/less and playing really well, he blew a few guilt edge chances of adding to his rankings last year which he's really paying the price for right now, the Euro's in particular was a huge blow for him. Even on the euro tour he blew some good chances at making finals and just picking up £4k here, £6k there etc when things are so tight at the 12-16 rankings could be the big difference. 10 pro tour events and 4 euros to go before the matchplay, not mega money but plenty of chances for things to happen! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on March 28, 2019, 11:10:25 AM De zwaan match treble 18/1
Price most 180s 13/8 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 28, 2019, 09:56:14 PM Poor Barney.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on March 29, 2019, 01:17:32 AM Fair play Barney - announce the retirement coming at the Worlds at the end of the year (even though anyone with a clue knows you're million to make it), collect the sympathy PL invitation cash, then knock it on the head.
One of my favourite ever sportsmen - Chapeau! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 29, 2019, 01:35:05 AM I'd bet Barney to be in the worlds at 2/1.
Interestingly, if Phil still had his card he'd be world #11 ! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on March 29, 2019, 10:10:42 AM Raymond van Barneveld announces retirement after Premier League defeat https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/47728242 (Probably, maybe). Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on March 29, 2019, 11:00:11 AM Fair play Barney - announce the retirement coming at the Worlds at the end of the year (even though anyone with a clue knows you're million to make it), collect the sympathy PL invitation cash, then knock it on the head. One of my favourite ever sportsmen - Chapeau! He probably needs about £25k on the pro tour over the rest of the year to qualify, given he'd snuck back into top 32 after pro tour final I reckon he'd have made the worlds. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: vegaslover on March 29, 2019, 04:31:37 PM https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/47747262
Retirement didn't last long. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 29, 2019, 04:36:26 PM Overnight retirement like his latest 'girlfriend' in exeter. Love the comms from the iphone video stalker. Top class. Barney in a small town hotel (where loads of darts fans would have been staying) just couldn't give a fuc k. You couldn't pick a worse stop on the pl tour to do that Barney. Exeter!!!!!! London/Manc/Bham you get away with it no problem.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8614402/raymond-van-barneveld-kissing-mystery-woman/ Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on March 29, 2019, 04:54:45 PM I'd bet Barney to be in the worlds at 2/1. Interestingly, if Phil still had his card he'd be world #11 ! If he’s still playing in December he will be an absolute lock to be in. The chances are he will have qualified and if he doesn’t then Barry will find him a wild card. He probably should be looking to box clever with the Pro Tour events as well. If he’s struggling with the schedule then he should be looking to sack off the weekends where everyone is turning up and attacking the weekends where MVG and a few others sit out. Not having the PL every Thursday and the travelling that goes with it should help him now as well. If guys like Edgar, Jones, JDG and Stevenson can get in through the Pro Tour OOM then even the 2019 version of barney should be fine. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on April 01, 2019, 11:55:51 AM Yeh i was up for betting 2/1 during his retirement, think he's odds on if he tries, it's a lot more of an ask for him to get to the grand prix or matchplay, I think he's gonna need a world cup entrance to get in the grand slam. If he grinds the PC's he doesn't even need that much, £6k the other day a big help, £15k from the PCs and £12k from the ETs and he sails into players & euros and thus into the worlds, he could prbs sack the ET's off and push it through on the PC circuit but stage darts on the continent should really be right up Barney's alley.
Think un-retired he's a slam dunk at even money to be there. I think it'll be impossible for Barry to Wild Card him though, he's said like 300 times when asked about a Power WC that darts is a "meritocracy" and he'd "never allow someone who's earnt a place to lose it to a reputation - you get what you earn in PDC darts..." would be outrageous hypocrisy to go back on that and Barney shouldn't really accept either as it's a bit pathetic. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on April 01, 2019, 04:45:32 PM Will only get into the world cup if he is the second ranked Dutch player on the OOM before the WC starts. Pretty sure its automatically the two highest ranked playerss at the time who play for the country. Not sure where Barney will sit that way by the WC.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on April 01, 2019, 05:03:04 PM https://www.pdc.tv/order-of-merit/pdc-order-merit
Gurney lol third in the world now albeit by pennies. Not many jump from 6th to 3rd in the world winning a mickey mouse event to dodge MVG still in the draws. Smith won't be in a rush to move from 6th whilst that lasts. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on April 01, 2019, 09:02:27 PM Will only get into the world cup if he is the second ranked Dutch player on the OOM before the WC starts. Pretty sure its automatically the two highest ranked playerss at the time who play for the country. Not sure where Barney will sit that way by the WC. Yeh, although there has been occasions in the past where one of the players has declined to play for whatever reasons. Currently would be Jermaine Wattimena but he and Barney are by all accounts very close and JW has rep for being a nice bloke wouldn't be shocked if he passes it over so Barny have have a farewell World Cup. I assume any deal would privately involved JW getting all RVB's money from the event, JW when you're gridlocked in the ruthless 28-16 area cant really afford to pass up a poke at the GSOD with all the ranking money up for grabs there, as well as the not so insignificant matter of 30 bags each if you win! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: typhoon13 on April 04, 2019, 01:48:39 PM Got drawn into the first three matches draw at 4/1 First time I have ever done a Trixie Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on April 04, 2019, 01:50:56 PM games best of 14 now so draw is 7-7 but the increased price of 4/1 if you can get it in the coin flip games is better value than 7/2 iin the best of 12 games.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2019, 09:08:23 PM drawssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on April 25, 2019, 09:18:33 PM Haha, I only ever remember when someone posts.
Good luck, anyone who's on! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on April 28, 2019, 12:20:40 AM Like wright smith and price all as big priced underdogs next week
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 09, 2019, 09:52:13 PM Wonder where Gary is, and what he's doing with his back.... Big rankings chance opening up for him here, Peter Wrights slump down the rankings continues and he has another £100k to lose between now and the matchplay, Gurney has £150k to defend between now and the grand prix, Cross nealry £500k to defend between now and the worlds, Smith out of form, Price has slipped off a bit and is a long way back, there's really no opposition to Gary rolling into world #2 for end of the year unless of course he doesn't play!! Hope to see him back asap, the World Cup would be good to see, short games and fairly easy format with decent prize money, if he doesn't turn up to that then we've probs got to assume the worst for Gary....
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 24, 2019, 10:16:56 PM Premier league was really exciting for the group stages, one of the most open/exciting I can remember and the fact the top spot wasn't even decided till the last night was cool as well. The final sort of petered out into zzzzzzzz though Rob Cross has a real weakness I think for multi-game days these days, hence why he seems incapable of consistently performing on the euro tour. His dominance over this tournament is pretty indicative of ultimately how hard he dominates the game overall. The only real weak spot you could say is he only currently holds 2x majors (worlds and grand prix) but then he has won 30 major titles in 7 years and is besrt part of a million quid clear in the rankings, so....
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on May 24, 2019, 11:24:38 PM RWB to beat Darren Webster tomorrow 6/4
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on May 25, 2019, 12:35:07 AM World Cup
I really like this tournament, and I'm really excited for this one, feels way more open than previous years. Think we MIGHT see some wacky results, the short formats always lend themselves to some unpredictable results!! The format really lends itself to teams with composed players in them and the format being doubles only in rnd1 we are DEFO going to see an upset. Running through the betting, I see a lot of potential banana skins for the seeds for this tournament. England - Top seeds for this and it does seem like the most likely winners on paper, however I just can't bring myself to fancy them actually winning it, Rob Cross has been superb on TV so far this year and thoroughly under-whelming on the floor. Micheal Smith been pretty inconsistent all year, if the two of them turn up they'll be too much for anyone bar scotland and wales to handle and should blast through, I can see them being put in a venreable spot at least once or twice on the way through this tournament. They have an extremely lose-able game in round 1 vs the Philippines. Noel Malicdem and Laurence Ilagan are both very dangerous players who have performed well on big TV stages before, they have also played pairs games in sot-tip with each other in asia, a race to 9 match vs two players who have it in them to be inconsistent, I wouldn't wanna be betting them for that game at 9s on. The format round 2+ will suit these two better but they gonna run into two more tricky players in round 2 in Willie O'Connor and Steve Lennon. For me, not close to a bet even at top price 3/1. Netherlands Seeded 4th. I saw an article which asked if MVG could win this tournament on his own, I think that's extremely unfair on Jermaine Wattimena who is capable of giving anyone a proper game if he plays well, he is unfortunately very inconsistent, and being alongside MVG will either get him going or over-whelm him. You know what you're gonna get from MVG, so Wattimena's performance is going to be paramount, if he plays really well then the dutch will very likely win the tournament, they do have a bit of a nasty draw though. Spain in the doubles is certainly losable, Poland are surefire dark horses for this in round 2, Australia with a resurgent Whitlock in round 3, England in the Semis. 11/4 a tempter when the MVG factor is there, think Jermaine Wattimena is just going to be too weak vs the big dogs if they have to play an in form England/Scotland/Wales. Scotland Seeded 2nd here, a real head-scratcher... The big question for the Scots is going to be GARY'S BACK barely played a competitive game since being turned over by MVG in the world semis (8 games, won 3, averaged ~95, he was filled in 6-0 by PW last time he played) however it's just a matter of fitness for Gary, he's never going to lack confidence or be rusty on the big stage. Peter Wright has been pretty poor this year really however he does have a knack of grafting results out and so much experience, the changing darts nonsense keeps popping back up and you cant massively trust his mental game. They have a pretty safe passage to the 1/4s and if Gary is fit then I would probably make them favourites, if Gary struggles then I cant see how they get past the Welsh or an in form England. Best price 7/2 with perhaps the best draw, I would just be so concerned about Gary's fitness, he has barely played and that despite Gary's lowish volume in general is not a good sign and therefore I'd be steering clear. Wales Seeded 3rd and I would say serious contenders for this one, I would say over the course of this year these two are probs the most consistent team between them, they are mates and to me feel like the strongest team in this competition, Gerwyn Price has turned himself into a legit rockstar and Johny Clayton is making a big charge for the top 10. I think they're almost guaranteed to play well and have the firey spirit that defo suits team play, but unfortunately for the Welsh lads they seem to have gotten themselves the worst draw going. Singapore filled Scotland in round 1 two years ago and with Paul Lim at the helm they are guarenteed to be a tough game, Japan are another dark horse with Siego Asada and Haruki Muramatsu who have both played well on TV before (you'll remember Siego from the "I did it for my country" shenangians with Wadey at the worlds) he's beaten lots of top pros, and again these two are friends who will be comfortable playing together. Northern Ireland in the quarters, scotland (probs) in the semi's its a tough route for these two but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them winAt best price 7/1 I would fancy this team. Northern Ireland #6 seeds, of course all about Daryl Gurney who's turned himself into a real warrior these days, alongside Brendon Dolan who himself has been playing pretty well for the past year without and real moves, he'll benefit massively from playing alongside DG who's scoring power can match anyones on it's day, Dolan's always been a real steady doubler and this partnership should work well. Reasonably nice path into the 1/4s for a probable showdown with the Welsh, which will be an enormous test for them, if scotland dont turn up for the semi's I wouldn't be overly shocked if they trundle themselves into the final, most likely for the N.I lads though is a 1/4 final send off from Price and Clayton, they just have too much to over-come and when they're gonna need the extra firepower Brendon Dolan just probably isn't going to find it. 14/1 just tooooo skinny. Australia The 5th seeds here, not a massively positive outlook for this Ozzies here, Whitlock, having dropped off a bit towards the back end of last year has put a few good performances together later and looks to be back playing much better. What he really needs is a solid playing partner and a good draw and unfortunately he has neither. Naughty little opener vs the Fins round 1, fairly easy 2nd round vs Canada or Italy then likely Netherlands, then England before they get to the final, Kyle Anderson has just been way out of for lately, having troubles with his glasses, darts, changed his throw. Dont fancy them at all, wouldn't be surprised if the Finnish turned them over and whereas in short formats they could be a proper match for anyone, not going to be an easy game for the Netherlands, I just cant see them putting up any challenge for this and even at 22/1, not for me. Belguim Ranked 7th, on paper Kim and Dimi shouldn't pose much threats in this, neither of them have had any real form this year and Dimitri has looked really hit and miss, with a string of 80 averages thrown in. However...they are good friends, lots of respect there, played great last year together and both absolutely love TV darts and have a habbit of bringing it for big games, tricky draw and a bit of a lack of form but at 25/1 I could be tempted in there.... Austria Seeded 8th, as good as mensur is he's going to get no help whatsover from Zoran in this and I think they are going to need help form the draw, mensur alone should get them into the 1/4s but whoever they find from this point I cant see them beating, even at 33/1 wouldn't be for me. Outside of the seeded teams, Poland - 66/1 - Krystof Ratajski & Tytus Kanik two players massively on the up and up, both full of confidence, they have a pretty easy opener and then a really testing 2nd round vs Netherlands, but that is a game I can just really see them winning, Ratajski is just so solid and a proven winner on the tour now, these two should make a great team. I think they're a fantastic easy way poke and unless something drastic happens I think I'll be betting them vs Holland in the second round. Germany 33/1 - In what is undoubtedly the weakest quarter of the draw, and with big question marks over scotland, some fairly serious question marks over Belguim, looking for a serious contender for this quarter there is not really anyone else to look at bar the germans. Good friends, played together many times, both absolutely love playing for German crowds and both capable of firing in big averages. Philippines -250/1 - As mentioned earlier, two extremely dangerous players who've performed well on TV before, they have a horrible opener vs England but after that it's not looking too bad for these two, Ireland will put up a fight but they're not top tier, Austria are half a team, Australia are out of form, we have doubts of Netherlands...as a 250/1 EW nod they look great to me, I can see the waves parting for them and they might just cause some upsets! New Zealand 300/1 - Cody Harris is vastly improving and Haupai Puha put in a really good display in the world series events, I think they're going to find themselves falling short too often to mount a challenge for this but I wouldn't be hating taking them at a big price vs N.I Japan - 125/1 - As I said, really like this pair and I could see them causing some upsets, the draw for them is really tough though so I wouldn't be betting them at 125/1, the sprinkling of 200/1 though could really tempt me EW/ For me, I would be looking at; Medium Bet Wales 7/1 WIN Small Bet Germany 33/1 WIN Medium Bet Poland 66/1 EW Small Bet Philippines 250/1 EW The first round will provide a lot of options to oppose big favourites, with the unpredictable format I cant see wanting to be on any team at 1/5 there. Patriotically though, I guess we gotta cheer for England ;esochomp; Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on May 25, 2019, 03:48:24 PM RWB to beat Darren Webster tomorrow 6/4 Webster was awful and lost 6-2. They were talking about his elbow still not being right, will be looking to oppose him again Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on June 08, 2019, 07:12:45 PM just goes to show how deep darts quality is these days, if you dont turn up you get Ironed out pretty quickly these days.
I've taken decent lay positions on England and Netherlands, Jermaine Wattimena was brilliant in the first round and Australia's inevitable fall leaves them with a pretty easy (on paper) 1/4 final, and MVG playing vs Ratajski certainly the desireable match-up for the dutch. Gary's back seems to be fine and PW keeping to the same set of darts bodes v well for the Scotts, they looking good for faves right now. Still not convinced by England, they have another potential tricky one vs Rep.Ireland tonight and a probable 1/4 final vs Austria for whom Zoran Lerchbacher player great in rnd 1, I probably under-estimated just how good morale it must be playing alongside Mensur! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on June 08, 2019, 10:53:46 PM Willie O’Connor!
Pretty brainless stuff from the Poles to put Ratajski up against MVG. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on June 09, 2019, 02:44:43 PM Pretty brainless stuff from the Poles to put Ratajski up against MVG. Complete madness, MVG is 95%+ to be going first too, easiest strategic match - up in sporting history that, you're never trying to beat the netherlands 2-0, your strat is get to the pairs and see what happens, put wattimena under pressure. Canada have done the same thing, although it's less relevant given they are such massive under-dogs, but Dawson Murchell has been playing well enough so far to give Wattimena again, who's yet to put to any sort of real test in the tournament, and Jim Long can have some warm up darts vs MVG. BO7 game in the pairs you never know what can happen, it's really poor thinking. Was close to a gimme anyway but it's even more of a gimme now, 1.11 Holland looks big to me. Irish boys look lively, that's not going to be an easy tie for the dutch at all. Scotland looking a bit unbeatable to me if they maintain the form they've shown so far its extremely hard to see anyone beating them Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on June 09, 2019, 09:31:04 PM I felt the Irish lads should have switched it up too due to WOC having the big 100+ game in him with Lennon being the more steadier option up against Wattimena. It worked out for them in the end regardless. MVG will be hoping on an upgrade on Wattimena next year, he should get it in the shape of JDZ
Really enjoyable tournament overall and the best side all week hacked up in the end. Anderson and Wright clearly on much better terms than they were a couple of years back. That should give them both a lift to get their year started. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on June 15, 2019, 12:13:39 PM Shitty Webster about to play
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Bazzaboy on June 21, 2019, 12:23:18 AM I’m fairly sure he gives little (if any) consideration to stuff like this but Anderson really should have played this weekend due to being effectively £1k behind Gurney in the oom. A good weekend and he would have been in the opposite half to MVG at the Worlds.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on July 11, 2019, 08:13:32 AM World matchplay
Gurney to win 28/1 Price to win 20/1 That top half of the bracket looks tough Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 20, 2019, 12:09:05 AM https://www.sportinglife.com/darts/news/world-matchplay-betting-tips/169134
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=59489.3465;num_replies=3466 Great huge in depth write ups but fuck me he loves an after time about bragging about his tips. If he could knock that on the head he wouldn't be challenging Tony Ansell as the biggest after timer in the game. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on July 27, 2019, 12:20:39 AM Great high quality game
Let’s go gurney Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on July 27, 2019, 08:47:41 PM Idiot gurney
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2019, 09:52:11 AM Matchplay another great event :) Just a break for some tin-pot WSOD events before majors majors majors :)
As we head into major season, the rankings are shaping up to make things interesting, enormous win for Rob Cross with £613k to defend this year with his incredible WC win 18 months ago, he hasn't exactly started the year lighting the ranking events up despite playing very well in TV events, but this puts him on ~£240k for the year with bombs of prize money up for grabs between now and the worlds and fortunes up for grabs at the ally pally. 40% if the way there is an amazing result, I think realistically given he'd have been looking at this year and thought, if I cashed for £400k this year hold my top 6-7 spot and on we go to 2020 with 1/3 of the money to defend and that looks a certainty now - the big danger for anyone with a massive portion of their money to defend in a calendar year is they have a bad one, slip down towards the bottom end of the top 16 start drawing Gary and Micheal early in tournaments get used to losing games early in tournaments and end up in the 20s where it's a proper scrap to get out. He's already put that to bed so it's onwards and upwards for Cross now and he's got a real shot of keeping his #2 spot now. 2 Rob Cross England £964,250 3 Daryl Gurney Northern Ireland £545,750 4 Michael Smith England £536,000 5 Gary Anderson Scotland £533,250 6 Peter Wright Scotland £466,000 7 Gerwyn Price Wales £424,750 In recent times the race for the worlds rankings wise has always been about the difference between 3rd and 4th/5th in the rankings, playing MVG in the final as opposed to the semi could potentially be a difference in £100,000 in prize money which is the same as the winner of most of the Majors this year will receive, and it's a pretty tense race now following Cross' result yesterday... Rob Cross England £532,500 Daryl Gurney N Ireland £185,500 Peter Wright Scotland £150,750 Michael Smith England £76,250 Gerwyn Price Wales £74,750 Gary Anderson Scotland £73,500 Here's what each of them are defending between now and the end of the World Championships, and here's how it looks would the worlds begin tomorrow. =2 Gary Anderson £459,750 =2 Micheal Smith £459,750 4. Rob Cross £431,750 5. Daryl Gurney £360,250 6. Gerwyn Price £350,000 7. Peter Wright £315,250 So Gary and Micheal are creepily in a straight shoot-out for their ranking position and Cross exactly £25k behind them, with MVG seemingly out of form and lots of £££ up for grabs could see any kind of movements in the rankings, a major win for Price or Gurney and there could be a 4th man in the fight. Couple of mid table guys will be pretty steaming at their matchplay performances, Ian White will be utterly livid as he's just entered the top 10 after a 4 month spell of form where you'd e hard pressed not to have him in the top 5 but could only manage a second round, he really should be at the tail end of these tournaments where the ranking money really is, he effectively maintains his rankings purely on floor/euro events and its amazing how consistent he is but you simply cannot get yourself into the top 6 like this, and without TV credentials and rankings weight the premier league (for which he's ideally suited imo) will continue to allude him. Nathan Aspinall will be a little annoyed he couldn'y put a run here, with 0 money to defend every major that comes he's a real threat on the top 10, I guess after best part of £300k since regaining his card we can let him off one off-day vs a pretty inspired Mervyn King. Jonny Clayton has plenty to defend this year as he slides to towards the danger end of the top 16 and fell foul to a pretty average Keegan Brown, Adrian Lewis (who got a v bad draw admittedly) really needs to put some runs together but just cant as he and Cullen (who blew more chances than he'll get in the next couple of years) slip out of the top 16 again and the wilderness threatens anyone in that part of the rankings who starts to lose form. You have to ask yourself how people like Dimitri Van Den Bergh, Jamie Lewis, Luke Humprhies cant get themselves into this tournament, it's a real who's who of darts this event and if you're not here then you're not really a big player for me, goes to show the competitive nature of the sport when these guys cant get into a 32 runner field. Barney obviously a sad ommission from the event on his swansong year, despite some fleeting promise throughout the year it looks like we'll likely not see him at the majority of the grand slams this year, the grandstand departure more of a timid extinction, the WSOD events are likely his platform to wave goodbye now. Nice month off then its non stop euros and floor events which give the guys on the edge a chance to make a move in! ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba OI OI OI Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2019, 10:24:49 AM top class analysis as ever little Dave. Cheers
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on October 12, 2019, 05:21:51 PM Not often you see mvg 6/1 for most 180s, highest checkout and win match especially against someone other than Anderson/cross
But that’s what BV have tonight £20 max tho Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on October 19, 2019, 04:00:29 PM https://twitter.com/livedarts/status/1185533213634113536 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on October 25, 2019, 11:15:52 AM Jamie Hughes underdog vs wattimena in the first match today
I like it Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on October 25, 2019, 12:14:27 PM Lol started well, that’s about all he did
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on October 25, 2019, 01:44:27 PM The gamble on Watt was because Hughes was carrying an arm injury.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 17, 2019, 08:12:40 PM This is dominance by price
Wonder if now that his mvg curse is over, he will carry on Top 2 in world Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on November 18, 2019, 03:04:48 PM This is dominance by price Wonder if now that his mvg curse is over, he will carry on Top 2 in world It was a sensational back to back performance. I was so worried about the 'bounce' factor after he finally smashed MVG but he looked Bristow like arrogance wise on stage all day yesterday. Was great to watch. He literally couldn't miss and his 3 t18's on one throw just summed up how in the zone he was. MVG was averaging 108 for most of the match and looked like he was having an off day which just shows how great he still is. Price got the 'soft' hard of the draw for the Players this week as well so should fancy his chances of cementiing his new world number 3 ranking and really puttting the pressure on Voltage's number 2 spot at the worlds when he is defending £500k on the OOM. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 24, 2019, 01:28:01 PM Price Averaging 109 and up 8-2 right now
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 24, 2019, 05:03:55 PM Semi finals
Mvg v white Price vs dobey Mvg currently 4/5 outright If he plays price in the final, when was the last time mvg was those kind of odds in a single match Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 24, 2019, 09:40:24 PM Not many players start 11/8 vs mvg
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 25, 2019, 08:14:52 PM Could be a tough game for cross first round of worlds vs huybrechts
Price vs o’connor Anderson vs Dolan who’s looked decent this year Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on November 26, 2019, 02:04:14 PM Draw for the worlds is out!!
First thing that jumps out is MVG's 1/4 final route appears about as straight forward as it gets, Ricky Evans is having a good year and Clayton and Bunting have both shown glimpses of utter brilliance this yr but you feel like MVG on C game should find himself in the 1/4s with little or no fuss, his 1/4 final seems almost certainly to be between either James Wade or Ian White, Wade's path to round 4 is fairly hazardless, Edhouse/Kyle round 2, probably Steve Beaton round 3, wuld be a fairly big shock not to see Wadey in the 4th round minimum. Ian White has a little more danger to deal with, Gabriel Clemons is a very dangerous floater and it's likely him or Hopp in the 3rd round, he does seem to have historically had a habbit of messing those types of games up too, but maybe not 2019 Diamond :). Dont see too many shocks coming here, Clemons making the 1/4 would be a shock given he's likely had to turn over Wade and Wright but wouldn't be the most surprising thing to happen given the form of the 3 players this year. Q2 top seed is Gary and his path to the 1/4 final is a little dangerous, Brendan Dolan is a new man in 2019 and could test Gary who we just have no real idea about hit form other than we know he's massively lacking in match sharpness, Steve West and Ryan Searle both the type of characters to randomly turn up and average 100 but he should get through that in a BO9 set play game. his 4th round is almost guarenteed to be a tough game, vs either Nathan Aspinall, Krzystof Ratajski with Jamie Hughes a very dangerous floater in that segment too, if he's struggling Gary then this game could be extremely tough for him, his quarter final if he gets through is probably going to be vs Micheal Smith which will be another very tough game as Bully boy tends to turn up these days vs his old mentor. Smith's 1/8th isn't a complete cake-walk but he should be relatively happy with it, the biggest and most obvious danger is Dimitri who on an Ally Pally stage can beat anyone, however he's so out of sorts this year and on the TV stage too which is usually where he shines, he might even find his 2nd round game vs Payne or Portela a bit of a struggle. Adrian Lewis is defo worth a strong consideration too, as he's been showing a lot more form of late, an on form Jackpot could well be the un-doing of Smith in round 4. Laurence Illagan could be a dangerous floater in this section of the draw too, he should be out-muscled if he runs into Dimitri/Smith/Lewis anywhere near their A-Games but if he has round 1 vs an out of nick Reyes, runs into a struggling Jackpot in round 2, and will have a very winnable feeling game probably vs Darren Webster (who's had a tough year with injury, but seems to be a little better now) he might just sneak himself into the 4th round, I think whoever he plays in round 4 should be playing well enough to see him off but he certainly could cause a few pumping hearts LI. I dont envisage much suprises in Q1, but Q2 with some big names lacking consistency and a few dangerous wild cards we could easily see some nonsense from this section of the draw. Onto the second half, Rob cross, not been in the best of nick lately, but has himself a reasonable draw to his 1/4 final, Kim Huybrechts dropped from towards the back end of the top 40 this year, recently he's shown some good performances but just cant quite find any wins, Steve Lennon & Danny Noppert can cause problems, Joe Cullen at 100% can be very dangerous, but he should be able to find his way through. Bottom half of this quarter's most interesting participant will be RVB, he has a opener he should win easily, and then a very difficult game vs JDZ in the second round, BArney will be bang up for a run here, and he'll be desperately hoping that his career is put to bed in a barnstorming 1/4 final vs Rob Cross, and not a 2nd round 91 average vs JDZ, he can easily make it to the 1/4 finals here, but a 3rd round exit at the hands of Chizzy seems his most likely swansong, if he gets past Chizzy, he probs has a 4th round vs Peter Wright to deal with before a 1/4 final vs Rob Cross, then a semi vs Gerwyn Price before his dream farewell which would be the WC final vs MVG, and this is all assuming he can get past JDZ in round 2! We'd all love to see it, but we very likely won't see it! This quarter for me I think is Chizzy's for the taking, there's plenty of dangerous players knocking about (JDZ, RVB, Keegan, Malicdem a handy player too) and he's likely got to beat Wright in round 4 and Cross in the 1/4s but i just think he's playing a lot better than them right now and I personally don't think these new darts are the ones for PW, Cross seems incapable of stringing 2 decent games together at the moment. If Chizzy keeps his form of the last 3-4 months up I think he gets through this 1/4. If he can get himself a semi final appearance here, to go alongside his WGP final I think that should get him a PL spot, an A-Game vs A-Game world semi final vs Chizzy and Price might be something to savour too! Botton 1/4 and this is a tale of two halves for sure, Gerwyn Price, the man of the moment has the easiest draw to a 1/4 final of anyone I think, Willie O'Connor is a danger man in very good form at the moment, but even with that, there is basically no -one in the bottom 8th of the draw who should cause even a very very average Gerwyn (of 2019) any trouble at all, I think a solid B- game will get him easily to the 1/4 finals this year. Conversely, the top half of Q4 is absolutely littered with troubles - Daryl Gurney the top seed there will have a testy opener vs an in-form Justin Pipe, Duzza will be hoping to play him in rnd 4 but he's going to have another awkward opening fixture vs de Sousa or Damon Heta, both of whom had very good years, his first Ally Pally appearance he might find it a bit emotional Duzza and goign off as a bog fave vs a dangerous underdog coudl lead to some scares for him. Mensur and Dobey (who is having a fantastic year) shouldn't be too much troubled getting to round 3 but Ted Evetts is playing well right now and Ron the Bomb can be lethal sometimes, the bookies would say the most likely 3rd round fixtures will be Duzza/Gurney, Mensur/Dobey and you can pretty much see anyone of those 4 making it through to play Gerwyn in the 1/4 final, whoever it is will set of as a big dog vs GP, exciting 1/4 Q4 for certain! Roll on, Roll on! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on November 26, 2019, 02:38:42 PM I reckon Barney getting smashed vs de Zwaan
Going to see if the odds are out yet for that match They’ve got it as a pick em right now, all in on de zwaan Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on December 15, 2019, 11:43:06 PM Smith
Cross White Barney All out in the first round Suzuki ain’t too bad is she Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on December 15, 2019, 11:48:20 PM Smith Cross White Barney All out in the first round Suzuki ain’t too bad is she I've been saying to a few of my mates for a while that i reckon suzuki is the one who will win a match in the "mens" game at some point over the next 5 years. The fact she came so close tonight makes me think I'm not wrong Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on December 17, 2019, 10:32:42 PM What a great match that was!!!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Doobs on December 21, 2019, 10:28:36 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AlbusFawkes on December 21, 2019, 10:50:42 PM Great finishing from Fallon Sherrock tonight, but shameful booing by the crowd when Mensur was throwing for doubles
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on December 22, 2019, 01:03:18 AM Honestly think nothing wrong with booing
Happens in football and nobody complains ever I could complain that it spurred suljovic on to hit 180s....was all over Sherrock 180s and oche Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on December 23, 2019, 08:09:16 PM What a game this is
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 24, 2019, 09:10:26 PM https://www.paddypower.com/darts/darts-specials
Paddy have priced up PL runners for 2020. Anyone got any views over xmas before we restart on Friday? Some big ricks by Paddy for me. Interested in others views. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on December 24, 2019, 10:07:13 PM Wade has said he ‘hopes he’s not picked’ so he can spend time with his kid. Boring anyway
Would love to see de Zwaan in it. Joke if Sherrock is in I thought ratajski at first looked a big price due to the year he’s had, but not sure how much that matters, another bore, doesn’t hit 180s Suljovic has looked awful for a while, shouldn’t be in Durrant has to be in, people were calling for it earlier this year, they won’t stop Don’t see aspinall in over Durrant I reckon it should be Mvg Wright Anderson Cross Smith Price Chisnall Durrant De Zwaan White But I think gurney will play instead of white, and maybe aspinall instead of de zwaan Maybe Anderson doesn’t play Rambling, what you reckon? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 24, 2019, 11:28:13 PM Your first 6 then Gurney Asp duzza and the highest finishing outsider in the worlds to reach semis or better. If no one does that then probably Chis falls into the last spot.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on December 25, 2019, 02:44:09 PM Your first 6 then Gurney Asp duzza and the highest finishing outsider in the worlds to reach semis or better. If no one does that then probably Chis falls into the last spot. Honestly think Chisnall this year has been class, hope he gets in ahead of gurney. I do want aspinall in there tho. Maybe Chisnall instead of wade Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: HutchGF on December 27, 2019, 09:41:47 AM Durrant at 4/7 is a gift, surely?
Great run at the matchplay and I think he has a decent shot at turning Gurney over and a potential L16 vs Dobey. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 27, 2019, 12:43:17 PM 4/7?
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on December 27, 2019, 02:14:05 PM Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Chompy on December 27, 2019, 03:52:24 PM Dobey taking a dive?
Bound to be mooted if the lovely Fallon gets there. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: SuuPRlim on December 27, 2019, 08:51:03 PM Ian White, on merit and consistency he's a slam dunk deserving of a place, he's got the game for the PL too. Just dont see it happening for the Diamond I'm afraid.
Obviously as top 4 in the OOM are auto in, MVG, Rob Cross and Gerwyn are in, and as these three have near on swept the majors this yr they'll be the easiest three. I dont think it really matters which of Gary, Bully or Snakey end up as #4 I think all 3 of them easily get in anyway, despite none of them having all that stellar a year. Nathan Aspinall as a WSOD winner and the UK Open winner this year would have to be included for me, and Duzza despite no major finals has won tournaments as well as semi finals of the Matchplay, the Grand Slam and the Grand Prix, been thoroughly consistent and has a superstar hype around him as the 3x BDO champ will be unlikely not to be included for me. MVG, Cross, Price, Smith, Anderson, Wright, Aspinall, Duzza - I'd have these as a fairly certain first 8 for now. Next question is how many full time people will there be, 9 or 10, we know there is a least 1 spot open and I think a few people have a solid enough claim on it. The 3 highest ranked players no involved in that list are Gurey #7, Wade #8 and Chizzy #9. For me, Chizzy would be the clear front runner from these 3 players, Gurney and Wade have the advantage of very strong PL campaigns in 2019 in their favour, but Chizzy has had comfortably the best year, and is in comfortably the best form, none of them have done much at all in the last couple of Majors and both out in round 3 of the WC, so there is probably cases for a couple of players in the pack behind to get a spot with a big WC run. Chris Dobey has made 2 major semi's this year and is in the L16 of the WC, his path to the Semi is going to be Duzza then likely Price (not ideal!) but if he pulls off a Semi, or even goes out in a barmstorming 1/4 final vs Gerwyn... could be time for Dobey to get the nod. I don't think de Zwaan has done enough this year without a semi+ at the worlds to justify a mention, same with Ratajski, on merit you'd have to have Ian White in ahead of all those 2. Will they do the contenders again? No idea, the concept last year was players who had never really competed and to give them a shot, if so, will they have a completely fresh set and not include anyone from last year? Los of uncertainty around this - assuming they do it, I think there is a couple of very strong cases; Willie O'Connor in Dublin for week 4 has to be absolutely nailed on. Fallon Sherrock somewhere, probably Liverpool in week 6. Nights 8 and 9 are both in Rotterdam, no idea if they will re-use JDZ but Danny Noppert and Jermaine Wattimena seem excellent candidates. Ricky Evans is so entertaining he'll almost defo be in there, maybe Nottingham week 2. Ryan Searle maybe for Exeter in week 5 after some good late yr form. Joe Cullen really should get a go in this too, Newcastle week 7 I reckon. Jonny Clayton for the Cardiff leg in week 3. Gabriel Clemons, best performing German of 2019 should be included, if there was a German leg pre- judgement night he'd be a cert too, could potentially put him in week #1 in Aberdeen as no obvious Scottish contenders, Kryzstof Ratajski would be another deserving guy, could be another one for Aberdeen. Keegan Brown, Luke Woodhouse Jamie Hughes maybe for exeter. My best prediction would be; (working on assumptions that they do pretenders and dont use anyone who appeared as a contender last year) MVG Price Cross Anderson Smith Wright Aspinall Durrant Chizzy Contenders; Week 1 = Gabriel Clemons Week 2 = Ricky Evans Week 3 = Jonny Clayton Week 4 = Willie O'Connor Week 5 = Ryan Searle Week 6 = Fallon Sherrock Week 7 = Joe Cullen Week 8 = Jermaine Wattimena Week 9 = Danny Noppert If they don't do the contenders, I reckon Dobey gets in there! Tough ones to guess these! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 30, 2019, 02:17:22 AM https://www.pdc.tv/news/2019/12/29/2020-premier-league-feature-challengers
9 plus 9 contenders confirmed for 2020 PL. Same format as last year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on December 30, 2019, 11:35:53 AM Humphries didn’t do a lot wrong against Wright
Is world youth champ Big 180 hitter Get him in the PL! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 31, 2019, 01:38:28 PM BDO World Championship prize money 'reduced somewhat' after poor ticket sales https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/50952382 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 31, 2019, 01:45:34 PM BDO World Championship prize money 'reduced somewhat' after poor ticket sales https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/50952382 That all seems nice and clear then. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on December 31, 2019, 05:31:56 PM Fallon Sherrock: Briton pulls out of BDO Women's Championship https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/50955916 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Marky147 on December 31, 2019, 05:57:09 PM Fallon Sherrock: Briton pulls out of BDO Women's Championship https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/50955916 Can't be a big shock, if she's off printing on the PDC tour next year. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Doobs on December 31, 2019, 09:02:07 PM Fallon Sherrock: Briton pulls out of BDO Women's Championship https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/50955916 Can't be a big shock, if she's off printing on the PDC tour next year. Given they had moved to using her to attract punters over the last few days, then it must have been a surprise to them. The O2 can't be the cheapest big venue around, seems an absolute shambles. It can't be great for the women's game either, given there is no PDC world champs for them. Maybe they will run one next year now? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Juperjiper on January 01, 2020, 10:01:10 PM Chisnall should have been put in the PL over gurney
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Omm on January 02, 2020, 08:54:34 AM Fallon Sherrock: Briton pulls out of BDO Women's Championship https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/50955916 Can't be a big shock, if she's off printing on the PDC tour next year. Given they had moved to using her to attract punters over the last few days, then it must have been a surprise to them. The O2 can't be the cheapest big venue around, seems an absolute shambles. It can't be great for the women's game either, given there is no PDC world champs for them. Maybe they will run one next year now? Think Hearn has always said it’s a level playing field hence why no separate champs for women. Always wondered if there is a reason why a man would be better at darts? Can’t think of anything physically. Maybe just opportunity? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: booder on January 07, 2020, 09:07:17 AM https://twitter.com/HellsBellsy/status/1214188888136261632?s=20
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Longines on January 18, 2020, 10:34:37 AM An interesting read on the PDC Q school:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/51152261 Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: AndrewT on January 18, 2020, 11:52:58 AM Same kind of article, this time in the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jan/18/q-school-pdc-darts-delusions-chaos-chance-new-life-fallon-sherrock Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on January 18, 2020, 12:25:52 PM cheers for posting. I was tempted to flick the £450 in for lols. Think i would have been a fav against a few of the fellow 'chancers' who turned up.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on June 06, 2020, 10:02:37 AM https://www.sporcle.com/games/chrishammer180/players-who-have-knocked-phil-taylor-out-of-tv-majors
Great quiz this for dart fans. Would be amazed if anyone could get the lot. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on December 05, 2020, 06:07:16 PM Shame this thread has seemingly died out, considering the state of darts over the last 12months!
I'm terrible at write ups, but I'll try & put something up for some of the guys I like for the world champs in the next few days. Who does everyone fancy? Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Jamier-Host on January 05, 2021, 10:51:58 PM I quite enjoyed the final. Despite being pretty one sided there was some major twitching and drama in there!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 21, 2021, 12:16:00 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMI5Zqi5hHU
one of the best world finals ever. Jocky did near 95 average over 10 sets in the dark ages with big wired boards. If anyone is bored during lockdown watch this when darts was super big time on national tv before taylor/sky/Mvg/hearn. Proper darts. Jocky finished bristow forever in this final. He never recovered from the pounding Jocky gave him for me. Next year Taylor rocked up as a 150/1 rag and won and changed the game forever in 1990. The general opinion was Taylor finished Bristow but the first five sets of this final finished Eric whilst Phil was still earning peanuts in stoke making toilet chain handles in the pot banks. Eric then sponsored Phil to give him a retirement income moving forward once he knew his reign was over. Jocky was a two time world champion (could easily have won more in an era of proper players) when he spent the entire 1980s as a raving alcoholic. Bristow had won 5 world titles in the 80s going into this but Jocky never cared less about reputations. Such a loss to the game both of them are already brown bread. They lived the life in their era no doubt. How many other multiple world champions can ever say that as a total piss head? Scary how could he could have been sober. Jocky won £20k for winning this. Price got £500k this year for his world title. ps the best bit about the whole final is the inflatable banana (6 foot style) in the crowd which summed up football fans of that era. Man City started the inflatable banana ( i had one as a kid at leicester games) http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2011/3/16/how-the-inflatable-banana-almost-saved-football.html#:~:text=In%201987%2C%20a%20Manchester%20City,morphed%20into%20'Imre%20Banana'. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on February 21, 2021, 12:40:26 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMI5Zqi5hHU one of the best world finals ever. Jocky did near 95 average over 10 sets in the dark ages with big wired boards. If anyone is bored during lockdown watch this when darts was super big time on national tv before taylor/sky/Mvg/hearn. Proper darts. Jocky finished bristow forever in this final. He never recovered from the pounding Jocky gave him for me. Next year Taylor rocked up as a 150/1 rag and won and changed the game forever in 1990. The general opinion was Taylor finished Bristow but the first five sets of this final finished Eric whilst Phil was still earning peanuts in stoke making toilet chain handles in the pot banks. Eric then sponsored Phil to give him a retirement income moving forward once he knew his reign was over. Jocky was a two time world champion (could easily have won more in an era of proper players) when he spent the entire 1980s as a raving alcoholic. Bristow had won 5 world titles in the 80s going into this but Jocky never cared less about reputations. Such a loss to the game both of them are already brown bread. They lived the life in their era no doubt. How many other multiple world champions can ever say that as a total piss head? Scary how could he could have been sober. Jocky won £20k for winning this. Price got £500k this year for his world title. ps the best bit about the whole final is the inflatable banana (6 foot style) in the crowd which summed up football fans of that era. Man City started the inflatable banana ( i had one as a kid at leicester games) http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2011/3/16/how-the-inflatable-banana-almost-saved-football.html#:~:text=In%201987%2C%20a%20Manchester%20City,morphed%20into%20'Imre%20Banana'. That's a terrific post, such memories. Completely unrelated, (though from a similar era maybe?) but there was a Piers Morgan "Life Stories" thing featuring Chris Eubank the other night which made for fabulous TV, what a character he is & what a boxer he was. I am not really into boxing, but his big fight with Nigel Benn was the best & most savage boxing match I've ever seen. Do you have any memory of boxing in those days? I've no idea how he rated as a boxer in global terms, but when it came to a winning pose he was the schizz. (https://i.imgur.com/bY9k0HH.jpg) Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on February 21, 2021, 02:11:12 PM Great memories from a great era for British sport. Late 80s-early 90s across so many sports it was the changing of the guard so to speak from true GOAT contenders
Darts - Bristow to Taylor Snooker - Davis to Hendry/Class of '92 (Ronnie/Higgins/Williams) Football - Liverpool to Fergie and Man U UK athletics was at an all time high for me. Starting with Cram/Coe/Ovett through to Linford/Jackson/Edwards/Gunnell/Backley among many others. The Eubank show was great even though i can't stand Piers Morgan. To answer your question about my first memories of Boxing are from that era. The very first memory is Barry McGuigan purely because my best mate at junior school came from a boxing family and his dad took him Loftus Road! in 1985 for his world title shot that he won. The kid never stopped talking about it at school for days after. After that Bruno v Bugner at White Hart Lane in 1987 is the first fight i can remember watching on Sportsnight i think it was on the bbc. Following on from that i can remember watching the Eubank Collins fight at University in a hotel when we were playing in the University basketball finals in Cardiff. That era of UK middle weights was amazing. Such a different era pre Sky sports. My first darts memory was watching Bristow Deller final in 1983. I can still remember exactly where i watched that. My first snooker memory is the same year and Cliff Thornburn's 147 at the crucible and big Bill coming round from the other table to congratulate him. Went to my first football match live that year as well which wasn't a bad first one. Leicester v Liverpool. Tighty might remember it 3-3 draw some young kid called Lineker scored 2 i think and King Kenny did the same. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Karabiner on February 21, 2021, 03:37:43 PM At a slight tangent, I was watching an old documentary about the 1966 World Cup-winning team and Jimmy Greaves was telling the story of Alf Ramsy and his posh accent. "He used to speak like me until he had elocution lessons" said Jimmy, followed by Alf Ramsey speaking during a TV interview.
If you had your eyes closed Alf Ramsey sounded identical to Chris Eubank - they must have gone to the same elocution school. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: Stevef31 on March 06, 2021, 03:01:17 PM Fella on ITV just called the Ratajski v Razma match an 'ALL Polish and Latvian affair'. Not really sure what the hell that means other than it's a Pole v a Latvian.
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 07, 2021, 10:18:14 PM James wade. Yet another tv major. Back in the top 4. Gets zero respect and he loves it. Not in the Premier league. Married to a walk on girl and looks like he is loving life and couldn't care less. Brutal performance today across three games. 10 tv majors now for him whilst playing across the peaks of the two greatest to ever play the game. Destroyed the world champ and world number one in the semi. He will told he had a soft first timer who bounced in the final even though wade averaged 103!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_UK_Open Was 66/1 pre event with stan james! of course i had a bit on! You will struggle to watch a better 8 hours of darts combined then you did today on itv. Not sure if itvhub lets you watch it on delay. If so do watch it. Every game was top class. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on March 07, 2021, 10:54:33 PM unibet will always be called stan james fwiw!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on March 08, 2021, 03:34:06 AM Lots of games were top draw & I think it shows just how much the field has closed in on the top 4/8 players. Tournys these days feel like quite a few have a chance at winning it, or at least it's not going to be a walk to the final for the 'big' boys
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on March 08, 2021, 03:37:51 AM Was 66/1 pre event with stan james! of course i had a bit on! ;bigadz; ;bigadz; ;bigadz; ;bigadz; Also just in keeping with traditions i feel Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 07, 2021, 10:54:08 AM https://en.calameo.com/read/0003624653eb38a6183b5
It's that time of year again and Tikay's mob have kindly sponsored this great preview to the event. Well worth a read. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on December 10, 2021, 02:54:48 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtDoPFHuZbk
Incase you never saw the former world champ Peter 'Snakebite' Wright in his much younger days when he was a tyre fitter in 1995. The swagger was there even that far back. An equally young Gary Anderson in the crowd cheering on his fellow Scot. Classic video. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on June 16, 2023, 10:47:01 PM https://www.pdc.tv/news/2023/06/16/fallon-sherrock-awarded-mbe-2023-kings-birthday-honours
April 1st is very late this year. God bless the King. He clearly likes blondes! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: arbboy on June 16, 2023, 11:34:31 PM An interesting read on the PDC Q school: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/51152261 Looking back 3.5 years this picture now has a lady with an mbe and a close look in the background one of the players went through q school and won a PDC tv major this year at Butlins. There is hope for the builders and warehouse workers yet it seems. Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on January 03, 2024, 02:40:57 PM What a story for Luke Littler!
Been a great WC this year & even though the draw opened up massively for Littler, he still managed to do the business against Cross in the semis. I think Humphries is different gravy though & surely the enormity of a world final will weigh heavy on both. Either way, will be fascinating viewing tonight! Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: bunnydas8888 on January 20, 2024, 03:40:56 PM Didn't take young Littler very long to win his first title!
Title: Re: Darts Betting and discussion Post by: tikay on January 20, 2024, 05:25:05 PM The kid is a freak of nature. What a life lies ahead of him if he keeps his nose clean. |