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Title: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on January 31, 2013, 09:48:13 AM
Thank you to Rich for allowing me to post this and apologies for the spam.

Some of you might find this interesting:

Betting Emporium is an exciting new football and sports tipping website on it's way soon.

http://www.bettingemporium.com/

Cheers,

Joe


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on January 31, 2013, 09:52:18 AM

Morning Joe, I've signed up this morning.

Good luck with this.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on January 31, 2013, 09:52:41 AM
Good luck Joe and Neil with this.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: smashedagain on January 31, 2013, 11:34:52 AM
Best of luck guys.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: kinboshi on January 31, 2013, 12:25:54 PM
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc43/kinboshi/neil_zps248b1d0b.png)

:)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on January 31, 2013, 01:01:26 PM
Savage, boshi!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on January 31, 2013, 01:02:59 PM
best of luck with this


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: DaveShoelace on January 31, 2013, 01:07:48 PM
Will be interested to see how this turns out, no doubt two of the good guys of poker making a dream team of tipping.

Is there anything majorly unique about this service Joe, or is it just because you both are going to be good at it?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on January 31, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Looking forward to hopefully being able to mend my Cornetto like tendencies further :)

Best of luck gents!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: The Camel on January 31, 2013, 05:42:11 PM
Think I'll be sticking to Tips for Tikay.

But best of luck anyway.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: RWilson58 on February 02, 2013, 07:03:10 PM
I notice the website is claiming a 60% strike rate and has been profitable for 4 successive years. What is the average price taken? A 60% strike rate isn't much use if you are betting 1/2 shots. What is the ROI? Stating that you have been profitable is a bit vague. Also, is this record verified by anyone or a list of past bets viewable?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redarmi on February 02, 2013, 07:59:11 PM
Would be interested to hear some more details on this. I once dipped my toe into the tipping world and it is a very difficult thing to get right.  Anyone can tip darts winners with Skybet or horses with Stan James but that doesn't really provide any kind of a service in terms of delivering financial gains to the clientele and, of course, tipping winners at Betfair prices or Asian market prices is much harder and whilst do-able will never provide headline grabbing ROI figures.  Also the best way to grow a bank is to have a LOT of bets but tipster clients tend not to like too many bets.......Good luck with it and I actually do subscribe to a few services myself so if you could provide more details I might be ionterested if it suits the profile I am looking for.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Nico29 on February 02, 2013, 08:52:47 PM
Really like the look of this.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Karabiner on February 02, 2013, 11:18:58 PM
Interested to hear the answers to some of the questions already posted.

I too have subscribed previously so am a potential client.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 03, 2013, 10:55:52 AM
I notice the website is claiming a 60% strike rate and has been profitable for 4 successive years. What is the average price taken? A 60% strike rate isn't much use if you are betting 1/2 shots. What is the ROI? Stating that you have been profitable is a bit vague. Also, is this record verified by anyone or a list of past bets viewable?

Thank you for showing an interest in Bettingemporium.com. As you are such a well established poster I am of course happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have.  :)

At the moment the website is just a single page. Once the site itself is launched all selections, Betfair prices and historic bets will be on the site. Up until now only a very select few have had access to selections. We are going to change that. Even though it has been profitable in the past there is no guarantee that it will be profitable in the future.

The football over 2.5 bets will be on the site when it launches fully but that is only a small part of it. There are lots of plans and ideas that will be brought in over time. We are quite excited by it.

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on February 03, 2013, 11:55:54 AM
Would be interested to hear some more details on this. I once dipped my toe into the tipping world and it is a very difficult thing to get right.  Anyone can tip darts winners with Skybet or horses with Stan James but that doesn't really provide any kind of a service in terms of delivering financial gains to the clientele and, of course, tipping winners at Betfair prices or Asian market prices is much harder and whilst do-able will never provide headline grabbing ROI figures.  Also the best way to grow a bank is to have a LOT of bets but tipster clients tend not to like too many bets.......Good luck with it and I actually do subscribe to a few services myself so if you could provide more details I might be ionterested if it suits the profile I am looking for.

agree with all of this

A few reasons why it is difficult even if you are profitable (which i am sure this site has and will continue to be)

Any tipping service will attract a large percentage of punters who bet regularly on anything and are used to losing.

Even when providing winners the client will most likely in my experience still be betting and probably losing with there own bets.

Client will fairly quickly decide can do without the winners you are providing in exchange for being able to afford a few more random punts.

I ran a very small football tipping service 8 or so years ago. I gave up after a year despite a good record due to constant abusive emails after a loser. The benefit unless you have a massive advertising budget and a constant stream of clients is very negligible in my opinion.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: adnmdv on February 03, 2013, 01:00:42 PM
I notice the website is claiming a 60% strike rate and has been profitable for 4 successive years. What is the average price taken? A 60% strike rate isn't much use if you are betting 1/2 shots. What is the ROI? Stating that you have been profitable is a bit vague. Also, is this record verified by anyone or a list of past bets viewable?

Thank you for showing an interest in Bettingemporium.com. As you are such a well established poster I am of course happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have.  :)

At the moment the website is just a single page. Once the site itself is launched all selections, Betfair prices and historic bets will be on the site. Up until now only a very select few have had access to selections. We are going to change that. Even though it has been profitable in the past there is no guarantee that it will be profitable in the future.

The football over 2.5 bets will be on the site when it launches fully but that is only a small part of it. There are lots of plans and ideas that will be brought in over time. We are quite excited by it.

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Will you be surfacing your selections versus the closing line where possible? At that sort of sample size, ROI isn't a particularly accurate measure of success. Your website says you've been profitable in that market for 4yrs, is the 60% strike-rate/13% ROI within that same sample? How profitable would you expect to be going forward?

Can you also clarify what you mean by 'average Betfair prices' - do you simply mean the ave. odds you are getting matched at or something else?

edit: Also interested in the answer to RWilson's question below. Admittedly I'm just guessing as to the size of the tipster market but I'd always assumed that in general, it would be more profitable to bet your own selections in bigger size/commit more time to betting that market if it's something as big as Premiership over/unders, rather than spending time+money on a tipster service.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: pleno1 on February 03, 2013, 01:04:15 PM
sorry if ive missed this, but how are you monetizing this?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redarmi on February 03, 2013, 01:30:56 PM
sorry if ive missed this, but how are you monetizing this?

Presumably by charging a subscription fee like all other tipsters?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on February 03, 2013, 01:33:21 PM
sorry if ive missed this, but how are you monetizing this?

Presumably by charging a subscription fee like all other tipsters?

...and/or the Affiliate route.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: RWilson58 on February 03, 2013, 02:36:29 PM

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Thanks for taking the time to reply. If your betting is as profitable on Betfair as you suggest why would you start a tipping service?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: The Camel on February 03, 2013, 02:41:19 PM
I notice the website is claiming a 60% strike rate and has been profitable for 4 successive years. What is the average price taken? A 60% strike rate isn't much use if you are betting 1/2 shots. What is the ROI? Stating that you have been profitable is a bit vague. Also, is this record verified by anyone or a list of past bets viewable?

Thank you for showing an interest in Bettingemporium.com. As you are such a well established poster I am of course happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have.  :)

At the moment the website is just a single page. Once the site itself is launched all selections, Betfair prices and historic bets will be on the site. Up until now only a very select few have had access to selections. We are going to change that. Even though it has been profitable in the past there is no guarantee that it will be profitable in the future.

The football over 2.5 bets will be on the site when it launches fully but that is only a small part of it. There are lots of plans and ideas that will be brought in over time. We are quite excited by it.

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Will you be surfacing your selections versus the closing line where possible? At that sort of sample size, ROI isn't a particularly accurate measure of success. How profitable would you expect to be going forward?

Can you also clarify what you mean by 'average Betfair prices' - do you simply mean the ave. odds you are getting matched at or something else?

Welcome back to Blondepoker Mr Adnmdv.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 03, 2013, 11:00:35 PM

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Thanks for taking the time to reply. If your betting is as profitable on Betfair as you suggest why would you start a tipping service?



I don't see these as mutually exclusive.  :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 03, 2013, 11:16:22 PM
I notice the website is claiming a 60% strike rate and has been profitable for 4 successive years. What is the average price taken? A 60% strike rate isn't much use if you are betting 1/2 shots. What is the ROI? Stating that you have been profitable is a bit vague. Also, is this record verified by anyone or a list of past bets viewable?

Thank you for showing an interest in Bettingemporium.com. As you are such a well established poster I am of course happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have.  :)

At the moment the website is just a single page. Once the site itself is launched all selections, Betfair prices and historic bets will be on the site. Up until now only a very select few have had access to selections. We are going to change that. Even though it has been profitable in the past there is no guarantee that it will be profitable in the future.

The football over 2.5 bets will be on the site when it launches fully but that is only a small part of it. There are lots of plans and ideas that will be brought in over time. We are quite excited by it.

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Will you be surfacing your selections versus the closing line where possible? At that sort of sample size, ROI isn't a particularly accurate measure of success. Your website says you've been profitable in that market for 4yrs, is the 60% strike-rate/13% ROI within that same sample? How profitable would you expect to be going forward?

Can you also clarify what you mean by 'average Betfair prices' - do you simply mean the ave. odds you are getting matched at or something else?

edit: Also interested in the answer to RWilson's question below. Admittedly I'm just guessing as to the size of the tipster market but I'd always assumed that in general, it would be more profitable to bet your own selections in bigger size/commit more time to betting that market if it's something as big as Premiership over/unders, rather than spending time+money on a tipster service.

We will be posting our selections in good time before the events. Sometimes that may be on a Monday for the Saturday and sometimes on the Friday or even Saturday morning. The stats for each of the last four seasons are scarily similar. We would be happy if this continues.

'Average Betfair prices' are nothing to do with what bets we get. It is the average price each £1 has been matched at on that particular market - so all prices matched averaged by amounts matched at those prices. We obviously try to beat the average price and we often do.

The best price is not always on Betfair but we chose Betfair as it is easier to work with just one set of prices. Betfair are often the best price (after commission) but not always and sometimes we bet with bookmakers or other exchanges too.

The over bets, as I said previously, will only be a small part of what we are doing. As I replied to RWilson we don't see running this site and betting as mutually exclusive at all.

There are a number of reasons and benefits for this venture and not all are financial, there are personal reasons too.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 03, 2013, 11:20:23 PM
sorry if ive missed this, but how are you monetizing this?

Initially we intend that everything will be free. Moving forward some will be free and there will be some things that users will have an option to subscribe to. There will also be various partnerships or affiliations.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: adnmdv on February 03, 2013, 11:37:24 PM
Thanks for the reply.

To clarify though,

Quote
We will be posting our selections in good time before the events. Sometimes that may be on a Monday for the Saturday and sometimes on the Friday or even Saturday morning. The stats for each of the last four seasons are scarily similar. We would be happy if this continues.
Quote
'Average Betfair prices' are nothing to do with what bets we get. It is the average price each £1 has been matched at on that particular market - so all prices matched averaged by amounts matched at those prices. We obviously try to beat the average price and we often do.

Do you have historic records for the closing prices in Asia for your bets or just the p/l? Issue being that closing line is generally the better measure of performance than p/l until the sample gets very large and the average BF price will be a lot less efficient on average than the Asia closing line.

Sorry, but I am skeptical if you're suggesting you're beating Premiership ou markets for ~13% ROI consistently every season - that would probably elevate you guys above THE very best out there like Tony Bloom! Wouldn't that sort of record suggest you could also easily beat other leagues (given that the Premiership is one of the toughest) and make it trivially 'easy' to make so much money to dwarf anything you'd earn from a tipster service many times over? (although you say that it's not being setup purely for financial reasons)

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The best price is not always on Betfair but we chose Betfair as it is easier to work with just one set of prices. Betfair are often the best price (after commission) but not always and sometimes we bet with bookmakers or other exchanges too.

Is this definitely the case (for these markets)? If individual bookies are betting to a 2.5% or so over-round and there's 3-4 different sets of Asia prices, it seems unlikely that Betfair will be often best price! Indeed if you look at the closing ou2.5 prices for the Premiership this past weekend, Betfair was never best price after 5% comm. Though, if anything, referring to Betfair prices would deflate your record.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: The Camel on February 04, 2013, 04:44:23 AM
I notice the website is claiming a 60% strike rate and has been profitable for 4 successive years. What is the average price taken? A 60% strike rate isn't much use if you are betting 1/2 shots. What is the ROI? Stating that you have been profitable is a bit vague. Also, is this record verified by anyone or a list of past bets viewable?

Thank you for showing an interest in Bettingemporium.com. As you are such a well established poster I am of course happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have.  :)

At the moment the website is just a single page. Once the site itself is launched all selections, Betfair prices and historic bets will be on the site. Up until now only a very select few have had access to selections. We are going to change that. Even though it has been profitable in the past there is no guarantee that it will be profitable in the future.

The football over 2.5 bets will be on the site when it launches fully but that is only a small part of it. There are lots of plans and ideas that will be brought in over time. We are quite excited by it.

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Will you be surfacing your selections versus the closing line where possible? At that sort of sample size, ROI isn't a particularly accurate measure of success. Your website says you've been profitable in that market for 4yrs, is the 60% strike-rate/13% ROI within that same sample? How profitable would you expect to be going forward?

Can you also clarify what you mean by 'average Betfair prices' - do you simply mean the ave. odds you are getting matched at or something else?

edit: Also interested in the answer to RWilson's question below. Admittedly I'm just guessing as to the size of the tipster market but I'd always assumed that in general, it would be more profitable to bet your own selections in bigger size/commit more time to betting that market if it's something as big as Premiership over/unders, rather than spending time+money on a tipster service.

We will be posting our selections in good time before the events. Sometimes that may be on a Monday for the Saturday and sometimes on the Friday or even Saturday morning. The stats for each of the last four seasons are scarily similar. We would be happy if this continues.

'Average Betfair prices' are nothing to do with what bets we get. It is the average price each £1 has been matched at on that particular market - so all prices matched averaged by amounts matched at those prices. We obviously try to beat the average price and we often do.

The best price is not always on Betfair but we chose Betfair as it is easier to work with just one set of prices. Betfair are often the best price (after commission) but not always and sometimes we bet with bookmakers or other exchanges too.

The over bets, as I said previously, will only be a small part of what we are doing. As I replied to RWilson we don't see running this site and betting as mutually exclusive at all.

There are a number of reasons and benefits for this venture and not all are financial, there are personal reasons too.

Hi Joe, must say I've never heard of "average Betfair price" before.

Isn't a better measure is closing Betfair price?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 04, 2013, 02:31:21 PM
I notice the website is claiming a 60% strike rate and has been profitable for 4 successive years. What is the average price taken? A 60% strike rate isn't much use if you are betting 1/2 shots. What is the ROI? Stating that you have been profitable is a bit vague. Also, is this record verified by anyone or a list of past bets viewable?

Thank you for showing an interest in Bettingemporium.com. As you are such a well established poster I am of course happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have.  :)

At the moment the website is just a single page. Once the site itself is launched all selections, Betfair prices and historic bets will be on the site. Up until now only a very select few have had access to selections. We are going to change that. Even though it has been profitable in the past there is no guarantee that it will be profitable in the future.

The football over 2.5 bets will be on the site when it launches fully but that is only a small part of it. There are lots of plans and ideas that will be brought in over time. We are quite excited by it.

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Will you be surfacing your selections versus the closing line where possible? At that sort of sample size, ROI isn't a particularly accurate measure of success. Your website says you've been profitable in that market for 4yrs, is the 60% strike-rate/13% ROI within that same sample? How profitable would you expect to be going forward?

Can you also clarify what you mean by 'average Betfair prices' - do you simply mean the ave. odds you are getting matched at or something else?

edit: Also interested in the answer to RWilson's question below. Admittedly I'm just guessing as to the size of the tipster market but I'd always assumed that in general, it would be more profitable to bet your own selections in bigger size/commit more time to betting that market if it's something as big as Premiership over/unders, rather than spending time+money on a tipster service.

We will be posting our selections in good time before the events. Sometimes that may be on a Monday for the Saturday and sometimes on the Friday or even Saturday morning. The stats for each of the last four seasons are scarily similar. We would be happy if this continues.

'Average Betfair prices' are nothing to do with what bets we get. It is the average price each £1 has been matched at on that particular market - so all prices matched averaged by amounts matched at those prices. We obviously try to beat the average price and we often do.

The best price is not always on Betfair but we chose Betfair as it is easier to work with just one set of prices. Betfair are often the best price (after commission) but not always and sometimes we bet with bookmakers or other exchanges too.

The over bets, as I said previously, will only be a small part of what we are doing. As I replied to RWilson we don't see running this site and betting as mutually exclusive at all.

There are a number of reasons and benefits for this venture and not all are financial, there are personal reasons too.

Hi Joe, must say I've never heard of "average Betfair price" before.

Isn't a better measure is closing Betfair price?


Maybe, I guess it's just opinion. I don't see why it's a better measure than the average of each £1 matched. I mean, and I know it's a silly example, if £1,000,000 was matched at 2.0 and £10 at 2.5 at the close which would be a better indicator? I don't suppose it matters providing it is explained and you know you are looking at apples and not bananas.  :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 04, 2013, 02:37:06 PM
Thanks for the reply.

To clarify though,

Quote
We will be posting our selections in good time before the events. Sometimes that may be on a Monday for the Saturday and sometimes on the Friday or even Saturday morning. The stats for each of the last four seasons are scarily similar. We would be happy if this continues.
Quote
'Average Betfair prices' are nothing to do with what bets we get. It is the average price each £1 has been matched at on that particular market - so all prices matched averaged by amounts matched at those prices. We obviously try to beat the average price and we often do.

Do you have historic records for the closing prices in Asia for your bets or just the p/l? Issue being that closing line is generally the better measure of performance than p/l until the sample gets very large and the average BF price will be a lot less efficient on average than the Asia closing line.

Sorry, but I am skeptical if you're suggesting you're beating Premiership ou markets for ~13% ROI consistently every season - that would probably elevate you guys above THE very best out there like Tony Bloom! Wouldn't that sort of record suggest you could also easily beat other leagues (given that the Premiership is one of the toughest) and make it trivially 'easy' to make so much money to dwarf anything you'd earn from a tipster service many times over? (although you say that it's not being setup purely for financial reasons)

Quote
The best price is not always on Betfair but we chose Betfair as it is easier to work with just one set of prices. Betfair are often the best price (after commission) but not always and sometimes we bet with bookmakers or other exchanges too.

Is this definitely the case (for these markets)? If individual bookies are betting to a 2.5% or so over-round and there's 3-4 different sets of Asia prices, it seems unlikely that Betfair will be often best price! Indeed if you look at the closing ou2.5 prices for the Premiership this past weekend, Betfair was never best price after 5% comm. Though, if anything, referring to Betfair prices would deflate your record.

I have just been reading some of your posts in other threads, you are quite an interesting chap.

Would you mind telling me who you are, you real name and your experience? I would be interested to know where you work. Have you ever worked for Tony? He is a very good friend of ours.

You make lots of assertions and assumptions in your posts and I don't necessarily agree with them all.

The truth is that most people don't have access to Asian markets. On this project we are using exchanges and the typical 20 or so bookmakers that you will find on the UK comparison websites. What I have written is our experiences in how we are proceeding and have done so far. It is fair to be sceptical. I am always sceptical if someone claims to be able to make money gambling. I would like to hope though that Neil and I are quite well known in the community and others can make there own judgement.

Our current ROI may well be high, it may well be variance. We are however having fun and making a profit and we hope to share that with our users.

This is not some kind of get rich quick scheme for anyone. We have already said that initial selections will not be subscription based. If you are as interested as you seem here then come along for the ride. I'm not asking you to bet the selections, just watch and let's see what happens.

Bettingemporium has LOTS of ideas that users will like. We hope to continue to have fun and make some money too.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: adnmdv on February 04, 2013, 03:56:28 PM
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Maybe, I guess it's just opinion. I don't see why it's a better measure than the average of each £1 matched. I mean, and I know it's a silly example, if £1,000,000 was matched at 2.0 and £10 at 2.5 at the close which would be a better indicator? I don't suppose it matters providing it is explained and you know you are looking at apples and not bananas.  

That's an example though that wouldn't actually occur since the Premiership OU markets are such high liquidity. Problem is you're 'contaminating' the accuracy of the price by factoring in prices a bet was matched at when all team news info was not available and before the biggest/best bettors place their bets (given that Betfair largely tracks Asia rather than the other way around). It definitely matters what measure you're using if that's how you're measuring your success.

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You make lots of assertions and assumptions in your posts and I don't necessarily agree with them all.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting this venture is a scam if that's what you think I mean, I just think your stats are potentially misleading, intentionally or unintentionally, by quoting a 60% strike rate on a small sample size. If you've got good records vs the closer then it's very impressive whereas if you're losing to the closer, not so much. Comparing them vs the average BF price is 100% not the way to go. Until you release the records along with the website launch it's perhaps best to refrain from judging completely but using average BF price as your measure doesn't seem right to me!

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The truth is that most people don't have access to Asian markets. On this project we are using exchanges and the typical 20 or so bookmakers that you will find on the UK comparison websites.

That's not true. Anyone in the UK can just setup a SBO or Pinnacle account. There's also several bookies which mirror IBC prices where you can open accounts without agents. For your target audience this would be more than enough.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 12, 2013, 08:33:38 AM
 I must admit, I didn't think of average price matched as a thing. I am on Betfair way more than is healthy for a young chap and I'm very much in the dark about a lot of the workings of "the machine" and what historical data you can extract.

 I do actually know the best way to measure how the gambling is going...

...if you just look in your bank account, it normally gives a pretty fair reflection.

 Joe told me a couple of years ago he was working on something in football. Since then he has told me a little more about it. It sounds interesting, I believe him when he shows me the spreadsheet he has saying how much he has won because I trust him and he's a good guy who has been around gambling a long time.

 I have been working hard on Black Belt Poker for a few years now and one thing I learned early on is that every single person in the universe is not your potential customer base. There will be people in the world who are not suited to the product or service that you are offering, they won't benefit from it, they may not see the value in it, they may not be able to afford it and there will be people in the world you don't really want to sell to, they may be difficult to deal with, they may want things that you aren't selling, the product may not be for them.

 I learned to accept that early. It seems that there may be some people in the thread who are slightly cynical and who really aren't too interested in betting on other people's suggestions. I find a lot of people are much happier picking their own bets out - that is part of the fun of it.

 My advice to anyone like that is to not spend too much of your valuable time pouring scorn on what we are trying to do. If it's not for you, that's fine, go on with your business and we'll try and live without you.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 12, 2013, 08:37:59 AM
 For anyone who is interested, then join the club...I don't really know what we are going to do either.

 Joe has a website, a software developer, some sofware he has developed already, a public persona, a database of gamblers and an interest in winning money. He knows that I have a few of those things too and he thought maybe we could link up and make something interesting happen.

 I think it's fair to say that neither of us know what that interesting thing is going to be and the day after he told me what he was thinking I flew to Australia and I haven't spoken to him since.

 For now, we are having a think about something we may do quite soon.

 If you like gambling, you are interested in making money, you think we are Ok blokes who aren't out to con anyone and you want to have fun along the way then feel free to put in your email.

 If those things don't apply to you then feel free to leave us alone.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2013, 09:00:15 AM
Love the final paras of both those Posts.

Like both of you, I have spent a long time working for, or with, Online Poker Sites & Forums.

Many people do not like the Forums, or software, or poker site, or whatever, & chase me up hill & down dale abusing me, &/or the Product.

There is a HUGE choice out there.

And I am not allowed to say, but I cannot help but think........

Guys, if you don't like my wares.......

The world of Online is a VERY odd place.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: adnmdv on February 12, 2013, 03:33:01 PM
I must admit, I didn't think of average price matched as a thing. I am on Betfair way more than is healthy for a young chap and I'm very much in the dark about a lot of the workings of "the machine" and what historical data you can extract.

You can get pretty much every price matched, at what time, at what price, for what volume using their historical data service. I just don't understand there why you'd use average price rather than closing price (given that both are available to you).

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I do actually know the best way to measure how the gambling is going...

...if you just look in your bank account, it normally gives a pretty fair reflection.

In a large enough sample yes, but over ~100 bets? It's not that ~100 bets isn't enough to determine your edge, it's that you can't determine your edge from results - any look at a binomial calculator will show you this. I'm not disbelieving that £X has been made up to this point, I'm just in doubt as to whether that's likely to be anywhere near the rate of return in the future. Using it as your headline on your website suggests that, yes, you think it will be.

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I learned to accept that early. It seems that there may be some people in the thread who are slightly cynical and who really aren't too interested in betting on other people's suggestions. I find a lot of people are much happier picking their own bets out - that is part of the fun of it.

In general there's good reason to be cynical about tipster services. They could be good but much more often than not, aren't. Asking questions about is the way to try and find out. As you can probably tell, I'm not likely to sign up to this, it's obviously not for me. The reason why I'm still posting though is that I feel you might end up misleading people by using 'average Betfair' measures and such.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Nico29 on February 12, 2013, 06:08:43 PM
Above poster seems to either troll* for a living or just be on a crusade to tell ppl they are wrong.

Not just itt either.


It's always you are wrong, this aint right, you can't say this, meh, meh, meh.

Yeah they are clearly articulate and intelligent, but they are also stringing out/demanding every last drop of explanation constantly over anything they can't comprehend fully.

It's like a baby wanting something from its parent and then screaming the house down when they aren't given it.

Makes my head hurt.

Sighs.

*Yeah i know it now looks like i'm trolling them, i'm really not- just thoroughly exhausted from reading their posts.

I've nothing to do with the venture, yet am excited by the potential of it and just don't know why some have to always find fault over nothing.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: The Camel on February 12, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
Above poster seems to either troll* for a living or just be on a crusade to tell ppl they are wrong.

Not just itt either.


It's always you are wrong, this aint right, you can't say this, meh, meh, meh.

Yeah they are clearly articulate and intelligent, but they are also stringing out/demanding every last drop of explanation constantly over anything they can't comprehend fully.

It's like a baby wanting something from its parent and then screaming the house down when they aren't given it.

Makes my head hurt.

Sighs.

*Yeah i know it now looks like i'm trolling them, i'm really not- just thoroughly exhausted from reading their posts.

I've nothing to do with the venture, yet am excited by the potential of it and just don't know why some have to always find fault over nothing.

To be fair to admdv, imo his posts (apart from the ones on this thread) have been a lot more useful and have actually been a positive contribution to the various topics than they were prior to his sabbatical.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: action man on February 12, 2013, 07:54:18 PM
we already lost a sharpy in arbboy when he was accused of trolling in blatchgate,
He is clearly as knowledable as they come. I see no ulterior motive in this. Trust me when someone like adnmdv talks about sports betting, we should all listen


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: EvilPie on February 12, 2013, 08:26:24 PM

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Thanks for taking the time to reply. If your betting is as profitable on Betfair as you suggest why would you start a tipping service?



I don't see these as mutually exclusive.  :)

Sorry for appearing cynical but I really don't get this. As it's about gambling on betfair you'd have no problem at all getting as much money as you want on at the price you think is value.

The only reason for giving this info away would be if you can't fund the bets yourself. I doubt this is an issue so why offer this service?

I'm not deliberately trying to flame here I just don't get it.

I can understand tipping services that recommend prices with other bookies as the tipsters can't get their own bets on so give the tips in return for a subscription fee. With betfair though it makes no sense to me at all.

Maybe I'm just being stupid.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Nico29 on February 12, 2013, 10:08:57 PM
we already lost a sharpy in arbboy when he was accused of trolling in blatchgate,
He is clearly as knowledable as they come. I see no ulterior motive in this. Trust me when someone like adnmdv talks about sports betting, we should all listen

Totally disagree with you, just because someone is 'sharp' doesn't mean they need to be so damn rude.

Admv is only interested in pointing out everything that's 'wrong'-I see very little positives in his musings, he'd argue over the toss of a coin for days.

Yes arrboy did one great thing, yet he milked it for every last drop, and wouldn't ever, ever, everrrr......let the thing go.

And from having played poker with him online years back, i know how this was completely consistent with his online persona when he used to behave atrociously in the chatbox.

Met him irl and thought he seemed fine, maybe just a keyboard warrior, I dunno.

Still glad he doesn't post here with his 'style' of writing.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Nico29 on February 12, 2013, 10:16:04 PM
Above poster seems to either troll* for a living or just be on a crusade to tell ppl they are wrong.

Not just itt either.


It's always you are wrong, this aint right, you can't say this, meh, meh, meh.

Yeah they are clearly articulate and intelligent, but they are also stringing out/demanding every last drop of explanation constantly over anything they can't comprehend fully.

It's like a baby wanting something from its parent and then screaming the house down when they aren't given it.

Makes my head hurt.

Sighs.

*Yeah i know it now looks like i'm trolling them, i'm really not- just thoroughly exhausted from reading their posts.

I've nothing to do with the venture, yet am excited by the potential of it and just don't know why some have to always find fault over nothing.

To be fair to admdv, imo his posts (apart from the ones on this thread) have been a lot more useful and have actually been a positive contribution to the various topics than they were prior to his sabbatical.


Maybe i've missed this and if so I can only apologise, I just speak from witnessing his constant crit in tips for tikay pre sab and now itt.

Dunno why I care tbh, i'll let others smarter debate this while I stick to doing my nuts backing scots football teams in europe. :(


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: action man on February 12, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
i dont see it as rude, more friendly debate


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Nico29 on February 12, 2013, 10:30:15 PM
i dont see it as rude, more friendly debate

fair enough


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 13, 2013, 08:21:34 AM

I don't really want to post a load of figures on here (because I want you to come to the site to look at them all obviously  ;) ) but so far this season (to Jan 20th) there have been 107 over 2.5 bets with 67 winners and at average Betfair prices and a 5% commission it is showing over £1400 profit to a level £100 stake and we are very happy with that. It's not sexy, no 10/1 winners here, it's a bit of boring number crunching but it has been profitable and we hope that it will continue to be.





Thanks for taking the time to reply. If your betting is as profitable on Betfair as you suggest why would you start a tipping service?



I don't see these as mutually exclusive.  :)

Sorry for appearing cynical but I really don't get this. As it's about gambling on betfair you'd have no problem at all getting as much money as you want on at the price you think is value.

The only reason for giving this info away would be if you can't fund the bets yourself. I doubt this is an issue so why offer this service?

I'm not deliberately trying to flame here I just don't get it.

I can understand tipping services that recommend prices with other bookies as the tipsters can't get their own bets on so give the tips in return for a subscription fee. With betfair though it makes no sense to me at all.

Maybe I'm just being stupid.


Hi Evilpie,

You are not being stupid, I have already said that I am always cynical any time someone claims to make a profit gambling,  I have been around for a while ;-)

I realise that you're not flaming. I'll do my best to explain.

I'm not sure why you would think 'that' the only reason for 'giving this info away' though. There are many reasons.

I don't want to give away our whole business plan (most of which is still up for discussion anyway) but there are many advantages that Neil and I have doing this over two randoms. The biggest cost in an exercise like this is marketing. Neil and I have that covered in spades and it will cost us very little if anything. There are other advantages in that we may get to work with others who we can learn from and profit from too. We hope to bring more people on board at some point. The bets that are being discussed on here are only going to be a small part of the whole thing.

We want to build the site and the brand 'BettingEmporium' - what better way to do that than to tip some winners and to get people talking?

Of course I back my own selections but within my bankroll. I don't see why the site and betting the selections are mutually exclusive as I have said. These particular markets are pretty efficient and liquid.

We hope to have some fun too.

Joe


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 17, 2013, 07:44:18 AM
 Anyone pointing out that around 100 bets is not a big enough sample size to test conclusively whether a system that is winning betting things at roughly evs works is correct. As it happens Joe has been doing this for a while, (more than 100 bets), he just used that as an example. He is a fairly cautious guy, (extremely so for a pro-gambler), and he tested his theories out over many seasons before he bet a carrot, so I know the sample is larger. He just chose to mention this season as he's upped his stakes and is taking it very seriously.

 I would also say that Phil Ivey has probably played less than 1000 poker tournaments in his life. That is absolutely nowhere near enough to know if he is profitable at playing poker tournaments.

 If Phil Ivey asked me to stake him in a tournament I would do so, because I have watched him play poker, I have played poker with hi and I've seen how he operates.

 I decided that I liked Joe's chances of winning in a similar way.

 If you choose not to see it that way, then fine, no problem. It is possible this thing may not be for you.

 I am slightly confused though ADMDV. Are you saying Joe and I have come here to deliberately mislead people? Do you believe our business will be some sort of scam and you are here to defend everyone against us, despite the fact we haven't really said what our business will do? Do you believe that we should give away all details of our plans to you just because you demand to know how we plan to operate, even though you have zero intention of becoming a customer?

 Are you some sort of guardian of the internet looking to defend the little man against exploitation and protect the world from criminal masterminds?

 Couldn't you find some bankers, fraudsters, politicians or sportsmen to go after instead of two poker players who are just trying to start a little project which might men they have a little fun and possibly, (it isn't a fucking crime you know), make some money?

 Seriously, why do you care?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 17, 2013, 07:52:25 AM
 To answer EvilPie...

 Joe bets on football every week and has done for many years. He sometimes pops-up with a bet on poker, snooker, special bets etc and I have found him over the years to be a good judge who I would rather be with than against.

 He tends to bet in stakes I would say are large for the man-on-the-street but not massive for a pro-punter. He does OK and presumably he is happy with the size of his bets.

 He could I guess bet bigger. His losing runs, (everyone has them), be more stressful, he might find it changes his mind-set and stops him winning, he may struggle to get the bets on and it might take longer and be harder to administer.

 Once he has placed his bet on the unders/overs in football the market does not move that much (it is a very stable market). He could definitely have ten times more on. He could also sell or give away the information of what he is betting. One of those things has a risk and the other doesn't.

 If you could make money with no risk you might choose to do that.

 Hedge funds have been pretty successful for many people. The operators of those funds could keep the information to themselves. They do not. People don't seem to find that strange.

 Having said all of that. I'm not certain yet how we plan to monetise our ideas. Selling tips is a possibilty but it isn't the only one.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: typhoon13 on February 17, 2013, 08:14:44 AM

 If you could make money with no risk you might choose to do that.

LIKE

But impossible to make money with no risk

All the best with this new venture,hope you get it off the ground and find support.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: FUN4FRASER on February 17, 2013, 04:25:34 PM
we already lost a sharpy in arbboy when he was accused of trolling in blatchgate,
He is clearly as knowledable as they come. I see no ulterior motive in this. Trust me when someone like adnmdv talks about sports betting, we should all listen

Totally disagree with you, just because someone is 'sharp' doesn't mean they need to be so damn rude.

Admv is only interested in pointing out everything that's 'wrong'-I see very little positives in his musings, he'd argue over the toss of a coin for days.
Yes arrboy did one great thing, yet he milked it for every last drop, and wouldn't ever, ever, everrrr......let the thing go.

And from having played poker with him online years back, i know how this was completely consistent with his online persona when he used to behave atrociously in the chatbox.

Met him irl and thought he seemed fine, maybe just a keyboard warrior, I dunno.

Still glad he doesn't post here with his 'style' of writing.


This


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: FUN4FRASER on February 17, 2013, 04:27:39 PM
Above poster seems to either troll* for a living or just be on a crusade to tell ppl they are wrong.

Not just itt either.


It's always you are wrong, this aint right, you can't say this, meh, meh, meh.

Yeah they are clearly articulate and intelligent, but they are also stringing out/demanding every last drop of explanation constantly over anything they can't comprehend fully.

It's like a baby wanting something from its parent and then screaming the house down when they aren't given it.

Makes my head hurt.

Sighs.

*Yeah i know it now looks like i'm trolling them, i'm really not- just thoroughly exhausted from reading their posts.

I've nothing to do with the venture, yet am excited by the potential of it and just don't know why some have to always find fault over nothing.
To be fair to admdv, imo his posts (apart from the ones on this thread) have been a lot more useful and have actually been a positive contribution to the various topics than they were prior to his sabbatical

Maybe i've missed this and if so I can only apologise, I just speak from witnessing his constant crit in tips for tikay pre sab and now itt.

Dunno why I care tbh, i'll let others smarter debate this while I stick to doing my nuts backing scots football teams in europe. :(

And This

You dont have to apologise for anything Nico...Keep Posting Sir


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: FUN4FRASER on February 17, 2013, 04:28:52 PM
Anyone pointing out that around 100 bets is not a big enough sample size to test conclusively whether a system that is winning betting things at roughly evs works is correct. As it happens Joe has been doing this for a while, (more than 100 bets), he just used that as an example. He is a fairly cautious guy, (extremely so for a pro-gambler), and he tested his theories out over many seasons before he bet a carrot, so I know the sample is larger. He just chose to mention this season as he's upped his stakes and is taking it very seriously.

 I would also say that Phil Ivey has probably played less than 1000 poker tournaments in his life. That is absolutely nowhere near enough to know if he is profitable at playing poker tournaments.

 If Phil Ivey asked me to stake him in a tournament I would do so, because I have watched him play poker, I have played poker with hi and I've seen how he operates.

 I decided that I liked Joe's chances of winning in a similar way.

 If you choose not to see it that way, then fine, no problem. It is possible this thing may not be for you.

 I am slightly confused though ADMDV. Are you saying Joe and I have come here to deliberately mislead people? Do you believe our business will be some sort of scam and you are here to defend everyone against us, despite the fact we haven't really said what our business will do? Do you believe that we should give away all details of our plans to you just because you demand to know how we plan to operate, even though you have zero intention of becoming a customer?

 Are you some sort of guardian of the internet looking to defend the little man against exploitation and protect the world from criminal masterminds?

 Couldn't you find some bankers, fraudsters, politicians or sportsmen to go after instead of two poker players who are just trying to start a little project which might men they have a little fun and possibly, (it isn't a fucking crime you know), make some money?

 Seriously, why do you care?

And all of this

No affinity to Neil or Joe as dont really know either that well ( sat on the same table a few times over the years) people can make their own choice to follow or not

Good Luck With the Venture Guys


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on February 17, 2013, 07:57:06 PM
One thing I've learned from the last ten months on blonde is that betting and winning consistently is a lot harder than I realised. It requires the kind of depth of analysis, judgment and calculation that goes into besting knowledgeable people in any field.

The 2003 poker game was such that winning wasn't half as tough as it is ten years on and so has betting shifted seismically.

I am interested to see what Neil and Joe have as a product. Having read the posts of BadBeat on the TfT thread, I have absolutely no doubt he understands a hell of a lot more than I about this stuff (didn't take me long to draw that conclusion, granted), so I can never be making a bad decision if I listen to him. He trusts Joe's judgment and that seems like a pretty sensible thing for me to do, too.

If when the product they announce doesn't suit me, I won't get involved, but that's fine. For now, my immediate thought is "Well this sounds interesting and I would like to see it work, be successful and, ideally, make me some money". I'll let them change my mind but I suspect my approach isn't unusual to the majority of people who've submitted their email address already.

People will vote with their wallets on whatever concept is announced but I hope the project/venture works.

Enough sycophancy from me, but I don't blame people for being skeptical; tipster services aren't regarded all that favourably and some people will be worried about having accounts stopped/reduced.

As said though, I'm eager to see something that I like and I really hope what is produced is a success.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: smashedagain on February 17, 2013, 08:00:10 PM
One thing I've learned from the last ten months on blonde is that betting and winning consistently is a lot harder than I realised. It requires the kind of depth of analysis, judgment and calculation that goes into besting knowledgeable people in any field.

The 2003 poker game was such that winning wasn't half as tough as it is ten years on and so has betting shifted seismically.

I am interested to see what Neil and Joe have as a product. Having read the posts of BadBeat on the TfT thread, I have absolutely no doubt he understands a hell of a lot more than I about this stuff (didn't take me long to draw that conclusion, granted), so I can never be making a bad decision if I listen to him. He trusts Joe's judgment and that seems like a pretty sensible thing for me to do, too.

If when the product they announce doesn't suit me, I won't get involved, but that's fine. For now, my immediate thought is "Well this sounds interesting and I would like to see it work, be successful and, ideally, make me some money". I'll let them change my mind but I suspect my approach isn't unusual to the majority of people who've submitted their email address already.

People will vote with their wallets on whatever concept is announced but I hope the project/venture works.

Enough sycophancy from me, but I don't blame people for being skeptical; tipster services aren't regarded all that favourably and some people will be worried about having accounts stopped/reduced.

As said though, I'm eager to see something that I like and I really hope what is produced is a success.
nice post. The job is yours


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on February 17, 2013, 08:00:57 PM

Great Post Tal, my sentiments exactly.

I really hope it works. If it does not, so be it. We gamble on far riskier things every day.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 21, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Neil will be doing a write up for this weekend's Oscars. It should be on the site sometime Friday and is free to all registered users.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 21, 2013, 09:45:39 AM
 As a quick warning - I have only bet on the Oscars since I was 17 and there were a couple of years where I barely had a bet. It has to be said my success in this field is over a very few events, so beware the sample size.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: smashedagain on February 21, 2013, 09:48:31 AM
But that first year everyone was on Charlie Chaplin :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 22, 2013, 01:30:35 PM
 Don't even talk about it. Had the D W Griffith and Douglas Fairbanks double.

 Fml.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 22, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
 My thoughts on the Oscars are on the site now. I have put up tips in five categories, It's all free but you do have to register. Hopefully I'll help with a few winners. Apologies in advance if they all lose - it's not a risk free enterprise.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on February 22, 2013, 07:55:27 PM
It begins...

VBOL, chaps.

Will be sure to have a good look. TfT needs a new arts correspondent...supposedly.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on February 22, 2013, 08:16:02 PM
It begins...

VBOL, chaps.

Will be sure to have a good look. TfT needs a new arts correspondent...supposedly.

Nooooo! You are the best Arty Bloke we have.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: smashedagain on February 22, 2013, 08:18:44 PM
has anyone read the oscar tips yet. i thought i had reg'd but cant get past putting my adress in now?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on February 22, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
has anyone read the oscar tips yet. i thought i had reg'd but cant get past putting my adress in now?

Yes, they were most interesting.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: smashedagain on February 22, 2013, 08:22:26 PM
has anyone read the oscar tips yet. i thought i had reg'd but cant get past putting my adress in now?

Yes, they were most interesting.
ok cheers. must be my bad. technophobic


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BigAdz on February 22, 2013, 08:58:01 PM
Good read Neil.

Invested.

Best of luck.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 23, 2013, 08:07:25 AM
 Cheers Adz. Good luck us.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MajorMajor on February 23, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
I have some Oscar tips.

1. Don't sneak up on him
2. Don't be his girlfriend
3. Don't go to the toilet when he is in the house


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on February 23, 2013, 10:43:43 AM
I'm subscribed. A super first read.

I shalln't spoil anything by saying I completely agree with the analysis on Zero Dark Thirty. I didn't when the nominations were announced but, alas, I do now  ;djinn;


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 23, 2013, 07:51:13 PM
has anyone read the oscar tips yet. i thought i had reg'd but cant get past putting my adress in now?

Yes, they were most interesting.
ok cheers. must be my bad. technophobic

We have had a small percentage of users that have had problems registering. Not sure why but it's a handful out of a couple of hundred. It would be helpful if you could email support@bettingemporium.com telling us what problem you experienced. Can you tell us what you entered and better still, if possible, send a screen shot?

Apologies for the aggravation, hopefully this small teething problem will be resolved shortly.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Rubbish2407 on February 24, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
I've tried registering and it says I've been sent a validation e-mail but none have come through? Used the online help facility but no one got back to me? Anyone help?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 24, 2013, 08:23:27 PM
I've tried registering and it says I've been sent a validation e-mail but none have come through? Used the online help facility but no one got back to me? Anyone help?

It would appear that your validation email bounced back if you are Papster? I can't see that anyone else has had this issue so I am guessing it's you;-)

You put two s's in your email address as papsster. I have amended your email to the correct one in our system and manually activated you.

You should now be able to login. Please let me know if you still have any problems.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: smashedagain on February 24, 2013, 09:14:49 PM
i got in requesting a new password and it says to change it to something more memorable but cant find where to do this.

great site and gl both


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: peejaytwo on February 24, 2013, 09:15:40 PM
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It would appear that your validation email bounced back if you are Papster? I can't see that anyone else has had this issue so I am guessing it's you;-)

did mine do the same thing joe?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 24, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
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It would appear that your validation email bounced back if you are Papster? I can't see that anyone else has had this issue so I am guessing it's you;-)

did mine do the same thing joe?

We have a peejaytwo account that is still waiting to be activated. I don't really want to post the email address you entered here but it's different to your Blonde registered one. If you email joe(AT)bettingemporium.com from the email address you used I'll try and fix it for you.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Rubbish2407 on February 24, 2013, 09:28:35 PM
Cheers Joe, all working.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Snowball on February 24, 2013, 09:42:37 PM
It wouldn't let me put my address in on my android, (the address colums wouldn't open) so had to register on my laptop.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 24, 2013, 09:44:22 PM
i got in requesting a new password and it says to change it to something more memorable but cant find where to do this.

great site and gl both

Click on 'My Profile' then 'Edit my Details'


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 24, 2013, 09:45:27 PM
It wouldn't let me put my address in on my android, (the address colums wouldn't open) so had to register on my laptop.

Tech is back in the morning. I'll get this looked at then. Apologies for inconvenience and thanks for posting this.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 25, 2013, 01:51:08 PM
 I'm already quite sad that the Oscars are over for another year. I hope that I was able to help those of you who read my article to back a winner or two and avoid the odd loss. I feel a little frustrated - it could have so easily gone better and I feel I got more right than wrong.

 In sports gambling, as in poker, I think it's good to review your bets and think about how you can improve next time, so my plan is to write a blog later talking about my night and how it went.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: iangascoigne on February 25, 2013, 07:54:51 PM
        Subscibed.Smooth process.Good luck. By the way, ' critics know the price of everything and the value of nothing'.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on February 25, 2013, 08:11:45 PM
 Thanks for that Ian. I have to say, the smooth workings of the site, which I obviously had nothing to do with, are a definite plus. I just posted a blog without the need to even call Joe or our techie guy and make myself sound like a complete idiot.

 Some people have thanked me for winning them money on The Oscars and others have moaned that I cost them. Personally I lost a small amount and if you followed the recommended staking plan you would have too. Hopefully you all ignored that and lumped on the ones I gave mentions for that won while avoidintg the ones I hinted at that lost.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on February 25, 2013, 08:14:51 PM
nice blog post

the mental side of sports betting is tough and evaluating whether something was a good decision afterwards is not always the easiest thing to do in my experience anyway



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BigAdz on February 25, 2013, 08:28:57 PM
+1

As with any betting you are given advice on/or taken advice on, it a simple case of "No one forced you"

There is loads of good advice offered on Tikays thread, but some will suit, and some wont. Ie, your staking plan may suit regular even money type bets, or you may prefer the bigger priced stuff.

One thing is for sure, whilst I have only ever played poker in Neils company for a couple of short periods, it was enough when coupled with all the hours I have listened to him on the box, and read his stuff to know that regardless of the outcome of the Oscars bets, this is something I shall be running with for as long as its going, because this chap knows his onions.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 01, 2013, 12:52:06 PM
Premier League Tips for this weekend have been updated on the site. There are 5 bets plus a write up and various stats and graphs.

Flame away  ;)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2013, 01:01:48 PM

Thanks Joe.

I liked this footnote in the intro.....

Some of the bets we advise might see the prices change, they might see you get knocked back and even see you have winning accounts closed. We'll try our best to keep on top of that but most bookmakers don't like to lose either. If they throw in the towel and close you down you smile knowing that you beat them and move on. There are plenty of ways to stay in action.

I'm not sure why folks get so uppity when their Accounts gets closed, for precisely the reasons you state. And why would I ever want to give custom to someone who does not welcome my business? We can get along nicely without each other.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: millidonk on March 01, 2013, 01:03:36 PM
Premier League Tips for this weekend have been updated on the site. There are 5 bets plus a write up and various stats and graphs.

Flame away  ;)

I had 3 emails to tell me this. Thanks. Reading now.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: AndrewT on March 01, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
I'm not sure I fully understand the football bets.

'Here's some graphs, and here's some bets'

Have you been doing these bets for the past two years? If so, what's the relevance of using the Betfair average price? You surely just put in the price you actually made the bet at?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 01, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
Premier League Tips for this weekend have been updated on the site. There are 5 bets plus a write up and various stats and graphs.

Flame away  ;)

I had 3 emails to tell me this. Thanks. Reading now.

Today was the first time we used the subscription email system in the BE. Please accept our apologies if you received the email more than once. We are looking into it and hope to fix the problem, whatever it is, before any more are sent.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: millidonk on March 01, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
Premier League Tips for this weekend have been updated on the site. There are 5 bets plus a write up and various stats and graphs.

Flame away  ;)

I had 3 emails to tell me this. Thanks. Reading now.

Today was the first time we used the subscription email system in the BE. Please accept our apologies if you received the email more than once. We are looking into it and hope to fix the problem, whatever it is, before any more are sent.

I'll live. It's a nice break from being told to take Viagra and how to lose weight..

GL this wknd.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 01, 2013, 05:31:38 PM
I'm not sure I fully understand the football bets.

'Here's some graphs, and here's some bets'

Have you been doing these bets for the past two years? If so, what's the relevance of using the Betfair average price? You surely just put in the price you actually made the bet at?

That would make sense wouldn't it ;-) With most tips on Bettingemporium that will be the case I would expect.

We tried to simplify and standardise it on the site for the over bets. Often my personal bets are in many segments or parts and at different prices. There are also weeks when, for personal reasons, or lack of time, I haven't actually got the action I wanted. In the home page intro you will see that it is actually something that started many years ago. We have been betting it seriously only for the last two years. It was far easier for us to use average prices like this and it's all automated which makes it easier still. It also shows how we run without spotting ricks or prices that are generally unavailable or not available very long.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: superwomble on March 01, 2013, 06:52:39 PM
Hi Joe, I was just wondering if we could read into the fact that other fixtures have not been tipped up as an indication that your system predicts they will go under 2.5 goals?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 01, 2013, 07:06:36 PM
Hi Joe, I was just wondering if we could read into the fact that other fixtures have not been tipped up as an indication that your system predicts they will go under 2.5 goals?

We asked the same question and you might expect it but it doesn't really work out like you would hope. I just ran a quick simulation and over three seasons it shows about a +1% ROI with a 51/49 success rate..


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: superwomble on March 01, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Thanks for the reply Joe. Hoping one of the ones you haven't tipped goes over as I've just put money on it...!

Good luck with your tips.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on March 08, 2013, 09:32:47 AM
 The whole thing of stating the price taken is tricky. I have had a few conversations with Joe on this. As it happens his method does not require you to be online all week, or diving on ricks on a Tuesday to make a profit. We are both very much coming into this as punters though. In our minds all that has mattered is if we make a profit. We have to realise that as tipsters you need to be accountable. There has to be a price at which you declare - this is where we are having a bet, so that people can say after whether a bet was struck and p & l figures are drawn up.

 Luckily Joe has done really well on this and a profit is made EVEN at average price matched -5% commission, so it should be simple to beat this by measuriing at the off, at noon on a Friday or by nominating a price as a minimum to take. Hopefully after a few weeks of winners for free, people will see that it's all good.

 Today I am going to post some early Cheltenham bets that I think we should do before the weekend. I'll add further mobves on Monday and then will post my analysis of each day at around 11.30pm on Tues to Fri.

 It' free to read this stuff if you just take the time to register. We are still not sure exactly how we plan to make money out of this, but we are having a few meetings with interesting people. For now, I would say, enjoy the free stuff and hopefully we can all make some money.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on March 08, 2013, 09:42:29 AM
The whole thing of stating the price taken is tricky. I have had a few conversations with Joe on this. As it happens his method does not require you to be online all week, or diving on ricks on a Tuesday to make a profit. We are both very much coming into this as punters though. In our minds all that has mattered is if we make a profit. We have to realise that as tipsters you need to be accountable. There has to be a price at which you declare - this is where we are having a bet, so that people can say after whether a bet was struck and p & l figures are drawn up.

 Luckily Joe has done really well on this and a profit is made EVEN at average price matched -5% commission, so it should be simple to beat this by measuriing at the off, at noon on a Friday or by nominating a price as a minimum to take. Hopefully after a few weeks of winners for free, people will see that it's all good.

 Today I am going to post some early Cheltenham bets that I think we should do before the weekend. I'll add further mobves on Monday and then will post my analysis of each day at around 11.30pm on Tues to Fri.

It' free to read this stuff if you just take the time to register. We are still not sure exactly how we plan to make money out of this, but we are having a few meetings with interesting people. For now, I would say, enjoy the free stuff and hopefully we can all make some money.

Look forward to those, Neil. And yes, it is FREE, so nobody can complain. We are all grown-ups, so caveat emptor & all that.

I will be setting some Rules on Fred shortly as to what happens if Fred regulars want to use BettingEmporium Tips & suggestions.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 08, 2013, 10:45:50 AM
The whole thing of stating the price taken is tricky. I have had a few conversations with Joe on this. As it happens his method does not require you to be online all week, or diving on ricks on a Tuesday to make a profit. We are both very much coming into this as punters though. In our minds all that has mattered is if we make a profit. We have to realise that as tipsters you need to be accountable. There has to be a price at which you declare - this is where we are having a bet, so that people can say after whether a bet was struck and p & l figures are drawn up.

 Luckily Joe has done really well on this and a profit is made EVEN at average price matched -5% commission, so it should be simple to beat this by measuriing at the off, at noon on a Friday or by nominating a price as a minimum to take. Hopefully after a few weeks of winners for free, people will see that it's all good.

 Today I am going to post some early Cheltenham bets that I think we should do before the weekend. I'll add further mobves on Monday and then will post my analysis of each day at around 11.30pm on Tues to Fri.

It' free to read this stuff if you just take the time to register. We are still not sure exactly how we plan to make money out of this, but we are having a few meetings with interesting people. For now, I would say, enjoy the free stuff and hopefully we can all make some money.

Look forward to those, Neil. And yes, it is FREE, so nobody can complain. We are all grown-ups, so caveat emptor & all that.

I will be setting some Rules on Fred shortly as to what happens if Fred regulars want to use BettingEmporium Tips & suggestions.

Thanks Tony,

Just one thing I would like to say is that we obviously don't want anyone posting all our tips publicly (or worse still copy and pasting) as it kind of defeats our purpose.

For Blonde though for example, if Neil posted say 3 tips on one Cheltenham day, and TFT wanted to back and post one of them, you could say something like 'Neil tipped three on Bettingemporium and I like this one for TFT'. That way you can recommend in TFT and people still have to register to read the full piece and to get the other two tips.

I hope I'm not making things too complicated. We love TFT and don't want to stop Fred backing our tips, we just want to protect Bettingemporium.com.

I hope that makes sense.  :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: smashedagain on March 08, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
The whole thing of stating the price taken is tricky. I have had a few conversations with Joe on this. As it happens his method does not require you to be online all week, or diving on ricks on a Tuesday to make a profit. We are both very much coming into this as punters though. In our minds all that has mattered is if we make a profit. We have to realise that as tipsters you need to be accountable. There has to be a price at which you declare - this is where we are having a bet, so that people can say after whether a bet was struck and p & l figures are drawn up.

 Luckily Joe has done really well on this and a profit is made EVEN at average price matched -5% commission, so it should be simple to beat this by measuriing at the off, at noon on a Friday or by nominating a price as a minimum to take. Hopefully after a few weeks of winners for free, people will see that it's all good.

 Today I am going to post some early Cheltenham bets that I think we should do before the weekend. I'll add further mobves on Monday and then will post my analysis of each day at around 11.30pm on Tues to Fri.

 It' free to read this stuff if you just take the time to register. We are still not sure exactly how we plan to make money out of this, but we are having a few meetings with interesting people. For now, I would say, enjoy the free stuff and hopefully we can all make some money.
just gonna drop you a pm about making money Neil.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: david3103 on March 08, 2013, 10:53:47 AM
Hi guys

what's your policy on data usage? I can't see anything on the site that allows me to opt out of mailings, emails or SMS from you or any future 'carefully selected partners'

I'm taking the assumption here that you do have a DPA Licence


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on March 08, 2013, 11:11:10 AM
The whole thing of stating the price taken is tricky. I have had a few conversations with Joe on this. As it happens his method does not require you to be online all week, or diving on ricks on a Tuesday to make a profit. We are both very much coming into this as punters though. In our minds all that has mattered is if we make a profit. We have to realise that as tipsters you need to be accountable. There has to be a price at which you declare - this is where we are having a bet, so that people can say after whether a bet was struck and p & l figures are drawn up.

 Luckily Joe has done really well on this and a profit is made EVEN at average price matched -5% commission, so it should be simple to beat this by measuriing at the off, at noon on a Friday or by nominating a price as a minimum to take. Hopefully after a few weeks of winners for free, people will see that it's all good.

 Today I am going to post some early Cheltenham bets that I think we should do before the weekend. I'll add further mobves on Monday and then will post my analysis of each day at around 11.30pm on Tues to Fri.

It' free to read this stuff if you just take the time to register. We are still not sure exactly how we plan to make money out of this, but we are having a few meetings with interesting people. For now, I would say, enjoy the free stuff and hopefully we can all make some money.

Look forward to those, Neil. And yes, it is FREE, so nobody can complain. We are all grown-ups, so caveat emptor & all that.

I will be setting some Rules on Fred shortly as to what happens if Fred regulars want to use BettingEmporium Tips & suggestions.

Thanks Tony,

Just one thing I would like to say is that we obviously don't want anyone posting all our tips publicly (or worse still copy and pasting) as it kind of defeats our purpose.

For Blonde though for example, if Neil posted say 3 tips on one Cheltenham day, and TFT wanted to back and post one of them, you could say something like 'Neil tipped three on Bettingemporium and I like this one for TFT'. That way you can recommend in TFT and people still have to register to read the full piece and to get the other two tips.

I hope I'm not making things too complicated. We love TFT and don't want to stop Fred backing our tips, we just want to protect Bettingemporium.com.

I hope that makes sense.  :)

Thanks Joe.

I have already made our position clear on the TfT thread. (Personally, I NEVER put up tips).

It would be unreasonable & impractical to ask TfT readers never to suggest tips first seen on BE, that would be unpoliceable & unenforceable, so we have suggested....

1) A 2 hour period of grace.

2) Insisted that BE be accredited with the original tip.

We cannot actually prevent folks from doing otherwise, but we will try to. They could read your stuff, stick the tip up, & say it was their own idea. Like collusion in poker, it is well hard to prove.

The really important thing is to suggest common sense & "be fair by all parties".

I addressed the matter here....

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56581.32880

We will continue to suggest people sign up to your site, too, so at worst, there is some gain for the occasional loss you may suffer from folks "pinching" stuff. Hopefully it balances out. On balance, blonde should be a positive for you.

It is quite tricky actually, especially as, hitherto, Neil has been a big supporter & aide to TfT, so we appreciate his spot is a little delicate now, too.

Given common sense & a desire to be right by everyone, I'm sure it will be fine.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on March 08, 2013, 11:18:34 AM

Ooh, let me just add one more thing.

If there were to be any cutting & pasting from BE, that would be perfectly improper, & the Mods would remove it immediately.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 08, 2013, 11:26:01 AM
All sounds good Tony, thanks again.  :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on March 08, 2013, 11:29:33 AM
How can you tell a tip I came up with independently from one I lifted from betting emporium?  It seems fairly hard to police.

FWIW you are safe for now I haven't registered.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 08, 2013, 11:33:17 AM
How can you tell a tip I came up with independently from one I lifted from betting emporium?  It seems fairly hard to police.

FWIW you are safe for now I haven't registered.

Fairly hard? I would say impossible ;)

I guess a tell tale sign would be copy and paste but apart from that I couldn't agree more.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 08, 2013, 11:34:20 AM
Hi guys

what's your policy on data usage? I can't see anything on the site that allows me to opt out of mailings, emails or SMS from you or any future 'carefully selected partners'

I'm taking the assumption here that you do have a DPA Licence

Hi David,

We will never sell any of the data or information on Bettingemporium to third parties.

Are you a registered user on the site? I couldn't find a david3103?

There is already an option on the site, when you are registered and logged in, to subscribe and un-subscribe to the various mailings. We need to add options to opt out of any (all) general future mailings for all registered users, un-subscribe requests will be added to general mail shots and will always be honoured.

We also need to add SMS options too (there are no immediate plans to use SMS and if we do it should be opt in rather than opt out anyway).

The site is new but we should have site t&c as well as the cookie requirements on the site and this will be added soon.

The ico.gov.uk site would suggest that a DPA licence is not required for what we are doing and the t&c will make that clearer once we get them up (too busy trying to find winners ;))

If I have misunderstood anything please feel free to email me on joe@thehendonmob.com

Cheers,

Joe


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Acidmouse on March 08, 2013, 11:39:46 AM
Any data on profit/loss if each week you did those tips in an accumulator


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redsimon on March 08, 2013, 11:42:19 AM
Joe,

Have you had any feedback on whether the email notification works? I have it set to email me when new tips go up but not received any emails,


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: david3103 on March 08, 2013, 11:43:44 AM
Hey Joe (sorry couldn't resist it)

I'm registered - but as pokerpops_xx (I was christened by the home game regulars)

That's all good

find some winners please :-)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 08, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
Joe,

Have you had any feedback on whether the email notification works? I have it set to email me when new tips go up but not received any emails,

Thank you for your feedback Simon, this is really helpful to us.

The Premier League tips for this weekend were updated this morning and a mailshot is on it's way at the moment. Please let me know if you get it ok ;-) You should have it in the next 20 minutes or so as teething problems should all be fixed now.

Usually the email will go out as soon as the tips go up (maybe 5 minutes or so) so in the future you will get them quicker than today.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 08, 2013, 11:57:37 AM
Any data on profit/loss if each week you did those tips in an accumulator

We could run a simulation and see, the data is all there, there are different amounts of bets each day/ week though. Do you mean all selections on one specific day whether it be 2 or 5 or even more?

With Cheltenham, and a few other things, going on everyone is flat out but we could try and put something together, it could be interesting.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Acidmouse on March 08, 2013, 12:03:37 PM
Just the footy bets in a five fold or whatever the number is each week. I might just put them in £2 yankee's  and record what they do.

Thanks btw, free tips on a well laid out site always positive news!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: superwomble on March 08, 2013, 12:04:02 PM
Just to let you know, I got the email about 10 minutes ago cheers.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redsimon on March 08, 2013, 12:06:13 PM
Emails arrived :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
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Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: kpnuts on March 08, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
site working again. just got email too. guess it was maybe just too busy for a minute! GL with the venture


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: class on March 08, 2013, 03:15:58 PM
Email safely received here too!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 09, 2013, 10:56:37 AM
The first Cheltenham piece went up last night. Registered subscribers should have had their email about then. Free to registered users.

Hope you like the picture ;)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2013, 11:26:06 AM
The first Cheltenham piece went up last night. Registered subscribers should have had their email about then. Free to registered users.

Hope you like the picture ;)

Loved the picture, though I never got the e-Mail. Not a prob though, I just visit the website.

I saw it late last night, an absorbing read, but I'll not give the game away. Interesting piece of analysis on a single race (the Arkle) by Mr Channing. I have not had a bet yet, but I'm so intrigued by the piece Neil wrote I may have to. Clever how he somehow.......

There, proper tease.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on March 09, 2013, 11:59:56 AM
 Was planning to put a couple of other things up, but it turned into a busy day. As I have a cold and decided not to play the UKIPT HR I am now writing a smaler essay on the Champion Hurdle, The Champion Chase and maybe the Supreme Novices. I would think I'll gradually put these up with the mares race and possiblt the Ryan Air by Monday.

 The other races I'll cover each day at between 11.30am and noon.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 09, 2013, 12:04:51 PM
Tikay, I just double checked as the mail shot was sent whilst on the second bottle of Sancerre.

It would appear however that it went to your Yahoo account at 920pm and didn't bounce back. Maybe it went to your junk or you missed it?


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Post by: tikay on March 09, 2013, 12:34:46 PM
Tikay, I just double checked as the mail shot was sent whilst on the second bottle of Sancerre.

It would appear however that it went to your Yahoo account at 920pm and didn't bounce back. Maybe it went to your junk or you missed it?

Apologies Joe, yes, I missed it, it is there. I rarely use my Yahoo Account so I don't check it as often as I should, but my other e-Mail is my Company Account, so I don't have my Gaming stuff sent there. Which is a bit ironic.......

Anyway, I have Bookmarked the site now, & check it regularly. I dont or wont necessarily back everything or even anything suggested there, but I subscribe to a ton of specialist sports betting sites & read them all, & in that way I can build a picture in my mind of most Events. I've become a bit of a betting snob, I can't stand this "I fancy Man U today" stuff, it takes a lot of time & work to find value, but it IS there, especially in Sub-Markets, even though the over-rounds are sometimes grotesque. That assumes I don't misclick of course.

I did have some Huddersfield @ +12 last night though, thank you. Cant be bad for free, can it?


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 10, 2013, 02:51:40 AM
 I had a massive problem with my internet today which didn't get resolved until the evening. I have just posted two bets on the Champion Hurdle. There is a declaration stage at 10am Sunday, which may stop anyone getting on.

 Hopefully some people will get the message nice and early.

 I have looked over and over at the Supreme and I will be posting at least one bet on Sunday as well as at least one in the Champion Chase.

 The only other races I can see myself playing before the day are possibly the mares and the Ryan Air. I will post if I play.


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Post by: rfgqqabc on March 10, 2013, 03:59:02 AM
Ok, I'm in for Cheltenham. Going to miss far too much and I've always followed Bad Beat in TFT. Really like the smarmy e/w stuff. PP don't though :(


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Post by: BigAdz on March 10, 2013, 09:38:08 AM
Good write up Neil.

The change in ground has certainly tempered my confidence in ROR, but not sure why you would say he may not stay. He was at his strongest at the end of last years CH, and also 2nd in the Neptune the year before?

It goes against the grain to finally back Zarkander, and I have missed the price that sits comfortably, but I see mileage in CF. Ty


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 10, 2013, 10:43:45 AM
 I definitely think the blinkers are a massive factor here. Could pull his arms out if they dawdle. It's going to be a long way home on the ground. You may need to stay 2m4f and he probably doesn't.

 Cheers for the kind words though. Fingers crossed. Getting excited now.


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Post by: BigAdz on March 10, 2013, 10:46:25 AM
You going at all Neil?


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 10, 2013, 10:53:30 AM
 Turned down loads of offers to get pissed and be distracted in boxes full of loonies who aren't watching half the races.

 I find I can barely get everything I want to do done while I'm at home and having three hours sleep a night having got the paper at Kings Cross.

 I think if I ever went again it would be in the ring as a bookmaker, I do miss that (I just don't miss driving three hours each-way to Ludlow to donate £4000 to the Black Country economy).


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Post by: BigAdz on March 10, 2013, 11:12:05 AM
I hear you.

The Brookys have several horses over the first three days, so obliged to attend, but they will need to have the fav in the Gold Cup before I ever go on the Friday again.


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Post by: The Camel on March 10, 2013, 12:47:37 PM
You going at all Neil?

I'm going Wednesday Adzy, see you there for a pint?


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Post by: BigAdz on March 10, 2013, 12:56:49 PM
defo keith.

Paddock/Parade ring duties for Goulanes/RSA, Sadlers Risk/Coral, Liquidator/Bumper.

Work it round that, and tell me where you will be or pm you number.

Look forward to it


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 12, 2013, 01:54:51 AM
 I'm off to bed and plan to be up in a few hours. I have posted on three of the day one races now and I will post thoughts on the others after 11am.


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Post by: Horneris on March 12, 2013, 02:25:36 AM
I'm off to bed and plan to be up in a few hours. I have posted on three of the day one races now and I will post thoughts on the others after 11am.

I read The Supreme one and saw the advised bets. You don't need to worry about taking SP with Hills do you as they offer Best Odds Guaranteed.

Unless they don't to some customers, but I'm heavily restricted with them and the option is still there.


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Post by: Horneris on March 12, 2013, 02:30:44 AM
Good stuff, although I would say that as you tipped up 4 of the 5 I mentioned on the other thread.

I do think people are too quick to write off Grandouet due to some dodgy reports, it could turn into a sprint and he hasn't ran as badly on soft/heavy in the past as some suggest.


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Post by: peejaytwo on March 12, 2013, 09:05:02 AM
Quote
Ok, I'm in for Cheltenham. Going to miss far too much and I've always followed Bad Beat in TFT. Really like the smarmy e/w stuff. PP don't though

Bad e/w bets are really for the shops assuming you want to keep online accounts for other stuff.
Get out of yer pit and do some legwork!!


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 12, 2013, 09:35:58 AM
 I've done more miles than the Brownlee twins this week.


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Post by: horseplayer on March 12, 2013, 09:38:23 AM
I've done more miles than the Brownlee twins this week.

lol

i meant to ask earlier in the week you have mentioned the poor form of the mccain yard a couple of times in your previews.

according to market expectation since the beginning of March he is winning at about what he should be

unless i have missed something


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 12, 2013, 10:18:52 AM
 Just had a few short ones that haven't found much. Obviously he hasn't been running his best ones in the last couple of weeks.

 Bit of a vibe thing, doesn't seem too confident about his ones on the ground.

 (have to confess I don't like him).


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Post by: rfgqqabc on March 12, 2013, 10:22:07 AM
Quote
Ok, I'm in for Cheltenham. Going to miss far too much and I've always followed Bad Beat in TFT. Really like the smarmy e/w stuff. PP don't though

Bad e/w bets are really for the shops assuming you want to keep online accounts for other stuff.
Get out of yer pit and do some legwork!!

You'd think I'd get more than a bowl at Cheltenham. Plus I have 13,500 things that are more important this week!


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Post by: horseplayer on March 12, 2013, 10:29:07 AM
Just had a few short ones that haven't found much. Obviously he hasn't been running his best ones in the last couple of weeks.

 Bit of a vibe thing, doesn't seem too confident about his ones on the ground.

 (have to confess I don't like him).

thanks for replying

gd lk this week


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Post by: ripple11 on March 12, 2013, 02:50:54 PM

Nice one in the first....thanks Neil  :)


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Post by: tikay on March 12, 2013, 03:11:19 PM

Nice one in the first....thanks Neil  :)

...and the 2nd race - 25/1 2nd.


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 12, 2013, 03:14:52 PM
33/1...just saying.


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Post by: Acidmouse on March 12, 2013, 03:18:58 PM
can you do a cliffs after each long post....


Tuesday  3:20 Chelt  X 2pts EW
Tuesday  4:00 Chelt  X 1pt Win

etc..

I know its annoying but tbh I don't wanna know the reasoning behind the bets just want the tips :~) I have no idea what the names of the races are so times and days help alot for the average punter.

Hope not coming across as an arse, just for future posts make it easier to read.


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Post by: bobby1 on March 12, 2013, 03:21:18 PM
great shout Neil


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Post by: tikay on March 12, 2013, 03:22:34 PM
33/1...just saying.

I was not quick enough!

Very pleased, all the same.


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Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2013, 03:22:38 PM
Echo that

took a long time for me to find the tips for the next, the Handicap chase, as it was the second half of a post headlined to talk about another race

Summary at end of post in bold and summary of days recommendations in a box please

Minor quibbles, as I am enjoying reading the content

ty


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 12, 2013, 03:43:54 PM
 Such a rush to do the work, pget my bets on and put the tips up. I'm on three hours sleep, got the Racing Post at 5am. I'll try and lay it all out a bit better tomorrow, just getting the hang of the site myself.

 Cheers Tighty.


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Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2013, 04:20:03 PM
Countrywide Flame at 16-1 :-)


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Post by: ripple11 on March 12, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Countrywide Flame at 16-1 :-)


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Post by: Graham C on March 12, 2013, 04:29:31 PM

Yes, thanks again :D  Didn't remember placing this one until I checked my account just now.


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Post by: tikay on March 12, 2013, 04:36:52 PM

;)


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Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2013, 04:57:11 PM
Neil, you utter utter hero

What a start for the site!

40-1 2nd and 3rd e/w


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Post by: ripple11 on March 12, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
YES !! ty ty....f/c as well  :)


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Post by: Graham C on March 12, 2013, 05:03:30 PM
Oi Oi!!!  Thank you very much Neil, thank you :D  

I've had a fantasticly fun day


Title: !
Post by: tikay on March 12, 2013, 05:03:35 PM

Incredible.

What a day!


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Post by: Nico29 on March 12, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
Such a rush to do the work, pget my bets on and put the tips up. I'm on three hours sleep, got the Racing Post at 5am. I'll try and lay it all out a bit better tomorrow, just getting the hang of the site myself.

 Cheers Tighty.

Reports are fine meh.

I mean look at the quality of the work he's put in, and ppl whinge about spending 2 minutes finding what the bets are.

Just dont get it, thought we were on for absolute jackpot today, still awesome tips/results ty Neil!


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Post by: Nico29 on March 12, 2013, 05:06:26 PM
can you do a cliffs after each long post....


Tuesday  3:20 Chelt  X 2pts EW
Tuesday  4:00 Chelt  X 1pt Win

etc..

I know its annoying but tbh I don't wanna know the reasoning behind the bets just want the tips :~) I have no idea what the names of the races are so times and days help alot for the average punter.

Hope not coming across as an arse, just for future posts make it easier to read.

Personally really want to hear the reasoning.


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Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2013, 05:09:26 PM
Such a rush to do the work, pget my bets on and put the tips up. I'm on three hours sleep, got the Racing Post at 5am. I'll try and lay it all out a bit better tomorrow, just getting the hang of the site myself.

 Cheers Tighty.

Reports are fine meh.

I mean look at the quality of the work he's put in, and ppl whinge about spending 2 minutes finding what the bets are.

Just dont get it, thought we were on for absolute jackpot today, still awesome tips/results ty Neil!

I wasn't whinging

Layout is the lowest of priorities, of course

Content first, Layout last

As and when, layout can be better :-)


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 12, 2013, 05:10:47 PM
 I tried hard to put the actual ones I am betting at the end of the piece.

 I am aware that some people would like to pick their own horses and they maybe want to see what I think of their selection. I think I shall stick to describing my thought process but I shall ensure I make it very clear what I am backing.

 I often bet on quite big priced horses and it can be frustrating having a losing run. Sometimes I change my mind at the last minute and the one I was very close to backing wins. As a tipping site we felt we would keep our followers more if they got to see the whole process. They can, hopefully, learn with me and we'll keep them even if I bet a lot of losers at times.


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Post by: Horneris on March 12, 2013, 05:11:07 PM
Fair play there, class tipping.

Shame you didn't delve into the w/o Quevega market for the French mare aswell.


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Post by: Nico29 on March 12, 2013, 05:15:28 PM
Such a rush to do the work, pget my bets on and put the tips up. I'm on three hours sleep, got the Racing Post at 5am. I'll try and lay it all out a bit better tomorrow, just getting the hang of the site myself.

 Cheers Tighty.

Reports are fine meh.

I mean look at the quality of the work he's put in, and ppl whinge about spending 2 minutes finding what the bets are.

Just dont get it, thought we were on for absolute jackpot today, still awesome tips/results ty Neil!

I wasn't whinging

Layout is the lowest of priorities, of course

Content first, Layout last


As and when, layout can be better :-)


Yeah of course it prob could be.

I just think time and place and all that tbh after such amazing results today, the write ups seemed so spot on too.

Was more aimed at acidmouse saying im not whinging but meh just give me the winners, was tldr.

Seemed little rude/blunt event though I dont think it was meant to be.



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Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
Personally, I want to see the write-ups, the detail, the thought process, so Nico I agree with that.

Time consuming though, I am sure


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 12, 2013, 05:25:00 PM
 Funnily enough I made a book on Betfair without fav. 1st bet I laid was £100 at 18/1 the French. Bit annoying but ended up taking £5000 and my worst loser was only for £800. Had intended to keep the lot but put up what I considered to be under the odds.


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Post by: JaffaCake on March 12, 2013, 05:46:22 PM
Amazing work Mr Channing, that race with the 2nd and 3rd at 40/1 is the stuff all us who don't really do horses but like an interest love!

Think the site looks great, u obv need to reorder and biold up some stuff but it's early days and the content is great (and free). I used used ctrl f to find the next race.

If u need any design, writing help, just shout, but really just keep the content that good!!


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Post by: Acidmouse on March 12, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
Such a rush to do the work, pget my bets on and put the tips up. I'm on three hours sleep, got the Racing Post at 5am. I'll try and lay it all out a bit better tomorrow, just getting the hang of the site myself.

 Cheers Tighty.

Reports are fine meh.

I mean look at the quality of the work he's put in, and ppl whinge about spending 2 minutes finding what the bets are.

Just dont get it, thought we were on for absolute jackpot today, still awesome tips/results ty Neil!

I wasn't whinging

Layout is the lowest of priorities, of course

Content first, Layout last


As and when, layout can be better :-)


Yeah of course it prob could be.

I just think time and place and all that tbh after such amazing results today, the write ups seemed so spot on too.

Was more aimed at acidmouse saying im not whinging but meh just give me the winners, was tldr.

Seemed little rude/blunt event though I dont think it was meant to be.



Was a simple feedback & note for future, about presentation. How I found it confusing, they didn't take it wrongly so not sure why anyone else would.  I didn't back any and wont have a bet all week just wanted a quick look to see who he picked each day, not having to read full posts to do so. Sorry if you were offended. Others have said the same thing about it being confusing, next time I pm him if you want.

Said many times its excellent site and idea, free info/tips too everyone is great.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 12, 2013, 06:41:16 PM
Cheltenham Day 1 -

7/1 winner, 66/1 ew 2nd, 40/1 ew 3rd, 33/1 ew 2nd, 16/1 ew 3rd , 8/1 ew 4th and a 5/1 ew 3rd

(won 48.75 points, summary on 'Tips' page)


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 12, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
PS All feedback is welcome.

I barely had time to tie my shoe laces today. ;)


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Post by: typhoon13 on March 12, 2013, 06:49:25 PM

Registered with your site on sunday and i wont let me Login, can't blame it really!!!


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Post by: ripple11 on March 12, 2013, 06:50:14 PM

Registered with your site on sunday and i wont let me Login, can't blame it really!!!

lol


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Post by: superwomble on March 12, 2013, 06:51:05 PM
Oi Oi!!!  Thank you very much Neil, thank you :D  

I've had a fantasticly fun day

This. Cracking day cheers!


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Post by: Rubbish2407 on March 12, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
Yep, had a big day thanks to Mr Channing. Looking forward to tomorrow's installment. Thanks for sharing with us.


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Post by: BigAdz on March 12, 2013, 09:42:08 PM
Just back

The day was looking grim, then The Channingmeister kicks in and we save the day.

That tenner reverse in the women's race almost came off. What a coup that would have been.

More of the same please Mr C.


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 13, 2013, 12:59:29 AM
 It's going to be hard to live up to today. I have set the alarm for 4am so I should be asleep now and I'll be working just as hard.

 You should have had two decent sized (equally-sized) each-way bets getting 3 places in the Queen Mother. If you failed to take that excellent bet, please do not compound this error by betting two places at worse odds. I would suggest no bet if you failed to get on.

 I'll put some stuff on the RSA and the Neptune in the early morning and later I'll add thoughts on the other races.

 Off for my three hours sleep.



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Post by: DaveShoelace on March 13, 2013, 08:26:40 AM
It's going to be hard to live up to today. I have set the alarm for 4am so I should be asleep now and I'll be working just as hard.

 You should have had two decent sized (equally-sized) each-way bets getting 3 places in the Queen Mother. If you failed to take that excellent bet, please do not compound this error by betting two places at worse odds. I would suggest no bet if you failed to get on.

 I'll put some stuff on the RSA and the Neptune in the early morning and later I'll add thoughts on the other races.

 Off for my three hours sleep.



It must have killed you when you found out EPT London was the same week as Cheltenham.

I know shite all about horseys but will be doing whatever Channing tells me too the rest of the week.


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 13, 2013, 08:56:46 AM
 It wasn't even a slightly tricky decision. Our number of years on this planet are limited and I never want to miss a Cheltenham. There are way too many poker tournaments.


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Post by: DaveShoelace on March 13, 2013, 09:10:08 AM
I wish I understood this horse lark, I feel like I'm missing out. It's just like when I had a Commodore when all my mates had a Spectrum all over again. 


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Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2013, 09:18:51 AM
I wish I understood this horse lark, I feel like I'm missing out. It's just like when I had a Commodore when all my mates had a Spectrum all over again. 

I went in 2006 on the Wednesday, or Thursday and was in one of the glass boxes with free bar etc. At that time I had no interest whatsoever in racing, so spent the entire day seeing how much I could drink while everyone else was getting excited about doing their dough.

Over the last couple years I've fallen in love with it, I still don't understand it quite that well, but Adz is trying to help me along. Slowly I'm starting to learn a litte I think, though I imagine he feels like he has his own special needs child :D


I've just spammed the site up on my forum Neil, so hopefully a few will sign up if they haven't already.


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Post by: Graham C on March 13, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
I wish I understood this horse lark, I feel like I'm missing out. It's just like when I had a Commodore when all my mates had a Spectrum all over again.  

I know what you mean, there's so many horses too, how do you begin to learn about them all?  If I've heard of a horse, chances are it's pretty high profile.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 13, 2013, 12:14:45 PM
Two new write ups for Cheltenham Day 2 already added today.


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Post by: TightEnd on March 13, 2013, 01:08:17 PM
Neil

Backing 66-1 shots win only

utility of an each way return and keeping accounts in good order versus giving up some value to the bookie?

discuss please


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Post by: Bazzaboy on March 13, 2013, 02:22:54 PM
Too good!!


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Post by: TightEnd on March 13, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
Oi Oi

Winner and second!


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Post by: tikay on March 13, 2013, 02:23:23 PM

Choo Choo Channing.


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Post by: ripple11 on March 13, 2013, 02:23:31 PM
Too good!!

Far too good!!


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Post by: Acidmouse on March 13, 2013, 02:24:41 PM
 ;applause; ;tightend;


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 14, 2013, 12:54:27 PM
Write up for the first five races at Cheltenham today is up.


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Post by: Acidmouse on March 14, 2013, 12:57:51 PM
Write up for the first five races at Cheltenham today is up.

thanks alot, passed them on to my non internet using Dad, he is going to a bookies now to put his couple of quid on.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 15, 2013, 12:52:09 PM
First article for Cheltenham Day 4 is up as is the Premier League tips for this weekend.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 15, 2013, 06:02:41 PM
Another winning day at Cheltenham (Day 4 +3pts) making it 3 winning days out of 4 and a total profit of over 50 points for the festival. Full summary in 'Tips' section.


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Post by: typhoon13 on March 15, 2013, 06:21:40 PM
Another winning day at Cheltenham (Day 4 +3pts) making it 3 winning days out of 4 and a total profit of over 50 points for the festival. Full summary in 'Tips' section.

50 points profit, always good, well done Gents


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Post by: rfgqqabc on March 15, 2013, 06:32:47 PM
I ended up not following the tips completely, however, I had a fair few when I was free, think I won similar to what I would have in points plus a bit extra for the first day madness. Fantastic work Neil, every horse seemed to come in by the off, really nice to see. Hope the site generates the rewards you guys deserve.


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Post by: superwomble on March 15, 2013, 06:40:08 PM
Great stuff, good results and cracking write-ups, cheers chaps :)


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 15, 2013, 06:41:41 PM
 Thanks for showing an interest guys. I really wanted people to follow with me as I went along and share in my thought process, but obviously it's hard to write in full detail on every race+study the races+get my bets on+sleep+manage to enjoy the week. I tried to manage it by not eating, sleeping, answering the phone or replying to emails but sometimes it meant the write-ups were low on detail or a bit late going up.

 Hopefully people got them in time to bet and the prices were not impossible to get on at.

 Cheers for all the kind words. I sort of feel like we massively hit the bar, but it was still a pretty decent week.

 Sadly the horse race betting market is way too thin for me to want to post every day what I am doing, but I think I may do a similar thing for the Grand National meeting.

 We got loads of sign-ups. At the moment we have no really clear idea what we are going to do to try and make a business from the site, but we are happy to continue sharing our thoughts for free.

 Joe's footy bets for Saturday are up now.


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Post by: Tal on March 15, 2013, 08:28:15 PM
4 excellent days' work, chaps. Actually, I suspect it was 8 excellent days' work squeezed into 4.

I'd suggest highlighting the tips - maybe using bold - if you're going to use as much detail and reasoning. I love the way it is written, but making the recommendation more prominent might help the audience a little.

Well done again. A great start and a superb platform for whatever direction this concept goes in next.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Karabiner on March 15, 2013, 11:06:21 PM
First-class updates and a very interesting insight into how you work out your bets.

Absolutely loved it.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on April 03, 2013, 11:37:29 PM
 Just letting you guys know...


  I'll be putting all the bets I have during Aintree on the site. I will post by noon each day.

 Sadly Liverpool is not Cheltenham. The bookmakers will not be simply giving money away with amazing offers and massively improved terms.

 However, there are some improved terms and it should be a fair bit easier to get on than on a wet Monday at Plumpton, so hopefully it'll be worth the work I plan to put in.

 If you want to see what I'm doing then sign-up for free at www.bettingemporium.com



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on April 03, 2013, 11:45:45 PM
Great stuff, Neil.

Just discussing your site down the local Legion, as it happens. One of those twee customer service expressions springs to mind: WOMBAT.

Word Of Mouth is the Best Advertising Tool.

Anyway, very best of luck to you both (and the rest of us...) for the next few days.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: smashedagain on April 04, 2013, 09:57:01 AM
I've not had to buy a drink on a pool night since Cheltenham ( only drink coke but even that is ludicrously priced in a pub). One of the team checked out your site from my Facebook page and is hooked.

Hope Aintree proves just as fruitful gl.


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Post by: tikay on April 04, 2013, 02:18:29 PM

Boom!

Great start, Neil, thank you.


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Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2013, 02:34:27 PM
Great pick Neil and Adz says thank you from Liverpool :D


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Post by: Bad Beat on April 04, 2013, 06:44:52 PM
 Bit of a frustrating 1st day. A faller in a hurdle, a third place after a non-runner knocked the race down to seven and a 6th place when at least one firm was betting 1st 5.

 It looked pretty good after the 10/1 winner (could have got 11/1 if anyone still has a Stan James account).

 Tomorrow doesn't look masses of fun with two odds-on favourites and three races with less than eight runners.

 I will post stuff a bit earlier at noon.


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Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2013, 01:32:48 PM
Great writes up Neil, thanks and gl us!


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Post by: Eso Kral on April 05, 2013, 01:35:45 PM
Great writes up Neil, thanks and gl us!


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Post by: JoeBeevers on April 06, 2013, 10:07:24 AM
Grand National write up is up early today ;-)


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Post by: tikay on April 06, 2013, 10:21:06 AM
Grand National write up is up early today ;-)

Seen it!

He's been a busy boy. Just the rest of the card required now. Oh, & a bunch of goals at WBA & Stoke.....


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Post by: horseplayer on April 06, 2013, 10:22:55 AM
good luck today gents


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Post by: Tal on April 06, 2013, 10:27:48 AM
good luck today gents

What he said.


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Post by: Marky147 on April 06, 2013, 10:42:04 AM
You've run like I do around a track so far Neil, fingers crossed for a heater today!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on April 06, 2013, 01:49:29 PM
 Bound to have loads of winners today - I haven't found getting on too easy.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on April 10, 2013, 01:19:08 AM
 We've brought in a guest tipster for The Masters. I'm going to be away from the computer some of the weekend and it's not a sport Joe follows too much. Ollie is looking at tournaments every week of the year but we've asked him to help us just for the majors as that is where the liquidity is. There doesn't seem much point tipping things that are tough to get on.

 I have some thoughts of my own on The Masters, (although I agree with a lot of what Ollie says), and I'll be posting them later today.


 Hopefully get back some money after a slightly disappointing and frustrating Aintree.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on April 10, 2013, 02:49:56 PM
 Ollie has added two 1st round bets and I have gone a bit mental (some is up already and some more will follow shortly).


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: ripple11 on April 11, 2013, 04:41:17 PM

Great work on the golf..........on most of it :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on May 31, 2013, 07:55:17 PM
 We've been a bit quiet on the BE front recently. Both been pretty busy.

 I just wrote some thoughts on the Derby and I am suggesting more than one bet and some big prices.

 Hopefully it will be up there later.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on June 01, 2013, 10:51:48 AM
We've been a bit quiet on the BE front recently. Both been pretty busy.

 I just wrote some thoughts on the Derby and I am suggesting more than one bet and some big prices.

 Hopefully it will be up there later.

Cheers Neil, on all of them and Jim McGrath picked Mirsaale out too on Morning Line


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on June 01, 2013, 10:57:32 AM

Same here, thanks guys.

I am only on the 100/1 shot so far, but I'd be so miffed if one of the other two got home that I'll probably have to bet them, too.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 01, 2013, 03:57:59 PM
 I'm a massive McGrath fan so very pleased with that.

 Shame that Galileo shortened a few minutes after I wrote the piece with me not on it at 40/1.

 I do think 33/1 is OK.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on June 01, 2013, 05:55:53 PM
Well done, sir. Happy with Galileo. Such vision.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on June 01, 2013, 06:19:16 PM
Great shouts Neil, must be a reason we've never seen Hugh Taylor, Tom Segal or yourself in the same place...


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 02, 2013, 04:52:30 PM
 I love Segal. Everyone always says great stuff about Hugh Taylor. I'm showing a massive ignorance here...where do people get his stuff? I try not to watch ATR unless I'm actually watching a race. Does he put stuff out there? Is it on his website? Is it free?

 Obviously it would have helped the price if Segal didn't tip it but still have to love Tom.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on June 02, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
I love Segal. Everyone always says great stuff about Hugh Taylor. I'm showing a massive ignorance here...where do people get his stuff? I try not to watch ATR unless I'm actually watching a race. Does he put stuff out there? Is it on his website? Is it free?

 Obviously it would have helped the price if Segal didn't tip it but still have to love Tom.

atr website every day and yes it is free, prices will go within 2 minutes

he is also on atr every wednesday discussing theories e.t.c



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 02, 2013, 05:49:32 PM
 Thanks mate. Not sure why I've never tuned in to him. Everyone I respect seems to rate him.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on June 02, 2013, 05:50:33 PM
all of his stuff is on the channel linked to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgr__NsHkgA



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on June 02, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
I normally miss the prices because I'm going to bed a couple hours before he posts...


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 18, 2013, 10:48:27 AM
 Just posted some Royal Ascot day 1 stuff. Joe is on the plane and I've sat up all night so I hope it is there and I haven't made any big mistakes with the site.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: superwomble on June 18, 2013, 10:54:30 AM
Hi Neil, if I click any of the `read tips` links I get taken to my profile page.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MahoganyVic on June 18, 2013, 10:54:54 AM
When I click on any tips I just get sent to my profile page.  Not sure if i've messed something up at my end mind you!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: kpnuts on June 18, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
Hi Neil, if I click any of the `read tips` links I get taken to my profile page.

same


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MereNovice on June 18, 2013, 10:57:27 AM
Hi Neil, if I click any of the `read tips` links I get taken to my profile page.

same

Same


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on June 18, 2013, 10:57:36 AM
Yes me too

Hopefully Neil will see this and fix if able while Joe is mid-atlantic!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Laxie on June 18, 2013, 11:04:36 AM
He's been made aware of the problem, but he's also working on zero sleep atm, so I'm not sure if his brain will come up with a fix or a plan B.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 18, 2013, 11:04:51 AM
 Damn. Tried everything, can't seem to make it work. From where I am looking I can see them and they appear to be visible to users.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 18, 2013, 11:12:12 AM
 I don't think I really did anything different but it's now working apparently.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MereNovice on June 18, 2013, 11:16:40 AM
I don't think I really did anything different but it's now working apparently.

Confirmed (you are a computer geek).


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 18, 2013, 11:20:37 AM
 I think the excellent Mrs Beevers must have noticed something was happening in Betting Emporium land and rescued me.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: superwomble on June 18, 2013, 12:37:44 PM
Yep sorted now cheers.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on June 18, 2013, 05:20:04 PM
I don't think I really did anything different but it's now working apparently.

Yeah, I sorted it for you Neil.

My pleasure.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MereNovice on June 18, 2013, 05:25:57 PM
I don't think I really did anything different but it's now working apparently.

Yeah, I sorted it for you Neil.

My pleasure.

How long have you and Joe been married?
If I'd known I would have sent a card.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on June 18, 2013, 05:27:24 PM
I don't think I really did anything different but it's now working apparently.

Yeah, I sorted it for you Neil.

My pleasure.

How long have you and Joe been married?
If I'd known I would have sent a card.

Nicely played.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on June 18, 2013, 05:27:31 PM
I don't think I really did anything different but it's now working apparently.

Yeah, I sorted it for you Neil.

My pleasure.

How long have you and Joe been married?
If I'd known I would have sent a card.

I do all the complex IT stuff for Neil & Joe.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Laxie on June 18, 2013, 05:37:06 PM
I don't think I really did anything different but it's now working apparently.

Yeah, I sorted it for you Neil.

My pleasure.

How long have you and Joe been married?
If I'd known I would have sent a card.

I do all the complex IT stuff for Neil & Joe.

You supposed to be busy trying to win poker tourneys.  Don't suppose they'll play for you while you're doing the IT stuff?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MereNovice on June 18, 2013, 05:38:23 PM
I don't think I really did anything different but it's now working apparently.

Yeah, I sorted it for you Neil.

My pleasure.

How long have you and Joe been married?
If I'd known I would have sent a card.

I do all the complex IT stuff for Neil & Joe.

You supposed to be busy trying to win poker tourneys.  Don't suppose they'll play for you while you're doing the IT stuff?

:D
As a shareholder that gets my vote.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 19, 2013, 06:14:53 AM
 Ging to sleep now at 10pm. Will wake up at 4am to look at Ascot and post stuff. Then watch the races from 6.30am until 9.30am and then Rio at noon for the turbo.

 My first glance (an hour or so glance) tells me I may have less bets in the stakes races. Might not get up until 5am.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 19, 2013, 02:01:47 PM
 Have sent a couple of races. Still working on the rest.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 19, 2013, 03:14:47 PM
 Should be all there now. Nearly had a bit of real fun in the 2nd. Hopefully some of you saw in time. It's tough getting this done and sleeping. 7am now and playing at noon.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: ripple11 on June 19, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
Should be all there now. Nearly had a bit of real fun in the 2nd. Hopefully some of you saw in time. It's tough getting this done and sleeping. 7am now and playing at noon.

vul....sounded very close on the wireless.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on June 19, 2013, 03:29:06 PM
Should be all there now. Nearly had a bit of real fun in the 2nd. Hopefully some of you saw in time. It's tough getting this done and sleeping. 7am now and playing at noon.

Sounds like you had a good sweat in that last race.  Get MereNovice to do your research for you. He's been twiddling his thumbs all morning, lazy wotsit.

Good luck today, sir.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on June 19, 2013, 03:35:56 PM

Good luck in the WSOP thing today, Neil.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 20, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
 Had an early sweat with the 25/1 2nd yesterday. I thought for a second...

 Just put up a few early bets in the first couple of races. It's a struggle to operate on these hours. Working on the other races now.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 21, 2013, 02:45:03 PM
 I particularly like the last two races today despite the obvious charms of the 2nd race. They should all be there now.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 22, 2013, 02:28:21 PM
 Today's stuff is all there. It's been a pretty tough week. Getting up at 4am every day and then sleeping a little after racing.

 Would have been a lot easier if Stickells had his watering can taken away.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 02:52:43 PM
stickells loves the can


good luck today


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 03:05:44 PM
Not really sure Stickells had much of an effect tbh.

Going was offically good Tuesday and actually GF rest of the week.

Not heard any complaints from jocks about the ground either.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
That said, they are certainly kicking it up here in 3.05


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 03:10:51 PM
nice winner neil

benefited there from the watering

water on firm ground is a disaster waiting to happen


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 22, 2013, 03:13:30 PM
Stickells...hate him. So sorry to see that.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 17, 2013, 05:04:19 PM

Nice start to the Season, Joe, 2 from 2 - well done!


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Post by: tikay on August 19, 2013, 09:16:56 PM

Make that 3 from 3, perfect perfect perfect.

Very well done Joe, keep them coming.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2013, 02:30:03 PM

This is getting a little repetitive......

Chelsea was the BE Overs bet last night, so that is 4 from 4 this season.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on September 08, 2013, 09:42:27 AM
 A few people were asking on Twitter what plans BE have for NFL.

 I tend to have a few bets midweek and they could literally be at any time of the day or night. Sometimes they are pretty price sensitive and lines move quickly. Neither of these things make them great selections for a tipping site.

 My plan, therefore, is to post only on Sundays. I think I'll try and have something up at noon each week but it may be earlier. I'm not sure if I'll have settled on what my bets for the day are, in terms of strength before noon, so maybe I'll put an extra post up at 3pm.

 For now all of the tips at BE are free for registered users so feel free to sign up.

 


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Post by: fatboyslow on September 08, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
And a great start to the season it was to :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on September 09, 2013, 12:53:51 AM
Terrific previews there Neil, thanks.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on September 09, 2013, 12:47:33 PM
Great write ups, really interesting reading and pretty incred results!

So unlucky with the last game too, I really thought Manning was going to lead them down the field on that last drive for the win.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on September 09, 2013, 01:12:24 PM
Great write ups, really interesting reading and pretty incred results!

So unlucky with the last game too, I really thought Manning was going to lead them down the field on that last drive for the win.



(http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ELI-MANNING-INTERCEPTIONFACE.gif)

My only loser of the week, but it was a good loser!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on September 09, 2013, 01:36:12 PM
That's the best thing about betting against your own team, you win either way :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on September 15, 2013, 01:44:07 PM
 Not so many bets for me this week. I have posted my early thoughts, will put up my bets and staking plan at 3pm.

 Thanks for the kind words and good luck us this week.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on September 22, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
 I just spent two hours doing a write-up. Could see me having a lot of bets. I'll be back with a staking plan after 3pm.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on September 22, 2013, 01:26:17 PM
I just spent two hours doing a write-up. Could see me having a lot of bets. I'll be back with a staking plan after 3pm.

Great news!

Ayr/Newbury recovery beings at 6 :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: The Camel on September 22, 2013, 02:28:49 PM
"Tampa Bay have more 3rd downs than 1st downs a stat that leads to the under."

Not sure what you mean by this?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on September 22, 2013, 02:44:06 PM
 Hi Keith. Wanted to get things up before noon (failed) and was typing faster than I was thinking.

 I read some stuff this week about "early down success rate" which is a sabremetric thing that measures how many times people make a 1st without needing a 3rd. The Patriots are 30th in the league and Tampa 31st on this one. The Buccs have more 3rd down attempts than made 1st downs this year, was I think what the guy was saying.

 Hope that helps.

 You got a nap?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: The Camel on September 22, 2013, 02:51:24 PM
Hi Keith. Wanted to get things up before noon (failed) and was typing faster than I was thinking.

 I read some stuff this week about "early down success rate" which is a sabremetric thing that measures how many times people make a 1st without needing a 3rd. The Patriots are 30th in the league and Tampa 31st on this one. The Buccs have more 3rd down attempts than made 1st downs this year, was I think what the guy was saying.

 Hope that helps.

 You got a nap?

Ah ok, that makes sense, although week 3 might be a bit early to relying on stats like that?

Really like Pitt this week. Backed Jax and Washington too.

glgl


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on September 29, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
 I've only put up four bets this week but two are bigger than any I've bet this year and the other two are just as big as my biggest bet so far. All there free to registered users.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on September 29, 2013, 05:34:43 PM
Fab write ups this week, Neil.

I really like the format of headlines first and detail underneath. Nice, clean and easily understood.

Where do you get all your data from? Do you spend Monday inputting the numbers into a giant spreadsheet? Or are you getting it from sites that have done that for you already?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on September 29, 2013, 06:59:18 PM
I do some myself, I listen to around 10 hours of podcasts a week on NFL and I nick loads of stuff from people on Twitter.

 I then weight it all in my mind and come up with my bets.

 I actually feel a bit guilty that I don't credit people but I guess I'm making the work "mine" by piecing it all together.

 Thanks for the kind words btw.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on September 29, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
The depth and breadth of stats in American sports puts the stuff over here to shame. It takes some incredible databases to feed the commentators in these games, where they have so many gaps to fill with all the breaks in play.

Same in baseball. "You know, Sid, this batter coming out behind with the bases loaded against a left handed pitcher with red shoes is averaging .750"

Perhaps no different to the Racing Post. Just have to find the right combination of stats and pick the right horse...


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on October 14, 2013, 08:18:57 AM
Some fantastic work going on by Neil on the NFL, keep up the great work, has taken my interest on American Football from zero to red hot.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on October 20, 2013, 04:59:40 PM
Thanks fellas. Four bets up there now.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on October 27, 2013, 05:09:28 PM
 Got a bit caught out by the hour but 5 bets have been there a while including two VERY strong ones.

 Only two of the 5 are off now.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on October 27, 2013, 05:36:19 PM
Daren't get involved in spreads, but I've piled into the others :D

Thanks, and good luck!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: typhoon13 on October 28, 2013, 08:22:00 AM

Know nothing about NFL

Jumped onto your top two

Appreciated thank you


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on October 28, 2013, 09:25:11 AM
I never got and notifications this week.

I did check the site though and was on top 2 for a double and singles. I had the KC game in a small 4 fold with those 2 and the 49ers to beat the spread. Sick that the chiefs score that field goal.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on October 28, 2013, 10:09:28 AM
Great big bet Neil, thanks very much.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JaffaCake on October 28, 2013, 06:23:31 PM
I backed Neil's Dallas Denver reccy and even found my spread betting acc details, which might be a danger....but not if they win like they did this weekend. Good work Mr C, hope u got the lot


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on October 28, 2013, 06:59:28 PM
I never got and notifications this week.

I did check the site though and was on top 2 for a double and singles. I had the KC game in a small 4 fold with those 2 and the 49ers to beat the spread. Sick that the chiefs score that field goal.

Apologies for the emails not going out this Sunday. I was stuck on a farm in Somerset with no phone reception, no 3g and no internet. How do people survive down there? I can't believe someone like Neil actually used to live in Somerset!

We did manage to get a Tweet out when the site updated though. You can follow us on Twitter @bettingemporium


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on October 28, 2013, 07:03:08 PM
I backed Neil's Dallas Denver reccy and even found my spread betting acc details, which might be a danger....but not if they win like they did this weekend. Good work Mr C, hope u got the lot

A danger to your health if you watched the game for sure!

Adz went to bed halfway through the Denver game because he couldn't take any more, but had a nice surprise when he woke up to see that Washington had imploded, and he had been weighed in :D

Never known a game quite like it before, nevermind to have two play out the same way!

Good to see Neil getting the lot for all the work he obviously puts in every week.


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Post by: BigAdz on October 28, 2013, 07:26:08 PM
Just for clarity, Marky and I do not live together.  ;melissa;


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Post by: Tal on October 28, 2013, 07:37:04 PM
(http://www.lizardfish.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/morecambe_and_wise_in_bed.jpg)

"I see Des O'Connor's horse is running tomorrow"
"Is it?"
"It is. Got course and distance, carrying a stone less than it should and the ground is perfect for him"
"What price?"
"8/1"
"Eight to one?! That's a max bet isn't it?"
"No chance"
"You mean to tell me this super horse with all the perfect conditions isn't value at 8/1?"
"They've only gone and put Jamie Spencer on it"


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on October 29, 2013, 03:58:45 AM
ROFL!


Very good, Tal :)


And Neil is way too good!


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Post by: Bad Beat on October 29, 2013, 07:40:21 PM
You are all very kind. It's been a pretty decent season but I'm still slightly thinking I'd have made more if I'd have written once at noon and put the bets up then, having double the number of bets.

 Does anyone read the early stuff and get stuck in straight away or do people wait and then bet the ones I go for?

 Do people tend to use the early stuff to back-up/change their mind from the things they had been planning to do?

 I'm just curious. I'm spending a lot of time on it, just let another afternoon slip away thinking about stuff for next Sunday. It helps when you are winning though.

 Appreciate the support.


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Post by: MahoganyVic on October 29, 2013, 07:48:39 PM
Excellent stuff as always BadBeat.

Personally I read the reviews as soon as they appear but wait til the betting plan is posted before I place wagers. I'm not as clued up on the NFL though as a lot of the people on here!


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Post by: Omm on October 29, 2013, 07:57:27 PM
You are all very kind. It's been a pretty decent season but I'm still slightly thinking I'd have made more if I'd have written once at noon and put the bets up then, having double the number of bets.

 Does anyone read the early stuff and get stuck in straight away or do people wait and then bet the ones I go for?

 Do people tend to use the early stuff to back-up/change their mind from the things they had been planning to do?

 I'm just curious. I'm spending a lot of time on it, just let another afternoon slip away thinking about stuff for next Sunday. It helps when you are winning though.

 Appreciate the support.

Think the early write up is fantastic and I'm sure we all get different things out of it, partly for me it helps me understand more about the game and it's great to see your thinking, however that being said I still wait for the later betting plan before jumping in.


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Post by: Omm on October 29, 2013, 07:59:03 PM
(http://www.lizardfish.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/morecambe_and_wise_in_bed.jpg)

"I see Des O'Connor's horse is running tomorrow"
"Is it?"
"It is. Got course and distance, carrying a stone less than it should and the ground is perfect for him"
"What price?"
"8/1"
"Eight to one?! That's a max bet isn't it?"
"No chance"
"You mean to tell me this super horse with all the perfect conditions isn't value at 8/1?"
"They've only gone and put Jamie Spencer on it"

I'm still belly laughing, great timing Tal.


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Post by: kpnuts on October 29, 2013, 08:02:25 PM
You are all very kind. It's been a pretty decent season but I'm still slightly thinking I'd have made more if I'd have written once at noon and put the bets up then, having double the number of bets.

 Does anyone read the early stuff and get stuck in straight away or do people wait and then bet the ones I go for?

 Do people tend to use the early stuff to back-up/change their mind from the things they had been planning to do?

 I'm just curious. I'm spending a lot of time on it, just let another afternoon slip away thinking about stuff for next Sunday. It helps when you are winning though.

 Appreciate the support.

Think the early write up is fantastic and I'm sure we all get different things out of it, partly for me it helps me understand more about the game and it's great to see your thinking, however that being said I still wait for the later betting plan before jumping in.

+1 ^^^^^^


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Post by: Tal on October 29, 2013, 08:54:09 PM
I read the full write ups, chuckle at the notion that someone has a record of how teams coming off bye weeks to play at altitude on a Sunday in October against teams wearing red fare against the spread when receiving first and then I wait for the final selections.

I have started this season to have enough familiarity with the sport to form my own views on which lines I like and, if they match yours, I go for it. Obviously, your bigger selections are autobets.

I'm a detail guy; I vastly prefer to understand the reasoning behind a bet, and the reasoning behind the bet sizing. It gives the selections credibility and enables me to make better decisions on my own.


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Post by: Bad Beat on November 03, 2013, 02:11:00 PM
 Just remembered to remind you all that I posted my thoughts.

 Tricky week. Took a long time. Hope it helps.

 Will have some bets with a staking plan in an hour or so.


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Post by: engy on November 04, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
im clueless on NFL so just going to blindly follow you neil :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on November 10, 2013, 02:22:32 PM
 I posted my thoughts at noon as usual. It seems to take slightly longer each week. Bets will appear at 3pm hopefully.

 You'll now only be able to see this if you pay. The price is £49.49 to the end of the regular season but we will give you your money back if the 49ers win the Super Bowl.

 Hopefully you'll all be happy to carry on winning each week.


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Post by: Bad Beat on November 10, 2013, 03:29:22 PM
 All the bets for this week are there now, including a 12 point bet.


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Post by: Kmac84 on November 10, 2013, 04:18:39 PM
I appreciate the business model behind the site was always to go subscription based but disappointed it had gone subscription based at this point in the season. I would be interested on the ROI to a level stake because the bets strength seemed to increase after a bit of a bad spell.


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Post by: redarmi on November 10, 2013, 04:35:34 PM
By my reckoning Neil has gone 29-20 so he would be up 7 points or 8.16% ROI to a level stake.  Level stakes betting is almost always the wrong thing to do though and it is not as though the stakes have doubled or anything he might have added a point here and there but it has never really looked like chasing so I don't think there is really any evidence to support your hypothesis.


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Post by: Marky147 on November 10, 2013, 04:38:06 PM
I'm in anyway leggooooooooo!

My ROI is about 30% better than it would be if I was picking my own :D


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Post by: JoeBeevers on November 10, 2013, 04:45:43 PM
I appreciate the business model behind the site was always to go subscription based but disappointed it had gone subscription based at this point in the season. I would be interested on the ROI to a level stake because the bets strength seemed to increase after a bit of a bad spell.

53 bets showing a ROI of +11.3% to level stakes by my spread sheet, slightly better than the +10.01% to suggested stakes.

I think you are mistaken about the increased stakes after a few losses. Apart from an occasional nap or 'max bet' as it were the stakes are pretty consistent apart from the first two weeks which were slightly smaller. The first two weeks showed a profit and ROI of over 24%.


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Post by: MahoganyVic on November 11, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
Now that the NFL stuff has gone subscription, are the picks released any earlier?

Understand completely why they are put up late as you guys need to get on first when potentially hundreds of people will be reading the page. Am just asking as a lot of the lines seem to have moved by the time the picks are up and it was a struggle to find many that were still available at the spreads/ prices quoted when I checked


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Post by: Bad Beat on November 11, 2013, 07:17:28 PM
 I wasn't planning to put them up any earlier. I write the stuff that goes up at noon in the time before that and some weeks it takes a couple of hours, maybe three. I just don't fancy getting up any earlier on Sunday morning.

 I try to release the bets at 3pm. The reason I don't do it earlier is not really to do with me getting on. I just need a bit of time to devise the staking plan and narrow down the potential 12 bets to a manageable number.

 I take about ten minutes to type those up and during that ten minutes I'm constantly refreshing oddschecker to see if the prices are freely available. I only tip things you can get with Ladbrokes/Hills/Corals/Betfred/Paddys/B365. I never tip things that are only available with a smaller firm who won't lay a bet and I try not to tip things that are only available with one of the big firms. If I do tip something at say 9.5 which is just with Hills I will say I would take 9.

 All of this week's six were easily available at the prices at 3pm when they went up. there was considerable money for the under in the Detroit/Chicago game, the under in the Buffalo/Pittsburgh game and for the Rams +9 but you definitely had at least 30 minutes to get the prices.

 I would stress that life is always better if you take best price and having a variety of accounts, including exchanges, has got to help.

 nc


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Post by: JoeBeevers on November 11, 2013, 07:33:38 PM
Sometimes it goes the other way too. Neil wrote up a game a few weeks ago (UNDER 43.5 Total Pts Miami vs Buffalo at 10/11 20th Oct) but several bookmakers pushed it out to 44.5 between the tip going up and the game starting. I remember this one particularly because total points made up at exactly 44. In the spread sheet and stats and ROI for Bettingemporium it shows as a losing bet of course but my Paddypower column on my own personal spreadsheet shows a win.


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Post by: MahoganyVic on November 11, 2013, 08:12:59 PM
Cool thanks for the replies. Will deffo be subscribing in the near future!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on November 17, 2013, 02:38:03 PM
I appreciate the business model behind the site was always to go subscription based but disappointed it had gone subscription based at this point in the season. I would be interested on the ROI to a level stake because the bets strength seemed to increase after a bit of a bad spell.


 I forgot to reply to this one at the time. It just isn't true.

 First of all I never really had a  bad spell. We have had 11 weeks of the season and I've either won or broken even on all bar one (that's from memory I haven't been through and counted, I don't really think in terms of weeks just worry about the bottom line, although anyone can see every bet I placed on the site). I'm betting an average of 8 points on each bet over the whole season and the average in recent weeks has been closer to 9 points a bet. The average of the first three weeks was around 6 points per bet.

 You make it sound like I've been desperately doubling-up to get my money back when all I've been doing is slightly increasing stakes while on a good run, when I have more information to bet on (we are deeper into the season). Anyone who has followed the bets as suggested will have built their bankroll and can easily cope with the slightly increased stakes. In the first couple of weeks I wanted to start a little gently and I didn't feel so confident until I had more data to work on.

 The way your post portrays it seems a bit mean.

 I'm not sure I have an answer to why we picked this point of the season to start charging. Did you mean it would have suited you better to pay from week one? I guess we could retrospectively charge people. I'll suggest it to Joe.

 This weeks bets will be up in a bit. I hope people realise that I work hard on this and so far it seems to show a profit.

 


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Post by: Kmac84 on November 17, 2013, 07:21:11 PM
I appreciate the business model behind the site was always to go subscription based but disappointed it had gone subscription based at this point in the season. I would be interested on the ROI to a level stake because the bets strength seemed to increase after a bit of a bad spell.


 I forgot to reply to this one at the time. It just isn't true.

 First of all I never really had a  bad spell. We have had 11 weeks of the season and I've either won or broken even on all bar one (that's from memory I haven't been through and counted, I don't really think in terms of weeks just worry about the bottom line, although anyone can see every bet I placed on the site). I'm betting an average of 8 points on each bet over the whole season and the average in recent weeks has been closer to 9 points a bet. The average of the first three weeks was around 6 points per bet.

 You make it sound like I've been desperately doubling-up to get my money back when all I've been doing is slightly increasing stakes while on a good run, when I have more information to bet on (we are deeper into the season). Anyone who has followed the bets as suggested will have built their bankroll and can easily cope with the slightly increased stakes. In the first couple of weeks I wanted to start a little gently and I didn't feel so confident until I had more data to work on.

 The way your post portrays it seems a bit mean.

 I'm not sure I have an answer to why we picked this point of the season to start charging. Did you mean it would have suited you better to pay from week one? I guess we could retrospectively charge people. I'll suggest it to Joe.

 This weeks bets will be up in a bit. I hope people realise that I work hard on this and so far it seems to show a profit.

 

Sorry if you felt I was ool. Wasn't my intention.

Fwiw I have no issue with it being a pay service, although personally would have preferred to have had more notice of it going that way. Charging retrospectively, good luck with that.

I would gladly pay a subscription to the service but would prefer a set of parameters that were pre-determined.  If the nfl stuff takes you to December or whenever will there be a chance to subscribe from January to January say? I would like to be involved on that. Especially with Cheltenham, the World Cup etc!


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Post by: Bad Beat on November 24, 2013, 01:50:32 PM
 I'm certain we'll be looking to have a great season and then charge the happy subscribers for the play-offs. We also have some plans to do some affiliate deals.

 Not really planning to announce all our business ideas in advance.

 I was up at 7am and I worked really hard again this week. Will have some bets in a couple of hours.


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Post by: Marky147 on November 24, 2013, 03:53:49 PM
I was surprised that given the amount of graft it must take, that it was a free service for so long and for 2 months worth of matches £50 is giving it away!

Gamblers are a funny bunch...


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on November 25, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
I was surprised that given the amount of graft it must take, that it was a free service for so long and for 2 months worth of matches £50 is giving it away!

Gamblers are a funny bunch...

Thanks Mark.

Neil managed SIX winners from 7 bets yesterday! The season statistics now look like this:

+99.91 points / 67% winning weeks / +18.50% ROI for the season up to and including week 12 (Nov 24th)

You can see all of Neil's bets (results only) on the site without paying a subscription here (you do need to register which is free):
http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/12

Those who signed up as soon as we started charging got 8 weeks for £49.99. There are 5 weeks left in the regular season. You can sign up now for the rest of the regular season for £39.99.

It will always be better signing up earlier rather than later ;-)

We have decided against charging for the first nine weeks of NFL but we appreciate the suggestion.  :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on November 28, 2013, 12:41:01 PM
Turkey-Day Shootout Write up Posted

There are three NFL games today at 530pm, 930pm and 130am UKT

Neil has done a write up on all three and recommended two bets.


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Post by: Marky147 on November 28, 2013, 02:26:09 PM
Almost forgot there was NFL today, cheers.

Will enjoy watching with my Thanksgiving feast Pot Noodle...

Some going last Sunday, the only bet not to come in was the 2nd one on the St. Louis game.

The only downer was that St. Louis bet being the one in my degen acca ;D





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Post by: GreekWay on December 11, 2013, 01:10:19 AM
I don't know if you bet on the NBA or cricket but I would like to see some picks on these two sports alongside Football and NFL.

Also is there a chance of adding picks of European football matches?

Congratulations for the site. It really helps.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on December 11, 2013, 10:23:05 AM
 Thanks Greeky.

 Hopefully after the smallish losses two weeks ago and the loss last week people won't be getting too upset with me. Obviously the season is still showing a decent return and a healthy ROI, but it does worry me that people may have started doubling up after we had such a good run. I really hope everyone kept to the recommended stakes (and that they couldn't get online last week).

 As you might be able to tell though I do take it very seriously and I spend many hours a week on the NFL. I do bet on NBA but I have some methods there that I'd rather not share plus I follow a few other people who probably don't wish to share their selections. On top of that the NBA is literally every day which means a massive time commitment. I can't really see us doing the NBA.

 One thing we did consider when we started BE was that tipping sites often tip on markets that are tiny in size and with firms that won't lay a bet. It's no good boasting you have an ROI of 60% if nobody can get on your bets. We really have tried to only tip in very liquid markets where the effect of our tips will not change the market and everyone will get on. This obviously makes it harder to win (these are the hardest markets to have an edge on in some ways). However I'm happy that in NFL and Premier League soccer we can suggest a bet and 100 or even 200 people could follow having hundreds on each without making a massive difference.

 To stick with that thought we plan to have bets for Cheltenham, (one of the only horse meetings where the market is big enough for everyone), the golf majors, some more football and the World Cup for sure.

 In all the time I have known Joe he has been a very enthusiastic and certainly a successful cricket bettor. I am a large lifetime winner on cricket but I know very little about it. I guess the match result market on test matches is an example of the sort of market that 300 people could have £250 on without causing a big ripple, but that seems a really tough market to beat.

 I guess that would be where we could start though. I'll speak to Joe.


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Post by: Acidmouse on December 11, 2013, 10:31:46 AM
good luck Bad on the coming weeks, I am sure it will turn into a nice profit for you and the subscribers.


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Post by: TightEnd on December 11, 2013, 10:32:28 AM
sorry to interject

Generally (teaching Neil to suck eggs) you will not get rich quick backing one team to beat the other at cramped odds in an efficient market. The opportunity lies in sub markets where you might know more than the odds compiler and across a series or a game look at markets lke

- Top Bowlers by team

- Top batsman by team

- Runs in the day

etc etc

(of course Australia smashing England at Brisbane and a lesser extent at Adelaide was an example of a big change that the market hadn't priced in, but its rare)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on December 11, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
Totally agree there Tighty. Problem is that top series batsman and the like are quite hard to win on unless you can be on at top price and if we tip someone at 11/2 when it's just with Stan James and Skybet then it won't be easy to get 300 bets of £50 to £200 but at 9/2 it may not be a +ev bet.

 (sorry wasn't teaching you back Rich, pretty sure you know this, think we're all just agreeing it's tricky).

 One of the reasons that I think the NFL market can be beaten (and the NBA to an extent) is that the large amount of public money outweighs the pro money and moves the lines from where they "should" be, (if the market was set to predict the result and not to factor in any other bookmaking considerations like balancing the book or leaning towards popular teams). The cricket market used to have that inherent exploitable bias for years as the Indian firms were always buried under a mass of bets on the draw and they would shorten this to a ridiculous extent making results always value. I suspect the market has corrected itself on this one.


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Post by: RobS on December 13, 2013, 12:47:48 PM
Hey Neil / Joe

Quick question. With your Premier League 'Overs' recommends, I understand you have a trusted computer programme that must suggest to you what the true price should be for each game (correct me if I'm wrong).

What I don't understand is why you always put up 'Overs' bets and never the 'Unders', surely it must consider the market wrong in the other direction sometimes to make the 'Unders' a bet?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on December 13, 2013, 01:09:39 PM
Hey Neil / Joe

Quick question. With your Premier League 'Overs' recommends, I understand you have a trusted computer programme that must suggest to you what the true price should be for each game (correct me if I'm wrong).

What I don't understand is why you always put up 'Overs' bets and never the 'Unders', surely it must consider the market wrong in the other direction sometimes to make the 'Unders' a bet?

We have been asked this question many times. We have crunched significant amounts of data and it does show a small profit doing the opposite and betting unders. Over 5 seasons it shows a profitable ROI of about 0.4%. If we get more time we will look deeper and spend more time on it. We could find more bets for sure but for the time being we are just picking out, what we believe, to be the most profitable ones.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on December 15, 2013, 12:38:27 PM
 Quite excited about the NFL this week. Few I really like. Have just sent the early thoughts.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on December 21, 2013, 08:33:04 AM
Joe/Neil do you have an affiliate link to sporting index if so can you post it, I need to open a spread account.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on December 23, 2013, 01:52:26 PM
Joe/Neil do you have an affiliate link to sporting index if so can you post it, I need to open a spread account.

Hi Omm,

We are slowly adding more affiliates to Bettingemporium but we haven't got around to the Spread firms yet. It won't happen until the new year at least now.

Thank you for thinking of us.

Cheers,

Joe


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on January 03, 2014, 10:57:38 PM
 Just in case anyone was wondering how we plan to approach the NFL play-offs I have put a short essay with an outright tip up and I plan to write something about the two Saturday games this week and next that will appear at around 3pm Saturday. At 5pm I'll suggest any bets I fancy. I'll do the same again on Sunday.



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Post by: JoeBeevers on January 22, 2014, 07:58:06 PM
We have just posted a free preview of Superbowl XLVIII and also a calendar for events that we intend to cover over the coming months.


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Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2014, 02:18:04 AM
Royal Ascot missing?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on January 26, 2014, 01:38:17 PM
 Good spot Keith.

 By the way we have our new guy Ian posting football now and I just had my first ever Turkish super league winner after a Portugese 2nd division and something from Finland.

 Joe has followed Ian for a couple of years and we all know how much he values a pound note.

 The stuff is free but you have to register.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on January 29, 2014, 05:57:10 PM
Twitter

Betting Emporium ‏@bettingemporium 8m

2 bets 2 winners for Brodders on Euro football today. Now 3 winning days from 3. FREE to all reg'd users.(+44 pts and an unsustainable +90.3% ROI)


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Post by: Snowball on January 29, 2014, 07:46:13 PM
Looking forward to the  PLD's bets.


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Post by: horseplayer on January 30, 2014, 06:12:40 PM
Any idea when the superbowl bets will be released?

thanks


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Post by: GreekWay on January 31, 2014, 12:12:43 AM
Great show on Sky Neil. Really enjoy it. I really wish they had you on more times. I don't know if that depends on you or them though. ;-)

You mentioned some Caribbean bookies during the show. Apart from Pinnacle, can you name some others that offer better odds than most UK bookies?



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on January 31, 2014, 08:39:06 AM
 Hi Horsey,

 Planning to put some things up on Saturday and more on Sunday.

 Saturday is always a bit mental so I guess I'll do it late afternoon. Sunday I plan to have something up at 3pm and final words at 5pm.

 Cheers Greeky. I'll have a go at your question a bit later.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on January 31, 2014, 09:19:13 AM
Great show on Sky Neil. Really enjoy it. I really wish they had you on more times. I don't know if that depends on you or them though. ;-)

You mentioned some Caribbean bookies during the show. Apart from Pinnacle, can you name some others that offer better odds than most UK bookies?



Morning Greeky.

Seeing as you made that point (enboldened), I'll expand on it slightly.

When we have Guests, either for the poker, or betting Preview Shows, the Guests do NOT get paid. They just get their travelling expenses, &, if they travel from afar, a hotel room for the night.

Additionally, & this was quite a tough spot for Neil last night, they can ONLY promote Sky Bet Markets, for obvious reasons. Quite a tough spot, really.

He was also only allowed the briefest 15 or 20 seconds to spam Betting Emporium. There are reasons for that, & I understand them, but it's worth you & others being aware.

I've had several of my friends on as Guests in these situations, Tighty has been on several times, for instance, & these rules apply to them all.  I wanted Phil on (Bobby1) for our US Masters & Cheltenham Betting Shows last year, for example, but commercial conflicts of interest got in the way.

I must add that I'm very good friends with Mr Camel, & respect his judgement muchly, but I've never invited him on a Sky Bet financed Show. I'm not wholly convinced he would accept.........


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Post by: GreekWay on January 31, 2014, 10:21:09 AM
Thanks for the reply TK.

I know that guests don't get paid so I think it definitely depends on them if they want to appear for 3-4 hours on the TV and I also believe that most of the guests come due to the fact that they honour your friendship. Well if Orford was the presenter I doubt Neil will have joined you so spot on for picking the eight presenter for that show. :)

I also understand how hard it is to promote Skybet and personally think it should be allowed to Neil (or any other guy that offers a betting service) to "spam" a minute or two about that. You know it could be like sky's sort of saying welcome for being on the show. Also BE is not like a direct competitor of Sky (not like Blackbelt) so I think a spam should be allowed.

I believe the quality of the betting previews has been very good so looking forward to watching some more in the future.


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Post by: tikay on January 31, 2014, 11:29:48 AM
Thanks for the reply TK.

I know that guests don't get paid so I think it definitely depends on them if they want to appear for 3-4 hours on the TV and I also believe that most of the guests come due to the fact that they honour your friendship. Well if Orford was the presenter I doubt Neil will have joined you so spot on for picking the eight presenter for that show. :)

I also understand how hard it is to promote Skybet and personally think it should be allowed to Neil (or any other guy that offers a betting service) to "spam" a minute or two about that. You know it could be like sky's sort of saying welcome for being on the show. Also BE is not like a direct competitor of Sky (not like Blackbelt) so I think a spam should be allowed.

I believe the quality of the betting previews has been very good so looking forward to watching some more in the future.

I can't really disagree, but I DO understand the reasons.

The logic - I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's a fact - is that if BE was allowed to be spammed freely, & people go there & see links to Sky Bet competitors, da de da. Bookmaking is fiercely competitive, as it is so profitable. Next up, Bert Smith of Bert Smith Tipping Line, sort of thing. I can tell you there was a robust debate in the Office about what Neil could or could not do or say on the Show, & it was all rather awkward for me, with a foot in both camps, so to speak.

"Honour my friendship"? Not sure about that, but I'm very grateful when my friends accept the invites. Cambridge Alex will be on the poker version in February, & he might be an EPT winner by then, so it cuts both ways.

It's a very awkward thing, wearing several hats. I've made over 20,000 Posts on the Sky Forum, & never once mentioned blonde. Weird, 'innit, but that's how major Business Corporations think, there are more Rules than you could begin to imagine, & my shoes get very uncomfortable at times.

Anyway, for now, BE & blonde have excellent relations, & I intend that it continues that way. I can influence that, decide it even, but I have no such power next door.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on February 01, 2014, 04:15:07 PM
Any idea when the superbowl bets will be released?

thanks

Neil Channing has just just published 'Three Nice Props to Start'.

The plan is to publish some more at 3pm tomorrow and a final message with everything summarised and a few more between 5pm and 6pm tomorrow.


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Post by: Bad Beat on February 02, 2014, 04:10:28 PM
 I put two pretty interesting prop bets and four player yardage bets up about 45 minutes ago. That makes 9 bets in total so far.

 At around 5.30pm I'll be adding any further bets and giving my general late thoughts on the game for those who feel compelled to bet on a side and the total.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on February 05, 2014, 02:25:05 PM
Looking forward to the  PLD's bets.

Premier League Darts betting preview now up.


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Post by: Marky147 on February 06, 2014, 04:12:10 PM
Congrats on a successful Super Bowl, Neil!

Enjoyed the darts write ups, and looking forward to punting on the Oscars, too :)





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Post by: Bad Beat on February 09, 2014, 10:21:30 AM
 Thanks Mark.

 I am aware that some people are squeamish about paying for stuff and they missed out on the Super Bowl, but the good news is we do have some pretty decent free content. Dave put up 2 premier darts bets that went great and this fella Brodders is a massive expert on football leagues that I didn't even know existed.

 I don't think the tips are on the site yet, but if anyone is looking for some action they'll be three Portugese 2nd division and Italian Serie A and a Turkish Super League bet. I just read all the write-ups and they got me thinking..."how can these lose?".

 Keep an eye out for them.


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Post by: Kmac84 on February 09, 2014, 12:58:48 PM
this fella Brodders is a massive expert on football leagues that I didn't even know existed.

 I don't think the tips are on the site yet, but if anyone is looking for some action they'll be three Portugese 2nd division and Italian Serie A and a Turkish Super League bet. I just read all the write-ups and they got me thinking..."how can these lose?".

 Keep an eye out for them.

I know we can't all expect to win but having read the previews by Brodders over the past week it seems he absolutely knocked it in and some of the selections just looked like random punts. 

No doubt he probably put up winners the week before that I missed. 

To balance that the darts guy Dave certainly seemed to know his stuff. 


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Post by: Bad Beat on February 09, 2014, 01:05:29 PM
 I'm confused...I'm following him and I'm getting the lot. Mr Beevers is the man for recording results. I missed one day when he had a loser but generally all he has done is win. I think he's great.


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Post by: The Camel on February 09, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
this fella Brodders is a massive expert on football leagues that I didn't even know existed.

 I don't think the tips are on the site yet, but if anyone is looking for some action they'll be three Portugese 2nd division and Italian Serie A and a Turkish Super League bet. I just read all the write-ups and they got me thinking..."how can these lose?".

 Keep an eye out for them.

I know we can't all expect to win but having read the previews by Brodders over the past week it seems he absolutely knocked it in and some of the selections just looked like random punts. 

No doubt he probably put up winners the week before that I missed. 

To balance that the darts guy Dave certainly seemed to know his stuff. 

I haven't backed any of Brodders selections yet - but I am reading his columns with interest.

I think calling some of his bets "random punts" is harsh in the extreme.

As far as I can see he's put a lot of work into his picks and his knowledge seems excellent.

One losing week doesn't prove anything. Even Tikay loses now and again.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on February 09, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
this fella Brodders is a massive expert on football leagues that I didn't even know existed.

 I don't think the tips are on the site yet, but if anyone is looking for some action they'll be three Portugese 2nd division and Italian Serie A and a Turkish Super League bet. I just read all the write-ups and they got me thinking..."how can these lose?".

 Keep an eye out for them.

I know we can't all expect to win but having read the previews by Brodders over the past week it seems he absolutely knocked it in and some of the selections just looked like random punts.  

No doubt he probably put up winners the week before that I missed.  

To balance that the darts guy Dave certainly seemed to know his stuff.  

If you go to his Tips page and scroll down you can read everything he has written for Bettingemporium so far right from the start. He started off great with four winning days from four and then had three losing days to follow. In the Twente game he really liked the over and recommended several connected bets that needed at least 3 goals and the final score was 0-2 unfortunately. I'm guessing that Neil missed that and you are talking about most recent Tips when you say 'he absolutely knocked it in'.

I will update his sheet (all results are made available on BE) and post the full results so far but he is definitely a few points behind now. It is still a very small sample (7 games not inc today) that we have on BE for Brodders. If you would like a bigger sample of his selections go to thehendonmob forum and search for his 'Sports Betting Challenges'. Over a much longer period he ran £1,000 into £5,000 for his first challenge and he won over £14,500 in a total of four public challenges.

We get quite a few people emailing us and asking if they can write for us. We are very careful to only choose people that we believe can make money in the long term. Everyone knows I'm a bit of a nit and don't like giving it away.  ;) Brodders is nearly always a max bet on my spreadsheet.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on February 17, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
The Cheltenham Festival 2014 (Preview and Antepost) - 'An Unmissable Bet for Free' by Neil Channing now on-site.


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Post by: ripple11 on February 17, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
The Cheltenham Festival 2014 (Preview and Antepost) - 'An Unmissable Bet for Free' by Neil Channing now on-site.

Really looking forward to Neil's analysis and tips.....worth every penny :)


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Post by: TightEnd on February 18, 2014, 09:01:13 AM
Our friends at Betting Emporium have set up a sign up code for blonde members

Cheltenham is £30 per day or £99 for the complete week (4 days) and various preview posts to access Neil Channing's analysis, tips and thoughts which provided so well for people who read them last year.

Please use this link for to sign up in time for Cheltenham and thereafter, and blondepoker will benefit from you doing so

http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker


thanks


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Post by: Bad Beat on February 26, 2014, 01:01:32 PM
 Just to say, in case anyone missed the 5/1 on my unmissable bet, I do actually think it's an even better bet today at 9/2 for various reasons...mostly the ground and the even greater chance of non-runners. I've just gone in again and I'd suggest you do.

 If you don't have a clue what I'm talking about go to Betting Emporium and take a look. It's free.


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Post by: Omm on February 26, 2014, 01:35:55 PM
Just to say, in case anyone missed the 5/1 on my unmissable bet, I do actually think it's an even better bet today at 9/2 for various reasons...mostly the ground and the even greater chance of non-runners. I've just gone in again and I'd suggest you do.

 If you don't have a clue what I'm talking about go to Betting Emporium and take a look. It's free.

Neil, what's your thoughts on the 4-1 (instead of the 9/2) with Ladbrokes with money back as free bet upto £25 if Fly comes 1st or 2nd?


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Post by: Bad Beat on February 27, 2014, 12:20:58 AM
 That makes 4/1 better than 9/2 I reckon.


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Post by: Omm on February 27, 2014, 05:17:55 PM
Neil, how long in advance will you be giving out selections. Say for example I sign up for Tuesday 11th, will it be on the day or will you have some before ( apart from what you have given for free) ?


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 01, 2014, 08:32:53 PM
Neil, how long in advance will you be giving out selections. Say for example I sign up for Tuesday 11th, will it be on the day or will you have some before ( apart from what you have given for free) ?

Neil can answer this better than me but I believe the plan is to publish everything on each race day apart from perhaps any more ante-post write ups and analysis that he does. The ante post write up will probably be published in both the Cheltenham Package tip category and also the day that it relates to category.

It anyone hasn't already signed up to Bettingemporium and you intend to do so please use this Blonde affiliate link to do so:

http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 01, 2014, 08:36:30 PM
Neil has done an in depth write up and analysis on the 2014 Oscars and has found at least two great bets.

It is now published and is free to access to all registered users.


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Post by: tikay on March 03, 2014, 07:42:26 AM

Thanks for the lovely winner Neil.

I missed the 9/2 (Helium) but still very happy with 4/1. 



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Post by: Bad Beat on March 04, 2014, 08:49:21 AM
 I hate to whine about knock-backs because that really is part of the game and we all must just work harder to bet smarter and get the money on. In a month where Ladbrokes announced yet more bad figures and the share-price fell again I must share this story of my attempt to back Helium, simply because I have literally no idea what these people are trying to achieve now and I really think they have even less idea...

 I was tracking the prices on Betfair on the Oscars by a simple method of noting the best price with any bookmaker I could find about a month ago for every nominee in every category and having a check on Betfair for any liquidity. As we got to two weeks away I began looking every few days at the prices and more firms were coming up with prices on all categories. Stan James were the 1st to do all 24 and soon Betfair started to have a price you could bet on for every nominee, just to very modest amounts.

 At this stage Ladbrokes and Hills were just betting on the 6 "main categories" plus foreign movie and possibly one other.

 About a week before I noticed more firms having prices for all 24 and the Betfair market started to have two-way prices on most nominees. You could now bet £50 on most people at a reasonable margin.

 Now Ladbrokes chose to offer prices on all 24 categories with a few days to go. There were only 8 in this years Oscars where the favourite was bigger than 1/4 and in many there were just two or three real contenders.

 On Friday night I decided to take a real look and I read every single website I could find that had an Oscar preview. It took me around four hours. For Live Action Short it seemed that people were split between two films and one of those was Helium. The price on Betfair was around 4.3-4.4 with money waiting either side but with more money waiting to back the movie. That seemed reasonable to me as many people saw it as a straight race with The Voorman Problem at 10/11. You could probably back both.

 I took a new look at all the prices from the bookies and at that point 1st noticed Ladbrokes were 6/1 Helium.

 You waited until the last four days to price up, when all other firms had already done that and then you decided to go 6/1 when someone on Betfair wanted £80 at 4.4 and between 20 firms around the world the next best price was 9/2 (from Hills who also had prices for less than a week).

 Surely if your job is to deal the Oscars for Ladbrokes and you are last up with prices then you should take a look at what is on offer just on Oddschecker and Betfair? It would take 5 mins. The only motive I can fathom is they had a massive opinion. Maybe we could have a big bet here...



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on March 04, 2014, 09:11:12 AM
...obviously the shops is the only way to get on. They have these things on what they name their "call-over" system. You needn't write a slip, it's set up in the machine, the cashier doesn't need to spend time looking for prices they just type Helium and it comes up 6/1 for Best Live Action Short Oscar. You try to bet what you want and it will tell you if you've exceeded the maximum and you'll be presented with a printed ticket. Until you get the exact maximum right by trial and error we can't know what it might be.

 At Rayner's Lane a guy is watching a ticker which shows all maximum bets coming on any market via shops on call-over bets or via the internet, text or telephone. If a bet comes up max twice and one is a shop he may ring the shop and ask who the customer is and what they want.

 I had a few people in shops ready to help with horses on Saturday and I asked them to bet Helium whenever they could.

 Ten minutes after I asked the market on Best Live Action Short was suspended. I had not yet got any sort of bet on. Ladbrokes seemed to still be offering the favourite at 4/7 (2.2 Betfair) and the outsider at 50/1 (100/1 Betfair) but the other fims came up suspended. One bet placer told me they had been offered £5 which they  declined.

 Four hours later I rang customer services to ask if they had Oscar prices and then to ask if they had Best Live Action Short. Oddschecker showed Helium at 6/1 but the Ladbrokes website said "market suspended". They said it wasn't available and I asked if they could make it available again as I wanted a bet. They noted my query and three hours later I called again.

 At this stage nobody had got 1p on and all that had happened was someone tried to bet £50 and declined to bet £5.

 The second time I called they insisted on getting my account details, (Ladbrokes rarely close accounts they just restrict a lot of them), before they would do anything. I asked if there were prices and if there were plans to open the market. By now it was 7pm on Saturday. I planned a Saturday night stroll round 20 shops.

 The telephonist came back and told me quite curtly...

 "the trader said you can have £5 at 6/1"

 I hadn't even asked for a selection and I just wanted 6/1 to appear so I might slip a few bets through in the shops. I declined hoping they might just put 5/1 up and leave it there. I posted my article on Betting Emporium and I went out to the shops.

 1st shop I went in they say they don't bet on the Oscars. The guy then asks how to spell Oscars. I tell him and we wait 5 minutes. Then he asks what are the Oscars. I explain and suddenly a light-bulb appears. He had thought I was asking for first goalscorer. A drunk man approached the counter and put his face inches from my head. I let him go first.

 I was offered 4/1.

 In the end I backed Helium at 9/2 and 4/1 in very many shops. In the last Hills shop I went to they told me £50 at 9/2 and £50 at 7/2. I thought maybe "the rest at SP".

 The film went as short as 7/4 in the minutes before the off.

 If I hadn't have bet on this film and tipped it on Betting Emporium I would guess they would see almost no action on this category. In the end they got lots of action.

 I can see an argument for providing a full service of markets as a barrier of entry to new firms and as a way of ensuring that VIP customers can find everything they could ever want to bet on and never need to take their casino and FOBT business elsewhere.

 I just cannot understand the decisions here though. When I hear people say they must be ripe for a takeover and the share price is too low I think about Saturday and the many days of similar experiences with similar firms.

 They must all be a massive sell, they are all staffed by incompetent morons. The management have no idea what they are doing and no way of improving things and the people right at the top are the worst. Imagine when the FOBTs go how can they survive at all?

 We must punish these people while they are still here and operating the way they do.


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Post by: Tal on March 04, 2014, 09:17:12 AM
They said it wasn't available and I asked if they could make it available again as I wanted a bet.


Brilliant!


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Post by: arbboy on March 04, 2014, 11:17:25 AM
...obviously the shops is the only way to get on. They have these things on what they name their "call-over" system. You needn't write a slip, it's set up in the machine, the cashier doesn't need to spend time looking for prices they just type Helium and it comes up 6/1 for Best Live Action Short Oscar. You try to bet what you want and it will tell you if you've exceeded the maximum and you'll be presented with a printed ticket. Until you get the exact maximum right by trial and error we can't know what it might be.

 At Rayner's Lane a guy is watching a ticker which shows all maximum bets coming on any market via shops on call-over bets or via the internet, text or telephone. If a bet comes up max twice and one is a shop he may ring the shop and ask who the customer is and what they want.

 I had a few people in shops ready to help with horses on Saturday and I asked them to bet Helium whenever they could.

 Ten minutes after I asked the market on Best Live Action Short was suspended. I had not yet got any sort of bet on. Ladbrokes seemed to still be offering the favourite at 4/7 (2.2 Betfair) and the outsider at 50/1 (100/1 Betfair) but the other fims came up suspended. One bet placer told me they had been offered £5 which they  declined.

 Four hours later I rang customer services to ask if they had Oscar prices and then to ask if they had Best Live Action Short. Oddschecker showed Helium at 6/1 but the Ladbrokes website said "market suspended". They said it wasn't available and I asked if they could make it available again as I wanted a bet. They noted my query and three hours later I called again.

 At this stage nobody had got 1p on and all that had happened was someone tried to bet £50 and declined to bet £5.

 The second time I called they insisted on getting my account details, (Ladbrokes rarely close accounts they just restrict a lot of them), before they would do anything. I asked if there were prices and if there were plans to open the market. By now it was 7pm on Saturday. I planned a Saturday night stroll round 20 shops.

 The telephonist came back and told me quite curtly...

 "the trader said you can have £5 at 6/1"

 I hadn't even asked for a selection and I just wanted 6/1 to appear so I might slip a few bets through in the shops. I declined hoping they might just put 5/1 up and leave it there. I posted my article on Betting Emporium and I went out to the shops.

 1st shop I went in they say they don't bet on the Oscars. The guy then asks how to spell Oscars. I tell him and we wait 5 minutes. Then he asks what are the Oscars. I explain and suddenly a light-bulb appears. He had thought I was asking for first goalscorer. A drunk man approached the counter and put his face inches from my head. I let him go first.

 I was offered 4/1.

 In the end I backed Helium at 9/2 and 4/1 in very many shops. In the last Hills shop I went to they told me £50 at 9/2 and £50 at 7/2. I thought maybe "the rest at SP".

 The film went as short as 7/4 in the minutes before the off.

 If I hadn't have bet on this film and tipped it on Betting Emporium I would guess they would see almost no action on this category. In the end they got lots of action.

 I can see an argument for providing a full service of markets as a barrier of entry to new firms and as a way of ensuring that VIP customers can find everything they could ever want to bet on and never need to take their casino and FOBT business elsewhere.

 I just cannot understand the decisions here though. When I hear people say they must be ripe for a takeover and the share price is too low I think about Saturday and the many days of similar experiences with similar firms.

 They must all be a massive sell, they are all staffed by incompetent morons. The management have no idea what they are doing and no way of improving things and the people right at the top are the worst. Imagine when the FOBTs go how can they survive at all?

 We must punish these people while they are still here and operating the way they do.

Ladbrokes are by far and away the worst of the lot shop wise imo.  I have recently been told my business is not welcome of any size (not even £25 at sp stuff) in any local ladbrokes shop.  When i asked 'what if the senior traders at head office really want to lay something that i want to back for serious money? the reply from the shop manager was 'i make the decisions who gets bets in my shop not head office' which i thought was comical but i generally think the guy was being serious.  Its comical that shop managers have the ability to totally close 'accounts' effectively based purely on small sample P+L figures in their shop/local areas which are totally results driven.  It takes no account of the bigger picture of what the more senior/highly paid 'traders' at HQ want to lay they would simply never be told of the bets i wish to place in their shops because of this shop managers decision.  There seems to be huge 'margin' pressure on ladbrokes shop managers at the minute from above and they seem to be in total lock up defense mode.


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Post by: arbboy on March 04, 2014, 11:29:05 AM
...obviously the shops is the only way to get on. They have these things on what they name their "call-over" system. You needn't write a slip, it's set up in the machine, the cashier doesn't need to spend time looking for prices they just type Helium and it comes up 6/1 for Best Live Action Short Oscar. You try to bet what you want and it will tell you if you've exceeded the maximum and you'll be presented with a printed ticket. Until you get the exact maximum right by trial and error we can't know what it might be.

 At Rayner's Lane a guy is watching a ticker which shows all maximum bets coming on any market via shops on call-over bets or via the internet, text or telephone. If a bet comes up max twice and one is a shop he may ring the shop and ask who the customer is and what they want.

 I had a few people in shops ready to help with horses on Saturday and I asked them to bet Helium whenever they could.

 Ten minutes after I asked the market on Best Live Action Short was suspended. I had not yet got any sort of bet on. Ladbrokes seemed to still be offering the favourite at 4/7 (2.2 Betfair) and the outsider at 50/1 (100/1 Betfair) but the other fims came up suspended. One bet placer told me they had been offered £5 which they  declined.

 Four hours later I rang customer services to ask if they had Oscar prices and then to ask if they had Best Live Action Short. Oddschecker showed Helium at 6/1 but the Ladbrokes website said "market suspended". They said it wasn't available and I asked if they could make it available again as I wanted a bet. They noted my query and three hours later I called again.

 At this stage nobody had got 1p on and all that had happened was someone tried to bet £50 and declined to bet £5.

 The second time I called they insisted on getting my account details, (Ladbrokes rarely close accounts they just restrict a lot of them), before they would do anything. I asked if there were prices and if there were plans to open the market. By now it was 7pm on Saturday. I planned a Saturday night stroll round 20 shops.

 The telephonist came back and told me quite curtly...

 "the trader said you can have £5 at 6/1"

 I hadn't even asked for a selection and I just wanted 6/1 to appear so I might slip a few bets through in the shops. I declined hoping they might just put 5/1 up and leave it there. I posted my article on Betting Emporium and I went out to the shops.

 1st shop I went in they say they don't bet on the Oscars. The guy then asks how to spell Oscars. I tell him and we wait 5 minutes. Then he asks what are the Oscars. I explain and suddenly a light-bulb appears. He had thought I was asking for first goalscorer. A drunk man approached the counter and put his face inches from my head. I let him go first.

 I was offered 4/1.

 In the end I backed Helium at 9/2 and 4/1 in very many shops. In the last Hills shop I went to they told me £50 at 9/2 and £50 at 7/2. I thought maybe "the rest at SP".

 The film went as short as 7/4 in the minutes before the off.

 If I hadn't have bet on this film and tipped it on Betting Emporium I would guess they would see almost no action on this category. In the end they got lots of action.

 I can see an argument for providing a full service of markets as a barrier of entry to new firms and as a way of ensuring that VIP customers can find everything they could ever want to bet on and never need to take their casino and FOBT business elsewhere.

 I just cannot understand the decisions here though. When I hear people say they must be ripe for a takeover and the share price is too low I think about Saturday and the many days of similar experiences with similar firms.

 They must all be a massive sell, they are all staffed by incompetent morons. The management have no idea what they are doing and no way of improving things and the people right at the top are the worst. Imagine when the FOBTs go how can they survive at all?

 We must punish these people while they are still here and operating the way they do.

Ladbrokes are by far and away the worst of the lot shop wise imo.  I have recently been told my business is not welcome of any size (not even £25 at sp stuff) in any local ladbrokes shop.  When i asked 'what if the senior traders at head office really want to lay something that i want to back for serious money? the reply from the shop manager was 'i make the decisions who gets bets in my shop not head office' which i thought was comical but i generally think the guy was being serious.  Its comical that shop managers have the ability to totally close 'accounts' effectively based purely on small sample P+L figures in their shop/local areas which are totally results driven.  It takes no account of the bigger picture of what the more senior/highly paid 'traders' at HQ want to lay they would simply never be told of the bets i wish to place in their shops because of this shop managers decision.  There seems to be huge 'margin' pressure on ladbrokes shop managers at the minute from above and they seem to be in total lock up defense mode.

Dancing on Ice market is just another example of what Neil has stated above on the oscars.  This market is well formed was up all day yday and there was a relatively large drift on the jolly.  Lads opened up 1/5 9/2 10/1 3 hours after sunday night's show.  Similar to everyone else in the market.  During Monday there was a slow and steady drift on the jolly and plenty of 'live' cash in decent amounts for the 2nd fav at 5/1 hills/888 and lads were 2nd at 9/2.  Pretty much every firm has shortened the 2nd fav over the course of Monday.  People have been asking for under 4/1 on bf for decent cash (over £500 has been matched under 4/1 yday) ladbrokes are still holding their original prices.  I assume its opinion and/or liability driven based on their ante post book yet if you try to ring them up and/or bet in a shop you simply cannot get on yet i assume they wish to lay the 2nd fav given they have held the price for nearly 36 hours now.  If i went into my local shops and asked for £500 at 9/2 the head office traders may want to lay the bet for liability reasons etc etc (they may have laid a mug £20k at 1/20 ray weeks ago and are quite happy to accommodate 9/2 hayley backers but the head office will never know about my desire to bet because the shop just refuses to refer my bets to head office.


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Post by: TightEnd on March 04, 2014, 11:56:20 AM
I wanted to contact the Paddy Power Chief Exec yesterday. Was offered 50p on a Cheltenham offer they heavily advertised etc etc. Was going to try to get a sensible amount on and appeal to his sense of fair play. My lifetime Paddy Power account is in loss

All links to the PP Corporate site are broken from search engines, the betting site, head office would give me an investor relations email. I wrote to them but got an automated response that there would be no reply unless I was a corporate investor or on the shareholders register as an individual

I went to a shop, been in it once lifetime. Tried to place the bet. Got referred and cut back


The industry just looks in a complete mess to me.


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Post by: Marky147 on March 04, 2014, 11:59:06 AM
Good shout on the Oscars, Neil!

I started reading the update, but got called away whilst reading it, and completely forgot about it.

Well done to everyone who got on, with their fiver it appears :(


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Post by: tikay on March 04, 2014, 12:02:57 PM
Good shout on the Oscars, Neil!

I started reading the update, but got called away whilst reading it, and completely forgot about it.

Well done to everyone who got on, with their fiver it appears :(

That's exactly how much Ladbrokes allowed me. Wm Hill took my full bet, no questions asked.


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Post by: arbboy on March 04, 2014, 12:51:11 PM
I wanted to contact the Paddy Power Chief Exec yesterday. Was offered 50p on a Cheltenham offer they heavily advertised etc etc. Was going to try to get a sensible amount on and appeal to his sense of fair play. My lifetime Paddy Power account is in loss

All links to the PP Corporate site are broken from search engines, the betting site, head office would give me an investor relations email. I wrote to them but got an automated response that there would be no reply unless I was a corporate investor or on the shareholders register as an individual

I went to a shop, been in it once lifetime. Tried to place the bet. Got referred and cut back


The industry just looks in a complete mess to me.

It is in a mess but to add some balance to the argument i was talking to a well known professional gambler/poker player at the weekend who said he had just been into a paddy power shop for the first time ever in this town and requested £300 at 30/1 on 1-0 sunderland in the carling cup final.  He showed me the betting slip as i didn't believe him.  Paddy were top price on their own at 30/1 on oddschecker and bf was 29.0-30.0 for £400 either side and they took the bet after referring it to head office and were still 30/1 several hours later when the betfair price was unchanged.

It just seems it is so hit and miss getting on which is the frustrating thing.  It just seems totally random whether u run into a trader at their head office who likes to actually lay a bet or one that is scared to death.


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Post by: Marky147 on March 04, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Good shout on the Oscars, Neil!

I started reading the update, but got called away whilst reading it, and completely forgot about it.

Well done to everyone who got on, with their fiver it appears :(

That's exactly how much Ladbrokes allowed me. Wm Hill took my full bet, no questions asked.

Ha!

They're not all bad, well some of the time :)


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Post by: redarmi on March 04, 2014, 01:18:12 PM
It's interesting how experiences differ.  My experience of Ladbrokes shops is the exact opposite of Marks.  Every firm has its bad moments obviously but my general experience with Ladbrokes is that they will generally lay a bet and avoid the really embarrassing knock backs (although obv a fiver at 6/1 is ridiculous).  Corals on the other hand make offered me £25 on a horse at 9/2 when I asked for £80 the first time I ever walked through the doors of one of their shops and it wasn't a really hot race (think it went off at 9/2) or bad ew etc.  Fred I find similar.  Hills and Paddys seems to flit between the two generally being okay-ish but then being ridiculously bad on occasions.  It is amazing how times have changed.  I used to manage some of Ladbrokes better properties about 18-20 years ago and I can only ever remember knocking back a bet once and we daily took 4 figure bets and there were plenty of bigger bets too.


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Post by: TightEnd on March 05, 2014, 11:11:02 AM
Neil plans to add another Cheltenham ante-post write up today/tomorrow, in the £99 Cheltenham package

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Post by: ripple11 on March 05, 2014, 11:23:55 AM

Cheers to Brodders for Spain U21's bet last night. :)


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Post by: junior91 on March 05, 2014, 08:20:45 PM
I've just signed up to the £99 chelt package, when I click on the link all I see is the list of races. Has there not been any writeups posted yet?


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 06, 2014, 08:51:09 AM
 Not yet. I'm basically only going to post something when it fits my criteria...

a. I think it will shorten significantly prior to the race or the each-way terms are very advantageous.

b. It's available at a price we can all get on. There is no point finding something only available with 888 at 20/1 when all other firms are 12/1.

c. We can bet non-runner no bet. Corals, Fred and Paddy of the high street firms are now NRNB so I have stepped up my search for bets.

 I do think I have found a few bets now and I plan to write some things for later today. For people who have gone for the £30 option you just get the write-up if it appears in "your" day. £99 punters will obviously be able to see everything.

 I'm pretty excited about Cheltenham and it's tempting to go mad having loads of ante post bets while the "phoney war" is happening this week. I think I'm slightly better than the firms at figuring who goes to which races and that means I have an edge...I'm likely to bet things that shorten.

 Next week though is a massive shop-window for the industry, they'll be enhanced place terms, price boosts, we'll know exactly what the going is and the composition of each race.

 I think it's a close call between waiting and going in now. I'm taking it case by case.

 


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 06, 2014, 03:21:10 PM
A second ante-post write up Amazing Early Gold Cup Value has just been published on the site and is available to everyone that signs up for the £99 Package and those who sign up to the Gold Cup Day on it's own (Day 4 Fri March 14th) for £30.

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Post by: RickBFA on March 06, 2014, 06:44:57 PM
...obviously the shops is the only way to get on. They have these things on what they name their "call-over" system. You needn't write a slip, it's set up in the machine, the cashier doesn't need to spend time looking for prices they just type Helium and it comes up 6/1 for Best Live Action Short Oscar. You try to bet what you want and it will tell you if you've exceeded the maximum and you'll be presented with a printed ticket. Until you get the exact maximum right by trial and error we can't know what it might be.

 At Rayner's Lane a guy is watching a ticker which shows all maximum bets coming on any market via shops on call-over bets or via the internet, text or telephone. If a bet comes up max twice and one is a shop he may ring the shop and ask who the customer is and what they want.

 I had a few people in shops ready to help with horses on Saturday and I asked them to bet Helium whenever they could.

 Ten minutes after I asked the market on Best Live Action Short was suspended. I had not yet got any sort of bet on. Ladbrokes seemed to still be offering the favourite at 4/7 (2.2 Betfair) and the outsider at 50/1 (100/1 Betfair) but the other fims came up suspended. One bet placer told me they had been offered £5 which they  declined.

 Four hours later I rang customer services to ask if they had Oscar prices and then to ask if they had Best Live Action Short. Oddschecker showed Helium at 6/1 but the Ladbrokes website said "market suspended". They said it wasn't available and I asked if they could make it available again as I wanted a bet. They noted my query and three hours later I called again.

 At this stage nobody had got 1p on and all that had happened was someone tried to bet £50 and declined to bet £5.

 The second time I called they insisted on getting my account details, (Ladbrokes rarely close accounts they just restrict a lot of them), before they would do anything. I asked if there were prices and if there were plans to open the market. By now it was 7pm on Saturday. I planned a Saturday night stroll round 20 shops.

 The telephonist came back and told me quite curtly...

 "the trader said you can have £5 at 6/1"

 I hadn't even asked for a selection and I just wanted 6/1 to appear so I might slip a few bets through in the shops. I declined hoping they might just put 5/1 up and leave it there. I posted my article on Betting Emporium and I went out to the shops.

 1st shop I went in they say they don't bet on the Oscars. The guy then asks how to spell Oscars. I tell him and we wait 5 minutes. Then he asks what are the Oscars. I explain and suddenly a light-bulb appears. He had thought I was asking for first goalscorer. A drunk man approached the counter and put his face inches from my head. I let him go first.

 I was offered 4/1.

 In the end I backed Helium at 9/2 and 4/1 in very many shops. In the last Hills shop I went to they told me £50 at 9/2 and £50 at 7/2. I thought maybe "the rest at SP".

 The film went as short as 7/4 in the minutes before the off.

 If I hadn't have bet on this film and tipped it on Betting Emporium I would guess they would see almost no action on this category. In the end they got lots of action.

 I can see an argument for providing a full service of markets as a barrier of entry to new firms and as a way of ensuring that VIP customers can find everything they could ever want to bet on and never need to take their casino and FOBT business elsewhere.

 I just cannot understand the decisions here though. When I hear people say they must be ripe for a takeover and the share price is too low I think about Saturday and the many days of similar experiences with similar firms.

 They must all be a massive sell, they are all staffed by incompetent morons. The management have no idea what they are doing and no way of improving things and the people right at the top are the worst. Imagine when the FOBTs go how can they survive at all?

 We must punish these people while they are still here and operating the way they do.

Totally agree about punishing them - especially when they have offers on like the Ladbrokes Man Utd Chelsea one.

I'm trying to milk the PoddyPower Cheltenham offer at the moment.

I now have a group of "friends" who will do the rounds as well when required which helps.

My experience of doing the rounds of the shops is 95% of staff are either 19 year old kids or 60 year old ladies who haven't got a clue about what you are doing and don't care. That can be a pain but if you visit a few shops its generally a blessing.



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Post by: TightEnd on March 10, 2014, 05:48:46 PM
I thought Neil's Ryanair write up was interesting, out today

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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 11, 2014, 11:06:59 AM
The first Tuesday write up has just been posted: 'Supreme Value' Neil has picked out two big priced each way bets.

You can get access to all four days of Neil's write ups and selections on: www.bettingemporium.com

The cost per day is £30 for full access, or you can subscribe to all four days inclusive for just £99.


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Post by: rfgqqabc on March 11, 2014, 11:46:56 AM
What time will the other writeups go up? Roughly how long before?


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Post by: Omm on March 11, 2014, 11:48:47 AM
Great write ups so far, highly recommend if you haven't signed up do it straight away. Fantastic reasoning and analysis. Top drawer.


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Post by: TightEnd on March 11, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
What time will the other writeups go up? Roughly how long before?

The Arkle has just gone up

So thats the first two races done

As fast as Neil can gather his thoughts and write them I suppose!


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Post by: rfgqqabc on March 11, 2014, 12:44:53 PM
Thanks a lot Neil, top bombing so far.

As a brief aside and not really being sure where else to put this, I think 365 being top price for all but two of the horses in the first is genius. Anyone just having a flutter will have their cash in those accounts from then on.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 11, 2014, 01:42:01 PM
Write ups for all  of Tuesday's Cheltenham races have been published.



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Post by: Kmac84 on March 11, 2014, 06:43:56 PM
Was it a good day for BE?  I was humming and hawing over buying the package but decided against it on the basis that its Cheltenham and i would prefer to win or lose on my own.  I have heard of groups chucking in £20 each though and 5 of them having the info, seems pretty low to me. 


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 11, 2014, 06:50:12 PM
Was it a good day for BE?  I was humming and hawing over buying the package but decided against it on the basis that its Cheltenham and i would prefer to win or lose on my own.  I have heard of groups chucking in £20 each though and 5 of them having the info, seems pretty low to me. 

It was a disappointing day for us. The good news though is that tomorrow has no bearing on what happened today and Neil has done and will still be doing a huge amount of work for the remaining three days. I have followed Neil's judgement for a long time now and I will continue to do so as I know that he is a long term winner.

There is a t&c that says that information can not be shared and if people do share they could have their accounts closed with no refunds. We can't really do much other than that though unfortunately.

Each of the remaining three days are £30 each.


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 11, 2014, 07:08:18 PM
 Feeling a bit sick now. Our Conor was a big bet and I'm sad that such a good horse is lost. I gave a great mention to Jezki in the race and could of easily tipped it but I decided to stick with one and then I decided it wouldn't be great to tip four or more horses in the last so I mentioned my shortlist and said it had proved too tough for me. The shortlist included the winner and as 20/1 place.

 Despite that I am now dealing with lots of people on Facebook who don't seem to be subscribed slagging me off. Not sure how they know what I bet or how they have the time to care.

 I certainly feel I was right to predict fast ground and that really can't help Sire du Grugy. All the offers tomorrow will be around that one.


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Post by: Dubai on March 11, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
"Better to be known and hated than never to be known at all"


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Post by: Tal on March 11, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
Sorry to hear it didn't go to plan today. Evidently, people think getting an intelligent opinion on a race card of day one at Cheltenham means dead certs and loadsamoney. And they definitely understand variance. I expect they'll be upset at having lost some of their stake money for their premier league acca for Saturday.



I remember a comment a wise sage once made in response to an NFL bet he stuck up on Twitter. It lost and he got a load of abuse from people about the fact they'd followed him and done their stake.

His observation was that he'd probably lost more on that bet than everyone who'd followed the bet put together.

Forget the fella's name. Didn't win the Poker Million anyway. That much I know.



All the best for the rest of the week. If you get stuck, ask Mr Brammer.


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Post by: Kmac84 on March 11, 2014, 07:46:37 PM
GL tomorrow guys!

I can't remember if I have asked this before but its certainly something I'd be more interested in. Is there a consideration to have a subscription only service but have an annual membership, or is it just going to be sign ups for one off events. 

I suppose the issue is trying to price how much the service is worth and if people would be prepared to pay that to start with especially for recreational punters. 


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 11, 2014, 07:51:21 PM
GL tomorrow guys!

I can't remember if I have asked this before but its certainly something I'd be more interested in. Is there a consideration to have a subscription only service but have an annual membership, or is it just going to be sign ups for one off events. 

I suppose the issue is trying to price how much the service is worth and if people would be prepared to pay that to start with especially for recreational punters. 

If we had an established annual schedule of events for a year that would be a good idea. I think people would be paying not really not knowing what they were exactly getting if we did it now though.


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Post by: Omm on March 11, 2014, 08:09:38 PM
A fantastic horse was lost today, we can recoup the money. Forget the haters Neil and carry on as you were.


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Post by: arbboy on March 11, 2014, 08:30:30 PM
A fantastic horse was lost today, we can recoup the money. Forget the haters Neil and carry on as you were.

No such haters on superbowl night when the service 'hosed' up.  One of my poker mates paid £99 for the week today from BE who loves a punt and has won a fortune following it as he had the CH winner ew which Neil effectively tipped up but didn't put it up as an account bet.  He won plenty laying other horses Neil said were too short in the betting as well.  He said the write ups were amazing on a race by race basis with far more information than he was expecting.


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Post by: Omm on March 11, 2014, 08:50:49 PM
A fantastic horse was lost today, we can recoup the money. Forget the haters Neil and carry on as you were.

No such haters on superbowl night when the service 'hosed' up.  One of my poker mates paid £99 for the week today from BE who loves a punt and has won a fortune following it as he had the CH winner ew which Neil effectively tipped up but didn't put it up as an account bet.  He won plenty laying other horses Neil said were too short in the betting as well.  He said the write ups were amazing on a race by race basis with far more information than he was expecting.

Everyone is silent when it works, come out of the woodwork when it's not exact. Your right, In quite a few races Neil's reasoning was spot on, but you have to make a choice eventually and today it hit the woodwork, a different choice and all of a sudden CH winner and last race "officially on the books" and it's in profit.

I didn't even get back the price of the day today (unfortunately the week is just out of my reach) however I have no doubt Neil will be in profit over the week as those choices go in swings and swongs and good luck to him too, don't know him personally but seems to wear his heart on his sleeve and stands by his convictions and that's good enough for me.

Good luck for the rest of the week chaps.


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Post by: ripple11 on March 11, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
A fantastic horse was lost today, we can recoup the money. Forget the haters Neil and carry on as you were.

No such haters on superbowl night when the service 'hosed' up.  One of my poker mates paid £99 for the week today from BE who loves a punt and has won a fortune following it as he had the CH winner ew which Neil effectively tipped up but didn't put it up as an account bet.  He won plenty laying other horses Neil said were too short in the betting as well.  He said the write ups were amazing on a race by race basis with far more information than he was expecting.

This.

I don't have time these days to spend time analysing the races. The write ups are just what I want to "mix" with my own thoughts, and point me in the right direction for both backing and laying.


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Post by: rfgqqabc on March 11, 2014, 09:06:34 PM
Was it a good day for BE?  I was humming and hawing over buying the package but decided against it on the basis that its Cheltenham and i would prefer to win or lose on my own.  I have heard of groups chucking in £20 each though and 5 of them having the info, seems pretty low to me. 

It was a disappointing day for us. The good news though is that tomorrow has no bearing on what happened today and Neil has done and will still be doing a huge amount of work for the remaining three days. I have followed Neil's judgement for a long time now and I will continue to do so as I know that he is a long term winner.

There is a t&c that says that information can not be shared and if people do share they could have their accounts closed with no refunds. We can't really do much other than that though unfortunately.

Each of the remaining three days are £30 each.
Having 4 out of the 5 fallers didn't help. Bit gutted reading about the last now, I chose to keep my powder dry. I didn't really trust myself after the meh day and getting stuck a bit more didn't take my fancy. Looking forward to  the rest of the week and I'm extremely happy with the overall info as I expected to be. Not sure why I didn't sign up a week before instead of this morning, not like it would have mattered.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 12, 2014, 09:00:29 AM
Day 2 Weds 12th March

The write ups for the Neptune (130pm) and the Queen Mother Champion Chase (320pm) have now been published


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 12, 2014, 12:13:26 PM
The RSA, The Coral Cup and the Cross Country are all now up.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 12, 2014, 12:59:08 PM
The write ups for the The Fred Winter & the Bumper have now been published. All seven races for day 2 are now available


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Post by: StuartHopkin on March 12, 2014, 01:34:29 PM
Great write ups so far

Lets hope today is a little more fruitful

I am on and currently sat at work looking like this...

(http://fermentation-com.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/scared.jpg)


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Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2014, 04:14:39 PM
very good stuff today

Module, Somersby etc


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Post by: ripple11 on March 12, 2014, 04:31:53 PM
 Reading through the Cross Country race, Neil basically gives you the tricast !


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 13, 2014, 10:44:36 AM
The Stayers Hurdle (3.20pm), Revisiting the Ryan Air (2.40pm) and the JLT (1.30pm) are all up.


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Post by: Tal on March 13, 2014, 10:18:13 PM
"Even if Benfica outclass a demoralised Tottenham side I still see both sides scoring so either way, over 2.5 goals is priced far too high".

Nice call.


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Post by: rfgqqabc on March 14, 2014, 09:48:21 AM
Neil I don't have the quickest way to contact you but 888/Racebets are 4 places today for the Triumph.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 14, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
All races for the final day of the festival have now been written up and posted.


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Post by: simonnatur on March 14, 2014, 01:19:04 PM
Neil,
Very much enjoyed today's write ups and appreciate the effort that must go into them. I wasn't in a position to subscribe for the whole week, but a very lucky each-way double on Ballynagour and Springheeled changed all that yesterday! So I had some profits to reinvest.
Wondered if you will make the whole week's write ups free to view at some point?
Anyway good luck with your bets.


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Post by: TightEnd on March 14, 2014, 01:51:07 PM
Brilliance, thank you!


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Post by: Eso Kral on March 14, 2014, 02:09:02 PM
Brilliance, thank you!


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Post by: simonnatur on March 14, 2014, 02:12:41 PM
+1


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Post by: TightEnd on March 14, 2014, 03:58:08 PM
Utterly stupendeous

what a tip that was.


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Post by: ripple11 on March 14, 2014, 03:59:02 PM
 FML

 ;tightend;


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Post by: Eso Kral on March 14, 2014, 04:02:19 PM
Too good Mr C

TY for getting me out of Cheltenham unscathed!!


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Post by: Bad Beat on March 14, 2014, 04:05:01 PM
 I feel sorry for the people who took the trouble to write on day 1 to say how poor the service was and how they weren't ever interested in buying from us again.

 Thanks guys. Pray for the stewards.


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Post by: Bazzaboy on March 14, 2014, 04:16:11 PM
Top top work. Thank you.


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Post by: arbboy on March 14, 2014, 08:05:23 PM
i know you have one happy customer (poker mate of mine) who loved your service all week but is fuming that you titled the gold cup update 'blue rib' instead of how you titled the others throughout the week.  He didn't read it and read the original GC preview as he thought it was the only one and just backed teafourthree and not the other selection and missed the 33/1 GC winner.  He backed every other horse of yours all week as well as the CH winner which you didn't tip up as a selection on the service so overall he is winning but has missed the crown jewels on the GC.



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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 14, 2014, 08:13:03 PM
i know you have one happy customer (poker mate of mine) who loved your service all week but is fuming that you titled the gold cup update 'blue rib' instead of how you titled the others throughout the week.  He didn't read it and read the original GC preview as he thought it was the only one and just backed teafourthree and not the other selection and missed the 33/1 GC winner.  He backed every other horse of yours all week as well as the CH winner which you didn't tip up as a selection on the service so overall he is winning but has missed the crown jewels on the GC.



Every time something was published an email went out and we Tweeted. The email entitled 'Blue Riband' says The write up for The Gold Cup (320pm) has just been published.

The tip starts...

The Blue Riband
Posted on 14 Mar 2014 10:08 in Cheltenham Festival Tues 11th - Fri 14th March 2014 (Package)

 The Gold Cup at 3.20 is the most prestigious race of the week. I talked about it the other day ...


Why would he not read everything written?

I hope he was still happy as even without the GC winner it was still a winning week overall. Frustrating and costly mistake though...


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Post by: arbboy on March 14, 2014, 08:20:17 PM
i know you have one happy customer (poker mate of mine) who loved your service all week but is fuming that you titled the gold cup update 'blue rib' instead of how you titled the others throughout the week.  He didn't read it and read the original GC preview as he thought it was the only one and just backed teafourthree and not the other selection and missed the 33/1 GC winner.  He backed every other horse of yours all week as well as the CH winner which you didn't tip up as a selection on the service so overall he is winning but has missed the crown jewels on the GC.



Every time something was published an email went out and we Tweeted. The email entitled 'Blue Riband' says The write up for The Gold Cup (320pm) has just been published.

The tip starts...

The Blue Riband
Posted on 14 Mar 2014 10:08 in Cheltenham Festival Tues 11th - Fri 14th March 2014 (Package)

 The Gold Cup at 3.20 is the most prestigious race of the week. I talked about it the other day ...


Why would he not read everything written?

I hope he was still happy as even without the GC winner it was still a winning week overall. Frustrating and costly mistake though...

He said the service was top class and admitted it was his mistake missing it.  He doesn't talk through his wallet so knows it was his fault just frustrated. 


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Post by: Omm on March 14, 2014, 08:25:05 PM
Well done Neil, sums my Cheltenham up when the day I choose is your only losing day! Anyway long term thinking, different strategy next year (make sure I've got the money for the whole week)

Quick story. Annie Power gave me a free bet, I was looking for a home for it and was pretty hot on Arctic Fire (2nd) was surprised that Hills gave me the free bet again (not complaining) at this point my wife said she would pick a horse, why not after the week I've had. Deputy Dan (2nd) was her choice, now I'm expecting the free bet again from Hills and they oblige. Wife says "Let Madison (she's four) pick she always wins"  I think about it and think no I like Thomas Crapper a lot so I'll do him ( we know what happened there) Anyway in between placing the Crapper bet and the race we had the Gold Cup to go, all the kids pick a horse - Madison chooses........... Lord Windermere!

Morale of the story, if all else fails, listen to your kids. Although I did think it was quite a gesture from Hills to keep giving me free bets even though I'd placed it with a free bet.


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Post by: Kmac84 on March 14, 2014, 10:38:53 PM
Well done BE.  Maybe I should have signed up afterall, coud have bought steak for dinner. 

I done my conquers on Annie Power despite repeatedly telling myself 3 mile wasn't her trip.  Blah de blah.   Annoying think is I backed the winner of that Race back on a cold day n November and thought then it could be worth following.  FML.


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Post by: arbboy on March 14, 2014, 10:55:24 PM
i know you have one happy customer (poker mate of mine) who loved your service all week but is fuming that you titled the gold cup update 'blue rib' instead of how you titled the others throughout the week.  He didn't read it and read the original GC preview as he thought it was the only one and just backed teafourthree and not the other selection and missed the 33/1 GC winner.  He backed every other horse of yours all week as well as the CH winner which you didn't tip up as a selection on the service so overall he is winning but has missed the crown jewels on the GC.



Every time something was published an email went out and we Tweeted. The email entitled 'Blue Riband' says The write up for The Gold Cup (320pm) has just been published.

The tip starts...

The Blue Riband
Posted on 14 Mar 2014 10:08 in Cheltenham Festival Tues 11th - Fri 14th March 2014 (Package)

 The Gold Cup at 3.20 is the most prestigious race of the week. I talked about it the other day ...


Why would he not read everything written?

I hope he was still happy as even without the GC winner it was still a winning week overall. Frustrating and costly mistake though...

He said the service was top class and admitted it was his mistake missing it.  He doesn't talk through his wallet so knows it was his fault just frustrated. 

He has tried to send you an email personally but said it got rejected from the address on your site.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 14, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
i know you have one happy customer (poker mate of mine) who loved your service all week but is fuming that you titled the gold cup update 'blue rib' instead of how you titled the others throughout the week.  He didn't read it and read the original GC preview as he thought it was the only one and just backed teafourthree and not the other selection and missed the 33/1 GC winner.  He backed every other horse of yours all week as well as the CH winner which you didn't tip up as a selection on the service so overall he is winning but has missed the crown jewels on the GC.



Every time something was published an email went out and we Tweeted. The email entitled 'Blue Riband' says The write up for The Gold Cup (320pm) has just been published.

The tip starts...

The Blue Riband
Posted on 14 Mar 2014 10:08 in Cheltenham Festival Tues 11th - Fri 14th March 2014 (Package)

 The Gold Cup at 3.20 is the most prestigious race of the week. I talked about it the other day ...


Why would he not read everything written?

I hope he was still happy as even without the GC winner it was still a winning week overall. Frustrating and costly mistake though...

He said the service was top class and admitted it was his mistake missing it.  He doesn't talk through his wallet so knows it was his fault just frustrated. 

He has tried to send you an email personally but said it got rejected from the address on your site.

Is he using support@bettingemporium.com ?


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Post by: arbboy on March 14, 2014, 11:16:52 PM
i know you have one happy customer (poker mate of mine) who loved your service all week but is fuming that you titled the gold cup update 'blue rib' instead of how you titled the others throughout the week.  He didn't read it and read the original GC preview as he thought it was the only one and just backed teafourthree and not the other selection and missed the 33/1 GC winner.  He backed every other horse of yours all week as well as the CH winner which you didn't tip up as a selection on the service so overall he is winning but has missed the crown jewels on the GC.



Every time something was published an email went out and we Tweeted. The email entitled 'Blue Riband' says The write up for The Gold Cup (320pm) has just been published.

The tip starts...

The Blue Riband
Posted on 14 Mar 2014 10:08 in Cheltenham Festival Tues 11th - Fri 14th March 2014 (Package)

 The Gold Cup at 3.20 is the most prestigious race of the week. I talked about it the other day ...


Why would he not read everything written?

I hope he was still happy as even without the GC winner it was still a winning week overall. Frustrating and costly mistake though...

He said the service was top class and admitted it was his mistake missing it.  He doesn't talk through his wallet so knows it was his fault just frustrated. 

He has tried to send you an email personally but said it got rejected from the address on your site.

Is he using support@bettingemporium.com ?

yes

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

support@bettingemporium.com


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 14, 2014, 11:23:51 PM
yes

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.


We haven't had any issues with emails. Could you ask him to forward the return (as above) to joe (at) joebeevers.com and I'll try and work out what is happening please?

Email headers would be ideal.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 15, 2014, 01:57:07 PM
All of Neil's Cheltenham write ups are now available for everyone to read on the website as well as full betting summaries and detailed results.


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Post by: GreekWay on March 20, 2014, 04:25:43 AM
What are you planning for Aintree/Grand National guys? Same price as Cheltenham? £30/day?


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 25, 2014, 12:46:31 AM
What are you planning for Aintree/Grand National guys? Same price as Cheltenham? £30/day?

We are just finalising Aintree plans and the site should be updated in the next day or so. I know it's hard to believe but Mr C has taken a few days holiday.

Any one like to hazard a guess for his holiday destination?


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Post by: BigAdz on March 25, 2014, 07:53:14 AM
Landofsavingmoney.....gogogocompare?


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Post by: Tal on March 25, 2014, 08:36:38 AM
It's obviously the Great Barrier Reef, where you can find the world's largest coral.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 25, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
It's obviously the Great Barrier Reef, where you can find the world's largest coral.

Good effort, no cigar.

You'll kick yourself...


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Post by: TightEnd on March 25, 2014, 10:15:09 AM


Any one like to hazard a guess for his holiday destination?

Southwell. Ether that or Ffos Las.


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Post by: Marky147 on March 25, 2014, 01:59:53 PM
The Vic?


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Post by: tikay on March 25, 2014, 02:48:21 PM
What are you planning for Aintree/Grand National guys? Same price as Cheltenham? £30/day?

We are just finalising Aintree plans and the site should be updated in the next day or so. I know it's hard to believe but Mr C has taken a few days holiday.

Any one like to hazard a guess for his holiday destination?



Too easy.



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Post by: redarmi on March 25, 2014, 03:28:56 PM
If that is Windermere then he has made a big mistake.  No betting shops there.  I got married on Grand National day close by and the guests were so disgusted by the lack of betting facilities we had to run a book ourselves!!!


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Post by: TightEnd on March 26, 2014, 10:21:33 AM
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Cheltenham 2014 - Results Summary

Winners at 40/1, 11/1, 10/1 and 6/1 - Neil tipped Lord Windermere at 40/1 to win the Gold Cup.

Seconds at 18/1, 16/1, 14/1, 7/1 and 7/1. Thirds at 20/1 and 6/1

Three winning days out of four - Profit +417.50 points to recommended stakes - ROI +69.24%


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Post by: ripple11 on March 26, 2014, 11:07:47 AM
Talking of The National.....here a comp where I don't think Crabbies bank manager will be losing much sleep over!.....

Every time you play our Donkey Derby game you'll be entered into the draw where 3 lucky people will be chosen randomly and invited to come along to the Crabbie’s Grand National as VIP guests. While there, you will predict the first 4 horses past the post - get them correct and you win £1MILLION!


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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 27, 2014, 02:37:51 PM


Any one like to hazard a guess for his holiday destination?

Southwell. Ether that or Ffos Las.

Cigar for Tikay!





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Post by: JoeBeevers on March 27, 2014, 04:13:16 PM
Caption comp?



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Post by: BigAdz on March 27, 2014, 04:34:29 PM
Lets hope he backs Bog Warrior for the National......that would be an interesting holiday.


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Post by: Omm on March 27, 2014, 07:03:35 PM
Caption comp?



Neil travels hundreds of miles to find a bookie that will take his bet. He came across this one back in the Stone Age.


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Post by: Marky147 on March 31, 2014, 06:07:47 PM
Lets get Aintree on the go, and a 33/1 winner would be lovely if you could, Neil ;)

Although I got out of Cheltenham intact, I didn't have a 33/1 winner on the last day, and was gutted as I watched my 25/1 ticket for Next Sensation go up in smoke as Johnson rode him like Frankel in the Grand Annual...

Only reason I didn't buy the festival was that the majority of my AP stuff actually made it there, no doubt by luck more than judgement, and I would have wanted to back everything that you had put up as well!

Can't beat a bit of coffee and Morning Line on a midweek morning  ;yippee;


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Post by: Bad Beat on April 01, 2014, 01:03:30 AM
 It's going to be tough to match Cheltenham and I'm feeling the pressure already. All I can do is work as hard and hope there are some good bets. If there aren't I'll keep stakes lower or not bet at all. Luckily there are a few races that are guaranteed to offer us an advantage.

 Tomorrow will be a long day of study.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on April 02, 2014, 01:25:57 PM
Anyone who is signing up for the Aintree three day festival (starts tomorrow) please make sure to use the Blonde affiliate link:

http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker





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Post by: TightEnd on April 03, 2014, 01:05:56 PM
Anyone who is signing up for the Aintree three day festival (starts tomorrow) please make sure to use the Blonde affiliate link:

http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker





tips for the 2pm, 2.40pm, 3.05pm and 3.40pm are up

link above, tyvm in advance :-)


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Post by: Bad Beat on April 04, 2014, 05:29:17 AM
 Planning to have everything up a bit earlier today. The alarm clock failed yesterday and I was "only" up at 7am.


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Post by: StuartHopkin on April 04, 2014, 05:20:43 PM
Clondaw can go blow a goat!

Still think my Bet365 account may be in jeopardy!


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Post by: rfgqqabc on April 04, 2014, 05:25:32 PM
I'm sure it'll return nicely but that has to be the definition of crossbar surely.


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Post by: simonnatur on April 04, 2014, 05:33:25 PM
Wow, agonisingly close, no idea  how we didn't have a winner there. Better luck tomorrow.


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Post by: Bad Beat on April 04, 2014, 06:26:43 PM
 Got a 1.03, 1.5 and a 2.2 gubbed in one race! Feeling a bit sick.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on April 05, 2014, 11:01:24 AM
Got a 1.03, 1.5 and a 2.2 gubbed in one race! Feeling a bit sick.

 ::)

I guess that is the definition of having high expectations. Neil's selections only won 143 points yesterday, he had a 14/1 winner and 2nd,3rd and 4th in the same race (see Betfair matched prices above) plus others placed.


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Post by: TightEnd on April 05, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Different gravy, well done!


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Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 04:54:38 PM
Different gravy, well done!

You tipped PDR?

Fantastic stuff. Well done!


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Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 04:57:40 PM
Different gravy, well done!

You tipped PDR?

Fantastic stuff. Well done!

And 4th at 40-1

Gotta be a +400 point day so far. Well done Neil great showing this week.


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Post by: bobby1 on April 05, 2014, 05:13:49 PM
well done Neil.


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Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2014, 05:26:25 PM
I can't tell you how glad I was to see you put up 4 horses that I was already on in the national, and I wasn't forced to fire into another bunch :D

Congrats on another good week!


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Post by: Bad Beat on April 05, 2014, 05:49:45 PM
 Thanks guys, I thought I'd never get everything done today. Maybe the write-ups are too long. We have an all-night shop close by that isn't that close (800 yards). They get the papers at 4am. I got there at 3.50am. Stood in the shop waiting until 5am as the bloke was late. Just about got all my bets on and did the write ups but no time to eat or breathe. Still got a dozen texts asking what I fancied...I gave them 1...not the winner.


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Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 06:08:39 PM
Thanks guys, I thought I'd never get everything done today. Maybe the write-ups are too long. We have an all-night shop close by that isn't that close (800 yards). They get the papers at 4am. I got there at 3.50am. Stood in the shop waiting until 5am as the bloke was late. Just about got all my bets on and did the write ups but no time to eat or breathe. Still got a dozen texts asking what I fancied...I gave them 1...not the winner.

I think it's time you started discussing a daily service. Subscription of course.


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Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 06:27:30 PM
Sounds like a v good day. Wp.  ;hattip;


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Post by: JoeBeevers on April 05, 2014, 07:28:14 PM
All write ups are now available to read with a summary of all bets and results on the website.


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Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 09:02:42 PM
All write ups are now available to read with a summary of all bets and results on the website.

Just saying, but if I have a look now and it says

"I've heard Tal fancies Pineau de Re. He's due a win. Let's gamble
"

I'm going to be expecting commission.


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Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 09:44:11 PM
Battle Group may not even line up and race,



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Post by: Bad Beat on April 06, 2014, 09:47:34 AM
 It's so sad that Cheltenham, Liverpool, Ascot and the Derby are so rare. It's literally the only time that you could ever run this kind of service as the bookmakers just will not take bets.

 If we tried to run a monthly subscription with bets every day and we charged an amount that would attract the £30 a race punter we might have 200 people trying to all bet £30 on the same 8/1 chance at Ffos Las with Stan James and Bet365. They wouldn't even take £5 off most the people and everyone's accounts would soon get closed, we'd then have to start saying you can take 13/2 and then it's a lot harder to maintain a decent ROI.

 The alternative is to attract £200 a race punters, charge 5x as much and only have a few subscribers but then they really won't have any chance of betting with half the clowns on Oddschecker.

 If you ran a service that gave just a few really strong bets every four or five days then you could easily find things where 4/1 is fine if you missed the 6/1...I bet those things all the time and some people think I must be mad as I didn't get my £3.65 on overnight at 12/1. The problem with that is most people are not that patient...at least 20% of people who subscribed early for Cheltenham or Aintree sent a message in to ask why there were not lots of bets up three days before. I don't think people will pay and wait.

 I'm pretty happy with how it's working right now. It s a lot of work on the actual weeks and I found I didn't work as smoothly as I liked with my own bets because I was busy typing for a few hours. I employ several people to help during the big weeks and I just have to organise better and work smarter.

 In the next few days Ollie and I will be working on the Masters. He has really been in good form on the PGA tour over the last few months and he follows it more than most people I've ever met. The Masters offers such great value and they really do take bets so I'm excited about that. Dave is cracking away on the darts, Joe on the premier and Brodders on the European football. I love following all their stuff and you can read it for free. It's not so sexy backing 10/11 winners but that money is still money won and therefore sweeter than money earned.
 
 I don't see how we can do another horse race before the Derby. Even the Guineas and Oaks have such weak markets.


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Post by: tikay on April 06, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
Thanks guys, I thought I'd never get everything done today. Maybe the write-ups are too long. We have an all-night shop close by that isn't that close (800 yards). They get the papers at 4am. I got there at 3.50am. Stood in the shop waiting until 5am as the bloke was late. Just about got all my bets on and did the write ups but no time to eat or breathe. Still got a dozen texts asking what I fancied...I gave them 1...not the winner.

Personally, I love the detailed write-ups.

If I could change one tiny thing, I'd only like to see the reasons why you think (price/value excepted) you think a selection will win. You detail why you discard every horse (can't win because....) but not why the winner should win.   

I guess, in truth, if you tip 2 nice double-digit winners on a National afternoon, a one word write up would suffice.....


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Post by: Omm on April 06, 2014, 11:56:13 AM
It's so sad that Cheltenham, Liverpool, Ascot and the Derby are so rare. It's literally the only time that you could ever run this kind of service as the bookmakers just will not take bets.

 If we tried to run a monthly subscription with bets every day and we charged an amount that would attract the £30 a race punter we might have 200 people trying to all bet £30 on the same 8/1 chance at Ffos Las with Stan James and Bet365. They wouldn't even take £5 off most the people and everyone's accounts would soon get closed, we'd then have to start saying you can take 13/2 and then it's a lot harder to maintain a decent ROI.

 The alternative is to attract £200 a race punters, charge 5x as much and only have a few subscribers but then they really won't have any chance of betting with half the clowns on Oddschecker.

 If you ran a service that gave just a few really strong bets every four or five days then you could easily find things where 4/1 is fine if you missed the 6/1...I bet those things all the time and some people think I must be mad as I didn't get my £3.65 on overnight at 12/1. The problem with that is most people are not that patient...at least 20% of people who subscribed early for Cheltenham or Aintree sent a message in to ask why there were not lots of bets up three days before. I don't think people will pay and wait.

 I'm pretty happy with how it's working right now. It s a lot of work on the actual weeks and I found I didn't work as smoothly as I liked with my own bets because I was busy typing for a few hours. I employ several people to help during the big weeks and I just have to organise better and work smarter.

 In the next few days Ollie and I will be working on the Masters. He has really been in good form on the PGA tour over the last few months and he follows it more than most people I've ever met. The Masters offers such great value and they really do take bets so I'm excited about that. Dave is cracking away on the darts, Joe on the premier and Brodders on the European football. I love following all their stuff and you can read it for free. It's not so sexy backing 10/11 winners but that money is still money won and therefore sweeter than money earned.
 
 I don't see how we can do another horse race before the Derby. Even the Guineas and Oaks have such weak markets.


That all sounds fair enough Neil, pretty sure you will streamline it all somehow but it does all seem pretty smooth when reading on the site.That being said it can be frustrating when after paying for a service you are still waiting for bets at noon as normal life has to be set aside, but there are always two sides to a story and by the sounds of it you are not putting your feet up having a cup of tea so swings and swongs and all that.

I certainly love the write ups as well but by force of habit and time restraints if I have arranged something I will always place your recommends first and then go back and read the write up, more so that I can learn a thought process that will be useful for me. Something I would love to see which would be quite easy for you to do is highlight in bold or a background colour your recommends, anything to make them standout so they are quicker to see.

Anyway, big fan of what you and Joe are doing. Great work, hope it's paying off for both of you.


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Post by: Bad Beat on April 06, 2014, 12:22:23 PM
 With the Grand National I had written a lot of reasons detailing why I wouldn't back this and that and suddenly I looked at the clock and it was almost noon. I really wanted to get the race up by 11am and I thought I could take another 20 minutes explaining why I'm backing this 5 or I could get them up now.

 Obviously the small-field stakes races are much easier to do, less horses to write about and the form easier to assess quickly, know most of the horses so well, often there is an established ante-poste market. I always try and do those 1st.

 Yesterday I was coordinating a team of 10 people getting bets on and trying to read everything I could, as well as talking to a couple of other pros. In between that people asked me to get them bets on Football, rugby and a special bet (all of which won). There just aren't enough hours in the day on these big days.

 I have considered using that sound cloud thing and making it audio. What do people think about that?


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Post by: tikay on April 06, 2014, 12:29:45 PM
With the Grand National I had written a lot of reasons detailing why I wouldn't back this and that and suddenly I looked at the clock and it was almost noon. I really wanted to get the race up by 11am and I thought I could take another 20 minutes explaining why I'm backing this 5 or I could get them up now.

 Obviously the small-field stakes races are much easier to do, less horses to write about and the form easier to assess quickly, know most of the horses so well, often there is an established ante-poste market. I always try and do those 1st.

 Yesterday I was coordinating a team of 10 people getting bets on and trying to read everything I could, as well as talking to a couple of other pros. In between that people asked me to get them bets on Football, rugby and a special bet (all of which won). There just aren't enough hours in the day on these big days.

 I have considered using that sound cloud thing and making it audio. What do people think about that?

Yes, I sort of guessed that (ran out of time), and its not a problem, it was just a sort of observation.

I've no idea what "sound cloud" is, but personally, I prefer the written word. I read faster than people talk, and I'm forever short of time. When we read something, our mind, very cleverly, filters out the sort of irrelevant stuff, the stuff that joins up & contextualises, & just reads the "important" bits.

Again, personally, but I very rarely listen to Podcasts or watch You Tube Vids which exceed 3 minutes in length, due either to attention defecit syndrome, or just lack of time. But no matter how long a written piece is, I devour all of it.   


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Post by: JoeBeevers on April 07, 2014, 08:23:42 PM
Masters Tournament at Augusta - Outright Betting Write Up by @OllieNoonan1 just published - FREE to all registered users.

If you are registering on the site for the first time please use the Blonde link  http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker

thanks


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Post by: Tal on April 26, 2014, 12:51:28 AM
Will there be a set of TV BAFTAs tips?

(Have to ask these things...)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on April 26, 2014, 08:01:43 AM
Lol. No. I do quite like the BAFTAS, you can't really get a bet on and everyone knows the results though.

 Focus on following Brodders on the footy, Joe's premier footy and Dave on the snooker and the Prem League darts and you should be raking it in lately.

 I believe we are all now in profit.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on April 27, 2014, 08:12:40 PM
A pretty amazing day for us.

Brodders managed 10/12 and an amazing 10 winners from 10 bets in the Portuguese Second Division including winners at odds of 5.25, 4.33 and 5.5. Soccer write ups are currently still free to registered users.

I hope a few Blondes were on.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: McGlashan on May 20, 2014, 05:50:44 PM
Hi guys, what's your plans for the World Cup?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on May 20, 2014, 07:10:15 PM
Hi guys, what's your plans for the World Cup?

McGlashan, your timing is pretty good.  :) We have been working on it for a couple of weeks but only updated the site this afternoon. We have just about finished and you can see what our plans are and who we have helping us with the World Cup.

Anyone signing up please use this link so that Blonde benefit: http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker

There is a free preview on various markets regarding England up on the site already and there should be at least one more free article to come.

We plan to publish several ante post write ups and then daily ones once the first game starts on the 12th June.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: McGlashan on May 20, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Yeh I might of noticed it on your site when looking up Brodders tips ;) the guys showing a good return.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on May 21, 2014, 12:28:58 PM
Bettingemporium World Cup Squad ;-)

(http://www.bettingemporium.com/public/uploads/BE_Wall_final.jpg)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on May 22, 2014, 03:07:32 PM
We have just published another free to read article on the site written by 'Rory' - 'Brazil Value?'

On Mon 26th May we will be publishing a full write up on the Outright betting & Group markets with some great recommended betting selections!

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Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on May 24, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
For the tennis fans amongst you we have Nigel Seeley covering the French Open for us. We have just added write ups on the Men's and Women's outright markets.

He has put up what I think is a really great each way bet in the Women's.

Free to registered users.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: GreekWay on May 24, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
That's a nice addition. Well done guys.

Will you start covering tennis from now onwards or is this temporarily?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on May 24, 2014, 06:54:36 PM
That's a nice addition. Well done guys.

Will you start covering tennis from now onwards or is this temporarily?

We are planning to do Wimbledon and then we'll see after that.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: GreekWay on May 24, 2014, 07:07:16 PM
That's a nice addition. Well done guys.

Will you start covering tennis from now onwards or is this temporarily?

We are planning to do Wimbledon and then we'll see after that.

Great news. Looking forward to that.

Really like your write ups and the thing I like more is that they are free. You don't get that much for free nowadays. :-)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on May 25, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Nigel has written up a couple of tomorrow's first round games and found a couple of good spots.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on May 26, 2014, 01:01:44 PM
FIFA World Cup 2014

BE have just published a lengthy write up on the outright betting in the World Cup. Over the next few days we will have further write ups coming on other ante post markets including a great bet that we have found in the goalscorer markets that we think is priced just wrong by lazy odds-compilers.

The cost for the complete World Cup package is £99.99 and includes all the antepost write ups, the daily write ups once it starts and all games up to and including the final

Anyone signing up please use this link so that Blonde benefit: http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redarmi on May 26, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
I am not much of a salesman but  one thing I can say is that I have put in more hours on this world cup than any other event I can remember and I think there are some very good value bets including one coming up this week which just looks to be priced horribly wrong.  We can't guarantee winners unfortunately but subscribers can be guaranteed that they are giving themselves the best possible chance of winning.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on May 30, 2014, 04:17:55 PM


We have just published our first max bet for this years FIFA World Cup. Often one set of lazy odds compilers put up a price without doing the work and the others just follow. It's time to punish them.

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Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: McGlashan on May 30, 2014, 04:29:28 PM


We have just published our first max bet for this years FIFA World Cup. Often one set of lazy odds compilers put up a price without doing the work and the others just follow. It's time to punish them.

Anyone signing up please use this link so that Blonde benefit: http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker

nevermind i found the market eventually.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redarmi on May 30, 2014, 06:29:46 PM
Out of interest did you manage to get on?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: McGlashan on May 30, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
Out of interest did you manage to get on?

Yes, thank you. It took me a while to find it on Betfair Sportsbook, got some 5/2 before it crashed across the board.

It's always really helpful when you mention the minimum price you'll accept.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on June 02, 2014, 11:35:24 AM
Neil will be doing a write up on the Epsom Derby, Saturday June 7th. It's a tenner but you can get it for free - details are on the site.

Please use this link if registering for the first time: http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on June 05, 2014, 03:08:18 PM
Another free article published:  'Making the Most of the World Cup Offers'

Read it here: http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/32


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on June 07, 2014, 11:31:32 AM
Neil will be doing a write up on the Epsom Derby, Saturday June 7th. It's a tenner but you can get it for free - details are on the site.

Please use this link if registering for the first time: http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker

This is now published. Neil's detailed write up, thoughts and recommendations are now on the site.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on June 11, 2014, 01:59:01 PM
Betting Emporium ‏@bettingemporium

Golf - U.S. Open at Pinehurst - (June 12th-15th) new Write Up and thoughts by Neil Channing just published - FREE to reg'd users #USOpen


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on June 13, 2014, 09:01:04 AM
Details for Royal Ascot (June 17th-21st) posted on the site.

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Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on June 13, 2014, 09:02:37 AM
I would love to, but I'm going to resist getting involved just before Vegas... Best of luck guys!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redarmi on June 13, 2014, 02:20:48 PM
I would love to, but I'm going to resist getting involved just before Vegas... Best of luck guys!

Why would you want to take less money to Vegas?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redarmi on June 13, 2014, 05:35:15 PM
Alastair Campbell @campbellclaret
Am not a gambler but if you're after good World Cup analysis bettingemporium.com @bettingemporium Admit I'm biased, son writes for them



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on June 13, 2014, 08:34:17 PM
I would love to, but I'm going to resist getting involved just before Vegas... Best of luck guys!

Why would you want to take less money to Vegas?

:D

I'm actually flying out next weekend, so said I would sack Ascot off* and make sure I get all my work/life in order before going.


*other than antepost stuff


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: McGlashan on June 15, 2014, 01:46:40 AM
Bump. Redarmi's Ivory Coast suggested bet that was team news dependent be has came in.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: rfgqqabc on June 15, 2014, 02:15:33 AM
Bump. Redarmi's Ivory Coast suggested bet that was team news dependent be has came in.

I've read the report 3 times and still can't see what you mean.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: McGlashan on June 15, 2014, 02:24:47 AM
Bump. Redarmi's Ivory Coast suggested bet that was team news dependent be has came in.

I've read the report 3 times and still can't see what you mean.

pm sent.

it was on the Ivory Coast preview as opposed to any of the suggested bets within the last 24hours.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 17, 2014, 01:33:56 PM
 Was up pretty early but I still only just got the last race up. Liking the bets I've had today. Was feeling really nervous yesterday but I'm feeling pretty confident now.

 Hopefully get off to a good start.

 Lots of people asking if they pay £20 for today and then want to buy other days can they...?

 No.

 Do they get £20 off the £99.99...?

 No.

 Need to show some faith from the start.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on June 20, 2014, 04:57:58 PM
very fine day today Neil, well done


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on June 20, 2014, 05:34:15 PM
very fine day today Neil, well done

Very good indeed. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on June 20, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
very fine day today Neil, well done

Details please?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on June 20, 2014, 05:47:11 PM
I believe it is 4 out of 5 today

16/1, 16/1, 15/2, 4/1



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on June 20, 2014, 05:48:50 PM
I believe it is 4 out of 5 today

16/1, 16/1, 15/2, 4/1




Lordy Lordy!

I do all the BE horses in the Festivals, but I can't get on out here, so I missed this week.

Great stuff though, well done.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on June 20, 2014, 06:08:33 PM
 3rd and 4th in the last?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 20, 2014, 06:11:04 PM
Yep

Amazing day


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Nico29 on June 20, 2014, 06:21:04 PM
Incred day! :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on June 21, 2014, 06:07:30 PM
another good day i think, baccarat the highlight

won the war this week?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on June 21, 2014, 06:16:18 PM

Congrats on a great Royal Ascot. As I'm overseas, it was the first time I've not backed the BE stuff. Marv. 

For those who don't read their e-Mails, BE are doing the Wimbledon Tennis.

 



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 21, 2014, 06:16:44 PM
 Noses in front, Joe is probably just updating the results...I need a nap. I was sweating a little on Tuesday and I felt like we generally ran pretty bad but I'm happy to have 16/1, 14/1, 12/1, 8/1, 15/2, 4/1, 3/1 winners from 28 races I gave selections in.

 Hope you all got the lot.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on June 21, 2014, 06:21:09 PM
All write ups, analysis, bets and results for Royal Ascot are now available to read for all users on the site.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on June 21, 2014, 06:37:33 PM
Congrats on another winning festival chaps!

Glad that I stuck to my plan and hardly had a bet  [ ]


:D


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on June 21, 2014, 07:12:06 PM
 Bad luck Mark. You can't miss these big festivals though...always the best time to get money. Was just saying to Joe they should alternate each month Cheltenham Festival one month and Royal Ascot the next.

 I would be dead obviously.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on June 22, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
Great week all round Neil.  Good to see you turn it round so massively.  The Betting Emporium stuff > my stuff > Misclicks > WH offers.  Pretty sure I was up on them all.   It was so good to have a working beteveryday account. They were matching everyone else, paying extra places and randomly sending me money back every so often. 

Thanks again.  Not only is your own stuff very good, I am sure my own stuff has got better through some of the things you have said.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on June 22, 2014, 03:15:39 PM
For those that are interested we have Nigel Seeley covering Wimbledon for us.

He has already put up outrights for the men's and women's and some players to win their respective quarters. He also just put up a very interesting opening round match bet.

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Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on June 25, 2014, 06:13:36 PM
Any chance of an update on where things are with world cup bets on the site?

I am lost, I obvs never got involved with Channing's Ascot coup but feel as if I am knocking it in at the world cup.  I have accounts everywhere and trying to keep an eye on the money is proving a hard task.  Wish I'd set up a spreadsheet. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Nico29 on June 25, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
Pretty sure you're not down on the wc action so far if you are following advised stakes.

Especially not on the daily recs.

As for the outrights I can think of one or two decent positions just off the back of my head.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on June 25, 2014, 06:24:05 PM
Any chance of an update on where things are with world cup bets on the site?

I am lost, I obvs never got involved with Channing's Ascot coup but feel as if I am knocking it in at the world cup.  I have accounts everywhere and trying to keep an eye on the money is proving a hard task.  Wish I'd set up a spreadsheet. 

We will publish this at the end of the groups, probably Friday morning. If you want a look of my spreadsheet email joe @ bettingemporium.com and I'll email you the bets.

Matches are going v nicely indeed with a 45%+ ROI. Losing a few points on outrights but some value in there and those two Messi goals help a fair bit.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on June 25, 2014, 11:49:34 PM
Any chance of an update on where things are with world cup bets on the site?

I am lost, I obvs never got involved with Channing's Ascot coup but feel as if I am knocking it in at the world cup.  I have accounts everywhere and trying to keep an eye on the money is proving a hard task.  Wish I'd set up a spreadsheet. 

We will publish this at the end of the groups, probably Friday morning. If you want a look of my spreadsheet email joe @ bettingemporium.com and I'll email you the bets.

Matches are going v nicely indeed with a 45%+ ROI. Losing a few points on outrights but some value in there and those two Messi goals help a fair bit.

Cheers, that makes me feel a bit better, as long as I'm winning. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on June 27, 2014, 11:09:43 AM
Any chance of an update on where things are with world cup bets on the site?

I am lost, I obvs never got involved with Channing's Ascot coup but feel as if I am knocking it in at the world cup.  I have accounts everywhere and trying to keep an eye on the money is proving a hard task.  Wish I'd set up a spreadsheet. 

We will publish this at the end of the groups, probably Friday morning. If you want a look of my spreadsheet email joe @ bettingemporium.com and I'll email you the bets.

Matches are going v nicely indeed with a 45%+ ROI. Losing a few points on outrights but some value in there and those two Messi goals help a fair bit.

Cheers, that makes me feel a bit better, as long as I'm winning. 


All results so far and ante post summary are now published Kmac.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 14, 2014, 08:39:30 PM

We have just added a dedicated Results Section to the site with results summaries of all our bets since we launched in February 2013. We have always published all bets, analysis and full results on the site but the number of Tip Categories we have now was making that hard to navigate.

If you had bet £10 per point on every recommended bet since our launch in Feb 2013 you would be winning + £13,962.50

All recommended bets have an ROI +13.41% and Horse Racing has an ROI +38.75%

You can see the full section without registering here: http://www.bettingemporium.com/pages/view/results-section


We were getting a lot of e-mails asking similar questions and so have also built an FAQ section that can also be accessed without registration here:

http://www.bettingemporium.com/pages/view/frequently-asked-questions

Any comments or feedback is appreciated.




Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 16, 2014, 12:27:26 PM
Neil is working very hard on the Open Championship write up. We expect to publish it around 2pm. It's free to all registered users.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 16, 2014, 03:55:29 PM
Sorry for the delay, we had many interruptions, but the Open Championship write up has just been published and its free to all users.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 17, 2014, 02:24:58 PM
New weekly article coming soon...

'Road to Riches'
 

Richard 'Tighty' Prew will be writing a new weekly article for Bettingemporium.
 

It will be free to access and you do not need to register to read it either.
 

The first one will be published on Saturday morning 19th July 2014 and then become a regular feature looking at the betting week ahead.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2014, 10:00:36 AM
New weekly article coming soon...

'Road to Riches'
 

Richard 'Tighty' Prew will be writing a new weekly article for Bettingemporium.
 

It will be free to access and you do not need to register to read it either.
 

The first one will be published on Saturday morning 19th July 2014 and then become a regular feature looking at the betting week ahead.

This is live now

Neil has a couple of tips for Newbury this afternoon in it

Free to access and you do not need to be a registered user...

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 03:05:12 PM
Far too good.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 19, 2014, 03:05:30 PM
Fantastic Neil. Thank you.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
Remember if done with 365 you get the next race to the same stakes as a money back risk free bet.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 03:08:34 PM
Remember if done with 365 you get the next race to the same stakes as a money back risk free bet.

So that will be the 14:55 at Market Rasen.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on July 19, 2014, 03:11:08 PM
New weekly article coming soon...

'Road to Riches'
 

Richard 'Tighty' Prew will be writing a new weekly article for Bettingemporium.
 

It will be free to access and you do not need to register to read it either.
 

The first one will be published on Saturday morning 19th July 2014 and then become a regular feature looking at the betting week ahead.

This is live now

Neil has a couple of tips for Newbury this afternoon in it

Free to access and you do not need to be a registered user...

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44

Top tipping, that.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
Remember if done with 365 you get the next race to the same stakes as a money back risk free bet.

So that will be the 14:55 at Market Rasen.

Or looks like the delayed 14:20


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2014, 03:14:35 PM
New weekly article coming soon...

'Road to Riches'
 

Richard 'Tighty' Prew will be writing a new weekly article for Bettingemporium.
 

It will be free to access and you do not need to register to read it either.
 

The first one will be published on Saturday morning 19th July 2014 and then become a regular feature looking at the betting week ahead.

This is live now

Neil has a couple of tips for Newbury this afternoon in it

Free to access and you do not need to be a registered user...

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44

Top tipping, that.

Absolutely excellent tipping. Only saw it 10 minutes before the race, and the horse had come in to 16/1.  Gave it a disciplined miss obviously.  


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Teacake on July 19, 2014, 03:23:55 PM
Remember if done with 365 you get the next race to the same stakes as a money back risk free bet.

So that will be the 14:55 at Market Rasen.

Or looks like the delayed 14:20

It's still the 2.55 which is now due off at 3.30


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Teacake on July 19, 2014, 03:26:46 PM
Incredible tipping again btw just too good.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 03:32:34 PM
Remember if done with 365 you get the next race to the same stakes as a money back risk free bet.

So that will be the 14:55 at Market Rasen.

Or looks like the delayed 14:20

It's still the 2.55 which is now due off at 3.30

After successfully picking the loser this is the message I got:

Hi Scott,

We thought we'd let you know that we have credited your account with ***** following your losing bet FS6559431210L in the 2.20 Market Rasen.

Don't forget, back any single winner at 4/1 or more on any race televised live on Channel 4 and you can have a risk free bet to the same stake on the next Channel 4 race. ' More... '

Kind regards,
The bet365 Team

bet365 is committed to responsible gambling; for more information go to www.gambleaware.co.uk.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 03:33:44 PM
Remember if done with 365 you get the next race to the same stakes as a money back risk free bet.

So that will be the 14:55 at Market Rasen.

Or looks like the delayed 14:20

It's still the 2.55 which is now due off at 3.30

After successfully picking the loser this is the message I got:

Hi Scott,

We thought we'd let you know that we have credited your account with ***** following your losing bet FS6559431210L in the 2.20 Market Rasen.

Don't forget, back any single winner at 4/1 or more on any race televised live on Channel 4 and you can have a risk free bet to the same stake on the next Channel 4 race. ' More... '

Kind regards,
The bet365 Team

bet365 is committed to responsible gambling; for more information go to www.gambleaware.co.uk.


Unless you spoke to someone and they confirmed differently it was the 14:20.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Teacake on July 19, 2014, 03:36:28 PM
Yeah spoke to live chat due to the delay at MR and was told it was still the 2.55 delayed to 3.30


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 03:39:35 PM
Yeah spoke to live chat due to the delay at MR and was told it was still the 2.55 delayed to 3.30

Hope they honour it for you


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 19, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
Yeah spoke to live chat due to the delay at MR and was told it was still the 2.55 delayed to 3.30

I was told this too.  I have bet the 2:55 at MR.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Teacake on July 19, 2014, 04:17:01 PM
Yeah spoke to live chat due to the delay at MR and was told it was still the 2.55 delayed to 3.30

Hope they honour it for you

Backed the winner instead  :D


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on July 19, 2014, 04:19:43 PM
Yeah spoke to live chat due to the delay at MR and was told it was still the 2.55 delayed to 3.30

Hope they honour it for you

Backed the winner instead  :D

Well done, best way of avoiding an arguement!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: simonnatur on July 19, 2014, 05:04:00 PM
Too good Neil, thankyou. Almost makes me feel sorry for those Bookmaking chaps.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on July 26, 2014, 09:39:45 AM
This week's "The Road to Riches" is out

tip of the week from Neil for Ascot this afternoon

and much more...

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 26, 2014, 10:40:33 AM
Any chance Neil could stick something up about having a bankroll for following his selections. Traditionally I normally take a 100 @ x per point but Neil and BE's other tipsters seem to bet bigger than most in terms of points per selection.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 26, 2014, 05:17:56 PM
Any chance Neil could stick something up about having a bankroll for following his selections. Traditionally I normally take a 100 @ x per point but Neil and BE's other tipsters seem to bet bigger than most in terms of points per selection.

We added an FAQ section with the questions we get asked the most. There are questions on points bet and bankroll in there. You can read it here:

http://www.bettingemporium.com/pages/view/frequently-asked-questions

Anything else please just ask.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 26, 2014, 05:21:19 PM
Should have looked there first, cheers Joe.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on July 28, 2014, 05:52:56 PM
Good article

http://calvinayre.com/2014/07/28/business/growth-of-the-betting-emporium-with-neil-channing/


Glorious Goodwood starting tomorrw, you can follow every race with Neil for £99.99

Please use this link if registering for the first time: http://www.bettingemporium.com/?aff=blondepoker


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on July 28, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
 Tomorrow is going to be pretty hectic so I thought I'd try to head off some of the obvious questions so I can focus on picking winners.

 If you do decide to register for Betting Emporium for the 1st time do use the link that Tighty has provided as Joe and I have done an affiliate deal with Blonde and we'll be very happy to give a share of your fees to Blonde.

 The cost of the subscription is £99.99 a week which I personally think is too cheap for the work I am doing, so I'm sorry if it's too much for you, which it may be for a lot of smaller punters, and I'm more sorry if you can't see the value, all I do know is those that have tried the service are winning.

 My plan tomorrow is to wake up at 5am and start work. The less time I have to spend dealing with queries about why the tips are not there yet or I can't figure out how to click on the page the more time I'll have to study, write up the races and get my bets on and the happier I'll be. The answer to why don't you put them all up at the same time at 9am is simply "that is not how I work". I have spent some time today on the races but tomorrow I shall read everything I like to read online and in the Post, I shall narrow the horses I'm picking down and then I'll speak to a couple of pros I respect and discard the odd horse and figure out the staking plan.

 I think the results we have shown prove that this method works and it would be easier if people just buy into this method and let me get on with it. I didn't think it helped during Ascot to wade through abusive notes at the end of the 1st day which we lost on although I would say fair play to the one guy who tried to explain what I should be doing and how I could turn it round who then came back at the end of the week to congratulate us on the huge profit.

 I would basically say if you can't afford to lose then just don't do it, and if you can and we do lose then be assured that I'll have lost too, I wasn't trying to lose and we'll take it like men (or women) and move on.

 My plan is to bet on most of the races and in some I will definitely bet three horses, sometimes four. A lot of the bets I do will be each way and you can be assured that making a decision whether to bet win or each-way is something I've thought carefully about and I would recommend you to simply bet the ones I suggest as win bets to win and those I say each-way should be bet each-way. Sometimes it will look weird when I bet a 3/1 shot each-way and then in the next race a 50/1 shot to win but I can assure you I have made that decision for a good reason.

 My staking will be around 25 points a race but the stakes will vary enormously. In some races I may not bet at all or I could just find a 6 points win bet or even a 3 points win. In others I may have 10 or more points each-way on three or four horses. Obviously I will be making those decisions 100% based on how good value I consider the bet to be and I will pay no attention to how we are doing on the week at that stage. I am making all the decisions before the 1st race and so I won't be pressing just because we have had winners and I certainly won't chase. I would recommend you follow my policy.

 There are 7 races a day at Goodwood and if I bet an average of 25 points a race you will bet 875 points during the week. If you think you are a £1 a point punter on that basis then I would suggest that you should not buy. £99.99 is a lot to get back betting in those amounts and although I would expect to win around 18% long-term I think you are paying too much. If you choose to ignore me and go ahead good luck to you, I'm just warning you. I would suggest that £2 a point is a more reasonable MINIMUM that I would recommend people play for.

 Betting £2 a point does mean you will be laying out around £1750 and it could easily be more as I may go over the average. If you don't feel comfortable with that my main advice would be DO NOT GO AHEAD WITH THIS. We don't need your £99.99 that much and I'd rather not read about how I've lost someone more money than they thought possible or they could afford.

 Rest assured that if you bet horses with an average price of around 8/1 as I often do, and even bigger prices in the big festivals like Goodwood, you will have many losers, you will have painful losing days, some losing months and possible losing years. It can be possible that you have a long-term 5 year ROI of over 25% and you lose solidly for three months while doing exactly the same thing.

 I would generally say that each individual race should be no more than 3% of your total bankroll which means if you plan to play for £2 a point and bet in £50 a race then you'll need a tank of £1500. You can see though that by betting £1750 you could theoretically exceed that and go broke if we get ZERO returns which is unlikely but still possible. So many people have asked me questions about this stuff and there is no right answer. It simply depends on how risk averse you are.

 I'm going to leave it to the individual to decide.

 A couple of final points about getting on.

 It is hard. We always try with Betting Emporium to only tip with firms who are represented in the high street if the price is just with one firm or to tip when it's there with two. It doesn't seem fair to boast of a big-priced winner if you could only get on with Winner (who obviously won't lay any bets). When I tipped Lord Windermere for the Gold Cup you could get 40/ with Victor Chandler and Stan James and I tipped the horse at 33/1 which was available with some slightly less pathetic bookmakers. It's not fair if our results are based on fake prices so we make sure they are not. I will always tell you at what price you can still be happy and whether to switch to a lower price with worse place terms when that is relevant.

 It would be great if people with accounts that they know are heavily factored (you get 1% or 5% of the normal amounts that a new account would get) just don't bother using them. It simply alerts the bookmakers very cheaply and doesn't really help anyone. It would also be great if people don't immediately try and bet with Betfair at the price as this triggers the bookies robot software to cut prices.

 The fact that it is so hard to get bets on these days is the answer to the most frequently asked question which is why don't you do this every week?

 Finally, we have thought long and hard about our pricing. We would like to have a good number of customers as then if some people drop out after a bad week we don't have to worry too much. We also make a very small income from people opening accounts via the links on the site and it's good to have more people visiting.

 The flipside to this is that the more people who subscribe to the service the more the prices come under pressure and if we carry on being as successful as we have been we will find that nobody can get on as the first few bets alert the bookies and the prices go. We are all in this together really. If people keep the information to themselves and quietly do their bets we will all make more. If people chose to share the information then it will be a bigger fight for everyone to get the prices and some people may not get on. We would ask you not to share the information and to try to bet in a way that won't cause the prices to go instantly.

 In the future we may have to consider raising the pries so we have less customers and those that we have can get on. The flip side of that is the ones that don't care if we triple the price will bet bigger and it may have the same effect.

 It's never easy to know what to do.

 I shall have the 1st race up tomorrow by 9am at the latest and the others will follow at 30 minute intervals until noon.

 Good luck to all of us.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on July 29, 2014, 01:44:56 PM
Just a quickie Neil/Joe

The bet you have just added shows 1,2,3,4,5 the firm you mention are 1,2,3,4 in the opener

Sure you would spot it just trying to avoid getting you grief

Thanks


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 29, 2014, 01:51:55 PM
Just a quickie Neil/Joe

The bet you have just added shows 1,2,3,4,5 the firm you mention are 1,2,3,4 in the opener

Sure you would spot it just trying to avoid getting you grief

Thanks

I appreciate the message, however I just checked on the Coral site and they are definitely showing 1/4 1,2,3,4,5

Handicap (Class 2) 1m 1f 192y Going: Good Stalls: Low Each-way 1/4 the odds a place 1,2,3,4,5


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on July 29, 2014, 01:55:34 PM
Yep i get that Joe

However on the site it shows

"1/4 1,2,3,4,5 or 9/1 1/4 1,2,3,4 Bet365 or Sportingbet"

It made me use 365 just dont want it to cause an issue after the race for ur other subs


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on July 29, 2014, 01:57:41 PM
Er i have just re read that

what an idiot

Gd lk today/this week


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 29, 2014, 02:01:56 PM
Er i have just re read that

what an idiot

Gd lk today/this week

 :) No worries, and thanks


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: bookiebasher on July 29, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
Tomorrow is going to be pretty hectic so I thought I'd try to head off some of the obvious questions so I can focus on picking winners.

 If you do decide to register for Betting Emporium for the 1st time do use the link that Tighty has provided as Joe and I have done an affiliate deal with Blonde and we'll be very happy to give a share of your fees to Blonde.

 The cost of the subscription is £99.99 a week which I personally think is too cheap for the work I am doing, so I'm sorry if it's too much for you, which it may be for a lot of smaller punters, and I'm more sorry if you can't see the value, all I do know is those that have tried the service are winning.

 My plan tomorrow is to wake up at 5am and start work. The less time I have to spend dealing with queries about why the tips are not there yet or I can't figure out how to click on the page the more time I'll have to study, write up the races and get my bets on and the happier I'll be. The answer to why don't you put them all up at the same time at 9am is simply "that is not how I work". I have spent some time today on the races but tomorrow I shall read everything I like to read online and in the Post, I shall narrow the horses I'm picking down and then I'll speak to a couple of pros I respect and discard the odd horse and figure out the staking plan.

 I think the results we have shown prove that this method works and it would be easier if people just buy into this method and let me get on with it. I didn't think it helped during Ascot to wade through abusive notes at the end of the 1st day which we lost on although I would say fair play to the one guy who tried to explain what I should be doing and how I could turn it round who then came back at the end of the week to congratulate us on the huge profit.

 I would basically say if you can't afford to lose then just don't do it, and if you can and we do lose then be assured that I'll have lost too, I wasn't trying to lose and we'll take it like men (or women) and move on.

 My plan is to bet on most of the races and in some I will definitely bet three horses, sometimes four. A lot of the bets I do will be each way and you can be assured that making a decision whether to bet win or each-way is something I've thought carefully about and I would recommend you to simply bet the ones I suggest as win bets to win and those I say each-way should be bet each-way. Sometimes it will look weird when I bet a 3/1 shot each-way and then in the next race a 50/1 shot to win but I can assure you I have made that decision for a good reason.

 My staking will be around 25 points a race but the stakes will vary enormously. In some races I may not bet at all or I could just find a 6 points win bet or even a 3 points win. In others I may have 10 or more points each-way on three or four horses. Obviously I will be making those decisions 100% based on how good value I consider the bet to be and I will pay no attention to how we are doing on the week at that stage. I am making all the decisions before the 1st race and so I won't be pressing just because we have had winners and I certainly won't chase. I would recommend you follow my policy.

 There are 7 races a day at Goodwood and if I bet an average of 25 points a race you will bet 875 points during the week. If you think you are a £1 a point punter on that basis then I would suggest that you should not buy. £99.99 is a lot to get back betting in those amounts and although I would expect to win around 18% long-term I think you are paying too much. If you choose to ignore me and go ahead good luck to you, I'm just warning you. I would suggest that £2 a point is a more reasonable MINIMUM that I would recommend people play for.

 Betting £2 a point does mean you will be laying out around £1750 and it could easily be more as I may go over the average. If you don't feel comfortable with that my main advice would be DO NOT GO AHEAD WITH THIS. We don't need your £99.99 that much and I'd rather not read about how I've lost someone more money than they thought possible or they could afford.

 Rest assured that if you bet horses with an average price of around 8/1 as I often do, and even bigger prices in the big festivals like Goodwood, you will have many losers, you will have painful losing days, some losing months and possible losing years. It can be possible that you have a long-term 5 year ROI of over 25% and you lose solidly for three months while doing exactly the same thing.

 I would generally say that each individual race should be no more than 3% of your total bankroll which means if you plan to play for £2 a point and bet in £50 a race then you'll need a tank of £1500. You can see though that by betting £1750 you could theoretically exceed that and go broke if we get ZERO returns which is unlikely but still possible. So many people have asked me questions about this stuff and there is no right answer. It simply depends on how risk averse you are.

 I'm going to leave it to the individual to decide.

 A couple of final points about getting on.

 It is hard. We always try with Betting Emporium to only tip with firms who are represented in the high street if the price is just with one firm or to tip when it's there with two. It doesn't seem fair to boast of a big-priced winner if you could only get on with Winner (who obviously won't lay any bets). When I tipped Lord Windermere for the Gold Cup you could get 40/ with Victor Chandler and Stan James and I tipped the horse at 33/1 which was available with some slightly less pathetic bookmakers. It's not fair if our results are based on fake prices so we make sure they are not. I will always tell you at what price you can still be happy and whether to switch to a lower price with worse place terms when that is relevant.

 It would be great if people with accounts that they know are heavily factored (you get 1% or 5% of the normal amounts that a new account would get) just don't bother using them. It simply alerts the bookmakers very cheaply and doesn't really help anyone. It would also be great if people don't immediately try and bet with Betfair at the price as this triggers the bookies robot software to cut prices.

 The fact that it is so hard to get bets on these days is the answer to the most frequently asked question which is why don't you do this every week?

 Finally, we have thought long and hard about our pricing. We would like to have a good number of customers as then if some people drop out after a bad week we don't have to worry too much. We also make a very small income from people opening accounts via the links on the site and it's good to have more people visiting.

 The flipside to this is that the more people who subscribe to the service the more the prices come under pressure and if we carry on being as successful as we have been we will find that nobody can get on as the first few bets alert the bookies and the prices go. We are all in this together really. If people keep the information to themselves and quietly do their bets we will all make more. If people chose to share the information then it will be a bigger fight for everyone to get the prices and some people may not get on. We would ask you not to share the information and to try to bet in a way that won't cause the prices to go instantly.

 In the future we may have to consider raising the pries so we have less customers and those that we have can get on. The flip side of that is the ones that don't care if we triple the price will bet bigger and it may have the same effect.

 It's never easy to know what to do.

 I shall have the 1st race up tomorrow by 9am at the latest and the others will follow at 30 minute intervals until noon.

 Good luck to all of us.

Quality post. Your honesty, integrity and work ethic really shine through in that post.

Wish you and Joe a profitable Goodwood.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BorntoBubble on July 29, 2014, 02:11:32 PM
Love the point about how much per point you need to bet for it to be a good idea.

I really wanted to sign up this week but work is hectic, i already have a hefty outlay and then to put another £x,000 on with your tips makes me a little nervous!
I hope you crush, punish me and i will be signing up next time once ive fully recovered from Vegas!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 29, 2014, 02:13:02 PM
Tomorrow is going to be pretty hectic so I thought I'd try to head off some of the obvious questions so I can focus on picking winners.

 If you do decide to register for Betting Emporium for the 1st time do use the link that Tighty has provided as Joe and I have done an affiliate deal with Blonde and we'll be very happy to give a share of your fees to Blonde.

 The cost of the subscription is £99.99 a week which I personally think is too cheap for the work I am doing, so I'm sorry if it's too much for you, which it may be for a lot of smaller punters, and I'm more sorry if you can't see the value, all I do know is those that have tried the service are winning.

 My plan tomorrow is to wake up at 5am and start work. The less time I have to spend dealing with queries about why the tips are not there yet or I can't figure out how to click on the page the more time I'll have to study, write up the races and get my bets on and the happier I'll be. The answer to why don't you put them all up at the same time at 9am is simply "that is not how I work". I have spent some time today on the races but tomorrow I shall read everything I like to read online and in the Post, I shall narrow the horses I'm picking down and then I'll speak to a couple of pros I respect and discard the odd horse and figure out the staking plan.

 I think the results we have shown prove that this method works and it would be easier if people just buy into this method and let me get on with it. I didn't think it helped during Ascot to wade through abusive notes at the end of the 1st day which we lost on although I would say fair play to the one guy who tried to explain what I should be doing and how I could turn it round who then came back at the end of the week to congratulate us on the huge profit.

 I would basically say if you can't afford to lose then just don't do it, and if you can and we do lose then be assured that I'll have lost too, I wasn't trying to lose and we'll take it like men (or women) and move on.

 My plan is to bet on most of the races and in some I will definitely bet three horses, sometimes four. A lot of the bets I do will be each way and you can be assured that making a decision whether to bet win or each-way is something I've thought carefully about and I would recommend you to simply bet the ones I suggest as win bets to win and those I say each-way should be bet each-way. Sometimes it will look weird when I bet a 3/1 shot each-way and then in the next race a 50/1 shot to win but I can assure you I have made that decision for a good reason.

 My staking will be around 25 points a race but the stakes will vary enormously. In some races I may not bet at all or I could just find a 6 points win bet or even a 3 points win. In others I may have 10 or more points each-way on three or four horses. Obviously I will be making those decisions 100% based on how good value I consider the bet to be and I will pay no attention to how we are doing on the week at that stage. I am making all the decisions before the 1st race and so I won't be pressing just because we have had winners and I certainly won't chase. I would recommend you follow my policy.

 There are 7 races a day at Goodwood and if I bet an average of 25 points a race you will bet 875 points during the week. If you think you are a £1 a point punter on that basis then I would suggest that you should not buy. £99.99 is a lot to get back betting in those amounts and although I would expect to win around 18% long-term I think you are paying too much. If you choose to ignore me and go ahead good luck to you, I'm just warning you. I would suggest that £2 a point is a more reasonable MINIMUM that I would recommend people play for.

 Betting £2 a point does mean you will be laying out around £1750 and it could easily be more as I may go over the average. If you don't feel comfortable with that my main advice would be DO NOT GO AHEAD WITH THIS. We don't need your £99.99 that much and I'd rather not read about how I've lost someone more money than they thought possible or they could afford.

 Rest assured that if you bet horses with an average price of around 8/1 as I often do, and even bigger prices in the big festivals like Goodwood, you will have many losers, you will have painful losing days, some losing months and possible losing years. It can be possible that you have a long-term 5 year ROI of over 25% and you lose solidly for three months while doing exactly the same thing.

 I would generally say that each individual race should be no more than 3% of your total bankroll which means if you plan to play for £2 a point and bet in £50 a race then you'll need a tank of £1500. You can see though that by betting £1750 you could theoretically exceed that and go broke if we get ZERO returns which is unlikely but still possible. So many people have asked me questions about this stuff and there is no right answer. It simply depends on how risk averse you are.

 I'm going to leave it to the individual to decide.

 A couple of final points about getting on.

 It is hard. We always try with Betting Emporium to only tip with firms who are represented in the high street if the price is just with one firm or to tip when it's there with two. It doesn't seem fair to boast of a big-priced winner if you could only get on with Winner (who obviously won't lay any bets). When I tipped Lord Windermere for the Gold Cup you could get 40/ with Victor Chandler and Stan James and I tipped the horse at 33/1 which was available with some slightly less pathetic bookmakers. It's not fair if our results are based on fake prices so we make sure they are not. I will always tell you at what price you can still be happy and whether to switch to a lower price with worse place terms when that is relevant.

 It would be great if people with accounts that they know are heavily factored (you get 1% or 5% of the normal amounts that a new account would get) just don't bother using them. It simply alerts the bookmakers very cheaply and doesn't really help anyone. It would also be great if people don't immediately try and bet with Betfair at the price as this triggers the bookies robot software to cut prices.

 The fact that it is so hard to get bets on these days is the answer to the most frequently asked question which is why don't you do this every week?

 Finally, we have thought long and hard about our pricing. We would like to have a good number of customers as then if some people drop out after a bad week we don't have to worry too much. We also make a very small income from people opening accounts via the links on the site and it's good to have more people visiting.

 The flipside to this is that the more people who subscribe to the service the more the prices come under pressure and if we carry on being as successful as we have been we will find that nobody can get on as the first few bets alert the bookies and the prices go. We are all in this together really. If people keep the information to themselves and quietly do their bets we will all make more. If people chose to share the information then it will be a bigger fight for everyone to get the prices and some people may not get on. We would ask you not to share the information and to try to bet in a way that won't cause the prices to go instantly.

 In the future we may have to consider raising the pries so we have less customers and those that we have can get on. The flip side of that is the ones that don't care if we triple the price will bet bigger and it may have the same effect.

 It's never easy to know what to do.

 I shall have the 1st race up tomorrow by 9am at the latest and the others will follow at 30 minute intervals until noon.

 Good luck to all of us.

Quality post. Your honesty, integrity and work ethic really shine through in that post.

Wish you and Joe a profitable Goodwood.

And all us mugs who are following him in.  #TeamChanning.  

I have heard one of the boys is considering calling his newborn  girl or boy Channing when it arrives this week if we do a win.  


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 29, 2014, 02:25:47 PM
Meh, thought we were on for dream start.  Fanning says he thought the horse was 6lbs too high in the handicap.  Marv.  Unlucky Neil. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 29, 2014, 02:30:46 PM
Meh, thought we were on for dream start.  Fanning says he thought the horse was 6lbs too high in the handicap.  Marv.  Unlucky Neil. 

Traded 1.03 in running  :o


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 29, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
I posted this earlier on Skype talking to a few other who have bought the package, as trying to learn from it as well. I'd taken some of the comments on that Neil had made in the previous posts the day.   

[29/07/2014 13:25:58] MAC Lets see if I can read these the way Channing does, If I'm right with the thought process one of the bets in the 5:20 is going to be Inxilse.

Sure backed it.  Anyway, roll on day 2. 

The other one I had myself was  MUTAFARREJ in the same race as Dark Profit.  Was also watching that race without sound and thought we had the winner. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: toddswain on July 29, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
Let's go day2. Managed to get on everything today, working somewhere tomoz with bad mobile internet signal, praying I can get everything on


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2014, 06:36:46 PM
Tomorrow is going to be pretty hectic so I thought I'd try to head off some of the obvious questions so I can focus on picking winners.

 If you do decide to register for Betting Emporium for the 1st time do use the link that Tighty has provided as Joe and I have done an affiliate deal with Blonde and we'll be very happy to give a share of your fees to Blonde.

 The cost of the subscription is £99.99 a week which I personally think is too cheap for the work I am doing, so I'm sorry if it's too much for you, which it may be for a lot of smaller punters, and I'm more sorry if you can't see the value, all I do know is those that have tried the service are winning.

 My plan tomorrow is to wake up at 5am and start work. The less time I have to spend dealing with queries about why the tips are not there yet or I can't figure out how to click on the page the more time I'll have to study, write up the races and get my bets on and the happier I'll be. The answer to why don't you put them all up at the same time at 9am is simply "that is not how I work". I have spent some time today on the races but tomorrow I shall read everything I like to read online and in the Post, I shall narrow the horses I'm picking down and then I'll speak to a couple of pros I respect and discard the odd horse and figure out the staking plan.

 I think the results we have shown prove that this method works and it would be easier if people just buy into this method and let me get on with it. I didn't think it helped during Ascot to wade through abusive notes at the end of the 1st day which we lost on although I would say fair play to the one guy who tried to explain what I should be doing and how I could turn it round who then came back at the end of the week to congratulate us on the huge profit.

 I would basically say if you can't afford to lose then just don't do it, and if you can and we do lose then be assured that I'll have lost too, I wasn't trying to lose and we'll take it like men (or women) and move on.

 My plan is to bet on most of the races and in some I will definitely bet three horses, sometimes four. A lot of the bets I do will be each way and you can be assured that making a decision whether to bet win or each-way is something I've thought carefully about and I would recommend you to simply bet the ones I suggest as win bets to win and those I say each-way should be bet each-way. Sometimes it will look weird when I bet a 3/1 shot each-way and then in the next race a 50/1 shot to win but I can assure you I have made that decision for a good reason.

 My staking will be around 25 points a race but the stakes will vary enormously. In some races I may not bet at all or I could just find a 6 points win bet or even a 3 points win. In others I may have 10 or more points each-way on three or four horses. Obviously I will be making those decisions 100% based on how good value I consider the bet to be and I will pay no attention to how we are doing on the week at that stage. I am making all the decisions before the 1st race and so I won't be pressing just because we have had winners and I certainly won't chase. I would recommend you follow my policy.

 There are 7 races a day at Goodwood and if I bet an average of 25 points a race you will bet 875 points during the week. If you think you are a £1 a point punter on that basis then I would suggest that you should not buy. £99.99 is a lot to get back betting in those amounts and although I would expect to win around 18% long-term I think you are paying too much. If you choose to ignore me and go ahead good luck to you, I'm just warning you. I would suggest that £2 a point is a more reasonable MINIMUM that I would recommend people play for.

 Betting £2 a point does mean you will be laying out around £1750 and it could easily be more as I may go over the average. If you don't feel comfortable with that my main advice would be DO NOT GO AHEAD WITH THIS. We don't need your £99.99 that much and I'd rather not read about how I've lost someone more money than they thought possible or they could afford.

 Rest assured that if you bet horses with an average price of around 8/1 as I often do, and even bigger prices in the big festivals like Goodwood, you will have many losers, you will have painful losing days, some losing months and possible losing years. It can be possible that you have a long-term 5 year ROI of over 25% and you lose solidly for three months while doing exactly the same thing.

 I would generally say that each individual race should be no more than 3% of your total bankroll which means if you plan to play for £2 a point and bet in £50 a race then you'll need a tank of £1500. You can see though that by betting £1750 you could theoretically exceed that and go broke if we get ZERO returns which is unlikely but still possible. So many people have asked me questions about this stuff and there is no right answer. It simply depends on how risk averse you are.

 I'm going to leave it to the individual to decide.

 A couple of final points about getting on.

 It is hard. We always try with Betting Emporium to only tip with firms who are represented in the high street if the price is just with one firm or to tip when it's there with two. It doesn't seem fair to boast of a big-priced winner if you could only get on with Winner (who obviously won't lay any bets). When I tipped Lord Windermere for the Gold Cup you could get 40/ with Victor Chandler and Stan James and I tipped the horse at 33/1 which was available with some slightly less pathetic bookmakers. It's not fair if our results are based on fake prices so we make sure they are not. I will always tell you at what price you can still be happy and whether to switch to a lower price with worse place terms when that is relevant.

 It would be great if people with accounts that they know are heavily factored (you get 1% or 5% of the normal amounts that a new account would get) just don't bother using them. It simply alerts the bookmakers very cheaply and doesn't really help anyone. It would also be great if people don't immediately try and bet with Betfair at the price as this triggers the bookies robot software to cut prices.

 The fact that it is so hard to get bets on these days is the answer to the most frequently asked question which is why don't you do this every week?

 Finally, we have thought long and hard about our pricing. We would like to have a good number of customers as then if some people drop out after a bad week we don't have to worry too much. We also make a very small income from people opening accounts via the links on the site and it's good to have more people visiting.

 The flipside to this is that the more people who subscribe to the service the more the prices come under pressure and if we carry on being as successful as we have been we will find that nobody can get on as the first few bets alert the bookies and the prices go. We are all in this together really. If people keep the information to themselves and quietly do their bets we will all make more. If people chose to share the information then it will be a bigger fight for everyone to get the prices and some people may not get on. We would ask you not to share the information and to try to bet in a way that won't cause the prices to go instantly.

 In the future we may have to consider raising the pries so we have less customers and those that we have can get on. The flip side of that is the ones that don't care if we triple the price will bet bigger and it may have the same effect.

 It's never easy to know what to do.

 I shall have the 1st race up tomorrow by 9am at the latest and the others will follow at 30 minute intervals until noon.

 Good luck to all of us.

Quality post. Your honesty, integrity and work ethic really shine through in that post.

Wish you and Joe a profitable Goodwood.

+1

If you ever need to explain to mugs how a pro gambler works just copy and paste this.


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Post by: Bad Beat on July 29, 2014, 08:02:10 PM
 Sadly I wasn't such a pro with a guy who just came on to complain...Seriously though, we are suggesting betting almost 1000 points this week and after one day we are losing 65 points. One guy described the day as a debacle and one emailed "cheers I can pick 6 losers on my own". I am really keen not to do any business with people like that.

 He did have the opinion that he'd paid his £100 and he was entitled to be rude although he stated he didn't bother reading all that stuff at the beginning.


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Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2014, 08:21:54 PM
Sadly I wasn't such a pro with a guy who just came on to complain...Seriously though, we are suggesting betting almost 1000 points this week and after one day we are losing 65 points. One guy described the day as a debacle and one emailed "cheers I can pick 6 losers on my own". I am really keen not to do any business with people like that.

 He did have the opinion that he'd paid his £100 and he was entitled to be rude although he stated he didn't bother reading all that stuff at the beginning.

Send him to the back page small ads in the sun/mirror/star of alex gorrie and the other scum bag tipsters.  He will get plenty of winners every day if he holds the line for 20 mins to rack up a £30 phone bill but he will go skint month after month.


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Post by: BorntoBubble on July 29, 2014, 08:38:25 PM
Unfortunately it's the moaners who speak up and the other guys you've help. Make money/lose less for the same entertainment that are now sat on their piles of money with too many women around them to reply on blonde/email!


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Post by: Marky147 on July 29, 2014, 08:45:05 PM
Sadly I wasn't such a pro with a guy who just came on to complain...Seriously though, we are suggesting betting almost 1000 points this week and after one day we are losing 65 points. One guy described the day as a debacle and one emailed "cheers I can pick 6 losers on my own". I am really keen not to do any business with people like that.

 He did have the opinion that he'd paid his £100 and he was entitled to be rude although he stated he didn't bother reading all that stuff at the beginning.

Some people must have toasty lives, if knocking a few quid on on the first day of Goodwood is 'a debacle' :D



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Post by: Tal on July 29, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
Sadly I wasn't such a pro with a guy who just came on to complain...Seriously though, we are suggesting betting almost 1000 points this week and after one day we are losing 65 points. One guy described the day as a debacle and one emailed "cheers I can pick 6 losers on my own". I am really keen not to do any business with people like that.

 He did have the opinion that he'd paid his £100 and he was entitled to be rude although he stated he didn't bother reading all that stuff at the beginning.

Gotta love capitalism!

:D

The problem with ace king is it's only ace high, at the end of the day. Never wins. And jacks? Don't get me started! Three ways to play them. All wrong. Flop comes 248 and someone bets, you've got no idea where you are. Hopeless. I can never win in this casino. Especially when that dealer is on. I always put the six dog in my forecasts. It's only got one dog to bump into. What the bookies don't realise is man city have won their last six games at home, so they're a must-bet in the coupon. Gotta back Tony McCoy at Stratford. Loves it round there...

(I am available for alternative tipstering services at Gambling Cliché Emporium)

Best of luck for the rest of the week. The results will come.


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Post by: RickBFA on July 29, 2014, 09:18:08 PM
 Hi,

Quick question for Neil/Joe,

I didn't get chance to register for the Goodwood package.

Are you allowing people to register instead of at £99.99 for 5 days, for a reduced fee of say £80 for the remaining 4 days?

I think you may have done something similar before?

Thanks


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Post by: horseplayer on July 29, 2014, 09:42:28 PM
Sadly I wasn't such a pro with a guy who just came on to complain...Seriously though, we are suggesting betting almost 1000 points this week and after one day we are losing 65 points. One guy described the day as a debacle and one emailed "cheers I can pick 6 losers on my own". I am really keen not to do any business with people like that.

 He did have the opinion that he'd paid his £100 and he was entitled to be rude although he stated he didn't bother reading all that stuff at the beginning.

Some people must have toasty lives, if knocking a few quid on on the first day of Goodwood is 'a debacle' :D



In my limited experience you will get the same people moaning whether the service is free, £99.99 or £999.99.

Many years ago i helped a friend with a football tipping thing overseas (was free) and was showing a nice profit over a year or so. Still remember the abusive emails after a loser or even when it was a winner!

Must remember a proportion of your clients will be punting away at Beverley today, greyhounds, footie and whatever else. Regardless of whether they win with you they are probably still losing elsewhere.

The difference being when you charge at least you are getting something back monetary wise for the added hassle.

Out of interest how many members have signed up this week? Was quite surprised how quickly some of the prices were going especially early on

Thanks



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Post by: Kmac84 on July 29, 2014, 09:50:30 PM
Sadly I wasn't such a pro with a guy who just came on to complain...Seriously though, we are suggesting betting almost 1000 points this week and after one day we are losing 65 points. One guy described the day as a debacle and one emailed "cheers I can pick 6 losers on my own". I am really keen not to do any business with people like that.

 He did have the opinion that he'd paid his £100 and he was entitled to be rude although he stated he didn't bother reading all that stuff at the beginning.

Send him his money back and then we can laugh at the end of the week.  I know I had a moan about a World Cup bet but even not had the benefit of all your winners I feel as if I have learned something from the way you deconstruct a race.  I'd be happy to invest for an education like that alone. 

Imagine a BlackBelt version of this, it would be like a wet dream for punters.


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Post by: Bad Beat on July 29, 2014, 09:57:11 PM
 Hi Rick,

 At Cheltenham we let people pay £99.99 for the week or £30 a day. Quite a few paid £30 for each of the four days. At Liverpool we charged £75 for three days or you could just buy the Grand National day for £40 which lots of people did.

 We tried a "sampler" day for £20 at Royal Ascot and then if you decided after that Tuesday you wanted the rest of the week you still had to pay £99.99 so you paif £119.99 in total and those who leapt right in had a slight "discount".

 One thing occurred to us though.

 As with all winning gamblers a large sample size is better for us than a small one if we wish to demonstrate how good we are. If you want to bet me whether I'll win tomorrow I will take you on at evens, but if you want to bet me whether I'll win this year then I'll be much happier to take the bet. We found with the sampler that the Tuesday was our worse day of the week (sod's law) and even though we had a really good Ascot we lost a whole load of people who were thinking of trying us out for very little gain. Only two sampler clients paid for the rest of the week and I guess most of the others are lost to us as customers.

 To be honest with you I think it is probably better if we don't have any really small clients...don't get me wrong I think it is massively important that people gamble within their bankroll and I'm certain that all of our customers gamble higher stakes than the average guy in the bookies, plus I would never belittle anyone for betting "small". I have far more respect for the guy that grinds the £1/£2 every night than the bloke who blasts in the £5/£10 with his case money and is too skint to play now. I do think that the messages I have received tonight from people steaming and being pissed off because we lost 65 points today, when I've said again and again that we'll be betting 25 points a race and up to 1000 in the week, suggests to me that these people are betting way out of their comfort zone.

 Every time we discount or make the service more available for a smallish price and for a small amount of races we increase the amount of shit we have to deal with. I was up at 5am and I lost today and I'm dealing with people who are supposed to have lost 6% of what they were prepared to lose this week and the TV is showing people dying all around the world and I could do without them getting irate.

 On top of all of that there are admin and transaction costs which make selling the week in one go a better things for us.

 Having said all that we may do something from Wednesday, my time tonight has been wasted on other things instead of talking to Joe about that.


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Post by: Bad Beat on July 29, 2014, 09:58:05 PM
...you had to go and mention Black Belt...now I do need a drink.


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Post by: Kmac84 on July 29, 2014, 10:04:34 PM
...you had to go and mention Black Belt...now I do need a drink.

I liked the concept.  Have a stiff one, if we win over the week I'll send you a bottle. 


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Post by: Bad Beat on July 29, 2014, 10:14:35 PM
 Am definitely hoping we will, felt like we didn't do much wrong today. Think we were 5th and 6th in the last and we were 1.03 to win the 1st at the furlong pole. 65 points is a flesh would, any winner we back will win about 65 points so we are a winner down.


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Post by: RickBFA on July 29, 2014, 10:53:29 PM
Hi Rick,

 At Cheltenham we let people pay £99.99 for the week or £30 a day. Quite a few paid £30 for each of the four days. At Liverpool we charged £75 for three days or you could just buy the Grand National day for £40 which lots of people did.

 We tried a "sampler" day for £20 at Royal Ascot and then if you decided after that Tuesday you wanted the rest of the week you still had to pay £99.99 so you paif £119.99 in total and those who leapt right in had a slight "discount".

 One thing occurred to us though.

 As with all winning gamblers a large sample size is better for us than a small one if we wish to demonstrate how good we are. If you want to bet me whether I'll win tomorrow I will take you on at evens, but if you want to bet me whether I'll win this year then I'll be much happier to take the bet. We found with the sampler that the Tuesday was our worse day of the week (sod's law) and even though we had a really good Ascot we lost a whole load of people who were thinking of trying us out for very little gain. Only two sampler clients paid for the rest of the week and I guess most of the others are lost to us as customers.

 To be honest with you I think it is probably better if we don't have any really small clients...don't get me wrong I think it is massively important that people gamble within their bankroll and I'm certain that all of our customers gamble higher stakes than the average guy in the bookies, plus I would never belittle anyone for betting "small". I have far more respect for the guy that grinds the £1/£2 every night than the bloke who blasts in the £5/£10 with his case money and is too skint to play now. I do think that the messages I have received tonight from people steaming and being pissed off because we lost 65 points today, when I've said again and again that we'll be betting 25 points a race and up to 1000 in the week, suggests to me that these people are betting way out of their comfort zone.

 Every time we discount or make the service more available for a smallish price and for a small amount of races we increase the amount of shit we have to deal with. I was up at 5am and I lost today and I'm dealing with people who are supposed to have lost 6% of what they were prepared to lose this week and the TV is showing people dying all around the world and I could do without them getting irate.

 On top of all of that there are admin and transaction costs which make selling the week in one go a better things for us.

 Having said all that we may do something from Wednesday, my time tonight has been wasted on other things instead of talking to Joe about that.

No worries, thanks for the reply.

I'll probably subscribe anyway, just got sidetracked today.


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Post by: tikay on July 30, 2014, 04:08:52 PM

Oooh.

Thought Room Key was a little unlucky in running there, got knocked about a bit at the crucial stage, though I'm not suggesting it would or should have won.

Even so, a 40/1 place is not so bad.


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Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 04:13:08 PM
It helps. 

Should hopefully be a winning day now and eat into yesterday. 

Cheers Neil.

I left Pallister and backed Tupi myself.  The only reason I done that was the form with Winstanley was somewhat let down and your comment about Hannon Jnrs horses yesterday so cheers for that.


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Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 05:17:00 PM
<3 Channing. 


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Post by: toddswain on July 30, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Following Neil's bets but had 4points each way on magique based on his write up


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Post by: Nico29 on July 30, 2014, 05:33:29 PM
Following Neil's bets but had 4points each way on magique based on his write up


+1, tho don't think he'd have said to go ew on that race*

15 runners first 3 places.

*I def get the problem when it's 33's, you want to do it to place just in case, trying to learn myself that in such cases win only is the best value play.

:)



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Post by: toddswain on July 30, 2014, 05:37:32 PM
Ha I'm kinda clueless on when to and when not to bet each way, hence paying for someone else's opinion, but punters gonna punt


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Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 05:44:02 PM
Following Neil's bets but had 4points each way on magique based on his write up


+1, tho don't think he'd have said to go ew on that race*

15 runners first 3 places.

*I def get the problem when it's 33's, you want to do it to place just in case, trying to learn myself that in such cases win only is the best value play.

:)



I backed the win smaller than the place part due to the price.  I feel churny inside backing 40/1 shots as decent win bets on a horse.

But all good in the end. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on July 31, 2014, 08:39:38 AM

In the "we learn something every day" Dept, as a recreational fun punter, I doubt I'd ever have noticed this trait if it had not been in Lord G's write up yesterday. 

I'm sure BE won't mind me copying this, as it is well after the embargo time.


Self-certification is something that punters hate. If trainers had to take their sick horses to the races to show them to a BHA vet, prove they were ill and then drive them home that would be silly, so trainers are allowed to get their own vet to write a certificate if they want to pull their horse out. That means their friendly guy who they give their business to all the time will write whatever they want.

In races like this 5.25 you get to decide that you don't fancy being drawn high and you can either argue that the going is unsuitable or get your vet to say your horse didn't fancy his breakfast. That means we have lost the ones drawn 13,14,16 and 18 in this race where low numbers have an advantage


In other shock news, he probably also said that Seamus is a clown.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 31, 2014, 10:35:28 AM

In the "we learn something every day" Dept, as a recreational fun punter, I doubt I'd ever have noticed this trait if it had not been in Lord G's write up yesterday. 

I'm sure BE won't mind me copying this, as it is well after the embargo time.


Self-certification is something that punters hate. If trainers had to take their sick horses to the races to show them to a BHA vet, prove they were ill and then drive them home that would be silly, so trainers are allowed to get their own vet to write a certificate if they want to pull their horse out. That means their friendly guy who they give their business to all the time will write whatever they want.

In races like this 5.25 you get to decide that you don't fancy being drawn high and you can either argue that the going is unsuitable or get your vet to say your horse didn't fancy his breakfast. That means we have lost the ones drawn 13,14,16 and 18 in this race where low numbers have an advantage


In other shock news, he probably also said that Seamus is a clown.

I should put this in the moaning thread but there should be a change in the rules imo so that you get the terms ou place the bet at.  The books have time to restructure the markets.   I mean we don't get the opportunity to void our bet if the terms change which no doubt given what Neil said yesterday about this particular race many would have wanted to do. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on July 31, 2014, 10:50:49 AM

In the "we learn something every day" Dept, as a recreational fun punter, I doubt I'd ever have noticed this trait if it had not been in Lord G's write up yesterday. 

I'm sure BE won't mind me copying this, as it is well after the embargo time.


Self-certification is something that punters hate. If trainers had to take their sick horses to the races to show them to a BHA vet, prove they were ill and then drive them home that would be silly, so trainers are allowed to get their own vet to write a certificate if they want to pull their horse out. That means their friendly guy who they give their business to all the time will write whatever they want.

In races like this 5.25 you get to decide that you don't fancy being drawn high and you can either argue that the going is unsuitable or get your vet to say your horse didn't fancy his breakfast. That means we have lost the ones drawn 13,14,16 and 18 in this race where low numbers have an advantage


In other shock news, he probably also said that Seamus is a clown.

I was aware they did this but am not sure why they do it.  It is a handicap, so running down the field isn't going to do them any harm in the long run?  Or do they prefer to choose when their horse has a bad race and Goodwood wasn't in the plan?  Presumably if they didn't come to Goodwood, they were going to have a gallop somewhere?

I guess some must come a long way and it saves on travel costs, but assume entry fees are lost regardless?

Anyone any idea?



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Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2014, 10:56:21 AM
I have always been of the impression the big 4 bookmakers pay certain trainers to take horses out of these races wherever possible.


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Post by: doubleup on July 31, 2014, 11:15:20 AM

Sorry to disagree with the herd, but there isn't really a huge draw bias

The pic below is 7f handicaps more than 13 runners.

I think the high numbers get a bit back by being able to be settled and getting a clear run.



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Post by: JoeBeevers on July 31, 2014, 12:21:40 PM
English Football - Pre-season Analysis

Stuart is doing a package on the top four divisions for us. There will be several write ups and we have just published the first. Cost for total package is £49.99

English Non League Football - FREE - Pre-season Analysis write up coming soon

We will also be publishing a write up on non league pre-season by a great judge. Just having his caricature done and then we'll introduce him.


We are also planning weekly (free) write ups on Premier League & Championship and Non League games once the season starts.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on July 31, 2014, 12:47:28 PM
Are any firms pricing up whether all the tips come out before noon as suggested ?

Ill take the no please :)

Tongue firmly in cheek with this post btw, very much enjoying reading the information and certainly been unlucky so far this week


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: toddswain on July 31, 2014, 01:52:22 PM
Good luck us today. Prices shot down a lot quicker today than past two, was noticeably harder to get on today with a few races. Anyway let's go


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Post by: Doobs on July 31, 2014, 02:17:22 PM
Good luck us today. Prices shot down a lot quicker today than past two, was noticeably harder to get on today with a few races. Anyway let's go

True, I assume the tips are leaking out or somebody is betting chunks. 


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Post by: BorntoBubble on July 31, 2014, 03:14:15 PM
how many packages have been bought? Ive no idea if its 50 or 500 tbh


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Post by: StuartHopkin on July 31, 2014, 03:37:48 PM
By a bloody gnats knacker  :'(


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Post by: simonnatur on July 31, 2014, 03:38:13 PM
omg that sucked


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Post by: BorntoBubble on July 31, 2014, 03:38:57 PM
omg that sucked

:(


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Post by: simonnatur on July 31, 2014, 03:40:40 PM
How did he even get back in contention - let alone nearly get up?


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Post by: BorntoBubble on July 31, 2014, 03:44:07 PM
Not really sure keep getting 2nd and 3rd in these races. (my own stuff and neil's) No winners not sure how ive not gone broke!



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on July 31, 2014, 03:44:26 PM
agreed re prices

Found it quite hard to get the prices today, first two days little issues.

Have more members come onboard today? Or maybe its just people upping stakes


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Post by: Kmac84 on July 31, 2014, 03:48:30 PM
This doesn't even feel real. I am in front through a combination of backing Neil's stuff and a few of my own.  Its obviously difficult to say but I feel as if I have learnt loads from reading not only these write up's but from the previous free stuff. 

But so, so unlucky there.   Keep them coming Neil. 


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Post by: BorntoBubble on July 31, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
agreed re prices

Found it quite hard to get the prices today, first two days little issues.

Have more members come onboard today? Or maybe its just people upping stakes

Say 100 customers and an average of £10 a point is £10,000 enough to move these markets, surely the money si spread across multiple bookies/betfair?

Or have i heavily underestimated the amount being punted


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 31, 2014, 04:16:05 PM
agreed re prices

Found it quite hard to get the prices today, first two days little issues.

Have more members come onboard today? Or maybe its just people upping stakes

Say 100 customers and an average of £10 a point is £10,000 enough to move these markets, surely the money si spread across multiple bookies/betfair?

Or have i heavily underestimated the amount being punted

But it only takes a couple of ton from a flagged account to spark panic for the books and if one moves the rest generally feel compelled. 


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Post by: George2Loose on July 31, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
Couldn't a shrewd bookie get an employee to sign up and adjust prices accordingly?


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Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2014, 04:19:58 PM
Couldn't a shrewd bookie get an employee to sign up and adjust prices accordingly?

Bookies will be signed up to this very soon, if not already, i would have thought.  When i was at 365 years ago pretty sure they signed up to every major tipping line so they could adjust limits on selections etc before the followers could get on.  That's why this tipping service is focused only on major events where the market can absorb the info better than general day to day stuff where the markets are much weaker.


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Post by: Bad Beat on July 31, 2014, 08:09:49 PM
 I don't think we want to say exactly how many people signed up but I can say it's more than 100 but not 500. It was a worry that we had about Goodwood when compared with Ascot and Cheltenham that the prices would not be around enough with the weaker markets. Today I think the problem was a little that the bigger prices happened to be with the more pathetic firms. Also when we bet in 16-runner handicaps there is so much value in the place part of the bet that you can usually bet something that you were hoping to get 10/1 about at 8/1 and you still will have a +ev bet. If you bet on the 12 runner handicaps there is not so much overlay on the place and you have to get 10/1 in that example.

 I have no idea what the average guy bets on our selections but I know that some of the punters are pretty big poker players and I have heard them talk about the large amounts they have on. If one or two of them only tuned in today for the 1st time...I also think this week some of the people who maybe played £5 a point at Ascot decided this was easy money and they would play for £10 a point.

 Hopefully tomorrow things will be easier. I am betting all selections myself but my money is spread around really carefully and while it can have an effect it doesn't cause the big price crashes that happened today.

 Most bookmakers today would not be interested in subscribing, they just want to cut everyone and seem to have no interest in the bit of the job that I used to find fascinating which was to find out who the winning guy were, see what they were doing, use that to help you set better prices and follow them in with the opposition.

 Did find this article interesting though...


http://www.sbcnews.co.uk/%3Fp%3D11123
 


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Post by: arbboy on July 31, 2014, 08:44:18 PM
would love to see how firms would manage all the degens in their offices not betting each and every day. 


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Post by: doubleup on July 31, 2014, 10:56:15 PM
would love to see how firms would manage all the degens in their offices not betting each and every day. 

The striking thing I take from the GC memo is that they expect firms to have ridiculously high standards in some areas but completely ignore freerolling through palps and void bets, manipulation of sps and other issues that directly affect punters.


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Post by: redarmi on August 01, 2014, 01:00:08 AM
I don't think we want to say exactly how many people signed up but I can say it's more than 100 but not 500. It was a worry that we had about Goodwood when compared with Ascot and Cheltenham that the prices would not be around enough with the weaker markets. Today I think the problem was a little that the bigger prices happened to be with the more pathetic firms. Also when we bet in 16-runner handicaps there is so much value in the place part of the bet that you can usually bet something that you were hoping to get 10/1 about at 8/1 and you still will have a +ev bet. If you bet on the 12 runner handicaps there is not so much overlay on the place and you have to get 10/1 in that example.

 I have no idea what the average guy bets on our selections but I know that some of the punters are pretty big poker players and I have heard them talk about the large amounts they have on. If one or two of them only tuned in today for the 1st time...I also think this week some of the people who maybe played £5 a point at Ascot decided this was easy money and they would play for £10 a point.

 Hopefully tomorrow things will be easier. I am betting all selections myself but my money is spread around really carefully and while it can have an effect it doesn't cause the big price crashes that happened today.

 Most bookmakers today would not be interested in subscribing, they just want to cut everyone and seem to have no interest in the bit of the job that I used to find fascinating which was to find out who the winning guy were, see what they were doing, use that to help you set better prices and follow them in with the opposition.

 Did find this article interesting though...


http://www.sbcnews.co.uk/%3Fp%3D11123
 

That link is pretty funny.  The firms will never implement that because the few good traders that are still in the industry are only in it for the info....it certainly isn't the pay!!!!


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Post by: StuartHopkin on August 01, 2014, 02:55:36 PM
 ;izimbra;


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Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2014, 06:35:19 PM
Sure you have seen this but anyway

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bt9-NsCCUAAoWSv.jpg)


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Post by: TightEnd on August 02, 2014, 09:18:57 AM
This week's "Road to Riches"

free to view, you don't need to be a registered user

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44


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Post by: Doobs on August 02, 2014, 09:47:41 AM
This week's "Road to Riches"

free to view, you don't need to be a registered user

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44

Good to have kids and be up early on a Saturday.  Even getting the 40/1 shots and the prices only available with one bookie this morning.  Mini Boom


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Post by: Kmac84 on August 02, 2014, 10:41:16 AM
This week's "Road to Riches"

free to view, you don't need to be a registered user

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44

Good to have kids and be up early on a Saturday.  Even getting the 40/1 shots and the prices only available with one bookie this morning.  Mini Boom

I was hitting refresh after seeing Tighty's post last night.  Obvs no market on betfair and my neworth is basically on there until Goodwood is over.


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Post by: toddswain on August 02, 2014, 11:34:48 AM
Think the 40/1 horse is a non runner now


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Post by: DMorgan on August 02, 2014, 11:41:06 AM
Do we get lumped on the SP favourite in that case?


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Post by: Doobs on August 02, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Do we get lumped on the SP favourite in that case?

No, money back


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Post by: DMorgan on August 02, 2014, 12:15:38 PM
Cheers, does it depend on how close it is to the off? Seem to remember from the scoop 6 coup that we got moved to the SP favourite, is that just a scoop 6 thing?

Apologies for the breif derail


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Post by: arbboy on August 02, 2014, 12:19:10 PM
Cheers, does it depend on how close it is to the off? Seem to remember from the scoop 6 coup that we got moved to the SP favourite, is that just a scoop 6 thing?

Apologies for the breif derail

Just a scoop 6 thing dan. 


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Post by: Tal on August 02, 2014, 12:33:28 PM
Cheers, does it depend on how close it is to the off? Seem to remember from the scoop 6 coup that we got moved to the SP favourite, is that just a scoop 6 thing?

Apologies for the breif derail

If the horse were under starters when it was withdrawn, you'd lose your bet. Right up to then (including refusing to go into the stalls), it's a money back job.

The scoop6 stuff is essentially an accumulator and non-runners in those tend to count as byes (so if you have three horses and the horse in race one doesn't run, you're still live with your acca, but you don't make or lose anything on the bet; 4/1, 5/1 and 2/1 treble then becomes to all intents and purposes a 5/1 and 2/1 double). But, because the scoop6 is a showpiece event for the bookies to sell to Joe Punter and because they don't want lots of winners by people backing horses not likely to run if it rains, they have a rule where it goes on the favourite instead.

That's my understanding, anyway.


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Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 12:42:40 PM
Does everyone else still have 3.15 as latest write up?

Was 9.40am just worried my page isnt refreshing or something

cheers


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Post by: RickBFA on August 02, 2014, 12:45:11 PM
Does everyone else still have 3.15 as latest write up?

Was 9.40am just worried my page isnt refreshing or something

cheers

Same here Horsey.


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Post by: toddswain on August 02, 2014, 12:45:30 PM
Same for me


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
cheers gents


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: RickBFA on August 02, 2014, 12:46:17 PM
3.50 just appeared


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Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 12:49:38 PM
says it was posted at 9.42?

bit weird but up now anyway


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Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 12:56:44 PM
All coming at once now


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Post by: Tal on August 02, 2014, 01:12:24 PM
VBOL today, chaps. Would be a lovely day for the rub of the green.

Am looking forward to finding out how much I could have won :)


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Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 01:17:51 PM
The first now has added bets at the bottom after the non runner


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Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 01:36:35 PM
5.00 clock now up


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Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 01:56:55 PM
and last up


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Post by: Bad Beat on August 02, 2014, 03:02:05 PM
 All a bit of a rush today. Had to keep changing my write-ups with the non-runners and lots of stuff to deal with. 6th, 7th 8th and 10th in that race and the 6th was really unlucky.

 Feel a bit sick.


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Post by: tikay on August 02, 2014, 03:07:13 PM

There you go.

Bet that felt good?

Nice one.


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Post by: toddswain on August 02, 2014, 03:08:18 PM
Winner


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Post by: toddswain on August 02, 2014, 03:16:49 PM
I'm sure there's a reason I didn't get paid out at 15/1... Non runners ?


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Post by: Bad Beat on August 02, 2014, 03:18:06 PM
 A few non-runners. What was the rule 4 by the way?


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Post by: Marky147 on August 02, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
I'm sure there's a reason I didn't get paid out at 15/1... Non runners ?

Yeah, there will have been a rule 4 for Rainbow Rock, and Satellite.

Well done gents.


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Post by: Doobs on August 02, 2014, 03:27:55 PM
A few non-runners. What was the rule 4 by the way?

10% at Victor


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Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 03:29:36 PM
15% at Hills


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Post by: superwomble on August 02, 2014, 05:36:38 PM
Wow I'm a jinx. Brodders is well in profit. He puts up a 20 point over 3 goals game in Sweden. I pile in.

0-0.

Standard.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on August 04, 2014, 07:27:39 PM
We have got a great non-league expert writing for us, Alan Alger - on Twitter @Alan_Alger_

We have just published a pre-season write by Alan with a few bets on the Conferences divisions.

It is free to read for all registered users.


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Post by: TightEnd on August 04, 2014, 07:28:14 PM
Oh! the conference sponsor man?



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Post by: Omm on August 04, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
We have got a great non-league expert writing for us, Alan Alger - on Twitter @Alan_Alger_

We have just published a pre-season write by Alan with a few bets on the Conferences divisions.

It is free to read for all registered users.

Some great content and write up's from Alan, fantastic season long bets as well, also helps reinforce some of the selections that I had already made so really pleased with that. Thanks Joe great bit of work for BE.


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Post by: Omm on August 04, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
English Football - Pre-season Analysis

Stuart is doing a package on the top four divisions for us. There will be several write ups and we have just published the first. Cost for total package is £49.99

English Non League Football - FREE - Pre-season Analysis write up coming soon

We will also be publishing a write up on non league pre-season by a great judge. Just having his caricature done and then we'll introduce him.


We are also planning weekly (free) write ups on Premier League & Championship and Non League games once the season starts.



Joe, I'm looking to sign up for Redarmi's package, before I do is there any idea of how many bets are going to be recommended?


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Post by: JoeBeevers on August 04, 2014, 09:11:17 PM
We have got a great non-league expert writing for us, Alan Alger - on Twitter @Alan_Alger_

We have just published a pre-season write by Alan with a few bets on the Conferences divisions.

It is free to read for all registered users.

Some great content and write up's from Alan, fantastic season long bets as well, also helps reinforce some of the selections that I had already made so really pleased with that. Thanks Joe great bit of work for BE.

Thanks Omm, I think he is a great addition to the site. There are plans for him to start covering the games each week too once the season starts.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on August 04, 2014, 09:13:29 PM
English Football - Pre-season Analysis

Stuart is doing a package on the top four divisions for us. There will be several write ups and we have just published the first. Cost for total package is £49.99

English Non League Football - FREE - Pre-season Analysis write up coming soon

We will also be publishing a write up on non league pre-season by a great judge. Just having his caricature done and then we'll introduce him.


We are also planning weekly (free) write ups on Premier League & Championship and Non League games once the season starts.



Joe, I'm looking to sign up for Redarmi's package, before I do is there any idea of how many bets are going to be recommended?

The Premier write up has two recommends and the Championship write up four. Red is still working on the others but I'll try and get him to give you an idea.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on August 05, 2014, 08:58:50 AM
For Red's Pres-season analysis there will probably be five full write ups with approx 15 - 18 bets recommended all together.


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Post by: Omm on August 05, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
For Red's Pres-season analysis there will probably be five full write ups with approx 15 - 18 bets recommended all together.

Thanks Joe, sounds like there is more than enough bets to cover the cost.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on August 07, 2014, 09:04:54 AM
We have just added a free write up by Redarmi on this week's NFL pre season games.

We will be offering quite a bit of free NFL stuff this year including some ante post and pre season write ups by Tighty and all Thursday night games will be written up by Neil and available to all registered users for free as well. We have also put our NFL package details up on the home page.

Having Redarmi do the pre season analysis and write ups every week is a great opportunity. It is a difficult market for betting for obvious reasons, and Red explains some of those reasons in his write up, but it makes for some great betting angles to exploit.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on August 08, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
English football season starts this weekend. We are now doing match write ups and analysis each week on the Premier League, The Championship and the top three Non League divisions.

This weekend's write ups and analysis have now been published. They are all free to registered users.


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Post by: TightEnd on August 08, 2014, 07:54:13 PM
This week's Road to Riches live on bettingemporium

Free football league tip, free bet advice

Summary of everything new on Betting Emporium this week...

http://bit.ly/1ox8IhP


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Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 08:07:07 PM
Exeter also have a massive stomach bug going through the camp prompting Tisdale to register himself for tommorow


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on August 14, 2014, 12:02:29 PM
Tighty has just published his 2nd NFL ante post special looking at player and team specials on the site. I have to say it's a work of art - I loved it. It's free to all registered users.


Premier League starts this weekend and we are running a free to enter comp with a $500 winner takes all prize:
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=64158.0


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Post by: MahoganyVic on August 15, 2014, 04:07:27 PM
Hi, i have subscribed to redarmi's ante-post bets. Was just wondering if anyone could tell me where to find the head to head markets on betfred (team X to finish above team Y). Have given up trying to find them myself!


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Post by: hector62 on August 15, 2014, 07:30:10 PM
Hi, i have subscribed to redarmi's ante-post bets. Was just wondering if anyone could tell me where to find the head to head markets on betfred (team X to finish above team Y). Have given up trying to find them myself!

I think you want  Football/Outrights/ Premier season match bets.


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Post by: TightEnd on August 15, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
This week's "The Road to Riches" is at

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44

including....

- Premier League tip from redarmi

- how to use free bets, and guarantee a return

- Ladbrokes offer to betting emporium customers

round up of all the football sections on the site for Premier League, championship, non league: ante post and weekly matches


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Post by: exstream on August 15, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
This week's "The Road to Riches" is at

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44

including....

- Premier League tip from redarmi

- how to use free bets, and guarantee a return

- Ladbrokes offer to betting emporium customers

round up of all the football sections on the site for Premier League, championship, non league: ante post and weekly matches

Isn't that ladbrokes offer to anyone that signs up from anywhere? Type in google ladbrokes sign up offer and that comes up.


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Post by: TightEnd on August 15, 2014, 09:52:11 PM
yes, but use the Betting Emporium link!


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Post by: horseplayer on August 15, 2014, 11:00:15 PM
Not unusual but reads like it is a special deal for BE customers when as Ex says it is just the usual offer?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MahoganyVic on August 16, 2014, 10:06:03 AM
Thanks Hector!

Hi, i have subscribed to redarmi's ante-post bets. Was just wondering if anyone could tell me where to find the head to head markets on betfred (team X to finish above team Y). Have given up trying to find them myself!

I think you want  Football/Outrights/ Premier season match bets.


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Post by: redarmi on August 16, 2014, 12:51:50 PM
Yes that was it.  I find Freds site impossible but if you ever struggle you with any of the firms you can normally click through from oddschecker.


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Post by: Bad Beat on August 20, 2014, 12:04:27 AM
 Lots of people ask the same questions whenever we cover a big race meeting and some seem to make a few mistakes in terms of understanding variance and staking. I decided to write something so that people would know what to expect:

 Thinking of subscribing? What to expect...

Posted on 19 Aug 2014 13:25 in The Week Ahead at York Races

  We have done a few of these big horse racing festivals now and people often ask a lot of the same questions about how the week will go. Sometimes people sign-up and it's clear after they have followed for just a day or so that they should have asked some questions before they got involved.

 Let me first say that the York Ebor meeting is four days with six races each day and so we are talking about a smallish sample of twenty-four races. We have done seven of these "Festival" race meetings since we started Betting Emporium and we've won on four and lost on three. We have also lost much less on the losing weeks than we won on the winning ones. We have an ROI on racing of 29% which I think is quite impressive and perhaps slightly over what I would expect us to have. I can tell you that generally my ROI on racing is lower than this, (nearer to 18%), over the years, although I've never really broken it down into bigger and smaller meetings and I would definitely say that these bigger races offer us the best bets.

 Secondly I can say with some certainty that I'll be suggesting bets on most of the races and that I'll average twenty-five points in bets per race although those numbers will vary enormously, some races being just five points while in the others I suggest bets of forty or more points. Again that makes for more short-term variance as five or six of the races will make the difference between a winning or losing week. What we know for sure is that I'll bet around six hundred points during the week.

 I will be up each day at 5am and I'll get the first race written up and on the site for about 9.30am. There isn't much point me doing it any earlier as it's really impossible to get big bets on before that. The plan will then be to send each race at thirty minute intervals so that you have them all by noon. What will probably happen is that I get distracted by non-runners and the weather affecting the going and the last race is not with you until 1pm. I will try hard to get them earlier this week, but I would rather ensure the delivery of a quality product than focus on getting them all by noon. I realise there is a time-commitment to following these bets but hopefully the tweets and email nudges help you to get the bets the second they go up.

 If you feel like you are a £50 a race kind of punter then you should be betting £2 a point. That means that during the week your total stakes will come to around £1200 and if that is the case and we manage an ROI of 18% then you'll win £216. It may be that we win much more than that, it may be that we break even and it may be that we lose but I reckon winning £200 is about average for what should happen to you during the week at these stakes. I would also say that if that is your plan then maybe this is not for you. Paying us half of your potential winnings seems quite high. I'm afraid we have no plans to drop our prices, there is a lot of work from both Joe and I during these weeks and we'd like to be paid for that work, and to an extent we would like to limit the number of customers so everyone can get their bets on. I would generally say that £3 a point ought to be your minimum if you are going to join us this week. It is, of course up to you, and on all of our winning weeks you'd have comfortably won enough to make it feel the £99.99 was a bargain, even betting £1 a point.

 During the other meetings we covered people would often email or mention on twitter such things as "big day tomorrow", I'm doubling up" or "just need one more winner to get out of it".

 You should be aware that I shall certainly not be thinking that way at any stage and if you are thinking like that I suggest you stop. We are not selling a get rich quick scheme here, but it is a scheme that can help you to get rich. What you will need to do for that to work is to realise that you have paid to follow a professional at work and it's important that you take the responsibility to act professionally. If I said a horse was a twelve point bet that's because I thought that it was a twelve point bet. It doesn't become a 25 point bet because we won the last one, we lost the last three or we "need it" at the end of the day.

  One question people often ask is how much they need to have as a bankroll in order to bet £5 a point, £10 a point or whatever. It's like one of those poker questions...the answer is always: it depends.

 If you are someone who keeps a seperate gambling bankroll and this is easily replenished if things go wrong then you may be less worried about going broke. If you consider your bankroll to be every penny you have then losing everything means no money for food and bills then you should be much more careful. People will often say bet 3% of your bankroll on each event, sometimes people will say 5%. I will simply say that a lot of the time over the Ebor metting we will stake 600 points and we will win or lose 100 points. Those numbers are pretty normal and so you should certainly look to bet an amount where losing 100 or 200 points will not cause you to want to write hatemail to myself or Joe and where a totally disastrous week of losing 600 points which is highly unlikely, but still possible, is not going to ruin you.

 If you feel you are simply not comfortable with these sort of numbers then we urge you to not buy. Stick to the masses of free information on the site and play at a level with which you are comfortable. If you had bet every single selection on the site so far then you'd have achieved a very healthy ROI of over 9% and after a while of winning with us maybe you can consider upping your stakes and following us with one of the horse meetings in the future. Joe and I are certainly not desperate for your hundred quid and we really don't want to encourage people to bet with money they can't afford or at stakes they are not comfortable with.

 During Cheltenham and Royal Ascot we lost on day one and at Goodwood we lost over the whole meeting. We received quite a lot of emails from people complaining about the service after those days. Some people seemed to think that they would just sign up and win every single race with no blips at all. I think it's good that we state here straight away that this will almost certainly not happen. I'd imagine I'll bet about 45 horses this week and I hope I'll have a few winners. At Goodwood I seemed to bet quite a lot of horses that were unlucky in running and quite a few that came 2nd, at Cheltenham I think I was running pretty well and there weren't too many painful 2nds. It is gambling, there will be variance and whether we win or lose I am telling you I will be working for twelve hours a day on the bets and by subscribing you'll get to follow exactly all the bets I make at the meeting. It is that hard work that you are paying for and unless you were thinking of writing to offer us an extra couple of hundred if we had a winning week then please don't bother asking for your money back if we lose. If it doesn't work out it won't be because we have had a lot of -ev bets, it will just be down to variance. I can assure you it is possible to bet one horse a day at 8/1 and watch it go off 4/1 every day for three months and still be losing over that time. If you feel like you are one of those people who simply cannot cope with this kind of variance and especially if you feel that you are one of those people who will need to lash out and who feels that you've paid for the right to abuse me if we lose then please stop reading and never come back to our site again. We don't want your money and everybody's life will be better if we never have to deal with you.

 During some of the other meetings a few people have written to make "helpful" suggestions...why don't you have less bets? Why don't you bet each-way on anything over 14/1? Why don't you have a few races with no bets? Why don't you back a few of the favourites that are just "obviously" going to win?

 To those people I shall simply say...we have an ROI of 29% on horse racing. Why would you want anything to change? If you are going to suggest anything it is that we should make more bets not less, as we have proved over a decent sample that the bets we place are +ev. I can understand that some people are just not used to betting a high volume of bets in one day, with sometimes four or five horses in one race. I totally understand that the races where I bet two horses at 20/1 and 33/1 to win will quite often lead to another 30 minutes of anticipation and another loss and that can be hard to take. All I will say is something I've said before...It's not how many, it's how much. You have chosen to pay a professional to share his methods with you. I think you've made a good choice. What you then need to do to make it worthwhile paying for that service is to let me share MY methods. They may seem unusual to you but they do work for me and by simply following the easy steps you ought to win. Why you would want me to change my methods is a mystery to me.

 Finally a word about getting on. After a very successful few meetings earlier in the year lots of people wrote and suggested we offer our service for Goodwood and York. I was a little worried that the markets at these meetings would not be strong enough for all of us to get on. We have a three figure number of followers and some of our subscribers bet for £50 and £100 a point. I don't want to be the kind of tipping service which boasts about profits at prices that just weren't available so I make it a rule to only tip with the bigger firms, at prices that are freely available even if that means we record the bet at 12/1 in our results when a couple of smaller bookies had 14/1.

 It would make things much easier for everyone if people helped us all collectively. By passing the selections to friends who haven't subscribed you are helping to double the number of people seeing these bets and therefore making it harder for all of us to get on. If this continues we'll have to consider either covering only the really big meetings or just putting the prices right up. We can't sell a service that suggests bets that the paying customers cannot get on. On a similar subject there was one customer, (I'm assuming it was just one), who would attempt to bet large amounts on Betfair at considerably lower than the prices available with the high street bookmakers within seconds of me releasing the bets. I appreciate it is hard to maintain betting accounts these days and you may not always get the full pick of the prices but by sticking up £800 at 11.5 when we have suggested 12/1 with Hills, Ladbrokes and Bet365 then you simply cause the price to crash very quickly. Maybe that person could spend their time today getting some friends to open them a few new accounts ready for battle tomorrow.

 If anyone has any other questions then feel free to email either Joe of myself.

 Here's hoping we run well, but I'd settle for running normal.

 

nc


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Post by: StuartHopkin on August 20, 2014, 12:02:38 PM
In

Let the debacle commence  ;)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on August 20, 2014, 12:28:28 PM
Out unfortunately, but good luck all. 

Just bought a house so expenditure is to a minimum for next few months, I'll be having a few ice cream lucky 15's. 

This probably means you guys will get back to pinging 25/1 winners :-)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 02:23:44 PM


Oh my oh my........

Very well done Mr C.

That might just be my last bet of the York Fessie, I'm a hit & run merchant.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on August 20, 2014, 02:30:39 PM


Oh my oh my........

Very well done Mr C.

That might just be my last bet of the York Fessie, I'm a hit & run merchant.


Standard.   


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 20, 2014, 02:37:10 PM
In

Let the debacle commence  ;)

The debacle has started!

Well done Neil!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on August 20, 2014, 02:53:08 PM
Sounds like you're already better than west ham.

(Been far too long since I could slip that in)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on August 20, 2014, 02:55:59 PM
Well done gents!

At least you know that you won't have too many trolls to deal with tonight ;D


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on August 20, 2014, 02:57:28 PM
2 out of 2

onwards!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 02:58:10 PM
oi oi!

lovely stuff


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 02:58:23 PM


For goodness sake Neil, do behave!

Incred.

I'm deffo doing my hit & run now. No more bets, no more bets.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 20, 2014, 03:35:48 PM
Epic debaclaments!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 03:35:59 PM


Now stop it, stop it right now. This is ridic redic



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Post by: Nico29 on August 20, 2014, 03:36:05 PM
He's gna go through the card...


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 03:36:45 PM
i had a mug acca in the bet basket.... (didnt bother)

sweating both ways now so to speak!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on August 20, 2014, 03:48:12 PM
Doesn't even feel real.  But pleased for Neil and the team because they took some shit last time out. 



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MahoganyVic on August 20, 2014, 03:56:58 PM
Bad day to sleep through alarm!


I'm, assuming 3/3 so far? Anyone on for a big acca?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 04:09:10 PM


Useless.

I demand a refund.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 04:10:03 PM
Bad day to sleep through alarm!


I'm, assuming 3/3 so far? Anyone on for a big acca?


It was, yeah, 2 of them at double figure prices, too.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 20, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
Sigh decided against it this week as im super busy in work and going away at the weekend so thought id be too late on most of the bets!

Good work Neil. Hopefully no hate mail this week hope you get the lot!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on August 20, 2014, 04:57:53 PM
Sigh decided against it this week as im super busy in work and going away at the weekend so thought id be too late on most of the bets!

Good work Neil. Hopefully no hate mail this week hope you get the lot!

Subscribed, and took the kids to a farm with no internet connection.  Smart choice of day out, Doobs.  Got the 2nd and 3rd on before I went though, but was planning on waiting on the runners in the first.

Great comeback Neil, kapow to the haters.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: bobby1 on August 20, 2014, 05:32:05 PM
Sounds like a great day, well done Neil.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on August 20, 2014, 09:52:30 PM
 Thanks fellas. Pretty knackered now. Those non-runners are such a pain when you have a deadline. Back to the grindstone at 5am.

 Three winners 16/1, 12/1 (took worse than sp pretty annoyingly), 11/2 and 50/1 placed (massive rule four on those two after Kingston Hill went). 145 pts up and an ROI of 82%. Pretty happy with that, a good platform.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2014, 03:32:29 PM


Absolutely so.....!



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
lovely very well backed again to


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2014, 03:35:36 PM
lovely very well backed again to

Was surprised to see the SP, must have been a lot of late money.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 03:36:47 PM
Think they got a bit of the Wokingham money back

Amazing run from the second two sub 11 second furlongs early on and still stayed on well


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on August 22, 2014, 03:39:10 PM
sounded like the ring is weak at york, not taking a lot of money to move some of these

pale mimosa was another, no money on course and shortened nearly a full point in the 20 mins before the off


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM

Wow @ that run by G Force, would think that one is well worth following. Doubt we'll see 25/1 again though.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on August 26, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
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Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 29, 2014, 09:07:24 AM
Morning Joe & Neil

Are we off to Doncaster in a few weeks for the St Leger?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: DMorgan on August 29, 2014, 07:26:06 PM
The Anchoring stuff in the newsletter was very interesting, immediately reminded me of this and its hugely applicable to poker too. wp Tighty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_inference


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on August 30, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
 Hi Stuart,

 I was a bit worried about doing Goodwood and York as I thought the markets might be significantly weaker than at the other meetings we covered this year and I definitely don't want to charge people and boast about winners, if the 1st five people had about 23 seconds to get eight quid on. At Goodwood there were times when the prices went instantly, luckily after knocking it in for a week, all those people that were smashing the prices gave up and although we had a decent three-figure number of followers at York, it seemed we could all get on (frustrating to break even after a great start).

 I know from experience that Donny just isn't like that. The races often cut up with end of season weather, a lack of horses around, alternative targets in Ireland and Longchamps as well as Ascot looming and a general lack of the each-way races that make the festivals so good.

 I fear that similar stories apply for Champions Day, the Arc meeting and the Breeders Cup so the next question is whether the Paddy Power or Hennessey meetings are enough of a festival. I'm not planning to be up early on Boxing Day when the internet may be dodgy where I am and that meeting suffers a bit from a lack of runners and a lack of depth so it may be a long wait until the festival and a lot more focus on NFL from a BE point of view.

 I will be tipping for free on Saturday's in Tighty's Road to Riches column on some of those stand-alone big races.

 Thanks for supporting us.


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Post by: JoeBeevers on September 02, 2014, 08:22:05 PM
NFL 'The New Season Approaches - What To Expect' - just published.

Free to read, registration not required.

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/60


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on September 03, 2014, 08:54:57 PM
 Cheers Dan. We definitely wanted the weekly newsletter to be a promo type thing and encourage people to look at the site regularly, know which events we are covering and hopefully get involved with winning money with us and subscribing to the paid stuff. One reason we loved the idea of Tighty writing it is that we all share the view that it's got to be useful in it's own right, be something interesting, that all punters can learn from and attempt to get through the "not this shit again...delete" problem that so much blurb from bookmakers suffers from.

 I don't usually see the Road to Riches before I go up and I always read them. Hoping Tighty has lots more good stuff up his sleeve (sure he has).

 My contribution was the name. Nobody managed to think of anything better.


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Post by: Marky147 on September 03, 2014, 09:11:18 PM
I only throw the odd couple quid at NFL, so wouldn't be worth me getting involved again this year.

I really enjoyed it last year though, and the write-ups were very, very interesting to read.

Hope that you all get the lot, across the antepost, and weekly markets!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on September 03, 2014, 09:42:05 PM
I only throw the odd couple quid at NFL, so wouldn't be worth me getting involved again this year.

I really enjoyed it last year though, and the write-ups were very, very interesting to read.

Hope that you all get the lot, across the antepost, and weekly markets!

Echo those sentiments.

Me and the boys from the mean chess streets of Birmingham will be cheering you on, nevertheless.

(http://londonunveiled.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/simpsons-chess-hall-image.jpg)

Fo shizzle.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on September 04, 2014, 09:03:10 AM
I only throw the odd couple quid at NFL, so wouldn't be worth me getting involved again this year.

I really enjoyed it last year though, and the write-ups were very, very interesting to read.

Hope that you all get the lot, across the antepost, and weekly markets!

Echo those sentiments.

Me and the boys from the mean chess streets of Birmingham will be cheering you on, nevertheless.

(http://londonunveiled.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/simpsons-chess-hall-image.jpg)

Fo shizzle.

Ha, you DID watch the Show then.

And Mr Channing WAS late. Max bet landed.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on September 04, 2014, 09:11:30 AM
Have it recorded. Just skipped last night to the bit where I figured my email would be read out. Will watch the rest tonight. I'm sure it's just as entertaining.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on September 12, 2014, 07:43:34 PM
Neil's St Leger picks in this week's Road to Riches at http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44

free to view, no registration required


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Bad Beat on September 25, 2014, 09:46:37 AM
 Just to let you know I did a write up on the Ryder Cup. We haven't really done too well on golf so far with Betting Emporium, it's our worse performing sport. I would say it's a tricky sport and it's main positive and also it's negative is the high variance. The prices you take are large, (in absolute terms, there aren't many sports where most bets you place are in the 33/1 to 50/1 region), but when you win you get "three months wages" in one go. It's more like playing tournament poker than a lot of what we are used to with sports betting. I would hope the losses are down to the variance and small sample size, rather than just having bad bets.

 Generally with Betting Emporium we have a policy of only ever tipping on events where there is a liquid and easily available market...we sometimes offer a free tip on something where you can only bet with a couple of firms and you can't get much on, but generally we believe that our best advert is our results page which shows a decent long-term profit over a large sample size. If it was all based on bets that you only had 23 seconds to get on for £3.65 then we wouldn't feel too comfortable with that. Joe and I are proud that the results are "real" in that anyone could follow all of our selections and be winning over £10,000 betting a tenner a point. It's for that reason that we are quite picky about which events we cover and with golf at the moment, we think it'll just be the Majors and the odd other big event, so it could take us a while to turn things round.

 It doesn't get too much bigger than the Ryder Cup though, I have personally invested pretty heavily on the bets I've recommended in my piece and I can se that the prices are still available more than 12 hours later, so I'm confident that we'll all get on. I love the bets and I'm looking forward to the action.

 Good luck us.


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Post by: superwomble on September 28, 2014, 12:30:28 AM
I should apologise to BE. 5 winning weeks in a row for the overs, I come along and have my first punt on them this season and both tips lose. What a Jonah!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: superwomble on September 29, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
Happy to say I'm not a complete Jonah - followed the golf tips too so thanks BE  :)up


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Omm on October 05, 2014, 04:04:27 PM
Well done. Neil, nice each way with Flintshire


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 04:07:21 PM
Well done. Neil, nice each way with Flintshire

Yup, great shout, and took an amazing horse to beat it.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: DropTheHammer on October 25, 2014, 12:42:19 PM
Well, Jaffa's Basketball tips didn't last long before being pulled from the bookies (2/3)  :(


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: simonnatur on October 31, 2014, 10:59:55 AM
Thanks for the Thurs night free tip, which won at a canter. Always nice to wake up, look at NFL.com and find you are a little wealthier.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on October 31, 2014, 11:01:17 AM
Neil will be writing up some Breeders Cup tips for Saturday night in tomorrow's weekly blog article


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: arbboy on October 31, 2014, 11:02:07 AM
Thanks for the Thurs night free tip, which won at a canter. Always nice to wake up, look at NFL.com and find you are a little wealthier.

If you have gone to bed 4 minutes before HT i would have slept a lot better than if you had gone to bed at the end of the 3rd qtr!!!! 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on October 31, 2014, 04:04:26 PM
Thanks for the Thurs night free tip, which won at a canter. Always nice to wake up, look at NFL.com and find you are a little wealthier.

If you have gone to bed 4 minutes before HT i would have slept a lot better than if you had gone to bed at the end of the 3rd qtr!!!! 

This, I bet under 39.5 points in running and was sweating badly going into the last 4 minutes lol. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: redarmi on October 31, 2014, 11:13:20 PM
Thanks for the Thurs night free tip, which won at a canter. Always nice to wake up, look at NFL.com and find you are a little wealthier.

If you have gone to bed 4 minutes before HT i would have slept a lot better than if you had gone to bed at the end of the 3rd qtr!!!! 

This, I bet under 39.5 points in running and was sweating badly going into the last 4 minutes lol. 

Ha! I bet under 49.5 and was still sweating.....which probably says more about the way this season has been than anything else.  You just expect to lose unders in ridic scenarios.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: arbboy on November 01, 2014, 12:58:08 AM
Thanks for the Thurs night free tip, which won at a canter. Always nice to wake up, look at NFL.com and find you are a little wealthier.

If you have gone to bed 4 minutes before HT i would have slept a lot better than if you had gone to bed at the end of the 3rd qtr!!!! 

This, I bet under 39.5 points in running and was sweating badly going into the last 4 minutes lol. 

Ha! I bet under 49.5 and was still sweating.....which probably says more about the way this season has been than anything else.  You just expect to lose unders in ridic scenarios.

I would love to be a fav over guy this TV nfl season. Like shelling peas never seen anything like it


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on November 01, 2014, 09:48:47 AM
"Today Neil Channing looks at one of tonight's Breeders Cup Races:

"The race I like at the Breeders Cup tonight is the Filly and Mare Turf at 7.43 pm


http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44 "


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on November 01, 2014, 08:20:35 PM
"Today Neil Channing looks at one of tonight's Breeders Cup Races:

"The race I like at the Breeders Cup tonight is the Filly and Mare Turf at 7.43 pm


http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/44 "

Nice work, lads, well done.

The race panned out pretty much as you suggested, but just short of the win.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on November 03, 2014, 10:45:16 PM
Melbourne Cup, 4am Flemington - free write up by Neil just gone up.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 05, 2014, 11:00:07 PM
5 out of 6 winners for Brodders tonight. Great stuff, thanks.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on November 10, 2014, 10:25:33 AM
Do Betting Emporium do poker tips, too?

This was last night's Sky Poker UKOPS Main Event.




Hammmmers 4690000 1st/469 £11725
NeilBBP 0 2 £6566
CMoorman 0 3 £3873.94



The kid in 3rd is rumoured to be handy, too.

Well done Neil.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: DropTheHammer on November 12, 2014, 11:05:23 PM
Great tipping from Brodders again tonight with 4/4 winners. I didn't manage to get on but wp.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: mickyw78 on November 17, 2014, 09:09:18 PM
Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on November 22, 2014, 03:01:37 PM

Boom!

Wonderful stuff NEIL, thank you. Not bad for a free tip, either!

Did not seem much wrong with his jumping today, either.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: simonnatur on November 22, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
One Neil Channing, there's only one Neil Channing!  etc etc ad infinitum

Thankyou


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: icles test on November 22, 2014, 03:04:50 PM
well done, ty for the effort


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: DropTheHammer on November 22, 2014, 03:05:43 PM
Wooo! Thanks Neil    :-D


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Post by: JoeBeevers on December 17, 2014, 03:00:18 PM
Quick spam alert.

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Redarmi will be doing free write ups and analysis on Bettingemporium.com.


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Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BorntoBubble on December 17, 2014, 05:43:38 PM
Quick spam alert.

College Football starts Dec 20th and runs until January 12th. Fixtures are here: http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls

Redarmi will be doing free write ups and analysis on Bettingemporium.com.


PDC World Darts Championship
starts tomorrow (Thursday 18th December). We have Nigel Seeley providing analysis and write ups. Full package is £49.99

Joe how much per point do you recommend to be betting to make the Darts worthwhile?

I have a busy Christmas and although its nice to have sweats my decision for whether or not to take the package will be purely financial

(I understand I can lose as well as win ;))

Callum


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on December 17, 2014, 06:21:46 PM
Quick spam alert.

College Football starts Dec 20th and runs until January 12th. Fixtures are here: http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls

Redarmi will be doing free write ups and analysis on Bettingemporium.com.


PDC World Darts Championship
starts tomorrow (Thursday 18th December). We have Nigel Seeley providing analysis and write ups. Full package is £49.99

Joe how much per point do you recommend to be betting to make the Darts worthwhile?

I have a busy Christmas and although its nice to have sweats my decision for whether or not to take the package will be purely financial

(I understand I can lose as well as win ;))

Callum


Neil answered this question on twitter earlier:

Dan Whittaker ‏@AcesElky 7h7 hours ago
@bettingemporium @SenseiChanning What sort of roll am I going to need? Working out if its worth me subscribing or not

Neil Channing ‏@SenseiChanning 7h7 hours ago
@AcesElky @bettingemporium Maybe place 20-25 bets over 16 days plus outright, prob avg 14 points a bet so 400-500 points. Expect to make...

...5-10% so at 5% of 400 make 20 points, no good if less than £3 a point, prob need to be at least £5 preferably...

...£10. If we lost every single bet you could lose £5000 at £10 a bet but I think a £2000 bank would be comfortable.

...Could play £5 a point off £1000 but you'll be betting £250 on the outrights already, ought to win £100 to £250.




I also think that a lot of the bets will be around the even money mark so there is far less volatility than perhaps something like horse racing.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BorntoBubble on December 17, 2014, 11:06:08 PM
Perfect I'm in!


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on December 21, 2014, 02:24:27 PM

Loving the darts stuff.

2 from 3 today, that'll do nicely, thank you.


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Post by: RWilson58 on December 28, 2014, 02:22:57 PM
Now the season is nearly over, it is time to ask serious questions. This is not meant as abuse, it is an honest query you need to  address I think.
I subscribed to Neils NFL service last year and betting £100 per point I lost the value of a small car. I decided not to subscribe this year and thank god I did not because it looks like I would have lost a rather nice motor betting at the same stakes.
My question is this. I know Neil is obviously a huge winner betting on NFL over the years. But -5% ROI over the last two year is damn woeful if you ask me. At what point do you stop blaming variance and bad luck and accept the market has moved on and edges you have previously enjoyed have been ironed out?


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Post by: Doobs on December 28, 2014, 02:38:16 PM
Now the season is nearly over, it is time to ask serious questions. This is not meant as abuse, it is an honest query you need to  address I think.
I subscribed to Neils NFL service last year and betting £100 per point I lost the value of a small car. I decided not to subscribe this year and thank god I did not because it looks like I would have lost a rather nice motor betting at the same stakes.
My question is this. I know Neil is obviously a huge winner betting on NFL over the years. But -5% ROI over the last two year is damn woeful if you ask me. At what point do you stop blaming variance and bad luck and accept the market has moved on and edges you have previously enjoyed have been ironed out?

In February 2013, you joined here specifically to criticise Neil, then afterwards decided to put £100 point on his NFL tips.  My kids are less obvious. 


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Post by: redarmi on December 28, 2014, 03:23:19 PM
Now the season is nearly over, it is time to ask serious questions. This is not meant as abuse, it is an honest query you need to  address I think.
I subscribed to Neils NFL service last year and betting £100 per point I lost the value of a small car. I decided not to subscribe this year and thank god I did not because it looks like I would have lost a rather nice motor betting at the same stakes.
My question is this. I know Neil is obviously a huge winner betting on NFL over the years. But -5% ROI over the last two year is damn woeful if you ask me. At what point do you stop blaming variance and bad luck and accept the market has moved on and edges you have previously enjoyed have been ironed out?

I'll bite.  Any bets that you make are made with your own money and at your own risk but what you can guarantee with Neil is that he will work very very hard to try and give you winning advice.  Full disclosure means that I must point out that Neil is a good friend of mine but that friendship means that I know he is up when others are coming home on a Sunday morning working on this stuff and he doesn't stop until the bets are up.  That is what you pay for but there is always a risk that you will lose especially over an NFL season  There is also a much bigger chance that variance is at play than most people realise.  If you are a punter that hits 55% of his bets over an NFL season (which would make you a 5% winner) there is a 26% chance you lose on any individual season just down to luck (assuming 200 bets in a season which might be too high actually).  That isn't to say that nothing has changed and I am sure that Neil will admit that maybe he didn't factor in the rules changes enough earlier in the season when betting a lot of unders etc but I would bet on him to make the adjustments neccesary and still be a long term winner.  Incidentally by my calculations Neil has win 906 points on his racing stuff, lost 143 points on his NFL and 163 points on his golf which makes him 600 points up in total.....what are you doing with the cars you bought with the racing profits?


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Post by: BorntoBubble on December 29, 2014, 05:11:51 PM
I don't understand how anyone can be frustrated with BE.

To me it's just an enhanced TFT. I know at any point we could have a bad patch or a bad run of luck, I don't bet more than I can afford and if I'm down on tips I've paid for I know it's not down to any lack of efforts put in by the tipsters. Redarmi has been agaistn united for a few weeks I disagreed with the first two and didn't follow his bets. I agreed his week and followed in and it was a close match but in my opion we were unlucky. On other sports where I know less I bet blind following tips but might be more cautious.

With BE you are paying for a tipping service but they do not just give you tips, they give you explanation, logic and if you make the effort you can learn a hell of a lot off them. I just hope they don't "give up" when people who complain for losing to much!

I'm happy, keep tipping, keep helping. I've steadily increased the amount of points I bet and I bet different points for different people (on TFT, BE and other places.)I love the service and wish you all the best in 2015. I'm steadily signing up for more and more services thanks to your profits I can afford it!

Thanks again callum


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Post by: Kmac84 on December 29, 2014, 10:57:39 PM
Stu at what point do we start backing overs in this bowl game? 

I've missed the unders, should it just be a watching brief now or does there come a point when we can have a dash at overs. 


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Post by: The Camel on December 29, 2014, 10:59:59 PM
Very impressed with Nigel Seeley on the darts so far.

A couple of times I wanted to ask questions related to his train of thought (betting on related markets to his selections)

Any chance of adding a forum?


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Post by: JoeBeevers on December 30, 2014, 02:07:11 PM
Very impressed with Nigel Seeley on the darts so far.

A couple of times I wanted to ask questions related to his train of thought (betting on related markets to his selections)

Any chance of adding a forum?

Thanks Keith, he certainly is very knowledgeable.

We have talked about a forum but feel that it would create a load of extra work that we just can't handle at the moment.

Nigel is on Twitter @seeley_nigel  and you can always email support@bettingemporium.com and mark an email for his attention.


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Post by: redarmi on December 30, 2014, 11:28:22 PM
Stu at what point do we start backing overs in this bowl game? 

I've missed the unders, should it just be a watching brief now or does there come a point when we can have a dash at overs. 

Sorry mate I missed this.   I did notice it had been bet down to 49 and would pretty much never still be betting unders at that point but generally speaking I would need a minimum 4.5 point move on a total before I could even conceive of betting overs and realistically for a decent sized bet like that it would need to be 6+ points so it is very rare I would be betting overs.


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Post by: tikay on January 05, 2015, 12:00:22 AM

Really enjoyed the darts write ups, backed a good few of the daily tips, but I somehow missed your pre-Tourament tip, Gary Anderson.

Great write ups, educational & understandable, well done all & especially to your Darty Chap. 


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Post by: JoeBeevers on January 23, 2015, 03:17:29 PM
Neil has written up a free Superbowl preview. You can read it here:

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/85


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Post by: BorntoBubble on January 23, 2015, 03:29:23 PM
The tennis has been great so far this week.

One thought I have been wondering about though is we have only been backing match result so far. (Albeit doing very very well!)

No sub markets have been bet on, handicaps, over under games etc. Which seem to be very common in other sports as where the "edge" can be made. Is there any reason for this or are they harder to beat the bookie on tennis in these sub markets where maybe they give themselves bigger margins?

Looking forward to the Super Bowl mainly because of TFT and BE. Hopfing to have muchos £££ invested to the point where at 4am on Monday morning I have no idea as to whether I've won lost or broke even but I will be very drunk enjoy the game :)!


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Post by: Skippy on January 23, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
Neil has written up a free Superbowl preview. You can read it here:

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/85


It's down on the website as £25, not free.


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Post by: TightEnd on January 23, 2015, 03:55:46 PM
Neil has written up a free Superbowl preview. You can read it here:

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/85


It's down on the website as £25, not free.

this is a free preview of next week's content, and the game

next week's stuff is £25


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Post by: swinebag22 on February 10, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
£200 for Cheltenham.

I'm not complaining; the analysis is great and I have learnt a lot (and profited) from previous packages. £200 just about prices out the rec punters like myself.

I suppose this is a clear strat (I can't imagine Neil will make that much more from subscriptions) as it probably means that everyone who subscribes will be able to get on at the recommended price, which may have been a problem with previous racing packages. Also there will be less rec punters abusing on twitter after a losing day, which I must imagine made for a pretty unrewarding experience.

Good luck with the package and hope you clear up again


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Post by: BorntoBubble on February 11, 2015, 12:34:45 AM
£200 for Cheltenham.

I'm not complaining; the analysis is great and I have learnt a lot (and profited) from previous packages. £200 just about prices out the rec punters like myself.

I suppose this is a clear strat (I can't imagine Neil will make that much more from subscriptions) as it probably means that everyone who subscribes will be able to get on at the recommended price, which may have been a problem with previous racing packages. Also there will be less rec punters abusing on twitter after a losing day, which I must imagine made for a pretty unrewarding experience.

Good luck with the package and hope you clear up again

Yeah this is the first package where I have taken a sharp intake of breath for the price and will have to think about it, it will depend on how punting is going on the run up to me as a rec, I love the tips and I understand Neil's value, and as the packages get more expensive it helps the punters as less people are getting on. But the risk reward for me becomes a bit to high, as I will probably punt higher to make it worthwhile. I do wonder if there will be a tipping point for neil but im sure he will look at the numbers after Chelt and see hows it goes!

Good luck I hope I am with you.


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Post by: arbboy on February 11, 2015, 01:00:49 AM
£200 for Cheltenham.

I'm not complaining; the analysis is great and I have learnt a lot (and profited) from previous packages. £200 just about prices out the rec punters like myself.

I suppose this is a clear strat (I can't imagine Neil will make that much more from subscriptions) as it probably means that everyone who subscribes will be able to get on at the recommended price, which may have been a problem with previous racing packages. Also there will be less rec punters abusing on twitter after a losing day, which I must imagine made for a pretty unrewarding experience.

Good luck with the package and hope you clear up again

Yeah this is the first package where I have taken a sharp intake of breath for the price and will have to think about it, it will depend on how punting is going on the run up to me as a rec, I love the tips and I understand Neil's value, and as the packages get more expensive it helps the punters as less people are getting on. But the risk reward for me becomes a bit to high, as I will probably punt higher to make it worthwhile. I do wonder if there will be a tipping point for neil but im sure he will look at the numbers after Chelt and see hows it goes!

Good luck I hope I am with you.

It also means people will just club together and pay once for the package between them and share the info.  I know at least 4 people who are talking about doing this already.  It obviously goes on anyway but the higher the price the more likely this is to happen.  It defeats the object of the exercise to reduce the number of people who get the info to protect the price.  

I think it's impossible to know the 'right' way to do stuff like this from BE's point of view.  I agree with what they are doing in theory as it should be for the best but the reality says something different will happen.

FWIW i think the info is easily worth the £200 price tag.  I am just trying to be realistic to what actually happens in the real world.  I personally think BE is one of the very few 'real' advisory services which is done for the right reasons and actually makes a profit through hard work not dodgy advertising/twisted stats like so many 'tipping lines' do.


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Post by: BigAdz on February 18, 2015, 03:21:11 PM
Just saw that Neil is on The Betting Lab on RUK later at 6pm. It prompted me to see what BE was up to.

V surprised at the hike in fee for Chelts. It may well price out the £5/£10 per race punters, especially when the modus operandi is to punt 3/4/5 in a race.

That said, I'm sure its about now Neil will pop up and show us his tipping prowess, and supply enough winners to provide the same punters with the funds to pay for it!

GL to all this Cheltenham. Can't wait!!


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Post by: arbboy on February 18, 2015, 03:55:49 PM
I think the minimum stake punters they were ever looking for was £50-£100 a race types with their staking plan in previous years.  Now you are going to be looking at being a £100-£200 a race type of punter if you want to make it pay longer term after fees.  £5/£10 a race guys would literally never make it pay at any stage.  They must have such a bulging high staking poker client base though that it makes total sense to put it up to £200 to protect the prices with the firms for the higher rolling clients they have.  Also gets rid of the guys who can't really afford it but have a spin then moan like fuck when they do their nuts over 1 day.  Must be incredibly tilting having to deal with people like that who just don't get the game long term when you put so much work into it and are backing the stuff yourself as well.





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Post by: Tonibell on February 18, 2015, 04:46:55 PM
Would you ever pay for tips? It's like paying for sex - you know it's probably cheaper in the long run but what an admission of defeat.


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Post by: tikay on February 18, 2015, 04:50:11 PM
Would you ever pay for tips? It's like paying for sex - you know it's probably cheaper in the long run but what an admission of defeat.

Pay for sex?

Nah, I'm a seller, not a buyer. Things are a bit quiet right now, but it's seasonal.


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Post by: Tonibell on February 18, 2015, 05:00:26 PM
Heard you won't stand a proper customer, only let them have half what they want.


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Post by: tikay on February 18, 2015, 05:05:47 PM
Heard you won't stand a proper customer, only let them have half what they want.

Ha!

I call it "severely restricted". 5 minutes tops.


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Post by: Tonibell on February 18, 2015, 05:09:11 PM
Haha. Many liberty-takers try to flick it all in?


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Post by: tikay on February 18, 2015, 05:20:31 PM
Haha. Many liberty-takers try to flick it all in?

You'd be amazed at the strokes they pull to try & get on.


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Post by: Tonibell on February 18, 2015, 05:28:49 PM
Just have to accept some beards?


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Post by: BigAdz on February 18, 2015, 05:33:48 PM
Would you ever pay for tips? It's like paying for sex - you know it's probably cheaper in the long run but what an admission of defeat.


LoL.

Have paid for tips in the dim and distant. Inevitably many tipsters were just plain old charlatans/rob dogs etc and knew very little, and it quickly showed. Once I exorcised the need to cut corners I  realised over the years that there is absolutely no substitute for putting in the hours of work yourself. I doubt there are more than a couple of dozen people in this country that watch as much racing as I do each week, and if you back it up with solid notes, and tracker updates, and read daily news, stable tours, you can make it pay. It certainly turned me from a racing punter that had as many bad years as good, to a pretty decent one, when I finally decided to up my game. Same as in most things we do though, there is no magic secret, just hard work. There is also no better feeling than picking the winner, when all around others are putting up various other selections.

There are plenty of great sites (Linfoot on SL/Nutting,Taylor and Brien on Attheraces) that produce a regular flow of decent priced winners, that are free. We don't do too bad on the Racing Thread either!


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Post by: arbboy on February 19, 2015, 12:52:15 PM
Would you ever pay for tips? It's like paying for sex - you know it's probably cheaper in the long run but what an admission of defeat.


LoL.

Have paid for tips in the dim and distant. Inevitably many tipsters were just plain old charlatans/rob dogs etc and knew very little, and it quickly showed. Once I exorcised the need to cut corners I  realised over the years that there is absolutely no substitute for putting in the hours of work yourself. I doubt there are more than a couple of dozen people in this country that watch as much racing as I do each week, and if you back it up with solid notes, and tracker updates, and read daily news, stable tours, you can make it pay. It certainly turned me from a racing punter that had as many bad years as good, to a pretty decent one, when I finally decided to up my game. Same as in most things we do though, there is no magic secret, just hard work. There is also no better feeling than picking the winner, when all around others are putting up various other selections.

There are plenty of great sites (Linfoot on SL/Nutting,Taylor and Brien on Attheraces) that produce a regular flow of decent priced winners, that are free. We don't do too bad on the Racing Thread either!

That's an incredible claim given the fact that there must be at least 100 loltraders for betting firms who watch at least 50/60 hours of racing a week before all the full time racing pros on betfair/on course.  Timeform judges/analysts/atr presenters/racing post spotlight writers etc etc.  How much racing do you watch a week adz?  Not intended as a dig i am seriously interested.


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Post by: Omm on February 19, 2015, 08:08:25 PM
I'm sure I've seen Adz mention before that he watches every UK race, the ones he can't watch at the time he records and watches later. I may be wrong of course.


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Post by: Marky147 on February 19, 2015, 08:11:38 PM
Adz is married, so I reckon that's nailed on, and he probably gives them a 2nd spin if he can get away with it ;D

The crap that some pundits/judges come out with on TV, I reckon they watch less racing than me!


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Post by: arbboy on February 19, 2015, 08:11:57 PM
I'm sure I've seen Adz mention before that he watches every UK race, the ones he can't watch at the time he records and watches later. I may be wrong of course.

Even all the banded shit from wolves Dundalk kemp ton Chelmsford City etc etc, so much of racing in  2015 I wouldn't watch even if I could make a screw out of it.  Fair play if he does.


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Post by: Tal on February 19, 2015, 08:16:29 PM
I'm sure I've seen Adz mention before that he watches every UK race, the ones he can't watch at the time he records and watches later. I may be wrong of course.

Even all the banded shit from wolves Dundalk kemp ton Chelmsford City etc etc, so much of racing in  2015 I wouldn't watch even if I could make a screw out of it.  Fair play if he does.

If he's prepared to watch ten years of arsenal winning nothing, he'll watch seller's races at Dundalk.


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Post by: arbboy on February 19, 2015, 08:23:04 PM
I'm sure I've seen Adz mention before that he watches every UK race, the ones he can't watch at the time he records and watches later. I may be wrong of course.

Even all the banded shit from wolves Dundalk kemp ton Chelmsford City etc etc, so much of racing in  2015 I wouldn't watch even if I could make a screw out of it.  Fair play if he does.

If he's prepared to watch ten years of arsenal winning nothing, he'll watch seller's races at Dundalk.

 Who will he bite at first? Yid or arb!!!!


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Post by: Tal on February 19, 2015, 08:27:12 PM
I'm sure I've seen Adz mention before that he watches every UK race, the ones he can't watch at the time he records and watches later. I may be wrong of course.

Even all the banded shit from wolves Dundalk kemp ton Chelmsford City etc etc, so much of racing in  2015 I wouldn't watch even if I could make a screw out of it.  Fair play if he does.

If he's prepared to watch ten years of arsenal winning nothing, he'll watch seller's races at Dundalk.

 Who will he bite at first? Yid or arb!!!!

We kick off in ten mins so that might answer itself...


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Post by: Marky147 on February 19, 2015, 08:32:46 PM
Neither, because Eastenders is on ;)


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Post by: arbboy on February 19, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
 Have a bullseye on max branning at 50s months ago after a nutter bird told me I have to back it at a Xmas party. Went into single figures. Now a 66/1 shot. So much ev gone south! 

We need to stop derailing Neil's thread with pointless garbage! He is trying to run a business!


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Post by: Marky147 on February 19, 2015, 09:28:56 PM
Have a bullseye on max branning at 50s months ago after a nutter bird told me I have to back it at a Xmas party. Went into single figures. Now a 66/1 shot. So much ev gone south! 

We need to stop derailing Neil's thread with pointless garbage! He is trying to run a business!

I purposely steered well clear of it, even though my old dear had a new suggestion every couple eps!


It'a alright, Tikay and his oppo are worse than us, so I wouldn't worry :D


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Post by: TightEnd on February 20, 2015, 05:28:15 PM
Details of the Betting Emporium 2015 Cheltenham Preview night at

http://www.bettingemporium.com/pages/view/cheltenham-preview-night-saturday-7th-march-2015


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Post by: edgascoigne on February 20, 2015, 08:11:56 PM
Eminently possible that Gascoignes Senior and Junior will be there - just trying to diarise!!


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Post by: BigAdz on February 24, 2015, 01:37:47 PM
I was interested to read as part of this BE evening both Sporting Bet and Sky are looking to offer and take some bets at inflated odds. At the time I chuckled. Enough said.


I just tried to see google the body slam from shab khan, and was bizarrely taken to a youtube video of Neil doing a Sporting Bet preview of the Champion Hurdle.

I watch most of what Neil has to say, and so watched this as I am always amused at Mr Wiseman pretending that Sporting Bet actually take decent bets. Normally you can hear him promising this, but his face tells a different tale!

I am a big Faugheen fan, and have got a decent amount on at decent odds, but Neil made a very good argument to cover this with an ew bet on Jezki.

Wiseman said SB would be laying Jezki at 6-1 for decent money.

As an experiment, as a blacked balled customer able to get a max of 10p on anything(even though I had a small losing account), I would deposit the mighty sum of £10 and take the now reduced price of 5-1(-ev, but worth it to find out). So i tried to take the 5-1 for £5 ew on a losing account on The Champion Hurdle,one of the biggest punting races of the year.

My initial bet was rejected and I was offered £4ew.

I suspect Sporting Bet, may not get the lions share of any cash floating about on the 7th March, if the evening is full of big punting shrewdies!

I am sure, that it will still be an entertaining evening though. Gl with it.


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Post by: swinebag22 on February 24, 2015, 01:43:50 PM
I was interested to read as part of this BE evening both Sporting Bet and Sky are looking to offer and take some bets at inflated odds. At the time I chuckled. Enough said.


I just tried to see google the body slam from shab khan, and was bizarrely taken to a youtube video of Neil doing a Sporting Bet preview of the Champion Hurdle.

I watch most of what Neil has to say, and so watched this as I am always amused at Mr Wiseman pretending that Sporting Bet actually take decent bets. Normally you can hear him promising this, but his face tells a different tale!

I am a big Faugheen fan, and have got a decent amount on at decent odds, but Neil made a very good argument to cover this with an ew bet on Jezki.

Wiseman said SB would be laying Jezki at 6-1 for decent money.

As an experiment, as a blacked balled customer able to get a max of 10p on anything(even though I had a small losing account), I would deposit the mighty sum of £10 and take the now reduced price of 5-1(-ev, but worth it to find out). So i tried to take the 5-1 for £5 ew on a losing account on The Champion Hurdle,one of the biggest punting races of the year.

My initial bet was rejected and I was offered £4ew.

I suspect Sporting Bet, may not get the lions share of any cash floating about on the 7th March, if the evening is full of big punting shrewdies!

I am sure, that it will still be an entertaining evening though. Gl with it.

BE have been tweeting that restricted customers at sportingbet should get in touch with Neil/Joe to see if they can get unrestricted. Would be interesting if you did this Adz and then fed back how it went.


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Post by: TightEnd on February 24, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
the message reads

"If you've had your Sportingbet account restricted in the past we may be able to get you back in action there. Email support@bettingemporium.com"

worth a shot/nothing to lose


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Post by: BigAdz on February 24, 2015, 02:23:51 PM
Never saw that I'm afraid.

I don't do that tweeting stuff, so would never have had the message, but appreciated. Thanks Guys.


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Post by: The Camel on February 24, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
I was interested to read as part of this BE evening both Sporting Bet and Sky are looking to offer and take some bets at inflated odds. At the time I chuckled. Enough said.


I just tried to see google the body slam from shab khan, and was bizarrely taken to a youtube video of Neil doing a Sporting Bet preview of the Champion Hurdle.

I watch most of what Neil has to say, and so watched this as I am always amused at Mr Wiseman pretending that Sporting Bet actually take decent bets. Normally you can hear him promising this, but his face tells a different tale!

I am a big Faugheen fan, and have got a decent amount on at decent odds, but Neil made a very good argument to cover this with an ew bet on Jezki.

Wiseman said SB would be laying Jezki at 6-1 for decent money.

As an experiment, as a blacked balled customer able to get a max of 10p on anything(even though I had a small losing account), I would deposit the mighty sum of £10 and take the now reduced price of 5-1(-ev, but worth it to find out). So i tried to take the 5-1 for £5 ew on a losing account on The Champion Hurdle,one of the biggest punting races of the year.

My initial bet was rejected and I was offered £4ew.

I suspect Sporting Bet, may not get the lions share of any cash floating about on the 7th March, if the evening is full of big punting shrewdies!

I am sure, that it will still be an entertaining evening though. Gl with it.

 ;bigadz;

Pre race after timing.

Quite beautifully slipped in to a post about a totally different subject :)


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Post by: exstream on February 24, 2015, 03:06:21 PM
^That made me laugh lol


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Post by: bobby1 on February 24, 2015, 03:10:56 PM
the message reads

"If you've had your Sportingbet account restricted in the past we may be able to get you back in action there. Email support@bettingemporium.com"

worth a shot/nothing to lose

Prepare to be given a list of things you can't do, like bet on horses in the morning, bet ew in races they don't like and can only bet to win a pretty small amount.

Of course there is also the option of opening a new account using the affiliate link that BE have with a Sportingbet. Where when you lose they win, so it makes a difference to them if you can get more on. Do people that get re activated with Sporting Bet  by BE get moved on to the BE affiliate deal upon reactivation Rich?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on February 24, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
^That made me laugh lol

Wait until you see our antepost books then ;)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: exstream on February 24, 2015, 03:19:20 PM
^That made me laugh lol

Wait until you see our antepost books then ;)

Let me in the group for next year :D


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on February 24, 2015, 03:19:39 PM
the message reads

"If you've had your Sportingbet account restricted in the past we may be able to get you back in action there. Email support@bettingemporium.com"

worth a shot/nothing to lose

Prepare to be given a list of things you can't do, like bet on horses in the morning, bet ew in races they don't like and can only bet to win a pretty small amount.

Of course there is also the option of opening a new account using the affiliate link that BE have with a Sportingbet. Where when you lose they win, so it makes a difference to them if you can get more on. Do people that get re activated with Sporting Bet  by BE get moved on to the BE affiliate deal upon reactivation Rich?

Absolutely no idea. i copied the message from the front page of the site

i suspect anyone emailing who wants to know can ask.

either way Phil, the cynicism towards some people trying to establish a newish business is a bit baffling to me. It's as if being an entrepreneur, or making a business work is completely unacceptable.

the post on tftf earlier was completely off-beam, having a good old stab at people just for the sake of it and now you make one of the points again here?

Just odd, really.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: bobby1 on February 24, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
the message reads

"If you've had your Sportingbet account restricted in the past we may be able to get you back in action there. Email support@bettingemporium.com"

worth a shot/nothing to lose

Prepare to be given a list of things you can't do, like bet on horses in the morning, bet ew in races they don't like and can only bet to win a pretty small amount.

Of course there is also the option of opening a new account using the affiliate link that BE have with a Sportingbet. Where when you lose they win, so it makes a difference to them if you can get more on. Do people that get re activated with Sporting Bet  by BE get moved on to the BE affiliate deal upon reactivation Rich?

Absolutely no idea. i copied the message from the front page of the site

i suspect anyone emailing who wants to know can ask.

either way Phil, the cynicism towards some people trying to establish a newish business is a bit baffling to me. It's as if being an entrepreneur, or making a business work is completely unacceptable.

the post on tftf earlier was completely off-beam, having a good old stab at people just for the sake of it and now you make one of the points again here?

Just odd, really.

It isn't odd at all Rich, do you really want me to post in detail instead. Do you think that would be better?





Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on February 24, 2015, 03:32:34 PM
the message reads

"If you've had your Sportingbet account restricted in the past we may be able to get you back in action there. Email support@bettingemporium.com"

worth a shot/nothing to lose

Prepare to be given a list of things you can't do, like bet on horses in the morning, bet ew in races they don't like and can only bet to win a pretty small amount.

Of course there is also the option of opening a new account using the affiliate link that BE have with a Sportingbet. Where when you lose they win, so it makes a difference to them if you can get more on. Do people that get re activated with Sporting Bet  by BE get moved on to the BE affiliate deal upon reactivation Rich?

Absolutely no idea. i copied the message from the front page of the site

i suspect anyone emailing who wants to know can ask.

either way Phil, the cynicism towards some people trying to establish a newish business is a bit baffling to me. It's as if being an entrepreneur, or making a business work is completely unacceptable.

the post on tftf earlier was completely off-beam, having a good old stab at people just for the sake of it and now you make one of the points again here?

Just odd, really.

It isn't odd at all Rich, do you really want me to post in detail instead. Do you think that would be better?





i don't mind Phil, its nothing to do with me but constant negative posting isn't helping anyone

all i do is try and make the forum a success in the face of some headwinds



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: BigAdz on February 24, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
I was interested to read as part of this BE evening both Sporting Bet and Sky are looking to offer and take some bets at inflated odds. At the time I chuckled. Enough said.


I just tried to see google the body slam from shab khan, and was bizarrely taken to a youtube video of Neil doing a Sporting Bet preview of the Champion Hurdle.

I watch most of what Neil has to say, and so watched this as I am always amused at Mr Wiseman pretending that Sporting Bet actually take decent bets. Normally you can hear him promising this, but his face tells a different tale!

I am a big Faugheen fan, and have got a decent amount on at decent odds, but Neil made a very good argument to cover this with an ew bet on Jezki.

Wiseman said SB would be laying Jezki at 6-1 for decent money.

As an experiment, as a blacked balled customer able to get a max of 10p on anything(even though I had a small losing account), I would deposit the mighty sum of £10 and take the now reduced price of 5-1(-ev, but worth it to find out). So i tried to take the 5-1 for £5 ew on a losing account on The Champion Hurdle,one of the biggest punting races of the year.

My initial bet was rejected and I was offered £4ew.

I suspect Sporting Bet, may not get the lions share of any cash floating about on the 7th March, if the evening is full of big punting shrewdies!

I am sure, that it will still be an entertaining evening though. Gl with it.

 ;bigadz;

Pre race after timing.

Quite beautifully slipped in to a post about a totally different subject :)


I think it is all part of the tale old chap! Many on Fred know I am on Faugheen, but if you wish to add it to my portfolio of somewhat dubious aftertiming posts, knock yourself out!! ;D


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 25, 2015, 01:11:48 PM
the message reads

"If you've had your Sportingbet account restricted in the past we may be able to get you back in action there. Email support@bettingemporium.com"

worth a shot/nothing to lose

Prepare to be given a list of things you can't do, like bet on horses in the morning, bet ew in races they don't like and can only bet to win a pretty small amount.

Of course there is also the option of opening a new account using the affiliate link that BE have with a Sportingbet. Where when you lose they win, so it makes a difference to them if you can get more on. Do people that get re activated with Sporting Bet  by BE get moved on to the BE affiliate deal upon reactivation Rich?

Phil,

What's it got to do with you and why do you care?

Yes we have various affiliation deals with bookmakers. Yes our business makes money from those affiliations. Some are based on profits and some on turn over or CPA. There is nothing at all wrong with that - it's all pretty standard. The deal we have affects the punter in no way whatsoever. The only difference or benefit a punter may have through signing up through BE is that we have some offers that are not generally available and often more importantly we have great relations in the industry that can help sometimes.

If our members only bet on our suggested selections they would win. It's that simple and we would be very happy if that was all they did. Betting £10 a point on all bets is showing a profit of over £13,000 (an average bet would be about £150 or 15 points). Do you think that our members should not be entitled to use their accounts how they wish? Should they have other bets that lose we may earn from our affiliation. We are running a business and we make no apology for that. It's one of the ways that we make money running our business. Or do you not think that people should run businesses? We are running a business that employs staff and pays taxes. Do you think we should do all the work we do and all the energy we spend on running it for free or something?


With regards to Sportingbet. They are aware that a number of accounts in the past have been heavily restricted. They also know that we are aware of a lot of these and a lot of BE members are restricted. Yes there may be certain rules that accounts have to follow to get unrestricted such as not always backing horses in the morning or night before that shorten or not line tracking on Oddschecker. If by agreeing to things like that you can get your account unrestricted so you can use it then great. It you don't want to agree to that then that is your loss. We have succeeded in getting a number of accounts unrestricted already and have many happy punters. Some have even thanked us for helping them to understand why accounts get restricted and what bookmakers look for.

Fair play is better than no play.

I'm a bit confused. Do you think that everyone should be able to bet on anything for any amount at any time of the night or day? You seem disappointed that you can't and you seem to be criticising us as a result. Do you think you could have a word with your bosses at Bet365 to get my 0.1% account unrestricted please?

So take your cynicism elsewhere Mr Quayle. I would have thought someone who had been in the industry working for high profile bookmakers would know better. Or are you just having another snipe at BE and our business?

Adz, If your account is restricted as you say then you wouldn't have been able to get the £50 ew without contacting @sportingbetruss on Twitter first. If you would like your account looked at we can get that sorted out for you. We have a good success rate but it's not 100%, some accounts are unsalvageable and we'll explain details if you email us. Please email full name and username to support@bettingemporium.com and we'll see if we can help.

With regards to the Cheltenham Preview night, yes Sportingbet and Sky will be doing special offers and enhanced prices for attendees. Why not come along and meet the people involved? You might just learn something, have some fun, and get a decent bet at the same time.





Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: bobby1 on February 25, 2015, 02:39:56 PM
I read the other thread first but again the sense of entitlement shines thru here Joe.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on February 25, 2015, 04:36:33 PM
I read the other thread first but again the sense of entitlement shines thru here Joe.

I have replied on the other thread:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56581.95460


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: exstream on March 12, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
Didn't sign up, how are BE doing this Cheltenham?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 12, 2015, 07:41:47 PM
Didn't sign up, how are BE doing this Cheltenham?

I feel like we are treading water a bit. We have had one winning day from three, one winner and many placed horses including 28/1, 25/1 (twice) and 20/1 (twice). Bit frustrating.

Full results will be posted after the festival. Neil is just trying to find another Lord Windermere for tomorrow ;-)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: MattyHollis on March 13, 2015, 11:41:50 PM
Didn't sign up, how are BE doing this Cheltenham?

I feel like we are treading water a bit. We have had one winning day from three, one winner and many placed horses including 28/1, 25/1 (twice) and 20/1 (twice). Bit frustrating.

Full results will be posted after the festival. Neil is just trying to find another Lord Windermere for tomorrow ;-)

Did he find it?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: pleno1 on March 14, 2015, 04:56:23 AM
Intrigued how this went. Didn't listen to one race/watch anything at all. Would check tips for tikay but seems lot to catch up on. Everybody seemed to say on facebook they had the winners etc but I guess that may happen every year. Did the bookies take a beating? Did you guys clean up?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 14, 2015, 12:05:21 PM
Intrigued how this went. Didn't listen to one race/watch anything at all. Would check tips for tikay but seems lot to catch up on. Everybody seemed to say on facebook they had the winners etc but I guess that may happen every year. Did the bookies take a beating? Did you guys clean up?

We had two winners at 15/2 and 10/1 (sp 14/1) and many near misses, places at 40/1, 28/1, 25/1 (twice) and many others. We did lose overall on the week though. Full results will go up on the site early next week when we have had achance to catch up. You can usually tell it's been a losing week for us at Cheltenham if lots of short priced favourites win.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Larry David on March 14, 2015, 12:21:48 PM
Intrigued how this went. Didn't listen to one race/watch anything at all. Would check tips for tikay but seems lot to catch up on. Everybody seemed to say on facebook they had the winners etc but I guess that may happen every year. Did the bookies take a beating? Did you guys clean up?

We had two winners at 15/2 and 10/1 (sp 14/1) and many near misses, places at 40/1, 28/1, 25/1 (twice) and many others. We did lose overall on the week though. Full results will go up on the site early next week when we have had achance to catch up. You can usually tell it's been a losing week for us at Cheltenham if lots of short priced favourites win.

If you are picking plenty of big priced horse like the above you will probably have a  good Aintree if the Mullins machine decides to take his army to the Punchestown festival and bypass Aintree.  It was tough going if you weren't a fav backer.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Horneris on April 06, 2015, 01:43:31 PM
I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on April 06, 2015, 02:48:05 PM
I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.

I don't think there are many people who are actually so good at punting that they can command a fee for providing betting info. 

If I were to pay one chap on blonde it would be Hector or Arb.  I think once you start getting x people involved it dilutes the quality of what your selling. 

I think Bobby may have been somewhat on the money and I wish he posted more but it seems commercialism rules.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on April 06, 2015, 07:17:04 PM
I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.

Nigel writing for the Sun and writing for Bettingemporium.com are totally different and completely separate. He is catering to two totally different markets. The Sun articles are nothing to do with BE and I choose not to read, follow or discuss them. The sole purpose of what we do at BE is to educate our members and make money. We are very proud of our results and Nigel has done very well for us. We back all the advised bets on our site ourselves and we are very picky about who we have writing for us. We get many emails on a regular basis from various people who want to work with us or write for us. It is important that we consider all our contributors to be long term winners in what they do for us. We consider Nigel a long term winner.

We don't get Nigel to write abour car mechanics, Russian history or cookery so we don't really care too much how well or how badly he does those things for any other organisations. He is free to write for who he likes. What he writes for us we are very choosy about for all the reasons stated already - I'm not backing anyone unless I think I'm getting a decent return from it for me, Neil and all our followers.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on April 06, 2015, 07:23:54 PM
I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.

I don't think there are many people who are actually so good at punting that they can command a fee for providing betting info. 

If I were to pay one chap on blonde it would be Hector or Arb.  I think once you start getting x people involved it dilutes the quality of what your selling. 

I think Bobby may have been somewhat on the money and I wish he posted more but it seems commercialism rules.


If you are right about one thing it's that making money from sports betting is not something that is easy to do for most people. The percentage of winners is a very small number percentage wise. We have thousands of members who are very happy and making money because of BE. A lot of what we do is free as you well know and some people only take advantage of the free write ups, which is absolutely fine with us. We are proud of our results, everything is published in full and we are fully transparent. Registered users who have followed everything we have done from the start would be winning about £13,000 betting at £10 a point (average bet size around £150).

One thing that I disagree with is that by adding more proven winners it 'dilutes the quality of what we are selling'. We only have people on our site that we are prepared to back with our own cash and who we consider long term winners. If we add another great judge to Bettingemporium that helps us and our members make more money then that adds to, and improves, the quality of what we are selling as far as I am concerned. It certainly improves the bank balance.

For the record we are not stopping anyone posting on Blonde and I don't see why you would object to us running a business, doing work and getting paid for that work.  We have plenty of customers who are happy to pay because they are cleaning up (and because they enjoy reading the analysis we do). We understand that there are others that don't want to pay for whatever reason but they are missing out as far as we are concerned. As I have said we have many thousands of happy members. The snipes and negative comments come from just a few.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Larry David on April 06, 2015, 08:57:41 PM
I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.

I don't think there are many people who are actually so good at punting that they can command a fee for providing betting info. 

If I were to pay one chap on blonde it would be Hector or Arb.  I think once you start getting x people involved it dilutes the quality of what your selling. 

I think Bobby may have been somewhat on the money and I wish he posted more but it seems commercialism rules.

I think the guy was just pointing out the poor record Leeds have at this particular ground,vast majority of gamblers like this kind of info,although I agree these stats shouldn't warrant a bet as they are fairly pointless statistics.  Leeds away form way better than he gives them credit for. Put it down to lazy journalism not checking the facts.

Dilutes the quality of what you are selling?  If the guy has a good reputation for what he does and BE have hired him to do a job,well they must think highly of him.  Not sure how adding any quality (not saying he is quality) dilutes a product.  I wouldn't mind Messi joining United,I doubt his presence would dilute the team.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on July 15, 2015, 10:55:25 PM
This hasn't been bumped in a while.

Neil has put some tips up for the Open for those who haven't backed the whole field yet.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Kmac84 on July 16, 2015, 01:40:33 AM
This hasn't been bumped in a while.

Neil has put some tips up for the Open for those who haven't backed the whole field yet.

Is it any wonder? 

The Tennis was deplorable.

I'd love to crossbook BE golf stuff with Bobby1.   Come back Bobby, dig us out the hole. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2015, 02:31:52 AM
Can't get into the BE website.  Is it down?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on July 16, 2015, 09:16:10 AM
Can't get into the BE website.  Is it down?

I cannot access the site this morning, but it was working fine last night.

I'll drop Joe a note, the Open Golf stuff is Free to View, so can't do any harm to have a butchers.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Longines on July 16, 2015, 10:20:40 AM
http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/bettingemporium.com.html

Bettingemporium.com is DOWN
It is not just you. The server is not responding...



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2015, 10:24:28 AM
Cheers i just fancied a later night read of their open preview and wondered what had happened to the site.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on July 16, 2015, 10:33:56 AM
There are some issues with our virtual servers.

'The majority of the affected servers are now back online. Our engineers are working to bring the remaining servers online as a matter of priority.'

We are sorry for any inconvenience caused by this.


KMAC – Neil and I have chosen to post less or not at all here for various reasons, results is not one of them.

'Deplorable' ? - we lost 46 points on the matches and 48 on the outrights staking 435 points on Wimbledon. Sure we had a losing Wimbledon but it is just one event and it is far from what you describe. Nigel is an excellent tennis judge and a long term winner. Our long term tennis shows a +ROI in excess of +10%. We are proud of our results page.

I'm guessing though by the abuse sent our way on Twitter regarding the tennis that forced us to block you and the general abuse we and others get from you that you are probably suffering from bad bank roll management and it's affecting you mentally. There is some advice in our FAQ section. Although perhaps you just don't get it and what we do really isn't for you.




Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: booder on July 16, 2015, 10:41:29 AM
There are some issues with our virtual servers.

'The majority of the affected servers are now back online. Our engineers are working to bring the remaining servers online as a matter of priority.'

We are sorry for any inconvenience caused by this.


KMAC – Neil and I have chosen to post less or not at all here for various reasons, results is not one of them.

'Deplorable' ? - we lost 46 points on the matches and 48 on the outrights staking 435 points on Wimbledon. Sure we had a losing Wimbledon but it is just one event and it is far from what you describe. Nigel is an excellent tennis judge and a long term winner. Our long term tennis shows a +ROI in excess of +10%. We are proud of our results page.

I'm guessing though by the abuse sent our way on Twitter regarding the tennis that forced us to block you and the general abuse we and others get from you that you are probably suffering from bad bank roll management   being a twat and it's affecting you mentally. There is some advice in our FAQ section. Although perhaps you just don't get it and what we do really isn't for you.




FYP Joe.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: DungBeetle on July 16, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
There are some issues with our virtual servers.

'The majority of the affected servers are now back online. Our engineers are working to bring the remaining servers online as a matter of priority.'

We are sorry for any inconvenience caused by this.


KMAC – Neil and I have chosen to post less or not at all here for various reasons, results is not one of them.

'Deplorable' ? - we lost 46 points on the matches and 48 on the outrights staking 435 points on Wimbledon. Sure we had a losing Wimbledon but it is just one event and it is far from what you describe. Nigel is an excellent tennis judge and a long term winner. Our long term tennis shows a +ROI in excess of +10%. We are proud of our results page.

I'm guessing though by the abuse sent our way on Twitter regarding the tennis that forced us to block you and the general abuse we and others get from you that you are probably suffering from bad bank roll management and it's affecting you mentally. There is some advice in our FAQ section. Although perhaps you just don't get it and what we do really isn't for you.




KMAC CRUSHED :D


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: david3103 on July 16, 2015, 01:07:30 PM
There are some issues with our virtual servers.

'The majority of the affected servers are now back online. Our engineers are working to bring the remaining servers online as a matter of priority.'

We are sorry for any inconvenience caused by this.


KMAC – Neil and I have chosen to post less or not at all here for various reasons, results is not one of them.

'Deplorable' ? - we lost 46 points on the matches and 48 on the outrights staking 435 points on Wimbledon. Sure we had a losing Wimbledon but it is just one event and it is far from what you describe. Nigel is an excellent tennis judge and a long term winner. Our long term tennis shows a +ROI in excess of +10%. We are proud of our results page.

I'm guessing though by the abuse sent our way on Twitter regarding the tennis that forced us to block you and the general abuse we and others get from you that you are probably suffering from bad bank roll management and it's affecting you mentally. There is some advice in our FAQ section. Although perhaps you just don't get it and what we do really isn't for you.




WP Sir


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2015, 01:11:53 PM
Pretty tough for a service like BE to provide a profit on an event when the short priced ante post fav's win in both events.  The top 3 in the betting made the semis in the mens event.  It is just never going to be an event where the service would turn a profit.  Just like if every fav won at Chelt or Ascot i would be pretty surprised if the service provided a profit on that given week.  Obviously long term they just keep grinding out the margin if you suck up the bad weeks.

If punters who pay for the service don't realise this then they are probably not suitable to be paying for the information.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: nirvana on July 16, 2015, 01:19:01 PM
This hasn't been bumped in a while.

Neil has put some tips up for the Open for those who haven't backed the whole field yet.

Is it any wonder? 

The Tennis was deplorable.

I'd love to crossbook BE golf stuff with Bobby1.   Come back Bobby, dig us out the hole. 

Too funny seeing a champagne socialist cry like this


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on December 19, 2016, 08:42:19 AM
Just a quick "well done" to Nigel for his World Darts selections so far - 6 wins from 7 I think. Long way to go yet, but great start, & gives me an interest in the Darts which I'd not otherwise watch, as I find the TV coverage not to my taste.

Well done Tighty, too, Saturday's Road to Riches yielded a nice - if somewhat lucky - winner in the Rugby @ 9/5.

If we don't chat before (though I speak to Ambo regularly on Next Door business) have a great Christmas & a fabulous 2017.



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 01, 2018, 11:08:51 AM
Bettingemporium is 5 Years Old Today!   (1st March is seen as our official launch leading up to 2013 Cheltenham).

Happy birthday to us and especially to all our followers, many who have been with us since we started Bettingemporium back in March 2013!

We have just updated our results page again and guess what? Profits at an all time high (yes again...) If you bet £10 per point on every recommended bet since launch you would be winning +£44,418.20 All bets have an ROI + 4.06%

http://www.bettingemporium.com/pages/view/results-section

A £4000 bank (see FAQ re bank-roll requirements) betting £10 a point on all selections would now be worth £48,418.20 an 1110% increase

Even just following the free tips in our weekly article 'Road to Riches' you would be showing a very tidy profit: So far the free bets in this section (244 so far) are showing a profit of £9,949.90 (betting £10 a point) with a +ROI of 37.14%

The free Premier League computer bets (O 2.5 goals) are showing a profit of £3,329.80 (betting £10 a point) with +ROI of 6.47%. Horse Racing is showing a profit of £10,308.00 and a very decent long term ROI +8.25%

This is all over a very large sample size over a five year period!

Current subs available are Brodders soccer monthly and the Cheltenham Festival - full details on our homepage at www.bettingemporium.com



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2018, 11:11:44 AM

Very well done Joe, & happy birthday B-E.

The free weekly Road to Riches showing a 37% ROI over 244 bets is unbelievable value.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: booder on March 01, 2018, 02:02:28 PM

Very well done Joe, & happy birthday B-E.

 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Chompy on March 01, 2018, 02:43:48 PM
Congrats on five years.

I ran a tipping line for about three years and know how much abuse comes with it.

Five years an achievement for sure.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on March 01, 2018, 02:49:07 PM
Congratulations guys!



Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on March 01, 2018, 02:52:43 PM
Congratulations guys!



Happy birthday

 ;applause;


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: ripple11 on March 01, 2018, 07:12:55 PM
Great work guys...  :birthday:


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: DropTheHammer on March 02, 2018, 06:06:54 PM
Hi Joe. Congrats on running such a successful tipping site, but does that overlap profit figure take into account the cost of all the packages?


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on March 02, 2018, 06:09:51 PM
Congrats fellas.  Would recommend for those with accounts. 


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 02, 2018, 06:35:20 PM
Hi Joe. Congrats on running such a successful tipping site, but does that overlap profit figure take into account the cost of all the packages?

If you subscribe to everything it's about £1000 a year, maybe a little over that now actually. A lot is free, weekly 'Road to Riches', O/U 2.5 Premier League, golf, Oscars and various other stuff from time to time.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: JoeBeevers on March 02, 2018, 06:38:03 PM
Congrats fellas.  Would recommend for those with accounts. 

Many subscribers, particularly Brodders soccer, use the exchanges (mostly Betfair and Matchbook), Mustardbet, Redzone and manage quite well without high street accounts. High street accounts are useful but our shortlist are usually best price.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2018, 12:24:47 PM
At a Cheltenham Preview Dinner on Saturday Matchbook very kindly put up £1000 for some charity bets.

Any returns from the bets will go to breakfastinabag who do great work for the London homeless.

FYI


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on June 19, 2018, 03:23:17 PM

Many congrats to those who subscribe to B-E, & of course to Neil, Joe & Co.

That's a cracking start to Royal Ascot, well done chaps.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on June 19, 2018, 05:46:00 PM
Great start!

Well done all who were one :)


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Doobs on June 19, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
wow, that is sone start.

congrats Neil and Joe.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: tikay on August 06, 2018, 10:31:42 AM

Think this thread deserves a bump after Betting Emporium had a glorious Glorious Goodwood.

Team Channing tipped no less 12 winners during the festival, including 5 at 10/1 or more, 2 of which were 20/1 or better.

They throw a lot of darts, of course, most of which miss, but overall on the Festival it added up to;

ROI - + 66%

Profit at recommended stakes - + 466 points. 


Road to Riches then ended the week with a nice free to view bet which got home at 3/1.

Well done lads, that must have felt great.




Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Tal on August 06, 2018, 10:44:17 AM
They'll be needing new trainers and some deep heat I expect.


Title: Re: Like Sport, Love Winners - Bettingemporium.com
Post by: Marky147 on August 06, 2018, 03:08:28 PM
:D :D



Think this thread deserves a bump after Betting Emporium had a glorious Glorious Goodwood.

Team Channing tipped no less 12 winners during the festival, including 5 at 10/1 or more, 2 of which were 20/1 or better.

They throw a lot of darts, of course, most of which miss, but overall on the Festival it added up to;

ROI - + 66%

Profit at recommended stakes - + 466 points. 


Road to Riches then ended the week with a nice free to view bet which got home at 3/1.

Well done lads, that must have felt great.

Drinks on Neil next weekend ;)

Congrats, great results!

Hope that plenty of the shortsighted whiners toys were proper out, and they weren't on any of them.