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Title: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 03:28:10 PM
This thread is for recording of my racing thoughts.

Bets are a on 5pt scale of 1pt to 5pts.

The record of bets so far is available for all to see online here :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdHE4dnc4MjBYbjlJVERnZDdqd29ERUE#gid=0

Thanks to Mere Novice (vince) for all of his help with the spreadsheet

Sunday 19/05/2013

Like 3 today at Ripon.

3.40

Memory Cloth (nap) 3pts win at 4-1 general

result unplaced at 7-2

Purely a handicapping thing this one. It is very rare that a horse who finishes 7/24 in a big handicap like the spring cup at newbury is racing from 5lbs later after one start since. That start was on firm ground at newmarket which the horse patently hated. The horse is now racing from 90 which is now its lowest mark for a year despite appearing to be in good form.

4.10

Aegeus 2pts win at 9/4 general (5-2 still with spreadex fixed odds)

result unplaced at 9-4

I have this slightly shorter in my tissue. Beaten odds on at lingfield on return but can improve from that. All of the pedigree suggests that the horse should improve with racing. This is a beatable field for something progressive.


4.40

Haajes 2pts win at 4-1 (stan james and hills)

result second at 7-2

A real old veteran sprinter not the type i usually look at but seems in great form at present. Won a seller last time which was the first time it's won on fast ground aged 9 so still has ability, the penultimate run in a much better race was better though i think, this is a poor contest, he should get a lovely trip just off the speed in this. The penultimate run has already worked out well (dorback finished 3rd in a class 4 at ascot next time, 6lengths back to third has run well since, 4th just got touched off in a handicap couple of days ago.)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 19, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
Great to see this back horsey.

Your previous thread showed over a thousand pounds profit in quite a short period, and I followed it daily.

In the modern Internet parlance, "subscribed".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 19, 2013, 03:41:40 PM
I'm on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 19, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Spooky timing horsey, was just thinking this morning that we needed a specialist horseracering thread.

Re: Memory Cloth, 4-1 tight enough now? Was 8-1 with Ladbrokes last night.

One of my list horses runs on Tuesday, Arc Light 4.00 Newcastle. Oi oi!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 19, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
Sub to the scribed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 19, 2013, 04:28:42 PM
booo the wrong progressive one.

Clon Brulee on the bridle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 19, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
Now Richard Whittaker gets one home on the bridle against us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
struggle to get a worse start tbh

memory cloth was very well backed late and just never fired

Aegaeus appeared to have a problem and was soon pulled up (almost)

haajes ran the race expected just beaten by an unexposed one


will update details every sunday evening re profit and loss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 19, 2013, 07:36:55 PM
Really pleased to see this thread back horsey.

I hope it means that things are looking a little better on the home front.

I'll be following with interest and possibly suggesting one or two although I am mainly a jumps man when it comes to having strong opinions.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 07:40:32 PM
Really pleased to see this thread back horsey.

I hope it means that things are looking a little better on the home front.

I'll be following with interest and possibly suggesting one or two although I am mainly a jumps man when it comes to having strong opinions.

GL

thanks kara much needed boost that post

thinks are settled but no better i am looking for part time work at present to tide me over

all the best any opinions appreciated


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on May 19, 2013, 07:52:31 PM
That start was on firm ground at newmarket which the horse patently hated.

Here's a question- how do you tell a horse hates the ground? Can you see it when you watch the race, or do you just base it on them never doing well when it turns up good to soft, or what?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 08:00:42 PM
That start was on firm ground at newmarket which the horse patently hated.

Here's a question- how do you tell a horse hates the ground? Can you see it when you watch the race, or do you just base it on them never doing well when it turns up good to soft, or what?

For me it is generally just based on previous history when running on that ground.

Though in hindsight today maybe memory cloth either jarred itself up at newmarket or for whatever reason took more out of itself in the spring cup.

You do have to be very careful though, especially over recent years with excessive watering of courses by some clerks a good to soft at one course is not the same as a good to soft elsewhere, just to make life a bit harder :)

If the horse has never faced heavy ground for example then i would always look at the stats of the sire for some clues. As long as the sample size was relevant i would take this into some account though of course each horse is an individual and might not fit the trend.

The larger the sample size for that sire and the more positive or negative the a/e return (actual over expected based on market position) the more i would be confident in my thoughts on the horse handling the ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
Spooky timing horsey, was just thinking this morning that we needed a specialist horseracering thread.

Re: Memory Cloth, 4-1 tight enough now? Was 8-1 with Ladbrokes last night.

One of my list horses runs on Tuesday, Arc Light 4.00 Newcastle. Oi oi!

for the purposes of this thread i am only taking the price if at least two bookmakers are offering the odds.

this will make life a bit tougher but i like a challenge

oi oi the arc!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 19, 2013, 08:57:03 PM
Will contribute to this thread too, shame it wasn't open last week, studied hard for all 3 days at York's Dante meet. I tend to only punt big if I've had a lot of time to really study a card hard, mainly when I go to the races (York, Ripon, Wetherby, Thirsk, sometimes Donny/Ponte) or big race days.

Got a lot of horses in my "nag me alerts" for the summer already, optimistic.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 19, 2013, 10:23:51 PM

Good luck with the thread, pleased to see it back.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 20, 2013, 08:00:49 AM
horsey's previous thread is here.....

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=59189.0

Sadly, due to some quite dreadful real life issues he had to quit the thread & move home to look after his Mum, who became very ill.

He has been incredibly helpful & supportive to me, personally, & so I hope this thread, with horsey & a few other experts chipping in, will be a success. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 20, 2013, 01:00:45 PM
thanks tikay

nothing today southwell looks good but very competitive

tommorow looks very promising


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on May 20, 2013, 11:26:17 PM
Their was an  absoulte filth ew Race tonight at Leicster.
1/9 fav, 10/1 2nd fav
2nd fav was 4/5 for a place (1st 2) and won the Race in a Photo.
Noseda is 0/15 with Horses returning from 100+ Days break


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 21, 2013, 12:29:14 AM
Knowing nothing about horses but being bored on betfair, I saw that the 1/10 favourite had not raced for a year so I laid £10 :D.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Biddy 62 on May 21, 2013, 08:20:11 AM
Good luck Horsie.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 21, 2013, 09:37:07 AM

Bookies got hammered on Hughes double last night Midnite Angel and Thunder Strike

Returned 2.41 but Hughes told Mat Chapman they would be bitterly disappointed if they got turned over.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 11:28:34 AM
Good luck Horsie.
ty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 11:50:12 AM
Tuesday 21st May

Like two so far today

5.00 Newcastle

ALMOST GEMINI 1PT WIN 4/1 (general) (non runner)

MASON HINDMARSH 2PTS WIN 16-1 (coral or sportingbet)

result non runner and unplaced at 10-1

This is a poor race and although there is no doubt Mason was lucky to win last time (clear leader dropped hands) it still showed the horse was coming into form and has been treated by the handicapper as finishing 3rd (raised a 1lb). Usually improves with racing so should be another good performance from this mark.

Has a low draw and prominent running style at a speed-favoring track as well.

It looks like an over-reaction to it being a lucky winner last time, and therefore it was somehow a 'fluke'.  If it'd finished 2nd beaten 2 lengths it'd be 8/1 here and in my tissue is around 10-1.

Almost Gemini i do not particularly like as an animal so far but was clear fav in my tissue (about 5-2) is unexposed after two narrow wins on the all weather when well backed both times.

Looks very quirky but crucially did battle on well last time in the end. It has a good running style for this race and a good draw.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 21, 2013, 12:14:39 PM

Fingers crossed horsey. I'm on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 12:19:16 PM
also like

LIL SOPHELLA 3.30 newcastle 20-1 2pts win bet365 skybet and one other

result dead heat 3rd 25-1

A few positives here,

Showed first sign of ability last time in a seller. The formbook states will need to show improvement from that into a handicap. I could not disagree more this is a glorified seller with a bunch of market leaders out of form or running after wins in even worse contests last time.

Ran last time as if this trip will be ideal (tired late on after travelling fine) and also its action suggests the soft ground today will be a help (backed up by the pedigree of indian haven)

Ok the trainer hardly knocks them in for fun but is in some kind of form of late and the horse has a good draw. At 20-1 enough positives in a shocking race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redsimon on May 21, 2013, 03:07:35 PM
on both (almost gemini nr now I see)...good luck us :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 21, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
also like

LIL SOPHELLA 3.30 newcastle 20-1 2pts win bet365 skybet and one other

A few positives here,

Showed first sign of ability last time in a seller. The formbook states will need to show improvement from that into a handicap. I could not disagree more this is a glorified seller with a bunch of market leaders out of form or running after wins in even worse contests last time.

Ran last time as if this trip will be ideal (tired late on after travelling fine) and also its action suggests the soft ground today will be a help (backed up by the pedigree of indian haven)

Ok the trainer hardly knocks them in for fun but is in some kind of form of late and the horse has a good draw. At 20-1 enough positives in a shocking race.

That was a nice touch for us e/w backers

Thanks keep em coming


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 21, 2013, 04:13:04 PM
Good work spotting that trainer Sherlock! N1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 04:49:31 PM
Spooky timing horsey, was just thinking this morning that we needed a specialist horseracering thread.

Re: Memory Cloth, 4-1 tight enough now? Was 8-1 with Ladbrokes last night.

One of my list horses runs on Tuesday, Arc Light 4.00 Newcastle. Oi oi!

lovely stuff chompy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 21, 2013, 05:21:25 PM
Spooky timing horsey, was just thinking this morning that we needed a specialist horseracering thread.

Re: Memory Cloth, 4-1 tight enough now? Was 8-1 with Ladbrokes last night.

One of my list horses runs on Tuesday, Arc Light 4.00 Newcastle. Oi oi!

lovely stuff chompy


Forgot that one fmi

WD


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
a non runner a dead heat for third and a poor run today



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 01:39:30 PM
Tuesday 22nd May

3.00 Lingfield 2pts win HURAKAN 11/4 general

The favourite is very vulnerable here i think. Its form on turf is pretty awful as is indicative with its pedigree which suggests an all weather horse or soft ground on the turf. I just cant see it liking a firmish surface at lingfield.

Hurakan is by far the most solid of its rivals, down in grade conditions fine and usually starts to peak on 3rd comeback run onwards (which is today)

Double Cee is way out of form, Steely is capable but not running well and Foxhaven is a good old stick but 70 on the turf is a tough mark.


3.30 Lingfield BRAMSHILL LASS 6/1 general 1pt win

not the most genuine of animals but a few positives today.

gets a 3lb pull for being narrowly beaten by the likely favourite kayef at goodwood last time. That is the danger but this is nearly double the price. The fact the selection seems better in blinkers and they are back on today is another small positive.


4.20 Southwell Caledonia Prince 10/1 general 1pt win

a cracking race with a field of proven southwell lovers. Surprised this horse is 10-1 as simple as that is about 7-1 in my tissue and has a better chance than 10-1 in this.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 01:52:28 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MajorMajor on May 22, 2013, 02:05:24 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 02:07:46 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

I think in general it is one of those things in racing that when somebody with one ride wins it is highlighted and when they do not it is not mentioned.

Much like the "outsider of 3 always wins" that berks like Thommo chuckle when the outsider does win failing to mention or realise that backing the outsider of 3 blind will mean you do your money more than pretty much any other strategy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
Thanks, chaps.

In unrelated news...would anyone like to buy a lucky 15?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 02:24:42 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

I think in general it is one of those things in racing that when somebody with one ride wins it is highlighted and when they do not it is not mentioned.

Much like the "outsider of 3 always wins" that berks like Thommo chuckle when the outsider does win failing to mention or realise that backing the outsider of 3 blind will mean you do your money more than pretty much any other strategy.
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There was an article in the Racing Post a few months back on the outsider of three and the figures suggested you would make a profit , not much , but a profit .

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/It's+official%3A+you+can+make+money+backing+the+outsider+of+three%3B...-a0319173442


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 02:32:08 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

I think in general it is one of those things in racing that when somebody with one ride wins it is highlighted and when they do not it is not mentioned.

Much like the "outsider of 3 always wins" that berks like Thommo chuckle when the outsider does win failing to mention or realise that backing the outsider of 3 blind will mean you do your money more than pretty much any other strategy.
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There was an article in the Racing Post a few months back on the outsider of three and the figures suggested you would make a profit , not much , but a profit .

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/It's+official%3A+you+can+make+money+backing+the+outsider+of+three%3B...-a0319173442

nice link thanks

he seems a bit vague though in that saying his results only include the times there is a "clear outsider"

will check my stats later and see what i get as that just does not seem correct to me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 22, 2013, 02:39:37 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

I think in general it is one of those things in racing that when somebody with one ride wins it is highlighted and when they do not it is not mentioned.

Much like the "outsider of 3 always wins" that berks like Thommo chuckle when the outsider does win failing to mention or realise that backing the outsider of 3 blind will mean you do your money more than pretty much any other strategy.
[/b]

There was an article in the Racing Post a few months back on the outsider of three and the figures suggested you would make a profit , not much , but a profit .

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/It's+official%3A+you+can+make+money+backing+the+outsider+of+three%3B...-a0319173442

Ignore that Jim, it was probably wroted by Chompy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 02:41:25 PM
Yeah I was surprised by it as well.

Presume he means he didnt include races where one was a clear fav and the other

two were joint second favs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 22, 2013, 02:41:53 PM
Not me, I much prefer the outsider of four, especially when it's ridden by the pin-up girl. Ho ho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 02:53:19 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

right tal rather than me guessing here are some stats on the above

best i can do is days when he has one ride, this may mean on days where he's had two they've been at different meetings but won't be many cases of this.  these are also going to be last 5 years for both, so as to avoid times when they weren't established/apprentices:

scudamore: 39/308, -122 to SP
hutchinson: 27/286, -82 to SP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 03:31:52 PM
well done tal!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 22, 2013, 03:32:59 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

right tal rather than me guessing here are some stats on the above

best i can do is days when he has one ride, this may mean on days where he's had two they've been at different meetings but won't be many cases of this.  these are also going to be last 5 years for both, so as to avoid times when they weren't established/apprentices:

scudamore: 39/308, -122 to SP
hutchinson: 27/286, -82 to SP

I see no mitigating circs for Mr Scudamore, but as Chairman of the Wayneo fan club, during this time he has been second string for Alan King for the majority of the time, so his figures will be schewed by having to travel all over the place for singles rides that probably have next to no chance.
If he gets the jig at Kings as stable jock, I expect these figures would look a lot different in the next 5 years.

Would you agree Horsey?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 03:35:42 PM
well done tal!

Bad logic. Great result.

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 03:37:28 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

right tal rather than me guessing here are some stats on the above

best i can do is days when he has one ride, this may mean on days where he's had two they've been at different meetings but won't be many cases of this.  these are also going to be last 5 years for both, so as to avoid times when they weren't established/apprentices:

scudamore: 39/308, -122 to SP
hutchinson: 27/286, -82 to SP

I see no mitigating circs for Mr Scudamore, but as Chairman of the Wayneo fan club, during this time he has been second string for Alan King for the majority of the time, so his figures will be schewed by having to travel all over the place for singles rides that probably have next to no chance.
If he gets the jig at Kings as stable jock, I expect these figures would look a lot different in the next 5 years.

Would you agree Horsey?

no idea tbh

i am a massive fan of hutchinson as a jockey

the stats are just for when the jockey has one ride at a meeting i would doubt there would be any jockeys who showed a profit under that criteria over a decent sample size


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 03:43:28 PM
I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 03:44:13 PM
I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.

not mine mate courtesy of proform that one


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 03:49:22 PM
I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.

not mine mate courtesy of proform that one

Thought you were like Bearders for a moment, then; an encyclopaedic resource of all horse racing since hooves first clip-clopped at your fingertips.

I was going to ask you what ROI you get from jockeys wearing mainly orange in low numbers at York on odd-numbered days. Don't think I'll bother now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 22, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
Bramshill Lass should have won, not like Crowley to be caught sleeping.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 04:48:44 PM
first two well backed and bramshill could/should have won

no chance for Caledonia


in shock news betting eddie looks in big trouble. If you have time this report is well worth a read.

http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Result-of-a-Disciplinary-Panel-hearing-Neil-Clement-Eddie-Ahern-Martin-Raymond-and-Paul-Hill-3d8.aspx


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
a couple in the 5.00 lingfield

no idea why kinglami is 5/2 here has a chance but that is to short.

2pts win 9/2 poetic lord c + d ideal no chance last time over to far a trip on the turf

1pt win 14/1  avertis profilic winner to short last time missed break and never got to the front which it needs to

both bog

 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 05:35:47 PM
first two well backed and bramshill could/should have won

no chance for Caledonia


in shock news betting eddie looks in big trouble. If you have time this report is well worth a read.

http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Result-of-a-Disciplinary-Panel-hearing-Neil-Clement-Eddie-Ahern-Martin-Raymond-and-Paul-Hill-3d8.aspx

Im halfway through it and it staggers me that people can be so inept at being a little deceptive.

Thanks for the link ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 06:03:33 PM
I think that this goes on a lot more than people think.

Only the idiots get caught but a professional outfit can get away with laying horses to lose
quite easily.

The idea that you can make money by laying a horse/athlete/sportsman to lose does mean
 the integrety of a lot of sports is undermind by those willing to make serious money cheating.

It's far easier to make money laying something to lose than backing something to win.

Betfair is here to stay so I don't see the situation improving over the years.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 06:48:36 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Brilliant ..... rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 22, 2013, 06:50:57 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 22, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.

Agree in the main but the Cheltenham Festival 2013 one is


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 22, 2013, 06:54:15 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.

Agree in the main but the Cheltenham Festival 2013 one is

Ok, you've suckered me in, but unless I laugh at least 3 times, that avatar of yours will be you with me holding the gun.

You've been warned.

Can't find it. Link?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 22, 2013, 06:54:42 PM
With Camel here, woeful effort this one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 06:56:50 PM
yes it is pretty poor but a rush job

the cheltenham 2013 one is funny even if you dont like them


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 06:57:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-Zm1me1Es


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 07:01:22 PM
I must be easily pleased. Did laugh at "stop crying Hayley , arselicking wont

get you Ahern's rides "

Lets look at the Cheltenham one then....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 22, 2013, 07:06:22 PM
Cheltenham one is the best, but still wouldn't call it funny.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
it is in time, the words kind of match up with the speech and it is in parts funny

compared to the rest its genius


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 22, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
It was funnier the day after the festival, the bit about the foxhunters and in time unlike so many others


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 22, 2013, 07:26:27 PM
It was funnier the day after the festival, the bit about the foxhunters and in time unlike so many others

The woman reassuring the crying woman that Tidal Bay had franked the form was the best moment.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
Thursday 23/05/2013

2pts win PORCINI 7/1 (3 firms) 7.45 Salisbury

A tight betting race but this horse is unexposed over this trip on the turf. Hopefully it can show its improved all weather form on the turf tonight. I think it can win or at least go close from this mark.

The ian williams horse is the danger but the very long break is a question mark and i cant see any value in it at current prices. The rest look poorly handicapped or out of form.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 01:32:58 PM
4.20 Goodwood

1pt win each

ASTROMAGICK 14/1 GENERAL

ROCKFELLA 16/1 (3 FIRMS)

back tonight


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 23, 2013, 02:49:00 PM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 02:59:50 PM
Seaside plunge, near to home, and celebrate with an ice cream and a go in the arcade eh Chompy. Look forward to that.

Was quite keen on Cosimo de Medici, but Horsey got two to beat it, so not so happy now :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 04:42:31 PM
Hmmm. I think he might just have won had he not given away 15 lengths at the start. Sigh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 05:40:14 PM
yes good shout adz

unfourtantley the utter burke coc of the course could not resist watering the track every day and it is now slippy as anything

being a coc (how apt) is one of a few jobs were no matter how bad you are you keep your job


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 05:42:59 PM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!

spice fair still looks a lb or two to high to me (bit like myself)

goooooooooooo the list horse


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 05:44:08 PM
Aye

Saw an interview with Seamus Buckley as he went round the other day. Hardly an inspiring individual.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 05:45:56 PM
a case of who you are or were you went to school rather than having an aptitude for the job

no matter what the ground he will without fail always tell ruk it is "good"



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 08:28:13 PM
another poor day

goodwood one ran well enough to get 3rd one slipped early on

Thought Porcini ran well there tbh carson tracked hughes throughout but that one folded quicker than it looked and just did not have the pace at the finish was staying on well again after looking likely to finish last 2 out


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 08:34:40 PM
You're in the ballpark. Just a matter of time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Young_gun on May 23, 2013, 08:52:41 PM
Im going goodwood on Saturday, Stagdoaments do you have any tips? I suck at horse racing bets so any help would be good ty :)

Ran good in past when went, but no method either name or jockey/trainer combo. Be nice to sweat a long shot if you have any


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 08:59:57 PM
I see the amusingly named Getaway Car has probably just won Gerard Butler one of his last chances before I'm sure he gets banned.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Im going goodwood on Saturday, Stagdoaments do you have any tips? I suck at horse racing bets so any help would be good ty :)

Ran good in past when went, but no method either name or jockey/trainer combo. Be nice to sweat a long shot if you have any
i will have a look friday night and post something then

i specialize in long priced losers

have a good day lovely track to visit just aslong as one of the blazer brigade dont grab hold of you


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 23, 2013, 09:37:34 PM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!

abit of rain forcast tomorrow, not sure how much it will affect the ground, but if it goes good to soft, or soft will it still suit?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Young_gun on May 23, 2013, 09:53:10 PM
Im going goodwood on Saturday, Stagdoaments do you have any tips? I suck at horse racing bets so any help would be good ty :)

Ran good in past when went, but no method either name or jockey/trainer combo. Be nice to sweat a long shot if you have any
i will have a look friday night and post something then

i specialize in long priced losers

have a good day lovely track to visit just aslong as one of the blazer brigade dont grab hold of you


Thank you i shall check in on phone in morn :) dont get that last part lol the blazer brigade?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 10:08:01 PM
the old boys in there blazers that guard the entrance with there life

have a good time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 23, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!

abit of rain forcast tomorrow, not sure how much it will affect the ground, but if it goes good to soft, or soft will it still suit?

Quite a bit of rain forecast, yuh. I don't like betting at Yarmouth at the best of times, let alone when it's soft.

Her half-brother Milton's Keen was fine on soft ground and Cadeaux Genereux's are ok on it too, even though he never ran on it himself. Good to soft wouldn't put me off at all.

If there's a lot of rain it will be oi oi for Olney Lass, Masquerading and One Kool Dude.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 24, 2013, 08:30:55 AM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!

abit of rain forcast tomorrow, not sure how much it will affect the ground, but if it goes good to soft, or soft will it still suit?

Quite a bit of rain forecast, yuh. I don't like betting at Yarmouth at the best of times, let alone when it's soft.

Her half-brother Milton's Keen was fine on soft ground and Cadeaux Genereux's are ok on it too, even though he never ran on it himself. Good to soft wouldn't put me off at all.

If there's a lot of rain it will be oi oi for Olney Lass, Masquerading and One Kool Dude.

Toooooooo late for me now, piled in last night at 4/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 11:20:31 AM
Managed to get 9/2 and did it ew for the dead eight, only to find now 7.

Same applied to one I fancied Tariq Too. Backed with 8, now 7........sigh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 12:42:21 PM
I see dear old Violet is punting Brown Pete vs Chompy.

She knows her onions(for a bird, of c)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 24, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
FRIDAY 24TH MAY

just one bet today

PLATINUM 7.45 MUSS 10-1 1pt win (12-1 with skybet if you can but 10-1 recorded)

I am not a fan of the market leaders here. Northside Prince does not appear to do a lot wrong in its races but has not won since i was a boy, Rocktherunway grabbed the rail at donny and made all i am slightly wary in writing that of as dods seems a different trainer this season in that he is following up wins with exposed horses. Knightly Escapade may win a race for ellison but its attitude is not great under any pressure.

Hopefully it'll improve for firm ground first time, it's got a decent action and good ground breeding, might be able to skip clear off a low weight.  it';s got enough back class and hurdles runs suggest it still has enough ability to win a race on the level.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 02:06:38 PM
Done my conkers on Knightly Escapade a few times last year, so will be funking against him. He did show a bit more resolution last time after getting checked. Hoping Ellison can wait a race, cos Kirby doing good things since his move. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on May 24, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
think gary Moore's has a good chance in next at goodwood, Shamahan, 4/4 in a maiden losing 10l to fireship and tartiflette on unsuitable ground is decent form in this, decent comeback run and looks a likely sort to improve off just 77, had small e/w bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on May 24, 2013, 02:54:16 PM
meh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: vegaslover on May 24, 2013, 04:05:56 PM
Managed to get 9/2 and did it ew for the dead eight, only to find now 7.

Same applied to one I fancied Tariq Too. Backed with 8, now 7........sigh

I often use betty place market in such instances


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 04:14:31 PM
Chris Wall not had a winner before today. Gets off the mark with a 'trick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 06:11:49 PM
Managed to get 9/2 and did it ew for the dead eight, only to find now 7.

Same applied to one I fancied Tariq Too. Backed with 8, now 7........sigh


If my horses weren't losing ten lengths at the start each time, I might have a chance....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 24, 2013, 06:56:17 PM
early one for

SATURDAY 25TH MAY

1PT WIN BOGART 25/1 ladbrokes/hills 2.55 york

good track form, good draw races up with pace should get excellent route into race drawn next to confirmed pace setter judge n jury



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
N1.

First time in a handicap, back at best dist. Mahoosive price. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 24, 2013, 08:01:04 PM
big support for platinum, horsey.  Back at 17 on betfair 30 min ago, currently 10.5 just before the off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 08:04:46 PM
Bang. There you go Horsey. Matter of time.

N1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 24, 2013, 08:05:25 PM
Booom! very nice mate. thanks again, i love your work!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 24, 2013, 08:09:18 PM

Yes!

Well done horsey, great stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maccol on May 24, 2013, 08:19:18 PM
Thanks Horsey.   :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 24, 2013, 08:26:09 PM
thank you all

quite a decent performance that kirby is really proving a bit more than a short term wonder as a trainer




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 24, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
young gun re goodwood

looks a very difficult card to me

4.40 the old boy docofthebay is possibly worth an interest. handicap mark fine course form fine draw very good ground being soft not ideal but id rather have a horse who has ran well here before which he is

will he fancy it? not a clue but this might spark him up and if he does fancy it he should go close at around 20-1?

have a good day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Junior Senior on May 24, 2013, 08:42:52 PM
Thanks Horsey.   :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 11:26:55 AM
Very interested in what Mr O'Meara is up to today.

He has put Doc Hay in the Temple Stakes. He was well beaten by Sole Power et al in the Palace House last time. He was however hampered at the start and then had no cover, but ran on steadily to his credit. He was however behind stable mate Elusivity who finished a noteworthy 6th on his first start for stable.

Now today we find Doc Hay in the Group race and Elusivity is back into handicap company(sadly vs Bogart, who he beat comfortably at Newmarket. Gives 4lb for 9 lengths). Seems to me Mr O'Meara has one of these in the wrong race. I fancy with a bit of money for Elusivity, a saver is in order?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redsimon on May 25, 2013, 12:39:44 PM
Thanks Horsey.   :)up

had it ew but thanks :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 25, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
Nice one horsey, great shout!

Aftertiming obv, but it's the first one in thread I haven't backed :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 25, 2013, 12:49:30 PM
Nice one horsey, great shout!

Aftertiming obv, but it's the first one in thread I haven't backed :D

and me :)

bit behind today might be some more later might not


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 25, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
Nice one horsey, great shout!

Aftertiming obv, but it's the first one in thread I haven't backed :D

Ha, you & me too. I backed all the others & missed that bugger. But no matter, I'm just pleased he has got back on the winning trail.

Because he only backs long-shots, you just have to be patient & accept the losing runs. The occasional 10/1 shot pays for a good few losers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 25, 2013, 02:06:11 PM
sort of day were you could do your brains with views in lots of races

3 bets for me today

14:30 CHESTER MODERNISM   20/1    general 1pt win
This is a weird handicap, if you had not told me the distance i would have guessed this is a 7 furlong or mile affair with at least half of the field not proven over this trip.

The bet does not look to be in form, however watching the last run again here it patently hated the swampy ground fallon took the horse wide throughout and the horse was quite harshly knocked a couple out whilst still battling away.

With so many having stamina doubts at 20-1 a small bet is in order.
15:05 GOODWOOD COUSIN KHEE    5/1   1pt win general

Competitive race but dont think many if any of these are ahead of the handicapper, this horse surely is a raise of 2lbs for a fairly easy win last time is rare and i hope it can take advantage is this.

14:20 YORK ADDRESS UNKNOWN    7/2   2pts win general (hills just gone 4-1)

Improved for the trainer switch last time, i dont really like the favourite despite the form of the stable (its uk form last year is nothing special) and address is more solid to me. I also have a slight doubt the favourite will stay.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 25, 2013, 02:16:13 PM
Nice one horsey, great shout!

Aftertiming obv, but it's the first one in thread I haven't backed :D

Ha, you & me too. I backed all the others & missed that bugger. But no matter, I'm just pleased he has got back on the winning trail.

Because he only backs long-shots, you just have to be patient & accept the losing runs. The occasional 10/1 shot pays for a good few losers.

Yep, only need one to pop up and you're freerolling.

No pressure today horsey, Chester Modernism to hose up and we're all gravy  :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 02:28:53 PM
Oh dear David Bergin


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 25, 2013, 02:33:08 PM
Roffle! They never learn.

Machin's puns are getting beyond tiresome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 25, 2013, 03:26:34 PM
Here's one...imo J K Fanning is the best front-running jockey we've ever seen in this country.

Obv names like Cauthen are gonna get thrown around but I'd take Fanning any day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 03:44:32 PM
LOL. I wish someone would tell him that when I back him.

Total Jonah for me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 03:48:14 PM
Sole Power my nap today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 25, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
Here's one...imo J K Fanning is the best front-running jockey we've ever seen in this country.

Obv names like Cauthen are gonna get thrown around but I'd take Fanning any day.

hmmm is there any jockey that gets more practice?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 04:01:59 PM
Sole Power my nap today.

5/4 is stingy. Must have taken a lot of money.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 04:11:47 PM
Lovely to see the Native come back ;bigadz;, but think Swiss Spirit will be the horse that gets the money rest of the season. Lost loads at start.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 04:12:41 PM
Lovely to see the Native come back ;bigadz;, but think Swiss Spirit will be the horse that gets the money rest of the season. Lost loads at start.

Standard ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
Whats standard?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 04:19:08 PM
Whats standard?

 ;bigadz;

Especially I posted "sole power is my nap today" lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
I could have said the second I saw it was your nap, I laid it for everything in betfair.......but I didn't :kiss:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 04:25:31 PM
I could have said the second I saw it was your nap, I laid it for everything in betfair.......but I didn't :kiss:

Bless...

Somehow managed to stay ahead today. Might need some tips from you on the chariot racing in late June :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 25, 2013, 06:32:37 PM
poor day

no excuses the koooookash thing received a wide all the way ride so i will be keeping it in mind despite finishing last today


Sunday 25th May

Hanky Panky 3.55 curragh (1000 guineas) 20-1 general 1pt win

Rare i have a bet in a classic but i like this filly.

Seemed to not improve but show a much better attitude last time in the hood and with slightly better ground. Having watched its first few starts she hated the heavy ground and was not going through it at all. Tommorow should be ideal on that score she has a nice us pedigree and it all screams good or even firm ground. The ground will be nearer firm tommorow. The booking of Ryan Moore is of some interest as is the fact ladbrokes have been constantly ducking her the last few days (14-1 there)

Nothing stands out in this to me and i am hoping some of the fillies with better form react badly to the firmer ground they have not faced.

A full review tommorow evening of the first week


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Junior Senior on May 25, 2013, 09:35:25 PM
Best price 14/1 now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Young_gun on May 26, 2013, 10:27:57 AM
Hey Horsey, Thanks for the tip was a close one came 2nd.

Overall i ended up £100 as i won 3/7 races, mainly luck no skill but hey ho cant complain. Great day out, nice place and plenty of talent about  ;yippee;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 26, 2013, 01:32:09 PM
Hey Horsey, Thanks for the tip was a close one came 2nd.

Overall i ended up £100 as i won 3/7 races, mainly luck no skill but hey ho cant complain. Great day out, nice place and plenty of talent about  ;yippee;

well done mate seemed plenty of late money for the old rogue

glad you had a good day mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 26, 2013, 02:58:58 PM
additional bet for today

was not sure the ground would be soft in france today but it looks like it is and that is good news

les beaufs 3.10 longchamp 4-1 (3 firms) 2pts win

this horse is a different beast on soft ground should be able to grind these into submission.

On this ground is a 5/2 shot for me




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 26, 2013, 03:18:22 PM
Fingers crossed you can end the week with another winner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ForthThistle on May 26, 2013, 03:23:43 PM
On.

GL Horsey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 26, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
3.35 Leicester. Reset City

Just been moved to Johnston. Ran 5 days ago and came second. Roger wouldn't let any of his horses run again that soon unless the Trainer had given him more than just a bit of encouragement to do so. Its a maiden after 16 goes, but has hit the woodwork often enough to think its genuine, but based on this I think a decent ew bet is the sensible option if you play.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 26, 2013, 09:58:16 PM
I remember youuuuuuuu... On obv :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 26, 2013, 10:25:26 PM
will update soon apologies not today

working on a spreadsheet which will be view able to all make life easier


(thanks to vince aka merenovice for his kind help with this)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 27, 2013, 03:34:28 AM
I see Noel Chance has given up the ghost at last and packed it in.

I would love to know what this guy did to upset the establishment. Won two Gold Cup and a Tingle Creek, yet struggled for owners for years. I have spoken to him a couple of time over the years. Nothing in depth, but always seemed a really nice fella, and approachable. He can obviously train too.

Sad when you see some people have fortunes thrown at them and they do nothing significant, and here is a real horseman, unable to get his rewards.

Sad day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 27, 2013, 04:25:31 AM
Ruby left Nicholls.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 27, 2013, 12:53:35 PM
Monday 27th May

4 bets

2.50 Redcar 1pt win Halfwaytocootehill 13-2 (2 firms)

a lovely bank holiday maiden handicap, i do not like the bell horse which looks like being favourite looks devoid of a trip to me. The selection ran well last time retains the tongue tie and has just as good as form with potentially more to come.

5.05 Redcar 1pt win Summerlea 16-1 general (18-1 with sportingbet if you can)

The market leaders are the usually suspects for the class 6 northern handicaps. Another patrick holmes trained animal (gulp) but they are still running above market expectation. Ran well under a very inexperienced rider last time after a long break on that cant beat the second favourite here but the jockey change bridges that gap a bit more for me. On back form is well handicapped to go close and this is by far the weaker division of this.

5.00 Windsor 1pt win Al Emirati 14-1 general (again sbet 16-1 if you can)

This is purely a stats bet, the sire is good on turf and awful on the all weather. That goes a fair way to explaining the run on first start for Botti last time, take that away and i feel you can then the horse would be around 8/10-1. Tough little race but overpriced if the last run was as i hope it was.


5.30 Windsor 2pts win Break Rank 13-2 (two firms)

Circled the whole field last time on british debut and was drawn 13 at chester. Covered a lot more ground than most that day and tired late after the massive middle effort. I am surprised and happy dropped a 1lb for that run which is very fair. Has potential to be better handicapped than this, a few dangers but i dont feel they have a few lbs in hand like this one could.

good luck today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 27, 2013, 01:09:46 PM
first post updated with link to spreadsheet to track everything

big thanks to vince aka mere novice for his help, patience and basically doing it all for me :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MereNovice on May 27, 2013, 01:44:25 PM
first post updated with link to spreadsheet to track everything

big thanks to vince aka mere novice for his help, patience and basically doing it all for me :)

You're very welcome.
Good luck with the thread.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 27, 2013, 04:00:17 PM
3.35 Leicester. Reset City

Just been moved to Johnston. Ran 5 days ago and came second. Roger wouldn't let any of his horses run again that soon unless the Trainer had given him more than just a bit of encouragement to do so. Its a maiden after 16 goes, but has hit the woodwork often enough to think its genuine, but based on this I think a decent ew bet is the sensible option if you play.

shocking ride from norton - no idea why johnston uses him - horse isnt a front runner but he tries to get to the front but can't get there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 27, 2013, 04:06:24 PM
Yes, not had call yet, but stuck in no mans land like that, rarely does the job. Stayed on again once swallowed by pack, which is most annoying.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 27, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
as spreadsheet shows hardly flying along at present

the % price column is the difference between price taken and sp

from 23 bets 5 have returned the same price 3 have drifted and 15 have shortened (some quite a bit)

i have been happy with most of the bets made so far


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 28, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
3.10 Redcar Hussar Ballad 1pt win 14-1 general

7.10 Yarmouth Toga Tiger 2pts win 11-1 general




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 28, 2013, 07:16:14 PM
toga tiger a non runner (ground even though its won3  times on it!)

subbed in nimiety for 1pt win at 7-1 (2 firms) in same race

can improve more possibly was not fit last time dam liked fast ground



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 28, 2013, 08:43:16 PM
8.40 Yarmouth

1pt win Autumnus 8/1 general

1pt win Global Recovery 20/1 general

both qualify for my system in class 6 races of having never run in the bottom grade before



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 29, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
Nottingham 5.15 Bold Duke 2pts win 7/2 general (4-1 about)

down in class been running fine this season likes the track the more rain the better and appears to be a lot think it can win this comfortably.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on May 29, 2013, 04:49:35 PM
Nottingham 5.15 Bold Duke 2pts win 7/2 general (4-1 about)

down in class been running fine this season likes the track the more rain the better and appears to be a lot think it can win this comfortably.



Just had a quick look at race - like you're thinking and on, 4/1 with Sid James.  Going def changing hence we back Moonstone earlier when no plans to.  Gl us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on May 29, 2013, 05:37:30 PM
Nottingham 5.15 Bold Duke 2pts win 7/2 general (4-1 about)

down in class been running fine this season likes the track the more rain the better and appears to be a lot think it can win this comfortably.



Just had a quick look at race - like you're thinking and on, 4/1 with Sid James.  Going def changing hence we back Moonstone earlier when no plans to.  Gl us

ul, ran well and close finish


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 29, 2013, 08:05:24 PM
two more tonight

7.55 Kempton English summer 1pt win 7-1

8.55 Kempton Gladstone 1pt win 9-2



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 29, 2013, 08:47:15 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.

I known a few leave them later.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 29, 2013, 08:55:20 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.

I known a few leave them later.

(http://www.personal.psu.edu/swf5158/blogs/aksm/Applause.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 08:57:09 PM
KarabinerSocksOneOutOfThePark.gif


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 09:09:54 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.

I known a few leave them later.


My Dad has a struggle letting the same joke go too.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 29, 2013, 09:15:47 PM
That Gladstone looks like a right rogue.

I've not set eyes upon BigAdz yet ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 09:20:43 PM
That Gladstone looks like a right rogue.

I've not set eyes upon BigAdz yet ;)

Need a change of luck soon.

I'm sure I will be able to tell you when it happens...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 09:22:08 PM
That Gladstone looks like a right rogue.

I've not set eyes upon BigAdz yet ;)

Need a change of luck soon.

I'm sure I will be able to tell you when immediately after it happens...

FYP

 ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 09:23:47 PM
errr, that WAS the joke Tal....note to self, put a smiley face or lol after so Tal understands ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 09:33:28 PM
errr, that WAS the joke Tal....note to self, put a smiley face or lol after so Tal understands ;)

Forever indebted.

Slow and loud, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MereNovice on May 29, 2013, 10:02:45 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.

I known a few leave them later.


My Dad has a struggle letting the same joke go too.....

Is it a genetic condition?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 10:08:00 PM
Ah, Mr Mere pops up to chuck in another dig.

Welcome Sir


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 29, 2013, 10:10:04 PM
Blimey, you boys are on form tonight, you are cracking me up here. Pack it in, I've had a shocker of a day, hospital passes galore, and I planned to be proper miserable tonight.

Sorry I missed all the bets today, been one of them days. Woud we have won 'owt?

Will catch up with everything in the morning.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 10:11:53 PM
Please Mr Tikay.

The usual bullies are out again, having a go, and all I was trying to do was help.

Make them go away


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 29, 2013, 10:24:03 PM
Please Mr Tikay.

The usual bullies are out again, having a go, and all I was trying to do was help.

Make them go away

Can't help, just realised, I am on the wrong bloody thread. Got no authorita here, me.

Carry on, ignore me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 29, 2013, 11:21:15 PM
hahahah brilliant Ralph


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 11:24:14 PM
Give Tikay a nudge. Think he's fallen asleep ITT...

 ;sleep;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 09:27:03 AM
Have been sent this blog from a friend whenever IM has a runner. The blogger, Terry Norman, is race planner for the stable Info has been pretty good, and he seems v confident. FYI

Wednesday, 29 May 2013
Shamaal Nibras at Sandown .........................................................
Shamaal Nibras - Sandown, Thursday

Normally when I look at a race, a bit like when you turn over your exam paper, you scan the field and panic over whom you don't think you can beat. It's not the case here.

I think Shamaal Nibras will win. The fact he is 10-1 is the only surprise. The horse hasn't been in the yard for long but there is much in his favour. A drop of 2lbs, from a promising run at Goodwood (fro an awful draw), enables him to run in a 0-95 for the first time in a while, he acts on the ground and the step up again to a 1m is definitely in his favour.

Shamaal Nibras is a lovely big horse so his stride will be used more tonight than has often been the case with him in the past. There will be plenty of pace in the race with Spa's Dancer, the market leader, the worst drawn in 13, unless they come across to the stands rails.

Plenty of horses in this contest want further and the same number wouldn't want any more rain. I love this horse and his attitude. He really needs to win to cement his place in the Hunt Cup (he is probably too well handicapped now), a race that he would have a chance in.
Posted by terry norman at 18:18 No comments: 

Price is dropping by the minute


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 09:55:14 AM
Also fancy a real ew Banzai at Hamilton later. Potentiale 4.40.

It's a 9 yr old that has just moved stables(I know, I know) but I have have been watching this horse for a while, and the change to this uwardly mobile trainer maybe just what he needs in his twilight years.

He has an over 50% strike rate of reaching the frame, and always seems to run well after a long break, off much higher ratings to boot. Normally travels very well too, so probable chance to trade, if you feel inclined.

Concerns are the obvious move, and the lady jock, but the standout 16s with Spoilsports more than compansates in a very weak looking race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on May 30, 2013, 10:19:57 AM
Have been sent this blog from a friend whenever IM has a runner. The blogger, Terry Norman, is race planner for the stable Info has been pretty good, and he seems v confident. FYI

Wednesday, 29 May 2013
Shamaal Nibras at Sandown .........................................................
Shamaal Nibras - Sandown, Thursday

Normally when I look at a race, a bit like when you turn over your exam paper, you scan the field and panic over whom you don't think you can beat. It's not the case here.

I think Shamaal Nibras will win. The fact he is 10-1 is the only surprise. The horse hasn't been in the yard for long but there is much in his favour. A drop of 2lbs, from a promising run at Goodwood (fro an awful draw), enables him to run in a 0-95 for the first time in a while, he acts on the ground and the step up again to a 1m is definitely in his favour.

Shamaal Nibras is a lovely big horse so his stride will be used more tonight than has often been the case with him in the past. There will be plenty of pace in the race with Spa's Dancer, the market leader, the worst drawn in 13, unless they come across to the stands rails.

Plenty of horses in this contest want further and the same number wouldn't want any more rain. I love this horse and his attitude. He really needs to win to cement his place in the Hunt Cup (he is probably too well handicapped now), a race that he would have a chance in.
Posted by terry norman at 18:18 No comments: 

Price is dropping by the minute

Thanks

around 4/1 now!.......had a little bit on the F/C with Swing Alone running on for second .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 30, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
Does anyone have a view on Candleford in 8.10 Wetherby - looks a big price to me. Decent e/w bet, what am I missing ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 05:01:30 PM
Also fancy a real ew Banzai at Hamilton later. Potentiale 4.40.

It's a 9 yr old that has just moved stables(I know, I know) but I have have been watching this horse for a while, and the change to this uwardly mobile trainer maybe just what he needs in his twilight years.

He has an over 50% strike rate of reaching the frame, and always seems to run well after a long break, off much higher ratings to boot. Normally travels very well too, so probable chance to trade, if you feel inclined.

Concerns are the obvious move, and the lady jock, but the standout 16s with Spoilsports more than compansates in a very weak looking race.


Nice profit, but may have scooped the lot if we didn't have John Wayne's daughter on it......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 30, 2013, 05:10:50 PM
Cheers Adz, had abit on that :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
Nice one, I obv got caught up next door and forgot  ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
Does anyone have a view on Candleford in 8.10 Wetherby - looks a big price to me. Decent e/w bet, what am I missing ?


Not missing a thing mate. Strange race, but right result. VWP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 30, 2013, 08:33:59 PM
yeah a few heart stopping moments in that race,  went off 9/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
Another crossbar. Difference, again the jocks, ex champ vs an apprentice(albeit a good one).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 30, 2013, 09:22:14 PM
Nice pick simonatur, great result Unlucky Adz, you know what they say.....keep knocking on the door and eventually it'l open! In other words, keep them coming so i can keep having a more informed punt that my lucky pin.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 30, 2013, 10:12:53 PM
Does anyone have a view on Candleford in 8.10 Wetherby - looks a big price to me. Decent e/w bet, what am I missing ?

very well done mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 30, 2013, 10:14:25 PM
Also fancy a real ew Banzai at Hamilton later. Potentiale 4.40.

It's a 9 yr old that has just moved stables(I know, I know) but I have have been watching this horse for a while, and the change to this uwardly mobile trainer maybe just what he needs in his twilight years.

He has an over 50% strike rate of reaching the frame, and always seems to run well after a long break, off much higher ratings to boot. Normally travels very well too, so probable chance to trade, if you feel inclined.

Concerns are the obvious move, and the lady jock, but the standout 16s with Spoilsports more than compansates in a very weak looking race.


Nice profit, but may have scooped the lot if we didn't have John Wayne's daughter on it......

always love a john hills leaver :)

the trainer is decent but his owner and pretty much only backer is absolutely obsessed with lady jockeys, unfourtantley he is also obsessed with booking the not very good ones a lot



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 10:15:49 PM
Cant believe I am gonna suggest two nine year olds in one day, but I am!

Vainglory 3.20 Epsom.

Ran twice at Epsom in this race, Investec Mile, being placed both times, off higher marks. Form on the ground.

Normally as its owned by the trainer, he lets the apprentices ride it, but tomorrow he has put Lane up. Another good sign.

Ew the safe play at BOG 12s generally


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 30, 2013, 10:40:05 PM
Taking the lay side of a 12/1 is a bit meh but Vainglory is a non-winner for me these days, quite happy to follow the others round. Think I'd sooner back him for a place on the machine if anything.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 10:53:43 PM
You're probably right Chompy.
 
It didn't look off one bit last time under Laura Pike, who I think was having her first ride of the year, so suspect it is primed for this bearing in mind it's record in the race.

Hoping it's a safe conveyance for the ew, but understand the reticence


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 30, 2013, 10:55:37 PM
good point on pike who i am pretty sure semi retired in the winter put a few lbs on (relative obviously) had a change of heart and has been on a big fitness thing to get back to racing weight

i actually think the horse has a good attitude just been so used to being used as an apprentice ride for simcock just lost that will to win by being given to much to do so often.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2013, 11:24:19 PM
Shame that Betfair don't have a market so I can lock it in http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/wolverhampton-wanderers/10090090/Kenny-Jackett-is-expected-to-be-appointed-as-the-new-Wolves-manager.html


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Friday 31st May

2PTS WIN DRUMMOND 6-1 general

Bath 7,25


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
Cant believe I am gonna suggest two nine year olds in one day, but I am!

Vainglory 3.20 Epsom.

Ran twice at Epsom in this race, Investec Mile, being placed both times, off higher marks. Form on the ground.

Normally as its owned by the trainer, he lets the apprentices ride it, but tomorrow he has put Lane up. Another good sign.

Ew the safe play at BOG 12s generally

superb stuff

well done adz very well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Excellento!

Hopefully that was just the aperitif for Chompy's tip.

Then we can all go off to Bath!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 31, 2013, 03:51:27 PM
Excellento!

Hopefully that was just the aperitif for Chompy's tip.

Then we can all go off to Bath!

Well played m8 ;hattip;

So caught up in the manager markets I missed it...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 31, 2013, 03:59:55 PM

Yikes, well done Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 31, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
Well done Adz, hope you had a little tickle yourself on Talent (sounds good don't it)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 31, 2013, 05:05:09 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 05:06:26 PM
Certainly did mate. I tend to put question marks after my selections as deference to the Elders. My money is down already, so I can't get talked out of it ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 05:07:38 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Not really.

Couple of lucky arrows.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 31, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Cant believe I am gonna suggest two nine year olds in one day, but I am!

Vainglory 3.20 Epsom.

Ran twice at Epsom in this race, Investec Mile, being placed both times, off higher marks. Form on the ground.

Normally as its owned by the trainer, he lets the apprentices ride it, but tomorrow he has put Lane up. Another good sign.

Ew the safe play at BOG 12s generally

superb stuff

well done adz very well done



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 31, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Certainly did mate.

lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 31, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Certainly did mate.

lol

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 05:40:13 PM
LOL, I can get in enough trouble on my own....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 31, 2013, 06:17:27 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Post of the week. Not even close.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 06:23:40 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Post of the week. Not even close.


Timing has set me up there, I was answering the question about backing Talent. Oh my.... ;marks;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 07:54:07 PM
lucky that was withdrawn would not have beaten that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 08:00:48 PM
i am puzzled as to why THANE OF CAWDOR is so big in the 8.30 BATH

2pts win 9-1 general (10-1 and 11-1 about)

slowly improved for this stable on the all weather, see no reason why the turf is a negative



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 31, 2013, 09:33:23 PM
i am puzzled as to why THANE OF CAWDOR is so big in the 8.30 BATH

2pts win 9-1 general (10-1 and 11-1 about)

slowly improved for this stable on the all weather, see no reason why the turf is a negative



Thane of Cawdor...that shalt be king hereafter


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
Love trying to solve the Dash at Epsom each year.

This year I really like Ajjaadd 3.15 @15-1 will hill ew

Course and distance form and seems to be on the improve.

Last time it won from a bad draw after settling nicely, early on. Willie Twister obviously knew he had loads under him as he sat still for a bit too long and the leaders almost got away, but he quickened nicely. The way he settled I think a stronger run race, which he is likely to get tomorrow, will only help. Good middle draw, is a positive.

Willie Twister is replaced by another decent apprentice in Kieron O Neill, so not ideal, but still happy.

If I'm on the right lines, I also like Right Step in the 4.50. A course winner, with a trainer and jockey in form, and almost a stone lower than when he last won here. 11s generally.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 01, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
just a small bet in the dash for me today

1pt win JIROFT 33-1 few firms

no idea why this is the almost complete rag of the field. All of the pundits have been telling everybody all morning how you need to be drawn high, the last two years in handicaps on this course that is not the case at all. The horse is unknown but with top sprint connections and from what i can find on youtube from its italian form has plenty of pace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 01, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
High numbers haven't been best at Epsom since the 90s.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 01, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
has not stopped the tired old stuff today from the usual suspects

most of the pace looks high but i cant have this being a very good renewal with captain dunne nearly favourite



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2013, 03:38:12 PM
Moderate baulk as he made his move, but never looked as happy early doors as he did last time.

Cant win em all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 01, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
happy with that

considering it went off 120 sp on betfair

the first two look group animals


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kpnuts on June 01, 2013, 03:55:40 PM
A few firms paid 5 places. Nice e/w punt for some!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 01, 2013, 03:57:30 PM
A few firms paid 5 places. Nice e/w punt for some!

well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 01, 2013, 08:47:42 PM
High numbers haven't been best at Epsom since the 90s.

hmmm last ten years shows still a slight advantage

Low       12   155   7.7%   21.9%   0.94   0.94   £-19.00   -12.3%
Middle   12   172   7.0%   23.3%   0.85   0.75   £-20.00   -11.6%
High      18   182   9.9%   30.2%   1.20   0.86   £-1.25   -0.7%


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 02, 2013, 12:50:40 PM
after two 9 year old this week, now gonna suggest an interest in a horse beat a total of 125 lengths in his first 3 outings.

The Potting Shed 5.15 Southwell, looks not to have been put into any of his races so far, but quiet rides have caught my eye. Seems a stiffish mark to start with, but as a gelding out of Presenting should relish the step up to 3 miles.

Could be anything, goes the hackneyed phrase.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 02, 2013, 04:12:30 PM
1pt win Dance Moves 10-1 4.00 Chantilly (France)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 03, 2013, 09:36:03 AM
Hi Horsey,  Question for you if you have a chance. Looking at 16.15 Leics today it appears Sofias Number One is 13/2 due to not acting on turf.  Would you rather be a backer or layer at 13/2 ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 03, 2013, 09:54:16 AM
Hi Horsey,  Question for you if you have a chance. Looking at 16.15 Leics today it appears Sofias Number One is 13/2 due to not acting on turf.  Would you rather be a backer or layer at 13/2 ?

at 13-2 just a backer i think but not by a great deal

i actually think the horse might drift some more, did last time at southwell despite the obvious form there very unsexy yard but he does well with this type.

like you say the turf is a big worry has to be.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 03, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 03, 2013, 10:55:07 AM
Had a couple of small bets today:

Wiindsor   19.00   Victrix Ludorum 7/1 win
Chepstow 17.35   April Ciel           9/1 win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 04, 2013, 10:28:03 AM
Had a couple of small bets today:

Wiindsor   19.00   Victrix Ludorum 7/1 win
Chepstow 17.35   April Ciel           9/1 win

Nice, 2 out of 2 beaten into 2nd by a neck. Don't tell BadBeat but I greened out some profit on April Ciel it went off at 7/2.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 04, 2013, 10:30:40 AM
Had a couple of small bets today:

Wiindsor   19.00   Victrix Ludorum 7/1 win
Chepstow 17.35   April Ciel           9/1 win

Nice, 2 out of 2 beaten into 2nd by a neck. Don't tell BadBeat but I greened out some profit on April Ciel it went off at 7/2.

As long as you pretend it was because you thought 7/2 was a touch too short, he won't mind ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 04, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
been given the chance to do something for a week elsewhere will return to this thread all being well this time next week

happy punting all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 04, 2013, 09:33:55 PM
Good luck with it m8, and see you next week hopefully  :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 04, 2013, 09:52:40 PM
Good luck with it m8, and see you next week hopefully  :)up

ty mate appreciate it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 05, 2013, 01:56:32 PM


Not intending to spam my colleagues at Oddschecker - we share offices - but their racing tips seem to have improved of late, & they hit the jackpot yesterday, two tips, two winners, 16/1 & 8/1!

Racing Tips - 04/06/2013

Today looks mainly standard weekday fare with a few classier races at Ripon.

My first bet goes at Ripon in the 3.30 and is Suits Me at 16/1. Now this horse is nearly older than me but I feel has been underestimated by the early market today. It is a highly competitive race with plenty of in-form horses, but Ted Barron's charge returns on a handicap mark of 87 which is his lowest for nearly two years. More importantly the horse showed most of his old ability last season, running well around the 90 mark in even better races than this.

The horse has never had a long break before in its career so may benefit from the 235 day break today, the trainer has a better record first time out after a long break than most and the horse has plenty of form at Ripon throughout its career. The field looks to have plenty of horses who like to lead or race handily which is not ideal but a horse up with the pace is usually favoured at Ripon.
1pt win

The last race at Lingfield on the polytrack catches my eye. It is a typical class 6 mile handicap which fills the weekday schedule. The horse I like is Super Duplex, who has uninspiring form figures of 245080 but has been backed from 16/1 in to 10/1 this morning.

The horse is not the easiest to win with but in my opinion the last few runs can easily be ignored from the formbook. His last three starts have all been over too short a trip and ridden by inexperienced apprentices. The horse has been settled in rear in each start and never had the pace to get involved, and as a result the handicapper has very kindly dropped Super Duplex to a mark of 58. Now considering he ran a good race on Feb 13th over 10 furlongs here when finishing 4th to Understory in a class 5 (a much stronger race than this) I feel this is more than fair.

The horse is ridden by Ian Mongan today, who is the go-to jockey for the trainer and has been on board for all of the horses wins and most of its best runs. The dangers are numerous but I feel this horses recent form figures do not tell the whole story and I fancy it to go close at the very least today.
1pt win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 05, 2013, 02:33:37 PM
^
post earlier pls


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 05, 2013, 04:07:44 PM


Not intending to spam my colleagues at Oddschecker


Call


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 06, 2013, 04:09:54 PM
I'm having a speculative e/w bet on Corporal Maddox @ 50/1 in 7.25 at Sandown.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MahoganyVic on June 06, 2013, 07:40:39 PM
Heading down to the Haydock meeting tomor, any tips would be greatly appreciated :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 06, 2013, 10:27:20 PM
A guy i follow posted this:

In form jockey Ryan Moore has ridden over 20 winners in the past fortnight at a strike rate of 29% and he travels to Haydock for just three rides.  One of his rides comes aboard MY PROPELLER, who is sent on a near 400 mile round trip as trainer Peter Chapple-Hyam's only runner of the day.  Ryan Moore has ridden seven winners for Chapple-Hyam in recent seasons for an impressive level stakes profit of £50.96.  My Propeller has won three of her 11 starts on turf, including at Listed level as a juvenile.  She won her final start as a 3-y-o and made a very respectable seasonal reappearance in April when 2nd at Bath in a Listed race (ahead of three of these rivals).  She was well beaten on her last start but that came in the Group 3 Palace House Stakes against the likes of Sole Power, Kingsgate Native and Tangerine Trees.  Conditions should be ideal as she handles good to firm ground and is a dual winner over 5 furlongs.

from http://www.chrisbakersportstips.co.uk

Any views on this adz or horsey?  I see horsey's pick the other day Jiroft is fav, and a horse Adz made an observation about (doc hay) is in it too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 07, 2013, 11:48:41 PM
Was it you who said Dazinski was worth keeping an eye on after a race the other week Horsey?

I see it's running in the 14:05 @ Haydock tomorrow with Callan on board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 08, 2013, 09:29:14 AM
Was it you who said Dazinski was worth keeping an eye on after a race the other week Horsey?

I see it's running in the 14:05 @ Haydock tomorrow with Callan on board.

No mate. Was me.

Looks an ideal race today. Last time out travelled well til got squeezed on rail, and in ground he hates, he was allowed to come home in own time. Stable were in dreadful form then as well.

Two pounds lower than last winning mark, on ideal ground, all his wins have been on G/F, and his only run at Haydock, he came second in a hot race.

Looks mighty fine ew bet at 20s today, even up against a Pricewise pick!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 08, 2013, 12:41:17 PM
Was it you who said Dazinski was worth keeping an eye on after a race the other week Horsey?

I see it's running in the 14:05 @ Haydock tomorrow with Callan on board.

No mate. Was me.

Looks an ideal race today. Last time out travelled well til got squeezed on rail, and in ground he hates, he was allowed to come home in own time. Stable were in dreadful form then as well.

Two pounds lower than last winning mark, on ideal ground, all his wins have been on G/F, and his only run at Haydock, he came second in a hot race.

Looks mighty fine ew bet at 20s today, even up against a Pricewise pick!

I remember now, good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
All aboard the Marie Celeste!

Been watching this one for a while. Its with that little minx Violet Jordan, who seems to squeeze every bit of juice from her horses, but only on demand, and normally at good prices. Owned by the mysterious RAKEBACKMYPOKER.COM.....!

I have watched Amenable tumble down the handicap, from a high of 89 to its current mark of 58. It looked like it was running into form two races ago at Catterick, and was then made fav for an apprentice race at Southwell last time. I think it was the first ride in this country for a promising Irish jockey, but he managed to keep the horse in every bit of kickback going, yet still ran on steadily at the end.

In my notes I reckoned a stiff 5f was what was required. Today at Beverley, he gets that, and at around 10s worth a few quid. GL if you join in!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 12, 2013, 02:27:14 PM
Trading @ 18 currently on betty Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 12, 2013, 02:29:28 PM
Bit of money for it now in to 12.5..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 02:33:05 PM
Traded at 1.8 and couldnt get run on rail.

Beaten length and a half and finished hard on the steel......grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 02:33:54 PM
Correction. Beer money traded at 1.24........arrrrrgh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 12, 2013, 02:34:18 PM
Nearly £1200 traded on it IR @1.3.

They must have been watching a different race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 02:35:40 PM
With a run would defo have won, but 1.3 was short as never looked like getting the run


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 02:45:32 PM
FWIW, i am on Reset City in 5.00 at Bev.

Johnston is running it for the 4th time in under 4 weeks, almost unheard of, but it keeps showing all the right signs at home, and no signs of taking the races badly. Last chance for him with me tho!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 05:07:36 PM
FWIW, i am on Reset City in 5.00 at Bev.

Johnston is running it for the 4th time in under 4 weeks, almost unheard of, but it keeps showing all the right signs at home, and no signs of taking the races badly. Last chance for him with me tho!


 :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 12, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
Cheers Adz :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 05:24:53 PM
Bit of a touch there. 7s earlier. ;bigadz;

I Thank You


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 12, 2013, 05:38:19 PM
Good shot sir, unfortunately I missed it :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 09:28:21 PM
Two for tomorrow

Vandross 4.20 Yarmouth @9-1 VC

Given a gentle first ride of the season and flew at the end. Comes from a stable that loves Yarmouth winners, and never thrashes them first time out. Extra 2 furlongs and five pound turn around with current second fav should see him go v close I hope!

Lady Nouf 3.25 Newbury

Cant believe its 15/8 VC. Close second to both Oaks winner and second fav, giving both tough races. Almost looks too big a price! GL if you on!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on June 13, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
Two for tomorrow

Vandross 4.20 Yarmouth @9-1 VCGiven a gentle first ride of the season and flew at the end. Comes from a stable that loves Yarmouth winners, and never thrashes them first time out. Extra 2 furlongs and five pound turn around with current second fav should see him go v close I hope!

Lady Nouf 3.25 Newbury

Cant believe its 15/8 VC. Close second to both Oaks winner and second fav, giving both tough races. Almost looks too big a price! GL if you on!


on Luther !

gl us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 13, 2013, 04:29:20 PM
Best things in life are free


Sadly this Vandross wasnt listening. Not quite sure why they stuck the blinkers on when he obviously hated them and didnt go a yard.

I shall give him one more try once they take them back off. Sorry bout that.

Lady Nouf. If they say something looks too good to be true, it normally is. Not sure making it into that headwind was great move but there we go.

Onwards


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 13, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
Looking through tomorrow's racing and wanted to try and find a horse with some sort of chance at a decent price in the 17.15 at York. Based on my extremely limited knowledge I picked out Song of Siren at 16/1 to back e/w with B365, seems to have some relevant form, advantageous draw according to Oddschecker, stable not without winners recently.

Welcome any feedback or alternative picks. If I get any encouragement I might go crazy and have another £2.50 e/w.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 13, 2013, 08:45:42 PM
O'Meara, gotta have a chance with anything he runs.

Looks value enough at the price, only thing is the kid on it has only had one ride this year.

Race has a Chompy horse in it that has done me a couple of favours, Arc Light that looks to be an improving sort.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 14, 2013, 06:20:11 PM
List horse entered twice next midweek, Barwick. Oi oi!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 14, 2013, 07:53:32 PM
Carnage tomorrow

Fancy 3

Sam Sharp 2.40
Lady Rosamunde 5.05
Tatlisu 7.35

All ew prices. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 14, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
Bet Tatlisu last time out at a big price, definately didnt get a clear run, i think it bumped into the horse infront atleast 3 times, fancy it tomorrow as well as long as it gets a clear run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on June 14, 2013, 09:13:53 PM
List horse entered twice next midweek, Barwick. Oi oi!

You got a mention in Laddies shops yesterday!

Went something like this:

Laddies drone 1 "Graham Wheldon in the Post goes for xyz in 4.15 at Wanga Wanga. I think he's one the Post's best tipsters"

Laddies drone 2. "Never heard of him"

LOL



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 14, 2013, 09:15:39 PM
Was Chompy doing the form for Cartoon racing?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 14, 2013, 09:24:14 PM
List horse entered twice next midweek, Barwick. Oi oi!

You got a mention in Laddies shops yesterday!

Went something like this:

Laddies drone 1 "Graham Wheldon in the Post goes for xyz in 4.15 at Wanga Wanga. I think he's one the Post's best tipsters"

Laddies drone 2. "Never heard of him"

LOL


Booooooom!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 15, 2013, 11:50:22 AM
Rivellino caught my eye last time out with what looked like very bad luck IR.

Runs today at York 3.50pm.

Looks a tough race but well-drawn in the kind of EW contest that would have sir senseialot drooling. I suspect it could be improving so a little ~12/1 EW seems fair enough.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 15, 2013, 12:53:51 PM
Bet Tatlisu last time out at a big price, definately didnt get a clear run, i think it bumped into the horse infront atleast 3 times, fancy it tomorrow as well as long as it gets a clear run.


More value pie. Lets hope we get to eat some

16s into 11/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2013, 01:39:51 PM
Hopefully between Adz/Hugh/Pricewise and Ben Linfoot the Vegas fund is getting topped up today... Leggoooooo!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 15, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
First one in

9-1(15/2)...... ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2013, 03:10:17 PM
Freerolling the day, and the Olympic Garden is depending on you Adz ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 15, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
Meh traded @1.5 IR then not ridden out for a place :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2013, 03:58:35 PM
Olympic Garden look out!

<3 Pricewise!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 15, 2013, 07:38:33 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Get in you good thing....Oi Oi!!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2013, 07:47:28 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Get in you good thing....Oi Oi!!!!!

Strippers throughout Vegas will be giving thanks to you shortly!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 15, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Get in you good thing....Oi Oi!!!!!

Oi oi, nice work :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redsimon on June 15, 2013, 08:16:40 PM
Nice tipping , good to see my skybet balance looking a lot healthier :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 15, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
well done!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 15, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
Top tipstering sir. Machin's yawnsome puns ruined an otherwise interesting card.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 16, 2013, 12:23:25 AM
Would like to have a quiet one but its on my list.

Lutine Bell 4.40 Donc. Ran on late over 7 last time, and over 6 this, but with a clear run, last time, could have won at either. Ryan Moore up for small stable. Surprised its as big as 5s.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 16, 2013, 11:58:16 AM
Nice tipping yesterday Adzy, I missed the first race and let the RP put me off the other selections..

Must remember to back your picks blind next time, good luck today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 16, 2013, 12:31:03 PM
Non Runner. 8)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 17, 2013, 09:21:25 AM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on June 17, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)

write up is vital, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Eso Kral on June 17, 2013, 11:37:39 AM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)

write up is vital, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 17, 2013, 11:44:16 AM
+1 write up pls,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 17, 2013, 12:23:29 PM
Texts to remind me too pls boss ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 17, 2013, 04:40:53 PM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)

Either way for me, just as long as I have time to read it and get on from work I don't mind :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Somerled on June 17, 2013, 04:45:42 PM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)

Write up please.
Soon as you like.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 17, 2013, 06:21:57 PM
Has to be bet with PP

Sovereign Debt 16-1 ew. Best price and also qualifies for money back if AK wins.

Keen to take on Animal Kingdom as its yet to run over here/win over a mile/raced in Dubai/States, round tracks vs straight/grass etc, So at odds on seems worth trying to find one to beat him.

I have watched SD since his first race, due to connections, and seen him gradually improve with age/experience. He has v good course form, and ran his best race to date last time out to come second in the Lockinge. To now Spencer has ridden him and given him too much to do on plenty of occasions and he always appears too late on the scene.
Kirby took over last time and made a move a bit earlier and hopefully will learn from it.
With his improving profile and liking for the course I really am expecting a big run in what looks a weak field for the event.


The other one I fancy is a massive price(tend to leave the shorties alone. Like Horsey, I work on the basis you can miss a few times if you look outside the norm)
Apache 5.00. 40s with VC/Stan/365.
An O brien cast off, it was well touted early doors, but looked a bit slow. As a Gallileo he is crying out for distance races and last time he was finally stepped up to 2m, he travelled really well at Haydock in a decent enough handicap, running on nicely from a mile back to finish 5th. The last time he had been run over a similar suitable type of distance, was the 1.6m Melrose(a v strong York handicap later in the year, where he was well supported and finished like he wasn't stopping in 3rd)
With most of the field heading into unknown territory distance wise, he has the pedigree to relish the step up, and at 40s worth a chance. Stable hardly flying, but like the jockey, and its all factored in.

My notes said to back Swiss Spirit(3.05) next time out regardless after his last race, where he lost a lot of ground at the start, but with a real strong field against him, I shall leave it up to you! GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 18, 2013, 05:31:29 PM
Safe to say, I have had better days........ ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 18, 2013, 05:41:23 PM
we'll get them tomorrow.  Anyone see where chompys list horse is running yet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 18, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Barwick not running this week :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 18, 2013, 05:54:05 PM
Shame, let us know if you have any more good things please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 18, 2013, 09:49:52 PM
Couldn't hit a barn door today

Gonna chuck two bullets at a couple of old stagers in the Hunt Cup. One each side of the draw

Premio Loco 40-1 BFred.
C&D winner and should love this drop into a top handicap with a good pace guaranteed. Almost a stone lower than his last winning mark and Baker knows how to get the best from him.

Directorship 33-1 365
Seems to be on the improve at 7. Last year seemed to continually be unlucky in his runs and this year under new pilot Dane O'Neill is 2-2, and last time beat a decent field where top 5 have all franked the form, but an easy 3 lengths. Again, needs a strong pace two come off.

Back em both ew 1,2,3,4,5.


Having a complete Banzai in the big one with a small ew on Miblish who can be backed at 100-1. Seems to be improving, which needs to, obviously, but ran a good race last time having stumbled badly from the stalls. Got Ryan Moore up, and every so often Barmy Brittain knocks in one of these supposed no hopers. Hope to see The Fugue come back with a win. My fav horse from last year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 04:55:21 PM
Nearly..... Premio Loco,  Ran a cracker, and glad didn't put all my "draw bias" eggs in one basket. Dictatorship, got murdered in the betting-backed into 14s....and on the track. Yet again proving value don't pay the bills.

Very pleased with the sweat Miblish gave as well. Sure didnt run like a 100-1 shot.

Getting there...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 19, 2013, 04:58:19 PM
Sums up today for me, I could only get 40s with Betfred and the bald wanker would only lay me £4


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 19, 2013, 06:04:49 PM
love the loco

well done adz picking some pearlers

having a really busy time here at present be back on more soon (i hope)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 19, 2013, 06:15:32 PM
interesting lads are still laying 11-2 No Nay Never in the Norfolk tommorow (been smashed in everywere else)

trainer has said all the time this is his best and quickest, his 20-1 shot lead everywhere but the line today and the speed figures of No Nay Never are miles better

I am sure he will lead and 11-2 looks more than fair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 06:26:29 PM
Come on back Horsey. Just keeping reins warm while you were away, and I leave for honeymoon next week for a month, so Your Thread Needs You!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 07:44:24 PM
Quite excited.

Two tracker horses at v nice prices for tomorrow

4.25 Red Avenger 40s generally

Ran in the Silver Bowl at Haydock and the write up doesn't reflect the race I saw. It certainly wasnt "pushed along 3f out, weakened one out" I saw more of a "squeezed when starting a challenge, stayed on when race over, never nearer" And I am not even talking through my pocket. Maybe thats why he is 40s. Great!!

5.35 Royal Skies 12s
In the notebook after it won a race at Ponte. Two words. "Royal Ascot". Needed a penalty to get in and since been bumped a heavy 13lbs but won again off new mark last week very nicely , and looks like the annual Johnstone RA winner to me. Always seems to get an improver here in top form.

Also impressed by Riposte in the second. Needs to make up over a stone on the ratings, but fancy it can, and would love to see a Cecil winner.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 19, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
People getting on your tips already probably know, but just incase - worth doing red avenger at betvictor with their promo.  Hughes on the fav for the race and if he places (top 5) and red avenger loses then you get your money back.

Any worries about the forcast rain Adz? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 08:04:20 PM
Both only run on soft ground on their first ever runs mate. Neither beaten too far, so hard to draw any conclusions.

Would be less worried by Royal S, as has a lovely round action.

Just seen RS is also declared for the Queens Vase on Friday.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 19, 2013, 09:01:19 PM
Both only run on soft ground on their first ever runs mate. Neither beaten too far, so hard to draw any conclusions.

Would be less worried by Royal S, as has a lovely round action.

Just seen RS is also declared for the Queens Vase on Friday.....


What does this mean for its chances tomorrow?  My horse racing knowledge is limited.  If the ground doesn't suit tomorrow it will go non runner and go for friday?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
Honestly not sure Ali.

He has a few entries in both and I can only assume because RS ran last week, they may feel he may need the extra day to get over his exertions.

He may of course be that good he can win both ;kev;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 19, 2013, 09:52:40 PM
Fair enough, my money is down already anyway so whatever will be will be. Last note for those looking to back red avenger, drifted to 50/1 in two spots, and luckily one of those is betvictor (the other is bet365)  where imo its best to back him with the money back as a free bet offer if hughes places on the fav wentworth.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 10:05:55 PM
Good news on RA. Longer the better.

Not too worried about RS. He sure aint using tomorrow as a tee up race for Friday, so if he runs he's trying. If he doesn't -money back!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 19, 2013, 10:41:30 PM

Had a great afternoon at Hamilton with the racing there and Ascot on the big screen.  They start the longer races in front of the stands so you can get this view

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4080/3ifn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/3ifn.jpg/)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 04:00:34 AM
Lovely pic mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 12:33:43 PM
Royal Skies out, Looks like he is out to spoil the Cecil party tomorrow....eek!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 03:10:22 PM
Oi Oi.

Nice One Sir Henry.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 20, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
Both boys in form today so far  ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 04:34:39 PM
Another strange day.

Nice winner for Cecil which paid for the day

Avenger. What a weird ride. Almost tailed off with two to go and finished about 9th abso flying down the near side. Gonna be one of them that costs me fortunes before finally winning when odds on I expect, but for now he shall stay in the book. Apols.

Edit. If backed with VC, should get your money back tho( if placed £25 or less), thanks to Wentworth placing!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on June 20, 2013, 04:43:18 PM
Bricked the 4.25 completely, not even a sweat.

Surely the bookies was getting a hammering before this race?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 07:41:29 PM
Profit again so best keep bashing on.

As Johnstone loves to farm the Queens Vase at 5.00, I have to stick with Royal Skies. Looks a weaker race overall tbh, and if he stays looks great value at 12s again.

Not sure I shall be going mad on it but shall be investing in Dick Doughtwylie 4.25. In his last couple of races he has made a good fist of things against the like of Al Kazeem, Danadanna, Thomas Chippendale beaten not very far in two races. Looks cracking ew shout at 10s.

Finally. The Buckingham Palace looks the hardest race this week, with several fancied Hunt Cup horses that missed the cut turning up here. However Shamaal Nibras ran an eyecatching race first time out for his new stable with the young jock on top, not exactly riding his heart out, looking to me like the prize was another day. At 33s I shall be getting stuck in at 33s with PP ew first 6!

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 20, 2013, 09:43:12 PM
Loving the top 6 each way on PP for the last race,  Shamaal seems to prefer the softer ground so im hoping for abit of rain!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
Not sure if he has avoided GF ground, not been much around last year or so!, but sire won on Firm, so hoping its not a concern.

Time will tell. One thing for sure I think 33s is great value at 6 places for this horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 10:12:53 PM
Not a great one for laying horses, but fav in first  tomorrow with Frankie up top got to be worth considering. I know Fahey loves it but Frankie riding so bad he looks like he needs the full allowance again.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 20, 2013, 10:27:12 PM
Maybe worth backing Joyeus the second fav then on hills or lads with the money back if 2nd offer.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 10:39:59 PM
Hills a point better.

Is it Ipad/Moby only offer?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 20, 2013, 10:44:37 PM
Yeah hills one is mobile/ipad only.

Just got my royal skies bet on, hopefully just finish work intime to catch the races and get the weekend off to a good start!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 10:52:44 PM
N1.

Lets hope Frankie is having a "big " nite ;)....lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 20, 2013, 11:21:19 PM
I'd worry Adz, you might have problems because I had backed Doughtywylie earlier and it can't be healthy picking the same horses I have!

I'll have to see if I can get C4 Racing in the Nugget sports book at 6am Saturday. However, hopefully by then Tikay and I will be freerolling our expedition to Glitter Gulch on some nice results tomorrow ;D

Good luck everyone!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 20, 2013, 11:27:14 PM
Probably the worst name for anything ever anywhere.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 20, 2013, 11:40:29 PM
Probably the worst name for anything ever anywhere.

Not sure about that, I'll have a think while I'm flying tomorrow and I'm sure I've got a few in the memory bank worse...

Obviously secondhand information though, never frequented such establishments myself ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 20, 2013, 11:44:18 PM
Probably the worst name for anything ever anywhere.

Not sure about that, I'll have a think while I'm flying tomorrow and I'm sure I've got a few in the memory bank worse...

Obviously secondhand information though, never frequented such establishments myself
;)

...is the correct answer.

Get ready for adverts like this:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CquP3VGCeEE


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Somerled on June 21, 2013, 09:39:38 AM
Just going to throw a random big priced one out there for today in the 3.45.

Lovely Pass at 40-1 with Victor looks too big for a horse with C&D form - beautifully bred too - fresh too, so I think should be more of a 16-1 shot. With the Hughes money back offer too I just think it's a big price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 21, 2013, 10:34:41 AM
just jamesie for me today small eway with 5 places in the 5.35 at 20-1

likes ascot, the watered and rain sodden ground is an unexpected bonus, ran perfectly well last time over a mile at the curragh last time looked like a prep run and probably was



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 21, 2013, 10:58:11 AM
It'll be interesting to see the effect this rain on top of the watering has on the draw.

High was definitely favoured on the first day but the last couple of days have seemed pretty even. Will soft ground favour high draws again?

Who'd be a clerk of the course?

The forecast rain didn't arrive yesterday leading to quite a few withdrawals so he takes the fairly obvious decision to water last night, now it's raining on top of that..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 21, 2013, 11:17:21 AM
the bha directive is to aim for good to firm ground

however as soon as the ground goes firm for some reason connections panic

stickels loves the watering can todays ground could be anything


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 12:53:54 PM
With all of Hughes whinging about the draw in the Coronation, could resist looking harder at the race.

After looking at all the collateral form of the big 2, I can't help but think Maureen has been very unlucky in her last two races, both the 1000Gs. Finishing 6th in both, in Ireland she was knocked from pillar to post and in England Pesslier gave her far to much to do. prior to that she was a comfortable winner of the Fred Darling, again, overcoming some interference.

Cant help thinking 16s is really quite a good bet....oh no....it has Frankie on board. Still, if he wins on Sandiva I am probably wrong about his "losing the plot". Happy to be proved wrong, if it gives this one a better chance!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 02:45:27 PM
Frankie swerve worked. Wrong horse but done ew so no damage.

Next!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 03:52:33 PM
LOL @ Hughes. Moaning moron..

Still money back all round after another example of Frankie being a shadow of former etc...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
Think its fairly clear Mr Johnstone made a mistake.

Skies cruised into lead round the bend and then just fell in a heap. Should have left him in the 1.4miler for sure.

Lesson learnt...probably not.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 21, 2013, 05:54:55 PM
stickles worked his magic again


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 05:57:19 PM
Shamaal gives another profitable day. Not magic but keeping our head above water.

NAP runs tomorrow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 21, 2013, 06:10:46 PM
Nice work Adz, i'l load up on the nap when you post it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 07:11:46 PM
Just me and you left Bluffy!

Been keeping close tabs on this one since he moved from Meehan(Rubbish) to O'Meara(Genius).

Elusivity 4.25 Nap. Run a couple of lovely races in good company and not been terribly lucky, but that keeps him nicely placed to go well in the handicap. Should travel into the race nicely, as he can hopefully get plenty of cover and good booking with Quealy up. 28s ew with SJ first 5 tonite, but maybe some first 6 concessions tomorrow.

Another one that has actually beat Elusivity at Ascot a couple of years ago(race worth watching), I fancy to run a big ew race in the 3.45.
Sirius Prospect ew 50s generally. Again, seems to be running back into form after a year or so in the doldrums(cliche city).

Hope to see my Fav flat horse of the moment Mont Athos win, but suspect he needs a little further, and all eyes seem to be on another challenge for Melbourne. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 21, 2013, 07:24:12 PM
Probably won't be short of finding backers for sirius prospect on here.  When i first came across this forum i saw a thread titled 'this could pay for xmas' sirius prospect was the tip then and judging by the length of it, alot of people got on.  Anyway i'm on both, good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on June 21, 2013, 09:45:16 PM
Probably won't be short of finding backers for sirius prospect on here.  When i first came across this forum i saw a thread titled 'this could pay for xmas' sirius prospect was the tip then and judging by the length of it, alot of people got on.  Anyway i'm on both, good luck us!

Yeh goes back to 2010.....and a few times after!

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=50540.0


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 11:06:43 PM
LOL, fun read.

I think me putting it up at 50s seems a touch fanciful now!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 10:00:29 AM
Convinced there is some value to be had in the last race today.

Stand out fav in Shawaardi, has my old mate Frankie on board. Horse is top rated, based mainly on his second last year when an unfancied 33s shot. A close look at the race will show he was not far ahead of the Ralph Beckett trained Seaside Sizzler, who 3 out was travelling as well as anything. with a few lengths between them and both having been targeted at the race, the value has to lie with SS at 20-1 vs 3-1 for the Frankie ride(and I have done to death my thoughts on him....LAY LAY). Not too many will truly stay. SS will. Good ew bet.

Also, for those that already think Im nuts, I shall offer up a few quid on Riptide. Also ran in the race last year and finished just behind SS. A jockey change to Paul Mulrenhan  this year has seen this moody fella look a bit happier and has run two cracking races at Ponty this year. At 100-1, or 150 on the machine I have to mention it.

GL all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 11:58:05 AM
Adz, you mentioned you don't think mount athos will win, so do you think betting ektihaam on hills with the free bet offer if second is a good bet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 12:09:29 PM
Hi mate.

I have backed him, but more in hope, and am not backed anything to beat him, but all reports today would suggest he has been primed. My concern is Chester and Melbourne were the designated targets at start of year and Cumani is normally meticulous.

If I really thought/knew this was a target I would chance a bigger bet as I think he is the dogs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on June 22, 2013, 01:10:18 PM
Love Krypton Factor 345race ascot today. 25/1 four plcs paid Skybet great value IMO.
 This is a serious sprinter make no mistake. Ok Fallon drops to ride the quirky fav who we have already beaten last year in this very same race. Last year the ground was not right and we didn't have the best of draws. Different proposition today being draw/ ground. Can't blameFallon for deciding to ride the fav today but we have a decent replacement booked to ride. In fact I would say a better jockey than the current Fallon.
This horse has always run well and I see a very big run today. Gl to those that get on ! : )


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 01:23:42 PM
good luck today gents

ascot looks to hard for me today like a couple at Redcar

2.40

Favourites trainer has hit form and demands respect. however has a 10lb penalty for winning a race on its 21st start last time which looks harsh. i like MASKA PONY at 8-1, still a flat maiden but won a few over hurdles love the jockey booking and hart likes to get on with it from the front this trip should suit better.


6.10

piekeroog (first time hood might calm it down a bit but still a nutter of late), light the shitty, blue top, uncut stone, all want the lead i am hoping this helps a cliff horse of mine SHIRLS SON SAM a long standing maiden who often pulls like a mad thing. It was patently obvious all of last season that Kelly Harrison was not strong enough to win the battle with him, despite this was often well backed and has shown glimpses of ability.

I am hoping the underused Barry Mchugh can switch him off if he cant settle and race properly off this probably fast pace he never will win a race. The current 12-1 is just about acceptable





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 01:28:18 PM
  Was at the gym when I got a message society rock 11/2 , get back and obv missed it, only lasted 15 minutes!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 02:48:21 PM
N1 Horsey.

Good to have the thread owner back on form!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 02:50:04 PM
thanks adz

was a long last 3 furlongs

looked a 1.01 shot and then a 25-1 shot everytime they switched the camera angle

Nice ride from Hart did not panic


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 02:51:20 PM
Comes back, posts, wins, easy game!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 02:52:19 PM
Comes back, posts, wins, easy game!

wish it was!

thanks a



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
Horrible race there. Sad ending.

As for MA, ran as I thought he might, although Calamity Spencer showing again what a liability he is in amongst horses, getting squeezed at critical point then running on, defo needs further but could have won IMO. LOL at Mike Cattermole who was v disappointed...clown.


Johnny Murtagh. What a Don of the saddle. Pure genius, and will be a loss when he hangs up his saddle soon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on June 22, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
Overall pleased with Kryptons run there . Had nice few bob on the place : )


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 04:57:18 PM
Gutted. Needed covering up and was battling to find any cover with just a few horses staying stands side. Still managed to finish 7th and sure its money lent.

Obv the second any one of my fancies gets mentioned on TFT, thats the  :-*of death for it too.....lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 04:59:23 PM
yeah wasn't too far of.  Hopefully one of Neils picks comes in in the next, epecially art scholar :), also hughes has changed ride to laahag, shorter odds than his original ride and therefore better for the betvictor promo id imagine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
Decent run by Sizzler to nearly save the day, but decent place return. Never seen Riptide travel so sweet til he got chopped up round top bend.

Have to wonder how Cattermole keeps any job. Comments on both the above, were I wonder how they will cope with a trip this far. If he ever looked past the top three in the market he would notice they ran in it last year. Idiot.

Anyway, no damage done this week, and plenty of ifs and maybe, but personally come out a smidge ahead somehow.

See you in a month. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 06:09:22 PM
Cheers for the tips mate, have a good honeymoon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 07:34:43 PM
fancy a couple more tonight

Lingfield 8.35 STANDPOINT 4-1

still well handicapped it hacked up last time and is 9lbs lower than the mark it won off last year
12f probably not ideal but it's got the best 12f form, the focail maith run, the stand guard run, the de rigueur form, even the illustrious forest form is better than the rest of these have (fave hates aw, second fave will bounce) and were achieved off marks in the mid 70s, right back to form now and still off 68
 

Lost its way when dore was out of form but looked right on form last time trip is a doubt but against these should be ok. Very strange handicapper only putting 2lb for the last win but nice of him


9.20 Haydock Livias Dream 14-1 open race back to right trip not to happy with jockey booking but cant have everything







Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 08:43:09 PM
Lovely. Got spot Horsey.

Sadly no chance of 14s on LD, had been a WD and some oddschecker prices not updated.

Fingers crossed for a nice double. WP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 08:45:03 PM
thanks

did not really stay but the handicapper only putting up 2lbs saved the day

much the best

ld was 14-1 when posted with lads and vcbet (most were 12-1)

obviously deductions if it wins but ill worry about that when/if it happens

a lot could go wrong really dont like the jockey booking but try not to worry about that to much bar a few



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 09:26:14 PM
Unlucky there. Thought he was gonna nick it.

Not my fav jockey either, but thought he rode as good a race as possible. Just beat by an improver.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
that was annoying

especially as i had a very rare treble with the two winners

no was a good ride exposing any stamina doubts in the others, the only improver won well in the end


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 09:43:38 PM
i have been waiting for TARTAN JURA to go over a marathon trip for longer than i have been trying to lose weight

4.10 ponte tommorow forecast suggests ground should ease which it needs, this horse stays all day and then tommorow form figures suggest it is a dog its goodwood sole win tells me it probably isnt just needs a massive stamina test has no turn of foot at all

4-1 is a little shorter than i had hoped but i am still happy to have a decent bet at the price



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 09:50:25 PM
LOL. Leave tomorrow, and only one I backed is Orsipus, naturally, in same race ;frustrated; More cos it is one of those big plus column horses.

Better have a saver!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
love Orsipus one of my favourite stayers would never rule the old boy out of any race as loves to win

4-1 is no giveaway on mine i was hoping for a max bet at 6-1+ and a slightly weaker race this is a decent contest


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
Aye. Looks a goodie.

Be lucky. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 09:59:56 PM
thanks and you

when you of?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 10:18:19 PM
Tomorrow. Back in time for Goodwood!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 10:20:28 PM
have a good time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 24, 2013, 09:20:47 PM
Compy's Arc light vs Adz's reset city tomorrow in the 4pm Beverley in a tight looking race.  I know Adz is on holiday,  but do you have any views on arc light chompy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 24, 2013, 09:26:50 PM
chompy is in Vegas

sure he will post any thoughts if he sees this though A



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 24, 2013, 09:28:37 PM
Ah ok, thanks for the headsup mate.  Any views yourself? I think at 15/2 arc light is a decent each way bet, however i know you aren't an each way backer yourself


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 28, 2013, 10:48:26 AM
sorry a missed that post


3.45 Muss today Burning Thread

Form figures awful but been poorly handicapped for a long time now, last semblance of any form was this time last year over this course and distance with a good 3rd. First time blinkers, lowest class race it has ever faced by a long way and this does not look a strong class 4 race. Bit risky but at 14-1 i have taken a small chance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 28, 2013, 12:39:30 PM
No worries and good luck with your selection.  I've had a small bet on it.  Also my only other one today is one you posted up before 'jiroft' in the 7:45 at Newcastle.  I see Hugh Taylor has picked another in the race in magical macey stating that any more rain and it'l be a good thing.  Jiroft has won on good and heavy before tho so I don't think it's too much of a worry.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 28, 2013, 01:37:02 PM
Burning Thread now non-runner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 28, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
Mister mananaman on my tracker and come up on phone. internet is too poor here to look at video form of others but big price in gosforth i see. worth watchin his last race, maybe worth a small ew, but hoped for a lesser race tbh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 28, 2013, 03:37:03 PM
No worries and good luck with your selection.  I've had a small bet on it.  Also my only other one today is one you posted up before 'jiroft' in the 7:45 at Newcastle.  I see Hugh Taylor has picked another in the race in magical macey stating that any more rain and it'l be a good thing.  Jiroft has won on good and heavy before tho so I don't think it's too much of a worry.

tweet from the owner mate

Jiroft takes his chance tonight. Originally expected him to be placed at worst. But this change of ground was not wanted & is a big unknown


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 28, 2013, 03:42:11 PM
No worries and good luck with your selection.  I've had a small bet on it.  Also my only other one today is one you posted up before 'jiroft' in the 7:45 at Newcastle.  I see Hugh Taylor has picked another in the race in magical macey stating that any more rain and it'l be a good thing.  Jiroft has won on good and heavy before tho so I don't think it's too much of a worry.

tweet from the owner mate

Jiroft takes his chance tonight. Originally expected him to be placed at worst. But this change of ground was not wanted & is a big unknown

bah, stupid rain! i have to let it ride and hope for the best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 28, 2013, 09:12:23 PM
No worries and good luck with your selection.  I've had a small bet on it.  Also my only other one today is one you posted up before 'jiroft' in the 7:45 at Newcastle.  I see Hugh Taylor has picked another in the race in magical macey stating that any more rain and it'l be a good thing.  Jiroft has won on good and heavy before tho so I don't think it's too much of a worry.

He knows his stuff I suppose!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 29, 2013, 07:24:45 PM
just put it up on tft

really like STORM KING at doncaster tonight

also in a smaller way like BEE JAY KAY at lingfield, slowly progressive for steps up in trip despite breeding suggesting otherwise. Still looked a bit green last time and should at the very least get a good trip from the front here, its a race full of lightly raced horses if one of them is well in it almost certainly wont win but at 16-1 im having a small bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on June 29, 2013, 07:51:02 PM
Good shout, I had Kakatosi, came 2nd, had a tip for it. Was slowly away but yours won by enough anyway. I should've done the forecast!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ForthThistle on June 29, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
WP Horsey.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 30, 2013, 12:01:42 PM
Just caught up with weekend racing and gutted/delighted to see Trading Leather win Irish Derby... My 200-1 bet on him to win our Derby, not quite so pleasing tho........ ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 08, 2013, 08:55:04 AM
excuse the spam but i am covering the oddschecker free tips section again for this week only

nearly had a good start yesterday hopefully can find a winner today

cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2013, 09:18:42 AM
excuse the spam but i am covering the oddschecker free tips section again for this week only

nearly had a good start yesterday hopefully can find a winner today

cheers

If you do half as well as you did last time you did the Oddschecker stuff, that'd be enough.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 11, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
Missed this, best of luck and how is it going so far horsey?

I've not been awake for most of the week (some may say for the last 20 years), so haven't bet on anything since getting home. Still, I am hoping that Newmarket can put a dent in the hole that Vegas created...

Fingers crossed the Messrs Linfoot, Taylor and Segal are on form!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 11, 2013, 10:52:06 AM
two seconds so far this week at 10-1 and 14-1 by a combined beaten distance of about 1/2 length and the rest have finished last :)

good luck if you have a bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 13, 2013, 06:28:34 PM
More than a little unlucky with your last selection on oddschecker today Horsey,  still loved the writeups that went with them this week .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 22, 2013, 06:44:22 PM
Very small word for Angus Glens in the next at Windsor (6.50)

Good each way heat, so maybe worth 5 bob ew at 25/1 or 20/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 22, 2013, 06:50:19 PM
More than a little unlucky with your last selection on oddschecker today Horsey,  still loved the writeups that went with them this week .

thanks Simon was one of those weeks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 22, 2013, 06:50:32 PM
good luck keith


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 22, 2013, 06:59:25 PM
Argh.

Slow away, but still looked likely to place a furlong out but just ran out of it.

Will win races over further and with a bit more experience under its belt.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 22, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
cracking run



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 23, 2013, 09:04:05 PM
Lutine Bell v big at 7-1 for the 8.05 at Sandown tomo evening.(Laddies)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 25, 2013, 08:48:03 PM
Pricewise has just given his antepost picks for the Ebor and St.Leger if anyone fancies a punt

Ebor

1pt Well Sharp @ 14/1

1pt Stencive   @ 12/1


St. Leger

1pt Excess Knowledge @ 20/1

1pt Nichols Canyon  @ 50/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2013, 12:32:49 PM
Been waiting for Captain Cat to surface this year, and told a few people to get involved, but a mate just sent me a quite compelling stat (used to love the stat stuff, but feel the juice gets sucked out of the prices now, as everybody has easy access)

basically Charlton at Goodwood

Backing his 3-5yo male handicap runners over 6f – 1m1f that are 14/1 or shorter would have given you 6 winners from 7 runners and a LSP of +£35.00. They finished: 1191111.

I shall be going in again!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 31, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
World and his wife seem to have a view on the first race. me too.

He may well win, but just cant have LC as fav.

My selection First Avenue get 3lb from him yet is 15lb superior over hurdles. A different event admittedly, but a factor. The wet ground has gone in FAs favour and he was a nearest at finish in the Queen Alexandra, a race in which many of the fancied horses here ran in.

This race has been his main target all year, and the fact he did me a massive favour in the Imperial Cup, has nothing to do with me fancying him again! ;whistle;

At 20/18s ew first 5, looks a great bet


EDIT. I think I shall gracefully retire from making suggestions on blonde.  :redcard:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 31, 2013, 08:20:41 PM
really like THORPE in the 8.35

has looked to need this trip both last starts personally i would have closer to the fav


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on July 31, 2013, 10:46:28 PM
World and his wife seem to have a view on the first race. me too.

He may well win, but just cant have LC as fav.

My selection First Avenue get 3lb from him yet is 15lb superior over hurdles. A different event admittedly, but a factor. The wet ground has gone in FAs favour and he was a nearest at finish in the Queen Alexandra, a race in which many of the fancied horses here ran in.

This race has been his main target all year, and the fact he did me a massive favour in the Imperial Cup, has nothing to do with me fancying him again! ;whistle;

At 20/18s ew first 5, looks a great bet


EDIT. I think I shall gracefully retire from making suggestions on blonde.  :redcard:

They say you should always end on a high, so you have to keep going, and when you give winning tips you'l want to carry on anyway!  In other words, keep them coming :) that goes for anyone else too who feels like posting.  If i was good enough/ clued up enough about horses i'd defo put some fancies up, as it is I rely on you, horsey and anyone else who is brave enough to put up their views.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2013, 04:09:24 PM
Sparrow please post any views/bets you have

You are shrewder than you give yourself credit for


I am told Radiator is very forward and smart and should win the maiden (4.20)

Very rare i bet in a maiden but the author of such news is somebody i respect

Just passing it on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on August 01, 2013, 06:38:21 PM
Will do, i am more of a researcher of tips than one for picking them myself.  Football season is back soon though, and thats where i find i do best and have more confidence.  I've only really been into horse racing over the past year or so, and i've really got into it recently. I love taking the william hill mobile offers, the only thing is , I don't think ive had a winner with any of the free bets i've had. 




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2013, 06:50:15 PM
i am not saying this applies to you but i have a friend who is obsessed with the hills free bets

All well and good but he then does not put any time into what he uses the free bets on themselves


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on August 01, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
I can honestly say it at least semi applies to me.  I try to follow fred as much as possible, i also look for decent priced bets and dont split them into each way bets (basically as Doobs suggested), however i guess i see them as a free shot, which they are.  But i should take more care into how i choose to use that free shot.  I'm also guilty of using them too quickly, rather than waiting for a decent bet to come up (within limit as I think they expire after 7 days).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2013, 08:38:54 PM
dont be to hard on yourself we all make mistakes



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 04, 2013, 04:48:31 PM
Angus McNae and Mark Johnson just agreed that French Ties is 'an honest sort'...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 25, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
fancy a few today

      Balmoral Castle       3.55 Goodwood
                       6/1      
      Maybeme       4.05 Beverley
            10/1      
                Running Deer    4.50 Yarmouth
                       7/2      

sorry no time for reasoning


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 25, 2013, 03:49:35 PM
fancy a few today

      Balmoral Castle       3.55 Goodwood
                       6/1      
      Maybeme       4.05 Beverley
            10/1      
                Running Deer    4.50 Yarmouth
                       7/2      

sorry no time for reasoning

You are opposing HECTOR'S CHANCE? (3.55 Gooders).

:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
A very well handicapped horse in the 2.00 at Carlisle today.

Top weight Kuanyao.

Was useful reliable horse with Peter Makin and has shown little for Dandy Nicholls so far, but shown glimmers of form in recent runs and probably been teed up for something. Last and pretty much only time he ran on an uphill finish, like todays, he won at Newmarket

Normally avoid amateur races like this, but I have watched several vids of the jockey and he seems more compatant than most of these, and I think 8-1 is a nice little ew oppo in a race that wont take much winning.

Worth a little interest


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 12:36:31 PM
good luck adz

Tough race the fav should win (somehow beat the bent easterby thing last time when it was 15lbs at least well in) but the jockey has looked very poor so far (only 3 rides so far)

She works for the stable so screams a little bit to me of trying to get her up and running. Silly Billy responds to plenty of driving not really a great traveller but game not sure she will suit him.

Having said that he is still well in based on that last win.

Like Nicholls in these type of races just seems to be on a general decline as a trainer these days


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 12:44:47 PM
More worried about Lothair tbh. Sangster seems half decent and been some money for it, plus similar winning profile on uphill finishes.

Fingers crossed. Not a major investment and would be happier to see some late cash.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 12:51:40 PM
Get the impression DN is a real party animal. I suspect each winner signals a good party and results in taking the eye of the ball a little. I reckon he still has it, but I expect he needs this sort of barren spell to re-energise and refocus over the next few years.

He is too good and too shrewd to just lose it this quick, IMO


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 12:59:18 PM
17117

Hab Reeh record in amateur riders' races

Also won last 3 times after a run within 10 days

This race looks more of a minefield the more i look

wish you luck adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 01:03:49 PM
You're not wrong...half the fun tho!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 28, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
A very well handicapped horse in the 2.00 at Carlisle today.

Top weight Kuanyao.

Was useful reliable horse with Peter Makin and has shown little for Dandy Nicholls so far, but shown glimmers of form in recent runs and probably been teed up for something. Last and pretty much only time he ran on an uphill finish, like todays, he won at Newmarket

Normally avoid amateur races like this, but I have watched several vids of the jockey and he seems more compatant than most of these, and I think 8-1 is a nice little ew oppo in a race that wont take much winning.

Worth a little interest

Like someone thats prepared to stick their neck out

Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 28, 2013, 02:08:23 PM

Second

Good call, unlucky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 02:08:37 PM
forecast adz

well done shame not other way round


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 28, 2013, 02:09:44 PM

ul I had a bit on in running when it got away well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
Got the right two, wrong order.

The cast should pay ok tho...!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 02:10:56 PM
the third is still well in i think hardly an inspired ride could barely steer it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:12:09 PM
Have backed Imperial Bond small at 16-1 last at southwell

very winnable race, improved from a very low base since joining Ward who is doing well with not a lot of ammo. Sire does quite well here major doubt is the mile (sire poor over a mile) but Ward must think it needs it hardly needs to protect its mark

Saved on throwing roses who won well last time again has good sire stats here and should be clear fav

good luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:20:58 PM
also backed Hunting ground in the 7.20 at 13-2

street cry out of a dual g1 winner on dirt, up against two horses out of sadler's wells mares

simple really the switch from the boys in blue to mj is usually a + and mj is 5-9 in older age maidens here



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 07:34:55 PM
Bit late to take that advice there Horsey...N1 tho

GL with the one in the last. Normally switched off by then if nothing stands out, but just looked and notice just how far Smokey Oakey has fallen. As a Lincoln winner it must surely be showing something at home for them not to have retired him.

Callan booked is the best jockey booking for almost a year and he has fallen over 20lbs. Back over fav distance too. As an aside,  last time Callan rode him was 7 years ago.lol

Cant resist a sneaky bet now you have flagged it up. GL



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:36:55 PM
Five minutes before off only looked at race late sorry

Yes amazing to see that

Im sure Tompkins still thinks it will win another group race

Interviewed yesterday on RUK amazingly he has attracted more owners, must talk a good game

gd lk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 07:41:01 PM
For him to have attracted more owners he must have married his kids off to very rich folk.lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:42:56 PM
As far as im aware he pretty much breeds all his stock from his existing line

No idea why when the majority are not very good



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 07:49:47 PM
Used to have a couple I used to follow that never quite managed what they should have but at one time or another landed a decent punt on both Steenburg and Brushing. Probably his last winner....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:51:07 PM
missed the kempton card earlier

Like Sohar in the 8.20

still a maiden but it's not done much wrong/had much chance for over a year.  

ran well behind john louis, outclassed in listed company.  then the key run, 2nd to ardlui, looked all over the winner, just got outstayed but think on that evidence an easy 2m should be ideal.  needed first run, didn't stay at ascot but ran fine.  was facing the wrong way at the start last time and had no chance.
ardlui won again, they were 9 clear of lieutenant miller a very strong looking form line

its a cracking staying race but 8-1 is a smidgen big i think


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 07:58:35 PM
Some performance there, or more likely shows how bad the rest are, to give that start away and win so easy from so wide.

Smokey hated the kickback........and racing...lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 08:49:36 PM
never again with sohar utterly tripless


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 29, 2013, 08:09:57 PM
Sir Reginald ew

3.00 Chester. One of those horses that keeps catching my eye. Had a nice break. Well drawn, and Fahey remains in cracking form.

10 with PP and 365 looks mighty big as Laddies are 13/2.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 30, 2013, 10:01:14 AM
Interesting bit of bookmaking here

Sir Reg now into a general 7-1 yet Laddies have moved to market leader at a stand out 8-1!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 30, 2013, 03:05:56 PM
11-2. Value..... please let me eat it!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 30, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
Holy moly.

Typical Chester shocker ride. Still, small profit again. One day soon will eat a full slice of the Value Pie


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 30, 2013, 03:09:16 PM
unlucky Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 30, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
Just watched it back now,  unlucky m8 :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 30, 2013, 04:08:58 PM
ul adz

had a small bet EXCLUSION at 5-1 in the 7.00 southwell

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on August 30, 2013, 04:15:56 PM
ul adz

had a small bet EXCLUSION at 5-1 in the 7.00 southwell

gd lk all
I shall be having a small wager on town mouse in this race as they have been messing about with it.

What about having racing on Good Friday? What a bad idea that is.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 31, 2013, 08:20:55 AM
Been waiting almost a year to see this horse back at 5f, and finally get it today in the Beverley bullet.

Baileys jubilee showed fantastic speed last year and I was surprised they started the year over 7f. Not seen since, it has the draw and a long absence to overcome, but if it shows the speed it did last year, it has to be a player vs this modest bunch.

I think there is still some 20s on Betty. Don't go mad, but hopeful nonetheless. Gl


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 31, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
Silly me. Blind optimism that he could overcome that ridic draw was misplaced

Once again we see another Frank Spencer pearler.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on August 31, 2013, 04:05:42 PM
[quote Once again we see another Frank Spencer pearler.
[/quote]

lol was a head in hands typical spencer effort, wp sir!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 01, 2013, 10:31:17 AM
Dance and dance surely massive at tens. Curragh 4.45.gl


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 01, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
Dance and dance surely massive at tens. Curragh 4.45.gl

On already, got on last night, (thanks to a good friend) but where are you getting 10/1 Adz?


http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/curragh/16:45/winner



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 01, 2013, 10:52:42 AM
Betfred last nite and on phone about 10 mins ago


Edit. I may have moved the market ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 01, 2013, 10:56:27 AM
Betfred last nite and on phone about 10 mins ago

Wow, well done you.

I got 9/1 last night & early (2am) this morning, but never saw any 10/1. Betfair were 9/1 (WIN) at the time, & just over 2/1 the place, first three only.

I wanted to get a bit more on this morning, & logged onto Oddschecker at around 7am, it was 8/1 best then. You did well.

Good luck anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 01, 2013, 11:09:06 AM
We both missed out. Looking at the graph on Oddschecker and Coral had him at 12s for a while.

GL us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 01, 2013, 11:11:05 AM
We both missed out. Looking at the graph on Oddschecker and Coral had him at 12s for a while.

GL us!

Bugger.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 01, 2013, 05:23:38 PM
Not sure that horse will ever win again if they keep dropping him out 30 lengths behind the pacesetters....hurumph


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 06, 2013, 01:16:44 PM
Like two in the same race today have backed them both win only

Had more on THE QUARTERJACK 5.20 CHEPSTOW at 16/1

Ground was too fast last time and probably doesn't like windsor, 2/2 left-handed bend on soft down in class a bit to. Enough positives for the price

Smaller bet on AFRO at 14/1

still unexposed excuses last time trainer in form last week and had a few backed at big odds

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 07, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
Pallasator wins the Ces imo if it's on the slow side. That was some comeback effort today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 07, 2013, 08:45:07 PM
Pallasator wins the Ces imo if it's on the slow side. That was some comeback effort today.

Tigerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on September 09, 2013, 03:51:47 PM
ul adz

had a small bet EXCLUSION at 5-1 in the 7.00 southwell

gd lk all
I shall be having a small wager on town mouse in this race as they have been messing about with it.

What about having racing on Good Friday? What a bad idea that is.
Hmmmm. The fkr just won at 50/1 and I never spotted it today. Doh!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 09, 2013, 03:54:24 PM
knew the horse rang a bell for some reason

ul sir


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MahoganyVic on September 10, 2013, 01:01:13 PM
Got an email fromt he tote today saying its the biggest ever rollover on the pick 6 at Galway. Worth a shot? Any tips? :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 10, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
Like SPATS COLOMBO in the 5.00 at Redcar today at around 7/1

Progressive from a low level, main angle is the sire is a lot better on soft/heavy than anything else.

Should improve for the ground if it doesnt still has a chance fav look to short to me and not particularly worried about anything else in there.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 10, 2013, 05:10:48 PM
Like SPATS COLOMBO in the 5.00 at Redcar today at around 7/1

Progressive from a low level, main angle is the sire is a lot better on soft/heavy than anything else.

Should improve for the ground if it doesnt still has a chance fav look to short to me and not particularly worried about anything else in there.



PU something wrong there


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 10, 2013, 08:34:29 PM
Like SPATS COLOMBO in the 5.00 at Redcar today at around 7/1

Progressive from a low level, main angle is the sire is a lot better on soft/heavy than anything else.

Should improve for the ground if it doesnt still has a chance fav look to short to me and not particularly worried about anything else in there.



I backed this too Horse, the only good thing is if I had seen your post before the race I would probably have had more on. I hope it was ok.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 11, 2013, 08:43:44 AM
Like SPATS COLOMBO in the 5.00 at Redcar today at around 7/1

Progressive from a low level, main angle is the sire is a lot better on soft/heavy than anything else.

Should improve for the ground if it doesnt still has a chance fav look to short to me and not particularly worried about anything else in there.



I backed this too Horse, the only good thing is if I had seen your post before the race I would probably have had more on. I hope it was ok.



Yes me to did not look great :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 12, 2013, 10:06:43 PM
Want to put up a horse for discussion and hopefully get some views from more knowledgeable horse punters than myself.  I browse other sports betting forums and came across some strong support for Noble protector in the 4:50 at sandown tomorrow.  To paraphrase, won last time out very well, second won next time out, best prices 4/1 but only 9/4 with willhill, the WH price is beleived to be closer to the true price, good draw.

Obviously its unexposed as it is only its third run tomorrow, a new jockey in Queally is a positive to my eyes, up in class from its maiden, and also the horse who finished second in its last race than then went on to win only won a class 5, this is a class 4.  Won at this distance.

Personally I think tht 4/1 is a bit too big, im not convinced it is a 9/4 shot either though.  Anyway i've backed it, im not trying to pursuade others to back it just yet, considering it's not fully my own view.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 13, 2013, 09:41:16 AM
got the best price anyway mate

looks a more than fair mark based on that maiden win to me think the handicapper has been pretty lenient with the mark maybe because it is a smaller trainer?

anyway good luck hope it wins for you



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 13, 2013, 12:04:42 PM
Not shortened as much as i thought due to a couple of others in the field shortening.  I guess there may be concerns over the ground, also being upped in class. Still i remain fairly positive and if i don't like it so much nearer the time and the price remains similar to now i can always lay it off. 

Also had a go on orpsie boy in the last at wolves, followed him for awhile (to my expense) but his mark keeps going down, pretty sure its going to pop up sometime soon, hopefully today will be the day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 13, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 13, 2013, 11:06:54 PM
Half interested in Milly's Gift at Bath (5.40) tomorrow. And very interested if there's any money around.

She hasn't done anything like as well in three turf starts as on the AW but fast ground probably wouldn't have suited and this is a much easier race. Cox has two in the race and Ryan Tate rides this one. Worth a look in the morning.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 13, 2013, 11:21:44 PM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.

Was first under pressure then stayed on to look half dangerous before plodding on to finish mid div

Probably the ground and there is something there i think worth another go on a sounder surface if a fair price


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 13, 2013, 11:40:07 PM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.

Was first under pressure then stayed on to look half dangerous before plodding on to finish mid div

Probably the ground and there is something there i think worth another go on a sounder surface if a fair price

Agreed, didn't have an ideal draw tonight either out in stall 10, i got on it at 10s and i think it went off around 5/1 so there was some support for it.  I dont see it being a huge price if it runs in the same type of race but i think it  has a win in it on this mark fairly soon.

So far on mr impatient tomorrow, well supported last time and likes soft ground, bit of money around for it today too it seems.

Will check on chompy's selection in the morning, and if anyone else has some some fancies we could try and get this thread going again.

If anyone can figure out the 2:40 at doncaster then please post. A few bookies going top 5 1/4 odds which has to be good if you can get top price with them on a decent horse.  I remember reading that Monsieur Chevalier used to have some useful form but hasnt been at his best lately after a break and could be a big sweat.  Other than that I quite like both the Omeara horses and i also beleive huge taylor put up magical macey previously on the basis it likes soft ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 13, 2013, 11:47:41 PM
Pricewise put up Doc Hay  @ 12-11/1 and Angels Will Fall @ 25/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 13, 2013, 11:56:52 PM
Pricewise put up Doc Hay  @ 12-11/1 and Angels Will Fall @ 25/1

Fair bit of support for both I see, prob have to throw a couple darts at this race and hope to hit! Looks like Doc hay is the most likely of the omeara two then, backed up with having tudhope on it.

Undecided on monsieur chevalier, won some class 1s back in the day, down to a mark of 96 and was rated as high at 115.  Doesn't seem like a positive jockey booking though and the draw isn't ideal.  Likes the going and the distance though.  Maybe best watched tomorrow but could be one for the tracker.

Edit: just read on the RP that Ogorman has a 40% strike rate with horses wearing blinkers for the first time, assume he is wearing blinkers for the first time or i'm not sure what they would have put that stat up!  Talking myself into it here abit lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 12:01:31 AM
Pricewise put up Doc Hay  @ 12-11/1 and Angels Will Fall @ 25/1

Fair bit of support for both I see, prob have to throw a couple darts at this race and hope to hit! Looks like Doc hay is the most likely of the omeara two then, backed up with having tudhope on it.

Undecided on monsieur chevalier, won some class 1s back in the day, down to a mark of 96 and was rated as high at 115.  Doesn't seem like a positive jockey booking though and the draw isn't ideal.  Likes the going and the distance though.  Maybe best watched tomorrow but could be one for the tracker.

Anything he puts up gets hammered, not without good reason though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 14, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
id pay so much just to watch and listen to him go through a race


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 12:46:04 AM
id pay so much just to watch and listen to him go through a race

Best part of paying for the tipping in the RP is anything he posts/talks on.

FWIW he put your Leger pick up ante post.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 10:57:33 AM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.



Made for a good day for me and Marky....drift to tens was heaven sent ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 11:05:59 AM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not.  

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.



Made for a good day for me and Marky....drift to tens was heaven sent ;bigadz;

Good would have been nice, but I was quite happy to be saved from the disaster that was Channel 4 Racing


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 11:09:23 AM
The way Jim McGrath had poured scorn on its chances, I had already written it off. I suppose that's the owner's prerogative though, low expectations mean no disappointments...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 11:09:56 AM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.



Made for a good day for me and Marky....drift to tens was heaven sent ;bigadz;

Completely forgot about it, only noticed when i was browsing the results once i got in :(

Had a little play on Red Jazz, guy i follow pointed out he has form figures of 1212123 on ground good or softer and he felt 25s was over priced, at the time it beat betfair so i followed him in. (Doncaster 3:15)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 11:17:39 AM
The way Jim McGrath had poured scorn on its chances, I had already written it off. I suppose that's the owner's prerogative though, low expectations mean no disappointments...

I saw the post race stuff, and could not believe my ears. Fahey has always said that it has poor feet and sting out of the ground had to help it. Would be the first time JMac put us away on his own horses chances tho.

Whilst we are on about cliff horses, Al Muheer has perfect conditions at Chester today, and hopefully Elusivity will finally deliver in the Portland over what looks a perfect trip.

Be lucky chaps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 14, 2013, 11:26:37 AM
Does anyone have a view on the draw in the Portland, or Confessional's chances?

Easterby seems to have done a good job of getting down from a mark of 106 and then had to win a race it was pretty well backed for last week off 94 to get in here. Runs off 100 today but a view on the draw would be most welcome.

thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 12:00:07 PM
Half interested in Milly's Gift at Bath (5.40) tomorrow. And very interested if there's any money around.

She hasn't done anything like as well in three turf starts as on the AW but fast ground probably wouldn't have suited and this is a much easier race. Cox has two in the race and Ryan Tate rides this one. Worth a look in the morning.

Looks like the price is slowly shortening, enough money to make you very interested or not mate?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 12:03:44 PM
Does anyone have a view on the draw in the Portland, or Confessional's chances?

Easterby seems to have done a good job of getting down from a mark of 106 and then had to win a race it was pretty well backed for last week off 94 to get in here. Runs off 100 today but a view on the draw would be most welcome.

thanks

Seems the draw bias is towards the higer number stalls.  No real view on confessional though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 14, 2013, 12:11:51 PM
Does anyone have a view on the draw in the Portland, or Confessional's chances?

Easterby seems to have done a good job of getting down from a mark of 106 and then had to win a race it was pretty well backed for last week off 94 to get in here. Runs off 100 today but a view on the draw would be most welcome.

thanks

Seems the draw bias is towards the higer number stalls.  No real view on confessional though.

thanks mate,  haven't seen a race all week there as I am away so a  pity the draw might be no good. Will have a smaller bet instead.

cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 12:12:45 PM
He certainly didnt win out of turn last week, and turned the race into a procession. Sometimes a win is all they need to go on a roll. If I was at the wedding last week, I would reinvest for sure, but I missed that so wont be on him this week.

From a pace angle, Bogart sure to be up there from 7. It always feels like something swoops from the wings in these massive fields but much of the field are finishers so it may play out differently, with a lurker like Confessional able to kick away before the rest get into gear...and each others way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 14, 2013, 12:32:43 PM
ive been backing leading light all week in the st leger only bits and bobs , i dont think hes the most talented animal to come out of o,brien's yard but ive got a sneaking suspicion he could be one of the toughest , a rounded action and plenty of heart is enough for me to have a bet ... posting really to say all his races are on atr and going through them has been an education in how to bring a horse on , hes obvs out paced in his 1st run under heffernan and gets pushed along every yard of the 1m 1f by manning on his maiden win when only his stamina really comes through at the end to win going away , as a 3yr old o briens lad takes the reins and teaches him to front run , the horse enjoys this , so he slows it to a near stop and then quickens away again for an easy win after these lessons he goes on to grp races and harder oppos and outbattles the others to win,eye opening way to teach a horse about almost every situation hes gonna face in his races. He might not win today but iv quite enjoyed tracking his progress


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 12:43:26 PM
Half interested in Milly's Gift at Bath (5.40) tomorrow. And very interested if there's any money around.

She hasn't done anything like as well in three turf starts as on the AW but fast ground probably wouldn't have suited and this is a much easier race. Cox has two in the race and Ryan Tate rides this one. Worth a look in the morning.

See there has been a few nibbles today, what you thinking Chomps?



Think Ali mentioned Mister Impatience a while back on here?

He is Paul Kealy's pricewise extra selection today

When last running on this track he sauntered away with a handicap on the opening day of the season on soft ground, and it's somewhat of a surprise that he didn't go on from that.

That said, he was second to subsequent Derby winner Rule Of The World at Chester over this trip and fourth in the Queen's Vase, but for most of the summer he has been racing on the wrong ground.

Despite the official description last time at York, the ground was nearer good than soft and Mister Impatience will love conditions today.

This is some way weaker than the Melrose he ran in last time and he gets a handy 9lb weight for age allowance from some fully exposed older horses. The danger could be one-time Derby fancy Greatwood, but to geld a horse who had such high aspirations only a few months ago smacks of desperation.


Put up at 6/1 and there is still a bit of 5/1 about.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
Backed mr impatient last night at 13/2 :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2013, 12:52:31 PM
Good day today

Already backed mr red clubs last night as per tft

Like AJJAADD in the portland and a rare occasion when Hugh can put a horse up and its price drifts or at least stays the same

Personally i would have the horse close to fav really like the claimer booked as well. Been trying to cut out backing in these kind of events so only a small bet at 14-1



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 12:56:04 PM
Backed mr impatient last night at 13/2 :)

Good luck us ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 01:03:23 PM
Backed mr impatient last night at 13/2 :)

Good luck us ;D

Yes indeed, today is starting to get a little out of hand, think it might be time to get ouso i can't add to my portfolio of bets todays lol



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
Good day today

Already backed mr red clubs last night as per tft

Like AJJAADD in the portland and a rare occasion when Hugh can put a horse up and its price drifts or at least stays the same

Personally i would have the horse close to fav really like the claimer booked as well. Been trying to cut out backing in these kind of events so only a small bet at 14-1




Might have a little save on him.

Ted Powell bought this horse in 2009 with this race as the objective, having won it a couple of times in the past as an owner. Last year missed out by 1 when missing the cut and been its objective all year. Decent form to boot


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 14, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
I'm on Ancient Cross at a big price today. Would be nice.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 14, 2013, 02:40:18 PM

I've taken the view that there's a bit more pace amongst the low numbers in the portland - so I've gone for burwaaz and confessional ew 5 places.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 14, 2013, 02:45:17 PM
I got on Milly's Gift last night. Nice steady nibbling today. Definitely like her.

No draw bias in the Portland.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 14, 2013, 02:45:50 PM
In the Portland, I seem to be on......

Confessional

Aajjaadd

Doc Hay

Secret Witness.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 14, 2013, 02:52:41 PM

No draw bias in the Portland.

pity the jocks didn't think that  ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 02:54:23 PM
Pricewise gets up, hope you got some marky!

Same trainer as Red jazz in the next, 365 still hold 25/1 which beats betfair.  Hopefully get a decent sweat for my money in that one, MC didn't break well in the last so that was no fun to watch for me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 03:15:10 PM
Pricewise gets up, hope you got some marky!

Same trainer as Red jazz in the next, 365 still hold 25/1 which beats betfair.  Hopefully get a decent sweat for my money in that one, MC didn't break well in the last so that was no fun to watch for me

F5ing at 1950 on a Friday, so I get them as soon as they're posted :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 03:27:38 PM
Could be much less profitable uses of your time on a friday night! 

Red jazz dissapointing after some market support.  Thats my two long shots out the way anyway, hopefully reddie steady bets pick in the st ledger does the job.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 03:31:59 PM
Could be much less profitable uses of your time on a friday night! 

Red jazz dissapointing after some market support.  Thats my two long shots out the way anyway, hopefully reddie steady bets pick in the st ledger does the job.

Be a perfect end to the televised racing if he does, Segal banged him up at 20s back in July :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
I think Chompy is actually my hero, everything i back of his turns to gold! 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Dewi_cool on September 14, 2013, 05:48:55 PM
ty ty Mr Chompy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 14, 2013, 05:49:24 PM
Incred scenes!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 05:50:27 PM
Just bigged you up on wrong thread.

Star man ;tightend;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 05:51:08 PM
Oioi Chomps  ;tightend;

The pain of Excess Knowledge erased immediately!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on September 14, 2013, 05:53:02 PM
I think Chompy is actually my hero, everything i back of his turns to gold! 

I have a laminated picture of him for special occasions like now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
I think Chompy is actually my hero, everything i back of his turns to gold! 

I have a laminated picture of him for special occasions like now.


Dare I ask why its laminated?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2013, 05:58:10 PM
ty ty Mr Chompy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 08:42:14 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 14, 2013, 08:45:13 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1

You really ought to get your own bets on before posting those. Oh, wait.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 15, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
magic stuff with the beast at Bath Chompy.

great stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2013, 12:46:34 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1

You really ought to get your own bets on before posting those. Oh, wait.....

Hopefully sharing will get me some karma points :)


Also, does anyone know a way to watch the racing at Longchamp?

I don't have access to ATR on Sky and the 'Bet & Watch' isn't available for these races.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on September 15, 2013, 12:50:08 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1

You really ought to get your own bets on before posting those. Oh, wait.....

Hopefully sharing will get me some karma points :)


Also, does anyone know a way to watch the racing at Longchamp?

I don't have access to ATR on Sky and the 'Bet & Watch' isn't available for these races.
http://tykestv.eu/streams/horse-racing/at-the-races/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2013, 01:01:02 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1

You really ought to get your own bets on before posting those. Oh, wait.....

Hopefully sharing will get me some karma points :)


Also, does anyone know a way to watch the racing at Longchamp?

I don't have access to ATR on Sky and the 'Bet & Watch' isn't available for these races.
http://tykestv.eu/streams/horse-racing/at-the-races/

Ha, I use tykes for ATR/RUK during the week and they're normally very good.

They're rarely on at weekends though and today it is down too unfortunately.

I'll just have to wait for the ATR replays to upload to the site, they're normally pretty quick anyway, thanks m8.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on September 15, 2013, 01:06:14 PM
 Yeah it seems to be off more than its on at weekends and evening meetings.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2013, 01:38:18 PM
Yeah it seems to be off more than its on at weekends and evening meetings.



Can't complain at a free service, but it does grate when the channel switches halfway through the last race at a day meeting, and leaves some random football match on :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 15, 2013, 03:51:49 PM
tough crowd ..... getting it quietly :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 15, 2013, 03:57:04 PM
tough crowd ..... getting it quietly :)

Meant to congratulate you on your pick yesterday but clean forgot.  Loved the write up and the effort you put into tracking the horse, please keep them coming :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 15, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
tough crowd ..... getting it quietly :)


well done mate, lovely winner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
tough crowd ..... getting it quietly :)

Remembered someone here was on that horse, but thought it was Tikay after they posted in Fred, congratulations on a nice scoop!

I was gutted by the fact that Excess Knowledge ran more like the 20/1 shot that I backed him at, and that my smaller bet on Talent suffered a ride through the bumper cars on his run at LL...

Don't think it would have mattered, but it's par for the course to feel a bit sorry for yourself :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 19, 2013, 11:23:14 AM
Know that a few here aren't too fond of Mr Spencer, it seems Luca Cumani isn't either...

http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1379541031.mp3


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 19, 2013, 11:33:44 AM
Know that a few here aren't too fond of Mr Spencer, it seems Luca Cumani isn't either...

http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1379541031.mp3


LOL. Best news for ages was hearing that Frank wont be on Mt Athos in the Melbourne Cup.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on September 19, 2013, 11:38:34 AM
Know that a few here aren't too fond of Mr Spencer, it seems Luca Cumani isn't either...

http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1379541031.mp3

How on earth did you find this Mark?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 19, 2013, 12:27:51 PM
Know that a few here aren't too fond of Mr Spencer, it seems Luca Cumani isn't either...

http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1379541031.mp3

How on earth did you find this Mark?

Someone tweeted the link to Hugh Taylor while I was waiting for the 5 minute warning this morning.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 21, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
Dear punting gods, please let Mass Rally win the big race.

Yours expectantly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 21, 2013, 04:11:04 PM
Roll on the jumps season... that ride on saxo jack wouldve made Spencer proud.....grumble grumble


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 21, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
Roll on the jumps season... that ride on saxo jack wouldve made Spencer proud.....grumble grumble


 :redcard:


Careful. Spencer bashing police will be after you :tikay:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 21, 2013, 04:41:29 PM
Roll on the jumps season... that ride on saxo jack wouldve made Spencer proud.....grumble grumble

That and Hoku about summed my day up :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 26, 2013, 11:21:08 AM

26th September 2013
 
A Sky Bet punter was celebrating a £52,000 pay-out from a 25p each-way Lucky 31 at Redcar on Wednesday.

Beau Mistral (5/1) set the ball rolling when landing the Download The Racing UK App Handicap at 3.50 and 35 minutes later Ebony Express duly obliged at 8/1.

Auto Mac (12/1) was next up in the Racing Replay, All today's Racing Sky 432 Selling Stakes and when 20/1 pick Mercer's Row landed the first division on the Two Year Old Trophy Comes Next Handicap then the Leeds-based firm were running for cover.

There was nowhere to hide though and Lees Anthem's success in the second division at 6.05 sparked the huge pay-out.

Sky Bet Racing PR Manager Michael Shinners said: "Sometimes you have to doff your cap to a punter. To find those five winners at Redcar was a remarkable effort and while there were plenty of heads in hands in our trading room after Lees Anthem's success, I'm sure there were wild celebrations elsewhere!"



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 26, 2013, 11:27:32 AM
Read that this morning on the Sporting Life website, fair play to him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 26, 2013, 11:41:17 AM
Read that this morning on the Sporting Life website, fair play to him.

How on earth do they pick those 5 out?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 27, 2013, 08:12:52 PM
Read that this morning on the Sporting Life website, fair play to him.

How on earth do they pick those 5 out?

Sorry, missed this yesterday. I'm guessing he borrowed Tal's spider :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 27, 2013, 08:13:10 PM
Pricewise horses tomorrow are -

15:30 Hay - Demora (Paul Kealy's NAP too)

15:50 New - Educate and King George River


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 28, 2013, 02:31:41 PM
Like a few today backed them all most on Good Speech as per tft

Think Suegioo is overpriced today against some confirmed hold-up horses.  He's been held up himself the last twice, but it hasn't suited him and I fully expect Martin Harley to make more use of him today (he gave him a prominent ride the last time he rode him, and he has made the running this season).  Still think he's well handicapped and can gain a deserved win with the right ride if held up early i hate the bet

Good Speech has some excellent form to her name in 3-year-old handicaps, and can hopefully return to winning ways now she's back in against old horses.  72 under-rates her and the return to better ground will suit having looked to be hating every minute of the soft ground last time, running remarkably well in the circumstances in a better race under a poor ride.  She goes well here, is well drawn and should get the strongly-run 12f she needs - bold but i really expect her to win.

Have to back Vicky Valentine at 18/1+ at Chester tonight.  Lightly-raced, she won well enough last time and has proven herself in tactical affairs in small fields.  Edwyn Ralph was disappointing on his only start here, Eton Rambler might not settle off a slow early pace here and Gabrial The Master looks exposed.  Duke Of Yorkshire should be well suited by the demands of this contest too and looks worth a bet too, albeit at slightly less glamorous odds of 5/1.

Finally, Bantam paid the price for chasing an overly-strong pace set by Astonishing, but she showed how good she was the other day and there's no shame in that run.  She remains progressive and this track should suit her, unlike last time when she didn't look happy running downhill.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 28, 2013, 03:45:57 PM

I seem to have backed half the field in the Cambridgeshire, one way & another.

Red Avenger

Belgian Bill

Prince of Johanne

Seek Again

Dance & Dance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 28, 2013, 04:05:01 PM

I seem to have backed half the field in the Cambridgeshire, one way & another.

Red Avenger

Belgian Bill

Prince of Johanne

Seek Again

Dance & Dance.


Easy game........

The Bookies took a right pasting on that, for sure.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 28, 2013, 04:18:47 PM
Pricewise horses tomorrow are -

15:30 Hay - Demora (Paul Kealy's NAP too)

15:50 New - Educate and King George River

They took a pasting on those two, hope some Blondes got on!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 29, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
Nero Emperor in 6f race at Curragh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 12:24:17 PM
Thanks mate, one from your tracker?  Whilst i went to oddschecker to find it, i saw one i had to bet on in the first 'sparrow' - after cockney sparrow did the job last weekend, this is must be a cert lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on September 29, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
i dont know much about horses but while trying too get my ew lucky 15 on including sweet helena in the 16:30 at epsom today her price went from 15.0 into 7.5 in a matter on minutes

still some places offering 13.0 but price dropping on all the bookies according too oddschecker betfair price is 11.0

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/epsom/16:30/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 12:35:59 PM
i dont know much about horses but while trying too get my ew lucky 15 on including sweet helena in the 16:30 at epsom today her price went from 15.0 into 7.5 in a matter on minutes

still some places offering 13.0 but price dropping on all the bookies according too oddschecker betfair price is 11.0

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/epsom/16:30/winner

Alll i know about Espom from some help Redarmi and Chompy gave me awhile back is that it suits a specific type of running, got to grab the rail and go from the front for the best chance.  Especially suits horses who have won at the track before and know how to ride it.  If you search Xinbama (running today in that race funnily enough) you should find the replies from the two shrewdies mentioned above which could be helpful in picking out horses at Epsom when you do your research.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 29, 2013, 03:58:28 PM
Nero Emperor in 6f race at Curragh

 ;woohoo;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on September 29, 2013, 04:11:41 PM
sweet helena odds are still baffling me difted to 13.5 on betfair but into 6.0 on 365 and at 13.0 on stan james
havent see odds so wide on a single horse before

that is another question who decides what the starting price is ?
ia it an average of all the major bookmakers ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 04:33:01 PM
Nero Emperor in 6f race at Curragh

 ;woohoo;


Booom, what a legend you are ! Cheers mate :) keep posting!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 04:35:49 PM
Xinbama at 22s or brockleback at 12d for the great escape this weekend now after adz's, unfortunately missed Markys posts yday :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 04:41:34 PM
Oisin comes up trumps again! Some boy he is


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 29, 2013, 06:19:20 PM
Nero Emperor in 6f race at Curragh

 ;woohoo;


Booom, what a legend you are ! Cheers mate :) keep posting!


Good lad. Glad someone got a bit. ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
haha certainly did, made up for my useless picks! Sparrow got second earlier, shame he wasn't quite good enough to do the business. Now your horse has given me some back, ive whacked it all back on channings NFL, last chance weekend getout!  If only i had done the 3 horses marky and yourself posted :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 04, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
Pricewise horses for tomorrow...

Ascot

14:40 - Gospel Choir @ 6/1

15:50 - Ascription @ 8/1
           Shamaal Nibras @ 25/1


Redcar

15:30 - Trading Profit @ 9/1
            Omaha Gold @ 33/1


Longchamp

13:30 - Darbadar @ 6/1

14:08 - Siyenica  @ 14/1



1pt win advised for all selections



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 09, 2013, 10:08:23 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 10, 2013, 01:20:52 PM
good luck adz

been nibbling away at a couple in the ces at the weekend

Old "friend" Brockwell is still fair value at 20's rarely runs a bad race looks big at nearly double price of oriental fox

Have backed Sohar at 50's today (Skybet going 5 places if you can) had excuses last twice not convinced it can win this but best career run over this course looks well handicapped from 80.

Will also add Moidore if rain looks like arriving friday evening, has no chance on good or quicker ground as is just a grinder but is well handicapped on earlier season form with a few near the top of the market


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2013, 01:38:08 PM
8/1 looking tidy now Adz!

good luck adz

been nibbling away at a couple in the ces at the weekend

Old "friend" Brockwell is still fair value at 20's rarely runs a bad race looks big at nearly double price of oriental fox

Have backed Sohar at 50's today (Skybet going 5 places if you can) had excuses last twice not convinced it can win this but best career run over this course looks well handicapped from 80.

Will also add Moidore if rain looks like arriving friday evening, has no chance on good or quicker ground as is just a grinder but is well handicapped on earlier season form with a few near the top of the market

Ben Hutton from the RP put up Sohar as an EW selection himself, along with Poyle Thomas too.

Anyone that doesn't have a Sky account can get 50/1 5 places with BMU


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 10, 2013, 02:51:23 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.





One out of two acceptable. Shed well punted too.

Tad lost before it started, as ground had dried out, and price reflected that.

Profit though for those that follow!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 10, 2013, 03:46:12 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.





One out of two acceptable. Shed well punted too.

Tad lost before it started, as ground had dried out, and price reflected that.

Profit though for those that follow!!

Couple of those a week wouldn't go a miss, thanks very much Adz.  ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on October 10, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.





One out of two acceptable. Shed well punted too.

Tad lost before it started, as ground had dried out, and price reflected that.

Profit though for those that follow!!

well done, unf bet£3.65 won't play with me....    :'(



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 10, 2013, 08:43:42 PM
20 runner apprentice race over 7f. LOOOOOOOL, you gotta be kidding!!!

Oh dear.

Been waiting for Mon Brav to run back over 7f for ages.

Won over course, and seems to finish each 6f race like this will be ideal. At the general 14s available I just have to mention it. EW must


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on October 10, 2013, 11:04:23 PM
Nice win today Adz, i missed both unfortunately. 

Any views on oriental fox for the cesarewitch?  We know it stays and Murtagh is back on for the ride, he is in ridiculous form of late and i'm guessing he could have had any number of rides? so it's a positive that he is sticking with it after his last win.

Orpsie boy runs tomorrow in the 6:10 at wolves.  Career low mark, 22 races without a win.  I didn't think it ran well last race, but showed promising signs before that.  Last race was a class 5, back down to class 6 again today.  Same course and distance they keep trying it over.  Drawn low which is a positive, Luke Morris keeps the ride after last time which in my mind is another positive, must think it has a chance if he is back on board after last time? Obviously its long losing run is a negative, at 12/1 im happy to take a little punt.  If they can't get it to do the business tomorrow, I think its time to give up and forget about its falling mark and delete him from the nagme. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 11, 2013, 01:24:08 AM
Mr Sparrow.
These sound like ice creamy traits you have developed, falling in love with a horse etc and backing it til it wins.......tut tut( never expose yourself so publically, always keep it off blonde ;0)).

As a long time OB fan it has to be last chance saloon time. I thought he had everything in his favour last time tbh, and he never showed up, in all honesty I must question the wisdom.

OF very impressive last time. Sadly I rarely get Mark Johnno right, and feel lucky to have got a few bob from him last time when the maestro was on him. I won't be following up and will be hoping rain stays away as I am on Domination at nice prices.

GL mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on October 11, 2013, 07:42:23 AM
Mr Sparrow.
These sound like ice creamy traits you have developed, falling in love with a horse etc and backing it til it wins.......tut tut( never expose yourself so publically, always keep it off blonde ;0)).

As a long time OB fan it has to be last chance saloon time. I thought he had everything in his favour last time tbh, and he never showed up, in all honesty I must question the wisdom.

OF very impressive last time. Sadly I rarely get Mark Johnno right, and feel lucky to have got a few bob from him last time when the maestro was on him. I won't be following up and will be hoping rain stays away as I am on Domination at nice prices.

GL mate

I don't think I'm developing ice cream traits, I've always had them lol.  Definitely improving on it though but you are right, I should not follow horses as often as I do, part of the learning curve that I haven't quite got over yet.  I haven't put any money on the fox yet, orpsie is carrying a few of my ££ though and it will be his last chance !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 11, 2013, 08:01:17 AM
See, for all my good intentions I will have too now as well!!! Gl mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
well done yesterday adz

not sure i trust oriental fox to do it again on Saturday especially at a similar price to last time in a much tougher race?

As for orpsie boy think i said before never get Carr right so i leave her alone horse looks to have lost its spark though? Never put anyone of a double figure priced horse saying that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 10:12:04 AM
had pennies on JUSTONEFORTHEROAD today at York

Based on last run looks back in form, likes the track, the ever softening ground is a bonus, well handicapped and i really like Samantha Bell as a claimer (Seems to have settled in with Fahey now after a slow start)

small bet at 20's ish


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
Hugh has just put up Sohar as we;ll so at least should have a value loser tommorow evening :)

As he states looks like the rain will be hitting hq so i have had my final ces bet on moidore


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 11:12:42 AM
Hugh has now put up Moidore as well :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2013, 11:33:34 AM
Hugh has now put up Moidore as well :(

Hugh is definitely 'due' that's for sure. I've been following him for the last month and it's been very cold!

He posted himself the other day that this year was his best ever until the last 4 weeks, which have been abysmal and he had his first winner over that period on Tuesday.

That said, he has been pretty unlucky a few times, the most memorable being Chrissycross - a 12/1 shot that pulled 5 lengths clear to lose by less than a neck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 11:36:03 AM
I didnt mean it to sound negative he had put up Moidore just the fact the price would go before i could get on which it has

Think he had a winner in the week at Wolver?




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2013, 12:06:25 PM
I didnt mean it to sound negative he had put up Moidore just the fact the price would go before i could get on which it has

Think he had a winner in the week at Wolver?



Gotcha, hopefully they'll ease them again in the morning so you can get the better price.

Yes, he had a winner at Brighton on Tuesday and that was the first for about 3 weeks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2013, 09:19:24 PM
Pricewise horses tonight were -

Newmarket

14:05 - Trumpet Major @ 11/1

15:50 - Tiger Cliff @ 12/1


York

15:30 - Baccarat @ 8/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on October 11, 2013, 09:33:28 PM
Pricewise horses tonight were -

Newmarket

14:05 - Trumpet Major @ 11/1

15:50 - Tiger Cliff @ 12/1


York

15:30 - Baccarat @ 8/1

Loving the Newmarket double.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2013, 10:21:01 PM
Pricewise horses tonight were -

Newmarket

14:05 - Trumpet Major @ 11/1

15:50 - Tiger Cliff @ 12/1


York

15:30 - Baccarat @ 8/1

Loving the Newmarket double.

Liking the Trixie, but don't tell Tikay ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 12, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
lack of rain a big worry for me 3 bar brockwell


cant see how sohar or moidore will be quick enough to win now hopefully sneak into the places behind brockwell :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 12, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
Hard to believe there's ever been a worse big-name jump jockey than R.Johnson. Guy is an insta-lay on anything short at the moment.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 12, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Were the jocks told that The Ces is now a 2m race?

Bizarre how early all the big guns went for home. V odd


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 12, 2013, 04:10:44 PM
would not have picked that with 32 free bets


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 12, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
Where did pallasator actually finish?! I'm quite confused I thought I'd lost but seems I haven't...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on October 12, 2013, 04:16:20 PM
Should have taken the hint when No Leaf Clover wouldn't respond to my shouting at the telly


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 12, 2013, 04:18:58 PM
Where did pallasator actually finish?! I'm quite confused I thought I'd lost but seems I haven't...

5th mate, most bookies paying 5 places.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 12, 2013, 04:20:38 PM
Tiger Cliff travelled like a monster, but it looked like he had me on his back for the last 1/2 mile...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 12, 2013, 04:22:51 PM
Where did pallasator actually finish?! I'm quite confused I thought I'd lost but seems I haven't...

5th mate, most bookies paying 5 places.


sweet cheers Marky, yeh paddys have paiiiid me but I thought id missed it. GL everyone tyty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on October 12, 2013, 06:02:43 PM
Hard to believe there's ever been a worse big-name jump jockey than R.Johnson. Guy is an insta-lay on anything short at the moment.

Made me smile. I agree. I have a share of a horse trained by Tim Vaughan and never rated Mr Johnson even though he'll be riding the horse this season no doubt :-(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 13, 2013, 06:48:58 PM
Got up late because I didn't realise there was any decent racing today...

Did the Ellison Pricewise horse with both of Hugh's picks in a treble, and also had his in a double too.

16:40 Curragh  - Montefeltro

16:45 Gdwood - Ashpan Sam

17:45 Gdwood - Myboyalfie


Great entertainment for £15, but I guess I'll have to keep saving for Vegas :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 14, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
Really like Samantha Bell.

Only had seven winners so far, four of them in the last week or so. She'll get plenty of rides next turf season if she keeps her 7lb.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 14, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
yep wins with the other ride on saturday and then 2 from 3 with one placed today

She is well worth following just wish i had looked at todays fayre now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 14, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.




Put up a race too early, but I know a few kept the faith. She rode a cracker!! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 16, 2013, 02:15:27 PM
bit of a risky one this but anyway

LUPO DORO 4.50 NOTTS at about 16/1 win only

Very risky as basically failed to start the last twice, however Doyle back on board (1-1) good draw, trainer in bit better nick and form on this ground is 2321.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on October 16, 2013, 02:21:07 PM
bit of a risky one this but anyway

LUPO DORO 4.50 NOTTS at about 16/1 win only

Very risky as basically failed to start the last twice, however Doyle back on board (1-1) good draw, trainer in bit better nick and form on this ground is 2321.


Bet it in the Shops and wait to see if it traps before handing the slip over?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on October 16, 2013, 03:47:16 PM
bit of a risky one this but anyway

LUPO DORO 4.50 NOTTS at about 16/1 win only

Very risky as basically failed to start the last twice, however Doyle back on board (1-1) good draw, trainer in bit better nick and form on this ground is 2321.


Bet it in the Shops and wait to see if it traps before handing the slip over?
Hehe. I remember my phone punters doing that with Vodkatini. What an awkward animal that was.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 16, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
Haha.

Vodkatini. Always went to the local bookie with the least experienced staff whenever he ran. Happy days!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 16, 2013, 05:06:20 PM
Lovely time of year. Jumpers starting again and a few switchers.

Lie Forrit has his first run for Lucinda today in last at Wetherby. 6s last night looked worth a risk, not so much the 3s now, but if he puts his best foot forward, could be a horse to follow, now he is with a decent sized stable.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 16, 2013, 05:52:30 PM
Lovely performance, and a great SP, 13/2. Jubbly.....





 ;booder;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 16, 2013, 06:33:44 PM
Good shout mate!

How blessed are you?

Get the early price, but they throw in an extra point via a pre race drift!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 16, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
Lovely performance, and a great SP, 13/2. Jubbly.....





 ;booder;

Missed it obv. - expect a drink for not bokking ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on October 16, 2013, 07:16:15 PM
nice spot , could be a good season for the ladies ,lavelle, russell, sue smith and v williams all trainers i'll be following  this year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on October 17, 2013, 12:55:39 AM
Lovely time of year. Jumpers starting again and a few switchers.

Lie Forrit has his first run for Lucinda today in last at Wetherby. 6s last night looked worth a risk, not so much the 3s now, but if he puts his best foot forward, could be a horse to follow, now he is with a decent sized stable.
Very nice. Drifter in the shop too. So everyone came up trumps.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 17, 2013, 11:25:33 PM
Captain Sunshine should be hard to beat in the 3.15 at Chelts tomorrow with Lavelle horses pulling up trees, but can't help thinking Restless Harry is worth a few bob at 20s plus.

Now he has lost the liability that is Henry Oliver, he already is better off, but he has a decent record fresh and Almost 2 stone lower than during his pomp.

As a front runner we should get a run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 18, 2013, 09:35:54 AM
well done with lie forrit adz

gd lk today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2013, 03:37:31 PM
Oh well. Cant win em all.

Looks like Harry has just lost the plot. Very uninspiring.

Sadly the first one crossed off was the winner. Onwards


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 18, 2013, 09:59:36 PM
Pricewise picks for tomorrow are -

13:45 - Pale Mimosa

14:20 - Jack Dexter
         - Cape of Approval

16:05 - Morandi

16:45 - Intrigo


Anyone who reckons Champions Day 2013 isn’t living up to its billing is reading a different form book to me. The winners of the Derby, Oaks, 2,000 Guineas, St James’s Palace Stakes, Gold Cup, Prix de l’Abbaye and Lockinge are all in action, as is Cirrus Des Aigles, the second-best horse in the world last year and still a top-notch performer in 2013.

This is the best single day’s racing in Britain this season.

Best bet on the card could be Jack Dexter in the Qipco British Champions Sprint (2.20). Jim Goldie’s four-year-old relishes soft ground and has a good record at Ascot, with just about his best run coming when a close fourth in the King’s Stand over 5f in June. He ran a cracker in the Ayr Gold Cup last month, giving more than a stone to those who finished in front of him.

This is open, though, and Cape Of Approval looks another value play at 25-1. The Tommy Stack-trained four-year-old has twice beaten favourite Maarek this season and he ran really well from a dire draw at the Curragh two starts back on ground that would have been a shade too fast. A slow start, stall 18 and a fast 5f gave him no chance in the Prix de l’Abbaye last time, but he still shaped well.

Cirrus Des Aigles and Farhh set the standard on old form in the Qipco Champion Stakes (4.05), but the jury is still out regarding to how good Cirrus Des Aigles is these days, while Farhh is hard to keep sound and the speed he showed in the Lockinge might make this trip an issue after his absence. The drop in trip might just suit Ruler Of The World given the turn of foot he showed in the Derby, but preference is for French raider Morandi.

He has been beaten by Intello three times this season, but that one’s third place in the Arc tells us he’s the best three-year-old colt in Europe, so that’s no disgrace. Today’s trip on soft ground is perfect and, as his best form came in the autumn last year, he looks likely to give his running.

The plan was to have a couple of stabs at the Qipco Future Stars Apprentice Handicap (4.45) given it is a 29-runner handicap, but it looks nigh on impossible so I’ll stick with just Intrigo in that race and Pale Mimosa in the Qipco British Champions Long Distance Cup (1.45) for Dermot Weld.

There aren’t many better trainers of stayers than Weld and the fact he runs Pale Mimosa is a tip in itself. She looked in need of the outing when disappointing in the Irish Leger last time, but started much shorter than her stablemate, and runaway winner, Voleuse De Coeurs.

She clearly under-performed that day but, with that run under her belt, a much better performance should be expected. As for Intrigo, he will love the ground, and a strongly run 7f may enable him to return to the sort of form that saw him narrowly beaten by Heaven’s Guest at Epsom in June.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 19, 2013, 11:06:17 AM
Eleven mares in foal to Frankel including 2011 Oaks winner Dancing Rain will be part of Tattersall's December sale.

I wonder how much they might go for.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 19, 2013, 06:05:04 PM
Eleven mares in foal to Frankel including 2011 Oaks winner Dancing Rain will be part of Tattersall's December sale.

I wonder how much they might go for.

Bound to be one of them lump out 5m+ for one!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 19, 2013, 06:08:58 PM
Just said to Adz, some day I've had today!

13:45 - Harris Tweed

14:20 - Jack Dexter

14:55 - Belle De Crecy

15:30 - Top Notch Tonto

16:05 - Morandi

16:45 - Intrigo



 ;technophobe;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 22, 2013, 04:45:46 PM
Really quite keen on Lutine Bell in 6.40 at Kempton tonight.

Its one of those nearly horses that always leaves excuses to back it next time, but it has continued to drop in the handicap despite looking unlucky several times recently.

Last time out Hughes managed to go right instead of left at Kempton and ran into trouble and the book says he had done all his running. I dont think he had.

Dobbs is booked but Hughes is now on a NR(that was to be the saver) and I wouldnt be surprised to see Hughes put back on, and the price drop.

Not put it on TFT because he may not be genuine, but Im prepared to give him a try at 10s ew with Sporting Bet. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 22, 2013, 06:50:58 PM
Lost his race in the stalls by the look of it. Big line through that fella! Sorry bout that.

Onwards


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 24, 2013, 06:43:52 PM
You only get replies when they win mate ;)


Got lost in TfT, so thought I'd post here for your opinion Chomps

Never easy to get on with Laddies.

On a line through Kuban Krasondar, I make this one a good thang. 11/2 is just saveloy!

Ahoy There beat Island Remede by a neck last week over same distance in a Class 5 over 1m @ Notts.

Yesterday Island Remede won a Class 4 over 9f by 7 lengths at Newmarket.

You can probably interprete that better than I can, but it might be relevant somehow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 24, 2013, 07:09:19 PM
I would be nice to get slagged off for the losers, at least you know someone's listening!

As for Chompys bet, sometimes you dont need collateral form to have a bet.

This horse won so easy last time despite getting into all sorts of trouble, it was a must bet til beat type entry in the tracker.

Mrs C emptyed her account at 11/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 24, 2013, 07:48:18 PM
I would be nice to get slagged off for the losers, at least you know someone's listening!

As for Chompys bet, sometimes you dont need collateral form to have a bet.

This horse won so easy last time despite getting into all sorts of trouble, it was a must bet til beat type entry in the tracker.

Mrs C emptyed her account at 11/2

I had intended to, but forgot ;D

Of course, but that Island Remede was incredibly impressive yesterday when it bashed up everything in that race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 24, 2013, 07:49:48 PM
Agreed. Once it set off in front rather than previous waiting tictacs, it was start counting time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 24, 2013, 07:57:23 PM
Agreed. Once it set off in front rather than previous waiting tictacs, it was start counting time

The 9th furlong possibly helped, as it looked to be travelling best at the finish in the race Ahoy There won over 8.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 24, 2013, 10:50:21 PM
nurserys are not my thing but agree with chompy cant have ahoy there massively flattered by way the race panned out last time i feel


have had a small bet prodigality in the sprint at donny tommorow at 25's eway

good draw,form figures on this ground over this distance and class

2210013 not bad jockey  on 1210

obviously well out of form but no idea what it was doing in a group sprint last time had no chance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 25, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
5th at 16/1

more value pie for dinner tonight


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 25, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
Pricewise horses -

Aintree

15:05 - Astracad



Doncaster

15:15 - Take Cover
         -  Pearl Blue

15:50 - Johann Strauss


Newbury

15:30 - Soviet Rock





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 26, 2013, 09:18:12 AM
two interesting ones for me today

in the racing post trophy although the most exposed in the race i think somewhat might take some pegging back in this if fanning is allowed a soft lead. If anyone has seen this horse run check out its knee action, should relish this ground on all evidence and i dont think there is a camelot in this line up, think 8/1 is very fair.

5.00 firebeam is a different horse on soft ground and i think will press matters from the front and prove too good at around 9/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 26, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
two interesting ones for me today

in the racing post trophy although the most exposed in the race i think somewhat might take some pegging back in this if fanning is allowed a soft lead. If anyone has seen this horse run check out its knee action, should relish this ground on all evidence and i dont think there is a camelot in this line up, think 8/1 is very fair.

5.00 firebeam is a different horse on soft ground and i think will press matters from the front and prove too good at around 9/2

Mate of mine subscribes to a service which gave him that Somewhat today, so I better chuck a saver on that and a cheeky couple quid on Firebeam too.

Good luck m8


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 26, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
Glad that McCoy isn't all that anymore  ;frustrated;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 27, 2013, 04:11:12 AM
two interesting ones for me today

in the racing post trophy although the most exposed in the race i think somewhat might take some pegging back in this if fanning is allowed a soft lead. If anyone has seen this horse run check out its knee action, should relish this ground on all evidence and i dont think there is a camelot in this line up, think 8/1 is very fair.

5.00 firebeam is a different horse on soft ground and i think will press matters from the front and prove too good at around 9/2

did you bet with a firm that gave you money back if both finish last!!! :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 28, 2013, 09:03:17 PM
had interests in two races tommorow

2.10 yarmouth typical yarmouth event like SILVER ALLIANCE at 12/1 (Always runs well here soft heavy ground fine) and HIDDEN TALENT  20/1 (showed nothing until getting soft for first time since racing in france last time, ran on well and i noted it was backed late from 50-1 to 25ish on betfair)

7.10 wolver NO WIN NO FEE (only unexposed runner in here good comeback last week) 5/1 with pp is a mythical though
:( with KNOWE HEAD 10/1 (ignore recent turf runs this is its bag)


have backed hidden talent as a single and the rest in cross doubles only



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 28, 2013, 10:02:58 PM
I expect the 5s with PP will go, got maxed at 30 on No Win

They punted it into 2-1 last week, when it was expected to need the run. Ran well despite missing break and taking the long route. I expect a similar gamble tomorrow


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 28, 2013, 10:15:40 PM
See Chompy is NWNF in the RP write up for the race too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 28, 2013, 10:23:08 PM
it ran like it needed the run but applebys very very rarely do need the run so i am a bit confused by that

anyway if it did or didnt should be more to come, not a bad event for a tuesday evening though certainly no gimme


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 29, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
sigh....again :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 29, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
no excuses there

no idea how they sent of knowe head that short mmm


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 29, 2013, 10:20:32 PM
Filthy filthy 4-1 the field Wolverhampton handicaps. Wouldn't ever touch these races, especially Saturday nights when the jockeys know most will be watching X Factor.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on October 29, 2013, 10:52:23 PM
might be off to nottingham races tomorrpw - any fancys?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 29, 2013, 10:58:47 PM
One I follow is Ace Master that is running in the 1430. It won last time out and likes plenty of cut in the ground.

West Coast Dream in the 1505 was put up by Hugh last week and withdrawn. There has been some money for it already tonight and that loves soft ground too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 30, 2013, 08:43:50 AM
I had in my tracker the appropriately named Lager Time in same race as West Coast Dream.

Before I get laughed outta Dodge look at its last two runs and tell me they were trying their best?!

They have changed jockeys to the kid that last won on him and worth a pound ew at 33s, just in case I'm not going completely mad. Have fun!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 30, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
Definitely prefer yours at the prices now, Adz!

I know it could be a case of Is 'insert trainer', but is Evans a real dodgepot?

I never seem to catch any of his horses right, but you always see his popping up at massive prices, and normally when I'm on something else :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 30, 2013, 12:22:19 PM
Not sure mate, but he runs most of his horses fairly regularly. If it was some One horse Willy, you could say the horse might not be fit etc etc, but Evans knows the time of day, and this horse is almost 50% win or place ratio, so based on last two efforts including the old, pretend look down when horse carries him into contention, bluff, I am happy to take a chance for a few shillings at 33s.

West Coast romps in!! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on October 30, 2013, 12:32:16 PM
Thanks guys but cant go now might have a wee nibble just in case.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 30, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
Definitely prefer yours at the prices now, Adz!

I know it could be a case of Is 'insert trainer', but is Evans a real dodgepot?

I never seem to catch any of his horses right, but you always see his popping up at massive prices, and normally when I'm on something else :D

certainly not bent

just runs them a hell of a lot (probably to much)

can mostly be found drunk at the wolver bar


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 30, 2013, 04:55:13 PM
Just standard poker player mentality, where I remember Evan's losers then ;D

Thought that Ace Master was there, but West Coast Dream blew the start...

Would have hurt a lot more if WCD had won, though!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 01:46:21 PM
Breeders Cup.

Sure most of you will have spent your money following Horsey on TFT, but spent so much time on it might as well pen a few thoughts. Will start with tonight, and save tomorrows until the morning after a few reflections as draw bias may not be so damaging/track quicker or slower than thought etc. So Friday night

8.45 Mararthon.

looks a poor race and gets worse every year. Would love to see Jo Hughes win with London Bridge, but cant see it. Last year they went of like scalded cats and as the majority of US bred horses dont stay this far, it was carnage with a horse tailed off after a furlong winning easily in the end.

Blueskies will be up there and has a decent track record but never won this far, so may well set it up for a closer.

I like Pool Player, who has a touch of class having contested the Classic last year, and the biggest earner. Getting on a bit that didnt stop the 9 year old winner last year. Hope to see him plod on when others has given up, probably followed by Worldly who is consistent and has Top Beyer speed figure, but rarely wins.

Pool Player  small interest at 11-1 with WH ew


9.25 Juvenile Turf

Our raiders are 3-3 at Santa A and we have clear top 3 on Beyer figures and see no reason to look any further.

On strict form line Outstrip has a few lengths in hand of Giovanni Boldini, but Outstrip looks like a terrier whereas Gio looks more elegant. I think the later may still be improving and just give him the edge

Giovanni Boldini 7/2 generally


10.05 Dirt Mile

stand out horse here is Verrazano, who is the class act. Ticks all the trend boxes but drawn a little wide, and has been known to bottle the big days. Won 6-8 but blew the K Derby. i cant have a bet in the race and not at least save on Verrazano.

However clear lead horse looks to be Alpha, who has a couple of G1 wins to his name, and with so many horse that seem to sit just off the pace, I am hoping he can stack them up and cause a bit of traffic behind and scoot clear of the home turn, as he stays further than this.

Alpha win only 18-1 Coral/VC

Verrazanno 7-2 Coral/Lads


10.50 juveniles Fillies Turf

With Lasix banned, it should suit the Euro team again.

I have been very impressed with Al thakira in her two races to date, and being trained by Marco Botti who's US record is 3-6, it seems churlish to try and find something to beat her. Well drawn and with a decent Bayer figure, I am happy to have her on my side. Sure Fred has an interest in Vorda for the 1000G so will be looking for a big performance from her too, but i just prefer AT

An outsider that took my eye was Sky Painter of Godolphins, who after a maiden win showed a decent turn of foot to almost get up against the far more experienced Testa Rossi. The fast ground and slingshot factor round the final turn may negate her wide draw.

Al Thakira 6-1 General

Sky Painter 16-1 VC bet


11.35 Distaff

Looking forward to this with The Queen in attendance, Royal Delta. Winner , I think at last two BCs, I am hoping to get her beat.

Race looking like Beholder will lead with Royal Delta stalking. Princess of Sylmar make look out of it after a furlong but she has been getting better at the start with each race. I hope that Beholder will set a pace and with RD in the slipstream will go too early and burn them both out and leave the way for PoS to slide on by in the last 10 yards or so. Having beaten them both before I am surprised she can be backed at 3-1.

Princess of Sylmar 3-1 Laddies


GL all and if we get some half decent results I shall try again tomorrow!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 01, 2013, 02:23:53 PM
g lk adz

like one at wolver as well tonight

6.20 SILVER FAWN 16/1

ran better than result after a longish break here last time (rider went 5 wide all the way) trainer does not have many winners but at 16/1 i have had a very small bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 06:55:16 PM
Breeders Yankee

The Fugue  22.22

Mucho Mucho Man  0.35(Last Race)

Al Thakira 22.50(tonight)

Sweet Reason 7.05

Horsey has bottled a recommend on TFT ;surrender;, but I shall have a good bet on Sweet reason. At 9/2 tempted to make it bigger and go ew. Just cant see it out of the 3.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 01, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 07:04:12 PM
LOl. Chill. Just a little banter. Its an exciting nite and I'm all excited!

I presume banter is allowed on here?!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 01, 2013, 08:01:55 PM
I'm quite sweet on The Fugue tomorrow too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 01, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
A favourite couple of nights for vegging on the settee and  throwing darts at horses I have never heard of, usually at big prices. All cash in the 9.25 seemed a tad over priced given it has close form with horses in the 12/1 and 14/1 range and seemed to be a little unlucky last time. Tho on RPR it needs to improve about a stone and there are probably a load of other reasons it is a big price but a small amount of Bobby bucks for summat to watch.

gl everyone and lets a have a few yeeeehaaa's between us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 09:00:08 PM
 ;booder;



LOL. The Brits didnt fancy it, it was working like a dog. Just couldnt do it.

Rule Britannia!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
Rule Brittania!

Right two. Wrong way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 11:03:06 PM
Rule Brittania!

Wrong one again.

Think I best stick to big field handicaps!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 01, 2013, 11:34:27 PM
Royal Delta @3.2 in the get out stakes for me tonight.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 02, 2013, 01:00:50 PM
Cracking Grade 1 'chase at Down Royal at 2.30pm.

Can hardy perennial Sizing Europe get three miles in this company?

If I can get 4/1 I'll be dabbling.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2013, 01:07:11 PM
Have backed Mount Benbullen, hoping he continues late season progress. Only really goes this way round and not many G1s to go for this way, so hoping he is ready.

Never mind when SE beats me tho, but always too short for me. GL Ralph


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 02, 2013, 01:11:58 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's

What bet was that John, and is it still relevant at current prices?

As you note, I was a bit busy last weekend, and missed a ton of bets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 02, 2013, 01:19:18 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's

What bet was that John, and is it still relevant at current prices?

As you note, I was a bit busy last weekend, and missed a ton of bets.

Sweet Reason in the 1905 @ Santa Anita, Tikay.

Horsey put it up a couple days ago on Fred.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 02, 2013, 01:54:18 PM
Another reminder why I try to avoid Richard Johnson at all costs  ;frustrated;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 02, 2013, 01:57:14 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's

What bet was that John, and is it still relevant at current prices?

As you note, I was a bit busy last weekend, and missed a ton of bets.

Sweet Reason in the 1905 @ Santa Anita, Tikay.

Horsey put it up a couple days ago on Fred.

OK Mark, thanks, will have a look for it later. Current price is 11/2.


http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/santa-anita/19:05/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 02, 2013, 02:11:52 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's

What bet was that John, and is it still relevant at current prices?

Think he recommended 15 or 20ew @ 6/1, so you're only 1/2 a point down, and Adz said he thought 9/2 might still be worth betting.
As you note, I was a bit busy last weekend, and missed a ton of bets.

Sweet Reason in the 1905 @ Santa Anita, Tikay.

Horsey put it up a couple days ago on Fred.

OK Mark, thanks, will have a look for it later. Current price is 11/2.


http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/santa-anita/19:05/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 02, 2013, 02:39:39 PM
Didn't get matched on SE must be nailed-on now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
Wow. Is Alex Solis a girl?

What was all that about. Did he/she expect it to win on the bit?!

At least the Gooners are soothing the pain......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2013, 10:38:31 PM
Not a great O'Brien/Moore fan right now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 03, 2013, 01:01:33 AM
Betid 34858205200  Time: 20:17  Bet Type: 5 Fold  Stake: £ xx.xx
EVENT    SELECTION    PRICE    E/W TERMS    RESULT    STATUS
19:43 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
DANK    13/8    Standard EW terms apply    Won    Unsettled
21:05 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
MIZDIRECTION    7/2    Standard EW terms apply    Won    Unsettled
22:22 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
THE FUGUE    13/8    Standard EW terms apply    Placed    Unsettled
23:01 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
SECRET CIRCLE    6/1    Standard EW terms apply    Won    Unsettled
00:35 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
MUCHO MACHO MAN    4/1    EW 1/5 1,2,3    None    Unsettled



Fugue hurt quite a bit!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 03, 2013, 01:53:10 AM
Jesus that's sick :(

I had just been cursing the fact that the weight of my pony had stopped mine from getting up in the last, but that pales into insignificance after seeing that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 05, 2013, 01:39:31 AM
Thread for Flemington

http://tykestv.eu/streams/horse-racing/channel-4-racing/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 05, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
Like two at Southwell today

1.40 HELLBENDER around 8/1 solid around here a mark of 66 is fine, last 4 starts here are good enough to close, last one a bit below par but usually runs a race around here

2.40 MODIFY 3/1ish a very rare maiden bet, awful race this half sister to southwell superstar Dubai Hills should handle the track. Has also not run in a race this bad yet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on November 05, 2013, 12:12:44 PM
Like two at Southwell today

1.40 HELLBENDER around 8/1 solid around here a mark of 66 is fine, last 4 starts here are good enough to close, last one a bit below par but usually runs a race around here

2.40 MODIFY 3/1ish a very rare maiden bet, awful race this half sister to southwell superstar Dubai Hills should handle the track. Has also not run in a race this bad yet

actually bet 2 in this race against you. Marked up both khajally and bassett roads runs last time after both being up with a hectic pace and sticking on well, mind you based on my last foray into this thread you should get in the queue.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on November 05, 2013, 01:53:03 PM
Like two at Southwell today

1.40 HELLBENDER around 8/1 solid around here a mark of 66 is fine, last 4 starts here are good enough to close, last one a bit below par but usually runs a race around here

2.40 MODIFY 3/1ish a very rare maiden bet, awful race this half sister to southwell superstar Dubai Hills should handle the track. Has also not run in a race this bad yet

 ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 05, 2013, 01:54:04 PM
Nice one Horsey!

Best delete some old PMs your fans will be going wild!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Bazzaboy on November 05, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
TY Horsey


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 05, 2013, 02:11:07 PM
My timing is epic at present... Congrats all who got on!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 05, 2013, 02:53:32 PM
thanks all

second one ran likes it needs 2 miles around southwell think Dubai Hills sire is more important for its love of southwell

anyway a decent day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 05, 2013, 03:03:59 PM
Congrats horsey and with the melbourne cup pick!  I missed this one today and already had 2 in the melbourne cup, i'l be on the next winner though hopefully!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 05, 2013, 06:27:23 PM
Watching RUK tonight where they have James Willoughby in the studio, and he is waaaay too smart for me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 05, 2013, 10:33:31 PM
hopefully at least 16 remain in the 1.00 at Notts tommorow

Have backed two each way

Main bet on DANZOE at 20's good draw, back down to a fair mark, responded well to pressure last time here and  ground conditions fine for this old stalwart

Secondary bet on BREEZOLINI at 8's again good draw, ran well on debut for pears last time and conditions are ideal.

Pull the Pin is a rightful fav but will not get an easy lead tommorow and as such might be there for the taking late on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 05:50:55 AM
6:30 Kempton - Echua.  Not raced for over 1000 days, irish trainer brining just 1 to kempton?  Backed in from 20/1 to 8/1 on bet365, just an observation, but looks abit sneaky to me!  I do like Evans gambles though, especially when the yard hits some form, had 2 winners the other day, both under Adam Kirby who has a great strike rate for Evans so Cabuchon is interesting to me in this race too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 06:03:56 AM
6:30 Kempton - Echua.  Not raced for over 1000 days, irish trainer brining just 1 to kempton?  Backed in from 20/1 to 8/1 on bet365, just an observation, but looks abit sneaky to me!  I do like Evans gambles though, especially when the yard hits some form, had 2 winners the other day, both under Adam Kirby who has a great strike rate for Evans so Cabuchon is interesting to me in this race too.

Kirby rode a 4 timer last night at Kempton, but I missed the only one I was going to back because my dog was throwing a wobbly at the fireworks!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 06, 2013, 11:22:29 AM
now clear fav the irish horse! wonder if it has been flapping in all the time its been away?

Got some nice value in the 1.00 hope one of them cops


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on November 06, 2013, 12:03:34 PM
Watching RUK tonight where they have James Willoughby in the studio, and he is waaaay too smart for me!

Agreed Marky

Thought he came across well

Massive level of research time required on those sectionals


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 06, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
crossbar for a small loss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 02:12:27 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
Watching RUK tonight where they have James Willoughby in the studio, and he is waaaay too smart for me!

Agreed Marky

Thought he came across well

Massive level of research time required on those sectionals

I think he's great to listen to, but a lot of it goes way over my head.

As you say, he must spend a lot of time researching all the sectional stuff, and he definitely loves the game!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 04:00:10 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 04:10:54 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.

What do you mean by that mate? invited meaning politely asked aka told to withdraw it? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.

What do you mean by that mate? invited meaning politely asked aka told to withdraw it? 

Happened last week somewhere, another Irish horse that had been sent over after not running for 2 years. Gambled from 33/1 down to single figures, so they BHA offered the trainer the option of withdrawing the horse, and then there was an investigation anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 04:23:35 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.

What do you mean by that mate? invited meaning politely asked aka told to withdraw it? 

Happened last week somewhere, another Irish horse that had been sent over after not running for 2 years. Gambled from 33/1 down to single figures, so they BHA offered the trainer the option of withdrawing the horse, and then there was an investigation anyway.

Ah i see.  If there is going to be an investigation regardless then if i was the trainer/owner i'd keep it in now the money was down.  After doing abit more research i came across this:

" this horse is having his first run for new connections. The Irish trainer Emmet Butterly has sent over 18 horses to British AW tracks and 6 have won, while the new owner DJ Doland also owns Scary Movie who was sent over here to win twice at Kempton back in March. "


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 05:53:03 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.

What do you mean by that mate? invited meaning politely asked aka told to withdraw it? 

Happened last week somewhere, another Irish horse that had been sent over after not running for 2 years. Gambled from 33/1 down to single figures, so they BHA offered the trainer the option of withdrawing the horse, and then there was an investigation anyway.

Ah i see.  If there is going to be an investigation regardless then if i was the trainer/owner i'd keep it in now the money was down.  After doing abit more research i came across this:

" this horse is having his first run for new connections. The Irish trainer Emmet Butterly has sent over 18 horses to British AW tracks and 6 have won, while the new owner DJ Doland also owns Scary Movie who was sent over here to win twice at Kempton back in March. "

I think I would be more inclined to withdraw than run, regardless. They told him they would investigate after the race, at which point he withdrew, and then they said they were going to investigate anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 06, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
V unlucky Master Sparrow. Very good spot indeed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 06:47:13 PM
Close one, i'l get a winner soon :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 07, 2013, 11:39:47 AM
Interesting one tonight.

West Leake Diman 6.50 @ Wolves 15/2 VCbet.

Just moved to Kenny Daglishs stable and got the sheepskin on for the first time, could all freshen him up. Abso chucked in on old form and a few shillings flying about for him. Worth a win only. Looks like a total boom or bust job. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 07, 2013, 11:40:09 AM
ul a

like LYBICA again today in last at lingfield 10/1 is fair

backed it last time and ran really well considering seemed to hate heavy ground (very weak in market)

last all weather win is very strong form this is a good race so just a small bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 07, 2013, 03:26:42 PM
How on earth did he get that up?

Incred!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 07, 2013, 07:05:45 PM
Interesting one tonight.

West Leake Diman 6.50 @ Wolves 15/2 VCbet.

Just moved to Kenny Daglishs stable and got the sheepskin on for the first time, could all freshen him up. Abso chucked in on old form and a few shillings flying about for him. Worth a win only. Looks like a total boom or bust job. GL

BUST....

Backed nicely. Led, looked fine, got company, faded, finished last!!

Apols if u were on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 08, 2013, 11:06:21 AM
lybica strangely was still keen quite well backed all day as well strange flat effort


Have backed two for the November handicap tommorow

Main bet is COMMUNICATOR at 20's, done very little all season after finishing second in this last year until last time at Chester when definitely showed signs of life and was generously dropped 3lbs. Now 3lbs lower than last year this could have been the long term aim.

Saver on AITKEN at 16'sis 3/3 in handicaps will find this a lot easier and Gosden does not use headgear unless its for a reason




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 08, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Pricewise Horses for tomorrow are -


Doncaster

14:25 - Mass Rally @ 12/1

15:35 - Rhombus @ 12/1 Boyle 10/1 Gen
         - Forgotten Hero @ 16/1


Wincanton

14:40 - De La Bech @ 9/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 11, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
A few have taken my eye at Carlisle today,

Imperial Vic  2.25

Rockawango  1.50

Politeness  3.00  25-1 with VC looks tidy ew

and for Marky

Extelar 12.45


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 11, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
First two home carry 10st. Not a day for top weights!! Great! :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 11, 2013, 01:24:07 PM
Ha, followed that one over the cliff!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 11, 2013, 01:45:16 PM
Ha, followed that one over the cliff!


Could never have looked myself in the mirror if I didnt stick that donkey in and he won!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 11, 2013, 03:03:53 PM
Ha, followed that one over the cliff!


Could never have looked myself in the mirror if I didnt stick that donkey in and he won!!

:)

I burdened politeness with my money, so good luck us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2013, 03:31:04 PM
See Echua won yesterday @ 3/1, but no gamble on it, which was very surprising, as it was one of Hugh Taylor's picks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 13, 2013, 07:50:11 PM
See Echua won yesterday @ 3/1, but no gamble on it, which was very surprising, as it was one of Hugh Taylor's picks.

Yeah i saw that too, but somehow missed it until i was looking through the days results on the on the racing post app. Very strange no one gambled it after the money last time out and Hugh putting it up.  Hopefully you or some others managers to get on :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 13, 2013, 07:59:57 PM
3-1 plenty short enough for a horse highly likely to "bounce" and dropped down 4f.

Won well enough though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2013, 12:41:57 AM
I know it's a tough race but I'm quite sweet on Rajdhani Express in Saturday's PP Gold Cup @ 12/1 EW 1-2-3-4, a young horse which keeps improving, acts on G,G/S and is probably overpriced due to having young Waley-Cohen on board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2013, 01:20:22 AM
3-1 plenty short enough for a horse highly likely to "bounce" and dropped down 4f.

Won well enough though.

His picks rarely go off at the price he puts them up at, that's all I meant, and this one did.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2013, 01:23:16 AM
I know it's a tough race but I'm quite sweet on Rajdhani Express in Saturday's PP Gold Cup @ 12/1 EW 1-2-3-4, a young horse which keeps improving, acts on G,G/S and is probably overpriced due to having young Waley-Cohen on board.

I ploughed into Adz's selection, before it caved in thankfully. As I wouldn't be too keen to get on a 6-1 shot in a race like that.

I know that he is no McCoy, but does he not get a lot more stick than is warranted?





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 14, 2013, 08:35:07 AM
much improved since becoming a Father imo



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 14, 2013, 09:07:50 AM
much improved since becoming a Father imo




1 winner since start of new season in April......I'm not so sure!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2013, 09:26:38 AM
I know it's a tough race but I'm quite sweet on Rajdhani Express in Saturday's PP Gold Cup @ 12/1 EW 1-2-3-4, a young horse which keeps improving, acts on G,G/S and is probably overpriced due to having young Waley-Cohen on board.

I ploughed into Adz's selection, before it caved in thankfully. As I wouldn't be too keen to get on a 6-1 shot in a race like that.

I know that he is no McCoy, but does he not get a lot more stick than is warranted?





I'm assuming Adzy put up John's Spirit after it won last time.

I think it needs a couple to come out to get a run as the max field is 20.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 14, 2013, 09:30:10 AM
much improved since becoming a Father imo




1 winner since start of new season in April......I'm not so sure!

from at most 12 or so rides?

Looked fine in a race in the other day i caught, anyway he has always been on the horse so the form it has shown to make it a 10's shot in here is with him on it.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 14, 2013, 09:50:41 AM
had a few small cross doubles in the last 3 at southwell today

vitznau or mazovian

moorhouse lad or ruby day

rambo will or flash city


just for pennies very tough southwell card today imo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 14, 2013, 10:15:21 AM
much improved since becoming a Father imo




1 winner since start of new season in April......I'm not so sure!

from at most 12 or so rides?

Looked fine in a race in the other day i caught, anyway he has always been on the horse so the form it has shown to make it a 10's shot in here is with him on it.



Exactly

I think you have pretty much proven my point. You say he has improved, not sure how you can tell from 10 rides when he has only won one of them.

Nice info though on the baby!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 14, 2013, 03:00:39 PM
David johnson Memorial race at Chelts tomorrow.

Pretty sure Pipe wants to win this. Brooky had one entered but now runs Sunday as they are quite confident they have the right one tomorrow.

Top Gambler, 7s with WH when i got on a few mins ago. Probs be 3s tomorrow


For those not in the know DJ was Pipe biggest patron and this meeting was his favourite, so pretty sure they are keen to pay their respects!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 14, 2013, 05:09:31 PM
7/2, 4-1 best now. Hope a few got some.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 14, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
Only just seen this, but nice work on the big price Adz, call me a mug taking the 4's but you sound pretty confident  so i've had a go at the smaller price


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
I saw some 5/1 when I looked but not with a book that I can get on with.

GL to those who are on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 15, 2013, 08:59:03 AM
Am at the Paddy Parrr tomorrow (no monacle, Adz).

Any thoughts on the day most welcome. Was looking at Dynaste until the weather intervened.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 15, 2013, 09:11:01 AM
Am at the Paddy Parrr tomorrow (no monacle, Adz).

Any thoughts on the day most welcome. Was looking at Dynaste until the weather intervened.



Its ok Tal, we all know now you are Faux posh. I would offer to meet up but sure you will be in the Best Mate.....


Will PM you one later when I get back from today. I think he is thrown in but need to speak to a few people.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 15, 2013, 10:17:04 AM
Am at the Paddy Parrr tomorrow (no monacle, Adz).

Any thoughts on the day most welcome. Was looking at Dynaste until the weather intervened.



Its ok Tal, we all know now you are Faux posh. I would offer to meet up but sure you will be in the Best Mate.....


Will PM you one later when I get back from today. I think he is thrown in but need to speak to a few people.

Ha!

Not quite the Best Mate, but I'm sure we can miss each other even in the Tats ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 15, 2013, 10:18:07 AM
Trip to newcastle races today.
Any tips?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 15, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
Trip to newcastle races today.
Any tips?

Not very original but Serenity Now in the last (the fav) has improved again since its last run, looks quite a hot bumper for a newcastle one anyway

Straight from the owners mouth


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 15, 2013, 11:47:46 AM
Skybet are paying 5 places in the David Johnson


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 16, 2013, 04:28:06 PM
Wasn't sure at first, but over the last few weeks I've grown to actually like that Steve Mellish's punditry on RUK.

Don't go so much on the other guy who was working with him today though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 17, 2013, 11:18:41 AM
Hurricane Fly is getting a right coating on ATR from some old fool.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on November 21, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
Looking forward to tomorrow.

I've got a share in King Rolfe running in the 1.55 at Haydock.

Looks a really tough race though.

King Rolfe has nice breeding and won a PTP in Ireland beating the likes of Timesremembered before we bought it.

It ran well at Stratford winning in its first race this season.

Its a young horse but has potential.

A top 3 finish would be a result I think, should be an exciting day out though!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 21, 2013, 03:19:55 PM
Looking forward to tomorrow.

I've got a share in King Rolfe running in the 1.55 at Haydock.

Looks a really tough race though.

King Rolfe has nice breeding and won a PTP in Ireland beating the likes of Timesremembered before we bought it.

It ran well at Stratford winning in its first race this season.

Its a young horse but has potential.

A top 3 finish would be a result I think, should be an exciting day out though!

That looks like a nice horse, you should get some fun sweats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on November 21, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
I hope so, only 5 runners tomorrow, he's a 12/1 outsider. Be interesting to see how he competes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 21, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
good luck rick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 21, 2013, 04:44:02 PM
Think Adz meant to post this here, but ended up in the NFL thread :D


Many Clouds 2.30 Haydock tomorrow 9/2 with VC. Get on quick!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on November 21, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
good luck rick

Thank you, some good horses to beat looking at the field.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on November 23, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
Got completed outclassed at Haydock yesterday.

The horse needs a longer trip (two and a half miles plus) and a step down in class.

At least I back the winner, Zamdy Man looked to have the form and looked awesome in the parade ring.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 12:10:24 PM
Got completed outclassed at Haydock yesterday.

The horse needs a longer trip (two and a half miles plus) and a step down in class.

At least I back the winner, Zamdy Man looked to have the form and looked awesome in the parade ring.



One for the tracker then :)

Nice touch with Zamdy, Rick.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 23, 2013, 12:11:39 PM
Master of the Sea today, anyone?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 12:43:05 PM
Two Rockers for me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 23, 2013, 12:49:53 PM
I'm going to have a reverse forecast with Dynaste and Bob's Worth in the big one, I think.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 23, 2013, 12:55:25 PM
Is there a harder race today to try and pick the winner Tal??!!

Twisters horses not firing puts me off, but the way he developed last year well up to the task. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 23, 2013, 12:57:01 PM
Is there a harder race today to try and pick the winner Tal??!!

Twisters horses not firing puts me off, but the way he developed last year well up to the task. GL

I likes a challenge, me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 23, 2013, 02:41:42 PM
Going well...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 23, 2013, 03:40:29 PM
What a great race that was.

I had a free £25 bet and was between Dynaste and Cue Card.

Obviously I had it on Dynaste but in better news I do have Cue Card in five of my TTF lines and *ed in one. :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 04:22:22 PM
What a great race that was.

I had a free £25 bet and was between Dynaste and Cue Card.

Obviously I had it on Dynaste but in better news I do have Cue Card in five of my TTF lines and *ed in one. :)

I had backed Dynaste too, and also had him in a double with Gevrey Chambertin :(

Thought the result was going to be great for a minute, but that was some performance from Cue Card.

Great interview with Colin Tizzard afterwards too, seems like such a good bloke.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 23, 2013, 06:17:33 PM
Two Rockers for me.


How many did you back mate?...... ;bigadz;

Lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 06:33:35 PM
Two Rockers for me.


How many did you back mate?...... ;bigadz;

Lol

I had backed Dynaste anyway (as you know), but I chucked him in a double with Chambertin after watching Scudamore crowing on TML.

Shame I ignored Plunkett...






Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mickyp on November 23, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
Thought it was a great performance from cue card , jumped really well. Wouldn't race to back him for the gc but looking good for the Ryanair again


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 23, 2013, 07:12:01 PM
Two Rockers for me.


How many did you back mate?...... ;bigadz;

Lol

I had backed Dynaste anyway (as you know), but I chucked him in a double with Chambertin after watching Scudamore crowing on TML.

Shame I ignored Plunkett...







Start including her in your team of tipsters you soon be in trouble mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 09:46:16 PM
;D

Can't help but like Tizzard, and he's a local boy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 24, 2013, 02:10:35 PM
How good is Ruby riding atm.

Such a waste he isn't still over here full time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 08:35:41 AM
Interesting day today.

Debut of West Wizard for Hendo, probably the most talked up horse of the pre season..........hope he aint as good as The Liquidator....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 25, 2013, 10:39:29 AM
Like a couple at Wolver today both trained by Connor Dore

LastKingOfScotland 16's in an open race thought returned to form last time in a bunched finish (looked to be hampered)

More confident on ExceedExpectations back up at a mile and back to a fair mark.

Dore has had two run well last week at big prices, from this time onwards he usually has his best spell of the year


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 11:43:43 AM
In exceedexpectations race, a friend has just rung and told me to have my max on Dansili Dutch, and I was all set to get back on the Khajally bandwagon now he back at Wolves with Quinny back on board.

Thats now 3 to avoid!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 12:45:51 PM
Interesting day today.

Debut of West Wizard for Hendo, probably the most talked up horse of the pre season..........hope he aint as good as The Liquidator....


Beaten at 1-5........interesting!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 25, 2013, 12:47:35 PM
Interesting day today.

Debut of West Wizard for Hendo, probably the most talked up horse of the pre season..........hope he aint as good as The Liquidator....


Beaten at 1-5........interesting!

Dirty EW the 2nd fav landed though...

That's not a  ;danafish; as I wasn't on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
Interesting day today.

Debut of West Wizard for Hendo, probably the most talked up horse of the pre season..........hope he aint as good as The Liquidator....


Beaten at 1-5........interesting!

Dirty EW the 2nd fav landed though...

That's not a  ;danafish; as I wasn't on.


Betbright had 15/2 available for 5 mins last night. 3rd bet on the site and maxed at 2 ew. lol.

Prob wont get it out either now!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 04:12:27 PM
In exceedexpectations race, a friend has just rung and told me to have my max on Dansili Dutch, and I was all set to get back on the Khajally bandwagon now he back at Wolves with Quinny back on board.

Thats now 3 to avoid!!



Luverly Jubbberly!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 25, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
Adz, you're my favourite gooner today. Don't let it go to your head, though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: craigbetts on November 25, 2013, 04:24:20 PM
Cheers for the post Adz, you have to love BOG!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 25, 2013, 04:24:37 PM
some more value pie for dinner

16's into 8

7's into 4/1 joint fav

both went out like a light after being in a lovely position


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 04:47:56 PM
Cheers for the post Adz, you have to love BOG!!!

Yup. That was a welcome bonus wasn't it!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 25, 2013, 05:22:51 PM
In exceedexpectations race, a friend has just rung and told me to have my max on Dansili Dutch, and I was all set to get back on the Khajally bandwagon now he back at Wolves with Quinny back on board.

Thats now 3 to avoid!!

Congrats mate, lovely tip.  Unfortunately have poor phone coverage where i am working and missed it :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 26, 2013, 11:13:16 AM
Dont go mad on it but got a sneaky feeling for a big run from Ifbutandwhynot in the Fighting Fifth on Saturday at Newcastle.

Was tanking in the Greatwood last time when it got caught up in the faller and still finished only ten lengths of the leaders at the end.

Its fit and playing against a bunch making seasonal debuts, and if either of top two come out, i would expect he price to contract considerably. We also have the magic eight to think about if it really cuts up.

At 66s as long as we dont go mad we cant do too much damage.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 26, 2013, 07:47:50 PM
Anyone know the status of Binocular for this season?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 26, 2013, 08:02:59 PM
Not sure Camel.

There is a podcast done with The Chemist since the weekend on SL which might tell you more, not had a chance to listen yet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Don't remember them mentioning Binocular in the podcast.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 27, 2013, 08:45:23 PM
Dont go mad on it but got a sneaky feeling for a big run from Ifbutandwhynot in the Fighting Fifth on Saturday at Newcastle.

Was tanking in the Greatwood last time when it got caught up in the faller and still finished only ten lengths of the leaders at the end.

Its fit and playing against a bunch making seasonal debuts, and if either of top two come out, i would expect he price to contract considerably. We also have the magic eight to think about if it really cuts up.

At 66s as long as we dont go mad we cant do too much damage.
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Always prepared to stick my hands up when I have cocked up, but Ifbutandwhynot is declared to run in the Gerry Fielden tomorrow.

Stupidly perhaps I have gone in again. Its a handicap and again most of his oppo is gonna be first time out for the season, which I think puts him in a stronger position as he is race fit.

12s in a few places.

Potential worry, is Lordofthehouse is a monkey and has a tendency to play up at the start and may cock up the dead 8 ew play.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: crown on November 28, 2013, 03:29:28 PM
Top Bombing Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2013, 03:30:03 PM
Oi mfkn oi Adzy  :-*


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 28, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
OI OI!!!

Glad I stuck to my guns and a few of you kept the faith.

Nice when it works out the way you think it will. Pretty sure that was more a fitnes advantage that won it, along with a majestic Timmy ride, who probably thought the same.

Be nice if they turned him out again on Saturday........hate to think we wasted a few quid.... ;whistle;



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2013, 05:34:44 PM
OI OI!!!

Glad I stuck to my guns and a few of you kept the faith.

Nice when it works out the way you think it will. Pretty sure that was more a fitnes advantage that won it, along with a majestic Timmy ride, who probably thought the same.

Be nice if they turned him out again on Saturday........hate to think we wasted a few quid.... ;whistle;



I thought Murphy gave it a very good ride, loved the way he had slowed the pace down as they went out for the final circuit and i felt at that point that we had a squeak.

He also got an excellent tune out of the horse, I thought he attacked his hurdles with real gusto and gained a length or more at some.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2013, 05:41:17 PM

BOOM!

Well done Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on November 28, 2013, 07:34:36 PM
Last Kempton winner SP 7/4. Overround 137%. Available at over 4/1 on Daq at the off. Incred!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 28, 2013, 10:00:23 PM
No double dip for Ifbut on Saturday.

Quite like Cantlow at Newbs tomorrow, back with McCoy on board and Webber horses in good form.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on November 29, 2013, 11:51:58 AM
Anyone know a decent stream for today's action at Newbury that won't corrupt the PC?

Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 29, 2013, 12:22:35 PM
Anyone know a decent stream for today's action at Newbury that won't corrupt the PC?

Thanks

A min £1 bet on race with VC/Sid/Lads etc will mean you can watch the race on their sites


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 29, 2013, 12:36:03 PM
Anyone know a decent stream for today's action at Newbury that won't corrupt the PC?

Thanks

I'll fire one over when I get to my desktop.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on November 29, 2013, 12:37:08 PM
Cheers chaps. Yeah can obv watch through any of the bookies sites just nice to have an ongoing stream for any pre-Hennessy build up etc.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2013, 02:45:46 PM
Anyone know a decent stream for today's action at Newbury that won't corrupt the PC?

Thanks

I'll fire one over when I get to my desktop.

I could use one too please Marky as my old one died.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: crown on November 29, 2013, 02:58:22 PM
Quality ride from McCoy on Cantlow, Well Done Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2013, 03:01:39 PM
Well done again Adz unfortunately I missed it :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 29, 2013, 03:09:29 PM
Feels like I talk to myself on here sometimes....... ;booder;


Cant even go subscription if no one reads it! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2013, 04:16:14 PM
Feels like I talk to myself on here sometimes....... ;booder;


Cant even go subscription if no one reads it! ;)

Was too busy getting my trusty steed through it's MOT to bet on yours.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 29, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
I think you have a lot of followers the form you are in mate, even the TfT thread has quietened down lately but im sure people are thankful for your tips even if they dont post.

Well done on another winner :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on November 29, 2013, 05:26:08 PM
I think you have a lot of followers the form you are in mate, even the TfT thread has quietened down lately but im sure people are thankful for your tips even if they dont post.

Well done on another winner :)

Keep posting Adz, your disciples r following. Well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 30, 2013, 09:55:09 AM
Cheers guys.

Hennessey looks amazingly tough. I was initially on Merry King, and added to it with Highland Lodge, and with Lavelle horses running well again, I'm happy enough.

My concern is they all seem to be second season novices and all have form with each other and the handicapper has them all figured to finish close.

Whoever wins won't be a total surprise, but I have had a sneaky few quid on Betty on Cape Tribulation, who has his ground and we know has the class. It a rough house of a race and he will be well used to that, and I can see him travlling well 3 out, and a good oppo to trade at worst Got a P next to his name, but that why we can get 85s.

As I said, zero confidence, but love the challenge of these big handicaps. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 30, 2013, 10:06:52 AM
VBOL. All about the 84/1 shots. Nothing better than cheering those over the last!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 30, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
Blimey fantastic work Adz,  chicken dinners all round there.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
I quite fancy Sizing Rio @ 3/1+ in the Drinmore 'chase today.

It jumped like a stag and really impressed me last time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
Forgot there was racing on today, so just looked and Segal put up a few over there.


12:40 - Gambling Girl

13:10 - Carlingford Lough



McCoy, who must have been delighted with My Tent Or Yours at Newcastle yesterday, is primarily over to ride Jezki in the Hatton’s Grace and he will also be looking forward to Minella Foru, but I think he has a great chance of winning the Bar One Racing Drinmore Novice Chase as well on Carlingford Lough.

Normally this type of race goes to an up-and-coming novice who hasn’t had much experience over fences, but I would make an exception for Carlingford Lough, who won the Galway Plate in August and was second in the Kerry National under top weight last time.

Clearly that is the best chase form on offer and he also had some high-class handicap hurdle form, at least on a par with the best any of his rivals could muster on the figures.

I think he will like the going more than Don Cossack, and as good as Sizing Rio has looked, he has won two weak races and I think he would prefer further and softer ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 01, 2013, 12:27:51 PM
I quite fancy Sizing Rio @ 3/1+ in the Drinmore 'chase today.

It jumped like a stag and really impressed me last time.


I liked Don Cossack after his debut jumping, but didnt back it up last time when having every chance, so reckon you could be on a winner here Ralph. Fair bit of money for JPs tho.

I strangely like one in the last at Carlisle, the lady ams race...I know!!...

Backed it at 12s last night and been backed to give me more hope. Knight Valliant is always ridden by Miss Butterworth and probably her pride and joy. C&D winner and more experienced than most of the other riders, and a reasonable first time out record, I reckon she is worth a little ew interest even at 8s


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2013, 01:32:40 PM
Sizing Rio was slightly disappointing there and weak in the market too.

Probably would prefer some soft in the going description and 3M.

Not giving up on him yet though...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 01, 2013, 03:56:00 PM
I quite fancy Sizing Rio @ 3/1+ in the Drinmore 'chase today.

It jumped like a stag and really impressed me last time.


I liked Don Cossack after his debut jumping, but didnt back it up last time when having every chance, so reckon you could be on a winner here Ralph. Fair bit of money for JPs tho.

I strangely like one in the last at Carlisle, the lady ams race...I know!!...

Backed it at 12s last night and been backed to give me more hope. Knight Valliant is always ridden by Miss Butterworth and probably her pride and joy. C&D winner and more experienced than most of the other riders, and a reasonable first time out record, I reckon she is worth a little ew interest even at 8s


Just seemed to blow up having travelled well. Still, no damage and small profit, keeps the bandwagon rolling on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 04, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
putting up one i have backed before on thread JIROFT in the very tricky 1.00 Lingfield

Backed it on uk debut at 100+ betfair sp ran a cracker to run 5th in the epsom dash, been a bit disappointing since

Have dug a bit deeper and seems could just be best fresh

Including Italian form

111305 career record after 60+ day break

Also the stats suggest much better in a smallish field

Likely to drift again today have had a small bet at betfair sp needs to lead to have anychance though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 04, 2013, 12:43:28 PM
some nice winners adz of late well done

Butler banned for 5 years

Amazed the horses pumped full of stanazol were allowed to run for the second half of the year - six wins between them included a Listed race

farce at times this game


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 04, 2013, 05:35:26 PM
had the pace and the right trip just nowhere near good enough

winner massively improved


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 04, 2013, 08:29:04 PM
Tom Segal has just put Al Ferof up for the KG.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on December 07, 2013, 11:53:03 AM
any recomendations for the Becher please?

see the ground has just been changed to soft?

armchair viewer seeks expertise.

ty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 07, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
any recomendations for the Becher please?

see the ground has just been changed to soft?

armchair viewer seeks expertise.

ty

Skybet paying 5 places.

Hopefully that helps :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2013, 11:58:23 AM
Tom Segal is on Rose of the Moon and Storm Survivor


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 10, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
Anyone know the status of Binocular for this season?

Been retired, Keith.


BINOCULAR, winner of the 2010 Champion Hurdle, has been retired after he was diagnosed with a heart problem which trainer Nicky Henderson said went some way to explaining the nine-year-old's below-par performances last season.

The JP McManus-owned hurdler, last seen finishing 28 lengths behind Hurricane Fly in this year's Champion Hurdle in one of only two starts last term, had not returned to training this season while he underwent further veterinary examination in Ireland.

Henderson said: "Extensive tests have been done on him and it appears he has a heart issue that is not going away so the decision was taken to retire him. I think you would have to conclude that there was something underlying that we couldn't detect that would easily explain some of last season's performances."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 12, 2013, 07:52:18 AM
I like Pindar today up at Newcastle in the 1.20.  It's a consistent animal and I thought 4/1 would have been a fair price for an e/w punt to nothing. It's a tricky race but I also like the jockey and was surprised to see 11/2 available with VC this morning. I have thrown a pony e/w at it and may well have a few pound more later today once there is a proper market to take note of.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 12, 2013, 06:26:22 PM
Who said nothing is free in life, just won 2 tickets to Ascot next Friday from betfair Whoop whoop!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 13, 2013, 10:40:11 AM
Who said nothing is free in life, just won 2 tickets to Ascot next Friday from betfair Whoop whoop!

The 2 tickets i won are for Friday 20th December at Ascot in the premier enclosure, unfortunately i cannot make it that day. It would be a shame for them to go to waste so i am quite happy to give them to whoever wants them. First come first gets, post that you want them in the thread then DM me a postal address and as soon as i receive them i'll send them on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 13, 2013, 01:02:59 PM
Who said nothing is free in life, just won 2 tickets to Ascot next Friday from betfair Whoop whoop!

The 2 tickets i won are for Friday 20th December at Ascot in the premier enclosure, unfortunately i cannot make it that day. It would be a shame for them to go to waste so i am quite happy to give them to whoever wants them. First come first gets, post that you want them in the thread then DM me a postal address and as soon as i receive them i'll send them on.

tickets gone.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2013, 12:19:14 PM
Said I wouldn't post about Brookhouse horses on TFT, but the Welsh Nat has been Goulanes target all year.

He arrives in tip top form. At 16s + I cant put anyone off.

My serious money has been on Merry King for some time, but I have some tasty numbers on Goulanes at fancy prices, and will be cheering him if the pair jump the last upsides.

PS, not at Cheppy, as I hate the place......full of W......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 28, 2013, 12:33:52 PM
Said I wouldn't post about Brookhouse horses on TFT, but the Welsh Nat has been Goulanes target all year.

He arrives in tip top form. At 16s + I cant put anyone off.

My serious money has been on Merry King for some time, but I have some tasty numbers on Goulanes at fancy prices, and will be cheering him if the pair jump the last upsides.

PS, not at Cheppy, as I hate the place......full of W......

Goulanes 22/1 with several, including BMU.

Dabbleage has taken place.

Thanks Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2013, 08:27:34 PM
Bleeding after race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
Bleeding after race.

Weren't we all...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 28, 2013, 09:37:09 PM
Any views on Leopard 3:35 value at risk 11/8 with b365 10/11 with paddy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2013, 09:41:49 PM
Any views on Leopard 3:35 value at risk 11/8 with b365 10/11 with paddy?

At those kind of prices I am happy to just watch the race :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2013, 09:47:04 PM
Any views on Leopard 3:35 value at risk 11/8 with b365 10/11 with paddy?


You can do that all day every day Omm. I could give you 20 plus similar price discrepancies every day given the right time of day.

When it comes to NH Flat races once you start getting penalties, and each horse potentially improving masses between races, you're on your own mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 29, 2013, 07:43:28 AM
Any views on Leopard 3:35 value at risk 11/8 with b365 10/11 with paddy?


You can do that all day every day Omm. I could give you 20 plus similar price discrepancies every day given the right time of day.

When it comes to NH Flat races once you start getting penalties, and each horse potentially improving masses between races, you're on your own mate.

That's all I need to know, thanks Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on December 29, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
I've had my biggest bets of the NH season so far today - and backed Our Conner at 11/4 and again for the Champion Hurdle.  There's not much justification for this from a Grade One form perspective, other than the noise coming from those very close to Hughes stable is incredibly bullish - and a number of very shrewd judges have gone in and will be going in to have similar bets today.

Don't expect or want anyone to follow - just thought I'd share for sweats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 29, 2013, 11:00:20 AM
I've had my biggest bets of the NH season so far today - and backed Our Conner at 11/4 and again for the Champion Hurdle.  There's not much justification for this from a Grade One form perspective, other than the noise coming from those very close to Hughes stable is incredibly bullish - and a number of very shrewd judges have gone in and will be going in to have similar bets today.

Don't expect or want anyone to follow - just thought I'd share for sweats.

Bobby1 will back that too - his lad is named Connor, & Phil is from Yorkshire, so he is always on about "Our Connor".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2013, 11:22:55 AM
I've had my biggest bets of the NH season so far today - and backed Our Conner at 11/4 and again for the Champion Hurdle.  There's not much justification for this from a Grade One form perspective, other than the noise coming from those very close to Hughes stable is incredibly bullish - and a number of very shrewd judges have gone in and will be going in to have similar bets today.

Don't expect or want anyone to follow - just thought I'd share for sweats.


Different stages of the season admittedly, but at the prices I saw last night Our Connor had to be backed when you consider he is shorter than The Fly for the CH.

If his bubble bursts today so be it, but with the comments of our friendly jester added to the above, it's a get stuck in job for me too! GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.


You may well be right Ralph, and an inherent ability to get HF wrong all the time probably helps me come to this conclusion. At some point HF will have the Long Run, Kauto Star factor and go to the well once too often. 10 in two days time and been racing at the top table for 7 years now. We shall see. Almost trying to convince myself now!!

Great race either way!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2013, 11:59:32 AM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.


You may well be right Ralph, and an inherent ability to get HF wrong all the time probably helps me come to this conclusion. At some point HF will have the Long Run, Kauto Star factor and go to the well once too often. 10 in two days time and been racing at the top table for 7 years now. We shall see. Almost trying to convince myself now!!

Great race either way!!

Absolutely fascinating contest.

I won't actually be playing today but have a vested interest in my CH portfolio.

Billy's are offering 11/1 for OC to win both today and the CH.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on December 29, 2013, 12:22:25 PM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.

I think your right Ralph he has got a lot to prove - that's why I posted it as an opinion rather than a recommendation -could easily end up with egg on face and love the Fly as so many do.

Will be great to watch - just vibes we've had are really good and let's January say pretty close to stable; however impossible to tip something up with and say amazing value in a Grade One against one of the top five hurdles ever.

Will be a great spectacle hopwfully


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
I couldn't resist having a couple of quid on Sizing Rio in the novices' 'chase at 3.05pm.

I said after it's last run that I felt it needed some cut in the ground and a longer trip and it has both of those today, however it is getting it's first run over 3M in a grade 1 contest.

I am encouraged by the fact that de Bromhead is not afraid to pitch him in at this level and also by the fancy prices available.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on December 29, 2013, 01:09:44 PM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.

I know he's exuberant as a rule but he looked fizzy at Naas a couple of months ago and didn't see it out. I wouldn't back him today until I've seen him to post.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 29, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
I also like Our Connor today.  I think he will strip fitter for has last outing on the flat and I don't necessarily agree with the comments of that last race.  I had to rewatch it because at the time I thought he was given a rather easy race and having watched the race again today when seeing the suggestion on here I still think the same. 

Good luck to all the backers. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
And still champion...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on December 29, 2013, 02:17:27 PM
Proverbial egg on face - no excuses, what an animal that thing is - just incredible


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 29, 2013, 02:18:18 PM
Made that look very easy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 29, 2013, 04:42:20 PM
"Dessie Hughes, trainer of Our Conor, was satisfied with last season's Triumph Hurdle winner on what was his first start over hurdles since the Cheltenham Festival in March.

He said: "I felt coming here if he got to within a few lengths (of Hurricane Fly) it would be a good run. It's his first run over hurdles in eight months and his first time against older horses. I was very happy with the run and I think he'll come on for it.""




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2013, 05:02:28 PM
Not seen race yet, but seen result.

Yet again I get The Fly wrong..........lump on for the Champ Hurdle........muhahaaaaaaa!!! ;izimbra;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 31, 2013, 09:11:42 PM
Only just realised that Segal has a couple for tomorrow.

Musselburgh

14:10 - New Year's Eve



Cheltenham

14:30 - Carrickboy


Happy New Year punters!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 01, 2014, 12:22:54 AM
Many Happy Returns to all of the horses in training.

 ;charmaine;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on January 01, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
King Rolfe runs today in 12.30 at Catterick.

Dropped to class 4 and upped in distance from 2 miles.

Should have a good chance today.

I'm stuck in London so can't be there to see it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 01, 2014, 12:24:39 PM

What is the backstory to the Davy Russell thing?


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 01, 2014, 12:39:52 PM

What is the backstory to the Davy Russell thing?


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

Think it is more a case of snapping up Cooper before he goes elsewere

Similar to the Gosden Buick case?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 01, 2014, 09:00:21 PM
Has the mystery owner Rakebackmyhorse.com ish, the one with all the horse with Violet Jordan, jacked it in?

I see a couple of their old horses Brown Pete today, and Ammenable tomorrow have gone to Anne Stokel.

Out of the frying pan...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 02, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
he got warned off a while ago


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 02, 2014, 06:03:26 PM
Did anyone hear any news of Sizing Rio since it was PU at Leopardstown?

It was going nicely well in touch with the leaders and about a mile to go when it went wrong but I've not seen any report on him since.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 09, 2014, 12:07:39 AM
Looking forward to The Dubai Carnival which starts again at Meydan on Thursday.

I have been looking at trainer stats, jockey stats and have concentrated on the past 3 carnivals to try and form some systems i am going to follow for small money.

The first system i will implement is with Goldophin runners for there number one trainer Saeed bin suroor.

Goes without saying they like winners here :) But Bin Suroor follows a nice pattern in how he targets his horses for the carnival.

His horses have an excellent record "first run in the UAE" of that season, on the second run of the season the record is pretty por the third run if there is one shows a record more similar to the first run. It is worth noting that Al Zarooni had a similar record (ahem) so Appleby may follow suit however that is hearsay and i fancy the main man will want to make sure he grabs a bit more limelight this time around.

These stats suggest he has the horses 100% ready for there first runs in Dubai but possibly as a result of over training they bounce or comeback to quickly for the second run before again running well on the third start. For the purposes of this i will be backing the Bin Surror animals on first run at the carnival blind and then leaving them alone there after (there is an argument to lay them second run back as well)

Over the years the "supertrainer" pops up in Dubai usually having 1 or 2 excellent seasons with improbable winners with previously average animals before fading away never to be seen again. Trying to find out who the next "chosen" trainer is the hard bit but i think i may have found one.

AHMAD BIN HARMASH was an assistant trainer to former super trainer Mubarak Bin Shafya (a trainer who has served a drugs ban since his hot spell and comeback at a below average level) Whether or not Harmash has used some of the ahem methods of his former boss i have no idea but he has made a promising start this season.

Two winners from 19 does not sound great but he has had a further 9 places and most have been fair/big prices. Now this is risky as the competition gets a lot tougher for the carnival.

However on paper he looks to have some interesting animals and i will be backing all of his runners blind for the first 4 meetings and then reviewing the performance. N.b He also appears to have the services of Adrie De Vries an excellent Meydan jockey for the carnival which is another positive.

The third system i will be following is a very basic one. Silvestre De Souza is a very good jockey and has once again been based in the UAE for 3 months already giving him vital extra preparation time for the carnival. He has ridden at an amazing 48% strike rate in the UAE the past few months and in the last two carnivals has made very fast starts in the first half of the meeting. This could be due to riding the Bin Suroor animals, the fact he is a very good jockey, his track knowledge or just a bit of randomness. I think there is enough in it to follow again blind for the first half of the carnival.


SYSTEM 1 Back all Saeed bin suroor runners first run in the UAE at the carnival. ALL CARNIVAL.

SYSTEM 2 Back all Ahmad Bin Harmash runners at the carnival. To be reviewed after Thursday, 30th Jan meeting.

SYSTEM 3 Back all Silvestre De Souza rides. Upto and including meeting on Thursday, 13 February, 2014.

I have more confidence in the 1st and 3rd systems so will be playing them to a mythical £10 stake, System 2 will be recorded to a mythical £5 stake. The first few meets will see a lot of system 1 and system 3 clashes as sds will be riding most first run horses for saeed bin suroor.

For the purposes of this i will record them as separate bets.

QUALIFIERS FOR WEEK 1 THURSDAY 9TH JAN 2014

SYSTEM 1

3.05 DESERT LAW
3.40 CLON BRULEE + 3.40 TRANSPARENT
4.15 MY FREEDOM
4.50 DO IT ALL
5.25 SHURUQ
6.00 FREE WHEELING + COMPLICATE

SYSTEM 2

3.40 IZAAJ + BUSKER
4.50 TARBAWI
5.25 SAMURAI SWORD
6.00 IGUAZU FALLS


SYSTEM 3

3.05 DESERT LAW
3.40 TRANSAPRENT
4.15 MY FREEDOM
4.50 DO IT ALL
5.25 SHURUQ
6.00 COMPLICATE

RESULTS FOR WEEK 1

SYSTEM 1

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =

SYSTEM 2

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =

SYSTEM 3

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =



All returns will calculated to betfair sp with a 5% commision rate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 09, 2014, 05:27:50 PM

This is currently being shown Live, on Sky Sports 1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 09, 2014, 05:29:19 PM

This is currently being shown Live, on Sky Sports 1.

and appleby is following al zarooni from last season and sds is having a rare shocker

hopefully he has saved himself for the 6pm :)

luckily the supertrainer has had a winner at a fair price so should mean overall at worst a small profit for today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 09, 2014, 07:35:09 PM
RESULTS FOR WEEK 1

SYSTEM 1

PROFIT/LOSS = 0pts

SYSTEM 2

PROFIT/LOSS = +55pts

SYSTEM 3

PROFIT/LOSS = +10pts


a good start especially when you consider sds did not ride particularly well for whatever reason and the bin suroor horses seemed a bit flat, was a bit galling to see appleby win the first two!

The super trainer came up trumps early on with a 16-1 winner and a 14-1 second in the last





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 11, 2014, 09:39:39 PM
 Saphir Du Rheu is the horse worth an ante post bet, has been quite impressive last couple of runs? NRNB on the world hurdle 10-1?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 11, 2014, 10:14:40 PM
Saphir Du Rheu is the horse worth an ante post bet, has been quite impressive last couple of runs? NRNB on the world hurdle 10-1?

Not sure that they'll want to run it against Big Bucks, so would Coral Cup not be more likely?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 11, 2014, 11:56:01 PM
Saphir Du Rheu is the horse worth an ante post bet, has been quite impressive last couple of runs? NRNB on the world hurdle 10-1?

Not sure that they'll want to run it against Big Bucks, so would Coral Cup not be more likely?


He's not stopping at the end of his races and the handicapper is likely to clobber him again. Looks for all the world like the BB replacement to me, but with BB and Celestial Halo in the WH already I would suspect the Pertemps will be the target, if he goes to Chelts. The extra distance make eek out the extra improvement to offset his rise in ratings IMO.

Defo a horse with choices tho and NRNB all the way if you must


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 13, 2014, 05:04:28 PM
1.45 southwell tommorow is an interesting race

lots of good youngish performers in here

NOBLE CITIZEN is interesting especially at 14-s with hills

Has two "hidden" runs on the dirt in Dubai way back when which suggest Southwell will not be a problem, classy compared to this lot think 14-s is a bit big



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 13, 2014, 08:50:10 PM
The Cheltenham selection from Segal this week is Al Ferof in the Gold Cup


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 14, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
1.45 southwell tommorow is an interesting race

lots of good youngish performers in here

NOBLE CITIZEN is interesting especially at 14-s with hills

Has two "hidden" runs on the dirt in Dubai way back when which suggest Southwell will not be a problem, classy compared to this lot think 14-s is a bit big



Pie anyone?

Good shout, whatever happens!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Eso Kral on January 14, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
1.45 southwell tommorow is an interesting race

lots of good youngish performers in here

NOBLE CITIZEN is interesting especially at 14-s with hills

Has two "hidden" runs on the dirt in Dubai way back when which suggest Southwell will not be a problem, classy compared to this lot think 14-s is a bit big


Too good John
TYVM


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 14, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Well done horsey, even the commentators on ATR cant believe it won - YOU KNEW, YOU KNEW! Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 14, 2014, 03:02:22 PM
No pie tonight   ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 14, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Thanks all

gutsy win especially up the usually dreaded far rail



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 14, 2014, 05:22:10 PM
Well done horsey. Unfortunately I missed it :(

Anyone know why the CH market is suspended on betty?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 15, 2014, 04:19:01 PM
WEEK 2


SYSTEM 1 Back all Saeed bin suroor runners first run in the UAE at the carnival. ALL CARNIVAL.

SYSTEM 2 Back all Ahmad Bin Harmash runners at the carnival. To be reviewed after Thursday, 30th Jan meeting.

SYSTEM 3 Back all Silvestre De Souza rides. Upto and including meeting on Thursday, 13 February, 2014.

I have more confidence in the 1st and 3rd systems so will be playing them to a mythical £10 stake, System 2 will be recorded to a mythical £5 stake. The first few meets will see a lot of system 1 and system 3 clashes as sds will be riding most first run horses for saeed bin suroor.

For the purposes of this i will record them as separate bets.

QUALIFIERS FOR WEEK 2 THURSDAY 16TH JAN 2014

SYSTEM 1

Haafaguinea + Saxo Jack 2.30

Emirates Flyer 3.40

Tha'ir + Code of Honour 4.15

Validus 5.25



SYSTEM 2

NO RUNNERS


SYSTEM 3

14:30 Meydan - Saxo Jack (FR)
15:05 Meydan - Autumn Lily (USA)
15:40 Meydan - Emirates Flyer
16:15 Meydan - Tha'ir (IRE)
16:50 Meydan - Hitchens (IRE)
17:25 Meydan - Validus

RESULTS FOR WEEK 2

SYSTEM 1

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =

SYSTEM 2

BET AMOUNT = no qualifiers

BET RETURNS = no qualifiers

PROFIT/LOSS = no qualifiers

SYSTEM 3

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 15, 2014, 08:22:38 PM
Been advised to have a good bet on Intrigo in the last. 12 with 365. Expect it to go!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on January 15, 2014, 08:30:01 PM
edited found


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 16, 2014, 07:01:56 PM
WEEK 2


SYSTEM 1 Back all Saeed bin suroor runners first run in the UAE at the carnival. ALL CARNIVAL.

SYSTEM 2 Back all Ahmad Bin Harmash runners at the carnival. To be reviewed after Thursday, 30th Jan meeting.

SYSTEM 3 Back all Silvestre De Souza rides. Upto and including meeting on Thursday, 13 February, 2014.

I have more confidence in the 1st and 3rd systems so will be playing them to a mythical £10 stake, System 2 will be recorded to a mythical £5 stake. The first few meets will see a lot of system 1 and system 3 clashes as sds will be riding most first run horses for saeed bin suroor.

For the purposes of this i will record them as separate bets.

QUALIFIERS FOR WEEK 2 THURSDAY 16TH JAN 2014

SYSTEM 1

Haafaguinea + Saxo Jack 2.30

Emirates Flyer 3.40

Tha'ir + Code of Honour 4.15

Validus 5.25



SYSTEM 2

NO RUNNERS


SYSTEM 3

14:30 Meydan - Saxo Jack (FR)
15:05 Meydan - Autumn Lily (USA)
15:40 Meydan - Emirates Flyer
16:15 Meydan - Tha'ir (IRE)
16:50 Meydan - Hitchens (IRE)
17:25 Meydan - Validus

RESULTS FOR WEEK 2

SYSTEM 1

BET AMOUNT = 60

BET RETURNS = 45

PROFIT/LOSS = -15

SYSTEM 2

BET AMOUNT = no qualifiers

BET RETURNS = no qualifiers

PROFIT/LOSS = no qualifiers

SYSTEM 3

BET AMOUNT = 60

BET RETURNS = 45

PROFIT/LOSS = -15





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 19, 2014, 01:14:05 PM
super trainer had two winners at Meydan yesterday

Unfourtantley i am doing carnival only :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 01:53:43 PM
Some crazy gambles going on for Donovan today, his first one just hacked up at Lingfield backed from 10-1 yesterday to evens, previous group 2 winner. Another goes 16:25 Kempton, now odds on, previously it ran its last race at 66-1!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 02:52:47 PM

Should be well rested after 700 days rest!!!

Beaten over 100 lengths in last 3 races

Last race, last of 13 at 66/1 class 6

Best price 1/2

Funny old game...........


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 03:20:20 PM

Should be well rested after 700 days rest!!!

Beaten over 100 lengths in last 3 races

Last race, last of 13 at 66/1 class 6

Best price 1/2

Funny old game...........

Probably not even the same horse!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 04:47:20 PM

All down to "low key" now then


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

All down to "low key" now then

Saw the result not the race, all seems very dodgy to me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 05:13:04 PM

All down to "low key" now then

Saw the result not the race, all seems very dodgy to me

Low Key Kemp 6.25  supposedly the next leg

Nick Luck reckons its the biggest coup since the 2010 Barney Curley gamble


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 05:17:55 PM

All down to "low key" now then

Saw the result not the race, all seems very dodgy to me


Not sure why its dodgy. If you as an owner have the patience to pay for your horse to sit idle for 2 years while its handicap comes down, you need to win a lot to pay for having to shell out without enjoyment or return all that time.

Good on "whoever" has orchestrated this coup I say.

I just hope that when David Williams of Ladbrokes says "we have measures inplace to counter this sort of thing" doesn't mean they can cancel multis etc and worm out of it. That would leave a very nasty taste.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 05:30:20 PM
1.93 on betfair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:31:01 PM
1.93 on betfair

You laying Tal?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 05:31:21 PM
Barney got an interest in all the coups horses


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 05:31:38 PM

All down to "low key" now then

Saw the result not the race, all seems very dodgy to me


Not sure why its dodgy. If you as an owner have the patience to pay for your horse to sit idle for 2 years while its handicap comes down, you need to win a lot to pay for having to shell out without enjoyment or return all that time.

Good on "whoever" has orchestrated this coup I say.

I just hope that when David Williams of Ladbrokes says "we have measures inplace to counter this sort of thing" doesn't mean they can cancel multis etc and worm out of it. That would leave a very nasty taste.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9128374/first-three-deliver-in-gamble


With you on that Adz, of course whoever gets the lot deserves it and should keep it as long as everything is above board, when watching the first race Jason was saying the horse had won a group 2 a couple of years ago and had tumbled down the ratings since, but why all of a sudden with a change of trainer does the horses start winning? I do not even know half about horses that you know and I'm probably a bit ignorant as to learning the ins and outs of it all, but something like this gets reported generally and it just doesn't (IMO) look good on the industry to non horsey type people.

Anyway good luck to those that need it ( or not as the case maybe)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 05:32:16 PM

:D

Behave!

Edit: even money now. Where's that cash out button?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:34:27 PM

May as well take the opportunity if there is one?   If the price is bound to be too short, we lay right?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 05:35:05 PM

May as well take the opportunity if there is one?   If the price is bound to be too short, we lay right?

Ladbrokes are 1/4


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 05:35:30 PM
I wonder if PV is in on the act


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:38:30 PM

May as well take the opportunity if there is one?   If the price is bound to be too short, we lay right?

Ladbrokes are 1/4

Ladbrokes are a bookmaker?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:39:57 PM
Ha, that oddschecker is hilarious for that race. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 05:42:37 PM
Looking at 1/3 with the bookies and Major Stevens at a push with betfair. Can't both be right


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:47:24 PM
Anyone near a Coral shop should back Pass The Time each way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 05:51:51 PM

Just had a few rupees e/w Time Square


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 06:01:01 PM
#Invalid YouTube Link#


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 06:13:06 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIl89hQ-Olk

Edit.  Got there


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 06:20:38 PM
#Invalid YouTube Link#

Not sure why it's not coming up but it was the Barney Curley link on YouTube where he Bury's McCrick and ex jockey turned journo can't remember his name, title is Barney Curley retires, if someone can put it on its great to watch.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rfgqqabc on January 22, 2014, 06:27:13 PM
On a bit of everything now. Hills offer a Place (2 places) market. Low Key 1/20. I really would like to be on their side in that market!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on January 22, 2014, 06:29:14 PM
Is this horse now a lay given the price?  If it was forecast to be 7/2 and we can lay it at 1.92 only issue I can see is that the books are round the 1/3 mark.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on January 22, 2014, 06:32:23 PM

course books not going to get skinned by ew thieves opened 4/6


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 06:40:57 PM

Wiiiiiiiiiii Barney


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 06:42:10 PM
Anyone near a Coral shop should back Pass The Time each way.


Do you work for Corals Doobs?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on January 22, 2014, 06:43:53 PM
I layed the gamble :(  but I did back Stag Hill for the place :) 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 06:44:43 PM
So how much do you reckon someone has made today?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 06:46:57 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 06:47:12 PM
Anyone near a Coral shop should back Pass The Time each way.


Do you work for Corals Doobs?

Was <5/1on machine about 1.75 the place.  Guess I pay their wages.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 06:51:28 PM
Anyone near a Coral shop should back Pass The Time each way.


Do you work for Corals Doobs?

Was <5/1on machine about 1.75 the place.  Guess I pay their wages.  


LOL, suckered me in, so I must too!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 06:52:22 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55

Would have thought The Wonga Coup was more apt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 06:53:34 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55

Would have thought The Wonga Coup was more apt

Callisto 821 days since last run, thats form of the day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 06:55:05 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55

Would have thought The Wonga Coup was more apt

Callisto 821 days since last run, thats form of the day

11/8 now so you might be right! Doesn't have the suitable name tho. :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on January 22, 2014, 07:15:35 PM
Did my money on bad ew double. Couldn't care less. Bless Barney's little cotton socks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 07:36:45 PM

Corals think between £3-4 million industry wide the damage

Corals are in for £250k


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 07:41:11 PM

Corals think between £3-4 million industry wide the damage

Corals are in for £250k

Wowzers!

Still, Cheltenham in a couple of months


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 07:51:06 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55

Would have thought The Wonga Coup was more apt

Callisto 821 days since last run, thats form of the day

11/8 now so you might be right! Doesn't have the suitable name tho. :D

11/10 now...or 3/1 on betfair...

Is this a case of the punters putting 2 and 2 together to get 5?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 07:56:44 PM
Go on Tal.


Miss the four weddings and go to the Funeral!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 07:57:49 PM
Go on Tal.


Miss the four weddings and go to the Funeral!!

I didn't miss all four weddings, but good point well made!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 08:10:33 PM

Callisto wins to seal the day off nicely


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
If that was the last leg, thats amazing.

Superb!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
I've been to more unpleasant funerals.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 22, 2014, 08:31:14 PM
I think this is a good read

http://www.theirishfield.ie/site/article.php?id=3895&cid=5


not sure if you all agree with this

sean boyce ‏@boyciesbetting 3m

(1/2) Extraordinary patience & discipline behind today's coup but...Improving a proven class 6 or 7 horse by 28lbs is great training...

sean boyce ‏@boyciesbetting 3m

Starting with proven 80, 90, 100+ rated flat horses and getting them dropped into class 6/7. That's something rather different...imho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 22, 2014, 08:35:20 PM
Curley is not taking money from bookmakers he's taking it from other punters.

All it will mean is it is even more difficult to get bets on (if that's possible) at early prices and accounts will be even more restricted.

Barney Curley is not a punters hero, he's a parasite.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 22, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Not a big view on Curley one way or the other but love this quote from him

 “It's not for the money, it's for the buzz. Beat the system, you know, beat those bookmakers, those smart-arses. You go into a betting shop and see them robbing these poor fellows, with these gaming machines. They're as addictive as crack cocaine. You see them coming back to the counter with their credit cards, for another tenner. Of course the great thing about those machines is that number nine won't go to even money and win five lengths."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 08:59:11 PM
He's just an exaggerated version of what trainers have done in dogs and horses for as long as there has been racing.

As a punter, you have to make the false assumption every horse and every jockey is primed and trying.

I would have more of an issue if other jockeys/trainers in the races were in on it. It doesn't help the image of the sport, though, and that's the biggest thing for me, I suppose.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 09:03:49 PM
I think if most of us as gamblers were in a similar position we would attempt the same. Especially the Pro's amongst us, organised, methodical, spotting weaknesses etc!

I suspect the difference is many may not have his patience/money to engineer such a tickle.

Certainly don't see him as a parasite. Pretty sure if anyone found an angle, they wouldn't think too much about the rest of the punting public either!

We are all here to win money aren't we??


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on January 22, 2014, 09:10:47 PM
Yes, I have to disagree with you as well Keith, unless of course you have had some personal interaction with him that merits the tag. 

He is doing no different than what we do when we act on information we receive - it is just exaggerated, meticulously planned and delivered with far more funds available to keep the horses off the course and plan the coup.  You can argue every time were involved in a gamble with information from a stable it has exactly the same impact  on those who don't have the information.  Thats the nature of the handicap system which "allows" such things in the way man and horse work together.

If I had the skill, inclination and funds I would do exactly the same.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 09:12:17 PM
I think if most of us as gamblers were in a similar position we would attempt the same. Especially the Pro's amongst us, organised, methodical, spotting weaknesses etc!

I suspect the difference is many may not have his patience/money to engineer such a tickle.

Certainly don't see him as a parasite. Pretty sure if anyone found an angle, they wouldn't think too much about the rest of the punting public either!

We are all here to win money aren't we??

Well put


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on January 22, 2014, 11:44:25 PM
Doesn't this scheme involve quite a lot of non-trying to get your handicap mark down? That's why its naughty, imo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 11:53:24 PM
Doesn't this scheme involve quite a lot of non-trying to get your handicap mark down? That's why its naughty, imo.

Seems like it to me, Horses that don't perform will go down the handicap, that in reality can be engineered and the normal ice cream punter is doing his or her money along the way. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 12:04:37 AM
If i was annoyed at today i would be more inclined to ask the handicapper questions without whom this could not have happened (it could but not as confidently)

John Porter Stakes 2012

Eye of the Tiger beaten "a distance" dropped 11lb, artic cosmos beaten a distance +83 lengths not dropped a 1lb

Newmarket handicap 6/5/12

EOTT beaten 41 lengths dropped 8lbs Charles Camoin beaten 41.5 lengths dropped 3lbs

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Benm4gsIEAAW_ZE.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BennLaOIEAAik8a.jpg)

spot the tiger!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 04:48:17 AM
Doesn't this scheme involve quite a lot of non-trying to get your handicap mark down? That's why its naughty, imo.


In a perfect world, yes, but I could probably find you upwards of 20 rides a day where similar happens but not so obviously.

At least with Barney horses, if you know your racing, you know it's happening.

Is that fair, maybe not, but like in any game or industry you pay to learn. I don't just go bundling into the FOREX market and punt stuff, and then moan when I make a loss, when regular traders can see all the signs, and it's no different with Curley stuff.

At the end of the day it's 4 races on one day of the year on a horrible Wednesday January afternoon. Unless I'm wrong, there will be plenty more racing this year, and I quite enjoyed the whole episode.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 23, 2014, 07:11:49 AM


I did laugh at this piece in The Telegraph.......




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/10590835/Barney-Curley-linked-to-gamble-that-hits-bookmakers-for-millions.html


Specifically, this line......



Ladbrokes were another firm said to have minimised their exposure after eagle-eyed traders noticed the significance of early moves in the day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JoeBeevers on January 23, 2014, 10:00:16 AM
When I was about 10 or 11 my dad pointed out BC to me in the paddock at Lingfield Park. I went up and asked him to sign my race card and asked him if he had a winner for me. I thought that he wouldn't steer a ten year old wrong with his pocket money. He gave me a horse which I then found out was 8/13 in a six horse race. I had £65 of the £80 I had in my pocket on it. It finished sixth.

Keith might have a point.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 11:32:54 AM
V surprised that some of our more respected members think Mr Curley is on his own, or a mnority here.

Only last week whilst watching a horse from a particular stable with a friend, the conversation with owners son was

son "should I back this we must have a good chance of reversing the form with x, with the experience we gained last time etc"

trainer "no, dont back him today etc"

son "I thought you said we would bet x next time out, we are the better horse. I brought my punting boots?"

trainer "oh we are, we just wont today"


And for all the world I could never have told you that horse wasn't trying.

It goes on all the time chaps, and naive to think otherwise, right or wrong.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on January 23, 2014, 12:24:45 PM
V surprised that some of our more respected members think Mr Curley is on his own, or a mnority here.

Only last week whilst watching a horse from a particular stable with a friend, the conversation with owners son was

son "should I back this we must have a good chance of reversing the form with x, with the experience we gained last time etc"

trainer "no, dont back him today etc"

son "I thought you said we would bet x next time out, we are the better horse. I brought my punting boots?"

trainer "oh we are, we just wont today"


And for all the world I could never have told you that horse wasn't trying.

It goes on all the time chaps, and naive to think otherwise, right or wrong.

I'm sure we all know this goes on. In fact, with the way handicaps are, you'd be daft to think it didn't given the big incentives for cheating. But it shouldn't go on, and people who are caught doing it should be warned off. Curley has been pretty blatant. Why should he be allowed to take part in racing any more?

I think the BHA lost a lot of heart for tackling it when they couldn't get Fallon prosecuted.

It's not just 4 races on a wet Wednesday- the real crime is all the races that these horses didn't try in to set the coup up. That's where the fraud is.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 23, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 12:55:32 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.

ex John Butler and before that Howling?

Would imagine Mandy may not have had anything/much to do with this horse :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 23, 2014, 01:00:34 PM
Aaah, the old John Butler connection again. Really fancy Tijuca for this, so sigh @ Barney and his endless successful coups.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 01:04:27 PM
i 'ate you butler


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 01:56:34 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.

ex John Butler and before that Howling?

Would imagine Mandy may not have had anything/much to do with this horse :)

Justr looking at that pipers piping and the other horse the trainer has got in the race - Prohibition was the subject to a massive market move last week where it went of fav from opening double figures. what do you think of its chances here? Could last week have been a ploy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Aaah, the old John Butler connection again. Really fancy Tijuca for this, so sigh @ Barney and his endless successful coups.


17:00, Kempton Park
Ed de Giles
Tijuca
Thu 23rd Jan 2014
Would have a good chance today as long as the Mandy Rowland-trained Pipers Piping isn't as good as the betting indicates.
 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 05:16:44 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.

ex John Butler and before that Howling?

Would imagine Mandy may not have had anything/much to do with this horse :)

Justr looking at that pipers piping and the other horse the trainer has got in the race - Prohibition was the subject to a massive market move last week where it went of fav from opening double figures. what do you think of its chances here? Could last week have been a ploy?


Good spot Omm. Its a game eh!!

Brilliant


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on January 23, 2014, 05:21:16 PM

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 7f Hcap    Prohibition    Back    33521021781    23-Jan-14
16:59         C    27    20.00         27    520.00

 ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 05:34:31 PM

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 7f Hcap    Prohibition    Back    33521021781    23-Jan-14
16:59         C    27    20.00         27    520.00

 ;bigadz;



Top of the  ;bigadz; class.

Almost worthy of your own moniker


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on January 23, 2014, 05:38:11 PM

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 7f Hcap    Prohibition    Back    33521021781    23-Jan-14
16:59         C    27    20.00         27    520.00

 ;bigadz;

:(

(http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Euler5853/Thanks/Ladyintheblue1Tatty0120081ThanksforSharing.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 23, 2014, 05:39:24 PM
have a spot in our cheltenham house, have it all the week, works out about £275 per person, smack in town centre, pm me if interested, three 30 year old racing fanatics, and drinkers!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on January 23, 2014, 05:43:37 PM
lol its actually just a bot I run that looks for value and by chance picked that after about 50 losers in a row

This one was based on the skill of laying what chompy really fancies

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 To Be Placed    Tijuca    Lay    33521031118    23-Jan-14
17:00         C    1.52    50.00         1.52    50.00

 ;bigadz;   ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2014, 05:48:21 PM
Anyone know why William Carson no longer rides for Stuart Williams?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 05:50:35 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.

ex John Butler and before that Howling?

Would imagine Mandy may not have had anything/much to do with this horse :)

Justr looking at that pipers piping and the other horse the trainer has got in the race - Prohibition was the subject to a massive market move last week where it went of fav from opening double figures. what do you think of its chances here? Could last week have been a ploy?


Good spot Omm. Its a game eh!!

Brilliant

Just got home from swimming with the kids, funny funny couple of days, at least I was on this one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 06:11:27 PM
Anyone know why William Carson no longer rides for Stuart Williams?

He is riding for "Ann Stokel" now that rakebackmypoker man has "moved" his horses there (ahem) as he has some kind of retainer for the owner

Also Stuart Williams has a fairly big new owner in Tom Morley who i speak to occasionally (still has horses with robert cowel moved a lot to Williams) just won a Kempton maiden



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on January 23, 2014, 06:12:08 PM
Isn't it true that Horses are run on Ground that isn't to their liking so that they trail in by 20 lengths to get favourable handicap marks? Therefore the Horses are trying but never stood a chance to start with?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 23, 2014, 06:19:40 PM
I've backed that Prohibition before, but unfortunately not today...

Nice shout omm, and wp doubleup's PC :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
Hugh Taylor tweeted the trainer of Prohibition has been fined because the horses vaccination records were incorrect.

 She has only had the horse this week.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 23, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
lol its actually just a bot I run that looks for value and by chance picked that after about 50 losers in a row

This one was based on the skill of laying what chompy really fancies

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 To Be Placed    Tijuca    Lay    33521031118    23-Jan-14
17:00         C    1.52    50.00         1.52    50.00

 ;bigadz;   ;bigadz;

Ha! This is not the Betfair forum! Respect my authoritah, I'm among the top 100 pro-gamblers in St Neots today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 08:31:52 PM
Hugh Taylor tweeted the trainer of Prohibition has been fined because the horses vaccination records were incorrect.

 She has only had the horse this week.

Something tells me she has never seen the horse before tonight

Well done on the bet Omm you are a genius second guessing the Butler crew!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
Hugh Taylor tweeted the trainer of Prohibition has been fined because the horses vaccination records were incorrect.

 She has only had the horse this week.

Something tells me she has never seen the horse before tonight

Well done on the bet Omm you are a genius second guessing the Butler crew!


Haha, sometimes it's better to be a lucky  than a genius, I'm probably more towards lucky than anything else.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on January 24, 2014, 12:03:37 AM
Curley is not taking money from bookmakers he's taking it from other punters.

All it will mean is it is even more difficult to get bets on (if that's possible) at early prices and accounts will be even more restricted.

Barney Curley is not a punters hero, he's a parasite.
The only parasites in this game are the on course bookies (tbh they are arbers) who give the liquidity to bf market. They all bet the live ones on there and lay em back. In 5 years you won't be moaning about not getting on, it will be industry prices. So it's bf or go to the meeting.

Fair play to BC that takes some planning. I mean honestly, imagine waking up Weds morning after planning that for a year?  He must of been loving that buzz. Camel, you gotta respect that surely as a punter?  He has basically said f the lot of you. Punters and firms.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 28, 2014, 11:12:15 AM
I find the Annie Power situation and the quandary of which race to go for at the festival quite interesting, but I can't honestly see Ruby deserting The Fly in the CH.

Will this have a bearing on which race the mare goes for?

I'm leaning towards the World Hurdle for her especially after her run before last over 2M5 at Cheltenham when she powered up the hill and Ruby said afterwards that he didn't think that stamina would be a problem.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
I find the Annie Power situation and the quandary of which race to go for at the festival quite interesting, but I can't honestly see Ruby deserting The Fly in the CH.

Will this have a bearing on which race the mare goes for?

I'm leaning towards the World Hurdle for her especially after her run before last over 2M5 at Cheltenham when she powered up the hill and Ruby said afterwards that he didn't think that stamina would be a problem.

I'd prefer he didn't, but that's my pocket talking :)

Doesn't the owner want the CH? If so, I guess it's on Mullins to persuade him otherwise...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 28, 2014, 10:27:20 PM
Examiner runs tomorrow at Kempton 8:20 @ 11/8, Chompey put this up in TFT last time it Won, seems like it done a good job then and is fancied tmrw, any value at 11/8? Will it go off nearer evens? Maybe Chompey/Adz/Horsey or suchlike could have a look and advise?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 28, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
Examiner is up 5lb and the same price to beat a couple of those he took care of last time. I wouldn't put you off but haven't really looked at the race tbh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 30, 2014, 09:04:19 AM
Like the look of Steeler in the G2 race in Meydan later. Ran a real promising race last time, sure to be fitter and surprised 7s is available.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 30, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
Good luck Adz

Have been waiting for CATFLAP to try Southwell for a long time

Problem is this is a good race for the grade, related to First Post,Westwood and Putin all of whom have won and ran well here and is by a generally good fibresand sire. Is usually very keen to post and blasts away in front and tires late. If there is one track this may work it will be here, would have happily left it at 14-s but 22-s is available which seems worth the risk.

Even if not today hopefully shows enough to comeback here again soon for a weaker race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 02, 2014, 01:53:25 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on February 03, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
If I'm backing a horse now @ 4.0 for £100 but I want to lay it nearer off or in running what is the best way of doing it?

I.e should I just put one price/couple of prices in betfair and leave it in running, if so what prices and how much?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 03, 2014, 02:24:16 PM
If I am looking to get my stake back and hopefully freeroll, I post at 2.06. and press the keep in running button. So often it doesn't quite get down to 2, for the exact freeroll.

Bar that its hard to say, as I dont know how much you want to try and make mate.

Others, I am sure will have other ideas.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on February 03, 2014, 02:30:47 PM
If I am looking to get my stake back and hopefully freeroll, I post at 2.06. and press the keep in running button. So often it doesn't quite get down to 2, for the exact freeroll.

Bar that its hard to say, as I dont know how much you want to try and make mate.

Others, I am sure will have other ideas.

Quite happy to get my stake back, have been looking at different options and considered what you have said so I may just go with it. Thanks Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on February 03, 2014, 08:16:45 PM

Was at Musselburgh races yesterday.  The second race was a five horse affair with a 2/5 fav, so I advised one of my friends that the best entertainment value was to back one of the other horses each way.  She obv picks the total rag and backs it at 25-1 which equally obv pishes in  ;D



This is the first and second doing battle over the last in the next race

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/824/89yo.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/mw89yoj)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 03, 2014, 09:09:37 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bfkk_u4CcAA72IH.jpg)


picture of a horse after running at Wolver today


kickback almost as bad as Southwell now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 05, 2014, 07:07:03 PM
Sunday's fabulous Leopardstown card with four group1 races must be touch and go after all of this weather. Let's hope it abates a little.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on February 05, 2014, 07:11:52 PM
Cheeky moment...

One of the top dogs at work mentioned he's going to Uttoxeter on Saturday. He's not a big racing fan but is likely to have a bet or two.

Anyone have any views on anything? Bear in mind I like my job...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2014, 07:12:15 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Does Mr Segal give you a call before writing his Weekender column, Chompy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2014, 11:21:11 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Does Mr Segal give you a call before writing his Weekender column, Chompy?

No sir, did he mention this future champion?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2014, 11:43:45 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Does Mr Segal give you a call before writing his Weekender column, Chompy?

No sir, did he mention this future champion?

Yeah, in his column from this week he was highly impressed by it as well.

WITH the emergence of the super stables like the Mullins, Nicholls and Henderson yards, it is not easy for a small trainer to get hold of a top-class horse anymore. In the past there were numerous tales of the farmer with a couple of horses finding a Cheltenham winner, but this is going to get increasingly more difficult and Hunt Ball is the only one to spring to mind from recent times.

However, every now and then a horse comes along who catches my imagination and Seeyouatmidnight for Sandy Thomson is just such a horse. Twice he’s run over hurdles this season and twice he’s won at massive prices, beating long odds-on shots easily.

Last Sunday he ran right away from Racing Pulse in a course-record time at Musselburgh and he finished full of running. He’s really athletic and, barring accidents, is going to make up into a top-class horse sooner rather than later.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Acidmouse on February 08, 2014, 11:28:54 AM
sat at home with kids all got colds, any tips for TV races today on ch4? long shots for my 50p ew! pls


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 13, 2014, 06:09:23 PM
Matt Chapman giving Phil Smith a going over on ATR :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on February 14, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
Someone asked me to price up the 2018/9 NH jockey's Championship

This was my rough guess..

3/1 Twiston-Davies
4/1 Maguire
6/1 Coleman
6/1 Scudamore
8/1 Jacob
8/1 Johnson
12/1 McCoy
12/1 Cooper
16/1 Mullins

Anyone want to have a crack at this/or spotted any obvious mistakes in my list?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 14, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
Someone asked me to price up the 2018/9 NH jockey's Championship

This was my rough guess..

3/1 Twiston-Davies
4/1 Maguire
6/1 Coleman
6/1 Scudamore
8/1 Jacob
8/1 Johnson
12/1 McCoy
12/1 Cooper
16/1 Mullins

Anyone want to have a crack at this/or spotted any obvious mistakes in my list?



Cant see Johnson or McCoy still riding then.
Nick Scholfield will surely be in the list.
Cant see both Cooper and Mullins over here, as I expect one will get the Mullins/Meade job when Ruby/Carberry retires and someone will want to stay for the Gigginstown Gig. If Townend gets overlooked, he could be over here too.
Touchy Fehily should be in there
Scudamore will surely be found out by then .
Wayneo will be in there, and I expect Ryan Mania to be the new J Maguire and rule the north
Up and comers Harry Skelton/Richie McLernon/Tom Garner/Josh Moore, may well be figuring too.

All IMHO of course!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on February 14, 2014, 08:03:17 PM
Someone asked me to price up the 2018/9 NH jockey's Championship

This was my rough guess..

3/1 Twiston-Davies
4/1 Maguire
6/1 Coleman
6/1 Scudamore
8/1 Jacob
8/1 Johnson
12/1 McCoy
12/1 Cooper
16/1 Mullins

Anyone want to have a crack at this/or spotted any obvious mistakes in my list?



Cant see Johnson or McCoy still riding then.
Nick Scholfield will surely be in the list.
Cant see both Cooper and Mullins over here, as I expect one will get the Mullins/Meade job when Ruby/Carberry retires and someone will want to stay for the Gigginstown Gig. If Townend gets overlooked, he could be over here too.
Touchy Fehily should be in there
Scudamore will surely be found out by then .
Wayneo will be in there, and I expect Ryan Mania to be the new J Maguire and rule the north
Up and comers Harry Skelton/Richie McLernon/Tom Garner/Josh Moore, may well be figuring too.

All IMHO of course!



Fehily is older than Johnson!

Much as I think he's gone, Johnson has had an amazing career and if AP didn't exist he would be lauded as the best jockey ever.

He's over 2 years younger than AP will surely keep going for one season after the champ retires so he can win one at least!

McCoy shouldn't still be riding then, but the geezer is incredible. I wouldn't want to lay him at 12/1!

Townend is a good shout, so is Josh Moore.

Thanks Adzy.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 14, 2014, 10:12:55 PM
Didn't realize Touchy was that old. Seems like he is only just making his breakthrough!

Cant see Mccoy even finishing the season that he looks like losing title tbh

You not rate Ryan Mania, Keith, seems to be riding better and better?

Hope we are both around to find out!! ;tk;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on February 15, 2014, 03:35:26 PM
Tom Scudamore, omg.  Time after time.  I think someone mentioned earlier you wouldn't want him on your horse I echo that. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2014, 06:01:13 PM
Be nice to see this Un De Sceaux off the bridle at some point :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 15, 2014, 08:14:58 PM
Anyone impressed by Captain Chris today?
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/cheltenham-gold-cup/winner
He's a stand out price in comparison to a lot of bookmakers, 40/1 with PaddyPower still.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2014, 08:19:38 PM
Anyone impressed by Captain Chris today?
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/cheltenham-gold-cup/winner
He's a stand out price in comparison to a lot of bookmakers, 40/1 with PaddyPower still.

Doesn't he end up running an extra couple furlongs at Cheltenham?

Think Hobbs seemed more interested in Punchestown from what I heard of his interview.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 16, 2014, 01:03:44 AM
Tom Scudamore, omg.  Time after time.  I think someone mentioned earlier you wouldn't want him on your horse I echo that. 


If you have stood in the unsaddling enclosure and listened to Toms lame excuses, non of which ever involve him saying he has ever made a mistake, as many times as I have, you would struggle to rate the guy or let him ride for you again.

Very lucky to have his dads surname.......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 16, 2014, 09:52:25 AM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Oi oi! Aintree next.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 18, 2014, 12:12:46 PM
Do we know who the "leading Irish trainer" is?

The one who's up before the beak this week for possession of dodgy "remedies".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 18, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
Phillip Fenton

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/17/philip-fenton-court-drugs-charges


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 18, 2014, 12:24:37 PM
Phillip Fenton

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/17/philip-fenton-court-drugs-charges

Cheers Horsey.

Does this mean that last Installment and Dunguib's recent form is questionable?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 18, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
Phillip Fenton

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/17/philip-fenton-court-drugs-charges

Cheers Horsey.

Does this mean that last Installment and Dunguib's recent form is questionable?

Hard to say really would certainly make me worried about having a position on either for Cheltenham tbh.

They both had excellent form before there long breaks tbf


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
It's 'a storm in a teacup' according to Gigginstown stud.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9172102/gigginstown-backing-for-fenton


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2014, 09:20:17 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Oi oi! Aintree next.

Just going through my e-mails and got this one from Totesport today -

Dear Mark,

We are writing to inform you that we will be changing the way we administer Special Offers to your totepool.com account. As you are aware, totepool.com provides extra value for its customers through regular promotional offers such as Moneyback Specials, Best Odds Guaranteed and Free Bets.

Following a recent review of your account, we regret to inform you that you will no longer be able to benefit from these and other gestures classified as 'special offers'. Accordingly, we must inform you that this change comes into effect immediately.


I had a whole £20 on, and they whacked me for a 15p rule 4 on a 10/1 NR too :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2014, 09:55:14 PM
It's 'a storm in a teacup' according to Gigginstown stud.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9172102/gigginstown-backing-for-fenton

Storm in a test tube would be more appropriate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2014, 10:19:53 PM
It's 'a storm in a teacup' according to Gigginstown stud.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9172102/gigginstown-backing-for-fenton

Storm in a test tube would be more appropriate.

:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 18, 2014, 11:55:31 PM
http://t.co/YaqJVLnBkg


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 22, 2014, 02:13:25 PM
Rivellino flatters to deceive again, deceived quite a few too as it traded @ 1.07.

I'm starting to think it might be a bit of a dodge. Too harsh?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 22, 2014, 02:27:45 PM
Rivellino flatters to deceive again, deceived quite a few too as it traded @ 1.07.

I'm starting to think it might be a bit of a dodge. Too harsh?


I think only Horsey is bothered about beach racing when its 3 weeks to Chelters mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 26, 2014, 07:24:29 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/2014-02-27-kempton/18:00/winner

Keen to get involved in this race for a few reasons.

Bennelong won by 9 lengths last time giving her rider her first winner and she is on again tommorow. Horse rarely follows up a good run with another and it really is quite hard to explain that win. No penalty e.t.c looks a good thing can win but at probable max 6/4 not for me. The second in Polydamos never wins keeps running the same race and has been outbattled at least twice recently, can see the argument in backing that each way if bigger than 4's is around tommorow but hard to see why it wins this when it hasnt won weaker.

A lot of the rags just cant win for obvious reasons. Tijuca and Byrd in Hand are solid enough but can let them win. I like a small win bet on Wyndham Wave at anything bigger than 8/1. Returning from a long break the booking of Kirby has convinced me the horse will be fit enough to run well here, a moody type but its c + d figures are generally good bar the last run (4,4,1,4 and 1).




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 27, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
10's into 7/2 ran no real race

a bit sick of value pie


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2014, 02:13:05 AM
Polydamos is the biggest woofer in the history of racing. Absolutely will not stick his head in front.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 28, 2014, 10:15:59 AM
Polydamos is the biggest woofer in the history of racing. Absolutely will not stick his head in front.

When are your mob slapping those northerners about, Chompy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2014, 11:42:03 AM
Polydamos is the biggest woofer in the history of racing. Absolutely will not stick his head in front.

When are your mob slapping those northerners about, Chompy?

Not until the end of March. If we were able to play our cup-tied boys, namely Ben Nugent (so that's what a defender looks like...), Conor Washington and Nicky Ajose, 4/7 would be a cracking price. As it is, I wouldn't put you off a cover on the Spireshites.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 28, 2014, 11:50:03 AM
Polydamos is the biggest woofer in the history of racing. Absolutely will not stick his head in front.

When are your mob slapping those northerners about, Chompy?

Not until the end of March. If we were able to play our cup-tied boys, namely Ben Nugent (so that's what a defender looks like...), Conor Washington and Nicky Ajose, 4/7 would be a cracking price. As it is, I wouldn't put you off a cover on the Spireshites.

I'll chuck a score on to cover my stake, but I have faith in Darragh's army!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on February 28, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
Didn't realise Big Ben was playing for your boys? Quality player for City last year. Surprised he's been loaned out to you and Brentford this year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2014, 03:19:03 PM
Absolutely no idea what he's doing down at this level. Should be top end of the Champo minimum. Still, we'll take him, as he'll probably be the difference between making/missing the play-offs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on March 01, 2014, 03:14:35 PM
OMFG choc thornton, how did you get this beat turn over sivola


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 01, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Two favourites decide to stay at the back and watch.

And watch.

And watch the leaders get a thirty length lead with four to jump.

Nice ride, lads!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 20, 2014, 07:09:09 PM
I think it was redarmi that posted on TFT about a few horses that were subject to a gamble yesterday. The last horse was declared a non runner, Brown Pete is now running tomorrow 8:05 at wolves, 365 currently have him at 11/4, not a recommend but was 5/4 when he was taken out yesterday. Be interesting to see how it runs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 22, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
Anyone else watch Morning Line today?

That Simon Clare is a bit smarmy for my liking, but I guess that goes with the territory.

I bet he won't be in a rush to get back after quite rightly getting some stick for moaning about the FOBT tax increase :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 25, 2014, 06:53:54 PM
Jackies Solitaire looks v big at 33-1 on 365 for those that can get on.

Won a couple of chases but although jumps well she is quite small. Back over hurdles with Honeyball horses back in form, she may not win but should get a run and I would be v surprised if she goes off much above 16s, especially with Aiden on board


NB, expect a bit of a gamble on Angles Hill in same race. 10s at mo, prob a fair bit shorter later


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
JS best price now 20s, and as low as 11s with Laddies and Hills.

Fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 26, 2014, 09:30:57 AM
Thanks Adz, great spot (you're not talking to yourself, honest) I also had a small bet on Urcalin at 22's this morning - 16's best now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on March 26, 2014, 10:59:48 AM
JS best price now 20s, and as low as 11s with Laddies and Hills.

Fingers crossed.

Yes thanks  :)...as low as 8/1 now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2014, 11:17:43 AM
Best price 12s. hmmm. Reckon Henry Rix is reading Blonde?!

Im not keen on celebrating just getting the price right, for it to be anything of substance, we need to realize some cold hard cash.

Fook the value pie. Show em a clean pair of hooves Jackie!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 26, 2014, 11:53:30 AM
Not sure how, but I did manage to miss this  :(

Some spot anyway, so good luck lads!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 26, 2014, 01:17:55 PM
Great spot Adz whatever happens


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 26, 2014, 01:43:33 PM
gd lk adz and all who followed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 26, 2014, 03:29:12 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!

Didn't see the race but unlucky. Good call on the price, sometimes though I'd take winners over value  :respect:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2014, 03:33:29 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!

Didn't see the race but unlucky. Good call on the price, sometimes though I'd take winners over value  :respect:

Every time mate. No one pays for holidays and cars with value!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 26, 2014, 03:39:17 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!

Didn't see the race but unlucky. Good call on the price, sometimes though I'd take winners over value  :respect:

Every time mate. No one pays for holidays and cars with value!

Yeah this is true, so why is "value" and " long term" all people talk about. When your having a bad run (referring to me) both of these words really get my goat although when things are good I seem to use these words myself! Anyway, back to finding value for the long term.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 26, 2014, 05:35:28 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!

Didn't see the race but unlucky. Good call on the price, sometimes though I'd take winners over value  :respect:

Every time mate. No one pays for holidays and cars with value!

Yeah this is true, so why is "value" and " long term" all people talk about. When your having a bad run (referring to me) both of these words really get my goat although when things are good I seem to use these words myself! Anyway, back to finding value for the long term.

It's effectively the same answer when someone comes up to you at a poker comp with the opening line "You won't believe what just happened to me"

"Sir, sometimes ace king does beat aces. It is rough when it happens but you have to accept it's good that you're getting it in ahead because you'll win in the long term by making better decisions than your opponents"

He then tells you it was a £50k pot and you sheepishly register the 5k guaranteed comp you turned up for.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Very keen on Maureen in the 2.40 @ Donny.

Backed her several times last year where she travelled well in top flight races, and didnt quite see out the trip at Championship speed.

The drop in trip looks the sensible solution. She has won on her seasonal debut last two years and is probably the only horse here open to any significant improvement.

As it is she is best in at the weights/ratings and despite her being with Hannon, I suspect the only reason she isn't half these odds is because we have Keiron O Neil(Hughes in Dubai) on board.

Would be very surprised if this wasnt won by one of the top 4, so at 6-1 think a chunky ew bet in order.

£75 ew @6-1.GL




Over in Dubai, I'm having a good old sentimental afternoon, where I hope a couple of old favs can do the business at mahoosive odds.

Gabriel has the booking of Hughesy in the Group 2 Godolphin Mile 1.10. Looks a great booking, as he should be tailor made for this hold up horse, following a year of Spencer up top, trying to do what Hughesy does best. Interestingly Fahey is also in Dubai to supervise when he has a fistfull of big chances at Donny. Cant resist some firty free to one here .

My fav flat horse Mount Athos is also in action in the penultimate 5.17 Sheema Classic. Bit of a globetrotter who hasn't quite gone as far as I hoped missing out several times in top races, but a promising pipe opener in the Dubai City of Gold 3 weeks ago. It was run in a slow time which wouldnt have suited this thorough stayer. With "Frank" jocked off in favour of Fallon I am feeling optimistic. 20s available and may as well chucking in an ew double.

No stakes recommended as I know have have my Dame Edna glasses on as I write this.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rinswun on March 29, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
This is a massive Noobs question but with the official Flat season beginning today, do only wins in the UK count towards the Flat Jockey championship? I assume Meydan results don't count.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 29, 2014, 12:38:01 PM

GB only - Ireland doesn't count either


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on March 29, 2014, 12:42:20 PM
Very keen on Maureen in the 2.40 @ Donny.

Backed her several times last year where she travelled well in top flight races, and didnt quite see out the trip at Championship speed.

The drop in trip looks the sensible solution. She has won on her seasonal debut last two years and is probably the only horse here open to any significant improvement.

As it is she is best in at the weights/ratings and despite her being with Hannon, I suspect the only reason she isn't half these odds is because we have Keiron O Neil(Hughes in Dubai) on board.

Would be very surprised if this wasnt won by one of the top 4, so at 6-1 think a chunky ew bet in order.

£75 ew @6-1.GL




Over in Dubai, I'm having a good old sentimental afternoon, where I hope a couple of old favs can do the business at mahoosive odds.

Gabriel has the booking of Hughesy in the Group 2 Godolphin Mile 1.10. Looks a great booking, as he should be tailor made for this hold up horse, following a year of Spencer up top, trying to do what Hughesy does best. Interestingly Fahey is also in Dubai to supervise when he has a fistfull of big chances at Donny. Cant resist some firty free to one here .

My fav flat horse Mount Athos is also in action in the penultimate 5.17 Sheema Classic. Bit of a globetrotter who hasn't quite gone as far as I hoped missing out several times in top races, but a promising pipe opener in the Dubai City of Gold 3 weeks ago. It was run in a slow time which wouldnt have suited this thorough stayer. With "Frank" jocked off in favour of Fallon I am feeling optimistic. 20s available and may as well chucking in an ew double.

No stakes recommended as I know have have my Dame Edna glasses on as I write this.

The Bald One was giving enhanced odds about Jack Dexter in his shops this morning, so that helps


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rinswun on March 29, 2014, 12:47:57 PM

GB only - Ireland doesn't count either

top man, thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
Ground looks very odd at Donny. Nothing coming from behind.

Maureen ran ok, but close enough based on the above, and distance between her and Jack D to give her another go.

Apols to those who followed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2014, 03:40:29 PM
Same again. Front rankers

Both front two in market Gabriels K and Off Art are front runners. May even do a little fc.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 29, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
Same again. Front rankers

Both front two in market Gabriels K and Off Art are front runners. May even do a little fc.

I'm throwing a dart at Balty Boys and another at Sweet Lightning


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 29, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
Same again. Front rankers

Both front two in market Gabriels K and Off Art are front runners. May even do a little fc.

I'm throwing a dart at Balty Boys and another at Sweet Lightning

Almost got excited then!

Bleugh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2014, 04:15:59 PM
Front runner again. In front rank throughtout. Finishers bombing today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 29, 2014, 04:18:19 PM
Would have had Tullius nailed on from 2 out, but just seemed to stay on at the one pace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 30, 2014, 09:37:42 AM

In the Dubai World Cup Meeting, I noticed that the Racecard Numbers & Draw numbers were the same.

Is this standard in those parts?

Presumably, they don't allocate race card numbers until the draw is done?

Quite like to see that over here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 30, 2014, 09:39:36 AM


I thought the Dubai World Cup TV coverage (a distributed feed, which SS & others took) was spectacularly good, especially the graphics & timing. And that Meydan RaceCourse, sheesh, how good is that?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 30, 2014, 09:44:49 AM

In the Dubai World Cup Meeting, I noticed that the Racecard Numbers & Draw numbers were the same.

Is this standard in those parts?

Presumably, they don't allocate race card numbers until the draw is done?

Quite like to see that over here.

They do that in the USA as well - draw obv done first.  In the USA handicaps are relatively rare and they don't seem to pay much attention to weight carried  so maybe that's why they don't number the horses in weight order.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 31, 2014, 03:05:10 PM
Un de Sceaux racing in France at the weekend

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZP2Ehjpihg


Isn't racing strange over there, very different hurdles, and it's just completely silent until the end.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Honeybadger on April 01, 2014, 03:36:18 PM
Aintree starts on Thursday and www.stakesandladders.com have Classic and Fantasy Pools for the whole Festival, Daily Pools and Big Race pools each day and a Grand National pool. We've also put up some hefty guarantees, so there is a very good chance of some tasty overlays.

If you haven't entered any racing pools yet then please give them a go over Aintree. It's a different way of punting on racing and it gives a great sweat, especially towards the last couple of races.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2014, 07:45:27 AM
Up far too early so thought I would chuck the horses up I will be following today, for those that are interested. Won't be doing this 4/5 horses a race stuff. It  may prove the safe way but its a bloody long way back if you miss winning or placing in a few races, but you do need a couple or so arrows at the big meets.

2.00  Baltimore Rock 8s generally starting to realise potential now tactics changed)(just/ Irish Cavalier ew 25 Sid j(too big a price to ignore)

2.30. Many Clouds 13/2(do I need to explain?) small save Just a Par 20s( ran better at Chelts than form suggests)

3.05 Module 5s(solid form choice)/Pepite Rose 14s PP/Sid ew(improver that acts best right handed, and not too badly in at weights)

3.40 Love Double Ross, and may chuck a few beans at it, but long season(some thrive on it, but puts me off a tad). Big Fella a standing dish and had some 33s a couple of weeks ago, but 14s still a decent ew price. Ma Filleule getting the hang of jumping and nice saver at 14s.

4.15. I worry about the drying ground for the fav, but hope form forum friends he does well, but short at sub 4s for me. I like Beat That 7-1 who smashed Champagne West, a good yardstick. Probably needs to be fresh and sure will be here. Racing Pulse on has a couple of lengths to find with the fav on better ground, seems like a sensible ew alternative 11-1

4.50 If you knew how much they think of Cheltanian, you would go massive win only single bet. He wont owe me a thing if he loses every day til Xmas, so I have to go in again. Was 16s but 12s now. Saving on Caid du Berlais, who looks to have a big race in him 8s. Its all about the Chelts tho here.

5.25 The Govaness, won a strong heat at Chelts and has some decent stuff in behind, been put away for this and working well. Oleohenah is rated not far behind the best here and ran better on better ground, looks too big at 28s with Sid for an ew save. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2014, 09:07:54 AM
Good luck today mate!

Watching TML, and wondering - Does this Donn McClean know that Irish horses aren't the only ones running today?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 04, 2014, 09:21:46 AM
Lots to follow there Adz, if I could be so cheeky what would be you Nap and Nb. Have to invest the pennies wisely today. Good luck with all of them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2014, 01:53:33 PM
Sorry, been golfing.

Nap, Many Clouds, but I fear it has become a heart rather than head horse.

NB I like that Beat That has been saved for this.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2014, 05:32:47 PM
Judging by BE thread, I'm glad I got my selections before Mr C.

No collusion here!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 04, 2014, 05:49:34 PM
thanks Adz, lumped into Beat That. Nice little earner.

Let's hope Burton Port hacks up. Although it doesn't matter because we have value don't we!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 04, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
Some good stuff there Adz. Looks like a good day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2014, 11:02:26 PM
Cheers guys.

Not overly pleased with the ride Aspell gave Many Clouds. The horse jumps like a stag yet the jockey seemed determined to make him take an extra stride at every fence, breaking up his momentum.

Hopeful of a good day tomorrow but will leave posting til a bit later. They are all picked but best make sure ground doesn't change dramatically.. All free again tomorrow! ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 10:52:58 AM
Adz what do u think of 9/2 on Victor Hewgo? On the Holywell form it should do ok shouldn't it? Is 9/2 still too skinny?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 10:55:15 AM
Dell Arca in the first today, anyone?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 10:57:32 AM
Adz what do u think of 9/2 on Victor Hewgo? On the Holywell form it should do ok shouldn't it? Is 9/2 still too skinny?

Solid bet for me today. Form is rock solid and all form is on similar tracks. Short but I'm on mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2014, 12:18:17 PM
Got some multiples to pay for Vegas today



13:30 - Wilde Blue Yonder
14:05 - Next Sensation
15:25 - Victor Hewgo


13:50 - Bertie Blue Boy
14:05 - Next Sensation
14:25 - Munfallet
15:25 - Victor Hewgo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 12:24:57 PM
I have the Vegas trip £1 combi forecast and tricast bets, too :D

Balthazar King/Prince de Beauchen/The Package

Wouldn't we all love that moment when the three of them jump the last ten lengths clear?! :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
1.30. Wilde Blue Yonder retrieval mission as staying on nicely at end of Supreme and a real trends horse 5-1 looks ok ew. When Kilcooley won first time at MRaspberry I was very impressed and looks like it will take to a longer trip. Worth an ew save @25s

2.05 Convinced Trifolium is better than he showed at Chelts and he will be the main bet and the 9/2 available has prompted an opportunity to back him ew. Balder Succes and Wayneo seem a logical saver.

2.50 Whisper has looked better and better this year and surprised me when he gave a TFT fav Saphir du Rhoi a race at FL in the Welsh Champ. I can see the step up bringing further improvement in what looks a weak race behind At Fishers C, who is too short to save on. Win single 11-2. Todays Nap.

3.25 Not very exciting but Victor Hewgo looks a solid fav. Right down the bottom we may have Peter Bowens next Aintree winner and Kians Delight is the saver. He looks like he has been aimed at this all year.

4.15 Hopefully most of you got the 50-1 on Burton. We are looking good there, and a surprisingly bullish Jonjo on TV yesterday has only heightened expectation. Seems very much a booooooooom or bust attempt. Lets hope come 4.30 its the former. I have spotted one today that I hadn't even heard of before the day, and it had totally passed me by. Having watched all its last few races it looks to have been given the perfect AIntree prep and form with Trio and Colbert Station makes me think we may hear more of him as the day goes on.  Last Time Dalbain @ 66s

5.10. Normally would have gone to the pub if things have gone well, but I have been waiting for Court Minstrel to run over 2m in a big field on a tight course on quickish ground. I hope it doesn't rain too much 14s best available now, but this fella is top class given the right conditions. Big EW bet. Kashmir Peak looks to have been aimed at this and is the saver at 25-1.

5.45 I get some very nice info from gary Moores yard and he is very keen on Puisque Tu Pars. good enough for me, but tough and I will be in the pub by now regardless. GL all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
Another amazingly inept Choc performance there. For a "top flight" jock too easily squeezed out at a vital time, and then the standard choc last hurdle howler as he once again forces a mistake at a cruicial time just as he makes an effort. Makes me very sad for Alan King owners.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 01:59:29 PM
Another amazingly inept Choc performance there. For a "top flight" jock too easily squeezed out at a vital time, and then the standard choc last hurdle howler as he once again forces a mistake at a cruicial time just as he makes an effort. Makes me very sad for Alan King owners.

Wouldn't be a big festival without one of those moments :)

I imagine the bookies were paying out with one to jump on AP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
Another amazingly inept Choc performance there. For a "top flight" jock too easily squeezed out at a vital time, and then the standard choc last hurdle howler as he once again forces a mistake at a cruicial time just as he makes an effort. Makes me very sad for Alan King owners.

Wouldn't be a big festival without one of those moments :)

I imagine the bookies were paying out with one to jump on AP

Yup a certain inevitability when you remember AP is on a closer!! Onwards.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
Another amazingly inept Choc performance there. For a "top flight" jock too easily squeezed out at a vital time, and then the standard choc last hurdle howler as he once again forces a mistake at a cruicial time just as he makes an effort. Makes me very sad for Alan King owners.

Wouldn't be a weekend without one of those moments :)

I imagine the bookies were paying out with one to jump on AP


;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
Balder scoots up under the Mighty Wayneo. What a difference eh.

Incred


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 02:27:24 PM
Lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 02:35:35 PM
Lol

I may well be more than borderline boring about it, but am I even vaguely wrong?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
Lol

I may well be more than borderline boring about it, but am I even vaguely wrong?

Not to these ice cream eyes. I've relished in cheering home horses coming from behind against Choc on several occasions.

But then I'm not a Geraghty fan, so what do I know?

(Not saying he's worse than Choc, Obv...)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 03:14:40 PM
Boooooooooooooom!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 03:20:17 PM
Well done Adz, there all free here you know!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on April 05, 2014, 03:24:39 PM
I had intentions of following you and then looked on Tft and went with Zarakander instead:(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
I have the Vegas trip £1 combi forecast and tricast bets, too :D

Balthazar King/Prince de Beauchen/The Package

Wouldn't we all love that moment when the three of them jump the last ten lengths clear?! :)

Backed Pineau de Re. Feeling slightly sick now!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 04:55:36 PM
The amount of time I spent studying it.Meh. Fecking lottery..lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 05:35:51 PM
1.30. Wilde Blue Yonder retrieval mission as staying on nicely at end of Supreme and a real trends horse 5-1 looks ok ew. When Kilcooley won first time at MRaspberry I was very impressed and looks like it will take to a longer trip. Worth an ew save @25s

2.05 Convinced Trifolium is better than he showed at Chelts and he will be the main bet and the 9/2 available has prompted an opportunity to back him ew. Balder Succes and Wayneo seem a logical saver.

2.50 Whisper has looked better and better this year and surprised me when he gave a TFT fav Saphir du Rhoi a race at FL in the Welsh Champ. I can see the step up bringing further improvement in what looks a weak race behind At Fishers C, who is too short to save on. Win single 11-2. Todays Nap.

3.25 Not very exciting but Victor Hewgo looks a solid fav. Right down the bottom we may have Peter Bowens next Aintree winner and Kians Delight is the saver. He looks like he has been aimed at this all year.

4.15 Hopefully most of you got the 50-1 on Burton. We are looking good there, and a surprisingly bullish Jonjo on TV yesterday has only heightened expectation. Seems very much a booooooooom or bust attempt. Lets hope come 4.30 its the former. I have spotted one today that I hadn't even heard of before the day, and it had totally passed me by. Having watched all its last few races it looks to have been given the perfect AIntree prep and form with Trio and Colbert Station makes me think we may hear more of him as the day goes on.  Last Time Dalbain @ 66s

5.10. Normally would have gone to the pub if things have gone well, but I have been waiting for Court Minstrel to run over 2m in a big field on a tight course on quickish ground. I hope it doesn't rain too much 14s best available now, but this fella is top class given the right conditions. Big EW bet. Kashmir Peak looks to have been aimed at this and is the saver at 25-1.

5.45 I get some very nice info from gary Moores yard and he is very keen on Puisque Tu Pars. good enough for me, but tough and I will be in the pub by now regardless. GL all


Back in the saddle!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 05:39:29 PM
1.30. Wilde Blue Yonder retrieval mission as staying on nicely at end of Supreme and a real trends horse 5-1 looks ok ew. When Kilcooley won first time at MRaspberry I was very impressed and looks like it will take to a longer trip. Worth an ew save @25s

2.05 Convinced Trifolium is better than he showed at Chelts and he will be the main bet and the 9/2 available has prompted an opportunity to back him ew. Balder Succes and Wayneo seem a logical saver.

2.50 Whisper has looked better and better this year and surprised me when he gave a TFT fav Saphir du Rhoi a race at FL in the Welsh Champ. I can see the step up bringing further improvement in what looks a weak race behind At Fishers C, who is too short to save on. Win single 11-2. Todays Nap.

3.25 Not very exciting but Victor Hewgo looks a solid fav. Right down the bottom we may have Peter Bowens next Aintree winner and Kians Delight is the saver. He looks like he has been aimed at this all year.

4.15 Hopefully most of you got the 50-1 on Burton. We are looking good there, and a surprisingly bullish Jonjo on TV yesterday has only heightened expectation. Seems very much a booooooooom or bust attempt. Lets hope come 4.30 its the former. I have spotted one today that I hadn't even heard of before the day, and it had totally passed me by. Having watched all its last few races it looks to have been given the perfect AIntree prep and form with Trio and Colbert Station makes me think we may hear more of him as the day goes on.  Last Time Dalbain @ 66s

5.10. Normally would have gone to the pub if things have gone well, but I have been waiting for Court Minstrel to run over 2m in a big field on a tight course on quickish ground. I hope it doesn't rain too much 14s best available now, but this fella is top class given the right conditions. Big EW bet. Kashmir Peak looks to have been aimed at this and is the saver at 25-1.

5.45 I get some very nice info from gary Moores yard and he is very keen on Puisque Tu Pars. good enough for me, but tough and I will be in the pub by now regardless. GL all


Back in the saddle!

How quick lye things change hey Adz! Left that and went for your last, let's hope u clean up towards the end. Well done today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 06:13:38 PM
Meh. Got totally unbalanced at top turn and lost place. Not an ideal place to be on the rail for a big horse, but ran on very nicely. No payday today, but keep it in your tracker.

A pleasing day with the two biggest recommends helping to make a v decent chunk for the one or two of those that followed the lot.

Til next year. Adieu.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 05, 2014, 07:10:04 PM
another good day Adz, well done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
Meh. Got totally unbalanced at top turn and lost place. Not an ideal place to be on the rail for a big horse, but ran on very nicely. No payday today, but keep it in your tracker.

A pleasing day with the two biggest recommends helping to make a v decent chunk for the one or two of those that followed the lot.

Til next year. Adieu.

Hey hey let's not wait that long, you taking the year off!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 06, 2014, 11:42:59 AM

The Stewards Room must have been pretty crowded.......


http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/apr/05/jockeys-revolt-false-start-grand-national


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 13, 2014, 10:30:31 AM
Having been mixing it between 6f and a mile in the hottest of races, his last race was in the Breeders Cup Mile, and wasn't beaten that far, Cristoforo Columbo finally runs over 7f.

At 4s it looks worth a decent ew bet. This looks like his distance to me.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 13, 2014, 10:39:38 AM
Nothing like an early morning treasure hunt ;)

Found the treasure - 15:55 @ Curragh

Good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 14, 2014, 09:33:12 AM
15.40 Pontefract anyone any thoughts on Spruzzo, described as thorough stayer and previous winner of this race DG, in which many have stamina doubts. Of course recent form is poor, thus 20-1 is offered.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 16, 2014, 10:17:36 AM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/beverley/15:05/winner

the 11/2 thats still just there Singeur is well worth backing each way imo

Pretty simple case really

Course and Distance record 122

2nd start after a break over 5 furlongs 1111

Loves the track the ground drying out to more good to firm suits him more than it does most of the others. Cant beat the fav on the last run but first run after a break is always a pipe opener and soft ground is a complete no no.

Added bonus is the excellent Jason Hart has started the season really well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on April 16, 2014, 01:26:49 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/beverley/15:05/winner

the 11/2 thats still just there Singeur is well worth backing each way imo

Pretty simple case really

Course and Distance record 122

2nd start after a break over 5 furlongs 1111

Loves the track the ground drying out to more good to firm suits him more than it does most of the others. Cant beat the fav on the last run but first run after a break is always a pipe opener and soft ground is a complete no no.

Added bonus is the excellent Jason Hart has started the season really well.
Had a weekend break on Whitby just stopped off at Beverly races so will have a few bob on this.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 16, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/beverley/15:05/winner

the 11/2 thats still just there Singeur is well worth backing each way imo

Pretty simple case really

Course and Distance record 122

2nd start after a break over 5 furlongs 1111

Loves the track the ground drying out to more good to firm suits him more than it does most of the others. Cant beat the fav on the last run but first run after a break is always a pipe opener and soft ground is a complete no no.

Added bonus is the excellent Jason Hart has started the season really well.

Thanks John, a small EW wager has been had.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 16, 2014, 01:41:54 PM
Obviously the fancied horse, been hammered in from a first show of 12/1 yesterday.

Got my tuppence on it's back now as well, so good luck everyone!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 16, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
hammered even more before the start

beaten about a nose for 3rd but no excuses


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on April 17, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
hammered even more before the start

beaten about a nose for 3rd but no excuses

Had a wee flutter at 11/2 ew - was sure it squeezed into 3rd.

What a lovely little course Beverley is - would go there again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on April 21, 2014, 10:09:32 AM
Off to Market Rasen today with the kids.....anyone got any tips?

(other than leave the kids at home!)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on April 22, 2014, 02:10:45 PM
Love the Neesom.

In the space of 10secs he criticised a Racing Post betting forecast and roffled at a Kenny Johnson horse going off evens.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 25, 2014, 03:42:41 PM
That's just blown the Hcap mark Chompy.

Won 13k and will prob get put up 15  pounds.?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on April 25, 2014, 04:19:44 PM
Yuh, impressive that one. Sometimes wonder about Fahey. Just read his Sporting Life column, so unbelievably zzzzzzzz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 26, 2014, 02:00:38 PM
Un De Sceaux is a monster!

Just raced Gemix (and others) again over 2m 4f, with Ruby taking the reins this time, and nothing got close.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 27, 2014, 10:28:38 PM
Treve's race from today

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_D0otTJX7Q


Not too sure about the camerawork...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 29, 2014, 08:41:08 AM
Punchestown 16:20

Dirty each way hoping eight stay in

Western Boy @ 8-1
Wicklow Brave @ 16-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 12:35:52 PM
Quite keen to take on Faugheen too. Will be ew on Valsuer Lido who was impressive in a race known to produce the winner fairly often. He also wasn't far behind your two in the Supreme, Omm and given a much easier race, and looks an improver.


I like Djakadam in the 3miler getting plenty of allowances and Ruby up top. Was till going v nicely in the Jewson when falling 4 out.

FWIW, also hope to see Six Wives run well in the 4.50 at Notts after her decent comeback run. Should be spot on now.GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 29, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Quite keen to take on Faugheen too. Will be ew on Valsuer Lido who was impressive in a race known to produce the winner fairly often. He also wasn't far behind your two in the Supreme, Omm and given a much easier race, and looks an improver.


I like Djakadam in the 3miler getting plenty of allowances and Ruby up top. Was till going v nicely in the Jewson when falling 4 out.

FWIW, also hope to see Six Wives run well in the 4.50 at Notts after her decent comeback run. Should be spot on now.GL

Djakadam now a non runner. Six Wives I'm on, Goodluck and thanks. I don't really think any of the ew bets can be bad in Faugheen's race, could make an arguement for all of them apart from the outsider, should be a good race. I like Baily Green later too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 29, 2014, 04:48:23 PM
:o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 04:50:09 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 29, 2014, 05:12:12 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.

Ridiculously strong showing, and it looks like it's time for The Liquidator to be put through one...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 05:17:05 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.

Ridiculously strong showing, and it looks like it's time for The Liquidator to be put through one...


bit harsh mate. Not turned out to be what we hoped but he was 4th, in a strong field. Not sure he will ever carry any of my serious dough again, but sure he will pay his way at a certain level.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 05:37:33 PM
Six Wives traded as low as 1.23, and my nitty 1.5 trade got me out, but she was run out of it in last furlong sadly for the full wedge.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 29, 2014, 05:57:30 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.

Ridiculously strong showing, and it looks like it's time for The Liquidator to be put through one...


bit harsh mate. Not turned out to be what we hoped but he was 4th, in a strong field. Not sure he will ever carry any of my serious dough again, but sure he will pay his way at a certain level.


Saw it was in a heap bar the 12 lengths to Faugheen, and he didn't seem to jump as well as he normally does.

Te opportunity for a play on his name was there, so seemed a shame not to use it ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 29, 2014, 06:00:58 PM
cheered home Sizing there without a penny on

great old warrior lovely beast


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 29, 2014, 06:42:50 PM
cheered home Sizing there without a penny on

great old warrior lovely beast

Me too, great gesture to retire him after that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 29, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
Quevega racing on Thursday 4/5.
Thoughts


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 29, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
Quite keen to take on Faugheen too. Will be ew on Valsuer Lido who was impressive in a race known to produce the winner fairly often. He also wasn't far behind your two in the Supreme, Omm and given a much easier race, and looks an improver.


I like Djakadam in the 3miler getting plenty of allowances and Ruby up top. Was till going v nicely in the Jewson when falling 4 out.

FWIW, also hope to see Six Wives run well in the 4.50 at Notts after her decent comeback run. Should be spot on now.GL

You knew Adz, thought Western Boy had more of a chance turning for home but Valsuer Lido fought well. Good call. Fantastic animal Faugheen. Any views on tmrw?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 07:48:02 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.

Ridiculously strong showing, and it looks like it's time for The Liquidator to be put through one...


bit harsh mate. Not turned out to be what we hoped but he was 4th, in a strong field. Not sure he will ever carry any of my serious dough again, but sure he will pay his way at a certain level.


Saw it was in a heap bar the 12 lengths to Faugheen, and he didn't seem to jump as well as he normally does.

Te opportunity for a play on his name was there, so seemed a shame not to use it ;)


We have called things far worse between us mate!

Great to see Sizing win, he was the rock solid one and a big price too.

Liking the cards tomorrow, so will get something up later hopefully.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 29, 2014, 08:09:42 PM
Yeah, was nice to see Ballynagour run a decent race too.

I'm on wind down mode now, and just railing for the most part over the next few weeks.

Will no doubt get involved in anything you put up though!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 09:46:25 PM
Cheltanian has to be backed.in the 4.20 at Punches at 3s
He was purchased by Roger B after a run at Punches, when second for Liz Doyle a few years back. He obv went onto win the Champion Bumper, and has had some issues since that kept him off for a year or so, but slowly he has come back to the sort of form that he promised.

Last time out he cruised into the lead over 2.4m at Aintree, but according to Johnson, was still a little green and got there too soon in a big field. Hobbs has a good record at Punches and I'm told he has him buzzing.

As an aside, Liz Doyle has the second fav, who she once offered to Roger, but stated he wasn't the same horse as Cheltanian. A lot has happened since then to both horses, but its one of those things that sticks with you.

Aside of all this he is clear top rated by people that know far more than me! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 30, 2014, 11:34:34 AM
The 4.55 at Punch has two horses at the top of the market that I had good touches on last time, Beat Time and Dom Poli. Third fav in this was the impressive Bartlett winner Very Wood. At first glance, and it probably will be, it looks a race between the three of them. Beat Time was awesome last time and has had an easy time of it so far this year and I may well back him if he goes 2-1.

However, I fancy a tiny ew dabble on Thunder and Roses who has looked like better ground will suit him more. He has proven form over 3m and at 50s in places, I have to have a little ew, in a race that seems to produce big price winners consistently.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 30, 2014, 12:01:52 PM
First Lieutenant looks eminently backable e/w in the gold cup especially with Geraghty on fire at the moment  - even better with PP money back offer and 6-1 best price currently


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 30, 2014, 12:14:50 PM
The 4.55 at Punch has two horses at the top of the market that I had good touches on last time, Beat Time and Dom Poli. Third fav in this was the impressive Bartlett winner Very Wood. At first glance, and it probably will be, it looks a race between the three of them. Beat Time was awesome last time and has had an easy time of it so far this year and I may well back him if he goes 2-1.

However, I fancy a tiny ew dabble on Thunder and Roses who has looked like better ground will suit him more. He has proven form over 3m and at 50s in places, I have to have a little ew, in a race that seems to produce big price winners consistently.

I chucked Very Wood in a trixie last night with Cheltenian and Bob, so I better have a couple quid as cover on T&R.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 30, 2014, 05:04:02 PM
Apparently Chelt lost a shoe when he got caught up jumping around the faller Wounded Warrior, which wouldn't have helped, but to my eyes, didnt affect the result, almost looked to me like he didn't stay....ho hum.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 30, 2014, 05:21:51 PM
beautiful,  well done Adz,  it's that man Geraghty again


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 01, 2014, 11:15:20 AM
Surely At Fishers Cross has to be an EW bet to nothing against Quevaga?

She impresses me less each time she runs, and with a decent field assembled her, not sure if laying her or backing AFC ew is the better option.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 01, 2014, 01:47:58 PM
I prefer the e/w shot to nothing route, have done Fingal Bay myself. Also took the 11/4 about Balder Succes, though without super strong feelings about the race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 01, 2014, 07:03:43 PM
Barry G, without doubt a monster jockey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 01, 2014, 09:20:03 PM
Barry G, without doubt a monster jockey.

Only just watched the race, but some boy isn't he...

You think Wayneo getting into a battle with CF did for him?

One of my AP tickets for the 1000 went up in smoke today too :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 02, 2014, 02:52:43 PM
A change of profile picture for today's only selection at Punchestown.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2014, 03:28:25 PM
A change of profile picture for today's only selection at Punchestown.

Is that Ray Parlour?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2014, 04:55:25 PM
Did well to battle on for 3rd there, good shout mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 04, 2014, 03:23:56 PM
Worth keeping an eye on Forcible in the 4.25

Trained by David Brown for the meeting sponsors, he/they obviously target the race each year as he had the winner in 2012 and a close up 4th last year. Qatar Racing also have Lightening Stride and are also the employers of David Redvers who had the winner last year, and I believe is head of the Clipper Logistics syndicate who have Shackled N Drawn.

Forcible looks quite big at 16s on Betty based on the past efforts of Qatar to win this( it maybe their own Optimal Strategy!)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 04, 2014, 03:55:14 PM
16:25 - The get me out stakes ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 04, 2014, 04:45:42 PM
WIDE


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 05, 2014, 12:13:22 PM
Today's Bets, all e/w except Grasped:

2.40 Beverley   Proclamationofwar   16/1   seemed a big price given probs didnt want soft last time
3.15 Beverley   Grasped   7/4                     obvious form claims
3.25 Kempton   Western King   11/1            likes the ground and appears to go well fresh
4.00 Kempton   Wintered Well   12/1            have to forgive a poor run in a much better race and hope trip ok (this one had most reservations about)
4.35 Kempton   Pepite Rose   13/2            Can it defy top weight ?, thought it was worth a chance at the price

I thought I'ld put my own picks up in this thread, I've only just started trying to take this more seriously and would be interested if anyone has any feedback.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2014, 12:51:00 PM
Pepite Rose is one of my Favs and so pleased to see her run such a massive race against SDG last time.

Obviously in good form still or they wouldn't run her, but my concern is she just doesn't seem as consistent going right handed.

No doubt I will still partake.

Only one horse I been waiting to reappear today. Ixselles Diamond of Fahey 3.40 Wawick. Hoping it will improve for step up. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 05, 2014, 01:58:45 PM
Had a small word for Free Entry in the first at Bevers today.

It's first time on the track, so who knows how it will react, but definitely worth a couple of quid at 8 or 10/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2014, 02:16:54 PM
Had a small word for Free Entry in the first at Bevers today.

It's first time on the track, so who knows how it will react, but definitely worth a couple of quid at 8 or 10/1.

8/1 best now, a small investment has been made, thanks Keith.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 05, 2014, 02:25:37 PM
:( sorry guys - one more stride and we we'd have won.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2014, 02:25:46 PM
Wowzer.

Mulrenan just needed a slap a touch earlier.

Great info Camel. Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
Had a small word for Free Entry in the first at Bevers today.

It's first time on the track, so who knows how it will react, but definitely worth a couple of quid at 8 or 10/1.

8/1 best now, a small investment has been made, thanks Keith.


Oooh, very close!

We just needed another stride, but still a bit of profit, thanks Keith.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2014, 02:27:33 PM
Thanks for the heads up Keith, very unlucky there mate :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 05, 2014, 02:27:47 PM
Wowzer.

Mulrenan just needed a slap a touch earlier.

Great info Camel. Cheers

Think Mulrennan thought he was beat a furlong out and was planning minimal effort.

But it took off for a slap.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Acidmouse on May 05, 2014, 02:29:15 PM
listening to this on radio was fun, sounded close! good call small profit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 05, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
Today's Bets, all e/w except Grasped:

2.40 Beverley   Proclamationofwar   16/1   seemed a big price given probs didnt want soft last time
3.15 Beverley   Grasped   7/4                     obvious form claims
3.25 Kempton   Western King   11/1            likes the ground and appears to go well fresh
4.00 Kempton   Wintered Well   12/1            have to forgive a poor run in a much better race and hope trip ok (this one had most reservations about)
4.35 Kempton   Pepite Rose   13/2            Can it defy top weight ?, thought it was worth a chance at the price

I thought I'ld put my own picks up in this thread, I've only just started trying to take this more seriously and would be interested if anyone has any feedback.
Not the best start, 4/4 unplaced and a non-runnner. Oh well, things can only get better from here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 05, 2014, 06:53:15 PM
Pepite Rose is one of my Favs and so pleased to see her run such a massive race against SDG last time.

Obviously in good form still or they wouldn't run her, but my concern is she just doesn't seem as consistent going right handed.

No doubt I will still partake.

Only one horse I been waiting to reappear today. Ixselles Diamond of Fahey 3.40 Wawick. Hoping it will improve for step up. GL

boom boom, back from holiday at 14:00 and walked into a chicken dinner!! thanks Adam, just got back the money i spent on 4 days away with the kiddles. Top tippage as usual, i know its not true what they say about you :-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2014, 07:14:37 PM
Cheers mate. 8s into 9/2, gamble landed.

Yes I feel like a combo of Osama and Saddam on Blonde atm.

Will PM you them in future Omm. Even my thick skin getting bored of posting in a vacuum of interest. ;popcorn;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 05, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
Cheers mate. 8s into 9/2, gamble landed.

Yes I feel like a combo of Osama and Saddam on Blonde atm.

Will PM you them in future Omm. Even my thick skin getting bored of posting in a vacuum of interest. ;popcorn;

I don't think any worse of you than I did when I first learned you're a gooner.

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on May 05, 2014, 07:30:19 PM
Cheers mate. 8s into 9/2, gamble landed.

Yes I feel like a combo of Osama and Saddam on Blonde atm.

Will PM you them in future Omm. Even my thick skin getting bored of posting in a vacuum of interest. ;popcorn;

Keep posting them Adz, I wasn't on that one but appreciate it when you post them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 05, 2014, 07:37:21 PM
yeah keep posting adz, haters can ignore punters can join in ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 05, 2014, 07:59:44 PM
Cheers mate. 8s into 9/2, gamble landed.

Yes I feel like a combo of Osama and Saddam on Blonde atm.

Will PM you them in future Omm. Even my thick skin getting bored of posting in a vacuum of interest. ;popcorn;

further to my PM Adam, Difference of opinions are what keeps forum's going, certainly dont stop posting as you know a lot of blondes love hearing your take on things, especially the nags, and there is certainly nothing wrong with going against popular opinion, suppose your opinion's are not always as popular as others but certainly just as valid. Up the O's!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 05, 2014, 08:25:58 PM
yeah keep posting adz, haters can ignore punters can join in ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2014, 09:51:02 PM
LOL

I wasn't saying I was leaving or owt!!

No, I just got the impression if I posted, only Omm and Marky bothered getting involved. Not gonna spend my time posting for lurkers to take advantage, while I think I'm talking to myself.

Call me a tosser when they lose if you like, but it does feel like I'm talking to myself in there most of the time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 05, 2014, 10:13:03 PM
I like your winners too.

When your picks lose though, do some maths work on the horses. :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 05, 2014, 10:42:46 PM
I'm in for tosser / hero posts.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 05, 2014, 10:44:48 PM
Nice winner Adz well done

Only not posting in here as have started a "proper" job again and just dont have the time to look at day to day stuff as often as before


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
I'm in for tosser posts.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 05, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
Defo keep posting them up mate, I don't always back them but I like to read your thoughts. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 06, 2014, 12:23:02 AM
I tend to back your losers not your winners! But enjoy trying to learn and same with Scotty on the dogs gives me a nice sweat when otherwise I would be punting blind!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 06, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
Today's bets:

4.00 Fakenham   Lamb Or Cod   5/6

5.40 Fairyhouse   Royal Shot           20/1   Doesn't seem like this would have to improve much to have a real chance here, backed e/w 4 places  with BV (PP are paying 5 places, but unfortunately make it a 12/1 shot)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 12:41:52 PM
My fav flat meeting of the year starts tomorrow up in Chester, and now going to be busy until racing tomorrow, but prices available for each of the races I'm interested in so....

1.45. Lily Agnes Stakes. Its sponsored by Michael Owen who owns Manor house Stables where Tom Dascombe trains and they are always very keen to win this. I recall Julius Geezer wining in 2010 the last time i went(in the Betfred-i think-bookies in town after racing, me and a friend had the last leg of a treble running onto The Cool Guy at the Chelt Hunter Chase evening. In the bookies was a certain statistical dressing gown wearing pundit from the tv, who had me and my mate in stitches everytime he kept taking his false teeth out and checking them for food bits. So much we missed cheering our horse home....happy days). Anyway, he also had the winner last year.
This year, the stable have a once raced horse called Roudee(The Roodeye is the nickname of Chester Race Course, so I think you know where this is going). it won its only race and looks to be just the ticket.
Sadly it has a very poor draw out in 9, but this also looks a moderate race, with lots of the entries being form smaller stables and not much form, and I have to suggest a little ew at 11/2 with Slybet or Sid.

2.45. i mentioned to a few people over the last week I fancied Glenard for the Chester Cup at slightly bigger prices, i must confess. Every time they step this horse up it looks to improve a smidge but always leaving the impression, a bit further would help even more. Hills family love winners at chester, and there has been money for it since it got the last place in the race. Again drawn badly, but looks a poor Chester Cup to me, and ew @ 10s still looks just about ok.

Finally one the form book boys will laugh at...
3.15 Ballesteros. Bought by Marwan Koooolcash, who targets Chester winners, like I target the kebab shop every Saturday night. This horse has a single chester run a couple of years ago but he was a most impressive winner, and he is now only two pounds above that mark but with a trainer who seems to be getting a new tune from him. Fahey, also has bought into the MK desire for Chester success and will be doing his best to please his biggest patron.
Theme of the day, drawn badly, but he is a slow starter anyway, and if you get a good draw here as a slow starter, that can often cause you more problems, than being drawn a bit wider, and therfore having time to find your legs/flo in the race. His last race at Newbury looked like a lovely limber up for this, and with Frank booked I think 10s looks tidy with WH.

Gonna need some luck in running tomorrow, but sure we have three horses tuned up to give their best. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 06, 2014, 12:49:01 PM
Go on then. Make me rich.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2014, 01:24:44 PM
Cheers Adamski... lovely little trixie for a Wednesday afternoon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 06, 2014, 06:28:24 PM
Glenard in 2:45 with paddypower is money back if second or third.

Paying top 4 too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 06:44:22 PM
Go careful with Ballesteros. It looks like he may have Olazabal feet!

Apparently he had sore feet this morning and may not run, but as Koooolcash is always keen to have runners galore, who knows.

I'm already on but the normal day of race top up, I shall leave.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 06:49:51 PM
I really really fancy Caspian Prince in the 3.15.

Love the jockey booking too.

Drawn in one, they won't see which way he's gone.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2014, 06:51:29 PM
Go careful with Ballesteros. It looks like he may have Olazabal feet!

Apparently he had sore feet this morning and may not run, but as Koooolcash is always keen to have runners galore, who knows.

I'm already on but the normal day of race top up, I shall leave.

As long as he hasn't got my legs, we'll hopefully be ok ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 06, 2014, 08:17:38 PM
Today's bets:

4.00 Fakenham   Lamb Or Cod   5/6

5.40 Fairyhouse   Royal Shot           20/1   Doesn't seem like this would have to improve much to have a real chance here, backed e/w 4 places  with BV (PP are paying 5 places, but unfortunately make it a 12/1 shot)
An odds-on winner and a non-runner today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 06, 2014, 08:30:21 PM
I really really fancy Caspian Prince in the 3.15.

Love the jockey booking too.

Drawn in one, they won't see which way he's gone.

I used to go to Chester for the May Meeting every year and can't say I backed many in trap 9.  We need funds for our scoop 6 addiction.  Seems to be getting backed but still 11/2 with beteverydayoftheyeae and you get that 4/1 offer.  Go the Prince.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 09:01:06 PM
After seeing the Ballesteros news, better have a save on the Camel horse. Cant say Ive ever seen him really really anything! GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 06, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
Like Suegioo in the Cup

Nice low draw

Races up with the pace

Breeding and running style suggests this big step up in trip will help

Ryan Moore booked

No pace really amongst the low numbers be surprised if Moore is not in a good position with 2 furlongs to go, whether the horse fancies it/good enough from there im not sure,

Backed it at 16's earlier today

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 09:09:45 PM
After seeing the Ballesteros news, better have a save on the Camel horse. Cant say Ive ever seen him really really anything! GL

If ever I've seen a horse tailor made for a course it's Caspian Prince and Chester.

And when he got he the red box I imagine Tony Carroll got his tired old todger out and knocked one out.

Probably miss the kick now I've given it the big build up, but take a look at a couple of his videos.

Flying machine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
After seeing the Ballesteros news, better have a save on the Camel horse. Cant say Ive ever seen him really really anything! GL

If ever I've seen a horse tailor made for a course it's Caspian Prince and Chester.

And when he got he the red box I imagine Tony Carroll got his tired old todger out and knocked one out.

Probably miss the kick now I've given it the big build up, but take a look at a couple of his videos.

Flying machine.

Infectious Mr H!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 06, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
Also like SIR MAXIMILIAN in the sprint

Goes well/best fresh

fairly handicapped

good draw

good chester form

Nicky Vaughan to Tim Pitt a plus (trainer switch)

8/1 is fair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
Sorry horsey...am now seriously overstaked as it is!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 06, 2014, 09:23:59 PM
np think my last racing winner was sometime in deepest winter in a class 6 staying event at Southwell


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 09:24:31 PM
Then ur dangerous and due!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 10:38:27 PM
There's another horse I'm interested in tomorrow.

Lady Yeates in the last.

Zoomed to the top of my horses to follow list with a wildly impressive win at Redcar, when she was so unfit she had a bigger belly than me.

Somewhat surprised Moore is running her at a speed track like Chester as she looks like she will improve the further she goes.

Going to throw away tuppence happenny on her at 8/1, but she is definitely one to watch tomorrow and in coming weeks. I think she could improve a stone on her current mark.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 10:42:03 PM
Talked myself into having a pay for a trip Vegas Lucky 15

Cheerio Sweetie 11/4
Mubaraza 5/1
Caspian Prince 11/2
Lady Yeates 8/1


gogogogogo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 06, 2014, 11:00:44 PM
Anyone have a view on Uganda Glory as a potential e/w shot to nothing @ 6-1 in 3.35 Brighton tomorrow? I was looking at this race in light of recent comments in TFT re. the importance of course form at Brighton. My reservation with UG is she doesn't appear to go well after a break, though does have C&D form. The favourite Nesterenko 10/11 has been hurdling over 2 miles and has no form on comparable racecourses that I can see.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 11:46:17 PM
Anyone have a view on Uganda Glory as a potential e/w shot to nothing @ 6-1 in 3.35 Brighton tomorrow? I was looking at this race in light of recent comments in TFT re. the importance of course form at Brighton. My reservation with UG is she doesn't appear to go well after a break, though does have C&D form. The favourite Nesterenko 10/11 has been hurdling over 2 miles and has no form on comparable racecourses that I can see.


Interesting jockey booking, surprised Crowley isn't at Chester.

I would suggest the horse hasn't exactly been campaigned on its merits thus far.

Was in my "to watch" book all last season.

Would be surprised if tomorrow was the day as it is up against a potentially very well hamdicapped horse.

Brakes on whatto!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 07, 2014, 11:10:52 AM
Ballasteros confirmed NR.

Done a mix and match for today. Let's get em.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 07, 2014, 11:14:53 AM
Paddy has some offers on Chester card. Money back if 2nd or 3rd in the 2:45 and extra place on the 3:15 IIRC


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 11:18:09 AM
Thats good(I think?!).

Didn't want Camel tears(as I am probably the best reader of stall 14 horses in sprints at Chester in the whole of the UK) and now we can all row in together!! ;)

GL everyone


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 07, 2014, 11:25:18 AM
You really backing a 2yo from stall 9 Adzy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 11:39:36 AM
You really backing a 2yo from stall 9 Adzy?


Uh oh. I wondered when the draw police would surface!!

I did question myself on this point, but Dascombe and Owen always have their charge for this race spot on(or seem to). The form of his last race has worked out with two behind winning their next races

I would, though,refer my learned colleague to last years renewal where they won it from stall 8!! The 3 that broke fastest were 7,8,9.

It may be asking a lot for lightening to strike twice, but in answer to your question, yes Siree! I am on ew btw.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 12:04:38 PM
You really backing a 2yo from stall 9 Adzy?


Uh oh. I wondered when the draw police would surface!!

I did question myself on this point, but Dascombe and Owen always have their charge for this race spot on(or seem to). The form of his last race has worked out with two behind winning their next races

I would, though,refer my learned colleague to last years renewal where they won it from stall 8!! The 3 that broke fastest were 7,8,9.

It may be asking a lot for lightening to strike twice, but in answer to your question, yes Siree! I am on ew btw.

Draw police surfaced at 8.30 PM yesterday.  Chompy is the chief draw rozzer tho.  Backed everything else but couldn't bring myself to back that one. 

Good luck everyone. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 12:24:46 PM
I know the maths play is go low, but if it was that easy etc etc.

I can only put up what i fancy and why i fancy it, no one is obliged to follow. I readily admit i dont get it right on a lot of occasions, but if you follow me on this thread you will do ok.  ;topofclass; (However I am NOT the foremost racing expert in the whole of the UK....nearly, but not quite. rotflmfao)

In the last few years, I have seen many many tips i just couldnt see winning. However my personal chosen avenue is to try and encourage participation, or say nothing..... ;whistle; ;D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 07, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
Bets for today, prices taken last night. Will obv. be following many of the selections itt, but these were my picks
4.10 Brighton   Aqua Ardens   7/4
9.15 Kempton   Anjuna Beach   15/8

3.35 Brighton   Uganda Glory   6/1      Couldn't resist a tiny e/w bet, but definitely should have done. Note to self: time spent looking at a race shouldn't mean you try to force a bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 01:59:45 PM
I was impressed with Mukhmal at Mussy when it beat Cheerio Sweetie quite comfortably on debut.  Obviously as has been discussed the draw at Chester is super important but if Hanagan can get Mukhamal in a nice position early it could run a big race, Obviously i am typing this prior to seeing the horse going nuts in the paddock and my cash is already down. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 02:09:29 PM
I was impressed with Mukhmal at Mussy when it beat Cheerio Sweetie quite comfortably on debut.  Obviously as has been discussed the draw at Chester is super important but if Hanagan can get Mukhamal in a nice position early it could run a big race, Obviously i am typing this prior to seeing the horse going nuts in the paddock and my cash is already down. 

N1.  10 from 9.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 07, 2014, 02:09:37 PM
Backing The Draw For Profit 2014

High numbers are best at Chester.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 02:11:12 PM
Must be variance....... ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:14:10 PM
Happy with that.  I think this could turn out to be a decent type.   It won that well, taking into account that it used up lots of energy in the paddock and also in the early part of that race.  

At Mussy the last time which is normally a track for proper speedy types it wasn't in the van early but took it up about 1 and a half from home and stayed on well winning easily.  



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:14:37 PM
Must be variance....... ;whistle;

I would say so mate when I am on the winner ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 02:16:37 PM
Its easy after, but they were the best two on paper before the race.

thankfully the experts get bogged down with history and statistics and give those that can see the wood for the trees, a better price. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 07, 2014, 02:19:58 PM
Second?

That's no good.

Each Way nits ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 02:21:26 PM
Its easy after, but they were the best two on paper before the race.

thankfully the experts get bogged down with history and statistics and give those that can see the wood for the trees, a better price. ;)

Sample size confirmed big enough.  Both of us 0-1 yo.   ;nana;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 07, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
Second will do me. Over to Glenard to bring home the bacon for the cheeky ew double.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
Its easy after, but they were the best two on paper before the race.

thankfully the experts get bogged down with history and statistics and give those that can see the wood for the trees, a better price. ;)

Sample size confirmed big enough.  Both of us 0-1 yo.   ;nana;


TY Doobs, I like ur style.x


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
Got Bright Approach on the Hills betting for nits offer at 5/2.  Flash vs form.  Draw not so important here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:35:43 PM
Secret Pursuit smallis e/w for me. 

And two fore casts with Terrific/Sweet Pursuit and Terrific/Lady Tyne


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
Secret Pursuit smallis e/w for me. 

And two fore casts with Terrific/Sweet Pursuit and Terrific/Lady Tyne

Confirmed boss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
ul kmac /well done in first and each way money there

Very game fillies there the front two


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:44:06 PM
Thought we were going to do a win.  I actually looked at Anipa, but i have this habit of never betting Atzeni on a winner.  That trend continues, pretty sure if I punted that Secret Pursuit would have got up.  FML.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
LOL, stop it.

FML after a winner and a second, you must run v good!

Keep it up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
I had them on a ucky 15 win only :-(

I couldn't have Top Cop at Brighton with stolen money.  If I had the funds on betty i'd be a layer. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 03:16:54 PM
Like Suegioo in the Cup

Nice low draw

Races up with the pace

Breeding and running style suggests this big step up in trip will help

Ryan Moore booked

No pace really amongst the low numbers be surprised if Moore is not in a good position with 2 furlongs to go, whether the horse fancies it/good enough from there im not sure,

Backed it at 16's earlier today

gd lk all

top tipping HP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 03:17:23 PM
Booom!

there you go Horsey! Nowt so dangerous as a moan!. Had a little save on it so wp sir, ty.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 07, 2014, 03:18:55 PM
Nice One Horsey, I dithered till very last minute but thankfully didn't want to leave your fancy out. Wondered if it was ever gonna get a run there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2014, 03:20:36 PM
Like Suegioo in the Cup

Nice low draw

Races up with the pace

Breeding and running style suggests this big step up in trip will help

Ryan Moore booked

No pace really amongst the low numbers be surprised if Moore is not in a good position with 2 furlongs to go, whether the horse fancies it/good enough from there im not sure,

Backed it at 16's earlier today

gd lk all

Wonderful, well done John, and glad you had a bit on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 03:25:39 PM
N1 Horsey, I never realised that was your selection I was on that as well.  Sadly not at 16's.  I have 2 winners and a place on my lucky 15.  I could have been doing the Vegas trip camel mentioned if Secret Pursuit had won. 

I am on Confessional in the next so still a small chance of a decent return. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
Sadly Glenard the dreaded 5th.


Only thing to do is combo FC/TC on the next with the three posted advices on here. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2014, 03:36:13 PM
Well done horsey, even though Spencer tried to run him off the track :D

Would have been fun watching that one in the stewards room had he not got up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 03:42:37 PM
Horsey confirmed boss status


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2014, 03:42:39 PM
Also like SIR MAXIMILIAN in the sprint

Goes well/best fresh

fairly handicapped

good draw

good chester form

Nicky Vaughan to Tim Pitt a plus (trainer switch)

8/1 is fair

Confirmed on fire.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 03:43:01 PM
wow i can still tip winners

thanks all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 07, 2014, 03:43:32 PM
What is horsey doing working for a living?


Too good, well done mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 03:44:15 PM
Open to offers Keith

Thanks mate means a lot



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Turn your attention to Brighton Horsey. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
Despite being very close to Brighton geographical wise Kmac would be the last track i punt at or visit

good luck though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
Great work chaps. Horsey back on form, good news

£31 forecast if anyone else joined in?! ;cheerleader;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 07, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
Oi oi horsey! Incred scenes!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 03:58:33 PM
Fantastic work by Fallon  ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 07, 2014, 04:05:08 PM
Oioi, great work from the team and esp horsey!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 07, 2014, 04:34:44 PM
Well done Horsey, saw the first but somehow missed the second so got back what Adz lost me today  ;yippee;

The king is dead long live the king!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 04:42:55 PM
I "only" chucked in a £30 fc for all my fans late on......no pleasing you lot ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 07, 2014, 05:01:45 PM
I "only" chucked in a £30 fc for all my fans late on......no pleasing you lot ;)

Haha, just re read a few posts, I must have been asleep half the afternoon. Well done Adz hope u got the lot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 05:20:42 PM
Nice work Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 07, 2014, 05:23:52 PM
They've flown round in the first 5 races but walked for a mile in the one race I wanted a strong pace.

Oh well, she didn't run at all badly, there will be another day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on May 07, 2014, 08:47:13 PM
great calls today guys.

vwp


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 07, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Bets for today, prices taken last night. Will obv. be following many of the selections itt, but these were my picks
4.10 Brighton   Aqua Ardens   7/4
9.15 Kempton   Anjuna Beach   15/8

3.35 Brighton   Uganda Glory   6/1      Couldn't resist a tiny e/w bet, but definitely should have done. Note to self: time spent looking at a race shouldn't mean you try to force a bet.
Hmmm,,  nil returns today. Was at least correct in wanting to oppose the fav Nesterenko in the 3.35 which finished plumb last. As for the 9.15 if there was any attempt made to get Anjuna Beach into contention I must have missed it !



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2014, 10:44:54 AM
I presume its bad weather up north as well as down here

Dont fancy a thing at Chester today infact looks impossible.

Half fancy something at Southwell but missed the bigger prices, will have another look this afternoon and if big enough will post it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 08, 2014, 11:17:29 AM
Tough as suggested, but having a little ew on Strictly Silver in the first. Fallon up and seems to need this distance now. Out quickly after a respectable effort at the weekend, always a good sign with Bailey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 01:37:14 PM
On my holidays so lets do a gamble! 

But agree with the lads that Chester looks tough, but I am going to get involved with a few lucjy 15's and fire a few small singles in the C4 races. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
Very very hard to see the old boy GENERAL TUFTO out the 3 in the first at Southwell imo

Was a bit interested in Shamiana at 14's this morning but not now at half those odds.

If one of the proper firms goes 11/2 ill be having a small eway interest in the old boy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
Placepot down in first race.  Geegee!

Done everything to talk myself of Tres Coronas.  Meh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 08, 2014, 02:11:44 PM
No good. Like you Kmac, talked myself out of the obvious.

Watching brief for rest of the day and hope that Brooky can fluke a win later in the Vase.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 02:12:24 PM
Looks like a bit of a move for Roger Thorpe, you think this is just e/w money Horsey as the fav still seems pretty solid.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 02:18:06 PM
Loves chasing one home that one...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2014, 02:23:41 PM
Yep won plenty over the years but now seems happiest just following one home

no damage done looks like a small touch landed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 02:29:30 PM
Yep won plenty over the years but now seems happiest just following one home

no damage done looks like a small touch landed

I remember backing him last year around xmas, and he almost paid for it!

Won next time out, but it was more a paying for dinner price :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2014, 02:30:57 PM
In that grade would not be any horse i would be more confident having a big bet on hitting the three

Old stick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 02:36:17 PM
Weary of backing Ektihaam had my fingers  badly burnt when he slipped in the Hardwicke.  I really thought he looked a top prospect last year.  But he then rand badly in the King George. Might be a bit soft in the head. 

I think I like Noble Mission best, but put off slightly by the draw.  I know yesterday the low draw never played as big a part as we all expected. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 02:38:53 PM
LIKE! 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 03:48:54 PM
Kinda gutted on the placepot so far had it not been for the first race let-down I'd have 6 live lines with 2 races to go. 

Smallish winner with the lucky 15,  2 winners and a place.  Couple of random punts at Newton Abbot and Southwell and I'm winning very small. 

I need to sort out my staking plan though. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 03:50:51 PM
See Joseph sings off the same hymn sheet as father when interviewed 'Listen, he's a nice horse, listen'


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 03:57:47 PM
Unlucky mate, but profit is profit :)

I didn't do much today, but still knocked in a few quid.

I backed Strictly Silver last night at 20s, so was happy to see money for it, and then happier when Adz says he is on too!

Did a trixie last night with Telescope-Orchestra and the nutjob that pinged Hanagan just now.

If I had waited until this morning, I would have swapped Telescope with NM due to the weather.

Another day tomorrow, so hopefully the pin can sharpen up this evening...

What's a staking plan?

;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 09:21:48 AM
3 small bets for me today.

3.05 Lingfield

This is not my usual sort of race i would bet in but when a horse i have had notebooked for a while is 11/1-12/1 i have to get involved.

Horse is DJINNI pretty sure she will need a mile to be seen to best potential and this race is full of more unexposed animals who could just be better. She has been dropped 5lbs after flopping last time but im sure she could progress to a pattern filly in time. Obviously a lot of these could be better than handicappers and with the distance doubts just a small bet.


Like two in the 3.50 at Chester one obvious one, one not so much.

VERSE OF LOVE usually runs a good race, has a plum draw great running style for Chester and has ran well despite being hassled for the lead on both starts this season. A less obvious one is LORD OF THE DANCE was some mean feat to win six times last season and by the end of the season had not surprisingly had enough racing/ risen to high in the weights.

This is a nice drop in grade and back to turf and is now down to a mark it could win from again, conditions no problem. At 33's ill take a chance he can surprise again like he did so often last season.

So three small win only bets for me today, good luck all.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 09, 2014, 03:58:23 PM
Channel 4 Racing at Chester - at least you get The Specials to play out as the credits roll...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGDQ85Dg-ss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 09, 2014, 04:10:23 PM
N1 Horsey!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 04:11:44 PM
cheers adz

John Egan rolling back the years there, love the way he stops his training career every year to ride a few for Evans at Chester

Gutsy win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 09, 2014, 04:13:39 PM
Well done Horsey, shame the first one never ran its race.  I had 3 singles and 3 e/w doubles.  Small profit on the selections but could have been so much nicer. 

I have been killed today. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 09, 2014, 04:18:17 PM
Of course you can also get a nice priced winner if you prefer, Horsey on fire. Many thanks.  Next up Scoop 6 !!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 09, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
Had some unwanted guests for the last 90 minutes or so, and have missed what Dale Gibson has been saying but caught the latter end of it there.  He should be given such a more prominent role imo.  I aways enjoy listening to what he has to say. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 09, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
this isn't meant to be aftertimey, but i am just a racing ice-cream...not really got the confidence to mix it with the racing lads on here but i do read the thread, but had this up today with satan j

                Chester 14:15    Outright Betting, Kingfisher, 7/2
   Won    
      Chester 13:45    Outright Betting, Here Comes When, 7/2
   Won    
      Chester 14:45    Outright Betting, Brown Panther, 6/4
   Won    
      Chester 15:15    Outright Betting, Blithe Spirit, 3/1
   Won    
     Lucky15 £1.66, 15 bets, £24.90         £964.81


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 04:24:27 PM
Of course you can also get a nice priced winner if you prefer, Horsey on fire. Many thanks.  Next up Scoop 6 !!

ty sir


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on May 09, 2014, 04:34:41 PM
Oi Oi


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 09, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
Well done Tighty I had 3 of them split over two lines :-(

I know ATR is behind when showing "live" but I was shocked to see there it was behind the 365 online coverage.  

In running punters must get shafted a helluva lot unless they have some access to pictures via another medium.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 09, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
vwp Horsey, I missed both obv, will be on the next one so don't bet big. I am cursed, millibok. :(

Wal Tighty. Share and share alike.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 09, 2014, 04:40:40 PM
this isn't meant to be aftertimey, but i am just a racing ice-cream...not really got the confidence to mix it with the racing lads on here but i do read the thread, but had this up today with satan j

                Chester 14:15    Outright Betting, Kingfisher, 7/2
   Won    
      Chester 13:45    Outright Betting, Here Comes When, 7/2
   Won    
      Chester 14:45    Outright Betting, Brown Panther, 6/4
   Won    
      Chester 15:15    Outright Betting, Blithe Spirit, 3/1
   Won    
     Lucky15 £1.66, 15 bets, £24.90         £964.81


(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/49621509.jpg)


Well done mate, great touch!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 09, 2014, 05:44:29 PM
Horsey, on fire this week!

Well done, great stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 06:02:00 PM
ty tikay

an early one for tommorow night

Its a tough handicap but there is no way in the world RIO COBOLO should be 20/1 for Thirsk 7.40 tommorow night

Been with kirby for two runs one good one and one what looks bad last time over 6 at catterick but got stuck early in race.

Mile fine, mark fine, trainer excellent



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 09, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
ty tikay

an early one for tommorow night

Its a tough handicap but there is no way in the world RIO COBOLO should be 20/1 for Thirsk 7.40 tommorow night

Been with kirby for two runs one good one and one what looks bad last time over 6 at catterick but got stuck early in race.

Mile fine, mark fine, trainer excellent



BMU go 22/1 Rio Cobolo at present.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 10:44:03 PM
Yes

I may have got this badly wrong but have gone in again at 20's

Only bet tommorow so we will see

Has book turned up yet Tikay btw?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 09, 2014, 10:47:48 PM
Yes

I may have got this badly wrong but have gone in again at 20's

Only bet tommorow so we will see

Has book turned up yet Tikay btw?

Have had a small interest @ 22/1 John.

The book was not there today, am in the office tomorrow morning, will maybe be there then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 10, 2014, 12:49:54 PM
Someone put this up a while back I think, but anyway, I think today is the day.

Born To Surprise 5.10 Ling. Can get 4s on Sky, but not for long I expect.

I'm sure Fred will be rolling in it by then and celebrating wildly, so get on now! 8)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 10, 2014, 12:57:17 PM
4/1 long gone. 7/2 best price elsewhere now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
4/1 long gone. 7/2 best price elsewhere now.

Still some 4/1 at the after dinner mints...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 10, 2014, 01:13:49 PM
Yep that was me

Convinced this has a win in it for Carter but 4's is not getting my juices going to much

Hope it wins though

Rio Cobolo is now 40's lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 10, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
Yep that was me

Convinced this has a win in it for Carter but 4's is not getting my juices going to much

Hope it wins though

Rio Cobolo is now 40's lol

Should we go in again?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 10, 2014, 01:44:28 PM
As always upto you

Technically i should but when i make something single figures and its 40's i have probably missed something quite obvious

Had enough on for me at 20's last night anyway

shrewd


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2014, 04:37:48 PM
Right, where is that 40/1 shot?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 04:39:58 PM
Right, where is that 40/1 shot?



7:40 Thirsk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
I haven't bet much today, been a tough one across many of the cards.  One I looked at last night when going over the form though was Prince Regal in the last at Ascot.  I felt that its coming from a stable that is right in form at the moment, it has imo thebest 3lb claimer about on board my concern earlier was the draw I felt he was pretty much in the middle and might not know were to go if they split.  But with a few non runners  he is now likely to get a better position.   There has also been bits and bobs around in the market for it.  I like is as a bet to nothing e/w there is some 11/1 available with beteveryday. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
Cheers mate.

One more for a trixie :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
Cheers mate.

One more for a trixie :)


Great Expectations 5:10 Lingfield? 

C/D form, good jockey, stable coming to hand, won the same race last year.  Spent no time on that mind you just looking at whats in front of me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
Cheers mate.

One more for a trixie :)


Great Expectations 5:10 Lingfield? 

C/D form, good jockey, stable coming to hand, won the same race last year.  Spent no time on that mind you just looking at whats in front of me.

Ahhhh, I've backed Born to Surprise in that, so will just do a single.

Good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
Meh, used up far too much early doors. 

I think I might just start blacking Hughes blind.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 05:32:31 PM
RFC - Cheers Marky :-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on May 10, 2014, 05:41:52 PM
Nice one Horsey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 10, 2014, 05:43:40 PM
Someone put this up a while back I think, but anyway, I think today is the day.

Born To Surprise 5.10 Ling. Can get 4s on Sky, but not for long I expect.

I'm sure Fred will be rolling in it by then and celebrating wildly, so get on now! 8)

Beeeeeeeeeaaaaaaast!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Micko on May 10, 2014, 05:49:14 PM
Great work Adz :respect:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on May 10, 2014, 06:00:44 PM
Nice one Horsey.

Sorry, nice one Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on May 10, 2014, 09:07:33 PM
Someone put this up a while back I think, but anyway, I think today is the day.

Born To Surprise 5.10 Ling. Can get 4s on Sky, but not for long I expect.

I'm sure Fred will be rolling in it by then and celebrating wildly, so get on now! 8)

Beeeeeeeeeaaaaaaast!

Back from the kids birthday party to find I'm quite a few quid richer !!

Cheers Horsey and Adz  :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 10, 2014, 09:32:28 PM
Lol

Wp Horsey. N1......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 10, 2014, 09:53:32 PM


(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/20349/wenger-o.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 11, 2014, 12:00:11 PM
Strictly a for those that can bet.

Muwarry is 14s with Racebets for the French 2000G at 2.45. Its around 8s everywhere else, which is about right.

Its inexperienced but looks a horse of real potential. At 14s its worth a bit ew.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 11, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
annoying i left that alone yesterday

never mind well done those who backed it!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 11, 2014, 12:58:31 PM
annoying i left that alone yesterday

never mind well done those who backed it!


Just a question of keeping your eye out for the right race mate. Wouldn't have kept an eye on it if you hadn't pointed it out a few races back.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 11, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
Aye believe me i have been watching its entries like a hawk since the silver lincoln for some reason probably time didnt bother this week

never mind


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 11, 2014, 08:00:05 PM
The 3.40 at Musselburgh is an interesting contest tommorow.

Reason for looking at this race is you have nearly 50% of the early market taken up with Fly Solo and Merchant of Medici.

Fly Solo has a maiden win from 14 career runs. He has been beaten at short prices fairly regularly, can win and Swinbank is obviously in really good form so may start even shorter.

Merchant of Medici is similar but has an even longer losing run to overcome not winning since 2011.

Both can win but would not be the most likely winners of any race.

Latin Rebel is next in and is a maiden for Jim Goldie, Love Marmalade has been backed already early after a fair re appearance for A Whillians after joining from Johnston.

I dont like backing horses that have left MJ to return to form and a mark of 75 is no gimme anyway.

I like three in here (ouch) to differing degrees.

The main bet for me is MUSIKHANI at 14's for Phil Kirby. Still lightly raced ran two fair races for Andrew Balding last season to a mark of around 70. On debut for Kirby ten days ago ran very very free and had no chance after that. Hopefully they have learnt from that and the horse is now ready to run her race.

She may just not be very good but at least she has some potential progression in here unlike so many of these.

PHASE SHIFT has done ok for Ellison over hurdles at a lowish level slowly progressing to a low 120's mark. Not taken at all to novice chasing last two starts so returns to the flat on a mark of 57.

Not thrown in but the form of her Catterick claimer win just over a year ago would get her involved here and she has improved slightly since that win over hurdles.

The final bet is someone i rarely back and thats Mark Johnston. CHAPERELLA is a maiden who came from France and was beaten 22 lengths on debut for MJ ten days.

Hugh Taylor recently commented that MJ's handicappers beaten 20 lengths or more are worth following as mad as that sounds.

It would never be a positive but a horse being hammered in his stable and then winning next time out is much more common than any other trainer. Unexposed could be hopeless but im chancing here at 16's.

Smallish bet on Musikhani at 14's

Two even smaller bets on Phase Shift and Chaparella.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 12, 2014, 12:41:28 PM
First race at Donny Today.

1
(4)
385-44    Lightning Shower (USA)
3    11-7 p1    M Botti    Mr Mario Baratti    100/30
2
(3)
7-13    Deep Resolve (IRE)
3    11-6    G A Swinbank    Mr S Walker    6/4
3
(5)
904-8    Come On Sunshine
3    11-5 h    B Ellison    Mr F Mitchell    7/1
4
(6)
358-83    Newgate Queen
3    10-11    T Coyle    Mr K Wood (7)    6/1
5
(1)
9-11305    Enquiring
3    10-11    M Johnston    Mr Alex Ferguson (5)    8/1
6

(2)
73753-5    Blue Talisman (IRE)
3    10-9 b    T D Easterby    Mr W Easterby (5)    8/1
7
(7)
970-    That Be Grand
3    10-7    S A Harris    Mr Graham Carson (5)    33/1



Think the bloke needs more than a 5lb claim


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 12, 2014, 05:01:32 PM
Do well to get a race more wrong apart from opposing the two non winners never mind.

Jumps one from the notebook tomorrow

Sedgefield 2.50 One For Hocky

Had a very small bet at 7/2 early but if any bigger appears will have some more later.

Takes the now usual route of trying in nh flat events and even winning one before three runs in novice events were not put into the race. A mark of 84 almost certainly underplays his ability and with the first time hood they have the excuse lined up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 15, 2014, 08:42:26 AM
Today could see a parting of the ways between a mismatched couple.

My relationship with Elusivity has been a one street, and akin to me falling in love with a what looked like a beautiful woman who continually lets me down, but I keep asking her back and paying for holidays, cars and expensive meals, but getting nothing back in return.

And so it is since I started following Elusivity a few seasons ago. He looked like he was about to become to become a great sprinter, putting up performance after performance of immense promise, but always, not quite getting there, being badly draw, or the ever popular excuse "unlucky in running". He has been through 3 trainers during our time together and I have started to pass him over the last couple of runs and I felt the spell had finally been broken.

Then last night I see he has been drawn down what appeared to be the golden strip on the near side of the middle of the course at York. Bugger. Peter Crate had always said that he would take 4/5 runs before he had a target for him. Gulp. Then I notice his only run at York over 5f was one of his best. Oh shit. He also has my fav hold up jockety of the moment on board in Shane Kelly.

Last chance matey. Plenty of 12s available and even some 14s on Betdaq, but I expect that is peanuts. Will probably be the end of an era, but the stars may finally have aligned the either kill or cure me of this obsession. GL, or just wish me luck, I understand I could well be going in alone!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 08:47:48 AM
Today could see a parting of the ways between a mismatched couple.

My relationship with Elusivity has been a one street, and akin to me falling in love with a what looked like a beautiful woman who continually lets me down, but I keep asking her back and paying for holidays, cars and expensive meals, but getting nothing back in return.

And so it is since I started following Elusivity a few seasons ago. He looked like he was about to become to become a great sprinter, putting up performance after performance of immense promise, but always, not quite getting there, being badly draw, or the ever popular excuse "unlucky in running". He has been through 3 trainers during our time together and I have started to pass him over the last couple of runs and I felt the spell had finally been broken.

Then last night I see he has been drawn down what appeared to be the golden strip on the near side of the middle of the course at York. Bugger. Peter Crate had always said that he would take 4/5 runs before he had a target for him. Gulp. Then I notice his only run at York over 5f was one of his best. Oh shit. He also has my fav hold up jockety of the moment on board in Shane Kelly.

Last chance matey. Plenty of 12s available and even some 14s on Betdaq, but I expect that is peanuts. Will probably be the end of an era, but the stars may finally have aligned the either kill or cure me of this obsession. GL, or just wish me luck, I understand I could well be going in alone!

We will hold hands & lose our money together, I've invested a tiddlerarse £10 EW.

Note that £3.65 are quoting 16/1, though I could not get on, as they only offered me £1 EW.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 15, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
I'm worse than the Benfica curse so  apologies in advance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 15, 2014, 08:58:27 AM
Cheers Tikay......I think......gone in again..... ;dingdell;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
Cheers Tikay......I think......gone in again..... ;dingdell;

Super-Bok is on board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 15, 2014, 09:02:08 AM
If it cures me, so be it Tikay!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 09:38:42 AM


Did anyone see the interview from York Races yesterday with the breeder of Madame Chiang?

If that sort of thing interests you, unlikely, I know, but I've penned some stuff about that most remarkable woman, here....


http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=25486.msg1940576#msg1940576


(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/tikay2/tikay2182/KRA1_zpsddae12d5.jpg) (http://s1147.photobucket.com/user/tikay2/media/tikay2182/KRA1_zpsddae12d5.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 15, 2014, 10:51:38 AM
My e/w bet today:

4.45 Salisbury   Bennelong   14/1 BetVictor


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 15, 2014, 11:09:33 AM
Cheers Tikay......I think......gone in again..... ;dingdell;

5 places ...... 14-1........ I'm in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: scotty2hatty on May 15, 2014, 01:43:51 PM
Time does Elusivity run? I'm being lazy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Time does Elusivity run? I'm being lazy.

1.45, Scott.

Fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 15, 2014, 01:51:02 PM
If mine doesnt win hope yours does lads

Backed Secret Witness very small at 20'sish often ran well quick returning from a poor run loves this race wish Harris was in better nick but cant have it all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 15, 2014, 02:08:47 PM

Good call Adz

VUL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 15, 2014, 02:09:03 PM

unlucky adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 02:09:05 PM


Oooohhhhh.

So nearly.

Nice EW profit though, nice one Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 15, 2014, 02:09:21 PM

Good call Adz

VUL

+1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 15, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
ul adz ran well

Mine got stopped half a furlong out never ideal in a sprint and rattled home for 5th


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 15, 2014, 02:19:46 PM
Thought for a second....but also know his burst doesn't last that long......very much like me!

Oh well more profits for the P&L.

Onwards.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 15, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
Thought for a second....but also know his burst doesn't last that long......very much like me!

Oh well more profits for the P&L.

Onwards.

Carry on trolling the racing thread Adam, your making us money. Nearly normal service resumed.  :respect:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 15, 2014, 03:16:18 PM
Burn Grey Gatsby........


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 17, 2014, 02:34:04 PM
Scoop six nobbled, so let's go plan B:

Indignant, Win, 2.40 Newbury  
Gamesome, Win, 2.55 Newmarket  
Oldjoesaid, Win, 3.25 Thirsk  
Deeds Not Words, Win, 3.30 Newmarket: Sprint Trophy  
Save The Bees, Win, 4.00 Thirsk

Doubles and up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 17, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
Scoop six nobbled, so let's go plan B:

Indignant, Win, 2.40 Newbury  
Gamesome, Win, 2.55 Newmarket  
Oldjoesaid, Win, 3.25 Thirsk  
Deeds Not Words, Win, 3.30 Newmarket: Sprint Trophy  
Save The Bees, Win, 4.00 Thirsk

Doubles and up.

sorry no good im on indignant in the next.
UL Tal


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 17, 2014, 02:51:45 PM
Scoop six nobbled, so let's go plan B:

Indignant, Win, 2.40 Newbury  
Gamesome, Win, 2.55 Newmarket  
Oldjoesaid, Win, 3.25 Thirsk  
Deeds Not Words, Win, 3.30 Newmarket: Sprint Trophy  
Save The Bees, Win, 4.00 Thirsk

Doubles and up.

sorry no good im on indignant in the next.
UL Tal

No stranger to a bok myself. If this doesn't go to plan, I'm going to have to try earning money. Let's hope it doesn't have to come to that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 17, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
Scoop six nobbled, so let's go plan B:

Indignant, Win, 2.40 Newbury  
Gamesome, Win, 2.55 Newmarket  
Oldjoesaid, Win, 3.25 Thirsk  
Deeds Not Words, Win, 3.30 Newmarket: Sprint Trophy  
Save The Bees, Win, 4.00 Thirsk

Doubles and up.

There's an old expression in chess that finding the worst move on the board is just as difficult as finding the best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 20, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
General Tufto 2nd again yesterday at Southwell the old stick

Red Invader is out again today after the big Brighton letdown, down in trip at Warwick and Spencer booked the current price of 6-1 has tempted me in for a very small bet.

In the same race Glastonberry has not really run much on turf since improving on the all weather. Being 20 odd lbs lower on the turf looks risky if ready for this. 16's is worth the risk

Two small win bets.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 20, 2014, 11:45:22 AM
Was really impressed by Verrazano in the Lockinge on Saturday. The size of him next to Olympic Glory as they gave the side on view as they left the stalls was staggering.

With a furlong to go he appeared to find his stride but O'Brien made little effort to really get after him, and i think the question mark over his ability to act on grass had been answered. Rarely does AP O'Brien have his ready for the Lockinge and tends to use this as a warm up for R Ascot, and this looked a perfect tune up for the Queen Anne on the opening Day on June 17th. He may not improve sufficently to beat OG, but I think he can, and he may not even have to!

With Hannon having both Olympic Glory and Toranado as first two favs in the same ownership, I cant see both running. That leaves Verrazano currently as third fav at 7-1.

Admittedly O'Brien has alternatives too, but with Verrazanos Group 1 pedigree proven many times over I suspect he will be the number one choice for this.

With several firms as low as 4 and 5-1 I think a hefty ew bet now is called for at 7-1 with Betty Sportsbook or UnSportingwontlayaBet. GL



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 20, 2014, 06:06:56 PM
1.15 ir for Red Invader

not for me ever again after that looked an awful ride

Glastonberry quietly well backed and showed a bit of turf promise


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 20, 2014, 09:24:28 PM
mmmm Warwick only lasted two races

Maybe i can account that to the very strange action and attitude



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 22, 2014, 01:14:15 PM
Rather keen on Exotic Guest in 2.20 Ayr.

Ran an "interesting" race behind Taurus Twins at Notts last time without being put under much pressure, and up against a fair few dodgepots in this race. TT franked the form yesterday, and I suspect this may be the horses day.

Looks a fair ew price at 7-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on May 22, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
had a little fun bet today including yours adz

2.20 exotic air 10/1   opt out 16/1 (beofre non runners)
3.25  henpecked 10/1  wolf heart 16/1
3.50 magic city

win doubles and a treble :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 22, 2014, 02:45:14 PM
that was rather poo.

Apols.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 25, 2014, 02:22:37 PM
Last minute decision to go to Uttox races with some mates this afternoon (we only live 15 mins away) any selections for races 3-7 would be greatly appreciated.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 28, 2014, 12:33:31 PM
There's another horse I'm interested in tomorrow.

Lady Yeates in the last.

Zoomed to the top of my horses to follow list with a wildly impressive win at Redcar, when she was so unfit she had a bigger belly than me.

Somewhat surprised Moore is running her at a speed track like Chester as she looks like she will improve the further she goes.

Going to throw away tuppence happenny on her at 8/1, but she is definitely one to watch tomorrow and in coming weeks. I think she could improve a stone on her current mark.
Lady Yeats runs tonight in 6.30 Beverley 4-1 at present


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kpnuts on May 28, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
Beverly abandoned


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Cant help thinking that old rogue Shoreacres is massively overpriced in the 20.25 @ Stratford later.

Up in trip, but a horse who has always promised much. Even last race took the lead and faltered when looking all over the winner. One point that got missed though was a juddering mistake halfway through that would have taken loads out of him.

Rated 4th best on official ratings, 40-1 ew just has to be a bet with Victor, or Sid


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: craigbetts on May 30, 2014, 08:58:14 PM
Cant help thinking that old rogue Shoreacres is massively overpriced in the 20.25 @ Stratford later.

Up in trip, but a horse who has always promised much. Even last race took the lead and faltered when looking all over the winner. One point that got missed though was a juddering mistake halfway through that would have taken loads out of him.

Rated 4th best on official ratings, 40-1 ew just has to be a bet with Victor, or Sid

Great shout Adzy!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 30, 2014, 09:01:23 PM
Cant help thinking that old rogue Shoreacres is massively overpriced in the 20.25 @ Stratford later.

Up in trip, but a horse who has always promised much. Even last race took the lead and faltered when looking all over the winner. One point that got missed though was a juddering mistake halfway through that would have taken loads out of him.

Rated 4th best on official ratings, 40-1 ew just has to be a bet with Victor, or Sid

Great shout Adzy!

Haha, can't keep a good man down! Thank you sir.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 30, 2014, 09:11:37 PM
Second?!
 
Useless


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
Glad a few got on. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
Sick slowroll...


Nice one mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 30, 2014, 10:03:11 PM
nice one


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 31, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
wp wp thanks Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kinboshi on May 31, 2014, 11:19:57 AM
Anyone got any tips for Newmarket today? The missus is there with a group of friends, and wanted some advice on how best to donk her money off :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on May 31, 2014, 11:24:20 AM
Cant help thinking that old rogue Shoreacres is massively overpriced in the 20.25 @ Stratford later.

Up in trip, but a horse who has always promised much. Even last race took the lead and faltered when looking all over the winner. One point that got missed though was a juddering mistake halfway through that would have taken loads out of him.

Rated 4th best on official ratings, 40-1 ew just has to be a bet with Victor, or Sid

great call Adam


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2014, 06:46:34 PM
small ew on Be Royale 8.40 New

Keep you going til the boxing. 12s avail with Victor!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 31, 2014, 07:58:46 PM
Go on then. I'll join you with a forecast on the one I fancy: Royal Connection


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Go on then. I'll join you with a forecast on the one I fancy: Royal Connection

oh bugger


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 31, 2014, 08:08:52 PM
Go on then. I'll join you with a forecast on the one I fancy: Royal Connection

oh bugger

What? You didn't see Hughes had a ride? Mate, you really need to study the card better


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
Ran ok. Looked like getting place money everywhere bar the line. Sadly the dreaded fourth.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2014, 01:37:37 PM
Done a wee bit of work on French Derby and had two small ew bets

Shamikyr @9-1

Mr Pommeroy @50-1

I see PP are paying first 4, if you can get more than £1.26 on either....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2014, 03:44:57 PM
Another frustrating second. The 50-1 shot ran a blinder too.

Too many goalposts!

Nice that won by a Brit and makes all those who said True Story ran a shocker in the Dante look a bit silly!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 11:50:44 AM
At Great Yarmouth on a holiday, going to the races tonight.

Amy tips/fancies lads?

Adz? Horsey?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 03, 2014, 12:14:42 PM
I'm hoping for big things from Adaay in the first but the 5/2 available yesterday long gone.

Rest look horribly hard races, and the only two I could even possibly suggest an interest in are hopefully two Fahey improvers in the last two races McCarthy Mor and Khalahari kingdom. But both for small beer mate.

GL and have fun.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 03, 2014, 12:17:28 PM
Cant find anything

All i will say is that Yarmouth has topped the tracks for the last 5 years for biggest average winning sp so dont be afraid to back a few outsiders.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 01:39:38 PM
Thanks lads, just by the beach now only bit of signal I'm getting, bloody 02!

I'll back the ones you've mentioned Adz.

Ps I fuckin love an outsider!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redarmi on June 03, 2014, 02:01:41 PM
There is an interesting angle that I would love to claim as my own but I got from the excellent Andrew Mount at www.gg.com.  Basically because it is a coastal venue when there is a headwind horses that race prominently especially on the straight course (5f-1m) and tonight there is likely to be a 20mph headwind so looking at horses that come from behind is probably a decent approach.  He suggests Tight Lipped in the 655 but you can probably figure others out with a fairly quick look at the Post.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on June 03, 2014, 02:54:45 PM
I'm hoping for big things from Adaay in the first but the 5/2 available yesterday long gone.

Rest look horribly hard races, and the only two I could even possibly suggest an interest in are hopefully two Fahey improvers in the last two races McCarthy Mor and Khalahari kingdom. But both for small beer mate.

GL and have fun.

Good spot, you got the best of it at 5/2 , looks a decent lil race though and I gotta keep an eye on fallons horse looks a strange race to start a career in .....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 04:03:34 PM
Red, how would I work out which horses like to come from behind?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redarmi on June 03, 2014, 05:33:22 PM
Look in the comments for their previous runs for comments like held up.  More importantly avoid horses with comments like led, raced prominently etc.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 03, 2014, 07:37:23 PM
I'm hoping for big things from Adaay in the first but the 5/2 available yesterday long gone.

Rest look horribly hard races, and the only two I could even possibly suggest an interest in are hopefully two Fahey improvers in the last two races McCarthy Mor and Khalahari kingdom. But both for small beer mate.

GL and have fun.

10/1 will make hopefully make up for missing the 5/2

Cheesr mate ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 08:20:09 PM
Had to leave after the 6.55 little one was whinging a lot. The joys of a family holiday!

Had one winner fallons horse in the second.

Gonna be fuming if I miss an Adz winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 03, 2014, 08:25:24 PM
Looks like you did well to leave early.

Neither were even vaguely moderate fancies so dont go finding a bookie!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 08:31:05 PM
Looks like you did well to leave early.

Neither were even vaguely moderate fancies so dont go finding a bookie!

Ha cheers mate.

Adaawy won really easily, didn't fancy backing a 5/6 shot. Great bet @ 5/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 04, 2014, 01:24:44 PM
Gonna hide this one away in here, as it's utter madness.

Having been upside down and inside out with the form/videos etc I think Island Remede is worth a little ew in The Oaks. Too hungry too set out all my thoughts, but..

If we get testing conditions she is one of few I think will really stay the trip. She may have plenty to find, but at 125-1 and probably a lot more on Betty, come the day, I had to let you wonderful people out there that bother to read this trash.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
Gonna hide this one away in here, as it's utter madness.

Having been upside down and inside out with the form/videos etc I think Island Remede is worth a little ew in The Oaks. Too hungry too set out all my thoughts, but..

If we get testing conditions she is one of few I think will really stay the trip. She may have plenty to find, but at 125-1 and probably a lot more on Betty, come the day, I had to let you wonderful people out there that bother to read this trash.

not so hidden away.....

cough, go on, you know you want to


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 04, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
Did I hear the words "Rank" and "Outsider"?

(https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1383500714/6579742.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 05, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
The Tufto

second again!

seven times in a row


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 07, 2014, 11:47:29 AM
Little ew yankee for Epsom today

Ballesteros  3.15   25s

Lewisham 5.25   9s

Talent 2.40    8s

Blue Surf 4.50   14s


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 07, 2014, 12:01:04 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m67WohR8wb4/T2OZtzf7D0I/AAAAAAAAGww/6LjRCBrEw60/s320/new-york-yankees-logo.jpg) FTW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 07, 2014, 12:07:47 PM
I quite fancy Talent to run well today too, especially if there's a little more rain.

On @ 8/1 EW.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 07, 2014, 12:08:27 PM
Little ew yankee for Epsom today

Ballesteros  3.15   25s

Lewisham 5.25   9s

Talent 2.40    8s

Blue Surf 4.50   14s

I'm at Epsom today mate but il prob just follow you in on singles!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on June 07, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
Little ew yankee for Epsom today

Ballesteros  3.15   25s

Lewisham 5.25   9s

Talent 2.40    8s

Blue Surf 4.50   14s

I'm at Epsom today mate but il prob just follow you in on singles!

are you in Epsom now mate, is it still raining?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 07, 2014, 12:18:30 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m67WohR8wb4/T2OZtzf7D0I/AAAAAAAAGww/6LjRCBrEw60/s320/new-york-yankees-logo.jpg) FTW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 07, 2014, 12:20:39 PM
Little ew yankee for Epsom today

Ballesteros  3.15   25s

Lewisham 5.25   9s

Talent 2.40    8s

Blue Surf 4.50   14s

I'm at Epsom today mate but il prob just follow you in on singles!

are you in Epsom now mate, is it still raining?

No rain right now, grey skies with patches of blue.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 07, 2014, 12:57:21 PM
Any views on the first race guys? Quick look at the card with my novice skills and I like black shadow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 07, 2014, 01:13:12 PM
Sentimental small bet on mates horse. Stars over the Sea

Ran well at Epsom two races ago and last time beaten at Chester by Orchestra and Romsdal who are in Derby. Lead to 2 out and apparently irons twised so jock was sat awkward for half the race.

16s for a little save Ali!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 07, 2014, 02:00:03 PM
Bloody hell. I think there must be a rogue stalls handler pulling the tail of my horses at Epsom, they are all falling out of the stalls and losiig far more distance than they are getting beat.
 :'(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 07, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
Unlucky there mate, I was on the same one. If it pings the gates it wins in my limited horse racing knowledge


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 07, 2014, 02:12:03 PM
Bugger! There's now a NR in Talent's race leaving seven.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on June 07, 2014, 02:57:43 PM


Cheers Sparrow

Ground looks ok at Epsom, taken a couple small EW in The Derby that have close form lines with horses shorter in the betting and seem overpriced. Romsdal at 25/1 and Impulsive Moment at 100/1,  IM needs to improve about a stone to be competitive, but it ran to 97 last time out when rated 80 at the time and wont wont mind the ease in the ground and should stay. Romsdal looks like it will stay further and the horse that beat it a nose after getting the run of the race last time out Orchestra is a 16/1 chance. Western Hymn needs to improve a lot on the figs too and is 16/1 IM is 100/1 and was beaten under 2 lengths, its a big ask but think it out runs its price.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 07, 2014, 03:04:13 PM
Backed Baldings as well Bobby

Chompy mentioned it to me and fred when it won on debut

Like you say the price versus W Hymn makes no sense, either one is to short or ours is to big

Would have liked more rain but hey ho


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 07, 2014, 03:27:36 PM
Thanks to ad and horseplayer for keeping thread going.  Think lady gib has great ew shout in the next. Gl all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on June 07, 2014, 03:29:08 PM
Backed Baldings as well Bobby

Chompy mentioned it to me and fred when it won on debut

Like you say the price versus W Hymn makes no sense, either one is to short or ours is to big

Would have liked more rain but hey ho

yes that's how I saw it with both of them mate, good luck us.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on June 13, 2014, 07:06:12 PM
Off to York races tomorrow, 13 lads on a day out then watch the England game after 12 hours drinking if I'm still awake.

Anyway, if you guys fancy anything tomorrow I'd appreciate a post on here.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 13, 2014, 08:11:44 PM
Looks an awful card for a saturday at York

Enjoy the day though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on June 13, 2014, 09:12:49 PM
Looks an awful card for a saturday at York

Enjoy the day though

Thanks, always a fun day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 21, 2014, 01:23:21 PM
My parents are off to lingfield tonight, if anyone has any fancies they could pass on then they would be gratefully received.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 21, 2014, 02:20:52 PM
Anyone got any longshot fancies today? I wanna get rich!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 21, 2014, 02:26:27 PM
Anyone got any longshot fancies today? I wanna get rich!

I'm giving Rivellino one last chance in the 500pm at Ascot, but be warned it has flattered to deceive before so it will need to hit the front right on the line, although I've always thought it had a big race win in it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 21, 2014, 02:29:49 PM
Like two at Ascot Milli

5.00

DONT BOTHER ME only 12th career start came from Ireland to Botti, had three runs for Botti two on soft ground, will prefer this ground and will be staying on well good draw on paper good mark and Botti now in superb form after a rare slow start to season.


5.35

ROMEO MONTAGUE risky this nearly won this race two years ago but jockey went very early. Been injured had a nice return a few weeks ago on soft ground (no good) Never back ed dunlop usually but he had a winner yesterday which means 33's here is just backable


More keen on the first than the second.

As for Lingfield if pushed THANE OF CAWDOR in the last never been as good on turf so easy to ignore last few turf runs. Hughes booked is probably significant for this small yard.

And if they arent regulars Sparrow take a picnic or get food from a nice cafe about 800 yards away on high street. Food is awful and queues on a saturday night meeting are usually 30mins +

enjoy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 21, 2014, 02:35:21 PM
Cheers guys, they'll do me nicely. Gives me something to sweat. Missus bday on Tuesday so it's either dining out on Steak or a drive thru McDonalds. No pressure!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 21, 2014, 02:58:28 PM
Thanks Horsey! solid advice :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 21, 2014, 05:36:27 PM
Bit of ew profit with Rivellino cheers Karab.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on June 25, 2014, 09:25:03 PM
Going to newcastle races on Friday, can someone give me winners please?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
Off to chester tomorrow.  Any help finding winners appreciated . LiKe master paver in the second just a bit unsure about it on turf


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 26, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
Really like one at Chester tomorrow night just need to wait for prices to come out tonight

Will post on here when on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 12:26:55 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 26, 2014, 02:48:15 PM
You could do worse than 12-1 Asian Trader in the big sprint with Chictor Vandler.

He has an inexperienced 7lb claimer up but that wouldn't worry me over 5f here, especially on an experienced sprinter who travels well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 05:01:41 PM
Really like sweet lightning in the 8.30 but for some reason they've left the tongue strap off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 26, 2014, 05:07:01 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/2014-06-27-chester/20:30/winner

Like DR RED EYE here

Positives :

Great draw
great course form
handicap mark more than winnable
been running better than results suggest
Dont think any/many of these can lead him up


Negatives :

Not to many has seemed more and more a short runner but this is a downgrade in race class
A few who change run styles or may see not much pace on and hassle for the lead. Even if they do im confident the doctor can lead here.

the early 9/1 is not as big as i hoped so im holding fire for double figures hopefully in a few hours



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on June 26, 2014, 05:31:41 PM
Going to newcastle races on Friday, can someone give me winners please?

bump!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 05:36:10 PM
Had this one lined up aswell but was thinking the stable mate would lead and they could get easy lead as 1&2.just dont want them to cut each others throats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 05:39:01 PM
Really like sweet lightning in the 7:55 but for some reason they've left the tongue strap off.

corrected race time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 26, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
Had this one lined up aswell but was thinking the stable mate would lead and they could get easy lead as 1&2.just dont want them to cut each others throats.

Very fair point

Piceno is a speedster as well but Dr Red Eye led a listed field round here until the final furlong on similar ground about a year ago. Obv not as good now but if he breaks well hard to see anything leading him early even Piceno

9/1 is ok had a small bet nothing more


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 27, 2014, 09:48:04 AM
Missed the 10s so had a good bet each way@9.Cant see it being out of the 3.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 27, 2014, 12:19:12 PM
going Uttox races on Sunday any selections would be appreciated from the usual judges

ty in advance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 27, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Dr Red Eye is a NR. :( Will have to find something else to make me rich.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 27, 2014, 10:02:03 PM
annoying they had a downpour


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 30, 2014, 05:55:58 PM
7.45 Ffos Las    Greyemkay - C&D winner, Oisin Murphy up top, fav short priced for it's achievements to date, decent e/w terms....

Whats not to like?

btw anyone want to let me know whats happened to Big Adz?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on June 30, 2014, 07:34:16 PM
7.45 Ffos Las    Greyemkay - C&D winner, Oisin Murphy up top, fav short priced for it's achievements to date, decent e/w terms....

Whats not to like?

btw anyone want to let me know whats happened to Big Adz?

Unfortunately for Blonde and the thread Adz has decided to move on. I for one am sad that he is no longer posting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 30, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
Yes, a shame he's gone. Certainly missed on this thread, glad at least it was his decision and nothing untoward had happened to him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 30, 2014, 08:55:54 PM
he will be back next time he fancies a ruck over nothing!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 30, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
he will be back next time he fancies a ruck over nothing!


ROFL

Alanis Morissette wrote a tune for moments like this ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 09:19:58 PM
he will be back next time he fancies a ruck over nothing!


ROFL

Alanis Morissette wrote a tune for moments like this ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6kLbDHu0yc

i am confused ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2014, 09:21:23 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgpT5rEKIU

?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 30, 2014, 09:24:19 PM
I lost a few quid there. I was convinced the next video someone posted would be Ed Byrne.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 30, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
Also lol at

"Thank you disillusionment..."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 30, 2014, 09:27:27 PM
Not quite, Tighty...


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 09:28:18 PM
Not quite, Tighty...


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc




wow am i invisible?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 30, 2014, 09:30:53 PM
Oops... I missed yours because I couldn't see the video, sorry.

Seen it now, very good ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2014, 09:32:22 PM
Not quite, Tighty...


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc




i knew that :-)

and i get the sentiment!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 30, 2014, 09:32:44 PM
Not quite, Tighty...


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc




Too good Marky.  Argueboy shouldn't bite to experienced campaigners like you.  Haven't you got better stuff to be doing in the Nugget!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 30, 2014, 10:50:02 PM
Just rofling around while the footy is on ;D

Bought so many clothes last year, I didn't use half of them. This year I bring less, so obvously run out, and going to buy some new gear at the outlets after the game.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 03, 2014, 11:06:01 AM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/newbury/20:10/winner

Backed DJINNI twice this season already....

This is last chance for me today. Step up to a mile perfect, good to firm perfect Cam Hardie seven pounds off excellent showed a smidgen more last time.

Only a small bet as the front two in the market are unexposed types but 16/1  has tempted me in again.

Dr Red Eye runs again at Epsom but this looks much tougher to get a softish lead so i can let him win.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 20, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
Had a look at 4.10 Redcar as it's one of today's 4-1 + offer races on B365. Thought Headspace looked a very solid option (Love the form behind Line Of Reason  17/6/14) and at 6-1 best price (11/2 B365) worth backing ew.
Also backed Adiator @ 25-1 with SJ/BMU  (C&D form)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 20, 2014, 04:31:01 PM
Had a look at 4.10 Redcar as it's one of today's 4-1 + offer races on B365. Thought Headspace looked a very solid option (Love the form behind Line Of Reason  17/6/14) and at 6-1 best price (11/2 B365) worth backing ew.
Also backed Adiator @ 25-1 with SJ/BMU  (C&D form)


Won the race last year from same stall too. GL Simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 20, 2014, 04:36:30 PM
A Hugh Taylor Sunday special!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 20, 2014, 04:45:25 PM
Unlucky. Simon.

A Bigadz Sunday special!


;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 20, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
Unlucky. Simon.

A Bigadz Sunday special!


;)


shhhhh now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 22, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
My interest was piqued by Moonraker after he won on his only run to date and the the 2nd & 3rd went on to win next time out. The second Mubtaghaa then went on to finish 3rd in the Windsor Castle.
He is entered for the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh 10/08/2014 and the Nunthorpe. My question is: What chance does he have of getting a run in either of these as there are 50+ entries for both at present?
Only Coral have prices for the Nunthorpe at present and are offering 40-1.


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=201205#topOwnerTabs=owner_entries&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_form


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 23, 2014, 06:34:11 AM
Pabusar Lingfield 4pm, gone from 40-1 to 4-1 overnight, Last win was in 2010,Last four races hasn't been lower than 33-1, last race it was 9/10 and lost by 11 lengths. That being said in 2010 it was rated 105 yet today it's rated 60, how do they know today is the day?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 23, 2014, 03:39:52 PM
Grrrrrrrrrr, paddock watchers. So tilting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on July 23, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
I have this picture in my head of all these junkie horses shooting up morphine and nodding-off in their horse-boxes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 25, 2014, 06:14:49 PM
Really like Goldream at York 3.30 tomorrow.

Won his initial race of the year quite nicely but Cowell said horse was well short of being razor sharp, and was being targeted at the big races later in the year.

Next time out at Newmt ran ok, but ground probably not quick enough, and the outside draw at Sandown was never going to help over 5f

Seems to have optimum conditions tomorrow, and whilst Sean Leavey wouldn't be my first choice, it doesn't put me off

14s if you can with pp(offered £1.18, cheers)

12 with Sky and 5 places( was 16s when prices first out)


Oh yes. Linfoot agrees, so felt happier putting it up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 25, 2014, 08:21:37 PM
Cheers, and good luck mate!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on July 25, 2014, 09:02:54 PM
Really like Goldream at York 3.30 tomorrow.

Won his initial race of the year quite nicely but Cowell said horse was well short of being razor sharp, and was being targeted at the big races later in the year.

Next time out at Newmt ran ok, but ground probably not quick enough, and the outside draw at Sandown was never going to help over 5f

Seems to have optimum conditions tomorrow, and whilst Sean Leavey wouldn't be my first choice, it doesn't put me off

14s if you can with pp(offered £1.18, cheers)

12 with Sky and 5 places( was 16s when prices first out)


Oh yes. Linfoot agrees, so felt happier putting it up

Thoughts on Line of Reason in that race?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 25, 2014, 09:14:29 PM
Really like Goldream at York 3.30 tomorrow.

Won his initial race of the year quite nicely but Cowell said horse was well short of being razor sharp, and was being targeted at the big races later in the year.

Next time out at Newmt ran ok, but ground probably not quick enough, and the outside draw at Sandown was never going to help over 5f

Seems to have optimum conditions tomorrow, and whilst Sean Leavey wouldn't be my first choice, it doesn't put me off

14s if you can with pp(offered £1.18, cheers)

12 with Sky and 5 places( was 16s when prices first out)


Oh yes. Linfoot agrees, so felt happier putting it up

Thoughts on Line of Reason in that race?


Big improver last few races, and I wouldn't be surprised if it went in again, but its up another 4lbs  after a big 17lb hike the race before.

That said, you get these horses each year that start off a low mark and end up 50lb higher at the end of the season. He could be this years!

I just think this is probably the strongest race of the lot he has contested recently though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on July 25, 2014, 10:10:14 PM
Really like Goldream at York 3.30 tomorrow.

Won his initial race of the year quite nicely but Cowell said horse was well short of being razor sharp, and was being targeted at the big races later in the year.

Next time out at Newmt ran ok, but ground probably not quick enough, and the outside draw at Sandown was never going to help over 5f

Seems to have optimum conditions tomorrow, and whilst Sean Leavey wouldn't be my first choice, it doesn't put me off

14s if you can with pp(offered £1.18, cheers)

12 with Sky and 5 places( was 16s when prices first out)


Oh yes. Linfoot agrees, so felt happier putting it up

Thoughts on Line of Reason in that race?


Big improver last few races, and I wouldn't be surprised if it went in again, but its up another 4lbs  after a big 17lb hike the race before.

That said, you get these horses each year that start off a low mark and end up 50lb higher at the end of the season. He could be this years!

I just think this is probably the strongest race of the lot he has contested recently though.

Ok. Thanks, squire.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 26, 2014, 10:09:50 AM
gd lk adz

One big race for me today, the ladies race :)

Born To Surprise mentioned on here before looks to have been primed for this, won again three starts back since been over wrong trip twice. Has Ascot form rider has won this two of last three seasons enough to like at 16's

Also backed Lord of The Dance, whizzed in this last year one of easiest winners of the season. Been out of form but mainly on soft ground and handicap mark to high after winning 5 handicaps last season. Risky but below last winning mark and ground and track are obviously fine.

In the impossible handicap giving Dont Bother Me another chance for Botti. Backed it last time ran on fine and is definitely back in form. Botti in much better nick now, drawn low not ideal but better than being stranded in the middle.

Gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 10:33:52 AM
gd lk adz

One big race for me today, the ladies race :)

Born To Surprise mentioned on here before looks to have been primed for this, won again three starts back since been over wrong trip twice. Has Ascot form rider has won this two of last three seasons enough to like at 16's

Also backed Lord of The Dance, whizzed in this last year one of easiest winners of the season. Been out of form but mainly on soft ground and handicap mark to high after winning 5 handicaps last season. Risky but below last winning mark and ground and track are obviously fine.

In the impossible handicap giving Dont Bother Me another chance for Botti. Backed it last time ran on fine and is definitely back in form. Botti in much better nick now, drawn low not ideal but better than being stranded in the middle.

Gd lk all


Good luck u n all.


I love this Ladies races.

Used to be a happy race for Carol Williams, now hiding away as C Bartley on the Keraka Jack, who has also been running over the wrong trip last few races and is well handicapped for a now in form Dandy.

Also Haddaj flew home last time and has the queen of the ladies races Serena Brotherton on. Not won over 7f, but  most interestingly has some good back form with Bronze Angel over a mile.

A proper toughie, but I shall stick with the proven ladies. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 26, 2014, 11:15:10 AM
I have been hughed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 26, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
beaten by a m j horse with Brighton form

arghhhhh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 26, 2014, 03:46:27 PM
beaten by a m j horse with Brighton form

arghhhhh

I was gonna leave that one out as you didn't seem to hot on it, then I thought again! Unlucky and thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 26, 2014, 04:00:29 PM
Thanks Adz, had the forecast in that, helped by your fair hand, more money in the pocket, I'm glad your back posting, it's where all long term winners belong!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 26, 2014, 04:07:04 PM
We bumped into one there mate... Great shout, and unlucky not to get weighed in fully!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 04:27:39 PM
Yup. Looked to be a decent Group horse in the making that winner. Clear second best though and so still made a bit. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 26, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
ffs, another 10 yards in that and another 50 in the impossible handicap and i get the win double up

oh well



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 04:55:51 PM
Ul horsey.

4 bullets between us thought might have the winner out of that lot!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 05:49:14 PM
Going for a decent bet tomorrow.

You may recall we just missed out on a decent ew bet on Barnet Fair last time out

I mentioned it maybe a tee up for a race at Ascot later in the month that he has won for the last two years. Well tomorrow is the day.

Currently best priced at 9-1 with Billy. Do able ew at that price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 27, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
Busted into 9/2.

Fingers crossed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 27, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
Where else these days but 2nd...... ;popcorn;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 27, 2014, 06:04:51 PM
how many 2nds for us this weekend?

even worse beaten by Racy the complete non winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 27, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
Just seen the name of a trainer pop up when i was checking the racing results J L EYRE  was his name is this the same Les Eyre that trained here before moving off to Spain? 

I remember him fondly from backing horses like Jambo (I'm sure it was) many moons ago back at Mussy.  I think I was about 15/16  at the time and had 3 legs up on a lucky 15 and Jambo hoses in for the 4th @ 25/1.  Also had a big single on for me back then (£5e/w)  I think I scooped something like £3k for the lucky 15.  Should have packed in gambling back then.   Obvs not being old enough had to make sure my old fella got a decnt bung off it as well. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 28, 2014, 07:31:37 AM
Where else these days but 2nd...... ;popcorn;

Thats OK.

Only had a small interest, but I got 9/1, & it went off at 9/2 I think.

Thanks, good work.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 28, 2014, 08:41:01 AM
Just seen the name of a trainer pop up when i was checking the racing results J L EYRE  was his name is this the same Les Eyre that trained here before moving off to Spain? 

I remember him fondly from backing horses like Jambo (I'm sure it was) many moons ago back at Mussy.  I think I was about 15/16  at the time and had 3 legs up on a lucky 15 and Jambo hoses in for the 4th @ 25/1.  Also had a big single on for me back then (£5e/w)  I think I scooped something like £3k for the lucky 15.  Should have packed in gambling back then.   Obvs not being old enough had to make sure my old fella got a decnt bung off it as well. 

Yep same one

Started back very well with some big prices as well, worth keeping an eye on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: cheapwetsuit on July 28, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
Just seen the name of a trainer pop up when i was checking the racing results J L EYRE  was his name is this the same Les Eyre that trained here before moving off to Spain? 

I remember him fondly from backing horses like Jambo (I'm sure it was) many moons ago back at Mussy.  I think I was about 15/16  at the time and had 3 legs up on a lucky 15 and Jambo hoses in for the 4th @ 25/1.  Also had a big single on for me back then (£5e/w)  I think I scooped something like £3k for the lucky 15.  Should have packed in gambling back then.   Obvs not being old enough had to make sure my old fella got a decnt bung off it as well. 

Yep same one

Started back very well with some big prices as well, worth keeping an eye on.

Pfffffft...
http://www.slang.com.au/o/old-fella/ (http://www.slang.com.au/o/old-fella/)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 12:12:45 PM
Over in the big handicap at Galway tonite John Quinn has sent Swynmor over to race under topweight.

Earlier in the season this horse had his first race for Quinn and dotted up, and it went into my notebook as yet another potential Ebor horse.

Not run since, and put up a chunk in the ratings, but seems an odd place to go when his only other future entry is The Ebor.

Its an amateur race but Codd is a decent enough jock, but at 16-1 he could still be ahead of the handicapper.

All things considered i shall have a small ew bet @16s. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
Afternoon

Quite keen on Blue Surf in the first at Goodwood tomorrow 1.55.

Was joint fav for the race last year and ran ok, but never really in the hunt. He has run some nice races this year without looking too dangerous and i suspect this has been his target all year, as tomorrow they bring out the first time cheekpieces. It seems ok on all sorts of ground

Has some reasonable back form at Goodwood and as its the Harwood local course, they will be doubly keen to get a winner.

Compared to the 13/2 it went off last year, I'm very happy with the 20-1 its priced up at right now. If it is fancied it could be quite well backed from that price. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 28, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
Good stuff, and gl us.

Goodwood, lets 'ave ya!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 28, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
Cheers Adz, sky 5 places and BOG = Profit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on July 28, 2014, 07:30:36 PM
Cheers Adz, sky 5 places and BOG = Profit.

was just about to post this, adz if you want any with me through sky (or any other regular tipsters) drop me a message

<< Confirmed still got a mug account


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 07:39:17 PM
Over in the big handicap at Galway tonite John Quinn has sent Swynmor over to race under topweight.

Earlier in the season this horse had his first race for Quinn and dotted up, and it went into my notebook as yet another potential Ebor horse.

Not run since, and put up a chunk in the ratings, but seems an odd place to go when his only other future entry is The Ebor.

Its an amateur race but Codd is a decent enough jock, but at 16-1 he could still be ahead of the handicapper.

All things considered i shall have a small ew bet @16s. GL


Glad to be of service. Sadly Mr Codd gave him a bit much to do but the way he powered up the straight after the extreme left turn at the final bend suggests he has another decent pot in him.

Hoping to actually nail one of these this week. Too many pocket money profits. Need a grown up contribution!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:19 PM
Over in the big handicap at Galway tonite John Quinn has sent Swynmor over to race under topweight.

Earlier in the season this horse had his first race for Quinn and dotted up, and it went into my notebook as yet another potential Ebor horse.

Not run since, and put up a chunk in the ratings, but seems an odd place to go when his only other future entry is The Ebor.

Its an amateur race but Codd is a decent enough jock, but at 16-1 he could still be ahead of the handicapper.

All things considered i shall have a small ew bet @16s. GL


Glad to be of service. Sadly Mr Codd gave him a bit much to do but the way he powered up the straight after the extreme left turn at the final bend suggests he has another decent pot in him.

Hoping to actually nail one of these this week. Too many pocket money profits. Need a grown up contribution!

Maybe Barnet Fair will give you a lump tomorrow ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
Cheers Adz, sky 5 places and BOG = Profit.

was just about to post this, adz if you want any with me through sky (or any other regular tipsters) drop me a message

<< Confirmed still got a mug account


Cheers mate. Nice gesture.

Had half on with these but rest elsewhere, so a touch painful, but glad you had a tickle on QJ.  ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
Over in the big handicap at Galway tonite John Quinn has sent Swynmor over to race under topweight.

Earlier in the season this horse had his first race for Quinn and dotted up, and it went into my notebook as yet another potential Ebor horse.

Not run since, and put up a chunk in the ratings, but seems an odd place to go when his only other future entry is The Ebor.

Its an amateur race but Codd is a decent enough jock, but at 16-1 he could still be ahead of the handicapper.

All things considered i shall have a small ew bet @16s. GL


Glad to be of service. Sadly Mr Codd gave him a bit much to do but the way he powered up the straight after the extreme left turn at the final bend suggests he has another decent pot in him.

Hoping to actually nail one of these this week. Too many pocket money profits. Need a grown up contribution!

Maybe Barnet Fair will give you a lump tomorrow ;)



Haha.

Dont forget the 5 place firms!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 29, 2014, 12:54:00 PM
Gonna chuck a few big pricers about for some small beer fun.

3.05  Anjaal. 25s.... 3 year old have a good record in this race, and as the other one is almost evens, and Anjaal did me a good turn at the July meet last year...

4.50 Skytrain.14s... Just felt this one has been run to get a decent mark having had about 50 runs already this year. Would be typical Johnstone MO.

5.20 With Barnet out I see one of Dandys other entries is Fitz flyer, 14s.... who has been quietly fancied a bit recently, Got Fanning on, who, bar an AW bomb has a nice record on him. Well in on past form and run ok at GW over 5 both previous times.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 29, 2014, 02:10:25 PM

Having a go with Ajman Bridge 5 places in the 1.55 and Secret Art in the 4.50


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 29, 2014, 03:33:44 PM
Afternoon

Quite keen on Blue Surf in the first at Goodwood tomorrow 1.55.

Was joint fav for the race last year and ran ok, but never really in the hunt. He has run some nice races this year without looking too dangerous and i suspect this has been his target all year, as tomorrow they bring out the first time cheekpieces. It seems ok on all sorts of ground

Has some reasonable back form at Goodwood and as its the Harwood local course, they will be doubly keen to get a winner.

Compared to the 13/2 it went off last year, I'm very happy with the 20-1 its priced up at right now. If it is fancied it could be quite well backed from that price. GL


Dont think the term "running good" will be seen anywhere in this thread. Pays 5 places. Naturally finish 6th. In Lennox Stakes, back Anjaal ew at 25s and finishes third, after 3 get taken out, beaten about half a length tops. Marv,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 09:44:17 AM
Gooder looks to difficult today and I shall have only one bet, but it  will be max ew on Ray Ward in the first.

Kieron gave it a modest(at best)ride at RA and got caught up when travelling well, went from being in a good position to 25 lengths behind with 2f left. Finished 9 lengths behind and easing up.

I noted on TFT yesterday, i was worried about the 3 yr old fav over the max distance, so money where mouth is, and hope Crowley does a better job than Fallon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
Goodwood.

Lets see if I am learning from the BE stuff.    I picked my selections earlier, I hoped I was thinking through the races like Neil.  If not then I'm still not getting it and I'm probably going to swerve picking my own stuff at all on horses on future as barring some miracles it just seems like a slow way of losing money steadily to me. 

Race 1 - Lion Beacon, Lieutanent Miller (2nd last year) and Ray Ward (would be my 3 against the fav) I took Adz comments on  oard about the fav. (All e/w)

Race 2 - Cloudscape and Observational small win bets.

Race 3 - Only fool would be against Kingman - stepfoward me.  Outstrip very small win only.

Race 4 - Probably going to wait to nearer race time and make sure we have the 8 and back Tupi quite biggish e/w.

Race 5 -  Innaguration, Royal Razalma and Touchline (all e/w)

Race 6 - Looks difficult if forced into a bet I'd be betting Patterned small e/w. 

Race 7 - George Rooke, Liberty Jack and an absolute flyer on Valais Girl. (again all e/w bigger on the first 2 and the last one would be smallish) 

I think were I need help is staking properly. Out of  the selections my nap would probably be Lieutanent Miller and NB Tupi. 

Thoughts on these?  To see if I am understanding things should I be given my reasoning behind each selection or for purpose of this fred is it ok just to stick selections up? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on July 30, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
All this lovely weather and fine racing at Goodwood making me feel like a trip to Leicester evening meeting today.

Any thoughts or fancies please.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 01:42:45 PM
Just had a good look, and I really couldn't even hint at something I fancy.

Sorry. GL and have fun.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on July 30, 2014, 01:46:22 PM
Just had a good look, and I really couldn't even hint at something I fancy.

Sorry. GL and have fun.

Thanks and good to see you giving your thoughts again.

Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 01:56:35 PM
As a general rule of thumb i tend to back the draw more at Leicester than the horses themselves.  My opinion fwiw is horses coming down the middle/far side seem to perform better.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 30, 2014, 02:12:09 PM

Think I'll have a bit on Ballinderry Boy in the first Betfair win/place.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 30, 2014, 02:17:00 PM

think I'll place lay the fav in the first - MJ already making excuses lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 02:29:30 PM
Fook me.

More seconds than TK Max.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 30, 2014, 02:33:03 PM
Whats worse is most of ours the last week have been beaten by unfathomable types

Fair play to Ian Williams though only had that two years and won on debut for him at Wolverhampton of about 50!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 02:36:59 PM
Whats worse is most of ours the last week have been beaten by unfathomable types

Fair play to Ian Williams though only had that two years and won on debut for him at Wolverhampton of about 50!



Annoying thing is if i was a 3/4 man per race Teak/Racy etc would have been backed as savers. Ho hum.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 30, 2014, 02:37:45 PM
Amazing that Teak won that race, because SdS was battering him with a fair way to go!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 30, 2014, 02:38:49 PM
Whats worse is most of ours the last week have been beaten by unfathomable types

Fair play to Ian Williams though only had that two years and won on debut for him at Wolverhampton of about 50!



Annoying thing is if i was a 3/4 man per race Teak/Racy etc would have been backed as savers. Ho hum.

Ha, I've backed that Racy a few times, and Es Que Love, too.

Best steer clear of them until about 2016 I guess :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 30, 2014, 02:39:44 PM
Amazing that Teak won that race, because SdS was battering him with a fair way to go!



SDS has an awful goodwood record

or at least did :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
Cant believe the only commentator in the world that cant pronounce Koh Samui correctly has got the third race in a row he has run in.

Really annoying every time he says it!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 03:55:43 PM
Cant believe the only commentator in the world that cant pronounce Koh Samui correctly has got the third race in a row he has run in.

Really annoying every time he says it!!!!

Think this should me in the moaners thread.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 30, 2014, 10:52:04 PM
My interest was piqued by Moonraker after he won on his only run to date and the the 2nd & 3rd went on to win next time out. The second Mubtaghaa then went on to finish 3rd in the Windsor Castle.
He is entered for the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh 10/08/2014 and the Nunthorpe. My question is: What chance does he have of getting a run in either of these as there are 50+ entries for both at present?
Only Coral have prices for the Nunthorpe at present and are offering 40-1.


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=201205#topOwnerTabs=owner_entries&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_form
I have the feeling (probably misguided) that he maybe something special and is currently 12/1 for the 2.35 Goodwood tomorrow in a race that should be ok for ew so long as 8 go. I've had a small bet this evening and will be tempted to go in again tomorrow if the 12`s and number of runners hold up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 11:34:02 PM
Needless to say the only other bet I had today, which I mentioned to Tighty earlier, was Lulu the Zulu.

Hey, Guess where he finished.

More TK Max tomorrow folks....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 31, 2014, 12:53:02 AM
Goodwood.

Lets see if I am learning from the BE stuff.    I picked my selections earlier, I hoped I was thinking through the races like Neil.  If not then I'm still not getting it and I'm probably going to swerve picking my own stuff at all on horses on future as barring some miracles it just seems like a slow way of losing money steadily to me. 

Race 1 - Lion Beacon, Lieutanent Miller (2nd last year) and Ray Ward (would be my 3 against the fav) I took Adz comments on  oard about the fav. (All e/w)

Race 2 - Cloudscape and Observational small win bets.

Race 3 - Only fool would be against Kingman - stepfoward me.  Outstrip very small win only.

Race 4 - Probably going to wait to nearer race time and make sure we have the 8 and back Tupi quite biggish e/w.

Race 5 -  Innaguration, Royal Razalma and Touchline (all e/w)

Race 6 - Looks difficult if forced into a bet I'd be betting Patterned small e/w. 

Race 7 - George Rooke, Liberty Jack and an absolute flyer on Valais Girl. (again all e/w bigger on the first 2 and the last one would be smallish) 

I think were I need help is staking properly. Out of  the selections my nap would probably be Lieutanent Miller and NB Tupi. 

Thoughts on these?  To see if I am understanding things should I be given my reasoning behind each selection or for purpose of this fred is it ok just to stick selections up? 

Only bet the two Neil put up in Race 1 small loss there.  Race 2 I backed both Neils selections small loss, I had picked one out.  Race 3 I actually backed Kingsman in the end up, silly really but they all count.  Race 4 big win for me as I had a chunk on my selection and Neil stuck up the 3rd at 40/1 so I also had that.   Race 5 I backed the winner one of my picks also took Neils in this which was 2nd I bet it e/w. Race 6, read between the lines on BE and got matched on the winner at 40/1 on betfair.   Race 7 was just bleurgh.   All in all for me was a very good day, think winning day for BE as well.  But thanks to backing Tupi, Royal Razalma off my own back I made back what I lost yesterday.  All in all a good day.  I through a few darts at some other races at Leicester and Galway with mixed success, think though I need to sort out staking and just be more selective. 

Roll on day 3 tomorrow, it looks really tough to me. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 31, 2014, 09:08:44 AM
If it looks tough to you, God help the rest of us...   Congrats on results yesterday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 31, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
My interest was piqued by Moonraker after he won on his only run to date and the the 2nd & 3rd went on to win next time out. The second Mubtaghaa then went on to finish 3rd in the Windsor Castle.
He is entered for the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh 10/08/2014 and the Nunthorpe. My question is: What chance does he have of getting a run in either of these as there are 50+ entries for both at present?
Only Coral have prices for the Nunthorpe at present and are offering 40-1.


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=201205#topOwnerTabs=owner_entries&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_form
I have the feeling (probably misguided) that he maybe something special and is currently 12/1 for the 2.35 Goodwood tomorrow in a race that should be ok for ew so long as 8 go. I've had a small bet this evening and will be tempted to go in again tomorrow if the 12`s and number of runners hold up.



Normally, I am happy to put a line through Channon horses unless they have proved exceptional. I mentioned the other day, there are certain trainers, I let their horses run for the amount of winners they produce.

I can't back the fav, despite how impressed I was in his last win. Price too short.

I recall watching the race during a deluge and the fav only went away in the final few strides, so am happy to play Jungle Cat ew to take revenge on quicker ground, but your enthusiasm is infectious for Moonraker, so I will chuck a second ew bet on yours too. GL Simon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 31, 2014, 09:27:44 AM
My interest was piqued by Moonraker after he won on his only run to date and the the 2nd & 3rd went on to win next time out. The second Mubtaghaa then went on to finish 3rd in the Windsor Castle.
He is entered for the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh 10/08/2014 and the Nunthorpe. My question is: What chance does he have of getting a run in either of these as there are 50+ entries for both at present?
Only Coral have prices for the Nunthorpe at present and are offering 40-1.


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=201205#topOwnerTabs=owner_entries&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_form

I was rather tempted by that, so had a small interest, thank you. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 31, 2014, 10:04:55 AM
Cant believe the only commentator in the world that cant pronounce Koh Samui correctly has got the third race in a row he has run in.

Really annoying every time he says it!!!!

What about the unbelievably lazy Dessie Scahill's pronunciation of 'Brooch'? Pretty sure it's not pronounced the same as Gooch.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 31, 2014, 01:08:41 PM

Madeed, Nymphea, Secret Hint and Jodies Jem Lucky 15 for me today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 31, 2014, 03:23:06 PM
This is aftertiming of a sort, but not because I never got the e/w money on Louie.  I left it up on betfair this morning planning to back it but had to go out wallpaper shopping this morning and was late getting back.   I have been trying to go through the races and put what Neil has been writing to good use.  What price would I have got on the outcome of this post I made  elsewhere?

Race 2 - Alhan Emarati is likely to be a non runner so we are down to 8 and with a short price fav can see him sticking up more big outsiders. Fav should win but Louie De Palma and Jungle Cat could be the ones to finish in the place money. Louie especially at around 25/1.

I manaaged to get matched on Junglecat to place.  I had smallish win on Louie but my bigger placebet never got matched. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 31, 2014, 10:15:20 PM
Gonna have a little dabble on Fort Bastion ew 20-1 in the 3.40

Ran a decent race behind Heavy Metal last time and has a few pound pull for a few lengths etc. James Sullivan back on board, and looked like being back over a mile should help based on the way he finished last week, also going across the track and losing a fair amount of ground.

Previously won over a mile off 106, so plenty in hand. Decent draw tomorrow and acts on most ground.

Had a saver earlier on old friend Red Avenger, but the 20s long gone now sadly. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on July 31, 2014, 10:42:46 PM
Gonna have a little dabble on Fort Bastion ew 20-1 in the 3.40

Ran a decent race behind Heavy Metal last time and has a few pound pull for a few lengths etc. James Sullivan back on board, and looked like being back over a mile should help based on the way he finished last week, also going across the track and losing a fair amount of ground.

Previously won over a mile off 106, so plenty in hand. Decent draw tomorrow and acts on most ground.

Had a saver earlier on old friend Red Avenger, but the 20s long gone now sadly. GL

Cheers Adz...(.3.05  not 3.40 )


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 01, 2014, 12:23:11 AM
I had another pretty decent day today.  I find myself in between a rock and a hard place as I have bought the BE package but I also like to back my own stuff.  and  do a right up of my selections before for talking over with mates.  So as not to make it all sound like aftertiming I'll stick my bets for tomorrow up, these are my first picks I will then have a look at the betting in the morning and read through Neil's choices before making final selections. 

Race 1 - Quest for Peace - small win. Looked better at 7/1 but has gone.

Race 2 - Want to be yours/Rapprochment both e/w (preference for first named)

Race 3 - Bronze Angel/Our Channel (both e/w preference for the first named price seems to have gone now on second named.

Race 4 - Take Cover/Demora/Hay Chewed (all e/w in preference as named)

Race 5 - Markaz e/w

Race 6 - Muteela (NAP) If pushed for an e/w Manderlay

Race 7 - Festival Thearter/Cape Caster both win only.

Certainly welcome any comments on my selections. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 01, 2014, 09:35:08 AM
selections with prices would help. Something you would back at 10/1 would probably not be a back at 5/1 for example.

Cheers for the write up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
I had another pretty decent day today.  I find myself in between a rock and a hard place as I have bought the BE package but I also like to back my own stuff.  and  do a right up of my selections before for talking over with mates.  So as not to make it all sound like aftertiming I'll stick my bets for tomorrow up, these are my first picks I will then have a look at the betting in the morning and read through Neil's choices before making final selections. 

Race 1 - Quest for Peace - small win. Looked better at 7/1 but has gone.

Race 2 - Want to be yours/Rapprochment both e/w (preference for first named)

Race 3 - Bronze Angel/Our Channel (both e/w preference for the first named price seems to have gone now on second named.

Race 4 - Take Cover/Demora/Hay Chewed (all e/w in preference as named)

Race 5 - Markaz e/w

Race 6 - Muteela (NAP) If pushed for an e/w Manderlay

Race 7 - Festival Thearter/Cape Caster both win only.

Certainly welcome any comments on my selections. 

Well done Kmac, great to see someone learning the game and not afraid to show it, would be great to see your thought process for the selections ( I'm presuming you do something to narrow them down) refreshing aspect to the thread if you can keep it up. No doubt we can all learn abit along with you as well. Great Stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 01, 2014, 10:55:19 AM

George Guru in the 3.05 and Indignant in the 4.50  EW double and singles.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 01, 2014, 12:19:23 PM
I had another pretty decent day today.  I find myself in between a rock and a hard place as I have bought the BE package but I also like to back my own stuff.  and  do a right up of my selections before for talking over with mates.  So as not to make it all sound like aftertiming I'll stick my bets for tomorrow up, these are my first picks I will then have a look at the betting in the morning and read through Neil's choices before making final selections. 

Race 1 - Quest for Peace - small win. Looked better at 7/1 but has gone.

Race 2 - Want to be yours/Rapprochment both e/w (preference for first named)

Race 3 - Bronze Angel/Our Channel (both e/w preference for the first named price seems to have gone now on second named.

Race 4 - Take Cover/Demora/Hay Chewed (all e/w in preference as named)

Race 5 - Markaz e/w

Race 6 - Muteela (NAP) If pushed for an e/w Manderlay

Race 7 - Festival Thearter/Cape Caster both win only.

Certainly welcome any comments on my selections. 

Well done Kmac, great to see someone learning the game and not afraid to show it, would be great to see your thought process for the selections ( I'm presuming you do something to narrow them down) refreshing aspect to the thread if you can keep it up. No doubt we can all learn abit along with you as well. Great Stuff.

Sure thing, the thing I think I have picked up most from Neils writings on here and on the subscribed service is its not always about finding the winner of the race because sometimes we get better value in the place with something that is pretty solid that also has a high% chance of winning.    I have also found myself ignoring the market to start with, previously I'd have looked at the market and already drawn pretty strong conclusions before actually thinking about the race as a whole.  Also think its an important factor to translate form from other courses to the course that we are backing.  Before I'd maybe do this with Brighton but having read on here from guys like RedArmi that there are similar courses were particular horses do better at similar type courses I have tried to bear that in mind. 

Onto the selections then, for Race 1 I just thought the fav was short enough and wasn't cnvinced that the price we were getting represented any significant value.  We all know Godolphin can ready one but I think its a huge ask to have Enke anywhere near his best after nearly 2 years off.  I thought Battle of Marengo woluldn't be too keen on the ground.  Cafe Society is back up in trip after finishing well at Ascot previously over 10f, and although a progressive type I wasn't sure it was upto the class of winning a race of this type.  That left me with Songcraft, Aussie Reigns and Quest for Peace.  Aussie Reigns looks like a fun horse that the connections will get good value from in decent handicaps not sure its upto winning a group 3.  We know Songcraft gos well fresh but it doesn't have any course and distance form which Quest for Peace has a previous winner of this race.  I was really between the 2, but in the end decided as the prices were pretty similar that the C&D win, return from down under and the fact Cumani was unlikely to fire this into a group 3 without thinking t had much of a chance convinced me to have a smallish bet on that, I also really like Andrea Atzeni, he has a touch of class and for my money he has a built in clock that sees him run fractions well and again we know the horse likes to fron run and there aren't many coming from off the pace this week.  Horse has also won over a slightly longer trip so I don't see it tiring if its close to full fitness.

In race 2 - I was really looking for something to be against the fav with again I just thought it was short enough and although clearly a high class animal I thought I'd try and get one that would improve for previous runs.  There wasn't great e/w value to be had but prior to the non runners I thought my 2 were reasonably priced and worth a few pounds with the revised terms I am thinking of changing course and just backing Raprochment win only.  This horse really could be anything it destroyed not too bad a field on its only start and has been drastically upped in class, my instincts tell me the stable like this one. 

Race 3 - bit of a minefield I initially thought Bronze Angel ran a reasonable race on Saturday but never really got the run of the race and I think the ground was against him somewhat, for my money this is a horse that prefers good fast ground.  The draw looks  bad at first but as a hold up performer it might allow Martin Dwyer an opportunity to ease him into the race.  I considered Fort Bastion as Neil stuck that up on Saturday but again the clerk of the course kind of scuppered his plans by watering.  I was really keen on Our Chanel last night when I saw the price was 25/1 I deposited funds to back this on a new site I don't have an account with only for the price to no longer be available.  Our Chanle has been tried at a decent level and I think it will go on improving and Haggas has his horses in great nick at the mo.   There were doubts over quite a few of these and it really is a tough handicap to crack.  I think with the 2 non runners this morning andpotential for a few more to come out I will wait to nearer race time before actually betting.  I was looking forward to seeing what Neil selected in this race as he seems to have an angle in these big handicaps. 

Race 4 - I think there is definitely a draw bias over the sprint trips this week and nothing drawn outside of box 5 has won any of the sprints.  So I was looking for horses that were drawn low and that would be up with the pace.  When i looked at the race last night Sky were paying 4 places at 1/5 the odds and the prices weren't massively out from the other books that were going 1/5 for first 3 and the few that were going 1/4 for the first 3. 

Race 5 -  Is the sort of race that makes me want to scratch my own eyes out. A nursery is basically a handicap for 2 year olds. Some of these have solid form to go on some don't and could be either really good or really bad. Right now I don't feel like this is a race I want to bet, but if the price was right and the terms were good I'd be on Markaz looked decent when winning at Ascot, cost loads of monet £200,000 and comes from a stable we know like to win here. Infact I am doing a good job of talking myself into that. (this is what I wrote last night, and I ended up backing it at 9/1) 

Race 6 - I really couldn't see past the front 2 in the betting and the fav just looks good to me can do it from out in front, its from a stable that love winners here and has been banging them in all week it looked really impressive when winning at Ascot.  I just couldn't find a negative. 

Race 7 - The closing race of the day is another tough handicap on paper but the e/w terms arent great so I'd probably side with 2 lively ones win only. The two I like are Festival Thearte and Cape Caster.  Festival Theartre hasn't progressed as expected this year but its been given a few months off the course and it might just be the time of year we get to see the best of it and Cape Caster is from a stable/jockey combo I really like to be onside with. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 01, 2014, 03:37:37 PM
Gonna have a little dabble on Fort Bastion ew 20-1 in the 3.40

Ran a decent race behind Heavy Metal last time and has a few pound pull for a few lengths etc. James Sullivan back on board, and looked like being back over a mile should help based on the way he finished last week, also going across the track and losing a fair amount of ground.

Previously won over a mile off 106, so plenty in hand. Decent draw tomorrow and acts on most ground.

Had a saver earlier on old friend Red Avenger, but the 20s long gone now sadly. GL

Easy game if you have more than 1. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 01, 2014, 03:38:50 PM

Well done Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2014, 04:19:16 PM

Well done Adz!

Completely missed this, but good shout


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2014, 06:06:04 PM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 01, 2014, 06:14:43 PM
Another decent day all round. 

I managed 2 wins of my own and I had Neils in the last with one of mine.  In the first race I actually swerved my pick and ended up backing one of Neils place only once the money started to come for the jolly. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 01, 2014, 09:19:10 PM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt


Have had a couple of bob on yours, but watching reruns of last year I have added Ninjago to Muthmir that I backed earlier in the week. He came from miles back and has run a couple of interesting trials for this. Muthmir just looked too big earlier in the week at 9s to go unbacked. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2014, 09:25:19 PM
Another decent day all round. 

I managed 2 wins of my own and I had Neils in the last with one of mine.  In the first race I actually swerved my pick and ended up backing one of Neils place only once the money started to come for the jolly. 

Haven't got to watch any of the racing today, was you pleased with your write up and opinion compared to how the racing actually went, anything your gonna change for tomorrow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2014, 09:26:35 PM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt


Have had a couple of bob on yours, but watching reruns of last year I have added Ninjago to Muthmir that I backed earlier in the week. He came from miles back and has run a couple of interesting trials for this. Muthmir just looked too big earlier in the week at 9s to go unbacked. GL

Barnet Fair running tmrw Adz, you put him up earlier in the week, any good tmrw?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2014, 09:36:55 PM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt


Have had a couple of bob on yours, but watching reruns of last year I have added Ninjago to Muthmir that I backed earlier in the week. He came from miles back and has run a couple of interesting trials for this. Muthmir just looked too big earlier in the week at 9s to go unbacked. GL

Barnet Fair running tmrw Adz, you put him up earlier in the week, any good tmrw?

Haha, we've both got anti-tilt money on him :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 01, 2014, 09:52:30 PM
I didn't think he was overly effective over 6f but he has won over it.

He was actually in the Stewards last year and ran ok only beaten 5 lengths. If it stays firm I think 14s is fair value especially with 5 places. This field is far weaker than last years SC and he is certainly in form, a big plus. It could also be argued he has been finishing his races like he needs a bit further now.

I think I'm trying to convince myself to get stuck in ;0)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2014, 10:37:46 PM
I didn't think he was overly effective over 6f but he has won over it.

He was actually in the Stewards last year and ran ok only beaten 5 lengths. If it stays firm I think 14s is fair value especially with 5 places. This field is far weaker than last years SC and he is certainly in form, a big plus. It could also be argued he has been finishing his races like he needs a bit further now.

I think I'm trying to convince myself to get stuck in ;0)

It's one of those that u tip up and it wins later in the week, can't have nothing on it at 14's I'd be gutted if it won and didn't have a bean. Gl.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 02, 2014, 12:20:59 AM
Race 1: Pandar, Extrasolar, Slip Sliding Away, Barnet Fair and Secondo. Make my list, I could probably fire in 2 or 3 more to be honest. I'm probably playing this small as want to see what the draw effect is tomorrow.

Race 2 - With Satelite coming out we're down to 16 runners, fav looks solid but plenty short enough, would take a punt with Oasis Fantasy and Second Step.

Race 3 - Amazing Maria

Race 4 - Going to leave this to after race 1 as will have a much better feel for the draw but Muthmir was very impressive last week. Boomerng Bob also looks backable e/w. Probably 5 in this. Could easily back front 10 e/w in market and it woldn't be far off being right.

Race 5 - Fav looks solid but far too short for me to bet so I'd be looking for some e/w value the 3 that stand out are Dutch Connection, Dance of Fire, and Secret Brief. Ideally we'd want one or 2 non runners to make it more favourable.

Race 6 - Fav looks solid again, definitely best horse but Sakkis could be the danger.

Race 7 - Desert Ace and Angel Flores look pretty solid e/w bets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 02, 2014, 10:03:05 AM

Official lol sample size guide to todays Goodwood sprints

I have looked at the past nine runnings of the stewards cup and consolation race (18 races 454 runners) to see if there any trends that can reduce the field size

1) No wedding tackle required.  All 18 races have been won by geldings 360 geldings have run with 5% winning and 17.2% being places

2) Weight.  There is a trend to the higher weights.  Horses carrying 9-4 or more have won 5.5% of the time and been placed 18.6% of the time

3) Class change.  Horses who ran previously in a Class 2 race have won 4.7% of the time and been placed 17.9% of the time 

4) Draw range. 7.3% of winners and 19.3% of placed horses have been drawn in the middle section

5) Last 3 races.  Horses who have won or placed in all their last 3 races have won 9.1% and been placed 36.4%.  Two good runs from the last 3 have won 7% and placed 15.5%.  The form of the last race seems irrelevant.

2.05

Tatliisu has 5/5

Also like Mission Approved and Shore Step because of the very strong 3 good runs from last 3 stat

3.50

Sir Maximillian has 5/5

Also like Shropshire has run well fresh





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 10:09:42 AM
Blimey, things getting a bit professional in here. I may have to start a new thread for just mugs that are lucky guessers!

Nice work lads.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 10:33:24 AM

Official lol sample size guide to todays Goodwood sprints

I have looked at the past nine runnings of the stewards cup and consolation race (18 races 454 runners) to see if there any trends that can reduce the field size

1) No wedding tackle required.  All 18 races have been won by geldings 360 geldings have run with 5% winning and 17.2% being places

2) Weight.  There is a trend to the higher weights.  Horses carrying 9-4 or more have won 5.5% of the time and been placed 18.6% of the time

3) Class change.  Horses who ran previously in a Class 2 race have won 4.7% of the time and been placed 17.9% of the time 

4) Draw range. 7.3% of winners and 19.3% of placed horses have been drawn in the middle section

5) Last 3 races.  Horses who have won or placed in all their last 3 races have won 9.1% and been placed 36.4%.  Two good runs from the last 3 have won 7% and placed 15.5%.  The form of the last race seems irrelevant.

2.05

Tatliisu has 5/5

Also like Mission Approved and Shore Step because of the very strong 3 good runs from last 3 stat

3.50

Sir Maximillian has 5/5

Also like Shropshire has run well fresh





nice post double


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 02, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
Blimey, things getting a bit professional in here. I may have to start a new thread for just mugs that are lucky guessers!

Nice work lads.

Yeah I'm in this camp. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 10:54:38 AM
Ok. For anyone with any money left at 5.45 you may wish to have a decent ew bet on Wahaab currently 10-1. It wont be by then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 02:29:45 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 02:40:16 PM
Nice one Adz

Love the way i keep telling people Nicholls is back in form this season but have managed to not back any of his many winners

nice work


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 02, 2014, 02:41:24 PM

Ha!

Well done Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 02, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
No rule 4 on my placed ones!  Though I would've ended up owing them money with ten non-runners....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
Ground has changed big time at Thirsk and maybe opens up the race a tad.

Had a small ew bet on LastchanceLucas and Lilac Lace, both around 16s.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 05:45:13 PM
Ground has changed big time at Thirsk and maybe opens up the race a tad.

Had a small ew bet on LastchanceLucas and Lilac Lace, both around 16s.


Right idea. Wrong Easterby. No damage with a third.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 03, 2014, 08:20:10 AM
Adz, Roudee is back at Chester today, running a small Class 2, wasn't disgrace behind a very impressive Tiggy Wiggy and I'm sure I done another horse out of that race that has since run and won ( can't remember it name) any 3-1, any good or short enough?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 03, 2014, 08:24:31 AM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt

Unlucky with this yesterday horsey, he is down to run again today at Chester, I presume he will be a non runner but at the moment he is 7-1, what's your thoughts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 03, 2014, 08:31:13 AM


Ommy,

I just happened upon a Post from several days back when you were unwell & hospitalised.

I know you have had health issues for a while, as have several others here, but you guys seem to cope with it well.

Hope you are on the mend now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 03, 2014, 08:40:43 AM


Ommy,

I just happened upon a Post from several days back when you were unwell & hospitalised.

I know you have had health issues for a while, as have several others here, but you guys seem to cope with it well.

Hope you are on the mend now.

Thanks Tikay, fairly used to it now, am convalescing in Suffolk for a few weeks, in laws have a lovely holiday home on a park with fishing lakes and lots of tranquility, Southwold not far away and the weather is great, just the ticket when I hit tough times, internet to a minimum and plenty of fresh air in the lungs. Although the kids are young they understand my difficulties and they give me the space I need. Thanks for enquiring, your a kind soul.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 03, 2014, 09:12:42 AM
Afternoon

Quite keen on Blue Surf in the first at Goodwood tomorrow 1.55.

Was joint fav for the race last year and ran ok, but never really in the hunt. He has run some nice races this year without looking too dangerous and i suspect this has been his target all year, as tomorrow they bring out the first time cheekpieces. It seems ok on all sorts of ground

Has some reasonable back form at Goodwood and as its the Harwood local course, they will be doubly keen to get a winner.

Compared to the 13/2 it went off last year, I'm very happy with the 20-1 its priced up at right now. If it is fancied it could be quite well backed from that price. GL


Dont think the term "running good" will be seen anywhere in this thread. Pays 5 places. Naturally finish 6th. In Lennox Stakes, back Anjaal ew at 25s and finishes third, after 3 get taken out, beaten about half a length tops. Marv,

Proper heart in mouth moment on Anjaal, stuck a tenner on it just before off on bf, then realised I had laid it rather than backed it (bloody mobile phone screens too small), of course you can imagine what I was like when he started coming near the end, never wanted to win a tenner so much. Silver linings and all that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 03, 2014, 10:25:46 AM
Morning Mr Omm.

Glad to here you're feeling better.

I'm a bit meh about Roudee today and shall probably just wish him well, and watch. But yes, if he reproduces that old Chester form he should win.

I am very interested in the Listed race at 3.05.

Whilst he has a few pounds to make up I think this race could be set up for Body and Soul. Initially he looks to be drawn too wide in 8, but with NR that is actually stall 6. With pace coming from all angles, Ballista, Masamah, Ertijall, Intransigent and Coulsty all led, or are perenial front runners, and in effect could set this up for a closer.

Body and Soul led last time but that was by default as they went too slow early on and he pulled to hard and ran no race. His general profile is of an improver, and at 4 he still has plenty of time.

With a bit of cut in the ground I hope to see him tuck in and pounce late as the race falls apart. 7-1 e/w looks tasty.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 03, 2014, 03:31:03 PM
Bah.

Winner rode the race I hoped B&S would, but to be fair got no gaps when travelling well.

Back to drawing board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 03, 2014, 10:35:10 PM
Lord of the Dance for me again tommorow in the 8.15 at Carlisle

Is 20/1 at present which is almost double the price ended up at in the hot ladies handicap at Ascot last time. Ok showed little again but the ground according to the met office will stay at least good which is fine

small each play, working on some interesting stats for the Carlisle ladies only card tommorow think there is an angle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 09:53:49 AM
Going to post a fancy each day for the next two weeks trying to find a decent ew bet of odds over 5-1. See if we can get more energy into the thread.

At Carlisle tonite I like the eyecatching combo of Klynch and Serena Brotherton in the 7.15.

A winner at Course and the Distance, Klynch is slowly running itself into form and now well below its last winning mark. I hope tonite the superiority of Brotherton in the saddle with be enough to coax it home, with it being effective on ground as it is predicted later.

On a 1-10 scale I will have 2pts ew at the general 8-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 12:01:45 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/kempton/15:45/winner

Backed EQUITABLE here at 10/1 small win bet. Good debut win on all weather, slight let down in 3 runs since but excuses especially last time on soft ground at Haddock over to far. Good race though plenty of unexposed types


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 12:41:03 PM
Right so today i have


Spokesperson, Remix (both each way)
Lord of the Dance
Equitable

A lot for me for a Monday! Be happy if one wins

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 04, 2014, 01:19:23 PM
Like the idea of revitalising the thread Adz, will add my picks for comedy value, (like the first far more than the other two)

3.45 Kempton   Barnmore 14/1 e/w  C&D winner, quite like form of staying on 5th behind tenor last time out (beaten horses and winner that day have performed well subsequently)     Jockey takes off 7lb

5.10 Naas  4/1 win Elusive Laurence running well in defeat and drawn well, not huge value but price reflects his chance imo

3.15 Kempton   16/1 e/w Chester Deal, decent effort on his first try at 7f



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 02:15:10 PM
Good stuff Simon.

It would be good to have a few more posters giving us their thoughts each day.

Don't worry if you may miss a smidge of value by not getting the right balance of win/place 100%. This is about what you fancy each day.

Would be good to see some other opinions.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 02:25:15 PM
Good luck Simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 03:42:24 PM
Nice start Simon.

20-1 placer!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 03:46:20 PM
good stuff Simon stayed on pretty well there considering raced very wide throughout


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
non runner here like a winner, hope Doyle is ok.

Yours ran on well Simon seemed hard to make up ground


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 04, 2014, 04:19:21 PM
I am backing Palace Dragon on 4.45 at Kempton, think 4/1 is big - will strip a lot fitter and back to one mile should suit


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 05:28:55 PM
I am backing Palace Dragon on 4.45 at Kempton, think 4/1 is big - will strip a lot fitter and back to one mile should suit


TBH, was surprised they stepped it back. Prescott's usually start off at a mile less than they actually need and this one even started at a mile as a 2 yr old.

Defo races in it though mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 05:50:28 PM
I am backing Palace Dragon on 4.45 at Kempton, think 4/1 is big - will strip a lot fitter and back to one mile should suit


TBH, was surprised they stepped it back. Prescott's usually start off at a mile less than they actually need and this one even started at a mile as a 2 yr old.

Defo races in it though mate.

Agreed

Would love to see the trakus data on that race if it was available in this country, very wide trip.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
Glad i spent two hours researching that this morning...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 06:58:27 PM
Been waiting on a tracker horse to appear in a handicap as it's last run looked to me like it was being teed up.

Swordbearer ew in the 7pm at Kempton.

Came 6th in a race where Godolphin seemed to have half the field. Loomed up two out but when clear he couldn't go with them, Keniry was nice and easy on him. Fanshaw on fire at the mo, so it might get backed tomorrow.

Another 2pts ew @7-1 with Lads or BFSB


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 07:54:36 PM
Going to post a fancy each day for the next two weeks trying to find a decent ew bet of odds over 5-1. See if we can get more energy into the thread.

At Carlisle tonite I like the eyecatching combo of Klynch and Serena Brotherton in the 7.15.

A winner at Course and the Distance, Klynch is slowly running itself into form and now well below its last winning mark. I hope tonite the superiority of Brotherton in the saddle with be enough to coax it home, with it being effective on ground as it is predicted later.

On a 1-10 scale I will have 2pts ew at the general 8-1


Didn't really get the breaks, but probably for place money. Expect I may have picked it a race too soon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 05, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
Lord of the Dance made a massive move from last to third 1 furlong out before paying for that late on to tire.

Certainly has a win in it from this mark with a more controlled ride

Nothing for me today gd lk if you play


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 12:04:31 PM
No strong fancies today, but can't let that stop me having a bet...

7.45 Ripon win bets    Megaleka 9-1  Inxile 7-1 and Captain Dunne 16-1
8.15 Ripon    Sir Frank Morgan 5-1 seems to alternate good and bad runs - lets hope today's a going day
2.00 Ffos Las    will bet As A Dream e/w at a big price if no non-runners as suspect he may appreciate ground, especially as fav is untried in conditions


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: youthnkzR on August 05, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
No strong fancies today, but can't let that stop me having a bet...

7.45 Ripon win bets    Megaleka 9-1  Inxile 7-1 and Captain Dunne 16-1
8.15 Ripon    Sir Frank Morgan 5-1 seems to alternate good and bad runs - lets hope today's a going day
2.00 Ffos Las    will bet As A Dream e/w at a big price if no non-runners as suspect he may appreciate ground, especially as fav is untried in conditions

Hope you bet that with the NR mate! Well played!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 05, 2014, 02:31:27 PM
Booooom Simon!!!!



The Racing Thread. Where the real winners hangout! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 02:36:56 PM
Thank you, thank you, certainly did take some of the 50's...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 05, 2014, 03:20:10 PM
wowsers hell of a pick

nice one simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 05, 2014, 03:22:07 PM

Well done Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 05, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
Picked a good morning to miss checking the thread :D

Well done mate, great pick!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 05, 2014, 07:37:16 PM
Been waiting on a tracker horse to appear in a handicap as it's last run looked to me like it was being teed up.

Swordbearer ew in the 7pm at Kempton.

Came 6th in a race where Godolphin seemed to have half the field. Loomed up two out but when clear he couldn't go with them, Keniry was nice and easy on him. Fanshaw on fire at the mo, so it might get backed tomorrow.

Another 2pts ew @7-1 with Lads or BFSB


Can't compete with Simons majestic 50-1 winner(tytyty again!) but Swordbearer ran a cracker. Clear second best, and I suspect again, may have got there a race early. All profit though as finished at 9-1.


Edit. Must be some terrible race readers out there as just noticed got the win only stake back on betty that I laid back at 1.9.
Never looked odds on to win to me, but more than happy!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 05, 2014, 07:50:22 PM
Been waiting on a tracker horse to appear in a handicap as it's last run looked to me like it was being teed up.

Swordbearer ew in the 7pm at Kempton.

Came 6th in a race where Godolphin seemed to have half the field. Loomed up two out but when clear he couldn't go with them, Keniry was nice and easy on him. Fanshaw on fire at the mo, so it might get backed tomorrow.

Another 2pts ew @7-1 with Lads or BFSB


Can't compete with Simons majestic 50-1 winner(tytyty again!) but Swordbearer ran a cracker. Clear second best, and I suspect again, may have got there a race early. All profit though as finished at 9-1.


Edit. Must be some terrible race readers out there as just noticed got the win only stake back on betty that I laid back at 1.9.
Never looked odds on to win to me, but more than happy!

Can't compete with the amount of seconds your having, well done  ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Nice work, thanks for Swordbearer Adz. We just need to get the fav beat in the last at Kempton now, or is that too much to ask?    I'm taking it on with Willly Brennan (11-1 at lunchtime) and  Taquka after the discussion on TFT.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 05, 2014, 08:52:06 PM
Nice work, thanks for Swordbearer Adz. We just need to get the fav beat in the last at Kempton now, or is that too much to ask?    I'm taking it on with Willly Brennan (11-1 at lunchtime) and  Taquka after the discussion on TFT.

I backed Meritocracy at 33s. Been running just in behind in some reasonable fields and hoping he can be the one. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 08:52:13 PM
It was a going day for Sir Frank, unfortunately 2nd by a head


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
OMG 40 and 50 to 1 winners in one day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 05, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
Bloody Hell Simon.

Think you should set up your own Betting Line! 50-1 and 33-1. What a star!

Sadly stuck with my own 33-1 shot that traded at 1.66.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 09:38:39 PM
obv backed yours as well lol, thought you had it a furlong out.  Don't know if it was valid or not but I looked at a website that suggested high drawn horses were not as disadvantaged as the commentary suggested - so looked to pick a couple on that basis.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 05, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
obv backed yours as well lol, thought you had it a furlong out.  Don't know if it was valid or not but I looked at a website that suggested high drawn horses were not as disadvantaged as the commentary suggested - so looked to pick a couple on that basis.

Stupendous stuff, sir!

You can thank me now for not backing either of them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 05, 2014, 09:42:15 PM
jesus wept

amazing one of if not the best days of tipping seen anywhere not just on here

SUPERB!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 05, 2014, 09:44:14 PM
obv backed yours as well lol, thought you had it a furlong out.  Don't know if it was valid or not but I looked at a website that suggested high drawn horses were not as disadvantaged as the commentary suggested - so looked to pick a couple on that basis.

Stupendous stuff, sir!

You can thank me now for not backing either of them.

Haha, this!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 05, 2014, 09:46:17 PM
obv backed yours as well lol, thought you had it a furlong out.  Don't know if it was valid or not but I looked at a website that suggested high drawn horses were not as disadvantaged as the commentary suggested - so looked to pick a couple on that basis.

Draw important but not as much as it is sometimes implied, certainly not a Chester situation.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on August 06, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
incred effort simon.  vwp.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 06, 2014, 06:48:00 AM
OMG 40 and 50 to 1 winners in one day.

You WHAT?

Oh my word, well done Simon.

You could punt horses every day for the rest of your life & not repeat that feat.

Congrats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 06, 2014, 07:19:03 AM
Well done, great effort.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 10:02:50 AM
Initially I struggled for a bet, but a race which has a couple of friends Mr Manaman and Thatcherite, forced me to have a good look.

Mr Mac after a long time in the wilderness(much like his trainer) has suddenly come good, and wouldn't surprise me if he went on to win 5/6 over the next few races. Thatcherite keeps finding too much trouble and looked uncomfortable here last time with a good draw. Hemmed in on the rails was always going to be an issue for a hold up horse, before anyone asks...
Could be ok today with a wider draw to choose where to settle and come late.

However, in Mr Macs second last race Haajes, now 10(eek), ran a promising race. After getting slightly baulked early doors, he finished about 3.5l behind MM. Now on much better terms and Graham Lee on board(instead of Shirley Teasdale), whereas MM carries over 10st with Kevin Stott now replacing Adrian Nicholls, I see this being much closer.

The cincher is that Haajes has a very good record round the 5F at Ponte.

Lots of ifs and buts but @10-1 1pt ew Haajes. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
The Brighton Mile looks a fair renewal this year.

Fancy a couple small win bets here at big prices not an each way event.

SWORD OF THE LORD bit of 20's around thats tempted me not been with trainer long and has form on soft ground over this c and d, needs to bounce back.

Even bigger price PICENO at 33's, had no chance in a good race at Chester last time drawn 11 and ground to quick. Loves soft ground will race up there and can win from this mark.

The ATR pundits will be banging on about a low draw being key, over this trip on soft ground that is rubbish both of mine are drawn wide and with the riders like to stick to the stands side late on they should have the advantage. Whether either are good enough to hold on from the unexposed favs is doubtful but thats why they are 20's+

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 01:24:40 PM
NRs galore and every direction I look the ones I could choose are out, so leave it to you guys today. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
Interesting snippet I was told today.

Stall 2 at Ponte has a 30% strike rate in all races at Ponte in 2014.

Quite remarkable I thought.

Watch em all lose today!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 06, 2014, 03:35:42 PM
Interesting snippet I was told today.

Stall 2 at Ponte has a 30% strike rate in all races at Ponte in 2014.

Quite remarkable I thought.

Watch em all lose today!

Does 4 count as 2 in the first with 2&3 being out?  ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
Burgle Lynch has a licence back




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 06, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
Interesting snippet I was told today.

Stall 2 at Ponte has a 30% strike rate in all races at Ponte in 2014.

Quite remarkable I thought.

Watch em all lose today!

Adz what you think of my od mate Les Eyres Boxing Shadows in the 4:10?  Its out of stall 2 as well.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 03:51:28 PM
Interesting snippet I was told today.

Stall 2 at Ponte has a 30% strike rate in all races at Ponte in 2014.

Quite remarkable I thought.

Watch em all lose today!

Adz what you think of my od mate Les Eyres Boxing Shadows in the 4:10?  Its out of stall 2 as well.  


Seems to be getting it together again, and a nice pull with MM, also got David Allen back instead of Jacob Butterfingers. And the magic 2 box!!

I would have done MM earlier, but one of my golden rules is never back those carrying over 10 stone. Again, I may miss out on some but long term it works for me. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
Was close to a bet again for me MM today for me Stott on for Nicholls is a plus if anything


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:16:50 PM
more value pie 33's into 14's

Perfectly judged ride no complaints beat the rest streets e.t.c



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 06, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Wow, crossbar - great call Horsey


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:22:10 PM
If we had the rain expected down here think may have got even closer/won

Never mind


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Good pick horsey. good bit of ew cash.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 06, 2014, 04:33:46 PM
Just watched the race, and thought Piceno was going to get up again once he started coming back.

The burden of my cash just weighed him down... Unlucky mate.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:35:43 PM
Simon is the man for winners at that price

Yep the winner has dogged it in the past which gave me brief hope but alas no


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
Was close to a bet again for me MM today for me Stott on for Nicholls is a plus if anything


Not convinced. Made a bit of a mess of that I thought, but that's good. Had none of my cash today, and I reckon he still has a bit up his sleeve, regardless of what that ran appeared to say.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:41:38 PM
Its amazing how much these new Appleby inmates find in a finish


cough


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 04:45:52 PM
Its amazing how much these new Appleby inmates find in a finish


cough


Oh dear, is that a  ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:46:43 PM
Its amazing how much these new Appleby inmates find in a finish


cough


Oh dear, is that a  ;bigadz;

nope no bet just his horses constantly "find" more especially ones he has got from elsewere, let people make their own mind up why


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 04:53:15 PM
Its amazing how much these new Appleby inmates find in a finish


cough


Oh dear, is that a  ;bigadz;

nope no bet just his horses constantly "find" more especially ones he has got from elsewere, let people make their own mind up why

LOL. Surely its because he is an excellent Trainer!

On another note, entirely unrelated, I am ready a lovely book at the moment called Doped, all about the early days of the Ladbrokes and Will Hill Empires and how associates were alleged involved in race fixing. Smashing read so far. Totally unrelated though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
Sure i have mentioned the story of Art Scholar before but anyway.

Was with Gary Moore and a friend of mine had a very small share., Gary had it very fit for debut and it won which was a bit of a surprise as Gary thought it would struggle to ever win a race and to possibly not bother keeping it in training.

Anyway after that it struggled for him and Gary Moore kept telling him to retire it/take up something else with it. It eventually went to Appleby for about £800 after getting hammered in a class 6 at Brighton of 55. Cue less than 18 months later winning the November handicap from 93 :)

Suffice to say my friend was not to happy that day as he had numerous chances to buy it outright for under a grand!

Subsequent events with other good trainers having horses suddenly improve for the same switch have always made me wonder, especially as said trainer had a brief spell training a few years back with no success.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 05:42:54 PM
Beloved Southwell is back tommorow night

such a hard card ironically the only big rick i think i can find is HIDDEN ASSET at 10's in the 8.35 trained by Appleby....

Be backed the last twice its been there for him into fav (run shockers both times) they dont usually miss and has been of again for nearly a year this is a terrible race and a long absence is a bonus for this trainer rather than a worry. The fact he brings it back here again is also a plus as he trains near the track so he must think it now acts on it.

Ones thing for sure it wont be this price this time tommorow

On further inspection the 8.05 is interesting

Low grade 3 year old only staying handicap. Johnny Murtagh brings two over which is strange in itself (the other one is an ex Barney Curley beast already being punted in another race) and he has booked Fallon for this one.

Some will see that as a positive but he has often commented how much he hates riding Southwell and the horse looks beatable.

I am going to take it on with two small bets, BUY OUT BOY 9/1 appleby again was well backed the only time in its career it ran here and ran ok from 62 in a class 5. Now down to a class 6 and up again in trip i suspect will be punted again. Even smaller bet on OFELIA for Ellison at 13/2, ran well last time in a seller staying on well looks like needs this trip and like most of these is unexposed at these trips.


So three bets for me tomorrow which are

8.05 BUY OUT BOY 9/1 AND OFELIA 13/2

8.35 HIDDEN TALENT 10/1

slightly more on Hidden Talent than the other two, gd lk wont be around tommorow




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 06, 2014, 06:46:12 PM
Think I'll have a small e/w bet @ 14-1 on Bennelong in the last at Kempton tonight, seems a decent price for a C&D winner off around this mark.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 06, 2014, 09:36:19 PM
BOOOMMMM


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 09:36:27 PM
Think I'll have a small e/w bet @ 14-1 on Bennelong in the last at Kempton tonight, seems a decent price for a C&D winner off around this mark.


Just wow.

Great run, I doff my hat to thee. Your making us some very nice money here Simon, ty ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 06, 2014, 09:41:20 PM
Lol, you couldn't make it up.

Nice one, Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 09:41:33 PM
the new pricewise?

just superb


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 06, 2014, 09:41:42 PM
BOOOMMMM

Well done Simon , didn't miss that one, small win only, thanks very much.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 06, 2014, 10:08:22 PM
Ha Ha, Fish on a heater, enjoy while it lasts...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 06, 2014, 10:43:19 PM
Think I'll have a small e/w bet @ 14-1 on Bennelong in the last at Kempton tonight, seems a decent price for a C&D winner off around this mark.

What a week you've had, incred stuff, well done Simon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 06, 2014, 11:16:24 PM
Sick, thought i bet this earlier when it was posted i ended up getting caught up elsewhere and obvs never clicked the confirm button.  FML. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 11:37:23 PM
Safe to say, thanks to Simon, the racing thread is well and truly re-energized!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on August 07, 2014, 05:14:47 AM
Go on Barney Mcgrew at 18/1 at 19:45 newcastle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 07, 2014, 10:57:52 AM
4.10 Haydock   Go Go Green 20/1 e/w   C&D winner, OK on ground, modest recent form but not beaten out of sight. Stable 2nd string on jockey bookings, though 3lb claimer Joey Haynes has won or placed on half his rides in last week, so doubt he can hurt his chances too much. Draw not ideal, suggest keep stakes small.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 07, 2014, 12:10:53 PM
Been waiting for a slight ease in the ground for Black Douglas, who keeps finishing his races well, but just lacks that extra kick when the ground is firm.

On a C&D where he has won before I am hoping tonite is the nite.

I know its a terrible ew race, but if he came 2nd/or 3rd and I lost out, I would be a tad annoyed. Betty have 4 places so I shall ask for decent terms there.

1pt ew further 1 pt win @14s VC/Lads/Billy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 07, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
Money now for Hidden Asset looks like going of around 4's 5 imo

The other race is completely up in the air as it is the last leg of the barney 4 timer

Not laying the fav in that now easier to leave him well alone


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 07, 2014, 08:18:24 PM
Another NR.

Tomorrow, I was looking to back Noverre to Go next time it ran at Brighton in the form its in. Tomorrow he does.

Bonus, I notice he won the same race last year over a pound higher mark.

At 6s I shall have 2pts ew


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 07, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
one of the stranger heats you will ever see anywhere that. Fallon gives up 5 out then realises his horse has woken up 2 out and nearly wins.

The slowest closing sectionals at Southwell of any race since 2012 as well which made it look worse.

Appleby had two winners already so hopefully the one in the last can win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 07, 2014, 09:14:41 PM
Appleby has four runners two win the two i back dont, must have read my post :)

No excuses there not good enough


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 07, 2014, 11:33:39 PM
Another NR.

Tomorrow, I was looking to back Noverre to Go next time it ran at Brighton in the form its in. Tomorrow he does.

Bonus, I notice he won the same race last year over a pound higher mark.

At 6s I shall have 2pts ew


Noverre punted in as low as 7/2 this evening.

There is some 16-1 with VC for Fieldgunner Kirkup tomorrow. I think his time is near, but he has a terrible record at Muss, so min ew stakes, but can't see him being that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 11:39:16 AM
Noverre now best 7/2, as low as 11/4. Fingers crossed.

Fieldgunner. Shock, a NR!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 08, 2014, 11:43:46 AM
Adz, Horsey and various other racing heroes.....

Me and Kev Allen ave organised a group of us going to Ascot tommorow, for a post Vegas get together and to celebrate Corkys ME finish. Most of the boys like a bet and I am loathed to see them bet based on their aunties name for big numbers.  Obviously it's the Shergar Cup, which means plenty of exposed horses, form in the book and unusual jockey bookings.  I'll obviously ask about our contacts however if any if you shrewdies have any fancies post them here. Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 11:48:39 AM
Adz, Horsey and various other racing heroes.....

Me and Kev Allen ave organised a group of us going to Ascot tommorow, for a post Vegas get together and to celebrate Corkys ME finish. Most of the boys like a bet and I am loathed to see them bet based on their aunties name for big numbers.  Obviously it's the Shergar Cup, which means plenty of exposed horses, form in the book and unusual jockey bookings.  I'll obviously ask about our contacts however if any if you shrewdies have any fancies post them here. Thanks in advance.


Love The Shergar.

Working on it as we speak.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 08, 2014, 11:50:33 AM
Legend...appreciate any insights if you don't mind mate after you've been through card


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 12:20:55 PM
First thought look very un punter friendly races, dont usually look at it tbh but 10-13 runner handicaps with about 5lbs separating the fields seems to be the norm!

All i will add is that Emma Jayne Wilson is a very good rider from Canada been around a long time and won some big races if she is underestimated then could be worth backing on a few rides.

gd lk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 08, 2014, 12:49:28 PM


Can anyone give me a brief resume of Barney's antics yesterday? I heard there was some mischief.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 12:56:40 PM


Can anyone give me a brief resume of Barney's antics yesterday? I heard there was some mischief.

There were 5 entries yesterday

Two for Johnny Murtagh (yes that one former top jockey) One of his was ex Barney Curley one wasnt

Two for Des Donovan (been involved in Barneys last punt, one was first time out maiden one was exposed maiden handicapper both ran poorly after drifting late on both occasions)

One for John Butler (formerly Barneys assistant rather shrewd, the man who once said on ATR when asked do you think anyone will claim your horse replied with "I wouldnt if i was them) Again drifted late after being "backed" early on and ran nowhere.


Barney sorry Murtaghs two at Southwell both should have won, the first one which was a Group 2 winner in germany way back when just won after the jockey on the second must have been the only one in the race who didnt get the email (great ride) was 28 lengths back to the third.

The second one was one of the strangest heats you will ever see, Fallon outpaced early gives up 5 furlongs out briefly niggles away and seemingly flies home to be beat half a length. The times suggested the track was so slow last night it was a bit of an illusion.

The in running comments for Fallon are below

"2nd (7)   ½   2 Bwindi (IRE)   J P Murtagh   3   9-6   K Fallon   8/13f
Towards rear, some headway under pressure over 5f out, ridden 4f out (rider briefly stopped riding), plenty to do over 1f out, driven and ran on final furlong, not reach winner opened 4/6"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 08, 2014, 01:00:06 PM


Can anyone give me a brief resume of Barney's antics yesterday? I heard there was some mischief.

There were 5 entries yesterday

Two for Johnny Murtagh (yes that one former top jockey) One of his was ex Barney Curley one wasnt

Two for Des Donovan (been involved in Barneys last punt, one was first time out maiden one was exposed maiden handicapper both ran poorly after drifting late on both occasions)

One for John Butler (formerly Barneys assistant rather shrewd, the man who once said on ATR when asked do you think anyone will claim your horse replied with "I wouldnt if i was them) Again drifted late after being "backed" early on and ran nowhere.


Barney sorry Murtaghs two at Southwell both should have won, the first one which was a Group 2 winner in germany way back when just won after the jockey on the second must have been the only one in the race who didnt get the email (great ride) was 28 lengths back to the third.

The second one was one of the strangest heats you will ever see, Fallon outpaced early gives up 5 furlongs out briefly niggles away and seemingly flies home to be beat half a length. The times suggested the track was so slow last night it was a bit of an illusion.



Thanks John.

I heard the losers, who were very short in the morning, all drifted hugely, too. Just a coincidence, obv.

How does he get away with it? Does he have dirt on The Jockey Club or summat?

Quite enjoy listening to him ranting, but he's a proper wrong 'un.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 01:05:37 PM


Can anyone give me a brief resume of Barney's antics yesterday? I heard there was some mischief.

There were 5 entries yesterday

Two for Johnny Murtagh (yes that one former top jockey) One of his was ex Barney Curley one wasnt

Two for Des Donovan (been involved in Barneys last punt, one was first time out maiden one was exposed maiden handicapper both ran poorly after drifting late on both occasions)

One for John Butler (formerly Barneys assistant rather shrewd, the man who once said on ATR when asked do you think anyone will claim your horse replied with "I wouldnt if i was them) Again drifted late after being "backed" early on and ran nowhere.


Barney sorry Murtaghs two at Southwell both should have won, the first one which was a Group 2 winner in germany way back when just won after the jockey on the second must have been the only one in the race who didnt get the email (great ride) was 28 lengths back to the third.

The second one was one of the strangest heats you will ever see, Fallon outpaced early gives up 5 furlongs out briefly niggles away and seemingly flies home to be beat half a length. The times suggested the track was so slow last night it was a bit of an illusion.



Thanks John.

I heard the losers, who were very short in the morning, all drifted hugely, too. Just a coincidence, obv.

How does he get away with it? Does he have dirt on The Jockey Club or summat?

Quite enjoy listening to him ranting, but he's a proper wrong 'un.

Impossible to tell really, they were short enough in the morning but did anybody really back them? Certainly the way they drifted suggests Barney wasnt involved at all.

I suspect the two at Southwell were the only ones that were meant for yesterday with the others possible a smokescreen or just nothing to do with Barney (for now).







Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 02:00:52 PM

3.30 Muss   Backed Just Paul win 5-1 and Al Khan e/w 14-1 - just to cement my ice cream status I've also done these in a rev f/cast. Will be interested to see how this race pans out, I'm hoping that with plenty of potential front runners there's scope for Just Paul to reel them back if they've gone too fast.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 02:15:24 PM
Shergar Cup

Will put up some horses later, but very keen on Craig Williams as Top Jockey. Got some good solid rides, that all look capable of winning, but equally all look like decent point scorers.

He is 8-1 with Hills who on Oddschecker says ew-1,2,3, which was going to be a decent ew bet, but the site says win only.

He is 4-1 in 2 other places.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 02:23:45 PM
Ladbrokes exchange are doing a £25 free bet thingy

If you haven't used their exchange before place upto £25 bet on any exchange market and if it loses get a £25 free bet with a week expiry

well worth doing if you can


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 02:46:06 PM
Two pretty weak picks..

Mystical Maze  Brighton 15:10  Betdaq  12-1 win. Race looked very weak and a small gamble based on possibility of fav not liking course (in a race I should have just passed on)

Alex My Boy Musselburgh 16:00  Betdaq 13/10  Form in book and 2nd fav not certain to want trip on breeding? Couldn't see much elso to oppose with


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 02:48:14 PM
Ladbrokes exchange are doing a £25 free bet thingy

If you haven't used their exchange before place upto £25 bet on any exchange market and if it loses get a £25 free bet with a week expiry

well worth doing if you can
Good offer, I found it strange that exch comm is 5% versus 3% Betdaq as this is a Betdaq "skin" if I understood right?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 08, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
Shergar Cup

Will put up some horses later, but very keen on Craig Williams as Top Jockey. Got some good solid rides, that all look capable of winning, but equally all look like decent point scorers.

He is 8-1 with Hills who on Oddschecker says ew-1,2,3, which was going to be a decent ew bet, but the site says win only.

He is 4-1 in 2 other places.

Will Hayler was getting stuck into him last night :D

'Before we get our money on you for the silver saddle, we need to know you're going to be pushing out for 4th, 5th, and 6th. None of this easing off'





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 03:42:53 PM

Mystical Maze  Brighton 15:10  Betdaq  12-1 win. Race looked very weak and a small gamble based on possibility of fav not liking course (in a race I should have just passed on)


Plumb last, only thing I got right was to oppose fav.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 03:54:35 PM
Shergar Cup

Will put up some horses later, but very keen on Craig Williams as Top Jockey. Got some good solid rides, that all look capable of winning, but equally all look like decent point scorers.

He is 8-1 with Hills who on Oddschecker says ew-1,2,3, which was going to be a decent ew bet, but the site says win only.

He is 4-1 in 2 other places.

Will Hayler was getting stuck into him last night :D

'Before we get our money on you for the silver saddle, we need to know you're going to be pushing out for 4th, 5th, and 6th. None of this easing off'






Was that a podcast or on TV mate?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 08, 2014, 03:59:31 PM
Shergar Cup

Will put up some horses later, but very keen on Craig Williams as Top Jockey. Got some good solid rides, that all look capable of winning, but equally all look like decent point scorers.

He is 8-1 with Hills who on Oddschecker says ew-1,2,3, which was going to be a decent ew bet, but the site says win only.

He is 4-1 in 2 other places.

Will Hayler was getting stuck into him last night :D

'Before we get our money on you for the silver saddle, we need to know you're going to be pushing out for 4th, 5th, and 6th. None of this easing off'






Was that a podcast or on TV mate?

Podcast for Shergar Cup. Just checked and it's still up on SL now mate.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 04:01:02 PM
Cheers will have a listen.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 04:33:49 PM
Two pretty weak picks..

Alex My Boy Musselburgh 16:00  Betdaq 13/10  Form in book and 2nd fav not certain to want trip on breeding? Couldn't see much elso to oppose with


at last !, had forgotten what it was like to have a winner..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 08, 2014, 04:38:58 PM
Two pretty weak picks..

Alex My Boy Musselburgh 16:00  Betdaq 13/10  Form in book and 2nd fav not certain to want trip on breeding? Couldn't see much elso to oppose with


at last !, had forgotten what it was like to have a winner..

Lol, behave!

Will reply to your PM soonest, bit busy Next Door at mo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 04:48:49 PM

3.30 Muss   Backed Just Paul win 5-1 and Al Khan e/w 14-1 - just to cement my ice cream status I've also done these in a rev f/cast. Will be interested to see how this race pans out, I'm hoping that with plenty of potential front runners there's scope for Just Paul to reel them back if they've gone too fast.

Don't feel too bad about that having just watched the race, Just Paul beaten a length or so in 4th and the race was set up for the hold up horses.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 08, 2014, 04:49:03 PM
Talking of John Butler he has sent One Chance to Tipperary tonight and Queally gone over for just that ride

Not saying back it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 06:31:04 PM
Sir Maximilian wins a good group race in Ireland

Was some bet first time at Chester great job by Tim Pitt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
Bit rushed so will just post a few bits

Buckland 33-1 ew 1.30. Got a decent form line with Estimate over C&D and trainer starting to get some winners.

Two for Two 10-1 e/w 2.40. Again looks to be run all over the place and these conditions look to suit.

Small ew Astrononerous 8-1, same race Mr Gallivanter bit more ew @ 11-1


Also maybe worth tiny bet on Latin Charm later 8.30 H,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 08, 2014, 07:02:51 PM
Bit rushed so will just post a few bits

Buckland 33-1 ew 1.30. Got a decent form line with Estimate over C&D and trainer starting to get some winners.

Two for Two 10-1 e/w 2.40. Again looks to be run all over the place and these conditions look to suit.

Small ew Astrononerous 8-1, same race Mr Gallivanter bit more ew @ 11-1


Also maybe worth tiny bet on Latin Charm later 8.30 H,

Thanks for that - look good price sweats :)

Missed the price on the jockey after Adz millions got on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
Bloody hell. Had some fair winners recently but seconds are doing my head in, especially after they been punted. Latin Charm beat a nose.  ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Just seen the Fergal Lynch ride that he got banned 10 years for, for not trying.

Bloody hell, I could find 20 races a week where I have seen jockeys put less effort in and its never even raised an eyebrow. Obviously something very wrong.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 01:25:27 PM
Nice start for our Craig and Goldream there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 09, 2014, 01:59:13 PM
Yes Emma you can ride my gal

lovely stuff


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 02:00:21 PM
Bit rushed so will just post a few bits

Buckland 33-1 ew 1.30. Got a decent form line with Estimate over C&D and trainer starting to get some winners.

Two for Two 10-1 e/w 2.40. Again looks to be run all over the place and these conditions look to suit.

Small ew Astrononerous 8-1, same race Mr Gallivanter bit more ew @ 11-1


Also maybe worth tiny bet on Latin Charm later 8.30 H,


Buckland 2nd. Wonder what I have to do at the mo.

Still, more decent profits.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 09, 2014, 02:04:12 PM
Yes Emma you can ride my gal

lovely stuff


GTFO Emma!


FYP!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 02:05:08 PM
Massive plus 1.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 09, 2014, 02:26:52 PM
Wow, great pick with Buckland - thankyou


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 09, 2014, 02:28:09 PM
didnt realise yours was second was just watching the screen with no sound

sorry


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 09, 2014, 02:38:05 PM
Here's what I backed today - sorry in a rush - 3.05 prices were from last night - good luck all..

Energia Davos Haydock 14:20  16/1
Victoire De Lyphar Newmarket 15:05 20/1
Englishman Newmarket 15:05 9/2

Wanted to back Amralah 2.55 Haydock e/w as well but down to 7 now, may have a small win bet, seems overpriced to me and shouldn't run out of steam at the finish if good enough, don't get how keep reading that Vancouverite was unlucky last time out - we''ll see later I guess.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 09, 2014, 02:54:39 PM
didnt realise yours was second was just watching the screen with no sound

sorry

Guessed that you hadn't realised :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 02:56:14 PM
Here's what I backed today - sorry in a rush - 3.05 prices were from last night - good luck all..

Energia Davos Haydock 14:20  16/1
Victoire De Lyphar Newmarket 15:05 20/1
Englishman Newmarket 15:05 9/2

Wanted to back Amralah 2.55 Haydock e/w as well but down to 7 now, may have a small win bet, seems overpriced to me and shouldn't run out of steam at the finish if good enough, don't get how keep reading that Vancouverite was unlucky last time out - we''ll see later I guess.


Blimey, off again!!!!

Thankfully Linfoot tipped so already in the smaller stuff. WP Simon!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 02:57:06 PM
Here's what I backed today - sorry in a rush - 3.05 prices were from last night - good luck all..

Energia Davos Haydock 14:20  16/1
Victoire De Lyphar Newmarket 15:05 20/1
Englishman Newmarket 15:05 9/2

Wanted to back Amralah 2.55 Haydock e/w as well but down to 7 now, may have a small win bet, seems overpriced to me and shouldn't run out of steam at the finish if good enough, don't get how keep reading that Vancouverite was unlucky last time out - we''ll see later I guess.

Just noticed this.  What a beast!

I had your first, too ( ;bigadz; ), as well as Chancery ( ;booder; )



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 09, 2014, 03:06:22 PM
yikes another one well done simon

Clay i hope u took the Emma Jayne hint what a great ride that was saved enough

( ;bigadz; ) backed her at 25's last night have laid off at evens on the machine now back level for the day after the hq bets from chompy

lovely


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Micko on August 09, 2014, 03:27:55 PM
Incredible tipping simon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 03:40:53 PM
Raise your gaze is a speculative one for me in this.

I loathe the shergar cup, mind.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 03:44:04 PM
Raise your gaze is a speculative one for me in this.

I loathe the shergar cup, mind.

Bleugh!

Still a daft meet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 09, 2014, 03:46:17 PM
Everything crossed for you Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 03:48:09 PM
Photo finish. No need to ask where mine finshed. lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on August 09, 2014, 03:58:41 PM
Adz is in incred form on the horses and I was giving him a few slaps on the back and he said I needed to look in and see what Simon had been doing.

Incredible scenes guys.Top notch stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 03:58:58 PM
Have an interest on Calypso Beat in this one. Would have loved a tricast with Winters Moon and Muraqaaba. No fun with seven runners.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 09, 2014, 04:00:39 PM


Step aside pleno, we might just have a new Best In The Business".

Amazing stuff Simon. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Adz is in incred form on the horses and I was giving him a few slaps on the back and he said I needed to look in and see what Simon had been doing.

Incredible scenes guys.Top notch stuff.


Needless to say the stuff I send bobby bolts up, cant pick me nose on here!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 04:02:14 PM
You have GOT to be kidding me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
Another NR.

Tomorrow, I was looking to back Noverre to Go next time it ran at Brighton in the form its in. Tomorrow he does.

Bonus, I notice he won the same race last year over a pound higher mark.

At 6s I shall have 2pts ew


Noverre punted in as low as 7/2 this evening.

There is some 16-1 with VC for Fieldgunner Kirkup tomorrow. I think his time is near, but he has a terrible record at Muss, so min ew stakes, but can't see him being that


Hope those with keen eyes kept em open, as he just won.  ;) ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 09, 2014, 04:24:17 PM
Another NR.

Tomorrow, I was looking to back Noverre to Go next time it ran at Brighton in the form its in. Tomorrow he does.

Bonus, I notice he won the same race last year over a pound higher mark.

At 6s I shall have 2pts ew


Noverre punted in as low as 7/2 this evening.

There is some 16-1 with VC for Fieldgunner Kirkup tomorrow. I think his time is near, but he has a terrible record at Muss, so min ew stakes, but can't see him being that


Hope those with keen eyes kept em open, as he just won.  ;) ;bigadz;

Yeah, magic, thanks...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
Well done, Adz.

I like having a winning Saturday for a change :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 09, 2014, 04:32:23 PM
Well done, Adz.

I like having a winning Saturday for a change :)

Would have been nice, but unfortunately it appears Pompey are the ones with the lurgy...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 10, 2014, 10:02:41 AM
Haven't looked at race much at all but have had a tiny e/w interest in Able Mate 33/1 in the 2.00 Leics , Shamardal colt should like the ground (assuming it's not going to be good come this afternoon)
3.30 Leics    Piazon 13/2 and Foxy Clarets 20/1 - soft ground form


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 10, 2014, 10:41:23 AM
(All today's picks are pretty weak based on ground softening up - they come with a huge health warning, wouldn't be a shock if they all blanked)

Starwatch 8/1            Windsor 16:45
Myboyalfie 16/1          Windsor 16:45
Solo Hunter 25/1        Windsor 16:45
Mia San Triple 15/8    Windsor 15:45
Sarangoo 14/1           Windsor 15:45
Lady Of Illusion 66/1   Windsor 14:45
Bernisdale  11/4         Windsor 14:15


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 10, 2014, 11:23:14 AM
Thanks Adz....she's some rider and the jockey bet was so unlucky.

I didn't get on as proce had moved, Toby had a decent bet and obviously didn't hedge.

The two seconds were unlucky; we had an average start after backing Hassle as well - however as a bunch of childish poker players do we have the reins to Pez in race three who promptly picked Seemen, for no other reasons than childish gags with every bookie / female race goer / each other.  We then had a message for Highland Acclaim which helped. Most out in profit or no damage done and a great day.  Those wp seocnd a would have made it perfect but equally were good returns.

Thanks for taking time to post; really appreciate it!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 11:37:36 AM
NP Clay. Glad you had a good day!

Simon not left many races to look at, but managed to find one. ;)

In the third at Leicester, a horse that could be named after some of my Blonde friends, has been on my list waiting for some soft ground to come around.

I am hoping the monsoons we have seen in the Cotswolds shift 'cross country to Leicester, as I quite like the look of All Talk N No Do @3.00pm. EW @14s. GL ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 10, 2014, 11:53:46 AM
Ha ha… strongly fancy your quality to beat my quantity today. Good luck anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 01:08:28 PM
Sunday forum on atr was interesting today

Chapman told a good story about Emma when she was riding Dont Call me for Dandy. He was waiting for her in the saddling area with set instructions, before he could speak she told him she had seen all of the videos and told Dandy what she thought she should do.

not many jockeys over here that do that much research and it showed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 03:04:33 PM
(All today's picks are pretty weak based on ground softening up - they come with a huge health warning, wouldn't be a shock if they all blanked)

Starwatch 8/1            Windsor 16:45
Myboyalfie 16/1          Windsor 16:45
Solo Hunter 25/1        Windsor 16:45
Mia San Triple 15/8    Windsor 15:45
Sarangoo 14/1           Windsor 15:45
Lady Of Illusion 66/1   Windsor 14:45
Bernisdale  11/4         Windsor 14:15

I had Myboyalfie as the last leg of a 600/1 treble one Sunday last year... Horse was in front last 100 yards, and was headed on the line :(


Good luck today mate!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 03:29:20 PM
Starting to feel like the Jim Furyk of tipsters.

Always in the frame making plenty, but never quite winning!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
:D

Unlucky mate...


After not backing all 3 horses that popped up in my nagme yesterday, I've backed the 2 that have popped up today

Basil Berry in the next at Leicester, which has gone close the last few times, and will handle the ground.

Arrowzone in the 1630 at Leicester, which will like the ground too.


Not great prices, but a double would be nice...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
:D

Unlucky mate...


After not backing all 3 horses that popped up in my nagme yesterday, I've backed the 2 that have popped up today

Basil Berry in the next at Leicester, which has gone close the last few times, and will handle the ground.

Arrowzone in the 1630 at Leicester, which will like the ground too.


Not great prices, but a double would be nice...


Light under a bushel mate.

Step aside old guard, new kids in town!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
:D

Unlucky mate...


After not backing all 3 horses that popped up in my nagme yesterday, I've backed the 2 that have popped up today

Basil Berry in the next at Leicester, which has gone close the last few times, and will handle the ground.

Arrowzone in the 1630 at Leicester, which will like the ground too.


Not great prices, but a double would be nice...


Light under a bushel mate.

Step aside old guard, new kids in town!!!

Fingers crossed Arrowzone recreates it's run from the race when I gave it to you last time!

Wish I'd just dived in yesterday, instead of passing over Token of Love, because it had 20lbs to find with Lightning Thunder, and Don't Call Me, because I thought Magic City was a good thing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 04:17:32 PM
I best not mention my text to bobby when Token was 10-1 then.......... ;whistle;


Good luck with that double bud!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 04:23:03 PM
I best not mention my text to bobby when Token was 10-1 then.......... ;whistle;


Good luck with that double bud!

Would have been best, but I expect no less, thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
:D

Unlucky mate...


After not backing all 3 horses that popped up in my nagme yesterday, I've backed the 2 that have popped up today

Basil Berry in the next at Leicester, which has gone close the last few times, and will handle the ground.

Arrowzone in the 1630 at Leicester, which will like the ground too.


Not great prices, but a double would be nice...


Light under a bushel mate.

Step aside old guard, new kids in town!!!



BOOOOOOOM. Good work young Padawan!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 10, 2014, 04:57:13 PM
Fully expected Run Fat Lass Run to chin you there for irony banter ha ha

Great picks marky - Ty I was in double with my nap in race before at Windsor so owe you a beer


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 05:34:21 PM
superb stuff Marky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 05:43:18 PM
Cheers lads, nice to soften the pain of yesterdays nagme debacle...

LOL @ Shaun, that would have been irony at it's best!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 10, 2014, 05:50:01 PM

Are you boys ALL getting the lot?

Incred stuff, well done all.

Them poor bookies, I feel bad for them. When Marky is winning, things are really bad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 06:40:22 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 10, 2014, 07:00:42 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

It may well be a spot on article but if we had to rid the game of everyone that was cheating or taking the punters for mugs there would be very few left. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 07:03:08 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

It may well be a spot on article but if we had to rid the game of everyone that was cheating or taking the punters for mugs there would be very few left. 

There are elements of cheating everyday (handicapping, running on ground trainer is aware horse will hate, running horses 85% fit e.t.c)

Then there is Lynch who admitted on record he stopped the horse after lying on oath at the original trial saying he had no idea about Miles Rodgers.

Welcome back Burgle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 10, 2014, 07:04:28 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

Would you consider what he did to be worse than someone who overused the whip?

No one who bets big on horse racing should think every horse is running at its peak fitness, ridden by a jockey trying his or her best and is flat out for the win. Same for greyhounds. The exception is the main runners in the biggest races, where we can choose our bet and cheer it home.

Simply put, as I was taught when I was first introduced to racing, it's all in the price.

Then we watch someone beating a horse that can't win within an inch of its life into fifth and the jockey gets a few days off to have a think about his behaviour. He's then welcomed back to work.

Just playing diablo avocado.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 07:08:31 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

Would you consider what he did to be worse than someone who overused the whip?

No one who bets big on horse racing should think every horse is running at its peak fitness, ridden by a jockey trying his or her best and is flat out for the win. Same for greyhounds. The exception is the main runners in the biggest races, where we can choose our bet and cheer it home.

Simply put, as I was taught when I was first introduced to racing, it's all in the price.

Then we watch someone beating a horse that can't win within an inch of its life into fifth and the jockey gets a few days off to have a think about his behaviour. He's then welcomed back to work.

Just playing diablo avocado.

Examples of horses "beaten to within an inch of its life into fifth" in day to day racing in the last say five years? I cant think of many/any.

Of course it is worse, drifters do win (only have to look at some of Simons picks last week many have drifted in price and won) and they have drifted late due to ground seemingly being wrong/trainer form supposed draw biases e.t.c



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 10, 2014, 07:12:27 PM

diablo avocado

Excellent.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 07:14:09 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

Would you consider what he did to be worse than someone who overused the whip?

No one who bets big on horse racing should think every horse is running at its peak fitness, ridden by a jockey trying his or her best and is flat out for the win. Same for greyhounds. The exception is the main runners in the biggest races, where we can choose our bet and cheer it home.

Simply put, as I was taught when I was first introduced to racing, it's all in the price.

Then we watch someone beating a horse that can't win within an inch of its life into fifth and the jockey gets a few days off to have a think about his behaviour. He's then welcomed back to work.

Just playing diablo avocado.


You're just playing a dodgy fruit.........hmmm, makes sense. :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 07:15:22 PM

diablo avocado

Excellent.

I had no idea what that meant


so ignored it :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 10, 2014, 07:24:55 PM

diablo avocado

Excellent.

I had no idea what that meant


so ignored it :)

Nor me John. I even googled it, & it came up as some sort of posh dinner.

I just pretend to understand, & say "wp" or whatever. It's best, trust me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 10, 2014, 08:36:47 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

Would you consider what he did to be worse than someone who overused the whip?

No one who bets big on horse racing should think every horse is running at its peak fitness, ridden by a jockey trying his or her best and is flat out for the win. Same for greyhounds. The exception is the main runners in the biggest races, where we can choose our bet and cheer it home.

Simply put, as I was taught when I was first introduced to racing, it's all in the price.

Then we watch someone beating a horse that can't win within an inch of its life into fifth and the jockey gets a few days off to have a think about his behaviour. He's then welcomed back to work.

Just playing diablo avocado.

Examples of horses "beaten to within an inch of its life into fifth" in day to day racing in the last say five years? I cant think of many/any.

Of course it is worse, drifters do win (only have to look at some of Simons picks last week many have drifted in price and won) and they have drifted late due to ground seemingly being wrong/trainer form supposed draw biases e.t.c



I suppose I'm making two points, really:

Firstly, to vilify one jockey for something that is far from unheard of in the sport (even though this was certainly an extreme example) is a bit hypocritical. Not you personally, but the sport as a whole.

Secondly, pretty much every tip posted ITT is made with the awareness that the horse might have been on a lower intensity training programme that week, that it could have been overfed this morning, that the jockey might have been given a nudge by the owner because they want 3lb off for the big race in a month's time or whatever. So, is there an argument that the people who were betting for the horse to win took that risk? Compare that to the overuse of the whip cases, where there is a clear victim on the screen in front of you.

It's good that sport as a whole is making better noises about making it an honest fight. Boxing, Athletics, Cycling, Snooker, Rugby, Football, Baseball and even online poker have had their moments in recent years. The hysteria from within is just something I find difficult to stomach.

Just playing devil's advocate, really.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 08:43:53 PM
Not really hysteria though is it?

A man cheated, was paid to cheat, was banned but still made nearly 3 million us dollars riding in Philadelphia (for his brother) and nearly half that again in Bahrain and then Ireland.

A lot of comments elsewhere saying he has "served his time" he has done nothing of the sort.

Personally i feel uncomfortable that a man who lied under oath is back riding tomorrow, a lot more than a trainer who has a horse half fit on a third run for a handicap


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 10, 2014, 08:56:03 PM
Not really hysteria though is it?

A man cheated, was paid to cheat, was banned but still made nearly 3 million us dollars riding in Philadelphia (for his brother) and nearly half that again in Bahrain and then Ireland.

A lot of comments elsewhere saying he has "served his time" he has done nothing of the sort.

Personally i feel uncomfortable that a man who lied under oath is back riding tomorrow, a lot more than a trainer who has a horse half fit on a third run for a handicap

Fair enough. I think there are different, equally valid opinions on this issue and that's all I was trying to put across.

Not going to fall out over it :) Let me just give you my final words on the matter, though:

As a young boy, I was told all sorts of stories about owners and trainers cheating the system. Dogs and horses. One lesson ended with the line that stayed with me:

"...and if you ever want a reason not to lose everything you have through betting on racing, there it is
"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 10, 2014, 09:00:11 PM

Two cricketers were jailed for the same "offence".  He should have been prosecuted and jailed.  He should have been banned from riding for 50 years.  He's a cu*t.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 10, 2014, 09:02:07 PM


And breathe.

Anyone got any thoughts on the new Tapeta track at wolves?  Does it suit US breds like polytrack?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 09:03:28 PM
In many respects the fact he owned up/stupid enough to get caught makes him somewhat better than the many others that do it, without us "knowing".

As stated earlier in the week, I watched the offending race, and if the same diligence was applied to many other rides on a daily basis, and jockeys put under some severe questioning about how hard they were trying, I suspect we wouldn't have that many jockeys left at the end of one week.

A shot across the bows was made and it didn't really make much difference in my humble.

I saw an interview with Ed Quigley in the week and agree that you can only win as a punter in this game, once you have served your dues, and start to understand how certain trainers "behave", and when their horses are likely to be trying, much of it just isn't in the form book. To do this requires the co-operation of the jockeys.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 09:06:33 PM

Are you boys ALL getting the lot?

Incred stuff, well done all.

Them poor bookies, I feel bad for them. When Marky is winning, things are really bad.


Broken clocks etc.  ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
Of course it happens a lot but unless you are the jockey involved you never know for sure whether it was stopped or something else happened. The fact he admitted it was key and its not a big stretch of anyone who watched a lot of racing in the period that it was his only race he played in. There are particularly tragic races involving Lynch, Eddie Ahern (now banned) and Mckeown (now banned) around Wolverhampton at this period.

Talking of Wolver....


Working on a big angle for tomorrow waiting for prices then will post when on...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 09:20:02 PM


And breathe.

Anyone got any thoughts on the new Tapeta track at wolves?  Does it suit US breds like polytrack?


Exciting new innovation.

Won't be having a bet until its clear there are no oddities etc. ie, only suits frontrunners/holdup/fast ground/soft ground horses etc


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 09:27:21 PM


And breathe.

Anyone got any thoughts on the new Tapeta track at wolves?  Does it suit US breds like polytrack?

Not so much so far...

However Dickinson has stated this is a new "grade" of Tapeta that has been laid at Wolver so existing patterns "could" be misleading. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 09:54:45 PM
Must have too many horses in my tracker, and should really clear it out...


15:15 Wol - Free Entry

Looking likely to be fave when they open, and obviously the new surface too, so will probably just chuck it in a tiny treble with the other 2.



16:00 Ayr - Karaka Jack

Had this one in my tracker for a while, but only started backing it again the last few times, and think Adz thought its time was near LTO.



16:30 Ayr - Tadalavil

Backed it a couple times when Adz put it up, including once at a nice price last year. Just looking through, I see it won at a big price last month, just after I got back from Vegas, and wasn't bothering to check my emails from ATR.

Looks like it's still in good form, and gets on well with the jockey, who claims 5.


Feedback from the wiser souls most welcome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
Karaka Jack will be interesting with Graham Lee up

Tadalavil been running consistently for a few races now, which is most unusual. Still well weighted on old form. Annoyingly Klynch is in the race, who I said to follow after the race at Carlisle last week. I shall split any bet here.

I put up Black Douglas last week, and although I thought that race was ideal, the opposition here looks equally poor and at 12-1 I shall go 1pt ew in the 5.00 at Ayr. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 11:20:28 PM
Douglas completes the Vegas chaser ;D

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 10, 2014, 11:21:16 PM
Quite a lot of rain on the West Coast today and its pelting down just now, just spoken to a friend who has driven up from Stranraer and said it was pelting down all the way up the road so would expect it to be very soft at Ayr romorrow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 01:43:06 AM
Quite a lot of rain on the West Coast today and its pelting down just now, just spoken to a friend who has driven up from Stranraer and said it was pelting down all the way up the road so would expect it to be very soft at Ayr romorrow.


Nice one, Mac.

The 2 I chucked up are pretty versatile, so hopefully it will affect others more than them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 02:32:49 PM
Really wanted to buy the distances at Wolver today, no spread accounts useable and cant find any fixed odds firms quotes

So have had a smaller bet on over 16.5 lengths at nearly 2/1 on betfair

Plenty of evidence out there that Tapeta means bigger winning distances lets hope that stays the way with this different grade.







Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 02:42:12 PM
pleasing start


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 02:47:25 PM
Really wanted to buy the distances at Wolver today, no spread accounts useable and cant find any fixed odds firms quotes

So have had a smaller bet on over 16.5 lengths at nearly 2/1 on betfair

Plenty of evidence out there that Tapeta means bigger winning distances lets hope that stays the way with this different grade.









Why would that be then John? Is there worse kickback? Cant see any other reason why that would be the case otherwise.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 02:56:03 PM
Really wanted to buy the distances at Wolver today, no spread accounts useable and cant find any fixed odds firms quotes

So have had a smaller bet on over 16.5 lengths at nearly 2/1 on betfair

Plenty of evidence out there that Tapeta means bigger winning distances lets hope that stays the way with this different grade.









Why would that be then John? Is there worse kickback? Cant see any other reason why that would be the case otherwise.

No there is generally less kickback if anything. Neither can i but two excellent writers on American racing have garnered the same opinion, their view seems to be that the times are very similar to Polytrack but the finishing distances are much more spread.

Personally if this an edge i will be looking to exploit it now before others realise it, if its a red herring then i do a few quid. There is also some evidence that the bigger field spread is more apparent early whilst the track is bedded in.

It should be noted that Tapeta can be "formed" to ride faster or slower much easier than Polytrack so it will be interesting to see if he has been round after the first with his tractor.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 03:14:06 PM
LOL, no 3lb penalties at Wolves!

Should land your bet no problem today mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 03:15:42 PM
Yes the two main hopes but 10 lengths already is a good start...

Just means i have to listen to Simon "all weather expert" Mupletoft all afternoon. Interviews the jockey after the first having won 6 lengths "What did you think of the surface?"

No shit Simon he liked it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 11, 2014, 03:24:05 PM

16:00 Ayr - Karaka Jack

Had this one in my tracker for a while, but only started backing it again the last few times, and think Adz thought its time was near LTO.

Feedback from the wiser souls most welcome.

Definitely not laying claim to the wiser soul bit, but Dark Crystal is starting to look a massive price @ 25-1 for a C@D winner that goes on the ground, been on the drift all day - does this just mean others who are better informed know its not her day today?

Although I thought it quite marginal I bet  Blue Sonic @ 9/2 in the 3.15 - which I now notice has also started to drift lol..   SORRY 3.30 AYR


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
Yes the two main hopes but 10 lengths already is a good start...

Just means i have to listen to Simon "all weather expert" Mupletoft all afternoon. Interviews the jockey after the first having won 6 lengths "What did you think of the surface?"

No shit Simon he liked it

I imagined you shouting at the screen as the last one coasted home 'keep riding'

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
Must have too many horses in my tracker, and should really clear it out...


15:15 Wol - Free Entry

Looking likely to be fave when they open, and obviously the new surface too, so will probably just chuck it in a tiny treble with the other 2.


Looks like it's going to be one of those, who struggles to get its nose in front.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
You can almost hear Gordie tutting as his acknowledges the money for the Fergal horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 11, 2014, 03:58:57 PM

Although I thought it quite marginal I bet  Blue Sonic @ 9/2 in the 3.15 - which I now notice has also started to drift lol..   SORRY 3.30 AYR

Wow, some drift, as soon as my money went on it shot out to 8-1 and finished last


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 04:05:24 PM
You can almost hear Gordie tutting as his acknowledges the money for the Fergal horse.

LOL!

Saw that go 10/1 - 7/2 in about 5 minutes :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 11, 2014, 04:05:59 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 11, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 04:17:40 PM
That's cheating!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 04:26:29 PM
LOL, talking of which if I had to say which was the dirty ride Graham Lee then or Fergal Lynch on his banned ride, I bet Lee has pushed his way to the bar more vigorously.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 04:30:13 PM
Started moving once we'd run out of track...

What's Chompy up to?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 04:46:56 PM
Havent seen race but K Jack not great on ground with any soft in it generally?

18 lengths at Wolver with 2 heats left

Oh for a spread account


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 04:51:31 PM
I think you have to watch the race. He acted perfectly well on soft running on well when the race was won.

Be interesting to see how hards Mr Lee rides them out next couple!

Chompy suggested we back front runners at Wolves seconds before a hold up horse won.

Seemed the sort of thing we could all have a good chuckle about, but I think he has a reputation to maintain ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 11, 2014, 04:54:22 PM
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:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 04:56:57 PM
OiOiOiOi


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 11, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
Boom. how easy was that.  WD lads. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 11, 2014, 05:00:20 PM
You da man Adz, gets me out of trouble every time - thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 05:02:00 PM
Christ routes em

nice one


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
I think you have to watch the race. He acted perfectly well on soft running on well when the race was won.

Be interesting to see how hards Mr Lee rides them out next couple!

Chompy suggested we back front runners at Wolves seconds before a hold up horse won.

Seemed the sort of thing we could all have a good chuckle about, but I think he has a reputation to maintain ;)

Yeah, horse looked to handle it fine, and has won on GtS before.

LOL - deleteaments

Nice one mate, and a shame Taladavil was running in the same race....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 05:04:59 PM