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Title: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
Hi am selling for the main event on behalf of my mum.

She currently crushes/pwns (whatever the in word is) the $5 and $10 sngs on full tilt, everyone knows how tough poker is now so it's obviously the equivalent of her smashing nosebleeds 10 years ago cos everyone was lol bad

Her live experience includes entering and winning a $75 10 person sng on a Royal Caribbean Cruise. Destroyed her poor opponent headsup

Her second cousins uncles brothers wife is a fortune teller so even a blind man could see clairvoyancy runs in the family so her live skills are top class and she reads peoples souls

She is capable of making pre flop raises and is an expert in continuation betting

It's the main event she has never played it but upon speaking to everyone in poker she tells me the average age is apparently 64, and most people surely have to be carried to their seats and propped up throughout so clearly this is a great buy as she is definitely not in that category

Selling 95% at 1.5-1 as expected

Currently 40%  left

Facebook (loves a share this fella) 25%
Anonymous (small but frequent buyer) 5%
Pm (can only assume means Pari Mutuel as never short of reddies) 15%
Barbara from down the road 10%


  

  


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: pokerfan on May 28, 2013, 07:39:58 PM
:D


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: EvilPie on May 28, 2013, 07:46:57 PM
Reserve 5% please.



Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: titaniumbean on May 28, 2013, 07:48:08 PM
sorry we need herbie mob and opr before we can fully get involved. so for now just reserve me 10 ta.


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: George2Loose on May 28, 2013, 07:53:53 PM
Disappointed this is not Dave mfking shallow selling shares


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Simon Galloway on May 28, 2013, 07:57:43 PM
Is this a business trip where she will be eating healthily, gym every day, no booze, bed by midnight?


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 07:58:36 PM
Btw Lb44- Not a dig at you as don't know, just bit of fun about poker as a whole

I might sell for main, if I do it will be sub 1.5 and will only be available to previous investors and there will be a max on % can buy per person. Giving back is the new taking


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 07:59:10 PM
Is this a business trip where she will be eating healthily, gym every day, no booze, bed by midnight?

She moved there 3 years ago so she could acclimatise


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: pokerfan on May 28, 2013, 08:02:56 PM
Is this a business trip where she will be eating healthily, gym every day, no booze, bed by midnight?

She moved there 3 years ago so she could acclimatise

A+

Save me a % pls.


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: the sicilian on May 28, 2013, 08:06:31 PM
If it had 3.7 I'd have some 1.5 way too cheap


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: George2Loose on May 28, 2013, 08:09:23 PM
Btw Lb44- Not a dig at you as don't know, just bit of fun about poker as a whole

I might sell for main, if I do it will be sub 1.5 and will only be available to previous investors and there will be a max on % can buy per person. Giving back is the new taking

Assume you'll be charging vig on any currency changes tho yeh?


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: EvilPie on May 28, 2013, 08:17:10 PM
Have to say this whole 1.5 thing has got out of control but if the buyers are there then fair enough.

I've looked at a couple and I just can't bring myself to flick it in even if they are "value". It just smacks of being greedy.

Stato's looks decent at 1.3 and Trigg's will be good whatever it is but 1.5 is just ridic for everyone other than Pete Wigglesworth.



Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: outragous76 on May 28, 2013, 08:22:46 PM
Interested if she has a vouch? Heard she is a degen in the bingo hall


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
Without a doubt a load of players are value at 1.5 in the main event including plenty of people that post on here and some that sold on here this and last year but I dislike generic market pricing, ie the last 4 people are charging 1.5 so il try that and also hate these assumptions- "Never been but Bob said its joke soft"

Table draws are massive on day 1. I had Bob Stupak on mine one year, we had to wait 3 hours to late reg in 06, Stupak was borderline senile at the time and the dealer had to read the board out to him everytime including suits, dealer was almost saying "The turn was the third heart Bob, the flush got there." Obviously I'd been in Vegas 7 weeks and the thought of sitting on this table any longer was too much, so snap busted. Another year had a past winner on it who stood up when they announced his name mid hand, started waving at non existent fans and forced himself into a picture with some old couple all whilst it was his turn to act. Utterly ridiculous and obviously after 6 weeks in Vegas this time I decided I wanted out of there again. Luckily older and wiser now


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: the sicilian on May 28, 2013, 08:38:16 PM
Have to say this whole 1.5 thing has got out of control but if the buyers are there then fair enough.

I've looked at a couple and I just can't bring myself to flick it in even if they are "value". It just smacks of being greedy.

Stato's looks decent at 1.3 and Trigg's will be good whatever it is but 1.5 is just ridic for everyone other than Pete Wigglesworth.



Agreed ...we probably do similar staking but when people are pretty much asking to free roll the main event it is a tad annoying


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: titaniumbean on May 28, 2013, 08:43:10 PM
if someone can afford to have a chunk of themself then a large markup is fine, when they are selling a massive chunk and also want a large markup without being one of about 3 people then they can gtfo.

it's funny that the worse the economy has got and the higher the variance/lower the winrates the higher the markups there are that are coming out. all backed up by the fact no one will ever know true w/r and that they are constantly changing.


if I feel someone is intentionally trying to offer a good value stake then I am infinitely more likely to invest.



so do I have this 10% of your mother dubai?



edit obv table draws are a part of the variance, and they can be so tilting, managed to get myself, mike ellis and 7 other 2+2 ers on day 2 of the main, it was such a farking joke.  main discussion was of a 2+2 thread regarding 4 and 5 bet ranges. and the only hand that really went down of note was a collosal multi way squeezed pot to the turn, with the river getting heroed by Q4 or something ridic who just so happened to have been the squeezer too.


another table move I got was to a table where after I raised and won the first 5 pots, they all just essentially looked at me like 'ok just do what you gotta do we all want to cash' and I chipped up 3x stack with only 2 small showdowns, it was incred.

just before that table though I had managed to pay sb, pay bb move table to sb so pay sb then bb again move table to utg and so was blinds 6 out of 7 hands in a row in the main with a 30bb stack. I mean come on you twatties!! rofl


right expect my main event thread at 47.5 to be up soon :)


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 08:44:01 PM
I'm not sure the buyers are there either. I've never played either but always assumed rightly or wrongly that Alex and Mitch are around the same level, Alex sold out quicker than Mitch so either everyone thinks he is better or it's a case of he sold before him therefore taking up a decent amount of the funds out there for staking on here. I'd assume the latter and would be interested in both their opinions etc


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: titaniumbean on May 28, 2013, 08:50:03 PM
partially the latter, partially just results orientated fishyness of the poker world


remove the monte carlo scores and likelihood is it would sell out slower than mitchellina.


the main is such a big outlay as it is, to then have half the buyin again on top of each stake because of markup just takes so much out of the staking economy.


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: millidonk on May 28, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
Main event shares poem.

Once upon a time,
I was due mad dime

So, I went on the web
and put up a thread

A stake thread I penned
for the twenty 13 main event

They said you're a boss playing live,
so charge a markup of one point five

I sold out in seconds,
now the sin city beckons

I hope we run deep,
as the markup was steep

if not I will say,
meh, ran bad on the day

hope the buyer doesn't feel like a sucker,
while im balls deep in this hooker,
thinking about what could have been..
GO TEAM.

So badly wanted to use variance but fuck all rhymes with variance.

Don't take it to heart,
it was only a joke
truth be told, i'm just broke :(


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 08:56:18 PM
Was assuming both were pretty decent btw and would say both fine at 1.5 in ME, but yeah not sure resources are out there on here to support multiple main event threads. Will cancel my $111k one drop thread as planned


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
Main event shares poem.

Once upon a time,
I was due mad dime

So, I went on the web
and put up a thread

A stake thread I penned
for the twenty 13 main event

They said you're a boss playing live,
so charge a markup of one point five

I sold out in seconds,
now the sin city beckons

I hope we run deep,
as the markup was steep

if not I will say,
meh, ran bad on the day

hope the buyer doesn't feel like a sucker,
while im balls deep in this hooker,
thinking about what could have been..
GO TEAM.

So badly wanted to use variance but fuck all rhymes with variance.

Don't take it to heart,
it was only a joke
truth be told, i'm just broke :(

Haha quality


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: titaniumbean on May 28, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
loved the variance line I thought the next line was going to rhyme with it lol.


this discussion is not based upon a singular thread, more upon the theme of everyone just copying this mu number and rofling about assuming that everyone deserves to sell out at that figure.


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: LonOhRay on May 28, 2013, 09:54:47 PM
So good, posts too


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: The Camel on May 28, 2013, 11:16:25 PM
if someone can afford to have a chunk of themself then a large markup is fine, when they are selling a massive chunk and also want a large markup without being one of about 3 people then they can gtfo.

it's funny that the worse the economy has got and the higher the variance/lower the winrates the higher the markups there are that are coming out. all backed up by the fact no one will ever know true w/r and that they are constantly changing.


if I feel someone is intentionally trying to offer a good value stake then I am infinitely more likely to invest.



so do I have this 10% of your mother dubai?



edit obv table draws are a part of the variance, and they can be so tilting, managed to get myself, mike ellis and 7 other 2+2 ers on day 2 of the main, it was such a farking joke.  main discussion was of a 2+2 thread regarding 4 and 5 bet ranges. and the only hand that really went down of note was a collosal multi way squeezed pot to the turn, with the river getting heroed by Q4 or something ridic who just so happened to have been the squeezer too.


another table move I got was to a table where after I raised and won the first 5 pots, they all just essentially looked at me like 'ok just do what you gotta do we all want to cash' and I chipped up 3x stack with only 2 small showdowns, it was incred.

just before that table though I had managed to pay sb, pay bb move table to sb so pay sb then bb again move table to utg and so was blinds 6 out of 7 hands in a row in the main with a 30bb stack. I mean come on you twatties!! rofl


right expect my main event thread at 47.5 to be up soon :)

Dunno if if this is a veiled pop at me, feels like it is, maybe I'm just paranoid.

I made it clear I was only selling because I'm skint as I've ever been, just built a house and my bankroll is a fraction of what it used to be.

If I wasn't skint I wouldn't be selling, I would much rather swap (or buy) in the main event.

I think I'm value at 1.5 and in a normal year I'd buy a chunk of myself at that rate.

Just wait until you see my markup is going to be for the seniors!


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 11:19:32 PM
Older people are generally more paranoid :)


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: cambridgealex on May 28, 2013, 11:34:51 PM
It took mine 72 hours to sell out tbf so Mitch still has a few hours....

I think the main thing is that there's loads of people who have a budget for the world series and have spent theirs already and there's got to be a point where enough's enough.


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Dubai on May 28, 2013, 11:36:14 PM
Yeah exactly what I think. Snooze you lose unless you are offering something out of the ordinary


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: DMorgan on May 28, 2013, 11:44:30 PM

I think the main thing is that there's loads of people who have a budget for the world series and have spent theirs already and there's got to be a point where enough's enough.


Yeah definitely this


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: claypole on May 29, 2013, 01:35:08 AM

I think the main thing is that there's loads of people who have a budget for the world series and have spent theirs already and there's got to be a point where enough's enough.


Yeah definitely this

It's deffo this...I really want to take a piece of Mitch and Flushy in 5k but after referring to my records I have spent my budget. Been clicking buttons and not adding up outlay lol

And obv want my percent at 1.499999, for whatever % I can have if and when you fly out. Enjoy wedding at weekend, we were going to do races somewhere on Saturday was hoping you'd be free....


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Mitch on May 29, 2013, 02:29:20 AM
I'm not sure the buyers are there either. I've never played either but always assumed rightly or wrongly that Alex and Mitch are around the same level, Alex sold out quicker than Mitch so either everyone thinks he is better or it's a case of he sold before him therefore taking up a decent amount of the funds out there for staking on here. I'd assume the latter and would be interested in both their opinions etc

A lot of staking threads have gone up recently, and most of them are for quite big chunks of money over a short period of time. Its not like its a bunch of people selling 20% each for a £440 GPS, they have all been WSOP Main or package deals. There is obviously only so much money to go round, and that before people start investing it in taking pieces of other people.

The speed at which mine has sold has not been a problem at all, and there has been a steady stream of people buying since it went up. If it doesnt sell out, thats fine, ill be playing anyway so im not going to lose any sleep over it or anything.

I appreciate some peoples comments about the 1.5 mark up, and agree this is getting towards the top of what people can sell for and expect to sell out. I do however feel i'm entitled just as much as anybody else selling at this price to do so.

I also feel, as mentioned somewhere else, that the experience in these sorts of events is pretty huge. Ive traveled quite a lot of the last 3 years or so and played poker all around the world at various buy-ins, with some of the best players and obviously some of the worst. The WSOP can be a daunting experience and i think theres a pretty good chance less experienced players can get caught up in the moment a bit, especially with the amounts of money involved. This is also my 6th time in Vegas so im pretty used to everything, how the locals play, how to plan breaks, layout of the Rio etc. Personally i agree with what Flushy said in Keith's thread, about much rather having a piece in somebody whos been there before, used to the structure, doesn't tilt etc than a guy whos got a few big results but hasnt played those sort of events on a regular basis.


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: cambridgealex on May 29, 2013, 02:36:08 AM
Mitch, best send Liam a map of the Rio so he can get used to the layout in advance. Actually since I've only been twice before, perhaps a revision session would be good. Kthankx.


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: Mitch on May 29, 2013, 02:39:20 AM
Mitch, best send Liam a map of the Rio in advance so he can get used to the layout in advance. Actually since I've only been twice before, perhaps a revision session would be good. Kthankx.

This is quite important, took Stato ages to find the taxi rank after he bluffed em' off in level 3 last year. Id have no problem at all. Infact, id know to go via the food outlets without much delay to my journey. ;-)


Title: Re: Main event shares
Post by: LB44 on May 29, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Mitch, best send Liam a map of the Rio so he can get used to the layout in advance. Actually since I've only been twice before, perhaps a revision session would be good. Kthankx.

Haha that is my primary concern about tho whole trip ;)