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From Rob at http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/blog.php?profile=4&id=422

APOLOGIES

I looked at the Club web site and schedule for the coming weeks and it's BLANK! Sincere apologies that we have 'dropped the ball' a little in terms of updating our players on tournaments at the Club over summer - we do have plans to be in operation - honest! Of course, the ISPT has taken up all of our time - but we do need to get back to reality which means grass roots UK poker and getting the Club back on track - we cancelled the last 2 Deepstacks to focus on the ISPT which has lost us some momentum in a very competitive marketplace. Here is a quick update of whats going on, full details will be released next week, but after speaking with Simon earlier today, we felt it was important to get the word out ASAP.

£100 DEEPSTACKS EVERY WEEKEND OVER SUMMER

Last year, over the WSOP and summer holiday period, we did a series of back to back £150 + £18 Deepstack's, each with a £50,000 GTE - these were successful and we are going to repeat this over the coming weeks. However, many of our players have recently 'invested' chuncks of their poker bankrolls in the ISPT satellites and Day 1's, so we have decided to reduce the buy-in to £100 + £15, but still keep the GTE's at £50,000. This back to back series of deepstack tournaments proved very popular last year with players unable to make the trip over to Vegas getting a regular poker fix for a reasobale price.

 
DATES

Monday 17th June Online Day 1a 8.30pm

Tuesday 18th June Online Day 1b 8.30pm

Friday 21st June Live Day 1c 7.00pm

Saturday 22nd June Live Day 1d 5.00pm

Sunday 23rd June Live Day 2 2.00pm

(online satellites will start Sunday 16th June)

 

FORMAT

30,000 starting chips

Live Day 1's will have a 30 min clock

Online Day 1's will have a 12 min clock

Players will play down to 10% of the field for each Day 1

(The 10% of players making Day 2 will be rounded down, for example, with 104 players, 10 will make Day 2 and 4 players will receive their £100 + £15 buy-in back - same as the ISPT Day 1's)

Day 2 will have a 40 minute clock with blinds starting at 3000-6000, approximately 50BB average

All players will who make Day 2 will be in the money, the min cash will be £300

RE-ENTRY

Players can re-enter into any future Day 1's

There is no forfeit rule for playing multiple Day 1's, players can qualify through multiple Day 1's and their chip stacks will be merged together into their starting stack for Day 2

(example: player enters Monday's Online Day 1a and finishes in top 10% of field with 100,000 chips, he plays Saturday Day 1d and makes it through with 225,000 chips, his starting stack on Day 2 will be 325,000)

 

BACKGROUND INFO

Following requests from our club players, we have decided to experiment with running the Online Day 1's on Monday and Tuesday when the club is shut so that everyone has the same opportunuites to play, as you would expect, these are naturally our two busiest online days.

Allowing players to 'merge their stacks' from Day 1's may reduce 'shoving with any 2' when a player prefers to re-enter rather than take the stack through. The odds of making it through two Day 1's when only 10% of the field make Day 2 are small, therefore this has presented us with the opportunity to trial this variation of the re-entry rule.

Last Summer we ran 5 of these Deepstack's back to back, if they proves popular we could potentially run £100 Deepstacks up until the August Monthly Deepstack, when we hope to be back with a bang after the inevitable Summer downturn caused by holidays and the WSOP.

I hope to make an annoucement soon about the UK Poker Championships, which will hopefully be the biggest event that DTD has ever held at the Club and something we have intended to do since we opened.

If you have time, please could you spread the word about these £100 Deepstacks, Nicola is off till the 18th of June and we have a few other staff missing over the next couple of weeks, so any help is appreciated.

Cheers Rob

Wow I'm not sure that will be popular.

Wow.

Edit: I mean the merged stacks.

Biiiigggrrrrr prize pools tho

I'm glad someone finally posted, but how is this really helping people who are losing chunks when you are encouraging multi buyin, etc?

Also will there be no £300 in July?

Also wondering about chip leader which someone said that it would be back?

I can see the attraction - this will get the £300 crowd to play all the days.

For people like me though, who might have 1 or 2 shots, the merging of stacks really puts me off. I'm at a massive disadvantage because I cant buy in 4 times, even if its unlikely that I would make the last 10% 4 times in a row.

Be interesting to see exactly how many people play all 4 days and how many of those merge stacks though...

I'd like the idea of not having to forfeit a stack if you play a subsequent day 1,but not sure about the merging idea. Discriminates against those doing only one buyin and also confuses a simple format.

In fact, allowing people to play a subsequent day 1 even if the stacks weren't merged still gives a significant advantage to those with bigger pockets, as they can abuse others near the bubble with impunity trying to bolster their stack whilst others are struggling to reach day 2.

It'll certainly be interesting. It should definitely get people playing multiple satellites for it as a second bullet is more valuable than usual.

Merging stacks just plays into the hands of those that are better rolled and puts me off immensely. Why not do 'best stack'. So anyone can have a run at the three day ones and their best stack is carried forward. Surely that allows the punters to not feel like they are too disadvantaged, should increase dead money in the prize pool and allows that ballas to spunk off 300 trying to spin up a stack

Loved it loved it loved it right up till I saw the bit about 10% and stack merging and that was it put me right off.

DTD are starting to right off the boil at the mo  I mean what with the turbo rule people were talking about and now all 2+day comps looking like the stuped 10% ISPT rule is going to be played on them. I for one won't be playing something would normally have played

typed a whole lot. But effectively THIS. .. merging the stacks completely puts me off. .. best stack carrying forward makes more sense imo. Anyway I will give a shot at this......

I've never been a fan of multiple-entry tourneys and stack-merging online.

I'm even less of a fan of this format in live play.

I know it's important to keep pushing boundaries and to challenge received wisdoms & conventions.

However, my considered verdict on this stack merging concept - pretty stupid- just keep poker simple and fair.

There are a zillion players playing mass runner events all over Vegas at the moment. I 'd be pretty surprised if a single one is based on such a nonsensical concept as this.

Oh just noticed the 10% thing as well - very silly idea too.

In the spirit of trying to help - you guys seem to be trying stuff just to be trying stuff and without properly thinking things through from a customer view point. It's important to lead customers sometimes as they often don't know what they want until it's provided. That said, I can't believe there is any significant constituency that wants this. Even if it works, I'll still be right that it's bad for poker and bad for poker players if only because it just isn't fair to all players

not forfeiting stack to try for bigger one is good idea, but merging stacks is a bad idea, it will put more people off than attract people i think

on a positive note, i think the buyin is great and allows more players to play a tourney that has a proper structure to it :)

30k stack too much. Make it a 5k turbo 50k gte one time

Meant 5k stack not buy in!

Hi

I'll answer a few of these as I blogged these tournies and Simon is on the road. He has read the comments on FB and on here.

Players voiced concerns when we allowed players to forfeit their stack and play again - not one single player has ever forfeited a stack to play another Day 1 - even on a £50 Grand Prix.

On average, to get through 2 consecutive day 1's is 100-1 chance (10% x 10%), so merging is very unlikely to be honest, but it may stop players dumping off their short stack to re-enter and therefore skewing the dynamics of the game in the later levels.

Players are a lot more careful about spending an extra bullet when they don't have to and have already made Day 2. Even if the average player qualifies through Day 1a, and plays all 3 further Day 1's, the player only has around a 30% chance of merging his stack, how many players will do that - hardly any is the answer.

How many player will play Day 1a? - 80 ish, that's 8 players going through to Day 2, in the scheme of things, when only 10% make Day 2 - giving players the option to merge will make very little difference except to not force players to try and dump off to re-enter.

I believe this is a player friendly format - even if player took 3 bullets, the min cash has been set at £300, players can play this event from home and therefore avoid hotel expenses, and on average 5 players from each Day 1 who just miss out on the 10% will receive their £115 buy-in back, so we are paying more like 14% of the field.

This £100 comp replaces are Super £50 + 1 on Friday and Incredible £100 + 1 on Saturday, where players spent an average of £250 for a £27.5K prizepool, having 2 bullets at this for a £50K prizepool and still spend less money.

If anything about this format doesn't work, it's very easy to make changes. We don't come up with these ideas for the sake of it, many times we end up being copied and not just in the UK, and we are quick to change things that don't work, its a one-off series of Deepstack events over the summer period which gives us the opportunity to try a few things, I have always wanted to try "everyone in the money on Day 2" because DTD is a unique venue in that 80% of it's weekend players travel 60+ miles, even at the £100 level, I know its something Simon really likes the idea of.
 

Cheers Rob

I like it.

Will online qualifiers get paid on the night ?

Can use a  1a cash to play 1b that way.

^. What rob said very unlikely for stack merging to happen anyway so whoever tries is most likely adding to the prize pool without adding to their stack


I'd love a one day 100-300 with big guaranteed prize pool like George said one of the weekends, monthly £50k turbo or similar

Why cant we have fixed day 1 levels instead of 10%field going through?

Because this way all day 2 players have cashed.

So

A button on your head :D

I agree that not many people will use the merging idea.

I think it's only those who've made day two with a bowl that might try. It's really not going to make a difference, except to peoples perception of the event, which I guess is pretty crucial, so perhaps need to ram that home. Perhaps give people reasons why it's bad use of that £100 second bullet when you already have 200k in the bag for day 2, because any extra chips you accumulate aren't worth nearly as much as the first lot.

I'm a bit of a deepstack mincash pro so I like the 3x buyin mincash change.

One thing I don't understand - and this seems to be the main reason behind the merging concept - why people were complaining that people with short stacks were trying to dump them off near the end of day 1??

Changing the dynamics of the last level my arse! People playing badly and shoving any two is a GOOD THING! Yes it's not great when their 72 hits against your AK blah blah blah, but it's presenting you will many more profitable situations than before, why do people want to remove that?!

Definitely like the idea of 10% of field going through, like the ISPT, that was a really fun bubble!

It's great news for someone like you Adrian

You can play Online Monday and or Tuesday and travel up from Bedfordshire/Hertfordshire on Sunday knowing you are guaranteed £300

So you save the hotel expenses of hotels on Fri/Sat and your net profit is higher.....with the min cash 3x a single £100 buy in anyway

Yes

this

There were people who had 7-8 day one ISPT bullets and didn't make Wembley

Assuming no particular edge you are a 10% shot to make it through 1a. If you do that and have another go you are 10% shot to get a stack to take through from 1b

For the vast majority of players attempting to stack merge they are building the prize pool for the guys wanting to hit Sunday on a single bullet.

I expect almost nobody, but we can look at this information and publish it on here. For a Grand Prix when we have 6 Day one's with a huge return for your money for £50, the average entries is always about 1.4, you will be surprised at how many players only take 1 bullet. Nicola tells me that we have never had a single person forfeit a stack either, we are finding players talk a lot about playing mutliple days but if effect, the benefit of mutliple day ones is that you hit more unique players.

So presumably this means that if you manage to qualify three stacks (unlikely I know) you will get paid three min-cashes before the stacks are merged.

No, 1 min cash per person Ralph, although you could argue that a player finishes in the top 10% in 3 out of 4 day ones deserves a medal!

If so few people do it/will do it - why create the possibility of an uneven playing field to cater for so few people. I don't really understand that conceptually

It will mean that no player who wants to re-enter, chooses to dump his short stack intentionally - live or online.

I don't agree with your statement that we are creating an uneven playing field, this is not a re-buy event where you can just buy more chips for cash, you have to finish in the top 10% of a day one before you can even consider playing another day one to merge your stack, anyone that has the ability to take advantage of merging stacks on a regular basis must be one hell of a player, and if they are just lucky, will probably get found out on Day 2, with a 40 minute clock, 50 bb's average and the WSOP structure. Maybe one of the online math's guys can work out what the advantage is to a player with deeper pockets in this format? Let's assume a player gets through all 4 x day ones, i think this is a 0.01% chance, the player still only gets a 300 min cash and has invested 460, playing another day 1 is most probably an option for a travelling player that ends up short and can justify another day one to increase their stack, as previously said, its an easy change if players don't like it and no halm will have been done

Lot of hysteria ITT. Let those with deeper pockets boost the prize pool, I reckon less than 5 people will have merged stacks on Day 2.

Are there plans for any feeders online to the day ones?

Yes, full online feeder and sat program from next sunday, earlier if nick can arrange with ipoker

I'll take five and over Simon for a friendly £20.

Since 10% of the first online day one will have been paid out with their £300 min-cash they will effectively be freerolling subsequent days one therefore by the third online day one it is not inconceivable that 25% of the field will already have stacks, unless I'm figuring this wrong of course.

Thanks for taking time to explain and I do understand your points. The explanation, I think, demonstrates my basic point though, you are catering for a tiny number and even if it's fractional - it is an uneven playing field.

I didn't like re-entries from a conceptual perspective at first but I came round to that as a good idea. fwiw, I like the 10% thing less as it kinda makes day 1s satellites rather than the continuum that is normal tournament poker

One possible positive I think is that it's likely to drive more and more online traffic for these kinds of events

Suck it and see I guess

Booked Ralph. Even money yes :)

forgive me if my maths is wrong. assume 300 entries from mon, tue and friday, that's 30 players through to Day 2. If those 30 players ALL decided to travel up to Nottingham on saturday (not going to happen - remember 80% of our players live 60 miles away) to play day sat 1d, assume saturday day 1d's is a 200 runner field, add these 30 players the total day 1d field of now 230, 23 players make it to day 2 from day 1d, on average 3 of the 30 day 2 players will be merging stacks (plus any from day 1b and day 1c, which obviously will be less)?

looks like 5 players is about the betting line then, oh, Ralph - you meant the other Simon! LOL , had my calculator out for £20!

here is a comment on my facebook, that kind of sums up what we are trying to do here


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Mark Cullumbine I think the format is great its an exciting twist having the potential to add to your day 2 stack if you have made it thru short. The guarantee is massive for a £100 comp and I like the online day1's on mon & tue. Also knowing you are already in the money if you have to travel to the club for day 2 is a bonus. Well done Rob and Simon always trying new things and trying to improve!! I will spread the word!
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Hi Simon,

Can you give us a quick snapshot off the feeders for this.

Thanks.

Nicola is away on holiday so I am speaking to IT tomorrow to get them set up, on web site etc. At the latest they will start sunday 16th

Every night - £3 FO feeders into £15 FO Sat to win a £100+£15 Day 1 token, 8.30pm and 9.30pm

Will also probably add a last chance 7pm £5 RB last chance sat on Mon and Tue before the Online Day 1's and also maybe a 7.45pm £15 hyper-turbo

So plenty of chances to qualify cheap, if players want, we could do £1 RB feeders to make it even cheaper but the £3 FO feeders play better

Thanks.

I like it. The effect of boosting the prize pool by well rolled players will far exceed any competitive advantage they gain, simply due to the mathematical odds of them finishing in the top 10% more than once being so slim. If anything, it plays on the ego of players who overestimate their advantage over the rest of the field! Trial it and see what happens i say

I dont understand people disliking the 10% rule.

The only thing that worries me is there could be an issue...Player 1 plays online and lives alone in Scotland. He plays the Tuesday Day 1b and qualifies. DTD pay £300 into his account. He can't cash out the £300 in time to pay for his travel and can't get there as he doesnt have any cash and his cashout hasnt arrived in time.

Player 1 should have thought about that before he played on Tuesday.

You can play Online Monday and or Tuesday and travel up from London on Sunday knowing you are guaranteed £300

So you save the hotel expenses of hotels on Fri/Sat and your net profit is higher.....with the min cash 3x a single £100 buy in anyway


like this!

The idea is pretty damn good in all regards, 10% meaning day 2 is a cash makes traveling so easy. This idea of merging stacks is great for those who do qualify short (which is the intention lets not forget)...this argument about it being an un-even playing field is just crazy, at the end of the day people pissed when it came to re-buy's...then re-entry's...then reloads! people dislike change regardless and the argument for this just doesn't stand up...so few people are going to actually be able to pull it off (i reckon about 5 mergers, one will have merged 3 times, but thats a guess)...you're moaning because someone with bigger pockets and (clearly) more skill has managed to pull two day ones...hate to break it to you but think of it this way:-

1. If more people try this with the idea of coming back with a monster stack and fail...you wont bat an eyelid at the extra £100/£200/£300 they just added to the prizepool (moan until it benefits you type job)
2. If they were lucky to do it, you wont mind because he is going to become a chip dump machine and if you have more skill his luck WILL run out and you will gain those chips, bringing you back to point 1 (unless jamie gold turns up)
3. If they were good enough to navigate two or more day one's...sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it was NEVER a level playing field anyway because they are likely better than you!

I do understand the argument about "im not that rolled, i dont have 3/4 bullets in the bag" because im in that situation myself...but think of it this way. You couldn't afford the re-entry...moaned but then carried on playing. You couldn't afford the reload which effectively doubled the buyin...moaned but then carried on playing. If you are still reading this you clearly carried on playing through two changes that were FAR BIGGER impacts than this will be...and if you didnt carry on playing then you either aren't reading this OR are just pissing for pissing's sake.


The idea is good, it will boost prizepools, it gives an incentive to get more than the "9 big blinds you got stuck with", poker was never a level playing field anyway, you've been through worse changes with regards to bankroll and skill differentials...and at the end of the day two months down the line if they changed ALL the deepstacks to this format you would suck it up anyway...quit moaning, it's far smaller an impact than you think, and will likely just boost a prizepool you're interest in winning...so yeah.

(as a note, the ONLY gripe i have is paying the min cash into peoples online accounts, just pay them on the day...otherwise adam's point of "it wont clear in time" could pose an issue)

Player 1 therefore won't play ldo.

What my point is - is there a way DTD can arrange for payouts to hit people's BANK accounts before the Saturday (banking days obv) so that they can travel if they are indeed skinto? That's what worries me about people not wanting to play because of the costs of travel...

What I dont like about the merging is that is favours people who live closer to DTD as its easier for them to play the live day 1s and therefore easier for them to merge a stack.

Id like to see the live and online day 1s on the same day at the same time

without trying to sound too harsh...what is the maximum cost of someone travelling to DTD for a 1 day event (if you get through online). If they can't afford that then why are they playing a £100 buy in tournament in the first place?

surely all this talk of the money not clearing in time is complete shite...what poker tournament ever pays out before you are eliminated anyway so are they saying if this was a normal tourney they wouldn't turn up for day two???  really?

Not keen on the concept of merging stacks but it's not going to happen often enough to be an issue and frankly, given the rest of the package that has been put together here I'd accept a rule that says that Day 2 players have to wear gimp masks and communicate all actions using a Stephen Hawking voice simulator.


Bring on the satellites and let's get this happening.

Guys,

Just read these latest comments, to be clear;

The £300 min cash (or better) is paid on Day 2 at the Club, just like any Day 2 (its just a 3 x min cash instead of a 2 x min cash)

It's the £115 Day 1 players who miss out on the 10% that get that paid on the same day ie. say we get 125 players, 12 go through to Day 2 and places 13-17 get £115 the same day - online players get the £115 online and live players get the £115 at the club (13.6% of field being paid in this example)

Not sure if there have been some crossed wires somewhere but just read Ice Shade's post and he mentions this.

Cheers Rob

Cheers Rob, thanks for clarification. Must have been crossed wires!

Rob - think people have misinterpreted this post chain!

Absolutely loving the look of these.

For those of us living a good distance from DTD, the ability to have a min cash locked up before travelling for what is effectively a one day tournament is simply brilliant.

Not sure why anyone would want to criticise the merging of stacks.  There is only a slim chance that this will happen, and the chances are it would be a shortstack + an average stack anyway, so hardly giving anyone a huge advantage, but still increasing the prizepool, which is already guaranteed at a decent level anyway.

Any initiative that attracts more players to visit the club has got to be a good thing.  Fingers crossed I can make it a 'Summer of Sundays at Dusk Till Dawn' *



* This may not just require being lucky at poker, but also getting enough 'passes' from home   ;D

I think the 10% rule is the best way forward. If you make day 2 then you know you have cashed, and now its 3x the buy in for a min cash which is more appealing for travelling players imo.

IN

Merging stacks from multiple day 1s has been tried and is v popular in Australia (they call them accumulators).

Well no not really as I'm not an online player and have always been happy with the fact that I have to book a room for the as I could make day two just by being alive at the end of Saturday night. If I was short then I was like ' ok I have work tod tomorrow but I'm still in it' with the 10% I would have traveled up, booked and spent out on a room for the night and played all night to get told that 'nope sorry you still have a stack but its not in the top 10% over all'. That would be like a big F$&K you to someone like me.

Yes the 10% is good for online players but not for traveling weekend players we are there let us play. You my be giving me back my money but not for my room are you going to cover that as well.

Personally I didnt like the stack forfeit rule, and I dont really like the accumulator rule. To me its simple, you can have as many bullets as you like, and you take your best stack through to day 2.

Neither the forfeit or accumulator rules put me off though, and dont really affect me too much at all.

Love the look of the tourney, will defo be down to play it

This doesn't make sense

Come up on the Saturday and if you don't make it through go home same night (no need to book a hotel in advance, people always book them late on Saturday at the club) or stay play whatever you want at DTD on the Sunday (sure there will be a second event on the Sunday)

don't think you understand the concept. If there were 100 in day 1 at club top 10 go thru, ie 10% If you still had a stack you go through!

poker monkey


they play down to the last 10%...they don't stop play and only let the top 10% go through.

eg  200 players...play stops when 20 players are left irrespective of how long it takes level wise...it could be different on different days

hope this helps

Feeling exactly the same .. lol.. But already started doing the ground work this afternoon washing the dishes without even being asked. How about that for being proactive???

Rofl ^ I would never have imagined your mind was capable of such an 'interesting' concept David.  :o I'm keen on this new torn as I was a bit tired of the one day iancredible 200. Keep bringing on the new ideas, at the end of the day trial and error is the way forward,we're lucky that we get different concepts put forward for us to feast on. Here's looking forward to the next chip leader also.

Fair yeah sorry for that, deffo misunderstood somewhere down the line :-)

I like it all tbf. Hope I have a few free wknds to play them. my only hope would be that the online Day 1s don't finish too late on school nights. Start them at 7 maybe? 30k 12mins sounds like it could be a pretty late finish.

So it's not a 2day comp because all 4 day 1's will (or could) end at different levels as such day 2 will start at a set amount of bb's of the avg stack.

Not at 2+day comp but two different comps on is a £100 sat in to a comp were you get payed as soon as u sit

That's one way to look at it

But it is a 2 day comp with blinds starting at 3/6K on day 2 and every player carrying their stacks through

From reading the previous posts the theory behind paying every day two player makes perfect sense

Been to a day 2 before short stacked and not in the money - 1 hour to get there, 4 hands and ten minutes of play, JJ busted by Q10 and home again out of the money - not much fun

fyp

(I scaled back the range of my imagination for that post btw)

£1k buyin to Day 2 with average stack? :D

Or £1k - min cash + rake

This please!

Please please!

the hendon mob joke of but how much did ou lose would really be great then,.

I hope you are joking, very different comp. average stack will be just over 50bb and 1st prize will be around £12,500

The expected finish time for Online Day 1's is 11.30pm - 11.45pm, 8.30pm start with late reg is till 9.35pm

Absolutely perfect if that's the case. Think that will please a lot us working recs. Tks.

Well it was kind of tongue in cheek, though 50bb wouldn't be a problem for the people who wanted to do it. I don't think first prize would be either, you only get 14* your buy-in for a 45-man tourney on Stars. Is £12,500 based on 50 players? 12500/700 = ~18. The problem would only really be the disparity between the entry fee actual money and what the average stack would be worth ICM wise.

Was sort of alluding to it could be cool if you did a Grand Prix with the ISPT format one day.

^^^+1  Love the idea, something to look forward to on a weekly basis till the fessies start up again after Vegas -- Personally, I would like to see on-line qualifiers Monday through til Friday.

I'm loving this tournament and I can relate to but can't understand all the hysteria about the merged stacks.
I hated the initial idea of online days in the £300/£500 deep stacks and was worried about the disproportionate stacks, we proved to be a factor when Ben Vinson made it thru to the first day 2 with an uber stack in comparison to the live day 1 qualifiers, he made final table from this advantageous position, which understandably a player of his calibre shuould consolidate. I turned up at the club with a friend Becky from The Blue Blood team who had a backer and both were oblivious to the previous live day 1's. Both myself and Becky spoke with Simon at the club, about our concerns, and then at length with Rob, I ended up playing the event, Becky and her backer decided to withdraw on principle. The key point here is Simon has vast experience in running live events and can pinpoint a finish time depending on the structure within 15 minutes. Rob trusts his judgement. Simon and Rob promised the starting stacks and clock would be looked in great depth

They were true to their word and the following deepstacks the stacks from live and online days were much much closer.

This process was pivotal to the up and coming ISPT online feeders and qualifiers so I now understand the logic and introduction of the online deepstack day 1s

Only one of our team made day 2 of the ISPT From an online Day 1, he made it thru for €60 and min cashed in the live event, his first ever Hendon mob flag, so he was over the moon to play at Wembley and return a profit.

Reading the posts of both Rob and Simon, from experience, not just a thought, they have proof that no stacks were forfeited in either the GP or the  ISPT, so why would you put in place a tournament with the same option, not logical!

There will be players who play every live day online and live and will merge several stacks on several occasions I'm sure, boost that prize pool :). For the smaller player a chance to play a £50k Guarantee and win 3x your money plus the chance to win £15-£20k for a relatively small buy in, shud be an incentive enough.

I trust Simon and Rob to tweak things accordingly with the information they gain from the first couple, this could then turn out to be a phenomenal success.

I shall be playing these alongside my plans to play GUKPTs this summer and shud I make day 2, and free roll for a chance to win the same as a £50k GUKPT guaranteed event £550 buy in, it is a no brainier to cancel my plans to travel to Walsall, Brighton, Coventry and travel to DTD instead

Hi every1, Well done Rob, simon & DTD team for once again trying something abit different & pushing the boundrys further. Personally i think this idea will catch on & be a good success.
          So get behind DTD & give this concept ago, as Rob says if things dont workout he will make changes. Comon give DTD a break ;0)

I'm gonna have some free time and it's been ages since i've been to DTD so definitely gonna make a couple of trips down for these :)

I may have missed the dates, and I know it says "all summer" but can someone confirm they're running 19th-21st, and 26th-28th July please?

If they prove successful in June, that is the intention

Cheers :)

So what days have been confirmed then for this so far

from op

Monday 17th June Online Day 1a 8.30pm

Tuesday 18th June Online Day 1b 8.30pm

Friday 21st June Live Day 1c 7.00pm

Saturday 22nd June Live Day 1d 5.00pm

Sunday 23rd June Live Day 2 2.00pm

(online satellites will start Sunday 16th June)

 

We plan to run then weekly over the Summer up until the August Monthly Deepstack, starting next week. But obviously it will depend on popularity.

another UKIPT event in DTD or it will be something different?

1 mill £ for first ?

How soon is soon?

It is something different.

 ;kev; Ahrt

Yeh I realised just excited to know. Will v likely cOme over.

Set up for these looks fantastic. The merging stacks idea is fantastic when combined with a guaranteed 3x cash on day 2, leaving players basically freerolling on two entries if they make it through the first or second day 1. This may convince even me to take a shot at an online day (defo not an internet kid). Fantastic concept, will be interesting to see how many people take this up. Will certainly see everyone there!

Hi All

Thanks for all the feedback.

I think this event ticks all the boxes and will prove very popular, please help spread the word.

Cheers

Aces

Hi Simon,  do you not think there would be enough interest with on-line day one's on the Wednesday and Thursday nights as well...esp if you had a rake of sat feeders into the day 1's... Just think the more day one's, the bigger the prizepool?

Weds & Thurs online would be abs ideal.

Hi steve, if there is demand of course we can look at this, what is quite interesting is that there is not much crossover between days online, for example, when we do our  sats, players who play wednesdays are different to players who play mondays, there is some cross over, but not much (of course online has its regs just like the club), it seems like people have specific days for playing online due to work / personal committments. let's see how the first one goes, its very easy to make tweaks, if we get 50 runners in each online day obviously we wont have the liquidty and the event is not popular enough to progress to more online day 1's. i would think if we added extra day 1's  in any form we wouldhave to look at the buy-in/GTE/structure aswell, as more players the longer it takes on Day 2, which is scheduled for a midnight finish on sunday with 50 player through - so that people can go to work no problem on monday. the format is balanced about right now at 50k with 2 online and 2 live day 1's, we wont be a million miles off, cheers Aces

Couple of us making the trip down for the first one of these, really looking forward to it. Any informed guesses as to how many runners are anticipated on the Saturday?

I think 175 - 225 is the spread for Saturday

well I will be playing some off them don't know which yet lol

Thank you!

I can't play the first two of these but can play some satellites over the next week or so. Will the tokens be usable for any week's £100 or just for the next one?

All tokens (£15 Sat and £115 Day 1) are valid for 30 days - so you should be fine. Facebook Freeroll here on Sunday night as well David, 5 x £115 tokens  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=468419179917564&set=a.222388477853970.51168.100002484586086&type=1&theater

Cheers Aces

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As Simon says

Online Facebook Freeroll for everyone that shares this image on facebook

This Sunday night at 10pm, it will be in poker lobby in next day or so in £100 Deepstack tab

5 x £115 seats up for grabs

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Might be in for 4 bullets and play for the elusive stack merge!!!!!

The satellite programme is out for the first Summer Deepstack

£115 seats GTD, Online satellites start TONIGHT, players get win seats every night on dusktilldawnpoker.com from as little as £3,

So there running every weekend then

Is there gonna be mega sats last week before the tourney?

fyp :)

But this is a weekly competition so which would be the last week?

over wsop/summer period depending on success

it's a weekly tourney, we expect most players to DBI, online sats will qualify 60+ players each week

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (sorry if it has), but doesn't this change the whole dynamics of the tournament and give people an unfair advantage regarding if they get into day two early? Lets say John Smith gets into day two at first attempt & knows he has a min cash, then can obv spin again with profit.

Why would he have a profit? He's statistically a dog to get a merged stack and if you get in top 10% twice or more you only guaranteed one min cash.

£115 entry to Day1,
Min cash for making Day2 = £300
£115 entry to second Day1
£300-(£115+£115) = £70

It's kind of a freeroll at a bigger stack but as Rob pointed out earlier it's unlikely to be achieved. Think it's more likely that someone with a tiny Day2 stack would try to merge than someone with an average or big stack. Even if they do, the Chipleader tournaments both had players with monster stacks who failed to run deep.

I didn't like the idea of a risk-free second bullet but have come round to the idea that it isn't massively disadvantageous for those who aren't rolled to attempt it.

Although you mention £115 x 2, it could just see one player just attempt to get a second bullet via sats if already making day two.

Going to be interesting.

Not to mention that merging stacks is -£ev.  If players want to take more bullets to run up a stack, it only benefits the rest of the field.

The smurf bagged himself a seat from the £15 freezeout last night  ;karabiner;

A small feat but made me happy after nearly busting in 7th

Glad to see a fast clock wrapped it up by half ten for us early rise workers

Now just got to beat 90% of the field to make the money  ;whistle;

Any 'unfair advantage' due to merging stacks is by far outweighed by the 50 GTD prize pool for a £115 buy in.

As stated the number of players who go through with merged stacks will be small but the the prize pool should be boosted by those trying.

Is it WSOP structure all the way through apart from the clock?

Am I thinking this through the right way ?

To merge a stack you obv already need a stack, so the chances of doing so are 1 in 10.
Saying its a 1000-1 shot is wrong ?

Anyone who successfully merges is essentially putting an extra £400 in the prize pool.
The buyin + 1 min cash rule.

Get merging !

If we are playing down to 10%, no idea when the live day ones will finish?!

For easy maths...assume there was 100 runners every day and 10 % made it through from Day 1( 10 players ) then that would be a genuine 1 in 10 or a 9-1 chance

If the same number made it through the next day (from 100 runners) and the same  player was lucky enough to be in that 10 then his odds  of merging his stack would be 99-1 

If the same number made it through to the next day and the same player was luck enough to make it  yet again then the odds would be 999-1  etc etc

Variables in the odds will occur when this isnt an exact 10%  (ie 101 to 109 runners )

So in answer to your question 3 merged stacks will be approx 1000 -1  (unless there are any other factors)

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If adding to your stack is a -£ev why do so many people have add ons when available?  I'll be playing cause £50k guarantee for £100 is good value but I'm not so keen on the idea that players can merge stacks.  ;popcorn;

The reality is that very few people will have stacks merged..... most of the high rollers will be playing away in the wsop so I dot think grass root players should worry to much.

Add on's are completely different altogether.  Buying an add on increases your chances of making the money and will reduce variance vs people who don't take the add on.  Also, adding on usually gets you more chips for the same money as the buy in.

Merging stacks is something completly different all together in this scenario.  When you start playing with a 2nd stack you're putting a buy in back into the prizepool without any expectation of a return on the money whatsoever as even when you do min cash again, you don't get anything for it.  Further, the actual process of merging stacks is -£ev as you only have one shot at winning first place in that tournament.  If you had both stacks in different tournaments your max potential return would be £25k, whereas in this scenario we can only win £12.5k max.

Although you do increase your chances of running deeper in the tournament, the value is much less than if you bought in to seperate tournaments.

Also worth pointing out that merging a stack is effectively costing you £200 of profit as you won't be getting paid another min cash.  The prizepool benefits from having £100 put back into plus another £300 in 'upaid' cashes.  Guys merging stacks are basically adding £400 a time to the prizepool.

These maths only work if all players are of *equal* skill level.  This is not the case at all. 

Will there be any £15 5 Seat GTD Sats on Sat and Sunday (this weekend)? Can't see anything in the lobby

Cheers

Hi, Usually the lobby is updated everyday! So, I presume it will be there on Saturday morning!

Yeah thought that, but can see the Mon / Tue Hypers already. No worries. Cheers

To be fair to Rob and the DTD crew let's not be hoping for a potential overlay on the sats for this when they have a) just done their brains on the ISPT sats and event and b) are guaranteeing £50k on a £100 tournament.

Standard sats programme seems pretty fair to me for these.

I don't think anyone thinks all poker players are equal either in ability or deepness of pocket. What edge do you think a better player needs to be +EV to try and get two or three (or more!) stacks through to Day 2?


I think they would have to have an "insane" edge tbh.

I'm not asking for anything that not been advertised...but agree 100% with what you are saying

Exactly this.  For a player to make merging stacks profitable they would have to have an ROI exceeding 400% (I think, though im not 100% sure that my thought process is right, that a 430% ROI would be somewhere round break even).

However you want to look at it, im 100% sure that only the prizepool benefits from merged stacks.

Quantifying edges at a level where each player is not world class is just too difficult.  Barely any player is reasonable in their assessment of themselves and others, and then the perceived skill gap between themselves and others.

I was merely pointing out that the formula provided is slightly inaccurate and there are more variables to take into account.  I would personally be more concerned with the ability for colluding teams to generate monster stacks, repeatedly.

I like the idea of not punishing people for playing more than one Day 1.  I am not sure that merging has any positive benefits over "best score goes through", where the negatives are less.

Can you show your workings out that prove a 400% ROI is needed for merging in two single, independent events that only are linked by a score that is joined at the end? I would reason that if a player has a 30% ROI in these events, then merging is a distinct possibility, as this player will be more profitable than the rest of the players in the tournament.

I can.  When I've finished work later I'll go into the tank and write a proper explanation.  Unless someone beats me to it!

This would be a completely pointless exercise.  If these teams were colluding to create 'moster stacks' then they would be retarded.  Assuming all players are plus ev (which I would highly doubt given the proposed plan), the 'team' would be better off with 3x 300k stacks going into day 2 than 1x 900k stack as 3x £300 + 3x equity of remaining prizepool would be far better than 1x £300 and 1x equity of remaining prizepool. 

Ran the numbers (in a crude fashion) through ICMIZER to show how much the stacks would be worth at the FT assuming there was £40k left on the table:

ICM For 900k stack

£8825

ICM For 3x 300k stacks

3 x £4520 = £13,560

Gotta be honest, ive been trying to write a reasoned and easy to follow explanation for why I think merging stacks is -£ev but keep getting tangled up in my own argument.  I will have another shot at this tomorrow unless someone steps in to bail me out (where's lil' dave when you need him).   ;frustrated;

A couple of key points are 1. What your stack size is from your first successful attempt and it's relation to the average & 2. the amount you actually add to your stack from the 2nd/any ongoing successful attempts. If the average is 100k, you have 90k, and add only 30k on your 2nd attempt, can it really be significantly+ev? it's one thing successfully having a stack more than once when the field is down to 10%, but quite another having a combined total stack large enough to make the overall investments sufficiently profitable.

If there are multiples of this comp can i chose when to use my day 1 tokens (if i win one)?

Think Simon mentioned earlier that they last 30 days, so you could use them for another one of these within that time frame.

Merging stacks will NEVER be +ev unless you have an unattainably large ROI.

Using an ICM calculator, I used the stack sizes: 100,000, 80,000, 30,000, 10,000 (4 remaining stacks left on the bubble), then split the 80,000 stack into two 40,000 stacks (giving us 5 players 1 from the bubble) and got: 33.8% equity for the 80,000 stack vs 2*21.04% = 42.08% for the two 40,000 stacks. The prize distribution was 1st: 50%, 2nd: 30%, 3rd: 20% (a top heavy single table STT).

So from this we can see that the stacks when split were worth 42.08% of the prizepool as opposed to 33.8%.  Interestingly, a stack of 100,000 chips only has 34.91% of the prize pool, so you would be much better off with 2x 40k stacks than 1x 100k stack.

I understand that MTT's are slightly different, but as far as I can see these calcs would still run the same, just with smaller equities of the prizepool.  If I could be bothered to run the nash calculations for working out the increased edge of having a larger stack, but I'm 100% sure the edge would be negligible vs the amount of equity you give up when merging.

The only thing that will EVER benefit from stacks getting merged in this tournament is the prizepool (and as such the rest of the players who are ITM already), AINEC.

Yep, makes sense...thanks for the maths Tomson87, seems to prove what I was postulating but with substance, lol

And it only took me 2 days to get my words out ;D

Online Day1a of the first DTD Summer Special Deepstack is tonight 8.30pm

there is a last chance satellite at 7pm £5RB 5 seats GTD

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DATES: Monday 17th June – Sunday 23rd June 2013

BUY-IN: £100+ £15

GTE:  £50,000 (500 entries)

EST 1st PRIZE: £12,500 (25%)

MIN CASH: £300 (3x)

CHIPS: 30,000

STRUCTURE: Blinds will start at 3000-6000 Day 2 - the average stack will be at least 50BB

CLOCK:

Day 1’s - 30 mins live / 12 mins Online

Day 2   - 35 mins Day 2 / 40 Mins Final

 

RULES:

1. Players play down to 10% of the field on all Day 1’s, the 10% is rounded down and any “bubble players” will receive £115 from the prizepool eg. with 105 players, 10 go through to Day 2 and 5 "bubble players" are paid £115 out of the prizepool.

2. Players can play as many Day 1’s as they want and their chips will be “merged” to form their Day 2 starting stack. eg. Mr Smith makes it through to Day 2 on Monday Online Day 1a with 60,000 chips, this would only be 10bb on Day 2, so he plays Saturday Day 1d live at DTD and makes Day 2 with 240,000 chips, he will then start Sunday Day 2 with a starting stack of 300,000 chips.

 
DATES:                    

Day 1a Online   17th June Monday Online 8.30pm    

Are you doing any updates for these Tighty?

I am doing the first one, this weekend, as I thought it would be interesting to cover the first one for everyone so they can get a detailed flavour of how it plays etc

After that, will do 1 or 2 in July, see what the reaction to this weekend is

Ok see you on Saturday

Interesting maths. We will publish the stats of the number of players that attempt to merge stacks and the number of merged stacks. As I said, noone has ever forfeited their stack for even £50, so we expect both numbers to be very low, especially as only 10% make Day 2, so it will be interesting to see what players do under this format, I think the distance a player travels to Dusk Till Dawn will also be a factor in the decision making.

We start tonight;

7.30PM - Last chance satellite £5RB 5 seats GTD

8.30PM £100 Deepstack Day 1a Online 8.30pm


Good luck to everyone, Aces

Further info; http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

Questions, post on here or on Facebook

That assumes no overlay, which I hope there isn't.

Got my seat through the feeders

Playing tonight

Good Luck Everyone

See ya sunday Rich ;)

^^^ This.  GL_TODAY.

Also playing tonight

Sats seemed to generate more seats last night than guaranteed which is good! Hoping for good numbers tonight would 100 be optimistic?!?

Surprised the Facebook freeroll was 5 seats to 115 would it not have been better for 30 seats to the 15? Or manye two Facebook/twitter freeroll a with 20/25 seats each to the £15s?

playing tonight
be interesting to see  how many runners it gets
also in for tomorrow but unlikely to be playing if I get through tonight 

Any info on amount runners ext today carnt see on iPad ?

We got 75 runners a little under the target but still a decent start for the event.

Quick question, the £100 dtd token is valid until the 15th July. I would like to play the weekend 13th July, can you confirm there will be a £100 deepstack tournament on this weekend??

Yes

flicking it in Friday.
Could do with the £12,500

Is Nick Hicks playing?
If so, I might save the £100 and not bother :)

Was watching the FT of the online satelite ( for day2 ) and to tell the truth , I haven't seen so many BADBEATS in my life . It's must had about minimum of 5/6 beats on the day2 bubble time . Unbelievable suckout. So sick to watch . Most of ALIP won r players that are far behind , like  60/40 or worse . Never seen do many beats before in one sessions.

Yep loads of beats, all good fun! :).......I had aces cracked twice,including by the mighty 8,4......still, managed to get there in the end.

I hope a few short-stacks got through ;)

Chippyman

What time did it all finish on the end?

Not sure whether to play tonight, depends when it finishes

Ty

Online Day1b of the first DTD Summer Special Deepstack is tonight 8.30pm

there is a last chance satellite at 7pm £5RB 5 seats GTD

75 played 1a last night and 7 got through

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DATES: Monday 17th June – Sunday 23rd June 2013

BUY-IN: £100+ £15

GTE:  £50,000 (500 entries)

EST 1st PRIZE: £12,500 (25%)

MIN CASH: £300 (3x)

CHIPS: 30,000

STRUCTURE: Blinds will start at 3000-6000 Day 2 - the average stack will be at least 50BB

CLOCK:

Day 1’s - 30 mins live / 12 mins Online

Day 2   - 35 mins Day 2 / 40 Mins Final

 

RULES:

1. Players play down to 10% of the field on all Day 1’s, the 10% is rounded down and any “bubble players” will receive £115 from the prizepool eg. with 105 players, 10 go through to Day 2 and 5 "bubble players" are paid £115 out of the prizepool.

2. Players can play as many Day 1’s as they want and their chips will be “merged” to form their Day 2 starting stack. eg. Mr Smith makes it through to Day 2 on Monday Online Day 1a with 60,000 chips, this would only be 10bb on Day 2, so he plays Saturday Day 1d live at DTD and makes Day 2 with 240,000 chips, he will then start Sunday Day 2 with a starting stack of 300,000 chips.

 
DATES:                   

Day 1b Online   18th June Tuesday Online 8.30pm     

12.15am

blinds 8/16k ante  2k

about 280k ave for the 7 qualifers (highest 400k ish)

Another bullet Live this weekend!!!!

I think u r the 1st one to do the suckout . U move in with K10o and got snapped by AQss and the flopped was 34Q& turn was Ks it's bring the flush draw but u faded it . After that hand, I must had saw another 4/5 beats including AA vs KK ALIP for the chips leader . K on the flopped yet AGAIN!!! So sick
 

My exit hand (I think I finished 11th) was KK reshoved into A9...flop AA9. GG. Back on the horse tonight though :)

Average 321K, blinds start at 3k-6k on Day 2, 54BB average

I'm interested in comments about the structure/clock, my options to balance start/finish times/day 2 etc etc were to play 25 min clock in club/10 min online (and have all WSOP main event levels in) or go 30 min live/12 min online and take out 4 levels from Day 1 but then back to full WSOP structure from Day 2. I went with the latter because I felt at £100 buy-in on a weekly back to back basis we needed to cater for people not playing too late/starting too early and also get Day 2 finished by midnight but get maximum play - so any comments are welcome, its a challenge to get good numbers each week for a 2 day event over summer unless we try and fit in with people's lifestyles (the masses) so playing till 2am online/starting 5pm friday afternoons/finishing 3am on Day 2 etc

Cheers Aces

Structures perfect for online and live . What to expect for a £100 comp ! The only things that is annoying is the beats on the FT . Other that , they all perfect for the £100 comp. Well done again Dtd .

From a personal point of view I would rather have more levels early.  But if it works better for the masses to do it this way then (and it shows an improvement in numbers) then I didn't hate it that much.

P.S. Was a little bit turbo-ish though.

Back on tonight for final shot till next weekend...
Comp played fine, enjoyed watching FT :)

#runlikebingham1time

See I am the reverse. I think the starting blind/ante structure is fine. I would like more random levels mid/late on.

1500/3000 and 1600/3200
7500/15000 and 8000/16000 etc.

1 or 2 slight jumps mid/late on will make a big difference I think.

Just adds a little more skillful play later on besides shoving spots, raise get it in etc. More room to 3/4bet deeper in the torney.
More flops seen the more people that bust, so shouldn't really affect finishing times tooo much.

But like Chippyman, it is a £100 comp. Awesome structure already. Few tweeks would best apply for 300/500 Deepstacks.

 Certainly gets my vote with 2 hours travelling and work on Monday.

fyp

Structure is fine it's a £100 2 day comp expecting 500 players ish. I expect an element of turbo play!

the smurfs going to fire his bullet/donate his buy in to the prize pool tonight...(in The Rocks voice)....bring it!!!

Playing on line day 1b. Awful structure. Wont be playing any more with this structure. I understand the need to finish at reasonable time but why not start an hour earlier.

What is it with these structure pigeons? 30k stack for 100 quid? Just adjust!

Or let's make it 100k stacks 3 hour clocks and starting at 25/25. Some forget the 11500/23000 level tho cos otherwise it's a shoot

sigh...15th...if we only played to the flop i'd have crushed it...river got me 3 times on 3 all ins.

good luck all...might try again in a few weeks.

He asked a question and people have given there feedback. The more you shoot people down, the less likely some people are to give their views. Simon is asking for feedback. :)

Oh shut up ;)

Hi Simon, the structure is fine. Can this at least start an hour early at 7:30? This would then finish before midnight for people who need to go to work early. I think there is late reg is till level 6/7 so no issues for late regs as well.

Sorry meant to say this for ONLINE!

U SHUT UP TO BIARCHT!!!!!! Lol

Haha, Shut it mate.

How many played last night?

Any duplicate qualifiers ???

I am giving my opinion on people moaning about a perfectly decent structure for a £100 comp

Yes mate I know :) after reading it back it seemed a bit aggressive. Didn't mean it like that in anyway btw.

No duplicate qualifiers

Both nights have seen 70-80 runners and 7 go through to Sunday

chip counts from Monday were

405422
373003
356550
346697
294504
254384
219440
   
these included, because we know they have posted on here, ripple11 and Tomym Bingham

last night's chip counts

399210
396332
358413
297031
293192
245992
199830

No probs :)

He did really ;)

Oh shut up Alex ! Lol

Very difficult to keep everyone happy.......some players want;

- to start later on Saturdays to spend afternoon with family or go to watch the football team they have supported for 50 years

- quicker clocks to get to bed earlier

- 12pm starts on Day Sundays because they are staying in a hotel and get kicked out at 11am

- loads of chips so they can see plenty of flops

- an EPT or WSOP structure so they are not under pressure to play anything but premium hands

- to merge stacks, to take the highest stack through, to forfeit their stack - or even to get through twice and get paid twice!

- a one day event to cut down on expenses

- to be able to re-enter the same day because they can afford it and want to gamble early doors knowing they can buy in same day

- later starts online because they finish work late and like to have dinner before they play

- complete freezouts, no re-entries, reloads or re-buys - but with a massive gaurentee of course

- a 5 day event because they can spare the time

- earlier starts on Fridays because they knock off work at midday

- 3 am finishes because they don't have to get up for work

On this basis, its impossible to not upset certain groups of players, because to be fair, most players do want to play at DTD, but personal circumstances, location, bankroll mean that not all comps fit everyone, that why we have different brands at DTD, £1K Monte Carlo, £300 Monthly Deepstack, Incredible 100's, Super 50's, XXL 25's and Grand Prix's and Chip Leaders...........something for everyone but not everyone plays them all because they don't suit every player.

In terms of this comp, this is the first week, there is plenty of interest, we will tweak but I have a feeling that this comp will only need fine tuning, it has some big positives in my opinion

Cheers Rob

I haven't played it yet but from what I can see it looks pretty f**king awesome.

Will hopefully be playing Fri/Sat.

Hope it does well so it can continue. Good luck DTD.

^^^ What the hairy man with the bald dog said.

I don't know about financial viability but it seems to me like these problems could be resolved by trying two flights on saturday, maybe a midday and a 5pm flight? I've heard about these and it seems like it solves some of the re-entry no re-entry issues etc.

Missed this week as I was away but definitely playing some online legs in the near future, looks like a lot of fun.

We have never tried this, I will speak to Simon. I quite like the idea but whether there is enough demand I am not sure.

Yep +1 too.  I know everyman and his dog ;) has their own personal opinion and wants on DTD's structures and timings etc.  I just wanted to say, that personally for me everything has aligned for these £100 Deepstacks.  It fits me absolutely perfectly, from the 8:30pm online starts to the day2 starts on Sunday.  I work till 8pm most nights so 7.30pm that some people have suggested is too early for me.

Both online day1s have finished at around 12.15am which is very reasonable even if you have to be up early.

Also this feelgood factor has NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING to do with making Day2 last night with chiplead :)

Thin

I used to be mate :(

You sound surprised chippyman ;)

You must have one of those same mirrors Lyndsey has that makes her think she's larger than she actually is.

No, I have those trousers and tops that don't button or zip up anymore!  lol enough sidetracking the thread.

Ahh so your -----, well done Maria gl ;)

Then don't be a hypocrite. I am giving my opinion on what I believe is an awful structure.

At first sight it looked a good format to me. However as I played I changed my mind. I wrote my first comments on here when I was near the top of the chips stack counts because I was surprised at how quickly the stacks became short in terms of big blinds long before the bubbles.

But , this is £100 comp with £50k GUARENTEED on it ! What y expect  like 300k chips with 3 hours clock like George said ?
Can't fine £100 comp so value like  this elsewhere . Should be happy . Lol

I would rather start with less chips but more levels and at least a 15 minute clock online. I accept that if it is to finish any where near midnight then the structure needs to be fast. But that doesn't make it a good structure to me. But if you like these structures then enjoy, and good luck to you. I will save my money for events that better suit me.
 

And?

AWFUL? Really?

this quote list is gettin funny thought id add to it ;) ,
i kinda understand but this is the choice when you decide to play online(i learnt that). most do prefer short clock fest done by 12 asleep by 12.30 and availbale for work the next day, having a late one is like the end of the world for some players lol. i also prefer a longer clock thats why id never choose online over live but then again i have not got to travel hours to get to DTD as i know others do. The gtd will be beat and its a great tourney no doubt, i think with regards to structure though the gtd should NOT be used as a reason to justify anything because thats not the point. But tryin to please most is the best DTD can do and the structure suits the timescale players have

Great place DTD any chance of a UK One Drop type event like the Little Drop?!?

Gemini

Thanks for feedback.

Please can you say what you are not happy out, it is just the 12 min clock or the blind  structure - or both?

The 12 min clock is equivalent to 30 minutes live (ie same number of hands), I am happy with a 30 mins for Day 1 and then going to 40 for day 2, this is more than fine for a £100 event over 2 days, it will still take till 11pm - 12pm to finish on Sunday evening, so any increases in the clocks will mean a later finish.

In terms of structure, there are only 4 levels missing from the WSOP Main event structure - all other levels are in, missing levels are 150-300 + 25 ante (WSOP goes 150-300 then 150-300 with 25 ante), 250-500, 500-1000, 1200-2400. Clearly with 30,000 chips taking out one of the 150-300 levels (150-300 no ante is still in) and the 250-500 level (which UKIPT and may £1000 tournies do not have because its only a 14% CPR - cost per round increase) is not going to make much difference on the comp, so we are talking about 2 levels 5000-1000 and 1200-2400, are you saying its these 2 levels that you want including and that are effecting your experience?

Thanks again, good feedback but I'm just wanting a bit more specific than "awful"

Cheers Simon

U can't make every one happy Simon . They don't understand this is £100 comp with 50 LARGE GUARENTEED on it !

It looks like a pretty damn good concept to me now even though my original doubts will cost me an apple in a misplaced prop bet.

I'll be donating on Saturday all being well. Chasing obviously.

Hi Simon.

When I first looked at this tournament format it looked good to me, £115 buy in, 30k stack with the option to play more day ones and merge stacks. What's not to like.

 Then I played online day 1b and was surprised to find that relatively quickly it became a shove fest. I was lucky enough to have a large stack for most of the time and even held the chip lead quite late on but I found that unless I wanted to gamble by by shoving almost any two cards my big stack was soon going to be cut down by the rapidly increasing blinds.

The tournament played like a turbo and if that is how it was meant to be played then fine but I personally don't play £115 turbos.

I think the 30k stack disguised the speed of the tournament to me so I should have studied the blind levels a little closer before playing.

I am no expert on blind levels in relation to clock, number of entries, desired duration of MTT etc but yes I believe by removing the levels you mentioned it has a turbo effect on the structure.

You have no doubt  gathered that I don't like turbos.

I probably shouldn't have used the word awful but In my defence I'm from the north and tend to say what I'm thinking. It wasn't awful just not for me. It's clear many players like turbos and I can see why an early finish on a week day is desirable.

I believe in my first post on this subject I queried whether an earlier start time would allow for a slower structure. An extra hour on line can make a big difference to how the tournament plays.

Hope this helps to clarify my views on the tournament and apologies if the word 'awful' came across as a bit strong. I am usually signing the praises of DTD wherever I go.

This seems to work really well in the 25/25 series in the north west they are getting big runners and breaking guarantees for similar buy in comps. I would definitely give the 2 flight structure a go on a Saturday. Could see these getting 700+ after the first few!

There's a £100 comp somewhere I think ( can't remember where ) , that give £50K GUARENTEE, 50k starting stack & 75 minutes clock . I think Rupinder might know where it is . I lost memory of the  place already but will try to remember and post it here if I remember where the place are !  DTD WELDONE IN THE MOST VALUE £100 COMP , EVEN THOUGH I MAY NOT QUALIFY AFTER 3 bullets . Thanks

STILL a turbo tho

Emmmmmmmmm

Like Chippyman I too have seen enough of the on line 'variance' to mean I will be taking my two shots on Friday and Saturday. (Tried too many times for ISPT online and can't take the online beats late on again.)

I dont think DTD can do much more than what they do; put on a variety of tornaments with different prize pools and structures over different periods. Constructive criticism is invited to help iron out potential (small) issues i guess, but they cant please all the people all the time, so i'll save my style of moaning/critisism for the bad beats...

Well said.

I don't get to play at DTD half as often as I would like to: if I could I'd be there every weekend. I'm playing tomorrow and really looking forward to playing a £50K gted tourny for £100. As a recreational player that's the bottom line for me, and for the four people I'm coming with, none of whom have ever played at DTD before.

They all want to play because of the relatively low buy-in and high guarantee. Job done as far as DTD are concerned I guess.

This weekend LIVE £100 Deepstack with £50,000 GTD

Day 1C Friday 7pm, Day 1D Sat 5pm

Already 14 players through to Day 2 on Sunday.

This event is a next day re-entry only so you can join us live on Friday and Saturday if you make Day 2 on both attempts you will merge your stacks to create 1 big stack (1A & 1B took place online Mon & Tues).

Full details - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

I'm updating this, mainly over the weekend but will be there tonight, to see how the first of these events plays out

We have 185 runners with 2 hours of late reg to go in the £100 Deepstack

I am going to ask the players for a show of hands at the break for a 5pm start / early finish or 7pm start/later finish on Fridays. This is a record number for a Deepstack on a Friday night, the £150 Deepstack and £300 gets 100 players on Fridays.

Cheers Simon

So do we now numbers that have merged there stack if any one has.

Re the start time, on a Saturday the start time is too late imo.  As a player who travels almost 100 miles to DTD, if I was going to fire 2 bullets at the live day 1s on Friday and Saturday and stay over Friday night, what do I do until 5pm?  I may have only booked 1 night in a hotel on Friday night so have to check out at 11am/12 noon, then I have 5 hours milling about.  This really really puts me off playing both days, hence I am only playing tomorrow.  

Re the 25/25 series in the North West, it is true that in season 1 they had 2 flights on a saturday (12 noon and 8pm), however because day 2 started at 1pm (which is a great start time for a day 2 imo) lots of players realised fairly quickly that flight 2 finished way too late and they were knackered on Sunday.  They had a bit of an experiment at Salford due to lack of space and introduced a flight on Friday night, making 3 flights in total.  I played the Friday night flight and it was unbelievable how many runners they got, the place was rammed.  I believe it started at 7pm.  Many players I spoke to said that they wanted to fire 2 bullets at it, 1 on Friday night and another at 12 noon on Saturday.  Lots of players said they were playing Friday night instead of Saturday night because Saturday just finished too late (it started at 8pm, finished after 4am).  Grosvenor have now announced that season 2 of the 25/25, all venues will have 3 flights (1 Friday and 2 Saturday) and you can have 6 bullets at it in total (2 per flight).

So if I were you I would look at keeping the 7pm Friday flight and moving flight 2 on Saturday to a much earlier start time.  Maybe also have a 6pm flight as well on Saturday and see how it goes.

The structure of the 25/25 tournament is also excellent, with 25k starting stack and 40 min clock throughout, starting at 25/50 and most levels in there.  The players feedback re the structure has been very very good. I personally would prefer a 40 min clock and a lower starting stack than a 30 min clock and a higher stack.

Another unhappy customer . Simon and Nick, I presume u can't make everyone that come to Dtd feel at home. There are always someone that is not going to agree with :-
1) Starting Time
2) Clock Online And Live
3) Starting Stack
4) Payout
5) Etc

Hope one day everyone will be happy chappy like me. Never complained

Well done Dtd again!!

I'm not complaining, Simon asked for feedback and I'm trying to help by giving it!  The travelling punters have different considerations and issues to those of you who live close, so just wanted to give my perspective on it.

Michelle Bennett , it wasn't aiming at u . Good luck xxx

Just a thought....why not let this weekend pass, and then comment when you've ACTUALLY PLAYED IT rather than the back seat driver idea? gonna be far more constructive advice from people once they have seen first hand how it will affect them rather than people bemoaning a structure they have yet to see in action...i understand some of it is constructive but some of it has been on the exciting end of useless to actually get anything changed!

GIVE IT CHANCE!!

think this is harsh

DTD asked for feedback, Michelle gave it from a slightly different perspective of someone who travels over 100 miles each way to get the club fairly regularly, and I didn't think she wasn't giving it a chance as she is playing it tomorrow!

Think this tournament is pretty much close to perfect for recreational players.

I was going to play 1c, but I've got Saturday free for a change so will be playing 1d. However, the 7pm start time is probably ideal for most for the Friday so here's my show of hands for that ;indestructable;

The time of the Saturday start is going to split opinion. An earlier start means it's good for those who are staying over on the Friday, or have the whole day free and want to start ASAP. It would also mean an earlier finish before day 2. However, for people playing or watching sport, or those with other commitments on the Saturday the later start will appeal.

With the choices of Day 1s, including the online ones, and the fact that getting to day 2 is a guaranteed cash, then that's most people catered for in one way or another.

Looking forward to playing tomorrow, and anticipate a cracking atmosphere in the club. Just hope Guinness is back on tap...  :)

Would appreciate if some one could post the finish time of last nights day one and also today's finish time (post tomorrow) if you know

Ty

^^^

Tighty said 3.40am on the update thread.

this please

Only one person has managed to merge. Greek jack.

The DTD Summer deepstack saw a huge 642 entrants and it plays to a winner from 2pm today updated  http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=61532.msg1798098#new

For £100 someone is walking away with £14,000 or so later....



Tomorrow night, Day1a Online of next week's event at 8.30pm

FORMAT

30,000 starting chips

Live Day 1's will have a 30 min clock

Online Day 1's will have a 12 min clock

Players will play down to 10% of the field for each Day 1

(The 10% of players making Day 2 will be rounded down, for example, with 104 players, 10 will make Day 2 and 4 players will receive their £100 + £15 buy-in back - same as the ISPT Day 1's)

Day 2 will have a 40 minute clock with blinds starting at 3000-6000, approximately 50BB average

All players will who make Day 2 will be in the money, the min cash will be £300

RE-ENTRY

Players can re-enter into any future Day 1's

There is no forfeit rule for playing multiple Day 1's, players can qualify through multiple Day 1's and their chip stacks will be merged together into their starting stack for Day 2

(example: player enters Monday's Online Day 1a and finishes in top 10% of field with 100,000 chips, he plays Saturday Day 1d and makes it through with 225,000 chips, his starting stack on Day 2 will be 325,000)

How much did he start with today?

I reckon there'll be more merged stacks over the DTD GP with 16 day 1s available.

If you fancy a share of a £60,000 prize pool from as little as £115..DTD are doing this again next week

Having smashed the guarantee this week, the feedback is that players would like more Online day ones so this week...

Online Day ones Monday to THURSDAY, then the live day ones as normal Friday-Saturday

The extra online day 1s are a great addition and I've also noticed the
GTD has been increased! Wp DTD

Increased to??? Still says £50,000 on the website.

 Kh
GTE is 50K

Must've been a tighty typo!

Think he meant the prize pool was £60k at the weekend.

Hi Guys

Last Sunday Adam Brown walked away with £14,000 from a £100 outlay!! You can play Day 1A online tonight for £100 + £15 and be in with a chance of winning £12,500 GTD 1st place this Sunday!!

TONIGHT
7pm £5 RB Last Chance - 5 seats GTD
8pm £15 FO Hyper Turbo Last Chance - 2 seats GTD
8.30pm Day 1A ONLINE - £50,000 GTD

REMAINING DAY 1's
Day 1B - 1D online Tues - Thursday 8.30pm
Day 1A & 1B LIVE - Fri 7pm & Sat 5pm

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

Cheers Nicola

FML! I'll get my coat

Yes, the comp made £64,200 is if you want a share of an over £60,000 prize pool for...etc etc

How many Day 1 runners were there last night?

29 and 2 qualified with the following chips

559140
310860

Disappointing number, but lets see how the week goes

There are three more Online Day Ones tonight, Wednesday and Thursday

7pm £5 RB Last Chance - 5 seats GTD
8pm £15 FO Hyper Turbo Last Chance - 2 seats GTD
8.30pm Day 1b ONLINE - £50,000 GTD


http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

that very low,also is there anyway to buy in online playing Friday

Hi Bookie

Yes you can buy in online via the lobby for Friday. Your chips are only on the table when you arrive so you receive a full stack even if you want to late reg :)

Cheers Nicola

Hi Guys

For those of your who just love playing poker and don't want to break the bank by playing 24/7 we have added a £100 Deepstack Mini Feeder for 50p ;)

This guarantees a £3.30 token for the next stage, and the first one starts at 6.30pm tonight!

Let me know if you win a £100 token from 50p, would be great PR :)

Good Luck, Nicola

Wowwwwweeeeeeeeeee. I will defo play this feeders . 50p YES PLEASE

not quite 50p, but my first deposit on the new site, and i played 1 £3.00 qualifier, then used the £16 token, and qualified for a £115 token to use!

Just a reminder we have Online Day 1's on Wednesday and Thursday this week 8.30pm :) Nicola is off to Vegas for 4 days so any questions - fire them at me, Cheers Simon

Three players made it through 1b last night with the following chip stacks

527479
282047
210474

Online Day 1c is tonight at 8.30pm

 

So after 2 days we have 5 players?

Yes.

there were 14 from the two Online Day Ones last week, and there are two more to come this week tonight and Thurs at 8.30pm

 
So you think Thursday will only get 20ish players? Might come down Friday to play live then!

No idea, these are the first Wed and Thurs Online Day Ones

Players asked for them, so we will see

Play one and then you can make Day 2 and a GTD £300 Cash for no hotel expenses etc

Two more through last night for Day 2

Chip Counts

381592
281408

thats 7 in three Online Day Ones then, with Online 1d tonight at 8.30pm ahead of the lIve Day ones starting tomorrow

I don't suppose it costs anything to put the onlines on but it's baffling you get asked to do more then so far in three this week only just equate the same number of players to one from last week

4 days gives players to much choice!

I played last night but with 15 registered I seriously considered not playing. I then registered with 17 in, not sure if it was just me debating whether to play or not. It just wasn't as attractive as when there is 50+ entered even though it doesn't increase the % going through!

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the feedback so far on this thread and on FB. As we said when we launched this series of Summer Deepstacks, we would tweak slowly over the coming weeks. This is very much a grass roots poker tournament - it is not targeted at the semi pro/professional poker player, so plenty of options to play Day 1's, start times that don't need days off work, avoiding a late finish on Sundays, everyone in the money on Day 2 and opportunities to qualify for a small outlay are important to this particular event.

Next week we will be qualifying more players and also giving the online day 1's a boost by adding Last Chance sats with 22 seats a night directly into that nights online Day 1. Last week, 650 entries was a great number but over the course of the summer we would be over the moon with 50 players a night online, 100 runners on Friday and 200 on Saturday, that would meet the £50K GTE over the summer/WSOP period when we usually experience our biggest downturn.

We have hardly overlayed a penny in any of the £100 sats so far which shows the event has some legs. Below is next weeks satellite program starting Monday which guarantees 137 seats a week, Lisa has shown me how to paste the image in here after seeing me struggle for an hour! I would hope that we will be qualifying close to 200 players a week by the end of the summer. It would be a nice story for someone to win £12,500 - £15,000 from just 50p and this tournament format gives our more recreational players from the DTD Pub League and Grand Prix the opportunity to play a 2 day Deepstack event for a more reasonable price. So far, I am very happy with how things have gone.

Cheers Simon

Below is next weeks satellite program starting Monday which guarantees 117 seats a week

...am I missing something...it adds up to 24 seats...or are there others???

great tourney btw even if I haven't made day 2 yet

I will check my maths, LOL, its actually 137 seats - thanks for spotting this

Monday to Thursday Last Chance Sats - 4 days x 22 seats a night (5 + 5 + 10 + 2) = 88 seats

Monday - Sunday Evening Sats - 7 days x 7 seats a night (5 + 2) = 49 seats

Total seats GTD = 137!

your maths was better than mine...didn't see it was every night...doh!

just an observation...I think the 50p feeders have been set wrong...the points total if you want to buy in with those is 1040 which is the same as a £3 feeder

So are there any changes to this weekend game

Hi Smurf

you are correct we will get this amended

Its now sorted cheers for pointing it out.

No

really hate the idea of top 10% make day two, but going to try grind out a seat tonight, hope to see you all sunday

You don't have to play if you really hate it - honest. I'm just sorry that I have put you through this awful poker experience.  Cheers Simon

lol

<3

Who's the daddy? Gogogogo Simon

How many players did the live days get please on the Friday and Saturday?

206 and 288

Tighty covered it in his updates from Friday onwards:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=61532.0

Do you know when the last summer tourney is likely to be - still got a day one ticket but can only make one weekend in the next four so wondered if I could use it in August?

Pretty sure its to the end of July (SPT Six Max is 28 July so not that weekend) and then re-assess with people back from Vegas then.I would use it in July if you can

Tonight is the first of the Live Day Ones for the second DTD Summer Deepstack

7pm start, late registration until 10pm

Re-entry into Saturday if required

30,000 chips on a 30 minute clock playing down to the top 10% who go through to Sunday and a guaranteed cash of £300.

Last Friday 206 runners, and it played until 3.30am

http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/events/100%20Deepstack/26692

I'll be in Nottingham on the weekend of the 20th July, so hopefully will still be running then.  The thing about DTD though is you know there'll be something good on no matter what weekend it is.

Cant play this weekend! Sigh.
Good luck to all and Tighty to! :)

Last nights chip counts from the qualifiers were

448433
357271
124296

There were 114 entries over the four Online Day Ones, and 11 through to Sunday's Day Two

+1

Was last weekend's live update a one-off for these or will there be others?

I wanted to do one for the first one last week. Will do another one + in July,maybe the middle of the month, and then see what DTD have planned for August/early September ahead of doing the Grand Prix in mid Spetmebr

On this note will there be any weeks where X amount of levels are played instead of 10% of the field going through?

Not as the tournament is constituted

I'm interested as to why it is seen as a problem?

The field plays down to 10% and everyone who makes it to Sunday is guaranteed at least a min cash, and therefore to cover the expenses of getting to DTD on the Sunday

As opposed to playing 13+ levels, 13-15% getting through and the bottom end of the field receiving nothing on the Sunday

Would have thought it was absolutely perfect for recreational players with one eye on their expenses,and I think this was the universal feedback of those who played last week and made it to Day 2

It's just not a traditional poker comp tighty. Blinds get rolled back and it adds a different dynamic. Wouldn't say I hate it but do just prefer straight day 2 format

As you saw from the updates last week those that made day 2 were in a tournament resuming at 50x bb average and a 40 minute clock. This played steadier/deeper than day 2 of a deepstack and when I looked at the composition of the last few tables, I thought there was a premium on "skilled" players

This would suit someone like you George.

+1

As above no major problem with it just like the more traditional format! The online legs cut down on the amount of expenses so really wouldn't mind driving 50 minutes to play whether I was guaranteed a cash or not.

Hi Guys

Always interested in hearing your views, it is impossible to create a perfect event thats suits 100% but i think we're pretty close with this as it is targeted at the mass recreational market. The blinds on Day 1's are finishing at between 2500 5000 and 6000 12000 so the blinds are not being rolled back much. If you get through with a short stack and have the option to merge without losing your min cash i think having your BB av increased makes it a better experience for those that travel for Day 2 and even if it isn't a traditional format isn't it time to create an event that ticks all the boxes even if one or two elements are different, surely the better players are looking for the best roi and want to play against qualifiers for a big guarantee where they can use their skillsets to adapt.




Cheers

ACES

Hi All

To help reduce the queues we had last week the doors open at 4pm tomorrow for the 5pm start and then next Friday will be 6pm for the 7pm start

After the online Day 1's this week we need 386 to hit the £50,000 guarantee, last week we got 494 so will be happy with 400+

Any event is hard to run during summer but especially with the WSOP on but if everyone supports us i would like to build this so please help us spread the word.

Cheers

ACES

ok  it was a little harsh saying i hated it, but like a traditional poker comp even if i have to drive 80 or so miles

Hi, how late can you use the token you win online to entry on the Saturday?

I understand that Tighty but whether we're 50 bigs deep or 20 the better players will adjust anyway and not moan about it being a shoot.

It is absolutely not a shoot. Not DTD's fault if people moan about it being a shoot either!

Would it be possible to change the name of this avatar please.

 ;envious; to G2L/LV

can anyone tell me when the last of these will be ran?

busy with work then holidays but would love to play at least one of these

Mick

Can I just clarify this please Simon? On the live tourney update last week, Tighty mentioned you lose one of your min cashes with a merged stack..


I took this to mean 1 x 300 was absorbed into the remaining pot so effectively you do lose one of your two mincashes.

I personally think it would be a good idea if this this was paid out to the merged 'stackee' (making words up now) when they arrive on Day two, as an additional incentive to play multi days and aim for a merged stack. Otherwise your EV would be less to go for that second attempt. Might help numbers - not that you guys need it, smashing the guarantee last week. ;hattip;

Finally, just on a personal note - living an hour away makes the 10% ideal for me, despite losing the live bubble dynamic, and if I was going to be picky I would literally only tweak the Sunday start time an hour or 2 earlier for the earlier finish ready for work on Monday - circa 1am finish + an hours travel and adrenaline = no sleep til 3  ;sleep; (should I ever be lucky enough to make it that far Obv!).

Thanks in advance as I know you take the time to read these and great that you guys are so open to input.

Rob

122 players in last night's Day 1 so that's a total of 236, DTD need 264 tomorrow for the £50,000 guarantee

Don't forget we open at 4pm so come early and have a drink and a bite to eat before you start.

5pm start, late reg until 8.30pm

£100+15

Qualifiers last night were

Jonathan Hanley    13    3    697000
Gurrinder Konkon    14    5    519000
Farhad Mirfakhrai    14    1    408000
Anthony Arlott    14    7    394000
Philip Hepburn    13    6    295000
Scott Weaver    13    5    244000
Stuart Kinghorn    14    2    243000
Paul Pham Phu    14    9    206000
Jason Liu    14    4    180000
Mohammed Ghollamrezapoue    13    9    167000
Lisa Hawkes    13    1    166000
Hasmukh Khodiyara    13    7    142000

You can buy in anytime (til end of late reg) with a token so don't worry just come down :)

Ideally if you can buy into the holding tank before the original 4pm cut off it makes things easier when you arrive and you still get a full stack when you arrive.

But if you decide late you can head down and use our terminals to reg in the late reg tank or see cash desk and they advise if necessary :)

We'll never turn you away whilst reg is still open so always head down :)

Cheers Nicola

Hi Mick

We haven't got a set time scale for them, however we'll run them while the WSOP is on, so through July.

We'll judge based on player demand so if you guys keep playing them we'll keep them for a few more weeks at least ;)

Cheers Nicola

Late reg for the summer deepstack is until 8pm

Currently has 150+ runners needing 250+ to hit the £50,000 GTE

If you are close enough to get there, its value time.....

I am quite warming up to the idea to be honest. Normally day 1s runs to level 16 I think and from what I have noticed most day 1s finishes with 10% around 16-17.

Also, I think this weeks numbers are a tad disappointing - many asked for more online day 1s, yet less entered over 4 days than they did with 2 days last week! I know DTD always look to please their players but last week they had it just right to be honest!

Thanks, but will have to play next fri/sat.  Didn't get back from Dover until alot later than I planned.

Next week it is

172 played the final Day One yesterday at the club and the top 10% were

Richard Burke    14    1    696000
Neil Wyatt    13    9    680000
Robert Boon    14    9    531000
Craig Gibson    13    3    513000
Anonymous    13    7    461000
Sean Hart    13    8    406000
Martyn Frey    13    1    354000
Colin Tang    13    5    241000
Asif Raja    14    7    214000
Daniel Brown    14    3    171000
Chin Chai Koh    14    2    169000
Craig Stewart    14    8    166000
Craig Tinker    14    5    153000
Jonathan Helm    14    4    152000
Balbir Pottiwal    14    6    132000
Valerie Pippin    13    2    86000
Anonymous    13    4    27000

40 players return to Day 2 at 2pm guaranteed £300 and playing for the £50,000 GTD prize pool

Gl Frankie and Dan Brown

Thanks matev

GL Frankie, hopefully you can do what me and Cody failed to......

Gg

Happy Days.....we have a winner :)

Well done Discostu

1    Stuart Kinghorn    £12,500
2    Sean Robertson    £7,500
3    Colin Tang    £4,500
4    Craig Tinker    £3,130
5    Robert Boon    £2,200
6    Martyn Frey    £1,650
7    Gary Streetly    £1,350
8    Kyriacos Dionysiou    £1,100
9    Simon Hyde    £900
10    Asif Raja    £750
11    Gurrinder Konkon    £750
12    Jonathan Hanley    £750
13    Jonathan Helm    £600
14    Neil Wyatt    £600
15    Richard Burke    £500
16    Sean Hart    £500
17    Jason Liu    £500
18    Farhad Mirfakhrai £500
19    Craig Stewart    £400
20    Peter Haslam    £400
21    Hasmukh Khodiyara    £400
22    Mohammed Istakhar Sadiq £400
23    Anonymous    £400
24    Valerie Pippin    £400
25    Scott Weaver    £400
26    Philip Hepburn    £400
27    Craig Gibson    £400
28    Anthony Arlott    £350
29    John Wood    £350
30    Balbir Pottiwal    £350
31    James Clarke    £350
32    Anonymous    £350
33    Senh Man Ung    £350
34    Daniel Brown    £350
35    Paul Pham Phu £350
36    Chin Chai Koh    £350
37    Chris Cancelliere £300
38    Lisa Hawkes    £300
39    Mohammed Ghollamrezapoue    £300

The new satellite programme for the weekly £100 Summer Deepstacks begins today.

A variety of ways to play either the nightlly Online Day Ones (Online Day1a tonight 8.30pm) or geta £115 token into any Day One

The schedule is as follows

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/satellites/100-deepstack-summer-sat-tree.png)

Hi guys, thank you to the players that gave up their time last week to meet me at DTD for a coffee and to chat over our MTT structures, I have now updated all of our blind and ante structures for 1 day events, £100 Deepstack and Festival events such as a Monte Carlo on this link http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/tournamentstructure.php. No huge changes, but there has been some tweaks on levels and antes to hopefully increase the playing experiences. Cheers Aces

Reminder, 5 seat GTD last chance sats into tonight's Online 1a start at 5.30pm tonight

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

Well done stu about time you had a good win like we said in car park great to see you bink one wd

Ridiculous.

The 10 seat gte finishes at 20:20 auto- that is ridiculous. Just finished 12th on chipcount. Not happy.

Will not be playing again

that was poor,I had to shove with j4 or im out anyway...

Is it possible to have s&g for £20 10 seaters and 2 win seats

got in the top 10 myself but fully agree it was a crazy way to end especially when the target tournament has 84 minutes late registration.

Hi Guys

Unfortunately this is one of the quirks of IPoker we experienced a lot of odd rules/settings on boss but this one is a real strange one I agree.
Basically to directly feed into a parent tournament the players have to be loaded in 6-8mins before which in turn results in a chip count.
I know it's not ideal but it was either this or a token which defeats the object of guaranteeing the larger number of seats direct into tonight's day1
In IPoker defence there is a message on registration and again a message deeper into the comp.
We apologize for this however its unfortunately out of our control.
I hope the guarantee of 10 seats makes it just a little easier to stomach……….

is this gonna happen for the forseeable future?


kinda tilting when the big stacks are all stalling and time banking every decision

Felt a bit tilting but fortunately I got a seat . So can't complain . Thanks

not really the point frankie- adds a pretty big dynamic- cant u just run it earlier??

George we ran 5 seats at 5.30pm another 5 at 6.30pm then the 7.30 pm with 10 seats, thats about the best we can do to get players into the main at a discounted rate.
I quite like the idea of a chip count however Rob was all against it to be fair.
If players don't like the format we will continue to offer loads of token sats where they play out and players can choose there time of registration.
thanks for your feedback we will look at the start times to see what we can do to get at least the big one finished in time.

Cheers

I didn't play tonight so wasn't affected but the token system that was in place for the ISPT seemed perfect.

Easiest thing in my opinion would be to issue 10 tokens which players can then use to late reg the day 1.

Looking forward to having my first go at one of these. Has looked a great comp so far.

Cheers smokey.....funny old world how things happen after what we discussed. You next I hope :)

This is annoying, these sats were very good value for players.

This actually happened because the larger stacked players decision time and time banked their way down to 3BB average, I watched the last 3 tables myself, this meant we had 13 players left at 8.20pm. Having played "normally" it should have been all over by 8.15pm and this would not have happened. I set all the structures for live and online, I will look at this and adjust because ipoker won't be fixing this in the immediate future.

Cheers Simon

I appreciate what you're saying here about 'normal' play but if the larger stacks know that the comp ends at 8:20 then they're playing perfectly by folding every hand and time banking.

As George says there's a whole different dynamic with the forced ending at a set time.

Could you maybe adjust it so that 1st to 8th get a seat and anyone else gets £230 split between them? Might encourage a little bit of play amongst the guys from 7th and below.

There's no way you'll stop the lower stacks stalling though. It a perfect strategy to stall in a comp which is affected by time and I'd be doing it myself if I thought it would secure me a seat.

Thanks for the feedback. As I said we will make some adjustments within the parameters of i poker.

The four players through to Day2 on Sunday, from last night's Online Day One, had chip stacks as follows

530764
246136
234556
218544

the top two are blonde posters, names if they agree/post.

I played the satty last night and was aware of the sudden stop time as it does warn you, even so was a bit strange being around 8th and wondering if things would suddenly change to my detriment - and completely outside my control. Fortunately it went my way. I wouldn't have been best pleased if it hadn't but then I couldn't moan - why would you invest £15 in something without an understanding of what you were buying?

Assure you your view would be different if you'd just missed out. It's a pretty unique situation which needs to be avoided by starting the satty a little earlier

It wasn't aimed at you George, more defence of the overall situation. I do understand, and that's why I stated I wouldn't of been best pleased.

As it is (and this is how dtd can never win) I late regged and would have missed it if it was an early start, having just got back from kids footy.... Anyway made final table but was pushed out of a Sunday seat.....

U sounded angry mate ! Did u just bubble the satelite ?

I came 12th Frankie- not angry as such- just hoping they start it earlier in future to avoid this happening

Ul mate but what can I say

The Last Chance 7.30pm Sat into tonights Day 1b Online has now been changed to 7.15pm, this allows another 5 levels at 3 mins, so it will definatley be down to 10 players before 8.20pm.

Cheers Simon

Nice one

It has been moved

"From tonight, due to players requests, we are moving the 7.30pm £100 Deepstack MEGA SAT to 7.15pm which will allow it to finish in time for the 8.30pm online Day 1 tonight! Please ensure you reg early to ensure it runs we need 11 runners as it's 10 seats GTD

£15 Satellites NOW at 5.30pm, 6.30pm, 7.15pm, 8pm, 8.30pm & 9.30pm!"

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/100--deepstack

This will make u happy George but I hope u don't finish 11th tonite :-)

Probs finish 38th this time and will complain they don't gte 39 seats

He finished 12th? :)

Praised The Lord . God bless George my mate please

Anyone know what time the Friday live day ones tend to finish?

1st week 3.40am with 200+ runners

2nd week with 122 runners so earlier

Another 4 players through last night

Chip Counts as follows

441759
264319
250706
243216

Two are blonde posters, all play at DTD reasonably regularly and the players can let us know if they are happy for names to go up

NEW £100 Deepstack £3 MEGA FEEDERS starting from 4.30pm today

4.30pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (10 seats GTD) --> 5.30pm £15 Freezeout (5 seats GTD)
5.30pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (10 seats GTD) --> 6.30pm £15 Freezeout (5 seats GTD)
6.15pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (20 seats GTD) --> 7.15pm £15 Freezeout (10 seats GTD)

Online 1c is at 8.30pm for this weekend

how many day 1 are there online?

5.30 mega feeder cancelled? Was distracted by tennis and in 5.30pm £15 freezeout cant see feeder in lobby?

I take it that if you win a feeder (thin I know) you can play the other feeders on same day?

It needs 11 runners in time to run

I'll blame Andy Murray then! :)

answers no I just tried. Feel 6.15pm one won't get 21 runners it needs :(

Yes if it's a direct feed you can't play more than one in the tree. You can play the regular £3 Feeders and any £15 satellites after 8pm, just not the earlier ones that are MEGA FEEDERS --> MEGA SATS

Fair enough. Having bit of fun playing the £15 5.30pm jobby which I got in from feeder by late regging and playing one hand :)

Lets hope number of runners improve!

Clock was set at 5 mins instead of 3 mins for the 7.15pm last chance sat tonight, all players will receive a refund who were still in, I think that was places 11 to 20 when the tourney stopped at 8.20pm. I have emailed Nicola to contact the players. Nightmare this online poker stuff. Apologies Simon

Another 4 players throuh last night, making 12 in total

Chip stacks were

509314
297738
199399
198004

The final Online Day 1 is tonight 8.30pm with feeders/last chance satellites from late afternoon

Hi Guys

£100 Deepstack £3 MEGA FEEDERS are running NOW online! Win your seat into this weeks £50,000 GTD Deepstack for £3!!!!!

4.30pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (10 seats GTD) --> 5.30pm £15 Freezeout (5 seats GTD)
 5.30pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (10 seats GTD) --> 6.30pm £15 Freezeout (5 seats GTD)
 6.15pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (20 seats GTD) --> 7.15pm £15 Freezeout (10 seats GTD)

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

These offered incredible value yesterday...don't think the word has spread to everyone so grab the value before everyone gets wind of them ;)

Thee one running now currently has 16 runners and 10 seats GTD!!! Next one starts at 5.30pm!

Cheers nicola

I'm sure this has been asked before, but do the winners of the £15 f/o have to use their ticket for this weeks tournament?

Hi Gazza

The satellites mentioned above are direct feeds into the onlinw day 1 each night as they are last chancers :)

The 8pm onwards satellites and all other £3 feeders give tokens so you can use them for any event within a few weeks.

If you're able to play the online day 1 then the last chancers are by far the best value for players ;)

Cheers Nicola

Just me disco'd from this 16.50 @ 5:30 ? :(

Probs login In atm

same must b the whole network

aye...site down...I was completely crushing a £3 feeder with only one player left to be eliminated  ;grr;


...not doing that well in a £1 feeder though   ;whistle;

whats likely to happen? im in the £15 last chance and a £1 feeder

Been told by support to check back in 5 minutes and support are aware of the issue. Hopefully the clock has been stopped.

Bear with us

Nicola will be on when she can

Also have a 44e CPT sat which will now be cancelled as there were only 4 regged when it went down

will we just get our money back? got stuff to do..

The whole network is down. I'm waiting like you to hear the latest.

I've been told that I'll be refunded for the tournament I'm in.

Summer Opening at DTD

Please find attached the PDF for Summer opening at DTD http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/schedules/jul-2013.pdf

From Saturday 13th July we will be holding two flights for the £100 Deepstack, 1pm and 5pm. Players who bust out of the 1pm have the option to re-enter into the 5pm which has late reg till 9.05pm. We expect the 1pm flight to finish around 10pm giving travelling players the option to drive home and get plenty of rest for Day 2, instead of having to spend additional money on hotels. This means that over this Summer period our opening hours will have been extended by an additional 10 hours, which puts a strain on our current management and staff resources. We have therefore decided to close on our lowest footfall evening, Wednesdays, which will allow us to spread the extra weekend opening hours and maintain the high standards that our members expect. This will also help us with the planned re-fit of the VIP area, bar and restaurant.

If you have any questions please feel free to contact me on facebook or email.

Simon Trumper
Club Director

The player with 509314 Chips. Proves you only need a Pulse and a PC to have a very good chance to win a minimum £300 #GrogDosh1

Regards

M

Is there any news on the software being fixed before tonights day 1?

Hi Guys

Yes sorry the software has gone down iPoker's end so all skins effected :(

Anyone involved with a tournament at the time will be appropriately compensated. If you have any concerns regarding a tournament you were playing please email support@dusktilldawnpoker.com, however we will be contacting players with details of refunds as soon as we have the full situation and therefore you won't need to contact us to receive the refund, we'll contact you.

Unfortunately it looks like the Day 1 won't be running but I will post on here as soon as the site is back up and running.

Any questions give us a shout!

Cheers Nic

For those of us (for one reason or another) that were holding off for the final online day 1, will there be another online day 1 this week we can play? Possible online and live Friday?

Never mind! Seems to be running now!!??

nice one sir!

Hey, the DTD Software is back up and running!!!! If you wish to play the online £100 Deepstack Day 1 please register ASAP, it starts in 20mins!

what is a reasonable timescale to hear from you...couple of days??? assuming there is a fair bit to sort out.

You should hear back tomorrow AM at the latest, as soon as we know we'll contact you :)

And get it in from behind about 4/5 in the FT to become chips leader .

I did get lucky a few times SORRY

Yes MPower and Welsh1980 were two of last night's four

Well done both

and the other blondes on Mon/Tues currently anon unless they out themselves! :-)

Hi Guys

The 8.30pm £15 FO has already generated 6 seats with 30 mins still to late reg (9.30pm).

Get involved guys :)

Cheers Nicola

erm...sorry to be a pain...all the feeders seem to have gone

Will get that looked into for you :)

Live Day1a tonight of this weekend's Summer Deepstack

5th Jul 7:00pm £100 Buy-In

£50,000 Guaranteed

Late Registration Until    5th July 11:05pm

Re-entry into the second Live Day One tomorrow if required


Plays down to the top 10%, who come back on Sunday in the money guaranteed at least £300

Apologies I'd this has already been asked and answered.

If I have a seat token and wish to register late tonight, can I register online for the live leg online before-hand and turn up when I want within the late reg time and have starting stack or if I pre-register online will be chips be live from the start?

THanks in advance

Hey

Yes you can register online now with your token and then we only enter your chips when you arrive :)

This ensures everyone receives a full stack upon arrival for all comps, just visit cash desk when you arrive and they will enter you (must be before 11.05pm)

Cheers Nicola

sorry to say this but I think with the weather they will lose loads this weekend,but I hope they don't

Late Reg is til 11.05pm so hopefully the sun goes in before then...or we move the club outside ;)

That sound fun

Last night

87 runners and here are the qualifiers for Sunday

13    1    Warren Fenwick
13    3    Brett Kendrick
13    4    Graham Dockerty
13    8    Michael Richards
14    1    Kashmir Sidhu
14    3    Paul Clark
14    5    Gavin Chamberlain
14    9    Robert Jones

No chip counts on site yet


Today at 5pm, the second Live Day One

Late reg is until 9pm

With 121 runners in the Online Day Ones and 87 last night, 208 total, there should be some value in the £50,000 GTE if you can make it

Took 539,000 through, from what I saw there was a 700k+ stack went through also.

U need help babe ?

Hi Guys

Yes it's a beautiful day but DTD are still guaranteeing £50,000 in today's £100 Deepstack (final tomorrow!) 5pm start today and late reg available til 9pm. Simon is literally sweating that guarantee with this weather!! Get on down to DTD before its too late!

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

Cheers Nic

Simon Aces Trumper
Delighted for Murray but with only 87 players last night I need 292 today to hit the guarantee, we overlayed £9200 last week, heading for closer to £15,000 this week so help us out and come and play while watching Wimbledon in the club :) late reg till 9.05 and with the extra early levels you can buy in for 150bb at 7pm!

Cheers Aces

Wish I could play but 3 weekends of functions coming up :)

after level 1 DTD has  97 players,

currently a £19,500 overlay

Late reg till 9pm, make day 2 and get min £300 cash

If you can get there, huge value for £115.....

160 players for the Saturday Day One yesterday, meaning 16 go through and 36 in total fighting over the £50,000 GTD prize pool this afternoon at 2pm, all guaranteed £300, in a field no doubt affected in size by the wonderful weather.

Chip counts from yesterday were

Anthony Long    13    2    870000
Waheed Ashraf 14    2    634000
Gareth Jutson    13    3    579000
Michael Wright    14    1    433000
Michael Varnham 14    7    342000
Sean Randall    14    9    312000
Gabriel Carter    13    6    312000
Paul Mason    13    9    277000
Scott Piecha    13    7    262000
Dominic Smith    13    1    256000
David Woolis    14    4    171000
Stephen Jakes    14    3    158000
Robert Cook    13    8    79000
Craig Stewart    14    5    60000
Evan Humphries 14    6    39000

Mr Long hit more sets then I have had hot dinners

Complete list of players and stacks and prize payout available anywhere?

Please and thank-you.

Payout is done manually be Simon this afternoon

All the player/chip info that has been released is on this thread. Ask the TD when you see the seat draw go up when you arrive if he has a list

That list shows 15, does the 16th person get through aswell? DTD results page shows that he has busted out.

There are 160 players, so I assume 16 through. You would have to ask the TD as to whether a couple of players busted in the last hand, or whether there is a chip count missed off

Understood, and will do.  Thanks.

Best of luck to Dom Smith

Win the lot mate

Friday players and chip count from dtd site
Graham Dockerty 616000
Gavin Chamberlain 539000
Robert Jones  422000
Brett Kendrick  367000
Michael Richards 242000
Paul Clark  182000
Kashmir Sidhu  161000
Warren Fenwick 82000

Ray Mac was player 16 who was paid his prize but has no chips for Sunday after getting it in with kqv 99 and a4. Big stack ace won felting the two in one go ...

Managed to ladder a few places at the start after a couple of all-ins got through, with 1 lucky escape A3 vs 77, hitting my ace.

Then a timing run into AA with 88 ended it all.

But from €3 online feeder to £400 i'm delighted.  Thanks to DTD for running these type of comps for grassroots, wannabe poker players like me!

are the poker games still being run after last and this week losses

Ouch - low blow?

Played the second live day yesterday, had some of the regular players on my table and enjoyed the experience and probably the most competent player was a young lady who's KK beat my AA (quads in the end) not sure how far she got but deserved to run deep.

One thing that I feel I have to mention - there was a player on my table who was playing his first live game, he was forgetting to put his blinds in, antes in and not realizing when it was his turn to go...he gave the impression he was a bit spaced out but I doubt he was I believe he was more a bag of nerves...some times we all need to remember we have been there. Some of the tuts and sighs and comments he got were not fair. I can guarantee if he took that experience away he won't ever come back.

Nothing vicious or vindictive was said it was more frustration from some of the more experienced players...we all want to win but we also all want to play...sometimes a little thought before we react is all that is needed

sorry if. it came across like that,but it was just a question

totally agree in general with your comments, esp more so in these type of comps, as some qualifiers will be from online sats so again maybe not used to a) level of buyin, b) actually playing live.  I've only myself played double digit tournaments, so certainly still reasonable inexperienced, and in general DTD is quite welcome when it comes to other players less experienced, but i have felt on occasion it to be very clique to coin a phase - which to a newbie is daunting in itself.

That said plenty worse places for the cliqueness, and I hope these carry on as its a great competition and the online qualifying works really well - but then i'm currently bias at the moment!

Ditto

Was talking to a random at Bradford naps

He said it was quite intimidating when he went and didn't enjoy the experience.

But I love dtd

The result yesterday was as follows

1    Michael Varnham    £12,500.00
2    Adebayo Odetoyinbo    £7,500.00
3    Ceri Rees    £4,500.00
4    Stuart Fox    £3,230.00
5    Brett Kendrick    £2,300.00
6    Waheed Ashraf    £1,700.00
7    Graham Dockerty    £1,400.00
8    Gabriel Carter    £1,200.00
9    Anthony Long    £1,000.00
10    Robert Jones    £850.00
11    Jonathan Grice    £850.00
12    Chris Cancelliere    £850.00
13    Paul Clark    £700.00
14    Dale Parry    £700.00
15    Dominic Smith    £700.00
16    Stephen Jakes    £600.00
17    Scott Piecha    £600.00
18    Gavin Chamberlain    £600.00
19    Alan Armitage    £500.00
20    Kashmir Sidhu    £500.00
21    Gareth Jutson    £500.00
22    Evan Humphries    £500.00
23    Jason Holland    £500.00
24    James Clarke    £500.00
25    David Woolis    £500.00
26    Nathan Jackson    £500.00
27    Robert Cook    £500.00
28    Kevin Houghton    £400.00
29    Warren Fenwick    £400.00
30    Paul Mason    £400.00
31    Michael Wright    £250.00
32    Michael Richards    £250.00
33    Sean Randall    £250.00
34    Craig Stewart    £250.00
35    Ray Mackintosh    £250.00

A reminder for this week onwards

Summer Opening at DTD

Please find attached the PDF for Summer opening at DTD http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/schedules/jul-2013.pdf

From Saturday 13th July we will be holding two flights for the £100 Deepstack, 1pm and 5pm. Players who bust out of the 1pm have the option to re-enter into the 5pm which has late reg till 9.05pm. We expect the 1pm flight to finish around 10pm giving travelling players the option to drive home and get plenty of rest for Day 2, instead of having to spend additional money on hotels. This means that over this Summer period our opening hours will have been extended by an additional 10 hours, which puts a strain on our current management and staff resources. We have therefore decided to close on our lowest footfall evening, Wednesdays, which will allow us to spread the extra weekend opening hours and maintain the high standards that our members expect. This will also help us with the planned re-fit of the VIP area, bar and restaurant.



So Online Day Ones from 8.30pm with feeders and Last Chancers from 4.30pm, then the Live Day ones from Friday onwards

Hi Guys

NEW £100 Deepstack Live Day 1's this week!! There is £50,000 GTD AGAIN THIS WEEK!!!

DAY 1s...

ONLINE Mon - Thurs 8.30pm (LR 10.05pm)

LIVE Thurs 7pm (LR 11.05pm) **NEW**
LIVE Fri 7pm (LR 11.05pm)
LIVE Saturday 1pm (LR 5.05pm) **NEW**
LIVE Saturday 5pm (LR 9.05pm)

Live Day 2 Sunday 2pm

Why not play Day 1 online to secure your seat for Sunday from home! The club is now closed on Wednesdays and therefore Mon - Wed online should see an uplift of runners in the online Day 1's!

Last Chancer satellites running Mon - Thurs...

4.30pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (10 seats GTD) --> 5.30pm £15 FO (5 seats GTD)
5.30pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (10 seats GTD) --> 6.30pm £15 FO (5 seats GTD)
6.15pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (20 seats GTD) --> 7.15pm £15 FO (10 seats GTD)

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

Cheers Nicola

Top marks to DTD for keeping the gte at 50k. Also for the Thursday live leg as this week it would be all i could play. Enjoyed the new-ish structure, lots of play cashed both days so obv a big fan....

R these guarantees correct only seem to have 5 seats for the 100 at 715

Hi Paul

the 7.15pm is defo 10 seats

the other 2 at 5.30pm & 6.30pm are 5 seats

cheers

ty must be going mad


did the 3£ 20 seat guarantee one start I cant find them in the lobby

No the £3 Feeder didn't get the starting runners :(

You have to get in early for those ;)

Yes, we will be keeping the £100 Deepstack GTE at £50,000 for the next 2 weeks, despite the overlays. These have not been helped with the weather, even though another heatwave has been predicted this week the GTE will stay the same, we published a 'series of events' so the headline buy-in and GTE cannot be changed.

We have added a live Day 1 Thu at the Club for our locals plus the extra Day 1 flight at 1pm flight on Saturday, hopefully these will get us more unique players, the re-entry factor in this event has been between 1.22 and 1.29 so far, so most players are just taking 1 bullet, which is fine, we did not budget for more than this.

I have has many interesting comments about this new format, many players preferring to play a set amount of levels and a normal prizepool payout on Day 1 (min cash x 2, around 12.5% of the field), but equally I have had players saying they like playing down to 10%, paying the bubble 'money back' and the 3x min cash on Day 2. However, I think it's fair to say that this new format has not INCREASED the number of players, in fact there is an argument to say it has done the opposite, however, the weather makes it really difficult to draw accurate conclusions from this series of £100 events, EVERYTHING is way down live and online, not just for DTD, but speaking to our partners, there has been 30%-40% drops everywhere, this is annoying because we really did this to trial a new format at the Club.

On the plus side, our footfall always drops 25-35% over every summer period since we opened, this year we tried to do something different instead of just sitting back and saying 'weather, holidays and WSOP' and watching the paint dry, so thanks to those people who have supported these £100 Deepstacks, there are 2 more left so please make sure those with £100 online tokens do use them up:)

Cheers for all the feedback,

Simon

huge sigh

need 5 players to start the 10 seat guarantee

total of 26 runners last night

2 made it through

6 money back


Chip stacks of the two who made it through were 709339 and 70661


Second Online Day One tonight at 8.30pm with feeders and last chancers beforehand

Last night's survivors

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRrMF_FGnVtGjmT9NV1oxwVvgU3nqF3AJEJwZnZkMyv-eIbNLv4)

Guy who finished in 3rd was a case of spazz gon spazz.

He had cerebral Palsy??

Do I?

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3lbshfLA71qdlh1io1_r1_400.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/BUX9n.gif%5Bimg%5D)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcr79dmaOA1rk5wnbo1_500.gif)

Hi

I have had a number of PM's and messages on facebooks asking me whether we are going to react to this weather and change the £50,000 GTE's.

Yes, this beautiful weather is killing us both online and live and it seems set to continue into August looking at the current forecasts.

BUT I can 100% confirm that we will be keeping these £100 Deepstack £50,000 GTE's, so if you have planned to come, please be assured nothing will change and we will take the overlays on the chin with a smile.

Cheers Simon

can I ask y the min cash as changed to £250 from £300

It 100% hasn't changed, I do the manual payout myself, the web site takes some time to be updated.

The min cash was alway £300 . Were u paid £250 for yr min cash ? Since this comp started , it was stated that the min cash going to be £300 . Enjoy this comp very much . Just has to make day2 first !

now I read it some where, taken off this website
31/35 only paid £250 may be error

 
 
Re: DTD Summer Deepstacks: £100 buy in and £50,000 GTD
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The result yesterday was as follows

1    Michael Varnham    £12,500.00
2    Adebayo Odetoyinbo    £7,500.00
3    Ceri Rees    £4,500.00
4    Stuart Fox    £3,230.00
5    Brett Kendrick    £2,300.00
6    Waheed Ashraf    £1,700.00
7    Graham Dockerty    £1,400.00
8    Gabriel Carter    £1,200.00
9    Anthony Long    £1,000.00
10    Robert Jones    £850.00
11    Jonathan Grice    £850.00
12    Chris Cancelliere    £850.00
13    Paul Clark    £700.00
14    Dale Parry    £700.00
15    Dominic Smith    £700.00
16    Stephen Jakes    £600.00
17    Scott Piecha    £600.00
18    Gavin Chamberlain    £600.00
19    Alan Armitage    £500.00
20    Kashmir Sidhu    £500.00
21    Gareth Jutson    £500.00
22    Evan Humphries    £500.00
23    Jason Holland    £500.00
24    James Clarke    £500.00
25    David Woolis    £500.00
26    Nathan Jackson    £500.00
27    Robert Cook    £500.00
28    Kevin Houghton    £400.00
29    Warren Fenwick    £400.00
30    Paul Mason    £400.00
31    Michael Wright    £250.00
32    Michael Richards    £250.00
33    Sean Randall    £250.00
34    Craig Stewart    £250.00
35    Ray Mackintosh    £250.00

This has already been explained brookie. It's a mistake

thank buddy must have missed that one, am going to try and get down Friday so just making sure.

Wouldn't class AK into TT in such a way tbh :) Even if it was you words like that are offensive

total of 23 runners

2 made it through

3 money back

chip counts of the two through are 380862 and 309138


Tonight is another £100 Deepstack online Day 1 at 8.30pm we have LAST CHANCERS running from 4.30pm

4.30pm & 5.30pm & 6.15pm £3 MEGA FEEDER (10 seats GTD)
5.30pm & 6.30pm & 7.15 £15 Freezeout (5 seats GTD)
INTO 8.30pm £100 Online Day 1

Also 2 extra LIVE Day 1's added this week...

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

He was probably a regular online player and so used to having his blinds and antes posted automatically. rotflmfao

fyp

Two flights on Saturday is a good idea. it should encourage travelling players who wouldn't make a long journey  to play a 30 min clock with no re entry.

The tweaks to the blind levels and antes are good news.

I am planning to play early flight on Saturday and the way I'm running I will no doubt be playing the late flight as well.

Hi Guys

Tomorrow night we are experimenting a £100 Deepstack Live Day 1 (7pm - LR 11.05pm) and an Online Day 1 (8.30pm - LR 10.05pm) simultaneously!!

Reasons to play Live on a Thurs - Make Day 2 (Sunday) and have the weekend free (in case the sun comes out) & gives you the chance to re-enter Fri or Sat if you don't make Day 2!

Reasons to play Online on a Thurs - Make Day 2 from the comfort of your home, so no expenses!

Min cash £300 on Day 2 & 1st Place GTD at £12,500 :)

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/100-deepstack-summer-50000-gtd/2346

Who's playing live tomorrow night???

Cheers Nicola

There were 33 players in the Online Day 1 last night

3 through to Sunday, 3 money back

Chip counts of the three through as follows

479,357
368,573
142,072

As Nicola says above, choice of Online or Live Day Ones tonight to get straight through to Sunday

been told next week is the last one is that right

Yes next week is the last £100 DS, we have a Sky Six Max event the week after an then August's schedule will be announced soon :)