Title: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 15, 2013, 12:47:21 PM John Murray, playing as MintTrav on Stars.
I am seeking 50% staking in the WCOOP for the following games: 16/09 Stud $300 + $20 16/09 Stud $200 + $15 Second Chance 17/09 Badugi $300 + $20 18/09 8-Game $300 + $20 19/09 2-7 Triple Draw $300 + $20 21/09 HORSE $300 + $20 24/09 Razz $500 + $30 24/09 Razz $300 + $20 Second Chance Total $2,665 A mark-up of 12.6% gives a total cost of $3,000, so 10% is $300, 5% is $150, 1% is $30, etc. I had a staking thread for the SCOOP earlier this year - http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=61078.0 - and had a couple of deep runs in that series, including an 11th and a 20th. In the last year, I have had these cashes: WCOOP Razz - 8/387 Stud - 44/381 SCOOP L Razz - 11/2192 8-Game - 74/2780 PLO Hi-Lo - 20/3719 SCOOP M Stud - 47/326 FTOPS Razz - 22/221 TCOOP Stud - 29/2407 Also some minor cashes in NLHE & PLO SCOOP, but they aren't so relevant for this. I have also previously made a SCOOP M FT in Badugi. I have included the 2nd Chance events only for Razz and Stud, as those are where I have had my best results, making the Razz FT in last year's WCOOP and just missing it in the SCOOP.
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SOLD OUT Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: rfgqqabc on September 15, 2013, 03:00:35 PM 5 please. Will send later today
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Sheriff Fatman on September 15, 2013, 03:04:41 PM 5% please.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 16, 2013, 12:54:53 PM 5 please. Will send later today Received, thanks. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: theprawnidentity on September 16, 2013, 01:35:21 PM Ill take a cheeky 2 ball. I love a sweat where I don't know whats happening.
Like watching Picken play hold 'em innit. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: rfgqqabc on September 16, 2013, 07:31:59 PM Ill take a cheeky 2 ball. I love a sweat where I don't know whats happening. Like watching Picken play hold 'em innit. (http://i.imgur.com/mUTIUSP.gif) Are you going to play regardless? I'll take 5 more if free? Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 16, 2013, 07:41:32 PM 5% please. Booked. Ill take a cheeky 2 ball. I love a sweat where I don't know whats happening. Like watching Picken play hold 'em innit. Received, ty. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 16, 2013, 08:05:54 PM Ill take a cheeky 2 ball. I love a sweat where I don't know whats happening. Like watching Picken play hold 'em innit. (http://i.imgur.com/mUTIUSP.gif) Are you going to play regardless? I'll take 5 more if free? Yeah, I'm playing regardless of how much is sold. 5% additional booked thks. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: redsimon on September 16, 2013, 08:08:23 PM 5% please. Can I bank transfer £94.35 John?
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: redsimon on September 16, 2013, 08:13:23 PM 5% please. Can I bank transfer £94.35 John? Transferred £94.35 to the account used for SCOOP stake Good luck John Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Eso Kral on September 16, 2013, 08:18:36 PM Will take 5% if can bank xfer tomorrow as out atm?
Am sure many will vouch not for my £ but for my prompt payment as a staker and stakee on here. If ok pls pm bank deets. If not no worries and gl either way Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 16, 2013, 08:24:37 PM 5% please. Can I bank transfer £94.35 John? Transferred £94.35 to the account used for SCOOP stake Good luck John Received thanks Will take 5% if can bank xfer tomorrow as out atm? Booked Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 16, 2013, 09:12:03 PM Stud
310 runners (reg still open) Two hours in. I wish this break had come a bit sooner. Fifteen minutes ago I was 36th. Had a couple of wrecks and now I'm 200/253. Stud Second Chance is about to start, but there are only 13 players registered. Thinking of swerve it if it doesn't pick up during the late reg. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 16, 2013, 10:07:08 PM 3rd Break - total registered 390. Currently 185/230. E. Katchalov on my right with lots of chips. What could be better?
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: rfgqqabc on September 16, 2013, 10:13:55 PM I wondered what he was doing when you had the KK up, made sense afterwards!
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 16, 2013, 11:04:15 PM Well, it's over, which is as much as can be said for it. Lost loads with QQ in the hole against AA in his hole and never recovered. I needed to get my chips in after that, but picked up a succession of unplayable hands and couldn't call against multiple bets before me. I hated letting my stack dwindle but I got put out of my misery eventually.
165/390, though it should have been a few places earlier if I had got the chips in. There were only 37 runners in the Second Chance by the end of the Late Reg, so I couldn't see any point in playing it. I'll refund proportionately. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Eso Kral on September 17, 2013, 11:08:05 AM Shipped £94.35 under ref Eso Kral
GLGL Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 17, 2013, 07:22:09 PM Shipped £94.35 under ref Eso Kral GLGL Received thanks Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 17, 2013, 08:12:37 PM Badugi
1st break - 182 runners so far. Current position 16/156. I had one hand where I potted a dealt J-high Badugi and got raised. The other guy stood pat. I broke my Badugi and drew a Q of the same suit for a worse made hand. I know that players can sometimes go mental with high Badugis but it's unlikely his was K-high. I didn't fancy drawing for a lot of chips, so I folded. Caught a nice 5-high Badugi in the last hand before the break. 3-way to the end, with Marcel Luske also standing pat. I tried to get him to call a 600 bet into a pot of over 2000, but he was too good to fall for that and folded eventually. I guess the 600 looks like it wants to be called, so maybe I should have blasted the pot, but that probably makes it easier for him to get away. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 17, 2013, 08:20:26 PM And I double him up, my dealt Badugi losing to his drawn one. He was drawing very strong though, as he ended up with A234.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 17, 2013, 08:37:55 PM Gosh, that man sure likes to draw. And doesn't mind paying for them. He's done it quite a few times.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 17, 2013, 09:05:33 PM 2nd break - 232 entrants so far (it's open for another hour if you fancy taking a shot)
Current position 22/159. Had one very nice hand and someone got stacked. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 17, 2013, 10:07:59 PM 59/150; 279 runners in the end
Got involved in a big hand 3-way against FTOPS winner jimbomber and MicroMillions winner dev209 - not such a good idea, which cost me chips. I made a 9-8 Badugi and called a reraise from jimbomber. We both stood pat and I folded on the next street. Obviously, if I was going to fold eventually, I should have just folded straight away, so that was a mistake. He told me he had an 8-high, which was prob true. I told him it was better than mine, but not how big a hand I had passed, in case they all highlight a weak spot. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 17, 2013, 10:28:34 PM I don't know if this was a good call or a terrible one, probably terrible. I could have been paying off with a very dodgy hand but it seemed such an obvious spot for him to be bluffing. Considering who it was, he is obviously capable of a bluff, which it was. Fold?
PokerStars Hand #104270415317: Tournament #2013090029, $300+$20 USD Badugi Pot Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2013/09/17 22:03:12 WET [2013/09/17 17:03:12 ET] Table '2013090029 10' 8-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: Bassysaffari (5000 in chips) Seat 2: Hariseldo723 (7192 in chips) Seat 3: dev209 (20348 in chips) Seat 4: sk86 (7793 in chips) Seat 5: ThoraAndrea (6572 in chips) Seat 6: iwonthurtyou (5858 in chips) Seat 7: MintTrav (8599 in chips) Seat 8: jimbomber (16754 in chips) MintTrav: posts small blind 75 jimbomber: posts big blind 150 *** DEALING HANDS *** Dealt to MintTrav [2c 5d 5h 4s] Bassysaffari: raises 150 to 300 Hariseldo723: folds dev209: folds sk86: folds ThoraAndrea: folds iwonthurtyou: folds MintTrav: calls 225 jimbomber: folds *** FIRST DRAW *** MintTrav: discards 1 card [5h] Dealt to MintTrav [2c 5d 4s] [Kd] Bassysaffari: discards 2 cards MintTrav: bets 300 Bassysaffari: calls 300 *** SECOND DRAW *** MintTrav: discards 1 card [Kd] Dealt to MintTrav [2c 5d 4s] [9d] Bassysaffari: discards 2 cards MintTrav: bets 900 Bassysaffari: calls 900 *** THIRD DRAW *** MintTrav: discards 1 card [9d] Dealt to MintTrav [2c 5d 4s]
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: rfgqqabc on September 17, 2013, 10:50:08 PM I really really couldn't comment. Looks like your doing well though.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 17, 2013, 11:06:33 PM I really really couldn't comment. Looks like your doing well though. That doesn't sound like praise. It was just my feeling in the moment that check/call was the best play. Didn't want to face such a big bet though. 5/90 at 4th break. Won a big hand against jimbomber. 40 get paid. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: rfgqqabc on September 17, 2013, 11:52:37 PM I really really couldn't comment. Looks like your doing well though. That doesn't sound like praise. It was just my feeling in the moment that check/call was the best play. Didn't want to face such a big bet though. 5/90 at 4th break. Won a big hand against jimbomber. 40 get paid. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 18, 2013, 12:04:13 AM Break 5 - 7/59.
Break 6 - 18/41. Break 7 - 22/26. It's slipping away. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 18, 2013, 02:56:30 AM Ran out of cards towards the end.
Finished 22nd for $837. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: ForthThistle on September 18, 2013, 09:11:03 AM Nice Start John.
GL with the rest. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Eso Kral on September 18, 2013, 09:14:03 AM I really really couldn't comment. Looks like your doing well though. That doesn't sound like praise. It was just my feeling in the moment that check/call was the best play. Didn't want to face such a big bet though. 5/90 at 4th break. Won a big hand against jimbomber. 40 get paid. Good start though John Get them next time.. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Sheriff Fatman on September 18, 2013, 10:20:59 AM Nice job yesterday.
I railed it for a bit around the bubble, but it was slow-going. Triple-draw Badugi is not the most spectator-friendly of variants. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: redsimon on September 18, 2013, 11:17:19 AM Good to see you cash, did they change format for Badugi? Always saw limit badugi tournies on 'Stars when I used to play there, games better at Pot Limit tbh.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 18, 2013, 11:20:12 AM Nice job yesterday. I railed it for a bit around the bubble, but it was slow-going. Triple-draw Badugi is not the most spectator-friendly of variants. LOL, you're not wrong. Badugi isn't fast anyway, but it was particularly painful at that point. When there were 40-odd left, a lot of the chips were on my table. I was about 8th then with 42k, there were two with over 70k, a couple with over 30k and so on. Shortest was about 10k. Another table had four players below 7k, including two on 2k, and their big stacks were 15-18k, so everyone on there was timing out to try to survive to the cash. Following that table was worse than watching paint dry. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 18, 2013, 12:06:18 PM Good to see you cash, did they change format for Badugi? Always saw limit badugi tournies on 'Stars when I used to play there, games better at Pot Limit tbh. Yeah, they used to be Fixed Limit, so it is quite a big change. I preferred FL. It wasn't as expensive to keep semi-bluff firing on every street against someone who was drawing, even if you missed yourself. Less experienced Badugi players keep calling and drawing and, more often than not, will miss and fold by the end, especially if you snow. If it goes wrong, the loss is easier to absorb in FL. If you have a high (ie weak) Badugi, firing hard is the best way to make them pay for their draws, which is fine in FL, but in PL you can lose your stack if they get there (or you can be bluffed off your hand at the end for a big loss). Also, there were times last night when I folded three good cards because it was too expensive to draw, whereas I would have come along in FL. Another difference is that PL does allow you room to slow-play a monster hand, which you would never do in FL. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 18, 2013, 11:10:48 PM 8-Game
Finished 234/658. 80 paid. Load of crap. Never got any traction. Didn't play well. Didn't deserve to get even as far as I did. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Free_Rollin on September 19, 2013, 02:10:31 PM Hi there, is there some still left for the remaining events? I'll take whatever is going. Thanks.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 19, 2013, 07:47:30 PM Hi there, is there some still left for the remaining events? I'll take whatever is going. Thanks. Hi, 5% went today, but you are welcome to have the other 4½%. I'll work out the cost in a while. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 19, 2013, 08:19:56 PM 2-7 Triple-Draw
37/267 at 1st break. It has been pretty mental. One hyper-aggressive player on my table, a couple of decent players and a couple of passive ones, but I've run well enough so far. Got to 4th at one point, but I felt a bit dizzy and came back down a bit. I'm surprised to see how many places I dropped in the two hands I lost before the break, but happy so far. This is going to get very swingy soon, so I could get chipped up or busted quite early. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 19, 2013, 09:10:06 PM 2nd break, 340 entries now.
And I'm.............. 255/275. Gruesome session. Been playing fast - hardly lost a hand in the first hour and hardly won one in the second. Unfortunately, I had lots of cracking starting hands, with plenty of chips going in along the way, but they wouldn't convert. 4-card hands are no good. Clearly, this session will be decisive. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: redsimon on September 19, 2013, 09:27:19 PM 2nd break, 340 entries now. And I'm.............. 255/275. Gruesome session. Been playing fast - hardly lost a hand in the first hour and hardly won one in the second. Unfortunately, I had lots of cracking starting hands, with plenty of chips going in along the way, but they wouldn't convert. 4-card hands are no good. Clearly, this session will be decisive. Good luck Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 19, 2013, 09:47:13 PM Good luck Thanks, but it's over. Crazy tournament. I played it high-variance, reraising with some monster draws rather than flatting (and then missing) and betting some missed draws where they had made a hand good enough to call with. I got caught snowing, which didn't help to get folds afterwards. It wouldn't have been a bad thing if I had then made some good hands. Took on the table maniac several times. I wanted to play hands against him on the basis that my selected starting hands must win more than his any-starting-hand strategy. Didn't work out like that. This one feels like a missed opportunity. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 19, 2013, 11:08:08 PM Just to be transparent about the stake:
Last night I was contacted by someone I play live against most weeks, who asked about taking some of the remaining four games. This afternoon he said he would like 5%, I said fine and he transferred the $. Later I saw that Sunny had asked on here for some of the final four games and I offered him the rest. I also sold this stake on the APAT forum, which was off-line tonight. When it came back up, I saw that two guys I know, and who have staked me before, had each asked for 2.5% of the final three games this morning, but I hadn't seen their posts until tonight. They asked before Sunny and he asked before the local guy confirmed. I kind of feel obliged to all of them, so I intend to accept them all and close the stake. This means that 55% would be sold rather than 50% for the final three games, which changes the stake slightly from what was offered. I suspect that no-one really cares about that, but better to explain it, I guess. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 20, 2013, 12:36:29 AM Hi there, is there some still left for the remaining events? I'll take whatever is going. Thanks. Hi, 5% went today, but you are welcome to have the other 4½%. I'll work out the cost in a while. $1490 / $2665 x $3000 = $1,677.30 x 4½% = $75.48 Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Free_Rollin on September 20, 2013, 10:51:08 AM Hi there, is there some still left for the remaining events? I'll take whatever is going. Thanks. Hi, 5% went today, but you are welcome to have the other 4½%. I'll work out the cost in a while. $1490 / $2665 x $3000 = $1,677.30 x 4½% = $75.48 Thank you, and I appreciate you stretching the stake to let me have a piece too. I'll ship the money over the weekend. Thanks and best of luck. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: redsimon on September 20, 2013, 11:00:40 AM Just to be transparent about the stake: Last night I was contacted by someone I play live against most weeks, who asked about taking some of the remaining four games. This afternoon he said he would like 5%, I said fine and he transferred the $. Later I saw that Sunny had asked on here for some of the final four games and I offered him the rest. I also sold this stake on the APAT forum, which was off-line tonight. When it came back up, I saw that two guys I know, and who have staked me before, had each asked for 2.5% of the final three games this morning, but I hadn't seen their posts until tonight. They asked before Sunny and he asked before the local guy confirmed. I kind of feel obliged to all of them, so I intend to accept them all and close the stake. This means that 55% would be sold rather than 50% for the final three games, which changes the stake slightly from what was offered. I suspect that no-one really cares about that, but better to explain it, I guess. Nice to be popular :) Just win us loads of $ please! Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 21, 2013, 09:24:39 PM HORSE
Currently 245/449 Fun table: shakentoucan - Winner of the WCOOP 8-Game last year _1453_1905 - Winner of SCOOP Stud this year highland - Winner of SCOOP NLHE Knockout this year (and runner-up in the HORSE the following night) Ruslan5051 - FTOPS winner this year 7Be/\eC7 - who has previously won $196k and $194k on WCOOP & SCOOP FTs raidalot - fresh from winning $13k last night and who took down two tournaments at the same time for $10k and $8k last week (one with >500 runners) dereeekho - not much lately, though he has had a few scores in the past Er, me It hasn't been easy. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 21, 2013, 10:46:26 PM Just to show that they're not all stars and there are less insightful players in this as well. I don't know how he gets to 7th. He must know I'm ahead. Okay, I'm not ahead, but he has junk and it looks like I'm strong.
PokerStars Hand #104448666844: Tournament #2013090042, $300+$20 USD HORSE (Razz Limit) - Level XIII (200/400) - 2013/09/21 22:16:57 WET [2013/09/21 17:16:57 ET] Table '2013090042 28' 8-max Seat 1: RabbiAkiva24 (9396 in chips) Seat 2: 7Be/\eC7 (2297 in chips) Seat 3: dereeekho (7684 in chips) Seat 4: Ruslan5051 (12675 in chips) Seat 5: raidalot (1817 in chips) Seat 6: highland (5073 in chips) Seat 7: XIAZHAO (3998 in chips) Seat 8: MintTrav (7073 in chips) 7Be/\eC7: posts the ante 40 dereeekho: posts the ante 40 Ruslan5051: posts the ante 40 raidalot: posts the ante 40 highland: posts the ante 40 XIAZHAO: posts the ante 40 MintTrav: posts the ante 40 RabbiAkiva24: posts the ante 40 *** 3rd STREET *** Dealt to RabbiAkiva24 [Qc] Dealt to 7Be/\eC7 [2h] Dealt to dereeekho [Js] Dealt to Ruslan5051 [ Aspades] Dealt to raidalot [Jc] Dealt to highland [7c] Dealt to XIAZHAO [3s] Dealt to MintTrav [Qd Kh 7d] RabbiAkiva24: brings in for 60 7Be/\eC7: folds dereeekho: folds Ruslan5051: folds raidalot: folds highland: folds XIAZHAO: folds MintTrav: raises 140 to 200 RabbiAkiva24: calls 140 *** 4th STREET *** Dealt to RabbiAkiva24 [Qc] [Ts] Dealt to MintTrav [Qd Kh 7d] [3h] MintTrav: bets 200 RabbiAkiva24: calls 200 *** 5th STREET *** Dealt to RabbiAkiva24 [Qc Ts] [9d] Dealt to MintTrav [Qd Kh 7d 3h] [9h] MintTrav: bets 400 RabbiAkiva24: calls 400 *** 6th STREET *** Dealt to RabbiAkiva24 [Qc Ts 9d] [Ad] Dealt to MintTrav [Qd Kh 7d 3h 9h] [6d] MintTrav: bets 400 RabbiAkiva24: calls 400 *** RIVER *** Dealt to MintTrav [Qd Kh 7d 3h 9h 6d] [8s] MintTrav: bets 400 RabbiAkiva24: calls 400 *** SHOW DOWN *** MintTrav: shows [Qd Kh 7d 3h 9h 6d 8s] (Lo: 9,8,7,6,3) RabbiAkiva24: shows [2s 4s Qc Ts 9d Ad 6s] (Lo: 9,6,4,2,A) RabbiAkiva24 collected 3520 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3520 | Rake 0 Seat 1: RabbiAkiva24 showed [2s 4s Qc Ts 9d Ad 6s] and won (3520) with Lo: 9,6,4,2,A Seat 2: 7Be/\eC7 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 3: dereeekho folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 4: Ruslan5051 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 5: raidalot folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 6: highland folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 7: XIAZHAO folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 8: MintTrav showed [Qd Kh 7d 3h 9h 6d 8s] and lost with Lo: 9,8,7,6,3 Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 21, 2013, 11:06:08 PM Break. Registration has closed at 576 players.
Currently 249/366. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 21, 2013, 11:56:35 PM Out. Lost plenty when it was folded to me in PLO Hi-Lo and I raised from the Button with AK27. SB reraised (with AA34). Got a low draw, with a possible scoop, but missed. The rest went soon after.
Not much more to say about it. Strangely, every player from my starting table is now out. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Free_Rollin on September 22, 2013, 02:58:27 PM I've transferred the funds to your Stars account. Thanks and good luck!
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 24, 2013, 09:12:37 PM Razz
Currently 133/290. Two hours in and I've been up and down. Haven't ever been below average, but I was up to 20th, then back in the pack, then hit 14th, then back down. Not sure there was much I could do about the ones I lost - Razz can be quite swingy. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 24, 2013, 09:23:21 PM FFS, this is ridiculous. Started with the best hand and got chips in way ahead on 3rd and 4th five times and bricked out with pictures while they picked up low cards every time. I don't mind being outdrawn my fair share, but this has been every time.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 24, 2013, 10:13:40 PM 3rd break - closed at 343 runners. Now 137/295.
Second Chance - just 66 runners. Currently 55/66, though that is only 1300 chips below the starting stack of 7500, so we're not in as bad shape as the position suggests. Lost chips mainly due to this hand. Some people just don't know what is a good hand and what they should be dumping, but sometimes they get there: PokerStars Hand #104583548493: Tournament #2013092050, $300+$20 USD Razz Limit - Level IV (100/200) - 2013/09/24 21:35:54 WET [2013/09/24 16:35:54 ET] Table '2013092050 5' 8-max Seat 1: raidalot (7031 in chips) Seat 2: aDrENalin710 (5872 in chips) Seat 3: Gunslinger3 (9493 in chips) Seat 4: dumBBass86 (6407 in chips) Seat 6: Tygem (8234 in chips) Seat 7: firas71 (7822 in chips) Seat 8: MintTrav (7786 in chips) raidalot: posts the ante 20 aDrENalin710: posts the ante 20 Gunslinger3: posts the ante 20 dumBBass86: posts the ante 20 Tygem: posts the ante 20 firas71: posts the ante 20 MintTrav: posts the ante 20 *** 3rd STREET *** Dealt to raidalot [Js] Dealt to aDrENalin710 [3d] Dealt to Gunslinger3 [8c] Dealt to dumBBass86 [Kc] Dealt to Tygem [8s] Dealt to firas71 [Ts] Dealt to MintTrav [2d 3h Ad] dumBBass86: brings in for 30 Tygem: folds firas71: folds MintTrav: raises 70 to 100 raidalot: folds aDrENalin710: raises 100 to 200 Gunslinger3: folds dumBBass86: folds MintTrav: raises 100 to 300 aDrENalin710: calls 100 *** 4th STREET *** Dealt to aDrENalin710 [3d] [Ks] Dealt to MintTrav [2d 3h Ad] [3s] MintTrav: bets 100 aDrENalin710: calls 100 *** 5th STREET *** Dealt to aDrENalin710 [3d Ks] [4d] Dealt to MintTrav [2d 3h Ad 3s] [7h] MintTrav: bets 200 aDrENalin710: calls 200 *** 6th STREET *** Dealt to aDrENalin710 [3d Ks 4d] [Qs] Dealt to MintTrav [2d 3h Ad 3s 7h] [9h] MintTrav: bets 200 aDrENalin710: calls 200 *** RIVER *** Dealt to MintTrav [2d 3h Ad 3s 7h 9h] [7s] MintTrav: bets 200 aDrENalin710: calls 200 *** SHOW DOWN *** MintTrav: shows [2d 3h Ad 3s 7h 9h 7s] (Lo: 9,7,3,2,A) aDrENalin710: shows [5c 8h 3d Ks 4d Qs 7d] (Lo: 8,7,5,4,3) aDrENalin710 collected 2170 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2170 | Rake 0 Seat 1: raidalot folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 2: aDrENalin710 showed [5c 8h 3d Ks 4d Qs 7d] and won (2170) with Lo: 8,7,5,4,3 Seat 3: Gunslinger3 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 4: dumBBass86 folded on the 3rd Street Seat 6: Tygem folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 7: firas71 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 8: MintTrav showed [2d 3h Ad 3s 7h 9h 7s] and lost with Lo: 9,7,3,2,A Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 24, 2013, 10:37:39 PM aDrENalin710 did win two events in this year's SCOOP, the 2-7 Triple Draw M and the HORSE H, so maybe he should get the benefit of the doubt, though I'm still not impressed with how he played that hand.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 24, 2013, 11:08:53 PM Main - 162/201
2C - 51/53 Got to the heights of 23rd in the 2C and then played a big pot for someone else's life, that would have put me 15th if I won it, but I dropped to 45th instead and then lost a bit more. I'm tired of being outdrawn. Gonna play live for the rest of the week. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 24, 2013, 11:17:19 PM - Won pots in both - 69/184 and 38/45. Not that stunning, but better than we were.
- Now 62/167 and 18/35! - 44/148 and 15/22. It's getting close in the 2C - 12 get paid. - Won a pot against Chad Brown. 38/134 and 16/17. It's not over in the 2C tho - I have 12k and 12th is on 21k. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 25, 2013, 12:00:47 AM Gone from the 2C, four places off the cash. Goes without saying that his hand was miles behind and he backed into a winner.
PokerStars Hand #104589771842: Tournament #2013092050, $300+$20 USD Razz Limit - Level XVI (1600/3200) - 2013/09/24 23:48:53 WET [2013/09/24 18:48:53 ET] Table '2013092050 9' 8-max Seat 1: A.P. Indy125 (50955 in chips) Seat 2: dumBBass86 (41199 in chips) Seat 3: jle90 (17230 in chips) Seat 4: MintTrav (7375 in chips) Seat 5: Pauli elTopo (25420 in chips) Seat 6: mischal (73595 in chips) Seat 7: mapof (10373 in chips) Seat 8: Ce$ar$pa (35728 in chips) A.P. Indy125: posts the ante 320 dumBBass86: posts the ante 320 jle90: posts the ante 320 MintTrav: posts the ante 320 Pauli elTopo: posts the ante 320 mischal: posts the ante 320 mapof: posts the ante 320 Ce$ar$pa: posts the ante 320 *** 3rd STREET *** Dealt to A.P. Indy125 [9d] Dealt to dumBBass86 [Th] Dealt to jle90 [2s] Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c] Dealt to Pauli elTopo [Ks] Dealt to mischal [5d] Dealt to mapof [Jd] Dealt to Ce$ar$pa [6c] Pauli elTopo: brings in for 480 mischal: folds mapof: folds Ce$ar$pa: raises 1120 to 1600 A.P. Indy125: folds dumBBass86: folds jle90: folds MintTrav: raises 1600 to 3200 Pauli elTopo: folds Ce$ar$pa: calls 1600 *** 4th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c] [2d] Dealt to Ce$ar$pa [6c] [5h] Ce$ar$pa: bets 1600 MintTrav: calls 1600 *** 5th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c 2d] [8h] Dealt to Ce$ar$pa [6c 5h] [8s] Ce$ar$pa: bets 3200 MintTrav: calls 2255 and is all-in Uncalled bet (945) returned to Ce$ar$pa *** 6th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c 2d 8h] [7s] Dealt to Ce$ar$pa [6c 5h 8s] [3h] *** RIVER *** Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c 2d 8h 7s] [6h] *** SHOW DOWN *** MintTrav: shows [Ad 7d 2c 2d 8h 7s 6h] (Lo: 8,7,6,2,A) Ce$ar$pa: shows [4c 9s 6c 5h 8s 3h 8c] (Lo: 8,6,5,4,3) Ce$ar$pa collected 17150 from pot MintTrav finished the tournament in 16th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 17150 | Rake 0 Seat 1: A.P. Indy125 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 2: dumBBass86 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 3: jle90 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 4: MintTrav showed [Ad 7d 2c 2d 8h 7s 6h] and lost with Lo: 8,7,6,2,A Seat 5: Pauli elTopo folded on the 3rd Street Seat 6: mischal folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 7: mapof folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 8: Ce$ar$pa showed [4c 9s 6c 5h 8s 3h 8c] and won (17150) with Lo: 8,6,5,4,3 Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 25, 2013, 12:03:34 AM 5th break - 66/108 in the Main.
I was 44/92 a few minutes ago, but lost a lot with 34A6. Paired the 4 and 6 and ended up with K-high. Down to 67/87. 48 paid. Had to race for my life but hand held up for once. 57/72. 6th break. 57/65 - it's looking like another painful ending. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on September 25, 2013, 01:15:24 AM Ow. Stupid game.
PokerStars Hand #104592305675: Tournament #2013090050, $500+$30 USD Razz Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2013/09/25 1:02:14 WET [2013/09/24 20:02:14 ET] Table '2013090050 2' 8-max Seat 1: JKMatthews (59897 in chips) Seat 2: CheapThieves (54320 in chips) Seat 3: MintTrav (9874 in chips) Seat 4: Se7enTr3y (19930 in chips) Seat 5: cladarth (24071 in chips) Seat 6: Kroko-dill (47899 in chips) Seat 7: Carster (4798 in chips) Seat 8: MrSweets28 (22624 in chips) JKMatthews: posts the ante 400 CheapThieves: posts the ante 400 MintTrav: posts the ante 400 Se7enTr3y: posts the ante 400 cladarth: posts the ante 400 Kroko-dill: posts the ante 400 Carster: posts the ante 400 MrSweets28: posts the ante 400 *** 3rd STREET *** Dealt to JKMatthews [9c] Dealt to CheapThieves [2s] Dealt to MintTrav [3s Ad 2c] Dealt to Se7enTr3y [3d] Dealt to cladarth [5h] Dealt to Kroko-dill [Kc] Dealt to Carster [Ah] Dealt to MrSweets28 [6h] Kroko-dill: brings in for 600 Carster: folds MrSweets28: folds JKMatthews: folds CheapThieves: folds MintTrav: raises 1400 to 2000 Se7enTr3y: folds cladarth: folds Kroko-dill: calls 1400 *** 4th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [3s Ad 2c] [8d] Dealt to Kroko-dill [Kc] [Ac] MintTrav: bets 2000 Kroko-dill: calls 2000 *** 5th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [3s Ad 2c 8d] [4s] Dealt to Kroko-dill [Kc Ac] [7d] MintTrav: bets 4000 Kroko-dill: raises 4000 to 8000 MintTrav: calls 1474 and is all-in Uncalled bet (2526) returned to Kroko-dill *** 6th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [3s Ad 2c 8d 4s] [Jd] Dealt to Kroko-dill [Kc Ac 7d] [4c] *** RIVER *** Dealt to MintTrav [3s Ad 2c 8d 4s Jd] [Th] *** SHOW DOWN *** MintTrav: shows [3s Ad 2c 8d 4s Jd Th] (Lo: 8,4,3,2,A) Kroko-dill: shows [3c 2d Kc Ac 7d 4c 6s] (Lo: 6,4,3,2,A) Kroko-dill collected 22148 from pot MintTrav finished the tournament in 62nd place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 22148 | Rake 0 Seat 1: JKMatthews folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 2: CheapThieves folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 3: MintTrav showed [3s Ad 2c 8d 4s Jd Th] and lost with Lo: 8,4,3,2,A Seat 4: Se7enTr3y folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 5: cladarth folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 6: Kroko-dill showed [3c 2d Kc Ac 7d 4c 6s] and won (22148) with Lo: 6,4,3,2,A Seat 7: Carster folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 8: MrSweets28 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: theprawnidentity on September 25, 2013, 01:50:09 AM There's a lot of cards in these games. I think you just make the rules up as you go along.
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Doobs on September 25, 2013, 08:50:09 AM Gone from the 2C, four places off the cash. Goes without saying that his hand was miles behind and he backed into a winner. PokerStars Hand #104589771842: Tournament #2013092050, $300+$20 USD Razz Limit - Level XVI (1600/3200) - 2013/09/24 23:48:53 WET [2013/09/24 18:48:53 ET] Table '2013092050 9' 8-max Seat 1: A.P. Indy125 (50955 in chips) Seat 2: dumBBass86 (41199 in chips) Seat 3: jle90 (17230 in chips) Seat 4: MintTrav (7375 in chips) Seat 5: Pauli elTopo (25420 in chips) Seat 6: mischal (73595 in chips) Seat 7: mapof (10373 in chips) Seat 8: Ce$ar$pa (35728 in chips) A.P. Indy125: posts the ante 320 dumBBass86: posts the ante 320 jle90: posts the ante 320 MintTrav: posts the ante 320 Pauli elTopo: posts the ante 320 mischal: posts the ante 320 mapof: posts the ante 320 Ce$ar$pa: posts the ante 320 *** 3rd STREET *** Dealt to A.P. Indy125 [9d] Dealt to dumBBass86 [Th] Dealt to jle90 [2s] Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c] Dealt to Pauli elTopo [Ks] Dealt to mischal [5d] Dealt to mapof [Jd] Dealt to Ce$ar$pa [6c] Pauli elTopo: brings in for 480 mischal: folds mapof: folds Ce$ar$pa: raises 1120 to 1600 A.P. Indy125: folds dumBBass86: folds jle90: folds MintTrav: raises 1600 to 3200 Pauli elTopo: folds Ce$ar$pa: calls 1600 *** 4th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c] [2d] Dealt to Ce$ar$pa [6c] [5h] Ce$ar$pa: bets 1600 MintTrav: calls 1600 *** 5th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c 2d] [8h] Dealt to Ce$ar$pa [6c 5h] [8s] Ce$ar$pa: bets 3200 MintTrav: calls 2255 and is all-in Uncalled bet (945) returned to Ce$ar$pa *** 6th STREET *** Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c 2d 8h] [7s] Dealt to Ce$ar$pa [6c 5h 8s] [3h] *** RIVER *** Dealt to MintTrav [Ad 7d 2c 2d 8h 7s] [6h] *** SHOW DOWN *** MintTrav: shows [Ad 7d 2c 2d 8h 7s 6h] (Lo: 8,7,6,2,A) Ce$ar$pa: shows [4c 9s 6c 5h 8s 3h 8c] (Lo: 8,6,5,4,3) Ce$ar$pa collected 17150 from pot MintTrav finished the tournament in 16th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 17150 | Rake 0 Seat 1: A.P. Indy125 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 2: dumBBass86 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 3: jle90 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 4: MintTrav showed [Ad 7d 2c 2d 8h 7s 6h] and lost with Lo: 8,7,6,2,A Seat 5: Pauli elTopo folded on the 3rd Street Seat 6: mischal folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 7: mapof folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) Seat 8: Ce$ar$pa showed [4c 9s 6c 5h 8s 3h 8c] and won (17150) with Lo: 8,6,5,4,3 miles behind? Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Skippy on September 25, 2013, 10:39:17 AM Ow. Stupid game. PokerStars Hand #104592305675: Tournament #2013090050, $500+$30 USD Razz Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2013/09/25 1:02:14 WET [2013/09/24 20:02:14 ET] Table '2013090050 2' 8-max Seat 1: JKMatthews (59897 in chips) Seat 2: CheapThieves (54320 in chips) Seat 3: MintTrav (9874 in chips) Seat 4: Se7enTr3y (19930 in chips) Seat 5: cladarth (24071 in chips) Seat 6: Kroko-dill (47899 in chips) Seat 7: Carster (4798 in chips) Seat 8: MrSweets28 (22624 in chips) JKMatthews: posts the ante 400 CheapThieves: posts the ante 400 MintTrav: posts the ante 400 Se7enTr3y: posts the ante 400 cladarth: posts the ante 400 Kroko-dill: posts the ante 400 Carster: posts the ante 400 MrSweets28: posts the ante 400 *** 3rd STREET *** Dealt to JKMatthews [9c] Dealt to CheapThieves [2s] Dealt to MintTrav [3s Ad 2c] Dealt to Se7enTr3y [3d] Dealt to cladarth [5h] Dealt to Kroko-dill [Kc] Dealt to Carster [Ah] Dealt to MrSweets28 [6h] MrSweets28 is Phil Galfond- you are playing with royalty! Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Longines on September 25, 2013, 02:32:47 PM miles behind? As a noob at, and fan of, Razz my first thought was 'ldo' - then ran it through a calc and was surprised to find hero was only 60/40 on 3rd, a dog on 4th and 5th and dead by 6th.Food for thought - in my own mind I would have put A27 way, way ahead of 469. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Tal on September 25, 2013, 05:35:55 PM miles behind? As a noob at, and fan of, Razz my first thought was 'ldo' - then ran it through a calc and was surprised to find hero was only 60/40 on 3rd, a dog on 4th and 5th and dead by 6th.Food for thought - in my own mind I would have put A27 way, way ahead of 469. Long way to go from 3rd street tho. Unpleasant run out for sure. Run better. (Am following thread with interest. VBOL) Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: Doobs on September 25, 2013, 05:46:48 PM miles behind? As a noob at, and fan of, Razz my first thought was 'ldo' - then ran it through a calc and was surprised to find hero was only 60/40 on 3rd, a dog on 4th and 5th and dead by 6th.Food for thought - in my own mind I would have put A27 way, way ahead of 469. If you look on 5th, he not only has the 9, he is drawing to an 86, and we are drawing to an 87. I wouldn't play his hand pre with all those low cards behind. I think MintTrav probably has to still go for it once he pairs on 4th, I probably would too. I have a real dislike of Razz, when it shows up in 8 game or HORSE, my only aim is to get through the round without going on massive tilt. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: redsimon on September 29, 2013, 12:32:13 PM Any updates on payouts?
Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on October 01, 2013, 07:32:58 AM Thank you to everyone who took part in the stake.
We won $837 in the Badugi and didn't play the Stud Second Chance for $215, making a total of $1,052 to distribute. I wish we had more to return. We had some opportunities - Razz was close and 2-7 was probably the one that got away, but these games are high-variance. Returns are:
Everyone should now have received their cash except Eso Kral, who I don't have bank details for. Could you pm them to me please? Thanks again. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: redsimon on October 01, 2013, 07:35:07 AM Thank you to everyone who took part in the stake. We won $837 in the Badugi and didn't play the Stud Second Chance for $215, making a total of $1,052 to distribute. I wish we had more to return. We had some opportunities - Razz was close and 2-7 was probably the one that got away, but these games are high-variance. Returns are:
Everyone should now have received their cash except Eso Kral, who I don't have bank details for. Could you pm them to me please? Thanks again. Received. Minor quiblle? Don't we get the $215 back at mark up (1.126?) Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: MintTrav on October 01, 2013, 07:45:05 AM Thank you to everyone who took part in the stake. We won $837 in the Badugi and didn't play the Stud Second Chance for $215, making a total of $1,052 to distribute. I wish we had more to return. We had some opportunities - Razz was close and 2-7 was probably the one that got away, but these games are high-variance. Returns are:
Everyone should now have received their cash except Eso Kral, who I don't have bank details for. Could you pm them to me please? Thanks again. Received. Minor quiblle? Don't we get the $215 back at mark up (1.126?) Yes, you're right. Sorry - hadn't thought of that. Gotta shoot to work now. I'll sort it out tonight. Title: Re: WCOOP - Razz, Stud, etc Post by: theprawnidentity on October 01, 2013, 08:36:27 PM Rec'd, ty.
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