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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25423627

I know they said they were under some sort of Duress, was this looked into or any attempt made to substantiate their claims...?

Seems about right to me, the sentence is enough to deter others and to punish the Mules for drug running..

i think its a little harsh, young nieve girls trying to make a quick buck

They can consider themselves lucky they didn't try it in a country with harsher penalties. If they want to risk it all to end up in some shithole prison or worse because of greed I don't have much sympathy for them really.

I have mixed feelings
On one hand it's a harsh sentance as said they are naive
On the other they knew what they where doing and the punishments

It's gotta be harsh otherwise more people would be willing to take a punt.

doesnt make any sense

Ha your dead right my post makes no sense !

They should know what they where getting into but obviously they didn't or decided it was worth taking the risk
Either way naive to think they wouldn't get caught

Ignorance/naivety about laws is no excuse. There's no excuse when it comes to drug laws, everyone knows the score.Lucky to get away with 6 years.

This.

Unless you have naïve children on the receiving end of these substances. Not harsh enough in my opinion.

they would of gotten worse sentances in this country and a hell of alot worse in others

they claimed too start with they were made too do it but came too there senses

and told the truth lucky for them they will still be young

when they get out and have there whole lives ahead of them

It was 11 kilos guys.

They got off lightly, I just hope it wasn't duff gear.

Imagine getting a 6 for a load of baby laxative

Ignorance certainly isn't a good enough reason for a soft sentence. I think everyone is made well aware that this is something that is very very dangerous and risky and also extremely illegal. There are programs such as 'locked up abroad' and when you're at school there are often topics about this sort of thing.

They knew the risks, they were incredibly stupid and in this world if you do something very illegal and very stupid and get caught then you deserve everything you get.

I think the sentence is reasonable.

Irrespective of the moralities they did get off light given the sentences available to the judge.

the reporting of this in the uk press was generally very "nice"

any reason why that was?

They were in Ibiza, and were probably casual drug users maybe even dealt a bit, I highly doubt that a gangster is going to put a gun to their head and demand that they fly to Peru and pick up a load of drugs. It's a cop out, the same 'story' you always hear and they hoped it would shave off a few years,cwhich it appears to have done IMO, wp lawyers! I don't have any sympathy tbh.

I'd love to know how much gets through & by what method. Putting it in suitcases seems a bit crazy with all the technology & sniffer dogs.

It's such a huge market all over the world, I would have thought the criminals would have developed a more sophisticated way of trafficking, then using drug mules.. Maybe it's just a low level thing..

Watched a movie called Traffic years ago, where the Traffickers were making dolls out of Cocaine and had a method of procuring the cocaine back into a usable form (Not sure if this was just "Minority Report" stuff for the movie) they were then exporting the dolls from Mexico to the U.S in large quantities..
Seems like a better way of getting drugs across borders..

Read a case in the UK years ago where a trafficker was bringing in Cocaine in Lead ingots, it was almost impossible to detect, the criminals name is Curtis Warren, he was one of the richest men in the UK all from drugs, Google the case, it makes an interesting read...

there are ways to liquidise it and then convert it back to pure powder form at the other end which allows for interesting ways of hiding it.


ldo mules work because there is zero risk other than the outlay for the product for the organiser, and if you send enough people a bunch are bound to get through.



this whole prohibition and not understanding it thing is proving itself to be a really effective way to combat drug use....

Good book on him 'Cocky'

When I was living in London, one of the guys in the pub was on about it being brought over in wine bottles, and then cooked back into solid form.

I think they just adopt a 'throw enough shit at a wall and some will stick' mentality to exporting it.

Given how rare it is we hear about massive pick ups by customs, I imagine they get a fair bit through. I remember reading some figures in a book, but can't recall exactly what they were.

I know its the Daily Star but this did make me laugh:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/356642/The-real-life-Breaking-Bad-Drug-dealer-Walter-White-jailed-for-selling-crystal-meth

Prohibition is dated and ineffective ......

i've just started boardwalk empire, and they realised it back then zomg hilarity that economics still dictates it's use.

Alcohol Prohibition was a monumental failure... Created more harm then it ever did good, gave organized a steroid boost...

There has to be policies that may calm the effects and control drug usage, we spend so much on anti drug policies, still drugs are easy to come by.... 

There's very little evidence to say that prohibition has been successful, there has to be a better way... 

http://watchdocumentary.org/watch/breaking-the-taboo-video_512a03704.html


ftw

Cliffs?

it's a taboo subject. prohibition must work otherwise why have we done it for so long......


narrated by Morgan Freeman <3, produced in conjunction with Bransons son, global commission on drugs and a bunch of other roflers. v interesting documentary discussing the worlds current inability to be logical on this subject.

Do you have a direct link to the full movie....? Can't seem to find one.. will watch tonight... Thanks in advance..

it's been taken down officially, but pretty easy to find iirc

edit it's on alluc fwiw

I've just gotten hold of a copy, and can sprend it to you if you want?

Link or Drop box? or share it in Google drive...? Thanks in advance

Sorry, I've never used any of those mate.

If you PM me an email address, I can sprend you a link to my copy.

Sent thanks....!!!

Shouldn't be long.

I think they are very very lucky only to get around 6 years in a foreign prison . If that incident happened in Singapore , they will be sentence to death by injections or hanging . There's no mercy at all to this drugs smugglers or drug pushers . Either what that 2 girls say to the court doesn't make sense. U don't carry drugs for people for no benefits . #NOBRAIBER

I passed through Brunei in transit a couple of times recently. Each time you land they tell you that the penalty for drug-smuggling is death. Bit OTT really, cos even though you know you have nothing it still gives you an unpleasant feeling. It seems a bit late to tell you as well - I'm not sure what you could do about it if you were carrying and you just found out about the death thing when you landed.

You could shit yourself, thereby tipping them off.

I think I would take death over 20 years in a shithole prison.

Singapore have one of the toughest prison in the world! Think they must be in the top 10. Trust me  if u go in there , there's no mercy at all. Rather get death sentence than get 20 rotten years in there .

With all the billions wasted by Governments fighting the drugs trade, their 'success rate' is nothing short of embarrassing.

Why the fuck don't they just buy the bloody cocaine & opium crop from the farmers, and process it for medical, or pharmaceutical use?

Farmers happy    ....    drug cartels very unhappy    ....    save a fortune on DEA/FBI/CIA wallahs etc    ....     raw materials put to 'good use'     ....    or am I as naive as the dopey bints in Peru?

I agree.. Many others do too, but it's politics not cure that's promoting this ridiculous war on drugs... 


I'd rather do 20 years in prison then face the death penalty...

Legalise, decriminalise and tax it all.

All this bollocks about 'the dogooders will then become addicts/ people who never did drugs will get addicted as they were illegal before' debate that people spout does not wash with me.

People will experiment with drugs to get high, regardless. Surely if it was controlled, it will be safer, and meanwhile the crime rate plummets, dealers and their associates suddenly have no trade, the government taxes it so gets a huge mainline injection, of cash pardon the pun.

We already tax and licence addiction forming drugs-alcohol and tobacco.

Yup

OT kinda but the irish bird is really fit