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Title: Jason Herbert !
Post by: leethefish on December 17, 2013, 09:01:15 PM
Love him  or hate him or just don't know what to think of him !!?

Is it really too much hard work to have him back ?
I think blonde needs him back !

He has such a big heart and will do anything for anyone!




Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: I KNOW IT on December 17, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Love him  or hate him or just don't know what to think of him !!?

Is it really too much hard work to have him back ?
I think blonde needs him back !

He has such a big heart and will do anything for anyone!




Bring back Herbie


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: celtic on December 17, 2013, 09:05:05 PM
I like him, I hope he likes me.

But, no. He can't come back.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: ruud on December 17, 2013, 09:06:45 PM
Love him.

More in person than on Blonde.... certainly agree Blonde is a lesser place overall without him.

Not knocking the Mods at all for their decision, but would love to see him given (yet) another chance in the New Year

 ;hide;


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: TightEnd on December 17, 2013, 09:08:27 PM
Last time we spoke about him and blonde (when the subject was last raised) he does not want to come back. Has an awful lot going on in his life and personally I think it is best for him NOT to come back



Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: leethefish on December 17, 2013, 09:10:58 PM
Love him.

More in person than on Blonde.... certainly agree Blonde is a lesser place overall without him.

Not knocking the Mods at all for their decision, but would love to see him given (yet) another chance in the New Year

 ;hide;

I suppose this for most.....

For a long while I thought he was a bell end ... Until I met him!

I remember the help for hero comp at DTD a couple of years ago he was walking over and I almost walked the other way !


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: sovietsong on December 17, 2013, 09:28:45 PM
As he doesn't want to come back me & Vince think he should have his ban removed & then we won't have any threads like this as it will just be another person that does t post.

What about boltpp?


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: Claw75 on December 17, 2013, 11:01:35 PM
As he doesn't want to come back me & Vince think he should have his ban removed & then we won't have any threads like this as it will just be another person that does t post.

What about boltpp?

(http://xenovive.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tumblr_laq2f3cn5r1qzhf66o1_500.jpg)

ooooo - mod friend :)


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: YEAHMAN123 on December 18, 2013, 09:57:21 AM
Yeah I know herbies got stuff on, think he's using Facebook as a substitute. I met him earlier this year when we both masterminded binking cheap sat seats for ispt day after day! :)))) and gotta say I like him, characters create discussions and controversy. I like him lol


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: YEAHMAN123 on December 18, 2013, 09:59:53 AM
I like him, I hope he likes me.

But, no. He can't come back.

Vin did he promise a nandos and not follow it through!? The new reward card is crap compared to the stamping one ain't it


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: blueace on December 18, 2013, 01:20:43 PM
I'm team herbert, if your reading this, I got my first place bink BUT, no need to pay out at that level, instead ill take down the 500 for a decisive meal ticket win.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: BangBang on December 18, 2013, 02:39:20 PM
I've made my feelings very clear on this subject.. I think right now Jason needs Blonde more then Blonde needs Jason, because of the things he has going on in his personal and professional life he needs some community support, let's get him back on, even if initially there is some containment.  His ban has certainly put things into prospective for him and has served a purpose...

Life is all about second chances...


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: celtic on December 18, 2013, 03:31:44 PM
I've made my feelings very clear on this subject.. I think right now Jason needs Blonde more then Blonde needs Jason, because of the things he has going on in his personal and professional life he needs some community support, let's get him back on, even if initially there is some containment.  His ban has certainly put things into prospective for him and has served a purpose...

Life is all about twenty second chances...

FYP


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: bobAlike on December 18, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
Bring him back, ignore Celtic.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: aaron1867 on December 18, 2013, 03:34:25 PM
I am a bit bored of reading about Jason and his ban.

I think it's about time the mods came and said whether or not he is coming back and put all this 'saga' to bed, then we don't have to read about it every other month.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: TightEnd on December 18, 2013, 03:40:15 PM
We've said he's not coming back, and have said so every time

Then another thread starts

Relations are fine with all of us and Jason. We all worked hard through multiple bans of shorter duration to get his posting to change so that it was not so much hard work, but he never did

Jason knows all this and accepts it


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: Marky147 on December 18, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
I am a bit bored of reading about Jason and his ban.

I think it's about time the mods came and said whether or not he is coming back and put all this 'saga' to bed, then we don't have to read about it every other month.

Think they have done that every time a thread is started?


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: Boba Fett on December 18, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
I am a bit bored of reading about Jason and his ban.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2013, 03:42:17 PM
I am a bit bored of reading about Jason and his ban.

I think it's about time the mods came and said whether or not he is coming back and put all this 'saga' to bed, then we don't have to read about it every other month.

I never thought I'd say +1 to one of Aaron's posts.

But

+1


Great guy, but far too much of a headache for moderators.

If I was in charge of blonde he'd have one warning, then one temp ban then he'd have been gone.

Jason had more chances than any poster deserved.

Time to move on.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: leethefish on December 18, 2013, 03:50:19 PM
I am a bit bored of reading about Jason and his ban.

I think it's about time the mods came and said whether or not he is coming back and put all this 'saga' to bed, then we don't have to read about it every other month.

Nobody has forced you to open a thread titled Jason Herbert !

I like the guy and miss his posts

So do many others .... If it's too much like hard work to keep him in line them fair enough
He's gone but not forgotten

@ tighty your wrong about him not wanting to come back in fact he would do anything pretty much to come back
@ camel   Same goes no one is forcing you to open the thread


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: TightEnd on December 18, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
No Lee, he must be telling you one thing and me another

Last he told me he did not want to come back


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: aaron1867 on December 18, 2013, 03:54:14 PM
Jason knows all this and accepts it
[/quote]

Last time we spoke about him and blonde (when the subject was last raised) he does not want to come back. Has an awful lot going on in his life and personally I think it is best for him NOT to come back



Not sure that makes it clear Rich, think it looks like there is possibly an option for Jason? Seems very confusing, rather than a clear "no, permanent ban" ha

I am a bit bored of reading about Jason and his ban.

I think it's about time the mods came and said whether or not he is coming back and put all this 'saga' to bed, then we don't have to read about it every other month.

Nobody has forced you to open a thread titled Jason Herbert !

I like the guy and miss his posts

So do many others .... If it's too much like hard work to keep him in line them fair enough
He's gone but not forgotten

@ tighty your wrong about him not wanting to come back in fact he would do anything pretty much to come back
@ camel   Same goes no one is forcing you to open the thread

Just for reference Lee, I would like Jason to come back to Blonde, it would save the awkwardness between the messages I share with Jason on Facebook! However, these threads are every other month & they are just confusing to realise what the current situation is. But we don't need these threads every other month or something like a diary bump, etc, etc.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: TightEnd on December 18, 2013, 03:55:26 PM
Its not confusing at all

He's not coming back

(Saved for posting next time a thread comes up)


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: leethefish on December 18, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
No Lee, he must be telling you one thing and me another

Last he told me he did not want to come back



Yes I saw.
I actually said to Tighty & everyone that I would kiss ass and suck cock to get back on.

I told him my opinion of having a laugh and his opinion of trolling must be close together but I would not want to cause him any headaches or extra work load by returning.



I love blonde but my problem is that I don't see a lot wrong in my posting style, I have never back stabbed anyone, always said what I believe and only ever poked guys who I know and see playing poker and would talk to face to face.

Of course I regret a couple of posts especially the Frankie thread and one or two that got people the hump but if I have ever offended anyone I have apologised.

Part of a text from Jason today


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: Tal on December 18, 2013, 04:05:05 PM
What a perfect reminder of both how loveable a character smashedagain was and of how much of a headache he must have been for the mods.

Thanks, Lee.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: The Camel on December 18, 2013, 04:05:18 PM
I am a bit bored of reading about Jason and his ban.

I think it's about time the mods came and said whether or not he is coming back and put all this 'saga' to bed, then we don't have to read about it every other month.

Nobody has forced you to open a thread titled Jason Herbert !

I like the guy and miss his posts

So do many others .... If it's too much like hard work to keep him in line them fair enough
He's gone but not forgotten

@ tighty your wrong about him not wanting to come back in fact he would do anything pretty much to come back
@ camel   Same goes no one is forcing you to open the thread

I opened the thread because I assumed there was some news about him.

Hope'd he'd won a tournie or something.

If people are giving their opinion they think he should come back, the opposing view should also be heard.

Free debate innit.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
He told me in October he felt better off without blonde and I 100% agreed that he did also after our convo.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on December 18, 2013, 07:00:21 PM
No Lee, he must be telling you one thing and me another

Last he told me he did not want to come back



Yes I saw.
I actually said to Tighty & everyone that I would kiss ass and suck cock to get back on.

I told him my opinion of having a laugh and his opinion of trolling must be close together but I would not want to cause him any headaches or extra work load by returning.



I love blonde but my problem is that I don't see a lot wrong in my posting style, I have never back stabbed anyone, always said what I believe and only ever poked guys who I know and see playing poker and would talk to face to face.

Of course I regret a couple of posts especially the Frankie thread and one or two that got people the hump but if I have ever offended anyone I have apologised.

Part of a text from Jason today



What about me ?


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: dwayne110 on December 18, 2013, 07:53:29 PM
Why so serious.....


Fuck me, let the guy back on, liven the forum up a bit.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: kinboshi on December 18, 2013, 10:06:22 PM
LOL herbieaments


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: pleno1 on December 18, 2013, 10:27:23 PM
I've made my feelings very clear on this subject.. I think right now Jason needs Blonde more then Blonde needs Jason, because of the things he has going on in his personal and professional life he needs some community support, let's get him back on, even if initially there is some containment.  His ban has certainly put things into prospective for him and has served a purpose...

Life is all about second chances...

nicely put.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: theprawnidentity on December 19, 2013, 12:07:57 AM
LETS GET RID OF THE PIGEON!!!!!


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 19, 2013, 01:11:12 AM
Who?


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: gouty on December 19, 2013, 02:41:34 AM
I could be Herbie but I always wake up the next day with 3/4 of a great post still on my screen, read it back and delete.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: Da Bookie on December 19, 2013, 03:43:28 AM
I`m agnostic when it comes to censorship :]


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: JK on December 19, 2013, 11:39:54 PM
LOL herbieaments

This ^.

Ill take next months Herbie thread. Anyone volunteering for February?


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: blueace on December 20, 2013, 10:29:59 AM
How about a thread exclusively for Herbs with a large disclaimer at the front that has to be read and agreed before entering. If its going to cost a few extra quid, let the herbie  Ahrt Ahrt know.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: George2Loose on December 20, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
I would kiss ass and suck cock to get back on.

Is this what prompted u to start this thread?


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on December 20, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
I would kiss ass and suck cock to get back on.

Is this what prompted u to start this thread?


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: pleno1 on December 20, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
How about if we paid blonde to put him back? Think q a few people would throw in 10 pound. Can even use it to pay the mods who work for free and may have to spend some time n him.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: pleno1 on December 20, 2013, 06:18:50 PM
2 month trial he won't misbehave because people have put money in and after being moral for 2 months he will ave climatised to being non confrontational etc nd if he does misbehave he will be banned for good a those who backed him previously verbally will have lost financially too and these threads would stop


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: leethefish on December 20, 2013, 06:45:13 PM
I would kiss ass and suck cock to get back on.

Is this what prompted u to start this thread?


Of course (-:


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: leethefish on December 20, 2013, 06:47:54 PM
Jason went out of his way to help me a couple of weeks ago .....it reminded me what a heart of gold he has thus I decided to start the thread .



Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: JGill_DTD on December 20, 2013, 07:41:19 PM
Jason went out of his way to help me a couple of weeks ago .....it reminded me what a heart of gold he has thus I decided to start the thread .



Think he's a bit of an unsung hero. He's given me a lot of really good advice and imagine he would do so for anyone else, regardless of history, should they ask.

I imagine he's happier without Blonde, and it's always easy enough to stay in touch with someone on Facebook if you genuinely enjoy their chat.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: RED-DOG on December 20, 2013, 08:21:10 PM
How about if we paid blonde to put him back? Think q a few people would throw in 10 pound. Can even use it to pay the mods who work for free and may have to spend some time n him.


Lol.
I don't know if I'm amused or insulted. You think you can buy people's integrity?

Not everything is about money.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: Claw75 on December 20, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
never really get these kind of threads tbh - Herbie is undoubtedly a character, but strong-willed, outspoken people like him will always divide opinion.  for everyone that loved his contributions to the forum, there will be another person who didn't.  As Jason said himself in the text quoted above, giving him chance after chance (like he already has had) is pretty pointless as the fundamental  issue is that he was/is unable to self-moderate his posts as he simply didn't see the problem with them. I know Tighty spent a hell of a lot of his own time trying to explain things to Jason in person to help him to remain a member of the forum, but there comes a point where you have to draw the line.

I've got a handful of friends that happen to be blonde members, and a heap more that have never heard of the place.  I manage to maintain all of those friendships without mutual access to the same forum, and surely Jason and his friends can do the same - just keep in touch on facebook/msn/IRL etc


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: kinboshi on December 20, 2013, 08:51:58 PM
£5k and I'll let him back on.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: The Camel on December 20, 2013, 09:07:20 PM
£5k and I'll let him back on.

You can't buy Red Dog's integrity

Kinboshi on the other hand.......................


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: kinboshi on December 20, 2013, 09:09:16 PM
£5k and I'll let him back on.

You can't buy Red Dog's integrity

Kinboshi on the other hand.......................


Oh, I'd ban him again a week later. Don't worry about that.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: celtic on December 20, 2013, 09:12:58 PM
I'd do it for a nandos.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 20, 2013, 09:14:51 PM
How about if we paid blonde to put him back? Think q a few people would throw in 10 pound. Can even use it to pay the mods who work for free and may have to spend some time n him.


Lol.
I don't know if I'm amused or insulted. You think you can buy people's integrity?

Not everything is about money.

Incentives for mods to mod and Herbie to not quite Herbie isn't the same as buying peoples integrity.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: pleno1 on December 20, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
yeah obviously i wasnt trying to offend anybody, i jsut meant that if the money goes anywehre it would make sense to go to you guys who work for free.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: AndrewT on December 20, 2013, 09:56:05 PM
£5k and I'll let him back on.

You can't buy Red Dog's integrity

Kinboshi on the other hand.......................

As George Bernard Shaw said, "We have established what you are, madam. We are now merely haggling over the price."


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: sovietsong on December 20, 2013, 10:04:12 PM
I don't really get offended by things on the internet. Is what he did really bad or just a build up of lots of small things?

Obv being nosey so if somebody in the know would like to pm me that would be super


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: paulhouk03 on December 20, 2013, 10:53:33 PM
Jason went out of his way to help me a couple of weeks ago .....it reminded me what a heart of gold he has thus I decided to start the thread .



Think he's a bit of an unsung hero. He's given me a lot of really good advice and imagine he would do so for anyone else, regardless of history, should they ask.

I imagine he's happier without Blonde, and it's always easy enough to stay in touch with someone on Facebook if you genuinely enjoy their chat.

He has helped me several times also

Such a hero

He just loves to chat and says how it is and has a unique brand of banter


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: BangBang on December 21, 2013, 12:25:42 AM
I'd do it for a nandos.

It's always about Nandos for you Vince... Always the Nandos....!!





Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: RED-DOG on December 21, 2013, 05:07:29 PM
How about if we paid blonde to put him back? Think q a few people would throw in 10 pound. Can even use it to pay the mods who work for free and may have to spend some time n him.


Lol.
I don't know if I'm amused or insulted. You think you can buy people's integrity?

Not everything is about money.

Incentives for mods to mod and Herbie to not quite Herbie isn't the same as buying peoples integrity.



Perhaps I used the wrong words, or the right words in the wrong context.

What I mean is, say we do accept money to allow Jason back on, what do we say when the next banned member wants to buy back in? Do we just unban anyone who can afford the fee and let those who can't pay stay banned?

I have absolutely nothing against Jason, in fact I quite like him IRL, but by his own admission, he can't abide by the forum rules.

Knowing that, how can we possibly allow him back and retain our credibility?

If we do it for money it's worse, we lose our integrity as well as our credibility.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: BangBang on December 21, 2013, 05:27:54 PM
How about if we paid blonde to put him back? Think q a few people would throw in 10 pound. Can even use it to pay the mods who work for free and may have to spend some time n him.


Lol.
I don't know if I'm amused or insulted. You think you can buy people's integrity?

Not everything is about money.

Incentives for mods to mod and Herbie to not quite Herbie isn't the same as buying peoples integrity.



Perhaps I used the wrong words, or the right words in the wrong context.

What I mean is, say we do accept money to allow Jason back on, what do we say when the next banned member wants to buy back in? Do we just unban anyone who can afford the fee and let those who can't pay stay banned?

I have absolutely nothing against Jason, in fact I quite like him IRL, but by his own admission, he can't abide by the forum rules.

Knowing that, how can we possibly allow him back and retain our credibility?

If we do it for money it's worse, we lose our integrity as well as our credibility.


Agreed...

If this was the case there would be a lot of people who would think they're above the law..

If self moderation is a problem, Jason should find another medium to air his views on, but if he can see the error of his ways and learn from his ban he should be allowed back and given a chance...

From the thread I realize this isn't going to happen any time soon, so in the meantime I'll use Facebook to get my fix of Smashedagain banter...


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: kinboshi on December 21, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
£5k and I'll still unban him.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 21, 2013, 06:59:50 PM
Big fan of Herbie, always delighted to see him, excellent partner for dinner and/or drinks.

Kinda hate online Herbie though, he's a dangerous man to be left unsupervised with a Keyboard :D

Heart of pure gold though, no doubting that - one of the good guys.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: bobAlike on December 21, 2013, 07:03:50 PM
Think people just need to be less sensitive.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: aaron1867 on December 21, 2013, 07:09:11 PM
Think people just need to be less sensitive.

This.

There is actual proper trolling happening on the net, rather than banning Jason for adding the odd harmless comment.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: kinboshi on December 21, 2013, 07:27:20 PM
Yes, that's it. He's banned because he offended our sensitivities ::)


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: millidonk on December 21, 2013, 07:37:12 PM
Do a vote innit. Democracy ftw.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: bobAlike on December 21, 2013, 07:47:23 PM
Yes, that's it. He's banned because he offended our sensitivities ::)

Would he have been banned if nobody had complained?


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: bobAlike on December 21, 2013, 07:48:55 PM
Do a vote innit. Democracy ftw.

It a one man one vote democracy we live in. Tighty is the man and he has the vote.


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2013, 08:07:42 PM
That is simply not true Andrew, I'm one voice in a mods team

Have been a minority view in many mod decisions, and go with the majority view

The mods would have banned Jason irrespective of any complaints or not.


Its all been said on this thread, the reasons why he won't be coming back. Not sure why we have to repeat these reasons ad nauseam


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: bobAlike on December 21, 2013, 08:18:44 PM
That is simply not true Andrew, I'm one voice in a mods team

Have been a minority view in many mod decisions, and go with the majority view

The mods would have banned Jason irrespective of any complaints or not.


Its all been said on this thread, the reasons why he won't be coming back. Not sure why we have to repeat these reasons ad nauseam

Sorry Rich it was meant to be a joke, should have put a smilie there. I'm just trying to have a bit of fun.

I imagine the complaints set it all off though. I also know the reasons why Jason won't be allowed back on blonde, I don't necessarily agree but I understand.

Merry Christmas


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2013, 08:20:09 PM
and Merry Xmas to you Andrew.



Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: bobAlike on December 21, 2013, 08:32:03 PM
and Merry Xmas to you Andrew.



Cheers


Title: Re: Jason Herbert !
Post by: bobAlike on December 22, 2013, 02:26:20 PM
I miss his diary

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=53416.0