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Snappy topic name for sure.

So far I've backed Luton at 8-1 for League Two.

Here's the 2014/15 Posh squad (I appear to be front row, far right)

To get the balling rolling...

Cod Meharly off to Rotherham

unders/overs on saints players leaving for more than 5 million?
i think the line is about 4 hope its alot less

Wigan for the championship 11-1

rate Rosler, think he might have had a real crack at auto promotion if he had been in all last season

talented squad, likely to stay together

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/next-season-winner

very early days of course

Think celtic might win the league.

You heard it here first.

no where is quoting next seasons prices yet

would love to see the odds on the league without celtic and also if they are offering ew on the league
celtic are going to be around 1.1 to win the league if not shorter so will be intresting to see what price
aberdeen are and if we are getting 1/2 odds for top 2 in ew could be some value there

Wolves and sheff utd double to be promoted.

FFP have a meeting in 8 days so this could lead to clubs like bolton. Wigan and Blackburn having transfer ban.

Could be worth a bet on Bolton to go down if so (also lost their best player now).

Aberdeen couldn't finish top 2 this year in the worst league I can remember. Doubt the will progress next year. The opposite in fact.

What odds you give me vinny?

Kasper schmichael leaving the foxes for the saints

Someone mentioned Southampton for relegation at 14/1?

Think there could be some mileage in this, given the upcoming departures.

don't be absurd. he might leave for european football, not to a smaller club

he signed a new cotnract last night, i gather

Damm i cant find the article i read 20 mins ago if you have kept him that will be a boost for you, piece i read said he was intrested in working with our manager if he was to stay.

How good is he Rich?

I've not really had the opportunity of watching him much.

I like the Wigan suggestion too, I'm a big Rosler fanboy.

To early to make a firm view yet imo

A lot can and will change in the next few months

Schmeichel is very good, very good indeed

wouldn't begrudge him or be surprised to see him go to a top club

has a slight weakness against crosses (bit of a flapper at times) but as a shot-stopper/distributor/leader and presence he is top notch

Nor me, though I assume Leicester will try & keep him.

Think I'd faint if he even considered Southampton.

Same here, Raplh, think he will go to the very top.

I think kasper is one of the best keepers around that age bracket thats why i was excited when i read saints a french and an itailian club were all possible clubs according to his agent, possibly talking up for better deal if he has just signed one.

Agree with this. Big fan of Dyche too. Think he could be future England manager.

lallana deal looks like it requires lallana to have to force the issue which might be a stumbling block
club arent willing to listen to offers as they have him under contract they dont need to sell
unless he comes out and says he wants to move this summer

dejan lovern is now also a target from the saints to the reds but £40million for the pairs seems too little
liverpool only have 50 million for transfers plus any money made from selling off fringe players
as a saint i would be looking for 50 million for the pair anything less and liverpool have robbed us

lol ok then

£50m for Lallana and Lovren robbery?? lol... C'mon, decent players, but let's not get carried away. £40m would be excellent financial business for the two.

Bournemouth get 25% of any transfer fee for Lallana, which needs to be taken in to consideration.

Seems about right to me

Considering Saints paid around 10 million for Lovren after a very good debut season in a league were defenders often take time to show there worth no reason they shouldnt ask double that.

Plus he is only 24 so will have a resale value as and when.

35m for Lovren and Lallana would be great business.

That said, Liverpool paid £35m for Carroll so they do love a punt so maybe you will get £90m the pair.

man u spent 27.5 million on fellaini same age as lallana and lallana will count as a home grown player for europe
i know which 1 i would prefer

lovern is 25 this summer and has a tonne of experience at international level for his age and for a defender isnt near his peak

i think 50 million the pair is fair considering both are under long term contracts and the saints are going to find it hard to
replace them not as if we can lure players with the promise of ECL football

Fellaini's price is irrelevant, as was Andy Carroll's to Liverpool, Juan Veron's to United Andriy Shevchenko's to Chelsea. These all proved (to date in Fellaini's case) massively overpriced deals.
I think Lallana and Lovren are both very good players, but neither are elite level, with potential improvement limited compared to a 20 year old. Obvs it's all relative to what clubs can afford, but when you take FPP rules into account i don't think we're gonna see the lavish overspends as much ongoing. The City and psg fines will scare most clubs into operating more sensibly.
£40-50million is huge compared to the combined outlay on both.

Not sure how one decent season automatically means Lovren's price should be double too!

You think they should just let the bigger club come along and take him then?

If Liverpool or anyone else for that matter wanted him at 10 million they could have taking that risk as they didnt they will and should pay more.

Infact Lyon are usually pretty shrewd so they will to have a sell on clause i suspect certainly if sold for more than they paid.

So i am now quite comfy with at least 17.5million being the starting price.

40 million is robbery 50 million is right for the pair

we have them under contract and dont need to or want to sell them

just because its liverpool a bigger club we shouldnt have to weaken our team

at a knocked down price we cant get a like for like replacement for that price

so i hope the saints board say stuff it not for sale but cant see it

as this will force the players to ask away  if they want to go and then the price will come down

I wouldn't guarantee either/both would get in the Liverpool first choice 11, Lovren more likely than Lallana. I'd rather Coutinho than Lallana for example, who Liverpool picked up for £8.5m. Southampton are a true team, similar to Atletico on a smaller scale. They all play well within their system, without any real superstars. Put any one player into a different system and they may not be as effective.

as for not being 20 lovern is 1 year older than rio was when he went from leeds to man u basically the right age to be buying a premiership center back

Yes, but Rio is one of the best defenders Europe has seen in the last twenty years, Lovren isn't.

oh well hope you dont need them for your first team and intrest wane as the saints hold out for more money cause i would love for everyone to stay for next season as at present there is intrest in up to 6 of our key players and if we lose all of them i would be punting on relegation

rio wasnt when he was bought he had potential to be and proved that potential

lovern has potential that would be more fullfilled at a bigger team

and my post wasnt about his price it was about the age he was bought at you had earlier posted that he wasnt 20

24/25 is an ideal age to be blooding a CB into a priemiership defence

It would be madness to buy Lovren and not play him he will certainly start as a first choice.

I hope Saints would laugh at a lowly combined bid of 30-35 they certainly should.

36M for the Pair.

Both parties Happy.

The most important player at Southampton is your manager. If he goes I would be worried. I'm very confident you could lose Shaw, Lallana and Lovren and not be close to relegation. I don't know the financial position of Southampton, but guessing they have to be relatively prudent... If you do get £60-70m for those three it's enough to get good replacements and secure the club financially in the medium term. If Southampton get offered £40m+ for the two it should be snapped off imo.

rio's 'potential' at his age was on another level to Lovren's... he had unique attributes in terms of pace, balance, composure etc which are very rare in a defender. It's like when United signed Rooney or City signed Aguero, you knew with a high degree of confident these we're going to be top level players. Lovren cannot be compared to Rio, solid defender though he is.

I am not comparing him to Rio

There was endless articles and comment at the time that his price was silly for a defender.

If Lovren plays a part at Liverpool for the next 4-6 seasons which based on his career so far he should then 20 million will be good value as mentioned earlier he wil still have a resale value of sorts then as well

Gooners are in for almost everyone according to the media.

One of them is Wilfried Bony and I wouldn't mind him.

Bony would be an excellent buy for them, really think he'd score a bucketload for a big team. He's had an amazing season when you look at how woeful Swansea were for most of it.

i havent compared him to rio just his age is same as rio

rio went for silly money 12 years ago lovern isnt worth that even in todays money but you said he ISNT 20, no he is 25 a much better age to buy a defender ready for the team without loaning him out for 3-4 years

Word is £20+ is too much for Lallana (agree) and we're seriously looking at Shiquiri at around £7m less.

Would like Lovren though.

And no one sane would pay £50m for them. £35m is about right IMHO.

If Lallana is 25m then how much for Aaron Ramsey ?

Shaw at 27m seems much more ludicrous.

Shaws price driven up by the fact he's 18

Thoughts on where Remy will end up?

Prolly Arsenal?

cole for southampton to replace shaw i dont like it personally never liked the guy decent player but his wage demands will likely be more than he is worth to a side like the saints

Looks like you're ahead of the curve here.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/ashley-cole/club-after-summer-transfer-window

Monaco or Southampton...Southampton or Monaco?

I notice if you press the other tab "next club" chorals have a tasty 11/10 Monaco, worth a couple of quid?

i am liking them odds not to bet on just as it means the crap i read when on ipad in bed is that just crap

bad news is not many english sides listed outside the big 4/6

i cant see it being worthwhile for either party
unless he wants to stay in the country then southampton might be his best offer

Gardner from Safc to Baggies confirmed today....

intresting list lampard could be scoring the winning penalty in the world cup final and coming back to the UK to find a new club
 wasnt that long ago the joleon lescott and gareth barry were regulars in the england squad/team now both left
to go on free's in the early 30s same for ashley cole

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2013-14/may/premier-league-clubs-submit-retained-and-released-lists.html