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The book is on track for publication in November. It's 90% delivered and will go to print in a few weeks.

As part of the publishing Moorman will be doing interviews etc

When I get my turn, what should I ask him?

Would you really give away your secrets to your opponents Mr Moorman?

Did you actually make money staking people?  If so, was it worth all the effort/worry/potential grims etc?

Do you think in a few years time you will utter the same words as Doyle brunson ??

I wish I'd never written that damn book !!

It's clever thinking really IMO with the popularity of the game it's going to sell big time esp for Xmas
Be as good as winning the Sunday million x5

Top five MTT regs that are toughest to play against.


Has Trigg "peaked" or will he continue to be ranked as one of the best online grinders for the foreseeable future.

the publisher is going to give us some copies for prizes/competitions etc

which is great, thank you

news nearer the time of what we will do

You should ask him if it's too late to get the cover redesigned.

What is the biggest animal he could kill with his bare hands?

Would a horse beat two rottweilers in a fight?

Would a yorkshire terrier beat a normal sized cat in a fight?

Also, ask him WTF is up with his obsession with animal violence?

why didnt he bother his arse to play loads of WSOP events, win them (as he's so fooking good apparently), and make me the winner of the WSOP fantasy league (thanks again mr novice)?????????

how many five-year olds...

all about who gets the first blow in horse v dog. one kick from a horse will KO the dogs fo sho, but if the rottie sinks his teeth in the horse will panic and bolt. although he may accidentally trample one of the rotties to death in attempting to escape, the ultimate victory has to lie with the rottie. i think 1 v1 wouuld be close but rotties gotta edge it 2 v 1. yorkies would lose to a cat every single time IMO

for chris moorman. do u ever get bored of playing poker and wish you did something else for a living?
what would you be doing now if you had bust yr bankroll long ago and decided not to redeposit - i dont mean dream job, just realistic?

Someone just told me about this thread. I will try and answer any reasonable questions people have over the next week or so (going to be very busy with playing at the moment)

Do you wish the tag read 'biggest winner in online poker history'  rather than 'biggest player in online poker history' as I'm pretty sure gobbo boy has you there.

Sick brag that Doyle Brunson did the foreward!

My apologies if I'm missing something here, but that seems like a very rude question to me Mr Vanwinkle.

How often do you play well online? Do you just feel like you always make the odd mistake or do you have stretches of a few days/weeks where you play really well or poor?

Who are the best/worst players you've staked?

Do you still stake?  What aspects of staking do you think you have got right and wrong in the past?

Who advised you to write a poker book, or did you think it was a good idea yourself?

that could be a book all on its own!

Who are your top five favourite tipsters in TfT?

Will you actually answer these questions?

the original aim when i started the thread was that when i interviewed chris about the book, i would pick the best..ask and then write up the answers

chris has come on and said he will answer on here since, so in due course i hope he will. if not i will ask him once the book PR is arranged and we have some copies etc etc

no dramas :-)

People probably underestimate how exhausting Sundays are,
Let him sleep lol

How do you manage to keep a decent body clock if multiple nights of the week you're up until 3-4am?

Chris Moorman ‏@Moorman1

After a 7 week hiatus from online poker due to the WSOP I managed to ship my 21st triple crown last night! #goodtobeback #catchmeifyoucan

I wouldn't call it secrets as such it is more my views and opinions on a huge variety of spots that can come up in poker based on the co authors recent playing experiences. I try to go into a lot of detail about the different options you have available to you when playing a poker hand and also show how stack sizes and your opponents tendencies alter what the best line to take is.

If I had quit staking after Dempsey won the Five Diamond WPT or Mohsin won the EPT Grand Final or Ryan Welch won the 5k WSOP event I would have been up a lot. Unfortunately it is not as easy as that as you have to reinvest your profits into the stable to try and get people who you believe in out of makeup. Eventually my luck ran out in staking after a terrible SCOOP and WSOP in 2012 and I decided to give it up completely. I have no regrets about backing though and through it I was able to make some long lasting friendships with people from across the world. When I look back on it now I feel like it was a lot of hard work and didn't allow me to diversify my life outside of poker as much as I would have liked. It was also hugely disappointing to get screwed over by a number of horses post Black Friday who I had helped out in the past. Backing is not something I would recommend people to get into but I had so much fun doing it and riding the emotional roller-coaster. I am way too old for it now though!

haha I hope so! because then it will have sold well :)

I'm just going to pick people who play a lot at the moment because a bunch of superheroes don't grind anymore. A quick scout of the pocket 5s rankings list and I picked out in no particular order (stars names)

Gnetaren
Cal42688
MrAndreeew
23Norab
Robinho

Honorable mentions to Brammer Middy and Trigg who know my game really well and all like to battle hard

Trigg has not peaked yet he is due a HUGE score more than anyone I know. I looked at his OPR for 2014 and he won for 6 straight months on Stars at the start of this year including SEVEN 100r wins!

The cover is being redesigned as we speak..

Like everyone I get bored and frustrated with poker at times but thankfully those times are very rare. I can't think of anything I'd rather do for a living than poker.

I have no idea what I'd be doing now but I would probably have ended up in some kind of city job because Economics and Business Studies were pretty much the only school subjects that I was interested in.

I make a ton of high variance plays and obviously not all of them are going to work out. Even if I have a successful day there is no chance that I didn't make a mistake. I try to look at it in the way that I force my opponents into making more mistakes against me than I make against them. Like anyone I have times when I am playing much worse than normal. I often find that they correlate with when I would rather be doing something else other than playing poker. In the past week I feel like I have been playing my very best poker and have been fortunate enough to run well at the same time. Next week I wouldn't be too surprised if I am nowhere near as confident in my game and as a result playing at a much lower standard. When you have confidence in poker good things normally happen.

Out of interest - humour an idiot - did you used to play pool?

http://upc-pool.org.uk/cueaction/honours-board/

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If so, we might both have played in the 2004-5 Universities Championship, although I didn't make the Dream Team ::)

Do you (still) play?

I'm too nice to write about the worst players I have ever staked but the best playesr I have ever staked include Taylor Paur, Middy, Mohsin,Ty Reiman, MikeTelker, Jason Koon and Dempsey. Taylor would probably be my number 1 pick though.

I sat next to Taylor Paur for almost a full day in a WSOP jobbie this year - what a fine young man he is.

I'm completely out of the staking business now. As Lil Dave said I really could write an entire book on this topic lol. In a short answer I would say that I got the best out of the majority of players because I created a relaxed environment where they wanted to win for both of us. I see a lot of stables try and bleed their horses dry for everything they can get and I feel like this creates resentment from the horse towards the backer and has a negative effect on their game. My biggest problem was that I was bad at saying no. At the beginning of my backing career Ty Reiman got 2nd in the PCA for 1.8 million and after makeup had been paid off I received close to $1 million. At the time I had profited about the same amount in 4 years of playing 6 days a week!  To win that much money in one day by effectively doing nothing fish hooked me into backing. After Ty's score I was inundated with offers by players wishing to get backed and for a while it was easier to get into my stable than it was to create a poker account. I had way too many players (around 30 at peak) and my resources were way too stretched for 30 players in high stakes tourneys. I chased makeup numbers too much rather than just getting rid of a bad horse and cutting my losses and I put too many people into the toughest tourneys. To be a good backer you need to be ruthless as well as reasonable, I was more than reasonable but just don't have that ruthless streak in me and ultimately I believe that is one of the main reasons why it didn't work out.

The simple answer to this is that I do the vast majority of my grinding these days in Vancouver and Playa Del Carmen. In these places the schedule is much more like a 9-5 job and imo the grind is a much more enjoyable experience. When I was playing in the UK back in the day I had a terrible body clock and poker came first before anything else.

Sick! Which university did you play for? I don't play nearly as often as I would like and whenever I have I am a shadow of the player I was. However, I'm looking into getting lasik eye surgery before the end of the year (laptop grinding messed my eyes up) and it will be easy to motivate myself to play more when I can actually see the balls properly!

Do you come over to the UK much these days?

If so, there is a Guest Spot awaiting you on Ch 861, Sky Poker. Might not sound the most exciting way to spend an evening, but we could spend plenty of time puffing the book, be a great way of promoting it. Truly.

Ha! Yes, we were all a lot better then :D

I was in the Cambridge second team that year. Great fun those comps.

I'm back for the whole of October actually and would definitely be up for doing that at some point then.

Pardon the dreadful pun, but BOOKED.

Send me a PM with available dates please, & I'll sort it.

Looking through the names there now Mark McCulloch, Ricky Taylor, Carl Caney and Paul Edwards what a blast from the past and some amazing talents

Absolutely.

Rob Cork was the star man at our place. Not sure what happened to him other than I'm fairly sure he got a PhD in something I don't understand (in before someone says poker).

Do you play cash games or strictly MTT's only?

Thanks for doing this ! I have a feeling the answer to my question might be different for each person but I'd like to pick your brain anyways. I've been grinding MTT's for 7 years now and have made money each year. I've never been able to make enough to soley do poker so I have a little business on the side selling crap on eBay lol. I balance the two together and scrape by but my dream is poker full time. I can honestly say I'm working 60 hours a week between the two trying to have some gtd income as well as keep chasing my dream. I watch training vids nightly, I've literally probably watched weeks worth of WSOP, EPT coverage. I try and find live streams with no hole cards, anything i can to learn. I guess my question is... how important is that 1st big score in propelling a player to the next level ? I've had a ton of 1K-9K scores but everytime i hit one i need to take out the money for bills because of my lack of other income. I have an 11th and 13th in tournies paying 60K+ to 1st and i feel like if either of those came through I'm in a totally different place in my life. I think some people think being a losing player is the worst but I'm convinced being a small winner takes the cake. It's torture

What do you consider you best moment in poker? Any particular poker aspirations left that drive you on?

I read previously about you tilt shoving, do you still do this? Do you consider yourself one of the best around at tilt shoving?

Ok, my dog fighting questions are still unanswered, but an actual pokery one.

You wrote the book with Byron Jacobs, what was the writing process? Did you both take seperate sections to draft out, or did he interview and do the writing, did he pick the topics or did you, did you disagree on hands etc etc?

Hey Chris,

I actually played pool with Rob Cork and Edwards in the England team. Mcullock was the toughest opponent we ever played. he never gave up on a game! but Edwards was on another level!

Anyway quick question. If you had to start again building a bankroll how would you do it?

Good luck at the tables!

Very honest reply.  I think this posted the reality behind the vast majority of staking operations.

+1 to my question also.  Winning players get their head around personal BRM but then get a stable BRM miles wrong.  Quite surprising, to me at least.  Every backer I have spoken to also vastly underestimated the amount of work required (at least, if you want to succeed)  There is ofc a very big difference between staking online and live.  Staking online, it is a pretty easy (still requires constant effort) task to make objective decisions based on schedule played, HHs, audits etc, such that 30 players is pretty straightforward to manage.  Live, it takes much longer to get any kind of evidence together that it isn't run-bad to blame.  There are also an infinite number of ways a horse can turn you over too.  I've not dabbled too much with live staking, but having experienced just trying to chase a couple of players around the Rio, 30 would definitely be too much.

Good luck with the book.

Do you actively target triple crowns or are they just a byproduct of your schedule?

Favourite place you have played poker?

How many HHS do you look over a week?

If you have a super tough hand and want to get instant feedback who do you send to on skype?

Have you ever been staked?

How good is your girlfriend? I heard she plays really well have you intensively coached her or?

How much of your success is down to the volume of play and sheer work you've put into your game and how much is due to natural talent? For example do you think you've done better than some players who seemed to have more 'talent' than you? Obviously it's impossible to know, but I'm interested to know what you think the answer is.

Why do you think you took so long to achieve success on the live stage? Was that just variance or were there other factors involved?

I interviewed you many many years ago and you seemed genuinely fascinated by poker at the time. I remember you talking about widening UTG opening ranges and your eyes lit up at discovering something new and exploitable. Do you still feel the same way about the game? What still excites you about poker?

TYVM

Rob cork still plays occasionally.

Ricky Taylor is still playing in Durham and Paul Edwards is living in London.

I played for UWE during those years. Chris' team KOd us on the KO stages of the first year. In the quarters or semis....

Good old days

Can you confirm whether he was multitabling?


Also, Mr Moorman, are you now considering adding a new chapter to the book, after this somewhat leftfield derail?

Do you think mtts are harder to win as there's more learning tools for players  ?
Do you find it harder to win than a few years ago ??
Do you look back and think yeah I've done ok and enjoyed it ?
Have you ever after a bad beat or a daft move thrown the laptop out the back door and gone n kicked it a bit ?? ( like me !! )
Do you still enjoy playing ??

Cheers for doing this Chris :)

In terms of live poker, was the biggest initial target to get a bigger score than your dad?? ( That was a fun night in Manchester way back!)

Moormans a good generous lad that deserves everything he gets. Can't believe I wasn't asked to write the foreword tho

As far as I am aware the book hasn't been finalised...get your effort in now!

Oh yes, what a wonderful thing that was!

Do you have a list of contents about topics you cover in your book?


I'm really intrigued about your bubble play as you seem to play completely different to any winning reg I've seen. I think I made a thread on blonde where you called off on the pure bubble with 44 and then tonight you called off 55 with decent stack in the big 109 where I think no other reg would call/potentially open depending on who is behind. If you speak about this in the book is definitely buy it and be interested in reading more.

 http://www.boomplayer.com/de/poker-hands/Boom/10255171_297AA0505C

What do you think about Patrick Leonard ?

What poker book would you recommend (other than your own of course).

But the 44 shove was good?  The 55 doesn't look obviously bad to me either.  Maybe marginally bad, but once you have put money in and have a pair in late position, the maths is going to be ok a lot of the time isn't it?  Some nationalities I am definitely more prone to call here.  Russian, yeah ok I'm calling.  Chris has got a lunatic image to protect too.

i didnt call it bad at all, i just meant different to most people who will fold in these spots close to 100% of the time.

I started with cash games but now play strictly MTT's. The feeling of winning that you get from shipping an MTT is much more exciting to me and less of a grind than cash games imo. It also helps that tournaments are much softer!

Building a bankroll through MTTs is very tough and not really something I would recommend if you are strapped for cash. Having to play through thousands of players at the low stakes to get a good score means a ton of variance and a lot of heartache along the way. I think it is better to play low stakes cash or SNGs until you have a more comfortable financial situation and then move back to MTTs where there will be much less pressure on you for instant success.

I think the LAPC win was undoubtedly my finest moment in poker so far. To finally win a huge live tournament after a number of near misses was incredible. As far as poker aspirations go I would love to win the live triple crown one day.

I read through my old well on here the other day and laughed hard at those tilt posts. It was all true but I've now learnt to have a lot more control whilst playing and no longer tilt shove or go nuts in the chatbox.

On a typical grind I load up Stars, Full Tilt, Party Poker, Winamax, .FR and Ipoker. Playing 5 main sites I get plenty of opportunities to win on multiple sites. Once I have won two tourneys on different sites I obviously actively target the third by adding a few extra tourneys into my schedule on eligible sites. For example this week I am two thirds of the way to my 22nd triple crown with the first two legs locked up on Stars and Tilt. This has meant adding more euro site tourneys with smallish fields to my schedule which I normally wouldn't play. Unfortunately I'm still searching for that elusive 3rd win though, with Monday nights grind being my last opportunity to make it happen.

My favourite place to play live poker has to be the Crown Casino in Melbourne for the Aussie Millions. I've not been the past couple of years but am excited to go back in 2015. It has a special place in my heart because the first big live final table I made was there.

I don't look over HHS as such but prefer to watch Runitonce videos and save boomplayer hands that I've played and ask people whose opinion I respect about potential lines and possible what ifs.

If I could only send a hand to one person it would be Chris Brammer.

I've never been staked but have obviously sold pieces before for certain tournaments.

My fiancee has been playing poker way before she met me. She used to live with AMAK and Roothlus and learned a lot from them (particularly AMAK who she spent a lot of time discussing hands with and who imo is one of the most underrated players in the game.) She is always watching me deep in tourneys and asking questions of why I make particular plays and is very keen to learn more. Poker is more of a hobby for her but has been a profitable one thus far.

Do you review every lobby and look at results like a human computer? Thing is last week I luckboxed the low profile "Turbo Thirty" and had Trigg on the e phone at 9am Monday looking for ways to help me spend $4k on random horses as I had binked - and I am like how so you know and the reply was Moor told me :)

Triple crown no. 22 has now been won!

What do you you think about state of poker right now? I mean what do you think,are the games dying? How beatable are the high stakes Mtts these days?

Chris' book is out next week, launched in London

blonde will have 5 signed copies for a competition, so watch this space for next week

 

What happened to the jacket?

I think moorman is great. A big inspiration, role model and I'm a big fanboy but is he allowed to say most successful on the front cover?

Of course he is allowed, I would be allowed to say i was the most successful player on my own book cover too. Wouldnt be true of course, but who would prevent it?

where does it say he is the most successful on the front cover?

the previous cover had biggest, the newest one has it changed to most successful.

Newest one also is going for a teasing chest hair pic too

I guess.

Good luck anyway Chris, hope it's a success (no pun intended)

Ok sorry.  Didn't realise the two pictures were different.  He is the most successful online mtt winner in history though isn't he?  Who has cashed for more than him in online mtt's? (In before total cashes don't include buyins etc etc and it prove's nothing ala hendon mob)

Is the book just about improving your mtt online game or is it more of an autobiography?  Would probably buy it if it was the latter and not the former.

Quite fortunate you didn't intend a pun, because you didn't do one.

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I'm also a huge Chris Moorman fan (genuinely), but anyone wondering why he isn't sponsored probably only needs to check this thread. I think I've written more on a post-it note.

This post seems more than slightly unreasonable to me and perhaps even more unnecessary.

Chris has never been a prolific blonde poster and that has been less so over the years with his online and live commitments combined with his travel schedule. He has however done an 'In the well' on blonde.

I've only spoken to Chris a few times and he's always come off as a very well meaning guy irl and I've never heard anything of the contrary from anyone in poker when Chris's name has come up which is very rare these days.

This thread was created by Tighty and someone messaged Chris to let him know it existed. He took the time to come and answer questions and I was pleased at his honest responses, particularly with regard to his stable as it always intrigued me that everyone I talked to a while back was backed by Moor. He also came back 5/6 days later to reply to some more posts.

He hasn't done the hard sell at all on here with his book. He could have definitely done that if he wanted and blonde would have supported him but that's seemingly not his style and fair play for that.

Maybe he is someone that doesn't want limelight and a sponsorship deal. Maybe he is someone who hasn't been offered one because he doesn't thrive under media spotlight. Who knows? I don't recall him mentioning that he was upset because he doesn't have a deal somewhere. Reputation wise there are few who are more deserving and I think to the Blonde community, that matters most.

This post seems more than slightly unreasonable to me and perhaps even more unnecessary.

:)

Sorry if it came across that way, it wasn't my intention. I meant much the same as you really, that it's just not what he's cut out for or seems to want. Might be wrong but seemed a pretty decent illustration of this to me.

He's been in mags I've worked on many times and at no point has been anything other than a really genuinely nice guy. He's also been about as reliable as BT internet.

But I didn't for one minute mean to suggest that made him a bad person. Apologies if it came across that way.

FWIW as someone who has worked in poker media for over 10 years now I think there is an awful lot of b****cks talked about player's having a duty to promote the game. Absolute crap. They have no duty to us whatsoever, and I am and was always grateful for players taking the time to talk to me. Even the sponsored ones. Their duty is still not to the media, it's to their sponsors.

This does not apply to Chris if he is not sponsored, but I would have thought these two things were aligned?

If I owned a Poker Site & employed a Pro, I would expect him to be all over the Poker Media trying to raise the profile of my site.

Sure, but that in that case means their obligation are still to the site and not to the media. If they don't want to do an interview and the sponsor is happy then that's that.

There was a thread on Blonde years ago started by Moorman, 2006ish ( I think it was Moorman ). In it he set his target as making around 100k over the next year at cash games and trying to buy a house. I may have got a completely different player in mind here and be mixed up, I don't think I am though. Thinking back to those days seems like a different age given Chris's achievements and place in poker now. In your mind, did you ever believe any of this would be possible while you were grinding the micros?   Also, if it wasn't a Moorman thread mentioned above. Who was it?  

Well yes, but I cannot imagine the Sponsoring Site would NOT want their Site Pro to do media stuff. That's a significant reason for sponsoring them, I'd have thought.

You are right as to who they are serving though, their first obligation is to the Site, not the media, but I would really think the 2 things are much the same. You serve the site best by being accessible to the Media. That's the key to recreational sign-ups.

We don't disagree on this. You're dead right.

I'm just saying poker websites/magazines/TV shows/whatever shouldn't feel they are entitled to anything just because a player is sponsored. The two things are not directly connected.

I have never understood why the holy grail for many poker players is to be sponsored.

Surely we all play this game to avoid responsibilities and do exactly as we please?

Why give up the freedom we enjoy to be at the beck and call of a poker site?

Sure I understand why skint members, losers and break even players would love to be sponsored.

But for people like Chris, surely the aim is to win enough NOT to sponsored?

Maybe the aim is to win enough not to be 'staked', but being 'sponsored' is a whole different kettle of fish, imo.

Meh.

Interviews, blogs, glad handing strangers, being told you have to somewhere specific at a certain time etc etc

Poker players like to do as they please, when they please. Being sponsored is the very opposite of this.

No chance I'd accept any sponsorship if I was Moorman unless it was just wearing a patch when I chose to play poker.

Any other responsibilities? No thanks.

Might as well have a proper job.

Work out the hourly for being a sponsored pro when you're being put into live majors every couple of weeks and getting 100% rakeback online in return for a few interviews a few extra stops on the tour. Backers usually stipulate that they want ALL of a players action when they are being backed and often want their horses to only play whatever they are being backed for. With sponsorship from a site, said MTT pro can also grind cash games on the side with 100% rakeback which as you can imagine would be pretty lucrative.

Most of the guys with big sponsorship deals think the same as you Keith and the sites know this, so they make the price right, and everyone has a price whether they'd admit it or not. Chuck in most MTT pros having far less money than their OPRs suggest for a variety of reasons and thats why everyone wants a sponsorship deal.

Of course this was all much more applicable a few years ago. Sponsored pros are dropping like flies these days so I can't imagine the deals now are anything close to what they were in FTPs heyday.

As I said, I understand why the vast majority of players would take sponsorship in a flash.

But, for example, Phil Ivey.

He obviously hates being interviewed, doesn't like making videos or meeting the public.

And he definitely doesn't like being in a place at a specific time.

He must be wroth 10 million minimum, so why would would he put himself through all the stress and annoyance being sponsored involves just for a few extra quid?

If I make the November Nine I'm a million to accept sponsorship unless it simply involves wearing "Fat Bastard Poker" patch for the duration of the event.

How much media work does a sponsored pro actually have to do for said site?  I guess also it must depend on what level you are at for example I would think the players with the really big reps would be expected to give more in terms of media obligations than the MTT grinders who play thousands of tournaments a year.  

I defo get the benefit of sponsorship.  I mean imagine you were a pro footballer at a lower levels and someone offers you sponsorship in return for you doing a little in return your not going to knock it back for a few extra grand, and similarly how much do you reckon guys like Federer got for endorsing Gillette and its not like he is short of the cash.  

He put up with it for a millyball a month :)

Federer probably gets 100 times more from Gillette than the average poker player does from a site.

And does a fraction of the work to earn it.

Maybe 1 day shooting an ad, and another day being a sponsors guest at some function.

Nadal probably gets as much fronm Stars as all the regular pros put together.

If I was a poker pro, the way I would look at  it is - 'Ok, I have to do a few meet & greets, and chat with a few journos about poker'

For that, I get my buyins, and get shots at all the biggest scores going, and don't have to lump up the massive buyins.

I doubt many pros can afford to travel around the world playing $10k MTTs, but having a sponsorship deal affords you that opportunity.

To me that doesn't seem like a bad trade off?

The million a month figure included his payments as a part owner but to give an idea of how much of this came from sponsorship

http://www.subjectpoker.com/2011/07/ivey-benyamine/

Ivey was paid well for televised appearances. He received $170,000 for wearing a Full Tilt logo during his appearances on Poker After Dark‘s most recent season, which amounted to about 25 hours of poker at the Aria Resort & Casino this past November.10 He received $25,000 “for London Press” and $5,000 “for press at WSOPE” this past September,11 $50,000 for wearing a logo during his second place finish in the 2010 Aussie Millions 100,000 AUD tournament, and a few more similar payments. Given how often Ivey wore Full Tilt’s logo on television during this time period, it is likely that he received many such payments via other methods.

Not including the 2014 final table, 53 of the 54 november niners played the final table with a sponsorship deal.

Its probbaly not much of a stretch to imagine that your life outlook will be shared by a lot of these people (mostly poker pros and rich businessmen), so the sites offering sponsorship have probably factored that into the price

'Amaya share price continues to tumble as investors' confidence in striking deal with The Camel wanes' would be an amusing FT headline though

This guy would have a buddy in the 'no sponsorship' club though

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Apologies for the derail, gl with the book Chris

Don't think it's a derail. Alun and tikay were discussing the merits of Moorman being a sponsored pro.

I was just thinking aloud, why would Chris need or want to be a sponsored pro?

Best post by far.

What % of the game do u think makes up of you being emotionally stable and not letting anything get to you personally in order to win consistently over just pure knowledge of the game itself?

Do u believe people can still win if they are playing lower table count without HEM/poker tracker or is all this stuff a must use nowadays?

How long did you go before you bought this software? And do u find it critical to have it when playing your schedule night in night out?

Gl and defo want a copy!

Just to repeat. Cos and I actually agree on this. I just worded my post badly in a (failed) attempt to try and look witty.

On a theoretical level I agree with you. I think it's nuts.

In practice (from my limited experience of speaking to pros) I think a lot of them get quite unsettled by the variance and the lack of reliable income. They just want a steady stream of cash they can rely on I guess? First person to make that point to me was durrrr (clang) but he definitely wasn't the last.

Also I'm sure some, wrongly, see it as like winning a prize. Sort of like proof you are one of the best players.

I think a lot of them get a sense of personal satisfaction and validation from it too. We see professional sportspeople endorsing products and being sponsored, so it is entirely understandable why we equate poker sponsorship with that level of success. I imagine it really helps santise poker with their friends/family too.

Being a sponsored player is a lot of hard work these days (rightly so too), Keith is spot-on with it not being in tandem with what some pros are looking for out of life.

It's why I think poker awards are silly too.

Just because 183 people vote for you as "cash game player of the year" what does that actually mean?

Diddly squat.

Surely the only validation you need as a gambler is to look at your bank account and if you've got more money now than you did a year ago you are a success.

If you have less, then you are a failure.

I usually don't really care what people think of me as a gambler or a poker player. (I must admit I was slightly upset when Keys passed my staking thread for the WSOP main event at 1.5 to Mike McDonald for his Bank of Timex, but that was pretty much the only time)

I haven't had to have a proper job for 25 years (I chose to work for Blue Squirrel, it was the only job I've ever really wanted and I chose to leave), so although I've had plenty of lean years, that's all the personal satisfaction I need.

On reflection the reason Keys passing my thread to Timex upset me was the implication that I was using my status as a fairly popular poster on Blondepoker to screw money from people by selling at over inflated rate.

I don't care if Keys or Timex think it is ridiculous that I charged 1.5. They are entitled to their opinion.

I do care massively if they (or anyone else) think I was attempting to rip off stakers.

My intention when I make a staking proposal is to always offer a +ev package.

Preordered a copy on Amazon and it says that it's due mid November!
Is that right? I thought it was out sooner than that?

Moorman is legit entitled to bring out a book about how to play MTTs, unlike some other people who have done the same, as he has been at the top for many years.

Hope the book does really well and although I doubt how valuable books are these days as a training resource, I'm sure it will have lots of great nuggets of information in and be well worth the price.

You know PI was getting $900k a month from FTP right?!

Jesus Christ.  He is cako.

Jared Tendler's new podcast with Chris Mooman, for anyone interested

http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/radio-podcasts/the-mental-game-radio-show/interview-chris-moorman/

love chris and known him a very long time in poker, think what he has achieved is fantastic and hope the book is a huge success. Would love him much much more if him or any of the other previous lock pro's could give any information on Jen Larsen, loads of us got royally screwed over and given its been 7 months since anyone got paid its 99% certain that money is worth bs. Any information on her/her wherabouts/contact details would be amazing.

The book arrived in our UK warehouse last week and has now shipped out to retailers. It should be available very soon - in the next few days.

Came home from work to a copy sitting on my doormat today 👍

Hi Reaper30 - hope you enjoy it! I'm sure posters here would really like to here your thoughts, when you've read it.

Best regards
Dan

Morning Dan,

In case you were not aware, Chris Moorman won the Sky Poker High Roller last night, finishing 1st in the 72 runner field for just shy of £10,000.

Rigged obv.

::)

:D

Blimey - no, I wasn't aware! Thanks for letting me know. Phenomenon!

Ha!

Won himself a UKOPS Bracelet, too.

No big deal really, in the context of Chris's CV, he wins these sort of things every week, & Triple Crowns for fun, but not the worst timing, to coincide with the Book Launch. Sky Poker do not allow the use of Third Pary Software, either, so he did it the old-fashioned way.

yeh beating me in a huge flip :D  thankfully got myself a piece of his win, wd moor!!

moorman1 Wins 24th PocketFives Triple Crown

13 More than anyone else

http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/moorman1-wins-24th-pocketfives-triple-crown-590261/

Wow.  That is awesome.

The man is sheer class, well done Chris.