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Title: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: jgcblack on July 24, 2014, 03:05:38 PM
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/10016563_94AE5F840E

Vs his total range I really like it...
Vs his exact hand I still like it quite a bit...


Mental JB???


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: George2Loose on July 24, 2014, 03:29:27 PM
Make a hand
Value bet it
Don't bluff
Win monies


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: George2Loose on July 24, 2014, 03:29:48 PM
Get a tattoo of that somewhere u can see it


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: pleno1 on July 24, 2014, 03:37:45 PM
Wp imo


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: pleno1 on July 24, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
Although from experience I feel people overfold turn but when they do call can be sticky otr. I like the turn c/r river is player dependent.


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: jgcblack on July 24, 2014, 03:40:38 PM
Make a hand
Value bet it
Don't bluff
Win monies

lol.... i mean it when i say "first in a while".

It's now very rare that I get to a river and put all my chips in and don't want a call.

This seemed a really good board, good hand and good spot.

No???


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: pleno1 on July 24, 2014, 03:45:49 PM
We definitely should be bluffing lot at 50nl it's very different to 10nl.

People won't hand read as well as of players at higher stakes and won't be used
To 3 Barrel bluffs etc so we should be bluffing a lt of river and thus having a decent red line


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: jgcblack on July 24, 2014, 03:50:01 PM
We definitely should be bluffing lot at 50nl it's very different to 10nl.

People won't hand read as well as of players at higher stakes and won't be used
To 3 Barrel bluffs etc so we should be bluffing a lt of river and thus having a decent red line

seems reasonable... maybe some skype chat about tendancies you've found at this level and 100nl would be helpful if you're up for it?


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: George2Loose on July 24, 2014, 03:59:18 PM
Make a hand
Value bet it
Don't bluff
Win monies

lol.... i mean it when i say "first in a while".

It's now very rare that I get to a river and put all my chips in and don't want a call.

This seemed a really good board, good hand and good spot.

No???

I'm not speaking from any type of experience so apologise if that came across a little crass but my assumption would be that at 50 nl people would still be happy to call down regardless. If this isn't the case then I take my comment back (altho still think it'd be a cool tattoo)


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: PathFinder on July 24, 2014, 05:15:03 PM
Thoughts on leading the turn as opposed to chk/raising? Obviously we are bet/folding turn and if called chk/folding/calling dependent on river and bet size but your bluffs wont cost as much


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: jgcblack on July 24, 2014, 06:06:50 PM
Thoughts on leading the turn as opposed to chk/raising? Obviously we are bet/folding turn and if called chk/folding/calling dependent on river and bet size but your bluffs wont cost as much

I understand where you're going with this.. however we are effectively talking about trying to get people to fold the huge majority of their UTG range with this bluff.  So I'm talking about AA/ KK/ and potentially even 77 and 1010 (might be insane..).

On top of that we have half of the 9's in the deck and this is exactly how I would play 89 of every suit and type.  I personally think I don't make this bluff with any other hand than 99 which gives us a decent value:bluff ratio considering I probably also have 77 and 1010 myself for value (and maybe 22).

I don't think people will fold AA to a turn lead... however it might be sexier when we have a value hand - we might be able to make people blowup with that line.


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: PathFinder on July 24, 2014, 06:41:55 PM
That's seems logical. If your chk/raising your value range on the turn then makes sense to throw 99 in there. It's just as a personal preference I would lead the turn with my value hands (sets, 2 pair straights) so I can lead 99 and other semi bluffs which should have a ratio of 1:1 bluffs and value

Nice Hand to review


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: Rexas on July 24, 2014, 09:49:58 PM
I like this one too tbh :p Put him in a total coffin, good hand/board to go for it on, yh :)


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: muckthenuts on July 24, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
I guess we may as well make turn a shade smaller like $12.50


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: JustinSayne on July 25, 2014, 12:47:40 AM
Nice hand, dont expect them to fold sets though mate


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 26, 2014, 06:21:57 PM
yh +1 to lord pleno, the line is good, but don't be fooled into thinking that because you have bluffed the turn you have to follow through and bluff the river 100% of the time. The turn bluff in itself should show a profit and combine with x% bluff with river will be a good play, but you can add to the profit of the turn/river bluff by giving up sometimes when you have a specific reason to think they are not folding the correct amount of time to make the river bluff a vacuum profit.


Title: Re: Rate my bluff - first in a while...
Post by: rfgqqabc on July 29, 2014, 03:40:38 AM
I'd prefer bigger on the turn to smaller. And hes never folding 7s. Pretty tempted to fold flop as I feel people bet 1.5 here when they have worse/random cbetting hand.