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Title: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: pleno1 on August 27, 2014, 04:37:55 PM i feel like many people shove ott here, but is bet 1/4 pot better
assume he jams all pairs/ax pre. is shoving turn better to fold out his flop floats with bdfd that may jam/continue? assuming he flats all tx otf, and may have aa/kk/qq slowplayed too Table '955657214 66' 6-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: genghissun (9044 in chips) Seat 2: pads1161 (12980 in chips) Seat 3: _math_&ç!( (13853 in chips) Seat 4: prosiak505 (15047 in chips) Seat 5: shumeilove (17980 in chips) Seat 6: Jayshosefat (14085 in chips) genghissun: posts the ante 160 pads1161: posts the ante 160 _math_&ç!(: posts the ante 160 prosiak505: posts the ante 160 shumeilove: posts the ante 160 Jayshosefat: posts the ante 160 pads1161: posts small blind 400 _math_&ç!(: posts big blind 800 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to pads1161 [9h Jd] prosiak505: folds shumeilove: folds Jayshosefat: folds genghissun: folds pads1161: raises 984 to 1784 _math_&ç!(: calls 984 *** FLOP *** [4s Tc Ts] pads1161: bets 1856 _math_&ç!(: calls 1856 *** TURN *** [4s Tc Ts] [8s] pads1161: around 9k stacks, 8kish pot Title: Re: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: PathFinder on August 27, 2014, 07:20:38 PM What about checking to induce due to stack sizes?
Title: Re: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: KingPush on August 28, 2014, 12:40:42 AM If we bet small will allow us to have a bet/folding range and bet/calling range which will be more beneficial than just a shoving range right?
Title: Re: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: PathFinder on August 28, 2014, 01:57:55 AM What about checking to induce due to stack sizes? ive just realised we dont have a straight lol Title: Re: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: Honeybadger on August 28, 2014, 02:47:42 AM If we bet small will allow us to have a bet/folding range and bet/calling range which will be more beneficial than just a shoving range right? Theoretically we should have multiple bet sizes in most spots, with a balanced range for each. In this partIcular spot this means we'd have a bet small range (most of which we'd be bet/calling and some of which we'd be bet/folding) and a jamming range. This particular hand does not sit very comfortably in either a bet/folding or a bet/calling range. Which is why most players would probably instinctively prefer to jam this hand. Title: Re: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: DMorgan on August 28, 2014, 03:09:11 AM Sounds hugely player dependant, Tx makes up a decent amount of his peeling range especially if he's peeling too tight in this spot which from his pretty weak OPR I think he might be
Bet/folding is kinda gross if we're gunna get c/jammed by his floats that turned spades but I don't think thats too much of a concern in this hand cos I suspect he'll be on the passive side I think bet/folding small vs this guy is going to be good, we don't need that many folds for it to be profitable, his floats that don't turn a spade will add up to enough combos I suspect and we're going to get to realise our equity a high %age of the time I reckon. Title: Re: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: wazz on August 28, 2014, 03:13:26 AM I dislike betting a lot and think we should be c/fing almost all the time, if I do bet it's like 2k with the intention of jamming most non-spade rivers I think
Title: Re: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: Paul Walters on August 29, 2014, 12:55:31 AM Bet 1/5th pot/ fold to shove. Try see a river to leave enough stack behind he can fold to a river shove.
Seems like there alot of decent rivers for us if he flats. Jam all spades 7.5 into 11 makes life shit for him as he shoves most Big Spades pre. And we have a decent amount of cards that make us. Think it would better to try play a river and make a better decision there Title: Re: interesting turn spot bvb Post by: AlexMartin on August 29, 2014, 10:54:01 AM betting turn with anything seems like a poor strategy. c/f here for sure, terrible range v range spot.
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