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Title: Something I noticed
Post by: zerofive on September 29, 2014, 06:34:40 PM
Okay, this might sound like a mild whinge. It really isn't. Just something I noticed.

Every now and then I throw on an old poker show just to see how things have changed and I guess just laugh at how simple poker used to be. On the last hand of High Stakes Poker Season 4 Episode 16, Patrick Antonious raises with the 82dd, flops a flush and pots 3 streets into Negreanu who makes an absolutely horrible calldown. Anyway, at the end of the hand, Doyle remarks "I remember when I was younger, I used to shoot the 82 of diamonds and flop a flush."

Now I was just thinking the same thing the other day. When I first started doing this shit for a job, I'd raise with a napkin and that card that comes with the hand rankings on it and flop a flush something like 1 in 3. It was ridiculous. Nowadays I just don't hit flushes, on flops nor turns nor rivers, even if I have clubs. What I have noticed though, is that any time I play with someone younger than myself - some aspiring young poker pro with nothing but a 6 buyin bankroll and a dream - they will give me the barrels with the T3ss and back into something suited and delicious. I think it every time, and say it occasionally, "I remember when that used to be me."

My question, if I have one, is why does it seem like this is the case? I thought about selective memory and that's not it, because any time after starting to think "that used to be me," and now, I would really focus in on the feeling of "holy shit it does still happen, even at my age." I thought about increased sample size, but that shouldn't make a difference; I should still make 1 in 3 after flopping a draw, and should very occasionally flop a flush. I know it can be done, I've seen some gentlemen even older than myself flop a flush. [citation needed]

Unrelated: I've been accepted for a new job and should be starting before the end of the year


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: rfgqqabc on September 29, 2014, 07:13:20 PM
You can run really bad over whatever sample you've played mate. Just happened to be one of the negative strands on the variance string.


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: hatthehole on September 29, 2014, 07:29:52 PM
You don't hear much about guys who take their shot and miss...


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: cambridgealex on September 29, 2014, 11:01:22 PM
2 points on Belton Bingo, that.


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: david3103 on September 29, 2014, 11:06:07 PM
You don't hear much about guys who take their shot and miss...

just like in the Scottish Referendum, there is a silent majority.


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: teamonkey on September 30, 2014, 04:34:26 PM
congrats on the job offer!


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: titaniumbean on September 30, 2014, 04:37:33 PM
You don't hear much about guys who take their shot and miss...

this, survivorship bias.


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: Oxford_HRV on September 30, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
there can always be a day you will god mode everything.

On sunday a player known as gordiju binked 3 majors on stars

(http://pokerprolabs.com/topsharkpro/graph/TotalProfitByGamesPlayed?id=2177351&pnid=1&tt=1&c=en-US&period=2014&w=640&h=480)

Sunday kickoff, followed by big55, and then topped off with the Sunday storm.



Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: cambridgealex on September 30, 2014, 04:49:38 PM
15th April 2013

£0.50/£1 Gala Casino, Nottingham.

4 folds, Stato raises HJ £4, Alex 3bets CO £15, Sean 4bets BTN £45, 2 folds, Stato folds, Alex 5bets CO £120, Sean 6bet allin £500, Alex calls.

Flop: (£1006) Th 6h 5d

Turn: (£1006) 2h

River: (£1006) 7h

Alex shows Qs Qd, One pair of Queens
Sean shows Js 4h, Flush, Ten high

Alex mucks, Sean wins pot £1006.


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: DMorgan on September 30, 2014, 06:29:17 PM
3bet bigger imo


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: DrDreh on September 30, 2014, 06:38:43 PM
15th April 2013

£0.50/£1 Gala Casino, Nottingham.

4 folds, Stato raises HJ £4, Alex 3bets CO £15, Sean 4bets BTN £45, 2 folds, Stato folds, Alex 5bets CO £120, Sean 6bet allin £500, Alex calls.

Flop: (£1006) Th 6h 5d

Turn: (£1006) 2h

River: (£1006) 7h

Alex shows Qs Qd, One pair of Queens
Sean shows Js 4h, Flush, Ten high

Alex mucks, Sean wins pot £1006.

Love this hand! Belton is the best.  Also, it's really hard to win with a Queen and a Queen


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: theprawnidentity on September 30, 2014, 06:44:04 PM
OMGBADBEAT


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: Sulphur man on September 30, 2014, 06:58:13 PM
15th April 2013

£0.50/£1 Gala Casino, Nottingham.

4 folds, Stato raises HJ £4, Alex 3bets CO £15, Sean 4bets BTN £45, 2 folds, Stato folds, Alex 5bets CO £120, Sean 6bet allin £500, Alex calls.

Flop: (£1006) Th 6h 5d

Turn: (£1006) 2h

River: (£1006) 7h

Alex shows Qs Qd, One pair of Queens
Sean shows Js 4h, Flush, Ten high

Alex mucks, Sean wins pot £1006.

Love this hand! Belton is the best.  Also, it's really hard to win with a Queen and a Queen
Think that's his point should still be getting it in with like 11% equity and
getting there. Variance hey.


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: DrDreh on September 30, 2014, 06:59:12 PM
15th April 2013

£0.50/£1 Gala Casino, Nottingham.

4 folds, Stato raises HJ £4, Alex 3bets CO £15, Sean 4bets BTN £45, 2 folds, Stato folds, Alex 5bets CO £120, Sean 6bet allin £500, Alex calls.

Flop: (£1006) Th 6h 5d

Turn: (£1006) 2h

River: (£1006) 7h

Alex shows Qs Qd, One pair of Queens
Sean shows Js 4h, Flush, Ten high

Alex mucks, Sean wins pot £1006.

Love this hand! Belton is the best.  Also, it's really hard to win with a Queen and a Queen
Think that's his point should still be getting it in with like 11% equity and
getting there. Variance hey.

If his point is Belton is the best I agree


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: celtic on September 30, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
Bad call by Alex really.


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: zerofive on September 30, 2014, 08:49:36 PM
15th April 2013

£0.50/£1 Gala Casino, Nottingham.

4 folds, Stato raises HJ £4, Alex 3bets CO £15, Sean 4bets BTN £45, 2 folds, Stato folds, Alex 5bets CO £120, Sean 6bet allin £500, Alex calls.

Flop: (£1006) Th 6h 5d

Turn: (£1006) 2h

River: (£1006) 7h

Alex shows Qs Qd, One pair of Queens
Sean shows Js 4h, Flush, Ten high

Alex mucks, Sean wins pot £1006.

Love this hand! Belton is the best.  Also, it's really hard to win with a Queen and a Queen
Think that's his point should still be getting it in with like 11% equity and getting there.

This. Now I have to make way for the youth and their 6 gappers. :(


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: Rexas on September 30, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
2 points on Belton Bingo, that.

Can I play? ;)


Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: muckthenuts on September 30, 2014, 11:30:27 PM
Focusing on positivity - congrats on the job. Unless you're very very very good on all fronts i just don't think poker is an enviable profession at all anymore. Hopefully this is a blessing in disguise. Albeit an immediately expensive one that will tilt you in the short term for sure, but putting you in a far better position in the long game.



Title: Re: Something I noticed
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 05, 2014, 11:52:43 PM
Focusing on positivity - congrats on the job. Unless you're very very very good on all fronts i just don't think poker is an enviable profession at all anymore. Hopefully this is a blessing in disguise. Albeit an immediately expensive one that will tilt you in the short term for sure, but putting you in a far better position in the long game.



Agree, good post.