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Title: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on February 23, 2015, 10:14:42 PM
2 weeks until Cheltenham Eve, so thought it might be time to get a thread started...

Not going myself, but I'm pretty sure there will be a fair few Blondes on the premises at varying points during the week, and hopefully everyone will be getting the lot!

First day could be an Irish benefit, with all Mullins' monsters travelling over, and I can't wait to see if Faugheen & UDS are the real deal!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tal on February 23, 2015, 10:27:51 PM
Has the Clerk started watering, yet?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on February 24, 2015, 09:38:28 AM
Hendo had a preview day yesterday, and with so many of his stars on the sidelines

Beat That
Finians
My Tent
Simonsig
Captain Conan

and stars like

Sprinter
Bobs Worth
Blue Fashion

all with big question marks next to them, you have to wonder what he is doing in their training regime that makes them all so fragile. Its not a recent phenomenon either.

Cant recall any other trainer with so many similar issues, it cant just be bad luck surely?!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: tikay on February 24, 2015, 09:42:20 AM
Hendo had a preview day yesterday, and with so many of his stars on the sidelines

Beat That
Finians
My Tent
Simonsig
Captain Conan

and stars like

Sprinter
Bobs Worth
Blue Fashion

all with big question marks next to them, you have to wonder what he is doing in their training regime that makes them all so fragile. Its not a recent phenomenon either.

Cant recall any other trainer with so many similar issues, it cant just be bad luck surely?!


Has he tried seeking advice from Arsene?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on February 24, 2015, 09:51:44 AM
Hendo had a preview day yesterday, and with so many of his stars on the sidelines

Beat That
Finians
My Tent
Simonsig
Captain Conan

and stars like

Sprinter
Bobs Worth
Blue Fashion

all with big question marks next to them, you have to wonder what he is doing in their training regime that makes them all so fragile. Its not a recent phenomenon either.

Cant recall any other trainer with so many similar issues, it cant just be bad luck surely?!


Has he tried seeking advice from Arsene?


Do you think he does a Wenger, when he tells the owner their horses are out for a year or so...."Honestly Your Maj, I didn't see him run into a barbed wire fence, but keep paying the bills"?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2015, 06:48:52 PM
Full festival preview has just started on RUK, with Steve Mellish, Mark Howard, Lydia Hislop, and some other bloke.




Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2015, 07:26:52 PM
Love it when people like Nevo say Josses Hill is a terrible bet.

If you watch his races, the quicker the pace the better he gets, and he is usually jumping best at the end.

I had a lump on UDS, for this, after he won the Irish Arkle, but the more I watch the flatter his jumping looks and it will be heart in mouth stuff. I can actually see Josses being a safer conveyance if he jumps the first couple ok.

I have seen plenty of his types come good at the festival, and its very much a 8, 7, 6, 5, 4 etc as you count the fences down for both of them. With all the offers around, again this has to be played with an outsider to get you money back(especially if your cat/granny/brother and dead Aunt have accounts intact! ;)). Anyone else fancy anything to beat the fav?



Sure I heard a fact that Faugheen covered the same patch of ground from where Our Connor hampered New One to the finish, quicker than The New One. As he had also covered an extra 5f and was a novice, that little stat, helped me sleep a little easier too.



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2015, 07:37:44 PM
I think he wins easily, and to an untrained eye, his jumping has gotten better over time.

If he does tip up, as long as it's not Vibrato Valtat, I'm not worried.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: jakally on March 02, 2015, 07:39:30 PM
You might be right about Josses Hill Adz, but he does seem to make one or two mistakes every race. Surely not getting away with that in this company?
Sgt Reckless is quoted for this race. His run in last year's Supreme was eye-catching, given he was stuffed out the back until two out. Seemed to jump well on his one chase outing. Any view?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2015, 07:43:42 PM
FWIW

I mentioned earlier on in the season I thought John Ferguson understood the NH season better this year and was plotting the course of his course more towards a proper Cheltenham campaign.

I think he has a nice crew assembled and i shall be having some random yankee/super yankees for small beer. Just in case!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2015, 07:47:14 PM
You might be right about Josses Hill Adz, but he does seem to make one or two mistakes every race. Surely not getting away with that in this company?
Sgt Reckless is quoted for this race. His run in last year's Supreme was eye-catching, given he was stuffed out the back until two out. Seemed to jump well on his one chase outing. Any view?


Hi Neil

Yes. I keep hearing his name mentioned, quietly, in corners!

I'm worried he has only had the one go over fences, but the quicker the ground rides the more he moves up the list of viable alternatives. Is Channon in form btw?



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: jakally on March 02, 2015, 07:51:26 PM
Is Channon in form btw?


I'm assuming you knew the answer to this (I didn't, obviously).
Just looking for a decent EW in the race. Un De Sceaux is clearly the most likely winner, but just much too short for me.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2015, 07:55:10 PM
Is Channon in form btw?


I'm assuming you knew the answer to this (I didn't, obviously).
Just looking for a decent EW in the race. Un De Sceaux is clearly the most likely winner, but just much too short for me.


Genuinely don't know mate.

AW takes a back seat these last few weeks before Chelts and not seen him have any NH runners, so I honestly don't know. Wasn't a dig at the selection, and I agree. I can't look at myself in the mirror(I know, I know) for having such a big bet on a shorty, and will be happier with a decent cover bet on board!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2015, 07:56:33 PM
Seen Smashing chucked up a few times, which is a nice big price.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2015, 08:03:05 PM
You can see why Nevo now has to assume the Tom Lee role on RUK these days.

Bet he does way less work on this than Howard, Mellish or Hyslop


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: JohnCharver on March 02, 2015, 08:18:46 PM
I like court minstrel, as long as its good ground. (dont know if the horse has had a problem, last time out was inexplicably run on ground it would hate and not seen since, but did the same last season to good effect)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2015, 08:19:32 PM
You can see why Nevo now has to assume the Tom Lee role on RUK these days.

Bet he does way less work on this than Howard, Mellish or Hyslop

Shame they couldn't have done it as a trio... Maybe they need him there to make the others look even better :D


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tonibell on March 02, 2015, 09:00:51 PM
I got his book from a charity shop the other week (10p, signed. Didn't see any unsigned ones for 20p) and really didn't know what to make of it. Did he go to the trouble of publishing a book just to put everyone away or is he really like that?

Some cracking ew races with these Muliins' shorties and I've had some Vibrato Valtat. Textbook example of that cliché 'progressive' and he at least follows UDS in, doesn't he? Adz, Nicholls is said to have 'tinkered' with him this year. Any idea what that means - wind op?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2015, 09:31:22 PM
I got his book from a charity shop the other week (10p, signed. Didn't see any unsigned ones for 20p) and really didn't know what to make of it. Did he go to the trouble of publishing a book just to put everyone away or is he really like that?

Some cracking ew races with these Muliins' shorties and I've had some Vibrato Valtat. Textbook example of that cliché 'progressive' and he at least follows UDS in, doesn't he? Adz, Nicholls is said to have 'tinkered' with him this year. Any idea what that means - wind op?


Not sure mate. It seems that wind ops are Nichols M/O. He does look the rock solid ew bet to nothing of the meeting doesn't he?

I have spat my dummy out with him as I thought he was my early cert for the Grand Annual back before Xmas, but he has sadly proved me overly right, by being too good for the GA!


As for Nevo. I read both his books and at the time thought, what a boy, good lad etc. Not so sure now. Just something about him I'm not sure about. He has looked v uncomfortable in this company tonight, I thought.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Karabiner on March 02, 2015, 09:37:55 PM
Full festival preview has just started on RUK, with Steve Mellish, Mark Howard, Lydia Hislop, and some other bloke.




I always suspected that she was a bloke ;)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2015, 09:48:41 PM
Full festival preview has just started on RUK, with Steve Mellish, Mark Howard, Lydia Hislop, and some other bloke.




I always suspected that she was a bloke ;)

Ha, I've never suspected that...


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Karabiner on March 02, 2015, 09:53:38 PM
Zarkandar looks an equally rock-solid EW punt for the WH.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2015, 09:55:32 PM
Full festival preview has just started on RUK, with Steve Mellish, Mark Howard, Lydia Hislop, and some other bloke.




I always suspected that she was a bloke ;)

Ha, I've never suspected that...


She is a bit plump(hark at me!) but quite pretty close up, I think. Not that I have ever been THAT close obv.

Would be a great night in the sack, as she talked racing stuff to get me going!! ;ashamed; ;D


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 03, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Don Cossack currently 4-1 online with the Tote when best available id 3-1.

Im a Ma Fuille man, but have taken up the option to cover at that price after Cue Card now out.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 03, 2015, 03:05:43 PM
Wonder if that'll turn Mullin's head...


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 03, 2015, 04:47:20 PM
C4 Racing

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz6cC7LYk_Q



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 03, 2015, 10:10:46 PM
sorry im late to the party boys, so out of the loop this year, been grind grind grind,
wondering if anyone can get on small with boyles? if so would be really handy.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: arbboy on March 03, 2015, 10:20:39 PM
sorry im late to the party boys, so out of the loop this year, been grind grind grind,
wondering if anyone can get on small with boyles? if so would be really handy.

Everyone can get on small with that firm! How small you talking??? Hope everything good trigg. You down there at all next week? Will be there tues and Thursday if you fancy a beer in the betfair tent.

Pm me your Boyles stuff I will get you on


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 03, 2015, 10:32:41 PM
Yeah, I can get on very small, and I mean 'very', so prob not much good :D


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Doobs on March 03, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
Yeah, I can get on very small, and I mean 'very', so prob not much good :D

I can get on smaller than Marky .  £0.00 my limit


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 03, 2015, 11:01:00 PM
will be there, tues and weds mark, catch ya there, sent pm cheers


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 04, 2015, 01:03:03 AM
pretty vulgar and id never ever cheer a horse falling but has anyone seen firms pricing up un de sceaux and faugheen falling?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 04, 2015, 01:47:14 AM
For UDS, isn't that the lay button on Betfair?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 04, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
I'm guessing would be bigger to back not to complete
Will take some 7/2 not to complete if anyone wants to lay
And 9/2 faugheen not completing


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: TightEnd on March 04, 2015, 12:41:44 PM
Mullisn was effusive about Vautour in his pre-cheltenham gallop, then on racinguk yesterday...comparing it favourably to faugheen etc

at 5/2 for the JLT is it a good thing?

will it go off shorter?

is it one of your cheltenham bankers?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Horneris on March 04, 2015, 02:25:56 PM
Mullisn was effusive about Vautour in his pre-cheltenham gallop, then on racinguk yesterday...comparing it favourably to faugheen etc

at 5/2 for the JLT is it a good thing?
No

will it go off shorter?
Possibly

is it one of your cheltenham bankers?
Definitely not, firmly in the Valseur Lido camp


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Karabiner on March 04, 2015, 02:27:02 PM
Mullisn was effusive about Vautour in his pre-cheltenham gallop, then on racinguk yesterday...comparing it favourably to faugheen etc

at 5/2 for the JLT is it a good thing?

will it go off shorter?

is it one of your cheltenham bankers?

Is this a chirp?

I wouldn't mind some of fred's 4/1 to win any race at the festival.

I think 5/2 is a little short and wouldn't be surprised to see it go off ~3/1, but that will surely be dependant on how many winners Mullins has racked up during the first couple of days.

Not exactly a banker for me but might well be a selection.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: TightEnd on March 04, 2015, 02:34:10 PM
not a chirp, just trying to do some newspaper competitions and wondering if it was a banker


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 04, 2015, 02:36:58 PM
not a chirp, just trying to do some newspaper competitions and wondering if it was a banker


Pretty sure Fred has him to win any race at 9/2.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: arbboy on March 04, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
8 left in the champ hurdle.  How likely all 8 run?  just thinking of getting the 1/4 1,2,3 now nrnb as every horse is ew value anyway.  If there are 1 or 2 nr's then 1/4 123 is a gift.  Anyone got any thoughts?

Ladbrokes gone 10/3 the new one today for example (so 5/6 a place when its 1/2 a place on bf) and that assumes all 8 run if it cuts up to 5 or 6 runners then it's a massive freeroll betting early.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: TightEnd on March 04, 2015, 02:51:23 PM
8 left in the champ hurdle.  How likely all 8 run?  just thinking of getting the 1/4 1,2,3 now nrnb as every horse is ew value anyway.  If there are 1 or 2 nr's then 1/4 123 is a gift.  Anyone got any thoughts?

Ladbrokes gone 10/3 the new one today for example (so 5/6 a place when its 1/2 a place on bf) and that assumes all 8 run if it cuts up to 5 or 6 runners then it's a massive freeroll betting early.

same question put another way

is there anything outside the top 4 that can get in the frame?

faugheen wins, 2 of fly/jezki/new one place.....which is the live outsider?

thanks


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: JohnCharver on March 04, 2015, 03:00:46 PM
glens melody 4/1 is a steal (cant imagine not taking bitofapuzzle and caroles spirit e/w aswell).

Have a load of artic fire at 25/33s and the fly at 20s, was seriously hoping one of the big three didnt contest but delighted the numbers overall are falling apart.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: JohnCharver on March 04, 2015, 03:04:10 PM
8 left in the champ hurdle.  How likely all 8 run?  just thinking of getting the 1/4 1,2,3 now nrnb as every horse is ew value anyway.  If there are 1 or 2 nr's then 1/4 123 is a gift.  Anyone got any thoughts?

Ladbrokes gone 10/3 the new one today for example (so 5/6 a place when its 1/2 a place on bf) and that assumes all 8 run if it cuts up to 5 or 6 runners then it's a massive freeroll betting early.

same question put another way

is there anything outside the top 4 that can get in the frame?

faugheen wins, 2 of fly/jezki/new one place.....which is the live outsider?

thanks

artic fire has close form with jezki and HF and solid enough at cheltenham.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 04, 2015, 03:04:29 PM
The obvious outside the 4 pick is Arctic Fire.

Not far behind the some of  principles several time this year, and touted by Mullins as the future, he is also deemed better on a faster surface, but any recommend feels a bit "miss the boat"y as he was 33s not long ago.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 04, 2015, 04:11:51 PM
had 2 bets yesterday, some plan 50/1 e/w for supreme and doing fine 20/1 for the 4miler, getting more excited now


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Actonbeech3 on March 05, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
My bet of the meeting is Current Event in the Foxhunters on Friday. Been laid out for this for a few months now, and had a little bit on at 16s when word first got to us. Still plenty of 8/1 about in what I would say isn't that a competitive renewal this year, and connections fully expect this to have an outstanding chance of winning this year. Looking forward to this festival more than previous years, got some nice ante post vouchers that hopefully will be reward for having the balls to get on back in December and January. Fully expect to come last in the tipster competition though.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: simonnatur on March 05, 2015, 01:23:34 PM
Looking forward to seeing Coneygree amongst others, what do folks think about taking a shot at Gold Cup v. RSA and specifically the 12-1 e/w NRNB for GC  ?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 05, 2015, 01:32:07 PM
Looking forward to seeing Coneygree amongst others, what do folks think about taking a shot at Gold Cup v. RSA and specifically the 12-1 e/w NRNB for GC  ?



A mate of mine owns a 12th share. Even at this late stage he doesn't know what will happen!!

I think regardless of age and frailty he should go RSA.

Its a wide open Gold Cup, but a strong one, i think. The RSA looks to be rather shallow by comparison. That said, in terms of times and horses he has beat, he deserves his seat at the top table.

Not sure i should mention the tiny 50-1 voucher on RSA which also sways me.... ;)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mickyp on March 05, 2015, 05:51:31 PM
My bet of the meeting is Current Event in the Foxhunters on Friday. Been laid out for this for a few months now, and had a little bit on at 16s when word first got to us. Still plenty of 8/1 about in what I would say isn't that a competitive renewal this year, and connections fully expect this to have an outstanding chance of winning this year. Looking forward to this festival more than previous years, got some nice ante post vouchers that hopefully will be reward for having the balls to get on back in December and January. Fully expect to come last in the tipster competition though.
Any idea of riding plans ? , was impressed with the horse at Musselburgh when a young lass was on board, think Megan Nichols was the jockey before that.The favourite looks pretty solid to me and salsify made a nice return to action recently.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 05, 2015, 06:13:45 PM
Thoughts

2015 Cheltenham Festival Top Trainer Match Bet
Selection   Price
Willie Mullins    4/5
Paul Nicholls & Nicky Henderson    EVS


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 05, 2015, 06:15:10 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281619593768?
ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2015, 06:23:07 PM
My bet of the meeting is Current Event in the Foxhunters on Friday. Been laid out for this for a few months now, and had a little bit on at 16s when word first got to us. Still plenty of 8/1 about in what I would say isn't that a competitive renewal this year, and connections fully expect this to have an outstanding chance of winning this year. Looking forward to this festival more than previous years, got some nice ante post vouchers that hopefully will be reward for having the balls to get on back in December and January. Fully expect to come last in the tipster competition though.
Any idea of riding plans ? , was impressed with the horse at Musselburgh when a young lass was on board, think Megan Nichols was the jockey before that.The favourite looks pretty solid to me and salsify made a nice return to action recently.

I'm on the 2 you mentioned, micky.



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2015, 06:23:45 PM
Looking forward to seeing Coneygree amongst others, what do folks think about taking a shot at Gold Cup v. RSA and specifically the 12-1 e/w NRNB for GC  ?



A mate of mine owns a 12th share. Even at this late stage he doesn't know what will happen!!

I think regardless of age and frailty he should go RSA.

Its a wide open Gold Cup, but a strong one, i think. The RSA looks to be rather shallow by comparison. That said, in terms of times and horses he has beat, he deserves his seat at the top table.

Not sure i should mention the tiny 50-1 voucher on RSA which also sways me.... ;)

Dinner in Brum is on you if he wins the RSA then ;)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Larry David on March 06, 2015, 12:42:16 AM
Thomas Crapper in the novice handicap chase on Tuesday.  Currently 10/1 joint fav,would be surprised if this didn't go off around 7/1, loves it round Cheltenham.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 06, 2015, 01:24:26 AM
Thoughts on this?
http://community.betfair.com/cheltenham2011/go/thread/view/113609/30414161/joci-clubs-2015-cheltenham-festival-trends-analysis#flvWelcomeHeader


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 06, 2015, 06:34:22 AM
First thing I do each year as prep is to order Paul Jones trends analysis.

In the end though too much analysis makes your head spin. I used to be religious in following the numbers like this guy, but there is no real answer. Just gotta do as much watching yourself, on top of the reading and listening.


This guy will no doubt pull a few rabbits, but as ever, which ones!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Actonbeech3 on March 06, 2015, 09:27:02 AM
My bet of the meeting is Current Event in the Foxhunters on Friday. Been laid out for this for a few months now, and had a little bit on at 16s when word first got to us. Still plenty of 8/1 about in what I would say isn't that a competitive renewal this year, and connections fully expect this to have an outstanding chance of winning this year. Looking forward to this festival more than previous years, got some nice ante post vouchers that hopefully will be reward for having the balls to get on back in December and January. Fully expect to come last in the tipster competition though.
Any idea of riding plans ? , was impressed with the horse at Musselburgh when a young lass was on board, think Megan Nichols was the jockey before that.The favourite looks pretty solid to me and salsify made a nice return to action recently.

Got No idea at the minute. A miss Frost rode her at Musselburgh, and she won well under a big weight. That was the prep race for the foxhunters, and she had won her previous 5 points/rules races previously. Harry Derham had previously had the rides before, so be interesting to see who takes the reins. Owners are apparently very bullish about its chances however. Still think 8/1 could be a steal on the day.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: KitKeeper on March 06, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
had 2 bets yesterday, some plan 50/1 e/w for supreme and doing fine 20/1 for the 4miler, getting more excited now

Heartening to see someone else backing this.

Have thought for a while that 50/1 is a little generous.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 06, 2015, 02:00:17 PM
gonna be one hell of a frantic pace in the QM with special tiara and champagne fever, cant help thinking somersby might grab 3rd


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 06, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
has anyone seen any decent preiviews on you tube, or written reports from any? seem to be thin on the ground this year


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: jakally on March 06, 2015, 04:11:26 PM
has anyone seen any decent preiviews on you tube, or written reports from any? seem to be thin on the ground this year
There's a BoyleSports one with Davy Russell, Gordon Elliot and Ted Walsh on YouTube, which is ok. It's in separate pieces so is a bit fiddly to get through.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2015, 04:32:50 PM
Betfair aren't having one this year, which is a shame.

Couch always makes me chuckle...


I followed a few on twitter, and will have a look for the links when I'm back on my PC.



https://soundcloud.com/emmet-kennedy/patrick-mullins-cheltenham-special

Good podcast with Mullins Jnr as a guest.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: tikay on March 06, 2015, 06:26:20 PM
has anyone seen any decent preiviews on you tube, or written reports from any? seem to be thin on the ground this year

Hi Mr T,

There are a bunch of previews here, not sure if they meet your criteria for "decent".

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=65073.0


Sean Boyce, Neil Channing, Michael Shinners & Dave Ord shooting the breeze about various races at Cheltenham. They relate all sorts of stuff, some of which may be interesting to you.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2015, 09:36:31 PM
Final Furlong Guys are on ATR at 21:15 tonight.

Not sure what for exactly, but guessing it's some form of Chelts chatter.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 06, 2015, 11:12:03 PM
has anyone seen any decent preiviews on you tube, or written reports from any? seem to be thin on the ground this year


PM sent to some passwords protected stuff mate


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Horneris on March 06, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Everyone writing off The New One.

They will be made to pay.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2015, 11:29:19 PM
Everyone writing off The New One.

They will be made to pay.

When he wins the World Hurdle :)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Karabiner on March 07, 2015, 12:03:45 AM
Everyone writing off The New One.

They will be made to pay.

It's not a very big price for a horse that's been written-off.

I'd deffo have to play @ 4/1.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Horneris on March 07, 2015, 01:35:50 AM
It's not a very big price for a horse that's been written-off.

I know what you are saying but I get the preview evening shite sent through to me every morning and literally every expert, jockey, trainer has claimed he will be tapped for toe. We'll see.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: TightEnd on March 07, 2015, 09:44:41 AM
if you were offered Evens each of two Mullins versus Nicholls/Henderson in a festival winner match, you'd take Mullins?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 07, 2015, 12:18:36 PM
i would take mullins 100%


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: arbboy on March 07, 2015, 12:23:11 PM
if you were offered Evens each of two Mullins versus Nicholls/Henderson in a festival winner match, you'd take Mullins?

Looks very close to a flip based on the special markets for these trainers.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tal on March 07, 2015, 12:23:51 PM
if you were offered Evens each of two Mullins versus Nicholls/Henderson in a festival winner match, you'd take Mullins?

Nicholls/Henderson for me. Think it's a cracking bet, personally. A way of laying off some of the Mullins festival acca exposure?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 07, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
Mulllllins


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tal on March 07, 2015, 12:35:12 PM
(https://bendingthebubble.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/maths.jpg?w=529)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 07, 2015, 01:05:21 PM
I dont have the facts to hand but Nichols campaigns his Chasers honestly during the season, and recognises that a fistful of Saturday wins, whilst not as prestigious as a Cheltenham winner, pays the bills and keeps him in the spotlight all year. If wouldn't be surprised to see him draw a blank in the Chase handicaps. Heart of hearts, im not sure his top chasers are champions
I quite fancy a couple of his novice hurdlers in the Pipe/FW etc and they have been campaigned more sparingly, so I could see him have a couple.

Hendo has almost been eggs in one Cheltenham basket this year, and he must be a very happy man seeing the sun shining at the moment. However, we don't really know if this supposed "better ground" horses will actually improve for the ground.


Mullins
Douvan/UDS/Faugheen/Annie Power/Canyon/Outlander/Hercules/Poli/Fever/Bordoni/Pylon/Vautour/Ballycasey/Briar Hill/Djakadam/Boston Bob/Kalkir/PP

and I didnt even bother to think about the handicaps.

Even trying to be objective, its a bit of a no brainer.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 07, 2015, 01:14:59 PM
Walsh confirmed to ride Faugheen.
Huge surprise...


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: arbboy on March 07, 2015, 01:16:19 PM
Walsh confirmed to ride Faugheen.
Huge surprise...

Why?  Why wouldn't he ride the horse most likely to win when he has the choice?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 07, 2015, 01:23:07 PM
I meant it's not a huge surprise. I had read an article saying he was waiting till the last moment to decide which I thought was pointless.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 07, 2015, 01:27:43 PM
I meant it's not a huge surprise. I had read an article saying he was waiting till the last moment to decide which I thought was pointless.

Not really...

If it had absolutely pissed down with rain all week, he would have likely gone the other way.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Horneris on March 07, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Good point Adz but I fancy Keltus in the Novices race on the Tues. 4th at fest last year, non trier at Newbury lto, lightly campaigned, nice mark. Has had a few of my pennies @ 16s.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: The Camel on March 07, 2015, 03:24:11 PM
Baldie offered 20/1 the "big four" of Mullins win on Tuesday.

Very fair I thought.

At current Betfair prices it is a 16/1 acca, but if the first two win, Faugheen must start odds on and if that wins, Annie Power will be off the boards as the big bookmakers run for cover.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 07, 2015, 04:16:36 PM
Alice Plunkett, or Jeremy Kyle?

It's like being asked if you want to be shot, or stabbed...


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 07, 2015, 04:35:35 PM
needs to be the cat for cheltenham


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 07, 2015, 04:54:01 PM
Alice Plunkett, or Jeremy Kyle?

It's like being asked if you want to be shot, or stabbed...


LOL. Not wrong.

Why C$ have have to play it down to the lowest denomination I don't know. It's like racing has to be all twee and nice and happy.

Give us some bloody experts FFS.

One of the few times I am glad I'm actually at the races.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 07, 2015, 05:03:13 PM
Alice Plunkett, or Jeremy Kyle?

It's like being asked if you want to be shot, or stabbed...


LOL. Not wrong.

Why C$ have have to play it down to the lowest denomination I don't know. It's like racing has to be all twee and nice and happy.

Give us some bloody experts FFS.

One of the few times I am glad I'm actually at the races.


Double painful if you're knocking it in as well!

Spare a thought for us, while you're hobnobbing down there ;)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mickyp on March 07, 2015, 05:27:45 PM
Anybody any thoughts on a live outsider in the world hurdle?  With ror now out . Not keen on the first two in the market, inching towards each way bets on see you at midnight and jetson


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 07, 2015, 05:35:26 PM
Anybody any thoughts on a live outsider in the world hurdle?  With ror now out . Not keen on the first two in the market, inching towards each way bets on see you at midnight and jetson


Don't remind me... Was on RoR at 50s :/

On SDR and the Pipe Horse at big prices.

Did have a few quid on See You At Midnight after what I thought was a good first run, in the Cleeve.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mickyp on March 07, 2015, 06:18:23 PM
Anybody any thoughts on a live outsider in the world hurdle?  With ror now out . Not keen on the first two in the market, inching towards each way bets on see you at midnight and jetson


Don't remind me... Was on RoR at 50s :/

On SDR and the Pipe Horse at big prices.

Did have a few quid on See You At Midnight after what I thought was a good first run, in the Cleeve.
see you at midnight is trained locally to me ( played cricket against his trainer back in the day) so it's one of those sentimental bets that I shouldn't really do 😀


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 07, 2015, 06:39:06 PM
Anybody any thoughts on a live outsider in the world hurdle?  With ror now out . Not keen on the first two in the market, inching towards each way bets on see you at midnight and jetson


Don't remind me... Was on RoR at 50s :/

On SDR and the Pipe Horse at big prices.

Did have a few quid on See You At Midnight after what I thought was a good first run, in the Cleeve.
see you at midnight is trained locally to me ( played cricket against his trainer back in the day) so it's one of those sentimental bets that I shouldn't really do 😀

I think we all have one or 2 horses like that :)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: KitKeeper on March 08, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Anybody any thoughts on a live outsider in the world hurdle?  With ror now out . Not keen on the first two in the market, inching towards each way bets on see you at midnight and jetson

Finding this one of the toughest to call... Definitely some value to be had.

Been on Seeyouatmidnight for a while (I'm convinced he's overpriced in what is a fairly weak race for the level).

Also got little bits on Monksland and Briar Hill using other people's brains.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BorntoBubble on March 08, 2015, 09:55:41 PM
Remember to enter the tipster competetion! 33 in so far, aiming for 50 which will give over £1,000 in the pot. With punters like Tikay and myself involved there is guarenteed value!!

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=65056.0


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 09, 2015, 12:15:38 PM
I love the Festival as one of the highlights of the year.
 
However, year on year, I dislike the Irish trainers more and more that seem hell bent on tucking punters up by suggesting certain horses are going one way, when they are clearly not.


Willie Mullins clearly can't lie straight in bed, he is so bad each year at "tuckupatry". But a new low was reached when yesterday Very Wood was told to the press to be running in the RSA, only for today to be declared in the National Hunt Chase.

Disgrace scenes.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 09, 2015, 12:32:28 PM
When are all the races finalised/declared?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 09, 2015, 12:45:34 PM
When are all the races finalised/declared?

The main races, 48 hours before but the rest by 11.30 each day 24 before.

So Tuesday decs out now along with the Queen Mum on Weds


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 09, 2015, 12:47:06 PM
Ty


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: action man on March 09, 2015, 12:54:35 PM
ill be in cheltenham this evening watching the footy and having a fair old slurp, if anyone wants to join us, lmk


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Double slowrolled with Wounded Warrior...



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mickyp on March 09, 2015, 01:17:19 PM
Three kingdoms ew value in the arkle ?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Larry David on March 09, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
Thomas Crapper in the novice handicap chase on Tuesday.  Currently 10/1 joint fav,would be surprised if this didn't go off around 7/1, loves it round Cheltenham.

Any of you get on?  At this rate it will go off shorter


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: claypole on March 09, 2015, 06:29:48 PM
Anybody any thoughts on a live outsider in the world hurdle?  With ror now out . Not keen on the first two in the market, inching towards each way bets on see you at midnight and jetson

Finding this one of the toughest to call... Definitely some value to be had.

Been on Seeyouatmidnight for a while (I'm convinced he's overpriced in what is a fairly weak race for the level).

Also got little bits on Monksland and Briar Hill using other people's brains.

Whisper @ 12/1


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 09, 2015, 06:59:56 PM
Might as well put me nads on the block before I pop off for the week. In order of preference each race.

1.30  Jolyalan/Seeding/Some Plan ews

2.05  Smashing/Josses Hill/Gods Own ews

2.40 Barrakilla/Theatre Guide/No Planning ew

3.20 Faugheen

4.00 L'unique/Polly Peacham/Glens Melody ews

4.40 The Job is Right/Doing Fine ew/ Cause of Causes win

5.15  Thomas Crapper/Killala Quay/ Stellar Notion. ew

GL chaps.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: treefella on March 10, 2015, 12:13:28 PM
Shaneshill race 1 . Grossly underestimated ability imo. Just watch last years bumper on similar ground. Race run in great time and most importantly he runs up that hill !

Bred by Kings Theatre running back on the quicker surface over a no doubt fastly run 2 miles, should see improved jumping & Trainer did a similar campaign with champagne fever  this ones a great bet at 12s  to make top 3 finish. Win only for me gotta be confident !  good luck :)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 10, 2015, 01:10:03 PM
Done most of my punting antepost, so will seem like a cheap day today, even when I brick :D



13:30

5pts L'Ami Serge @ 10/1
2pts Qewy @ 33/1
1pt Bentelimar @ 50/1


Backed Jollyallan on Hills moneyback up to £25 offer if you lose



14:05

1pt Smashing @ 33/1 (EW)

Backed Clarcam e/w @ 18/1 today



14:40

2pts Pendra @ 14/1
2pts Gallant Oscar @ 14/1



15:20

1pt Hurricane Fly @ 33/1 (EW)


Done Jezki E/W @ 6/1 today



16:40

2pts Doing fine @ 20/1
2pts Perfect Gentleman @ 20/1



17:15

2pts Keltus @ 12/1
2pts Killala Quay @ 16/1


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mondatoo on March 10, 2015, 04:10:45 PM
Hope everyone's getn the lot, thought UDS was the most impressive so far although obv was expected.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Graham C on March 10, 2015, 04:40:48 PM
I don't believe that last jump!  Seriously, how does he not get that jump right?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mondatoo on March 10, 2015, 04:46:46 PM
Unbelievable sport.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: CUTEMOFO on March 10, 2015, 05:02:48 PM
considering driving my car into the canal!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 10, 2015, 05:05:10 PM
I don't believe that last jump!  Seriously, how does he not get that jump right?

Because it cost me about a grand, and Cute about 7...

:D



Love the game!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tonibell on March 10, 2015, 05:40:15 PM
Sobering to think if the books hadn't thrown money at me with Douvan and Faugheen I'd be looking at an even bigger stinker.

But congratulations to Rich Ricci who having won his first championship race at Chelttenham must be only -90% ROI on his investment. (There. That's made me feel better).


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: tikay on March 10, 2015, 05:42:46 PM


I swerved all the Mullins shorties except one.

Guess which one I backed?

I am a pile of poo.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: TightEnd on March 10, 2015, 05:47:15 PM
Sobering to think if the books hadn't thrown money at me with Douvan and Faugheen I'd be looking at an even bigger stinker.

But congratulations to Rich Ricci who having won his first championship race at Chelttenham must be only -90% ROI on his investment. (There. That's made me feel better).

I have a huge problem with Rich Ricci and it eats away at me

He, along with a number of other senior bankers around the world, in their strategies at investment banks was in part responsible for the credit crunch that caused millions of people financial problems, lost jobs etc

Under his various contracts  by the time he was relieved of his duties in mid 2013 he had cleared over £200m in salary and bonuses and share options

theses were due to him under those contracts with no redress for poor strategy etc, and thats fair enough

so he has spare time on his hands and invests gazillions in racing, changes the competitive dynamic of the sport but he's still the investment banker that was part of the problem Western economies faced 2009-13

doesn't sit too well with me at times


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tonibell on March 10, 2015, 05:48:05 PM


I swerved all the Mullins shorties except one.

Guess which one I backed?
 
I bet them all because Ladbrokes went crazy apeshit but it doesn't feel like gambling. More like being given the first one free because they'll be back for more. :/


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tonibell on March 10, 2015, 05:55:08 PM
Sobering to think if the books hadn't thrown money at me with Douvan and Faugheen I'd be looking at an even bigger stinker.

But congratulations to Rich Ricci who having won his first championship race at Chelttenham must be only -90% ROI on his investment. (There. That's made me feel better).

I have a huge problem with Rich Ricci and it eats away at me

He, along with a number of other senior bankers around the world, in their strategies at investment banks was in part responsible for the credit crunch.

Barclays couldn't have taken the risks they did, that resulted in them paying the bonuses they did, without the knowledge that they were too big to fail. I feel part of his victories because ultimately they were bought with UK taxpayers' bailout money.
http://qz.com/75884/ten-things-to-know-about-rich-riccis-rise-to-riches/ (http://qz.com/75884/ten-things-to-know-about-rich-riccis-rise-to-riches/)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: tikay on March 10, 2015, 05:56:33 PM
Might as well put me nads on the block before I pop off for the week. In order of preference each race.

1.30  Jolyalan/Seeding/Some Plan ews

2.05  Smashing/Josses Hill/Gods Own ews

2.40 Barrakilla/Theatre Guide/No Planning ew

3.20 Faugheen

4.00 L'unique/Polly Peacham/Glens Melody ews

4.40 The Job is Right/Doing Fine ew/ Cause of Causes win

5.15  Thomas Crapper/Killala Quay/ Stellar Notion. ew

GL chaps.

A few nice binks there Adzy, wp.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: TightEnd on March 10, 2015, 05:58:34 PM
Sobering to think if the books hadn't thrown money at me with Douvan and Faugheen I'd be looking at an even bigger stinker.

But congratulations to Rich Ricci who having won his first championship race at Chelttenham must be only -90% ROI on his investment. (There. That's made me feel better).

I have a huge problem with Rich Ricci and it eats away at me

He, along with a number of other senior bankers around the world, in their strategies at investment banks was in part responsible for the credit crunch.

Barclays couldn't have taken the risks they did, that resulted in them paying the bonuses they did, without the knowledge that they were too big to fail. I feel part of his victories because ultimately they were bought with UK taxpayers' bailout money.
http://qz.com/75884/ten-things-to-know-about-rich-riccis-rise-to-riches/ (http://qz.com/75884/ten-things-to-know-about-rich-riccis-rise-to-riches/)

the lender of last resort argument is of course right, but along the way the move to part-puiblic ownership has seen 60,000 job losses in Barclays alone


anyway, we digress.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tonibell on March 10, 2015, 06:09:14 PM
A less generous man than me, one who was tilting because they'd got their money in ahead and still done it, would hope he gets monstered by the Mail tomorrow: 'The Fat Cat Who Buys Champions With Your Money (but won't have them trained in Britain).' :D

WP with Gods Own, adz.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mickyp on March 10, 2015, 06:26:43 PM
Annie I'm not your daddy ffs


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: maldini32 on March 11, 2015, 10:46:59 AM
I've got an offer from betfair. Bet £50 on any horse race today get money back as a free bet if it loses.

Who would you reccomend? Don poli?

I'll be backing many clouds with free bet if it loses


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Actonbeech3 on March 11, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
I've got an offer from betfair. Bet £50 on any horse race today get money back as a free bet if it loses.

Who would you reccomend? Don poli?

I'll be backing many clouds with free bet if it loses

Really Fancy Nichols Canyon in the opener at 4/1. Ruby has been so impressed with this horse and they reckon that could be today's banker! Good luck with whatever you back!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 11, 2015, 03:02:42 PM
That was some performance...



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mondatoo on March 11, 2015, 03:32:49 PM
Really looking forward to this next one, COME ON SPRINTER SACRE


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 11, 2015, 03:35:28 PM
Really looking forward to this next one, COME ON Simply Ned

Good man :)up




Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2015, 03:38:17 PM
Really looking forward to this next one, COME ON Simply Ned

Good man :)up




who? lol


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: treefella on March 12, 2015, 10:23:16 AM
Nice run from Shaneshill on opening day.
Today i like RAWNAQ in the 4pm.
Ran well here before as a hurdler on its only run at cheltenham in a decent race that has thrown up loads of good winners since.
 This one loves the faster surface and is nicely flat bred so hopefully has the speed to burn em all off up the hill.Young horses with a lower weight do well in this race. Big price for a small yard and is only a novice but novices have won this race before.  Theres plenty in this race need soft ground and further.

 25/1 EW 5 plcs the way to go good luck !


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 12, 2015, 10:25:35 AM
Nice run from Shaneshill on opening day.
Today i like RAWNAQ in the 4pm.
Ran well here before as a hurdler on its only run at cheltenham in a decent race that has thrown up loads of good winners since.
 This one loves the faster surface and is nicely flat bred so hopefully has the speed to burn em all off up the hill.Young horses with a lower weight do well in this race. Big price for a small yard and is only a novice but novices have won this race before.  Theres plenty in this race need soft ground and further.

 25/1 EW 5 plcs the way to go good luck !

Both my antepost bets came out of this, so I had a few quid on this one last night. Hopefully we're collecting :)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: tikay on March 12, 2015, 11:01:09 AM
Nice run from Shaneshill on opening day.
Today i like RAWNAQ in the 4pm.
Ran well here before as a hurdler on its only run at cheltenham in a decent race that has thrown up loads of good winners since.
 This one loves the faster surface and is nicely flat bred so hopefully has the speed to burn em all off up the hill.Young horses with a lower weight do well in this race. Big price for a small yard and is only a novice but novices have won this race before.  Theres plenty in this race need soft ground and further.

 25/1 EW 5 plcs the way to go good luck !

Both my antepost bets came out of this, so I had a few quid on this one last night. Hopefully we're collecting :)

Hopefully?

When I was working for John Kirkland, & a contract went badly wrong, & I'd lost a shed-load of money on a Contract, I had to go see him, & explain why.

I'd waffle for 10 minutes, bla bla, excuse excuse, then end with "....so hopefully we'll get it back."

He'd explode.

Hope? HOPE? Don't give me that hope shit, hope is for churches. I want my money back, not ******* hope.


Err, yes John, you are right John.

I bloody know I am, now bugger off & sort it you big daft sod. And stop sulking like a big girl.

Love that man, few men I admired more. Didn't half give me some bollockings though. 


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: treefella on March 12, 2015, 11:09:25 AM
I call the cheltenham hill "Hope"

"hopefully he gets up there"

say it every race lol  :)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 12, 2015, 11:16:39 AM
Sounds like a good fell, that John :)

A bollocking never hurt anyone, not that I've ever been subject to many, obv...

I call the cheltenham hill "Hope"

"hopefully he gets up there"

say it every race lol  :)

Isn't it just!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mondatoo on March 12, 2015, 02:15:14 PM
I wasn't on it but that was a bit special.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 12, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
I wasn't on it but that was a bit special.

Very!



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: mondatoo on March 12, 2015, 03:24:09 PM
Backed 2nd to win there but was shouting for McCoy lolz, can't not have one winner this week, great ride and much deserved.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: tikay on March 12, 2015, 03:29:26 PM
Amazing scenes, I must be going soft, I'm welling up here.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 12, 2015, 03:33:24 PM
Amazing scenes, I must be going soft, I'm welling up here.

Me too... I was on Ma Filleule at 25/1 :D


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tal on March 12, 2015, 03:38:33 PM
Ma Feuille and Don Cossack here.

Still cheered the miserable gooner home.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: The Camel on March 12, 2015, 03:53:20 PM
You've all gone soft.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 12, 2015, 03:54:35 PM
Ma Feuille and Don Cossack here.

Still cheered the miserable gooner home.


I love McCoy, but like Marky I cried, but for the wrong reasons. :'(


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tal on March 12, 2015, 03:55:07 PM
You've all gone soft.

Don't worry. I'll be back to shouting at the screen when they all move over to let him win the Grand Annual.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tonibell on March 12, 2015, 04:15:46 PM
Yeah, with an 8-1 Ned Buntline voucher I was hoping he'd be winless going into that. I just had the 12s Ma Filleule: half the tears ;)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: The Camel on March 12, 2015, 04:18:01 PM
Seems like a huge front running bias as the ground dries up.

Champion Court, Hunt Ball, Attaglance, Monetaire and Buywise. Combination fcs and tcs in th next.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tal on March 12, 2015, 04:25:17 PM
Seems like a huge front running bias as the ground dries up.

Champion Court, Hunt Ball, Attaglance, Monetaire and Buywise. Combination fcs and tcs in th next.

Attaglance, CDB and Burn and Turn.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Karabiner on March 12, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
Was on Zarkandar @12/1 FML  :'(


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tonibell on March 12, 2015, 06:07:28 PM
Seems like a huge front running bias as the ground dries up.

Really odd, dead, ground like came out from under the covers at Newbury when Josh Moore nicked the Schweppes off the front.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: simonnatur on March 12, 2015, 06:18:54 PM
First two days of Chelts went badly, decided I needed to up my game and get in a proper routine.
Lucky Pants on, Full English and pint of Guinness in lucky pub - and voila punting much improved.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: exstream on March 12, 2015, 07:17:56 PM
Don't want to fuck it up and risk leaving it too late for next year, I want to rent a really good place for Cheltenham next year, any ideas?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Karabiner on March 12, 2015, 07:37:33 PM
I really liked the look of Top Notch last time, travelled and jumped superbly.

It was only when I heard that they were thinking of Aintree rather than The Triumph as they have such a strong array of juveniles that I held off from helping myself to the 16/1 which was available.

Still might have to bite the bullet and go in @ 10/1EW


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: The Camel on March 13, 2015, 01:12:44 AM

The Milky Bars are on me

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGcIUitNlGQ


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2015, 09:27:30 AM
Good day yesterday, Keith?

:D


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Kmac84 on March 13, 2015, 10:36:50 AM
Good day yesterday, Keith?

:D

He's just edited out how much of a hole he's got into with the Mullins horse in the Gold Cup. 

What price were you on at Camel?


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2015, 10:54:02 AM
Triumph - Hargam, Beltor & Dicosimo  @ 16/1

County Hurdle - Game Changer & Rich Coast @ 20/1

Albert Bartlett - No More Heroes @ 14/1 & Martello Tower @ 16/1

Gold Cup

Silvianaco @ 20/1
Many Clouds @ 60/1
Road To Riches @ 33/1
Coneygree @ 33/1


Lord Windermere will probably hack up now...


Foxhunter - Salsify @ 14/1 & Paint the Clouds @ 8/1

Grand Annual - Ned Buntline @ 8/1 & Blood Cotil @ 9/1


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: tikay on March 13, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
Triumph - Hargam, Beltor & Dicosimo  @ 16/1

County Hurdle - Game Changer & Rich Coast @ 20/1

Albert Bartlett - No More Heroes @ 14/1 & Martello Tower @ 16/1

Gold Cup

Silvianaco @ 20/1
Many Clouds @ 60/1
Road To Riches @ 33/1
Coneygree @ 33/1


Lord Windermere will probably hack up now...


Foxhunter - Salsify @ 14/1 & Paint the Clouds @ 8/1

Grand Annual - Ned Buntline @ 8/1 & Blood Cotil @ 9/1


You've got some juicy prices there, Marky, good luck.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2015, 11:07:41 AM
Thanks, I've been quite lucky that most of my AP stuff got there.

It feels like a win if you get a run :D


Just had a look and got some deadwood from today, too...

Windsor Park  @ 25/1    BFSB   AB
Golden Doyen @ 25/1   BFr    Triumph
Vercingetorix  @ 20/1   Win   Triumph
Al Ferof         @ 33/1   RB     GC
Alderwood     @ 20/1    SJ   Grand Annual




Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Omm on March 13, 2015, 11:58:39 AM
Good luck today everyone, although I have a few ante post tickets in the gold cup by far the most important is Many "Adz" Clouds, special thanks to the man for all the ante post stuff. If today goes according to plan then Vegas for next year is paid for (this year was paid for by Douvan, Faugheen and Vatour, actually sounds quite good - Vegas sponsored by Mullins and Ruby)

Good luck everyone.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Omm on March 13, 2015, 01:38:38 PM
Wow watching the piece on Davy Russell is quite emotional.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
Wow watching the piece on Davy Russell is quite emotional.

Cutthroat mob those O'Leary's but I suppose you can't blame them, given the amount of dough they pump into the game.

Handled it well, and worked out alright for him.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Omm on March 13, 2015, 03:39:40 PM
Betvic insta bet have got Conti at 4/1 max £10 if anyone wants it. Next 3 mins. 4.5 on bf


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Omm on March 13, 2015, 03:45:31 PM
they have been doing it all week but if you having a bet on the gold cup 888 are best price on every horse.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Omm on March 13, 2015, 03:45:56 PM
they have been doing it all week but if you having a bet on the gold cup 888 are best price on every horse.

joint best anyway.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Tonibell on March 13, 2015, 03:46:03 PM
Wow watching the piece on Davy Russell is quite emotional.

Watching who Gigginstown gave him the boot for - even more so. I can't be having Cooper away from steering jobs in Ireland.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Omm on March 13, 2015, 03:47:30 PM
they have been doing it all week but if you having a bet on the gold cup 888 are best price on every horse.

joint best anyway.

they are 40/1 Houblon Des Obeaux and its 34 on bf.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Karabiner on March 13, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Djackadam's a big drifter on betty currently 14.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: treefella on March 16, 2015, 12:17:43 PM
 I think its worth mentioning just how good this years festival was. Some of the winners were just awesome.
Vautour comes to mind , some of the best jumping ive seen from a novice. Hes a beast. Looking forward to seeing him in the grade 1 staying chases next season.
Hard not to be impressed by Coneygree in the gold cup. Rarely will you see one make all in the gold cup, never mind one that is still a novice and has only jumped fences in public 3 times before.
Dour stayer Don Poli surely ideally suited by next years gold cup.

 I really hope these 3 meet in the next year.

Few county hurdle winners will ever win by as much as 8 Lengths. Wicklow Brave a quirky sort with obvious huge potential.

Plenty of exciting novice hurdlers to look forward to next season Douvan Peace & Co Killultagh Vic Shaneshill i will be following with interest.

Sad to see Mccoy clearly tilted throughout the week being constantly reminded it was his last festival riding.



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 16, 2015, 12:33:56 PM
I think its worth mentioning just how good this years festival was. Some of the winners were just awesome.
Vautour comes to mind , some of the best jumping ive seen from a novice. Hes a beast. Looking forward to seeing him in the grade 1 staying chases next season.
Hard not to be impressed by Coneygree in the gold cup. Rarely will you see one make all in the gold cup, never mind one that is still a novice and has only jumped fences in public 3 times before.
Dour stayer Don Poli surely ideally suited by next years gold cup.

 I really hope these 3 meet in the next year.

Few county hurdle winners will ever win by as much as 8 Lengths. Wicklow Brave a quirky sort with obvious huge potential.

Plenty of exciting novice hurdlers to look forward to next season Douvan Peace & Co Killultagh Vic Shaneshill i will be following with interest.

Sad to see Mccoy clearly tilted throughout the week being constantly reminded it was his last festival riding.




Would echo all of this.

I certainly think McCoy is showing the pressure of expectation too, and he just seems a couple of notches below his usual standard.

I thought the Wicklow Brave run was pretty disgraceful tbh. Tailed off at Sandown at the weekend with Ruby not trying an inch and then as impressive as any winner, and not a word said. Pretty sure if this had been some small outfit, cries of cheat would still be echoing around the Cotswolds.

To you Tree, and anyone else that wants to reply, but given the following list of horses, where would you run them, next year at the festival, that is best for the horses chances, and OWNERS, not to suit Mullins?!


Douvan
Annie Power
Vautour
Champagne Fever
Faugheen
Dom Poli
Un De Sceux
Arctic Fire
Djakadam


and then maybe put where you think where they will run, because it suits Mullins!!


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 16, 2015, 01:04:09 PM
First thing I'd do is give Annie a pair of Richie Rich's sunglasses...



Douvan - Arkle

Annie Power - World

Vautour - Gold Cup

Champagne Fever - Champion Chase

Faugheen - Champion Hurdle

Dom Poli - Gold Cup

Un De Sceux - Champion Chase
 
Arctic Fire - Champion Hurdle

Djakadam - Gold Cup


Not sure the Champion Chase is best for Champagne Fever, but the other alternative is to leave him in his box...

Thought Arctic Fire did well to get so close, considering it looked like Ruby rode the race to suit him.

Be good to see Djakadam & Don Poli bang heads.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: NigDawG on March 16, 2015, 02:07:33 PM
First thing I'd do is give Annie a pair of Richie Rich's sunglasses...

lol

one of champagne fever/vautour will go for the ryanair, apart from that the rest sort themselves? (assuming all get there injury free)


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Doobs on March 16, 2015, 02:27:18 PM
First thing I'd do is give Annie a pair of Richie Rich's sunglasses...

lol

one of champagne fever/vautour will go for the ryanair, apart from that the rest sort themselves? (assuming all get there injury free)

I think Marky is doing Mullins' job for him. Annie Power should have run in the Champion last year (was the best horse on ratings) and this year ( clearly a lot better than the other mares until the fall.  It would be a real shame if she never gets her chance to show that she could have been Champion.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: BigAdz on March 16, 2015, 02:33:01 PM
I suspect Marky is pretty much on the money.

I would love to see Vautour take on UDS in the Queen Mum. The speed and technique he showed in the JLT was superb, and he deserves to be recognised as a true great rather than "accomodated" to avoid UDS. What a race that would be.


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 16, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Tom Segal hacked Doob's account :)

First thing I'd do is give Annie a pair of Richie Rich's sunglasses...

lol

one of champagne fever/vautour will go for the ryanair, apart from that the rest sort themselves? (assuming all get there injury free)

I'd guess it will be Champagne Fever, unless Vautour doesn't stay in the KG


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: The Camel on March 16, 2015, 03:40:24 PM
Tom Segal hacked Doob's account :)

First thing I'd do is give Annie a pair of Richie Rich's sunglasses...

lol

one of champagne fever/vautour will go for the ryanair, apart from that the rest sort themselves? (assuming all get there injury free)

I'd guess it will be Champagne Fever, unless Vautour doesn't stay in the KG

Much as I think Vatour was the most impressive winner of the week, I can't imagine he'll stay 3m 2f if Coneygree is in the field streching them to their limit.

Especially as owner/trainer have Djakadam and trainer has Don Poli.

I'd love to see Vatour run in the Champion Chase myself.



Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 16, 2015, 06:31:56 PM
Glens Melody retired to stud, so I guess that makes the World Hurdle even more unlikely...


Title: Re: Cheltenham Thread 2015
Post by: Marky147 on March 16, 2015, 06:32:53 PM
Tom Segal hacked Doob's account :)

First thing I'd do is give Annie a pair of Richie Rich's sunglasses...

lol

one of champagne fever/vautour will go for the ryanair, apart from that the rest sort themselves? (assuming all get there injury free)

I'd guess it will be Champagne Fever, unless Vautour doesn't stay in the KG

Much as I think Vatour was the most impressive winner of the week, I can't imagine he'll stay 3m 2f if Coneygree is in the field streching them to their limit.

Especially as owner/trainer have Djakadam and trainer has Don Poli.

I'd love to see Vatour run in the Champion Chase myself.



King George should be good next year, whatever happens!