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Title: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 04, 2015, 11:10:44 PM
Having finally recovered from the traumatic Amsterdam experience, I am ready to have another crack at the wizards.

The Irish Open is a great value event, with loads of online qualifiers and many local rofflers.

I've had a deep run there before, coming 20/708 for 13k in 2010. Lost KK v AA for the chip lead v Ben Roberts. Marv.

Looking to sell half my action at ~1.14

10% = £290

etc etc

Herbie mob is here: http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=112

Sharkscope is The Camel.

Cheers and good luck me!


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: scotty77 on March 04, 2015, 11:27:58 PM
3 please


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 04, 2015, 11:53:35 PM
3 please

Booked thanks Ryan.

30% gone by PM (split between a 20 and a 10)

17% left.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 04, 2015, 11:55:36 PM
Better reserve 2.5% each for Tikay, Junior and RedFox.

Will reopen if they don't confirm by the end of the week.

9.5% open for now.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on March 05, 2015, 08:35:54 AM
Better reserve 2.5% each for Tikay, Junior and RedFox.

Will reopen if they don't confirm by the end of the week.

9.5% open for now.

It's a bit scary that you predicted EXACTLY what I'd like to buy.

I'm not really buying much action at the moment, but I still like to buy a bit from my "regulars" from time to time, & it's time you & me had a bink in one of these.

2.5%, please.  (£145).

When is it, Keith? I'll ship the money at least a week before you head off.

Good luck, I'm relying on you to fund my Vegas trip.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Eso Kral on March 05, 2015, 08:41:47 AM
3% pls Keith


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: claypole on March 05, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
I'll take 2.5% please Mr Camel


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 05, 2015, 09:57:27 AM
Better reserve 2.5% each for Tikay, Junior and RedFox.

Will reopen if they don't confirm by the end of the week.

9.5% open for now.

It's a bit scary that you predicted EXACTLY what I'd like to buy.

I'm not really buying much action at the moment, but I still like to buy a bit from my "regulars" from time to time, & it's time you & me had a bink in one of these.

2.5%, please.  (£145).

When is it, Keith? I'll ship the money at least a week before you head off.

Good luck, I'm relying on you to fund my Vegas trip.

Booked, thanks Tikay.

It is the first week of April. I'll nudge you the week before as it's 1/33 you'll have forgotten.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 05, 2015, 09:57:49 AM
3% pls Keith


Booked thanks Rich.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 05, 2015, 09:58:35 AM
I'll take 2.5% please Mr Camel

Booked thanks Shaun.

You making the trip?

It's a fun tournament.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Junior Senior on March 05, 2015, 11:19:50 AM
Go on then.
I'll spend some of my sky min cash on you Keith. I am pot stuck now anyway :-) x


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Karabiner on March 05, 2015, 11:54:38 AM
I'll take 1% for funkage purposes please Keith.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: claypole on March 05, 2015, 02:29:01 PM
I'll take 2.5% please Mr Camel

Booked thanks Shaun.

You making the trip?

It's a fun tournament.

Yes played it twice. I'll play the 20/30 seat mega if it runs that's how I've got In both teams but haven't had the email yet this year


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 05, 2015, 05:24:03 PM
Go on then.
I'll spend some of my sky min cash on you Keith. I am pot stuck now anyway :-) x

Thin brag but booked.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 05, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
I'll take 1% for funkage purposes please Keith.

Booked Uncle Ralph.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 05, 2015, 05:26:40 PM
5 and 2 are gone by PM.

I think I've sold a tad more than 50, but everyone is booked and 2.5 is reserved for RedFox.

Sold out. Thanks guys.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: RedFox on March 17, 2015, 01:35:01 PM
Hi Keith

Not been well but thanks for keeping 2.5 % for me.

Cheers

Malcolm


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 18, 2015, 01:25:22 AM
Hi Keith

Not been well but thanks for keeping 2.5 % for me.

Cheers

Malcolm

Hope you are feeling better now mate.

That's booked, thanks Malc.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 18, 2015, 01:27:12 AM
Time to tidy this up. This is what I've sold:


By PM #1 - 20% PAID
By PM #2 - 10% PAID
Twitter     -   5%
Scotty       -   3%
Eso Kral     -   3%
Tikay        - 2.5%
RedFoc     - 2.5%
Junior       - 2.5%
claypole    - 2.5%
Karabiner   - 1%

That's 52% sold, playing for 48% as of now.

Might swap a tiny bit when out there, but will play for at least 40% prob 45%.

Thanks guys.




Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Junior Senior on March 19, 2015, 09:28:38 PM
When is money due? I will send asap.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 21, 2015, 06:22:47 PM
When is money due? I will send asap.

Any time this week or the beginning of next week is fine.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 22, 2015, 12:00:44 AM
I missed out a 2% by PM in the initial list.

So 54% sold, playing for 46%

By PM #1 - 20% PAID
By PM #2 - 10% PAID
Twitter     -   5% PAID
Scotty       -   3%
Eso Kral     -   3%
Tikay        - 2.5%
RedFoc     - 2.5%
Junior       - 2.5%
claypole    - 2.5%
By PM #3  -  2%
Karabiner   - 1%


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Eso Kral on March 23, 2015, 04:05:29 PM
Paid in bank today Keith

GLGL


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 24, 2015, 06:07:51 PM
Paid in bank today Keith

GLGL

Go it, thanks Rich

Updated list


By PM #1 - 20% PAID
By PM #2 - 10% PAID
Twitter     -   5% PAID
Scotty       -   3%
Eso Kral     -   3% PAID
Tikay        - 2.5%
RedFox     - 2.5%
Junior       - 2.5% PAID
claypole    - 2.5%
By PM #3  -  2%
Karabiner   - 1%


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on March 25, 2015, 08:56:03 AM
Morning Mr H.

£145 sent by Bank TX.

I expect you to accumulate a stack of at least this magnitude, OK? Looks like well over a million chips there. Name the occasion, & how you managed to get rid of them.



(http://edge1.pokerlistings.com/assets/photos/keith-hawkins-23294.jpg)


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on March 25, 2015, 11:22:52 AM
Better reserve 2.5% each for Tikay, Junior and RedFox.

Will reopen if they don't confirm by the end of the week.

9.5% open for now.

It's a bit scary that you predicted EXACTLY what I'd like to buy.

I'm not really buying much action at the moment, but I still like to buy a bit from my "regulars" from time to time, & it's time you & me had a bink in one of these.

2.5%, please.  (£145).

When is it, Keith? I'll ship the money at least a week before you head off.

Good luck, I'm relying on you to fund my Vegas trip.

Keith,

I've had a complaint from my Accountants, Shalson Shalson & Shalson, C.A.

It seems I did a booboo, & my 2.5% should have been £72.50, NOT £145.

We agreed 2.5%, so I've overpaid £72.50, I am informed.

Sort it out however most convenient, please.

Sorry.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 25, 2015, 11:50:33 AM
Morning Mr H.

£145 sent by Bank TX.

I expect you to accumulate a stack of at least this magnitude, OK? Looks like well over a million chips there. Name the occasion, & how you managed to get rid of them.



(http://edge1.pokerlistings.com/assets/photos/keith-hawkins-23294.jpg)


2008 WSOP Main Event, day 5. And that picture is taken about 3 hours before the hand of poker I regret more than any other I've ever played.

That table was really tough, that's David Benefield to my immediate left and there were a couple of other wizards at the table too. But it broke and I got moved to an absolutely dream table with about 5 complete ROFFLERS.

I had 1.2 million and the blinds were 10,000/20,000.

Guy opens to 60,000 I had AK suited in the sb. I call, now the bb proceeds to make it 110,000.

To this day I have no idea what this raise was supposed to achieve. Maybe he had a huge hand and was 3 betting to induce the initial raiser to 4bet. But I honestly doubt he would have enough about him to do that.

Initial raiser calls and I call ??

On any other table I 4bet here. But I wanted to play low risk poker because these boys were gagging to give their chips away.

Flop xxx with one of my suit.

I check folded and it obv came runner runner flush for my hand.

Never won another hand significant hand and busted early on day 6 shoving 20 bbs with J9 into AK.

Marvellous.

Yes, Mr Shalson is correct you've overpaid. My internet banking seems to down atm, but I will ship it back later today assuming they fix it.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 26, 2015, 11:47:24 AM
Overpayment returned Tikay.

By PM #1 - 20% PAID
By PM #2 - 10% PAID
Twitter     -   5% PAID
Scotty       -   3%
Eso Kral     -   3% PAID
Tikay        - 2.5% PAID
RedFox     - 2.5%
Junior       - 2.5% PAID
claypole    - 2.5%
By PM #3  -  2%
Karabiner   - 1%


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on March 26, 2015, 11:53:41 AM


Thanks Keith, & sorry for the confusion. I blame Uncle Ralph, for spotting it. Not much gets past his beady eye.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Karabiner on March 26, 2015, 12:42:36 PM


Thanks Keith, & sorry for the confusion. I blame Uncle Ralph, for spotting it. Not much gets past his beady eye.

I merely pointed out that either you had overpaid or I was underpaying.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: claypole on March 27, 2015, 06:59:45 PM
All paid Keith - sent you a PM on facebook. Gl us


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on March 28, 2015, 08:44:32 AM
Overpayment returned Tikay.

By PM #1 - 20% PAID
By PM #2 - 10% PAID
Twitter     -   5% PAID
Scotty       -   3%
Eso Kral     -   3% PAID
Tikay        - 2.5% PAID
RedFox     - 2.5%
Junior       - 2.5% PAID
claypole    - 2.5%
By PM #3  -  2%
Karabiner   - 1%

Just to confirm, I have received the refund, thanks Keith.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Karabiner on March 28, 2015, 11:22:08 AM
£29 shipped to your bank Keith.

GL


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 30, 2015, 04:37:14 PM
£29 shipped to your bank Keith.

GL

Got it, thanks Ralph.

Updated list

By PM #1 - 20% PAID
By PM #2 - 10% PAID
Twitter     -   5% PAID
Scotty       -   3% PAID
Eso Kral     -   3% PAID
Tikay        - 2.5% PAID
RedFox    - 2.5%
Junior       - 2.5% PAID
claypole    - 2.5% PAID
By PM #3  -  2% CANCELLED
Karabiner   - 1% PAID

Flights booked. Unfortunately having to fly with RyanAir. So will probably be on raging tilt when the tournament starts.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: action man on March 30, 2015, 06:36:56 PM
need a roomie?


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on March 30, 2015, 09:03:05 PM
need a roomie?

Fine with me, but I better run it by Katharine and Jake first!


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: RedFox on March 31, 2015, 01:10:06 PM
Hi Keith

£72.50 shipped good luck


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 03, 2015, 09:25:01 AM


Good luck Mr H.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 03, 2015, 09:43:01 AM


Good luck Mr H.

Thanks Tikay.

Already running good.

Hotel overbooked so got a free upgrade to a 600 euro per night suite :)


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: OverTheBorder on April 03, 2015, 11:22:21 AM


Good luck Mr H.

Thanks Tikay.

Already running good.

Hotel overbooked so got a free upgrade to a 600 euro per night suite :)

More room for Trigg :)


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Karabiner on April 04, 2015, 01:14:23 AM
31. Hawkins Keith 69025. :)


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Tal on April 04, 2015, 01:23:37 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBrNQrxWgAI0LEA.jpg)

Unintentional photobomb?

(Photo taken by Fintan Gavin of Mr Ambo)


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 04, 2015, 11:13:44 AM
Can't remember the last time I got run over by the deck as heartily as I did yesterday.

I had sets, flushes, straights, even houses and quads (!!!) coming out of my ears.

Virtually never got paid though. If a few players had decided I couldn't possibly have as many hands as i was representing and got busy against me I would be chip leader.

More than happy with 68k though. No one on my table I recognise today - that used to be a good thing in the old days, but now it's probably a bad thing.

We are either one of the first or one of the last to break.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: action man on April 04, 2015, 11:44:21 AM
glad i snagged a piece, gogogog


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Doobs on April 04, 2015, 12:20:18 PM
good luck Keith


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: booder on April 04, 2015, 12:37:31 PM
good luck Keith


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 05, 2015, 01:36:14 AM
Brutal day.

My table started great, but the ice creamss got replaced by geniuses very quickly

Didn't find a decent hand or spot all day until doubled on the last level with AQ v AT. Board ran out K92..........T..............J!

Then second last hand of the night I had about 100k I raised with AJ to 8k (playing 2000-4000/400), BB shoved for 70k.

I called, he had A9.

9 on flop, down to 35k.

I shoved that on the last hand but got no action.

Ended the day with 44k. Assume blinds will be 3000-6000/500

#depressed


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: George2Loose on April 05, 2015, 01:42:33 AM
Bright side- they're 2.5/5k

Gl!


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2015, 01:43:03 AM
#chipandachair

Good luck!


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: celtic on April 05, 2015, 01:51:47 AM
All the best tomorrow keefy.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2015, 01:54:59 AM
All the best tomorrow keefy.

What he said. Best of luck, sir.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2015, 02:00:55 AM

Keep the faith Keith.

Shame about that pesky 9.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Karabiner on April 05, 2015, 02:18:32 AM
That's plenty for a man of your calibre.

One time for the gipper.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Doobs on April 05, 2015, 09:18:26 AM
Easy game with 9 bigs.  Good luck


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: kp24 on April 05, 2015, 11:28:58 AM
Gl Keith


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Dewi_cool on April 05, 2015, 01:53:15 PM
Keith up to 214k


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
Keith up to 214k

oioi


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Karabiner on April 05, 2015, 03:08:40 PM
ITM with 180k. Av is 260k.

The only way is up baby :)


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2015, 03:22:27 PM


From the Paddy Power Irish Open blog, penned by none other than Jen Mason, ably assisted by Dana......


Keith Hawkins returned with seven big blinds, and after winning our Grinder of the Day award yesterday, built it to over 20.  Neil Channing seems to see something symbolic in this – after all he has metaphorically risen from the dead.  On the third day of the Irish Open.



(https://paddypowerpokerblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/irish-open-2015-day-3-keith-hawkins-2.jpg?w=274&h=300)


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2015, 03:37:31 PM
Go on the Camel!


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: kp24 on April 05, 2015, 04:39:14 PM
Nice one


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2015, 05:22:57 PM
And the dream is over.


Hawkins Bows Out in 23rd Place (€7,750)

The full action is amiss but Keith Hawkins was all in for around 100,000 in chips with Ad-6s and Kevin Killeen looked him up with the Ah-9h- The 9c-9s-8h flop was a disaster for Hawkins and he already grabbed his belongings.

With the 5d on the turn, suddenly a gutshot emerged but the As on the river was of no help and sent Hawkins out in 23rd place.

Kevin Killeen 480,000



Great effort Keith.

(Taken from the Paddy Power Blog)


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2015, 05:25:13 PM





With the three table (24 player) redraw having just been done, there are seven players – PaddyPower Poker online qualifiers into the Irish Open Main Event – still in with a shot of picking up the bonus €50,000 that comes with outlasting the others.  Andreas Leledakis has the healthiest stack of the contenders with 643,000.  The others remaining:
 
Declan Connolly
 Chris Dowling
 Ronan Gilligan
 James McManus
 Feargal Nealon
 Ioannis Trantafyllakis
 
When the announcement was made that these seven were all that were left competing for Sole Survivor status, Keith Hawkins asked his table, “Will someone sell me a sole survivor thing for a grand?”  No one did.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: TightEnd on April 05, 2015, 05:35:18 PM
great effort well played

how did you find the tournament..great atmosphere like previous years?


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 05, 2015, 07:29:37 PM
great effort well played

how did you find the tournament..great atmosphere like previous years?

Thanks Tighty.

I am hardly Paddy Power's biggest fan, but I cannot deny what a great job they do to to encourage a good atmosphere here.

They employ Mad Marty as MC, with his boundless enthusiasm, he can get the stoniest faced grinder grinning.

Drinking games, pool tables, arcade games, an hour each night where you toss a coin and if you win Paddy pays for your round.

Probably the best free buffet anywhere (and they give all the players remaining a free buffet every day - most only feed you on day 1 - a nice touch)

In short it's great. The atmosphere at the tables is great fun and most everyone joins in.

10/10


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 05, 2015, 07:33:10 PM
Can everyone who bought a share let me know how they want paying?

I can either send you a bank transfer at the rate I change my currency at or pay you Euros in cash.

I'm pretty likely to go to DTD for the Pokerstars thing in a couple of weeks, so can let you have the Euros there.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Eso Kral on April 05, 2015, 07:58:50 PM
Congratudolances Keith!

Euros fine with me at Dtd and I will be there for most of the week so can hook up there.

Wp again


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: claypole on April 05, 2015, 08:37:05 PM
Wp mate - great sweat - cash for me by bank


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2015, 10:26:18 PM

Bank TX for me please, Keith.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Junior Senior on April 06, 2015, 10:11:14 AM
Only just seen this.
Great run Keith!

I would like bank transfer please. I believe you have my details but let me know if not.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Omm on April 06, 2015, 01:00:37 PM
Great result Camel, well done.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: RedFox on April 06, 2015, 01:47:19 PM
Well done Keith

Id be happy to reinvest if you want staking at DTD

Cheers

Malcolm


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Marky147 on April 06, 2015, 02:04:09 PM
Well played, Keith, great run!

Definitely going to try and qualify for this next year.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Big_D on April 06, 2015, 08:01:33 PM
Very Well done Keith!


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: iangascoigne on April 06, 2015, 10:31:47 PM
  Well done ! Love poker in Ireland.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 07, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
Thanks for the good wishes guys. Really mean a great deal.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 07, 2015, 07:04:47 PM
But now a rant.

You might have noticed I rarely have a good word for bookmakers.

But the men who hold the satchels are like aid workers in Syria compared to the pawnbrokers/pay day loan shops/exchange bureaus like Ramsdens and the Money Shop.

I tried to change €2000 into sterling today and they wanted £140 for the privilege.

A woman was changing £2000 into Euros before me and they made £80 from her.

I did (obv) try to cut out the middle man scumbag and offered her 1c over spot to change direct with me.

But she clearly didn't like the cut of my gib and turned me down.

So Ramsdens would have made £220 in 3 minutes for swapping her money for my money had I not declined their offer.

I don't begrudge them 2% or so for their service. But nearly 9% is highway robbery.

They are complete and utter scum.

Will try my friendly local casino tonight.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 07, 2015, 07:12:50 PM


Seems a tad harsh, Keith.

They are selling a convenience product in a competitive marketplace. 

No different to a loaf of bread in Tesco, where we happily pay them their profit margin of whatever it is. And if we don't like Tesco'a price, we can trundle along to Sainsbury. Which is cheaper, but less convenient. 

I suppose it feels different because it is money, but it's not really. 

If you ran a business, would you feel entitled to charge what the market would stand, & in doing so, maybe earn yourself a few bob to pay your overheads, costs, & a bit of profit?


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 07, 2015, 07:18:10 PM


Seems a tad harsh, Keith.

They are selling a convenience product in a competitive marketplace. 

No different to a loaf of bread in Tesco, where we happily pay them their profit margin of whatever it is. And if we don't like Tesco'a price, we can trundle along to Sainsbury. Which is cheaper, but less convenient. 

I suppose it feels different because it is money, but it's not really. 

If you ran a business, would you feel entitled to charge what the market would stand, & in doing so, maybe earn yourself a few bob to pay your overheads, costs, & a bit of profit?

9% though?

I remember Joe Beevers worked out if you took £1000 into Barclays on the 1st of June and changed it into dollars and then changed back to sterling on the 2nd. And repeated this every day for the month, you'd have no money left by June 30th.

For £100 I can understand charging a little higher than my 2% benchmark, to cover exes and admin.

But neither would consider a reduction for a bulk sale.

At Tescos if you bought 1000 loaves of bread, you'd expect a discount, no?


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 07, 2015, 07:24:27 PM


Seems a tad harsh, Keith.

They are selling a convenience product in a competitive marketplace. 

No different to a loaf of bread in Tesco, where we happily pay them their profit margin of whatever it is. And if we don't like Tesco'a price, we can trundle along to Sainsbury. Which is cheaper, but less convenient. 

I suppose it feels different because it is money, but it's not really. 

If you ran a business, would you feel entitled to charge what the market would stand, & in doing so, maybe earn yourself a few bob to pay your overheads, costs, & a bit of profit?

9% though?

I remember Joe Beevers worked out if you took £1000 into Barclays on the 1st of June and changed it into dollars and then changed back to sterling on the 2nd. And repeated this every day for the month, you'd have no money left by June 30th.

For £100 I can understand charging a little higher than my 2% benchmark, to cover exes and admin.

But neither would consider a reduction for a bulk sale.

At Tescos if you bought 1000 loaves of bread, you'd expect a discount, no?

Well I guess they have chosen a "flat %" model, they could just as easily charge 20% for tiddly amounts, & 2% for large amounts, yes.

As it turned out, you exercised your right to go elsewhere - but it has cost you in terms of inconvenience, time, &, most unlike you, got you into rant-mode, which has probably chopped 5 minutes of your lifespan due to the stress. 

Every time we have a rant, we lose 5 minutes, you know. 


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 07, 2015, 08:00:59 PM


Seems a tad harsh, Keith.

They are selling a convenience product in a competitive marketplace. 

No different to a loaf of bread in Tesco, where we happily pay them their profit margin of whatever it is. And if we don't like Tesco'a price, we can trundle along to Sainsbury. Which is cheaper, but less convenient. 

I suppose it feels different because it is money, but it's not really. 

If you ran a business, would you feel entitled to charge what the market would stand, & in doing so, maybe earn yourself a few bob to pay your overheads, costs, & a bit of profit?

9% though?

I remember Joe Beevers worked out if you took £1000 into Barclays on the 1st of June and changed it into dollars and then changed back to sterling on the 2nd. And repeated this every day for the month, you'd have no money left by June 30th.

For £100 I can understand charging a little higher than my 2% benchmark, to cover exes and admin.

But neither would consider a reduction for a bulk sale.

At Tescos if you bought 1000 loaves of bread, you'd expect a discount, no?

Well I guess they have chosen a "flat %" model, they could just as easily charge 20% for tiddly amounts, & 2% for large amounts, yes.

As it turned out, you exercised your right to go elsewhere - but it has cost you in terms of inconvenience, time, &, most unlike you, got you into rant-mode, which has probably chopped 5 minutes of your lifespan due to the stress. 

Every time we have a rant, we lose 5 minutes, you know. 

I gain about a week.

If nothing got me riled, I would fade into an apathetic stupor and be dead within the month.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: tikay on April 07, 2015, 08:02:07 PM


Seems a tad harsh, Keith.

They are selling a convenience product in a competitive marketplace. 

No different to a loaf of bread in Tesco, where we happily pay them their profit margin of whatever it is. And if we don't like Tesco'a price, we can trundle along to Sainsbury. Which is cheaper, but less convenient. 

I suppose it feels different because it is money, but it's not really. 

If you ran a business, would you feel entitled to charge what the market would stand, & in doing so, maybe earn yourself a few bob to pay your overheads, costs, & a bit of profit?

9% though?

I remember Joe Beevers worked out if you took £1000 into Barclays on the 1st of June and changed it into dollars and then changed back to sterling on the 2nd. And repeated this every day for the month, you'd have no money left by June 30th.

For £100 I can understand charging a little higher than my 2% benchmark, to cover exes and admin.

But neither would consider a reduction for a bulk sale.

At Tescos if you bought 1000 loaves of bread, you'd expect a discount, no?

Well I guess they have chosen a "flat %" model, they could just as easily charge 20% for tiddly amounts, & 2% for large amounts, yes.

As it turned out, you exercised your right to go elsewhere - but it has cost you in terms of inconvenience, time, &, most unlike you, got you into rant-mode, which has probably chopped 5 minutes of your lifespan due to the stress. 

Every time we have a rant, we lose 5 minutes, you know. 

I gain about a week.

If nothing got me riled, I would fade into an apathetic stupor and be dead within the month.

On that basis, you might just live for ever.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 07, 2015, 08:24:08 PM


Seems a tad harsh, Keith.

They are selling a convenience product in a competitive marketplace. 

No different to a loaf of bread in Tesco, where we happily pay them their profit margin of whatever it is. And if we don't like Tesco'a price, we can trundle along to Sainsbury. Which is cheaper, but less convenient. 

I suppose it feels different because it is money, but it's not really. 

If you ran a business, would you feel entitled to charge what the market would stand, & in doing so, maybe earn yourself a few bob to pay your overheads, costs, & a bit of profit?

9% though?

I remember Joe Beevers worked out if you took £1000 into Barclays on the 1st of June and changed it into dollars and then changed back to sterling on the 2nd. And repeated this every day for the month, you'd have no money left by June 30th.

For £100 I can understand charging a little higher than my 2% benchmark, to cover exes and admin.

But neither would consider a reduction for a bulk sale.

At Tescos if you bought 1000 loaves of bread, you'd expect a discount, no?

Well I guess they have chosen a "flat %" model, they could just as easily charge 20% for tiddly amounts, & 2% for large amounts, yes.

As it turned out, you exercised your right to go elsewhere - but it has cost you in terms of inconvenience, time, &, most unlike you, got you into rant-mode, which has probably chopped 5 minutes of your lifespan due to the stress. 

Every time we have a rant, we lose 5 minutes, you know. 

I gain about a week.

If nothing got me riled, I would fade into an apathetic stupor and be dead within the month.

On that basis, you might just live for ever.

This song is especially apt if you happen to support Queens Park Rangers

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Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Rupert on April 09, 2015, 07:30:35 PM
I love reading Camels anti free-market rants. FX in particular is extremely competitive and consumers have a choice. Glad you're using your options and being savvy!


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2015, 10:18:15 PM
Found someone to buy them at spot at DTD next week

Will make transfers asap if this comes through.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: bergeroo on April 11, 2015, 11:53:34 AM
well played in Dublin Keith. Pleasure to play with you for a bit at the end of day one.

Stupid Question. If you stood outside one of these currency places for a few hours with a pocket full of cash and tried to poach everyone walking in by offerining to do it at spot or 1% could they call the police? Are you committing a crime? If so what is it?


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: Simon Galloway on April 11, 2015, 01:03:47 PM
Such a dog to get anyone walk by that understood what they were doing, they'd push past you and pay the spread instead, without realising that that was what they had done.


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 13, 2015, 07:11:24 PM
well played in Dublin Keith. Pleasure to play with you for a bit at the end of day one.

Stupid Question. If you stood outside one of these currency places for a few hours with a pocket full of cash and tried to poach everyone walking in by offerining to do it at spot or 1% could they call the police? Are you committing a crime? If so what is it?

Ahh, now I can put a face to a name on here.

Good to play with you too Bergeroo. Congrats on the deep run.

Was a fun tournament, wasn't it?


Title: Re: Irish Open 2015 selling 50% at ~ 1.14
Post by: The Camel on April 13, 2015, 07:39:28 PM
Such a dog to get anyone walk by that understood what they were doing, they'd push past you and pay the spread instead, without realising that that was what they had done.

Pretty much this.

Suspect anyone you offer money to will assume you are trying to rip them off in some way.