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So excited for this event. I can't think of many sporting events I've looked forward to more and I'm not even a big boxing fan, although I have followed both since they both beat Hatton. I didn't think it was ever going to happen so I don't care that it's "five years later than it should've been".

Going to be biggest fight ever, what's your prediction ?

I'd love to see Manny win but if I had a bet it would be be on Mayweather on points.

Mayweather by split decision. Crowd boos.

I am going to be all over it, the hype will actually bring me in for this.

Unfortunately my head says Mayweather will win by UD as his defensive skills are too much for a past his peak Pacquiao. This why we all wanted this in 2010ish when Pacquiao was at this peak and the intrigue was that his quick hands might be too much for Mayweather.

Come on Manny!

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather,_Jr._vs._Manny_Pacquiao

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=65282.msg2036366#msg2036366

Merged :)up

Just so you can get credit for starting the thread? Incred scenes

I would have been all over it 5+ years ago but been so dragged out over the years that it I don't think it will be the fight it should have been.

The age and declining speed factor weighs in Mayweather's favour, obv why he ducked it so long.

They booked it the wrong weekend though, I leave Vegas 2 days before the fight!!!

Nope, Ray still has the OP and shows as the starter of the thread. My posts were merged into his thread :)

15 days to go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiO6-5Qj4Zs

I can only imagine what you're like atm, Ray ;D

Haha, u know it :)

Five years too late for me too, both past their prime now.

Manny Pacquiao's bus has an absolutely fantastic paint job.

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Dare I ask if any of the Sky Sport preview shows have been worth watching?

Nearly a million dollars for a pair of ringside seats.

Some people must need their heads examined.

There's so much money flying around, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this ends in a draw.

So we can do it all again in a years time.

Those yanks love a conspiracy theory and have backed the draw into +800.

As for a rematch well there's a market for that http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/floyd-mayweather-jr-v-manny-pacquiao/rematch-within-a-year (http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/floyd-mayweather-jr-v-manny-pacquiao/rematch-within-a-year)

I wouldn't want to lay 18/1 if I was a bookmaker.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH03yYCzuGI


Pacquaio is a funny guy :D

Thin i know but i want to lay claim to being the guy who laid bottom priced Money at 2/7 on bf amongst other trades i have made on the fight when the market first opened!!



Draw
26   £15.50   
£387.50
Manny Pacquiao
3.55   £47.85   
£122.02
Manny Pacquiao
3.5   £246.15   
£615.38
Lay (Bet Against)   Backer's odds   Backer's stake   Your liability
Floyd Mayweather Jr
1.28   £13.65   
£3.82
Draw
20   £20.43   
£388.17
Manny Pacquiao
3.15   £6.65   
£14.30
Manny Pacquiao
3.25   £222.00   
£499.50
Manny Pacquiao
3.2   £100.00   
£220.00

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/32509205

Whatever you think about Mayweather you have to respect his ability to get paid what he is worth in a sport which the fighters usually get ripped off throughout their careers.

Love this quote.

Asked if the outcome of his fight with Pacquiao might define his entire career, Mayweather replied: "One fight won't define my career, the thing that will define my career is that I was a great businessman."
It's not glorious or romantic or what boxing fans want to hear. But Mayweather, who has never been beaten in 47 fights since turning pro in 1996, at least made some sense when he was asked what it would mean to him to retire undefeated: "Money is more important than any records - my daughters can't eat no zero."

There's a good insightful article here on how the US bookmakers are setting the lines for May Pac in anticipation of how people will bet http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2015/04/mayweather-pacquiao_betting_ho.html (http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2015/04/mayweather-pacquiao_betting_ho.html)

What time is this likely to actually start and are there any fights before worth watching?

Is Khan on the undercard?

They're normally about 5.

Not sure, but I'll probably watch them anyway, as there isn't much else on at that time of night.

skybet gone 9/4 Pacman on a price boost.  Well under 2/1 on machine now.  Wondering how much shorter he will go?

Oddschecker says 530am start for the fight.

4am and that's a women's 4am ie it not earlier than 4am but probably later than 4.

On this big a platform both co-promoters have gone for a showcase undercard where they put up there next best stars in fights designed to make them look good. It'll be flashy but without any remotely close fights.

*So the undercard fights should have early KO's instead of dragging on and on and delaying the main event.

Thanks all.

Yeah the undercard is pretty lame but given it was only ever going to have a negligible impact on the number of PPV buys then it's hardly surprising.

I'm starting to think I might see 4/6 Floyd before too long.

I am starting to think he might go off evens if this drift keeps going!  He is virtually 4/6 now on bf.

When trying to organise a get together for this fight some of my mate's wanted to have a full sleep then get up early for the start of the main event.

If that's what you're trying to figure out then perhaps get Marky to give you a wake up call come fight time.

mayweather to win on points has drifted to 1.8 from 1.6

at what point is the price "fair value" for wat must be the most likely result?

Last time we tried this we had a shed load, early doors. Went back to mine with a pizza, I think, asleep by 11pm.

I woke up to see Tyson biting Holyfields ear off and ran round the room trying to wake everyone up, and them going back to sleep, not believing a word of it.

Waited too long to miss this one.

Evens on the machine.  It is only going to get bigger surely?.  Surprised Money is drifting this much this early tbh given that article on the vegas betting markets. 

What is a draw normally priced at? Coz it's 17/1 on Betfair.
Imagine how much money everyone (but the punters!) would make if it was a draw and a rematch.

1/6 Mayweather to have the best punch landed percentage is stealing it. There will be >10% between them.

 Makes sense bazaa. You got a link?

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/#boxing-floyd-mayweather-jr-v-manny-pacquiao-better-punch-landed-pp

The line for Mayweather's landed percentage is set at 40.5, Pacs is 27.5. No one has ever landed more than 26% on Mayweather, Pac may beat that but on the flip side he isn't hard to hit so difficult to see Mayweather dropping below 40%

DTD tonight

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Pacman is 9/4 on Fred's price boost. £100 max dunno how long it'll last.

I managed to get two quid on the draw ages ago:

Back (Bet For)    Odds    Stake    Profit
Draw    40    £2.00    
£78.00

I'm also on Mayweather to win after being knocked down and also just to win with Paddy Power as they offer a £10 free in-play bet if you bet £20...

Mayweather 2.1 on Betfair to win by Decision just has to be a good bet, we spoke about it in boxing thread couple months ago and said 1.84 was a good bet but the price would drift, who knows maybe it will drift even more.

SO EXCITED!

It's a great bet at that price but I'm happy to let it drift some more. The Pac KO price is stupidly short. He hasn't stopped anyone since Cotto in 2009.. He isn't a one punch KO artist therefore it's hard to see how he forces the stoppage against Floyd who has a great chin and rarely gets caught cleanly.

The 2.32 for him to win on points is a better bet. You lose if he loses on a technical decision but the bigger price more than makes up for that.

On SSN last night during the Live Weigh in, one of the presenters said they over heard Andre Ward and another boxer shouting "Wow, the Old Manny is back", this was in reference to the size of his legs.

That said I totally agree it seems a very unlikely outcome.

I've actually been constantly saying I can't see any outcome when Mayweather wins other than by points, however I'm starting to doubt that a little now. Generally in Floyd's fights the other guy gets to around the 7-9th rounds and just gives up as they know it's gg and Floyd just coasts it. I don't see Manny ever doing that so think there is a worry he gets reckless and Manny get's ko'd.

Not of they above is in relation to what bets I think are value btw, just sharing some thoughts I have for the fight.

Deffo going to bed early tonight, do I set the alarm for 4AM or risk the 10AM replay?

Something just seems wrong about not watching it live.

I've done so many of these Vegas fights in the last 20 years, and almost every time they say 4AM, they really mean 5.30 AM.

A Brit who calls himself Jack Slack is imo about a million times better than most other MMA writers. He does boxing too.

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/killing-a-king-mayweather-versus-pacquiao

my alarm is set for 5

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That's a fantastic piece. Thanks.

Money coming for Mayweather now. Back in to 1.58 on BF

+1

Excellent stuff.

Fucks sake Jim Watt. Maybe, just maybe, Lomanchenko is vocal about low blows after Salido punched him balls all night long and the ref did nothing about. 

I'm up, lets do this bitches

Biggest fight in history and we have to listen to Watt and Halling. Then between fights we need to listen to Carl "I knocked out George Groves at Wembley Stadium in front of 80,000 people" Froch. What did we do to deserve that?

Pour yourself a drink Bazza, it's almost time for the big one!

Had to turn the build up off earlier, when Froch used the time given to question Mayweather, so he could talk about him training for the Groves fight, as if Mayweather gave a fuck.

Just LOL!

Manny troubles Floyd early doors with his southpaw stance and work rate, I wouldn't be surprised if he went fav at one point. There won't be much between them at halfway but Floyd will take over in the second half of the fight as he figures Manny out and Manny starts to slow. Floyd dominates the last 3 rounds and Manny is happy to hear the final bell in the end. 116-112 Floyd.

As long as they both get knocked down at some point, I'm freerolling :D

I think I've heard Froch say Nottingham more times than the everyone else on the broadcast say Las Vegas

There's a touch of Alan Partridge to Carl Froch and its entertainng.

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I could imagine him saying this

Buzzword Bingo:

1/10 Jim Watt: Manny Pacquiao is looking the boss in there.

7-1 Nick Halling: nothing to phase Kell Brook

Sadly going as expected.

Bad judges decision on the cards IMO, rematch $$$$$$

Get to Bed    :)

Anything can happen after Bradley got the win vs Manny :)

Floyd put on a clinic, just too good.

Corrupt decision coming in 3....2....1

I'll take that!!

Floyd lands 34%, Manny 19%. Floyd also threw more punches (Manny was 1/12 to throw more) But yeah you won Manny. As good as Floyd was it was a really lacklustre performance from Pac, he threw about 300 punches less than he needed to to make it competitive.

Manny has aged terribly. No lateral head movement, slow legs, shoulder rolls all gone.

Hugely overhyped for a guy that far gone. Floyd obv a class above.

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Shame Golovkin isn't a little bit smaller.

cheers bazza.  Awesome work finding that.  Felt illegal taking the profit this morning at 1/6. 

I think that's the end of boxing btw. That was the last big fight the general public give a shit about IMO. UFC will now take over because their fan base is super engaged with the sport.

Comical how many people on my social media feeds though Pacman won.

Casual boxing fans may well think he won. He's aggressive and Floyd backs off with single shots. People who don't watch boxing too regularly might well think that. Especially if you can't hear the commentators.

This will never happen.  UFC is far too brutal to watch for the vast majority of casual fight fans.  I know loads of people who casually love boxing but would never watch UFC because it is so raw and brutal.  It has it's own niche market and will stay like that imo.  If it is about to take over when is a UFC fight going to gross even 10% of what that fight did last night?  Literally no chance.

My point is less that UFC will get massive and more that boxing is about to go on a massive decline. We'll probably never see a boxing match gross 10% of last night.

Mayweather hasn't retired yet. But yeah when he goes it will leave a void in the short term as there are no other fighters out there at the minute that have really caught the public's imagination. However in time others will come to the fore.

It's a pity there aren't more fights that capture the public's imagination as it doesn't have lead to some ridic value.

Mayweather's next fight will gross way more than 10% of last night.  Money will be on £30m min for the final fight of his contract alone without everyone else taking their cut.

(not a boxing fan, so i ask as an outsider)

why does mayweather capture the fans interest?

a serial domestic abuser with an extremely boring fighting style..single hit, run and avoid etc etc...can see why that would appeal to purists but what's the fuss about such an objectionable person?

He's one of the best of all time.  He is also exceptionally good at self promotion. The public tend to have a love hate relationship with him. He is far from a popular figure but still they pay to watch him.

He sells the 'dream' lifestyle that so many young men aspire to/dream of imo.  Loads of cash/birds/cars/gambling etc.  That sells his product to the typical yank male imo.  His ability to use social media to engage with his customers is second to none in sport.  Underneath all the hype/flash harry image he is a totally serious athlete who treats his body like a business.  He looks in game shape virtually every day of the year no matter when his next fight is.  The total opposite of a guy like Hatton who had to shift 3 stone twice a year between fights.

Indeed. I can't see Floyd being interested in that and understandably so. I'll be happy with Thurman or Khan next up.

How would the Khan fight be priced up?

Similar to last night I'm thinking?

Certainly think Khan gives him more trouble than Pacman did but  Mayweather would still do enough.

You think that could happen at Wembley or is Money always just going to fight in the USA/Vegas because of the time difference just doesn't make it work from a business point of view?  Froch seemed to enjoy telling Money that he had fought in front of 80.000 fans and Money hadn't.

Floyd a lot shorter. Public money meant he went off at an inflated price as the public love Manny. The public don't particularly rate or like Khan. Many of them still remember him flat on his back after being sparked by Prescott. Mayweather no bigger than 2/5.

The only attraction I think would be fighting in front of 80,000 fans, possibly with being his last ever fight he might fancy that but Mayweather being Mayweather it would be more likely be wherever he's guaranteed the most coin!

Bazza you think the Khan fight will be made?

Khan has Ramadan in September so sorta rules that month out although Mayweather said he will fight again in September.

I'm not convinced however there aren't all that many options out there for him. Khan not being able to fight in September is an obvious barrier.

The list of credible names is really short. By default Miguel Cotto must be up there and he was more a of live runner in the last Mayweather sweepstakes than Khan was.

What's happened to Danny Garcia ?

Is Khan even anywhere near his stratosphere to be in consideration? I always got the impression that he was better about talking himself up than he actually is, but then again I don't know a huge amount about boxing...

Khan and Brook fill spots 3,4, or 5 in anyone's 147lb top ten list. Floyd has beaten most of the other credible guys hence why he filled in time by giving Maidana a re-match.

Cotto at catch weight for the middleweight title probably makes most $$ and gives him the chance of winning the title in another weight class (won't donthe ego any harm)The fact Cotto holds the WBC belt makes it even more likely as Floyd has always gone for the WBC belt throughout his career.

I was at that fight

The Filipino commentary team had Pac winning 116-111 and scored the 4th round 10-8 to Pac, and we thought Watt and Halling were bad!

What nobody has mentioned, is that going way back to 1996, Mayweather won a bronze medal at the very commercial Atalanta Olympic Games. Olypians have a head start in terms of profile, get favourable deals from promoters and these things can snowball on from there.

And let's not forget that Floyd has been a mainstay of pound for pound lists for the last 15 years and boxing writers speak very fondly of his reign at 130lbs. It's not all about the last 5 years.

The Filipinos are probably easier to listen to ;D

Rematch on the cards. Sigh.

Greedy fucks lol.

Surely no one will pay to watch that shite again?

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntwdH3Q54ZY

where is the rematch on the cards?  Link please.  I backed 7/4 hills a rematch before the end of 2016.  After that fight i ripped the ticket up.

Just got this on Skype off one of my mates


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068732/Amazing-blagger-Hull-tags-Leo-DiCaprio-s-entourage-ringside-fight-century-defended-security-Floyd-Mayweather-himself.html?ito=social-facebook


Fairplay to him :D

If he spent £2k on a ticket why didn't he spend £2k on a decent suit for the night as well?  He looks like he went to topman!  You have to laugh at these superstar security teams who constantly get owned by mugs like this guy and the two essex chavs.  Why don't the real stars of the show who pay the security sky high wages ever do anything about shit like this when it hits the press?

I guess if it only happens once in a while the celebs don't mind as it shows their human side.

Maybe it was one or the other... Nice new whistle, or get a ticket for the fight :)