Title: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 04:35:40 AM Who am i?
I'm a professional poker player from Peterborough playing a mixture of online MTTs ($20-$215), live MTTs generally between 1-5k buy-in. I also play 100NL 6-max zoom cash on pokerstars, and live cash games up to £5/£10. For recent online results check my pocketfives profile here: http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/gizzleduur/ For live scores find my hendon mob here: http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=85459 Why buy? I have put in serious volume online this year. My sharkscope results speaks themselves, winning on every site I play on. I have a number of regular backers who will happily provide recommendations on how quickly I sort out finance returns etc. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/helpless2k/sharknew2.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/helpless2k/media/sharknew2.png.html) What am I selling? Selected SCOOP Lows, Mediums and sats to Highs. May 10 (Sunday) 01-L $11 01-M $109 02-L $27 02-M $215 03-L $27 03-M $215 04-L $11 Turbo 04-M $109 Turbo -$724 May 12 (7pm) 09-L $11 09-M $109 Sat to 09-H $215 -$335 May 14 (7pm) 15-L $11 15-M $109 Sat to 15-H $215 *Progressive Super-Knockout -$335 May 17 (4/7pm) 23-L $27 23-M $215 24-L $27 24-M $215 -$484 May 19 (7pm) 30-L $11 30-M $109 Sat to 30-H $215 -$335 May 20 (7pm) 33-L $27 33-M $215 -$242 May 21 (7pm) 36-L $11 36-M $109 Sat to 30-H $215 *Progressive Super Knockout -$335 Total Buy-ins = $2,790 2.5% = $69.75 5% = $139.50 10% = $279 How to buy* - Transfer to my pokerstars handle temp0r2k and drop me a PM to confirm how much you want and what username you'll be shipping from. - I can also accept bank, PM me for details. *all funds must be transferred by midday 10/05/2015 Profitchop? Stakeback? The 90%/10% essentially means backers take 90% of all profits after 'stakeback.' Stakeback means backers receive all returns below an overall profit on the pack, you get all your investment back if I cash exactly $2,455. Anything extra is split 90/10 in buyers favour. :) Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: scotty77 on May 08, 2015, 04:42:29 AM 5 please. will send on saturday
Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 04:52:08 AM Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 12:07:51 PM 60% left
Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 08, 2015, 01:03:32 PM not flaming , genuinely don't understand
"The 90%/10% essentially means backers take 90% of all profits after 'stake back. " apologies if I'm reading this incorrectly ...... you're playing for 10 % ? and the stakers get 90 % ? If that's correct surely its not a big enough incentive for you to grind ? Also what the calculations for $2455 = all of stake back and do you need to sell out the whole 90 or 100 % Thanks Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 01:14:44 PM This deal roughly works out the same as selling at 1.1
Yes I need to sell the whole 100%, that won't be an issue. Yes I am playing for 10%, but I don't have to put up my own money, given the variance of SCOOP MTTs, I still stand to have a good lifetime hourly playing this way, risk free. Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 01:15:39 PM 35% left
Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 08, 2015, 02:02:04 PM Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: cambridgealex on May 08, 2015, 02:48:00 PM I don't mean to flame here, and I wouldn't post if the thread hadn't sold out, but surely this is not a good use of your time unless you're completely skint which obv your not.
There's 6 days in the schedule of an avg 8 hours per day (scoop days famously long, could be more) = 48 hours average total playing time. $2790 package, playing for 10% = $279. Say you have a 50% ROI, you'll earn $139.50 over the whole series, which over 48 hours is <$3/hour. Even if it was 100%, <$6/hour... Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 02:55:01 PM These are not the only comps I'll be grinding at the time though, I will still be playing my regular eurosite schedule on the side.
The variance on SCOOP fields is so high, however, that I'm opting to sell this way. If people assume I'm going to punt off just because I only take 10% of profits then they don't know me well enough or understand my desire to achieve. Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 02:59:46 PM PM'd Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 03:00:04 PM All under res for now
Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: cambridgealex on May 08, 2015, 03:03:29 PM These are not the only comps I'll be grinding at the time though, I will still be playing my regular eurosite schedule on the side. The variance on SCOOP fields is so high, however, that I'm opting to sell this way. If people assume I'm going to punt off just because I only take 10% of profits then they don't know me well enough or understand my desire to achieve. Yeh if you've got a normal schedule going on then that makes more sense. My point wasn't about punting off cos you only had 10%, it was just making the point that your hourly is minuscule in this schedule. Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 03:07:42 PM These are not the only comps I'll be grinding at the time though, I will still be playing my regular eurosite schedule on the side. The variance on SCOOP fields is so high, however, that I'm opting to sell this way. If people assume I'm going to punt off just because I only take 10% of profits then they don't know me well enough or understand my desire to achieve. Yeh if you've got a normal schedule going on then that makes more sense. My point wasn't about punting off cos you only had 10%, it was just making the point that your hourly is minuscule in this schedule. I don't have 3 monitors setup for only 3 tables mate ;) Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: George2Loose on May 08, 2015, 03:12:38 PM Fair play to you. Wouldn't it be more profitable to skip the mids and grind the lows on own dime? (Not flaming btw)
Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 08, 2015, 03:21:46 PM not flaming , genuinely don't understand "The 90%/10% essentially means backers take 90% of all profits after 'stake back. " apologies if I'm reading this incorrectly ...... you're playing for 10 % ? and the stakers get 90 % ? If that's correct surely its not a big enough incentive for you to grind ? Also what the calculations for $2455 = all of stake back and do you need to sell out the whole 90 or 100 % Thanks Well I did ask the question.... Surely you have to cash exactly $2790 for the stakers to get their money back ? not $2455 ? As I understand it I have 35% of the 90% remaining after stake back hence stake back =$2790 apologies if wrong or still don't understand Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 08, 2015, 03:32:07 PM not flaming , genuinely don't understand "The 90%/10% essentially means backers take 90% of all profits after 'stake back. " apologies if I'm reading this incorrectly ...... you're playing for 10 % ? and the stakers get 90 % ? If that's correct surely its not a big enough incentive for you to grind ? Also what the calculations for $2455 = all of stake back and do you need to sell out the whole 90 or 100 % Thanks Well I did ask the question.... Surely you have to cash exactly $2790 for the stakers to get their money back ? not $2455 ? As I understand it I have 35% of the 90% remaining after stake back hence stake back =$2790 apologies if wrong or still don't understand Yes if I cash $2790 exactly stakers get 100% of their investment back exactly. Not sure where the $2455 figure came from. I only had 22.5% left when you posted. Check your PM Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 08, 2015, 03:54:18 PM not flaming , genuinely don't understand "The 90%/10% essentially means backers take 90% of all profits after 'stake back. " apologies if I'm reading this incorrectly ...... you're playing for 10 % ? and the stakers get 90 % ? If that's correct surely its not a big enough incentive for you to grind ? Also what the calculations for $2455 = all of stake back and do you need to sell out the whole 90 or 100 % Thanks Well I did ask the question.... Surely you have to cash exactly $2790 for the stakers to get their money back ? not $2455 ? As I understand it I have 35% of the 90% remaining after stake back hence stake back =$2790 apologies if wrong or still don't understand Yes if I cash $2790 exactly stakers get 100% of their investment back exactly. Not sure where the $2455 figure came from. I only had 22.5% left when you posted. Check your PM Okay...best we all understand 22.5% it is...could be Fun good Luck Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: pleno1 on May 08, 2015, 04:40:04 PM couple of observations..
1.1 is not the same as selling 90/10 here, youre selling at a higher mu. it seems weird you wouldnt just take 100% of yourself in the 11/27/55 and sell for the 109/215, it would still be a decent deal for investors as other forums players of a similar ability go somewhere like 80/20. imagine binking a 11$ scoop and having $1 of action in it yourself? Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: youthnkzR on May 09, 2015, 01:08:10 AM The bit I don't get is that you play (so assuming your rolled for) £1 - £5ks live and play $20s - $215s online. Your going to have your highest ROI in the SCOOPs compared to other online MTTs of similar buyins, so if your rolled to play them why are you not playing them? Varience? Don't play MTTs then.
Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 09, 2015, 04:55:23 PM I grind eurosites for lower variance, playing deepstacks, rebuys, and bounties, I see these big field events as such ridiculous variance. However, you guys aren't the only ones to contact me suggesting that I'm screwing myself over long term by selling this way.
I've decided to drop the lows from the package, but keeping the profit chop the same. All investors have been contacted on facebook or by PM and have the option to drop out if they no longer want the action. Apologies for making a mess of this. Thought I'd try a different type of sell for such a high variance pack but done myself over in the process. Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 11, 2015, 04:28:01 PM Any Updates ?
Title: Re: temp0r2k SCOOP Package. Offering 90/10 profit chop after stakeback Post by: temp0r on May 12, 2015, 02:10:26 PM Will keep you updated on PMs Fraser. :)
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