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Title: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on June 27, 2015, 12:40:56 AM
Draws are here:

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/draws/ls/lsdraw.pdf

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/draws/ms/msdraw.pdf


Women's seeds:

There has been an extra week of grass court tournaments this year in the build up to Wimbledon. Sharapova and Serena Williams haven't played any of the tournaments. With no form to go on, it's still difficult to back against either of these two. Serena's health and emotional stability would seem to be the only things stopping her winning at a canter.

Caroline Wozniacki withdrew from the semi-final at Eastbourne today with a back injury. She doesn't give up easily (she is renowned for playing through injuries) and her game is based on her physical ability so I think she can be discounted.

Kvitova and Kerber both dropped out of Eastbourne with viral complaints but I suspect that they will be absolutely fine for Wimbledon.

Simona Halep lost to Kristina Mladenovic in the QF at Birmingham and didn't play at Eastbourne. The TV commentators gave Mladenovic a lot of credit but it wasn't a good performance by Halep.

Agnieska Radwanska has found more enthusiasm for the game and should progress well. She has been playing consistently well apart from an odd performance at Nottingham in the semi-final against Monica Niculescu when she lost 5-7 6-4 6-0. She has reached the final at Eastbourne.

Ekaterina Makarova is a grass court player but she is in bad form - she got slaughtered by a very impressive Johanna Konta (ranked 146 but playing top 50) 6-2 6-4 at Eastbourne.
(I happen to have a very nice freeroll on Konta which has been hampered somewhat by her drawing Sharapova in the first round.  ;bigadz; ).

Lucie Safarova could do well but after a run of good form and reaching the final of the French Open but has only played one match since then. She lost to Dominika Cibulkova who had been out injured for several months.

Ana Ivanovic flatters to deceive.

Carla Suarez-Navarro is not a grass court specialist and is unlikely to progress far as she is scheduled to meet Mladenovic in round two and Azarenka in round three.

Karolina Pliskova has a big game with a great serve which should be ideal for grass. She looks a generous bet at 66/1 with SportingBet.
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/womens/winner

Sabine Lisicki has a very good draw and a game made for grass. Her form has been inconsistent but she generally rises to the occasion at Wimbledon.

Eugenie Bouchard is well below her form of last year. General opinion is that she has too many off-court distractions. She has also lost a significant amount of weight.
Even with her habit of playing well in Grand Slam events it's difficult to see her progressing far here. She retired against Bencic at Eastbourne.

Victoria Azarenka was making good progress after being out for a long time with injury. Sadly she withdrew during Birmingham with a foot injury. This may have been preventative rather than terminal so don't rule her out.

Madison Keys should do well on grass but lost her only game on grass this year at Eastbourne to Belinda Bencic 6-2, 6-2.

For the British interest:

Sadly, Laura Robson will lose in the first round to Rodina. She has not recovered sufficiently from her wrist injury.
Rodina can be backed to win 2-0 at 2.38 in several places:
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/womens/evgeniya-rodina-v-laura-robson/set-betting

Heather Watson is playing fairly well and has a first round match against Caroline Garcia who is in very poor form.
I'm a big fan of Garcia generally but Watson at 1.9 appeals.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/tennis/event?id=27476465

As mentioned above, Johanna Konta drew the short stick.

Naomi Broady is favourite against Mariana Duque-Marino (who may be allergic to grass) despite being ranked 197 against her opponent at 97.

Random other thoughts:

Sloane Stephens seems to be re-focused on tennis and has an excellent coach in Nick Saviano who suits her personality. It may be a bit too soon for her at Wimbledon but she will be climbing the rankings soon.



Oh, and apparently, some blokes will be playing in a tournament too.



All comments made above are purely my own and made under the influence of red wine. I'd welcome any feedback. I'm happy to venture a view on anything else in the women's tournament. (Being uninformed shouldn't stop me having an opinion).
Personally, I've backed half the field so I'm hoping to keep some interest into the second week. :)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2015, 02:11:31 AM

Oh, and apparently, some blokes will be playing in a tournament too.


I was wondering if they may get a mention.


;)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2015, 02:13:11 AM
Sadly, Laura Robson will lose in the first round to Rodina. She has not recovered sufficiently from her wrist injury.
Rodina can be backed to win 2-0 at 2.38 in several places:



On the face of it, that sounds like a decent bet.

Can I steal it & suggest it on Fred?

PS - If Tighty sees it, & agrees, just get on. Failing that, place a £20 bet off thread on my behalf, please.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2015, 02:33:18 AM


Eugenie seems reasonably fit to my untrained eye.

(http://static.theglobeandmail.ca/228/incoming/article16291220.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/Screen+Shot+2014-01-12+at+9.06.34+AM.png)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on June 27, 2015, 02:37:41 AM
Sadly, Laura Robson will lose in the first round to Rodina. She has not recovered sufficiently from her wrist injury.
Rodina can be backed to win 2-0 at 2.38 in several places:



On the face of it, that sounds like a decent bet.

Can I steal it & suggest it on Fred?

PS - If Tighty sees it, & agrees, just get on. Failing that, place a £20 bet off thread on my behalf, please.

Sadly now best price of 2.15 but still a decent bet. I'm pretty sure that this is odds-on. It will be void if Robson retires but I suspect that she will try to complete the match. Rodina is a no-nonsense total effort player. Unless her baby has kept her up all night she should coast this.
Feel free to recommend as you see fit.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2015, 02:47:28 AM
Sadly, Laura Robson will lose in the first round to Rodina. She has not recovered sufficiently from her wrist injury.
Rodina can be backed to win 2-0 at 2.38 in several places:



On the face of it, that sounds like a decent bet.

Can I steal it & suggest it on Fred?

PS - If Tighty sees it, & agrees, just get on. Failing that, place a £20 bet off thread on my behalf, please.

Sadly now best price of 2.15 but still a decent bet. I'm pretty sure that this is odds-on. It will be void if Robson retires but I suspect that she will try to complete the match. Rodina is a no-nonsense total effort player. Unless her baby has kept her up all night she should coast this.
Feel free to recommend as you see fit.

Thanks Vince.

;)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: superwomble on June 29, 2015, 10:27:06 AM
So it all starts today. Neal Ardley says he won't be pushing the players in pre-season training though.

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neal-ardley-vows-not-overload-9544652?

 ;whistle;


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Karabiner on June 29, 2015, 09:19:17 PM
I mentioned a while ago that I thought it would only be a matter of time before Claire Balding elbowed her way past Sue Barker to present Wimbledon on telly.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on June 29, 2015, 09:26:50 PM
I mentioned a while ago that I thought it would only be a matter of time before Claire Balding elbowed her way past Sue Barker to present Wimbledon on telly.

Ms. Barker has been hard at it since 11:30am. There's enough limelight to go around.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Karabiner on June 29, 2015, 09:37:29 PM
I mentioned a while ago that I thought it would only be a matter of time before Claire Balding elbowed her way past Sue Barker to present Wimbledon on telly.

Ms. Barker has been hard at it since 11:30am. There's enough limelight to go around.

My remark was actually aimed more or less at Monsieur End with whom I had this discussion a year or two back. He opined at that time that Ms. Balding was otherwise engaged and would stick to tennis on the radio so Ms. Barker was safe from her clutches on the telly at least.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: HutchGF on June 29, 2015, 10:28:38 PM
Safarova gave my account a little scare. Little less drama tomorrow please ladies.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Nico29 on June 30, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
Cheers mere for the straight set angle in robson game. V nice.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Omm on June 30, 2015, 07:16:15 PM
Sadly, Laura Robson will lose in the first round to Rodina. She has not recovered sufficiently from her wrist injury.
Rodina can be backed to win 2-0 at 2.38 in several places:



On the face of it, that sounds like a decent bet.

Can I steal it & suggest it on Fred?

PS - If Tighty sees it, & agrees, just get on. Failing that, place a £20 bet off thread on my behalf, please.

Sadly now best price of 2.15 but still a decent bet. I'm pretty sure that this is odds-on. It will be void if Robson retires but I suspect that she will try to complete the match. Rodina is a no-nonsense total effort player. Unless her baby has kept her up all night she should coast this.
Feel free to recommend as you see fit.

Thanks Vince.

;)

Thanks Mere, nice start to the comp.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on June 30, 2015, 07:33:41 PM
You're welcome.
Rather closer than I was expecting!


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Newportlad on June 30, 2015, 09:26:17 PM
Thanks Mere for the Robson bet.

Much appreciated.
 


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 12:16:29 AM
Draws are here:

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/draws/ls/lsdraw.pdf

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/draws/ms/msdraw.pdf


Women's seeds:

There has been an extra week of grass court tournaments this year in the build up to Wimbledon. Sharapova and Serena Williams haven't played any of the tournaments. With no form to go on, it's still difficult to back against either of these two. Serena's health and emotional stability would seem to be the only things stopping her winning at a canter.
Serena Williams has progressed through 3 rounds including an (obligatory) drama against Heather Watson. I wouldn't like to predict with total confidence how she will play against her sister in round 4 but I think that a comfortable victory is most likely.
Sharapova progresses comfortably but fails to impress me. Her serve will be the decisive factor and I suspect that she may not get as far as meeting Serena but, if she does, it will be a very comfortable win for Ms Williams.


Caroline Wozniacki withdrew from the semi-final at Eastbourne today with a back injury. She doesn't give up easily (she is renowned for playing through injuries) and her game is based on her physical ability so I think she can be discounted.
Ms Wozniacki is progressing but I still don't rate her chances and will be opposing her soon. I've not seen Giorgi play this Wimbledon yet but she might beat her. If not, I make Angelique Kerber a solid favourite to beat her in the next round.

Kvitova and Kerber both dropped out of Eastbourne with viral complaints but I suspect that they will be absolutely fine for Wimbledon.
Both are progressing very well and I think there's a good chance that they might meet in the semi-final.

Simona Halep lost to Kristina Mladenovic in the QF at Birmingham and didn't play at Eastbourne. The TV commentators gave Mladenovic a lot of credit but it wasn't a good performance by Halep.
Ms Halep lost disappointingly in the first round to journeywoman Jana Cepelova.

Agnieska Radwanska has found more enthusiasm for the game and should progress well. She has been playing consistently well apart from an odd performance at Nottingham in the semi-final against Monica Niculescu when she lost 5-7 6-4 6-0. She has reached the final at Eastbourne.
Ms Radwanska is, rightly, a big favourite to win her 3rd round match against Casey Dellacqua whom she has a 2-0 record against including a 6-4, 6-0 victory at last year's Wimbledon.

Ekaterina Makarova is a grass court player but she is in bad form - she got slaughtered by a very impressive Johanna Konta (ranked 146 but playing top 50) 6-2 6-4 at Eastbourne.
(I happen to have a very nice freeroll on Konta which has been hampered somewhat by her drawing Sharapova in the first round.  ;bigadz; ).
Number 8 seed Ms Makarova lost to Magdalena Rybarikova in the second round.

Lucie Safarova could do well but after a run of good form and reaching the final of the French Open but has only played one match since then. She lost to Dominika Cibulkova who had been out injured for several months.
Ms Safarova is through to round 4 and will meet the big hitting Coco Vandeweghe. The bookies seem to have it right at 1.67 for Safarova. She is much improved confidence-wise and is unlikely to be fazed by a, likely,  golden patch by Vandeweghe.

Ana Ivanovic flatters to deceive.
AS number 7 seed, she lost 6-3, 6-4 to Bethanie Mettak-Sands in round 2.

Carla Suarez-Navarro is not a grass court specialist and is unlikely to progress far as she is scheduled to meet Mladenovic in round two and Azarenka in round three.
As number 9 seed, she lost 6-2, 6-0 to Jelena Ostapenko in round 1.


Karolina Pliskova has a big game with a great serve which should be ideal for grass. She looks a generous bet at 66/1 with SportingBet.
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/womens/winner
Grrr. She lost 7-6, 6-4 to a very impressive Coco Vandeweghe in round 2. I must have got her confused with her indentical (although left-handed) twin who has made it through to the third round (but is likely to lose to Monica Niculescu).

Sabine Lisicki has a very good draw and a game made for grass. Her form has been inconsistent but she generally rises to the occasion at Wimbledon.
She is through to round 3 but is not playing well. In fact her odds have lengthened! Fingers crossed for her to beat Bacsinszky in round 3

Eugenie Bouchard is well below her form of last year. General opinion is that she has too many off-court distractions. She has also lost a significant amount of weight.
Even with her habit of playing well in Grand Slam events it's difficult to see her progressing far here. She retired against Bencic at Eastbourne.
Number 12 seed Bouchard lost 7-6, 6-4 to unknown Ying-Ying Duan in round one. She may well recover her skills but her ranking is going to plummet even further.

Victoria Azarenka was making good progress after being out for a long time with injury. Sadly she withdrew during Birmingham with a foot injury. This may have been preventative rather than terminal so don't rule her out.
Ms Azarenka will play, and should beat, the youngster Belinda Bencic in round 4. Bencic is making big strides with the help of Monica Hingis but should be out-matched by Azarenka.


Madison Keys should do well on grass but lost her only game on grass this year at Eastbourne to Belinda Bencic 6-2, 6-2.
Still a loose-cannon. She has progressed to round 3 but has an "easy" draw for the next two rounds. I'm a big fan and thought that her partnership with Lindsay Davenport was likely to be the key in her development but things are still unclear.



For the British interest:

Sadly, Laura Robson will lose in the first round to Rodina. She has not recovered sufficiently from her wrist injury.
Rodina can be backed to win 2-0 at 2.38 in several places:
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/womens/evgeniya-rodina-v-laura-robson/set-betting
Laura showed signs of significan progress but still lost 6-4, 6-4 to Evgenyia Rodina. It won't be long before Robson is winning matches.

Heather Watson is playing fairly well and has a first round match against Caroline Garcia who is in very poor form.
I'm a big fan of Garcia generally but Watson at 1.9 appeals.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/tennis/event?id=27476465
Ms Watson played extremely well and lost in an epic round 3 match to Serena Williams as I'm sure you are all aware.

As mentioned above, Johanna Konta drew the short stick.
Yup, she lost 6-2, 6-2 to Maria Sharapova but was better than the scoreline suggests (apologies for the cliche).

Naomi Broady is favourite against Mariana Duque-Marino (who may be allergic to grass) despite being ranked 197 against her opponent at 97.
Broady lost in the first round, sadly.

Random other thoughts:

Sloane Stephens seems to be re-focused on tennis and has an excellent coach in Nick Saviano who suits her personality. It may be a bit too soon for her at Wimbledon but she will be climbing the rankings soon.
Ms Stephens performed well but lost 3-6, 6-3, 6-1 to an impressive Lucie Safarova in round 3.


Oh, and apparently, some blokes will be playing in a tournament too.
I believe that the "big names" are still playing (apart from Rafael Nadal).



All comments made above are purely my own and made under the influence of red wine. I'd welcome any feedback. I'm happy to venture a view on anything else in the women's tournament. (Being uninformed shouldn't stop me having an opinion).
I'm still happy to comment on anything relating to the women's tournament.
Personally, I've backed half the field so I'm hoping to keep some interest into the second week. :)

A re-cap on my thoughts.
Added comments above are in red.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: tikay on July 04, 2015, 12:31:26 AM


Identical twins, one plays left-handed & one right-handed?

How very odd, especially at that skill level.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 12:41:38 AM


Identical twins, one plays left-handed & one right-handed?

How very odd, especially at that skill level.


Apparently, each one is even more identical than the other.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 12:49:39 AM


Identical twins, one plays left-handed & one right-handed?

How very odd, especially at that skill level.

Slightly odder is that the right-hander (Karolnia) made huge strides (currently ranked 11) and her twin (Krystina) is ranked 134.
It is generally considered a big advantage to be a "leftie".


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 12:53:28 AM


Identical twins, one plays left-handed & one right-handed?

How very odd, especially at that skill level.


Apparently, each one is even more identical than the other.

They have tattoos on different arms too apparently.

Good to see you chipping in Tom; do you have any particular fancies?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: tikay on July 04, 2015, 12:56:44 AM


Like 2 peas in a pod.


(https://tennisandco.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/pliskova_twins_li_ning_smile_doubles_tennis1.jpg)



This helps though.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRE2g5ayGrRqxiaceQO0O4txWT7Oiu90nM7sgnhwhDk6y7fkQ7g)



Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: tikay on July 04, 2015, 12:59:31 AM

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/26/article-2164698-13C7FE7C000005DC-930_306x390.jpg)



Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 01:12:38 AM


Identical twins, one plays left-handed & one right-handed?

How very odd, especially at that skill level.


Apparently, each one is even more identical than the other.

They have tattoos on different arms too apparently.

Good to see you chipping in Tom; do you have any particular fancies?


Oh God I love the tennis Mere.

Back in the day when I was working 50+ hours a week, it used to do my head in that there was no play of the middle Sunday because it was the only day I got a chance to watch it.

I was really rooting for Raonic to beat Kyrgios. I like can't be doing with people who belittle those they deem less important than themselves.

What a thrill Heather gave us today. I almost died with excitement.

Could there be a more breathtaking sport? Each match is like watching a two or three hour penalty shoot out.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 01:23:07 AM


Identical twins, one plays left-handed & one right-handed?

How very odd, especially at that skill level.


Apparently, each one is even more identical than the other.

They have tattoos on different arms too apparently.

Good to see you chipping in Tom; do you have any particular fancies?


Oh God I love the tennis Mere.

Back in the day when I was working 50+ hours a week, it used to do my head in that there was no play of the middle Sunday because it was the only day I got a chance to watch it.

I was really rooting for Raonic to beat Kyrgios. I like can't be doing with people who belittle those they deem less important than themselves.

What a thrill Heather gave us today. I almost died with excitement.

Could there be a more breathtaking sport? Each match is like watching a two or three hour penalty shoot out.

Me too.

I don't follow the men's game but agree 110% with you on when you say "I like can't be doing with people who belittle those they deem less important than themselves.".

I also like that the volume level on the BBCi site for the tennis goes all the way up to 11. :)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 01:28:05 AM


Identical twins, one plays left-handed & one right-handed?

How very odd, especially at that skill level.


Apparently, each one is even more identical than the other.

They have tattoos on different arms too apparently.

Good to see you chipping in Tom; do you have any particular fancies?


Oh God I love the tennis Mere.

Back in the day when I was working 50+ hours a week, it used to do my head in that there was no play of the middle Sunday because it was the only day I got a chance to watch it.

I was really rooting for Raonic to beat Kyrgios. I like can't be doing with people who belittle those they deem less important than themselves.

What a thrill Heather gave us today. I almost died with excitement.

Could there be a more breathtaking sport? Each match is like watching a two or three hour penalty shoot out.

Me too.

I don't follow the men's game but agree 110% with you on when you say "I like can't be doing with people who belittle those they deem less important than themselves.".

I also like that the volume level on the BBCi site for the tennis goes all the way up to 11. :)


I don't know how the word "like' got into my sentence. It must be a throwback from my beatnik days. I didn't even notice until you quoted it.

Peace man.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 01:34:59 AM
I like peace. :)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 01:39:02 AM
I like peace. :)

So how come you wear a Dennis the Menace t shirt?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 01:46:30 AM
I like peace. :)

So how come you wear a Dennis the Menace t shirt?

You need to provide photo evidence or I may sue.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 01:49:56 AM
I like peace. :)

So how come you wear a Dennis the Menace t shirt?

You need to provide photo evidence or I may sue.




Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 01:51:32 AM
I like peace. :)

So how come you wear a Dennis the Menace t shirt?

You need to provide photo evidence or I may sue.

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/randomicity/images/8/8c/Dennis_the_Menace.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120903162141)

Totally different.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 01:53:30 AM
I like peace. :)

So how come you wear a Dennis the Menace t shirt?

You need to provide photo evidence or I may sue.

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/randomicity/images/8/8c/Dennis_the_Menace.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120903162141)

Totally different.


Hairstyle is different. T shirt is the same.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Karabiner on July 04, 2015, 01:56:23 AM
I have the hair :)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:02:06 AM
I have the hair :)

I'm beginning to think it's a syrup Ralph.

I bet you have several that get incrementally longer. You start with the shortest and put a longer one on every week until you get to the longest, then you go to the barber, bung him a flag to keep schtum and then walk out wearing the short one again.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 02:05:03 AM
I have the hair :)

I have never had the "hair".


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 02:08:00 AM
I have the hair :)

I'm beginning to think it's a syrup Ralph.

I bet you have several that get incrementally longer. You start with the shortest and put a longer one on every week until you get to the longest, then you go to the barber, bung him a flag to keep schtum and then walk out wearing the short one again.

How much is a "flag"?
I've never considered those tactics but, if sufficiently cheap, it would be foolish to rule it out.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Karabiner on July 04, 2015, 02:16:57 AM
I have the hair :)

I'm beginning to think it's a syrup Ralph.

I bet you have several that get incrementally longer. You start with the shortest and put a longer one on every week until you get to the longest, then you go to the barber, bung him a flag to keep schtum and then walk out wearing the short one again.

Oddly enough about twenty years ago two guys had a bet about whether my hair was a syrup or not, this was in the old Stakis/Gala/Grosvenor in Nottingham.

They insisted on one of them actually pulling my hair to see if it came loose to settle the bet. I've also been accused of having a perm. and dyeing my barnet.

I mean can you imagine a man of my years dyeing his hair?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:20:59 AM


How much is a "flag"?



A Lady Godiva.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:23:09 AM
I have the hair :)

I'm beginning to think it's a syrup Ralph.

I bet you have several that get incrementally longer. You start with the shortest and put a longer one on every week until you get to the longest, then you go to the barber, bung him a flag to keep schtum and then walk out wearing the short one again.

Oddly enough about twenty years ago two guys had a bet about whether my hair was a syrup or not, this was in the old Stakis/Gala/Grosvenor in Nottingham.

They insisted on one of them actually pulling my hair to see if it came loose to settle the bet. I've also been accused of having a perm. and dyeing my barnet.

I mean can you imagine a man of my years dyeing his hair?


I've decided he's a natural blonde who dyes his eyebrows black.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:24:32 AM
Shut up now Ralph. You're turning Mere's excellent thread into a farce.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 04:42:54 AM
Shut up now Ralph. You're turning Mere's excellent thread into a farce.

Quite so.

Actually, as I'm sure you are aware, I'm pleased to get any feedback at all.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: stumpythefish on July 04, 2015, 11:34:12 AM
Great write up and made a few £££ thx


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Shut up now Ralph. You're turning Mere's excellent thread into a farce.

Quite so.

Actually, as I'm sure you are aware, I'm pleased to get any feedback at all.


Mere, let me put decorum and convention aside for a moment and admit publicly that I love you.

Your second ever post sealed the deal for me. I love self depreciation, perhaps that's because I'm personally so bad at it. (One there for the purists)

Thankyou.

It's not even a great picture of me ;)

(Actually there are no great pictures of me).

I read all your stuff but it's usually so far above my head that I find it difficult to make a serious contribution.

I wish I knew more about you though. For instance, have you always been so organised?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 01:49:35 PM
Why do they introduce the freeloading sportspeople, who have loads of cash anyway, on Centre Court, and expect them all to be applauded?

They all get a free day ffs.

Applaud those that have paid for them to have a freebie!!


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:06:01 PM
Why do they introduce the freeloading sportspeople, who have loads of cash anyway, on Centre Court, and expect them all to be applauded?

They all get a free day ffs.

Applaud those that have paid for them to have a freebie!!


Isn't that one of the rewards for all the hard work they've put in. all the hours spent training while we were watching telly or tucked up in bed?

I don't understand this culture of begrudging and knocking success. They've paid, but they paid in sweat and determination.

If they are freeloaders why aren't we all doing it?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:12:20 PM
That sounded a bit confrontational. It wasn't meant to.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
You miss my point Tom.


Never been to the golf and stood around applauding people who have been given a freebie.

Nor the Footy

Nor the racing- bar Royal Ascot

I could go on.


Why Tennis?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:14:22 PM
You miss my point Tom.


Never been to the golf and stood around applauding people who have been given a freebie.

Nor the Footy

Nor the racing- bar Royal Ascot

I could go on.


Why Tennis?


Why not?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 02:21:34 PM
 ;marks;


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:26:56 PM
;marks;





Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 04, 2015, 02:37:58 PM
Anyway Mr Mere, why only ladies tennis? (Apart from the obvious thrill of the super slow-motion replays)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 07:30:18 PM
Shut up now Ralph. You're turning Mere's excellent thread into a farce.

Quite so.

Actually, as I'm sure you are aware, I'm pleased to get any feedback at all.


Mere, let me put decorum and convention aside for a moment and admit publicly that I love you.

Your second ever post sealed the deal for me. I love self depreciation, perhaps that's because I'm personally so bad at it. (One there for the purists)

Thankyou.

It's not even a great picture of me ;)

(Actually there are no great pictures of me).

I read all your stuff but it's usually so far above my head that I find it difficult to make a serious contribution.

I wish I knew more about you though. For instance, have you always been so organised?

Wow, thank you Tom.

That's very flattering. The feeling is mutual.

You obviously have a very good memory; I have no recollection of that post.


With regard to my being organised, anyone that I have ever worked with would laugh out loud if they read that. Successive bosses have tried (and failed) to improve my organisational and time-keeping skills. I fear that the strain of the fruitless challenge has sent some to an early retirement.


Apologies for the delay in replying; I was having a problem trying to find my laptop. :)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 04, 2015, 07:31:08 PM
Anyway Mr Mere, why only ladies tennis? (Apart from the obvious thrill of the super slow-motion replays)

I just find ladies to be nicer, in so many ways.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: tikay on July 04, 2015, 07:33:50 PM
Anyway Mr Mere, why only ladies tennis? (Apart from the obvious thrill of the super slow-motion replays)

I just find ladies to be nicer, in so many ways.

The trade term is, I believe, fit for purpose.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 06, 2015, 03:36:23 PM
Player serves.

Return whooshes past the server for a clean winner.

Can the server challenge that he thought his serve was out?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 06, 2015, 03:50:59 PM
Player serves.

Return whooshes past the server for a clean winner.

Can the server challenge that he thought his serve was out?

Yes, I've seen it done several times.

In theory, it shouldn't be allowed since the challenge should be in a "timely manner" but that is rarely enforced. I've often seen players have a discussion with their coach before challenging.
Harrumph.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Kmac84 on July 07, 2015, 10:36:32 AM
Any love for Coco v Sharapova today? 


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2015, 12:40:46 PM
i don't know myself

but i thought thias was a well written piece on Coco today

http://welovebetting.co.uk/2015/07/wimbledon-tips-7th-july-2015-bbc/


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Kmac84 on July 07, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
i don't know myself

but i thought thias was a well written piece on Coco today

http://welovebetting.co.uk/2015/07/wimbledon-tips-7th-july-2015-bbc/

I don't really know enough about Tennis to understand the value angles, but I can't help but think this is a certain match to go over the game totals I fully expect Coco to take at least one set. 


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 02:51:40 PM
Feck me, Becker looks rough.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 04:44:59 PM
Sharapova is such a squealing ho.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 04:47:40 PM
Coco breaks back against Sharasquealer.

I hope she wins.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 04:51:37 PM
Sigh...

Squealypova breaks again.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 04:53:49 PM
Mrs Red- You're doing more squealing watching it than she is playing it.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Kmac84 on July 07, 2015, 04:58:52 PM
Sharapova is such a squealing ho.

Its a part of the womans game I really dislike, I'd serve then penalties for this sort of shit. 


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Doobs on July 07, 2015, 05:03:54 PM
Sharapova is such a squealing ho.

ho? 


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 05:04:04 PM
Great match though.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 05:04:39 PM
Sharapova is such a squealing ho.

ho? 

Isn't that what she's saying?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: AndrewT on July 07, 2015, 05:25:17 PM
Sharapova is such a squealing ho.

ho? 

Isn't that what she's saying?

She's calling for her shoes dealer to come to the court.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2015, 05:57:34 PM
each time Azarenka hits a shots its like a granny has seen a ghost

"Wooooooooooo"



not sure you can do anything about the racket they make but it is certainly distracting!


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Knottikay on July 07, 2015, 06:09:31 PM
each time Azarenka hits a shots its like a granny has seen a ghost

"Wooooooooooo"



not sure you can do anything about the racket they make but it is certainly distracting!

Quite a new invention, but have you tried the 'mute' button. It should be on that thing which helps you switch channels. YW.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 06:25:59 PM
Blimey! I wouldn't like to get my finger trapped between Serena's butt cheeks.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 06:57:44 PM
each time Azarenka hits a shots its like a granny has seen a ghost

"Wooooooooooo"



She sounds like Dr Zoidberg.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6JHaBVySTA




Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Marky147 on July 07, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
Blimey! I wouldn't like to get my finger trapped between Serena's butt cheeks.

I'm sure there are worse places to get it trapped  :D


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 07:36:41 PM
Blimey! I wouldn't like to get my finger trapped between Serena's butt cheeks.

I'm sure there are worse places to get it trapped  :D


Please don't lower the tone of Mere's thread.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: AndrewT on July 07, 2015, 07:41:59 PM
Blimey! I wouldn't like to get my finger trapped between Serena's butt cheeks.

Though the explanation to Mrs Red if you got caught would be worth hearing.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 07, 2015, 07:47:15 PM
Blimey! I wouldn't like to get my finger trapped between Serena's butt cheeks.

Though the explanation to Mrs Red if you got caught would be worth hearing.


I could have been helping her to climb on to the back of a lorry.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Karabiner on July 07, 2015, 08:37:56 PM
Blimey! I wouldn't like to get my finger trapped between Serena's butt cheeks.

Though the explanation to Mrs Red if you got caught would be worth hearing.


I could have been helping her to climb on to the back of a lorry.

Or maybe a pick-up truck.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: hector62 on July 08, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
With too much female bias in this thread I think a male tip is in order. I think that if Gasquet plays like he did against Kyriagos then he will beat Wawrinka today.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 08, 2015, 08:57:32 PM
With too much female bias in this thread I think a male tip is in order. I think that if Gasquet plays like he did against Kyriagos then he will beat Wawrinka today.

Good one.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Ironside on July 09, 2015, 03:54:55 AM
keep an eye out for the odds on mens doubles when the bookies put them up tomorrow (only pie in the ... listing them just now)

i think murray/peters should be closer to 3.0 than the 3.25 they are listed at they have the easier semi (if you can have an easy semi)

and the final will be close to even money no matter who they play if they win semi as the brothers bryan are out


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: stumpythefish on July 09, 2015, 12:08:10 PM
Any thoughts on semis? Bookies have it as a flip do you have any pref between mug v rag?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 09, 2015, 12:12:32 PM
Any thoughts on semis? Bookies have it as a flip do you have any pref between mug v rag?


I dunno.

My mam used to say "There's many a slip twix cup and lip.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 09, 2015, 12:47:33 PM
Any thoughts on semis? Bookies have it as a flip do you have any pref between mug v rag?

Muguruza was a small favourite yesterday but, as you say, they are pretty much level now.
I have a slight preference for Radwanska but not enough to risk much.

The market that I was most interested in was the number of aces.
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/womens/garbine-muguruza-v-agnieszka-radwanska/most-aces

Radwanska is 13/8 with SkyBet (was 7/4 earlier this morning :) ).  A tie means you get your money back.

There really isn't much between them despite Muguruza being the heavier hitter.

Muguruza

Round  Aces   Serves
QF   0   75
R4   4   73
R3   7   136
R2   6   78
R1   4   52
      
Totals   21   414   (1 ace per 19.71 serves)

Radwanka

Round  Aces   Serves      
QF   1   97
R4   3   67
R3   4   55
R2   4   41
R1   3   55
      
Total   15   315  (1 ace per 21 serves)

The additional factor that sways it for me is that Radwanska would be more likely to get her racquet on the serve when returning.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: BigAdz on July 09, 2015, 12:57:32 PM
Any thoughts on semis? Bookies have it as a flip do you have any pref between mug v rag?


I dunno.

My mam used to say "There's many a slip twix cup and lip.


She liked her dunkin her Twix's then?

Maybe she should have held it tighter.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 09, 2015, 12:59:20 PM
Any thoughts on semis? Bookies have it as a flip do you have any pref between mug v rag?


I dunno.

My mam used to say "There's many a slip twix cup and lip.


She liked her dunkin her Twix's then?

Maybe she should have held it tighter.


There was only one of her.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: stumpythefish on July 09, 2015, 01:26:09 PM
Thx for the feedback mere I'm on

The twix has never tasted the same since they split into 2 factories



Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 09, 2015, 02:38:08 PM
Why does Radwanska have her initial displayed on the score board and Muguruza doesn't?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: craigbetts on July 09, 2015, 02:45:41 PM
Why does Radwanka have her initial displayed on the score board and Muguruza doesn't?

http://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/12364/title/urszula-radwanska

Mere knows!


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 09, 2015, 02:49:49 PM
Why does Radwanka have her initial displayed on the score board and Muguruza doesn't?

http://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/12364/title/urszula-radwanska

Mere knows!


Well I can't find anything about Mere in that link.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Jamier-Host on July 09, 2015, 04:16:38 PM
Anyone see that stat they just showed on BBC about Sharapova ball toss range 2004 v 2015? Amazing.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 09, 2015, 04:20:27 PM
Anyone see that stat they just showed on BBC about Sharapova ball toss range 2004 v 2015? Amazing.

Yep. I thought so too.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 09, 2015, 04:25:59 PM
Anyone see that stat they just showed on BBC about Sharapova ball toss range 2004 v 2015? Amazing.

What did it say/prove?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Doobs on July 09, 2015, 04:27:45 PM
I was more interested in Martina Navratilova.  I am glad they had her name up or not sure I'd have recognised her.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 09, 2015, 04:33:17 PM
I was more interested in Martina Navratilova.  I am glad they had her name up or not sure I'd have recognised her.

I know. She's had more work than that VW camper on Wheeler Dealers.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 09, 2015, 04:43:04 PM
Thx for the feedback mere I'm on

The twix has never tasted the same since they split into 2 factories



Apologies. That was awful.
Radwanska served the first ace but Muguruza served the next six.
I couldn't have been more wrong.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 09, 2015, 04:46:05 PM
Why does Radwanka have her initial displayed on the score board and Muguruza doesn't?

http://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/12364/title/urszula-radwanska

Mere knows!


Well I can't find anything about Mere in that link.

The player playing today was Agnieska Radwanska. The link is to Urszula Radwanska.
Mr Betts was telling you that they are sisters. That's why Ms Radwanska had her initial displayed.

"Interesting" fact: three sets of sisters made the second round of Wimbledon this year.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Jamier-Host on July 09, 2015, 04:48:20 PM
Anyone see that stat they just showed on BBC about Sharapova ball toss range 2004 v 2015? Amazing.

What did it say/prove?

It showed that they used to be in a pretty tight group (within something like 40cm width) but now 90cm+. So she's lost consistency and is having to adjust during the serve making it more erratic generally.

They claimed, although didn't show graphical stats, that top players like Serena or Federer are rigidly consistent meaning unreadable and more consistent for them to hit accurately.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 09, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
Why does Radwanka have her initial displayed on the score board and Muguruza doesn't?

http://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/12364/title/urszula-radwanska

Mere knows!


Well I can't find anything about Mere in that link.

The player playing today was Agnieska Radwanska. The link is to Urszula Radwanska.
Mr Betts was telling you that they are sisters. That's why Ms Radwanska had her initial displayed.

"Interesting" fact: three sets of sisters made the second round of Wimbledon this year.

Oh I see...

Thank you.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: stumpythefish on July 09, 2015, 08:13:02 PM
Thx for the feedback mere I'm on

The twix has never tasted the same since they split into 2 factories



Apologies. That was awful.
Radwanska served the first ace but Muguruza served the next six.
I couldn't have been more wrong.

no problem I don't usually bet on tennis but ive been able to watch it and won quite abit and really enjoyed it thx again


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: hector62 on July 09, 2015, 10:59:13 PM
In the semi's tomorrow I think Djokovic will win but the 8's or better for Gasquet warrants a small interest.

In the other match I will be having a bigger bet on Federer to beat the angry Scot at evens.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Ironside on July 10, 2015, 12:45:06 AM
can anyone find odds for the mens doubles final ?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Doobs on July 10, 2015, 12:54:45 AM
can anyone find odds for the mens doubles final ?

you can find them on betfair exchange under mens tournament/doubles or similar


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Ironside on July 10, 2015, 12:59:32 AM
can anyone find odds for the mens doubles final ?

you can find them on betfair exchange under mens tournament/doubles or similar

thanks betfair is only place i have seen it oddschecker doesnt have it listed

betfair market hasnt formed properly yet but cant believe how big a favourite rojer/tecau are over murray/peers

even without the market being formed proper i think there is still value on murray/peers


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MereNovice on July 10, 2015, 03:16:37 AM
can anyone find odds for the mens doubles final ?

you can find them on betfair exchange under mens tournament/doubles or similar

thanks betfair is only place i have seen it oddschecker doesnt have it listed

betfair market hasnt formed properly yet but cant believe how big a favourite rojer/tecau are over murray/peers

even without the market being formed proper i think there is still value on murray/peers

http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/doubles/jean-julien-rojer-horia-tecau-v-jamie-murray-john-peers/winner


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 10, 2015, 02:00:34 PM
.YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVQdm2_e17E


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The_nun on July 10, 2015, 02:04:38 PM
Andy Murray is to be disqualified from Wimbledon due to him keeping an old man in his tennis bag!


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Ironside on July 10, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Thanks mere


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: JohnCharver on July 10, 2015, 02:30:04 PM
Mr T is holding novaks brolly


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Nico29 on July 10, 2015, 04:21:48 PM
Andy Murray is to be disqualified from Wimbledon due to him keeping an old man in his tennis bag!

Brilliant! Sharing this on fb. Poor old fella!


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: RED-DOG on July 10, 2015, 07:10:57 PM
So, will it be Federedera or Djockayokavich?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Tal on July 10, 2015, 07:58:20 PM
The Federer backhand must be one of the most beautiful things in sport.

There's probably a thread in that, actually.



Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Ironside on July 10, 2015, 08:43:45 PM
that federer performance has to be one of the best performances in a while by any player
if he plays like that on sunday novak will be in trouble


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: hector62 on July 11, 2015, 06:58:36 PM
Anyone looking for a bet in tomorrow's final should back Federer at a shade of odds against. Both players are in better form than last year, when I thought Federer should have won, but Federer's performance against Murray on Friday was sensational. I am not as confident as I was that Gasquet would beat Wawrinka, or that Federer would beat Murray, so don't give all your profit back on this one.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 12, 2015, 01:11:13 AM
Anyone looking for a bet in tomorrow's final should back Federer at a shade of odds against. Both players are in better form than last year, when I thought Federer should have won, but Federer's performance against Murray on Friday was sensational. I am not as confident as I was that Gasquet would beat Wawrinka, or that Federer would beat Murray, so don't give all your profit back on this one.

I am not having a pop Hector, but why on earth would you think the odds were wrong?

The whole world has seen Federer is playing beautifully and Novak might be slightly below his best.

But that is reflected by the odds. If bookmakers had been asked to price up a potential Fed v Djoko final before the tournament started it would have been 1/2 v 2/1 or 4/7 v 7/4.

The fact that Fed is is on fire means he's 11/10 not 15/8

I totally accept the odds on the world 100 v the world 120 in the first round of the Timbuktu Open might be wrong, but Federer v Djokovich in the Wimbledon final? Near enough impossible.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: MintTrav on July 12, 2015, 01:35:53 AM
Looks like no-one has noticed, but the greatest and sexiest women's player ever notched up another Wimbledon title today.

Just thought I'd mention it, as everyone seems to have missed it.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03372/Swilliams_3372298b.jpg)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 12, 2015, 01:39:19 AM
Looks like no-one has noticed, but the greatest and sexiest women's player ever notched up another Wimbledon title today.

Just thought I'd mention it, as everyone seems to have missed it.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03372/Swilliams_3372298b.jpg)

She's very needy for a 20 time grand slam winner.

Why would anyone with her talent and record of success get so nervous and need reassuring by her huge entourage all the damn time?

She behaves like a 17 year old playing her first year on tour not the 33 year old most successful player ever.



Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Woodsey on July 12, 2015, 01:40:38 AM
Looks like no-one has noticed, but the greatest and sexiest women's player ever notched up another Wimbledon title today.

Just thought I'd mention it, as everyone seems to have missed it.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03372/Swilliams_3372298b.jpg)

Sexiest wtf?  rotflmfao


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Marky147 on July 12, 2015, 01:44:28 AM
I'm with you, MintTrav  :)up

Didn't really come across as all that needy, just superstitious :D

Don't know that much about her, but have never heard anything bad, and thought she came across well enough.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Marky147 on July 12, 2015, 01:46:13 AM
Looks like no-one has noticed, but the greatest and sexiest women's player ever notched up another Wimbledon title today.

Just thought I'd mention it, as everyone seems to have missed it.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03372/Swilliams_3372298b.jpg)

Sexiest wtf?  rotflmfao

Who is your sexiest, Woodsey?

Michael Chang?

;D


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Woodsey on July 12, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
Looks like no-one has noticed, but the greatest and sexiest women's player ever notched up another Wimbledon title today.

Just thought I'd mention it, as everyone seems to have missed it.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03372/Swilliams_3372298b.jpg)

Sexiest wtf?  rotflmfao

Who is your sexiest, Woodsey?

Michael Chang?

;D

There's better blokes in skirts in that part of the world than Serena, that's for sure!  rotflmfao


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 12, 2015, 01:51:38 AM
I'm with you, MintTrav  :)up

Didn't really come across as all that needy, just superstitious :D

Don't know that much about her, but have never heard anything bad, and thought she came across well enough.

I'm talking about during her play. She looked like a bag of nerves for much of the match today. She kept having to look to her coach/sister/mother and whoever else to reassure her that she'll be ok.

You'd think having been in this spot so many times, she'd have absolute and supreme confidence.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2015, 01:54:51 AM
Can fed actually go off fav tomorrow?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Marky147 on July 12, 2015, 01:59:05 AM
I'm with you, MintTrav  :)up

Didn't really come across as all that needy, just superstitious :D

Don't know that much about her, but have never heard anything bad, and thought she came across well enough.

I'm talking about during her play. She looked like a bag of nerves for much of the match today. She kept having to look to her coach/sister/mother and whoever else to reassure her that she'll be ok.

You'd think having been in this spot so many times, she'd have absolute and supreme confidence.

Time kicking on, she's chasing Steffi Graf, and obv wanted to do the 'Serena Slam', whatever that is.

She's been giving the BBC staff 'No, No, No' everytime they tried to mention it through the tournament.

Didn't notice that she did anything different from most of the other players. Apart from win :)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 12, 2015, 02:07:51 AM
I'm with you, MintTrav  :)up

Didn't really come across as all that needy, just superstitious :D

Don't know that much about her, but have never heard anything bad, and thought she came across well enough.

I'm talking about during her play. She looked like a bag of nerves for much of the match today. She kept having to look to her coach/sister/mother and whoever else to reassure her that she'll be ok.

You'd think having been in this spot so many times, she'd have absolute and supreme confidence.

Time kicking on, she's chasing Steffi Graf, and obv wanted to do the 'Serena Slam', whatever that is.

She's been giving the BBC staff 'No, No, No' everytime they tried to mention it through the tournament.

Didn't notice that she did anything different from most of the other players. Apart from win :)

The difference is she's in her mid 30s and won 20 grand slams.

He opponent was 21 and in her first grand slam final. She had every reason to be nervous.

I don't remember Steffi, Martina, Chrissy or Henin needing such reassurance.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Tal on July 12, 2015, 02:15:30 AM
I don't think there's a sportsperson I dislike more and funk against more than her (maybe even including John Terry). She might well be a lovely person IRL, but I'm always cheering on the opponent.

One for the irrational dislike thread, I suppose.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Marky147 on July 12, 2015, 02:18:16 AM
LOL, Tal ;D

Definitely.

Similar to my funking against Hendry back in the day, for no other reason than I was a White fanboy.



I'm with you, MintTrav  :)up

Didn't really come across as all that needy, just superstitious :D

Don't know that much about her, but have never heard anything bad, and thought she came across well enough.

I'm talking about during her play. She looked like a bag of nerves for much of the match today. She kept having to look to her coach/sister/mother and whoever else to reassure her that she'll be ok.

You'd think having been in this spot so many times, she'd have absolute and supreme confidence.

Time kicking on, she's chasing Steffi Graf, and obv wanted to do the 'Serena Slam', whatever that is.

She's been giving the BBC staff 'No, No, No' everytime they tried to mention it through the tournament.

Didn't notice that she did anything different from most of the other players. Apart from win :)

The difference is she's in her mid 30s and won 20 grand slams.

He opponent was 21 and in her first grand slam final. She had every reason to be nervous.

I don't remember Steffi, Martina, Chrissy or Henin needing such reassurance.

As I said, feeling the pressure of being so close, maybe.

Only she knows, we can but speculate.



Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 12, 2015, 02:22:33 AM
I don't think there's a sportsperson I dislike more and funk against more than her (maybe even including John Terry). She might well be a lovely person IRL, but I'm always cheering on the opponent.

One for the irrational dislike thread, I suppose.

She is like a female Richard Kraijcek.

Only better.

Her matches are extremely boring. She overpowers the opponents but has very little finesse.

And she is such a sore loser. Her behaviour when she lost to Sloane Stephens in Sydney was outrageous. She acts like a spoilt 12 year old.

So not irrational at all. :)


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2015, 01:01:46 PM
Quite incredible Fed is nearly fav.  Big over reaction to him destroying Murray's second serve and serving like a god himself.  Big ask to do the same against the greatest in the world for me.  Would love to see him win apart from financial reasons but i just can't have this as a 50/50 game.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: DungBeetle on July 12, 2015, 01:09:05 PM
Quite - I'm not sure I've ever seem one performance skew the odds so much.  That said - I'd still love him to win but the value is surely with Djokovic.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2015, 02:14:29 PM
Arod needs some serious lessons on dressing himself from Henman.  Can't believe Timmy (the best dressed man on TV) didn't take him to his local tailor to get kitted out for the week.  All week Arod has looked like he just got out of bed.  His tie knot today is awful and his shirt doesn't fit him.  You can take the boy out of Nebraska......


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2015, 02:19:55 PM
Arod needs some serious lessons on dressing himself from Henman.  Can't believe Timmy (the best dressed man on TV) didn't take him to his local tailor to get kitted out for the week.  All week Arod has looked like he just got out of bed.  His tie knot today is awful and his shirt doesn't fit him.  You can take the boy out of Nebraska......

what a pundit though

fantastic insights compared to most of them


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2015, 02:23:33 PM
Arod needs some serious lessons on dressing himself from Henman.  Can't believe Timmy (the best dressed man on TV) didn't take him to his local tailor to get kitted out for the week.  All week Arod has looked like he just got out of bed.  His tie knot today is awful and his shirt doesn't fit him.  You can take the boy out of Nebraska......

what a pundit though

fantastic insights compared to most of them

Oh definitely.  He is great.  Very honest and funny.  BBC need a serious clear out of their team for me.  Castle, Barker, Lloyd and the most tilting of all, Gary Richardson the interviewer.  How tilting is he seriously?  How hasn't he been fired years ago?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2015, 02:26:07 PM
worse than all those (and castle in particular is like long nails on a blackboard)

john inverdale on front line commentary

just no


oh and that evening round up programme with balding. what a horrible format


give me roddick, mcenroe and revamp the rest. henman is ok i suppose


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2015, 02:30:26 PM
worse than all those (and castle in particular is like long nails on a blackboard)

john inverdale on front line commentary

just no


oh and that evening round up programme with balding. what a horrible format


give me roddick, mcenroe and revamp the rest. henman is ok i suppose

Becker is a big miss as well for me.  Inverdale is just an old school racist/sexist gag away from being fired.  I thought a couple of times this week he was about to drop himself in it again but seemed to bluff his way out of a hole he was digging for himself.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Marky147 on July 12, 2015, 02:32:49 PM
I never normally watch much of it, because I'm in Vegas.

This year I've watched most days, and didn't even know who Roddick was at first :D

Definitely enjoy listening to McEnroe, and was actually surprised at how well Henman/Roddick worked together.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Karabiner on July 12, 2015, 02:51:10 PM
I hope that Castle's opening three minute monologue is not going to be the order of the afternoon.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 12, 2015, 05:10:23 PM
Anyone looking for a bet in tomorrow's final should back Federer at a shade of odds against. Both players are in better form than last year, when I thought Federer should have won, but Federer's performance against Murray on Friday was sensational. I am not as confident as I was that Gasquet would beat Wawrinka, or that Federer would beat Murray, so don't give all your profit back on this one.

I am not having a pop Hector, but why on earth would you think the odds were wrong?

The whole world has seen Federer is playing beautifully and Novak might be slightly below his best.

But that is reflected by the odds. If bookmakers had been asked to price up a potential Fed v Djoko final before the tournament started it would have been 1/2 v 2/1 or 4/7 v 7/4.

The fact that Fed is is on fire means he's 11/10 not 15/8

I totally accept the odds on the world 100 v the world 120 in the first round of the Timbuktu Open might be wrong, but Federer v Djokovich in the Wimbledon final? Near enough impossible.

Hector freerolling me obviously. Will only reply if Federer wins :)

WP sir.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2015, 05:42:45 PM
Anyone looking for a bet in tomorrow's final should back Federer at a shade of odds against. Both players are in better form than last year, when I thought Federer should have won, but Federer's performance against Murray on Friday was sensational. I am not as confident as I was that Gasquet would beat Wawrinka, or that Federer would beat Murray, so don't give all your profit back on this one.

I am not having a pop Hector, but why on earth would you think the odds were wrong?

The whole world has seen Federer is playing beautifully and Novak might be slightly below his best.

But that is reflected by the odds. If bookmakers had been asked to price up a potential Fed v Djoko final before the tournament started it would have been 1/2 v 2/1 or 4/7 v 7/4.

The fact that Fed is is on fire means he's 11/10 not 15/8

I totally accept the odds on the world 100 v the world 120 in the first round of the Timbuktu Open might be wrong, but Federer v Djokovich in the Wimbledon final? Near enough impossible.

Hector freerolling me obviously. Will only reply if Federer wins :)

WP sir.

I got involved as a troll and got no replies!!! You are free rolling hector now when Djokovic 2-1 up!!!!! I am having a laugh before all hell breaks loose.  Let's get the bottle in the hod for TFT. 


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: I KNOW IT on July 12, 2015, 05:46:05 PM
You miss my point Tom.


Never been to the golf and stood around applauding people who have been given a freebie.

Nor the Footy

Nor the racing- bar Royal Ascot

I could go on.


Why Tennis?
It also happens at world title fights in boxing.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 12, 2015, 06:11:44 PM
Djokovic has played in the toughest era in pro tennis without doubt. He has had no chance to win a French because of the drug cheat.  He has run into the greatest ever on the lawns.  He is for me the greatest player of all time.  Forget about number of slams and all that bullshit.  He is a total machine.  He is the greatest ever to play the game for me.

At no time in his career did he ever have the chance to win a soft slam like fed did at the start of his career for several years.  Look at some of the guys fed beat in finals in his early years and try and not fall off your chair laughing.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 12, 2015, 07:30:25 PM
Anyone looking for a bet in tomorrow's final should back Federer at a shade of odds against. Both players are in better form than last year, when I thought Federer should have won, but Federer's performance against Murray on Friday was sensational. I am not as confident as I was that Gasquet would beat Wawrinka, or that Federer would beat Murray, so don't give all your profit back on this one.

I am not having a pop Hector, but why on earth would you think the odds were wrong?

The whole world has seen Federer is playing beautifully and Novak might be slightly below his best.

But that is reflected by the odds. If bookmakers had been asked to price up a potential Fed v Djoko final before the tournament started it would have been 1/2 v 2/1 or 4/7 v 7/4.

The fact that Fed is is on fire means he's 11/10 not 15/8

I totally accept the odds on the world 100 v the world 120 in the first round of the Timbuktu Open might be wrong, but Federer v Djokovich in the Wimbledon final? Near enough impossible.

Hector freerolling me obviously. Will only reply if Federer wins :)

WP sir.

I got involved as a troll and got no replies!!! You are free rolling hector now when Djokovic 2-1 up!!!!! I am having a laugh before all hell breaks loose.  Let's get the bottle in the hod for TFT. 

Yeah, the second post was trolling, hands up I admit it. Should have made the post just before the final started.

But the first one wasn't, I honestly wanted to know if I was missing something. It was nigh on impossible Federer was a good bet, but possible that Novak was.

But I would never have backed him value or not.

Two things I could never bet against: Roger Federer and Queens Park Rangers.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: DungBeetle on July 12, 2015, 11:52:37 PM
Anyone looking for a bet in tomorrow's final should back Federer at a shade of odds against. Both players are in better form than last year, when I thought Federer should have won, but Federer's performance against Murray on Friday was sensational. I am not as confident as I was that Gasquet would beat Wawrinka, or that Federer would beat Murray, so don't give all your profit back on this one.

I am not having a pop Hector, but why on earth would you think the odds were wrong?

The whole world has seen Federer is playing beautifully and Novak might be slightly below his best.

But that is reflected by the odds. If bookmakers had been asked to price up a potential Fed v Djoko final before the tournament started it would have been 1/2 v 2/1 or 4/7 v 7/4.

The fact that Fed is is on fire means he's 11/10 not 15/8

I totally accept the odds on the world 100 v the world 120 in the first round of the Timbuktu Open might be wrong, but Federer v Djokovich in the Wimbledon final? Near enough impossible.

Hector freerolling me obviously. Will only reply if Federer wins :)

WP sir.

Hector never replies to those who question the thinking behind his picks unfortunately.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: Waz1892 on July 14, 2015, 08:58:23 PM
The best point in the whole tournament this year....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/33519071



Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2015, 09:04:35 PM
Anyone looking for a bet in tomorrow's final should back Federer at a shade of odds against. Both players are in better form than last year, when I thought Federer should have won, but Federer's performance against Murray on Friday was sensational. I am not as confident as I was that Gasquet would beat Wawrinka, or that Federer would beat Murray, so don't give all your profit back on this one.

I am not having a pop Hector, but why on earth would you think the odds were wrong?

The whole world has seen Federer is playing beautifully and Novak might be slightly below his best.

But that is reflected by the odds. If bookmakers had been asked to price up a potential Fed v Djoko final before the tournament started it would have been 1/2 v 2/1 or 4/7 v 7/4.

The fact that Fed is is on fire means he's 11/10 not 15/8

I totally accept the odds on the world 100 v the world 120 in the first round of the Timbuktu Open might be wrong, but Federer v Djokovich in the Wimbledon final? Near enough impossible.

Hector freerolling me obviously. Will only reply if Federer wins :)

WP sir.

Hector never replies to those who question the thinking behind his picks unfortunately.

This is disappointing if true.

I started TFT with the hope people would share information and knowledge. Not to have random punts because they think someone or some team is playing well or badly.

Sad that someone as shrewd as Hector won't share his knowhow.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: DungBeetle on July 14, 2015, 09:57:00 PM
To be fair my sample size is only two! (Murray v Verdasco 2014 and Bautista Agut v Cuevas in 2015) But both times I questioned selections in terms of value I got no response unless I missed it so I gave up after that.  Perhaps these are isolated oversights or he was busy etc. 


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
To be fair my sample size is only two! (Murray v Verdasco 2014 and Bautista Agut v Cuevas in 2015) But both times I questioned selections in terms of value I got no response unless I missed it so I gave up after that.  Perhaps these are isolated oversights or he was busy etc. 

Well, he didn't reply to my post, so now he's 3 for 3.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 15, 2015, 12:17:35 AM
To be fair my sample size is only two! (Murray v Verdasco 2014 and Bautista Agut v Cuevas in 2015) But both times I questioned selections in terms of value I got no response unless I missed it so I gave up after that.  Perhaps these are isolated oversights or he was busy etc.  

Well, he didn't reply to my post, so now he's 3 for 3.

I have no idea about his response rate but, without aftertiming as i said this before the final, Federer could literally never be the value in the final last weekend.  They were betting 6/4 8/1 pre event.  How on earth could Federer be value at 11/10 even accounting for his slightly tougher draw through out the two weeks?

The only reason i didn't put up a lumpy bet at 1.95 djok was tighty would shit himself and say we already have him for the lot ante post at 2/1.  I don't work like that i just get involved again if the price is wrong but fred is slightly more conservative shall we say and are more likely to lock in than go in again.  

ps does anyone know hector in real life?  I don't.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 15, 2015, 01:29:03 AM
pps i hate sounding like adz after the event.  I just re read my post back and i do sound like adz!  Sorry everyone.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: BigAdz on July 15, 2015, 03:41:32 AM
I'm surprised anyone posts when there is a lynch mob out at every turn.

Camel. You point out that you started TFT so people would explain their picks. This isn't TFT, it's the Wimbledon area.

However. At least he puts his head on the block. for a pro punter, we get very little from you, to then criticise others for actually doing it. It's sad that I feel quite so nervous putting that, because no doubt I will get a right royal slating, but so what. It's the truth, I can only get called the same old names so often, and I will be joining a very long list of select names that you can't stand, so I will be in good company, at least. ;) :D

As for arbboy, well you will never sound like me. I could never sound quite so full of myself over picking a fav that was the clear form choice, ranked clear world number one and has already won the event on multiple occasions. Countdown for a tirade on how I would never recognise value, I don't have a clue about betting etc.

Anyway. I'm sure hector doesn't need me fighting his battles. He has always been a true gent in all my dealings with him, and I'm sure he will reply in his own style, when he sees fit. Certainly not because you lot have called him out.

Flame away. I'm back off to bed.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: TightEnd on July 15, 2015, 10:14:43 AM
To be fair my sample size is only two! (Murray v Verdasco 2014 and Bautista Agut v Cuevas in 2015) But both times I questioned selections in terms of value I got no response unless I missed it so I gave up after that.  Perhaps these are isolated oversights or he was busy etc. 

Well, he didn't reply to my post, so now he's 3 for 3.

I have no idea about his response rate but, without aftertiming as i said this before the final, Federer could literally never be the value in the final last weekend.  They were betting 6/4 8/1 pre event.  How on earth could Federer be value at 11/10 even accounting for his slightly tougher draw through out the two weeks?

The only reason i didn't put up a lumpy bet at 1.95 djok was tighty would shit himself and say we already have him for the lot ante post at 2/1.  I don't work like that i just get involved again if the price is wrong but fred is slightly more conservative shall we say and are more likely to lock in than go in again. 

ps does anyone know hector in real life?  I don't.

come now

what nonsense. just recommend stuff for tft, the times i baulk pale into comparison to the times i place it in full if i can



Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 15, 2015, 12:45:45 PM
I'm surprised anyone posts when there is a lynch mob out at every turn.

Camel. You point out that you started TFT so people would explain their picks. This isn't TFT, it's the Wimbledon area.

However. At least he puts his head on the block. for a pro punter, we get very little from you, to then criticise others for actually doing it. It's sad that I feel quite so nervous putting that, because no doubt I will get a right royal slating, but so what. It's the truth, I can only get called the same old names so often, and I will be joining a very long list of select names that you can't stand, so I will be in good company, at least. ;) :D

As for arbboy, well you will never sound like me. I could never sound quite so full of myself over picking a fav that was the clear form choice, ranked clear world number one and has already won the event on multiple occasions. Countdown for a tirade on how I would never recognise value, I don't have a clue about betting etc.

Anyway. I'm sure hector doesn't need me fighting his battles. He has always been a true gent in all my dealings with him, and I'm sure he will reply in his own style, when he sees fit. Certainly not because you lot have called him out.

Flame away. I'm back off to bed.

As usual though Adz you miss out the ONLY thing that matters to anyone who wants to win long term punting.  We got 2/1 and it went off 11/8.  Securing my usual decent roi whether it wins, loses or draws.  The rest just takes care of itself over time.  The fact he was clear number 1 blah blah blah makes no difference to me.  If he was evens it would have been no bet, if it was 11/8 it would have been no bet but he would still have been the most likely winner and a multiple champion and world number 1.  2/1 it is a strong bet and i recommended so 6 months ago.  I know you struggle with this simple stuff as your posts have shown for years but this is how you make money gambling day in day out in the modern era where volume is so important because the big edges which used to exist have long gone generally.

The vast majority of time the value is right at the top of the market due to fav/longshot bias and certain layers loving 'getting a fav in the book','never go skint laying a short one' blah blah blah and giving it away.  FWIW i backed him again ew at 6/4 with coral the day before the event getting 6/8 a place on him reaching the final when people were asking for close to 4/7 on betfair to reach the final.  The betting shop manager chuckled at me backing a 6/4 shot ew like you probably would as well and asked if i meant to back it win only.  You just smile quietly at them and collect the ev in a couple of weeks time.  I don't expect you to understand backing a 6/4 shot ew is a professional bet either as your ew selections over the years are comically bad (if it is bigger than 10/1 than it is virtually always an ew bet for you whatever the make up of the race and the ew terms available) and virtually always give away a % of your win profits, if you have any built into the bet, on the place part of the bet which could virtually always be placed at a superior price on betfair as a different place only bet.

You were right though in your initial description of yourself though just thought i would add a bit of meat to the bone for those readers who like the more advanced side of punting.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: BigAdz on July 16, 2015, 10:00:30 AM
Cheers Arb.

You didn't disappoint! As ever though, I am happy to lack the finer points of understanding/exploiting value, in exchange for being able to pick winners.

I know you understand your stuff, and that is value in itself, hence the reason I backed Djok when you put it up. Thank you.

From the lack of acknowledgement though, I guess you have been passing up the big priced winners I have suggested. Ergo, you are missing some startling free value! Either that or you're just rude!!! ;) ;D

Tim said he saw you at Uttox races yesterday after the 5th race, you should have come and joined us and Bobby1, you could given us some one on one tuition! :D


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2015, 10:04:56 AM
Cheers Arb.

You didn't disappoint! As ever though, I am happy to lack the finer points of understanding/exploiting value, in exchange for being able to pick winners.

I know you understand your stuff, and that is value in itself, hence the reason I backed Djok when you put it up. Thank you.

From the lack of acknowledgement though, I guess you have been passing up the big priced winners I have suggested. Ergo, you are missing some startling free value! Either that or you're just rude!!! ;) ;D

Tim said he saw you at Uttox races yesterday after the 5th race, you should have come and joined us and Bobby1, you could given us some one on one tuition! :D

Too busy emptying the satchels mate yday as all the 'top of the market' value kept winning all day long.  Shelling peas.  Assume you have a tough day as all the 'value' rags had a bad day in terrible ew races?  Surely even you were betting win only at Uttox yday!!   ;D

I didn't realise you knew Tim. I didn't realise Tim was with anyone at Uttox yday he seemed to be on his own when i saw him just before the last race topping up on the Sheep in the lucky last as it drifted and drifted on the off.  Me and Tim go way back to the very early days at 365 nightshifts on the USA desk in 2001.  Why didn't you introduce yourself?


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: BigAdz on July 16, 2015, 10:18:49 AM
He didn't mention it until we were leaving the course, or I would have. He said you were carrying plenty of timber, so I guess you struggled to carry all that cash on a hot day like that! ;)

Only met him yesterday, v nice fella.

yes, even I noticed it was a win only day.... so we did. ;D

Next time mate.


Title: Re: Wimbledon 2015
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2015, 10:29:27 AM
He didn't mention it until we were leaving the course, or I would have. He said you were carrying plenty of timber, so I guess you struggled to carry all that cash on a hot day like that! ;)

Only met him yesterday, v nice fella.

yes, even I noticed it was a win only day.... so we did. ;D

Next time mate.

He said that to me as well re timber even though i am 2 stone lighter than the last time he saw me!  Think he only remembers me as a slim, fit 26 year old novice to the game that i was when we worked together in 2001!  Top top guy Tim though,  had many a great night shift with him at 365 back in the day punting on anything that moved.  He loves a bet!

You are right about the sun though.  Pretty sun burnt this morning.