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Title: Cilla Black
Post by: DaveShoelace on August 02, 2015, 01:51:52 PM
RIP

I know she obviously had achieved a great many things before it, but for me an absolute legend on a Saturday night in the 1990s. Catchphrase, then Blind Date, then Family Fortunes. That was when telly was good.


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: booder on August 02, 2015, 02:00:04 PM
R.I.P Cilla


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: Pawprint on August 02, 2015, 02:26:41 PM
Really weird how BBC News and BBC Online aren't mentioning this story at all currently.

(Story up now)


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: Kev B on August 02, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
RIP Cilla. Part of everyone's growing up. 


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: TightEnd on August 02, 2015, 06:08:44 PM
the more you read, the more you realise what a remarkable career she had

(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6181614.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/The-Cavern-Club.jpg)


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: tikay on August 03, 2015, 11:52:42 AM


This piece was written, surprisingly, in 1969, by Nik Cohn. WP him.


It's true—the British don't like their girl singers to be too good, they think it smacks of emancipation, and Cilla at least seemed safe. Obviously, she was quite a nice girl. Also, she was respectable and reliable, very clean and quite unsexy, and she played daughter or maybe kid sister, steady date or fiancée, but she played nobody's mistress at all. She wasn't like that. Everyone patronised her like hell, waiting for her to fall, but then she didn't fall after all, she floated instead and she's still up there now. She won't ever come down either—she doesn't sing much, she still comes on like a schoolgirl but she's liked like that and she can't go wrong. Genuinely, she's warm and she makes people glow. In her time, she will grow into a pop Gracie Fields, much loved entertainer, and she'll become institutionalised.


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: tikay on August 03, 2015, 11:59:28 AM
RIP

I know she obviously had achieved a great many things before it, but for me an absolute legend on a Saturday night in the 1990s. Catchphrase, then Blind Date, then Family Fortunes. That was when telly was good.

Not sure I buy that, Barry, but I never watched "light entertainment" as it was known at the time, most especially at weekends, so I'm not best placed to comment.

For me, memories of Cilla are in her pop days, when she was a huge name. 

Very much looked after by the Beatles, who wrote most of her stuff. She was managed by Epstein originally, who I seem to recall had all the Mersey beat groups under management - Jerry & the Pacemakers, Billy J Kramer, all that lot.

Weird to think, but when Cilla Black (real name White...) burst onto the scene, there was no internet, no mobile 'phones, no I-pods or Walkman's. Seems a lifetime ago, & I suppose it was.

She loved her husband to bits, but he died in 1999. He had been her post-Epstein Manager, & after he died, one of her sons became her Manager, which must be quite unusual.

Doubt a breath of scandal was ever attached to her name, despite 50 years in the public eye. Impressive, that.

RIP Cilla.


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: arbboy on August 03, 2015, 12:26:25 PM
Always thought she come across as a terribly fake two faced type on TV in her TV prime.  Living off this working class Liverpool image/accent (which was her act on TV pretty much - lorra lorra laughs etc so cringeworthy.  Would happily lay anyone 100/1 she ever said that phrase in real life surrounded by her upper class friends) whereas in real life she was just a massive social climber who had nothing at all in common with working class people from Liverpool and spoke in a totally different manner to her 'act' on tv.


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: RED-DOG on August 03, 2015, 12:44:55 PM
Always thought she come across as a terribly fake two faced type on TV in her TV prime.  Living off this working class Liverpool image/accent (which was her act on TV pretty much - lorra lorra laughs etc so cringeworthy.  Would happily lay anyone 100/1 she ever said that phrase in real life surrounded by her upper class friends) whereas in real life she was just a massive social climber who had nothing at all in common with working class people from Liverpool and spoke in a totally different manner to her 'act' on tv.

If I were to accept your bet how much could I have on and what would you accept as proof that she did?

PS- I'm not much of a Cilla fan, especially after reading her biography, but I think your comments are unduly harsh, ill timed and unsound.

Edit.

My PPS comment was uncalled for. I apologise. I've removed it.


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: jakally on August 03, 2015, 06:35:59 PM
I was never a massive Cilla fan, mostly because she was the mother-in-law's favourite, but if her worst crime was having a different voice on telly, to that IRL, then she wasn't doing a lot wrong.
Really didn't like Surprise Surprise, but loved Blind Date.


Title: Re: Cilla Black
Post by: mulhuzz on August 03, 2015, 09:18:52 PM
In very unsurprising news, Katie Hopkins can go fuck herself.