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A new low yesterday as Jim seemed to christen the day at one point "deadline day eve".

Best/worst headline so far, after Man U were said to have signed Anthony Martial.......


Caught Martial


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The tale of FIVE goalkeepers......

Man U sold De Gea to Real Madrid - or think they have.

Man U purchased Keylor Nevas - or think they have.

Man U's Anders Lindegard moved to WBA

Man U are supposedly set to sell Victor Valdes to Watford

Man U named Sergio Romero as their no 1. Probably.

This chap was punditating on ESPN last night - I barely recognized him.


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Gotta love the 80's shorts though.


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What a mess.  No idea why Watford need Valdes.  Gomes is perfectly fine.  Reminds
Me of QPR buying Green and Ceasar at same time.  Hopefully just a rumour.

6pm finish is irritating. I'll miss all the developments.

You'll miss the West Ham scoop.




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‏@davidgold   Three new signings could be confirmed before the deadline, Tuesday 6.00 pm dg

What will 'Spurs do today?

Does Abedayor go to West Ham, or join Smug Sherwood @ Villa?

Neither. He's going to Man U. Allegedly.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/31/manchester-united-offered-transfer-of-emmanuel-adebayor-reports-say-5369145/

Man U sell Hernandez

Man U loan Janujaz to Borussia Dortmund.

Not. A. Chance.

After weeks of negotiating with Perez, and flying to Barcelona to miss out on Pedro, is Ed Woodwood really going to start last minute negotiations with Daniel Levy about the wrong spurs striker?

Chelsea's Victor Moses, previously loaned to Liverpool & Stoke City, has signed a new contract with Chelsea - & was promptly loaned to West Ham for the season.

You know when I make posts about engines and the like and you say, "I don't understand any of that"?

Well touche.

fyp

spurs offering man u abedayor did make me chuckle this morning. 

As a United fan I am just going to wait and see who turns up after the International Break, this has been the craziest window ever.

Premier League transfer spending currently stands at £790m, £45m short of record (£835m last summer)

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Watford giving medical to Obbi Oulare.  Supposed Belgian wonderkid.  Never heard of him.   

Reading agree to pay £2 million to borrow Vydra for a year.  World gone mad.

Now appears to be a public auction going on for Vydra about who will stump up the most loan fee.  Half the Championship, Fehnerbache and a couple of Bundesliga clubs.

Assume Arsenal will be in the bottom 2 of that list come 7pm.

I would actually take Charlie Austin at this point.

Come on Mr Wenger, prove me wrong, just once, please.

That is an eye opener. I know Coates at Stoke is very shrewd with the transfer budget and it shows here. Surprised at Man U not splashing out more and getting a bigger net spend. Are the club still in financial problems from back in the Glazers day?

"Man City buying the title this season then"  ::)

EDIT. Just read this elsewhere.....that is some savings in the wage bill....wow. It just shows us all again the gulf between top flight football and grass root level.

Manchester United shave £1.4m per week (£72m per year) off the wage bill.

Rademal Falcao £300k
Robin Van Persie £250k
Angel Di Maria £250k
Nani £100k
Javier Hernandez £70k
Tom Cleverley £70k
Rafael £60k
Jonny Evans £65k
Anderson £60k
Adnan Januzaj £50k
Tyler Blackett £40k
Anders Lindegaard £40k
James Wilson £30k
Jesse Lingard £10k
Ben Amos £10k
Angelo Henriquez £10k
Reece James £10k

*not including players coming in

The most biazzre thing about it all is Manure could have signed Begovic from Stoke for circa £10m (£2m more than Chelski paid) then instantly get £30m+ for De gea going to Madrid in a total win/win/win situation for all 3 parties.  Have the whole pre season to settle the keeper into the squad who is a better keeper than anyone else in their squad (assuming De Gea left obviously).  No dramas.  Stoke get £2m more for the player than they did.  Manure don't lose out on a top replacement with huge EPL experience to a direct rival and Begovic gets to play every week in a Champions League side rather than sit on the bench and probably earn a higher salary as a starting champions league keeper.

How this deal never happened and how Woodward has allowed what has happened to happen goal keeper wise is quite biazzre.  Woodward surely needs to take a lot of flack for the Manure transfer windows.  Never used to happen before he landed.

Leicester trying to sign Walters from Stoke.

"West Ham on a DeadlineDay rampage" says the press

Jelavic ✓
Alex Song ✓
Moses ✓
Adebayor 1/3
Antonio 1/3

what do we think if they get those 5? good signings? risky? improve the side?

Prem loan rules if I understand them correctly: 4 across a season, 2 at any one time, only one from any club. West ham have Jenkinson, Song, Lanzini and Moses currently on loan.

Adebayor stays?

He can only move to West Ham now on a perm deal, not a loan.  Seems very very unlikely he rips up his current contract and leaves all that cash on the table.  1000/1 Wham decide to match his current wages on a Perm deal so no deal i would imagine.  Unless they offer him a lumpy multi year deal which would make up for leaving this year's cash on the table.  West Ham under the porn barons are not fans of over paying so i doubt that will happen.

virgil van dijk to southampton?

like the look of that for southampton

a happy co-anchor

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As a City fan, it's hilarious to see the shenanigans going on over at United. Had all summer to sort out the DDG situation, and instead get stuck with him due to late paperwork. Am I right in thinking he leaves on a free next summer?

Thinking they had Otamendi and Pedro in the bag. Nah.

Splashing out anywhere between 36 million and 80 million Euros on Martial.....who?

They mostly used to be ruthlessly efficient in the transfer market, and it was City who were always fucking about (Kaka anyone?), but these days, with Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain pulling the strings and Marewood not in the transfer acquisition frame, we go about our business in a much better way. Some transfers take longer than others obviously, KDB being a prime example, but we swoop quickly where possible at the moment. I'm pretty pleased we'll not be involved in the merry-go-round today.....unless we think 'fuck it, lets get Pogba' ;)

Your right I dont think I ever used to be interested in Transfer Deadline Day as we were always sorted way before.

Now every time I dont know who is coming or going!

Mancini - ''I've identified the players who can take us to the next level. Get me Hazard and De Rossi whatever the cost. I won't take no for an answer''.

Marewood - ''Soz boss, I did try, honestly I did, but we just couldn't get them. However, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the alternatives who have just put pen to paper.....Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell''.

Mancini - ''Fuck you, you've just got me the sack''.

Long live Woodward!

They scored more than De Rossi and Hazard have over the last week.

Glenn Murray.  £5 million.  Discuss.

Expensive given they have given him the security of a 3 year deal 3 weeks before his 32nd birthday.  Been reported as £4m.  Double the price of Walters at similar age seeking similar length contracts.  £4m seems about right.  Wouldn't want to be paying either circa £40k a year when they are 35 in 2018 though.

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Variance.

I'm a Sunderland supporter and Jack Rodwell is about as much use as a nun's tits.

Just seen this on Skysports.....

'Arsenal are the ONLY club in Europe’s top five leagues not to sign an outfield player this window.

Will that change before 6pm?'

Thoughts from Arsenal fans? I respect Wenger and what he has achieved with the club, but is he is own worst enemy? And ultimately costing the club?

why has the window changed to 6pm btw?

champions league squads have to be in by 11pm so the EPL want there transfer window finished before hand
if it wasnt for bank holiday transfer window would of ended 11pm last night

Transfers have until 8pm to go through as long as both clubs can prove to the Premier League that they were in detailed negotiations before 6pm.

Wouldn't be surprised if some transfers don't surface until the early hours!

Odds of Michu to Stoke have dropped to from 30/1 to 1/7. If true it would more than likely see Super Johnny Walters leave the club.

Nice upgrade if it happens.

Same old same old, different year/transfer window that's all.

Will we?  Who knows.

Why is it deemed a failure not to splash cash around? Some - much -  of the money that has spent by other teams today is money down the drain.

do you not think Arsenal need a top class striker, and were top class strikers not available in this transfer window?

Which ones were available who are better than the ones they already have?  Secondly, of those who are better and available how many of them would come to Arsenal?

pertinent questions

Benzema would be the obvious one, he was available for a spell earlier in the summer

needed top dollar of course, hence the sticking point

Depends on the ambitions of the club. If they are content with a probable top 4 spot and a decent run in a cup that may yield a trophy, then yeah keeping the cheque book looked away and having faith in the current squad is fine. I'm not sure that is enough for Arsenal fans though. They have a talented bunch of players but are clearly one or 2 short of really competing for the title.

Wenger just seems so stubborn in the transfer market. Arbboy is right in that it would take a certain type of player to push them on, and those type of players either don't come cheap or are hard to acquire, but from the outside looking in it appears that Wenger was happy to conclude his business with just Cech (who was a great buy) and no-one else.

For all we know they have been looking/trying to get one. Quietly & efficiently, without all the ra ra & hoohah, which so often ends with egg on faces. Very efficiently run club. I like that. 

Successful? I'd say so, too. Almost every club in the Prem over the last 18 or 20 years would swap with them. Cracking new ground, well on the way to being paid for, not indebted to funny money & weird overseas backers who may disappear at any time. Class Manager on a long-term contract. How much Compo have clubs like Chelsea, Newcastle, Liverpool etc paid in compo to Managers? And Arsenal?

Given Manure wanted the same said high quality striker and ended up spending £40m on a unproven teenager from France would suggest there were not that many top end strikers available to purchase this time around.  Looks like keeping your powder dry rather than recklessly gambling huge sums was the correct call again by Arsenal.

accept all this

but Arsenal are, if they are to win the premier league and get to the last few of the champions league, competing in the same market as russian and middle eastern owners with huge resources

now the stadium is paid for and with £200m in the bank it appears that the club is settling for 3rd at best in the L and last 16 at best in the CL, unless the manager or the board step up the recruitment

i don't think most Arsenal fans want to settle for enviable financial prudence if it means they are currently at a ceiling of achievement

Anyone heard about J Pennant's whereabouts?  He turned down a deal with Wigan for this season after spending the back end of last year there on a short term deal til the end of the season.

I'm not sure that the fans view is relevant. Do you really think their understanding of the finances of a big football club exceeds that of the Board & Wenger? Do you allow complete strangers to tell you how to spend your money?

no, i don't but i also know that many arsenal fans waited a decade for a top class keeper, are still waiting for a world class defensive midfielder, have giroud up front and then what... and meanwhile have 37 5 foot 7 attacking midfielders sourced from france and spain who can tip tap it around superbly but can't get the team higher than 3rd in the elague

 i also feel that some clubs (mine definitely has at times) knows it can rely on the fans to turn up whatever and therefore this "support inelasticity" means they are in effect immune from outside pressure


the premier league currently earns more from its foreign tv deals alone than any other league does in total, worldwide, from all tv revenue

this is before the new tv deal that is going to drive transfer prices up further from end of this season onwards

how does wenger's intransigence stack up with wanting to improve on 3rd and last 16 in PL and CL in an even madder recruitment environment?

 

The last 19 (?) years provides the answer. And no, they have not failed.

Seems everyone is available at the right price, I don't see how that matters these days.   I would think Arsenal are a fairly attractive proposition if the right terms were agreed.

I don't think Bale, Messi, Ronaldo, Silva, Augero etc would even consider moving to Arsenal whatever the price tbh.  Arsenal are stuck in a tough place right now in terms of attracting players who are any better than the ones they already have because they don't provide the real world class players a platform to walk into of winning trophies.

its all about expectation

Arsenal reached the CL final in 2005, and last won the league in 2003-04

since then we have abramovic, man c billions etc that have changed the competitive environment for good. chelsea and man c aren't going bust.

if an arsenal fan is happy with top 4 and last 16 and winning a domestic cup as the summit of their seasonal achievement, then fine

i suggest that most want more 


if of course the tv landscape worsens, then arsenal will have it off.

Why should they worry what the fans want?

If Lil Dave, who is, shall we say, a little loose with his money, told you to spend your own money, would you do as he said?

As long as the Board are happy, the view of the fans is not really relevant. Unless, of course, they are shareholders.

When they pay to see a match, that's all they get for their money - 90 minutes of football. It does not give them voting rights.

Redknapp just made a great point about Spurs acting like a big four club but spending like a mid table club with their transfer tactics under Levy.  I think they really are miles behind the big 5 now and in real danger this season of being swamped by a number of the solid mid table sides if they are not careful.

of course, but i might suggest that many Arsenal fans are unhappy.

not just the lovely piers morgan

yet they will still turn up to the games, buy the merch etc etc

and they are being taken advantage of in this football financial environment because the club has them over a barrel, a football fan will never vote with his feet in sufficient numbers to make a difference

meanwhile

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Sad how i cant say exactly how the club has treated me but i can officially say i will never play Jeremy Peace.



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Arsenal fans are unhappy? What, like Sunderland, Newcastle, and Liverpool fans?

It really does not matter if the fans are happy. Leave the business to the businessmen, leave the management to the experts like Arsene. Does a single Arsenal fan know as much as Arsene does about football management?

Never play Jeremy Peace, the Chairman? What that mean?

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thinking he is saying he wont play for WBA again going on strike

:-)

its all about expectations


sunderland stay up?

newcastle top half?

liverpool top 4?

what are arsenal fans expectations?  top 4? last 16 CL? win the FA Cup

if so, then they aren't unhappy

i suggest expectations are higher than that though for a club of its resources


and it is in a tough spot, because its competing with lunatics who own trophy assets, not that concerned with value as arsene so clearly is

how the club manages that disconnect between boardroom and fan base is the issue

Why would anyone club want someone who behaves like this?

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Deal sheets: what a load of tosh. You've had three months to sort a deal out. Why should you get two bonus hours?

Liverpool have had an Internacional player training with them all summer but still need a deal sheet to get it done by 8pm?!

Another solid transfer window for Southampton.

Identify targets early, get the majority in early and stick to guns with the want aways. Really do like the way Les Reed does business.

Van Dijk looks a solid aquisition and will slot straight into the first team alongside Fonte.

Wanyama needs to get his head down and prove he is good enough for a move next summer.

Why would any club just offer £5m up front for him?  Just seems like you lot have been taking the mick with 4 low ball offers. 

only one bid in for wanyama and it was for less than we paid for him move away was never serious apart from in his head

looking forward to seeing if JWP can challenge him for his position as a DM/deep playmaker

Seems like Real Madrid have sent Manure up the garden path leading them along, stringing it out so they get the keeper out of contract next summer for free knowing no club will think they have a chance to sign him with their interest.  Another massive negative to Woodward's savvy and ability to run the club.  

De Gea must be over the moon as all the bad press is on the clubs and he can collect the £12m golden hello next summer when he signs on a free and walks away from Manchester with a huge pot of gold to go back home to live with his stunning missus who clearly doesn't want to leave Spain.  What a coup for the Spanish v Manchester.

SPIN agree with you.

Tottenham points are pitched at 54-55.5 which seems absurdly low.

Anyone know what they were before a ball was kicked this season?

61 -62.5

They really are now miles off the pace.  They can't be considered part of a 'big 6' now surely?  Take the badge off and they are no bigger than Soton/Swansea/Everton etc with numerous others spending big cash on their tail.

The new TV money, which is pretty much equally shared, really hurts teams like Spurs who can't get Champs league money on top and makes the rest of the league a much more level playing field than it has ever been.  Being in the Europa league just hinders Spurs even more.  There is little financial gain and it doesn't really help attract players plus it puts a huge strain on their squad.  The average money grabbing foreigner coming to the EPL for money would surely rather sign for a team without Europa league commitments than one with them?  Do you really need all the hassle of the extra travelling and games if you are getting paid the same money?

Just look at Everton's first 11 and compare it to Spurs.  I know which one i would prefer.  I think Levy is Spur's biggest problem tbh and has been a main reason why they are no longer anywhere near the top 4 anymore.

Sad but true.

The last time Real came calling SAF persuaded Ronaldo to give us one more season, and what a season he gave us. Shame that de Gea can't be similarly persuaded, but it seems that LVG lacks the ability to manage players.

Joe Lewis is no mug.

If Levy is to blame, he would have got the tin tack by now.

Do you wish Moyes was still in charge in hindsight?

I wish SAF was still in charge.
I wish Edward Woodward would go back to being The Equalizer.
I think we treated Moyes badly, but I also think he messed up when he arrived by changing way too much of the backroom operations.

I don't know what to think right now though. I would hate to see us have to install a revolving door on the Manager's office but LVG has some serious work to do if we are to hang on to a Top 4 place.

My view on Levy is he thrives on this image of being the hardest bargainer in the game.  He loves it.  I don't think it helps Spurs recruit the type of talent they need (most of whom will be using spurs like Bale did as a stepping stone) because these types of players know how hard it will be for them to escape from Spurs because of his relentless haggling so they just choose to not join spurs and go elsewhere.

There is no doubt he is a shrewd operator financially.  As an owner of a club he ticks a lot of the boxes for you running a tight ship.  There is no doubt about that.

As to firing Levy not sure it would be that simple because Levy has a substantial % of the shares i think alongside Lewis.  Lewis is obviously the majority shareholder but i don't think it would be that simple.

A new man needs his own team behind him.

Otherwise as soon as there's a little rocky period, everyone will be whispering beind the new man's back "that's not the way the old gaffer did things, we would be through this by now under him". Can't operate like that.

The only way to keep the same backroom staff would have been to promote from within like Liverpool in the 70s and 80s did.

Yeah, I guess so. But in corporate terms it felt like a top floor putsch to facilitate a major shift in the philosophy of the business.
Like replacing Rob, Simon, Nick all in one move and converting DTD into a Casino with a small poker room.

Fergie was a genius. Not just as our manager but his timing in leaving was perfect.

I think it's actually quite tough for LVG to balance the books and expectation. I think United ARE making progress altho it is somewhat unexciting in playing style/transfer policy.

I deffo think now the window has shut and we have De Gea he should play him

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DM source is dubious but if it is true it backs up my view of Levy destroying Spurs as a 'big club'.  VWP to WBA for standing up to him and his wide boy tactics.  If you have to pay £25m over 5 years for a player who is your number 1 target over the summer and you risk losing him over these kind of terms then Spurs really are a mid table club.  If they offer the £25m up front they probably get their man.

Can't even begin to understand why this is a conversation. Let's mull over who has more financial nous...

Levy > Arry

He takes an awful lot of stick, but we have a new stadium to pay for and we wasted £80m two years ago. Levy has run the club on paying wages outside the top four and offering a succession of managers access to whoever they wanted. Levy won't pay more than he thinks people are worth and doesn't get ridden over often. Baldini and Comolli are the ones spurs fans generally believe have caused us the trouble in the windows.

Poch has spent the summer getting rid of the trouble makers (with one exception who wanted £5m to go) and sending younger lads to places they can develop. The squad will be a much better place to be than it was last year, by all accounts. Poch wants youth with potential so it's down to him now.  He will get two seasons before spurs decide whether he takes us next door to the Whatever Stadium.

We simply can't compete with the top 3 and don't have Arsène Wenger as our manager. Fighting for fifth and a run in the cups is our season. £25m chasing a petulant child won't achieve anything but disrupt the squad and leave us spending more to end up in the second position. 

Hope I'm wrong and we can have another CL run. That was great fun.

Loved that grave accent in Arsene, wish I knew how do that.

My old keyboard only offers me an acute behind the alt key.

Hold down Alt and type these numbers:

133 = à
130 = é
138 = è
147 = ô
129 = ü
145 = æ

Plus lots of others

Bloody hell, how did you know that?

Tell me that you have those memorised just in case you need them.

Learned them at school.

You know how to hurt a guy.

God I feel old.

I'm only 35, and I don't remember learning that*

If it was in year 11, then it's highly possible I was down the club practicing :D

difference between scumbag college and footlights ldo

:D

Tap in from Doobs but a well executed one nonetheless.

;hattip;

Haha, wp :)

Yeah im younger than tal and didnt learn that even though in college we did some typing classes.

I did go to a normal school though ;)

Everton fans singing to Chelsea that money can't buy you everything.

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