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a small MTT on Party

5 remain

payouts

365
250
200
150
125

blinds are 50,000-100,000

UTG 1.05m Hanging on not playing hands
UTG+1 Hero 1.9m
Button 2.5m very quiet. wants to see the shorties bust?
Small blind 3m very quiet also not helped by being the wrong side of...
Big blind 7.5m table captain, opening most hands, applying pressure

UTG folds

Hero has  9d 9c

a) raise or jam?

if raise (to say 200,000) call or fold to a jam? does it matter who jams?


thank you

treat me gently!

I'm jamming so I don't have to think any more. Don't think I'm deep enough to r/f or r/c. If I'm behind, hey ho. If someone wants to flip, good luck them.

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We're jammin

Actually I would min raise with the plan of calling a shove from anyone (unless it goes us minraise, someone shoves, someone else calls/reshoves then I would fold).

Just wanted an excuse to use that pic

I'd raise/call.

Not perfect on these type of tourney spots, but I'd assume 99 is strong enough to induce with, so I'd raise/call. It's higher variance than jamming though ofc.

Shove. Raise/calling would likely be icm disaster especially as two of the guys are super tight. Could also r/f

Get it in first is my motto in this situation I hate calling with less than tens - although I see many do that !
Most times others will fold and just adding blinds antis is beneficial
If some one calls its oops
Although a raise looks stronger a min raise prices the big blind in with any 2 in this spot

Jam

Don't mind an open/decide generally but aggro bb is going to put us in all sorts of trouble here so just stick it in and take the option away

I'm in the jam camp.

If we raise, get flatted, & see a broadway flop, we are buggered.  And if we get looked up by a big ace, fine, take our chances - this is the hand with which we can get a stack & go on to win - or bust.                 

What did you do?

I agree with Tikay?

i'd raise
You can fold if BTN or SB 3bet (vs tight players in a small comp, you wont be being messed with). If BB jams i think you have to fold, most likely he just peels as 3-betting/jamming is still pretty undesirable for him in this spot vs your opening range.
Given your descriptions of BTN and SB, you're not getting peeled much... so opening and jamming should achieve the same thing, only you can avoid the coolers when the tight guys have it by r/f vs them

jam

For those who are advocating jamming, at what point does a hand become strong enough to make raise/calling the preferred choice with this stack depth? JJ+ and AK?

I would Jam, the bb will be peeling so often to our min  raise, and as Tikay said there is very few good flops.

I'm with this most of the way but think I call the BB if he jams - if I don't want to run the risk of being jammed on by the BB and then being tempted to fold I'd just jam myself I guess

I shoved, and got called by the BB

being quite a bit out of practice, i second guessed myself after the tournament on the range of options pre here, hence the thread

Open jam sucks too hard to get called by much worse. I'd deffo r/c and can always fold to 2 allins or w.e.

If/when bb peels then play poker!

There is also a 10k ante

Id raise and call all but the super tight guy. Interesting how all the mtt guys are 100% jam though.

for what its worth i was BB in this hand 
and think jamming is fine

was it you?

well played. nightmare with that chip stack

Yes was me
remember the hand not because i knew it was you or the result
but because it was part of a chain of hands prior to and on that Final table

prior to this  on ft bubble or close too
i won flip raised  Jh Jd utg was accomadated by  BB   Ahrt  Ks to get to 5 million
then on ft
blinds at 50k 100k i raised in small blind with  Js Jc BB called flop   Qh Qc  8c i shoved he called of with   Ahrt  Tc
housed up on turn knocking him out and me up to 7 million

your hand was  later and readers  can guess what i had in BB

then with 4 left  at this point i have got close to 10 million others are sb 1.3 BB 2 and 2.8  blinds 60 and 120
i raise button with  Jc Jh SB Shoves 66  and we were down to 3

for balance i called short stack shove with k4  to get heads up

and won the heads up with  Td Tc  on a board off  Qh Jc Th Ts  7c

which i think makes it officially God mode

hence why i remembered it
easy game some times

Did you have JJ or TT in the hand with Tighty, Hugh? :D