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Title: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on November 22, 2015, 09:08:27 AM
The results by Leicester City are stunning, & I'm starting to root for them every week.

I know Vardy has been sizzling hot, but I think there is more to the Team than him, much more.

The most impressive thing is how many times they have come from behind to win. Real resilience & character.

They stand top of the EPL this morning. I suppose it can't last, but I'd love them to at least finish top 4, & prove that the you don't have to spend silly money to build an entertaining & successful team.

If we go back to the latter end of the last season, & now the first third of this season, it looks like this.

(http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/7A63/production/_86813313_premierleaguetablesince4april.jpg)
 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on November 22, 2015, 09:10:53 AM


And this man - maybe not the world's greatest coach or Manager, but he seems to be essentially a decent man, with good values, great humility, & most of all, does not take himself too seriously.

Smiles readily, too.

LIKE
 

(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Leicester-City-Leicester-Leicester-v-Sunderland-Premier-League-Leicester-Match-Report-Claudio-Ranieri-Chelsea-Chelsea-New-597047.jpg)
 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on November 22, 2015, 10:20:19 AM
Breath of fresh air , hope they win the title.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 10:29:17 AM
i was going to start a thread this morning, but was beaten to it

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUXK2AUWEAAW4bk.jpg)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 10:29:40 AM
Leicester's form since April 4:

WWWWLWWDW WWDDWDLWDWWWW

That's title-winning form across 22 games.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 10:30:24 AM
it gets tougher through to January though

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTit8ugWwAAWd3t.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 10:32:06 AM
still, aside from those who make the ehadlines Vardy and Mahrez you ahve to watch the little midfielder Kante next time we are on TV

a Makalele type, wins all the balls in front of our back four, tidies everythign up, gives it to the creative players and then does it again

wonderful player. only 24 years old


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on November 22, 2015, 10:35:03 AM


I won't shed a tear if they tail off a bit, it's bound to happen, I just hope they don't change their style or attitude.

As Norfolk Boy (aka Clever Clogs in Scotty's quiz) says, a breath of fresh air.

Really enjoyed the EPL so far this year. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 12:13:24 PM
7 PL teams have conceded 20+ goals this season. They're currently sitting 20th, 19th, 18th, 17th, 16th, 15th & 1st

the team in first has scored 27 though


worth noting that we have been exceptionally lucky with injuries. Matt James cruciate aside, we havent had to do without the key players throughout our run since April and rotation has been minimal

presumably some variance will change that soon


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 01:33:56 PM
Leicester are the first team outside of the 'Big Five' (MUFC, MCFC, AFC, CFC, LFC) to lead the PL after 13 games since Leeds in 1999-2000.

sorry, but tikay did start the thread :-)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on November 22, 2015, 02:01:53 PM
it gets tougher through to January though

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTit8ugWwAAWd3t.jpg)

Chelsea at home? Looks like its getting easier to me!

Refreshing to see a 'none Sky 4/6' up there, it does seem inevitable that it can't last, but stranger things have happened and I'm sure you're enjoying the ride every week.

Didn't Ipswich qualify for the UEFA Cup one season, then get relegated the next..... ;)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on November 22, 2015, 02:56:27 PM
Thought when Leicester got Ranieri in they were in trouble. He's dealt with the media with class.

How much credit does Pearson deserve? Mostly his squad?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 03:03:38 PM
Thought when Leicester got Ranieri in they were in trouble. He's dealt with the media with class.

How much credit does Pearson deserve? Mostly his squad?

Mostly and deserves a lot of the credit

that said Ranieri has got virtually every tactical decision pre-game and in game substitutions right too

behind the scenes both managers benefit/benefitted from a very successful scouting network led by Steve Walsh the former Chelsea head scout who found Zola, Drogba and Essien for Ranieri and a decade later got Mahrez for £400,000, found Kante and many more besides

with a couple of notable exceptions (Kramaric etc) the recruitment policy has been a huge success and there is apparently a lot nmore to come from that in January onwards

eg we have scouts in Spain, France, Poland, Italy etc

at one recent game, watching Legia Warsaw scouts were in attendance from, it is reported, Man C, Man U, liverpool arsenal and...Leicester

this is the resource that a bilionaire owner can put in to the infrastructure of the club that mean we are progressing fast


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on November 22, 2015, 03:12:44 PM
I thought that jose was in charge when Drogba and Essien were signed.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 03:14:24 PM
Steve Walsh our assistant manager/chief scout was chelsea's head scout at the time and found them for Chelsea. iirc it was ranieri but could be jose. around the time one left the other came give or take a year either side


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 22, 2015, 03:17:58 PM
"Jamie Vardy, Riyad Mahrez and Shinji Okazaki... How Leicester City became the Premier League's top bargain hunters"

article on walsh and the scouting network

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3220155/Jamie-Vardy-Riyad-Mahrez-Shinji-Okazaki-Leicester-City-Premier-League-s-BARGAIN-HUNTERS.html

a quote in that is

"Walsh was at Chelsea for 16 years and Jose Mourinho appointed him European scout. He worked with Andre Villas-Boas on the signings of Didier Drogba and Michael Essien, before leaving for Newcastle under Sam Allardyce, forming a bond with Pearson, and moving to Leicester"






Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on November 22, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
Walsh is a good operator as with a lot of things and awful lot of luck in these.

Okazaki is hardly a snip at the price paid he is what he is an ok buy no more.

Rob Mackenzie who is now at Spurs would have been behind a lot of the recruitment.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on November 22, 2015, 06:16:29 PM
So it's not the Leicester 80s legend Steve Walsh who loved a red card?  I always assumed it was.  Makes more sense now.  Could never see Walshie turning into a great scout.   What does the other Steve Walsh do nowadays?  Is he still at the club in any capacity?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on November 22, 2015, 07:22:48 PM
So it's not the Leicester 80s legend Steve Walsh who loved a red card?  I always assumed it was.  Makes more sense now.  Could never see Walshie turning into a great scout.   What does the other Steve Walsh do nowadays?  Is he still at the club in any capacity?

The other one runs a 16-18yo academy/BTEC course with Muzzy Izzet. One of the lads in my sons local team goes there.

https://www.ucasprogress.com/provider/83844


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on November 22, 2015, 09:32:04 PM
I'd love someone like Leicester or Saints to squeak a top 4 spot.  Would invigorate the league for seasons to come imo.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on November 22, 2015, 11:55:47 PM
So loving this having been a fan since the 61 cup final. As I put on FB last night I would have loved my dad to be alive and see Leicester a shorter price to win the Premier than they are to get relegated!!

Although I had a lot of time for Pearson I really felt that the Tinkerman's appointment was an amazing coup. The clubs he has managed must have seen something to appoint him at first but the expectations at those clubs were and are huge. At Leicester all is has to do is keep us up and he will be there as long as he likes.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2015, 10:49:25 AM
Kasper Schmeichel on Leicester City's remarkable rise to the top

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34896490


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on November 23, 2015, 12:09:20 PM
It's obviously easier to be relaxed in interviews when you're performing above expectations, but I get the sense that Ranieri is thoroughly enjoying the job.

I love how they play and if pressed really hard to choose between winning the league and finishing runners up to Leicester I think I'd take second now.

Still hope to beat you next week though. That 5-3 still hurts.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
It's obviously easier to be relaxed in interviews when you're performing above expectations, but I get the sense that Ranieri is thoroughly enjoying the job.

I love how they play and if pressed really hard to choose between winning the league and finishing runners up to Leicester I think I'd take second now.

Still hope to beat you next week though. That 5-3 still hurts.

last season the game was in september, very early LVG, man u went 3-1 up and at the time were suffering a lot of defensive injuries. iirc it was a back three of tyler blackett, jonny evans and rafael.

Allied to that, they took the rather baffling tactical decision to defend high, in some cases as high as the half way line. We put the ball in behind, let Vardy chase it and hey presto we scored goals

i don't expect similar this weekend. for starters united are very solid at the back now, Smalling for example has come on again this season and i expect United to defend deeper so as to not get caught in behind. They know they will have most of the possession (we haven't had more than 45% of possession in any game this season, sometimes as little as 30%) so as long as they arent caught on the break they should control the game

still, that 5-3 will live in the memory for me. to beat a top 4 side from 3-1 down for a side like us hardly ever happens


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on November 23, 2015, 02:43:24 PM
It's obviously easier to be relaxed in interviews when you're performing above expectations, but I get the sense that Ranieri is thoroughly enjoying the job.

I love how they play and if pressed really hard to choose between winning the league and finishing runners up to Leicester I think I'd take second now.

Still hope to beat you next week though. That 5-3 still hurts.

last season the game was in september, very early LVG, man u went 3-1 up and at the time were suffering a lot of defensive injuries. iirc it was a back three of tyler blackett, jonny evans and rafael.

Allied to that, they took the rather baffling tactical decision to defend high, in some cases as high as the half way line. We put the ball in behind, let Vardy chase it and hey presto we scored goals

i don't expect similar this weekend. for starters united are very solid at the back now, Smalling for example has come on again this season and i expect United to defend deeper so as to not get caught in behind. They know they will have most of the possession (we haven't had more than 45% of possession in any game this season, sometimes as little as 30%) so as long as they arent caught on the break they should control the game

still, that 5-3 will live in the memory for me. to beat a top 4 side from 3-1 down for a side like us hardly ever happens

I think Leicester went on a horror run right after that game, didn't you?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2015, 02:47:16 PM
that's correct

bottom end of March, then the run started

the run coincided with Huth signing on loan and Pearson switching to 3-5-2, the problem previously being that we would concede a bad goal every game. When Huth came in, this stopped and it all looked much more organised, less frantic

what has been impressive this season is that Ranieri reverted it back to 4-4-2.We have conceded 20 goals though, but such is the speed, width and counter attacking prowess that we have troubled everyone going forward

even our one bad defeat, 5-2 to Arsenal, we gave them everything they could handle.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on November 23, 2015, 07:16:38 PM
Very impressed with Leicester/Tinkerman, am afraid top 8 finishing position will be where Leicester will finish, No strength in depth and this is Key for a high Premier League finish.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2015, 07:20:00 PM
Very impressed with Leicester/Tinkerman, am afraid top 8 finishing position will be where Leicester will finish, No strength in depth and this is Key for a high Premier League finish.

not quite

wasilewski, benaloaune, schlupp, kramaric, nathan dyer, andy king, inler, de laet could not get in saturday's XI

cracking little youth system too and three good ones currently out on loan gettign experience

obviously if vardy/mahrez leave or get injured we aren't the same team but them apart we can absorb anyone out for a period. this wasn't the case a year ago

if we are top six come january we'll spend too, have a run at it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on November 23, 2015, 07:35:19 PM
Beat Manure and I will be happy 😊 not sure Leicesters fringe players will be the answer but as you said come January funds may be available. You don't think Vardy now 28yrs of age I think will be looking for a big money move to double his Salary. Has 3 good years left and I think he needs to weigh his financial options us very carefully.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2015, 07:38:45 PM
contrary to reports he's under contract to 2018 and i am sure there is scope to re-up financially if need be

£10-15m isn't going to get him now and if a big club wants to pay £25-30m+ for a 28 year old who won't be the same player when he loses that yard of pace and therefore won't have resale value at 31-32 years old then fine, we'll re-invest

i fear Mahrez, at 25 years old, leaving much more and he could go for a lot of money to a very big club


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on November 24, 2015, 07:12:01 PM
Would Leicester fans take a guaranteed 6th placed finish and an FA Cup final appearance if offered now or prefer to play out the season?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on November 24, 2015, 11:43:21 PM
Course they would


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on November 25, 2015, 01:08:45 AM
Course they would

4 posts back Tighty said they'd spend and have a run at it if still top 6 come Jan. That's 6 games away, albeit a tough run of games.

Leicester will probably never have a better chance go get into the CL. Why settle for 6th and a FA Cup final appearance when worst case you'll probably finish 8th and possibly make a cup final any other year.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on November 25, 2015, 01:44:07 AM
I think if u asked Leicester fans 90% would take it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on November 25, 2015, 02:08:00 AM
Why would u want to be in the black hole of the Europa League finishing 6th?  No team with a tiny squad wants to end up in that league on a Thurs night with no financial upside at all which will cost you 6-10 points next season.  i would want champs league spot or tank and finish outside the top 6.  Finishing 5th and 6th is going to be a black hole in the next 5 years as teams realise there is no advantage being in the Europa league only fatigue and costs.  The huge increase in domestic TV money makes the playing level more level than ever and being in this black hole will really start to hurt teams with ambitions to reach the top 4 long term.   Once you are stuck in this hole you might never get out.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 25, 2015, 10:15:57 AM
notwithstanding the downsides of the europa league next season, we'd take 6th and the cup final right now

i know there are multiple transfer targets identified for January, pursuit of which really depends where we are mid-January


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on November 25, 2015, 01:27:32 PM
Interesting, asked my LCFC supporting son what he would do expecting him to say let it ride. He was 100% take 6th and the cup.

Have managed to get him tickets to see them play - at Spurs in Jan via the Spurs website. Didn't blink an eye at the LE postcode, was quite surprised.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on November 26, 2015, 10:32:10 PM
thought this was funny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Was that a  ;bump;or just  ;booder;?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on November 26, 2015, 10:51:54 PM
just something i thought was funny and thought would fit in on the thread about the tinker man

sorry if i keep offending you


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2015, 10:57:56 PM
just something i thought was funny and thought would fit in on the thread about the tinker man

sorry if i keep offending you

I'm not offended, why would I be?

That joke was made when he became manager many(4/5) months ago.

It was funny then..


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 27, 2015, 01:05:25 PM
 Leicester are serious Premier League title contenders, according to Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal.

The Foxes, who finished 14th last season, are top of the table, one point ahead of second-place United.

They meet on Saturday (17:30 GMT) and when asked if Claudio Ranieri's team could win the league, Van Gaal said: "It is possible, I think."

Van Gaal called Leicester striker Jamie Vardy, the league's 13-goal top scorer, a "nasty" player to face.

Vardy marked his first Premier League start by making four goals and scoring the other as the Foxes beat United 5-3 in September 2014.

The England international, 28, has equalled former United forward Ruud van Nistelrooy's record of scoring in 10 successive Premier League games, and could break it on Saturday.

"He was already a very nasty player for us last year," Van Gaal said of Vardy.

"He scores, he provoked a penalty, now scoring 10 goals in a row, he is a great player. I only know Dennis Bergkamp as a player who did the same with Ajax. It's not so easy to do that."

--

 Foxes boss Ranieri called Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger "a joker" for suggesting that Leicester were title contenders, but Van Gaal thinks they can sustain their form.

"Normally these kind of clubs can compete for long time, then at the end it becomes more difficult," he said, before Saturday's game at the King Power Stadium.

"But in England because of the quality of the teams, because every team has the money to buy players - and they have bought players - the difference in the Premier League between the clubs is not so high."


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 27, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
very good balanced article

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2727313/leicester-city-top-premier-league-table-can-they-stay-there


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Chompy on November 27, 2015, 02:18:05 PM
Impressive numbers. Nothing wrong with being second :)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2015, 12:55:07 PM


Henry Winter has left The Telegraph & joined The Times, & has written a 2 page piece on James Vardy today.

Alongside it, in a sidebar, he looks at where, over the entire history of the EPL, the leaders after 13 games have finished.

1st - 10 times

2nd - 6 times

3rd - 3 times

4th - 2 times

5th - 2 times

6th - 2 times (Newcastle & Aston Villa). 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on November 28, 2015, 01:29:57 PM
Huge buzz in Leicester about the game. Everyone's talking about it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bagel on November 28, 2015, 06:41:48 PM
vardyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2015, 06:44:15 PM


Wonderful, the whole thing has brightened up the EPL season for me, Vardy, Leicester City, Ranieri.


delly ding, delly dong


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on November 28, 2015, 06:45:00 PM


Wonderful, the whole thing has brightened up the EPL season for me, Vardy, Leicester City, Ranieri.






Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bagel on November 28, 2015, 06:48:46 PM
agreed, it really is refreshing to see one of the smaller teams  up there, not just fighting but looking the business.

hope they can keep it up, i think they can.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on November 28, 2015, 06:51:27 PM
Best premier league ever.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 28, 2015, 08:11:35 PM
will take that

usual defensive vulnerability from set pieces, could have won it on the counter with ulloa 3 on 2

mahrez fantastic, wonderful player

on we go


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2015, 08:17:39 PM


You made the mistake of scoring first.

1-1 v Man U? Suppose that'll do.....


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on November 29, 2015, 11:22:26 AM
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Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 30, 2015, 04:59:30 PM
good article

http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/ejnh79njc0aqdhbfdqavgq/Show/Team-Focus-Input-of-Leicester-Support-Cast-Just-as-Vital-as-Vardy-Goals


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on November 30, 2015, 05:05:34 PM
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Is that David Moyes?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 06, 2015, 10:36:46 AM
yesterday

New Leicester PLsequence records for away wins (3), away unbeaten (11), games scoring (16)

Riyad Mahrez cost €500k from Le Havre, is only 24, has 15 in all comps this season and 6 PL assists.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVek_G5WsAAlRy0.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVegQlJWcAAe9fc.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVejqvIWwAA9u1N.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 06, 2015, 02:26:38 PM
Leicester's squad christmas party. today they are drinking in a bar in Copenhagen dressed as turtles

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CViuUwBUsAE-FyF.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVi5Ts9WEAE86zd.png:large)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2015, 09:40:42 AM

New Leicester PLsequence records for away wins (3), away unbeaten (11), games scoring (16)

Riyad Mahrez cost €500k from Le Havre, is only 24, has 15 in all comps this season and 6 PL assists.


Extraordinary.

The going gets a bit tougher the next few weeks, but I doubt any of the EPL elite teams are relishing the prospect of playing Leicester City at the moment.

Who would have forecast they'd be 17 points ahead of Chelsea after 15 games?

What a ride you are having.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 07, 2015, 03:33:48 PM
not a headline i thought i would see

Sir Alex Ferguson urges LCFC to spend in January and go for Premier League title. http://buff.ly/1LYIU9S 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on December 10, 2015, 12:05:13 PM
Leicester winger Riyad Mahrez has dismissed his team's chances of winning the Premier League, despite being top.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35059847

16 years since the team top after 15 games didn't finish in the top 4 (Villa 6th 1999)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 10, 2015, 05:19:43 PM
the importance of N’Golo Kante to Leicester’s PL run this season http://wscrd.co/KanteHero 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 11, 2015, 10:27:13 AM
clean sweep for November

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV7e7fOWEAEY7Xw.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 12, 2015, 10:54:22 AM
Claudio Ranieri, best manager in the Premier League?

http://www.northyardanalytics.com/blog/2015/12/11/claudio-ranieri-best-manager-in-the-premier-league/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2015, 10:38:49 AM
very interesting interview with Riyad Mahrez

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/leicester-city/12048440/Flying-Riyad-Mahrez-coming-to-terms-with-dramatic-ascent-and-comparisons-with-Lionel-Messi.html


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2015, 04:21:15 PM
not behind a paywall

interesting stuff in here on the sports science effort, lack of injuries and chance creation stats

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/football/article4640097.ece


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on December 14, 2015, 04:51:49 PM
not behind a paywall

interesting stuff in here on the sports science effort, lack of injuries and chance creation stats

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/football/article4640097.ece

If Leicester's low count of soft tissue injuries and speedy recoveries can be attributed to their medical team and facilities can Arsenal and United's record in that respect ever be accepted as just bad luck?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
not behind a paywall

interesting stuff in here on the sports science effort, lack of injuries and chance creation stats

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/football/article4640097.ece

If Leicester's low count of soft tissue injuries and speedy recoveries can be attributed to their medical team and facilities can Arsenal and United's record in that respect ever be accepted as just bad luck?

can't speak to other clubs but i know there is a strong school of thought that Arsenals run of injuries is not down to luck

have seen pictures of the leicester training ground and back room resources and it is astonishing how much has been invested into people and medical/physio/sports science kit. whether this is merely playing catch up or we are ahead of the curve, don't know


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on December 14, 2015, 09:37:34 PM
lesta are good to watch, hope they win league


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on December 14, 2015, 10:04:27 PM
Ok, watching the game. Leicester just got themselves another fan.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on December 14, 2015, 10:15:01 PM
Every week their fans must be getting more paranoid over the offers that will be tabled for their players. The season newcastle were right up their their whole team was linked away and not losing a player was alot more important then buying any. Hopefully they keep up there and their players tell the rest of the chokers to get stuffed (well at least to the summer).



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2015, 10:46:13 PM
Boom.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on December 14, 2015, 11:02:33 PM
Good result, Care full of the booking count, Some key players could be missing over Xmas period.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DMorgan on December 14, 2015, 11:05:56 PM
Ok, watching the game. Leicester just got themselves another fan.

A couple of my housemates are Leicester fans and they've been incred to watch this season

How many points clear at the bottom was it around this time last year? Incredible job


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Mahrez.wow. kante is a sensational player too


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ant040689 on December 14, 2015, 11:18:18 PM
On the 36th minute Tighty I nearly fell off of my seat when your premonition of Matic swooping in at the near post from a corner nearly came true  ;D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DMorgan on December 14, 2015, 11:27:14 PM
I wonder how many Leicester fans had a quid at the 5000/1 offered at the start of the season

Have any 5000/1 shot singles actually landed? Obv theres someone that puts a 50p acca on and pings a few grand every weekend. Do even amateur golfers get priced this big in majors?



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on December 14, 2015, 11:30:22 PM
not behind a paywall

interesting stuff in here on the sports science effort, lack of injuries and chance creation stats

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/football/article4640097.ece

If Leicester's low count of soft tissue injuries and speedy recoveries can be attributed to their medical team and facilities can Arsenal and United's record in that respect ever be accepted as just bad luck?

can't speak to other clubs but i know there is a strong school of thought that Arsenals run of injuries is not down to luck

have seen pictures of the leicester training ground and back room resources and it is astonishing how much has been invested into people and medical/physio/sports science kit. whether this is merely playing catch up or we are ahead of the curve, don't know

One red-top journo=strong school of thought.

Same plonker who suggested that Wenger played Alexis against the advice of his medical team when he injured his hammy probably.

You do realise that manure have a few more injuries than Arsenal this season which presumably is also not down to luck either.

Good win tonight btw, enjoyed it enormously.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on December 14, 2015, 11:44:24 PM
The amazing story continues! Well deserved.
The Drinkwater injury might be costly though. And Huth suspended now for the Everton game.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on December 14, 2015, 11:52:37 PM
I wonder how many Leicester fans had a quid at the 5000/1 offered at the start of the season

Have any 5000/1 shot singles actually landed? Obv theres someone that puts a 50p acca on and pings a few grand every weekend. Do even amateur golfers get priced this big in majors?



I tried to get a fiver on but the limit was 0.0000001p

All joking apart I said to her indoors I can't believe Leicester were 2500/1 (I think) at the start of the season. She replied after 15 games played "I can't believe you didn't have a tenner on that!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on December 15, 2015, 12:22:24 AM
I know someone who has a fiver on at 3000/1. Cash out at the moment is just shy of 400 quid


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 15, 2015, 10:25:04 AM
Ok, watching the game. Leicester just got themselves another fan.

A couple of my housemates are Leicester fans and they've been incred to watch this season

How many points clear at the bottom was it around this time last year
? Incredible job

They must have been odds on to get relegated at this time last season, or nearly so?

Has there ever been a bigger turn-round in the space of 12 months?

I wonder where they would have been if Pearson were still in charge? Mr Tinker is immensely likeable, & good luck to him, but Pearson laid very solid foundations, it seems to me, & he deserves some credit.

Anyway, Tighty had better dust off his Passport, ready for next Season's CL. Barcelona first up, please.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2015, 10:36:22 AM
Happy clappers

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWNJsKQWIAAprw9.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2015, 10:36:52 AM
the worst half and half scarf ever?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWM22-aWwAAfEi1.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2015, 10:38:02 AM
£1.35mil for 35 Premier League goals/assists before the end of December

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWNsysbW4AANB71.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWNtFczXIAAX6pR.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWN0MgUW4AAJVHl.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on December 15, 2015, 10:45:03 AM
I know someone who has a fiver on at 3000/1. Cash out at the moment is just shy of 400 quid

£350 charged to cash out.  Incredible the margins in cashing out.  This is probably one of the few examples where cashing out probably makes sense unless you got £15k sitting around in an ISA earning next to nothing then stick it into betfair and lay £750 at 20/1 and get the profit locked in.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2015, 11:41:56 AM
"He's doing things with that left foot that I only see Messi do." Jamie Carragher on Riyad Mahrez

sorry to go on but ;D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 15, 2015, 02:26:14 PM
"He's doing things with that left foot that I only see Messi do." Jamie Carragher on Riyad Mahrez

sorry to go on but ;D

The jury is still out.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on December 15, 2015, 07:40:15 PM
Cryogenics secret is out.

Surely this isn't going to end like Vanilla Sky?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 15, 2015, 07:41:36 PM
Cryogenics secret is out.

Surely this isn't going to end like Vanilla Sky?

i see the cryogenics chamber has been featured on ssnhq

dont understand the reference to vanilla sky though. never seen the film


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on December 15, 2015, 07:45:43 PM
Cryogenics secret is out.

Surely this isn't going to end like Vanilla Sky?

i see the cryogenics chamber has been featured on ssnhq

dont understand the reference to vanilla sky though. never seen the film

Vanilla Sky cliffs(including spoiler):

Penelepe Cruz has outstanding knockers

They jump off a tall building in the finale believing themselves to be immortal.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on December 15, 2015, 11:36:17 PM
^^^^

PS There are cryogenics involved too.

PPS Ms Cruz was more outstanding in the original Spanish version of the movie.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: verndog158 on December 15, 2015, 11:43:43 PM
I wonder how many Leicester fans had a quid at the 5000/1 offered at the start of the season

Have any 5000/1 shot singles actually landed? Obv theres someone that puts a 50p acca on and pings a few grand every weekend. Do even amateur golfers get priced this big in majors?



my old uni boss put a 10er on that i think!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 16, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Riyad Mahrez says he won't be leaving Leicester in January:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-Transfer-News-Riyad-Mahrez-says/story-28377425-detail/story.html

Phew.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on December 16, 2015, 12:52:20 PM
I'd imagine, with all the TV money, that Leicester would be able to turn down any offer someone would be willing to pay for him anyway?No one offers more than 30m and Leicester don't sell for less than that surely?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 16, 2015, 12:58:57 PM
I'd imagine, with all the TV money, that Leicester would be able to turn down any offer someone would be willing to pay for him anyway?No one offers more than 30m and Leicester don't sell for less than that surely?

we have no need to sell

Owned by thai billionaires

new TV deal coming, and so across the league its going to be more difficult to get talent out of middle ranking sides into the top six...the corollary of seeing game changing players now in teams like west ham, stoke, southampton etc

vardy under contract to 2018

mahrez under contract to 2019

now of course if major teams come in and offer big increases in wages, european football etc then that is a challenge.

i think mahrez will go to a barcelona or PSG at the end of the season and we'll get full value.

but the days of a step up from leicester being selling to everton and tottenham, for example, are gone.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on December 16, 2015, 01:07:20 PM
What price do you expect him to go for if he keeps up his current level?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 16, 2015, 01:09:27 PM
What price do you expect him to go for if he keeps up his current level?

He's 24, so anyone buying him can get two contracts out of him

He's on a long term contract

no one is doing what he is doing in the league and you are assuming this continues to the end of the season

£35-40m or else keep him another season (presumably with a pay rise)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on December 16, 2015, 01:12:29 PM
What price do you expect him to go for if he keeps up his current level?

He's 24, so anyone buying him can get two contracts out of him

He's on a long term contract

no one is doing what he is doing in the league and you are assuming this continues to the end of the season

£35-40m or else keep him another season (presumably with a pay rise)


You'll need him for the CL :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 16, 2015, 01:16:03 PM
If you get CL football next season then you'll have a terrific shot at keeping him imo.

The money though, very hard to turn down.

I know someone with £200 at 2000/1 lettttting it riiiidddde :-D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on December 16, 2015, 01:20:48 PM
If Leicester do get CL and England lose a CL spot the transfer market is going to go mental.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 02:01:24 PM
If you get CL football next season then you'll have a terrific shot at keeping him imo.

The money though, very hard to turn down.

I know someone with £200 at 2000/1 lettttting it riiiidddde :-D

Really?  Pre season?  Incredible the characters who love a punt!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 16, 2015, 03:07:02 PM
this chap has got a bit of sweat for this weekend

everton v leicester

then arsenal v man c...could be sweating the draw there

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWV4G3UWcAAygVp.png)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on December 16, 2015, 09:30:30 PM
If you get CL football next season then you'll have a terrific shot at keeping him imo.

The money though, very hard to turn down.

I know someone with £200 at 2000/1 lettttting it riiiidddde :-D

Really?  Pre season?  Incredible the characters who love a punt!

What bookie lays that sort of bet?

Would Floyd Mayweather get that kind of action at the M Resort?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 09:33:44 PM
If you get CL football next season then you'll have a terrific shot at keeping him imo.

The money though, very hard to turn down.

I know someone with £200 at 2000/1 lettttting it riiiidddde :-D

Really?  Pre season?  Incredible the characters who love a punt!

What bookie lays that sort of bet?

Would Floyd Mayweather get that kind of action at the M Resort?

Pretty sure anyone in the world could walk into a lolbrokes shop pre season and get that bet on.  A team that was short single figures to go down.  I might even get that on in my local where i am banned from.  They would probably be 100 times more worried now if you tried to cash it out at the revised odds and they actually do some real cash.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on December 16, 2015, 09:48:42 PM
If you get CL football next season then you'll have a terrific shot at keeping him imo.

The money though, very hard to turn down.

I know someone with £200 at 2000/1 lettttting it riiiidddde :-D

Really?  Pre season?  Incredible the characters who love a punt!

What bookie lays that sort of bet?

Would Floyd Mayweather get that kind of action at the M Resort?

Pretty sure anyone in the world could walk into a lolbrokes shop pre season and get that bet on.  A team that was short single figures to go down.  I might even get that on in my local where i am banned from.  They would probably be 100 times more worried now if you tried to cash it out at the revised odds and they actually do some real cash.

Thought they run on exposure?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on December 16, 2015, 09:51:05 PM
If you get CL football next season then you'll have a terrific shot at keeping him imo.

The money though, very hard to turn down.

I know someone with £200 at 2000/1 lettttting it riiiidddde :-D

Really?  Pre season?  Incredible the characters who love a punt!

What bookie lays that sort of bet?

Would Floyd Mayweather get that kind of action at the M Resort?

Pretty sure anyone in the world could walk into a lolbrokes shop pre season and get that bet on.  A team that was short single figures to go down.  I might even get that on in my local where i am banned from.  They would probably be 100 times more worried now if you tried to cash it out at the revised odds and they actually do some real cash.

Thought they run on exposure?

They do but if you rung up for that bet i would be amazed if you got knocked back by a big 4 chain.  They would consider it £200 towards the xmas party (which it is).  They will probably still win on the market even if they laid Leicester to lose £1m pre season.  Every ante post yankee/lucky 15 would be beat on the first line.  No ante post acca would win either on the leagues.  Virtually every one of these bets would always have a EPL 'banker' selection in it at a short price.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 19, 2015, 05:45:52 PM
Booom. Predictably, we are 5 points clear


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 19, 2015, 05:46:48 PM

Wonderful, another week unbeaten, another win.

Fabulous.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on December 19, 2015, 08:51:52 PM
Top at Christmas. Still take 6th and a cup final over a run at it?!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PathFinder on December 19, 2015, 09:37:09 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03cl1cc (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03cl1cc)

Leicester Fan on 606


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on December 19, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
This really is incredible.  Loving it seeing a mid size team sock it to the big boys!  Got to think champ league spot is a great chance now.  I have an ante post on foxes for fa cup but think they need to tin that.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on December 20, 2015, 07:49:05 AM
This is getting silly now - simply incredible.  Such a brilliant story.

The run of "tough" fixtures starting with Chelsea was supposed to slow the progress down but just powering  through. Fantastic stuff.





Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on December 20, 2015, 10:48:03 AM

Wonderful, another week unbeaten, another win.

Fabulous.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on December 20, 2015, 11:03:46 AM
Watched highlights yesterday - half a season and top - good footie too. Amazing that they have opened up such a chasm between themselves and teams like Man U in terms of talent, skill and entertainment value. Naturally don't want them to win it but would be great if they could remain in the Top 4 for the whole season


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 20, 2015, 11:19:07 AM
home and away games remaining

home games look nice, away games less so

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWnwvgYWsAADFXV.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 20, 2015, 11:22:28 AM
Leicester's last 21 Premier League games: WWDWWWDDWDLWDWWWWDWWW Goals: 47 Conceded: 25

Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWniYKpWUAAblTL.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWnDaUyWEAQJUYf.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWmoHG8WcAA0-u0.png)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 20, 2015, 11:23:49 AM

Leicester's last 21 Premier League games: WWDWWWDDWDLWDWWWWDWWW Goals: 47 Conceded: 25



Astonishing.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 20, 2015, 11:24:37 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 20, 2015, 11:26:12 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


that they counter attack very well and don't need possession to win when they are in such lethal form up front

only one of their 17 games this season we have had more than 40% posession


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on December 20, 2015, 11:35:22 AM
home and away games remaining

home games look nice, away games less so

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWnwvgYWsAADFXV.jpg)

Quite a quirk of the fixture list that is with still the 'top 8' of the EPL all still to play away from home.  I am not sure if you are still ahead of the handicapper or not after yesterday.  5/2+ away at Everton was an interesting price.

Record of 1-2-1 so far against the traditional 'big 6' (all 4 games at home and the win against 'bottom half' chelski) with 8 games still left to play against them.  This is when the lack of possession will/should really start to tell.

Don't want to be a party killer this time of year but they look a sensational lay at 12/1 to win the EPL.

Amazing to watch them for the calender year of 2015 all the same.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 20, 2015, 11:46:20 AM
Top at Christmas. Still take 6th and a cup final over a run at it?!

i would upgrade to take 4th now

drawn tottenham away in the cup, think we'll put a reserve team out three days ahead of playing them same venue in the league


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on December 20, 2015, 05:41:28 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


Surely Tony you're old enough to remember Ali's rope a dope tactic against Foreman :)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on December 20, 2015, 06:34:33 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


Means they are long ball merchants, Tikay.

Was talking with a few regulars down my local on Friday night. Despite us all supporting different teams (City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and......York) we were all in agreement that should our respective clubs fail to win the title, then we wanted Leicester to do it. I imagine this is the case for fans across the country (apart from maybe those in the midlands? Not sure on how deep rivalries go in that neck of the woods)

2nd place play off tomorrow night, gg Leicester.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 21, 2015, 09:00:30 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


Surely Tony you're old enough to remember Ali's rope a dope tactic against Foreman :)



Way before my time, you must be mixing me up with an old bloke.

PS - Hope you & Lady B have a great Christmas.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 21, 2015, 09:07:06 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


Means they are long ball merchants, Tikay.

Was talking with a few regulars down my local on Friday night. Despite us all supporting different teams (City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and......York) we were all in agreement that should our respective clubs fail to win the title, then we wanted Leicester to do it. I imagine this is the case for fans across the country (apart from maybe those in the midlands? Not sure on how deep rivalries go in that neck of the woods)

2nd place play off tomorrow night, gg Leicester.

Well I'm not a football expert, but "long ball merchants" is a derogatory term associated with "hoof it upfield"is it not?

I get the impression it is more a case of fast & incisive breaks, with none of the tippy tappy stuff we usually see associated with the world's most skilful teams, such as Barcelona & Arsenal.

Have to agree with the other point though - all neutrals seem to be rooting for Leicester.

What with Watford (4 on the spin now) & Lord Pardew's Palace miracles (Palace in 6trh place, incred) , it's been one of the most enjoyable EPL seasons I can ever remember. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 21, 2015, 04:59:18 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


that they counter attack very well and don't need possession to win when they are in such lethal form up front

only one of their 17 games this season we have had more than 40% posession

That is an amazing stat.

Which game was it? Because i think there will be a very good chance it was first game of the season against us!!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on December 21, 2015, 06:38:29 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


Surely Tony you're old enough to remember Ali's rope a dope tactic against Foreman :)



Way before my time, you must be mixing me up with an old bloke.

PS - Hope you & Lady B have a great Christmas.


Ty Tony - you too my friend



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Cf on December 21, 2015, 10:52:07 PM
Lord Pardew? Seriously?

Just pray he's never near a team you support.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2015, 10:56:11 PM
Pardew doing a magnificent job at palace.great at Newcastle. Should be next Chelsea manager but won't be


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on December 21, 2015, 11:02:49 PM
Pardew doing a magnificent job at palace.great at Newcastle. Should be next Chelsea manager but won't be


Let's not get carried away. Would you have him as your manager if Ranieri had to be replaced tomorrow?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2015, 11:08:47 PM
Yes I think so.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 21, 2015, 11:12:46 PM

He's welcome at the Swans, I'd rather Bielsa but other than that Pardew would be fine with me.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on December 22, 2015, 01:29:37 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


Means they are long ball merchants, Tikay.

Was talking with a few regulars down my local on Friday night. Despite us all supporting different teams (City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and......York) we were all in agreement that should our respective clubs fail to win the title, then we wanted Leicester to do it. I imagine this is the case for fans across the country (apart from maybe those in the midlands? Not sure on how deep rivalries go in that neck of the woods)

2nd place play off tomorrow night, gg Leicester.

Well I'm not a football expert, but "long ball merchants" is a derogatory term associated with "hoof it upfield"is it not?

I get the impression it is more a case of fast & incisive breaks, with none of the tippy tappy stuff we usually see associated with the world's most skilful teams, such as Barcelona & Arsenal.

Have to agree with the other point though - all neutrals seem to be rooting for Leicester.

What with Watford (4 on the spin now) & Lord Pardew's Palace miracles (Palace in 6trh place, incred) , it's been one of the most enjoyable EPL seasons I can ever remember. 

Was tongue in cheek Tony, thought you of all of people might realise that! :)

Dreading going there on the 29th, our away record is dog shit and don't see it turning any time soon with trips to Leicester and Watford on the horizon.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 22, 2015, 01:31:20 AM
Can't wait for King Pards to get the England job, win the world cup (bringing himself on after 70 min's in the final when 1-0 down and scoring twice to win 2-1) and the toon fans still shrug their shoulders.

Shola Ameobi is the only person to ever leave Newcastle and not be berated by the fans for years to come.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on December 22, 2015, 01:43:37 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


that they counter attack very well and don't need possession to win when they are in such lethal form up front

only one of their 17 games this season we have had more than 40% posession

That is an amazing stat.

Which game was it? Because i think there will be a very good chance it was first game of the season against us!!

The stat is wrong. It should be 1 game more than 50%. The point still holds tho - they are always still down on possession


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 22, 2015, 08:01:27 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this tell us about Leicester?



Leicester completed just 168 passes yesterday, fewer than any other PL side


Means they are long ball merchants, Tikay.

Was talking with a few regulars down my local on Friday night. Despite us all supporting different teams (City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and......York) we were all in agreement that should our respective clubs fail to win the title, then we wanted Leicester to do it. I imagine this is the case for fans across the country (apart from maybe those in the midlands? Not sure on how deep rivalries go in that neck of the woods)

2nd place play off tomorrow night, gg Leicester.

Well I'm not a football expert, but "long ball merchants" is a derogatory term associated with "hoof it upfield"is it not?

I get the impression it is more a case of fast & incisive breaks, with none of the tippy tappy stuff we usually see associated with the world's most skilful teams, such as Barcelona & Arsenal.

Have to agree with the other point though - all neutrals seem to be rooting for Leicester.

What with Watford (4 on the spin now) & Lord Pardew's Palace miracles (Palace in 6trh place, incred) , it's been one of the most enjoyable EPL seasons I can ever remember. 

Was tongue in cheek Tony, thought you of all of people might realise that! :)

Dreading going there on the 29th, our away record is dog shit and don't see it turning any time soon with trips to Leicester and Watford on the horizon.


Bugger. I say, BUGGER, I got whooshed  I'm so naïve these days. WP Percy Plump, WP.

I'm calling it a score-draw though, as I got "Lord Pardew" through, & poor old CF walked right into it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 22, 2015, 08:04:40 AM
Can't wait for King Pards to get the England job, win the world cup (bringing himself on after 70 min's in the final when 1-0 down and scoring twice to win 2-1) and the toon fans still shrug their shoulders.

Shola Ameobi is the only person to ever leave Newcastle and not be berated by the fans for years to come.

You might just be the greatest.

Newcastle fans are certainly.....well, not to be rude, a little hard to fathom.

I wonder if it's all for show, & secretly, many wish Pardew was still there? Logically - logically - they should.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Cf on December 22, 2015, 10:04:14 AM
Can't wait for King Pards to get the England job, win the world cup (bringing himself on after 70 min's in the final when 1-0 down and scoring twice to win 2-1) and the toon fans still shrug their shoulders.

Shola Ameobi is the only person to ever leave Newcastle and not be berated by the fans for years to come.

You might just be the greatest.

Newcastle fans are certainly.....well, not to be rude, a little hard to fathom.

I wonder if it's all for show, & secretly, many wish Pardew was still there? Logically - logically - they should.

I'm going to bite one last time :)

Firstly the "Newcastle fans..." line trotted out by many is just so so lazy. Newcastle fans are the same as any others - there's a range of opinions. Naturally the ones most heard are the ones the media select to fit with their delusional geordies line but it is by no means representative.

Why should we logically want Pardew back? Ignoring how he may currently be doing at Crystal Palace he did awfully at Newcastle. Yes he finished 5th. We get it. He finished 5th. Maybe he'll do it again at Palace. So what? The season after he almost got us relegated. Just before he left in the club in a decent state supposedly. I don't call relegation form over the previous 38 games a good state. That was also failing to score in 19 of them. But Pardew is very good at rewriting history. The scoreless games didn't happen. How could they with Alan's front foot attacking football?

West Ham got rid. Charlton got rid and Southampton got rid. I doubt any would want him back. Maybe he's found his calling at Palace? But as someone who saw first hand what happened at Newcastle and apparently happened before he's gone into a new job and everything has just clicked for him. Just wait until Cabaye, Zaha etc get injured and he starts to come under some pressure. There's no plan B, he'll revert to type of keep it tight and hope for that little bit of magic and I don't doubt before long it'll all come crumbling down.

And if they don't get injured expect the attacking flair players to be thrown under the bus when results aren't going his way. He's good at that.

Not to mention the headbutting off opposition players, calling managers c*nts in front of the TV cameras, pushing over linesmen and overall massive ego and lack of any class whatsoever.

People would actually want this man at their club? You're mad!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 22, 2015, 10:20:09 AM
Can't wait for King Pards to get the England job, win the world cup (bringing himself on after 70 min's in the final when 1-0 down and scoring twice to win 2-1) and the toon fans still shrug their shoulders.

Shola Ameobi is the only person to ever leave Newcastle and not be berated by the fans for years to come.

You might just be the greatest.

Newcastle fans are certainly.....well, not to be rude, a little hard to fathom.

I wonder if it's all for show, & secretly, many wish Pardew was still there? Logically - logically - they should.

I'm going to bite one last time :)

Firstly the "Newcastle fans..." line trotted out by many is just so so lazy. Newcastle fans are the same as any others - there's a range of opinions. Naturally the ones most heard are the ones the media select to fit with their delusional geordies line but it is by no means representative.

Why should we logically want Pardew back? Ignoring how he may currently be doing at Crystal Palace he did awfully at Newcastle. Yes he finished 5th. We get it. He finished 5th. Maybe he'll do it again at Palace. So what? The season after he almost got us relegated. Just before he left in the club in a decent state supposedly. I don't call relegation form over the previous 38 games a good state. That was also failing to score in 19 of them. But Pardew is very good at rewriting history. The scoreless games didn't happen. How could they with Alan's front foot attacking football?

West Ham got rid. Charlton got rid and Southampton got rid. I doubt any would want him back. Maybe he's found his calling at Palace? But as someone who saw first hand what happened at Newcastle and apparently happened before he's gone into a new job and everything has just clicked for him. Just wait until Cabaye, Zaha etc get injured and he starts to come under some pressure. There's no plan B, he'll revert to type of keep it tight and hope for that little bit of magic and I don't doubt before long it'll all come crumbling down.

And if they don't get injured expect the attacking flair players to be thrown under the bus when results aren't going his way. He's good at that.

Not to mention the headbutting off opposition players, calling managers c*nts in front of the TV cameras, pushing over linesmen and overall massive ego and lack of any class whatsoever.

People would actually want this man at their club? You're mad!


I'm "mad" because I happen to have a different opinion to you?

And there you have it.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Cf on December 22, 2015, 10:31:55 AM
Can't wait for King Pards to get the England job, win the world cup (bringing himself on after 70 min's in the final when 1-0 down and scoring twice to win 2-1) and the toon fans still shrug their shoulders.

Shola Ameobi is the only person to ever leave Newcastle and not be berated by the fans for years to come.

You might just be the greatest.

Newcastle fans are certainly.....well, not to be rude, a little hard to fathom.

I wonder if it's all for show, & secretly, many wish Pardew was still there? Logically - logically - they should.

I'm going to bite one last time :)

Firstly the "Newcastle fans..." line trotted out by many is just so so lazy. Newcastle fans are the same as any others - there's a range of opinions. Naturally the ones most heard are the ones the media select to fit with their delusional geordies line but it is by no means representative.

Why should we logically want Pardew back? Ignoring how he may currently be doing at Crystal Palace he did awfully at Newcastle. Yes he finished 5th. We get it. He finished 5th. Maybe he'll do it again at Palace. So what? The season after he almost got us relegated. Just before he left in the club in a decent state supposedly. I don't call relegation form over the previous 38 games a good state. That was also failing to score in 19 of them. But Pardew is very good at rewriting history. The scoreless games didn't happen. How could they with Alan's front foot attacking football?

West Ham got rid. Charlton got rid and Southampton got rid. I doubt any would want him back. Maybe he's found his calling at Palace? But as someone who saw first hand what happened at Newcastle and apparently happened before he's gone into a new job and everything has just clicked for him. Just wait until Cabaye, Zaha etc get injured and he starts to come under some pressure. There's no plan B, he'll revert to type of keep it tight and hope for that little bit of magic and I don't doubt before long it'll all come crumbling down.

And if they don't get injured expect the attacking flair players to be thrown under the bus when results aren't going his way. He's good at that.

Not to mention the headbutting off opposition players, calling managers c*nts in front of the TV cameras, pushing over linesmen and overall massive ego and lack of any class whatsoever.

People would actually want this man at their club? You're mad!


I'm "mad" because I happen to have a different opinion to you?

And there you have it.



There you have what? It's just an expression. Way to ignore anything else that might have been said in the post above. Was there anything in it you disagree with?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 22, 2015, 11:02:11 AM
Can't wait for King Pards to get the England job, win the world cup (bringing himself on after 70 min's in the final when 1-0 down and scoring twice to win 2-1) and the toon fans still shrug their shoulders.

Shola Ameobi is the only person to ever leave Newcastle and not be berated by the fans for years to come.

You might just be the greatest.

Newcastle fans are certainly.....well, not to be rude, a little hard to fathom.

I wonder if it's all for show, & secretly, many wish Pardew was still there? Logically - logically - they should.

I'm going to bite one last time :)

Firstly the "Newcastle fans..." line trotted out by many is just so so lazy. Newcastle fans are the same as any others - there's a range of opinions. Naturally the ones most heard are the ones the media select to fit with their delusional geordies line but it is by no means representative.

Why should we logically want Pardew back? Ignoring how he may currently be doing at Crystal Palace he did awfully at Newcastle. Yes he finished 5th. We get it. He finished 5th. Maybe he'll do it again at Palace. So what? The season after he almost got us relegated. Just before he left in the club in a decent state supposedly. I don't call relegation form over the previous 38 games a good state. That was also failing to score in 19 of them. But Pardew is very good at rewriting history. The scoreless games didn't happen. How could they with Alan's front foot attacking football?

West Ham got rid. Charlton got rid and Southampton got rid. I doubt any would want him back. Maybe he's found his calling at Palace? But as someone who saw first hand what happened at Newcastle and apparently happened before he's gone into a new job and everything has just clicked for him. Just wait until Cabaye, Zaha etc get injured and he starts to come under some pressure. There's no plan B, he'll revert to type of keep it tight and hope for that little bit of magic and I don't doubt before long it'll all come crumbling down.

And if they don't get injured expect the attacking flair players to be thrown under the bus when results aren't going his way. He's good at that.

Not to mention the headbutting off opposition players, calling managers c*nts in front of the TV cameras, pushing over linesmen and overall massive ego and lack of any class whatsoever.

People would actually want this man at their club? You're mad!

When I say "Newcastle Fans" (actually I say toon fans) I probably have a less biased point of view than some others as I am from Newcastle and have lived in the West End for my 25 years. And the majority of toon fans i know, certainly my friends, are incredibly realistic and don't expect the world. They expect the players to give 100% on the pitch and to be friendly and approachable off the pitch. There is still the odd tit who relives the mid 90's and the great Alan Shearer days and that unforgettable night when Lord Shola of Fenham single handedly took apart the mighty Barcelona. And unfortunately, it's these lads that get on Skysports just after they've stumbled out of the Newcastle Labour Club.

I personally think football management these days in the premier league is just a whoooooooooooooooooole load of luck. But I'd rather be lucky than good. #KingPards





Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on December 22, 2015, 11:12:50 AM
Isn't there a Newcastle thread for this kind of nonsense?

Us Leicester fans only want positive stuff in here!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 22, 2015, 11:18:19 AM
Isn't there a Newcastle thread for this kind of nonsense?

Us Leicester fans only want positive stuff in here!

Apologies.

I'm Leicester through and through myself.

Just didn't think there was much point in this thread as we all know their gonna piss the league anyways?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on December 22, 2015, 11:25:53 AM
:)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on December 22, 2015, 11:26:09 AM
One thing worth remembering about Pardew is that he was virtually on the managerial scrapheap, having been shown the door by League One Southampton, before Ashley brought him back in from the cold in what was very much a surprise appointment at the time.

Not a fan of him as a person but has definitely done a great job at Palace.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on December 22, 2015, 08:28:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/duvBUuj.png)

There's running good then there's running good.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 22, 2015, 08:38:50 PM
the image shows that we are nearly 9 points better than "expectation" on the basis of goals for/against

undoubtedly, with vardy and mahrez scoring 28 goals we've converted chances at a crazy rate

its only reasonable to expect some regression to the mean, even without injuries to key players

that said, no team has got to grips with us on the counter, no team has got to grips with Kante winning the ball and quickly transitioning us from defence to attack.

Everton got closest but still conceded two penalties, the second after Kante won the ball, fed it to mahrez and vardy made the run in behind

again its only reasonable to expect teams to work out how to stop us but a very successful season it is whatever happens from here 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 22, 2015, 08:40:55 PM
furthermore our record this season on games decided by one goal wins or less (ie draws) is 8-5-0

again, unsustainable but indicative of a certain spirit and skill in winning the close ones....


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on December 22, 2015, 10:18:24 PM
Funny to think that even if Villa were running 5 points above EV, they'd still be in the relegation places. What a terrible squad they've accrued.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 23, 2015, 12:59:05 PM
(http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/A366/production/_87303814_conversion_leic.png)

Leicester City: Why Premier League title dream is possible

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35102187


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Cf on December 23, 2015, 02:56:45 PM
5th in the league! Get in!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 24, 2015, 10:17:36 AM
(http://www.sportingintelligence.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Value-in-PL-17-games.jpg)

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2015/12/24/festive-front-running-foxes-fancied-for-top-three-but-villa-doomed-241201


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 26, 2015, 05:43:47 PM
deservedly beaten today though we could have equalised at the end

interesting, one of the first teams to set out to stop us. can doubled up on mahrez with moreno

manchester city next, and vardy took a knock today.

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on December 26, 2015, 05:48:25 PM
Sinker on


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 26, 2015, 05:50:04 PM
First away loss in the league since March

all good, and will be so even if it tails away further  :-)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2015, 05:57:24 PM
First away loss in the league since March

all good, and will be so even if it tails away further  :-)

Wenger will make sure that plenty of his firm take knocks, so it should be alright.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 29, 2015, 05:01:54 PM


Both Vardy & Mahrez are fit to play tonight.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 29, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
Good point that. Set up more conservatively, missed the best chance of the match. 39 points.onwards


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nuros on December 29, 2015, 10:56:03 PM
Bookeis must've made a killing with that result!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
When Leicester City’s ewoks stood up to Man City’s Death Star

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/29/leicester-ewoks-and-manchester-city-death-star?CMP=share_btn_tw


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2015, 11:25:26 AM
Leicester have done more to promote PL than 100 PR companies,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/leicester-city/12073500/Leicester-City-0-Manchester-City-0-Foxes-have-done-more-to-promote-Premier-League-than-a-hundred-PR-companies.html


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2015, 11:26:16 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXbKzy0W8AAFNNm.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on December 30, 2015, 12:33:53 PM
How much is Vardy on currently?  Assume he is on the same contract he was on when he signed for £1m.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2015, 12:39:35 PM
How much is Vardy on currently?  Assume he is on the same contract he was on when he signed for £1m.

signed a new contract last year through to end 18

about £35k a week, currently negotiating double that with the club. Which he should get


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on December 30, 2015, 12:41:00 PM
Vardy was very much absent last night, didn't look fit at all.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2015, 01:00:12 PM
Vardy was very much absent last night, didn't look fit at all.

missed the best chance of the night.

played on his own up front. we sacrificed something going forward to play the extra holding midfielder. which was understandable but did leave him isolated on the break, he normally has players breaking in support


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 30, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
surely it would be madness for a)anyone to come in with huge money for Vardy and b) for him to go anywhere this january.

The summer,at 29...going to be really hard for him to turn down big money at a club with tons of money


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2015, 01:55:22 PM
Mahrez, at 24, should absolutely be a big target for huge clubs. going to get two contracts out of him if you sign him.

Vardy is a more complicated one because of

a) his age. you sign him and at the end of his first contract he's 32-33

b) his style. team is set up to play to his strengths on the counter (playing him in behind) and possession based teams don't do that, strikers more often get the ball with back to goal, defenders around them etc. Thats not his bag as much

i think, given his huge desire to get into the euro 2016 squad, that staying for a team set up to create chances for him makes sense for now

in the summer, we would be sensible to cash in given his age and he probably should too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him a disappointment at his next club though


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on December 31, 2015, 08:00:00 AM
Vardy was very much absent last night, didn't look fit at all.

missed the best chance of the night.

played on his own up front. we sacrificed something going forward to play the extra holding midfielder. which was understandable but did leave him isolated on the break, he normally has players breaking in support

Is that the first time that Ranieri has adopted a more pragmatic & conservative approach?

Anyway, I guess you'd have bitten my hand off 4 games ago if I had offered you 7 points from the games against Man C, Liverpool, Everton & Chelsea?

Does the fixture list get a little less testing now?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: baldock92 on December 31, 2015, 10:11:29 AM
Not able to watch as much live football as a month or 2 ago- do Leicester show any signs of burning out at all? Or is this team the real deal in that they can keep it up through a 38 game PL season and still compete for the title or top 4? Never been a fan of Leicester but really bloody hope you can do it to stir things up a bit!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2015, 10:21:12 AM
Vardy was very much absent last night, didn't look fit at all.

missed the best chance of the night.

played on his own up front. we sacrificed something going forward to play the extra holding midfielder. which was understandable but did leave him isolated on the break, he normally has players breaking in support

Is that the first time that Ranieri has adopted a more pragmatic & conservative approach?

Anyway, I guess you'd have bitten my hand off 4 games ago if I had offered you 7 points from the games against Man C, Liverpool, Everton & Chelsea?

Does the fixture list get a little less testing now?

this was the first time he tinkered formation. suppose you could argue a point against man c means it was a success

fixture list. a lot of bottom half teams at home, but tottenham, arsenal and man c away in jan-feb. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2015, 10:23:05 AM
Not able to watch as much live football as a month or 2 ago- do Leicester show any signs of burning out at all? Or is this team the real deal in that they can keep it up through a 38 game PL season and still compete for the title or top 4? Never been a fan of Leicester but really bloody hope you can do it to stir things up a bit!

we don't know that yet

there is the january transfer window to get through, and we've been very lucky that the key players have been able to play every game

i would say we are clearly not as strong as arsenal, man u and tottenham either in terms of starting xi or squad but teams like chelsea and man u underperforming gives us a crack at 4th-6th


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2015, 01:17:32 PM
a year ago

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXjXyQQWYAAvS1D.png)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 31, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
By God them were the glory days, 14th position!!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 03, 2016, 12:03:44 PM

Views on yesterday's effort, Tighty?

Bit of a bad spell the last 3 games, hope they can rediscover their touch. Was bound to happen I suppose, but now we'll see their character.

Spurs away, in the Cup, next Saturday. Must be a bit of a dilemma whether to play a full strength team, but I hope they do.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2016, 12:09:09 PM
We will definitely play a squad team in the cup game at Spurs. heavily rotate. we have Spurs away in the league three days later and that will be the priority.

yesterday was the first game that the key players looked a bit leggy. missed a penalty, vardy missed a one on one and either get scored and the narrative is different.

teams are also beginning to adjust tactics against us. two on Mahrez when he gets the ball, defend deeper against the counter

still 40 points already, hoping to end with 65+ and in the league for the new TV deal bonanza next year.

Its all good


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bergeroo on January 03, 2016, 02:16:35 PM
Gray for 3.75m if that's the price is a steal imo (maybe you even bid more in the summer). He is still very raw - but even if it doesn't work out I would say you would be able to resell him for almost all of that. He has bags of potential, if he gets a bit stronger and develops more end product he could be an excellent player and fit into your system well. I have no idea why we would have written a release clause so low into his contract. Absolute madness and again Birmingham are selling their best youth products for peanuts (eg Butland, Redmond).

Sad to see him go but inevitable I suppose as we are now a 100% selling club. Would love him on loan for the rest of the season but it would seem to make sense for Leicester to keep him in case of injuries and perhaps as an inpact sub.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2016, 02:20:38 PM
had a medical yesterday

word is loaned back to the summer

scored a scorcher against us in pre-season and obvioulsy we have an eye on pace and his age there shouldnt be much downside

--

we also just got Ben Chilwell back from loan at Huddersfield. hope we can keep him for a couple of seasons. going to be a top class left back


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on January 03, 2016, 05:07:31 PM
a year ago

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXjXyQQWYAAvS1D.png)

wow.

you were down a year ago.

no way back, sure fire, down.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: redsimon on January 03, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
They were 4 points off safety , don't exaggerate :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on January 03, 2016, 08:32:41 PM
not merely 4 points of safety.

being rock bottom and 4 points off safety and at christmas AND being newly promoted AND being called leicester city is pretty much a nap for relagation. [and managed by someone named nigel, no less].

are we sure they didnt actually get relegated?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2016, 08:44:51 PM
What hope have villa got then!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on January 03, 2016, 09:19:46 PM
their manager has a sexy name though...


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on January 03, 2016, 09:55:05 PM
Vardy to undergo minor surgery . Expected to be out for a couple of weeks.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/35218678


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on January 03, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
I'm sure he'll be chomping at the bit after a few cryogenic sessions.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2016, 10:07:16 PM
Timed to catch fa cup weekend and miss no league time


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2016, 06:41:18 PM
didnt really want the replay but a draw will do i suppose

cracking body swerve and step over for okazaki for the second goal

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYYG4wIWYAAPuDl.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: baldock92 on January 12, 2016, 04:32:55 AM
Any idea whether Vardy will start this weekend? Sorting my fantasy football team out and I don't want him in the team if he only comes on in the 84th minute and gets a yellow card


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: baldock92 on January 12, 2016, 01:13:44 PM
^ didn't mean this weekend, meant for the midweek games


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 12, 2016, 01:18:45 PM
Vardy had a groin op last monday

he warmed up yesterday but did not train

in his pre game press conference yesterday ranieri said he was 50-50 for wednesday, and was going to assess how he trained this morning

they'll play him if they possibly can but

a) 90 mins must be unlikely
b) so much of his game is chasing in behind, and not sure he'll be 100%
c) and its the spurs parsimonius defence


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: baldock92 on January 12, 2016, 02:35:02 PM
Thanks tighty, will shift him to the bench and bring Barkley in


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 13, 2016, 10:48:03 PM
What a win that is. Joint top and seven points ahead of fourth!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 14, 2016, 12:04:43 AM
Gan on the lads!!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on January 14, 2016, 12:10:40 AM
What a win that is. Joint top and seven points ahead of fourth!

And more importantly, 8 pts ahead of 5th.
You've gone from the best attack in the league to the best defence in the league!
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/lma-manager-of-the-year


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on January 14, 2016, 12:16:53 AM
What a win that is. Joint top and seven points ahead of fourth!

LOL @ "joint top", whatever happened to goal-difference?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 14, 2016, 12:34:52 AM
That is a a monster win for Leics tonight with the other results this midweek.  Still think Stoke will finish above Leics.  What price 2 out of Leics, Stoke and/or West Ham finish in the top 4?  That would really be amazing to totally smash up the traditional big 4 champions league monopoly.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 14, 2016, 10:57:32 AM
i don't want to bet on it, but stoke finish above leicester, from 11 points behind now?

not a scooby

here is caley's final projection

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYoy5MmWAAQA--V.png)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 14, 2016, 10:57:52 AM
Jamie Vardy had been unable to train for a month with groin injury. http://buff.ly/1OQ1Aiq 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on January 14, 2016, 12:42:15 PM
Took my son to the game last night. Continuing the theme of kids thinking football started in 1992 it was fun to see his reaction to White Hart Lane - the steep seating, the leg room only suitable for amputees, the exit routes that must give health & safety kittens. In his limited experience of WHL, KP, Madjeski and Wembley this was definitely the loudest he'd been to.

Spurs battered them all night, think it was 16 corners in the end. Vardy and Mahrez were both invisible all night, Schmichael's distribution was poor.

We were sat with my Spurs supporting mate in their end, after 60 minutes I said Leicester were going to nick this with a goal in the 84th minute.  [  ]  Bet on it too.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 14, 2016, 12:44:26 PM
vardy is not fit and mahrez, teams are adapting to the threat. watch teams stick two on him, has happened for the past few weeks

winning at a tough place when not really able to impose your style? great stuff

drinkwater was brilliant i thought. if he was playing for united, would be an england regular.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Knottikay on January 14, 2016, 01:12:19 PM


I wish Stoke still had Huth alongside Shawcross. Good signing for Leicester? All the attention has been on Vardy & your manager this season (and rightly so), but who are you top 5 for your team this season? What signings (if any) would you like in the transfer window?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 14, 2016, 01:14:18 PM


I wish Stoke still had Huth alongside Shawcross. Good signing for Leicester? All the attention has been on Vardy & your manager this season (and rightly so), but who are you top 5 for your team this season? What signings (if any) would you like in the transfer window?

Hard to believe how good Stoke would be if they still had Huth and had Shawcross fit all season.  We got 3 red cards and 0 points from 2 games against WBA as well who most seasons are usually a weighed in 6 points.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 14, 2016, 01:35:11 PM


I wish Stoke still had Huth alongside Shawcross. Good signing for Leicester? All the attention has been on Vardy & your manager this season (and rightly so), but who are you top 5 for your team this season? What signings (if any) would you like in the transfer window?

Huth has been a fantastic signing, our results turned from the minute he signed on loan last season, as the silly conceded goals stopped

He has transformed Wes Morgan next to him though, never thought Wes was more than a championship centre-half but he is superb this season

apart from Vardy and Mahrez

- Kante is different gravy. £5.5m, most interceptions in the league, an unbelievable engine, good on the counter. our best signing for a long long time.

- Fuchs from Schalke. Austrian national captain. great at corners and free kicks, proper defender too. real leader in the squad.  his no look pass/assist on the counter for vardys record breaking goal against united was one of the moments of the season

- Schmeichel, one of the best keepers in the league. the odd wtf moment, but top class. another leader

- Albrighton, villa released him two years ago. a real threat for assists but up and down the left flank he offers great help defensively

- drinkwater. completely under-rated player in central midfield. picks a pass, gets his foot in, organises well. come on again this season in a better team


really the only signing that hasn't come off is kramaric, really high strike rate by steve walsh and team. kramaric didn't start too well and needs a run of games that he isn't going to get

signings.

would like another striker to upgrade ulloa, target man maybe. some protection for if vardy and mahrez suffer injuries so maybe a striker 

that apart, save money for the summer window when we know what we are competing in next year. the new tv deal and our finishing position this year means we are going to be in the market for more talent and to upgrade further


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on January 14, 2016, 04:07:20 PM


Love this on the Leicester forum


(http://i63.tinypic.com/29mnigp.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 14, 2016, 05:25:49 PM
What is the 'huth chant' at leics?  hutttttttttttttttth there it is huttttttttttttth there it is?  like it was at stoke or a different one?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 14, 2016, 05:28:23 PM
What is the 'huth chant' at leics?  hutttttttttttttttth there it is huttttttttttttth there it is?  like it was at stoke or a different one?

different one

huuuuuuuuuuuuuthh

very creative.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on January 14, 2016, 07:25:59 PM


Tbh when they started the Kante/Mahrez chant last night I thought I flicked on to the darts!!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 14, 2016, 07:32:03 PM


Tbh when they started the Kante/Mahrez chant last night I thought I flicked on to the darts!!



Kolo/yaya style?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 14, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
clears throat

"ngolo, ngolo, ngolo, ngolo, ngolo, riyad mahrez"


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on January 14, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
Very unoriginal but after his fifth or sixth goal kick went straight out for a throw in, 'you're just a shit Peter Schmeichel' made me smile.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on January 14, 2016, 07:56:34 PM


Tbh when they started the Kante/Mahrez chant last night I thought I flicked on to the darts!!



Kolo/yaya style?

Yup


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 14, 2016, 08:00:08 PM


Tbh when they started the Kante/Mahrez chant last night I thought I flicked on to the darts!!



Kolo/yaya style?

Yup

Funny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Knottikay on January 15, 2016, 01:29:28 PM


I wish Stoke still had Huth alongside Shawcross. Good signing for Leicester? All the attention has been on Vardy & your manager this season (and rightly so), but who are you top 5 for your team this season? What signings (if any) would you like in the transfer window?

Huth has been a fantastic signing, our results turned from the minute he signed on loan last season, as the silly conceded goals stopped

He has transformed Wes Morgan next to him though, never thought Wes was more than a championship centre-half but he is superb this season

apart from Vardy and Mahrez

- Kante is different gravy. £5.5m, most interceptions in the league, an unbelievable engine, good on the counter. our best signing for a long long time.

- Fuchs from Schalke. Austrian national captain. great at corners and free kicks, proper defender too. real leader in the squad.  his no look pass/assist on the counter for vardys record breaking goal against united was one of the moments of the season

- Schmeichel, one of the best keepers in the league. the odd wtf moment, but top class. another leader

- Albrighton, villa released him two years ago. a real threat for assists but up and down the left flank he offers great help defensively

- drinkwater. completely under-rated player in central midfield. picks a pass, gets his foot in, organises well. come on again this season in a better team


really the only signing that hasn't come off is kramaric, really high strike rate by steve walsh and team. kramaric didn't start too well and needs a run of games that he isn't going to get

signings.

would like another striker to upgrade ulloa, target man maybe. some protection for if vardy and mahrez suffer injuries so maybe a striker 

that apart, save money for the summer window when we know what we are competing in next year. the new tv deal and our finishing position this year means we are going to be in the market for more talent and to upgrade further

Agree with you on the Schmeichel & Albrighton lines. Dont really know the others but take your word for it.

I think Crouch might be on the move this transfer window. Maybe Leicester could step in for him if a short term deal could be worked out. I have a feeling he will go Palace or West Brom though.

The TV money is not to be sniffed at. I think this is so much help for the teams outside the 'big 4 or 5'.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 15, 2016, 01:34:26 PM
the tv money in the PL is shallow, everyone gets a lot of the pot compared to some european leagues

as the pot is now so big it raises all ships. we can buy players who we could never have dreamed of getting

stoke can get afellay, shaqiri etc

every L club is in the top 30 richest in europe

apart from barca, madrid, psg etc the super clubs even leicester, stoke, west ham etc are competitiive in the transfer market against anyone else

this is why the liiverpools etc are going to have to overpay for talent, they are competitng against 20 clubs in england not 3 or 4 for these guys


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 15, 2016, 01:43:51 PM

Might have asked you before, Tighty, but just how good is Ranieri?

He does this "bumbling fool" act, but I suspect he's pretty shrewd tactically.

The rest of the League have had time to suss his tactics now,. but he's still able to get results.

Those 2 results at WHL should not be under-estimated, Spurs are well organised these days & a very fine team. There were some grumbles from one of the Spurs players, "hit & chase, bla bla", but what strikes me is the team spirit, they all give their best & play for each other. It sort of reminds me of Clough's first Derby Team, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Don't see any prima donnas there, either. Can you imagine, say, Ballotelli there?   


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 15, 2016, 01:48:13 PM
very shrewd tactically, especially within games. on several occasions his changes of formation/substitutions have changed games

when he joined he brought in an italian assistant but very cleverly i thought left the pearson team intact. really helped make sure last season's finish wasn't wasted by "starting again"

he knows we don't have the quality to dominate possession, so he really ramped up in tactics and incoming transfers our ability to transition quickly from back to front.

the pace in the team, and kante's ability to interrupt opponent's attacks, is the key variable


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 15, 2016, 01:51:09 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35322127


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 15, 2016, 01:54:08 PM


Incidentally, they enjoyed a nice piece of good fortune this week, Huth scoring in the 83rd minute, & Arsenal conceding in the 90th minute produced quite a swing.

It all evens out in the end though.

Best EPL season in recent years, not even close. If the quality has declined, & maybe it has, that would not bother me.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on January 15, 2016, 01:57:30 PM

Might have asked you before, Tighty, but just how good is Ranieri?

He does this "bumbling fool" act, but I suspect he's pretty shrewd tactically.

The rest of the League have had time to suss his tactics now,. but he's still able to get results.

Those 2 results at WHL should not be under-estimated, Spurs are well organised these days & a very fine team. There were some grumbles from one of the Spurs players, "hit & chase, bla bla", but what strikes me is the team spirit, they all give their best & play for each other. It sort of reminds me of Clough's first Derby Team, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Don't see any prima donnas there, either. Can you imagine, say, Ballotelli there?   

Vertonghan came over as very sour grapes.  I loved that result as for the first time I'm confident they can make top 4 and spice the league up a bit.  Would love it if someone else could as well.  Stoke.  Even Spurs I guess.

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 16, 2016, 10:49:07 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY1J4CYVAAE0m3i.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on January 16, 2016, 12:42:27 PM


Chelsea want to bring former manager Claudio Ranieri back to the club, according to reports.

Italian newspaper Tuttosport claim owner Roman Abramovich is considering swooping for the Leicester coach in the summer after Guus Hiddink leaves.

Ranieri was sacked by Abramovich back in 2004 following four years at the club and was replaced by Jose Mourinho.

But given Ranieri's impressive form with Leicester this season, the Russian owner is now contemplating whether to give the Italian a second chance.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on January 16, 2016, 01:00:19 PM


Chelsea want to bring former manager Claudio Ranieri back to the club, according to reports.

Italian newspaper Tuttosport claim owner Roman Abramovich is considering swooping for the Leicester coach in the summer after Guus Hiddink leaves.

Ranieri was sacked by Abramovich back in 2004 following four years at the club and was replaced by Jose Mourinho.

But given Ranieri's impressive form with Leicester this season, the Russian owner is now contemplating whether to give the Italian a second chance.

2nd chance? He wasn't given a first chance hoe he snubs them


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on January 16, 2016, 05:00:06 PM
I assume Greece don't want him back?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 16, 2016, 08:13:22 PM
We go top overnight

two points dropped with a missed penalty a few players, Huth and Mahrez notably, below par

44 points, and onwards


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on January 16, 2016, 08:37:58 PM
We go top overnight

two points dropped with a missed penalty a few players, Huth and Mahrez notably, below par

44 points, and onwards

Just sums up the Prem this year. The games against Bournemouth and tonight were givens IMHO and four points lost rather than two won. I thought the taking off of Shingi for De Laet was baffling. Mahrez also looks very down on confidence at the moment. FA Cup replay this week will be interesting.

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 16, 2016, 09:04:30 PM
dont think he thinks Okazaki is robust enough to play every game. had a knock first half, and subbed him off

to replace him with de laet was negative though, with demarai and dyer on the bench


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 17, 2016, 09:35:08 AM
Great twitter link on bbc sport saying 'Leicester have been top of the league for 33 days in 2015/16 season.  The same number Spurs have since 1992.'


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 23, 2016, 05:43:28 PM

Permission to dream the impossible dream, yet?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on January 23, 2016, 07:36:12 PM

Permission to dream the impossible dream, yet?

It was only Stoke.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on January 23, 2016, 08:24:55 PM

Permission to dream the impossible dream, yet?

It was only Stoke.

True Marky, I really thought from recent reports they were a threat today but watched the whole game and they were really dross. Maybe this week's Capital Cup was on their minds?
 
Still it is only September   October November December January so mustn't get too excited yet :)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2016, 10:10:54 AM
15 games to go

next three

Liverpool h

man c a

arsenal a

but 10 points clear of 5th, so can withstand a tough run hopefully

Vardy and Mahrez were sharp again yesterday, and Kante. what a signing. Don't think i have seen the type of skill Mahrez shows from anyone in a Leicester shirt, ever. maybe frank worthington when i was very young, but not since

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZbZg4kWYAE3ZMj.jpg)

Kante wins the ball, tackles, drives forward, passes off either foot, then wins the ball again and rinse, repeat

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZbK1y0WwAAi2Nx.jpg)

i am hoping that drinkwater finally gets in an England squad. super player

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZb6bOoWwAEyEIL.jpg)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2016, 10:11:41 AM
squad costs

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZcNSP1WQAAl4Z5.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 24, 2016, 10:22:09 AM


I read this about Kante yesterday;


Another impressive showing. His five tackles, five interceptions and gaining back possession 11 times was more than any other team-mate. He also ran for 11.24km, more than any player on the pitch


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2016, 10:24:59 AM


I read this about Kante yesterday;


Another impressive showing. His five tackles, five interceptions and gaining back possession 11 times was more than any other team-mate. He also ran for 11.24km, more than any player on the pitch

as a warm down, he ran home. possibly.

incredible engine he's got.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2016, 11:25:03 AM
Mike Pejic: LCFC remind me of Sacchi's AC Milan - and there's no bigger compliment. http://goo.gl/nq66Pj 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on January 24, 2016, 11:29:25 AM
squad costs

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZcNSP1WQAAl4Z5.jpg)

Not sure this is accurate. Bournemouth have spent £40m since August, +whatever Iturbe costs. United's team cost £360m~


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2016, 11:45:34 AM
doesn't include the current window, when bournemouth have splashed out and is in euros

source is a report on sportingintelligence


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2016, 06:43:57 PM
Leicester Cty lead the Premier League by three points going into February

 ;D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on January 24, 2016, 06:52:07 PM
Leicester Cty lead the Premier League by three points going into February

 ;D

I still despise Costa but thank you



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on January 24, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
So...that 6th place and a cup final, what we thinking?!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2016, 07:58:12 PM
So...that 6th place and a cup final, what we thinking?!

that we have liverpool and man c and arsenal next

and we end with man u away, everton and chelsea away last game of the season

but we would have to really collapse not to get top 6 and have a great shot at top 4

as well as our results, not many teams putting a run together, beating each other, that helps

second last game of the season is man c v arsenal. hopefully still in the hunt then and we can sweat that too, whatever result helps


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on January 24, 2016, 09:14:44 PM
It's the end of January and no sign of a little prick yet





(http://i64.tinypic.com/jl1hlc.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on January 25, 2016, 03:43:02 AM
So...that 6th place and a cup final, what we thinking?!

that we have liverpool and man c and arsenal next

and we end with man u away, everton and chelsea away last game of the season

but we would have to really collapse not to get top 6 and have a great shot at top 4

as well as our results, not many teams putting a run together, beating each other, that helps

second last game of the season is man c v arsenal. hopefully still in the hunt then and we can sweat that too, whatever result helps

if you can get 3+ points out of the next 3 games you then have a nice run upto the last 3 games but even then the last 3 games are as bad as the next 3 and the teams are likely going to have nothing to play for

will be nice to see someone new winning the league without spending the world to do it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Knottikay on January 25, 2016, 02:44:06 PM
So...that 6th place and a cup final, what we thinking?!

that we have liverpool and man c and arsenal next

and we end with man u away, everton and chelsea away last game of the season

but we would have to really collapse not to get top 6 and have a great shot at top 4

as well as our results, not many teams putting a run together, beating each other, that helps

second last game of the season is man c v arsenal. hopefully still in the hunt then and we can sweat that too, whatever result helps

if you can get 3+ points out of the next 3 games you then have a nice run upto the last 3 games but even then the last 3 games are as bad as the next 3 and the teams are likely going to have nothing to play for

will be nice to see someone new winning the league without spending the world to do it

+1

I think all real footy fans outside the big 5/6 are hoping Leicester take it to at least the wire, if not win it now.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on January 25, 2016, 03:05:43 PM
Yep.  I have few doubts it will end the same as noble strong "minnow" challenges in the past though.  Norwich seems to spring to mind.  Villa under Graham Taylor as well.  I think it's even harder to do it now, so that just shows how amazing Leicester have been.

To be honest, Leicester playing in the Champions League does plenty to spice things up even if they don't win it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 28, 2016, 03:51:54 PM
Interesting.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/transfernews/6891092/Graziano-Pelleis-shock-Leicester-target.html


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 28, 2016, 04:01:02 PM
Okazaki is injured and Kramaric on loan which leaves us with Vardy and Ulloa

we were linked with Eder, Doumba and others and clearly want some depth in the squad before 1 Fev

Prepared to push the boat out a bit on wages with the top 4 a possibility

you can in principle get the names playing in europe for a lower fee/comparable wages to ross mccormack, jordan rhodes etc so why not?

i expect the actually name we would like is not public though.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 01, 2016, 01:54:56 PM
Leicester City and Chelsea have agreed a fee for Loic Remy, player will now discuss terms and undergo a medical

Hello, you injury prone goalscorer.

like the look of this if it is £11m which is suggested

lets see if it gets over the line


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 01, 2016, 09:54:56 PM
Leicester City and Chelsea have agreed a fee for Loic Remy, player will now discuss terms and undergo a medical

Hello, you injury prone goalscorer.

like the look of this if it is £11m which is suggested

lets see if it gets over the line

chelsea pull the plug on it

tried to get mame diouf too on loan, nothing doing

lets hope vardy stays fit


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 02, 2016, 10:25:16 PM
played some serious stuff tonight, and Vardy scored a worldie and then we executed the high press on the liverpool back four for the second.

mahrez is a magician.

man c and arsenal away next, but no pressure on us. its all gravy from here

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaPQUHhW0AAXz1f.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on February 02, 2016, 10:35:17 PM
http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/02/jamie-vardy-goal-leicester-city-liverpool-video

Not bad. Matt Taylor-esque. He has to start for England, doesn't he?

Him and Kane would be an excellent pairing. Kane wants to drop off if he can.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 02, 2016, 10:38:47 PM
http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/02/jamie-vardy-goal-leicester-city-liverpool-video

Not bad. Matt Taylor-esque. He has to start for England, doesn't he?

Him and Kane would be an excellent pairing. Kane wants to drop off if he can.

he will start rooney though

vardy on the last man with kane or rooney the support striker would be brilliant

just don't waste vardy wide left, he needs to be on the last defender, will scare teams witless with his pace


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on February 02, 2016, 10:47:13 PM
http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/02/jamie-vardy-goal-leicester-city-liverpool-video

Not bad. Matt Taylor-esque. He has to start for England, doesn't he?

Him and Kane would be an excellent pairing. Kane wants to drop off if he can.

he will start rooney though

vardy on the last man with kane or rooney the support striker would be brilliant

just don't waste vardy wide left, he needs to be on the last defender, will scare teams witless with his pace

If it were me, I'd have Dier as the holding man and then a five of:

Sterling Alli Rooney
      Vardy Kane


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 02, 2016, 10:49:37 PM
so these are the three best leicester goals i have seen

i am pondering where vardy tonight fits in. top three or not?

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6OHXjh2CLk

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4coI5nERPc

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHF4qWUDXac

i think it might knock nalis out


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on February 03, 2016, 12:08:33 AM
http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/02/jamie-vardy-goal-leicester-city-liverpool-video

Not bad. Matt Taylor-esque. He has to start for England, doesn't he?

Him and Kane would be an excellent pairing. Kane wants to drop off if he can.

The dullard Hodgson will start Rooney irrespective of form unfortunately.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 03, 2016, 12:25:53 AM
Muzzy fucking Izzet


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 04, 2016, 10:09:43 AM
saturdays game

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TbUukyFu7g


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 04, 2016, 10:27:39 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaW1sI5WAAAQtfa.jpg)

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/football/article4681683.ece


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on February 04, 2016, 12:19:39 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/43zvbx/how_difficult_is_the_remaining_schedule_for_each/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 05, 2016, 08:19:06 AM


The secret of Leicester City's success is out.

Clap banners.

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 05, 2016, 08:19:53 AM

A sign of how quickly things have changed.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 05, 2016, 10:40:05 AM
i was sceptical at first, but they don't half create an atmosphere


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 05, 2016, 10:44:13 AM
welcome onto the fun bus Jeremy Vne

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35497832


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 05, 2016, 02:35:34 PM
so tomorrow is a big day

Three points clear at the top, and away at Manchester City who go top if they win

In February.

I expect the game will follow a familiar pattern, we'll have 30-35% of possession and look to break up play and transition at speed from defence to attack

Vardy will have fun against Otamendi and DeMichelis, but i expect we'll have less joy down the flanks.

Kante will have his hands full against the City attacking midfield, but he's been such a revelation this season, non stop running, tackling, interceptions and can play too

A point would be a magnificent result, and there is absolutely no pressure on us

I think it could be a corker of a game.
 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on February 05, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
so tomorrow is a big day

Three points clear at the top, and away at Manchester City who go top if they win

In February.

I expect the game will follow a familiar pattern, we'll have 30-35% of possession and look to break up play and transition at speed from defence to attack

Vardy will have fun against Otamendi and DeMichelis, but i expect we'll have less joy down the flanks.

Kante will have his hands full against the City attacking midfield, but he's been such a revelation this season, non stop running, tackling, interceptions and can play too

A point would be a magnificent result, and there is absolutely no pressure on us

I think it could be a corker of a game.
 

Kompany aside how do man city have such a poor central defence despite spending fortunes? 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 05, 2016, 02:47:48 PM
wrong thread to ask, but they are going to have to defend deep tomorrow (they did in the first game) and take care of the high press we do


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 05, 2016, 02:53:56 PM
wrong thread to ask, but they are going to have to defend deep tomorrow (they did in the first game) and take care of the high press we do

Might be worth asking Plumpy (hhy) on the Man City thread, he seems to be able to offer a balanced view on Man C matters.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 05, 2016, 02:55:39 PM
i know the theory behind not cashing out, know you are paying vig twice, once on the first bet and then on the cash out offer

but

Jacqui Oatley ‏@JacquiOatley

Dilemma: @herb1977 bet £5 at 5000-1 in Aug that @LCFC would win the PL, so should he take £3200 offer to cash out now, or hope for £25,000?


how bullish would you have to be now, the day before Man C away, not to take £3200 now?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on February 05, 2016, 02:58:23 PM
i know the theory behind not cashing out, know you are paying vig twice, once on the first bet and then on the cash out offer

but

Jacqui Oatley ‏@JacquiOatley

Dilemma: @herb1977 bet £5 at 5000-1 in Aug that @LCFC would win the PL, so should he take £3200 offer to cash out now, or hope for £25,000?


how bullish would you have to be now, the day before Man C away, not to take £3200 now?

They are 5/1 best, 9/2 with anybody willing to lay.  Sure he could get 4k without much effort. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on February 05, 2016, 03:01:44 PM
i know the theory behind not cashing out, know you are paying vig twice, once on the first bet and then on the cash out offer

but

Jacqui Oatley ‏@JacquiOatley

Dilemma: @herb1977 bet £5 at 5000-1 in Aug that @LCFC would win the PL, so should he take £3200 offer to cash out now, or hope for £25,000?


how bullish would you have to be now, the day before Man C away, not to take £3200 now?

They are 5/1 best, 9/2 with anybody willing to lay.  Sure he could get 4k without much effort.  



I'd take up to £400 to win £2500 anyway.  Neil would take some?  Arbboy?  

Edit somebody willing to put 10k at 6.4 on Betfair.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on February 06, 2016, 12:27:24 AM
so tomorrow is a big day

Three points clear at the top, and away at Manchester City who go top if they win

In February.

I expect the game will follow a familiar pattern, we'll have 30-35% of possession and look to break up play and transition at speed from defence to attack

Vardy will have fun against Otamendi and DeMichelis, but i expect we'll have less joy down the flanks.

Kante will have his hands full against the City attacking midfield, but he's been such a revelation this season, non stop running, tackling, interceptions and can play too

A point would be a magnificent result, and there is absolutely no pressure on us

I think it could be a corker of a game.
 

Tomorrow is one of many huge games for Leicester and every game from here will be a Cup Final.

I think Demachellis is their weakest link with Otamendi not far behind. As for Kante? With Dad's Army "fashionable" again "they won't like it up em"

I have a front seat reserved in a local pub that does real ale so come 2.45 I'll be flying either way!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 06, 2016, 12:44:57 AM
Can't say its a game I'm particularly looking forward to. Despite plenty of shaky moments, we've managed to put in a few clean sheets recently, I think the Argie understanding between Otamendi and MDM helps, even more so when we have Zaba at right back. Concerned about Vardy taking advantage of a potential lack of mobility at the back.

Our team is almost picking itself at the moment due to injuries, so I imagine we'll line up something like 4-5-1 with the midfield packed with Yaya, Delph and Fernandino, Silva and Sterling on the flanks and Aguero up top. Don't see Nacho starting tomorrow, but a useful option from the bench.

09.24 train out of York.....good luck tomorrow.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 06, 2016, 12:57:10 AM
so tomorrow is a big day

Three points clear at the top, and away at Manchester City who go top if they win

In February.

I expect the game will follow a familiar pattern, we'll have 30-35% of possession and look to break up play and transition at speed from defence to attack

Vardy will have fun against Otamendi and DeMichelis, but i expect we'll have less joy down the flanks.

Kante will have his hands full against the City attacking midfield, but he's been such a revelation this season, non stop running, tackling, interceptions and can play too

A point would be a magnificent result, and there is absolutely no pressure on us

I think it could be a corker of a game.
 

Kompany aside how do man city have such a poor central defence despite spending fortunes? 


Tikay has beckoned me, how can I say no? :)

Erm, for starters, I don't think our defence is anywhere near as poor as is made out by the media. I think we have conceded the 3rd least goals in the league and just 4 in the last 6 games (all comps), so there has certainly been an improvement in recent weeks.

A lack of cover in midfield doesn't help, the amount of times we lose possession in the middle of the park and leave the defence completely exposed is alarming. I don't think we retain the ball well enough sometimes, esp away from home.

Obv we miss Kompany, partner him with either Mangala or Otamendi and they both look like world beaters (5 clean sheets in a row at start of season), put them 2 together and the jitters set in. It doesn't help that we concede such sloppy goals either, and with games like Sunderland this week where it was a backs to the wall job against the 2nd bottom team for the last 20 mins, I can understand why outsiders think we are shite defensively. We were pretty well drilled under Mancini, but MP is hell bent on scoring goals, horses for courses.

Cliffs...
-we're not that bad at the back
-concede silly goals and chances that make us look worse
-poor protection from midfield
-Pellegrini doesn't give a fuck about defending, only goals :)
-still got 3rd best defensive in the league......somehow!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on February 06, 2016, 01:14:24 PM
Fair points.  I guess from my limited views of man city it feels like when they are keeping clean sheets it is because they are pummelling the opposition who don't try to attack, but when they are under pressure and Kompany isn't playing they look pretty chaotic.  Maybe it's a false impression.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on February 06, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
this is great


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on February 06, 2016, 01:39:45 PM
I believe


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on February 06, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
Hsyhenwtskejwveuw


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on February 06, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
this is great


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: OverTheBorder on February 06, 2016, 02:56:50 PM
If there was ever a day to sneak awful bets past Tighty on tips for tikay, this is it. Get you 3pm 8 folds put up


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on February 06, 2016, 03:16:09 PM
Leicester have been great. Man city abject, pathetic as terrible as I have seen them. If they're playing for Pelle this is just downright disrespectful


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2016, 03:29:48 PM
Well, well, well

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaiZok8W4AEtCwo.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaiYWF2W4AEVWvf.jpg)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2016, 03:33:46 PM
shots on target

tackles

unbelievable on the break, lethal finishing from Mahrez. Kante sensational, Fuchs wonderful

Huth and Morgan absolute rocks

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaiedWwWEAEzJml.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2016, 03:43:59 PM
£400,000

signing of our decade

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaigvHyWwAAN4hQ.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on February 06, 2016, 06:27:02 PM
with the extra TV money coming into the game next season Leicester wont be forced to sell but will they be able to keep all there star players
unlike Southampton for past couple of seasons you will have ECL to help keep the players happy but will the likes
of marhez want to move to a 'bigger' club


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2016, 06:30:25 PM
Mahrez may do yes

Not that we will have to sell but its difficult to persuade any player to stay if PSG, Real or Barca come calling

We should have Kante for another year, Vardy is 29 and about to sign a new 3.5 year contract doubling his wages

Mahrez is the one, and i reckon it could be a big big price given he's got a contact for 2 more years


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 06, 2016, 06:35:13 PM
GG Leicester.

City battling for 2nd with the spuds and gooners.

Tighty, quick Q. Who is the player who was on your bench today; about 30, stocky build, tattoo on his right calf, spiky brown hair and beard, looks a bit of a bruiser? Genuinely thought he was your sub keeper and couldn't work out why he was warming up from the 1st minute :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2016, 06:36:42 PM
GG Leicester.

City battling for 2nd with the spuds and gooners.

Tighty, quick Q. Who is the player who was on your bench today; about 30, stocky build, tattoo on his right calf, spiky brown hair and beard, looks a bit of a bruiser? Genuinely thought he was your sub keeper and couldn't work out why he was warming up from the 1st minute :)

Wasilewski, polish international centre back

cult hero

old style centre half, bought from Anderlecht where he was also a cult hero

leicester and anderlecht fans now go to watch each other's games because of a shared love of the beast.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: baldock92 on February 06, 2016, 06:37:16 PM
Phenomenal performance today, delighted to see Huth grab a couple! I thought this would be the big turning point where Citeh would thump 4 last you and the Leicester slide would begin. I'm very happy to eat my humble pie after this one. I really hope it continues. Not to sound too cheesy but it would be such a victory for English football and football in general if you could win the league.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: ripple11 on February 06, 2016, 06:40:15 PM
Interesting listening to Dale Tempest of Skybet last night on talk sport.
Says they will lose 5 million on Leicester winning. They have 128 bets at 5000/1....from 10p to £20e/w
He said sky were happy (last night!) to listen to punters wanting to cash in.

What a ride..... good luck to them all  :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 06, 2016, 06:40:54 PM
GG Leicester.

City battling for 2nd with the spuds and gooners.

Tighty, quick Q. Who is the player who was on your bench today; about 30, stocky build, tattoo on his right calf, spiky brown hair and beard, looks a bit of a bruiser? Genuinely thought he was your sub keeper and couldn't work out why he was warming up from the 1st minute :)

Wasilewski, polish international centre back

cult hero

old style centre half, bought from Anderlecht where he was also a cult hero

leicester and anderlecht fans now go to watch each other's games because of a shared love of the beast.

Yes, certainly wouldn't want to get into a disagreement with him. Didn't recognise him at all (and didn't see the line ups for subs), but he's built like a brick shit house.

Wp today, gulf in class and confidence. Can't begrudge you guys taking the title, and hope you do (assuming we don't catch up) as its fully deserved.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on February 06, 2016, 06:41:03 PM
Its not the same as southampton tho as leic will be able to match the excuse that most wantaways give- CL football, at least for next season.  If RM or barca offer theres no getting away from it but you protect your assets from the likes of man u. liverpool (southamptons parasite) and most foreign teams.

TBH id trade everyone of those players for a league title. Win the league and theres no worries about your players being stripped, its easy to find decent ones with CL football to offer.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on February 06, 2016, 06:43:15 PM
GG Leicester.

City battling for 2nd with the spuds and gooners.

Tighty, quick Q. Who is the player who was on your bench today; about 30, stocky build, tattoo on his right calf, spiky brown hair and beard, looks a bit of a bruiser? Genuinely thought he was your sub keeper and couldn't work out why he was warming up from the 1st minute :)

Wasilewski, polish international centre back

cult hero

old style centre half, bought from Anderlecht where he was also a cult hero

leicester and anderlecht fans now go to watch each other's games because of a shared love of the beast.

I think he's been unlucky this year not to get a game as he was pretty decent when he played last year I thought. But you can't argue considering how well the team has done.
I thought that Leicester would fall away this year as even though you went very well at the start of the season, you were shipping lots of goals. I thought the Vardy/Mahrez goals would have to dry up at some point (and they have to a degree) but now the defence has tightened up considerably. Probably the best defence in the league over the last dozen or so games? I think Ranieri has to take a lot fo credit for that.
Well done on hopefully taking a huge step towards winning the league today and a massive, massive step towards securing top 4.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on February 06, 2016, 07:00:26 PM
Interesting listening to Dale Tempest of Skybet last night on talk sport.
Says they will lose 5 million on Leicester winning. They have 128 bets at 5000/1....from 10p to £20e/w
He said sky were happy (last night!) to listen to punters wanting to cash in.

What a ride..... good luck to them all  :)

Did he say how much money have they taken on the outright market?

They're not declaring a £5m net loss are they?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on February 06, 2016, 07:01:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhQK0XoRZJg

why the hell was there 3 of them around that first free kick? 2 i can just about get away with but 3?!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2016, 07:04:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhQK0XoRZJg

why the hell was there 3 of them around that first free kick? 2 i can just about get away with but 3?!

Fuchs is a left footed dead ball specialist

Mahrez is a genius

Albrighton the right footed option

seeing as Man Cdecided not to defend the near post, i'd say it was a decent free kick


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 06, 2016, 07:08:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhQK0XoRZJg

why the hell was there 3 of them around that first free kick? 2 i can just about get away with but 3?!

Fuchs is a left footed dead ball specialist

Mahrez is a genius

Albrighton the right footed option

seeing as Man Cdecided not to defend, i'd say it was a decent free kick

FYP


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: muckthenuts on February 06, 2016, 08:18:07 PM
Its not the same as southampton tho as leic will be able to match the excuse that most wantaways give- CL football, at least for next season.  If RM or barca offer theres no getting away from it but you protect your assets from the likes of man u. liverpool (southamptons parasite) and most foreign teams.

TBH id trade everyone of those players for a league title. Win the league and theres no worries about your players being stripped, its easy to find decent ones with CL football to offer.

No chance that 1 solitary season of CL football will stop todays players from wanting higher wages and more chance of success at any bigger clubs. Leicester should probably cash in on their stars over the summer rather than wait a year and allow their stock to fall, which it will when offers start coming in from elsewhere, Leicster reassume a mid table position and players make it clear they want to go. I mean this season is a dream but an anomaly, so perhaps it's best to maximise its value to maintain the long term position of the club in the PL while all the hype is around.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2016, 08:36:37 PM
Jamie Vardy has signed a new contract with Leicester City, committing his future to the Foxes until 2019.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on February 06, 2016, 09:32:22 PM
Ranieri wins the league and it must be the greatest achievement in football history.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: muckthenuts on February 06, 2016, 09:47:30 PM
Lol on twitter:

"Dad how did Leicester win the league?"

"It all started when Nigel Pearsons son racially abused a Thai prostitute in a sex orgy on video."



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 06, 2016, 10:32:11 PM
Interesting listening to Dale Tempest of Skybet last night on talk sport.
Says they will lose 5 million on Leicester winning. They have 128 bets at 5000/1....from 10p to £20e/w
He said sky were happy (last night!) to listen to punters wanting to cash in.

What a ride..... good luck to them all  :)

Did he say how much money have they taken on the outright market?

They're not declaring a £5m net loss are they?

No, £5m is their liability on Leicester, not the book as a whole.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on February 06, 2016, 10:53:14 PM
Interesting listening to Dale Tempest of Skybet last night on talk sport.
Says they will lose 5 million on Leicester winning. They have 128 bets at 5000/1....from 10p to £20e/w
He said sky were happy (last night!) to listen to punters wanting to cash in.

What a ride..... good luck to them all  :)

Did he say how much money have they taken on the outright market?

They're not declaring a £5m net loss are they?

No, £5m is their liability on Leicester, not the book as a whole.

Absolutely. I do like it when those figures are the ones published but they will have taken a few quid on Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Liverpool, whoever Pardew manages these days and obviously Stoke.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2016, 10:56:21 PM
Interesting listening to Dale Tempest of Skybet last night on talk sport.
Says they will lose 5 million on Leicester winning. They have 128 bets at 5000/1....from 10p to £20e/w
He said sky were happy (last night!) to listen to punters wanting to cash in.

What a ride..... good luck to them all  :)

Did he say how much money have they taken on the outright market?

They're not declaring a £5m net loss are they?

No, £5m is their liability on Leicester, not the book as a whole.

Absolutely. I do like it when those figures are the ones published but they will have taken a few quid on Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Liverpool, whoever Pardew manages these days and obviously Stoke.

so in fact fantastic publicity

lets say gross take is £10m, lose £5m if LCFC win it, net take £5m and next season everyone punts the outsiders and the big four re-assert and everyone does the lot, most probably

and lcfc probably don't win it anyway, so even better. they get publicity from feb-may about tickets at 5000-1 and ultimately they lose

bit like the super 6, or a big accumulator. the £250k/whatever is a fantastic use of marketing budget over the lifetime of customers for acquisition/extra volume from ice-creams etc 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 07, 2016, 10:16:32 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CakOo4WW8AAXyZ1.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 07, 2016, 10:17:15 AM
Caley's projection

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CajqkifWAAIhHu1.png)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 07, 2016, 11:33:52 AM


Another stunning result yesterday.

The unique thing about this whole story is that it has unified football fans everywhere, they are all rooting for Leicester, with the possible exception of those in Derby & Nottingham.

Not sure why, as this is most unusual, but it is probably down to their refreshing, almost gung-ho playing style. They don't appear to have a bus to park.

Add into that 3 sensational players, backed up by some players who really are playing the best football of their life. It reminds me somewhat of Clough's early years at Derby, when the team as a whole were greater than the sum of the parts.

Long may it last. It's absolutely revitalised the EPL. Just imagine the fun we'd have if the EPL introduced a NFL or NBA draft system.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on February 07, 2016, 11:41:57 AM
interesting WBA have 10% relegation chances there.

After Arsenal, Leicester have very favourable run, 9 very winnable games almost all against lower half of the league teams. Really is very much in their hands now.


Leicester v Norwich
   
March 2016

Leicester v West Brom
Watford v Leicester
Leicester v Newcastle   
Crystal Palace v Leicester
   
April 2016

Leicester v Southampton
Sunderland v Leicester
Leicester v West Ham   
Leicester v Swansea      

Assuming it goes down to the last 3 games, Man United/Everton/Chelsea looks tough, but likely they won't have much to play for.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 07, 2016, 11:45:18 AM
pleno, your free kick question...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaiGM7lW4AEUzxF.png)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on February 07, 2016, 11:50:46 AM
Long may it last. It's absolutely revitalised the EPL.

The EPL was like totally vital before Licesster became top of the table. It will probably remain so when they're not


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on February 07, 2016, 12:25:56 PM
pleno, your free kick question...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaiGM7lW4AEUzxF.png)

Sorry I don't understand what it's trying to show? City defending the set piece poorly? I assumed this or does it show having 3 people out there took an extra city player away from a danger area and it was pre planned?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 07, 2016, 12:28:58 PM
pleno, your free kick question...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaiGM7lW4AEUzxF.png)

Sorry I don't understand what it's trying to show? City defending the set piece poorly? I assumed this or does it show having 3 people out there took an extra city player away from a danger area and it was pre planned?

just the odd defending. on MOTD they highlighted Zabaleta just to the right of the top right of the six yard box who was in the wrong position and that Huth showed more tenancity than De Michelis when the ball came in. Quite rare to see a ball, played in that low from a set piece, get that far really.

i don't think having 3 over the ball made any difference to that. I do know all three take a mean free kick. quite what happens if the ball is cleared and your left back is stuck by the corner flag over a free-kick, not sure.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on February 07, 2016, 12:38:19 PM
Yeh I usually understand having both right and left footed people over the ball to make opponents not be able to read the angle and sometimes understand 3 players in central positions where it can be stop and struck but never ever saw 3 players at this kind of angle as obviously it restricts how many people you can have in the box/potentially makes you vulnerable to counter attacks. Ranieri is obviously a tactical genius though so I'm very intrigued.

Will be interesting to see who Leicester attract next season. Carrick maybe? Think he'd be a pretty good signing with good experience and cheap and probably will see the exit door at Man United. Nathan Redmond if Norwich go down potentially a good signing. I'm not very clued up on continental football so unsure about anybody form outside of England but obviously scouting system is one of the best and sure they will continue to do good business.

John Terry? :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 07, 2016, 12:45:18 PM
pretty sure they won't be looking at players on a last contract. cambiasso was a bit of a special case. Huth was a loan signing who transformed the back four so utterly that it would have been mad not to sign him

the whole thrust of the transfer policy has been to buy players in the early 20s, who you can get before the big boys want them (steve walsh and the scouting network) and they then

a) develop with you
b) sell on at profit if needed
c) second contract with you if possible

demarai gray is 19
Amartey is 21
Kante is 24
Mahrez  is 24
Drinkwater is 25

fuchs, albrighton (only 26 years old now) etc were on frees, so there wasn't a huge capital outlay where you are sinking cost without a sell on at the end, just the wages for length of contract to cover

maybe okazaki and inler don't fit that mould so much, but most of the signings do

don't expect that to change. players like nathan redmond would be very much like leicester signings


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on February 07, 2016, 12:49:20 PM
interesting WBA have 10% relegation chances there.

After Arsenal, Leicester have very favourable run, 9 very winnable games almost all against lower half of the league teams. Really is very much in their hands now.


Leicester v Norwich
   
March 2016

Leicester v West Brom
Watford v Leicester
Leicester v Newcastle   
Crystal Palace v Leicester
   
April 2016

Leicester v Southampton
Sunderland v Leicester
Leicester v West Ham   
Leicester v Swansea      

Assuming it goes down to the last 3 games, Man United/Everton/Chelsea looks tough, but likely they won't have much to play for.

Well 6/9 are currently in the bottom half.  It does look a favourable run though.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: toddswain on February 07, 2016, 01:00:23 PM
Probably been discussed before... What's mahrez's valuation in the current market if he was to be sold in the summer ?

I think 30-35


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 07, 2016, 01:03:36 PM
Long may it last. It's absolutely revitalised the EPL.

The EPL was like totally vital before Licesster became top of the table. It will probably remain so when they're not

Yup, & now it's been revitalised.

It's like when I add Worcester Sauce to my Tesco tinned toms and a few pineapple chunks - adds a whole new dimension of excitement.  


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 07, 2016, 01:04:45 PM
Probably been discussed before... What's mahrez's valuation in the current market if he was to be sold in the summer ?

I think 30-35

Higher

more than one club will want him, new TV deals, transfer market will be barmy

24 years old so if you sign him you get two contracts out of him.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 07, 2016, 01:14:17 PM
interesting WBA have 10% relegation chances there.

After Arsenal, Leicester have very favourable run, 9 very winnable games almost all against lower half of the league teams. Really is very much in their hands now.


Leicester v Norwich
   
March 2016

Leicester v West Brom
Watford v Leicester
Leicester v Newcastle   
Crystal Palace v Leicester
   
April 2016

Leicester v Southampton
Sunderland v Leicester
Leicester v West Ham   
Leicester v Swansea      

Assuming it goes down to the last 3 games, Man United/Everton/Chelsea looks tough, but likely they won't have much to play for.

Well 6/9 are currently in the bottom half.  It does look a favourable run though.

Am I clutching at straws in the hope that Leicester playing mostly mid table/bottom half teams might work against them to a degree?

Reasoning being that yesterday they played with absolutely no pressure on their shoulders, City were expected to win, and this showed on the pitch as they just casually out played us. When they are playing the likes of Swansea, Newcastle etc, the pressure will be on Leicester to perform and ultimately win, esp as we come up to the business end of the season and securing 3 points every week will be crucial.

Yes I am clutching at straws :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: BorntoBubble on February 07, 2016, 01:16:16 PM
I've been thinking along similar lines although I hope it is not the case!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 07, 2016, 01:23:20 PM
genuinely no pressure at all being felt

I do agree that if you are playing clubs scrapping its tough. Can't imagine WBA, for example, doing anything other than defending their 18 yard box and trying not to let Vardy in behind, or allow us to play on the counter

One thing i remain staggered about is that teams continue to defend quite high against us, only Liverpool on boxing day played it as you should against us, defend quite deep, let us play in front and double press Mahrez.

We are not going to score goals if you put two banks of four in front of us and tell us to break you down. put Vardy or Mahrez on the ball in space on the counter and its goodnight defenders.

yesterday man c were continually caught, full backs bombing on as well, so when kante/drunkwater wins it in midfield there is acres of space


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on February 07, 2016, 01:31:03 PM
genuinely no pressure at all being felt

I do agree that if you are playing clubs scrapping its tough. Can't imagine WBA, for example, doing anything other than defending their 18 yard box and trying not to let Vardy in behind, or allow us to play on the counter

One thing i remain staggered about is that teams continue to defend quite high against us, only Liverpool on boxing day played it as you should against us, defend quite deep, let us play in front and double press Mahrez.

We are not going to score goals if you put two banks of four in front of us and tell us to break you down. put Vardy or Mahrez on the ball in space on the counter and its goodnight defenders.

yesterday man c were continually caught, full backs bombing on as well, so when kante/drunkwater wins it in midfield there is acres of space

This bolded bit is why I think you'll enjoy the Champions League more than the Europa.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 07, 2016, 01:42:46 PM
genuinely no pressure at all being felt

I do agree that if you are playing clubs scrapping its tough. Can't imagine WBA, for example, doing anything other than defending their 18 yard box and trying not to let Vardy in behind, or allow us to play on the counter

One thing i remain staggered about is that teams continue to defend quite high against us, only Liverpool on boxing day played it as you should against us, defend quite deep, let us play in front and double press Mahrez.

We are not going to score goals if you put two banks of four in front of us and tell us to break you down. put Vardy or Mahrez on the ball in space on the counter and its goodnight defenders.

yesterday man c were continually caught, full backs bombing on as well, so when kante/drunkwater wins it in midfield there is acres of space

Watched a bit of that Kante yesterday as I'd seen him namechecked a few times. Looks more than decent! Doesn't half cover the pitch. Great engine on him too.

I'm sure the pressure will be there to get over the line. It all still feels a bit fairytale at the moment, but fast forward to April and you're still top of the league, then it should kick in.... We're quite good at chasing, less so at being chased. Clutching at straws again :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on February 07, 2016, 06:19:10 PM
interesting WBA have 10% relegation chances there.

After Arsenal, Leicester have very favourable run, 9 very winnable games almost all against lower half of the league teams. Really is very much in their hands now.


Leicester v Norwich
   
March 2016

Leicester v West Brom
Watford v Leicester
Leicester v Newcastle   
Crystal Palace v Leicester
   
April 2016

Leicester v Southampton
Sunderland v Leicester
Leicester v West Ham   
Leicester v Swansea      

Assuming it goes down to the last 3 games, Man United/Everton/Chelsea looks tough, but likely they won't have much to play for.

Well 6/9 are currently in the bottom half.  It does look a favourable run though.

Am I clutching at straws in the hope that Leicester playing mostly mid table/bottom half teams might work against them to a degree?

Reasoning being that yesterday they played with absolutely no pressure on their shoulders, City were expected to win, and this showed on the pitch as they just casually out played us. When they are playing the likes of Swansea, Newcastle etc, the pressure will be on Leicester to perform and ultimately win, esp as we come up to the business end of the season and securing 3 points every week will be crucial.

Yes I am clutching at straws :)

It's a fair point.  Let's take Watford v Leicester which I'll be at.  Flores is pretty negative even at home and will likely show Leicester full respect in his approach.  Watford are certainly beatable at home (lost 4 times I think) and Leicester might feel under pressure to push on if 0-0 after 60 mins.  Might play into a Watford type team's hands in an awkward away game.  Of course Mahrez/Vardy might have them 2-0 up by then.

To be honest I'll be half cheering for Leicester in this match if Watford are pretty much safe as what they might achieve here shakes the league up and gives everyone belief for the next decade.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 07, 2016, 10:44:55 PM
Haway the lads.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on February 08, 2016, 02:25:53 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CasTWbPW8AEznkS.png:large)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on February 08, 2016, 02:27:42 PM
Small writing but interesting stuff

Basically when he arrived he soon realised the players were not interested in tactical nuances or variations.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 08, 2016, 02:52:57 PM
its to his credit that he adapted so quickly and listened/watched and saw what they would and would not respond to

a very sage man indeed


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 08, 2016, 03:41:44 PM
love this picture

Mahrez beats Otamendi on the way to scoring

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CasBaJTXEAUBW7s.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 10, 2016, 11:01:27 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/09/arsenal-wrong-scout-leicester-gary-lineker

anyway thats wrigglesworth at arsenal and mckenzie at spurs now from our vanuted scouting team


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 10, 2016, 11:10:27 AM
no-one is going to read this but i will put it here anyway

outstanding long form report of the game at the etihad, tactics and the rest

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2016/02/10/manchester-city-1-3-leicester-early-goal-allows-leicester-to-play-on-the-break/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 10, 2016, 11:25:36 AM
well said, odious man and a horrible pundit who gets work everywhere!

thoroughly on the bandwagon now, strangely enough

'You've changed your tune, Robbie Savage. And your badge-kissing allegiance'

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-OPINION-Thanks-support-Robbie/story-28696406-detail/story.html#ixzz3zlBUFVG2



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Nakor on February 10, 2016, 12:25:46 PM
well said, odious man and a horrible pundit who gets work everywhere!

thoroughly on the bandwagon now, strangely enough

'You've changed your tune, Robbie Savage. And your badge-kissing allegiance'

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-OPINION-Thanks-support-Robbie/story-28696406-detail/story.html#ixzz3zlBUFVG2



Odious, really?

Think that article just sums up why he is liked by some.
Honest, and not afraid to speak his mind.  At least he had the balls to state he didn't think they would win it, in the face of a weekly barrage of abuse from Fox's fans. 
Beating City has changed the opinion of nearly every football fan I know from "I would like them to win it" to "they can/will win it".  Not surprised that game changed his mind to be honest.

As a pundit/presenter I think he is good - his partnership on 606 is entertaining, he does not trot out the same old rubbish, he was very honest in respect to his allegiance to Mancini and how that shaped his views on Man City, and he has also been honest in stating he thought Leicester were lightweight in squad depth and it would catch up with them - it hasn't.

Appreciate he is not everyone's cup of tea - but what do you want 3 Gareth Crooks clones on every football show?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 10, 2016, 12:30:54 PM
odious might be the wrong word

Insincere, maybe

i don't mind him changing his mind on leicester, many have and no one saw it coming

the part many leicester fans object to is his behaviour on returning to leicester with away clubs, demonstrably being a cock and now claiming that "we" are going to win the league. There is no "we" about it Robbie, unlike the vast majority who left the club (and many like izzet, walsh, elliott, taggart from that era are are matches regularly now) who didn't go round slagging us off afterwards

Smply two-faced.

as a pundit i think he is utterly dreadful (merson is bad but entertaining, savage is bad and thinks he's entertaining, he's not), but at least he's not dreadful and boring like the horrendous garth crooks so i agree with you on that


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 10, 2016, 01:06:09 PM
Player Focus: Mahrez Essential in Leicester's Stunning Season

https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/_bybwmjhg0ac2er5bfrpfg/Show/Player-Focus-Mahrez-Essential-in-Leicesters-Stunning-Season

(https://cdn.whoscored.com/img/blog/2016%2f2%2fCAN.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 10, 2016, 03:05:04 PM
The LCFC fan who bet £5 on his side to win the league is now offered £6,500 to cash out. http://bbc.in/1PxhhHY 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 11, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
Leicester City's bonus structure for the season reveals how high in the league the club hoped they'd finish..

http://www.thesportbible.com/articles/leicester-city-bosses-were-never-prepared-for-title-push-110216


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2016, 12:13:04 PM
Leicester are now serious title contenders... but who's in the King Power bootroom? http://dailym.ai/1TbCOe3 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2016, 12:14:37 PM
The miracle of Leicester: even more incredible than it first appears (By Brian Sears)

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2016/02/12/the-miracle-of-leicester-more-incredible-than-it-first-appear-120102/

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbAeyU8W4AA03h5.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2016, 02:36:29 PM

Did I read correctly that Leicester City have fielded an unchanged starting 11 for the last 5 games in a row?

If so, tinker tinkers no more.

Does give some food for thought to the all-powerful "squad rotation" lobby, too.

Times were perhaps different, but Derby County were similar in their early Clough days, and one of the better Liverpool Teams, might have been under Shankly, only used 15 different players all season when they won one of their titles. Plenty of "ever present" players around, too. No subs then, of course, which I preferred.   


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2016, 02:41:52 PM
been very fortunate with injuries, though one lobby would tell you that is skill in the sports science team that we haven't suffered many soft tissue injuries

we currently have 2 of the first team squad of 25 out, the lowest number in the league

that apart, we are also fortunate that we dont have many fixtures being out of both cups, so plenty of recovery time no need to rotate. that could be a big advantage once the champions league resumes and as others go deep in the fac cup too

and of course the form of the players is such that you don't want to change the team

i think, iirc, weve used the lowest number of players of any PL team this season.

some luck, some form, some judgement, some down to circumstances


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2016, 02:44:19 PM
In a weird piece of timing, just looked at today's Times, & they have a League Table of who has made least changes to their line up this season

Top 4 are;

Leicester 21

Watford 30

Stoke 33

Bournemouth 34


Bottom 4?

Villa 59

Southampton 60

Sunderland 64

Man City 66





Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2016, 02:48:47 PM
the four down the bottom all make sense to me

villa started badly, lots of new players, then new manager...

southampton started early in the europa league, and were playing lots of midweeks, rotation inevitable

sunderland started badly, lots of new players, then new manager

man c have a strong squad with probably two starting xis minimum, playing in the champions league, plenty of rotation inevitable


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 12, 2016, 06:05:00 PM
the four down the bottom all make sense to me

villa started badly, lots of new players, then new manager...

southampton started early in the europa league, and were playing lots of midweeks, rotation inevitable

sunderland started badly, lots of new players, then new manager

man c have a strong squad with probably two starting xis minimum, playing in the champions league, plenty of rotation inevitable

Yep, loads of games plus loads of injuries means a fair bit of tinkering for us this season.

Off the top of my head, so far this season we've had Hart, Zabaleta, Mangala, Kompany, Kolarov, Clichy, Delph, Navas, Nasri, KDB, Silva, Toure, Fernando, Sterling, Aguero and Bony all on the sidelines. Some have been brief injuries (Sterling, Hart), others much more long term (Silva, Vinny, Sergio, Nasri).

We had a reasonably settled side for the first 5 games, and won 5/5 without conceding.....then things kinda went tits up :)

Just read Delph out for 7 weeks, marv.

Still pretty impressive that Leicester have only used 21 players.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 13, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
this is all rather unnerving

Arsene is playing his little games, which despite the fact they will probably win tomorrow will have no impact on us as Ranieri doesn't give a toss

and now we are everyone's favourite team.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbDEEy9W0AEzrVc.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbDEE0PWcAA6PBK.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbDEE1lWEAEX7k4.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbFOC6PWcAAR-ZR.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbFOC5TWwAAUSL-.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbFOC4sWIAAebL6.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbDEEzAWEAA0UsK.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbC-7lsWEAEp9SS.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 13, 2016, 10:43:42 AM
i like this one by Marcotti

"Past hardships inspire Leicester's unlikely Premier League title challenge "

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/marcotti-musings/62/post/2805232/leicester-unlikely-premier-league-title-push


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on February 14, 2016, 01:44:02 PM
 ;gobsmacked;


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Teacake on February 14, 2016, 01:51:47 PM
Whoever is keeping Kante out of the French national side must be some player, he's been immense again today.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 14, 2016, 02:45:55 PM
Whoever is keeping Kante out of the French national side must be some player, he's been immense again today.

Ugh.

Kante is a great player though. Interceptions, great engine.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 14, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
the local newspaper report extract

"Kante: more than a tackler

A general theme occurred at the Emirates. Arsenal got the ball, N'Golo Kante won it back. Arsenal got the ball, Kante won it back. Arsenal got the ball, Kante won it back. Repeat.

He was everywhere. If the caused seemed lost, Kante resurrected it.

He is a constant, relentless, irrepressible tackler. Yet he is so much more than that too. To label him a 'tackler' is to do him a gross injustice. It just colours in the edges.

Yes, he tackles. But he also blocks, bites, battles and bruises; nicks, nabs, nips, snaps, steals, surges, sneaks, scampers, hassles, harangues, hampers, hurries and scurries. He sleuths, pesters, pinches, pickpockets, hustles, bustles, drives, reads, foresees and retrieves. And he does not stop."


reflecting, the sending off Ranieri didnt think either were a yellow but some you get some you don't. Thought simpson was a bit rash so soon after the first booking

the 95th minute challenge from wasilewski for the last free kick,daft

small margins.

Arsenal gave it large on winning, lap of honour, topless selfies from the changing room minutes after the final whistle and much joy. Shows how far we've come, we are still right in it

We have a week off now (and the players have been told to go away, Ranieri is off to Rome) whilst arsenal, man c play three games in the champions league and F A Cup.

that has to be a big help for us, Norwich at home next and hopefully back on track



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: mondatoo on February 14, 2016, 09:20:22 PM
I was beginning to think maybe I was just lacking in my knowledge of the game a little when people keep going on about players that do a similar role to Kante being good footballers and I think they're awful.

That certainly wasn't the case today, thought he was easily the best player on the pitch. Today was the first full game I've watched Leicester play this season and he was hugely impressive.

Thought the 2nd yellow was extremely harsh, but as said was a silly mistake to make and shouldn't have gave the ref the chance to send him off.

Sighs at the end but 6/9 points would've been snapped up I expect. Still got a great shout, I'm starting to fancy Spurs to get it done but they have a lot of fixtures to play so gives you an edge there for sure. Also doesn't feel like there's any chance you'll take any of your so called easy games lightly so if pressure doesn't become an issue then very much still in with a big chance of winning the title, enjoy the ride.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on February 14, 2016, 09:34:25 PM
Thought gray was naive for the first goal. Well just lacking defensive awareness not surprising for a player who has had a free role for most of his career at Birmingham.

He did track back well after that which is a good sign.

Kante very good obviously but matudi and pogba are rather good


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on February 14, 2016, 10:32:00 PM
Thought gray was naive for the first goal. Well just lacking defensive awareness not surprising for a player who has had a free role for most of his career at Birmingham.

He did track back well after that which is a good sign.

Kante very good obviously but matudi and pogba are rather good

I can't really bring myself to criticise Claudio but I thought the taking off of Mahrez was a strange move when essentially he was replacing him with Gray eventually.I Like the kid but under the circumstances he was brought into the game it's hardly surprising if he wasn't a bit rabbit in headlights. Mahrez looked a bit bewildered as well at the substitution. Appreciating the disappointment of being sent off I thought Simpson's clear expletive to one of the coaching staff was bang out of order and the first time I've witnessed any form of dissent in the team in a long long time.

Hopefully the two week break will give them all I me to settle down, regroup and march on.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on February 14, 2016, 10:40:50 PM
Thought gray was naive for the first goal. Well just lacking defensive awareness not surprising for a player who has had a free role for most of his career at Birmingham.

He did track back well after that which is a good sign.

Kante very good obviously but matudi and pogba are rather good

I can't really bring myself to criticise Claudio but I thought the taking off of Mahrez was a strange move when essentially he was replacing him with Gray eventually.I Like the kid but under the circumstances he was brought into the game it's hardly surprising if he wasn't a bit rabbit in headlights. Mahrez looked a bit bewildered as well at the substitution. Appreciating the disappointment of being sent off I thought Simpson's clear expletive to one of the coaching staff was bang out of order and the first time I've witnessed any form of dissent in the team in a long long time.

Hopefully the two week break will give them all I me to settle down, regroup and march on.



Mahrez was taken off earlier in the season a couple of times as I think his defensive qualities were thought to be lacking.

In the last 8 games, Leicester have conceded 4 goals. How many goals have Leicester conceded when Mahrez was on the pitch in those 8 games (649 minutes)? Not a single one. They have conceded 4 goals in the 71 minutes he wasn't on the pitch!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 15, 2016, 10:20:26 AM
now i know its not going to be easy to beat sides scrapping, but the run in could be worse

- 0 games left vs top 4 sides
- 2 away trips vs top 10 sides
- 8 games vs bottom half sides
- 2 points clear 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbNNcT6XIAASGPh.jpg)


before we play again Arsenal have Hull and Barca, Tottenham have Fiorentina twice and Palace, City have Chelsea and Kiev away


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on February 15, 2016, 10:39:43 AM

Norwich at home next and hopefully back on track (Tighty)

regroup and march on. (Old father Tim)


Guess you are not used to losing games these days, but I don't think a narrow defeat at one of the best Clubs in the League is anything to be troubled by, or any "re-grouping" is necessary. It's not as if the wheels came off, or you played badly.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on February 15, 2016, 09:36:35 PM
First time I've really watched Leicester yesterday. Incred how bad the league is this year that Leicester are top. Shirley only Kante and possibly Mahrez get a look in at any sizable European Club or Spurs



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 16, 2016, 09:53:32 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbRzagqW8AEpOvj.png)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on February 28, 2016, 04:58:06 PM
Updated Barclays Premier League title prices

15/8f Leicester City,
2/1 Tottenham,
11/4 Arsenal,
11/2 Man City,
80/1 Man Utd

incredible season, all round

by all acconts huffed and puffed yesterday against a stream that strung 5 across the 18 yard box and allowed no room in behind

got a late crucial goal

west brom at home tuesday, might see more of the same from the away side


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on February 28, 2016, 05:12:28 PM


Tbf Tighty Norwich came to play and could have had the game sown up quite early on. Our first shot on target was in the 60thish minute from a free kick. Klosse did a good just job nullifying Vardy, and Mahrez got the usual 2 on 1 treatment and really only came into it in the final half hour. As a game it was a non event for any neutral but if you have to win "ugly" who cares!




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on February 28, 2016, 06:11:47 PM
Spurs or Leicester. Who'dve thunk it?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on February 28, 2016, 08:53:40 PM
Backed Leicester and Spurs when both 5/1 City to far behind now, but our trophy 🏆 cabinet is growing.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 01, 2016, 05:15:41 PM


Losing Kante is not good for us, although WBA are not showing themselves as too aggressive in going forward. Watford might be a different matter on Saturday however. Definitely an interesting and unsettling development IMHO.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on March 01, 2016, 09:27:01 PM
59% possession!!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 02, 2016, 10:19:36 AM
so we played really well last night, some stunning football and west brom surprised me too, played a bit and despite vulnerabilities caused by playing 4 giant redwoods across the back with centre backs out of position on either flank scored two good goals

missed the norwich game

4 points out of 6 and lots and twists and turns ahead.

could do with spurs slipping up tonight or at the weekend.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on March 02, 2016, 07:11:56 PM
Crucial week this week Tighty, Key games, City win tonight, Spurs loose which I doubt, Gooners win then pick a title winner, great suspense but still not sure who will be Champs. Don't think city will win as they struggle at Anfield usually. Pello may be focusing more on Champions League.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on March 02, 2016, 10:16:59 PM
Just feels like destiny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 02, 2016, 10:22:12 PM
Belting night for the Foxes tonight!

Looking forward to Saturday's game - will be interested to see how Ranieri approaches it if 0-0 after an hour.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 02, 2016, 10:28:25 PM
We will be attacking. Gone for it all season in tight games. Not the worst of nights!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on March 02, 2016, 10:28:50 PM
merry christmas


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on March 02, 2016, 10:32:42 PM
Bilic was tactically brilliant tonight. Poor pitch, closed spurs down at every opportunity, forced us inside and into traffic. Best team won, no question. 

Saturday should be rather interesting


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 04, 2016, 12:29:03 PM
very interesting Danny Drinkwater article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3475445/Danny-Drinkwater-one-unsung-Leicester-superheroes-proving-points-teamwork.html


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on March 05, 2016, 01:57:27 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03ljtt8


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on March 05, 2016, 03:24:45 PM
Destiny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 05, 2016, 03:27:38 PM
ok now, come on lads

drive it home.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 05, 2016, 03:49:11 PM
ok now, come on lads

drive it home.

Deeney's gonna get ya.  :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 05, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
ok now, come on lads

drive it home.

Deeney's gonna get ya.  :)

He's done it before. we tried to sign him just under two years ago too



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 05, 2016, 03:55:10 PM
ok now, come on lads

drive it home.

Deeney's gonna get ya.  :)

He's done it before. we tried to sign him just under two years ago too



Hope it's a good game at any rate.  Can't remember the last time I enjoyed a home game in terms of entertainment.  Man City back in December I guess - The FA Cup matches have been dreadful.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 05, 2016, 08:24:26 PM
Boom. 5 points clear. Nine games to go. Brilliant tactical subs today and a bit of mahrez magic to win it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 05, 2016, 08:53:29 PM
And another dull as dishwater home performance for me to watch.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 05, 2016, 08:57:00 PM
You play so narrow and no runners from midfield. That has to be the focus from here to threaten from more areas on the pitch


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on March 05, 2016, 10:43:32 PM
Brilliant result and very much in your hands now.

Tyler said during the game at 0-0 that Leicester fans would take a guaranteed 3rd place in the league right now. Foolish man IMO.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 06, 2016, 02:57:25 AM
Hey Tighty - I've debriefed on the Watford form and got the negativity out.  Just wanted to wish you boys good luck for rest of season.  Shake it up lads!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 06, 2016, 02:58:50 AM
You play so narrow and no runners from midfield. That has to be the focus from here to threaten from more areas on the pitch

Yup.  Every season ticket holder bemoans than every midfielder sticks in his defensive spot.  I'm worried about next season if we keep doing this.  We're great away from home but can it last when we are a known quantity?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 06, 2016, 02:03:43 PM
82 points from the last 38 Premier League games for Leicester City.

W 24
D 10
L 4

GF 71 GA 38


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 06, 2016, 02:13:38 PM
82 points from the last 38 Premier League games for Leicester City.

W 24
D 10
L 4

GF 71 GA 38

It's already the most remarkable achievement in English (Welsh) top flight football. Best of luck for the rest of the season.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on March 06, 2016, 04:07:42 PM
Brilliant result and very much in your hands now.

Tyler said during the game at 0-0 that Leicester fans would take a guaranteed 3rd place in the league right now. Foolish man IMO.

Amazing to think Tyler was not to long ago a superb commentator. Completely gone at the gig last few seasons but this season a new low


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 07, 2016, 05:31:28 PM
Leicester City fan cashes out £72k on Premier League bet

this was before the watford win, was worth £91,000 a few hours later....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-35747633


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Post by: BorntoBubble on March 07, 2016, 07:08:50 PM
Leicester City fan cashes out £72k on Premier League bet

this was before the watford win, was worth £91,000 a few hours later....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-35747633

The bookies must be loving all this free PR, doing my head in.

On bets like this do people not think about taking financial advice? Most of the "big bets" i have seen the bookies have been creaming tens of thousands in value of the bets.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on March 07, 2016, 07:35:05 PM
Leicester City fan cashes out £72k on Premier League bet

this was before the watford win, was worth £91,000 a few hours later....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-35747633

Is this the first time this has been mentioned?

At the very least, there was some missed golden PR to snaffle here, surely?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 07, 2016, 07:41:08 PM
Leicester's relegation odds next season against their title odds? Regardless of if they win it this year or not. Relegation still be shorter?

Was talking about it on the train home on Saturday, this betting talk has reminded me of said conversation.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2016, 10:19:09 AM
Leicester's relegation odds next season against their title odds? Regardless of if they win it this year or not. Relegation still be shorter?

Was talking about it on the train home on Saturday, this betting talk has reminded me of said conversation.

lower, definitely

should be too, likely to have a lot more games and as we saw with hull, swansea and others european football on the smaller squads is a big drag


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2016, 10:20:25 AM
Leicester City fan cashes out £72k on Premier League bet

this was before the watford win, was worth £91,000 a few hours later....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-35747633

Is this the first time this has been mentioned?

At the very least, there was some missed golden PR to snaffle here, surely?

an actuary at Pinnacle worked out that the "fair value" of the cash out at the time was £117,000

i suppose its a bit like deal or no deal, once you get to "life changing money" it becomes less about EV and more about securing a return for most people, so the "banker" can adjust the offer accordingly


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2016, 10:20:38 AM
Leicester fans celebrate goal so loudly it was picked up as a quake on the Richter scale

http://thesun.uk/6012BeV9Y 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2016, 06:15:56 PM
and another

William Hill ‏@sharpeangle

Leicester fan who bet £20ew at 2500/1 on them a week after first game & stood to collect £66,706.67 has cashed in his bet for £29,788

real ev over £40k!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on March 08, 2016, 06:34:20 PM
I can't find any excuse for cashing out an EW bet with the place virtually assured.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on March 08, 2016, 06:37:29 PM
Only two places Ralph ante post on EPL e/w bets.  Leics only a 1/2 shot to finish in the top 2 currently.  EV of the above bet at 1/3 1,2 place terms is roughly £33k.  Not the worst cash out at £29k (close to £30k actually) for a casual small stakes punter.  Very rare you get to cash out on DOND so close to the true value.  If the guy is pretty skint and uses the cash sensibly paying off any debts he will save well in advance of the £3k in ev lost in saved interest payments on debt/credit cards/mortgage and, more importantly, have zero variance on the biggest winning bet he/she will probably ever have in their life.  Easy cash out for the vast majority of small stakes punters imo.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on March 08, 2016, 07:21:07 PM
Only two places Ralph ante post on EPL e/w bets.  Leics only a 1/2 shot to finish in the top 2 currently.  EV of the above bet at 1/3 1,2 place terms is roughly £33k.  Not the worst cash out at £29k (close to £30k actually) for a casual small stakes punter.  Very rare you get to cash out on DOND so close to the true value.  If the guy is pretty skint and uses the cash sensibly paying off any debts he will save well in advance of the £3k in ev lost in saved interest payments on debt/credit cards/mortgage and, more importantly, have zero variance on the biggest winning bet he/she will probably ever have in their life.  Easy cash out for the vast majority of small stakes punters imo.





Ah okay that explains it, I didn't realise it was only two places.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2016, 01:13:11 PM
Christian Fuchs

No ordinary footballer

http://buff.ly/1XktdS0


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: AndrewT on March 12, 2016, 01:22:54 PM
Interesting little stat Sky just showed - Leicester have made just 25 changes to their starting lineup in the league this season, the team with the second least has made 39.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2016, 01:26:08 PM
Interesting little stat Sky just showed - Leicester have made just 25 changes to their starting lineup in the league this season, the team with the second least has made 39.

1. been either or both of a) very fortunate with injuries or b) brilliant sports science team that has really managed them well

eg kante tweaks a hamstring, is playing 90 minutes six days later

2. had no more than two of the 25 man squad out for any match this season

3. of course the form has been so good from 1-11 that there has been no need to change the team much

4. no european football, out of the fa cup in the third round so no need to rotate, plenty of recvoery time before each game



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdWRN_CXIAEkKrU.jpg)


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Post by: tikay on March 12, 2016, 01:29:56 PM

Think I read somewhere that Leicester have only used 15 different (starting) players in the EPL this season?


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Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2016, 01:34:17 PM

Think I read somewhere that Leicester have only used 15 different (starting) players in the EPL this season?

18 i think

Kasper
RDL
Simpson
Amartey
Wes
Huth
wasyl
fuchs
schlupp
mahrez
albrighton
king
inler
danny d
kante
ulloa
vardy
okazaki


dyer
chilwell
gray

off the bench

schwarzer unused on the bench


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on March 12, 2016, 03:35:51 PM
Leicester tinkered with going odds on for the first time on betfair for the title as Man City draw away at Norwich.  The more you look at the price the more it looks too big right?  Evens with only Spurs and Arsenal chasing you? 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DropTheHammer on March 12, 2016, 07:23:21 PM
Leicester tinkered with going odds on for the first time on betfair for the title as Man City draw away at Norwich.  The more you look at the price the more it looks too big right?  Evens with only Spurs and Arsenal chasing you? 

You've turned 180 regarding Leicester's title challenge Arbboy-did you lay them much earlier on in the season when you were convinced they'd drop off?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on March 12, 2016, 09:22:42 PM
Leicester tinkered with going odds on for the first time on betfair for the title as Man City draw away at Norwich.  The more you look at the price the more it looks too big right?  Evens with only Spurs and Arsenal chasing you?  

You've turned 180 regarding Leicester's title challenge Arbboy-did you lay them much earlier on in the season when you were convinced they'd drop off?

Yes i have laid them to lose a lot of money months ago at double figure prices.  Doesn't mean they can't be a cracking bet now at evens.  I don't worry about previous positions affecting future investments.  Spots like this normally create value because mugs get tied to bets and can't see the woods for the trees and their egos are too big to change their mind so to speak.  The mugs that backed them at huge prices cashing out now and happy to lay 'wrong' prices to green up create profitable betting spots long term.  You don't need to know nothing about soccer now to understand Leics are highly likely to be too big.  Just have an understanding of how wagons think and how markets work.  

I like laying number 32 on a roulette wheel at 20/1 now the price is 50/1 i want to be a backer.  It really is that simple.  All about price buddy.

Nice rub btw if you are reminding me that i am about to lose a fortune if Leics do hang on.  Appreciate it.  Amazing you can remember that far back given i assume you haven't got an interest yourself.  Never see many positives from yourself just the results orientated negative stuff after the event about my stuff.  Miss the bias stuff this morning and last night on tft?  Never see you comment about stuff like that when the going is good.  I take it you are not an arb fan which is fair enough.  There is a big fan club to join to be a member of that club.

Adz donk is in charge of membership details for the results orientated guessers (amazing how many members of this results orientated guessers club there are on here nowadays compared to 3 years ago.  Used to be a place for shrewdies in 2012 who could see the bigger picture and got the game) if you are interested. PM him for details.  


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DropTheHammer on March 12, 2016, 11:52:35 PM
You may find this incomprehensible, but 'no' I don't follow your tips. I regularly thank others who I follow in on their tips, and would have done the same for you, but hardly any of the short-odds/max bet/+ev ones I did from you came in.

Adz on the other hand, who you strangely target above, has a great record for finding winners for me so thumbs up to him!

No hard feelings, and im not looking to start a row as I imagine you'll be pretty Stella'd up by now  ;-)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: mondatoo on March 13, 2016, 12:59:40 AM
1. been either or both of a) very fortunate with injuries

You really think there's any discussion other than they've cllearly god moded with injuries ?



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on March 13, 2016, 01:06:12 AM
Leicester tinkered with going odds on for the first time on betfair for the title as Man City draw away at Norwich.  The more you look at the price the more it looks too big right?  Evens with only Spurs and Arsenal chasing you?  

You've turned 180 regarding Leicester's title challenge Arbboy-did you lay them much earlier on in the season when you were convinced they'd drop off?

Yes i have laid them to lose a lot of money months ago at double figure prices.  Doesn't mean they can't be a cracking bet now at evens.  I don't worry about previous positions affecting future investments.  Spots like this normally create value because mugs get tied to bets and can't see the woods for the trees and their egos are too big to change their mind so to speak.  The mugs that backed them at huge prices cashing out now and happy to lay 'wrong' prices to green up create profitable betting spots long term.  You don't need to know nothing about soccer now to understand Leics are highly likely to be too big.  Just have an understanding of how wagons think and how markets work.  

I like laying number 32 on a roulette wheel at 20/1 now the price is 50/1 i want to be a backer.  It really is that simple.  All about price buddy.

Nice rub btw if you are reminding me that i am about to lose a fortune if Leics do hang on.  Appreciate it.  Amazing you can remember that far back given i assume you haven't got an interest yourself.  Never see many positives from yourself just the results orientated negative stuff after the event about my stuff.  Miss the bias stuff this morning and last night on tft?  Never see you comment about stuff like that when the going is good.  I take it you are not an arb fan which is fair enough.  There is a big fan club to join to be a member of that club.

Adz donk is in charge of membership details for the results orientated guessers (amazing how many members of this results orientated guessers club there are on here nowadays compared to 3 years ago.  Used to be a place for shrewdies in 2012 who could see the bigger picture and got the game) if you are interested. PM him for details.  

Quit with the Adz bashing and personal insults please Argue, I don't want to see any more of this.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 13, 2016, 01:51:14 PM
1. been either or both of a) very fortunate with injuries

You really think there's any discussion other than they've cllearly god moded with injuries ?



clearly that is the most likely explanation

there is a view that the huge investment in sports science the club has made has made a real impact on lessening the number of muscle injuries

to quantify this the thai owner investment is now up at £170m, and has included not only buying the stadium, clearing off the debt, playing staff, management, scouting but it is is estimated over £40m on sports science teams, equipment etc. all of which has been FFP allowable/ an FFPoffset. 

i went on a training ground tour recently and its like walking round a small hospital, in parts

the club runs seminars on sports science, eg attended last summer by Arsenal, spurs amongst others and a fortnight ago on recovery times and individual training pans etc attended by clubs across Erope

clearly no back-room team can do anything about breaks, cruciates etc and clearly a lower number of games this season than the big boys is a factor allowing recovery plans etc but when you look at the incidence of muscle injuries at arsenal, united etc and compare to us, over three seasons since the big investment by the new owners on this, you might conclude there is something in it over and above the good fortune you allude to


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 13, 2016, 03:47:27 PM


That seems a ridiculously high investment on equipment Tighty when you think they could have used the money to buy Benteke  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on March 14, 2016, 08:28:37 PM
predictions?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 14, 2016, 10:47:40 PM
Nervy performance and as we know not very effective against sides that defend deep and narrow. Nice goal.kante brilliant. Win when playing poorly .Job done. Now the 45 min queue to get out of the car park!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: AndrewT on March 14, 2016, 10:50:20 PM
Of course, the real person behind all this success isn't Mahrez, or Vardy, or Ranieri.

It's Philippa Langley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippa_Langley)

Since Richard III was reburied at Leicester Cathedral Leicester in the league have 25 wins, 10 draws and 4 defeats.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DropTheHammer on March 14, 2016, 11:05:18 PM
Well done Leicester, 99% of football fans want them to win the premier league, the rest are Spurs supporters!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on March 14, 2016, 11:08:18 PM
Poor game but Winning ugly the sign of champions.

Destiny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 14, 2016, 11:18:11 PM
Gave up a steak for that tonight




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 15, 2016, 02:39:15 AM
Gave up a steak for that tonight




Did you still get the blowjob though?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on March 15, 2016, 03:39:32 AM
Is this the lowest amount of injuries any team has ever received in the premiership. I think the real reason they are going to win the league is the physics, must be doing something amazingly well.

Next year so important to sign 6-7 players but that will potentially disrupt a lot of stuff.

Pre season will be intriguing.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 15, 2016, 11:19:12 AM

Next year so important to sign 6-7 players but that will potentially disrupt a lot of stuff.


first priority will be to keep mahrez if we can

second priority will be to get depth into the squad, not even the healing hands of baby jesus will keep us injury free if we are playing twice a week for some of next season


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 15, 2016, 11:19:42 AM
Ronald is a good judge

we have southampton after teh international break, which will be a tough game

"He's a great player" - Ronald Koeman was impressed with N'Golo Kante in Leicester's MNF win http://skysports.tv/6eRUNd 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 15, 2016, 11:21:12 AM
Caley

he thinks W4 D2 L2 from here might do it

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cdi4SjWW8AAu-hl.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on March 15, 2016, 11:24:33 AM
Kante could be he best in the world at what he does, seriously impressive.

If he doesn't go to euros and Sissoko does it's an absolute travesty.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 15, 2016, 11:26:04 AM
“The more Leicester pass, the less Leicester score.”

interesting research

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/mar/13/leicester-city-outflanked-foxes-claudio-ranieri?CMP=share_btn_tw



you can see this watching matches. defending deep and narrow and saying "right play through us" is the way to stop us. Newcastle did, more or less

give us a high defensive line to play against, ball on the counter and away we go.

Until a fortnight ago we'd gone all season without teams trying to stop us, only Klopp/Liverpool set up to counter us rather than attack us

now the last few teams have set up as if we were a big team, the performances are poorer, we are scraping through etc etc


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 15, 2016, 11:29:55 AM
Kante could be he best in the world at what he does, seriously impressive.

If he doesn't go to euros and Sissoko does it's an absolute travesty.

it was a serious piece of scouting, then a serious piece of persuasion to get him to come to us

Before i saw him, i read that he was like Makalele. You can see the similarity in style. Kante can spot a pass too and hopefully goes on to be as good as makalele.

Interestingly steve walsh the head of scouting too makalele to chelsea when he was there

Deschamps has just called him into the squad for two friendlies upcoming, hopefully he does well.

watching him live is something else, absolutely never stops running, wins a lot of tackles, shields the back four and then is found breaking forward too



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 17, 2016, 12:33:40 PM
Well done to Drinkwater for getting a call up.  We all know the visionary Hodgson will jettison him for the Euros if Wilshire manages 30 minutes for Arsenal but at least he is getting well deserved recognition.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 19, 2016, 05:42:59 PM
8 points clear

not sure how as we were under pressure at times today, but we are.

fantastic, magnificent and wonderful


alan pardew's programme notes. lol, sour grapes united

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd64GrKXEAA36ny.jpg)




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on March 19, 2016, 05:46:06 PM
Another great result. 1-0 sign of champions.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 19, 2016, 06:10:57 PM
Leicester have now kept 9 clean sheets in their last 13 league games.

three 1-0 in a row

Schmeichel was absolutely magnificent today, but Huth has been just fantastic. turning circle of a cross channel ferry but very very clever, anticipates where to be match after match


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: baldock92 on March 19, 2016, 06:18:19 PM
I can't quite believe just how good Huth has been for you. He was a rock for us at CB for years, but after his injury he seemed a shell of his former self and that selling him onto you was a good piece of business. I love the bloke so I'm happy to see him doing well again, it's just a shame that with shawcross' present injury concerns we don't have him to play along side Wolly for a m efficiently German partnership.

Another great 3 points, keep it up.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on March 19, 2016, 06:35:26 PM
Wow at Pardew notes is he fkn serious? Hhaha


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 20, 2016, 02:18:24 PM
Before yesterday's game James Weller cashed out his 5000/1 £10 bet on Leicester to win the league for £21k

(weep, i think 5 points clear and Palace away i would have run it, but who knows)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on March 20, 2016, 07:39:57 PM
FFS as much as i want you guys to win the league i cant have you beating the saints in the next match

i hate games like that where you want both teams to win for different reasons


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 21, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
FFS as much as i want you guys to win the league i cant have you beating the saints in the next match

i hate games like that where you want both teams to win for different reasons


its going to be a very difficult match, great comeback yesterday

in our favour, i sense you might come out and play a bit, so we might have some space. if i am watching correctly, southampton tend to play quite a high line.

in your favour, pelle/mane etc will be the biggest test our back four have seen in a while


for now, we have 16 (times have changed!) players on international duty so hoping they all come back fit. apart from perhaps spurs and kane, there is no single player more important to his team than mahrez for us, since Xmas he has won us games we would have drawn without his goals from nowhere, and he's off to ANC qualifiers.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 22, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
moving up inthe world

Leicester City will face Barcelona in Stockholm as part of the International Champions Cup, it has been announced.

City will face the European champions on Wednesday, August 3 in the Swedish capital, just four days after they take on Paris Saint-Germain in Los Angeles.

City will also face Scottish champions Celtic in Glasgow on Saturday, July 23, it was announced at a press conference in New York today.

City have been invited to take part in the lucrative pre-season friendly tournament because of their phenomenal rise to the summit of the Premier League this season.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 22, 2016, 03:32:16 PM
lol. hopefully lucrative for us.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeKNhu4UsAALYpU.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on March 22, 2016, 04:51:23 PM
Playing fast and loose with the word champions there.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 22, 2016, 04:59:36 PM
Playing fast and loose with the word champions there.

agreed, much like the champions league itself

whole thing is up its own backside, but might as well be inside the tent than outside looking in


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on March 22, 2016, 05:10:53 PM
Playing fast and loose with the word champions there.

agreed, much like the champions league itself

whole thing is up its own backside, but might as well be inside the tent than outside looking in

meh, the toon have got a 46 game championship lined up.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on March 22, 2016, 05:30:06 PM
Does show how far Leicester have come and that's a helluva line up from the rest of Europe, not sure how they'd view being lumped in the English tier 2 with Chelsea & Liverpool


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 22, 2016, 05:33:43 PM
even though the mere mention of it is putting the cart before the horse, this is ridiculous.

Leicester to be placed in top Champions League pot if they win the Premier League. More: http://skysports.tv/Cx1Ou7 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeKpOpIW8AEiT7B.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 22, 2016, 06:12:57 PM
even though the mere mention of it is putting the cart before the horse, this is ridiculous.

Leicester to be placed in top Champions League pot if they win the Premier League. More: http://skysports.tv/Cx1Ou7 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeKpOpIW8AEiT7B.jpg)

Good. Win league get in pot 1.  Arsenal can go in pot 4.  What's not to like?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on March 22, 2016, 06:21:07 PM


Ha, get you.

Enjoy, I know all of football will share the journey.

Best thing that's happened in the Premier League for many a moon, the Old Order is in tatters, with Spurs, West Ham, Southampton & Stoke all in the Top 10, & starting to threaten.   


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 22, 2016, 06:31:27 PM
I'm about 17 weeks too late, but I'm finally gonna transfer in Kasper and Huth into my fantasy team.

I was running away with my league, now I'm 4th. If only I didn't announce in February that I was intending to change my team name next season.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 22, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
I'm about 17 weeks too late, but I'm finally gonna transfer in Kasper and Huth into my fantasy team.

I was running away with my league, now I'm 4th. If only I didn't announce in February that I was intending to change my team name next season.

Fuchs not Huth please

cheaper, plenty of assists and he is going to score a free kick any game now


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on March 22, 2016, 06:36:15 PM


Ha, get you.

Enjoy, I know all of football will share the journey.

Best thing that's happened in the Premier League for many a moon, the Old Order is in tatters, with Spurs, West Ham, Southampton & Stoke all in the Top 10, & starting to threaten.   

I really wasn't enjoying it - was brought up singing 'We all follow the Arsenal, over land and sea (and Leicester)' -  seems no dignity in finishing behind Leicester :-)

But I'm coming round. Heard some lazy pundits the other day talking about how big Arsenal, City et al had to spend in the summer to win the league next year and it fair had me steaming. Literally shouting, ffs, Leicester are about to win the farkin league and we all have to spend big ?

How about buying/developing better players, how about solid tactics and a decent dose of desire. Premier league Football is just beyond ridiculous with the money, expectation and entitlement feelings and so I got a grip of myself (have shed my sense of entitlement) and decided to enjoy Leicester winning if they do and stick one in the eye of the fatter cats.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on March 22, 2016, 06:48:50 PM
^^^^^

Amen to that.

Just because some teams are awash with cash does not mean they have to spend it on transfer fees or that it will guarantee success.

Plenty of evidence around to support this.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 22, 2016, 06:56:02 PM
^^^^^

Amen to that.

Just because some teams are awash with cash does not mean they have to spend it on transfer fees or that it will guarantee success.

Plenty of evidence around to support this.

Agreed there are going to be some shocking 15 million pound players next season I reckon.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on March 22, 2016, 07:03:46 PM
I'm about 17 weeks too late, but I'm finally gonna transfer in Kasper and Huth into my fantasy team.

I was running away with my league, now I'm 4th. If only I didn't announce in February that I was intending to change my team name next season.

Fuchs not Huth please

cheaper, plenty of assists and he is going to score a free kick any game now

i went and dropped kasper so i could put Huth into my team (only 3 players per team) so brought in forster just when kasper started scoring points and forster start letting goals in

dont you just hate fantasy

tighty why fuchs and not huth?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 22, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
I'm about 17 weeks too late, but I'm finally gonna transfer in Kasper and Huth into my fantasy team.

I was running away with my league, now I'm 4th. If only I didn't announce in February that I was intending to change my team name next season.

Fuchs not Huth please

cheaper, plenty of assists and he is going to score a free kick any game now

i went and dropped kasper so i could put Huth into my team (only 3 players per team) so brought in forster just when kasper started scoring points and forster start letting goals in

dont you just hate fantasy

tighty why fuchs and not huth?

we have had 9 clean sheets in 13 games so a lot of teams are going to have 1 or 2 leicester defenders in them. i think i would have 1 not 2 from here as southampton, west ham etc doesn't compare too favourably to the recent run of norwich, west brom, palace, newcastle etc

kasper is popular in teams

Huth also because he pops up with set piece goals

but i want to be a bit contrarian and score points when other teams aren't

Fuchs last time i looked was cheaper than huth and at schalke was a free kick specialist.

he takes corners and gets up for crosses so assists are a possibility 

not many will have him, so if he comes off one game you'll have a point of difference relative to other teams

someone like Dazzler is better at this than me, but i have Fuchs when my main oppo all have kasper/huth



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 22, 2016, 07:18:40 PM
just looked

fuchs £5m owned by 5%

huth £4.9m owned by 15%

ergo if fuchs come off you stand a chance of making progress relative to others, need to fade huth at set pieces

Kasper £4.7m owned by 12%


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 22, 2016, 07:23:57 PM
Hadn't considered Fuchs, food for thought. Is Morgan not a decent shout as well, assuming he's significantly less popular than Huth? Less of a set piece threat but offset by his lack of popularity.

fml what has my life come to.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 22, 2016, 07:34:23 PM
Hadn't considered Fuchs, food for thought. Is Morgan not a decent shout as well, assuming he's significantly less popular than Huth? Less of a set piece threat but offset by his lack of popularity.

fml what has my life come to.

Morgan also only selected by 5%

significantly less chance of attacking points though, same as Danny Smpson

against that £700k cheaper


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on March 22, 2016, 07:44:06 PM
Fuchs is a bonus point magnet as well. Havne't seen much of Leicester this season that isn't match of the day, but he must put himself about a  bit.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on March 22, 2016, 08:47:17 PM
Fuchs is a bonus point magnet as well. Havne't seen much of Leicester this season that isn't match of the day, but he must put himself about a  bit.

Very much this.
I have a big problem with the bonus points system but as it stands, Fuchs is the best Leicester defender to have.
Having said that, you probably shouldn't be buying any Leicester players at all at the moment. With the double gameweeks (DGW) coming up, you should probably be loading up on DGW players.
But that's another story........:)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on March 22, 2016, 09:46:58 PM
even though the mere mention of it is putting the cart before the horse, this is ridiculous.

Leicester to be placed in top Champions League pot if they win the Premier League. More: http://skysports.tv/Cx1Ou7  

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeKpOpIW8AEiT7B.jpg)

I love that. It would look even better if Kiev were replaced by the CL winner if Real Madrid, Atletico or, with a miracle, City won it.

Totally rooting for Leicester to win the league now  and, whilst City are at risk,  a top 4 of  Leicester, Spurs, City and West Ham would be brilliant with none of the original Big 4 making it through :)

The important question is how do you FEEL right now?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on March 22, 2016, 10:39:08 PM
Is putting the top seeds as league winners a bit of an up yours to the clubs talking about wildcards for big clubs?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on March 22, 2016, 10:50:48 PM
Is putting the top seeds as league winners a bit of an up yours to the clubs talking about wildcards for big clubs?

It was introduced for the first time this season and pre-dates the current wildcard nonsense. UEFA gave these reasons:

Infantino said before it ws introduced “People had difficulties in understanding how the champion of a country is in a lower pot than the third-ranked in that country.

“This will give another dynamic with the draw and in the way the groups are composed. It will be approved with the regulations at the start of next year.

“The club committee felt that there should be somehow an additional award given to the winners of the different national competitions.”

If the league finishes Leicester, Spurs, City, Arsenal  then under the old system Arsenal would go through the qualifying game to get to the group stage and then because their coefficient is still good they would be seeded in Pot 1. City would be Pot 2, Spurs Pot 3 and Leciester Pot 4. Strikes me that the new system is better!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 22, 2016, 11:00:14 PM
Is putting the top seeds as league winners a bit of an up yours to the clubs talking about wildcards for big clubs?

It was introduced for the first time this season and pre-dates the current wildcard nonsense. UEFA gave these reasons:

Infantino said before it ws introduced “People had difficulties in understanding how the champion of a country is in a lower pot than the third-ranked in that country.

“This will give another dynamic with the draw and in the way the groups are composed. It will be approved with the regulations at the start of next year.

“The club committee felt that there should be somehow an additional award given to the winners of the different national competitions.”

If the league finishes Leicester, Spurs, City, Arsenal  then under the old system Arsenal would go through the qualifying game to get to the group stage and then because their coefficient is still good they would be seeded in Pot 1. City would be Pot 2, Spurs Pot 3 and Leciester Pot 4. Strikes me that the new system is better!

I think when we got drawn in the 'group of champions' a few years ago (City, Madrid, Ajax and Dortmund) kinda brought it home how archaic the seeding system was. I think if you win the league then you deserve top billing.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 22, 2016, 11:10:08 PM
Is putting the top seeds as league winners a bit of an up yours to the clubs talking about wildcards for big clubs?

I think it is driven by Arsenal consistently coming 4th in the league, getting dirt easy group as number 1 seed and then being anihilated as soon as they play anything of merit in the knockout round.  Arsenal were a poster child for champions league mediocrity, a complete waste of space,  so thankfully they have made a change.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: craigbetts on March 23, 2016, 08:09:59 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35885067

Could be worth a listen.  Especially as we are all Foxes fans now  ;)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on March 23, 2016, 08:49:50 PM
Hadn't considered Fuchs, food for thought. Is Morgan not a decent shout as well, assuming he's significantly less popular than Huth? Less of a set piece threat but offset by his lack of popularity.

fml what has my life come to.

Morgan also only selected by 5%

significantly less chance of attacking points though, same as Danny Smpson

against that £700k cheaper
ok i will stick with huth as i need the regular points for the H2H league


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on March 23, 2016, 11:49:56 PM
Fuchs is a bonus point magnet as well. Havne't seen much of Leicester this season that isn't match of the day, but he must put himself about a  bit.

Very much this.
I have a big problem with the bonus points system but as it stands, Fuchs is the best Leicester defender to have.
Having said that, you probably shouldn't be buying any Leicester players at all at the moment. With the double gameweeks (DGW) coming up, you should probably be loading up on DGW players.
But that's another story........:)

What Tom said. Fuchs in a bonus points magnet - says the man who benched him against Palace - below is a link to a spreadsheet (not my work) that has the baseline BPS for every defender in the game. By baseline that means it doesn't take into account any positive actions (goals, assists etc) or negative actions (yellow cards, red cards etc). It's a good indicator of which defenders are likely to pick up bonus points in 1-0/2-0 wins and also those that will pick up three or two BPS should they score/assist.

Note how far Fuchs is ahead of his Leicester counterparts, how Williams - who has the most BPS of any defender - crushes at Swansea etc. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WN7wHzk8VeoCdPEZM40uFi0UVUVM81RU9dNl5R1GlBc/pubhtml#


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on March 23, 2016, 11:50:14 PM
Tighty did you listen to the Leicester: The Impossible Team documentary on Radio 5 tonight? I caught the first half live and thought it was very good. Will catch up with the second half via iplayer/podcast.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 24, 2016, 10:40:53 AM
Tighty did you listen to the Leicester: The Impossible Team documentary on Radio 5 tonight? I caught the first half live and thought it was very good. Will catch up with the second half via iplayer/podcast.

i have the podcast bookmarked to listen to asap, thanks


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 28, 2016, 01:27:01 PM
 Leicester City: How Thailand is falling in love with the Foxes http://bbc.in/1Sp5KOq


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 28, 2016, 05:38:03 PM
lol I used to support Liverpool :)

I'm going Thailand in October, wonder how much it will have changed in the 2 years since I've been? Was almost 100% united, Chelsea and dippers shirts, with a smattering of arsenal/spuds/city gear (plus the usual Messi/Ronaldo bits), genuinely don't remember seeing a single Leicester shirt/item.

This was pre racist sex orgy video though, maybe their profile went through the roof after that?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 28, 2016, 05:47:31 PM
lol I used to support Liverpool :)

I'm going Thailand in October, wonder how much it will have changed in the 2 years since I've been? Was almost 100% united, Chelsea and dippers shirts, with a smattering of arsenal/spuds/city gear (plus the usual Messi/Ronaldo bits), genuinely don't remember seeing a single Leicester shirt/item.

This was pre racist sex orgy video though, maybe their profile went through the roof after that?

the profile went through the roof when we were bought by thai billionaires

they own the king power duty free business, a huge company

so when you go into bangkok airport you'll find a leicester city club shop in arrivals, one in departures....


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on March 28, 2016, 07:50:02 PM
Was in Perth, Australia last week and saw my first ever Leicester shirt outside of England. Kid of about 14 wearing it. Can't imagine he was a fan during the Yuki Abe years.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 28, 2016, 07:57:55 PM
lol I used to support Liverpool :)

I'm going Thailand in October, wonder how much it will have changed in the 2 years since I've been? Was almost 100% united, Chelsea and dippers shirts, with a smattering of arsenal/spuds/city gear (plus the usual Messi/Ronaldo bits), genuinely don't remember seeing a single Leicester shirt/item.

This was pre racist sex orgy video though, maybe their profile went through the roof after that?

the profile went through the roof when we were bought by thai billionaires

they own the king power duty free business, a huge company

so when you go into bangkok airport you'll find a leicester city club shop in arrivals, one in departures....

I'll have to keep my eyes peeled better next time as I didn't see them last time I went and flew in/out of Bangkok.

I just wanna see a big cardboard cut out of Vardy.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on March 28, 2016, 08:04:28 PM
It's in the newer airport. If you went through the old one then you wouldn't have seen it.

Something like that anyway, I remember reading about it before Leicester were cool to support.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 28, 2016, 08:11:14 PM
It's in the newer airport. If you went through the old one then you wouldn't have seen it.

Something like that anyway, I remember reading about it before Leicester were cool to support.

I flew to/from the main airport in Bangkok (BKK), didn't use the more regional airport DMK thats also in Bangkok. Was only back end of 2014 so fairly recent. Tbf when I flew home I had some extreme (to me) food poisoning and the whole journey back to Manchester is a blur, so I easy could've missed a Leicester shop in departures.

I hope to be in peak physical condition when I pass through this time.

Right, off to buy some reduced Easter eggs.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 29, 2016, 12:43:09 AM
Tighty/Leicester fans. Do you want Vardy and/or Drinkwater to start for England tommorow?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 29, 2016, 01:05:46 AM
Tighty/Leicester fans. Do you want Vardy and/or Drinkwater to start for England tommorow?

I would love to see Drinky get a game - he's earned it. Vardy should be in there also but I fear Roy won't use him as he should. After all he wouldn't want him to have a great game and then have to choose Vardy over Welbeck, Sturridge or Rooney as they were such a lethal combination in Rio!!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 29, 2016, 02:45:24 AM
Tighty/Leicester fans. Do you want Vardy and/or Drinkwater to start for England tommorow?

I would love to see Drinky get a game - he's earned it. Vardy should be in there also but I fear Roy won't use him as he should. After all he wouldn't want him to have a great game and then have to choose Vardy over Welbeck, Sturridge or Rooney as they were such a lethal combination in Rio!!



I more meant to injuries.

I always thought it was great to see our Sunderland players get a game for England (not that weve had many) but we never really had anything to play for when Kevin Phillips was getting a game.

Slightly different for the Leicester boys. Although you could argue the league is already over....


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 29, 2016, 10:39:07 AM
Tighty/Leicester fans. Do you want Vardy and/or Drinkwater to start for England tommorow?

Yes.

I would like to see Vardy start up top, and play for an hour. Looks like Sturridge does though.

Vardy's main skill, pace off the last man and balls in behind, not utilised too effectively if he's playing wide in an attacking three behind a single striker. Until he played up front with Kane when chasing the game in Berlin, he'd only been used out wide in his previous four caps

Drinkwater has to start if you want to get a good look at him. hopefully he will. if he doesn't make it to the euros fair enough, but need to take a proper look to know


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 29, 2016, 02:23:31 PM
Tighty/Leicester fans. Do you want Vardy and/or Drinkwater to start for England tommorow?

I would love to see Drinky get a game - he's earned it. Vardy should be in there also but I fear Roy won't use him as he should. After all he wouldn't want him to have a great game and then have to choose Vardy over Welbeck, Sturridge or Rooney as they were such a lethal combination in Rio!!



I more meant to injuries.

I always thought it was great to see our Sunderland players get a game for England (not that weve had many) but we never really had anything to play for when Kevin Phillips was getting a game.

Slightly different for the Leicester boys. Although you could argue the league is already over....

If the league is already over I wish somebody would tell my butt - it's been going half a crown sixpence for weeks now!!

Naturally we would hope to see all our "ships" return unharmed and it would be tragic having to lose a player at this stage because of a friendly but that's a sad fact of being a success. I've spent the last few days scanning games all over the world to keep up with how the various players have performed, but more to ensure all are well.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2016, 02:43:45 PM
Timmy.

Being such a massive Leicester fan(take that how you like.x), and a gambler, i assume you are clutching a ticket with ridic odds on your team winning the title? :)

Your next million?

Best regards

Adz


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 29, 2016, 06:03:31 PM
Timmy.

Being such a massive Leicester fan(take that how you like.x), and a gambler, i assume you are clutching a ticket with ridic odds on your team winning the title? :)

Your next million?

Best regards

Adz


 "Big" adz (take that how you like X) the answer is no!

Why else do you think they are doing so well?

You of all people should know a £ from me is a bullet in the head!

Surely you haven't forgot Phantom Whisper yet? Lol





Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2016, 06:07:20 PM
Timmy.

Being such a massive Leicester fan(take that how you like.x), and a gambler, i assume you are clutching a ticket with ridic odds on your team winning the title? :)

Your next million?

Best regards

Adz


 "Big" adz (take that how you like X) the answer is no!

Why else do you think they are doing so well?

You of all people should know a £ from me is a bullet in the head!

Surely you haven't forgot Phantom Whisper yet? Lol






How could I ever forget bud! Hope you are well, and enjoying the ride. Fingers firmly crossed for you.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on March 29, 2016, 06:08:34 PM
Only found out this season that Tim was a footy fan  ;scarymoment;


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 29, 2016, 07:08:50 PM
Yeah fine Adam - we keep saying it -  but must meet up soon!

Marky, only the Man U fans aren't talking about football this season lol. You of all people should know how Joe rekindled my love with the Vardy is crap post ha ha!




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 29, 2016, 07:35:38 PM
Drinkwater starts.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 29, 2016, 07:38:31 PM
drinkwater and vardy start

fingers crossed, eyes shut, prod me if we have a problem at 10pm


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on March 29, 2016, 07:47:22 PM
Yeah fine Adam - we keep saying it -  but must meet up soon!

Marky, only the Man U fans aren't talking about football this season lol. You of all people should know how Joe rekindled my love with the Vardy is crap post ha ha!



Not all of us ;D

I'm still talking about footy, and this is the best season I can remember!

Joe probably wishes he knew how to delete threads, given some of the pearlers he has started on Football :D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 29, 2016, 07:56:08 PM
kante starts for france

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ceu-zPDWAAIszVd.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on March 29, 2016, 09:05:25 PM
Kante scores!  He hasn't managed that in premier league since the Gomes gaff!?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 29, 2016, 09:44:40 PM
Steady first half from Drinky (apart from when he mistook Milner for Vardy) but apart from the goal all this tippy tappy don't suit Vardy's game and the pace we have upfront IMHO



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 29, 2016, 09:48:55 PM
Steady first half from Drinky (apart from when he mistook Milner for Vardy) but apart from the goal all this tippy tappy don't suit Vardy's game and the pace we have upfront IMHO


Steady first half from Drinky (apart from when he mistook Milner for Vardy) but apart from the goal all this tippy tappy don't suit Vardy's game and the pace we have upfront IMHO



the dutch have everyone behind the ball and defending on 18 yard box

vardy likes to go against a high line and balls in behind, no chance of that

going to be a very good sub in france.

Drinkwater's ok. never going to shine too much at the base of the diamond. competing with delph as back up to henderson/dier in the squad. probably misses out if jack wilshere is fit


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on March 30, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
this is a fabulous report

details the lcfc finances, strategy and sustainability of the model

also lots of things discussed as to why the PL is becoming more competitive for example flat prize money in the tv deal, limits in squad sizes/FFP to top clubs buying all the talent, why mid ranking clubs don't need to sell players etc etc

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/leicester-city-sweet-dreams-are-made-of.html


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on March 30, 2016, 04:30:06 PM


^^ superb find and read Sir!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on March 30, 2016, 08:53:35 PM
vardy on rooney's backs

https://twitter.com/itvfootball/status/714886729077895169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DMorgan on March 31, 2016, 12:27:20 PM
this is a fabulous report

details the lcfc finances, strategy and sustainability of the model

also lots of things discussed as to why the PL is becoming more competitive for example flat prize money in the tv deal, limits in squad sizes/FFP to top clubs buying all the talent, why mid ranking clubs don't need to sell players etc etc

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/leicester-city-sweet-dreams-are-made-of.html

Very good piece, ty


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 03, 2016, 03:55:11 PM
Does Jamie Vardy have to spit so many times?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 03, 2016, 04:18:16 PM
Get in

Another lucky 1-0 win, that's 13 lucky 1-0 wins now


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Cf on April 03, 2016, 04:27:38 PM
Get in

Another lucky 1-0 win, that's 13 lucky 1-0 wins now

As soon as you scored the overhead kick against us I had the feeling of I can see why you're going to win the league lol

Not saying it's luck but my god the stars seem to be aligning :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on April 03, 2016, 05:05:53 PM
It really is a miracle, especially regarding the injuries. Movie will surely be made of this.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 03, 2016, 05:15:47 PM
Does Jamie Vardy have to spit so many times?

Not the most pleasant of individuals


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on April 03, 2016, 07:15:26 PM
Get in

Another lucky 1-0 win, that's 13 lucky 1-0 wins now


"Boring Boring Leicester"


 rotflmfao rotflmfao


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 03, 2016, 08:39:36 PM
Destiny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on April 03, 2016, 09:33:21 PM
please teach england how to defend before the euros.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 04, 2016, 11:02:41 AM
In the last 12 months, Leicester City have won 91 points, 18 more than any other club (Spurs & Arsenal 73).


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 04, 2016, 11:04:00 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfItRUCXIAEzMzr.png)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 04, 2016, 11:05:39 AM
Why Leicester City are so hard to beat this season http://bbc.in/25F8Y7D 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfJnHxmXIAAiqyN.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfJlHvrWQAACmdz.jpg)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on April 04, 2016, 11:47:20 AM
Leicester's run of shut out's coincides with my decision to take Kasper out my dream team.   I deserve some credit. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on April 04, 2016, 02:22:28 PM
Leicester's run of shut out's coincides with my decision to take Kasper out my dream team.   I deserve some credit. 
snap


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on April 04, 2016, 07:41:59 PM
The new chef who specializes in lasagna is en route from London.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DropTheHammer on April 04, 2016, 08:19:06 PM
I work in financial education and a while ago I did a presentation at a conference to show how ridiculously unlikely/impossible(!) it was to pass one of our multiple-choice exams by guessing, as I worked out the odds were 7,500-1. At the time, these were the odds quoted for Gibraltar winning the World Cup...but now we see a 5000-1 shot is likely to land.

Some bookies are saying that they have never seen such a long-shot win (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03pzsqw), but can anyone here remember anything that's done so? There must have been tens of thousands of 5000-1 priced events quoted from bookies in the past, so it's about time one is going to win!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: ripple11 on April 04, 2016, 10:01:32 PM
I work in financial education and a while ago I did a presentation at a conference to show how ridiculously unlikely/impossible(!) it was to pass one of our multiple-choice exams by guessing, as I worked out the odds were 7,500-1. At the time, these were the odds quoted for Gibraltar winning the World Cup...but now we see a 5000-1 shot is likely to land.

Some bookies are saying that they have never seen such a long-shot win (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03pzsqw), but can anyone here remember anything that's done so? There must have been tens of thousands of 5000-1 priced events quoted from bookies in the past, so it's about time one is going to win!

I really hope there are some left who will hold their nerve.......the tabloids will need that front page picture of said fan with his Leicester shirt on, thumb up and £10 e/w bet slip in hand.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on April 05, 2016, 05:19:30 PM
So these doping claims against Leicester players (and other teams). I've seen a list of the Leicester players that the Doctor says he gave the PEDs to. This comes from an incredibly reliable source. I really hope it's not true and though I won't name specific players, there are five in total and it's essentially every single key Leicester player this season bar the GK and Mahrez.

Really hope it's not true.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 05, 2016, 05:32:45 PM
So these doping claims against Leicester players (and other teams). I've seen a list of the Leicester players that the Doctor says he gave the PEDs to. This comes from an incredibly reliable source. I really hope it's not true and though I won't name specific players, there are five in total and it's essentially every single key Leicester player this season bar the GK and Mahrez.

Really hope it's not true.

they had an unannounced visit from the doping authorities three weeks ago. nothing found. two players are tested at random from each side after every PL game too. nothing found. of course this in itself proves nothing, but i do find the time of this very odd

i thought the allegations in the sunday times were from six years ago? not the current squad? leicester, arsenal, chelsea and birmingham players?

and this doctor isnt exactly a reliable witness is he?

or are we talking about something/someone else?

lets hope there is nothing in it.

I knew for sure of a problem with recreational drugs in football. Know of two PL "injuries" this season where teams haven't been able to play players because they'd fail a drugs test for coke. Obviously PEDs is something else entirely




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on April 05, 2016, 05:51:33 PM
Rich, not sure if we're talking about different stories or not. The one I'm referencing is the one the Sunday Times broke on Sunday involving Dr Mark Bonar and is about current EPL players. First I've heard of the six years ago but you may be right on that, the list I've seen suggests it's from this season though. I'm not sure how realiable or otherwise he is as a source nor why this story has broke at this time.

As you say let's hope there's nothing in it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 05, 2016, 05:57:41 PM
Rich, not sure if we're talking about different stories or not. The one I'm referencing is the one the Sunday Times broke on Sunday involving Dr Mark Bonar and is about current EPL players. First I've heard of the six years ago but you may be right on that, the list I've seen suggests it's from this season though. I'm not sure how realiable or otherwise he is as a source nor why this story has broke at this time.

As you say let's hope there's nothing in it.

thanks, the same thing

i though the list was six years old, which the Doping authority dismissed on investigating two years ago (which probably means very little given how behind the curve they are), but may be wrong on that



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on April 05, 2016, 06:21:53 PM
So these doping claims against Leicester players (and other teams). I've seen a list of the Leicester players that the Doctor says he gave the PEDs to. This comes from an incredibly reliable source. I really hope it's not true and though I won't name specific players, there are five in total and it's essentially every single key Leicester player this season bar the GK and Mahrez.

Really hope it's not true.

they had an unannounced visit from the doping authorities three weeks ago. nothing found. two players are tested at random from each side after every PL game too. nothing found. of course this in itself proves nothing, but i do find the time of this very odd

i thought the allegations in the sunday times were from six years ago? not the current squad? leicester, arsenal, chelsea and birmingham players?

and this doctor isnt exactly a reliable witness is he?

or are we talking about something/someone else?

lets hope there is nothing in it.

I knew for sure of a problem with recreational drugs in football. Know of two PL "injuries" this season where teams haven't been able to play players because they'd fail a drugs test for coke. Obviously PEDs is something else entirely

LOL birmingham must be due a refund.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2016, 06:29:50 PM
So these doping claims against Leicester players (and other teams). I've seen a list of the Leicester players that the Doctor says he gave the PEDs to. This comes from an incredibly reliable source. I really hope it's not true and though I won't name specific players, there are five in total and it's essentially every single key Leicester player this season bar the GK and Mahrez.

Really hope it's not true.

they had an unannounced visit from the doping authorities three weeks ago. nothing found. two players are tested at random from each side after every PL game too. nothing found. of course this in itself proves nothing, but i do find the time of this very odd

i thought the allegations in the sunday times were from six years ago? not the current squad? leicester, arsenal, chelsea and birmingham players?

and this doctor isnt exactly a reliable witness is he?

or are we talking about something/someone else?

lets hope there is nothing in it.

I knew for sure of a problem with recreational drugs in football. Know of two PL "injuries" this season where teams haven't been able to play players because they'd fail a drugs test for coke. Obviously PEDs is something else entirely

LOL birmingham must be due a refund.

:D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 06, 2016, 10:30:37 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfTKojYWEAAW88-.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 07, 2016, 10:59:56 AM
Claudio Raneiri's open letter

Stirring Stuff

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-premier-league/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 07, 2016, 05:23:21 PM
john terry's ballot form, pfa player of the year, which he instagrammed

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfcyl7RWAAE72VA.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 07, 2016, 07:27:13 PM
john terry's ballot form, pfa player of the year, which he instagrammed

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfcyl7RWAAE72VA.jpg)

Looks like he is preparing the ground to get himself a deal at Leicester City.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: MereNovice on April 07, 2016, 09:10:05 PM
john terry's ballot form, pfa player of the year, which he instagrammed

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfcyl7RWAAE72VA.jpg)

Looks like he is preparing the ground to get himself a deal at Leicester City.

Looks like he got a woman to fill in the sheet for him.
I can't see him writing that neatly.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on April 08, 2016, 12:01:20 AM
Claudio Raneiri's open letter

Stirring Stuff

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-premier-league/

<3 Ranieri

So calm and appears to be very grounded. If he's not Manager of the Year it's been fixed.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 08, 2016, 12:49:55 AM
john terry's ballot form, pfa player of the year, which he instagrammed

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfcyl7RWAAE72VA.jpg)

Looks like he is preparing the ground to get himself a deal at Leicester City.

Ha, my thoughts exactly.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 08, 2016, 07:56:28 AM

^^^^

Well it would be a route into Champions Leaguer football for JT, which I gather is something he rather likes to be part of.

And I agree with Lord Spready - that is most certainly not JT's handwriting, though that is not necessarily sinister. Successful people have a little man to do these menial tasks. Plenners, for example, has someone to prepare his food, & Chompy has a special assistant to put out his wheelie-bin every Tuesday.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 08, 2016, 01:17:40 PM
Why N'Golo Kante is the best midfielder in the Premier League

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/08/why-ngolo-kante-is-the-best-midfielder-in-the-premier-league/?utm_source=dlvr.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 08, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CffxVs3WwAAstvm.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 08, 2016, 01:56:43 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfhMWggWwAAq11-.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 08, 2016, 04:14:18 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CffxVs3WwAAstvm.jpg)
The trophy of Doom, yours to lose now.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 10, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
Destiny

Sign of champions- everything going Leicesters way. How did Rodwell miss?!?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: ripple11 on April 10, 2016, 04:42:38 PM
As low as 1/12 now.

They have a chance.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 10, 2016, 04:53:08 PM
come on!

pretty dire first 60 minutes, controlled it for the last half hour

thanks to sunderland for using the high line with kaboul the last man, much appreciated. thats the first high defensive line we've seen for six weeks, and funnily enough vardy scores again

Kante was the best player on the pitch with quite a bit to spare. wonderful player.


Manchester United win would be fun now


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 10, 2016, 04:57:59 PM
Leicester have only been behind in a game in a premier league match for 47 minutes since october!

Now haven't conceded a goal since March 1st and 7 hours of play


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: anthonyl on April 10, 2016, 05:08:27 PM
Good stuff. Vardy and Kane both got triple rooneys league goals yet Rooney is no1 for hodgson!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 10, 2016, 05:12:04 PM
Kante reminds me of Roy Keane. Genuine box to box midfielder. Hope United slap a bid in


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 10, 2016, 05:14:40 PM
Kante reminds me of Roy Keane. Genuine box to box midfielder. Hope United slap a bid in

Will go for fortunes to PSG.

Reminds me of Makalele, but gets forward more too

He's quite homesick, misses France, I am told.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 10, 2016, 05:32:00 PM
Fair play. Rather that than to city or Chelsea etc


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 10, 2016, 05:39:08 PM
Key point is we don't have to sell. all players under decent long term contracts, new TV deal means no PL team is going to be turned by £.

the league is going to get more and more competitive as more teams recruit talent because their wage bills beat most european leagues.

if a player is unhappy, or has his head turned by barcelona /psg etc, different story but the days of the english "top 4" having a monopoly over talent in the PL are long long gone


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 10, 2016, 07:13:21 PM
Kante is a very good player

Second time i have seen a comparison to Roy Keane

steady those horses


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on April 10, 2016, 07:57:53 PM
Pretty sure Vardy puts coke into the teams water bottles at half time. Leicester plays seemed to get fitter as the game went on and we were just sludging round the park.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 10, 2016, 09:09:00 PM
Dear Tighty and other Leicester fans,

I have more than doubled my age since I last saw Spurs beat Man United at the Lane. We don't have the squad we had under Arry. None of our players would be in a World XI conversation. We have a simple system of tactics. No Teddy or Klinsmann to change games on his own, much as I love Kane. We don't have the luxurious flair of Ginola.

And despite all that, I'm watching my team get closer to a league title than I might ever get to see in my lifetime. We have a cohesion I've never seen before and a hungry energy that is a joy to witness. That is before I mention the at-times mesmerising artistry on the pitch.

There's a perfect storm, with United in turmoil, City in handover, Chelsea just back from the picket line and Arsenal waiting for Godot. This may well be the one chance for an outsider to wear the crown, even if it isn't the last chance to compete for honours.

So thank you for ruining it for us.

We are all enjoying the story, but I do so wish it wasn't this season.

Yours wistfully,

Tal


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: muckthenuts on April 10, 2016, 09:16:25 PM
Key point is we don't have to sell. all players under decent long term contracts, new TV deal means no PL team is going to be turned by £.

the league is going to get more and more competitive as more teams recruit talent because their wage bills beat most european leagues.

if a player is unhappy, or has his head turned by barcelona /psg etc, different story but the days of the english "top 4" having a monopoly over talent in the PL are long long gone

You'd be wise to sell, if not this summer definitely next summer. PL will be back to normal next season and no players in this day and age will be happy if they're denied big money moves when the sexier teams come knocking. Cash in on some of the players while their value is at their peak and preserve the long term future of the club in the PL. It would be bad for Leicester to get carried away with themselves now assuming they're going to fight it out with City, Chelsea etc. every season.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on April 10, 2016, 09:24:43 PM
Key point is we don't have to sell. all players under decent long term contracts, new TV deal means no PL team is going to be turned by £.

the league is going to get more and more competitive as more teams recruit talent because their wage bills beat most european leagues.

if a player is unhappy, or has his head turned by barcelona /psg etc, different story but the days of the english "top 4" having a monopoly over talent in the PL are long long gone

You'd be wise to sell, if not this summer definitely next summer. PL will be back to normal next season and no players in this day and age will be happy if they're denied big money moves when the sexier teams come knocking. Cash in on some of the players while their value is at their peak and preserve the long term future of the club in the PL. It would be bad for Leicester to get carried away with themselves now assuming they're going to fight it out with City, Chelsea etc. every season.

Will it be back to normal though?  For that to happen we have to assume Spurs will go back to their 5th/6th berth - I'm not sure that's likely to happen with a champs league spot and new stadium on the way.  West Ham should start punching harder in the next couple of years as well.   Liverpool under Klopp as well.  At the end of the day there are only so many Champ League spots to go round so I don't think it's a given by any means that we revert to type with Chelsea/Man Utd/Arsenal/Utd taking their "rightful" places.  And that's before we even consider whether Leicester are just a flash in the pan.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 11, 2016, 09:38:12 AM

Champions League football confirmed for next season then, Tighty?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 11, 2016, 09:57:19 AM

Champions League football confirmed for next season then, Tighty?

Guaranteed at least 4th, so into the third round of the qualifying, a two leg tie, minimum

4 points required for top 3 and straight into the groups


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 11, 2016, 09:59:19 AM
Key point is we don't have to sell. all players under decent long term contracts, new TV deal means no PL team is going to be turned by £.

the league is going to get more and more competitive as more teams recruit talent because their wage bills beat most european leagues.

if a player is unhappy, or has his head turned by barcelona /psg etc, different story but the days of the english "top 4" having a monopoly over talent in the PL are long long gone

You'd be wise to sell, if not this summer definitely next summer. PL will be back to normal next season and no players in this day and age will be happy if they're denied big money moves when the sexier teams come knocking. Cash in on some of the players while their value is at their peak and preserve the long term future of the club in the PL. It would be bad for Leicester to get carried away with themselves now assuming they're going to fight it out with City, Chelsea etc. every season.

fundamentally disagree with us

if not lcfc, there will be other clubs breaking through

the structure of the new tv deal and the wider dispersion of talent coming into the league will make it much more competitive going forward

completely wrong to say the top 4 will reassert, some might as early as next season but spurs with that team are here to stay, west ham could kick on again with their funding advantage in the olympic stadium and others will break through too


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: RickBFA on April 11, 2016, 10:51:54 AM
Key point is we don't have to sell. all players under decent long term contracts, new TV deal means no PL team is going to be turned by £.

the league is going to get more and more competitive as more teams recruit talent because their wage bills beat most european leagues.

if a player is unhappy, or has his head turned by barcelona /psg etc, different story but the days of the english "top 4" having a monopoly over talent in the PL are long long gone

You'd be wise to sell, if not this summer definitely next summer. PL will be back to normal next season and no players in this day and age will be happy if they're denied big money moves when the sexier teams come knocking. Cash in on some of the players while their value is at their peak and preserve the long term future of the club in the PL. It would be bad for Leicester to get carried away with themselves now assuming they're going to fight it out with City, Chelsea etc. every season.

fundamentally disagree with us

if not lcfc, there will be other clubs breaking through

the structure of the new tv deal and the wider dispersion of talent coming into the league will make it much more competitive going forward

completely wrong to say the top 4 will reassert, some might as early as next season but spurs with that team are here to stay, west ham could kick on again with their funding advantage in the olympic stadium and others will break through too

Whilst Leicester might not have to sell players, if you could sell one player for really stupid money, wouldn't it be a smart move to take it?

This applies to any club, not just Leicester.

Only takes a player to break his leg, form/confidence to go or run his contract down etc to get nothing.

Surely, if the money is spent wisely, it makes sense to sell the odd player whilst keeping the vast majority of the key players in place?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 11, 2016, 11:14:34 AM
https://streamable.com/n21j


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 11, 2016, 11:16:11 AM
Key point is we don't have to sell. all players under decent long term contracts, new TV deal means no PL team is going to be turned by £.

the league is going to get more and more competitive as more teams recruit talent because their wage bills beat most european leagues.

if a player is unhappy, or has his head turned by barcelona /psg etc, different story but the days of the english "top 4" having a monopoly over talent in the PL are long long gone

You'd be wise to sell, if not this summer definitely next summer. PL will be back to normal next season and no players in this day and age will be happy if they're denied big money moves when the sexier teams come knocking. Cash in on some of the players while their value is at their peak and preserve the long term future of the club in the PL. It would be bad for Leicester to get carried away with themselves now assuming they're going to fight it out with City, Chelsea etc. every season.

fundamentally disagree with us

if not lcfc, there will be other clubs breaking through

the structure of the new tv deal and the wider dispersion of talent coming into the league will make it much more competitive going forward

completely wrong to say the top 4 will reassert, some might as early as next season but spurs with that team are here to stay, west ham could kick on again with their funding advantage in the olympic stadium and others will break through too

Whilst Leicester might not have to sell players, if you could sell one player for really stupid money, wouldn't it be a smart move to take it?

This applies to any club, not just Leicester.

Only takes a player to break his leg, form/confidence to go or run his contract down etc to get nothing.

Surely, if the money is spent wisely, it makes sense to sell the odd player whilst keeping the vast majority of the key players in place?

Yes of course. Contract length is the main thing. That apart there is no compulsion to sell at all and that will apply to all PL teams, the new TV deal means all will be exceptionally funded

Barcelona, Real and PSG are going to be big draws for the likes of mahrez and kante. man c, chelsea, united etc much less so.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: muckthenuts on April 11, 2016, 01:44:20 PM
I agree the PL is going to be less top heavy going forward but come on, it's pushing it to say if City came in for £50m for Mahrez this summer you should say no...like they're your direct rivals all of a sudden. The player himself will still want to go of course, Leicester might have the financial ability to sate him but how do you compensate for the whole host of other factors that come with it? The player will become unhappy,  depreciate in value, and you'll end up in mid table anyway like you always would have done except now you have less money.

Make the most of the hype surrounding the freak season, cash in for more than what your players are worth, and stay in the PL for the next 20 years. Going forward the competitiveness of the league could turn out to be a curse rather than a blessing too of course, and there's no reason Leicester are more immune to that than other recently promoted clubs.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on April 11, 2016, 01:53:48 PM
will they want to go though?

leicster doesnt look like a team of want-away super-players who see themselves as The Next Big Thing and being a cut above the players around them.

would warming the bench and getting a few runouts in whatever the spanish / french equivalent of the rumbelows cup really compete with being at the beating heart of the reigning english champions? competing in champions league whilst being the first name on the team sheet? to know that when you come up against a tier 1 side that they will discussing you, watching videos on you  and being seen as the man to watch.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 11, 2016, 02:44:41 PM
well its like asking if WHU will sell Payet, Stoke Shaqiri etc. they might, but they don't need to

there are particular circumstances why both kante and mahrez could go, kante misses france, mahrez is a boyhood barca fan etc. no one is going to begrudge them moves to huge european clubs but i think we would hold out to selling them into the domestic league to teams we think (possibly wrongly) are competition

and if they do go abroad then we know there is a good scouting network to go again. yesterday, because i know one of the team at base crunching the data, i found out that lcfc were scouting in poland, norway, spain and germany yeaterday. have been 9 strong across europe all season compiling lists for the summer to specifications from ranieri and walsh

i don't necessarily accept that this season is a one off with mixing it with the big boys. clearly with extra games to play, reversion to the mean on injuries, teams setting up against us differently the most likely outcome is a slip back to mid-table but there is going to be considerable summer spending on providing a stronger squad for next season. everyone else will be spending too of course

and of course you'd have to assume that conte, guardiola, klopp etc mean their teams are right up there.

but i would have thought mixing it for the top six was feasible next year with or without mahrez and kante



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 11, 2016, 03:40:13 PM
wheres the rumour kante is homesick from


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on April 11, 2016, 03:46:01 PM


Leicester were never going to be any good after they lost Cambiasso


Just saying...


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 11, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
wheres the rumour kante is homesick from

its not a rumour, he struggles with homesickness. shy young single guy in Leicester, go figure.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 11, 2016, 03:54:07 PM
when has he said that tho


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 11, 2016, 03:58:52 PM
when has he said that tho

he hasn't, he isn't interviewed publically.

it is widely known locally that he misses home


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: byronkincaid on April 11, 2016, 06:21:28 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/11/leicester-city-finances-football-league-financial-fair-play-investigation

I thought nobody cared about FFP anymore?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 11, 2016, 06:27:28 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/11/leicester-city-finances-football-league-financial-fair-play-investigation

I thought nobody cared about FFP anymore?

they do but the rules have been loosened

the whole trestellar deal has looked very odd from the start. the suggestion that is was a way to get wages off the book and this change the ratio wages: income is quite powerful

the horse has bolted though, the club is up in the PL and any fine (if due, case unproven) probably seen as a price worth paying for what has happened since

the swissramble analysis of the accoutns i put upa  few weeks ago is very good on it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 13, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
skybet yesterday

one punter bet £20ew at 5000/1 on Leicester to win the Premier League on August 18. He just cashed out for £108,703.41


seeing it through another 5 weeks was £133,000 and change if lcfc held on to win it, with the each way part locked in already


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 13, 2016, 10:56:21 AM
How Leicester have killed crossing

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/13/how-leicester-are-killing-crossing-in-the-premier-league/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

* waits for Andy Carroll to start on Sunday *


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bagel on April 13, 2016, 11:03:24 AM
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Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PathFinder on April 13, 2016, 11:31:52 AM
I read that Ritchie De Laet has played enough games for Leicester and Boro that he would eligible to receive a premier league winners medal and a Championship winners medal if both teams win their respective league. Quite the achievement and would be a good pub quiz question.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 13, 2016, 11:49:13 AM
I read that Ritchie De Laet has played enough games for Leicester and Boro that he would eligible to receive a premier league winners medal and a Championship winners medal if both teams win their respective league. Quite the achievement and would be a good pub quiz question.

yes thats right

he started the season at right back for us, with schlupp left back

we were very open as both like to bomb forward and de laet had mahrez in front of him. Mahrez frequently left him exposed, though his defensive work has become a lot better through the season (ranieri influence)

anyway, after the 5-2 mauling by arsenal ranieri dropped both full backs and replaced them with fuchs and simpson whose first priority is to defend, to play narrow alongside huth and morgan etc etc though Fuchs has a lot more to his game as well, set pieces, crosses etc

and of course the goals stopped leaking

de laet was loaned out in january and he is a very effective championship player because his defensive frailities arent exposed so much and he can still bomb forward effectively 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 14, 2016, 12:19:54 PM
The Leicester effect: a new benchmark for all or just a freak season?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/apr/13/leicester-city-effect-premier-league-claudio-ranieri?CMP=share_btn_tw


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 14, 2016, 12:23:56 PM
PSG, Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea are eyeing up Leicester's N'Golo Kante, and believe the midfielder has a £20m release clause, according to the Daily Mail.

The 25-year-old, who joined Leicester from Caen in the summer for £5.6m, was shortlisted for PFA Player of the Year on Wednesday.

He has three years left on his deal at the King Power Stadium


(PSG please, if its triggered)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on April 14, 2016, 01:06:34 PM
Leicester-supporting Kevin Friend removed as ref from the Spurs game:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36042805


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 14, 2016, 01:09:21 PM
Leicester-supporting Kevin Friend removed as ref from the Spurs game:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36042805

he supports Bristol city, but is from leicester and has attended leicester matches

we once had a conversation at leicester train station about the handball rule. I think he thought i was a nutter. He might be right.

sensible to take him off it, clearly


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 14, 2016, 01:13:31 PM
How was he even given that game in the first place?

Shirely they don't allocate refs to every game from the start of the season.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 17, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Pretty shocking from Huth today, should have been sent off a few times, just bizarre series of charges and cheap shots with the forearm.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 17, 2016, 03:39:29 PM

Really enjoying all things Leicester City this season, and that includes Vardy, but he goes down a notch (in my book) for that dive. He is successful, Leicester are successful, by doing the right things the right way. No need for that sort of stuff.

Hope they are not going to start going down Route Cynical.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: fatcatstu on April 17, 2016, 03:50:17 PM
not overly Leicester related, but Ritchie De Laet LOVES blackjack. Was in the casino on the same table as him yesterday, really nice lad, him and Nugent were there, great banter, and bought the table a few drinks!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on April 17, 2016, 04:08:35 PM
not overly Leicester related, but Ritchie De Laet LOVES blackjack. Was in the casino on the same table as him yesterday, really nice lad, him and Nugent were there, great banter, and bought the table a few drinks!

Leicester player in a casino, what can go wrong.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 17, 2016, 04:14:17 PM
comical ref performance here to keep the league open.  Vardy give the ref three strides of having his bicep held onto and tugged by the paceless defender before he felt he had to go down to get a pen.  If the EPL don't want people to dive then make the ref's give pens when players are fouled so they don't have to go down.  Morgan concedes a pen for much less than happened to vardy when the West ham player didn't even have the ball.  Huth gets strangled at the other end at a corner and doesn't get a pen then the ref gives in and gives a shocker of a pen to Leicester in the worse make up call in history to give them a draw.

Shocking ref performance.
 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 17, 2016, 04:16:20 PM
Huge point that, could be vital

thought vardy dived

didn't think either pen was a pen, but it had been coming such was the argy bargy all game in there

did think huth's elbow in the first half was a pen, from which we broke and got the goal

cracking entertainment, but can't take much more of it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: KarmaDope on April 17, 2016, 04:20:50 PM
Good god Lawrenson is awful on five live. So, so biased.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 17, 2016, 04:21:57 PM

Really enjoying all things Leicester City this season, and that includes Vardy, but he goes down a notch (in my book) for that dive. He is successful, Leicester are successful, by doing the right things the right way. No need for that sort of stuff.

Hope they are not going to start going down Route Cynical.

he tries to get across the last defender and make him make contact, which is then a pen. won several pens that way

all the top strikers do it

this was a bit blatant, as he hardly received any contact and gave it the greg louganis lol


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Post by: arbboy on April 17, 2016, 04:24:49 PM

Really enjoying all things Leicester City this season, and that includes Vardy, but he goes down a notch (in my book) for that dive. He is successful, Leicester are successful, by doing the right things the right way. No need for that sort of stuff.

Hope they are not going to start going down Route Cynical.

he tries to get across the last defender and make him make contact, which is then a pen. won several pens that way

all the top strikers do it

this was a bit blatant, as he hardly received any contact and gave it the greg louganis lol

The defender had hold of his bicep for 3 strides in order to keep up with his pace and slow Vardy down in full flow.  I thought it was a penalty before any diving.  He only dives because he was sick of getting pulled back.  To book him already on a yellow there is a disgrace.


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Post by: tikay on April 17, 2016, 04:27:28 PM

Really enjoying all things Leicester City this season, and that includes Vardy, but he goes down a notch (in my book) for that dive. He is successful, Leicester are successful, by doing the right things the right way. No need for that sort of stuff.

Hope they are not going to start going down Route Cynical.

he tries to get across the last defender and make him make contact, which is then a pen. won several pens that way

all the top strikers do it

this was a bit blatant, as he hardly received any contact and gave it the greg louganis lol


Correct on all points.

However, just because other strikers do it does not mean Vardy should, nor does it justify it in any way.

The enjoyable thing about Leicester is they are breaking the moulds. Be great if that included doing away with the cynical stuff.


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Post by: mondatoo on April 17, 2016, 04:29:21 PM
The inconsistency with what Defenders are allowed to get away with in the box is so tilting, really needs sorted out it's a joke.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 17, 2016, 04:39:55 PM
Vardy has been doing that all season tbf (as have most strikers)

Not a pen or a booking for me sometimes can be neither


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Post by: George2Loose on April 17, 2016, 05:33:02 PM
Deffo a booking. Vardy took a dive. Thought both penalties were a joke. That Ulloa goal is absolutely huge not just cos the point but psychologically


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on April 18, 2016, 06:13:30 PM


I never been a "who's the b*******d in the black" type of supporter but what a terrible shame if Leicester's season is seriously affected by two referees, Atkinson at Arsenal and Moss yesterday, being totally inept and unable to control the game!



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Post by: TightEnd on April 18, 2016, 06:17:20 PM
but you can't argue with the FA Charge

open and shut case of improper conduct, and Vardy only has himself to blame

yes Moss was inept, yes the FA are inconsistent but you can't react as he did

costa got an extra game (everton recently) so would expect vardy to get one game added on

all this crap about conspiracies to stop lcfc etc is pathetic and does daft leicester fans no service





Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on April 18, 2016, 06:22:23 PM
Chat **** get banned

Be interesting if he is banned for the United game. He'd have an absolute field day vs Rojo and Blind


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 18, 2016, 06:24:26 PM
Chat **** get banned

Be interesting if he is banned for the United game. He'd have an absolute field day vs Rojo and Blind

He will be

at least one more game

i have had to close down twitter for the day. football fans are ridiculous in instances like this, in this case leicester fans.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on April 18, 2016, 06:25:29 PM
Client presentation in London today, several have flown over from the States and their VP wants to buy a Leicester shirt for their son. Simple way to demonstrate going the extra mile - will drive over to the KP tonight when I get home.

Best to ring first to check that they have the 3rd strip in stock, that's what he wants.

Nothing. Every shirt, every size, every version - sold out.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bagel on April 18, 2016, 11:30:04 PM
spurs 13/8 after tonight

surely even without vardy, leicester will take 3 points at home to swansea, and go 8 clear with some very tough games coming.

chelsea v spurs is going to be interesting, from fans point of view it is chelseas cup final, their fans would love nothing more than ruining the party .

could well come down to what happens last game of season chelsea v leicester.

come on you foxes.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: muckthenuts on April 19, 2016, 01:34:36 AM
It'd be a real dagger to the heart if the 6 points Arsenal took off Leicester ended up helping Spurs win the title. Please please please don't let that happen.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 19, 2016, 07:35:39 AM
Spurs need to be level or in front for the last game, as there's no way Chelsea would let us win the title.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on April 19, 2016, 08:23:29 AM
You need to be level or ahead as leicster are a much better team than Chelsea.

Leicster have won 94 points in the last 40 odd prem games.

It'll be a massive achievement to still be on their coat-tails. They have been the dominant force in English football, plucky underdogs reliant on Chelsea being generous they ain't.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 19, 2016, 08:46:32 AM
Spurs need to be level or in front for the last game, as there's no way Chelsea would let us win the title.

Don't have to this spurs side won't have issues going to Chelsea and winning


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 19, 2016, 09:07:32 AM
Spurs need to be level or in front for the last game, as there's no way Chelsea would let us win the title.

Don't have to this spurs side won't have issues going to Chelsea and winning

Leicester play them last game of the season. It'll be reminiscent of when spurs played at Old Trafford and United needed to win to ensure they beat Arsenal to the league title. Spurs fans cheered the United goals.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 19, 2016, 03:55:33 PM
Just been on Talk Sport, not sure which Indian restaurant but giving away 1000 meals if they luckbox the Premiership,


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 19, 2016, 04:24:24 PM
Just been on Talk Sport, not sure which Indian restaurant but giving away 1000 meals if they luckbox the Premiership,

talksport, radio for the brain dead

talking of which, a 38 game season wouldn't be a luckbox

nor would finishing 2nd be a failure (prepares the ground for Spurs to win out)

i don't think chelsea would want to beat us last game if it was up for grabs though


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 19, 2016, 04:36:31 PM
Huh? Just reporting what they said, every team needs a little bit of luck to win the title. Most popular Sports radio programme, didn't say it was the nuts.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on April 19, 2016, 05:54:22 PM
Just been on Talk Sport, not sure which Indian restaurant but giving away 1000 meals if they luckbox the Premiership,

talksport, radio for the brain dead

talking of which, a 38 game season wouldn't be a luckbox

nor would finishing 2nd be a failure (prepares the ground for Spurs to win out)

i don't think chelsea would want to beat us last game if it was up for grabs though

I think this might have been true in olden times

I don't think today's foreigner packed teams care much about trad rivalries


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 19, 2016, 07:21:49 PM
Leicester fans twitching? A couple of small bets cashed in, West ham chairman escorted to his veichle after the match. Vardy reacting the way he did? Not bothered who wins tbh but last game nerves would be good for viewing. Doubt we will have an Aguuuuuuuro moment ever again.


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Post by: T8MML on April 19, 2016, 08:24:55 PM


Who would have ever thought that huge games i.e. Leicester chasing the Prem and Norwich v Sunderland fighting against relegation would end up a bit feisty. It Wouldn't happen anywhere else in the world would it?



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bagel on April 19, 2016, 08:36:59 PM
Spurs need to be level or in front for the last game, as there's no way Chelsea would let us win the title.

the chelsea fans definetely would be cheering leicester, but you reckon the players chuck it? not so sure.

remember when blackburn won the league, pipping man utd by a point? their last game of the season was at anfield. 40000 fans, home and away alike, all willing the rovers to win and ruin it all for the mancs. not to mention dalglish being manager of blackburn. everybody said pool would roll over.

liverpool 2 blackburn 1 , pretty sure redknapp scored one, cant remember the rest.

think utd drew at upton park and threw their toys well and truly out of the pram, whining about how west ham played as if there lives depended on it, when they had f*** all to play for . better luck next year.

vardy diving , (or not), happens every week, not nice to see but hey ho. if chelsea were to put the kids out, or just blatantly not turn up, it would be a truly depressing way to end an incredible season.





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Post by: mondatoo on April 20, 2016, 04:27:48 AM
Spurs are winning the title and so they should, clearly the best team in the league, and as Tighty said Leicester fans will be very pleased to have come 2nd so it's win win, nobody would debate Spurs are the best team.



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Post by: tikay on April 20, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
Spurs are winning the title and so they should, clearly the best team in the league, and as Tighty said Leicester fans will be very pleased to have come 2nd so it's win win, nobody would debate Spurs are the best team.



Steady on Ray, I'd certainly debate it.

It's magnificent how Spurs have improved, I'll give you that, but over the course of the season (& the back end of last season) it cannot be argued or debated - Leicester have been the best team.

 


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Post by: George2Loose on April 20, 2016, 08:30:45 AM
The league doesn't lie. Whoever wins it has been the best- we shall find out soon


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: mondatoo on April 20, 2016, 04:39:06 PM
Spurs are winning the title and so they should, clearly the best team in the league, and as Tighty said Leicester fans will be very pleased to have come 2nd so it's win win, nobody would debate Spurs are the best team.



Steady on Ray, I'd certainly debate it.

It's magnificent how Spurs have improved, I'll give you that, but over the course of the season (& the back end of last season) it cannot be argued or debated - Leicester have been the best team.

 

Haha, I had a few too many beers was just being mischievous :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 20, 2016, 04:56:24 PM
The league doesn't lie. Whoever wins it has been the best- we shall find out soon

The old ones are the best.  League table never lies.  Yes it does quite frequently.  Sample sizes of 38 random events are suitably large to determine without doubt who the best team was?  Results orientated ftw!  WSOP main event winner must be the best poker player in the world as well!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: byronkincaid on April 20, 2016, 05:01:41 PM
My Dad got on at 30/1 and has just cashed in :o I've told him that Arbboy would be horrified.

 


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Post by: arbboy on April 20, 2016, 05:03:35 PM
My Dad got on at 30/1 and has just cashed in :o I've told him that Arbboy would be horrified.

 

Tell him to enjoy it.    Wish he had cashed in couple of weeks ago rather than today.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 20, 2016, 10:10:25 PM
The league doesn't lie. Whoever wins it has been the best- we shall find out soon

The old ones are the best.  League table never lies.  Yes it does quite frequently.  Sample sizes of 38 random events are suitably large to determine without doubt who the best team was?  Results orientated ftw!  WSOP main event winner must be the best poker player in the world as well!

Yup- over that short sample of 38 games that team was the best. Not suggesting anything else


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 20, 2016, 10:30:58 PM
The league doesn't lie. Whoever wins it has been the best- we shall find out soon

I disagree with this.

If Leicester win the league do you really think they've been the best team this season?

I'm cheering them to win it as much as the next man, but seriously there is no way way you could rate them in the best 6 teams of the Premier League this season. They were 5/4 to beat Southampton at home, which means they are virtually even on a neutral ground.

That sounds right to me.

They've run ridiculously well this season. It's just variance.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 20, 2016, 10:45:54 PM
Leics 40/1 for league next year.  West Ham 150/1.  Will be looking to back WH large in a match bet based on those respective prices at the start of next season when the match bets are published.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on April 20, 2016, 11:03:15 PM
Leics 40/1 for league next year.  West Ham 150/1.  Will be looking to back WH large in a match bet based on those respective prices at the start of next season when the match bets are published.

Just need the NBA MVP, and you've got another dream double, Mark ;D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 20, 2016, 11:03:40 PM
If Leicester win the league I truly believe they have been the best team this season


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on April 20, 2016, 11:15:41 PM
Statistically Spurs are leading just about every category bar points. It's a funny old game!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 20, 2016, 11:15:46 PM
If Leicester win the league I truly believe they have been the best team this season

And when they get pipped by Spurs in the last game you will truly believe Spurs have been the best team?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on April 20, 2016, 11:29:11 PM
Statistically Spurs are leading just about every category bar points. It's a funny old game!

Really?

Most points from home games

Most points from away games

Least number of defeats

Oh, and top of the league.

Arsenal aside (ironic really) from all the other top half of the league teams Leicester have collected 4 points off Tottenham. Man City, West Ham, Liverpool, Southampton and Stoke and have still to play United and Chelsea again.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 20, 2016, 11:42:58 PM
If Leicester win the league I truly believe they have been the best team this season

And when they get pipped by Spurs in the last game you will truly believe Spurs have been the best team?

lolzzzzz.  Results ftw!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: byronkincaid on April 20, 2016, 11:53:56 PM
Statistically Spurs are leading just about every category bar points. It's a funny old game!

Really?

Most points from home games

Most points from away games

Least number of defeats

Oh, and top of the league.

Arsenal aside (ironic really) from all the other top half of the league teams Leicester have collected 4 points off Tottenham. Man City, West Ham, Liverpool, Southampton and Stoke and have still to play United and Chelsea again.




Liverpool won 1-0 on boxing day


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on April 21, 2016, 12:31:46 AM
Statistically Spurs are leading just about every category bar points. It's a funny old game!

Really?

Most points from home games

Most points from away games

Least number of defeats

Oh, and top of the league.

Arsenal aside (ironic really) from all the other top half of the league teams Leicester have collected 4 points off Tottenham. Man City, West Ham, Liverpool, Southampton and Stoke and have still to play United and Chelsea again.




You appear to have missed the bit where I mentioned 'bar points'. Home and away points are still points.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgcLtmVWIAEFoMz.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on April 21, 2016, 02:09:20 AM
Statistically Spurs are leading just about every category bar points. It's a funny old game!

Really?

Most points from home games

Most points from away games

Least number of defeats

Oh, and top of the league.

Arsenal aside (ironic really) from all the other top half of the league teams Leicester have collected 4 points off Tottenham. Man City, West Ham, Liverpool, Southampton and Stoke and have still to play United and Chelsea again.




Liverpool won 1-0 on boxing day

My bad - apologies.  Forgot Benteke had justified his £38million  ;)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 21, 2016, 08:46:31 AM
If Leicester win the league I truly believe they have been the best team this season

And when they get pipped by Spurs in the last game you will truly believe Spurs have been the best team?

Yes if Spurs pip them I truly believe they have been the best team over the 38 game period


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 21, 2016, 08:47:33 AM
Statistically Spurs are leading just about every category bar points. It's a funny old game!

Really?

Most points from home games

Most points from away games

Least number of defeats

Oh, and top of the league.

Arsenal aside (ironic really) from all the other top half of the league teams Leicester have collected 4 points off Tottenham. Man City, West Ham, Liverpool, Southampton and Stoke and have still to play United and Chelsea again.




You appear to have missed the bit where I mentioned 'bar points'. Home and away points are still points.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgcLtmVWIAEFoMz.jpg)

How is this every statistic?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 21, 2016, 08:52:20 AM
38 games not a big enough sample to determine the "best" team

I have enjoyed spurs the most this season but you have to admire the arts leicester have bought to the table


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 21, 2016, 08:56:35 AM
I don't get how 38 games is not a big enough sample.

The league is 38 games, therefore surely the best team will be the one with the best points total?

The sample can't be any bigger can it?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on April 21, 2016, 09:10:49 AM
Statistically Spurs are leading just about every category bar points. It's a funny old game!

Really?

Most points from home games

Most points from away games

Least number of defeats

Oh, and top of the league.

Arsenal aside (ironic really) from all the other top half of the league teams Leicester have collected 4 points off Tottenham. Man City, West Ham, Liverpool, Southampton and Stoke and have still to play United and Chelsea again.




You appear to have missed the bit where I mentioned 'bar points'. Home and away points are still points.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgcLtmVWIAEFoMz.jpg)

How is this every statistic?

It's not but I'd argue they are the simple pertinent statistics. I'm sure they're probably leading plenty of advanced stats too.

This from the excellent Colin Trainor on statsbomb.com:

Weekly wonderings about Leicester

Leicester have happily thrown the traditional “How to Succeed” playbook out of the window and lead the league despite moderate shot totals (-21 shots, +31 shots on target), a league worst passing percentage (68.4%), bottom three possession numbers (43.1%) and we saw a reconfirmation this week of the fact that their likely 5000/1 league success would be the largest individual odds defied in the history of sport. That’s pretty cool and means the chances of aliens arriving to join in the celebrations now seems a whole lot more likely while Elvis might show up and ask if they named the King Power Stadium after him.

Parts of the wider media are also starting to notice the statistical oddities that encompass Leicester too, from bookmakers to newspapers, we’ve seen a good deal of comment on these issues. Indeed it’s pleasing that there are larger organisations reaching out and looking for these stories, they’re valuable and informative. Back out here where the most of the good content lives, in a wide ranging analysis, Constantin Eckner pulled it all together with a pretty definitive tactical shift over at Spielverlagerung and Michael Bertin investigated their insanely low opposition conversion rates. He calculated a value for the chance that Leicester would concede so few goals since the halfway point; it’s around a 1 in 300 chance. This reflects some wider truth, for when we find unlikely success, it’s not entirely surprising that we also find other large odds occurrences taking place.  What odds the season long total lack of injuries? What odds finding Vardy and Mahrez and them elevating to this level peaking alongside each other? What odds the huge plus column full of penalties? What odds it all comes together at once? We know that: it’s 5000/1.

So next season if your club decides to give up the ball and play directly, on balance, it’s more likely that they will end up like the many clubs that have tried and failed with the style before, scrapping for their Premier League lives.

Some have made a comparison with Atletico Madrid and the formulation and execution of different to usual systems. We have far more evidence that Diego Simeone has built something sustainable, his teams have put up solid shooting numbers during the nearly four full seasons he has been in charge of after taking control midway through the 2011-12 campaign. Their defensive solidity is borne of shot suppression and has shown to continue despite personnel changes and is altogether different from the good but not great Leicester numbers. Indeed while reliant on the attacking talents and goals of Antoine Griezmann or Diego Costa and Radamel Falcao before him, that Atletico have been able to compete over multiple seasons in multiple competitions reflects that they are not purely reliant on talent alone; the system is strong, as their heroic resistance of Barcelona testified. One suspects that the removal of any of Leicester’s talismanic trio of Jamie Vardy, Riyad Mahrez or N’Golo Kante would hugely impact the effectiveness of their attack; something that has already faded to a degree.

Of course, the West Ham game finally found a heady mix of misfortune for Leicester. Vardy deserved his second booking, but would most referees call that? Maybe not. Most referees probably wouldn’t give a penalty for pushing in the box, but they possibly would if they’d just doled out a warning. These things can go both ways, as the last ditch penalty showed, and finally a few went against Leicester but they finally conceded the goals to go alongside the volume of opposition’s shots and Tottenham, for a day at least, spy a gap in Leicester’s armour.  This result and even the format of its arrival were overdue but the warning remains, celebrate Leicester,  but unless they blow their summer budget on Cristiano Ronaldo or Zlatan Ibrahimovic, somewhere along the line, the talent gap will be exposed and they will refind their level.

This isn’t a football revolution.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Skippy on April 21, 2016, 09:39:05 AM
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/087/536/1292102239519.gif)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 21, 2016, 10:20:44 AM
It's a good spot for Taleb's 'Fooled by Randomness'. Which I think everybody should read. That Leicester suddenly became the best team really isn't likely. Just plain old variance.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 21, 2016, 10:21:36 AM
It's a good spot for Taleb's 'Fooled by Randomness'. Which I think everybody should read. That Leicester suddenly became the best team really isn't likely. Just plain old variance.


Agreed



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on April 21, 2016, 10:29:57 AM
I have no doubt Leicester will likely finish below top 4 next season but that article just comes over to me as sour grapes from someone who is offended by their style.  Who's to say Spurs won't revert to their level next season and start finishing 5th/6th again every year?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 21, 2016, 10:36:21 AM
Just stating the facts isn't it?

All of the above combining together like that is very unlikely Leicester have taken advantage of it well but it won't happen again


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on April 21, 2016, 10:39:13 AM
Just stating the facts isn't it?

All of the above combining together like that is very unlikely Leicester have taken advantage of it well but it won't happen again

Yeah.  But it's the sneering way it is done "before your teams go direct next season" blah, blah, blah.  It's like the media when Watford came 2nd in 1982.   Why does he think Spurs won't revert to their normal standard next season?  Think it's because he finds the spurs style "acceptable".


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 21, 2016, 10:41:26 AM
Just stating the facts isn't it?

All of the above combining together like that is very unlikely Leicester have taken advantage of it well but it won't happen again

Yeah.  But it's the sneering way it is done "before your teams go direct next season" blah, blah, blah.  It's like the media when Watford came 2nd in 1982.   Why does he think Spurs won't revert to their normal standard next season?  Think it's because he finds the spurs style "acceptable".

Maybe he does I don't know. The spurs style is more sustainable than Leicesters would be my guess


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2016, 10:48:52 AM
Hodgson defends Vardy and says red card was ‘unlucky’. http://gu.com/p/4tg66/stw 


I must say some of the comments come across as pretty begrudging. whatever happens to reach the champions league group stages, however embarrassing the results may be, is something that will be cherished. lets hope we don't get romania, kazakhstan and bulgarian teams!

as to the rest of it, of course there has been insane positive variance (and underperformance elsewhere)  but we ignore two things

A) until march or so almost every team defended terribly against us. Only Liverpool at Anfield on boxing day did what appeared obvious, defend the 18 yard line, don't let Vardy in behind and double up on Mahrez.

I just couldn't understand why teams would set up their back four 35 yards up the pitch game after game. You can offer us all the space in the world in the middle of the park, we aren't going to hurt you, but offer us space in behind and kante is going to win the ball (over 100 interceptions this season) and drinkwater/mahrez are going to ping it through.

not rocket science.

by the time teams began to adapt and asked us to play through them we were top. At that point Mahrez won games with a single piece of skill and invariably we took the lead first, so teams then had to come on and we could play that quick transitional style with the out ball to Vardy a constant threat

B) "In-game" with tactics and substitutions Ranieri has been sensational. "Out of game" the organisation and teamwork of the back five has taken a lot of work. Yes shot conversion against has been low 

Of course now vardy is out for 1-2-3 games the impact of not being a possession side without that pace on the last defender is going to be felt. So much of the style of play depends on that threat.

this is probably the first bit of adverse variance lcfc have seen all season.

I'm hoping we can grind out a couple of results and still be ahead for when he is back


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: superwomble on April 21, 2016, 10:51:09 AM
Statistically Spurs are leading just about every category bar points. It's a funny old game!

Really?

Most points from home games

Most points from away games

Least number of defeats

Oh, and top of the league.

Arsenal aside (ironic really) from all the other top half of the league teams Leicester have collected 4 points off Tottenham. Man City, West Ham, Liverpool, Southampton and Stoke and have still to play United and Chelsea again.




You appear to have missed the bit where I mentioned 'bar points'. Home and away points are still points.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgcLtmVWIAEFoMz.jpg)

I saw this the other day and immediately wondered how facing the most shots on target is a good thing? Surely you are more likely to beat teams by allowing them as few shots on target as possible?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on April 21, 2016, 11:13:09 AM
Maybe 102 is the least, just like the stat above it? 3 shots a game sounds pretty low.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: superwomble on April 21, 2016, 11:32:17 AM
Maybe 102 is the least, just like the stat above it? 3 shots a game sounds pretty low.

Haha what a div!  ;ashamed;


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 21, 2016, 11:53:02 AM
It's a good spot for Taleb's 'Fooled by Randomness'. Which I think everybody should read. That Leicester suddenly became the best team really isn't likely. Just plain old variance.

I do think the other clubs were incredibly slow to recognise what Leicester were doing and make a game plan to counter Vardy and Mahrez.

The last eight games (since their brilliant performances v City and Arsenal), where the twin threat has been diluted massively by teams defending deeper and not letting Vardy get behind them, Leicester have run like God to remain unbeaten.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2016, 12:02:05 PM
It's a good spot for Taleb's 'Fooled by Randomness'. Which I think everybody should read. That Leicester suddenly became the best team really isn't likely. Just plain old variance.

I do think the other clubs were incredibly slow to recognise what Leicester were doing and make a game plan to counter Vardy and Mahrez.

The last eight games (since their brilliant performances v City and Arsenal), where the twin threat has been diluted massively by teams defending deeper and not letting Vardy get behind them, Leicester have run like God to remain unbeaten.

This says what i said only far more succinctly!

Much of the league was tactically naive against us for far too long. whether we weren't taken seriously or not, dunno

after all, we don't have a lot of clubs in the bag.

in the last ten games Mahrez has won 3 games with a single piece of skill and at the same time as the attacking threat has been neutralised the defensive organisation has been stunning

Ranieri tactically pushed the far full back in to act as a third centre back when the play was out wide, and morgan and huth were unchallenged until the west ham game with virtually no successful crosses against us.

it was difficult to play through the middle of us, and still is, as kante is magnificent, tackles and intercepts everything.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 21, 2016, 12:04:33 PM
It's been a freak season in many respects. I look forward to some kind of normality resuming next year ;)

I think this Spurs team are here to stay if they can keep hold of Poch and the core players. I know they've had many false dawns recently but some of the best talent in the league reside at WHL at the moment.

I just don't see Leicester coming anywhere close to the top 4 next season. Throw in European football, potential to lose a couple of stars in the summer, inevitably more injuries next season with a bigger schedule of games, and some of the teams who have disappointed this year (Chelsea, City, and to a lesser degree Liverpool and united) can't be as bad next season.

It's been a perfect storm, and if Leicester win it they deserve it.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
It's been a freak season in many respects. I look forward to some kind of normality resuming next year ;)

I think this Spurs team are here to stay if they can keep hold of Poch and the core players. I know they've had many false dawns recently but some of the best talent in the league reside at WHL at the moment.

I just don't see Leicester coming anywhere close to the top 4 next season. Throw in European football, potential to lose a couple of stars in the summer, inevitably more injuries next season with a bigger schedule of games, and some of the teams who have disappointed this year (Chelsea, City, and to a lesser degree Liverpool and united) can't be as bad next season.

It's been a perfect storm, and if Leicester win it they deserve it.



I would take anywhere in the top 12 next season now, for all the reasons you mention. We are going to recruit substantially, but even so its not repeatable

of course this is our one chance and we (lcfc fans) are horribly conflicted. not to win it from here would be horrible. to finish top 2 would be magnificent. all about perspective!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on April 21, 2016, 12:13:02 PM


Deeply offended that the guy should mention Leicester in the same breath as Athletico Madrid - savages!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: byronkincaid on April 21, 2016, 12:22:51 PM
I've got two Spurs supporting brothers so I really hope Leicester can hold on.

Should Ranieri get this long contract he is asking for? I guess the owners are rich enough to be able to pay him off if they need to in 2 or 3 years time.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2016, 12:43:13 PM
I've got two Spurs supporting brothers so I really hope Leicester can hold on.

Should Ranieri get this long contract he is asking for? I guess the owners are rich enough to be able to pay him off if they need to in 2 or 3 years time.



don't see why not.

got to keep him away from the Italian national team, so the whispers go.

sorting the new contracts for shakespeare and walsh before Pearson's feet are under the desk elsewhere just as important.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 21, 2016, 12:46:14 PM
Are the club on the hook for any performance related bonuses other than keeping the team up contract wise?   I assume even the most savvy agent wouldn't have put a clause for Champs league qualification/winning the league into a clause for any Leicester player right?

This from two stand points.  Firstly, player bonuses wages wise and secondly, add on fees for initial transfer consideration from the clubs you purchased your squad from.  Camel has just PM'd me about this and originally i only meant it from a player's wages angle not the other angle he alluded to.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 21, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
38 games not a big enough sample size.
76 games won't be either.
Leicester to repeat!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
none at all

the club bonus scheme maxxed out at a top ten finish this season. i dare day the owners might sweeten it after the event

last year the squad received £250,000 a man for staying up

some of the clauses i am aware of, secondhand, are

- Kante £20m release clause

- Vardy was £500,000 one off bonus to be capped by England.

- Demarai Gray has a smaller contractual bonus if he is capped while at the club

- Ulloa has a bonus for double digit PL goals

- Huth has a clean sheets bonus!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: superwomble on April 21, 2016, 01:13:18 PM
I remember reading an interview with Dave Beasant who said at the start of the 1987/88 season he, as captain, and Sam Hammam sat down to talk about the bonuses the squad would get for that season. They got to the FA Cup and Beasant said, jokingly, put us down for a million quid each if we win it. Hammam laughed and did so. Unfortunately for the Wimbledon players he changed his mind the day after and changed it to no bonus for winning it!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on April 21, 2016, 02:30:47 PM
none at all

the club bonus scheme maxxed out at a top ten finish this season. i dare day the owners might sweeten it after the event

last year the squad received £250,000 a man for staying up

some of the clauses i am aware of, secondhand, are

- Kante £20m release clause

- Vardy was £500,000 one off bonus to be capped by England.

- Demarai Gray has a smaller contractual bonus if he is capped while at the club

- Ulloa has a bonus for double digit PL goals

- Huth has a clean sheets bonus!

Ouch


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 21, 2016, 03:02:46 PM
none at all

the club bonus scheme maxxed out at a top ten finish this season. i dare day the owners might sweeten it after the event

last year the squad received £250,000 a man for staying up

some of the clauses i am aware of, secondhand, are

- Kante £20m release clause

- Vardy was £500,000 one off bonus to be capped by England.

- Demarai Gray has a smaller contractual bonus if he is capped while at the club

- Ulloa has a bonus for double digit PL goals

- Huth has a clean sheets bonus!

Ouch

Interesting sub-fact

Walsh wanted us to sign Jordan Veretout. Veretout chose Villa over us (sometimes you need a bit of luck as a player, or not), so we turned our attentions to Kante. Ranieri needed convincing too, wasn't sure about him.

Took weeks to persuade him to come after that.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on April 21, 2016, 03:12:22 PM
To follow up on rinswun's post a couple of pages back the graph below is reason most analytics experts expect Leicester to regress next season. I hope Leicester win the league but that graph reminds me a bit of the ones that popped up on 2+2 when the Absolute Superusers got rumbled.

Cliffs: Since the turn of the year Leicester's opponent's have scored just 3.19% of their shots (league average is 9.5%, anything below 7% or above 12.5% has been proven to be unsustainable over a large sample size)
The odds or that occurring is roughly 300/1
Link to full article: http://www.michaelbertin.com/its-better-to-be-lucky-than-good-but-its-even-better-to-be-lucky-and-good/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on April 21, 2016, 03:21:58 PM
Just stating the facts isn't it?

All of the above combining together like that is very unlikely Leicester have taken advantage of it well but it won't happen again

Yeah.  But it's the sneering way it is done "before your teams go direct next season" blah, blah, blah.  It's like the media when Watford came 2nd in 1982.   Why does he think Spurs won't revert to their normal standard next season?  Think it's because he finds the spurs style "acceptable".

Maybe he does I don't know. The spurs style is more sustainable than Leicesters would be my guess

There are a few reasons that those in the analytics community expect the performance of Spurs to me more sustainable but this paragraph sums it up:

The increase in Tottenham’s performance levels from last season to this are so extreme that there is a solid argument that Pochettino has improved Tottenham to a greater degree than Claudio Ranieri has improved Leicester. Aspects of Leicester’s success have been built from a remarkable sequence of beneficial skews: first scoring at an extremely high and unsustainable rate then following it up with a rate of goal prevention at a similarly high and unsustainable rate. Their underlying performance metrics peg them as a Europa League challenger and reversion to that level, if not lower, seems almost certain for next season. That is not a slight on their achievements but the context is there.  In contrast, Tottenham have built their challenge differently; by enhancing both their attack and defence and moving both their outputs and methods from the lowly levels of 2014-15 to genuine league challenging levels.  In any season this Tottenham side would likely be residing in the top four, whereas it seems that Leicester have found a perfect storm only in this season, their chance to repeat is slim.

Full article: http://statsbomb.com/2016/03/have-pochettino-and-tottenham-made-the-leap/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on April 21, 2016, 03:59:36 PM
For a bit of balance, here is Colin Trainor again.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/apr/010416-colin-trainor-on-arsenal-expected-goals.html (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/apr/010416-colin-trainor-on-arsenal-expected-goals.html)

3 weeks ago, Arsenal were running bad and were the best team. Now it is Spurs.  But note in the old (3 weeks is a long time in football?) article, Leicester "should" be just 1 point behind Spurs and were only 4 expected points behnd Arsenal. 

I'd also point out that Leicester are top of the current form table I just saw (last 8 matches).

I just think a bit of this is people forgetting Spurs started fairly poorly this season, and are judging Spurs on how they are now.  Right now, Spurs are likely the best team in the premier league and maybe it was Arsenal 3 weeks ago too.  Over the season, Leicester have been very close to the best team and the points totals they have over the last 12 months suggest strongly that they really have been the best team over that period.  Even right now, you'd be pushed to claim they weren't playing top 4 football.  Spurs are probably best rigght now, but are Arsenal and Man City really any better?  And who else is playing as well as Leicester.

I would also suggest that Spurs have only just overtaken Leicester in goals scored in the last month or so.  Previously Leicester were ahead.

If people have looked at all this and concluded Leicester were rightfully 5000/1 shots this year then they want to look at their model, because it really isn't working very well.  I loved the better to be lucky than good article too.  So your outliers consist of Leicester this year and Mourinho's Chelsea, and you don't worry about a problem with your model?  Presumably Mourinho has just fluked his success too, and there wasn't any solid defence or a decent keeper behind that poor shots to conversion ratio.  Mourinho didn't so much park the bus as just left it there by chance each time.

Finally, advanced statistics my arse.   

Maybe Leicester have had the rub of the green at times, but that is going to be the case with any premier league winners, but they absolutely deserve to be chalenging. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 21, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgkkoHNWwAA6lKL.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 21, 2016, 06:15:51 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgkkoHNWwAA6lKL.jpg)

Wenger out.  Pulis as ever massively over achieving year in year out. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 22, 2016, 12:44:47 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36106596

I would have happily bet Huth at 1/10 to make this team ahead of Morgan.  I am gob smacked Huth wasn't in the player of the year debate.  For him to miss this team is a joke.  Morgan has lived off Huth all year long surely?  Overweight/over achieving championship centre half who just landed in the right place at the right time surely?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 22, 2016, 01:14:41 AM
For a bit of balance, here is Colin Trainor again.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/apr/010416-colin-trainor-on-arsenal-expected-goals.html (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/apr/010416-colin-trainor-on-arsenal-expected-goals.html)

3 weeks ago, Arsenal were running bad and were the best team. Now it is Spurs.  But note in the old (3 weeks is a long time in football?) article, Leicester "should" be just 1 point behind Spurs and were only 4 expected points behnd Arsenal.  

I'd also point out that Leicester are top of the current form table I just saw (last 8 matches).

I just think a bit of this is people forgetting Spurs started fairly poorly this season, and are judging Spurs on how they are now.  Right now, Spurs are likely the best team in the premier league and maybe it was Arsenal 3 weeks ago too.  Over the season, Leicester have been very close to the best team and the points totals they have over the last 12 months suggest strongly that they really have been the best team over that period.  Even right now, you'd be pushed to claim they weren't playing top 4 football.  Spurs are probably best rigght now, but are Arsenal and Man City really any better?  And who else is playing as well as Leicester.

I would also suggest that Spurs have only just overtaken Leicester in goals scored in the last month or so.  Previously Leicester were ahead.

If people have looked at all this and concluded Leicester were rightfully 5000/1 shots this year then they want to look at their model, because it really isn't working very well.  I loved the better to be lucky than good article too.  So your outliers consist of Leicester this year and Mourinho's Chelsea, and you don't worry about a problem with your model?  Presumably Mourinho has just fluked his success too, and there wasn't any solid defence or a decent keeper behind that poor shots to conversion ratio.  Mourinho didn't so much park the bus as just left it there by chance each time.

Finally, advanced statistics my arse.  

Maybe Leicester have had the rub of the green at times, but that is going to be the case with any premier league winners, but they absolutely deserve to be chalenging.  


The "model" is why Bloom owns a football club, a yacht and a private jet.

Trying to outguess the model is why us punters are driving around in Y reg Nissan Cherries.

The "model" is right so many more times than its wrong that I would suggest when its wrong on the scale it has been in letting the winners of the Premier League go off at 5000/1, it's because Leicester have been monumentally and undeniably lucky.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 22, 2016, 01:27:02 AM
If Bloom thought Leicester had as much as a 0.05% chance of winning the Premier League this season, he would have blasted the bookmakers so hard, they wouldn't just be making gloomy profits warnings, they would be putting up the shutters.

He didn't because 5000/1 was a bad price.

And the fact they are now 66% to win it, doesn't mean it was a good value, it means they have been lucky.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 22, 2016, 01:30:23 AM
looking forward to tal posting a picture of a Y reg nissan cherry on his way to work tomorrow morning!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on April 22, 2016, 01:33:36 AM
looking forward to tal posting a picture of a Y reg nissan cherry on his way to work tomorrow morning!

The last motor I owned was a Y :D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 22, 2016, 01:44:03 AM
looking forward to tal posting a picture of a Y reg nissan cherry on his way to work tomorrow morning!

The last motor I owned was a Y :D

My current motor ain't much newer!  haha!  Probably worth about as much as a Y reg Cherry as well the state it is in.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on April 22, 2016, 01:52:09 AM
looking forward to tal posting a picture of a Y reg nissan cherry on his way to work tomorrow morning!

The last motor I owned was a Y :D

My current motor ain't much newer!  haha!  Probably worth about as much as a Y reg Cherry as well the state it is in.

I'd have probably gotten more for a punnet of cherries, when I chopped it in for a lease, lol.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 22, 2016, 07:23:31 AM
looking forward to tal posting a picture of a Y reg nissan cherry on his way to work tomorrow morning!

Some of us dream of Y Reg Nissan Cherries.


Edit: oh go on then...

(http://allfotocars.com/data_images/gallery/01/nissan-cherry/nissan-cherry-08.jp)g



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 22, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
looking forward to tal posting a picture of a Y reg nissan cherry on his way to work tomorrow morning!

Some of us dream of Y Reg Nissan Cherries.



Oh go on then...

(http://allfotocars.com/data_images/gallery/01/nissan-cherry/nissan-cherry-08.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on April 22, 2016, 08:54:34 AM
If Bloom thought Leicester had as much as a 0.05% chance of winning the Premier League this season, he would have blasted the bookmakers so hard, they wouldn't just be making gloomy profits warnings, they would be putting up the shutters.

He didn't because 5000/1 was a bad price.

And the fact they are now 66% to win it, doesn't mean it was a good value, it means they have been lucky.

Can that be true Camel?  Results orientated but if we had a 20 field horse race and a 5000-1 shot was still cruising with one fence to jump and was odds on in running can it possibly not have been value at the outset?  Surely the actual performance shows that it was vastly under rated at the outset compared to the shorter horses in the field?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 22, 2016, 09:39:03 AM
We can't abandon the rules about being results oriented just because this example is an extreme one. They were never a good bet at 5000-1, it's just a number that was assigned to to event that basically couldn't happen. The fact that it might now happen is much less relevant than you'd think. Again I'd recommend reading Taleb's Fooled by Randomness.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 22, 2016, 09:40:40 AM
I am getting a bit fed up of this to be honest

In the last few pages we are told

- its randomness
- have been very lucky
- abnormally low shots converted ratio by all opponents
- perfect storm with the top 4 all underperforming

while i am sure all these are factors lets face facts

over the last 38 games, last season and this we have 85 points

We've lost three times. If this were Arsenal's side of 15 years ago or Ferguson's United they'd be lauded for it, not called lucky

We are 12 points clear of any other side over 38 games

With a squad assembled at a tenth of the cost of any top other four side 2013 to date


It can be as random, lucky as you like, its a magnificent managerial, coaching and scouting achievement off the pitch and superbly executed on it

and this will be the case if we finish 1st or 2nd.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 22, 2016, 09:42:30 AM
I read all this this morning and all I could think was "thank goodness this isn't the Liverpool thread".


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on April 22, 2016, 09:44:16 AM
We can't abandon the rules about being results oriented just because this example is an extreme one. They were never a good bet at 5000-1, it's just a number that was assigned to to event that basically couldn't happen. The fact that it might now happen is much less relevant than you'd think. Again I'd recommend reading Taleb's Fooled by Randomness.

I may be missing the point, but let's say you strip out all the luck factors like lack of injuries, other teams underperforming and ref decisions.  I don't actually think they've had excessive luck by the way but just to make a point if we stripped those out they still come, what 3rd/4th?  Surely that means at the start they were mispriced at 5000-1 compared to say, Liverpool?  Even if the luck is removed they are still in the mix and never a 5000-1 shot?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on April 22, 2016, 09:46:40 AM
And if we are saying "5000-1 is just a number assigned to something that basically can't happen", surely if it DOES happen then by definition the price is wrong if they are pricing it on the basis of an impossibility?  They were wrong.  It was possible.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 22, 2016, 09:50:18 AM
And if we are saying "5000-1 is just a number assigned to something that basically can't happen", surely if it DOES happen then by definition the price is wrong if they are pricing it on the basis of an impossibility?  They were wrong.  It was possible.

I should have said can't reasonably be foreseen. Which is of course quite different, my mistake. I'm happy to say no more and enjoy what is clearly an incredible achievement.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on April 22, 2016, 09:57:07 AM
I don't know what's difficult to understand. Leicester achievement laudable but irrespective of TV money and leveller playing fields. Irrespective of great scouting, great management etc it was an abso pipe dream at the start of the season and will be at the start of next. If they are measured over 3 seasons they won't look so amazo

. All kinda irrelevant because they are gonna win it and that's all that really matters

Sensitive Leicester fans will have to wait for people to marvel at what a fine footballing side they are


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on April 22, 2016, 10:31:44 AM
I don't know what's difficult to understand. Leicester achievement laudable but irrespective of TV money and leveller playing fields. Irrespective of great scouting, great management etc it was an abso pipe dream at the start of the season and will be at the start of next. If they are measured over 3 seasons they won't look so amazo

. All kinda irrelevant because they are gonna win it and that's all that really matters

Sensitive Leicester fans will have to wait for people to marvel at what a fine footballing side they are

Of course it was unlikely -  do you think anyone is actually saying otherwise?  As for Leicester wanting people to marvel at their fine football I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone say that so no idea where you get that from.

Leicester are just getting the same treatment that any unfashionable team does when it gets some success.  You might look down your nose at them and give them a pat on the head, but at the end of the day Leicester get the job done, whereas Arsenal crumble every time they face an obstacle.

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on April 22, 2016, 10:39:07 AM
I don't know what's difficult to understand. Leicester achievement laudable but irrespective of TV money and leveller playing fields. Irrespective of great scouting, great management etc it was an abso pipe dream at the start of the season and will be at the start of next. If they are measured over 3 seasons they won't look so amazo

. All kinda irrelevant because they are gonna win it and that's all that really matters

Sensitive Leicester fans will have to wait for people to marvel at what a fine footballing side they are

Of course it was unlikely -  do you think anyone is actually saying otherwise?  As for Leicester wanting people to marvel at their fine football I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone say that so no idea where you get that from.

Leicester are just getting the same treatment that any unfashionable team does when it gets some success.  You might look down your nose at them and give them a pat on the head, but at the end of the day Leicester get the job done, whereas Arsenal crumble every time they face an obstacle.

  

You speak the truth in terms of the recent past, but on account of the longer past - ima ruffle their hair, patronise them and say well done plucky Leicester a lot


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on April 22, 2016, 10:50:43 AM
For a bit of balance, here is Colin Trainor again.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/apr/010416-colin-trainor-on-arsenal-expected-goals.html (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/apr/010416-colin-trainor-on-arsenal-expected-goals.html)

3 weeks ago, Arsenal were running bad and were the best team. Now it is Spurs.  But note in the old (3 weeks is a long time in football?) article, Leicester "should" be just 1 point behind Spurs and were only 4 expected points behnd Arsenal.  

I'd also point out that Leicester are top of the current form table I just saw (last 8 matches).

I just think a bit of this is people forgetting Spurs started fairly poorly this season, and are judging Spurs on how they are now.  Right now, Spurs are likely the best team in the premier league and maybe it was Arsenal 3 weeks ago too.  Over the season, Leicester have been very close to the best team and the points totals they have over the last 12 months suggest strongly that they really have been the best team over that period.  Even right now, you'd be pushed to claim they weren't playing top 4 football.  Spurs are probably best rigght now, but are Arsenal and Man City really any better?  And who else is playing as well as Leicester.

I would also suggest that Spurs have only just overtaken Leicester in goals scored in the last month or so.  Previously Leicester were ahead.

If people have looked at all this and concluded Leicester were rightfully 5000/1 shots this year then they want to look at their model, because it really isn't working very well.  I loved the better to be lucky than good article too.  So your outliers consist of Leicester this year and Mourinho's Chelsea, and you don't worry about a problem with your model?  Presumably Mourinho has just fluked his success too, and there wasn't any solid defence or a decent keeper behind that poor shots to conversion ratio.  Mourinho didn't so much park the bus as just left it there by chance each time.

Finally, advanced statistics my arse.  

Maybe Leicester have had the rub of the green at times, but that is going to be the case with any premier league winners, but they absolutely deserve to be chalenging.  


The "model" is why Bloom owns a football club, a yacht and a private jet.

Trying to outguess the model is why us punters are driving around in Y reg Nissan Cherries.

The "model" is right so many more times than its wrong that I would suggest when its wrong on the scale it has been in letting the winners of the Premier League go off at 5000/1, it's because Leicester have been monumentally and undeniably lucky.

Stats bomb are not Tony Bloom.  There is not one "model".  Just because Tony Bloom's model produces lots of good bets, doesn't make it always right.  I am not sure if stats bomb have a model or if it is a profitable one.  They seem to be big on theories.

FWIW on the extremes is where stats models tend to break.  Modelling these extremes is something we do outside the standard mathematical models.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on April 22, 2016, 10:57:24 AM
I don't know what's difficult to understand. Leicester achievement laudable but irrespective of TV money and leveller playing fields. Irrespective of great scouting, great management etc it was an abso pipe dream at the start of the season and will be at the start of next. If they are measured over 3 seasons they won't look so amazo

. All kinda irrelevant because they are gonna win it and that's all that really matters

Sensitive Leicester fans will have to wait for people to marvel at what a fine footballing side they are

Of course it was unlikely -  do you think anyone is actually saying otherwise?  As for Leicester wanting people to marvel at their fine football I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone say that so no idea where you get that from.

Leicester are just getting the same treatment that any unfashionable team does when it gets some success.  You might look down your nose at them and give them a pat on the head, but at the end of the day Leicester get the job done, whereas Arsenal crumble every time they face an obstacle.

 

Touch premature?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 22, 2016, 11:09:56 AM
I don't know what's difficult to understand. Leicester achievement laudable but irrespective of TV money and leveller playing fields. Irrespective of great scouting, great management etc it was an abso pipe dream at the start of the season and will be at the start of next. If they are measured over 3 seasons they won't look so amazo

. All kinda irrelevant because they are gonna win it and that's all that really matters

Sensitive Leicester fans will have to wait for people to marvel at what a fine footballing side they are

Of course it was unlikely -  do you think anyone is actually saying otherwise?  As for Leicester wanting people to marvel at their fine football I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone say that so no idea where you get that from.

Leicester are just getting the same treatment that any unfashionable team does when it gets some success.  You might look down your nose at them and give them a pat on the head, but at the end of the day Leicester get the job done, whereas Arsenal crumble every time they face an obstacle.

 

Touch premature?

get the job done so far.

4 games to go.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 22, 2016, 11:29:54 AM
Ignore the haters Tighty. This is British culture. Build our heroes up- knock them straight back down


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 22, 2016, 11:43:02 AM
Ignore the haters Tighty. This is British culture. Build our heroes up- knock them straight back down

I'm absolutely not a hater.

I'm funking for Leicester to win it all as much as the next man. Love Ranieri, Okazaki and Ulloa. Chuffed for journeyman pros like Albrighton, Drinkwater and Morgan for whom this whole season must like a dream. Kante and Mahrez are breathtakingly good at what they do and I admire them greatly.

And if Vardy is an obnoxious, odious, racist thug, sobeit.

No team is perfect.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on April 22, 2016, 11:49:21 AM
I'm on Spurs at 22s so I'm obv funking for a Leicester fade haha. Regardless of the stats, incredible story, incred season.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on April 22, 2016, 11:52:54 AM
Ignore the haters Tighty. This is British culture. Build our heroes up- knock them straight back down

So lame - this is one of those ridiculously easy things to say- straight out of a tabloid, not true and meaningless. Pretty sure Tighty (aw, poor tighty) doesn't need anyone to tell him to ignore most of us

Good Sherriff effort tho


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 22, 2016, 12:12:42 PM
Not trying to sherif anything. Happens time and time again. Routing for the underdog turns into some sort of witch hunt


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 22, 2016, 12:19:30 PM
Not trying to sherif anything. Happens time and time again. Routing for the underdog turns into some sort of witch hunt

Understanding of maths has nothing to do with hating anything or witch hunt's.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 22, 2016, 01:14:42 PM
this is interesting.

Caley

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2016/04/21/leicester-citys-run-in-premier-league-is-crazier-than-youd-think/

"The lesson of this incredible season is not peculiar to Leicester. Good resource management, smart acquisitions and quality tactics can elevate a smaller club to competitiveness. The examples of Everton and Southampton show this, as well. Once you are competitive, you are in position to take advantage of a run of good fortune should it hit. And Leicester City has taken that advantage nearly all the way to a league title."

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgpJUVoWYAAhhqj.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 22, 2016, 02:40:50 PM
Don't people remember when Newcastle's scouting policy was being lauded a few years ago as genius?   The chief shout Carr got a 25 year contract from Ashley off short term results which were nothing more than variance as has been proved a couple of years later.  Leicester's scouting is no better or worse than most team's in the EPL significantly anyway.  They just got lucky this year striking gold and how they all gelled together.  They have a team spirit similar to the Crazy gang off the field from all accounts.  You can't scout for this unique situation.  It rarely happens in modern day sport because of the money involved and the egos.

You seriously telling me Leicester has signficantly better resource management than Stoke and West Ham for example long term?  Stoke and WHam's owners are two of the shrewder operators financially both in football (far more relative experience as owners in modern day football than Leicesters) and business and i would assume are doing everything Leicester are doing and more maybe (with bigger budgets) to maximize the off field edges they can squeeze.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on April 22, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
Don't people remember when Newcastle's scouting policy was being lauded a few years ago as genius.   The chief shout Carr got a 25 year contract from Ashley off short term results which were nothing more than variance as has been proved a couple of years later.  Leicester's scouting is no better or worse than most team's in the EPL significantly anyway.  They just got lucky this year striking gold and how they all gelled together.  They have a team spirit similar to the Crazy gang off the field from all accounts.  You can't scout for this unique situation.  It rarely happens in modern day sport because of the money involved and the egos.

You seriously telling me Leicester has signficantly better resource management than Stoke and West Ham for example long term?  Stoke and WHam's owners are two of the shrewder operators financially both in football and business and i would assume are doing everything Leicester are doing and more maybe (with bigger budgets) to maximize the off field edges they can squeeze.

Now hes universally viewed as hopeless. Almost all of those amazing finds are now worthless.  Think its far more relevant to draw parallels with chelseas team of last season because of how matic, hazard and costas performanced last season compared to kante, mahrez and vardy this season.

In fairness to newcastles scouting network theres been plenty of good players we have wanted and couldnt land because of tight wad ashley and for a period bigger clubs simply followed us in making our scouting a mere extension of their own, something leicester if league winners will be less susceptible to.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 22, 2016, 03:04:11 PM
Sir Alex Ferguson no less, has described Steve Walsh as the most influential man in the premier league this year

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6997258/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-sensationally-claims-Leicester-will-win-the-Premier-League-with-THREE-games-to-spare.html

he helped chelsea build their first monied squad in 2003-4. found drogba, essien etc

he teamed up with Pearson and has a great strike rate

not without his misses, but hugely positive

i genuinely believe we have way above average resources in "below top end" scouting. ie not Ozil for £32m but finding the sub £10m stuff

Arsenal have alread poached Ben Wigglesworth from his team and wanted Walsh too

we currently have 9 european scouts and i see the list of where we go every weekend. its a huge span of games across lots of countries

i accept the above will get laughed at, but he's very good and he has a great team around him


i don't also see team of our size with the investment in sports science we've made. not an easy sell to make this, but the injury record can be linked to the resources thrown into this (work on recovery times etc) as well of course as not being in many competitions

arsenal and spurs attend seminars at our training ground run by our sports science staff.

its like walking onto the bridge of the USS enterprise walking round the buildings.

--

when taking leicester, stoke,west ham etc as a whole technology in scouting has really levelled the playing field. i forget the system they use but it enables any player around the world to be watched at the click of a button, stats up to compare and contrast etc

ten years ago before these systems the big clubs had a huge advantage, not now


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on April 22, 2016, 03:18:11 PM


 i forget the system they use but it enables any player around the world to be watched at the click of a button, stats up to compare and contrast etc



Football manager?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 22, 2016, 03:28:53 PM
its called wyscout

"5 Recruitment

The fact Vardy and Mahrez cost less than £1.5m between them and would probably fetch at least 20 times that sum now says much for the recruitment and scouting department that has its fingerprints all over Leicester’s success and is increasingly attracting admiring glances from elsewhere.

Overseen by Walsh, who is the club’s joint assistant manager as well as their head of recruitment, Leicester have picked up several gems over the last few years and believe they may well have unearthed another in Kanté. Walsh has three predominantly office-based staff, who use the computer system Wyscout to scour through footage of the top five European leagues, putting together clips of already flagged-up targets while also comparing statistics of players elsewhere with those at their own club (Kanté had the best figures in Europe last season for recovering the ball).

They also have twelve full time scouts with David Worthington recently appointed head of European scouting, and it is no surprise other clubs are taking an interest in their work given their track record. Early this year Leicester lost Rob Mackenzie, their head of technical scouting, to Tottenham.

Walsh always insists players are watched live before they are pursued more seriously and will often attend games with David Mills, the senior scouting co-ordinator, before reporting back to Ranieri. The manager has bought into the process and insists that he and Walsh must be in agreement on a player before they proceed."

that was from last november


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 22, 2016, 03:37:07 PM
one of the other things that has gone on is of course we have hugely wealthy owners

all spending on training facilities, backroom staff such as scouting/sports science etc was FFP allowable expenditure and allowed the denominator of the wages/costs equation to rise substantially..in turn this allowed the wage bill on players to go up

so advances in technology hit over the same period as the imposition of FFP rules and the club being bought thus having the resources to do something about it to create a much more competitive club. We then had to make the right recruitment/managerial decisions to take it all to fruition

once you establish in the PL, it becomes self sustaining but that 2009-2013 period of trying to get up needed the investment to make it happen

even so, it is strongly argued that we "cheated" on FFP in our promotion season despite this (trestellar marketing deal)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 22, 2016, 03:39:07 PM
one of the other things that has gone on is of course we have hugely wealthy owners

all spending on training facilities, backroom staff such as scouting/sports science etc was FFP allowable expenditure and allowed the denominator of the wages/costs equation to rise substantially..in turn this allowed the wage bill on players to go up

so advances in technology hit over the same period as the imposition of FFP rules and the club being bought thus having the resources to do something about it to create a much more competitive club. We then had to make the right recruitment/managerial decisions to take it all to fruition

once you establish in the PL, it becomes self sustaining but that 2009-2013 period of trying to get up needed the investment to make it happen

even so, it is strongly argued that we "cheated" on FFP in our promotion season despite this (trestellar marketing deal)

So basically you've bought the league? Absolute scandal.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 22, 2016, 03:40:58 PM
one of the other things that has gone on is of course we have hugely wealthy owners

all spending on training facilities, backroom staff such as scouting/sports science etc was FFP allowable expenditure and allowed the denominator of the wages/costs equation to rise substantially..in turn this allowed the wage bill on players to go up

so advances in technology hit over the same period as the imposition of FFP rules and the club being bought thus having the resources to do something about it to create a much more competitive club. We then had to make the right recruitment/managerial decisions to take it all to fruition

once you establish in the PL, it becomes self sustaining but that 2009-2013 period of trying to get up needed the investment to make it happen

even so, it is strongly argued that we "cheated" on FFP in our promotion season despite this (trestellar marketing deal)

So basically you've bought the league? Absolute scandal.

the wage bill is £55m. Could just about get Sergio and Prince Harry De Bruyne for a year for that :-) 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 22, 2016, 03:43:05 PM
one of the other things that has gone on is of course we have hugely wealthy owners

all spending on training facilities, backroom staff such as scouting/sports science etc was FFP allowable expenditure and allowed the denominator of the wages/costs equation to rise substantially..in turn this allowed the wage bill on players to go up

so advances in technology hit over the same period as the imposition of FFP rules and the club being bought thus having the resources to do something about it to create a much more competitive club. We then had to make the right recruitment/managerial decisions to take it all to fruition

once you establish in the PL, it becomes self sustaining but that 2009-2013 period of trying to get up needed the investment to make it happen

even so, it is strongly argued that we "cheated" on FFP in our promotion season despite this (trestellar marketing deal)

So basically you've bought the league? Absolute scandal.

the wage bill is £55m. Could just about get Sergio and Prince Harry De Bruyne for a month for that :-) 

fyp


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 23, 2016, 12:54:16 PM
So I have been to all bar three home amtches this season and about 7 away matches

Sadly commitments and work have prevented me making more.

This means I am "Priority 2" which these days means very little hope of getting the "hot" away tickets

Chelsea gave us 3,000 tickets for the last game of the season, which may or may not be crucial

they were snapped up by "Priority 1" in half an hour

fair dos.

So i begin to consider getting a ticket in a chelsea area.

When this morning up pops a social media message from a remote firend of a friend, offering me an unwated ticket for the game

What price do you think i have been quoted?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PathFinder on April 23, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
I'm guessing a remote friend of a friend doesn't get you much discount lol! I've read tickets going for around £1500. But I'll take a more conservative guess of £250?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 23, 2016, 01:13:34 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 23, 2016, 01:19:00 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

*Gasp*


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: mondatoo on April 23, 2016, 01:30:08 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Make sure you will be able to buy a ticket for the Leicester game by doing that, Newcastle have said anyone who purchases membership now can't buy a Spurs ticket to stop Spurs fans doing exactly what you are planning.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 23, 2016, 08:11:57 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: KarmaDope on April 23, 2016, 08:21:16 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

Nah, that one is easy.

Roberto Martinez.

If Everton had a decent manager they'd be up there challenging for Europe.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 23, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on April 23, 2016, 09:13:47 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Hope he gets left with it.  Unbelievable greed.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DropTheHammer on April 23, 2016, 09:29:01 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Hope he gets left with it.  Unbelievable greed.

Well, first and foremost, the seller must be a fan to have notched up enough points to buy the ticket. He's probably thinking "I'm happy to go, but what price will I be willing to sell that experience?". He earned the right to be able to buy that ticket at face value, so I think he can sell it as he sees fit.

Since we live in a market economy prices are dictated by supply/demand. If he can find a rich Leicester fan, good luck to him. I'm sure there'll be other Chelsea seats available a lot cheaper.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 23, 2016, 09:40:08 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Hope he gets left with it.  Unbelievable greed.

Well, first and foremost, the seller must be a fan to have notched up enough points to buy the ticket. He's probably thinking "I'm happy to go, but what price will I be willing to sell that experience?". He earned the right to be able to buy that ticket at face value, so I think he can sell it as he sees fit.

Since we live in a market economy prices are dictated by supply/demand. If he can find a rich Leicester fan, good luck to him. I'm sure there'll be other Chelsea seats available a lot cheaper.

He is selling a ticket in the Chelsea end as per Tighty so he won't have had to attend any games to earn the right to have the ticket.  He is probably just selling his season ticket for the last game of the season which is a total dead rubber and trying to pay for his next 3 years season tickets in the process.  Seems totally logical to me.  The season ticket has zero value after the Leicester game to him.  Fair play to the guy.  I would do exactly the same thing in the situation.  Pretty sure he will get the £2000 or very close to it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DropTheHammer on April 23, 2016, 09:55:53 PM
Well, even if he literally had to do nothing to earn the right to buy that ticket apart from logging on at the right time, good luck to him! I'd take the unders on £2k arbboy if you want a bet ;-)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 23, 2016, 09:57:17 PM
Well, even if he literally had to do nothing to earn the right to buy that ticket apart from logging on at the right time, good luck to him! I'd take the unders on £2k arbboy if you want a bet ;-)

So would i that's why i said what i said!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 23, 2016, 10:52:06 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know

They've got a squad of players which should be challenging for the top 4.

Cannot think of a weakness except squad depth maybe.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 23, 2016, 11:02:25 PM
Lukaku barkley
Sometimes stones


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 23, 2016, 11:03:54 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know

They've got a squad of players which should be challenging for the top 4.

Cannot think of a weakness except squad depth maybe.

Variance


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 23, 2016, 11:09:52 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know

They've got a squad of players which should be challenging for the top 4.

Cannot think of a weakness except squad depth maybe.

Better squad of players than Liverpool at the start of the season.  How many liverpool players would have started for Everton at the start of the season?  3? 4 max?  Defensively have been so disappointing on so many occasions given their defensive quality on paper.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: edgascoigne on April 24, 2016, 08:15:11 AM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Whether availability remains I do not know but this site is showing packages... http://www.chelseahealthclub.com/matchday-hospitality


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 24, 2016, 11:10:05 AM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Hope he gets left with it.  Unbelievable greed.

Well, first and foremost, the seller must be a fan to have notched up enough points to buy the ticket. He's probably thinking "I'm happy to go, but what price will I be willing to sell that experience?". He earned the right to be able to buy that ticket at face value, so I think he can sell it as he sees fit.

Since we live in a market economy prices are dictated by supply/demand. If he can find a rich Leicester fan, good luck to him. I'm sure there'll be other Chelsea seats available a lot cheaper.

He is selling a ticket in the Chelsea end as per Tighty so he won't have had to attend any games to earn the right to have the ticket.  He is probably just selling his season ticket for the last game of the season which is a total dead rubber and trying to pay for his next 3 years season tickets in the process.  Seems totally logical to me.  The season ticket has zero value after the Leicester game to him.  Fair play to the guy.  I would do exactly the same thing in the situation.  Pretty sure he will get the £2000 or very close to it.

the person selling is a leicester fan

has attended virtually every game this season, which means he has the points to be on priority one

wants to make a turn.

If he does so and is reported for doing so, he (on the evidence of this week when people were banned) faces a three year ban from purchasing a lcfc season ticket, home tickets or lecfc away tickets

i don't think that's worth £2k


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on April 24, 2016, 05:23:48 PM
I'd grass the tout in.  Lowest of the low trying to profiteer from your own fans. 

Good start for Leicester today even without Vardy.  3 points today is massive I feel. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 24, 2016, 05:46:19 PM
Variance

Oh and destiny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on April 24, 2016, 06:17:37 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know

They've got a squad of players which should be challenging for the top 4.

Cannot think of a weakness except squad depth maybe.

Better squad of players than Liverpool at the start of the season.  How many liverpool players would have started for Everton at the start of the season?  3? 4 max?  Defensively have been so disappointing on so many occasions given their defensive quality on paper.

mignolet
clyne
moreno
lovren
sahko
henderson
milner
can
allen
lucas
firminho
countinho
lallana
sturridge
origi
benteke


would all snap get in and not even close i don't think, at the start of the season too i think


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 24, 2016, 06:23:23 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know

They've got a squad of players which should be challenging for the top 4.

Cannot think of a weakness except squad depth maybe.

Better squad of players than Liverpool at the start of the season.  How many liverpool players would have started for Everton at the start of the season?  3? 4 max?  Defensively have been so disappointing on so many occasions given their defensive quality on paper.

mignolet
clyne
moreno
lovren
sahko
henderson
milner
can
allen
lucas
firminho
countinho
lallana
sturridge
origi
benteke


would all snap get in and not even close i don't think, at the start of the season too i think

Sakho? Ahead of Stones or Jagielka?

You been on the Llama juice?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 24, 2016, 06:30:25 PM
Superb fishing

Origi at the start of this season yep ok then


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 24, 2016, 06:31:29 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Hope he gets left with it.  Unbelievable greed.

Well, first and foremost, the seller must be a fan to have notched up enough points to buy the ticket. He's probably thinking "I'm happy to go, but what price will I be willing to sell that experience?". He earned the right to be able to buy that ticket at face value, so I think he can sell it as he sees fit.

Since we live in a market economy prices are dictated by supply/demand. If he can find a rich Leicester fan, good luck to him. I'm sure there'll be other Chelsea seats available a lot cheaper.

He is selling a ticket in the Chelsea end as per Tighty so he won't have had to attend any games to earn the right to have the ticket.  He is probably just selling his season ticket for the last game of the season which is a total dead rubber and trying to pay for his next 3 years season tickets in the process.  Seems totally logical to me.  The season ticket has zero value after the Leicester game to him.  Fair play to the guy.  I would do exactly the same thing in the situation.  Pretty sure he will get the £2000 or very close to it.

the person selling is a leicester fan

has attended virtually every game this season, which means he has the points to be on priority one

wants to make a turn.

If he does so and is reported for doing so, he (on the evidence of this week when people were banned) faces a three year ban from purchasing a lcfc season ticket, home tickets or lecfc away tickets

i don't think that's worth £2k

I'm going to sound like capitalist scum here, but I don't think he's doing much wrong.

He's earned the right to buy a ticket and his price for missing the game and selling the ticket is £2000.

No one is forced to pay the amount he's asking and I'm sure he'll happily go to the game if no one meets it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 24, 2016, 06:52:46 PM
I agree with Keith, save your Dollar Tighty, £2k for 90 mins of footy? You probably won it by then anyway.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 24, 2016, 06:55:09 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know

They've got a squad of players which should be challenging for the top 4.

Cannot think of a weakness except squad depth maybe.

Better squad of players than Liverpool at the start of the season.  How many liverpool players would have started for Everton at the start of the season?  3? 4 max?  Defensively have been so disappointing on so many occasions given their defensive quality on paper.

mignolet
clyne
moreno
lovren
sahko
henderson
milner
can
allen
lucas
firminho
countinho
lallana
sturridge
origi
benteke


would all snap get in and not even close i don't think, at the start of the season too i think

Sakho? Ahead of Stones or Jagielka?

You been on the Llama juice?

lolzzzzz  I want some llama juice please.  Must be stronger than Stella.  Put some values on some of these players Pads at the start of the season just for comparison to their Everton counterparts if you don't mind.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on April 24, 2016, 07:22:25 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know

They've got a squad of players which should be challenging for the top 4.

Cannot think of a weakness except squad depth maybe.

Better squad of players than Liverpool at the start of the season.  How many liverpool players would have started for Everton at the start of the season?  3? 4 max?  Defensively have been so disappointing on so many occasions given their defensive quality on paper.

mignolet
clyne
moreno
lovren
sahko
henderson
milner
can
allen
lucas
firminho
countinho
lallana
sturridge
origi
benteke


would all snap get in and not even close i don't think, at the start of the season too i think

Sakho and Lovren over Jags and Stones?
Benteke over Lukaku?

No chance Everton would trade those players.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on April 24, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
Infact Origi over lukaku at the start of the season or even now or ever is the second funniest post ever.

Nearly as good as your Mike Williamson for England one


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 24, 2016, 07:41:28 PM
Huge win that. Match the spurs result next weekend and we could be In business. I am off to pen love letters to Tony pulis. Trademark backs to the wall 0-0 please sir, tomorrow night


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on April 24, 2016, 08:06:23 PM
Huge win that. Match the spurs result next weekend and we could be In business. I am off to pen love letters to Tony pulis. Trademark backs to the wall 0-0 please sir, tomorrow night

Unlucky Tighty, my model tells me it was 1-1.  Maybe you can do better next week?

As an aside.  Just read all about King Canute.  I got him all wrong it seems. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 24, 2016, 09:26:13 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Hope he gets left with it.  Unbelievable greed.

Well, first and foremost, the seller must be a fan to have notched up enough points to buy the ticket. He's probably thinking "I'm happy to go, but what price will I be willing to sell that experience?". He earned the right to be able to buy that ticket at face value, so I think he can sell it as he sees fit.

Since we live in a market economy prices are dictated by supply/demand. If he can find a rich Leicester fan, good luck to him. I'm sure there'll be other Chelsea seats available a lot cheaper.

He is selling a ticket in the Chelsea end as per Tighty so he won't have had to attend any games to earn the right to have the ticket.  He is probably just selling his season ticket for the last game of the season which is a total dead rubber and trying to pay for his next 3 years season tickets in the process.  Seems totally logical to me.  The season ticket has zero value after the Leicester game to him.  Fair play to the guy.  I would do exactly the same thing in the situation.  Pretty sure he will get the £2000 or very close to it.

the person selling is a leicester fan

has attended virtually every game this season, which means he has the points to be on priority one

wants to make a turn.

If he does so and is reported for doing so, he (on the evidence of this week when people were banned) faces a three year ban from purchasing a lcfc season ticket, home tickets or lecfc away tickets

i don't think that's worth £2k

I'm going to sound like capitalist scum here, but I don't think he's doing much wrong.

He's earned the right to buy a ticket and his price for missing the game and selling the ticket is £2000.

No one is forced to pay the amount he's asking and I'm sure he'll happily go to the game if no one meets it.

Selling out on missing a probable once in a lifetime experience is dirty imo. Hope Leicester win it by then so it's relatively worthless.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on April 24, 2016, 10:12:11 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Hope he gets left with it.  Unbelievable greed.

Well, first and foremost, the seller must be a fan to have notched up enough points to buy the ticket. He's probably thinking "I'm happy to go, but what price will I be willing to sell that experience?". He earned the right to be able to buy that ticket at face value, so I think he can sell it as he sees fit.

Since we live in a market economy prices are dictated by supply/demand. If he can find a rich Leicester fan, good luck to him. I'm sure there'll be other Chelsea seats available a lot cheaper.

He is selling a ticket in the Chelsea end as per Tighty so he won't have had to attend any games to earn the right to have the ticket.  He is probably just selling his season ticket for the last game of the season which is a total dead rubber and trying to pay for his next 3 years season tickets in the process.  Seems totally logical to me.  The season ticket has zero value after the Leicester game to him.  Fair play to the guy.  I would do exactly the same thing in the situation.  Pretty sure he will get the £2000 or very close to it.

the person selling is a leicester fan

has attended virtually every game this season, which means he has the points to be on priority one

wants to make a turn.

If he does so and is reported for doing so, he (on the evidence of this week when people were banned) faces a three year ban from purchasing a lcfc season ticket, home tickets or lecfc away tickets

i don't think that's worth £2k

I'm going to sound like capitalist scum here, but I don't think he's doing much wrong.

He's earned the right to buy a ticket and his price for missing the game and selling the ticket is £2000.

No one is forced to pay the amount he's asking and I'm sure he'll happily go to the game if no one meets it.

Selling out on missing a probable once in a lifetime experience is dirty imo. Hope Leicester win it by then so it's relatively worthless.

We have no idea of the guys motives, might have lost his job or bet his house on Spurs winning the league after trusting his model :)

Or maybe it is the only way he can afford to see Leicester in the Champions League next season.

Whatever, he has earnt the ticket, it's up to him what he does with it.

Touts hoovering up tickets so there's no availability for some events is far more annoying.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on April 24, 2016, 10:27:17 PM
it got me no discount!

£2000.

time to become a member of chelsea.

Hope he gets left with it.  Unbelievable greed.

Well, first and foremost, the seller must be a fan to have notched up enough points to buy the ticket. He's probably thinking "I'm happy to go, but what price will I be willing to sell that experience?". He earned the right to be able to buy that ticket at face value, so I think he can sell it as he sees fit.

Since we live in a market economy prices are dictated by supply/demand. If he can find a rich Leicester fan, good luck to him. I'm sure there'll be other Chelsea seats available a lot cheaper.

He is selling a ticket in the Chelsea end as per Tighty so he won't have had to attend any games to earn the right to have the ticket.  He is probably just selling his season ticket for the last game of the season which is a total dead rubber and trying to pay for his next 3 years season tickets in the process.  Seems totally logical to me.  The season ticket has zero value after the Leicester game to him.  Fair play to the guy.  I would do exactly the same thing in the situation.  Pretty sure he will get the £2000 or very close to it.

the person selling is a leicester fan

has attended virtually every game this season, which means he has the points to be on priority one

wants to make a turn.

If he does so and is reported for doing so, he (on the evidence of this week when people were banned) faces a three year ban from purchasing a lcfc season ticket, home tickets or lecfc away tickets

i don't think that's worth £2k

I'm going to sound like capitalist scum here, but I don't think he's doing much wrong.

He's earned the right to buy a ticket and his price for missing the game and selling the ticket is £2000.

No one is forced to pay the amount he's asking and I'm sure he'll happily go to the game if no one meets it.

Selling out on missing a probable once in a lifetime experience is dirty imo. Hope Leicester win it by then so it's relatively worthless.

We have no idea of the guys motives, might have lost his job or bet his house on Spurs winning the league after trusting his model :)

Or maybe it is the only way he can afford to see Leicester in the Champions League next season.

Whatever, he has earnt the ticket, it's up to him what he does with it.


Touts hoovering up tickets so there's no availability for some events is far more annoying.

It isnt though, its against the rules what hes doing. Its clear if he doesnt want to go it passes to the next priority, not to someone with more money than sense.

Its interesting to hear people cry that clubs rip people off but when fans do it on a much more disgraceful scale, its his right.

Who cares why hes selling his ticket, report him and let the club decide. Should we pay the touts a tip because his wife just screwed him in the divorce?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on April 24, 2016, 10:45:47 PM
It's a bigger a mystery as to why Everton have got so few points than why Leicester have got so many.

If you watched the first half itd tell u all u need to know

They've got a squad of players which should be challenging for the top 4.

Cannot think of a weakness except squad depth maybe.

Better squad of players than Liverpool at the start of the season.  How many liverpool players would have started for Everton at the start of the season?  3? 4 max?  Defensively have been so disappointing on so many occasions given their defensive quality on paper.

mignolet
clyne
moreno
lovren
sahko
henderson
milner
can
allen
lucas
firminho
countinho
lallana
sturridge
origi
benteke


would all snap get in and not even close i don't think, at the start of the season too i think

Sakho? Ahead of Stones or Jagielka?

You been on the Llama juice?

Jagielka and its not close lol


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on April 25, 2016, 12:40:05 AM
Ok, firstly looking at the start of the league:

ODDS TO WIN 2015-16 BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE
CHELSEA 3/2
MANCHESTER CITY 5/2
ARSENAL 4/1
MANCHESTER UNITED 5/1
LIVERPOOL 25/1
TOTTENHAM 100/1
SOUTHAMPTON 250/1
EVERTON 250/1

If I say Jose Enrqiue and Moreno would both get in Evertons team, obviously I mean separately. Its like saying Fernando wouldn't get a game for Gretna Green because Yaya and Delph will be playing.

mignolet   -> Quite clearly better than Howard imo.
clyne  -> Close between Coleman and Clyne, at the start of the season he was big new signing who played great last year, I think he's had a better season
moreno -> Baines has been deteriorating for a long time now
lovren  -> IMO he is better than Jagielka, at the start of the season he definitely was seem as being better, has been great since Klopp came too.
skrtel  -> Another I think is better than Jagielka
sahko -> Whilst I think he is better now than Jags at the start of the season the general consensus may have been different.

henderson  -> had a great season, was made the new Liverpool captain, clearly better than Cleverly
milner -> Was seen as the best free transfer in years, again clearly better than most/all of Evertons midfielders
can -> I doubt anybody has complains here
allen -> This one is probably wrong at the start of the season, has been great recently though
Lucas  -> better than Barry
Firminho  -> New signing from Brazil, better than Lennon
Coutinho  -> Better than anybody in Evertons squad
Lallana  -> Better than any attacking midfielder from Everton including Mirallas, Lennon, Kone etc
Sturridge -> Better than Lukaku, if he was fit and signed for Everton he would clearly start the first game of the season
origi -> OK at start of the season wrong, now he would play upfront with Lukaku
Benteke  -> Was a huge 30m signing that was tipped to do amazingly well, started infant of Lukaku for Belgium would play with him at Everton

So for me thats 13 definite starters. Skrtel, Sahko, Allen, Origi would have been at least massively contending for a place if they didnt get one. Like I said obviously there wouldn't be room for 5 strikers, but thats clearly not the best way to do it imo.

The talk of only 3 players would get into Evertons team is laughable, like Carragher said, this Everton team on paper is not good and its just a myth.

Terrible goalkeeper
Very weak and inexperienced defence
Substantially lacking in quality in midfield
No depth up front


Cant see how my post got horseplay so angry "D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 25, 2016, 09:54:55 AM
some visitors yesterday

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0yH2pWkAApGtJ.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 25, 2016, 09:55:41 AM
Riyad Mahrez is the beautiful loon in Leicester’s march towards history.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/apr/25/riyad-mahrez-leicester-premier-league-pfa-player-of-the-year?CMP=share_btn_tw


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 25, 2016, 09:57:59 AM
 Leicester have only conceded the first goal in 1 of their last 17 PL matches since Boxing Day. (Rondon, WBA home 2-2)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tiger on April 25, 2016, 02:20:56 PM
Help settle an argument at work (Not with Tikay, I don't bother arguing with him)

You can only have 1 of Mahrez or Kante for your remaining games, which one do you have?



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 25, 2016, 02:39:22 PM
Help settle an argument at work (Not with Tikay, I don't bother arguing with him)

You can only have 1 of Mahrez or Kante for your remaining games, which one do you have?



Kante

I could live with Demarai Gray on the wing, think he's a very good young talent but the drop off for midfield and defence without Kante is larger

nothing goes through the middle with Kante playing, so teams try to go wide and when they do Huth and Morgan mop up every cross


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2016, 03:50:57 PM
Help settle an argument at work (Not with Tikay, I don't bother arguing with him)

You can only have 1 of Mahrez or Kante for your remaining games, which one do you have?



That's because I'm always right.

As it happens, the reply Tighty gave is pretty much exactly what I would have said.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 25, 2016, 10:24:59 PM
Ooooooh


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 25, 2016, 10:38:15 PM
Variance


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 25, 2016, 10:44:42 PM
Destiny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 25, 2016, 10:44:50 PM
Come on!! 3 points to win it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on April 25, 2016, 10:48:44 PM
Let's spare a moment for Totnams though - they are the best team and that and have made a valiant effort.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 25, 2016, 10:49:43 PM
They think it's all over.

A win on Sunday, trophy at next home game. How much does that Chelsea ticket go down in value?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 25, 2016, 10:51:46 PM
West brom win the pulister prize. Amazing scenes!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2016, 10:57:06 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2016, 10:58:10 PM
I have full Leics home and away programme sets in mint condition most of them signed by players every game from that eight year era.  Have they gone up in value now?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on April 25, 2016, 10:59:22 PM
Great stuff

Feel a bit sorry for the fellas at statsbomb,

Loved Altidore's bowtie of sadness here

http://statsbomb.com/2016/04/understand-football-radars-for-mugs-and-muggles/ (http://statsbomb.com/2016/04/understand-football-radars-for-mugs-and-muggles/)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 25, 2016, 11:00:27 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

Here they come....


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2016, 11:05:41 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

Here they come....

Hardly tighty knows I was born and bred leics we have spoke about it many times,  this is the second biggest losing bet of my life. Hardly something to brag about.  They couldn't win they shouldn't have won but they have fucking shit up.  Fair play to them.  It is great for the betting industry long term and I see the positives. The amount of free advertising the betting industry has got in the mainstream media and social media is quite incredible because of this story.  Everyone in the betting industry knows it is a great story and paying with a smile publicily at least!!  Still stings but good old pulis has done a job tonight.  Monster gamble landed for the judges tonight on the wba scorer at any time fwiw.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 25, 2016, 11:07:43 PM
I'm just messing- huge win for football overall and proud to be just associated with the City even tho there'll be plenty of "fans" who will be unbearable (yes yes I know this is rich coming from a United fan)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
How many Leics games have you been to George as a born and bred leics fella just out of interest? Or was it just wear the latest shirt of the champs when you were a kid and pretend you are a manure fan? I would happily bet I have been to old Trafford for twice as many games as you even though I ain't a manure fan.

Why are you not a leics fan? Feel free to explain.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 25, 2016, 11:09:44 PM
I'm not a Leicester fan. My post was tongue in cheek. Don't wanna hijack the thread.

I have been to one Leicester game lifetime. Saw them lose 1-0 to Blackburn at Wembley in the playoff final. I have no idea why I went to that game and not one more locally but it was possible the worst match in history.

Been Walkers once to see England play (I forget who). Most of the press around that game was the England captaincy changing loads.

I've seen United and OT 4 times. 3 in Europe- once in the premiership ironically against Stoke on the final day of the season when Chelsea did the double under Ancelotti


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on April 25, 2016, 11:11:10 PM
How spurs would have loved one of those lucky one - nil wins, they don't seem nearly as risible now, eh.

Arbboy, care to expand on your losing bet?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 25, 2016, 11:12:15 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

Lol at you should support the team where you live.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on April 25, 2016, 11:14:19 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

You think that's bad?

My accountant has his office walls covered in rejection letters. Every time they're looking for a new manager he applies for the job. He held two season tix for forty years and when the KP opened he was invited along to chose his seats. (He asked for swivels on the seats and when asked why he said "sometimes I like to turn and watch the crowd it's more entertaining). He got two, end of row, half way line 15 rows back.

On the day Leicester lost to Watford after a last minute penalty miss in the play offs he said "that's enough!" And cancelled his tickets!!!

(Btw he's not my financial planning advisor!)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2016, 11:17:40 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

Lol at you should support the team where you live.

You should. If everyone supported their local team football would be much better at grass roots level IMO of course.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 25, 2016, 11:20:37 PM
Vardy banned for Man U game too


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2016, 11:21:02 PM
How spurs would have loved one of those lucky one - nil wins, they don't seem nearly as risible now, eh.

Arbboy, care to expand on your losing bet?

Not really.  A five figure loss laying Leics at various prices that were comical but they won so they knew and because they won they were right and I was wrong.  Simple as that really.  Lay short ones.  Never go skint laying s short one the old boys tell you.  I said months ago I laid Leics to Lose fortunes on here. It isn't new news. Haven't laid them at any price under 10/1 either. Glad I didn't I nearly went for it and really got stuck in at the shorter prices but I was 'lol full' as the old school chompy types say!!!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 25, 2016, 11:22:19 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

Lol at you should support the team where you live.

You should. If everyone supported their local team football would be much better at grass roots level IMO of course.

I moved from Glasgow to London when I was 10. I lived 50 yards from white hart lane. I went to games, if Spurs won or lost I didn't care, so I tried arsenal, again I didn't care. All I wanted to do was find out how Celtic got on. It's not as easy as you make it sound.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on April 25, 2016, 11:24:43 PM
Ah ok, I don't read the forums everyday so was unaware.

Thanks for answering, really enjoy your posts btw.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2016, 11:25:50 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

Lol at you should support the team where you live.

You should. If everyone supported their local team football would be much better at grass roots level IMO of course.

I moved from Glasgow to London when I was 10. I lived 50 yards from white hart lane. I went to games, if Spurs won or lost I didn't care, so I tried arsenal, again I didn't care. All I wanted to do was find out how Celtic got on. It's not as easy as you make it sound.

Religion with you son tbh.  Far bigger factor. Most football fans can't use that excuse.  I am in Edin tonight are you at fountain park? Decent cash? Had it off at the miser horse tracks last two days and fancy a spin. You there?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 25, 2016, 11:28:37 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

Lol at you should support the team where you live.

You should. If everyone supported their local team football would be much better at grass roots level IMO of course.

I moved from Glasgow to London when I was 10. I lived 50 yards from white hart lane. I went to games, if Spurs won or lost I didn't care, so I tried arsenal, again I didn't care. All I wanted to do was find out how Celtic got on. It's not as easy as you make it sound.

Religion with you son tbh.  Far bigger factor. Most football fans can't use that excuse.  I am in Edin tonight are you at fountain park? Decent cash? Had it off at the miser horse tracks last two days and fancy a spin. You there?

Lol at religion. Now I know you're at it for sure.

Not there son, was waiting for you to text me to let me know when you were buying dinner :(


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 25, 2016, 11:34:47 PM
Congrats tighty.  This goes into my 1.01 brutal donk off lifetime folder of 'how the fuck did that really win'.  I am a Leics kid born and bred season ticket holder for 8 years as a kid at filbert St in front of 8000 in the dark dark days of the mid to late 1980s. I think you should always support your local team wherever you live and football would be better, Only someone as unlucky as me can jump ship to support my new local team at Stoke (who are smoking and I got called a glory hunter many times) and my team where I grew up now win the epl at 5000/1. Sometimes you just have to realise you are born unlucky.  I would happily bet not many leics fans now have actually been to as many Leics games lifetime as I have.

Lol at you should support the team where you live.

You should. If everyone supported their local team football would be much better at grass roots level IMO of course.

I moved from Glasgow to London when I was 10. I lived 50 yards from white hart lane. I went to games, if Spurs won or lost I didn't care, so I tried arsenal, again I didn't care. All I wanted to do was find out how Celtic got on. It's not as easy as you make it sound.

Religion with you son tbh.  Far bigger factor. Most football fans can't use that excuse.  I am in Edin tonight are you at fountain park? Decent cash? Had it off at the miser horse tracks last two days and fancy a spin. You there?

Lol at religion. Now I know you're at it for sure.

Not there son, was waiting for you to text me to let me know when you were buying dinner :(

lol all the Maltese are Celtic no? Never met many rangers in Malta the year I lived there!I will buy you dinner at fountain tonight if you are there!  Nan dos gagging for it. I got ten Scottish hunner notes at Ayr races today and I need to convert them to proper English spendable cash before I go home on weds.  Fountain park seems the best place to do it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 26, 2016, 07:57:49 AM
Well being an Man city fan and living in Leicester it's hard to take, my boys are big Man City fans to and have had some real tough abuse at school, yeah cos of the team they support, I have been a Blue all of my life, born in Moss Side so who else can I follow, followed city all over, but very rarely do I go to the Etihad, prefer away games tbh, better atmosphere and missing two premiership away day outings to complete the lot. Well done Leicester,pleased for Tighty pleased for Blakey,but that's your lot.Enjoy,drink it all as you will never see anything like this again.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 26, 2016, 01:45:51 PM


For Tighty, & other long tem Leicester fans such as Argue - today's Times has a lovely piece by Henry Winter. The headline says it all.

Why Kante rather than Mahrez is Player of the Year.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 26, 2016, 02:17:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Coral/status/724897726039773184?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Woodsey on April 26, 2016, 05:57:35 PM
10 things bookies thought more likely than Leicester winning the Premier League

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36138413/10-things-bookies-thought-more-likely-than-leicester-winning-the-premier-league?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 26, 2016, 07:40:41 PM
Theatre of Dreams Sunday Tighty, would be nice to scoop it there?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 26, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
Theatre of Dreams Sunday Tighty, would be nice to scoop it there?

it would but not very likely

at home to Everton would be lovely if not.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 26, 2016, 07:58:03 PM
Trophy presented at Everton game, at home, if beat Man U tho


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on April 26, 2016, 08:19:10 PM
Son's final Leicestershire U17 game is scheduled for 2pm ko on Sunday - and the opposition don't want to reschedule! Dead rubber with neither team able to move up or down.

Can see a broken fixture fine being handed out.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 26, 2016, 10:59:12 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11712/10258696/transfer-to-psg-does-not-excite-me-says-leicesters-riyad-mahrez


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 27, 2016, 03:34:15 PM
wikipedia

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChCb9DXUoAAF2v1.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on April 27, 2016, 03:44:05 PM
wikipedia

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChCb9DXUoAAF2v1.jpg)

:D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 27, 2016, 05:06:54 PM
Is this the worst cash out in history? http://spr.ly/6011BmVYN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDuAnlU8AAyezW.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Cf on April 27, 2016, 05:37:47 PM
wikipedia

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChCb9DXUoAAF2v1.jpg)

:D

Very good lol


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 27, 2016, 05:44:42 PM
Is this the worst cash out in history? http://spr.ly/6011BmVYN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDuAnlU8AAyezW.jpg)

Punter Just testing how cash out worked on the website i reckon on something that 'couldn't win' but has! 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 27, 2016, 06:26:14 PM
Is this the worst cash out in history? http://spr.ly/6011BmVYN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDuAnlU8AAyezW.jpg)

Punter Just testing how cash out worked on the website i reckon on something that 'couldn't win' but has!  

They don't tell you they restricted his original request from 75p :D

I'm sure arb is right, tho. Can't be any more plausible explanation.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 27, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
Is this the worst cash out in history? http://spr.ly/6011BmVYN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDuAnlU8AAyezW.jpg)

Punter Just testing how cash out worked on the website i reckon on something that 'couldn't win' but has!  

They don't tell you they restricted his original request from 75p :D

I'm sure arb is right, tho. Can't be any more plausible explanation.

Maybe he needed the cash to place another bet?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on April 27, 2016, 10:11:46 PM
Nigel Pearson linked with Celtic. Good/bad? 

I quite like the idea,seems to have gone down like a lead balloon with most Celtic fans. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 27, 2016, 10:20:29 PM
Nigel Pearson linked with Celtic. Good/bad? 

I quite like the idea,seems to have gone down like a lead balloon with most Celtic fans. 

Really can't see him working with the current board.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on April 27, 2016, 10:25:23 PM
Maybe Desmond gets rid of Pedger Lol-well?  That would be like Christmas.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 28, 2016, 02:38:27 AM
Is this the worst cash out in history? http://spr.ly/6011BmVYN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDuAnlU8AAyezW.jpg)

Punter Just testing how cash out worked on the website i reckon on something that 'couldn't win' but has!  

They don't tell you they restricted his original request from 75p :D

I'm sure arb is right, tho. Can't be any more plausible explanation.

Maybe he needed the cash to place another bet?

lolzzz.  Sure he wouldn't have placed the first bet if he needed the 2nd bet.  Nice level as the kidzzzz say!  How's the diet?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 28, 2016, 11:09:01 AM
sniff

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlldvs-8YGY


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PathFinder on April 28, 2016, 01:00:46 PM
It would seem Nigel Pearson's son's racist comment is the best thing to happen to Leicester in their history lol!

In all seriousness, Claudio comes across a very humble and likeable guy.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 28, 2016, 01:26:05 PM
Is this the worst cash out in history? http://spr.ly/6011BmVYN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDuAnlU8AAyezW.jpg)

Punter Just testing how cash out worked on the website i reckon on something that 'couldn't win' but has!  

They don't tell you they restricted his original request from 75p :D

I'm sure arb is right, tho. Can't be any more plausible explanation.

Maybe he needed the cash to place another bet?

lolzzz.  Sure he wouldn't have placed the first bet if he needed the 2nd bet.  Nice level as the kidzzzz say!  How's the diet?

His account balance is £1.25........it's perfectly feasible he was looking for another ten bob or so. Many of these guys live hand to mouth with punting money.

The diet? Tickity boo. I do diets well. I pile it back on well, too. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on April 28, 2016, 10:58:52 PM


In all seriousness, Claudio comes across a very humble and likeable guy.

i always thought chelsea treated claudio badly

wanted him for saints when we lost pottichino
glad we got koeman though

chuffed to bit for claudio and leicester


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on April 28, 2016, 11:03:25 PM
Is this the worst cash out in history? http://spr.ly/6011BmVYN

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChDuAnlU8AAyezW.jpg)

Punter Just testing how cash out worked on the website i reckon on something that 'couldn't win' but has! 

They don't tell you they restricted his original request from 75p :D

I'm sure arb is right, tho. Can't be any more plausible explanation.

Maybe he needed the cash to place another bet?

lolzzz.  Sure he wouldn't have placed the first bet if he needed the 2nd bet.  Nice level as the kidzzzz say!  How's the diet?

His account balance is £1.25........it's perfectly feasible he was looking for another ten bob or so. Many of these guys live hand to mouth with punting money.

The diet? Tickity boo. I do diets well. I pile it back on well, too. 

i see laddies are offering the punter a freebet and a hospitallity day out

i think they might even offer him some cash to star in ad for next season promoting their cash out service


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 29, 2016, 02:17:23 PM
Claudio Ranieri: a gentle and principled man on the brink of immortality

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/29/claudio-ranieri-gentle-man-leicester-city-premier-league?CMP=share_btn_tw


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on April 29, 2016, 11:56:12 PM
Would Leicester fans not prefer to win the title at home?
Or maybe just sitting at home as Tottenham slip up?
You don't need to win it this weekend, why the rush?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2016, 12:04:54 AM
Just seems like the Hollywood ending to claim the title at OT


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 30, 2016, 12:43:39 AM
Just seems like the Hollywood ending to claim the title at OT

It's not 2009 anymore Mr Bedi.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2016, 01:05:07 AM
Still most successful domestic club tho :D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: BorntoBubble on April 30, 2016, 02:16:14 AM
Still most successful domestic club tho :D

Still the club that gets the highest visiting away fans attendances, still the club that when our noisy neighbours play in europe a lot of the visiting fans come to do our stadium tour!

One day City can dream that they will be the bigger club, but not just yet.

In regards to what George is saying, i am sure Leicester dont give two hoots where they win it as long as they do win it, but i am sure in front of a packed house at Old Trafford and an Empty Emptyhied i think i know which one they would choose!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 30, 2016, 02:41:51 AM
Still most successful domestic club tho :D

Still the club that gets the highest visiting away fans attendances, still the club that when our noisy neighbours play in europe a lot of the visiting fans come to do our stadium tour!

One day City can dream that they will be the bigger club, but not just yet.

In regards to what George is saying, i am sure Leicester dont give two hoots where they win it as long as they do win it, but i am sure in front of a packed house at Old Trafford and an Empty Emptyhied i think i know which one they would choose!

lol ok.

Gets the highest visiting away attendances cos it has the highest away allocation in the league?
A handful of PSG fans at the swamp suddenly means ''a lot of visiting fans'' do the O/T tour? Though what other stadium tour are they gonna do? Bury? Macclesfield?

Like I said boys, it's not 2009 anymore.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2016, 09:17:33 AM
Yet United are still a far bigger club than City will ever be


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 30, 2016, 09:39:53 AM
Would the rags prefer to be the biggest or the best?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on April 30, 2016, 09:55:57 AM
All these small Manchester teams coming on here and spoiling our party thread.

Leave us Leicester fans alone please. :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 30, 2016, 09:57:30 AM
All these small Manchester teams coming on here and spoiling our party thread.

Leave us Leicester fans alone please. :)

Agreed, it's not fair on the long term Leicester fans such as you & Argue. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2016, 10:14:18 AM
Would Leicester fans not prefer to win the title at home?
Or maybe just sitting at home as Tottenham slip up?
You don't need to win it this weekend, why the rush?

in order

just win it

win it asap

win it at old trafford

win it by chelsea taking something off spurs

beat everton

win it last game

finish second


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2016, 10:17:41 AM
i must say though, the city is going bonkers for this

fantastic atmosphere in the city centre, flags everywhere, scarves on statues, murals of ranieri etc etc


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on April 30, 2016, 10:18:05 AM
All these small Manchester teams coming on here and spoiling our party thread.

Leave us Leicester fans alone please. :)

Agreed, it's not fair on the long term Leicester fans such as you & Argue. 

Agreed, we have boards for the mid table teams like them, Liverpool and Southampton.  


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on April 30, 2016, 10:19:55 AM
All these small Manchester teams coming on here and spoiling our party thread.

Leave us Leicester fans alone please. :)

Agreed, it's not fair on the long term Leicester fans such as you & Argue. 

Agreed, we have boards for the mid table teams like them, Liverpool and Southampton.  



Along with the perennial strugglers, Arsenal ;)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2016, 10:25:02 AM
How Claudio Ranieri's tactics put his rivals to shame at LCFC

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/30/how-claudio-ranieris-tactics-put-his-rivals-to-shame-at-leiceste/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on April 30, 2016, 11:27:32 AM
Enjoy the day Tighty,cheering the Blue team as always


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2016, 11:29:15 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChE3QXzWgAQ4jFI.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 30, 2016, 12:16:55 PM
Enjoy the day Tighty,cheering the Blue team as always

+1

Hope you smash them at the swamp. I know they are the biggest club ever, with 8 billion fans worldwide and a further 4 billion on the season ticket wait list, but I fancy little Leicester City to do them today.

It's funny watching united fans morph into dippers on a daily basis :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on April 30, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
Rooting for you today. I don't want Chelsea fans being able to say they had any influence on Leicester winning the title and Spurs not.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on April 30, 2016, 12:19:43 PM
Waiting for the first Selby/Leicester double betting slip to appear at 12/1 and 5000/1 from some hard core leicester local in the press once Selby gets to the final of the snooker.  The 5000/1 slips on their own are getting a bit boring now.  Need someone new and more exciting.

£10 double to return nearly a million.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on April 30, 2016, 12:22:22 PM

Good luck today lads.

I've never really cared WHO won the Premier League in previous years, but this season it's different. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on April 30, 2016, 12:52:34 PM
Rooting for you today


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on April 30, 2016, 01:04:58 PM
Everyone keeps saying today
Isn't it tomorrow


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 30, 2016, 01:12:56 PM
Have Kasabian started supporting Leicester again?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on April 30, 2016, 01:13:52 PM
Have Kasabian started supporting Leicester again?


two of them always have done, tom and serge.

season tickets, go to matches.

playing two concerts at the king power 20-21 may. huge buzz about that too


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2016, 01:51:54 PM
Would the rags prefer to be the biggest or the best?

All I was alluding to was if this was a Hollywood film the ending would take place at OT and no other English stadium of club come close


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on April 30, 2016, 02:37:02 PM
Would the rags prefer to be the biggest or the best?

All I was alluding to was if this was a Hollywood film the ending would take place at OT and no other English stadium of club come close

Hollywood exec "can we make this story about Manchester United? "


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on April 30, 2016, 03:23:12 PM
Would the rags prefer to be the biggest or the best?

All I was alluding to was if this was a Hollywood film the ending would take place at OT and no other English stadium of club come close

Hollywood exec "can we make this story about Manchester United? "

By the time hollywood are finshed, vardy would be from the bronx, man united would still be in the title race, and all the man united team would be russians.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 30, 2016, 04:27:13 PM
Would the rags prefer to be the biggest or the best?

All I was alluding to was if this was a Hollywood film the ending would take place at OT and no other English stadium of club come close

Hollywood exec "can we make this story about Manchester United? "

By the time hollywood are finshed, vardy would be from the bronx, man united would still be in the title race, and all the man united team would be russians.

Definitely tinsletown stuff.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on April 30, 2016, 05:50:39 PM
Would the rags prefer to be the biggest or the best?

All I was alluding to was if this was a Hollywood film the ending would take place at OT and no other English stadium of club come close

Hollywood exec "can we make this story about Manchester United? "

lol


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on April 30, 2016, 06:31:36 PM
Would Leicester fans not prefer to win the title at home?
Or maybe just sitting at home as Tottenham slip up?
You don't need to win it this weekend, why the rush?

in order

just win it

win it asap

win it at old trafford

win it by chelsea taking something off spurs

beat everton

win it last game

finish second


Thanks, good to see a genuine response to the post.

I said some time ago that I would be happier to see Leicester win the league than to see my club win it playing as they have this season. But I do still want us to finish in the top 4 so, no offence,  but I hope we delay your gratification a little.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 01, 2016, 03:30:16 AM
Similar to all the united fan forums should be a good atmosphere later.

United fans wanting you boys to win the league obv but we need to win tomorrow so, you guys will have to wait im sorry.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on May 01, 2016, 07:34:18 AM
Looking forward to this later and here is hoping Leicester get the business done today....


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on May 01, 2016, 09:17:20 AM
Best of luck to Leicester today. Hope they get it won early.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Newportlad on May 01, 2016, 10:31:53 AM
Best of luck Leicester.  Its been a remarkable season and i really hope they can seal the deal at Old Trafford


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on May 01, 2016, 01:50:27 PM


I haven't felt this nervous since the wife came downstairs one night and said "I've had a bath!"


 ;hide;


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on May 01, 2016, 02:18:58 PM
Gl Blakey,sure Hazel will have the tabs on full pelt.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on May 01, 2016, 02:37:53 PM
Gl Blakey,sure Hazel will have the tabs on full pelt.


 :)up


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on May 01, 2016, 04:54:42 PM
Not the worst result, blocks spurs doing anything but 3 wins.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 01, 2016, 04:56:18 PM
ok that. well on top for spells, under it for the last 15, denied a stonewall penalty, fellani sending off missed but a fair result nonetheless

the draw takes the spurs draw tomorrow night away from them


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 01, 2016, 05:03:07 PM
Fair result. Ref bottled it for Uniteds penalty tho


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 01, 2016, 05:04:50 PM
Fair result. Ref bottled it for Uniteds penalty tho

lol was a clear dive by Utd player.  Amazed the ref didn't book him given he made the correct decision for no pen.  Simpson played it perfectly.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 01, 2016, 05:23:14 PM
i think you are referring to different incidents

Simpson on Lngard, not enough contact, no foul no red

Fellaini on Huth, red card not spotted. will be banned by video

Rojo on Mahrez. penalty inexplicably not given

Rooney on Gray, free kick not given just outside box when he held him back on the counter, would be second yellow

Drinkwater on Depay, first contact just outside box. no pen, but definite second yellow

swings and roundabouts!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on May 01, 2016, 05:43:00 PM
The Drinkwater on Memphis foul shows vividly how difficult a job being a referee is.

The "experts" watched the replay about 10 times from 6 different angles and still couldn't decide on pen or no pen, and only agreed on yellow card after 7 of the views.

So tough being a ref these days.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: anthonyl on May 01, 2016, 06:17:17 PM
Memphis decision is irrelevant for me.

Mahrez was 100% nailed on penalty and Fellaini should have been sent off.

Well done Leicester.

Benin, Luxembourg, San Marino are 5000/1 to win the 2018 WC, what an achievement by Leicester. Only two years ago we played you off the park and won 4-1 at your place and 3-1 in the home game when you got promoted.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on May 01, 2016, 06:20:49 PM
i think you are referring to different incidents

Simpson on Lngard, not enough contact, no foul no red

Fellaini on Huth, red card not spotted. will be banned by video

Rojo on Mahrez. penalty inexplicably not given

Rooney on Gray, free kick not given just outside box when he held him back on the counter, would be second yellow

Drinkwater on Depay, first contact just outside box. no pen, but definite second yellow

swings and roundabouts!

Agree with all these. Thought apart from the first 20 mins we were poor. Old United teams would have kicked on after the first goal and got a hat full. Fellaini being the same old useless, liability he has all season. Can't wait till Shaw is back as well. Rojo is awful.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 01, 2016, 06:59:00 PM
Fellaini had a good game. Shame he's a dirty bastard.

Rojo terrible. Shaw and Fosu next year will be good.

Still don't know Herrara doesn't get a game.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 01, 2016, 07:01:26 PM
Fellaini had a good game. Shame he's a dirty bastard.

Rojo terrible. Shaw and Fosu next year will be good.

Still don't know Herrara doesn't get a game.

as a neutral apart from today, i would like to see martial down the middle. influence the game more.

was a corking game, having just re-watched it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on May 01, 2016, 07:34:25 PM
Fellaini had a good game. Shame he's a dirty bastard.

Rojo terrible. Shaw and Fosu next year will be good.

Still don't know Herrara doesn't get a game.

Fellaini is a proper nasty piece of work.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on May 01, 2016, 09:45:45 PM
i think you are referring to different incidents

Simpson on Lngard, not enough contact, no foul no red

Fellaini on Huth, red card not spotted. will be banned by video

Rojo on Mahrez. penalty inexplicably not given

Rooney on Gray, free kick not given just outside box when he held him back on the counter, would be second yellow

Drinkwater on Depay, first contact just outside box. no pen, but definite second yellow


Agree with all that.

Where do we stand on Huth and hair pulling? Would that be considered as violent conduct?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on May 01, 2016, 09:53:18 PM
i think you are referring to different incidents

Simpson on Lngard, not enough contact, no foul no red

Fellaini on Huth, red card not spotted. will be banned by video

Rojo on Mahrez. penalty inexplicably not given

Rooney on Gray, free kick not given just outside box when he held him back on the counter, would be second yellow

Drinkwater on Depay, first contact just outside box. no pen, but definite second yellow


Agree with all that.

Where do we stand on Huth and hair pulling? Would that be considered as violent conduct?

I imagine it will be but I don't like all these bans like Alli for small infringements.  I think you should only get banned if you absolutely spark someone like that time Davis smashed Glenn Cockerill in the chops for little apparent reason.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 02, 2016, 12:40:54 AM
i think you are referring to different incidents

Simpson on Lngard, not enough contact, no foul no red

Fellaini on Huth, red card not spotted. will be banned by video

Rojo on Mahrez. penalty inexplicably not given

Rooney on Gray, free kick not given just outside box when he held him back on the counter, would be second yellow

Drinkwater on Depay, first contact just outside box. no pen, but definite second yellow


Agree with all that.

Where do we stand on Huth and hair pulling? Would that be considered as violent conduct?

I imagine it will be but I don't like all these bans like Alli for small infringements.  I think you should only get banned if you absolutely spark someone like that time Davis smashed Glenn Cockerill in the chops for little apparent reason.

Pulling hair is just a crappy way to try for a reaction. Fully deserves a ban.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2016, 12:51:08 AM
Only just seen it now.

Ban them both, or neither, imo.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 02, 2016, 11:08:41 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChZClD1W0AEXRrk.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 02, 2016, 11:25:33 AM
football writers association player of the year

1 vardy

2 kante

3 mahrez

http://footballwriters.co.uk/news/jamie-vardy-voted-fwa-footballer-of-the-year-2016/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on May 02, 2016, 10:37:09 PM
Hollllllllllld


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 02, 2016, 10:39:14 PM
Destiny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on May 02, 2016, 10:42:17 PM
6 mins of injury time while the ref searches for more people to book.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on May 02, 2016, 10:48:07 PM
The best team won the league.
Amazing. Hope their form continues for yet another whole year and they keep mahrez and kante


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: RickBFA on May 02, 2016, 10:48:44 PM
Congratulations Tighty.

Best thing to happen to English football in last 30 years.

Shows that money doesn't always buy success.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on May 02, 2016, 10:49:28 PM
congratulations


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 02, 2016, 10:50:31 PM
Yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 02, 2016, 10:51:45 PM
How? Unbelievable.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: muckthenuts on May 02, 2016, 10:53:04 PM
Congratulations, and thank fuck it wasn't Spurs!!!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on May 02, 2016, 10:53:42 PM
To all those people who thought I was overstating it when I said that Chelsea would lose on purpose on the last game of the season if it would ensure Spurs didn't win the league, I accept your apology.

Well done, Leicester.

It's ours in 16/17, though...


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 02, 2016, 10:54:24 PM
Congratulations Tighty and the other Leicester fans. Really pleased for you.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on May 02, 2016, 10:55:02 PM
How? Variance



FYP


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on May 02, 2016, 10:58:55 PM

Destiny


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on May 02, 2016, 11:01:57 PM
Well done Leicester for an incredible achievement in this day and age.

You found the perfect recipe of craft, pace, power, and uncomprimising grit all overseen by the master-tactician Claudio Ranieri who's input should not be underestimated.

I think this smiley is fairly apropos:  ;tightend;


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on May 02, 2016, 11:02:11 PM
Wish you'd have taken 6th and the cup final back in December.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on May 02, 2016, 11:07:13 PM
Party time on Saturday :)

Magnificent, surprising, deserved.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on May 02, 2016, 11:14:26 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/FuchsOfficial/status/727242055995392000/video/1


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on May 02, 2016, 11:37:46 PM
Three stats from Premier League Zone:

Since Arsenal last won the league, Leicester have been relegated to League One, spent 5 years in Championship and won the PL.

Mark Schwarzer is the first player to win 2 consecutive PL titles without playing a single minute

Andy King is the first ever player to win: League One, Championship and Premier League with the same club.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 02, 2016, 11:55:59 PM
Three stats from Premier League Zone:

Since Arsenal last won the league, Leicester have been relegated to League One, spent 5 years in Championship and won the PL

And since 'Spurs last won the league?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on May 02, 2016, 11:57:18 PM
Got to love footballing rivalry.

94 mins Chelsea have a free kick and a chance for an injury time winner against one their biggest rivals.

They chip into the corner and run the clock.

Bosssssss. Leicester should give them the guard of honour last game.

So happy for Leicester. Dominant campaign.

So happy for ranieri, such a dignified honourable man, and he adapted perfectly to each stage of the run in.

What a day you leicester heads have to look forward to next saturday.

Dreams



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on May 03, 2016, 12:02:29 AM
Three stats from Premier League Zone:

Since Arsenal last won the league, Leicester have been relegated to League One, spent 5 years in Championship and won the PL

And since 'Spurs last won the league?

Thank goodness for that. I had 0-20 minutes.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on May 03, 2016, 12:45:19 AM
Just back from the KP with my son. Amazing atmosphere, brilliant to be part of.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 03, 2016, 01:16:09 AM
No word from the Tinker man himself yet?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on May 03, 2016, 02:09:22 AM
No word from the Tinker man himself yet?

He was in Italy and due to fly back tonight.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: baldock92 on May 03, 2016, 04:26:54 AM
The majority of Leicester fans would have been happy with 40 points and 17th place.

End up winning the league.

Enjoy the moment all you foxes out there!!


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Post by: tikay on May 03, 2016, 08:41:50 AM
No word from the Tinker man himself yet?

He was in Italy and due to fly back tonight.

He arrived back at East Midlands Airport in a private jet just before the game kicked off.

After the game, he 'phoned Guus Hiddink to say "well done" Chelsea. This would be shortly after Guus had picked himself up after being knocked to the ground in the disgraceful melee after the game. The various incidents at Stamford Bridge deserve their own thread, I'd rather not tarnish Leicester's thread at this most wonderful of moments.

Well done Leicester, best Premier League season ever thanks to them.


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Post by: DungBeetle on May 03, 2016, 09:31:50 AM
Well done to Leicester.   I only caught the last 15 minutes last night - what happened to make Spurs go bezerk?  There was a fight threatening to kick off every few tackles.  Goes without saying it was great entertainment but there could have been reds all over the place!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Graham C on May 03, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
I've been enjoying the Claudio clips they've been showing this morning on SSN, he's a great character.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on May 03, 2016, 10:30:47 AM
Congratulations Tighty and the other Leicester fans. Really pleased for you.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 10:38:47 AM
Leicester winning the league triggered an 86% increase in normal Twitter activity in the UK...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Che-OhTXEAAm4xx.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 10:39:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChfGQuKWMAA96h2.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 10:40:00 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChfBWcIW4AE9QC9.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 10:40:56 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Che6ZN2WMAAH3-c.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
sporting intelligence worked out that Man United have spent more on players in 2 years than Leicester in their 132 year history


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 10:42:48 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CheyPG4WUAA9g-k.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: superwomble on May 03, 2016, 10:44:30 AM
Amazing result, well done Leicester and congrats to Tighty and all Leicester fans, what a feeling it must be!


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Post by: PathFinder on May 03, 2016, 11:23:15 AM
sporting intelligence worked out that Man United have spent more on players in 2 years than Leicester in their 132 year history

Doesn't take much 'Sporting Intelligence' to work out once Man Utd have spent more money than Leicester within the last 2 years it will always be more than Leicester's entire history. Unless they were spending millions in the 19th Century


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 03, 2016, 11:36:49 AM

I sense a real "feel-good" factor across the nation, much celebration, & almost no bad blood. It's very reminiscent of England winning the World Cup in 1966, almost everyone seems delighted.

It won't last long, no, but it does drive interest for a while. It's rather nice to see such widespread positivity.

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DaveShoelace on May 03, 2016, 11:53:26 AM

I sense a real "feel-good" factor across the nation, much celebration, & almost no bad blood. It's very reminiscent of England winning the World Cup in 1966, almost everyone seems delighted.

It won't last long, no, but it does drive interest for a while. It's rather nice to see such widespread positivity.

 

A half decent showing by England in the Euros, and if we can come close to what we have done in the last two Olympics in Rio, and the national pastime of having a right good bleedin moan may be under threat.


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Post by: tikay on May 03, 2016, 12:52:07 PM
Matt Elliott, former Leicester City player of over 250 games, & Captain for a while, is the guest on Sky Poker TV on Sky Sports this evening at 10pm.

If you have any interesting questions, or snippets of info, fire away.

Obviously, I've researched the Guest thoroughly, & with no help from anyone at all.

Here's Matt in his younger days, after what appears to be a bloody confrontation.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 02:28:20 PM
this is a brilliant article

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/03/leicester-city-title-inside-story-premier-league-champions-claudio-ranieri


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 03, 2016, 02:52:20 PM
Town was mental last night from the videos sent by some mates. Rammed just now as the players dine in town.

Saturday is just gonna be one big mess


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 02:56:42 PM
Town was mental last night from the videos sent by some mates. Rammed just now as the players dine in town.

Saturday is just gonna be one big mess

I drove to the stadium around 10pm, or tried to

complete chaos. parked up a mile away, got there 11pm. left at 1am as it was just winding down.

think i am going to get somewhere central for saturday and stay over with my boys. going to be a (wonderful) nightmare to park, get around etc



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Post by: david3103 on May 03, 2016, 04:52:29 PM
Would Leicester fans not prefer to win the title at home?
Or maybe just sitting at home as Tottenham slip up?
You don't need to win it this weekend, why the rush?


 ;whistle; ;whistle; :cheers:



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 04, 2016, 10:42:45 AM
I think at the last count there are six books coming out at the end of the season, two by local journalists

then this is coming towards the end of the year

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChinhgDW0AAvKR0.jpg)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 04, 2016, 10:43:07 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChjbZ3jXIAMYPLF.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: marcro on May 04, 2016, 10:51:24 AM
I think what Leicester have shown is the value of a group of good players who synergistically work as a team, 1 + 1 = 3.

What they have done is fantastic and it has brought some much needed interest to the Premiere League which was starting to become too predictable and boring.

I hope to see them challenging again next season!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 04, 2016, 12:53:03 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chmy01qUUAEYbKM.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DaveShoelace on May 04, 2016, 01:42:00 PM
Do they lift the trophy before or after the Everton match? After surely?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on May 04, 2016, 01:45:03 PM
Do they lift the trophy before or after the Everton match? After surely?

After.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 05, 2016, 02:49:44 AM
http://www.sportingindex.com/spread-betting/football/domestic-premier-league/group_a.cb7d795c-c691-45dd-b8a2-0b6364afe443/premier-league-points-2016-17

Sportingindex open Leicester's expected points total for next season at 57-58.5.  Buying or selling?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 05, 2016, 03:49:29 AM
I just think it's so difficult to predict and obv depends on what happens in the summer with transfers.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2016, 09:21:39 AM
this is a must read on why so much of the injury stuff at lcfc isn't luck

real innovation in sports science, sports psychology and medical work that has provided a real competitive advantage this year

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36189778

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/182B3/production/_89559989_leicester_science.png)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2016, 09:23:49 AM
this will be a bit long form for many, but its a really good piece on Leicester multiculturalism, the football club within it, changing patterns of support etc

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/15454368/after-incredible-win-leicester-city-complicated-place


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
the race is on to be the first of the six upcoming books on the shelves

think this will be first

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChrS-vlVIAEuoqr.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 05, 2016, 02:37:01 PM
Opera star Andrea Bocelli to perform at King Power Stadium ahead of Saturday's match http://bit.ly/1ToGNjE

It is reported Claudio Ranieri arranged for the singer's visit six weeks ago in secret talks.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on May 05, 2016, 02:39:26 PM
He's no Sam Bailey though.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on May 06, 2016, 05:23:26 AM
What price should Leicester have been?

Thought this was a great balanced piece from Nick Goff (Corals head football trader): http://www.gemsandrhinestones.com


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Graham C on May 06, 2016, 10:26:15 AM
What price should Leicester have been?

Thought this was a great balanced piece from Nick Goff (Corals head football trader): http://www.gemsandrhinestones.com

Amusing that there was a greater shot of Elvis being found alive than Leicester winning the PL.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: ripple11 on May 06, 2016, 11:21:56 AM
What price should Leicester have been?

Thought this was a great balanced piece from Nick Goff (Corals head football trader): http://www.gemsandrhinestones.com

Amusing that there was a greater shot of Elvis being found alive than Leicester winning the PL.

I think you'll find Claudio has arranged for him to present the trophy.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 06, 2016, 11:23:51 AM
Mahrez has reportedly told Top that he's staying (source: multiple local journalists)

that would be a good start to the summer


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 06, 2016, 02:01:18 PM
Leicester City look at King Power stadium expansion - or may even build new ground

Leicester City are now seriously looking at expanding the King Power Stadium – or even building a completely new stadium.

Vice-chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha has admitted the club needs to think again to cope with the growing demand for tickets.

The 32,000-capacity ground has been sold out for every game this season and demand for tickets have been growing throughout their incredible Premier League title push.

Tickets for tomorrow's final home game of the season, against Everton, when captain Wes Morgan will lift the Premier League trophy, have been offered for sale on some website for as much as £8,000 per ticket.

Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-look-ground-expansion-build-new/story-29238169-detail/story.html


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DaveShoelace on May 06, 2016, 02:11:26 PM
Any top player who wants to leave Leicester next season is insane. They'll be defending champions who are still treated as underdogs and who have the love of almost everyone in the country, plus they will have most of Europe behind them in the Champions League because the story has gone global.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Skippy on May 06, 2016, 02:23:20 PM
Any top player who wants to leave Leicester next season is insane. They'll be defending champions who are still treated as underdogs and who have the love of almost everyone in the country, plus they will have most of Europe behind them in the Champions League because the story has gone global.

You can't put any of that in the bank though, can you?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on May 06, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
free pizza and beer tomorrow
must be nice


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on May 06, 2016, 02:38:05 PM
Any top player who wants to leave Leicester next season is insane. They'll be defending champions who are still treated as underdogs and who have the love of almost everyone in the country, plus they will have most of Europe behind them in the Champions League because the story has gone global.

You can't put any of that in the bank though, can you?

If as expected Leicester return to the pack next season finishing in say about 8th how will that effect the top players and how much they could get wages at a new club, if disaster hits and they find the extra fixtures in Europe put them in bottom half or worse will there great season be forgotten when it comes to those massive deals. The lure of the wage and the 'big named' team is huge. I do honestly think Leicester will do much better than the saints and holding onto talent though. ecl football will be a massive hook


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on May 06, 2016, 06:55:20 PM
Just got back from holiday so belated congratulations. There were a few unhappy Spurs fans in the bar in Menorca on Monday night!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 07, 2016, 11:10:17 AM
today's the day

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch12IxAXAAEJ4Qh.jpg)

I first watched Leicester in October 1973. I dont remember much about the game. Peter Shilton wore an all white goalkeeper's kit. Keith Weller was through 1 on 1 at the family stand end where i was sitting, underneath that odd executive box set up on top of the tiny stand

I was taken for matches for birthdays in the next couple of years, and as a special treat for a midweek home match against Leeds where we won 2-1, saw a brawl, sendings off and Frank Worthington taunting Hunter and Giles with his skill. Frank was my hero.

I was hooked.

The family then moved to London (i wasn't happy with it!) and it wasn't until i was leaving school and going to university that i began to go again, this time regularly

There has been some difficult times. Losing at home to Plymouth in front of 8,000 under Pleat always comes to mind at this point, but administration, league one and several other relegations have happened along the way
 
By the time I was working I was going to every match. Through Little/McGhee/O'Neill/Taylori didn't miss a match.

I did some daft stuff. I did a solo day trip from London to Newcastle for a Zenith Data Systems Cup group match, in a competition we were already out of. We lost 4-0 to Newcastle's reserve team and I was the only Leicester fan in the ground

I did pre-season tours to Norway, I met the mother of my children on the away end at Kenilworth road and my two boys now 20 and 18 will be with me later

Never ever did i think we would win the top league.

I'm going to enjoy every minute of the occasion today. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2016, 11:30:30 AM


Enjoy it Tighty, it's real once in a lifetime fairy tale stuff.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2016, 11:31:54 AM


On a sadder note, I read yesterday that Frank Worthington has Parkinson's Disease.

If true, very sad. Hard to imagine anything worse, & it is something I fret about every single day. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: MereNovice on May 07, 2016, 11:32:52 AM


On a sadder note, I read yesterday that Frank Worthington has Parkinson's Disease.

If true, very sad. Hard to imagine anything worse, & it is something I fret about every single day. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36234373


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on May 07, 2016, 11:43:11 AM
Drink it all in and enjoy every minute.

Without wanting to be controversial, but for me I simply can't fathom that the birth of any child or marriage to any woman will ever top that fateful day against QPR in 2012.

I'm gonna die old and lonely :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2016, 11:52:12 AM


On a sadder note, I read yesterday that Frank Worthington has Parkinson's Disease.

If true, very sad. Hard to imagine anything worse, & it is something I fret about every single day. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36234373

Well that's an odd thing, is it not?

Not sure who to believe now.

Fingers crossed he remains of sound mind.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2016, 12:38:55 PM

Don't know if it is true, but this suggests Leicester City's Chairman won £2.5 million at the Genting Casino Leicester on Wednesday evening.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3578235/Leicester-City-chairman-wins-2-5million-casino-just-days-team-win-Premier-League.html


The article also suggests that two of his sons go by the nicks of "Tip" & "Top".


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on May 07, 2016, 06:20:37 PM
Seems a good atmosphere tighty, enjoy,watch it and Drink it in.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on May 07, 2016, 11:24:22 PM
Touching read Tighty mate - a true fan

I am very pissed - goodnight xx


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on May 08, 2016, 06:09:30 AM
today's the day

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch12IxAXAAEJ4Qh.jpg)

I first watched Leicester in October 1973. I dont remember much about the game. Peter Shilton wore an all white goalkeeper's kit. Keith Weller was through 1 on 1 at the family stand end where i was sitting, underneath that odd executive box set up on top of the tiny stand

I was taken for matches for birthdays in the next couple of years, and as a special treat for a midweek home match against Leeds where we won 2-1, saw a brawl, sendings off and Frank Worthington taunting Hunter and Giles with his skill. Frank was my hero.

I was hooked.

The family then moved to London (i wasn't happy with it!) and it wasn't until i was leaving school and going to university that i began to go again, this time regularly

There has been some difficult times. Losing at home to Plymouth in front of 8,000 under Pleat always comes to mind at this point, but administration, league one and several other relegations have happened along the way
 
By the time I was working I was going to every match. Through Little/McGhee/O'Neill/Taylori didn't miss a match.

I did some daft stuff. I did a solo day trip from London to Newcastle for a Zenith Data Systems Cup group match, in a competition we were already out of. We lost 4-0 to Newcastle's reserve team and I was the only Leicester fan in the ground

I did pre-season tours to Norway, I met the mother of my children on the away end at Kenilworth road and my two boys now 20 and 18 will be with me later

Never ever did i think we would win the top league.

I'm going to enjoy every minute of the occasion today. 

Great post Tighty. I love the back story and congrats etc.

I watched it all yesterday and thought it was brilliantly staged and thoroughly enjoyable.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 08, 2016, 12:03:59 PM
what a day that was

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch3q9eWWkAMBTgk.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch4Dq9QVEAA07Oe.png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch4L-HEWsAEkVyp.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch4dA1dWMAA7jam.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch4pYr3XEAUEwC2.jpg)


this was amazing too. what a voice

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aapaYAbQnig


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 08, 2016, 12:06:34 PM
Leicester will be 12th or 13th biggest earners next season. In the world. Richer than Milan, bigger than the Yankees

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-3578944/Leicester-richer-AC-Milan-bigger-New-York-Yankees-examine-six-things-went-right-recently-crowned-Premier-League-winners.html


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 08, 2016, 12:07:02 PM
Asst manager Steve Walsh: “We play Drinkwater in the middle, and Kante either side."


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on May 08, 2016, 12:16:31 PM
How's the hangovers?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 08, 2016, 12:17:58 PM
How's the hangovers?

I don't drink, really

When i found myself conga-ing around the Clock Tower Leicester at 2am in between a Napoli and a Roma fan realised things had gone badly wrong. or right


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on May 08, 2016, 12:57:09 PM
How's the hangovers?

I don't drink, really

When i found myself conga-ing around the Clock Tower Leicester at 2am in between a Napoli and a Roma fan realised things had gone badly wrong. or right


Sounds like they went very right to me.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on May 08, 2016, 02:10:40 PM
How's the hangovers?

Please don't type so loud!!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2016, 02:15:30 PM
Very enjoyable to watch yesterday from start to finish.  Were Leicester diff gravy or are Everton just really really poor?  I couldn't make my mind up.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 08, 2016, 02:26:30 PM
Very enjoyable to watch yesterday from start to finish.  Were Leicester diff gravy or are Everton just really really poor?  I couldn't make my mind up.

Bit of both

6 or 7-1 wouldn't have flattered us. 33 shots on goal. missed lots of gilt edged chances amongst them

Everton were terrible and presumably can't wait to be elsewhere or playing under a different mananger at Everton but the intensity we showed after a week on the piss was something else


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Woodsey on May 08, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
 ;D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-36241344


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 08, 2016, 03:44:55 PM
you wouldn't believe what it has done for the city.

way way way more ethnic minorities involved in the celebrations in the week and last night than you would have associated with LCFC even a few years ago when it was a real struggle for the club to appeal to the wider community

also there were people at the game yesterday who had travelled over from italy solely to support Ranieri, without match tickets but just wanted to be there

some of the pics from today's coverage

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/4542c9ecd4f2796e105d8c96874398ed67824ff5/0_0_5500_3661/master/5500.jpg?w=880&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=9300a1f70c0cc81f1207abb71564261a)

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/5648f774f70d4e992cad87cee54d2cb28f574ab6/0_0_5500_3661/master/5500.jpg?w=880&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=0e86a72d389b920038bc2a8c6f5f7885)

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/2adccd123c23cb65f293cb28d800fa3801ce8ecc/0_0_5500_3661/master/5500.jpg?w=880&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=45d56c437b03a8ac41adbca888dd74e0)

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/e1481c822363bd6fe07347122e6a949fb7b69d2d/0_0_5500_3661/master/5500.jpg?w=880&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=6cda7dd00246ea278e5a22fcdb740dbd)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
Leicester run good over.  Riders lost in the play off final at the o2 in the British Basketball.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on May 09, 2016, 01:34:06 AM
I saw a ~4 year old kid in a Leicester jersey here in Ireland today. In a land of top 4 (plus Pool) supporters, that was a surprise to me but perhaps shouldn't have been.
The long term financial effects of gaining life long Leicester brand supporters worldwide could be huge.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 09, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
outside the san siro before inter v empoli yesterday

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch9DdOkXAAAcqmw.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch9DdUGWMAIYeZq.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 09, 2016, 10:17:12 AM
Shakespeare and Walsh have signed new 3 year contracts

very significant news, helps keep things together

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch91vjwWMAE9LkY.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 09, 2016, 03:30:13 PM
this could be really interesting for him

press launch today

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiBK6NUXIAERKTe.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: teddybloat on May 09, 2016, 07:41:29 PM
Thoughts on the owners hogging the trophy for the lap of honour?

Culture clash, egomania, justified or other?

Didn't sit right for me as a neutral.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 09, 2016, 08:10:16 PM
Was fine with it. Without their money we'd be two divisions lower .On the second third and fourth times round the players had it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 10, 2016, 09:55:13 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiB74H_W0AElLWr.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 10, 2016, 09:56:03 AM
on sunday, lcfc's goal difference, life time, went positive for the first time since october 1977

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiB-1GlVEAEzGI_.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 11, 2016, 10:41:05 AM
This is a bit cheesy, but if you turn the sound down, some of the photos are really quite evocative for long term Leicester City supporters like Tighty & Argue, looking back at the Club in the 90/91 season.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtoiF5QBIbA


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 11, 2016, 11:44:53 AM
http://www.lcfc.com/news/article/global-foxes-jari-rantanen-2718681.aspx

Great Video.  Shame it didn't go a couple of years further back to the dark dark days of this fella and Newell up front in front of 8000 fans most weeks.  They don't make centre forwards like this guy anymore.  When he signed the club shop didn't have any shorts that fit him and they had to get some specially made.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 14, 2016, 03:40:30 AM
http://oddsmodel.com/the-extraordinary-numbers-behind-leicesters-unlikely-triumph/

Another excellent read on the Leicester miracle.  Can't have it that Barca would be a 1/4 shot on a neutral ground to Leics over 90 minutes like this writer thinks but the article is interesting all the same.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on May 14, 2016, 09:49:35 AM
http://oddsmodel.com/the-extraordinary-numbers-behind-leicesters-unlikely-triumph/

Another excellent read on the Leicester miracle.  Can't have it that Barca would be a 1/4 shot on a neutral ground to Leics over 90 minutes like this writer thinks but the article is interesting all the same.

Do you agree with the statement that Liverpool were double the price they should have been, then?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 14, 2016, 09:55:28 AM
i enjoyed the article

a perfect storm really of big four all on down years, taking a lot a chances, no injuries etc etc

i hadn't really considered that 5000-1 was a function of people not odds compiling accurately any more

i repeat though that there is more skill than generally recognised in keeping these players fit all season, plus Ranieri has been superb tactically. the switch he made after the hoem defeat to Arsenal to change both full backs (neither appeared in the team at left or right back for the remainder of the season) was a masterstroke.

From that point on we were solid but still a fearsome prospect in transition/on the counter

winning gmaes by a single goal seems to be decried. it wasn't when United won a title that way!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on May 14, 2016, 10:12:46 AM
http://oddsmodel.com/the-extraordinary-numbers-behind-leicesters-unlikely-triumph/

Another excellent read on the Leicester miracle.  Can't have it that Barca would be a 1/4 shot on a neutral ground to Leics over 90 minutes like this writer thinks but the article is interesting all the same.

I think it is a far better article than the one posted from the odds compiler (at coral?) previously.  He seemed to be back fitting to prove he was right all along.  If you looked at the previous one, teams which he thought were better than Leicester were given 25000/1 chances and I think it was West Brom that had no chance at all. 

I have said before, it is times like this that you should rethink your model and not take tine to defend it.   


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 14, 2016, 10:25:35 AM
zonal marking editor on the lcfc tactics

https://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2016/may/13/leicester-city-and-the-tactics-of-champions?CMP=share_btn_tw


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on May 14, 2016, 05:50:09 PM
this could be really interesting for him

press launch today

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiBK6NUXIAERKTe.jpg)

When I first read that advert I thought Vardy was publicising the fact he was having a vasectomy!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 15, 2016, 04:22:43 PM
emotional stuff

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CigLYQpWUAAcXwb.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 15, 2016, 05:44:19 PM
Three defeats all season

won the league by ten points

sensational equaliser today by Drinkwater

fantastic attitude shown today, Schmeichel was brilliant



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 15, 2016, 06:06:55 PM
Amazing season.  Congrats. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: muckthenuts on May 15, 2016, 06:21:18 PM
Three defeats all season

won the league by ten points

sensational equaliser today by Drinkwater

fantastic attitude shown today, Schmeichel was brilliant



Even as an Arsenal fan who wasn't always happy with how things went this season ultimately it's impossible to say that we could have deserved it more than you. Big congratulations, soak it up


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DropTheHammer on May 15, 2016, 09:39:05 PM
gg Leicester, wp! Hope they keep all their players and add a fair few decent players to cope with all those extra games.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on May 16, 2016, 12:41:02 AM
Amazing season.  Congrats. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2016, 10:14:03 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CihZRqdWUAEMZNx.png)

the others? Terry and Pallister


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2016, 10:14:46 AM
Only 3 teams in PL history have lost fewer games than Leicester did in 2015-16 (AFC 0 in 03-04, CFC 1 in 04-05, LFC 2 in 08-09).

10 - Only four previous PL champions have won the title by a greater margin of points than Leicester this season


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 16, 2016, 12:23:51 PM
Only 3 teams in PL history have lost fewer games than Leicester did in 2015-16 (AFC 0 in 03-04, CFC 1 in 04-05, LFC 2 in 08-09).

10 - Only four previous PL champions have won the title by a greater margin of points than Leicester this season

Variance.

Oh and Spurs were the better team ;)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: superwomble on May 16, 2016, 05:14:32 PM
While I think it's great what Leicester have done, I really hate the 'in Premier League' history stats.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 16, 2016, 05:15:36 PM
While I think it's great what Leicester have done, I really hate the 'in Premier League' history stats.

Same.  Why are the pre EPL stats totally irrelevant when history is discussed?  Not much has changed apart from going from 42 to 38 games.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2016, 05:20:30 PM
While I think it's great what Leicester have done, I really hate the 'in Premier League' history stats.

Same.  Why are the pre EPL stats totally irrelevant when history is discussed?  Not much has changed apart from going from 42 to 38 games.

they aren't irrelevant

its just what Opta, from where those stats were gleaned, quoted


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: MereNovice on May 16, 2016, 05:28:33 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36301392

What will Leicester's magnificent achievement do for general managerial job security in the next few seasons?

Will the pressure increase on every manager to "do a Leicester"? Will the unrealistic targets of owners and fans just spiral out of control?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on May 16, 2016, 07:11:50 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36301392

What will Leicester's magnificent achievement do for general managerial job security in the next few seasons?

Will the pressure increase on every manager to "do a Leicester"? Will the unrealistic targets of owners and fans just spiral out of control?

Well the LMA chairman is going to say that, it's his job to protect his members. I don't think Leicester's achievement is going to make much difference to job security. I don't think smaller clubs think they'll do the same. We all know it's a one off.
I think the issue is more with the bigger clubs. If a smaller club comes up and takes a piece one of 'their' spots, the pressure is on that manager. If Man Utd had secured top 4, I think Van Gaal stays. Now I don't think so.

Tighty, what are your, and Leicester fans generally, realistic expectations for next season? I know it's early days and I fully expect this transfer window to be the most insane in history but top half? Top 8? Top 6? Top 4 and challenging again???  :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2016, 07:18:07 PM
bit early to tell, but if you gave me this squad intact plus additions to cope with the extra games i'd like to say 5th-8th and challenging for europa league



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2016, 07:35:37 PM
its crazy out there

huge huge crowds

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CimGA-YWEAEjo-c.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2016, 08:48:44 PM
estimated 100k+ in victoria park now, 250k estimated on the parade itself

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CimQdQKWkAA-4j6.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bagel on May 16, 2016, 08:49:14 PM
ranieri  Ahrt

so chuffed for him.  

been watching the parade , looks incredible.





Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bagel on May 16, 2016, 08:50:22 PM
odds on gotta be kasabian


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2016, 09:40:51 PM
Official figures estimate there were 240,000 people on the streets and in Victoria Park today.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on May 17, 2016, 01:30:52 AM
odds on gotta be kasabian

I doubt even they can spoil the moment


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on May 17, 2016, 04:57:47 PM
Wow...where are they all gonna sit at the KP next season


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 17, 2016, 05:04:53 PM
Wow...where are they all gonna sit at the KP next season

serious thought being given to a new stadium out by M1 J21

At the minimum a new tier on two sides of the existing stadium

240,000 there yesterday!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on May 17, 2016, 05:10:40 PM
Would be great for football to see another 50,000 plus attendance do you think they can reach it?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on May 17, 2016, 05:12:58 PM
If Leicester fade next year you'll see a lot of people jumping off that wagon


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 17, 2016, 05:15:33 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 17, 2016, 05:21:38 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category

What was (were?) the average attendance in the 14/15 season?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 17, 2016, 05:26:59 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category

What was (were?) the average attendance in the 14/15 season?

Its been sold out for the two seasons in the Premier League. Demand for seats went barmy after christmas this year, but of course how transitory this is is the big question

25-26k in the championship until the latter half of the promotion season

a classic "go for it or not question"



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 17, 2016, 05:30:46 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category

How far out of Leics do you have to go to get to 830k pop?  Harborough?  Loughborough?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 17, 2016, 05:31:20 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category

What was (were?) the average attendance in the 14/15 season?

Its been sold out for the two seasons in the Premier League. Demand for seats went barmy after christmas this year, but of course how transitory this is is the big question

25-26k in the championship until the latter half of the promotion season

a classic "go for it or not question"



Well if it was sold out at 32,000 for both the last 2 Seasons, if we add in some natural growth from the success bounce, then I guess 40,000 to 45,000 sounds attainable & realistic.

I suppose part of the dilemma is these things - Planning Applications, build period etc, have such lengthy gestation, we are talking 4 to 5 years minimum, are we not? Lot can happen in 5 years.

That area around J21 would be perfect, but my word, the land there is "prime" & seriously pricey.  

That's a seriously awkward dilemma for the Club, but really, if they want to be another giant, like, say, Arsenal, that's what they'll have to do.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 17, 2016, 05:33:13 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category

How far out of Leics do you have to go to get to 830k pop?  Harborough?  Loughborough?

Leicester metropolitan area, 2011 census

330,000 in central leicester alone

"City and unitary authority area    337,653 (Ranked 16th)
 •  • Urban    509,000
 • Metro    836,484"


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 17, 2016, 05:35:29 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category

What was (were?) the average attendance in the 14/15 season?

Its been sold out for the two seasons in the Premier League. Demand for seats went barmy after christmas this year, but of course how transitory this is is the big question

25-26k in the championship until the latter half of the promotion season

a classic "go for it or not question"



Well if it was sold out at 32,000 for both the last 2 Seasons, if we add in some natural growth from the success bounce, then I guess 40,000 to 45,000 sounds attainable & realistic.

I suppose part of the dilemma is these things - Planning Applications, build period etc, have such lengthy gestation, we are talking 4 to 5 years minimum, are we not? Lot can happen in 5 years.

That area around J21 would be perfect, but my word, the land there is "prime" & seriously pricey.   

That's a seriously awkward dilemma for the Club, but really, if they want to be another giant, like, say, Arsenal, that's what they'll have to do.

i believe, without knowing the details, that the land opposite the everards brewery up from fosse park has some sort of zoning concessions to attract firms to the area to build etc

but yes, i suppose they can plan and cost next season and make a decision when things look a bit clearer


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on May 17, 2016, 05:39:20 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category

How far out of Leics do you have to go to get to 830k pop?  Harborough?  Loughborough?

Leicester metropolitan area, 2011 census

330,000 in central leicester alone

"City and unitary authority area    337,653 (Ranked 16th)
 •  • Urban    509,000
 • Metro    836,484"

Where are the boundaries of that in reality then to get to 830k?  Great glen?  Inside or outside?  Oadby? Wigston?  Kibworth? Enderby?  Never understand how far out this type of population number covers in any city.

Still can't believe 240k turned out last night.  Amazing.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on May 17, 2016, 05:40:01 PM
the ground holds 32,000

there is a waiting list of 10,000 for season tickets

of course if we fall away then so does that waiting list.

thats the judgement they will have to make as a club, how sustainable is it to be near the top reaches? what happens if the worst case we are relegated?

as a one club city of 830,000 population (metropolitan area only, not leicestershire as a whole) with the recent success leading to support from further afield too then its going to be tempting to try to shift into the "big club" category

What was (were?) the average attendance in the 14/15 season?

Its been sold out for the two seasons in the Premier League. Demand for seats went barmy after christmas this year, but of course how transitory this is is the big question

25-26k in the championship until the latter half of the promotion season

a classic "go for it or not question"



Well if it was sold out at 32,000 for both the last 2 Seasons, if we add in some natural growth from the success bounce, then I guess 40,000 to 45,000 sounds attainable & realistic.

I suppose part of the dilemma is these things - Planning Applications, build period etc, have such lengthy gestation, we are talking 4 to 5 years minimum, are we not? Lot can happen in 5 years.

That area around J21 would be perfect, but my word, the land there is "prime" & seriously pricey.   

That's a seriously awkward dilemma for the Club, but really, if they want to be another giant, like, say, Arsenal, that's what they'll have to do.

i believe, without knowing the details, that the land opposite the everards brewery up from fosse park has some sort of zoning concessions to attract firms to the area to build etc

but yes, i suppose they can plan and cost next season and make a decision when things look a bit clearer

That could cut 2 years off the process.

I guess the land the existing stadium sits on must be worth a few bob, too?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 17, 2016, 05:42:12 PM
yes and the current stadium is owned by the club and paid for (when the thais came in). opposite the river soar from the stadium are exec flats, no reason why the current stadium land couldnt be used for the same if it came to it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on May 17, 2016, 05:48:38 PM
Think Leicestershire as a whole is 940,000ish. Huge catchment though, there was hundreds queuing at Harborough station yesterday to get to the parade. My lads team played against teams from Harborough/Ibstock/Oakham and every team had 7 or 8 season ticket holders.

And if the waitlist is 10,000 there will probably be 10,000 more like me and my son who are not on the list but would buy one if they were available.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on May 17, 2016, 06:43:38 PM
I've heard a few rumours that the land opposite Everards is going to be an Ikea.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on May 17, 2016, 07:58:06 PM
I've heard a few rumours that the land opposite Everards is going to be an Ikea.
Sick of seeing the horses on that land struggling to stand on a dry surface. Can't see it being there tbh, Stay put and rebuild onto what you have.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on May 17, 2016, 08:15:25 PM
I've heard a few rumours that the land opposite Everards is going to be an Ikea.
Sick of seeing the horses on that land struggling to stand on a dry surface. Can't see it being there tbh, Stay put and rebuild onto what you have.

Or wait for Leicester to host the Commonwealth Games and get a good deal on the stadium...



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on May 17, 2016, 08:47:13 PM
I've heard a few rumours that the land opposite Everards is going to be an Ikea.
Sick of seeing the horses on that land struggling to stand on a dry surface. Can't see it being there tbh, Stay put and rebuild onto what you have.

Or wait for Leicester to host the Commonwealth Games and get a good deal on the stadium...



:)

Enjoy the Europa League.

Again.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on May 17, 2016, 10:20:27 PM
bit early to tell, but if you gave me this squad intact plus additions to cope with the extra games i'd like to say 5th-8th and challenging for europa league



Would you take top 6 and a Cup Final mate?

 ;D ;D

I went yesterday and stood in Victoria Park from about 4pm. Was just amazing and the atmosphere was as good as most rock concerts. The compère was a bit meh and totally lost the crowd on several ocassions. The advice on trains was totally useless "if you're heading north, entrance xxxx, if you're heading south, entrance xxxx". And us heading east? The station crew were all former Ryanair employees!

Apart from that a truly, truly fantastic ocassion and roll on transfer deadline day to see what the vultures leave us with.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 19, 2016, 03:16:37 PM
1 million fans on the parade through Bangkok

times have changed

"“There’s a Thai owner and a Japanese player. So this is Asia’s team,” said Lin Nu, a 50-year-old hospital employee who came with several friends from Leicester City’s Thai fan site. "

going to be a massive source of revenue for the club if that is anything like right

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/19/leicester-citys-premier-league-title-celebrations-hit-streets-of-bangkok?CMP=share_btn_tw

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci0asGmXIAANChV.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci0n0aXWUAEKQwM.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 19, 2016, 03:17:42 PM
planning trips ahead...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CixaWMnWgAAA9u6.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on May 19, 2016, 03:19:26 PM
Have you seen Leicester abroad before Tighty?

Such immense trips, honestly the 90 minutes of football usually gets in the way! Very fond memories of following City and Europe and beyond, win lose or draw :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on May 19, 2016, 03:21:18 PM
Have you seen Leicester abroad before Tighty?

Such immense trips, honestly the 90 minutes of football usually gets in the way! Very fond memories of following City and Europe and beyond, win lose or draw :)

Atletico Madrid in 2001. Fantastic night

the red star belgrade game was in vienna and i couldnt do

all being well will do at least one away group game. looking at pot 2 we can't go wrong really, huge clubs great stadia, reasonable chances of getting there


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on May 19, 2016, 03:45:04 PM
Have you seen Leicester abroad before Tighty?

Such immense trips, honestly the 90 minutes of football usually gets in the way! Very fond memories of following City and Europe and beyond, win lose or draw :)

Atletico Madrid in 2001. Fantastic night

the red star belgrade game was in vienna and i couldnt do

all being well will do at least one away group game. looking at pot 2 we can't go wrong really, huge clubs great stadia, reasonable chances of getting there

Mind your arse at Napoli.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on June 03, 2016, 08:35:13 PM
Any truth in the rumour arsenal triggered vardys clause at 22m? Any chance he goes?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on June 03, 2016, 09:08:35 PM
The story was broken by a Guardian journo - Stuart James - in his own name on Twitter. Sky then shamelessly jumped on it as 'Sky sources'. Presume if he's broken it in his own name it'd be from a trusted source and fact checked.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on June 03, 2016, 09:21:13 PM
I'd hate to see him go but if it's a chance of a big contract good luck to him. If it's £22milly plus as the "sources" suggest that wouldn't be the worst bit of business for Leicester either. Personally I think he'll stay under the next window.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on June 03, 2016, 09:23:58 PM
It's a good source and a decent journalist. He gave his word to ranieri he'd stay 10 days ago but we'll see if that survives 120k a week offers. Very  un-arsenal like, a last knockings of Wenger type move. Chelsea are in for kante too


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on June 04, 2016, 02:33:03 PM
How does Vardy fit into the Arsenal side? Can't see them suddenly becoming a sit back and hit them on the break team. Nor can I see Vardy as part of the sixteen passes on the edge of the box style.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on June 07, 2016, 09:50:03 AM
completed yesterday

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkR-Z8ZXEAAKCiV.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 07, 2016, 10:12:45 AM
completed yesterday

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkR-Z8ZXEAAKCiV.jpg)

MBN having the whole city supporting them so that will last. Big rivalries are great but this kind of thing can't happen then.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on June 09, 2016, 10:34:26 AM
stay or go? Vardy's tough call shows draw of the old elite is no sure thing

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/08/stay-or-go-vardys-tough-call-shows-the-draw-of-the-old-elite-is/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: WotRTheChances on June 21, 2016, 08:28:56 AM
What do people think about the rumours going around that Leicester are looking at Troy Deeney? The numbers i've heard mentioned sound ludicrous... 20M then 25M, now 30M?! Surely they wouldn't pay that for him?!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on June 21, 2016, 08:40:28 AM
Prices are inflated. 25m today is like 8-10 a few years ago


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: WotRTheChances on June 21, 2016, 09:05:57 AM
Prices are inflated. 25m today is like 8-10 a few years ago

There's been <20 people sold for 24m+ in the last 2 years, all of which are top international players (except lolSterling). Deeney was OK last year, but didn't exactly tear the league up. He's not exactly young either. Seems like crazy money to me


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on June 21, 2016, 09:31:27 AM
Market forces. All PL teams have money to burn which means they also don't have to sell meaning prices are gonna take a major hike this year


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on June 21, 2016, 10:23:45 AM
What do people think about the rumours going around that Leicester are looking at Troy Deeney? The numbers i've heard mentioned sound ludicrous... 20M then 25M, now 30M?! Surely they wouldn't pay that for him?!

we've wanted him for 2 years. had £10m turned down last summer

now we've won £100m last year, and the new TV deal means that even if we finish bottom next year there is £100m coming from the new tv deal

this is the same for all PL clubs, so none of them at all are under any pressure to sell anybody so as long as the guy has no release clause and isn't about to have a contract expiry they can name their price, adn are doing so

which is why most of our signings will be out of la liga, bundesliga, serie A, ligue one etc etc

obviously he's not worth £25m+ in a vacuum but its the marketplace we are in

as for Deeney himself he's clearly a leader, a 10+ goals a season man who created a lot of ighalo's and would play behind a vardy or whoever in our line up. I can see the attraction, will just have to ignore the "value" or lack of it if we really pay that much

either all of this or Deeney's agent is playing an absolute blinder!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on June 21, 2016, 11:06:55 AM
What do people think about the rumours going around that Leicester are looking at Troy Deeney? The numbers i've heard mentioned sound ludicrous... 20M then 25M, now 30M?! Surely they wouldn't pay that for him?!

we've wanted him for 2 years. had £10m turned down last summer

now we've won £100m last year, and the new TV deal means that even if we finish bottom next year there is £100m coming from the new tv deal

this is the same for all PL clubs, so none of them at all are under any pressure to sell anybody so as long as the guy has no release clause and isn't about to have a contract expiry they can name their price, adn are doing so

which is why most of our signings will be out of la liga, bundesliga, serie A, ligue one etc etc

obviously he's not worth £25m+ in a vacuum but its the marketplace we are in

as for Deeney himself he's clearly a leader, a 10+ goals a season man who created a lot of ighalo's and would play behind a vardy or whoever in our line up. I can see the attraction, will just have to ignore the "value" or lack of it if we really pay that much

either all of this or Deeney's agent is playing an absolute blinder!

I love Troy but even I think we'd be bonkers to turn down 30 million.  Wouldn't have taken 20 though.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on June 21, 2016, 11:13:31 AM
how will teams approach it next year? just sit back and don't give Vardy space and man mark Mahrez? Vardy seems very ineffectual without space to run into.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on June 21, 2016, 11:26:27 AM
how will teams approach it next year? just sit back and don't give Vardy space and man mark Mahrez? Vardy seems very ineffectual without space to run into.

teams began to sit back from about february onwards. Vardy went dry for a while, and we were having to nick games and score set piece goals. By the end of the season though we had adjusted and Vardy was scoring again. No worries there, if he remains with us. Whole team sets up to feed him chances whether on the break or not.

Part of it is that the defensive midfield and back four were completely impenetrable so we were rarely behind in games so teams had to come onto us if they wanted to get something out of games. So it starts from there. Losing Kante would be a loss to that style and affect Vardy's chances.
 
Only one team double marked Mahrez, Liverpool at Anfield. No team man marked him. I can't think of any English team that has man marked anyone in any game over the last couple of seasons. Think Ranieri is very shrewd, if teams do it he'll adjust again. Mahrez might go anyway. Demaria Gray was bought with that in mind and is going to be very good   


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on June 23, 2016, 11:06:37 AM
just released

"Leicester City have today (Thursday) agreed with the representatives of Jamie Vardy to extend the England international’s contract with the Premier League champions for a further four years.

Both parties hope that this announcement will end recent speculation regarding Jamie’s future and confirm his long term commitment to Leicester City Football Club.

Jamie will continue to focus all of his efforts on trying to achieve success with the England team at the European Championships in France.

There will be no further comment from either the Club or the player on this matter until the conclusion of the tournament."

Read more at http://www.lcfc.com/news/article/2016-17/leicester-city-statement-jamie-vardy-3150830.aspx#opiAXPbVfLURxWrA.99

allegedly £110,000 a week, turning down Arsenal who offered more.

A sign of intent that we intend to be around the top for a while

meanwhile there are £85m of transfer bids out there from us this summer......


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on June 23, 2016, 12:17:59 PM
Only 4 months since he signed the last contract, must be close to a PL record?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on June 23, 2016, 12:21:57 PM
Vardy to get near last seasons total?

Top Prem Scorer 16/1

20+ Prem goals 6/1

15+ Yes: Evs, No: 8/11

bet365

that 6/1 looks v interesting to me, bit of a punt on mahrez staying, maybe reflects some rotation likely, usual injury risks, but we should have a much deeper squad to supply him chances



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Sportshead on June 23, 2016, 01:34:25 PM
Good news for Leicester this

So NOT all footballers take the more money option as claimed before
Good for him


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on June 23, 2016, 05:15:56 PM
So pleased to hear this today. Hopefully now his show of commitment will be followed by the others who I've felt were waiting not wanting to be the one who is seen as breaking up the squad.

Really looking forward to the new season!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 01, 2016, 01:44:38 PM
as news comes that Chelsea lead Arsenal, Man U and Juve in the race...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmRqxSkWcAAqi1u.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 03, 2016, 10:58:31 AM
DONE DEAL: Nampalys Mendy to join Leicester City from Nice for an undisclosed fee on a four-year contract.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmbY3iMWAAAeENk.jpg)

If Kanté leaves, and Mendy's the only midfield signing, then lcfc are changing their tactics

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmCzpTQWkAAcGVG.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 03, 2016, 12:55:55 PM
I have got a signed picture postcard of Christian Fuchs holding the EPL trophy.  My brother lives in New York and his wife teaches at Fuch's kids school in Manhattan.  He came into the school and met all the kids after the season ended.  If anyone wants the signed card for themselves or their kids PM me and i will post it to you.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 03, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
I have got a signed picture postcard of Christian Fuchs holding the EPL trophy.  My brother lives in New York and his wife teaches at Fuch's kids school in Manhattan.  He came into the school and met all the kids after the season ended.  If anyone wants the signed card for themselves or their kids PM me and i will post it to you.

Sounds like Billy big bollocks, winning the title then going into a school and signing a few postcards. Don't need personalities like his around the dressing room.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on July 03, 2016, 05:44:43 PM
I have got a signed picture postcard of Christian Fuchs holding the EPL trophy.  My brother lives in New York and his wife teaches at Fuch's kids school in Manhattan.  He came into the school and met all the kids after the season ended.  If anyone wants the signed card for themselves or their kids PM me and i will post it to you.

Sounds like Billy big bollocks, winning the title then going into a school and signing a few postcards. Don't need personalities like his around the dressing room.


I do hope you missed off the smiley to indicate this was a joke.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: JohnCharver on July 03, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
I have got a signed picture postcard of Christian Fuchs holding the EPL trophy.  My brother lives in New York and his wife teaches at Fuch's kids school in Manhattan.  He came into the school and met all the kids after the season ended.  If anyone wants the signed card for themselves or their kids PM me and i will post it to you.

Who would send their kids there?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 03, 2016, 05:52:51 PM
I have got a signed picture postcard of Christian Fuchs holding the EPL trophy.  My brother lives in New York and his wife teaches at Fuch's kids school in Manhattan.  He came into the school and met all the kids after the season ended.  If anyone wants the signed card for themselves or their kids PM me and i will post it to you.

Sounds like Billy big bollocks, winning the title then going into a school and signing a few postcards. Don't need personalities like his around the dressing room.


I do hope you missed off the smiley to indicate this was a joke.

Thought it was obvious enough without the need for emoticons.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 05, 2016, 09:23:25 AM
 How Mendy and Musa fit the magic of LCFC. - http://sqwk.at/MendyMusa

if we do get Msa tomorrow thats a really exciting one. quick as heck, would really give us another weapon on the counter.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmhmXqAWgAAAg07.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 05, 2016, 09:24:01 AM

Have Leicester City found another gem in Ahmed Musa?

http://bbc.in/29HPrMG

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmiTi8BWYAAC9IE.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 05, 2016, 09:24:52 AM
Pinnacle article. skill or luck?

http://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-articles/betting-strategy/leicester-city-luck-or-skill?dvc=d&ito=twitter&aup=True


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 05, 2016, 09:25:30 AM
WhoScored.com ‏@WhoScored

Nampalys Mendy: Only Maxime Gonalons (522) has won possession in the middle third more times in the last 3 Ligue 1 seasons than Mendy (477)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on July 07, 2016, 10:09:58 PM
Thoughts on Sissoko being in ahead of Kante?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2016, 11:08:17 PM
I thought it was a surprise and until the penalty thought they Might regret it. That said sissoko played well, the team won and now he has a nice selection problem for the final.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2016, 09:18:53 AM
pace pace pace

love it if he settles in england

Leicester set to complete £18m signing of CSKA Moscow striker Ahmed Musa http://dailym.ai/29kDDTj


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on July 08, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
pace pace pace

love it if he settles in england

Leicester set to complete £18m signing of CSKA Moscow striker Ahmed Musa http://dailym.ai/29kDDTj

I saw an "insider" comment about Leicester going after Luan earlier this week but nothing since. Spoof??

He looks the biz tbh


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2016, 07:37:56 PM
We definitely want to upgrade the okazaki position, someone to play behind vardy. Have heard luan and milik. Shaping up promisingly anyway, bundles of pace up front


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on July 08, 2016, 07:40:40 PM
We definitely want to upgrade the okazaki position, someone to play behind vardy. Have heard luan and milik. Shaping up promisingly anyway, bundles of pace up front

Getting very moist mate


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2016, 09:20:36 AM
more to come, maybe Kante to go

looks exciting though

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm23Vy4WcAEiUSZ.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm2-eL8WgAAzqGy.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on July 09, 2016, 12:59:34 PM
One of the Fighting Talk pundits has struck a bet that LCFC will finish above at least one of the teams who start at shorter prices for the PL (usual suspects, Chelsea, Arsenal, City, United, Spurs, Liverpool)
Think that's a virtual certainty, despite the distractions of Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday games.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 09, 2016, 01:06:57 PM
One of the Fighting Talk pundits has struck a bet that LCFC will finish above at least one of the teams who start at shorter prices for the PL (usual suspects, Chelsea, Arsenal, City, United, Spurs, Liverpool)
Think that's a virtual certainty, despite the distractions of Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday games.

Interesting bet.  Leics are nearly 2/1 in finish in the top 6 but there are other ways he can still win the bet if one of the 'big teams' has a proper shocker.  I would say he is still a small underdog overall.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 15, 2016, 09:27:53 AM
Claudio Ranieri is targeting 40 points as his first target next season More: http://bbc.in/2acy4Ue


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2016, 10:27:35 AM
25 point drop factored into our season points compared to last year

25!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnZ_IiHWIAAom_c.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2016, 11:03:32 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/15/west-brom-offer-9m-for-leicesters-jeffrey-schlupp-as-watford-dro/

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/15/riyad-mahrez-leicester-city?CMP=share_btn_tw

Reality striking.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2016, 11:06:49 AM
£9m for schlupp is a good price, would take it. squad player with great pace. would be worth fortunes if he could shoot straight

Mahrez is under contract until 2019 and there is no release clause. he'll go but wouldn't expect it to be yet. if it does it will be top price and we'll reinvest


non-supporters are far too gloomy (as they were about southampton), going to be fine with the recruitment team in place


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on July 16, 2016, 11:15:35 AM
Leicester are a bit of a nightmare for the Spread firms to price this season imo.  On the face of it a 25 point drop is very derogatory, but if on the flip side it's not unimaginable with champions league football this season (plus potential extra games post Xmas) that they could really struggle to adapt.   I wouldn't have a clue where to pitch their quote if I was a bookie.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2016, 11:18:39 AM
Leicester are a bit of a nightmare for the Spread firms to price this season imo.  On the face of it a 25 point drop is very derogatory, but if on the flip side it's not unimaginable with champions league football this season (plus potential extra games post Xmas) that they could really struggle to adapt.   I wouldn't have a clue where to pitch their quote if I was a bookie.

They are virtually the same price as Stoke to go down on betfair.  Stoke are in for 45 points.  Might say more about what a great tiny risk buy Stoke are at that price however.

20/1 Leicester to go down at hills won't see the day out imo.  I am amazed how bullish Leicester fans still are with their rose tinted glasses on.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2016, 11:27:07 AM
  I am amazed how bullish Leicester fans still are with their rose tinted glasses on.

thats just unfair and a lazy argument

we see, closer than generalists like you, the processes, recruitment and skill of the behind the scenes stuff at the club.

we won't win it again of course but i am amazed how bearish some other fans are through their foggy glasses.

the default is "x has gone, y is going, reality strikes" i think its bollocks, just as it was for Southampton

i am expecting to challenge for the top 6 and would be very surprised if we were outside the top half



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on July 16, 2016, 11:33:54 AM
Leicester are a bit of a nightmare for the Spread firms to price this season imo.  On the face of it a 25 point drop is very derogatory, but if on the flip side it's not unimaginable with champions league football this season (plus potential extra games post Xmas) that they could really struggle to adapt.   I wouldn't have a clue where to pitch their quote if I was a bookie.

They are virtually the same price as Stoke to go down on betfair.  Stoke are in for 45 points.  Might say more about what a great tiny risk buy Stoke are at that price however.

20/1 Leicester to go down at hills won't see the day out imo.  I am amazed how bullish Leicester fans still are with their rose tinted glasses on.

Stoke are rock solid - you can pretty much be certain they'll be in the 40-52 point band I would imagine.  Leicester could do anything next year taking into account last year's performance and the new variables.  With a price of 56 or whatever it is I'd be worried being long or short.  Could end up anywhere!  I do agree that I can't see much going wrong with the Stoke buy at 45.  Just cannot envisage you ever having more than 3/4 points downside.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2016, 11:39:29 AM
  I am amazed how bullish Leicester fans still are with their rose tinted glasses on.

thats just unfair and a lazy argument

we see, closer than generalists like you, the processes, recruitment and skill of the behind the scenes stuff at the club.

we won't win it again of course but i am amazed how bearish some other fans are through their foggy glasses.

the default is "x has gone, y is going, reality strikes" i think its bollocks, just as it was for Southampton

i am expecting to challenge for the top 6 and would be very surprised if we were outside the top half



Tighty you talk like Leicester are the only team in the EPL doing all the behind the scenes stuff Leicester are doing.  Professional sport around the world generally is a copy cat game as the pack 'copy' what the current winners are doing.  Any relative edge Leicester had previously in this area (and it will have been relatively small and a lot of positive variance in the signings which were made to boot over a tiny sample size as we have discussed before for the tiny fees) will be massively diminished this season.  Even if you find these players you won't be paying the bargain basement fees for them this season because you are in the Champions League.  When you are one of the favs to go down like you were last season it is a lot easy to 'nick' a player on the cheap.

There are just so many second season issues/factors which go against Leicester in this spot.  It is hard to find anything that will actually go in your favour next season.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2016, 11:44:43 AM
Leicester are a bit of a nightmare for the Spread firms to price this season imo.  On the face of it a 25 point drop is very derogatory, but if on the flip side it's not unimaginable with champions league football this season (plus potential extra games post Xmas) that they could really struggle to adapt.   I wouldn't have a clue where to pitch their quote if I was a bookie.

They are virtually the same price as Stoke to go down on betfair.  Stoke are in for 45 points.  Might say more about what a great tiny risk buy Stoke are at that price however.

20/1 Leicester to go down at hills won't see the day out imo.  I am amazed how bullish Leicester fans still are with their rose tinted glasses on.

Stoke are rock solid - you can pretty much be certain they'll be in the 40-52 point band I would imagine.  Leicester could do anything next year taking into account last year's performance and the new variables.  With a price of 56 or whatever it is I'd be worried being long or short.  Could end up anywhere!  I do agree that I can't see much going wrong with the Stoke buy at 45.  Just cannot envisage you ever having more than 3/4 points downside.

Obviously the deviations involved with Leics are potentially huge and Stoke are the polar opposite.  I get all that.   Let's see how two aging, paceless 30 something centre halves cope this season (playing twice a week most weeks with little rest and plenty of travel compared to having 7 days between each game to prepare physically and tactically last season) without their enforcer sitting in front of them mopping up all the danger.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on July 16, 2016, 12:01:52 PM
  I am amazed how bullish Leicester fans still are with their rose tinted glasses on.

thats just unfair and a lazy argument

we see, closer than generalists like you, the processes, recruitment and skill of the behind the scenes stuff at the club.

we won't win it again of course but i am amazed how bearish some other fans are through their foggy glasses.

the default is "x has gone, y is going, reality strikes" i think its bollocks, just as it was for Southampton

i am expecting to challenge for the top 6 and would be very surprised if we were outside the top half



Tighty you talk like Leicester are the only team in the EPL doing all the behind the scenes stuff Leicester are doing.  Professional sport around the world generally is a copy cat game as the pack 'copy' what the current winners are doing.  Any relative edge Leicester had previously in this area (and it will have been relatively small and a lot of positive variance in the signings which were made to boot over a tiny sample size as we have discussed before for the tiny fees) will be massively diminished this season.  Even if you find these players you won't be paying the bargain basement fees for them this season because you are in the Champions League.  When you are one of the favs to go down like you were last season it is a lot easy to 'nick' a player on the cheap.

There are just so many second season issues/factors which go against Leicester in this spot.  It is hard to find anything that will actually go in your favour next season.

I don't want to trade Leicester this year, but where would you pitch their points quote?  I think it's such a hard one to price up for all the reasons we have discussed.  It's one of the few instances where a 1.5 point spread feels too small for a season points quote if I were a bookie.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2016, 12:08:57 PM
 I am amazed how bullish Leicester fans still are with their rose tinted glasses on.

thats just unfair and a lazy argument

we see, closer than generalists like you, the processes, recruitment and skill of the behind the scenes stuff at the club.

we won't win it again of course but i am amazed how bearish some other fans are through their foggy glasses.

the default is "x has gone, y is going, reality strikes" i think its bollocks, just as it was for Southampton

i am expecting to challenge for the top 6 and would be very surprised if we were outside the top half



Tighty you talk like Leicester are the only team in the EPL doing all the behind the scenes stuff Leicester are doing.  Professional sport around the world generally is a copy cat game as the pack 'copy' what the current winners are doing.  Any relative edge Leicester had previously in this area (and it will have been relatively small and a lot of positive variance in the signings which were made to boot over a tiny sample size as we have discussed before for the tiny fees) will be massively diminished this season.  Even if you find these players you won't be paying the bargain basement fees for them this season because you are in the Champions League.  When you are one of the favs to go down like you were last season it is a lot easy to 'nick' a player on the cheap.

There are just so many second season issues/factors which go against Leicester in this spot.  It is hard to find anything that will actually go in your favour next season.

I don't want to trade Leicester this year, but where would you pitch their points quote?  I think it's such a hard one to price up for all the reasons we have discussed.  It's one of the few instances where a 1.5 point spread feels too small for a season points quote if I were a bookie.

I would happily lay Leicester for a top 6 finish at top price 2/1 for decent money.  That is the bet i would be most keen to smash into.  Leicester bottom half finish 3/1.  Laying vardy top 4 goalscorer around the 4/1 mark i would imagine.  I will be opposing Leicester on most markets.  Expecting to get a decent price Stoke top Midlands etc.  WH/Soton/Everton/Stoke v Leics match bets.  You don't get spots like this very often in sport that are so hard to price up so you have to get involved as potentially there are ricks everywhere.

With the quote i just don't see a spot where Leicester get anywhere close to 70 points this season.  I don't actually see that much downside in selling.  I think the quote is too high but i understand why because they will still see buyers at that price because it is '25 points lower than last season's total'.

Only Spurs and Arsenal out of the top 6 are probably fully exposed.  The other 4 teams are open to any amount of improvement on last season for obvious reasons (including 2 of them not having any European scheduling/rest issues as well - this was one of Leicester's biggest competitive advantages last season).  When was the last time so many of the big 6 were open to so much improvement in the same season?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 16, 2016, 07:25:10 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/16/leicester-city-resigned-to-losing-head-of-recruitment-steve-wals/

Anyone going to be left?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 20, 2016, 10:33:31 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/16/leicester-city-resigned-to-losing-head-of-recruitment-steve-wals/

Anyone going to be left?

this looks like it is happening today and is a big blow, more than any player going

going to be director of football at his boyhood club two miles away from where he lives. Has been travelling liverpool-leicester and back almost daily for 5 years, plus scouting trips at weekends.

impact unlikely to be felt too much this year but as the lists and data compiled become less relevant as time goes on then we'll need to see how he is replaced

--

on brighter matters, Mahrez played last nigt at Oxford and in their 45 minutes each both Demarai Gray and Ahmed usa looked superb

Musa is very quick, slated for the hole behind Vardy and we should be hugely dangerous on the counter if we can win the ball without Kante (of course he often won it unexpectedly so we could counter without the opponent being in defensive alignements)

--

next up Celtic, PSG and Barcelona in the champions cup ahead of the community shield. 12,000 miles to travel for those three games, in glasgow, LA and stockholm


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 24, 2016, 10:36:15 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoEsB_lWAAAIofD.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoEpAAZXgAEyeQE.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on July 24, 2016, 12:36:01 PM
Mahrez looked amazing. Leicster looked awful defensively though.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 24, 2016, 12:42:47 PM
Mahrez looked amazing. Leicster looked awful defensively though.

lol, no they didn't. All the Ranieri type narrow defending and closing the gaps was put in place and looked to be solid

Chilwell at left back is going to be a superstar. about to sign a new contract

trying different combinations at centre back yesterday, and morgan and huth were not together

Drinkwater patrolled in front of the back four fine. clearly going to miss Kante, but Amartey looked very good there second half

all systems go really, but roll on the end of the transfer window

team flies off to LA tomorrow to play PSG on Sunday


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on July 24, 2016, 12:55:19 PM
Did you watch the whole game? They were very very shaky at the back.

If you were so great how come you drew 1-1 with a team that got beat off a Gibraltarian team the week earlier in a competitive match?!

I watched the whole game, in my completely unbiased view Mahrez was by far the best player on the pitch, as a team You looked very shaky defensively. It's only pre season though.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 24, 2016, 12:58:01 PM
Yes of course i watched the whole game

thought we played very well, our second game of pre season, celtic's 8th

we were certainly not shaky defensively. celtic had three worthwhile shots on target and scored an excellent goal

i am really looking forward to Musa and Vardy on the counter. extreme pace and going to cause all sorts of problems

defensively we will miss Kante but were solid enough yesterday. no issues at all.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on July 24, 2016, 01:02:18 PM
0:30 way way too easily getting through the middle, luckily it was Scott Brown and not Hazard at the edge of the box with a free shot

1:15 awful awful decision to pass back from midfield instead of going forward. Once it goes back to Drinkwater far from "patrolling" well, awful mistake and again just lucky it was against such bad opposition

1:30 awful defending allowing such an easy cross to come in. Once it comes in the ball bounces 3-4 times and agin lucky it wasn't ibra on the end of it

3:40 again very slow defending and Amartey you praised too slow to get out


https://youtu.be/ES7JmZ9Ba3g

Just from the very basic 5 minute highlights form the game. In general Kante miss just looking far too big to be replaced and Chillwell looks like easy target to punish aerially and when the games come thick and fast I think it will be too much this year.

I hope I'm wrong, I love a lot of your players. Drinkwater, Mahrez, Morgan, Kasper. I want you guys to do well.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 24, 2016, 01:30:42 PM
Just has 2nd season bounce factor written all over it in so many ways.  So many players surely regress back to their natural levels this season coming?   I really want to oppose Vardy in a goals over/under season bet.  What you think they will put it in at?  13.5 goals?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on July 24, 2016, 01:44:08 PM
Think it's a bit nitpicking to say Leicester looked poor defensively.  The 1:15 one aside when they gave it away didn't seem much to be critical of to me and it is an early pre-season game.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on July 24, 2016, 03:15:32 PM
Think it's a bit nitpicking to say Leicester looked poor defensively.  The 1:15 one aside when they gave it away didn't seem much to be critical of to me and it is an early pre-season game.

This. As Tighty said, Celtic have already played competitive games, and although they lost the away leg they won the return pretty comfortably.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on July 24, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
Just has 2nd season bounce factor written all over it in so many ways.  So many players surely regress back to their natural levels this season coming?   I really want to oppose Vardy in a goals over/under season bet.  What you think they will put it in at?  13.5 goals?

Must go over?  I'd set the line probably at 17.5. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 24, 2016, 10:49:05 PM
Just has 2nd season bounce factor written all over it in so many ways.  So many players surely regress back to their natural levels this season coming?   I really want to oppose Vardy in a goals over/under season bet.  What you think they will put it in at?  13.5 goals?

Must go over?  I'd set the line probably at 17.5. 

I won't ask you to lay me a bet under 17.5 even for £50 never mind what i really want.  Stick to being the leftie socialist kmac!!!  Not an odds compiler!  Stick to the knitting.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: atdc21 on July 24, 2016, 10:58:32 PM
so the ; no brainer ' that vardy would leave wasnt a no brainer? btw i know nothing about footie , just thought i read he was bound to leave.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on July 24, 2016, 11:18:58 PM
Just has 2nd season bounce factor written all over it in so many ways.  So many players surely regress back to their natural levels this season coming?   I really want to oppose Vardy in a goals over/under season bet.  What you think they will put it in at?  13.5 goals?

Must go over?  I'd set the line probably at 17.5. 

I won't ask you to lay me a bet under 17.5 even for £50 never mind what i really want.  Stick to being the leftie socialist kmac!!!  Not an odds compiler!  Stick to the knitting.

You should lay of the white lightening fella.  It seems to play mind tricks on you. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 25, 2016, 12:45:25 AM
Just has 2nd season bounce factor written all over it in so many ways.  So many players surely regress back to their natural levels this season coming?   I really want to oppose Vardy in a goals over/under season bet.  What you think they will put it in at?  13.5 goals?

Must go over?  I'd set the line probably at 17.5. 

I won't ask you to lay me a bet under 17.5 even for £50 never mind what i really want.  Stick to being the leftie socialist kmac!!!  Not an odds compiler!  Stick to the knitting.

You should lay of the white lightening fella.  It seems to play mind tricks on you. 

Happy to bet under 17.5 Vardy EPL goals next season for whatever you want at evens.  Let me know.  Stella doesn't affect my brain ahead of hard cash.  I need hard cash to pay for the stella.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on July 25, 2016, 12:50:26 AM
so the ; no brainer ' that vardy would leave wasnt a no brainer? btw i know nothing about footie , just thought i read he was bound to leave.

He might still leave now the other big two have left.  Never say never.  He won't lose anything PR wise now being the last to leave via his legacy.  Unlikely but never say never.  He got a great excuse to leave now as well with the other big boys leaving.  He can come out with the 'i signed up for the long term with the same squad and they have left' blah blah.  Doubt he will.  He has a mansion in Melton which he would struggle to buy in London for the same size if he moved on.  He is a northern monkey at heart as well.  He got paid by Leicester as well long term with his contract upgrade so has his pension now.  Probably won't ever play for England again but shouldn't really care.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 25, 2016, 01:51:45 AM
Mahrez hasn't left. Vardy most certainly will play for eng under Sam. Might actually Olay a style that suits him too


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on July 25, 2016, 06:19:57 AM
Mahrez hasn't left. Vardy most certainly will play for eng under Sam. Might actually Olay a style that suits him too

Might get to see Vardy and Deeney together after all under Big Sam :)  I'm convinced Deeney is Vardy's perfect strike partner.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 25, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
the flight to LA yesterday

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoI47qLXEAAjKfv.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoLyBjdXYAA0aRK.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoI4AqbWAAAXDk0.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoI4CKDWIAATi_G.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on July 25, 2016, 11:25:29 AM
Just has 2nd season bounce factor written all over it in so many ways.  So many players surely regress back to their natural levels this season coming?   I really want to oppose Vardy in a goals over/under season bet.  What you think they will put it in at?  13.5 goals?

Must go over?  I'd set the line probably at 17.5. 

I won't ask you to lay me a bet under 17.5 even for £50 never mind what i really want.  Stick to being the leftie socialist kmac!!!  Not an odds compiler!  Stick to the knitting.

You should lay of the white lightening fella.  It seems to play mind tricks on you. 

Happy to bet under 17.5 Vardy EPL goals next season for whatever you want at evens.  Let me know.  Stella doesn't affect my brain ahead of hard cash.  I need hard cash to pay for the stella.

I'll take over 13.5 for £200 you are the pro line setter after all. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 25, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
Tighty, can I pick your brain for Leicester knowledge? (the city, not the team)

Band playing at the o2 in November I'm 99% gonna travel down to see, and will have to stay the night. Decent hotels in reasonable (walking) proximity to the venue and also the train station? Don't wanna spend too much but equally don't wanna be in a shit tip :)

Cheers.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 25, 2016, 11:59:35 AM
Tighty, can I pick your brain for Leicester knowledge? (the city, not the team)

Band playing at the o2 in November I'm 99% gonna travel down to see, and will have to stay the night. Decent hotels in reasonable (walking) proximity to the venue and also the train station? Don't wanna spend too much but equally don't wanna be in a shit tip :)

Cheers.



the Premier Inn is right next to the station, then ten minutes up the road to the university campus. fine for one night, mid market business/leisure hotel and v v convenient for everything

Leicester Central is the one you are looking for, there are several in leicester

http://www.premierinn.com/gb/en/hotels/england/leicestershire/leicester/leicester-central-a50.html

just down the road and a touch more expensive is the Ramada Encore. 3 mins to train station, 10-15 to the 02 walking.

http://www.leicestercitycentrehotel.com/

either is fine imo


the one visiting football teams stay at is the marriott out by the motorway, which is very plush. one of the good marriotts. far far less convenient for city centre stuff though

http://www.marriott.co.uk/hotels/travel/emalm-leicester-marriott-hotel/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 25, 2016, 12:09:57 PM
Tighty, can I pick your brain for Leicester knowledge? (the city, not the team)

Band playing at the o2 in November I'm 99% gonna travel down to see, and will have to stay the night. Decent hotels in reasonable (walking) proximity to the venue and also the train station? Don't wanna spend too much but equally don't wanna be in a shit tip :)

Cheers.



the Premier Inn is right next to the station, then ten minutes up the road to the university campus. fine for one night, mid market business/leisure hotel and v v convenient for everything

Leicester Central is the one you are looking for, there are several in leicester

http://www.premierinn.com/gb/en/hotels/england/leicestershire/leicester/leicester-central-a50.html

just down the road and a touch more expensive is the Ramada Encore. 3 mins to train station, 10-15 to the 02 walking.

http://www.leicestercitycentrehotel.com/

either is fine imo


the one visiting football teams stay at is the marriott out by the motorway, which is very plush. one of the good marriotts. far far less convenient for city centre stuff though

http://www.marriott.co.uk/hotels/travel/emalm-leicester-marriott-hotel/

Good stuff, appreciated. £37.50 for the Premier Inn more than appeals to my tight Yorkshire disposition. Can't recall ever being in Leicester! Think its an international break as no Premier League football that weekend but might go see a lower league midlands game if something fits the schedule. Bit rude not to if I'm in that neck of the woods.

Cheers again.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on July 25, 2016, 12:20:19 PM
Tighty, can I pick your brain for Leicester knowledge? (the city, not the team)

Band playing at the o2 in November I'm 99% gonna travel down to see, and will have to stay the night. Decent hotels in reasonable (walking) proximity to the venue and also the train station? Don't wanna spend too much but equally don't wanna be in a shit tip :)

Cheers.



the Premier Inn is right next to the station, then ten minutes up the road to the university campus. fine for one night, mid market business/leisure hotel and v v convenient for everything

Leicester Central is the one you are looking for, there are several in leicester

http://www.premierinn.com/gb/en/hotels/england/leicestershire/leicester/leicester-central-a50.html

just down the road and a touch more expensive is the Ramada Encore. 3 mins to train station, 10-15 to the 02 walking.

http://www.leicestercitycentrehotel.com/

either is fine imo


the one visiting football teams stay at is the marriott out by the motorway, which is very plush. one of the good marriotts. far far less convenient for city centre stuff though

http://www.marriott.co.uk/hotels/travel/emalm-leicester-marriott-hotel/

Good stuff, appreciated. £37.50 for the Premier Inn more than appeals to my tight Yorkshire disposition. Can't recall ever being in Leicester! Think its an international break as no Premier League football that weekend but might go see a lower league midlands game if something fits the schedule. Bit rude not to if I'm in that neck of the woods.

Cheers again.

If you are in Leicester, & want something interesting to go & see, this is a must.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on July 25, 2016, 11:32:06 PM
Give us a shout nearer the time, can crash at our Blue House and sleep under Photos and Flags of City, we can go on the lash if you wish :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 26, 2016, 05:03:35 PM
Give us a shout nearer the time, can crash at our Blue House and sleep under Photos and Flags of City, we can go on the lash if you wish :)

Haha, I'll have a lady in tow so not sure how popular that would make me with her ;)

Surprised George2lose wasn't first in with sociable offers....


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 29, 2016, 12:43:14 PM
this is a good catch

going to be a special player

Ben Chilwell signs new lcfc contract to June 2021: http://leic.it/2a2Ed8J

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoeIgWlWAAAv45n.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 29, 2016, 02:22:00 PM
Bartosz Kapustka | Poland's Teenage Soccer Sensation

signing for £7m

exciting

"Cracovia News ‏@CracoviaNews

#LCFC fans - in #Kapustka you're getting the best Polish youth prospect in 20+ years. Even Lewandowski wasn't rated this highly when he left"


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEJb_7aqacI


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on July 29, 2016, 08:49:02 PM
Tighty,

If Mahrez stays who of Albrighton/Gray/Kapustka do you think gets the most minutes on the left?
If Mahrez goes which two of the trio will start on the wings? Or is not that simple?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 30, 2016, 09:48:16 AM
Tighty,

If Mahrez stays who of Albrighton/Gray/Kapustka do you think gets the most minutes on the left?
If Mahrez goes which two of the trio will start on the wings? Or is not that simple?

not easy questions

You have to include Schlupp too on the left. Chilwell is very close to supplanting Fuchs at left back and Schlupp will be exclusively be used further forward

Gray has progressed a lot, and probably replaces Mahrez if it comes to it. If he stays i could see it being a very "horses for courses" type of season on the flanks with all of them featuring.  

to throw a spanner in Ranieri has mooted featuring different formations this season

the thinking is that Kante allowed us to play 4-4-2 even against the top teams as we could match up even a midfielder light because of Kante's ability to shield the back four

without him it is suggested that we could be outgunned in midfield, especially away from home and against the big boys

so a 4-3-3 (4-5-1 without the ball, 4-3-3 with it) has been worked on a lot


something like

       Schmeichel

Simpson Huth Morgan Fuchs/Chilwell

     Mendy Drinkwater Amartey

    Mahrez           Musa
                Vardy

with Mahrez and Musa dropping back and in front of the full backs without the ball but three very quick players up top for the counter if the three in the middle win the ball

in that formation none of the wide players start.

so picking a team/formation etc is tougher this season, in part because we have 6 more games before Xmas and rotation is much more likely


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on July 30, 2016, 10:24:38 AM
What happened to Inhler?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 30, 2016, 10:28:50 AM
What happened to Inhler?

Inler

couldn't break into the side when he arrived a year ago

a few games into the season Kante-Drinkwater partnership was formed and given the form the pair were soon in Inler couldn't get a look in. Both players remained fit, and not enough games for rotation to be required. Inler was behind Kng too

spent much of the season on/off the bench

in the few games he did play (cups etc) looked off the pace

all this meant he was left out of the Swiss Euro 2016 squad

wasn't taken to LA this week for the PSG game

played for the U23s at Nuneaton last sunday

would like to stay and win a place (wages v good) but a loan deal back to the continent looks likely


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: dino1980 on July 30, 2016, 10:38:02 AM
Tighty,

If Mahrez stays who of Albrighton/Gray/Kapustka do you think gets the most minutes on the left?
If Mahrez goes which two of the trio will start on the wings? Or is not that simple?

Leicester formation thoughts...
Thanks for the answer Rich, much appreciated. Interesting times ahead by the sounds of things.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on July 30, 2016, 03:06:15 PM
Thoughts on knockeart? Newcastle apparantly on verge of securing his signature.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 30, 2016, 03:34:52 PM
Thoughts on knockeart? Newcastle apparantly on verge of securing his signature.

one of my favourite players to watch

discovered in french football by Walsh and was terrific for us in the championship over a couple of seasons

a bit of a character, and not the best trainer, he fell out with Pearson (for whom you need to show work ethic to go with the flair) who hardly picked him the season after we got promoted in the Premier league then sold him at the end of the season

Will create loads off either flank and show great skill

scored possibly the best goal i have seen live, the second one here the back heel volleyed flick

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHF4qWUDXac



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on July 30, 2016, 03:41:09 PM
Thoughts on knockeart? Newcastle apparantly on verge of securing his signature.

one of my favourite players to watch

discovered in french football by Walsh and was terrific for us in the championship over a couple of seasons

a bit of a character, and not the best trainer, he fell out with Pearson (for whom you need to show work ethic to go with the flair) who hardly picked him the season after we got promoted in the Premier league then sold him at the end of the season

Will create loads off either flank and show great skill

scored possibly the best goal i have seen live, the second one here the back heel volleyed flick

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHF4qWUDXac



Who gets the upper hand when Mike Ashley and Tony Bloom do a deal?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on July 31, 2016, 08:52:48 AM
How did you look yesterday vs PSG? Didn't see the game and often the score line doesn't necessarily matter in pre season.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on July 31, 2016, 10:41:59 AM
i haven't seen it yet. 5am on a sunday morning it was skyplussed to watch later.

which i might not now!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 01, 2016, 09:50:01 AM
i haven't seen it yet. 5am on a sunday morning it was skyplussed to watch later.

which i might not now!

the answer to this was that we were outclassed by a pretty much first choice PSG side

Very clinical in front of goal

we played a pre-season mix and match team and looked well behind them, but our best line up wouldn't have got close either

PSG beat Real 3-1 Inter 3-1 and us 4-0 in a week in America


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 01, 2016, 09:50:24 AM
Jamie Vardy: 'My life now is carnage. I don't leave my house'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/31/jamie-vardy-my-life-now-is-carnage-i-dont-leave-my-house/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 03, 2016, 08:09:51 PM
all rather surreal

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co9DlWfW8AAU1MW.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on August 03, 2016, 09:00:18 PM
all rather surreal

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co9DlWfW8AAU1MW.jpg)

Yep, his hair is a bit ridiculous.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on August 03, 2016, 09:01:23 PM
all rather surreal

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co9DlWfW8AAU1MW.jpg)

Yep, his hair is a bit ridiculous.


:D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on August 04, 2016, 12:42:21 AM
Couple nice goals from musa


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 04, 2016, 01:01:12 AM
Couple nice goals from musa

Stop wetting on


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on August 04, 2016, 02:14:58 AM
Jamie Vardy: 'My life now is carnage. I don't leave my house'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/31/jamie-vardy-my-life-now-is-carnage-i-dont-leave-my-house/

Saying your life is carnage makes him sound like a tool in my opinion.  Look around at others Vardy and stop whining you moron.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: david3103 on August 04, 2016, 07:20:35 AM
Jamie Vardy: 'My life now is carnage. I don't leave my house'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/31/jamie-vardy-my-life-now-is-carnage-i-dont-leave-my-house/

Saying your life is carnage makes him sound like a tool in my opinion.  Look around at others Vardy and stop whining you moron.

Of course, if you take the trouble to actually read the article you will find the whole sentence from which that headline was taken.

So does life feel different as a champion? “It is carnage. I basically can’t go out at the minute and I don’t leave my house,” he says, closing his eyes and laughing.




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on August 04, 2016, 08:29:39 AM
Jamie Vardy: 'My life now is carnage. I don't leave my house'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/31/jamie-vardy-my-life-now-is-carnage-i-dont-leave-my-house/

Saying your life is carnage makes him sound like a tool in my opinion.  Look around at others Vardy and stop whining you moron.

That's a bit harsh, Dung, it was just part of a jocular throwaway line.

I don't particularly love him as a person, & I loathed his referee rant towards the end of last season, but don't think we can pull him up on that one-liner.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on August 04, 2016, 09:40:33 AM
Fair enough.  Thought based on the quote it was going to be a rich person moaning about being famous.  My apologies to Mr Vardy.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on August 04, 2016, 04:43:14 PM
Is there room for Vardy and Musa in same team? Both seem like off the shoulder type of strikers. Will be interesting how they fit in.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 04, 2016, 04:54:44 PM
Is there room for Vardy and Musa in same team? Both seem like off the shoulder type of strikers. Will be interesting how they fit in.

they are similar, though Musa more often has played wide for both CSKA and Nigeria. Last night was really the first game where he looked to be settled in a bit and showed some of the potential us fans have seen on the you tubes....

i think he'd try to fit them both in, maybe Musa (and Mahrez if he stays) behind Vardy, especially against the big teams where we could really offer a potent threat on the counter and force the opponent to defend deep

the major outstanding issue is who will play defensive midfield next to Drinkwater.

can they play 4-4-2 without Kante (who allowed us to be one light in midfield last year, and won the ball often unexpectedly allowing us to transition when the opponent wasn't set) or does it need to be 4-3-3/4-5-1 the main issue

PSG and Barca cut through us at will but thats PSG and Barca, maybe its not going to be so pronounced in the premier league.

i put up the other day...

something like


                Schmeichel

Simpson  Huth  Morgan  Fuchs

        King Drinkwater Amartey

         Mahrez       Musa
                  Vardy

with plenty of depth (the squad is far stronger than last season) with Chilwell, Hernandez, wasilewski, mendy, james, gray, albrighton, schlupp, okazaki and ulloa to rotate in

and probably a couple of lumps to spend before Aug 30th.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 04, 2016, 11:50:47 PM
I wouldn't fancy defending to far against that front 3.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 04, 2016, 11:56:50 PM
I wouldn't fancy defending too far up against that front 3.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 05, 2016, 01:16:56 PM
Leicester City chairman has bought each player who helped win the Premier League a brand new BMW i8.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpFvpwTW8AESTai.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpFvqZ6WIAE9GzV.jpg)

not the worst morning to have been the Sytner Leicester salesman who picked up the call......


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on August 08, 2016, 04:47:23 AM
how were you yesterday? i didnt catch the game.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 08, 2016, 10:41:11 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpUiIGnWYAA8vJz.jpg)

a bit pedestrian first half, and conceded a goal that we never would have conceded last year. the midfield combination with drinkwater remains the pressing issue

secod half with musa and vardy through the middle and gray/mahrez out wide was like watching a sprint relay team. we are going to scare teams witless on the counter

set against that Mourinho played us quite the complement, the back four defended the 18 yard box and set up to give no space in behind. that will be a major challenge this season, having to break teams down more

still, while we aren't at last year's level yet enough signs to show we are going to be competitive again


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on August 08, 2016, 06:31:48 PM
Top ten Spot Rich? Not confident of our season to be fair, Obv need to improve in the defence, signings are decent but not having them available right now is my concern.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on August 08, 2016, 06:34:16 PM
Think Musa will start or be a regular?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 08, 2016, 06:35:43 PM
top ten yes. 7th-10th sort of area, if we run well maybe a touch higher. top of the table is tougher this year compared to last

a couple more players due in, i gather.

get to 40 points same as 2/3 of the division then re-evaluate in practice.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 08, 2016, 07:01:28 PM
Think Musa will start or be a regular?

i would like to think a regular, but maybe not yet.

on very limited evidence i like him in behind Vardy but the looming issue in front of the back four might mean a more conservative approach and Musa on the bench for now

i would really like the pair on the counter in champions league away matches


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on August 10, 2016, 09:53:52 AM
Paul Mitchell could be your best signing of the summer.

Disappointed to lose him.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on August 10, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
He was spurs' head of recruitment, having left Southampton.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: NoCardDSC on August 10, 2016, 10:10:41 AM
Claudio Ranieri unsurprisingly signing a new contract which will see him through to 2020.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 10, 2016, 11:29:20 AM
I wish LCFC were more careful with these pictures. They've completely given away our defensive formation now

interestingly, no compensation clause in the new contract. now on £3m per.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpfCQvsXgAEpWtx.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 11, 2016, 11:55:30 AM
Riyad Mahrez agrees not to leave Leicester City in current transfer window

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/10/riyad-mahrez-not-leave-leicester?CMP=share_btn_tw

good news short term

there is no release clause and he has 3 years left, and we're not selling

pretty likely for january or next summer i'd say. tea leaves are he would like to go but will stay for now


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on August 13, 2016, 02:47:40 PM
defence looking shaky and same as the pre season games I've been watching.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on August 13, 2016, 03:00:47 PM
Leicester look poor all over the park. 

Glad I resisted the temptation of having more than Mahrez in my dream team(s)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: vegaslover on August 13, 2016, 03:20:57 PM
Well, that was painful to watch, awful game of football. Leicester looked terrible


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on August 13, 2016, 03:24:26 PM
Overreactions inevitable. Looks like they've had a good summer. Seems likely they'll bounce back. Hasn't cured Hull's ills either.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 13, 2016, 03:24:49 PM
Very sloppy performance indeed.

not much good to say really. missed the few chances we had, looked off the pace, defensively suspect.

gets easier next week, Arsenal.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on August 13, 2016, 03:27:35 PM
Thought Musa looked decent.  One of the few positives.  Can't help but feel that Leicester are going to struggle when teams defend deep and nullify the pace.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 13, 2016, 03:34:47 PM
Thought Musa looked decent.  One of the few positives.  Can't help but feel that Leicester are going to struggle when teams defend deep and nullify the pace.

Vardy had two top chances, missed them both. different story, no matter how badly we played, if he scores one at 0-0

going to be a long season for any team if your main man doesn't bury those. of course it could be argued that the finishing was way above expectation last year

very few teams sat deep last season. the top teams aren't gonig to this year either

just have to play better


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on August 13, 2016, 03:43:03 PM
Missed Huth massively


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 13, 2016, 03:47:50 PM
Missed Huth massively

true

and Kante, but there's no solution to that one on the horizon. no player is irreplaceable but he's close


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 13, 2016, 03:49:52 PM
Leicester look poor all over the park. 

Glad I resisted the temptation of having more than Mahrez in my dream team(s)


you got very lucky. non one knew that he was back on pens

He was dreadful today. (one of ten that were, will give musa a pass)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on August 13, 2016, 04:07:37 PM
Leicester look poor all over the park. 

Glad I resisted the temptation of having more than Mahrez in my dream team(s)


you got very lucky. non one knew that he was back on pens

He was dreadful today. (one of ten that were, will give musa a pass)

Yeah from what i saw he wasn't great i was watching in between breaks in the rangers match. 



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 14, 2016, 11:48:32 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpxRjZIXEAA5BZd.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Longines on August 17, 2016, 08:24:20 PM
http://www.lcfc.com/news/article/2016-17/riyad-mahrez-leicester-city-magician-signs-new-contract-3255730.aspx

Guesses on the size of the release clause?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on August 17, 2016, 11:53:02 PM
http://www.lcfc.com/news/article/2016-17/riyad-mahrez-leicester-city-magician-signs-new-contract-3255730.aspx

Guesses on the size of the release clause?

Report is there isn't one. No point. Not like arsenal would know what it means anyway.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 18, 2016, 01:47:24 PM
There is no release clause. Interesting

the contract length of all players is currently

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqF3qkNWIAA3OQa.jpg)

Drinkwater is seen as the most pressing renewal. he's still on the £40,000 a week cap whereas the new contracts are up to and over £100,000 a week befitting extra revenues from PL finishing revenue and CL revenue to come


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on August 18, 2016, 06:53:31 PM
There is no release clause. Interesting

the contract length of all players is currently

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqF3qkNWIAA3OQa.jpg)

Drinkwater is seen as the most pressing renewal. he's still on the £40,000 a week cap whereas the new contracts are up to and over £100,000 a week befitting extra revenues from PL finishing revenue and CL revenue to come

If Leicester finish, as widely expected, 7th/8th this year and then around that position moving forward (lower top half, 7th-10th) then won't those contracts be unsustainable in coming years? 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 19, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
don't have a firm answer for that but with a) the new TV deal guaranteeing even the bottom sice £100m and a step change in the commercial fortunes of the club in the last nine months (shirt sales are through the roof worldwide) then i'd hope it is all costed out and sustainable on reasonable scanarios


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on August 19, 2016, 02:42:10 PM
There is no release clause. Interesting

the contract length of all players is currently

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqF3qkNWIAA3OQa.jpg)

Drinkwater is seen as the most pressing renewal. he's still on the £40,000 a week cap whereas the new contracts are up to and over £100,000 a week befitting extra revenues from PL finishing revenue and CL revenue to come

If Leicester finish, as widely expected, 7th/8th this year and then around that position moving forward (lower top half, 7th-10th) then won't those contracts be unsustainable in coming years? 

I'm sure Leicester were sensible enough to insert relegation based clauses into them all ;)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 21, 2016, 11:15:35 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqVKF-5WcAEPc25.jpg)

off the mark yesterday, but still not firing or fully fit. had a good shot against a pretty humdrum arsenal side playing without a striker and with Walcott reprising his invisible man role from seasons past. Koscielny made a big difference though

looked a lot more solid with Huth back

Arsenal too defended deep, and we struggled to create much and i suspect this might be an ongoing problem. we just don't look that threatening when we have time to build play up with defenders between us and the goal. without kante we aren't winning the ball unexpectedly to launch counters   

mind you Mr Clatternburg's decision not to give a very late penalty, Bellerin on Musa, stonewall job, was the type of decision we'd get routinely last year.  if it wasn't a penalty, why wasn't Musa booked for diving? it was one or the other.

one thing is for sure, we need to work out a way to fit Musa in to play for 90 minutes


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on August 21, 2016, 05:44:52 PM
One of the worst decisions iv ever seen that from Clattenburg, so clear cut. Refereeing has been pretty ordinary again this so far, see a few awful dives that havn't been booked.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on August 21, 2016, 08:02:26 PM
One of the worst decisions iv ever seen that from Clattenburg, so clear cut. Refereeing has been pretty ordinary again this so far, see a few awful dives that havn't been booked.

Yep Costa should have been red carded for a dive yesterday before he got winning goal against us.  And he should have gone against West Ham.  Weak refereeing after they were so good at the Euros I thought.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on August 21, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
One of the worst decisions iv ever seen that from Clattenburg, so clear cut. Refereeing has been pretty ordinary again this so far, see a few awful dives that havn't been booked.

In Clattenburg's defence Musa was directly behind Hector from where he was standing and I also thought at first it was merely a tangle of legs.

Obviously a clear dive and should have been a booking having watched the replays. ;)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 22, 2016, 06:16:25 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqdKY6DWAAAL8PE.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 22, 2016, 06:18:05 PM
thursday afternoon for the champions league draw

whisper it, but clubs may be hoping we are the pot 1 club they get

no easy draws in this lot....

where is ludogerets?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqeeBpNXEAAniHp.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on August 22, 2016, 08:13:05 PM
Instinct says Switzerland or Austria or somewhere like that.....Google says Bulgaria. If you got them away in September you could feature on the next series of What Happens In Sunny Beach.... ;)

Maybe we'll get turned over 6-1 and I'll look stupid (again), but not sure there is a need for a * next to City's name :) I've been telling everyone the draw is Friday, whoops.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on August 22, 2016, 08:18:28 PM
On a purely selfish level, I've previously been away to Copenhagen, Sporting Lisbon, Bayern Munich and Dynamo Kiev so hoping City avoid them. Quite fancy Legia Warsaw, and Club Brugge would be a laugh, perfect tie to get the ferry over to from 'ull. Ditto for Eindhoven as well.

Don't really fancy any trips to Turkey or Russia as it stands so would prefer to swerve them too :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on August 22, 2016, 08:56:16 PM
Ludogerets are from Bulgaria.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on August 22, 2016, 09:05:30 PM
Madrid, Dortmund, Spurs, Roma seems a reasonable group.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: KarmaDope on August 22, 2016, 09:26:21 PM
best draw/worst draw in your opinion, Tighty?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on August 23, 2016, 02:02:37 AM
best draw for Leicester has to be Basel, RBS, Rostov or Celtic or Razgrad IMHO


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on August 23, 2016, 07:47:33 AM
Realistically Leicester aren't going to win the Champs League. Wouldn't the best draw therefore be the hardest group possible to give the fans a really good look at some great teams? Might still sneak through plus you get to see more glamour clubs.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 23, 2016, 10:26:09 AM
pretty much this

key thing for many fans is can they get to the games? no thanks to kiev, rostov and ludogorets

yes please to a group of dortmund, psv and roma....finish 4th avoid the europa league but have a blast doing it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 25, 2016, 10:33:35 AM
marvellous :-(

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqp6FVyWcAEHChS.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 25, 2016, 11:10:15 AM
Danny Drinkwater signs five-year deal with Leicester City

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqsGqt8WgAAeu8W.jpg)

i think thats all the key players tied up now (release clauses, relegation clauses etc notwithstanding)

now for a bit more squad strengthening, central holding midfield still an issue

we are rumoured, with whatever veracity to want Nzonzi from Sevilla for £25m who iirc from stoke is an attacking midfield/link player not a holder.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on August 25, 2016, 06:28:12 PM
i hope your not superstitious tighty


Leicester in Group G
Group G is the only group not to have produced a single Champions League winner in the last 13 seasons. Unwanted.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 25, 2016, 06:34:24 PM
^ first time for everything

Porto first out for us. take that (in so far as its slighlty less bad than atletico and dortmund)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 25, 2016, 06:41:10 PM
Bruges. Perfect

nice draw


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 25, 2016, 06:48:16 PM
Boom

Porto, Bruges and Copenhagen

three do-able trips and not nasty tough

passport out then.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on August 25, 2016, 06:50:50 PM
Boom

Porto, Bruges and Copenhagen

three do-able trips and not nasty tough

passport out then.

Will you go to them all? All nice cities.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 25, 2016, 06:52:32 PM
need to check dates

haven't been to any of them.

will go to one minimum, see about costs etc

Porto would be my first choice


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on August 25, 2016, 07:00:52 PM
Dream draw for many reasons.

Enjoy!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on August 25, 2016, 07:18:06 PM
Great group from a nice places to visit point of view.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 25, 2016, 07:43:34 PM
Going to have to be all over one of the others to qualify at odds against

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CquPqTfWIAAqP6a.jpg)

1/2 you'll be alright!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on August 25, 2016, 09:06:52 PM
Cpl tickets = Season ticket holders so I believe, fair or not?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on August 25, 2016, 09:39:23 PM
Going to have to be all over one of the others to qualify at odds against

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CquPqTfWIAAqP6a.jpg)

1/2 you'll be alright!

Love how the top seed in group E is the outsider to qualify from it.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 26, 2016, 10:44:06 AM
LCFC's group G fixtures:

14/09: Brugge (a)
27/09: Porto (h)
18/10: Copenhagen (h)
02/11: Copenhagen (a)
22/11: Brugge (h)
07/12: Porto (a)


september is fun

September:

Liverpool (A)
Club Brugge (A)
Burnley (H)
Chelsea (H)
Manchester United (A)
FC Porto (H)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 26, 2016, 11:15:08 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqw-T-BXEAA-_jH.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on August 26, 2016, 06:55:48 PM
I'd avoid Denmark.  Lovely city but unless you have money to burn it's pricey.  I've been to all 3 places before and Porto would be my choice of game to go to if you only made one. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on August 26, 2016, 06:59:00 PM
Porto stadium/atmosphere is going to be the best of the 3 by some distance as well i think.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on August 26, 2016, 07:06:42 PM
I've been lucky enough to go to all 3 places (Copenhagen and Porto for City, Brugge for a 2-4-1 mini cruise deal :) ) and yeah Porto is far and away the best of the 3; some great bars on the river and wasn't too expensive.

Copenhagen will be bollock freezing in November and there is no escaping the cost. Brugge would be fun but its not far away so perhaps not ideal from a prep point of view? I'm very jealous of this draw :(


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 26, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
Yes intending to go to Porto. The club is chartering flights which helps. Bruges is a bit soon but I have the euro season ticket and Eurostar to Brussels, local train down seems feasible.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on August 26, 2016, 07:15:11 PM
Yes intending to go to Porto. The club is chartering flights which helps. Bruges is a bit soon but I have the euro season ticket and Eurostar to Brussels, local train down seems feasible.

I have always found booking on own is cheapest. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: redsimon on August 26, 2016, 07:17:37 PM
LCFC's group G fixtures:

14/09: Brugge (a)
27/09: Porto (h)
18/10: Copenhagen (h)
02/11: Copenhagen (a)
22/11: Brugge (h)
07/12: Porto (a)


september is fun

September:

Liverpool (A)
Club Brugge (A)
Burnley (H)
Chelsea (H)
Manchester United (A)
FC Porto (H)



September 2008

Tue 30th September
L1  Colchester United   0  - 1    Leicester City   FT   

Sat 27th September
L1  Leicester City   1  - 0    Hartlepool United   FT   

Tue 23rd September
EFLT  Leicester City   0  - 0    Lincoln City   AET  Leicester win 3-1 on penalties   

Sat 20th September
L1  Leyton Orient   1  - 3    Leicester City   FT   

Sat 13th September
L1  Leicester City   0  - 1    Millwall   FT   

Tue 2nd September
EFLT  Hartlepool United   0  - 3    Leicester City   FT

Shows how far they've come!



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bergeroo on August 26, 2016, 07:55:16 PM
Went to Brugge v Birmingham a few years ago. Great city, great, lively intimidating atmosphere in the stadium, a bit at odds with the gentile and lovely town. Easy to get to on train or to drive. Seems like a great draw!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on August 26, 2016, 07:58:56 PM

You boys are doing it wrong. You need to appeal to Tighty's weakness.

Bruges Chocolate Museum will swing it, for sure.


 
http://choco-story-brugge.be/ENG/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on August 26, 2016, 08:20:46 PM
Yes intending to go to Porto. The club is chartering flights which helps. Bruges is a bit soon but I have the euro season ticket and Eurostar to Brussels, local train down seems feasible.

I have always found booking on own is cheapest. 

Yeah this, plus its much more fun this way. Should only use official trips as a last resort IMO.

Can always fly to Lisbon and get the train up :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on August 27, 2016, 09:27:01 PM
by all accounts we were more back to normal today. 2-0 up, missed a pen and won 2-1

Amartey in the enforcer role, and was apparently excellent.

--

in other news

Schmeichel has hernia surgery monday, out six weeks. a blow ahead of a hugely busy period

Sporting Portugal has lost its second star. Striker Islam Slimani has signed with Leicester. Fee agreed between clubs for €30m according to reports tonight


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 01, 2016, 09:13:07 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrNsAPIWAAA9E8n.jpg)

Islam Slimani: Only Jonas (32) has scored more goals in Liga NOS since the start of last season than Slimani (28)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on September 01, 2016, 06:40:53 PM
Tighty, can I pick your brain for Leicester knowledge? (the city, not the team)

Band playing at the o2 in November I'm 99% gonna travel down to see, and will have to stay the night. Decent hotels in reasonable (walking) proximity to the venue and also the train station? Don't wanna spend too much but equally don't wanna be in a shit tip :)

Cheers.



the Premier Inn is right next to the station, then ten minutes up the road to the university campus. fine for one night, mid market business/leisure hotel and v v convenient for everything

Leicester Central is the one you are looking for, there are several in leicester

http://www.premierinn.com/gb/en/hotels/england/leicestershire/leicester/leicester-central-a50.html

just down the road and a touch more expensive is the Ramada Encore. 3 mins to train station, 10-15 to the 02 walking.

http://www.leicestercitycentrehotel.com/

either is fine imo


the one visiting football teams stay at is the marriott out by the motorway, which is very plush. one of the good marriotts. far far less convenient for city centre stuff though

http://www.marriott.co.uk/hotels/travel/emalm-leicester-marriott-hotel/

Finally got round to booking this....glad I looked at the map before booking the linked Premier Inn, its about 3 miles away! Perhaps it was too good an opportunity to turn down to send me to the wrong hotel ;)

Booked the Leicester City Centre one, which is right by the station (and the one I assume you meant), and not the linked central one which is much further out. Very easy to mix those 2 up! Why on earth are there 4 Premier Inn's in Leicester?! Lenny Henry must be coining it in.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 01, 2016, 07:46:07 PM
yes i meant central, next to the station

if you like food, there is a really good mongolian restaurant just down granby st, beyond the sainsburys express thing you can see from the hotel


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on September 01, 2016, 07:47:48 PM
yes i meant central, next to the station

if you like food, there is a really good mongolian restaurant just down granby st, beyond the sainsburys express thing you can see from the hotel



He likes food. (Nap)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on September 01, 2016, 09:04:57 PM
yes i meant central, next to the station

if you like food, there is a really good mongolian restaurant just down granby st, beyond the sainsburys express thing you can see from the hotel



He likes food. (Nap)

Marv.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on September 11, 2016, 03:32:59 PM
Any observations from yesterdays game Rich ?

Big save from Mignolet at 2-1.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 11, 2016, 03:59:46 PM
a complete garbage performance

hopefully the end of trying to go to top sides and playing 2 in the middle with 2 wide men and 2 up. without Kante in there, who is hugely missed, we just cannot play compactly without the ball when so outnumbered

yet again Klopp did a number on mahrez, this time milner in front of moreno.

nothing against liverpool, deserved to win. looked hugely uncomfortable trying to pay out from the back, mignolet is not a distributor and they were never that convincing at centre back but  aside from that they pressed well, transitioned quickly and tore us apart

6 games in 21 games now including bruges, chelsea, man u and porto.

some brave tinkering needed.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on September 13, 2016, 12:54:32 AM
Ranieri to go before xmas ? Dilly ding dilly gone ?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DMorgan on September 13, 2016, 03:07:52 AM
Bit harsh after 4 games glen!

Didn't he re-sign for 5 years this summer?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on September 13, 2016, 09:38:08 AM
Bit harsh after 4 games glen!

Didn't he re-sign for 5 years this summer?

Probably:) just think the genial buffoon shtick doesn't go down so well when a team is struggling. Tbf. Only really been smashed by Liverpool and so were arsenal


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on September 15, 2016, 09:27:50 AM
(http://i64.tinypic.com/34gahjc.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on September 15, 2016, 09:30:50 AM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/30sx929.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 15, 2016, 11:35:42 AM
that was a good day and night

Bruges were very poor, probably no better than an average championship team on that performance (an off-night?)

what a beautiful city though.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsVoU0GWgAAPdwa.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsVnOBIWEAEhvqy.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsVyaIwWgAQD3Bi.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsV58PoWAAELdC0.jpg)


Porto at home in a fortnight, should be a cracking night. the small matter of Burnley, chelsea and man u first



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 15, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
statto alert

Leicester are 3rd English team to win on CL debut after Man U (1994) & Newcastle (1997). They are 1st English team to win away on CL debut


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on September 15, 2016, 01:19:54 PM
Did you have a ticket or were you watching from the city square?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 15, 2016, 01:29:51 PM
Did you have a ticket or were you watching from the city square?

ticket

coach, ferry, coach and back overnight with the club which involved paying a premium compared to doing it myself but was simpler organisationally

original plan was to get a ticket for the home areas as i thought i would struggle to get a ticket (but the arrangements are very strict, involving picking up your ticket in person in bruges, showing passport etc and again at the ground and no chance of getting away with being in a home area) so bit the bullet, queued up early a couple of weeks ago and the allocation just made my priority level

Copenhagen is sorted

Oporto is a pain in the neck but at the moment involves lisbon, the 2-3 hour train to porto and overnight transfer back

if after all this we end up in the europa league there might be more to do as well, but as its more than likely a one off european campaign its the only shot at doing it

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on September 15, 2016, 01:41:22 PM
Did you have a ticket or were you watching from the city square?

ticket

coach, ferry, coach and back overnight with the club which involved paying a premium compared to doing it myself but was simpler organisationally

original plan was to get a ticket for the home areas as i thought i would struggle to get a ticket (but the arrangements are very strict, involving picking up your ticket in person in bruges, showing passport etc and again at the ground and no chance of getting away with being in a home area) so bit the bullet, queued up early a couple of weeks ago and the allocation just made my priority level

Copenhagen is sorted

Oporto is a pain in the neck but at the moment involves lisbon, the 2-3 hour train to porto and overnight transfer back

if after all this we end up in the europa league there might be more to do as well, but as its more than likely a one off european campaign its the only shot at doing it

 

This was introduced at City mid way through last season. The first game was Kiev, of which demand was pretty low for it anyway due to, amongst various reasons, UEFA fucking us about yet again, so I assumed it was a one off measure considering the circumstances and to stop 'points whores' snapping up all the £5 tickets and then not going. Was wrong and its been the case for every Euro away since and will be the case going forward.

Caused a bit of a split with City fans, some thinking its a great move whilst others are not happy about it, coupled with the ballache of having to traipse across an unfamiliar city to get your ticket. The reason why it was introduced isn't clear, stopping the points whores seemed the obvious reason but apparently City wanted to keep a closer eye on who was attending these Euro away days.

Apparently Chelsea and united do it, it looks like you guys are doing it, so I guess its now the norm for the foreseeable for most clubs participating in Europe.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 15, 2016, 01:55:40 PM
my understanding (from the ticket office at leicester) was that it is UEFA mandated, that the arrangement is in place for all visiting supporters. you pick up your match ticket in the host city at a pre-agreed landmark type location on arrival, with a 5pm deadline to do so.

have to make special arrangements to pick them up at the ground if you can't make it for 5pm


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on September 15, 2016, 02:13:36 PM
my understanding (from the ticket office at leicester) was that it is UEFA mandated, that the arrangement is in place for all visiting supporters. you pick up your match ticket in the host city at a pre-agreed landmark type location on arrival, with a 5pm deadline to do so.

have to make special arrangements to pick them up at the ground if you can't make it for 5pm

I don't think that's the case, I'm sure visiting fans at City don't have to have to collect tickets from a hotel or anything like that. I think it's mostly something that English clubs have adopted, for whatever reason.

Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong! Perhaps UEFA in the process of rolling it out across the continent and we are the guinea pigs?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 18, 2016, 10:42:33 AM
That was a good week. We dispatched Burnley in the style of a good side and now our home record in the league since our run the year before last is

W17 D7 L1 Goals for 50 Goals against 20

Slimani looks a really good player. Obviously a strong target man but his link up play and deft touches were something you don't get from target men i've seen.

Scored two goals, and most important of all allows us to play a different way where this season teams are defending deeper and the counter-attacking style is more difficult to play

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CskHpRNWcAAreg4.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CskHpRFWcAAAYsf.jpg)

Tougher tests ahead. we'll play the squad in the league cup against chelsea on tuesday, and would expect to go out. Old Trafford next week and Porto at home the midweek after.

As for Burnley, a bit more ambition please. Dropped a striker, played 5 across the middle and really had nowhere to go once they went behind. That's now 4 shots on target in three games. I think there are bad teams in this division, don't really see the point of trying to defend 90 minutes when you are going to need to win some games to be clear of the relegation zone


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on September 18, 2016, 10:48:08 AM


Thought Slimani (sp?) looked very sharp, a real natural poacher. Mahrez was in fine form, too, what a handful he is. The link up play between the two was excellent, from what I saw. 

Your back-up keeper looked handy, too.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on September 18, 2016, 10:55:20 AM


Thought Slimani (sp?) looked very sharp, a real natural poacher. Mahrez was in fine form, too, what a handful he is. The link up play between the two was excellent, from what I saw. 



Must be a massive boost to a new signing to have a fellow countryman in the team.Pretty shrewd purchase in my opinion,looked pretty good.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Karabiner on September 18, 2016, 11:14:45 AM
Slimani did look good, but so did Musa in his first game.

What's happened to Musa?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 18, 2016, 11:18:41 AM
Slimani did look good, but so did Musa in his first game.

What's happened to Musa?

On the bench, looked good in his substitute appearances.

Last season i would have loved Musa next to Vardy with all the space we were given to play in on the counter

this season, with teams 15 yards deeper, not as effective (on a small sample of game time) a partnership as you might have thought

which is why i think slimani is an expensive but sensible purchase and why Musa looks like Vardy's back up/impact sub at this stage, but its a long season and we have a lot more games to play compatred to last year (hopefully) 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DungBeetle on September 18, 2016, 09:13:42 PM
That was a good week. We dispatched Burnley in the style of a good side and now our home record in the league since our run the year before last is

W17 D7 L1 Goals for 50 Goals against 20

Slimani looks a really good player. Obviously a strong target man but his link up play and deft touches were something you don't get from target men i've seen.

Scored two goals, and most important of all allows us to play a different way where this season teams are defending deeper and the counter-attacking style is more difficult to play

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CskHpRNWcAAreg4.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CskHpRFWcAAAYsf.jpg)

Tougher tests ahead. we'll play the squad in the league cup against chelsea on tuesday, and would expect to go out. Old Trafford next week and Porto at home the midweek after.

As for Burnley, a bit more ambition please. Dropped a striker, played 5 across the middle and really had nowhere to go once they went behind. That's now 4 shots on target in three games. I think there are bad teams in this division, don't really see the point of trying to defend 90 minutes when you are going to need to win some games to be clear of the relegation zone

We are at Burnley in the live game a week Monday.  Will be interesting to see how they approach it.  I assume they will go for it but it might be dangerous now we are in a bit of mild form and new players are bedding in well.  Haven't seen the odds yet but we should be favourites in my book.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 28, 2016, 11:17:09 AM
Last night was a good night. A real goosebumps moment as they played the Champions League music before the start and the atmosphere crackled

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtYb_VZWEAIx_-Z.jpg)

We've been inconsistent this season, really struggling away at the bigger teams in particular (in my opinion playing too open and having no plan B when our counter-attacking threat is removed) but last night was a bit more like it in terms of defensive solidity and one piece of Mahrez magic created a chance for Slimani who buried another header

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtYz1bZXEAAfVRZ.jpg)

It was my first sighting live of the infamous ref Cuneyt Cakir too who brandished yellow cards like confetti and generally reffed like Windsor Davies in It ain't half hot mum.

What I hadn't realised until being involved as a fan in the champions league is how controlling the whole organisation is. Clubs aren't allowed to wear club sponsor branding on training kit. All sponsors references have to be removed at the ground.

eg on the image below the club had to replace all the king power stadium stuff with leicester city stadium and for what end?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtYz1bBXgAQOEC6.jpg)


No fan displays before kick off. Notice in the programme not to boo the champions league anthem. Strangest of all possibly, clubs cannot display the minutes gone in the match on the plasma screens. Most odd

Anyway 2 wins out of 2 in the competition. Copenhagen at home next and Southampton at home on Sunday

Southampton have to go to Israel for thursday, and our home form is very good so all being well back on track in the league at the weekend

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on September 28, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Another terrific result. Was the match atmosphere good ?

Champions League home game , another one ticked off the bucket list Rich.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 28, 2016, 11:25:47 AM
Another terrific result. Was the match atmosphere good ?

Champions League home game , another one ticked off the bucket list Rich.

it was a good atmosphere, and it is for every game

Much derided at the time and clearly a bit artificial for some, they hand out clappers for every seat and these both create a din and double up to be held aloft for displays before the game, which look good

of course its not like the old days which is both good and bad but i do enjoy it when we score and the whole stadium shakes. sitting in the back rows you actually feel the stand flex slightly

 



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on September 28, 2016, 11:31:46 AM

^^^^

UEFA "demands".

Did you see the piece in The Times yesterday? Utterly fascinating.

I can't C & P it as it's behind a paywall, but it was an amazing piece.

Even the way the grass is cut, the width & length of the grass "cuts" & so on. Must be cut in straight lines, perpendicular to the touchline etc. 9 bands of grass in each half, 4 of which are at least 5.5 metres.

One toilet (with seat) for the Referee.

180 "Premium" car park spaces foe EUFA dignitaries & VIP's.

50 "comped" VIP seats & 330 "Best seats" for UEFA Partners & Guests.

What the Fox mascot can & cant wear. He may only be "slightly larger than a normal person". He must wear the Club's Champion's League kit including a "tail hole". (I kid you not).

Even the little boys & girls who come out on the pitch with the players. They must come out at 19.42 & 40 seconds, there must be 22 of them, between 7 & 9 years old, & between 1.05 & 1.35 metres tall.

The Home Club must give EUFA a match ball signed by the entire squad & coach, & one key players official home shirt.

And so on, 155 pages of that.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on September 28, 2016, 11:41:21 AM
i forgot the mascot one

our mascot is filbert the fox. in various guises has been around since the 80s

all bollocks obviously, but a popular figure

not allowed to be at the ground yesterday (first time i think in 35 years) as "too large"

of no importance at all but why the need for a rule like this?

(http://www.lcfc.com/cms_images/filbert-boots-large280-3078261_613x460.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on October 15, 2016, 06:06:15 PM
Dilly ding dilly honk

Leicester Tigers defence of their title parallels the Chelsea defence of theirs last year. To fun

Drinkwater for England anyone - whaffffff


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on October 15, 2016, 07:09:46 PM
Wes Morgan looks so so poor this year.

Poor Kasper getting a lot of practice.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: cambridgealex on October 15, 2016, 10:10:24 PM
Why did LFC fans boo Kante? Seems harsh considering what he did for them last year. Who can blame him for moving to a bigger club at his age?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on October 15, 2016, 10:13:21 PM
Wes Morgan looks so so poor this year.

Poor Kasper getting a lot of practice.

WM has been poor at elite EPL level for his whole career.  He just got lucky last year.  He was hardly tearing up the championship for years at Forest in his prime years.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Killerkilsby on October 15, 2016, 10:21:53 PM
Literally being shown up for what they are.

Even own players admit the fact they cant cheat (foul and hold in the box) stops them from defending.

I would lose a limb for them to get relegated. Think perfect follow up to the Hollywood film, bottom to top to bottom in 3 years.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: George2Loose on October 15, 2016, 11:53:31 PM
I don't understand the hatred toward Leicester Dan. Pretty harsh.

This was always going to be the case. Which is why last season is all the more special


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Doobs on October 15, 2016, 11:59:01 PM
I don't really see relegation happening.  They have had a fairly tough run of fixtures, and the next half dozen or so are going to be a fair bit easier.  I wouldn't be surprised if they were back in the top half this time next month.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on October 16, 2016, 03:54:39 AM
Why did LFC fans boo Kante? Seems harsh considering what he did for them last year. Who can blame him for moving to a bigger club at his age?

Run out of steam and got old quickly when they started to appreciate he has a million touches  per game. Was pretty funny..


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 17, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
Literally being shown up for what they are.

Even own players admit the fact they cant cheat (foul and hold in the box) stops them from defending.

I would lose a limb for them to get relegated. Think perfect follow up to the Hollywood film, bottom to top to bottom in 3 years.

I didn't see the game as i was working, but i must say is there really any need for this tone?

Last season was special, a complete one off and unfortunately i have been wincing a bit at some of this season

- off the field the whole supporter base is still revelling in last year. The manager is off on occasions accepting awards and opening museums etc. Vardy has a book out. Comes back from Slovenia and a day later is doing book signings having done press the week before. eyes are a bit off the ball

- the owners are reportedly prioritising the champions league for perception and cachet at home. So i didn't think too much of this, which i have heard around the place, until Ranieri rested Mahrez and Slimani at Chelsea for tomorrow night. Lets get to 40 points please, number one priority. Yes i know this champions league season is an opportunity and likely a one off one, but eyes again are a bit off the ball

- on the field, away from home we are easy to play through. Not a great deal to do with the new penalty box rules but just giving away bad goals, and an insistence on playing 4-4-2 against good teams away leaves us shorthanded in midfield.

- the run of away games has been tough. Lverpool, Man U and Chelsea

- home form is fine, but home fixtures have been easier Arsenal apart

- tactically teams have adapted, defending deeper and we've been playing in straight lines a bit, quite predictable

- absolutely nothing wrong with Drinkwater (nirvana). apparently best of a bad bunch at chelsea, been the best outfield player we've had all season but Amartey next to him is inconsistent. a couple of games we've thought "wow he's getting it" then the next game, out of position and clumsy.

but of the two issues off the field and on the field its the off the field that worries me more as it is affecting performances. lots of distractions, still. 


--

anyway to Mr Kilsby, who i think is from Leicester?, and any other trolls, lets do football sensibly please. Never been a place on here to ramp the banter up that much that it makes people uncomfortable reading it, as that post did


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: horseplayer on October 17, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
Hardly a massive surprise a back 4 containing Danny Simpson huth Morgan and fuchs is regressing to the mean


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 17, 2016, 05:40:27 PM
Hardly a massive surprise a back 4 containing Danny Simpson huth Morgan and fuchs is regressing to the mean

Simpson is underrated just as a nuts and bolts defender. Fuchs is fine too, and a real leader on and off the pitch. Will be replaced by Chilwell by next season as well who is going to be a good one

Morgan and Huth is a slightly different story. Morgan was a championship player who excelled last season with superb protection in front of him and in a very rigid tactical formation. This season the tactics are less consistent and obviously the protection is weaker, therefore a big drop off in form

Huth has been a brilliant signing but is nearer the end than not and with less stability next to him has also been exposed

the problems are in the middle not out wide though.   


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on October 17, 2016, 05:49:35 PM
Might be a bit harsh on drinkwater but if he was the best player yr in more trouble than is obvious. Tbf. The problem was there was no one really more creative to give it to and he was overrun anyway. You take mahrez and Kante out of last year's team and it's bound to be tough tho.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 17, 2016, 06:04:23 PM
Might be a bit harsh on drinkwater but if he was the best player yr in more trouble than is obvious. Tbf. The problem was there was no one really more creative to give it to and he was overrun anyway. You take mahrez and Kante out of last year's team and it's bound to be tough tho.

don't disagree. i think i have said on numerous occasions variations of can't play 2 in midfield away at the good teams with the current personel we have, and we keep doing it

then Mahrez is on the bench (at times his head has been in the clouds this year too), so is Slimani.

Musa is played and i gather looks a shadow of the player he looked at times in pre-season and wants to make the same runs as Vardy. so its all pretty one dimensional

if it means playing 3 in midfield and sacrificing something elsewhere then so be it.   


--
anyway, Copenhagen at home tomorrow night. all good for the next 48 hours whatever the result


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Killerkilsby on October 17, 2016, 07:43:15 PM
I don't understand the hatred toward Leicester Dan. Pretty harsh.

This was always going to be the case. Which is why last season is all the more special

I think the hatred came from the sheer level of abuse I got (not on here at all btw) from Leicester fans last year. And the fact that up until 6 minths before Id never heard them mention Leicester, was all Top 4 fans that suddenly converted. So my facebook status etc is literally there to cause a reaction as is a little tongue in cheek.

Anyways point taken abit harsh on here.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on October 19, 2016, 10:19:57 AM

So, how was your evening, Tighty? (The football part).

Good atmo? Fair result?

Is it true that EUFA insisted you play at "Leicester City Stadium", not King Power?

The rumours suggest the players all had a heart to heart on Sunday, any truth in that, & was it evident last night?

Palace next up, at home. No easy games, eh?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 19, 2016, 10:25:09 AM

So, how was your evening, Tighty? (The football part).

Good atmo? Fair result?

Is it true that EUFA insisted you play at "Leicester City Stadium", not King Power?

The rumours suggest the players all had a heart to heart on Sunday, any truth in that, & was it evident last night?

Palace next up, at home. No easy games, eh?

UEFA have a series of rules, pages of them

not allowed to display "King Power" anywhere so all the stadium signage needs to be changed, inside and out for each European game

not allowed to wear black armbands (death of king of Thailand)

etc etc

Schmeichel said the players called a squad meeting yes


The game itself, Copenhagen were stubborn opponents and we aren't really in great form but it was a steady enough performance

Obviously a very weak group, but only one win away from winning it


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 19, 2016, 10:28:16 AM
so this happened

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEqkG-WgAAPo0V.jpg)

the home team is fined, even though its the way fans flaring.....

how they got them in when everyone is patted down before going in, don't know



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 19, 2016, 10:28:48 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvE74yRWYAAG8gL.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 19, 2016, 10:29:23 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvFJxSZWAAAYz1x.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 19, 2016, 10:29:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvFC-lMXgAEuysN.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: superwomble on October 19, 2016, 10:33:46 AM
so this happened

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEqkG-WgAAPo0V.jpg)

the home team is fined, even though its the way fans flaring.....

how they got them in when everyone is patted down before going in, don't know



I'm sure no bottles with lids on got sneaked in though!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on October 19, 2016, 10:35:28 AM

So, how was your evening, Tighty? (The football part).

Good atmo? Fair result?

Is it true that EUFA insisted you play at "Leicester City Stadium", not King Power?

The rumours suggest the players all had a heart to heart on Sunday, any truth in that, & was it evident last night?

Palace next up, at home. No easy games, eh?

UEFA have a series of rules, pages of them

not allowed to display "King Power" anywhere so all the stadium signage needs to be changed, inside and out for each European game


not allowed to wear black armbands (death of king of Thailand)

etc etc

Schmeichel said the players called a squad meeting yes


The game itself, Copenhagen were stubborn opponents and we aren't really in great form but it was a steady enough performance

Obviously a very weak group, but only one win away from winning it

What do Arsenal do in home CL games then - it's surely impossible to hide the Emirates branding?



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Skippy on October 20, 2016, 11:06:11 AM

So, how was your evening, Tighty? (The football part).

Good atmo? Fair result?

Is it true that EUFA insisted you play at "Leicester City Stadium", not King Power?

The rumours suggest the players all had a heart to heart on Sunday, any truth in that, & was it evident last night?

Palace next up, at home. No easy games, eh?

UEFA have a series of rules, pages of them

not allowed to display "King Power" anywhere so all the stadium signage needs to be changed, inside and out for each European game


not allowed to wear black armbands (death of king of Thailand)

etc etc

Schmeichel said the players called a squad meeting yes


The game itself, Copenhagen were stubborn opponents and we aren't really in great form but it was a steady enough performance

Obviously a very weak group, but only one win away from winning it

What do Arsenal do in home CL games then - it's surely impossible to hide the Emirates branding?



I guess it's because King Power "compete" with Gazprom, or some other sponsor? Maybe there is no official Champions League airline?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 20, 2016, 11:35:53 AM

So, how was your evening, Tighty? (The football part).

Good atmo? Fair result?

Is it true that EUFA insisted you play at "Leicester City Stadium", not King Power?

The rumours suggest the players all had a heart to heart on Sunday, any truth in that, & was it evident last night?

Palace next up, at home. No easy games, eh?

UEFA have a series of rules, pages of them

not allowed to display "King Power" anywhere so all the stadium signage needs to be changed, inside and out for each European game


not allowed to wear black armbands (death of king of Thailand)

etc etc

Schmeichel said the players called a squad meeting yes


The game itself, Copenhagen were stubborn opponents and we aren't really in great form but it was a steady enough performance

Obviously a very weak group, but only one win away from winning it

What do Arsenal do in home CL games then - it's surely impossible to hide the Emirates branding?



I guess it's because King Power "compete" with Gazprom, or some other sponsor? Maybe there is no official Champions League airline?

King Power is a duty free company, but i get your point, it could well be competing with a UEFA sponsor


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on October 21, 2016, 12:49:58 AM
so this happened

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEqkG-WgAAPo0V.jpg)

the home team is fined, even though its the way fans flaring.....

how they got them in when everyone is patted down before going in, don't know



Charges dropped.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TheDazzler on October 21, 2016, 01:39:28 AM
so this happened

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEqkG-WgAAPo0V.jpg)

the home team is fined, even though its the way fans flaring.....

how they got them in when everyone is patted down before going in, don't know





Charges dropped.

While you're there, what happened on that fine Celtic got for fans waving Palestinian flags when they played an Israeli side? I think the fans raised more than the cost of the fine and sent it to Palestinian charities?
I think the reason you got fined was the 'political nature' of the event?
Well didn't Barca have lots of Catalan flags at the City game (and presumably at lots of games)? Catalan independence is a hot political potatoe in Spain. Were they fined?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on October 21, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
so this happened

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEqkG-WgAAPo0V.jpg)

the home team is fined, even though its the way fans flaring.....

how they got them in when everyone is patted down before going in, don't know





Charges dropped.

While you're there, what happened on that fine Celtic got for fans waving Palestinian flags when they played an Israeli side? I think the fans raised more than the cost of the fine and sent it to Palestinian charities?
I think the reason you got fined was the 'political nature' of the event?
Well didn't Barca have lots of Catalan flags at the City game (and presumably at lots of games)? Catalan independence is a hot political potatoe in Spain. Were they fined?

Don't think Barca were charged or fined. Not 100% sure though.

Celtic were fined around 10k, and the fans raised over 100k last I saw. It's not really something I get too involved in, so sorry if the answers are a bit vague. Moenchengladbech were lighting flares at Celtic on Wednesday night, be interesting to see what happens there.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on October 21, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
so this happened

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEqkG-WgAAPo0V.jpg)

the home team is fined, even though its the way fans flaring.....

how they got them in when everyone is patted down before going in, don't know





Charges dropped.

While you're there, what happened on that fine Celtic got for fans waving Palestinian flags when they played an Israeli side? I think the fans raised more than the cost of the fine and sent it to Palestinian charities?
I think the reason you got fined was the 'political nature' of the event?
Well didn't Barca have lots of Catalan flags at the City game (and presumably at lots of games)? Catalan independence is a hot political potatoe in Spain. Were they fined?

Don't think Barca were charged or fined. Not 100% sure though.

Celtic were fined around 10k, and the fans raised over 100k last I saw. It's not really something I get too involved in, so sorry if the answers are a bit vague. Moenchengladbech were lighting flares at Celtic on Wednesday night, be interesting to see what happens there.

Think he was hoping for a reply from a real Celtic fan, someone like Rod Paradise.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: PokerBroker on October 21, 2016, 07:01:32 PM
In the end UEFA bottle it and fined Celtic 10k euro.  That will teach us not to show solidarity with oppressed people. 

In the end over £170k was raised for 2 Palestinian Charities was raised.  Things are ongoing, I am expecting deliver of badges soon in the form of "Fans Against Apartheid" which will be added to the funds raised on the Go Fund Me page,  there has also been a production of t-shirts and polo shirts. 

__________________________

13th October update - Final 24 hours for donations

I'd like to apologise for taking so long to provide an update, things have been moving along at a hectic pace since this page was launched.

In the end, Celtic FC were fined €10,000 (£8,619) by UEFA, a smaller amount than 2 years ago for the same offence. The cynic in me suggests that the publicity of this campaign played a large part in that. What started out as a fan led initiative in exposing the hypocrisy of UEFA's "no politics in football" mantra quickly spiralled into a viral, worldwide campaign which as of this morning has raised £173 495 to be split between two charities who provide crucial services to the Palestinian people.

I would like to thank everyone who has shared this page all over social media, to those who have donated no matter what the amount, public figures who have donated prizes to the campaign to raise funds and who have brought it worldwide audiences like Pink Floyds Roger Waters.

Donations will officially cease at 11pm on Friday the 14th of October(UK time) so you have a little over 24 hours to get the word out and bring in more donations.

In regards to the handover of the money, after discussing with all parties, MAP will be withdrawing all the funds (minus GFM fees) directly from the account and will distribute an equal half to Lajee.

As mentioned in my previous update representatives of Lajee have applied for Visa's to come to Glasgow to formally accept the money with a cheque handover. As with most Palestinians visas are extremely hard to obtain and we are working to resolve this as soon as possible. We are looking to organise a small ceremony outside Celtic Park before a home game in the next month or so where both MAP and Lajee will be presented with cheques outside of the stadium. Once we have final details they will be posted on this page and all relevant social media platforms and hope you will join us in celebrating this great campaign.

For now, let’s get #matchthefineforpalestine trending again and bring in as much as we can over the next 24 hours!




Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 23, 2016, 12:30:05 PM
Yesterday was a bit more like it

Interesting team rotation that saw Vardy and Albrighton on the bench

Musa out wide and Okazaki behind Slimani

He might have stumbled on something here because Okazaki played deeper than either wide player so effectively the formation was 4-2-3-1 and it really helped

Drinkwater and King completely dominated midfield (Ledley sitting behind Cabaye and McArthur) despite theoretically being a man short because Okazaki was often in there to help

Now the trick will be to do it away from home, and produce some points there to go along with the excellent home form that has seen us a year unbeaten/23 matches at home

Tottenham away next week, so another big test, followed by Copenhagen away the midweek after.

With rotation now to the fore, it will be interesting to see who plays where

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvYhRIQWIAIWGMt.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvYeJr-XYAYS0PA.jpg)



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on October 23, 2016, 01:01:33 PM

Been very impressed with this Slimani chap. Given you an extra dimension, imo.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 27, 2016, 03:03:24 PM
this is an excellent read, in a US column

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/christian-fuchs-live-from-leicester-fuching-city/


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on October 31, 2016, 01:15:54 PM
an encouraging draw at Spurs

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv8rPelXEAAwxB0.jpg)

finally playing with more stucture and solidity, coinciding with Okazaki playing support striker and dropping back to help in midfield without the ball

comedy penalty decision against us, but Huth and co aren't going to get many benefits of the doubt of course so understandable enough

Off to Copenhagen Wednesday morning. Slightly more expensive than when booked!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 20, 2016, 12:52:51 PM
I haven't been to a game since i last posted

Had to call off Copenhagen at the last minute due to a family hospitalisation and for the same reason missed a home loss to WBA and didn't buy a ticket in time for yesterday with other things on my mind.

Form is worrying. Patterns of play (from hearsay) seem non-existent and hopes of a top ten finish are being replaced by looking over our shoulder.

Some of it is clear to see. We miss Kante dreadfully and he still refuses to go three in midfield away from home. Teams are defending deeper against us and we are nowhere near as threatening with the ball and time to play (quite a few games see us with over 50% possession now) rather than quick breaks and the counter.

over and above that the form ahead of the champions league games is particularly dreadful. P4 D1 L3. I have mentioned before that some of the CL stuff around the club has been strange. Almost a pre-occupation and over-concentration on those games and results in them ( and fans obsessed by the competition, and almost ecstatic that were are topping a very weak group ), really to the detriment of league performances

Anyway, Bruges at home on tuesday. Hopefully wrap up qualification against a side with no points so far and begin to try to turn that league form round. not going to be easy, the blueprint to playing us is firmly established and Middlesborough next weekend are the sort of team very capable of doing a job on us

   


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2016, 10:52:30 AM
so, in amongst the poor league perfromances, we won a very weak Champions league group a game early

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx5bi2cW8AA6UUp.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx5anVFXUAA47wm.jpg)

and played well for spells too

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx5dv2dWQAAyeIA.jpg)

The top two wage spenders in each Champions League group are through or on course to go through. Apart from Tottenham.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx5kJSzWgAA7qcy.jpg)

and we have something to look forward to. Any of monaco,leverkusen, a madrid team, PSG, benfica, sevilla in the last 16 in the new year.

now to pick up some league points 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on November 23, 2016, 11:33:34 AM
 ‏@BigSportGB 22h22 hours ago

Weirdest stat of the season:

Mahrez has completed just 1 pass to Vardy in the PL since September 17th.

1 pass in 356 minutes of football…




WTF?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2016, 11:50:29 AM
‏@BigSportGB 22h22 hours ago

Weirdest stat of the season:

Mahrez has completed just 1 pass to Vardy in the PL since September 17th.

1 pass in 356 minutes of football…




WTF?

He doesn't pass much to anyone! in addition with teams playing deeper against us, they have been fewer runs in behind from Vardy to look to find him too. Still, a remarkable statistic

that said when he was taken off last night, it immediately freed up the Bruges wide midfielder to be more active going forward. previously he'd been on double up duty to help his full back


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on November 23, 2016, 11:55:34 AM
‏@BigSportGB 22h22 hours ago

Weirdest stat of the season:

Mahrez has completed just 1 pass to Vardy in the PL since September 17th.

1 pass in 356 minutes of football…




WTF?

He doesn't pass much to anyone! in addition with teams playing deeper against us, they have been fewer runs in behind from Vardy to look to find him too. Still, a remarkable statistic

that said when he was taken off last night, it immediately freed up the Bruges wide midfielder to be more active going forward. previously he'd been on double up duty to help his full back

How much do you think Mahrez would have been sold for in the summer?

And how much will you get for him when he's inevitably sold next summer?

I think those two figures will be quite a lot different.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2016, 12:15:11 PM
We would have got £30-40m

would far rather he had gone than Kante, who really held our back seven together without the ball

you'd think his value has fallen a bit this year but he's extended his contract with it is said a hefty release clause if we don't make the CL again (lol, need to win it then) so i expect the value when all is said and done to be similar given he's still only 25 years old


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: The Camel on November 23, 2016, 01:20:03 PM
We would have got £30-40m

would far rather he had gone than Kante, who really held our back seven together without the ball

you'd think his value has fallen a bit this year but he's extended his contract with it is said a hefty release clause if we don't make the CL again (lol, need to win it then) so i expect the value when all is said and done to be similar given he's still only 25 years old

Didn't realise he'd extended.

Just thought Vardy and Mahrez combined would have fetched over 60m in the summer.

Be doing well if they are worth much more than half of that now.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2016, 01:24:16 PM
Vardy is 30 next year and "system dependent" (you need to play to his strengths, and not many teams do, especially bigger teams) . His value has fallen much more than Mahrez's, in my opinion, who will create and assist (and quite possibly kick on when surrounded by better players, as he'll have more space) and is five years younger

understand totally lcfc not wanting to sell either last year. extended both to ensure that if we only get one more year (this season) from both we'll at least get some value from both.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on November 27, 2016, 12:31:08 AM
Ranieri or relegation


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 27, 2016, 11:48:56 AM
Ranieri or relegation

is there meant to be a question mark after this? if so, i will take Ranieri please

if there is not meant to be a question mark, then you've done something new for me after 2.1m posts on blonde, a three word post that i don't understand at all.

still, almost as nonsensical as the man who rang 606 last night and said he would replace Ranieri with Pearson.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on November 27, 2016, 12:30:22 PM
Can Ranieri even put his head in the sand?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on November 27, 2016, 10:28:56 PM
Is the booing justified?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on November 27, 2016, 10:34:37 PM
Is the booing justified?

Yes, I think there should probably be more


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on November 28, 2016, 11:06:34 AM
Is the booing justified?

football fans are fickle, and have short memories

i wasn't booing, but league performances aren't good and he has a couple of big issues to resolve

we haven't adapted at all to teams trying to stop us, rather than last season where very few seemed to (Klopp at Anfield was a notable exception). Week after week we see teams double up on Mahrez and defend fifteen yards deeper against us than last season. It's working too, as service to Vardy is minimal and he has no space in behind for the channel balls that he caused havoc with last year

We persist in playing 2 in midfield against 3 opponents when we can't counter as we did last season because a) we aren't winning the ball to transition quickly into attack and b) there's no space in behind anyway . Drinkwater is currently suspended, and we're expecting King and Amartey to do what drinkwater and kante did last season. Which is optimistic

A lot of hope is being put on the january transfer window, and bringing in  reinforcements at central midfield and centre back but whether the likes of Sporting's Adrien Silva, who wanted to come with Slimani in August, is still up for it i don't know

and we miss 5 players for AFCON month in January

So no, no booing from me but some frustration is certainly about.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: exstream on December 04, 2016, 03:24:34 AM
So you need a manager that can adapt? Or be relegated


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 08, 2016, 11:03:08 AM
so we might as well draw Bayern or Real and have a great trip we are unlikely to have again, because we aren't winning any of these...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzGtUkuXUAIJ7j5.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on December 08, 2016, 12:57:42 PM
Seville. Great little city, will be sunny in Feb/March (was early 20s when I saw City there last November), beers costing 1E a half with loads of places to drink, cheap accommodation (£35 for a twin room in a nice central hotel), stadium a short walk from the city centre so no fucking about with public transport, obv won't be an easy tie but I wouldn't say Leicester couldn't do them over 2 legs.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on December 08, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
Something to look forward to come what may..wouldn't mind a trip to any of those ..even leverkusen.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 11, 2016, 11:01:57 AM
I was watching on television (unavoidably) and feared the worst

4-4-2 against Man C? will we ever get the ball? how will we protect the back 4?

then i saw City line up with a back 3 with one centre back and a left back Kolarov who i knew lacked pace and on his last visit to our patch played most of the match as a left wing, meaning it was basically two at the back. Zabaleta appeared to be  playing some undefined position almost like an old fashioned half-back, and before i had a chance to be more optimistic we were two up

i was staggered at Man C's approach.

Team after team this season has defended deep against us and cramped the space in behind for Vardy to run onto.

Team after team has double marked Mahrez thinking that our other players could not beat them (correctly)

and the visitors yesterday seemed to turn up with none of this, indeed without any tactics when they were without the ball whatsoever and we made hay

this doesn't necessarily represent a turning point, because sure enough there will be no space in behind come Bournemouth on tuesday but it was nice to see us able to play the style that was so successful last season, for once

thought this was a fun stat

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzWsAwyWEAAg_JP.jpg)

and this from the press conference, about the fact his side hadn't made a tackle in the first 30 mins:

Guardiola "I am not a coach for tackles."

well i tell you what, for a game in the pouring rain against an opponent with their backs to the wall, it might be time to start Pep

for us, Schmeichel and Drinkwater back Tuesday. lets see if this is a flash in the pan.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on December 11, 2016, 12:39:17 PM
The stat that amazed me when it flashed up maybe 30 mins in.....Leicester had made something like 53 passes and were 3 up, we'd done more than 4 times that amount (222 I think it was) but hadn't even mustered an attempt on target. Talk about going nowhere fast.

Jesus can't come quick enough!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on December 11, 2016, 12:42:38 PM
BIG win for LCFC.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on December 11, 2016, 12:55:55 PM
And 78% percentage


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 12, 2016, 12:20:33 PM
Sevilla then

could have been a lot worse, and a lovely city to visit too

something to look forward to (ticket allocation permitting)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 12, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
sparing a thought for PSG

there is us and Barcelona left

Sevilla gets one, PSG gets the other

Unlucky :-)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on December 12, 2016, 12:36:03 PM
Sevilla then

could have been a lot worse, and a lovely city to visit too

something to look forward to (ticket allocation permitting)

Try and go, even if you can't get a ticket. Slightly different circumstance but I really loved it there.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2016, 11:21:57 AM
African footballer of the year

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzfjPy4WEAAHWYS.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2016, 11:24:03 AM
direct flights gatwick to Seville doubled in price yesterday

so time for some investigation

ended up East Mids to Malaga for £35 return.

2 hour bus is £18 one way down the coast, then back the next morning

seville b and b booked (i say b and b, its a 14th century renaissance palace for £55 a room per night)

now just need a match ticket!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on December 13, 2016, 12:15:39 PM
I flew to Madrid then got a fast train to Seville from there. Can't remember how long it took but don't remember it being too long.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on December 13, 2016, 09:14:38 PM
Cracking city, you'll have a great time. Very fond (winning!) memories of City there November '15.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: flushthemout on December 13, 2016, 11:01:17 PM
More expensive to get Bournmouth :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2016, 02:09:48 PM
More expensive to get Bournmouth :)

i was only watching on a live stream.

Bournemouth defended well and play some tidy stuff. Up to 8th i see, and improving season on season in so far as i can tell.

Same old problems for us. Midfield playing a 4-4-2 neither protecting the back four enough or creating much going forward. Away form is terrible

Stoke away on Saturday, which isn't any easier.

Schmeichel back will help, his understudy isn't the organiser he is.

Drinkwater has a swollen knee, and is missed desperately


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Rod Paradise on December 14, 2016, 02:35:36 PM
Sevilla then

could have been a lot worse, and a lovely city to visit too

something to look forward to (ticket allocation permitting)

Try and go, even if you can't get a ticket. Slightly different circumstance but I really loved it there.

Was going to say the same thing.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Rod Paradise on December 14, 2016, 02:37:00 PM
direct flights gatwick to Seville doubled in price yesterday

so time for some investigation

ended up East Mids to Malaga for £35 return.

2 hour bus is £18 one way down the coast, then back the next morning

seville b and b booked (i say b and b, its a 14th century renaissance palace for £55 a room per night)

now just need a match ticket!

Another good way there is via the Algarve, not a bad drive over.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 14, 2016, 02:38:10 PM
direct flights gatwick to Seville doubled in price yesterday

so time for some investigation

ended up East Mids to Malaga for £35 return.

2 hour bus is £18 one way down the coast, then back the next morning

seville b and b booked (i say b and b, its a 14th century renaissance palace for £55 a room per night)

now just need a match ticket!

Another good way there is via the Algarve, not a bad drive over.

Thanks

Faro or Malaga is 2 hours away, so either is fine and plenty more flights from plenty more places than seville direct


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on December 16, 2016, 06:36:16 PM
An alternative route Tighty is Gatwick - Almeria and then you can get a direct flight from Almeria - Seville?

I've used Almeria airport and it's quite small but new. Very easy to get round and an overnight there will be cheap as chips that time of year.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 17, 2016, 05:54:07 PM
A great point that

2-0 down at half time with 10 men, apparently really good second half. Demarai gray deserves more game time, helped change the game today

interested to see the red card and penalty decisions later, both very controversial it is said


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: T8MML on December 17, 2016, 06:09:37 PM
A great point that

2-0 down at half time with 10 men, apparently really good second half. Demarai gray deserves more game time, helped change the game today

interested to see the red card and penalty decisions later, both very controversial it is said

I watched the entire game mate - the Vardy sending off was questionable. He went in two footed, got the ball and didn't touch another player??? Then the ref gave a few shocking decisions and had his yellow card in his hand more than his pocket. The boys just lost the plot and I was glad to see halftime before we lost another player. Then Ranieri went ballistic at the ref and Kasper dragged him away.

Whatever he said at halftime and they calmed down and went to work. The subs played well and I agree totally with the Gray comments. Certainly he is contributing more than Mahrez this season. At least we proved yet again that even with 12 against 10 we are a far better team than Stoke can ever dream to be!!

I hope we both get boots for Xmas because with all the suspensions we might get a call. I


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on December 17, 2016, 07:29:05 PM
Same as Tim for me. Launched himself at the ball while running with glen johnson close to him. Both feet left the ground but studs weren't up and he got the ball. Be surprised if it isnt overturned.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 18, 2016, 12:21:56 PM
what did other neutrals think of it?

he was pushed by glen johnson, tried to adjust his position mid tackle on the way to the floor, kept one foot on the floor and got the ball

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz6FN0cWgAIfZsu.jpg)

any grounds for an appeal? or by the letter of the law is the red fair?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on December 18, 2016, 12:26:29 PM
Ref made a reasonable decision, IMO.

Looked dangerous. He had two feet active in the process of tackling and had no control.

I think reds should only be rescinded if the ref has made a clear mistake. Like the "umpire's call" discretion area in cricket.

I don't think he made a bad decision here. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 18, 2016, 12:27:59 PM
Ref made a reasonable decision, IMO.

Looked dangerous. He had two feet active in the process of tackling and had no control.

I think reds should only be rescinded if the ref has made a clear mistake. Like the "umpire's call" discretion area in cricket.

I don't think he made a bad decision here. 

ok i understand he was out of control

he was out of control because he was pushed from behind, which i don't think the ref saw.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on December 18, 2016, 12:29:18 PM
Ref made a reasonable decision, IMO.

Looked dangerous. He had two feet active in the process of tackling and had no control.

I think reds should only be rescinded if the ref has made a clear mistake. Like the "umpire's call" discretion area in cricket.

I don't think he made a bad decision here.  

ok i understand he was out of control

he was out of control because he was pushed from behind, which i don't think the ref saw.

True, but he still made the decision to go for the ball. That created the danger.

He's a footballer so he's always going to go for the ball. I get that. But he wasn't pushed into the tackle.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 18, 2016, 12:32:08 PM
interesting, i thought he was. Am trying to seperate level-headedness from bias!


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on December 18, 2016, 12:41:28 PM
interesting, i thought he was. Am trying to seperate level-headedness from bias!

The photo you posted is telling:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz6FN0cWgAIfZsu.jpg)

Vardy's body position is leaning left, owing to the push he got from his right shoulder. He wasn't pushed from behind and bundled into a tackle. He's reaching for the ball, by stretching his legs forward and right.

FWIW I would not be surprised if it were rescinded. I would disagree with the decision.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: rinswun on December 18, 2016, 12:59:44 PM
I thought it was a fair call which was highlighted due to two previously awful decisions on Rojo. Taken on its merits I thought it was the correct decision.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on December 18, 2016, 01:17:40 PM
I'm not a fan of vardy. I don't know why.

But if that's a red then football is doomed.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: booder on December 18, 2016, 02:18:23 PM
Not a red for me but i can see why it was given.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on December 18, 2016, 03:02:21 PM
Great analysis of it on Goals on Sunday.

From the ref's position - 2 feet of the ground, reckless and out of control. Looking at their clips it is hard to disagree and technically a red card. But one of those if not given there are no complaints either and sympathy from me personally compared to the horrors, say, United have got away with in the last couple of matches or so. Rojo onviously should have been off twice and Ibra violent conduct again yesterday.

GOS also  put a case for the defence and also sympathy for Vardy because Johnson wraps his arm round Vardy and his body position forces Vardy's legs into the air. But still a red card!

A nightmare week for Pawson and I see he has got Liverpool v City on NYE. Howard Webb reckons he should be pulled from that game.








Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: DMorgan on December 18, 2016, 03:15:31 PM
You can see why the ref would see it as a dangerous tackle but Diouf sees him coming and doesn't make any attempt to move

Feels pretty tough to get a straight red there but at the same time tough on the ref to rescind it, just a really marginal situation that could have gone either way

Once it started to kick off before half time he was probably nailed on to pick up a second yellow anyway ;)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on December 18, 2016, 05:19:56 PM
Great analysis of it on Goals on Sunday.


Call.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 19, 2016, 10:32:09 AM
Leicester City are to appeal the red card shown to Jamie Vardy in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Stoke City.

the FA are likely to seek comments from both clubs regarding alleged coin-throwing by fans at the game on Saturday.

(there is nothing alleged about it, the away fans threw coins. its a quirk of ice station Britannia that the tunnel is right in the corner slap bang next to the away fans, who were stoked up. no excuse for throwing coins, and pretty harsh if stoke get done as well as lcfc really)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 19, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
about the appeal. odds against to win it, i think but even if he has an extra game added for a failed appeal, that would be the FA Cup 3rd round so no further league impact and maybe worth a shot.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on December 19, 2016, 11:08:22 PM
Great analysis of it on Goals on Sunday.


Call.

Did you watch it?

IMO they do the analysis of controversial decisions very well on GOS. Good editors, time to analyse all angles etc


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on December 19, 2016, 11:22:57 PM
Great analysis of it on Goals on Sunday.


Call.

Did you watch it?

IMO they do the analysis of controversial decisions very well on GOS. Good editors, time to analyse all angles etc

Yes. It's the same, fundamentally subjective assessment you get on most magazine shows: adding an offside line and a few slow motion angles doesn't change that. And it's done at such a slow pace.

You get analysis like theirs five seconds after a play live in the NFL.

Monday Night Football is better. I do enjoy that.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 20, 2016, 05:10:09 PM
Vardy appeal rejected. Not surprised, so on we go.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Archer on December 20, 2016, 08:15:46 PM
Great analysis of it on Goals on Sunday.


Call.

Did you watch it?

IMO they do the analysis of controversial decisions very well on GOS. Good editors, time to analyse all angles etc

Yes. It's the same, fundamentally subjective assessment you get on most magazine shows: adding an offside line and a few slow motion angles doesn't change that. And it's done at such a slow pace.

You get analysis like theirs five seconds after a play live in the NFL.

Monday Night Football is better. I do enjoy that.

Yes MNF is generally better but for me GOS > MOTD or SKY/BT post-match analysis for specific  incidents albeit Kamara is a buffoon. Thinking about it I like it because they provide full detail to allow me to form my own view.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: vegaslover on December 20, 2016, 11:21:51 PM
Vardy appeal rejected. Not surprised, so on we go.

Not surprised it was rejected but ffs, if that's a red than Barclay should have had a couple last night


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 26, 2016, 02:45:28 PM
utterly ridiculous

at the king power this afternoon there are 30,000 of these, one per seat, to "protest" about the vardy suspension!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0my_tDWgAAakV5.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bergeroo on December 26, 2016, 02:48:09 PM
Chilwell playing today? Looking forward to seeing him if he starts ahead of Schlupp?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 26, 2016, 02:55:44 PM
hopefully chilwell. proper left back and has had to be patient with fuchs in such consistent form

schlupp is off to west brom in Jan. they want to play £12m+ for him, which i would think we should take this time and re-invest


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Tal on December 26, 2016, 03:00:03 PM
utterly ridiculous

at the king power this afternoon there are 30,000 of these, one per seat, to "protest" about the vardy suspension!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0my_tDWgAAakV5.jpg)

FA charge inevitable surely?

It's tantamount to dissent. Like you say, ridiculous.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: pleno1 on December 26, 2016, 03:48:40 PM
Imagine you get to work as normal, "we need you to put a Jamie Vardy mask on every single chair in the ground" I'd have to hand in my resignation.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on December 28, 2016, 04:20:59 PM
Unflattering mask or does he need to invest in some Just For Men?


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: celtic on December 28, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Imagine you get to work as normal, "we need you to put a Jamie Vardy mask on every single chair in the ground" I'd have to hand in my resignation.

Not if it was your only source of income you wouldn't.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2016, 06:00:47 PM
Phew. Important win

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1A_QnZWIAExuVg.jpg)

switched to 4-2-3-1

really happy to see Demari Gray and Chilwell retain their places too


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 01, 2017, 10:47:57 AM
automatic red?

yellow given!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1BPq7pWgAAtAVZ.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Ironside on January 01, 2017, 04:37:57 PM
I wouldn't have booked him , guy had his foot off the ground , surely that can't be expected as your running along, in fact I might have warned the west ham player as foot is slightly high


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: bagel on January 01, 2017, 05:15:46 PM
what planet is demarai gray on ?

why on earth would you post your recreational drug taking on social media?

obviously out of his tiny mind





Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2017, 06:44:21 PM
what planet is demarai gray on ?

why on earth would you post your recreational drug taking on social media?

obviously out of his tiny mind

That's generally the plan when you get the drugs out :D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 02, 2017, 11:57:57 AM
what planet is demarai gray on ?

why on earth would you post your recreational drug taking on social media?

obviously out of his tiny mind





obviously stupid/naive. not the sharpest tool in the box and a concern has been that his group of friends is full of wrong uns. his best mate is jack grealish, with whom Villa have had behavioural problems.

no different though than Sterling, Kyle Walker, Berahino who were all pictured taking it.

very very talented young player now breaking into the team (and will be for the next month with Mahrez at the AFCON) hopefully he takes the bollocking that has been given.

 



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2017, 06:09:05 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1QukntWIAEfv1j.jpg)

this could be a Kante replacement, lets hope he settles. the ball winner/back four protector we have missed

whoscored say : "Wilfred Ndidi: Has made more tackles + interceptions (56) than any other player in the Europa League this season"

so many of the summer signings didn't (close dressing room from last year proved a bit of a problem i think)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CylucR2WEAACBKG.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 08, 2017, 11:38:58 AM
Yesterday was a very pleasant surprise

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1lOme2VQAAKuGp.jpg)

watch out for Ndidi. sat in front of the back four, won a lot of ball, broke up a lot of play. tall, good in the air. very very good debut


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: hhyftrftdr on January 08, 2017, 06:01:14 PM
Can't say I'm familiar with the name.....is he a direct like for like with Kante or does he offer something a little different? Guessing his engine isn't quite at the same level :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 08, 2017, 06:05:58 PM
Can't say I'm familiar with the name.....is he a direct like for like with Kante or does he offer something a little different? Guessing his engine isn't quite at the same level :)

not sure yet but meant to be a kante like for like. we should be so lucky


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2017, 11:45:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1v6seoVQAAV9ic.jpg)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2017, 03:23:30 PM
https://beta.racingpost.com/sport/sport-columnists/possession-is-up-but-goals-are-down-for-city-under-pep/271325

Interesting article from the RPost stats guru Pullien who is as excellent as ever in his analysis.  Worth a read.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2017, 03:30:37 PM
https://beta.racingpost.com/sport/sport-columnists/possession-is-up-but-goals-are-down-for-city-under-pep/271325

Interesting article from the RPost stats guru Pullien who is as excellent as ever in his analysis.  Worth a read.

interesting

i was of the conclusion then and even more that Kante was transformational. he won us the ball in spots, consistently, where we haven't won it before or since and made the counter attacking game tick because the other side was unable to transition back from attack to defence by the time we had used our pace going forward

without him it has been a lot more humdrum. we don't break sides down when they are formed up and defending.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2017, 03:45:32 PM
https://beta.racingpost.com/sport/sport-columnists/possession-is-up-but-goals-are-down-for-city-under-pep/271325

Interesting article from the RPost stats guru Pullien who is as excellent as ever in his analysis.  Worth a read.

interesting

i was of the conclusion then and even more that Kante was transformational. he won us the ball in spots, consistently, where we haven't won it before or since and made the counter attacking game tick because the other side was unable to transition back from attack to defence by the time we had used our pace going forward

without him it has been a lot more humdrum. we don't break sides down when they are formed up and defending.

Think it probably breaks down to him winning loads of tackles but it not being converted into possession long term because the other players lost the ball again so quickly which allowed him to then win another tackle and rinse repeat.  The conversion of possession into shots and goals scored last year truly was remarkable when you compare it to this season and the season before last. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2017, 03:57:05 PM
https://beta.racingpost.com/sport/sport-columnists/possession-is-up-but-goals-are-down-for-city-under-pep/271325

Interesting article from the RPost stats guru Pullien who is as excellent as ever in his analysis.  Worth a read.

interesting

i was of the conclusion then and even more that Kante was transformational. he won us the ball in spots, consistently, where we haven't won it before or since and made the counter attacking game tick because the other side was unable to transition back from attack to defence by the time we had used our pace going forward

without him it has been a lot more humdrum. we don't break sides down when they are formed up and defending.

Think it probably breaks down to him winning loads of tackles but it not being converted into possession long term because the other players lost the ball again so quickly which allowed him to then win another tackle and rinse repeat.  The conversion of possession into shots and goals scored last year truly was remarkable when you compare it to this season and the season before last.  

we didn't need possession to have a chance because the transition from winning the ball to final third was so quick. back to front in 12 seconds, two passes.

eg scored a lot of these types of goals (and vardy ran hotter than the sun for a whole season which meant conversion rates were huge)

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQcM43vxDZQ



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
https://beta.racingpost.com/sport/sport-columnists/possession-is-up-but-goals-are-down-for-city-under-pep/271325

Interesting article from the RPost stats guru Pullien who is as excellent as ever in his analysis.  Worth a read.

interesting

i was of the conclusion then and even more that Kante was transformational. he won us the ball in spots, consistently, where we haven't won it before or since and made the counter attacking game tick because the other side was unable to transition back from attack to defence by the time we had used our pace going forward

without him it has been a lot more humdrum. we don't break sides down when they are formed up and defending.

Think it probably breaks down to him winning loads of tackles but it not being converted into possession long term because the other players lost the ball again so quickly which allowed him to then win another tackle and rinse repeat.  The conversion of possession into shots and goals scored last year truly was remarkable when you compare it to this season and the season before last.  

we didn't need possession to have a chance because the transition from winning the ball to final third was so quick. back to front in 12 seconds, two passes.

eg scored a lot of these types of goals (and vardy ran hotter than the sun for a whole season which meant conversion rates were huge)

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQcM43vxDZQ



Sure but you still have to do the other side of the coin and defend against huge possession %'s from the other team and keep them out.  That was the amazing thing for me.  How well your defense operated with bang average talent last season.  Appreciate much easier having Kante in front of that defense helped no end.  

My mother couldn't resist getting me a LCFC champions t-shirt for xmas as well from the club shop!  Quite good quality.  Highly recommended.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2017, 04:26:28 PM
at the time i thought it was good coaching. teams could not get through Kante so went wide, when they put crosses in they not only found morgan/huth (whose vulnerabilities are when being played through against, not balls in the air) but fuchs and simpson playing very narrow.

this season, watching the same back four, i realised even more that it only worked with kante there to funnel it out wide. no other midfielder on our books was able to do it, so downgraded the impact of coaching in my mind.   

this is why Ndidi is potentially a very important signing, but will have a better idea on that after we've played chelsea at home on saturday evening. If he bottles up Hazard and co, even partially, and allows us to soak up pressure and play the counter again it would be very promising


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on January 10, 2017, 09:55:47 PM
at the time i thought it was good coaching. teams could not get through Kante so went wide, when they put crosses in they not only found morgan/huth (whose vulnerabilities are when being played through against, not balls in the air) but fuchs and simpson playing very narrow.

this season, watching the same back four, i realised even more that it only worked with kante there to funnel it out wide. no other midfielder on our books was able to do it, so downgraded the impact of coaching in my mind.   

this is why Ndidi is potentially a very important signing, but will have a better idea on that after we've played chelsea at home on saturday evening. If he bottles up Hazard and co, even partially, and allows us to soak up pressure and play the counter again it would be very promising

Indeedy, yah, probs got the inside track from some Genkians on putting Hazard in his pocket - arf, arf.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on January 27, 2017, 09:38:00 PM
Gone a bit quiet on this, previously chirpy, thread

Lolster were so much better when they knew they couldn't really play football


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 28, 2017, 11:10:05 AM
Gone a bit quiet on this, previously chirpy, thread

Lolster were so much better when they knew they couldn't really play football

i didn't start the thread, but when exactly else is a supporter of a middle sized provincial club going to chirp than when it wins the league by ten points?

i haven't been to many games since October, so don't quite have the same perspective this time round.

suffice to say a variety of reasons combine

1 never ever seen a team miss one player as badly as we miss Kante. he really made our style last season workable and made, in particular, morgan and huth look far better than they are because they were so fabulously protecte. i think all this was identifed on here by me before he left.
2 the summer transfer spending hasn't worked (with perhaps 1 exception, Slimani). rather than strengthening the squad there are some signs it has fractured team spirit. again i have talked about this on here
3 Ranieri has had to tinker, and trying anything other than 4-4-2 has proved problematic. yet 4-4-2 is tough often playing 2 in the middle with 3 up against them. talked about nthis on here in aongst all the chirping too
4 teams have adapted, defending deeper, so Vardy in particular has had no space in behind (thatg is when he's not doing hello magazine shoots). often talked about this too.

all that said, home form is still ok. still can't have us favourites at Brnley on Tuesday though. we were favourites last night at Derby too.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 28, 2017, 11:19:27 AM
Gone a bit quiet on this, previously chirpy, thread

Lolster were so much better when they knew they couldn't really play football

i didn't start the thread, but when exactly else is a supporter of a middle sized provincial club going to chirp than when it wins the league by ten points?

i haven't been to many games since October, so don't quite have the same perspective this time round.

suffice to say a variety of reasons combine

1 never ever seen a team miss one player as badly as we miss Kante. he really made our style last season workable and made, in particular, morgan and huth look far better than they are because they were so fabulously protecte. i think all this was identifed on here by me before he left.
2 the summer transfer spending hasn't worked (with perhaps 1 exception, Slimani). rather than strengthening the squad there are some signs it has fractured team spirit. again i have talked about this on here
3 Ranieri has had to tinker, and trying anything other than 4-4-2 has proved problematic. yet 4-4-2 is tough often playing 2 in the middle with 3 up against them. talked about nthis on here in aongst all the chirping too
4 teams have adapted, defending deeper, so Vardy in particular has had no space in behind (thatg is when he's not doing hello magazine shoots). often talked about this too.

all that said, home form is still ok. still can't have us favourites at Brnley on Tuesday though. we were favourites last night at Derby too.


I am rather hoping Burnley beat them on Tuesday, having examined my "Open Bets".

oioi

Thanks Rich.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
Can't believe you fed the troll, Tighty :D



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 28, 2017, 11:48:56 AM
Can't believe you fed the troll, Tighty :D



Erudite, posh & aged troll, please.

 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: tikay on January 28, 2017, 11:50:06 AM

I might add that there were blonde software problems overnight, & Tighty was up half the night sorting them, so he's not in the best of frame of mind this morning, I fancy.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2017, 11:51:38 AM
Can't believe you fed the troll, Tighty :D

Standard football bants - laugh at the other guys team when they are doing shite. Lolster are terrible this season and it makes me very happy. Vardy spends the entire game giving the thumbs up to one of his colleagues who just lumped it 40 yds in his vague direction. Never on the end of it though-it's to fun.

Danny Donkwater for England anyone ? Allbutgone on the wide right. Muggan, Simple, Fucked and Hoof at the back - just incred what they did last year but loving the sheer mediocrity this





Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2017, 11:52:58 AM
Can't believe you fed the troll, Tighty :D



Erudite, posh & aged troll, please.

 

Haha, for footie we revert to neandertroll :-)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 12:03:38 PM
Can't believe you fed the troll, Tighty :D

Standard football bants - laugh at the other guys team when they are doing shite. Lolster are terrible this season and it makes me very happy. Vardy spends the entire game giving the thumbs up to one of his colleagues who just lumped it 40 yds in his vague direction. Never on the end of it though-it's to fun.

Danny Donkwater for England anyone ? Allbutgone on the wide right. Muggan, Simple, Fucked and Hoof at the back - just incred what they did last year but loving the sheer mediocrity this



Of course, but I think you ran well, with Tighty being up half the night :D


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2017, 12:52:15 PM
Can't believe you fed the troll, Tighty :D

Standard football bants - laugh at the other guys team when they are doing shite. Lolster are terrible this season and it makes me very happy. Vardy spends the entire game giving the thumbs up to one of his colleagues who just lumped it 40 yds in his vague direction. Never on the end of it though-it's to fun.

Danny Donkwater for England anyone ? Allbutgone on the wide right. Muggan, Simple, Fucked and Hoof at the back - just incred what they did last year but loving the sheer mediocrity this



Of course, but I think you ran well, with Tighty being up half the night :D

Serendipitous to be sure :)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: RickBFA on January 30, 2017, 07:07:43 PM
Ulloa won't play for Leicester again.

"Betrayed" by Ranieri.

These footballers live in a fantasy world.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 30, 2017, 07:12:52 PM
Ulloa won't play for Leicester again.

"Betrayed" by Ranieri.

These footballers live in a fantasy world.

its a sad one because he seems like a nice guy but i think he's badly advised

he is a decent player who has scored important goals but was really a bit part player last year

then we "strengthened" cough cough in the summer, and he's played even less (Slimani)

the clubs interested in him are sunderland, and we don't want to sell toa club near the bottom and they only bid £3.5m and galatasaray who want him on loan but not to pay all of his wages

so he tries to force a move and say he won't play for us again, which if he does will be breach of contract.



Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2017, 07:23:31 PM
Ulloa won't play for Leicester again.

"Betrayed" by Ranieri.

These footballers live in a fantasy world.

its a sad one because he seems like a nice guy but i think he's badly advised

he is a decent player who has scored important goals but was really a bit part player last year

then we "strengthened" cough cough in the summer, and he's played even less (Slimani)

the clubs interested in him are sunderland, and we don't want to sell toa club near the bottom and they only bid £3.5m and galatasaray who want him on loan but not to pay all of his wages

so he tries to force a move and say he won't play for us again, which if he does will be breach of contract.



Don't you think it gets really boring listening to owners say we don't have to sell, we can hang them out to dry etc?  West ham just made a public statement in the same manner and bottled it putting him in the reserves.   All these owners are hundred+ times richer than all their players yet they still submit to them.  I would have loved either Leicester or West Ham to call their bluff and just dump them in the reserves to send a statement for the good of the game.  Everyone talks about player power but the only player who allow player power are the billionaire owners who could club together and snap it in a second.

It has never really happened at Stoke but i really wish it would because i couldn't see the Coates family being held to ransom by a brain dead footballer over an amount of money they make daily at 365.  Maybe their recruitment and management is just too good that it never happens.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 30, 2017, 07:34:21 PM
we haven't had much of it either, until now

clubs end up selling (players force their hands with statements such as today's ) for less than their idea of "fair value" a fortnight previously as sticking them with the U23s is seen as corrosive to team spirit and holding them to end of contract a) still costs them the wages and b) gets less value when the contract runs down

of course we'd all like them to do it, but easier said than done. the players still have plenty of power.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Cavey007 on January 30, 2017, 07:36:03 PM
I'd like to think if West Ham hadn't brought in a replacement that they'd of let him rot in the reserves, but I don't know. End of the day, £25m is a lot of money for a 29yr old taking up £125k a week who doesn't want to play for you. - Supposedly he wanted to go back to Marseille for family reasons (we'll never know obviously) but he has taken a pay cut and had to pay £500k back to West Ham to get away, so maybe that was true. They also didn't let him go to a rival, so again, decent enough business from the Davids really. Despite them not needing the money. It all made sense.

Sorry for jumping on the Leicester thread, but what do you think of the West Ham board offering shirts for £25 if you bring your Payet shirt in? I've not seen any other club offer that on players who are sold, but they seem to be getting slated for only offering £12 discount on a new shirt (they've just been reduced) instead of giving a repacement for free. I mean would you be happy for Leicester to offer a Slimani shirt for trading in your Ulloa shirt and a £25? Of course they're trying to shift shirts from their warehouse, but at least they offered something.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 30, 2017, 07:39:11 PM
like what WHUFC did with the shirts. good PR

of course a few months ago they said they would keep Payet no matter waht, so fans bought his named shirt.

Players view changes, WHUFC get a reasonable price and give fans something back. Well done

(of course there is a probably a kit change end of season and thousands of soon to be worthless 2016-17 shirts in Sullivan's lock up depreciating by the minute, but i'm not too cynical in this instance)


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2017, 07:40:38 PM
we haven't had much of it either, until now

clubs end up selling (players force their hands with statements such as today's ) for less than their idea of "fair value" a fortnight previously as sticking them with the U23s is seen as corrosive to team spirit and holding them to end of contract a) still costs them the wages and b) gets less value when the contract runs down

of course we'd all like them to do it, but easier said than done. the players still have plenty of power.

It isn't a dig at Leicester or ham more a general comment amongst the clubs outside of the big boys who are privately owned (like leics/stoke/ham are) by hugely rich self made families.  They could (and should) imo for the long term good of the game and themselves being called out (think of the message it would send to future gold diggers looking at your club as a pension fund knowing they would easily be dumped in the reserves for a season).  I just think long term these clubs now have all the power if they choose to call the bluff.  I think it would massively win over cynical fans who say the game is dead and all about money as well and this is a huge longer term revenue stream as the game gets more and more corporate.

Just buy the shirt with no name on the back.  If you are stupid enough to put a name on the back you get whatever you deserve imo. 


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2017, 07:42:17 PM
I'd like to think if West Ham hadn't brought in a replacement that they'd of let him rot in the reserves, but I don't know. End of the day, £25m is a lot of money for a 29yr old taking up £125k a week who doesn't want to play for you. - Supposedly he wanted to go back to Marseille for family reasons (we'll never know obviously) but he has taken a pay cut and had to pay £500k back to West Ham to get away, so maybe that was true. They also didn't let him go to a rival, so again, decent enough business from the Davids really. Despite them not needing the money. It all made sense.

Sorry for jumping on the Leicester thread, but what do you think of the West Ham board offering shirts for £25 if you bring your Payet shirt in? I've not seen any other club offer that on players who are sold, but they seem to be getting slated for only offering £12 discount on a new shirt (they've just been reduced) instead of giving a repacement for free. I mean would you be happy for Leicester to offer a Slimani shirt for trading in your Ulloa shirt and a £25? Of course they're trying to shift shirts from their warehouse, but at least they offered something.

Why offer to pay him £125k a week when he is 34 then?  Just pay him £200k a week for 3 years if you want to give him £30m because he will be effectively worthless at 34 in a modern day EPL.  The initial contract was just a joke.  Just make better decisions in the first place.  Similar to paying Rooney £300k a year in 2020 or whenever the last year of his contract is.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 30, 2017, 07:44:20 PM
we haven't had much of it either, until now

clubs end up selling (players force their hands with statements such as today's ) for less than their idea of "fair value" a fortnight previously as sticking them with the U23s is seen as corrosive to team spirit and holding them to end of contract a) still costs them the wages and b) gets less value when the contract runs down

of course we'd all like them to do it, but easier said than done. the players still have plenty of power.

It isn't a dig at Leicester or ham more a general comment amongst the clubs outside of the big boys who are privately owned (like leics/stoke/ham are) by hugely rich self made families.  They could (and should) imo for the long term good of the game and themselves being called out (think of the message it would send to future gold diggers looking at your club as a pension fund knowing they would easily be dumped in the reserves for a season).  I just think long term these clubs now have all the power if they choose to call the bluff.  I think it would massively win over cynical fans who say the game is dead and all about money as well and this is a huge longer term revenue stream as the game gets more and more corporate.

i didn't take it as a dig.

Ulloa is 30 years old. think he's got 18 months left on a contract

depreciation of value is a major issue if you want to make a stand and put him in the kids dressing room. yes the private owners can afford it, but still not straightforward


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: Cavey007 on January 30, 2017, 07:53:51 PM
I'd like to think if West Ham hadn't brought in a replacement that they'd of let him rot in the reserves, but I don't know. End of the day, £25m is a lot of money for a 29yr old taking up £125k a week who doesn't want to play for you. - Supposedly he wanted to go back to Marseille for family reasons (we'll never know obviously) but he has taken a pay cut and had to pay £500k back to West Ham to get away, so maybe that was true. They also didn't let him go to a rival, so again, decent enough business from the Davids really. Despite them not needing the money. It all made sense.

Sorry for jumping on the Leicester thread, but what do you think of the West Ham board offering shirts for £25 if you bring your Payet shirt in? I've not seen any other club offer that on players who are sold, but they seem to be getting slated for only offering £12 discount on a new shirt (they've just been reduced) instead of giving a repacement for free. I mean would you be happy for Leicester to offer a Slimani shirt for trading in your Ulloa shirt and a £25? Of course they're trying to shift shirts from their warehouse, but at least they offered something.

Why offer to pay him £125k a week when he is 34 then?  Just pay him £200k a week for 3 years if you want to give him £30m because he will be effectively worthless at 34 in a modern day EPL.  The initial contract was just a joke.  Just make better decisions in the first place.  Similar to paying Rooney £300k a year in 2020 or whenever the last year of his contract is.

Fair point, the Payet contract was obviously an attempt to keep the breakout player of the year last year, for another season or two, and to push through the Europa and challenge for a top 6 spot in the league. He probably wanted to move to a bigger club in the summer, but saw that 500k a month and thought I can do this for a while, i'll be the big fish in this pond, get my team through the group stages in Europe and increase my standing even more. Obviously that all went very wrong, very quickly. Starting with resting him for the majority of the preliminary campaign which didn't help. Teams don't expect top players to reach the end of their contracts these days. They put them on big deals to maximize their sell on value

In principal I agree with you completely, but it would only work if everyone did it, if it's just one team that does it, and lets a guy rot in the reserves, then other players may look at that club and think, well I don't want that to happen to me if I act like a petulant child in future and want to move, I want to be at a club I can get my own way. It would probably restrict their ability to bring in other players.

As It happens for West Ham, while Snodgrass isn't as good as Payet, him and £15m in the bank is actually a pretty good deal


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2017, 07:55:44 PM
we haven't had much of it either, until now

clubs end up selling (players force their hands with statements such as today's ) for less than their idea of "fair value" a fortnight previously as sticking them with the U23s is seen as corrosive to team spirit and holding them to end of contract a) still costs them the wages and b) gets less value when the contract runs down

of course we'd all like them to do it, but easier said than done. the players still have plenty of power.

It isn't a dig at Leicester or ham more a general comment amongst the clubs outside of the big boys who are privately owned (like leics/stoke/ham are) by hugely rich self made families.  They could (and should) imo for the long term good of the game and themselves being called out (think of the message it would send to future gold diggers looking at your club as a pension fund knowing they would easily be dumped in the reserves for a season).  I just think long term these clubs now have all the power if they choose to call the bluff.  I think it would massively win over cynical fans who say the game is dead and all about money as well and this is a huge longer term revenue stream as the game gets more and more corporate.

i didn't take it as a dig.

Ulloa is 30 years old. think he's got 18 months left on a contract

depreciation of value is a major issue if you want to make a stand and put him in the kids dressing room. yes the private owners can afford it, but still not straightforward

I really think it is straight forward and if you nip it in the bud you protect your club long term from signing gold diggers who are looking for a pension/contract to seal their future.  I think the owners need to see the bigger picture and take a hit short term to set the mark for the longer term future.  I just can't have it that the Coates family  (worth circa £10 BILLION) would ever be told what was happening by a footballer playing for them worth sub £20m at best.  I have worked for them years ago and left the company and they are ruthless when it comes to business but extremely loyal to people who don't fuck them over.  I think there is a reason why this type of thing has never happened at Stoke.  I am sure it is also to do with the scouting influence and how much they research players and their motives more than most clubs do.  They really don't have many big money signings/contract busts over the last 8 years.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2017, 08:01:33 PM
I'd like to think if West Ham hadn't brought in a replacement that they'd of let him rot in the reserves, but I don't know. End of the day, £25m is a lot of money for a 29yr old taking up £125k a week who doesn't want to play for you. - Supposedly he wanted to go back to Marseille for family reasons (we'll never know obviously) but he has taken a pay cut and had to pay £500k back to West Ham to get away, so maybe that was true. They also didn't let him go to a rival, so again, decent enough business from the Davids really. Despite them not needing the money. It all made sense.

Sorry for jumping on the Leicester thread, but what do you think of the West Ham board offering shirts for £25 if you bring your Payet shirt in? I've not seen any other club offer that on players who are sold, but they seem to be getting slated for only offering £12 discount on a new shirt (they've just been reduced) instead of giving a repacement for free. I mean would you be happy for Leicester to offer a Slimani shirt for trading in your Ulloa shirt and a £25? Of course they're trying to shift shirts from their warehouse, but at least they offered something.

Why offer to pay him £125k a week when he is 34 then?  Just pay him £200k a week for 3 years if you want to give him £30m because he will be effectively worthless at 34 in a modern day EPL.  The initial contract was just a joke.  Just make better decisions in the first place.  Similar to paying Rooney £300k a year in 2020 or whenever the last year of his contract is.

Fair point, the Payet contract was obviously an attempt to keep the breakout player of the year last year, for another season or two, and to push through the Europa and challenge for a top 6 spot in the league. He probably wanted to move to a bigger club in the summer, but saw that 500k a month and thought I can do this for a while, i'll be the big fish in this pond, get my team through the group stages in Europe and increase my standing even more. Obviously that all went very wrong, very quickly. Starting with resting him for the majority of the preliminary campaign which didn't help. Teams don't expect top players to reach the end of their contracts these days. They put them on big deals to maximize their sell on value

In principal I agree with you completely, but it would only work if everyone did it, if it's just one team that does it, and lets a guy rot in the reserves, then other players may look at that club and think, well I don't want that to happen to me if I act like a petulant child in future and want to move, I want to be at a club I can get my own way. It would probably restrict their ability to bring in other players.

As It happens for West Ham, while Snodgrass isn't as good as Payet, him and £15m in the bank is actually a pretty good deal

Snod is a championship player.  I totally disagree with you on this factor.


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: TightEnd on January 30, 2017, 08:03:50 PM
we haven't had much of it either, until now

clubs end up selling (players force their hands with statements such as today's ) for less than their idea of "fair value" a fortnight previously as sticking them with the U23s is seen as corrosive to team spirit and holding them to end of contract a) still costs them the wages and b) gets less value when the contract runs down

of course we'd all like them to do it, but easier said than done. the players still have plenty of power.

It isn't a dig at Leicester or ham more a general comment amongst the clubs outside of the big boys who are privately owned (like leics/stoke/ham are) by hugely rich self made families.  They could (and should) imo for the long term good of the game and themselves being called out (think of the message it would send to future gold diggers looking at your club as a pension fund knowing they would easily be dumped in the reserves for a season).  I just think long term these clubs now have all the power if they choose to call the bluff.  I think it would massively win over cynical fans who say the game is dead and all about money as well and this is a huge longer term revenue stream as the game gets more and more corporate.

i didn't take it as a dig.

Ulloa is 30 years old. think he's got 18 months left on a contract

depreciation of value is a major issue if you want to make a stand and put him in the kids dressing room. yes the private owners can afford it, but still not straightforward

I really think it is straight forward and if you nip it in the bud you protect your club long term from signing gold diggers who are looking for a pension/contract to seal their future.  I think the owners need to see the bigger picture and take a hit short term to set the mark for the longer term future.  I just can't have it that the Coates family  (worth circa £10 BILLION) would ever be told what was happening by a footballer playing for them worth sub £20m at best.  I have worked for them years ago and left the company and they are ruthless when it comes to business but extremely loyal to people who don't fuck them over.  I think there is a reason why this type of thing has never happened at Stoke.  I am sure it is also to do with the scouting influence and how much they research players and their motives more than most clubs do.  They really don't have many big money signings/contract busts over the last 8 years.

Agent

"so you can go to club x and club y for the same deal. be careful though club x has just stiffed over player z who had 18 months left and let him rot with the kids, so prevented him getting one more contract. i think you should go to club y"

think that is a real factor in modern day football


Title: Re: Tinker on.
Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2017, 08:05:47 PM
we haven't had much of it either, until now

clubs end up selling (players force their hands with statements such as today's ) for less than their idea of "fair value" a fortnight previously as sticking them with the U23s is seen as corrosive to team spirit and holding them to end of contract a) still costs them the wages and b) gets less value when the contract runs down

of course we'd all like them to do it, but easier said than done. the players still have plenty of power.

It isn't a dig at Leicester or ham more a general comment amongst the clubs outside of the big boys who are privately owned (like leics/stoke/ham are) by hugely rich self made families.  They could (and should) imo for the long term good of the game and themselves being called out (think of the message it would send to future gold diggers looking at your club as a pension fund knowing they would easily be dumped in the reserves for a season).  I just think long term these clubs now have all the power if they choose to call the bluff.  I