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Title: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on February 11, 2016, 01:43:51 PM
the article quotes

Compensate fans if late fixture changes

Introduce safe standing

Ban tannoy music after goals

Better and cheaper beer

Prevent clubs from using secondary ticket partners

Move the FA Cup final back to 3pm

Stop kits being changed every season

Introduce wi-fi in grounds

Restrict number of loans clubs can make

Adjust prices more fairly for restricted view seats


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/12151557/After-Liverpool-ticket-price-climb-down-what-are-other-changes-fans-want-to-see.html


agree with these? what else?


i thoroughly agree with not changing kits every season. having experienced it recently, late fixture changes are bad too

tannoy goal music is very irritiating!



Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: DungBeetle on February 11, 2016, 05:09:01 PM
I love the new kits each season.  It's part of the pre season.  Why do people feel that they are forced to buy the latest one?? 


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on February 11, 2016, 05:15:16 PM
I love the new kits each season.  It's part of the pre season.  Why do people feel that they are forced to buy the latest one?? 

there is peer pressure, particularly on children, to have the latest kit

adults don't like to wear the old one either

fwiw i don't wear them but have come up against it with my kids. you don't give in, and wait for christmas and birthdays etc,

its £40+ per shirt, extra for lettering. costs a fortune. Especially if you have a soft spot for Borthwick-Jackson, i expect

seriously though, it's too much.

there is absolutely no need for a new kit each season, the norm used to be every two seasons which was reasonable, unless a sponsor changed etc


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on February 11, 2016, 05:22:04 PM
Agree with most of them. Ticket allocations for big cup finals (FA,CL) should be more weighted towards fans of the teams playing as well. Most of the time is the clubs biggest match in years (maybe ever) and they only get 1/3 each because 1/3 is allocated to people who have no affiliation with the teams and are just there for the free day out.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: DungBeetle on February 11, 2016, 05:34:11 PM
I love the new kits each season.  It's part of the pre season.  Why do people feel that they are forced to buy the latest one?? 

there is peer pressure, particularly on children, to have the latest kit

adults don't like to wear the old one either

fwiw i don't wear them but have come up against it with my kids. you don't give in, and wait for christmas and birthdays etc,

its £40+ per shirt, extra for lettering. costs a fortune. Especially if you have a soft spot for Borthwick-Jackson, i expect

seriously though, it's too much.

there is absolutely no need for a new kit each season, the norm used to be every two seasons which was reasonable, unless a sponsor changed etc

It's a silly argument that clubs can't release new kits because people don't have the discipline not to buy them.  It's cart before horse.  If people stop buying them then they won't change it.  Let the market decide.  Why are football fans special in this regard?  Why do they need protecting from themselves and other fashion consumers don't?

The "norm" you mention was the 80s.  Times have changed.  People rarely had dinners out in the 80s either and now it's several times a week what with pubs serving food.



Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: DungBeetle on February 11, 2016, 05:38:03 PM
Agree with most of them. Ticket allocations for big cup finals (FA,CL) should be more weighted towards fans of the teams playing as well. Most of the time is the clubs biggest match in years (maybe ever) and they only get 1/3 each because 1/3 is allocated to people who have no affiliation with the teams and are just there for the free day out.

Yep that's a good one.  10 percent only to corporate hospitality and sponsors imo


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on February 11, 2016, 05:39:13 PM
no as recently as five years ago the "two year rule" was in place

its pertinent because so much of the demand is under 18s based. Clubs are just exploiting fans, treating them as customers rather than what they are, which is a grouping of fans whose passion compels them to buy them

the goodwill they would get from re-asserting a formal two year rule would be enormous


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: DungBeetle on February 11, 2016, 05:44:51 PM
no as recently as five years ago the "two year rule" was in place

its pertinent because so much of the demand is under 18s based. Clubs are just exploiting fans, treating them as customers rather than what they are, which is a grouping of fans whose passion compels them to buy them

the goodwill they would get from re-asserting a formal two year rule would be enormous

Watford have changed their strip every year since 1997 as far as I know.  In fact which clubs kept their kits for 2 years in 2010?  I can't think of a single one? I still don't understand why football fans need protecting from fashion accessories.  It's not drugs.  If fans don't buy the items then clubs won't churn them out.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: DungBeetle on February 11, 2016, 05:52:01 PM
And there will be no goodwill from me if they change it to a 2 year cycle.  I'm already thinking about what spangly silky yellow costume Ighalo will be parading in August.  You're going to leave a void in my life.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: bergeroo on February 11, 2016, 05:58:55 PM
I was I think 12 or 13 when they first introduced player names. They used to charge per letter ( which I don't think they do any more). My friend was a Villa fan and his dad said he could have a kit with name and number but his dad chose the name. It was Cox - the reserve full back. Economical, but I'm sure not exactly my friends first choice...

I love the new kits each season.  It's part of the pre season.  Why do people feel that they are forced to buy the latest one?? 

there is peer pressure, particularly on children, to have the latest kit

adults don't like to wear the old one either

fwiw i don't wear them but have come up against it with my kids. you don't give in, and wait for christmas and birthdays etc,

its £40+ per shirt, extra for lettering. costs a fortune. Especially if you have a soft spot for Borthwick-Jackson, i expect

seriously though, it's too much.

there is absolutely no need for a new kit each season, the norm used to be every two seasons which was reasonable, unless a sponsor changed etc


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on February 11, 2016, 06:02:32 PM
Leicester still charge per letter.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: NoCardDSC on February 11, 2016, 06:30:57 PM
Like a lot of these;

Introduce safe standing - having only been to one ground where I stood, that being Griffin Park last season, despite whether that was just because it was different I thought the atmosphere and experience was a lot better.

Better a cheap beer - goes without saying

Adjust prices for restricted view seats - I have been to several games within the last two years where my view has been restricted so much that I can see only 1/3 of the pitch. This definitely needs to happen across the board as it just isn't fair.



Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: rinswun on February 11, 2016, 09:11:33 PM
Would love to be able to have a beer when watching the game. Was at the Amex watching Brentford last Friday, forced to wolf one down pre-match and at half time. Last time I sat in that same stand it was for South Africa/Japan where we could drink in our seats. Much more enjoyable.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on February 11, 2016, 09:46:53 PM
I miss standing on the terraces a lot.  It was about that time I stopped going every week too.

Agree with most of the points to be fair.  Get rid of the music when a goal is scored......there is something about the 10 second mad cheer....and I like to hear it.

Late changes to fixtures for TV would annoy me if I had booked a hotel and trains etc, refunds from clubs for pre booked train tickets would be nice on production of said useless ticket to opponents town/city etc.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 11, 2016, 09:51:48 PM
Leicester still charge per letter.

Well, I think you've just lost all the neutrals wanting Leicester to win the title.

Safe standing. Most away fans just stand all game anyway, and the home fans surrounding them follow suit. Just get a designated area.
Cheap(er) beer, but also the catering can vary from edible to turgid. Why can't KFC have little stands in the grounds and on the concourses?
Why can't the TV schedule be organised and published in line when train fares go on sale? So they have until 12 weeks before a game to fuck about with the schedule, and then if they alter a fixture from there on in then some form of compensation for those who booked up and have since been left out of pocket due to a TV change. Even just rail vouchers to put towards the next booking or something. There should definitely be something in place meaning fixtures can't be touched less than a month before kick off.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: PokerBroker on February 12, 2016, 12:03:34 PM
I like them all.  Would also add that I'd want to see TV replays, refs with mics - love how that works in Rugby. 

RE the lettering, it's one of my pet hates to see fans wearing a shirt with a name and number on it, looks terrible, especially on Adults.  Even worse are thick parents who get their kids first names put on a team shirt.   


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: nirvana on February 12, 2016, 02:07:56 PM
Football shirts look ridic on any adult, when not playing football, irrespective of lettering. Worse still if accompanied by cords or joggers like some Posh fans I've seen


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2016, 02:13:57 PM
Football shirts look ridic on any adult, when not playing football, irrespective of lettering. Worse still if accompanied by cords or joggers like some Posh fans I've seen

Name & shame I say.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2016, 02:19:20 PM
Leicester still charge per letter.

Well, I think you've just lost all the neutrals wanting Leicester to win the title.

Safe standing. Most away fans just stand all game anyway, and the home fans surrounding them follow suit. Just get a designated area.
Cheap(er) beer, but also the catering can vary from edible to turgid. Why can't KFC have little stands in the grounds and on the concourses?
Why can't the TV schedule be organised and published in line when train fares go on sale? So they have until 12 weeks before a game to fuck about with the schedule, and then if they alter a fixture from there on in then some form of compensation for those who booked up and have since been left out of pocket due to a TV change. Even just rail vouchers to put towards the next booking or something. There should definitely be something in place meaning fixtures can't be touched less than a month before kick off.

Unrealistic - the fixed equipment cost for a KFC is huge, & could not possibly be economically viable on Match Days only. Cracking grub though.

Cheaper/better beer? No no no. That can only end badly.

Kit changes every year? Daft to blame the Clubs for that. As long as folks buy them, they'll keep changing them.

Tannoy music after a goal? Are you kidding me? It's not pyjama cricket. BAN IT.

Safe standing? No such thing, especially if combined with cheap beer. How many disasters do we want before we realise that grown ups should sit down? You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Jon MW on February 12, 2016, 02:28:29 PM
... You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

you can buy standing tickets for some Opera and Ballet. Not trying to be awkward.... just saying.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2016, 02:31:33 PM
... You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

you can buy standing tickets for some Opera and Ballet. Not trying to be awkward.... just saying.

Only the common sorts.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 12, 2016, 02:43:09 PM
Leicester still charge per letter.

Well, I think you've just lost all the neutrals wanting Leicester to win the title.

Safe standing. Most away fans just stand all game anyway, and the home fans surrounding them follow suit. Just get a designated area.
Cheap(er) beer, but also the catering can vary from edible to turgid. Why can't KFC have little stands in the grounds and on the concourses?
Why can't the TV schedule be organised and published in line when train fares go on sale? So they have until 12 weeks before a game to fuck about with the schedule, and then if they alter a fixture from there on in then some form of compensation for those who booked up and have since been left out of pocket due to a TV change. Even just rail vouchers to put towards the next booking or something. There should definitely be something in place meaning fixtures can't be touched less than a month before kick off.

Unrealistic - the fixed equipment cost for a KFC is huge, & could not possibly be economically viable on Match Days only. Cracking grub though.

Cheaper/better beer? No no no. That can only end badly.

Kit changes every year? Daft to blame the Clubs for that. As long as folks buy them, they'll keep changing them.

Tannoy music after a goal? Are you kidding me? It's not pyjama cricket. BAN IT.

Safe standing? No such thing, especially if combined with cheap beer. How many disasters do we want before we realise that grown ups should sit down? You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

Dortmund do safe standing pretty well. That stand behind the goal is huge, and has thousands upon thousands in it every home game. Biggest stand in Europe I think I'm right in saying. And converts very easily to an all seater for Euro games.

Would love some popcorn chicken or a boneless banquet before the game.....or now. Sigh.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: booder on February 12, 2016, 03:42:29 PM
Leicester still charge per letter.

Well, I think you've just lost all the neutrals wanting Leicester to win the title.

Safe standing. Most away fans just stand all game anyway, and the home fans surrounding them follow suit. Just get a designated area.
Cheap(er) beer, but also the catering can vary from edible to turgid. Why can't KFC have little stands in the grounds and on the concourses?
Why can't the TV schedule be organised and published in line when train fares go on sale? So they have until 12 weeks before a game to fuck about with the schedule, and then if they alter a fixture from there on in then some form of compensation for those who booked up and have since been left out of pocket due to a TV change. Even just rail vouchers to put towards the next booking or something. There should definitely be something in place meaning fixtures can't be touched less than a month before kick off.

Unrealistic - the fixed equipment cost for a KFC is huge, & could not possibly be economically viable on Match Days only. Cracking grub though.

Cheaper/better beer? No no no. That can only end badly.

Kit changes every year? Daft to blame the Clubs for that. As long as folks buy them, they'll keep changing them.

Tannoy music after a goal? Are you kidding me? It's not pyjama cricket. BAN IT.

Safe standing? No such thing, especially if combined with cheap beer. How many disasters do we want before we realise that grown ups should sit down? You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

KFC equipment is more expensive than Mc Donalds ?


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Skippy on February 12, 2016, 03:54:42 PM
... You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

you can buy standing tickets for some Opera and Ballet. Not trying to be awkward.... just saying.

It's not you trying to be awkward, that's for sure :-)


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: PokerBroker on February 12, 2016, 03:59:45 PM
Leicester still charge per letter.

Well, I think you've just lost all the neutrals wanting Leicester to win the title.

Safe standing. Most away fans just stand all game anyway, and the home fans surrounding them follow suit. Just get a designated area.
Cheap(er) beer, but also the catering can vary from edible to turgid. Why can't KFC have little stands in the grounds and on the concourses?
Why can't the TV schedule be organised and published in line when train fares go on sale? So they have until 12 weeks before a game to fuck about with the schedule, and then if they alter a fixture from there on in then some form of compensation for those who booked up and have since been left out of pocket due to a TV change. Even just rail vouchers to put towards the next booking or something. There should definitely be something in place meaning fixtures can't be touched less than a month before kick off.

Unrealistic - the fixed equipment cost for a KFC is huge, & could not possibly be economically viable on Match Days only. Cracking grub though.

Cheaper/better beer? No no no. That can only end badly.

Kit changes every year? Daft to blame the Clubs for that. As long as folks buy them, they'll keep changing them.

Tannoy music after a goal? Are you kidding me? It's not pyjama cricket. BAN IT.

Safe standing? No such thing, especially if combined with cheap beer. How many disasters do we want before we realise that grown ups should sit down? You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

Dortmund do safe standing pretty well. That stand behind the goal is huge, and has thousands upon thousands in it every home game. Biggest stand in Europe I think I'm right in saying. And converts very easily to an all seater for Euro games.

Would love some popcorn chicken or a boneless banquet before the game.....or now. Sigh.

KFC isn't even real chicken.  Now Chunky Chicken is where the cool kids go, Nandos is so last year. 


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TommyPlus on February 12, 2016, 04:08:26 PM
the article quotes

Compensate fans if late fixture changes - How late? How much compensation? Seems like a legal minefield that is probably best left undetonated.

Introduce safe standing - I'm not sure such a thing exists. Clue is in the name. Calling it "safe standing" rather illustrates how unsafe it is.

Ban tannoy music after goals - Yeah it's utter bollocks. Do away with tannoy "MCs" altogether.

Better and cheaper beer - Agree with this. Blokes are out for 3 or 4 hours before the match in the local so knocking a quid off a pint is hardly going to cause riotous drunkedness.

Prevent clubs from using secondary ticket partners - Agree to a certain extent. Smaller clubs don't necessarily have the resources to implement a ticketing system profitably.

Move the FA Cup final back to 3pm - Don't care. I'll watch it at 3pm or 5:15pm.

Stop kits being changed every season - Not a chance this will ever happen. Grown men wearing kits are a travesty so charging them for a new kit every season leaves less disposable income for them to commit other atrocities.
Sometimes children have to understand that no means no. Not a bad thing.

Introduce wi-fi in grounds - If you thought vuvuzelas were annoying then wait until you have 40,000 simultaneously tweeting about how overrated Michael Carrick is. People moaning about ticket prices then spending half the game looking at their phone.

Restrict number of loans clubs can make - Bring back emergency loans, for goalkeepers only. Whole system is ridiculous.

Adjust prices more fairly for restricted view seats - Buyer beware. Normal ticket £50, restricted view ticket £35. I'd rather watch it in the boozer.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/12151557/After-Liverpool-ticket-price-climb-down-what-are-other-changes-fans-want-to-see.html


agree with these? what else?


i thoroughly agree with not changing kits every season. having experienced it recently, late fixture changes are bad too

tannoy goal music is very irritiating!




Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2016, 04:11:57 PM
for several years, when we scored, "Chelsea Dagger" by the fratellis

I hated it. lets listen to the crowd go bonkers please, don't need it

in recent years, its Kasabian, who are at least a Leicester band, and i don't mind it so much

but still would rather have nothing

It is undoubtedly a fact that atmosphere's in grounds pale compared to what they were even ten years ago, though. several reasons for this, but one will be that the gentrication of an all sitting crowd means its become a less visceral experience much of the time.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 12, 2016, 04:15:54 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jmf9UQ3YIs

This is what we play at Eastlands when City score.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: PokerBroker on February 12, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
for several years, when we scored, "Chelsea Dagger" by the fratellis

I hated it. lets listen to the crowd go bonkers please, don't need it

in recent years, its Kasabian, who are at least a Leicester band, and i don't mind it so much

but still would rather have nothing

It is undoubtedly a fact that atmosphere's in grounds pale compared to what they were even ten years ago, though. several reasons for this, but one will be that the gentrication of an all sitting crowd means its become a less visceral experience much of the time.

It's worse when individual players have their own them track for when they score!!


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 12, 2016, 04:29:44 PM
for several years, when we scored, "Chelsea Dagger" by the fratellis

I hated it. lets listen to the crowd go bonkers please, don't need it

in recent years, its Kasabian, who are at least a Leicester band, and i don't mind it so much

but still would rather have nothing

It is undoubtedly a fact that atmosphere's in grounds pale compared to what they were even ten years ago, though. several reasons for this, but one will be that the gentrication of an all sitting crowd means its become a less visceral experience much of the time.

It's worse when individual players have their own them track for when they score!!

When Yaya scores....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP2enk5w5fk

I'll stop now.....maybe.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: tikay on February 12, 2016, 05:33:05 PM
Leicester still charge per letter.

Well, I think you've just lost all the neutrals wanting Leicester to win the title.

Safe standing. Most away fans just stand all game anyway, and the home fans surrounding them follow suit. Just get a designated area.
Cheap(er) beer, but also the catering can vary from edible to turgid. Why can't KFC have little stands in the grounds and on the concourses?
Why can't the TV schedule be organised and published in line when train fares go on sale? So they have until 12 weeks before a game to fuck about with the schedule, and then if they alter a fixture from there on in then some form of compensation for those who booked up and have since been left out of pocket due to a TV change. Even just rail vouchers to put towards the next booking or something. There should definitely be something in place meaning fixtures can't be touched less than a month before kick off.

Unrealistic - the fixed equipment cost for a KFC is huge, & could not possibly be economically viable on Match Days only. Cracking grub though.

Cheaper/better beer? No no no. That can only end badly.

Kit changes every year? Daft to blame the Clubs for that. As long as folks buy them, they'll keep changing them.

Tannoy music after a goal? Are you kidding me? It's not pyjama cricket. BAN IT.

Safe standing? No such thing, especially if combined with cheap beer. How many disasters do we want before we realise that grown ups should sit down? You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

KFC equipment is more expensive than Mc Donalds ?

Sorry David, but I don't know what equipment they use, I'm not common enough to frequent MacDonalds, I have standards, & taste, & stuff like that.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TommyPlus on February 12, 2016, 06:36:09 PM
Leicester still charge per letter.

Well, I think you've just lost all the neutrals wanting Leicester to win the title.

Safe standing. Most away fans just stand all game anyway, and the home fans surrounding them follow suit. Just get a designated area.
Cheap(er) beer, but also the catering can vary from edible to turgid. Why can't KFC have little stands in the grounds and on the concourses?
Why can't the TV schedule be organised and published in line when train fares go on sale? So they have until 12 weeks before a game to fuck about with the schedule, and then if they alter a fixture from there on in then some form of compensation for those who booked up and have since been left out of pocket due to a TV change. Even just rail vouchers to put towards the next booking or something. There should definitely be something in place meaning fixtures can't be touched less than a month before kick off.

Unrealistic - the fixed equipment cost for a KFC is huge, & could not possibly be economically viable on Match Days only. Cracking grub though.

Cheaper/better beer? No no no. That can only end badly.

Kit changes every year? Daft to blame the Clubs for that. As long as folks buy them, they'll keep changing them.

Tannoy music after a goal? Are you kidding me? It's not pyjama cricket. BAN IT.

Safe standing? No such thing, especially if combined with cheap beer. How many disasters do we want before we realise that grown ups should sit down? You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

KFC equipment is more expensive than Mc Donalds ?

Sorry David, but I don't know what equipment they use, I'm not common enough to frequent MacDonalds, I have standards, & taste, & stuff like that.

Indeed, McDonalds is banned in the culinary paradise in which I currently dwell. Kazakhstan. Something to do with the standard of their chicken processing procedure falling below Kazakh standards. Make of that what you will.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
Tommy

how did you end up in Kazakhstan? what's the story behind that?

(nosey of blonde)


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Tal on February 12, 2016, 06:48:20 PM
... You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

you can buy standing tickets for some Opera and Ballet. Not trying to be awkward.... just saying.

Never knew that.

Where do they congregate?


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TommyPlus on February 12, 2016, 07:24:20 PM
Tommy

how did you end up in Kazakhstan? what's the story behind that?

(nosey of blonde)

I managed a first in English language and set about wasting it as much as I could. Got a job with a major gambling firm, holding numerous varied roles then got married to a teacher. Recession hits, prospects wain and my wife gets offered a job in Kaz so I figured I/we had nothing to lose. Undertook a TEFL and an IELTS teaching course and rocked up in Almaty as a high end English language tutor.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Doobs on February 12, 2016, 07:41:06 PM
... You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

you can buy standing tickets for some Opera and Ballet. Not trying to be awkward.... just saying.

Never knew that.

Where do they congregate?
Not sure if serious, but the Royal Opera House has standing tickets.  We went in the cheapest seats a few years ago.  Was an experience.  I would recommend it, after all the upgrade cost us a billion or so.  It is such a nice building, and a waste to leave it to the hoorays.   

I did a count at the interval.  There were 8 bottles of beer and precisely a gazillion bottles of champagne.   Think there were 6 bottles of beer left at the end of the break and we drank exactly 2.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TheDazzler on February 12, 2016, 07:46:47 PM
Tommy

how did you end up in Kazakhstan? what's the story behind that?

(nosey of blonde)

I managed a first in English language and set about wasting it as much as I could. Got a job with a major gambling firm, holding numerous varied roles then got married to a teacher. Recession hits, prospects wain and my wife gets offered a job in Kaz so I figured I/we had nothing to lose. Undertook a TEFL and an IELTS teaching course and rocked up in Almaty as a high end English language tutor.

How very interesting.
I am visiting Almaty in April.
2 weeks in Kazakstan and Kyrgyzstan.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TommyPlus on February 12, 2016, 07:54:59 PM
Tommy

how did you end up in Kazakhstan? what's the story behind that?

(nosey of blonde)

I managed a first in English language and set about wasting it as much as I could. Got a job with a major gambling firm, holding numerous varied roles then got married to a teacher. Recession hits, prospects wain and my wife gets offered a job in Kaz so I figured I/we had nothing to lose. Undertook a TEFL and an IELTS teaching course and rocked up in Almaty as a high end English language tutor.

How very interesting.
I am visiting Almaty in April.
2 weeks in Kazakstan and Kyrgyzstan.

That's cool. If you need a place to crash or someone to show you 'the sights' then I'm sure I can be hospitable enough.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2016, 08:02:04 PM
you might not be up for it but if you wanted to do a thread describing Kazakhstan, life there etc, put some pictures up sure a lot of people would be interested

my travel bug lapsed with family and commitments a long time ago, cant imagine ill ever do the former USSR countries

no problem if not, but i think kazakhstan is a first for here


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Tal on February 12, 2016, 08:04:45 PM
... You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

you can buy standing tickets for some Opera and Ballet. Not trying to be awkward.... just saying.

Never knew that.

Where do they congregate?
Not sure if serious, but the Royal Opera House has standing tickets.  We went in the cheapest seats a few years ago.  Was an experience.  I would recommend it, after all the upgrade cost us a billion or so.  It is such a nice building, and a waste to leave it to the hoorays.   

I did a count at the interval.  There were 8 bottles of beer and precisely a gazillion bottles of champagne.   Think there were 6 bottles of beer left at the end of the break and we drank exactly 2.

I didn't know, but you can't tempt me to go.

My love for opera is almost as intense as tikay's for a show called The Celebrity T20 Wrestling in the Jungle On Ice Song Contest.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TommyPlus on February 12, 2016, 08:10:43 PM
you might not be up for it but if you wanted to do a thread describing Kazakhstan, life there etc, put some pictures up sure a lot of people would be interested

my travel bug lapsed with family and commitments a long time ago, cant imagine ill ever do the former USSR countries

no problem if not, but i think kazakhstan is a first for here

I'd love to have a crack at it mate. I need to know -
A) where to post it
B) how to link pictures


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on February 12, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
you might not be up for it but if you wanted to do a thread describing Kazakhstan, life there etc, put some pictures up sure a lot of people would be interested

my travel bug lapsed with family and commitments a long time ago, cant imagine ill ever do the former USSR countries

no problem if not, but i think kazakhstan is a first for here

I'd love to have a crack at it mate. I need to know -
A) where to post it
B) how to link pictures

a) In the diaries and blogs section

b) upload pictures to something like picasa or photobucket and save the ones you want to you in a folder

then underneath the post will be an "additional options"

click it, press browse and then click your image in

press post

shout if you have problems


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: hhyftrftdr on February 12, 2016, 08:13:31 PM
you might not be up for it but if you wanted to do a thread describing Kazakhstan, life there etc, put some pictures up sure a lot of people would be interested

my travel bug lapsed with family and commitments a long time ago, cant imagine ill ever do the former USSR countries

no problem if not, but i think kazakhstan is a first for here

+1, be very interesting.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TommyPlus on February 12, 2016, 08:20:25 PM
Seems like an idea to be pursued. I'll give it a go tomorrow.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TheDazzler on February 12, 2016, 09:01:30 PM
Tommy

how did you end up in Kazakhstan? what's the story behind that?

(nosey of blonde)

I managed a first in English language and set about wasting it as much as I could. Got a job with a major gambling firm, holding numerous varied roles then got married to a teacher. Recession hits, prospects wain and my wife gets offered a job in Kaz so I figured I/we had nothing to lose. Undertook a TEFL and an IELTS teaching course and rocked up in Almaty as a high end English language tutor.

How very interesting.
I am visiting Almaty in April.
2 weeks in Kazakstan and Kyrgyzstan.

That's cool. If you need a place to crash or someone to show you 'the sights' then I'm sure I can be hospitable enough.

I think we're going to go AirBnB for accommodation thx but someone to tell us the sights would be good.
I don't want to derail the thread so I'll pm you.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Doobs on February 12, 2016, 09:04:04 PM
... You don't stand at the Opera, or Ballet.

you can buy standing tickets for some Opera and Ballet. Not trying to be awkward.... just saying.

Never knew that.

Where do they congregate?
Not sure if serious, but the Royal Opera House has standing tickets.  We went in the cheapest seats a few years ago.  Was an experience.  I would recommend it, after all the upgrade cost us a billion or so.  It is such a nice building, and a waste to leave it to the hoorays.   

I did a count at the interval.  There were 8 bottles of beer and precisely a gazillion bottles of champagne.   Think there were 6 bottles of beer left at the end of the break and we drank exactly 2.

I didn't know, but you can't tempt me to go.

My love for opera is almost as intense as tikay's for a show called The Celebrity T20 Wrestling in the Jungle On Ice Song Contest.

It is just a musical in Italian.  I can't stand musicals either.  The building is just glorious and you can just go for that.  My missus was a bit peed off when I got my newspaper out.  Apparently it isn't the done thing.  She never asked if I wamted to go again.  

There is the most beautiful smoking terrace overlooking Covent Garden, or at least there used to be.  Right up there with the one at the Royal Festival Hall.  Probably couldn't stand them now.

Tommy:  Love to hear more about Kazakhstan too.  I looked up Almaty earlier.  Looks to be some setting for a city.  Would love to know about those mountains, skiing/walking etc.  


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on March 05, 2016, 10:24:47 AM
Everton announce reduction in ALL Season Ticket prices for next season.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcufWJzW0AEBDJS.jpg)


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: PokerBroker on March 05, 2016, 10:53:08 AM
Well played Everton.   


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: booder on March 05, 2016, 12:45:33 PM
Well played Everton.   


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on March 09, 2016, 01:55:10 PM
Premier League clubs have agreed to cap away ticket prices at £30 http://dailym.ai/24Qsqhg 


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on March 09, 2016, 01:56:35 PM
every club agreed to cap for 3 years, coinciding with the new £5.1bn tv deal

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdG5_MOWIAAGi9D.jpg)


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: baldock92 on March 09, 2016, 03:07:22 PM
Great news that away games are capped. I spent £41 going to villa park earlier this season for some crap football, but worst of all they couldn't/ wouldn't serve alcohol in the away end.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2016, 03:19:26 PM
Great news that away games are capped. I spent £41 going to villa park earlier this season for some crap football, but worst of all they couldn't/ wouldn't serve alcohol in the away end.

The home fans probably drank it all, after having to put up with the shit they're putting out on the park.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: booder on March 09, 2016, 03:42:55 PM
Well done to all supporters who protested and made this happen.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on March 09, 2016, 06:51:32 PM
Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham were the four clubs who voted against the £30 ticket cap

just lol


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: horseplayer on March 09, 2016, 06:55:19 PM
Obviously good news

In my opinion being charged £16 for a conference south game is a bigger scandal than being charged £40 for a premiership game.

Same goes for League Two and League One


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Doobs on March 09, 2016, 06:56:29 PM
Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham were the four clubs who voted against the £30 ticket cap

just lol

It is reported on bbc as unanimous? 


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on March 09, 2016, 06:59:27 PM
Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham were the four clubs who voted against the £30 ticket cap

just lol

It is reported on bbc as unanimous? 

oh. i may stand corrected then. it is reported elswhere as on majority. 14 of 20 required, got 16


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: TightEnd on March 09, 2016, 07:00:38 PM
Obviously good news

In my opinion being charged £16 for a conference south game is a bigger scandal than being charged £40 for a premiership game.

Same goes for League Two and League One

gate receipts a much bigger proportion of club income. not as easy to cut

across the 20 clubs in the prem this will cost £33m and all 40 are at least £40m better off from the new deal so its not a big cost to do it


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: horseplayer on March 09, 2016, 07:02:08 PM
Obviously good news

In my opinion being charged £16 for a conference south game is a bigger scandal than being charged £40 for a premiership game.

Same goes for League Two and League One

gate receipts a much bigger proportion of club income. not as easy to cut

across the 20 clubs in the prem this will cost £33m and all 40 are at least £40m better off from the new deal so its not a big cost to do it

No doubt about that

However purely on what you are watching you will struggle to see a bigger difference in quality in any sport for something quite closely priced.

Since i have started scouting a lot of "old boys" tell me they cant afford to support their non league side that is madness. Obviously players are paid at that level far to much for their ability.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 09, 2016, 09:41:15 PM
Was supposed to be announced last month I understand, but 7 clubs weren't having it; City, united, Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal and I think it was West Ham.

Obv a couple of those have had a change of heart and its all go now. Now just to get stand alone home prices more in line and we have some excellent progress. Match day revenue makes up such a tiny %age of a clubs revenue, really no excuse to charge £50+ for some fixtures.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: arbboy on March 09, 2016, 09:48:08 PM
Find this whole thing incredible.  Waiting for Prada to be told they can't sell their shoes for £500 a pair and have to reduce their prices to topman shoe level circa £80 because they are a top end luxury brand and have to appeal to the masses because your average joe who earns the minimum wage can't afford them and we have to pander to his needs because he should be able to afford a luxury product.

Truely comical how a business with a fixed supply of product (ie seats in their stadium) is told how they should under price their product.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: DungBeetle on March 09, 2016, 10:05:04 PM
Find this whole thing incredible.  Waiting for Prada to be told they can't sell their shoes for £500 a pair and have to reduce their prices to topman shoe level circa £80 because they are a top end luxury brand and have to appeal to the masses because your average joe who earns the minimum wage can't afford them and we have to pander to his needs because he should be able to afford a luxury product.

Truely comical how a business with a fixed supply of product (ie seats in their stadium) is told how they should under price their product.

Long term vision as a counter argument.  Atmospheres with few away fans reduce the value of the theatre for future tv deals.  I've declined a few away trips this season because the ticket price is taking the mikey once you've added in the travel hassle/costs.  Chelsea away being an example.  I'm skipping Norwich as well due to their high prices.


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: Tal on March 09, 2016, 10:16:22 PM
Find this whole thing incredible.  Waiting for Prada to be told they can't sell their shoes for £500 a pair and have to reduce their prices to topman shoe level circa £80 because they are a top end luxury brand and have to appeal to the masses because your average joe who earns the minimum wage can't afford them and we have to pander to his needs because he should be able to afford a luxury product.

Truely comical how a business with a fixed supply of product (ie seats in their stadium) is told how they should under price their product.

These are the same shoe-lovers who demand Prada get the best designers and the best materials and say money should be no object. They demand Prada stay at the absolute top of haute couture and will moan at every London, New York and Milan Fashion weeks and every Spring/Summer and Autumn/Winter collections about the new lines not being inventive enough. 


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: vegaslover on March 09, 2016, 10:23:09 PM
Obviously good news

In my opinion being charged £16 for a conference south game is a bigger scandal than being charged £40 for a premiership game.

Same goes for League Two and League One

gate receipts a much bigger proportion of club income. not as easy to cut

across the 20 clubs in the prem this will cost £33m and all 40 are at least £40m better off from the new deal so its not a big cost to do it

No doubt about that

However purely on what you are watching you will struggle to see a bigger difference in quality in any sport for something quite closely priced.

Since i have started scouting a lot of "old boys" tell me they cant afford to support their non league side that is madness. Obviously players are paid at that level far to much for their ability.

Ridic price for the standard, which is awful much of the time. Brighton opening the Amex has damaged some teams in Sussex as for not much more money, the standard and experience so much better.



Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: arbboy on March 09, 2016, 10:24:41 PM
All you do putting these prices at £30 is make ticket touts rich.  They are highly advanced nowadays and will snap up these £30 tickets doing whatever it takes to get their hands on them and sell them on Stubhub for the 'correct' market rate.  The clubs lose, the real fans lose and the touts win.  You can't take on market forces and win. 


Title: Re: After Liverpool ticket price climb-down what are other changes fans want to see?
Post by: BorntoBubble on March 10, 2016, 12:49:23 AM
Agreed United ticket exchanges are a joke way into three figures is the going rate for most United away days.