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Title: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: theprawnidentity on February 24, 2016, 07:03:20 PM
I had a spot yesterday that's both sort of interesting and not at the same time.  Playing a 1/2 game on Sky, I don't know anything about villain but suspect they're a fish as they're not playing a full stack.

We m/r button to £4 with  Ahrt Ac
Villain playing £137 to start calls from BB

Flop  Aspades 7h 7c

Check Check (Fairly obvious I would have thought)

Turn  7d  Check Check  (Would usually bet most turns to try and start building a pot but this feels like an odd one as theres still not really much out there to get any sort of value from)

River  Tc  Villain bets £4.50 (into £9), we raise to £15.50 they jam £135.  

Thoughts on all streets, particularly river appreciated?


Title: Re: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: lucky_scrote on February 25, 2016, 01:28:57 AM
I would bet turn in the hope he will call with K high. You will only get one street of value from this most of the time so may as well bet the turn, if he rivers a boat you might get lucky and get two streets.

Obviously there is no river decision here, cry yourself to sleep and muck it.


Title: Re: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: dakky on March 06, 2016, 12:09:23 PM
bet flop


Title: Re: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: rfgqqabc on March 06, 2016, 12:15:31 PM
Not folding river as I think he bets bigger with quads and we are underrepped.

I would always check the flop.


Title: Re: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: PathFinder on March 06, 2016, 01:11:36 PM
Not folding river as I think he bets bigger with quads and we are underrepped.

I would always check the flop.

Surely the reason villian doesn't bet bigger is because we are under-repped??


Title: Re: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: rfgqqabc on March 06, 2016, 05:55:27 PM
Not folding river as I think he bets bigger with quads and we are underrepped.

I would always check the flop.

Surely the reason villian doesn't bet bigger is because we are under-repped??

If I have quads vs an inelastic calling range (I.e a calling range of ax+) then it is non sensical to bet a small size vs an opponent with no perceived bluffing range. We are better off betting large with everything, and I feel like this is a concept that is instinctual rather than something that is learnt. It looks really dumb to call the river looking back. Hard to fold tho.


Title: Re: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: cambridgealex on March 06, 2016, 06:32:47 PM
Not folding river as I think he bets bigger with quads and we are underrepped.

I would always check the flop.

Surely the reason villian doesn't bet bigger is because we are under-repped??

If I have quads vs an inelastic calling range (I.e a calling range of ax+) then it is non sensical to bet a small size vs an opponent with no perceived bluffing range. We are better off betting large with everything, and I feel like this is a concept that is instinctual rather than something that is learnt. It looks really dumb to call the river looking back. Hard to fold tho.

I think guy not playing a full stack is not thinking like this. He's thinking "i'll try and milk him for a little bet". Then he gets raised and he's like whoop "he has the ace", gets greedy and shoves.


Title: Re: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: PathFinder on March 06, 2016, 06:48:07 PM
Is there a small chance villian can have 1010? Would play similar to quads. Obviously pre flop would be a little nitty for 10s but not completely unreasonable


Title: Re: AA on A77 flop... River decision????
Post by: shipitgood on March 13, 2016, 11:15:49 AM
The massive over bet jam On sky really looks like quads, always the nuts when this happens!  A x or  1010 would be played differently by villian