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Title: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: DaveShoelace on May 02, 2016, 11:15:57 PM
I'm sure there are some, but I am at a loss to think of a bigger upset than Leicester winning the title, simply because of the consistency needed to win the league compared to a good run of form in a cup style competition (Like Greece in the Euros) or any single match (Like Buster Douglas).

Anyone suggest any bigger upsets?


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: david3103 on May 02, 2016, 11:19:52 PM
Steeple Sinderby Wanderers winning the FA Cup?



Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: The Camel on May 02, 2016, 11:21:17 PM
Tikay winning one of the blondepoker competitions was pretty unlikely.


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: Tal on May 02, 2016, 11:27:17 PM
Think it's been confirmed Leicester winning the league at 5,000/1 is the biggest upset in sport as a single event in sporting history.

Tikay winning one of the blondepoker competitions was pretty unlikely.

It's been a crazy year, hasn't it?


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: The Camel on May 03, 2016, 12:16:06 AM
John Daly winning the USPGA in 1991 was pretty unlikely.

He was extremely unlikely to even get in the tournament as he was the 9th alternate but when Nick Price Price withdrew the night before play, the 8th in front of Daly all refused the invitation.

I have no idea what odds he was (not 5000/1) but 2 days before teeing off he must have been a huge price to even play.

He did have a couple of top tens in PGA events before winning the PGA but was relatively unknown.


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: rinswun on May 03, 2016, 01:07:10 AM
Denmark 1992 at the time of the initial draw?


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: arbboy on May 03, 2016, 01:13:37 AM
Plenty of pre race 1000/1 shots have won on horse racing markets on betfair for decent money which would imply the true odds were probably way above 1000/1 (1000/1 is the ceiling price bf exchange can offer).  If bigger than 1000/1 prices could have been offered on the exchange they probably would have been in several of these cases.


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: exstream on May 03, 2016, 01:34:48 AM
Plenty of pre race 1000/1 shots have won on horse racing markets on betfair for decent money which would imply the true odds were probably way above 1000/1 (1000/1 is the ceiling price bf exchange can offer).  If bigger than 1000/1 prices could have been offered on the exchange they probably would have been in several of these cases.

Why is Max 1000 and will it change


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: degston77 on May 03, 2016, 01:57:44 AM
Been thinking about this tonight.  And in my lifetime, as shocks go (irrespective of betting price) i think it probably is.  Greece winning the euros, Wimbledon beating Liverpool and buster Douglas beating tyson are the closest i can think of. 



Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: baldock92 on May 03, 2016, 04:27:55 AM
Francis Ouimet winning the open as an amateur back in like 1907?


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: dino1980 on May 03, 2016, 04:52:49 AM
Certainly not bigger upsets as they're single events but USA beating England in the 1950 World Cup & The Miracle of Bern in 1954 are up there, considering Hungary had beat West Germany 8-3 just two weeks prior (the Germans had new boots apparently though.)


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: flushthemout on May 03, 2016, 08:12:20 AM
Read Jon Daly auto biography, he flew to Vegas after winning it in 1991, done 4mill, top golf manufactures offered to sponsor him.... Jon requested 4 mill to pay his debt off.


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: teddybloat on May 03, 2016, 08:56:39 AM
Pre meeting odds of dettori riding all seven winners?


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: Newportlad on May 03, 2016, 10:28:23 AM
I've been thinking about this, and Leicester's achievement tops all the others I can think of:

Keith Dellor

Joe Johnson

Boris Becker


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 10:40:27 AM
Leicester's title is the biggest upset in sporting history. analysis for The Economist

 http://econ.st/26MmmY4


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: superwomble on May 03, 2016, 10:42:31 AM
Been thinking about this tonight.  And in my lifetime, as shocks go (irrespective of betting price) i think it probably is.  Greece winning the euros, Wimbledon beating Liverpool and buster Douglas beating tyson are the closest i can think of. 



I think Wimbledon beating Liverpool as a one-off event, although a massive upset at the time, has to be considered in the wider context to realise just how massive it was. At the time it was a top-flight team beating a better top-flight team, but 11 years previously Wimbledon were a non-league team - I would think the real odds on a non-league team, at the time of no automatic promotion, to get promoted to the league, all the way to the top flight, and then win the FA Cup, in 11 years, would have been far higher than 5000/1!


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: Doobs on May 03, 2016, 11:12:17 AM
What about Notts Forest 77-78? 

They won the then first division and league cup just after getting promotion.  They had to compete with a Liverpool side in their pomp, who had just won the European Cup and the league title 3 years running (and they did the year after).  Forest then went on to win the European Cup the season after.  No idea what the odds to win the league quoted were at the start of the season, but the real odds can't have been far away.  To then win the two cups on top, must have been a more unlikely series of events than Leicester only winning the league.

Leicester City haven't even caused the biggest ever sporting shock produced by a football team from the Midlands!

Well done though, great achievement. 


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 11:16:55 AM
they have because the football landscape is so different. no huge european sides to beat back then (malmo and hamburg in the finals?), much more level playing field domestically.

clough could buy the best goalkeeper (shilton), right back (viv), strikers (francis for a huge back then £1m, woodcock)in the country etc with little competition and fantastically beat liverpol to the title, but there wasn't much other competition

certainly not competition with wage bills  5x yours...



Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on May 03, 2016, 01:39:49 PM
Montpellier won the French league a few years ago with a squad budget of about £30m. This was when PSG and Monaco were first splashing the cash and the league was somewhat competitive. Think they were 80/1 to win the league. This is the closest I can think of in recent times and it doesn't come close to what Leicester have done.


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2016, 02:58:46 PM
Premier League's Richard Scudamore tells BBC that LCFC

"biggest sports story ever and the biggest sporting achievement ever."

surely the first part of that is wrong, probably the second part too.



Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: Simon Galloway on May 03, 2016, 03:07:25 PM
Did I read somewhere that while you could get 5000/1 on Leics winning PL, they would only lay you 4000/1 that the Pope got picked for Rangers?!


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: Rexas on May 03, 2016, 03:28:41 PM
It's not close to the Leicester achievement, but the most exciting sporting upset I've watched by far was Japan beating South Africa in the Rugby world cup last time round. That moment where they were given a draw and didn't take it was incredible to witness.


Title: Re: Biggest upsets in sporting history?
Post by: david3103 on May 03, 2016, 04:46:40 PM
Pretty sure that before 'that Mark Robbins goal' you could have got 5,000/1 on SAF leading Manchester United to 13 League titles.

But that's nit-picking.

Leicester's achievement this season will go down in history as The Biggest Upset Ever.