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You all know I'm a Wednesday fan. But have been placed in an awkward situation.

I believe I was first to get a Wednesday ticket through see tickets for the play-off final on Saturday, through priority of being one of their clients. I was somehow able to purchase ten, but took 4 as I had no plans for ten, but thought I could use 4. I was chuffed at this point as I had no priority points, but had only been to away matches.

I knew that I was working in Lobdon that evening anyway, so was amazed that things worked so well. I never thought that there would be any possible problem with getting a couple of hours off & making it up. I had to be in the venue at 7pm to set up and was expecting 1000+ guests into the nightclub for this particular event. Obviously it has created a problem as its my event and it comes with licensing issues.

I am paid a significant amount for that night.

What do you choose football or money?

What I did:

Cash, but I'm not a huge football fan :D

Go to Wembley obv.

In ten years time you won't remeber the money you earned, but you will remember the day at Wembley.

the event, quite clearly. has to take priority if its important, let alone for any financial considerations

and no wonder regular fans can't get tickets sometimes when idiots like see tickets can offer 10 out to a single person.

Go to the match and it's not even close
As said memories of your team in big games will last for years Good luck
Would love to see Wednesday in the PL

Definitely see the game. I was offered a significant amount for my FA cup final ticket 5 years ago but there was no chance I'd have sold it.

Best of luck to Wednesday, would love to see them back in the premier league.

I'm sure I recall you are an armchair supporter who doesn't attend games and that, even if you wanted to,  you couldn't justify paying £30 for a home ticket. Assuming that iis the case, your  big work event and the financial considerations sounds more improtant to me than a football match.

I don't attend the home games, but go to a few of the away games. Is that an armchair supporter?

There have been at least 4-5 games at Hillsborough this season where its been £20 to get in, yet you refused to go on principle because prices were too high.

What price did you pay for Wembley tickets Aaron?

One up from an armchair supporter. Not that there is anything wrong in being an armchair supporter.



 

The final and its not even close. What's the point in money if your not going to spend be given experiences anyway.

Go to the match bud, cash is just cash.

Good luck to Wednesday too.

Arm chair supporters subsidise the match attending supporters enjoyment nowadays more than ever before. 

Obviously go to the match.  Surely you can find someone to fill in for your duties (whatever they are) or explain to the client the uniqueness of the situation.   If you say it in the right manner to the right client he might send you on your way with a smile on his face as well.

Depends how much

Cash obv.

Depends whether it impacts future earnings. If you don't earn some amount because you go to the final, then it's a relatively small one-off cost. If it impacts your reputation and likelihood of getting future work then it is significantly more costly.

No biggie - trips to Wembley are ten a penny.

I mean, I *already* got to go 25 & 23yrs ago, from when all I can really remember is:

- my dad's mate Soggis thinking the Walkers blue packet offer was just the salt and being livid that he didn't find it until the dregs of the pack.

- another Wedmesday fan who had set out Star Wars models (?!) in the aisles.

- everyone seeming really disappointed compared to when Waddle banged in a screamer / John Sheridan won us the cup in '91.

- being really sad without fully understanding why given I was 4 / 6 years old and Wembley trips *were* ten a penny.

So yeah, there'll be 'PLENTY' of other chances at it whereas 'club night' one offs where you might nick £5-6,000 (which is, don't get me wrong, a considerable sum of money) hardly ever come about.

23 years is a long time. A whole generation.

Have a word with yourself, Arron. It's only money and it comes and goes. You will never, ever, regret turning down just another work night for the chance to be present on Saturday.

Welcome to big school

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If you don't go and they lose, you will always wonder whether your missing voice was the cause.

If you don't go and they win, you will have missed that major buzz of seeing your club, your team winning 'The Richest Prize in Football'.

Seriously though, if you are even having to ask the question then you should just give the tickets to someone who really wants them. Give them away, you'll make more than enough at your club night to cover the cost.

Never do this.  This is the nut worse outcome.  If you are not going tout them online for the best price and make money in your job so you win both ways.  If not go to the game. You will make the same at the club night whatever.  If you don't go to the game you have to max your loss of enjoyment from not going by touting your tickets for the maximum. I assume Weds will sell out and you can sell the tickets at a decent premium?

Lol @ arb.

Selling the tickets at a premium to a fellow Wednesday fan is the nut worst thing to do.

Also, it seems that it's a bit more complicated than just telling the nightclub you can't make
It. You seem to be a key figure in the whole organising/running, rather than just doing a shift behind the bar.

Life's a bitch etc. Do the job, hopefully get promoted and then you'll have plenty time to watch Wednesday in big games.

Rutter will pay over the odds in his stupid Sheff Weds outfit he wears!

Giving them away to someone who otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford to go is the nut best. You've probably done the cost in an hour on a FOBT in the past, make someone's day, feel good about yourself.
Win/win.

This.  Anyone even suggesting touting is an utter scumbag imo. 

Surely that's just a matter of opinion.

I'm not a football fan, and I don't know anything about fan etiquette, but if I had those tickets and touting them wasn't illegal (I have no idea if it is or isn't BTW) I would tout them in a heartbeat without even the slightest inkling that I was doing anything wrong.

Football may be a worthy cause, but I have several causes that I think are more worthy of spending a couple of grand on.

We're all different, we all have different priorities.

I don't think that makes me an utter scumbag.

Obviously this.

In the real world, it's no different to having really nice Kylie Minogue tickets, good seats at the next Anthony Joshua fight, X Factor final tickets, T20 Finals Day tickets, an audience with Pele, signed copies of all the Game of Thrones books or a hearty snog from David Gandy.

There would be someone out there who would pay more for these things than the prawn sandwich seats at the Championship Playoff Final. (Might not all be the same person, granted. Unless they're a Blades fan, maybe)

Giving them to someone who couldn't afford to go is a lovely gesture. So is selling them to the highest bidder and using the money for good purposes. But selling them and keeping the money isn't a bad thing either. Buying the tickets en bloc with the intention of then selling them off to the highest bidder is less pleasant, of course.

If doing something makes you a good person, not doing it doesn't necessarily make you a bad one.

Wednesday had an allocation of c38K and c33K were sold to their core supporter base of ST holders, Members and others qualifying who had  accumulated poinst for attending games. The other 5k went on general sale and sold quickly. Demand outsrips supply and I've read about Wednesday fans buying tickets from Hull.

Without getting into the "tout or not tout" issue, you need to remember Aaron doesn't attend home games out of principle because he objects to the Wednesday ticket pricing policy. Although RickBFA has pointed out several times that there are competively priced tickets available for many games, including £20 for the play off semi-final, Aaron sticks to his guns and won't attend - not because he doesn't want to but because of his principles and presumably the exploitation of Wednesday supporters by the owners. Presumably, therefore, it would be somewhat hypocritical  for him to sell on tickets at an inflated profit.

Touting is ok if money is the thing that makes you feel good about yourself. Doesn't make you a scumbag, utter or otherwise.

FYI, technically the resale of football tickets  is illegal under section 166 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994.  If someone is convicted of ticket touting at football matches under UK law, they may be liable to a fine of up to £5,000 and have a football banning order imposed upon them.


 It is not illegal for concerts etc.

Does the same apply to corporate seats if it has the company's consent? Presumably, that's the situation here.

And yes of course, all my post is to be interpreted as within the confines of the law. Like RED-DOG, I was just speaking from a moral perspective.

Yes it's illegal.

I would never sell a ticket to a fellow Wednesday fan for more than face value.

Some things are worth more than money.

I was trying to help a friend get a ticket and was offered it for £180. Told them I was not interested.

I might be in a minority but it's just not on.

At the end of the day WAWAW? Football is a tribal thing and I'm not going to shaft one of my own for a few quid.

What if your daughter had been kidnapped, you had just received her ear in the post and you could sell the ticket to an eccentric millionaire for the exact ransom amount?

That's a rather contrived scenario that is so far removed from reality to be just daft.

RedDog, you would be loyal to your own wouldn't you? I might be crazy but I don't want to exploit other Wednesday fans.

What Rick said.

Is this your latest money making scheme? Don't get any ideas :-)

I thought it was far enough removed from reality that people would see it as a joke.

My bad  :D

I'd never tout to a fan of the same team. Last season I had a season ticket but I couldn't make the final game of the season, which happened to be Steven Gerrard's final game for Liverpool. If I were to sell it to a fellow Stokie I'd never sell for any more than the ticket would have cost, but as soon as I found out Liverpool fans were willing to pay a premium I was more than happy to take the cash and put the money towards something useful. I have no loyalty towards Liverpool or their fans, so taking the cash was a no brainer. Maybe this makes me a scumbag, I couldn't give a shit.

edit: Actually this definitely makes me a scumbag. A scouser 5x face value to sit among the stoke fans in the boothen end and watch his team get torn apart  ;whistle;

Sell tickets to Hull fans obviously :)

Seriously though whole thread is just a brag on OPs part.

1. Hey I never turn up to Hillsborough but I've got 4 tickets, in fact I could of got 10. (By the way, why did you get 4, are the other 3 people going to the game?).

2. I've got a gig same night where I will make loads of £s.

OP has a habit of these brag conundrums

In reality I think he has

1. Pub night where 3 guys rely on him to do the quiz
2. 4 tickets to the local amateur curling cup

Which looking at it now, would be a hard choice!

Pretty standard 'etiquette' among club fans not to sell over face value, it's how I get most tickets for my team(usually throw a drink on top)but it's an open market so if someone wants to make a quick buck its up to them wouldn't say it's a crime that bothers me much

I had made the decision before I made this thread. It's fair to say that I could not have handled it any worse.

I have hired the venue in question and everything stands in my name. At this time, I've not done any research on the football and any potential play off fixture. Luckily enough I am able to get 4 tickets and glad I'm in London that weekend anyway working, assuming me opening/setting up late would not be a problem. Obviously they say it's huge and are unwilling to negotiate due to any unforeseen circumstances and breach of licensing.

I try working this round for days after & I had to conclude that I couldn't go to the football or the event wouldn't happen. I give the tickets to a family member.

Days later, after giving the tickets away, I get a ring from the club owner. He's changed his mind and as long as I'm in the nightclub an hour before opening, he will ok it. Oh great! I've not got a ticket now.

So I've had to get a ticket from elsewhere. Which has cost me a small fortune & not where I want to be.

Could have handled it better.

Dunno, think you've handled it well, imo.

Hope the event goes well, and the match is enjoyable.

Handled it like a tit! I could have tried to handle my absence 2 weeks ago, but decided to do it after I got the tickets. D'oh. PS - thanks

Surprised a big Wednesday fan would arrange something important without first checking the potential clash with the play off final.

Who else is going then? I've never been to Wembley before, I've been giddy like a school kid all week.

I'll be there, got tickets then managed to get 4 extra in a box as a favour. Means I can help out a few lads who are Wednesday fans but don't go as regularly as they used to.

Should be fun.

Me, Father and Sister Gascoigne will be there. Dangling this bad boy off the balcony:
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Hull haven't sold out, which is pretty small time for a £100m winner takes all match

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Such a shame. And there have been significant numbers of Wednesday fans buying tickets in Hull end too.

Seems Hull asked for same, maximum allocation as us, I guess didn't want more Wednesday fans there than their own fans.

A friend of mine was down at the ground this week and spoke to someone senior at the club who said when the remaining 5,000 went on general sale there were 25,000 online trying to buy them.

Ha - thought the same. I'm surprised that someone who wont spend £20 for the play-off semi final based on some principle about prices is prepared to pay a small fortune for a final ticket.

They've still sold 37000 tickets I think. Not fair to call that smalltime IMO when there isn't that historic level of sipport at the club compared to Wednesday and when you also consider the novelty of going to Wembley doesn't apply because it is their 4th visit in recent years.

Anway good luck to all the Wednesday fans on here who are going today and hope it is a magical day for you.

I'd like to see Wednesday win today. Decent fans and a lot of turmoil in the past few years. Feel they would add more to the Prem than Hull.

Enjoy the day. Every time I've watched Brentford at Wembley I've loved it, despite us losing on each occasion!

Not exactly a cheap day out at Wembley for the Northerner's from Hull.  The town is hardly awash with cash.  Think 37k is a decent effort.  Pretty shocked the FA gave both clubs equal seat numbers from the start.

Agree with this.  GL today all Wednesday fans.  Love the flag Ed! 

This feels just like the QPR/Derby final from a couple of years back. Hull dominating but can't score. Going to be a late Wednesday winner with Nuhui in the Zamora role.

Or not. Fair play to Hull, much the better team on the day.

Sheff wed very poor. Hull have some very good players for champo level.

Could only hear sheff Wednesday fans (until the goal).

Hull deserved the win. Better team.

Wednesday were poor and Hull exploited Loovens at the back.

PS Hull must have sold around 28-30k not anywhere near 37k.

Indeed but they did take a very big crowd for rugby last weekend. Wednesday are a much bigger club than hull who were in fourth tier with us (bottom of league also). You could have sold 65k probably but 35k of them would be plastic fans.

I thought the Wednesday fans were great. Made massive amounts of noise despite their team badly under performing.

Shame about your day sir.

I'd read Hull  had 1000 left from their allocation of c38K which clearly a nonsense. Hull Daily Mail reporting yesterday that they actually sold 26,000.

Hull were by far the better team, very well executed plan by Steve Bruce.

The amount of empty seats in the Hull end was quite an embarrassment for them, even when they lifted the trophy we had more fans in the stadium than them. Shame really because our fans could have easily filled another 10,000 seats.

Thanks. Got to take these things on the chin, fair play to Steve Bruce. He set his team up perfectly for the game.

You're numbers on fans might be right. I was lucky to be in a box just into the Hull side and in the section in front of us it was 50-60% Wednesday fans. Good to see no trouble with fans sat together.