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Title: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on January 26, 2017, 10:27:57 AM

It's that time of year again......


http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on January 26, 2017, 10:29:03 AM

Who will be going this year?

What events do you plan to play?

Where you staying?



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: booder on January 26, 2017, 11:15:04 AM
1 % please.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on January 26, 2017, 11:54:21 AM
Unless the $ drops below 1.20 we will be going mid June to July
Staying at the south point
Golden nugget
More of a lying in the sun holiday
But will play Omaha up to $1500
Plus a few donkaments downtown
Dinner n vodka fuelled nights with marky 147 planned oi oi
Looking at flights now


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Knottikay on January 26, 2017, 01:00:47 PM
1 % please.

1% too please.

+ 1% of Main Event package.

Going to give it a big push this year to finally get my 1st visit in. If not by binking packages, hopefully getting a few of the lads together for a quiet break over there.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on January 26, 2017, 03:47:45 PM
June  18th - July 5th @ Golden Nugget

Be more Hotdogs & Burgers than last year, unless Trump totally blows the US economy and gets us back to ~$1.5 ;D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: hhyftrftdr on January 26, 2017, 10:29:38 PM
There for the first week of the series, slumming it in Excalibur. This exchange rate means no more $5 tips for 2/3 drinks, strictly $1 per drink going forward!

Gonna have to find a flight back to Cardiff though if City get to the Champions League final ;)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: redsimon on January 27, 2017, 09:23:34 AM

Who will be going this year?

What events do you plan to play?

Where you staying?



3 June to 17 June

Will play some WSOP SNG sats and if lucky a couple of $1500 events (HORSE and 8 Game on while I'm there)

Mostly Golden Nugget and Binions otherwise

Staying Downtown at the "D" .


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: brookie on January 28, 2017, 09:14:13 PM
Think the $$$ will stop a lot off people from going


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: cambridgealex on January 28, 2017, 10:08:14 PM
Will be there for most of the series. Taking the mrs for the first two weeks for her first trip there, looking forward to showing her the place the most. Being there for someone's first trip to Vegas is always special. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: aaron1867 on January 29, 2017, 09:36:40 AM
Think the $$$ will stop a lot off people from going

Do you think so?

I would have thought whilst it isn't ideal, that the pros will still go, because they are making profit. If you're making profit, then surely the exchange rate can be slightly irrelevant. The higher costs of trips must be the biggest issue?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: cambridgealex on January 29, 2017, 01:33:44 PM
Think the $$$ will stop a lot off people from going

It makes the trip higher stakes for us brits, so for the pros- it's a good thing.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on January 29, 2017, 02:02:14 PM
Think the $$$ will stop a lot off people from going

It makes the trip higher stakes for us brits, so for the pros- it's a good thing.

But you have higher expenses and the tournaments are no bigger.  Unless you are planning on playing mostly cash, I can't see it as a good thing.  Even then your meals, daily costs aren't going to be cheaper in the currency you are playing in, so it isn't much of a win. Maybe a bit of swings and roundabouts at best.   

For me, paying 50% more for hotels and getting less for air miles is a big difference.   

Guess if you can average ther flights over longer then it isn't so bad.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: cambridgealex on January 29, 2017, 04:41:05 PM
Think the $$$ will stop a lot off people from going

It makes the trip higher stakes for us brits, so for the pros- it's a good thing.

But you have higher expenses and the tournaments are no bigger.  Unless you are planning on playing mostly cash, I can't see it as a good thing.  Even then your meals, daily costs aren't going to be cheaper in the currency you are playing in, so it isn't much of a win. Maybe a bit of swings and roundabouts at best.  

For me, paying 50% more for hotels and getting less for air miles is a big difference.  

Guess if you can average ther flights over longer then it isn't so bad.


Lets say 2016 $1= £0.60

Flights of $1k = £600
Expenses of $3k = £1800
=£2400 total

Tournament buyins $30,000
ROI 50% (number is arbitrary) = $15,000
ROI in GBP = £9000

2016 EV of trip = £6600

-----------------------------------------

Let's say 2017 $1 = £0.80

Flights of $1k = £800
Expenses of $3k = £2400
=£3200 total

Tournament buyins $30,000
ROI 50% (number is arbitrary) = $15,000
ROI in GBP = £12000

2017 EV of trip = £8800


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on January 29, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
Think the $$$ will stop a lot off people from going

It makes the trip higher stakes for us brits, so for the pros- it's a good thing.

But you have higher expenses and the tournaments are no bigger.  Unless you are planning on playing mostly cash, I can't see it as a good thing.  Even then your meals, daily costs aren't going to be cheaper in the currency you are playing in, so it isn't much of a win. Maybe a bit of swings and roundabouts at best.  

For me, paying 50% more for hotels and getting less for air miles is a big difference.  

Guess if you can average ther flights over longer then it isn't so bad.


Lets say 2016 $1= £0.60

Flights of $1k = £600
Expenses of $3k = £1800
=£2400 total

Tournament buyins $30,000
ROI 50% (number is arbitrary) = $15,000
ROI in GBP = £9000

2016 EV of trip = £6600

-----------------------------------------

Let's say 2017 $1 = £0.80

Flights of $1k = £800
Expenses of $3k = £2400
=£3200 total

Tournament buyins $30,000
ROI 50% (number is arbitrary) = $15,000
ROI in GBP = £12000

2017 EV of trip = £8800

For me 2016. Flight £300 + miles.  Hotel £900.  Others £500
Buy ins $8000

ROI -100% (genuine)

Cost -£7000

Meh

Edit.  Forgot I cashed in the daily at the Wynn.  Maybe it was -£6500


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: shipitgood on January 29, 2017, 06:19:20 PM
Vegas newbie here :)

For flights & hotel for 2 weeks Travel agents were talking about 2k£ for the Monte Carlo.

A quick look on Expedia showed flights + hotel @ 5 star being 2.3k+, 3/4 star from 1.5k, but they all include an extra "services charge", the travel agent said all hotels impose this charge.

Any suggestions or recommendations for hotels on the main strip?



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on January 29, 2017, 06:53:28 PM
Vegas newbie here :)

For flights & hotel for 2 weeks Travel agents were talking about 2k£ for the Monte Carlo.

A quick look on Expedia showed flights + hotel @ 5 star being 2.3k+, 3/4 star from 1.5k, but they all include an extra "services charge", the travel agent said all hotels impose this charge.

Any suggestions or recommendations for hotels on the main strip?



What dates.  Is it for 1 or 2.  For 2 it seems excessive.  For 1, covering EDC, maybe just what you need to pay. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
PokerNews returns to the World Series of Poker as the official live reporting team after a two-year absence, but is that a good thing for the poker community?

http://calvinayre.com/2017/03/08/poker/pokernews-returns-wsop-fold-good-thing/?platform=hootsuite


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on March 08, 2017, 07:01:40 PM
Is it really important to get coverage of tournies before the bubble? Of course in the money and the run to the final people will be rooting, but for day one, does there need to be any coverage at all? Just publish the chip counts and start the blog for day two.

 It strikes me that poker tournament reporting hasn't evolved at all in 10-15 years. Nobody has come up with a new and exciting way of reporting what is going on. Maybe there isn't one?

So yeah, I mean does it need to be opened up to competition. One company covers the event, seems fine.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 08, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
Is it really important to get coverage of tournies before the bubble? Of course in the money and the run to the final people will be rooting, but for day one, does there need to be any coverage at all? Just publish the chip counts and start the blog for day two.

 It strikes me that poker tournament reporting hasn't evolved at all in 10-15 years. Nobody has come up with a new and exciting way of reporting what is going on. Maybe there isn't one?

So yeah, I mean does it need to be opened up to competition. One company covers the event, seems fine.

I think we do have that new way of reporting, and its live streams and feature tables and whatnot.

Probably the biggest surge in poker traffic towards the written word is the WSOP live updates (still very small compared to a live stream), whether it's worth the expense I'm not sure but there is a lot of interest there (for poker at least).

I personally just look at the chip counts too though.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on March 08, 2017, 07:47:44 PM
Is it really important to get coverage of tournies before the bubble? Of course in the money and the run to the final people will be rooting, but for day one, does there need to be any coverage at all? Just publish the chip counts and start the blog for day two.

 It strikes me that poker tournament reporting hasn't evolved at all in 10-15 years. Nobody has come up with a new and exciting way of reporting what is going on. Maybe there isn't one?

So yeah, I mean does it need to be opened up to competition. One company covers the event, seems fine.

I think we do have that new way of reporting, and its live streams and feature tables and whatnot.

Probably the biggest surge in poker traffic towards the written word is the WSOP live updates (still very small compared to a live stream), whether it's worth the expense I'm not sure but there is a lot of interest there (for poker at least).

I personally just look at the chip counts too though.

As far as I'm aware Poker News doesn't do the live streams or feature tables etc though? Their own coverage ie the blog and the live text reporting doesn't appear to have changed at all in 15 years. Not criticising the bloggers themselves at all. They often work really long hours and certainly work very hard, but nobody has thought of a more efficient, more creative or better way for the media to cover a poker tournament. I'd just like to see some ideas and creativity from the tournaments themselves of the people in charge of pokernews. If I see another gallery of photos of poker badly dressed and unshaven poker players, resting chin on elbow and looking bored. Gah!

I do dislike pokerstars these days but I enjoy the writing on their blog a lot when they go into the backstory of players or weave a bit of a story of the tournament etc. But I dunno, I just want more. Why can't we have video from the tournament. Why can't reporters carry a camera and film hands? Why can't a player wear a camera and be miced up and broadcast on a thirty minute delay during a live tourney?

Some of the new wave of poker vloggers have been given an outright ban by various casinos on filming. The sooner people in charge of poker and casinos realise things like this can really help to grow the game and look for ways to allow it rather than looking for ways to ban it, the better for everyone.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on March 08, 2017, 07:59:53 PM
Is it really important to get coverage of tournies before the bubble? Of course in the money and the run to the final people will be rooting, but for day one, does there need to be any coverage at all? Just publish the chip counts and start the blog for day two.

 It strikes me that poker tournament reporting hasn't evolved at all in 10-15 years. Nobody has come up with a new and exciting way of reporting what is going on. Maybe there isn't one?

So yeah, I mean does it need to be opened up to competition. One company covers the event, seems fine.

I think we do have that ne

w way of reporting, and its live streams and feature tables and whatnot.

Probably the biggest surge in poker traffic towards the written word is the WSOP live updates (still very small compared to a live stream), whether it's worth the expense I'm not sure but there is a lot of interest there (for poker at least).

I personally just look at the chip counts too though.

As far as I'm aware Poker News doesn't do the live streams or feature tables etc though? Their own coverage ie the blog and the live text reporting doesn't appear to have changed at all in 15 years. Not criticising the bloggers themselves at all. They often work really long hours and certainly work very hard, but nobody has thought of a more efficient, more creative or better way for the media to cover a poker tournament. I'd just like to see some ideas and creativity from the tournaments themselves of the people in charge of pokernews. If I see another gallery of photos of poker badly dressed and unshaven poker players, resting chin on elbow and looking bored. Gah!

I do dislike pokerstars these days but I enjoy the writing on their blog a lot when they go into the backstory of players or weave a bit of a story of the tournament etc. But I dunno, I just want more. Why can't we have video from the tournament. Why can't reporters carry a camera and film hands? Why can't a player wear a camera and be miced up and broadcast on a thirty minute delay during a live tourney?

Some of the new wave of poker vloggers have been given an outright ban by various casinos on filming. The sooner people in charge of poker and casinos realise things like this can really help to grow the game and look for ways to allow it rather than looking for ways to ban it, the better for everyone.

The ESPN contract specifically disallows any video filming in the WSOP rooms during play.

If I remember, I'll show you some of the onerous rules the Media are obliged to follow at the WSOP, as, by chance, I received my Media Accreditation Application a few days ago.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on March 08, 2017, 08:11:03 PM
Is it really important to get coverage of tournies before the bubble? Of course in the money and the run to the final people will be rooting, but for day one, does there need to be any coverage at all? Just publish the chip counts and start the blog for day two.

 It strikes me that poker tournament reporting hasn't evolved at all in 10-15 years. Nobody has come up with a new and exciting way of reporting what is going on. Maybe there isn't one?

So yeah, I mean does it need to be opened up to competition. One company covers the event, seems fine.

I think we do have that ne

w way of reporting, and its live streams and feature tables and whatnot.

Probably the biggest surge in poker traffic towards the written word is the WSOP live updates (still very small compared to a live stream), whether it's worth the expense I'm not sure but there is a lot of interest there (for poker at least).

I personally just look at the chip counts too though.

As far as I'm aware Poker News doesn't do the live streams or feature tables etc though? Their own coverage ie the blog and the live text reporting doesn't appear to have changed at all in 15 years. Not criticising the bloggers themselves at all. They often work really long hours and certainly work very hard, but nobody has thought of a more efficient, more creative or better way for the media to cover a poker tournament. I'd just like to see some ideas and creativity from the tournaments themselves of the people in charge of pokernews. If I see another gallery of photos of poker badly dressed and unshaven poker players, resting chin on elbow and looking bored. Gah!

I do dislike pokerstars these days but I enjoy the writing on their blog a lot when they go into the backstory of players or weave a bit of a story of the tournament etc. But I dunno, I just want more. Why can't we have video from the tournament. Why can't reporters carry a camera and film hands? Why can't a player wear a camera and be miced up and broadcast on a thirty minute delay during a live tourney?

Some of the new wave of poker vloggers have been given an outright ban by various casinos on filming. The sooner people in charge of poker and casinos realise things like this can really help to grow the game and look for ways to allow it rather than looking for ways to ban it, the better for everyone.

The ESPN contract specifically disallows any video filming in the WSOP rooms during play.

If I remember, I'll show you some of the onerous rules the Media are obliged to follow at the WSOP, as, by chance, I received my Media Accreditation Application a few days ago.

fair enough and yeah I would have thought as much as they have to protect the TV coverage. There is no reason at all why other tours can't do something more innovative though. Let's put a camera and a mic on Will Kassouf and have Kassouf cam on a 20 min delay through the tourney. Let's have players using periscope or facebook video to step away from tables and talk about hands they just played. Let's have players going on live video online and doing Q and A with fans. Let's have a tourney (not a bracelet one obv) offering a non standard structure or some kind of innovative format.

These are just random ideas off the top of my head. Surely someone could think of something good and make it happen


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: DaveShoelace on March 08, 2017, 08:18:43 PM
Is it really important to get coverage of tournies before the bubble? Of course in the money and the run to the final people will be rooting, but for day one, does there need to be any coverage at all? Just publish the chip counts and start the blog for day two.

 It strikes me that poker tournament reporting hasn't evolved at all in 10-15 years. Nobody has come up with a new and exciting way of reporting what is going on. Maybe there isn't one?

So yeah, I mean does it need to be opened up to competition. One company covers the event, seems fine.

I think we do have that new way of reporting, and its live streams and feature tables and whatnot.

Probably the biggest surge in poker traffic towards the written word is the WSOP live updates (still very small compared to a live stream), whether it's worth the expense I'm not sure but there is a lot of interest there (for poker at least).

I personally just look at the chip counts too though.

As far as I'm aware Poker News doesn't do the live streams or feature tables etc though?

That's right, I meant the industry as a whole has moved that way, not PokerNews


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2017, 11:06:12 AM
Is it really important to get coverage of tournies before the bubble? Of course in the money and the run to the final people will be rooting, but for day one, does there need to be any coverage at all? Just publish the chip counts and start the blog for day two.

 It strikes me that poker tournament reporting hasn't evolved at all in 10-15 years. Nobody has come up with a new and exciting way of reporting what is going on. Maybe there isn't one?

So yeah, I mean does it need to be opened up to competition. One company covers the event, seems fine.

I think we do have that ne

w way of reporting, and its live streams and feature tables and whatnot.

Probably the biggest surge in poker traffic towards the written word is the WSOP live updates (still very small compared to a live stream), whether it's worth the expense I'm not sure but there is a lot of interest there (for poker at least).

I personally just look at the chip counts too though.

As far as I'm aware Poker News doesn't do the live streams or feature tables etc though? Their own coverage ie the blog and the live text reporting doesn't appear to have changed at all in 15 years. Not criticising the bloggers themselves at all. They often work really long hours and certainly work very hard, but nobody has thought of a more efficient, more creative or better way for the media to cover a poker tournament. I'd just like to see some ideas and creativity from the tournaments themselves of the people in charge of pokernews. If I see another gallery of photos of poker badly dressed and unshaven poker players, resting chin on elbow and looking bored. Gah!

I do dislike pokerstars these days but I enjoy the writing on their blog a lot when they go into the backstory of players or weave a bit of a story of the tournament etc. But I dunno, I just want more. Why can't we have video from the tournament. Why can't reporters carry a camera and film hands? Why can't a player wear a camera and be miced up and broadcast on a thirty minute delay during a live tourney?

Some of the new wave of poker vloggers have been given an outright ban by various casinos on filming. The sooner people in charge of poker and casinos realise things like this can really help to grow the game and look for ways to allow it rather than looking for ways to ban it, the better for everyone.

The ESPN contract specifically disallows any video filming in the WSOP rooms during play.

If I remember, I'll show you some of the onerous rules the Media are obliged to follow at the WSOP, as, by chance, I received my Media Accreditation Application a few days ago.

fair enough and yeah I would have thought as much as they have to protect the TV coverage. There is no reason at all why other tours can't do something more innovative though. Let's put a camera and a mic on Will Kassouf and have Kassouf cam on a 20 min delay through the tourney. Let's have players using periscope or facebook video to step away from tables and talk about hands they just played. Let's have players going on live video online and doing Q and A with fans. Let's have a tourney (not a bracelet one obv) offering a non standard structure or some kind of innovative format.

These are just random ideas off the top of my head. Surely someone could think of something good and make it happen

These are the constraints as to Video that the WSOP accredited Media have to abide by.


VIDEO  

13.   Shooting of hand by hand play of any WSOP tournament is strictly prohibited.

 
14.  All organizations are prohibited from streaming live video footage from the event.  

15.   No video cameras are permitted inside the tournament room(s) without an escort from a member of the WSOP’s media team.  Escorted crews are limited to 10 minutes per day to obtain b-roll footage, of which 5 minutes of actual footage may be recorded.  

16. No player interviews are permitted inside the tournament room.  

17.  The only two exceptions to Rule #16 are during the daily bracelet ceremony, where audio and video can be shot and winner interview(s) can be obtained, or, from any available stage area that is clearly off the field of play and away from any poker table.  

18.  Video interviews may only be conducted in two specified locations:  1) The dedicated “interview room” located in Palma Ballroom, in close proximity to the Amazon Ballroom or 2) On either the Pavilion or Brasilia Ballroom Main Stage.  When picking up media credentials, video crews should identify their interest in shooting video at tournaments, and WSOP media relations staff will show them the locations.  These are the only locations where interviews are permitted.  


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: baldock92 on March 23, 2017, 02:02:56 AM
At some point over the next few years, potentially this summer but unlikely, I'll be in Vegas for a short time. It'd be a crime to not have a pop at one of the smaller buy in events during my time there. I was just wondering what the smaller events, as in the $1000, are like to play? Stuff such as the structure, difficulty of the field etc. Any in particular events which are better than others? Any help would be awesome.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on March 23, 2017, 09:18:08 AM
You get better value playing the other festivals main events - Golden Nugget, Binions, Phamous etc etc  Much better structures, great prizepools, soft fields and still a buzz in the air

$1000 WSOPs are pretty soft and I don't think the others have the same buzz.   Structures are much faster at the start in WSOPs, but they are good late on.  I haven't reached the very end of another festival main event, but I suspect big stacks at start = shovefest at the end.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: baldock92 on March 23, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
You get better value playing the other festivals main events - Golden Nugget, Binions, Phamous etc etc  Much better structures, great prizepools, soft fields and still a buzz in the air

Definitely something to keep in mind for the future, cheers. I think for a first time in Vegas during the world series I'd have to flick in for an official wsop event,  even if it means sacrificing some ev. It's fish like me that keep the pros coming back ;)

You get better value playing the other festivals main events - Golden Nugget, Binions, Phamous etc etc  Much better structures, great prizepools, soft fields and still a buzz in the air

$1000 WSOPs are pretty soft and I don't think the others have the same buzz.   Structures are much faster at the start in WSOPs, but they are good late on.  I haven't reached the very end of another festival main event, but I suspect big stacks at start = shovefest at the end.

Definitely good to hear they're not the toughest of fields, but I'd still more than likely be nearer the bottom of the food chain! Cheers doobs


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on March 23, 2017, 10:26:32 AM
You get better value playing the other festivals main events - Golden Nugget, Binions, Phamous etc etc  Much better structures, great prizepools, soft fields and still a buzz in the air

I'm not sure that's fair comment Lee - at best, it's a subjective opinion.

If we take Binions as an example, we all love playing there, despite it being a health hazard, but we should always bear in kind we are generally being charged around 18% vig on MTT entries.  

This year, the standard price points at Binions are;

$365

$475

$585

$850

And the juice on those?

$300 + $65 (21.7%)

$400 + $75 (19%)

$500 + $85 (17%)

$735 + $115 (16%)


I'm not sure any of those represent "better value" than the WSOP.

Their structures are definitely not better than the WSOP either. IMO, anyway.

Baldock MUST play Downtown at GN & Binions, every poker player should at least try those two places, they have so much "character".

Good value though, I'm not sure I buy that.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on March 23, 2017, 10:35:36 AM
Here's the MTT juice for this year's WSOP, Binions, GN, Venetian, PH, Aria, Wynn etc.

Scary reading......

(Click the "RAKE" tab at the foot of the page)


https://www.dropbox.com/s/8f949eiqi7swl7q/WSOP2017.xlsx?dl=0


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: baldock92 on March 23, 2017, 11:42:17 AM
Playing downton is definitely high on the list of things to do. Last time I was in that part of the world it was only for a 3 day trip and spent most of that time enjoying the free booze in the casinos! Definitely a slight upgrade to waiting 30 minutes for a flat coke from genting stoke. Can't wait to go back and have a good crack at more of sin city.

Edit: ***Downtown not downton. Although playing in the abbey would be fun


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on March 23, 2017, 01:58:48 PM
Where did I read that a lot of tournament senior staff have been sacked in Vegas for fiddling /robbing the rake / reentry /rebuy pot ?
Bad enough the casino takes enough out of it -they've realised it's a little gold mine
But people like to play so we get shorn like sheep all ways to xmas
Personally I've played 4/5 $1k n $1500 rio wsop jobbies  ,why ? Idk ! I can't even win at Luton these days never mind Vegas  but it's rarely the same players on the podium in these events so we live in hope  even pigeons like me !
It's ful of dreamers n shot takers n why not ?it's what makes poker what it is ,available to all ,male female young n old


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 23, 2017, 04:20:47 PM
I've been downtown a few times but only ever played there once (a satty to some Caribbean donkfest I had absolutely no interest in winning, none at all), and never played a hand of cash in that neck of the woods.

How frequently does low limit ($1/$2, $1/$3) hold em run at those places? Gonna be playing the Nugget 100k MTT first weekend of June but would like to dabble in some cash before and maybe after. Easy enough to get a game for a couple hours?

I might stand out amongst the cowboy hat wearing 70yr olds :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on March 23, 2017, 04:32:33 PM
Always 1/2 games running @ Nugget during WSOP.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 23, 2017, 05:31:57 PM
Always 1/2 games running @ Nugget during WSOP.

Ty Marky, might as well dust off a couple of buy ins as a warm up.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on March 23, 2017, 05:40:41 PM
Always 1/2 games running @ Nugget during WSOP.

Ty Marky, might as well dust off a couple of buy ins as a warm up.

Exactly what I'll be doing this summer.

I will most likely spend most of my time plotted up at the head of Claude's Bar, right outside the poker room :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: vegaslover on March 23, 2017, 06:00:47 PM
Where did I read that a lot of tournament senior staff have been sacked in Vegas for fiddling /robbing the rake / reentry /rebuy pot ?
Bad enough the casino takes enough out of it -they've realised it's a little gold mine
But people like to play so we get shorn like sheep all ways to xmas
Personally I've played 4/5 $1k n $1500 rio wsop jobbies  ,why ? Idk ! I can't even win at Luton these days never mind Vegas  but it's rarely the same players on the podium in these events so we live in hope  even pigeons like me !
It's ful of dreamers n shot takers n why not ?it's what makes poker what it is ,available to all ,male female young n old

Used to happen a lot in the small entry daily tournies on the strip i.e. $120 and under. Payouts rarely represented the players in the tournies (and on top of the 30% rake for these)
The ones that had lots of locals in were better as they were pretty keen to question the staff on the runners/prizepool


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: vegaslover on March 23, 2017, 06:02:34 PM
At some point over the next few years, potentially this summer but unlikely, I'll be in Vegas for a short time. It'd be a crime to not have a pop at one of the smaller buy in events during my time there. I was just wondering what the smaller events, as in the $1000, are like to play? Stuff such as the structure, difficulty of the field etc. Any in particular events which are better than others? Any help would be awesome.

You could try the WSOP daily tournies that run everyday. Highest buyin roughly $235 they do two other buyins every day but cannot remember the buy in for those


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on March 23, 2017, 06:17:22 PM
Always 1/2 games running @ Nugget during WSOP.

Some play big too every now n again


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on March 23, 2017, 06:26:43 PM
Always 1/2 games running @ Nugget during WSOP.

Some play big too every now n again

Unlimited sit down, so always going to happen at times.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: hhyftrftdr on March 23, 2017, 06:48:59 PM
Always 1/2 games running @ Nugget during WSOP.

Some play big too every now n again

Unlimited sit down, so always going to happen at times.

Might bring $207 to the table and sit deep.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on March 23, 2017, 06:54:32 PM
The duke of Fremont street used to sit with $10 k
I'm not sure if I heard he's died ?

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2014/04/chatting-with-the-senior-poker-tour-s-the-duke-of-fremont-st-17898.htm


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on March 23, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
At some point over the next few years, potentially this summer but unlikely, I'll be in Vegas for a short time. It'd be a crime to not have a pop at one of the smaller buy in events during my time there. I was just wondering what the smaller events, as in the $1000, are like to play? Stuff such as the structure, difficulty of the field etc. Any in particular events which are better than others? Any help would be awesome.

You could try the WSOP daily tournies that run everyday. Highest buyin roughly $235 they do two other buyins every day but cannot remember the buy in for those

4 per day this year, as below;

Daily Deepstacks

2 p.m. - $235 No-Limit Hold’em
5 p.m. - $185 No-Limit Hold’em
7 p.m. - $135 No-Limit Hold’em
9 p.m. - $365 Turbo No-Limit Hold’em


Some of these get huge fields, up to 1,400 per day & they run right through the series. They are all 1 day events.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on March 23, 2017, 07:05:03 PM
The duke of Fremont street used to sit with $10 k
I'm not sure if I heard he's died ?

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2014/04/chatting-with-the-senior-poker-tour-s-the-duke-of-fremont-st-17898.htm

Sit with 10k, and fold every hand :D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on March 23, 2017, 07:07:50 PM
The duke of Fremont street used to sit with $10 k
I'm not sure if I heard he's died ?

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2014/04/chatting-with-the-senior-poker-tour-s-the-duke-of-fremont-st-17898.htm

He was alive & well, & still strutting his stuff, as recently as 2015.

http://www.thedukeoffremontstreet.com/home.html



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on March 23, 2017, 07:09:56 PM
Always 1/2 games running @ Nugget during WSOP.

Some play big too every now n again

Unlimited sit down, so always going to happen at times.

Might bring $207 to the table and sit deep.

I'll be 6 drinks deep at the bar.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 15, 2017, 04:36:20 PM
Poker fans used to have to wait until August to start watching World Series of Poker coverage on ESPN and for the last nine years have had to wait until November to see a new world champion crowned. That's not the case anymore.

As part of a groundbreaking announcement made Monday morning, PokerCentral has become the owner of the global television and digital media rights for the WSOP and has partnered with ESPN to bring the WSOP broadcasts into a more modern era.

ESPN will broadcast roughly 40 hours of coverage of the WSOP Main Event on a 30-minute delay, including full coverage of the final table from July 20 - 22. The shows will be split between ESPN and ESPN2.

https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/pokercentral-partners-espn-wsop-no-more-november-nine-593042/


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2017, 05:00:54 PM

In case anyone did not read that properly, in short;

No more November Nine


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 15, 2017, 05:05:28 PM
A better representation of the ESPN/ESPN2 WSOP Main Event schedule. Full press release

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_3_IWnW0AAD6RN.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: strak33 on May 15, 2017, 05:21:34 PM
I care more about if the final table streams are going to be the same? With Tuchman and Nick Shulman?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on May 15, 2017, 06:26:29 PM
No more farce of players being trained before the final.

Has to be a good thing, although would prefer no rest days before the final/


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 15, 2017, 06:27:48 PM

In case anyone did not read that properly, in short;

No more November Nine

Good.  A decision that's been long overdue, IMO.  It had pretty much killed my interest in the event as a spectacle.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on May 15, 2017, 10:38:02 PM

In case anyone did not read that properly, in short;

No more November Nine

Agree with this good move also pleased to see PokerNews has the live updates back too


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on May 15, 2017, 10:41:42 PM
I care more about if the final table streams are going to be the same? With Tuchman and Nick Shulman?

Ones with Nick S, and Brian Rast are by far the best of all.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 16, 2017, 01:07:26 PM
someone called  Barry Carter‏

"why retiring the November Nine was a good thing "

https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/100929/


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: lucky_scrote on May 16, 2017, 03:21:08 PM
Russ Fox a federally licensed tax professional from Las Vegas claims that the RIO will not be issuing ITIM's as they are not permitted to and that their original tweet regarding this would have been before they were informed.

http://www.taxabletalk.com/2017/02/19/casinos-and-itins-update-1/

http://www.taxabletalk.com/2017/03/03/casinos-and-itins-irs-confirms-cease-and-desist-letters-sent-to-several-large-casinos-update-2/


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: cambridgealex on May 16, 2017, 05:02:48 PM
Russ Fox a federally licensed tax professional from Las Vegas claims that the RIO will not be issuing ITIM's as they are not permitted to and that their original tweet regarding this would have been before they were informed.

http://www.taxabletalk.com/2017/02/19/casinos-and-itins-update-1/

http://www.taxabletalk.com/2017/03/03/casinos-and-itins-irs-confirms-cease-and-desist-letters-sent-to-several-large-casinos-update-2/

what does this mean for UK players (already with ITIMs), Dan?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: lucky_scrote on May 16, 2017, 06:56:29 PM
Russ Fox a federally licensed tax professional from Las Vegas claims that the RIO will not be issuing ITIM's as they are not permitted to and that their original tweet regarding this would have been before they were informed.

http://www.taxabletalk.com/2017/02/19/casinos-and-itins-update-1/

http://www.taxabletalk.com/2017/03/03/casinos-and-itins-irs-confirms-cease-and-desist-letters-sent-to-several-large-casinos-update-2/

what does this mean for UK players (already with ITIMs), Dan?

If your ITIM is still valid then it means nothing. However, there seems to be no information on what the validity window is.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on May 16, 2017, 07:13:14 PM
I got one in 2010
The Rio applied for another 4? Years later I got a chinny letter from the IRS saying I had one !
Are they not a lifetime number ???


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on May 16, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
I got one in 2006, so hopefully that's still valid :D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 16, 2017, 09:25:58 PM
I got one in 2006, so hopefully that's still valid :D

Optimistic ;)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on May 16, 2017, 09:32:01 PM
Think I read somewhere they last 5 years.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on May 16, 2017, 09:52:36 PM
I got one in 2006, so hopefully that's still valid :D

Optimistic ;)

Almost as optimistic as thinking I'll actually need it ;D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 18, 2017, 09:27:32 AM
Four Big Changes at the 2017 World Series of Poker:

Amazon and Brasilia Switch Roles

Pavilion to Host High Roller Lounge, General Rest Area

Daily Deepstacks — New Home, New Schedule

Player of the Year Changes

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2017/05/four-more-important-changes-2017-wsop-27956.htm


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 30, 2017, 12:17:26 PM
with the WSOP events imminent

could i have a volunteer to update thread until June 22nd please?

not every event but say big UK Cashes, big news or bracelet wins etc?

thanks very much in advance


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 30, 2017, 12:18:34 PM
good sources of info

@wsop
@kevmath

on twitter

poker news, poker central

etc


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 30, 2017, 12:20:53 PM
here is a WSOP 2017 preview from ESPN

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19460968/guide-2017-world-series-poker-wsop?%20ex_cid=InsiderTwitter_%20Lee_WSOPPreview052617

Number of Bracelet Events: 74 (record number, breaking last year's record of 69)

Breakdown of Games (Number of events, percentage): No-limit hold 'em: 39 (53 percent), Omaha: 11 (15 percent), mixed events: 11 (15 percent) Stud/Razz: six (8 percent) 2-7 Draw Lowball: four (5 percent) limit hold 'em: three (4 percent)

Range and breakdown of buy-in amounts: Lowest: $333 (Event 8: WSOP.com Online event) - Largest: $111,111 (Event 6: High Roller for One Drop)

There are 41 events in the $333 to $1,500 range, 15 events in the $2,500 to $5,000 range, 15 events at $10,000 and three events over $25,000.




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 30, 2017, 12:22:03 PM
Today...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBBY0raUQAA-saq.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 30, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
if you are looking at fantasy poker teamsfor ipools and/or APAT and/or others...

these guys are in Day 3 of the SHRBowl at aria and believe in short term form....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBDnbpuVwAAZc59.jpg)

 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 30, 2017, 12:25:03 PM
if you are looking at fantasy poker teamsfor ipools and/or APAT and/or others...

these guys are in Day 3 of the SHRBowl at aria and believe in short term form....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBDnbpuVwAAZc59.jpg)

 

i think that might be an ambition of mine

get into a seat draw for the finalstages of a bracelet/high profile event as "Tight Rich"

loose leon indeed...


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 30, 2017, 06:31:11 PM
I got one in 2006, so hopefully that's still valid :D

Optimistic ;)

Almost as optimistic as thinking I'll actually need it ;D

Haha yeh, one of those ambiguously vague needles :P


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2017, 06:55:03 PM
I got one in 2006, so hopefully that's still valid :D

Optimistic ;)

Almost as optimistic as thinking I'll actually need it ;D

Haha yeh, one of those ambiguously vague needles :P

:D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2017, 07:01:40 PM
with the WSOP events imminent

could i have a volunteer to update thread until June 22nd please?

not every event but say big UK Cashes, big news or bracelet wins etc?

thanks very much in advance

I'll try doing this if you like, but only about for first 2 weeks.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 30, 2017, 08:26:23 PM
with the WSOP events imminent

could i have a volunteer to update thread until June 22nd please?

not every event but say big UK Cashes, big news or bracelet wins etc?

thanks very much in advance

I will have a bash at this too


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 30, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
Thanks guys I will do first few days then happy for you to do what you can while I am offline


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 31, 2017, 08:31:44 AM
this year's bracelet

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBGbec8UAAAryPN.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on May 31, 2017, 04:37:03 PM
Wednesday's schedule features the first two bracelet events. Also, OneDrop HR satellites

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBKegqUUMAEC11u.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 01, 2017, 12:41:35 PM
A total of 51 teams survived Day 1 of Event #2. 102 started

Doug Polk and company bagged the chip lead.

Full Counts: http://bit.ly/2sheleO


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 01, 2017, 12:41:55 PM
The Casino Employees Event will begin Day 2 with 11 remaining.

Chris Gallagher is the current chip leader.

http://bit.ly/2rnyyQ8


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 01, 2017, 12:42:35 PM
tag, you're it...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBNCkAdVwAABz-O.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 01, 2017, 12:43:19 PM
name the three players in team phelps with him...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBMNUhfUwAA-b5c.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 01, 2017, 12:46:37 PM
a couple of teams featuring Brits doing well

4 Stephen Chidwick DEAL, , GB
5 Jack Salter LONDON, , GB
17 Liv Boeree EAST MOLESEY, GB

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15602/EV2-EOD1-COUNTS-BY-CHIPS.pdf


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 01, 2017, 05:10:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBPtlkRVoAALXKR.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 02, 2017, 09:00:50 AM
$10k tag team event latest

13 left

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBShXAAU0AAU--1.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 02, 2017, 09:01:26 AM
Congratulations to Bryan Hollis for winning $565 Casino Employee Event for $68,817 and 1st bracelet of the summer. http://wsop.com/n/70u

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBSM9_0UwAIs6sU.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 02, 2017, 09:03:20 AM
name the three players in team phelps with him...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBMNUhfUwAA-b5c.jpg)

thanks for the many responses.

Brian Rast, Antonio Esfandiari, Jeff Gross


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 02, 2017, 09:04:40 AM
$10k tag team event latest

13 left

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBShXAAU0AAU--1.jpg)

and now 6 teams left

Daniel Negreanu - Eric Wasserson - David Benyamine - Mark Gregorich   

leads

Liv Boeree - Igor Kurganov

the latest at http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?tid=15602&grid=1352


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 02, 2017, 09:06:43 AM
Event #3: $3,000 No-Limit Hold'em Shootout Day 1 is Done

369 entries

50 advanced to day 2 and the second table

the list of the 50 is on

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?grid=1352&tid=15603

Deadman had a big lead heads up to go through and finished...second.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 02, 2017, 09:53:25 AM
Daniel Negreanu is vlogging throughout the series and has posted his day 1 recap . In my opinion it is really quite good, very slick and well produced and will be an interesting one to keep up with as the series progresses.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAj01-6l2z8



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 02, 2017, 01:29:26 PM
name the three players in team phelps with him...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBMNUhfUwAA-b5c.jpg)

thanks for the many responses.

Brian Rast, Antonio Esfandiari, Jeff Gross

I meant to reply about 5 minutes after you posted, but the phone went and I completely forgot.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 02, 2017, 04:28:10 PM
Busy day at the Rio today as the Colossus and $111,111 OneDrop High Roller get underway.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBU258CVYAIMzWA.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: neeko on June 02, 2017, 10:18:03 PM
In the tag team event can DN just play the whole day or does he have to switch?

Why does he have the team mates he has, he could have chosen anyone, why these 3?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 02, 2017, 10:28:32 PM
In the tag team event can DN just play the whole day or does he have to switch?

Why does he have the team mates he has, he could have chosen anyone, why these 3?

Every player has to play one round of blinds before the end of late reg. After that DN can just play the whole tournament out.

I think he just picked people who he was friends with and would cover when he was off playing football or chilling in his trailer.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: dino1980 on June 02, 2017, 11:21:02 PM
I guess also that none of DNegs trio of teammates will be playing the $111K so probably why he didn't have Juanda - for instance - on his team.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Paul_Foulder on June 02, 2017, 11:49:07 PM
Dnegs picked people in his 25k fantasy draft team -  iirc you get more points for the $10k events if you cash/make FT/win etc
more of his team that cash = more fantasy points

 I assume he was always going to play the majority of the event himself though


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 03, 2017, 12:31:19 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/eE5t2a/Ligor.jpg) (https://ibb.co/guOP8F)


Playing a tag team poker event with your other half wouldn't be much fun would it? Liv played day 1, Igor playing the final in battle of who has the best hair.

4 left. Dnegs has over 40% of the chips in play.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 03, 2017, 08:11:12 AM
kurganovr and Boeree win 1st bracelet in $10K tag team.

Donate 1/2 of their $273,964 to charity.

http://wsop.com/n/713

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBXsvaiU0AIhusT.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 03, 2017, 08:12:28 AM
Mark Peters leads the 93 players advancing to Day 2 from the opening flight of the Colossus III http://bit.ly/2rlOqEc

Official numbers from Day 1B of the Colossus:

Entries: 1,982
Places Paid: 298
Mincash: $832

http://bit.ly/2qQydng



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 03, 2017, 08:13:21 AM
Less than two hours of play left in the 1DropHighRoller tonight. A look at the top 10 in chips.

Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/70r

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBX3qGmVoAAKRbJ.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 03, 2017, 08:14:17 AM
first day at the WSOP,play a bit of poker and then you see your seat draw....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBX1RCHUwAA4Xf9.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 03, 2017, 08:15:25 AM
Olivier Busquet leads the $3,000 Shootout final table Saturday at 12pm - http://bit.ly/2qQGwPZ



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 03, 2017, 08:16:50 AM
Event 4: $1,500 Omaha High-Low

44 of 905 left

updates at http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15604


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: dino1980 on June 03, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Event 4: $1,500 Omaha High-Low

44 of 905 left

updates at http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15604

I note that Jim Collopy is second in chips in this event, I have an interesting/funny story about him. He was heads-up versus Gus Hansen for the $10K HU bracelet at the WSOP Europe in 2010. It was held at The Empire and I'd been dispatched to cover the quarters/semi and final for the magazine I worked for at the time. Collopy was being railed by Stephen Chidwick, Dan Smith and Andrew Lichtenberger, amongst others and the final was a best of three. Gus was limping every button and the match dragged on until at 4am Collopy levelled it at 1-1. Both players wanted to play the Main Event the next day, so agreed to postpone the deciding rubber for 48 hours.

During that time Collopy put in a decent amount of practice online playing deepstack HU with Chidwick his opponent playing in the style of Hansen. Two days later the match restarts and apropos of nothing Hansen starts 2x or 2.5xing the button!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on June 03, 2017, 09:41:17 PM
In the tag team event can DN just play the whole day or does he have to switch?

Why does he have the team mates he has, he could have chosen anyone, why these 3?

I would have declined the opportunity.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Woodsey on June 03, 2017, 09:47:56 PM
In the tag team event can DN just play the whole day or does he have to switch?

Why does he have the team mates he has, he could have chosen anyone, why these 3?

I would have declined the opportunity.

Not a chance in hell he would have asked   ;danafish;


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on June 03, 2017, 09:48:28 PM
Event 4: $1,500 Omaha High-Low

44 of 905 left

updates at http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15604

I note that Jim Collopy is second in chips in this event, I have an interesting/funny story about him. He was heads-up versus Gus Hansen for the $10K HU bracelet at the WSOP Europe in 2010. It was held at The Empire and I'd been dispatched to cover the quarters/semi and final for the magazine I worked for at the time. Collopy was being railed by Stephen Chidwick, Dan Smith and Andrew Lichtenberger, amongst others and the final was a best of three. Gus was limping every button and the match dragged on until at 4am Collopy levelled it at 1-1. Both players wanted to play the Main Event the next day, so agreed to postpone the deciding rubber for 48 hours.

During that time Collopy put in a decent amount of practice online playing deepstack HU with Chidwick his opponent playing in the style of Hansen. Two days later the match restarts and apropos of nothing Hansen starts 2x or 2.5xing the button!

Isn't that fairly standard?   Or is he 2xing the button raises.  I have genuinely no idea what is the difference between this and Hansen's normal play.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: MintTrav on June 03, 2017, 09:50:43 PM
The team event is a farce. One player played virtually the entire tournament for each of the top three teams, in fact for most of the finalists. Rule-change needed.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: dino1980 on June 04, 2017, 01:48:45 AM
Event 4: $1,500 Omaha High-Low

44 of 905 left

updates at http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15604

I note that Jim Collopy is second in chips in this event, I have an interesting/funny story about him. He was heads-up versus Gus Hansen for the $10K HU bracelet at the WSOP Europe in 2010. It was held at The Empire and I'd been dispatched to cover the quarters/semi and final for the magazine I worked for at the time. Collopy was being railed by Stephen Chidwick, Dan Smith and Andrew Lichtenberger, amongst others and the final was a best of three. Gus was limping every button and the match dragged on until at 4am Collopy levelled it at 1-1. Both players wanted to play the Main Event the next day, so agreed to postpone the deciding rubber for 48 hours.

During that time Collopy put in a decent amount of practice online playing deepstack HU with Chidwick his opponent playing in the style of Hansen. Two days later the match restarts and apropos of nothing Hansen starts 2x or 2.5xing the button!

Isn't that fairly standard?   Or is he 2xing the button raises.  I have genuinely no idea what is the difference between this and Hansen's normal play.

I probably didn't explain it very well, sorry. What I was trying to get across is that in matches one and two Hansen limped every button. Collopy then puts in a lot of practice about how to play against this style. Hansen doesn't know this, but out of nowhere in match three Hansen abandons the limping strategy that Collopy has tried to study.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: pleno1 on June 04, 2017, 03:59:13 AM
In the tag team event can DN just play the whole day or does he have to switch?

Why does he have the team mates he has, he could have chosen anyone, why these 3?

I would have declined the opportunity.

They are all in his fantasy team and they wouldn't have played otherwise. This way whatever points he gets he getsx4 which is sick! He will likely win the leaderboard because of this.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 04, 2017, 06:44:17 AM
Aha, clever :-D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2017, 09:15:59 AM
Upeshka De Silva wins second career gold bracelet in $3,000 shootout. http://wsop.com/n/714

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBcoVPmV0AAVGqT.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2017, 09:17:21 AM
Official prize pool for Day 1C of Colossus III: Entries: 3,102 Places paid: 466 Mincash: $832

Official numbers for Flight D of the Colossus: Entries: 2,324 Places Paid: 349 Mincash: 833

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15605/flight-c-prize-pool.pdf


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2017, 09:20:06 AM
Dario Sammartino assumes the chip lead in the 1DropHighRoller with 39 players remaining. Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/70r

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBcvHVUUAAAAG1u.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2017, 09:20:45 AM
Jared Hemingway leads the final 7 players in the $1,500 Omaha High-Low

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBcx1KMUQAEmRrG.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on June 04, 2017, 10:20:42 AM
Event 4: $1,500 Omaha High-Low

44 of 905 left

updates at http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15604

I note that Jim Collopy is second in chips in this event, I have an interesting/funny story about him. He was heads-up versus Gus Hansen for the $10K HU bracelet at the WSOP Europe in 2010. It was held at The Empire and I'd been dispatched to cover the quarters/semi and final for the magazine I worked for at the time. Collopy was being railed by Stephen Chidwick, Dan Smith and Andrew Lichtenberger, amongst others and the final was a best of three. Gus was limping every button and the match dragged on until at 4am Collopy levelled it at 1-1. Both players wanted to play the Main Event the next day, so agreed to postpone the deciding rubber for 48 hours.

During that time Collopy put in a decent amount of practice online playing deepstack HU with Chidwick his opponent playing in the style of Hansen. Two days later the match restarts and apropos of nothing Hansen starts 2x or 2.5xing the button!

Isn't that fairly standard?   Or is he 2xing the button raises.  I have genuinely no idea what is the difference between this and Hansen's normal play.

I probably didn't explain it very well, sorry. What I was trying to get across is that in matches one and two Hansen limped every button. Collopy then puts in a lot of practice about how to play against this style. Hansen doesn't know this, but out of nowhere in match three Hansen abandons the limping strategy that Collopy has tried to study.

Ah, now that makes sense.  Thanks.  Hansen probably way better than people give him credit for.   Just played too high.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2017, 11:25:59 AM
Joseph 'ul_gg' Mithcell wins 'Little Grind' online bracelet for $122,313. The 1st of 3 online bracelets this summer. http://www.wsop.com/n/715


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2017, 11:52:41 AM
Benjamin Zamani captures $1,500 Omaha Hi-Lo 8 or Better bracelet, winning $238,620. http://wsop.com/n/716

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBeLj03UwAESVrq.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2017, 11:53:53 AM
ElkY "Bagged 7million chips and chip lead going into day3 of the @wsop ❤ 111,111$ #OneDrop💧"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBd5VQ6UAAAK5VP.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2017, 12:59:42 PM
Take a look at the Colossus Counts spanning from Flight A thru Flight D. http://bit.ly/2qPzYG8

348 so far.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 05, 2017, 08:08:03 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBdR5gSUAAAAaGv.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 05, 2017, 08:17:20 AM
colossus by flight

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBiCX3mVYAAq3m9.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 05, 2017, 08:17:53 AM
Defending champion in the $10,000 Omaha High-Low Championship Benny Glaser is the current leader in early action http://www.wsop.com/n/70w

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBh-Vr6UQAAugAf.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 05, 2017, 08:18:33 AM
The 1DropHighRoller final table, resuming Monday at 2pm local. Final table stream @PokerGO at 2:30

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBhpbGKUMAEshg_.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 06, 2017, 08:13:47 AM
Day 3 of the Colossus is down to 79 players with Gavin O'Rourke leading the way. Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/70q

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBncN8xVoAAxVJV.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 06, 2017, 08:14:05 AM
The $10,000 Omaha Championship is in the money. Mosseri leads Negreanu, Matusow, ODB, Bjorin, Soulier, & Shak

http://www.wsop.com/n/70w


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 06, 2017, 08:14:35 AM
Doug Polk wins $111,111 One Drop High Roller for over $3.6 million and 3rd bracelet.

http://www.wsop.com/n/71a


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 06, 2017, 08:15:08 AM
Official numbers in the $1,000 Tag Team:

Teams: 843
Teams Paid: 127
Mincash: $1,499
1st: $150,637

http://www.wsop.com/m/payouts/?grid=1352&tid=15610&dayof=5539


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 06, 2017, 08:15:27 AM
Jesse Martin collects career WSOP bracelet #2 in $2,500 mixed triple-draw lowball event. http://wsop.com/n/71d


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on June 06, 2017, 09:06:03 AM
Doug Polk wins $111,111 One Drop High Roller for over $3.6 million and 3rd bracelet.

http://www.wsop.com/n/71a

Good on him.  Deserves some run good after producing so much interesting content for free.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 06, 2017, 09:49:22 AM
Event #10: $1,000 Tag Team No-Limit Hold'em saw 94 groups survive Day 1. Full counts here: http://bit.ly/2rOILaE


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 06, 2017, 12:39:18 PM
The Colossus is down to it's last 41 competitors. Check out who is still alive going into Day 3: http://bit.ly/2rPUhTT


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: dwayne110 on June 06, 2017, 07:45:18 PM
I second Doobs remarks on Polk - he's clearly a bit spoilt and up his own arse, but if you can see beyond that he's very entertaining and clearly intelligent. I think Pads said something recently along the lines he'd been surpassed and wouldn't be in the top 1000 or something players online. I just find that difficult to reconcile/agree with, given his continued success live and online.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 06, 2017, 08:08:28 PM
(https://preview.ibb.co/bKm0YF/06_06.jpg) (https://ibb.co/e8WCfv)

Lots going on today, the real highlight being the final of the $10k O8. Chip counts - http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15609/EV9-EOD2-COUNTS-BY-CHIPS.pdf

Lots of big names still left in including David "ODB" Baker, Daniel Negreanu, Jon Monnette, Dan Shak, Max Pescatori and Mike Matusow. We also have a Brit, Philip Long, sat 7/17.

Has anyone signed up to PokerGo? They are showing coverage of the big finals. Interested in general views of the production quality. We have been spoilt with free coverage in previous years, those days look gone unfortunately.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 06, 2017, 08:13:57 PM
Also still going strong in the $1k tag team event, in the money with with 94 runners remaining, the popular team of...

Howard Lederer
Chris Ferguson
Andy Bloch


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 06, 2017, 08:35:57 PM
I'll let you do the WSOP updates, as I don't even know how to clip all the pics like Tighty and you do :D

I've signed up to PokerGO, and have been impressed with it so far.

The SHR Bowl had Schulman for the durating, which is obviously a massive win, and the WSOP has been good so far, too.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 07, 2017, 03:34:36 AM
I second Doobs remarks on Polk - he's clearly a bit spoilt and up his own arse, but if you can see beyond that he's very entertaining and clearly intelligent. I think Pads said something recently along the lines he'd been surpassed and wouldn't be in the top 1000 or something players online. I just find that difficult to reconcile/agree with, given his continued success live and online.

He gives Pads a shoutout at the end of his vlog :D

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwI0Ucc6lJU

Bantering starts about 13m :D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 07, 2017, 02:26:01 PM
Daniel Negreanu and Abe Mosseri are heads up in Event #9 $10K O8. Mosseri has a 2:1 chip lead.

They played 3 handed for 5 hours, hence the extra day being required. Daniel Negreanu is chasing his 7th bracelet and has made a very strong start to the series following on from his 3rd in the tag team event last week. If Mosseri wins then this will be his 2nd bracelet. Philip Long from the UK finished in 12th.

(https://preview.ibb.co/mYf6av/Abe.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g1tg8F)







Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 07, 2017, 02:37:16 PM
The Colossus and The £1K tag team events have both reached final tables and will play to a finish tomorrow.

The $1500 Dealers Choice has also reached a final table. David Bach leads the way chasing his second bracelet. Brandon Cantu sits 7/9.

They are just shy of the money in Event #12 $1500 NLH. 275 remain. Ben Heath (a Brit) has the chiplead. http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15612/EV12-EOD1-COUNTS-BY-CHIPS.pdf

There are 50 players left in Event #13 $1500 No Limit 2-7 Lowball Draw. 40 get paid. http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15613
Benny Glazer, Stepen Chidwick and Stu Rutter are all still in. Glglgglgl


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: brookie on June 07, 2017, 03:30:46 PM
is there any where u can watch replays off the finals tables thanks


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on June 07, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
I second Doobs remarks on Polk - he's clearly a bit spoilt and up his own arse, but if you can see beyond that he's very entertaining and clearly intelligent. I think Pads said something recently along the lines he'd been surpassed and wouldn't be in the top 1000 or something players online. I just find that difficult to reconcile/agree with, given his continued success live and online.

He gives Pads a shoutout at the end of his vlog :D

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwI0Ucc6lJU

Bantering starts about 13m :D

Probably up to 999th by now.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 07, 2017, 05:37:48 PM
is there any where u can watch replays off the finals tables thanks

There are a selection of final table replays (not all) available on PokerGo. This is a paid service, nothing for free this year.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 07, 2017, 05:45:09 PM
Busy day today.

(https://preview.ibb.co/hL7cXa/07_07.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eOdUdF)

On top of the three final tables playing to a finish, we have the $1500 and 2-7 Day 2's plus the $1500 HORSE and the $10K heads up kicking off.

The heads up should throw up some interesting match ups.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 08, 2017, 10:45:01 AM
A huge good luck to Blonde's own Stuart Rutter who comes back tomorrow sitting 5/6 in Event #13 $1500 2-7 Lowball Draw. Benny Glazer finished 7th. Stuart is guaranteed $12.8k, $89K for first and the shiny bracelet. He will be looking to improve on his best result at the WSOP, a 3rd in the $5k shootout back in 2010 for nearly $180k.

GLGLGLGLGL


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 08, 2017, 10:52:22 AM
Elsewhere, David Bach won his second bracelet in the $1500 Dealers Choice.

Abe Mosseri also claims his second bracelet beating Daniel Negreanu heads up to win the $10K O8.

Nipun Java and Aditya Sushant won the $1K tag team event and became the first Indian born poker players to become bracelet winners.

(https://preview.ibb.co/d78bQv/Indian_Bracelet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mq5O5v)



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 08, 2017, 11:06:45 AM
Day 1 of the $1500 HORSE has come to a close. 167 left, 111 paid. Chip counts here - http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15614/EV14-EOD1-COUNTS-BY-CHIPS.pdf

Richard Ashby, Pete Linton, and Ben Dobson all still have chips.

Day 2 of the $1500 NLH has also finished taking 23 into the final day. Graham Ladd (Brit) sits 11/23.

The $10K heads up has reached the round of 32 after drawing 154 entries. Charlie Carrel and Jason McConnon are both through and will play each other tomorrow. Lots of big names in this event:-
Kornuth has beaten Ferguson (Hooray!) Russell Thomas and Cary Catz have just closed out the day - both winning and will also play each other tomorrow.

(https://image.ibb.co/jYnQJF/Bracket.jpg) (https://ibb.co/etH35v)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: titaniumbean on June 09, 2017, 12:18:52 PM
Gooooo India!!!!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 11, 2017, 03:37:01 PM
Event #16 $1500 6-Max won by Anthony Marquez for $393,273

(http://media.cardplayer.com/assets/000/021/294/Marquez.jpg)




Event #17 $10k Dealers Choice 6-Handed Championship won by John Racener for $273,962

(https://pnimg.net/w/lr-attachments/0/593/d079defedc.jpg)


(Thanks to Cardplayer & Pokernews for pics)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 11, 2017, 03:41:46 PM
Event #18 - $565 PLO has 10 players remaining at the end of day 2.

US player Jessie Bryant tops the chip counts with 3.245m chips, with blinds at 30/60k, and a top prize of $224,344.




Event #19 - 'The Giant' $365 NLHE has 124/1629 remaining at the end of day 1a.

Jeffrey Brin is the day 1a chip leader with 718k, but no Brits listed in the counts.




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 11, 2017, 04:30:05 PM
Event #20 $1500 Millionaire Maker

Boris Kolev ends day 1a as chipleader, with 290700 chips @ 500/1k blinds.

535 of the 3439 runners making day 2.


Brits

Graeme Hibbert - 98100
Thomas Hall - 75900
Pavlo Veksler - 57400
Chun Yam - 49100
Christian Christner - 48600
Dan Carter - 48200
Simon Deadman - 36200
Adrien Delmas - 30200
Chris Moorman - 28100
Scott Margarson - 23200
Andrew Teng - 23000
Oliver Simpson - 21500
Martynas Vitkauskas - 9600


Others

Martin Jacobson - 35500
Marvin Rettenmaier - 26400
Vojtech Ruzicka - 24500


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 11, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
Event #21 - $1500 8-Game Mix 6-Handed

Christophere Vitch is leading the pack after day 1, with 98700 chips, and 104 of the 472 entries remaining.

Winners takes home $145,577 for his trouble.

Sam Grafton has 49800 chips, and is the only British player listed in the counts.

Keith's favourite superstar is still in there with 57300.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on June 11, 2017, 06:47:58 PM
Event #21 - $1500 8-Game Mix 6-Handed

Christophere Vitch is leading the pack after day 1, with 98700 chips, and 104 of the 472 entries remaining.

Winners takes home $145,577 for his trouble.

Sam Grafton has 49800 chips, and is the only British player listed in the counts.

Keith's favourite superstar is still in there with 57300.





Has to be worth a photo. Just for Keith, obv.




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 12, 2017, 08:03:34 PM
Event #18 - $565 PLO won by LV resident Tyler Smith for $224,344

(https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIF.QXiVoaqQrtK4fcb81P2X0w&pid=15.1&P=0&w=257&h=173)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 12, 2017, 08:08:21 PM
Event #21 $1500 8-Game Mix 6-Handed

10 players remaining, with Gregory Jamison of the USA leading the pack on 714500 chips.



Event #22 $10k No-Limit  2-7 Lowball Draw Championship

92 players started, and 30 remain at the end of Day 1.

Jon Turner is the overnight leader with 367300.

Usman Siddique is the only British player remaining with 96700 chips.




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 13, 2017, 05:46:33 PM
Event #20 $1500 Millionaire Maker NLHE

There are 136/7761 remaining at the end of Day 2, and all in the hunt for a first prize of $1,221,407.

Senovio Ramirez III is the chip leader with 1,570,000 chips, and the players are returning to 6k/12k with a 2k ante.

Marc MacDonnell 873,000
Scott Margereson 144,000

Are the only UK & Ireland players remaining.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 13, 2017, 05:50:22 PM
Event #22 $1500 8-Game Mix 6-Handed

Ron Ware takes home $145, 577 after finishing 3rd in the same tournament in 2016.

(http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15621-winner-photo.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 13, 2017, 05:55:45 PM
Event #22 $10k NL 2-7 Lowball Draw Championship

John Monnette returning as big chipleader at the stacked final table of 8 players shooting for the $256,610 top prize.

Below are chipcounts for the final -

John Monnette 1,051,000
Darren Elias 637,500
Mike Leah 618,500
Mike Gorodinsky 591,000
Xavier Kyablue 484,500
Per Hildebrand 474,500
James Chen 428,000
Paul Volpe 315,000



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 13, 2017, 06:14:50 PM
Event #23 $2620 'Marathon' NLHE

1646 Entries started Day 1, with 806 making the 2nd day. Registration remains open until the start of Day 2, so final numbers aren't known at present.

(Players will return to 400/800 with a 100 ante, playing 100minute levels)


Day 1 chipleader was Igor Yaroshevskyy with 292,600.

UK & Ireland players

Darren Judges 157,700
Roberto Romanello 125,000
Niall Farrell 123,500
Pratik Ghatge 117,600
Kenneth Broad 112,300
Sadan Turker 79,200
Romain Lewis 73,900
Brandon Sheils 72,700
Mark Reilly 70,200
Markus Kuhnen 63,700
Peter Murphy 61,700
Dara O'Kearney 52,400
Mark Longhurst 51,400
Michael Graydon 47,200
Usman Siddique 47,000
Damien Le Goff 46,500
Christian Christner 44,500
Robert Nash 44,000
Charlie Carrel 43,700
Ben Dobson 43,300
James Rann 41,300
Innes Young 39,700
James Millman 37,000
Pavlo Veksler 36,100
Graeme Ladd 34,700
Stephen Chidwick 34,400
Jeff Kimber 32,700
Adrien Delmas 32,200
Thomas Hall 31,900
Sam Grafton 30,300
Henry Fewster 30,100
Rory Brown 29,500
Harry Lodge 28,300
Martynas Vitkauskas 26,300
Simon Deadman 19,000
James Simms 16,500
Pablo Fernandez Campo 16,200
Tim Mitchell 8,400
Michael Kane (1?)



Apologies if I've missed anyone out.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on June 13, 2017, 07:53:48 PM
On the (really very good) WSOP Thread Next Door, I saw mention today of Kenny Broad.

Yikes, there's a name & a few memories.

I could tell so many Kenny Broad tales, but, keeping my nose clean, I'd stick to the one where Bob the Butcher tried to kiss Kenny. (It was Bob's habit to kiss everyone).

Kenny was "not keen" on Bob kissing him, & the ensuing scene was hilarious.  



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on June 14, 2017, 12:34:58 AM
On the (really very good) WSOP Thread Next Door, I saw mention today of Kenny Broad.

Yikes, there's a name & a few memories.

I could tell so many Kenny Broad tales, but, keeping my nose clean, I'd stick to the one where Bob the Butcher tried to kiss Kenny. (It was Bob's habit to kiss everyone).

Kenny was "not keen" on Bob kissing him, & the ensuing scene was hilarious.  



What was the name of the really mouthy blonde hair guy from Luton/the Vic. Always used to try angle shots or tried to talk his way into pots.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 14, 2017, 12:57:26 AM
On the (really very good) WSOP Thread Next Door, I saw mention today of Kenny Broad.

Yikes, there's a name & a few memories.

I could tell so many Kenny Broad tales, but, keeping my nose clean, I'd stick to the one where Bob the Butcher tried to kiss Kenny. (It was Bob's habit to kiss everyone).

Kenny was "not keen" on Bob kissing him, & the ensuing scene was hilarious.  



What was the name of the really mouthy blonde hair guy from Luton/the Vic. Always used to try angle shots or tried to talk his way into pots.

Derail incoming.

I somehow came across one of your 'xmas presents' articles on THM, and linked it in your old diary.

Was a good trip down memory lane :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: BigAdz on June 14, 2017, 06:54:10 AM
Event #18 - $565 PLO won by LV resident Tyler Smith for $224,344

(https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIF.QXiVoaqQrtK4fcb81P2X0w&pid=15.1&P=0&w=257&h=173)


So thats what happened to The Couch!!!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: atdc21 on June 14, 2017, 09:06:09 AM
On the (really very good) WSOP Thread Next Door, I saw mention today of Kenny Broad.

Yikes, there's a name & a few memories.

I could tell so many Kenny Broad tales, but, keeping my nose clean, I'd stick to the one where Bob the Butcher tried to kiss Kenny. (It was Bob's habit to kiss everyone).

Kenny was "not keen" on Bob kissing him, & the ensuing scene was hilarious.  


Ha .....yeah must be loads of unprintable stories  :D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 14, 2017, 09:10:14 PM
Event #22 $10,000 No-Limit 2-7 Lowball Draw Championship

John Monnette wins his 3rd bracelet and $256,610, against a very tough final.

(http://media.cardplayer.com/assets/000/021/305/15622-winner-photo.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 14, 2017, 09:13:01 PM
Event #20 $1500 NLHE Millionaire Maker

11 Players still in with a shout of the $1,221,407 first prize.

Pablo Mariz of Canada is the overwhelming chip leader, with 14.8m, which is over 7m clear of the player in 2nd place.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 14, 2017, 09:15:25 PM
Event #24 $1500 Limit Holdem

15 players remain, from the 616 starters, and they're shooting for the top prize of $177,985.

Marion Nguyen is the chipleader with 574,000 chips.

Barry Greenstein still there 8/11 with 316,000.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 14, 2017, 09:19:37 PM
Event #25 $1,000 Pot-Limit Omaha

1058 players entered, and 89 are returning for day 2.

Jia Mai just topping the counts on 168,000 chips, and Michael Mizrachi close behind with 165,000.


UK & Ireland

Toby Joyce 115,000
Fraser McIntyre 111,000
Darren Taylor 96,400
Daniel Spencer 68,000
Christopher Flint 40,100
Daniel Tang 14,000



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 14, 2017, 09:24:57 PM
Event #26 $10,000 Razz Championship

97 players entered, and 38 returning with a shot at the $265,138 first prize.

Former WSOP POTY Frank Kassela is chip leader with 364,500 chips, and plenty of superstars in behind.

Stephen Chidwick is the only UK player left in the field with 98,000.

Down in Tikayland, is the irish legend Donnacha O' Dea with 60,000 chips.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 14, 2017, 09:28:10 PM
Sorry these are so bland... Unfortunately I don't have Tighty's tech, or wit with the written word.

He'll be back soon, and normal service resumed, thankfully :D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: I KNOW IT on June 14, 2017, 10:42:20 PM
Thank you very much guys , especially Marky , for doing these updates.

Trust me they are very much appreciated by a lot of people .

Especially as it is hard for me to access the official updating sites.

Have a great time and rest when you finally get out to Vegas :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: booder on June 14, 2017, 11:32:17 PM
Thank you very much guys , especially Marky , for doing these updates.

Trust me they are very much appreciated by a lot of people .

Especially as it is hard for me to access the official updating sites.  i'm lazy

Have a great time and rest when you finally get out to Vegas :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2017, 01:17:18 AM
Haha, cheers lads ;D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bagel on June 15, 2017, 01:29:37 AM
Haha, cheers lads ;D

updates are great

how about a marky147 trip report when you get out there?

have a slight hunch that it would make interesting reading...


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2017, 01:41:53 AM
Haha, cheers lads ;D

updates are great

how about a marky147 trip report when you get out there?

have a slight hunch that it would make interesting reading...

Did one a few years ago, and I might well give it another spin.

I'm shit with photos, so will have to get one of the tech experts like Tikay to show me the ropes :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: I KNOW IT on June 15, 2017, 02:28:02 PM
Thank you very much guys , especially Marky , for doing these updates.

Trust me they are very much appreciated by a lot of people .

Especially as it is hard for me to access the official updating sites.  i'm lazy

Have a great time and rest when you finally get out to Vegas :)
Haha. It's actually the great firewall of China mate


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Karabiner on June 16, 2017, 11:49:37 AM
Here's a decent summary of today's and tomorrow's action:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2017/06/wsop-day-17-hawkins-jaka-race-to-the-finish-of-the-marathon-28234.htm?utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=homefeed&utm_source=rss


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: KarmaDope on June 21, 2017, 10:34:17 AM
Quite possibly the best story to come out of the WSOP this year - James Moore wins the Super Seniors event, just like he did at the 2016 World Series of Poker!

http://wsop.com/n/733


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on June 22, 2017, 08:52:22 AM
Quite possibly the best story to come out of the WSOP this year - James Moore wins the Super Seniors event, just like he did at the 2016 World Series of Poker!

http://wsop.com/n/733

That's boss.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 22, 2017, 05:23:54 PM
There are 16 players left in the $1,500 Stud Hi-Lo Event. Here is a look at chip stacks going into Day 3: http://bit.ly/2st2psw


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 22, 2017, 05:24:20 PM
There are 129 players still alive in the Six-Handed No-Limit Hold'em Championship. See who remains: http://bit.ly/2stomHM


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 22, 2017, 05:24:40 PM
Event #41: $1,500 Pot-Limit Omaha finished Day 1 with 138 remaining. They have bagged their stacks: http://bit.ly/2rFcv6H  and await Day 2.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 22, 2017, 05:25:15 PM
2015 WSOP Main Event winner Joe McKeehen recaptures gold-bracelet form in $10,000 Limit Hold'em Championship. http://wsop.com/n/737

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC6ESLnVoAEWsbI.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: booder on June 22, 2017, 06:21:59 PM
Good to see you back Rich , Marky was rubbish.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Karabiner on June 22, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
Best of luck to Steve Jelinek - one of the good guys in my experience.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on June 22, 2017, 09:54:24 PM
Good to see you back Rich , Marky was rubbish.

I resemble that remark ;D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 23, 2017, 11:18:52 AM
Event #44: $3,000 H.O.R.S.E. ended Day 1 with 156 survivors. Chip counts and seat assignments for Day 2: http://bit.ly/2t2wznC


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 23, 2017, 11:19:11 AM
Loren Klein leads final 18 players in Event $41: $1,500 PLO. Here's how the chips are currently dispersed: http://bit.ly/2sHUzd3


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 23, 2017, 11:19:51 AM
$10,000 NL 6-Max, Charlie Carrel still leads a tough field. Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/72w


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 23, 2017, 11:21:05 AM
Payouts in Event 43: $1,500 NL Shootout

Players: 1,025
Places Paid: 120
Win today's table: $4,837
1st: $257,764

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/payouts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15643

Alex Goulder and Chris Moorman amongst those who won their first table


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 23, 2017, 11:21:30 AM
A look behind the numbers at the halfway point mark of the WSOP http://wsop.com/n/735


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bagel on June 23, 2017, 07:03:02 PM
am sure that there is a simple explanation, thanks to whoever takes time to explain.

in the shootout tournament, why is it that before start of play , any given table of 9 have different chipstacks?

i thought the concept is basically 3 9 man sit and goes, with just the winner going through to next round.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on June 23, 2017, 07:34:34 PM
Dead stacks which are removed when people don't show up. And some tables don't have 9.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 24, 2017, 09:09:15 AM
The $1,500 Shootout is down to 12 players. Two tables of six will face off tomorrow. http://bit.ly/2tZEwql



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 24, 2017, 09:10:05 AM
Loren Klein Wins 2nd Bracelet in $1,500 PLO for $231,483 http://wsop.com/n/73b


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 24, 2017, 09:10:22 AM
Dmitry Yurasov wins $10,000 Six-Max No-Limit Hold'em Championship for $775,923. http://wsop.com/n/73c


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 24, 2017, 09:11:39 AM
There will be 49 players who see the light of Day 2 in Event #45: $5,000 NLHE (30 Minute Levels). http://bit.ly/2sB0MsQ

Two Brits in the top 10, Conor Beresford and Chris Brammer


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 25, 2017, 10:47:38 AM
well done!

England's Chris Brammer earns first WSOP bracelet, $527,555 in turbo-style Event #45 $5,000 No-Limit Hold'em http://wsop.com/n/73e

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDJOaSUUwAEOGSy.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 25, 2017, 10:49:17 AM
Israeli realtor Ben Maya's first-ever WSOP cash brings a bracelet as well. He wins Event #43, $1,500 NLHE Shootout http://wsop.com/n/73g

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDJZYJKVYAAX3EV.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 25, 2017, 10:49:48 AM
Matthew Schreiber learned games on the fly to win the $3,000 HORSE event and his first bracelet. http://wsop.com/n/73f

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDJi5SwVoAACDoC.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 25, 2017, 10:50:02 AM
Flight A of the Monster Stack will advance over 700 players to Day 2. http://bit.ly/2rPhYIk


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 26, 2017, 09:41:43 AM
Official numbers in the Monster Stack:

Players: 6716
Places paid: 1,008
1st: $1,094,349 2300 remaining combined

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/payouts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15647


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 26, 2017, 09:43:42 AM
The $10,000 Stud High-Low Championship is down to 14 players as hellmuth leads. Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/732

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDOjjr7UQAA2WbI.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 26, 2017, 09:44:54 AM
3 days after making a last longer bet, Nathan Gamble wins the whole tournament. Earns bracelet in the $1,500 PLO8 http://wsop.com/n/73l

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDOq3YNV0AAUd1F.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 27, 2017, 09:47:37 AM
Heads-up on the $10,000 Stud High-Low Championship:

Chris Vitch 4.88m
Benny Glaser 1.375m

Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/732

Benny going for the 3rd UK bracelet of the series so far


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 27, 2017, 09:48:21 AM
Official numbers for Event 50: $1,500 NL ($500 Bounty)

Players: 1,927
Places Paid: 290
1st: $266,646
305 remain

http://www.wsop.com/m/payouts/?grid=1352&tid=15650&dayof=5667


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 27, 2017, 09:48:42 AM
234 Players remain in the Monster Stack. Scott Baumstein leads heading into Day 3.

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15647/EV47-EOD2-COUNTS-BY-CHIPS.pdf


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 27, 2017, 09:49:05 AM
264 players advance to Day 2 in the $1,500 Bounty tourney.

Will Berry tops the leaderboard
http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/reports.asp?grid=1352&tid=15650


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 27, 2017, 09:50:20 AM
$3,000 PLO 6-Max

19 remain with Rberto Romanello still in

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15649


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 27, 2017, 09:51:27 AM
Heads-up on the $10,000 Stud High-Low Championship:

Chris Vitch 4.88m
Benny Glaser 1.375m

Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/732

Benny going for the 3rd UK bracelet of the series so far

and Vitch has just won


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 27, 2017, 12:11:45 PM
The Welsh Wizard‏ @RobRomanello 

Made day 3 of the six max 3k PLO
19 players left
I have 152k
Average is 490k
Blinds 6k/12k
Back tomorrow at 2pm


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: vegaslover on June 27, 2017, 12:55:22 PM
Heads-up on the $10,000 Stud High-Low Championship:

Chris Vitch 4.88m
Benny Glaser 1.375m

Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/732

Benny going for the 3rd UK bracelet of the series so far

Shouldn't that read going for the 4th UK bracelet??


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 27, 2017, 01:05:01 PM
Heads-up on the $10,000 Stud High-Low Championship:

Chris Vitch 4.88m
Benny Glaser 1.375m

Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/732

Benny going for the 3rd UK bracelet of the series so far

Shouldn't that read going for the 4th UK bracelet??


not sure i was away and not keeping up with it, nor was the thread updated too frequently

moorman, brammer,who else?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: vegaslover on June 27, 2017, 01:40:00 PM
Heads-up on the $10,000 Stud High-Low Championship:

Chris Vitch 4.88m
Benny Glaser 1.375m

Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/732

Benny going for the 3rd UK bracelet of the series so far



Shouldn't that read going for the 4th UK bracelet??


not sure i was away and not keeping up with it, nor was the thread updated too frequently

moorman, brammer,who else?

Liv Boeree


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 28, 2017, 10:40:29 AM
Stoyan Obreshkov leads final 20 players going into the Monster Stack finale tomorrow. http://bit.ly/2tnaiRO


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 28, 2017, 10:40:43 AM
Event #52: $1,500 No-Limit Hold'em left off with 246 players at the of Day 1. Current counts: http://bit.ly/2uhePBL


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 28, 2017, 10:41:00 AM
Here is a look at the chip stacks and seating assignments for the final 29 competitors in Event #50. http://bit.ly/2tWwdwe


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 28, 2017, 10:41:18 AM
Miami cash-game pro Luis Calvo makes rare tourney visit, leaves with bracelet and $362,185 in Event #49, PLO 6-Max

http://wsop.com/n/73w


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on June 28, 2017, 11:05:50 AM
Miami cash-game pro Luis Calvo makes rare tourney visit, leaves with bracelet and $362,185 in Event #49, PLO 6-Max

http://wsop.com/n/73w

The turn and river were virtual blanks for Sawa, giving Calvo two pair and the win in a no-low pot.

and Reilly missed his flush, straight and low draws

Always helps if you get someone who knows the rules of the game to write the updates...


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on June 28, 2017, 11:08:29 AM
Event #52: $1,500 No-Limit Hold'em left off with 246 players at the of Day 1. Current counts: http://bit.ly/2uhePBL

I believe Posh Alex is still on this.

Good luck him.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 29, 2017, 09:46:34 AM
Among the final 25 in the $1,500 NL JasonMercier and Nottingham's Jack Allen

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDeH_7xUMAArF1_.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 29, 2017, 09:46:58 AM
The PLO 8-Handed Championship dropped from 428 to 186 players after Day 1 completion. http://bit.ly/2t3lLTP


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 29, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
Event #50: $1,500 NLHE Bounty will need a Day 4 to crown a Champion. Only five players remain in the hunt: http://bit.ly/2t3fG9I


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 29, 2017, 09:47:30 AM
Here is a look at current counts for Event #52: $1,500 No-Limit Hold'em, standing at 23 players remaining. http://bit.ly/2tnhXPK


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2017, 09:39:27 AM
chicagocards1/Mohsin Charania wins Triple Crown after victory in $1,500 NL tourney for $364,438

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDjlBokXoAME-Xm.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2017, 09:40:00 AM
Event #56: $5,000 No-Limit Hold'em saw 248 players survive Day 1 of the tourney. http://bit.ly/2s85mMt


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2017, 09:40:40 AM
The $10,000 PLO 8-Handed Championship moves to Day 3 with Scott Clements holding the outright chip lead. http://bit.ly/2tr8LKt


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2017, 09:41:28 AM
Another UK Bracelet

Max Silver's first WSOP LHE cash also brings first gold bracelet. Silver earns $172,645 with Ev 53 triumph.

http://wsop.com/n/741

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDiquNEVwAEKMFB.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 01, 2017, 10:03:33 AM
Going into Day 3 of Event #56, only 32 players remain. Current chip counts can be found here: http://bit.ly/2s85mMt


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 01, 2017, 10:03:53 AM
Event #58: $1,500 No-Limit Hold'em stops at 269 players, still four bust outs short of the money. http://bit.ly/2twzDIl


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 02, 2017, 09:41:46 AM
Flight A of the Crazy Eights finished with 58 players, led by Seville Hale, returning Monday at 2pm http://bit.ly/2t4AyPO


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 02, 2017, 09:42:09 AM
After 3 PLO final tables in 2016, Tommy Le wins first bracelet in $10,000 Pot-Limit Omaha Championship http://wsop.com/n/747


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 02, 2017, 09:42:34 AM
Smith Sirisakorn wins the $2,500 Omaha Hi-Lo/Seven Card Stud Hi-Lo mixed event for $215,902 http://wsop.com/n/748


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 02, 2017, 09:42:49 AM
Here is a look at the chip counts for all 28 players moving to Day 3 of Event #58: $1,500 No-Limit Hold'em. http://bit.ly/2tDVKxp


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on July 02, 2017, 10:08:52 AM
Flight A of the Crazy Eights finished with 58 players, led by Seville Hale, returning Monday at 2pm http://bit.ly/2t4AyPO

Blonde Poker's own Pvas with a 300k stack for day two there! Gl to him.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 03, 2017, 08:35:48 AM
Early in the $50,000 PPC, Johnny Chan is the chip leader. Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/746

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDyQGKAUMAA5ODH.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 03, 2017, 08:36:16 AM
Danny Alvarez finished Flight C of the Crazy Eights leading the 93 players returning Monday at 2pm

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15660/Flight-C-Counts.pdf


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 03, 2017, 08:37:07 AM
Jens Lakemeier wins first bracelet at just 23 years old in the $2,500 Big Bet Mixed. http://wsop.com/n/74b


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 03, 2017, 08:37:29 AM
Andres Korn claims Argentina's second-ever WSOP gold bracelet, wins Event #56 $5,000 No-Limit Hold'em and $618,285.

http://wsop.com/n/74a


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 03, 2017, 08:59:50 AM
Mario Prats Garcia and Artur Rudziankov will move to a Day 4 to decide the Event #58 Champion. http://bit.ly/2sDsyl2


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 03, 2017, 11:30:31 AM
Poker Players Championship stands at 87 players. However, registration remains open till the start of Day 2. Counts: http://bit.ly/2ugOlRL


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 04, 2017, 10:21:56 AM
182 players remain after Day 1 of Event #63: $1,000 No-Limit Hold'em

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15663/EV63-EOD1-COUNTS-BY-CHIPS.pdf


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 04, 2017, 10:23:38 AM
$50k PPC

end of day 2, Mizrachi leads

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?grid=1352&tid=15662

Chidwick and Ashton still in for the Uk


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 04, 2017, 10:24:20 AM
Artur Rudziankov captures Czech Republic's second-ever WSOP gold bracelet, winning Event #58 for $395,918.

http://wsop.com/n/74c

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD2GsahU0AQDlEF.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 04, 2017, 10:25:35 AM
31 left in the Crazy Eights

Harry Lodge 14th of those remaining

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15660


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 04, 2017, 10:27:28 AM
Event 64:$1,500 NL/PLO

1058 entries 158 remain at the end of day 1

http://www.wsop.com/m/updates/?grid=1352&tid=15664&dayof=5713

Moorman is shown in 6th


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 04, 2017, 10:43:25 AM
$50k PPC

end of day 2, Mizrachi leads

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?grid=1352&tid=15662

Chidwick and Ashton still in for the Uk

A little misread, though suspect the updating was probably bad.  Mizrachi is only 3rd.   He is behind Britain's own Talal Shakerchi and Elior Sion is just behnd Mizrachi. 



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on July 04, 2017, 11:06:16 AM
$50k PPC

end of day 2, Mizrachi leads

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?grid=1352&tid=15662

Chidwick and Ashton still in for the Uk

A little misread, though suspect the updating was probably bad.  Mizrachi is only 3rd.   He is behind Britain's own Talal Shakerchi and Elior Sion is just behnd Mizrachi. 



Ivo Donev has chips! Go Ivo!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 04, 2017, 06:32:05 PM
$50k PPC

end of day 2, Mizrachi leads

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?grid=1352&tid=15662

Chidwick and Ashton still in for the Uk

A little misread, though suspect the updating was probably bad.  Mizrachi is only 3rd.   He is behind Britain's own Talal Shakerchi and Elior Sion is just behnd Mizrachi. 



Ivo Donev has chips! Go Ivo!

Jeez, he's been around a decade or two.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 04, 2017, 06:32:58 PM
Artur Rudziankov captures Czech Republic's second-ever WSOP gold bracelet, winning Event #58 for $395,918.

http://wsop.com/n/74c

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD2GsahU0AQDlEF.jpg)

On the WSOP thread Next Door it was stated that this lad is coached by Sam Grafton.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Micko on July 04, 2017, 08:04:32 PM
Any particular reason why Phil Ivey not playing the series?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 04, 2017, 08:10:45 PM
Any particular reason why Phil Ivey not playing the series?

I'm not sure he cba to play tourneys these days.

He is here, playing cash in Bobby's Room last I saw.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: neeko on July 04, 2017, 08:49:01 PM
Any particular reason why Phil Ivey not playing the series?

I'm not sure he cba to play tourneys these days.

He is here, playing cash in Bobby's Room last I saw.

Galfond said on Twitter that he had lost so much on cash games that only 2nd in the $50k horse would get him even so someone must be doing well.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 04, 2017, 08:56:14 PM
Any Tom Dwan sightings?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 04, 2017, 09:10:30 PM
Any Tom Dwan sightings?

I've not seen him, no. He may be here though.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 05, 2017, 10:41:24 AM
$50,000 PPC. Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/746

16 left and Matthew Ashton is chip leader

Sion and Shakerchi also in for the UK


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 05, 2017, 10:42:14 AM
Event 63: $1,000 NL Holdem. Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/74e

23 left


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 05, 2017, 10:44:58 AM
$888 Crazy Eights, Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/744

Harry Lodge, former UKPC winner,final tabled


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on July 05, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
$888 Crazy Eights, Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/744

Harry Lodge, former UKPC winner,final tabled

Finished 3rd


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 05, 2017, 05:48:57 PM
The WSOP Main Event, starting this Saturday, will be streamed live (30  minute delay) on Poker Go, ESPN & ESPN2 (it's unclear if ESPN includes the UK version).

The full puffy spammy corporate details follow, but the cliffs are as above.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 05, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
WORLD SERIES OF POKER MAIN EVENT TO AIR LIVE DAILY FOR FIRST TIME

ESPN, ESPN2 & POKERGO ON THE SCENE AT RIO IN LAS VEGAS JULY 8-17

FINAL TABLE LIVE ON ESPN/ESPN2 JULY 20-22

July 5, 2017 – For the first time in the 48-year history of the World Series of Poker® there will be live* video coverage of the world’s richest annual poker tournament every day. (*30-minute delay per gaming regulations)
Starting with the opening flight on Saturday, July 8, and continuing daily through the event’s conclusion on Saturday, July 22, ESPN, ESPN2 and PokerGO will provide the most comprehensive video account the event has ever seen, as players vie for a first place prize of around $8 million, while competing for approximately $60 million in prize money.

ESPN/ESPN2 will carry an estimated 40+ hours of live WSOP Main Event coverage this year starting with four hours of opening day action on July 8 as well as providing every-hand coverage of the final table during a three-night primetime finale at 9pm ET July 20, 21 and 22.  A final table preview special will air the night prior to the Main Event final table, on July 19 at 10pm on ESPN2.

PokerGO, the world’s only live poker subscription service, will cover the WSOP Main Event in tandem with ESPN/ESPN2 to provide an anticipated 60 hours of additional coverage.

“This is poker’s Olympics and we are thrilled that ESPN and PokerGO have joined forces to bring viewers around the globe inside access to our game’s most prestigious event, the WSOP Main Event and the spectacle that it is,” said WSOP Executive Director Ty Stewart.  “We can’t wait to get started on July 8 and look forward to sharing this event with a massive audience.”

Norman Chad, Lon McEachern and Kara Scott anchor all the coverage from the Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, and will be joined by a rotating cast of player analysts throughout poker’s longest-structured event.
The planned schedule of WSOP live coverage on ESPN/ESPN2/PokerGO will look as follows (all times ET):

July 8   July 9   July 10   July 11   July 12   July 13   July 14
Day 1A   Day 1B   Day 1C   Day 2A/B   Day 2C   Day 3   Day 4
PokerGO   ESPN2   PokerGO   PokerGO   PokerGO   PokerGO   PokerGO
2pm-4pm   2pm-6pm   2:30pm-9:15pm   2:30pm-7:30pm   3:30pm-8pm   2:30pm-9:15pm   2:30pm-8pm
ESPN2   PokerGO      ESPN   ESPN      ESPN2
4pm-8pm   6pm-9:15pm      7:30pm-11pm   8pm-10pm      8pm-11pm
PokerGO         PokerGO         PokerGO
8pm-9:15pm         11pm-11:30pm         11pm-11:30pm


July 15   July 16   July 17   July 18-19   July 20   July 21   July 22
Day 5   Day 6   Day 7   Off Days   Day 8   Day 9   Day 10
ESPN2   ESPN2   PokerGO      ESPN2   ESPN   ESPN
2pm-4pm   2pm-6pm   2:30pm-7pm   July 19   9pm-TBD   9pm-TBD   9pm-TBD
PokerGO   PokerGO   ESPN2   ESPN2   9 players to 6   6 players to 3   Play to winner
4pm-9:15pm   6pm-3am   7pm-9pm   Final Table         
      PokerGO   Preview Show         
      10:45pm-3am   10pm-11pm         

Additionally, ESPN will air original packaged shows starting in September, bringing the total of hours shown on the network to 130 hours annually—live and taped. The edited shows will take the best live action of the 2017 WSOP Main Event combined with additional unaired footage to tell the full and complete story of how the eventual champion was crowned.

PokerGO, the ultimate source for live poker programming, is the exclusive provider of the 2017 WSOP gold bracelet event final table archives now available for streaming on demand, and will also provide WSOP Main Event live coverage on demand within 24-hours after their initial airing.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on July 05, 2017, 07:19:28 PM
Hope it's on here fingers crossed


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Karabiner on July 05, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
I saw that Jonathan McCann (who might be a blonde) was still in around 18/26 in the $1K turbo.

Good bloke and great player - it would be wonderful to see him hit the jackpot.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 05, 2017, 10:19:02 PM
I saw that Jonathan McCann (who might be a blonde) was still in around 18/26 in the $1K turbo.

Good bloke and great player - it would be wonderful to see him hit the jackpot.

4/11 right now

edit Isn't Yiannis Liperis a Blonde too?  Just gone out 11th


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Karabiner on July 05, 2017, 11:03:05 PM
I saw that Jonathan McCann (who might be a blonde) was still in around 18/26 in the $1K turbo.

Good bloke and great player - it would be wonderful to see him hit the jackpot.

4/11 right now

edit Isn't Yiannis Liperis a Blonde too?  Just gone out 11th

6/7 now with $29K locked.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Karabiner on July 06, 2017, 12:06:02 AM
I saw that Jonathan McCann (who might be a blonde) was still in around 18/26 in the $1K turbo.

Good bloke and great player - it would be wonderful to see him hit the jackpot.

4/11 right now

edit Isn't Yiannis Liperis a Blonde too?  Just gone out 11th

Excellent laddering tekkers having seemingly had the shortstack for the entire FT gained our lad $71K+ for 4th place.

Well played that man!

6/7 now with $29K locked.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 06, 2017, 10:19:08 AM
Shaun Deeb finished 7th in the PPC as play finishes for the night. DN leads the final 6 players when play resumes at 2pm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DECDW6dUAAE0qPx.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 06, 2017, 10:23:24 AM
Rulah Divine stages comeback to win Event 63, $1,000 No-Limit Hold'em, earning $262,501 and first WSOP gold bracelet

http://wsop.com/n/74r


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 06, 2017, 10:24:02 AM
Sebastian Langrock wins first bracelet and $268,555 in the $1,500 NLH/PLO mixed event.

http://wsop.com/n/74q


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 06, 2017, 10:24:21 AM
Coming back with 308 players in Event #66: $1,500 No-Limit Hold'em. Check out the counts ending Day 1:

http://bit.ly/2ts7pwz


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 06, 2017, 10:55:58 AM
There are 103 players who bagged in Event #67: $25,000 PLO. Registration remains open till the start of Day 2

http://bit.ly/2tUf9tZ


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 06, 2017, 02:25:28 PM
value

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD8ycWyV0AElmVs.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: degston77 on July 06, 2017, 04:12:50 PM
Mateos or colman from that list.  Wonder how it compares to pokershares odds


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 06, 2017, 04:28:11 PM
Mateos or colman from that list.  Wonder how it compares to pokershares odds

Colman non runner no bet is rediculously good value with just 24 runners.  Why he is 75 when others are 8 is mind boggling.  Johnny Chan is 8???  Surely in a STT, you'd take Colman if offered the same odds? 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 06, 2017, 04:36:42 PM
Fair enough betting a 24 runner race to about 112% with no rule 4 for any potential non runners.  Incredible scenes.  Shame they not offering the standard 1/4 1,2,3,4,5 ew for a 20 runner hcap!  Given they would bet the nba or nfl outright to probably 200% with 30 runners this is an incredible betting heat for a vegas sportsbook.  Could easily be over broke with a couple of non runners.

Will must be value at 40/1 in that group surely?  Vanessa as well at 30/1.  The price differences are purely for rec wagons who will take under the odds on the jollies surely?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on July 06, 2017, 05:18:21 PM
Wow - Get down to the Orleans if you are in Vegas!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 06, 2017, 06:06:43 PM
Shaun Deeb finished 7th in the PPC as play finishes for the night. DN leads the final 6 players when play resumes at 2pm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DECDW6dUAAE0qPx.jpg)

ABN

Anyone bar Negreanu.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 06, 2017, 06:09:44 PM
Shaun Deeb finished 7th in the PPC as play finishes for the night. DN leads the final 6 players when play resumes at 2pm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DECDW6dUAAE0qPx.jpg)

ABN

Anyone bar Negreanu.

Sion is the scariest player i have ever played live against in my life.  He has a real table presence which really got in my head the only time i played against him at dtd.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2017, 08:41:05 AM
Nearing the money in the $25,000 PLO High Roller, max silver and jamespark going well

Updates at http://bit.ly/2tSTMZn

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEG2qCjWAAEIChT.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2017, 08:41:44 AM
Elior Sion is HU for the $50k PPC

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?grid=1352&tid=15662


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2017, 08:42:37 AM
Event 68: $3,000 NL Holdem field up to 1,273 players. Updates http://www.wsop.com/n/74j


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2017, 08:42:59 AM
$1,500 Razz with 369 players. Updates at http://www.wsop.com/n/74k


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 07, 2017, 08:44:16 AM
26 remain in #66 $1500 NLHE

Seat draw/chip counts etc http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?grid=1352&tid=15666


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 07, 2017, 10:03:15 AM
Elior Sion has won the players championship.

Daniel Negreanu is losing his shizzle on twitter.  Having earlier declared he was going to win the 50k, he goes on to declare he is not going to play the WSOP again if they don't change the player of the year points system.   Guess pointing out how lucky he is to be sponsored to play so much won't go down too well.  Matusow was ranting the other day as well. 

I dare say the new points system isn't great, but neither is the system that overewards 100 player tournaments where old school pros play games barely anyone else plays.   But they should keep the new system simply because it annoys Negreanu and Matusow.

Rapidly turning into Keith here.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bobAlike on July 07, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Nearing the money in the $25,000 PLO High Roller, max silver and jamespark going well

Updates at http://bit.ly/2tSTMZn

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEG2qCjWAAEIChT.jpg)

Good luck to James totally fearless player.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 07, 2017, 06:23:33 PM
Elior Sion has won the players championship.

Daniel Negreanu is losing his shizzle on twitter.  Having earlier declared he was going to win the 50k, he goes on to declare he is not going to play the WSOP again if they don't change the player of the year points system.   Guess pointing out how lucky he is to be sponsored to play so much won't go down too well.  Matusow was ranting the other day as well. 

I dare say the new points system isn't great, but neither is the system that overewards 100 player tournaments where old school pros play games barely anyone else plays.   But they should keep the new system simply because it annoys Negreanu and Matusow.

Rapidly turning into Keith here.

Why would you care about an ego driven award that offers no financial incentive to win right?  He is a big time pro and makes his living playing poker.  Why would you say you are not playing the biggest 60 events in the world ever again just because an award which pays you nothing doesn't suit you (when it actually probably does suit you more than most)?  Suck it up.  I am sounding like Keith now as well.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 07, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
Elior Sion has won the players championship.

Daniel Negreanu is losing his shizzle on twitter.  Having earlier declared he was going to win the 50k, he goes on to declare he is not going to play the WSOP again if they don't change the player of the year points system.   Guess pointing out how lucky he is to be sponsored to play so much won't go down too well.  Matusow was ranting the other day as well. 

I dare say the new points system isn't great, but neither is the system that overewards 100 player tournaments where old school pros play games barely anyone else plays.   But they should keep the new system simply because it annoys Negreanu and Matusow.

Rapidly turning into Keith here.

Why would you care about an ego driven award that offers no financial incentive to win right?  He is a big time pro and makes his living playing poker.  Why would you say you are not playing the biggest 60 events in the world ever again just because an award which pays you nothing doesn't suit you (when it actually probably does suit you more than most)?  Suck it up.  I am sounding like Keith now as well.

No idea, seems madness to me.

I had a look at the bloke who was leading and he has more final tables than Negreanu and the average field size is way bigger.  Negreanu finishes his 100 runner highroller and jumps into a 300 entrant 1500 Razz with one of the smallest prize pools in the WSOP.  Razz is just about the worst game out there for fun too. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 07, 2017, 07:26:00 PM
Elior Sion has won the players championship.

Daniel Negreanu is losing his shizzle on twitter.  Having earlier declared he was going to win the 50k, he goes on to declare he is not going to play the WSOP again if they don't change the player of the year points system.   Guess pointing out how lucky he is to be sponsored to play so much won't go down too well.  Matusow was ranting the other day as well.  

I dare say the new points system isn't great, but neither is the system that overewards 100 player tournaments where old school pros play games barely anyone else plays.   But they should keep the new system simply because it annoys Negreanu and Matusow.

Rapidly turning into Keith here.

Why would you care about an ego driven award that offers no financial incentive to win right?  He is a big time pro and makes his living playing poker.  Why would you say you are not playing the biggest 60 events in the world ever again just because an award which pays you nothing doesn't suit you (when it actually probably does suit you more than most)?  Suck it up.  I am sounding like Keith now as well.

No idea, seems madness to me.

I had a look at the bloke who was leading and he has more final tables than Negreanu and the average field size is way bigger.  Negreanu finishes his 100 runner highroller and jumps into a 300 entrant 1500 Razz with one of the smallest prize pools in the WSOP.  Razz is just about the worst game out there for fun too.  

The geezer is a self-obsessed, petulant, selfish, arrogant wanker.

Whenever he says something should happen "for the good of poker" you can take 1.01 it is actually for the good of Daniel Negreanu.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 07, 2017, 09:04:15 PM
Elior Sion has won the players championship.

Daniel Negreanu is losing his shizzle on twitter.  Having earlier declared he was going to win the 50k, he goes on to declare he is not going to play the WSOP again if they don't change the player of the year points system.   Guess pointing out how lucky he is to be sponsored to play so much won't go down too well.  Matusow was ranting the other day as well.  

I dare say the new points system isn't great, but neither is the system that overewards 100 player tournaments where old school pros play games barely anyone else plays.   But they should keep the new system simply because it annoys Negreanu and Matusow.

Rapidly turning into Keith here.

Why would you care about an ego driven award that offers no financial incentive to win right?  He is a big time pro and makes his living playing poker.  Why would you say you are not playing the biggest 60 events in the world ever again just because an award which pays you nothing doesn't suit you (when it actually probably does suit you more than most)?  Suck it up.  I am sounding like Keith now as well.

No idea, seems madness to me.

I had a look at the bloke who was leading and he has more final tables than Negreanu and the average field size is way bigger.  Negreanu finishes his 100 runner highroller and jumps into a 300 entrant 1500 Razz with one of the smallest prize pools in the WSOP.  Razz is just about the worst game out there for fun too.  

The geezer is a self-obsessed, petulant, selfish, arrogant wanker.

Whenever he says something should happen "for the good of poker" you can take 1.01 it is actually for the good of Daniel Negreanu.

I had no opinion on the issue previously having read your opinion but after this comedy statement i 100% agree with you.   Why does he care?  He is paid more from stars a year than he probably makes playing poker nowadays.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2017, 09:45:51 AM
The Ladies No-Limit Hold'em Championship is down to a field of 85 players. Check out counts going into Day 2: http://bit.ly/2sA0tMC


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2017, 09:46:06 AM
James Calderaro wins nearly $1.3 million and first bracelet in the $25,000 PLO High Roller. http://wsop.com/n/74z


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2017, 09:46:39 AM
Event 66: $1,500 NL Holdem goes to Day 4 with 2 players at noon.

Emile Schiff 9.76m
Chris Klodnicki 4.91m


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2017, 09:47:25 AM
The 2017 WSOP is now the largest ever in terms of entries. Just hit 107,885 entries, with 3 events to go and the main event about to start


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2017, 09:48:36 AM
$10,000 Seven Card Stud Championship

32 remain

Updates at http://www.wsop.com/m/updates/?grid=1352&tid=15672


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 08, 2017, 10:42:07 AM
The Ladies No-Limit Hold'em Championship is down to a field of 85 players. Check out counts going into Day 2: http://bit.ly/2sA0tMC


Two blasts from the past from the old Brighton festivals in there.  Deborah and Sonia.  Good luck to both.  Think the WSOP site has incorrectly put the buy in at 10k rather than 1k right for the women's event?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 08, 2017, 10:44:30 AM
The Ladies No-Limit Hold'em Championship is down to a field of 85 players. Check out counts going into Day 2: http://bit.ly/2sA0tMC


Two blasts from the past from the old Brighton festivals in there.  Deborah and Sonia.  Good luck to both.  Think the WSOP site has incorrectly put the buy in at 10k rather than 1k right for the women's event?

It was $10k for blokes. A few registered


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 08, 2017, 10:47:17 AM
The Ladies No-Limit Hold'em Championship is down to a field of 85 players. Check out counts going into Day 2: http://bit.ly/2sA0tMC


Two blasts from the past from the old Brighton festivals in there.  Deborah and Sonia.  Good luck to both.  Think the WSOP site has incorrectly put the buy in at 10k rather than 1k right for the women's event?

It was $10k for blokes. A few registered

oh of course i forgot about that change to stop men playing.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: redsimon on July 08, 2017, 05:07:56 PM
WORLD SERIES OF POKER MAIN EVENT TO AIR LIVE DAILY FOR FIRST TIME

ESPN, ESPN2 & POKERGO ON THE SCENE AT RIO IN LAS VEGAS JULY 8-17

FINAL TABLE LIVE ON ESPN/ESPN2 JULY 20-22

July 5, 2017 – For the first time in the 48-year history of the World Series of Poker® there will be live* video coverage of the world’s richest annual poker tournament every day. (*30-minute delay per gaming regulations)
Starting with the opening flight on Saturday, July 8, and continuing daily through the event’s conclusion on Saturday, July 22, ESPN, ESPN2 and PokerGO will provide the most comprehensive video account the event has ever seen, as players vie for a first place prize of around $8 million, while competing for approximately $60 million in prize money.

ESPN/ESPN2 will carry an estimated 40+ hours of live WSOP Main Event coverage this year starting with four hours of opening day action on July 8 as well as providing every-hand coverage of the final table during a three-night primetime finale at 9pm ET July 20, 21 and 22.  A final table preview special will air the night prior to the Main Event final table, on July 19 at 10pm on ESPN2.

PokerGO, the world’s only live poker subscription service, will cover the WSOP Main Event in tandem with ESPN/ESPN2 to provide an anticipated 60 hours of additional coverage.

“This is poker’s Olympics and we are thrilled that ESPN and PokerGO have joined forces to bring viewers around the globe inside access to our game’s most prestigious event, the WSOP Main Event and the spectacle that it is,” said WSOP Executive Director Ty Stewart.  “We can’t wait to get started on July 8 and look forward to sharing this event with a massive audience.”

Norman Chad, Lon McEachern and Kara Scott anchor all the coverage from the Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, and will be joined by a rotating cast of player analysts throughout poker’s longest-structured event.
The planned schedule of WSOP live coverage on ESPN/ESPN2/PokerGO will look as follows (all times ET):

July 8   July 9   July 10   July 11   July 12   July 13   July 14
Day 1A   Day 1B   Day 1C   Day 2A/B   Day 2C   Day 3   Day 4
PokerGO   ESPN2   PokerGO   PokerGO   PokerGO   PokerGO   PokerGO
2pm-4pm   2pm-6pm   2:30pm-9:15pm   2:30pm-7:30pm   3:30pm-8pm   2:30pm-9:15pm   2:30pm-8pm
ESPN2   PokerGO      ESPN   ESPN      ESPN2
4pm-8pm   6pm-9:15pm      7:30pm-11pm   8pm-10pm      8pm-11pm
PokerGO         PokerGO         PokerGO
8pm-9:15pm         11pm-11:30pm         11pm-11:30pm


July 15   July 16   July 17   July 18-19   July 20   July 21   July 22
Day 5   Day 6   Day 7   Off Days   Day 8   Day 9   Day 10
ESPN2   ESPN2   PokerGO      ESPN2   ESPN   ESPN
2pm-4pm   2pm-6pm   2:30pm-7pm   July 19   9pm-TBD   9pm-TBD   9pm-TBD
PokerGO   PokerGO   ESPN2   ESPN2   9 players to 6   6 players to 3   Play to winner
4pm-9:15pm   6pm-3am   7pm-9pm   Final Table         
      PokerGO   Preview Show         
      10:45pm-3am   10pm-11pm         

Additionally, ESPN will air original packaged shows starting in September, bringing the total of hours shown on the network to 130 hours annually—live and taped. The edited shows will take the best live action of the 2017 WSOP Main Event combined with additional unaired footage to tell the full and complete story of how the eventual champion was crowned.

PokerGO, the ultimate source for live poker programming, is the exclusive provider of the 2017 WSOP gold bracelet event final table archives now available for streaming on demand, and will also provide WSOP Main Event live coverage on demand within 24-hours after their initial airing.



BT Sports 2 according to my Tivo Planner


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: redsimon on July 08, 2017, 05:56:31 PM
...and bt sports 3 tonight 9pm


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 08, 2017, 07:19:21 PM
The Ladies No-Limit Hold'em Championship is down to a field of 85 players. Check out counts going into Day 2: http://bit.ly/2sA0tMC


Two blasts from the past from the old Brighton festivals in there.  Deborah and Sonia.  Good luck to both.  Think the WSOP site has incorrectly put the buy in at 10k rather than 1k right for the women's event?

It was $10k for blokes. A few registered

oh of course i forgot about that change to stop men playing.

Are trans women allowed to play?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 07:25:18 PM

Phil Laak, seen here playing today, may look daft, but he's actually a shrewd judge of character.

He described Mr Channing as "my favourite curmudgeon".

Harsh.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 07:47:49 PM

Barny off to a flyer - 70,000 after 20 minutes.




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 07:48:37 PM

"Paper millionaire".




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 08:16:18 PM

Mr A.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 08:16:57 PM

Mr W



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 08:17:25 PM

Motormouth



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 08:18:13 PM

Do we think Tim's chip stack might be a bit of a tell?



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 08:33:26 PM

Looks like Camel is here.




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 08, 2017, 09:25:59 PM

Motormouth



He is going to think you are stalking him.  Has he got you to sign up yet?   


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 09:28:51 PM

Motormouth



He is going to think you are stalking him.  Has he got you to sign up yet?   

He was freely distributing his Business Cards at the table today. I'm surprised they allow that tbh.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 09:35:53 PM

Current chip leader looks to be Barny Boatman with 212,000.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 10:11:38 PM

Current chip leader looks to be Barny Boatman with 212,000.

His current stack looks more like 150,000-160,000.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2017, 10:12:49 PM

Sam Grafton going along nicely.

 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 09, 2017, 05:14:41 AM

As we near the end of Level 4 (so one level remaining today), both Sam Grafton & Barny Boatman, who are on adjacent tables, have around 180,000.

Can't be too many ahead of those two. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 09, 2017, 05:16:18 AM

Mitch Johnson is going along steadily, just a few chins above starting stack.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 09, 2017, 05:16:48 AM

Apologies for the blurry photo (not my fault, obv), anyone recognize this chap, now doing duty for ESPN?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2017, 08:46:49 AM
There were 794 players in flight 1a of the main, up from 754 last year and 737 the year before


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2017, 09:22:05 AM
Chicgo's Jason Gola comes back from the felt to claim gold bracelet and $132,957 in Event #69, $1,500 Razz. http://wsop.com/n/754


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2017, 09:22:23 AM
Qui Nguyen started his title defense on Day 1A of the main event. 576 of 795 players survived the first flight. http://wsop.com/n/753


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2017, 09:24:24 AM
The Ladies Championship unofficial final table with Deborah Worley-Roberts in front http://www.wsop.com/n/74v

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DERQep9UAAAsSyq.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2017, 09:26:42 AM
7 remaining in the $10k stud

including Ferguson, Monette, S Deeb

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?grid=1352&tid=15672


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2017, 09:31:30 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DER672BUMAAkpwU.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 09, 2017, 09:43:27 AM
I am terrible at copying from twitter, so can someone paste that Adam Owen making friends with Phil Hellmuth tweet from the Razz.  Cheers


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 09, 2017, 09:55:48 AM
Making friends with @phil_hellmuth again. Short with 24 left in 1500 Razz, @BennyG444 and @EastCoastRossyy in the mix too

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEL3GCsVYAEBwWs.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEL3Fb-VYAACDKl.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 09, 2017, 10:09:37 AM
Thanks.  Love it. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: redsimon on July 09, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
Making friends with @phil_hellmuth again. Short with 24 left in 1500 Razz, @BennyG444 and @EastCoastRossyy in the mix too

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEL3GCsVYAEBwWs.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEL3Fb-VYAACDKl.jpg)

Its not even a bad play by Adam on 6th Street drawing vs a made Ten low at worst , Hellmuth is such a arsehole.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 09, 2017, 04:27:49 PM
Making friends with @phil_hellmuth again. Short with 24 left in 1500 Razz, @BennyG444 and @EastCoastRossyy in the mix too

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEL3GCsVYAEBwWs.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEL3Fb-VYAACDKl.jpg)

Its not even a bad play by Adam on 6th Street drawing vs a made Ten low at worst , Hellmuth is such a arsehole.

Was wondering how Hellmuth got there starting with a queen amyway. 

Hellmuth did almost apologise later to Adam, but how he avoids penalties is a mystery.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 09, 2017, 08:18:57 PM

Good luck to Flushy today, Day 1b.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: booder on July 09, 2017, 08:28:11 PM
GL Flushy.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on July 09, 2017, 08:58:45 PM

Apologies for the blurry photo (not my fault, obv), anyone recognize this chap, now doing duty for ESPN?

David Tuchman still remember him from the days next door


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 09, 2017, 09:21:16 PM

Apologies for the blurry photo (not my fault, obv), anyone recognize this chap, now doing duty for ESPN?

David Tuchman still remember him from the days next door

Yup, correct.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Karabiner on July 09, 2017, 10:59:41 PM
GL Flushy.

 ;cheerleader;


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on July 10, 2017, 03:10:31 AM

Apologies for the blurry photo (not my fault, obv), anyone recognize this chap, now doing duty for ESPN?

David Tuchman still remember him from the days next door

Yup, correct.

Thought it was a level :D

Good luck Demps!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 08:15:48 AM
Flight 1B of the Main Event finishes registration with 2,164 players. That brings the total to 2,959 after two flights.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 08:16:08 AM
Two remain in the $10,000 Stud Championship: Mike Wattel - 3.03m Chris Ferguson - 1.37m Updates at http://bit.ly/2txNy0F


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
Hobart, Tasmania's Heidi May claims gold and $135,098 in Event #70, $10,000 NLHE Ladies Championship. http://wsop.com/n/757

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEVfxLxUIAEnsGo.jpg:large)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 08:17:51 AM
Dieter Dechant completes his 25-year-old poker dream by winning his first bracelet in The Giant. http://wsop.com/n/758


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 08:19:07 AM
The main event bracelet

Perfect for wandering down your high street one weekend evening...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEUal4xUMAAyEge.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 08:35:12 AM
WSOP and Tencent to hold bracelet and ring events in China after securing long term deal http://ow.ly/T2ez30duAjn


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 08:56:42 AM
she almost folded.....

early day1,feature table

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19875591_1436194073085022_2809856905083102422_n.jpg?oh=815cf4147369f346661e7e7323aadf57&oe=59C95EFD)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 10:03:29 AM
Day 1b report

Gaelle Baumann's early elimination of Vanessa Selbst was the talk of Day 1B while Richard Dubini bagged chip lead http://wsop.com/n/759


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 10:30:53 AM
Mike Wattel ends 18-year bracelet drought, wins Event #72, $10,000 Seven-Card Stud Championship http://wsop.com/n/75a


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: titaniumbean on July 10, 2017, 12:36:35 PM
Making friends with @phil_hellmuth again. Short with 24 left in 1500 Razz, @BennyG444 and @EastCoastRossyy in the mix too

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEL3GCsVYAEBwWs.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEL3Fb-VYAACDKl.jpg)


what was the penalty for this?

or was it more classic and dreadful TD'ing from the useless floor staff?


At least they provided better cards this year to stop the marking issues from normal play .......oh wait nah..... shock.





Baumann must love the main she runs so pure in it  ;gobsmacked;


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: maldini32 on July 10, 2017, 02:18:48 PM
What's the starting stack for the main?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: titaniumbean on July 10, 2017, 02:27:02 PM
50k


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: maldini32 on July 10, 2017, 02:32:20 PM
50k


👍


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 10, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Flight B for The Main Event registered 2,164 players and ended with 1,643 survivors. Check out their counts: http://bit.ly/2t0NLFO


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 10, 2017, 09:00:17 PM
Then & now.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 10, 2017, 09:51:59 PM
Then & now.



When I first went the Aviation was an outstanding place to poker.

It did go downhill a bit at the end, but my memories of it are fond.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 10, 2017, 10:15:33 PM
Then & now.



When I first went the Aviation was an outstanding place to poker.

It did go downhill a bit at the end, but my memories of it are fond.

Same here. Lovely place to play poker in it's heyday, though too many Frenchies populated it.

I always thought the full English breakfast - free - was a lovely touch.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 11, 2017, 08:25:14 AM
Prize pool for the Main Event:

1st place $8,150,000
9th place $1,000,000
Places Paid 1,084
Prize Pool $67,877,400

Flight 1C of the Main Event closed with 4,262 players, 7,221 across all 3 flights.

third largest ever, biggest field since 2010


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 11, 2017, 09:19:00 AM
Read more about Day 1C here: http://wsop.com/n/75d


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 11, 2017, 03:22:47 PM
Take a look at chip counts for the 3,300 survivors from Flight C of the Main Event: http://bit.ly/2t0NLFO


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 11, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
VBOL today to blonde "WhollyFlush" (far left, as viewed) who takes 120,600 into Day 2A today.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 11, 2017, 07:18:50 PM
Akenhead is on the pokergo/bt feature table first up tonight


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Jamier-Host on July 11, 2017, 08:27:49 PM

Good luck to Flushy today, Day 1b.



Nice filename


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 11, 2017, 08:46:00 PM

Good luck to Flushy today, Day 1b.



Nice filename

Yay.

I can but dream.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: celtic on July 11, 2017, 09:10:25 PM
Whollyflush looks like he's been in the gym. Good luck 👍🏿


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2017, 08:31:52 AM
The Main Event drew players from 83 different countries: http://bit.ly/2tb0c1S


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2017, 08:32:20 AM
Day 2A finished with 267 advancing players, Day 2B finished with 756 players. They join the Day 2C survivors at 11am Thursday

chip counts later


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2017, 08:32:59 AM
Day 2C seat assignments can be found at http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15673/EV73-FLIGHT-C-COUNTS-BY-SEAT.pdf


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2017, 09:04:11 AM
Mickey Craft sits near the top of the Day 2A/B chip counts, while Doug Polk & Sam Grafton were the life of the party http://wsop.com/n/75g


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: titaniumbean on July 12, 2017, 10:09:19 AM
How is the Bates and Dyer doing? punted it off yet?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2017, 10:49:46 AM
Day 2AB of The Main Event ended with 1,023 players. Here is a look at their chip counts and seating assignments: http://bit.ly/2t0NLFO


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 12, 2017, 11:31:40 AM
Day 2AB of The Main Event ended with 1,023 players. Here is a look at their chip counts and seating assignments: http://bit.ly/2t0NLFO

Had 10mins spare so list of Brits:

Lawrence Bayley GB 618,000
Richard Gryko ROMFORD ESSEX, , GB 564,800
Jonathan Prince HAMPSHIRE, , GB 417,200
Sergi Reixach Bournemouth, GB 398,500
Alex Goulder Nottingham, GB 344,300
Charlie Carrel London, GB 343,000
Sam Grafton LEAMINGTON SPA, GB 314,900
Louis Salter London, , GB 271,600
Paul Vas Nunes GUILDFORD, GB 256,500
Jack Sinclair London, , GB 242,900
Peter Akery BRISTOL, , GB 236,400
Niall Farrell Glasgow, GB 230,000
Barny Boatman HENDON, GB 225,000
Adam Bonham Husbands Bosworth, , GB 224,500
James Dempsey Hove, , GB 188,000
Vera Kelleher LONDON, GB 178,900
Raul Martinez Requena London, , GB 173,500
Yiannis Liperis GB 168,500
Tom Middleton SLIDSEN, GB 167,300
Jost Beifuhs Brightten, , GB 165,400
Luke Marsh Scunthorpe, , GB 162,500
Chi Zhang Nottingham, , GB 152,100
Benjamin Heath GB 143,600
Ben Farrell GB 132,000
Daniel Rudd ESSEX, , GB 121,800
Ben Fitzgerald Ruislip, , GB 94,900
Jules Dickerson Kent, , GB 90,000
Nabil Mohamed GB 89,100
James Barron Bridlington, , GB 85,900
Matthew Ashton LIVERPOOL, , GB 84,500
Alistair Hill REDLAND BRISTOL, , GB 80,600
Jack Ellwood NEWCASTLE, GB 78,400
Matt Davenport Cheshire, GB, GB 76,100
James Akenhead LONDON, , GB 74,500
Liv Boeree EAST MOLESY, GB  72,500
Philip Rigby London, , GB 67,000
Chiraag Thanki London, , GB 60,900
Tim Hickling Manchester, GB 57,000
Tobias Hariefeld London, GB 50,000
Usman Siddique London, GB 49,300
Natalia Breviglieri GB 46,900
David Boggon Harpenden Herts, , GB 37,900
Marc Convey SURREY, , GB 37,800
Daiva Byrne London, GB 30,800


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2017, 12:22:04 PM
thank you

plenty of players to cheer on there


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: celtic on July 12, 2017, 12:36:19 PM
thank you

plenty of players to cheer on there


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Magic817 on July 12, 2017, 05:42:23 PM
How is the Bates and Dyer doing? punted it off yet?

The little ones are playing the little one drop. Playing day one on Thursday


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 12, 2017, 06:25:50 PM
How is the Bates and Dyer doing? punted it off yet?

These two?



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: titaniumbean on July 12, 2017, 06:40:06 PM
looks like something out of the League of Gentlemen  ;whistle;


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: dwayne110 on July 12, 2017, 07:18:29 PM
Who would you fancy for the last longer from that Brits list?

Several players who are consistently there or thereabouts, but I think I'd go for Carrel.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 12, 2017, 07:26:52 PM
Who would you fancy for the last longer from that Brits list?

Several players who are consistently there or thereabouts, but I think I'd go for Carrel.

I happened to be tableside yesterday when Carrel got his double up to around his present stack.

Geezer bet pre flop & Carrel called.

Flop;

 2c 3d 5c

Opener pots it, Carrel calls quickly.

Turn;

 2c 3d 5c 3c

Aggressor pots it again, Carrel calls quickly.

River;

 2c 3d 5c 3c Qd

Aggressor makes huge overbet (well over 100,000) & sets Carrel all-in, Carrel calls instantly.

Carrel;  5d 5h

Villain -  Ks 7s




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 12, 2017, 07:28:23 PM
Who would you fancy for the last longer from that Brits list?

Several players who are consistently there or thereabouts, but I think I'd go for Carrel.

I'm not sure who it might be, but my three against the field would be Alex Goulder, Sam Grafton or Richard Gryko, on the wholly irrelevant basis that I like all three very much.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Karabiner on July 12, 2017, 08:46:19 PM
Who would you fancy for the last longer from that Brits list?

Several players who are consistently there or thereabouts, but I think I'd go for Carrel.

I happened to be tableside yesterday when Carrel got his double up to around his present stack.

Geezer bet pre flop & Carrel called.

Flop;

 2c 3d 5c

Opener pots it, Carrel calls quickly.

Turn;

 2c 3d 5c 3c

Aggressor pots it again, Carrel calls quickly.

River;

 2c 3d 5c 3c Qd

Aggressor makes huge overbet (well over 100,000) & sets Carrel all-in, Carrel calls instantly.

Carrel;  5d 5h

Villain -  Ks 7s




He(and the hair)reminds me of a young Blunt Homer.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 12, 2017, 09:01:53 PM
Talal Shakerchi is having a good trip.

He won a $25,000 Bellagio High Roller on June 30th for $218,000.

A 7th in the $50k Players Championship for $77,000 followed, then he won $25,000 Aria High Roller just 4 days ago for $393,000.

Yesterday, amazingly, he won the $25,000 Aria High Roller again for $386,400.

I know he is minted, bla bla, but he's a perfect gentleman. Top bloke.




Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 12, 2017, 10:28:57 PM
4% ish rake?

Vegas giving it away.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 13, 2017, 08:49:27 AM
A demographic breakdown of Main Event participants by age and divided between United States/International players http://bit.ly/2tG5F4m

eg one femaile player under the age of 26 played


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: superwomble on July 13, 2017, 10:45:59 AM
Quote
Lon McEachern‏ Verified account @lonmceachern 12h

Applause in Miranda for player who just ko'd @WilliamKassouf  @WSOP


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 13, 2017, 11:04:54 AM
Just a great story.

https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/wsop-posthumous-gift-gives-five-friends-main-event-dream-593215/ (https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/wsop-posthumous-gift-gives-five-friends-main-event-dream-593215/)



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 13, 2017, 11:27:38 AM
After 15 cashes this summer thus far, Ryan Hughes bags up a top 5 stack on Day 2C of the Main Event. http://wsop.com/n/75j


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: celtic on July 13, 2017, 11:30:33 AM
Just a great story.

https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/wsop-posthumous-gift-gives-five-friends-main-event-dream-593215/ (https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/wsop-posthumous-gift-gives-five-friends-main-event-dream-593215/)



Love stories like this.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: superwomble on July 13, 2017, 12:17:27 PM
Story about a Brit who made Day 2 from a $1 satellite:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2017/07/888-qualifier-wsop-main-event-28495.htm

He knocked me out of a Redtooth national final last year but fair play!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: superwomble on July 13, 2017, 12:18:39 PM
Just a great story.

https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/wsop-posthumous-gift-gives-five-friends-main-event-dream-593215/ (https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/wsop-posthumous-gift-gives-five-friends-main-event-dream-593215/)



Love stories like this.

+1, great story, apart from the sad part obv.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 13, 2017, 04:18:18 PM
A total of 2,572 players have made it through to Day 3 of The Main Event. Take look at the remaining field: http://bit.ly/2t0NLFO

Longines, do your stuff please!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 13, 2017, 04:49:24 PM
"generalist" article

Phil Ivey’s Semi-Bluff

Poker’s most mysterious and respected player is sitting out this year’s World Series. Is it because he doesn’t care about his legacy? Or because an international scandal threatens his gambling future?

https://theringer.com/phil-ivey-world-series-of-poker-51cd56b8cccf


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 13, 2017, 05:16:53 PM
No probs, first number is chip position.

I think blinds on day 3 start at 300-1000/2000. Average stack is 140,400.

1 Artan Dedusha LONDON, GB 680,000
2 Lawrence Bayley GB 618,000
4 Richard Gryko ROMFORD ESSEX, GB 564,800
34 Jonathan Prince HAMPSHIRE, GB 417,200
47 Sergi Reixach BOURNEMOUTH, GB 398,500
54 Paul McTaggart GB 391,500
100 Alex Goulder NOTTINGHAM, GB 344,300
105 Charlie Carrel LONDON, GB 343,000
151 Sam Grafton LEAMINGTON SPA, GB 314,900
154 Kevin Williams LEYTON STONE, GB 311,500
177 Matthew Moss LONDON, GB 300,200
193 Paul Otto EDINBURGH, GB 295,300
197 John Bonadies Ii BEDFORD, GB 291,700
215 Robert Cowen SWANSEA, GB 283,800
253 Louis Salter LONDON, GB 271,600
255 Sadan Turker LONDON, GB 270,600
299 Paul Vas Nunes GUILDFORD, GB 256,500
304 Fraser MacIntyre AYR, GB 255,300
317 Arron Fletcher KINGSTON, GB 251,100
355 Jack Sinclair LONDON, GB 242,900
366 Daniel James GODAMINO, GB 240,000
382 Peter Akery BRISTOL, GB 236,400
412 Niall Farrell GLASGOW, GB 230,000
439 Barny Boatman HENDON, GB 225,000
445 Adam Bonham HUSBANDS BOSWORTH, GB 224,500
460 Thomas Hall SHREWSBURY, GB 221,300
493 Lam Trinh LONDON, GB 214,900
620 Yudhishter Jaswal LONDON, GB 191,900
651 James Dempsey HOVE, GB 188,000
671 Jake Quinesee GB 184,900
715 Vera Kelleher LONDON, GB 178,900
753 Raul Martinez Requena LONDON, GB 173,500
781 Yiannis Liperis GB 168,500
789 Tom Middleton SLIDSEN, GB 167,300
793 Robert Heidorn LONDON, GB 167,000
806 Jost Beifuhs BRIGHTTEN, GB 165,400
829 Luke Marsh SCUNTHORPE, GB 162,500
875 Lee Taylor GB 157,400
886 Jack Sandford STEVENAGE, GB 156,000
888 Waikiat Lee SALFORD, GB 155,800
904 Tamer Kamel LONDON, GB 153,700
913 Daniel Tang SALFORD, GB 152,900
920 Chi Zhang NOTTINGHAM, GB 152,100
937 Joel Ettedgi EDGWARE, GB 150,000
953 Guy Taylor NASSINGTON, GB 148,800
998 Benjamin Heath GB 143,600
1123 Ben Farrell GB 132,000
1134 Martin Nielsen LONDON, GB 131,300
1159 Sergio Espina Aido LONDON, GB 129,100
1169 George Mcdonald GLASGOW, GB 127,700
1185 Rupom Pal ESSEX, GB 126,300
1233 Daniel Rudd ESSEX, GB 121,800
1260 Thomas Waters HITCHIN, GB 119,500
1269 Adam Monaghan LONDON, GB 117,700
1338 Steven Watts LONDON, GB 112,500
1362 Craig McCorkell WEST SUSSEX, GB 110,000
1364 Jeff Kimber LONDON, GB 109,900
1379 Mark Gardner GB 108,800
1384 Jake Cody ROCHDALE, GB 108,400
1474 Katie Swift KENT, GB 102,000
1485 Andrew Hills PRESTON, GB 100,900
1570 Ben Fitzgerald RUISLIP, GB 94,900
1640 Jules Dickerson KENT, GB 90,000
1655 Nabil Mohamed GB 89,100
1681 Talal Shakerchi ESHER, GB 87,200
1697 Charles Clark LONDON, GB 86,000
1700 James Barron BRIDLINGTON, GB 85,900
1718 Matthew Ashton LIVERPOOL, GB 84,500
1759 Alistair Hill REDLAND BRISTOL, GB 80,600
1789 Thomas Ward GB 79,000
1795 Jack Ellwood NEWCASTLE, GB 78,400
1829 Matt Davenport CHESHIRE, GB, GB 76,100
1830 Steffen Sontheimer BRIGHTON, GB 76,000
1847 James Akenhead LONDON, GB 74,500
1879 Liv Boeree EAST MOLESY, GB 72,500
1882 Frank (UK) Williams WOLVERHAMPTON, GB 72,400
1899 Luke Brereton GB 70,600
1933 Max Silver LONDON, GB 68,600
1949 Philip Rigby LONDON, GB 67,000
1966 Christopher Walker LONDON, GB 65,900
2009 Mark Hamilton GB 63,300
2043 Nicholas Zambas SOUTHEND ON SEA, GB 61,400
2048 Chiraag Thanki LONDON, GB 60,900
2090 Xizhe Yuan LONDON, GB 57,400
2093 Tim Hickling MANCHESTER, GB 57,000
2112 Jason Berry BOURNEMNOUTH , GB 55,500
2206 Tobias Hariefeld LONDON, GB 50,000
2215 Usman Siddique LONDON, GB 49,300
2251 Natalia Breviglieri GB 46,900
2357 David Boggon HARPENDEN HERTS, GB 37,900
2358 Marc Convey SURREY, GB 37,800
2391 Alberto Morales LONDON, GB 35,100
2406 Hemal Mehta BARNET, GB 33,900
2439 Daiva Byrne LONDON, GB 30,800
2485 Gabriel Blehaut LONDON, GB 25,400
2507 Damien Le Goff PLYMOUTH, GB 23,200
2510 Giulio Mascolo LONDON, GB 22,400


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 13, 2017, 05:18:06 PM
No probs, first number is chip position.

I think blinds on day 3 start at 300-1000/2000. Average stack is 140,400.

1 Artan Dedusha LONDON, GB 680,000
2 Lawrence Bayley GB 618,000
4 Richard Gryko ROMFORD ESSEX, GB 564,800
34 Jonathan Prince HAMPSHIRE, GB 417,200
47 Sergi Reixach BOURNEMOUTH, GB 398,500
54 Paul McTaggart GB 391,500
100 Alex Goulder NOTTINGHAM, GB 344,300
105 Charlie Carrel LONDON, GB 343,000
151 Sam Grafton LEAMINGTON SPA, GB 314,900
154 Kevin Williams LEYTON STONE, GB 311,500
177 Matthew Moss LONDON, GB 300,200
193 Paul Otto EDINBURGH, GB 295,300
197 John Bonadies Ii BEDFORD, GB 291,700
215 Robert Cowen SWANSEA, GB 283,800
253 Louis Salter LONDON, GB 271,600
255 Sadan Turker LONDON, GB 270,600
299 Paul Vas Nunes GUILDFORD, GB 256,500
304 Fraser MacIntyre AYR, GB 255,300
317 Arron Fletcher KINGSTON, GB 251,100
355 Jack Sinclair LONDON, GB 242,900
366 Daniel James GODAMINO, GB 240,000
382 Peter Akery BRISTOL, GB 236,400
412 Niall Farrell GLASGOW, GB 230,000
439 Barny Boatman HENDON, GB 225,000
445 Adam Bonham HUSBANDS BOSWORTH, GB 224,500
460 Thomas Hall SHREWSBURY, GB 221,300
493 Lam Trinh LONDON, GB 214,900
620 Yudhishter Jaswal LONDON, GB 191,900
651 James Dempsey HOVE, GB 188,000
671 Jake Quinesee GB 184,900
715 Vera Kelleher LONDON, GB 178,900
753 Raul Martinez Requena LONDON, GB 173,500
781 Yiannis Liperis GB 168,500
789 Tom Middleton SLIDSEN, GB 167,300
793 Robert Heidorn LONDON, GB 167,000
806 Jost Beifuhs BRIGHTTEN, GB 165,400
829 Luke Marsh SCUNTHORPE, GB 162,500
875 Lee Taylor GB 157,400
886 Jack Sandford STEVENAGE, GB 156,000
888 Waikiat Lee SALFORD, GB 155,800
904 Tamer Kamel LONDON, GB 153,700
913 Daniel Tang SALFORD, GB 152,900
920 Chi Zhang NOTTINGHAM, GB 152,100
937 Joel Ettedgi EDGWARE, GB 150,000
953 Guy Taylor NASSINGTON, GB 148,800
998 Benjamin Heath GB 143,600
1123 Ben Farrell GB 132,000
1134 Martin Nielsen LONDON, GB 131,300
1159 Sergio Espina Aido LONDON, GB 129,100
1169 George Mcdonald GLASGOW, GB 127,700
1185 Rupom Pal ESSEX, GB 126,300
1233 Daniel Rudd ESSEX, GB 121,800
1260 Thomas Waters HITCHIN, GB 119,500
1269 Adam Monaghan LONDON, GB 117,700
1338 Steven Watts LONDON, GB 112,500
1362 Craig McCorkell WEST SUSSEX, GB 110,000
1364 Jeff Kimber LONDON, GB 109,900
1379 Mark Gardner GB 108,800
1384 Jake Cody ROCHDALE, GB 108,400
1474 Katie Swift KENT, GB 102,000
1485 Andrew Hills PRESTON, GB 100,900
1570 Ben Fitzgerald RUISLIP, GB 94,900
1640 Jules Dickerson KENT, GB 90,000
1655 Nabil Mohamed GB 89,100
1681 Talal Shakerchi ESHER, GB 87,200
1697 Charles Clark LONDON, GB 86,000
1700 James Barron BRIDLINGTON, GB 85,900
1718 Matthew Ashton LIVERPOOL, GB 84,500
1759 Alistair Hill REDLAND BRISTOL, GB 80,600
1789 Thomas Ward GB 79,000
1795 Jack Ellwood NEWCASTLE, GB 78,400
1829 Matt Davenport CHESHIRE, GB, GB 76,100
1830 Steffen Sontheimer BRIGHTON, GB 76,000
1847 James Akenhead LONDON, GB 74,500
1879 Liv Boeree EAST MOLESY, GB 72,500
1882 Frank (UK) Williams WOLVERHAMPTON, GB 72,400
1899 Luke Brereton GB 70,600
1933 Max Silver LONDON, GB 68,600
1949 Philip Rigby LONDON, GB 67,000
1966 Christopher Walker LONDON, GB 65,900
2009 Mark Hamilton GB 63,300
2043 Nicholas Zambas SOUTHEND ON SEA, GB 61,400
2048 Chiraag Thanki LONDON, GB 60,900
2090 Xizhe Yuan LONDON, GB 57,400
2093 Tim Hickling MANCHESTER, GB 57,000
2112 Jason Berry BOURNEMNOUTH , GB 55,500
2206 Tobias Hariefeld LONDON, GB 50,000
2215 Usman Siddique LONDON, GB 49,300
2251 Natalia Breviglieri GB 46,900
2357 David Boggon HARPENDEN HERTS, GB 37,900
2358 Marc Convey SURREY, GB 37,800
2391 Alberto Morales LONDON, GB 35,100
2406 Hemal Mehta BARNET, GB 33,900
2439 Daiva Byrne LONDON, GB 30,800
2485 Gabriel Blehaut LONDON, GB 25,400
2507 Damien Le Goff PLYMOUTH, GB 23,200
2510 Giulio Mascolo LONDON, GB 22,400


superstar. thank you


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 13, 2017, 05:19:22 PM
a reminder

Prize pool for the Main Event:

1st place $8,150,000
9th place $1,000,000
Places Paid 1,084
Prize Pool $67,877,400

i suppose we are expecting tonight to be the bubble?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 13, 2017, 05:30:01 PM
a reminder

Prize pool for the Main Event:

1st place $8,150,000
9th place $1,000,000
Places Paid 1,084
Prize Pool $67,877,400

i suppose we are expecting tonight to be the bubble?

That's gonna be really close, but with so many being paid I think play will slow to a crawl in today's last 2 levels.

1,084 get paid, & I'd expect - without any late stage slowing down - 1,100 to survive the day. It'd be rather nice if they played on tonight until the Money Bubble, then everyone who comes back tomorrow gets paid, but the play near the bubble in this, with 120 tables on the go, will be incredibly slow.   


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 13, 2017, 07:54:34 PM

Jack Effel announced that play will continue tonight until the money bubble bursts.

Good decision, imo.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on July 13, 2017, 08:49:10 PM
No probs, first number is chip position.

I think blinds on day 3 start at 300-1000/2000. Average stack is 140,400.

1 Artan Dedusha LONDON, GB 680,000
2 Lawrence Bayley GB 618,000
4 Richard Gryko ROMFORD ESSEX, GB 564,800
34 Jonathan Prince HAMPSHIRE, GB 417,200
47 Sergi Reixach BOURNEMOUTH, GB 398,500
54 Paul McTaggart GB 391,500
100 Alex Goulder NOTTINGHAM, GB 344,300
105 Charlie Carrel LONDON, GB 343,000
151 Sam Grafton LEAMINGTON SPA, GB 314,900
154 Kevin Williams LEYTON STONE, GB 311,500
177 Matthew Moss LONDON, GB 300,200
193 Paul Otto EDINBURGH, GB 295,300
197 John Bonadies Ii BEDFORD, GB 291,700
215 Robert Cowen SWANSEA, GB 283,800
253 Louis Salter LONDON, GB 271,600
255 Sadan Turker LONDON, GB 270,600
299 Paul Vas Nunes GUILDFORD, GB 256,500
304 Fraser MacIntyre AYR, GB 255,300
317 Arron Fletcher KINGSTON, GB 251,100
355 Jack Sinclair LONDON, GB 242,900
366 Daniel James GODAMINO, GB 240,000
382 Peter Akery BRISTOL, GB 236,400
412 Niall Farrell GLASGOW, GB 230,000
439 Barny Boatman HENDON, GB 225,000
445 Adam Bonham HUSBANDS BOSWORTH, GB 224,500
460 Thomas Hall SHREWSBURY, GB 221,300
493 Lam Trinh LONDON, GB 214,900
620 Yudhishter Jaswal LONDON, GB 191,900
651 James Dempsey HOVE, GB 188,000
671 Jake Quinesee GB 184,900
715 Vera Kelleher LONDON, GB 178,900
753 Raul Martinez Requena LONDON, GB 173,500
781 Yiannis Liperis GB 168,500
789 Tom Middleton SLIDSEN, GB 167,300
793 Robert Heidorn LONDON, GB 167,000
806 Jost Beifuhs BRIGHTTEN, GB 165,400
829 Luke Marsh SCUNTHORPE, GB 162,500
875 Lee Taylor GB 157,400
886 Jack Sandford STEVENAGE, GB 156,000
888 Waikiat Lee SALFORD, GB 155,800
904 Tamer Kamel LONDON, GB 153,700
913 Daniel Tang SALFORD, GB 152,900
920 Chi Zhang NOTTINGHAM, GB 152,100
937 Joel Ettedgi EDGWARE, GB 150,000
953 Guy Taylor NASSINGTON, GB 148,800
998 Benjamin Heath GB 143,600
1123 Ben Farrell GB 132,000
1134 Martin Nielsen LONDON, GB 131,300
1159 Sergio Espina Aido LONDON, GB 129,100
1169 George Mcdonald GLASGOW, GB 127,700
1185 Rupom Pal ESSEX, GB 126,300
1233 Daniel Rudd ESSEX, GB 121,800
1260 Thomas Waters HITCHIN, GB 119,500
1269 Adam Monaghan LONDON, GB 117,700
1338 Steven Watts LONDON, GB 112,500
1362 Craig McCorkell WEST SUSSEX, GB 110,000
1364 Jeff Kimber LONDON, GB 109,900
1379 Mark Gardner GB 108,800
1384 Jake Cody ROCHDALE, GB 108,400
1474 Katie Swift KENT, GB 102,000
1485 Andrew Hills PRESTON, GB 100,900
1570 Ben Fitzgerald RUISLIP, GB 94,900
1640 Jules Dickerson KENT, GB 90,000
1655 Nabil Mohamed GB 89,100
1681 Talal Shakerchi ESHER, GB 87,200
1697 Charles Clark LONDON, GB 86,000
1700 James Barron BRIDLINGTON, GB 85,900
1718 Matthew Ashton LIVERPOOL, GB 84,500
1759 Alistair Hill REDLAND BRISTOL, GB 80,600
1789 Thomas Ward GB 79,000
1795 Jack Ellwood NEWCASTLE, GB 78,400
1829 Matt Davenport CHESHIRE, GB, GB 76,100
1830 Steffen Sontheimer BRIGHTON, GB 76,000
1847 James Akenhead LONDON, GB 74,500
1879 Liv Boeree EAST MOLESY, GB 72,500
1882 Frank (UK) Williams WOLVERHAMPTON, GB 72,400
1899 Luke Brereton GB 70,600
1933 Max Silver LONDON, GB 68,600
1949 Philip Rigby LONDON, GB 67,000
1966 Christopher Walker LONDON, GB 65,900
2009 Mark Hamilton GB 63,300
2043 Nicholas Zambas SOUTHEND ON SEA, GB 61,400
2048 Chiraag Thanki LONDON, GB 60,900
2090 Xizhe Yuan LONDON, GB 57,400
2093 Tim Hickling MANCHESTER, GB 57,000
2112 Jason Berry BOURNEMNOUTH , GB 55,500
2206 Tobias Hariefeld LONDON, GB 50,000
2215 Usman Siddique LONDON, GB 49,300
2251 Natalia Breviglieri GB 46,900
2357 David Boggon HARPENDEN HERTS, GB 37,900
2358 Marc Convey SURREY, GB 37,800
2391 Alberto Morales LONDON, GB 35,100
2406 Hemal Mehta BARNET, GB 33,900
2439 Daiva Byrne LONDON, GB 30,800
2485 Gabriel Blehaut LONDON, GB 25,400
2507 Damien Le Goff PLYMOUTH, GB 23,200
2510 Giulio Mascolo LONDON, GB 22,400


Amazing that 3 of the top 4 are from the uk lots of quality players in that chip count


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 14, 2017, 06:53:34 AM


From PokerNews;


When players returned from dinner break, one player's seat was empty, and the roughly 630,000 in chips he previously had in front of him were gone, as well. It turns out that this player had been banned from all Caesars properties and thus barred from entering World Series of Poker tournaments.

The player had knowingly bypassed security, going to great lengths to hide his real identity when registering for this tournament. When tournament organizers found out, his stack was terminated, and the chips were removed from the tournament. He left the premises without incident. His tournament buy-in remains in the prize pool, so the payout is not affected by this incident.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: baldock92 on July 14, 2017, 07:10:37 AM
At least he didn't get deep before being given the boot!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2017, 07:56:39 AM


From PokerNews;


When players returned from dinner break, one player's seat was empty, and the roughly 630,000 in chips he previously had in front of him were gone, as well. It turns out that this player had been banned from all Caesars properties and thus barred from entering World Series of Poker tournaments.

The player had knowingly bypassed security, going to great lengths to hide his real identity when registering for this tournament. When tournament organizers found out, his stack was terminated, and the chips were removed from the tournament. He left the premises without incident. His tournament buy-in remains in the prize pool, so the payout is not affected by this incident.



Mind blowing stupidity.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2017, 08:50:44 AM
currently 1,090, 6 away from the money if you want to follow live


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2017, 08:51:02 AM
Final numbers for Event 74: $1,000 Little One for OneDrop Entries: 4,391 1st Place: $528,316 Places Paid: 659 http://bit.ly/2tlOv8Q


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2017, 08:51:37 AM
these were the chip leaders in the main a short time ago

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DErCdzzVwAATHZL.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 14, 2017, 09:44:36 AM
Talal Shakerchi is having a good trip.

He won a $25,000 Bellagio High Roller on June 30th for $218,000.

A 7th in the $50k Players Championship for $77,000 followed, then he won $25,000 Aria High Roller just 4 days ago for $393,000.

Yesterday, amazingly, he won the $25,000 Aria High Roller again for $386,400.

I know he is minted, bla bla, but he's a perfect gentleman. Top bloke.




Plinop won this tonight for the 2nd time in a week.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 14, 2017, 09:51:41 AM
Talal Shakerchi is having a good trip.

He won a $25,000 Bellagio High Roller on June 30th for $218,000.

A 7th in the $50k Players Championship for $77,000 followed, then he won $25,000 Aria High Roller just 4 days ago for $393,000.

Yesterday, amazingly, he won the $25,000 Aria High Roller again for $386,400.

I know he is minted, bla bla, but he's a perfect gentleman. Top bloke.




Plinop won this tonight for the 2nd time in a week.

How the other half lives.

I used to play against raidalot on the old betfair cash tables.  Was thinking how our poker careers have moved in tandem since then.  Ofc I don't have the same experience with Pleno as he used to only play microstakes...

Well done Pleno.  Some turnaround from 200k down. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: booder on July 14, 2017, 10:35:06 AM
Talal Shakerchi is having a good trip.

He won a $25,000 Bellagio High Roller on June 30th for $218,000.

A 7th in the $50k Players Championship for $77,000 followed, then he won $25,000 Aria High Roller just 4 days ago for $393,000.

Yesterday, amazingly, he won the $25,000 Aria High Roller again for $386,400.

I know he is minted, bla bla, but he's a perfect gentleman. Top bloke.




Plinop won this tonight for the 2nd time in a week.

What a boss.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: typhoon13 on July 14, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
Talal Shakerchi is having a good trip.

He won a $25,000 Bellagio High Roller on June 30th for $218,000.

A 7th in the $50k Players Championship for $77,000 followed, then he won $25,000 Aria High Roller just 4 days ago for $393,000.

Yesterday, amazingly, he won the $25,000 Aria High Roller again for $386,400.

I know he is minted, bla bla, but he's a perfect gentleman. Top bloke.




Plinop won this tonight for the 2nd time in a week.

Like it

Shows what a rest can do


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: I KNOW IT on July 14, 2017, 11:08:02 AM


From PokerNews;


When players returned from dinner break, one player's seat was empty, and the roughly 630,000 in chips he previously had in front of him were gone, as well. It turns out that this player had been banned from all Caesars properties and thus barred from entering World Series of Poker tournaments.

The player had knowingly bypassed security, going to great lengths to hide his real identity when registering for this tournament. When tournament organizers found out, his stack was terminated, and the chips were removed from the tournament. He left the premises without incident. His tournament buy-in remains in the prize pool, so the payout is not affected by this incident.



Mind blowing stupidity.

Any idea who it was ?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: redsimon on July 14, 2017, 11:36:44 AM


From PokerNews;


When players returned from dinner break, one player's seat was empty, and the roughly 630,000 in chips he previously had in front of him were gone, as well. It turns out that this player had been banned from all Caesars properties and thus barred from entering World Series of Poker tournaments.

The player had knowingly bypassed security, going to great lengths to hide his real identity when registering for this tournament. When tournament organizers found out, his stack was terminated, and the chips were removed from the tournament. He left the premises without incident. His tournament buy-in remains in the prize pool, so the payout is not affected by this incident.



Mind blowing stupidity.

Any idea who it was ?

Joe Stiers

His twitter is Joe_Stiers not getting much sympathy online though


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
Philadelphia's Patrick Lavecchia, with 1.552 million chips, tops 1,084 Main Event survivors as money bubble bursts. http://wsop.com/n/75k


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bookiebasher on July 14, 2017, 01:09:43 PM


From PokerNews;


When players returned from dinner break, one player's seat was empty, and the roughly 630,000 in chips he previously had in front of him were gone, as well. It turns out that this player had been banned from all Caesars properties and thus barred from entering World Series of Poker tournaments.

The player had knowingly bypassed security, going to great lengths to hide his real identity when registering for this tournament. When tournament organizers found out, his stack was terminated, and the chips were removed from the tournament. He left the premises without incident. His tournament buy-in remains in the prize pool, so the payout is not affected by this incident.



Mind blowing stupidity.

Any idea who it was ?

Joe Stiers

His twitter is Joe_Stiers not getting much sympathy online though


https://www.pokertube.com/article/463-joe-stiers-full-explanation-of-ban-from-caesars-properties


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 14, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
End of day 3. Blinds 1000-3000/6000. Average stack 333,000.

9 Artan Dedusha London, , GB 1,288,000
25 Paul Vas Nunes GUILDFORD, GB 1,073,000
45 Charlie Carrel London, GB 964,000
60 Matthew Moss LONDON, GB 872,000
69 Joel Ettedgi EDGWARE, , GB 833,000
73 Adam Bonham Husbands Bosworth, , GB 827,000
76 Alistair Hill REDLAND BRISTOL, , GB 823,000
77 Richard Gryko ROMFORD ESSEX, , GB 819,000
98 Robert Cowen Swansea, , GB 758,000
136 Sergi Reixach Bournemouth, GB 654,000
166 John Hesp Bridlington, GB 613,000
169 Max Silver LONDON, GB 606,000
187 Niall Farrell Glasgow, GB 575,000
193 Jonathan Prince HAMPSHIRE, , GB 563,000
252 Tobias Hariefeld London, GB 477,000
267 Jack Sinclair London, , GB 463,000
279 George Mcdonald Glasgow, , GB 441,000
296 Lawrence Bayley GB 422,000
307 Peter Akery BRISTOL, , GB 415,000
340 Liv Boeree EAST MOLESY, GB 384,000
345 Daniel Rudd ESSEX, , GB 381,000
372 Xizhe Yuan London, , GB 354,000
387 Tom Middleton SLIDSEN, GB 345,000
461 Paul Otto Edinburgh, , GB 293,000
521 Andrew Hills Preston, GB 260,000
549 Lee Taylor GB 245,000
560 Luke Brereton GB 239,000
596 Sadan Turker LONDON, , GB 225,000
603 John Bonadies Ii Bedford, , GB 222,000
631 Charlotte Godwin London, , GB 209,000
661 Thomas Ward (SCO) GB 191,000
700 Adam Monaghan London, GB 173,000
726 Barny Boatman HENDON, GB 158,000
736 Yiannis Liperis GB 156,000
739 Mark Gardner GB 154,000
758 Charles Clark LONDON, , GB 148,000
783 Guy Taylor Nassington, GB 139,000
798 Waikiat Lee Salford, , GB 130,000
847 James Dempsey Hove, , GB 114,000
857 Chi Zhang Nottingham, , GB 112,000
888 Kevin Williams LEYTON STONE, , GB 97,000
923 Jules Dickerson Kent, , GB 81,000
946 Daiva London, GB 73,000
973 Jost Beifuhs Brightten, , GB 65,000
987 Luke Marsh Scunthorpe, , GB 60,000



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2017, 02:00:13 PM
Thank you

pvas2
firaldo
gryko
well chief
upthemariners
hatthehole
Yian
Barny B
Tempor
Flushy
baltic blonde

all posters past and present on here...

good luck!

----

what price would you lay me more than 1 Brits on the final table?

what price would you lay me a Brit to win it?

 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: celtic on July 14, 2017, 02:17:10 PM
JP Kelly not on that list but he's made it through to day 4 too.

Good luck all. Hope wellchief gets to the final, would be good considering the beat he took a couple of years ago in 11th or 12th.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 14, 2017, 02:22:08 PM
JP Kelly not on that list but he's made it through to day 4 too.


I'm guessing this is him:

262 John Kelly BUCKS, , IT 468,000


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on July 14, 2017, 03:31:13 PM
Alex goulder last update on day 2a? 340 k ??
What happened??


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2017, 03:38:35 PM
Alex goulder last update on day 2a? 340 k ??
What happened??

out 1400th ish

he said on twitter he ran badly but also played badly


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 14, 2017, 03:45:42 PM
thanks for the list Longines!  Much easier than having to roll through the wsop updates every day.   Appreciate it as i am sure many others do on blonde as well.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bobAlike on July 14, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
thanks for the list Longines!  Much easier than having to roll through the wsop updates every day.   Appreciate it as i am sure many others do on blonde as well.

+1


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Geo the Sarge on July 14, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
thanks for the list Longines!  Much easier than having to roll through the wsop updates every day.   Appreciate it as i am sure many others do on blonde as well.

+1

Thanks buddy. How's the recovery going

Geo


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: RickBFA on July 14, 2017, 04:29:51 PM
Add to that list of Brits Philip Hepburn on 406,000. Listed as United States in error.

Would love to see Phil run deep.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: titaniumbean on July 14, 2017, 06:50:49 PM
Add to that list of Brits Philip Hepburn on 406,000. Listed as United States in error.

Would love to see Phil run deep.

in my experience I was never listed as UK,  I was down as Guyana or some other competely random place (different each time they reported)!!

so probably quite  a few that slip an automated grab from the spreadsheet. nice little secret sweats.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 14, 2017, 06:56:42 PM

Thanks buddy. How's the recovery going

Geo

Not bad thanks George. Got no feeling in my left hand due to nerve damage when they took an artery from the arm but hopefully it will recover. New pipes feel fine.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Geo the Sarge on July 14, 2017, 07:16:00 PM

Thanks buddy. How's the recovery going

Geo

Not bad thanks George. Got no feeling in my left hand due to nerve damage when they took an artery from the arm but hopefully it will recover. New pipes feel fine.

Good to hear mate, hopefully see you at the tables again soon

Geo


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 14, 2017, 08:03:24 PM

For those with Poker Go, there is a furious row in progress on the Feature Table between Jeff Lissandro & Jack Effel.

It continued for many minutes, & neither is yielding.

Lissandro is steaming like a good 'un. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: I KNOW IT on July 14, 2017, 08:53:39 PM

For those with Poker Go, there is a furious row in progress on the Feature Table between Jeff Lissandro & Jack Effel.

It continued for many minutes, & neither is yielding.

Lissandro is steaming like a good 'un. 

For those not Poker go , what is it about ?  ;)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 14, 2017, 08:56:34 PM

For those with Poker Go, there is a furious row in progress on the Feature Table between Jeff Lissandro & Jack Effel.

It continued for many minutes, & neither is yielding.

Lissandro is steaming like a good 'un. 

For those not Poker go , what is it about ?  ;)

Good luck asking ME that, Craig. ;)

Poker Go, AFAIK, is the Live Steam of the WSOP feature Tables. We can view it here in the Media Centre, but I believe it is normally subscription-based.

It's actually very good. No adverts, & uninterrupted "every hand" coverage, & you can hear the player chatting. Most of the commentary is OK, too. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 14, 2017, 08:57:25 PM

Actually, it might be in an App.

Please don't ask me what an App is, though.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Karabiner on July 14, 2017, 09:00:45 PM
Putting or not putting his ante in?

Lisandro has previous for being in the right when he is the accused at WSOP.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: I KNOW IT on July 14, 2017, 09:00:58 PM

Actually, it might be in an App.

Please don't ask me what an App is, though.

I meant what is the row about  ;D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 14, 2017, 09:03:10 PM

Actually, it might be in an App.

Please don't ask me what an App is, though.

I meant what is the row about  ;D


from wsop.com

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?rr=5&grid=&tid=&dayof=

After eliminating two opponents in quick succession, Jeff Lisandro got into a little spat with the staff about the dealer being unsure about Lisandro's action and Lisandro told the dealer how he felt about the inquiry.

With Lisandro seemingly already on edge, World Series of Poker VP and Tournament Director, Jack Effel asked to speak to Lisandro off the table about a separate issue. Lisandro immediately was unhappy with the request and made sure Effel was well aware.

Effel told Lisandro that the video production team was missing some of Lisandro's cards and Effel asked Lisandro to make sure he was displaying his cards properly.

This seemed to set Lisandro off, saying he was showing his cards and as Lisandro moved back to the table, his voice started to rise, "I'm showing my cards, leave me alone!" Lisandro yelled at Effel.

"Come over here," Effel demanded. "You're on penalty," Effel stated as Lisandro walked away from the table again. "You are completely worked up. I'm trying to get you to calm down."

Lisandro continued to argue his case and asked Effel to tell the video production team what he thought of them.

"Listen to me. You are taking this too far," Effel said trying to get Lisandro off the edge.

"You are aggravating me," Lisandro replied.

"You are aggravating yourself," Effel said as he let Lisandro go back to the table. "We're going to stop it and not talk about this anymore."

Lisandro has since returned to the table and seems to have calmed down a bit.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 14, 2017, 09:09:20 PM

Actually, it might be in an App.

Please don't ask me what an App is, though.

I meant what is the row about  ;D


Whoops.

Mr Doobs has answered accurately now. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: I KNOW IT on July 14, 2017, 09:09:57 PM

Actually, it might be in an App.

Please don't ask me what an App is, though.

I meant what is the row about  ;D


from wsop.com

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?rr=5&grid=&tid=&dayof=

After eliminating two opponents in quick succession, Jeff Lisandro got into a little spat with the staff about the dealer being unsure about Lisandro's action and Lisandro told the dealer how he felt about the inquiry.

With Lisandro seemingly already on edge, World Series of Poker VP and Tournament Director, Jack Effel asked to speak to Lisandro off the table about a separate issue. Lisandro immediately was unhappy with the request and made sure Effel was well aware.

Effel told Lisandro that the video production team was missing some of Lisandro's cards and Effel asked Lisandro to make sure he was displaying his cards properly.

This seemed to set Lisandro off, saying he was showing his cards and as Lisandro moved back to the table, his voice started to rise, "I'm showing my cards, leave me alone!" Lisandro yelled at Effel.

"Come over here," Effel demanded. "You're on penalty," Effel stated as Lisandro walked away from the table again. "You are completely worked up. I'm trying to get you to calm down."

Lisandro continued to argue his case and asked Effel to tell the video production team what he thought of them.

"Listen to me. You are taking this too far," Effel said trying to get Lisandro off the edge.

"You are aggravating me," Lisandro replied.

"You are aggravating yourself," Effel said as he let Lisandro go back to the table. "We're going to stop it and not talk about this anymore."

Lisandro has since returned to the table and seems to have calmed down a bit.


Thanks Doobs


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Junior Senior on July 14, 2017, 11:24:51 PM
How much have Poker Go added to the prize pool for the privilege of seeing the player's cards?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 15, 2017, 12:03:41 AM
How much have Poker Go added to the prize pool for the privilege of seeing the player's cards?

The same amount as ESPN, who are also showing hole cards. Zilch, zero.

There is a 30 minute delay on Poker Go, same on ESPN when they are "live", to comply with Nevada State Gaming Regulations.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 15, 2017, 12:14:13 AM
How much have Poker Go added to the prize pool for the privilege of seeing the player's cards?

The same amount as ESPN, who are also showing hole cards. Zilch, zero.

There is a 30 minute delay on Poker Go, same on ESPN when they are "live", to comply with Nevada State Gaming Regulations.

Meh.  You sign a disclaimer.  Maybe not everyone knows why; 1.01 Lisandro does. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 15, 2017, 08:33:30 AM
at the end of day 4 297 remain

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEwdzD-U0AQpx4I.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 15, 2017, 08:43:05 AM

Last time I looked, JP Kelly had over 4 million, & Richard Gryko was around 3 million. Both Top Ten stacks those.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 15, 2017, 08:47:02 AM
Danny Rudd, Max Silver, Charlie Carrell all still in

if anyone hears of others before the chip counts go up, please post them



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 15, 2017, 08:58:27 AM
Day 5 of the Main Event starts Saturday at 11am with 297 players.

Chips http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15673/EV73-DAY4-COUNTS-BY-CHIPS.pdf

Seats http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/15673/EV73-DAY4-COUNTS-BY-SEAT.pdf


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 15, 2017, 09:10:10 AM
I make that 19 Brits...and indeed JP and Richard are in the top 10

Longines.....


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: MattyHollis on July 15, 2017, 09:20:05 AM
I make that 19 Brits...and indeed JP and Richard are in the top 10

Longines.....

Are you sure that's right? John Kelly in the top 10 has a different flag and this is also on the chip count list :

JP Kelly   GB            Busted


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: FUN4FRASER on July 15, 2017, 09:23:24 AM
Kelly Wins a Massive Pot to Close the Day
Posted 1 hour 11 minutes ago Webjoker • Level 21: 10,000-20,000, 3,000 ante SHARE
As the bagging and tagging began, JP Kelly was seen with a massive stack, a lot more than he had when we checked on him minutes before. Kelly told us the details of the hand that got him up to almost 4 million.

A player in late position opened for 45,000 and the cutoff called, and so did Kelly on the button, and the player in the big blind. Action checked to Kelly on {K-}{J-}{10-} with two hearts. Kelly bet 160,000 and the big blind gave up. The initial raiser called, the cutoff folded.

The {8-Hearts} hit the turn and the initial raiser checked. Kelly bet 275,000 and saw his opponent shove all in for about 1.5 million more. Holding {A-Hearts}{Q-Hearts} for the straight and flush, Kelly called. His opponent tabled {A-Diamonds}{J-Diamonds}, leaving him no river in the deck that could save him.

JP Kelly   GB         3,923,000   1,763,000


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: MattyHollis on July 15, 2017, 09:32:38 AM
Ah nice one, pokernews chipcounts not the best.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 15, 2017, 09:48:01 AM
Lots of really good UK players left.  Good luck to them all.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 15, 2017, 12:38:11 PM
Added Ireland as well. Average stack 1,216,000. Blinds 10,000/20,000.

4 John Kelly BUCKS, , IT 3,973,000
5 Richard Gryko ROMFORD ESSEX, , GB 3,559,000
13 Paul Otto Edinburgh, , GB 2,801,100
19 Thissa Desilva LONDON, , GB 2,563,000
25 Paul Vas Nunes GUILDFORD, GB 2,440,000
36 Matthew Moss LONDON, GB 2,186,000
61 Artan Dedusha London, , GB 1,752,000
76 Charlie Carrel London, GB 1,598,000
85 Sergi Reixach Bournemouth, GB 1,529,000
88 Joel Ettedgi EDGWARE, ,  1,500,000
94 Eoghan O'Dea DUBLIN, IE 1,467,000
95 Jack Sinclair London, , GB 1,457,000
106 John Hesp Bridlington, GB 1,394,000
141 Tom Middleton SLIDSEN, GB 1,053,000
149 Max Silver LONDON, GB 1,000,000
152 Thomas Ward (SCO) GB 999,000
175 Guy Taylor Nassington, GB 826,000
176 Tobias Hariefeld London, GB 823,000
256 Robert Cowen Swansea, , GB 478,000
276 Daniel Rudd ESSEX, , GB 373,000
282 Andrew Grimason DUBLIN, , IE 310,000
284 Alistair Hill REDLAND BRISTOL, , GB 270,000


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 15, 2017, 06:08:35 PM
I'm rooting for John Hesp, who comes from Bridlington. LOVE that get up. Proper crucial, that, Paul Parker would be proud.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 15, 2017, 08:34:12 PM
250 remain


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 15, 2017, 09:51:14 PM
Will a past November miner make it to this final table?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Junior Senior on July 15, 2017, 10:30:27 PM
How much have Poker Go added to the prize pool for the privilege of seeing the player's cards?

The same amount as ESPN, who are also showing hole cards. Zilch, zero.

There is a 30 minute delay on Poker Go, same on ESPN when they are "live", to comply with Nevada State Gaming Regulations.

Meh.  You sign a disclaimer.  Maybe not everyone knows why; 1.01 Lisandro does. 

I would love to see a player revolt in one year where no one signs it so no one plays and there is no event. Maybe then players may get some reward for providing the entertainment. ESPN must make a fortune in advertising from screening this event. The players get none of it.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 15, 2017, 10:44:01 PM
How much have Poker Go added to the prize pool for the privilege of seeing the player's cards?

The same amount as ESPN, who are also showing hole cards. Zilch, zero.

There is a 30 minute delay on Poker Go, same on ESPN when they are "live", to comply with Nevada State Gaming Regulations.

Meh.  You sign a disclaimer.  Maybe not everyone knows why; 1.01 Lisandro does. 

I would love to see a player revolt in one year where no one signs it so no one plays and there is no event. Maybe then players may get some reward for providing the entertainment. ESPN must make a fortune in advertising from screening this event. The players get none of it.

It wouldn't even take *all* the players.

If the top 200 well known players refused to sign, Caesars would fold like a house of cards and add something to the prize pool.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2017, 08:53:11 AM
in the last level of play today

89 return to play one more hour at 30/60/10k. Damian Salas over 11m in chips.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE1kmn9UAAILWiz.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2017, 09:23:01 AM
Day 5 of the Main Event is in the books. 85 players return at 11am vegas time. Chip counts/table draw later


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 16, 2017, 10:21:17 AM
85 remaining. Payouts hit six figures at 72nd. Blinds 30k/60k. Average stack 4,248,000.

3 Max Silver LONDON, GB 8,665,000
16 Paul Vas Nunes GUILDFORD, GB 6,780,000
21 Richard Gryko ROMFORD ESSEX, , GB 5,835,000
37 Artan Dedusha London, , GB 4,330,000
40 John Hesp Bridlington, GB 4,060,000
64 Thissa Desilva LONDON, , GB 2,395,000
69 Jack Sinclair London, , GB 2,225,000


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
Robin Hegele leads final 85 players going into Day 6 of The Main Event Championship. Counts and table draws: http://bit.ly/2tWJSFC


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: celtic on July 16, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
Tikay's mate still in 👍🏿


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2017, 11:03:24 AM
Max Silver was a big mover on Day 5. His plan for Day 6? "Get more chips, don’t bust, don’t f*** it up.”

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2017/07/biggest-movers-day-5-wsop-main-event-28533.htm


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
interesting poker, no?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEzKAvTUMAApDbo.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 16, 2017, 11:44:17 AM
Just a great story.

https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/wsop-posthumous-gift-gives-five-friends-main-event-dream-593215/ (https://www.pocketfives.com/articles/wsop-posthumous-gift-gives-five-friends-main-event-dream-593215/)



For those following this.  I just checked the payouts and one of the five cashed for $15k.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on July 16, 2017, 11:56:22 AM
Go Pvas!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: FUN4FRASER on July 16, 2017, 02:28:56 PM
Go Pvas!

yeah good luck the Brits


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on July 16, 2017, 05:34:11 PM
Its on BTSport tonight, anyone know what the feature tables will be?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 16, 2017, 06:33:49 PM
Its on BTSport tonight, anyone know what the feature tables will be?

They are not usually disclosed in advance.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 16, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
Tikay's mate still in 👍🏿

He's famous now. ;)

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2017/07/john-hesp-poker-wsop-challenge-28526.htm


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2017, 06:38:38 PM
main feature is silver and Ben lamb
Its on BTSport tonight, anyone know what the feature tables will be?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2017, 07:07:40 PM
Today


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on July 16, 2017, 09:15:10 PM
Its on BTSport tonight, anyone know what the feature tables will be?

Max silver on the main feature table with Ben lamb 2nd feature table has sauot and ruane and halleart trying to make back to back final tables


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 16, 2017, 09:19:37 PM
67 left first break


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 16, 2017, 10:08:55 PM
Blimey, Hesp might a nice a guy.

But WTF is he doing showing his cards all the time. NO FREE INFORMATION!

It's like he's playing a tenner comp down at his local casino.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 16, 2017, 10:14:38 PM
Sorry, more like a freeroll at his local casino.

He's starting to tilt me. YOU ARE PLAYING FOR 8 MILLY MAN!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 16, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Now he's slowrolling the nicest guy in the field Kenny Hallaert.

Hesp is becoming my villain.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 17, 2017, 08:39:50 AM
Adrian Moreno takes down Event #74, $1,111 Little One for One Drop, for $528,316 and first gold bracelet. http://wsop.com/n/75q


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 17, 2017, 08:44:28 AM
Play has ended in the Main Event, 27 players return at 12pm vegas time

Play will resume with 1:18:00 in Level 32 (120,000/240,000/40,000)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 17, 2017, 08:56:37 AM
Average stack 13,370,000.

3 Jack Sinclair London, , GB 27,690,000
6 John Hesp Bridlington, GB 21,920,000
10 Richard Gryko ROMFORD ESSEX, , GB 13,840,000


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on July 17, 2017, 09:00:43 AM
Was Vegas successful for uk players ?
2 bracelets at wsop brammer n moorman
Any other good winners in some of the other big buys running in Vegas ?
Guy Taylor at the wynn
Pads at the aria after a tough start
Others ?????


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 17, 2017, 09:21:36 AM
Was Vegas successful for uk players ?
2 bracelets at wsop brammer n moorman
Any other good winners in some of the other big buys running in Vegas ?
Guy Taylor at the wynn
Pads at the aria after a tough start
Others ?????

What did Guy Taylor win?

Liv Boeree got a bracelet in the WSOP tag team thing.

Talal Shakirchi won 3 highrollers.

I hear Brits were crushing the O8 at the Golden Nugget. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on July 17, 2017, 09:37:10 AM
Was Vegas successful for uk players ?
2 bracelets at wsop brammer n moorman
Any other good winners in some of the other big buys running in Vegas ?
Guy Taylor at the wynn
Pads at the aria after a tough start
Others ?????

What did Guy Taylor win?

Liv Boeree got a bracelet in the WSOP tag team thing.

Talal Shakirchi won 3 highrollers.

I hear Brits were crushing the O8 at the Golden Nugget.  
[/quote

Still a chance of another bracelet yet too 😃


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: redsimon on July 17, 2017, 09:44:31 AM
Was Vegas successful for uk players ?
2 bracelets at wsop brammer n moorman
Any other good winners in some of the other big buys running in Vegas ?
Guy Taylor at the wynn
Pads at the aria after a tough start
Others ?????

Max Silver won a bracelet too


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 17, 2017, 09:56:24 AM
seat draw

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE7Ffn2U0AAXM8P.jpg)

10 Americans, 4 French, 3 Brits, 2 Canadians, 2 Argentians, 2 Germans, 1 Dutch, Czech, Russian and Portuguese


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on July 17, 2017, 09:56:40 AM
Guy Taylor won a $400 ? Wynn tourney
As to the others lol dementia is all I can say


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: cambridgealex on July 17, 2017, 10:52:23 AM
All of my closest 15-25 friends that went lost. Every single one of us. Utterly useless the lot of us :D


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on July 17, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
If you stayed at the rio they should have sent you something warning about 2 outbreaks of legionnaires disease !
My USA buddies have had one from our stay 29 th may to 6 th June !

I was too busy marching up n down the sand dunes at Cromer :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 17, 2017, 07:46:07 PM
Features tonight...


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: ambresolaire on July 17, 2017, 08:51:54 PM
seat draw

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE7Ffn2U0AAXM8P.jpg)

10 Americans, 4 French, 3 Brits, 2 Canadians, 2 Argentians, 2 Germans, 1 Dutch, Czech, Russian and Portuguese

What does the 'Rank' column mean here?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: titaniumbean on July 17, 2017, 08:54:48 PM
rank means nothing from what I can see it's layed out by table then seat number.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 17, 2017, 09:21:49 PM
Hesp is now chip leader. 

Got a lot of heart


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on July 17, 2017, 10:13:16 PM
Hesp is now chip leader. 

Got a lot of heart

Brits top 2 go go go


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 17, 2017, 11:58:35 PM
Gryko had tons of chips in the main event the year Jamie Gold won but bluffed them all away.

Seems intent on playing a lot tighter this time around.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 12:52:35 AM
Three Brit's on the same table after redraw with 18 left


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: baldock92 on July 18, 2017, 01:59:41 AM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 18, 2017, 07:07:14 AM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!

Sam Holden 2011 I think.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 18, 2017, 07:12:35 AM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!

No idea, but with 13 left, English players sit 1st & 2nd, assuming we count Bridlington as England.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 18, 2017, 07:18:19 AM

Was really hoping Richard Gryko was going to final & maybe win this, but his run ended in 18th place for $340,000.

Going to hope The Jacket wins now.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 18, 2017, 07:40:34 AM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!

Sam Holden 2011 I think.

Whatever happened to him?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 18, 2017, 08:18:33 AM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!

Sam Holden 2011 I think.

Whatever happened to him?

He quit poker to study philosophy.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 18, 2017, 08:21:17 AM
Apart from theczar, are any of those left big names in online poker?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 08:41:42 AM
A record 120,995 played 2017 WSOP bracelet events, winning a record $231,010,871. All the summer stats here: http://wsop.com/n/75o


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SolarCarro on July 18, 2017, 08:43:15 AM
I was in Vegas last November and played at Caesars with John Hesp's group from Brid, one of the guys (not John) had those coloured shirts, John has borrowed them for this event.

Real nice bunch of people, just fun recreational players, nice one JH


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 08:54:21 AM
Pedro Oliveira eliminated in 11th place, the final 10 are at the unofficial final table as seated below. Updates http://www.wsop.com/n/74x

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFADJuBVwAATxuG.jpg)

anyone know or know of Jack Sinclair?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 08:56:22 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAEgHDVYAAUCqW.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 08:58:08 AM
“I am to poker what Donald Trump is to politics – an amateur”

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2017/07/john-hesp-poker-wsop-challenge-28526.htm

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAF_w9V0AA_nkH.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 18, 2017, 09:48:43 AM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!


Sam Holden 2011 I think.

Whatever happened to him?

He quit poker to study philosophy.

Thanks.

Two Brits at the final table.

Tighty. Jack Sinclair supposedly plays a lot on line, but googling his online name is more difficult than I expected.  I don't think that many of the newer players bother with pocket 5s rankings etc.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
The Main Event final table is set, Scott Blumstein leads the final 9 players when play resumes Thursday at 5:30pm. http://www.wsop.com/n/74x

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAb8v2V0AEtXdR.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 09:58:41 AM
Jack Sinclair profile

https://uk.pokernews.com/tours/wsop/wsop-2017/event-73-main-event-world-championship/post.141505.htm

"Jack Sinclair might not be a familiar face to many of the players in the field, but if the people he hangs out with are any indication, his opponents should keep their guard up. This 26-year-old Brit has been playing professionally for two years and mainly cut his teeth online. He never really took to playing live and only started playing live tournaments at the prodding of his friends, Philipp Gruissem and Anton Morgenstern."


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 10:00:11 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAXs0wXsAAm50t.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Horneris on July 18, 2017, 10:03:11 AM
Come on Hesp!!!

Yorrrrrrrrrrrkshire


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 10:09:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAVZn1UIAAnBwI.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAValAVYAAELKg.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAVb7tV0AArnd-.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFAVYEtUAAAj5F4.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 18, 2017, 10:32:55 AM
Scott Blumstein @SBlum2711 ♦ 92,250,000 chips $312,142 Total Live Earnings

John Hesp ♦ 85,700,000 chips $2,207 Total Live Earnings

Benjamin Pollak @PollakB  ♦ 35,175,000 chips $2,967,782 Total Live Earnings

Bryan Piccioli @theczar19  ♦ 33,800,000 chips $1,909,374 Total Live Earnings

Dan Ott @danott11  ♦ 26,475,000 chips $3,656 Total Live Earnings

Damian Salas  ♦ 22,175,000 chips $919,525 Total Live Earnings

Antoine Saout @tonio292 ♦ 21,175,000 chips $5,551,412 Total Live Earnings

Jack Sinclair  ♦ 20,200,000 chips $13,500 Total Live Earnings

Ben Lamb @BenbaLamb  ♦ 18,050,000 chips $7,207,830 Total Live Earnings



4 main event first timers, two repeat main event final tablers

think it looks like a fun final table,a nice mix of stylesand characters


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: typhoon13 on July 18, 2017, 10:44:24 AM

Very good luck to John Hesp

Don't know the guy but would like him to take this down, what a story


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 18, 2017, 11:14:37 AM

Very good luck to John Hesp

Don't know the guy but would like him to take this down, what a story


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Woodsey on July 18, 2017, 11:52:25 AM
Good luck to the old boy, a mill in the bag with a chance to play for 8, what a life.....


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: nirvana on July 18, 2017, 12:21:41 PM
Good luck to the old boy, a mill in the bag with a chance to play for 8, what a life.....

Yep..great story and so much better for the game and people's view of Brits in general than last year's shenanigans


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Marky147 on July 18, 2017, 12:22:23 PM
Go on the jacket!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kp24 on July 18, 2017, 12:39:16 PM
Hope one of the Brits but it would be great if it was hesp reminds me a little of blumenfield a couple of years ago


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 18, 2017, 02:19:31 PM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!


Sam Holden 2011 I think.

Whatever happened to him?

He quit poker to study philosophy.

Thanks.

Two Brits at the final table.

Tighty. Jack Sinclair supposedly plays a lot on line, but googling his online name is more difficult than I expected.  I don't think that many of the newer players bother with pocket 5s rankings etc.

His online name can be seen from his Twitter feed.

He is @jacksincredible on Twitter, and his online alias can be seen in his last Tweet, dated 7th November 2016.


https://twitter.com/jacksincredible


https://www.instagram.com/p/BMg__4vDtq-/


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 18, 2017, 02:27:23 PM
Apart from theczar, are any of those left big names in online poker?

Antoine Saout?

Ben Pollak, who is, according to his Twitter profile, Betclic Ambassador.

Not sure either qualify as "big names" online.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: KarmaDope on July 18, 2017, 02:36:56 PM
Erm...Benba? Pretty big name...


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 18, 2017, 03:23:47 PM
Erm...Benba? Pretty big name...

More of a big name live, no?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: pvas2 on July 18, 2017, 06:48:29 PM
Jack was in the squash team at the University of Surrey with me. I didn't know him that well and we lost contact for about 5 years so it was a bit of a shock to run in to him at dtd and then in Vegas and the main. I can't believe I declined a swap at the end of day 5! It is a small world.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: FUN4FRASER on July 18, 2017, 08:08:19 PM
WSOP final table

Corals look like they have let the office junior price up

https://www.oddschecker.com/poker/world-series-of-poker/winner?selectionName=ben-lamb

History has taught us unpredictable results so 33-1  Ott and 25-1 Sinclair is way too big

Sinclair has got the game and balls to win it , one double up & back in it


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 18, 2017, 08:22:51 PM
WSOP final table

Corals look like they have let the office junior price up

https://www.oddschecker.com/poker/world-series-of-poker/winner?selectionName=ben-lamb

History has taught us unpredictable results so 33-1  Ott and 25-1 Sinclair is way too big

Sinclair has got the game and balls to win it , one double up & back in it

Got to agree on this.  Sure they get more on a chip chop though haven't calculated it.  I have backed them both just now.   If Blumstein is 2/1 then they should both be about 10/1.  Obv 2/1 looks skinny, but that doesn't make that 10/1 equal to 25/1 or 33/1.   I haven't seen either play, just followed the updates, so haven't made a view on their play.

Tournament is weird though.  Lots of big pay jumps and laddering very valuable.  The bottom 4 or 5 could just blind away if they aren't careful.  They must start on 20 bigs or less.  Think 20 million was 20 bigs last night. 

Will certainly second Fraser if thread wants a bet.



Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 18, 2017, 08:23:08 PM
WSOP final table

Corals look like they have let the office junior price up

https://www.oddschecker.com/poker/world-series-of-poker/winner?selectionName=ben-lamb

History has taught us unpredictable results so 33-1  Ott and 25-1 Sinclair is way too big

Sinclair has got the game and balls to win it , one double up & back in it

Nice find Raver, I've had a cheeky bet on both.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Eagle3001 on July 18, 2017, 09:21:24 PM
Jack was in the squash team at the University of Surrey with me. I didn't know him that well and we lost contact for about 5 years so it was a bit of a shock to run in to him at dtd and then in Vegas and the main. I can't believe I declined a swap at the end of day 5! It is a small world.

Nice run yourself Paul. VWP.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: bergeroo on July 18, 2017, 11:08:48 PM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!


Sam Holden 2011 I think.

Whatever happened to him?

He quit poker to study philosophy.

Thanks.

Two Brits at the final table.

Tighty. Jack Sinclair supposedly plays a lot on line, but googling his online name is more difficult than I expected.  I don't think that many of the newer players bother with pocket 5s rankings etc.

I believe this is him on P5S:

https://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/swaggersorus/ (https://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/swaggersorus/)

Garry Breenstein is an absolutely genius screen name!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 19, 2017, 03:03:57 PM
this is quite interesting

Polk goes through big hands from day 6

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noPE268DeQQ


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Jamier-Host on July 19, 2017, 07:11:21 PM
Didn't realise final table wasn't on Poker Go.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: redsimon on July 19, 2017, 09:22:51 PM
Didn't realise final table wasn't on Poker Go.

Hoping its all on BT Sports as the chopping to PokerGo is irritating for us tightwads who just have BTSports :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 10:18:01 PM
For those who have had a bet.

Jack Sinclair is on Joey Ingram's podcast.  It was on live and has just finished.  No idea what it is like, just switched on.
   
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsmA6_5-8tE


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: DungBeetle on July 19, 2017, 10:32:09 PM
When was the last time a Brit made the final table? Can't seem to remember it happening for a few years. GL all Brits left!


Sam Holden 2011 I think.

Whatever happened to him?

He quit poker to study philosophy.

Thanks.

Two Brits at the final table.

Tighty. Jack Sinclair supposedly plays a lot on line, but googling his online name is more difficult than I expected.  I don't think that many of the newer players bother with pocket 5s rankings etc.

I believe this is him on P5S:

https://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/swaggersorus/ (https://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/swaggersorus/)

Garry Breenstein is an absolutely genius screen name!

Reminds me of the superinjunction when people referred to Bareth Garry.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 19, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
this is quite interesting

Polk goes through big hands from day 6

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noPE268DeQQ

It's so weird, Polk has every single one of the characteristics I usually dislike intensely in people.

Yet, somehow, for some reason, I like him.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 19, 2017, 11:27:33 PM
For those who have had a bet.

Jack Sinclair is on Joey Ingram's podcast.  It was on live and has just finished.  No idea what it is like, just switched on.
   
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsmA6_5-8tE

Quite interesting.  He seems pretty aggro.  Think we get a run for our money, but should be favourite for 9th!   


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 20, 2017, 08:45:55 AM
Final table biographies

The Main Event final table starts tomorrow! Watch at 6:00 PT on ESPN2.

More on the final table players: http://www.wsop.com/2017/final-table/


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: FUN4FRASER on July 20, 2017, 11:25:50 AM
this is quite interesting

Polk goes through big hands from day 6

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noPE268DeQQ

It's so weird, Polk has every single one of the characteristics I usually dislike intensely in people.

Yet, somehow, for some reason, I like him.

Does he vote Tory  ?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 20, 2017, 11:27:22 AM
its Made the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-40659199#


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 20, 2017, 11:38:17 AM
its Made the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-40659199#

If he can somehow pull off a big result, it'll be mainstream all the way, & UK poker will be in for a nice boost.

Think of the age demographic, all those wrinklies with a stack of disposable income going on Saga Poker Cruises & the like.

"Seniors" Events in the WSOP & other Vegas rooms are a huge draw, but we don't even have them here. Yet.

The future is bright, the future is jacket. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: DaveShoelace on July 20, 2017, 11:41:14 AM
its Made the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-40659199#

If he can somehow pull off a big result, it'll be mainstream all the way, & UK poker will be in for a nice boost.

Think of the age demographic, all those wrinklies with a stack of disposable income going on Saga Poker Cruises & the like.

"Seniors" Events in the WSOP & other Vegas rooms are a huge draw, but we don't even have them here. Yet.

The future is bright, the future is jacket. 

You must getting moist at the prospect, as UK Poker's ultimate luvvie and leading....person of advancing years :)

Don't ban me


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: FUN4FRASER on July 20, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
its Made the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-40659199#

1.01 Helmuth trying to muscle in on a" coaching fee "


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: 4KSuited on July 21, 2017, 12:20:31 AM
its Made the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-40659199#

He was on the phone from Vegas to 5Live at 10:30pm our time. He seems to have been totally dazzled by the media glare, having spent breaks in play doing interviews with the world's media, but still determined to "just be myself". Apparently he's also trying to convince the WSOP to stage an event in Hull; good luck with that.

With the CL on his immediate left, he might find the game a little more challenging today.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2017, 01:13:21 AM
its Made the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-40659199#

1.01 Helmuth trying to muscle in on a" coaching fee "

I watched the WSOP final table preview with Kara Scott, PH and Polk on BT sport earlier. PH is cringeworthy in his name dropping about going out for dinner last night with the Hull legend at least 3 times.  Name dropping the Aria constantly as well about one of the other final table guys constantly playing for millions in their high stakes cash games.  Apart from that it was a really enjoyable hour preview show.  Kara is perfect for the gig and Polk came across really well imo without sounded like an online nerd.  PH needs to realise the game has passed him by and move on especially from a TV pundit angle.  Like watching Alan Shearer on MOTD.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2017, 02:10:21 AM
what an awesome first hand!!!!!!!  Kick on Hull's finest.  Then 3 bets QQ the very next hand.  How does he get no action there?

Imagine how many people are going to Nap's Hull on Sunday for the £10 rebuy when he gets home!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Rotty on July 21, 2017, 02:28:07 AM
Good fun so far but maybe he needs to calm down a little, just a little though :)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2017, 02:29:23 AM
Good fun so far but maybe he needs to calm down a little, just a little though :)

He is shaking like a leaf every time he stacks up chips or bets.  Awesome to see.  Wonder how rich he is in real life?  He could easily be a paper millionaire and this wouldn't make much difference to him.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Rotty on July 21, 2017, 02:31:23 AM
doubt he's hard up but he doesn't seem the type that's that bothered by money


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2017, 02:44:49 AM
doubt he's hard up but he doesn't seem the type that's that bothered by money

He is set for life in Hull with $1.2m anyway now even if he is skint.  I get the feeling he is probably a multi paper millionaire anyway.  He looks like he couldn't care less whether he comes first or last.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2017, 02:56:00 AM
Not sure he is easy to read even though he is giving off loads of info showing his hands.  He looks nervous as hell every hand whether he has it or not. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Rotty on July 21, 2017, 02:59:21 AM
Getting some hands though


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2017, 03:01:05 AM
His chat is amazing with a pair of 4's.  'It's all in or fold'!!!!!!!  He is so off the cuff the online kids haven't got a clue what's going on.  Please win sir.  Biggest loser is Kassoff surely if he wins.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: vegaslover on July 21, 2017, 03:26:49 AM
Just from reading the wsop updates he's dominating them all.
If it was one of the young online pro's, updaters would be banging on how good he was playing


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2017, 03:42:52 AM
Just from reading the wsop updates he's dominating them all.
If it was one of the young online pro's, updaters would be banging on how good he was playing

Agreed.  Wish he had re raised the river there i don't think the calling station could have folded ak there the way he played the hand.  He could have had a dominant chip lead there.  Tikay is surely back playing hold em next month with his purple jacket on.  2017 is the year of the jacket.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2017, 03:55:59 AM
That sllows down the 2nd stack now.  He found qq and 4 bet but the fat yank isn't going to bein a rush now to 3 bet him light given how far clear in 2nd he is.  Hesp could put him all in and lose now and still be 2nd in chips if he lost!  Short stack doubling is perfect for Hesp as well.  The guy is bringing this home.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Ransom on July 21, 2017, 05:11:11 AM
Absolutely loving John Hesp.

Such a fun final table with him there, even a couple of them are on the beer while playing.

I hope he does it and ushers in a new era where people can actually have a laugh at a poker table instead of being sat there silently looking like they've just smelt a fart.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Ironside on July 21, 2017, 05:46:45 AM
Horrid cold deck there


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Ransom on July 21, 2017, 05:48:31 AM
SPOILER BELOW FOR THOSE CATCHING UP TOMORROW

-----------------------------------













Awful hand for Hesp.

Blumstien opens to 2.3 with   Ad Aspades
Hesp defends BB with  Ahrt Th

Flop A57.

Check / Check

Turn T

Blumstein bets ~3m.
Hesp raise to 7m.
Blumstien raise to 17m.
Hesp All in for 73m effective.

All she wrote.

Left with 23m. Clock striking midnight on the Cinderella Story, I think he just punts it now.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 21, 2017, 05:50:18 AM

Lordy, I really am King Bok.

Got up at 5am to watch it and The Jacket was running away with it with 135 Bigs.

40 minutes later and he has lost every hand he has played, and he is down to about 25 Bigs.

The big hand was a bit of a cooler to be fair, top two v top set. (A-10 v A-A-A).

Blumstein now monster chippy.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 21, 2017, 08:09:14 AM
Day 1 of the Main Event is in the books and Scott Blumstein (@SBlum2711) has taken a huge lead. http://wsop.com/n/75w

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFPQpU6VoAMwYdl.jpg)

Play ends for the night with 7 players, resumes at 5:30pm Friday

Blumstein 178m
Pollak 78m
Piccioli 36m
Hesp 22m
Ott 16m
Salas 16m
Saout 15m

with all its imperfections and questionable play i thought last night was far more entertaining than a november final table where everyone has been coached for three months and played/tried to play optimal stuff


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 21, 2017, 08:34:52 AM
Day 1 of the Main Event is in the books and Scott Blumstein (@SBlum2711) has taken a huge lead. http://wsop.com/n/75w

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFPQpU6VoAMwYdl.jpg)

Play ends for the night with 7 players, resumes at 5:30pm Friday

Blumstein 178m
Pollak 78m
Piccioli 36m
Hesp 22m
Ott 16m
Salas 16m
Saout 15m

with all its imperfections and questionable play i thought last night was far more entertaining than a november final table where everyone has been coached for three months and played/tried to play optimal stuff

Absolutely agree with that.

Poker might just have temporarily changed for the better as a result of what we have seen so far.

We all know the arguments for & against "showing" cards & giving free info, but Hesp had them all doing it.

And most of them were not taking themselves too seriously. Folks smiling & chatting, outrageous. I suppose the standard of play will be mocked, but no matter.

Like it or loathe it, it's a million miles from the Kassouf style stuff.  

I would definitely watch & play more poker if it were like that more often.

Personally, I think Pollak is playing the best poker, & he seems a decent sort, apart from bring a Frenchie. He & Blumstein have all the chips, & I think both would make "good" winners.

Will deffo watch tonight & the last day.

Numbers up again next year? Oh yes.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Ironside on July 21, 2017, 10:48:00 AM
Anyone notice the hand Sinclair busted Ott was really hating his folding of the AJs  just so happens he would now be sitting pretty with 2nd biggest stack if he had donkey called with the 3rd heart on the river


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Ransom on July 21, 2017, 10:58:50 AM
Anyone notice the hand Sinclair busted Ott was really hating his folding of the AJs  just so happens he would now be sitting pretty with 2nd biggest stack if he had donkey called with the 3rd heart on the river

Ott will forever have a case of the "If Only's" should he not win.

You know what they say though.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VNFi1DLGHE


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Rotty on July 21, 2017, 12:04:45 PM


Personally, I think Pollak is playing the best poker, & he seems a decent sort, apart from bring a Frenchie.

(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder691/35190691.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: ABO151 on July 21, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
Anyone notice the hand Sinclair busted Ott was really hating his folding of the AJs  just so happens he would now be sitting pretty with 2nd biggest stack if he had donkey called with the 3rd heart on the river

Ott will forever have a case of the "If Only's" should he not win.

You know what they say though.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VNFi1DLGHE
That actually looks like Brent with Pollak....


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: ABO151 on July 21, 2017, 12:50:16 PM
Anyone notice the hand Sinclair busted Ott was really hating his folding of the AJs  just so happens he would now be sitting pretty with 2nd biggest stack if he had donkey called with the 3rd heart on the river
Yeah I noticed immediately- if Sinclair had passed then its not beyond realms that Ott rejams with aj hearts (although still unlikely given Salas would open at and given how tight guy with aces was playing) and then would have sucked out on the aces - it's the pots you avoid losing (albeit would have been ridiculous beat in this case) that are just as key as those you win if you're to go on to win


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: ABO151 on July 21, 2017, 12:56:26 PM
Horrid cold deck there
Elephant in room surely is that Hesp has to get away from pot once he gets re-raised on turn given how table had played until then - Hesp got too excited and I feared for him as soon as he did his "oh dear " strength tell - Pollak and chipleader found exactly the spots they were seeking and that Negrano pointed out in break - still he didn't go broke (despite the weak and weird play with queens versus 7s) so where there's life there's hope so Hesp may still make final day - personally think Pollak will win this and he's due too but no getting away from the Hesp factor!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Ransom on July 21, 2017, 07:19:58 PM
You know I can't bloody wait for this next night of the final.

This final table has rekindled me. Just people having a laugh and playing cards for loads of money.

I'm ordering a pizza and doing a night shift.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: DropTheHammer on July 21, 2017, 07:31:05 PM
What time does it restart tonight, U.K.?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Rotty on July 21, 2017, 08:44:19 PM
2am


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: aaron1867 on July 22, 2017, 12:23:33 AM
Anyone have any links to a stream? Thanks


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Rotty on July 22, 2017, 02:09:26 AM
supposed to be on BT from 2am but no sign of it


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Rotty on July 22, 2017, 02:10:38 AM
just starting

would be ****ed off if I had paid for poker go and you can't watch FT


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Mohican on July 22, 2017, 03:31:32 AM
supposed to be on BT from 2am but no sign of it
Btsport/ESPN is where it's at.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: baldock92 on July 22, 2017, 06:46:51 AM
Anyone notice the hand Sinclair busted Ott was really hating his folding of the AJs  just so happens he would now be sitting pretty with 2nd biggest stack if he had donkey called with the 3rd heart on the river
Yeah I noticed immediately- if Sinclair had passed then its not beyond realms that Ott rejams with aj hearts (although still unlikely given Salas would open at and given how tight guy with aces was playing) and then would have sucked out on the aces - it's the pots you avoid losing (albeit would have been ridiculous beat in this case) that are just as key as those you win if you're to go on to win

Bloody hell, must have spent 10 minutes trying to figure out what "ott" could stand for. Had no idea it was a surname.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: FUN4FRASER on July 22, 2017, 08:05:22 AM
   WSOP   final table  Chips........3 left


1   Scott Blumstein   226,450,000
2   Dan Ott               88,375,000
3   Benjamin Pollak   45,850,000

 33-1 sweat for some with Ott....game on


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 22, 2017, 08:21:49 AM
   WSOP   final table  Chips........3 left


1   Scott Blumstein   226,450,000
2   Dan Ott               88,375,000
3   Benjamin Pollak   45,850,000

 33-1 sweat for some with Ott....game on

To give that some context, blinds are 1,000,000-2,000,000 with a 300,000 Running Ante.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 22, 2017, 08:29:13 AM
John Hesp shoves with 9-7, Benjamin Pollak moves all in with A-J. Board runs out K-T-6-4-4, Hesp earns $2.6M and plays ends for the night

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFUO0yqVYAAQA3k.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 22, 2017, 08:29:51 AM
Day 2 of the Main Event final table is complete. Three players remain. Read about Friday's action at http://wsop.com/n/75x


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 22, 2017, 08:30:23 AM
Then there were 3. Congrats to @SBlum2711 @PollakB and Dan Ott. Play resumes 5:30pm Vegas time Saturday. $8.15 million to winner.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFUNZCsUwAQlZGO.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: ABO151 on July 22, 2017, 10:32:39 AM
John Hesp shoves with 9-7, Benjamin Pollak moves all in with A-J. Board runs out K-T-6-4-4, Hesp earns $2.6M and plays ends for the night

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFUO0yqVYAAQA3k.jpg)
Watched it all and to be fair very few if any miss steps from Hesp today and laddered well. GG sir!


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: EvilPie on July 22, 2017, 10:34:25 AM
   WSOP   final table  Chips........3 left


1   Scott Blumstein   226,450,000
2   Dan Ott               88,375,000
3   Benjamin Pollak   45,850,000

 33-1 sweat for some with Ott....game on

To give that some context, blinds are 1,000,000-2,000,000 with a 300,000 Running Ante.

Bit like a level one at DTD.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Woodsey on July 22, 2017, 12:21:36 PM
$2.6 mill, good on him, that would deffo result in a resignation letter to my boss....


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Woodsey on July 22, 2017, 02:31:00 PM
Currently most popular article on BBC news app...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-40691415


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: neeko on July 22, 2017, 06:07:50 PM
Love that he has his own Bridlington Caravans patch on.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Jamier-Host on July 22, 2017, 08:01:17 PM
just starting

would be ****ed off if I had paid for poker go and you can't watch FT

In that boat :(


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Woodsey on July 22, 2017, 10:09:27 PM
On news at 10 right now....was the 'and finally' story.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 23, 2017, 08:41:17 AM
Scott Blumstein is the 2017 WSOP Main Event Champion, winning $8,150,000!

a long heads up against Ott has just concluded


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 23, 2017, 09:20:45 AM
Scott Blumstein is poker's latest World Champion! He won $8m and the WSOP Main Event bracelet Read more http://wsop.com/n/75y

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFZ9ZlIW0AAQP7l.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 23, 2017, 09:55:04 AM
.....

can but smile....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFX4pVdXcAAcn7k.jpg)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 23, 2017, 10:23:05 AM
.....

can but smile....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFX4pVdXcAAcn7k.jpg)

Hesp's hendonmob shows how ridiculous the Global Poker Index is.

Ten wins in the Sunday rebuy at Naps in Hull is equal to coming fourth in the biggest tournament of the year.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 23, 2017, 11:19:17 AM
   WSOP   final table  Chips........3 left


1   Scott Blumstein   226,450,000
2   Dan Ott               88,375,000
3   Benjamin Pollak   45,850,000

 33-1 sweat for some with Ott....game on

To give that some context, blinds are 1,000,000-2,000,000 with a 300,000 Running Ante.

Bit like a level one at DTD.


made me lol


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 23, 2017, 11:20:18 AM
only £725 for winning a £10 rebuy these days?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 23, 2017, 11:21:59 AM
.....

can but smile....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFX4pVdXcAAcn7k.jpg)

Hesp's hendonmob shows how ridiculous the Global Poker Index is.

Ten wins in the Sunday rebuy at Naps in Hull is equal to coming fourth in the biggest tournament of the year.

Daniel Negreanu in the house.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: FUN4FRASER on July 23, 2017, 01:09:16 PM
   WSOP   final table  Chips........3 left


1   Scott Blumstein   226,450,000
2   Dan Ott               88,375,000
3   Benjamin Pollak   45,850,000

 33-1 sweat for some with Ott....game on

To give that some context, blinds are 1,000,000-2,000,000 with a 300,000 Running Ante.

Bit like a level one at DTD.


made me lol

felt like a level


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Ledders on July 23, 2017, 02:13:36 PM
He did have the summer form figures with 13 in June. Should've seen it coming


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 24, 2017, 07:24:18 AM

A random & probably junior journo at Poker Strategy published a really interesting piece this morning.

The numbers below are what the Finalists won, & how much they were left with after tax. So, for example, the winner "won" $8.15 milly, but after tax he will be left with $4.31 milly.





1st Scott Blumstein $8,150,000       $4,310,571
2nd Dan Ott $4,700,000                 $2,600,194
3rd Benjamin Pollak $3,500,000      $3,500,000
4th John Hesp  $2,600,000            $2,600,000
5th Antoine Saout  $2,000,000       $2,000,000
6th Bryan Piccioli $1,675,000         $791,023
7th Damian Salas $1,425,000         $997,500
8th Jack Sinclair $1,200,000         $1,200,000
9th Ben Lamb $1,000,000             $591,517



You can see the full article here;


https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/The-WSOP-Main-Event-final-table-payouts-after-taxes_101565/


Well worth a look.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 24, 2017, 07:28:14 AM

As a matter of interest, how does that ^^^^ affect the staking market?

If, say, an American purchased a 10% stake in the winner, how much would he get back? (Assume the buyer lived in the same State & was subject to the same tax regime).

And how does this affect the mark up? If (say) Blumstein sold at 1.2%, what rate is that after allowing for the tax "lost"?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Ledders on July 24, 2017, 07:43:48 AM
All investors would have to fill in their own tax form so the player only gets taxed on the % he had of himself. Investors then have their own tax obligations

It's definitely something to consider if you're from a taxable country when investing, most probably don't however.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 24, 2017, 07:52:56 AM
All investors would have to fill in their own tax form so the player only gets taxed on the % he had of himself. Investors then have their own tax obligations

It's definitely something to consider if you're from a taxable country when investing, most probably don't however.

Thank you. This is all rather intriguing.

Assume the winner had sold, say, 50% of himself to 5 different buyers. (10% each). How does he go about proving that to the Tax authorities?

I mean, certainly in my limited experience, when we buy or sell action there is never a formal contract, it's usually just a Forum Staking Thread or a Facebook post, or an informal arrangement. ("Tom, wanna swap 5%?" sorta thing). Hardly adequate to convince the Tax authorities, is it?

If I were Blumstein & I had all of myself, it would be in my interest to claim I had sold a lot of myself, would it not? So how do both parties go about proving that?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 24, 2017, 09:01:57 AM
Interestingly, the final 5 here lost ~$5.95m to taxes because of the order they finished in. Had Blumstein and Ott finished in 4th and 5th though, would have been less than $2m taken...

Probably could have very easily been organised so Blumstein could finish 5th and make more money than winning it


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 24, 2017, 09:14:23 AM
It's a massive bargaining chip for us, if we are doing a deal at the final table.

We say we'll take official first place, but split the money, means Americans can save a fortune in tax.

Anyone know if leaving the EU will affect our tax treaty with the USA?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 24, 2017, 09:16:05 AM
Just realised, even after split they still need to pay taxes anyway!

But anyway, it's fucked up.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 24, 2017, 09:26:48 AM
All investors would have to fill in their own tax form so the player only gets taxed on the % he had of himself. Investors then have their own tax obligations

It's definitely something to consider if you're from a taxable country when investing, most probably don't however.

Thank you. This is all rather intriguing.

Assume the winner had sold, say, 50% of himself to 5 different buyers. (10% each). How does he go about proving that to the Tax authorities?

I mean, certainly in my limited experience, when we buy or sell action there is never a formal contract, it's usually just a Forum Staking Thread or a Facebook post, or an informal arrangement. ("Tom, wanna swap 5%?" sorta thing). Hardly adequate to convince the Tax authorities, is it?

If I were Blumstein & I had all of myself, it would be in my interest to claim I had sold a lot of myself, would it not? So how do both parties go about proving that?

It is like all other declarations you fill in on a tax form.  In the UK you can be subject to a tax inspection.  I assume the same applies in the US.  You would have to provide proof you paid the people their money.  It is probably better to pay people bank transfers rather than cash if you win big and are subject to tax? 

Because of staking, there is no way that table is accurate. 

FWIW In a recent tournament I played, somebody deliberately gave us more to keep himself under 5k.  If you win over 5k, you can be subject to tax, witholding etc. 


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 24, 2017, 10:31:27 AM
Exactly what type of Tax is it? Income tax or capital gains?

If he invests in some businesses, buys some real estate, makes some loans etc is that all deductable?

Obviously fake losing as much money as possible at gambling! Can play all high rollers etc as you're basically only putting up 60% of the buyin.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: lucky_scrote on July 24, 2017, 10:57:03 AM

It is like all other declarations you fill in on a tax form.  In the UK you can be subject to a tax inspection.  I assume the same applies in the US.  You would have to provide proof you paid the people their money.  It is probably better to pay people bank transfers rather than cash if you win big and are subject to tax? 

Because of staking, there is no way that table is accurate. 

FWIW In a recent tournament I played, somebody deliberately gave us more to keep himself under 5k.  If you win over 5k, you can be subject to tax, witholding etc. 

It's gambling tax, a lot of countries have it. Exactly how you have to pay it differs. For example in the Netherlands you have to pay 29% a month on net winnings over about €430.

Exactly what type of Tax is it? Income tax or capital gains?

If he invests in some businesses, buys some real estate, makes some loans etc is that all deductable?

Obviously fake losing as much money as possible at gambling! Can play all high rollers etc as you're basically only putting up 60% of the buyin.

It's gambling tax most places and for countries that see it as a profession (USA) it's income tax I think. You can deduct expenses.

Yes, obviously "lose" as much as you can. Tourney grinders seem to dump thousands every month in cash games....


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 24, 2017, 11:18:39 AM
Exactly what type of Tax is it? Income tax or capital gains?

If he invests in some businesses, buys some real estate, makes some loans etc is that all deductable?

Obviously fake losing as much money as possible at gambling! Can play all high rollers etc as you're basically only putting up 60% of the buyin.

You only get 60% of the winnings back, so playing high rollers is now no different to us playing them except your buy in is effectively 40% smaller. 

Deliberately losing in them would be crazy in this situation.   Say you are play a 100k highroller to save 40k tax.  If you deliberately lose,  you are now 60k worse off and not 40k better off.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: FUN4FRASER on July 24, 2017, 01:17:56 PM

A random & probably junior journo at Poker Strategy published a really interesting piece this morning.

The numbers below are what the Finalists won, & how much they were left with after tax. So, for example, the winner "won" $8.15 milly, but after tax he will be left with $4.31 milly.





1st Scott Blumstein $8,150,000       $4,310,571
2nd Dan Ott $4,700,000                 $2,600,194
3rd Benjamin Pollak $3,500,000      $3,500,000
4th John Hesp  $2,600,000            $2,600,000
5th Antoine Saout  $2,000,000       $2,000,000
6th Bryan Piccioli $1,675,000         $791,023
7th Damian Salas $1,425,000         $997,500
8th Jack Sinclair $1,200,000         $1,200,000
9th Ben Lamb $1,000,000             $591,517



You can see the full article here;


https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/The-WSOP-Main-Event-final-table-payouts-after-taxes_101565/


Well worth a look.


We were on Deadmans rail in 2015 and I was speaking  to Shaun Deeb in length about the taxes and although he agreed they were ridiculous he told me its not as black and white as published figures make out because you only pay on declared profits over the year , so proof of buy ins , overheads , swops etc are all declared  for the year and a net adjustment is made to the tax man which varies in every American state . Kelly Saxby informs me even though she has been in England 11 years she still has to pay her tax in the U s on any UK poker profits plus UK takes on her business which makes the game unbeatable


Personally I find it incredible that The Americans  and other taxed nations continue to pay these ridiculous amounts  I certainly wouldn't play The WSOP unless all winnings were retained as its already  a tough gig to win The Yankee Dollar.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: The Camel on July 24, 2017, 02:12:46 PM
Exactly what type of Tax is it? Income tax or capital gains?

If he invests in some businesses, buys some real estate, makes some loans etc is that all deductable?

Obviously fake losing as much money as possible at gambling! Can play all high rollers etc as you're basically only putting up 60% of the buyin.

You only get 60% of the winnings back, so playing high rollers is now no different to us playing them except your buy in is effectively 40% smaller. 

Deliberately losing in them would be crazy in this situation.   Say you are play a 100k highroller to save 40k tax.  If you deliberately lose,  you are now 60k worse off and not 40k better off.

Lose 100k headup cash to a Brit.

He gives you $95k back. American saves 35k?

Win/win?


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Boba Fett on July 24, 2017, 03:23:40 PM
win/win until you get audited by the IRS


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 24, 2017, 07:16:41 PM
Exactly what type of Tax is it? Income tax or capital gains?

If he invests in some businesses, buys some real estate, makes some loans etc is that all deductable?

Obviously fake losing as much money as possible at gambling! Can play all high rollers etc as you're basically only putting up 60% of the buyin.

You only get 60% of the winnings back, so playing high rollers is now no different to us playing them except your buy in is effectively 40% smaller. 

Deliberately losing in them would be crazy in this situation.   Say you are play a 100k highroller to save 40k tax.  If you deliberately lose,  you are now 60k worse off and not 40k better off.

Obviously.

I meant, pretend to sell 80% of yourself in a $100k. You can make text messaged etc.

If you pay ~8% of the winnings in tax, if you lose you only actually put up 60% of the buyin.

OR. You could actually sell 60% of yourself @ spot and do no tax fiddling, and you're on a 24% freeroll. (obviously you would refrain from mentioning the % you sold if you bricked)


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 24, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Exactly what type of Tax is it? Income tax or capital gains?

If he invests in some businesses, buys some real estate, makes some loans etc is that all deductable?

Obviously fake losing as much money as possible at gambling! Can play all high rollers etc as you're basically only putting up 60% of the buyin.

You only get 60% of the winnings back, so playing high rollers is now no different to us playing them except your buy in is effectively 40% smaller. 

Deliberately losing in them would be crazy in this situation.   Say you are play a 100k highroller to save 40k tax.  If you deliberately lose,  you are now 60k worse off and not 40k better off.

Obviously.

I meant, pretend to sell 80% of yourself in a $100k. You can make text messaged etc.

If you pay ~8% of the winnings in tax, if you lose you only actually put up 60% of the buyin.

OR. You could actually sell 60% of yourself @ spot and do no tax fiddling, and you're on a 24% freeroll. (obviously you would refrain from mentioning the % you sold if you bricked)

Well, obviously people can dodge taxes, fake receipts, staking etc.

But if you get audited/inspected, you have to find people who you can prove recieved money and have paid the tax.  It is my understanding that you have to name all these people who got paid on your return.  So then you are exposing them to the risk they are liable to tax, could be charged with fraud and so on.

I assume if you try and avoid paying taxes on 6 or 7 figures, there is a non zero chance you end up in prison. 

I don't work for the IRS, but a poker player who has supposedly managed to spew a few million would be pretty suspicious.  Presumably you'd reach the end of the year and whenever you won, you'd be staked and whenever you lost, not so.  Then you'd have big cash transactions with the same people when you weren't staked.   

You have just won millions, why are you trying to screw your life up.





Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: 4KSuited on July 24, 2017, 09:34:01 PM

A random & probably junior journo at Poker Strategy published a really interesting piece this morning.

The numbers below are what the Finalists won, & how much they were left with after tax. So, for example, the winner "won" $8.15 milly, but after tax he will be left with $4.31 milly.





1st Scott Blumstein $8,150,000       $4,310,571
2nd Dan Ott $4,700,000                 $2,600,194
3rd Benjamin Pollak $3,500,000      $3,500,000
4th John Hesp  $2,600,000            $2,600,000
5th Antoine Saout  $2,000,000       $2,000,000
6th Bryan Piccioli $1,675,000         $791,023
7th Damian Salas $1,425,000         $997,500
8th Jack Sinclair $1,200,000         $1,200,000
9th Ben Lamb $1,000,000             $591,517



You can see the full article here;


https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/The-WSOP-Main-Event-final-table-payouts-after-taxes_101565/


Well worth a look.


Surely all Corbyn-voting-UK residents will be self declaring in order to pay tax & NIC since it's their moral responsibility to do so?

A bit hypocritical to do anything else, really.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: kukushkin88 on July 24, 2017, 09:43:14 PM

A random & probably junior journo at Poker Strategy published a really interesting piece this morning.

The numbers below are what the Finalists won, & how much they were left with after tax. So, for example, the winner "won" $8.15 milly, but after tax he will be left with $4.31 milly.





1st Scott Blumstein $8,150,000       $4,310,571
2nd Dan Ott $4,700,000                 $2,600,194
3rd Benjamin Pollak $3,500,000      $3,500,000
4th John Hesp  $2,600,000            $2,600,000
5th Antoine Saout  $2,000,000       $2,000,000
6th Bryan Piccioli $1,675,000         $791,023
7th Damian Salas $1,425,000         $997,500
8th Jack Sinclair $1,200,000         $1,200,000
9th Ben Lamb $1,000,000             $591,517



You can see the full article here;


https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/The-WSOP-Main-Event-final-table-payouts-after-taxes_101565/


Well worth a look.


Surely all Corbyn-voting-UK residents will be self declaring in order to pay tax & NIC since it's their moral responsibility to do so?

A bit hypocritical to do anything else, really.

Maybe you could explain this one? People should pay tax on something that isn't taxable or they're hypocrites? yba


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 25, 2017, 09:55:42 AM
Remko Rinkema on BBC World News last night to talk about John Hesp and the WSOP Main Event.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6DJ5GtLIp8


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: TightEnd on July 25, 2017, 04:19:46 PM
Jeff Kimber talking Hesp/WSOP on talksport last night

https://soundcloud.com/jeff-kimber-85173010/jeff-kimber


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: NigDawG on July 26, 2017, 12:32:58 PM
Remko Rinkema on BBC World News last night to talk about John Hesp and the WSOP Main Event.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6DJ5GtLIp8

classic video of blackjack alongside his interview there. thought Remko answered well


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Doobs on July 26, 2017, 12:41:36 PM
Even my mum mentioned John Hesp unprompted last night.  One of the neighbours talked about him too.  The big test is if the wife mentions him and even Hesp has failed to manage that.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on July 26, 2017, 02:41:34 PM
How much rake did hurrahs take at the wsop ??
Is that even mentioned anywhere ?
Mind boggling no doubt


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: Longines on July 26, 2017, 04:15:04 PM
How much rake did hurrahs take at the wsop ??
Is that even mentioned anywhere ?
Mind boggling no doubt

Very bored, took about 30 minutes.

$19.63m rake over 74 events.

Average rake 8.5%

Lowest %: $111,111 One Drop @ 1.5%
Highest %: $365 Giant @ 21.7%

4 tournaments raked over $1m:
Main Event @ $4.3m
The Colossus @ $1.1m
Millionaire Maker @ $1.1m
Monster Stack @ $1.0m


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 26, 2017, 04:23:41 PM
How much rake did hurrahs take at the wsop ??
Is that even mentioned anywhere ?
Mind boggling no doubt

Very bored, took about 30 minutes.

$19.63m rake over 74 events.

Average rake 8.5%

Lowest %: $111,111 One Drop @ 1.5%
Highest %: $365 Giant @ 21.7%

4 tournaments raked over $1m:
Main Event @ $4.3m
The Colossus @ $1.1m
Millionaire Maker @ $1.1m
Monster Stack @ $1.0m

Add to that reg fees for Super Sats, Single Table satellites, Daily Deepstacks, & cash games.

It's a hugely expensive enterprise to operate though, to be fair.

I would think - a pure guess - that, Vegas-wide, they make more money from renting out hotel rooms than they do from WSOP rake & reg fees. Which, after all, is the only reason they run the WSOP - to enable them to rent out hotel rooms. They own over 40% of all hotel rooms in Vegas if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tikay on July 26, 2017, 04:24:21 PM

Rake Downtown probably averages close to 20%.


Title: Re: WSOP 2017
Post by: tonytats on July 26, 2017, 04:35:08 PM
Wow all that money down the plug hole