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For rather large amounts of money - Neil Strike:

I just get a profile of someone called Willie Elliott?

Sad news indeed. I was on FB last night talking to a few regs from next door who had lent him money and thought they knew him very well. I was asked by the man but didn't/couldn't/wouldn't so I was not involved, but to me it's an astounding amount of money.

I will leave it at that, a few friends posted on their FB timelines to deter further lending. I'm not going to comment as it didn't affect me. But I hope maybe stupidly  that those involved get something back.

Thickos

Every six months, regular as clockwork, up pops another one.

Glennda post?

Letting someone handle money that has a history of stealing and grimming has got to be the cardinal sin.

Yeah this.

TBH any involvement of a financial/gambling/staking nature after the first offence should be a no no. Always tilts me how many times otherwise good players scam people and everyone starts coming up with 'let them play their way out of it' solutions.

These grimming threads always read exactly the same when you are looking at it as an outsider, I'm amazed so many experienced folks fall for it (myself included in the past of course).

Dave's a seriously nice bloke, and not many sharper guys in gambling either.

The worst thing to come out of this (and similar situations) for me is that at some point someone who really deserves the help of a nice guy probably isn't going to get it.

Remind me who "Dave" is please David?

It's me obviously, I just posted before him.

Or possibly Dave Maudlin, who is the chap spilling the beans in the FB link.

Ahh, gotcha, thanks. I don't have Facebook.

Dave Crater, right?

Cliffs

Dave Maudlin has been grimmed by Neil Strike.
Neil Strike plays next door.
Total grim estimate £200k, not just Mr Maudlin, seemingly lots of people.

Thanks Doobs.

Was up to speed on the whole story except that Dave Maudlin got caught or was the one who outed him.

A nasty do.

Sure he will take him to court like he did CC and get the dough back.  DM isn't a mug.  If he can't then he will just suck it up.  I feel much more for the less well rolled guys who got sucked into it and have done a much bigger % of their rolls.  Little Dave is right though that it just makes it harder for real guys to get staked or borrow who are good for it from the legends of the gambling world that are happy to give them a spin.  People who lend/stake know this is an occupational hazard of it but it is built into their business models.  You never hear about the 99% of the time they get their 'juice' with no hassle. Was it just me or did the guy's mug shot look a bit like Blatch?

Never been so shocked by a scamming story to be honest.  It has many similarities to the Blatch thread.

A lot of the people affected are people that I know personally, and these aren't pro poker players.  They are good, enthusiastic recreational players - some winning, some breakeven.  The sums compared to the stakes that they play are quite shocking.  With the Blatch thread, most of the victims were either hardened regulars of the gambling world so I guess they knew the risks a bit more.

Reading the messages that he sent I can't quite believe how so many were taken in by a really poor story.

I guess he gave the illusion of someone with money, told many that he had a good business and also appeared to have had a decent run of form at some live events.

I had the opportunity to watch his play, and also play with him many times and knew that his good results really was just variance because his play was limited at best.  There was a live tournament that I did commentary on where he played the most awful, nitty style I've ever seen that just didn't tie into the same player that I knew.  Looking back now he must have been hanging on for a min cash to tide him over/give him money to spin.

GL on the people involved in getting something back.  It looks like maybe some form of justice via legal means is the most likely way for that to happen.

To all affected, I am so sorry this happened to you.  I seem to be the odd one out in terms of knowing Neil IRL (was with him in Marbella when he shipped the UKIPT HR) and not being sent the C&P sob story.

As Scotty77 says, this really is a story of cynically playing on the good nature of good, normal people.  Most earned the money they gave in 'real life' jobs...because they thought they were doing a friend a favour in a tough spot with his business.  Many of them are finding their lives altered by the sums they gave.

The worst story surrounds his longterm best friend, whom he persuaded to leave his longstanding employment and go work for him...only to steal from him and leave him jobless.  That guy's family sure are picking up the pieces on Neil's gambling addiction.