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I have just started to use a Kodi box to access Exodus and Sportsmania but do not use a VPN.  I was wondering what the general view is on this, is it worth using a VPN?

yes I use one.

Sooner or later ISPs are going to start blocking or sending out letters to people downloading from known pirate sources.  I think that Mobdro is blocked by some ISPs.   

It's also worth it if you go abroad a bit for getting iplayer and betting (obv poker too risky given the chance that funds will be confiscated).

Also don't use a free one, as sometimes the apps are dodgy in that they use your bandwidth for other customers.  Others are very slow, so no good for streaming.
 

I don't bother, don't think it's worth it.  If I get something through from my ISP I might consider it.  I don't use torrents or other p2p though, if I did, I would.

Am I the only one who does not what any of those are, where I'd buy one, or what they do?

I'll have a good look next time I'm in Tesco.

I don't bother, I'll worry about it when the time comes.....

I think the letters are just for downloading so Kodi should be okay as it's streamed.

I'm same as Woodsey. Not going to worry until something actually happens.

You can get access to some blocked providers / locked geo content with a vpn.  Some newspapers / the bbc incorrectly reported kodi users where getting warning letters and the team behind kodi managed to get the kodi references removed from the website's. Atm ISPs are focusing on dloads.

Asnan aside, for exodus users I'd really recommend real debrid.

For a few  euros every 6 months you get an abundance of HD links that are rock solid and rarely buffer.

Sportsmania is the absolute dogs bollocks for sport.

And exodus is the best for TV/Films.

I don't use a VPN. Just regularly clearing the cache on the android box does the trick.

100% with you on this.

Thank goodness for that, Alan.

They may as well be speaking in a foreign language for all the sense it makes to me.

These boxes are taking away your wages Tikay!

Ha ha, I took the view the less he knows the better  :D

Ha.

I sort of half sussed that it was about stealing Content. I guess it's the internet version of shoplifting, not exactly a hanging offence.

It always seems to me that the forces of law & order almost don't recognize that the internet exists. This particularly applies to Libel, but in so many other areas, too. We have had the web for, what, 30 years now?, & it seems to me it is sheer anarchy, people do whatever they want, legal or not, & nobody stops them.

Anyway, it'll not keep me awake at night. 

Do you pay for sportsmania?  Or is there a free version?

I'm a bit ambivalent about paying for pirate streams.  You really don't know what you could be funding.

Cache cleaning has nothing I can think of to do with a vpn.

Sportsmania is a paid subscription with a varied commitment period.  I paid £26 for 6 months, just over a quid a week.

Kodi isn't illegal in any way at all. It's just a media player that you can run various applications to find perfectly legal content on the interwebs. Unfortunately some unscrupulous individuals have realised that you can develop applications which will allow you to use Kodi to access illegal content.

It's the same way that your PC isn't illegal, neither is a piece of software that can access illegal content. It's when you use both together to download or stream the content that it's dodgy.

Kodi is just an unloaded gun sat on a sideboard. It needs a bullet and a willing operator to turn it in to anything naughty.

Nice to hear you're sleeping well.

Point of order. He didn't say he was sleeping well.

Ok, where do i start?

Any trusted sites that i can get an idiot's guide to Kodi from?

I only get 7.5 mb internet speeds though so will it even run properly?

What do i physically need to buy and do?

I read an earlier thread a week or so ago after yet another pump in prices and bought a loaded Firestick from ebay for about £60 a few days ago - no idea whether it'll be any good or not as not arrived yet. I'm somewhat capable technically but by no means at geek level. I'll give some feedback when I get it. Should be in the next day or so.
Felt £60 was small enough to not really worry whether it worked or not but can't see why it won't.

go to amazon to buy a android tv box, don't pay much more than £40.  Don't pay for pre-installed apps

something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arrivals-M9-Quad-core-Supports-Wireless/dp/B01C55D5VI/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1488313229&sr=1-4&keywords=Android+TV+box%2C

Haven't used that box so can't vouch for it, but the most recent one I bought is out of stock.

download and install kodi from https://kodi.tv/download/ if not installed

here are some sites to tell you how to install apps

https://seo-michael.co.uk/top-10-add-ons/

https://www.tvaddons.ag/forums/general-addons-for-kodi/?s=e578d89b6cb165fa69b1e808f8d1f1a0

http://forum.kodi.tv/forumdisplay.php?fid=154





  

Are your sentiments against buying pre-installed apps based on it being a waste of money because it's relatively straightforward to do yourself (watched a few you tube vids and it did look like even I could do it).

Or, are there other issues with pre-installs generally - appreciate any views on this

Thanks.

How do these boxes connect? I.e do they plug into your TV and then pick up wireless signal from wifi? Or do i need to connect it hardwired to my router?

Mine were that I'd sooner just have something I can plug in, and have it work like scuy.

Costs me a pony a month, but there is normally at least one PPV event a week that more than covers it ;D

Is an Amazon Firestick not a good way of setting this up or is an android box such as the one already linked better?

Amazon fire is fine and I use mine for kodi.

firstly it is easy and secondly pre-installed box retailers are getting a lot of attention from the authorities.  So if you rely on them, they won't be there when all your addons disappear and you need new ones. So imo you might as well learn how to install them. 

My new box reads a usb drive when you stick it in and asks if you want to install the app, so it really is very easy.

 

Can't advise on the firestick bit, but all the apps that I want are in android format, so I prefer that route (they or equivalents might be on firestick idk).

re your other question, you do need a power source for the android box.  Then it uses wifi and connects to tv via an hdmi cable.

Thanks

Thanks. I'll give it a whirl and try and learn too

It's fairly easy to install. The best thing to do if you are unsure is to check out a YouTube tutorial, there's some great guides about.

Best thing to do when buying an android box is to wipe everything off kodi. Dont pay extra for a pre loaded box. It's best to have as little amount of addons as you can.

There's a youtube video explaining how to get pretty much every addon and it shows you the exact step by step. Just follow and it only takes a couple of minutes.

I have 2 addons on my kodi. One is exodus for TV and film, and one is sportsmania which I pay 50 quid for the year and it has pretty much every sports channel in the world and every sporting event and works perfectly about 99% of the time.

I personally wouldn't bother trying to stream live sports on a free addon because they are so hit and miss.

I agree with not buying a preloaded box since they will come with a lot of junk. 

I use an Amazon Firestick and installed Kodi by following these instructions:

 http://troypoint.com/how-to-install-kodi-on-fire-tv/

All you need is Exodus and Sportsmania to meet all of your viewing needs.

The next generation Firesticks are going to have alexa installed so when you click on kodi

"I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.  I think you know why, Dave"

"Your my wife now Dave"

As a few people were asking general questions. I bought a pre loaded firestick and have watched a couple of things through Exodus with no issue. Some unwanted extras in terms of a XXX section as part of the main menu (yes, true, unwanted) and a ton of other stuff I'll never use I'm sure

Have since subscribed and added Sportsmania/Nation - pretty surprised by the quality and made me wish I had simply bought the stick or an Android box as it was pretty easy.

If you install Ares Wizard, you can explore lots of different builds installing and uninstalling with ease.  There's plenty of options without XXX on them too.

Aah, I'll have a go at that.

Think the biggest culture shift for me will be switching from watching a bunch of stuff on my laptop to watching on the TV - aah, the good old days :-)

There's a great multi part (10, I think) series on CBS being aired on Sky Arts which is called "The Eighties".

Along came the Walkman, & the VCR, & from that day on, the world changed as to how we listen to music on the move, & TV.

I'm still missing my VCR, but now we have Firesticks (what they?), Kodi's & Lord knows what else, & even the aged nirvana seems to know how to use them.

I've watched a few of those and the rate of change could be quite intimidating to some old people. I surf atop the maelstrom and find it quite easy to drop in and take the bits I want.

Speaking of change and documentaries - I think they're a few years old but there's been a recent re-run of a few docs on the jet age on BBC4.

Quite interesting the general rate of change and then the relative lack of change in say jet fighters over 40-50 years. Yah, they will be way more efficient now, more manoeuverable and a whole bunch of other improvements but the basic element of get very high very quickly and then belt along at 1000 mph + hasn't changed a great deal. Likewise with a passenger jet like concord.

Actually it's probably a silly point as the rate of improvements is still pretty staggering. Maybe the point is just to tip ones hat to the pioneers of some of these technologies - when you consider the lack of computing power at the time these things were invented, designed, manufactured, it's pretty incredible how advanced some stuff was back in the late 50's 60s'

Ha, love this;

I surf atop the maelstrom

I'm more of a bottom-feeder, a plecostomus maybe.

As I was reading Nirv's piece that phrase jumped out at me and I decided to highlight it. I was staggered to find you had beaten me to it.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1862/premier-league/2017/03/11/33540752/kodi-box-does-a-new-ban-mean-the-end-of-illegal-live


Looks like the big players are determined to keep their profits high!!

Is this the end for cheap football and possibly films?

i thought i had a VPN on my machine but got an email from sky telling me i had illegally downloaded homeland

just one of many things i have downloaded but scary that even with the VPN on that they know this

Isn't homeland on C4/All4 for free?

nope just the last few episodes they only have 28 day licences for each episode

Really, wow I used to store them on my Tivo so didn't know that. Not recorded this series as I found the last one just a bit too clichéd :)

i downloaded some episodes onto my sky to watch as a box set one they had all been shown to then find out they have been deleted off the box, if i had recorded them they would of still been there lol

but i download everything off sky so no adverts

presumably it was a torrent?  Have you tried https://www.dnsleaktest.com/ when your vpn is working?

yeah it was a torrent

will look at getting something going again when i am feeling a bit better in the mean time i am just not going to use torrent