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Title: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 12:51:37 PM
Use this thread for snooker reports or for telling us about your snooker based adventures.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 12:54:36 PM

For starters, here's Jimmy & his hair.


(http://i.imgur.com/HhuHXbt.jpg) (https://imgur.com/HhuHXbt)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 12:55:39 PM

Snooker syrups are featured here, too, in "Golden Syrup"


http://spotthejoin.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 12:57:50 PM

And to balance out the levity for a moment, how about this for a sad photo?

Ugh.


(http://i.imgur.com/lM9GYtA.jpg) (https://imgur.com/lM9GYtA)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 01:04:34 PM

Most of my snooker was played at a former cinema in Nottingham, Lenton Abbey Snooker Club.

It's selling point was the hidden car park round the back, which meant I & others could bunk off work during the day & hide the car round the back, out of sight from the main A52 which went past the front entrance..


(http://i.imgur.com/sq6S4dB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/sq6S4dB)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 03:11:11 PM
Just when I found a reason to open tft you divert me off down a branch line.

I missed the snooker yesterday cos I had to go down the smoke. This morning someone on radio 5 said that O'sullivan had been knocked out, thereby missing the chance to collect 1 million. What's that about?

Also, was any of White's matches televised? I didn't see any.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Longines on November 24, 2017, 03:18:02 PM
Just when I found a reason to open tft you divert me off down a branch line.

I missed the snooker yesterday cos I had to go down the smoke. This morning someone on radio 5 said that O'sullivan had been knocked out, thereby missing the chance to collect 1 million. What's that about?

O'Sullivan, 41, won the English Open last month and triumphs in the Northern Ireland, Scottish and Welsh Opens would have earned him the £1m bonus.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/42099709

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Also, was any of White's matches televised? I didn't see any.

I think they were on the Eurosport Player platform (£5 1 day, £30 year)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 03:28:04 PM
Just when I found a reason to open tft you divert me off down a branch line.

I missed the snooker yesterday cos I had to go down the smoke. This morning someone on radio 5 said that O'sullivan had been knocked out, thereby missing the chance to collect 1 million. What's that about?

O'Sullivan, 41, won the English Open last month and triumphs in the Northern Ireland, Scottish and Welsh Opens would have earned him the £1m bonus.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/42099709

Quote
Also, was any of White's matches televised? I didn't see any.

I think they were on the Eurosport Player platform (£5 1 day, £30 year)


Cheers Mr Jeans.

I hope this Slessor character loses. The cue banging, head-shaking mardy arsed bugger.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 05:43:49 PM
Just when I found a reason to open tft you divert me off down a branch line.

I missed the snooker yesterday cos I had to go down the smoke. This morning someone on radio 5 said that O'sullivan had been knocked out, thereby missing the chance to collect 1 million. What's that about?

O'Sullivan, 41, won the English Open last month and triumphs in the Northern Ireland, Scottish and Welsh Opens would have earned him the £1m bonus.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/42099709

Quote
Also, was any of White's matches televised? I didn't see any.

I think they were on the Eurosport Player platform (£5 1 day, £30 year)


Cheers Mr Jeans.

I hope this Slessor character loses. The cue banging, head-shaking mardy arsed bugger.


Changed me mind now I've seen his winners interview. Good luck to him.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 06:06:46 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 06:07:13 PM
Just when I found a reason to open tft you divert me off down a branch line.

I missed the snooker yesterday cos I had to go down the smoke. This morning someone on radio 5 said that O'sullivan had been knocked out, thereby missing the chance to collect 1 million. What's that about?

Also, was any of White's matches televised? I didn't see any.

Blame Tal Bloke.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 06:13:19 PM
I can't get over the totally disproportionate number of lefties in professional snooker. It must be something like 1/3.

I think If I had been cack-handed I would have made it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on November 24, 2017, 06:18:08 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation. She could talk like Larry Grayson, Marilyn Munroe or Brian Blessed and it won't alter her authority an iota of jottage.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 06:19:28 PM
I was looking for a photo of Michaela and stumbled across this one of me & Big Bill. (that's me on the top)


(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/171124/bb2vmsz3.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 24, 2017, 06:21:43 PM
Remember when he did an exhibiition at Dad's...

Drank 18 pints of Carlsberg Export in ~ 4hours.

Was so pissed he couldn't do his trick shots, and then almost killed the magician's pigeons :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 24, 2017, 06:22:39 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation. She could talk like Larry Grayson, Marilyn Munroe or Brian Blessed and it won't alter her authority an iota of jottage.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.

Quite right.

That's you told, Grumpay ;)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 06:25:00 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.


Yes but they need to announce stuff so that everyone is clear about what's happening.

i.e. player nominates green. Ref calls loudly, "Green ball".

Audience know what's happening, opponent knows what's happening, player striking knows that the ref knows what's happening.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on November 24, 2017, 06:25:57 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation. She could talk like Larry Grayson, Marilyn Munroe or Brian Blessed and it won't alter her authority an iota of jottage.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.

Quite right.

That's you told, Grumpay ;)

Sometimes the voice does matter, though.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beN7FftWNCM


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on November 24, 2017, 06:27:19 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.


Yes but they need to announce stuff to that everyone is clear about what's happening.

i.e. player nominates green. Ref calls loudly, "Green ball".

Audience know what's happening, opponent knows what's happening, player striking knows that the ref knows what's happening.

With Barry in charge, that information will be on the big flashing screen soon and there will be the accompanying music and dancing girl to signify it to the audience, who can sing along before the player finishes chalking his cue.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 06:31:25 PM
Anyway, Tony told me to ask why you got me chucked off the tft thread.  :'(


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on November 24, 2017, 06:38:08 PM
Anyway, Tony told me to ask why you got me chucked off the tft thread.  :'(

You were promoted to having your own thread. You rightly chose not to put it on your diary, after all, so you knew it deserved separate acclaim.

I'm expecting some snooker bets to appear in TfT in the fullness of time, mind. Some of us have holes to get out of.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 06:38:59 PM
I was looking for a photo of Michaela and stumbled across this one of me & Big Bill. (that's me on the top)


(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/171124/bb2vmsz3.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net)

Looks like you had considerably less timber in those days Tom.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 06:40:22 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation. She could talk like Larry Grayson, Marilyn Munroe or Brian Blessed and it won't alter her authority an iota of jottage.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.

Quite right.

That's you told, Grumpay ;)

And you can piss right off.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 24, 2017, 06:43:31 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation. She could talk like Larry Grayson, Marilyn Munroe or Brian Blessed and it won't alter her authority an iota of jottage.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.

I'm not sure I agree with that Mr Tal. Delivery (of voice) is very important in helping to establish authority.

I do agree as to discipline in snooker generally though. Does anyone know if Judd Trump got fined for his ill-mannered petulance earlier this week?



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 06:45:20 PM
Anyway, Tony told me to ask why you got me chucked off the tft thread.  :'(

You were promoted to having your own thread. You rightly chose not to put it on your diary, after all, so you knew it deserved separate acclaim.

I'm expecting some snooker bets to appear in TfT in the fullness of time, mind. Some of us have holes to get out of.


I have to admit that I'm a crap tipster. If I think someone is going to win at 5/1 I still think they're going to win at 2/1.
What's not to like?

Does that make me a Cornetto?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 24, 2017, 06:46:18 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation. She could talk like Larry Grayson, Marilyn Munroe or Brian Blessed and it won't alter her authority an iota of jottage.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.

Quite right.

That's you told, Grumpay ;)

And you can piss right off.

 :D :-*


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 06:48:07 PM

A few days ago, Red commented that suddenly, there are a lot of female referees in snooker.

Very true, no idea why the sudden change in policy. We just had Michaela Tabb for many years, then she fell out with the snooker Authorities over sexism or equal opportunities or whatever & resigned.

Now, there are female refs galore.

Got no problem with it all, quite like it in fact, though they had one young lady refereeing a few weeks ago who had a little tiny high-pitched voice, & did not attempt to project her voice. The result was a complete lack of authority in her voice.

Not her fault, of course. The Refereeing association, or whatever they call themselves, just need to give them one session with a voice coach. One session is all it needs. (Remember Lady Thatcher before & after voice coaching).

She doesn't need a voice coach for authority. She is the referee. That's it. Nothing else to be said on the matter. Authority all hers.

Players respect the ref because decisions are considered and sometimes even the product of an adult conversation. She could talk like Larry Grayson, Marilyn Munroe or Brian Blessed and it won't alter her authority an iota of jottage.

It's a lovely sport for discipline.

I'm not sure I agree with that Mr Tal. Delivery (of voice) is very important in helping to establish authority.

I do agree as to discipline in snooker generally though. Does anyone know if Judd Trump got fined for his ill-mannered petulance earlier this week?



He definitely should be fined. Poor sportsmanship and he is doing a paying audience out of the match they deserve. i.e. one where he tries his best until there is no reasonable possibility of winning.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 06:56:26 PM

Most of my snooker was played at a former cinema in Nottingham, Lenton Abbey Snooker Club.

It's selling point was the hidden car park round the back, which meant I & others could bunk off work during the day & hide the car round the back, out of sight from the main A52 which went past the front entrance..


(http://i.imgur.com/sq6S4dB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/sq6S4dB)


I used to park my car on a bit of waste ground behind a school every day while I played a 10/12 hour session. The doors didn't lock so I just left it open.

Nothing was ever touched, I bet you wouldn't get away with that these days.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 24, 2017, 07:22:29 PM
I can't get over the totally disproportionate number of lefties in professional snooker. It must be something like 1/3.

I think If I had been cack-handed I would have made it.

The thing about the lefties that perplexes me is that half of them use the rest as right-hander would.

I've never seen a right-handed player use the rest as a leftie so what is that all about?

I reckon there's something sinister going on..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 07:35:19 PM
I can't get over the totally disproportionate number of lefties in professional snooker. It must be something like 1/3.

I think If I had been cack-handed I would have made it.

The thing about the lefties that perplexes me is that half of them use the rest as right-hander would.

I've never seen a right-handed player use the rest as a leftie so what is that all about?

I reckon there's something sinister going on..


Perhaps they've been at the port..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on November 24, 2017, 07:45:54 PM
I can't get over the totally disproportionate number of lefties in professional snooker. It must be something like 1/3.

I think If I had been cack-handed I would have made it.

The thing about the lefties that perplexes me is that half of them use the rest as right-hander would.

I've never seen a right-handed player use the rest as a leftie so what is that all about?

I reckon there's something sinister going on..

Well played.

;hattip;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 07:59:35 PM
I can't get over the totally disproportionate number of lefties in professional snooker. It must be something like 1/3.

I think If I had been cack-handed I would have made it.

The thing about the lefties that perplexes me is that half of them use the rest as right-hander would.

I've never seen a right-handed player use the rest as a leftie so what is that all about?

I reckon there's something sinister going on..


Perhaps they've been at the port..


I can wait.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on November 24, 2017, 08:11:32 PM
I can't get over the totally disproportionate number of lefties in professional snooker. It must be something like 1/3.

I think If I had been cack-handed I would have made it.

The thing about the lefties that perplexes me is that half of them use the rest as right-hander would.

I've never seen a right-handed player use the rest as a leftie so what is that all about?

I reckon there's something sinister going on..


Perhaps they've been at the port..


I can wait.

Good but a clear silver behind sinister.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 24, 2017, 08:19:15 PM
I can't get over the totally disproportionate number of lefties in professional snooker. It must be something like 1/3.

I think If I had been cack-handed I would have made it.

The thing about the lefties that perplexes me is that half of them use the rest as right-hander would.

I've never seen a right-handed player use the rest as a leftie so what is that all about?

I reckon there's something sinister going on..


Perhaps they've been at the port..


I can wait.

Good but a clear silver behind sinister.



(https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/sport-fence-fencer-fencing_competition-podium-win-jcen239_low.jpg)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 25, 2017, 02:47:14 PM
Pundit, showing Jimmy White a Pot Black magazine pic of himself from 1985.

"You were a handsome devil back then".

"What do you mean, was?"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 25, 2017, 03:06:03 PM
Huge frame for Slessor to go 3/2 behind rather than 4/1.

Williams looks a bit rocky now to be honest. Slessor almost fave now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 25, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
And as I type Slesor lets Williams in  ::)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 25, 2017, 03:14:52 PM
FFS! Joe Johnson talks more than a drunken fish wife.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 25, 2017, 03:25:03 PM
FFS! Joe Johnson talks more than a drunken fish wife.

It's usually a good contest between Joe and Mike Hallett.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 25, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
Williams has had loads of chances to wrap this frame up.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 25, 2017, 03:44:26 PM
lol What a great frame this is.

I've fallen off the seat twice. Imagine if I'd had a bet.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 25, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
Joe- "This is a tough one....."

Fek off, my granny could have potted that.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 25, 2017, 03:48:03 PM
No way back for Slasher now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 25, 2017, 06:45:26 PM
I really like the look of Yan Bingtao - already a complete player at eighteen years old - and reckon he might well be a world champion in waiting.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 25, 2017, 07:04:19 PM
Colin Murray has turned being toe-curlingly grating into an art-form.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 25, 2017, 08:04:07 PM
Colin Murray has turned being toe-curlingly grating into an art-form.

+1


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 25, 2017, 08:06:19 PM

Why did Mrs Referee not pick up that piece of fallen debris from the lighting gantry?

Eventually, Yan picked it up, but the ref should have dealt with it earlier, and also checked that the lighting rig was safe.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 25, 2017, 08:14:33 PM
I really like the look of Yan Bingtao - already a complete player at eighteen years old - and reckon he might well be a world champion in waiting.

Agreed.

Gotta love his shoes, too. I have an identical pair.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 25, 2017, 08:19:30 PM
I really like the look of Yan Bingtao - already a complete player at eighteen years old - and reckon he might well be a world champion in waiting.

Agreed.

Gotta love his shoes, too. I have an identical pair.

I'm sure he'll be overjoyed if he ever discovers that ;D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 25, 2017, 08:24:57 PM
I really like the look of Yan Bingtao - already a complete player at eighteen years old - and reckon he might well be a world champion in waiting.

Agreed.

Gotta love his shoes, too. I have an identical pair.

I'm sure he'll be overjoyed if he ever discovers that ;D

In fact we also own identical whistles.



(http://i.imgur.com/iAeSAPz.jpg) (https://imgur.com/iAeSAPz)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 25, 2017, 08:33:49 PM
I really like the look of Yan Bingtao - already a complete player at eighteen years old - and reckon he might well be a world champion in waiting.

Agreed.

Gotta love his shoes, too. I have an identical pair.

I'm sure he'll be overjoyed if he ever discovers that ;D

In fact we also own identical whistles.



(http://i.imgur.com/iAeSAPz.jpg) (https://imgur.com/iAeSAPz)


I need to see you bowling around the Rio in that next summer.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 25, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
By a strange coincidence I used to have an almost identical(but considerably less expensive)pair of golf shoes when I was his age.

I couldn't afford the whistle.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 01:56:10 PM
Is it me or do the pockets seem generous?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 26, 2017, 02:26:27 PM
Is it me or do the pockets seem generous?

Very.

My sort of table, that.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: The Camel on November 26, 2017, 03:27:36 PM
Colin Murray has turned being toe-curlingly grating into an art-form.

+1

It's weird, I think he's really good on the radio.

Put him front of a tv camera and he turns into a twat.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 04:08:56 PM
I love the 'White's lies' section. The dognap story was hilarious.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2017, 06:50:37 PM
Colin Murray has turned being toe-curlingly grating into an art-form.

+1

It's weird, I think he's really good on the radio.

Put him front of a tv camera and he turns into a twat.

He was unbelievable yesterday interviewing Yan Bingtao after his win against the other Chinese lad in the semi-final.

The interview was being conducted via an interpreter and Yan was a little hyper to say the least and was yammering away nineteen to the dozen in Chinese - all the while Colin was looking at him and nodding like one of those annoying nodding-dogs in the back of cars as though he understood every word - clearly if Colin Murray speaks fluent Cantonese I am doing him a disservice.

He has an unfortunate manner, as my diplomatic and much missed old man might have said.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 26, 2017, 07:27:33 PM
I really like the look of Yan Bingtao - already a complete player at eighteen years old - and reckon he might well be a world champion in waiting.

Good shout Ralph, it's rare to see such talent in one so young. Love his tempo, too, strolls around the table like a veteran.

Currently 33/1 for the World's, and 2018 may be a tad soon, but I've seen worse bets. He played it this year, and was narrowly edged out 10-8 by a somewhat lucky Shaun Murphy, so he has some Crucible experience.

What a lovely thing it is to see youngsters with such exceptional talent.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2017, 07:33:01 PM
What a lovely thing it is to see youngsters with such exceptional talent.

Similar to what Steve Davis said when I played him when I was a teenager... That sure turned out well :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 07:42:19 PM
Couldn't leave anything, but he has left a red to the baulk pocket....


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 07:55:33 PM
These bags are huge. I've never seen so many balls go in off the near knuckle.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2017, 08:04:57 PM
What a lovely thing it is to see youngsters with such exceptional talent.

Similar to what Steve Davis said when I played him when I was a teenager... That sure turned out well :D

Tell us more about you snooker career Marky I know you pretty much grew up in a snooker hall - did you actually make a 147?

I remember that your dad was Micky147 way back when on laddies and clearly a good player too so did he make any maximums?

I think my best was 118 although I was playing a fairly decent player level for $20 a game and I was 2/3 games up at the time in Times Square Billiards in Toronto during the 1970's in the week or so when I was totally in the zone - it felt like I couldn't miss when I was in the balls and was on a table clearance with a couple of reds left and he started putting the balls back on the table to rack up for the next game without letting me finish my break - the bastard - so I might have beaten it. I guess he thought I was making 100+ breaks all the time and it was a mere bagatelle!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 08:20:43 PM
I was on 91 and has just got down to pot the black with the intention of leaving the white ball in the same position for the last red when someone walked past in my line of sight.

I got up from the shot, went to the ledge under the scoreboard where the ashtray was and had a drag on my cigarette, then went back to the table and somehow forgot that I hadn't potted the black yet and shot at the red.

I was absolutely gutted. I never did make a century.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
What a lovely thing it is to see youngsters with such exceptional talent.

Similar to what Steve Davis said when I played him when I was a teenager... That sure turned out well :D

Tell us more about you snooker career Marky I know you pretty much grew up in a snooker hall - did you actually make a 147?

I remember that your dad was Micky147 way back when on laddies and clearly a good player too so did he make any maximums?

I think my best was 118 although I was playing a fairly decent player level for $20 a game and I was 2/3 games up at the time in Times Square Billiards in Toronto during the 1970's in the week or so when I was totally in the zone - it felt like I couldn't miss when I was in the balls and was on a table clearance with a couple of reds left and he started putting the balls back on the table to rack up for the next game without letting me finish my break - the bastard - so I might have beaten it. I guess he thought I was making 100+ breaks all the time and it was a mere bagatelle!

That's a bit moody, so I guess you regularly relieved him of his dough!


Wasn't much of a career, I was just a good club player as a kid, and the only time I made a 147 was doing line-up :D

I had a few tons messing about, but never practiced that much, and was in the weekend cardschools by the time I was 14, lol.

I got stuck into rugby when I hit 6th form, so that was 4 days a week with school & town, and then joined the mob at 18.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 26, 2017, 08:31:52 PM


Why did Mark Williams play those (attempted) snooker escapes one-handed?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 08:34:57 PM


Why did Mark Williams play those (attempted) snooker escapes one-handed?


Because he needs his arse smacking.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 08:42:01 PM
Great match though. You wouldn't rule out a one frame decider would you?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2017, 08:42:41 PM
I was on 91 and has just got down to pot the black with the intention of leaving the white ball in the same position for the last red when someone walked past in my line of sight.

I got up from the shot, went to the ledge under the scoreboard where the ashtray was and had a drag on my cigarette, then went back to the table and somehow forgot that I hadn't potted the black yet and shot at the red.

I was absolutely gutted. I never did make a century.

Oh dear, lol.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 26, 2017, 08:55:10 PM
Great match though. You wouldn't rule out a one frame decider would you?

I've not had a bet, and I'm not greatly fussed who wins, and yet I'm really enjoying it.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Was neutral, but now kind of funking for Williams. He's been under it all through this match and he's hung in there.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2017, 09:02:29 PM
What a lovely thing it is to see youngsters with such exceptional talent.

Similar to what Steve Davis said when I played him when I was a teenager... That sure turned out well :D

Tell us more about you snooker career Marky I know you pretty much grew up in a snooker hall - did you actually make a 147?

I remember that your dad was Micky147 way back when on laddies and clearly a good player too so did he make any maximums?

I think my best was 118 although I was playing a fairly decent player level for $20 a game and I was 2/3 games up at the time in Times Square Billiards in Toronto during the 1970's in the week or so when I was totally in the zone - it felt like I couldn't miss when I was in the balls and was on a table clearance with a couple of reds left and he started putting the balls back on the table to rack up for the next game without letting me finish my break - the bastard - so I might have beaten it. I guess he thought I was making 100+ breaks all the time and it was a mere bagatelle!

That's a bit moody, so I guess you regularly relieved him of his dough

Strangely enough that was the one and only time I played him.

He was an odd chap with a good cue-action but usually practised alone and was forever sanding his cue looking for the perfect hit.

Unlucky bugger decided to take me on for money during the week I was playing the best snooker of my life!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2017, 09:06:05 PM
Was neutral, but now kind of funking for Williams. He's been under it all through this match and he's hung in there.

I'm not sure if you know the full story but Mark Williams' missus is quite ill and has been in and out of hospital this last week and had to go back to hossie yesterday.

He was touch and go whether to concede the final and go home but decided to stay and play clearly feeling a little unsettled.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 09:09:42 PM
Was neutral, but now kind of funking for Williams. He's been under it all through this match and he's hung in there.

I'm not sure if you know the full story but Mark Williams' missus is quite ill and has been in and out of hospital this last week and had to go back to hossie yesterday.

He was touch and go whether to concede the final and go home but decided to stay and play clearly feeling a little unsettled.


No, I didn't know that Ralph.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2017, 09:13:53 PM
"He's absolutely foaming" quips Joe Johnson as Williams misses a tricky red to the middle pocket.

He may have meant fuming...


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 09:28:57 PM
Was neutral, but now kind of funking for Williams. He's been under it all through this match and he's hung in there.

I'm not sure if you know the full story but Mark Williams' missus is quite ill and has been in and out of hospital this last week and had to go back to hossie yesterday.

He was touch and go whether to concede the final and go home but decided to stay and play clearly feeling a little unsettled.


No, I didn't know that Ralph.


Suspected viral meningitis apparently.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 26, 2017, 09:45:22 PM
Great match though. You wouldn't rule out a one frame decider would you?

Probably not.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 26, 2017, 09:49:12 PM

£70,000 to the winner, £30,000 to the runner-up, and a one frame decider.

Do they ever do business in these spots, or agree a "saver"?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
Was neutral, but now kind of funking for Williams. He's been under it all through this match and he's hung in there.

I'm not sure if you know the full story but Mark Williams' missus is quite ill and has been in and out of hospital this last week and had to go back to hossie yesterday.

He was touch and go whether to concede the final and go home but decided to stay and play clearly feeling a little unsettled.


No, I didn't know that Ralph.


Suspected viral meningitis apparently.

Let's hope foaming isn't a symptom


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 26, 2017, 09:54:38 PM
Was neutral, but now kind of funking for Williams. He's been under it all through this match and he's hung in there.

I'm not sure if you know the full story but Mark Williams' missus is quite ill and has been in and out of hospital this last week and had to go back to hossie yesterday.

He was touch and go whether to concede the final and go home but decided to stay and play clearly feeling a little unsettled.


No, I didn't know that Ralph.


Suspected viral meningitis apparently.

Let's hope foaming isn't a symptom

Ralph!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 27, 2017, 11:33:13 PM
Does anyone remember those old metal tubes that used to hang in rows on the walls of billiard halls for regulars and club members to keep their cues in?

I've searched the interned and I can't find a picture of one.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on November 27, 2017, 11:42:46 PM

£70,000 to the winner, £30,000 to the runner-up, and a one frame decider.

Do they ever do business in these spots, or agree a "saver"?

Don't think they do because they would both want to 'lose' to avoid the tax man.  I have often thought this myself.  They could lose on purpose the last frame and lay themselves on betfair at evens to win £40k.  That £40k on bf is tax free legally (albeit it involves match fixing).  If they play properly and win they win £40k but pay 45% income tax on it.

Slightly different to a poker MTT final table for similar money.  Would deals still be done in the same way on big poker mtt's if it was taxed as income and so publicly known to the tax man what each player earned each year via worldsnooker.com or similar sites for poker?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 27, 2017, 11:53:50 PM
Does anyone remember those old metal tubes that used to hang in rows on the walls of billiard halls for regulars and club members to keep their cues in?

I've searched the interned and I can't find a picture of one.

They still have a few hanging near the snooker table at my golf club - I often wonder if anyone has checked out the contents in the last fifty years.

After placing an advertisement for a hand-spliced ash cue in the local paper I bought my snooker cue from a bloke who extracted it from one of those very same metal tubes at a working-man's club in Nottingham around thirty years ago. He was pulling the cue out so roughly that I thought he was going to scar it for life but fortunately I managed to stop him in time.

I took it out of it's case and had a look at it the other day - it is still as straight as the proverbial die.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 28, 2017, 01:40:03 AM
Does anyone remember those old metal tubes that used to hang in rows on the walls of billiard halls for regulars and club members to keep their cues in?

I've searched the interned and I can't find a picture of one.

They still have a few hanging near the snooker table at my golf club - I often wonder if anyone has checked out the contents in the last fifty years.

After placing an advertisement for a hand-spliced ash cue in the local paper I bought my snooker cue from a bloke who extracted it from one of those very same metal tubes at a working-man's club in Nottingham around thirty years ago. He was pulling the cue out so roughly that I thought he was going to scar it for life but fortunately I managed to stop him in time.

I took it out of it's case and had a look at it the other day - it is still as straight as the proverbial die.




Back in the day, most snooker clubs were just places were the majority of the members were recreational players who who neither knew nor cared that they were playing on badly fitted tables with dead cushions and cloths that were either like great hairy horse-blankets or totally slick and bereft of any kind of nap at all.

The North Midland Snooker club was an exception though. It was owned by three businessmen. two of whom were very accomplished amateur players which meant that the tables were in good nick, fitted properly, had good quality cloths and cushions, and were brushed and ironed daily.

There were nine tables in rows of three and they were separated from the distractions of the bar area by a glass partition. All the tables were good, but the three nearest the glass were the 'match' tables.

The club opened daily at 10am and by 11 every table was busy and every match in progress would be a money match with the players either betting on themselves or being staked by one of the many gamblers from the 'Little Room'.

The Little Room was behind a closed, windowless door. It was where some of the most fascinating (and dangerous) men you are ever likely to meet spent their days wreathed in clouds of smoke, playing cards and watching horse racing on the telly.

These men were gangsters, loan sharks, drug dealers and pimps mixed with local business men who knew which palms to grease and policemen who knew when to look the other way.

No one was allowed inside the Little Room without permission. I was one of the privileged few who could pop in now and then because I was a friend of Stan Smith, a dodgy but wealthy timber merchant who made his fortune selling reclaimed timber and corrugated metal sheets to farmers across the country, and Ray Stringfellow, a retired but still very capable prize fighter.

Although none of these men played snooker and almost never ventured out from behind the closed door of the Little Room, they made the whole place buzz. They dealt and gambled amongst themselves constantly, throwing large amounts of money around like confetti.

Inevitably, because they needed people to put bets on at the bookies, fetch takeaways, deliver a motor to somewhere, or do do any one of a hundred other 'small jobs', (some of which paid better than others, if you know what I mean) a small amount of confetti always managed to drift out of the little room and into the pockets of the rest of us. It was like a little ecosystem.

Now due to it's popularity, it was decided that the Little Room would be fitted with an extension.
On the back wall (which was now to be demolished) there hung a row of those metal cue cases, each one with a tiny padlock on it's rusty hasp. No one knew who they belonged to or how long they had been there but estimates ranged from 20 to 50 years. These, it was decided, would have to go.

Until now, no one had ever given the row of old cue cases a second thought, now, everyone, players and non players alike, were desperate to open them up.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2017, 08:12:29 AM

£70,000 to the winner, £30,000 to the runner-up, and a one frame decider.

Do they ever do business in these spots, or agree a "saver"?

Don't think they do because they would both want to 'lose' to avoid the tax man.  I have often thought this myself.  They could lose on purpose the last frame and lay themselves on betfair at evens to win £40k.  That £40k on bf is tax free legally (albeit it involves match fixing).  If they play properly and win they win £40k but pay 45% income tax on it.

Slightly different to a poker MTT final table for similar money.  Would deals still be done in the same way on big poker mtt's if it was taxed as income and so publicly known to the tax man what each player earned each year via worldsnooker.com or similar sites for poker?

Perfectly logical, but these are snooker players not Pro gamblers, & I'm not convinced they know enough about betting to work all that out.

Also, if we took Mark Williams as a (purely hypothetical) case in point, I'd be very surprised if he could ever lay his hands on £40k cash. I seem to recall he was busto - proper busto - a few years back.

Plus, of course, betting on a game he is involved in would be a very serious offence in the eyes of the snooker authorities. I'm not saying snooker players are angels - we know that's far from true - but (I believe) most of them bet - relatively - small sums. Betting a biggish 5 figure sum would come out on top eventually. (Was it Bingham who got caught punting on his games recently? Don't recall the exact details, but seem to recall it was very small beer).

Presumably, you'd argue the same logic in professional Darts?   

I agree poker is a different scenario. When we play in Las Vegas, the tax situation makes a HUGE difference to final table chops & business, as I'm sure you know. It's very much to our advantage to be Brits in a Vegas final table chop. Just ask Chompy, who cashes there almost every MTT he plays, 90 player chops & all sorts.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2017, 08:23:49 AM

What a great thread this is becoming, love those tales from the 2 old boys.

Further episodes eagerly awaited.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2017, 08:32:15 AM
Does anyone remember those old metal tubes that used to hang in rows on the walls of billiard halls for regulars and club members to keep their cues in?

I've searched the interned and I can't find a picture of one.

They still have a few hanging near the snooker table at my golf club - I often wonder if anyone has checked out the contents in the last fifty years.

After placing an advertisement for a hand-spliced ash cue in the local paper I bought my snooker cue from a bloke who extracted it from one of those very same metal tubes at a working-man's club in Nottingham around thirty years ago. He was pulling the cue out so roughly that I thought he was going to scar it for life but fortunately I managed to stop him in time.

I took it out of it's case and had a look at it the other day - it is still as straight as the proverbial die.

I used to handle my cue as if it were a new-born baby, & woe betide anyone who so much as touched it.

I was not up to the Ralph/Red standard as a player though. Bad eyesight, poor hand-eye co-ordination, & a world class snatch were too much to overcome.

My snatch on the impact stroke was incred. I visited coach after coach trying to cure it, but never succeeded.

I could feather the cue like a pro, smooth, gentle & slow, & would practice by doing that for hours, just feathering an imaginery cue ball. Then, with a cue ball, & on a real shot, even after telling myself DON'T SNATCH my left arm would sort of explode, & the final stroke of the cue would be about 100 mph. Think I've got trophies for "Worst Cue Action".


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2017, 09:44:21 AM
Tom where exactly was The North Midlands Snooker Club and was that where you knew Dave Smith from before poker?

I remember you saying that he used to back several snooker players in the old days.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 28, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
Tom where exactly was The North Midlands Snooker Club and was that where you knew Dave Smith from before poker?

I remember you saying that he used to back several snooker players in the old days.


It was, (Still is) in Worksop Ralph.

Dave Smith used to visit occasionally to do some business in the Little Room or to bring the odd player over for a money match.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 28, 2017, 02:22:40 PM
Does anyone remember those old metal tubes that used to hang in rows on the walls of billiard halls for regulars and club members to keep their cues in?

I've searched the interned and I can't find a picture of one.

They still have a few hanging near the snooker table at my golf club - I often wonder if anyone has checked out the contents in the last fifty years.

After placing an advertisement for a hand-spliced ash cue in the local paper I bought my snooker cue from a bloke who extracted it from one of those very same metal tubes at a working-man's club in Nottingham around thirty years ago. He was pulling the cue out so roughly that I thought he was going to scar it for life but fortunately I managed to stop him in time.

I took it out of it's case and had a look at it the other day - it is still as straight as the proverbial die.

I used to handle my cue as if it were a new-born baby, & woe betide anyone who so much as touched it.

I was not up to the Ralph/Red standard as a player though. Bad eyesight, poor hand-eye co-ordination, & a world class snatch were too much to overcome.

My snatch on the impact stroke was incred. I visited coach after coach trying to cure it, but never succeeded.

I could feather the cue like a pro, smooth, gentle & slow, & would practice by doing that for hours, just feathering an imaginery cue ball. Then, with a cue ball, & on a real shot, even after telling myself DON'T SNATCH my left arm would sort of explode, & the final stroke of the cue would be about 100 mph. Think I've got trophies for "Worst Cue Action".


I was no great shakes ability wise, (the pro's used to give me 50) but I had a strong tactical game (Developed through years of playing people that were capable of winning a frame at one visit) and was a good money player. Lots of players who could beat me for a fiver would lose to me for £100, even if we both had only a small % of the total stake.

 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 30, 2017, 05:30:16 PM

The UK Open started a day or two ago, runs until December 10th, & will be extensively covered on TV, starting this Saturday.

Mark Williams is through to Round 2, but says he may withdraw as his wife remains ill;


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/42182393


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 01, 2017, 08:21:57 AM

News from the early rounds of the UK Open, (TV coverage starts tomorrow).

Ronnie got through 6-3, but not without quite a fight from Jackson Page, who is described as a "Welsh Schoolboy". Not sure I'm buying "schoolboy", he's got a beard, schoolboys don't have beards. They'll be telling us schoolgirl wear bras next.


(http://i.imgur.com/mv5eRzB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/mv5eRzB)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 01, 2017, 08:23:23 AM

There was one eye-opening result, though, when Ali Carter, ranked in the Top 16 I believe, was beaten by this 55 year old.


 (http://i.imgur.com/NZNICOD.jpg) (https://imgur.com/NZNICOD)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: 4KSuited on December 01, 2017, 08:43:19 AM
 

Also at The Western tonight, & playing in the Private Tourney which James of Sky was hosting, was Neil Foulds, the snooker chappie.

I used to be a bit handy at snooker, & won little comps to play Neil & other visiting Pros from time to time, & I recall Neil beat me, conceding 49 (7 blacks) 104-53. The 4 points I got were because he went in-off......

I first met Neil through his Father, Geoff, at Fishers Snooker Club in Acton. Regulars there for their Friday Night Handicap Tourney included the truant schoolkid Jimmy White, his big mucker Tony Meo, (who sells watches in Covent Garden these days I am told), & an Irish oAmateur, Patsy Fagan. I think Fishers Snooker Club was owned by a bookie by the name of Don (?) Slack, & I vividly recall, purely for her personality, his stunning & pleasantly heavy-topped daughter.

Neil seems to have aged 20 years since we last met, though I guess that was 30 years ago.

He hit the snooker heights in the mid-eighties, & was World No 3 at one stage I seem to recall. But his career was blighted by a medical ailment - a heart problem I believe - which required him to take Beta-Blockers to relax his muscles. This caused a bt of a hoohah - he only took them for a few weeks, & openly declared so, & why he took them, but the Red-Tops got hold of the story, (Snooker was the big thing at the time), twisted it, & accused him of "doing drugs". He never reallly recovered, & he retired early, after which he became a commentator for the Beeb & Sky. He told me tonight that he retired because he no longer had quite the game needed to stay at the top, & he preferred to retire rather than slide into mediocrity. We chatted about old mutual pals - Mike Hallett (still grinding it out I believe), Willie Thorne, Ray Reardon, Patsy Fagan, happy days.

He's quite a pal of Roy Brindley, too, & Neil owns a few Greyhounds I thnk. He does a bit of work for Ladbrokes these days.

He played the Private Sky Tourney with us tonight (he's a pal of Tim Peters), & has a good little game. Down to 4 handed, (only 3 paid) Tim moved all-in, Dr Tom Sambrook did the same, & Neil superbly passed Jacks, & I did the same with KQ suited. Tim had Aces, & Dr Tom had the same hand as me!

I really enjoyed his company, what a nice man.

Stumbled across this post in Tikay's diary from December 2007.

The wild Western, eh? I'll never forget seeing Doyle Brunson there, in support of one of the mega comps they ran in their latter days. Physically, he looked very frail (despite his size), but mentally as sharp as ever, I suspect.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 01, 2017, 10:38:27 AM
 

Also at The Western tonight, & playing in the Private Tourney which James of Sky was hosting, was Neil Foulds, the snooker chappie.

I used to be a bit handy at snooker, & won little comps to play Neil & other visiting Pros from time to time, & I recall Neil beat me, conceding 49 (7 blacks) 104-53. The 4 points I got were because he went in-off......

I first met Neil through his Father, Geoff, at Fishers Snooker Club in Acton. Regulars there for their Friday Night Handicap Tourney included the truant schoolkid Jimmy White, his big mucker Tony Meo, (who sells watches in Covent Garden these days I am told), & an Irish oAmateur, Patsy Fagan. I think Fishers Snooker Club was owned by a bookie by the name of Don (?) Slack, & I vividly recall, purely for her personality, his stunning & pleasantly heavy-topped daughter.

Neil seems to have aged 20 years since we last met, though I guess that was 30 years ago.

He hit the snooker heights in the mid-eighties, & was World No 3 at one stage I seem to recall. But his career was blighted by a medical ailment - a heart problem I believe - which required him to take Beta-Blockers to relax his muscles. This caused a bt of a hoohah - he only took them for a few weeks, & openly declared so, & why he took them, but the Red-Tops got hold of the story, (Snooker was the big thing at the time), twisted it, & accused him of "doing drugs". He never reallly recovered, & he retired early, after which he became a commentator for the Beeb & Sky. He told me tonight that he retired because he no longer had quite the game needed to stay at the top, & he preferred to retire rather than slide into mediocrity. We chatted about old mutual pals - Mike Hallett (still grinding it out I believe), Willie Thorne, Ray Reardon, Patsy Fagan, happy days.

He's quite a pal of Roy Brindley, too, & Neil owns a few Greyhounds I thnk. He does a bit of work for Ladbrokes these days.

He played the Private Sky Tourney with us tonight (he's a pal of Tim Peters), & has a good little game. Down to 4 handed, (only 3 paid) Tim moved all-in, Dr Tom Sambrook did the same, & Neil superbly passed Jacks, & I did the same with KQ suited. Tim had Aces, & Dr Tom had the same hand as me!

I really enjoyed his company, what a nice man.

Stumbled across this post in Tikay's diary from December 2007.

The wild Western, eh? I'll never forget seeing Doyle Brunson there, in support of one of the mega comps they ran in their latter days. Physically, he looked very frail (despite his size), but mentally as sharp as ever, I suspect.

Blimey, how did you find that?

10 years ago, seemingly, I wrote that.

I had long forgotten that little private event we (Sky Poker) held there, but I vaguely recall it now you mention it. I have no idea who "Sky James" was though. So many staff come & go over the years.

The Western was, in truth, a bit of a dive. Compo (Dave Compton) & I went there several times, & I'm pretty sure we both knocked it in big time. Think it was run by Derek Baxter (?), after he got banned from The Vic? 

I do well remember they had a deal with Full Tilt, & had half a dozen computer stations perma-logged in to Full Tilt. I watched Dave Penly spin £100 up into £12,000 in under an hour one night. And then spin it down again. I was sort of pleading with him to cash out, but Dave loved a spin up & was actually very good at it.

I wonder if Neil Foulds still has any greyhounds?

I've not seen or heard of Roy the Boy in ages. He used to send me betting "tips", which were a bit left-field. He was always associated with Ladbrokes, though I doubt Ladbrokes Poker can justify an "Ambassador" these days, they've got virtually no traffic.

Doyle was over for the first WSOP-E up in London (the one Annette won), & I got the gig to interview him in his Hotel Suite in Leicester Square for some TV Show I was doing - might have been Wm Hill TV, for Phil, or Poker Week which Compo & I fronted. Doyle's wife was there, too, lovely kind lady. Doyle was OK, not exactly a sparkling personality, but full of interesting tales. In later years, I got to know Todd, his son, just by sharing tables with him occasionally in Vegas, including one all day session this year. Initially, I never took to Todd, I thought he was just a lucky boy, living off his Dad's name & rep. As it happens, we chatted a lot this year, & I found him quite affable & helpful. He always has a toothpick in his mouth, as so many dodgy sorts do, especially Americans. Maybe that was what put me off him originally.     

Mr Slack (Don, Dan?), who owned Fishers Snooker Club in Acton, also owned the club in Wimbledon (or was it Wandsworth?) that Karabiner mentioned a week or so back. I can recall his daughter, but I can't quite recall him now.

Meo & Jimmy always came across for the Friday Night Midnight Sweepstake. I played both of them many times, getting 7 blacks, & rarely troubled the judges. I do recall breaking off against Jimmy White, then he cleared up to the green in a single visit. Bloody bandit.

What a find, no idea how you find these things, but it's opened the memory floodgates. 

Anyway, best stop diverting the thread, or I'll be in trouble with Team Serious.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on December 01, 2017, 11:06:56 AM
I enjoyed the Western,we choppeda comp there once tikay the Tuesday night £100er. Attracted some characters those Tuesdaynights did

I also had a fun seat draw in a Walsall festival comp once.

Seat 1 Mickey Wernick
Seat 2 Lucy Rokach
Seat 3 me
Seat 4 Matthew Stevens
Seat 5 Mark J Williams

I was staying in the Village and the next morning and,neither of us having made day 2,i stumbled into the bar area around 10am to find Mark J there surround by a coterie of advisors, hangers on and he was divvying up bundles of cash as i recall,like feeding the 5000.

this would have been around 2009 so only a few years after his peak


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 01, 2017, 11:44:25 AM
I enjoyed the Western,we choppeda comp there once tikay the Tuesday night £100er. Attracted some characters those Tuesdaynights did

I also had a fun seat draw in a Walsall festival comp once.

Seat 1 Mickey Wernick
Seat 2 Lucy Rokach
Seat 3 me
Seat 4 Matthew Stevens
Seat 5 Mark J Williams

I was staying in the Village and the next morning and,neither of us having made day 2,i stumbled into the bar area around 10am to find Mark J there surround by a coterie of advisors, hangers on and he was divvying up bundles of cash as i recall,like feeding the 5000.

this would have been around 2009 so only a few years after his peak

Yes, I recall you & I chopping that comp up at The Western. Pretty sure on one of the dealers was Tony Phillips. Wonder what happened to him?

I won another Comp there one night when the last 3 were Richard Gryko, Mickey Cook & me.

I fell out a bit with Richard Gryko that night - can't quite remember why - but later we became good muckers & rubbed along well for many years. He married a few years ago & lives somewhere dreadful now - Norfolk, Suffolk, somewhere out there. 

Mickey Cook was known as "The Clock", allegedly as he was a lookout man on robberies. (He was there to "clock" people). Or so the story goes. I'm sure it's completely untrue, & Mickey is a fine, upstanding pillar of society, obv. Last saw him in Vegas a few years ago. He's getting on a bit now, hope he's OK.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 01, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
I enjoyed the Western,we choppeda comp there once tikay the Tuesday night £100er. Attracted some characters those Tuesdaynights did

I also had a fun seat draw in a Walsall festival comp once.

Seat 1 Mickey Wernick
Seat 2 Lucy Rokach
Seat 3 me
Seat 4 Matthew Stevens
Seat 5 Mark J Williams

I was staying in the Village and the next morning and,neither of us having made day 2,i stumbled into the bar area around 10am to find Mark J there surround by a coterie of advisors, hangers on and he was divvying up bundles of cash as i recall,like feeding the 5000.

this would have been around 2009 so only a few years after his peak

Yes, I recall you & I chopping that comp up at The Western. Pretty sure on one of the dealers was Tony Phillips. Wonder what happened to him?

I won another Comp there one night when the last 3 were Richard Gryko, Mickey Cook & me.

I fell out a bit with Richard Gryko that night - can't quite remember why - but later we became good muckers & rubbed along well for many years. He married a few years ago & lives somewhere dreadful now - Norfolk, Suffolk, somewhere out there. 

Mickey Cook was known as "The Clock", allegedly as he was a lookout man on robberies. (He was there to "clock" people). Or so the story goes. I'm sure it's completely untrue, & Mickey is a fine, upstanding pillar of society, obv. Last saw him in Vegas a few years ago. He's getting on a bit now, hope he's OK.


Tony Philips shacked up with Fran what's-her-name, aka Little Miss C. They had a baby together. Freddie, I think they called him. He must be 7 or 8 years old by now.

The last time I saw Tony he was card room manager at the Alea in Nottingham.





Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 01, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
I enjoyed the Western,we choppeda comp there once tikay the Tuesday night £100er. Attracted some characters those Tuesdaynights did

I also had a fun seat draw in a Walsall festival comp once.

Seat 1 Mickey Wernick
Seat 2 Lucy Rokach
Seat 3 me
Seat 4 Matthew Stevens
Seat 5 Mark J Williams

I was staying in the Village and the next morning and,neither of us having made day 2,i stumbled into the bar area around 10am to find Mark J there surround by a coterie of advisors, hangers on and he was divvying up bundles of cash as i recall,like feeding the 5000.

this would have been around 2009 so only a few years after his peak

Yes, I recall you & I chopping that comp up at The Western. Pretty sure on one of the dealers was Tony Phillips. Wonder what happened to him?

I won another Comp there one night when the last 3 were Richard Gryko, Mickey Cook & me.

I fell out a bit with Richard Gryko that night - can't quite remember why - but later we became good muckers & rubbed along well for many years. He married a few years ago & lives somewhere dreadful now - Norfolk, Suffolk, somewhere out there. 

Mickey Cook was known as "The Clock", allegedly as he was a lookout man on robberies. (He was there to "clock" people). Or so the story goes. I'm sure it's completely untrue, & Mickey is a fine, upstanding pillar of society, obv. Last saw him in Vegas a few years ago. He's getting on a bit now, hope he's OK.


Tony Philips shacked up with Fran what's-her-name, aka Little Miss C. They had a baby together. Freddie, I think they called him. He must be 7 or 8 years old by now.

The last time I saw Tony he was card room manager at the Alea in Nottingham.





Get away? Well done him. I do recall he was Fran's partner, & they had a baby.

Which begs the question, is Rob Creed still around?



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 01, 2017, 12:11:36 PM


Anyway, best stop diverting the thread..


That's the most tilting thing anyone can put on a forum.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 01, 2017, 12:12:47 PM
Now look what you've made me do.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 01, 2017, 12:13:54 PM
Creed! That's it. (I wish I could remember names)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 01, 2017, 01:06:00 PM
I think Tony turned out to be a bit of a bellend and things didn't work out well.

Mr Creed was working at the Alea last time i saw him.

Did any of you gentleman frequent the snooker hall in Sneinton ..........


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 01, 2017, 01:14:38 PM
I think Tony turned out to be a bit of a bellend and things didn't work out well.

Mr Creed was working at the Alea last time i saw him.

Did any of you gentleman frequent the snooker hall in Sneinton ..........

So both Tony & Rob worked at Alea? (Red said Tony worked there).

Think we used to play at Sneinton in weekly League Games, but I have no real recollection of the place. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2017, 01:31:52 PM
I think Tony turned out to be a bit of a bellend and things didn't work out well.

Mr Creed was working at the Alea last time i saw him.

Did any of you gentleman frequent the snooker hall in Sneinton ..........

So both Tony & Rob worked at Alea? (Red said Tony worked there).

Think we used to play at Sneinton in weekly League Games, but I have no real recollection of the place. 

Well that's where my beloved table #2(and the rest of them afaik) from the Victoria snooker hall in London ended up and by a strange quirk of coincidence Stuart Hopkin's dad used to own the Sneinton establishment. Unfortunately I never played there so was never able to revisit my old friend.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2017, 01:37:16 PM
Re. The Western. George Crawley was Baxter's partner I believe and they used to run a very big weekly cash game in the back room.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 01, 2017, 01:40:00 PM
I think I played there once against one of Mike Watterson's proteges. Was it called Top Spot or Spot On or something?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 01, 2017, 01:57:32 PM
I think I played there once against one of Mike Watterson's proteges. Was it called Top Spot or Spot On or something?

I never really got to fully appreciate it before my dad sold the club part of the building back in the early 90's, he kept the workshop there for another 7 or 8 years before he started working from home with 2 fitters out on the road.

I think it was when the people my father sold it to, sold it on again that it turned into part of the Spot On chain.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2017, 06:17:18 PM
I think I played there once against one of Mike Watterson's proteges. Was it called Top Spot or Spot On or something?

I never really got to fully appreciate it before my dad sold the club part of the building back in the early 90's, he kept the workshop there for another 7 or 8 years before he started working from home with 2 fitters out on the road.

I think it was when the people my father sold it to, sold it on again that it turned into part of the Spot On chain.

Did you ever confirm with him that the tables came from Victoria c1981/'82, assuming he was the one who opened the hall and put tables in there?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 01, 2017, 08:13:52 PM
I think I played there once against one of Mike Watterson's proteges. Was it called Top Spot or Spot On or something?

I never really got to fully appreciate it before my dad sold the club part of the building back in the early 90's, he kept the workshop there for another 7 or 8 years before he started working from home with 2 fitters out on the road.

I think it was when the people my father sold it to, sold it on again that it turned into part of the Spot On chain.

Did you ever confirm with him that the tables came from Victoria c1981/'82, assuming he was the one who opened the hall and put tables in there?

Just enquired, apparently half came from Goldsmith Street and the rest from Rapers in Manchester.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 02, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
I opened my cue case today for the first time since ~ 2002.



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Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 02, 2017, 11:56:52 AM
What is that green thing - a joint protector?

Did you have an old cue made into a two-piece?

When I opened my case(Ray Reardon Classic) the other day I found that the lining - similar looking stuff to yours only red - was starting to perish too.

I hope the cue hasn't warped.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 02, 2017, 12:04:49 PM
What is that green thing - a joint protector?

Did you have an old cue made into a two-piece?

When I opened my case(Ray Reardon Classic) the other day I found that the lining - similar looking stuff to yours only red - was starting to perish too.

I hope the cue hasn't warped.

Yes, I had an old cue made into a two-piece, mostly so that I could use screw-on extensions.

That green thing behind the tip? That's the brass ferrule.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 02, 2017, 12:47:56 PM
What is that green thing - a joint protector?

Did you have an old cue made into a two-piece?

When I opened my case(Ray Reardon Classic) the other day I found that the lining - similar looking stuff to yours only red - was starting to perish too.

I hope the cue hasn't warped.

Yes, I had an old cue made into a two-piece, mostly so that I could use screw-on extensions.

That green thing behind the tip? That's the brass ferrule.

Ha! My eyes must be worse than yours - I thought the taper was going the other way.

Lovely straight grain at first glance. I'm not sure I would have trusted anyone to cut it and put a joint in a cue that I loved.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 02, 2017, 12:55:14 PM
What is that green thing - a joint protector?

Did you have an old cue made into a two-piece?

When I opened my case(Ray Reardon Classic) the other day I found that the lining - similar looking stuff to yours only red - was starting to perish too.

I hope the cue hasn't warped.

Yes, I had an old cue made into a two-piece, mostly so that I could use screw-on extensions.

That green thing behind the tip? That's the brass ferrule.

Ha! My eyes must be worse than yours - I thought the taper was going the other way.

Lovely straight grain at first glance. I'm not sure I would have trusted anyone to cut it and put a joint in a cue that I loved.


I had it done as soon as I got it, i.e. before I loved it.

The then owner of the Cue Craft factory, also based in Worksop, was my erstwhile mate Rob Manns, I was also friends with the blokes who made the cues, so I was fairly confident of a decent outcome.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 02, 2017, 04:58:51 PM
Ok, I know it's easy to sit on the sidelines and scoff, but Andy Goldstein ffs! He's like sport's answer to David Dickinson.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 02, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Ok, I know it's easy to sit on the sidelines and scoff, but Andy Goldstein ffs! He's like sport's answer to David Dickinson.



Eurosport really seem to struggle with Presenters.

They've also added the "token pretty girl" to their team now.

Less waffle please, just show the bloody snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 02, 2017, 05:09:42 PM
Ok, I know it's easy to sit on the sidelines and scoff, but Andy Goldstein ffs! He's like sport's answer to David Dickinson.



Eurosport really seem to struggle with Presenters.

They've also added the "token pretty girl" to their team now.

Less waffle please, just show the bloody snooker.


It's on BBC2 now with Hazel Irvine.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2017, 12:18:31 PM
Donaldson. yet another brilliant left hander. can't wait to see his next match


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 03, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
Donaldson. yet another brilliant left hander. can't wait to see his next match

The young Chinese player with the Tikay hairdo who lost to Marco Fu last evening is another one - Zhao Xingtong - plays like an Oriental Jimmy White.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2017, 01:57:50 PM
I take it were watching Beeb coverage today?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 03, 2017, 01:59:08 PM
I take it were watching Beeb coverage today?

Watching Irish racing on the telly and BBC snooker on desktop.

Oxtail in the oven for the next several hours too..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2017, 02:13:32 PM
I take it were watching Beeb coverage today?

Watching Irish racing on the telly and BBC snooker on desktop.

Oxtail in the oven for the next several hours too..


Living the dream.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2017, 02:27:35 PM
Donaldson. yet another brilliant left hander. can't wait to see his next match


Just watched some replay footage of Donaldson and now he's not left handed.

WTF?

The men in white coats will be coming for me soon.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on December 03, 2017, 02:57:28 PM
Donaldson. yet another brilliant left hander. can't wait to see his next match


Just watched some replay footage of Donaldson and now he's not left handed.

WTF?

The men in white coats will be coming for me soon.

Just assumed you were watching in the barber's.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2017, 03:10:03 PM
Donaldson. yet another brilliant left hander. can't wait to see his next match


Just watched some replay footage of Donaldson and now he's not left handed.

WTF?

The men in white coats will be coming for me soon.

Just assumed you were watching in the barber's.


Lol, or the Twilight Zone.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 03, 2017, 05:34:24 PM

The 11th & deciding frame between Murphy & Highfield is an absolute corker, swinging this way & that.

Still continuing.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2017, 06:36:20 PM

The 11th & deciding frame between Murphy & Highfield is an absolute corker, swinging this way & that.

Still continuing.




Brilliant! Shame someone had to lose.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2017, 10:17:00 PM
Loving the Higgins match. Give me these 'players struggling, no idea what will happen next' over a potting fest any time.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 03, 2017, 10:53:52 PM
This lad Cao has a lovely safety game on him, got the weight of the tables spot on.

Would love to see him beat Higgins.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 03, 2017, 11:21:11 PM
This lad Cao has a lovely safety game on him, got the weight of the tables spot on.

Would love to see him beat Higgins  with the butt of his cue.

;)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 12:07:31 PM
This lad Cao has a lovely safety game on him, got the weight of the tables spot on.

Would love to see him beat Higgins  with the butt of his cue.

;)



And the bok machine rolls on.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 12:11:33 PM
Salvaged my cue, still as straight a die. (ash see, with good grain)

Needs a tip though. I have a box of Elk Masters, but it's a long time since I've put one on.



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Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 12:51:22 PM
New tip on.


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Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 01:59:10 PM
Be nice to see Dott beat mardy arse Trump.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 02:22:48 PM
The girly ref of the Williams/Day match is wearing sparkly heels.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 02:25:08 PM
Do you think all this snooker on telly will cause another boom?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 02:43:57 PM
What a fabulous clearance by Dott to steal frame 5 and go 3-2 ahead.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 04, 2017, 02:45:45 PM
Oh Mr Red!

That old tip was a thing of perfection, it will take you 2 years to get the new one back into that shape!

I doubt there will be another boom but I do think there should be a Blonde Snooker Bash!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 02:54:43 PM
Oh Mr Red!

That old tip was a thing of perfection, it will take you 2 years to get the new one back into that shape!

I doubt there will be another boom but I do think there should be a Blonde Snooker Bash!


The old tip had gone spongey Stuart.

Back in the day, I used to sit with a snooker ball in by hand, hammering away at a new tip, it reduces the playing-in period tenfold.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: vegaslover on December 04, 2017, 03:54:31 PM
Salvaged my cue, still as straight a die. (ash see, with good grain)

Needs a tip though. I have a box of Elk Masters, but it's a long time since I've put one on.



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I always preferred an Elk to a blue diamond. Bit softer and gave me more grip


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 03:59:54 PM
Salvaged my cue, still as straight a die. (ash see, with good grain)

Needs a tip though. I have a box of Elk Masters, but it's a long time since I've put one on.



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I always preferred an Elk to a blue diamond. Bit softer and gave me more grip


The Canadians used to use red tips that were as hard as iron. I think they were made out of old brake linings. I tried one once but I was terrified of it. When you hit the cue ball with it it made a sound like a bullet ricochetting off a bolder in a box canyon.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 05:03:02 PM
I bet not many of you remember when we had to put tips on using 'wafers' and having to wait 24 hours for then to dry.

(https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/360/0711/19/vintage-cue-tip-wafers-box_360_4821c998316fc525de5451f90b5555fa.jpg)


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Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 04, 2017, 05:42:24 PM
Salvaged my cue, still as straight a die. (ash see, with good grain)

Needs a tip though. I have a box of Elk Masters, but it's a long time since I've put one on.



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I always preferred an Elk to a blue diamond. Bit softer and gave me more grip


The Canadians used to use red tips that were as hard as iron. I think they were made out of old brake linings. I tried one once but I was terrified of it. When you hit the cue ball with it it made a sound like a bullet ricochetting off a bolder in a box canyon.

They were known as "French tips" and although having a much harder feel they had terrific grip once you got used to them.

Canadian cues were almost all made of maple and that might have been a reason why those harder tips performed better.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 05:47:39 PM
Salvaged my cue, still as straight a die. (ash see, with good grain)

Needs a tip though. I have a box of Elk Masters, but it's a long time since I've put one on.



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I always preferred an Elk to a blue diamond. Bit softer and gave me more grip


The Canadians used to use red tips that were as hard as iron. I think they were made out of old brake linings. I tried one once but I was terrified of it. When you hit the cue ball with it it made a sound like a bullet ricochetting off a bolder in a box canyon.

They were known as "French tips" and although having a much harder feel they had terrific grip once you got used to them.

Canadian cues were almost all made of maple and that might have been a reason why those harder tips performed better.

French tips eh? I didn't know that. You're right about the Maple cues, all the foreigners had them.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 05:51:21 PM
I can find a picture of them now I know what they're called.

(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB17lBNMXXXXXcDXFXXq6xXFXXX4/Free-shipping-10pcs-lot-font-b-Original-b-font-Le-Professional-11mm-Snooker-Cue-font-b.jpg)



This is what colour they went when you sanded them.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1390/7761/products/IMG_7475_large.JPG?v=1505538492)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 04, 2017, 08:03:14 PM
I have yet to encounter a finer exponent of stating the obvious than the nonetheless likeable Mike Hallett.

I reckon he'd be perfect for radio commentary.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2017, 09:35:54 PM
Robertson v Joyce is another great match.

So many terrific performances from the underdogs.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on December 05, 2017, 06:10:56 PM
Yo, snookerati:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56581.msg2211979#msg2211979

Let's hear your views on this tip, please.

Now old Willy Thorne his hair's all gone
And his mates all take the rise
His opponent said cover up his head
Cos it's shining in my eyes
When the light shines down on his bare crown
It's a cert he's gonna walk it
It's just not fair giving off that glare
'Perhaps I ought to chalk it


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2017, 06:54:20 PM
I'm not very good at this photo malarkey but here's my cue - the tip seems okay despite not hitting a ball for a good fifteen years.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2017, 06:55:22 PM
That reminds me of one of Tikay's early heron pics.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 05, 2017, 07:06:21 PM
That reminds me of one of Tikay's early heron pics.

No need, no need at all.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 05, 2017, 07:20:19 PM
That reminds me of one of Tikay's early heron pics.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bunnydas8888 on December 05, 2017, 07:29:18 PM
Yo, snookerati:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56581.msg2211979#msg2211979

Let's hear your views on this tip, please.

Now old Willy Thorne his hair's all gone
And his mates all take the rise
His opponent said cover up his head
Cos it's shining in my eyes
When the light shines down on his bare crown
It's a cert he's gonna walk it
It's just not fair giving off that glare
'Perhaps I ought to chalk it


Tough one really.  He hasn't played at all well recently and I don't see him suddenly "finding" it again.  His long game has left him and he was always one who relies on his long game to get in and make frame winning contributions.  In my opinion his safety game isn't up there with some of the top top guys which is why he always went for the long pots to get in and score.  Without that at his disposal he becomes a very weak player.  Some of the misses I saw him making he was no where near to potting.  Almost as bad as some of Trump's misses the other day


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 05, 2017, 10:14:07 PM
What a fabulous clearance by Murphy to beat Robertson. One of the best you will ever see.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 05, 2017, 10:16:46 PM
What a fabulous clearance by Murphy to beat Robertson. One of the best you will ever see.

Proper Houdini job that.

The blue into the middle with the cue ball tight on the baulk cushion was sublime.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 05, 2017, 10:31:56 PM
Yo, snookerati:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56581.msg2211979#msg2211979

Let's hear your views on this tip, please.

Now old Willy Thorne his hair's all gone
And his mates all take the rise
His opponent said cover up his head
Cos it's shining in my eyes
When the light shines down on his bare crown
It's a cert he's gonna walk it
It's just not fair giving off that glare
'Perhaps I ought to chalk it



You make a good argument Mr T and you could very well be right but I have a sneaky feeling that Robertson has past his best and will continue to slide down the rankings.

What price a Chinese world champion within 3 years?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 06, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
So Ralph and I are having a game of snooker today.

It's probably a good job that I don't mind making a fool of myself. Even so, I'm pretty nervous. I don't think I can say the same for Ralph though, he seems pretty confident.

When we were making arrangements I messaged him to say that I would pick him up at 2pm.

'Make it 2:30,' came the reply, 'then I can play a round of golf before we start.'


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 06, 2017, 11:38:01 AM

^^^^^

Excellent news.

Photos of the occasion please.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: verndog158 on December 06, 2017, 11:48:42 AM
I have recently joined the local 'club' and have been playing a fair bit. Can occasionally know in a 30 break but can't seem to get higher

Playing against the old man today and am after revenge fkr the last time we played.

Can't be losing again


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 06, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
So Ralph and I are having a game of snooker today.

It's probably a good job that I don't mind making a fool of myself. Even so, I'm pretty nervous. I don't think I can say the same for Ralph though, he seems pretty confident.

When we were making arrangements I messaged him to say that I would pick him up at 2pm.

'Make it 2:30,' came the reply, 'then I can play a round of golf before we start.'

Where will this extravagant exhibition match take place?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 06, 2017, 01:14:43 PM
So Ralph and I are having a game of snooker today.

It's probably a good job that I don't mind making a fool of myself. Even so, I'm pretty nervous. I don't think I can say the same for Ralph though, he seems pretty confident.

When we were making arrangements I messaged him to say that I would pick him up at 2pm.

'Make it 2:30,' came the reply, 'then I can play a round of golf before we start.'

Where will this extravagant exhibition match take place?


I'm not sure yet. We'll come up with something.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 06, 2017, 05:40:12 PM

Meanwhile, in the UK Championships, Higgins is OUT, losing 5-6 to King.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 06, 2017, 06:29:49 PM
One set each, 2/0 2/0.

3 black ball games.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 01:27:54 PM
I absolutely loved playing snooker with Ralph yesterday. Even though we both played miles below the standard we played at when we were younger, it was, for me at least still a tremendous buzz.

Ralph has undoubtedly been a serious snooker player. The physical ability might wane, (we both kept missing absolute sitters) but the competitive spirit is still strong, even though we were playing for 'fun'

Ralph won the first set 2-0 and I was desperate to win the second set, which I did manage to do, again the score was 2-0, so that's where we left it, honours even.

The psychological side of snooker has always fascinated me, and playing with someone like Ralph who still remembers games he played, balls that he potted (or missed) and snippets of his opponents conversation from 40 years ago brought my love for the game flooding back.

Even with my vastly diminished ability, I could still enjoy snooker again, but, even if we were just playing for the cost of the light, I would have to be playing against someone who, like me, was desperate to win.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 01:40:35 PM
Higgins after losing to mark King.

"This is the beginning of the end"

Took it well then.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 07, 2017, 01:49:35 PM
Where did you play in the end Tom?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 01:51:40 PM
Where did you play in the end Tom?


Somewhere near where Ralph lives, he'll tell you what it was called, I can't remember.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: verndog158 on December 07, 2017, 02:01:35 PM
I'll be up around Nottingham over xmas possibly. I'll put my cue in the car if anyone fancies a game. And trust me, I will be trying to win!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
Do you think all this snooker on telly will cause another boom?

It might, yes.

I was reminded of your question when I saw Peter Ebdon doing his punditry, & it took me back to the era when he was playing. Jeez, he may have been a great player, but he was really painful to watch, or I thought so anyway. Viewers must have turned off in their millions. Now, if we know Ronnie (or several others) are playing, we make an effort to watch.

The standard of play, both in attack & defence, has improved beyond recognition, & there are some interesting characters making a name for themselves, especially the Chinese kids.

The quality of TV coverage is better, too, though I wish they dispense with the gimmicky & un-necessary stuff. Watching & listening to Colin Murphy chat with Jimmy White & Neil Foulds does not exactly set the pulse racing. Eurosport have introduced their "token pretty female" now too. (Sexism alert....). She's undoubtedly a lovely girl, but she knows nothing about snooker, & every single one of her questions is banal, she's snooker's answer to Derek Thompson.

"You've got through, winning 6-0 Ronnie, how does it feel?"



"You only had to pot that simple red to win, but you missed it. Were you disappointed?"


FFS.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 02:17:16 PM
I hate the "his shot time has come down by almost a second" bollocks.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 02:22:44 PM
Where did you play in the end Tom?


Somewhere near where Ralph lives, he'll tell you what it was called, I can't remember.

Stadium Snooker in New Basford.

I used to play for them in the Nottingham inter-club super league about twenty years ago and yesterday was the first time I'd been back since. I think it's fair to say that my game has deteriorated considerably during my hiatus, in fact it took a few games before I could even get down on the cue properly and today I have a cracked rib, backache and a stiff neck.

Well worth making the effort though as spending a few hours in Tom's company reminiscing about our old snooker days is absolutely priceless.

Anyone care to venture a guess as to how long it took us to play four frames of snooker?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 02:26:39 PM
I hate the "his shot time has come down by almost a second" bollocks.

They have a "clever" graphic, & a stopwatch. So they feel obliged to use it, on the assumption that we are all stupid.

We don't need gimmick graphics, & most of the time, we don't need commentary. We can SEE he missed the shot.

To be fair, many of the current crop of commentators are very good. McManus is excellent, & Parrott has still got it. Steve Davis was my snooker idol for many years, but he's not a commentator or pundit I'm afraid.




Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 02:27:38 PM
What's with Walden's stance? He looks like he's about to lay an egg. (Seems to work aright though)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
Where did you play in the end Tom?


Somewhere near where Ralph lives, he'll tell you what it was called, I can't remember.

Stadium Snooker in New Basford.

I used to play for them in the Nottingham inter-club super league about twenty years ago and yesterday was the first time I'd been back since. I think it's fair to say that my game has deteriorated considerably during my hiatus, in fact it took a few games before I could even get down on the cue properly and today I have a cracked rib, backache and a stiff neck.

Well worth making the effort though as spending a few hours in Tom's company reminiscing about our old snooker days is absolutely priceless.

Anyone care to venture a guess as to how long it took us to play four frames of snooker?

I used to play League games there back in the day. At the time, a young lad in their team was unbeatable, he was about 14 & wore a bloody waistcoat & everything. His name was Anthony Hamilton.

Yesterday's 4 frames? I'd be disappointed if they took less than 3.5 hours.

Well done the both of you. Wish my eyes had not gone, I'm distinctly jealous.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on December 07, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
What's with Walden's stance? He looks like he's about to lay an egg. (Seems to work aright though)

Recovering from a serious back injury


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 07, 2017, 02:35:17 PM
Where did you play in the end Tom?


Somewhere near where Ralph lives, he'll tell you what it was called, I can't remember.

Stadium Snooker in New Basford.

I used to play for them in the Nottingham inter-club super league about twenty years ago and yesterday was the first time I'd been back since. I think it's fair to say that my game has deteriorated considerably during my hiatus, in fact it took a few games before I could even get down on the cue properly and today I have a cracked rib, backache and a stiff neck.

Well worth making the effort though as spending a few hours in Tom's company reminiscing about our old snooker days is absolutely priceless.

Anyone care to venture a guess as to how long it took us to play four frames of snooker?

Ah yes, been there a few times.

I would guess 122 minutes


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 02:36:41 PM
What's with Walden's stance? He looks like he's about to lay an egg. (Seems to work aright though)

Recovering from a serious back injury

Wow! I'm surprised he can play at all, let alone to this standard. Good luck to him.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: atdc21 on December 07, 2017, 02:38:55 PM
160 mins to allow for waffle time


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Longines on December 07, 2017, 03:19:17 PM
Being of an age that can remember when they were downing pints, are they now forced to drink only water? None of them fancy a coke or orange juice? Although Google suggests the WPBSA now have an official water partner so maybe that's why.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 03:24:11 PM
Being of an age that can remember when they were downing pints, are they now forced to drink only water? None of them fancy a coke or orange juice? Although Google suggests the WPBSA now have an official water partner so maybe that's why.


No booze, fags or pies to be consumed at the table. Sets the kids a bad example.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
Do you think all this snooker on telly will cause another boom?

It might, yes.

I was reminded of your question when I saw Peter Ebdon doing his punditry, & it took me back to the era when he was playing. Jeez, he may have been a great player, but he was really painful to watch, or I thought so anyway. Viewers must have turned off in their millions. Now, if we know Ronnie (or several others) are playing, we make an effort to watch.

The standard of play, both in attack & defence, has improved beyond recognition, & there are some interesting characters making a name for themselves, especially the Chinese kids.

The quality of TV coverage is better, too, though I wish they dispense with the gimmicky & un-necessary stuff. Watching & listening to Colin Murphy chat with Jimmy White & Neil Foulds does not exactly set the pulse racing. Eurosport have introduced their "token pretty female" now too. (Sexism alert....). She's undoubtedly a lovely girl, but she knows nothing about snooker, & every single one of her questions is banal, she's snooker's answer to Derek Thompson.

"You've got through, winning 6-0 Ronnie, how does it feel?"



"You only had to pot that simple red to win, but you missed it. Were you disappointed?"


FFS.


Just to come back to this, why didn't you like watching Ebdon Tone?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 05:28:55 PM
Do you think all this snooker on telly will cause another boom?

It might, yes.

I was reminded of your question when I saw Peter Ebdon doing his punditry, & it took me back to the era when he was playing. Jeez, he may have been a great player, but he was really painful to watch, or I thought so anyway. Viewers must have turned off in their millions. Now, if we know Ronnie (or several others) are playing, we make an effort to watch.

The standard of play, both in attack & defence, has improved beyond recognition, & there are some interesting characters making a name for themselves, especially the Chinese kids.

The quality of TV coverage is better, too, though I wish they dispense with the gimmicky & un-necessary stuff. Watching & listening to Colin Murphy chat with Jimmy White & Neil Foulds does not exactly set the pulse racing. Eurosport have introduced their "token pretty female" now too. (Sexism alert....). She's undoubtedly a lovely girl, but she knows nothing about snooker, & every single one of her questions is banal, she's snooker's answer to Derek Thompson.

"You've got through, winning 6-0 Ronnie, how does it feel?"



"You only had to pot that simple red to win, but you missed it. Were you disappointed?"


FFS.


Just to come back to this, why didn't you like watching Ebdon Tone?

I just thought he never had any zing or pep about him.

I suspect he's one of those people who wait for the pedestrian lights to go green before he crosses the road, even though no vehicles are in sight.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 05:53:19 PM
Do you think all this snooker on telly will cause another boom?

It might, yes.

I was reminded of your question when I saw Peter Ebdon doing his punditry, & it took me back to the era when he was playing. Jeez, he may have been a great player, but he was really painful to watch, or I thought so anyway. Viewers must have turned off in their millions. Now, if we know Ronnie (or several others) are playing, we make an effort to watch.

The standard of play, both in attack & defence, has improved beyond recognition, & there are some interesting characters making a name for themselves, especially the Chinese kids.

The quality of TV coverage is better, too, though I wish they dispense with the gimmicky & un-necessary stuff. Watching & listening to Colin Murphy chat with Jimmy White & Neil Foulds does not exactly set the pulse racing. Eurosport have introduced their "token pretty female" now too. (Sexism alert....). She's undoubtedly a lovely girl, but she knows nothing about snooker, & every single one of her questions is banal, she's snooker's answer to Derek Thompson.

"You've got through, winning 6-0 Ronnie, how does it feel?"



"You only had to pot that simple red to win, but you missed it. Were you disappointed?"


FFS.


Just to come back to this, why didn't you like watching Ebdon Tone?

I just thought he never had any zing or pep about him.

I suspect he's one of those people who wait for the pedestrian lights to go green before he crosses the road, even though no vehicles are in sight.

I couldn't stand watching Ebdon play either probably because he came across as the dour polar-opposite of the dashing Stephen Hendry.

I have changed my mind about him since he started commentating though as I find him surprisingly excellent.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bergeroo on December 07, 2017, 06:05:55 PM
I interviewed Peter Ebdon once. I guess about 15 years ago. He was way more interested in talking about race horse breeding to me than talking about snooker or himself. Seemed like a nice guy though from my short time chatting to him. I rooted for him after that!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on December 07, 2017, 06:29:32 PM
I interviewed Peter Ebdon once. I guess about 15 years ago. He was way more interested in talking about race horse breeding to me than talking about snooker or himself. Seemed like a nice guy though from my short time chatting to him. I rooted for him after that!

Think he bred Staffies for a while.

Edit: here's him in 2005. Might just be owner, rather than breeder:

(https://www.ourdogs.co.uk/News/2005/July2005/News010705/images/p2news1.jpg)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 06:30:05 PM
It took us exactly three hours to play four frames of snooker with liberal amounts of waffle and a cup of tea each served at the table.

Anyone care to guess what the high break was for each of us?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2017, 06:34:27 PM
It took us exactly three hours to play four frames of snooker with liberal amounts of waffle and a cup of tea each served at the table.

Anyone care to guess what the high break was for each of us?

<30 both


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 07:07:49 PM
I liked watching Ebdon. His sheer effort, dedication and dour determination just appealed to me.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 07:10:51 PM
I liked watching Ebdon. His sheer effort, dedication and dour determination just appealed to me.



Having been on the receiving end of your relentless safety-game yesterday I completely understand.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 07:12:14 PM
It took us exactly three hours to play four frames of snooker with liberal amounts of waffle and a cup of tea each served at the table.

Anyone care to guess what the high break was for each of us?

<30 both

Correct  ;topman;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 07:18:06 PM
I'm going to have a tenner on Stephen Maguire to win it outright. I think he's 12/1


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 07:25:29 PM
Had a fiver on this kid to beat O'sulivan too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 07:31:21 PM
Had a fiver on this kid to beat O'sulivan too.

Not sure I've ever seen anyone use the rest the way he does.

Seems to work for him though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 07:35:13 PM
Had a fiver on this kid to beat O'sulivan too.

Not sure I've ever seen anyone use the rest the way he does.

Seems to work for him though.


Yes.

 I like him, seems well grounded and has a good temperament. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 07:38:47 PM
Wow! What a shot. Needs to go in and win the frame from it now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 07:42:19 PM
He's a left-hander by the way.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 07:45:57 PM
Had a fiver on this kid to beat O'sulivan too.

Not sure I've ever seen anyone use the rest the way he does.

Seems to work for him though.


Yes.

 I like him, seems well grounded and has a good temperament. 

What price did you get Tom?

He was 10/1 pre-match with slybet I wonder who their snooker odds-compiler might be...


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 07:53:09 PM
Had a fiver on this kid to beat O'sulivan too.

Not sure I've ever seen anyone use the rest the way he does.

Seems to work for him though.


Yes.

 I like him, seems well grounded and has a good temperament. 

What price did you get Tom?

He was 10/1 pre-match with slybet I wonder who their snooker odds-compiler might be...

Only 6/1 Ralph, but I did put it on halfway through frame 1.

I don't have many accounts to pick and choose from, just those I happen to have poker accounts with.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 08:00:28 PM
Blimey, Ronnie looks scary now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 08:02:37 PM
Those 4 frames were a bit quicker than our 4 Ralph.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 08:04:15 PM
Those 4 frames were a bit quicker than our 4 Ralph.

I was just thinking that Tom - they'll be paying a lot less for the lights.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 08:07:15 PM
Those 4 frames were a bit quicker than our 4 Ralph.

I was just thinking that Tom - they'll be paying a lot less for the lights.

I bet they don't know about the train with the observation car or Les Redballs though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 08:29:43 PM
Jimmy could do with either one of those hair-grips or a possibly a syrup trim.

Interesting rest-tekkers from the Thai leftie which actually makes a lot of sense and I'd wager might well become mainstream in a year or two.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 10:01:46 PM
Come on Sunny. Why deny the obvious child?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 10:34:53 PM

What a match this is.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 10:36:37 PM

Oh wow.......


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 10:37:13 PM
I've fallen off the settee twice.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 10:37:36 PM
Holy moly whatever next?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 10:38:29 PM
OMG!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 10:40:45 PM
So unfortunate....


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 10:44:14 PM
In snooker halls around the country tomorrow, hundreds of players will be doing robot impressions.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2017, 10:50:16 PM
Fuck it, I'm just going to stay on the floor.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 11:00:47 PM

Sport at its very best, that.

Wonderful TV too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 11:13:54 PM
The kid was so unlucky to kick that blue in - if it rattles in the jaws he probably wins the match.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 08, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
I'm pretty sure Martin Gould used to be a dealer - was it Walsall?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on December 08, 2017, 04:12:57 PM
I'm pretty sure Martin Gould used to be a dealer - was it Walsall?

He was a croupier no idea which casinos he worked in. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on December 08, 2017, 04:37:25 PM
The combination of Gould running so bad and Ronnie running well has stopped this game being much closer.  Gould has played some incredible stuff.  That last red he potted was amazing.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 08, 2017, 07:26:46 PM
Mark King is another one with the laying an egg stance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 08, 2017, 07:29:17 PM
Sean Murphy is a world-class gurner.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 08, 2017, 07:41:59 PM
Sean Murphy is a world-class gurner.

He does a great Stan Laurel impression.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 08, 2017, 09:24:11 PM
Sean Murphy is a world-class gurner.



(http://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2011/cc717ecd-9e53-4fef-a030-29b128f40644.jpg)



(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvLMlUUXYAERtlE.jpg)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 08, 2017, 10:52:59 PM
I reckon we could beat Day and Joyce Ralph.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 08, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
I reckon we could beat Day and Joyce Ralph.

It's been a painful watch.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 08, 2017, 11:47:34 PM
Win or lose, that was an amazing pink under pressure.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 09, 2017, 12:01:19 AM
I reckon we could beat Day and Joyce Ralph.

It's been a painful watch.

Speaking of painful my rib is still killing me - I reckon I've torn an intercostal - fancy getting injured playing snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
I reckon we could beat Day and Joyce Ralph.

It's been a painful watch.

Speaking of painful my rib is still killing me - I reckon I've torn an intercostal - fancy getting injured playing snooker.


I could have got a great photograph if you had been stretchered off.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: peejaytwo on December 09, 2017, 09:10:00 AM
I couldn't believe Joyce turned down a cut back red from near the black spot in the final frame. The cue ball was going to baulk as well. He got very defensive and I think that gave Day a boost tp try and win it as opposed to Joyce not going for the win.
I took a photo of the cue tubes when I played on Thursday, will post later.
Great thread btw.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 09, 2017, 09:28:58 AM
I couldn't believe Joyce turned down a cut back red from near the black spot in the final frame. The cue ball was going to baulk as well. He got very defensive and I think that gave Day a boost tp try and win it as opposed to Joyce not going for the win.
I took a photo of the cue tubes when I played on Thursday, will post later.
Great thread btw.

Yup, agree.

A few more threads like this & blonde would be just fine.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 12:05:53 PM
I couldn't believe Joyce turned down a cut back red from near the black spot in the final frame. The cue ball was going to baulk as well. He got very defensive and I think that gave Day a boost tp try and win it as opposed to Joyce not going for the win.
I took a photo of the cue tubes when I played on Thursday, will post later.
Great thread btw.


Yes. Day was trying to win it while Joyce was trying not to lose it.




Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 12:06:34 PM
I fancy Maguire will make a Match of it today. I would have a little tenner on him if I could get 4/1


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 09, 2017, 01:13:25 PM
I fancy Maguire will make a Match of it today. I would have a little tenner on him if I could get 4/1

The only way you'll get 4/1 is if Ronnie wins the first frame.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 01:13:47 PM
What does Jimmy keep looking at?

While he's punditing he keeps glancing at something that's up near the ceiling on the other side of the studio.

Is there a telly with racing on or something?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 01:21:53 PM
Who the fudge is Rachel Stringer, what does she have to do with snooker and why doesn't she have a wiki page?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 01:46:41 PM
This first frame is such a biggie.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 02:19:19 PM
 :P


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 02:20:58 PM
What a frame!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 09, 2017, 03:47:16 PM

Ronnie = sheer genius.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: peejaytwo on December 09, 2017, 04:33:20 PM
[imgcues]http://snooker cues.JPG[/img]



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: peejaytwo on December 09, 2017, 04:41:12 PM
well that hasn't worked, how do I upload the photo?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 09, 2017, 05:13:21 PM
well that hasn't worked, how do I upload the photo?

I am a rank amateur at this sort of thing but just stick mine in "my photos" then open additional options bottom left and browse then open the file.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 06:04:14 PM

Ronnie = sheer genius.

Commentator - He's brilliant with his right hand, he's brilliant with his left hand and he's brilliant with the rest.

Mrs Red, (totally serious) "How many hands has he got?"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 09, 2017, 06:28:04 PM

God bless Mrs Red.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: peejaytwo on December 09, 2017, 07:30:20 PM
File too large. Will try again when on laptop.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 09, 2017, 07:56:45 PM
Is Dennis Taylor becoming the Peter Alliss of snooker comms?

I just discovered that Willie Thorne was recently axed by auntie after thirty-odd years on the firm.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2017, 08:00:18 PM
Is Dennis Taylor becoming the Peter Alliss of snooker comms?



"Back in my day it was one foot in the D".


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 10, 2017, 11:17:08 AM





I forgot to mention that after our snooker match Ralph fed me in ox tail and taters followed by ice cream. Delicious!

I bet they don't get that at the Barbican.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 10, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
If O'Sullivan wins the first frame, what price should Murphy be?



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 10, 2017, 12:34:22 PM
If O'Sullivan wins the first frame, what price should Murphy be?



Murphy is 7/4 or 15/8 pre match, so not much different - maybe 2/1?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 10, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
If O'Sullivan wins the first frame, what price should Murphy be?



Murphy is 7/4 or 15/8 pre match, so not much different - maybe 2/1?


7/4 looks like a good price now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 10, 2017, 01:31:14 PM
Ooh! Missing that black could be a huge mistake.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 10, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
If O'Sullivan wins the first frame, what price should Murphy be?



Murphy is 7/4 or 15/8 pre match, so not much different - maybe 2/1?


7/4 looks like a good price now.

After Murphy took the first and looked like winning the 2nd, he was in to 13/10, and when it went 1-1 he was 13/8.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 10, 2017, 01:42:56 PM
Backed Murphy at 2/1


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 10, 2017, 01:55:56 PM
I know they've just started but every frame seems to have exaggerated importance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 10, 2017, 03:49:07 PM
How much bottle did Murphy show on that last black?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 10, 2017, 08:47:00 PM
I think Ronnie told Dennis Taylor in no uncertain terms where to stick his circle.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 16, 2017, 03:32:20 PM
Anyone watching Trump/Cao?

What a great frame this 5th one is, Cao's tactical ability is astonishing for one so young.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 16, 2017, 03:41:30 PM
Wow! What a pot on that pressure black. I did a round of applause.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 16, 2017, 03:53:03 PM
Anyone watching Trump/Cao?

What a great frame this 5th one is, Cao's tactical ability is astonishing for one so young.

Yet another great young Chinese player.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 17, 2017, 10:40:27 AM
Anyone watching Trump/Cao?

What a great frame this 5th one is, Cao's tactical ability is astonishing for one so young.

Cao v Robertson should be a great final.

Cao has an amazing temperament & ability for one so young.

And as Methuselah mentioned, Tal's WC tip, Robertson, seems to be on his A game again, & looks formidable.

Well worth watching.





Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 17, 2017, 10:45:40 AM

Been watching 3 sporting events.

1) Ashes Test.

Terrible effort by England, but Australia are a joy to watch, & cricket has such rich tradition. Trying to think of another top level sport where both teams wear the same colours. Any Americans who stumbles across cricket must get very confused. One of the world's great sporting events though.

2) Scottish Open Snooker. 

Love to see the etiquette of snooker. Players declare fouls against themselves, dress nice & smart, the Referee is all formal & proper, the scores are announced on the assumption that we are grown-ups, & the audience are wonderfully respectful, keeping perfectly quiet when players are on a shot. 

3) World Darts.

........


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 10:58:38 AM

Been watching 3 sporting events.

1) Ashes Test.

Terrible effort by England, but Australia are a joy to watch, & cricket has such rich tradition. Trying to think of another top level sport where both teams wear the same colours. Any Americans who stumbles across cricket must get very confused. One of the world's great sporting events though.

2) Scottish Open Snooker. 

Love to see the etiquette of snooker. Players declare fouls against themselves, dress nice & smart, the Referee is all formal & proper, the scores are announced on the assumption that we are grown-ups, & the audience are wonderfully respectful, keeping perfectly quiet when players are on a shot. 

3) World Darts.

........


To be fair, I'm sure dart players foul themselves too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 01:21:22 PM
Have you seen that mark on Chew Your Pen's cue? Apparently it's there to show him where to put his bridge hand.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 17, 2017, 01:37:18 PM
Have you seen that mark on Chew Your Pen's cue? Apparently it's there to show him where to put his bridge hand.

Yes. Never seen such a thing before.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 17, 2017, 01:41:29 PM

And after he seemed to have stolen the frame in spectacular fashion, coming back from 0-65, he somehow misses the simplest black ever.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 01:44:15 PM
Yes, he missed one in almost identical circumstances against Trump (I think it was) yesterday.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 01:48:50 PM
With yesterdays one he stayed down on the shot for so long before striking I thought I had inadvertently paused the telly.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 17, 2017, 01:58:58 PM
It all stemmed from missing position on the brown as he never regained perfect shape after that and all those tough shots finally took their toll on the black.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 17, 2017, 02:03:55 PM
....and suddenly, just like that, he switches from right handed to left handed.

I have a feeling he was sticking it in Robertson's eye, after the Aussie celebrated nicking the previous frame with that unseemly and inappropriate yelp. It's snooker, not darts.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 02:05:45 PM
....and suddenly, just like that, he switches from right handed to left handed.

I have a feeling he was sticking it in Robertson's eye, after the Aussie celebrated nicking the previous frame with that unseemly and inappropriate yelp. It's snooker, not darts.


I went from neutral to pro Cao at that very moment.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 17, 2017, 02:10:46 PM
....and suddenly, just like that, he switches from right handed to left handed.

I have a feeling he was sticking it in Robertson's eye, after the Aussie celebrated nicking the previous frame with that unseemly and inappropriate yelp. It's snooker, not darts.

That was one of the things that put me off Ebdon as a player - those constant "come on"'s at maximum volume.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 17, 2017, 02:12:20 PM
....and suddenly, just like that, he switches from right handed to left handed.

I have a feeling he was sticking it in Robertson's eye, after the Aussie celebrated nicking the previous frame with that unseemly and inappropriate yelp. It's snooker, not darts.

That was one of the things that put me off Ebdon as a player - those constant "come on"'s at maximum volume.

Yes, we don't want snooker devalued by that nonsense.

Maybe a bit of a celebration after winning the final, but not at 1-1.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 02:17:03 PM
....and suddenly, just like that, he switches from right handed to left handed.

I have a feeling he was sticking it in Robertson's eye, after the Aussie celebrated nicking the previous frame with that unseemly and inappropriate yelp. It's snooker, not darts.

That was one of the things that put me off Ebdon as a player - those constant "come on"'s at maximum volume.

Yes, we don't want snooker devalued by that nonsense.

Maybe a bit of a celebration after winning the final, but not at 1-1.


Give it 5 years and snooker will be totally inscrutable.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 09:31:03 PM
If Cao loses this match he will never recover from it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 17, 2017, 09:56:44 PM

Go Cao, hold your nerve mate.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: atdc21 on December 17, 2017, 10:09:08 PM
'' hes not going to miss this black''
''hes got it''
''hes missed''


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 17, 2017, 10:09:42 PM
Just got 2/1 Cau for a couple of shekels on betty for this decider.

Massive price - come on Cau.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 10:12:05 PM
(http://worldwide-web.com/JeffreyBabad/Simpsons/Apu/apu2.gif)





Oh my various Gods.....


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 17, 2017, 10:22:13 PM
Robertson making a good case for a shot-clock..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: atdc21 on December 17, 2017, 10:24:37 PM
yeah.....not like its 8 all in a final or anything  :)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 17, 2017, 10:26:37 PM
yeah.....not like its 8 all in a final or anything  :)


I agree with Ade. Cao should never have taken that red to centre.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: atdc21 on December 17, 2017, 10:31:44 PM
Good match, shame to watch the young lad crumble like that, but Robertson still had to do it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 17, 2017, 10:33:22 PM

Jeez, these interviewers.

"You just lost, how does it feel?"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: atdc21 on December 17, 2017, 10:33:32 PM
What is the point in these interviews straight after, fookin retard questions. 8-4 uplost 9-8....''how do u feel''


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 14, 2018, 11:54:34 PM

The Masters Snooker had started, usually an enjoyable watch.

Luca Brecel turned up in the arena with TWO cues - one for potting, the other for defensive shots. Not sure I've ever seen that before.

A recording of the game is currently being shown on BBC2. Virgo is commentating though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 15, 2018, 08:55:54 AM






Williams v Selby was a classic.
The kick that Selby got when the score was 5-3 undoubtedly cost him the match. He must have been gutted but didn't bat an outward eyelid.

I loved it when Williams stole the cue ball. Everyone knew except the referee.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 15, 2018, 08:59:00 AM

The Masters Snooker had started, usually an enjoyable watch.

Luca Brecel turned up in the arena with TWO cues - one for potting, the other for defensive shots. Not sure I've ever seen that before.

A recording of the game is currently being shown on BBC2. Virgo is commentating though.


Didn't catch the Brecel match but I'll have to see it now. Two cues sounds like a load of bollocks to me.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 15, 2018, 11:03:45 AM

The Masters Snooker had started, usually an enjoyable watch.

Luca Brecel turned up in the arena with TWO cues - one for potting, the other for defensive shots. Not sure I've ever seen that before.

A recording of the game is currently being shown on BBC2. Virgo is commentating though.


Didn't catch the Brecel match but I'll have to see it now. Two cues sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

Don't bother, nothing of note, just watch the intro, as he walks into the arena, holding 2 cues.


https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/even-with-two-cues-luca-brecel-couldnt-beat-mark-allen-at-the-masters


A very odd thing indeed, don't think I've ever seen that before.

Oh, & in case Marky147 is reading this, he only used 1 at a time.




Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 15, 2018, 11:08:17 AM






Williams v Selby was a classic.
The kick that Selby got when the score was 5-3 undoubtedly cost him the match. He must have been gutted but didn't bat an outward eyelid.

I loved it when Williams stole the cue ball. Everyone knew except the referee.

Tremendous entertainment, & a lovely spirit between the 2 players, with plenty of dry humour on display.

Did you see the safety shot that Williams made a mess of, but somehow ended up perfect? Some wry smiles were exchanged.

I think Williams is playing the best snooker of his career relative to his current opponents. The game has moved on since his glory days, but so has his ability.  

Do you remember when he used to turn up with the likes of Hendry & Docherty at those £200 freezeouts in Cardiff & Swansea?

I like him a lot.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 15, 2018, 12:04:14 PM

The Masters Snooker had started, usually an enjoyable watch.

Luca Brecel turned up in the arena with TWO cues - one for potting, the other for defensive shots. Not sure I've ever seen that before.

A recording of the game is currently being shown on BBC2. Virgo is commentating though.


Didn't catch the Brecel match but I'll have to see it now. Two cues sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

Don't bother, nothing of note, just watch the intro, as he walks into the arena, holding 2 cues.


https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/even-with-two-cues-luca-brecel-couldnt-beat-mark-allen-at-the-masters


A very odd thing indeed, don't think I've ever seen that before.

Oh, & in case Marky147 is reading this, he only used 1 at a time.




9-ball pool players regularly bring three cues with them to the table but they all have specific jobs.

A breaking cue which is usually heavier and has a very hard tip, a jump-cue which is half the size of a normal cue, and the playing cue.

I've never seen a snooker player bring more than one and I have come across many eccentric and odd-ball players over the years.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 15, 2018, 02:04:25 PM

The Masters Snooker had started, usually an enjoyable watch.

Luca Brecel turned up in the arena with TWO cues - one for potting, the other for defensive shots. Not sure I've ever seen that before.

A recording of the game is currently being shown on BBC2. Virgo is commentating though.


Didn't catch the Brecel match but I'll have to see it now. Two cues sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

Don't bother, nothing of note, just watch the intro, as he walks into the arena, holding 2 cues.


https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/even-with-two-cues-luca-brecel-couldnt-beat-mark-allen-at-the-masters


A very odd thing indeed, don't think I've ever seen that before.

Oh, & in case Marky147 is reading this, he only used 1 at a time.




9-ball pool players regularly bring three cues with them to the table but they all have specific jobs.

A breaking cue which is usually heavier and has a very hard tip, a jump-cue which is half the size of a normal cue, and the playing cue.

I've never seen a snooker player bring more than one and I have come across many eccentric and odd-ball players over the years.

I can't imagine what type of shot you would use a different cue for at snooker.

*Moves Brecel slightly closer to the 'pretentious tosser' box. *


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 15, 2018, 07:06:27 PM
Just saw a great t shirt slogan in the crowd.


           Trump

Make snooker great again.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 16, 2018, 01:39:05 PM
Ronnie O'Sullivan though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 16, 2018, 02:22:31 PM
I wonder how many mute buttons are pressed each time Colin Murray opens his yap.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2018, 03:02:24 PM
I wonder how many mute buttons are pressed each time Colin Murray opens his yap.

Mine certainly is. He drives me abso nuts.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 16, 2018, 03:06:51 PM
He doesn't seem to be on my telly.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Geo the Sarge on January 16, 2018, 03:11:21 PM
He doesn't seem to be on my telly.

It's also being shown on Eurosport as well as BBC

Geo


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 16, 2018, 03:14:23 PM
He doesn't seem to be on my telly.

It's also being shown on Eurosport as well as BBC

Geo

I know Geo. I was pulling the leg of the people who watch the channel that they have to mute.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Geo the Sarge on January 16, 2018, 03:20:11 PM
He doesn't seem to be on my telly.

It's also being shown on Eurosport as well as BBC

Geo

I know Geo. I was pulling the leg of the people who watch the channel that they have to mute.

Haha, showing my age being whooshed by the Dog.

Geo


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2018, 03:39:11 PM
He doesn't seem to be on my telly.

So you've got Virgo then?

Rock &  hard place, that.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 16, 2018, 03:46:54 PM
He doesn't seem to be on my telly.

So you've got Virgo then?

Rock &  hard place, that.

Life is full of trade offs.

I open this thread to see what Ralph has put and...  Well, you get my drift. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 16, 2018, 06:02:25 PM
He doesn't seem to be on my telly.

So you've got Virgo then?

Rock &  hard place, that.

Life is full of trade offs.

I open this thread to see what Ralph has put and...  Well, you get my drift. 

How very dare you!

I always think Virgo missed his calling as a ventriloquist as his lips never seem to move.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 18, 2018, 02:36:08 PM
What a laconic, almost careless cue action mark Allen has.

Ronnie seems to have vowed to express every thought through facial expressions.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on January 18, 2018, 02:37:13 PM
What a laconic, almost careless cue action mark Allen has.

Ronnie seems to have vowed to express every thought through facial expressions.

Huge under achiever for me in his career.  Lovely to watch on his day.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bagel on January 20, 2018, 04:30:24 PM
john parrots eyebrows are strange


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 20, 2018, 04:55:32 PM
john parrots eyebrows are strange


If he dyed them yellow he could get sponsored by McDonald's.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 20, 2018, 08:08:22 PM
Comparatively low standard of snooker this week with more than it's fair share of complete dross.

The long swan-neck rest which bore a passing resemblance to Robin Hood's bow rejected by Mark Allen in favour of the old rest stacked on spider tecnique was a highlight.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 20, 2018, 09:45:15 PM
Comparatively low standard of snooker this week with more than it's fair share of complete dross.

The long swan-neck rest which bore a passing resemblance to Robin Hood's bow rejected by Mark Allen in favour of the old rest stacked on spider tecnique was a highlight.

With Higgins comfortably despatched, should now be a good final between Wilson and Allen?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 12:09:14 PM
Comparatively low standard of snooker this week with more than it's fair share of complete dross.

The long swan-neck rest which bore a passing resemblance to Robin Hood's bow rejected by Mark Allen in favour of the old rest stacked on spider tecnique was a highlight.

I actually enjoy the low standard matches when players are struggling. For me it adds to the tension & drama. Lots of ooh and ahh moments.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 12:10:07 PM
Comparatively low standard of snooker this week with more than it's fair share of complete dross.

The long swan-neck rest which bore a passing resemblance to Robin Hood's bow rejected by Mark Allen in favour of the old rest stacked on spider tecnique was a highlight.

With Higgins comfortably despatched, should now be a good final between Wilson and Allen?

Yep. I wouldn't like to call it.

I think Allen will win it though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 12:11:57 PM
I've been toying with this idea for a while.

What if they were to make the foul shot penalty 16 points?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: kukushkin88 on January 21, 2018, 12:15:59 PM
I've been toying with this idea for a while.

What if they were to make the foul shot penalty 16 points?

My instinct was bad idea, then I thought and thought some more, I quite like it. Can we revert to 4 on the colours?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 12:29:07 PM
I've been toying with this idea for a while.

What if they were to make the foul shot penalty 16 points?

My instinct was bad idea, then I thought and thought some more, I quite like it. Can we revert to 4 on the colours?


Hmm... I'm not sure lol.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
There are pros and cons to reverting to 4 points on the colours.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 01:29:32 PM
What a canny old bird Barry Hearn is. I would vote him in as PM.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 21, 2018, 03:18:15 PM
I've been toying with this idea for a while.

What if they were to make the foul shot penalty 16 points?

I like the "ball in hand" rule for any foul that they use in 9-ball pool.

I reckon that would work for snooker too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 03:23:47 PM
I've been toying with this idea for a while.

What if they were to make the foul shot penalty 16 points?

I like the "ball in hand" rule for any foul that they use in 9-ball pool.

I reckon that would work for snooker too.


Yes, that would be interesting too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 21, 2018, 06:40:59 PM
Interesting match this - I think Wilson is the better player(more finesse than Allen) but he needs to hold his nerve to show it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 07:22:58 PM
When Wilson delivers the cue he does it in two stages. He pushes it forward the first couple of inches really slowly and then accelerates to the required speed.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 21, 2018, 07:48:05 PM
What's so unusual about a 40-minute frame?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 07:52:52 PM
They've obviously never seen us play Ralph.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2018, 09:13:29 PM
Interesting match this - I think Wilson is the better player(more finesse than Allen) but he needs to hold his nerve to show it.

Looks like his head has gone.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 09:29:16 PM
Here's a quiz question for you. Why so many wasps and flies at Ally Pally at this time of year?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2018, 09:30:38 PM

What looked to me like an absurd fluke snooker behind the yellow gives Wilson a chance to get his head back in gear, and he took his chance well, so that might settle him down.

Not really fussed who wins, two smashing players. Think Wilson has a terrific future.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 10:01:42 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a better, more consistent long ball potter than Wilson.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2018, 10:12:23 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a better, more consistent long ball potter than Wilson.

Just as I read that he missed that red by a mile.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 21, 2018, 10:17:16 PM
Bloody noisy crowd these Ally Pallyans.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on February 03, 2018, 12:24:11 PM
I fancy the gritty Graeme Dott to give Sean Murphy a very tough match in their semi-final today.

If Murphy has one of his not infrequent careless days 9/4 Dotty looks like decent value to me.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 03, 2018, 03:02:14 PM
"Anything but straight..  Oh, it's just off straight, it would have been better if it was straight"


"He can only leave the one he's playing.... He's left a choice of reds."


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 03, 2018, 04:27:17 PM
I fancy the gritty Graeme Dott to give Sean Murphy a very tough match in their semi-final today.

If Murphy has one of his not infrequent careless days 9/4 Dotty looks like decent value to me.

Great shout Ralphy boy.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 04, 2018, 07:05:58 PM
Graeme Dott. Like a snooker player, only smaller.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 05, 2018, 09:05:02 AM

Mark Williams sauntered to a 9-1 victory over Dott in the German Masters - what an absolute delight he is to watch.

He has such delicate touch, rarely using power shots, & can "dolly" long balls in from the baulk area without any action whatsoever on the cue ball, a remarkable skill.

He has two extraordinary party tricks, too - the "under body" shot, and the one handed shot, mainly used to escape from snookers. Not sure too many others do both.

He did the one handed thing yesterday - other hand braced against his right knee - to escape from a very tricky snooker, trying to glance the red on the way back from the top cushion. He missed narrowly twice, & was adjudged to have missed a third time, but Ronnie - on commentary duties, & very good at it too - squeaked "he hit that, he hit that".

Slow motion replays apparently showed it had glanced the red so finely that I could not see the red move even in slow mo. In fact I don't think it did move, it was that fine.   

Mark is an absolute joy to watch, not sure any televised sports suit TV better, & Mark is a real cool guy.

If his head is in the right place come April, he'd not be the worst bet if reasonable odds are available.

He has huge feet, too.


(http://i.imgur.com/VFWfFtC.jpg) (https://imgur.com/VFWfFtC)


(http://i.imgur.com/9uBUCxg.jpg) (https://imgur.com/9uBUCxg)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 08, 2018, 05:39:20 PM
I've stumbled upon something called snooker shootout.

Timers, gongs, whistles, players running, people shouting....

What?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2018, 06:09:35 PM

Mark Williams sauntered to a 9-1 victory over Dott in the German Masters - what an absolute delight he is to watch.

He has such delicate touch, rarely using power shots, & can "dolly" long balls in from the baulk area without any action whatsoever on the cue ball, a remarkable skill.

He has two extraordinary party tricks, too - the "under body" shot, and the one handed shot, mainly used to escape from snookers. Not sure too many others do both.

He did the one handed thing yesterday - other hand braced against his right knee - to escape from a very tricky snooker, trying to glance the red on the way back from the top cushion. He missed narrowly twice, & was adjudged to have missed a third time, but Ronnie - on commentary duties, & very good at it too - squeaked "he hit that, he hit that".

Slow motion replays apparently showed it had glanced the red so finely that I could not see the red move even in slow mo. In fact I don't think it did move, it was that fine.   

Mark is an absolute joy to watch, not sure any televised sports suit TV better, & Mark is a real cool guy.

If his head is in the right place come April, he'd not be the worst bet if reasonable odds are available.

He has huge feet, too.


(http://i.imgur.com/VFWfFtC.jpg) (https://imgur.com/VFWfFtC)


(http://i.imgur.com/9uBUCxg.jpg) (https://imgur.com/9uBUCxg)

Had a cob on when he came to my old man's tournament with Iwan, and Sealey bashed him up in the cash game :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 08, 2018, 11:20:34 PM
I've stumbled upon something called snooker shootout.

Timers, gongs, whistles, players running, people shouting....

What?


I've watched it for a while now and it's tolerable except for the audience shouting and whistling.

I think I can manage without it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 10, 2018, 12:15:48 AM
I cant stand the shoot out. It's not the noise i dislike, its the fact the crowd arnt funny at all.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 10, 2018, 08:41:41 AM
I've stumbled upon something called snooker shootout.

Timers, gongs, whistles, players running, people shouting....

What?


I've watched it for a while now and it's tolerable except for the audience shouting and whistling.

I think I can manage without it.

I tried to watch it, but, for me, it was unbearable.

Some ingredients of snooker - proper snooker - are so important, & without them, the game is nothing.

Here we had players - & referees - wearing silly football-style shirts, disrespect from the crowd, & the game played at a ridiculous pace with no time or room for thinking or delicate shots.

It's like No Limit Omaha compared to Pot Limit. All the beauty of the game is removed.

I suppose it's a generation thing, but they'll have to manage without my interest or patronage.

Such a shame that so many beautiful, pure sports are being ruined.  

I grew up watching 5 day Test Cricket - few things are more enthralling - but the game is now all about mass appeal & dumbing down. Any time now you can expect to see cricketers playing under floodlights, wearing coloured pyjamas, & - you wont believe this, but it'll happen - exploding bails that light up.

It's all shite.  



(http://i.imgur.com/GLHHycc.png) (https://imgur.com/GLHHycc)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on February 10, 2018, 09:26:23 AM
I've stumbled upon something called snooker shootout.

Timers, gongs, whistles, players running, people shouting....

What?


I've watched it for a while now and it's tolerable except for the audience shouting and whistling.

I think I can manage without it.

I tried to watch it, but, for me, it was unbearable.

Some ingredients of snooker - proper snooker - are so important, & without them, the game is nothing.

Here we had players - & referees - wearing silly football-style shirts, disrespect from the crowd, & the game played at a ridiculous pace with no time or room for thinking or delicate shots.

It's like No Limit Omaha compared to Pot Limit. All the beauty of the game is removed.

I suppose it's a generation thing, but they'll have to manage without my interest or patronage.

Such a shame that so many beautiful, pure sports are being ruined.  

I grew up watching 5 day Test Cricket - few things are more enthralling - but the game is now all about mass appeal & dumbing down. Any time now you can expect to see cricketers playing under floodlights, wearing coloured pyjamas, & - you wont believe this, but it'll happen - exploding bails that light up.

It's all shite.  



(http://i.imgur.com/GLHHycc.png) (https://imgur.com/GLHHycc)

They'll be having shot clocks in poker next.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 10, 2018, 09:34:37 AM

Now you are being silly Tal.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on February 10, 2018, 09:36:48 AM
I watch it, in part because i am convinced the strategy and tactics of the players is all wrong (much more time to be defensive and not thrash around than they think)

but watch it with the sound down, the boorish audience is a real turn off bit like the plonkers at the darts


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 10, 2018, 10:09:15 AM
I watch it, in part because i am convinced the strategy and tactics of the players is all wrong (much more time to be defensive and not thrash around than they think)

but watch it with the sound down, the boorish audience is a real turn off bit like the plonkers at the darts

Yes, it amuses that the players sort of rush around the table in the comedic manner they do. As for the audience, no comment, for fear I may further upset Darts fans.

Bye the bye, wrong place to post this, but not sure where the right place is.

Tighty writes the 6 Nations Reviews & suggestions over on B-E, & it's completely free to view.

His knowledge of RU never ceases to amaze, & he writes so beautifully. 

Go look at this weekend's write-ups, they are unbelievably good. I suppose, to some, all that matters is whether the tips win or not, but for me, I really don't care, I just love to see high quality stuff. Ambo has stuck up a nice 12/1 shot (or was 12/1) in the weekly Free Tip, too. Last week's free tip was a Tighty football bet which hosed up at 9/4/. oioi


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: kukushkin88 on February 10, 2018, 12:19:02 PM
I watch it, in part because i am convinced the strategy and tactics of the players is all wrong (much more time to be defensive and not thrash around than they think)

but watch it with the sound down, the boorish audience is a real turn off bit like the plonkers at the darts

Yes, it amuses that the players sort of rush around the table in the comedic manner they do. As for the audience, no comment, for fear I may further upset Darts fans.

Bye the bye, wrong place to post this, but not sure where the right place is.

Tighty writes the 6 Nations Reviews & suggestions over on B-E, & it's completely free to view.

His knowledge of RU never ceases to amaze, & he writes so beautifully. 

Go look at this weekend's write-ups, they are unbelievably good. I suppose, to some, all that matters is whether the tips win or not, but for me, I really don't care, I just love to see high quality stuff. Ambo has stuck up a nice 12/1 shot (or was 12/1) in the weekly Free Tip, too. Last week's free tip was a Tighty football bet which hosed up at 9/4/. oioi

Agree with everything, especially strategy shortcomings, Mark Williams who professes to hate the format, always seemed closest to getting it right. The fans are horrible, really dreadful and racist. Kind of like "look I'm making fun of someone from an ethnici minority but it's OK because everyone (including them) is laughing."

Unless I massively misunderstood something, the "hosed up bet" actually lost. Unimportant with regard to whether it was a good bet but seems reasonable to correct. Let me know if I misunderstood. The weekly free bet is in my view a very generous and valuable resource, many thanks to all concerned.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: booder on February 10, 2018, 12:21:03 PM
I've stumbled upon something called snooker shootout.

Timers, gongs, whistles, players running, people shouting....

What?


I've watched it for a while now and it's tolerable except for the audience shouting and whistling.

I think I can manage without it.

I tried to watch it, but, for me, it was unbearable.

Some ingredients of snooker - proper snooker - are so important, & without them, the game is nothing.

Here we had players - & referees - wearing silly football-style shirts, disrespect from the crowd, & the game played at a ridiculous pace with no time or room for thinking or delicate shots.

It's like No Limit Omaha compared to Pot Limit. All the beauty of the game is removed.

I suppose it's a generation thing, but they'll have to manage without my interest or patronage.

Such a shame that so many beautiful, pure sports are being ruined.  

I grew up watching 5 day Test Cricket - few things are more enthralling - but the game is now all about mass appeal & dumbing down. Any time now you can expect to see cricketers playing under floodlights, wearing coloured pyjamas, & - you wont believe this, but it'll happen - exploding bails that light up.

It's all shite.  



(http://i.imgur.com/GLHHycc.png) (https://imgur.com/GLHHycc)

 :goodpost: ;iagree;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 10, 2018, 03:46:23 PM
I watch it, in part because i am convinced the strategy and tactics of the players is all wrong (much more time to be defensive and not thrash around than they think)

but watch it with the sound down, the boorish audience is a real turn off bit like the plonkers at the darts

Yes, it amuses that the players sort of rush around the table in the comedic manner they do. As for the audience, no comment, for fear I may further upset Darts fans.

Bye the bye, wrong place to post this, but not sure where the right place is.

Tighty writes the 6 Nations Reviews & suggestions over on B-E, & it's completely free to view.

His knowledge of RU never ceases to amaze, & he writes so beautifully.  

Go look at this weekend's write-ups, they are unbelievably good. I suppose, to some, all that matters is whether the tips win or not, but for me, I really don't care, I just love to see high quality stuff. Ambo has stuck up a nice 12/1 shot (or was 12/1) in the weekly Free Tip, too. Last week's free tip was a Tighty football bet which hosed up at 9/4/. oioi

Agree with everything, especially strategy shortcomings, Mark Williams who professes to hate the format, always seemed closest to getting it right. The fans are horrible, really dreadful and racist. Kind of like "look I'm making fun of someone from an ethnici minority but it's OK because everyone (including them) is laughing."

Unless I massively misunderstood something, the "hosed up bet" actually lost. Unimportant with regard to whether it was a good bet but seems reasonable to correct. Let me know if I misunderstood. The weekly free bet is in my view a very generous and valuable resource, many thanks to all concerned.

The hosed up bet - correct, it was 2 weeks ago, (5/2), Coventry in the FA cup away at MK Dons, not last week, as I stated. Apologies.

Today's free tip just won comfortably at 12/1, too. Not bad for a free tip.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: kukushkin88 on February 10, 2018, 03:55:12 PM
I watch it, in part because i am convinced the strategy and tactics of the players is all wrong (much more time to be defensive and not thrash around than they think)

but watch it with the sound down, the boorish audience is a real turn off bit like the plonkers at the darts

Yes, it amuses that the players sort of rush around the table in the comedic manner they do. As for the audience, no comment, for fear I may further upset Darts fans.

Bye the bye, wrong place to post this, but not sure where the right place is.

Tighty writes the 6 Nations Reviews & suggestions over on B-E, & it's completely free to view.

His knowledge of RU never ceases to amaze, & he writes so beautifully.  

Go look at this weekend's write-ups, they are unbelievably good. I suppose, to some, all that matters is whether the tips win or not, but for me, I really don't care, I just love to see high quality stuff. Ambo has stuck up a nice 12/1 shot (or was 12/1) in the weekly Free Tip, too. Last week's free tip was a Tighty football bet which hosed up at 9/4/. oioi

Agree with everything, especially strategy shortcomings, Mark Williams who professes to hate the format, always seemed closest to getting it right. The fans are horrible, really dreadful and racist. Kind of like "look I'm making fun of someone from an ethnici minority but it's OK because everyone (including them) is laughing."

Unless I massively misunderstood something, the "hosed up bet" actually lost. Unimportant with regard to whether it was a good bet but seems reasonable to correct. Let me know if I misunderstood. The weekly free bet is in my view a very generous and valuable resource, many thanks to all concerned.

The hosed up bet - correct, it was 2 weeks ago, (5/2), Coventry in the FA cup away at MK Dons, not last week, as I stated. Apologies.

Today's free tip just won comfortably at 12/1, too. Not bad for a free tip.

The overall record of that column must be massively in profit. They should change the name of that Newbury race to the 'Betting Emporium Benefit Hurdle'.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on February 10, 2018, 04:01:41 PM
I watch it, in part because i am convinced the strategy and tactics of the players is all wrong (much more time to be defensive and not thrash around than they think)

but watch it with the sound down, the boorish audience is a real turn off bit like the plonkers at the darts

Yes, it amuses that the players sort of rush around the table in the comedic manner they do. As for the audience, no comment, for fear I may further upset Darts fans.

Bye the bye, wrong place to post this, but not sure where the right place is.

Tighty writes the 6 Nations Reviews & suggestions over on B-E, & it's completely free to view.

His knowledge of RU never ceases to amaze, & he writes so beautifully.  

Go look at this weekend's write-ups, they are unbelievably good. I suppose, to some, all that matters is whether the tips win or not, but for me, I really don't care, I just love to see high quality stuff. Ambo has stuck up a nice 12/1 shot (or was 12/1) in the weekly Free Tip, too. Last week's free tip was a Tighty football bet which hosed up at 9/4/. oioi

Agree with everything, especially strategy shortcomings, Mark Williams who professes to hate the format, always seemed closest to getting it right. The fans are horrible, really dreadful and racist. Kind of like "look I'm making fun of someone from an ethnici minority but it's OK because everyone (including them) is laughing."

Unless I massively misunderstood something, the "hosed up bet" actually lost. Unimportant with regard to whether it was a good bet but seems reasonable to correct. Let me know if I misunderstood. The weekly free bet is in my view a very generous and valuable resource, many thanks to all concerned.

The hosed up bet - correct, it was 2 weeks ago, (5/2), Coventry in the FA cup away at MK Dons, not last week, as I stated. Apologies.

Today's free tip just won comfortably at 12/1, too. Not bad for a free tip.

Even better for those who snaffled a little 14/1  ;sexybanana;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 19, 2018, 07:35:04 PM
Grand Prix. O'Sullivan vs Milkins, Clive Everton commentating. Clive does well considering he's 80. Still, I think he'll be in bed early tonight.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on February 19, 2018, 07:42:10 PM
Grand Prix. O'Sullivan vs Milkins, Clive Everton commentating. Clive does well considering he's 80. Still, I think he'll be in bed early tonight.

Clive Everton used to practice in Herbert Holt's club on the corner of Great Windmill St and Shaftsbury avenue in the late 1960's when I was busy misspending my youth.

He was a billiards player and practiced alone for hours but his wife sat watching and recording every shot he played prompted by him.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 19, 2018, 07:58:12 PM
Describe Milkins in one word.

I'm going for lackadaisical.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 21, 2018, 12:01:37 PM
Grand Prix. O'Sullivan vs Milkins, Clive Everton commentating. Clive does well considering he's 80. Still, I think he'll be in bed early tonight.

Clive Everton used to practice in Herbert Holt's club on the corner of Great Windmill St and Shaftsbury avenue in the late 1960's when I was busy misspending my youth.

He was a billiards player and practiced alone for hours but his wife sat watching and recording every shot he played prompted by him.

That's a nice Post, Ralph.

Clive Everton has always been my favourite Snooker commentator, just ahead of the late Jack Karnehm, the 2 of them streets ahead of any others.

He speaks so well, uses unusual & inventive language, & always refers to the players by their surname.

Multi-talented, too, author of many books, & at one time he was the coach of Jonah Barrington, the famous Squash Bloke.

He fell out with the BBC over something, not sure what, & TV coverage of snooker was never quite the same for me since. 

This World Grand Prix thing - best of 7, ugh - is much enhanced by listening to Clive, God bless him. I'd not be watching it were it not for Clive's commentary.

Incredibly, he is 80 years old.

(http://i.imgur.com/ufbxlZZ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ufbxlZZ)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on February 21, 2018, 04:00:04 PM
Grand Prix. O'Sullivan vs Milkins, Clive Everton commentating. Clive does well considering he's 80. Still, I think he'll be in bed early tonight.

Clive Everton used to practice in Herbert Holt's club on the corner of Great Windmill St and Shaftsbury avenue in the late 1960's when I was busy misspending my youth.

He was a billiards player and practiced alone for hours but his wife sat watching and recording every shot he played prompted by him.

That's a nice Post, Ralph.

Clive Everton has always been my favourite Snooker commentator, just ahead of the late Jack Karnehm, the 2 of them streets ahead of any others.

He speaks so well, uses unusual & inventive language, & always refers to the players by their surname.

Multi-talented, too, author of many books, & at one time he was the coach of Jonah Barrington, the famous Squash Bloke.

He fell out with the BBC over something, not sure what, & TV coverage of snooker was never quite the same for me since. 

This World Grand Prix thing - best of 7, ugh - is much enhanced by listening to Clive, God bless him. I'd not be watching it were it not for Clive's commentary.

Incredibly, he is 80 years old.

(http://i.imgur.com/ufbxlZZ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ufbxlZZ)


You've got me wondering now Tony - it might well have been Jack Karnehm practicing billiards at Herbert Holt's.

It was definitely one of them..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 21, 2018, 05:01:25 PM

^^^^

I fancy it is more likely to be Jack, though I'm just guessing.

Jack was a far better billiards player than Clive (by all accounts) & lived most of his life in North London.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 21, 2018, 09:34:37 PM
Ronnie's post match interview.

"There's only 4 or 5 players with any bottle, the rest of them...  what boat did they come on? They might as well get a job".

Classy Ron, classy.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 24, 2018, 10:09:59 PM
I don't like this girly ref's noisy shoes clumping about. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 24, 2018, 10:48:11 PM
I don't like this girly ref's noisy shoes clumping about. 

Leaving matters of such inconsequence aside, it's a great match, and hard to call a winner.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 24, 2018, 11:04:15 PM
I don't like this girly ref's noisy shoes clumping about. 

Leaving matters of such inconsequence aside, it's a great match, and hard to call a winner.


It's a fabulous match, the best of the competition so far IMO. The standard might not be as high as some of the others but I love the tension and drama of these tactical battles.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 24, 2018, 11:07:52 PM
I don't like this girly ref's noisy shoes clumping about. 

Leaving matters of such inconsequence aside, it's a great match, and hard to call a winner.


It's a fabulous match, the best of the competition so far IMO. The standard might not be as high as some of the others but I love the tension and drama of these tactical battles.

Yup. The quality of the safety play has been a joy to watch.

When Ding gets in amongst the balls, he has such deft and subtle touch.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 25, 2018, 12:22:29 AM

Very enjoyable that.

Not much between the two of them, but Ding probably just about deserved the win.

Selby's safety was inch perfect all match, he seemed to be able to lay it tight on the baulk cushion time after time.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 25, 2018, 01:12:27 PM
I've always admired Ronnie's ability but I don't like his personality.

Following his interviews during the Grand Prix, I've really tekn agin im. He's a tosser and I hope he loses.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 25, 2018, 03:28:58 PM

Talented tosser, though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on February 25, 2018, 03:43:05 PM
I've always admired Ronnie's ability but I don't like his personality.

Following his interviews during the Grand Prix, I've really tekn agin im. He's a tosser and I hope he loses.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/Yr4tj2ZFe40Sc/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on February 25, 2018, 05:55:35 PM
I've always admired Ronnie's ability but I don't like his personality.

Following his interviews during the Grand Prix, I've really tekn agin im. He's a tosser and I hope he loses.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/Yr4tj2ZFe40Sc/giphy.gif)

I hope he wasn't looking towards the girlie ref with the clumpy shoes at the time.

I also wish I could unsee that..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on February 25, 2018, 06:01:06 PM
No idea when it was, but at least it will take your mind off the football ;)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 25, 2018, 07:35:48 PM
 I'm already dreading O'Sullivans post match interview.

"No yeah, I didn't care if I won or lost y know what I mean. I'm not bovvered. I could av ad a nice rest"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 25, 2018, 07:56:38 PM

I curtailed my poker session so I could sit and watch an evening of quality snooker.

Turned on at 7.50pm and it was 9-3 and frame ball to Ronnie.

Tosser.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 25, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
I'm already dreading O'Sullivans post match interview.

"No yeah, I didn't care if I won or lost y know what I mean. I'm not bovvered. I could av ad a nice rest"

Nope, none of that.

Thought he was very gracious in victory, said nice things about Ding, never even asked the name of the boat he came over in or told him to get a job.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on February 25, 2018, 08:05:45 PM
I'm already dreading O'Sullivans post match interview.

"No yeah, I didn't care if I won or lost y know what I mean. I'm not bovvered. I could av ad a nice rest"

Nope, none of that.

Thought he was very gracious in victory, said nice things about Ding, never even asked the name of the boat he came over in or told him to get a job.

:D

He's after all Hendry's records.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on February 25, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
I'm already dreading O'Sullivans post match interview.

"No yeah, I didn't care if I won or lost y know what I mean. I'm not bovvered. I could av ad a nice rest"

Nope, none of that.

Thought he was very gracious in victory, said nice things about Ding, never even asked the name of the boat he came over in or told him to get a job.

:D

He's after all Hendry's records.

Fergal Sharkey, Runrig, Gerry Rafferty etc.?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 26, 2018, 01:14:31 PM
I don't like this girly ref's noisy shoes clumping about. 

Mr Tetchy Tosspot Tom will doubtless be pleased to know that in the Welsh Open match between Bingham and Zhe, the lady referee is wearing stiletto heels.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 26, 2018, 02:27:54 PM
I don't like this girly ref's noisy shoes clumping about. 

Mr Tetchy Tosspot Tom will doubtless be pleased to know that in the Welsh Open match between Bingham and Zhe, the lady referee is wearing stiletto heels.

If she could include a nice knee length skirt and some stockings with a seam up the back I will withdraw my objections.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 27, 2018, 01:04:44 PM
What price is King to beat Williams?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Longines on February 27, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
At 0-3 down he's 14/1. Or 1/150 Williams.

[  ] value there.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 28, 2018, 08:47:03 PM

Amazing frame in progress right now (Mark Williams v Mehta, Eurosport) which is well worth a watch.

No need to rush though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 28, 2018, 09:04:02 PM
Fascinating.Thanks for the heads up.

How long have they been in this state?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 28, 2018, 09:04:38 PM
Fascinating.Thanks for the heads up.

How long have they been in this state?

45 minutes.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 28, 2018, 09:04:55 PM

Noôooooooooo


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bobby1 on March 01, 2018, 12:28:40 AM

Amazing frame in progress right now (Mark Williams v Mehta, Eurosport) which is well worth a watch.

No need to rush though.

Don't think I've seen anything quite like that before. Williams has had a funny week Hasn't he?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2018, 08:24:29 AM

Amazing frame in progress right now (Mark Williams v Mehta, Eurosport) which is well worth a watch.

No need to rush though.

Don't think I've seen anything quite like that before. Williams has had a funny week Hasn't he?

It was really weird, wasn't it?

Those 5 reds & the black were stuck like that for 45 minutes.

One red got freed, but Williams, 71 behind & needing 1 snooker, could not pot it as every colour was tied up, & the black & pink were both stuck by the pocket where the 5 reds were.

I actually enjoyed every minute, but Neil Foulds & Ronnie were chuntering something shocking, & said the Ref needed to "do something". What, & why?

He's had a funny week, yes. Thought he kept his cool pretty well in this;



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/wales/43217734


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2018, 08:35:27 AM

I was really surprised to see several incidents following a "miss", where the balls needed replacing in their original position.

The camera cut to the lady "Marker", who had several monitors & freeze frames available to her so she could see where the balls originally were.

She was beckoning with her hand in the air to the referee.....

Up a bit...but more, left a bit - no, your left not my left ....that's it - up a bit - no down a bit.....bit more, whoa, too much....

Ugh, this is 2018 & they were faffing about like it was 1950. It was an embarrassment.

Just juxtapose 2 freeze-frames on top of each other & have a white circle where the ball should be, job done.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 01, 2018, 09:03:33 AM

Amazing frame in progress right now (Mark Williams v Mehta, Eurosport) which is well worth a watch.

No need to rush though.

Don't think I've seen anything quite like that before. Williams has had a funny week Hasn't he?

It was really weird, wasn't it?

Those 5 reds & the black were stuck like that for 45 minutes.

One red got freed, but Williams, 71 behind & needing 1 snooker, could not pot it as every colour was tied up, & the black & pink were both stuck by the pocket where the 5 reds were.

I actually enjoyed every minute, but Neil Foulds & Ronnie were chuntering something shocking, & said the Ref needed to "do something". What, & why?

He's had a funny week, yes. Thought he kept his cool pretty well in this;



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/wales/43217734

I reckon he's on the all time in all sports list for keeping his cool. Scandalous that Ronnie left him out of the 4 people in the history of snooker who had "bottle" list. He did it on purpose, of course.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bunnydas8888 on March 01, 2018, 11:08:00 AM

I was really surprised to see several incidents following a "miss", where the balls needed replacing in their original position.

The camera cut to the lady "Marker", who had several monitors & freeze frames available to her so she could see where the balls originally were.

She was beckoning with her hand in the air to the referee.....

Up a bit...but more, left a bit - no, your left not my left ....that's it - up a bit - no down a bit.....bit more, whoa, too much....

Ugh, this is 2018 & they were faffing about like it was 1950. It was an embarrassment.

Just juxtapose 2 freeze-frames on top of each other & have a white circle where the ball should be, job done.

In one of the tournament's I was watching that took place in China they had a screen with flashing white crosses for when the ball was in correct position. So all the ref did was ask for it to be brought up on screen and he simply nurdled the balls until all the little crosses were flashing. Makes loads more sense and took half the amount of time to get it right


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2018, 11:16:23 AM

I was really surprised to see several incidents following a "miss", where the balls needed replacing in their original position.

The camera cut to the lady "Marker", who had several monitors & freeze frames available to her so she could see where the balls originally were.

She was beckoning with her hand in the air to the referee.....

Up a bit...but more, left a bit - no, your left not my left ....that's it - up a bit - no down a bit.....bit more, whoa, too much....

Ugh, this is 2018 & they were faffing about like it was 1950. It was an embarrassment.

Just juxtapose 2 freeze-frames on top of each other & have a white circle where the ball should be, job done.

In one of the tournament's I was watching that took place in China they had a screen with flashing white crosses for when the ball was in correct position. So all the ref did was ask for it to be brought up on screen and he simply nurdled the balls until all the little crosses were flashing. Makes loads more sense and took half the amount of time to get it right

Exactly that, & it worked perfectly, & everyone could see it was correct.

Instead, we had some lady with a blue rinse waving her hands about, up a bit, down a bit. Reminded me of Bernie the Bolt.


(http://i.imgur.com/g63iqx1.jpg) (https://imgur.com/g63iqx1)



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 01, 2018, 12:08:10 PM

I was really surprised to see several incidents following a "miss", where the balls needed replacing in their original position.

The camera cut to the lady "Marker", who had several monitors & freeze frames available to her so she could see where the balls originally were.

She was beckoning with her hand in the air to the referee.....

Up a bit...but more, left a bit - no, your left not my left ....that's it - up a bit - no down a bit.....bit more, whoa, too much....

Ugh, this is 2018 & they were faffing about like it was 1950. It was an embarrassment.

Just juxtapose 2 freeze-frames on top of each other & have a white circle where the ball should be, job done.

In one of the tournament's I was watching that took place in China they had a screen with flashing white crosses for when the ball was in correct position. So all the ref did was ask for it to be brought up on screen and he simply nurdled the balls until all the little crosses were flashing. Makes loads more sense and took half the amount of time to get it right

Exactly that, & it worked perfectly, & everyone could see it was correct.

Instead, we had some lady with a blue rinse waving her hands about




I bet she had clumpy shoes too.




Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2018, 12:09:48 PM

I was really surprised to see several incidents following a "miss", where the balls needed replacing in their original position.

The camera cut to the lady "Marker", who had several monitors & freeze frames available to her so she could see where the balls originally were.

She was beckoning with her hand in the air to the referee.....

Up a bit...but more, left a bit - no, your left not my left ....that's it - up a bit - no down a bit.....bit more, whoa, too much....

Ugh, this is 2018 & they were faffing about like it was 1950. It was an embarrassment.

Just juxtapose 2 freeze-frames on top of each other & have a white circle where the ball should be, job done.

In one of the tournament's I was watching that took place in China they had a screen with flashing white crosses for when the ball was in correct position. So all the ref did was ask for it to be brought up on screen and he simply nurdled the balls until all the little crosses were flashing. Makes loads more sense and took half the amount of time to get it right

Exactly that, & it worked perfectly, & everyone could see it was correct.

Instead, we had some lady with a blue rinse waving her hands about




I bet she had clumpy shoes too.




Nah, she struck me as the sensible flat heeled type. You can always tell.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 01, 2018, 01:14:08 PM




Settled in to watch the snooker, hoping mardy arse Ronnie gets beaten.

Who is that he's playin? He looks like Booder but with less fingers.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 01, 2018, 01:29:51 PM
I think Booder looky likey needs about 60 start.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 01, 2018, 02:04:22 PM
And there he was, gone .


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 01, 2018, 07:09:51 PM
I like this ref.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2018, 04:07:19 PM

Whilst Martin Gould was beating Mark Williams yesterday (Gould played as well as I can ever recall him playing), the commentator, might have been Mr Foulds, mentioned that both had performed better since they had their "sight right" experience.

It sounded like a hint or sneaky bit of spam to me, & it was, but I thought it was quite interesting.

http://www.sightrightuk.com/snooker.php

They do Darts & Golf, too.

Bet they'd struggle with me though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 02, 2018, 10:40:06 PM
Old mardy arse is a gonner then.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2018, 10:46:36 PM
Old mardy arse is a gonner then.

The referee with the clumpy shoes?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2018, 11:03:00 PM
Lost to old cheating arse.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2018, 11:06:37 PM
Lost to old cheating arse.

Exactly.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 03, 2018, 08:33:12 AM
Lost to old cheating arse.

Haha.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 03, 2018, 12:53:09 PM
They keep going on about the 'personal issues' that almost made Barry Hawking quit snooker last year. Anyone know what this all about?

Also, can we move the darts thread? It keeps getting too close to this one.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 03, 2018, 06:49:38 PM
Old mardy arse

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43273127


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 03, 2018, 09:03:58 PM
Old mardy arse

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43273127

Proper ledge, Ronnie.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 03, 2018, 09:06:20 PM

The idiot TV Producer who came up with the ridiculous idea of putting a TV camera on a cue wants shooting. If a single viewer thinks that good I'll eat my hat.

It's bad enough having to watch Higgins on a Saturday night without adding insult to injury.

Tezzer.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 04, 2018, 01:27:43 PM
Why do they keep referring to 'Hawkins horrible year' and 'Hawkins personal issues'?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TheDazzler on March 04, 2018, 01:34:41 PM
Why do they keep referring to 'Hawkins horrible year' and 'Hawkins personal issues'?

https://www.rte.ie/sport/snooker/2018/0304/944875-hawkins-opens-on-family-tragedy-after-making-final/


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 04, 2018, 01:38:58 PM
Why do they keep referring to 'Hawkins horrible year' and 'Hawkins personal issues'?

https://www.rte.ie/sport/snooker/2018/0304/944875-hawkins-opens-on-family-tragedy-after-making-final/


Cheers Daz.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 04, 2018, 02:20:41 PM
Frame 3. What a steal by Hawkins.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on March 04, 2018, 02:43:22 PM
Why do they keep referring to 'Hawkins horrible year' and 'Hawkins personal issues'?

https://www.rte.ie/sport/snooker/2018/0304/944875-hawkins-opens-on-family-tragedy-after-making-final/


Cheers Daz.

I thought he must have been being bullied by his older brother Keith.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 04, 2018, 03:03:49 PM
I would argue that Higgins is playing better now than Hendry did in his pomp. He's certainly potting a higher percentage of really difficult opening reds and treating them as commonplace shots.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 20, 2018, 05:12:43 PM
Has anyone ever seen Ryan Day and Mad Marty Wilson in the same room?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 20, 2018, 08:16:03 PM

Who is the new (or new to my ears) commentator?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on March 20, 2018, 08:44:55 PM

Who is the new (or new to my ears) commentator?

No idea but he got me to switch channels fairly quickly - utterly dreadful !!!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: peejaytwo on March 20, 2018, 08:48:04 PM

Who is the new (or new to my ears) commentator?

No idea but he got me to switch channels fairly quickly - utterly dreadful !!!

Joe Perry?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 20, 2018, 09:00:25 PM

Who is the new (or new to my ears) commentator?

No idea but he got me to switch channels fairly quickly - utterly dreadful !!!

Joe Perry?

No idea, but he's been replaced in the commentary box by McManus now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 21, 2018, 08:13:03 PM

Who is the new (or new to my ears) commentator?

No idea but he got me to switch channels fairly quickly - utterly dreadful !!!

Joe Perry?

Yup, Joe Perry.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: rfgqqabc on March 26, 2018, 09:33:31 PM
Not sure if this is new as I found it on reddit but wth

https://gfycat.com/DapperNeatFossa


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 26, 2018, 09:54:18 PM
Not sure if this is new as I found it on reddit but wth

https://gfycat.com/DapperNeatFossa

It was at the weekend in the Players Championship.

I think he intended to hit the pack.

Absolutely amazing that ball went through that gap twice, the odds against that happening must be huge.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on March 26, 2018, 09:54:30 PM
Not sure if this is new as I found it on reddit but wth

https://gfycat.com/DapperNeatFossa

Never intentional, surely?

Meant to go the other side of that red and finish on the one by the pink spot into the bottom left, but hit if with too much right hand side.

Massively unnecessary risk otherwise.

As the red goes back through the gap, ronnie shakes his head slightly.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 26, 2018, 10:13:12 PM
Yeah, 100% accidental.

Good viewing, though :)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on March 28, 2018, 06:40:35 AM
Luca Brecel made a 147 in this week's Championship League:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5VgeuRYyok

Not a textbook example, but some terrific shots.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 07, 2018, 03:41:32 PM
Who is this commentating on the Selby Wilson game?

"He likes potting these when he's at the table"

I wonder how many he pots when he's not at the table?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 20, 2018, 07:11:32 AM

The World Snooker Championships begin tomorrow.

Here's the 1st round draw.

Mark Selby v Joe Perry

Mark Allen v Liam Highfield

Kyren Wilson v Matthew Stevens

Shaun Murphy v Jamie Jones

John Higgins v Thepchaiya Un-Nooh

Stuart Bingham v Jack Lisowski

Luca Brecel v Ricky Walden

Judd Trump v Chris Wakelin

Ding Junhui v Xiao Guodong

Anthony McGill v Ryan Day

Marco Fu v Lyu Haotian

Barry Hawkins v Stuart Carrington

Mark Williams v Jimmy Robertson

Neil Robertson v Robert Milkins

Ali Carter v Graeme Dott

Ronnie O'Sullivan v Stephen Maguire



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on April 20, 2018, 07:26:03 AM
The bottom quarter looks horrible


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2018, 09:10:11 AM

For the first time, World Snooker have announced a dress code for spectators with tickets entering the arena.

They said: "Sorry football fans. The event promoter requests that no sportswear or team sport shirts a worn."

Fans will be refused entry and they will have to find alternative clothing if something is deemed unsuitable.

Brian Talbot, who has been attending the Crucible since 1989 and is usually seen sat in the front row, told the Coventry Telegraph the decision was "a load of rubbish".

He said: "[World Snooker chairman] Barry Hearn is an absolute disgrace, he wants to bring the sport in line with the darts. I may as well go in dressed as Snow White or a Smurf.

"He's a dinosaur and he's ruining the sport that I love."

O'Sullivan said it was "laughable" and added: "You pay the money for your ticket, you should be allowed to wear what you want.

"At the darts they seem to be walking around in Superman outfits."



(http://i.imgur.com/zBrIcgj.png) (https://imgur.com/zBrIcgj)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 21, 2018, 10:38:19 AM
Snooker is one of the last bastions of reasonable, respectful, civilised fan behaviour. Maintaining a sensible dress code will only serve to preserve and enhance that IMO.

The shot clock tournament is totally alien to everything the game stands for, garish spectators jumping about and calling out, players in t shirts running around the table. You may argue that it's what people want to watch, well fair enough, but I would argue that they don't want to watch snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2018, 10:43:47 AM
Amen to all that Tom.

Love to see the players well-dressed, the spectators orderly and respectful.

Spectators dressed in replica football shirts - snooker or anywhere - should all be shot. I went to breakfast at The Lux in Las Vegas one year and one of my dining companions turned up in a football shirt. Never been so embarrassed in my life. To add insult to injury it was a Peterborough FC shirt. No shame.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 21, 2018, 10:45:18 AM

Amen to all that Tom.

Love to see the players well-dressed, the spectators orderly and respectful.

Spectators dressed in replica football shirts - snooker or anywhere - should all be shot. I went to breakfast at The Lux in Las Vegas one year and one of my dining companions turned up in a football shirt. Never been so embarrassed in my life.

I bet it was a crap team too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 21, 2018, 10:47:19 AM
All major snooker finals should be black tie/lounge suits dress code like the old masters finals at Wembley used to be imo.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on April 21, 2018, 10:50:31 AM
All major snooker finals should be black tie/lounge suits dress code like the old masters finals at Wembley used to be imo.

- Collared shirts in the morning and afternoon sessions.
- Lounge suit for the evening sessions
- Black tie for the evening sessions in the final.

It's not an incumbrance to dress well.

Don't get me started on poker!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2018, 10:50:43 AM

Amen to all that Tom.

Love to see the players well-dressed, the spectators orderly and respectful.

Spectators dressed in replica football shirts - snooker or anywhere - should all be shot. I went to breakfast at The Lux in Las Vegas one year and one of my dining companions turned up in a football shirt. Never been so embarrassed in my life.

I bet it was a crap team too.

Too right. Peterborough FC, rofl.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2018, 10:51:31 AM
All major snooker finals should be black tie/lounge suits dress code like the old masters finals at Wembley used to be imo.

- Collared shirts in the morning and afternoon sessions.
- Lounge suit for the evening sessions
- Black tie for the evening sessions in the final.

Even better.

Bloody love the formality of (proper) snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 21, 2018, 10:59:40 AM
All major snooker finals should be black tie/lounge suits dress code like the old masters finals at Wembley used to be imo.

- Collared shirts in the morning and afternoon sessions.
- Lounge suit for the evening sessions
- Black tie for the evening sessions in the final.

It's not an incumbrance to dress well.

Don't get me started on poker!

Seems a very acceptable balance across all sessions.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 21, 2018, 11:01:17 AM
He seems to be wearing a shirt in the coventry style

Looks pissed of as well

His other half always looks terribly bored


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2018, 11:03:12 AM
He seems to be wearing a shirt in the coventry style

Looks pissed of as well

His other half always looks terribly bored

His other half is wearing the same top as last year, too. I saw the same top in Dorothy Perkins last week.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 21, 2018, 11:14:30 AM
Selby not started well but can be his want

Not sure Perry could have played a lot worse and he is 3-0 up!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: booder on April 21, 2018, 11:33:56 AM
Amen to all that Tom.

Love to see the players well-dressed, the spectators orderly and respectful.


+1


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 21, 2018, 11:37:34 AM
This frame has not been the best

4-0 it is


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 21, 2018, 03:49:59 PM
Now Ronnie's at it 0-4 at the break.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: dino1980 on April 21, 2018, 04:51:41 PM
Was listening to 5Live earlier today and they had Murphy and Allen on. Allen’s step-son, who is just 13, made a 147 last week. What’s more it only took him 5m20s!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2018, 09:43:31 AM

If Maguire can beat Ronnie today, good luck to him, but with Selby already on his way home, it'd take some of the shine off the next 2 weeks if Ronnie goes busto.

The thing with Ronnie is he reminds me of when I used to go watch, say, George Best, Alex Higgins  or Ian Botham. You never quite knew what to expect, but sometimes, they'd do that magic thing, & we'd be enthralled. And Ronnie, almost alone amongst snooker players, can do that.

PS - Don't forget, 10am start.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2018, 10:44:07 AM

What a start in the snooker.

Ronnie took the opener to go 4-6, then after a protracted safety battle at the start of the next, Ronnie makes a mistake and let's Maguire in. With the balls open and the frame at his mercy, he runs in a simple 49 before making an unforced error on a simple chance. Despite two Red's and a yellow being tied up or on cushions, Ronnie clears up with an immaculate 84.

Plenty of play in this yet.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2018, 11:04:16 AM

Wow, frame 12 was a real topsy turvy cliff-hanger.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 22, 2018, 11:59:11 AM
Thanks for the update.

Chores done now, snooker on, waiting for me dinner.




Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 22, 2018, 12:29:31 PM
Pressure blue to the middle. Most missed shot in the game.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2018, 12:33:49 PM

Maguire has been very unlucky with "kicks", that's 4 or 5 now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 22, 2018, 12:43:59 PM
Does Maguire look constantly unwell to anyone else?

Nice warm up for Ronnie :)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 22, 2018, 08:30:31 PM
Does anyone else think Dotty appeared to be rushing his shots in the last couple of sessions v Carter?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
Does anyone else think Dotty appeared to be rushing his shots in the last couple of sessions v Carter?

I only half-watched it Ralph, but got the impression he did not want to be there. He's a big Rangers fan, maybe that was on his mind.

Worth looking at his wiki page (can't link right now), he has had problems over the years with depression. Quite a life story, one way and another.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 23, 2018, 08:52:06 AM

Current prices for the World Championships;


https://www.oddschecker.com/snooker/world-championship/winner

Most go half odds 1, 2.

Not sure I'd want to back Ronnie at 6/4, but there must be some value, perhaps EW, down the field.

I thought Kyren Wilson (16/1) looked good yesterday, whilst Shaun Murphy (16/1) & Mark Williams (20/1) have some appeal. Even Higgins at 8/1 must be of interest & Ryan Day a lively 40/1 shot.

Think Trump (8/1) is the only one who is poor value. Guess he'll win it, then. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 23, 2018, 11:19:06 AM
Mark Allen looks the bet at the prices to me ew in the other half of the draw to Ronnie. 18/1 ew currently looks more than fair with Selby out of the way in his half of the draw and Perry up next.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 23, 2018, 11:51:50 AM
Not my bag but the 6s on just about left on Ronnie looks value against Carter.

He sounded beat in the post match interview yesterday. All credit to him amazing physical and mental strength to recover well enough from stomach surgery less than a week before the match.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 23, 2018, 11:55:16 AM
Does anyone else think Dotty appeared to be rushing his shots in the last couple of sessions v Carter?

I only half-watched it Ralph, but got the impression he did not want to be there. He's a big Rangers fan, maybe that was on his mind.

Worth looking at his wiki page (can't link right now), he has had problems over the years with depression. Quite a life story, one way and another.

I think most Rangers fans stopped getting distracted by them a few years ago.

As for not wanting to be there - I'm not sure I'm buying into that as he was leading 8-7 - just seemed to be rushing his shots unduly*.


*<edit> This was epecially noticeable during the safety duels.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 23, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
Is this the most tilting phrase in sport 'he has hit that too well'

If you have hit it too well you have over hit it right?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2018, 03:27:29 PM
Is this the most tilting phrase in sport 'he has hit that too well'

If you have hit it too well you have over hit it right?


You've explained that too well.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 23, 2018, 03:37:27 PM
Is this the most tilting phrase in sport 'he has hit that too well'

If you have hit it too well you have over hit it right?


You've explained that too well.
;D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bobby1 on April 23, 2018, 04:05:21 PM
Is this the most tilting phrase in sport 'he has hit that too well'

If you have hit it too well you have over hit it right?

'He took his eye off the pot'

Followed by slow motion replay of player with his eyes firmly on the pot but missing it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2018, 04:18:23 PM
He's a great player and he never says anything out of place but I just instinctively don't trust Shaun Murphy.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 23, 2018, 04:22:07 PM
Jones has impressed me here gutsy player

They only ever mention good rest players


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
Jones has impressed me here gutsy player


I agree. I'd like to see him have a decent run.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 23, 2018, 05:43:30 PM
We have a decider superb stuff


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: DungBeetle on April 23, 2018, 09:23:08 PM
Thought Brecel v Waldon might be a good game, but Brecel has been abject so far.  Dreadful performance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 24, 2018, 06:44:10 AM
Brecel been a lot more down than up since his cue got damaged in China I think


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 24, 2018, 08:48:38 AM
Brecel been a lot more down than up since his cue got damaged in China I think

I thought he got his cue back having lost it in China then won a ranking event - didn't know it was damaged.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 24, 2018, 10:42:12 AM
Brecel been a lot more down than up since his cue got damaged in China I think

I thought he got his cue back having lost it in China then won a ranking event - didn't know it was damaged.

" Brecel lately after the potter lost his cue during the International Championship. “I lost it in Daqing and they couldn't find it so it's gone,” he added."

Then a later article stating he found it and was damaged and using it in rotation with a new one some matches playing with either at any one time....

all a bit strange


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 24, 2018, 11:16:15 AM
Brecel been a lot more down than up since his cue got damaged in China I think

I thought he got his cue back having lost it in China then won a ranking event - didn't know it was damaged.

" Brecel lately after the potter lost his cue during the International Championship. “I lost it in Daqing and they couldn't find it so it's gone,” he added."

Then a later article stating he found it and was damaged and using it in rotation with a new one some matches playing with either at any one time....

all a bit strange

I remember Methuselah senior mentioning something about Brecel using two cues a little while back.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 24, 2018, 12:44:58 PM
Brecel been a lot more down than up since his cue got damaged in China I think

I thought he got his cue back having lost it in China then won a ranking event - didn't know it was damaged.

" Brecel lately after the potter lost his cue during the International Championship. “I lost it in Daqing and they couldn't find it so it's gone,” he added."

Then a later article stating he found it and was damaged and using it in rotation with a new one some matches playing with either at any one time....

all a bit strange

I remember Methuselah senior mentioning something about Brecel using two cues a little while back.

Hi Methuselah the Elder,

Weirdest thing ever.

Think it was based on this;


http://www.worldsnooker.com/allen-sees-off-two-cue-brecel/


(http://i.imgur.com/15a02lP.jpg) (https://imgur.com/15a02lP)




 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 24, 2018, 03:25:12 PM
what a suit for Williams.  Mid life crisis suit.  Still thinks its 1996.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 24, 2018, 03:32:41 PM
what a suit for Williams.  Mid life crisis suit.  Still thinks its 1996.

Looks in decent nick physically certainly best for a while anyway

agree re the suit


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 24, 2018, 05:19:27 PM
Brecel Walden game is tense already and still a way to go both look shaky


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 25, 2018, 08:25:15 PM
I like this Thai kid's game - the dodgepot of Wishall will have to play well to win this now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 25, 2018, 08:29:56 PM
I like this Thai kid's game - the dodgepot of Wishall will have to play well to win this now.

The Thai kid will have to eat a few more green curries if he wants to grow into that waistcoat.

I agree though, excellent young prospect.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 25, 2018, 08:44:57 PM
I seem to have Tikayed him or tko'd him in blonde parlance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 26, 2018, 02:35:17 PM
FFS! Joe Johnson comments on, or during every shot.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on April 26, 2018, 02:42:33 PM
better than Dennis "weak joke" Taylor or John "same old schtick" Virgo

actually,just as bad

Edbon, McManus, Foulds with a smattering of Davis are where it is at nowadays for snooker comms


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 26, 2018, 03:27:00 PM
Johnson is worse

With respect he often doesn't realise a frame is won for example


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 26, 2018, 03:49:33 PM
Ebdon is very good

Cant have Mohammed as a presenter of any sport let alone snooker

"he has got the momentum now so he will win" every match rinse repeat

yep its that easy Jason


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bobby1 on April 26, 2018, 03:58:52 PM
Alan Mcmanus been a sad loss in the comms box this week.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on April 26, 2018, 04:00:37 PM
Alan Mcmanus been a sad loss in the comms box this week.

he commentated on a first round game.

what happened then?

he is excellent on the ITV stuff through the season. very tactically astute


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 26, 2018, 04:10:51 PM
he has done bits and pieces since the first round

Agreed very good, only slight annoyance is Parrot etc not being able to respond to him without calling him "Angles"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on April 26, 2018, 04:12:10 PM
meanwhile

Ryan Day has absolutely imploded from 8-5 up

A very tough watch


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bobby1 on April 26, 2018, 04:18:29 PM
he has done bits and pieces since the first round

Agreed very good, only slight annoyance is Parrot etc not being able to respond to him without calling him "Angles"

I'm a Eurosport man so that explains why Ive missed him.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 26, 2018, 04:22:50 PM
this is awful



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on April 26, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Judd Trump = no concentration!

what an incredible tournament


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 26, 2018, 09:29:56 PM
Wakelin a superb story

great mix of a smile and fierce concentration on his face when he is playing here


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 26, 2018, 09:32:10 PM
92% pot success is some going really hitting it beautifully here

The decision to take that green under the circumstances was probably the shot of the tourney so far


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on April 26, 2018, 10:36:04 PM
quite something this


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 26, 2018, 11:40:35 PM
What a match!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Jamier-Host on April 26, 2018, 11:49:31 PM
Yep, really enjoyed that


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bobby1 on April 27, 2018, 12:14:44 AM
What a match!


fantastic game wasn't it and so much better now I know Alan Mc is on the BBC


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 28, 2018, 11:31:17 AM
This Hawkins/Lyu Haotian match is quite enthralling - two excellent cueists.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 28, 2018, 11:46:28 AM
This Hawkins/Lyu Haotian match is quite enthralling - two excellent cueists.

Absolutely!.

I fancy Lyu to win it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 28, 2018, 11:51:11 AM
What a match!


fantastic game wasn't it and so much better now I know Alan Mc is on the BBC

Willie for angles was a great bit of transfer business by the bbc. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 28, 2018, 12:31:54 PM
This Hawkins/Lyu Haotian match is quite enthralling - two excellent cueists.

Absolutely!.

I fancy Lyu to win it.

Top bokking Tom - tikayesque even!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 28, 2018, 12:40:04 PM
This Hawkins/Lyu Haotian match is quite enthralling - two excellent cueists.

Absolutely!.

I fancy Lyu to win it.

Top bokking Tom - tikayesque even!

Superb grinder the Hawk.  Always under rated.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 28, 2018, 12:42:30 PM
What a match!


fantastic game wasn't it and so much better now I know Alan Mc is on the BBC

Willie for angles was a great bit of transfer business by the bbc. 

I reckon it must have been a close thing between Willie and John Virgo.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 28, 2018, 12:43:19 PM
What a match!


fantastic game wasn't it and so much better now I know Alan Mc is on the BBC

Willie for angles was a great bit of transfer business by the bbc. 

I reckon it must have been a close thing between Willie and John Virgo.

Wheres the cue ball going got him over the line i think.  They still have hundreds of those tshirts for sale in the lobby. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 28, 2018, 04:10:52 PM
Thoughts on the Carter O'Sullivan 'coming together'?



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on April 28, 2018, 04:11:51 PM
Thoughts on the Carter O'Sullivan 'coming together'?



Carter definitely planned it.  You could see his cheeky grin before it happened like he knew he was going to do it.  Ronald knew it as well hence the comeback.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 28, 2018, 04:12:41 PM
I think O'Sullivan will win now. (Intentional bokking test)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 28, 2018, 04:57:52 PM
I think O'Sullivan will win now. (Intentional bokking test)

Still got it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 28, 2018, 04:58:21 PM
OMG! What a shot from Ronnie.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 28, 2018, 04:59:00 PM
OMG again. What a time to miscue.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 28, 2018, 05:00:39 PM
He hit that too well.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 28, 2018, 05:11:56 PM
See if it works on Higgins


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 28, 2018, 08:22:50 PM

In every way, Mark Williams seems to get better with age.

Absolutely love watching him, crucial clothes and everything.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on April 28, 2018, 08:31:09 PM

In every way, Mark Williams seems to get better with age.

Absolutely love watching him, crucial clothes and everything.

One of best potters ever, and great to watch.

Actually mentioned his outfit to my mate when we were watching earlier :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 28, 2018, 08:40:00 PM

In every way, Mark Williams seems to get better with age.

Absolutely love watching him, crucial clothes and everything.

One of best potters ever, and great to watch.

Actually mentioned his outfit to my mate when we were watching earlier :D

I might just marry him.

You ever player poker against him? He used to regularly frequent the Grosvenor cardrooms in Cardiff and Swansea, along with Matthew Stevens and Ken Doherty back in the day. "The Doc", (who passed away recently) who was Saddam Hussein's lawyer, would be there too. Fun times.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on April 28, 2018, 08:52:20 PM

In every way, Mark Williams seems to get better with age.

Absolutely love watching him, crucial clothes and everything.

One of best potters ever, and great to watch.

Actually mentioned his outfit to my mate when we were watching earlier :D

I might just marry him.

You ever player poker against him? He used to regularly frequent the Grosvenor cardrooms in Cardiff and Swansea, along with Matthew Stevens and Ken Doherty back in the day. "The Doc", (who passed away recently) who was Saddam Hussein's lawyer, would be there too. Fun times.

Yeah, in a £30rb at my old man's place, back when Laddies was the Pokerstars of online poker. Dad used to run them a couple times a year, and people would come down from Manchester, across from London. It was like having the Daddy comp live :D

Simon, who you met at The Venetian a couple years back flew over from Tenerife for it, a mate of mine flew over from Sweden, and all the other Laddies guys travelled from all over the UK. Great fun, and some seriously messy cash games. He came up with the other Welsh guys. Iwan, Neno, Viv Williams, and a couple others. From memory, there was a 5/10 or 10/20 game, which saw Conor Tate clean him, and no doubt several others out.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 28, 2018, 09:19:11 PM

In every way, Mark Williams seems to get better with age.

Absolutely love watching him, crucial clothes and everything.

One of best potters ever, and great to watch.

Actually mentioned his outfit to my mate when we were watching earlier :D

I might just marry him.

You ever player poker against him? He used to regularly frequent the Grosvenor cardrooms in Cardiff and Swansea, along with Matthew Stevens and Ken Doherty back in the day. "The Doc", (who passed away recently) who was Saddam Hussein's lawyer, would be there too. Fun times.

I thought you were spoken for but just in case you're not, I met Mark at J4 Walsall either at one of the monthly £300's or a fessie - it might have been with you and Tom actually - and was minding my own business in the gent's having a Jimmy Riddle during a break using the urinal when out of the corner of my eye I noticed a willy almost at eye-level standing next to me. As I was zipping up having hastily averted my gaze earlier I noticed that it was none other than the aforementioned Mark Williams who was standing next to me.

I feel sure he won't disappoint you.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 29, 2018, 07:12:01 AM
Ah, those heady days of the £300 at junction 10. What fun we had. So many characters, Jonas, Woodley, Jellineck Reardon, Jackson, Peters, Hussain, Wernik, Grech, Rocach, Gosney, Jackson, Sunar, Chronin...

I couldn't sleep the night before, I was beside myself with excitement. Poker will never be such fun.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2018, 07:37:03 AM
Ah, those heady days of the £300 at junction 10. What fun we had. So many characters, Jonas, Woodley, Jellineck Reardon, Jackson, Peters, Hussain, Wernik, Grech, Rocach, Gosney, Jackson, Sunar, Chronin...

I couldn't sleep the night before, I was beside myself with excitement. Poker will never be such fun.

When Methuselah's Dad mentioned the monthly £300 at Walsall, I had exactly the same thought process. Wow, what excitement that one generated every month.

Prior to that, it was the monthly £100 at Gala Notts which was "the biggie". In the first of those I played, I finalled, was offered really bad "business" 6 handed, & a young lad stopped me from accepting & negotiated a better chop. That was Julian Thew, & from that day on we swapped 10% of everything we both played. That turned out nice. For me......

I played that £100 one month, & ended up on a table that included Pete Costa, his brother Kim, another brother (forget name) who was Chilli's Dad, Chili, Uncle Louis, & another Uncle. So, 6 Greek guys (including Maria). Family pots? Nope, they played the game straight. 4 fingered Jimmy was on the same table. He was called 4 fingered Jimmy as he only had 3 fingers.

There were 2 miserable old sods on the table, too (we often started 12 or even 13 handed), Jamie Moult & Trevor Windbag.

The Gala Notts £100 was nothing compared to the £300 at Walsall though, that was THE biggie. One of us would go across earlier in the week & buy 5 or 6 of us in, as it always sold out. I'd go over on the Wednesday & pay in for you, Ralph, Greg Hill, Dave Coloclough, Belly, Dave Smith, & a few others.

The "big treble" was completed in the monthly biggie at Naps Sheffield, where we'd all have dinner in the restaurant before it started. Naps Sheffield, uniquely, had a 200 denom chip in play, God knows what that was about. Many of those who played the Sheffield biggie are no longer with us - George Geary, Dave Colclough, Devilfish, J T Law, Dave Smith & a few besides.

All three monthly "biggies" were killed when DTD opened. DTD did things that were unheard of - Late Entry for example. Can you even imagine? You could buy-in AFTER it had started. What? And, uniquely, DTD started on time. Not sure I'd ever played an MTT at Walsall that started less than 45 minutes late. The reason, of course, was that once "shuffle up & deal" was announced, it was too late to buy-in. You could travel 200 miles, arrive 1 minute late, & that was it, you'd be turned away. So they delayed the start until everyone was there.

Simon Trumper had won a seat in a Super Sat for a £1,000 event at Blackpool when he was sponsored by UK Betting. (UK Betting was owned by 365 Media, which later became part of SB&G). He arrived 30 seconds after it started & was turned away.

Sorry lads, went off on one there. Back to the snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: booder on April 29, 2018, 09:57:53 AM
Ah, those heady days of the £300 at junction 10. What fun we had. So many characters, Jonas, Woodley, Jellineck Reardon, Jackson, Peters, Hussain, Wernik, Grech, Rocach, Gosney, Jackson, Sunar, Chronin...

I couldn't sleep the night before, I was beside myself with excitement. Poker will never be such fun.

Good times ,great table company.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 29, 2018, 11:45:58 AM
Ah, those heady days of the £300 at junction 10. What fun we had. So many characters, Jonas, Woodley, Jellineck Reardon, Jackson, Peters, Hussain, Wernik, Grech, Rocach, Gosney, Jackson, Sunar, Chronin...

I couldn't sleep the night before, I was beside myself with excitement. Poker will never be such fun.

When Methuselah's Dad mentioned the monthly £300 at Walsall, I had exactly the same thought process. Wow, what excitement that one generated every month.

Prior to that, it was the monthly £100 at Gala Notts which was "the biggie". In the first of those I played, I finalled, was offered really bad "business" 6 handed, & a young lad stopped me from accepting & negotiated a better chop. That was Julian Thew, & from that day on we swapped 10% of everything we both played. That turned out nice. For me......

I played that £100 one month, & ended up on a table that included Pete Costa, his brother Kim, another brother (forget name) who was Chilli's Dad, Chili, Uncle Louis, & another Uncle. So, 6 Greek guys (including Maria). Family pots? Nope, they played the game straight. 4 fingered Jimmy was on the same table. He was called 4 fingered Jimmy as he only had 3 fingers.

There were 2 miserable old sods on the table, too (we often started 12 or even 13 handed), Jamie Moult & Trevor Windbag.

The Gala Notts £100 was nothing compared to the £300 at Walsall though, that was THE biggie. One of us would go across earlier in the week & buy 5 or 6 of us in, as it always sold out. I'd go over on the Wednesday & pay in for you, Ralph, Greg Hill, Dave Coloclough, Belly, Dave Smith, & a few others.

The "big treble" was completed in the monthly biggie at Naps Sheffield, where we'd all have dinner in the restaurant before it started. Naps Sheffield, uniquely, had a 200 denom chip in play, God knows what that was about. Many of those who played the Sheffield biggie are no longer with us - George Geary, Dave Colclough, Devilfish, J T Law, Dave Smith & a few besides.

All three monthly "biggies" were killed when DTD opened. DTD did things that were unheard of - Late Entry for example. Can you even imagine? You could buy-in AFTER it had started. What? And, uniquely, DTD started on time. Not sure I'd ever played an MTT at Walsall that started less than 45 minutes late. The reason, of course, was that once "shuffle up & deal" was announced, it was too late to buy-in. You could travel 200 miles, arrive 1 minute late, & that was it, you'd be turned away. So they delayed the start until everyone was there.

Simon Trumper had won a seat in a Super Sat for a £1,000 event at Blackpool when he was sponsored by UK Betting. (UK Betting was owned by 365 Media, which later became part of SB&G). He arrived 30 seconds after it started & was turned away.

Sorry lads, went off on one there. Back to the snooker.

Chili's dad is Angelo(Evangelo) and is actually Kim and Pete's brother-in-law having married their sister - the oldest brother Louis is quite the character who Pete always referred to as "screwie Louis".

There was actually a hell of a lot of soft-play among the Greek fraternity both in Nottingham and Walsall in those days although one guy who always played it straight against all-comers and still does is Tassos.

Those were happy days at J10.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2018, 07:29:56 PM

Been like this for best part of 20 minutes now. (Walden v Trump)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 29, 2018, 08:39:42 PM
"It came off that cushion faster than it went on and that's a fact".


Imagine if they had two of those cushions facing each other and bounced a ball between them. Eventually it would go faster than the speed of light


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 29, 2018, 08:51:22 PM
"It came off that cushion faster than it went on and that's a fact".


Imagine if they had two of those cushions facing each other and bounced a ball between them. Eventually it would go faster than the speed of light

Any thoughts on if the ball has a lot of spin on it? It's totally standard imo. I acknowledge the comms are usually talking about plain ball bounce.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 29, 2018, 09:18:53 PM
"It came off that cushion faster than it went on and that's a fact".


Imagine if they had two of those cushions facing each other and bounced a ball between them. Eventually it would go faster than the speed of light

Any thoughts on if the ball has a lot of spin on it? It's totally standard imo. I acknowledge the comms are usually talking about plain ball bounce.


You're right.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 30, 2018, 07:33:50 PM
I have the greatest respect for Barry Hern, great bloke and fantastic business man IMO, but now he's on about 'encouraging' players to play faster, and publishing lists (name and shame) those at the slow end of the scale.

It's the thin edge of a very ugly wedge as far as I'm concerned. Please let's not go there.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 30, 2018, 07:45:12 PM
I have the greatest respect for Barry Hern, great bloke and fantastic business man IMO, but now he's on about 'encouraging' players to play faster, and publishing lists (name and shame) those at the slow end of the scale.

It's the thin edge of a very ugly wedge as far as I'm concerned. Please let's not go there.

He's talking average time taken to play each shot using a large sample-size I believe rather than individual shots.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 30, 2018, 07:51:50 PM
I have the greatest respect for Barry Hern, great bloke and fantastic business man IMO, but now he's on about 'encouraging' players to play faster, and publishing lists (name and shame) those at the slow end of the scale.

It's the thin edge of a very ugly wedge as far as I'm concerned. Please let's not go there.

He's talking average time taken to play each shot using a large sample-size I believe rather than individual shots.

So he's saying that the average player should speed up?

It's been fine for the last 200 years Ralph, why mess with it?

Before we know it there will be a clock constantly running on screen and the commentators will harp on about it even more than they do now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 30, 2018, 07:58:55 PM
I have the greatest respect for Barry Hern, great bloke and fantastic business man IMO, but now he's on about 'encouraging' players to play faster, and publishing lists (name and shame) those at the slow end of the scale.

It's the thin edge of a very ugly wedge as far as I'm concerned. Please let's not go there.

He's talking average time taken to play each shot using a large sample-size I believe rather than individual shots.

So he's saying that the average player should speed up?

It's been fine for the last 200 years Ralph, why mess with it?

Before we know it there will be a clock constantly running on screen and the commentators will harp on about it even more than they do now.

I heard the interview and he appears to be targetting the odd scalliwag who deliberately uses very slow play as a tactic.

You and I would be fine though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 30, 2018, 08:03:55 PM
I have the greatest respect for Barry Hern, great bloke and fantastic business man IMO, but now he's on about 'encouraging' players to play faster, and publishing lists (name and shame) those at the slow end of the scale.

It's the thin edge of a very ugly wedge as far as I'm concerned. Please let's not go there.

He's talking average time taken to play each shot using a large sample-size I believe rather than individual shots.

So he's saying that the average player should speed up?

It's been fine for the last 200 years Ralph, why mess with it?

Before we know it there will be a clock constantly running on screen and the commentators will harp on about it even more than they do now.

I heard the interview and he appears to be targetting the odd scalliwag who deliberately uses very slow play as a tactic.

You and I would be fine though.

If it's only the odd scallywag the ref can sort it, absolutely no need for Barry or people with stopwatches to get involved.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 30, 2018, 08:07:38 PM
BTW I loved Barry's take on the O'Sullivan Carter shoulder clash.


"It was nothing. Snooker players are real men, if they had been professional football players one would have fell down and the other would have been sent off"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on May 01, 2018, 05:10:55 PM
Higgins can't play much worse than that and is still only 5-3 down.  Looks a bet to me at the prices.  Trump not impressive at all.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: nirvana on May 01, 2018, 06:32:07 PM
I have the greatest respect for Barry Hern, great bloke and fantastic business man IMO, but now he's on about 'encouraging' players to play faster, and publishing lists (name and shame) those at the slow end of the scale.

It's the thin edge of a very ugly wedge as far as I'm concerned. Please let's not go there.

He's talking average time taken to play each shot using a large sample-size I believe rather than individual shots.

So he's saying that the average player should speed up?

It's been fine for the last 200 years Ralph, why mess with it?

Before we know it there will be a clock constantly running on screen and the commentators will harp on about it even more than they do now.

I think they're concerned that the current demographic for watching Snooker will shuffle off pretty soon. Literally no appeal to anyone under 70, 60 at a push I'd say


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on May 01, 2018, 07:37:53 PM
Hawkins must be one of the more underated break builders

Very good to watch


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on May 01, 2018, 08:01:37 PM
Hawkins must be one of the more underated break builders

Very good to watch

He would have won the world title against anyone in history in 2013 the way he played other than a fully wound up A1 version of Ronnie.  I was there for all four sessions of the final and it was one of the best sporting events standard wise i have ever witnessed live.  He deserves to be a world champion given his course and distance form over many seasons at this venue.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 01, 2018, 08:05:19 PM
Hope he gets one this year  ;popcorn;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on May 01, 2018, 08:13:09 PM
Snooker stat: Barry Hawkins, who has never won the world title, has won  as many matches (17) at the Crucible in the last six years as Mark  Selby, who has won it three times in that period


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 01, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Hope he gets one this year  ;popcorn;

 :)up


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 01, 2018, 08:53:09 PM
Snooker stat: Barry Hawkins, who has never won the world title, has won  as many matches (17) at the Crucible in the last six years as Mark  Selby, who has won it three times in that period

Amazing stat, that.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 01, 2018, 09:16:01 PM
'Alf a pocket is plenty for the 'Awk.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2018, 01:17:56 PM
'Alf a pocket is plenty for the 'Awk.

Not wrong!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 02, 2018, 03:25:38 PM
OK, I know I'm a pedant, but "Most fiercest" and "It's a mistake to miss when you're in"?



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on May 02, 2018, 03:35:38 PM
Wilson seems a very level headed young bloke, wish I was that mature at his age (or even now)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on May 02, 2018, 03:54:59 PM
Wilson seems a very level headed young bloke, wish I was that mature at his age (or even now)

Very much so.  Can't imagine he goes on many benders with his mates.  Ebdon said yesterday he has a proper work ethic and nothing remotely flash in his lifestyle.  Got two kids already i think.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on May 02, 2018, 04:18:55 PM
Wilson seems a very level headed young bloke, wish I was that mature at his age (or even now)

Very much so.  Can't imagine he goes on many benders with his mates.  Ebdon said yesterday he has a proper work ethic and nothing remotely flash in his lifestyle.  Got two kids already i think.

Yes he just said in interview the kids changed his work ethic. Mcmanus countered with that he put in the hours when he didn't have kids!

Ebdon must be one of the best partners to have had, tbf he has been banging on about him for years.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 02, 2018, 07:56:30 PM
"Preposterous piece of potting pilferage" seemed slightly OTT - Angles must be widening his range.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 03, 2018, 07:44:49 PM
100% deliberate in-off there inho.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 03, 2018, 07:45:53 PM
Undoubtedly.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on May 03, 2018, 07:58:20 PM
Absolutely love watching Mark Williams, he plays such delicate positional shots, cue and object balls are rarely far apart once he gets in.

He just cleared up the first 6 colours, and used that quirky cue under body shot 3 times.

Should be a terrific match.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 03, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
The Hawk definitely has the best "B" game in the business but is susceptible to the "A" game of a couple of players.

Gwan the 'Awk!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on May 03, 2018, 08:41:44 PM

Now that's a snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 04, 2018, 02:52:32 PM
Fuck me! The commentators have discovered a new word and they are now flogging it to death.

This could mean parity.

It is now parity

We have parity.

He could achieve parity.

Parity would be a good result.


I don't know about parity, it's more like parroty.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on May 04, 2018, 02:56:08 PM
momentum getting plenty of mentions as per usual.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 04, 2018, 03:06:59 PM
I'm such a cheerful soul, so how come I always sound like a miserable old bastard? :tikay: ;carlocitrone;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 04, 2018, 03:21:27 PM
One day they'll make a television with volume controls, so you don't have to listen to the commentators ;)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 04, 2018, 03:28:50 PM
One day they'll make a television with volume controls, so you don't have to listen to the commentators ;)


Cheers Mark.

I saw this van today and thought of you.



(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180504/7uip9rph.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 04, 2018, 03:33:52 PM
One day they'll make a television with volume controls, so you don't have to listen to the commentators ;)


Cheers Mark.

I saw this van today and thought of you.
(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180504/7uip9rph.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net)

;D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 04, 2018, 07:28:27 PM
Players are going to have to start re-thinking the standard break off. It just isn't safe any more.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 05, 2018, 10:17:53 PM
They're talking about this semi-final taking 9 and 1/2 hours as though it were a long time - I've played single sessions longer than that.

Anyone else get the feeling that all of the commentators have got their money on Willo?

Go on the hawk!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 05, 2018, 10:35:20 PM
They're talking about this semi-final taking 9 and 1/2 hours as though it were a long time - I've played single sessions longer than that.

Anyone else get the feeling that all of the commentators have got their money on Willo?

Go on the hawk!

I used to play a lad called George Elliot every Sunday for ~ 2 years. We would start at 10am and finish at midnight with half an hour for lunch, (provided free by the club proprietor) other meals and refreshments, along with about 60 fags each, were consumed at the table. A good win, or heavy loss, would be somewhere in the region of £50.

Even back then, (I was in my early 20's) I used to get home utterly exhausted but I was always back there by 11am on Monday to play old Billy King a best of five for a tenner and the light. In that game I was about a 3/1 favourite, Old Billy knew this but he didn't mind, he was rotten with money and just enjoyed a game.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 05, 2018, 11:28:18 PM
Barry says that the blue moved. So what? It isn't Barry's fault. The ref shouldn't be entitled to put it back.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 05, 2018, 11:49:12 PM
I think Barry shopuld have gone for that tough pink along the baulk rail.

I posted that before he played the last safety btw


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2018, 11:51:51 PM
I think Barry shopuld have gone for that tough pink along the baulk rail

I think Barry will be thinking about a dozen other shots from that session, before he's thinking about his shot selection there.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 06, 2018, 12:00:26 AM
I think Barry shopuld have gone for that tough pink along the baulk rail

I think Barry will be thinking about a dozen other shots from that session, before he's thinking about his shot selection there.

The thing is he had a shot to win the frame and turned it down.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2018, 12:04:20 AM
I think Barry shopuld have gone for that tough pink along the baulk rail

I think Barry will be thinking about a dozen other shots from that session, before he's thinking about his shot selection there.

The thing is he had a shot to win the frame and turned it down.

It was a ball to win the frame, or lose the match.

Don't really blame him for erring on the side of caution.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 06, 2018, 12:08:40 AM
I think Barry shopuld have gone for that tough pink along the baulk rail

I think Barry will be thinking about a dozen other shots from that session, before he's thinking about his shot selection there.

The thing is he had a shot to win the frame and turned it down.



It was a ball to win the frame, or lose the match.

Don't really blame him for erring on the side of caution.

He could have gone for it and left the cue ball on the black rail almost a shot to nothing unless it rattles and hangs.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2018, 12:20:28 AM
I think Barry shopuld have gone for that tough pink along the baulk rail

I think Barry will be thinking about a dozen other shots from that session, before he's thinking about his shot selection there.

The thing is he had a shot to win the frame and turned it down.


It was a ball to win the frame, or lose the match.

Don't really blame him for erring on the side of caution.

He could have gone for it and left the cue ball on the black rail almost a shot to nothing unless it rattles and hangs.

I'll have to watch the frame again, so could be mistaken.

I'm not sure he'd have been going all the way back up the table with the angle he had.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on May 06, 2018, 03:03:49 PM
Williams just a tad relaxed

also nicking all of the cov fans sweets


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on May 06, 2018, 03:18:27 PM
shutting the eyes and potting the pink now


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on May 06, 2018, 03:21:24 PM
Showboating or disrespect?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2018, 03:33:18 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on May 06, 2018, 03:43:06 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Frame was over, unless I've got the wrong shot?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on May 06, 2018, 03:45:29 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Frame was over, unless I've got the wrong shot?

It was. Just can't imagine him getting away with it in a snooler club!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 06, 2018, 03:46:21 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Jordan Speith often putts looking at the hole rather than the ball and putting with eyes closed is said to relieve pressure so maybe potting and putting are similar.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2018, 03:49:12 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Frame was over, unless I've got the wrong shot?

It was. Just can't imagine him getting away with it in a snooler club!

Wait until he starts playing shots one handed ;D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on May 06, 2018, 03:51:01 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Frame was over, unless I've got the wrong shot?

It was. Just can't imagine him getting away with it in a snooler club!

Wait until he starts playing shots one handed ;D

Yes, well, we've all seen those shots from him. Played Mosconi Cup back in the day, IIRC


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2018, 03:52:09 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Frame was over, unless I've got the wrong shot?

It was. Just can't imagine him getting away with it in a snooler club!

Wait until he starts playing shots one handed ;D

Yes, well, we've all seen those shots from him. Played Mosconi Cup back in the day, IIRC

I used to supplement my wages playing pool one handed, when I was in the mob.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 06, 2018, 03:54:06 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Frame was over, unless I've got the wrong shot?

It was. Just can't imagine him getting away with it in a snooler club!



https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snool


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: booder on May 06, 2018, 04:11:24 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Frame was over, unless I've got the wrong shot?

It was. Just can't imagine him getting away with it in a snooler club!



https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snool

 ;gobsmacked;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 06, 2018, 05:41:26 PM
They said that he prob feels he's lining up different, and he wants to check.

Like the no-look green escape pot the other day?

It's confrontational.

Frame was over, unless I've got the wrong shot?

It was. Just can't imagine him getting away with it in a snooler club!



https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snool

 ;gobsmacked;

Top emoji-work that man.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 06, 2018, 10:21:11 PM
That patronizing git Parrott telling us that a shot was much better than it looked really gets my goat.

 :tikay:


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2018, 07:42:54 PM
What a clearance. No really, what a clearance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2018, 07:59:54 PM
What another clearance. No really. What another clearance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2018, 08:24:46 PM

What had looked like a flat final session is turning into something special.

I need Williams to get the job finished now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 07, 2018, 08:36:03 PM

What had looked like a flat final session is turning into something special.

I need Williams to get the job finished now.

Me too having refused to piss any equity up the wall when he was 1.06.

Higgins used to be one of my absolute favourite players too before he offered up his place in Spain to dump illicit gains from cheating in that sting video.

Great match nonetheless.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
I'm funking for Williams but you can't take it away from Higgins.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2018, 08:58:15 PM
I'm funking for Williams but you can't take it away from Higgins.

Same as that.

Just unreal.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2018, 09:19:12 PM
I'm funking for Williams but you can't take it away from Higgins.

Yup.

The tv coverage is not enhanced by repeated camera shots of the respective wife and kids in their viewing area oohing and aahing, with one eye on the camera and undoubtedly with a little prompting from the TV Director.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 07, 2018, 09:24:36 PM
Two thousand balls says Virgo.

I raise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukK9hjIYWmY


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2018, 09:28:11 PM
What a clearance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2018, 09:35:00 PM
I'm funking for Williams but you can't take it away from Higgins.

Yup.

The tv coverage is not enhanced by repeated camera shots of the respective wife and kids in their viewing area oohing and aahing, with one eye on the camera and undoubtedly with a little prompting from the TV Director.


I agree about the wife and kids thing. Wives should be at home washing up, kids should be in bed or playing outside.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2018, 09:36:20 PM
Surely he can't do it again?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2018, 09:41:07 PM
What a clearance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Woodsey on May 07, 2018, 09:41:52 PM
Never watch snooker, tuned in for the last session.........balls of steel these lads, JH especially  :o


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2018, 02:13:15 AM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYkEgxJIjYo

Up my boy!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5701151/The-sight-years-finalists-Crucible-familiar-theatres-seats.html


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2018, 01:04:26 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5701151/The-sight-years-finalists-Crucible-familiar-theatres-seats.html


amazing how angry some people can be in the comments against Willie, caps locks galore


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2018, 01:23:58 PM
https://twitter.com/markwil147

AWesome piss up diary for his all nighter!  What a guy Williams is.

He looks like he is staying in a £25 B&B with the trophy on a dodgy old looking drawer and tiny tv!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 07, 2018, 11:11:09 AM
Around 1985 or thereabouts, I used to play a lot of snooker in & around Nottingham.

I just about got on our Club's B Team - mainly because I had a car so could be the taxi driver for away matches.

I was in my mid-thirties, had a decent job, nice car, & was, I suppose, a bit of a Jack the lad.

We used to play a Team called Stadium Leisure. Nice club, match table with seats for the audience & everything. Karabiner will remember it, I'm quite sure, & he'll remember the player in this story, too.

As the weakest player in my Team, I was often used as the sacrificial lamb, & so I'd play the opposition hotpot who nobody could beat. It never bothered me, I never did have much ego. Well maybe a bit....

Anyway, I always ended up playing the same lad. He was about 12 years old. TWELVE years old. Waistcoat, goatee beard, very odd - or should we say distinctive - looking kid.  

And of course he marmalised me every time. It was always best of 3 or best of 5, & the score always ended something-0.

Nothing quite prepares a middle aged guy, doing OK in life, running a business, nice car, who gets totally humiliated by a 12 year old wearing a waistcoat. Ugh.


 (http://i.imgur.com/TiKknTB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/TiKknTB)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 07, 2018, 11:12:07 AM
Anyway, as you have probably guessed by now, Wonder Kid's name was Anthony Hamilton.

And because I kinda "knew him", I've followed his career ever since.

He was on TV yesterday, in the Semi Final of the European Masters, where he got beaten by Joe Perry.

And that's been the story of his life really. Not quite good enough to hack it at the top, always on the periphery of the snooker elite. The highest he ever got in the World Rankings was number 10.

He's been a pro for 27 years.

Never won anything, until, suddenly, in 2016, he won the German Masters.  It was his first Ranking Event win in 26 years. 26 years. Hard to imagine the joy he must have felt. In doing so, he became the oldest snooker pro to win a ranking event since Doug Mountjoy  nearly 30 years ago.

A couple of years ago, he said.....


I am rubbish now a lot of the time. I am getting old basically. It's no fun but it's better than working. I don't practice much anymore. I only play because it is better than working. I will have to work for a long time so I just want to swerve it for as long as possible

His career earnings are £1.4 milly. Sounds decent enough, but divide that by 27 years & you get around £50k per year. Travelling costs etc, it's peanuts really, though I guess he can pick up £500 or whatever per night for occasional exhibition matches & the like.

I could not help but wonder, as I watched him padding round the table yesterday, how much he must know about the Pro snooker scene. He has that tired & weary look about him, as well he might.

If ever there was a sporting journeyman Pro, it is him. And in a way, I envy him. Like he said, it's better than working.  


(http://i.imgur.com/K6OBqoc.jpg) (https://imgur.com/K6OBqoc)





Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 11, 2018, 04:59:35 PM


Jamie Jones suspended due to corruption inquiry;


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/45823530



(http://i.imgur.com/eC4gTJH.jpg) (https://imgur.com/eC4gTJH)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on October 11, 2018, 06:10:24 PM


Jamie Jones suspended due to corruption inquiry;


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/45823530



(http://i.imgur.com/eC4gTJH.jpg) (https://imgur.com/eC4gTJH)


Suspended? He wants hanging.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 20, 2018, 10:32:24 AM

In the English Open, currently being televised on Eurosport, we saw, I think, as phenomenal new talent last night, a young (18 year old) Chinese player named Luo Honghao, with the rather odd distinction of having chosen Pro Snooker over his other skill of being a Concert Pianist. Keep an eye on him, I think he has a bright future. 

Looks a real prospect. Doubt he weighs 5 stone wet, but a cue action to die for with a lovely pause on the backswing, & does not favour either eye. 

He went 0-2 down v Ronnie, looked a little dejected, but fought back to 3-2 up before losing 3-5. All attack, he played just 20 defensive shots over the 8 games, & fired in some cracking pots.

He's cack-handed, but plays right-handed with the rest, quite common I think.

One more unusual oddity is that he wears a glove, quite normal in Pool, but I can't recall many, if any, snooker players who wear one.


(http://i.imgur.com/UrTWK0v.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UrTWK0v)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 20, 2018, 10:34:39 AM

Got a bit of personality & attitude, too.

He was wearing those porcupine shoes which Judd Trump often wears, & look like they cost £3.99 in Argos, but apparently come in at £850 per pair.


(http://i.imgur.com/fdaschS.jpg) (https://imgur.com/fdaschS)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 20, 2018, 10:37:12 AM

Talking of Judd Trump, I may be imagining it, but his results seems to be in severe decline. A prodigious talent, but something is not right with him.

Meanwhile, Ryan Day, who has been an also-ran for so many years, seems to be in the form of his life, odd how that happens, as we saw it with Anthony Hamilton recently.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on October 20, 2018, 10:49:59 AM

In the English Open, currently being televised on Eurosport, we saw, I think, as phenomenal new talent last night, a young (18 year old) Chinese player named Luo Honghao, with the rather odd distinction of having chosen Pro Snooker over his other skill of being a Concert Pianist. Keep an eye on him, I think he has a bright future. 

Looks a real prospect. Doubt he weighs 5 stone wet, but a cue action to die for with a lovely pause on the backswing, & does not favour either eye. 

He went 0-2 down v Ronnie, looked a little dejected, but fought back to 3-2 up before losing 3-5. All attack, he played just 20 defensive shots over the 8 games, & fired in some cracking pots.

He's cack-handed, but plays right-handed with the rest, quite common I think.

One more unusual oddity is that he wears a glove, quite normal in Pool, but I can't recall many, if any, snooker players who wear one.


(http://i.imgur.com/UrTWK0v.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UrTWK0v)


I was very impressed with that young lad too - absolute Rolls-Royce of a cue-action - I even considered having a speculative EW bet on him for the WC.

500/1 was available but only with Denise for those lucky enough.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 20, 2018, 10:56:24 AM

In the English Open, currently being televised on Eurosport, we saw, I think, as phenomenal new talent last night, a young (18 year old) Chinese player named Luo Honghao, with the rather odd distinction of having chosen Pro Snooker over his other skill of being a Concert Pianist. Keep an eye on him, I think he has a bright future. 

Looks a real prospect. Doubt he weighs 5 stone wet, but a cue action to die for with a lovely pause on the backswing, & does not favour either eye. 

He went 0-2 down v Ronnie, looked a little dejected, but fought back to 3-2 up before losing 3-5. All attack, he played just 20 defensive shots over the 8 games, & fired in some cracking pots.

He's cack-handed, but plays right-handed with the rest, quite common I think.

One more unusual oddity is that he wears a glove, quite normal in Pool, but I can't recall many, if any, snooker players who wear one.


(http://i.imgur.com/UrTWK0v.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UrTWK0v)


I was very impressed with that young lad too - absolute Rolls-Royce of a cue-action - I even considered having a speculative EW bet on him for the WC.

500/1 was available but only with Denise for those lucky enough.

Yes, a gorgeous cue-action, & I liked everything about him. I had the same idea of backing him in future events, but have not actually done so yet. I'd certainly be interested at 500/1 for the WC if I were able.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 20, 2018, 10:58:43 AM

In the English Open, currently being televised on Eurosport, we saw, I think, as phenomenal new talent last night, a young (18 year old) Chinese player named Luo Honghao, with the rather odd distinction of having chosen Pro Snooker over his other skill of being a Concert Pianist. Keep an eye on him, I think he has a bright future. 

Looks a real prospect. Doubt he weighs 5 stone wet, but a cue action to die for with a lovely pause on the backswing, & does not favour either eye. 

He went 0-2 down v Ronnie, looked a little dejected, but fought back to 3-2 up before losing 3-5. All attack, he played just 20 defensive shots over the 8 games, & fired in some cracking pots.

He's cack-handed, but plays right-handed with the rest, quite common I think.

One more unusual oddity is that he wears a glove, quite normal in Pool, but I can't recall many, if any, snooker players who wear one.


(http://i.imgur.com/UrTWK0v.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UrTWK0v)


I was very impressed with that young lad too - absolute Rolls-Royce of a cue-action - I even considered having a speculative EW bet on him for the WC.

500/1 was available but only with Denise for those lucky enough.

Did you see the "missed" foul, Ralph?

It's here;


http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=68284.0


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on October 20, 2018, 11:07:52 AM

In the English Open, currently being televised on Eurosport, we saw, I think, as phenomenal new talent last night, a young (18 year old) Chinese player named Luo Honghao, with the rather odd distinction of having chosen Pro Snooker over his other skill of being a Concert Pianist. Keep an eye on him, I think he has a bright future. 

Looks a real prospect. Doubt he weighs 5 stone wet, but a cue action to die for with a lovely pause on the backswing, & does not favour either eye. 

He went 0-2 down v Ronnie, looked a little dejected, but fought back to 3-2 up before losing 3-5. All attack, he played just 20 defensive shots over the 8 games, & fired in some cracking pots.

He's cack-handed, but plays right-handed with the rest, quite common I think.

One more unusual oddity is that he wears a glove, quite normal in Pool, but I can't recall many, if any, snooker players who wear one.


(http://i.imgur.com/UrTWK0v.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UrTWK0v)


I was very impressed with that young lad too - absolute Rolls-Royce of a cue-action - I even considered having a speculative EW bet on him for the WC.

500/1 was available but only with Denise for those lucky enough.

Did you see the "missed" foul, Ralph?

It's here;


http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=68284.0

No I didn't see that Tony. I stopped watching for a bit when the young lad tightened up on a couple of shots after going 3-2 in front.

By the time I went back to watch it again Ronnie was doing his interview in the studio.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 21, 2018, 09:15:42 AM

After all the hoohah over the missed foul, Ronnie had what looked on paper an easy semi-final v Mark Davis, but was in poor form & was thrashed 6-1.

Most of us would prefer to see Ronnie in the Final, I suspect, but what a thrill it must have been for Mark Davis - his first ever ranking final after 27 years on the circuit. 

He'll collect a minimum of £30,000 if he loses, or £70,000 if he wins, so for a man who has won £1.3 million in a 27 year career (less than £50k per year) it's a big deal for the fella.

Something real nice to see a career journeyman have their moment of glory.


(http://i.imgur.com/BAw48Na.jpg) (https://imgur.com/BAw48Na)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on October 21, 2018, 09:53:02 AM
Just about to post the same thing

In golf betting a lot of people often talk about players being inspired by friends or players from the same country/area.

Jimmy Robertson won his maiden title last week, Mark Davis is from Hastings and Jimmy Robertson came up playing in Bexhill.

They played local league together when Robertson was very young and I presume Davis was some kind of mentor. One of those things that can never be proved either way really but must be something in Davis taking a boost from it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 29, 2018, 11:43:43 PM

There's a kid in the Snooker on Eurosport right now with the weirdest pre-shot routine ever.

Only a kid - decent kid too, a great prospect - goes by the name of Akani Songsermasawad, aka "Sunny Akani. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: scotty2hatty on October 29, 2018, 11:55:08 PM
He's cack-handed, but plays right-handed with the rest, quite common I think.

I play left handed (right with rest) despite being strongly right handed. Wonder if that's common.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 13, 2018, 02:22:23 PM
I wish Andy Goldstein would make his mind up where he wants to look when he asks a question or makes a comment.

In the time it takes him to utter 3 words he looks at the wrong camera, the right camera, the interviewee, the wrong camera, the pundits. and the wrong camera again.

Just look at the person you're talking to like someone normal would.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 13, 2018, 02:24:46 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 13, 2018, 02:28:01 PM
I mean Ronnie.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 13, 2018, 02:28:06 PM
I wish Andy Goldstein would make his mind up where he wants to look when he asks a question or makes a comment.

In the time it takes him to utter 3 words he looks at the wrong camera, the right camera, the interviewee, the wrong camera, the pundits. and the wrong camera again.

Just look at the person you're talking to like someone normal would.

Was pretty bad, I agree.

I suppose it was always going to be a let-down spot after watching Ronnie win 4-0 inside 45 minutes though. Extraordinary stuff.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 13, 2018, 02:34:55 PM
I know Selby is struggling a bit atm but he always looks like a winner.

Does he ever play the wrong shot?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 13, 2018, 02:39:54 PM
I think Hamilton has been copying my hair care regimen.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
http://www.snookerbacker.com/2018/11/13/ronnie-stirs-the-pot/

Good read.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2018, 03:12:04 PM
I think Hamilton has been copying my hair care regimen.

Could be worse, he could be copying mine :)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 13, 2018, 05:07:28 PM
http://www.snookerbacker.com/2018/11/13/ronnie-stirs-the-pot/

Good read.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2018, 05:50:53 PM
http://www.snookerbacker.com/2018/11/13/ronnie-stirs-the-pot/

Good read.

Thanks.

I tried finding his barney with Bazza on Twitter, but I find it too complicated to navigate around all the replies/threads etc.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 14, 2018, 01:58:56 PM
I love snooker me.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on November 14, 2018, 04:51:16 PM
Robertson could lose this match 4-0 to Selby with a 100% pot success rate if Selby clears up in this frame.  How biazzre is that?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 14, 2018, 07:25:44 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Frame 1. Ronnie already over his quota.


Tosser


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2018, 07:40:38 PM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Yr4tj2ZFe40Sc/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095bec7a1d6e435a4259a88929)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 14, 2018, 07:51:16 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Frame 1. Ronnie already over his quota.


Tosser

Bet you enjoyed Ronnie's break-off shot when the cue-ball clipped the blue before it even reached the pack.

Not sure I've ever seen that before.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 14, 2018, 07:59:17 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Frame 1. Ronnie already over his quota.


Tosser

Bet you enjoyed Ronnie's break-off shot when the cue-ball clipped the blue before it even reached the pack.

Not sure I've ever seen that before.


Truth is, win or lose I love to watch Ronnie, he just talks such bollocks.

As my mate Pete Hunsley from Barnsley would say, "Tommy lad, tha can mek thee maath say owt".


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2018, 08:34:02 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Frame 1. Ronnie already over his quota.


Tosser

Bet you enjoyed Ronnie's break-off shot when the cue-ball clipped the blue before it even reached the pack.

Not sure I've ever seen that before.

In Canada my old pal John "the Hat" used to call that break the San Francisco - when you break from just next to the brown and cross the blue before striking the opposite side of the pack.

I never did ask him why it was called that - and yes I did see him strike the blue when attempting it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 14, 2018, 08:39:45 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Frame 1. Ronnie already over his quota.


Tosser

Bet you enjoyed Ronnie's break-off shot when the cue-ball clipped the blue before it even reached the pack.

Not sure I've ever seen that before.

In Canada my old pal John "the Hat" used to call that break the San Francisco - when you break from just next to the brown and cross the blue before striking the opposite side of the pack.

I never did ask him why it was called that - and yes I did see him strike the blue when attempting it.


It's called the San Francisco because there's an art in it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 14, 2018, 08:53:32 PM
Trump. Wow!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2018, 08:56:14 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Frame 1. Ronnie already over his quota.


Tosser

Bet you enjoyed Ronnie's break-off shot when the cue-ball clipped the blue before it even reached the pack.

Not sure I've ever seen that before.

In Canada my old pal John "the Hat" used to call that break the San Francisco - when you break from just next to the brown and cross the blue before striking the opposite side of the pack.

I never did ask him why it was called that - and yes I did see him strike the blue when attempting it.


It's called the San Francisco because there's an art in it.

I seem to be getting easier to whooosh..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 14, 2018, 09:08:11 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Frame 1. Ronnie already over his quota.


Tosser

Bet you enjoyed Ronnie's break-off shot when the cue-ball clipped the blue before it even reached the pack.

Not sure I've ever seen that before.

In Canada my old pal John "the Hat" used to call that break the San Francisco - when you break from just next to the brown and cross the blue before striking the opposite side of the pack.

I never did ask him why it was called that - and yes I did see him strike the blue when attempting it.


It's called the San Francisco because there's an art in it.

I seem to be getting easier to whooosh..


Tony Bennett left it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2018, 11:03:59 PM
Ronnie announces he is limiting himself to no more than 5 safety shots per game.

Sigh.


Frame 1. Ronnie already over his quota.


Tosser

Bet you enjoyed Ronnie's break-off shot when the cue-ball clipped the blue before it even reached the pack.

Not sure I've ever seen that before.

In Canada my old pal John "the Hat" used to call that break the San Francisco - when you break from just next to the brown and cross the blue before striking the opposite side of the pack.

I never did ask him why it was called that - and yes I did see him strike the blue when attempting it.


It's called the San Francisco because there's an art in it.

I seem to be getting easier to whooosh..


Tony Bennett left it.

Ha. You should compile cryptic crosswords.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2018, 02:51:15 PM
They must have the table mic'd up differently than usual for this comp. Every shot sounds like a kick to me.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2018, 04:49:40 PM
Bloody Hell!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 17, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Bloody Hell!

Have you found it?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 17, 2018, 07:15:22 PM
I've yet to meet a serial cue-smasher that I like.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2018, 07:23:07 PM
I've yet to meet a serial cue-smasher that I like.

I know where you're coming from Ralph. It's a good indication of character.

I can count the number of times I've taken my temper out on an inanimate object on the fingers of one hand and still have enough left over to insult someone.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2018, 07:24:32 PM

BTW- I'm sure this statement has no meaning and is designed solely to whoosh me.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 17, 2018, 07:43:01 PM

BTW- I'm sure this statement has no meaning and is designed solely to whoosh me.

How very dare you?

I was referring to the aforementioned Tony Bennett's art.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2018, 07:58:16 PM

BTW- I'm sure this statement has no meaning and is designed solely to whoosh me.

How very dare you?

I was referring to the aforementioned Tony Bennett's art.


Touché.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
All credit to old fatty cue breaker for the clearance to take that last frame though.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2018, 09:22:03 PM
Now he's got his potting Eden.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2018, 09:25:11 PM
The Sharav of Pottingem.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 29, 2018, 02:25:25 PM


The UK Championships have begun, & full TV coverage (both BBC & Eurosport) starts on Saturday I believe.

There seems a recent obsession with "average shot time", & Barry Hearn has weighed in with a threat to punish those who are slow;



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46385872


Seems bang wrong to me. OK, sometimes watching, say, Ebdon can be a little frustrating, but I'm really not sure players should be obliged to be "on the clock" golf style.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 29, 2018, 02:42:07 PM


The UK Championships have begun, & full TV coverage (both BBC & Eurosport) starts on Saturday I believe.

There seems a recent obsession with "average shot time", & Barry Hearn has weighed in with a threat to punish those who are slow;



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46385872


Seems bang wrong to me. OK, sometimes watching, say, Ebdon can be a little frustrating, but I'm really not sure players should be obliged to be "on the clock" golf style.


Difficult to argue with Hearn but he's in danger of fixing something that isn't broken here. Lots of people, probably dozens, love the slow tactical game.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 29, 2018, 04:07:32 PM
It's only on pay per view?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 29, 2018, 05:29:17 PM
It's only on pay per view?

Don't think that's the case Tom.

It is PPV right now, till they play down to 64 or whatever, but it then goes to regular TV (BBC & Eurosport) starting this Saturday as I understand it.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46113505


http://www.worldsnooker.com/betway-uk-championship-bbc-and-eurosport-schedules/


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 29, 2018, 05:47:56 PM


^^^^^

Confirmed, regular coverage from this Saturday on both BBC & Eurosport.

At present - until Saturday - it is on "Eurosport Player" which I suppose is code for PPV or somesuch. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 29, 2018, 05:53:07 PM


Here's the Wiki page for the draw & stuff;


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_UK_Championship


At present they are completing the round of 128, or what Ronnie rather arrogantly but amusingly refers to as "the numpty rounds". 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 29, 2018, 05:56:04 PM
Cheers Tone.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: peejaytwo on November 29, 2018, 08:32:41 PM
Selby/Cahill and Williams/Duffy on the B365 live stream atm


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 29, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
Selby/Cahill and Williams/Duffy on the B365 live stream atm


Thanks.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2018, 01:33:01 AM
Numpty strikes back.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 30, 2018, 06:53:29 AM
Numpty strikes back.

Yup, Selby beaten by amateur, & earlier in the week Shaun Murphy was whopped by the world 130th or whatever. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on December 01, 2018, 09:35:00 AM
Chinese burnt


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2018, 11:51:00 AM
Sorry to hear that Cau is involved as I liked him as a player.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on December 01, 2018, 12:54:08 PM
Numptys get their wages in different ways.  Many ways to skin a cat


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 02, 2018, 02:06:13 PM
What form Ken is in.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 03, 2018, 11:00:28 AM

On that day of the Welsh Open, 38 betting accounts in the Far East - using sophisticated computer software - attempted to place a total of £250,000 in one second on the result of Cao's match against twice World Championship runner-up Ali Carter.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46411743


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 03, 2018, 11:01:22 AM

Ronnie O'Sullivan says he is "ready to go" and form a breakaway "Champions League-style" snooker tour.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46419267


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2018, 01:23:58 PM

Ronnie O'Sullivan says he is "ready to go" and form a breakaway "Champions League-style" snooker tour.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46419267

I want to see qualifiers playing top players.

I don't think players banned for match fixing should be brought back.

I do think Hearn has too much power, especially when he gets on about shot speed etc.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 03, 2018, 07:53:47 PM
Luca Brecel had Lu Ning difficulty this afternoon.

 ;marks;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 03, 2018, 08:43:58 PM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on December 04, 2018, 06:41:13 AM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.

We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.

But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.

It's a complete anachronism.

Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.

Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2018, 08:20:18 AM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.

We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.

But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.

It's a complete anachronism.

Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.

Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.


Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on December 04, 2018, 08:58:38 AM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.

We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.

But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.

It's a complete anachronism.

Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.

Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.


Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.

If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on December 04, 2018, 09:19:16 AM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.

We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.

But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.

It's a complete anachronism.

Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.

Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.


Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.

If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.

Is it a problem? The ref gets some help from the players, who want the ball in the same place because that means their adjustments on the shot mean something. I’m not aware of any contentious situations that have come from this.

Any camera setup would inevitably suffer from some degree of parallax and then you’re back to that eighth of a frazzle which the players can see.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 04, 2018, 09:20:31 AM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.

We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.

But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.

It's a complete anachronism.

Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.

Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.


Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.

If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.



I know what you're saying, but footballers from both teams never get down to the level of the playing surface and look at the ball from the perfect angle, and the ball is never never stationary at the moment in question.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on December 04, 2018, 09:23:42 AM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.

We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.

But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.

It's a complete anachronism.

Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.

Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.


Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.

If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.

Is it a problem? The ref gets some help from the players, who want the ball in the same place because that means their adjustments on the shot mean something. I’m not aware of any contentious situations that have come from this.

Any camera setup would inevitably suffer from some degree of parallax and then you’re back to that eighth of a frazzle which the players can see.


It's a problem in that it's needlessly inexact and left to human interpretation and judgment, when it's actually a point of fact as to where a ball was.

I get it's not a major issue. It just seems rather 20th century to me and snooker being left behind is a bad thing.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on December 04, 2018, 09:28:23 AM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.

We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.

But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.

It's a complete anachronism.

Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.

Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.


Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.

If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.

Is it a problem? The ref gets some help from the players, who want the ball in the same place because that means their adjustments on the shot mean something. I’m not aware of any contentious situations that have come from this.

Any camera setup would inevitably suffer from some degree of parallax and then you’re back to that eighth of a frazzle which the players can see.


It's a problem in that it's needlessly inexact and left to human interpretation and judgment, when it's actually a point of fact as to where a ball was.

I get it's not a major issue. It just seems rather 20th century to me and snooker being left behind is a bad thing.

When a golfer marks his ball on the putting green should we be taking a photo so that it goes back in exactly the same spot?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on December 04, 2018, 09:33:34 AM

In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.

Imagine that in football.

"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"

Love snooker.

We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.

But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.

It's a complete anachronism.

Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.

Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.


Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.

If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.

Is it a problem? The ref gets some help from the players, who want the ball in the same place because that means their adjustments on the shot mean something. I’m not aware of any contentious situations that have come from this.

Any camera setup would inevitably suffer from some degree of parallax and then you’re back to that eighth of a frazzle which the players can see.


It's a problem in that it's needlessly inexact and left to human interpretation and judgment, when it's actually a point of fact as to where a ball was.

I get it's not a major issue. It just seems rather 20th century to me and snooker being left behind is a bad thing.

When a golfer marks his ball on the putting green should we be taking a photo so that it goes back in exactly the same spot?


We already do, don't we? The ball flight on a drive is tracked, so presumably this can be done.

That would be next on my list.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 05, 2018, 01:56:41 PM

What a wonderful clearance there by Ronnie to go 2-1 up v Lisowski. Lisowski is playing very well, too.

Good match in prospect.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 05, 2018, 02:19:26 PM

What a wonderful clearance there by Ronnie to go 2-1 up v Lisowski. Lisowski is playing very well, too.

Good match in prospect.


Lisowski, yet another brilliant left-hander.

How come you didn't turn pro with such an obvious advantage? You should be ashamed of yourself.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2018, 02:43:55 PM

What a wonderful clearance there by Ronnie to go 2-1 up v Lisowski. Lisowski is playing very well, too.

Good match in prospect.

In prospect yes, but far too many careless mistakes to call it a high-quality match so far.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 05, 2018, 04:34:13 PM
"Stephen has gone through the gears like a rocket ship"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 05, 2018, 09:52:10 PM
Mark Allen great left-hander v Neil Robertson great left-hander.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 06, 2018, 05:10:56 PM
Just watching Martin O'Donnell. Great left hander.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2018, 08:14:33 PM
Just watching Mark Allen. Great left hander.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 08, 2018, 01:23:51 AM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBqNBVUE8V8

This was quite interesting.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 08, 2018, 09:22:48 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJoCnQLFNHs


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on December 08, 2018, 09:39:29 AM
Barry Hearn to have words with Ronnie O'Sullivan over his 'damaging' outbursts about a snooker breakaway
https://ind.pn/2EaJE3w


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on December 08, 2018, 09:47:07 AM
I for one was shocked that Davis sided with Hearn


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 08, 2018, 02:57:24 PM
I for one was shocked that Davis sided with Hearn

Am I being whooshed here?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 08, 2018, 02:59:07 PM
I don't agree with everything Hearn says but he's great at what he does

I'd rather have him inside my tent pissing out than outside pissing in.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 08, 2018, 02:59:47 PM
Not big on cooey wooey though is he?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 08, 2018, 04:07:59 PM
I for one was shocked that Davis sided with Hearn

For what reason, John?

I'd have been shocked if he didn't :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 08, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJoCnQLFNHs

That was interesting, too.

Like you say, sooner have him inside pissing out :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 08, 2018, 06:25:48 PM
I for one was shocked that Davis sided with Hearn

Am I being whooshed here?

Probably.

John was almost certainly being ironic.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 08, 2018, 06:27:48 PM
I for one was shocked that Davis sided with Hearn

For what reason, John?

I'd have been shocked if he didn't :D



It's usually me that gets whooshed by these things, but today, take a bow Tom & McMarky.



(http://i.imgur.com/lPbflkJ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/lPbflkJ)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 08, 2018, 07:09:00 PM
:)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 09, 2018, 08:26:17 PM

Tonight's evening session of the final has been something of an anticlimax so far. No tension, not much crash bang wallop, and poor defensive shots. Maybe it'll liven up in a bit, but it's a tough watch, even more so as Gill is here for a few days, and I know she wants to watch the Strictly bollox.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2018, 08:46:46 PM

Tonight's evening session of the final has been something of an anticlimax so far. No tension, not much crash bang wallop, and poor defensive shots. Maybe it'll liven up in a bit, but it's a tough watch, even more so as Gill is here for a few days, and I know she wants to watch the Strictly bollox.

Get a as second telly or watch snooker on your lappy.

Or, give in and watch strictly, you might enjoy it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 09, 2018, 08:53:15 PM

Tonight's evening session of the final has been something of an anticlimax so far. No tension, not much crash bang wallop, and poor defensive shots. Maybe it'll liven up in a bit, but it's a tough watch, even more so as Gill is here for a few days, and I know she wants to watch the Strictly bollox.

Get a as second telly or watch snooker on your lappy.

Or, give in and watch strictly, you might enjoy it.

Have given her the zapper and I am watching the snooker on my ippy.

Watch Strictly? Me? Ain't gonna happen. Ever.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 09, 2018, 09:54:09 PM

I just found myself watching around 90 seconds of that jungle thing with Harry Redknapp.

Please tell me that grown-ups don't watch such utter shite? 

Surely it's for 5 to 7 year olds at the very max?

God give me strength if any grown ups watch that.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 09, 2018, 10:21:54 PM
My old dear loves it :D

I've just been watching the GOAT, racking up records.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 09, 2018, 10:24:16 PM
My old dear loves it :D

I've just been watching the GOAT, racking up records.

Has to be the best ever ever ever. Not even gonna ask. He just is.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 09, 2018, 10:44:54 PM
My old dear loves it :D

I've just been watching the GOAT, racking up records.

Has to be the best ever ever ever. Not even gonna ask. He just is.

Spent half his career being a loon, and still won all he has.

Much more competitive now, too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on December 12, 2018, 12:21:06 AM
https://twitter.com/FramesAcademy/status/1072495218740596739

Did anyone see this on twitter.  I got sent it today and asked who it was?   Truly incredible how much a person can change.  No one i know has guessed who it was without being told.  I looked at it for ages and didn't have a clue who is was even though i was told it was snooker related.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 12, 2018, 12:33:22 AM
https://twitter.com/FramesAcademy/status/1072495218740596739

Did anyone see this on twitter.  I got sent it today and asked who it was?   Truly incredible how much a person can change.  No one i know has guessed who it was without being told.  I looked at it for ages and didn't have a clue who is was even though i was told it was snooker related.

Would never have guessed in a million years (without the spoiler).


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on December 12, 2018, 01:14:05 AM
They're on the wind up, that's Nirvana ;D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 12, 2018, 08:53:09 AM
They're on the wind up, that's Nirvana ;D

WAY too young to be Glenda.

Don't know what's the matter with you guys, was easy to guess who it was.


(http://i.imgur.com/9F41Ibo.jpg) (https://imgur.com/9F41Ibo)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2018, 03:45:30 PM
Zhao Xiatong. What a great young left-hander.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 13, 2018, 04:14:44 PM
Ronnie gives some great insights during his commentary stints, but I think he went to the Mrs Red school of shutting up.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 14, 2018, 03:15:01 PM
watching mark Allen, left hander, playing Alfie Burden, left hander.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 15, 2018, 01:14:35 PM
Daniel Wells, yet another left hander.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 13, 2019, 09:58:06 PM
Masters Snooker started today, decent match Live on Eurosport right now between Higgins and Day, 4-4, first to 6.

Turn off when they cut back to the studio though, Colin Murray is in one of his more annoying moods, even by his standards.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on January 13, 2019, 10:36:16 PM
Masters Snooker started today, decent match Live on Eurosport right now between Higgins and Day, 4-4, first to 6.

Turn off when they cut back to the studio though, Colin Murray is in one of his more annoying moods, even by his standards.

Old EPT Murray :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 14, 2019, 02:04:43 PM
One commentator makes an observation, all the others and the pundits latch on to it and harp on about it for hours.

"This cloth is quite reactive"

"Very reactive this cloth"

"Hard to judge pace with a cloth as reactive as this"

"Who will get used to the cloth's reactivity first?"

"Wow! Look at the reaction on that cloth"

"So Steve, tell us why this cloth is so reactive and how it will affect the rest of the match".



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on January 15, 2019, 12:47:25 PM
Not had a chance to watch any yet, but see Ronnie spanked Bingham, and Allen got beaten by Luca.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 15, 2019, 02:23:56 PM
Today's catchphrase?

"The balls resolve themselves"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 15, 2019, 02:26:51 PM
BTW- If I were commontatering I would be dire.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 15, 2019, 08:07:01 PM
BTW- If I were commontatering I would be dire.

Commonest Tater ever Indubitably.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2019, 09:22:32 PM

The Masters has been a bit flat so far, but there's and excellent match tonight between Ding and Brucel, currently 4-4 best of 11.

Very entertaining match, Brucel really playing well at the moment, despite a badly damaged tip.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 17, 2019, 09:45:31 PM

The Masters has been a bit flat so far, but there's and excellent match tonight between Ding and Brucel, currently 4-4 best of 11.

Very entertaining match, Brucel really playing well at the moment, despite a badly damaged tip.

Damaged tips on both cues?

I dived in on Ding @1.93 earlier after I saw Luca cue a couple of shots terribly, but soon dived out again @1.82 - I'm currrently freerolling Ding for £1.07.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2019, 09:47:44 PM

Wow, extraordinary end to frame 9, most odd.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: horseplayer on January 17, 2019, 09:49:46 PM
have some of the pdc darts crowd got lost?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2019, 10:02:43 PM
have some of the pdc darts crowd got lost?

Ha.

They had been ok prior to that, but the audience seemed to resent the decision which ended the previous frame and took against Brucel.

The decision was perfectly correct though, and it was Ding's own fault. Almost suspect the audience don't know the rules.

All set for a great ending now though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 19, 2019, 08:38:42 PM

Ronnie eased into the Final earlier today, he was imperious at times.

This evening, Robertson & Mardy Trump are tied at 2-2, I'm hoping Robertson takes it.

One curiosity of this Masters is that there have been no Female referees, & most Tournaments these days have their quota of them. Any idea why this is? Is there a grading system for Snooker Referees?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 19, 2019, 08:41:53 PM

Ronnie eased into the Final earlier today, he was imperious at times.

This evening, Robertson & Mardy Trump are tied at 2-2, I'm hoping Robertson takes it.

One curiosity of this Masters is that there have been no Female referees, & most Tournaments these days have their quota of them. Any idea why this is? Is there a grading system for Snooker Referees?

Yes, that one with the high heels is at least a 7.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 19, 2019, 09:19:01 PM
When a player has potted a couple of reds and colours and they put that graphic up saying that he needs to get to something like say, 75  to win the frame, well what if he then potted 12 reds and 12 yellows? he would be at the 'snookers required' stage and he would be no where near 75.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on January 19, 2019, 10:53:04 PM
When a player has potted a couple of reds and colours and they put that graphic up saying that he needs to get to something like say, 75  to win the frame, well what if he then potted 12 reds and 12 yellows? he would be at the 'snookers required' stage and he would be no where near 75.

The graphic would change.




Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 19, 2019, 10:55:53 PM
When a player has potted a couple of reds and colours and they put that graphic up saying that he needs to get to something like say, 75  to win the frame, well what if he then potted 12 reds and 12 yellows? he would be at the 'snookers required' stage and he would be no where near 75.

The graphic would change.





If it did it would mean the first graphic was wrong.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: buzzharvey22 on January 19, 2019, 11:53:42 PM
Has anyone else heard a lot of heavy objects dropping on the floor through out the tournament?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bunnydas8888 on January 20, 2019, 01:36:26 AM
When a player has potted a couple of reds and colours and they put that graphic up saying that he needs to get to something like say, 75  to win the frame, well what if he then potted 12 reds and 12 yellows? he would be at the 'snookers required' stage and he would be no where near 75.

The graphic would change.





If it did it would mean the first graphic was wrong.

No, it just means the circumstances have changed. Think of darts, a player has 50 left, the graphic will show 1 possible way of taking that out, doesn't mean the player has to go that particular way about it


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 20, 2019, 09:29:30 AM
When a player has potted a couple of reds and colours and they put that graphic up saying that he needs to get to something like say, 75  to win the frame, well what if he then potted 12 reds and 12 yellows? he would be at the 'snookers required' stage and he would be no where near 75.

The graphic would change.





If it did it would mean the first graphic was wrong.

No, it just means the circumstances have changed. Think of darts, a player has 50 left, the graphic will show 1 possible way of taking that out, doesn't mean the player has to go that particular way about it

No. The graphic says he needs to reach that number, it says nothing about how he gets there.

The graphic is wrong before he plays another shot.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 20, 2019, 09:46:52 AM
Extreme example.

If a player made a break of 16 consisting of two reds and two blacks, the graphic would say he needed to reach a score of around 75 to reach the 'snookers required' stage. But if he went on to pot the remaining 13 reds without colours he would be at that stage with a score of only 29.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Doobs on January 20, 2019, 09:55:47 AM
It is a simplified graphic; putting up the full distribution of possible outcomes may be correct, but most people will not understand it.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 20, 2019, 11:10:45 AM
It is a simplified graphic; putting up the full distribution of possible outcomes may be correct, but most people will not understand it.



Like Brexit you mean?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on January 20, 2019, 11:17:51 AM
Extreme example.

If a player made a break of 16 consisting of two reds and two blacks, the graphic would say he needed to reach a score of around 75 to reach the 'snookers required' stage. But if he went on to pot the remaining 13 reds without colours he would be at that stage with a score of only 29.

At the start of every frame 74 is the target.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Longines on January 20, 2019, 11:21:16 AM

At the start of every frame 74 is the target.

73.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 20, 2019, 12:54:50 PM
Extreme example.

If a player made a break of 16 consisting of two reds and two blacks, the graphic would say he needed to reach a score of around 75 to reach the 'snookers required' stage. But if he went on to pot the remaining 13 reds without colours he would be at that stage with a score of only 29.

At the start of every frame 74 is the target.

How does that account for my scenario then?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Doobs on January 20, 2019, 01:05:31 PM
It is a simplified graphic; putting up the full distribution of possible outcomes may be correct, but most people will not understand it.



Like Brexit you mean?

There are probably a few similar situations from Brexit.  If you look at the original source marerial for official forecasts, they do produce loads of different scenarios,  mostly bad, some good.   The central forecast will be an £x billion hit to the economy.  People pick up on the central forecast, as their eyes glaze over at the wall of figures (this appeared to include George Osbourne).   Everyone focuses on that central figure and expects some one off hit that is easy to see.  

When it doesn't happen as they understood it, they say tah da, Brexit has had no effect.  

It is a bit more complex than that, but it is near impossible to explain to everyone and near impossible to quantify the actual effect (even after the event).  

Hence things get simplified to he needs 36 to force snookers and there will be a 5% hit to GDP.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 20, 2019, 01:19:48 PM
It is a simplified graphic; putting up the full distribution of possible outcomes may be correct, but most people will not understand it.



Like Brexit you mean?

There are probably a few similar situations from Brexit.  If you look at the original source marerial for official forecasts, they do produce loads of different scenarios,  mostly bad, some good.   The central forecast will be an £x billion hit to the economy.  People pick up on the central forecast, as their eyes glaze over at the wall of figures (this appeared to include George Osbourne).   Everyone focuses on that central figure and expects some one off hit that is easy to see.  

When it doesn't happen as they understood it, they say tah da, Brexit has had no effect.  

It is a bit more complex than that, but it is near impossible to explain to everyone and near impossible to quantify the actual effect (even after the event).  

Hence things get simplified to he needs 36 to force snookers and there will be a 5% hit to GDP.

Thanks Doobs. Your explanation proves you understand what I'm talking about and also proves my point perfectly. The graphic is wrong.

Useful, but wrong.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Doobs on January 20, 2019, 01:36:26 PM
It is a simplified graphic; putting up the full distribution of possible outcomes may be correct, but most people will not understand it.



Like Brexit you mean?

There are probably a few similar situations from Brexit.  If you look at the original source marerial for official forecasts, they do produce loads of different scenarios,  mostly bad, some good.   The central forecast will be an £x billion hit to the economy.  People pick up on the central forecast, as their eyes glaze over at the wall of figures (this appeared to include George Osbourne).   Everyone focuses on that central figure and expects some one off hit that is easy to see.  

When it doesn't happen as they understood it, they say tah da, Brexit has had no effect.  

It is a bit more complex than that, but it is near impossible to explain to everyone and near impossible to quantify the actual effect (even after the event).  

Hence things get simplified to he needs 36 to force snookers and there will be a 5% hit to GDP.

Thanks Doobs. Your explanation proves you understand what I'm talking about and also proves my point perfectly. The graphic is wrong.

Useful, but wrong.

like a tube map.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 20, 2019, 01:38:17 PM

^^^^^^

Exactly that.

Meanwhile, Trump races to a 2-0 lead, Ronnie has played about 2 shots in total.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on January 20, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
Ronnie gonna need something special to even make this a competition after that session.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 20, 2019, 06:05:28 PM
Any unusual betting patterns?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on January 20, 2019, 07:28:53 PM
Didn't even look at Betty, but can't imagine there were.

Think Trump only attempts coups with his pals.

Might be over in time for the Saints v Rams game.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 02, 2019, 01:40:45 PM
Wohin geht der Spielball?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 07, 2019, 06:07:53 PM


World Grand Prix: Mark Allen concedes frame and match with 11 reds left



I watched some of this, & it was evident early doors that his head had gone. 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/47162102


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 07, 2019, 06:09:49 PM

Ahh, blame the table.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/47162102


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 07, 2019, 07:08:35 PM
Fair enough.

Which table was Carter playing on BTW?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Knottikay on February 12, 2019, 11:26:35 PM
Hardly anyone left in the arena to watch Neil Robertson's latest 147. He followed it up with a 140 match winning break. Great stuff.

Glad I manage to play late night poker to watch sport like that sometimes.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on February 21, 2019, 03:29:58 PM
I tuned into Eurosport to watch a bit of the Snooker Shootout

Lasted about 10 seconds before I switched off.

The "shot clock" is bonging like a cheap game show, the audience are heckling hollering and hooting in the style of the premier league darts audience, the players and referee are not dressed properly, and the players are - literally - running around the table It's A Knockout style.

Everything about it is horrible beyond words.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on February 21, 2019, 06:16:00 PM
I tuned into Eurosport to watch a bit of the Snooker Shootout

Lasted about 10 seconds before I switched off.

The "shot clock" is bonging like a cheap game show, the audience are heckling hollering and hooting in the style of the premier league darts audience, the players and referee are not dressed properly, and the players are - literally - running around the table It's A Knockout style.

Everything about is is horrible beyond words.


Amen.

Why does everything have to become a chavathon?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 05, 2019, 02:12:45 PM

By way of a reminder that the Players championship is love on ITV at present, here's an interview Ronnie gave yesterday.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/snooker/47441567

Has he lost the plot?

He seems to have gone a bit daft as to his comments on ranking points on his Twitter feed too.


https://twitter.com/ronnieo147


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2019, 02:33:58 PM
I saw that ranking points thing on Twitter :D

Off his rocker!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 07, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
First two semi-final matches are all left-handers.

It's too much to be a quinkidink.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 08, 2019, 12:56:28 PM
It's glaringly obvious that Jill Douglas knows absolutely nothing about snooker.

I don't mind but it makes life difficult for the pundits when she asks questions that they've answered in the previous sentence.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 08, 2019, 01:16:29 PM
It's glaringly obvious that Jill Douglas knows absolutely nothing about snooker.

I don't mind but it makes life difficult for the pundits when she asks questions that they've answered in the previous sentence.

It's embarrassing to watch.

It's not her fault she was given the job, but it's hard to understand.

When she conducts the on-screen chats, I cringe every time, & so do those bring questioned.

On the plus side, full marks to ITV4 who cover snooker extremely well, a distinct & welcome lack of gimmicks, bells & whistles, & in Hendry, the best snooker commentator by a mile.

If only they covered horse racing even half as well. It's Cheltenham next week, & Mr Chamberlain will be giving it all the "fantastic", "best ever", "history being made" schmultz.  Get outa there Ed, & leave it to Francesca, who I plan to marry.


(http://i.imgur.com/xETMYjA.jpg) (https://imgur.com/xETMYjA)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 08, 2019, 01:32:10 PM
Hendry is great but he assumes everyone likes to see fast-paced pot-fests and dislikes long tactical battles just because he does.

Clive Everton at 81 still has it IMO.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 08, 2019, 01:34:26 PM
Hendry is great but he assumes everyone likes to see fast-paced pot-fests and dislikes long tactical battles just because he does.

Clive Everton at 81 still has it IMO.

Yes, a big fan of Clive Everton, too, though I think Francesca would do a good job too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 08, 2019, 02:42:11 PM
Still in grumpy mode- Do audience members never tire of pointing, waving and laughing at themselves on the monitor?

Surely five or six times each is enough.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 08, 2019, 03:04:14 PM
"That cue-ball came off the cushion almost twice as fast as it went on".

Oh yeah? Try telling that to prof Brian Cox and he'll tell you to fuck off.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: youthnkzR on March 08, 2019, 05:33:13 PM
"That cue-ball came off the cushion almost twice as fast as it went on".

Oh yeah? Try telling that to prof Brian Cox and he'll tell you to fuck off.

Surely that’s possible with backspin or am I missing something?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 08, 2019, 07:58:09 PM
First semi-final, two left-handers. What are the chances?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 08, 2019, 08:06:25 PM
"That cue-ball came off the cushion almost twice as fast as it went on".

Oh yeah? Try telling that to prof Brian Cox and he'll tell you to fuck off.

Surely that’s possible with backspin or am I missing something?


Yes sorry, it could be done with running side but It was a plain-ball shot.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on March 09, 2019, 05:44:42 AM
"That cue-ball came off the cushion almost twice as fast as it went on".

Oh yeah? Try telling that to prof Brian Cox and he'll tell you to fuck off.

Surely that’s possible with backspin or am I missing something?


Yes sorry, it could be done with running side but It was a plain-ball shot.

Against the nap, cushion, with the nap?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 09, 2019, 09:19:23 AM
"That cue-ball came off the cushion almost twice as fast as it went on".

Oh yeah? Try telling that to prof Brian Cox and he'll tell you to fuck off.

Surely that’s possible with backspin or am I missing something?


Yes sorry, it could be done with running side but It was a plain-ball shot.

Against the nap, cushion, with the nap?

Put simply, no. That's like saying if you roll a ball across a carpet it's speed will double when it hits the lino.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on March 09, 2019, 11:17:25 AM
"That cue-ball came off the cushion almost twice as fast as it went on".

Oh yeah? Try telling that to prof Brian Cox and he'll tell you to fuck off.

Surely that’s possible with backspin or am I missing something?


Yes sorry, it could be done with running side but It was a plain-ball shot.

Against the nap, cushion, with the nap?

Put simply, no. That's like saying if you roll a ball across a carpet it's speed will double when it hits the lino.

But it would roll further giving the impression that it had "sprung" off the cushion.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on March 09, 2019, 02:07:30 PM
"That cue-ball came off the cushion almost twice as fast as it went on".

Oh yeah? Try telling that to prof Brian Cox and he'll tell you to fuck off.

Surely that’s possible with backspin or am I missing something?


Yes sorry, it could be done with running side but It was a plain-ball shot.

Against the nap, cushion, with the nap?

Put simply, no. That's like saying if you roll a ball across a carpet it's speed will double when it hits the lino.

Up hill to the cushion?

Against the wind to the cushion?

There must be an explanation because the commentators obviously observed the phemonenom,


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 09, 2019, 04:31:55 PM
"That cue-ball came off the cushion almost twice as fast as it went on".

Oh yeah? Try telling that to prof Brian Cox and he'll tell you to fuck off.

Surely that’s possible with backspin or am I missing something?


Yes sorry, it could be done with running side but It was a plain-ball shot.

Against the nap, cushion, with the nap?

Put simply, no. That's like saying if you roll a ball across a carpet it's speed will double when it hits the lino.

Up hill to the cushion?

Against the wind to the cushion?

There must be an explanation because the commentators obviously observed the phemonenom,

Yet again, no. They merely said it.

They also said that Ronnie O'Sullivan was "Going like a train" and John Higgins was "Beside himself".


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 10, 2019, 08:31:14 PM

Those at the front of the audience rushing to congratulate Ronnie on his 1,000th century included Andy Bradshaw, 100% sure it was him.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 10, 2019, 08:35:17 PM

1,000 centuries - quite extraordinary.

One of the great sporting milestones IMO.

Be a relief not to have the to commentators and pundits weeing themselves every frame and boring us to bits with the  "will it be this frame?" stuff though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 10, 2019, 09:07:00 PM

Those at the front of the audience rushing to congratulate Ronnie on his 1,000th century included Andy Bradshaw, 100% sure it was him.

Yep. I said that to the family and they said "Who?"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: booder on March 11, 2019, 09:02:51 AM

Those at the front of the audience rushing to congratulate Ronnie on his 1,000th century included Andy Bradshaw, 100% sure it was him.

Was he talking ?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 11, 2019, 10:33:37 AM

Those at the front of the audience rushing to congratulate Ronnie on his 1,000th century included Andy Bradshaw, 100% sure it was him.

Was he talking ?

Oh yes, lots. ;)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 11, 2019, 11:22:23 AM
Proper total clearance, too ;D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 11, 2019, 12:23:08 PM
Proper total clearance, too ;D

The white going in saved Robertson £5k. He seemed Pleased.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 11, 2019, 12:36:22 PM
Proper total clearance, too ;D

The white going in saved Robertson £5k. He seemed Pleased.

Yeah, I saw that on the clip :D

Looked like Ronnie didn't even know.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 19, 2019, 11:14:22 PM

The ITV4 coverage of the snooker this week has been as near perfect as it gets.

Good commentary, mainly by Hendry, good pundits, with McManus in particular, and a relieving absence of bells and whistles.

The only blemish has been the dibby female Presenter, who is way out of her depth and has no idea about snooker.

It's quite remarkable how good ITV have become with Sports presentation compared to 5 years ago.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: engy on March 20, 2019, 11:39:17 AM
You think she's been given the job because she's female Tikay? Seems a lot more of it going on in the sports pundit world


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 20, 2019, 12:35:21 PM
You think she's been given the job because she's female Tikay? Seems a lot more of it going on in the sports pundit world

Unfortunately, yes, & we will see lots more of this in the future I'm afraid.

And I should add, it's not her fault, she has done nothing wrong.

Sad times when everything requires it's "quota" to be filled. Sky Sports Golf is another great example, where Sarah Shriek brings nothing but banality to the Presentation, and meanwhile we are denied the excellent Henni Zuel.  

 

(http://i.imgur.com/i8WCiU8.jpg) (https://imgur.com/i8WCiU8)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 20, 2019, 12:44:23 PM
Virtually every advert has to have a mixed-race couple, a disabled person and a member of the LGBT community.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: DropTheHammer on March 20, 2019, 12:56:08 PM
Virtually every advert has to have a mixed-race couple, a disabled person and a member of the LGBT community.

Probably every family has one of the above, so what’s the problem with replicating the population in adverts? Is it really PC gone mad, or is it showing youngsters that all the above have a valid place in society? Better a kid asks the embarrassing questions at home (eg why has that lady got no arms?) rather than when they say it within earshot of the person!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 20, 2019, 12:57:48 PM
Virtually every advert has to have a mixed-race couple, a disabled person and a member of the LGBT community.

Probably every family has one of the above, so what’s the problem with replicating the population in adverts? Is it really PC gone mad, or is it showing youngsters that all the above have a valid place in society? Better a kid asks the embarrassing questions at home (eg why has that lady got no arms?) rather than when they say it within earshot of the person!


Fair comment.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 20, 2019, 02:28:49 PM

The ITV4 coverage of the snooker this week has been as near perfect as it gets.

Good commentary, mainly by Hendry, good pundits, with McManus in particular, and a relieving absence of bells and whistles.

The only blemish has been the dibby female Presenter, who is way out of her depth and has no idea about snooker.

It's quite remarkable how good ITV have become with Sports presentation compared to 5 years ago.


She's started miming shots as she talks about them now.

"Trump didn't use his power shots in that frame at all did he?" *Cocks elbow and swings forearm vigorously.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Doobs on March 20, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
You think she's been given the job because she's female Tikay? Seems a lot more of it going on in the sports pundit world

Unfortunately, yes, & we will see lots more of this in the future I'm afraid.

And I should add, it's not her fault, she has done nothing wrong.

Sad times when everything requires it's "quota" to be filled. Sky Sports Golf is another great example, where Sarah Shriek brings nothing but banality to the Presentation, and meanwhile we are denied the excellent Henni Zuel.  

 

(http://i.imgur.com/i8WCiU8.jpg) (https://imgur.com/i8WCiU8)


It was worse in the old days, I used to watch a show on Sky where some old duffer used to yak on about concrete and steam trains.  No doubt to fulfill some quota and to keep the lonely old biddies happy.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 20, 2019, 03:51:25 PM

Got me there, tbf.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 20, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
You think she's been given the job because she's female Tikay? Seems a lot more of it going on in the sports pundit world

Unfortunately, yes, & we will see lots more of this in the future I'm afraid.

And I should add, it's not her fault, she has done nothing wrong.

Sad times when everything requires it's "quota" to be filled. Sky Sports Golf is another great example, where Sarah Shriek brings nothing but banality to the Presentation, and meanwhile we are denied the excellent Henni Zuel.  

 

(http://i.imgur.com/i8WCiU8.jpg) (https://imgur.com/i8WCiU8)


It was worse in the old days, I used to watch a show on Sky where some old duffer used to yak on about concrete and steam trains.  No doubt to fulfill some quota and to keep the lonely old biddies happy.

:D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 20, 2019, 03:57:28 PM
Williams Trump. What a great match.

Will we ever see a better red than the one Williams potted into the left black pocket at 8 all with no path back to baulk?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on March 20, 2019, 06:11:55 PM
You think she's been given the job because she's female Tikay? Seems a lot more of it going on in the sports pundit world

Unfortunately, yes, & we will see lots more of this in the future I'm afraid.

And I should add, it's not her fault, she has done nothing wrong.

Sad times when everything requires it's "quota" to be filled. Sky Sports Golf is another great example, where Sarah Shriek brings nothing but banality to the Presentation, and meanwhile we are denied the excellent Henni Zuel.  

 

(http://i.imgur.com/i8WCiU8.jpg) (https://imgur.com/i8WCiU8)


It was worse in the old days, I used to watch a show on Sky where some old duffer used to yak on about concrete and steam trains.  No doubt to fulfill some quota and to keep the lonely old biddies happy.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/113DYl4rds5Kzm/giphy.gif)

Doobs is deadly from that distance, Tikay.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 21, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
Some lovely little insights from McManus in commentary, especially regarding the psychological aspects of the game.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 21, 2019, 01:27:02 PM
Some lovely little insights from McManus in commentary, especially regarding the psychological aspects of the game.

I really enjoy his commentary, ditto Hendry.

Never thought the day would come when ITV did things better than the BBC, but ITV's snooker coverage is different class to BBC's, with the exception of Mrs Dibby, though Hazel Irvine's snooker work does nothing for me either.   


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 21, 2019, 01:31:17 PM
Did you see that 56 shot safety exchange yesterday? I thought Hendry was going to slash his wrists.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 21, 2019, 01:45:27 PM
Did you see that 56 shot safety exchange yesterday? I thought Hendry was going to slash his wrists.

When red & blue were right over the left hand black bag? I watched it, yes.

Maybe I'm weird, but I really enjoy those sort of situations.

Hendry said something like "I'll not say anything else, I've run out of interesting things to say", & suggested it was all too dull.

There seems to be a fixation these days with everything being faster. And so they introduced Snooker Shootout. Never seen anything worse than that utter shite.   


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 21, 2019, 02:31:06 PM
Did we used to be able to see a players bare back when they bent over to shoot? Does no one wear a singlet these days?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bunnydas8888 on March 21, 2019, 04:04:04 PM
Did we used to be able to see a players bare back when they bent over to shoot? Does no one wear a singlet these days?

I suppose the spectators had a completely different set of sights, sounds & smells for the likes of Big Bill!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 21, 2019, 04:45:47 PM
Did we used to be able to see a players bare back when they bent over to shoot? Does no one wear a singlet these days?

I suppose the spectators had a completely different set of sights, sounds & smells for the likes of Big Bill!



Bill and I were quite close..


(https://s16.directupload.net/images/190321/kkx65zxt.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net)



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 21, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
He got so pissed at my old man's club during an exhibition, he couldn't do the trick shots.

Then he fell off his chair and squashed the magician's pigeons :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 21, 2019, 05:03:25 PM
He got so pissed at my old man's club during an exhibition, he couldn't do the trick shots.

Then he fell off his chair and squashed the magician's pigeons :D


Hahah. Sounds about right.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 21, 2019, 11:07:37 PM
Some frame, that.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 21, 2019, 11:11:13 PM
Some frame, that.

Extraordinary.

Ronnie had to win it as he was 8-9 down, best of 19,

Mardy arse took an early lead, about 39 I think, but black, pink and blue were all tied up on various cushions.

Somehow Ronnie moved all 3 senior colours within 2 shots then cleared the table up to pink for a remarkable win.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 21, 2019, 11:34:20 PM
Get up there, my boy!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 21, 2019, 11:36:37 PM
Get up there, my boy!

You can't make stuff up like that. He is the GOAT of GOATs.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 21, 2019, 11:41:07 PM
Get up there, my boy!

You can't make stuff up like that. He is the GOAT of GOATs.


Some last two frames, for sure.

Have to check Judd's instagram, as I imagine he'll be plotting up at the Wynn next, not playing in China.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 21, 2019, 11:53:26 PM
Watching it on 'tape' so about 30 mins behind.

Wow!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: booder on March 22, 2019, 09:11:16 AM
Watching it on 'tape' so about 30 mins behind.

Wow!

VHS or Betamax ?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 22, 2019, 10:09:02 AM
Watching it on 'tape' so about 30 mins behind.

Wow!

VHS or Betamax ?


Not in to that new-fangled stuff, I'm on Super 8


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 24, 2019, 08:23:55 PM

The final session of the Tour Championship is shaping up to be a cracker.

Best of 25, it's currently 10-10.

Ronnie has his sensible head on, very focussed, and Robertson is possibly playing the best snooker of his career.

Great tv.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 24, 2019, 08:47:45 PM
I think mardy arse Ronnie is losing his cool.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 24, 2019, 08:53:07 PM
I wouldn't like to draw Ronnie in a gurning competition.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 24, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
I wouldn't like to draw Ronnie in a gurning competition.

Ha, was just about to say he is gurning for England tonight.

Love that in snooker, when a miss is called and the cue ball has to be replaced, the referee relies on the players to indicate it's exact position, and the guys never try to gain advantage. If only footballers were as honest.

A good snooker final is the best thing ever in sport, though I'm having to flick like mad as Paul Casey is leading the Valspar golf and I want him to win. Or comeback kid Luke Donald.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on March 24, 2019, 09:01:05 PM
I wouldn't like to draw Ronnie in a gurning competition.

Ha, was just about to say he is gurning for England tonight.

Love that in snooker, when a miss is called and the cue ball has to be replaced, the referee relies on the players to indicate it's exact position, and the guys never try to gain advantage. If only footballers were as honest.

A good snooker final is the best thing ever in sport, though I'm having to flick like mad as Paul Casey is leading the Valspar golf and I want him to win. Or comeback kid Luke Donald.


Why not tape one?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 24, 2019, 09:07:47 PM
I wouldn't like to draw Ronnie in a gurning competition.

Ha, was just about to say he is gurning for England tonight.

Love that in snooker, when a miss is called and the cue ball has to be replaced, the referee relies on the players to indicate it's exact position, and the guys never try to gain advantage. If only footballers were as honest.

A good snooker final is the best thing ever in sport, though I'm having to flick like mad as Paul Casey is leading the Valspar golf and I want him to win. Or comeback kid Luke Donald.


Why not tape one?

I want it all, I want it all (yeah), and I want it now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 24, 2019, 10:00:06 PM
I wouldn't like to draw Ronnie in a gurning competition.

Ha, was just about to say he is gurning for England tonight.

Love that in snooker, when a miss is called and the cue ball has to be replaced, the referee relies on the players to indicate it's exact position, and the guys never try to gain advantage. If only footballers were as honest.

A good snooker final is the best thing ever in sport, though I'm having to flick like mad as Paul Casey is leading the Valspar golf and I want him to win. Or comeback kid Luke Donald.


Why not tape one?

I want it all, I want it all (yeah), and I want it now.

We want Tikay's summer staking thread.

And we want it last month!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on March 24, 2019, 10:00:21 PM
The GOAT GOAT, getting it done!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on March 24, 2019, 10:01:38 PM

What an absolute Boss.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: peejaytwo on April 10, 2019, 08:46:43 AM
Just seen that a couple of guys lost their cues on the journey back from China, Judd one of them. Hope they turn up as there is a big tourney coming up.

Hawkins overpriced at 25/1 for me, would love the Goat to win it but think 17days is too long for him to be in a Zen like state.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 10, 2019, 10:22:46 AM
Just seen that a couple of guys lost their cues on the journey back from China, Judd one of them. Hope they turn up as there is a big tourney coming up.

Hawkins overpriced at 25/1 for me, would love the Goat to win it but think 17days is too long for him to be in a Zen like state.

Can't wait for this.

In fact, it starts today, with the qualifiers making a last ditch attempt to get in.

I follow a bunch of Snooker pundits & players on Twitter, & one named "snookerbacker" posts a whole variety of stuff, some of which is quite decent. 

He had done a full analysis of each qualifying section, quite lengthy & detailed. it's here;


http://www.snookerbacker.com/2019/04/08/world-championship-qualifiers-destination-crucible/


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: youthnkzR on April 10, 2019, 03:16:30 PM
Just seen that a couple of guys lost their cues on the journey back from China, Judd one of them. Hope they turn up as there is a big tourney coming up.

Hawkins overpriced at 25/1 for me, would love the Goat to win it but think 17days is too long for him to be in a Zen like state.

Same happened to Hendry in 03

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2003/sep/02/snooker.cliveeverton


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 20, 2019, 11:19:34 AM
Mark Williams may have been "on the lash for a year" but his cue-action is still a thing of beauty.#Cueactionenvy


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 20, 2019, 11:21:37 AM

Love him to bits, coolest dude in snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 21, 2019, 10:28:29 AM
Sigh.... Another knows nothing about the game asks cringeworthy questions glances coyly at the camera bint presenter.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 21, 2019, 11:37:08 AM
I've taken a bit of 5/2 about the young Chinese kid Luo to see off Murphy, he looks like a grinder and Murphy makes a lot of errors.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 21, 2019, 11:45:32 AM
Sigh.... Another knows nothing about the game asks cringeworthy questions glances coyly at the camera bint presenter.


I mean, fair play to her, you can't knock her for determination.

I blame the beeb.


https://lifehacks.io/seema-jaswal/





Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2019, 12:46:34 PM

The coolest guy in snooker gets a monk on;


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/48003630


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 21, 2019, 05:59:43 PM
Next case..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: DungBeetle on April 21, 2019, 07:19:10 PM
Two players 9-0 done in first session one of them averaging 9 points per frame.  Very poor show!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2019, 07:52:23 PM
Watching Neil Robertson giving his post-match interview, I thought i was seeing things on that advertising wall. How the hell did that happen? Or is there some secret Betfred advertising gimmick that has whooshed me?

I hope they change it, otherwise I shall spend every interview for the next 2 weeks having my eye drawn to it.


(http://i.imgur.com/yTlCsBC.jpg) (https://imgur.com/yTlCsBC)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Tal on April 21, 2019, 08:08:51 PM
With an eagle eye like that, you'll have no trouble selling out your Vegas package.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 21, 2019, 08:56:11 PM
Wilson dropping on that single red dead weight from behind the brown...


Incredible.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2019, 09:01:50 PM
Wilson dropping on that single red dead weight from behind the brown...


Incredible.

Yup.

This frame could last a very long time. Must be 20 or 25 minutes already including the re-rack. Absorbing stuff though, love watching frames like this.

At one point there was only one "open" colour, yellow I think.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 21, 2019, 09:18:30 PM
It's a fabulous frame. It's a long tome since I've enjoyed one so much.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 21, 2019, 09:26:15 PM

That snooker behind the green looked ungetoutable, but Wilson nailed it first time.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 21, 2019, 09:27:10 PM
Step aside angles.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Jamier-Host on April 21, 2019, 09:27:28 PM
So good this. Some insane escapes.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2019, 01:20:15 PM
This Zhao lad is a real talent, and leads Selby 5-1, which is a justified scoreline. Tighty tipped him to win this (7/2)  in his Road to Riches column this week.

Selby is usually a cool customer, and I like him a lot, but he looks to be in bits at the moment.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2019, 02:15:59 PM

Intriguing game this one, Selby pulls it back to 3-5, and they resume this evening at 7pm. Well worth watching.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 22, 2019, 03:02:39 PM
Yep, great stuff. I face to go out for a couple of hours this arvo so I'll miss some of it.

How the fudge did Maguire win BTW?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2019, 05:45:17 PM
Yep, great stuff. I face to go out for a couple of hours this arvo so I'll miss some of it.

How the fudge did Maguire win BTW?

Cheating, for starters, then, crucially, a zillion to 1 chance fluked blue.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 22, 2019, 07:52:06 PM
Yep, great stuff. I face to go out for a couple of hours this arvo so I'll miss some of it.

How the fudge did Maguire win BTW?

Cheating, for starters, then, crucially, a zillion to 1 chance fluked blue.



Cheating?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2019, 10:30:33 AM
What a breath of fresh air this man has been in the commentary box.




(https://i.eurosport.com/2007/08/12/377548-23767305-2560-1440.jpg?w=1050)





Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2019, 10:34:43 AM
Cahill's not bad for an amateur.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2019, 10:38:59 AM
The bags on these tables seem to be absolutely sucking balls in.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 23, 2019, 10:51:48 AM
The bags on these tables seem to be absolutely sucking balls in.

I wonder how much of that is the new cloth or are they actually softer than usual.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2019, 11:03:54 AM
Looks like Ronnie's head's gone.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2019, 11:04:21 AM
Along with his hair.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2019, 12:51:47 PM
Ronnie threw it away IMO. Terrible shot selection in the last couple of frames.

And WTF was all that over acted "I'm falling asleep" bollocks about?

Tosser.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2019, 12:54:26 PM
Davis- "Cahill didn't play like a frozen rabbit in the headlights".


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 23, 2019, 11:17:19 PM
What a terrific day's snooker.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on April 23, 2019, 11:43:13 PM
I've got a TV in the office, but still missed most of it  ;grr;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 24, 2019, 10:07:52 PM
 Ali Carter's clearance to force the respot. Wow!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 25, 2019, 02:22:57 PM
Sean Murphy is not potting many balls but is going through his full repertoire of facial expressions when given a chance.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 25, 2019, 05:32:52 PM
Sean Murphy is not potting many balls but is going through his full repertoire of facial expressions when given a chance.

He seems like the nicest guy in snooker but I wouldn't trust him an inch.





(https://img.resized.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/34-we-look-like-beaker-from-the-muppets-34.jpg)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 25, 2019, 06:29:28 PM
Sean Murphy is not potting many balls but is going through his full repertoire of facial expressions when given a chance.

He seems like the nicest guy in snooker but I wouldn't trust him an inch.





(https://img.resized.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/34-we-look-like-beaker-from-the-muppets-34.jpg)

He just seems a bit ungenuine to me - I can imagine him practicing all of those facial expressions in the mirror.

Worst of all is I've done my money on him a couple of times and he's lost because of carelessness. ;grr;


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 25, 2019, 06:41:37 PM
I'm warming to Colin Murray. He's a funny guy and he knows what he's talking about.

Humble pie anyone?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on April 25, 2019, 07:33:13 PM
I'm warming to Colin Murray. He's a funny guy and he knows what he's talking about.

Humble pie anyone?

Keep him.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Newportlad on April 25, 2019, 11:51:07 PM
I'm warming to Colin Murray. He's a funny guy and he knows what he's talking about.

Humble pie anyone?

Good man is Colin

Played in a cash game at the Vic with him.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: TightEnd on April 26, 2019, 02:33:59 PM
Why is Murphy sat there in the studio in the middle of his match?

He was commentating the other night after the first session too.

Very odd.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 26, 2019, 07:51:14 PM
I could be responsible for the biggest bok since Tony Bolton came with me to Marylebone St. Court one morning in 1983 to provide a little morale support.(don't ask!)

Anyhow no sooner have I had a decent even-money bet on Willo to win his second-round match against Dave Giblet than I see it's now 7/4 and Willo's in hossie with chest-pains.

I hope Willo makes a speedy recovery and gets prescribed a few beta-blockers to give us both some morale support tomorrow.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on April 26, 2019, 07:53:12 PM
FFS, put that much on you've almost killed him!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 27, 2019, 11:19:34 AM
Beta-blockers just kicking in nicely now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Jamier-Host on April 27, 2019, 03:04:19 PM
Eurosport commentator claimed Higgins is 2nd greatest player ever, behind Ronnie. Hendry & Davis at least you'd have to put above him right? Can see him in the pack with Higgins/White etc


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: DropTheHammer on April 27, 2019, 03:09:18 PM
Thanks to whoever put Bradford up for relegation from L1, great shout at 10-1.

EDIT-should have been posted in TFT, if a mod could move thanks.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on April 27, 2019, 06:04:48 PM
Maguire must have lumped Cahill :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 27, 2019, 07:38:57 PM
"It goes without saying" quips Mike Hallett who always seems to say it anyway, sometimes twice.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on April 27, 2019, 07:51:02 PM
"It goes without saying" quips Mike Hallett who always seems to say it anyway, sometimes twice.

Thankfully I'm always watching in the office while I work, so have it muted :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 27, 2019, 08:14:02 PM
I'm impressed with Gilbert. He doesn't shy away from much does he?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on April 27, 2019, 09:14:20 PM

As Williams pulls one back to go 9-12 down, camera focuses on Mark Williams son in the audience, who is listening to the commentary on one of those earpieces.

"Your Dad is not dead yet".

That's followed by an awkward silence then a lengthy extraction from the hole he had dug.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: booder on April 28, 2019, 12:00:58 AM

As Williams pulls one back to go 9-12 down, camera focuses on Mark Williams son in the audience, who is listening to the commentary on one of those earpieces.

"Your Dad is not dead yet".

That's followed by an awkward silence then a lengthy extraction from the hole he had dug.
rotflmfao


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 29, 2019, 07:58:47 PM
I'm now convinced that these corner-pockets are softer than shite after the plants that Ding is potting - even going for them would normally be considered madness.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 29, 2019, 08:25:03 PM
I'm now convinced that these corner-pockets are softer than shite after the plants that Ding is potting - even going for them would normally be considered madness.


Yes, I said that early doors. Loads of balls going in off the near jaw.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 29, 2019, 09:07:51 PM
Is it just me that reckons Trump's cue is not lining up straight and he's adjusting slightly on every shot?

That would explain his lack of long-potting success and if he was playing anyone but Maguire in the quarters I'd be opposing him.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 29, 2019, 09:54:36 PM
Do you think people's heads get bigger as they get older? Bingham's head looks huge now and my head seems much bigger than was. It's like a 50 shilling pot now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: engy on April 30, 2019, 11:25:58 AM
Ha Ha Tom my Dad said to me its like a 10 bob cabbage


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on April 30, 2019, 11:35:45 AM
Do you think people's heads get bigger as they get older? Bingham's head looks huge now and my head seems much bigger than was. It's like a 50 shilling pot now.

Interesting point Tom as his teekness frequently reminded us when he had a diary, we do shrink as we age, perhaps the head less so than the body making it seem larger.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on April 30, 2019, 03:42:34 PM
Do you think people's heads get bigger as they get older? Bingham's head looks huge now and my head seems much bigger than was. It's like a 50 shilling pot now.

Interesting point Tom as his teekness frequently reminded us when he had a diary, we do shrink as we age, perhaps the head less so than the body making it seem larger.

I’m sure our ears keep growing though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on April 30, 2019, 04:08:21 PM
Do you think people's heads get bigger as they get older? Bingham's head looks huge now and my head seems much bigger than was. It's like a 50 shilling pot now.

Interesting point Tom as his teekness frequently reminded us when he had a diary, we do shrink as we age, perhaps the head less so than the body making it seem larger.

I’m sure our ears keep growing though.


Yes. It's a fact that our ears do continue to grow.

From the rear, tikay looks like a Massey Ferguson tractor.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 02, 2019, 07:30:06 PM
He's leaving it a bit late....


http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=57638.msg1560512#msg1560512


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 03, 2019, 05:03:10 PM
Gary Wilson has Vulcan ears


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 03, 2019, 05:14:46 PM
Gary Wilson has Vulcan ears

My daughter Zelly already christened him Spock.

BTW- last week she suddenly exclaimed, "OMG! we've missed Ralph's birthday"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 03, 2019, 06:33:25 PM
Gary Wilson has Vulcan ears

My daughter Zelly already christened him Spock.

BTW- last week she suddenly exclaimed, "OMG! we've missed Ralph's birthday"

I keep trying to miss them too.

<3 Daughter Zelly


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 03, 2019, 07:31:30 PM
I wonder what that bloke that got chucked out at the start of tonight's Higgins/Gilbert session said?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 03, 2019, 07:41:35 PM
Never seen Higgins look more uncomfortable or less determined.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 03, 2019, 07:43:05 PM
Never seen Higgins look more uncomfortable or less determined.

Prob laid himself.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 03, 2019, 07:48:01 PM
Never seen Higgins look more uncomfortable or less determined.

Prob laid himself.

 :redcard:


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on May 03, 2019, 08:05:52 PM
I wonder what that bloke that got chucked out at the start of tonight's Higgins/Gilbert session said?

Abused the ref apparently.

The bloke Tweeted about it, & someone Next Door posted it on the Snooker Thread we've got going there;



Roger Rowsby

 
@R_Regor
Follow Follow @R_Regor
More
Buy a ticket to semi final - done
Nice meal before evening session - done
Watch the break - done
Shout abuse at ref - done
Go home .... 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 03, 2019, 08:11:21 PM
Blimey! You couldn't begrudge him that frame.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 03, 2019, 08:12:54 PM
Surely that can't be the right shot though?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on May 03, 2019, 08:53:03 PM





Ref Marcel "David Gilbert to break (breaks) Please make sure the mobiles are switched off please"
Voice "Fuck off"
Ref "Pardon! OK, who was that? You're going straight out!"
(later) Gilbert "About mobiles?"
Ref "No, not about mobiles. Someone shouted at me. It's what he said"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 03, 2019, 09:21:36 PM
I'll have a pint/line of whatever Higgins had during the break please..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 06, 2019, 04:37:49 PM
Red #13 of Judd's 147 attempt. Wow! Have you ever seen a shot like it?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2019, 05:28:01 PM
Red #13 of Judd's 147 attempt. Wow! Have you ever seen a shot like it?

I've been working, so obv missed it :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2019, 07:38:00 PM
Some final, and Trump finally delivers on what he has promised for a decade.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on May 06, 2019, 09:13:09 PM
https://twitter.com/tonypaley/status/1125317246396579840

lolorals will be fuming as Trump gets up with a year to spare for this punter.  Hope he had a decent lump on.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2019, 10:59:05 PM
https://twitter.com/tonypaley/status/1125317246396579840

lolorals will be fuming as Trump gets up with a year to spare for this punter.  Hope he had a decent lump on.

Haha, incred!

Remember him winning a lot of the junior stuff, back when I started playing again after I left the mob.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2019, 08:40:32 AM




Well done to racing journalist Neil Morrice, 62, who has won £10,000 after placing a £10 bet on Judd Trump
to win the World Snooker Championship - at odds of 1,000/1 with Coral when Trump was eight



https://twitter.com/HonestFrank/status/1125493033057779712


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on May 07, 2019, 10:13:33 AM




Well done to racing journalist Neil Morrice, 62, who has won £10,000 after placing a £10 bet on Judd Trump
to win the World Snooker Championship - at odds of 1,000/1 with Coral when Trump was eight



https://twitter.com/HonestFrank/status/1125493033057779712

By an odd coincidence I sat next to Neil Morrice on the flight out to Vegas when Tom and I went ~10 years ago.

We got chatting after I asked for a read of his Racing Post - he was travelling over to cover The Breeders Cup at Santa Anita - and he put up Goldikova as his best bet.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2019, 10:25:43 AM




Well done to racing journalist Neil Morrice, 62, who has won £10,000 after placing a £10 bet on Judd Trump
to win the World Snooker Championship - at odds of 1,000/1 with Coral when Trump was eight



https://twitter.com/HonestFrank/status/1125493033057779712

By an odd coincidence I sat next to Neil Morrice on the flight out to Vegas when Tom and I went ~10 years ago.

We got chatting after I asked for a read of his Racing Post - he was travelling over to cover The Breeders Cup at Santa Anita - and he put up Goldikova as his best bet.

Ha, what a small world it is.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on May 07, 2019, 10:49:36 AM




Well done to racing journalist Neil Morrice, 62, who has won £10,000 after placing a £10 bet on Judd Trump
to win the World Snooker Championship - at odds of 1,000/1 with Coral when Trump was eight



https://twitter.com/HonestFrank/status/1125493033057779712

By an odd coincidence I sat next to Neil Morrice on the flight out to Vegas when Tom and I went ~10 years ago.

We got chatting after I asked for a read of his Racing Post - he was travelling over to cover The Breeders Cup at Santa Anita - and he put up Goldikova as his best bet.



Bloody hell! It's never 10 years ago is it Ralph?

That tempus has definitely fugited.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on August 18, 2019, 10:49:08 AM
A few minutes ago whilst channel-hopping I happened to find live coverage of the World Seniors Championship (on "FreeNation", Sky Channel 422) , & there is a chap playing by the name of Daniel Blunn.

Amazing sight, the chap appears to have a pretty bad case of cerebal palsy. Right hand all scrunched up, legs won't straighten, wears a built up boot as one leg seems much shorter than the other, & his feet are all over the shop.  

Amazing sight.

A little googling tells us he is the World Disability Billiards & Snooker Champion. Great stuff mate.


(http://i.imgur.com/ALSy2pS.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ALSy2pS)




 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on August 18, 2019, 10:50:41 AM

Here he is;


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pwq0iA0eAo


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on August 18, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
What an absolute hero.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Knottikay on August 19, 2019, 03:15:27 PM
Nice to see Jimmy 'not so much a whirlwind now' white finally get a Crucible Title....

Jimmy White: Snooker legend triumphs at the Crucible (World Seniors Event)  - at last


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: bobby1 on August 19, 2019, 03:18:39 PM
Nice to see Jimmy 'not so much a whirlwind now' white finally get a Crucible Title....

Jimmy White: Snooker legend triumphs at the Crucible (World Seniors Event)  - at last

That was great to see wasn't it, 5-3 in the final flattered Morgan too. Deffo think Seniors snooker would get decent viewing figures on Eurosport if they picked it up.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on August 19, 2019, 03:59:31 PM
Cheers for posting those, great stuff.

Haven't played for about 10 years, but still got my cue ;D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on August 19, 2019, 04:00:11 PM
Nice to see Jimmy 'not so much a whirlwind now' white finally get a Crucible Title....

Jimmy White: Snooker legend triumphs at the Crucible (World Seniors Event)  - at last

That was great to see wasn't it, 5-3 in the final flattered Morgan too. Deffo think Seniors snooker would get decent viewing figures on Eurosport if they picked it up.

I'd definitely watch some of that. Take me back to my childhood :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: vegaslover on August 19, 2019, 08:02:56 PM
Nice to see Jimmy 'not so much a whirlwind now' white finally get a Crucible Title....

Jimmy White: Snooker legend triumphs at the Crucible (World Seniors Event)  - at last

That was great to see wasn't it, 5-3 in the final flattered Morgan too. Deffo think Seniors snooker would get decent viewing figures on Eurosport if they picked it up.

I'd definitely watch some of that. Take me back to my childhood :D

Was flicking through the channels and caught some of the Hendry Drago game.
John Virgo MC, looking frail. Drago has lost a lot of weight following his health scare.
Like watching snooker in the 80s, bit more safety, few more misses and mistakes


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on August 19, 2019, 08:40:26 PM
Nice to see Jimmy 'not so much a whirlwind now' white finally get a Crucible Title....

Jimmy White: Snooker legend triumphs at the Crucible (World Seniors Event)  - at last

That was great to see wasn't it, 5-3 in the final flattered Morgan too. Deffo think Seniors snooker would get decent viewing figures on Eurosport if they picked it up.

I'd definitely watch some of that. Take me back to my childhood :D

Was flicking through the channels and caught some of the Hendry Drago game.
John Virgo MC, looking frail. Drago has lost a lot of weight following his health scare.
Like watching snooker in the 80s, bit more safety, few more misses and mistakes

What channels is it on? Or was it just a one off for the worlds?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on August 19, 2019, 08:49:14 PM
Nice to see Jimmy 'not so much a whirlwind now' white finally get a Crucible Title....

Jimmy White: Snooker legend triumphs at the Crucible (World Seniors Event)  - at last

That was great to see wasn't it, 5-3 in the final flattered Morgan too. Deffo think Seniors snooker would get decent viewing figures on Eurosport if they picked it up.

I'd definitely watch some of that. Take me back to my childhood :D

Was flicking through the channels and caught some of the Hendry Drago game.
John Virgo MC, looking frail. Drago has lost a lot of weight following his health scare.
Like watching snooker in the 80s, bit more safety, few more misses and mistakes

What channels is it on? Or was it just a one off for the worlds?

It was on Sky Channel 422, known variously as "FreeSports" & "FreeNation".

Best regards,

Mr Grumpy


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 15, 2019, 10:46:08 AM

Just reading between the lines, like, but my spidey senses tell me Ronnie is not happy.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/50053875


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: superwomble on October 15, 2019, 11:50:36 AM

Just reading between the lines, like, but my spidey senses tell me Ronnie is not happy.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/50053875

He sounds like those poker players who say they have to play at higher stakes because low stakes players are bad players!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on October 15, 2019, 12:45:21 PM
I see Ronnie has copied my hairstyle.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on October 15, 2019, 01:07:10 PM
Joe Johnson.

"Ooh, it's a tantoozler is that one."


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: vegaslover on October 15, 2019, 04:02:16 PM
Ronnie being a prick as usual, if he doesn't like the format/venue he doesn't have to attend. Not like he goes to many tournaments anyway.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on October 15, 2019, 04:37:20 PM
What has he done now?

:D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on October 15, 2019, 04:55:39 PM
Just moaning about the Engliish open facilities in a leisure centre.   FWIW i think he has a point because Hearn doesn't treat the top 16 in darts in this manner.   At the UK open (FA cup of darts) the top 16 don't play until the final 32 and the guessers and qualifiers have to battle it out on the floor to get through to the last 32 before the big boys enter.   He does seem to run darts and snooker iin a different manner.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on October 15, 2019, 04:59:55 PM
Just moaning about the Engliish open facilities in a leisure centre.   FWIW i think he has a point because Hearn doesn't treat the top 16 in darts in this manner.   At the UK open (FA cup of darts) the top 16 don't play until the final 32 and the guessers and qualifiers have to battle it out on the floor to get through to the last 32 before the big boys enter.   He does seem to run darts and snooker iin a different manner.


Fair enough but he doesn't need to slag his opponent off.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on October 15, 2019, 05:01:11 PM
"When you're playing people who are just happy to be there, it's their big occasion and they just go out and smash the balls all over the place, there's no point trying to play the right shot.

"Every time you do, they just play the wrong shot. Whatever game plan you've got, they just totally throw it out of the window with one shot.

"It's like following a driver who doesn't really know what they're doing. You're just trying to second-guess it and you end up having a crash yourself."


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on October 15, 2019, 05:04:01 PM
Just moaning about the Engliish open facilities in a leisure centre.   FWIW i think he has a point because Hearn doesn't treat the top 16 in darts in this manner.   At the UK open (FA cup of darts) the top 16 don't play until the final 32 and the guessers and qualifiers have to battle it out on the floor to get through to the last 32 before the big boys enter.   He does seem to run darts and snooker iin a different manner.


Fair enough but he doesn't need to slag his opponent off.

I totally agree with you on that Tom his comments to a much less talented but hard working pro is very disrespectful and totally out of order.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on October 15, 2019, 05:09:51 PM
"When you're playing people who are just happy to be there, it's their big occasion and they just go out and smash the balls all over the place, there's no point trying to play the right shot.

"Every time you do, they just play the wrong shot. Whatever game plan you've got, they just totally throw it out of the window with one shot.

"It's like following a driver who doesn't really know what they're doing. You're just trying to second-guess it and you end up having a crash yourself."

He's always giving it to Hearn, and often has a point.

No need for that at all, though.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on October 16, 2019, 11:30:43 AM
John Virgo vs Alex Higgins at his best.

The last few balls are beyond belief

https://www.facebook.com/snooker.corner/videos/1239142612935002?sfns=mo


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 16, 2019, 11:50:10 AM
John Virgo vs Alex Higgins at his best.

The last few balls are beyond belief

https://www.facebook.com/snooker.corner/videos/1239142612935002?sfns=mo

Amazing, simply amazing.

Whilst still on the yellow or green, Higgins says he will end up potting the black (which is on it's spot) "one handed into the middle".

He then makes a shot in a million, a real worldie, to pot pink from an impossible position.....and finishes up by potting black off it's spot into the middle one-handed.

Barely believable.

Loved watching Alex. I was always told to STAY DOWN ON THE SHOT. Guessing nobody ever told Alex that.

So sad how it all ended for Alex.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on October 16, 2019, 12:57:31 PM
I couldn't get that to load probably because I don't have facebook.

I watched Higgins play a lot when I lived in Toronto and he came over a few times in the 1970's to play what was originally the CNE tournament. All the top pros came over to play it. There was Alex, Reardon, Virgo, Spencer, Pullman, Griffiths, Taylor et al, but only a few of them came downtown to play for money at Times Square Billiards on Yonge St. - Alex Higgins and a young Willie Thorne who had just turned pro were two.

I played Willie Thorne a couple of frames for fifty bucks - he gave me 40 start as recommended by Cliff Thorburn - but after making a big break in the first frame and winning it easily and having a decent lead in the second with just the colours left he left me a shot on the yellow which I potted and then cleared up to win on the black. He decided to quit fearing Cliff had put him in a trap but in fact the opposite was true as 40 points was not nearly enough for me to have the best of it. But I digress..

Times Square Billiards was the "action room" in Toronto and one of the biggest gamblers was Little Charlie who was a decent player himself - he used to spot me 10-12 points playing with six reds which was the usual format for gambling - and it was inevitable that Alex and Little Charlie would end up playing at some stage. Well one night they did and the format was with just three reds and they played for either fifty or a hundred bucks per game. I cant remember exactly what the start was but probably c10 points which is the equivalent of 30 with a full rack.

There were around 20/30 regulars sitting on the adjacent tables watching them play into the small hours and Alex was simply mesmerizing. The three-reds format is an interesting one because after the break one red is invariably "frozen" directly behind the pink so clearing up is far from straightforward and the games often develop into tactical battles after the two loose reds have been potted.

The way Alex managed to disturb that frozen red into a pottable position time after time by playing precision cannons and just hitting the pink half-ball at the perfect pace was honestly spellbinding and he managed to clear up time and time again. Little Charlie barely got a look in and he too became one of the entranced spectators until he ran out of cash.

I remember that session as though it were yesterday and can still see Alex in my mind's eye pulling his handkerchief out of his pocket and cleaning the white ball before he broke, and his trademark trigger-finger pointing to the ground.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on October 16, 2019, 01:12:52 PM

^^^^

That's a cracking piece of story-telling, thank you.

By way of return, here's the You Tube version of that Facebook video.

It's about 12 minutes long, but if you are pressed for time, fast forward to the colours. I think you'll enjoy it.



YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4uR8ljtUK0


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on October 16, 2019, 11:18:01 PM
I enjoyed the Western,we choppeda comp there once tikay the Tuesday night £100er. Attracted some characters those Tuesdaynights did

I also had a fun seat draw in a Walsall festival comp once.

Seat 1 Mickey Wernick
Seat 2 Lucy Rokach
Seat 3 me
Seat 4 Matthew Stevens
Seat 5 Mark J Williams

I was staying in the Village and the next morning and,neither of us having made day 2,i stumbled into the bar area around 10am to find Mark J there surround by a coterie of advisors, hangers on and he was divvying up bundles of cash as i recall,like feeding the 5000.

this would have been around 2009 so only a few years after his peak

Yes, I recall you & I chopping that comp up at The Western. Pretty sure on one of the dealers was Tony Phillips. Wonder what happened to him?

I won another Comp there one night when the last 3 were Richard Gryko, Mickey Cook & me.

I fell out a bit with Richard Gryko that night - can't quite remember why - but later we became good muckers & rubbed along well for many years. He married a few years ago & lives somewhere dreadful now - Norfolk, Suffolk, somewhere out there.  

Mickey Cook was known as "The Clock", allegedly as he was a lookout man on robberies. (He was there to "clock" people). Or so the story goes. I'm sure it's completely untrue, & Mickey is a fine, upstanding pillar of society, obv. Last saw him in Vegas a few years ago. He's getting on a bit now, hope he's OK.


Tony Philips shacked up with Fran what's-her-name, aka Little Miss C. They had a baby together. Freddie, I think they called him. He must be 7 or 8 years old by now.

The last time I saw Tony he was card room manager at the Alea in Nottingham.





Get away? Well done him. I do recall he was Fran's partner, & they had a baby.

Which begs the question, is Rob Creed still around?



He's been card-room manager at The Alea for a few years now by an odd coincidence.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 06, 2019, 07:14:08 PM
On ITV4 right now Trump is playing Un-Nooh.

Mr Un is a really fun player to watch. Fast, attacking and exciting, but somewhat careless.

Am hoping he concentrates enough to give Trump a black eye.

Edit. In with a chance to win the first frame he makes a careless mistake and the Juddster clears up.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2019, 08:07:11 PM
On ITV4 right now Trump is playing Un-Nooh.

Mr Un is a really fun player to watch. Fast, attacking and exciting, but somewhat careless.

Am hoping he concentrates enough to give Trump a black eye.

Edit. In with a chance to win the first frame he makes a careless mistake and the Juddster clears up.

1.01 landed :D


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 06, 2019, 08:10:26 PM
On ITV4 right now Trump is playing Un-Nooh.

Mr Un is a really fun player to watch. Fast, attacking and exciting, but somewhat careless.

Am hoping he concentrates enough to give Trump a black eye.

Edit. In with a chance to win the first frame he makes a careless mistake and the Juddster clears up.

1.01 landed :D

Last I saw before I turned over for the football was Judd was heading for 4-0...


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2019, 08:38:40 PM
On ITV4 right now Trump is playing Un-Nooh.

Mr Un is a really fun player to watch. Fast, attacking and exciting, but somewhat careless.

Am hoping he concentrates enough to give Trump a black eye.

Edit. In with a chance to win the first frame he makes a careless mistake and the Juddster clears up.

1.01 landed :D

Last I saw before I turned over for the football was Judd was heading for 4-0...

Incred.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 07, 2019, 12:51:43 PM
As I posted yesterday in the wrong thread, it's Ronnie vs Jimmy today, well, now actually.  ;popcorn;

PS- Ronnie is a tosser.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 07, 2019, 01:20:40 PM
As I posted yesterday in the wrong thread, it's Ronnie vs Jimmy today, well, now actually.  ;popcorn;

PS- Ronnie is a tosser.

I was struggling to work out what that post was doing in the politics thread.

Jimmy looked in good nick in frame 1. Hopefully that's the last frame he'll win.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 07, 2019, 01:24:29 PM

Jimmy seems to be wearing his Grandad's trousers and waistcoat.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 07, 2019, 01:34:14 PM

Jimmy seems to be wearing his Grandad's trousers and waistcoat.

^^      ^^          ^^

The voice of experience.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 07, 2019, 01:56:53 PM
The shot to angle Jimmy. Wow!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 07, 2019, 01:59:48 PM
Huge frame.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 07, 2019, 02:01:23 PM
The shot to angle Jimmy. Wow!

He made it look so easy. Very rare to see such a shot played. Magnifique.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 07, 2019, 02:44:08 PM
Nooooooooo!

How can he get a kick in that spot?



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 07, 2019, 09:10:36 PM

Ronnie's pot and position on the final pink, admittedly in a dead frame, was beyond extraordinary.

That table is lightning fast.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 09, 2019, 07:24:10 PM
I could have been a sports photographer.





(https://s19.directupload.net/images/191109/xgabxzdu.jpg) (https://www.directupload.net)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 10, 2019, 10:16:46 PM

ITV4 now for the closing stages of the Trump - Robertson final. Been excellent so far.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 10, 2019, 10:40:02 PM
What a fabulous performance from Robertson to go nine all.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 10, 2019, 10:44:06 PM
And what a great commentator Hendry has made.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 10, 2019, 10:46:22 PM
And what a great commentator Hendry has made.

Was about to post exactly that. Can't ever recall a better or more incisive poker commentator. Nice to hear Clive Everton on commentary too.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 10, 2019, 10:51:35 PM

Robertson has not played this well in years, he's right back to his best.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 10, 2019, 10:53:05 PM
Scintillating performances from both players.

Trump must be stunned.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 10, 2019, 11:01:22 PM
Scintillating performances from both players.

Trump must be stunned.

Absolutely.

It got a bit emosh when Neil's lad came on. I never welled up though.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 10, 2019, 11:06:18 PM

Emily Frazer has done well for herself, CEO of Matchroom Multi Sports. I saw Ian recently and he was chuffed to bits for her.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2019, 07:25:18 PM
The 'snooker cue' part of the four nations logo on the carpet gets on my wick.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 17, 2019, 08:01:38 PM
The 'snooker cue' part of the four nations logo on the carpet gets on my wick.

I call your carpet and raise you Andy Goldstein.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 17, 2019, 08:40:12 PM
The 'snooker cue' part of the four nations logo on the carpet gets on my wick.

I call your carpet and raise you Andy Goldstein.



Fold.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: peejaytwo on November 19, 2019, 01:36:37 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Eurosport_UK/status/1196417114694987777


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 20, 2019, 10:12:24 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Eurosport_UK/status/1196417114694987777

That is hilarious.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Pokerpops on November 20, 2019, 11:22:34 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Eurosport_UK/status/1196417114694987777

That is hilarious.

In the mid-eighties I played at the same club in Nuneaton as Mick Price. He used to give me six blacks and then let me field for him.

Norman Dagley used the place as his practice centre and we would often see him racking up breaks against Clive Everton.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 20, 2019, 11:33:36 AM

https://twitter.com/SteveSnooker/status/1197102162746183681


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 20, 2019, 01:54:32 PM

https://twitter.com/SteveSnooker/status/1197102162746183681

Wrong thread I know but whatever happened to madasahatstand?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on November 20, 2019, 02:20:29 PM

https://twitter.com/SteveSnooker/status/1197102162746183681

Wrong thread I know but whatever happened to madasahatstand?

Ha, I can see what drove that thought process.

No idea, she last posted 10 years & 3 months ago.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 30, 2019, 01:11:18 PM
I see Eurosport have Reanne Evans punditing now.

She's 12 times women's world champion.

Are men allowed to enter?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2019, 02:52:36 PM
I see Eurosport have Reanne Evans punditing now.

She's 12 times women's world champion.

Are men allowed to enter?

If that is the young lady I saw take Murphy to a final frame decider a few weeks ago she has a cue-action as good as any of the men out there.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 30, 2019, 03:09:05 PM
I see Eurosport have Reanne Evans punditing now.

She's 12 times women's world champion.

Are men allowed to enter?

If that is the young lady I saw take Murphy to a final frame decider a few weeks ago she has a cue-action as good as any of the men out there.


Is she allowed to play in the men's world championships?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 30, 2019, 03:20:02 PM
If she qualifies, I think.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on November 30, 2019, 03:31:30 PM
Are the men allowed to play in the womens?

You can see where I'm going here....


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Marky147 on November 30, 2019, 03:46:36 PM
I knew, but it's not something that bothers me. It is what it is.

I imagine the disabled players could play if they qualified, too :)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2019, 03:52:20 PM
Are the men allowed to play in the womens?

You can see where I'm going here....

The World Championships is open to all.

The Womens' Championship is open to women.

I'm sure you could have a trans-op and be eligible if you're really keen..


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: buzzharvey22 on December 01, 2019, 10:32:24 PM
I see Eurosport have Reanne Evans punditing now.

She's 12 times women's world champion.

Are men allowed to enter?

Think Mark Allen did a few years ago.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: youthnkzR on December 03, 2019, 01:20:38 PM
Nigel Bond  ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/50636280


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Longines on December 03, 2019, 02:30:25 PM
Nigel Bond 

My one and only experience of live snooker was the 1990 Grand Prix in Reading.

Nigel Bond vs Eddie Charlton. After 20 minutes I was singing the MASH theme song in my head.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2019, 03:07:50 PM
Nigel Bond 

My one and only experience of live snooker was the 1990 Grand Prix in Reading.

Nigel Bond vs Eddie Charlton. After 20 minutes I was singing the MASH theme song in my head.


Haha.

I love the tactical game.

As a side note, my bro thought the lyrics to the Mash song were "Suicide is dangerous"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2019, 03:40:30 PM
Virgo. "When you're striking down on the ball you have to hit it dead centre otherwise you put unintentional side on".

What if you're not striking down, doesn't the unintentional side rule apply then?

What if you hit it off centre but you are intending to put side on?






Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 03, 2019, 03:42:30 PM
I'm so glad I'm perfect.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 06, 2019, 07:51:57 PM
Shocking standard of snooker in some of these latter-stage UK Champs matches.

Might have to get Tom to retip my cue if this trend continues.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 06, 2019, 08:24:29 PM
Shocking standard of snooker in some of these latter-stage UK Champs matches.

Might have to get Tom to retip my cue if this trend continues.


I love the scrappy stuff though Ralph, so much drama.

What's happened to Mathew Stephens BTW? He looks  like he's been through a time warp and come out the wrong end.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 06, 2019, 09:47:34 PM
Shocking standard of snooker in some of these latter-stage UK Champs matches.

Might have to get Tom to retip my cue if this trend continues.


I love the scrappy stuff though Ralph, so much drama.

What's happened to Mathew Stephens BTW? He looks  like he's been through a time warp and come out the wrong end.

He does seem to have suddenly aged about twenty years .


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 06, 2019, 10:54:23 PM
Bond plays so many inch perfect safety shots.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 06, 2019, 11:05:31 PM
Has anyone else noticed Yan Bingtau's cue?

It's very dark yellowish colour suggests to me that it's quite old and it makes a lovely sound too.

I want it even though I only play once every few years.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 06, 2019, 11:47:27 PM
We must be due another session soon Ralph.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2019, 12:50:19 AM
We must be due another session soon Ralph.

I'm game.

New tip applied and hopefully will be straightish in the morning.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 07, 2019, 01:28:39 AM
We must be due another session soon Ralph.

I'm game.

New tip applied and hopefully will be straightish in the morning.

I'm struggling with man flu at the moment Ralph but if I survive I'm in.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 08, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
I've given my new tip it's daily chalking and gently scraped away most of the traces of dried glue.

Just hope this tip is a decent one as it must be 15+ years old.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 14, 2019, 07:52:01 PM
I like Lisowski here - his stroke looks ramrod straight so if he can hold his 'Arris for me and my 6/4 all will be well chez Karabiner.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 14, 2019, 07:56:32 PM
I like Lisowski here - his stroke looks ramrod straight so if he can hold his 'Arris for me and my 6/4 all will be well chez Karabiner.


See, I would have said at chez Karabiner.

Learning all the time.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 14, 2019, 08:08:07 PM
I like Lisowski here - his stroke looks ramrod straight so if he can hold his 'Arris for me and my 6/4 all will be well chez Karabiner.


See, I would have said at chez Karabiner.

Learning all the time.

Such a flatterer you smooth-talking old devil although I should have said/typed 'old 'is 'Arris in retrospect.

How's your recovery from the deadly outbreak of man-flu going?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 14, 2019, 08:16:16 PM
I like Lisowski here - his stroke looks ramrod straight so if he can hold his 'Arris for me and my 6/4 all will be well chez Karabiner.


See, I would have said at chez Karabiner.

Learning all the time.

Such a flatterer you smooth-talking old devil although I should have said/typed 'old 'is 'Arris in retrospect.

How's your recovery from the deadly outbreak of man-flu going?


I can't Shake it Ralph. I feel as rough as hessian drawers.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 14, 2019, 08:19:00 PM
That stupid pattern on the carpet irritates the crap out of me.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 14, 2019, 08:30:08 PM
This is a high-quality match - both players seem to be on peak form, unfortunately for me and my bet but not for the spectacle.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 14, 2019, 08:34:38 PM
This is a high-quality match - both players seem to be on peak form, unfortunately for me and my bet but not for the spectacle.


Lisowski so unlucky during that 40 break but a quality clearance from Allen.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 14, 2019, 08:37:56 PM
I like Lisowski here - his stroke looks ramrod straight so if he can hold his 'Arris for me and my 6/4 all will be well chez Karabiner.


See, I would have said at chez Karabiner.

Learning all the time.

Such a flatterer you smooth-talking old devil although I should have said/typed 'old 'is 'Arris in retrospect.

How's your recovery from the deadly outbreak of man-flu going?


I can't Shake it Ralph. I feel as rough as hessian drawers.

I had a terrible cough last month - I even went to see the quack about it but was told it's just a virus - it lasted a good three weeks.

Maybe I had the version for those who had had the flu-jab.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 14, 2019, 08:48:37 PM
I like your 6/4 now Ralph.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 14, 2019, 10:06:25 PM
I saved my stake so freerolling now.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on December 15, 2019, 08:48:51 PM
I bet Tikay is loving this frame.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 15, 2019, 08:55:17 PM
I bet Tikay is loving this frame.

Ha, correct.



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 15, 2019, 08:57:01 PM

Was a little surprised that the ref gave them an ultimatum of a re-rack within "a few shots" rather than three. Not sure I've ever known that happen previously.

Worked though, as it forced the action.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on December 15, 2019, 08:58:48 PM

Not sure any player has improved as much as Lisowski has in the last year or so. Lovely potter, good tempremement and a beautiful cue action.

Must be worth a punt if the price is right in the Worlds.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on December 15, 2019, 09:01:39 PM
Selby looks a bit mardy.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 13, 2020, 05:22:35 PM

Masters Snooker at the Ally Pally has started, & Steve David called this "the most amazing shot in the history of snooker".

That's a bit strong, but it's a pretty amazing & very unusual double fluke. (Double fluke, not to be confused with fluke double). 



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/snooker/51098509



Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 15, 2020, 07:02:14 PM
Lisowski was very disappointing - his B-game will never be good enough with that standard of safety-play at the top level.

I chalked my new tip again last night Tom so if you're up for a game next week let me know.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 15, 2020, 07:16:50 PM
Well I'm definitely feeling better now Ralph so I will check my diary and see if I have a spare afternoon.

BTW- That bimbo who was presenting this afternoon's match does my head in.

"Do you think he'll be trying to do a cue action today Steve?"


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 15, 2020, 07:53:05 PM
Well I'm definitely feeling better now Ralph so I will check my diary and see if I have a spare afternoon.

BTW- That bimbo who was presenting this afternoon's match does my head in.

"Do you think he'll be trying to do a cue action today Steve?"

Unfortunately I missed her - just caught the post-interval* games as I was busy golfing, it was a lovely afternoon out of the icy wind.


*I love the word "interval" as it was my first and only ever triple-triple-bingo at scrabble - I wonder if it's rarer than a hole-in-one at golf.

Calling Tal!


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 16, 2020, 09:51:18 PM

I am struggling to recall seeing as many in-offs in a single frame as there have been in Frame 5 of this Carter-Higgins affair, & there are still 9 reds on the table.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on January 16, 2020, 09:55:23 PM
Is this a 2 day game?  Might not be done before 2am at this rate. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 17, 2020, 08:47:58 AM
I thought the Higgins Cater match was great viewing, but then I think there's much more drama in a scrappy match than there is in a one visit per frame match.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 17, 2020, 08:49:53 AM
BTW - We need VAR in snooker these days for decisions like that yellow that Carter missed.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2020, 10:19:34 AM
I thought the Higgins Cater match was great viewing, but then I think there's much more drama in a scrappy match than there is in a one visit per frame match.

Yes, not enjoyed a match so much in a very long time, I watched every second of it. As it happens I run a daily sports results competition every day Next Door & the Carter Higgins match was the subject last night, so it all worked out rather well despite the fact I don't generally enjoy watching Higgins. We are doing Kyren Wilson v Stu Bingham tonight, if that's half as good I'll be happy. 


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2020, 10:20:17 AM
BTW - We need VAR in snooker these days for decisions like that yellow that Carter missed.

I was a little surprised at that, I'm fairly sure he never hit the yellow.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2020, 10:22:26 AM

For those that missed it, here's the "incident" with the yellow.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/snooker/51144291


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 17, 2020, 11:06:48 AM
He clearly missed the yellow ball here and it seems like he cheated - only he knows whether it was deliberate..

https://twitter.com/Paul93Aird/status/1217951654663917568


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 17, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
I like Ali despite his prickly exterior.

I think he thought he hit it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 17, 2020, 12:02:17 PM
Come on the Denmark.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2020, 12:03:32 PM
I like Ali despite his prickly exterior.

I think he thought he hit it.

Yes, I genuinely think he thought he hit it. With cameras everywhere, it'd be pretty dumb to claim he hit it if he did not think he did.

I'm a big fan of him needless to say. First he had testicular cancer, which he beat, then lung cancer, ditto, & he's a permanent sufferer with Crohn's Disease.

Fair to say he's seen a few challenges along the road.



(http://i.imgur.com/dMij7JO.jpg) (https://imgur.com/dMij7JO)


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 17, 2020, 01:10:25 PM
Yay! Hazel is back.


"Hazel Irvine is that good that she can ask the questions and answer them herself"

John Parrott


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 17, 2020, 01:52:22 PM
"WHERE'S THE CUE BALL GOING?"

Er, about a foot away from the pocket John.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 17, 2020, 03:12:59 PM
The Giblet looks to be a much improved player to me with a beautiful cue-action to boot.

I have consequently had a dabble on him for the Worlds @45/1 ew.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 17, 2020, 03:21:10 PM
Tikayesque instabok


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on January 17, 2020, 04:32:25 PM
Maguire is a horrible human being.  That interview just sums him up.   How he has never been caught or found out for match fixing over nearly 20 years is incredible.   Not saying this game was bent but he showed today yet again his total lack of respect for his profession in that interview.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 17, 2020, 05:27:51 PM
Maguire is a horrible human being.  That interview just sums him up.   How he has never been caught or found out for match fixing over nearly 20 years is incredible.   Not saying this game was bent but he showed today yet again his total lack of respect for his profession in that interview.



Forgive me for asking the obvious arby, but if he has never been caught or found out for match fixing over nearly 20 years, how do you know about it?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on January 17, 2020, 05:40:45 PM
Maguire is a horrible human being.  That interview just sums him up.   How he has never been caught or found out for match fixing over nearly 20 years is incredible.   Not saying this game was bent but he showed today yet again his total lack of respect for his profession in that interview.



Forgive me for asking the obvious arby, but if he has never been caught or found out for match fixing over nearly 20 years, how do you know about it?

I watched him live in the malta cup in the front row in 2008 try to lose to Tony Drago (local legend and wildcard)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Malta_Cup

Round robin dodgy as fuck non ranking event in those days.   Built for corrupt match fixers.   Drago hadn't played snooker properly for years and wass on the pool circuit.   Maguire had clearly laid himself at 1/3 and did everything possible to lose the match.   He just didn't factor in how bad Drago was (or drago had backed maguire himself) Drago literally missed 6 blacks off the spot in one frame he was that bad.   Maguire was forced to eventually turn it in and win 4-2 to save his rep.   He had been drinking til 6am in the same bar as me and several other betting types the night before the game as well.   To say he was pissed and didn't give a fuck was an understatement.  It was the only time in 20 years in the betting industry where i watched a game and thought both players were trying to throw the game it was that obvious and bad.

Unsurprisingly the straightest guy in the game Shaun murphy won the event as he was probably one of the few who was too naive to realise what was going on around him.  

There are numerous other episodes (and associates of his in the game) but i witnessed this first hand (there were about 50 others in the crowd) and it was shocking.  You can just tell by looking at him, his attitude and his arrogance he is a total entitled wrong un.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: RED-DOG on January 18, 2020, 05:17:41 PM
Go on the Denmark.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Karabiner on January 18, 2020, 07:27:33 PM
Go on the giblet 0-1 down and I'm on @2.52


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 19, 2020, 01:50:16 PM
£250,000 to the winner, £100,000 to the runner-up.

That's serious money to both of these lads.

Is a bit of business ever done in these things? Say, £160,000 each with the winner getting the extra £30,000, or even a straight chop?

It would have to be a bit under the radar, obv, pretty sure Barry & Co would not approve, but it must be a temptation for the lads who are maybe a shade below the vey best.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: arbboy on January 19, 2020, 01:52:06 PM

£250,000 to the winner, £100,000 to the runner-up.

That's serious money to both if these lads.

Is a bit of business ever done in these things? Say, £160,000 each with the winner getting the extra £30,000, or even a straight chop?

It would have to be a bit under the radar, obv, but it must be a temptation for the lads who are a shade below the vey best.

How can you do it with the tax man issue?  You won for £250k and the tax man wants his 45% of that don't think he would buy 'business being done' .   Not sure how they can get round it.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: tikay on January 19, 2020, 01:53:10 PM

£250,000 to the winner, £100,000 to the runner-up.

That's serious money to both if these lads.

Is a bit of business ever done in these things? Say, £160,000 each with the winner getting the extra £30,000, or even a straight chop?

It would have to be a bit under the radar, obv, but it must be a temptation for the lads who are a shade below the vey best.

How can you do it with the tax man issue?  You won for £250k and the tax man wants his 45% of that don't think he would buy 'business being done' .   Not sure how they can get round it.

Yeah, fair point.


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: DungBeetle on January 19, 2020, 02:10:48 PM

£250,000 to the winner, £100,000 to the runner-up.

That's serious money to both if these lads.

Is a bit of business ever done in these things? Say, £160,000 each with the winner getting the extra £30,000, or even a straight chop?

It would have to be a bit under the radar, obv, but it must be a temptation for the lads who are a shade below the vey best.

How can you do it with the tax man issue?  You won for £250k and the tax man wants his 45% of that don't think he would buy 'business being done' .   Not sure how they can get round it.

Just agree that winner transfers £42,250?


Title: Re: Give me a break
Post by: Woodsey on January 19, 2020, 08:53:45 PM
 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/snooker/51169569